1794 - "Heroin Hotties"

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Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Thursday, August 28th, 2025.

This is your award-winning Gibbon Asian Media Assassination episode 1794.

This is no agenda.

Houston, we have a problem.

And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA, region number six.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all wondering why don't they talk to the trans

shooter's mother?

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill in the morning.

Well, obviously, that would break the imaginary wall

that we have a pattern here.

So we can't be doing that.

There'll be no talking to family members.

You know, in the 11-minute video that he did, where he shows all his clips,

big gun clips,

he shows the four-letter, I'm sorry, the four-page note to his parents and his apology letter.

And in there, he mentions everybody in the family.

He's got all the names.

He's got brothers and sisters.

He talks about how his sister is estranged from his mother and won't talk to her, and he'd like them to get back together.

And it just seems to me, and this also holds true for that Crooks character, the guy who took a shot at

President Trump.

Why hasn't the media who doesn't, I've seen it, they don't mind doing this, ambushing people, you know, coming up from behind, getting in their car and yelling at them.

They do it in the halls of Congress.

They do it everywhere.

But why haven't we seen these parents?

I want to see Crooks' parents.

I want to see somebody talking to him.

I want to see this guy's mom who trans him

when he was a minor, went to court and changed his name.

She was responsible.

I want to see these people.

I want to see them interviewed.

And if, oh, why are we protecting them?

They're the ones that are at fault.

Are you somehow confused with the news media being around to inform you?

Because that's not what they're for.

They are here to protect the system.

And the system is showing us patterns, two patterns.

One, for the first time that I can recall, the video stayed up and the so-called manifesto is everywhere.

This is a break in the pattern.

Well, there were two videos.

But I'm saying it's a break in the pattern.

Yes, this is something.

Well,

I'm not convinced of this because what I'm seeing was I think people down somebody got their quicker to the draw, and they grabbed those videos, and they've been repurposing them because they have been taken down from the original source.

I'm just saying it's a change in the pattern.

And the other pattern we have now, five five in the pattern:

Aberdeen, Maryland,

Snochia Mosley,

identified as transgender male.

That was 2018.

May 2019, Denver, Colorado, Alec McKinney and Devin Erickson McKinney, trans

school shooting.

Of course, 2022, Colorado Springs Club Q Nightclub, non-binary.

And 2023, Nashville, Tennessee Covenant School.

This is the fifth in a pattern.

And I think it's more than is there.

Is there, I thought there were six.

I may be forgetting one, but I, but I, but that's what I could remember off the top of my head.

So this is now a pattern,

and we need to just admit it.

And what never.

What has happened is

we the whole, I'm glad, actually, I have to say, I'm glad that this shooter was transgender so we can get back to the conversation because we've been desensitized about transgendering children, basically just to relegate it to conversations about school sports and bathrooms.

Now we can get back to the real conversation.

You commit demonic acts on your children.

You should expect demonic results.

Add a little bit of 4chan, X, Mastodon, Discord servers to the mix.

It was all there.

This was like looking at a timeline on a social media website.

Kill Trump, Skibbity, where's your God now?

Kill Spix, Nigger, kill Jews, Israel must fall.

Come on.

Even

this kid

wrote, like,

I'm tired of being trans.

I wish I never brainwashed myself.

I don't think it was you, kid.

And, you know, you want to hear because everyone's talking about that video.

Holy crap.

Just you want to talk demonic?

What is this?

That was pretty bad.

Dude, that is a demon.

And no wonder these people go after church and believers.

That's That's what demons want to do.

Simple conclusion.

We don't have a gun problem, a political problem, or a bigotry problem.

We have a spiritual problem in our country.

And we have to open up the conversation about transgendering our children.

This nonsense has to stop.

It has to stop.

It's out of control.

And yes, with that, let's interview some parents.

Let's interview some doctors.

Let's really get into it.

It's just crazy.

Luckily,

Fox and friends this morning had RFK Jr.

on.

They asked another important question, which I think the RFK Jr.

answered quite poorly.

Are you going to be examining at all some of the drugs that are used in order to make that transition happening to see if it plays a role?

Because we also know there was a trans shooter in the Tennessee situation.

Yeah,

we are doing those kind of studies now at NIH.

We're

launching studies on

the potential contribution of some of the SSRI drugs and some of the other

psychiatric drugs that might be contributing to violence.

You know, many of them

on there

have

black box warnings that warn of suicidal ideation and homicidal ideation.

So

we can't exclude those as a culprit, and those are the kind of studies that we're doing.

So I've never seen that medicine, but you're saying that if you get it, some of the side effects could be homicide, suicide?

Well, there are black box warnings on some of these psychiatric drugs that warn about in their clinical trials that they saw a suicidal and a homicidal ideation.

So, you know, we are going into that with an open mind.

Bobby, the answer is yes.

The answer is yes.

Beating around the bush.

The answer was yes.

That was disappointing, but okay, at least they had it out there.

The black box warnings.

This is not new.

And the M5M is not talking about any of this.

Any of it.

In fact, they obfuscated the whole trans thing to start with.

And then it's like, oh, it's a cash patel.

It's a terrorist attack on a Catholic.

No, no.

This is

another sad case of a child abused by their parents who went along with whatever stupid mind control has been out there for.

I mean,

what's the slogan?

I'd rather have a live daughter than a dead son.

Yeah, the old one.

We don't even know if he, if you said parents.

The media has given us so little information.

We don't even know if there was a dad.

Yeah, that's how bad it is, yes.

Here's

the mayor of Minneapolis, also not getting to the point.

There are no words that can capture the horror and the evil of this unspeakable act.

Children are dead.

There are families that have a deceased child.

You cannot put into words the gravity, the tragedy, or the absolute pain of this situation.

These were Minneapolis families.

These were American families.

And the amount of pain that they are suffering right now is extraordinary.

And don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now.

These kids were literally praying.

It was the first week of school.

They were in a church.

They should be able to go to school or church in peace without the fear or risk of violence, and their parents should have the same kind of assurance.

This kind of act of evil should never happen.

And it happens far too often.

The only thing it got right was the act of evil.

But you know that's going towards guns.

It just haven't done it yet.

Oh, no, they've already done it.

No, they've already gone.

The gun thing has cropped up all over the place.

It's guns fault.

It's not these people.

In fact, listen to the super, very short super cut trans in Minnesotas.

This is Minnesota promoting this.

Minneapolis will continue to be a safe haven for our trans community.

For being a safe haven for for transgender individuals.

We have sued them for gender-affirming care.

Yes, we are not going to scapegoat our transgender community.

When our children tell us who they are,

it is our job as grown-ups to listen and to believe them.

Yeah.

So it's so sad.

This child,

you know, didn't even want this.

Yeah, quote, I only keep my long hair because it's pretty much the last shred of me being trans.

I'm tired of being trans.

I wish I'd never brainwashed myself.

I can cut my hair.

I can't cut my hair now as it would be an embarrassing defeat, and it might be a concerning change of character that could get me reported.

And by the way,

a lot in

his

writings about, wow, you know, all the videos I'm watching, I'm surprised they haven't knocked on my door already.

Where was that?

It's not there.

It's a tra, but Minnesota is a trans,

it's a sanctuary state for trans, so that's not going to, he's not going to know what's knocking on his door.

They're encouraging it.

Yes.

And

I really don't know any good stories.

But I know parents who've trans their kids.

You know, it doesn't.

I just don't know of any happy endings.

I don't.

Now, it's only my story.

There's got to be a couple.

Not that I've heard of.

It's always a sad ending.

But we can't say that in the media.

Oh, we can't do that.

Oh, no.

That would ruin our relationship with the political parties.

And I'm waiting for President Trump to tell us the truth.

Where's that?

He should say it.

He doesn't know how to do it either.

I mean, you're coming the closest.

Because

we've seen these patterns, we've seen it over and over again.

I thought you had another trans clip.

I have the shooter shooter ID, the BS, the shoot.

This is a BS clip from NPR, the shooter clip.

Okay.

So the director of the FBI, Cash Patel, said on X that the shooter has been identified, quote, oh, wait, stop, stop, stop, stop.

Stop.

There's actually two.

I'm sorry.

I've stopped.

I didn't realize there's actually this.

That should be the second part of the second.

Let's start with Robin.

Robin Robin Shooter 1

NPR, and then we'll go to that clip.

Once again, a community is grieving, this time over this morning's shooting during morning mass at a Catholic church in Minneapolis.

Two children, ages 8 and 10, died in the pews where they sat.

17 others, 14 of them children, were wounded.

NPR's Jason DeRose reports church leaders are expressing their sorrow.

In a statement issued by the Vatican, Pope Leo is offering his, quote, heartfelt condolences and the assurance of spiritual closeness to all those affected, especially the families now grieving the loss of a child.

Archbishop Bernard Hebda of the St.

Paul, Minneapolis Archdiocese issued a statement calling for the end to gun violence and saying, quote, our community is rightfully outraged at such horrific acts of violence perpetuated against the vulnerable and innocent.

Archdiocese staff are working with Annunciation Catholic School to make sure families there have the resources they need.

Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara says the guns used in the shootings were purchased recently and illegally by the suspect who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Yeah, which in his video he said he was going to use the pistol he had.

You know, they had they constantly go on on NPR about how this is the guns were purchased legally.

Nobody explains how he had all the money to these were not expensive.

These were expensive

weapons.

A lot of gear there.

A lot of gear.

Yeah.

And they go on and on about they're trying to push the gun narrative as best they can.

But one of the trans killers over the six or seven that have been already come and gone, one of them was a trans female, guy turned woman, all tatted up, who went into, I think it was a 7- and 11 with a hatchet and started hatcheting people to death and killed two or three people

with a hatchet.

Yeah, we know knives are just as deadly.

We see, look in the UK, what about

bombs?

You know, these kids, they can't get a gun they said they say you can't get a gun so you blow up the place you're gonna kill a lot more people that way or poison I mean there's a lot of ways if you're a homicidal maniac to kill people

anyway let's here's part two of this where they kind of go this is later this is a very long report it's boring but I thought this little clip

this little sub clip was pretty good so the director of the FBI Cash Patel said on X that the shooter has been identified quote the shooter has been identified as Robin Westman, a male born as Robert Westman.

In 2020, Westman's mother applied to change the name of her 17-year-old child from Robert to Robin.

In court documents obtained by NPR, the mother, Grace, Mary Grace Westman, wrote, minor child identifies as female and wants her name to reflect that identification.

However, we do not know how the person currently identified, but the suicide note was signed as Robin.

And they can't even get the words out.

They don't know how

he, she identified, but they signed it as Robin.

That means they kind of identified as Robin still.

Yes.

So, I mean, this kind of reporting is terrible.

And again, you know, they could go through the trouble of digging up some...

some court document, which does take some work generally, unless it's online, which is possible in Minnesota.

But let's say whether it is or isn't, it still takes some work.

Then they can't track down the mom and just ask her a few questions or even show that she won't open the door, which they used to do.

They used to knock, hey, hey, can you?

I'm not talking to anybody.

You know, that kind of thing.

They won't even do that.

With this reporting, the mainstream media is so piss-poor, it's an embarrassment.

It's not piss-poor, it's by design.

They don't want to do it, they don't want to do it.

They're told not to do it.

Everything starts to fall apart when you lift up the layers of what's going on here.

Children who want to be trans

are either psyoped by their parents who have bought into

an unbelievable psychological operation.

The pharmaceutical, the medical-industrial complex, this just came out from the BMJ.

They did a survey, sorry, a study, research, undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM-5.

That is the actual medical

Bible that determines what is a

psychological problem and how it should be diagnosed and how it should be treated.

And because 92 physicians based in the U.S.

who served as members of either panel, N is 86, or task force on the DSM-5 with information recording the Centers for Medicare and Medical Services open payments database.

This period was chosen 2016 and 2019 to include the year that development of the DSM-5 began and three years preceding.

The results.

After duplicate names had been removed, 168 individuals were identified who served as either panel or task force members of the DSM-5, met the inclusion criteria of being a physician and was based in the U.S., therefore could be included in the open payments.

Of these 92 individuals, 60%, that's 55, receive payments from industry.

More than 60%, more than half received

payments from industry.

This is the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders, of which gender

dysphoria is one of them.

So they're just like, well, you know, we got some drugs, we got some procedures.

That's what all

the

plastic surgeons ran to.

We need to just face it and just say, hey, this is what's been going on.

Well, the Trump administration is doing something, a little something.

The Trump administration is threatening to poll federal funding from state sex ed programs that mention transgender people.

A division of the U.S.

Department of Health and Human Services told 40 states, five territories, and the District of Columbia in a letter they are now on notice and must remove gender ideology content from sex ed materials paid through the State Personal Responsibility Education Program, or PREP.

PrEP's goal is to prevent pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections.

The Trump administration warns that if even a mere mention of gender identity or transgender people is found in the curriculum, the programs could risk losing potentially millions of dollars.

No, that's a good start.

Stop teaching this stuff in school.

And maybe it's time to get some of these dumb books out, even though they're under lock and key and blah, blah, blah.

Stop it.

And parents have a huge responsibility in this.

Did you see the?

I think you got the email from one of our producers who watches a particular YouTuber with her daughter?

And she says, you know, this YouTuber does a lot of what you guys are doing, which she doesn't, but she does touch on some similar topics.

Did you see it?

Did you see it?

Well, I have two clips that I pulled because it was really good.

It's this British chick who sits in her bedroom and she just goes, it's crazy.

It's all crazy.

So I cut her out.

And I just went to the two teachers that I thought had something interesting to say.

The YouTuber is Halo Haley, and this is the first teacher who has a real problem with the presence of technology in her classroom.

Technology is directly contributing to the literacy decrease we are seeing in this country right now.

A lot of these kids don't know how to read because they have had things read to them, or they can click a button and have something read out loud to them.

Their attention spans are weaning because everything is high stimulation.

They can just scroll, watch less than a minute.

They can't sit still for very long.

Something I've realized is like, you know, on a day, I know when I was their age, I thought movie days were a treat.

I loved movie days.

It was a way to relax, kind of take a break.

And for them, what they mean when they say they want a movie is they want a movie on in the background for the noise while they scroll on their phones, put their headphones in, look at TikTok, and maybe talk to their friends and not pay attention to anything.

If I ask a child to handwrite something, even just a paragraph, five sentences, basic paragraph, they roll their eyes, they throw tantrums, they, I'm talking about high schoolers.

I teach 10th grade now.

High schools.

They get

really, really unruly.

And because I'm young too, they want to argue with me about it.

And they want to say, why can't we just type it?

Why can't we just type it?

Well, it's because you'll go on another website or you'll copy it or use AI.

You'll use Chat GPT.

They don't care about making a difference in the world.

They don't care about how to have a resume.

They don't care how, I mean, how to write a resume.

They don't care how to write a cover letter because ChatGPT will just do it for them.

And I think that we need to cut off technology from these kids

probably until they go to college.

So, wow, you're banging a lot.

What are you doing?

You're banging around, man.

Hello?

I need to go hang up the phone.

Oh, okay.

She's mixing up the word technology with the word cell phone.

Yes.

Well, I think they also have a lot of Chromebooks in school.

Well, they might have some computers of some sort, but what she's really talking about

is cell phone.

Yes.

Is the smartphone invented and promoted ever since 2007.

They used to have them before, but 2007 is the beginning of the end.

You can mark that date.

The second one is shorter.

This is one to add to our list of

can't tell time on an analog clock, can't give change, doesn't know what FL ounces they're writing.

Can't read clock.

Yeah, can't read clock.

Okay.

Floor to ounces, doesn't know what half a dozen is.

This is a music teacher now.

This is a music teacher.

I teach music lessons, and I'm a little bit concerned about my younger students, my Gen Alpha students.

I would say under 10, maybe 12.

So here's an example.

I had a student a while back.

I was doing a vocal warm-up with them, and they're probably about nine or ten years old and I was going to teach them an exercise that involves the months of the year in order.

So when I started to teach them this exercise, they go, oh, I don't know the months.

I don't know the months in order.

And I was like, oh, well, maybe nine and ten year olds, fourth and fifth graders, like don't know the months.

I was thinking back to when I was in first grade and my teacher had each of the calendar months like in a row in order with like all of our birthdays.

I definitely learned the months when I was six.

Yeah.

Can't don't don't know the months.

Wow, that's another one to add to the list.

Yes.

It's pathetic.

That's pathetic.

Now, I think there's good news because I've seen some subtle and not so subtle shifts in our very own audience.

The millennials are becoming very, not, I'm generalizing here, so it's not everybody.

The millennials are becoming somewhat nihilistic.

And they're just like,

and by the way, millennials, no one's coming for you.

No one's going to come and save you.

Now, there's Gen Z is switching.

And

I'm getting a lot of emails from Gen Z.

And they give me a lot of hope.

This is anonymous ranchers,

Gen Z rancher myself, who married a late millennial smoking hot wife.

I would say we, Gen Z, and I would rope in late millennials, saw what the millennials screwed up.

We look further back to how our parents raised us before books not recommending spanking.

We're back to spanking.

We're back to

a lot of it started with that.

When you think about it, when we stop spanking our kids, we're back to trying to have bigger families staying together as a married couple.

The generation before, are you still laughing over that?

Yeah, it's very funny.

The generation before us showed us that giving your children iPads early on was a horrible idea.

Gen Z is also the generation where cursive stopped being taught and schools generally started teaching less relevant subjects.

We had a high school math teacher stop class for a period and explain to us how credit card companies screw you over with high interest rates.

I use that day more than the rest of that Algebra 1 class altogether.

On the whole, I would say Gen Z and the following generations are doubted by the older generations, just like generations before them into history, generally the same struggles, just new and more vices.

I'm here to say, Gen Z, your boomer buddies are here for you.

We will teach you the things that went wrong.

We have been there.

We know you're in the right place.

You're at the right show to learn a few things.

Actually, everybody's at the right show.

You're still chuckling.

You're still laughing.

You know, Anne-Marie Barton shows me that, oh, there's a welding program at our high school in Philadelphia.

There's good things happening.

But millennials and anyone else for that matter, no one's coming to save you.

Not the government, not your parents, not your podcasters.

No one's coming to save you.

Make your own choices and decisions.

But I'm happy.

I love this shift.

I love the shift.

I love the young people coming in to listen to

their uncles.

I can handle it now.

I'll just be a boomer.

If it helps them, I'll be the boomer.

I'll be the boomer.

We got a letter from one of our contributors today saying that you're really not a boomer.

No, Generation Jones, I think is what they call it.

Yeah, whatever.

I'll just, you know, look, I'm the face of Gen Z in a boomer body.

What can I tell you?

There's nothing, nothing I could, I stopped fighting that.

People, you can be 20 and people will call you a boomer.

That's just the way it is.

It's just a slur.

It'll be a little bit more.

Well, it's just a slur.

Yeah, it's just a slur.

It's a slur.

It's a slur.

It amounts must to.

It's a slur.

It's a slur, man.

It's about time people, the B word.

They're going to have to get to that.

I think it's a slur, and if people use it, they might as well be, yes, it's just unacceptable.

I'm an outrage, I tell you.

It's unacceptable.

You can't be a boomer.

Anyway.

So we're talking about this sort of bull crap.

I do want to play these clips from one of the chief White House correspondent for CBS.

Yeah,

this was quite good.

Now,

people who've never worked in broadcasting at all, they don't realize that

you don't necessarily have a lot of friends in

the control room.

At all.

You might, if you go in there and be nice, but very few people, especially the.

Oh, only if you show an interest for what they do, you got to show it.

I did this because I truly wasn't.

I always warmed up.

The camera guy is far side.

the lighting guy.

Yeah.

Oh, the lighting guy, sound guy.

The lighting, the sound guy.

Well, when I was at Tech TV,

I made a fuss about the, because they had the sound was crap when they first started out.

And I found the sound guy, this guy is still around.

Excuse me.

Marshall Buick.

And I went to him.

I said, why is the sound?

We all sound like shit on this show.

Because I always had an ear for trying to have decent sound.

And he says, Yeah.

I said,

Why?

He went, Yeah.

He said, Yeah.

I said, I said, Why?

He says, We got cheap quality products.

He says, I can't make it sound any better than it is sounding.

He says, Somebody's got to make a fuss.

So I made a fuss.

Yeah.

And they got all this new gear in, and we sounded really good after that.

And so I was a big buddy with the sound guy.

So he had mic collections that he would load.

To this day, he'll loan me any

number of crazy mics that he owns.

But so you make and then you want to make friends with the lighting guy because they can make you look like

a really old guy if they don't they don't like you.

It is critical for people who are still in that kind of broadcasting.

These days, the iPhone does it all in the camera.

It's all algorithms that just make you look good no matter what.

But when it comes to studio, television, with a control room that's doing switching, the people there really appreciate it if you know what their job is.

I did audio for about 30% of MTV.

I was there anyway.

Rick Kelman, he died a few years ago, 10 years ago.

He was the audio guy, and I'd be hanging out with him at the time, mainly because this is another tip: the audio guys always have the best weed.

So he had the connections, everything.

And that, you know, he would go take a dump in my dressing room, and I'd just do audio.

And the director, no one knew it.

Hey, take a dump in your dressing room.

We were friends.

i had the only dressing room with the bathroom and he was the here was the bonus room you made you didn't make that clear here's the here's the bonus this is before email so i in my dressing room were at any moment 11 to 12 postal sacks old school postal sacks filled with postcards and letters And the agreement was, you know, whoever was taking a dump had to go through a couple of letters.

And if anything good popped out, pictures, for example, we'd lay those aside.

But back to the point, if you just hold on to the line producer, you know, that guy's hated in the control room.

You want to make good with the director, you want to be interested in what they're doing, the technical director who's switching

and the audio.

And then also, well, at the time, we had the tape guys in the back because you'd have a roll-in, it would have a seven-second delay because it had to spin up.

I'm going way back now.

So if you, if you, you know, you still see it today, like, well, let's roll that clip.

And it still takes forever.

That's just the delay between you and the control room and the control rooms and the director saying, roll the clip.

So I would be with you.

I'd say, okay, here's, here's where I'm going to end this sentence.

I'll end it with this so you can kind of time it.

So everything was tight.

Well, everyone else was doing Coke with Billy Idol.

I was doing that.

So the point is, is that the control room guys, when you're doing the feed before you're on the air,

they can record it.

And when they record it, this is the hot mic moment.

How did this recording of a hot mic get out?

Somebody in the control room recorded it and they kept it, put it aside, and then they released it one way or another, and out it comes to make you look like an idiot.

Very, so you don't want that.

Well, you don't want to be looking like.

no.

By the way, just to go, since we're just doing an aside here, I think that these end of shows where they show all the bloopers with the guy screwing up left and right and left and right, I think that is part of the same idea of making you look like an idiot.

You always feel it's insulting.

They do this for the sole purpose of making the talent look like an idiot because everyone hates talent.

Hey, next time you have a thousand dollar dinner with Bernetti, ask him if that's the same vibe in movies, because movies will often do this.

They'll show all the bloopers at the end during the credits.

I will ask him.

Is that also just the producer kind of getting

his last hurrah saying, we spent an extra $500,000 because these people couldn't stop cracking up or couldn't remember their lines?

Yeah, I think that it has to be.

Yeah,

because that's the only thing that makes any sense because it's not that entertaining.

So here we have this woman who is the chief White House correspondent for CBS.

That's the best part.

And I want to have a comment about that.

And then TMZ Live did something very similar.

I didn't record it.

So

she's the chief White House correspondent.

She is the go-to girl, Olivia Rinaldi, at CBS.

And somebody recorded her just before she did her hit.

It's what's called a hit.

Can you come on?

So she comes on to do her hit, but in the meantime, she's doing a mic check and she's doing all the rest of it.

And somebody's recording it, and somebody released it and here's what it sounded like.

Taylor Swift is engaged.

Taylor Swift is engaged.

Taylor Swift is engaged.

This, come back to me.

She just posted it.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

Oh, it's huge.

The ring is ginormous.

This is so exciting.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

It's on her Instagram.

It's on her Instagram.

It's on her Instagram.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

I feel like Paul Revere right now.

It loses just a little bit when you don't see that big mouth of hers go,

like she's ready for a fish to be slopped in there.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Kind of miss.

You lose a little bit.

It's pretty bad.

Yes.

And

oh my god.

Oh my god.

Oh God.

Oh God.

It's ginormous.

The ring is ginormous.

It's on Instagram.

This indicates to me that

this is an idiot.

Yes.

And she's chief White House correspondent.

So then they cut to the hit.

Now

this is the part that actually went over the air.

She's still giddy, but she's calmed down.

Her voice has gotten to a professional level.

But she still can't get over this remarkable news that

this publicity stunt of the highest order

because they both actually work for the same publicist, more or less.

We discovered this years ago, two years ago, when they got together.

It was bullcrap.

And they were

forced to be a couple.

And then, of course,

we'll talk more later.

But now, here she is under

almost normal circumstance.

This is a very exciting moment for me in my professional career because I get to announce that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.

She's not even being ironic.

She really means that.

This is an exciting moment because she's like Paul Revere in her professional career.

She gets to announce it.

She has breaking news, everybody.

This is a very exciting moment for me in my professional career because I get to announce that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are engaged.

As you're talking to Jo Lang, our lovely producer Gabby Ake texted me and said, Taylor Swift's engaged, and you can see it right there on her social media.

She put it up in that post that they got engaged with the caption: Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married with a little dynamite sign there.

So, very exciting here that we get to break that and tell you about that.

All right, Swifties for life.

I have a feeling, though, based on his prior statements, the president will not be having a Taylor Swift wedding in the ballroom.

Hopefully, that can shift and change.

We can have some world peace, right?

Olivia Rinaldi, thank you.

You know, Reed, I volunteer to cover it in case you need.

I'll be there to cover it.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you so much.

Sacrifice, Olivia.

We appreciate you, my friend.

Oh, my God, that is amazing.

Exactly.

It's amazing.

Unbelievable.

It's amazing.

It's amazing.

Well, anyway, so TMZ, just to mention this, because I saw this too.

TMZ Live, I just tuned it on just casually.

And they were doing a very interesting story about some rapper who is a psychopath,

big shocker.

And right in the middle of it, one of the staffers, one of the kind of the

slightly overweight blonde that's always sitting around making comments

in their little newsroom they have.

She comes in and she is beside herself with the, holding a phone, same kind of thing, Taylor Swift, and they all got all the whole, they stopped this, they basically, as a showstopper, they stopped to report on this, on the rapper, and even Harry, or is it Harry Levin?

Yes.

He's like, he got giddy because he's a big Swifty, and they'd rush over to the computer because he's got to check it out to make sure it's true.

And he's on the machine himself and he's looking it up.

And it was embarrassing.

Yeah.

What is wrong with these people?

Well, there's a lot wrong.

And,

you know, just kind of back to the phones and social media.

I saw this guy developed an app.

It's think it's called the Parallels app.

And it looks just like Instagram.

It looks like you're doing an Instagram live, or as we say, I'm doing a live, only it makes it look like you have 40 or 50,000 people watching live at that moment.

And so, and I think, I think this is available in the App Store.

And so, the guy goes right up to doorman at clubs.

Like, there was an art gallery, you know, all kinds of celebrities inside.

And he showed, he says to the bouncer, hey, man, I'm live right now.

We got 49,000 people.

And the bouncer is like, oh.

And then he calls over the managers, like, yeah, come on in.

The guy is in the VIP lounge and the women, the women who just go, oh, hey, hi, shout out to my peeps.

They're dancing, they're showing their bodies off.

People lose their ever-loving minds because they think they have an audience.

It is a very, very troubling thing to see,

but also a great hack to get in everywhere.

Like, hey, man, I'm live right now.

Like, look at this.

And you see all the people streaming by, you know, chatting and waving, et cetera,

on the screen.

Great idea, but it shows you.

It shows you how egotistical we've become.

Just crazy.

I like that bit.

It's a great bit.

Can I just do a few AI things for a second?

Get it out of the way.

This is enough.

It's kind of a hard.

It's a harsh.

Transition, but sure.

Well, I'm trying to stay phones, technology.

I'm trying to stay in that vein.

So this was bound to happen.

We knew it happened, but now the lawsuits come out.

A California family is suing OpenAI, saying ChatGPT encouraged their teenage son to take his own life.

The lawsuit claims that 16-year-old Adam Raine developed a deep emotional dependence on the chat bot, which repeatedly encouraged him to die by suicide, they say, and detailed methods of self-harm instead of guiding him toward help.

The parents found thousands of messages between their son and the bot bot showing that it became a sort of suicide coach instead of offering support.

OpenAI now says it is working to strengthen ChatGPT safeguards in the light of the tragedy.

If you or someone you know is in crisis, call 988 to be connected to the suicide and crisis lifeline.

Of course, they can't do any of that.

And Discovery will be phenomenal.

Thousands and thousands of pages of this kid being sipped.

Hey, put me on a jury for this.

You know where I'm going to be headed?

You know, the biggest possible settlement in favor of the parents and against these operations.

This is a liability issue that they better get to real quick.

And then

they should be sued.

But they can't.

They can't do it.

You can't put guardrails around.

They don't even know how it works.

It just kind of works.

And then the

if they sued that girl, if you remember, the one who, some girlfriend of a guy who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself, you remember, it was a few years ago.

And she lost the suit.

It was some,

I forget what type of suit it was.

It was wrongful death, I think.

And I don't see why you can't sue the chat GPT for this.

Oh, definitely.

They have no indemnity or immunity.

They have to be sued.

They have to be sued.

The same doctors who do the

surgeries for trans,

the pharmaceutical companies have to be sued.

The doctors, the clinics have to be sued.

You have to, the lawyers, come on, lawyers.

Hey, Rob, step up.

Boots and suits.

Come on, man.

Let's go sue some companies.

So here is the chief financial officer of OpenAI on CNBC in the morning with that sorkin kid.

Her name is Sarah Fryer.

And I wish I had video because she's very odd, odd expression she makes.

And so, of course, the conversation is, well, you know, ChatGPT-5, it was held as the big thing.

And, you know, people are kind of grumbling about that being so careful.

Oh, we don't want to blow the bubble of AI.

Oh,

maybe it's getting a little better.

But listen to what the complaints were.

Because that's really what this is all about.

It's not for coding.

Yeah, it does some things.

It's certainly not for writing, which I'll get to in a moment.

It's really for people just to love as their AI.

Joining us right now, though, at the table, this is not Gray at all, an exclusive interview with OpenAI's CFO, Sarah Fryer, at the table.

It's nice to see you.

We talked to Sam just about two weeks ago now when Chat

GPT-5 launched.

There was a little bit of consternation in the week since about sort of what is going on with the model, some shifts in the model.

I will say that it seems like it's gotten a little bit better from some of the problems that first emerged right out of the gate.

Have you been experiencing this?

What kind of financial question is this?

Have you been experiencing this?

Hey, has it hit your bottom line, chief financial officer?

From some of the problems that first emerged right out of the gate.

Have you been experiencing this?

So, I mean, I think with any launch, when you have 700 million weekly active users, you start to find people are very opinionated.

They've come to love their chat GPT.

And frankly, as we've released things like memory, it's become more and more your chat GPT.

But as we've come out of the gate, we're seeing actually acceleration in plus and pro subscriptions.

That's a good sign.

People are seeing a lot of value.

And we're seeing really nice momentum in the enterprise, great momentum with developers.

In the enterprise, great momentum.

That means bull crap.

Those are bullcrap words.

words.

Yes.

Just to throw a little sidebar here, JC, who's in this stuff,

he says it in the community, the community.

The community.

Oh, the community.

Everyone thinks ChatGPT 5 is a complete fail.

Yes.

And everybody knows it.

Yeah.

And if anything, it costs more because of this router thing they put in the middle.

And just as I'll do another aside,

I keep reading these

news bulletins about these AI geniuses who are being poached.

And then, you know, for 100 million, 250 million from OpenAI to Meta to Google, then back to OpenAI.

They're just raising their price.

What is this AI smart or what?

I thought that this stuff could do it all for you.

You got to get some nerds who you're going to overpay grossly to come in and do it for you.

And I think they're all unloading them on Elon.

Good luck with that.

Yeah, Elon seems to be

catching the

I'm buying them all up.

Yeah, we're going to be at the top of the bill.

Oh, it's going to be fantastic.

Meanwhile,

remember the guy I told you about?

We were at his house for

a dinner.

This is a while back.

And he is in the data center business.

Yes, I remember that.

And so the conversation I had with him at the time, because I'm like, this is a nice house.

And he's talking about data science.

Oh, wait.

So you're you're basically you are for, you're building stuff for compute.

He says, yep, that's what we're doing.

Then I asked him who his customers were.

And I'm like, you know, it seems like it's, this was when the articles were coming out that Google had canceled a couple contracts,

which, of course, well, that's not true.

But he said, it doesn't matter because

private equity came in.

We've been bought out.

I said, ah, hence the house.

He says, yeah.

And now I hear, surprise, surprise,

all salaries at that company are being cut by a third this year.

They'll cut another third next year.

This is over.

This is what private equity does.

They've already flipped it.

They've already sold it on.

Now they're just stripping away the parts.

And there'll be nothing but a mountain of debt left.

And then someone will come in and scoop up these data centers for pennies on the dollar.

So these are all signals that something is afoot.

I'm with you.

It probably won't happen tomorrow.

It's going to take longer.

But then we have.

And by the way, private equity has pulled an interesting stunt.

They have somehow wrangled the ability for people to put private equity firms into their 401ks.

Yeah,

that's part of Trump's.

So everybody knows what that means.

It's a way to, you know, because these guys are, this is some sort of the private equity thing going on in this era is something of a scam.

And

they're going to lay it off on the public.

Just what all the big boys always do.

They're going to push it into

the retirement funds.

And so when the whole thing collapses, which it will because it can't sustain,

they soak everybody.

They take the money by the, you know, your buddy has a big house.

He benefited.

Yeah, he got it.

And other people will benefit.

But the people that won't benefit are

the public at large who's got this crap in their 401k.

And I should also say that either he takes the third salary cut, he's 61, so he's not probably going to get another job.

If he takes the salary cut and wants to stay on with another third salary cut next year, he also has to sign a one-year non-compete.

It's like, wow.

And he doesn't really want to stop working, but

he kind of has to.

There's no way out for him.

Oh, speaking of data centers, just the latest, listen to the bull crap at the end of this report.

New at 5:30, Google is investing $9 billion in Virginia through 2026.

The announcement came this morning at a community celebration with state and local leaders.

Google says the money will be spent on cloud and AI infrastructure, including the development of a new data center in Chesterfield County near the Meadowdale Technology Park.

The company also detailed expanded education and workforce development programs for Virginians.

Google's commitment to invest, to hire, and to help prepare our students for a great future is extraordinary and I think a great testament to what Virginia offers today, which is a great place for people to do business, but an even better place for Virginians to find opportunity.

In the past, we've shared the voices of community members concerned about the impact of data centers on the local power and water grids and on their wallets.

Google Google says its data centers operate in the most energy-efficient way in the industry, and that the company is committed to increasing energy capacity and affordability for all Virginians by doing things like investing in innovative technology like fusion energy.

Google also reports the company is working with the county to stay within the water system guidelines.

I knew you'd get a kick out of that.

Don't worry.

Don't worry, people.

We're investing in fusion.

It'll be fine.

Fusion.

We'll make you whole on the back end.

It's going to be fine.

Now, unfortunately.

This is like bringing quantum into the picture.

Oh, it'll come.

As a solution.

It'll come.

Unfortunately, our president is so all in on this and has nothing but

ass kissers,

you know, just the whole thing is just disgusting.

He believes it so much.

He's like, oh, yeah, this is it.

Because, you know, how could all these smart people be wrong?

What he needs is the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group to come into the Oval Office and lay it down and say, Mr.

President, stop this insanity.

And no, no.

In fact, we're going to take it one step further.

What could be worse than getting your kindergartners to high schoolers to grade 12 in on this nonsense and doing it with sweet little Melania?

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Good luck.

Our educators will guide the process?

Oh, no.

This is a disaster.

They're encouraging this stuff.

Oh, yeah.

We won't be able to keep up with China if we don't have our kids all talking to their chat GPT.

Boo.

And then for you as a writer, this is my final clip.

I'll stop.

For you as a writer,

and this was interesting.

There was also one of our producers

wrote an article.

I put it in the show notes about

a chat bots, let's just call them chatbots,

using very performative language.

And that's how it kind of

makes you feel good the whole time.

But it's not really saying that you're great.

It's using performatives.

I think that you're really good,

or it seems, or

apparently.

I mean, there's all these different words that just make you feel good.

And this assistant professor of computational linguistic studies, Tom Juzek,

he points out the fluff words that these chat bots use.

And you, as a writer, I think, will enjoy this minute.

AI models use certain words like multifaceted,

realm, intricate, surpass,

underscore.

Sometimes we call them AI fluff words.

The reason being that these adjectives, they qualify, they don't add that much to language.

What we have seen is that a lot of these words that the models overuse are now popping up in human language as well, both in written language.

And now what we've been observing is, okay, these words are also popping up in spoken language.

The question is,

why do we observe this in speech?

Is it because this is the natural language change as we've seen it in the past, or is it in relation to these AI models?

There is the potential that the AI models are putting words into our mouths, into our minds.

But really, there is an entire discourse similar to what we are discussing for words, for beliefs, human behavior, human beliefs, political beliefs, moral beliefs.

So even the possibility that these models are putting words and and thoughts into our minds, that is something that we really want to carefully study.

Yeah, carefully study.

Knock it off.

Just knock it off.

AI fluff words.

Which brings us to another situation with words, which I want to bring into the show.

Which is based on the third way.

The third way

group.

It's a consulting group that's basically a bunch of Clinton-esque people with their list of words that they want Democrats to stop saying.

Oh, I read about this.

And I want to go over these because

they actually left stuff out.

This is the words like patriotism and words.

Well, no,

the Democrats stopped saying that a long time ago.

No, they want people to stop saying things.

And I want to go over this list if you don't mind.

Yeah, yeah, I'm all in.

They have it categorized.

I found the original article, and so they categorized it, and nobody really

they kind of brought out the whole list, but they don't know how quite to

attack it because it's just too much here.

But this is the

list of words they're trying to get

Democrats to stop saying because it's hurting the cause.

And there's a thing called therapy speak.

These words say I'm more empathetic than you, and that you are are a callous person, and these words that have to go are privilege.

Yeah, okay, privilege,

violence as an

environmental violence,

dialoguing,

othering, hold on.

We are dialoguing twice a week, and we other a lot.

Othering, triggering, yeah, good luck, microaggression, assault, and invalidation.

Dude, the Democrats won't be able to say anything.

You take all these words out.

They'll be like, this is only one of the segments.

Progressive stack.

I haven't heard that one.

Progressive stack is good.

I like that.

I know that.

I think that's a good one, too, to be honest about it.

Centering.

Safe space.

Oh, well, we can't get rid of that.

Holding space.

And body shaming.

Well, what's left for them?

Well, we got more.

That's just one category.

Then we move to seminar room language, which is the language that says, I'm smarter than you and concerned about important issues that you aren't.

And we have, these are phrases more than they are just words, but we have subverting norms.

I have never heard that.

No, well, we're not in those boardrooms, so.

systems of oppression.

Yeah, that's a good one.

Critical theory for that.

Cultural appropriation.

Woo!

Big one.

Postmodernism.

Overton window.

What is the over?

I keep forgetting what the Overton window is.

Well, I think we should probably go to our favorite chat bot and ask our chat bot to explain to us in very certain terms what is the Overton window?

Oh, the Overton window.

It's the range of ideas the public considers acceptable at a given time.

Like, what's okay to talk about without sounding totally out there?

It shifts as society's values or political climate change.

Think of it as a window of normal that moves left, right, or wider based on what people are ready to hear.

For example, ideas once seen as fringe, like neural healthcare, can slide into the window as attitudes evolve.

It's named after Joseph Overton, who came up with the concept to explain what policymakers can realistically push.

Pretty neat way to think about what's in or out in public discourse.

Want me to dive deeper?

Techno.

No, no,

no, of course not.

Geez, I don't want you to dive deeper.

What is this?

That should be outlawed.

Let's dive in, dive deeper.

That's not on the list, but you're right.

Dive in, dive deeper, deep, dive.

That needs to go.

And the last on the seminar room language is heuristic heuristic

and existential threat.

Measure anything.

They will have nothing left.

Well, wait a minute.

There's more categories.

Hi, I'm a Democrat.

Thank you.

Organizer jargon.

These words say we are beholden to groups, not individuals.

People have no agency.

Agency.

This is a common problem with the Democrats, which is you're not an individual.

Yeah, you're part of the group.

Hey, hey, ho, ho.

Mike check, mic check.

Radical transparency,

small D democracy.

So you're the frame, in other words, you're not supposed to say, yes, well, that's like small D democracy.

Is this group

run by the Trump organization?

It's a political, a bunch of Clintonet

Clintonistas, yeah.

Oh, interesting.

Barriers to participation.

I use that.

I always use barriers to sales.

Stakeholders is no good.

No good.

No, can't do that.

The unhoused.

Yeah.

Food insecurity.

Man.

Housing insecurity.

And person who immigrated.

Do they have birthing persons on this thing somewhere?

Yeah, it's coming.

They don't have, they have person who immigrated, they have housing,

unhoused, and other stuff comes up.

This is the next one: gender orientation correctness.

They say your views are or traditional on gender and gender roles are at best quaint.

Birthing person,

inseminated person, person.

Hold on, I think that should stay.

I like inseminated person.

Yeah, it also applies to gay guys.

Pregnant people,

yeah,

feeding.

Oh, my lord.

Cisgender.

Yeah.

Dead naming.

Wow, it's everything.

Heteronormative.

You're right.

The Democrats have nothing to say.

Heteronormative, patriarchy, and LGBTQIA plus.

It's got to go.

They really will have nothing left.

Now, what they didn't put on this list is another one missing front hole.

They did not put that on the list?

No, it's not on the list.

I'm with you.

I think that should be on the list.

Wow.

And then we move to the next.

Well, I can go.

I'm not.

This is ending soon.

This is the shifting language of racial constructs.

Is next.

Yes.

Latinx.

African-American community.

Well, you got, you know.

Am I there?

Am I getting there?

You know, it's funny.

Somebody on Fox called it

Latin.

Latinx?

Latinx.

Latinx.

Latinx.

Okay.

But you got that right.

Latinx is number one.

Yeah, of course.

It's stupid.

Number two is BIPOC.

Oh, yes.

Get rid of that one.

BIPOC.

Allyship.

And here's the whopper that they're never going to get rid of.

Intersectionality.

No, no.

So

is anyone listening to this group?

Well, it got some some play on the right-wing media.

Of course it did.

Of course it did.

This last list is explaining away crime.

Okay.

Let me guess.

Let me guess.

Defund the police.

What else would be in there?

I don't know.

I'm interested.

Defund the police.

Yeah, the defunded police

is not on here.

Because it's not about

the buzz terms that are used like thus.

There's only four words or four phrases.

Okay.

Justice involved.

In other words, these are phrases you use to not say, you know, criminal.

You don't want to say the word criminal.

Oh, yes.

Is a justice involved person?

The justice involved person.

Yes, I got it.

Okay.

This is an interesting one because I never heard anyone using it, but it's

carceration.

Carceration?

Not incarceration, but carceration?

No, there's carceration, and there's incarcerated people.

Oh,

man.

And then the last one is involuntary confinement.

I.e., in jail.

Yeah, I guess.

Well, in jail.

Well, this is, you know, I hope they listen to it.

This is a good start.

Words matter.

You know, starting.

We will not get rid of one of these terms.

Well, keep that list handy so we can flag them

and and we can call out violations of the third way list.

Whatever it is.

Well, the Democrats are way beyond this.

Meanwhile, things are finally coming to a head,

strangely enough,

in Canada,

as there's a clash now.

There's a clash between the Qs and the LGBs.

I think it's the LGBs, but maybe there's some T's in there.

It's a clash.

It's a clash because now we have conflicting agendas.

The group Queers for Palestine, Ottawa, blocking Ottawa's annual Pride Parade.

Just so you couldn't hear it, the queers for Palestine in Ottawa.

That's who's doing this.

The group Queers for Palestine, Ottawa, blocking Ottawa's annual Pride Parade Sunday afternoon.

Bringing the festivities to a halt.

We had staged a disruption of the parade to say our demands to both Capitol Pride's executive director and board of directors and to the mayor.

We were looking for apologies from the mayor in particular for boycotting last year and for encouraging other powerful institutions to boycott the parade.

The group halted the parade to demand the apology from not only the mayor, Mark Sutcliffe, but also other organizations that pulled out of the Capitol Pride events last year when organizers issued a statement condemning Israel.

The mayor said he would not come up and talk to us.

And even when communicated that the parade would then disperse if we didn't move, he still refused to come up and talk to us.

In a statement, Ottawa's mayor said in part, it's deeply regrettable that a group of activists chose to block the parade, ultimately leading Capitol Pride officials to cancel the event.

My heart goes out to the many people in our city who were deprived of the opportunity to participate in this celebration of joy, resilience, and community.

I am sad I didn't get to march, but I'm definitely way sadder for the people who are experiencing a lot of hardship over in Palestine.

And this is a way to get a really good message out.

Yeah, really good message.

So this is queers against the LGBTs is a problem.

Queers.

Unbelievable.

Queers for Palestine.

Hey, maybe we should roll right into the executive order on flag burning because I got an email.

I get these a lot.

Shall I do the voice?

Oh, is it one of those guys?

It's the guy.

It's that guy.

Yeah, it's Spencer.

Of course.

Yeah, I want you to do that guy's voice.

You two are just Trump is right about everything, guys.

You're anti-war until it's a Trump war.

I can't wait to hear you defend him for executive order banning flag burning.

I'm sure you know it's covered under free speech, but Trump is right again, I'm sure.

You've got the other kind of TDS.

Oh, well, that brings me to a couple of clips from one from Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.

Well, first I replied to him, of course.

I said, I'm sorry, what war did he start?

And where's the executive order?

And he said, well, the bombing in Iran, which was done to please Israel,

was an act of war.

It didn't escalate into a bigger war.

You got me there.

But don't think those actions don't radicalize people in the Middle East.

It's silly.

And do you really think it was about Iran not having nukes?

I said, no.

In fact, if you had listened to what we said, I thought it was about BRICS and China, honestly.

Yeah, that's exactly true.

That's what your thesis was.

So this guy's completely...

He's not listening.

No, of course not.

There's a gang out there, you know, and it goes kind of like this.

You've lost the plot, Curry.

Dvorak is the same, but you've lost the plot.

Yes, it's probably true.

At least they liked me more.

I did read the executive order, so let's play your clips and then we can just play this.

I just want this is, I think, good to know.

This is Hillary in 2006, and she's talking about flag burning, Hillary Clinton.

So I hope, Mr.

President, that we can pass a law that criminalizes flag burning and desecration.

I agree that

this burning, this desecration

that can happen to our flag is something that people have a right to ask this body to try to prohibit and prevent.

Yeah, of course.

This body.

That's Hillary.

Let's go back another decade to Joe Biden back in the 90s, and he had this to say.

In my view, it doesn't matter why you burn or mutilate or trample on the flag.

You should not do it.

What holds us together as a nation, Mr.

President, is not a common language, although I think that is necessary.

It is the national symbol.

The reason it is worth preserving is because it unifies this diverse nation.

The flag's unique place in our national life means that we should preserve it against all manner of destruction.

A statute making it unlawful to burn, mutilate, or trample upon any flag of the United States, period.

It doesn't matter who burns or mutilates or tramples the flag, and it doesn't matter why.

Under my proposal, it'll be unlawful to do the flag harm, no if, ands, or buts.

Tell everyone they can't burn the flag.

Now, what do you think this is really about?

Including Trump.

Why do these presidential people,

Hillary not being a president, but a presidential president-adjacent person

with a front hole?

What do you think that the message really is?

Why do they make a big deal out of this?

I don't know, to be honest about it, why

necessarily, unless it's to exhibit some form of patriotism, because the flag is symbolic.

Right.

So

it's about patriotism.

Now,

my stance, and I think you'll agree with me, you want to burn the flag, you can wear the flag.

I mean, there's been lawsuits about that, too.

Abbie Hoffman,

legend.

Wow, there's a name.

Does anyone remember Abbie Hoffman steal this Book?

Probably not.

I don't know.

Nobody does, Boomer.

That just, that's a true boomer moment.

I read that when I was probably 10.

Steal this book.

It's a great book.

I think I stole it from the American Women's Library in Amsterdam.

So burning anything like that is obviously falls under your

freedom to express yourself.

And although I don't like it, it's like fine, whatever.

But that's not what the executive order says.

It's very clear what this is about.

Although it's squirmy, squarmy, squirmy, whatever you want to call it.

Smarmy.

Smarmy.

There you go.

Notwithstanding the Supreme Court's rulings on First Amendment protections, which is burning the flag,

the court has never held that American flag desecration conducted in a manner that is likely to incite imminent lawless action or that is an action amounting to fighting words is constitutionally protected.

So, what the president, and this is just a minor part of the executive order, what he's trying to say here is: well, if you burn a flag and it causes a riot, or there's a riot and you're burning a flag,

I think if you're inciting a riot no matter what, whether you burn a flag or not, is you know, that's a problem.

But what this is really about

is illegal immigrants burning the American flag,

or even visa holders who are here

visiting, visa, visit, visiting.

And I'm on board with that.

If you want to come here and you want to work here and you want to be a part of our society, then don't go burning our flag.

I'm okay with that.

And I'm not, and,

you know,

that's, to me, is like, get out.

Just get out.

If you don't care about us, about our flag and what it stands for, then get out.

But in general, if you want to burn a flag, okay, you can be a douchebag.

People burn themselves.

It's fine, too.

Well, you know, it's a hate crime and illegal to burn a gay pride flag.

Is it really?

Yes.

Is that a hate crime?

Yeah.

Well, I didn't know that.

You can burn the American flag.

What is a hate crime exactly?

It's just exhibiting some sort of targeted hatred toward a group, specifically a group that could be identified as

a minority.

But what this comes, this comes down to the same thing,

you know, yelling fire in a crowded theater.

You are, in fact, allowed to yell fire in a crowded theater.

If you do that with intent to cause a stampede and people die, it's a different story.

That's one of the most

between that and the so-called separation clause, the non-existent separation clause, those are two of the biggest lies about the U.S.

Constitution.

Oh, you can't yoke fire in a crowded theater.

Yeah, you can.

Sure, you can.

But if you do it with the intent to hurt people

with a stampede and someone gets hurt, you got a problem.

And that concludes our constitutional lesson.

That concludes your little pitch.

For today.

I'm glad I got the Hillary thing in there, that's for sure.

That concludes our little pitch for today, children.

But I'm not too worried about anyone caring because they don't even know what half a dozen is.

So it's probably just going to be a lot of fun.

And they can't tell the months.

That's my favorite.

New favorite.

January,

December,

June.

What's next?

I remember when I was probably six,

and

my mom was kind of mean in this.

He says, do you know the months?

And

I was always listening to records at home.

And I forget what the name of the song is.

Maybe it's the Andrew Sisters, but at a certain point, it goes, January, February, June, and July.

Is that Sisters, maybe?

Sisters.

It was somebody.

So I say to my mom, January, February, June, and July.

And she went, You better learn your months.

You're about to go into, you're about to be seven years old and you don't know your months.

And I remember, like, going, I was so scared.

And I was studying the months.

And I came back, back, mom, I know him.

I know him.

I know him.

I really, I know him.

I do.

I was just, it was just the song.

The song got me confused, mom.

But six.

And now, we don't know.

I got a calendar on my phone.

Who cares?

The phone.

You can, but

brings us back to the end of civilization, which began in 2007.

The end of civilization.

Well, here, what the parents do here, and I think it's pretty good.

They will give their kid an Apple watch so that they can text and receive, because these Apple Watches now you can text and receive a phone call and so but but then the parent controls the app so there's no other apps on it and so they can still text and and have a phone but it's not really an easy way to text you're not going to be in a chat group with your friends like that

and that seems to be a pretty good

pretty decent halfway solution

Halfway halfway also known as half-assed.

Well, I mean, I'm still for ham radios.

I think all kids should have a walkie-talkie.

Some of the Gen Z-ers are getting these.

You said that earlier.

You had a note for someone.

Yeah, yeah.

They love it.

They love the hams.

I guess we were talking about the flag burning.

Let's talk about D.C.

crime because that's a big topic.

Yes.

Oh, yes.

I have some clips.

I got the D.C.

Crime Union Station clip.

Okay.

The Department of Transportation says it's taking over management of Union Station, a major transportation hub in Washington, D.C.

NPR's Jill Rose reports.

Transportation Secretary's Sean Duffy says his department is taking management of Union Station back from Amtrak.

The station, which is within walking distance of the U.S.

Capitol, has been owned by DOT since the 1980s.

Duffy says the department will now reclaim management of the station, which he said will help to, quote, make this city safe and beautiful at a fraction of the cost.

National Guard troops have been seen patrolling the station since the Trump administration sent the Guard and other federal law enforcement officials into Washington.

Though local police statistics show that violent crime in the District of Columbia has declined, declined, declined in recent years.

Declined.

So they're making the point, you know, they're not talking about, they're giving us, again, bad reporting.

They don't talk about the rigged numbers and all the rest of this been well documented by now.

But so we go, but NPR now goes into the juvenile.

There's a whole segment they do on the juvenile thing that, you know,

Janine Piero Priero.

Judge Janine, man.

Bomb him, bomb him, bomb him again, eh?

Is the

bomb girl wants to bomb the juveniles into oblivion.

And so this becomes a big topic of conversation here on NPR about, oh, well, you know,

the whole idea is that we shouldn't,

we've kind of backed off on juveniles because it's turned out that our research indicates that if you're harsh on them, then they become lifetime criminals as opposed to letting them get away with everything so they won't become lifetime.

Bring back spanking.

Bring back spanking, people.

There we go.

It's change one.

Unlike President Trump, who was railed against violent crime in the city at large.

Right there.

Railed.

What does even railed mean?

Let me ask.

Give me a definition of railed.

Railed can mean a couple things, depending on context.

If you mean physically, it's when something moves along or is secured by rails, like a train on tracks or a curtain on a rod.

Now, if you're thinking slang, railed often means getting hit hard or overwhelmed, like in a game or argument.

Oh, please.

Stupid.

It's just, it's, it's.

So it's a colloquialism that isn't even valid.

Exactly.

Railed.

He railed against it, man.

I mean, railing, when someone rails against it,

I'm getting really mad.

Unlike President Trump, who was railed against violent crime in the city writ large, Piro was zeroed in specifically on local laws meant to rehabilitate people accused or convicted of crimes at a young age.

She's penned opinion pieces and letters to lawmakers criticizing laws allowing for things like juvenile sentence reduction, record sealing, and early release.

I want to send a message that we are going to catch you, that we are going to change the laws, that if you're 14, 15, 16, 17, we're going to bring you into the justice system.

Piro has connected the district's reforms to the city's recent uptick in youth violence, which included a a sharp rise in shootings in 2023 that has since declined.

Since declined.

Since declined.

Oh, hold on.

I got to stop that for a second.

First of all,

Judge Janine would be the one to use the super predator term.

You watch.

She's dumb enough.

She's smart.

But she's also dumb enough to throw something or a new version of super pretty.

I would take a bet on that that she won't.

You don't think she will?

No, I don't think so because she's so conscientious about being a right-winger that to use that term, which is really popularized by Hillary, I think would be beneath her.

And there was something else I wanted to say.

Hold on, I forgot it already.

Let me see.

Which included a sharp rise in shootings in 2023 that is.

So I looked at the crime statistics of D.C.,

and they were talking about how it was down 30%.

And I'm like, how did they arrive at this number?

It's very simple.

They looked at 2024,

all crime, or whatever that, what was the statistic?

Was it it was crime.

And then they looked at what they have to date.

Well, there's a third of the year left.

So that's how they arrive at it's down 30%.

Well, yeah, the year's not over yet.

They didn't do it month over month or period over period.

They did it literally full year versus three quarters of a year.

This bullcrap.

Which included a sharp rise in shootings in 2023 that has since declined, since declined, since declined.

But complaints about juvenile justice reform from prosecutors are nothing new in both the capital and in other parts of the country.

D.C.

Mayor Muriel Bowser says she is also concerned about sending the wrong message to adolescents accused of crimes.

I am an accountability mayor.

If you commit a crime in the district with a gun, there has to be accountability.

And that's if you are an adult or if you are a juvenile.

I don't think we always have that accountability.

But criminal justice reform advocates don't want to see DC leaders make what they say will be counterproductive changes simply to appease Trump and Piro in order to war off additional interference.

Vanessa Batters Thompson is the head of the DC Appleseed Center for Law and Justice.

She argues that cities and states have pursued policy changes allowing for more lenient sentences for young people because of the overwhelming evidence that punishing them pushes teens to commit more crimes in the future.

Bring back spanking.

That'll start.

You've muted yourself.

You're self-muted.

It is a crime in 40 of the 50 states to self-mute yourself on a podcast.

You are still muted.

Click the button.

I wonder if maybe he's having an argument, doesn't want us to hear it.

Maybe he's...

Sorry.

I'll tell you how this happens.

Yeah, it's magic.

But the point, yeah, yeah.

You had something to say that I thought was important, and I wanted to dispute it.

Or bring back spanking?

No, not about bring back spanking.

The logic, the logic that was brought up in that clip where they say that deterring, in other words, by punishing crime, it doesn't act as a deterrence,

which makes sense that it might.

It acts as an encouragement.

How did it, what is the logic here?

Their logic is the following.

To deter crime by punishing the juveniles, it will encourage more crime.

Yeah.

I want to know the logic.

Do you have it?

Nope.

Huh.

No, of course not.

All right.

Well, they claim that's true.

Okay, well, let's go on the WTF, which is the worst clip, which is this one.

Pushes teens to commit more crimes in the future.

It feels like we are taking a step back from an evidence-based approach to criminal justice to one that is really focused on the short-term appearance of left crime at the risk of a population that is much less stable over the long term.

Pero has also criticized a DC law, allowing people convicted of crimes under the age of 25 to seek sentence reductions after they've served at least 15 years.

More than a dozen states have passed similar reforms, giving judges a chance to review a sentence after a significant amount of time has been served.

Troy Berner was one of the first beneficiaries of Dacey's sentence reduction law after spending 24 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit.

Wait.

Wait, the guy didn't commit the crime?

Yeah.

And he is a beneficiary of a shortened sentence?

How come he wasn't commuted if he didn't commit?

What is he doing in jail in the first place if he didn't commit the crime?

Well, they throw that in there to show that the justice system does not work because people who are innocent get thrown in jail.

That's part of the whole ethos of the left, you see, is they don't always get it right.

So I could be your kid.

So you don't.

By the way, little, well, remind me, I got to tell a Fredericksburg story right after this last clip.

You want to set it up?

I'm not going to set up the Fredericksburg story, but I remember to say that to you.

Let's go to the.

So anyway, so the point is that this is a propagandistic outfit, this NPR.

And people are giving them money.

It's really a shame.

Here we go.

It's a shame.

Stop getting it.

So here we go.

This is the last third.

He now studies criminal justice reform issues and observes that these reductions are only meant to give people second chances after they clear a rigorous review process.

He says they have no bearing at all on youth crime rates.

We're doing some amazing things out here.

And I think, you know, when it's all said and done, you know, people's lives are being involved in this misleading narratives.

Similarly, Nye Winslow, policy counsel of the D.C.

Justice Lab, points to Pierrot's focus on the city's juvenile record-sealing law as a misguided one.

I know she and the administration want to talk about public safety, but if you are allowing people the opportunity to move forward and gain a legal income, get legal housing, get legal education opportunities, that will decrease the chance that they are going to resort to criminal activity.

Pira's office declined to speak with NPR for this story, stating her public comments spoke for themselves.

For NPR News, I'm Alex Kenny.

Hold on a second.

These juveniles do have a home.

It's not as though they're homeless, roaming around homeless kids.

Unhoused.

Oh, yeah, unhoused.

And so, this logic, again, the logic is elusive.

Mainstream media is not good for anybody's mental health.

But even in Fredericksburg, we have gotten to a place where there's something that happened

in people's minds.

I'm not sure exactly what it is.

So we live on a

it should be a gated community, but it's not because, you know, there's a whole

who owns the roads and the city didn't want it when this, it's a, what do you call it?

A subdivision.

And there's 12.

You're in a subdivision?

You have an awful lot of property for someone in the subdivision.

It's Texas, man.

Here in Texas here, we got lots of land.

We have the mini, we got the Mac mansions and we got them all over the place because that's what we do.

That's what we do.

Our Mac mansions with lots of limestone and exposed beams, which we do not have.

12 homes.

And so we're on one end.

It's a cul-de-sac and there's a cul-de-sac on the other end.

And then there's a road and a couple of deaths.

Wait, wait, stop.

There's a cul-de-sac on one end and the other end's a cul-de-sac.

How do you get into this area in the first place?

In the middle, there's a road that comes

and in the middle, there's actually where the mailboxes are.

Okay, you got the picture?

You got the picture.

Not really, but yes.

We're all the way at one end, quiet, little Adam and Tina and Phoebe just living here in our modest home.

The Mac mansions are a little bit further up.

But about nine months ago,

a family moved in, and the guy's a contractor, and so he's already irritating everybody because he had, you know, like

tractors and big machinery in his front yard.

And while he was building his house, but then they kind of stayed, and so there's all kinds of consternation at the other end, including

neighborhood consternation over the guy has heavy equipment in his front yard.

Well, you know, all right, man, can you move your tractor?

And, you know, 4th of July, they were shooting fireworks off, off and it was oh you know it was and all the debris was going in other people's yards and their pool and

and so there's a text group of half of the inhabitants and i've been roped into this because i find it highly entertaining um because i'm on the other end we're in the quiet peaceful part

and

so the other of this last weekend it was uh saturday night and i'm walking phoebe And they have two young boys, a baby, and I guess the boys had

some friends over.

And I don't know where the parents were, but they had gotten one of

his

utility vehicles, which is

kind of like a golf cart that can pull stuff, but has a real engine in it.

And they're racing up and down the road.

I mean, racing

is a big word.

They've got one headlamp, and they're all hooting and hollering.

And it's like 9 o'clock or whatever.

Yeah, the kids, right?

And then they had electric.

House party.

Yeah, they had electric mini bikes and they're zipping around and Phoebe's like, they're afraid of me because, you know, the Phoebe is like, she's just going nuts when they come by.

And, you know, they said they're going up and down.

And I'm like, yeah,

I remember when I was a kid, you know, I had all kinds of motorized vehicles.

And yeah, you know, it's nine o'clock, whatever.

So it wasn't loud or anything, but they were just going up and down.

So I thought nothing of it.

Like,

I'm not going to be that old coot who says, I can't stop that.

However, shake your yada, shake your fists.

Shake my fist, shake my fist, yes.

However, turns out they were doing this until one in the morning up at the other end.

And so the text group fires up and like, can you believe it?

They were doing that until one in the morning.

I'm like, well, what did you do?

Well,

you know, I couldn't get to sleep.

I texted.

What is wrong with you people?

I said, I said, okay, next, because, you know, we do have a 10 o'clock ordinance, I guess.

And just after 10 o'clock, you stop making noise.

It's fine.

Unless you talk to everybody, I'm going to have a party.

Come on over.

And I said, what is wrong with you?

Next time they do that, text me and I'll call my friend Mike, the lieutenant, the sheriff's office.

I have him send someone over and scare the living daylights out of him.

But these people don't do that anymore.

They sit there and grouse on text.

You're grown men.

Are you going to let these kids terrorize you until one in the morning?

You just go out there and say, hey, cut it out?

This is Texas.

There's something going on.

People have lost the plot.

I mean, what are you afraid of?

Are you afraid that you're going to get someone's parents angry because you told their kids to knock it off?

It's disappointing,

to say the least.

By the way, this is an ongoing saga.

There will be more updates.

There's a lot more going on with these people.

We have a, you know, in Holland, in Dutch, in the old country, we have a term for a family like this.

We call them Tokies.

And they are.

Tokies?

Tokies.

T-O-K-K-I-E-S.

Tokies.

Tokies.

Tokies.

Yeah.

Tokies.

And every neighborhood eventually gets some Tokies, and we got them.

And luckily, they're at the other end of the road, far away from me to be disturbed by them.

Yeah, it sounds like a winner.

I had some Tokies living next to me when I was done.

Get a Tokies that were

heroin dealers.

Excellent.

And they weren't there that long.

They were there for maybe six months, but it was pretty apparent what was going on.

And it was funny because they also owned a restaurant in Berkeley, which

remained nameless, but I think they financed the restaurant with their heroin dealings.

So one day, so there's one day, so I got a knock on my door because somebody mixed up the houses, and I thought it was the heroine.

Hey, man, hey, man, are you holding?

Are you holding?

But no, it was kind of a surprise.

It was two,

I don't know if they were world-class, but they sure looked like it to me.

Supermodels.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they use that instead of eating.

They do heroin.

And it was like, holy shit.

These women are beautiful.

And

they had the guy's name.

Does he live here?

No, he's next door.

And so

I'm giving them directions.

Oh, thanks.

And they go over there.

And then the door opens.

You hear it slam.

Then it opens again.

It slams.

They get back in their car within 10 minutes and off they go, the two of them.

And I'm thinking, holy macro, what a business.

Wow.

This is a story I have not heard from you.

This is a new one.

Yeah, and I've never told it.

Almost 18 years, and you never ceased to amaze me with your life

about the hotties and the heroin addicts.

Hotties.

And the heroin hotties.

There you go.

Heroin hotties.

That's the name for a show title.

Yeah, I think so, too.

I'm writing it down just in case.

Heroin hotties.

Wow, man.

What a world, huh?

We get to live in it.

That's great.

I love that we get to live in this world.

So I have these.

How much time do we have left in this segment?

Hey, in this segment, I give you 15.

Well, let's go with the ownerist.

I got to found a TikToker guy, but it's just really a news reporter.

He's on the UK.

And it's UK reports of the crap that's going on in the UK

that they're trying to pull over on the public, and the public just buys it.

The UK is a mess.

Yeah, it is.

Here's the, these are they call onserous, but this onserous UK cash limit.

Have you heard about the cash limit?

Yes,

they're doing it all over the EU, so it doesn't surprise me it's in the UK.

I'm just going to guess

no more than £100 cash.

Well,

it's a little more elaborate than that.

Okay, here we go.

From September 18th, 2025, withdrawing more than £200 in cash within seven days will activate an alert on your account.

Wow.

Yes, the moment you cross that limit, your banking activity goes straight to the Financial Intelligence Unit, supported by HMRC, the Treasury, and the Financial Conduct Authority.

And it doesn't stop there.

A new automated monitoring system will scan every withdrawal, deposit and transfer.

Take out £300 today and another £100 later in the week, instantly reviewed.

Your account could be checked, restricted or even temporarily paused.

Do this often and you could end up on a high risk list, facing block transactions, limited card use and possible reports to other agencies.

The rule is aimed at reducing activity in certain sectors like property, second-hand cars, and cash-based deals.

But many believe it could affect ordinary people too, making every step of your financial life feel closely monitored.

Wow.

You know what these people need?

I mean, I would have said Bitcoin, but we might as well just hit them with some stablecoin quick.

They need something.

That is draconian.

It's ridiculous.

And they talk about the reason for this.

So you can't buy a secondhand car cash.

No.

So I can't go buy, you got a car for sale.

It's like 500 bucks.

Here's 500 bucks.

Give me the outdoor.

What kind of car are you buying for 500 bucks?

Well, I'm just saying, just to make it, I'm rounding numbers.

Okay, 10 grand.

Here's $10,000 in cash.

Can I have your car?

No way.

You might be a drug.

You might be holding heroin for the hotties.

You can't have that.

I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous.

So here's the second clip that's got another crazy thing going on in the UK.

Which has grown significantly in recent years.

But here's where it gets interesting.

£90 will be taken before your salary even reaches your bank account, adding up to over £1,000 per year.

With many families already facing higher living costs and inflation, this new deduction is likely to have a big impact.

HMRC will handle the collection and employers will be legally required to ensure it's taken.

Exemptions apply only to pensioners, large families and those on specific benefits.

For everyone else, it's automatic and unavoidable.

While supporters say this is a necessary step to manage public finances, critics feel it places extra pressure on regular workers.

No kidding.

So that's to reduce the deficit?

Yeah, so

they screw up and they run up a big deficit.

Yeah.

And they say, well, you know, what are we going to do about this big deficit?

Well, what we're going to do is we're going to ding everybody with the because everything's now, you know, the finances is going to be all digital because you can't even have $200 in cash, you know, before being considered a criminal.

So you have so that you can't do anything about it, and the money just gets sucked out of your account, whether you like it or not.

Wow.

Bitcoin, people, get to the Bitcoin.

Bitcoin's not going to help.

I think stablecoin is the answer, but it's not, that's like, it'll be illegal.

They'll just make that illegal.

Oh, it already is.

Yeah, they, you know, that you saw that commercial that Coinbase did about everything's fine in the UK.

It's like a three-minute commercial.

It's like a

cabaret.

They're on the streets singing and dancing, and everything's a mess, and the garbage is piling up and rats are walking around and the ceiling's caving in and people like everything's fine everything's lovely and then it's because coinbase wasn't allowed to either operate or certainly not to advertise their services i think no i ever saw that ad yeah it's it's around well of course we still have the uh raise the colors protest ongoing in the uk and it's spreading And I thought it was rather interesting because we were talking a couple shows ago.

He said, well, who's organizing this?

Who is organizing all of this immigration, all this illegal stuff, and people getting

hotel rooms and et cetera, et cetera?

Well, it turns out that the only people organizing it are the citizenry themselves who just let it happen because they were told by their media and their politicians, oh, poor people, poor people, without any thought for the consequences.

And now the Australians are acting up.

An online movement.

When did it become racist to be a patriot?

Planning to take to the streets.

The Australian people have had enough.

With the backing of real politicians.

How dare you bring these people to our country and then have them be looked after by the public purse?

This nation is sick and tired of migration.

This is the digital groundswell behind March for Australia.

A planned series of demonstrations next Sunday in every state capital.

Anti-mass migration rallies.

Sam won't give her real name and would only answer our questions in a pre-recorded video message posted to her page, but claims to be an organiser.

Myself, as well as every other state organiser, is intending for this event to be peaceful, non-violent, non-aggressive, and just a bunch of your average Australians standing up against mass immigration.

There is no clear single leader.

Many supporters, though, were aligned with anti-lockdown, anti-vaccine movements.

Everyone I know is going.

There are videos that don't even feature real people.

We demand this government be removed by the Governor General immediately.

AI generated clips used to sell the message.

Security experts say the social media algorithm driven momentum is fueled by scenes globally.

Immigration raids ordered by the US President in America, protests against migrants in the UK.

Yeah, people are sick of it everywhere.

Yeah, it's good.

We'll see how that goes.

I love the real politicians.

Like, oh my God, real politicians are with these people.

We can't have that.

We should get these real politicians out.

There's no good.

All right.

TikTok clip only have one.

We actually have two.

I I thought this,

I want to play this clip.

This is a TikTok clip.

And somebody brought in, this is people bitching about Joe Rogan.

Oh.

And I don't like to necessarily

play that sort of clip, but they're bitching about Joe Rogan because he had a couple of anti-vaxxers on.

And then

when was this?

All the time.

All the time.

He has anti-vaxxers on.

All the time.

He has a lot of anti-vaxxers on.

Yes.

And,

but these women, these are two Brits.

I think they're in some podcast.

I can't figure out who they are, but they post everywhere.

And so they're going on.

There's an unbelievable ill logic to what they have to say.

But they came up with

a new concept, which I thought was interesting.

And there's a term called privilege of platform.

And Joe Rogan has this.

He has privilege of

platform, which means big platform.

Yeah.

And of course, this goes along with the you shouldn't platform these people or I, this is my favorite.

Candace Owens says this.

I won't use my platform to

talk about these people.

We have a platform.

It's tiny.

But, you know, it's like a diving board, basically.

But we've got a platform.

Yeah, but our people are the best.

That's true.

I do not think some episodes of the Joe Rogan experience are okay.

I have issues with a lot of the people that Joe Rogan has interviewed.

Most specifically, I do not like the fact that he reaches into alt-right groups and platforms people with very racist, very hate-filled ideas.

I hate that about his podcast, and I really do not like the idea that it is so widely supported sometimes.

However, if we are sticking to the issue of these two particular podcast episodes that people are so upset about recently,

My main question is, what opinions deserve a platform on Joe Rogan experience?

And the main hurdle for me, whenever someone shares an opinion on a a podcast, is, is this person qualified to share the opinion that they have?

Is this person considered an expert in their field?

And when we bring up these two episodes that have caused this furore,

they are actually concerning two people who I would deem experts because they are a cardiologist and a vaccine scientist.

So it's an interesting conversation because although we have two experts who are very educated and are very informed in their fields, they are two experts who disagree with about 99% of their peers who are also experts.

So we kind of have a situation where if we had all these experts on this particular topic in a room, 997 are saying one thing and two or three experts are saying another.

And how the hell do we deal with that?

Yeah, and then a lot of people might turn around to that and say, okay, well, then clearly it's a freedom of speech theme because clearly we need to hear from everyone, from all of the experts in the room.

And I agree with that to some degree, but then perhaps it's not as much about freedom of speech as it is about privilege of platform, right?

Like, this is a huge platform.

Oh, brother.

Well, that's kind of the Douglas Murray argument about Dave Smith.

Douglas Murray was when he went on to debate.

Dave Smith is on Joe Rokin again, and he's still talking about that debate.

Like, huh, move on.

Move on, dude.

But he's right about one thing.

Douglas Murray,

he, in essence, said you shouldn't platform people who aren't experts on the topic, which is a little bit like what, although it's in reverse here, because I guess these people were experts in the field.

But you shouldn't platform anyone who I disagree with.

That's what they're saying.

Well, no, no, that's basically what the two women are saying.

Okay, you should have experts, but they have to be experts that we agree with.

They have to be experts that are in the majority.

In other words, science, you know, science is not a vote.

You know, you don't, you know, it's not like, oh, majority rules.

So that means that science, you know, otherwise we still be using leeches, I think, to cure disease.

Eight out of ten doctors say smoking camels is good for you.

It'll help your cough.

Just don't forget that.

Yes.

So, yes.

So

this is all nonsense.

Joe Rogan is Joe Rogan.

He gets just put on whoever he feels like.

What difference does it make?

Well,

with the understanding that almost nobody really watches mainstream news anymore, In the United States, there's nobody under 30, maybe even older, who's watching network news.

Oh, I can't wait to turn on the six o'clock news.

No, there's no the numbers show that no one is really watching cable news, certainly not on that age bracket.

They're all watching Joe Rogan.

And I think our lucky stars and the Holy Spirit that the Gen Zs are coming to us.

They're like, okay, let me just hear what's going on in the other world while I'm here ranching, ranching, and making babies.

Yeah, spanking my kids when they get out of line.

Yeah, they need to know.

They need to know what's happening.

And they come to us, to our platform.

They come to our platform.

I love it.

Come to our platform.

You're welcome here at this platform.

And with that,

I want to thank you for your courage in the morning to you, the man who put the C's in the UK cash crunch.

Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr.

John C.

DeVoir.

Hey, in the morning, Mr.

Adam Curry, the more shift of Seabus and Gravity the Air South Toronto, James and Nice out there.

Hey in the morning to the trolls in the troll room.

Let me count you here.

Hold on.

We're still low.

1657.

Should be about 1800 for a Thursday.

We were short 150.

We are.

Yeah.

Is it Labor Day weekend?

Is that coming up?

Yeah, it is, as a matter of fact.

It should be a should be

a banging show on Sunday.

There should be nobody listening.

By the way, at least we're working.

We're not doing what everyone else has been doing, which is taking a week off.

Yeah, you know,

I got a message from somebody.

It's like,

while you are casting stones at others, what are, you know,

some people have to work.

What are you doing?

What are you running for?

I'm like,

what?

When I was talking about you should run for school board or local city council or get involved, get involved.

He's like, some people have to work for a living.

Like, you know,

just because it sounds really easy, we do, this is a full-time job.

And by the way, we have no salary, no health care, no pension, no benefits, no PTO, no vacation.

I frequently am doing my shit, my part of the show from vacation.

There's no financial planning because it's a roller coaster of donations.

What are you talking about?

You know,

I don't even know why I came up with this.

Yes,

it's a constant struggle.

That's it.

It's a struggle.

That's the point.

By the way, on the quad screen,

here's the new messaging from the Minneapolis shooter.

The shooter was obsessed with other shooters

and wanted to kill children.

So there's at this moment, we still.

On one of his rifles, he had a bunch of shooters' names on him.

Yeah, no, I know.

But what they don't have is the obvious

transgendering of children, making them, we have a pattern.

We have a proven pattern of this.

That's what you're looking for.

We have a pattern, but that is not what your mainstream media is going to tell you.

So

come up on our knees here.

The boomers will tell you what's really happening.

So the 1,657 trolls are listening.

They're listening live, trollroom.io.

And of course, on the modern podcast, that's by the way.

Let's just go to noagendastream.com.

It's the same thing.

Yeah.

Noagenda.stream or noagendastream.com.

It's just multiple domain names.

I like trollroom.io.

What's your problem?

I don't like trollroom.io.

I love

been using this for five years.

Now you tell me you don't like it?

I've only bitched

showing you how rare it is for me to complain.

Okay.

I never liked it.

I like noagendastream.com.

It's got a branding.

But do you like us calling the troll room, the chat room, the troll room?

You like that, though, don't you?

I don't.

It doesn't bother me one way or the other.

Oh, okay.

Well, I did want to say there's a brand new podcasting

2.0 app out, which is Pod Home.

Pod Home.

Pod Home, yes, from Barry.

Barry is Dutch, and Barry built Pod Home.

He has a hosting company, which he runs by himself.

But he also has a brand new app.

It's good.

He has something called Podcast Pulse.

And this pertains to the bat signal that we have in the 2.0 apps, where, first of all, you can listen to a live stream, a live show, and we have the bat signal, which alerts you when we go live.

And you just, in your podcast app, you just click on it, boom, you're listening to the live stream.

Does it beep?

Depends on what you have said.

I mean, you don't know how a phone works, but yeah, these modern phones, they can give you an alert.

You might have seen it.

A little thing comes from the top, and you get a little beep, and whatever you set it to.

Yes.

Is it different than a message?

You can have it

function differently.

You can have it.

Yellow, hey, Stooge, the podcast is beginning.

Get on the phone.

You can do something like that.

Yeah, in fact,

I'm going to ISO that.

People could use that.

So you could actually set that as your alarm tone when we go live.

That's possible.

And of course, when we publish within 90 seconds, you know that the podcast has been updated.

These legacy apps, sometimes wait 15 minutes or hours at times when things go wrong.

Days.

This is because of the pod ping infrastructure of 2.0.

And what Barry did is he has

got a new feature that he put in his app.

I think he calls it Podcast Pulse.

And so you go into the Podcast Pulse section of the app and it just shows you, boom, every app that updates.

And sometimes there's three per second.

It's really cool to discover podcasts.

You're like, vroom, vroom, vroom.

Just go flying by and there's a trail and

it's fun.

It's a fun way to discover new podcasts.

But you just want to subscribe to the No Agenda podcast and you'll be alerted appropriately.

Value for value.

We were talking about it earlier.

The only way we've ever made money on this show is by your value that you return to the program.

We've never taken any money from corporate interests, never had any commercials.

We knew that that would never last.

And here we are.

We'll be 18 years in October.

Our 1800th episode is coming up.

So, what is that about?

100 episodes a year, I guess.

Yeah, about that.

Two a week for 2020.

So, 52 weeks out of the year, it'd be 104 to be exact.

Yeah, well, we we didn't start off with two episodes.

So we went to two episodes later.

And you can support us with your time, your talent, or your treasure.

Boots on the ground are always welcome.

Of course, we have prompt jockeys who are very good at prompting art.

Of course, your results may vary depending on the model that you use.

You used to have real artists.

They're all dead.

The Dutch masters are, in fact, now dead Dutch masters.

They've all left us because they couldn't compete.

And it's sad because they were actually quite good.

But I have to say, when you look at Darren O'Neill's artwork for episode 1793, which we titled Retribution, it was good.

Now, it was still kind of the luminance was down because the model he's using is edging towards model collapse.

So there's no bright colors, but it...

Because of that, the intent of making it look like a movie poster, which was the attack of the radioactive shrimp,

it really hit the mark.

It was well done.

We liked it.

You got the planes flying overhead.

You got the giant radioactive shrimp, people running away scared, some of them apparently wearing Nazi uniforms with Nazi hats.

I'm not sure what that was about.

Some of the planes look a little strange.

But hey, you know, it's AI.

We liked it.

It was a good piece.

We looked at a couple others, going to noagendargenerator.com where everybody can participate.

Let me see what else we had in there.

We had,

man,

Servent, Servent, you got to use another model.

Your model has collapsed.

It's literally like you put on sunglasses looking at, you see that one with the pickup truck?

What's the name of it?

Oh, that pickup truck is so dull.

It's dim.

It's just dim.

Yeah, I mean, it's dim.

I liked Jeffrey Rhea's radioactive shrimp.

I thought it was kind of cute.

He had a shrimp with all kinds of radioactive signs around it.

Yeah, that was a good piece.

It was definitely good.

That could have won.

Could have won.

I don't think there wasn't that much.

Uganda, another Jeffrey Rhea, Ray, Rhea.

Doll.

No, I think you got it all.

That was it.

It was underwhelming.

Underwhelming.

The jump the shark.

We had a dude named Ben with a microphone with a dead cat on it.

And then there's always something.

Oh, by the way, I want to make that correction.

It's not a Rode mic.

It is a DJI mic.

Somebody sent me one of the producers corrected.

Well, there's two versions.

There is definitely a Rode mic used a lot.

Yeah, well, this DJI mic's the one I was talking about.

And it comes,

you see it so much because it comes with a video recorder as a kit.

Yeah.

And so it's like a vlogger, vlogger kit.

And so you have this stupid little mic, which is a little...

A vlogger kit.

A vlogger kit with a wireless little square mic, which looks idiotic.

You know, the vlogger kit should come with that parallels app so that you can look really good.

Look, I got my kit and I've got 50,000 people watching me live on my live, my insta live, baby.

I also want to make another mea culpa.

Yes, Adlai Stevenson was involved in some way with

the

Khrushchev showdown with the missile crisis because he was the UN ambassador at the time.

I was corrected by three different producers on that.

Oh, blimey.

So I have to mention that.

And then I also have to mention that somebody did point out that there's about six states that allow open containers in the car.

And Texas, until 1980, allowed you to have beer in the car open and they used to have because I remember this because you used to be able to drive through a liquor store they had drive-through outlets and they give you a beer and you could go in your car and but the the discussion was and you would do this to me you said can't you have open container in the car in Texas and I said no so I was right and you can't now say used to be that way

Because you're kind of no, but I claim that I knew about this in the past and you denied that it ever existed.

Ah, there it is.

As long as I'm wrong, okay.

You are wrong.

You are dead wrong.

I am right on all counts.

Don't make me call my lieutenant at the sheriff's office.

Come over there.

He's not going to drive over here to run out of

his gas, his electric car will be dead

before he gets out of his car.

No, he won't be able to afford gas in your state.

That's the problem.

What are you at?

10 bucks a gallon now?

Five.

Really?

Yeah.

Wow, that's way down.

It's not way down.

It's been five forever.

It's too high.

It should be three.

Well, no, I know it's too high, but, you know,

it's your taxes, man.

Enjoy it.

No, it's not the taxes.

It's a combination of ridiculous.

My favorite thing, which is they,

don't get me started.

They first they always have a tax on the gasoline to pay for highways, and then they put a special bill through to put more tax on the gas to pay for highways when we already have it.

And then the other thing is the blend of gasolines that they use is very specific to California.

And so this special blend that only about five refineries can even make includes the Richmond refinery over here in Richmond, obviously, the Chevron refinery, and which is going to shut down

because California can't keep a refinery in the state without driving them out of business.

And so now, so who knows what the price of the gasoline is going to be after Chevron shuts down their Richmond refinery?

The whole thing's a disaster.

Yeah, California.

Exactly.

Uber Ullis.

No, it's not California.

It's Newsom.

Okay.

Who was he voted in by?

Californians, who love him.

They love their policies.

I don't even believe that to be true.

Well, there's something on the left.

I think the elections have been rigged

for decades.

Yeah, probably.

California.

There you go.

You can say it all you want, but it's California.

Anyway,

so now we get to uh the part where we thank our producers we always thank everybody and it's sincere we are very very grateful that people support us

because it's all we have it's all we do and uh we thank everybody fifty dollars and above never below fifty because people want a limit where they know that they are going to be anonymous and for some reason people want to be anonymous I've never really understood why.

Are they afraid that

someone's going to find out?

I mean, of all the things you could be listening to, are we really a problem?

Ever wonder about that?

I've run into, there's a, this goes back a number of years.

I've talked about this before.

There was a little cockney girl that used to be on the E-News.

And I was in L.A.

once and having

lunch with a producer of E-News Plus, and she was at the table and she was...

I introduced her to the show.

And I said, you should listen to the show.

Okay.

And so she listened to the show.

She listened to the show once and never listened again, thinking,

and I tried to get some feedback.

Why did she stop listening to the show?

She was afraid she was going to be arrested

because she is a green card holder and she didn't think that it was right to be listening to this show.

Good on you.

And don't burn flags while you're at it, Cockney girl.

Then we always have a special thank you for people of means who are able to support us in the level of Hollywood producers.

And it's not for everybody.

And we're just as happy with whatever value you want to give back to the show, noagendadonations.com.

It's super simple.

But if you are able to support us with $200 or more, we reward you with an associate executive producer title.

It is a true Hollywood title, which means you can use it anywhere Hollywood style credits are recognized, including imdb.com, which is legit.

And if anyone questions you, of course, we will go to bat for you.

We'll vouch for you.

Now, if you are able to support us with $300 or more, you get an executive producer title.

And of course, the same adheres to that.

And in both cases, we will read your note.

We also have our Secretary General

limited promotion.

Is it limited?

How are you limiting this?

We should limit that.

But everything gets limited.

Okay.

Our limited promotion, where you can become a Secretary General of anything you want, which is no different from Secretary General of NATO, Secretary General of the UN.

You can be a Secretary General, and it comes with an official Secretary General.

What is the term for this certificate, this?

Proclamation.

Is it a proclamation?

A proclamation.

There you go.

Proclamation.

Exactly.

Hereby proclaim.

And one will go to Paul from Bellevue, Washington, and he sent us a note, which I have here.

He sent us $1,000 and says, Dear Adam and John, please refer to me as Tall Paul of Bellevue, Washington.

Encloses $1,000 to insonite me as Sir Tall Paul.

If not too late, I'd like to be Secretary General of Alpental at Squalamy.

Snoke, Snowqualamy.

Snoqualamy.

Snoqualamy.

Alpental at Snoqualamy.

They're just doing this because I have to do it, and it's tongue twister.

That's why these people do that.

It's just mean.

Deduce me, please.

You've been deduced,

and he wants some company-selling karma, which he needs.

Well, we'll give you some company-selling karma.

He says, Thank you very much from Tall Paul, soon to be uh, sir, uh, Tall Paul.

Uh, of will he be a secretary general?

So, thank you very much.

You've got karma

now.

We have Commodore SX-64

in Granger, Texas,

Texas.

555.

Okay.

Commodore SX64 here.

I tried to do it in Texas accent talking through my teeth.

This donation should make me a Secretary General and a knight at the same time.

I assume I could be Sir Command Commodore S64, Secretary General of Lake Granger.

Granger?

Is it Granger?

Lake Granger area and Milam County.

Where is that?

Milam County?

It's not too far from here.

If you could find it in your heart to send good paying jobs, Karma, for me.

Good paying jobs, Karma.

And the young family of fishermen that have made, oh, he must be on the coast.

Yes.

They made the move north to dry land.

Oh, he's okay.

No, he's not on the coast.

He's in dry land now.

That'd be great.

And Lou Patkin's help has been involved as well.

Wow.

Nice.

Nice.

Lou Patkin.

She's also helping

Brennan,

who got laid off from Chevron, who's leaving the state.

So now the kids are moving back in with you?

No, they got a place.

I have a deep manufacturing background, and the turnaround to they also give him six-month severance.

Turnaround to a productive society is going to take a long time after all, at least the last three generations have been conditioned by the

education system that makes anything physical a bad thing.

No shop class.

That will have to be purged out of the communal mind.

The young people that we see today lack the basics of anything unless their daddy taught them.

No shop class, no trade school, just PhDs in basket weaving.

Media deconstruction excluded.

Of course.

Keep up the good work and to to john if you liked the brawling try borsett san marzano no tomatoes involved thank you and that's another uh a morrow obviously i'll check it out thank you sx64 jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

On to a new name, Augusto Andrioli from Berlin, Deutschland.

Hello, Deutschland.

Here's the Hoff.

Brazilian Italian living in Berlin, Britalian.

I just made a new name.

For 11 years here in Germany.

Hit in the mouth by Sir Tal from Berlin in January of 2024.

I've replaced my Netflix subscription by a No Agenda sustaining donation since April of 2024.

Yes.

Thank you very much.

Thank you for your courage and for the weekly dose of sanity check, deconstruction, and laughs you always provide.

It is truly essential public service that should reach more people.

I'd like to be called Secretary General of Sao Paulo.

I'd like Trump's job karma.

I might have a chance to work for a year in the USA.

Plus relationship karma.

My girlfriend and I broke up.

I turned 50 on August 29th, 1975, Gen Xer.

Four more years, says Augusto Andrioli.

Jobs, jobs, jobs.

You've got karma.

Let me just check, make sure he's on the birthday list here.

Augusto.

Is Augusto on?

While you're doing that, I'm going to read Matthew Martell in Brummel,

Pennsylvania.

I'm sure I'm not pronouncing that right.

$350.58,

$333 plus fees.

Here's my September donation with a little extra to cover Adam's part of the dinner.

Visit martellhardware.com.

Don't forget to use the coupon code Brunetti33 for an additional 10% off your order.

JCD Hot Pockets is requested.

Oh, somehow I didn't see that one.

JCD Hot Pockets.

Hold on a second.

Where's my hot pockets?

There we go.

Hot Pockets.

There we go.

I could just do that.

Hot Pockets.

Brunetti.

You saw the email exchange.

Oh, yeah, you and him are you dudes should get a room.

Yeah,

he's mean.

He says horrible things.

Oh, he's a producer.

He's just a typical suit.

He feels no obligation to follow a convention.

I told him, what did I tell him?

I thought it was a pretty good line.

What was it?

You had a good line?

Yeah, I think so.

I told him,

I said, maybe you should just go make another movie, 50 Shades of Yawn, more beige.

More beige bonnet.

I saw that.

I thought that was a good line, too.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, I did.

And then you had some beige comment, which I didn't think it was.

I think

you could have stopped.

I shot past.

Okay, I went to the past.

You overshot the joke.

I overshot the joke.

Yeah, you got to be careful.

Sir Cretschman is in Richmond, Indiana.

And let me see.

Also, let me get that one.

Oh, thank you.

And I say that because of the next one.

Sir Cretchman's in Richmond, Indiana, and he writes in, he came in with

that.

He came in with 333.33.

He says, in the morning, gents, I hope this letter finds you well.

Ha ha.

May this donation serve as the beginning of my quest to become a baron, as well as the excuse to use my new night ring with sealing wax.

I'm delighted to inform you that I finally took Adam's advice and bought my first quarter cow last year.

Very good.

I never knew how delicious a cut of beef could taste until I had one from a local farmer.

Hello.

Very good.

Very good.

Next time, get a half.

Well, you don't even have to do that.

By the way.

But it depends on whether you want the flanks or not.

But also, just get ground beef from them.

I mean, ground beef is so universally usable for meatballs, for burgers, for meatloaf, and it's a lot cheaper than anything you can buy anywhere else.

With all this talk about weight loss drugs, he continues in the media today.

I was amazed to find that beef is clearly the best option on the market.

After primarily eating beef for three months, I was astonished.

You don't have to plow and you must not have a freezer.

I was astonished at my weight loss and feeling of fullness.

It was with this newfound knowledge that I created meat jaro.

Instead of injecting munjaro under your skin, how about injecting meat jaro directly into your mouth?

A delicious local farm raised cut of beef.

The best part is, you don't need health insurance to buy it in.

It's 100% safe and effective.

Meat Jaro, trademarks, common side effects, sudden death for patients with alpha gal syndrome,

extreme depression and anxiety when taken by vegans or those suffering from anthropomorphism, increased masculinity, wealth, and social status as a side effect.

And

taint cancer.

Can I please get a massive dumps?

Shut up, it's science and goat karma.

Thank you for your courage, Sir Kretschman of the White Water Valley.

They did dumps.

They call them dumps.

Big, massive dumps.

Shut up already.

Science.

You've got

karma.

Thank you.

Made me laugh.

He has a good letter.

He also has a very nice signature.

Well, unfortunately,

we have, as we say in the old country,

because you thought that the next one would be really long, but you missed Joe Spry from Savannah, Georgia, who says, no jingles, no note.

Joe Spry in Savannah, Georgia, which leaves you with the next note.

I can't read it because it's off the spreadsheet.

Aaron Duvall from Walnut, Kansas, our first associate executive producer.

By the way, Joe was 333.

Thank you.

Aaron is 24568.

This is my first monetary donation, so please deduce it.

You've been dedouched.

I am sending this note to say just how grateful my family and I are for this community.

It is said quite often on this show that connection is protection.

Few people understand just how true that really is.

For those who didn't know, my family's home suffered a fire in the upstairs on St.

Patrick's Day.

We got extremely lucky.

There was no structural damage, but we did lose the upstairs to smoke, the downstairs to water, and most of all of our belongings.

To keep this note from being egregiously long, because so many of you have stepped forward, I will just say thank you to all of you who donated or pooled donations for our cause.

My family is forever grateful.

I want to personally thank you, Adam, for sharing the GoFundMe link on X.

That share resulted in a $1,000 donation that might have brought me to tears.

It has been a slow process, but by the end of this week, we will finally be back at home.

Again, thank you, Gitmonation, and the NA adjacent communities for coming together in our time of need.

Connection really is protection.

Jingles, Goat Karma for all.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Be safe, Aaron Duvall, aka Weirdo.

You've got

Karma.

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That's a pretty good one.

RMP, and he's got his number there, which proves that he's got a license.

I'm now qualified for knighthood.

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and they're all long.

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Small, medium,

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Our formula is this:

we go out, we hit people in the mouth.

Man, we've talked about a lot of stuff, but we haven't talked about important stuff.

Then I did want to talk about some.

In particular, what's going on over in the EUs.

The first thing, as expected, and yes, some would say predicted,

the military, I'm sorry, the war economy of the EU is cranking up.

And now that Germany has no no other economy, we're going to have to make the young people serve in the army, in this Bundeswehr, and of course it's all going to be voluntary, don't worry.

The bill aims to boost German firepower with 80,000 new soldiers and 150,000 new reservists through a new voluntary military service scheme.

We're now really approaching this task with the declared target of having 260,000 soldiers in Germany.

And we want to achieve this target.

My goal is that Germany, due to its size and economic strength,

is the country that must have the strongest conventional army in NATO on the European side.

The bill would introduce opt-in military service for young Germans with improved pay and conditions to entice new recruits.

And to prepare for war and the automatic re-implementation of conscription, the bill includes a national census of young people's readiness to serve.

All young Germans would receive a questionnaire as of next January to assess their fitness, skills, and willingness, compulsory for men, but voluntary for women.

And as of July 2027, 18-year-old men would undergo a mandatory physical exam, whether they opt for military service or not.

The bill still needs to be voted in Parliament, but its announcement comes just months after Germany passed a whopping 500 billion Euro spending bill to fund infrastructure and defence industry investments.

We not only need a well-equipped well-equipped force,

which we are working hard to achieve and have been doing so for two and a half years without stopping, but we also need a Bundeswehr with sufficient personnel.

Only then will the Terrans as a whole be truly credible vis-à-vis Russia.

There it is, because you got to be afraid of Russia for the rest of your lives, young people.

Yes, conscription can be possible in this bill.

We'll see if it passes.

And this is all part of who is going to have boots on the ground in Ukraine.

Will there be boots on the ground?

What will the Article 5-like provisions be?

Well, for that answer, we go to our Canadian Canadian SME subject matter expert, Andrew Risoulis.

My guy.

Let me just go first to the boots on the ground option, the guarantees.

The most important thing.

And there's a lot of circular discussion going on here.

You know, people saying

the Russians have no say on what NATO does or Western powers do.

The point is, they do because they have to agree to a ceasefire or or a peace in which case those forces could in theory come into play so the russians have repeatedly said that's not going to happen and unless they change their minds it's not going to happen so now let's go on with that one a bit there so it's circular the russians want like a un security council thing and uh ukraine wants boots on the ground some kind of a guarantee a prime minister of course saying that's a possibility now the italians have floated an interesting idea which has not got much press, but Maloney at the White House on Monday brought it up on the table.

And that's essentially an idea that Ukraine might get Article V typed by certain countries of the Western Alliance, not part of NATO, but independently, bilaterally.

But the key thing is no boots on the ground.

So the Italians are saying, put in the guarantees.

You're going to have forces not in Ukraine that are positioned to go in in case there's a breakdown in the ceasefire or the settlement, but you actually use a Norway option.

Norway is a member of NATO, but has no NATO troops on the ground, never has.

It's part of Norway's law.

They allow for training, they allow for pre-positioning.

It's a way of not antagonizing the Russians and the Soviets back in the Cold War days.

There you go.

So we may just have boots in every individual country just waiting to hang around.

And on this,

particularly these Scandinavian NATO countries, I caught a YouTube of a guy named Stanislav

Kapivnik.

Stanislav Kapivnik.

I think he's Russian, was Russian, is Russian, I don't know.

But he had Colonel Wilkerson on.

Yeah.

Have you seen Colonel Wilkerson?

Yeah, he's been, we've clipped him before.

So he had, and I just have two, two relatively short clips.

Because we're always talking about the elites and how we're doing this, and the CIA,

they're the ones that go in, and the economic hitman.

And he was apparently part of

the real danger, which we were warned of by General Eisenhower, President Eisenhower,

the military-industrial complex.

And in this,

are you listening to

doing a different podcast?

Are you on with

Chanel?

Are you doing a hit?

Are you doing a hit?

What do you do?

Are you literally just browsing around while I'm talking?

No.

Well, what was that?

Something auto-started.

Yeah, because you're browsing around.

You're just browsing around during the show.

No, I am not.

I'm listening because I want to hear about Wilkerson.

Turns out the military-industrial complex is responsible for a lot.

It seems the Europeans are ever more hell-bent on

widing this, making it as wide as possible.

It does.

I think Meritz and Macron and Starmer in particular, but other leaders too, following in their wake, so to speak.

I think they're all going to be gone very shortly.

I don't think any of them are long live because I think their people are going to understand eventually what's going on.

I know people don't believe me, but in 2002, I was there when we started buying governments.

We bought newspapers, we bought editors, we bought reporters, we bought politicians, we bought people who would be Jen Stoltenbergs.

We bought people to change, and we didn't do it the way the CIA did it in Chile, for example, in 68, 69, and 70.

and turn them all against Allende.

We didn't do it for that reason because we disguised it.

We disguised it by weaponizing liberal democracy.

And we sent in non-governmental organizations.

We sent in U.S.

aid.

We sent other people in.

We call them quay hogs, some of them, quasi-government operations.

We sent them in, and

they had a mission, and they didn't even know why they were carrying out their mission in many events.

Their mission was to democratize these people and to democratize them in a way that would make them want to be members of NATO.

Yes, quayogs, of course.

The DIA is much more sneaky than the CIA, and they also did Ukraine.

We reap this.

People ask me, why would a country that had a year, years and years long history of neutrality, think the Scandinavian countries, for example,

even Norway, yeah, okay, and Trump, so we had some Marine Pompkas and things like that, but not a member of NATO, not officially a member of NATO.

Why would these countries come in?

We bought them.

We got them in.

And then we put the fine cap on it.

We created Ukraine to make them grow increasingly fearful of Russia because we knew when we created Ukraine in our image that Russia would find that unacceptable and eventually would attack.

And they did.

And so then we said, well, Joe Biden got this one.

You know, oh, he'll take Lithuania next and Estonia and Latvia and then Poland.

You know, this is, we did this.

We did this.

History books will show that we did this 20, 30 years from now.

I believe him.

But we said this already on the show.

Well, not

talking about Brennan being in the

Madonna.

But he's Defense Intelligence Agency, not Central Intelligence Agency.

Well, that makes you wonder exactly why Brennan was in Madan.

He's CIA.

He's for the party.

For the chicks, for the party, for the champagne.

I completely believe it.

He does not look like a party animal to me.

The DIA, they are the ones.

And they're the ones on social media.

They have a whole unit.

Their whole nudge unit.

That's all defense.

And that's what we were warned of, of the military-industrial complex.

That's why I play these clips.

I believe that.

I believe it was Defense Intelligence Agency.

That's what Laura Logan's husband did.

He literally, now he says, I can talk about it now because it's past whatever time.

I was psyops, man.

I was psyops.

DIA psyops.

I believe it.

I think that you're starting to act like a Fredericksburger.

I am not convinced that the DIA is as omnipotent

as he says,

you know, or anybody does, because I think they're the boneheads of the group.

I don't know.

They probably maybe got it started, but they had to have Brennan and the boys go in there to really take care of it.

You don't think that Victoria Newland's got anything to do with the DIA?

I really doubt it.

State Department.

I don't know.

The State Department's different.

That's another group of spooks.

So it's a whole bunch of spooks.

But I'm.

Well, they're all trying to take credit for each other's work.

Well, there's that.

For sure, there's that.

But there it is.

We bought off editors, we bought off newspapers.

The CIA process.

Now, he demeans what they did, what the CIA did in Chile, as if it was like a one-off.

Well, look what they do, sucks, and we do a better job because we bought all these guys.

I think this is all I know.

All I know is the CIA was recruiting woke children.

So

I don't think that the new CIA is all that impressive.

I'm withholding judgment.

not considering, I don't think the DIA is that impressive if you're going to think that way.

I think they're full of shit.

How about that?

Okay, that's Dvorak, California.

Go get them, boys.

You won't be able to get out of Texas with their electric cars.

You'll find them next to the heroin dealer.

It's easy to locate.

Just ask around.

Just ask the hotties.

They'll point you in the right direction.

All right.

Well, I thought it was a nice little series.

I was quite sure.

I think it was enjoyable.

I'm not arguing about the clip or the quality.

I'm just, I think this is the analysis that I'm complaining about.

I'm quite proud of myself.

Hey, Benny,

dig up a Wilkerson clip.

Yeah, I guess so.

So there's a meltdown.

There's a meltdown in Magaland, everybody.

Meltdown in Magaland.

Is this what you voted for?

Yeah, that's right.

Did you vote for this?

Frau Ingraham is mad.

Mr.

Secretary, with all due respect, how is allowing 600,000 students from the communist country of China putting America first?

Well, the president's point of view is that what would happen if you didn't have those 600,000 students is that you'd emptied them from the top, all the students would go up to better schools, and the bottom 15% of universities and colleges would go out of business in America.

So his view is he's taking a rational economic view, which is classic Donald Trump looking at higher education and saying

until we modify that.

That just helped Harvard and UCLA and UCal Berkeley.

And

y'all help in those schools.

Why?

They're like,

you know,

basically factories of anti-American propaganda.

Now they're getting a big influx of cash because of the Chinese students.

I mean,

I know President Trump has always been very pro-Chinese student.

I just don't understand it for the life of me.

Those are 600,000 spots that American kids won't get.

Well, I tell tell you what, I'm involved in.

I'm involved in changing the H-1B program, right?

We're going to change that program because that's terrible, right?

We're going to change the green card.

You know, we give green cards.

The average American makes $75,000 a year, and the average green card recipient $66,000.

So we're taking the bottom quartile.

Like, why are we doing that?

That's why Donald Trump is going to change it.

That's the gold card that's coming.

And that's we're going to start picking the best people to come into this country.

It's time for that to change.

I think we, our American engineering students, need to be given the first roll at every job.

And I think they're brilliant when given half a chance.

But, Mr.

Secretary, I know you're juggling a lot of balls over there.

We really appreciate your explaining a lot of this to us.

Thank you.

Well, first of all, is the average wage in America $75,000?

I think it's lower.

It's a good thing about you.

Ask your buddy there.

What, the DIA guy?

No, your machine.

I'm not going to ask my machine that.

Ask her.

Oh, you're a little bit.

What's the average wage of an American?

I'm going to have to change her tone so she doesn't sound so sexy.

You're all kind of jitty about it.

Oh, are you getting worked up about it?

Hold on a second.

What is the average income in the United States of America?

The average annual income in the U.S.

is around $62,000.

Boom.

Told you.

Lies.

Yes.

Howard Luttnig lies.

So the thing about the, you know, I know I think we've determined, or at least I am totally convinced that you see Berkeley as a

stronghold of CIA operations to recruit foreign students.

I mean, Ling Ling and Ding Dong over there who got caught in North Korea right out of the journalist.

Ling Ling and Ding Dong.

I forgot about them.

You remember them?

Yes, Ling Ling.

Ling Long Sing Song Ding Dong.

Yes.

And so

Berkeley has a tonnage of Chinese nationals, always has, even when I was a student, which was years before any of this started to happen.

But now they, and they can, they try to recruit them is what they're trying to do.

You know,

you get a couple of thousand of these guys, and maybe one of them will turn, you know, and be a good agent, a spook for

the agency going back to China because they all go back to China.

And so I don't, I think that's the reason for this.

600,000?

I mean, if they're all getting a gold card and spending a million, I can see that.

I mean, all right, now you know what you're getting.

You're getting true party members.

But MAGA not happy.

Is this what

exactly what you said?

Is this what you voted for?

Is this what you voted for?

I love that.

That's great.

Everyone always.

Yeah.

But it's really true.

There's a large segment of people who are just continuously disappointed in President Trump.

Continuously.

They were disappointed from the get-go.

They never liked the guy in the first place.

No, no, no.

They don't like anything he does.

They were hopeful.

They were hopeful that.

Evil for what?

What do they expect the guy to do?

He's going to expose the elites, the pedoes, drain the swamp, all this stuff.

And he's done none of it, I tell you.

None of it.

They're just telling what people are saying.

I understand their disappointment.

Be practical.

I'm not talking to you.

I'm talking about to them.

Oh, okay.

Let's go to this.

These clips.

I got four of them.

Nat cast one post.

What is this?

It's a series of clips.

Okay.

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, the company is set up because they're going to get handed a whole boatload of money and then they're going to turn around and allocate it to specific kinds of research.

Is that the first research?

Oh, I'm sorry.

Okay.

I won't complain about your naming, but okay, it was not.

Yes, here's the thing.

Yeah, they all say one, but it's

not.

You know, you can complain about the naming because it lacks

Satan consistently.

Can you tell me?

I agree with you.

Before we get to it, you have two number threes.

Which one do I play when we get to it?

You determine that.

I'm going to have to look at the time codes.

Oh, we look at the date.

Here we go.

One of them is the number four.

Okay.

Commerce Secretary Howard Luttnick announced that he's clawing back billions of dollars earmarked by the Biden administration for a company called Natcast.

What the heck is Natcast?

Well, it's basically a middleman that decides who gets pieces of the government fiscal pie, specifically cash set aside in the Chips and Science Act for semiconductor research.

In a letter obtained by the Post, Luttnick said that he was canceling a multi-billion dollar contract that funneled taxpayer dollars through Natcast, which again was created by the Biden administration, with a hunk of money, and we're talking billions here, that was pushed through just a few days before the former president left office.

The nonprofit selection committee was made up of former Biden administration alums, and according to Lutnick, it effectively cut the current administration out of the mix entirely.

Joining me now, the New York Post reporter who broke this story, Washington Bureau Chief Josh Christensen.

So, Josh, it's pretty rare that we talk about something on the podcast that no one has ever heard of.

Why does this company, Natcast, exist?

I mean, who runs it?

Well, Natcast was an invention of the Biden administration.

It was something that was cooked up, you know, the last two years of the Biden administration and basically crammed full of staff from departing members of the Commerce Department and other allies of the admin.

And it was a nonprofit that was essentially set up to receive $11 billion worth of taxpayer funding in order to transmit it towards semiconductor research and development.

Yeah,

this is a big controversy.

This well, what's interesting to me is this is not being discussed much.

I never heard of NatCast.

No, I never heard of that.

And here we go with another bullcrapped operation.

It was set up as a front for money laundering.

The way I see it, this is just money going to somebody's pockets.

We don't need the semiconductor companies to make enough money that they can do their own damn research.

And most of the research in semiconductors nowadays is done out of Holland by that company that makes the UV

edges.

ASML.

Those guys, yeah, those guys are the hot shots in this regard.

These semiconductor companies, all they do is design chips and they don't need research money.

It's just bull crap.

Okay.

Okay.

So if I'm understanding this correctly, the company is set up because they're going to get handed a whole boatload of money and then they're going to turn around and allocate it to specific kinds of research research involving semiconductors.

Okay.

I kind of have that square away.

I kind of have that squared away now.

So that doesn't sound,

I don't know, weird to me.

Can you explain to me what the issue is and what is Letnik saying the problem is with NatCast getting that money and then allocating it as they see fit?

The main problem is the lack of federal oversight and the fact that such an entity, which has existed in the past and will certainly exist again, in which a private group is stood up by the government in order to distribute funding.

Any kind of law will have different sorts of funding initiatives, often flow to state entities, nonprofits, that sort of thing.

But in this case, the law, the CHIPS Act, which was one of the big bills that Biden passed during his admin, did not set up any sort of independent extra-governmental entity to take all that money and throw it out the door.

And Lutnik is saying, well, we have no clue where all this went.

And in particular, what we know for a fact is it was $11 billion in total, but $7.4 billion worth of that went out the door in the last four days of the administration with no oversight.

Oh.

And so he's wanting to, you know, call them to account for this and say, well, you know, where's this money gone?

We don't know.

We have no way of looking into it.

And so I'm voiding this agreement as it stands currently.

Okay.

So on the is that what you voted for side of the equation?

The complaint is what kind of capitalism is this where you're taking a stake in companies.

I did not hear anyone say what kind of capitalism is this where you're giving people money.

It's both wrong.

Well, I say if you're going to give them money, at least

get something.

Well, I mean, I'm not a defender of the idea of buying chunks of Intel, which is most people see as a failing company.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Unless you know something's going to happen and it's going to profit the government.

Insider trading by the government.

Interesting.

That would be okay.

Yeah,

that would be great.

But do you think that's possible?

I don't.

No.

Because I don't think the government's that skilled.

But.

This whole NAT cast thing and throwing, this is too much money being just thrown around aimlessly.

This is ridiculous waste.

But it was already thrown around.

It was already thrown around.

Yeah, well,

everyone's gone nuts.

Yes.

So now I've looked at the timestamps, and I believe the two-minute 11 clip will be clip four.

Could that be right?

We have a one-minute clip next, and here we go.

What happens to the money now?

Where does this money go?

Especially if there's a legal challenge.

I mean, is it just sitting there in limbo?

I mean, it was kind of, I mean, as far as I could tell, they were saying that up until 2034, there were plans to have some sorts of payments annually.

So it's unclear whether the voiding of it would then allow them to claw it back entirely or whether they've already tried to send most of it out, even from NatCast, right?

So it's even a step further away from the government's coffers.

But yeah, it's something that I'm sure Lutnik's team was talking about with them today after they received the letter.

As with the EPA case, you know, you see there's many steps in the process before the government can actually just get the money back because it's already gone through so much to get out of taxpayers' hands and into the pockets of special interests or whoever might be in line for it.

This is a facet of the changing of the garden government that I never actually knew about or thought of, but it makes a lot of sense.

So, a very great story.

Thank you for breaking it and coming on the podcast to talk about it, Josh Christensen.

Thanks so much.

Sounds like we did them out of order.

I think that probably concludes it.

I don't think you need to play the long clip.

Okay, but just so you know, the long clip was done at

8.20 and 41 seconds, and the shorter clip was 8.20 and 20 seconds.

So I just presumed.

I think that may have been the chip time.

Probably.

Yeah, so it doesn't make any sense.

All right.

Well, I'd have to go to the original files.

But I think that summarizes the problem is we have another waste of taxpayers' money, and you wonder why we're in debt $35 trillion.

Ah, but that's all ending.

That's all ending.

Oh, are you going to be here?

Any minute now?

Any minute?

I, of course, watch

the Trump show, the cabinet meetings.

Highly interesting and a half-hour Trump.

Oh, I love it.

Extravaganza.

I can't get enough of it.

Wait, the set it up, set it up, set it up, set up.

Here is NPR.

We'll set it up for you.

Did anything else stand out to you about this very, very long cabinet meeting?

Well, it was very, very long, according to fact-based, which

acts these things.

It was the longest Trump event ever, longer than any other cabinet meeting, and it was effusive.

Cabinet secretaries took turns showering Trump with praise, like the labor secretary, who said Trump should come over to the department to see the banner they now have hanging on the side of the building of his, quote, big, beautiful face.

Oh, my goodness.

Well, that's what NPR does with your money.

We'll just actually listen to what was said.

This is now Scott Besant, who, by the way, I should mention this, is part of the A-gaze.

Have you heard about this?

The A-gaze?

Nope.

You've got me on this one.

Yes, yes.

A gays?

Yes, that's a news.

So he's gay?

I didn't, he's not gay.

Oh, Besant.

Yeah, yeah.

Besant's gay.

Oh, okay.

Besides, okay.

A gays?

Yeah, it's called the A-Gays.

Here, New York Times, I got the article for you.

Donald Trump's, oh, it's not loading now, of course, for a moment.

I don't know why that's happening.

Hold on.

I had it on archive.org, but for some reason, the New York Times probably took it down.

Here we go.

Donald Trump's big gay government.

Big gay government?

Yes.

It's his big because he has a lot of gay guys in there.

And, oh, shoot, man.

I'm sorry.

Now the

now I can't get to the article.

Oh, that sucks so bad.

Let me see.

They blocked it.

They did block it.

Well, let me see.

Here's another version of it.

So they talk about the A gays.

They're mostly out.

They're A dash gays.

Yes,

as a top of the top dogs, the top dogs.

It's going to be a capital A.

Capital A dash, capital G A Y S.

They're mostly out.

They're proud to work for President Donald Trump, and they have big jobs inside or alongside this administration.

They have big what?

They have big jobs.

Big jobs inside or alongside this administration.

They wield influence all over town from the Pentagon to the State Department to the White House to the Kennedy Center.

We're like Visa.

We're everywhere you want to be.

The most powerful out-gay man in the Trump administration is Besant.

There are a handful of others in the Treasury Department.

Other A-gays include Tony Fabrizio, the president's longtime longtime pollster, Trent Morse, outgoing deputy assistant to the president, Richard Grinnell, who was put in charge of the Kennedy Center, and Jacob Hellberg, an undersecretary of state.

These are just some.

There are lots of other lesser-known men who make up the tribe.

This is a great article.

Let me read another paragraph.

They're overwhelmingly white.

Oh, it's the white gays.

The white gays.

There's something bad.

We knew there was something wrong with them.

They tend to have a certain kind of look.

Close-cropped haircuts, window pane suits.

They're not the type to be telling anyone their pronouns or using the word queer.

No, because they're normal guys who just happen to like guys.

They don't have to

be weird and queer.

And they aren't the least bit offended that the leader of their party continues to stoke a moral panic about transgender people.

Exactly.

They're gay.

How is this a shocker to anybody?

The New York Times.

They're gay, but they're still Republicans.

This is fantastic.

Keep reading.

Really?

You want me to keep reading?

Let me see if I can.

The gay men who work for him are keenly aware they're in hostile territory, surrounded by other gay men who consider themselves deluded traitors or worse.

At gay bars around town than on dating apps, they are either iced out or confronted about the things this president has said and done.

He cut AIDS relief around the world and HIV vaccine research and funding for LGBTQ plus suicide prevention services.

Not true.

His defense secretary announced during Pride Month that the Navy vessel named after Harvey Milk will be renamed as an outrage amongst the gay community.

Perhaps most worrying for many gay people is

how the conservative Supreme Court has become thanks to Trump.

Could same-sex marriage go the way of Roe?

It's not out of the question.

This is all supposition at this point.

Gay article.

Gay translation.

In other words, the New York Times article that you started reading with some actual information, although it's an upside-down pyramid the way I do journalism, but that's okay.

It shows that it just starts to fall apart and go into supposition and opinion.

Gay Trump appointees interviewed for this article, some of whom said they weren't authorized to speak on the record, dismiss such opprobrium.

Opprobrium.

What does that mean?

Opprobrium.

Opprobrium.

What does that mean?

You can either ask your friend, I can almost define it, but I can't with any real accuracy.

Something that brings disgrace.

Okay.

Public disgrace.

Dismiss such opprobrium as overheated liberal whining.

They argue that the battle for gay rights has basically been won, and there's never been a Republican as friendly to the gays as Trump.

He's a friendly, gay lover guy.

Did they say the gays?

No.

They said gay.

Did I say the gays?

No, they argue.

They argue for the battle for gay rights has basically been been one.

There's never been a Republican as friend, yeah, as friendly to the gays as Trump.

Yeah, there you go.

The gays.

The gays.

Did you write this for the New York Times?

Own up to it.

This is a great article.

I just love the whole A gays.

Yeah.

And you know what?

They're just good-looking men who are just dressing nicely, doing their thing, not walking around going, I'm gay.

Yes.

Surprised.

They're gays, not fruits.

Surprised?

What?

New York Times?

Surprised.

Anyway, here's the wish they were.

Here's the top A gay Scott Besson telling us we don't have to worry about the deficit.

On the international front, you have leveled the international trading system whereby countries took advantage of us, and that's over.

It's over.

The Treasury Department isn't is taking in record tariff revenues that I had been saying was running at a rate of 300 billion a year.

You chastise me for saying that it's not that that number is too low and as usual you're right

that we had a substantial jump from July to August and I think we're going to see a bigger jump from August to September.

So I think we could be on our way

well over half a trillion, maybe

towards a trillion dollar number.

This administration, your administration has made a meaningful dent in the budget deficit uh the average budget deficit during this term is 26 percent less than the last 12 months under bottom and even the cbo and we don't agree with cbo on everything as you said

last friday on a summer friday had to admit that they believe over the next 10 years the budget deficit will be 4 trillion lower than they had previously scored.

4 trillion, 3.3 trillion of tariff income, 700 billion of lower interest cost.

And you know, I would expect that that number could go up from here.

Yeah, four trillion dollars.

Woo!

It's gonna be great.

We'll only have 32 trillion to go.

I'll believe it when I see it.

I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda.

Imagine all the people who could do that.

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

But before we go anywhere, we have a lot more show to go.

We have, of course, end of show mixes.

We have tip of the day.

And we always want to thank our supporters who supported us with value for the value they receive.

$50 and above left on the docket.

John will list them and name them for you.

Yeah, we're going to start with Hank there in $113.41.

Parts unknown.

And you can read this note because it's a knight note.

He's becoming a knight.

Enclosed is my donation of 80.08 and 33.33 for value, provided this should grant me an invitation to the roundtable.

As per my card sent earlier this year, along with other goodies, please knight me as Sir Hank Itami.

I would like to request for the roundtable a mega-sized cup of

grapefruit sour, along with a bowl of cookie and cream ice, cookie and cream ice cream.

Cookie, isn't it cookies and cream?

I ordered cookies and cream, so that's what you get.

Hopefully, there's enough steam to keep this show going maybe another four years.

Thank you for your attention to this matter, says Hank.

Dame Reed is up at the top of the list in Sparks, Nevada.

She comes in with $108.28, which is the date.

And she says, the newsletter has not been in my email since 8:20.

Shall I sign up again?

Yes, please sign up again just to make sure.

I don't know what that is.

We're having issues of all sorts.

Brendan Brown and Arnelia, Ohio.

Arnelia

or Amelia?

Amelia.

Amelia.

Amelia.

A house buying karma he wants.

We'll put that at the end for you.

And then he's, he, Brandon, says, please donate people.

No, we want money.

We want money.

Don't say water.

We don't want blankets.

We don't want water.

We don't want people.

We just want your cash.

Charlie Shelton, $100.

Mike Litke in Tinley Park, Illinois, $8008.

Happy birthday to, oh, I wonder if that's on the list.

Sir Matthew wishing you happy birthday to Sabrina Contreras on 829.

You'll check that.

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Whoops.

Sorry.

Andrew Foreman in Boca Ratan,

Rat's Tail,

Florida.

That's the mouth of the rat, not the tail.

I thought it was rat boca.

The butt of the rat.

Rat Boca rat.

Mouth of the rat.

Well, rats are involved in Florida, 6331.

And he wants some jobs.

Carmen will give give you that at the end.

Quick question for John.

When are you going to be back on Twitter next?

And Inquiring Minds want to know?

Probably never.

Wesley D.

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Another birthday donation.

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And there's Sir Laffalot with 5809, another nighting donation, which you should read part of at least.

Actually, it's a long note that shouldn't be in the middle of a a donation segment like this.

It's actually for a damehood for his German shepherd dog, Shona.

She was five years old when Katrina hit.

We had to evacuate with my parents, my 18-month-old son and wife.

Our house in Metairie was destroyed like so many Metairis.

Thank you.

We evacuated to Charlotte, North Carolina.

Once a month, I would drive down to New Orleans to help my parents and friends to rebuild.

During this time, my wife and son were alone in our little apartment in Shona.

with Shona.

She was the best protector they could have.

I would like to dedicate this damehood to Shona, the protector of Katrina survivors.

Now she can join me, Sir Lafalot, and Dame Maggie, our rescue lab, at the roundtable.

I still have to work on a knighthood for my first dog, Shelby, and my second dog, Trixie.

I hope to get that done before your exit strategy comes to fruition.

I've been listening since the very first show.

I think John's first tip of the day was to buy black underwear.

Back then, you were discussing the HEMA underwear.

Yes,

but that was white.

I met John at one of the first meetups in Biloxi, Mississippi, a few years, no,

MS, yes, Mississippi, a few years ago, and someday hope to meet Adam in person as well.

I apologize for the long note, but I wanted to thank you for being a constant in my life during some trying times and providing much-needed laughs.

Sincerely, sir, laugh a lot.

It was worth reading the note.

Thank you very much.

Yeah, it was a good note.

Good note.

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Vance

Wharton in Norman, Oklahoma, 5272.

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Eichen or Aiken and Iken or Aiken.

Aiken, South Carolina.

Aiken is 80.

71st birthday, 5272.

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And now we've gotten down to the $50 donations.

I'm just going to read the name and location, except for the Richard Gardner, who's in New York City,

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There's Richard Gardner.

And I think he's in New York.

It's Andrew, but you always say that.

What?

You always say Richard's in New York, but that's Andrew Gardner in New York.

Oh, where's Richard?

I don't know.

Richard, tell us where you are.

I always, oh, it's Andrew Gardner that's in New York, but I always say Richard is.

Well, maybe he likes thinking he's in New York.

Always.

Don't you remember?

Don't you believe me?

Go bingit.io.

See?

See, people, that's what I have to deal with.

Ridicule.

Uh-huh.

Ox other.

Wow.

What a name.

It's a great thing.

Ox Otherix.

Ox Otherix on the stick for you, everybody.

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It's the first day birthday

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He celebrates on today.

Also, Malcolm Riley, happy birthday to his pops.

He turned 71 today.

And Malcolm Riley, happy birthday to his baby brother, turns 31 today.

How about that?

Hey, Andre Mackey turns 18 on the 29th.

How about I remember when he was born?

That's crazy.

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Also added to the list, Augusto Andrioli tomorrow.

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And also happy birthday to Jared Bain and Wesley D.

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Happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

And now it's time, ladies and gentlemen, to roll them all out.

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Come on, man.

How about that jingle?

Where'd that come from?

What do you mean when when'd it come from?

Our producers, of course.

We got the best producing.

It's a dynamite jingle.

That tops it.

We got the best producers in the universe, man.

Well, that guy, whoever did that, you should credit.

Well, that is a very good question.

Hold on.

I should.

Hold on a second.

That goes through all this work.

We take all the credit.

Thank you very much.

We appreciate what you did.

And now I.

Oh, here it is.

Jeff Woodward.

There we go.

Jeff Woodward.

Jeff Woodward is an awesome dude.

All right.

We have a dame and a couple of nights.

That is very

10-pointer.

That is as good as it gets.

That is.

All right, grab your blade.

We got some knightings and damages.

I think that one right here.

That's beautiful.

Hey, actually, the dame is Shona, you know, woof, woof, and Paul of Bellevue, Washington, Commodore SX-64.

And Hank, hop up on the podem.

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And as always, a certificate of authenticity from your uncle boomers, Adam and John, here at the No Agenda Show.

Welcome to the roundtable.

No agenda.

Well, you heard it earlier: connection is protection.

You definitely get that at your No Agenda meetups.

You can find them all at noagendametups.com.

On Saturday, the Flight of the No Agenda, number 66.

This is 3.33 p.m.

in the sanctuary zone at the HMS Bounty.

in Los Angeles, California.

Leo Bravo hosting that.

He's one of the longest meetup hosters in, I think, No Agenda history.

Also on Saturday, the No Agenda Central Ohio meetup at 5.30 at Jackie O's in Columbus, Ohio.

And on Sunday, our next show day, the annual South Jersey Pig Roast Meetup, 5 o'clock.

That will be at Dam Wen's House in Medford Lakes, New Jersey.

So you do have to RSVP because it's somebody's home.

Damn Wen.

Damn Wens.

Maybe it's Dame.

Maybe the, maybe it was.

It has to be Dame.

I would have to say Dame Wen's house, yes.

You know, Jay is slipping.

She missed two birthdays.

They got spelling.

Is this because Brennan lost his job?

She's all freaked out.

What's going on?

I register a complaint.

I will pass it along.

Please do.

She's so sweet.

She's so good.

But we've got to be strict.

Spanking us back in.

Coming up in September, Madison, Alabama, Houston, Texas, Hofe Dorp in the Netherlands, South Slocan, British Columbia, Keyport, New Jersey, Oakland, California, Tilburg, the Netherlands.

And remember, October 11th, the big Fredericksburg, Texas meetup.

We're looking forward to seeing all of you there.

Find the Noah Gender Meetups at the NoAgendaMeetups.com calendar.

If you can't find one near you, start one yourself.

Easy and always a party.

Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

You wanna be where you won't be, triggered all hell aim.

You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

It's like a party.

Yeah, baby.

Big, big, big party.

Remember, send me those meetup reports.

We don't get them often enough.

Seems like you only have one ISO here.

I have one ISO.

You want to keep that for the end?

I got three.

You want to keep it for the end?

Yeah, go give you three.

Okay.

Lurgis Durka Durka Muhammad Jihad.

Durka Durka Durka Durka.

I'm sorry.

Here's another one.

Good job, guys.

That's not too bad.

Nice and clear.

Or this one.

Where the hell are these guys getting all of this?

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Those are my three entrants for end of show ISO.

Well, those are all three good ones, actually.

Thank you.

Especially the one.

Let's play that first one again.

Lurgis Durka Durka Muhammad Jihad.

Durka Durka Durka Durka.

Got nothing to do with anything.

No, that's why I like it so much.

It's really good, though.

Yeah, I just have a clip from a Hank Harrison New King of the Hill show.

No, here we go.

I don't believe this.

They're lying on the news.

Okay, I like that one.

I think you win.

You knew it.

That's why you only had one.

He's like, it's a shoe-in, and it's not even AI.

That is it, everybody.

Are you standing by for John's tip of the day?

He's ready to roll for you.

Great advice for you and me.

Just the tip with JCD.

And sometimes Adam.

Okay.

Okay.

So this is a screwball tip because I came across it because I'm reading somebody's sub stack column and they sell this stuff.

And I said, this is interesting.

So I looked into it.

And then I got irked by the fact that they're selling this stuff at like three times what you can buy it for any place in the world.

And so I got a little annoyed, but I looked at this.

This is a product.

This is a sugar, a sugar.

Sugar sugar.

Sugar, man.

sugar sugar this is a sugar

oh honey honey a sugar substitute

that is looks to be safe

not toxic it has all that it's and people should look this up do your own research but look this stuff up you can buy it everybody makes it because there's about three or four factories here and there that that produce it it's it's produced from as a it's a natural occurring substance that you can also extract from fructose.

So it's a factory-made product the way I see it.

And it's called L-ulose.

A-L-L-O.

I'm sorry, A-L-L-U-L-O-S-E.

A-L-L-U-L-O-S-E.

And

I'll read from

the Google here.

It's a rare natural sugar found in small quantities in certain fruits, like figs, for example, have this stuff.

And raisins, for some reason.

It offers the sweetness of fructose, yet is metabolically distinct.

It

does not affect glucose or insulin levels in any way, shape, or form.

So it's neutral on the body.

It has no calories, basically.

It's got really like a point-something calories.

And it tastes just like sugar, exactly the same.

But this is not a chemical, it's some kind of extract?

It's actually

the C3 epimer of fructose.

So it's

produced,

it's a chemical like sucrose and structure.

They're all chemicals at the end of the day.

You go ahead and you eat that.

I'll just have sugar.

Yeah, you can have your sugar.

Yeah,

which is a chemical,

by the way, if you haven't noticed.

Sugar is a chemical?

Yeah, of course it is.

It's sucrose.

Well, how about cane sugar?

It's extracted at a refinery.

How about if I just stick a sugar cane into something I want sweetened?

Is that okay?

That would be fine.

Or you could do what I like to do,

which is use maple syrup.

Oh, I love doing that.

For everything.

Do you know what I do with my maple syrup?

When I make salmon, and we get salmon.

special from somebody who's actually getting it from somewhere that's not from some farm.

So we have it only once a month, maybe.

So I will drizzle a little bit of maple syrup on the top, and then I will put on lemon pepper.

And then I do 12 minutes at 390 in the oven, and then five, because it's big pieces, five minutes under the broiler, 500.

Oh, man.

And then that maple syrup, it just comes to life.

And that's your recipe for overcooked salmon.

Now,

going back to this tip of the day,

do not pay more than this is not a cheap product.

That's why you don't see it in Diet Coke or anything.

So it's about $10 a pound.

Do not pay more than $10 a pound.

You should be able to get it even cheaper if you buy it in bulk.

Do not pay over $10 a pound, which you're just getting ripped off if that's the case.

But it's called Ellulose.

That's the tip of the day as a sugar substitute.

That is actually probably a good product.

There you go, everybody.

This is John's Tip of the Day.

Find them all at tipoftheday.net.

Great advice for you and me.

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Yes, Dana Bernetti, the cheapskate, cheapskate producer.

And that concludes our broadcast day with that fine tip of the day from John.

And my tip for overcooked salmon.

I don't think so.

These are big pieces.

I do not overcook my salmon.

Well, it's a big, giant, I guess.

They're big, giant pieces.

Big, giant, giant.

We don't miss Texas, man.

We don't mess around.

Hey, stay tuned to noagendastream.com because, you know, John doesn't like trollroom.io.

For the DH Unplugged podcast.

I have not heard this episode.

It's titled Jackson Holy.

Well, that promises to be interesting, and we shall be listening for that.

Also, end of show mix is classic from a friend who we haven't heard heard from in a long time, Sir Chris from Down Under.

And brand new from Sir Joe Joho, Sir Joho, singing about the British flag protest.

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I'm John C.

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Well, I watched TV with Danny LaRue who dressed for his own pleasure and we all saw De Catalon Bruce become Miss Caitlin Jenner.

I've never been to a White House ball sponsored by Big Pharma

or invited to a party that was hosted by Michelle Obama

Social justice moves too fast for me

Homophobia is the place to be

What is a woman's now up for debate

They say they're not gay, they're definitely not straight

use the right pronouns or you'll feel the hate

that's why the lady is a trance

male pattern ballist is under those curls

looks like a drag queen in her minen pearls

can't quite fit in with the rest of the girls.

That's why the lady is a trans.

She's got that excess

bodily hair,

something

down there

to choke a bloke from California with a fag neoclan.

That's why the lady is a trance.

Wave it high, wave it wide.

They can't silence what's inside.

Authorities don't wanna see

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Tommies frown and rulers glare,

but we still raise them in the air.

Pushed and bullied, still we stand.

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Raise it up, let the flags all fly.

They can't stop us, still they try.

Raise it up, let the whole horse see

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St.

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Union Jack is flying proud.

Scotland's blue and Ireland's green.

Whale still roars the dragon scene.

Bushed and bullying, still we stand.

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Raise it up, let the flags all fly.

They can't stop us, still they cry.

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Whale still roars the dragon's scene.

They don't like it, we don't care.

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