Arnold Schwarzenegger on His Iconic Movies, Sculpting a Retirement Body and Being Useful | Ep 84

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Speaker 1 Listen, my heart is pumping right now because we have the king of pump.

Speaker 2 The king, the originator of pumping iron. Our guest today is seven-time Mr.

Speaker 1 Olympia, the former governor of California.

Speaker 2 He has grossed an estimated $4 billion at the box office. You know him from some of your favorite movies like Commando, Predator, True Lies, Kindergarten Cop, Jingle All the Way.

Speaker 1 It's the goddamn Terminator. That's right, we got Arnold Twitch today.

Speaker 1 Woo!

Speaker 1 Wow. Fire up, baby.

Speaker 1 That was fantastic. That's kind of a new evolution.
As long as Artie approves it. You can't believe it's the baby oil.

Speaker 1 He's supposed to be oiled up when you introduce me.

Speaker 1 That was great. That was really fantastic.

Speaker 2 Arnold, I cannot cannot tell you, the moment we found out you were coming on the show, just so much excitement. Oh, man.
You were such a huge part of our childhood and what we aspired to be.

Speaker 2 So to have you on the show, it's like coming full circle for both of us.

Speaker 1 So thank you for coming on.

Speaker 2 It's truly an honor.

Speaker 1 Well, thank you very much. And

Speaker 1 I was so excited when I heard I was invited on the show.

Speaker 1 Because there is nothing that I love more than, first of all, talking to great athletes and

Speaker 1 great athletes that are branching out

Speaker 1 and finding another thing to do and finding their other talent yeah because it's it's it's always it's always great when you're a champion in one thing right in athletics if it's boxing if it's karate if it's in football or the tennis or whatever it is bodybuilding weightlifting whatever it may be but

Speaker 1 that always ends Yes, right? And then no matter which, except maybe, I don't even know what sport, maybe dancing you can do until later on, ballroom dancing or something like that.

Speaker 1 But I mean, in most cases, it ends. And so you have to think what is your next move.
And you have to create that vision early on because you start moving in that direction then.

Speaker 1 And so you guys are out there now. You started like last year or so, you started this podcast, and it's going through the roof.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I mean, everyone talks about it.
It's fantastic. And two brothers.
I mean, how great is that? Especially. Because we have two brothers work together and really kind of play off each other.

Speaker 1 And you guys are doing it so well. I've watched some of them.
And I mean, you're really talented and you speak well and you're full of energy.

Speaker 1 And you ask interesting questions and you say funny things. And it's kind of all kind of mixed up together.
No, but it's so cool.

Speaker 1 So I immediately, when they asked me to come on this show, I said, oh, yeah, I don't even have to think about this because this guy is so talented. And

Speaker 1 I know you have now retired, right? Yep, yep. And so that means you're going to continue on winning another Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Well, fire me up.

Speaker 1 Fire me up, Arnie. What else? What else are you going to do?

Speaker 1 You're going to win another Super Bowl. That's what it is.
As a matter of fact, why not another one after that?

Speaker 1 So there should be no stopping in sight.

Speaker 1 But you now,

Speaker 1 you know, and

Speaker 1 this is maybe off the record, but no one is

Speaker 1 gonna blabber out there anyway. He's probably here doing some interviews for movie parts.
Oh, yeah. Don't you think so? He definitely needs to.

Speaker 1 Because I said to myself, there's something odd because a lot of times you guys do the show where you were in another place and you were at another place, right?

Speaker 1 And it's a split-screen thing, which really works well.

Speaker 1 But now you're together because you're in Hollywood. That's right.
And so there is a reason. So I'm not stupid, right?

Speaker 1 There is a reason why those guys are out here together in Hollywood. I mean, you know, there's all kinds of interviews being scheduled, I know, for movie parts, for Blowing Hero Road.

Speaker 1 You got any parts for it? No, but you guys have it lined up. You just don't want to give it away right now.
I know the way this works.

Speaker 2 How do you pick the movie parts?

Speaker 1 Because the breadth of...

Speaker 2 action to a movie like Twins with Danny DeVita. How did you know always to pick the movie that was just going to kill it? Like, what was that process?

Speaker 1 Well, you know, to be very honest, I was not able to pick it all the time. Gotcha.

Speaker 1 Because I've had movies that went through the roof, like, you know, Twins or Kindergarten Cop and Conan and Terminator and those films. But there were other movies like Hercules in New York.

Speaker 1 I mean, they went in the toilet. I mean, went straight in the toilet.

Speaker 1 So there were movies that I made like that that made no money. and went in the toilet.
So you cannot always win. There's no such thing.

Speaker 1 And this is why, you know, I always talk also about the losses, because you've got to acknowledge the losses. Because we learn not only from victories, but we learn a lot from our losses.

Speaker 1 And when you're down,

Speaker 1 how do you get back up again? And how do you get to the next and have a victorious kind of a movie?

Speaker 1 But I was very happy that overall I've chosen some really good movies and that I was able, like you said,

Speaker 1 when you were pumping me up and you guys were disputing between The Rock and Arnold, right?

Speaker 2 There's no dispute here.

Speaker 1 No, but

Speaker 1 there's a dispute because he was partially right because The Rock is stronger now than I am. He has more muscles than I have right now.
His movies are doing really well.

Speaker 1 So there's nothing to be taken away from The Rock. But the fact of the matter is...

Speaker 1 My tail was between my legs as you walked in.

Speaker 1 I'm very happy with the overall kind of inventory of what I've created in show business.

Speaker 1 And I think this is the important thing is to be able to go and do kind of like a a movie like Conan the Barbarian, where you expose yourself and your bodies out there.

Speaker 1 And then you do a science fiction movie like, you know, Terminator, and then you're number one in that.

Speaker 1 Then you go to do something like a comedy, like Twins, and then you're number one in that in the box office. And it gross, you know,

Speaker 1 almost $300 million. So this is really great, great victories.

Speaker 1 Or then to go to, like, for instance, with Netflix to do Fubah, to go for the first time in the TV series, and then that being number one. So

Speaker 1 So I celebrate a lot of great, great victories, I have to say, with some defeats, no two ways about that. If it's in bodybuilding, I had my victories.

Speaker 1 In weightlifting, I had my victories, but I also had my defeats in bodybuilding and in weightlifting, in powerlifting, and all those kinds of things. And in movies,

Speaker 1 and in my personal life. So I mean, so you know, you go through that and you have your ups and downs.
Yeah, absolutely. You never put yourself in a box, though.
That's what I always admired.

Speaker 1 You were never nervous or seemed scared to like jump into a new world something that you weren't known for and i think that is the the biggest thing that i took out of like just your overall professionalism in all sports entertainment politics is that you always found a way to relate to people and show people that you could do it well yeah you know i was i i love challenges yeah and i think that you guys too yes i think that you guys

Speaker 1 i love the hardest challenges too man the ones you really get too it's like really really challenging. And so I love challenges.

Speaker 1 I love when someone says, oh, this is really risky, Arnold, to do twins because, you know, the people love to see in action movies, but I don't know if they will go for it, that you're in a comedy.

Speaker 1 And of course, I say, okay, so don't pay me.

Speaker 1 I say, don't pay me. Just make me.
be part owner of the film. Who had the last movie? I take the risk, just like you take the risk.

Speaker 1 And sure enough, I made more money in that movie like in any other movie. Oh, yeah, Baroness.

Speaker 1 Exactly. So that's what I did.
But I mean, it worked. One of the things that I talk about in my book, Be Useful,

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 don't listen to the naysayers. I mean, how many times have you said it's impossible? You're not going to do that, right?

Speaker 1 We heard this our whole lives.

Speaker 1 And so, I remember when I ran for governor, they said, Arnold, they're going to eat you alive. I mean, this is so dangerous to do that.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're going to throw out your movie in a career, and you're going to go in there, and they're going to belittle you, and the press is going to be all over, especially you're a Republican and running in a state like California that's a liberal state, and it's going to be horrible.

Speaker 1 And I said to myself, hey, I see myself as the governor of California.

Speaker 1 I know that I can do better than those idiots up in Sacramento. That I know for sure, I said to myself, so I'm going to go and jump in there.

Speaker 1 I'm going to announce it on a tonight show, not the official kind of announcements like they make with the American flag in the background noise.

Speaker 1 I did it on a tonight show to throw everything off a little bit, right? I went on there and announced it.

Speaker 1 And from that point on, two months later, I was governor of the state of California.

Speaker 1 So you cannot worry about those things. You've got to go all out.

Speaker 1 It's now or never. I mean, so I always go all out and I write different things, like this book.

Speaker 1 I mean, I never saw myself as a motivational speaker or someone that writes motivational books or self-help books and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 But I've been asked, I said, you know, I already want to do this book because we have heard your speeches. And I said to myself, yeah, I think that this could be number one,

Speaker 1 what I have to say. And when it came out, I mean, for six months, it has been on a bestseller list.
I mean, think about that, for six months. So everything is kind of, I go for number one.

Speaker 1 That's what I do. You know, like with the commercial.
I mean, think about it. We did the Super Bowl commercial, right? Number one, bang, number one.
USA Today had that survey,

Speaker 1 one commercial. So I love those things, even though this is not the business that I'm in to do commercials.
But I mean,

Speaker 1 Joe Namath.

Speaker 1 Joe Namath. Do you remember Joe Namath? Absolutely.
From way back. So when I came to this country, I was so jealous of him.
Why is that?

Speaker 1 Well, because in bodybuilding, I had to go and do bricklaying jobs. I made no money in bodybuilding.
There was nothing. There were no sponsorships or anything.

Speaker 1 And Joe Namath was on television, this great football player. And he was on television and I'm watching TV and I'm seeing him advertising and endorsing pantyhose.

Speaker 1 And I said, are you fucking kidding me? This fucking guy is the number one football player that everyone watches in America. Everyone is watching football and baseball.

Speaker 1 And I'm in a sport that no one watches. And this is like a subculture kind of a thing.
You hear that, Patty Mahomes? Patty Holmes, baby. And Patty's Patty.
And this guy is this guy's

Speaker 1 next. This guy is known.
Oh, look how handsome he looks. Look how beautiful he looks.
And he puts on all the covers of the magazines. All the articles are written about him.

Speaker 1 And then he does these endorsements. And then, way back then, he gets a million dollars for an endorsement.
Way back then, I'm talking about now the late 70s. That's a lot of money.

Speaker 1 The 70s, the early 70s,

Speaker 1 so this was huge. So, I mean, it just was amazing.
So I said to myself, I got to go and do something to build the sport of bodybuilding, to build it up so it gets some popularity.

Speaker 1 It would never get to be like football, but to get some popularity. And that was then my mission.

Speaker 1 When I get out of bodybuilding competition, to go and start promoting bodybuilding competitions and to raise the cash prices and to get sponsorships involved.

Speaker 1 And we now have the number one bodybuilding competition, the Arnold Classic in Columbus, Ohio. That's right.
So cool, man.

Speaker 2 I was talking to Arnold before we got on here, but we used to to go at the University of Cincinnati, we'd go up to the Arnold Classic, one, to see all of these amazing competitors, either bodybuilders or strong men.

Speaker 2 I mean, all of the weightlifting community goes to this thing. It's the biggest weightlifting convention that I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 And we would go up there because all the supplement companies are up there in college because you don't have a lot of money. You're just trying to get some supplements.

Speaker 2 So that's kind of how we did it.

Speaker 2 Every year we'd make the trip, see some unbelievable people. That's the first time I ever saw Arnold in person.

Speaker 2 And even from a distance, it felt like I was meeting my childhood hero, to be honest with you. So, this is awesome to be here.
We do this thing called New News, okay? One of the segments.

Speaker 2 It's one of our segments, and you being one of the most iconic line deliverers of all time. Do you mind? It's just look at that camera if you don't mind and say new news in your own Arnold way.

Speaker 2 Is that all right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.

Speaker 1 New news. Yeah!

Speaker 1 We had a feeling it'd be electric. We had a feeling it was.
Don't turn off when I say new news.

Speaker 1 God, that's good. Now it's old, baby.

Speaker 2 Well, you've certainly been busy. You've published the New York Times' number one best-selling book called Be Useful, Seven Tools for Life.
Be Useful in your Netflix docuseries.

Speaker 2 You said your father used to say that to you. That's right, yeah.
When coming up for the name of the book, like is work be useful.

Speaker 2 Has that been the mantra of Arnold and your career, reinventing yourself? Is that why you went with that title?

Speaker 1 well it never really uh kind of like

Speaker 1 made that much sense when my when my father said it because he always would be critical you know I would be working out and he says why are you working out why are you lifting all these weights just so you can look in the mirror and kind of fall in love with yourself or something like this you can get strong by just being useful I said, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 He says, you could chop wood for the neighbor. This is this woman, she's 80 years old.
She cannot chop wood herself. She cannot chovel the coal when the coal is being delivered for her oven.

Speaker 1 She cannot do it herself. You can do it.
And then they get stronger at the same time. And you're doing something that is useful.
So be useful. So it was always be useful, be useful, be useful.

Speaker 1 And so eventually what happened was that it was the thing that motivated me the most. I heard this voice.
at 5.30 in the morning and I had to get up because I felt like I'm lying around in the bed.

Speaker 1 I mean, America, for instance, was not built by people lying in bed and sleeping in or something like that. No, this was made by people that worked hard and they were useful.

Speaker 1 And so, I have to be useful. I have to get out of bed.
I have to go and work out. I have to go to school.
I have to study. I have to get smart.
I have to get better in whatever it is.

Speaker 1 So, this is so it really was helpful for me eventually

Speaker 1 because I heard this be useful all the time. And so, I said to myself, when I wrote this motivational book, I said to myself, I'm going to call it be useful.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 What are the seven tools in the book? I'm retired

Speaker 2 and I'm kind of.

Speaker 1 Jason, that's the point of reading the book.

Speaker 2 I'm going to read the book, but I'm going to get to get Cliff Notes first, all right? I'm going to figure out the

Speaker 1 I think that the book basically was written

Speaker 1 because there's just so many people

Speaker 1 that like to be successful but are not. I mean, when you think about that 78% of the people in America hate their jobs.
Yeah. I mean, that's terrible.
That's really sad, you know.

Speaker 1 And then the reason why they hate their jobs is because they never really followed the first rule of the book, which is kind of have a clear vision. Where do you want to go in your life?

Speaker 1 What do you want to do? What are you really passionate about? I mean, you guys found out early on that you're passionate about football. So you went all out and that was your vision.

Speaker 1 And now your new vision is to go and make this explode, you know, the podcast, and then they get into movies and to do broadcasting for networks or something whatever it is in whatever direction you go yeah but you have new visions and that is the most important thing because otherwise you would not know where to go if you don't have a clear vision of where you want to go yeah and so I always compare it to an airplane you can have the best airplane in the world but if the pilot does not know where to go Eventually it's going to crash.

Speaker 1 He's not going to land anywhere, right? And that's what happens a lot of times to people in their lives.

Speaker 1 They crash and they're unhappy and they don't accomplish their goals and they don't know what their goals are and all of this.

Speaker 1 So what I'm talking about here at great length is how do you create this vision and how do you have a vision and how you have to turn off your iPhone and

Speaker 1 your phones and your computer and iPads and everything. All the machines turn them off.
Turn them off and just start

Speaker 1 thinking about what is it that you really want to accomplish in your life. What do you want to go? What makes you happy?

Speaker 1 And so a lot of people don't know, because I know because we have the Schwarzenegger Institute at USC, and I ask students all the time, I said, what do you want to be? And

Speaker 1 if things go well here, I said, no, there's too many R's.

Speaker 1 I say, what do you want to be? And they cannot come up with a clear answer. So a lot of people don't have a vision.
So that's why I say the most important thing is to have a clear vision.

Speaker 1 The other thing, the other rule that I talk about is work your ass off.

Speaker 1 There's too many people that think that you can do it an easy way or there is a short cut, or there is a magic pill of some sort. No, you got to work your ass off.
No matter what you do,

Speaker 1 if you're in the media business, in the movie business, in the acting business, if you're an athlete, you have to work your ass off. So I talk about that at great length, how important it was for me.

Speaker 1 to learn this very early on in life when I was in Austria.

Speaker 1 And then when I came over here to America, I was working out five hours a day with weights weights to win my world championships in bodybuilding. But at the same time, I went to college.

Speaker 1 At the same time, I worked as a bricklayer hours and hours every day. And at night, I went to acting class.
So I did all of that. I've literally used the entire 24 hours and only slept six hours.

Speaker 1 And the rest of it, I worked my ass off. So I talk about that.
There's no shortcut that you have to work your ass off. Here's another one.
Don't listen to the naysayers.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 as we talked about earlier, it is the worst thing you can do because everyone always comes. I remember when I was like 15 years old and I said I want to be a world champion in bodybuilding.

Speaker 1 I want to be like Reg Park or Steve Reeves, those guys on the screen that were doing Hercules movies. I said, I want to look like them.
I want to win the titles like they did.

Speaker 1 And they said, yeah, sure, I know, sure.

Speaker 1 I mean, maybe you should go and visit the shrink or something like that. So

Speaker 1 it was always negative. And I just didn't pay much attention to that.
I just listened to my own kind of mind and to my own and looked at my own vision.

Speaker 1 And I had a very clear vision of being on that stage in London where Reg Park and Steve Reeves won the Mr. Universe contest.
I saw myself on that stage and that's what I was shooting for.

Speaker 1 So every rep I did, I was getting one step closer to that vision. And I was like, I didn't have the discipline because a lot of people think that you have to discipline.

Speaker 1 No, if you have a clear vision, you don't need the discipline. You just have to go for that vision.
And every rep you do, you enjoy it because you know you're getting one step closer.

Speaker 1 So I was always smiling in the gym, having a great time because I knew why I was doing this reps,

Speaker 1 why I was lifting these weights and doing all this bench press and the chin-ups and the sit-ups and all of those kind of things because I knew what my vision was. The same was in the movie business.

Speaker 1 I knew that when I was finished with bodybuilding, I'm going to get into the movie business.

Speaker 1 I had a very clear vision to be another Reg Park or another Clean Eastwood or Charles Bronson or any of those guys. And

Speaker 1 there was no way that anyone could talk me out of it.

Speaker 1 I mean, even though they said, you know, you have an accent, no one ever became a leading man with an accent,

Speaker 1 you have a difficult name to pronounce, and you are too big for the movies. I mean, you know,

Speaker 1 Woody Allen is the new star in the 70s.

Speaker 1 Not not a big guy like you.

Speaker 1 He was always no, no, no. So again, I didn't listen to it.
And

Speaker 1 the reason that I became successful is because I didn't listen to those guys.

Speaker 1 So those are the kind of rules that I go through in this book to really lay it out for people and to show them that, you know, pick big goals, not small goals.

Speaker 1 I said, because small goals is kind of like when you're afraid of failing. I say, then you pick small goals.
I say, if you get rid of that fear of failure, that's when you're free. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's when you can go out and say, I'm going to pick this goal right up here, and I'm going to go and shoot for the stars. That's what I always did.
I love it. I love it.
Fuck the naysayers.

Speaker 1 Exactly. And be useful.
Be useful. Be useful.
Exactly. Make sure you go out and grab this book, man.
I'm already about to, gosh, I haven't read it in forever, but I'm about to read this.

Speaker 1 You talked about working out five hours a day, which is a lot longer than I've ever worked out. You've also got a daily newsletter and podcast called Arnold's Pump Club.
Yes.

Speaker 1 That's pretty pretty dope.

Speaker 1 The positive corner of the internet.

Speaker 1 Tell us a little bit about the Pump Club. Well, you know, the Pump Cup is

Speaker 1 kind of like a village. It's a community.
Yeah. It's where people kind of like help each other.
It started out originally. It's Muscle Beach.
Yeah, that's right. Online.

Speaker 1 Where it's like kind of the gym. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like it's like the pump cup is kind of the gym where I go, for instance to gorge gym and i work out and you have like a bunch of guys around and they're everyone is helping you they count out the reps for you then you're helping them you correct the exercise they come over to you and they say hey you can go further down in your squat and this so everyone works together and everyone pumps each other up and this is what this uh newsletter is all about and the pump club is all about it's like first we started out where i gave pointers to the people, where I gave them compliments and where I said you're doing really well.

Speaker 1 But now everyone is chiming in. The whole village, everyone that is a member, is supporting other people that are struggling.

Speaker 1 And so, it's really been fantastic the kind of letters that you get when people say, Oh my god, I was struggling my whole life with this weight, but now I have a great plan.

Speaker 1 You've given me a great plan, and I have all the support. All of the members,

Speaker 1 we have like you know, a million people reading this

Speaker 1 newsletter, and so we have all of them supporting them and pumping them up. So, it has been really the positive corner of the internet because everything is so negative.

Speaker 1 People attack each other all the time. It's terrible, you know.
Jason attacks me all the fucking time. Yeah, but I mean

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Speaker 2 We grew up watching Predator, Running Man, Commando, Terminator, 1 and 2, Conan, all of these movies. Do you realize that you were, you partly helped raise our entire generation?

Speaker 1 Like, literally. Yeah,

Speaker 2 don't get me wrong, my father is the man that we both looked up to the most.

Speaker 1 You're your biggest fan out of Buddha. By far.

Speaker 2 We watched Predator together on the couch. He would eat buffalo chicken wings with blue cheese slabbing off of them, not looking like the Dutch.
But what is...

Speaker 2 I guess

Speaker 2 what movie do people bring up the most from your career?

Speaker 2 Which one did you like the most? I guess.

Speaker 1 Well, let me tell you that it changes all the time. It's really weird because there are times, like for instance, where people...

Speaker 1 kind of go crazy over Conan the Barbarian. Oh, yeah.
And everyone wanted to see Conan the Barbarian and they saw it over and over again and all this stuff. And then, you know, people,

Speaker 1 things changed, and then all of a sudden they said, Terminator, oh, I love Terminator. Say the line, I'll be back.
And I would say, I'll be back. No, no, no, the way you say it in the movies.

Speaker 1 So I said, I'll be back.

Speaker 1 And then they said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly.

Speaker 1 They got really excited over that. And so then True Lies, then a lot of people thought True Lies was the greatest thing because of Jamie Lee Curtis and our dynamics together.
And then it was twins.

Speaker 1 And so it has changed over the years. And then it comes back again like for instance recently

Speaker 1 more people have been asking me and talking to me about Predator which is really interesting you know so so that because Predator we have done I think was nineteen well I shot it in nineteen eighty six it came out in nineteen eighty seven and

Speaker 1 it was you know it was really a fantastic you know

Speaker 1 team of guys that were together, Jesse Wintura and

Speaker 1 Calwell, exactly. It was really fantastic.
And so we had a a great time doing it. But, you know, now all of a sudden there's a resurrection of this movie.
And I don't know why that is.

Speaker 1 And so a lot of people have been asking me about Predator.

Speaker 1 But I have, like I said, I've done a lot of movies that people enjoy and that now they come back on Netflix and on all those different streaming services, which is really great.

Speaker 1 So it has a life of its own. And I think that now I have kind of like the

Speaker 1 older people, the baby boomers that are fans of mine, and also the young people again, because these movies are coming back in the streaming service. So it's really great to enjoy both.

Speaker 1 That's so cool, man. Awesome.

Speaker 2 Was there any movie that you passed on that you wished you would have taken?

Speaker 1 There was a movie called The Rock.

Speaker 1 And with John Connery. Yeah, yeah.
So they came to me with a script. It was only 80 pages instead of 120, which normally scripts are, with a lot of handwritten scribbling in it.

Speaker 1 And they tried to kind of explain to me, Oh, this is what we're going to write here.

Speaker 1 So, I said, Look, guys, why don't you just come back when it's finished? Yeah, I said, This is half-baked, and I'm not going to make a commitment.

Speaker 1 I said, and I have three movies lined up already to do in the next year and a half, so I said, I'm going to be busy anyway. And so, they then left, which was Jerry Brukheimer and Don Simpson.

Speaker 1 They left, and then they,

Speaker 1 Nicholas Cage got the job,

Speaker 1 got the part, and they went to him and he was

Speaker 1 he took it and the way the script was and then they did fine-tune the script and did a great job with it and the movie was fantastic yeah even though I was not in it but Nicholas Cage did a fantastic job Sean Connery was great the directing was great the writing everything was really a straight tan so I mean I was I really enjoyed the movie but there was one movie for instance that I thought I wished I would have taken but I mean I just couldn't take it because it was not yet written because they always say what's not on the page is not on the stage.

Speaker 1 So you got to be very careful always and that's also an advice for you guys in the future when you get offered movies.

Speaker 1 Just make sure that it is written well because when they say to you, it says, well, we're going to have great special effects and you will not believe the kind of things we're doing.

Speaker 1 And we have this great director and we have this and that. We're going to straighten all this out.
Let's see it first.

Speaker 1 Let me see the pages first. Let's see the rewrite first and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 Because you want to be in something good, not right off the top, something that is not good.

Speaker 1 Because later on, you never know how it's going to end up. But so this is just an advice for me to you that you always kind of look for well-written scripts.
That is the key thing. Got it.

Speaker 1 And great directors. I mean, when I think about my career wouldn't be what it was and what it has been

Speaker 1 if it wouldn't have been for John Millias, who directed comments. For coaches, man.
Yeah, and

Speaker 1 like Jim Cameron. Yeah.
I mean, think about Jim Cameron. I mean, what a genius director.

Speaker 1 I did Terminator, Terminator 2 with him, Drew Lies with him, and then he went on to do Titanic and then Avatar and all of this stuff. I mean, he literally made some of my favorite movies of all times.

Speaker 1 Or Ivan Reitman, who directed Twins, or John McTernan, who did Predator. So these are really extraordinary directors.
They made me shine because they were great directors. Always shining light, man.

Speaker 1 yeah you're always shining light on everybody is is is there a is there a modern-day Arnold like who are you a fan of right now in that world

Speaker 1 in the action Sean yeah I think I'm a fan of the rock I think he's fantastic he's really good I think there's a

Speaker 1 the reacher yeah right I mean that that guy is a really fantastic speaking of the rock in an alien invasion Are you the better representative or The Rock the better representative?

Speaker 2 Who's the better one? Who do you think?

Speaker 1 It really depends. I mean,

Speaker 1 I think that we're going to be in the middle. Both of you in your prime.
Both of you in my prime.

Speaker 1 I don't think that you should limit it to just one or the other. Both.
Why not work together? Look at this.

Speaker 2 Spoken like a governor right here.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Together, we have the ultimate talent, right? That's right. We have it all.
That's right. We have the wisdom.
Great answer. And then we have the strength, the speed, the talent.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we can push it in our way out of anything.

Speaker 2 The aliens don't say that.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 2 We've known that you had a competition with Sylvester Salone back in your guys.

Speaker 2 You and Sly and all of the action stars. What was crazy about that generation was those were not just the action stars.
Those were the biggest stars in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 Like they outshined all of the other actors in Hollywood. It was the heyday of action movies, and you and Sylvester really went toe-to-toe.

Speaker 2 Obviously, being a Philadelphia and Rocky's a big movie to Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 But back in the day, you know, what was the competition like?

Speaker 2 Like, were there certain movies where you guys felt like you were going back and forth?

Speaker 1 Well, first of all, let me just say that what made us be that big

Speaker 1 was that we created an era.

Speaker 1 I mean, just think about it, that before us,

Speaker 1 there were no action movies where the guys were really believable, physically speaking, that they could do this action.

Speaker 1 So, we were the first ones that came on the scene

Speaker 1 with Vidracki.

Speaker 1 He looked very athletic and he looked very good, and his skills in boxing was fantastic. So, that, and of course, his acting was mind-blowing in that movie, and that's why it won all these awards.

Speaker 1 And then, when I came out, you know, with Conan, people just couldn't believe that, you know, that,

Speaker 1 oh man, you know, because

Speaker 1 they always said,

Speaker 1 I might be my first kid, Conan. We could never have done Conan without Schwarzenegger because there was no one around that had a body like that and it could act.

Speaker 1 So I was kind of the perfect guy for that time. And there were no stunt guys around that had a body like that.
So I had to kind of do most of my stunts myself.

Speaker 1 There was a few things that Terry Leonard did, who was the stunt coordinator, but he always did everything from far away. And we had, you know, this camouflage paint that had on it.

Speaker 1 And so they painted him up like that, so he looked somewhat like like me, right? But it was fine of a way so that we saw that he was baby kids.

Speaker 1 Exactly,

Speaker 1 to do the stunts. But I mean, it was like really frustrating because I had to do a lot of the stuff.

Speaker 1 I was trampled on by horses, I fell off, and it was sword fights, I got cut with the swords, and all this kind of stuff. So, but I mean, we created an era of

Speaker 1 action movies where the guys like you know, uh,

Speaker 1 Jean-Garde von Damme and all of those guys came in, they were ripped, they were muscular, and so then it became a competition. You know, it's like, but not just a competition of who has the best body,

Speaker 1 but it was kind of like who has the lowest body fat? Who sells the most tickets at the box office?

Speaker 1 Who uses the biggest knives in a movie?

Speaker 1 Who kills more people in a movie? Who kills the more people in the most creative way in a movie? And so the competition was so insane in every direction. Who uses the biggest gun?

Speaker 1 So the sly used in Rambo

Speaker 1 a huge machine gun that he barely could hold up, right?

Speaker 1 And so I said to the guy, when I did commander, I said, guys, we gotta go and use a machine gun that is mounted on a helicopter or on a tank, not for a human being.

Speaker 1 And so I was holding this this gun, I couldn't hold it up. It had like a stand underneath because it was so heavy, it was so huge.
And I'm in the jungle there, boom, boom, boom, boom. You know,

Speaker 1 nailing the jungle trees and all that stuff. So it was crazy.
The competition was insane.

Speaker 1 But with all the competitiveness, the day when we look back,

Speaker 1 we laugh at it because we are very good friends and we help each other all the time. And so we laugh at it.

Speaker 1 We actually have come to the conclusion that Because of this competition, we were kind of like working extra hard because as you know,

Speaker 1 competition creates performance. If you have no competition,

Speaker 1 there's no performance.

Speaker 1 It's too fucking kind right now.

Speaker 1 You guys are way too fucking kind. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 We just grinded out and we were competing and competing. And now

Speaker 1 it's a friendly competition. It's always a competition.

Speaker 1 But I mean, now he's doing Thalsa King.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm doing my Fuba series starting in a month. And he's starting to shoot, I think, in a week or two.

Speaker 1 And so it is fun to see him successful, I'm successful, and we're doing it together kind of thing. And we laugh about the good old days.
Hell yeah, I'm sure you do.

Speaker 1 How close were because it had to be at least offered and on the table. How close were you to being a villain in Rocky? Oh,

Speaker 1 I was never offered the villain.

Speaker 1 No, no. I was never offered the villain.
First of all, I wouldn't have taken it. I think that Slide knew that.
But I mean, the villains that he had, let's not forget, I mean, they were priceless.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, if you think about, you know,

Speaker 1 Carl Wethers, right, I mean,

Speaker 1 how good he was. I mean, it was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Or Dolph Lundgren.

Speaker 2 Let's be honest, Dolph is good, but if I think of a German

Speaker 1 Dolph Lundgren, he was tall. He was six Arnold.
He was very tall.

Speaker 1 And he was fantastic. He was fantastic.
I love Dalf Langren. He would have had to change the script.

Speaker 1 That's what it really is.

Speaker 1 Then Mr. T? Yeah.
How about Mr. T? Mr.
T, Hogong.

Speaker 1 Hogong, exactly. These were great, great villains in there in the opposite style.
So I think that he did a good job picking those guys. But I mean, we did a movie together.

Speaker 1 You know, we do exactly Expandables. Yeah, and also Escape Plan.
Escape Plan. Escape Plan.
Yeah. So they changed the title from Tomb to Escape Plan.

Speaker 1 And Sly and I did that together, which was really fun to work with him in that film.

Speaker 1 So maybe we do something else in the future. Who knows?

Speaker 2 Well, we usually ask all of our nfl guests what is your welcome to the nfl moment you've had so many careers so it's hard to ask which ones we're just gonna ask y'all what is your welcome to hollywood moment what's your welcome to bodybuilding moment and what's your welcome to america moment

Speaker 1 well let me just say that

Speaker 1 i

Speaker 1 am

Speaker 1 a product

Speaker 1 of a lot of help Okay, when I say that because so many times people say, you know, I'm a self-made man and I'm the perfect example of a self-made man, but I'm not.

Speaker 1 I've been following this guy my whole career, so I know what you're saying. Exactly.

Speaker 1 So, so, so, if I would never have been able to come to America if it wouldn't have been for Joe Weider, who was the publisher of the muscle magazines, nice, and he had the weeder distribution with barbells and dumbbells and all of this stuff worldwide.

Speaker 1 And he brought me to America, he gave me the chance to bring me over here and to compete here in a Mr. Universe contest.
And then I stayed here, and

Speaker 1 he paid for my apartment in the beginning and gave me some little bit of spending money and I endorsed his products and all that kind of stuff. So that was very, very helpful.

Speaker 1 In the movie world it was the same thing. It was like people that invited me in.
I mean there was a guy by the name of Barbara Rafelson. Okay.
Barbara Rafelson

Speaker 1 directed Five Easy Pieces and Easy Rider and those movies with Jack Nicholson and he directed

Speaker 1 the movie that I was in, Stay Hungry, with Jeff Bridges and with Sally Fields. Without him, I wouldn't have had that huge break in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 And I got the best acting debut award in the Golden Globes for that role.

Speaker 1 And so that was, you know, again, it was people that were helpful and that continued helping.

Speaker 1 And Dino DeLorendis, who was one of the most famous producers, who then got me to do Conan the Barbarian and with Ed Pressman and all this.

Speaker 1 So there were a lot of people that were very helpful and that brought me in. But I mean, to me, coming to America was the key to my success because everything that I have accomplished in my life

Speaker 1 was because of coming to America.

Speaker 1 America is the land of opportunity, even though people criticize it and politicize it.

Speaker 1 And it doesn't matter if the Democrats are in charge, if the Republicans are in charge, America is the greatest country in the world, and it is is the most generous country in the world and it has given me all the opportunities in the movie business and in bodybuilding and making millions of dollars and you know and my family and everything.

Speaker 1 It's all because of America.

Speaker 2 What do you think it is that makes America so unique as a country? Like why is it that America has that?

Speaker 1 You know it's just its history and it's just its generosity. It's just a place where foreigners are

Speaker 1 welcomed. And this is the key thing: if you are willing to contribute to America, there's a lot of people that want to come to America to take advantage of America.

Speaker 1 And I'm very vividly against that, you know, because everything is a two-way street.

Speaker 1 When I come to America and I see that I'm being welcomed and received with open arms, then I want to make sure that I do everything I can to give back to America.

Speaker 1 And this was to me always the thing, you know, which means not skipping taxes or running off to another country to have some offshore cooperation or any of those things.

Speaker 1 I believe in paying your taxes and go and enjoy this great nation that gives us all these opportunities and giving something back.

Speaker 1 So that's why I always was interested in, you know, getting involved in creating after-school programs for kids all over the country.

Speaker 1 So we have one of the biggest after-school program organizations, the After School All-Stars. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 I got involved in Special Olympics. Brandon, where is that on the rundown? God damn it.
I have, you know, done the Special Olympics.

Speaker 1 I became the national coach of Special Olympics, an international coach of Special Olympics to help people that are disadvantaged sometimes, you know, mentally or physically, and so help them and traveled around the world to do that.

Speaker 1 Then, of course, being the chairman of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports on the President's Bush's leadership.

Speaker 1 So I did that for years, and that was really fantastic to travel through all 50 states in the United States to start, to kind of motivate kids to exercise and to have more physical education programs in a public school.

Speaker 1 And then, of course, running for governor. It was like I literally gave up, you know, at that point I was getting anywhere between $20 and $30 million a movie, and I was doing two movies a year.

Speaker 1 And I gave that up

Speaker 1 to run for governor and to be governor for seven years, not to take the salary. Even that, you know, they offer you $178,000, which was like petty cash, right? So I said, I'm not going to take it.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to take that. I said,

Speaker 1 give it to people in California that need it. There's a lot of people that need that money more than I do.

Speaker 1 But, I mean, those are the kind of things I gave up to give something back to America because I said to myself, America gave me everything, so now it's my time to give something back.

Speaker 1 Love that.

Speaker 2 All right, we're going to stop being fanboys over your acting career and switch over to a different kind of fanboy here.

Speaker 2 Andy Reid always tells Travis, you lose your glutes, you lose your game. As a seven-time Mr.
Olympian and the most iconic weightlifting,

Speaker 2 bodybuilding individual of all time,

Speaker 2 what is the key to building up your body in your mind? Like, I know that it's more complex, but what are the few things that our listeners could take away?

Speaker 2 And like, if they wanted to become more happy with their physique, get pumped up, what are the few keys that you give them?

Speaker 1 The most important thing, and I was very fortunate, that I started in a weightlifting club. So we were not allowed to do bodybuilding exercises

Speaker 1 until we have proven that we have done our training for weightlifting for Olympic lifting.

Speaker 1 So it was the two-arm press at that time. Now they don't do that anymore.
Then it was the two-arm clean and jerk, clean and jerk, and the two-arm snatch.

Speaker 1 So those are the three disciplines that we had to kind of practice. And then on top of that, I practiced also powerlifting.
The bench press. There was like actually four disciplines.

Speaker 1 It was the bench press, then there was the squat and the deadlift, and also the cheating curl. Cheating curl.
Cheating curl, yes. That means you're swinging.
You're swinging.

Speaker 1 So it was understood you swing, but you had to get it up there.

Speaker 1 So those were the four kind of disciplines. So we had to practice that also.

Speaker 1 And when that was done, then then you could go and do some chin-ups and do some inclined bench presses or some flies or some pullover exercises.

Speaker 1 Scurals and stuff like that for bodybuilding. So there was the deal.
So I was lucky because in weightlifting, you do the very basic exercises, the deadlift.

Speaker 1 So that's why I went all the way up to 710-pound deadlift. God damn it.
And then the bench press.

Speaker 1 So I did all the basic lifts, bent over rowing, you know,

Speaker 1 the squats, the bench press, the incline press,

Speaker 1 all of those things that the squat, that were very, very important to build the basics of the body. Compound.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 1 then when that is done, and you have deltoids and you have pectoral muscles and you have a huge chest and lats and the back, now you go and start chiseling away because now it's about the perfection.

Speaker 1 Do you have enough upper lats, lower lats, and the rear deltoids, side deltoids, front deltoids? Is there a split between the backromuscle and the front deltoid?

Speaker 1 Is there a split between the trapezius and the deltoids? You have to do the entire anatomy of the body, right? No, but I mean it's it's you you have to know all that.

Speaker 1 That is the most important thing because when because there's an exercise for each part of your body.

Speaker 1 And so when you know

Speaker 1 how do I go and create a little bit more of that rear deltoid?

Speaker 1 How do I create a little bit more of the serratus that separates the latissimus from the background muscle?

Speaker 1 How do I create a little bit more of those intercascles that separate the abdominals and the side to the obliques? And all of those kinds of things.

Speaker 1 When you know those exercises and know those machines, that's what makes you then sculpt the perfect body. Yeah.
Or as perfect as we ever can get.

Speaker 1 You know, no one ever got perfection, but I mean, as perfect as you can get. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 But so that's what it is about.

Speaker 1 It's knowing that, studying it, and then also knowing the nutritional part.

Speaker 1 Because, you know, you got to realize that the body needs protein, it needs carbohydrates, it needs fats, it needs, but what is the balance?

Speaker 1 So that is also very important that you figure out not what is the rule out there. So that's important to know what's the rule, but that's not the only thing that's important.

Speaker 1 You got to figure out also what is it that is working for for you. Right.
Because what works for you may not work for you.

Speaker 1 You see what I'm saying? So

Speaker 1 people try to copy each other. That's all good.
Of course, I copied my curl because someone else did the curl in order.

Speaker 1 But then I had to figure out what kind of a curl do I need to do to get that peak on the bicep. What did I need to do for my calves, for my outer calves? So everyone is different

Speaker 1 and everyone has to therefore train a little differently.

Speaker 1 Jason does a lot of, what is it? You're vegan. Jason's real vegan.
I always was out on vegan. I never thought I did it one week, couldn't do it.
I needed way more protein though than beans.

Speaker 1 Have you ever gone vegan? I have cut down my meat intake by around 70%.

Speaker 1 And the one that talked me into it was Jim Cameron. He's vegan, 100% vegan.
And he has tremendous energy.

Speaker 1 And so I think it works because when you get older, then you, doctors always would tell you, especially if you have a heart condition.

Speaker 1 So they will always tell you: I said, Look, cut down on your meat intake, cut down on your meat intake. And so I did.

Speaker 1 I started, you know, just eating mostly vegetables at night, having a soup or some cucumber salad or something like that, rather than having chicken or having meat or steak. But I still love my steak.

Speaker 1 It's pretty good. I still go out there and every so often make my barbecued steak.
I still want to go to Austria, eat my Wiener Schnitzel.

Speaker 1 Oh man, the breaded Wienerschnitzel.

Speaker 1 Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 Breaded Wieners Wiel. Breaded Wiel.
Yeah, it's fantastic.

Speaker 1 I don't have the chicken schnitzel out there in Germany. I went to Frankfurt this year.
That's also good. Chicken schnitzel is also very, very good.

Speaker 2 I'm in the process right now. I'm retired.
I've played my whole career at 295. I'm trying to get down to 250, 260.

Speaker 2 My goal is two pounds every week, lose it, because I want to lose it, but maintain my muscle mass.

Speaker 2 And I'm trying to monitor

Speaker 2 my protein, my carbs, my fats, and make sure that I'm hitting at least one pound per body weight. Is that?

Speaker 1 Are these, well, I'm asking, is this like the model? Because I'm trying to.

Speaker 1 The most important thing is

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 you

Speaker 1 slowly kind of decrease the body fat

Speaker 1 and increase the body muscles. Right.
So you just switch. It doesn't just have to do with the weight.

Speaker 1 Yes, of course you want to reduce weight because it's much healthier and you're much more agile and much faster. You can do do more and all that kind of stuff.
You're much more energetic.

Speaker 1 But you want to slowly decrease the fat and increase a muscle mass. That is the key thing.

Speaker 1 And so, with the exercising and with the machines and the weights and all of that stuff, you should be able to do that very easily.

Speaker 1 And I know that you have lifted some serious weights. Oh, yeah.
And your best squat is what?

Speaker 2 It's like 700.

Speaker 1 I haven't done it in a long time. Yeah, but I mean, that's some serious weight.

Speaker 1 So you're talking about... My body would break.
Don't even look at me.

Speaker 1 No, no, but I mean, you guys, both of you lift a lot of weights. And so

Speaker 1 it should be easy to go and do. You don't have to lift heavy.
Yeah. That's a key thing, because remember, at a certain age,

Speaker 1 you start getting into this wear and tear of the joints. It's unnecessary because you're not competing.
So it's unnecessary to go and try to outdo the lifting and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 I'd rather see you doing, you know, 12, 15 reps an exercise

Speaker 1 and doing it as strict as possible and to do many, many reps and many sets and to do it the right way and to gain the muscle size rather than to just torture yourself and to have injuries and all that.

Speaker 1 That time should be over for you. We're smarter than harder, man.
Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Let's do note of questions.

Speaker 1 What happened here?

Speaker 1 He was the parking attendant out there

Speaker 1 when I came in. This is like wild.
I mean, that's making the rules around here, Brandon.

Speaker 1 I have never seen anything like it in my life.

Speaker 1 We're in America, land of the opportunity.

Speaker 1 All right, now let's get into some no-dumb questions and a very special edition of No Dumb Questions because we

Speaker 1 arguably have the smartest man answering these no-dumb questions with a bunch of dummies. Me and Jason, obviously.
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Speaker 1 In a recent interview, you said you learned about the rules of American football through your kids since they watched and played growing up.

Speaker 1 What was your first impression of American football outside of Joe Names? Joe Names. Well,

Speaker 1 I mean, I tried to watch it because, of course, my friends... even though they were bodybuilders in the gym in Gold's Gym, and

Speaker 1 Sundays, I would be hanging out with them and they said, Let's watch football. So, I was watching football, but of course, I could not understand it.
There's a little bit of a bad thing.

Speaker 1 Imagine that in soccer, you never stop.

Speaker 1 And in football, they stopped all the time. And they said, Why are we stopping here? Best thing ever.
So I said, What the hell is going on here? And why are we stopping? So then,

Speaker 1 then they started explaining to me some of the rules and orders, then it started making sense. But when it really made sense was when I had kids, and my sons were heavily into football.

Speaker 1 They were playing football also in elementary school and then also in high school and all of that stuff and loved it. And so we of course had to watch football.

Speaker 1 That was the things that we did always together. That's all.
And so I said, wait a minute, why is this guy saying that this was not allowed?

Speaker 1 I mean, all he did was just held on to his gear and didn't let him run. No, he can't do that.
I said, yeah, but then the other guy just take his helmet off. The other guys, this is his

Speaker 1 guys and hitting him in the head with the, you know, and that they're crashing together with the helmets and the guys passing out. I said, that's okay.

Speaker 1 So I said, that doesn't make any. So anyway, with things like that.
And so they explained it to me step by step. And the kids, I tell you one thing.

Speaker 1 I learned very quickly how much that your children love to educate the parents. Because we always say, don't do this, do this, do that.
No, no, you're wrong with the math. This is the way it is.

Speaker 1 The spelling is wrong. You write this again.

Speaker 1 We always try to tell them what to do.

Speaker 1 So now, all of a sudden, you go, but it was not kind of like meant to be like that. But I said, I said, Patrick, what happened here now? Why? So then he explains it, and I said, oh, that's why.

Speaker 1 So I realized how much he loved it. And then he had his bodies over there.
Then he looked over his bodies.

Speaker 1 You know, kind of like,

Speaker 1 this guy, I have an idiot father. I mean,

Speaker 1 you have to to understand, guys, he's from Austria.

Speaker 1 It was all this eyeing around and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 But, I mean, I learned the game, I learned the rules. And then later on, around 10 years ago, I

Speaker 1 fell in love with Heather, with my girlfriend, who is a physical therapist, who treats a lot of the football players and boxers and UFC fighters and basketball players.

Speaker 1 And she is really a fanatic about sports and especially about football. So now I'm sitting with her and she's explaining if I have any questions.
Here we go, Heather.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it never stops.

Speaker 1 So this is really what has happened in the last few years. You had to have been asked to play football at some point though.
No, I've never been asked because

Speaker 1 I tell you why, because people

Speaker 1 have known my drive and my clear vision. in

Speaker 1 bodybuilding.

Speaker 1 Because I've been invited by track and field guys, you know, Bruce Channer and all those guys that were training for the Olympics in the 70s, you know, to come in the field with them and to throw the javelin and the shotbutton and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 But I mean, I've never really been invited to play football or anything like that. But I, like I said, I always loved it.

Speaker 1 I was always mesmerized of how it can be so popular and how people can get into it and drink and eat and this and that. It becomes kind of like a fest.
It was like,

Speaker 1 it's really fantastic.

Speaker 1 Culture.

Speaker 1 I learned that whole thing watching my kids, you know, kind of digging it and just having their friends over, and how this was kind of the early stage and how that continued on until the days.

Speaker 1 That's exactly how it started for us, just sitting there watching with our dad and enjoying those games.

Speaker 1 If you ever want to come see some good football, baby, you're more than welcome to come on over to Kansas City. Do you have a team that you roll the red carpet out? When you live here,

Speaker 1 then you root for teams from here, from

Speaker 1 the 49ers or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 But I mean, whatever. But I mean, I always say that if you watch the best,

Speaker 1 no matter what it is, what sport it is, if you watch the best, I mean, it is absolute heaven and it's so inspirational. I'm with you on that.

Speaker 1 The best in football, if you watch the best in football, if it's college football, it's professional football, if it is whatever it is, or gymnastics, or this or that.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's just always wonderful to watch. I love watching it.
I'm with you. I love that.
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Speaker 2 How close are we to the Terminator becoming a real thing?

Speaker 1 With AI and...

Speaker 1 I think we are very close. Right? We are very close.

Speaker 1 People ask me all the time, how do you feel about AI? I said, I'm not as concerned about artificial intelligence as I'm about basic stupidity.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 gosh, that was the best answer I can ever heard.

Speaker 1 Real life stupidity worries me more than if I'm AI. That's fair for me.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's very fair. Have you ever given your son-in-law Chris Pratt acting advice? No.

Speaker 1 I think that he's doing fantastic in his career.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's really great. And we talk a lot about

Speaker 1 show business because this is a whole new era now. And so we talk about that versus when I kind of got into the game.
And

Speaker 1 he's a fun guy to talk to. I'm really happy that my daughter, you know,

Speaker 1 has found him

Speaker 1 and or that he has found her, whatever you, or they found each other. They found each other.

Speaker 1 Whatever, but I mean, it's because they really fit really well together. Nice.
And they just look wonderful together. They're so in love with each other.
And the grandchildren, I love the grandkids.

Speaker 1 I mean, she brings them over on the weekends on Saturday. Yeah.
And then, you know, I have, of course, the animals.

Speaker 1 So it's easy for me to be a granddaddy, right? So

Speaker 1 I say, kids, you want to help me feed the animals? I say, let's go and feed Schnelly, which is my pig. And the pig is now, I got it at the pig when it was like 16 pounds.

Speaker 1 Now it's like 100 pounds or whatever. I mean, I don't know what happened, but I think someone finally.

Speaker 1 It's a powerful thing.

Speaker 1 So now they're feeding Schnelly and they teach him how to put it in his mouth and all of those kind of things. Then they go over to the stall with me and they bring out the

Speaker 1 miniature donkey, Lulu and whiskey, the miniature pony. And then they feed them and they bring Apris over and feed them in all this.
So how did you get into owning a miniature pony? Well, it's

Speaker 1 Heather gave it to me. The miniature pony.
Oh, yeah Heather nice Heather?

Speaker 1 No, not the pony is actually Catherine's, but the donkey Heather gave me.

Speaker 1 And so what happened was Catherine had this pony.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, when she started getting interested in boys,

Speaker 1 all of a sudden the animals

Speaker 1 were out.

Speaker 1 She didn't pay any attention. So I saw this pony down at the stall below where I live.
in some public stall and with other horses and miniature horses and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 And so I said, Well, I'm gonna bring it up to my house because it's stupid to have this miniature pony down there and doesn't get any attention.

Speaker 1 I wanna just have it walk around in the house, come into the house, and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 So, anyway, so that so that's what I did. I had this pony, and that's just it, it walked around the house, and I fed it, and it was always fun.
And then Heather said,

Speaker 1 She needs a companion. So, then Heather got me the

Speaker 1 miniature donkey. And so now I have Lulu and whiskey.
So the whiskey is the pony and the donkey is Lulu.

Speaker 1 But the question really is, so when you should see that,

Speaker 1 when they all come in in the morning, I mean it's like the donkey is in there, the pony is in there, the pig is in there begging for food, the three dogs are in there, everyone is sitting there on the floor and is waiting for the cookies because we are making this oatmeal cookies that have no sugar in it.

Speaker 1 It's just like honey and some

Speaker 1 oatmeal is in there and a few things like that. So

Speaker 1 very, very healthy.

Speaker 1 And so we feed the animals and they just sit there and they do anything you ask them to do if they get a cookie.

Speaker 1 With food, as you know, with animals, with food, you can really can

Speaker 1 make them do anything.

Speaker 1 So anyway, when Catherine comes over with her kids and they play with the animals like for hours, they just love it they just love it and can they pick up cherry which is the little dog that i have and so then then lila picks up cherry and then eloise picks up cherry and then i want to hold cherry oh can i sit on the donkey yeah

Speaker 1 yeah of course you can sit on lulu then i put on lulu and this is how it goes they're having a great time that sounds like

Speaker 1 you talk about it man you can tell it's fun in your uh professional political opinion um

Speaker 1 obviously governor of california we've been talking about it. Jason,

Speaker 1 how far away? Do you think he should be asking this? Governor of Pennsylvania?

Speaker 1 I mean, he's no, he's got the, he's got it all, right? Yeah, but

Speaker 1 it has to be in his heart. That's right.
So, so, so, you know, he maybe has the right combination. He has the

Speaker 1 most important thing, number one,

Speaker 1 is name recognition.

Speaker 1 So, of course, he has that.

Speaker 1 But the second most important thing is you have to be passionate. You have to really say, I see myself as the governor, like I did.

Speaker 1 I saw myself as the governor, and I was absolutely convinced I can do a better job than the politicians did. Because I said to myself,

Speaker 1 because they always say, they say, oh my God, Schwarzenegger doesn't know anything about politics. I say, well, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 I say, we have warehouses of politicians, of experts up there in Sacramento. And look at this.
We have a $34 billion deficit.

Speaker 1 I say, you should be ashamed of yourself. That's what you know.
I say, I know better. I say, I would not spend money I don't have.
That's as simple as that.

Speaker 1 So there were certain things like that that I've just felt very strongly and that people elected me because of that. And so it depends, you know, if you are into

Speaker 1 the public service thing or not. If you are, of course, you can win because you're an imposing figure, you speak really well, you're very clear.

Speaker 1 And all you have to do now is then just convince the people I'm the man.

Speaker 1 Which they already know you're the man. I can make

Speaker 1 it. Don't get me put up right now to go do this.

Speaker 1 I got a clear vision of my career right now.

Speaker 1 Forget the mayor. Yeah, fuck it.
Forget the mayor. Forget the mayor.
Forget the mayor.

Speaker 1 He said to me the same thing you should have done for mayor first. Folks,

Speaker 1 he's a governor. You go for governor and then president.

Speaker 1 You're born here. You're born here.

Speaker 2 Arnold Schwarzenegger is president. I mean, is that not...

Speaker 1 I'm going to the White House. I'll steal that thing and change it.

Speaker 1 We would have the Super Bowl on the south lawn of the White House.

Speaker 1 That I can guarantee you right now.

Speaker 1 Kennedy used to, when he was president, he used to have sports events right in front of this, in the south lawn of the White House.

Speaker 1 You know, the fun baseball games and tennis games and football games. They all were playing there, doing some sport or the other.

Speaker 1 That's why when I did, when I became the chairman of the President's Council on Fitness, I then went and talked President Bush into having the Great American Workout on the south lawn of the White House.

Speaker 1 And we had it every beginning of the May. Where is this on the rundown?

Speaker 1 God, that is so freaking cool. So I tell you this stuff.

Speaker 1 This is all secret stuff. This is cool, man.
As authority to all the cool shit in the world, what are your thoughts on the new Cybertruck? Is it cool? Is it weird? Is it too futuristic?

Speaker 1 Do you know what you know which one I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Do you have one? I don't have one, no. But I can tell you one thing.
When it comes to trucks, I like the old kind of stuff better. You know, I think it looks cooler.
That's fair.

Speaker 1 I still love my hammers. Woo-hoo!

Speaker 1 I mean, it's like, I tell you, I have a hammer. I had a hammer that was electric, which was really fantastic.
It had 550 horsepower.

Speaker 1 And then we auctioned it off for the after-school programs.

Speaker 1 And we fetched over $500,000.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. It was really great.

Speaker 1 And then I have a biodiesel hummer.

Speaker 1 So I have various different hummers, and they're really fun to drive. And this is much more my kind of personality.

Speaker 1 Jason has a cyber truck.

Speaker 2 I got an old school truck, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You have the cyber truck. I just got it.
Is it electric?

Speaker 2 It is electric.

Speaker 2 It sounds like it's similar to the Hummer.

Speaker 1 The amazing thing about the electric is it's just so much more power

Speaker 1 immediately because there's no delay. Yes.
There's no delay, exactly. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 But I also have an old Chevy Silverada from 1987, old square body Chevy.

Speaker 1 I love those two. Yeah, I love those too.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 That's when they knew how to make cars, huh? No doubt. Exactly, yeah.
Do you know that you guys are coming from Cleveland, obviously?

Speaker 1 But I mean, so in Cleveland, I never knew this is where the original city was where they started building cars.

Speaker 1 I was back in Cleveland. I went to that car

Speaker 1 museum. Yeah.
The auto museum that you have there. Absolutely.
It was fantastic to go through there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Our dad worked in the steel mills. I think our family

Speaker 2 history was the only reason that city started was to build cars in Detroit, right?

Speaker 1 And it was amazing. And then eventually went to Detroit somehow.
But I mean, what a history. I never knew there was such a history there.
Yeah, absolutely. It was fantastic.
It's a beautiful colour.

Speaker 1 It's a

Speaker 1 beautiful city. Absolutely.
Another reason why Cleveland's amazing. All right, last question.

Speaker 1 If you were to reboot one of your movies and cast each of us in a role, what movie and who do you think we'd play? Oh, I would definitely do Conan the Barbarian. Imagine how real this is.

Speaker 1 I mean, you don't have to change anything.

Speaker 1 All you have to do is go on a...

Speaker 1 Go on a...

Speaker 1 No, you can put a wig on it.

Speaker 1 Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Speaker 1 there was a partial wig. Oh, okay.
Yeah, partial week.

Speaker 1 But I mean, the thing is that they had also had short hairs, short hair in those days. You don't have to do the long hair thing.
But I mean, that would be fantastic.

Speaker 1 All you have to do is just learn how to horseback ride. And maybe you guys know how to horseback.
I've been bucked off every horse I've ever been on.

Speaker 1 That is the key thing, is to really get good in horseback riding. Okay.
Because, you know, when you do the sword fighting on a horse,

Speaker 1 you really cannot pay much attention to the horse. The horse goes around the circle and does its thing, but you have to pay attention to the sword, not to get whacked.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, so that's that's the thing.

Speaker 1 So, I think if you take sword fighting lessons, I took three years sword fighting lessons and three years horseback riding lessons and with all kinds of weaponry and the martial arts and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 And it really was helpful to be that prepared when I did a movie. But that's the key thing.
So, if you do that, I mean, imagine you guys

Speaker 1 with the armor

Speaker 1 with the big hammer and then with the big battles and all that stuff. And riding there into the village, just wiping out everyone.
Crush your enemies.

Speaker 1 See them even before you and hear the lamentation of their women.

Speaker 2 Maybe I can start off on Lulu.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 That brings our show to a close.

Speaker 2 Let's wrap it up. Thank you so much to Arnold Schwarzenegger for stopping by.
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Speaker 1 Chase Ned Dravis, a fantastic. I mean,

Speaker 1 Arnie, we can't thank you enough.

Speaker 1 Interviewers is all I can say. Even though I know they're going to cut this part out now.
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Speaker 1 This guy's a really the real deal. I love talking to them.
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Speaker 1 We'll end it there, baby. See you later.
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Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 So fucking cool.

Speaker 1 He was in a shot? He was. What kind of an angle is that?

Speaker 1 Obitette camera. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why did you do that? I mean, it's like it's a... It's lie sent you?

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