Travis on the Super Bowl Loss, Jason on Mixed Emotions and Who's Going Over a Cliff? | Ep 124

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Speaker 1 It's just life, man. This sport can humble you so fast.
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Speaker 1 That's the last thing that I care about right now.

Speaker 3 I know. The only record I get is that he kept going on the field.
He's out there again.

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Speaker 1 Yeah, man,

Speaker 1 this is going to be a very gotta do it type episode.

Speaker 1 Obviously, after the big loss,

Speaker 1 this isn't the easiest thing to do. Get on here and talk to the world, and especially our 92%ers who tune in week in, week out.
And

Speaker 1 give us your time, give us your

Speaker 1 attention, and cheer for us and root us on. And

Speaker 1 it was a weird weekend, but I appreciate you guys for all the support I've seen leading up to it and even afterwards.

Speaker 1 But Jason, before we get into everything, why don't you let the people know what we got coming up?

Speaker 3 We got a big episode, guys. We're going to recap Super Bowl 59 and talk about,

Speaker 3 yeah, what else we got down to while we were in New Orleans. As always, we're going to get you some of your no-dumb questions.

Speaker 3 But first,

Speaker 3 I guess we're just going to get right into it. I don't know if there's any new news.
All the news is over. Yeah.
So I guess we can just go.

Speaker 3 All right. All right.
Cool. Well, Eagles 40.
Chiefs 22.

Speaker 1 God damn.

Speaker 3 The three-peat

Speaker 3 did not happen, obviously. Did not happen in the Superdome.
Eagles ended up getting it done. Nick Siriani, Jalen Hurts, Trav.
I think people have been waiting to hear from you since the game Sunday.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 What do you want to say? I don't know. Where do you want to start?

Speaker 1 I mean, I already, you know, congratulated the Eagles.

Speaker 1 It was hard going into the exit interviews today.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the last time I'll see probably a lot of those guys

Speaker 1 as it'll be a bit of a turnover this year, knowing the contract situations and everything. And outside of the game,

Speaker 1 I just wanted to thank my teammates for everything they fucking do, man.

Speaker 1 The effort, the focus, the

Speaker 1 work that we put in, that wasn't the reason, you know.

Speaker 1 Honestly,

Speaker 1 going into the game, I felt as confident as I ever felt in going into a Super Bowl or a playoff game or a big game in my life. And, you know, for a bunch of reasons that just

Speaker 1 didn't happen, man. It just wasn't our day.

Speaker 1 Couldn't find a lick of momentum. I'm kicking myself for some of the tiny, tiny decisions I made on the field,

Speaker 1 trying to do something more than what I was asked to do during plays.

Speaker 1 I wasn't the best leader that I could be in motivating my guys and keeping my guys calm, cool, collected.

Speaker 1 And I put a lot of that on myself as the guy that's been in the building for 12 years and seen a lot of football and actually seeing a situation just like this in the Super Bowl,

Speaker 1 talking about the Tampa Bay Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 It's a tough pill to swallow, man. Every time we felt like, you know, we made a big play or we got something going,

Speaker 1 a penalty would happen, or we'd be going backwards. And then, on top of that, just

Speaker 1 not executing the play calls.

Speaker 1 It wasn't the play calls. It was a cumulative effort of everybody just not finding a way to get it done, man.
And

Speaker 1 to happen on the biggest stage sucks, but to have it happen for the second time in my career on the biggest stage, man, it's a tough pill to swallow. It's a hard reality, man.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 you know, I just, I love my teammates. I love my coaches, Chiefs' Kingdom.
I'm sorry for how it ended, but, you know, it's,

Speaker 1 fuck, you know, I have a beautiful life. I have a beautiful life, man.

Speaker 1 I have loved ones. I have the most amazing family in the world that supports me in everything that I do.

Speaker 1 And they were all there, you know, cheering me on and hoping for the best on Sunday, man. I just have to tip my hat to the Eagles.
They were firing on all cylinders coming out, and it just felt like

Speaker 1 we never had control over what was going on in that game.

Speaker 3 I feel like every time you guys try to get something going, it just didn't work out, right?

Speaker 3 And it was like you're close to getting a third down, get them off the field, and they either make a big play. There's a penalty.

Speaker 3 Up until even like halftime, even though the score was getting out of control, there's that big throw, the de-hop that... doesn't get caught.

Speaker 3 And even then, I'm like, all right, the Chiefs go down here. They score before half.
They get the ball coming out of half. Yeah, I just came away very much.
And I I know you guys

Speaker 3 are kicking yourselves for not playing your best game. I just, you know, the Eagles played fantastic.

Speaker 3 Everybody played their best across the board. I mean,

Speaker 3 it was a truly impressive game from Philadelphia defensively. All those guys, Vic Fangio, Jalen Hurts played very well.

Speaker 3 And that was the thing all week everybody's talking about, you know, what Spag's going to do.

Speaker 3 Is he going to try and sell out to stop Saquon Saquon and, you know, give the one-on-one matchups on the outside? And I don't know. It almost like didn't matter.

Speaker 3 I felt like it felt like Jalen was just on it and he was executing regardless of what it was. But I know this sucks to talk about for future app.
I've been here, obviously. Two years ago, I was here.

Speaker 3 It was great. But, you know, I think it was

Speaker 3 a really impressive performance. by Philadelphia, to say the least.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's going to sting. I know everybody wants to know whether whether or not I'm playing next year.
And right now, I'm just kicking everything down the road.

Speaker 1 I'm kicking every can I can down the road. And I'm not making any crazy decisions, but right now the

Speaker 1 biggest thing is just

Speaker 1 being there for my teammates and

Speaker 1 being there for my coaches, understanding, you know, that there's a lot that goes into this thing. You know, I've been fortunate over the past five, six years, I've played more football than anybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it's because the people that are in that building and

Speaker 1 the fact that we keep going to these AFC championships and these Super Bowls, and that means I'm playing an extra three games more than everybody else in the entire league.

Speaker 1 And that's a lot of wear and tear on your body. And it's a lot of time spent in the building, focusing on your craft, focusing on the task at hand, every challenge that you set up for yourself.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that process can be grueling.

Speaker 1 It can weigh on you.

Speaker 1 It can make you better and it can drive you crazy at the same time. And right now, it's one of those things where it was kind of driving me crazy this year.

Speaker 1 And I think that it happens as you kind of tail off

Speaker 1 towards the back nine of your career, as SVP would say, is,

Speaker 1 you know, it's

Speaker 1 as you see yourself or not feel yourself have the success that you once used to have, man, it's

Speaker 1 a tough pill to swallow. And then on top of that, to not be there in the biggest moments,

Speaker 1 knowing your team's counting on you, man.

Speaker 1 Those are all extremely hard things to,

Speaker 1 it's just a tough reality. And,

Speaker 1 you know, I think I'm going to take some time to figure it out. And I think I owe it to my teammates that if I do come back,

Speaker 1 that it's going to be something that

Speaker 1 it's a wholehearted decision. I'm not half-ass in it and

Speaker 1 I'm fully here for them. And

Speaker 1 I think I could play. It's just whether or not

Speaker 1 I'm motivated or it's the best decision for me as a as a pure, as a, as a man, as a human, as

Speaker 1 a person to take on all that responsibility.

Speaker 3 You're preaching to the choir, brother. It sucks when you get to this point in the career where you

Speaker 3 it becomes harder and harder to do it.

Speaker 3 And I think

Speaker 3 there's a physicality that becomes more difficult to manage.

Speaker 3 There's a mental approach that becomes more difficult to manage because a lot of times it's stocked on top of the physical discomfort and things that are happening.

Speaker 3 To do it right, you have to be committed and you have to put the time in. You have to be

Speaker 3 all in. And it's difficult to sign up for that because you know what it takes.
You've been here three years in a row. You've been to this game multiple times.
You've had an amazing amount of success.

Speaker 3 And it's frustrating when you're getting older in your career and you know that that is becoming harder and harder to do and

Speaker 3 more and more grueling to go through.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 take your time. Obviously, get away from everything for a while.

Speaker 1 The biggest thing is that, uh, you know, after the game, I still had over 50-something plus of my best friends and my family and

Speaker 1 my loved ones and everybody that has supported me throughout my life

Speaker 1 was there to, you know, at least make it not feel like the worst day of my life.

Speaker 1 An opportunity to get all those people together under one roof, be around them, you know, hug them, smile with them,

Speaker 1 find a way to, you know, get through something really, really tough. It definitely made it a little

Speaker 1 easier, but the reality is going to suck here for quite a while. It's just life, man.
It's life.

Speaker 1 This sport can humble you so fast, man. It can give you so much praise.

Speaker 1 It can shoot you to the moon, and it can bury you, man. It can absolutely bury you.
And,

Speaker 1 you know, it's just

Speaker 1 the occupation we chose. And, you know,

Speaker 1 not everything.

Speaker 1 can go as planned sometimes, even though we've been able to find a way over the past, you know, however long, but especially this year and this team,

Speaker 1 we were known for finding a way. And

Speaker 1 as much as

Speaker 1 I like to think we could have done things differently, man,

Speaker 1 it just didn't feel like at the end of it, it was meant to be. It is what it is.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, listen,

Speaker 3 it's never been done before. It's never been done before for a reason.
It's incredibly hard. It's hard to keep teams intact.
It's hard to keep,

Speaker 3 you know, you're you're having extended season. You guys have played 60 games damn near over the past three years or whatever.
And I'm not trying to make excuses. There's just a reason why

Speaker 3 it's never been done. And I think that,

Speaker 3 you know, I know you guys are frustrated right now. I know you're frustrated.
I think the reality is what you guys have done is amazing. Still.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I know that you don't want to hear that right now. And I know that that game is frustrating as a result, but

Speaker 3 that doesn't take away from

Speaker 3 the last seven times you guys have been to the AFC championship or whatever it is and five super I mean it's remarkable the journey and the run you guys have had and you and Pat and Chris and certain guys have been at the epicenter of this for that entire time and a lot of the guys on this team have been there for three this was their third time in a row I know it's frustrating to look at this one game, especially because it was such a dominating game for the Eagles, but I think that the reality is

Speaker 3 it's one of the incredible runs that's ever happened in this fucking game. And you guys have your legacies cemented on that, and nobody can take that away.

Speaker 3 I mean, people could try to talk shit, especially if they've never done anything in their lives. But

Speaker 3 that's the reality of it. There was one thing accomplished,

Speaker 3 which is Travis Kelsey set a record, a record for most catches in a career in the Super Bowl, which, Travis, that's a big record.

Speaker 1 It's not a very big record.

Speaker 3 Why do you say it's not a big record?

Speaker 1 I have a lot of Super Bowl appearances.

Speaker 3 So do a lot of people.

Speaker 1 What do they say? Records are meant to be broken.

Speaker 3 That they are.

Speaker 3 Well, you broke one. You broke the most catches in Super Bowl history, which

Speaker 3 I know that you don't probably care that much about it right now because of the way the game went. And I mean, you have so many records at this point that this is kind of like just another one.

Speaker 3 But at the end of the day, it's just another thing that cements you as one of the best players ever to play in the NFL.

Speaker 3 I know you don't care about that, but I think at the end of the day, when it's all said and done, the records mean a little bit.

Speaker 3 Because once you're done, that's kind of all you have left: the memories,

Speaker 3 the trophies, right, which obviously mean the most,

Speaker 3 and then

Speaker 3 the stuff that makes other people recognize greatness,

Speaker 3 which unfortunately there are a lot of stats, but that's kind of all we have outside of trophies and

Speaker 3 highlights.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, I'm still, that's the last thing that I care about right now.

Speaker 3 I know, but you will. So, and it's, and it's dope.
Just here to tell you, it's a fucking dope record.

Speaker 1 Thanks, brother.

Speaker 3 As are all your other records. Offensive line, the only record I get is that he kept going on the field.
He's out there again.

Speaker 3 Man,

Speaker 3 this guy really won't take a break. He's headed out to the field for another consecutive week.
How'd he do? No one knows. Just counts as the game plate.

Speaker 1 He only played the first drive.

Speaker 3 I know he had four bad snaps. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 There we go. I feel for you because losing a Super Bowl sucks.
I mean,

Speaker 3 I don't wish that on anybody.

Speaker 3 All week, no matter who won or lost, I feel like I was going to be feeling shitty and feeling more with the team that lost because I know what that feels like, and it's fucking terrible.

Speaker 3 What was it like for you watching this one? Terrible. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You mentioned you tweeted out something.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but I didn't even want to tweet it. I think I would rather do it here because you'd be able to talk more.
Yeah. But it doesn't matter what happens.

Speaker 3 Whatever you say is going to get clipped or touched and put out. It sucks.
I knew it was going to be weird going into it. It progressively got weirder as the week went on.

Speaker 3 On one hand, you played your entire life with an organization and team. A lot of people in that building, coaches, friends, teammates that you've gone through adversity with, and

Speaker 3 it really makes you very, very close. And then on the other hand, you have your brother.
And I've always supported you. I've always wanted you to win.

Speaker 1 Every step of the way.

Speaker 3 And I wanted you to win this game. I thought I made that clear.
You made it clear to me. It was weird, man.

Speaker 3 It was hard to navigate because I'm trying to, like, obviously I'm trying to say that I have people on the Eagles that I love, and I also have you.

Speaker 3 And I tried to make it known that I was rooting for you, and it felt like I couldn't be right.

Speaker 3 It felt like no matter what I said, some people were going to skew it and say that I'm rooting for the Eagles, and some people are going to skew it and say that I was rooting for the Chiefs or Travis.

Speaker 3 And it sucks.

Speaker 1 It's the world we live in, man. Everybody wants to just fucking call people out.
I know I always had your support. And I joked around saying with your tearing for the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Listen, you and Kylie are there in Philly and have created one of the most beautiful situations that I've ever seen. You guys are loved by the community out there.

Speaker 1 You guys are very much a part of the community out there. Outside of that, that organization, everything from the foundation stuff that Kylie does, both of you guys do,

Speaker 1 to the countless, countless amount of hours and years you spent in that organization, giving it everything that you have.

Speaker 1 You don't have to explain anything to anybody as long as the people right here. I know who Jason Kelsey is and I know my brother and what his intentions are and

Speaker 1 nobody can ever fucking confuse that. And you can't let these

Speaker 1 jamokes online make you think that you're in the wrong for what you're saying. What you're saying is I hear it.
I hear it loud and clear.

Speaker 1 And I think the people in the Philadelphia organization organization understand exactly who you are and what you represent and how you are saying it as well.

Speaker 3 And all that is true. Like, we are still very much attached to this organization, which is why there is part of me that obviously is very happy and proud that they have won this game.

Speaker 3 But that doesn't take precedence. And that doesn't make you less of a brother.

Speaker 1 That doesn't make you less of a brother.

Speaker 3 That does not take precedence over rooting for you.

Speaker 3 And that's why this game sucked. It was very, very hard to watch.
As much as I love the Eagles, as much as I love the city of Philadelphia, there was not a fucking ounce of me that,

Speaker 3 and I know that, like, I don't know. I tried to correlate that I was rooting for both sides the whole time and that I was going to be happy and sad regardless.
That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 No matter who won, it was going to be a happy and sad regardless. And trying to communicate why I might be rooting for the Eagles, I think some people, I don't even want to do this.

Speaker 3 I don't even know, like, as now we've already done it.

Speaker 1 Fuck them. You don't owe any of these dickheads the acknowledgement.

Speaker 1 You really don't, Jason. Everyone that knows you knows your intentions.
Anybody saying anything otherwise is, like you said, just a fucking

Speaker 1 just trying to get an arise out of somebody else.

Speaker 3 It was the weirdest game ever watching. Because the only other time you don't care about the outcome is when you're not really attached to either of the teams.

Speaker 3 And in that case, there's not a lot of emotion put into it. Yeah.
Like I still remember like the first play, the A.J. Brown penalty.
I remember this like wealth of like,

Speaker 3 like I jumped up out of my seat. That wasn't a penalty.
Like I, I,

Speaker 3 like, I jumped up out of my seat on that one.

Speaker 3 Then I jumped up out of my seat on

Speaker 3 the Nick Bolton hitting Dallas Goddard because I thought that was a horseshoe call.

Speaker 3 And I'm going

Speaker 3 back and forth. It ended up just not being a fun game to be a part of or watch.
Because

Speaker 3 at all times, I'm just like, I was, yeah, I don't know. I don't even know what I want to say, man.
I really don't. Because no matter what, it's going to piss somebody off.

Speaker 3 And I probably shouldn't care if it pisses anybody off. That's probably the reality of it.

Speaker 1 That's the Jason Kelsey we all know right there.

Speaker 1 You're giving these people way too much fucking,

Speaker 1 too much of your effort, too much of your time, too much of your attention.

Speaker 3 I didn't know what it was going to feel like going through the game. I thought I did.
I thought I understood going into it that I would be happy in some ways, sad in another way.

Speaker 3 And that, but like, the further the game went on, I just got more and more

Speaker 3 upset. And I think part of that is like I'm in a box with all of our family and loved ones and friends.
We're all just like,

Speaker 3 dude, this sucks for Trev. This sucks for

Speaker 3 his team.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 I don't know. Like, I wasn't,

Speaker 3 I didn't anticipate the amount of

Speaker 3 just like sheer discomfort and frustration that I would have watching the game. I thought I would kind of just be like, oh, you know, like, I like both of these teams.

Speaker 3 Whoever wins, may the best team win. And it just didn't turn into that.
It didn't.

Speaker 3 And I don't know if it would have been reversed if it would have been the same way.

Speaker 1 I don't think it would have. If it was an actual fucking game, that shit was just.
Well, that would have made it.

Speaker 3 That might have made it better. I think the fact that it was that kind of like lopsided was like, man, this is fucking just like

Speaker 3 hard, to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, man,

Speaker 1 nobody's going to be able to relate

Speaker 1 to what you or me or, you know, even Kylie. Nobody can relate to what it's like to have to

Speaker 1 pick between

Speaker 1 those two like this type of situation.

Speaker 3 Nobody knows what it's like. That was my whole thing.
I wasn't trying to pick. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 But you can still be happy for somebody and you can still be sad for somebody. It is what it is.
You know, and at the end of the day, it's fucking football, man.

Speaker 1 And I know I'm saying it like that because I just lost the fucking game and I'm going to act like

Speaker 1 it didn't mean the entire world, but it's my third. I've, I've, it's my third in three years.
I've had so much success playing this game. It still means the world, and it always will.

Speaker 1 And this one's going to fucking hurt just like fucking Tampa did. And I think about that way too often.
But

Speaker 1 this game is just, you know, it's,

Speaker 1 it's just our jobs.

Speaker 1 My life is still beautiful. My, I come home to

Speaker 1 an amazing household of family and friends that absolutely love me.

Speaker 1 And I, you know, that's, that's the beauty of, you know, going through a hard time like this is that, you know, I can still have happiness and still have

Speaker 1 an amazing time in life,

Speaker 1 even when something like this happens because I got the support that I do. And that's how I'm going to feel about it.
I'm definitely compartmentalizing and

Speaker 1 putting this

Speaker 1 in the back corner and I'll deal with this at another time.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I'm not going to sit here and act like the world's over because of this thing. And

Speaker 1 I don't think...

Speaker 3 I would not expect you to.

Speaker 3 I just don't know how to articulate that I'm happy happy for some of the eagles

Speaker 3 but at the same time i was miserable during the game watching you not achieve your success again yeah that's the reality of it like i didn't enjoy any part of that it fucking sucked and like it felt weird for me not to be cheering that's what it felt like it felt like why the fuck am i not as excited and i think it was it was just a fucked up emotion and It's really incredible that the Eagles pulled this off.

Speaker 3 It's been incredible from last year's ending and the way this team has rebounded, the way they've been rebuilt from 2022 and before that.

Speaker 3 It's a tip of the cap for Howie Roseman.

Speaker 3 There are so many new players on the defensive side of the ball, and all of these young guys ended up panning out and have played at a high level between Cooper DeGene, Quinnyon Mitchell, Zach Bond, Millian Williams, Jalen Carter,

Speaker 3 Jordan Davis on the defensive line, Nolan Smith, Vic Fangio, and all the coaches on the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 3 It didn't start great. I mean, they started 2-2,

Speaker 3 coming off of a year where they finished 7-8.

Speaker 3 And the way they stuck together, the way they got better, the way they continued to improve, and how they finished the season has been spectacular on that side of the ball.

Speaker 3 Obviously, getting Saquon was huge offensively, getting rid of the undersized center, Jason Kelsey, and putting in Cam Jugens,

Speaker 3 getting Makai Bechton in at right guard.

Speaker 3 I just think everything was fantastic and how they continued to like block out noise, questioning Nick Siriani and his ability as a head coach, questioning Jalen Hurts, questioning everybody.

Speaker 3 And these guys really stuck it together and found a way to fucking do it. And it's hard, it is so hard to get all the way to the Super Bowl and win in this league.

Speaker 3 I just think this is such a huge moment for all of these guys that came up short two years ago that were there, and

Speaker 3 how they built this thing in the two years since.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 it makes being a former Eagle extremely proud. And I think the entire city, obviously, means a lot.
Do you want me to cut all that, Travis? You look like you're just like...

Speaker 1 It's your dude. You're allowed to have your world, your legacy, your word.
You're allowed to have that. You can be happy for your former teammates.
Don't let who,

Speaker 1 what happened to me, you know,

Speaker 1 make you feel any less proud of what you've helped build.

Speaker 3 I didn't help build shit. They did this on their own.
I'm not a part of this. Yes, you did.

Speaker 1 I hear you. I hear you.
You like to think that, Jason? I think that you've shown a lot of people in that building how to be a professional, how to do things the right way.

Speaker 1 So I can sit here and say that you definitely had a piece of that. I know you weren't in that building doing everything, but I've heard guys like Jordan Mulata talk about you.

Speaker 1 I've heard guys like Jalen Hurts talk about you. I've heard Lane Johnson talk about you and what you've been to their career.
So you can say that

Speaker 3 you can say that it's

Speaker 1 you had nothing to do with it, but

Speaker 1 bits and pieces of who you are still

Speaker 1 living and breathing in that facility for sure.

Speaker 3 Well, shout out to Philadelphia. If anybody wants to drink a garage beer,

Speaker 3 the limes are a nice Kelly green-ish.

Speaker 3 Try not to do that.

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Speaker 3 That does it for

Speaker 3 because now we're getting to the out of the house. Out of the house.

Speaker 1 Brought to you by American Express. Jason, how was it being down in New Orleans all week? Was it as was it as tasty and as fun as you remember it being?

Speaker 3 Dude, first of all, I don't remember a lot from college. I feel like when you're playing in a game, you don't really get to experience the cities.
You know this.

Speaker 3 You guys are there for the whole week, but you're practicing and your schedule is so laid out. You have like maybe two to three hours of the day that you could go do something.

Speaker 3 And when you get that time, you're usually not spending it going out. You're like, all right, I'm going to take this time to do nothing.
This was the first time.

Speaker 3 being in New Orleans where I really got to experience the city because every other time I've been there, it's been for football. And I got to say, I fucking love that city, man.

Speaker 3 It was an awesome host city.

Speaker 3 Las Vegas was great. It really was.
And it was the perfect infrastructure set up to host a Super Bowl. New Orleans, the perfect vibe, food, mentality, culture.
I mean, it was just unreal.

Speaker 3 The issue was the infrastructure is awful. Like there was going from place to place was a train wreck.

Speaker 3 And then at night, for some reason, they have this ordinance that whenever the train's coming through town, it has to blow its horn every time it's going to a crosswalk.

Speaker 3 So you're just hearing a fucking train horn constantly in the middle of the night, which is annoying as fuck. But outside of that, it was fantastic.
It was really good.

Speaker 1 Beignets. Yeah, I was about to say, you get some more beignets, some more gumbo, or what?

Speaker 3 I went to Cafe Dumont, like the original one, which is not even just the beignets, it's the whole vibe of it.

Speaker 3 It's got like the little hats and the get-up, and you're outside, and it's just a

Speaker 3 dope vibe. You ever been to Keys?

Speaker 3 No. I don't even know what the rest of the night is.
Like Keys Fried Chicken. I think it's I'm we're so I went to get my palm red

Speaker 3 and we were talking we had like all these trendy spots that we were gonna hit up after that and after the palm reading they're like oh we were trying to like where are we gonna go to eat and the guys hey if you want the local experience you got to go to keys

Speaker 3 I was like keys like yeah it's a gas station that serves fried chicken I was like yeah that's that's right up Jason Kelsey's alley so we

Speaker 3 we went over to this place bro the most like it was similar, not similar, but like, again, the best barbecue spot, my favorite barbecue spot in Kansas City, Joe's, is Joe's.

Speaker 3 Like, there's something about food being served at a gas station that just is like, yeah, I'm going to check this out.

Speaker 3 If it's got a good, if, if food at a gas station has some word of the mouth going about it, you know that shit's good.

Speaker 3 So we pull up to this spot keys. It's got po-boys, fried chicken.

Speaker 1 I get up there and I'm like, what made sheets in quick trip, like the stations that they are in this world?

Speaker 3 No doubt. And I get up there and I'm I'm like, all right, let me get some dark meat.
And the guy's like, get the white meat. And I was like, dude, white, it's too dry.
I don't like white meat.

Speaker 3 He's like, hey, this white meat ain't dry. So I got a chicken breast.
First bite into that chicken breast, dog. Dry as shit.
Nothing dry about it. That shit was so fucking good.

Speaker 3 And it was the perfect amount of spice where it's not overwhelmingly spicy in that first bite, but the more you eat, it just like starts engulfing you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It gets you going.

Speaker 3 But I got the fried chicken.

Speaker 3 I got a hot sausage poboy which was phenomenal i tried a pineapple soda big shot which i guess is specific to new orleans it was like a pineapple creamsticle it was so fucking good so i was getting a bunch of like

Speaker 3 uh convenience store local spots some some baked good that came in like a tray i forget what that was called but it was it was like a brownie he was fucking real good i know Kylie and I went out to a fancy dinner one night called

Speaker 3 you fancy son of a bitch it was what Peyton recommended recommended. It was Clancy's.
Oh, nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It was really good. One of the items that they're really recommended for is the fried oysters.
I see. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 I'm in on,

Speaker 1 I'm out on Lugie's, but

Speaker 3 the fried things. Yeah, it's different.
Different experience.

Speaker 1 Maybe throw some cheese on there?

Speaker 3 I don't know if you know this, but there was a

Speaker 3 oyster recall while we were down there. So we didn't eat any of the oysters.
All the bar stool got sick. They were all getting the neurovirus from the oysters.

Speaker 1 It's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 So we didn't have any any of the oysters, and we didn't have any of the oysters at Clancy's, but they had plenty of. I had turtle soup that was Cajun-style turtle soup.

Speaker 1 It's fucked up, man. You're eating turtles, turtles.

Speaker 3 Hey, man, now that I know what they taste like, I'm gonna keep eating them.

Speaker 3 It was damn good.

Speaker 3 That turtle soup is great. What do you eat? And then,

Speaker 3 what do you mean? Is there like, do you eat the leg? What do you eat?

Speaker 1 It was so chopped up, it was what's in those shells. That

Speaker 3 I think you eat the

Speaker 3 yeah, I have no idea.

Speaker 3 I'm not gonna lie, I have no idea idea what you're eating but it was great the turtle soup was fantastic i had a like a soup double cup they just chip the thing open you just eat it out of the shell it's like the shell is a bowl

Speaker 3 no you don't even know it's a turtle you just see the meat and like the soup kind of like kind of cup cut up it's like little spoonfuls yeah i'm out very good highly recommend the house salad was great The double cut pork chop was phenomenal.

Speaker 1 Did you go to any Super Bowl parties or no?

Speaker 3 I went to a New Heights party. I went to a Stapleton concert.
And then outside of that, I just lost all my money at a casino.

Speaker 3 Casino is right next door. And because I won so much money last year at Las Vegas,

Speaker 3 I thought, you know, we'll just keep this rolling. This would be great.
Yep, it didn't work this time. Yeah.
That's how it works. It was back to why I normally don't go to the casino because

Speaker 3 they're just like, just handing them money. This fucking guy, Tang, flipped 21.
I'm like, goddamn, Tang.

Speaker 3 Should I just bend over and pull my pants down? Is that where we're at right now?

Speaker 1 I like my odds. I don't like it when, because then I hate the dealer.

Speaker 3 Oh, no, I don't ever take it on the dealer. Although I did get mad at Tang.
I did get mad at Tang because he let somebody hit on a 14 when he was showing a five.

Speaker 3 And I was like, Tang, that's a piece of shit move, dog. You can't let that.
You got to ask, like, are you sure? You got to, like, be,

Speaker 3 you know what I mean? Like, I know, I always tip dealers. Dealers are the best, but you can't be letting somebody just like hit on a 14.
But we're going to be able to do that. You got to double check.

Speaker 3 You gotta ask, like, are you sure? Like, and point to the five that you're, that you're showing. You know what I mean? That's dealer etiquette.

Speaker 1 What if the guy was just feeling it?

Speaker 3 I think that, in all honesty, the person that hit was a little drunk. He was continually having to correct her.
And I think he just got tired of doing it.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 I saw that happen. And I was like,

Speaker 3 the moment that happened, I was like, this whole fucking, I'm losing all my goddamn money right now.

Speaker 1 I get so impatient having to quote unquote play by the book. I don't do anything by the book.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So it's like for me to have to do anything by you do some things by the book.

Speaker 1 I don't do anything by the book. I'm like

Speaker 1 I'm splitting the fuck out of tens every single time.

Speaker 1 I'm doing everything, dude.

Speaker 1 I'm doing it all. If there's any chance that I could make more money than what I just put down,

Speaker 1 I'm doing it.

Speaker 3 God, that's

Speaker 3 any chance to double, split, like

Speaker 1 all all of it every second. I'm doing the side bets every fucking turn.

Speaker 3 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 If I'm feeling a lot of low cards coming out at a certain time, I'll hit I'll hit on 16. I don't give a shit.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you do not want to play. Nobody wants to play Blackjack with me.

Speaker 3 We tried roulette. You know, you've turned Kylie into a big roulette player.
I hate it. You've turned her into it.
Yeah. You.
You taught her how to play. I know I did.

Speaker 3 She knew how to play when I taught her. She did not.
No, she did not know how to play. Yes, she did.
You taught her.

Speaker 3 You said you got to play this way.

Speaker 1 No, I did.

Speaker 3 Sit down on the European table and play the outside.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Kylie learned this when she was taking French.

Speaker 3 When she learned French.

Speaker 1 She learned how to play roulette.

Speaker 3 And then I'm sitting there playing craps, and this fucking just. Dude is sitting down playing the don't pass line, killing it.
Just killing it. Don't.

Speaker 3 it's that vibe.

Speaker 3 It's like, I want to fucking

Speaker 3 kill this guy so bad.

Speaker 1 I hope you're your energy right now is ruining my time. Do you mind putting it on the pass line?

Speaker 1 Dude, craps.

Speaker 3 But then I kind of like it because I'm like, I'm just going to play just to try and win, and he's killing me. And then it's like, goddamn.

Speaker 1 I might just go live in a casino for a month.

Speaker 3 That might have been, to be honest, that was a bigger bloodbath than the game was. Like, I know you're frustrated with the Eagles Chiefs game.

Speaker 3 The craps table with Jason Kelsey versus this guy, even, I mean, it was even more embarrassing. It was

Speaker 1 I don't know if it can get any more embarrassing than that. Fuck! Coolest person you ran into all week.

Speaker 3 Coolest? The coolest.

Speaker 1 I saw you go past one guy at the game.

Speaker 3 You did? Who?

Speaker 1 The Sandman.

Speaker 3 Yes, you did see that. I did see that.
I felt, I was kind of in a rush, like hurrying past him, and I almost missed him. And he's like, Jason, it's Adam.

Speaker 3 I'm like, yeah, I know you fucking are Adam Sandler.

Speaker 3 Are you kidding me? But thank you stopping. Nah, that was dope.
It was awesome seeing the Sandman. Saw Rob McEleny.
He was in the suite next to us. Saw Bradley Cooper from a few suites now.

Speaker 3 We did a nice wave. We didn't go over there, but BC.
It's my guy right there, man. Oh, who else did I see? I saw Scotty Hartnell.
Scotty Hartnell was out there. Aaron and Carissa.

Speaker 3 Soldier, I saw Stapleton, Chris. Saw Burt Kreiser, saw Busson, saw PMT.

Speaker 1 I just said the coolest person that ever saw.

Speaker 3 Oh, sorry. Yeah, my bad.

Speaker 3 who oh the coolest person I saw was Mike Michael Cherry Coke

Speaker 3 he was let me let me make sure I get his accolades right so I went to a U.S. Naval air base down there

Speaker 3 one of the guys I met this guy from Philadelphia at Weaver's Orchard We were picking apples at the girls one offseason and he's like hey if you're ever in New Orleans you should stop by the military base you can you guys want to do the podcast there or do whatever, we'd love to have you.

Speaker 3 And dude, he invited me down. I got to see like a practice routine with a bunch of jets that went off.
They were doing like tactical

Speaker 3 formations and stuff. Dude, it was insane.
It was absolutely.

Speaker 3 I got in a flight simulator.

Speaker 1 How'd you do?

Speaker 3 I mean, I was coming right off Bourbon Street, so not great. It was very wobbly flight.
Very wobbly flight. The joystick.

Speaker 3 But, dude, very disorienting, too. Like, whoa,

Speaker 3 he did not let me land it. He was like, there's no way you're going to be able to land this.
So, we're just going to move this, keep this thing moving. What else? What else?

Speaker 1 I got to get down there.

Speaker 3 Dude, it was so sick. Honestly, it would be great to go back and do a podcast there because those dudes were awesome.
It's just a great vibe.

Speaker 3 I also just love being around military guys because they're always just like

Speaker 3 out of other gems, dude. What else? Ate a bunch of king cake.
Went to the oldest bar running continuously in New Orleans. It was like a something blacksmith.
It's been open for like 300 years.

Speaker 3 Lafitte's blacksmith bar, right?

Speaker 3 Freaking dope. Super cool spot.
So we got it. We got the best.
We did a lot. We did a lot.

Speaker 1 I think you've officially perfected getting out of the house, Jason. I'm just, as a brother of you and knowing who you've been your entire life, I'm proud.

Speaker 3 I'm happy to see this. Thank you.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 I'm happy to see you turn into this and enjoy what the world has to offer.

Speaker 1 And shout out to New Orleans, man.

Speaker 1 I don't have the fondest of memories there, but

Speaker 3 the Kelseys have awful luck in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 There is

Speaker 3 Sugar Bowl. I lost a playoff game here in 2018 after the Super Bowl.
Well, 2019. And then obviously this last week.
This week, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then, but I will say this. I have always enjoyed the random times that I was in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 And I have so many, so many friends and teammates that I just fucking love that are from

Speaker 1 the state of Louisiana, but specifically around the New Orleans area. And I got nothing but love for them.

Speaker 3 I'm not going to lie. I love the culture.

Speaker 1 No, it's the best. It's the best.
Going down there for a few bachelor parties in my day and enjoying the music and bar scenes. And

Speaker 1 it is a really, really cool place. But for whatever reason, me and football does not thrive there.

Speaker 1 Again, shout out to New Orleans. And that does it for Out of the House.

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Speaker 3 One thing that Travis and I didn't get to do while the game was happening, because we were both there and watching it, is we didn't get to see the best commercials.

Speaker 3 I mean, that's the one thing that everybody is so synonymous with the Super Bowl. It's, you know, what are the best ads of the year?

Speaker 3 And there was one that we wanted to highlight, but there was a Nike ad. It's the first Super Bowl ad in 27 years and featured a load of female athletes, including,

Speaker 3 I mean, one of the biggest episodes we've ever done in Caitlin Clark. You.

Speaker 1 I love Nike commercials. I've been a huge fan of

Speaker 1 Caitlin Clark said she's been in college,

Speaker 1 obviously through the Olympics.

Speaker 3 Shakari Richardson. Yep.
You can't win, so win. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Speaking of all the things they say women can't do.

Speaker 3 Yeah. If there's one thing I can firmly get on board with is telling a bunch of people who think you can't do something to shove it.
I'm all on board with that. That's a great message by Nike.

Speaker 1 I'm with that as well.

Speaker 3 With some incredible athletes.

Speaker 1 A bunch of familiar faces, yeah.

Speaker 3 Gold medal winners, freaking champions.

Speaker 1 Nike, thank you for such a powerful message on the biggest stage.

Speaker 1 You know, obviously everybody watches those Super Bowl commercials to see what messages are sent. And Nike's sending one of the best ones of this year.
So, and shout out to Caitlin.

Speaker 3 Killing it.

Speaker 1 Getting in a dope-ass Nike commercial, man.

Speaker 3 Gosh, gotta love it. That's another thing that's nostalgic being like the face of Nike, yeah, right, and

Speaker 3 it also being Nike's

Speaker 3 well, Jordan was the face of Jordan, I guess, but

Speaker 1 Tiger, I mean, he was he was originally the face of Nike, right?

Speaker 3 So, you got Jordan, you got Tiger, LeBron, there's somebody in between those, but I mean, Griffey, Griffey, Kobe,

Speaker 1 Wayne, Wayne Gretzky.

Speaker 3 Shout out to Nike for

Speaker 1 jumping in on the Super Bowl commercials, coming with one that actually had a very, very meaningful message to it, to all the young woman athletes out there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 I'll always be Team Nike.

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I actually saw this tweet and thought it was hilarious as a no-dum question.

Speaker 3 So, um,

Speaker 3 if you had, so this was in response to the statement I released saying that I love and care about you more than anyone else, more than anyone, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 And this question, this was a prompt underneath that response of

Speaker 3 basically saying that it's ridiculous that I would say that I love you more than Kylie undergoes, which I love you the same, but we're going to read this question. I don't love anybody more.

Speaker 3 I love you the same.

Speaker 1 If you think I give a fuck about...

Speaker 1 This is so funny. I know you're.

Speaker 3 We're going to read this question. Go ahead.
If you had to push Travis or your wife over a cliff, who would you choose? You must choose one. Don't skirt the question, Jason.

Speaker 3 You said you love no one more than Travis. Who are you? So are you pushing your wife over? Here's my answer, and tell me if I'm correct.
Should I answer first or do you want to answer first?

Speaker 1 This question is for you.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 I'm pushing Travis over

Speaker 3 because

Speaker 3 he would tell me to push him over the cliff. 100%.

Speaker 3 Bam, baby.

Speaker 1 Don't you fucking push Kylie off of that fucking cliff.

Speaker 3 Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 You'll be just fine. All right.
I'll roll.

Speaker 1 I'll fucking hit the ground and fucking roll out of that fucking cliff.

Speaker 3 I'll find a way out of that.

Speaker 3 I'll flank away to safety.

Speaker 1 I don't know how the fuck I'll do it.

Speaker 3 I'll fucking sprawl out like a flying squirrel or some shit. I'll be fine.

Speaker 1 I'll figure some shit out.

Speaker 3 But a Chris Farley in American Heroes. This is that the movie?

Speaker 1 Dude, oh my God. Now that's a deep cut right there.

Speaker 3 I love that fucking song.

Speaker 3 Is that what that movie? I think it was American Heroes, right? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Something like that.

Speaker 1 Something Heroes.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I think it was American Heroes.
Yeah, they were fucking... Donkey.

Speaker 1 They were racing fucking Lewis and Clark to the West.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ah, that's funny.

Speaker 3 Should we keep reimagining this question?

Speaker 1 No, I think you answered it.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 3 If you had to push me

Speaker 3 or mom over a cliff, who would you choose? You must choose one.

Speaker 3 Don't skirt the question. Fuck it.
Don't skirt the question, Travis.

Speaker 3 Mom's like 70.

Speaker 1 You have kids that need to be raised.

Speaker 3 God damn it. Don't skirt the question, Travis.
You got to choose one.

Speaker 1 I'm going to choose mom because you would want me to push mom.

Speaker 3 Oh my God.

Speaker 3 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I think. I wouldn't push either of you.
I'd jump off.

Speaker 3 That's what I, when I first read this question, I thought the exact same thing. Like, I'd just jump off of the cliff.
No. But I don't think it works like that.
It's hypothetical. It doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 You can't.

Speaker 3 i think the answer dude you gotta push me this is the this is the code of being a man when the lifeboats are getting loaded the women and children go first yeah

Speaker 3 you gotta push me yep but i think mom would jump off that's what i think she's not on here to vouch but i know that if it was me versus any of my siblings i'm jumping off the cliff you don't even got to push me well unless that's not allowed then i'll tell you to push me i'll give you the nod and if you're not allowed to say it i'll just go like this for future reference if we're ever in this scenario just a little and we're not allowed to

Speaker 3 speak, if I just go like this,

Speaker 3 push me right off the ground.

Speaker 3 You're fucking hilarious.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 3 Just in case we ever get caught in that, just in case we ever get caught in this ridiculous hypothetical situation, push me.

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Speaker 1 Next one, no dumb questions. Hashtag, do you put the cereal first or the milk first?

Speaker 3 Do I put the cereal first or the milk first?

Speaker 1 And this is why we have this fucking segment in here as no dumb questions.

Speaker 1 This is about as stupid of a question as I've ever heard. Everyone knows the cereal goes in first.

Speaker 3 Be careful, Trev. Be careful what you say.

Speaker 1 Everyone knows the cereal goes in first.

Speaker 1 You have to lather up all the cereal.

Speaker 3 So I'm on the same page with you.

Speaker 1 You don't just pour it in one part of the bowl either. You pour it over the top and you get everything

Speaker 1 covered in milk.

Speaker 3 I'm 100% with you. There's no logical reason to pour the cereal second, but for some reason, Kylie pours the cereal second.
What? And it's never made sense to me.

Speaker 3 I don't know why. I mean, in no other situation where a solid goes into a liquid, would you ever put the solid in second? Like, it's just asking for a disaster to happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 Like, you're not, you don't fill a glass up to the brim and then start loading ice cubes in that motherfucker. You're going to get water all over the place.
What are we doing here? Yeah.

Speaker 3 But Kylie does do it that way.

Speaker 1 That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 And I usually don't say anything because it's none of my business, even though I think it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 It's not the argument to start.

Speaker 3 And also, it doesn't make it taste better. Like, if you just like dry cereal, what are you putting in milk anywhere with it?

Speaker 3 Like, there's a reason you put the milk in second because it kind of gets the cereal to the perfect consistency of moistenity. Dude, it's thank you.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Nice. So, Kyle, you're wrong on this one.
I'll go to, and I'm pretty sure if we put a poll out, you'd be in the bottom 8% of the 92%.

Speaker 1 Well, there's only one way to find out. 92%ers.
Hey! We will have a poll. So let us know if us or Kylie are in the right.

Speaker 1 Next no-dome question. What do we got?

Speaker 3 Okay, but okay, from at notorious RBG. Okay, but speaking of loyalty issues, what about this? It's 10 years from now.

Speaker 3 You both retired, and our beloved Browns, inexplicably, have made it to the Super Bowl versus the Chiefs and Eagles. Ooh.

Speaker 3 10 years from now?

Speaker 3 Who are we rooting for?

Speaker 1 That's a good question. Initially, I would say I wouldn't even think about cheering for the Browns.
Yeah. But I do still have that childhood Cleveland sports fan

Speaker 1 fandom in me.

Speaker 3 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 And to see, you know, how

Speaker 1 the situation over there in Cleveland has been since I've been in the league.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's been rough. What do you mean, since you've been in the league, since they've come back?

Speaker 1 I mean, the Tim Couch era wasn't horrible.

Speaker 3 And they made it to the playoffs.

Speaker 3 It wasn't the best.

Speaker 1 I just feel like the organization wasn't looked at the way they're looked at right now.

Speaker 3 Sure.

Speaker 1 And right now it's pretty rough.

Speaker 3 Yep. And

Speaker 1 I think Cleveland deserves to get a year-in, year-out,

Speaker 1 respectable and great product out there on the field. Now, don't get me wrong, Flacco leading him to the playoffs and

Speaker 1 giving him some fun to cheer for last year as the Cinderella story. I mean, that was, I enjoyed, you know, talking to my friends about that one.
One, because it's easy to cheer for a guy like Flacco.

Speaker 1 What I'm trying to say is there will be the kid in me that cheers for the Browns. But if there's anybody still left from the run that we've had here in Kansas City, I would probably say

Speaker 1 I'd hope for the best for them.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm going to go Eagles. I've already learned my lesson.
I'm not touching the Browns for a second.

Speaker 3 They already think I don't want to root for them for some reason. If it's anybody other than the Chiefs and Eagles, I'm going Browns.
Yeah, I mean, that's where it comes out.

Speaker 3 They're the next team, but we've both spent a lot of time and energy personally with both of these franchises.

Speaker 3 I don't think at this point, Browns versus Chiefs, maybe, but Browns versus Eagles, no, I'm going Eagles.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going, I could say the same. Browns versus Chiefs, I'm going Chiefs.
Browns vs.

Speaker 3 Eagles, I'll go Browns. They're probably fourth behind whatever team you're coaching for.
Shout out to Andy for dropping that knowledge on us.

Speaker 3 Coach Trav

Speaker 3 has a future.

Speaker 1 Coach Trav.

Speaker 3 Coach Trav.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Would you go by Coach Trav or Coach Kelsey?

Speaker 1 Coach Kelse just sounds way better.

Speaker 3 I like Coach Trav. I don't know what it is.
Does it? All right, fair enough. Coach Coach Kelsey.

Speaker 1 I think just Kelsey, not even Kelsey.

Speaker 3 God damn it. That'd be you.
Don't call me.

Speaker 1 You'd be Coach Kelsey.

Speaker 3 And you'd be like, don't call me Coach Kelsey, motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 Well, that does it for No Dumb Questions brought to you by Marvel Studios, Captain America, Brave New World.

Speaker 3 That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Not the most fun one to start off, but...

Speaker 1 Yeah, thanks for your no dumb questions. We found a way to close it out.

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Speaker 1 and there goes some fun merch for you guys to buy if you guys want it.

Speaker 3 Peace.