Travis Goes Back to the Super Bowl, Jason Decides Who to Root For and Living The Suite Life | Ep 122

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and follow the show on all social media at new heights show with one s uh jason tell the people what we got coming up this episode we've got an incredible episode coming up not sure if you guys heard but new heights is going back to the super bowl three years in a row now well three years in row for travisvis yeah we have never been more back we're going to recap all of championship sunday figure out who i'm rooting for if we can't tell who you're rooting for jason what are you talking about unbelievable this is just what i'm wearing around the house is i just have a lot of eagles gear oh yes i mean it makes sense how dope sense. How dope is this? You live in Philadelphia.
This is a sweet sweater.

I like it.

I like it a lot.

That's why I wore it, because I knew you liked the sweater.

It's nice.

It's nice.

I'm always thinking about Trav.

If you wear shit like that, I can't get mad.

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Oh, nice. I got two? There's an award for just showing up and having a fucking good time? Jason, don't be mad because you're not in it.
All right? Well, that's because I don't surprise. I didn't have any surprise guests.
You got to surprise the people, Jason. I'll fucking surprise the people.
All right, this is a fan vote. So let's go ahead and congratulate Travis and Taylor.
Up against Selena Gomez, Cher. This is a fan vote.
Up against Selena Gomez, Cher, Chappelle Roan, the Twisters cast, and more. Ch the twisters cast and yeah i'm sorry to all those

people i just named because you don't stand a fucking chance all right shout out to selena and shout out to share man i tell you what i fucking the one song man will be forever one of my favorite songs. Which one?

Do you believe in

love?

It's so good, man.

I remember watching that music video as a kid. I'm just like, damn, I'm just stuck in the vortex.
I really don't think you're strong enough, no. Okay, I hear you running.
I can't go up that high. Yeah, I used to.
Not anymore. Do you believe in love after love? Nice.
We're playing some bangers already. I like where this is going.
That's what I went still in my fucking head. All right.
Well, thank you for the nomination, iHeart. I had a blast surprising everyone over there in London.
And definitely Arrowhead always gets rocking. Whenever you got Pat Mahomes, Chris Jones, and myself in there running around.
What are you doing? After love, after love, after love, after love, after love, after love. How hard you try.
This is the fucking song of Super Bowl 59, baby. Eagles fucking cheese.
Do you believe it? I'm fucking so into this right now. I'm laughing.
The fact that you went full chair. God damn, this is good.
I'm so happy you just brought this up. Dude, it's so good.
Go ahead. Take it over, Jason.
Oh. Do you believe in love after love? Yeah! I can feel something inside the sand.

I really don't think you're strong enough.

No.

Oh, my God.

Dude, I am playing that on repeat all fucking week.

This is what the Super Bowl does to people.

Just puts you in a good mood, man.

Anytime somebody asks me who I'm rooting for, I'm going to say I'm rooting for Cher. Oh, man.
All right. Well, Cher just won the iHeartRadio nomination for that one.
That was a surprise. There's no chance we'll be able to play that in the actual episode, but it'll make a fun social clip.
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Ready? Chiefs 32, Bills 29. Man, it was a barn burner.
And the Chiefs are headed back to the Super Bowl for their third straight year going for the three p travis yes sir how we feeling i'm feeling great man life is amazing life is amazing i uh i mean i just it's it's a crazy feeling to to be this fortunate in a game that you know you've been playing your entire life man and i've had a lot of heartbreak i've had a lot of times where it hasn't been this sweet and right now i'm just riding the high of uh of living this dream out with my brothers and uh and everybody in kansas city man for sure well you got all the talk has been about the three p but did you know you've already set the record you can set it more by getting the three p to accomplish which is obviously the main goal for the chiefs i don't goddamn record. I won a Super Bowl this year.
I'm just saying, you guys are the first team ever to win back-to-back Super Bowls and then make it back in year three. So you've already accomplished something more than any other team has done in consecutive seasons.
But if you cinch it, you'll be the first team ever, of course, to win three in a row. How are you guys dealing with the three-peat talk internally? I mean, we're obviously not – Talking about it nonstop? Yeah, every day.
It's just, you know, I look at Pat every single day. We're like, no, we don't talk about it at all.
We're more focused on, you know – Andy breaks down everything. He's like, guys, I was going to come up here and talk about turnovers and staying in the moment and really focusing in on details and making sure you let your personality show.
But, fuck, I'm just going to say what everybody else is thinking. We have a chance to win three in a row, guys.
We can do this. That's all we should be focused on is that record.
It hasn't been mentioned one time outside of being asked about it in the media. Everybody in the building is just focused on, you know, doing their job we got here.
That's how we got the first one. That's how we got the second one.
It's the only way you win football games and get to the Super Bowl is if you focus on the task at hand. For sure.
And we got a huge task coming up. And, man, it's going to be electric.
It's going to be absolutely electric. We know Philly's got the sour taste in their mouth from the last one.
You know that. And they're a hell of a fucking football team, man.
This will be the best team we play all year. Well, we got a couple notes on the game itself.
Rookie Xavier Worthy, back to this Bills game, had a huge game. I mean, his biggest game of his career, not a bad time to put that up in the AFC Championship.
X, man. He's just been slowly getting better, man.
He bought into the process, to the challenge that Coach Reed has for him, that this offense has for him to not just be that, you know. I feel like when he got drafted, everyone's like, man, it's going to be bombs over Baghdad.
Pat's going to be throwing that thing 100 yards down the field,

and Xavier's just going to be running underneath it.

You know, he's got the straight line speed,

but he's so much more than just like a straight line receiver.

He can run routes.

He gets the ball in his hands.

He can split defenders.

He runs hard.

I mean, he's the total package when you think of a wide receiver.

He can play outside.

He can play inside.

And you can do some of the gadget stuff with him that you can't do with everyone. That's what I saw.
And it wasn't really gadget plays. I mean, they had a couple of gadget plays.
But it felt like the big thing to me watching is like, you know, I think what teams are kind of trying to do to you guys, man it up, right? And if you want to play man against this guy with all these mesh concepts and crossers with how fast he is that's just going to be a tough matchup for anybody to get down especially when he's timing everything up as well as he did this past week oh yeah it's been fun watching him progress each step of the way i feel i mean it's his first career 100 plus yard receiving game i guess 100 yards scrimmage yeah because some of those 80 80 or 85, which was the most he had in the game yet, which is crazy to me. And there are a lot of big – he had that big third down catch.
I mean, it was a huge part of the game plan and helped the Chiefs keep multiple drives going. Fourth down blitz, maybe the biggest play of the game.
Fourth and five under two minutes. Spags dials up.
The same thing it does always in crucial situations. You know you're going're going to get it you don't know when is he going to come on fourth down and come on third down you don't know where it's coming mixes it up enough but i always felt like when i played spags in with the giants or when i played him with the eagles if you get into a crucial situation he is not going to be one of these coordinators he just sits back and plays soft coverage and lets you annihilate him.
He is going to mix it up, and you're going to get a cover zero or some very big pressure, either a fire zone, whatever. He's going to find a way to get pressure on you and make you make a play.
And it was a beautifully designed and timed up blitz. That thing was on Josh so fast.
It was. And credit to Josh.
I mean, he almost made this play. It's actually crazy that this thing almost got completed, if you think about it.
I got Dalton Kincaid. He's going to be a stud in this league for such a long time.
I'm talking about Dalton, and he's, I mean, back-to-back weeks, man, my tight ends, man. Those are my guys right there, man.
That shit hurts. Dude, this is the same freaking package Spags used to do in New York.
You put the free safety down, and you got to guess, are they bringing free safety in the will, or are they bringing it from the field, and it's so hard. He'll also drop and rush three.
He does so much stuff out of this. It is so hard to get a beat on it.
I always think the hardest blitzes to pick up are those fucking corner blitzes, man. If you can show, because you're a cover two team team when you can just show that you know i mean you're playing a zone coverage you can bring the corner man that throws everybody off man you just either got to know where your hots are you got to be a you know a savvy enough qb to find some time and and give yourself a chance like josh did and this is what you run the risk of when you run those cram alignments because i bet if that's a out split receiver it is going to be the safety down there because this is a good point that you bring up because that actually is the corner and it's a lot harder to see when the corner adds on you usually don't include him in it but when you have those nasty alignments the corner and the safety a lot of times will switch responsibilities so yeah you take it that's why we uh that's why we love spags and that's why i love, man.
They play so fucking well together. They force guys to have to make plays instead of just kind of, you know, playing guys straight up and playing these zones that, you know, a lot of coaches just are – I don't want to say they're stubborn in their ways, but they have their styles of how they play defense.
And you either got to have the guys that communicate well or you just got to have guys that play balls to the walls, man. That's what our defense does, man.
They just fly around and make plays, man. And I do got to say, I mean, Kincaid had a chance to catch this thing.
That's not the easiest ball. That thing was curving away from him.
When that thing goes up like that and you can tell by the way it was coming down, it's coming down funky funky he's trying to track it and just couldn't come away with it but man almost a ridiculous i mean this would have been the play of the year if he pulled this off so shout out to spags for mixing it up and causing that play to really happen on fourth down oh yeah and that was a difference i mean last time you guys played these guys, Josh made the play on fourth down with the quarterback run, right?

And that ended up sealing it.

We were doing the top ten plays.

That was number one right there.

Well, I mean, for the game, to be able to do that, that was a huge play.

Yeah, during the season, that was a hell of a play by Josh right there, man.

Yeah.

Well, this time Spags gets the better of the Bills on fourth down. Mahomes, Spike, what the hell? hell i mean he can throw the ball anywhere on the field but he can't throw it directly into the ground is that what we're talking about i think when you i think when you get in the end zone like this by travis slav i called it out in the middle of the game travis slav with an awesome block on the perimeter i didn't know if pat handed it off or not because it was a read.
So I wasn't sure if I was going to take the guy from the inside, the linebacker from the inside, or if I was just going to – if Pat was on my, like, tail, if he was trailing me enough, I knew the inside guy, Milano, at this point, wasn't going to be able to make the play initially. Once I kind of felt everybody running towards me, I was like, oh, shit, Pat's's right behind me this is why i got so proud of you because this block is so hard so many guys i talk about this with offensive lineman all the time if you get too far out in the front of the runner right like if you would have made that decision to go get milano he's not getting in you play it smart you stay in good phase with pat until you know okay now he's he if he can't tackle me, he ain't going to be able to tackle Pat.
So I'm going to keep on my course and climb, and you end up sneaking out the touchdown. Awesome play.
And then here's a spike. I'll tell you what, man.
We put that play in the game plan this week. I was like, that's going to fucking hit.
You knew it? I knew it right away, dude. We'd never ran that play before we never gave uh pat the full ability to just like keep it on the run yeah like you get two guys pulling for the back you get two guys pulling for pat and it's like the line the line has to i mean the linebackers have to make a decision that dn has to make a decision on who he's taken and we ran it before kareem scores for the touchdown because everyone's running with me, Noah, and Pat.
And this time they hesitate trying to read it out and we're out the gate before they can even adjust to it. I get it.
Go back. I just love the way you hold on it too.
I really think that's just such an underrated. Like pause it right there.
You got to make that decision. And once you see those guys break towards you, that's when you know.
And at the angle they were running, I was like, all right, I know Milano isn't going to be able to get it in 24. If I can get him over by the goal line, I think we can find a way in.
This is a great block by Noah Gray as well. Yeah, everybody does a great job.
Noah does a great job on the nickel. And freaking, this is like teach tape.
The Howard Mudd, when I was a rookie, he would say, when those guys drop off into their zones, don't go and chase them. Stay in phase with the running back, and you'll know based on when they break, when he has the ball, who has the ball, and where they're going.
You know what I mean? And it's just textbook. Anyways, great play by the Chiefs.
Getting it done there. Terrible spike by

Pat. I mean...
Pat said it

during the week, too. He's like, man,

that was hilarious. You can tell

he's just fired up. Sometimes when you get in the end zone, you're

just fired up. You don't care what happens to the football,

man.

Put the team on his back. Second

rushing touchdown of the game. You kidding me, man?

And we're going for two?

Fire me up, man. Arrowhead was absolutely fucking rocking, man.
God damn, man. The AFC Championship at Arrowhead, man.
Something special about it, dog. It is.
It is so awesome every time I get to go out there. Playoff football there is a beautiful thing, man.
But those AFC Championship games, man, it's like a fucking holiday that I'll remember for the rest of my life man well my homes apologized for his uh awful attempt at spiking the ball he said that's why i don't try to spike the ball he is now he now has the second most playoff wins in nfl history behind only tom brady he does have a ways to go to catch tom he's got an entire uh 17 more actually Yeah, he's more than twice ahead of him still, which is crazy. It's always fun looking at these career statistics from a Holmes and realizing he's not even into the second half of his career, most likely, as long as everything stays on the right track.
It's insane, man. We've also got a new Travis Postgame song.
Oh, yeah.

Casey and the Sunshine Band, baby.

Was it not Cher?

No, it wasn't.

It wasn't.

Just do a little dance.

Make a little love.

Get down tonight.

They were playing that song right before we went up on the podium. So I knew that.
And I heard the crowd singing it so i was like all right i'm gonna keep it going i'm gonna get

them fired up one more time can't go wrong with it it's always been beastie boys but i kind of

like to change up you got to mix it up when you when you're there that often you got to mix it up

all right you got to mix it up regardless do you guys enjoy being the villains of the nfl i love it

yeah i love it at one point at one point in time time, it wasn't that. You guys were the darling of the NFL.
Yeah, I was the, do you feel bad for him, guys? You're now the heel. I'm just, I'm enjoying doing this with the guys together, the guys that we have in there because it's like it just makes us even more of a family you just circle the wagons when shit you know people are saying whatever they want and you just band it together and it just makes you more appreciate more of what you have because people want what you have this is how i feel like how dominant you guys are football i feel like this when i play beer ball i just know everybody wants me to lose but i'm not going to lose.
I refuse to lose a beer ball. And the whole crowd is like, God, this guy just keeps chugging beers way faster than everybody and winning because he can hit the ping pong ball so well under the beer can.
And I feel the same way and I relish it. Whenever I'm on that beer ball table, I know everybody wants me to lose.
And I'm just like, I know damn well, i'm about to whoop the fuck out of everybody here and make all these people ruin their day i just relish in that it's also the most unregulated game there has ever been and jason knows how to bend the rules i've been the rules and regulated games so if you give me an unregulated game i'm gonna be pushing even more. You got to have officials out there with Jason Kelsey.
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Let's move on to the other game. the other game congratulations though trav um it was awesome being out there with you it was awesome being with the team after the game and seeing guys and got to see my man trey smith and talk to him for i got so much respect for his game i love watching the way he plays um so it was great it was good being out there and happy to watch you guys make history and look to make more history.
You know it, baby. Let's talk a little Eagles football.
Yeah, baby. Shellacking over there in Philly.
I know the Birds fans were going nuts. Yeah, for sure.
55 to 23, the third time you play a team, you guys split it in the season. And sure enough, you guys win the split by a lot.
I mean, putting up a 50-burger in the playoffs is unbelievable. For sure.
I mean, especially against a good defense, man. Can't turn the ball over, man.
How do we feel about the birds, though, man? I wasn't able to watch the game because I was going to yours. That was the biggest thing I was with all week do i go to travis's game do i stay in philly do i because part of me and kyle even brought up he's like you know if you stay in philly and they win you can go to broad street which is something i never i always wanted to experience the last time we were making runs like there's just the videos you see of everybody out on broad street and how much the fans and city go crazy is just so electric.
It's crazy, yeah. But ultimately, I wanted to be out there for you.
We were actually in the plane getting updates from the pilots. We had watched already the commanders go down and get a field goal, right? But the D looked pretty good, and they held them to three.
And then you go go up there and the very first run, I mean, Saquon dashes right through Jordan. I'm a lot of blocked, like a defensive back into four people tripped up Bobby Wagner and a whole bunch of people.
And then Saquon broke like four tackles. I'm like, Oh, these dudes about to beat the brakes off these guys.
I don't even need to. This is about to be over quick.
They're like monsters to their credit. It wasn't over.
Yeah, this was the first one. Insane.
I mean, dude. One, two.
Some of the worst tackling I've ever seen. I mean, you can say it's bad tackling, but I mean, the guy is so slippery and fast and strong.
He's like some of those guys that are just like they're built like fucking boulders and he you know he squats the house say quad and he's just it's easy to say you can just go up and tackle him if you got good form and it's like that's not that's not as easy as it seems when a guy's moving as fast as he is and a guy's as strong as he is and the guy that can just like stay balanced he can spin off you he can fucking jump over you you got to be ready for it all and man that run fucking showed it and we were up in the air and they were giving us i asked the pilots like hey give us score updates radio down to the tower whatnot that's so fucking it was fucking electric we were going crazy back there because they scored that touchdown i was like oh this is about to be they're about to blow the brakes off these dudes yeah that's a hell of a play to fight yeah i'm like that's a dagger of a play close if they run the ball like that on the first play this is gonna be a long day after the leg was probably the next the next score erupted like a volcano after that fucking touchdown dude the next score update we got it was 14-6 i'm like yeah okay there we go they're still they're still moving the ball there we go love to hear it then we got, it was 14-6. I'm like, yeah, okay, there we go.
They're still moving the ball. There we go.
Love to hear it. Then we got 14-12.
And I was like, oh, crap. This is, all right, all right, they're starting to come back a little bit.
And then the next update was like 27-12. I was like, okay, this thing's done.
They're freaking. And that really was the turning point.
Like, Jaden Daniels still played a hell of a game. When you go back and watch it like like jayden daniel still played really well the commanders did a lot of things well but that three series sequence of like eagle score kickoff fumble recovery score right going into half that was when it was like okay this is going to be really hard for the commanders to come back from now especially with a run game like that and the way the eagles were just controlling the controlling the clock i mean huge shout out to uh dan quinn i mean this team was to turn this around this quick within a year i just thought it was such a testament to obviously how good jayden daniels is but also how great of a coach dan quinn was to get all these guys rallied, this team felt like it had been like as a team that has been through it for a long time, they were tough.
They played hard. They played physical all season long.
And I know they are probably still upset. They lost the game, but I mean, when you take a step back and think about where they were a year ago and how good they were this year.
I mean,

amazing accomplishment.

It's promising for sure.

Yeah.

Unfortunately for Eagles fans,

this is going to be something that's going to be a pain in the ass for a

while over there with Jane Daniels and the,

the Dan Quinn commanders.

Yeah.

The commander,

Dan Quinn.

Yeah.

We'll,

we'll also see if,

you know,

there's,

there's been a lot,

a lot of quarterbacks that have one really good year as their first year. That's true.
We'll see. Jaden, that's a challenge to you, brother.
I want to see it. I know I want to see it.
I'm a fan. Yeah, Jason, you officially pulled off the Donna Kelsey.
How about it, man? Keep it in the family. Go to an Eagles and Chiefs game in the playoffs in one fucking day.
But you did it on Championship Sunday, which is cool. I did get to see everybody before the game, which was awesome.
Nice. You know, I got to interview Nick Sirianni.
I got to see Stout and Dom and Lane and all the guys I got to watch go out on the field and, you know, at least dap them up. Yeah, I was about to say, all the guys that you went to the Super Bowl with or won the Super Bowl with, and Shady was there.
Dude, you could see the look in those guys' eyes too. These dudes were so focused and ready to do something.
Nice. The intensity, that's what I love about playoff football.
And I'm sure the commanders are the same way. Like, the intensity was palpable.
You could tell how much everybody was ready to get something done and uh just i miss i miss being a part of that for sure man i love that shit when everybody's just dialed in and they just got that dog look at them they got that feel of like i'm fine i'm not scared of a goddamn thing man we're gonna go in here we're gonna fight for sure fight to the finish i love that fucking feeling man um well jason we have to ask in your famous words uh we gotta ask as a retired eagle how does it feel that your team has gotten back to the super bowl brother as a retired eagle i'm immensely happy for these guys i got to watch a bunch of guys that like are really really close to me and have been more pivotal, either coaches or players and teammates, staff. I got to watch a lot of people win a monumentally huge game and not similar to the commanders, but the way last season ended for this group of players and coaches and the teams are different, obviously.

No two teams are the same every year.

It's always got slight differences.

Always.

But there's a lot of similarities.

Nick Sirianni was fighting a lot of nonsense all offseason, right?

And I just think so – I'm just so incredibly happy and proud that these guys have persevered and stuck together, got it done,

and find themselves back in the Super Bowl just two years being removed from the last time we were there. Very happy for all these guys.
Well, I got a lot of love for a lot of the players and coaches over there just being your fucking brother, man. So we know it's going to be our hardest fucking test.
That's I'm sure. I mean, this is how it goes.

The two teams in the Super Bowl, go figure.

They're going to be well matched up.

You know, we run the ball extremely well.

Spags is probably the best coordinator I ever played.

At least one of the best coordinators I ever played against in terms of it stopping the run.

Like, he's going to have some front style up.

He's going to be stacking the line of scrimmage.

He's going to make the Eagles uncomfortable at times.

And the Eagles, I mean, that was another thing.

I'm just so happy for Jalen Hurts to have that game right there

heading into the Super Bowl because he's coming off the concussion

and some extended period of time not playing for that first playoff game.

Then the second playoff game, it's a freaking blizzard.

So the passing yards were down the first two weeks of the postseason.

Then he goes out and has a game like this, plays unbelievably well, throws – I mean, it might have been one of his best games of the season. And it happened in probably the most meaningful game.
So – not probably, the most meaningful game. So all the stuff that you could want to go right went right in this one for the Eagles, and it's a hell of a momentum to take into the Super Bowl.
Was it over when they the washington gear on uh the rocky statue or what dude i love it whenever i see a team do it i'm like all right y'all playing with fire the ghost of rock is about i'm fully i'm fully aware of the fact that it happens every single meaningful game i don't think it's the other team doing it at this point you think the eagles are doing it 100 i mean i like iconically they put the chief's gear on the statue last time that was chief's gear it was like a red shirt that said chief's on it is that what it was i don't remember they like they like wrote chiefs in like sharpies it's it's gotta be phil it's gotta be i can get behind this is a conspiracy. There's just firing up the entire city, getting, getting it nice and rowdy.
Well, we learned about a new NFL rule in the game that, uh, the palpably unfair act rule. Yeah.
I actually already knew this rule. I didn't know that that's what it was called.
I love it. I don't get it.
What? I don't, I didn't, I missed this. So they jumped off sides four times.
Sounds silly. I mean, it was crazy.
They just kept jumping over. Yeah, we kept going hard cadence.
Well, yeah, but if you continually jump, at some point, they award you the score. I like it.
I like that idea. I think it's absolutely ridiculous.
No, it's fantastic. Just snap the ball.
No. Just snap the ball, dude.
What are we doing? Stop fucking cheating. Stop cheating.
Why are we are we trying to get closer we're not trying to get closer we're trying to stop this guy from jumping over and headbutting our quarterback on a quarterback sneak so maybe stop jumping over the pile how about that time it up better bud yeah he does but if you don't time it up better i think after that many times you should get points because at some point what they can just do whatever they want you're you're right. Once you're backed up so far, like what is the, I don't know.
No, I get it. Here's what I do know.
Landon Dickerson and Cam Juergens are two of the toughest motherfuckers I've ever seen play football. What happened with that situation? So Cam's back was all screwed up all week.
Landon Dickerson was tough as hell, tried to push through his knee deal. Then Cam Juergens had to go in after dealing with the back injury

and ends up finding a way to get it done.

I don't know how he did it, but he found a way to get it done.

Swapping centers like that is, I mean, that's a crazy deal.

If it happens in KC, I know like we're not just like,

outside of like the QB center exchange before practices,

like QBs aren't just like taking the snap from the second string guys. You know what I mean? Of course.
Yeah, and I think that that's where they had the benefit. Landon played all week at center because Cam was trying to get healthy.
So they had tons of reps to get that center exchange down. And then Cam and Jalen have been center and quarterback for the whole year.
So they got tons of reps together. I think if they would have had to go to like a third string guy that they had never worked with, that's when it starts to like, oh, wow, this could really, who knows how this is going to turn out.
Yeah. No, I think that those guys have both played a lot for the Eagles.
Even when Landon's at guard, he thinks like a center. Landon has the mind of a center.
So he always is communicating. He sees the game very similarly.
For Landon, it was probably pretty easy from a mental standpoint to go in there, even though he was hobbled with the knee eventually. And then Cam going back in there, I think that was just like, can this guy function? Which he clearly was able to.
How many times did Eagles fans yell at you to put the pads back on for what? Just come on. Just put them back on.
There's a lot of tweets. There's a lot of tweets.
I appreciate them. Nice.
I don't know what else to say. Well, yeah, I guess I can't.
I feel like we kind of already talked about who you're rooting for you're rooting for yeah a little bit we didn't really touch here's the biggest thing obviously you're my brother i always root for my brother that's the reality of it all right even though i'm decked out in eagles gear i'm always going to root for travis take that philly but what yeah but um there's a lot of people in the Philadelphia organization,

whether it's players, coaches, people in the building,

that feel like extended family to me, especially my former lineman.

Like Lane Johnson feels like a brother in a lot of ways.

And I'm rooting for those guys too.

I'm rooting for Philadelphia and I'm rooting for Travis Kelsey.

That's the reality of it.

No matter what on game day, I'm going to be happy for one of those sides. And I'm going to be sad for the other side.
Yeah, I was about to say it'd be mixed emotions, man. Yeah, and it's similar to the last time we played.
I mean, maybe a little bit less intense because I'm not playing now, but I think it's going to be very, very similar. I really do.
I live iniladelphia i still go to the facilities on a very regular basis i still feel like i am a philadelphia eagle and that i'm a part of all of these people that root and cheer on our team so i would be lying if i didn't say if i i'd be lying if i said i wasn't going to be very happy if the chiefs or if the eagles i'm trying to I'm saying like double negatives right now trying to get this right I would be lying if I said I don't want the Eagles to win you know I mean I want them to but I also want Travis Kelsey to win so that's a long winded way of saying I just want to see a good football game and whoever wins I'm going to be happy for that guy you heard it here first folks he wants Jason he wants Travis Kelsey to win. We need to get you a mom jacket, a mom jacket, a jersey.
We need to get one. Get the Donna Kelsey jersey? Yeah, we got to get a cut and sew action here where we can get you cheering for both teams like mom's done year in, year out.
I can't wear red. I can't wear it.
I can't bring myself to it. What about like Bearcat red? That's what Kylie does, but I don't even think she's going be doing that this time around kylie i'm gonna wear my new heights big yeti shirt is it in red or is in yellow the yeti shirt this is the red one or the one that's in yellow i don't know oh it's in chief's red okay so i won't be wearing the big yeti shirt i'll wear the yellow one i have the big yeti yellow one i'll have'll have, I'll wear that.
Just wear a New Heights shirt, man. That way I know.
That's a good idea. There you go.
There you go. Wear one of the new merch.
New Heights. All right.
Let's take a look at Broad Street for some of the best of Eagles fans celebrations, because we always know Broad Street's going to get fucking nuts when Philadelphia sports teams punch their ticket into the championship, man. For sure.
The pole climbing reading Inter Excellence is fucking hilarious. Goddamn Philly gets it, man.
It's a fun city. It is a fun city.
Check him out. Give me the book.
Give me the book. Yeah.
Yeah. Now that's Inter Excellence right right there i couldn't be more happy of all the positive mental just like therapy that aj brown has brought to the city of philadelphia so many people are going to be reading this self-help book pre-game uh walking cart smoker pre-game walking cart smoker oh that's fucking hilarious this guy smoking some ribs that's fucking hilarious there's a pig's head on there go back to that was that pig's head on the cart it was a whole fucking pig he's literally he's literally jesus that's amazing oh that's funny underneath it nice all right that's fucking that's hilarious six Twisted T underneath it.
Nice.

That's hilarious.

Six-year-old arrested climbing a pole.

Let's see that one.

You can't arrest a six-year-old.

That's not real.

Can't go up, Pat.

Oh, no.

Can't do it, son. Can't do it, son.

Can't do it.

That's actually hilarious.

Even the police were having fun with the craziness that is Broad Street

after an NFC Championship win, man.

Is New Orleans, Louisiana ready for Eagles fans, man?

Not if they win.

I mean, New Orleans has seen some rowdy stuff just in general.

Like, that's a rowdy town.

They're ready to party at any time.

Oh, yeah.

Thank you. eagles fans man not if they win i mean new orleans has seen some rowdy stuff just in general like that's a rowdy town they're ready to party at any time oh yeah but birds fans down there if the birds pull this off it's gonna leave their mark for sure on bourbon street bring your party beads there's plenty of poles outside on the street and inside you gotta grease them you gotta of grease them.
There's going to be beads and poles and it's going to be freaking nuts.

Yeah, or it's going to be

freaking nuts.

Yeah, or it's not

going to be. Is there any

other football stuff we want to hit?

Who are you rooting for?

I'll tell you what.

My money's on Pat Mahomes.

That's it for Championship

Sunday.

We will have a full Super Bowl episode dropping next week where we can talk about some more football.

We're also going to record that one in person in New Orleans.

I'm hoping from a balcony right on Bourbon Street,

but they're telling me that logistically that's impossible.

But we still are figuring out our schedule.

So stay tuned to New Heights on social

so you know when that episode next week is going to drop.

On to the next segment, New Heights Food Court.

All right.

Thank you. schedule so stay tuned to new heights on social so you know when that episode next week is going on to the next segment new heights food court all right new heights food court is brought to you by mtv's the challenge all-stars oh yeah yeah that's what i'm talking about baby think you could make it work with your worst enemy tune in january 29th at 8 7 central on mtv that's what i'm talking about a little MTV shout out.
Are there that many people in the central time zone that it's worth saying 8, 7 central? Why is it done that way? There's more people in the West Coast time zone, right? Yeah. So wouldn't you say east and west coast and let the people in the middle just do some math? Yeah.
You could do it like that, or you could just talk to probably our audience, since you're in the East Coast and I'm in Central Time. All right.
That makes a lot more sense. I mean, that's just how I draw the connection.
Well, no, it's really smart, so I feel stupid now. Love that.
This week, we're informed there is an official Skyline Chili Ice Cream. What the fuck are doing people i'm not gonna lie i cannot wait to try this this is so disgusting why why can you not wait to try this because i'm a sucker for these stupid new like food item things like i always go to taco bell and get like their dorito shell whatever and it fucking tastes terrible all the time, but I got higher expectations.
It is great. Great.
Why did you just say graders?

Like. dorito shell whatever and it fucking tastes terrible all the time but i got higher expectations great great why did you just say graters like that you know graters is fucking the best it's got one good flavor it's got every good flavor it's got one good flavor it's got one flavor that everybody knows that's the only best black raspberry chip but that's it you're out of your mind graters is incredible well they just got worse for doing skyline chili i think we get a garage beer flavored uh ice cream oh i thought you were gonna say garage beer flavored skyline chili i was like dude no no that doesn't sound good to me but garage beer flavored ice cream sounds better than a beer a garage beer flavored ice cream yeah that sounds fucking delicious oh all right yeah i thought you'd say yeah yeah all right well we know jason would eat this there's no fucking chance i'm eating this i cannot wait to try this graders if you're out there you want to ship some some dry ice i will eat it on this podcast because that's how much i love it i am in i'm gonna be very honest though if it's bad i am gonna say it.
So don't send it to me if it sucks. What would be the worst food to be made into an ice cream? I would say one is chili.
What do you think? I don't know. Chili? Like you put sour cream in it.
I think it pairs well with the dairy. More than people really think when they first hear it.
Just going to put that out there. You disconnected sour cream and ice cream? Just saying.
They're both dairies. They're creams.
Derivatives of cream. Something tells me that the sour cream that they're serving over there in Skyline Chili isn't.
I don't think they put sour cream in Skyline. Skyline is not traditional chili.
We both know that. What do you think would be the worst thing for ice cream flavor? What doesn't match up with dairy to you? I mean, the problem is everything kind of works for ice cream.
I just love ice cream that much. I mean, I'm reading mayo.
Mayo would be fucking just absolutely disgusting. I don't think I'd be interested in that.
It's too much mayo. I'm not a big dairy and spicy guy.
No? i don't think those two really mix very well like so like a jalapeno wouldn't go wouldn't be a good ice cream jalapeno ice cream i don't think so anything like flaming hot like that like super spicy i'd do some long hot ice cream oh some long hots pickled long hots iceles, another one pickle I would definitely be out on.

And I love pickles, but pickles and ice cream would be fucking disgusting.

A little salty and a little sweet.

That's not just what you get.

That's crazy.

You just tried to make it sound that simple.

Well, cucumbers.

What about cucumber ice cream?

I bet that'd be pretty good. I like cucumber water sometimes.
It's a very faint flavor. It wouldn't turn me away.
I would be like, all right, I'll try it. But it wouldn't make it.
It's not like this sounds good. I think pickle ice cream wouldn't be bad.
I'm in on trying a little pickle ice cream. I don't think we're going to find a flavor that I'm not into.
Ice cream is where I'm different than like donuts. Everybody likes the creative donuts.
I fucking can't stand creative donuts. Give me a glazed donut and I'll tell you if it's good or not.
Ice cream, I like being a little frisky with some ice cream now. I'll try your funky flavors.
Were you an espresso like hater on ice cream? Like a coffee flavor ice cream? I love coffee ice cream. Love coffee ice cream.
My go-to is butter pecan or pralines and cream. Typically, I get two scoops.
I go to the ice cream parlor. I get a cup, never a cone, never a cone, get a cup, and I'm going to put one scoop of something that I know is going to be good, and I'm going to do another scoop of something that either pairs well with that or something that sounds interesting I've never had.
That's kind of my go-to for ice cream. That's yeah ladies and gentlemen that's how you get ice cream sometimes i'll just go comb because i love that sugary delight you like the cone i'll do it occasionally texture to it it's got to be a good like a nice vanilla waffle cone or like something like just like i'm about to go get some fucking ice cream today it does sound good what is on the mount rushmore

of ice cream flavors that's like asking what's on your mount rushmore of like movies and music there's just so many fucking flavors and some flavors taste better from different places you know i just i can't just it's very hard so i'm gonna go you can't go wrong with fucking oreo or cookies and cream.

It's just like...

Okay.

So Oreo is one.

I've never heard anyone say they dislike oreos or cookies and cream it's true it is a pretty unanimously loved ice cream are you a butter pecan fan you better believe it i love butter pecan it's my favorite god that shit. Yeah.
But you know why? It's like, it's that salty and sweet deal. That's what gets me with the butter pecan.
I was a big fan of Cold Stone Creamery and getting the cake batter ice cream. Cake batter.
Brownie in there. Fucking God damn it.
That's one of my favorites. Brownie and cake batter.
You can't fucking. It's so hot.
It was so good. Dude, that's a fucking.
dude that's a fucking and then I'd have a drop kick to your fucking tonsils right there drizzle the caramel and chocolate in there as well with it it's another pro move Jason cake batter but dude cake batter specifically from cold zone cold zone which graders probably is not going to like here's another one is black raspberry chip on there i'm disappointed that you've made me have to make this decision what else do we have we got to get something like i'll tell you what based we have to get a fruit based one in there one that i go to very often it's a very safe pick and it's always good pretty much lemon ice i'd love strawberry ice cream i'm It's like, it's not something that you, it's kind of like you forget about it. It is so good.
It goes back to your two flavor thing. That's one that I compare with a lot of the ones that I get.
You can pair strawberry with Oreo cookies and cream, with butter pecan. You can like mousse tracks.
You can pair strawberries with all those. Cake batter, another one.

It just makes sense.

Final four, I'm going to go cookies and cream.

Yeah.

You can't go too creative.

I think you got to keep it pretty simple because you can't go brand specific.

So I'm with you.

Oreos and cream.

Oreos, cookies and cream.

Butter, pecan.

Yep.

I say cake batter and black raspberry chip. But cake batter is only specific to, what's it called? I can't think of the name.
Cold Stone. Cold Stone.
I've never had it outside of Cold Stone. I'll say that.
Right. But God damn it, I've never had black raspberry chip outside of graters.
There's other people making black raspberry now. They've tried to take it from them.
It's not done as well. All right.
You make the list then. No, you got it.
That's it. Cookies of green, butter can, cake batter, and black raspberry chip.
Tell us how we did, 92 percenters. People are going to hate this list.
This is easily the most. This is a solid list.
You can mix cake batter with everything. We're on the same page.
We don't just like to grab one. We like to get something that it's a combo.
We like to get more flavors and sometimes combine those flavors. Right.
And I think all these you can kind of combine and you can make a really good ice cream spread. The fact that we don't have any chocolate on there, I'm in agreement.
I mean, chocolate ice cream is nice is nice it sucks that was the bear claw you're talking about it had the brownie and the chocolate so fucking good it was so good all right well too bad we already put it up let's keep it moving shout out to the new heights food court and shout out to graders

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All right. We got a poop dollar tweet.
Oh, yeah. Workaholics, baby.
At New Heights show, hear me out. If Philly KC Super Bowl, so this was tweeted before that was decided, I'm assuming.
Jason is guest for the coin toss hurt saquon pat and travis or captains jason rigs a silver dollar with dog poo when the official flips the coin and picks it up they all yell poop dollar listen i do love a good super bowl to new heights i love a good poop dollar don't get me wrong but i think there's an appropriate time. And.
Bring the Super Bowl to new heights. I love a good poop dollar.
Don't get me wrong. But I think there's an appropriate time.

And that is the Super Bowl coin toss.

There's no way.

It is going to wait down one of the sides, so it won't be a very even coin toss.

Whatever side the poop's on is going to be landing that side down.

It's got to be tails, right?

That's got to be the poop dollar side.

So if it lands tails, you just scream poop dollar.

Well, the poop's on is going to be landing that side down it's got to be tails right that's got to be the poop dollar side so if it lands tails you just scream poop dollar well it's the poop dollar is on whatever side you put it on or do you put on both sides it's not even a dollar if it is if it's a silver dollar oh so if it's a silver dollar you got to put it on the the tail side you can't tail side you can't put poop on the poop on somebody's head yeah. So if it lands heads, then we don't say anything.
But if it lands tails, we all got to yell poop dollar. I think you just yell poop dollar when the official picks it up.
That's fucked up. Well, now they know it's coming.
I don't know how we're going to commandeer the coin toss or the coin for the coin toss. Well, you're the...
I know where we can get poop from. I feel pretty confident I can get that.
But I don't know how we're going to be able to get the coin. Yeah, that's a good point.
You know Roger. You just got to talk to Roger.
All right, I'll talk to Roger. Nice.
We got a lot of voicemails. And in particular, we got a lot of voicemails that you guys wanted to hear our interns answer.
So we're bringing in Jake and Brandon to this segment. What's up? Where we're going to listen to some voicemails what's up what's up boys don't look this up all the time since i saw you guys i am already regretting this everyone please stop talking no you're not jake brandon are you how you guys feeling you guys feeling good good get some dude i've been i've been floating i've been i got a question how was was loud.
Arrowhead was rocking. I will say this.
Do you ever experience the Cowboys stadium rocking like that? Let's see. The last time they were in that old NFC title game, I was sick.
Jake, do you ever do the Jets stadium ever get rocking like that? MetLife gets loud. I'll give Jets fans some credit.
MetLife gets loud. It does.
I haven't been to a playoff game in 15 years, but back then it was loud. I was just asking questions from two guys from devoted fans to their fan base.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Diehard Cowboys fan, Brandon.
Diehard Cowboys fan, sure. Yeah.
Fuck all of you. The moment at Arrowhead, Jake, I don't remember if you had – the moment that it was the loudest at Arrowhead was when the fourth down was incomplete, when everybody was confirmed that ball hit the ground was, holy shit, that place erupted.
And then when everybody kind of clocked that P. Ryan had the angle to get the first down, because there was such a lull from from that third down it was like oh oh shit they we could give josh allen one more chance if we don't everybody was doing the math in their head and there was a lot of clinching going on in that stadium so it was a lot of like oh shit shit shit shit shit and then i think when they saw him break and they saw the angle he had that first down i think that was the loudest I heard it all day.
And that was fucking incredible. It was shaking the walls.

That was wild.

I will say that.

That was nuts.

Yeah, which voicemail do you want to hear?

People want to hear from us this week.

Let's see what rooting's about.

Okay.

So we know that everyone's going to be asking Jason who he's rooting for in the Super Bowl,

what he's going to wear, everything.

My question is for intern Brandon and Jets Jake.

Congrats on getting out to the suite.

We also have a great question. Great question.
Way to put Travis on the spot. Let's do it.
Yeah, thanks. It's weird.
It's weird how that voicemail got slipped in here. That's crazy.
Travis, aren't you? And Brandon and Jets Jake. Travis, it's really for you first off.
The crazy thing is that all NFL players get two tickets. So, Jason, I'm pretty sure you know somebody on the Eagles.
This is Jason. I'm no longer a player.
Who's your favorite? But you know players on the Eagles that you could probably get the tickets for. You want me to ask other players for two tickets for intern Brandon and Jets Jake? No, I'm not doing that.
Yes, you do. God damn it.
I thought we were all friends here. If you guys want to go, I'll buy some tickets.
That was your chance, boys. I don't even know if I'm going to go yet.
I'm going to go where you go. I'm going to go where you go.
I might watch it from Bourbon Street. I'm not going to lie.
That sounds more electric than being in that stadium. The rooting question is very good, and I really think Jake's got the best answer on this.
So I'll let him go that was what I was going to do to you so that's fucked up Jake let's you go first buddy who are you rooting for they asked what I would be wearing I will be wearing New Heights merch because I'm a company man well done Jake that's why we implore you who I'm rooting for is a tough question because most of my family lives in philadelphia oh i travis is playing and so if either one of you is buying us tickets that's probably the team all right well that settled that one if i buy you a ticket to get you an Eagles gear at the Super Bowl, I might just be willing to make that purchase. I don't give a fuck.
This guy just wants to go to the Super Bowl, man. I love it.
That's a fair one. That's a fair one.
Brandon, are you going to give your two cents, or are you in with Jake on that? Oh, I can be bought. I can be bought like crazy.
I can be bought. My price is low, brother.
I will say this, and I've been thinking about this because it's funny when this happened. Jason and I were laughing about this of like, of course, this is the fucking situation we found ourselves in.
Again, we're going to back yeah i of course want to root for travis kelsey because the phone call or recording we have to have afterwards is gonna be miserable otherwise but it's a good point i i do want to say this and i do i do really want to say this to philly fans to chiefs fans so much of what show was able to do, like season one was because both teams and organizations and coaches and players were so like nice to us. And so like gracious to give us access to Jalen and Pat and Andy showed up for an episode that it's, this is going to suck.
I'm being very clear. This is going to suck bad.
Like I really, it's really fun fun that this happened to get it also is going to be such a kick in the dick for no it really is like i i've been very lucky to get to meet a lot of the the people we talk about and i am going to be fucking heartbroken for somebody and it's i really don't want to go through it but it's i think that's the honest answer is like it's going to be miserable for somebody and i don't want to deal with that but we'll have to we'll cross that bridge when we get there but it's going to be honorable it's honorable i really can't say enough good things about both the players and and coaches and media people we've gotten to work with over the last couple years and it's going to be brutal. And I want all of them to know that.
It's a genuine answer. It's a championship organizations for sure.
Yeah. Both of them, both of them don't get here without being fully, you know, having the full arsenal of people doing it the right way.
I do remember when we started this and we were working with the Eagles for the first time. And I met one of the Eagles PR people and they were like,'re just going to give Jason a microphone and I was like yeah and they're like and he's going to

fucking say whatever and I was like yes and they're like oh good luck

with that. Really?

Yeah they were like oh boy

I hope you guys can edit.

Oh wow.

Yeah that was this was like

the easiest ask that I've ever

had to ask like the Chiefs

media. Really?

Yeah asking them if it was cool

if I did catching Kelsey now that's a ask

Thank you. easiest ask that I've ever had to ask the Chiefs media.
Really? Yeah, asking them if it was cool if I did Catching Kelsey. Now that's a ask.
Yeah, you want to do one more, Jason? Yeah. You know what they want to hear.
You know what they want to hear. Alright, let's hear the last one then.
No, you know which one they want to hear. I don't know which one they want to hear.

I don't. I thought that was the one.
I'll play it.

I'll play it. Hey guys,

this is Jenna, longtime Clifty here,

and I need to know, intern Brandon and Jeff Jake,

how does it feel that you have

gotten the

hey, fuck ass filter

privileges?

We know it's hard to get in there,

and you guys did it.

So I need to know. What was the experience

Thank you. hey fuck ass filter privileges um we know it's hard to get in there and you guys did it so i need to know what was the experience like how did it happen was it just a ball of chaos was it planned not planned but you know what i mean but yeah let us know well what was the what they signed the nba so let's see if they break it or not.
The fuck ass filter. It is the.
The what filter? I have learned about this recently. It is the what? It's the.
They have a name for like how the photos on that camera turn out is what I have learned. And that was the photo that people have been tweeting.
But I'll say this about the suite. I'm so confused.
Yeah'm on i'm online i know i don't know what are you even saying you're saying focus you're saying the fuck ass filter the fuck ass filter what the fuck is that yeah what does it mean that's the name they picked for always they don't just say a name all right they make it make sense what is the what make it make sense why is it i that? I'm as confused as everybody else. It doesn't sound like you're anywhere near as confused as us.
The fuck-ass filter is just how those photos turn out on that camera. Jake, if I'm wrong, let me know.
What camera? Taylor's camera. Taylor has a camera? Who? Who? All right.
Well well since you understood the question go ahead and answer it i'll say this i i will say this uh two things one nothing that we've ever done on the show is planned let me make sure that's abundantly clear this has been nothing but winging it for about three years so jake and i ended up where we ended up was a complete fucking last second Hail Mary of like, hey, if there's any fucking room, we'll go. Like, you know, we'll go.
And we were very lucky. Jake and I were talking.
We got in Saturday. We're going Sunday.
And we were like, Saturday, let's fucking keep it easy. Let's go have dinner.
Let's get like a drink and let's get the fuck to bed. Sunday's a marathon.
Got to be on your best behavior. You're fucking you're meeting everybody.
everybody we fucked that up so bad we were out to hours the goddamn night on like westport that was a stupid idea we were so not ready for the game on sunday it was a great time you got to tell everybody where you went in westport we went to char bar and we went to cali's you didn't tell me you went char bar first we went to char bar first did you get some barbecue oh we got those burn in oh yeah oh yeah i like the wings too they got the big they got the full wing they don't split we didn't do the wings we got we got like a barbecue platter and then the guy uh i can't remember if he was the owner or not was like oh you got to go to this bar down the street first and we were like oh let's fucking go there yeah and that turned into like six hours of i don't know jake how were you feeling that next morning? It was not good.

I couldn't.

I had to mix in a couple more waters than I did.

But it was an awesome weekend.

I was very happy to be there.

And I'll say this about Jake and I.

We were completely unprepared for the moment.

But we went.

We were in the suites.

I will say this jake and

i had no idea how to introduce ourselves like we forgot how to be people we were like do you find do you are we gonna shake hands with her are we gonna like what does she know we walked in the door and i'll give this away she she said our names immediately was like oh my god brandon jake finally we were floored like we didn't see it coming it was such a she just shook us immediately with knowing our names and it just threw us and we floated on over to continue the conversation and so that was uh a moment that i will sort of replay in my head for a while she knows how to break the ice she broke she's a pro she's a pro at it yeah she could probably read that jake and i were terrified i got she's like i gotta i'm sensing a lot of middle school dance energy from these two so i'm just gonna go ahead and like thank you so much for being the adult here um i jake am i wrong am i wrong on the read of that situation we were fucking it up bad no. No, you're right.
You also, you told me to, you know, wipe my nose a little bit before. Like, I had some bats in the cave.
Oh, yeah. I looked you dead in the eyes, and I was like, you got to clean up the face, brother.
Like, we're going in the door. No, but it was awesome.
And Trav, like, your friends are a good group of people to watch again. Good hang.
That is a good hang. It's an awesome welcoming group, and they and they were just like hyped for me and brandon to be there which was an incredible experience and it honestly was like the best football watching the past three years have been the best football watching experience of like my entire life so i mean i know that's not saying much as a 30 year old jets fan as a jets fan As a Jets fan, the bar is low.
Honestly, just incredibly grateful to have been there. It was awesome.
Thank you, guys. No, man, it's fun.
And you already know, we keep the good ones around. You guys are every part of the friend group and the hang as anybody.
And, yeah, man, it was a blast enjoying the rest of that chaotic suite once I got up there after the game and after the antics on the field afterwards. That thing was rocking, and it was nothing but good vibes, man.
That was good. It was fun.
Yeah, I appreciate you guys saying that about Tay. Of course.
No. One more thing.
Can I do one more? Can I do one more? Yeah. And I did want to wait to say this on the show but you know we had a long conversation with her but she was very complimentary of the show nice and of like oh she listens every week she gave us some creative compliments and she like it's shit that like let me be very clear you can't tell me shit for the rest of my fucking.
I'm going to be very honest. You can't, you can't, I am going to be obnoxious.
I'm like, do you know who you're fucking talking to? We're doing a, we're doing performance reviews at work. And let me tell you something right now.
Fucking I'm not listening to a goddamn thing for another six years. Get out of my face.
So I will say that I was very appreciative of it. And I did want to make sure everybody, you know, Jake and I are very lucky that we get to kind of fuck around with you guys publicly.
But there's a lot of people that do a lot of great work on this show. And like those compliments are not just for us.
They're for everybody. So when somebody of that sort of like creative caliber pays you a compliment, you're kind of like, oh, fuck.
And again, I'm going to be

a complete narcissist from here on out.

And I'm sorry to everybody

who's around. God damn it, Taylor.

Oh, fuck, brother. It's done.

It's over. You lost me.

I was humble for only so long.

No, it was a lot of fun.

Jake, I don't think, do you have anything?

I was going to say, peek behind the curtain.

Brandon's never been humble in his life. So not much changed business as usual business as usual everything's the same you guys want to do this last voicemail which is the last one you want to revisit it yeah let's go I do want to say this before we get in that one.
The amount of people that came up to Jake and were like, oh, you're Jake. Way to throw your sister under the bus last week.
It's staggering. Well, talking about your sister's favorite hobby, that's hobby horses.
Last week, that steak absolutely blew up a sister's spot when we were talking about hobby horsing and how I think it's absolutely ridiculous. And Jane sides with me on that.
So we had her call in with a rebuttal and here it is. What up brothers.
It's the sister. What's up sis.
And I think I just need to set the record straight. You call it hobby horsing.
The real horse call it horseless and i was not playing horseless in high school honestly don't really even think it was middle school so let's stick to elementary school please and if jake's gonna try and embarrass me i just think you should also know he couldn't make it off the JV tennis team in high school. Wow.
Bye. Wow.
What? Savage. You couldn't make it off the JV tennis team.
Did we not have a backhand? It's not that hard, Jake. I was varsity.
Come on. What are we doing? How many kids even play tennis at your school? Was the court big enough, Jake? Jesus.
Couldn't keep it in? There's like mixed doubles, Jake. Like, what are we doing? Did we pick tennis and not have good lateral movement? You had to like run a mile under 10 minutes.
Couldn't do that. What? 10 minutes? 10, Jake.
10 minutes? Slow as shit. Also, I was like a peer kid in high school.
Jake, you can walk a mile in 10 minutes. Jake, you could like...
I was like a weird kid in high school I just made it worse for myself alright but that's fair we're family alright my sister can shit on me all she wants so good you can't go six miles an hour for one mile that's crazy that's a crazy way to put it. We got to work on this.
We got to work on this, dude. I'm working on my personal fitness.
I'm working on my personal fitness. All right.
It's 2025. It's a new year.
But yeah, no. High school me.
High school me couldn't do the 10 minute mile. Yeah, it was bad.
But JV was fun jv captain three years didn't didn't make it off the team jv captain i don't know did you put that on a jacket were you what do we do to jake i don't think he's ever going to be good enough to make varsity just make him the captain of the jv's he's going to embrace it then yeah Jake is so good that's not

Jake you leader he's going to embrace it then yeah Jay is so good I was a leader I was a leader we could put you on varsity but we need those leadership skills on JV you got to show these kids how it's done I don't know what's more impressive we need some good mentoring what did she call it she said it's not hobby horse she called it horselseless. Like horseback riding without a horse.
No, it's... Oh, that's so worse.
We're not letting that go. It's not even better.
It is better than it was like elementary school. I'll give her that.
You lied. She's lying.
I can see it being a kid's thing. She's lying? So we're accusing your sister of lying? How long did she do it for? Alright, I'll give her probably not high school, but I was in high school, so she was in middle school.
Middle school? What's the difference? She's calling back in with more shit next week. Alright.
She's probably ignoring me for the rest of her life. I don't know what's more embarrassing.
Middle school hobby horsing or JV captain of the tennis team for three years. Could she have run a mile with the hobby horse in less than 10 minutes? She was quick.
Guaranteed, right? Yeah. She was quick.
Why did you keep playing tennis? Why didn't you just stop? I think he stopped after three years. I did stop after three years.

I'm not going to be a senior on JV.

That would be

embarrassing.

You were captain of the JV team

your freshman year?

I don't know. I might have made up the captain thing

entirely if we're being honest.

I make up a lot of shit

whenever I get put in front of the camera.

I don't know how to speak.

Oh, my gosh.

That's so good.

That's good shit.

All right.

All right.

Well, that's an episode.

Jake, Brandon, thank you guys for showing up in Arrowhead,

and thank you guys for answering some not-dumb questions.

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We'll see you down in narlins baby peace you do it do do do do do do i i gotta figure out what are the three the three, what are the harmonies in this?

Let's figure this out.

Let's do it afterwards.

Let's do it afterwards.

Let's do it afterwards.

Let's do it afterwards.

We caught a good rhythm.

We caught a good rhythm.

Get out of the phone.

You go high or go low.

Do I.

That sucked. I got to go high.
I got to go high. I got to go high.
Do I. Do I.
Do I. Do I.
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If the Eagles ever played the Chiefs and his brother, then I had to choose. No matter how hard I try, you keep pushing me.
Oh, yeah, this is for Jason Kelsey right here. Oh, my God, that's so fucking good.
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