Adam Sandler on favorite SNL moments, Casting Travis in Happy Gilmore 2 and What ‘The Waterboy’ is Doing Now | EP 125

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Everybody always tells you. I know it.
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welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen. Hey! We are a Wondry show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment.
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I am Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio.
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And follow the show on all social media, at New Heights Show with one S. Got an incredible guest coming on this episode.
And you're going to find out who it is. There's clues on the screen right now.
You probably already know. I mean, you probably got a little little they'll probably ruin the surprise because it helps people tune in and watch it and we need to advertise it i mean this is right up there can't ruin this episode though i've met this person once i met we should just say his name because it's gonna be no i met this person one time and let me tell you i have not been starstruck by many people i did i was kind of like i am now i didn't know what to say like i was just at a loss of words and i'm like just don't quote every movie he's ever been in because that's what every dummy doo-doo head does but i think i proceeded to probably do that if it's a good one you gotta just be tasteful with it if you're gonna do it yeah it's gonna be you got to just be tasteful with it if you're going to do it.
Yeah. It's going to be perfect timing and great delivery.
You got to deliver it if you're going to do it. Oh, you guys are in for a treat.
I mean, we're in for a treat, too. It's cool to even have this guy on.
All righty. Our guest today is an absolute legend.
You may know him from his film and TV career spanning over three decades. He's written and starred in some of the most iconic movies of all time, including Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore, The Waterboy, and so many more.
He's a one-time winner of the Mark Twain Prize for American Humor. 16-time MTV Movie Award nominee.
He's got Teen Choice Awards, People Choice Awards, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. He's a fan of high quality h2o jesus you have a to to today junior spit it out that's right our guest is the one and only sandman adam sandler boys i'm so happy to see both you guys love you both you know that you know that thank you so much for coming

on adam this is incredible iconic man you too fellas yes yes come on jason hit me so you so you recently just finished a stand-up special yes yes that's gonna be launching on i think that tuesday yes yes yes it comes out on tuesday i did i was doing a tour running around for like a couple of years, you know, in and out.

I kind of do it like I go away for a couple of weeks, then I go back home for a month or two, then I go do another couple of weeks, that kind of thing. Yeah.
And when I was out on the tour, I was like, oh, man, I probably should make a special just so I – because I know one day I'm going to throw this material out and move on to some new stuff, so might as well document it. And so I said, let me do a special.
Netflix said that sounds good. And then I called Josh Safdie, who's this great director, and he did Uncut Gems.
Him and his brother, Benny, did Uncut G gems. And I said to Josh, would you want to maybe direct a comedy special?

And he said, yeah, yeah.

And I thought we were just going to shoot a normal special.

But he just kind of took over and made it a different style and different feel and threw weird stuff at me.

And it's a special, but it's kind of like a movie special.

It's different.

It's a little different, yeah.

I cannot wait for everybody to see this, man. They let us preview it.
And that was alone. The coolest thing ever.
Oh, yeah. It was awesome, brother.
So thank you, bud. What you're right.
It is different. And it's like kind of segmented.
There's a whole like thing going back and forth with the projection and all that. What how do you how do you even get to like creating something like that? Like I know that like stand up, you're bringing on jokes and you're trying to figure out your routine, but that thing was so unique.
How did that whole process come about? Well, I was kind of ready to just do a normal stand-up special. I was excited because I was kind of locked in.
When you do stand-up and you're on the road, it evolves. You get better and better at your act and figure out better things to talk about, figure out better ways to tell your your thoughts or your jokes or whatever the hell it is.
And so I was kind of locked into a certain way that that I was ready to ready to, you know, throw down. And and then he's he Josh was just kind of like, you know, we've seen seen you do a standup special already.
I did one like six years ago. So he said, let's try to come up with a new way to present it.
So that's kind of what happened. What made you want to get back into the stand-up realm? Like, you took a long hiatus from it.
Not too long. I saw 100% Fresh live, actually.
I was at the Hayworth out there in L.A., dude. That's right, buddy.
I but i remember seeing you i was so fuck i was in a whole nother world and uh i got i remember two just off the top that i still remember there's a phone wall of keys yes yes i fucking sing that every single time i walk out of the goddamn door oh i love that i haven't forgotten since love that and then And then I want then uh i want to grow old with you dude yes i sang that too yes yes i sang that for the special and that was six years ago yeah yeah yeah that is buddy that was six years ago when i saw you that was so fucking cool man i saw you at the uh at the in my in the dressing room back there at the hayworth you're the fucking man dude you too it was, I don't even know why I started. Oh, yeah, here's what happened.
I was doing movies. Life was going good.
I did Saturday Night Live, and me and my friends, Spade and Schneider and Rock, we used to run around and do stand-up back then. So cool.
And it was great. And then all of a sudden, I was doing a lot of movies.
And it just became like your schedule was kind of overwhelmed. And so I stopped doing stand-up for maybe 20 years or so.
Sheesh. And then I was doing grown-ups.
And all I heard was Kevin James and Chris Rock and Schneider and Spade and Colin Quinn and all the guys in the movie and Norm Macdonald all talking about their gigs they had that weekend. And I was like, I was a little jealous, like, oh man, maybe I should get back on the road.
So that, that got me into it again. That's awesome.
That's awesome. Well, uh, make sure everyone you check out.
Love you. It's streaming now on Netflix.
Uh, wonderful jokes. It's a very unique, as we've talked about comedy standup special special, including a wonderful ode to comedy, which, man, if this world needs comedy more than ever, it was just beautifully done.
Really well done.

Thank you, man. Yeah, we wrote it, wrote a song that kind of just talked about all the all the movies and comedians that influenced me and my my my friends growing up and our generation and that kind of stuff and what we used to sit and watch growing up with our parents or with our buddies or whatever it was.
And so wrote a song and that puts a lot of that stuff in there. It's got music.
It's got a flamenco guitar that starts off with right away. I'm like, man, he's bringing it right off the bat.
That's right. I did my best.
By the way, that was terrifying because I knew sometimes when I'm alone in my room playing my guitar, I go, man, I think I could have been a guitar player. I'm pretty damn good.
Then when I get on stage, I start getting my fingers get tight. Everything's nerve wracking.
So when I was shooting a special, I was like, come on, man, let's get this thing right. But I did all right.
I did all right. You nailed it.
You nailed it. Thank you.
And then the Bluetooth comment hit a little bit too close to home for me. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That happens on occasion.
That happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't like those times. All right.
Let's talk about Happy Gilmore 2 because you got that coming up. You just said you're moving to Jersey here coming up.
Yes. That's what you're going there for, right? The whole thing was to get to hang out with Travis.
That's why we put it together. No, yeah, yeah.
We're going there. Travis, by the way, thank you.
I heard you talking about it on your show, you guys. And then, of course, I was like, you know, I was thinking of we were talking about you playing my son while we were writing it literally like six months ago.
We were like, imagine if Travis was my first my first baby. How funny that would be.
Just a badass. But we know I think I got the swing down.
You do. I think I got the swing down.
Can you crack it like that? I was out there the other day, and it was literally the day after you went on Fallon and told everybody.

And I was like, man, you know what?

I just got to do a ceremonial one.

And I fucking ripped it.

You did.

It felt so good, dude.

You banged it.

It felt so good.

What a feeling.

When you look up and that thing's going straight, you're like, that works, man.

How did that happen?

It's just the feeling. Oh, I bet you ripped the shit out of you.
What do you hit him when you play? You bang it. You bang it long, don't you? Yeah, I can hit it about 320 consistently off the drive.
Son of a bitch. But I could be three holes over or right next to the hole.
It's either way. No, but I've seen you swing.
It is nice. It's fun.
I got to say, when I'm doing the Happy Gilmore swing, I'm maybe one for four with that.

One for four.

It's not a thing of you.

A little TV magic on the back end.

It is definitely.

I call my own cuts.

All right, let's see.

Oh, here we go.

All right, buddy.

Oh, that's a long walk up.

Boom!

You can hear Pat Mahomes in the background telling you where it went. Pat's got a good swing, too.
He can bang him, too. I'm sure you guys have fun golfing up.
He's a way better player than I am. He takes it way more serious.
I'm just out there for the fun, man. Yeah, well, you're a fun man.
Everybody on this little hang here besides me seems like they have fun on the course. I get a little snappy out there.
A little frustrated. Have you gotten back into playing at all just to kind of get ready for the movie? Did you take time off from playing golf? Yes, sort of similar to my comedy career.
I kind of dipped out for a while, and then I was like, what am I doing, man? Let me get back into golf. And I absolutely, I played when I was a kid.
I played when I was like 12. And my dad was awesome.
My dad was a really good golfer. He's shooting a low 70s.
I still can't do it. I can't get it there.
Holy cow. I can't get down low.
I've had a good nine. I had a good nine maybe two weeks ago at Riviera.

I think

I could say...

That's where they play the Genesis Open. That's a legit course.

That's a tough one. I mean, I played from the whites, but

I shot okay.

But I can't put 18 together.

I can't do it. I can't concentrate that long.

Are you guys good with 18?

I suck.

I have a very little attention span. I'm not going to last in the Tahoe golf outing.
Oh, yeah, but it was not good. Didn't break 90 one time.
I hear you. That's kind of my spot to around 88 or something.
I'm good probably playing 18. When it gets to like 18 three days in a row, I am just cooked, man.
I am cooked, and my swing is all over the place. I'm not made for three days of golf in a row.
That's a lot of thinking. That's a lot of thinking.
I can't stay still for that long. Right around hole six, I start going, what the hell am I doing here? What happened to my life? Do they have burgers on the turn? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Once I eat. That's so funny.
When I grew up, my dad, we used to play at this one place, and I think it was Hole 13. They used to put out Polish sausages and hot dogs and stuff like that.
And every time I ate there, my father would go, oh, there it goes, game over. He's going to stink now.
I'd be like, no, no, no. And I would just eat too much and just get in a little coma and be staring at my father and be going, why did you eat that, you moron? I was about to say, you inspired an entire generation to get on the golf course, man.
I promise you, you did. I was one of the kids.
We used to go up to the public course all the time and just wanted to absolutely hammer them and hit them with the happy Gilmore swing and everything. That's so great.
And we were hockey players growing up. So the movie.
It hit that... It hit extra hard.
It hit so hard, man. I know both you guys remind me of my friends so much growing up.
If you met my friends, you actually saw a few at the U2 show, right? That was awesome, man. Oh, how cool was that concert? That was incredible.
What a night. But it was more fun seeing you there, buddy.
We love seeing you. No, that was like, I was telling Trav, I've told him before, I told him, I reminded him again today, I have not been starstruck like much of my life.
And seeing all of you guys next to me, like the entire ensemble, especially you, it was like, man, what the, where the fuck am I at right now? That was cool, man. man i was like i came here to watch you two and i saw every person that like i ever looked up to like and like all of the best shows all the best movies like it was so cool it was awesome thank you man well we love seeing you too but we talked about you flying home that night anyways that was It was fun time but you both you boys remind me of exact dudes i hung out out with growing up and you you two guys the guys they would protect me i was a little bit of a wise guy and uh and i had a couple boys like you always around making sure i didn't get beat up too much was it jason speaking of uh kind of like being room where you're like, how the fuck did I get here? Was there ever a moment like that early on for you where you're just like, how did it happen so fast? How did I get here? Yes.
What is this? Yes. Yes.
I don't remember anything. Saturday Night Live, that kind of did it to you.
Every week you'd meet superstars that you grew up with, Dan Aykroyd, like all the original SNL cast. We got to meet so many of those cast members.
And then just comedians we all loved growing up. Then rock stars, we got to meet Paul McCartney and Bruce Springsteen.
Everybody we talked about, all of a sudden we were in the room shooting the shit with them. It was incredible.
awesome man before before we get off uh happy gilmore though i was i'm actually curious i'm not familiar with how the original like thought process of the movie came came about oh okay yeah and i'm a little i'm pretty curious like out like was it just you just messing around on a on course and kind of connecting the dots or what?

It was my dad.

Like I said, he liked golf.

We used to go to the driving range a lot. And I had a great friend, Kyle McDonough, who ended up playing pro hockey.

He's a great hockey player.

In New Hampshire, it's a big hockey town.

Oh, yeah.

Hell, yeah.

Yeah.

So Kyle came out with me and my dad, and he didn't play much golf, but he was banging them. We were young, maybe ninth grade or something like that, and he was banging them.
My father kept saying, man, you hockey players, there's something about your wrist or the way you turn or something like that. And I just was like, I think I was in college or finishing up college or just maybe 23.
And I thought, man, man, that'd be pretty funny to see a guy with a hockey mentality have such a big hit that he gets up, gets on the tour. And I remember calling my dad and telling my dad about it and going, what do you think? And he was like, it could be pretty good.
We'll see. We'll see.
We'll see. But me and my buddy Herlihy, who I write all the movies with, we would write that and we'd call my dad and say, does this make sense? And golf, when you putt, what do you think? And it's all in the hips and stuff like that.
That was my dad. I would say, what is it? He said, it's all in the hips, baby.
It's all in the hips. And's why we wrote that shit.
Chubbs. Chubbs, yeah.
What's in store with the sequel? Without giving away too much, obviously, but what are we looking for here? Well, first of all, Travis, we're going to have fun, because the scene you're doing is with so many great golfers. It's going to be amazing.
You're going to be funny as hell. Oh, yeah.
The movie itself, it just picks up from an older guy who's, you know, played golf a long time. Some stuff goes on in his life.
He's a little – he's different. He's a bit of a mess when you meet Happy.
And then we kind of try to get his life cooking again. Wonderful.
I love it, man. I think it's cool.
It's going to be – I mean, we're trying to make you laugh the whole time, but it's got a cool vibe to it. If you're doing it, it's going to be fucking great.
You're on Fallon letting everybody know that you've been waiting for the right storyline. You've been waiting to feel the moment of it and to do it right.
Yes, yes, yes. We got all the trust in the world.
You're going to bring Happy back and make them lovable again. Thank you, bro.
Thank you. I love you.
I don't want anyone to get let down. So you got that in the back of your head.
You just want to make it as good as you're capable. Me and my pal, I mean, we were just in the room.
We just sit every line we're going. Are we sure? Are we sure about this one? All right, this is good.
We're just examining everything. We just want it to be as cool as possible.
The original got me on the golf course and also got me in the batting cages doing shit I probably shouldn't be doing. But toughening it up.
You did that? Just toughen it up. See, man, I knew you could handle that shit.
I'd run from anything going on. How fast of a ball was hitting you? It's like 50-60.
It was crazy, man. I was the guy in Little League when I got hit by a pitch.
I just rolled in the chalk for a fucking 45 minutes. Oh! Oh, yeah.
You got to wear it. You got to wear it.
Don't rub. Don't rub it.
That's funny. Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, boys, did you play Little League baseball, too? Oh, hell yeah. Everything, man.
Everything sports-related. It was like the backyard was like a sports complex.
The best. We would go up and get all the used equipment from Play It Again Sports.
And my dad would get like everything for like $20. And he would just get the equipment, put it in our hands and let us have some fun with it, man.
And so every day was getting home from school just so you could play sports, right? Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
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Let's get to a little, a little, some more familiar questions here.

In case you aren't aware, Jason and I are not professional interviewers.

I don't even know how to be a professional outside of football.

We're just two big fans with a lot of fucking questions for you, man.

As football players, we got to lead with this.

How many football guys come up to you and talk about the Waterboy, man? I hear Boucher a lot. Yeah.
I'm very proud that I got to be Bobby Boucher. I have met a lot of great NFL fellas who have talked to me about Bobby and Bobby's mama and foosball.
Just foosball. Just foosball, baby.
Making sure mama don't find out. I'm playing foosball, that kind of shit.
Did you play growing up? I played Pop Warner until 12. I played until 12.
I was a quarterback in Pop Warner. I was playing baseball, and then I was a pitcher, and 11 and Ken Ken Stillman the coach of the the team came over and talked to my parents and said maybe Adam could be a quarterback and my mother was like oh Adam doesn't play football and my father was like let him play because my father played football actually.
Okay. He was a linebacker.
Oh yeah. So then I got in there.
I got on the team, played two years at Pop Warner, and it was amazing. So cool, man.
So freaking cool. Do you play any other sports? You play football, baseball? Baseball was my favorite.
Basketball, I always played. Every sport.
When I was young, I was decent. Then everybody got big and way stronger than me, so I became less and less of you didn't notice me.
Like when I played Babe Ruth baseball, I went from being – I was on the all-star team in Little League to, like, I think Adam's on that team. I don't know.
You know, I was batting sixth. I went from batting second or third to batting sixth and seventh and maybe deeper.
The older I got, the worse I got well but you're still on the courts man i was about to say yes yes you're you're your skills on the court are iconic because you're just a facilitator you just see the court you see things before they happen remind me of a guy like patty mahomes and how his game is on the court. Sweet behind the backer.
That behind the backer.

I have dreams of throwing that to you, buddy.

Backdoor bounce passes. Oh, yeah.

I'm all backdoor. That's all I ever

talk to. Because when I play, I always

play with young dudes.

And I always,

if they're not moving, I always like whisper

them. I go, you got to move, bro.

You got to stay on the move. You got to go.

Let it go. I'll fake up high.
Just cut down. You got to move, though i ain't gonna shoot i gotta get it to you just a natural leader baby yeah i love it man it's so fun watching you uh and all those highlights man oh man you guys must have been fun on a basketball court grabbing rebounds jason used to beat my ass literally not even in one i would win the game but i would it would be a brutal ass beating.
And I would just get thrown on the cement. I used to beat my ass, literally.
One-on-one? I would win the game, but it would be a brutal ass beating. And I would just get thrown on the cement the entire time.
I used to win until you hit puberty, I would whoop your ass. But then there was one day.
It was the last time we ever got in a fist fight. Oh, yeah.
He freaking is just driving the lane, and he's finally as tall as I am, doing this stupid fucking hook shot. I had a mean hook shot.
And I can't stop it. It was so buttery.
It was so buttery. I had a right hand and a left.
So I start fouling and just beating the crap out of them. But, yeah, it's – yeah, I can play defense.
I can play some defense now. But there is minimal offense being – I'll set picks.
I will pick and rebound all day long. That I see.
That I know. That's cool.
Yeah, you boys on the court must have been scary for the whole neighborhood you told us about how uh happy gilmore got how does how did you create a creole southern uh so good like where did this inspiration i'm not sure if you heard us we were literally like i don't know how he didn't win more awards for this this was ridiculously This before i had seen life is beautiful roberto benigni did a great job with that he did very good yeah yeah no i wasn't getting oscars i never thought of that stuff when i was doing a boucher but but i was i couldn't It was like, we had this idea, a water boy gets picked on a lot. A coach thinks he could be, sees him throw a nasty hit and then says, maybe you should be on the team.
That was kind of the idea. And we were like, let's make him from the South.
Let's make him Cajun. And then we just went from there, man.
I don't know how it happened. We just filled out a script like that.
So good. So good.
It probably felt right as it came together, too. You're just like, man, this is coming together so smooth.
Because start to finish, that thing is perfect. Oh, dude.
I mean, we were so excited writing that. Thanks for all these compliments, guys.
Honestly, I love you. I appreciate it.
So I remember with The Waterboy, we wanted that he had a very protective mama. And there was this movie, Carrie.
It was a terrifying movie. And it was an overprotective mom who didn't want her daughter to to be around anything too um too heavy and and anyways so we kind of wrote a mom like that that's overprotective to bobby and and so he had to sneak around and play his foosball and shit the breath of which like you did snl the comedy era that you were a part of was just so strong it almost makes it unfair for for modern day comedy man well i mean i i i watch these young guys down there and correct i love so many young comedians i i really do in the saturday night live cast after ours in the beginning when you first leave when you and you see the next cast, you're like, hey, what about us? We would this and that.
But the older I got, I'd watch every cast. I'd be like, fuck, these guys are incredible.
And the men and women on the show and the way they handle themselves. I was like, oh, shit, man.
I wish I had another crack at that because I'd do better next time. I like these guys.
Anyways, it was lucky. Lucky.
Our era, we were all best friends, me and my buddies, just like you guys are with your teammates. And now we get to watch the youth be funny.
Do you have any skit? What was your favorite sketch or the one that you think is the most underrated from your time in SNL? I mean, honestly, fellas, you know, you guys both did the show. You guys were great.
I saw you that fucking weekend. Travis, when you came back, I was telling you how fucking great.
I mean, you were so cool, confident as fuck out there, funny as shit. You guys, honestly, you guys remind me so much of my boys growing up.
That's why when I saw you on the i was like fuck it would be like if my friend dave can air hosted the show he's just kind of like cool fucking dudes who know that know everything no comedy no sports no everything know how to be decent to their uh families i i i fucking loved watching you out there just channeling my inner sandman and farley baby there Yes. Oh, my God.
You would have loved Farley. He would have loved you guys, man.
Farley was a fucking great football player, by the way. Heck yeah.
Heck yeah. A little Marquette rugby, too, baby.
Exactly. And ready to fight, by the way.
A couple of drinks in, he was ready to go. He was ready to throw down.
For sure. It was honestly kind of like when he had a couple in them, we were like, calm the fuck down, bro.
Let's not do this. No one else can fight like you.
So good, man. I like it as soles.
Yes. That was one of my favorite ones, dude.
Oh, you like the juice, man. The juice is good, yeah.
That was good. That was this guy, Robert Smigel, who's one of the fucking greatest of all time.
He's a great writer and a great performer. He plays Triumph, the dog, you know, the insult guy.
Heck yeah. That dude, he wrote so many great skits.
So cool. And he wrote the juice skit.
And we got to walk around and go, you like it? Yeah, you like it? That's good. You knew it smoother than me, bud.
It's so good, man. I forgot how to drop it in there.
It's the best, man. How many times do you get quotes told? It's got to be just nonstop.
We get it a lot on the streets. On the streets of New York, they scream some shit at me.
Does it get old? No, no. It's always fucking fun.
It's always nice shit when it comes at you. There fuck I was there were things brought up to me that I go what the fuck is that I have no idea what it is anymore and then somebody would just remind me when you you know it's on your album when you said this and this and I go fuck I don't remember saying any of that shit actually last night my daughter is watching uh uh 51st Dates and she's like dad come watch i go i don't need to watch me and she's like watch this look how sweet you are i go and then i told her i go i gotta be honest with you i remember drew saying all that stuff i don't remember me even talking like it's like i look back at the shit i don't even i don't even fucking remember scene to scene i'm like oh oh we did that i didn't remember that place i'm getting old boys have you uh have you been someone that like you you like to watch everything that you have or i mean i'm sure nowadays you're just you're so engulfed in you're in the edit and like directing it and everything right yes yes yes i've done that so long now that once we're done and the movie comes out i kind of i probably don't watch it uh for a few years i'll if it's on tv i'll see it for a minute but that's usually it we we you you stay with shit for like a year you go all right i don't need to fucking see that anymore yeah i i couldn't i can't really watch anything that i do when it's when it's being recorded but i have so much goddamn fun doing stuff like SNL and just like the comedy stuff that I don't need to watch it.
I was so fulfilled doing it. That energy, yeah.
Yeah, the energy is just so fulfilling that I don't want to ruin it by critiquing myself. I know, I know.
You definitely, you can look at your shit after and go, oh, I thought better than that what the fuck was i doing there i got a lot of that believe me i got shit from when i was young that my kids show me i go i don't i don't want to know that fucking exists holy shit that was insane i watched the monologue because that was a moment that i wanted to remember forever and like i'd like i just being on that fucking stage was the cool behind being behind that door and being on that stage and being in that studio was just so iconic and you fucking walked out like so relaxed man how about being behind that fucking door dude and you should and your heart's pounding through your chest like holy shit it's happening right yeah and don't you, Travis, don't fall down these fucking steps. Do not fall down these steps.
You are alive, dude. You are alive.
And your brother was there to help you, too. That was nice.
I was about to say, you should have seen him in the first rehearsal. I was there the day before watching him kind of get ready.
And he comes out that door. And he, like, starts choking up.
And I'm like, there's nobody here. This ain't live.
Like, what are we choking up for? and he comes out that door and he like starts choking up and i'm like there's nobody here this ain't live like what are we choking up for and he's saying exactly coming like standing behind that door yeah seeing the signatures all of that like fully hit him and it's just like such a moment so totally that jason's been beating my ass off my whole life so i'm a crybaby anyways i just i get really really i'm engulfed and in when i'm when i'm in on something i'm so fucking in on it and it just took it over man yeah it just took me over it it yeah get you teary-eyed i had some of that i hosted this show again like around six years ago and um same kind of feel i'd walk around on a thursday two days before the fucking shit the show and then i was getting teary-eyed and looking and so many memories and so many greats that have been there and musical acts and fucking you just think of when you were a little kid and all the shit all the joy that place has brought you it's it's the best man yeah you're in there forever now both you guys got to kill on that shit i love it man you more than anybody i've ever watched has like it's not that you stayed the same like i know you've evolved but you've been so authentic in everything you've done like from from snl to the movies the stand-up the one that just came out like between what you wear the people involved in it like it's all just so authentically how have you i don't know has this been like how do you do that same way as you guys would i do in your lives same shit you feel comfortable with certain people yeah the same wavelength you're on what makes you guys happy what what makes you click like you with with teammates or just fucking you know off season the guys you hang out with that's kind of like what i got with my buddies when we make the movies and we sit in a room and write the shit and have a similar sensibility. So I guess that's why we all do it together.
Were you a Belushi, an Aykroyd? Yes. Like going into it, did you have like the guys where you were like, man, if I could just somehow be as funny as that guy? Well, I'll tell you, you never fucking think you're as good as the cast before you yeah so like yes belushi ackroyd ackroyd i mean he became like a a guy that we hung out with we got to hey i loved him so much but and he treated us so great so awesome it's kind of like fucking uh andy reed just you have this respect for the fucking guy and what he's seen uh-huh and when he talks to you kind of go yes yes yes yes you feel like you're getting knowledge all the time and fucking uh uh the the cast mates before you feel the same shit you're just like whatever they say there's there's no no reason for me to talk unless they ask me to talk and that's about it i know that feeling got that with dana carvey got that with all the guys dennis miller all the guys who were older than us and uh and um jan hooks and victoria jackson and the whole cast that was there before us john loves we just fucking kevin neel and all those guys they whatever they had to say we will we

will love it just a sponge man yes exactly exactly so you gotta be i'm a girl dad my oldest is four so i got a ways to go yes one do you have any advice and two when should i i mean they've seen some of your stuff but when should i really start exposing them to the sandman that's good man i I think at that age, yeah, there's no rush.

Okay.

All right.

No rush to get to me.

My – When should I really start exposing them to the Sandman? That's good, man. I think at that age, yeah, there's no rush.

Okay.

All right.

No rush to get to me.

I got some animated movies that I feel kind of comfortable telling somebody,

yeah, maybe you can watch Hotel Transylvania or Leo or something like that.

I go, yeah, you'll feel all right there.

But I got to tell you, I have fucking three-year-olds come up to me and talk about Billy Madison. They do say, are you Billy Madison? I say, yes.
They go, well, why do you not look like him anymore? I go, well, Billy Madison's been fucking eating. He's a little hungry lately.
But it'll all happen. My own kids, I don't throw my stuff at them too quick.
It just happens. They haven't seen a few of the filthy ones yet, and let's hope that they don't need to see that stuff.
That's pretty good. Yeah, well, I actually saw you take the girls to the Taylor Swift premiere at the AMC Theaters.
By the way, what a girl. What a girl.
What a, man. What a, I mean.
You know, best performer out here. Dude, she means so much to our house.
Since the kids, I think I was shooting, like, Grown Ups, or That's My Boy, or something in Massachusetts. And we listened to, and the kids were little, and we were listening to Taylor Swift and listening to every song.
It was one of the first times that you listened to every song on the record. Like when I was a kid, I think the Beatles you did that with, maybe Elton John, where you do every tune.
Oh, yeah. Start to finish.
You know when we start to finish, it's not like three hits and you go, all right, let me skip. Fucking Taylor in our house, every tune.
They knew every word. I loved listening to her in the car.
I loved what she had to say. Every message, every melody, just the production, how cool she was, what she meant to young girls, what she means to women, what she means to guys doing the right thing in life.
Throughout the years, Saturday Night Live the kids there took her time hung out with them and then at her uh at her premiere for the movie she talked to the kids to talk to them about their movie you know they did this bat mitzvah movie and she talked about what she liked in it and she just floors my family so cool man floors them like i i said somebody asked me who do you get nervous around i said i do get nervous around taylor swift because i don't want to fucking blow it for my kids and say something stupid so i'm just like shit she means so much to my fucking house i better say the right thing here oh my gosh she was so grateful that you uh you took the girls up there ben you said it was absolute blast she's lifetime forever along with the whole world she just means means so much i appreciate that brother and you being together and you being you guys you're i mean that first when you guys first started dating my guy was my family like yes look how good they are together he's a gentleman and she's having so much fun with it. Like, anytime Taylor's laughing with you, my whole fucking family is like high-fiving.
So good, man. You got to be sweating over here.
We got to see that dog behind you, dude. Come here, baby.
Say hi to the boy. Did you just say that dog's name is Bagel? Yeah, Bagel is.
That's such a good name. That is such a good name.
I've had a bunch of bulldogs over the years. I've had a meatball, matzo ball, pickles, and this is a babu, and here's a bagel.
But bagels are going to me now. Come here, buddy.
What the fuck? You want me to pick you up? Come here, buddy. Say hi.
Oh, God. I'm so pumped to see you.
Let's call you. There he is.
Oh, yeah, baby. There he is.
All right. Oh, is.
Oh, yeah. There he is.

All right.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

We had to see him, man.

The Georgia Bulldog.

Yeah, he's been doing it.

Exactly.

The Georgia Bulldog.

I don't know how he can handle that heat.

Yeah, dude.

They don't like the heat, man.

I know.

Every time he's out there, my good Lord.

He is not in his element right now.

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You worked with a lot of athletes in the in the past. You worked with Shaq, Michael Irvin, Kevin Garnett recently, and Anthony Edwards recently.

All great. Do you feel

like there's

an avenue of athletes

being comfortable on the screen?

Has anybody

bombed it, basically, is what I'm asking.

No.

I mean, I'm sure... No names.

No names. No, I don't got anybody

who left that I went,

oh, what happened there, man?

None of that shit, man. I love

I'm not going to names. No names.
No, I don't got anybody who left that I went, oh, what happened there, man? None of that shit, man. I love them all.
They all come and have fun. We make sure whoever's doing it.
You guys are, like, doing us favors. I know.
I know you got a busy life, and you're coming and you've got to make my fucking movie a thousand times better. So we try to make sure anybody who comes by has a great time.
It's a memorable time and try to get them in and out as quick as possible. Don't want anybody sitting and being bored.
I've got to meet so many greats over there. You guys, you grew up I think there's some sort of connection to how fucking confident you are.
And comedy, when you're being funny, it's usually if you're confident in what you're saying and committing to something. So if you ask an athlete, it's probably going to be a little bit better if you say it like this and be strong when you say it.
Yes, sir. Let's go.
You're coachable. All you guys are coachable.
Yeah. I was about to say, got to say gotta be coachable in life baby you certainly do how do you decide uh to make the jump from comedy guy to like more of like the dramatic stuff in it throughout your career that was just was it just like a challenge that you wanted to do or was it like yeah yeah yeah it is that now it's like that now when i was younger i did a movie a long time ago called Punch Drunk Love.
And that was just luck. Luck.
I was doing my comedies. Paul Thomas Anderson, who's this amazing guy, an amazing director, he wrote this movie for me and said, give it a shot.
He believed in me. So I did it.
Nice. Had a few of those where I work with these elite directors and kind of do my best for them.

And it's different than what I do. I, you know, like Waterboy and shit like that, we have fun writing that shit and doing that shit.

And it's the best time we could ever have.

But when it comes to serious stuff, I just don't want to let down this.

Just like you guys don't want to let down the coach.

I don't want to let down the director.

So I fucking just commit as hard as I can heck yeah accountability baby exactly yeah so we uh we got to jump into your we always do a mount rushmore of of like jason did uh mount rushmore centers centers i did mount rushmore tight ends yes who is your mount rushmore of uh of well your characters characters on here yeah of your of your characters like yeah who is the mount rushmore of your characters you think yeah shit i never never thought about this it kind of changes what in which i i love some of them one day and then the next day i'm like why the fuck did i do that but all right uh, let's see. Billy Madison's always got to be up there because it was kind of the first movie

that let me

kind of have a little control.

Me and my buddies and

Tamara Davis was the director and we

kind of, we were young

and we believed in it.

So we got that done. I love Bobby

Boucher.

Shit, man. And I love being that guy love doing movies with drew barrymore and with jennifer aniston so yeah that was just i can't pick i don't know what my guys names are in those but whoever i was in those right now right i guess yeah i don't remember at all i know robbie hart was one of them but uh whatever i did with those guys i'd like to put up all right i'm with you and i don't mind uh putting little nicky up there too with there you go there you go one of my sneaky favorites seriously another one another one where you just you engulfed you just brought us all in with this yeah it's so good the sideways face oh man i remember nicholson i met i met jack nicholson before we did our movie together and he said now before we start this what what type of movie is it is it little nicky and he goes hey and i gotta go oh nicky to me that felt nice that's so cool man yeah that's so cool that's oh i'll tell you what that's probably the the most epic uh mount rushmore i've ever fucking heard oh yeah i love that dude little nicky up there was so this isn't on this this isn't on the run now but i want to who's your mount rushmore comedians like On your list.
Well, my guys when I was young. I love so many now.
Of course. It's much broader than it was, but as a kid, what fucking connected me the most Rodney Dangerfield was my number one guy.
Love Rodney, love Caddyshack, love Back to School. Back to School, yeah, Back to School.
Yeah, baby. The best.
So good. The best.
And I got to meet him and hang with him. Fucking loved him.
So cool. And shit, when I was young, I loved the Jerry Lewis, the Abbot Costello, the Marx Brothers.
I loved that stuff because I would watch that when my parents had a great time with that. Then I loved, you know, Belushi and Aykroyd was power in my house.
Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy.
That was kind of it, too. Eddie, fucking stand-ups.
Stephen Wright was a big deal to me. Cheech and Chong.
Fucking love Cheech and Chong. Yeah, baby.
Yeah, yeah. I had a million of them.
Actually, the special one, the last song, I tried to throw a lot of the people who meant something to me in there. I miss

this stuff.

There's this comedy record, Derek

and Clive. You guys ever hear of them?

It was Dudley

Moore who played

Arthur. You remember the movie Arthur, the English guy?

He drank a lot of booze, funny as shit.

He was in a comedy

duo with this guy Peter Cook

and he had these albums that

they used to curse a lot. They'd get drunk together

and be funny together and somehow

I'll see you next time. He was in a comedy duo with this guy, Peter Cook, and he had these albums that they used to curse a lot.
They'd get drunk together and be funny together. And somehow my father got it for me, and I was in like fucking sixth, seventh grade listening to that going, oh, my God, this is the best.
So they had a big influence on my cursing, I believe. We're a football podcast.
We got to get into a little bit of your your qb you already told everybody that you were kind of a pop water qb but the longest yard man yes um how much like prep in the nfl were you just out there winging it knowing that you still had the skill set or did you actually take some pointers from some guys i was scared man i by the way, fellas, when I was a QB, I dropped so many snaps. I used to – my coach used to go, would you get your hands in there? I was so – I didn't get in there.
I was terrified. As a center, you got to feel the pressure.
You got to feel the pressure. I apologize to you and everybody before you, Jim Otto, everybody.
I made a mistake. I felt so bad getting my hand on that cup.
But when I got my hands in there deep, man, it always worked out. Sean Salisbury was nice enough.
A great guy. He fucking every day would throw the ball with me, taught me how to throw it a little farther, how to be a little more confident with it.
Because when I was Pop Warner, it would be like straight T-26 on break, on set. Straight T-26 on break, ready, break.
Then I'd get out there, my little baby voice, I would throw that quarterback thing on. Hey! What the fuck are you doing? I don't know that bullshit.
I was bullshit when I did it.

I never sounded cool.

But I remember Salisbury would always yell at me like,

you got to command that team.

Get out there and fucking be a man about this.

This is so fucking good.

Sorry, Bagel.

So good.

In 97, you wrote a song called The Lonesome Kicker.

Yes.

Loved it. Would you ever write a song about any other position, or has that come up in your mind, any other sport like that, or what, man? Shit, yeah.
I mean, if something fresh comes up, for sure, man. But we did fucking have the best time.
NFL Films helped make a video with us. I got got to hang out with a bunch of Steelers Cordell Stewart, the bus.
Yeah, they were all in the video. We hung out there.
I've had a lot of dreams come true, but I met a lot of you. You dudes and I love you all.
You're the best, dude. Thank you.
Well, let's get to some no dumb questions with the Sandman himself. I'm'm ready the segment is called uh no dumb questions because there's no such thing as dumb questions adam just dumb ass people like me and jason would you uh would you mind helping us with just one baby please please make me a part of it let's do this all right from hey buck nasty whatever that may mean um out of out of all the movies that the sandman is dropping, we still want to know what's happening in Bobby Boucher and Vicky Valicourt's life.
Did Bobby ever make it to the NFL? Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, first of all, the good news is Bobby saw Vicky's boobies, and he liked them.
Loved them, actually. Loved them.
He said like, but in that moment, he loved them. him uh and he and thank you very much vicky valicor for for that um he did go to the nfl i believe uh played a couple years uh mama was just mama wanted him home so he had two good good years running around with the teams, you know,

saw some shit he probably shouldn't have seen.

Things got a little crazy on occasion for Bobby,

especially when they'd go to Vegas.

And then he made himself back to Mama and just fucking, you know,

it's better off.

It's a beautiful story.

It's a beautiful story.

We had to at least figure out what happened.

Yeah, yeah.

Thank you.

And that wraps it up with no dumb questions today.

I'm a part of something as cool as as the sandman so i appreciate you even jumping on having some fun down memory lane with us and everybody make sure you check out uh the uh the netflix specialties got coming out man appreciate that and boys on your end on your end both of you so fucking happy for everything you guys got. All you've done, congratulations, Jason.
I know you're going to have a great time announcing and doing a new start. You kicked so much ass.
The fucking speech you gave when you guys won was unbelievable. The funniest.
The best. The best.
Everyone loves you. And Travis, so fucking great watching you dominate out there and just bulldoze and soft hands and just a stud.
Always in the right spot. I don't know how the fuck you get so open.
Or when you're not open, it doesn't matter. He's going to get it to you.
You'll make shit happen. Both of you guys.
And by the way, Jason, you know the cross-eyed guy in all my movies? Yes. He's in the special.
He's in the coffee. Exactly.
The biggest fucking Eagles fan loves you. Yeah, baby.
Loves you. And when you guys fucking won, holy shit was their relief.
That fucking guy's depression. Every time the Eagles wouldn't win on a Sunday, I'd be like, Will you fucking up you've been sleeping for fucking 20 hours it's over we're on to next week but you winning the super bowl was the greatest buddy he loves you we all love you both both you guys and your family say hi to your parents and say hi to you both your families and taylor tell her we love it too you know that you're the best dude okay your time, man.
The Sandman, ladies and gentlemen. Right on, boys.
We'll keep this computer on. Don't worry.
Oh, you're the man, dude. Okay, peace.
We can't thank you enough for the time. We'll see you in a few weeks, brother.
All right, that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you so much to Adam Sandler, the Sandman, for coming on.
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