Jason In the Ring, Travis in the Desert and Our Live Show Recap | Ep 86

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Jason, tell the people what we got coming up, bud. We got another fantastic episode.
Trav, this edition is going to present what took place at our first arena live show. Dude, so nuts.
Pretty special. It was an awesome show in Cincinnati.
Cincinnati showed up. The university showed up.
It was a fantastic evening. So grateful, man.
We're also going to get to talking about out of the house. There's been some photos and things leaking on both of our accounts over the last couple weeks.
So we're going to talk about all that as well as maybe eventually talk about, you know, football. You want to talk about football now? Haven't talked about it in like four weeks on this show.
So I guess probably there are still some football fans that watch. Is there anything going on right now? There's always something going on.
The NFL has got this figured out at all times of the year. There's contracts being done.
There's there's otas like the only dead period in the nfl is that like four to six month time period when everybody takes vacation in the summer that's about it outside of that there's something happening at all times which thank you because it gives us stuff to talk about on the show all right now we're gonna get to the uh first segment as always as always still don't have a voice from screaming all day in the university of cincinnati uh first bit of new news is he must have heard us talking about him last week on uh on the episode with little dicky kind of lurker because my brother cheeto santino andrew santino is going to be joining us uh next week uh on the podcast i'm so pumped if you haven't seen his podcast whiskey ginger please go watch it um absolutely hilarious my favorite comedian out right now one of my one of my good friends man have you guys been calling him cheeto yeah that's his that's name, Cheeto. Why Cheeto? He looks like a Cheeto.
Because he's got red hair? Yeah. I would assume that's the connection.
There might be something deeper. How about this, Jason? We'll have to find out.
When he comes on the show. All right, now.
Appreciate you joining us, Cheeto. I fucking love you, man.
We'll talk about his stand-up, what projects he's been working on, and the time i spent on his podcast wearing uh some very very very short shorts that i haven't worn ever since how short i mean they were definitely uh mid-thigh they were almost as short as the shorts you were wearing well those shorts weren't that short those are like regular length shorts yeah good point all right my nuts were hanging out all right well make sure you tune in next week for that one. I promise you, you won't want to miss it, baby.
Next bit of new news, we're going to talk about something that isn't, I guess, new news or kind of still news, but we haven't talked about it yet, and that is Travis and Pat Mahomes are getting into the restaurant business together. That's right.
All right, now. Their legendary connection on the field isn't iconic enough.
They're now going to connect off the field as partners in the new steakhouse in Kansas City called 1587 Prime. Why is it 1587? Is that a year that's specific to the both of you guys? Nope.
Just a couple of random numbers thrown together. no honestly it's uh it's always been pretty cool to see the uh the support that we get out in kansas city so we wanted to make sure we we showed that love back uh doing things in the community is something that we're both heavily heavily involved in um and so this time uh we wanted to make a restaurant man why not have one of of the coolest steakhouses and one of the best hotels in the city, downtown Kansas City at the Lowe's.
And it's just going to be awesome, man. I can't wait to show Kansas City our love for food and dining experiences.
Because that's one thing me, Pat, and the gang love to do, man. We love to just go out and just pig out at all the best restaurants in the world.
So we thought we'd have our own rendition in Kansas City, man. Shout out to the Noble 33 group that we're teaming up with.
A lot of our favorite restaurants have been with them over the years, and it's pretty cool teaming up with them, knowing Just good vibes, good people, good genuine people, hardworking people on both ends. And just love the mashup.
Well, this is being called, quote, a modern American steakhouse is the kind of steakhouse it's going to be. It is set to open in 2025, as Travis said, in the Lowe's Kansas City Hotel.
Are you guys going to be like Todd Harriman's and brent selick when they open their bar in philly and just everyone eats for free players eat for free probably not but yeah i mean there'll be times there'll be times where i'll pick up the bill i'll pick up the bill guys every now and then every now and then you guys might be able to survive solely on rookie dinners do you think there's going to be a lot of rookie dinners enjoyed at 1587? I don't know.

Jason, I never had a rookie dinner.

They never did that with you, huh?

No, not me.

Fasano?

Come on, Anthony.

Fasano didn't take you out on a rookie dinner.

I think we all might have grabbed dinner, but it wasn't like, hey,

we're going to dinner and we're going to pig out

and we're going to get the most expensive alcohol we can

and you're going to pay for it.

It wasn't a situation like that.

I mean, it's a pretty ridiculous tradition that the NFL does with rookies. I mean, it's absurd.
Especially the rookies that don't have a lot of money. I mean, I guess everybody has a lot of money, but I feel like the veterans should be imparting wisdom of saving your money and not spending it frivolously on shots of Louis the 13th or whatever the heck that whiskey is.
It costs like $200 a shot. I'd rather not drink warm gasoline.
I'm all right on that. I've never understood the...
Whatever. This is for another topic, but what is going to be on the menu at 1587 Prime? I don't know.
Probably have some Pat's ketchup. I don't know.

Pat has his own ketchup?

Well, I mean, he is a big ketchup guy, so I would assume.

Is it like fancy ketchup?

We know he's a big Whataburger guy.

Yeah.

Is there going to be fancy ketchup at 1587 Prime?

There might be.

We're putting together menus and everything right now.

It probably won't be up and running until after this upcoming season. But, yeah, we're putting together all the fun stuff right now it probably won't be up and running until after this this upcoming season but um yeah we're putting together uh all the uh all the fun stuff right now does pat dip his steak in ketchup breakfast lunch and dinner everything dude it's it's just a it's just what he does it's what he's been doing he'll get like a nice bone-in ribeye cut it up and dip it in ketchup i'm've seen it before.
Wow. He's reeled back on it a lot from what I remember, but I've definitely seen that happen before.
Is this going to be one of those steak houses that has the Wagyu steak in it? I think every place has Wagyu now. Yeah, I can't tell you exactly.
I know we want to keep it kind of centered around Kansas City. Am I the only person that's out on Wagyu? You might be, yeah.
I've had it a few times. A few times? I've had it quite a few times, and it is fucking delicious.
I can't just have a steak, like a 12 12 ounce wagyu steak i can't do that i can have

it sliced up yeah it's very rich in terms of it's like too much for a fatty flavor yeah but that's

why i usually get like a big old ribeye or a big steak you put that thing on a taco whoa you put

that thing on like a burger whoa it's too much for a whole steak steak it just by itself is is a lot

I feel like i can just feel my arteries clogging as this stuff is dripping down my gullet i'm not i just i don't know you and the gullet is hilarious man right down my gullet it's a good word yeah no i am i'm not sure what's on the menu i'm not really even sure um what's going to be specific to me and pat um in the restaurant but we're definitely going to put something together um we're excited about it shout out to noble 33 uh shout out to patty my homes and uh shout out to kansas city we've been uh we've been wanting to keep doing fun stuff for you guys in the community and hopefully you guys can get excited for this one there is a question from a 92 percenter out there on club 92 from mad dog b 41 will jason be providing the cows for travis's new steakhouse i can say that before travis answers we don't have enough cows provide a whole steakhouse with uh meats but i we can provide a steak maybe one of the steaks is a jason i mean i don't want to leap to conclusions. Travis, it's your steakhouse, but you want one of my cows for a steak? I got a nice, maybe ground beef.
No, no, let me take a gander at these cows. See what these cows look like.
Fair enough. That's a no, ladies and gentlemen.
And we're also been nominated for more awards. That's right.
First up, we've officially been nominated for four Webby Awards. How about that? Podcast co-hosts, which I guess would be Travis and I.
Podcast Best Video Series, which I don't even know what that means. Podcast Best Sports Podcast, which, again, I think that's us.
Again, maybe. Social Content Series of Sports Podcasts.
Dude, Judge Jake. That's a direct shout shout out to our one and only Jets Jake.

That's right. Dude, can't get a yard in the NFL, but he's up for a Webby.

That's right.

We're proud of him for that.

The lead social producer for New Heights is up for his own Webby.

How about it?

I don't know.

Is this a votable thing?

That's a fucking thing.

Thank you most importantly to the 92%ers for continuing to tune into this show.

You guys are what makes this show fun every single week.

We enjoy doing this.

We have no idea what we're embarking on each and every week.

We have no idea.

But we're going to on each and every week have no idea but we enjoy bringing literally the two most clueless guys to ever be up for an award there's a lot of support in this room from a lot of people that uh that you don't get to see on camera as often as travis and i um and they're really what make the show as you can see i'm looking over here, and that's because I'm directly reading everything that Brandon has written down. None of these thoughts are mine.
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Voting closes tomorrow, April 18th, so you know what to do. 92%ers and Swifties, of course.
We'll put all the links in the episode description. Let's help Judge Jake get his social producer, Webby.
I think that'd be a big one for Judge Jake. He'd be able to wear it proudly.
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Let's get to what everybody has been talking about the last few weeks, and that's our second New Heights Live show. Oh my gosh, it was electric.
In front of a sold-out crowd of 13, so third arena so electric we're also glad that it moved to doors i was the one who was pushing very hardly for it to be in nippert for those of you that don't know nippert stadium is cincinnati's football stadium historic nippert stadium over 100 years old folks travis and i practiced and played games on that stadium every day blood sweat and tears boys it's also a unique stadium that is part of campus like it's open during the day you can you at any time of the day you'll see kids eating lunch down there when it's nice out you'll see people playing ultimate frisbee it's it's very much a part of the university as opposed to i think any other college football stadium in the country i remember students coming to watch practice and just like go over their work well that was a big problem people could just videotape practice from opposing teams which is why it's no longer there one of the reasons i'm sure but um it was it was completely open at all times other than outside of events and games but we were definitely looking forward to showcasing the uniqueness that is Nippert Stadium. But we moved it indoors because of, really, weather.
And I think it was the right decision on all accounts. We should have been indoors from the beginning.
I screwed that up. It definitely was.
The weather made me see what everybody else saw from the beginning, which is it's going to be way more fun in front of a packed out indoor arena

at Fifth Third.

It was amazing.

And it started right up with the entrance for the Greatland Baby Games.

Oh, my gosh.

And to Brandis introduce us, there was smoke, there was fire,

there was an injury risk.

I mean, I don't know how you felt.

Running through that smoke was not um we had no idea

i thought i was going to just run through somebody just like take out 10 cheerleaders

it was literally running blind for a good like 10 to 15 feet too it wasn't just like

oh you're through the wall it was like

dude i was like just making sure i didn't kill somebody and then there was that blue

... like dude i was like just making sure i didn't kill somebody and then there was that blue the blue tarp for the first little baby games like event was right there and i kind of tripped on it i stepped on it in an awkward way dude i stepped on it it has nothing to do with dragging my feet it was the fact your toe like you were trying to stay in bounds in the end zone just just random toe drag dude i um i stepped on a throw in the uh in the mist and i was like oh no but but you didn't because you're a lesser athlete yeah well the intro was electric the fans were in it right from the get-go and let me tell you guys this was i mean the whole night was over four hours long it was a long day i didn't even realize it was that long i just felt like we were in there enjoying the hell out of it we started at seven and ended after 11 o'clock it was a long day there was one intermission which we which we needed badly.
But the fans at all times were into it. They were cheering.
They were yelling. They were throwing things.
It was a fun, fun evening. There's also a great video of us dancing on stage before the game started.
One of the 92%ers got this. And I think I can pretty much squash any doubt of my dancing abilities with this video right here.
I think I finally put to rest anybody's opinion that I can't dance because I don't do other people's moves. I'm an original content creator.
That move is called the linebacker jiggle because you need your knees inside your toes as a linebacker to be able to explode in any direction.

Everybody knows this.

Everybody knows that.

But you also need that hip flexibility to be able to make a tackle.

So to me, it's demonstrating my linebacker ability with this dance move right here.

That's pretty good.

With great rhythm and gracefulness, if I might add.

Yeah.

You still had the jeans on at this point, so it was little stiff but well the jeans were they're very stretchy they're got nice comfortable wranglers what are those things i don't even know what brand that is but i they're broken i had to toss them after the event because i ripped a hole in them and oh that's what happened well there was there was a bunch of ass sweat and then when i took them off i realized that as well. And I don't know at what point in the show that happened.
Probably ripped it doing this thing. Yeah, right here.
No, I mean, this isn't... This is right here.
It wasn't this. This is a move that wouldn't rip them, but something I did did.
Did, did. All right.
Well, I was impressed. I even gave you your props afterwards.
I was like, okay, Jason, I see you. I see you busting it out, showing how...
Who the fuck is Patricia L? Who the hell is this? What happened? Wow, you can really see the difference between moves in the short clip. Jason, very jerky, whereas Travis, hips, legs, movement just seemed to flow.
I'm very flowy. I am very flowy.
What the fuck does Patricia L know? What does she know? I was going for jerky. You got to be able to show explosion.
Explosion happens jerky. Thank you for telling Jason that he's not smooth.
I like showing off jerkiness because it shows that I have impeccable explosion. That's a good point.
I'm not sure. So what is she saying? She's not saying anything bad.
She's saying that it's jerky. So it might not even be.
I think you're just reading it in a negative way. You're right.
Patricia, I take back what I said. Kaylee 187 on Eminem said, what is Jason doing? Now that seems to be a shot.
That was a shot. Well, she just didn't know.
She's asking.

And then she's crying because she doesn't know.

Some people put those as laughing tears,

but she's literally crying because she wants to know what that incredible dance move that I just pulled off was.

You have a unique way of reading things.

And we've already been over this.

That's the linebacker shuffle.

All right.

Bluey Adiva, 289 on Twitter, doesn't even look as if they're dancing to the same music. I thought it did.
I thought we were. Yeah, we're both in the same rhythm.
Yeah. Jason just looks like a Sims character.
All right. After the dancing, we got into the Greatland Baby Games.
And it couldn't have started off any better than I could have imagined. It was fucking unbelievable from the get-go.
My man, Zach. So I guess we'll, the Greatland Baby Games, as those have been.
I love how you got to tell everybody that's your guy now. Like, all right, it was kind of fucked up what I did, but that's my guy.
Dude, me and and zach became best friends after this and he came in clutch in the team relay at the end uh with the with the final sprint to secure victory for team academic aka team nerds oh man for those of you that have not been following the last few weeks and are just tuning into great baby games was a competition between uh student athletes and non-student athletes team academic and team athletic. It was a nod to Revenge of the Nerds and in some ways global guts.
It was a very unique game show that was created for the most part by our incredible team. Let's give it up for our incredible team at New Heights.
Yeah, team! So good. It was unbelievable the games that they thought of starting right away so we had eight events the first one was helmet toss helmet toss where we got everybody is we got two competitors dizzy as possible then they had to try and hurl helmets at these cardboard cutouts of travis and i and if you guys want to see how well that first event went you can watch this clip right now there's definitely a difference in the speed at which i'm spinning zach and the speed at what you are spinning zach is clinging on for dear life his head almost hit the pole multiple times that's exactly why i wasn't spinning that fast jillian was she's a she's like an athlete at university of cincinnati if i would have spun her to the point of like hitting her head oh my god all of the first second ends up in our guy larry shakley's lap and then finds himself in the first first row second row you know and by the time he gets up and runs over the the game is done.
I got to say, the one thing that, I mean, Zach is clearly the highlight of this video. I don't want to take away from my man Zach.
But because everybody keeps focusing on Zach, people are not noticing just the deathly accuracy at which Jillian nailed these two cardboard cutouts with an NFL helmet. Two shots, bang, bang, easiest thing thing I've ever done in my life.
Even if you're not dizzy to throw a football helmet, it's not like it's the easiest thing in the world to do with any type of accuracy. I hope that she looks back before throwing the first helmet like, is something happening? Because the entire crowd is going crazy over Zach.
Because Zach just ate it. He took two steps and just fucking ate it.
Yeah. That was the first of it which Team Josh took.
It was like there was a magnet that he had no control of, just fucking pulling him towards the stance. Yeah, he was definitely leaning hard to the right.
Yes, that's so good, man. Oh, my God.
When I saw his hair flying like a cape while you were spinning them i was like this dude is about to be miserable when he gets up he's holding on like for dear life while i'm spinning uh miss hayes over there and she's just yeah i mean not a concern in the world well after the jocks went up 1-0, and we went right to Jason lost his ring, where we had a full vat of Skyline Chili. This is actually technically a three-way.
It's not just Skyline Chili. There's spaghetti in there, cheese, and chili.
We've got to do this again. It was...
Folks, the video does not do justice. Just how disgusting this was.
I had to get away from that corner, man. I mean, I went to Skyline Chili was i had to get away from that corner man i mean i went i had to get away from that corner i went to skyline twice over the weekend i love skyline chili this chili had been sitting out for like some time period it smelled so bad in that part of the arena it was disgusting it was just it the pungent odor coming from these

children's pools filled with skyline chili three ways was absolutely disgusting oh my god mixed

into that chili there were socks with some make-believe rings and then there's actually

only one real ring in there which was my super bowl ring but there was another kind of like

replica super bowl ring so there were two super bowl- rings that they had to try and find one in each pool and here's the clip for that one jesus i don't want to watch it i'll let you guys watch it'll be disgusting team academic went right away with the shenanigans. And then Team Jocks did not disappoint.
She jumped right into the other Chili. And, I mean, it was a genius strategy.
Just started playing defense, essentially. I thought it was great.
Like, just like, hey, let's just like. Genius strategy.
We didn't differentiate that you couldn't go into the other person's pool. I thought that was a brilliant strategy.
That's a big thing that I was thinking of. I'm like, man, if I was in these games, I'd fucking cheat my ass off because there's no rules.
If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. Nobody's really.
We're giving very vague rules on purpose. We want the creative juices of how do we cheat or get an advantage.
It's not cheating because it's not stipulated in the rules. We like creatively thinking we need to get away with things.
So the first person to find the Super Bowl ring won, and it ended up being Team Academic. But there was an unfortunateness.
As you guys know, this game existed because I continually lose my Super Bowl ring. And I don't even know if Travis still knows this, but I legitimately lost my Super Bowl ring in this event.
They could not find it. This is Jets Jake and intern Brandon the next day searching through the chili to try and find the sock that had my Super Bowl ring in it.
We have still yet to find it. All of this stuff has been thrown away, so I think we can safely assume that my Super Bowl ring is now in a landfill someplace in the Cincinnati tri-state area.
I didn't think that would happen. What did you expect to happen? I thought that we would just go in the pool and get the ring afterwards, but they were throwing so much.
You're such a fucking imbecile. And there was so much calamity happening that at some point, the only thing I can think of is at some point, the sock got kicked out of the three-way, and it made its way out of the pool, and that it was thrown away in some shape or form.
But yes, the Super Bowl ring is officially gone. We've already put the insurance claim in, which I think the insurance company might have some things to say about whether they're going to cover that.
Yeah, 100% they're going to have,

especially if you're going to tell the entire world how you lost it.

Well, I didn't lose it.

First of all, I knew exactly where it was.

No, you didn't.

It was in that pool.

Nobody knew where it was.

It's the same thing as if I left it in a sock.

If I left it in my house and somebody came to my house and took it,

it's the exact same scenario.

Jason, you didn't put that Super Bowl ring in a sock and put it in the pool. You didn't do that.
It doesn't matter where I put it. I can put it wherever I want as long as I know where it's at.
And I knew where it was at. Somebody at some point messed with my Super Bowl ring, which I'm fine with.
I mean, it's just a hunk of metal. I'll just have another one made, I think.
They can do that, right? I don't know, Jason. Probably.
I guess we're going to find out. This is so ridiculous.
We also got a metal detector, which I don't know jason probably i guess we're gonna find out this is so great got a metal detector which i don't know if kids if you're watching at home do not do what jason's doing don't do this greg uh the metal detector doesn't work he didn't know this but there's actually metal in skyline chile there's traces of iron within the chile itself so it's an impossible task to try and use a metal detector that's so good there's probably lead as well in there so oh man so um upon truly losing my soul uh my super bowl ring uh there was the next event which was the electric trivia this event consisted of two contestants trying to answer trivia questions while riding a mechanical bull um shocker it didn't go well neither the godfather nor the uh team nerds competitor offered much of a value and effort i will say also incredibly hard questions like it was like inside joke questions like they couldn't just go with regular trivia. Our team had to go with new heights-related trivia.
Yep. You got to watch the show, guys.
If you're going to enter, you got to watch the show. Apparently, they were not big 92 percenters because there were also some questions that I didn't know.
There was no chance of getting this. I forgot all about this.
Either way, we had to resort to the tiebreaker, which I like to call common knowledge question. Jason is so ridiculous.
Travis knows the common knowledge question has always been a part of our repertoire in determining which direction a waterfall goes when you are doing a drinking game. But you can watch that at some point.
that'll be up and you'll find out how that

works but essentially just ask a question that you know both people should know the answer to

and the first person to blurt out the answer there's no buzzer it's just say it as fast as

as fast as possible if it sounds like the same time you just call it a tie and you go to the

next question there's got to be a clear winner and uh the undisputed winner was dante the godfather

that's right hungry bearcats run faster hungry bearcats run faster. Hungry Bearcats run faster.
This was his. Get this one? Yeah, this one was pretty tough.
I'm not going to lie. I didn't think this was going to be a great ending.
I was actually encouraging the crowd to chant puke. To just get it over with.
I just wanted it, yeah. Because it was taking.
Do we ever stipulate that puking would get you disqualified in this event um i think it's just i think you said it midway through i think you said it midway through you're like oh she's about to puke if she does puke she is disqualified yeah i had to like stipulate that just so everybody knew i forgot to say this at the beginning this is the longest uh fast eating competition that anybody's ever had and it's only three hot dogs i'm not exaggerating i ate three cheese conies that night casually faster than they ate three for speed like it was alarming the slowness at which both of them were eating i talked to both of them after the race, and neither one of them ate chili. Neither one of them had ever had Skyline chili.
Which is rightfully so. You should never actually eat that shit.
All right? Juliet, look at this picture of Juliet. She was struggling.
Let me tell you, folks. I was struggling watching Juliet.
And we found out that she's actually from France. She was a good sport about it, though.
Upon being a heptathlete, which apparently she's a very good track runner, so the expectation was high for her to do this drill well, the American Skyline Chili was just too much for her French palate to enjoy. She was really, I mean, I don't even know if you can count how many times the french don't eat that was happening if it was a if it was a hot dog of foie gras yeah she would have nailed it she would have fucking rolled through that shit yeah if it was like a croissant with uh you know brie cheese and uh some duck she would have like it would have been like wow but with the skyline chili she could just like you could tell she was questioning being in america the entire time she was eating that what the fuck am i doing here yeah no i feel i felt bad for it because i would have probably have done the exact same thing she did and just so everybody knows like they didn't pick their events they just got like randomly thrown into these events well i think they got to pick but they got very vague um descriptions of what the events were that is that is correct you said it correctly so i think they found out that this was like a running competition they're like hey let's put the track athlete in this one little did she know that's what we told them i don't know what they told him it's gonna be bro it's gonna be a relay yes oh my gosh that's so fucking that's fucked up to be honest tell you trick them that's they both went for it though and let me tell you as many times as juliette dry heaped she never gave up she kept trying to get that she kept down i would as soon As soon as the girl brook would have ran off and she had like juliette hadn't even like finished half of her coney i would have just been like all right this race is over i'm not guzzling these things down any faster than what i am right now and she's clearly out to a head start and fuck this the perseverance that juliette showed she probably has chili still somewhere in her teeth it was it was inspirational juliet and then uh the calc computer i don't know if you can hear from the clip but uh the nerds were the best at understanding the family feudness of this event they were in with the crowd because there were people shouting out these answers folks and i know that they were doing it because we were the furthest away in the middle of the stage.
And we could hear every single people that were shouting it out. And they were right every single time.
All they had to do was say the answer that was being shouted by the entire stadium. And the nerds were the only team able to figure that out.
Nerds took Kelsey Computer. Then we leapt into the Tush Push, which was an event, which I don't know why it was called the Tush Push.
Probably just a branding thing because everybody knows what the Tush Push is. But it was a contraption from our friends over at Party City.
Gotta love it. It had a duck and a jump thing.
Here's the clip of that. This is a clip of me, actually, in the beginning, testing it out.
Let me tell you, folks. It's pretty good.
It was hard to, like, it's bouncy.

There's something about a fat guy jumping in Tim's that's just, it's impressive.

It's almost satisfying to the eyes.

I don't know why.

I don't know if it's impressive, but it's fun to watch.

I was, like, smiling the entire time watching you do it.

I'm just like, it's coming.

One of these times, he's not going to be able to get over.

Hey, girly. You made that? Good job.
Sorry. Why, you was showing me a fish you made? All right, good.
Nice. What kind of fish was it? Was it a flounder? Goldfish? It was a blue fish.
It did have a flounder. It was very flat because it was two-dimensional, which I feel like flounder.
It's the only two-dimensional fish out there. Right.
All right. Go ahead.
But who won Tush Push? Oh, Jock. Tush Push was Jock.
Yeah, Jock's flying colors. Which there's not a video of this one.
I'm not going to lie. Sahidi just- Just ate it.
Just kept eating it. She made this competition less about jumping.
And she just decided at some point, she was like, I'm just going to out-muscle these muscle these girls we didn't clarify we should have clarified that if you get touched by the you're out that's you're out i mean she at one point was making no effort that's what i'm saying her thighs have got to just have bruises all along that right side of her bruises it was a pillow she was getting hit with a pillow jason i mean she was essentially in a ufc fight taking kicks to the uh leg i mean it was so funny she was just like um there's no way i'm getting over this uh jump thing so i'm just gonna keep keep just getting whacked in the thighs she really struggled in that one but i mean she almost lasted i mean yeah no i actually i had to call it because the the other two girls were actually like jumping over and under yeah they were actually in it so you were on her the moment her foot stepped out because she kept putting one foot out i'm like all right i'm not going to be a stickler and say that's out but if she if both those feet off the X, she's off for Mark one more time. I'm calling it.
Yeah, well. Because that would have just been going forever.
Yeah, so the athletes won that one. And then Travis Spellingbee.
Because, of course, I can't spell squirrel. I can't spell Schwarzenegger.
I can't spell anything. Yeah, why was it called the Travis Spellingbee? Because I'm pretty sure all of them were words that I should have been able to spell that I didn't.
You can spell Gronkowski. I should be able to.
I think you can get it. G-R-O-N-K.
Gronk. Yep.
O-W. Ski.
Yep. Yeah.
Nice. I fucking love Rob Gronkowski, though, man.
Gronkowski? I fucking love Gronkowski. How could I get that one wrong? They got that one wrong, which I was surprised.
That's one of the easier ones to get. I fucking would have not been able to get Schwarzenegger, though, and I love him, too.
I don't know that anybody's getting Schwarzenegger, including Arnold himself. Can you imagine being Arnold on a Scantron trying to fill out that freaking name? What the fuck? On a Scantron? All right, it's time for my fourth grade proficiency test.
For your first question, input your name, Arnold. Fuck! I'm sorry.
There's not enough bubbles. Arnold, you passed with flying colors, but you incorrectly put your name on the Scantron, and we can't accept this.
There that doesn't want enough of a bubbles to put my name in i don't know how i just made arnold sound somewhat italian all right anyways we also had bearcat basketball player and son of edrin james jizzle james compete in the spelling bee with a huge moment at the end when the last word to Decide the Spe spelling bee was one that you guys are going to enjoy. Check out this clip.
I'm this R-R-E-L. The double R will get you.
Nailed it. It'll get you.
You either know it or you don't. It's one of those things.
Only you don't. Only question, Jizzle got right the entire competition, but he passed it with flying colors for his team, and the jocks take the Travis Kelsey spelling bee.
It's impressive. That's one of those when you're looking at it, you think the relay race, jocks are going to win that one.
Spelling bee, nerds are going to win that one. Yeah.
That's how it works sometimes. Not the case in the little baby games.
That's right. Not in the case in the case of the baby games and then out of nowhere we just decided that the last game was for all the points so every game we knew that in order to make the last game the most exciting however the first six seven events went it was going to be worth the necessary amount of points to put either team over on the other one so it was always always going to come down to the sports pod relay race.
So ridiculous. And team academics crushed it.
Team athletes really got stuck finding the genes for Jason. Was there ever genes? There was.
They found it eventually. As soon as I see her hightail it, nobody's checking if she fucking saw your name on those genes.
I'm just grabbing a pair i'm i'm hitting it i'm running right over it nobody checks of course they didn't check they just assume like oh there's no punishment like just grab a pair of jeans just act like it you know make it till you make it kid like come on now get called out before you lose oh no no that's not the right ones oh okay fine i'll go back and look go back and look. I didn't even know.
I didn't even know. Oh, I thought it said, oh, it said jeans.
I thought it said Jason. Oh, that's Levi? That's Levi? I thought that said Jason.
So, either way, Jock's with a come from behind victory. Sahidi, again, struggled with the squirt squad game.
She really just could not get that water into the bucket. Finally gets over to the jeans.
But the nerds really took the lead on the jeans section and officially became the winners of the first ever Great Lumb Baby Games. Let's give it up for the nerds.
Let's give it up for these nerds. Congratulations, team academic.
Just out here doing nerd work, finding a way to win in every phase of life.

I love it.

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There's a lot of camera angles.

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We're not ESPN.

We got to figure that out. So it's going to take a little bit.
It's going to take a little bit of time. It's going to take us a second.
I thought it was a good first run, Trav. Dude, it was unbelievable.
It was awesome. It was interesting to try that out.
I didn't know how it was going to go. Luckily, the University of Cincinnati really came through, as well as Party City.
So fucking cool, man. And, of course, our own team at New Heights.
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Get started with your free trial at wondery.com slash plus. And then after this, of course, we had to get to the regular part of the show, which we got to after the Vince and Baby Games.
Yeah, let's talk about the actual live show. Again, we're going to be putting all these videos up on YouTube eventually.
We kicked off the show with a message from uh the jabroni mayor himself that's right cincinnati's no longer no longer jabroni pervil don't be a jabroni know your role and make some noise and let's welcome new heights live it was awesome actually pureville dude he was awesome i think i appreciated him for for showing up we could. We could shake his hand and just tell him we appreciate what he's doing for the university, what he's doing for the city of Cincinnati, because that place has changed a lot.
It's doing great, man. Jason, since me and Jason were there.
And it's really cool to see how much they've not only cleaned up the city, but how much more fun it looks like the city is.

Yeah, it just looks like it's an electric city

and it's thriving from the time that we were there.

Not that it wasn't when we were there,

but you can tell they've really put a lot of effort

in getting it to where it is today.

I remember not even being able to walk on short on vine.

I mean, Cincinnati was wonderful when we were there.

I remember living down by Cincinnati Taft and there wasn't a soccer stadium over there. Exactly.
You know, and it was. They've been doing some really good things.
Even down by the river. Down on the river, they got that thing up and running, and it's thriving down by Bank of America Ballpark.
I think that's what it's called. No, Great American Ballpark.
Not Bank of America. Great American ballpark.
Murray-Aftab and the city of Cincinnati is thriving right now, and that was evident in our visit there this past week. It was a lot of fun.
It was cool seeing all the changes that have happened around campus, downtown. They've gone above and beyond to really take Cincinnati to the next level, and I can't wait to see how that future continues to unfold.
Yeah. And it was an awesome gesture by the mayor to introduce us.
It really brought things full circle with the trash talk that ensued a couple years ago to all of a sudden, we're all in this for Cincinnati right now. It was a great moment to come back to the fact that we all care about the 5-1-3, right? And we were joined by some awesome guests, man.
We had Desmond Ritter came out first, gave the Bearcats a familiar face to be able to cheer on and listen to. And I'll tell you what, man.
It did. Des, every time I hang out with him, man, it's just more and more i'm impressed by who he is and and how he carries himself couldn't be happier for how his uh how his career ended at the university of cincinnati you know obviously losing in the college football playoffs but he um he carried this program to to places that we hadn't been before new heights all right now he really he really did man he really did he took uh he took the program to new heights with fickle and um sure enough um he gave a lot of us uh alumni a lot of the ex-players something prideful to uh to watch and uh talk about so absolutely and then just see him do his thing in the nfl and be able to you know stand on being a being a solid quarterback, being a great guy, being family-oriented, and just doing things the right way, man.
I'm happy as hell for him. And sure, I mean, it was just an awesome interview.
Absolutely. Great person, great Bearcat.
Can't wait to see what he does this year in Arizona. A little bit fresh start, which sometimes is the best thing you need.
Yeah. You know, what Des did at Cincinnati, speaks for itself.
He's the most successful quarterback in the history of Bearcat football. As much as Zach Kolaris will probably be upset that we're announcing that.
Our former teammate who we love, Anthony Pike. You just can't dispute what Ritter was able to accomplish in his time frame.
And don't get me wrong, Zach appreciates Des. Like, he gives Des all the love.
We just love Zach Kolaris. We do.
We're Zach Kolaris guys.

I also love Dez, especially after interviewing him on the show.

You could just tell what an unbelievable teammate, leader,

and just overall how important it is to him.

And a little bit upset that he didn't have a great Uncle Woody story.

He was so straight-laced that he didn't have something that was ridiculous.

But I think that that's what you want in your star quarterback yeah either that or he just knows what he's doing and he ain't letting the cat out of the bag then we had uh we had former uh chief turned cincinnati bangle orlando brown one of my favorite teammates of all time man that's right talking about his dad's uh water boy moment um to get him how to sometimes you got to tap in. You just got to go somewhere that nobody else knows how to get there, man.
And it's so cool hearing some of the stories that Orlando shared, not only with his time in Baltimore, Kansas City, but obviously now that he's a Bengal in front of that crowd. It was pretty cool to see.
Yeah, and and lastly i think the crowd was crazy all evening but there was one moment when it got easily the loudest that it could possibly get in that building and that's the moment joe burrow came out of that tunnel i mean yeah joey everybody lost it one bit no he was, he was, dude, such a good dude, man.

Such a good dude.

Such a competitor.

Great dude, shared great stories.

He's obviously a known big alien guy.

Oh, that's what we share, baby.

We big on aliens.

We don't want to spoil too much of our conversation with Joe,

but he was more than open about a lot of things that have taken place throughout his career and kind of what's happening currently. And also with who is the spicier white boy, Travis or Joe.
It was awesome. It was awesome to see him.
Incredibly nice of him to agree to come on the show as was Orlando Brown and Des Ritter. All of these conversations were a joy for us.
And can't thank you guys enough for coming on, man. Forever grateful, man.
Appreciate you guys. Lastly, we ended the night in a truly epic fashion.
Neither of us got a chance to walk during a graduation ceremony. We both have already got our degrees.
I got mine maybe a few years after Jason did, but we had our degrees going into it. So all of you that are thinking this was a graduation ceremony because we just finished our degrees and it was a very like serious thing we appreciate uh cincinnati's president and athletic director for doing this um but it was kind of just a fun way to close out the night hopefully you guys can understand that me chugging the beer was because i had a beer in my hand and i had to receive the diploma so i had to to get the beer out of my hand some way.
Might as well just finish it. It happened to be full.
Don't know how that happened. Well, it kind of stayed full, as we saw when you threw it on the ground and there was still beer pouring out of it.
Pouring out of it? That was more like foam. It was foam because I couldn't get the airflow.
There's not that much foam in the can, Travis.

Yeah, there is one.

You can't get the airflow and it's just like dumping out.

If there's anything anybody should have been upset with,

it's the fact that you didn't finish that chug.

That's my mind. I did finish the chug.

That's why I was upset, is that there was just way too much spillage

to consider that a successful chug.

Jason, you were scared to race me.

I was not scared. You were scared.
I was willing. You're terrifying.
I'm was you're terrifying you were terrified all right we'll get to this you don't want the misery that's coming yeah sorry for everybody that got upset about this we i mean it just wasn't that kind of event it wasn't that serious there were two women wrestling in a vat of chili before this that's the athletic director with me. And I don't, I've never been to a commencement because I skipped mine, but I'm pretty sure the athletic director isn't the person that hands you to your diploma.
He is now. I loved receiving this diploma from John Cunningham.
I prefer it from nobody else. It was an absolutely fun night littered with all sorts of shenanigans um and you know in the words of the great charles barkley i don't think travis or i should be anybody's role model i think that's probably fair to say we love we love chuck we love we do love the kids and we love chuck i think if you would have finished your beer i think people would have been way upset with you.
I think that was the main thing that got people upset. It was a tall boy.
I had already had a few. I was showing that there was beer in the can by doing the water.
Yeah, you go away from the mouth to show that it's actually going. It's making its entrance.
Yes, and I'm not just faking it. There's foam when you do that, Jason, if you don't have the correct airflow,

which I couldn't break if you can open and chug it. I know full well the amount of acceptable foam in a beer can chug.

It was beyond the threshold of an acceptable...

Like if we chugged off and you slammed that on the ground,

I would for sure be calling for a...

Well, if we were chugging a beer, I wouldn't do it out of a can

where there was no airflow. It would be a shotgun and would have airflow there were that way it wouldn't foam up all i'm saying people chug out of beer cans all the time if there's that much foam coming out of the can i think universally we can accept that that is not a complete chug no that's all i'm saying nope i chugged faster than you well i guess we'll let twitter decide twitter decide please please please make sure you tell make sure you tell Travis that he did not finish his chug and that was the most unacceptable moment of that show.
I don't know how we're going to top this at our next live event. Cincinnati truly made it a special evening.
Not only the people there, which were into it the entire time, but the entire Cincinnati staff on hand at Fifth fifth third arena it was remarkable how well this thing went off without a hitch especially considering travis and i had nothing to do with any of it these guys just made it such a wonderful evening as well as our own new heights team we're going to continue to these guys out. The creativity and thought process that went into this was spectacular.

The guests that showed up.

The president of the university.

It was an amazing night in Cincinnati.

And I don't know that we'll ever be able to top what just occurred.

So really, really big shout out to everyone involved

and everyone who attended.

And all the 92%ers, Bearcats, and of course, Swifties that were at the event.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, guys.

Oh, we also got a sweet video from Operation Breakthrough.

Nice.

OB.

Which, of course, Travis and 87 and Running has participated with in the past, they sent over this clip of your graduation. Congratulations! You did it! I want to be just like you.
Yeah, it's a big inspiration because it makes me want to finish school and to tell myself to keep going and not to stop. We love you trust, Kelsey.
Thank you. Yep.
Just when you think you're not a role model, they send you a video. See what Travis did? Just you want to be exactly like I do? How awesome would have been if they all like chugged apple juice? Dude, this is awesome.
I love it. The Operation Breakthrough kids are just the sweetest, man.

I still got to get my truck over to Operation Breakthrough if they're going to turn that thing electric.

My old school Chevy.

Get these kids on there.

Get it in line because after what we saw them do to the Chevelle that they turned electric,

I'm pretty sure everybody in the city wants to get their old school turned electric. As it was on display at the Kelsey Car Jam.
Hopefully we have another one of those this year where we can showcase the Bronco that they're actually converting at this moment. Yeah, they're converting an old school Bronco into electric.
The team is working on getting all that live show videos out to you guys AS asap but please uh be patient with it it'll be worth it at the end when when we get that thing perfect please follow the show on all social media um and subscribe on the youtube channel so uh you don't miss when those videos drop we're gonna keep doing this live show thing i i believe it was uh it was something me and jason both had a fucking blast with and um we'll definitely keep everyone in the loop on when we're doing another one. The arena deal was pretty fun, but Jason is pretty set on doing a stadium at some point.
I really want to do the link. I'm just going to throw this out there.
I think doing an episode in the link, I know that being inside made it happen way better, but gosh, feel like the link would be so special well the link is the fucking link and if you have an event in the link it'd be unbelievable but the link also holds 80 000 jason well hey you have to get some good guests i don't know are you questioning you questioning Philadelphia fans? I don't think you're questioning Philadelphia fans.

I'm questioning me, Jason.

That's what I'm questioning.

I'm questioning who is going to show up.

But yeah, shout out to Cincinnati.

Appreciate you guys.

Love you guys.

Everybody involved.

It was unbelievable.

Hey, just want to say how grateful we are for the experience and the time that everybody put in.

Absolutely.

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Jason, you made a WrestleMania appearance. I did.
It happened. Dude.
Pretty awesome. Talk about the link.
There's 80,000 people in here packed for WrestleMania. Jason got out of the house and went down to the link for WrestleMania 40.
Right in Philly. And damn, you and Lane did not disappoint.
You guys look like a tag team nobody wants to fuck with I'm not gonna lie my biceps are looking good look at that yeah how much did you how much did you guys lift before you guys went out there we were using a lot of bands and Kylie kept making fun of me because I was really obsessed with how my biceps looked I'm proud of you they look great honest answer I'm not gonna hide they look not ashamed they look like thighs. Going in there with a cutoff.
I'm going to get them things popping. Dude, there's nothing more electric than cutoff jeans and Tim's.
It just shows that he's a hardworking man and you don't fuck with that. Yeah.
You just don't fuck with that. And then you jumped over the rope.
The double jump over the rope was one of the most athletic things I think i've seen you do i feel like people think it's that hard you that's a steel cable that is like has some elasticity to it and um i just vaulted you can tell you've ran from the cops and and jumped the fence before that's what that's what i saw i'm like dude he just got out of there You had the luchador mask on were people screaming uh it was you when you walked out when you got everyone knew everyone knew immediately well who was close to us there were people from i've seen some social clips of people further away that like who's that that couldn't tell but anybody that was up close and personal um knew right away it was lane and i

knew it was lane johnson and jay mysterio see what i did there yeah let's get out of there dude ray mysterio was one of our fucking favorites he was like one of the he was one of the guys that could he was an acrobat he was just ariel at all times just doing flips and just cool ass shit What was that Nintendo 64 game?

It was like WCW versus NWO.

Oh, yeah. all times just doing flips and just cool ass shit what was that nintendo 64 uh game with right it was like wcw versus nwo oh yeah yeah oh yeah you want to talk ray was the one that like it was the most fun to play with him because he could do all like the different acrobats and finish all the cool shit it's awesome god damn that just took me back to all those fucking sleepovers when we were 10 years old it's a great game very solid game when did you find out what you were exactly going to do at wrestlemania uh we knew that we were going to be involved with these masks uh but we didn't really find out uh the full extent until pretty much like two hours right before the show there's like a little attaboy backstage area that you're kind of like figuring things out um nice so they're like it like a new Heights production.
You just find out like five minutes before you go out there what's going on. Pretty much, yeah.
The whole time I thought we were kind of like behind the eight ball here, but it looks like we're pretty spot on with the best productions in the world. We knew we were on Ray's team, which they didn't have to tell us that.
So from there, it was just, you know, operation, get it done. Yeah.
Also, I thought Ray Mysterio was going to be way smaller. You and Ray Mysterio are the exact same size.
We are. We are the same size.
You can tell just by that photo alone. Don't look at the next one.
Oh, yeah. I didn't see the next one.
Biceps not looking as good in that one. So at one lane i think lane wanted to take his shirt off he's like you want to take your shirt off so then i ripped mine off like the hulkster and then i proceeded to look like you know i was trying to keep my shirt on because i'm really developing this burke cries i feel like i'm still in burke chryser's freaking bit and i don't steal your bit, Burt, but I feel like this was a big bear.
This is an acceptable time to have that shirt off. You're just a big bear.
That shit's hilarious. I can say that it was fun as hell watching you up there.
Knowing that we used to fuck around as WWF at WWE fucking jabronis as kids, man. It was cool to see you up there having some fun.
Oh, dude. You also got to meet The Rock backstage, dude.
How electric was that? Well, I've met him before, actually. He came to the Eagles facilities, trained him before one of the WWE events earlier in my career.
He probably doesn't remember that, but I remember it because I think everybody remembers when you meet The Rock for the first time. All right now.
But it was awesome to see him again, obviously under different pretenses this time. And I'm just happy he's back involved with WWE in a very meaningful way.
He's been such an explosive personality for the wrestling world. And obviously he's gone on to, I don't want to say bigger and better things, but to become the superstar he is outside of the wrestling world.
I think selfishly, everybody in the wrestling community is happy to see The Rock back. Even if he's talking shit to Jalen, pissed off all of Philadelphia.
Yeah, he's the villain right now. I know.
Well, they call him The Heel In wrestling, the villain is called the heel. Found that one out this week.
There you go. There you go.
Awesome seeing The Rock. I don't know if there's a more iconic individual in America right now than The Rock.
Oh, if there's one more thing I want to say about WrestleMania, and I mentioned this there, I think they should figure out a way to get the commentators in the live performance because the live performance is incredible. You're hearing the pounding of the ring.
It really echoes, and it makes you feel like you're a part of it. There's really an element that I think you get from McAfee or whoever's doing the commentating when they're like, from the top rope, oh my gosh, how is he ever going to do it, ladies and gentlemen like that adds this excitement to it that um i really think it would have taken it to the next level but yeah i hear you on that yeah it's probably not great audio quality um yeah but i'm sure there's a reason they don't do it i guarantee you they've thought about this yes yeah yeah you're probably okay well um other out of the house news we have travis at coachella that's right after the live show travis didn't stop being out of the house he took a plane over to california and went to coachella music festival not your first time there travis you and i have both been numerous times yeah it's a fun weekend of festivities I love live music, man.
I absolutely love live music hard i don't get enough of it in my life i really enjoy any event like i just like going to events going places where people are um seeing uh talents that all these talented people in the world like i just like to like to experience that type of Like, I love experiencing new cultures. That's the one thing that I really enjoy about Coachella is that it's not just one genre of music.
Genre? I agree. It's everything.
It's everything. I mean...
That's where I first saw Chromio. Dude, the Funk Lords.
Man, I fucking love the Funk Lords. They really do have every genre you can think of at Coachella.
I mean, not a lot of country acts. Every single one.
A couple years ago, Danny Elsman, like composer, he had like a symphony playing in the desert. It was unbelievable.
They got everything there. Yeah, they got everything.
It's always like creative, good artists, like great artists. Yeah, I always appreciated it, man.
And it was fun. It was fun getting out there and seeing a few new bands that I really wasn't that familiar with and just became an absolute lover of their music because of how they perform and how they captivated the crowd and got everybody into it.
The Bleachers, my guy Jack Attenhoff, absolutely ripped it. And I had so fun seeing him go go nuts with the guitar and um all his uh all his boys he had two two sax players two drummers two guitars and they just ripped it and it was so much fun everybody kind of had their own uh time on the keyboard it was.
That was fun as hell to watch.

One of my favorite bands out right now, Jungle.

They absolutely killed it.

Nice.

Played one of my favorite songs called Casio.

And I was out there moving to that joint.

Casio.

Playing on my heart.

Gosh, who else did I say?

Oh, how could I forget?

My guy, Dom Dalla. Dom Dalla.
One of my favorite DJs out here man Dom Dalla Dom Dalla yeah he absolutely kills it every single time and sure enough it was his own set at Coachella he did two sets he's also in a combined DJ group with John Summit and they did one the day, so I didn't get to see that one because I was still working. But Saturday was such a fun, fun day, man.
And, yeah, I love going to Coachella, man. Hopefully I can keep going, but obviously you know the schedules always fill the fuck up real quick in the offseason.
Dude, the one thing you got to be ready for at Coachella, you got to take your hands on. It is some walking and dancing like you're moving at coachella there's like seven different stages yeah i guess who'd you we know who you went with we saw the pictures all right we know who you went with she's supporting the uh the new heights difference big big supporter yeah sold out of the green hat real quick um it's a good it's a good color green how was Coachella different because I expected you guys to be backstage like mostly like with the musicians right but it seemed like you guys were like in the crowd I'd like to see it front from the from the fans perspective like the people that actually like like because I am I'm a I'm a fan of the music I'm a fan of live shows i want to see it from the front of the stage yeah we we probably could have finessed it that way but i think it's just that much more of an experience if you're in the uh if you're in the pit man if you're in the the madness with all the uh all the fans were your feet it was awesome though all the walking no gosh so one thing i regret year is how much walking it is.
It's amazing every year, but it's a lot of walking. It's really not.
Oh, you're out of your mind. Dude, we barely...
Dude, we were walking... You're walking from stage to stage, you're walking to the bathroom, which is like a...
Well, if you know the terrain, Jason, you know how to get to each stage quickly and efficiently. Yeah, but it's just a lot.
It's a lot. And then you got to know.

Where we're like walking to whatever house we're staying at.

I got a cheat code.

I know where to stay where it's just like a quick like black walk once you're out of there.

No, no, no, no, no.

I thought I had that too.

I know exactly where those houses are and it's still a walk.

No, you don't.

No, you don't.

Yeah.

You're insane.

You don't know.

It's a lot of walking.

Listen, Coachella's great. Just get ready to walk.
Not a sandals of it. Not a sandals of it.
No, it're not. Yeah.
You're insane. It's a lot of walking.
Listen, Coachella's great. Just get ready to walk.
Not a sandals. Not a sandals.
No, it is not. And if you wore sandals, that's what you fucking get, Jason.
I think we restocked the green hat, though. So everybody head over to homage.com slash newheist to get the green hat.
Those are going to be gone pretty quickly now that we just informed everyone. I know I'm going to buy a few.
I fucking love that green hat. That's a really, really good shade of green.
Coachella is always fun. Shout out to all the performers.
Shout out to Accelerator Active Energy for bringing this segment to you. Out of the house.
All right, now. All right, let's get to some No Dumb Questions.
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There we go. There you go.
If you could choose any two sports to combine together a la basketball which two sports would you choose and why it's pretty good um reading this before i immediately thought of one of my favorite movie sports scenes of all time which is happy gilmore when bob barker beats the shit out of happy it's a a great one. It's a great movie.
Solid movie. Seeing that in real life would be unbelievable.
So I'm going to say boxing and golf. I feel like we kind of did something.
I would combine NASCAR and gymnastics. It was fighting.
What sport would we allow fighting in? I think we were just changing the rules, we made nascar that you could drink and drive or something like that i think it was something like that i had drinking drinking sports that's what it was we're gonna make this very clear no do not do that um unless nascar does it you guys do not do it no don't do it even in nascar let's avoid that we don't want to to be good rolling. No, it's a big pillow nowadays.
Everybody's in that car like it's strapped down. Yeah, NASCAR and gymnastics.
NASCAR and gymnastics? This has just become Evel Knievel or some shit. They got to do like the floor mat while like a NASCAR, you got to jump over the car while it's moving full speed.
This just sounds like Nitro Circus. You got to do, and you got to land it.
You got to stick the landing. The car does like a bunch of flips and sticks it.
They'd have this actually with monster trucks. It sounds like monster trucks.
I'm not going to lie, but with regular cars. And it's probably- Dude, some of the things that these monster trucks are doing when they fly in the air- I think you're right.
Monster trucks are cooler. They are unbelievable.
Yeah, you're right. It already exists.
It's called monster trucks. All right.
I saw a clip of somebody playing hockey and football. It was like football rules on the ice.
Ooh, I did see that. That was a great...
I mean, it was nice. It's incredibly dangerous.
I mean, didn't a hockey player just have his neck slit? Can you imagine trying to tackle somebody and drag somebody down with skates attached to their feet? I don't think they had skates on. I think it was just football on ice.
Oh, they were just running? Equipment, yeah. Oh, good point.
Well, either way, terrible idea because I don't know if people know this, but ice is harder than concrete. Hard as fuck.
It sucks getting hit down on ice. Yeah.
How about swimming and sharpshooting? So what would be the weapon? It would just be like a bow, like a crossbow? you gotta tread water while you're shooting sporting clays or something like that like archery okay what's a good thing to combine with swimming? have you seen the torpedoes? the little torpedo like soccer game that they play underwater? no that sounds exciting though remember the little torpedo the rubber torpedoes they used to throw underwater and you would see it like a submarine, just like you could pass it underneath water to your friend? I don't, but it sounds great. I'm not going to lie.
All right. We used to play this all the time.
Oh, you're talking about just like the little ones that you would throw under there. They turned that into an actual game where you could fucking tackle people and hold them underwater.
It sounds like my kind of game. It is.
It is your kind of game. What about, ooh, this is a good one, lacrosse and polo.
Because it doesn't make sense that those guys on horseback are hitting that ball all the way on the ground. Just play lacrosse on horseback.
Ooh. I think that'd be a legit game.
That would be legit. Did you know you have to have like four horses per person? Per person? Why do you have to have four per person? I don't know.
I just heard that. So I thought I'd throw it out there and see if you want to call bullshit on it.
I'm calling bullshit on it. I don't really know why you would need that.
Four per person? Yeah, I don't get how that works. Endurance maybe? I don't know.
Oh, maybe that's it. They got to sub the horse in and out.
Yeah. That's my kind of sport.
Let's let the horse get tired. I'll just sit on top and have all the fun.
That's a good point. I kind of like that.
I kind of want to play it just once. Lacrosse horseback riding? Yeah, me and horses just don't.
Dude, do you remember Whirly Ball? Whirly Ball, yes. It was Bumper Cards.
It was Bumper Cards and Lacrosse. Dude, that was a great game.
Great game. That's what I'm talking about.
It's in Columbus, Ohio, for those of you that are around the Columbus area. Whirly Ball.
Make sure you guys go check it out. Are we sure that they invented that? I mean, I know it's in that area, but it's got to be elsewhere.
Dude, I've been trying to find it everywhere else, and I can't find it anywhere. Dude, what are we doing? Let's open up some Whirly Ball spots.
Dude, they're so fucking fun. I went there not too long.
I went there like four or five years ago. Do you think 1587 Prime could have a back side of the building that has a Whirly Ball court? No, this is not that kind of establishment, Jason.
This is not that kind of establishment, no. It's not? Okay.
It should be. How about skydiving? Is skydiving a sport? We can make it.
Skydiving and slam dunk contests. That'd be pretty incredible.
I don't know what, how, like, are the hoops in the air, or where are they? I mean, it's to be determined. Depends on how many points you want.
You can go all the way to the ground, but it's a lot harder to get it in there.

You got hoops at different levels.

What about skydiving and track?

Like who can get to land first?

See, now you're thinking.

Now you're thinking.

Who can get to land first?

Who's going to pull their parachute?

You're basically playing chicken.

You're essentially skydiving chicken. That's what you're describing.
I think it's a fantastic idea. It'd be very fun to bet on it.
I think it's a fantastic idea. You remember the great outdoor games when they would climb the pole and then descend as fast as possible? What? What are we doing here, guys? This is like that.
Electric is what it is. More on the line.
Way more speed. Travis Pastrano would be dead.
No. You can't kill that guy.
There's no way he's backing down. He'd figure it out, though.
He'd figure it out. It'd be some other thing.
He'd figure it out. That's what I'm saying.
He'd freaking die. Travis Pastrano doesn't die.
All right. Yeah, knock on wood.
Shout out to all the cool Travises out there that made my name cool. The only person in the world with more lives than a cat.
Travis Pastrana. And that does it for No Dumb Questions.
Brought to you by Tommy John Underwear. Time to round up some NFL news.
That's right. Let's talk about football, since this is still a football slash sports podcast, I suppose.
Starting with some Eagles updates. Devontae Smith and Jordan Malata, two of our favorites here on the show, man, got paid big time.
It was announced on Monday that the Eagles wide receiver Devontae Smith agreed to three years, $75 million, an extension that was well worth it. Smith's deal includes 51 guaranteed.

God damn.

Is Smitty an underrated part of this offense?

Do you think he doesn't get enough credit?

I mean, he's definitely not underrated by anybody on the team.

I think, listen, he's playing next to the best receiver in the NFL,

AJ Brown.

So it's easy to see that maybe he gets less credit than it's probably deserved because of the greatness that A.J. Brown has displayed.
But I can tell you anybody in the Eagles, I mean, the route running ability of Devontae Smith is insane to watch in person. Like, he's just, you talk about, like, my dance moves versus your dance moves.
This is the smoothest motherfucker I know.

Yeah, he's a smooth cat.

It is insane.

That's a smooth player right there.

The way he moves and gets out of breaks

and the level at which he entered the NFL

and how good he is.

He's silky.

Oh, my gosh.

Silky smooth on and off the field.

You see some of the things he's wearing.

He's smooth no matter what. He talks smooth.
He's also just one of those guys that in his head, he is one of the most mentally tough killers that I've played with in the best possible way. I mean, only complimentary fashion.
This is a guy you want to play football with. He embodies the mindset.
Don't let his skinny stature fool you. This guy has every bit of a football player's mindset.
I cannot say enough good things about Devontae Smith as a player, as a person, as a personality. Outstanding young man who just got three years and $75 million.
So shout out to my man, Schmitty.

That's a whole lot of money.

It's a whole lot of bread.

And former guest on the show, Jordan Malata,

is also getting paid this offseason.

Jordan and the Eagles agreed to a three-year,

$66 million contract extension,

which includes $48 million guaranteed and $20 million in the signing bonus.

He just got $20 million richer by putting his John Hancock on a paper.

That's pretty good.

I'll see you a whole lot of real estate over there in Australia. Hell yeah.
You can go over there and get all that delicious candy, that good old rich chocolate. You can order at least 15 million blooming onions at Outback with that like it is baby it's the only onion i'll eat fried yeah i mean it's probably not buying you that much i think they overcharge for the blooming onion but whatever it's damn good though man it's damn good yeah it includes a 48 million guaranteed and a 20 million million signing bonus per Adam Shifter.

Yeah, man, it's Howie season. This is what Howie does better than I think.
I mean, I'm biased, but anybody else. At finagling the situation of the cap, what players are, first of all, do in real life, but then also what is going to be their cap hit.
The Eagles are so good at moving that around and avoiding the salary cap from really ever being an issue.

I can't think of one time in my tenure with the Eagles that there has been this issue with, you know,

the cap is too high or too low or the Eagles don't have room to sign somebody that they want to. I feel like at all times they know how to move things around to get accomplished what they want to accomplish.
And I mean, you see it from other teams. They just don't move with that type of fluidity.
They get hamstrung with either guys who are really high on the books or, you know, players that are unhappy with their pay. It feels like the Eagles, I mean, we saw that last year with Hassan, right? Hassan Rick is now gone.
He wanted more money last year. I just feel like the Eagles deal with that less than anybody else.
They really are. This is one of the things they do so well is they know how to allocate these resources.
They know how to move money around. I think in part that's a credit to Howie and his understanding of all of the ins and outs of the salary cap and the full ways to take advantage of the structures of these contracts.
I think it's also a point of emphasis on Jeffrey Lurie. I mean, they have the cash to do all these things.
Because it's one thing to be able to maneuver the cap, but it's also one thing that the owner has to be willing to shell out cash at different points to make these things happen and give the resources possible to the GM to do as much as this and to allow Howie to operate with this type of freedom. I think the both of them combined, as well as other people in the building, you know, Jake, Bryce, like there's a lot of people in the building that go into making this one of the Eagles' strengths, but Howie for sure gets the credit, and he should.
They know how to extend players, when to extend players. They know how to move money around.
These numbers might look astronomical, but they know that the cap's only going up. And by doing these deals earlier, these numbers change as that cap goes up to be more in line with, or actually more of a, not in line, they are already in line, more of a deal for the Eagles long term if they believe in these guys, which they clearly do.
For good reason. Listen, I think it's certainly been a strength of the Eagles, and they have not shied away from exploiting all of the Eagles and they have not shied away from, you know, exploiting all of the rules and not carve outs, but all of the rules and different tools that are possible within the guidelines of the salary cap.
They know how to finagle all that. And it's been one of their strengths, quite frankly.
So shout out to both Jordan and Devante Smith. Both of these guys are more than deserving of these numbers.
There's a lot of guys around the league looking right now to get better contracts from their teams or to be paid what they think they're owed. And some of these teams are handcuffed.
And that's based on deals and structures that they've already done beforehand. And you're seeing it right now.
Well, I'm happy those two guys got paid. They're fucking deserving of it.
Both not, not only two of the best NFL players in the national football league, but just two of the best teammates and guys you can have around. So you love to see the good guys get paid and broke off accordingly, man, especially when they're doing shit the right way.
Packers to face Eagles in the league's first ever game in Brazil. That's right.
Eagles, Packers in the Corinthians arena down there. Week one, two.
First game of the year. Breaking it out down there in Brazil.
It's probably going to be hotter than hell. Boys, so make sure you hydrate.
Brazil is known to be right there on the equator. And we know because science.
Well, no. It'll be winter for Brazil.
It'll be winter for them down there at the equator. Does that have anything to do? I don't think so.
Are you telling me it's going to be snowing? I think we're on the equator. I don't think it really matters.
I think it's just, yeah. What is it going to be, 80 instead of 105? I think that's a big difference.
Let's be honest. You got me there.
I got myself there i guess um the corinthians arena is the home of uh brazil's soccer team uh sc corinthians it was also announced that the first game in 50 years a game will be played on friday night of the opening weekend in the nfl so in in history yeah they won't jump off the season but they'll be the second the first game that's played on Friday night. Yeah, the second game of the year will be this Friday night game.
Listen, I know a lot of people have mixed feelings about this, especially Philadelphia fans. Big travel ramifications for this home opener.
I'm excited about it. We've talked about this before.
You and I are big fans of the international games.

I think it's really cool playing in these unique situations and stadiums.

I've been to Brazil. I actually went to the Brazil for the World Cup in 2016 with some fellow teammates,

and it was outstanding.

Obviously, this is a different sport.

That was the country's national sport of soccer that I was participating with. But I went to Corinthians Arena.
We got to see a game live there. How much walking did you do? Not as much as Coachella, but it was quite a bit of walking.
Yeah, it's going to be an incredible experience. I fully anticipate that.
And Brazil is just, it's got a wonderful culture it's got great food great people a culture that likes to party so they're going to be geared up for this uh they like sports they like physical fitness sports physical fitness partying sounds like a perfect mix for the nfl listen i think i think the nfl is going to enjoy this game who do you think has more fans down there, the Eagles or the Packers? That's the real question. I think it's going to be...
Brazil strikes me as more of an Eagles crowd. Not a lot.
But yeah, big fan of Brazil. Went down there for the World Cup, stayed for a full week, saw...
I think it went to five games. Went to Rio, Sao Paulo, and Brasilia.
Who was your favorite individual player you saw at the Rio games?

I mean, the one that I was the most excited to see because of his standing in the world

at the time was Messi.

We did not go to an Argentina game.

We went to a Brazil game, though, and the other guy that was right up there with him

was Neymar.

So, got to see Neymar play in person.

Brazil won against Chile in penalty kicks. It was a fantastic game.
But we got to party on the Rio Beach with a bunch of other Americans. They had like a whole like.
Jason, you're not supposed to go down there and party with Americans. You're supposed to party with the culture.
Listen, you know us. We find each other.
We find each other. It's easy to spot just by what you're wearing.
You know right away.

That's an American right there.

Cargo shorts.

I'll tell you what, though.

Messi played in Kansas City this past weekend.

Nice.

He played in Arrowhead, actually.

It's not the same.

He played in Arrowhead.

It's not the same being in the MLS.

Why is it not?

Just saying.

Because it's the MLS.

Don't shit on the MLS.

I'm not shitting on the MLS.

I'm saying it's not international soccer. Don't do that.
When you think of soccer, I know there's all these wonderful clubs overseas. There's the MLS.
I think of the World Cup. That's all I'm saying.
It's international play, and then everything else is for me. It's all about the Premier League, dude.
I know a lot of people love the Premier League. A lot of people love Barcelona and Milan.
To me, it's all about international play for soccer. That's all I care about.
I mean, I get it. Would you ever watch the UFL? Which one was the UFL? Would you ever watch the XFL? I would.
You would watch the XFL, but you won't watch the MLS. I didn't say I won't watch it.
I'm just saying it wasn't the same level as seeing. It wouldn't like seeing Messi play for Miami is not the same as when he played in Barcelona or when he was at the world stage of the World Cup.
That's all I'm saying. That's not the same.
He just won the World Cup. Like less than a year ago.
Seeing Michael Jordan on the golf course is not the same as seeing Michael Jordan in a Bulls uniform, all right? Jason. Just being honest, it's not.
You're seeing one person on the biggest stage possible. Who do you mean? You're seeing one person on the biggest stage possible with the biggest team in history.
Like, this is the best soccer player ever at the World Cup that's different than seeing Lionel Messi

tearing it up in Kansas City.

Just saying.

Dude, it's the same.

It's Lionel Messi.

It's not the same.

Dude, it was the same when Ibrahimovic

went fucking crazy in LA.

It's great.

It's electric.

He made the MLS fun to watch last year.

I'm not saying it's not good for MLS.

I'm not saying it's not great. I'm saying it's not as good.
I'm not saying it's not good for MLS. I'm not saying it's not great.

I'm saying it's not as good.

I'm not saying it sucks that he plays in Miami.

That's awesome for the MLS, and I think it's great for American soccer.

I just think it's nowhere near when he scores a goal for Argentina

and the entire country is erupting in cheers

because it means more to Argentina than any other sport on the planet.

That's all I'm saying. All right.
Well, that's fair. I didn't think you were saying it like that at first, but I get it now.
All right. Well, shout out to Messi.
Shout out to Rio and big shout out to the NFL. Expanding the game, getting into more countries.
Hopefully Brazil brings the juice, baby. I want to see how their, how their crowd reacts to a little American football, man.
Dude. One of the thing that was the coolest thing in Brazil, first of all, every time their national team plays, they consider it a national holiday.
So the entire country shuts down. Then whenever you were at, you weren't.
So some of the games are happening in Brazil at other places while you're just out and about.

And they're so into soccer that the entire country would erupt to the point that you could hear a cheer happening from everybody

in the city of Rio.

That's cool.

De Janeiro.

You could hear that erupt the moment Brazil scored

while you're just walking down the street.

That's so fucking dope. Yeah, it was dope.
It was cool as well as you're walking outside the stadium at all times yep brazil just scored um there was a oh yeah also saw christ the redeemer nice yeah that was pretty cool pretty cool probably the coolest statue i think i think it takes the christ cake of uh statues yeah it's the biggest. We also got a couple updates on the Chiefs roster front.
Defensive end Mike Dana has just re-signed with the Kansas City Chiefs. Dana recorded career-high best in sacks and tackles for loss last season.
I think it's a big signing for you guys. Very unheralded player, I think, nationally.
He's just tough as nails. Just comes to work every single day with his fucking lunch pail, man.
He's got a little, like, I'm trying to figure out how to describe this to fans. But so when you have like a third down package out there, you typically have players that are certain roles.
Mike Dana fills that role of like he can run a game with anybody. He can drop out into coverage.
He can win one-on-one matchups at a surprising rate over a guard because he's got a level of athleticism that's unique when you're rushing over a guard. I think that he is a big part of allowing Coach Spaggs to be creative in these blitz packages.
You'll see him do a lot of different things with Mike Dana. He's a guy that I was always assessing where he was at because you would try and, okay, because it was 51, right? Yeah, 51.
He's like that chess piece that a lot of it stems off of. Correct.
So you try and get tells. Yep, some defenses call him like the adjuster.
So if he's over here, it's like, okay, I'm pretty confident. Either they're running a game over here, there's either a blitz coming over here.
Or it could just be straight up. Spags is smart enough that he knows how to hide that, but that's the type of headache that a guy like that causes teams because you consider him a three technique, but he's really like a D-end outside linebacker playing three technique because he's a little bit bigger and he can win that matchup on the guard as well as run games, as well as drop off into coverage.
These are guys that, in my opinion, don't really get the credit they deserve, but they're big pieces within the defensive structure. So I actually think this is a really good signing and happy to see these back in Kansas City.
Shout out to Mike for being back in KC. Yeah, Mike.
And something we didn't get a chance to talk about on the show over the past couple weeks, the Chiefs have also signed former European Rugby League star Luis Rees Zammet. Rees Zammet, I have no idea if I'm pronouncing this right.
Yep, I don't even know. I have no idea either.
I've talked to him, though, and he's pumped. Is he French? No, he's Welsh.
He's from Wales. Look at this debonair dude, man.
He's just got the big white teeth. He's an attractive guy, I'm the titanic he loves music from beyonce and adele the guy is just as suave as it gets when i think of welsh i think of just i think british people call him posh i think of like these rich upper class just beautiful white people and he is like just the the running stereotype of what I would think of with a welsh person um i don't know if that's an accurate like stereotype that i have in my head but that's certainly what i think of and he's helping continue that trend in my mind well there you go i'm excited to see what this guy does i don't know about you i'm pumped too and he said uh he's ready for the lateral whenever when we were texting.
Oh, nice. Nice.
Well, listen, he played rugby. So he's going to be ready for that thing.
Came in as the same program as Jordan Millada, the International Player Pathway Program. So it won't cost you guys a roster spot unless you're 53.
Yeah, I think he even went to IMG too. I'm pretty sure he went to IMG.
Well, it's very similar. One of the good things about this pathway is that it allows teams to take chances on guys without having to incur a roster spot.
So the only way Luis will count against the Chiefs is if he makes a 53. I think that's how that works.
Outside of that, they're basically guaranteeing him a shot at potentially playing in the NFL, which I really hope this is a smashing success. The more international players that you see get the chance means the more international.
The game's growing. Yeah.
And you start to see kids from those areas or kids from all over start playing the game a little bit more because one of their own from their backyard found a way to be on top of a sport and be a part of a very small percentage of players that make it. And it's cool to see.
I really just enjoyed the guy's energy so far. He's super excited about the opportunity that he's been given, knowing that not everybody gets these opportunities.
And And he was an absolute star in the European league that he was in,

the European Rug that he was in, the European rugby league that he was in. So for him to make the jump and try and go from Wales to Kansas City, man, it's a pretty ballsy move and a pretty cool move to be making, man.
Lewis has wasted no time. He just got done working out with Pat and some of the guys down in Texas this past weekend.
Travis, you said he talked to you. When did you get the chance to talk to him? And have you heard Pat say whether he's good or not? No, I haven't talked to Pat about him yet.
Yeah, Lewis, he's down there working hard, man. It's going to be a humbling experience.
Yeah, it's going to be a humbling experience at first. It's not easy to just make that jump.
They're two completely different games. But he is an athlete, and that's what the Chiefs saw.
He's a smart kid. He's a smart player.
So he's going to be able to pick up the offense eventually. But it's going to be a tough few months for him here while he's getting acclimated to the NFL where we've been doing this since we were kids.
So, and we've been playing this game. So we're just going to have just those little instincts that we've, we've built over the years that he has to start to catch up with.
So biggest advice I gave him was just try not to let it overwhelm you as much as it can. And just know that everybody believes that you have the potential to be able to play.
So just absorb as much as you can. Learn as much as you can in the short time that you'll have before the season.
Listen, I'm excited. I know there's going to be a learning curve.
I hope this guy takes the world by fucking storm. Me too, man.
It will be electric. And I mean, with a smile like that, this guy is, if he works out, he's going to be the most marketable player of all time.
Look at that. Yeah, we got to love a debonair young man.
All righty, and that wraps up another episode of New Heights, everyone. That's right.
Yes, it does. Man, it's good to be back.
I love the guests. Sometimes I just love bullshitting with Trav.
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