1786 - "Best Exit Strategies"

Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Thursday, July 31st, 2025.

This is your award-winning Get My Nation Media Assassination episode 1786.

This is No Agenda.

Looking for the exit and broadcasting almost live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number six.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm also almost live.

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill.

In the morning.

I know a lot of people are looking forward to this episode for a very long time.

Well, you've been high on this episode for some time.

I think it is maybe the funniest episode we've ever played.

I really think so.

And

right off the bat, I got to give props to

Sir Deanonymous

from Clip Genie, noagenda.clipgenie.com, also known as Bingit.io.

Because

ever since we introduced Bingitt.io, it's just been an amazing experience for people to go in and just think of ways that they can put together a best of show.

You know what I mean?

Especially to put in exit strategy search.

Yeah.

Boom, a show.

Exactly.

And so

Circumference, John Jensen Circumference, he did exactly that.

And he put this together a while back.

You know, he's like, hey, you know, I've got a good idea.

I played some of these, like the first couple of clips for Tina.

And she doesn't know all of our stuff.

She's, you know, she's only been around for 10 years.

We had seven years before that she knows nothing about.

She was cracking up.

She had never heard of

the dumb ideas.

Yes, you're right.

The dumb ideas.

Exactly.

But are they really?

Are they really?

You might I think, are money makers.

Maybe you should just explain to people.

I mean, do you even know how this started, how we started looking for exit strategies?

I think it started off as a lark.

I think it was a punchline to something one of the other, either you said or I said, and one of us said, the other one encountered with, oh, there's an exit strategy.

No, I don't.

Because exit strategy is a term that's used a lot in Silicon Valley.

We're both familiar with the lingo.

Yeah.

And so we picked it up and then we started, you know, somebody said it first.

Either one of us could have been.

I'm not sure.

But then it became a running gag.

No, here's what I think happened.

And it started early on, very early on, where we were looking at this and we're saying, you know, we're working so because I think it must have been Mevio must have, it might have even been pod show days.

I don't know.

We must have been sitting there.

No, you don't think it was pod show days?

Mevio?

Yeah.

I think we were both talking about, you know, we got this show, but

how do we punch out of this?

You know, it's like the whole idea in Silicon Valley is you have an exit, you got IPO, you're going to get acquired, you're going to sell.

Yeah, exit strategy.

Yeah.

And yeah, and we realized that there's no way to have an exit strategy for a podcast.

You just do it until you die.

Or at least some one of us does.

Until you come up with an exit strategy.

Or an exit strategy.

And the first one we came up with was a doozy, get your shorts on, get ready for exit strategy number one.

We have a UPS guy who's been, my UPS guy, not during the Christmas day, but now there's a bunch of slackers that came in, but our normal UPS guy, who's this

good-looking male model-looking guy.

Sometimes

he doesn't deliver the packages until like 8:30.

Yeah, same here, 8 or 9.

They're still working, I know.

Well, just because he's stopping off a lot of places, it seems to me.

This guy looks like he's the worst for wearing it.

He's got at least five or six women that demand him come in for cookies and tea.

Hey, maybe that is our exit strategy.

That sounds like a good gig.

Drive around all day in shorts.

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Chill on with hard-earned gratitude, boys.

It's Sabine.

Is that it?

Yeah, it's it.

Four.

All right, good.

Good work.

Yeah, it's my exit strategy.

I'm going to work one of these places.

Good script.

I like the script.

The writing was good this time.

Very nice.

Put music.

They pump the music into select barrels of whiskey.

They've got a Michael Jackson barrel, the Led Zeppelin barrel, and they believe that the sound vibrations expand and contract the wood, and then

it molds different tastes.

I was trying to pull myself on the bluegrass and Nutcracker ballet barrels are most popular.

They tast better, believe it or not, than non-musical whiskey.

I think that Zeppelin stuff is probably pretty good.

Okay.

Everybody bought into this one.

We could do this.

We could do this.

We could make water is pure water.

So we can bring in that guy who does the water crystals.

You know, when you put a note, love, underneath the bottle, then the crystals look all beautiful.

If you put a note, you know, no note or hate, then the crystals, they look all maligned and all deformed.

And we can have our beautiful, wonderful no-agenda water, which 17 virgins stood around and said love to for 24 hours.

I think it's a plan.

It's our exit strategy.

Yeah, baby.

Exit strategy.

As pathetic as it sounds, it's about the best we got.

All right, everybody.

We would not be the no agenda show if I didn't have a product idea.

You ready?

I'm listening.

I just

listening for this.

Now, this product already exists.

It's very effective to make.

We could make it even as an app.

I ordered an actual physical product because I don't have a phone with apps anymore.

I ordered the dog dazer 2 Mark II, and this is a small device that emits a 25 kilohertz tone of

incredible annoyance to the dogs.

Yes, they do not like that tone.

So, if I'm in a restaurant, there's a dog there.

It's going to go on, it's just going to go on my keychain.

No one can hear it.

You cannot hear it.

I mean, if you had a spectrum analyzer, you could see it.

If you're over 10 years old, you can barely hear anything over 15.

Yeah, you don't even like your birthday.

I mean, come on,

who cares?

But I think that this could be the no-agenda, you know, dog taser or whiskey.

This is the best idea you've had for months.

Now, it can be an app.

We could make it an app.

There's tons of apps.

I don't know if those little things will play that note.

Sure, they will.

I don't think so.

What?

A smartphone?

I don't think a smartphone has the speaker that can nail 25,000 hertz.

Distance will become a problem for sure.

Distance is a problem.

That's why I like, you know, just

a weaker.

Yeah, a device.

It should be a keychain.

It's just a keychain.

And the speaker does not have to be that big.

It just has to be high quality again.

Hit that note.

Piezo.

And paezo.

Paezo.

You say paezo, I say piezo.

Yeah,

so

but I'm very excited about bringing this to market.

I think we should do a Kickstarter.

This may be our exit strategy.

What has long been your assertion, which it's now a show assertion at this point, is...

Yeah, North Korea is trying to set itself up as a tourist attraction, tourist trap, if you will.

Yes.

And this came to you how many years ago?

Five?

Six?

Six.

Six years ago?

Really key thing I felt about the whole journey is that North Korea, I felt as though they were preparing and they wanted to to open up to the rest of the world because they've had to.

They spent all their money on these missiles and all that.

The farming, the agricultural and

food supplies are very, very scarce out in the countryside.

So now they've got to get something back.

And therefore, they're building great tourist resorts.

We saw an airport, an entire airport, which is totally empty.

There were no planes there at all.

But the airport is built, waiting for people to come to this tourist resort, which it will serve.

So, and why build that if they didn't really want to get tourists in from China, maybe from the rest of the world?

And they let you see that.

Oh, yes, exactly.

And they were prepared to talk about that and say we're going to have wonderful things.

And evidently,

they had had people who had gone to Disneyland in Paris to look at

how you build resorts like that, how you design them.

So, money had been invested in this opening up.

So, it isn't just a political rapprochement.

I think it's something they need for their survival now.

But when they do open up, then what happens to the sort of regimented Kim family thought?

You know, that people are going to say, well,

they do it differently in another part of the world.

Maybe we should do it differently.

I just don't know.

It's a very, very interesting time, I think.

Pretty much nailed it.

Oh, yeah.

Fantastic.

It was pretty obvious from the get-go.

That's what they were up to.

And I still think that

if they get their act together, I would wouldn't mind having the franchise to sell tickets to that giant, spectacular show.

Oh, yeah, the big show.

Yeah, the big show.

Once a year, you could get a thousand bucks a seat.

Oh, yeah.

No problem.

Well, I was thinking about this in our never-ending quest to get out of the podcasting gig and make some real money.

Another exit strategy.

Well, here's the strategy.

So

we get someone, within our network, somebody can at least go buy up a block of tickets.

We need a block of, say,

you know, 50 seats.

Maybe if we can get 20, we'll take that.

And then we're going to do a whole VIP thing.

So, you know, we're going to charter the, I mean, this is going to be millionaires, like people who are in the 500,000 plus category.

And it's going to be, you know, we'll take the whole thing: the lodging, you know, the plane.

We'll have our own tents, our yurts.

Catering.

Catering.

You know, complete a badge.

You know, badge.

Platinum badge.

Challenge coins.

Challenge coin tote bag

for the starter price of, I think, $7,000.

But if it's a couple, then, you know, then we just do

like 12 or something.

Just

cool about it.

12 is a sweet spot.

Yeah.

So get ready.

Fire up a newsletter.

And we have the banks.

who are laundering money, drug money typically.

And then you have the real estate guys like Trump who launder money through what we used to just call commerce, just doing private transactions.

but now we always think of everything as a crime.

Who cares?

I don't care where you got your money from.

You want to buy this apartment?

Good.

Here you go.

So Trump is just laughing his ass off, and they hate him for it.

And I just read that ING in the Netherlands just paid a 775 million Euro claim or a fine to the European, I guess the central bank, I don't know where they send it, to the EU for money laundering, drug money laundering, because they weren't paying close enough attention to the deposits, you see.

I did some research on this

to figure out how to do money laundering as a real estate guy.

You mean some job research.

My exit strategy.

The best one yeah.

It turns out it's a good one.

It turns out to be a very good one.

And the reason is because it's essentially legal.

It's completely legal.

You do not have to do it.

So Trump is not breaking any laws by being a money launderer.

If we want to call him that, if we even assume we're correct in our assumptions, which I believe we are, and that is because the restrictions on banks taking in cash and not reporting it and some drug companies and stuff still powdery is one thing.

And you have to do all these reportings.

For example, even when we make a money transfer,

if you wait way too long and it gets over a certain amount, it gets reported to the IRS.

Everything you do in a banking environment gets reported.

Real estate, no.

No holds bar.

There is nothing.

And you can take it.

Some guy can walk in your office if you're a real estate.

With cash.

With cash.

With a million dollars in cash.

It was very similar to me where

I had lots of money and I had a helicopter fractional ownership company and 9-11 happened.

It was like, that was the beginning of a long slide.

No one was using private aviation for a while after 9-11.

And that's when his restaurants,

or the restaurant he had in some crazy place with a a horrible lease and he just you know tanked on that a lot of stuff you don't know about the guy

yeah

i did yeah i had i had worked on i spent a couple probably i had a file open and every once in a while a question would come to mind i put it in there hey how many how many other interesting friends can we interview before they're dead or we are

i got quite a few i just have to do it yeah but give me one name that would be interesting

who's a good name that would be interesting well i know who would be interesting to me uh-huh and i want to do him yes uh so to speak this guy this guy draper yes this guy draper's 90 something he runs a wine he's one of the original wine importers in california and he's knows everything about the wine industry in the state

and he's finally opened up a small shop because you know i'm thinking with all these these interviews and all i have a couple people i can call you know we we've got a product

Or maybe not.

It's our exit strategy.

Once again, we're going to get out of this thing rich if it, if it kills us.

Title of 1070 on was Kami Comey.

And Darren, there was a lot of good art, actually.

Yeah,

it was a tough one.

We liked what Darren had done with the No Agenda stencils on the tents, which is our latest get-rich quick scheme.

Yeah, that's our exit strategy.

Yeah, our exit strategy.

I'm not quite sure how it's going to exit us.

I think

we basically wind up.

We're going to promoting the show.

Oh, okay.

We promote the show.

Once the show has been promoted sufficiently, we might get onto iTunes into the charts.

Does anyone in Texas think that Fort Worth is a shithole?

No, it's actually very beautiful, has a great airport, and that's where things will be happening.

Yeah, it's where Amazon's going to move.

I thought that was a secret.

You swore me to fucking secrecy.

You said, we got to look for some real estate up there.

It's another exit strategy.

And now you just tell me.

I'm the first

because I mentioned to a friend of mine a lib joe who seems to be worried sick that he's going to be swamped under by the rising oceans

you should ask him if he has a few hours to listen to my report on climate change it'll change his mind it's not that long it's only an hour anyway he um

he's moaning and groaning about this so you told him about amazon you told him our secret

A great place to move, and he says it's a shithole.

I said, what do you mean?

Wait a minute.

This guy said this Lib Joe said Fort Worth is a shithole?

Yeah.

Well, screw him.

It's not all that bad.

I like the town.

But anyway, so you might as well tell everyone now, now the cat is out of the bag, we've been researching Amazon moving to Fort Worth as their new headquarter.

And you and I were like, oh, we got to buy some real estate.

It's just going to make us rich.

Don't you remember the whole sworn to secrecy bit?

I made a mistake.

Okay, now everyone's in on it.

That, to the best of my recollection, is how podcasting came to be.

We should clip that whole thing.

Yeah,

I think it's...

We should put it out as a separate little podcast.

Yeah, we'll put it on the end bone.

Well, actually, what we'll do is a history of podcasting.

I'll do an interview with you.

I feel a giblet coming.

Ah, there's that too.

There's a giblet.

We'll take a little, we'll take a

transcript of what you just said.

We'll add some more stuff to it, make it into a giblet, and we'll also do it as clip that out and make a podcast that stands alone, a standalone podcast that says as its name, the history of podcasting.

Yeah, it's a good idea.

It's a very good idea.

And that will take once and for all.

So if you go to Google and you go history of podcasting, this thing is going to be on the first page somewhere.

And then there's the book.

Is it a full-on book?

There's only 8 million books of how podcasts are.

No,

it's going to be a giblet.

It's going to be a small, short little thing.

It's not going to be a long, boring book going back to 1927.

It's going to be just about what you said, pretty much, and how it kind of came about and how it got named and how it got where it got and why it is not doing what you'd hoped it had done, except in a very few instances, which are all very successful.

Well, I mean, if we did a full-on, I mean, we'd have to talk about many of you.

We'll co-author it.

We'll co-authored Adam Curry and Bob Doyle.

George Washington and Bob Doyle.

Oh, man.

Anyway, so that kind of sets it straight, I think.

But I'd love to do that.

Let that be a project.

That's our exit strategy right there.

Another project.

Another

can.

Yes.

He's a disruptor, credited for reviving Canada's apple industry.

It takes a village, they say.

Not a village, big town.

He did it three decades ago when he invented ice cider, an alcoholic apple drink akin to dessert wine.

It takes advantage of something Canada has in abundance, the cold.

I pick apple when there is minus 10 Celsius in the apple.

Instead of picking apples in the fall, he waits until they freeze in the winter when the apple sugar peaks.

He was inspired by a popular drink called ice wine, which is made from frozen grapes.

john you've hit upon something very big here this is an exit strategy

this is i'm sure millennials love this whole idea oh yeah ice cider can you imagine

curry dvorak ice cider you know we're like the two geezers who really know what we're doing we can come across yeah because we're apple experts yes we're apple experts we understand everything about apples about wine we understand that and i think the millennials would go crazy for this stuff.

So the accuracy just increases because the sample size gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger because they keep using it.

Already, I'm very impressed by facial recognition.

It really is.

I mean, especially if you have the right camera for it, the technology is actually pretty good.

There's a couple of things you can try.

Hat.

Apparently,

you can take a picture of an eyeball and you put it between the two eyeballs, or you can put two eyeballs.

You have a third eyeball?

Is that what the third eyeball would work?

But you can say, hey, I have a third eye, it's my religion.

You can put a copy of eyeballs above your brush.

Just don't stop.

Just stop.

This is the official no agenda TSA

evasion kit.

And it consists of a third eyeball sticker that you

put right on your head.

This is another, yet another exit strategy.

I believe there's also some uses of glassware that would work.

And makeup might

or might not work properly.

I want those glasses.

I want one of those glasses with the googly eyes that are born.

That fall out, the big eyeballs.

I think that would be funny.

But I think the real killer here, because

it's done through

points they have to identify, is the big Taliban beard.

I don't think that makes a difference.

I think it sees right to.

I don't think the beard does anything for facial recognition.

We have to look into it.

I believe a Taliban beard.

So the kit includes a sticker, a third-eye sticker, a Taliban beard, and the googly eyeglasses.

Yeah.

If we can get this made in China

for 20 cents and sell it for 20 bucks.

20 bucks.

I'm going to be rich.

We're going to be so rich.

Modern, modern problems.

Modern, modern problems in the UK.

Well, we've got a monster of a fat berg under the seafront here in Sidmouth.

It's about 64 meters long, we think, which is the equivalent of about six double-decker buses.

So, this is created by fat, but also with wet wipes and things.

So, our message, particularly around toilet and the way people use their toilets, is to only flush the three P's.

That is P, Paper, and Poo.

And nothing else.

Everything else needs to go in the bin.

And the same applies with fat in the kitchen sink.

Don't pour hot fat down the kitchen sink.

It needs to go into a container and also put in the bin.

This is really.

That's not true.

What?

You can emulsify fat with some soap and hot water, and it's just fine to dump it down the drains.

Have you seen any of these fat bergs

in the sewer?

It's so 60 meters long.

Well, that's because people put fat down the drain where they don't emulsify it.

Well, what's getting blamed for it is toilet wipes.

That's the one thing I keep hearing is toilet wipes, toilet wipes, toilet wipes.

Are they going to go the way of the straw?

I'll bet you they are.

Wait, this is our exit strategy.

We need recyclable toilet wipes or something like that.

Maybe you go.

Yeah, you take it, you wipe your butt, and then you wash it

in the washing machine a few times, and then you can use it again.

No, or it should have, or maybe better.

No, people aren't going to do that.

We should have some kind of butt wipe where it's kind of like a mitten.

And so after you've wiped, then you fold it inside out.

No, then you can dispose of it in the bin.

You know, so the whole thing is just

man.

I think maybe Dev wants to get one of those smart.

That already sounds like an expensive item.

This doesn't sound like a great exit strategy, is what I'm thinking.

Well, no.

Well, that's all these ideas have been.

Oh, man.

Don't be so mean to me now.

So, of course, I was looking for another exit premium, you know, an amulet or something that could channel away the 5G energy.

But, of course, this doesn't exist.

Oh, crystals.

It doesn't really exist.

Crystals.

5G crystals.

That's right.

No agenda 5G crystals.

We'll save your life from 5G signals.

Or maybe just a simple armband that lights up when there's too much 5G around you.

That would be cool.

And that's pretty inexpensive to make.

That's not a bad idea.

Yeah, you could just be, okay, I got red here on my bed.

And you use it on weave it into fashion so people can wear a fashionable dress and so when the dress just lights up and there's all kinds of cool stuff because there's too too many phones in the area it'd be great

that's one of the few times you've agreed with my exit strategy premium items i've always thought that wearable uh displays of uh leds and things flashing around were always cool i went years ago before i think it was in the 90s i went to china and they were selling this stuff on the street and i've always thought it was just a dynamite idea this once in a while it sneaks into the fashion sh shows but it doesn't really it hasn't totally caught on well this should be very actually quite easy to produce if we just create a little element that has the right length that it would uh fire up when it you know it's just like any kind of magnetic loop it'll it'll resonate and it can throw off uh a little electricity maybe enough to light something up on a band yeah all right i will be in the engineers out there that can help us of course there's gonna be some douche who already did this.

I know, right?

You don't think so.

Okay.

So, as a part of your OTG strategy, you do need something else.

And for that, I have the Surface Go, a very inexpensive, very small device.

It's the size of my original iPad.

I have a nice little, beautiful little case that it goes into, and I have a hotspot.

I think you can get the Surface Go with

now with LTE.

Don't get that.

What you want is you want to be disconnected.

If I really, really, really need to get something, the pain of turning on the dongle, the hotspot,

firing up the little computer, and then doing whatever I need to do, that becomes a choice of do I really need to do this?

Can I do this later?

Is it of utmost importance?

When it's really easy to do, you will do it.

You have to pain yourself.

And how long have I been doing this?

Six months?

Would you say longer?

Longer, really.

I'm cured.

I am completely cured, and I love it.

I can even pick up an iPhone now and just do something to get it out of there or whatever, and put it back down.

Notifications aren't in my life anymore, except for one sound from my phone, and that's only a handful of people, including you.

And you called me the other day.

That was a surprise.

Like, the phone's ringing.

So that is the strategy.

When people say, what phone should I get?

Oh, I can get

the the one that is completely built on open standards, Linux, hardware switches.

You're still going to be distracted and looking at your phone when you could be looking at other people looking at their phones.

It's a lot more fun.

It is funny.

It's fun.

It's really great because I'm going to be candid.

You feel superior.

You do.

Well, that's your goal in life.

You just feel superior.

Yes.

It's my exit strategy.

Yeah, you can chase it.

Well,

the problem with balsamic is because

the process for making it involves no aging, a little aging, a lot of aging,

and then it involves different specific gravities, which is the

thickness.

Oh, gravity is thickness?

Specific gravity.

It's pretty much thickness.

Okay.

It's the weight per

volume kind of calculation.

But anyway, so it can be very thick, and so you can pour it and it comes out kind of like a syrup, or it can be watery like the stuff you buy at Costco.

And so there, it's not watery, watery, but it's just watery.

It's just like the same viscosity of

regular vinegar.

It doesn't have any of the thickness that you get on a good balsamic.

And thank you for giving us the correct pronunciation.

Balsamic.

I think I always say balsamic, which is wrong.

Balsamic.

I don't really think it's important.

It is the point.

But I think that because of the variation in the quality and style, I think it'd be very easy to pass off the mediocre using the wrong grapes and making it the traditional way and getting those flavors.

I think it'd be very difficult to spot, to be honest about it.

Well, the scandal is upon us.

I'm going to have to have some of the scandalous stuff.

You never know.

Scandalous.

You know,

it's possible that the scandalous stuff is better.

It could be.

It's always possible.

It does happen.

Hey, man, this stuff actually kicks ass.

We like it.

It actually could be better.

In fact, if they marketed it differently, I think you'd have some, for example, don't call it basalmic, call it asalmic.

Ooh, nice.

You had b salmic, try asalmic.

Oh, an exit strategy.

Yeah.

New vinegar.

But I have an idea.

We could write a book about it.

Oh, I'm sorry.

What am I thinking?

Yeah.

You know, the guy that was taking the test for the students, he was arraigned, and I guess he's going to go to jail.

This is in

the college school.

Admission scandal.

Yes.

He was doing that taking the

admission scandal.

I want you to guess.

And I know you don't have this clip or you didn't hear this.

How much was he paid to take the SAT for somebody and then also not only take it, but get the score that would be

apparently so good he could

manipulate the score.

So

he knew all the answers.

How much was he paid per test?

Why would you think I wouldn't know this number?

Oh, you know it?

Yeah, of course.

What do you think I do all day?

Oh, man.

Florida Prep School Administrator Mark Riddell pled guilty today in Boston federal court to taking entrance exams for students in a massive college admissions bribery scheme.

Prosecutors said the 36-year-old Harvard graduate was typically paid $10,000 per test.

Riddell could face up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Now, did you think that was a lot?

I didn't think it was a little or a lot.

I just thought it was good money for taking a test.

I was thinking the same way.

Like,

because you can only pick one up, you know, once every couple of weeks, I guess.

Yeah, but it's 10 grand.

You do 10 a year.

You made $100,000 off the top.

Yeah, well, there's hope.

Hey, exit strategy.

Do you think you could ace?

Do you think you could ace the

exam?

I could come pretty close.

I got really high scores on the SATs.

Now we all know why I went to West Virginia.

Now,

what you just said, I think, is a great idea.

And I will mention Costco and other places.

You could put

two or three

quote-unquote rolls on a small thumb drive and take it to Costco, and they'll print these things out inexpensively, about the same you'd have to pay for supplies to do it yourself, fairly inexpensively, and you will have these backups.

And they actually, the gear that the big print guys have is a little better than what you generally have and it's also, it tunes the photos a little bit.

There's going to be an entire generation of children who get old and die and there's going to be nothing left.

I really enjoy having some of my mom's crazy shit, some letters and some photos.

Photos.

I like the photos i like photos of my daughter black and white photos yeah

yeah i agree because i've you know i've saved all of the original videotapes of christina second birthday third birthday there's some fun stuff on it start rolling them out yeah it's vhs it's then i also have uh vhsc

i have beta no uh what's the dv video now i saved the actual cameras so i can play it back yeah this is a problem but it's it's going yeah there's services who will do it and i understand the storage is going to be a problem because, oh my God, now you, besides your $200 Lululemon pants, you also have to carry around some, like a photo album and you have no backpack for it.

This is not going to work for these guys.

Maybe, hey, exit strategy.

I just saw a giant truck go by.

Giant truck with a big blue side that said prime.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Amazon.

Yeah.

All right.

Anyway,

you know, they're into this.

The way they're doing it is what they're into, and I think they're going to be sorely disappointed.

Yeah, this is just a warning.

Yeah, I agree.

It's just a, hey, take it from your Uncle Adam and Uncle John.

You might want to have some memories later on, and it's going to go away if you trust it to Instagram.

Just take a couple, make a selection.

We need to have the millennialvault.com or something like this, where

you just send off a couple of pictures, we print them, we store them for you, which, of course, we don't do because we're really an on-demand printing system, you see.

So we'll say, we're going to print these for you, and we'll keep them safe for you.

And then when you go pick them up, which 90% will never do, then we, oh, here they are.

We print them off real quick.

So they're also well preserved.

They're kept perfectly well.

And, you know, obviously we won't lose the data.

It's another exit strategy.

Like this show is doomed.

Well, I don't know.

I think we'll make it out before the real crunch comes down.

You mean exit strategy?

I got angry letters about this.

Yeah, a producer emailed me.

People in my family have donated, but I just can't, when you keep talking about exit strategy, bring back the good old days.

I said,

good old days.

What do you mean we were doing one show a week for 40 minutes and you weren't donating?

I didn't want that.

I don't think so.

So you do know that exit strategy is a joke, right?

Kind of.

I mean, if we had a real exit strategy,

we'd exit.

exit but right now but right obviously got nothing but right now being being on the front lines of the podcast uh reboot is fabulous no one cares about us not a single not a single story not nothing covers us ever ever

was it some karma for her husband who's a a mainframe guy a mainframe dude

because there's not that many mainframe jobs left and like we got an email from a company that says oh or someone who works at a company says hey could you please hook hook me up with that producer?

Because I think our company would be interested in her husband.

And so I don't know if we've made a love match yet, but we have.

Did you send her?

You sent a note back.

Eric very properly

sent a note to her with the information.

We don't connect people directly.

They have to do that themselves.

So we're like a

job fair here.

Yeah.

Hey, hey, exit strategy.

Exactly.

Job fair.

Hey, everybody.

Welcome to the Adams Job Fair.

Welcome to the coin on Saturday.

In Great Plains on Sunday, 12 to 3.

You know, your

syrupy.

All you need to do is just put Katie Perry on the judges' podium, and then you'll have it made.

The ABC will carry it.

Yeah, but see, now, this is the beauty of the Eurovision Song contest, is there's a each country has its own professional judges, and they vote, and they're not allowed to vote on their own country.

But then you have

the text vote,

and And

you see all the politics coming into play.

Adjacent countries who will vote for each other.

If they don't like that country, then everyone hates Russia, so they don't vote for them, except for the countries that do love Russia.

So it's just, it's a wonderful evening.

Apparently, Logo stopped doing it.

So much for your theory.

Damn it.

It's ridiculous.

I do think it could be

when you mentioned Terry Wogan just

ragging on it.

I think I'd watch that.

You and I could do this, actually.

We could do

as much as anybody.

But we could do a good job.

I think it would be fun to have you just be like, what is this?

I don't understand.

What country?

Who is this country?

Where's Katie Perry?

I could see it.

All right.

Well, I'll see if anyone is carrying it.

Next year, this will be a big event.

We could do a little TV.

This is our exit strategy.

Hey, I'm all for it.

Let me see if we.

Hey, how about this?

Let me see if we can get

a feed that everyone will be watching.

A legal feed.

A legal feed.

And then we'll just pop on our stream and we'll just provide commentary.

You can sit on the couch while you do it.

No, we got to do it on video.

It has to be video.

Can't we just provide a...

Oh, I see what you're saying.

Yeah, it has to be synced with the video.

But we don't have to be on camera.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

I was thinking more like the space science 3000 with the two of our shadows in front,

you know, silhouettes of our heads,

and maybe a third head.

I think that's complicating an already well-thought-out format.

Just do the voiceover, you don't need to do anything else.

How did Wogan do it?

He just voiceover, he was just in the background.

He was never on camera.

Yeah, just get a video feed, and then you and I will just rag on it.

Complicated later.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

I think this is.

I think this.

Is it this weekend?

That's the wedding weekend.

And?

Well, so.

Oh, you have to cancel the wedding.

Either that or we can sit in my studio and do it live together.

Yeah, maybe.

Cancel the wedding.

Maybe not.

Maybe not.

Oakland, I know him.

I said, hey, Cliff, can I come over there with some gear and we can record

some new material from you?

And he obliges.

It's very entertaining.

Very entertaining.

Oh, good.

And you did this when?

This past week?

I did last week.

Oh, cool.

And he also makes Klein bottles as a hobby.

What kind of bottles?

A Klein bottle is a bottle with one surface.

You have to look it up to see what they are, but they only have one surface.

It's like a,

you know, the thing you twist, and what's it called?

I can't remember.

People in this chat room know where you have a, you can take a piece of paper and turn it so it has one surface and you just keep going around and around.

Wow, no.

I know what it is.

I got it.

Now, Klein bottle.

How do you spell Klein?

K-L-E-I-N.

Klein bottle.

Okay.

We'll just see what it is.

Yeah, Mobius Band.

Oh, okay.

It's a Mobius band bottle.

Well, that's interesting.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't know.

I mean, is there any benefit to the Mobius band bottle?

Or the Mobius Band bottle?

None.

Yeah, there's a benefit if you make them.

If you make them and you sell them, there's a benefit.

No other observable benefit.

It's basically a curiosity, that's for sure.

And he makes a bunch of different ones.

So when you pour it, it basically goes back into the bottle.

Yeah.

It's just smart stuff.

You can't really pour it out.

That's what we should do.

That's the problem.

You can't get it out.

I've got it.

There's another exit strategy.

Not quite sure how we're clining bottles.

The second is we have an upvote and a down vote system that's really powerful to have both so that users can actually weigh in what is appropriate content and what's good content.

And there it is.

This is a whole new presentation.

And they're saying, we have human moderators.

We have 15 to 50 moderators before anything surfaces up high enough for your brand to be tainted by it.

Don't worry, you're safe with us.

We got this lady over here.

She knows the inside workings of Twitter and Google.

We've figured it out.

We've tackled it.

They hired 60 people, six zeros, 60 people in New York for brand advertising.

And then they quarantine the Donald.

Well, of course they do.

They're pitching this to advertisers.

Well, what are you doing about all that horrible discourse?

All these alt-right people on the Donald subreddit.

We've quarantined that.

So if you want to be effective and if you are worried about free speech and you really feel you need to use these platforms, which I'm against,

And you need to go after the advertisers and stop bitching and moaning about censoring.

Go after the advertisers.

Go for the jugular where the money is.

This is where we could get into our pitch.

Oh, the final thing I wanted to say.

I got a note from.

This is another exit strategy.

We could start that group.

Oh, interesting.

What group?

The anti-brand group?

The Media Matters group.

We'd be a Media Matters.

No Agenda Matters.

These are on all the time.

We cannot sleep because every 15 to 20 minutes, the guards are yelling something.

Get up.

We spend all day and every day inside of that room.

There are no activities

only crying.

Oh,

won't somebody, please?

They've got the children.

Unbelievable.

So not only do I not believe this,

they've now traumatized 20 other children into believing how horrible, and I'm sure it's no picnic,

but this is not the way to go about doing these things.

It's despicable.

You know what?

Maybe we're stupid.

We're stupid, John.

No, no, we're dumb.

I don't see it that way.

Yeah, we're dumb.

Okay.

Yeah.

We need to have children asking for donations on our show.

Ooh.

I'm liking it.

Please, Adam and John.

They have to sleep on the show.

We have plenty of talent out there that can record a few diddies for us.

Children begging for money for the no agenda show because

it's horrible how bad things are.

It's horrible how bad things are.

Exactly.

So

if we're just not missing,

this is it.

We could actually start an ad agency.

Exit strategy.

Woo!

That's it.

Our exit strategy.

Yes.

A bunch of very talented erudite kids.

This is a great idea.

Yes.

What we call it, kids for cash?

Or

it sounds like Cars for Kids.

It sounds like too much.

It doesn't.

Oh, no, no.

Don't sing it.

Don't sing it.

It'll be in my head for the rest of the week.

No, no, no.

Don't do that.

Well, we can use a jingle, too.

Yeah, we need to do that.

We're going to do this.

This is where we're going.

This is a great idea.

And then auditions are underway.

And then the newsletter, you can do it with crayons.

I'm sure it'll work.

Clearly,

this is the way to go.

We also found that, and this I think is key, that many of the streaming set-top boxes and smart TVs tell the sending side to send 5.1, even if the output is only going to stereo speakers built into the TV.

So I think there's a big flaw is in

your Roku box or whatever you're using.

It's sending a signal saying, yeah, send me that 5.1, which of course

is looking for a center channel to send the dialogue through.

The audio processor in these devices often does not do a proper down mix to stereo, and in several of the low-priced models, does a very poor job of the down mix levels, leaving dialogue always lower than other sounds, in particular by not properly mixing in the center channel with the front, left, and right.

This is where I see our exit strategy.

We needed a box, you need a box, yeah, you need a box, you need a DSP, digital signal processing box.

there's an app that does this for the xbox uh apparently i don't have an xbox but a lot of people call it a foley box

just use this software license it there you go done exit okay well that's it last show everybody uh we had the uh the big freak out and boycott of equinox and soul cycle

what soul cycle and equinox the boycott we had the boycott remember the uh the ceo of the the company that owns the gym and the spin class?

Oh, the spin gym guy.

Spin gym guy.

The spin gym guy.

Hold on.

That, by the way, is a whole new cab.

That's an exit strategy.

I'm going to write that down.

Spin gym.

So you go there and you can spin and gym.

I'm telling you, it's a combo.

It's the spin gym.

Yeah, you're pumping away and you're pulling down weights.

At the same time.

Yeah.

Perfect.

Spin gym.

Okay, I'm writing that down as an exit strategy.

Podcasts aren't helping.

I have to call back, though.

Your idea of the homelessness experience in Disneyland.

This is an exit strategy.

I think we could create this ride.

Now, do you sit in the ride, or do you, I think you should also experience for a brief moment, you stepping in human feces?

I don't know that the homeless are always stepping in human feces.

I guess some of that are really down and out staggering down the street all leaned over no no i mean if the ride is the ride are you going to actually experience it like uh so is it a ride if it's is it a i think the most enjoyable disney rides are in a cart you know and you got your music going on you're like you know the well okay there's two ways of going about this i'm a huge connoisseur of these things here we go

There's one is you're in the little cart, a little car, or a little thing, and it's going through a homeless encampment, and people are all all animatronic.

That's like Pirates of the Caribbean.

Yeah, exactly like Pirates of the Caribbean, only you're not in it.

Maybe you could be in a kind of a river of pea, you know, if you're in kind of stinky pea.

That would be okay.

But I think, generally speaking, it'd be better on rails, and you go through these things and you see all these different people.

And then they have, you know, people, then you have you go through the section where there's a bunch of politicians trying to come up with good solutions, and they finally say, We just need more housing.

And then

you come out the other end of it, and you feel real good about yourself.

And now you understand.

You understand.

Now you have evolved.

That's what I'm saying.

The other one, which is the cheaper way to go, is you wear some VR glasses or you're in a VR situation.

You experience the whole thing.

Only now it's even more realistic.

Because it's not animatronics.

It's not dummies and things like Pirates of the Caribbean.

It's actual videos that you're seeing

surrounded by the real stench and filter and fans blowing the smell of crap in your face.

And you'd go through the whole thing and you come out the other end pretty much with the same message, but it's just a cheaper way to do the ride.

Less maintenance.

I personally like the Pirates of the Caribbean version.

I like that a little better.

I think it's more fun.

I always like those rides better than the ones that are

because you go through City Hall where the council members are all sitting there pontificating.

Then you could do no and here's los angeles and here's austin you can have a couple show some differences oh yeah right yeah you could go you could take the car through one place or another and then you know guys begging for money in different ways

along the ride people keep coming up to your cart asking for money yeah

we're going to hell for this there's more to this report so we already we discussed this on the show i had the clip of that guy who used to eat food you know that he's very popular.

He just eats like huge amounts of food and then bitches and moans and gets sick.

And this guy's got millions of viewers.

Okay.

Yes.

Mukbang.

It's yes.

And

the keeper watches some.

We did not miss this.

But well, but we didn't get the name Mukbang, and we didn't get some other important facts.

Yes, we did miss a lot of this story.

since 2011, a peculiar trend of live streaming while eating large quantities of food has become more and more popular in South Korea.

Here it comes.

The people who participate in mukbang have become minor celebrities in their own right

to the point that they're referred to as broadcast jockeys, or the more popular term, don't laugh, BJs.

So they've become BJs.

Yeah, well, I agree.

We didn't catch BJs.

These so-called BJs have learned that there is such a thing as a free lunch.

This is Park Soo Young, one of the country's most popular BJs, for whom Mukbang was a full-time job.

Better known as the Diva.

At one point, she was making up to $9,000 a month through her fans' donations.

John, exit strategy!

We can do this!

$9,000 a month compared to the girls who do makeup videos is minor.

But we can do ASMR

mukbang.

Here's an example.

This is a guy eating a pizza.

Mmm.

We could do this.

Well, maybe you're not in, but I think I need to do some mukbang.

I think you should do it.

I think you should do it, and I'll watch.

But listen to the headline.

VJ becomes BJ.

I mean, could it be any better?

It's obvious.

The promotion is right there, ready to go.

Yeah.

Well, there's another dead end.

Woody Allen wasn't already like super, like, super canceled?

No.

He's canceled, canceled now.

I mean, his new movie, A Rainy Day in New York, will not get released in the United United States.

It's actually been released in Europe to good reviews.

Yeah.

Amazon will not bring it out in the United States.

They won't stream it.

He's got the autobiography of Woody Allen, which has to be a fascinating book.

Yeah, no, denied.

The big four publishers, none of them will touch it.

Did he do that himself?

He's a writer, yeah.

But he did

the film about his life, or is it just a written film?

No, about the public.

Oh, well, shit, No Agenda Press should release that.

Exit strategy, baby.

That's the

bottom of the barrel for him.

In the actual government documents themselves.

If you look at money that was intended for Ukraine.

It does take a genius.

It's, you know, $300 million

was earmarked, government money, our money, tax money, $300 million

for AIDS education in Ukraine.

And that's going to NGOs.

And that's how it works.

You set up, you know, it's like, hey, John, we got a buddy over there.

You know, they make it in Congress and

they got some chips in with somebody else.

So why don't we start a little non-governmental organization?

We will educate podcasters how to be free media, something like that.

And then we'll get an earmark and we'll get $25 million.

We put together a classroom.

Oh, this is what it is.

And this is what we should be doing.

I know.

This is the exit strategy.

We're available.

Now,

you need a good grantsmanship person, somebody who knows how to write grants, and you can make a lot of money off of this thing that they're trying to put an end to.

And I think it's wise to put an end to it because it is squandering taxpayers' money.

So we have the same memes over and over from all the reporters and from every analyst on this side of the water

that it makes us less safe.

And Congress wasn't consulted.

That's it.

That's all they got.

That's all they got.

Congress wasn't consulted.

And as you pointed out, and everybody really knows this, Congress doesn't need to be supported or I'm sorry, informed about a drone hit on someone.

No.

When have they ever been informed of it?

When Obama had his hit list, was he calling Congress up and saying, what do you think, Nancy?

Should I kill this guy at the wedding?

We went into Syria without a declaration of war.

Come on.

I mean, but

that's just grasping at straws.

But more importantly, did I hear you say that there's real money in these think tanks?

Is that possibly the exit strategy we should be looking at?

There's real money in these think tanks

if you know how to manage one.

We need somebody out there who can do grantsmanship.

So I think we should have the Curry Dvorak Lincoln Washington Consortium.

Don't you think so?

Doesn't that sound official?

Consortium group?

No, what do we need?

Curry Dvorak, Lincoln, Washington, confab.

No, I'm looking for the right one.

Lincoln, Washington, just a good beginning.

Curry and Dvorak, who are those guys?

So just put Lincoln, Washington, consulting?

Washington, Lincoln, Lincoln, Washington.

Yeah, Lincoln, Washington, Washington,

you'd have focus group this baby.

Can we put it?

Do we just throw JFK in there for good measure?

Lincoln, JFK.

JFK's out.

He's out.

Okay.

So I think the Lincoln, Washington Consulting Group.

Yeah.

Okay.

It might work.

Lincoln, Washington.

Who's Lincoln?

Who's Washington?

Well, you know.

We have to.

Greatest president ever.

How about strategic, strategy group?

That's better.

Lincoln, Washington Strategy Group.

People can watch this in real time as we develop this.

I've been working on

our exit strategy, as always.

Yes.

Well, there is something going on in Texas, which might work for us.

I mean, it's not,

it would still mean work, but we could certainly make a lot of money if you're interested.

Well, the work part of it is kind of disconcerting.

Here's Shelby County, Texas.

Shelby County Commissioners plan to pay more than $9,000 a month to a podcasting company to produce podcasts and market it on the internet.

Woo!

This contract is so outrageous that it just baffles me why we're doing this.

Shelby County Commissioner Mick Wright is the lone commissioner who voted against paying the Kudzukian network almost $110,000 to produce podcasts for the commission.

When you're talking about over $100,000,

I mean, you could buy a small fleet of vehicles for that amount and still do a podcast.

The local iTeam found there are cheaper options in town.

The OAM network operates out of the crosstown concourse.

Here, a podcast costs $300 for the first episode and $100 per episode after that.

OAM's owner questions why the county is even paying for a podcast when it video streams its meetings and also broadcasts them live on the radio.

The owner of Kudzukian didn't want to comment for this story, but at the commission meeting, he explained the cost this way.

We really work with businesses and we work with government entities to make sure that they have a very high-end product.

John, it's that easy.

There's a lot of counties.

Every county.

Listen, we work with a lot of businesses and we ensure you have a high-end quality product.

The Curry Dvorak Podcast Production Group.

I would love to hear these high-end products from this guy.

I wonder if they've produced any yet.

Shelby, that would be funny.

I should have actually looked into that.

I'm sorry.

Podcast.

Let's see, Shelby County Podcast.

No, nothing yet.

But it's, it's something we could consider.

100 grand a year.

Yeah.

For just one county.

For one county, do it to do a thousand counties.

Boom.

This is all being done through, or not all, mostly being done through AID, but also the Democracy and Human Rights Bureau here at state.

USAID and A new one,

the Democracy and Human Rights Bureau,

which is

a new one.

You must have looked it up.

Oh, yes, I did.

This is our exit strategy.

All we need is to write one good grant.

This is phenomenal.

I mean, it literally says opportunities.

Here's one.

Requests for statements of interest, China programs.

So the Bureau of Human Rights, of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, which is a part of the State Department, announces a request for statements of interest from organizations interested in submitting statements of interest for programs that protect and promote human rights in China.

I think we qualify.

If not, we could make a sub-podcast that does.

Oh, yeah.

And all

the program concepts should demonstrate the ability to improve rights awareness and access to justice for Chinese citizens, strengthen and institutionalize citizen participation in government, promote government information transparency.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

The numbers

they have available for

2020.

I'm just scrolling down because it's a very long thing.

They have one grant for $750,000 and one for $1.5 million.

John.

We're crazy if we don't go after some of this.

That's just the China one.

We could grab any one of these.

this is a propaganda bonanza

i love these guys

and and congress just gives them the money here you go

yeah this is a very interesting outfit so that's what your money's going towards podcasters in venezuela

way to go congress very very proud of the work you're doing

i did get the message about elderberry and uh there's some research on elderberry and chokeberry.

Chokeberry.

Which apparently keeps the Russians from ever catching any of these.

Yeah, chokeberry.

You look it up.

It's another berry.

These two particular products have an immune effect on the immune system, specifically targeting viruses.

And the Russians make a big deal of having chokeberry and elderberry syrups and drinks

and such.

Is this

winter time?

Is this a millennial thing now?

It's like a small batch deal?

I don't know, but this is where he got it from.

So I'm expecting to see it.

And he mentioned it in his report, the elderberry phenomenon.

And so I guess they're all aware of it.

And so now if you can somehow invest in the elderberry business or chokeberries,

you're going to make a lot of money.

Exit strategy.

10 emails.

of people saying, dude, dude, dude, dude, what was it?

Tell me what, where, what's your website?

I want stuff that makes my hair grow.

So I feel obliged to say that.

The happyhairformula.com is Vicki's personal website.

And let us know how that works out for you.

That could be kind of interesting.

We could eventually have the official hair care product of the No Agenda Show, if it's any good.

No Agenda

hair care product.

Just like the t-shirts.

Nap for humanity.

There's some other guys who were talking about some coffee.

I just want to make it clear.

Like, hey, man, we'd like to put the no agenda logo on the coffee and we'll give you a third.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

If we like a product, we may endorse it.

I don't know about having our logo on it.

I don't think that's the right way to go.

What do you think?

Well, a couple of things.

Do I hear an exit strategy?

We had a no agenda beer out of Australia, as you recall.

Yes, that's true.

Yeah.

And it had our logo with kind of a logo on it.

And we've had other products.

all the t-shirts that are done by the shop, you've got the logo all over it.

I don't see

why all of a sudden

we hate coffee.

I don't.

I would like to taste the coffee

before it becomes official no-agenda coffee.

Is that correct?

Oh, now that's different.

I will say this.

I will agree with that.

So we need a couple pounds of coffee, and then you can put the, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, a little micro brew from Australia.

I mean, that was, by the way, it wasn't even that micro.

It made it all all the way to the U.S.

It was selling.

It was a monster.

It's a big, it's actually a big micro brewery.

A big micro brewery.

Fantastic.

Yeah, it makes no sense, but there it is.

On call for the benefit of the state.

But senior officials tell a PBS News Hour today was also about diplomatic reciprocity.

In January, out of fears of COVID, the U.S.

evacuated its Wuhan consulate.

It has not reopened because of a dispute over whether U.S.

employees have to quarantine and take COVID-19 tests upon arrival at Chinese airports.

Longer term, U.S.

officials say they want to reduce their footprint in China.

In addition to the Beijing Embassy, the U.S.

has five consulates on the Chinese mainland and the Hong Kong consulate.

Senior officials say they've accepted the likely permanent closure of one consulate and intend to move it elsewhere in Asia.

You know, it's really no wonder when you listen to these news reports and I wonder who was doing the reading what the station it was on because there's no wonder that no one gives a crap about China because it's really not compelling the way it's delivered.

The hell, what station is this?

That's your PBS news hour.

Hello.

Oh, my God.

That's really so exciting.

I don't know why people don't listen to it, but we did report on the story, but I just spoke it this way, and then no one really paid attention to me.

I'm pretty good at it.

Get that voice down, you nail that.

You pretty much go to work.

That's it.

I can work for you.

Woo!

Exit strategy, everybody.

And see, I also got a whole bunch of comic books.

I think that's from.

I wonder if that's from our guy who's

Are they high-end comic books with the

Batman characters?

No, let's see.

I'm not quite sure who this is.

Mike Riley's been sending out some work.

Oh, maybe.

Oh, this looks like Mike Riley.

Now, it's Mike Riley.

That's very distinctive.

Oh, my goodness.

This is Riley.

Oh, here it is.

Oh, my Chimera likely.

He's doing no agenda comic books.

Have you seen those?

They're great.

I haven't got the latest batch.

Oh, my goodness.

I had not received any.

I love these.

I really appreciate that, Mike.

Thank you so much.

Well, he sent me some before because I requested a printout of one of his artworks.

Yeah, well, it's,

I mean, this is dynamite work.

And there's also now on the Amazon store, I tweeted a link to it, from the same makers of the No Agenda Red Book, you can now buy your very own Curry Dvorak Consulting Group notebook.

That's a good one.

That's half the exit strategy is right there.

What is kind of nice to know that this problem...

Now you're a podcaster.

And not only am I a podcaster, the pod father, but

it hit me Friday night.

I've not slept more than a couple hours a night.

I figured out how to fix podcasting.

And I'm going to do it.

This is the last time I heard.

This was your exact mode.

You go into this all the time by the way I do it's a cycle I think it's about every two years

but it could be longer yeah

uh the last time you had this was you were uh you actually that was probably another time before this one but the last time Podcaster Pro

yes which Rode finally did yeah so I was right I

chose poor partners

that was my that was my mistake there's no doubt about it yeah

and and I learned from that.

And that was, you know, I learned from the failure, and so did Rhoda.

And I'm happy.

Rhoda went, oh, poor guy.

This is fucking great.

We got all these bits.

And they never sent you a free one.

Never sent me a free one.

And

they almost have it perfected if only they put a noise gate on the channel that comes in from the computer.

I'm just going to keep saying until they do it.

Otherwise, it looks like a pretty decent device.

Now, this is a fix that will fix payments.

It's going to fix a whole bunch of things.

I figured it out.

And

it may give us an exit strategy.

And are you going to discuss this openly?

Hell no.

I'm not even going to tell you privately.

No, no, no.

No.

No, no, no.

I've learned.

See, I've learned.

I've learned from my mistakes.

But Podcasting 2.0 is coming.

I'm working on it.

Okay.

We're all at pins and needles.

Yeah.

That's all the tees you get.

The next tease you get will be a pew-pew map.

And indeed,

Podcasting 2.0 has turned out to not be an exit strategy.

I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.

Imagine all the people who could do that.

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

Yeah,

on no agenda

in the morning.

It's been fun.

It's been fun seeing all the new apps, but no exit strategy.

I'm still stunned that they haven't sent you a free road.

A free Roadcaster?

Yeah, a roadcaster.

They hate me.

It's unbelievable.

This is typical.

They send them to YouTubers and all kinds of people all the time.

I'll bet you I could work one.

I mean,

if they, yes.

I mean, think about this.

They also have the Rodecast video, videocast.

Yes, the latest, yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, they could be like, hey, you guys could do one, one video episode, and we would probably do it if we got some free gear out of it.

Yeah, that's the way you do it.

We're horrid.

But we're not getting anything.

No, it's amazing.

I'm really baffled about that because they.

Yeah, the whole thing is ridiculous.

They kind of took my idea.

I don't want to blame it.

I don't accuse them of anything.

Well, you can't.

You know, I wouldn't.

And I love it.

The worst thing is I love their product.

I love the product.

I use it.

I have two of these.

I bought it.

And you're endorsing it, which really you shouldn't do.

No, I I got to stop doing that.

I got to stop doing that.

Yes.

So we have to mention, this is the donation segment.

The people that donate will get mentioned on the next show to be a long donation segment.

And they were still taking donations, obviously.

And I want to mention that if anyone wants to get the PhD in media deconstruction, it's still available until the next show.

So it ends tomorrow, technically.

But, you know, we'll give you a little weasel room if you get your

donation for the PhD.

Then it's over.

And that's it.

There's no more, there's no more Code Bond Gino for you.

That will be the last PhD immediate deconstructions for the foreseeable future.

Yeah, go to noagendadonations.com.

Yes, and thank you.

Thank you all for supporting us with the value-for-value model.

Thank you for

all of our artists.

Thank you for everyone who's doing meetups.

It's a time, talent, and treasure.

And thank you again to Circumference for putting this episode together.

There is over an hour left to go.

You're going to love this one, John.

I'm not even going to tell you what it is.

This is the continuation of some great ideas known as the No Agenda exit strategies.

Well, unfortunately, we do have an exit strategy.

And the exit strategy is we podcast until we die.

That's the big exit.

Bye, everybody.

I can't think of

any other exit strategy for us.

It is overwhelming, the evidence.

If you don't believe in climate change, all this heat, please come to the state of California and we will re-educate you or ultimately enlighten you.

Wow.

Come to California.

We will re-educate you.

Please come to the state of California and we will re-educate you or ultimately enlighten you as to the consequences of the earth and its temperatures increasing and the consequences that are having in terms of droughts, not just wildfires, as well as floods.

Okay, I have an idea.

This is easily executable and we have the producers.

This is, after all, the best podcast in the universe.

We have the producers to do this.

I would like

a pre-print

study.

That's what, you know, that's what we get all the time.

And it's always, oh, that's not scientific.

It doesn't matter in this case.

A pre-print study that just has a whole bunch of word salad in there there that shows that climate change and the increase in temperature is the

direct cause of

COVID.

And let's just get it out there, see what happens.

I mean, we might as well show how good we are

for the exit, for the exit strategy.

It's just a thought.

Just a thought.

We can do that.

Let's do a very doable.

Yeah, you know, put a couple of doctor names, affiliations, you know, and a statement of no, no conflict.

Ah, it's going to be fantastic.

We should really consider that.

We tried to get reports from, I think it was Gen Z.

For a while.

Not Gen Z, but Gen X, one of the genes.

And we sent out the message, we want reports on your sex life.

Oh, yeah.

Because there's a lot of kinky sex going on because these people, they learned about sex from

really horrid porn.

And we started getting some reports in, and the reports were so terrible that we just discontinued the project.

Yeah, that's another failed exit strategy from the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group where we could not put together the white paper.

I said, well, think of the good news.

It says you're a dog walker.

They're going to have to have professional dog walkers because it specifically says people who walk their dogs.

They don't want people out of the house.

So

if this is true, then don't you have a 78% higher chance of contracting COVID, catching COVID if you just walk walk outside in general, even with a mask.

I mean, I don't understand the logic of this.

Oh, no, no.

No, you're missing the whole point.

The nasty little COVID guys, they're floating around as an aerosol, and they land on the dog's fur.

And then

you walk the dog into the house, and the dog is covered with these things.

Oh, man.

Doggy shampoo.

Like fleas.

Doggy shampoo.

We got special COVID doggy shampoo.

There's all kinds of product opportunities.

By the way, exit strategies right here.

You nailed it.

Hi, I'm Adam Curry.

I used to hate dogs until I found the love of my pooch with a new COVID shampoo.

Only one end of show mix for today, everybody.

It'll be the full Jeff Smith Build Back Better song.

It is up for sale for any globalist who would like to license it from the No Agenda Gitmo Nation Jeff Smith publishing company, which now exists.

It's our exit strategy.

Oh, can you imagine how much dough we could make if that thing became a hit worldwide?

The sync rights alone.

Oh, my God.

Here's your exit strategy, everybody.

Make sure you turn on your favorite globalists to this next song.

In the EU, a fantastic...

This could have been Curry Dvorak Consulting Group exit strategy.

I am beating myself over my head that we missed this opportunity.

I'm very, very disappointed in myself.

In you as a consulting partner, founding consulting partner, and probably very disappointed in our associates, known as producers of the show, that no one came up with it.

This must be really bad.

You're scolding everybody.

97-year-old Colette Dupas, a nursing home resident in Jumont, France, has been taking precautions against COVID-19.

She's been limited to speaking with her family via video call or through a window, but now Dupas is able to feel their touch through plastic thanks to an inflatable tunnel known as the Hug Bubble.

Baby, it even has one of our names, the Hug Bubble.

This thing is fantastic.

We could have manufactured them overnight.

Dupa's daughters recently visited her, putting one arm through an airtight sealed plastic sleeve to reach their mother and stroke her hair.

Stephanie Lazzo is an assistant at the nursing home.

It has brought comforts.

Residents would see their relatives through a window or through a camera, and they were really missing having real contact, and they are getting a lot of love.

Before Dupa's daughters left, they took turns kissing their mother on the cheek through the plastic.

After guessing,

the employee disinfects the plastic sheet to prepare for another loving encounter in the hug bubble.

Do you see the problem?

Do you see the problem?

Hug bubble.

It is disgusting.

I mean, and it's all it is, is it's a bouncy house, you know, a clear platinum without the colorful pieces, a bouncy house castle with two arms.

And then your granny comes up.

You can stroke her hair with the plastic.

It's beyond sad.

Ugh.

Very, very, very upset we didn't come up with that.

Damn it.

And also got one of our...

One of our producers saying, hey, I'm a dialysis technician.

Urea is one of the waste products excreted in urine that we manually remove from people during dialysis your exit strategy is farming it from humans that are having it removed during dialysis you get some potassium and calcium to boot there you go we could be selling

we could be like another dan quayle

what

taking advantage of the

of this human systems

oh my goodness Well, I'll just go to aphids.

There's another thing they like to eat.

I'd like to turn that frown upside down and introduce to you a surefire 100%.

You hear

how weak it is, how unprofessional, how it's just, the messaging is all wrong.

This is our exit strategy.

We can come up with tomorrow's caviar.

And it's cheap.

It's cheap.

We can have producers all over the world, all over Gitmo Nation, keeping bugs.

Well, they'll be licensed.

They will be licensed affiliates.

We're franchising it.

And they will be approved bugs, but we market it as tomorrow's caviar.

Great in audio, too.

So hard, the problem with the tech grouch, and actually the tech hippie, too, is that I developed these voices for him.

And

the tech grouch in particular was painful.

Oh, it hurts your throat.

It hurts your throat, yeah.

And I tried to make adjustments.

So

I need to go to a voice coach to do that voice correctly because I was doing it incorrectly.

And I just said, Wait, wait, wait, you went to a voice coach?

No, I said I need to go to a voice coach to have them show me how to do that voice correctly without hurting my throat.

So all we need is like the tech grouch saying something like, I was OTG before the Unibomber was in the woods.

Something like that.

You know, that'll be good for the show.

Yeah, well, you can write the material if you want.

Will you perform?

Most of that was ad-libbed.

You are so talented.

Yeah, we could do that one of these days.

Yeah, we'll put it on the list of great projects.

This

exit strategies galore, everybody.

ITM, we had a great meetup in Pittsburgh yesterday.

We met at a park with a fireplace that we used, but it was still pretty chilly out.

After making cinnamon rolls and candied bacon to bring, I wanted to also have a healthier option, so I made deviled eggs.

But after 10 minutes in 20-degree weather, they froze into eggsicles.

Sad.

The more you know.

Wait a minute.

Stop.

Stop.

This is an exit strategy.

Eggsicles.

Are you kidding me?

Eggsicles.

You're going to kill him there.

The more you know, she continues.

Eggsicles.

And thank you.

I have a feeling that eggsicles, it could be a snack that children could just get into around the world.

Think about it.

I mean, who doesn't love a deviled egg?

Now, you could savor it for hours on end.

I'm liking this.

I'm all in on it.

You've got karma.

I don't think Tina will be very happy with this idea.

Which is,

she is from California and probably.

didn't do what I did, which was take the course on sexual harassment, employee, how to hire, how to fire, the thing that I was required to take and you never took

at Meevio.

I fast-forwarded through it, yes.

Yeah, you didn't take it.

The fact, if that, if you have this exemption in hand and you give it to your employer and they say, they ask you one question

about your religion.

And then she says, well, then you can go back and go talk to the,

you can go back and talk to them.

We can get you some more backup.

And then, no, no, no, if they ask you one simple question,

you can sue them.

And she says, Well, you don't want to have to have a hassle with your employer.

The amount of money you can make from suing your employer in California for something as simple as them asking you about religion

is millions of dollars.

Stop hello exit strategy.

Well, we just need to get employed somewhere.

We're just going to sue each other.

We just need to get employed.

It's never going to happen.

Let's find someone to employ us.

But this is like, and this invites another thing she overlooks, again, even though she's from California, she obviously never took the training.

No,

she never did the work.

Nope.

There will be what you experience.

experienced, which are the embedded scammers

through state

who get into a company just long enough to look look at it here, look long.

Yes, remember that Kleiner Perkins?

Yeah, find the open spot, the open store, and just go for the dough.

And they'll bring down tens of millions of dollars.

There's so much opportunity here in California.

She doesn't realize this when she says, well, we have to work.

You know, that's bull crap.

Maybe employees.

Wait, wait, wait.

Maybe that's because she wants you to come back to her and her lawyer pals because that's their gold mine.

They're not charging anything for this.

It's a value-for-value model.

Yeah, but yes.

And the value is once you have a problem, you come back to us and then we screw your.

Yeah, I'm sure

that's minor.

And if you're the person, we're just informing everyone that if you have this opportunity, and I think that document, if you imagine it being signed and then notarized,

it needs a raised seal.

It would look pretty good.

Yeah, a raised seal and everything.

Yeah, and it would look pretty good.

And you take it in, it's okay, whatever.

So sure.

Because

most employees don't give a crap.

We always joke about our exit strategy, but I think there's one that may actually work for us: a real exit strategy.

Are you ready for it?

I'm all ears.

This is the hot things.

It's so hot.

All the kids are doing it.

Even the NBA is doing it.

Have you heard of NFTs?

It's the new hot.

Lucky strike means fine tobacco?

No, no, no.

NFT stands for non-fungible token.

And

this is

being used

with digital media, either a piece of art or a piece of video.

And this one image is marked and registered on a blockchain, which is finite.

So

no extra tokens can be included.

And I'll give you the example of the NBA.

The NBA, it's like trading, it's like trading cards.

And there's only one of each, and your ownership of it is proven on the blockchain.

And these things are going for millions of dollars.

It's the ultimate collectible.

It is digital.

You don't have to send anything.

And people pay you in cryptocurrency to have ownership of these tokens,

of these digital assets.

and this thing is huge i hope it's as good as my one square inch of the moon nest it's very similar to that what the nba is doing so you can you can buy them but then you can also trade them and so the value goes up and as people are trading these digital assets um

the uh the nba is making money off of the trading

And so I was thinking, what could we possibly do?

And I came up with the following idea.

What if we had an NFT for the no agenda episodes?

And the initial price of each individual item would be complete ownership

of an episode.

And episode one would go up for sale for $1.

Episode 1325 would go up for sale for $1,325.

Do you see the Ponzi building?

Well, there's no Ponzi.

Ponzi implies that you're shoveling what you make back into the deal.

We're not, we're just taking it.

Yeah, that's what we're saying.

These things are crazy hot.

Wasn't there something we were thinking of turning it into a market?

Well, this is it.

This is it.

We could do jingles, we could do the artwork,

we could be selling.

By the time we're done, we'll be millionaires and we'll have nothing left.

We'll have no ownership.

Look them up.

Okay,

I'm identifying this as a huge deal.

The NBA is doing it, so it's legal.

Yeah.

If the NBA is doing it, then you know everything's on the up and up.

Yeah.

I'm very excited about

it.

Very excited about this.

Whereas we thought Bitcoin was beanie babies, this NFT stuff, it's truly the analog.

It is the beanie babies of cryptocurrency, and it's very scammy.

And

after some research, my initial initial thought was, we really want nothing to do with this.

And then I thought, wait a minute,

what if all of the producers, what if we all got in on the scam?

Because you can program who gets what when you sell it, and we drive this thing up like crazy and sell it all to some suckers who think that this thing is hot, even though it's really just a complete pump and dump by the No Agenda Nation.

Like collusion, full-on insider trading.

I mean, can we do that?

That's called conspiracy to commit a felony.

It's not a felony.

What do you mean?

It will be.

No,

we can get it under the wire if we do it now.

You're no fun.

You're no fun.

I'm all gang.

You're giving this, by the way.

I'm not completely.

Oh,

okay.

So we've got to work it out a little bit.

But, you know,

in essence, we just have to get people buying and selling this and tapping it up a little bit every single time

until some sucker comes in.

I mean, you have to have trust in the group, right?

You have to have trust that if someone buys something for 500 bucks, that there will be someone there who's going to buy it for 501 because that person will know.

So, we all have to have some kind of code so we can identify fellow travelers.

And the minute you're above, let's say, $10,000.

Sound like you're starting the communist party while you're doing this.

I'm sorry.

I'm an exit strategy.

I need a vacation.

NoagendaArtGenerator.com

for all your NFT joy.

Using that to mine Bitcoin.

And so that's changing.

But

I would like to go with this.

And I think we should look at everything in our green economy.

We should look at everything this way.

How much electricity does it cost to do that?

And you can shame people on that.

And I think if you are a podcaster, and you are worried about how much electricity is being wasted, you need to make shorter podcasts.

Much, much shorter.

All podcasts for green energy should be no longer than 15 minutes, really.

You should have a green podcast.

You should have a label.

We should set up a.

Exit strategy!

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Green, green podcast.

No, no, we need a word.

Green podcast, seal of approval, podcast,

podcast, green podcast certified.

No, it has to be something better than that.

Come on, brainstorm.

It wouldn't take us more than a few minutes to dream something up that would work.

And you being the inventor of the process

and the promoter of podcasting 2.0, you're in a perfect position to be part of this.

Yes.

What does a lead stand for?

LEED is the certification, right?

What?

LEED, L-E-E-D.

That's the certification for buildings, leadership and energy in environmental design, lead.

They have the certification.

So maybe we should just make it P.

Peed.

There you go.

No, that doesn't peed.

That's it, exactly.

P-E-E-D,

your podcast is peed certified.

Nice, yeah.

We need a logo.

It needs to look like the lead logo, or it'll just say P.

No, it needs to look, you know, that little kid that's on the back of vans that's peeing at something, or like the little kids.

There's your logo right there.

We just license that.

You too can have an official piss pod.

I mean, it just keeps writing itself, John.

Oh, yeah.

Okay, potential exit strategy, ladies and gentlemen.

We have enough stuff to deal with.

Well, I will say.

But if it's audio only,

okay, then it makes it silly.

There's one thing that I had the thought about.

If someone hasn't already done this, you might want to consider it.

Clubhouse, I mean, I've not been on there.

I've seen plenty of videos.

I'm not interested at all.

Please don't.

Why do you see videos if it's audio only?

No, because people record it and then post their the screen recording of their phone where you see the little icons light up when they're talking and they record it.

That's how you record

a clubhouse meeting.

So it's a video of what people look at on their phone, which is just a screen filled with people on stage or not or in the audience.

What I don't understand is why anyone is wasting any time on this.

You need to go straight to corporate.

This thing, this conference call app, that's what it is.

It's a conference call app, should be sold sold as a conference call app.

It would revolutionize conference calls.

Conference calls in business suck ass.

The free numbers suck.

They're horrible.

They're no good.

This is perfect.

You can moderate.

You can give someone the microphone, bring them up on stage.

You can shut people down.

This is a great product for business.

For people, it is destructive and stupid.

Just as a consumer app.

Well, that's

sounds like an exit strategy.

I didn't want to mention this baby over to business.

That's what it is.

I mean,

we too can just license the Chinese back-end technology.

That's where they get it from.

Yeah.

The Chinese will license to anybody best price.

Best price.

One of our dudes named Ben might want to help us along.

Help us exit.

Yes, we need a dude named Ben that can help us on this because we're too old.

Speak for yourself, young man.

Time to exit.

Time to exit.

First of all, they did mention the forgery issue, which is something you should be concerned about if you want to actually take this seriously, even though there's no reason to.

And then you can have a discussion of that at the same time promoting somebody tweeting pictures of their card,

which then can be extracted from the tweet or the Instagram post, and you can cut and paste and create your own cards.

Although, as I, because I brought this up before on the show, somebody sent me a link.

I think it was Wyoming's,

I think it was the Wyoming

State Health Department.

They actually have the card online,

printable.

If you're a doctor, you just go to this link and you download the card, print it on some cardstock.

John, boom.

John, you're pretty good with the GIMP exit strategy, baby.

Making fake

fake vaccination cards.

We take Bitcoin.

Now, the question in my mind is, if that's true, why does the testing have to involve going up the nose and down the throat when your mouth is obviously filled with COVID viruses or you wouldn't need these rules?

I'll do you one better on this.

And I'm very, very excited about this.

NASCAR

just announced.

at the Atlanta Motor Speedway,

they will be using COVID-detecting detecting dogs.

And I'm very excited

because

if this is true, okay, that's the topper.

If this is true, you win the show.

Then

if this is true, then you can just

don't swab me, just have your dog sniff me.

That happens at the airport.

I'm okay.

In fact, NASCAR went so far as to say in a bulletin sent to Teams, quote, these dogs have shown to be as effective as PCR tests in identifying an infected person and are already being used by professional sports teams, hospitals, and many other businesses to screen employees and guests.

Well, this is fantastic.

And it's an exit strategy.

We have nothing but dog people listening to this show.

We need to start immediately go start training, certifying.

Well, that brings up and we have a distributed dog COVID sniff dog sniffing protection system.

We can rent everybody's dog out.

This

brings it to the fore, which is how do you train a dog to do this?

Well, we'll get the we'll get the deal.

You just don't tell the dog, hey, dog,

while you're sniffing around, which you seem to be doing all day, it's all you do.

Can you, when you spot a COVID person, can you let us know?

Let's see.

We'll be working.

Who is this?

Oh, this is NASCAR.

We'll be working with the 360K9 group, a provider of specialized detection dogs that serves industries ranging from the federal government, sports teams, cruise lines, hospital, and other large venues.

So this is already rolling out, but it's not being talked about.

They've worked with the USDA since 2013 to detect viruses in plants with great operational success.

So I guess you just, you know, you just take an infected swab oozing with the COVID and you'd say, here, Fido, sniffy.

Their newest company, BioDetection K9.

Oh, that's a, that's a, that's a TV.

There goes your exit strategy.

These people, they got it.

That they got the name.

Bio Detection K9.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

Oh, shoot.

Now, meanwhile, in America mainstream media.

And finally, if you like mac and cheese, you'll love this.

Kraft has created the first ever grilled cheese incense to make your home smell cheesy all the time.

Yeah, baby, that's America.

Foam finger number one.

We rocking it.

Who wants to go into somebody's house that sinks of cheap

beyond cheap cheddar?

This is a cheap scent.

It's probably just chemicals that are they heat up and it makes it smell like a like cheap cheese.

Really?

You've got to think that maybe there was an accident in the lab.

I'm like,

what is this crap?

Hey, add that.

I have an idea.

We'll turn it into scented candles.

Hey, now, exit strategy.

There's a thought.

What about actual mac and cheese candles?

Out of real.

Okay, maybe not.

It'll burn.

Now, meanwhile, in America mainstream media.

And finally, if you like mac and cheese, you'll love this.

Kraft has created the first ever grilled cheese incense to make your home smell cheesy all the time.

Yeah, baby, that's America.

Foam finger number one.

We rocking it.

Who wants to go into somebody's house that sinks of cheap

beyond cheap cheddar?

This is a cheap scent.

It's probably just chemicals that they heat up and it makes it smell like cheap cheese.

Really?

You've got to think that maybe there was an accident in the lab.

Like, wow, what is this crap?

Hey, add that.

I have an idea.

We'll turn it into

candles.

Hey, now, exit strategy.

There's a thought.

What about actual mac and cheese candles?

Not a real.

Okay, maybe not.

It'll burn.

The FTC and there's somebody, some of the group was during the Obama administration made a huge fuss about people on Twitter specifically

pretending to like something because they got paid to pretend to like it.

Right.

And they were supposed to, now they had to be disclosed.

You had to disclose doing this.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Well, I don't see any disclosures going on on TikTok.

That woman's little bust out there, which I thought was admirable on her part,

I would say indicates that there's a bunch of people that you see them going

showing up, taking the vaccine, and then getting paid.

This is against the law.

That's what I was thinking.

That's not the way it's supposed to work.

Where's the enforcement?

You know, one of my

pets.

Where is the enforcement?

He said, we need enforcement.

Where is the enforcement of such a law.

We need to follow the rules.

Well, it's a law.

It's not a rule.

It's a law, and it's being broken left and right, and nobody's doing anything about it.

They should be arresting people left and right and throwing them in jail.

That's what I think.

The United States Center for Disease Control and Prevention has reached an agreement with popular video game deals Twitter account Wario64.

Yes, Wario 64

Wario64 has about 900,000 followers on Twitter, and they've come to an agreement so that the Twitter account, not saying that's a person, a company, just the Twitter account, Wario 64 will now be paid to announce COVID-19 vaccine availability nationwide.

I mean, these are good little deals you can get from the government today.

Shit, man, exit strategy.

We'll just reverse everything, take some dough, tell everyone vaccines are great, and then we'll split it all and we'll make everybody whole on the back end.

Yeah, exactly.

As we exit,

bye.

But those are those are customers, and you have to pay for the system.

And so Apple communicates with them.

And I got an email: hey, podcaster, we're going to tell you about this new stuff.

And it's probably going on right now.

They just started actually.

So that, you know, that's the Apple customer.

Who is not a customer of Apple?

Apple is these app developers.

They don't pay Apple to use their API.

It was just an accident that it was available.

And so within Apple, when these changes occurred, there was no one representing app developers who were sucking off this index.

And so they weren't considered.

And it just got turned off overnight.

It's just, it's a complete mess.

And they're not going to try and fix that.

So with some from the future foresight, this podcast index.org turns out to be a lifesaver.

I mean, mean we've we've like big shows are just gone not available on any app anywhere wow yeah

well you lucked out

what i mean lucked out you got the you got you got the index there for people to uh yeah i mean it was hey fall back on it's not like anyone's good news not like anyone's paying us for this i'm just saying podcasting lucked out that's what happened well They're not paying you, but eventually you're going to monetize this thing and screw them just like Apple did.

Exit strategy.

Well, since you just expose my exit strategy, I'm cutting you out of the deal, Dvorak.

And this is, this is, I feel very, very bad because this is going to, this is exactly what the World Economic Forum has predicted.

You're not going to own anything slave.

Not because you won't, don't want to, because you can't.

And people are talking about prices doubling in the next year.

Doubling.

What is going on?

What is going on?

Well,

these things blow up, of course, because these ideas aren't perpetual.

Right.

But that'll cause a huge crash if that happens, won't it?

I don't know.

I don't know what's going on.

Maybe you should just sit tight and

make even more money when you sell the house if you can.

Because then again, there's always there's a collapse.

That's what I'm saying.

Eventually, there's got to be a collapse.

Who knew that my exit strategy would be the house?

Most people's exit strategy is the house.

Yeah.

That's why it's a shame that the millennials haven't been able to get in on this.

Yeah, the property ladder is important.

Like symptoms, and that was conflated with the COVID numbers.

Yeah, I think, you know, what bothers me, and it's a problem that you and I have with this particular show.

A year ago, we pretty much had already figured most of these things out.

We figured out the droplets.

We had the numbers.

We saw the flu cases were gone long before that was recognized.

We looked at

the true data.

We saw the

bait and switch charts and graphs that they kept pulling up.

I think Olsterholm still thinks we're going to die next week.

And the gain of function research, all of this stuff, all of this stuff we have talked about.

And of course, branded by many as COVID deniers and nut jobs.

Conspiracy theorists.

Yes, and then it comes out.

All we're doing is playing clips, I might add.

Adam Curry's a nut job.

and and the only

by the way i think you should sue him

for not actually being a nut job

that's not gonna i think there was libel is what he said oh interesting exit strategy talk to an attorney about that exit strategy anybody john and i yes that i'm talking to the trolls now

we had an idea uh to really do a morning zoo type episode of a show.

Yeah.

And we were talking about this after the last show, actually.

And we've already put together the cast,

but

we're missing one important member.

So to review for a morning zoo show.

Now,

are you going to be my sidekick or am I your sidekick?

It doesn't matter much.

Well,

I'm thinking about producing the

thing and making Darren O'Neill your sidekick.

Ooh, yeah.

That's all he has to say, by the way.

Ooh, yeah.

And I'll go, everybody is wagging.

And then he can he can do, yes.

Okay, I think that's a good, so you're the producer.

You're coach, Coach John.

You got to have a name.

You got to have a zoo name.

You can't, you can't.

John,

yeah, you can't just be John C.

Dvorak.

So you're Coach John.

No, I had to ask him serve MK Ultra John or something.

JMK.

I don't know.

We'll come up with it.

That's the least of our problems.

Our real problem is what we're going to discuss right now.

Yes.

Okay.

So here's the crew because you need a crew for the morning zoo.

So we got me, we got Darren.

We got Coach JCD,

known as the Widowmaker.

Then we figured we need to have

the,

now we need a woman who

also is there and does stuff like, oh, Adam,

and

she also reads the news.

And that, that is obviously Dame Jennifer.

And she says snide things besides just, oh, Adam.

Give me an example of something snide.

Well, in other words, if there'd be some moment where there's something that could be a double entendre, she's the one who introduces the she says things.

Right, right, right, right.

She, okay, oh, that's what she said would come from her.

Yes.

Yes.

This is going to be legendary.

Now, then we needed, actually, we wanted a, well, you can't be coach.

We need a coach for sports.

And in sports,

when it comes to morning zoo format, you want a guy who is familiar with sports, but can also be the community affairs director.

And we'll call him coach.

And it has to be a black guy.

And since we only know one black guy, it's got to be Mo.

Yeah, Mo Fax.

He's perfect.

And he's a sports guy.

He's a sports guy, so he can do it.

And then the final thing is where we're stuck.

We're stuck.

And that is

the entertainment reporter that has to be a gay guy and has to sound like a gay guy.

We talked about this, and we decided because of today's market, you can't have a guy who sounds gay.

We have to have a genuine gay person.

You got to have a gay guy, yes.

But he has to also sound gay, which is a stereotype mostly found on the West Coast.

It's a West Coast gay.

Because everyone in the rest of the country, they bet you everyone.

I've listened to enough talk shows and podcasts where the gays get together and complain about this accent

that the West Coast guys have.

And it's the Hollywood gay, bullcrap,

phony baloney, gay-ish sound.

But, but, so we have requirements.

You have to sound gay, but you also have to be gay.

Yeah, you have to be gay.

And we were taking auditions.

So, yeah, I was supposed to have a script ready.

I won't have it already probably until the Thursday show because we want everyone to read it from the same script.

I'm going to hound you.

I'm going to hound you over this.

You know, we need to get that script.

You can

definitely get it written.

We need to get that script up and running.

Yeah.

So they have to do this and they have to do it in their best

manner, best man, get best.

You know, it said we were up for criticism for even bringing this kind of thing up.

Well, what's interesting is I'm already seeing people.

But if anybody wants to audition.

Yeah.

And just so you know, the reason why our entertainment reporter has to be gay, because that's the rules in Hollywood.

In case you hadn't noticed,

you can't play someone on the spectrum unless you're on the spectrum.

Everyone knows this now.

So we're just following the rules, man.

Every day, all day, without exception.

Yeah, if you go, if you watch any of these shows,

but the reason that this formula comes to mind is because this is, if anyone has a morning zoo show in their neighborhood, you'll notice that this is pretty much the model that everyone uses because it's because it works

because it's so exciting and fun to listen to i don't know if it's still working that well and there's

it works and there's a lot of banter banter between the two hosts and the gay hollywood guy oh yeah totally yeah and then and that's when jennifer just go jumps in and says that's what she said you know that's just in there we're talking to the to the entertainment guy and then dame jennifer comes in with that it's going to be beautiful it will be a piece of legendary

pilot We're doing a pilot.

Yeah.

Half-hour pilot.

A half-hour.

Oh, my God.

Okay.

We're doing a half-hour pilot.

Who's writing this pilot?

Because it can't be.

Well, I'll be doing a lot of the writing, but most of it's just going to be ad libs, obviously, because you're doing a morning

show.

I think a lot of these shows have some music.

No, they have all kinds of music beds running underneath when they're talking.

There's all kinds of stuff.

Yeah, we can do that.

Yeah, that's fine.

So it'll be good.

I'm very excited.

We might get work.

It's this is our final exit strategy.

It's on you, anonymous gay guy out there who's going to save us.

And they go, and these drivers go out and it's every night.

It's all over Austin.

They're parking, they're driving, they're comparing their systems, and the bass

reverberates for miles.

And you know, I was just as you're describing this, they have those in parts of California,

But that's one of the reasons we're moving.

But how about this for our exit strategy?

Ooh, ooh, another one.

You produce some tapes

or CDs in the case, it depends on the year, and you go for, you find these guys, there's a bunch of them, there's hundreds of them that have these systems, and you have them play these things through neighborhoods, which are announcements.

Texas citizens.

And it would be like, it would be like those old, remember those, in the movies, you see the car going down with the big bull horns on its roof?

Yes.

And it would be,

today there's a sale on at Rayleigh's.

Asparagus is 99 cents a pound.

So we're going to

become

sellers of advertising space in this medium?

Is that your idea?

No one else is doing it.

Okay, I'll take it into consideration.

Rise.

I mean, I don't know.

What are you talking about?

There's no sound effects.

John, John, out here in South Dakota, the one horse has died.

Adam, tell us more.

Well, uh, today we had four tornadoes just out at the same time, and a horse has died, John.

A horse has died.

Where was the horse?

Where was the horse?

Was it a far a farm horse, a dray horse, was it a racing horse?

What kind of horse?

It was a horse.

I don't know.

Stop asking questions.

Just tell me to stay safe.

Stay safe.

That's how you do a report.

That's NPR.

We need to hijack that.

Whatever happened to people going in to the TV studio and hijacking it?

Where are those good old days?

I think they've put in countermeasures so you can't really do it.

Too bad.

Because

those days were fun.

And we could go into this NPR station and take over.

Get out of the way, lady.

You're boring.

You're killing us with that.

But nobody listens.

So what good is it going to do?

There's that.

Okay, okay.

I'm just trying to think of exit strategies.

That's a big way.

Yeah, yeah.

Permitless.

Yes.

Permitless, Carrie.

Out here, we read that now you don't need a permit or training.

Just buy a gun just everywhere.

That's correct.

There's a vending machine.

You can pick up a Ruger.

Oh, my God.

Great idea.

I think I will get one going.

That would be a great business.

Just have a Ruger vending machine on the streets.

I think so, too.

At the airport on your way out, though.

Oh, of course.

Perfect.

You know, we can get those.

You can get the iPod.

You can get

an extra battery pack and a blow-up pillow.

And there's a Ruger.

And here's a 9-mil.

It's perfect.

That's a good idea.

All right.

Another exit strategy is in the works.

We may not even return Thursday.

Right place at right time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What are we doing wrong, bro?

What are we doing wrong, John?

Everything we do is wrong.

All right.

Well, here's my exit strategy, my personal exit strategy.

I was so happy to hear a U.S.

Senator speak in these terms.

It is U.S.

Senator Loomis.

Who is Loomis?

L-U-M-M-I-S.

She, a newbie?

She's one of the, I think she's one of the radical Republicans.

Radical Republicans?

I think.

I don't know.

Never mind what I just said.

I don't know what I'm talking about.

It could be.

It could be.

I'm just curious.

I've heard her name.

I think it's a woman.

Yes, she's new.

Cynthia Marie Loomis.

She's one of the new Trumpers.

I think she's a Trump.

Oh, wait.

She has a full name.

She said, Cynthia Marie Loomis Witterspahn.

Oh,

I don't know her.

Stay safe.

Is an American politician and attorney serving as the junior United States Senator from Wyoming, IS.

She's the first woman to represent Wyoming in Senate.

A member of the Republican Party, she served as the U.S.

Representative for Wyoming at a large congressional district from 2009 to 2017.

Okay.

She's all in on the Bitcoin, not just for herself, but also for the state of Wyoming.

I like this report.

Senator Cynthia Lemmis of Wyoming is the founder of the Financial Innovation Caucus in Congress.

She's been a major advocate for cryptocurrencies on Capitol Hill.

And I sat down with her for CNBC's Financial Advisor Summit, and she told me she envisions Bitcoin, in particular, becoming an important component of individual retirement portfolios.

She believes it can serve as a hedge against inflation as the size of the nation's debt relative to GDP hits historic highs.

I encourage people to buy and hold.

I encourage them to say Bitcoin for their retirement, for their future.

And that's because as the Congress spends trillions and trillions of dollars and is flooding our economy and the world economy with U.S.

dollars, there's no way that we cannot debase the value of the U.S.

dollars.

And Lema's practices, which she preaches, she's an investor in Bitcoin as well.

I buy Bitcoin and I hold Bitcoin.

You buy Bitcoin.

Oh, yeah.

You have Bitcoin.

I do.

How much Bitcoin do you have?

Well, I only have, I think, five Bitcoin.

So only five Bitcoin, but she bought them in 2013 for about $300 each.

So she can now add a couple of zeros to that number.

And Wyoming is in the process of setting up its own crypto banking system that Lemis hopes will become a model for other states as well.

So we have El Salvador, Mexico,

Mexican banks now starting, Paraguay, and now the state of Wyoming with their own.

I don't know what's wrong with gold, but okay.

Nothing's wrong with gold.

I don't think people are against gold at all.

But okay.

No, no, no, it seems like they are.

No, the only thing different between Bitcoin and gold is it's a lot easier to pay with.

Can I have the antibodies test?

So I'm negative for COVID, negative for antibodies.

And she told me, she said,

there's actually evidence, and she's a nurse in hospitals as well, that babies that drank breast milk from mothers who had antibodies had antibodies.

And I'm thinking, exit strategy product.

Seriously, I mean, it's made by nature.

Well, if you listen to what you just heard.

Because that was, now, again, what you just heard was someone who got the vaccination.

Right.

And it was the spike proteins that got into the milk.

Yes, no, I know.

I'm just saying that that was an interesting side note.

But

So,

what she discussed earlier was the so-called self-spreading vaccines.

We've talked about that, at least we've seen it.

I think we talked about it briefly.

And that would be through the use of these exosomes.

Nice.

I recently supported

a SPAC,

a SPAC white paper, 250 listed SPACs from 2018 to 2021 for my firm.

I believe things are developing with the SEC intervention slash adaption to allow SPACs to become more typical, a more typical vehicle for public listing.

Any input from John?

Well,

I think you're probably right.

Can you just please send me the list?

Yeah.

John's like, I want to invest.

I mean, you got, I mean, I want to, you send me a note, John at Dvorak, D V O R, D, V, O, R, A, K,

dot org.

And I want to, because I think there's some SPAC opportunities that are, because when these things take off, I mean, you're talking about one week 10 bagger.

It's ludicrous investment.

So yeah.

10 bagger, like $10,000?

10 bagger means 10x.

Wow.

Exit strategy.

Bring on the spects.

You know, speaking of exit strategy, one presented itself to us just out of the blue.

Yeah.

Yeah, there's a whole Twitter thread.

This one person's like, hey, I really like the No Agenda show.

I'm trying to figure out the lingo.

And Tina, the keeper, jumped in, you know, people explaining what

certain things meant.

But then I got this tweet.

I haven't replied to it yet.

Please excuse the noob question, but what is the No Agenda Zephyr economic indicator?

I've searched on Trading View, but I can find nothing of the sort.

Now, Trading View is a charting program where you can do technical analysis.

I was thinking we should have Horovitz make one of those indicators.

It's just a little code.

That would be the No Agenda Zephyr economic indicator.

People subscribe to those

indicators, like, you know, $20 a month.

Yeah, they do.

They do.

Just a thought.

I don't know if that's an exit strategy, but it's a good idea.

Just thought I'd bring it up.

I like the idea myself.

That is why there is so much fear in the country about what this means for Roe, because it didn't stop Texas.

And the idea of pitting neighbors against each other, colleagues snitching on each other because someone is desperately trying to, potentially, desperately trying to safeguard their health and

perhaps the health of their unborn child.

This is just, it's beyond handmade sense.

Wow, you got it.

All right, all right, all right.

You need to, you need to bend over because this is well deserved.

That was a great clip, great catch.

Clip of the day.

Damn, Skippy.

And you're trying to protect the health of your unborn child

by killing it.

Wow.

I would like to reiterate this point that I am completely okay with abortions as long as we are also, and we get the television rights, able to show capital punishment executions live on television.

I think that is a fair trade-off.

Death for death, we want the rights to produce.

Yeah, that's the exit strategy that would make us multimillionaires, but unfortunately, that's never going to happen.

Not going to happen.

Oh, my God.

By the way, the most dangerous bike I ever drove was a Honda 50.

It doesn't go.

It doesn't stop.

It just doesn't go.

It doesn't stop.

So you get it going.

You know, you finally get up to some speed.

You can't stop the damn thing.

That is a death trap.

I'm glad they took him off the market.

My last ride was Motocross.

It was a celebrity ride.

And

I had always ridden like 125, maybe a 250.

They gave me a KTM 450.

And I went up on the table jump and I landed and somehow my wrist just kind of went

down

and the bike shot off and I've landed flat on my back and that was it.

I couldn't poop straight for a year after that.

Weren't we doing this show when that happened?

I have no idea.

It's a horrible story.

Well, let's start off with our donations.

Yes.

Instead of our tales of woe.

Tales of old dudes and bikes.

Hey, that's another exit strategy.

I hear that car talk has gone, so it can be old dudes with bike talk.

Yeah.

What do you need a special bottle for?

If you can't get your special bottles, why don't you get the 750s that are very common and available and use those instead of the funny-shaped 750 that you obviously have custom-made because you can't get them for some unknown reason?

That doesn't make any sense to this story.

Nothing's going to die in the vats.

Well, I actually had a thought about this.

How about jugging the wine up if you're going to be close to it?

No, you're close.

You're close.

I'm thinking, stay with me because we are uniquely positioned for this this is an exit strategy no agenda box wine think about it well I don't have to be game I'm game for no agenda box wine except for there's a couple problems one

most of these places have bottling facilities on site the bottling facility to make boxed wines is specialized equipment that would cost more than it's worth really i thought well then why do they even put it in boxes if it's so expensive?

Because they have

Franzia and those guys who make the boxed wine, they're the inventors of it pretty much or Franzia, I think it's European companies.

We can't just order.

That's what they have.

They have this specialized equipment that makes boxed wines.

We can't just order from them a whole bunch of boxes?

You'd have to get the wine to them, and they'd have to job it to you.

Well, this doesn't sound like that.

I don't think it would be.

I mean, there are other people making boxed wines.

I've noticed them.

You know, these different kinds of generic boxed wines that Target has a bunch of crazy labeled right.

This is where we should be

in Target.

We should be in Target with a dynamite packaging, and it should be like, you know, it should be an Easter egg where people are like, dude, have you tried the new No Agenda box wine?

It's like, that's just really good.

Yeah.

John C.

Dvorak, renowned.

That would actually

say this.

I have had good boxed wines.

It's always French.

How about No Agenda wines?

There is a possibility of making boxed wine that's quality wine in the United States.

I've just never had it.

Right.

I'm just thinking ahead, you know, for when we're 80.

Well, you know,

we could have a whole lot.

I'm game for this.

I'm game to build out a boxed wine company.

Yes.

No agenda woke wine would be one.

Woke wine.

Just call it that.

Well, I think we want to have some other sub-labels, perhaps.

Woke.

Yeah, just wine for you.

Big black letters.

Woke.

It's the wine for the progressive liver.

Yeah.

Something like that.

And actually,

progressives, believe it or not, are the ones who drink a lot of the boxed wines because they don't know any better.

And they put it in the refrigerator.

That's what's cool about it, especially the whites.

You go and the box goes in the refrigerator and you go in, would you like a glass of wine, honey?

And you go open the refrigerator door and you

squirt out some of the boxed wine into a glass and you bring it out.

Just some shard for you.

And I say, shard?

Some shard for you?

Shard.

Or Supreme Pinot Grigio would be an artist.

By the way, we had a guy at.

I got to get this winemaker's name.

The guy was up at the.

Wait, wait, wait.

Woke wine.

It's the wine for the progressive generation.

Come on, man.

I'm feeling it.

I'm in.

Shard for you.

I mean, there's other shard.

It's never ending.

They would say that on the side on the elbow, it was shard

shard

yeah

see cab do the other one cab

shard shard and cab

i'm so happy i got you excited i thought i was not gonna merlot no how about that one

merlot no

yes I

and think about the fantastic art we could have.

And, you know, so, and, and, and by the way, we'll put lost dogs on our carton.

We got to bring in more of these great elements.

And we got to.

Like the lost dog.

Yeah.

It would be huge.

The idea of a big black cube, though, just as the art

for woke.

Something about a just a black cube with the word cab on the side in huge letters like Franklin.

That wouldn't be Franklin Gothic.

You'd want some serif font, but you'd just have it on there.

It was super bold, super heavy.

Yeah.

I'm, I'm so, I'm so, oh shit, man.

Someone already has wokewine.com.

What the hell?

Woke.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

There goes our exit strategy.

No, it's, it's still available.

You can buy it for three and a half thousand dollars.

However, you can lease to own.

Did you lease a domain name?

Only $292 a month.

How much?

$292 a month.

It's lease to own.

Lease to own.

How about woke.wine?

I think there's a.wine.

I think this is.

I think we have a product here.

And everyone can chip in.

Everyone can work about it.

And maybe they can chip in.

Chip in, yes.

Chip in.

Maybe we can.

We probably have a producer that listens to the show that knows all about boxed wines.

Probably works for one of the big wine boxing companies.

Oh, and by the way, small batch.

Oh, yeah, small batch.

Artisan.

Artisan boxed wine.

There you go.

And we need

people are patrols are already offering to invest in this project.

Yeah,

I know.

This could be dynamic.

You could do one of those public, one of those, there's a type of investment you can do.

Yes.

That is where people, you know, the beer

breweries do it constantly.

Yes, I'm fine.

And you can get this straight money in there.

Well, next thing you know, we're the boxed wine guys.

Yep.

Right.

Who's going to run it?

Who's going to run the business?

Oh, we have to hire somebody.

Yeah, I know.

Anyone we know?

Are we going to do auditions?

We're going to like job interviews.

What's the auditions?

That's a funny way of putting it.

Isn't that what it is?

Yeah, kind of.

I think we should

put it on the burner.

It's on the burner, ladies and gentlemen.

It is on the burner.

The woke wine.

But this is the one that has everybody everybody really worried.

And this comes from The Guardian, just as reliable as the Daily Mail.

Fox News, check it out, is about to launch a 24-hour weather channel.

And this has climate crisis researchers worried about the channel's reach to perpetuate misinformation and advance political goals through the weather.

This is so obvious.

I'm pissed at us.

I'm pissed at ourselves for not seeing this obvious exit strategy.

Yeah, start a weather channel that debunks climate change.

Yes.

What were we thinking?

Yeah, well.

We weren't.

We weren't.

Fox Weather.

Fox Weather, everybody.

With Shep Smith.

We'll bring him back.

A 24-hour channel devoted to all things meteorological.

promises cutting-edge display technology.

Forecasting experts surrounding every major weather event.

And I bet there'll be panel discussions.

Boots on the

panel.

I want to work for this outfit.

This is, that looks like fun.

Let's bring in our panel.

We'll talk about it.

Yes, we'll talk about the weather.

The wine box, the woke box with the 14 years, we felt wouldn't connect.

You know, it's too early in

the exit strategy.

We're not, we haven't positioned it yet.

By the way, in the show notes today,

one of our Mark Dant,

I think you're on the email.

He did two product shots of the No Agenda box wine known as Woke Wine.

Yeah, Woke Wine.

Oh, my God.

It's so beautiful what he's done.

It's Bord, B-O-R-D for you, and Shard for you.

I mean, it's...

This product is real.

All we need is some hooch to put in it, and we can sell it.

Well, there are a bunch of private labelers that maybe can do the job for us.

We need someone to step in because this is big.

You know, there's an Austin box wine company that's doing upscale box wines.

Who knew?

Yeah.

Well, this is the thing you have to do.

It has to be upscale because that's the key.

Yeah.

The question is: do we spell wine with an H or not?

That's.

No.

Well,

he's not.

Yes, I don't think that was his goal.

His goal was to.

It was to trumpet the greatness of diversity.

All right.

Let's back it up a little and continue.

Theater owners and producers and the

That's something that the Dramatist Guild, which represents playwrights, composers, and lyricists, have done as well.

They've added an inclusion rider to their contracts.

And then there's an organization called the Broadway Advocacy Coalition.

It just won a

all-white.

And that's something that the Dramatist Guild, which represents playwrights, composers, and lyricists, have done as well.

They've added an inclusion rider to their contracts.

And then there's an organization called the Broadway Advocacy Coalition.

It just won a special Tony Award.

That's working with some current Broadway shows, The Lion King, Company, Tina.

Jalen Livingston is a member of the group, and he says he hopes the training sticks.

Oh, man.

This is depressing.

I'd like me a musical.

Was that four?

That was two, three.

Yeah,

you got two more.

This is, it's worth it.

It's worth it.

I'm, I'm kind of digging this nut.

Here we go.

Let's go.

Exit strategy.

Exit strategy.

Exit strategy.

The woke awards.

What do you think?

Ooh.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The woke awards.

Nice.

Yeah.

Had Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, now Nikki Mac.

They are collateralizing debt.

Does it sound anything like

2008, 2009, where we're going to have all of this stuff built into these bonds?

And that's where the money is.

It's trading these bonds as expertly explained by Alison McDowell.

So this idea of a social impact bond is essentially reimagining our lives and social relationships as future debt projections, whether that's being educated, whether that is health care, whether that is housing access or subsidies, food, subsidies, being involved in the judicial system.

All of these have numbers attached to them.

And then they say, well,

if we can provide an evidence-based what works intervention, we will pay this much money, which is a smaller amount than we would pay if all these bad things happened to you and we would have to pay a lot more to fix you after the fact.

We'll just preemptively fix you.

Only the problem is, it's essentially pre-crime.

Now, the problem is, is that the terms of these agreements, which are essentially privatizing government services, privatizing services that the government should just be de facto providing, but then the government, through austerity, says we can't provide it unless we can be assured that it works.

And so they outsource it to these nonprofits, some of whom are faith-based nonprofits to do these social welfare services under conditions of a performance-based contract.

The profit isn't in the tiny slice of return on investment.

It is actually in the fact that they're going to securitize all the debt and that hedge funds are going to trade off of that debt.

The game can't go unless you have the structure.

They can't run the bets unless the game goes on.

So they have to build the game.

And that game is being built right now.

They need all of the data to slosh around in a big pool because they can't justify taking profit off the fact that you didn't become addicted if they can't track that against some intervention they put you on in middle school.

All of that data has to interlock, and that's what's going to come with digital identity.

And that digital identity system is something that the World Wide Web Consortium has been working on for like 15 years.

And I had thought it was going to come through education transcript records, but clearly now it seems like the much bigger plan is to have it come through these medical passport protocols.

And there you go.

Oh,

you you talked about a funny roundabout way to get to the end.

Now,

and it was good.

So you brought up the 2008 debacle.

So what we have to do is figure out what is the equivalent of

the credit default swap.

What's the short?

No, it's the credit default swaps.

Because it wasn't shorted.

It was they just went under it.

You couldn't short those things.

You just picked up the insurance.

This is our massive exit strategy.

Is that that what I'm hearing?

The plotting over exits are

beyond an exit strategy.

This would be a massive amount of wealth that we just have.

The whole no agenda gitmo nation could exit.

Oh, yeah, we could pay everyone off.

We could all exit.

Excellent.

Now, there's something that you need to know, which may offer an opportunity for an exit strategy.

I know you're interested.

I am.

Dame Angela from Vegas contacted me and she says, Adam, things are going so well.

I know she has a production company, and she's just

Vegas had the biggest revenue month last month of all time.

Not pre-COVID of all time.

She says the master mandate is pretty much gone.

All the plexiglass that was separating, all the players is gone.

And everyone, you know, Adele is now

getting ready to perform her the residency.

So Vegas is back.

She's got business.

She says, I need to do something.

And she is going to create, and she has the chops for it, a documentary about Gitmo Nation, the producers specifically, and value for value.

And she's going to set up a website and people can talk about the value that they received from No Agenda, from No Agenda Nation, the value they've given back, really about the value for value aspect.

And she's going to go to meetups and she's going to, and she wants, of course, interview you and interview me.

And then it hit me, John.

Wow.

And I said, well, I said, well, first of all, how can we help?

Well, ATUs would be great and promote on the show.

Of course, no problem.

How are you going to make money?

How are you going to fund it?

She says, well, it has to be value for value.

Okay.

So she understands how to do that.

And then I thought, holy crap, this is it.

If there's one project that Adam Curry and John C.

Dvorak can pull off for an exit strategy with a companion documentary, it is the value for value book.

Throw out the pepper book, throw out the vinegar vinegar book.

This is the book.

We could do this and it would be a classic for times.

It could usher in a new economic structure.

What pepper book?

I'm just making it up.

Well, the program.

A real book, not a giblet, a real book.

We both have to write.

I can tell you, being in the book business, the Times,

books are one-shots.

They go out and they come out and then they die.

They're not sustaining unless

you set up a seminar system where every month you have to go on the road and you go to some location and you talk to like

either free seminars or if you want to scam them into buying an upgrade or some cheap hundred dollar deal where you get maybe a hundred people.

And you do that time and time again,

and then you sell the book at the end of the seminar.

And you, it's it's it's a dead end.

sorry okay well i can't write the book

i'm not saying that you can't make some money from a book and it would be a good book to do and it's probably something that should be done and you can make some money from seminars too but you know

it's it's a dead end and it's a grind that's worse grind than we're doing well that's no exit strategy then not if it's a grind i thought it could be a fun book though it could be a useful book we could finally help people get out of the pricing mechanism of Silicon Valley.

Do it for the children.

I agree.

We should do the book anyway.

Ah, okay.

Now you're talking.

Let's just do the book.

Maybe we set up a Zoom masterclass.

We just do the book.

Okay.

We'll do the book.

So I'm sure that we have pig farmers.

We got hog farmers amongst our producers.

Let's get the inside dopio on the pig piss.

You know, the idea that somebody said they're burning pig urine out of the blue wish is what triggered my thinking here.

Yeah.

That this stuff doesn't come out of nowhere.

No, the troll room blew up the minute I brought it up.

They're like, oh, pig, pig piss, pig piss.

And I didn't know.

And then I'm reading this article and it says it right there.

It said,

this is actually, it said something a little different, didn't it?

Didn't say this is not true.

It said,

what is it?

Pig urine.

This is too funny.

Here it is.

You may have seen rumors.

Rumors.

That's you, trolls, that it contains pig urine.

But that is factually incorrect.

No, it's true.

It's factually incorrect because it's not pig piss

per se.

Exactly.

Yeah, it's treated.

It's treated.

It's treated to make urea.

Pasteurized pig piss.

There we go.

Piss, pasteurize.

And homogenized for your view.

Now,

can we not create this urea with this?

Or that's not the, it's two different things.

The urea is not the same as the PPP.

PPP?

Yeah, the pasteurized.

Destructive clothing.

Pasteurized pig piss.

PPP.

Oh, the P3.

The paste pig piss.

P3.

I think that could become a drink with the water buffalo milk.

Oh, my God.

PPP

with alcohol.

It's the new white claw.

Exit strategy.

Hello.

Yeah, I'm loaded over.

yeah yeah

if you make a cool can

and you put on that can pig piss it will sell like crazy

it will sell like crazy

especially in the frat houses of stanford uh our fraud waste and abuse inspector checked in with me

as you know she's uh she's out there uh identifying fraud waste and abuse in uh in everywhere she can within the the medical sector, and sent me a screenshot of the Texas Human and Health Services internal email.

Listen to this.

Second round of grant funding available through the Texas Vaccine Outreach and Education Program.

This is an exit strategy for us if we weren't the way we are.

The Texas Department of State and Health Services is in partnership with Texas AM Health announced the opening of the second round of funding for the Texas Vaccine Outreach and Education Grant Program.

In this round, organizations can apply apply for grants to engage in vaccine education and outreach with the goal of increasing the number of fully vaccinated Texans against COVID-19.

Now, this is

an interesting thing to get one of these grants.

Do you know what these grants range from?

I'm holding on to my seat.

From $50,000 to $1 million.

So it'd be a promotional operation.

Yep.

You can get a million dollars to tell people to get vaccined.

Side of this coin that is starting to make the virus look a little bit more endemic.

Now this might make some people think, well, sounds like I'm going to get it, and it could boost my immunity without a lot of risk, so why not just get it over with?

But Camille and others say, don't even think about it.

Get vaccinated and boost it.

Even if Omicron's milder, it still can be really nasty, even deadly.

And don't forget about long COVID.

Omicron's going to inflict enough carnage.

And many scientists caution it's way too early to conclude with any certainty that we'll be on the right road after Omicron.

Okay, exit strategy idea.

We need some kind of box that you can hook up to

your speakers.

And whenever some messaging is coming through like that, it puts that echo on automatically.

That was really beautiful because that's exactly what it's intended for.

You will obey.

Yeah.

That's great.

Good one.

Good sweetening job.

Some of the

activities.

It was addressed by a child a couple months ago that they are put in an environment where there are kids that identify as a furry, a cat or a dog, whatever.

And so yesterday I heard that at least one of our schools in our town has, in one of the unisex bathrooms, a litter box for the kids that identify as cats.

And

I am really disturbed by that.

And I will do some more investigation on that.

I know what's going on nationwide.

I know it is.

It's part of the agenda that's being pushed i don't i don't even want to understand it but i think that people need to be aware of it because i am really upset as a parent that my child is put in an environment like that and um you know i'm all for creativity and imagination but when someone lives in a fantasy world and expects other people to go along with it i have a problem with that dude

That's a great clip.

That's so, I mean, we have furries who are producers of the show.

We got no problem with that.

Sure.

We love you, furries.

We got our trans women.

We got everything.

Did they expect one of the kids to be pooping in that thing?

Well, I'm thinking this may be a potential exit strategy.

We can have

kitty litter, you know, approved.

Give people

furry litter, which will be approved for children.

You know, we'll have it all organically tested, make sure no one's allergic to it.

And, you know, we can actually have a contract to

EU standards of kitty litter.

Yeah.

I'm kind of digging this, but I can see where parents might be concerned.

Might have some issue.

Oh, my goodness.

Life is great.

It's your podcast.

You put it together.

You should be very proud of it.

You'd be very proud that we still can go on our merry way and continue because we are not cancelable through advertising, corporate money, etc.

We're not financially cancelable.

The only way we can go away is either you stop supporting us or we find the real exit strategy we're still looking for that one

I think we should revisit the human furry kitty litter

yeah I think that idea came and went

I think we

go back to what you said at the end of that last clip which is we gotta re we have to revisit exit strategies in general, making another show out of it.

Yes.

Some wonderful.

That was very, by the way, that was very entertaining.

You are correct.

Yes, Sir Cumference, John Jensen, thank you so much.

We really appreciate that you put that together.

And again, we have Sir Deanonymous with the No Agenda Search.

It's bingit.io.

It's clipgenie.com if you want it for your own

podcast.

If you want to go check that out.

And

we will continue to search for the exit strategy.

Will it be a book?

Will it be a microphone company?

Will it be a book that we put a phone in?

I don't know.

We'll try.

Hey, we'll be back on Sunday with a new live episode if you want to listen live.

Fresh new content from the boys at No Agenda.

Until then, coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas, in the morning, everybody.

I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C.

Dvorak.

And remember us at NoAgendadonations.com.

We look forward to thanking you all in the next episode.

Until then, adios mo fos a hooe hooey and such.