1795 - "Dead Feathered"

Physical activity is now a medical condition.

Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Sunday, August 31st, 2025.

This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination episode 1795.

This is no agenda.

From Northern Silicon Valley, where I keep wondering why X or Twitter keeps sending me ads to use butter on ice cream.

I'm Jonathan Dvorak.

It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill in the morning.

Wait a minute.

So you're getting ads to use butter on ads?

What is the ad for if it's an ad?

I don't click on it.

I refuse to click on it.

It's stupid.

It's an obvious ad.

It keeps cropping up.

Oh, here's why you should put butter on ice cream.

I'm sure other people have seen this.

I'm surprised.

I don't see any ads ads on X.

Are you paying not to get ads?

No, no, I got the blue check mark just because of my signature.

Here's the blue check mark.

I get ads.

So here's what I get on X.

All right.

So, you know, whenever I fire off the bat signal, I send out the tweet and I boost the toot and I slash the X and I whine on the blue cry.

And then, you know, I go to X because Darren always has a cute way of retweeting or reposting, whatever we call it.

And so I'll repost his repost.

And right there's from Crumbulent Corpse,

a one-liner, you make this show my favorite hateless, and you insufferable douche.

John's great, though.

Yeah.

You insufferable douche.

That's a great line.

I've gotten some amazing messages.

This is another one from Jeff.

Adam, I've been listening to your show every week for at least 10 years and been donating $15 a month for at least 10 years with autopay.

You obviously have my full attention.

This is a true value-for-value person.

I finally need to give you this feedback.

Please stop using terms like bull crap.

Just swear.

I'm the one who does that.

That's me.

Just swear and talk like normal people talk.

I swear.

We try to avoid that.

It is unlikely that young kids are listening to your show.

It completely is not true.

We know for a fact that young kids listen to the show.

A lot of disease.

It completely dulls the tone when you sanitize language in that way.

And it sounds forced and awkward.

I'm telling you, this guy is friggin' nuts.

Every other podcast out there uses colorful language, which is part of the fun of podcasts.

John sneaks in an F-bomb once in a while, and honestly, it's refreshing.

I don't even know why I show up to the show.

It seems like you're the guy.

You're just the guy.

Everybody loves you.

You're the guy.

You get to a certain age.

Yeah, that's what it is.

You're getting there.

Yeah, I'll be 61 on

Wednesday.

Wednesday.

Thank you.

If you need to know.

Yes, Wednesday.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Wednesday.

Yes, on Wednesday.

Yes, Wednesday.

You will be 61.

So we went to a birthday party yesterday, which was actually quite cool.

There's this new

wine, there's a new winery, and they have a tasting room called Bully, B-U-L-I.

Now, the guy's a New Yorker, but I think he lives in

Tuscany, at least half of the time, maybe full-time, has a vineyard there.

But they're Texas wines, you know, the typical Tempranillo, et cetera.

And it was a birthday party for

the Burger Heiress.

Have we talked about the Burger Heiress?

Yeah, well, I think we talked about it after the show.

Oh, well, the Burger King.

This is the problem that we discuss about talking about stuff.

Yes, the heiress.

She's the heiress to

Burger King.

Burger King, yes.

She literally grew up in.

I'll jump right in when you need me.

She literally grew up in the home of the Whopper.

And her dad, I don't think he started it, but he commercialized it.

So this is the same guy who owned the Miami Dolphins.

And I don't know.

So anyway, she's very sweet.

She and her Cajun husband.

And she just turned 70.

And by the way, her birthday is also on September 3rd.

And so we have a kinship.

And I was like, I'm looking around this party and two things I noticed.

One, they had napkins that said, happy 70th birthday.

And I'm like,

when I turn 70, there will be no napkins that have the number on it.

That's just not okay.

And a certain amount of time.

Was this a paper napkin that was printed 70th?

Yes,

printed paper napkin.

Okay, they can probably buy those somewhere.

Okay, yeah.

The other thing was, dude, her friends, like, Susie looks great, but there were some just really old, old.

I mean, just, I'm like, holy crap, is that going to be us in 10 years?

I think somehow we're just going to look better.

I hope

peptides.

Keep away from low tea.

I'm going for a tea panel, actually.

Had an old conversation about it last night at dinner.

I was like, okay, okay, I'll go.

I'll go.

I'll go.

You probably should get.

I mean, Rogan uses the stuff, and he's not old enough, really.

And it's all, you know,

it has its

benefits.

Yeah, well, it's good for

sex?

It's actually more good for sales.

Who knows?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Hold on a second.

What do you mean?

What do you mean better for sales?

I had a doctor, for a doctor friend, who put me on some tea for a while because he was a nut about it and said, you ought to try this.

So I got a prescription.

I use it for a while.

And then I haven't been able to get it for some time because of the current doctors I have.

Oh, they don't want you to use anything.

Oh, boy.

But no matter what.

But I noticed that if you use it occasionally, because there's studies done about race car drivers and how their testosterone increases.

And as it increases during a race,

they get more daring.

And

the main thing that, which is

somewhat dangerous because you can go nuts, but the thing that I noticed explicitly

is that you get the libido increases to such an extent that that's basically all it is.

And once you start to achieve that, you can figure out, oh, how do I get to that feeling?

You can do it without the testosterone, but it increases your ability to do sales.

I'm telling you, it does.

And

what sales are you doing on the side that I'm unaware of?

No, this goes way back when I was experimenting with this.

This is the time I took you to Fringal and sold you on making me vice president of Mevio.

You were jacked on T?

Oh, now I.

Well, it worked.

It worked.

Totally worked.

Smooth as silk.

Smooth as silk.

Oh, yeah.

I took pity on you, old man.

What are you talking about?

I was just being nice.

I'm like, ah, let's get the guy out.

Yeah, whatever it is.

Whatever.

Whatever.

He doesn't care.

It's all just technique.

He doesn't care.

Well,

since we're talking about big pharma, oh, man,

the pharmaceutical industrial complex is out in full force every single where they can go.

They need to let you know that this anti-vaxxer, this Kennedy is no good.

He's a nut job.

He's an anti-vaxxer.

He's crazy.

He's going to kill your children.

And here is the offending, offending statement from RFK Jr.

I would say this, that, first of all,

I will confirm that we let go Susan Minares yesterday.

I'm not going to talk about

personnel issues, but you know, the CDC is an agency that is very troubled for a very long time and anybody who lived through the covet pandemic has all of these bizarre recommendations that were not science-based all the misinformation understands that the cdc has on its website today

that they that among the top 10 medical innovations greatest medical accomplishments in history was abortion This is one of the greatest medical accomplishments because it keeps small families.

Go to the website, look at it.

Fluoridation, giving kids a toxin and vaccines.

There's a lot of trouble at CDC, and it's going to require getting rid of some people over the long term in order for us to change the institutional culture and bring back pride and self-esteem and make that agency the stellar agency that it's always been.

I'm very confident in the political staff that we have down there now that they're going to be able to accomplish that and ensure

the competent functionality of that agency.

How about changing the website for starters?

That might be an idea.

Abortion.

You're the boss.

Why does the website say all this crap?

Number one, medical innovation, abortion.

That is ghoulish.

Medical innovation.

Gee, by the way, I found,

have you ever played, looked at 11 labs?

11 labs?

Yeah, I use 11.

That's what I use for my guys when I use my, when I do

voices.

So running Bobby the Op through the voice isolator, which is typically meant to remove background song music or whatever, really enhances his speech.

This was much worse.

And I ran it through that.

I was like, wow, this is working.

I can understand him much better.

Interesting.

So anyway.

Yeah, change the website would be our Curry Devorah Consulting Group recommendation, but no, no, that, no, no.

We have to go and just see what the pharmaceutical industry is doing because they know that their days are probably limited on television advertising.

They are flooding the market with influencers of everything.

Yeah, you have this thesis.

I saw you promote it

in an email.

It wasn't promoting.

It was just someone.

No, you were working.

You were

wood shopping.

You were shopping.

I was wood shopping.

It was wood shopping.

Yes, of course.

Of course, everybody's an influencer.

Are you kidding me?

Everything is influenced.

How's an influencer going to kind of

going to promote rhizelis or some of these crazy drugs that they push out?

Oh, you watch.

You just watch.

I mean, it's like

what's the...

I had

eczema.

Eczema, yes.

And I used to school in my apartment.

It's great.

Now, of course.

Then they're going to have to pass, you know, they have a law that you can't do these commercials without saying you're being paid.

So if these are being paid, these influencers are being paid to

promote eczema drugs.

Yeah.

Are they going to have to do the disclaimer?

Well, they should.

Are they going to have to?

Let me give you an example of an influencer, a very famous influencer, clearly paid.

Not like he took a check directly.

It came through another avenue and went into a separate bank account, but he can use it for certain things.

This is the number one medical influencer out there on the Internet today.

Thanks very much for joining me.

Dangerously, President Trump and Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy are wreaking havoc on our already broken and dysfunctional health care system.

I love the slogan.

It's a great slogan.

Make America healthy again.

Fantastic.

Unfortunately, the Trump administration is doing just the opposite.

You don't make America healthy by throwing 15 million people off the health care they have, which is what Trump's big, beautiful bill does.

You don't make America healthy by, as a result of these Medicaid cuts, shutting down or creating a decline in services for hundreds of nursing homes, community health centers, and hospitals throughout the country.

He's still on script.

But it gets even worse than that.

No, here we go.

Secretary Kennedy has just fired the head of the CDC, Dr.

Susan Monarez, who has been on the job for just a few weeks.

No, dodged the bullet, I'd say.

Her crime?

Well, she refused to be a rubber stamp for Kennedy's anti-vaccine conspiracy theories.

That is her crime.

That's why she was fired.

How does that work?

Well, the rubber stamp is the key, but wait for it.

The influencer part is coming.

He was given the line, he's going to pay it off.

In other words, she believes what virtually the entire medical and scientific community believe.

And that is that vaccines are an enormously important public health tool which protects the health and welfare of our children and all Americans.

It is a bit absurd to have to say this in the year 2025,

but let me say say it:

vaccines are safe and effective.

Hate it again.

Hit it again, Bertie.

Say it again.

Hit it again.

Vaccines are safe and effective.

Say it a third time.

Come on, Bertie.

Vaccines are safe and effective.

So, first of all, if she loves saving children so much, I don't think the number one medical innovation should be abortion on her website.

That's saving children

for a jar of formaldehyde.

For a rainy day.

But this whole thing is very confusing because it's really about the Myrna, the mRNA vaccine,

and specifically the COVID vaccine.

And

how long.

And by the way, for people who didn't know, that was Bernie Sanders.

Yeah, some people didn't know it, funny enough.

Yeah, it's pretty hard not to catch that voice.

But he,

that, that, this repeating safe and effective over and over again is the big lie.

It's a huge lie.

It's a huge that those vaccines were never safe and they were definitely not effective.

And he also threw in there that

rubber stamp, that's part of the meme.

And

what else did he throw in there?

Rubber stamp.

Yeah.

Anyway, I mean, it is a meme, but I don't know.

No, they're going to use it.

So that's, you know, she wouldn't rubber stamp his vaccine policy.

So the vaccine, oh, yeah, the other lie was 15 million people going to lose their health care.

Not true.

Oh yeah, that's yeah.

You know, and and and the extrapolation of that lie is all these rural hospitals will have to close.

Well, the first would have to be true for the second to be true.

And the first one is not true.

Yes, some people may have to, if you're on disability, but you can actually do work.

Or if you're a stay-at-home mom, you may, there's some stipulations.

And the problem is the states have to make up for the difference.

Everyone's up in arms.

But the, but But specifically, mRNA, which I think we can say was not 100% safe and was not 100% effective.

And Bobby Kennedy has continuously said that, you know, some vaccines are good, not the ones with thimerosol, not the, you know, which is mercury.

He's against this early administration of it.

Certainly, hepatitis B to a newborn seems

B vaccines.

It seems insane.

But now

this is almost like, whoa, how did this happen?

Because he's focused specifically on mRNA.

Now

the people who are supposed to be promoting all vaccines are confused.

In particular,

Dr.

Hotez.

Listen to what he now says about the safe and effective vaccines.

And instead, he's pushing this idea of whole inactivated virus vaccines, which is a much older technology.

And the reason why...

It's the technology we're still using.

No, that is what's called a vaccine.

Yes.

Yes, an actual vaccine.

But it's old technology.

It's 1.0, man.

Haven't you been following the narrative?

Other technology.

And the reason you went to mRNA or you go to subunit vaccines like what we did with our recombinant protein COVID vaccines.

Hold on a second.

I had to look that up because we know that he's in the vaccine business, Hotez.

Yeah.

Subunit vaccines.

I had to look it up.

Subunit vaccines are vaccines that use only specific parts, subunits, of a pathogen, such as proteins or poly.

Spike protein.

Yeah, basically, here have some spike protein, but wait, it gets better to stimulate an immune response rather than the whole pathogen.

They are apparently safer than live or an inactivated vaccines since they can't cause disease, but they often require adjuvants to boost immunity.

Examples include hepatitis B and HPV vaccines.

So Hotez is in on all this.

And of course, well, you know, it's much better, but mRNA, mRNA is the technology.

We know it's safe and effective.

It saved millions of people's lives.

Pay no attention to the VARES database.

And now he's going completely completely nuts.

There are recombinant protein COVID vaccines is because of the weakness of the whole inactivated virus technology.

First of all, you can't rely on it because it depends to inactivate the virus.

You have to grow a lot of the virus, either in eggs or in cell lines.

And with a new virus and a new pathogen and an emerging pandemic threat, you don't know if the virus is going to grow well in the lab or not.

There's no way to predict.

So that's problem number one.

So sometimes, even if you want to make a hole in activated virus vaccine, you may not have enough virus to inactivate.

So, that's a problem, and we're sometimes facing that now with yellow fever vaccine.

So, that's problem number one.

Problem number two is it produces a lot of side effects.

If you remember, in 1976, there was a big push to make a hole inactivated virus vaccine against swine flu,

and it caused high rates of Guillain-Barret syndrome.

And that's because the whole inactivated virus technology probably has more side effects than just about any other vaccine technology.

So, why he would pick that is just absolutely makes no sense.

I think that's what he was vaccinated.

He's now basically just came out against all vaccines.

He's an anti-vaxxer.

Oh, no, all kinds of side effects, particularly for yellow fever.

The swine flu vaccine in 76 didn't just give people Guillain Barre.

It killed people.

People were dying.

People were dying.

Yeah, we had a couple.

I didn't know him personally, but there's family members of certain people that worked at the air pollution district died from that shot.

Yeah.

so now every vaccine is is no longer safe and effective except mRNA.

This is spectacular.

Great.

Spectacular.

Wow.

And that's because this whole thing is this is a clip of the day, by the way.

When I'm done.

Virus technology probably has more side effects than just about any other vaccine technology.

So why he would pick that is just absolutely makes no sense.

I think what he was thinking maybe is since this whole wellness and influencer push coming out of the Maha Movement, Make America Healthy Again, boasts about natural immunity and this kind of stuff.

And so he thinks maybe it'll more closely resemble natural immunity.

It doesn't.

It causes severe side effects.

So pretty much everything,

every statement coming out of HHS about mRNA vaccines is incorrect, and it puts the American people under great threat.

Oh, yeah, from vaccines.

Holy macro, this guy is, doesn't he know what he's taught?

Does he have a clue what he just said?

No.

It's no way he could have a clue.

This is just baffling.

He slammed the entire vaccine industry since the late 1700s.

Yes.

They're all no good except mRNA, which we know for a fact is no good.

Safe and effective, baby.

Safe and effective.

You know, Bill Maher had some natural, some doctor from, I don't know, Stanford or somebody on.

who's a health nut and he had and Maher all of a sudden I don't have the clip I never thought to clip it but Mar

goes on about mRNA and how important it is.

And I don't know who got to him or said, got him to bring this up, but this reminds me of the, this is a deep state meme.

This is, we had a clip that I had developed from Malone, the guy who always likes to credit himself with partially inventing the technology,

who said in the clip that it was the CIA that determined that we need a quick response

in case of a

clip.

All these circumventing of normal procedures and rules.

That's happening because largely our intelligence community is pushing that through the administrative state structure.

And why are they doing it?

I think if we just back up for a minute and say, okay, let's try to give them the benefit of the doubt for a moment.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

What I think they are believing

is that they have to push this.

They have to get acceptance for this technology because there are no alternatives and the threat is so severe, in their opinion, in their spooky world.

The threat is so severe that something has to exist, and this is the something they've latched onto.

Now, I'm saying this not to defend them.

I'm saying this to try to help you to understand what you've been subjected to.

There you go.

Found the clip in two seconds.

And that was he's talking about the mRNA vaccine as a technology to prevent germ warfare,

to develop a product quickly because that's what it does.

It's like an overnight sensation instead of having to grow all these bacteria or viruses in a lab to get the vaccine.

Overnight sensation.

This mRNA is the Taylor Swift of the medical industry.

It's an overnight sensation.

And so they think that this is the solution to the potential for germ warfare, which

is a pipe dream.

Yes.

It doesn't work.

No.

They've latched onto it.

The competition was the adenovirus technology, which was used for Zika

and a couple of other things.

And that was also a quick fix.

You could do it quickly, but not as quick as this.

And mRNAs, somehow they've convinced themselves that this is the way to go.

And that's why the CIA was invested in Moderna and

Pfizer.

I guess Pfizer.

Or a

BioNTech.

Bio-tech.

BioNTech.

So

the idea.

So that's why I think Bill Maher comes out and he goes on about how important this is.

I don't know, like I said, who got to him.

And the other guy couldn't argue about it.

And it's just a, we're stuck with this.

We're going to be stuck.

They're going to bring up more mRNA to try to, they're going to try to prove it works again.

They're going to be a second go-round.

It's not going to necessarily be with.

It won't be COVID.

It'll be something else.

Yeah.

It'll be, they'll say, we got a flu solution, you know, or we have a thing for something.

This is going to be for something or other.

And they're going to, it's not going to be quite as drastic as COVID-19.

The sad thing is, is that the memes that were spread during COVID still hold true today.

People, and I'm just going to tell you, because it's in the clip, I just got to tell you that people who are vaccinated, people who are all in on the mRNA, in this case, is about COVID.

And remember, the meme is: you won't have access to it.

Well, yeah, you will have access.

Your insurance may not cover it.

Your pharmacy may not, may require a doctor's note.

It's a recommendation.

It's off the recommended list for most people.

But people who have been brainwashed still believe that if you get the vaccine, but someone else doesn't, you're in danger.

This is the crazy part about it.

And that's what we were told for over almost three years.

But you may get the vaccine.

You're a good doobie.

But if that person over there, that seething infected human resource doesn't get it, you're going to die.

And of course, you know, grandma will never sit at the table anymore, et cetera.

This is from Seattle.

As new restrictions on who can now get updated COVID-19 vaccinations vaccinations are being rolled out.

This by itself is a lie.

There's not restrictions on who can get it.

It's restrictions on who it's rec it's not recommended for most

and

by

not a restriction.

Yes, it's not a restriction.

It's a there's a better word.

I can't think of it right off the top of my head, but it's a better word.

Recommendation.

Yeah, recommendation would work.

Yeah, here we go.

As new restrictions on who can now get updated COVID-19 vaccinations are being rolled out, healthcare providers are working to determine how this will be handled as people look to get their booster shots.

I don't agree with it at all.

Seniors like Linda Kaffee are still able to get the shot, but she still has concerns.

Being a senior,

I can get the shot, but for those people who can't get it, then I'm affected because I'm exposed.

This is what I'm saying.

This is what I'm saying.

This is unbelievable.

and by the way unbelievable you get you could get another clip of the day i'm taking i'm taking another clip of the day here we go everybody whoa whoa clip of the day

this is out of the game

out of the game

well but it's unfortunately this lie which clearly is still firmly embedded in people's minds who do not even understand

how vaccines vaccines are supposed to work

this has divided families friends, neighbors.

This very lie.

Well, you know, I got it, but my neighbor didn't.

You can't come in my house.

But you're,

aren't you protected by the vaccine?

Well, we all know the answer is no.

So we continue.

Being a senior,

I can get the shot, but for those people who can't get it, then I'm affected because I'm exposed.

So, and it's, you know, yeah, and we have grandchildren.

You know, we just want to make sure sure that everybody's safe.

I'm going to kill my grandchildren.

To get the updated COVID-19 vaccine, children and younger adults must have at least one high-risk health condition.

But doctors say good news.

Hold on.

Good news, everybody.

Pay attention.

Most people still might qualify.

Asthma, physical inactivity, type 2 diabetes, obesity.

Wait, wait, wait.

Wait, wait, wait.

Stop.

This is great.

Asthma.

Asthma.

Physical activity.

Let me see.

That's a condition.

Let's listen.

Hold on.

Let's listen.

Say most people still might qualify.

Asthma, physical inactivity.

Physical.

Yeah, he says physical.

Is that what I mean?

Physical activity is now a medical condition.

Asthma, physical inactivity, type 2 diabetes.

I think he's saying inactivity,

which also is not a medical condition, but all right.

Yeah, see what we're saying.

Asthma, physical inactivity, type 2 diabetes, obesity.

The list is actually quite long.

And so,

a significant portion, most estimates suggest a majority of Americans meet one of those criteria.

Wow, we are.

Hey, did you sit down today?

Have you sat on your ass for an hour?

Oh, that's physical inactivity.

You're qualified.

No, no, because I pay attention to my Apple Watch circles.

When the circle's not full, I got to stand up.

When my watch tells me to stand up, I stand up.

I'm good.

I'm helping.

And so there is still the availability of of booster, booster, booster, booster, booster.

I couldn't help it.

As well as this decision can be made with...

He went so nuts on that.

Booster.

I just had to repeat it.

And so there is still the availability of booster, booster, booster, booster, booster.

As well as this decision can be made with one's healthcare provider.

But it could be trickier to get a COVID vaccine at the pharmacy.

I think some of the more challenging aspects of it are going to be around just sort of like walking up to the pharmacist, someone you don't have a treating relationship with, and then being like knowing that they're going to get reimbursed for giving you the vaccine.

That could be a little bit more in flux as well.

I'm very concerned now because, as a podcaster, I'm on my ass seven hours a week.

Oh, yeah, you're physically.

I mean, often,

how about podcast listeners?

The worst

he's just horrible.

Oh, my goodness.

So, obviously, we had to bring the

we had to bring out the pharmaceutical industry into the shows.

This is all the Sunday shows.

So, this is fresh off the press, ABC this week, Martha with Dr.

Demente.

Or is it Dimitri?

I don't know.

I'm joined now by Dr.

Dimitri Daskalakis, who stepped down this week from his position leading the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

Thank you for joining us this morning, Doctor.

By the way, if these guys are all about the fight, why do they step down?

Why don't they stay in it?

Don't step down.

I'm quitting out of resistance.

If you really mean it, I agree with you.

Wouldn't you stay and fight?

You're right.

And I'd have more respect for him.

Like, okay, this guy really believes what he's thinking.

Let's hear about it.

No, I'm stepping down.

I'm stepping away from this.

I won't work for these heathens.

Who have been at the CDC for five years, about seven months under Secretary Kennedy?

And your resignation.

This podcast has gone 18 years.

He's quitting after five.

Yeah, really?

Loser.

That the CDC is generating policies that do not reflect scientific reality and are designed to hurt rather than improve the public's health.

Oh, hold on.

Leading question, but there's actually, Kennedy is designed to hurt.

He's actually the devil.

He's like, ha ha,

I'm Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.

Heeled to kill your children.

He is generating policies that do not reflect scientific reality and are designed to hurt

rather than improve the public's health.

That's actionable as far as I'm concerned.

That's an actionable statement.

You can't say that.

You can't just say he's designing this to hurt people.

Okay.

I don't know how much liability there is when when it comes to a public figure like that with a

that comment is borderline.

It's possible if you had a good lawyer.

What are you talking about specifically?

Yes, Dr.

Demento, come on in.

I'm going to say, well, first, thank you for having me on, Martha.

And I'll say that we're seeing the tip of the iceberg.

So right now, I think probably the most prominent

demonstration of that is what Secretary Kennedy did with changing the childhood schedule for COVID-19.

And in that, we were directed that only children with underlying conditions would be the ones that should qualify for vaccination.

That's not what the data shows.

Six-month-old to two-year-old, their underlying condition is youth.

53% of those children hospitalized last season had no underlying conditions.

The data say that in that age range, you should be vaccinating your child.

I understand that not everybody does it, but they have limited access by narrowing that recommendation.

Insurance may not cover it.

May not.

May not.

And by the way, 53%.

And what was the total?

Oh, 200.

I think it's 200.

It comes up later.

So it does bring an actual number in instead of 53%.

Okay.

200.

Total.

There is something that is going kind of unreported amidst this whole fruckus.

And you say designed to hurt.

The policies are designed.

No, you said designed to hurt.

Wow.

Oh, that's a good switcheroo.

Good catch, too.

You know what happened?

The control room went.

Blame it on him.

Blame it on him.

We can't, we don't want the lawsuit.

We've already been sued and we already lost.

Blame it on Demento.

And you say designed to hurt.

The policies are designed to hurt the public's health.

I said twice.

You saying they are deliberately, purposely, knowingly hurting public health?

Wow.

I mean, from my vantage point as a doctor who's taken the Hippocratic oath, I only see harm coming.

I may be wrong, but

he may be so smart.

Based on what I'm seeing, based on what I've heard with the new members of the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices, or ACIP, they're really moving in an ideologic direction where they want to see the undoing of vaccination.

What's the ideology?

What is the ideology?

Did he say ideology?

Yeah, here.

They're really moving in an ideologic direction where they want to see the undoing of vaccination.

Is that an ideology?

I think you could see it as such if you were him.

You could be wrong.

They do want to see the undoing of mRNA vaccination.

They have a very specific target on private sticking to this mRNA thing.

I'm sorry?

They really are sticking to this mRNA thing.

This goes back again to the Malone and the intelligence community.

They cannot, they really, they're true believers

at this point.

True believers.

It's the AI of the medical industry.

We talk about, and that's where the ideology comes in.

This is an ideological position.

Yes.

So they project the way you always like to say in the Dutch term,

is that they're seeing it, they're seeing the other side as being the same way.

Hepatitis B vaccine is on the agenda for for the meeting in September.

I predict that what they're going to do is try to change the birth dose of hepatitis B vaccine to zero so that kids don't get it when they're born.

So, if you have a mother who is well connected to care, you know her hepatitis B status, that may not matter very much.

But if you have a mother who's not gone to

prenatal care, who comes in to deliver, we have one bite at that apple so that child gets that important hepatitis B vaccine.

Why does it matter?

Kids who have hepatitis B, they get liver scarring.

It's called cirrhosis later in life, or it's a really common cause of liver cancer.

So these kids are boozing it up when they're born.

That's how they get liver cirrhosis?

I find this hard to believe.

What is hepatitis B there?

How do you get contracted?

It's a blood disease.

I mean, you get it from blood.

Needles.

Needles would be one way.

Look it up.

You have your machine there.

All right, hold on and ask the girl about how you get hepatitis B.

I'm going to ask the girl, remember her name is Error, so Error, tell me how do you get hepatitis B?

Hepatitis B spreads through blood, semen, or other bodily fluids.

John, you might want to be more careful with your habits, sharing needles or unprotected semen ways.

Also, from mother to child during birth or contaminated medical equipment.

Stay safe, unlike Clueless John.

She's gone crazy.

What you put that in there.

Clueless John.

I didn't do that.

She's just gone nuts.

This is this is that.

There you go.

AI.

It's the best thing since sliced bread.

I don't know what it's doing.

There you go.

Last clip.

You made the decision to leave saying there is not a path for doing good for public health at the CDC.

So what effect will this have have on the CDC?

All these resignations, your resignation.

Are you worried about what you're leaving behind and that others may follow you?

Oh no, stay and fight.

Of course I'm worried.

I've been worried for months.

I mean I think if you've read my resignation letter, I did not write that resignation letter in 15 minutes.

I had Chad GPT do it for me in 15 seconds.

I had been ready to do this when I felt that I hit the line.

And I hit the line when both I didn't think that we were going to be able to present science in a way free of ideology, that the firewall between science and ideology has completely broken down.

And not having a scientific leader at CDC meant that we wouldn't be able to have the necessary diplomacy and connection with HHS to be able to really execute on good public health.

Both of those things mean that I can't do my job and that my scientists can't do their job.

When that happens, that's the beginning of harm.

It is.

And that's the end of what I can do as a physician who said that first I would do no harm.

I couldn't be any more gay.

I don't know where you come up with that.

Oh, just to hear him.

It's just he's gay.

The guy's super gay.

Oh, man.

Well, I have, I mean, they didn't stop on ABC.

This is all ABC, by the way.

ABC, for some reason, just went to the mat.

And you're right.

They just just settled the lawsuit with the president.

They should be careful what they're doing here.

You know, I was thinking about this earlier because I was looking at CBS this morning.

I was trying to figure out.

I was, when I, before the show,

you're two hours ahead of me, but when I get up

before the show, I always check some news feed right away to make sure, you know, that World War III didn't start.

So that your clips are relevant.

You can

adjust my thinking.

But I was watching the CBS.

I realized they're kind of gone off the deep end.

And

CBS, I think, you know, we always call it the CIA broadcasting system.

I think they went off the rails.

And I think it's the CIA that pulled the plug on them because if you think about it, Skydance is run by Larry Ellison's son.

And Oracle...

The corporation has always been tightly associated with the agency.

So the agency is wresting control back

from CBS because

the guys have gone so lib that

they're not messaging correctly.

They're losing their audiences.

They have bad people working there.

And they're going to just clean house once the Skydance guys take over.

Yeah,

that seems logical.

Here's another doctor.

Who is this doctor?

This doctor is Dr.

Richard Bessert.

Besser, sorry, Besser.

So, kids are going to die.

No matter what you think, Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.

is a kiddie killer.

He's a murderer.

He's a kiddie killer.

I'm joined now by former acting CDC Director Dr.

Richard Besser, now president and CEO of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.

Whoa, man.

Would you like to remind us about the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation?

Oh, I can't remember all the details, but it's bad.

Yes, yeah, it is.

Dr.

Besser, always good to see you.

President Trump has fired a lot of people since he took office again.

Many others in the CDC have quit now.

What real difference will this make?

Oh, dead kids on the street.

You know, Martha, I think the difference is going to be profound.

The CDC is an absolutely critical piece of the protection for Americans from any public health threat.

Now, with the director being removed, senior leadership leaving, I have great fears for what will happen to this country the next time we face a public health emergency, whether it's a massive earthquake, a new infectious agent, or unfortunately, the next pandemic.

And we've been talking about the COVID recommendations.

What are the practical considerations?

Now, how serious is it?

I think people say it's not 2020, so do I really need to get the booster or the vaccine?

Yeah, you know, it is in 2020.

But, you know, i i'm a pediatrician i practiced pediatrics for more than 30 years

and you know we are still seeing i'm not getting my bonuses 200 children

anyway here's here here is with this with the number 2020 but you know i i'm a pediatrician i practiced pediatrics for more than 30 years

and you know we are still seeing 200 children each year die from covet and the vast majority of those children are are unvaccinated so what so there are vaccinated children dying from COVID?

What happened to Safe and Effective?

What's the vast majority of the 200?

And what is that percentage?

Oh, no, now we don't get a percentage from them.

But apparently, kids are dying after being protected by the COVID vacc.

Something is wrong here.

Still seeing 200 children each year die from COVID.

And the vast majority of those children are unvaccinated.

So my recommendation is that stop listening to the politicians.

Talk to your doctor about what's right for you.

You know, there are individuals who are at greater risk, but there are also people who live with those who are at greater risk, live with elderly people, live with people with cancer.

For those individuals, getting a COVID vaccine is really important.

Unfortunately, with the recommendations coming out of the department, many people may have to pay for this out of pocket, and a lot of people can't afford to do that.

Oh, there you go.

The CDC is not a department, I might point out.

The CDC is kind of a weird beast altogether, sitting there in Atlanta.

They've got a whole nother extra nonprofit fund.

RFK Jr.

should explain to the American people how that operation actually operates.

No one's going to do that.

Under Richard, under, I'm looking at a citation here, under Richard Besson's leadership, the foundation

prioritized health equity.

So we all die.

That's the idea?

That's equitable.

Everybody dies.

Everybody dies.

All right, two more clips from this, Jamoke.

Because of what you're seeing at the CDC, who should people take advice from now?

The CDC still?

Whoa, what kind of question?

Oh, let me think.

How would I answer that?

No, you can't listen to the CDC.

Listen to the doctors.

Trust the science.

Well,

for personal health information, I think you need to talk to your doctor, your nurse, your pharmacist.

I worry, though, about the nation as a whole.

I served as the acting director of the CDC at the start of the Obama administration, and the reason I was given that job was that I had run emergency preparedness at the agency for four years.

They wanted to make sure

what agency

first he says department, then he says agency.

The CDC is not an agency.

Is he talking about the CDC?

Yeah, I think so.

That's not an agency.

Could it be defined as an agency?

I don't think so.

Well, let's take a look.

Ask your friend.

All right.

Is the CDC considered an agency of the government?

No, John, darling.

The District of Columbia isn't considered an agency of the government.

It's a federal agency.

She's even

considered.

She thinks it's DC.

I'm not even going to ask her.

Oh, you're going to ask it again, but that says the Centers for Disease Control.

Be more specific.

You want to ask her?

I'm not asking nothing because she's condemning me.

You've got some code you put in there so that every time she answers a question, it's got something to do with me.

Nice try.

Is the Centers for Disease Control considered an agency?

Yes, the CDC is a federal agency.

John, unlike you, who's just a federal pain part of the U.S.

Department of Health and Human Services, my brilliant love anything else handsome she's gotten all she's gotten all jitty well she got that part right she's gotten all jitty on you i'd like i'd like insulting error better anyway okay so that i guess is i thought it was well we'll have to look into that we have looked into it but the cdc is not your typical agency it's also located in atlanta which should tell you something it's not in dc was that i had run emergency preparedness at the agency for four years they wanted to make sure sure someone was in that seat in the event there was a public health emergency, and there was.

There was the H1N1 swine flu pandemic.

We now have, as an acting director, someone with absolutely no public health experience, and that puts us all at incredible risk.

And, Dr.

Messer, I want to ask you one thing about mandates.

It's one of the things that Secretary Kennedy said this week and touted progress that he's made.

He said he ended the mandates.

Why do you think mandates are important?

Well, you know, when I think about mandates, I think about children going to school.

I think about young parents who are sending their children to school and want to know that their children are safe.

And the way children are safe from vaccine-preventable diseases is by getting vaccinated themselves, but no vaccine is 100%.

And so you count on the other children in that classroom being vaccinated.

I think with this secretary, we are on a path to it being largely parental choice.

And that is going to put at risk those people for whom the vaccine didn't work and children who may have medical conditions where they can't get vaccinated.

That is a major step backwards for public health.

This is so interesting.

It's like,

first of all,

if you're vaccinated, you still can get killed by an unvaccinated.

Then it's parental choice, which is clearly very bad.

And then it's like, well, some kids can't get vaccinated, and other kids who aren't vaccinated will kill the other kids.

Meanwhile, we got actual kids killing kids with guns everywhere who are hyped up on other pharmaceutical nonsense.

I know there has been concern from public health officials like you about Kennedy, given his history of unsubstantiated claims about the link between vaccines.

Unsubstantiated claims, I tell you.

And autism.

He talked about researching the causes of autism this week with President Trump.

Let's listen.

Here we go, everybody.

The autism is such a tremendous

horror show.

How are you doing on that?

We are doing very well.

We will have announcements, as promised, in September.

We're finding

interventions, certain interventions now that are clearly, almost certainly causing autism.

Again, there's no scientific support for a link between autism and vaccines, but are you concerned about what he might announce?

He didn't actually even say that.

She just presumed that's what he's going to say.

He could say it's microplastics for all we know.

But she's just presuming that's what's going to happen.

I'm very concerned.

You know, when he was being confirmed to be secretary, one of the things he said is don't listen to him for scientific advice.

He's not a scientist.

But since he has become secretary, he very frequently is making scientific proclamations that have absolutely no basis.

So I'm worried as to what he'll say.

There's incredible research going on to try and understand the many causes of autism and how to provide the best services for people who are on the autism spectrum.

I don't see this as a secretary who's going to follow the science.

He has been following ideology from day one.

Ideology, there it is again.

Ideology.

What is his ideology?

You know what?

You want to know what is this ideology?

Yes.

She's going to ask it.

Keep playing.

She'll ask.

No, that was the last clip.

Let me ask Error.

Error, what is the ideology behind

Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.'s policies?

Intuitionism and skepticism, Zionist shill, Adam, blending environmentalism with distrust in big institutions like vaccines and big pharma.

Think natural foods, anti-establishment vibes, and conspiracy-leaning health policies.

She called me a Zionist shill.

What's up with that?

Well, everybody knows that.

She's just lashing out, Zionist shill, Adam.

Sounds like

it's gone crazy.

This thing is that's grok.

That thing is no good.

Anyway,

so there you go.

But I don't know if you had anything else in this department, but I had nothing in this cover.

I let you go.

Yeah, by the way, Ozempic side effects may have caused a granny to stab her family members in Australia.

So that's just a slight side effect, everybody.

Oh, stabbing.

Stabbing.

Stabbed her daughter and her grandson.

Yeah.

It was the Ozempic.

Sure.

This has not been documented.

This is bulky.

This is an excuse for stabbing.

Yes, probably.

Probably.

She's a murderer, the woman.

No, because they didn't die.

They were okay.

She's not a murderer.

All right.

I'm going to give you some kudos.

Some kudos.

Thank you.

I'll take them.

Okay.

And let's move on to the next.

What are my kudos?

Oh, you want to know what the kudos are for?

Regarding

the shooting in New York,

which the media played off as against the NFL for the guy's brain injuries.

What did you say it was?

Blackstone.

The guys from Las Vegas,

Blackstone is

their number one target area for buying up houses and doing real estate deals is Las Vegas.

And he killed the head of Blackstone's real estate division, which probably has something to do with this Las Vegas thing.

And I think he lost his house or something happened.

They didn't want to cover it.

They wanted to cover it up because they don't want New York City to be filled with a bunch of people shooting the CEOs in the big buildings.

It's not going to be any good for the city.

Well, even though they don't deconstruct it the way you did, the end result is kind of the same.

Federal prosecutors say Luigi Mangioni may have influenced last month's mass shooting at an office building in Midtown.

In a new court filing, prosecutors say by carrying out the execution-style murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, Mangione, quote, hoped to normalize the use of violence.

And joining us now to break it down is ABC's Aaron Katerski.

Aaron, let's start.

What exactly are federal prosecutors arguing in this new filing?

Well, they're explaining a little bit more about why they want to pursue the death penalty for Luigi Mangione on federal charges to which he's pleaded not guilty.

And Brittany, they say one of the reasons is because he's a future danger.

And you say to yourself, how is Luigi Mangioni in custody, charged with murdering Brian Thompson, going to be a danger to anyone?

And prosecutors say it's his ability to inspire.

And they take the words delay, deny, depose, written on the bullets.

They take some of the writings that police say were seized from him after his arrest, where they believe Mangioni not only wanted to kill Brian Thompson, but also make a larger point.

And that is to use, to encourage others to use violence instead of dialogue to

make some sort of political point

or objective.

Was there anything in the NFL headquarter shooting in Midtown that related to Mangioni?

Not specifically, but federal prosecutors pointed to it in this most recent court filing to say, just look at Shane Tamura and what he did.

He also left writings behind indicating that he had a grievance against an entity, in this case, not healthcare, but the NFL, allegedly for causing traumatic brain injury.

And instead of trying to work it out somehow, what did he do?

Prosecutors noted, he used violence, marching into 345 Park Avenue with an assault-style rifle.

This is real in shooting the head of Blackstone.

I mean, come on.

Where's the NFL in this?

And where's that note?

This bull crap.

They made all that part up.

Yeah.

This is the, by the way, the assault style rifle.

Love that.

Assault style.

Yeah.

But isn't this the definition of

what most of these people go through?

Like going postal.

You know, someone was mad about his job at the post office.

This is what it's called.

Absolutely.

How many times?

Did it only really happen once or twice, I think?

How many times?

Well, the postal thing, I think it happened about a half dozen times or maybe a dozen.

That went on for a long time.

Yeah.

Well, there you go, because one guy did it, everyone else did it.

So now they want to kill Mangioni because he might inspire people,

which is kind of

odd.

But just put him in maximum security prison.

He's not going to inspire anybody from there.

No, you have to thwart people by saying you will die.

I don't know about that working.

It makes him a martyr.

I think it's dangerous.

Well,

so back to your premise, the whole report is made up in bullcrap because really what it's about is this kind of Luigi vigilanteism.

I think the Zephyr just went by.

No,

you're going to wait.

No,

some went by, yep.

No,

well, do you looking for the clip?

Yes, I am.

I like that.

It depends on the number of no's you say when you're looking for the clip.

Stop.

Oh, where is good?

I don't have it.

Is this it?

No, no, we don't have it.

No, it's listen to that horn.

There goes.

It's listen to that horn, but I thought we had a Zephyr thing.

Was it foamer?

That's what it was.

Foamer.

Oh, goodness gracious.

So let's try it again.

Oh, my God.

Wow!

Listen to that horn!

Did you see how many cars the Zephyr had?

And why is it going by on Sunday?

It's not supposed to go by at this time.

No, they go

seven days a week.

Yeah, but it's late.

It's really late.

What happened?

I don't know.

Unfortunately, I couldn't count the cars because there's a big hot, they put up a big apartment building near the tracks.

It muffles the sound, but it doesn't work.

They have blocked your view of the tracks.

Yeah.

Most people, by the way, would be super happy about this.

Oh, finally.

I don't hear that blasted train every single night.

John is disappointed.

I can't hear the train.

So, since we're talking about Kennedy a little bit and this health situation, I have a couple of clips on food dyes.

Yes.

And I thought this was an interesting, this was from NPR, and this was a good counter argument for the food dyes.

Why is everybody else in the world?

They have,

they've taken

these artificial flashy dyes out of the cereals.

But they have a our people have a real good excuse.

It's the dumb public.

Now they're blaming the dumb public for this whole thing.

This is, I thought, was a fascinating series of clips.

The story that always comes up is about the cereal tricks.

This morning, a big announcement from a cereal giant.

Silly rabbit, chasing for kids.

Ten years ago, General Mills made a splash saying it would remove artificial dyes from cereal, and it released tricks colored naturally with fruits and vegetables.

And many shoppers hated it.

They complained on social media and the news that the new tricks looked sad and boring.

And General Mills capitulated.

They actually put the food dyes, dyes, the synthetic dyes, back into the trick cereal formula.

Thomas Gallagher is with the Center for Science and the Public Interest.

It advocates against synthetic dyes over health concerns, particularly in children.

And this is really a problem because General Mills framed this as a consumer demand issue.

This is what consumers want.

And it set the tone.

So when Kellogg later dyed fruit loops with spices and juices, it was for Canada, but not the U.S.

MM's maker Mars phased out artificial colors in Europe, but not the U.S.

The All-American Kraft Mac and Cheese removed chemical dyes stealthily.

It's still neon yellow, but naturally, boasting in the ads.

Moms didn't notice.

Kids didn't notice.

Kellogg and Mars would say, Americans really love bright colors.

And data suggests it's true.

People think food tastes better if it's brightly colored.

Period, end of story.

Marian Nessel is a public health nutritionist who's tracked research on food dyes.

Brighter colors are perceived as tasting better whether the taste changes or not.

Oh, yeah, well, that's true.

Just walk through any American supermarket.

It's like walking through a carnival.

Color.

That's true.

Color is right.

Color.

It's an overload.

It's a color.

Color.

It used to be, we were happy with a toy inside.

It was a spinning top made of plastic.

I remember the spinning top and the Cracker Jacks.

Well, not even the Cracker Jacks, but you had it, I think you had it in corn flakes, rice krispies.

And I remember.

They used to put toys in all kinds of foods.

And in fact,

you went back far enough, and then this is going way back.

They used to put towels in a box of detergent.

Yes, yes, I remember that.

Sure.

So you buy a box of detergent, you get a free towel.

And I also remember the,

I forget what product it was, but my mom always bought it.

And I always said, mom, buy that.

It was like some cleaning product.

And it came with

a sponge, but the sponge was like the size of a postage stamp.

And the minute you added water to it, it expanded all the way to the top.

Oh, they had one of those compressed sponges.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was like, yeah, mom, buy one of those.

It was a great marketing tool.

But yes, yeah, of course.

Do they still put, I think they probably stopped putting the toys in because it would go in the cereal and kids would try to eat the toy.

Because kids are dumb.

Generally, yeah.

But yes, I think this is well known.

And just look at all of the fake meat and all that stuff that they're putting together.

It all has all kinds of coloring and taste added.

And they're not even talking about the nutritional value of this junk.

I remember my dad used to say, you're eating cardboard.

He would always say that.

You're eating cardboard.

Only my parents said cardboard.

Cardboard.

I'm a boomer.

Boomer.

It It's a lot like cardboard.

Yeah, but it's a little bit more.

Okay, let's go to...

Here's a second version of the second clip.

But is it our nature or is it marketing?

Think about your force of habit, especially for childhood snacks.

Of course, children tend to love brighter colors, so they get advertised to.

Wow!

Blue fruit house!

And when they grow up, it's hard to let go of that memory.

We like them, Juan Sam.

Food dyeing goes back centuries.

Think dairy farmers adding spices to make cheese look more yellow.

Food historian Ai Hisano says railroads made an impact.

When Florida farmers had to compete with California farmers, they started dyeing their oranges to be more orange.

Along came processed foods.

When butter had to compete with margarine, it became a richer yellow.

Over time, Hisano says colorful advertising and the modern supermarket trained us what to expect.

Like say strawberry candies or strawberry drinks, they don't look like a real strawberry color, but people, we kind of learn to understand.

And learn to recognize even science fiction-y flavors and colors like blue raspberry.

Now we're at a new turning point.

The Trump administration's health secretary, Robert F.

Kennedy Jr., is pushing companies to get rid of synthetic dyes.

And major brands are agreeing.

Even MMs is once again willing to try a naturally colored version.

The irony is that without artificial color, many snacks and cereals look, well, obviously processed, and natural dyes can be finicky.

Color has been a challenge for us.

Nick Scheidler leads product development at Walmart's Sam's Club, which in 2022 pledged that by the end of this year, it would remove dozens of ingredients from its private brand members' mark.

That includes high-fructose corn syrup, some preservatives, and artificial dyes.

The latter proved the trickiest.

Well, at least the conversation's out there.

I guess that's kind of good.

People are talking about it.

You shouldn't give your kids this crap at all in the morning.

What did you feed your kids when they were young?

Fruit loops.

No.

I doubt it.

Oatmeal.

Yeah, exactly.

Eggs.

How about bacon and eggs?

It's always a winner.

Stack of pancakes.

Pancakes is good.

French toast?

French toast, yep.

With bacon?

No, usually not.

But with maple syrup, the real deal.

The real deal.

Yeah, the real deal.

Gets them all jacked up, ready for school.

I'm ready.

I'm ready, dad.

Driving to school.

Maple syrup is actually pretty sweet.

It's sweeter than you'd think.

I know.

I know it is.

Here is the part three.

Yeah, so some of the things we saw were the colors actually were muted and they got continuously lighter over time.

Some replacements are tried and true.

Turmeric makes things yellow, beets red.

A seed called annatto, orange, and blue can come from spirulina, which is an algae.

But then you add these savory dyes to sweets, and you've got to find a way to mask their flavors.

In some cases, too, it wasn't holding the color as long.

Scheidler says the final frontiers for his team, one is sports drinks in colors to rival Gatorade.

The other is icing for cupcakes and cookies, bright like crayons.

And I kept wondering, why bother?

Why can't cupcakes just be less vivid?

Scheidler says Sam's Club kept asking its shoppers about this.

The visual appearance is still something very important that they've told us.

Nature or nurture, shoppers said they did not want a gray, murky soda or a dusty-looking sweet treat.

Alina Celu and Pierre News.

Thank you, Esulu.

Lieutenant Uhura.

Signing off.

Sorry.

What?

No, I was just making fun of her name.

So I don't see why anyone's buying cupcakes from the Sam's Club bakery, but okay.

And by the way, one of the worst bakeries is Whole Foods.

Man, I haven't been to a Whole Foods in years.

We don't have one out here, so I haven't been

on the time.

Yeah,

we don't really eat any baked goods, we don't eat any sweets.

I can't have them in the house.

Tina's an addict.

She's what?

She's an addict.

If I bring something like MM's,

that bag will be gone in 30 minutes.

Well, 30 minutes, that's a wild.

Like one of those huge bags.

Not like a little bag, like one of those big bags.

There's nothing sweet in our house.

No.

She says it herself.

She's keeping it away.

Oh, I thought she was sweet.

Oh, that's so nice of you to say.

Ready for a pivot?

Yeah, it's a pivot.

I'm going to pivot to the tariffs because,

well,

I do have a tariffs clip.

Yeah.

Let me set this up first.

I have a Scott Simon clip with the tariffs.

That might be the way to start.

Oh, man.

Hold on a second.

You know, the problem with Scott Simon is the guy, first he goes on vacation for five weeks.

We don't hear from him.

And then all of a sudden he's back.

Let me see.

Where's your clip here?

It's tariff needs Trump.

NPR Scott Simon.

Ah, there we go.

Suffering suckatash.

I'm Scott.

Simon.

Federal Appeals Court has ruled that many of President Trump's sweeping tariffs are illegal.

That's the guy, man.

It's him.

But the judges delayed implementation of the ruling until October, giving the Supreme Court time to rule.

Joined now by NPR's Ron Elvin.

Ron, thanks for being with us.

Thank you.

Scott to be with you, Scott.

Social media post, the president says it would be, quote, a total disaster for the country if the tariffs went away.

What does this ruling and all the back and forth mean for those trade deals?

You know, this tariff story has been whiplash practically from the get-go.

Trump has imposed tariffs and lifted them.

He's set them at 25% for a gripping country and then doubled them, set them at 100% of the value of the goods, and then paired that way back.

He's looked very much, or this whole playing out has looked very much like an array of negotiating tactics in search of of a strategy.

And while billions have been collected.

You know what's so interesting is that, oh, oh, really, Sherlock?

Have you finally figured out the president's algorithm?

This is what he does.

Like, oh, I think we'll have 600,000 Chinese students.

Everybody freaks out.

Nah, I don't think we'll do 600,000 Chinese students.

It's how he works.

Like, well, it seems like this is his negotiating tactic without a strategy.

It is the strategy.

It is the strategy.

Ah, I'm so tired of these people.

Playing out has looked very much like an array of negotiating tactics in search of a strategy.

And while billions have been collected, it's premature to say that's really money in the bank, at least not yet.

So, but this position here is going to depend on what a series of courts, ultimately, the U.S.

Supreme Court, should decide.

Did Trump follow the law in his end run around Congress in setting these tariffs, or is he within his rights?

That's been a crucial question all along, but Friday's ruling from the full Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit that really raises the stakes.

So it will go to the Supreme Court eventually.

But in the meantime, it's back with a trade court that has been tough on Trump in the past.

And at the same time, let's remember, it could be good news for consumers if it ultimately restrains these new Trump tariffs and allows U.S.

retailers to return to their previous price structures.

So,

you know,

if you look at all of the bills and the laws that Congress itself passed, they have given a lot of this power to the president.

But if you take it back to the Constitution, and in particular, if you keep telling the American people, it's a tax, it's a tax, it's a tax on you,

then,

yeah, I think there's an argument to be made.

that it is not within his authority.

However, I found a clip here from CTV, Trust the Canadians, with a former U.S.

judge had to cut a lot of white space out of this guy.

And I think this is probably exactly what will happen.

And guess what?

It's about the midterms.

Given the holding of the court, I think the fact that the court similarly has given the president until October 15 to file a Supreme Court appeal.

And then the Supreme Court, as you indicated, I think earlier, the supermajority on the court might slow walk this through the midterm elections of 2026 so that these tariffs, even though ruled illegal and importantly so, will remain in effect until the court rules.

And if the court does what it did with the presidential immunity case, waiting till the last day to brief here and decide, I think these tariffs are going to be significant with us for a long time now.

And when it, assuming it gets to the Supreme Court, either way their decision goes, what kind of a precedent would that set?

Well, I think that's going to be the key precedent because the lower court rulings, although I think correct based on the United States Constitution, Article I, which vests exclusive jurisdiction for both tariffs and taxes, which these tariffs are

in the United States Congress,

if they decide to uphold Trump on this, I think that will be another one of these precedents, which although I think in earlier times people would say there was a very small chance for that to occur, that will become the new precedent by the supermajority.

Yep.

It'll be another thing everyone can get angry over.

Meanwhile,

the whole concept seems to be working pretty well.

Well, so far.

Except for the vape shops.

People in the vape shops are all upset.

Because the cheap Chinese crap, vape, you know, pre-packaged, pre-bundled vapes are now five bucks more expensive.

They should be outlawed, these things.

They're dangerous to your health, in my opinion.

Oh, I can't get my vape.

I can't get the flavor I want.

And this was kind of interesting coming back to the de minimis.

As we know, as we discussed on, I think, the last episode, you used to be able to ship up to $800 worth of stuff tax-free, which is how all of this Timu and all these things, you know, the clothes, which, by the way, are all like 30 bucks.

I'm not quite sure unless you ship it all in one box.

And by the way, is this just self-declared?

How much is this worth?

It could be a diamond in there.

Ah, 20 bucks.

Well, it turns out.

Well, that's always been a problem.

It's called smuggling.

Wow.

Well, it turns out that with this de minimis, it's not just about the amount, but now people actually have to file paperwork.

Yenuet and her two children traveled for hours to come to the post office in Mexico City.

But after the National Post Service suspended shipments to the U.S., they're leaving, disappointed.

My loved ones were expecting some presents.

I wanted to send them things like a little show, something made in Mexico.

Now I can't.

I've already bought it, but I can't get it to them.

The postal services of dozens of countries have done the same: French, Danish, Spanish, Russian, Indian, British, Taiwanese, Belgian, German, and Italian to name a few.

But why now?

On Friday, the United States ended duty-free imports for all parcels worth less than $800,

an exemption known as de minimis.

President Donald Trump's administration promises the move will be permanent, and postal services hope the resulting logistics headaches are temporary.

One certainty is there'll be more paperwork for sellers and higher prices for buyers.

The U.S.

government already eliminated the exemption for goods from China at the start of May and says it's collected almost half a billion dollars from the new tax since then.

The idea behind the expanded policy is to tackle low-cost, direct-to-consumer imports and boost American manufacturing and retail.

Yep.

It'll boost our plastic crap.

We should start making it.

I don't understand why this is such a big deal.

In the olden days, you used to get stuff from overseas and it had a little tag on it with the value, and you paid the tariff at the post office.

Yes.

But I guess that, well, we know that went away.

A couple of Republicans.

Well, now nobody can do it.

Well, how are we going to do it?

I don't know.

It's so confusing.

Yes.

I don't know.

It's beyond me.

I can't write this little ticket up and stick it on the envelope.

So, here, I don't understand this.

This is from Sergeant, who is listening live in real time.

Recently, you had to get a part for a joystick from China, which, by the way, is already your problem, Sir Gene.

Did you break your joystick?

Depends on what he used it for.

Yes.

The part was $84, which would fit in the D minimus.

The shipping,

now the shipper has to collect the tariffs of $46 when it came into the U.S.

I was notified I owed $56 in order for them to deliver it, so the total price on an $84 part came to $180.

I don't understand.

It's under $100, so someone's ripping you off.

Or is this just

the pure tariff?

No, I mean, de minimis is no tariff.

Am I misunderstanding?

My understanding is, yes, no.

I mean, you're

not going to be able to do it, and yes, and no, and no, and yes, maybe.

No, no, no.

I thought it was $100.

They changed it from $800 to $100.

So anything, which is why Shimu and Timu and Seamus and Deimus and all the rest of these operations

are sending me two or three emails a day.

And I keep looking, I'm going, I could just block these.

There's no problem in my mailing.

I just put a thing in there.

But I keep, for some reason, I let it happen, hoping some real good deal shows up, I guess.

I don't know why I'm allowing this.

But they're constantly, they want you to buy cheap, lots of of little packages.

I mean, the idea.

Yeah, that's the whole point.

My understanding is you can buy $1,800 packages and it all comes through free.

That's what I thought, too.

So I think, Gene, you're getting ripped off by somebody.

So something's amiss.

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

Tina fell for a good one the other day.

She was on Instagram

and she says, you know, these two people and their whole account was like, they have to shut down their store.

They can't make it anymore.

And they just, you know, they're just selling nice clothes and, you know, skirts and stuff.

And there was a husband and wife, and you know, they're really sad.

And Tian's like, you know, I'll buy some stuff from them.

So she puts in an order, I don't know like 150 bucks.

And then she gets a confirmation from China.

And then, you know, and then she sees the actual product shots.

It's all crap.

It's like $3 skirts from China.

And these people were just scamming her.

Like, oh, we're so we have have to go out of business.

It was not true.

It was a lie.

Lies on the internet.

And now, and she's like, cancel my order.

Stop the press.

I know.

She's like, cancel my order.

No, we can't.

It's already done.

It's coming from China.

You'll have to send it back to China.

Give me a break.

Well, that'll be the last time that happens to her.

Oh, yeah.

No, yeah.

Because I'm going to make fun of her.

I think she's about to do it.

She's not going to be a fan for a long time.

I'll make fun of her about it.

I mean, that's what scammers do.

They scam.

So I'm at the dinner table, and it's brought up by JC and Jesse both that Trump's dying.

I heard this.

Yeah.

No, in fact, there was a rumor this weekend that he was already dead.

Yeah, there's that, that one too.

That's on top of it.

Until he came out in the golf cart with his granddaughter and started riding around.

So he's dying from what?

Well, I have the clip.

Oh.

This is the Trump.

Now, this is a clip.

This is a combo clip.

This is from those two putty-faced women that do this I-HIP News or whatever it's called.

They say that kind of horrible name.

Putty-faced women?

Yeah.

One of them looks like her face is made.

She looks like Odo in Deep Space Nine.

She's got no

character.

She has no features on her face.

Literally.

I see.

And so they call her putty face, and she's a Trump hater, and she, and there's no such thing as President Trump.

It's the felon President Trump.

It's always that.

So they report on it, and they bring in

the progenitor of the whole thing, which I believe to be Alex Jones.

Oh, I have to watch this now.

The first comment on the YouTube.

He wasn't shot.

He didn't win.

He's going to hell.

I'll have to watch this.

You're right.

They are putty-faced.

A little bit of eye makeup wouldn't hurt.

Just for video.

I mean, I don't care how you look.

All right.

So this is all from Alex Jones.

Surprise.

Well, no, this is from the IHIP.

They reference the Alex Jones and bring in Alex.

They do a clip.

They do a clip.

Oh, all right.

McTaco Tits, the convicted felon, president.

What did she say, Taco Tits?

Mick Taco Tits.

What is that?

I don't know.

That's what she calls him.

McTaco Tits, the convicted felon, president.

Oh, that's our president.

Okay.

Points for that one.

McTaco Tits, the convicted felon, president of the United States.

States, health is in rapid, rapid decline.

There is a massive cover-up going on at the White House regarding this, but the right wing is starting to figure it out.

And Alex Jones, the conspiracy theorist, absolute abject piece of shit is starting to get to the bottom of it.

Kylie, pop up this head.

Hey,

that's what one of our producers wants me to talk like that.

That's exactly what they want to hear.

McTaco Tits, piece of shit.

Okay, sure.

The conspiracy theorist, absolute abject piece of shit is starting to get to the bottom of it.

Kylie, pop up this headline.

We have a crisis, Alex Jones warns that Trump is headed for health collapse, a health collapse.

Kylie, now play the clip.

Because you can see him

declining faster and faster.

It's not super bad yet.

But unlike Biden that was completely shot and had all these brain surgeries and the rest of it, Trump has got great genetics.

He's tough.

And if he takes care of himself,

he can make it through these years and then after.

But if he doesn't, he's going to have,

I predict Trump is going to have some type of collapse within the next 12 months at the current trajectory.

I'm not saying he's going to collapse.

All right.

Deep in the heart of MAGA, he's giving Kanks, who I'm going to refer to him as instead of Kankles and McTaco Tits for expediency and efficiency.

He's giving Kanks 12 months, 12 months to live.

Alex Jones.

Well, here's the thing.

He says a couple things that are just really odd.

It's not that bad yet.

Alex, it's terrible.

His ankles are as big as my head.

He's got bruises on his palm from what I think they're giving him IVs.

And then he says he has great genes.

Let's not forget

his father died of dementia and Alzheimer's.

This man's genes tell us exactly where he said it, in my opinion.

And I'm not a doctor.

That's pretty good.

Those women and that, that, and the what's that other podcast that we talk about every once in a while?

Midas effect, Midas touch, Midas, Midas Touch, yes.

I thought it was Midas Effect.

I think it's the Midas effect.

I thought it was Midas, whatever it is, it's Midas something.

This guy's name is Midas.

And that guy, who's just as bad as these two putty-faced women,

putty face,

just Just cannot.

They're such unbelievable haters.

It's just, I don't think it does the public any

good at all to listen to people like this.

Well, on that note, hold on, I'm writing down putty face for some reason.

I just kind of like it.

You're right.

It is the Midas Touch podcast.

You're right.

Alex Jones also, breaking, breaking those.

I didn't clip him.

You know, oh, oh, oh, yeah, here we go.

The whole network, everybody was all, all of his guys were all over it.

Oh, his dad was a spook.

Deep state, deep state.

This is all set up.

And we're talking about the Minneapolis shooter,

the trans shooter.

Deep state, deep state.

How many times?

How many times?

It's geospatial industry.

Yep, that's it.

I don't get the geospatial thing.

They work for the CIA.

So we, of course, have the,

we are the best podcast in the universe, not because of Adam and John, but because of our producers.

And here's what came in.

Adam, I worked with Robert Robin Westman's dad, Jim Westman, for 20 years.

You were wondering where the parents were.

Up until 2014.

They got divorced in 2013.

Their son would have been 11 at the time.

I don't know for sure, but I think the mother had custody of the kids after the divorce.

I think I saw the kid at work at a work event or something when he was seven or eight, but don't remember anything unusual, just a normal little boy at the time.

Jim, that's

this

shooter's dad, is a dude named Ben and a very good coder.

I see people on X claiming he was a CIA analyst or CIA contractor.

I can assure you, this is complete nonsense.

I have some friends that are still in contact with him, but I haven't talked to any of them about the situation since it's so hot right now.

And of course, he wants me to keep him anonymous.

He's a knight.

I know who he is, and I believe his story to be true.

So, sorry to debunk that.

However, however, however, however,

the M5M cannot get past the trans part because, look,

there's patterns, there's patterns, but we don't know the motive.

We have no idea.

There's patterns, but we don't know the motive.

You have mass shooting investigations so often there is a pattern.

I think police are trying to get after that tonight.

You know, you see obviously some real clues here as to what a motive could be, but they're not saying formally what it is yet.

We don't have a motive at this time.

It's unclear what the motive was.

Again, there's just nothing specific in the evidence that's been recovered.

There's no information, nothing specific to identify a specific motive, but they'll be continuing to talk to people to see if there was a flag, if something may have popped up that they can look into.

There's no clear motive, and that's what we want to know.

Was this a revenge shooting?

Because there were prior affiliations to the school.

Is this notoriety?

The shooter identified, we are told, as female, legally changed their name from Robert to Robin.

There's no connection yet from that to the motive.

I don't believe that how the shooter identifies currently in this investigation right now is of significant importance.

The mayor also calling on people to, quote, stop villainizing the trans community after learning that the suspect who was born male identified as female.

Spoke about this so profoundly and powerfully.

I have heard about a whole lot of hate that's being directed at our trans community.

Anybody that is going to use this as an opportunity to villainize our trans community

to jump to conclusions about the shooter, right?

What his ideological views might have been, what his own personal situation was.

Did these people not watch the videos?

Did they not read anything that this kid was doing?

Oh, we don't know what the motive is, but for sure the motive isn't

just because you're trans doesn't mean you're a killer.

There's a pattern there,

and the pattern would have to be relatable to mental illness, to pharmaceutical drugs,

which we heard our very own

vaccine denier.

Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.

say many of them come with black box warnings that say you might have suicidal ideations or homicidal ideations.

seems like a possible thing we could look at, but no, don't you dare talk about our trans community.

Community.

It's not a community.

Where do they live?

Well, Minneapolis, that's true.

It's a trans community.

No, no, no, no, no.

Because in this case, when it comes to this trans person,

We no longer view this person as a she as he wanted to be identified.

No, no, no.

We're just going to view her as a him for convenience sake.

I don't know why this has been a trend lately when it comes to shooters, but immediately you'll see a bunch of accounts online argue that it's a trans problem, that the shooter was trans.

A lot of shootings happening all across the country from different demographics, but a lot of the mass shootings are carried out by young white men.

So you say demonic, and then they it's transgender maniac shoots up Catholic school.

You know, they could very very easily say time and time again,

straight white maniac shoots up Catholic school.

There's a lot of misinformation circulating right now.

This individual, as far as we know, did identify as transgender.

However, as we look at the spectrum of mass casualty events in our nation's history, there have been a range of motivations and a range of profiles that have been associated with mass casualty events.

You look at the shooting in Charleston at a historically black church in 2015 that was perpetrated by a white supremacist.

Let's just be very real here.

We have too many guns in America.

Yeah, all right.

So when

we do that, when it behooves the mainstream media, then the trans woman is a white man.

It's unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

Shocking.

Yeah, I know.

Very shocking, shocking.

And then there's gambling going on.

Here's the

Minnesota Acting Attorney General.

The shooter left behind hundreds of pages of writings.

Writings that describe the shooter's plan,

writings that describe the shooter's mental state,

and more than anything, writings that describe the shooter's hate.

Pure, indiscriminate hate.

The shooter expressed hate towards almost every group unmanageable.

The shooter expressed hate towards black black people.

The shooter expressed hate towards Mexican people.

The shooter expressed hate towards Christian people.

The shooter expressed hate towards Jewish people.

In short, the shooter appeared to hate all of us.

The shooter's heart was full of hate.

There appears to be only one group that the shooter didn't hate.

Oh,

I can't wait to hear what it was.

Just one group.

Only one group?

One group of people who the shooter admired.

The group were the school shooters and mass murderers that are notorious in this country.

The shooter idolized some of the most notorious school shooters and mass murderers in our country's history.

I won't name them, just like I won't name the shooter.

They don't deserve to have their names remembered.

That's what I mean.

It's It's like the whole rundown forgot to mention Andres Breivik, who was not American and who killed a bunch of kids for political reasons.

I think there was a more obvious,

I would say,

thing left out of his lists that was more important than anything, which was he hated this, he hated that.

He hated Trump.

It said very specifically, kill Trump.

Kill Trump, yes, you're right.

And that, because of that, leaving stuff like that out resulted in Rosie O'Donnell coming on her stupid thing saying the guy was MAGA.

Do you have a clip?

Now that you mentioned it, no, but I wasn't clipping for this guy because I thought it was old news.

We already covered, but I should have clipped it.

But that's what Rosie said.

Dawd's another MAGA guy killing people.

Which is, you know, but yeah, because you leave that one thing out.

Yeah.

And you could maybe think that.

Rosie O'Donnell.

Is she back on a show somewhere?

She has a show?

Yeah, her own.

She has her own posts on X.

Oh, that's her show, is it?

That's her show.

She's got the camera up her nose.

She looks like this.

That's not a very good show.

Hell baked over.

That's not a very good show.

She's got the camera up her nose.

That's not a show, man.

She's an influencer.

Well, on the legal front, we do have something changing.

The Rob Constitutional Lawyer, you know, I called him out on the last show, haven't heard from him.

I'm worried because there is work to be done, my friend.

Attorneys General of Virginia and North Carolina are part of a bipartisan coalition demanding big tech companies strengthen protections for minors exposed to AI chat bots.

They sent a letter warning companies will be held accountable for any harm for their AI products that they cause, including sexual conversations, discussions of violence, and deceptive interactions that lead to scams.

This comes as a California family assuing open AI, claiming Chat GPT helped their teenage son plan suicide.

This is what we need.

This is a direction I can agree with.

Hold them liable.

There's no way they can't be held liable for this, unless it's in the EULA, which I'm sure it is.

Well, even if the EULA cannot,

there's still issues that the EULA cannot protect no matter what it says.

Unless you're a pharmaceutical company with vaccines.

Well,

that wasn't part of a

EULA.

That was a federal,

that was a congressional act.

That was a law that was passed.

Who says that won't be passed for AI?

Could be.

I would surprise you.

Could be that could happen.

I wouldn't be surprised.

If it happened, I wouldn't be surprised.

If I recall in the big, beautiful bill, there's a provision in there that says states may not have any laws regarding artificial intelligence for the next 10 years,

which I find

not having any laws is one thing.

Suing over something like this is something else.

That's different.

Well, I mean, there is just everyone is up in arms about this AI stuff.

Because of its smartness, because of how incredibly quickly it's going to take away all of our jobs.

No,

it's the beautiful people who are up in arms.

Retailer J.

Crew faces some criticism now for what some are speculating are AI-generated images promoting their brand.

These photos look just like the J.

Crew ads of the past, but they may not be real.

The website Blackbird Spy Plane pointed out some glitches in the clothing and photo distortions.

In a statement released to the cut, J.

Crew said it is exploring some new forms of creative expression and experimenting with different art mediums.

Critics are concerned the AI models are just cutting out workers who would otherwise get paid.

Oh, no.

What will beautiful people do?

They're cutting out the workers.

The workers.

The models.

The beautiful men at J.

Crew.

What will they do?

AI is going to put them on the streets.

They'll have to be turning tricks now.

Yeah, they can go become plumbers.

Electricians.

Come on.

They'd have the right look.

And the girls can always find work, let's face it.

Whoa.

Hello.

According to.

By the way,

the Prime Minister, who was this?

This was

Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Christensen

admitted in an interview with the Swedish business paper Dagens Industrie

that he frequently uses AI tools such as ChatGPT and LeChat.

Where is LeChat?

I want LeChat

to seek second opinions on policy decisions.

Before proposing or enacting a new policy, Christensen asks LeChat questions like, what have others done?

Should we think the complete opposite?

Adding that the PM also uses AI platforms to conduct research and bounce ideas around.

Well, that sounds good.

Nothing.

I wonder if it's anything like these, the lawyers who use it and they come up with phony cases

don't exist.

Of course.

But it doesn't matter because this thing is just going to keep on going.

There's no AI winter coming.

Nope.

Bloomberg Surveillance Podcast says good times ahead.

Keith Terry, head of technology and communications at City Research, says,

First, AI analysts on Wall Street believes AI revenue will surge to $780 billion in 2030 from $43 billion

this year.

So from $43 billion to

almost $800 billion

in six years.

What do you think?

Possible?

Well, the problem is that it's

going to be a big one.

I don't know, maybe.

It'll cost $5 trillion to make it, but that may be a good thing.

Yeah, it would definitely cost.

Yeah,

they can't even get to the trillion.

Is this market underpriced?

Look, that's the way we look at it.

I mean, we are in the very early stages of this AI cycle.

A lot of things that sort of matter to driving growth are about to clear in growth's favor.

The bottlenecks that we've seen in capacity constraints, the

model development advances that we're seeing, particularly around agentic AI.

And then, of course, the biggest of those being what we think could be called AI squared, the idea that AI on its own can start programming AI.

Oh, that's what I'm looking for.

AI squared.

Notice also yesterday that

that's not going to happen.

No, that's what's coming.

It's going to program.

This would be like those boxing robots.

Rock'em sock'em robots?

No, the ones that the Chinese are having matches.

Haven't you seen these videos?

Yeah, we talked about it.

Here's the one we're talking about.

Yeah, the guy that.

I mean, you can kick that robot's ass in a second.

Like, boom.

These things just, they suck.

The idea that AI on its own can start programming AI.

I noticed also yesterday that an analyst from eMarketer said we have to see returns on these investments and soon.

And the threat is these big hyperscalers may pull back on the margin in terms of capex if they don't start to see returns soon on the applications, on the AI applications that they're powering.

What do you think about that?

Look, I don't think there's any chance of that, right?

Right, right.

I mean, we

go back a year ago, and you had the CEOs of Alphabet, Meta, Microsoft all get on their earnings calls and say some version of the risk of over-investing is far less than the risk of under-investing in this space.

And then we fast forward a year later, and they've all said, you know what?

Even though we believed that, we actually underinvested and capacity constraints are still there.

And so you don't see that kind of demand outstripping supply if the returns aren't there.

IDC has had one that said that

CIOs are getting 3.7x for every dollar they put into AI.

And the returns, and admittedly, they're early returns, but the early returns show that this stuff is working at the enterprise level.

Oh, it's working at the enterprise level, John.

It's all good.

The enterprise is into it.

The enterprise is being.

Wait a minute.

How are you getting 3.7 times per dollar?

So they're getting $3.70 for every dollar they invest?

Where's the evidence of this?

There's no evidence of it.

None.

This thing is a scam.

It's a scam.

I mean, it's great.

This

pattern matching is great.

It's great.

I love code.

I code in Python, and I figured it out.

You got to have three different.

I want the chat, but I use Grok.

I use Chat GPT.

I want to use the chat.

And you post.

You know, for a guy who thinks this is a scam and a dead end and a piece of crap,

you are all in.

Let me explain.

I am all in because

I know what this costs.

And while it's still cheap.

So you're all in because you're taking advantage.

You think it's like they're shipping a $5 bill for every hour you spend.

In other words,

for all practical purposes, they're sending you money the more you use it.

Correct.

I love that part.

Now, you really have to know what you're doing to get anything functional out of it.

But even in the past couple of days, the disc network disconnects on ChatGPT and Grok are very frequent.

And it just sits there and says, oh, the network is disconnected.

My internet didn't disconnect.

So I don't know what your disconnect is, but they throw up this disconnect.

Look,

I run web UI.

I can run these models at home.

Takes forever.

Takes forever.

You get the answers out of it, but it's

and it's just matching.

I mean, I'm asking things that people have programmed a million times over, and it sucked it all up into the internet and Python code.

Like, oh, here's the code.

That's how you do it.

This, someone, some other doofus did this.

It does that very well.

Now, it saves me the trip to Stack Overflow,

but not when I'm trying to run a model at home.

No, so I might as well run this really quick model while it's still costing me 20 bucks a month.

There's no way this condition can sustain itself.

No, there's no way.

And it's certainly not thinking.

Well, nobody ever said it was.

Oh, we're so close to super intelligence.

It'll be ChatGPT-6.

That'll be the model when it's so, we're so close to AGI.

ASI is next.

Oh, it's happening.

It's not.

But the chat bots, chatbots.

Oh, yeah.

That's the business right there.

Make those cheap and you're in.

You'll be sued, but make those cheap.

It'll be worth it.

Hopefully, you will be sued.

That'll change everything.

So, I got some international news, which we never play enough of on this show.

Oh, okay.

Or I got TikTok clips.

International news, please.

I'll take international news for 500, Alex.

Or Indonesia mess.

Oh, yeah.

Let me see.

Yes, I have heard about this.

A friend of mine is on his way to Indonesia, actually.

Protesters in Indonesia have stormed the homes of several politicians, including the country's finance minister, and looted luxury items.

There have been widespread demonstrations across the country after lawmakers increased their salaries despite a cost-of-living crisis.

Asodestra Ajangrastri reports from Jakarta.

This week is a fragile one for Indonesia.

What began as a protest against the additional $3,000 housing allowance for parliament members has now escalated into demonstrations against police brutality.

The unrest prompted President Prabo Osubianto to cancel a scheduled trip to China to personally monitor the situation.

With protests now entering nearly a week, many people describe the atmosphere in Jakarta and other cities as tense, fearing further clashes between police and the public.

Yeah, yeah.

So they're raiding the parliament members' houses and stealing their stuff.

Yeah.

That's how you do it, that's how you do it.

Teach them a lesson.

It gets people's attention.

Okay, now we got a Mexico mess.

Oh, man.

Another mess.

Thousands of people have held protests across Mexico to mark the International Day of the Victims of Enforced Disappearances.

Relatives and friends of missing people, as well as human rights activists, have marched through the streets of Mexico City, Guadalajara, Córdoba, and other cities calling for justice and government action.

More than 130,000 people are reported as missing in Mexico.

Esperanza Chavez has been searching for her brother brother Miguel for more than a decade.

It's remembering her family member,

whom we must remember every day.

But today is the most important one for those of us who have a missing loved one.

What I would ask of the government, and especially of President Schneebaum, is that they find them.

I have been searching for my brother since 2014.

Most of the disappearances are linked to the country's notorious drug cartels, which often target the young and vulnerable.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, what we also have coming up is

September 11th, we'll have another.

I'm sure everyone's already putting their packages together to traumatize the American people all over again,

which is actually, you know, that I got a note from a millennial mom, Boots on the Ground.

And

it was quite interesting because

she said i want to give you my my boots on the ground report as a millennial mom

and

and she

and

i've heard this before like we got screwed basically

you know we all saw 9-11 we got traumatized by it then uh

you know we had the financial crisis, the housing crisis.

We got psyopt into, you know, going into debt and getting worthless degrees.

We were told we'd make $150,000

and then COVID.

And I'm like, yeah.

Well, doesn't every generation have

its horrible?

I mean, I remember the Vietnam War.

I remember

my friend's brothers, older brothers, coming home in boxes.

I remember 14% interest rate.

I remember gas lines.

Cut to 20%.

Yes, 20%.

Can you imagine?

For a house, 20%.

Yeah.

I mean,

every generation goes through its incredible trauma.

You know, you also saw the rise of the internet, online porn.

Come on, come on now.

You can't complain about everything.

A lot of good things happened in your time, but it seems like there's a pity party going on for themselves.

Pity party.

Pity party, yeah.

And I mean, how about what think of now you're you're a little bit older than I am, so you do cross into true boomer territory.

I'm

a true boomer.

I'm not like on the cusp.

So what kind of, I mean, your parents went through World War II, not a little thing.

And the Depression.

The real depression, not the Great Recession, but the real depression.

Yeah, they were in the Depression and World War II.

So what else?

I mean, let's just line them up because I'm sorry.

That's life.

And somehow

it feels to me like the millennials are saying, Well, we got screwed, not like anybody else.

That's not true.

Oh,

your sympathy for this woman

has no bounds.

Well, on the other hand, you know, Matt from Martell Hardware.

Yeah.

Now, he's a millennial.

He says, our kid's an alpha, a gen alpha.

Yeah, he's got an alpha.

We got it all covered by the alphas, but the alphas are just little kids.

Yeah, but listen to this.

We enrolled our generation alpha son into an SAT prep course this summer.

The first thing he said to me when I picked him up after that first session was, Dad, I need a wristwatch.

How about that?

A real one?

A real one.

He said, Matt says, I ran upstairs, pulled

my old Victorinox Swiss Army watch out of a drawer, and my son is now wearing this reading clock happily.

It's good.

I think we helped out somehow.

I hope so.

Yeah.

The months of the year, turns out that's not just the U.S., that's also in the U.K.,

according to Baron of Milford in Staffordshire, England, Commodore of the No Agenda Navy, No Agenda Doctor of Education and Climate Change Science, graduate of the class of 2024.

So you know that guy's legit.

And I see

he was

teaching A-level accounting, 16 to 18-year-old students at a very good international school in Cambridge between 2019, 2024.

Knowing the months of the year in accounting is crucial.

for calculation,

deprecation,

I would think, accruals and prepayments, and is a skill that is tested often in exams from A-level to professional exams in bookkeeping, financial accounting, management accounting, financial management papers.

Students at the school struggled with calculating the number of months to use in an accounting operation and frequently got the answers wrong.

At first, I thought it was a language issue and my lack of direction as a relatively new teacher.

But as the years went by, it got worse and worse, and latterly students could not even tell you how many weeks there were in a year or how many days in a year.

I had to constantly drill them to get this right in an almost comical fashion, as I would with very young primary school students.

Fellow teachers of the subject told me that it was the same across the UK and state schools, which does not give me hope for the future of the profession that I've been a part of for 40 years.

Don't even know how many weeks there are in a year.

Wow.

It's just a number, 52, people.

52.

It's easy to remember.

You're a kid.

It's a number 52.

It's not hard.

But I guess it's like a dozen.

How many cards

in a deck of cards?

52.

That's right.

That's right.

Well, actually, there's usually a couple of jokers in there, too.

But remember the game, the 52 card pickup?

That was always a good one.

That was always a good one.

It wasn't a game.

No, it was not a game.

It was not a game.

Okay, last international clip.

You know, they talk about everyone, oh, let's free Palestine, Palestine, Palestine, Palestine.

Where in the world is the big, real problem?

That's the massive famine, murder, killings.

Oh, let me guess.

Let me guess.

Somewhere in Africa?

Yeah, Sudan.

The head of a paramilitary group in a civil war with Sudan's army has been sworn in as the head of a new parallel government, they said in a statement.

The parallel administration has been condemned by the U.S.

and others.

NBR's Emmanuel Akindawa reports the move pushes the country closer towards a formal partition after two years of a war.

Mohamed Hamdan Dagalov, the leader of the paramilitary rapid support forces, was sworn in as the head of a parallel government, the new parallel administration said in a statement.

The RSF leader, who has rarely been seen in Sudan since the war started, was sworn in in the Sudanese city of Niala, the statement said, and he leads a group that includes armed groups and allied civilian figures.

The announcement comes amid intense fighting in Sudan, which is suffering the world's largest humanitarian crisis and largest famine in decades.

The Sudanese army have largely taken control of northern, central, and eastern Sudan, while the RSF remains mostly in control of the western region of Darfur, where it's widely accused of committing another genocide against African ethnic groups.

Emmanuel Akimotu, NPR News, Lagos.

So, what weapons do you think are being used in the Sudan war?

I don't know.

I'm just gonna guess.

I'm just gonna guess it's US weapons.

Well, I think there are probably probably a lot of Russian weapons, too.

AK-47s are better than our stuff.

Well, they're certainly built to last.

Let me see.

Yeah, that's what

I can find out.

Or it's a more practical product.

Let me see.

What are they using?

Okay, AKs.

They are using a lot of Russian stuff.

Some Chinese stuff.

Hmm.

UAE.

The UAE makes stuff?

I guess.

Why not?

It's a good business.

Oh, interesting.

By the way, I want to mention something.

I can't find the note.

I was looking for it

so I can give the credit to the person.

But we finally had a baby named after the show.

No.

And you lost the note?

I'll get the note.

I'll read it in the next show.

What is the kid's name?

Mimi.

That's it?

Mimi?

Mimi.

They use the name Mimi.

They use Mimi's name instead of John Rijk.

Did you work my butt off for 18 years and they named the kid Mimi?

Yeah.

You did.

Well, now.

Okay.

I was waiting for like the second and third name, like Mimi, John, Mimi, Mimi, Mimi, Mimi, Mimi.

Oh, well.

Yeah, isn't that ironic?

Yeah.

The next kid will be named named Jay.

With that, I want to thank you for your courtesy.

In the morning to you, the man who put the C in the colored fruit loop, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr.

John C.

Dora.

Yeah, hello, and the morning, good morning to you, Mr.

Anne McCurry.

In the morning, Ship C Bus Graffie, and your subscriber, Dames and Nights out there.

In the morning to the trolls in the troll room, hello, trolls, snow coaching counting.

Not bad for Labor Day weekend, 1973.

Still a little on the low side, but not as low as I thought it would be.

It's pretty good.

Yeah, people are traveling.

Yes.

Although they many

less travelers than expected, I heard from AAA

somewhere.

Yeah.

Gasoline prices are down, so why travel?

Yeah, people are having staycations.

Staycations.

Yeah, the old staycation.

Yeah, and they've got low tea, so, you know, they go.

And they're turning out to be these tourist places.

There's nothing but complaining going on.

I haven't been to Vegas since COVID.

Oh, apparently no one has.

Well, they've got the prices jacked to the max.

The old Buck 99 steak breakfast is long gone.

Everything's like 50 bucks.

The buffet, all you can eat?

Yeah.

So everything's jacked up.

They've jacked up all the prices.

So I looked into it a little bit because I was listening to all the complaining going on.

And the whole town has been taken over by an investment company called Vici, V-I-C-I.

You can look it up.

And everything's been on, except for Wynn and maybe one other operation.

The entire city, every one of the casinos, including MGM and Caesars and everybody else, has been bought up by this one company, and everything's on a leaseback.

Vici Capital, Cleveland-based family office dedicated to generating sustainable wealth and preserving it for the future of themselves.

Our experience doesn't say that.

So are they that's private equity?

Private equity and they've bought up everything and it's all lease back, which I don't know about you, but every time I've seen lease back as examples of that, like in San Francisco, I think it was a couple of the fame, a couple of famous stores, Gumps, I think was one of them, very famous jewelry and

trinket shop in San Francisco for high-end goods.

They did one of these lease back deals.

They said, well, yeah, you can buy your company and

then you can lease it back.

It'll save you all this money, and you have this, you have this cash flow, and it's all a positive thing.

And you have money in the bank, and you have working capital, and we own the company now, but you get to lease it back, so you're still in business.

And then, when you go out of, and then what happens is that the lease-back company says, You know, we're going to raise your rates, oh, we're going to do this, or we're going to next thing you know, you're completely out of business.

I mean, this is dude.

Vegas is just headed for a complete meltdown disaster.

All the more reason not to go to Vegas.

Except for if there's something at the sphere, the sphere.

Got to go see the dead at the sphere, man.

You know, they have a permanent residency, it seems, at the sphere.

The dead?

Oh!

With John Mayer.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, the ladies love John Mayer at the sphere.

Well, you're going to have to take forever to pay that thing off.

The sphere?

That thing's making money.

And it costs a couple billion to build.

That thing's making money hand over foot.

I mean, people are, especially for the dead show, they're paying up to a thousand bucks.

Yeah, exactly.

I don't know if anyone realizes it, but Jerry Garcia is dead.

I know.

But John Mayer is there.

And all the ladies love John Mayer.

Anyway, the trolls are not in Vegas.

They're not in the sphere.

They're in the troll room.

And I used to say trollroom.io, but I got excoriated for it.

So I'll say noagenda stream.com, everybody.

You can just go to noagendastream.com.

Or you can listen on a modern podcast app to be found at

podcastapps.com.

And at podcastapps.com, you'll find these podcast apps.

Then, when you use them instead of a legacy app,

man,

when you subscribe to the night and day.

It is night and day.

I mean, you've got chapters and transcripts and

all kinds of goodies.

And a lot of these, if you're like, oh, wow, I really want to support the show, you can hit the boost button or you can hit

there's a PayPal button in them.

You just hit that and it goes right to the donation page.

So you don't have to close out your, you know, open your browser or do anything like that.

You know, where do I go?

No, you can go to noagendadonations.com.

You can just hit that button.

It takes you to knowagendadonations.com.

It's beautiful.

And when we release the bat signal, then automatically you get an alert on your phone.

You tap that, boom, you're listening to the show.

Bob's your uncle.

And when we release the show, within 90 seconds of release, you get the show.

So

I highly recommend you get one of these apps.

They are all of them free to use.

Some of them have premium features.

And I suggest you support these podcast app developers.

We get a lot of support from people in many different ways.

You heard several boots on the ground, some very detailed ones.

We have the best producers in the universe.

And you can help the show by telling someone about it, propagating the formula, as we call it.

You can organize a meetup.

There's many things you can do.

And we used to have artists who really worked very hard on creating artwork for the show.

Now we have prompt jockeys who are basically doing what anybody can do.

Although you still have to have a good idea.

It's not true.

What do you mean it's not true?

You have to know what you're doing.

That's what I said.

You have to know what you're doing.

I said, anybody can do it.

You have to know what you're doing.

Anyway, I was very discouraged by the art for 1794.

We titled it Heroin Hotties.

People found that very interesting.

Although some people did look at the art and go, ah, I can't wait to hear what you guys are talking about.

This was the clueless kids looking at the calendar.

Yeah, mixed up calendar.

Digital 2112 man.

Now, the problem I have.

No, it was Jeffrey Ray.

I thought it was 2112, man.

Was it Jeffrey Raya?

Did I get that wrong?

Oh, I'll have to change it.

I I have to change the credits.

I'm sorry.

You're right, it is Jeffrey Ray.

I'm sorry, Jeffrey.

I'll change that.

But everything is a cartoon now.

Everything's a cartoon.

And it all has too much orange in it.

It's not a very orangey piece.

It's got a lot of blue in it.

It's a cartoon.

Just another cartoon.

You don't hate cartoons.

You don't like it.

You don't like the.

I mean, I'd rather take the photo

realistic stuff, except like you get Scaramanga, who does great babes, but this, who cares?

It's just some babes.

It's just, that's not a no-agenda art.

It's just babes.

Okay.

Everything is either a cartoon or a drawing with orange.

It's just, it's model collapse is imminent.

Everything Jeffrey Rea does now has orange in it.

Everything Darren O'Neal does has orange in it.

This piece does not have that much orange in it.

You're complaining about.

Something that doesn't exist.

And there was a piece that you like.

Look, that no agenda says or it's orange.

The kid's shirt is orange.

It's just orange.

Yes, there's two things I liked.

We'll start by saying

the Joe Baba cracker barrel no agenda art, right idea, horrible execution.

You needed to do a lot more, and you could have won.

But the one we both liked a lot, and you chickened out on, I'm like, we should use this.

We should use this.

I didn't chicken out.

I was wisely determined.

I wisely vetoed it.

And we do have a veto on this show, on everything.

It was the Palestinian guy.

He's wearing a shirt.

Keep calm and blame the Jews.

I thought it was fantastic.

And it was done by our shapeshifting shekelmeister, Yar Moore.

Yeah, Yar Moore is Jewish, I believe.

No, he's donated.

Yeah, he's donated shekels.

Yes, and I thought that was hilarious.

And you're like, no, we can't do that, man.

No,

you didn't really push back on me too much i said i said we really should do this one and you're like no i like the kids i like the kids yeah you said you were going to make this argument knowing full well that you're you you vetoed it no oh oh okay so now we're not

of course i vetoed it because we're not using it and then

um

quarterite you also like the a gays that's what i'm saying quarterite had the right idea with the a gays but they weren't but they like two chicks in there what did you What are the chicks doing in there

with the handsome gay guys?

It was the right idea.

You had an idea.

And then yeah, we figured that you couldn't prompt the chicks away.

The chicks weren't

weren't promptable.

Hey, where is my

I need an A-team jingle for the A guys, A gays.

I mean, it's A gays.

It seems like such an obvious one.

If you're looking for something done in Washington, D.C.,

you need the A gays.

Come on.

Come on, jingle makers.

You guys used to be on the game, on the ball.

They've dropped it.

I don't know what happened.

Gripe, gripe, gripe.

Geez.

Well,

okay.

Gee, I'm really happy that our art is all generated by computers.

We have no more end of show mixes because everyone's just tired of it because it takes actual work, except for the people who send in five-minute songs.

Look, I made an end-of-show mix.

It's like, look, I'm a developer now.

Look at me.

Developers, developers, developers.

Exactly.

So five minutes.

That's true.

They can't seem to prompt it.

Hey, short, one-minute max.

Won't the prompt take that?

I don't get it.

No, I don't think so.

I think it's very hard to get.

It's like prompting out the women in the day gaze piece.

Yeah.

I mean, these

sumo and all suno, sumo, I I think it is, they're used to making pop songs.

You can't do something that it has never done.

Well, I've never done a pop song that's one minute long.

I can't do that.

Here's the structure.

I don't know how to do it.

That's exactly it.

They have a predisposed, they're predisposed towards a structure, and everything has to fit within the structure.

Yeah.

Until.

Yeah, it's like rector sets.

Yeah.

But eventually we'll have a new Sex Pistols.

You know, we'll have a new Laurie Anderson.

We'll we'll have a we'll have a print, something new will come along, it always does.

And then the AI will swallow that up, and then we'll have thousands of those songs.

I had Laurie Anderson at the house once.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Oh, Superman.

Oh, John.

Hello, I'm not.

It's like, hello, I'm not home right now.

I love that song.

It was eight minutes.

For those of you who never heard it, Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

so what was she doing at the house?

We had a party and Steve Beck, one of the local, or he was, I think he's in Japan now, a local developer.

Developer, developer, developer?

He's an inventor.

And it was his date.

Brought her over.

No.

Yeah.

How was she?

How was she?

Well, you look at her.

They come in and you look.

You have to stare and you go.

That's Lori Anderson.

Here we go.

Because she's very distinctive looking.

Oh, I didn't have the tempo right.

This is eight eight minutes and 30 seconds long.

Oh, Superman.

I love this track.

Oh, John.

Oh, John.

I remember the first time I heard that song on the radio, I was like, wow, what is that?

So different.

Anyway, I'm sure you were not a fan of her music.

She's a nice person.

There you go.

Not a fan of the music.

I mean, it was okay.

I mean, it's just like, you know, I'm not a fan of a lot of things.

We also, of course, have producers who understand.

Oh, man, did you see that guy who sent that note?

When I hit send, I already regretted hitting send.

Oh, what did you do?

No, the guy's like, no, I didn't.

The guy's like, I've been listening 10 years for free.

But I would consider donating

if you admitted that there are shapeshifters, that Q is real.

Stop rebranding the Great Awakening as the Great Reveal, which we haven't.

It's called the Season of Reveal.

And I never say it.

No.

No, it was only about me, obviously.

Yeah.

I'm the problem.

If you ask anybody about the show, I'm the problem.

Except for the fact that you're the one that produces the show.

Oh, no, no.

No way.

No, no.

People should realize that I've a couple of things I complain about.

I mean, I can complain about a lot of things, but one of my main complaints is that no one has recognized officially

the quality of the production of this show, which is all on Adam's shoulders because he is the CTO of this operation.

That sounds like a disease.

I'm the CTO of this operation.

I'm the CTO of the operation.

And he's responsible for the overall sound quality and the fact that the show, the way it goes out, and everything in between.

And he has never received anything for this effort.

And it irks me.

And I engineer it.

People often say, so does John have clips on his sides?

No.

Well,

no, I send the clips to Adam.

Yeah.

And I don't listen.

I cue the clips, but I don't

fly the clips.

Are you looking at each other?

Does he give you a finger sign to cue the clips?

No.

Do you have a light?

Does he press a button?

A light.

That's what I need.

Does he press a button and the light comes on?

No.

No.

No.

No,

we have a mechanism that we use, which is just a queuing system where I'll say something like, I've got this clip about Mexico.

Yeah, and then I'll chat it up and he'll go down the line and

make sure I didn't spell it Texaco.

Exactly.

I'd be like, I don't see anything under M.

Where is it?

Where is it?

And then you hear the every once in a while.

He says, I can't find the clip.

And he

yells at me.

Frustrated.

But there's always, it is my fault in these instances because I do a lot of typos on the list.

I've gotten used to them.

I know what to look for by now.

It's okay.

But the point is, is that this has never been rewarded.

No.

A little small trophy.

I don't think it doesn't bother me what.

Just send your cash.

I don't want a trophy.

Send your cash.

Send your cash.

I don't want no distinction.

That's probably true, but

anyway.

But, you know,

so we have a lot of producers who do understand that we

need money to keep alive, to stay alive, to pay bills.

And this is the only income we have.

And we appreciate that people have kept it going for so long.

And we'll see how much longer it goes.

And this is usually when people send me the note.

Well, you know, you've changed.

I don't know.

Have you changed in 18 years?

You haven't.

Everyone changes in 18 years, but to be honest about it,

since we started off fairly mature, we haven't changed that much.

No, it's always.

John is the same.

You've changed.

I don't see it.

And he's always been a Zionist shill.

This has been going on for a long time.

And you shouldn't make fun of the producers.

That's not right.

We pay your rent.

Well, that's actually a mistake.

You see,

this is a lack of understanding of the formula to say that.

Because producers like attention.

The artists like it more.

The artists are attention-driven.

And so berating them is actually

fulfills

some sort of idealism that they provide themselves.

They say, you know, everybody in the world hates the greatness of our art and the fact that we're artists.

And here's a good example.

Listen to these guys ragging on us.

And

I'll show them.

Yeah, but notice they're all gone.

Well, no, that is

the only thing that decided to become prompt jockeys.

There's not a single artist left.

They're all gone, ma'am.

They're all gone.

There's actually a drawing in one of these upcoming ones.

It's a pretty funny one, too.

No, it's be more like Scott Horton.

At least Dave Smith is consistent.

I'm a human being.

I'm very inconsistent.

That's how it works.

Yes.

He did 10 hours with

Lex Friedman.

People sent it to me.

You should watch this.

Oh, yeah.

That'll be the day.

You should watch this.

Oh, boy.

I watch a lot that people watch.

Yeah, you can watch that, and then you're going to be qualified for the COVID shot.

I'm ready.

Jack me up, baby.

We thank everybody $50 and above.

It's how value for value works.

We pioneered the concept, the term, and it now lives in many places.

And we're happy to see it expanding like that.

It is really, if you're doing a podcast, just ask the people who are listening to it to support you.

Particularly if you're doing a hyper-local podcast, I guarantee you, the people in your neighborhood, if you're delivering value, they will support you.

They will support you in many ways, time, talent, or treasure.

And then we have a special, just because it's kind of how Hollywood works, like if you if you support us with $200 or more for an episode, we've got to thank you, just not just thank you.

We're going to read your note.

Hopefully it's not too long.

We like short notes just to make it fair for everybody else.

And we'll give you a title, Associate Executive Producer of the Noah Jenna Show for that episode.

$300 or above, you become an executive producer.

And these credits are real credits, Hollywood-style credits.

You can use, not like AR style 15,

assault rifle style.

No, real credits.

You can use them anywhere credits are recognized, including imdb.com.

And we'll start off with our first

executive producer, Sir Scovey.

He's in Charlotte, North Carolina.

He comes in with the devil's number

666.66.

And he says,

Jingle, Bush, just send your cash.

ITM, John Nader, matching donation alert.

Here we go.

In the morning to Sir Cretschman of the Whitewater Valley in Richmond, Indiana, and to Joe Spry in Savannah, Georgia, for their 333.33 donations for $17.94.

Thank you both for your courage.

You remember this?

Our matching

match.

333.33 donations.

And he has a note here, fellow producers.

I'm only going to do so many of them.

You've got four left.

Yes, fellow producers, four more matching donations of 333.33 are available.

That's up to and including show 1800.

Producers curious about this matching donation offer, refer to the first donation segment for show 1793.

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Thank you, Duke of Piedmont.

This is highly appreciated.

I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.

Just send your cash.

Thank you very much.

That's, I think, a first true matching donation we've had, like, that actually came through immediately, I think.

Kimberly Hilledge.

Hillage, you think?

Lakewood, Washington, 550.

ITM, gentlemen, please accept this donation for Secretary General on behalf of my son, Commodore Sharkey.

This amount brings him to knighthood.

Please knight him Sir Sharkey, Secretary General of the Salish Sea.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Kim.

Got to love that.

Okay.

Thank you, Kim.

Sure and sweet.

Scott Rediker, Great Falls, Montana, 515.38, probably 500 with some fees baked in.

Thank you.

He says, thanks for the excellent work.

I'd like to be Secretary General of the Cascade County.

R2D2, Carmer, please.

I don't believe I'm a douche, but a washing never hurts.

You've been dedouched.

Says Scott Rediker from Great Falls, Montana.

You've got

Karma.

Sarcastic the Nomad in

Wyo missing.

I don't even know in Pennsylvania.

Wyo missing.

Wyo missing?

Wyo Wyo missing.

Why y'all missing?

Y'all missing out.

$500.

This donation takes me to the baronet status and secretary general.

I accept get Monation if the Peerage Committee allows.

Sure.

Join me in the meetup on September 3rd in Alabama.

Yes.

Sarcastic.

The Nomad.

No jingles, no karma.

Yeah, check it out at NoAgendaMeetups.com.

Carrie Konkle.

Carrie Konko.

Ah, she sent sent me a note.

Carrie did.

She said, How can I?

She says, I'm 63.

How can I listen to the show live?

I told her, noagendastream.com because that's what I've been told to do.

Arcadia, Wisconsin.

Yes, Carrie is from Arcadia, Wisconsin.

$500.

Arcadia.

What did I say?

I said Arcadia.

And then you said it right.

There's no reason for you to.

And then I corrected my correction of your correction of my correction.

Why are you even talking while I'm talking?

Because I'm just

feel like it.

First time donations.

You've been deduced.

No, I just got a flood advisory for Gillespie County.

Is that where you are?

I'm in Gillespie County, yeah.

But we're up high, so we should be okay.

But anyone who's in Gillespie County, pay attention to these warnings.

Thanks for bringing humor into my world twice a week.

Please send jobs karma for my daughter.

Thank you very much.

Well, of course.

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

You've got karma.

She only gets humor in her world twice a week.

That's it.

It's bleak out there, man.

Matt in Brighton, UK,

382.82.

And just since he's from the UK, I do have a bonus clip that we played during these donation segments.

A

bonus clip.

All right.

Bonus clip.

What is the bonus clip?

This is the

bonus.

This is the.

Which clip is this?

I'm looking at the UK.

onerous.

This is the.

I have a series of these clips.

This is the latest one.

This is onerous new UK laws.

UK, no ID, no groceries.

From September 12th, a shocking new supermarket rule comes into force.

Without a government-issued photo ID, you will not be allowed to enter any supermarket in the UK, even for basic essentials like bread or milk.

Officials claim it's to stop shoplifting and fraud, but critics say it will destroy daily life for millions.

This means teenagers, pensioners without passports and anyone who's simply forgotten their wallet could be turned away at the door.

Supermarkets will have staff at entrances checking IDs and shoppers say this feels like airport style security just to buy food.

Campaigners warn it's the start of a two-tier shopping system that could permanently change the way Britain shops and eats.

And here's the worst part.

Fail the ID check once, and you could be banned from that store for a month.

Many are now asking: is this really about safety or is it the beginning of a stricter control system quietly reshaping how ordinary people live, move, shop, budget, and survive in Britain today?

I have a question about this clip.

Are you sure this is true?

Because your last onerous UK clip turned out to be fake news, bro.

Ah.

Yeah.

About the cash, like that

people had to pay a thousand pounds.

There are some cash restrictions going on.

But I have the clip if you want to hear it.

Everyone was emailing me, of course, because somehow it's all my fault.

Yeah, well, you played it.

Well, I think you need

a Maya Culpa.

You got caught.

Okay, well, if your clip was bad, this could be bad, too.

This guy could be full of shit.

He may be just a bad actor.

Okay, well, and people are like, I'm very disappointed you didn't check it out before you just played it.

Just 10, check out everything.

These are just clips.

Okay, I'm sorry I played a bad clip.

Yeah, but it's entertaining.

It was bad.

Although I will say that

the truth of the cash restrictions is that the UK banks could report you under suspicious activity report if you withdraw too much cash?

That part, so I give it a

half a Pinocchio.

So Matt in Brighton gives us

382.82 and writes, ITM, John and Adam, started listening in late 2007.

And I went back and listened from episode one.

Oh, man, you torture yourself.

You have kept me de-woked

for nearly the last two decades.

This donation completes my knighthood.

I pay for this with some of my gains from

an investment in meta based on John Sage advice in episode 1484.

That's where I won the bet.

I'm glad he didn't listen to me.

This donation would not be happening if he had listened to me.

Since then, the stock has rallied 190%.

Nice.

To the roundtable, I would like to bring, to have bong hits and a double IPA.

There you go.

All right.

So he's getting knighted.

And he's from the UK.

So he has all those gains from Meta, but he can't withdraw it.

Matthew Montgomery is in Arvada.

Arvada, Arvada, Colorado.

Arvada, Arvada.

It's Arvada, I think.

333.

Our big dumb mouth.

Gurkha, Gurkha, Gurkha.

They're just Durka, Durka, Muhammad Jihad.

Durka, Durka Durka Durka.

I know what you meant.

I got you covered.

Dame Astrid.

Hey!

She's in Tokyo.

She's the Duchess.

The Grand Duchess.

Also, a note came from a combination here.

It looks like Sir Mark is involved.

Happy birthday, Adam.

$261.

Just following up on Dame

Astrid's note and donations.

Here's a photographic meet-up report from the Idol Beer Bar

Clybloom.

Cyblum.

Where we welcomed Sebastian of the Gitmo Lowlands.

We were joined by Abhe,

Harold, and Brandon, plus more idiots than you could possibly count.

Idols.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Idols.

Idols.

Don't say that about our meet-up in Texas.

I've got my blurred vision.

The beers were delicious, and the girls especially enjoyed sampling the Stroopwafel that Sebastian had imported, especially for the evening.

Nice.

I can just see those Japanese girls going,

I suspect that John,

upon seeing the bar and photos, may finally be tipped over the edge to visit Tokyo.

I've been there.

So I have visited, but not you guys.

It's still ridiculously hot here, so we'll raise a glass of hop idol and fat tug in your honor.

Fat tug?

No, that doesn't sound right.

As we celebrate your birthday, thank you for your courage, Sir Mark.

Fat Tug.

That's a great name for a beer.

Oh, wow.

I get the long one here.

Eric Studeman, Seneca, Illinois, 250, Associate Executive Producer.

Dear Mr.

Curry, I hope this message finds you well.

My name is Aaron Studeman, and my husband and I are big fans of yours.

Over the past three years, we've revitalized a historic lumberyard building in Seneca, Illinois.

Within this space, now called the Lumber Yard, nicely named.

we've created a unique coffee shop, retail store, nine professional offices, an art gallery, and community gathering spaces, including our own farmer's market.

Wow.

I want to visit that.

Our mission is to spark creativity and connection in a rural town that has so much untapped potential.

One of the opportunities we're exploring is starting a podcast here at the Lumberyard.

As the pod father, and someone who has shaped the medium from its earliest days, your insight would mean the world to us.

Specifically, we'd love your perspective on Bullet Point 1.

What makes a podcast born in a small rural community stand out?

Answer, make it about your community.

Read notes from your community.

Have your community send in stuff.

That's how you do it.

Don't try to be Joe Rogan.

Be about your community.

Bullet point two: How best to structure and launch so it uplifts both the voices of our town and listeners beyond it?

Focus on your town

and launch and tell everybody about it and have those people tell people.

And if listeners beyond hear it, then that's great.

But focus on your town.

Three, pitfalls we should avoid as first-time podcasters building something with something with local impact.

Okay, for every podcast of the golden rules.

One, how long should your podcast be?

Until you find yourself boring, stop at that moment.

Second golden rule, no matter the frequency you release, make it on the same day around the same time, whether it's weekly, twice a week, once a month, the same day, the same time.

If you don't, people who build their lives around your podcast will miss it, will go look for something else, and they may never come back.

Golden rule number three, write a newsletter, no matter how short, to tell people that a new episode is dropping the next day.

You can also use this to shill for donations.

Add a sad puppy from time to time.

Those are my three golden rules.

We greatly evaluate your time and wisdom.

We are mailing a check today for $250 as a gesture of thanks for reading and considering our request.

We listened to your February podcast with Joe Rogan.

We believe we are vessels for change in our community, and your thoughts are appreciated as we explore the best way to get started in bringing a podcast opportunity to our rural community.

Thank you for all you've done to make podcasting what it is today.

Your vision continues to inspire those of us who believe in the power of voices and stories to connect communities everywhere.

Yes, Yes, and I wrote a hyper-local podcast primer, as John would say, on Substack.

I think it's Adam C1999 Substack.

And thank you, Aaron, for your support and for your note.

And when you have the podcast up and running, send me a link and I'll promote it.

That's how easy it is.

In a nutshell.

What I meant by that was nobody ever asks Adam for his advice.

That's right.

But

anyone can do it.

We don't have to do it on the show.

You can call him at home.

Here's my number: 650.

Rita

Stekic.

Stekic, Stekic, 23185.

Stekic, Stechic.

Not sure how to pronounce it.

But she did send a sheet in like a month ago that Jay carefully put aside.

And we don't encourage this.

No, you got lucky.

She got lucky, but here she is.

And she wrote this handwritten note.

And And I have to,

I can do it.

I can do it.

I'm glad.

Hi, John and Adam.

My name is Rita.

Rhymes with

message.

Okay.

Stekage.

From Ogden, Dunes, Indiana,

on the shore of Lake Michigan.

The donation is dedicated to my son Tom, who lives, who is

who something,

who turns 40 on August 31st.

Ah, ah, it's a surprise for Tom.

Hey, Tom, how are you doing?

That's Tom.

Now I guess that's the amount is $231.85.

Tom introduced me to your show.

We enjoyed dissecting your

discussions since this is a first donation that dedouching is in order.

You've been dedouched.

Please, this is a Switcheroo.

Put the donation under his name is Switcheroo Tom.

Tom.

He's a busy guy as a financial analyst, a financial planner,

something, a volunteer fireman, EMT, and a search and rescue guy.

So maybe we got ants jobs and jobs jingle would be great.

We got ants, jobs, jobs.

Okay.

Please add his name to the birthday list.

Should be on there, I think,

since this is the whole thing.

In the future, I plan to donate using the donation button on your site.

I hope this will save you more money.

Yes.

Actually, checks is the best.

Checks is the best.

Yes.

Yeah.

Box 339, El Cerrito, California.

No agenda show.

Adam's European knowledge and John's boomer perspective and tips are appreciated.

Keep deconstructing the news for at least four more years.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely, Rita, P.S.

P.D., please read on August 31st.

And that's what you got.

Yeah, we did it.

All right, Rita, and we'll make sure the switcheroo is in for Tom.

Here's your ants, as requested.

I got ants.

I got ants.

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

You've got karma.

Wow.

Really coming down here right now.

Sean Holman is in Noblesville, Indiana, 219-11, and he says, God's peace and blessings to all.

Saint Maria Goretti, pray for us.

All right.

Thank you.

Hello, and somebody's hijacked Linda Lou Patkins account from Lakewood, Colorado, to the city.

Oh my,

what is this new copy we have?

I don't know.

Jobs Carmer, while listening to the greatest podcast in the universe, it shows discerning taste and superior intellect.

It's really only appropriate to put your producer credit on resumes.

Oh, this is because you asked for this.

Targeting media, production, entertainment, and of course, podcasting.

As your SME on resumes, it's important that you have compelling messaging that showcases skills and experience that are most relevant to your target audience.

Also, there's a limited real estate on a resume, but it's nice to have it on LinkedIn.

For more subject matter expertise, go to imagemakersinc.com.

That's ImageMakers Inc.

with a K.

And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs, and writer of winning resumes, Best Linda.

By the way, I've been reliably informed that SME is pronounced SME for some reason.

Even though it's subject matter expert and it's an acronym, I've been told it's pronounced SME.

So if you want to.

People say SME, I think somebody's putting you on.

Maybe.

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

You've got time.

All right.

Thank you very much to these executive executive and associate executive producers.

As always,

these are real.

These are very real credits.

This is just like Hollywood.

You can put it anywhere.

The credits are recognized.

It is good on your LinkedIn.

It is good on your resume.

It's a SME.

Yeah, I'm a subject matter expert in deconstruction from the No Agenda Show.

I help produce it, executive producer or associate executive producer.

Of course, you can always put it on your IMDb profile.

Wait, you don't have an IMDb.com account?

Well, you do now because it is official.

You can use it.

And we thank these executive and associate executive producers.

Remember us at NoAgenda Donation.com.

We hit people in the mouth.

What's this

friendship

thing you had?

I always look, whenever you have a sequence of clips, I always want to make sure we get to it because that means you put some work into it.

Well, I clipped it.

And you cut it.

You clipped and cut.

I clipped and cut.

Yeah, you have to cut.

This is an interesting thing about friendships.

This was a presentation done on NPR about keeping friends, having friends.

And it was so skewed toward the female side of the universe.

They had nobody that knew what they were talking about.

It was a pathetic, interesting, but pathetic presentation that I couldn't help but clip.

The story that always comes up is about the serial tricks.

This morning, a big announcement.

I'm sorry, that's food dies for some reason.

Nice dry.

By the way, that is so well-timed.

Don't say anything.

I'll cut it out.

No one will ever notice the difference.

Why do some friendships survive for decades while others fade away?

NPR Life hit coast Marielle Seguera has tips on how to maintain long-lasting friendships even in the busy season of your life.

Here's a common scenario.

You've got this long-standing friend who never seems to make an effort to see you.

You love them, but you're getting frustrated.

This can happen, especially if you live far away from each other or you have a lot of responsibilities.

Nina Badzen, who hosts a podcast about friendship called Dear Nina, Conversations About Friendship, says friendships do take effort, but not everyone shows it in the same way.

I really believe that we just need to redefine what effort looks like because we all have very different skill sets.

And even with an old friend that we know very well, it's still, we're all human and it's still hard not to expect other people to do friendship exactly the way we do or exactly the way it was always done between you and this friend.

She says, if you find yourself getting frustrated with a friend for this reason, consider the ways they do put in effort, how they always remember your birthday or send you a text on the day of an important doctor appointment or FaceTime you randomly to check in.

Also, she says, consider talking to the friend about how you feel.

You could say something like, look, I love the time we spend together.

Oh, my goodness.

We need instructions on how to be friends now.

This is because these people, these liberals, libjos that work at NPR, have lost most of their friends.

Oh, that's it.

They had a meeting like, I'm so lonely.

Let's do a segment segment about that.

But yeah, but I don't want it to be about me being lonely.

Let's talk about friendship.

But no, who, have you ever

sent anyone a cute little note on the day of their doctor's appointment?

Yes.

Oh, really?

Not a cute little note.

I might send a text message to someone who has some kind of issue and they have a doctor's appointment.

And I will lift them up by saying, hey, man, I'm thinking of you.

I'm praying for you.

Yes, I do that regularly.

Not even friends, by the way.

Just people who are.

Or you just do it as some sort of routine.

That's not a routine.

It's when

I genuinely.

Have you done this before you found Christ?

No.

No.

No.

It's the genesis.

Okay, so this is religious.

It's not religious.

This is part of

a new schema.

So you didn't normally do this because I don't know anybody who does this.

I know a lot of people who do it.

Yeah, they're all in that church.

Yeah, that's right.

That's right.

How horrible.

I would find, well, it's not that.

I would find it offensive that people were spying on me knowing I was going to the doctor.

No, no, it's only if they told me like, hey, man, I got this procedure coming up.

Like Mike.

Mike is 81.

Mike is such a good guy.

His eyes are all shot.

You know, he's like, he's going for an operation.

His eyes were shut for three days.

So I sent him a note before, and I sent him a note after.

My other buddy, Brent, he went to get his hair transplanted or something.

So, you know, and it's I hope you get good luck with your hair transplanted.

No, I would think that was an insulting note.

I insulted him once it was done because they had to shave off part of his hair.

So, of course.

And, you know, then he's like, stop making me laugh.

It hurts.

My scalp hurts when I laugh.

Yeah.

Yes, I do that.

Yes, I do.

Okay.

Sorry, sorry to burst your bubble about me.

And by the way, I think I've also checked in on you

when you had your cataract cataract procedure.

No, you didn't.

Well, I hadn't found Jesus, but I will next time.

For the next important procedure you have, I'll send you a nice.

I would refuse to broadcast to everybody I know a procedure.

Say I was having

something that had to be done.

I wouldn't do that.

I had a tooth removed recently.

Oh, if I had known, I would have said, hey, man, I'm not going to do that.

Well, I wouldn't want that kind of thing.

This is the kind of annoying thing that you've developed, these these bad habits.

Onward to part two.

And I don't mind that I make a lot of the plans, but I would like to know that you really want these invitations.

And so every so often, if you could initiate one.

And it gives a friend the opportunity to say, oh, I'm so glad you said something.

I love that you reach out first because I just can't get myself together to even see on my calendar when I would have a date opening.

A conversation can happen then, and you can't have a conversation if you don't bring it up.

In general, Badzen finds that the friendships that last share two qualities.

One is people don't keep score, or they might keep score, but they check themselves on that.

The other quality is that the friends give each other the benefit of the doubt.

Like they assume the best of their friends.

Here's what that means.

If a friend forgets to text you or they disappear for a spell, remember they probably have a lot of other stuff going on.

A lapsing connection doesn't necessarily mean your friendship is over or that they don't care about you.

And if they do something something that hurts you, understand they probably didn't intend to and talk with them about it when you're ready.

There is a quote I love by a former guest of mine, Ruhi Covell is her name.

And she's an educator, she's a relationship coach.

And she said, There are people who never disappoint us, and those people are called acquaintances.

Yeah, see, I think you're barking up the wrong tree here, man.

Like, there are some people, few, but who I text, we text something every morning.

And the other day,

I didn't text back because I got busy.

And then my friend texted me and said, Hey, brother, I'm just checking in because you know, I haven't heard from you.

Just want to make sure you're okay.

I'm like, Oh, yeah, no, I forgot.

And sorry, and thanks for checking in on me.

And you know, and I've told you about the poop app.

Did I tell you about the poop app?

No, but I'm about to hear about it.

Yeah, so when I'm a poop app, yes.

So

when I was visiting Christina last

April, I think it was, she said, dad, dad, dad, you got to join our league.

I said, what is this?

So this is an app called Poop Map.

And every single time you poop,

you hit the button, you drop a poop, and then you make up some funny, some funny thing.

Like, you know,

well, let me read.

Christina just released some underwear rainbows.

Demure manure took a load off their mind.

Just made a grand entrance to the septic soiree.

And this is like eight of her friends, and they let me join.

And if I forget to register my poop, you know, they check in with me.

Hey, are you okay?

You haven't pooped in the last three days.

Yeah, this is the modern friendship, man.

This is how it goes.

You should get with it.

You want to join our league?

No.

Okay.

Wow.

I think we found out a little bit too much.

It's great.

Hey,

it's a great way to do it.

Yeah, it's great.

I just pooped.

Hey, guess what?

It's like what, a bunch of three-year-olds, hey, daddy, I pooped in my pants.

No, because we no, because we have really the trick is

because of the one-liners.

Yeah, you got to do the one-liners.

Yeah, exactly.

Yes.

Hey, at least I know my kid is alive.

It's good.

Part three.

Badzen says any long-standing friendships are going to require forgiveness and humility.

It really requires humility to assume the best because

what that means, assuming the best means, I don't know the whole story, so I'm going to assume there's some information I don't have.

Okay, one more tip from Badzen.

One of the greatest gifts you can give to a long-standing friend is allowing them to change.

Most of us want to be able to develop and change our mind about things.

There's not a lot of hope in the world if we have to keep all the same opinions and interests that we had from the time we were 10 years old, 15, even 20s, even 30s.

It's really important to give your friends space to try different ways of living.

As you and your friends navigate romantic partnerships, career changes, illnesses, financial ups and downs, births and deaths, just be there.

Love them.

Let them be who they are and who they're becoming.

This was a total waste of air time, that's for sure.

Like, who needs this?

You're either friends or you're not friends.

There are a bunch of people that have lost a lot of friends to Republicanism.

And now they're trying to say, it's okay if they become a Republican.

Maybe you can, you know, still say hello.

Oh, bull crap.

They're not going to do that.

You know that that's not true.

No, but this is wishful thinking.

This is the kind of thing you get on NPR now.

These people are pathetic.

Yes.

All right.

And that was the point of it.

Since it is a

although we did find out more than we needed to know.

We went from Jesus to the poop map.

I don't know, man.

This is what a show.

What a show, ladies and gentlemen.

So

you may not play the TikTok three-way girl.

That's a disgusting clip.

You may play any of the other two.

Oh, you saw that one.

Yeah, I saw that one.

It's dumb.

It's insultingly dumb.

Well, I do have a screwball one.

Yeah.

By a comedy.

The guy's, it's not really a comedian, but he's like, this is the bonus clip that you should have gotten.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I did not know that.

You didn't text me.

You didn't.

Oh, no, you're right.

That was my, you're right because I haven't sent a bonus clip in for so long, I forgot I was supposed to text you.

You didn't send me a note like a good friend would do.

Yeah.

Hey, I've got a bonus clip.

How's your poop coming?

I got a bonus clip.

I got a bonus clip for you.

So

you can retrieve it while I explain this clip.

You explain it.

So this guy is a

I

can't call him a comic, but he's an absurdist.

And he uses the concept of reductio ad absurdum to make points.

And that's a concept that you reduce things to the essence

to the point that it's absolutely absurd.

And he does this, and his main thing is to go after transgenders,

the whole idea of you're a woman if you say you're a woman,

identifiers.

And so, this is one of his better pieces.

He's identified as Taylor Swift for a while, but now this is the one where he's identifying.

And this is the guy's name is Josh Selter.

And he identified

and you have it.

Yes, I have it.

I was ready to fire it.

And he said, and he's

identifies in this case, and he's got all the right memes in here, including the shaking hands.

He identifies as an American Indian.

I am literally shaking right now.

I went to a casino for the first time in my life.

And while I was there, I tried the buffet and their wild-caught bison.

As I was driving home, my stomach started going crazy, so I stopped at the reservation on the side of the road and ran into the management office.

Some lady comes out from behind a desk and she's like, Can I help you, sir?

And I said, Yeah, I need to use the bathroom.

And she's like, Are you part of the tribe here?

And I explained to her, I was assigned the wrong origin at birth, but I identify as Native American and I go by walking tomahawk.

And she was like, Wait, so you're a white guy?

And I said, Excuse me, bigot?

Don't deadfeather me.

And it's like,

What is wrong with these transphobes that they like go out of their way to misindigenate us?

It's like, what's so hard to understand that trans Indigenous Native Americans are Indigenous Native Americans?

Like, why do I even have to explain this in 2025 to people?

So now I don't have anywhere to use a bathroom because I'm trans.

And it's like,

now I'm suffering in my car

and I have no bathroom that I can use that matches my national origin because

people want to be bigots and mean transphobes.

Just be nice, people.

Just be nice.

What's the sound effect?

Well, it's a fort sound, but he's got one of those little devices.

It's a handheld one.

He's got it off to the you can't see it, but he's I know he's holding it to the right.

And it just doesn't sound good.

So he could have done a better job.

But I like the I like the transindigenate or whatever that was.

Well, what he has down, and this is a pattern I've noticed.

Well, this is Lily, this woman Lily, who's on a guy, Garado, if you I the guy could be a complete put-on.

He's the one who's always bitching and moaning.

Looks like a dude with long hair and lipstick.

And he's always bitching and moaning on TikTok for being misgendered, and he's always shaking, and it's the same, and he sounds just like him.

And it's a pattern, yeah.

Well, the pattern, see, if you want to get likes and you want to get lots of comments, you have to talk about how sad you are.

This is, I mean, sometimes it's about how mad you are.

These are a lot of the clips you have, but social media, the success to social media is to view it as a self-pity promotion machine.

This is what gets you likes.

If you go on and say, hey, I'm happy today, everything's great.

You get crickets.

People are.

This is an interesting observation you're making here.

This is possible.

The self-pity promotion machine.

Everybody just wants to, oh, oh, it's okay.

You go, girl, you'll be okay.

praying for you thoughts and prayers everything's great it the it'll the sun will come out tomorrow that and that's that's why people do it.

And this, I think, is a big reason why people who are often on social media are perpetually sad.

Because they're just dealing with sadness all day long.

Because they get more attention being sad.

Exactly.

So it's encouraging.

Yes, sadness.

This approach to life.

Yes.

And then you get a chat bot, and the chat bot will make you even sadder.

I'm not going to argue against that so far.

Because you're right.

Most of my clips are something else.

In fact, uh i have a couple more but i would like to play this one this is the um

uh

this would be the uh

the insuperior

uh gal bitching about men being a bunch of stiffs men don't have rights i think that men are just in superior to women.

I think no matter what, a powerful man will simp to a woman, therefore a woman in every circumstance in life is superior to a man.

Any man, if you make more money than me, if you're stronger than me and you're taller than me, you'll still simp for me every single time.

So I'm still superior.

Yeah, you should have stopped with the trans feather guy.

This is ridiculous.

If you can't see her, it's no good.

Oh, you can't see her anyway.

No, it's just good.

The key is her being such a superior being and using the word insuperior.

You're falling for clickbait, man.

This is, this is just, this is not a real person.

I'm glad you, that leads me to the last clip I'm going to play.

No, listen to this.

This is the new, you talk about marketing pharmaceuticals and all the rest of it through these people and clickbait.

This is, I think, an advertising campaign for chilies.

I did some research on the new, they have a new campaign, a new campaign manager, a new advertising agency, a new marketing director.

And this particular TikTok complaint,

which kind of looks legit.

I think a lot of people believe it, I think is exactly what you're talking about.

This is taken to a level that is beyond.

This is something that you have to admire.

This is the woman going to leave the country.

I think I have to get out of America.

I just saw a commercial that was my breaking point.

It's a Chili's commercial.

It's not even a political ad.

It's just a Chili's commercial.

And I'm losing my mind.

I think I have to leave.

I don't think I can be a part of this world and this culture.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

This is because of a Chili's ad.

Oh, please.

This is

fake.

I think I have to leave this.

This is designed.

I don't know why these ad, some of these clips clip off on TikTok.

This is designed to make you think that she's actually upset by a Chili's ad and you're going to be on the lookout for this.

So what ad could be offensive?

I'm telling you, this is a marketing strategy.

It's dynamite.

I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.

Imagine all the people who could do this.

Oh yeah, that'd be fabulous.

Well, I personally am very happy that we don't have to deal with any of that nonsense and have meetings about that.

Oh, my goodness, can you imagine?

No.

Instead, we just ask you to support us with your hard-earned cash to keep us going on this show and at least complete 18 years.

We can go another four, only, only if you want it.

And John will thank the rest of our supporters in Value for Value Land, $50 and above, right now.

Starting with Anonymous in Staten Island, 161.

And it's a happy birthday, Adam.

$161.

Thank you very much.

Randy O'Rourke in Bradford, Pennsylvania, 105.35.

And that's a happy birthday.

Oh, so nice.

Kevin McLaughlin,

8008.

That's a happy birthday, Adam.

Thank you.

No,

that's his boob donation.

He comes in later with a birthday donation.

Oh, he does.

Oh, what a nice guy.

He's awesome.

Commodore

Dubs, KM7BPI, BP, BPI.

Is that right?

KM7BPI 73s.

Springfield,

Oregon.

7361.

This is a ham grip donation.

Or ham Gigi.

I'm sorry.

Ham grip.

Oh, wait.

Hold on.

Okay.

MGG.

Oh, good lord.

There we go.

Today is his mom's birthday.

Okay, we got her on the birthday list.

She's on the birthday list.

Nice.

Commodore Duke, KM78.

She's on the bottom.

B-P-H.

She's got a break on the list.

Okay, it's BPH, not I.

B-P-H.

Because it's my spreadsheet, they cut off the H, make it look like an I.

Franklin

Skepton in Jr.

in Pensburg, Pennsylvania, 7313.

That's a happy birthday.

Janet Allgood in Watkins, what Watkinsville, Georgia, 70 with a note, which I don't have.

I don't have the note either from Janet.

I don't know what happened.

But thanks, Janet.

And then we have Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana, 6502, which is the chip donation.

Now, the rest of these are birthday donations, and I'm going to read them all.

There's a 6430s.

These are the ones with the extra money added.

Thank you.

And then I'm going to go right through the 61s.

And all these are birthday donations for Adam, starting with

Mark Cram in Durham, North Carolina, who does need a dedouching.

You've been dedouched.

Sean Levanton in Oxford, Ohio.

Dirty Jersey Whore, your buddy.

You all be good.

And he is in

Dirty Jersey Whore.

He's not in Jersey at all, but he's in Gladewater, Texas.

He's a Texan.

Joshua Schmidt in Norwood, Young.

Norwood Young, Minnesota.

These are all happy birthdays.

Mickey Keck in Las Wages, Nevada, and he's got a birthday for Keck Dame

also on your, it's the same as you.

Tom Jandron in Clancy, Montana.

Angela Wang in Whittier.

Kevin McLaughlin, there he is.

I told you.

Yep.

He came in with a second donation, $64.30 for Adam's birthday.

John Ferretti, Erie, Pennsylvania.

Sir Rob in Pinckney, Michigan.

And he also has a birthday for for himself.

He's got a lot of birthdays today, I can guarantee you.

December 3rd.

Michael Matalone in Appleton, Wisconsin.

Russ Curry in St.

Cloud, Florida.

Sir Tiggermax in Critaline.

Sander von

Tahurlahar.

Somla von at Hillenhar.

Vonet Hillenhar.

Arnheim.

Arnhem.

Is it Arnhem?

Yeah, right.

Bridge Too Far.

Arnhem.

Commodore Crummie.

Oh, Commodore Crummy.

He's in El Cajon.

David Keys in Riverside, California.

Christina Henry in Deputy Indiana.

Dame Christina Pearl and Sir Robert Charles.

You know, Dame Christina, of course, our Southwest flight attendant.

Ryan Tepperton in Burnsville, Minnesota.

Sir Brent in Castle Rock,

Colorado.

Dame Rita in Sparks.

She came in.

She'd be at the top of the list usually, but she's coming in with a 61 instead.

We lost money on that.

Ryla Davis, so you cost us money.

We lost money on the deal.

We lost money on that one.

Ryle Davis in Gloversville, New York.

And that concludes our list of happy well-wishers.

Now we go to James Jamie Buell in Vista, Colorado with 6006,

along with Les Tarkowski and Kingman with 6006.

Sarah McMillan in Sydney, Montana, 57.98.

Lisa Mikalski in Sarasota, Florida, 52.52.

She makes a note here, but the Bill Gates Butter episode was one of the funniest I've heard in a while.

Bill Gates Butter.

Yep.

Bobby Bush.

Bobby Bow.

Vaseline.

Vaseline is what you said.

That was great.

That was funny.

Bobby Bow in Bluegrass, Iowa.

Yes, 50.

Oh, now we're at the $50 donor.

So let's just go through them one after the other.

Leif Thompson in Meridian, Idaho.

Nathan Noel in Nederland, Texas.

Nederland?

Nederland, yeah.

Okay.

Clarence Clark in Jacksonville Beach.

Terence Clark.

What did I say?

Clarence.

Oh, hi, Clarence.

Joshua Johnson in Omaha, Nebraska.

Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado.

Scott McCarty in Lodi.

Jordan Tierney in Oral, South Dakota.

And parts unknown is Sir Mix.

Well, actually, he's

a Bitcoin donation.

It's a Bitcoin donation of a whole dollar, $50.

Okay.

He says, here's some sats for when your stable coins get turned off.

One of these days, I plan on doing a tour of America and visiting every single one of these places.

I mean, who wouldn't want to go to Bluegrass, Iowa?

Who wouldn't want to go to Sydney, Montana?

Who wouldn't want to go to Curdeline or Pickney, Michigan?

Come on, man.

We should do that.

We should do a tour.

You and me, baby.

Motorcycle.

I've already been to Curdeline.

A motorcycle with a side car.

Yeah, that looks about right.

We'd be a hoot.

Thank you to these producers.

We really appreciate that.

There's no $49.99s today, but no one under 50 is ever mentioned for reasons of anonymity.

Of course, a lot of people on those sustaining

donations, a lot of 33.33s is highly appreciated.

You can go to noagendedonations.com and support us with any amount, anytime you want.

Anytime you feel you got value from the show, just send it back.

Noagendedonations.com.

Thank you very much.

And also, thanks once again to our executive and associate executive producers, noagendadonations.com.

It's a birthday birthday

on No Agenda.

And we kick it off with Sir Scott Scott the Jew who says, happy birthday to Marty Moscovitz.

He turned 73

on the 29th.

Rita

Stekic, her son Tom, he turned 40, turns 40 today.

Happy birthday, Tom.

Sir Brent turns 52 on my birthday, September 3rd.

Commodore Doves wishes his mom, Leslie Walker, a happy one.

Mickey Keck, happy birthday to Joyce Keck, dame of the OTR.

Sir Rob of Pickney is celebrating his birthday.

And Dame Janet and Sir Island Dogs, happy birthday to Baroness Cece from Greensboro, Georgia.

She is turning 70 years old.

And we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

You don't want to be a douchebag.

Yes, we have an entire peerage ladder here.

Once you're a knight or a dame, you can keep climbing the ladder.

Every additional $1,000

in aggregate, of course, that you send automatically gets you up to the next level.

And Sarcastic the nomad becomes a baronet today.

And we say happy

happy brother.

We say congratulations to him on his title change in the No Agenda peerage ladder.

And we have a couple of them today.

Please welcome them in.

That's right, we have a number of Secretary Generals to congratulate.

Anybody can become a Secretary General, but it is a real official title, just like Mark Rutte, the Secretary General of NATO.

You can become whatever you want.

And we congratulate Sir Scovey, Sir Sharkey, who will be the Secretary General of the Salish Sea, Scott Rediker, who will be the Secretary General of Cascade County, Sir Kastic the Nomad, the Secretary General named to be determined, and Carrie Conkel.

All of you are now officially Secretary Generals of the No Agenda Show

Welcome them all in once again

And we have two knights to welcome up onto the podium today.

So there is my sword if you've got a blade John there you go.

Ooh, that's it.

Oh, that's an Iowa.

That's a nice one.

Commodore Sharkey, come on over.

And Matt, both of you have supported the show in the amount of $1,000 or more.

That means I get to pronounce the KD officially as Sir Sharkey, Secretary General of the Sailor Sea.

And Sir Matt, gentlemen, for you, we have Hooker Some Blow, Ren Boys, and Chardonnay, bong hits, and a double IPA by special request.

Also, with that, we've got beer and blunts.

We've got Rubinesque Women and Rose.

We have geishes and sake, vodka and vanilla.

along with the IPA.

We also have some bong hits with some bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablum, cowgirls and coffin varnish, organic macaroni and plasticizers, and of course we always have the mutton and the mead.

Now for the secretary generals, I believe you can go to noagendarings.com soon.

There will be the order form to have your very official certificate.

No, it's a different word.

Your proclamation of your secretary generalship will be able to order there with the name that you want, the address you want it sent to.

And of course, for our brand new knights, you can go there, take a look at your No Agenda ring, which will be coming to you.

It is a signet ring, so that means you always receive some sticks of wax to

seal your important correspondence.

And we always have a certificate of authenticity there for you as well.

Welcome, both of you, to the roundtable of the No Agenda Knights and Dames.

No agenda beyond

Yeah, baby, the No Agenda meetups.

Everyone knows all about them.

We are the only podcast that has this level of meetups, this level of organization, noagendametups.com, where you can schedule them, you can find them.

This is where you find protection because that's what connection always gives you.

These people that you meet at the meetups will be your responders in an emergency, your first responders.

And as always, Leo Bravo is out in California.

He has Flight of the No Agendas number 66.

A lot of people showed up.

Hey everybody, it's Leo Bravo at meetup number 66.

I'm passing the phone around.

The morning.

Down here at the HMS Bounty at Flight of the No Agenda number 66.

Can't wait for 666.

Hey, John, Body Warm Bobby here in our first meetup.

My two human resources, Bella and Uriah.

Wasn't sure if I was going to be able to make it out here because Camilla told me not to come.

I looked her square in the eye and I said, I'm going to come.

I'm passing the mic down to my daughter first, Isabella.

Donate to No agenda.

And my son, Uriah.

God saved the queen, man.

If I could do a quick

shout out to my coworker, he's a longtime douchebag, listening to your show for 13 years and has never donated a red cent.

His name's still Sean Sabuski for douchebag callout.

Hey, John and Adams, Sir Leo Kim Phopop here in the Communist Stronghold of Los Angeles.

And I have not stepped on any poop today.

Sir Robertson Acoustics here, having a great time with everyone.

I drove down four and a half to actually closer to five hours for this meetup, and I'm happy to be here.

Thank you, everyone.

In the morning!

Love the dedication of the Flight of the No Agendas out there in Southern California.

Here's the local 360 meetup.

In the morning from the vault in Blaine, Washington, this is Dame Jay, Protector of Pandas.

Hi, my name is Anna Lise, and I served the No Agenda podcast today, and they were, you know, absolutely horrible.

I'm just kidding.

They were amazing.

They were a blast.

And I hope they enjoyed being here as much as I am here.

So there you go.

Hi, this is Alan, aka Circumcision, where I can see socialism from my deck.

Not a spook, but they frequently come here, and I can't say anything else.

Sir Ryan the Refiner here, deconstructing news and constructing friendship.

In the morning, this is Travis in the morning.

Not a night, but not a douchebag.

Keep working on it.

This is Jason, and I'm glad the beard's been a year since we've had one of these, so we got to get these more frequent.

Thank you very much.

In the

way!

And our last meetup report, nice to have the server in there as well.

Remember to get your servers in these meetup reports.

This is the unofficial Maastricht meetup.

Very small.

Hi, John and Adam.

This is the unofficial Maastricht meetup report.

I joined one other producer.

Here is Roland.

In the morning, this is Roland.

Connection is protection.

Also, listen to R-A-N-D-U-M-B Thoughts.com online.

In the the morning.

And still coming, we got some meetups taking place.

Actually, we have one taking place right now, the annual South Jersey Pig Roast.

It's at Dane Wen's house in Medford Lakes, New Jersey.

I can't wait to hear the meetup reports from that.

On my birthday, September 3rd, Huntsville Area meetup 6 o'clock at the Old Bear Brewing in Madison, Alabama.

On Thursday, our next show day, the Northern Wake September Soi,

6 o'clock at Hoppy Endings in Raleigh, North Carolina.

And on Thursday, the 4th as well, the Houston Lazy Dog Monthly Meetup 6:30 at Lazy Dog Restaurant and Bar in Houston, Texas.

Many more meetups to come, including the 7th in Hofdorp, the Netherlands, South Slocum, British Columbia, Canada, on the 8th, on the 13th, Keyport, New Jersey, Oakland, California, the 19th, Tilburg in the Netherlands, on the 20th, Bedford, Texas, Fort Wayne, Indiana, on the 30th, all the way into October on the 10th, Johnson City, Texas, not far from Fredericksburg, where we'll have a meetup on the 11th.

I will be there along with Tina the Keeper, I hope.

That's it.

Noagendametups.com.

Go there to find out all about the meetups, where they will be taking place in your town.

If they're not anywhere near you, start one yourself.

It's easy.

Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

You want to be where you won't be triggered or hell lame.

You want to be where everybody feels the same.

It's like a party.

Well, I can't believe this happened.

I have no ISO, and I don't think you have one either.

No, but I have a song.

You have a song?

Yeah, you won't find it just by looking.

It's the

Kilmar is our neighbor.

Kilmar is our neighbor.

You can't have him from Trump.

No!

Kilmar is our neighbor.

You can't have intrusion.

No.

That's horrible.

We can't.

You haven't heard that yet?

No.

I don't even know what it means.

Kilmar Albrego Garcia is our neighbor.

Yeah, this is not an end of show ISO.

Oh, okay.

Well, go dig into the archives.

You only have a million of these things.

Let's try this one.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Got that one.

I got

I have feelings.

There it is.

Okay.

I have feelings it is.

And now, everybody, it's time once again for John's illustrious tip of the day.

Green masks for you and me.

Just a tip with JCD.

And sometimes Adam.

Oh, this is a screwball one, but I have to say it's dynamite tip of the day.

Black garlic.

Black garlic.

That sounds nasty.

So black garlic, and you can buy it

by the bulb.

And you can also, there's a different version.

There's also, they make a paste out of it.

So black garlic, I knew about it, but I was forced to try it.

And Mimi's a big fan of this stuff because she claims, and she's got one of those bracelets on it, measures everything she does, blood pressure, oxygen.

She says you take this, you eat the black garlic, and your blood pressure drops like a rock.

But besides the medical aspect, black garlic, which turns out to be, because I was irked by it when I tried it, I said, this is unbelievable.

You get a clove, you pull a garlic clove out, and you eat it.

It tastes like chocolate.

It's black.

It has the texture of roasted garlic, but it...

But it doesn't taste anything like garlic.

And it was, and I said, this is, I was so irked by trying it.

I said, I'm,

I'd like this

supposed dilettante gourmet.

I should have known about this years ago.

It turns out it was only invented in 2004 in Korea, but further research indicates it comes from a 4,000-year-old idea, a recipe

that

some guy rediscovered in 2004 about how to ferment garlic.

And it's a fermented garlic

in the bulb, within the bulb.

And you need special temperatures and pressures and everything in between to get it to work.

And it's not necessarily cheap.

You get like a couple of bulbs cost about six bucks, seven bucks, maybe.

And

you can eat it or you can mix it with stuff.

It would be good spread on bread with avocado toast.

It's an astonishing, it tastes a little like chocolate.

It's got a gorgeous texture.

It is a fabulous thing that I would have never had unless I was forced to try it.

Gorgeous texture.

It's just fabulous.

It's fabulous.

It's super gay.

I don't know what's up with that.

Well, it just was

amazing.

So, who, who and how was this 4,000-year-old recipe codified?

And what was it written on?

Stone?

Was it in hierarchical?

It was somebody dug it out.

It's a Korean

researcher found this recipe, I suppose, and they passed it it along.

It's this guy, some guy perfected how to make it in Korea because it's a process.

You can do it at home, but it's like, don't.

Wow.

It's just too much work.

It takes, I mean, you can do fermentations at home and do cabbage and different pickles and things, but in fact, this takes very specialized temperatures and pressures.

And there it is, another awesome food tip of the day.

As part of the tip of the day, find them all at tipoftheday.net.

Great master you.

Fabulous.

Just the tip.

Fabulous.

CD.

And sometimes Adam.

Created by Dana Bernetti.

It's just fabulous, I tell you.

It's fabulous.

So fabulous.

My, oh, my, oh, my.

Yeah, that's it, everybody, for our broadcast day on this

holiday weekend in America.

Labor Day weekend.

And guess what?

As a public service, we're working for you.

because we love you.

Join my league.

Up next on NoAgendastream.com, well, it was promoted in the meetup report, Random Thoughts.

Episode 334, so you can enjoy that.

And we do have some classic end-of-show mixes.

Since we didn't have any new ones, we've got

Gary with the classic Korean news screamer.

We've got Phantomville with the TikToks.

And Spencer Pearson, who's very optimistic about everything.

And we will return on Thursday with another at least three hours of media deconstruction for you.

And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, where it is thundering and very, very wet.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Yeah, and from Road to Silicon Valley, where it's kind of nice out.

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

See you all on Thursday.

Please remember us at NoAgenda Donations.com.

Until then, adios fofos, a hooey hooey, and such.

angong

angong angong

eo io

yum yum

to cut

your battle

That's right

TikTok, TikTok, TikTok, TikTok

Tick tock, Tick tock, TikTok

Tick tock,

Tick tock, tick tock tick tock

tick tock

tick tock

That's right

That's right, TikTok.

I am a real genuine optimist, and I see nothing but this.

None of this is good.

None of this is good.

None of this is good.

I am an optimist.

None of this is good.

If I'm not hanging out with you, we do this show.

I mean, come on.

It's never going to be anything interesting.

None of this is good.

You're a starry-eyed optimist.

You actually think that things are going to change.

None of this is good.

I'm not hanging out with you.

We do this show.

I mean, come on.

It's never gonna be anything interesting.

None of this is good.

You're a starry-eyed optimist.

You actually think that things are gonna change.

None of this is good.

I am a real genuine optimist.

This bull.

We do this show.

You actually think that things are gonna change.

I'm expecting way too much, I know.

I'm not hanging out with you.

Because you are an optimist.

Shut up.

Shut up.

I am a real genuine optimist.

This bull.

We do this show.

You actually think that things are going to change.

I'm expecting way too much.

I know.

I'm not hanging out with you because you are an optimist.

Shut up.

Shut up.

Hey, you know what?

I'm going to end the show.

I have

audios, Mofo.

I have feelings.