Travis on the Super Bowl Loss, Jason on Mixed Emotions and Who's Going Over a Cliff? | Ep 124

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It's just life, man. This sport can humble you so fast.
It can shoot you to the moon and it can bury you, man. I know that you don't probably care that much about it right now.
I mean, you have so many records at this point that this is kind of like just another one. But at the end of the day, it's just another thing that cements you as one of the best players ever to play in the nfl that's the last thing that i care about right now i know the only record i get is that he like kept going on the field he's out there again welcome back to new heights ladies and gentlemen a wondrous show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by Buffalo Wild Wings Go.
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Yeah, man, this is going a a very um gotta do it type episode um obviously after the the big loss um this isn't uh the easiest thing to do get on here and um and talk to the world and especially our 92 percenters who tune in week in week out and um give us your time give us your your attention and uh and and cheer for us and us and root us on. And it was a weird weekend, but I appreciate you guys for all the support I've seen leading up to it and even afterwards.
But, Jason, before we get into everything, why don't you let the people know what we got coming up? We got a big episode, guys. We're going to recap Super Bowl 59 and talk about what else we got down to while we were in New Orleans.
As always, we're going to get to some of your no-dumb questions. But first, I guess we're just going to get right into it.
I don't know if there's any new news. All the news is over.
I guess we can just go. All right.
Cool. Eagles 40, Chiefs 22.
God damn. The three-peat did not happen, obviously.
Did not happen in the Superdome. Eagles ended up getting it done.
Nick Sirianni, Jalen Hurts, Trav. I think people have been waiting to hear from you since the game Sunday.
Yeah. What do you want to say? I don't know.
Where do you want to start? I mean, I already, you know, congratulated the Eagles. It was hard going into the exit interviews today.
Obviously, the last time I'll see probably a lot of those guys as it'll be a bit of a turnover this year, knowing the contract situations and everything. And outside of the game um I just wanted to thank my teammates for everything they fucking do man we um you know the effort the focus the the work that we put in that wasn't the reason you know um honestly uh going into the game I felt as confident as I ever felt um in going into a Super Bowl or a playoff game or a big game in my life.

And, you know, for a bunch of reasons, that just it just didn't happen, man.

It just wasn't our day.

Couldn't find a lick of momentum.

I'm kicking myself for some of the tiny, tiny decisions I made on the field, trying to do something more than what I was asked to do during plays.

I wasn't the best leader that I could be in motivating my guys and keeping my guys, you know, calm, cool, collected.

And I put a lot of that on myself as, you know, the guy that's been in the building for 12 years and seen a lot of football

and actually seen a situation just like this in the Super Bowl, talking about the Tampa Bay Super Bowl. It's a tough pill to swallow, man.
Every time we felt like we made a big play or we got something going, a penalty would happen or we'd be going backwards. And then on top that just um just not executing the play calls

um it wasn't the play calls it was a cumulative effort of everybody just not not finding a way to get it done man and uh to happen on the biggest stage sucks but to to have it happen for the second time in my career on the biggest stage man it's a tough pill to swallow it's a hard reality, man. man.
And, you know, I just, I love my teammates. I love my coaches, Chiefs Kingdom.
I'm sorry for how it ended, but, you know, it's, fuck. You know, I have a beautiful life.
I have a beautiful life, man. I have loved ones.
I have the most amazing family in the world that supports me in everything that I do. And they were all there cheering me on and hoping for the best on Sunday, man.
I just have to tip my hat to the Eagles. They were firing on all cylinders coming out, and it just felt like we just never had control over what was going on in that game.
I feel like every time you guys try to get something going, it just didn't work out, right? You're close to getting a third down, get them off the field, and they have to make a big play. There's a penalty.
Up until even halftime, even though the score was getting out of control, there's that big throw, the de-hop that doesn't get caught. And even then, I'm like, all right, if the Chiefs go down here,

they score before half, they get the ball coming out of half.

I just came away very much.

I know you guys are kicking yourselves for not playing your best game.

I just, you know, the Eagles played fantastic.

Everybody played their best across the board.

I mean, it was a truly impressive game from Philadelphia defensively. All those guys, Vic Fangio, Jalen Hurts played very well.
And that was the thing. All week, everybody's talking about, you know, what Spagg's going to do.
Is he going to try and sell out to stop Saquon and, you know, give the one-on-one matchups on the outside.

I don't know.

It almost didn't matter.

It felt like Jalen was just on it and he was executing regardless of what it was.

But I know this sucks to talk about for future.

I've been here, obviously.

Two years ago, I was here.

That was great. But I think it was a really impressive performance by Philadelphia, to say the least.

Yeah.

It's going to sting.

I don't know. But, you know, I think it was a really impressive performance by Philadelphia, to say the least.
Yeah, it's going to sting. I know everybody wants to know whether or not I'm playing next year.
And right now, I'm just kicking everything down the road. I'm kicking every can I can down the road.
And I'm not making any crazy decisions. But right now, the biggest thing is just being there for my teammates and being there for my coaches, understanding, you know, that there's a lot that goes into this thing.
You know, I've I've been fortunate over the past five, six years, I've played more football than anybody. Yeah.
And it's because the people that are in that building and the fact that we keep going to these AFC championships and these Super Bowls. And that means I'm playing an extra three games more than everybody else in the in the entire league.
And that's a lot of wear and tear on your body. And it's a lot.
It's a lot of time spent in the building, focusing on your craft, focusing on the task at hand, every challenge that you set up for yourself. And that process can be grueling.
It can weigh on you. It can make you better, and it can drive you crazy at the same time.
And right now, it's one of those things where it was kind of driving me crazy this year. And I think that it happens as you kind of tail off towards the back nine of your career, as the SVP would say.
You know, as you see yourself or not feel yourself have the success that you once used to have, man, it's a tough pill to swallow. And then on top of that, to not be there in the biggest moments,

knowing your team's counting on you, man. Those are all extremely hard things to – it's just a tough reality.
And, you know, I think I'm going to take some time to figure it out. And I think I owe it to my teammates that if I do come back, that it's going to be something that it's a wholehearted decision.
I'm not half assing it and I'm fully here for them. And I think I think I could play.
It's just whether or not it's I'm motivated or it's the best decision for me as a man, as a human, as a person to take on all that responsibility. You preach into the choir, brother.
It sucks when you get to this point in the career where it becomes harder and harder to do it. And I think there's a physicality that becomes more difficult to manage.
There's a mental approach that becomes more difficult to manage because a lot of times it's stocked on top of the physical discomfort and things that are happening. To do it right, you have to be committed.
You have to put the time in. You have to be all in.
And it's difficult to sign up for that because you know what it takes. You've been here three years in a row.
You've been to this game multiple times. You've had an amazing amount of success.
And it's frustrating when you're getting older in your career and you know that that is becoming harder and harder to do and more and more grueling to go through. So take your time.
Obviously, get away from everything for a while. The biggest thing is that, uh, you know, after the game, I still had over 50 something plus of my best friends and my family and, uh, my loved ones and everybody that, uh, has supported me throughout my life was there to, you know, at least make it not feel like the worst day of my life.
An opportunity to get all those people together under one roof, be around them, you know, hug them, smile with them, find a way to, you know, get through something really, really tough. It definitely made it a little, uh, a little easier, but, um, the, the reality is gonna, gonna suck here for, uh, quite a while.
It's just life, man. It's life.
This is, this sport can humble you so fast, man. It could give you so much praise.
It can, it can shoot you to the moon and it can, uh, it can bury you, man. It can absolutely bury you.
And, you know, it's just the occupation we chose, and, you know, not everything can go as planned sometimes, even though we've been able to find a way over the past, you know, however long. But especially this year in this team, we were known for finding a way.
And as much as I like to think we could have done things differently, man, it just didn't feel like at the end of it it was meant to be. It is what it is.
Yeah, I mean, listen, it's never been done before. It's never been done before for a reason.
It's incredibly hard. It's hard to keep teams intact.
It's hard to keep. You're having extended season.
You guys have played 60 games damn near over the past three years or whatever. And I'm not trying to make excuses.
There's just a reason why it's never been done. And I think that, you know, I know you guys are frustrated right now.
I know you're frustrated. I think the reality is what you guys have done is amazing still.
I know that you don't want to hear that right now. And I know that that game is frustrating as a result, but that doesn't take away from the last seven times you guys have been to the AFC Championship or whatever it is.
And five, I mean, it's remarkable, the journey and the run you guys have had. And you and Pat and Chris and certain guys have been at the epicenter of this for that entire time.
And a lot of the guys on this team have been there for three, this was their third time in a row. I know it's frustrating to look at this one game, especially because it was such a dominating game for the Eagles.
But I think that the reality is it's one of the incredible runs that's ever happened in this fucking game. And you guys have your legacies cemented on that and nobody can take that away.
I mean, people could try to talk shit, especially if they've never done anything in their lives.

But that's the reality of it.

There was one thing accomplished,

which is Travis Kelsey set a record,

a record for most catches in a career in the Super Bowl,

which, Travis, that's a big record.

It's not a very big record.

Why do you say it's not a big record?

I have a lot of Super Bowl appearances. So do a lot of people.
What do they say? Records are meant to be broken. That they are.
Well, you broke one. You broke the most catches in Super Bowl history, which I know that you don't probably care that much about it right now because of the way the game went.
I mean, you have so many records at this point that this is kind of like just another one. But at the end of the day, it's just another thing that cements you as one of the best players ever to play in the NFL.
I know you don't care, but I think at the end of the day, when it's all said and done, the records mean a little bit. Because once you're done, that's kind of all you have left is like the memories, the trophies, which obviously mean the most.
And then the stuff that makes other people recognize greatness, which unfortunately there are a lot of stats, but that's kind of all we have outside of trophies and highlights. No, I mean, I'm still, that's the last thing that I care about right now.
I know, but you will. And it's dope.
Just here to tell you, it's a fucking dope record. Thanks, brother.
As are all your other records. The only record I get is that he kept going on the field.
He's out there again. Look at him go.
Man, this guy really won't take a break he's headed out to the field for another consecutive week how'd he do no one knows just counts as a game played he only played the first drive i know he had four exactly. There we go.
I feel for you because losing a Super Bowl sucks. I mean, I don't wish that on anybody.
I talk all week. No matter who won or lost, I feel like I was going to be feeling shitty and feeling more with the team that lost.
Because I know what that feels like, and it's fucking terrible. What was it like for you watching this one? Terrible? Yeah.
You mentioned you tweeted out something. Yeah, but I didn't even want to tweet it.
I think I would rather do it here because you'd be able to talk more. Yeah.
But it doesn't matter what happens. Whatever you say is going to get clipped or touched and put out.
It sucks. I knew it was going to be weird going into it.
It progressively got weirder

as the week went on. On one hand, you played your entire life with an organization and team.
A lot of people in that building, coaches, friends, teammates that you've gone through adversity with, and it really makes you very, very close. And then on the other hand, you have your brother.

And I've always supported you.

I've always supported you. I've always wanted you to win.
Every step of the way. And I wanted you to win this game.
I thought I made that clear. You made it clear to me.
It was weird, man. It was hard to navigate because I'm trying to like, obviously, I'm trying to say that I have people on the Eagles that I love.
And I also have you. And I tried to make it known that I was rooting for you.
And it felt like I couldn't be right. Felt like no matter what I said, some people are going to skew it and say that I'm rooting for the Eagles.
And some people are going to skew it and say that I was rooting for the Chiefs or Travis. And it sucked.
It's the world we live in, man. Everybody wants to just fucking call people out out I know I always had your support and I joked around saying with your cheering for the EG listen you and Kylie are there in Philly and have created one of the most beautiful situations that I've ever seen you guys are loved by the community out there you guys are very much a part of the community out there outside of that that organization everything from the the foundation stuff that kylie does they both of you guys do um to the countless countless amount of hours and years you spent in that organization giving it everything that you have there is you don't have to explain anything to anybody as long as the people right here i know who jason kelsey is and i know my brother uh and what his intentions are and nobody can ever fucking confuse that and uh you can't let these uh jim moats online make you think that you're in the wrong for what you're saying what you you're saying is I hear it.
I hear it loud and clear. And I think the people in the Philadelphia organization understand exactly who you are and what you represent and how you are saying it as well.
And all that is true. We are still very much attached to this organization, which is why there is part of me that obviously is very happy and proud that they have won this game.

But that doesn't take...

And that doesn't make you less of a brother.

That doesn't make you less of a brother.

That doesn't make you...

All I want to say, that does not take precedence over rooting for you.

And that's why this game sucked.

It was very, very hard to watch.

As much as I love the Eagles, as much as I love the city of philadelphia there was not a fucking out to me that and i know that like i don't know i i tried to correlate that i was rooting for both sides the whole time and that i was going to be happy and sad regardless that's what no matter who won it was going to be a happy and sad regardless and trying to communicate why i might be rooting for the eagles i think some people i don't even want to do this i don't even know like as now we've already done it welcome you don't owe any of these dickheads the acknowledgement you really don't jason everyone that knows you knows your intentions anybody saying anything otherwise is like you said, just a fucking just trying to get a rise out of somebody else. It was the weirdest game ever watching because you want the only other time you don't care about the outcome is when you're not really attached to either of the teams.
And in that case, there's not a lot of emotion put into it. Yeah.
Like I still remember like the first play, the A.J. Brown penalty.
I remember this like wealth of like I jumped up out of my seat. That wasn't a penalty.
Like I jumped up out of my seat on that one. Then I jumped up out of my seat on the Nick Bolton hitting Dallas Goddard because I thought that was a horseshithit call and I'm going back and forth.
It ended up just not being a fun game to be a part of her watch because at, at all times I'm just like, I was, yeah, I don't know. I don't even know what I want to say, man.
I really don't. Cause no matter what, it's going to piss somebody off.
And I probably shouldn't care if it pisses anybody off. That's probably the reality of it.

That's the Jason Kelsa we all know right there.

You're giving these people way too much fucking,

too much of your effort, too much of your time,

too much of your attention.

I didn't know what it was going to feel like going through the game.

I thought I did.

I thought I understood going into it that I would be happy in some way,

sad in another way.

But like the further the game went on, I just got more and more like upset. And I think part of that is like I'm in a box with all of our family and loved ones and friends.
We're all just like, dude, this sucks for Trev. This sucks for his team.
And I don't know.

Like, I wasn't – I didn't anticipate the amount of just, like, sheer discomfort

and frustration that I would have watching the game.

I thought I would kind of just be like, oh, you know, like, I like both of these teams.

Whoever wins made the best team win, and it just didn't turn into that. It didn't.
Yeah yeah and i don't know if it would have been reversed if it would have been the same way i don't think it was if it was an actual fucking game that might have made it better yeah i think the fact that it was that kind of like lopsided was like man this is fucking just like hard to be honest with you um yeah listen man nobody's nobody's going to be able to relate to what you or or me or you know even kylie nobody can relate to what it's like to have to pick between those two like sit this type of situation i wasn what it's like that's my whole thing i wasn't trying to pick exactly exactly so then but it's it you can still be happy for somebody and you can still be sad for somebody it is what it is you know and that's what it is it's fucking football man either than and i know i'm i'm saying it like that because i just lost the fucking game and I'm going to act like it didn't mean the entire world, but it's my third in three years. I've had so much success playing this game.
It still means the world, and it always will, and this one's going to fucking hurt just like fucking Tampa did, and I think about that way too too often but this game is just you know it's it's just our jobs my my life is still beautiful my i come home to a an amazing household of family and friends that absolutely love me and i you know that's that's the beauty of you know going through a hard time like this is that, you know, I can still have happiness and still have, uh, an amazing time in life. Um, even when something like this happens, because I got the support that I do and that's, that's how I'm going to feel about it.
I'm definitely compartmentalizing and, and, uh, and, you know, putting this in the back corner and I'll deal with this at another time. But, you know, I'm not going to sit here and act like the world's over because of this thing.
And I don't think – I would not expect you to. Yeah.
I just don't know how to articulate that I'm happy for some of the Eagles, but at the same time, I was miserable during the game watching you not achieve your success again. Yeah.
That's the reality of it. Like I didn't enjoy any part of that.
It fucking sucked. And like, it felt weird for me not to be cheering.
That's what it felt like. It felt like, why the fuck am I not as excited? And I think it was, it was just a fucked up emotion.
And it's really incredible that the Eagles pulled this off. It's been incredible from last year's ending and the way this team has rebounded, the way they've been rebuilt from 2022 and before that.
It's a tip of the cap for Howie Roseman. There are so many new players on the defensive side of the ball, and all of these young guys ended up panning out and have played at a high level between Cooper DeGene, Quinion Mitchell, Zach Bond, Milton Williams, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis on the defensive line, Nolan Smith, Vic Fangio, and all the coaches on the defensive side of the ball.
So it didn't start great. I mean, they started two and two.
Coming off of a year where they finished seven and eight.

And the way they stuck together, the way they got better, the way they continued to improve and how they finished the season has been spectacular on that side of the ball. Obviously, getting Saquon was huge offensively.
Getting rid of the undersized center, Jason Kelsey, and putting in Cam Juergens. Getting Makai Becton in at right guard.
I just think everything was fantastic and how they continued to block out noise, questioning Nick Sirianni and his ability as a head coach, questioning Jalen Hurts, questioning everybody. And these guys really stuck it together and found a way to fucking do it.
And it's hard. It is so hard to get all the way to the Super Bowl

and win in this league.

I just think

this is such a huge

moment for all

of these guys

that came up short

two years ago

that were there

and

how they built

this thing

in the two years since.

And

it makes being

a former Eagle

extremely proud. And I think the entire city obviously means a lot.
Do you want me to cut all that, Travis? You look like you're just like – It's your dude. You're allowed to have your world, your legacy, your word.
You're allowed to have that. You can be happy for your former teammates.
Don't let what you know, make you feel any less proud of what you've helped build. I didn't help build shit.
They did this on their, I'm not a part of this. You did.
I hear you. I hear you like to think that Jason, I think that you've shown a lot of people in that building, um, how to be a professional, how to do things the right way.
So I can sit here and say that you definitely had a piece of that. I know you weren't in that building doing everything, but I've heard guys like Jordan Malata talk about you.
I've heard guys like Jalen Hurts talk about you. I've heard Lane Johnson talk about you and what you've been to their career.
So you can say that you had nothing to do with it, but bits and pieces of who you are still living and breathing in that facility, for sure. Well, shout out to Philadelphia.
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You know this.

You guys were there for the whole week, but you're practicing and your schedule is so

laid out.

You have like maybe two to three hours of the day that you could go do something.

And when you get that time, you're usually not spending it going out.

You're like, all right, I'm going to take this time to do nothing.

This was the first time being in New Orleans where I really got to experience the city because every other time I've been there, it's been for football. And I got to say, I fucking love that city, man.
It was an awesome host city. Las Vegas was great.
It really was. And it was the perfect infrastructure set up the host of Super Bowl.
New Orleans, the perfect vibe, food, mentality, culture.

I mean, it was just unreal.

The issue was the infrastructure is awful.

Like there was going from place to place was a train wreck.

And then at night, for some reason, they have this ordinance that whenever the train's coming

through town, it has to blow its horn every time it's going to a crosswalk.

So you're just hearing a fucking train horn constantly in the middle of the night, which

is annoying as fuck.

But outside of that, it was fantastic.

Thank you. to blow its horn every time it's going to a crosswalk.
So you're just hearing a fucking train horn constantly in the middle of the night,

which is annoying as fuck.

But outside of that, it was fantastic.

It was really good.

Beignets.

Yeah, I was about to say you get some more beignets, some more gumbo or what? I went to Cafe Du Monde, like the original one, which not even just the beignets.

It's the whole vibe of it.

It's got like the little hats and the get up and you're outside.

And it's just a dope vibe a dope vibe you ever been to keys no i don't even know what the rest of it's like keys fried chicken i think it's i'm we're so i went to get my palm read and we were talking we had like all these trendy spots that we were going to hit up after that and after the palm reading they're like oh we are we going to go to eat? And the guy was like, hey, if you want the local experience, you got to go to Keys. I was like, Keys? Like, yeah, it's a gas station that serves fried chicken.
I was like, yeah, that's right up Jason Kelsey's alley. So we went over to this place.
Bro, like, it was similar, not similar, but, like, again, the best barbecue spot, my favorite barbecue spot in Kansas City. Joe's is Joe's.
Like there's something about food being served at a gas station that just is like, yeah, I'm going to check this out. If it's got a good if food at a gas station has some word of the mouth going about it, you know, that shit's good.
So we pull up to this spot. Keys, it's got po boys, fried chicken.
I get up there. This is what made Sheetz and Quick Trip, like the stables that they are in this world.
No doubt. And I get up there and I'm like, all right, let me get some dark meat.
And the guy's like, get the white meat. And I was like, dude, it's too dry.
I don't like white meat. He's like, hey, this white meat ain't dry.
So I got a chicken breast. First bite into that chicken breast, dog.
Dry as shit. Nothing dry about it was so good it was it was and it was the perfect amount of spice where it's not overwhelmingly spicy in that first bite but the more you eat it just like starts engulfing you yeah it gets you going but i got i got the fried chicken i got a hot sausage po'boy which was phenomenal i tried a pineapple soda big shot which i guess is specific to new orleans it was like a pineapple creamsicle it was so fucking good so i was getting a bunch of like a convenience store local spots some some baked good that came in like a tray i forget what that was called but it was it was like a brownie it was fucking real good.
I know. Kylie and I went out to a fancy dinner one night called- Ooh, you fancy son of a bitch.
It was what Peyton recommended. It was Clancy's.
Oh, nice. Yeah.
It was really good. One of the items that they're really recommended for is the fried oysters.
I see. That's the thing.
I'm in on- I'm out on loogies. Yeah, but the fried- A few fried things.
Yeah, it's different. Different experience.
Maybe throw some cheese on there. I don't know if you know this, but there was a, there was an oyster recall while we were down there.
So we didn't eat any of the oysters. All the barstool got sick.
They were all getting the neurovirus from the oysters. It's unfortunate.
So we didn't have any of the oysters and we didn't have any of the oysters at Clancy's, but they had plenty of – I had turtle soup.

That was Cajun-style turtle soup.

It's fucked up, man.

You're eating turtles?

Turtles. Hey, man.

Now that I know what they taste like, I'm going to keep eating them.

It was damn good.

That turtle soup was great.

What do you eat in them?

What do you mean?

Is there – like, do you eat the leg?

What do you eat?

It was so chopped up.

What's in those shells that – I think you eat the – Yeah, I have no idea. I'm not going to lie.
I have no idea what you're eating, but it was great. The turtle soup was fantastic.
I had like a smoked double cut pork chop. They just flip that thing open and you just eat it out of the shell? Like the shell is a bowl? No.
You don't even know it's a turtle. You just see the meat in like the soup kind of cut up.
It's like the shell is a bowl no you don't even know it's a turtle you just see the meat

and like the soup kind of like kind of cup cut up it's like little spoonfuls yeah i'm out very good highly recommend the house salad was great the uh double cup pork chop was phenomenal did you go to any uh super bowl parties or no i went to a new heights party i went to a stapleton concert and then outside of that i just lost all my money at a casino casino is right next door and because i won so much money last year at las vegas got a universe we'll just keep this rolling this would be great yeah didn't work this time yeah so it was back to why i normally don't go to the casino because it's they're just like just handing them money this Tang, flipped 21. I'm like, goddamn, Tang.
Should I just bend over and pull my pants down? Is that where we're at right now? I like my odds. I don't like it when – because then I hate the dealer.
Oh, no. I don't ever take it on the dealer.
Although I did get mad at Tang. I take it on the dealer.
I did get mad at Tang because he let somebody hit on a 14 when he was showing a five, and I was like, Tang, that's a piece of shit move, dog. You can't let that.
You got to ask, like, are you sure? You got to, like, be, you know what I mean? Like, I always tip dealers. Dealers are the best.
But you can't be letting somebody just, like, hit on a 14. You got to double check.
You got to ask, like, are you sure? Like, and point to the five that you're that you're showing you know i mean that's dealer etiquette what if the guy was just feeling it i think that in all honesty the person that hit was a little drunk and he was continually having to correct her and i think he just got tired of but i saw that i saw that happen and i was like that's me the moment that happened i was like

this whole fucking i'm losing all my money right now i get so in i get so impatient having to

quote-unquote play it by the book i don't do anything by the book yeah so it's like for me

to have to do anything but you do some things by the book i don't do anything by the book i'm like

i'm splitting the fuck out of tens every single time i'm doing everything dude i'm doing it all if there's any chance that i could make more money than what i just put down yeah i'm doing it god that's any chance to double split like all of it every i'm doing the side bets every fucking turn oh my god if i'm feeling a lot of low cards coming out at a time at a certain time i'll fucking hit i'll hit on 16 i don't give a shit yeah yeah you do not want to play nobody wants to play blackjack with me we tried roulette you know you've you've turned kylie into a big roulette player i hate you i've turned her? Yeah. You taught her how to play.
She knew how to play when I sat down with her. No, she did not know how to play.
Yes, she did. You taught her.
You said you got to play this way. No, I didn't.
Sit down on the European table and play the outsides. No, no, no.
Yeah kylie learned this when she was taking french when she learned french she learned how to play roulette and then i'm sitting there playing craps and this fucking just dude is sitting down playing the don't pass line killing it just killing it don't it's that vibe that's disgusting i want to kill this guy so bad i hope your your energy right now is ruining my time do you mind putting it on the pass line dude craps but then i kind of like it because i'm like i'm just gonna play just to try and win and he's killing me and then it's like goddamn i might just go live in a casino for a month that might have been to be honest that was a bigger bloodbath than the game was like i know you're frustrated with the eagles chiefs game the craps table with jason kelsey versus this guy even i mean it was even more embarrassing it was i don't know if it can get any more embarrassing than that coolest person you ran into all week coolest the coolest i saw you go past one guy at the game. You did? Who?

The Sandman.

Yes, you did see that. I did see that.
I was kind of in a rush, like hurrying past him, and I almost missed him. And he's like, Jason, it's Adam.
I'm like, yeah, I know you fucking are, Adam Sandler. Are you kidding me? But thank you for stopping me.
Nah, that was dope. It was awesome seeing the Sandman.
Saw Rob McElhinney.

He was in the suite next to us.

Saw Bradley Cooper from a few suites down.

We did a nice wave.

We didn't go over there, but.

BC.

That's my guy right there, man.

Oh, who else did I see?

I saw Scotty Hartnell.

Scotty Hartnell was out there.

Aaron and Carissa saw.

I told you I saw Stapleton.

Chris.

Saw Bert Kreiser. Saw Bussin.
Saw PMT. I just said the coolest person that ever.
Oh, sorry. Yeah, my bad.
Who? Oh, the coolest person I saw was Mike. Michael Cherry Coke.
He was. Let me make sure I get his accolades.
Right. So I went to a U S Naval air base down there.
One of the guys, I met this guy's from Philadelphia at Weaver's orchard. We were picking apples with the girls one off season.
And he's like, Hey, if you're ever in new Orleans, you should stop by the military base. You can, you guys want to do the podcast there or do whatever.
We'd love to have you. And dude, he invited me down.
I got to see like a practice routine with a bunch of jets that went off. They were doing like tactical formations and stuff.
Dude, it was insane. It was absolutely insane.
I got in a flight simulator. How'd you do? I mean, I was coming right off Bourbon Street, so not great.
It was very wobbly flight. Very wobbly flight.
With a joystick. Fuck.
But dude, very disorienting too. Like, like whoa he did not let me land it he was like there's no way you're going to be able to land this so we're just going to move this keep this thing moving what else what else i gotta get down there dude it was so sick honestly it would be great to go back and do a podcast there because those dudes were awesome it's just a great vibe i also just love being around military guys because they're always just like, I don't know, the gems, dude.
What else? Ate a bunch of king cake. Went to the oldest bar running continuously in New Orleans.
It was like something blacksmith. It's been open for like 300 years.
Lafitte's Blacksmith Bar, right? Freaking dope. Super cool spot.
So we got the best. We did a lot.
We did a lot. I think you've officially perfected getting out of the house, Jason.
I'm just as a brother of you and knowing who you've been your entire life. I'm proud.
I'm happy to see this. Thank you.
Thank you very much. I'm happy to see you turn into this and enjoy what the world has to offer.
And shout out to New Orleans, man. I don't have the fondest of memories there, but The Kelsey's have awful luck in New Orleans.
Sugar Bowl. I lost a playoff game here in 2018 after the Super Bowl, well, 2019.
And then obviously this last week. This week, yeah.
But I will say this. I have always enjoyed the random times that I was in New Orleans.
And I have so many, so many friends and teammates that I just fucking love that are from the state of Louisiana, but specifically around the New Orleans area. And I got nothing but love for them.
I'm not gonna lie. I love the culture.
No, it's the best. It's the best going down there for a few bachelor parties in my day and enjoying the music and bar scenes.
And it is a really, really cool place. But for whatever reason, me and football does not thrive there.

Again, shout out to New Orleans.

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That's thefarmersdog.com slash new heights. One thing that Travis and I didn't get to do while the game was happening, because we were both there and watching it, is we didn't get to see the best commercials.
I mean, that's the one thing that everybody is so synonymous with the Super Bowl. It's, you know, what are the best ads of the year? And there was one that we wanted to highlight.

But there was a Nike ad. It's the first Super Bowl ad in 27 years and featured a load of female athletes, including, I mean, one of the biggest episodes we've ever done, and Caitlin Clark.

I love Nike commercials.

I've been a huge fan of Caitlin Clark since she's been in college, obviously through the Olympics. Sha'Carri Richardson.
Yep. You can't win, so win.
Yeah. Speaking of all the things they say women can't do.
Yeah. If there's one thing I can firmly get on board with is telling a bunch of people who think you can't do something to shove it.
I'm all board with that that's a great message by nike i'm with that as well with some incredible athletes a bunch of familiar faces yeah gold many gold medal winners freaking champions nike thank you for uh such a powerful message on on the biggest stage uh you know obviously everybody watches those uh super bowl commercials to see uh what messages are sent and n Nike's sending one of the best ones of this year. So, and shout out to Caitlin.
Killing it. Getting in a dope-ass Nike commercial, man.
Gosh. Gotta love it.
That's another thing that's nostalgic. Being like the face of Nike.
Yeah. Right? And it also being Nike's.
Well, Jordan was the face of Jordan, I guess, but Tiger. I mean, he was originally the face of Nike.
Right. So you got Jordan, you got Tiger, LeBron.
There's somebody in between those, but. I mean, Griffey.
Griffey. Kobe.
Wayne. Wayne Gretzky.
Shout out to Nike for jumping in on the Super Bowl commercials, coming with one that actually had a very, very meaningful message to it, to all the young woman athletes out there. Yeah, absolutely.
I'll always be Team Nike. All righty.
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I actually saw this tweet and thought it was hilarious as a no-dumb question. So, this was in response to the statement I released saying that I love and care about you more than anyone else.
More than anyone? Yeah. Right.
And this question, this was a prompt underneath that response of basically saying that it's ridiculous that I would say that I love you more than Kyle and the girls, which I love you the same, but we're going to read this question. I don't love anybody more.
I love you the same. You don't have to.
It's effective. You think I give a fuck about, this is so funny.
I know you're. We're going to read this question.
Go ahead. If you had to push Travis or your wife over a cliff, who would you choose? You must choose one.
Don't skirt the question, Jason. You said you love no one more than Travis.
Who are you? So are you pushing your wife over? Here's my answer. And tell me if I'm correct.
Should I answer first? Or do you want to answer first? This question is for you. Okay.
I'm pushing Travis over because he would tell me to push him over the cliff. 100%.
Bam, baby. Don't you fucking push Kylie off the fucking cliff.
Are you kidding me? I'll be just fine. All right.
I'll tuck and roll. I'll fucking hit the ground and fucking roll out of that fucking thing.
I'll find a way out of it. I'll flank away to safety.
I don't know how the fuck I'll do it. I'll fucking sprawl out like a flying squirrel or some shit.
I'll be fine. I'll figure some shit out.
But Chris Farley in American Heroes, this, is that the movie? Dude, oh my God. Now that's a deep cut right there.
I love that fucking scene. Is that what that movie, I think it was American Heroes, right? Yeah.
Something like that. Some heroes.
I think it was American Heroes. Yeah, yeah they were fucking they were racing fucking lewis and clark to the west yeah ah that's funny should we keep reimagining this question no i think you answered it yeah you all right if if it's if you had to push if you had to push me or mom over a cliff, who would you choose?

You must choose one.

Don't skirt the question.

Don't skirt the question, Travis.

Mom's like 70.

You have kids that need to be raised.

God damn it.

Don't skirt the question, Travis.

You got to choose one.

I'm going to choose mom because you would want me to push mom. Oh, my God.
Oh, man. I think I wouldn't push either of you.
I jump off. That's what I might.
When I first read this question, I thought the exact same thing.

I'd just jump off of the cliff.

But I don't think it works like that.

In this hypothetical, you can't end.

I think the answer, dude, you got to push me.

This is the code of being a man.

When the lifeboats are getting loaded, the women and children go first.

Yeah.

Touche.

You got to push me.

But I think mom would jump off.

That's what I think. She's not on here to vouch.
But I knowche. You got to push me.
Yep. But I think mom would jump off.
That's what I think.

She's not on here to vouch, but I know that if it was me versus any of my siblings, I'm

jumping off the fucking cliff.

You don't even got to push me.

Well, unless that's not allowed, then I'll tell you to push me.

I'll give you the nod.

And if you're not allowed to say it, I'll just go like this.

For future reference, if we're ever in this scenario.

Just a little.

And we're not allowed to.

We're taped.

Speak.

If I just go like this, me right off the cliff you're fucking hilarious nice just in case we ever get caught in that just in case we ever get caught in this ridiculous hypothetical situation push me thank you mr mr j danger thank you for using X responsibly. Next one, no dumb questions.
Hashtag, do you put the cereal first or the milk first? Do I put the cereal first or the milk first? And this is why we have this fucking segment in here as no dumb questions. This is about as stupid of a question as I've ever heard.
Everyone knows the cereal goes in first. Be careful, Trey.
Be careful what you say. Everyone knows the cereal goes in first.
You have to lather up all the cereal. Trey, I'm on the same page with you.
You don't just pour it in one part of the bowl either. You pour it over the top, and you get everything covered in milk.
I'm 100% with you. There's no logical reason to pour the cereal second, but for some reason, Kylie pours a cereal second.
What? And it's never made sense to me. I don't know why.
I mean, in no other situation where a solid goes into a liquid, would you ever put the solid in second? Like it's just asking for a disaster to happen. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
Like you don't fill a glass up to the brim and then start loading ice cubes in that motherfucker. You're going to get water all over the place.
What are we doing here? Yeah. But Kylie does do it that way.
That doesn't make any sense. And I usually don't say anything because it's none of my business, even though I think it's ridiculous.
It's not the argument to start. And also, it doesn't make it taste better.
Like, if you just like dry cereal, what do you put in the milk anywhere with it? Like, there's a reason you put the milk in second because it kind of gets the cereal to the perfect consistency of moistness. Thank you.
Yeah. Nice.
So, Kyle, you're wrong on this one. one i'll go to and i'm pretty sure if we put a poll out you'd be in the bottom eight percent of the 92 well there's only one way to find out 92 percenters hey we will have a poll so let us know if uh us or kylie are in the right next no dumb question what do we got? Okay.
But okay. From at notorious RBG.
Okay. But speaking of loyalty issues, what about this? It's 10 years from now, you both retired and our beloved Browns inexplicably have made it to the Superbowl versus the Chiefs and Eagles.
Ooh. 10 years from now? Who are we rooting for? That's a good question.
Initially, I would say that i wouldn't even think about cheering for the browns yeah but i do still have that childhood cleveland sports fan fandom in me yeah for sure and to see you know how the situation over there in cleveland has been since i've been in the league yeah it's been rough. What do you mean since you've been in the league? Since they've come back? I mean, the Tim Couch era wasn't horrible.
And they made it to the playoffs. It wasn't the best.
I just feel like the organization wasn't looked at the way they looked at right now. Sure.
And, uh, right now it's pretty rough. Yep.
And, uh, I think, uh, I think Cleveland deserves to, to get, you know, a year in year out, you know, respectable and great product out there on the field. Now, don't get me wrong.
Flacco leading them to the playoffs and, and, and, you know, giving them some fun to cheer for, uh, last year as a Cinderella story. I mean, that was, I, I enjoyed,, I enjoyed talking to my friends about that one.
One, because it's easy to cheer for a guy like Flacco. What I'm trying to say is there will be the kid in me that cheers for the Browns.
But if there's anybody still left from the run that we've had here in Kansas City, I would probably say I hope for the best for them. Yeah, I'm going to go Eagles.
I've already learned my lesson. I'm not touching the Browns for a second.
They already think I don't want root for them for some reason. If it's anybody other than the Chiefs and Eagles, I'm going Browns.
I mean, that's what it comes out. They're the next team, but we've both spent a lot of time and energy personally with both of these franchises,

I don't think, at this point.

Browns versus Chiefs, maybe.

But Browns versus Eagles, now I'm going Eagles.

Yeah.

I'm going – I could say the same.

Browns versus Chiefs, I'm going Chiefs.

Browns versus Eagles, I'll go Browns.

They're probably fourth behind whatever team you're coaching for.

Shout out to Andy for dropping that knowledge on us at Trav.

Coach Trav has a future.

Coach Trav.

Coach Trav.

Thank you. for dropping that knowledge on us at Trav.
Coach Trav has a future. Coach Trav.
Coach Trav. Yeah.
Would you go by Coach Trav or Coach Kelsey? Coach Kelsey sounds way better. I like Coach Trav.
I don't know what it is. Does it? All right, fair enough.
Coach Kelsey. I think just Kelsey, not even Kelsey.
God damn it. Don't do this again.
You'd be Coach Kelsey. And you'd be like, don't call me Coach Kelsey, you motherfuckers.
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How about it, man? Another year under the belt or another season under the belt, I should say. I appreciate you guys always working through the scheduling and making it easy on me and Jason, knowing

that the football world's so crazy. So thank you

guys over at Wave

and Wondry, and thank you to the 92

Percenters for tuning in, Chiefs Kingdom.

Once again, I'm sorry for this year

and how it ended, but I've

loved every minute of playing for you

guys all season, and

I appreciate you guys always showing up.

And to those Eagles fans that are 92%ers as well, congratulations, man.

You guys had a hell of a team this year.

And there goes some fun merch for you guys to buy if you guys want it. Peace.
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