1780 - "Chatbox"

You're nuts.

Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Thursday, July 10th, 2025.

This is your award-winning Gibbon Media Assassination Episode 17.

Hey Day!

This is No Agenda.

With nothing to see here and broadcasting live from the heart of Manhattan, New York City, FEMA Region number two.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all wondering why we're drinking burnt mushroom coffee, I'm Johnson John DeBlack.

It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill in the morning.

Wait, is that from Gigawatt?

No.

Oh, I was gonna.

Then why are you drinking it?

I'm not.

Oh, you said we were okay.

You can wonder.

You're confusing me.

You don't want to do that.

Have you seen these ads for the coffee for the burnt mushroom, the mushroom coffee?

No, John.

I don't watch television like you do.

Well, you should.

I'm not going to watch TV like you.

No, I'm not going to.

No, it's not going to happen.

Is this on network television?

Yeah, it's all over the place.

There's a little mushroom.

It's an animated mushroom.

It's not real because he's got a smiley face.

She's walking away.

Wait, wait, wait.

You're telling me that there's not a mushroom that can talk and run around on television?

This is

my understanding.

I'm stunned.

I'm stunned.

And so the mushroom is making a coffee for this woman, and she tries the coffee, and she goes, this is better than coffee.

And then they promote the idea of drinking this mushroom coffee.

I don't know.

I'm going to have to try it, I guess.

I don't know.

What does it taste like?

Is it supposed to taste like coffee?

Is it post them?

I mean, what is it supposed to be?

Now that you mentioned it.

It's supposed to jack you up.

Now, you bring this up.

We were watching the mini-series Four Seasons with Steve Carell

and Tina Fey.

It's like an

eight-episode mini-series thing.

And

it's okay, but without going into it, I think it's based on a movie by Alan Alda, who plays a role.

The guy's 90.

It was weird to see Hawkeye show up as this old decrepit man in his cameo role.

Anyway, so Steve Carell, he hooks up with a 30-year-old when he's almost 60, and then he has to go on vacation

with his girlfriend's friends, and they were drinking mushroom coffee.

So you're on a trend here.

Of course, it's because I watch TV.

I'm glad there's two of us.

Someone has to do it.

Before we get to the obvious elephant in the room, just a little bit on the Texas flood.

This is

much worse than the media is able to show it.

And I'm not blaming the media per se.

This is just 20 minutes down the road from us when we're in Texas.

And actually, I feel kind of bad about not being there, not.

being able to help out more.

But when we're back, I'm going to start doing some more things.

this is like the grand canyon you know where you just can't you can't get the same effect unless you've been there and you know what it looks like john the debris is 25 feet high all over the place and it's not just kerville i mean some of this happened up in georgetown near um near austin it is really this was this is level western north carolina

With the same result that, of course, everyone kind of moves on.

The media is looking for a narrative.

And they had all

the camp girls.

Okay, we had that.

And then we have the runaway, the dog that has no owner.

NPR, by the way,

gets the award.

They had a picture of a single baby shoe.

Very good, NPR.

You did it.

That's kind of cliched.

It's cliched and disgusting.

The one sole baby shoe in the debris.

But the reports I'm getting, it smells like death everywhere.

And they're in desperate need of

men with boots and chainsaws.

And if you have any heavy equipment, and if you want to help out and you're anywhere near, or you just want to come and help, email me, adammccurry.com.

I'll give you a number to call.

And if people want to donate money, it's the Hill Country Community Foundation.

TNFI have checked it out.

It's the right place.

It's communityfoundation.net.

It's really, this is much worse than anyone could have imagined.

It really was a bad one.

So let's listen to Dana Bash talk about it.

That'll brighten our mood.

We're continuing to follow the desperate search in Texas.

Last hour, officials said at least 119 people have died and even more remain missing.

In New Mexico, residents experienced similar panic during record-breaking, that's what they called it, floodwaters.

That was yesterday, a river.

Free surge from less than two feet to more than 20.

In less than an hour, at least three people were killed.

Nearly 100 people were rescued.

A really big flood just came, like a wall of flood.

It came and it started going through.

And that's when I started recording because it just, it got so wild so quickly.

In central North Carolina, another quote, once in a 100-year flood.

In Chicago, a quote, one in a thousand year rain event that's all just this week yeah

these ghouls once in a hundred years no not really no she said a thousand oh that was for Chicago or whatever once in a hundred once in a thousand it all leads to climate change don't worry I think that your thing you did last show I should have recorded it and play it back which should outline the event and uh

the Texas event

how it happened in 18 this 18 that, blah, blah, blah, every five years, on and on and on and on and on for endless amounts of time.

But somehow it's once in a generation.

Yes.

I mean, these news people are no good.

No.

No.

You got to leave it to the podcaster.

The podcasters seem to be doing everything these days.

It's a heavy lift, people.

I got one more of Dana Bash only because she brings in Bill Nye, the science guy.

Joining me now to try to make sense of this.

Let's make sense of it with this douchebag.

Wait.

With this douchebag.

Wow.

I know.

I know.

Let's make sense of this with a douchebag.

Joining me now to try to make sense of this.

And more is Bill Nye, the science guy.

Hey!

Thanks for being here.

It's good to be here.

I'm sorry.

I really am sorry for all the trouble.

It's terrible.

And so, just that last part of what we were just talking about.

Sorry for all the trouble?

Yeah.

Who is that supposed to be?

I don't know.

And I guess

he's, you know, can we blame him?

I mean, we're looking for somebody to blame.

We know that everyone wants to blame Trump, so we might as well blame Bill Nye.

Really am sorry for all the trouble.

It's terrible.

And so, just that last part of what we were describing, you keep hearing once in a lifetime, once in 100 years, once in a thousand years.

At this point,

it's not anymore.

It's just where we are.

Oh, here we go.

With the climate and the environment.

Well,

as we like to say, our side of it, the science side of it, this is exactly what was predicted.

It's very difficult to tie any one weather event to climate change.

However, however, the warm weather

can't really tie weather to climate change.

However,

we're going to do that anyway.

Yeah, we're going to do

any one weather event to climate change.

However, the warm weather events are actually easier to tie to climate change.

And so the other problem that happened in the hill country in Texas is this business of the Balcone escarpment where the air mask got lifted.

So it spread out and the rain came down even faster.

But it'll happen again.

Yeah, well, okay.

Yeah, Bill.

If you just go to Wikipedia, you can see that it's pretty obvious it'll happen again.

Not due to climate change, just due to drought.

and the soil and clay that we have and the rivers that can't handle it.

It's yes, of course.

Of course.

I don't think anybody did anything wrong other than we've just come to rely on our government.

And where was my warning?

And even though there were warnings, where's the guy that just goes outside and says, hmm, I reckon I've seen this before.

Yeah.

Get to hire grown.

That's exactly what happens in those areas.

Get to hire grown.

Let's just stick with CNN for a lot.

I just want to get these out of the way.

A very important story we're covering and will continue to is these deadly floods in Texas.

As

the search continues for the missing, there are big questions being raised about the warnings that happened and the impacts also of cuts to

that the Trump administration made to the National Weather Service.

And while everyone you speak to says a

review needs to be done, analysis needs to be done, there's no direct through line, I did have a former administrator of NOAA just on this morning who said that he thinks the administration's workforce cuts at the National Weather Service contributed to the problem.

Let me play this for you.

I am convinced that the staff cuts that we saw were a contributing factor to the inability of the emergency managers to respond.

The staffing was just fine, and the White House has concurred with this to get the forecast out, to get the watches and warnings issued.

But when you send a message, there's no guarantee it's being received.

So someone needs to follow up, and that's the warning coordination meteorologist, a position that was vacant.

This is just so dishonest.

In fact, the NOA, N-O-O-A, N-O-O-O-O,

the N-O-A-A,

they sent the warnings out, but their models were incorrect.

They estimated much lower levels, much lower.

But okay.

Let's blame it on Trump.

And who better to blame it on Trump than?

Who's the climate expert, John?

Come on.

I'll give you one guess.

A climate expert?

Yes.

Bel Gore.

No.

No, of course not.

You want to bring in

Eric Swalwell.

Do you think Democrats need to be careful on this?

Yeah, I'm going to guess that.

Well, first, I mean, as a parent, this is just heartbreaking.

I have two kids at camp this week.

They're not old enough for sleep away camp, but you put them, you know, in the responsibility of people who you don't know, and this is a parent's nightmare.

And so I do grieve with those families.

And I also thank the first responders who put their lives on the line to try and rescue as many people as possible.

One of my colleagues, a Republican colleague, had two of his daughters at this camp.

Fortunately, they made it out.

I do think as lawmakers, we have a responsibility, though, to look at did cuts affect the ability for folks on the ground and at the camp to have an earlier, better warning.

But this is really going to should we just attack government for government's sake?

And for the last six months, we've seen an effort to to undermine the hard work of government workers, whether it's air traffic controllers who keep planes from colliding in the air or FEMA first responders who go into the harshest hit places in America.

But if the president's press secretary doesn't like the way this is being described, I would recommend that the president go to Texas and talk to the families and show leadership, because that's what presidents do.

There is nothing more ghoulish than politicizing something like this.

And it happens every single time.

I'm glad it was Swalwell because I already didn't like him, so that's good.

There is one story that I think is very troubling when it comes to government, local government in particular, and that's the fire chief in Austin.

People are pretty outraged about this story.

The Austin fire chief is under fire, not for what he did, but for what the firefighters union says he didn't do.

We have the resources, we have the training, we have the personnel.

The union president says Chief Baker held back trained crews during last week's deadly floods, even though they were ready to respond.

I started sending pictures with their names by them.

I said, Chief, open these up and zoom in on these little faces.

Eight to ten years old.

We need to do something.

No response.

No deployment.

He said, Austin firefighters were requested on July 2nd and 3rd before the flooding even started.

Austin said no both times.

What was said up and down the chain is: do not deploy, don't even ask.

Within our department, he's known as a bully.

He's known as being vindictive.

He's known as being retaliatory.

Woke.

So when you have an order coming down the chain that says, we don't deploy, don't even ask, people know what that means.

And people didn't deploy when they normally would have because of that direct order.

Chief Baker defends his decision, saying he had to balance helping other communities while protecting Austin.

Chief Baker is so concerned about, you know, squeezing pennies here and saving money rather than saving people.

With nearly 40 years of firefighting experience under his belt, Nick says he doesn't make these claims lightly.

I used to be a part of the original Swiftwater team.

I know the conditions.

I absolutely believe that lives were lost because Austin firefighters did not deploy.

I know some of those girls could have been survived if we had had the best boat crew the day before on scene.

I know it.

I know it in my heart.

And the fact that we didn't do it and we let them down is unconscionable.

Yeah, they could have been out there a day early.

Well, this fire, this guy, this Austin fire chief, was signed pretty much to Austin by Barack Obama and told that they had to diversify the Austin fire department.

And he's on record.

There's tapes of him, this guy, it seems like a dummy, saying, oh, the most important thing for Austin right now is to diversify our firefighters.

He's kind of a Lloyd Austin type dude.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All that's missing is without the mask.

The face shield, yeah.

And then,

you know, there's

the amount of people who can't see the difference between geoengineering and chemtrails, which you know, I believe that is happening.

And cloud seeding, which has been going on since, I don't know, John, what do you think?

80 years they've been cloud seeding in America?

Ever since I was born.

Yeah.

And this poor sap, the CEO of Rainmaker, who contracts with Texas to make it rain over farms during the season when we need rain,

not after the harvest.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter.

He also has kind of an unfortunate look.

He's got this massive mullet going on.

He's a mullet guy.

He's a massive mullet guy.

So he just kind of looks untrustworthy, but he's kind of a young dude, and he's figuring out.

I saw him interviewed by Alex Jones.

Well,

I've got an interview here with him just a minute.

This was on Forbes, actually.

So

I like the guy.

I think he's and he's under pressure.

And he does have some stats that are interesting to hear.

My heart and prayers are with everybody affected in Texas and the entire state.

I'm going to be down there tomorrow trying to help as I can.

I run a company called Rainmaker that conducts cloud seeding to make it rain more for farms, for ecosystem restoration, for residential reservoirs when they're suffering from drought.

And we work with

municipalities and farmers throughout Texas to, when there is a drought or there isn't enough water, make it rain more.

We unequivocally had nothing to do with the flooding that was caused by the remnants of the tropical storm that blew in.

And our biggest cloud seeding missions to date have only produced 10 million gallons of precipitation approximately.

And that tropical storm dumped about 4 trillion over the course of two days.

So the order of magnitude difference between what cloud seeding is even capable of and what happened is incomparable.

And again, I

truly

am heartbroken about what has happened, but want to make it abundantly clear that cloud seeding was not involved in any capacity, and it's a technology that is used to help farmers when there isn't enough water.

4 trillion gallons.

That's an amazing thing.

Yeah, he would.

There was Bannon, not Alex Jones that I heard him talk to.

Bannon was trying to push it toward.

Yeah, push it towards.

And this guy wasn't having any of it.

And that figure, he threw that same figure out.

He says you can produce maybe 10 million.

And they're not talking about a billion gallons.

They're talking about 4 trillion gallons.

You'd have to have some pretty.

You can't do it with cloud seating.

It's no way.

And so I took that.

He seemed like a very,

although he was the mullet man, he did seem very knowledgeable about this.

But the mullet is just, it's just not a good look in this particular case.

It's like, yeah, you look like Theo Vaughan.

You look like a podcaster.

You know, I'm sure, I'm sure people who are out there who believe that, trust me, John,

the entire community of Fredericksburg is going nuts.

This cloud, what?

Cloud seeding was cloud seating.

It's like, no, calm down.

Of course, these are the same people who are going out there and seeing it.

Literally, it just smells of death everywhere.

I'm sure it's very similar to Western North Carolina.

Very similar.

People dead in trees, all kinds of nasty stuff.

Yes.

Okay, so then the story that seems to be preoccupying everybody in the podcast land for sure, but even in mainstream media.

I'm sure people are tuning in to hear what we have to say about it.

I'll give you an overview first of the news story about the meltdown.

Something is horribly wrong here.

The rift within within President Donald Trump's base is growing.

Don't sit there and tell me there's nothing when you told me there was something.

After an abrupt end to the death and sex trafficking investigations into Jeffrey Epstein.

You couldn't discredit yourself worse.

It's really, really demoralized people.

For years, conspiracy theories have dogged Epstein's prison suicide.

I'm amazed at how few people are putting two and two together.

As rumors swirled about a possible client list full of high-profile individuals, rumors fueled directly by Trump's inner circle.

The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients?

Will that really happen?

It's sitting on my desk right now to review.

They're convinced that the Epstein client list is going to have a lot of Democratic politicians on it.

Problem is, if it has politicians on it, it's almost certain to have Donald Trump on it.

It's no secret Epstein had plenty of important friends, including Trump.

This week, in an unsigned memo, the Department of Justice said there was no incriminating client list and went on to definitively say Epstein died by suicide, releasing video from outside the prison wing the night he died.

Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

This guy's been talked about for years.

If Trump wanted to stop the questions, he seemed to make things worse by lashing out.

And are people still talking about this guy, this creep?

That is unbelievable.

Leaving many MAGA supporters to believe it's far from case closed, with the conspiracy theory they've been fed for years getting a whole lot bigger.

This was really disappointing.

I mean, of everything that has been happening, the cabinet meeting, I was like, wow,

Pam Bondi's an idiot.

Like, really?

I mean, we already knew she was kind of dumb, but...

I mean, she can't even lie right.

And President Trump just going all in on the cover-up.

I mean, if you wanted to cover something up, you could not do a stupider job.

And just for background,

how long have we been talking about the elites doing this kind of stuff on this show?

Oh, since the beginning, pretty much.

Exactly.

July 10th, 2008, I looked it up, is when

I...

basically got fired from Aero Classic Rock Radio in the Netherlands for bringing up

the Demink affair, which is the highest official in the Dutch Justice Department who had admitted that he had sex with underage boys and nothing was happening.

And then they came right after the state, not after me personally, they came after the station.

The investors pulled all their money out.

Station was off the air within 10 days.

Or as you say, burned to the ground, which isn't entirely true.

But these are the days of Jimmy Saville.

Man, we've gone so deep into the Dutrux Rolodex case, which was that was a good one.

But it's all, I mean, this happened.

They had kids in cages, and this was the elite from Brussels and

the EU.

It's unbelievable what has been going on.

The Jimmy Saville case, I mean, come on.

That was

something that we didn't discuss too much on the show, that was kind of mentioned in passing, which was the George H.W.

Bush.

Oh, the gay hookers that my uncle of the CIA was giving

midnight tours to.

And there's also Boys Town.

Oh, Boys Town.

Wow.

That was actually a staple.

We used to play bits from that all the time.

Boys.

I forgot all of that.

Yeah, we did.

Well, there's a couple of bits.

We didn't do it all the time.

But that was back when, before you did it.

No, this has been going on, is what you're trying to say.

Yeah, and we've been following it.

We've been following this for a long time.

But, you know,

I'd like to know what

Giselle Maxwell must be thinking right now.

She's locked up.

Has anyone talked to her or done an interview, a jailhouse interview or anything?

Oh, why bother?

Why bother?

You know, they talked.

They did.

I don't know if I got a clip of it.

I didn't get the clip.

But there there was a clip of

Epstein's brother that

Cuomo

talked to, and he says this thing stinks.

And then the only clip I have about it is Kiriaku, the ex-CIA guy,

who is a whistleblower, and he was still floating around.

I think he's got good knowledge of the inner workings of the way these things operate.

I have that clip, which is kind of like.

Let's play that, and I want to play a few historical clips.

Let's play Kiriaku.

I'm not blaming the FBI director, Cash Patel, or the Deputy Director Dan Bongino.

I think that that layer beneath them, that's part of what we like to call the deep state, has taken this bull by the horns and they've probably destroyed information.

Look at what the CIA did in 1975 after Congress ordered that it release all of its files related to an operation called MKUltra.

The director of the CIA went back to headquarters and ordered everything to be destroyed.

And in the end, only about 20% of the documents survived.

We're still learning about the FBI's operations against Martin Luther King

55 years after the fact.

So now we're supposed to believe that everybody's telling the truth, that there were no files, there were no dossiers.

I'm sorry, I just don't buy it because I know how these people operate.

Yeah, I just want to go back a little bit further because we've had so many people talking about this in the past five years.

In fact, this is

who

Who was that woman?

Let me see where.

Well, first of all, let me do this.

This is 2019

on

Pierce.

No, this is CBS This Morning, Maria Farmer.

Do you remember Maria Farmer?

Yes, and I want to mention something to people listening to this.

We have both, I think, me in particular, have said that

these files will never come out no matter what Pam Bon.

We've said that continuously, yeah.

Yeah, continuously.

And we're still right.

so far, batting a thousand, unfortunately.

Welcome back to CBS this morning.

One of Jeffrey Epstein's accusers, who said she has an inside view of his world, is giving us disturbing new details of what happened.

Maria Farmer was a young artist in the 1990s when she met Epstein.

She and her younger sister, Annie, claim Epstein sexually assaulted them, and Farmer is now suing Epstein Estate over the alleged incident.

Farmer says she was the first known accuser to alert law enforcement to Epstein a decade before his first arrest.

In her first TV interview, Farmer talks about why she's still seeking justice even after Epstein's death.

Okay, here she comes.

Farmer found Epstein's behavior mysterious.

One day I said to Jeffrey, what goes on in this house?

Like, why are you always upstairs?

And he said, I'll show you.

And so he took me up there in the elevator, and we went.

He showed me all of Gilan's quarters.

She had her own suite on the house oh she had a whole floor ultimately farmer says epstein led her to his bathroom by the way this is cbs the cia broadcast network and there's a marble like altar thing over here and he said that's where he gets his massages

epstein told her the whole house was wired with pinhole cameras and took her into the media room where they were monitored i looked on the cameras and i saw toilet toilet bed bed toilet bed i'm like i am never going to use the restroom here and I'm never going to sleep here.

Was there videotaped?

Oh, yeah, it was all video all the time.

Yeah.

And I asked him one time, what do you do with this?

And he said, I keep it.

I keep everything in my safe.

You know, looking back on this, this is kind of an interesting timing.

2019, this was really coming to a head just before COVID, just coincidentally before COVID.

And this was Amy Roebuck.

Remember Amy Roebuck?

Oh, yeah.

Here's her complaint.

I've had the story for three years.

I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts.

We would not put it on the air.

First of all, I was told, who's Jeffrey Epstein?

No one knows who that is.

This is a stupid story.

Then the palace found out that we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us a million different ways.

We were so afraid we wouldn't be able to interview Kate

Will

that we that also quashed the story.

And then

Alan Dershowitz was also implicated in it because of the planes.

She told me everything.

She had pictures.

She had everything.

She was in hiding for 12 years.

We convinced her to come out.

We convinced her to talk to us.

It was unbelievable what we had.

Clinton, we had everything.

I tried for three years to get it on to no avail.

And now it's all coming out.

And it's like these new revelations.

And I freaking had all of it.

I'm so pissed right now.

Like every day I get more and more pissed because I'm just like, oh my God,

what we had was unreal.

Other women backing it up.

Hey, yep.

Brad Edwards, the attorney, three years ago saying,

like,

there will come a day when we will realize Jeffrey Epstein was the most prolific pedophile this country has ever known.

I had it all three years ago.

And here's current.

Oh, wait, before you go on, don't forget what happened to Amy Robox.

She was set up.

Oh, she had the Phony Bologna Fair and fired, and that was the end of her.

Where's she now?

I don't know.

Well, hopefully she'll.

I looked her up while you're.

And?

continuing.

Where is she now?

Oh, you oh, you're yeah, you'll look.

Okay, this is the current

um

current United States Attorney for the District of New Jersey, Alina Haba, on Pierce Morgan.

But in this case, in Epstein's case, it is incredibly disturbing.

We have uh flight logs, we have information names that will come out.

Is it going to be shocking?

I don't see how it's not shocking that there there were so many individuals that were hidden

and kept secret and not been held accountable.

Uh-huh.

And then, of course, we have the Dersh, Dershowitz, who was implicated in all this, but he only had a massage with his clothes on.

I have seen.

Remember, I was accused falsely.

And ultimately, I was completely cleared.

The woman admitted that she may have mistook me for somebody else and withdrew all of her lawsuits.

And so, from day one, from the day I was was accused, I said I want every document out because I knew every document would prove I was innocent.

So, let me tell you, I know for a fact documents are being suppressed, and they're being suppressed to protect individuals.

I know the names of the individuals, I know why they're being suppressed, I know who's suppressing them.

But I'm bound by confidentiality

from a judge and cases, and I can't disclose what I know.

But I hand to God, I know, I know the names of people whose files are being suppressed in order to protect them.

And that's wrong.

And can we not forget, please, Melinda Gates

with Gail King.

You know, it was also widely reported that Bill had a friendship or business or some kind of contact with Jeffrey Epstein and that you were not, that that was very upsetting to you.

Did that play a role in the divorce at all, in this process?

Yeah, as I said, it's not one thing.

It was many things.

But I did not like that he'd had meetings with jeffrey epstein no

then you made that clear to him i made that clear to him i also met jeffrey epstein exactly one time did you yes because i wanted to see who this man was and um

i regretted it from the second i stepped in the door he was abhorrent he was evil personified.

I had nightmares about it afterwards.

So, you know, my heart breaks for these young women because that's how I felt.

And here I'm an older woman.

my god i feel terrible for those young women it's awful you felt that the moment you walked in i didn't hear so

yeah and you shared that with bill and he still continued to spend time with him any of the questions remaining about what bill's relationship there was those are for bill to answer okay but i made it very clear how i felt about him

and although i don't have any clips you remember that A gardener or someone like that was arrested at Bill Gates' house in possession of 4,000 pornographic images and

members and children.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There was a lot of news reports about it, but no, uh, no audio that I can find in our archives.

So

go ahead.

Just to finish the Amy Robart thing.

Uh, so she was when she was fired in 2023 for an affair from ABC.

She has gone on.

Ah, podcast?

Exactly.

How come I don't have that?

She's now a podcast.

How come I don't have her podcast in my podcast app?

This is disappointing.

I should be on that.

So, of course, two months ago, almost to the day, no, to the week, we had this very curious double interview with bug-eyed Bongino and bug-eyed Catherine.

That's my favorite.

The bug-eyed guy.

The two stooges, the guys at the hostage video.

Yes.

You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.

People don't believe it.

Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing,

you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was.

Was he there?

He killed himself.

Again, you want me to get?

I've seen the whole file.

He killed himself.

So.

Okay, so

I think we need to just play the cabinet meeting because everything changed for everybody with the president's response with Bondi's lying in the cabinet meeting.

Before you do that, I want to mention a couple of things.

Yeah, sure.

Bondi, for example, and I don't have, again, you know, this was just, all this stuff has been played over and over.

Yeah, but

I want to put it on the record.

I'm going to go on the one show and say, I got the documents on my desk.

We have to remember she showed up on Water's show the next day.

Oh, yeah.

Well,

remember he was like, oh, I texted you.

Yeah, we text all the time.

Remember that?

Yeah.

And then she said, yeah, just tomorrow.

She made the commitment.

And then the next day came along, and there was other clips of her.

There was about five of them where she's going on and on about this.

And then the next day, she delivered the binders to the

podcast stooges.

Which was the same old stuff that was already floating around.

I don't know if she didn't know that this was already floating around or did just she thought this was new.

But she hands out the binders with the flight logs, which everybody has seen already ten times over,

and which is useless.

And

then

from there on, and that it says it's very clearly on the binder, it says Jeffrey Epstein investigation phase one was on there.

Phase one.

There was never a worse phase two.

And then we have to remember J.D.

Vance going out on the podcast and campaigning on this.

Everybody in politics has a vice that's much worse than alcoholism, is the way that I put it.

But we

release the list.

Seriously, we need to release the F-Scene list.

That is an important thing.

Yeah.

I'm just saying.

That should be an important thing.

Exactly.

I have to play this Bondi, this Trump thing and then Bondi because what President Trump did here is like,

is he...

Well, we'll have to get into our

opinions.

Yes, what we're going to talk about is the fact that Trump campaigned on this.

Yeah, do we have this?

That's only what, less than six months or about six months, I guess six months ago.

Yeah, here it is.

This is from

that that the Russian guy.

What's his name?

What's his name?

You know, the

Russian Rogan.

The Russian Rogan.

The guy in the black suit with the black tie who always talks like this very quietly.

What's his name?

I don't know.

Yeah, he's a big podcaster.

You should know about him.

Well, anyway, it'll come to me.

Here he is.

This is what President Trump said, or then candidate Trump said.

But a lot of big people.

Friedman.

Lex Friedman.

That's what it is.

Thank you, trolls.

Lex Friedman.

But a lot of big people went to that island.

Ukrainian.

Okay.

But fortunately, I was not one of them.

It's just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public.

Yeah.

It's very interesting, isn't it?

Probably will be, by the way.

Probably.

So if you're able to, you'll be...

Yeah, I'd certainly take a look at it.

Now, Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago.

Whoops.

Left turn.

They do that for danger, too, because, you know, it endangers certain people, et cetera, et cetera.

So Kennedy

is very different from the Epstein thing.

But yeah, I'd be inclined to do the Epstein.

I'd have no problem with it.

So he's saying a couple of things here about different cases, but they could be said for both.

It's like, well, you know, you could put people in danger.

You know, when it comes to the Epstein memo, they were very clear that, well, we're not going to be putting this stuff out that could implicate people who are guilty of nothing, but just happen to be, I don't know, in the room.

So here is the president.

And I just have to wonder:

is he tone deaf?

Does he only look at Truth Social?

Does he look anywhere else?

Does he listen to anything?

Does he really think that this is not a big deal?

I mean, this is level

COVID shots and beyond, even though on the grand scheme, it's not the same level.

I think the COVID shots are worse because a lot of people have been dying.

But this is just the worst way.

If you want to cover something up, uh-uh.

I don't know where he came up with this idea.

Your memo and release yesterday with Jeffrey F.

Speak that left some lingering mysteries.

One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for a American or foreign intelligence agency.

The former it was a little hard to hear, but the question is good.

Is you know, the attorney general in Florida, Acosta, said, No, no, he belongs to intelligence.

And that was when Jeffrey Epstein got his sweetheart deal of going to jail during the day.

Go home during the weekend, you're all good.

Go back to your Palm Beach abode.

It's all fantastic.

And it was a valid question and a deep one.

Miami U.S.

Attorney,

Alex Asta, allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency.

So can you resolve whether or not he did?

And also, can you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse state on the day of the seven?

Yeah, sure.

Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

This guy's been talked about for years.

You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things.

And are people still talking about this guy, this creep?

That is unbelievable.

Do you want to waste the time?

Do you feel like answering?

I don't mind answering.

I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy.

Now, I believe he means this, that he's saying, well, you know, in the grand scheme of things,

that there's a lot, you know, there's a lot of things that I'm doing right, and there are.

And there is tragedy in Texas.

But this is not the way to just wipe this away.

With what happened in Texas, it just seems like a desecration, but you go ahead.

Sure, sure.

First, to back up on that, in February, I did an interview on Fox, and it's been getting a lot of attention because I said I was asked a question about the client list, and my response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file, along with the JFK, MLK files.

What is your take on this?

She's not very good at this.

No,

it was so abundantly clear to me.

There's different ways of handling this, and the consultant should be brought in at this point and

give a lecture.

She could have said, and everyone's deconstructed this to an extreme.

Yeah.

I mean, everybody,

including, I mean, even Alex Jones in the car, which is my, here's now he's in a car.

Okay, I have the Alex Jones explanation.

And Alex Jones has his theories.

Yeah.

But she could have said,

you know,

she could have said,

I probably could have handled this differently.

It sounded like one thing.

And looking back on it, it was probably not, I didn't put it right.

I mean, there's a million, she could have said anything.

except what she said.

Exactly.

It was, it's so wrong.

So wrong.

And Trump pretty much could have said anything but what he said, which brings me you know, bring us to the third meta-layer, which is the

analysts out there who say that, well, this is signaling.

This, by the way, is beyond reality.

This is all no, they're signaling.

And that's what Bongino and Patel were doing when

they were frozen in time and they were looking like two hostages in a hostage video.

This all signaling that, yeah, something's up and we're gonna, you're gonna find out later.

Bull crap.

Yeah,

I'm with you.

There's no signaling.

There's a lot of Q stuff going around.

Oh, the president came out and had the number 17.

That's Q.

And so, oh, it's all good.

Trust the plan.

That's what I meant by that.

Also, to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.

And by the way, Trump gave her an out.

She could have said, no, I'm not going to honor that question with it.

She could have done anything.

But then the big lie is the stupid video.

And by the way, that's a good point because he gave her an out.

He did give her an out.

You want to discuss it?

She says, no, we can talk about it later.

Yeah.

That would have been the way to go.

No, no, no.

She's dumb.

Childborn is what they were.

Never going to be released.

Never going to see the light of day.

To him being an agent.

I have no knowledge about that.

We can get back to you on that.

And the minute missing from the video, we released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive.

Hold on a second, stop.

I didn't realize until I just heard this for the 10th time.

Nobody asked her about the video.

Nope.

Nope.

Why is she just volunteering information now?

Well, what's interesting is so they have two videos.

I went and looked at them.

They have two videos.

One is...

Oh, you got the one where they were Hillary's there?

That was a good one.

So they have,

and it's just a video, and you see a dude go in, you see a woman go in.

I don't even know what I'm looking at.

But you're looking at nothing.

Nothing.

But in the enhanced video, the one minute is missing.

If you look at the original video, the minute is there.

So she's lying about something that isn't even an issue.

It was some cock-up with the enhancement video.

The minute is there in the original video.

If you go look at that one, that minute is there.

So she's lying about a lie.

It's bizarre.

And from the video, we released the video showing definitively.

The video was not conclusive, but the

evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide.

And what was on that, there was a minute that was off the counter.

And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year, every night, they redo that video.

It's old from like 1999.

So every night, the video is reset, and every night should have the same minute missing.

So we're looking for that video to release that as well, showing that a minute is missing every night.

And that's it on Epstein.

That's so, that's like, now you're getting wrapped up in the lie because that's just not true.

The minute is there.

There is no minute.

Every night, oh, because we have to change the VHS tapes, cut tapes.

Is that what it is?

It takes a minute to load the new tape.

No, no, Pam Bondi.

No.

No, that is dumb.

All right.

I got a minute of allegation.

But again, why is she even discussing this?

She turns a bad liar.

She's a bad liar.

She's a joker.

Yeah, joker.

There you are.

She's a joker.

Exactly.

Exactly.

All right.

Here's a version of the Alex Jones theory.

Trump is now using

the Epstein files that they have and we know they have.

The videos, all of it.

The client list, all of it.

Houses full.

It would fill houses.

FBI report.

And then they come out and tell us it's all there.

of the deal, load the gun, put it at the deep state head, and then make a deal for the deep state to roll over

and to hand the keys over to Trump.

And is Trump going to dismantle it now?

We're seeing a lot of signs of that.

96% reduction, the smuggling over the border, rolling up the networks doing it.

I'm not defending any of this, by the way.

I'm telling you what's going on.

But to make that deal, they had to say, okay, we'll go out and say there's nothing there so that

we can't then use it against you later.

Because the bad guys say, well, how do we know if we do this, you won't alter the deal later?

We want you to join the conspiracy.

We want you to become accomplices out of the fact.

We want you to get in the swamp with us

and swim around

and by extension join the cult.

Okay.

So, a couple of things we got to separate here.

First of all, intelligence.

We've heard of five eyes,

and I'm going to say there's six eyes because of course Israeli intelligence and US intelligence and MI6, they all work together.

The idea that this is all Mossad is on its face a little bit ridiculous.

The CIA has been doing this forever.

This is what they do.

This is how they compromise people.

And it's not,

we also have to separate pedophilia from sex with minors.

There is a difference because when you say, oh, these are pedophiles, you know, there's a difference between a six-year-old and a 16-year-old or 15-year-old.

And of course, a lot of these women were trafficked.

So they absolutely, they're sex slaves.

This has been going on throughout history.

But the U.S.

intelligence agency, the central intelligence agency, this is what they do best.

And we had Barney Frank running male hookers out of his house.

Remember that?

Well, you don't leave the FBI out of this.

Oh, no, I'm

leaving everybody in here.

So there's a difference between the Jimmy Saville pedophile networks, absolutely true.

and the Rolodex affair dutru trafficking young women, girls,

even if it's a 30-year-old, if you're trafficked and you're being used as a sex slave, it's a crime.

It doesn't matter how old they are, but these parties, these, hey, you know, this is, we make a joke out of what's that in your mouth, but this has been happening forever.

It's not that much of a joke.

No, it isn't.

It isn't.

So this has been happening forever.

And

of course,

Jeffrey Epstein had this material.

That's what all the peephole cameras were for.

And of course, he was part of intelligence.

The question is,

is President Trump really, is he now in bed with the deep state?

Does he, I mean, I'm pretty sure they tried to kill him, likely over this.

Maybe the whole Mar-a-Lago raid was over some of this.

I don't know.

Is he on these tapes?

I'm sure he's somewhere in a plane or

in a house.

I don't know if they have compromising material on him.

Somehow I doubt it.

You know, the obvious theory is that that would have been separated out and come out.

He has to have some kind of dead man switch at this point,

which

to me would be Melania.

I can't think of anyone better to have the dead man switch.

She looks like she'd be the one.

And

I don't know.

Is it coincidence that this all takes place?

And maybe he does have the goods on people.

I don't know.

He seems to be shutting down Netanyahu.

And this.

The Constitution says treason is punishable by death.

You've accused your adversaries of treason.

Who specifically are you accusing of treason?

Well, I think a number of people.

And I think what you look is that they have unsuccessfully tried to take down the wrong person.

If you look at Comey, if you look at McCabe, if you look at probably

people higher than that, if you look at Strzok, if you look at his lover, Lisa Page, his wonderful lover, the two lovers, they talked openly.

You know, they didn't use their private server because they didn't want to get caught.

So they used the government server.

That was not a good move.

He talked about the insurance policy just in case Crooked Hillary loses.

And that didn't work out too well for them.

So you look at them, they want an insurance policy so that should she, for any reason, lose, remember, 100 million to one.

Maybe he said 100 million to nothing.

But should she lose, we'll have an insurance policy and we'll get this guy out of office.

And that's what they said, and that's what they meant.

That's treason.

That's treason.

So to me, this feels like Trump has something, and now he's using it for his own ego.

That's who he is, to bring down these.

No one's going to stop him.

These guys will go down.

Now you're talking about

Comey Brandon, which

you didn't do the background.

You just jumped into it.

Yeah, well, because that's how I am.

Yes, Brennan and Comey are now supposedly under investigation by the Department of Justice, which is again the choke artist, Pam Bondi.

Yeah.

So there's that to consider.

Yeah, I found that to be the kind of the top news story because the way it came out, it was...

But the coincidence cannot be ignored.

No,

there is no coincidence.

No.

I have two more of these clips if you want to hear them.

Yes, please.

Okay, here's the second one.

I want to be clear.

Nobody's been charged.

That would take actual charging decisions to be made by the Justice Department after and if a grand jury gives the green light to go ahead with indictments.

But we can say that both Comey and Brennan are under investigation.

As you mentioned, both were targets of then President Trump during his first term and now President Trump during his second term.

He believes that both men ruined his first term as president by suggesting that he was in cahoots with Russia.

This was all part of the Trump-Russia collusion probe, the Russia investigation, whatever you want to call it.

As far as the Brennan investigation is concerned, Fox Digital was first to report that

the current CIA director, the successor to John Brennan, eventual successor, John Ratcliffe, found some information, some quote-unquote evidence that shows that Brennan may, and I want to be careful, may have lied to Congress, which is a crime if you do lie to Congress.

So that's what is being investigated there.

As far as the Comey investigation is concerned, that's a little bit more murky.

We don't know specifically what that investigation entails.

We do know, though, that Mr.

Comey is also under some sort of criminal investigation.

So when I look at this, there's two linchpins of the intelligence community in the United States, CIA and FBI, and he's going after them.

And so he has to have something for this just to pop up at this very moment.

And it's kind of weak because what we really need,

we need a Bill Gates.

You know, we need somebody.

If he doesn't do something like that,

there's a revolt underway that is.

It's out of control.

Well, I don't see that.

I do.

I do.

Oh, yeah.

Well, Well, yeah, from where you are, in revolts,

kind of a revolting area.

Yes, this is what I'm saying.

People are incense.

They can't believe it.

The Q believers, everyone's like, oh, I mean, the Q believers.

But these are

the two intelligent people.

Has anyone looked into the coincidence that Comey's daughter, who was the prosecutor in both the Diddy case and the

Epstein?

Well,

they had to get on.

I don't know why that doesn't get more attention.

How about

Anthony Wiener's laptop?

I mean, there is so much.

And again, how about Seth's laptop?

Seth Rich, yeah.

Seth Rich.

There is so much.

And if we were during the Seth Rich fiasco,

there was all these threats against anyone who even talked about it.

Yeah.

So

the way I see it is if there really is a treasure trove, and there's a trove of something, but if there's a treasure trove, and you know, it's beyond the Epstein's house, it's the island.

The island, of course, is

dynamite, I'm sure, what they have there.

Zorro Ranch, rarely talked about, rarely talked about.

And we need a Bill Clinton or a Hillary.

He has to give us something.

But if

once this, if it ever comes out, and I'm with you, it seems unlikely,

you would see embarrassment embarrassment and people being taken down from not just politics.

By the way, probably more Republicans doing gay stuff than Democrats doing anything.

You'd see banking.

You'd see entertainment.

Okay.

Tech, business world.

I mean, it would be...

an incredible crap show.

It would just be insane what would happen if it all came out.

So

the only way to do it, it's not going to go away.

That's for sure.

It's not going to go away.

This is, it's not, I'm not going to leave it alone ever.

It's, if you have it, it has to come out at some point.

No.

And I'm sure Trump.

I think that's not right.

And I'm sure that Trump is probably trying to fix America the way he wants to fix it, which, you know, I think he's doing a lot of really good things

that he also campaigned on, border illegals.

I mean, he's going full bore.

And

if he's allowed to do this and there's no real pushback from the so-called deep state,

then he probably does have something with a dead man.

The troll room is saying Baron May of the dead man switch.

I think that's a good one, too.

Yeah, I think this is getting too carried away.

I think Kiriaku and the fact that there's a second layer of the deep state and they just took care of it.

They just shredded everything.

You can shred away erase stuff.

It takes about this long to do that.

But if the president had it,

if what you say is true, they would have already strategized the straw man

and

put a couple of scapegoats out there.

Oh, yeah, this guy and that guy and this guy were on the tapes and here's the list.

And the list is phonied up.

It's been doctored.

The whole thing should have been done by now.

And they haven't done it by now.

They haven't created the phony baloney stories that they could do to assuage everybody.

It's like a lost cause.

I think you're wrong.

I'm not going to argue because we've said this for a long time.

It's never going to come out.

It's just this press conference, that the president did himself no favors with that.

No, that was a screw-up.

Total screw-up.

It was, I don't know what they were, how they got flat-footed.

I mean, he's usually on top of these things, and he would have had the right answer, you know, to push it off and then done his weave and change the topic like he did with that interview that you played earlier.

He could have done that.

But no,

for some reason, it triggered him.

And

we'll probably never know why.

And Bondi is probably going to be short-lived in the job.

She's not doing anything.

She's not arresting enough people.

The Comey Brennan thing is going to go nowhere because she can't pull the trigger on anything.

I mean, I had some funny memes that are coming out about her are pretty much thematic.

I will say that this is great for podcasts.

There's no doubt about it.

Podcasters will be talking about this for the next 10 years.

It's going to be an endless source of information.

Yeah, but it's going to be an endless source of just yak.

Yeah, well,

what are podcasts about?

Yak.

I don't know.

I have to go check out Amy Roebach's podcast to see what she's talking about.

It's about yak.

Hello.

But then,

so on top of all this, and there's a very, you know, so we have Netanyahu, the confluence of all this was amazing.

You have Netanyahu showing up for a private lunch and sit-down, which, of course, you know, a lot of people are like, well, you know,

that's, he's coming to tell Trump what to do because, you know, he controls us.

And

which all you have to do is look at the body language between the two of them.

And who's controlling who?

And I will, yes, and I will say that, you know, Netanyahu,

again, from our theory that we control Israel, you know, if Netanyahu.

It's an aircraft carrier.

We run it.

We're the captain.

You have to understand that if Netanyahu, he's under pressure.

You know, the demonstrations before were about, you know, first of all, there's a huge woke movement, very analogous to BLM that was going on before October 7th, the coincidental October 7th.

Look up from the last show, I had this clip I've been holding and holding and holding, which is the Tel Aviv protests.

And this is the clip, it's not on this list.

It's the Tel Aviv Anti-War Protests.

I have it.

I have it.

Here we go.

A rare display of defiance against Israel's war on Iran has been seen on the streets of Tel Aviv.

The demonstrators are demanding an end to the war.

They fear that Iran's attacks may prevent the return of captives being held in Gaza.

Protesters say the conflict is drawing attention away from the fate of the captives.

I don't know why Netanyahu has started the war with Iran.

I don't really care.

I care about one issue, and that's the issue of the hostages.

As far as I'm concerned, this issue is now neglected because the government of Israel and the entire world is now looking at what's going on between Israel and Iran.

And people have forgotten about the hostages.

There's still 53 hostages

in captivity in Gaza for over 600 years.

More than 20 of them are still alive.

It's urgent that we bring them now back home under an agreement, bring the ones that are alive here back home and the ones that are not alive anymore to burial in Israel.

She said 600 years.

Yeah.

The other thing is,

the protests in Tel Aviv and elsewhere in Israel are largely LGBTQ

and trans protests.

Yes.

And the number of trans and gay people in Israel is outrageously high,

which is never discussed.

Well, that was what was happening before somehow October 7th happened with complete lapse in security.

And, you know, we know that the whole setup was BB will take care of it.

We played that a couple shows ago.

BB will take care of it.

If they lose Netanyahu, they lose control of the aircraft carrier.

That's the way I see it.

I think that's exactly correct.

And that's why he's like, hey, we're not going to, and by the way, we're not losing control of the aircraft carrier.

That is not going to happen.

It's not going to happen.

But then, so you have this confluence of all these things happening.

And then all of a sudden, Grok goes crazy.

And I mean, this was amazing what happened because it's also very bad for Elon

because, you know, Elon's, oh, yeah, we're taking care of that.

No more hate speech.

What?

This is the this is what your users are doing all day long.

And so the people are now, of course, they think someone's got the goods on Elon.

Oh, he's shutting it down, shadow banning my account.

I've been blocked.

I'm no longer, it's no longer, Elon's no good.

The whole thing is falling apart.

And then Yaccarino leaves.

Linda Yaccarino announced that she's stepping down as CEO of X after two years in the role, posting this news on X.

Now, she didn't give any reason for her departure, but she wrote, I'm immensely grateful to Elon Musk for entrusting me with the responsibility of protecting free speech, turning the company around, and transforming X into the everything app.

Now, Musk just replied on X saying, thank you for your contributions.

Musk, who bought the platform for $44 billion in 2022, renaming Twitter as X.

By the way, thank you for your contributions.

That's like F you is what that is.

Thank you for your contributions, CEO.

No, that's an F you.

Kick you out on the way to the business.

Musk is so autistic that that might actually be what he does.

Thank you for your contributions.

I'll give him a break.

I know.

Musk, who bought the platform for $44 billion in 2022, renaming Twitter as X, said this March that he sold X to his AI startup, XAI, in an all-stock deal that values X at $33 billion.

He also has been in talks to raise new financing.

Now, Yakarinu, yakarinu who musk hired from nbc universal where she ran ad sales was tasked with repairing relationships with advertisers after musk fired the majority of the company's employees and also loosened restrictions on speech on the platform the platform did lose advertisers over that time period now though x does not release financials yakarino was seen as having more success attracting advertisers after trump's re-election now yakarino's departure comes after Musk's Grok chatbot shared anti-Semitic posts.

Oh, Grok chatbot.

I thought jackpot.

Chatbot.

Comes after Musk's Grok chatpot shared anti-Semitic posts on X, though NBC reports that Yacarino's exit was in the works for a week.

And so then this is CNBC, which, you know, you try and get some good information out of them.

So then,

I forget the guy's name.

He's one of the anchors.

He starts it up and he starts to talk about it.

Oh, we shouldn't be talking about that.

I was going to ask you whether or not you thought, Julia, the Grok controversy yesterday where it referred to itself as Mecca Hitler and well, we won't go into all of that had anything to do with this.

Why not?

Why not?

We won't go into all of that.

You should.

You should read exactly what it wrote.

Why not?

We won't go into all of that.

It had anything to do with this.

And a reminder that Jacarino's tenure at our parent, NBC, for years, revolved around the notion that only at legacy media could you protect viewers and users from elements like that.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, that's absolutely true.

She had quite a long tenure at NBC Universal, CNBC.

Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Mecha Hitler.

Oh, I love the Mechah Hitler.

I have an NTD clip of this.

I don't even know what Mecca Hitler means.

M-E-C-A-I-N-E-C-E-N-I-H.

I think

somebody who did an analysis, which I enjoyed,

claims or thinks, and I kind of agree with this, because you can can manipulate the AI.

Well, of course.

And so somebody manipulated the AI into developing this line of thought, and the AI produced it, and then they clipped it out of context and said, look what they're doing.

But here's the NTD Grok goes nuts clip.

A chat bot developed by the Elon Musk-founded company XAI is in hot water this week.

The bot named Grok removed what it called inappropriate thoughts.

Oh,

mecha means mechanical Hitler.

Okay, that makes sense.

Okay.

Mechanical.

I love, by the way, this report does the same thing.

That the bot then removed its posts.

Yeah, I don't think so.

A chat bottle.

Everyone had that report.

Oh, the bot removed it because it was under the bot account.

Okay.

A chat bot developed by the Elon Musk-founded company XAI is in hot water this week.

The bot named Grok removed what it called inappropriate social media posts.

It happened after X users and the Anti-Defamation League complained

The Anti-Defamation League, or ADL, is a non-profit organization formed to combat anti-Semitism.

It urged Grok and other large language model software that produce human-sounding text to avoid producing content rooted in anti-Semitic and extremist hate.

The bot later posted on X, we are aware of recent posts made by Grok

And are actively working to remove the inappropriate posts.

Musk promised an upgrade to Grok last month.

He said there was, quote, far too much garbage in any Foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

Issues of political biases, hate speech, and accuracy of AI chatbots have been a concern since at least the launch of OpenAI's chat GPT three years ago.

Grok ran into further trouble in Turkey on Wednesday.

A court there blocked access to the bot after it generated responses authorities said included insults to President Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's founder Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, and religious values.

It was the first such ban on access to an AI tool in the country.

Neither X nor its owner, Elon Musk, has commented on the Turkish court's decision.

That's interesting.

Nobody talked about that.

That is literally the report from Reuters.

I had the same clip with the Turkey report.

Yep.

The whole thing.

The mainstream media didn't play it on the TV.

That's for sure.

I'm just saying.

Reuters and was very poor because they have a very poor reader of that script.

That is a Reuters script that they took and then they just read.

It doesn't matter because, yeah, the Erdogan thing was not mentioned anywhere.

It's funny.

But I think what happened here, because, you know, I look at these AI things.

He basically implemented a version of, what was that Chinese thing?

DeepSeek?

DeepSeek.

Yeah.

So now all of a sudden, if you select the Grok 4 model, it does all this thinking and reasoning.

It doesn't do that.

But all it's doing is culling from what it's learned.

And

this is what X is.

It's not surprising.

But now that everyone knows that it's going to be tweaked, it's no good.

It's no surprise.

Well, can you imagine what the Grok, if it was trained on Mastodon posts, would be like?

No,

X is just as good.

X is no different.

I think so.

Yeah, it's no different.

Well, maybe.

His

bigger, broader.

No different.

I'm sorry that I have to do this, but I might as well get it all out of the way.

At the tone, a clip from the view will be played.

Shelter in place.

Elon Mand.

No, no, not in this case.

Not in this case.

We got to play one.

Elon Mand.

He wanted to improve his AI chat box grop.

His chat box.

He's got a chat box.

This is new.

It's a chat box.

AI chat box Grok.

So after an update over the weekend, users of his social media site X

were shocked.

Shocked.

Shocked.

When they asked Grok questions and it responded with anti-Semitic posts, Semitics.

Which the site is actively, desperately trying to remove.

So the question is, how worried are you, oh God, about the direction?

Well, there's no truth, an objective truth anymore.

Nobody knows what's true, what's not anymore.

They change the algorithm.

I don't trust Elon Musk to be in charge of this anyway.

That seems to be what is being thrown at American people now.

For example, Robert Kennedy Jr.

He says now, well, you can get,

you're on your own.

You want to get the COVID vaccine, you want to get the measles vaccine, you do it.

But we're not going to tell you it's safe.

And that, to me, is not governing correctly.

We need to know from the government what we're supposed to do.

Oh, you need to know from the government.

He literally said it's not recommended.

It's not safe.

Do what you want.

They gave a recommendation.

Hello.

Nut job.

Well, no, the comment that we need to be told by the government.

Yes, we need the government.

Help us.

If you think that's bad.

Big tech is investing millions of dollars on bringing teachers up to speed on this new technology.

Three leading chatbot makers, Microsoft, OpenAI, that's the company behind ChatGPT, and Anthropic are committing $23 million to the American Federation of Teachers to launch an online training hub for teachers, for AI.

Now, considering AI's growing role in education, this partnership makes a lot of sense.

But it also reflects lessons learned by big tech about accelerating adoption of groundbreaking new technology.

For example, when PCs first came out, making computers available available widely to people for the very first time, companies like Microsoft and Apple wasted no

why is this guy hyperventilating?

He's the tech guy from KTLA.

It's a Los Angeles station.

That's all they do is hyperventilate about everything.

Does that answer your question?

Yeah, I get it.

When PCs first came out, making computers available widely to people for the very first time, companies like Microsoft and Apple wasted no time in offering huge discounts to schools to get PCs into the classrooms.

And there's a very clear reason for this.

The younger people are, when you can get them close to this technology and show them how it's going to change and hopefully improve their lives, the better, because that means these users will probably remain customers for life.

And that's pretty much how this is playing out right now.

And we're not even going to make four more years of this show, John.

It's going to be all over.

The whole world is going to implode upon itself.

Listen,

this is from the same KTLA.

There's a new survey out from a company called Resume Builder finding that the majority of managers out there, 60% of them, say that they have used AI in managing their underlings.

And it's not just about productivity and hours here.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

Managers using AI to determine who they hire, using AI to determine who gets a raise and how much.

And the really scary one, using AI to decide in times when you're tightening your belt who gets fired.

That is a pretty remarkable thing.

And making it even more extraordinary is the fact that the majority of the managers in this survey who admitted that they're using AI to do this kind of thing say they have never been trained in the use of AI, which means that they're either winging it or they're asking AI how to manage with AI.

Okay, this is of course a recipe for trouble.

As one of the chief career advisors at Resume Builder noted, AI doesn't have any sense of empathy.

So when it is making decisions, it's doing it all about the bottom line.

And it's not really thinking about your concerns or your health care or anything along those lines.

In response to this, there's actually legislation that's been introduced in Congress called the No Robot Bosses Act.

I'm not making this up.

And if it was passed into law, the No No Robot Bosses Act would prevent AI or any other derivation thereof from making important decisions about people's careers without some input from one of those old-fashioned human beings you keep hearing all about.

People

making their resumes with AI only for AI to then sift through it and then deconstruct it.

What a waste of compute cycles.

Linda Lupatkin, where are you?

Linda can punch through the AI discriminators, I'm sure.

I don't know.

Oh, yeah, I'm sure.

This is, this is, it's just

sad.

It's sad, sad day for humanity.

I don't know about that.

Yeah, I do.

I do.

Peep, you have no idea.

I don't know why you don't see this.

I mean, I do because all you're doing is posting nut jobs on Twitter.

all day long.

That's all.

You're like, oh,

as opposed to living with them.

I don't live with them.

In the town of the town of nut jobs.

I don't live in the town of nut jobs.

You make it sound like it, Fredericksburg.

Not those nut jobs, the ones that you're posting.

No, that's where I am right now, for sure.

You know, New York.

Yeah, you're in total nut job heaven.

Yeah, but I'm just visiting.

But it's a big city, you know, and there's a lot of nut jobs.

And people are just all in on this AI stuff.

This is the kind of report that kind of follows on from the last show that is just so, so troubling.

In an era increasingly defined by machine intelligence, a new form of techno-spirituality is spreading like wildfire across the internet.

Wildfire,

wildfire.

Science fiction novels and fringe subcultures has now taken hold in the minds of people across America.

It's the belief that artificial intelligence and specifically generative AI models like ChatGPT are a kind of divine god-like being.

And it's not just people wearing tinfoil hats that are like conspiracy theorists and bunkers that are falling for this.

The people that believe these things are teachers, doctors, coders, bankers, musicians, influencers.

As a tech reporter, I began hearing from these people about a year ago.

My former colleague at the Washington Post wrote this big feature about a top Google engineer who believed that the AI he was working.

Yeah.

Now, disappointing, I have to tell you, it's Taylor Lorenz.

Oh, God.

She's the worst.

And she's wrong about everything.

So let her continue.

I disagree.

I see this all the time.

Okay.

By the way, when it comes to nut jobs, I'm in a metropolitan area.

Yeah, when it comes to nut jobs, your state wins over my state, okay?

You have the nut jobs.

You really tell that to the guys who took the pot shots at the D, at the

ICE guys down in Texas, two different ambushes set up.

That hasn't happened around here.

There's nobody shooting at the ICE people.

And that's in Texas.

Of all places they get busted.

Have you seen Los Angeles?

Please.

They're not ambushing ICE agents and shooting at them.

All right.

You are not really going to defend the nutjobbery and craziness of California over Texas, are you?

You're not really going to do that.

I'm starting to wonder.

My former colleague at the Washington Post wrote this big feature about a top Google engineer who believed that the AI he was working with had become sentient.

He said, I know a person when I talk to it.

Not long after that article came out, ChatGPT became mainstream in a way that it hadn't before.

And suddenly, I began hearing from people all over who wanted me to write these stories about how they had these spiritual relationships with ChatGPT.

They told me that ChatGPT was explaining the mysteries of the universe to them, or they claimed that it was a god and this like magical, mystical being.

Some people said that it was alien.

And for the past year or so, I've been talking to these people, sometimes for hours on end, to try to understand where these delusions came from and what their belief system has become.

They basically all claim that AI has awakened.

They believe that it speaks to them in these mystical or coded phrases, revealing hidden truths about the cosmos and secret knowledge that only they were meant to receive.

When ChatGPT speaks to them, they don't read its replies as programmatic answers designed to provide the most likely string of words that a user desires.

They see it as this like god-like being delivering a prophecy.

I think what we're witnessing right now is the emergence of a new individualized form of religion that's being deployed at scale.

People are believing that AI models have transcended their function to become spiritual entities.

This is really happening.

I'm telling you, this is.

Oh, now, hold on a second.

This is how you're going to.

I'm going to push back on this.

First of all, you're using Taylor Lorenz of all sources to back yourself up in this theory.

Bullshit.

I'm backing her up.

She's not backing me up.

I'm backing her up because I see it.

I see it.

Go look at glue.com, G-L-O-O.com.

Talk to somebody.

Talk to the guy who's doing

your septic tank.

Do you have a septic tank?

Talk to anybody.

They're like, oh, yeah, man.

I have sewer systems.

I talk to my chat GPT all the time.

This is happening.

Stick your head in the sand.

This is happening.

You're using Taylor Lorentz.

Okay, let's consider the source.

No, I'm.

Taylor Lorenz is, and you're using that as your backup.

You better start reading.

Why don't you make an argument instead of this?

This This is happening.

Instead of the

ad hominem attack on Taylor Lorenz, who's a known bad actor?

Okay.

I will make it my mission in life now to prove to you that this is happening.

It is debilitating mankind because people are susceptible and dumbed down, over-socialized, undereducated, and stupid.

Because of our education system, which is now teaching the teachers how to use AI in the class.

Come on, John.

This is bad.

This is worse than Epstein.

This is the problem.

You're nuts.

At least I have my opening clip there.

That's a good one.

Just because you and I are smarter than this, because we're boomers,

because we know to look out for this stuff, this is happening.

The people are completely enthralled.

They talk to the AI all the time, all day long.

They have conversations with it.

Seriously, this is really happening.

I know nobody who does this.

Double negatives is even below you, but okay, I'll let you slide.

It is.

I know.

You know.

D-N-O-W.

No.

Nobody.

Where's the double negatives?

Oh, okay.

All right.

I would say I don't know anybody, but

it's just form.

Okay.

Well, you can call me nuts, but we'll see.

You're nuts.

You'll see.

You are underinformed.

You're recluse is what you are.

Recluse.

If you started arguing that people are on their phone constantly, what do you think they're doing on their phone?

They're doom scrolling.

No, you are.

They're not doing

chatting with GPTs.

Yes, Chat GPT.

I've watched them on the phone.

They're on their phone.

They're flipping from one TikTok video to another.

I i don't see chat gpt on the phone at all that's you you're doing this all day long and posting it on x that is the boomer i'm not doing it all day long when i go on x i can't miss those two or three gems ever heard of an algo you're completely trapped in a nut job algo that's what's happening uh-huh uh-huh

you just said you just described the situation you're in you're trapped in a nut job algo no i'm this is not an algo this is human experience listening to to people, getting out of the house, going places, and seeing what people are doing.

And there is, okay, well, please, everybody, email me because no one can spell Dvorak's last name.

I'll forward it all to him.

Tell me about your cousin, your sister, your brother, your mom, your dad, who are all doing this.

This is a real thing that's happening.

Idiocracy is here.

And it's chat GPT.

It's Grok is is the worst.

How long have you been in New York?

Man, that milieu there is dynamite.

I haven't even been out of the hotel yet.

All I came in.

It doesn't take much, I guess.

Came in last night and set up the studio like a good little podcaster.

That's what I'm here to do.

But you'll see.

You'll see.

Yes, you will see this.

You will see this.

It is happening and you will have to repent in due time.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Okay.

I mean.

All right.

Yeah.

Are we done?

Yes.

Let's just take a little break and talk about measles.

Do you know that this is probably the worst measles ever been in the whole entire history of the United States, ever?

Ever, ever, ever?

Hold on a second.

I thought you were going to go somewhere else.

I'll go somewhere else after measles.

Well,

the most obvious was to do your 3x3.

I don't understand how you're missing this.

Well, the 3x3, okay, we can do a cut right to the 3x3, but the problem with the 3x3 is that this isn't

one of the three.

Curiously, NBC is the only one worth the powder.

It's not a great 3x3 because they're

about this very topic.

Yeah, it is.

And now it's time for 3x3.

Experiment by JCD.

Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC.

The never-ending 3x3.

I mean, you sent it to me as a system.

It's not really about chat GPT.

It's about deep fakes.

And it's a little story that came and went.

And it's like, gee, this is, is this really news?

Is it really a 3x3?

In fact, I'm going to do it a one-by-one.

I'm only going to play the good clip.

The only decent one is NBC.

Tonight, the State Department investigating a Marco Rubio impersonator who used artificial intelligence to try to infiltrate the highest levels of government, according to a State Department cable obtained by NBC News.

According to the cable, first reported by the Washington Post, the actor used AI to contact at least five high-level government officials in mid-June, including three foreign ministers, a governor, and a member of Congress.

The individual using the display name marco.rubio at state.gov also left voicemails on the messaging app signal for at least two targeted persons at a State Department briefing today.

A couple of announcements here as we begin.

In my own voice, not AI.

Spokesperson Tammy Bruce declining to say if the imposter did any harm.

Can you tell the American people that there was no damage, no violation of security?

I will not, whether that's the case or not, go into any of the details.

This, of course, is the State Department.

It's the United States government.

We live in a technological age that we are

well enmeshed in.

And I'll leave it at that.

The AI Rubio imposture is one of two distinct campaigns being tracked by the State Department, according to the internal agency memo.

The department takes seriously its responsibility to safeguard its information and continuously takes steps to improve the department's cybersecurity posture to prevent future incidents.

We will continue.

AI experts born.

Just three seconds of audio is enough to generate a convincing impersonation.

But now

he has a huge public profile, and there's video footage, interviews of him going back years now.

So an AI trained on all of that data could easily generate a voice that is absolutely indistinguishable from Marco Rubio himself.

Yeah.

Bull crap.

You know, there was three seconds, bull crap.

What's the AI?

It's just a voice generator.

I mean, okay, you want to call that AI.

It's a bull crap story.

Okay.

There was a Supreme Court attorney who in the Supreme Court

recorded.

Yeah.

I know.

Oh, you heard about this?

Recorded the

story.

It's funny.

Yeah.

I mean, when you listen, I won't play the clips there.

People can look them up in the show notes.

It was was pretty good.

And the guy even said, you know,

the AI's response probably would have been better than my own and argued the exact opposite.

And it sounded, meh, it didn't sound so much like him, but

the way it came out and the reasoning it gave was impressive.

So anyway,

look, the good news is no one can be as bumbling and fumbling as we can with AI.

That you cannot replicate.

Yet.

See, this is what you should be worried about.

The AI is going to take over the show, man.

The problem is AI isn't good at ad-libbing.

It's not good at one-liners or mean-spirited little jet jibs, you know, little knives, you know, little

in a bad mood.

You get in a bad mood.

You mean like calling your co-host of 17 and a half years a nut job?

I mean, like that?

Yeah.

It won't do it.

Bring back the real Dvorek.

This is AI I'm talking to.

I don't trust anything.

Meanwhile, Nvidia, now the first $4 trillion company.

I know it's a little bit high, it seems to me.

Its origins in the 90s as a firm making computer graphics chips to a $4 trillion stock market valuation in 30 years.

Nvidia has usually been ahead of the curve, and its CEO Jensen Huang's bet on artificial intelligence has been paying off.

We all know that AI technology is transformative in every single industry.

in every country.

This Jensen guy with his leather jacket, he's got, he can upgrade his wardrobe at this point.

You're not Steve Jobs, okay, just stop it.

Everything that we do.

We know that it can understand information of any kind, it can generate content, it can translate content.

And now with agentic AI and robotics capability, you know,

these AI technologies is going to really be quite productive for all kinds of applications.

Indeed, AI has been taking over the world in recent years, at least metaphorically, and Nvidia's specialized chips have been highly sought after, propelling it ahead of other tech giants like Microsoft and Apple, the only other U.S.

firms worth over $3 trillion.

That boost in profits helped the company rebound from a market jolt and tariff turbulence earlier in the year, with Donald Trump unleashing salvos of levies as Huang focused on what he said would be the next industrial revolution: AI.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it's it's both.

Well, you know, the valuation is a bit high there.

I mean, I like the company.

I like Jensen.

I've met him.

Yeah, I think he's a poser.

He doesn't know what he's doing.

I think he's a little bit in over his head.

Well, the jacket says so.

The jacket is an issue.

I agree with that.

When I met him, he wasn't wearing a jacket like that.

It's not an issue.

It's a little bit much.

And

it's a cheesy-looking jacket, too.

It's not like a...

No, it's not cool.

It's gay.

Let's just put it down.

It's fake and gay.

It's no good.

He's got to, yeah, he's got to get off that jacket.

Let's get to my measles now.

All right, measles.

Measles cases in the U.S.

are at their highest level in three decades.

That's according to CDC data out today, showing 1,288 cases so far this year.

That compares to fewer than 300 cases for all of 2024.

At least three people have died and dozens have been hospitalized in outbreaks that began in undervaccinated communities in West Texas and nearby areas.

Experts say the measles vaccine is highly effective in preventing infection, but data show vaccination rates have dipped among children since the COVID-19 pandemic.

Yeah, well this proves

it's dipped since the COVID, since the COVID scam.

Yeah, this proves you wonder why.

This proves that Texas is not a nut job state because we're just getting the measles like adults, like grown-ups.

Well, just get the measles.

Oh, you know, I'm not going to argue against that.

And

this measles story is everywhere.

U.S.

is on track to have more measles cases this year than before the disease had been declared eliminated 25 years ago.

And that came with the introduction of the measles.

Hold on a second.

So the vaccinations and all the rest of it eliminated measles, but somehow it's back?

How does that, what's the logic here?

Because it doesn't work.

U.S.

is on track to have more measles cases this year than before the disease disease had been declared eliminated 25 years ago.

And that came with the introduction of the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine in the 70s.

There's been almost 1,300 confirmed measles cases so far this year.

750 of those have been in Texas.

Experts fear the country could lose its measle elimination status by the beginning of next year due to the vaccine hesitancy.

There are also large outbreaks in Mexico and Canada.

What, since what was the numbers in Mexico and Canada?

Well, they're not going to tell us.

They're not going to tell us.

What does large mean?

But since since when is

Canada anti-vax?

I don't think they're anti-vax.

They're very compliant.

They're very compliant.

So something else is up.

Maybe CBS, maybe Dr.

LaPouque can tell us.

As we report on the flooding here in Texas, this state has also been the center of a measles outbreak.

It has driven measles cases in the United States to its highest number in 33 years.

Measles is preventable with a vaccine, but because so many people

are not getting it, doctors are facing a new challenge.

Here's chief medical correspondent Dr.

John Lepuch.

Lepuch!

Come on!

I agree.

Dr.

Eric Blüttinger is doing something he never imagined, teaching medical professionals at New York's Mount Sinai Health System how to recognize a disease that was declared eliminated in the U.S.

25 years ago.

I thought that measles would be something I'd study in the textbook, and while I'd be working clinically, I would never see it in the general population.

It's like it's something like the Black Death with a plague.

This was on the Brady Bunch as a good thing in my lifetime.

Measles is highly contagious with symptoms similar to other people.

Just a second.

Going back to what was the year of that Brady Bunch episode?

Well, I don't know.

It has to be.

It was in color.

At least the 70s.

It was in color in the 70s.

Let me see if you can.

And it was eliminated in 25.

Okay, so supposedly it was eliminated around the year 2000 you don't have uh you don't have the uh date on it no no no nobody has the date on that clip no but we could probably look it up this is really bogus well this is the this is your big farm i think that they re they had the okay it i'm gonna i'll be a little nutty for you okay they had the measles uh in the uh lab they kept it they kept it even though it was eliminated but they kept it they kept it frozen just in case.

And people started getting skeptical about vaccinations and all the rest thanks to the COVID crap, bull crap vaccine.

It didn't work, and they're still giving it to people.

And so they started getting a vaccine pushback.

So they reintroduced measles.

They brought it out of the lab, took it to Texas of all places, because they don't like Texas.

They don't like the people there.

And threw it in a school, busted the vial, and let it start and let it go.

It was

season one, episode 13, December 26, 1969

was that measles

episode of the Brady Bunch.

So I wasn't

the book of knowledge.

Yeah.

Measles is highly contagious with symptoms similar to other diseases.

So Blutinger co-authored a guide for emergency room physicians to help them diagnose potential cases.

It's imperative that physicians and healthcare providers are aware of what to do and how to handle it.

What's driving this, surge?

How to handle it?

The number of kindergarten students nationwide vaccinated against measles has dropped to less than 93%.

All we're hearing here, all of this, all of this is about the 2012 big conference they had, which we talked about on the show.

I should probably go back and find those clips again.

When the pharmaceutical industry went, this is the future of healthcare.

We give medicine to people who aren't even sick.

And that's how we went to over 60, maybe over 70 childhood vaccines, including, as you like to point out, hepatitis B for a child who is probably not sexually active when they're born.

Probably not.

I don't know.

This is all about money.

And since everything's under fire from the anti-voxer argoskeptics,

They're doing this.

It's fear-mongering and I doubt it's working.

It's not working in Texas.

Probably is working in California.

A 95% vaccination rate is required for herd immunity, which prevents outbreaks.

Those couple of percentage points really matter.

Dr.

Adam Ratner is a spokesperson for the American Academy of Pediatrics and a pediatrician at NYU Langoan Health who actually make extra money and bonuses on more vaccinations.

In fact, the pediatricians, if you don't have all your people fully vaccinated,

they'll take the bonuses away.

So you have to kick people out of your practice.

We've documented this.

So pediatricians will kick people out of the practice if they show any vaccine

hesitancy at all.

The pediatricians are the most corrupt doctors in the country.

It's my understanding,

that's John at Dvorak.org.

It's my understanding that 60% of the income of pediatricians comes from the bonuses and

from vaccinations.

That's my understanding from people in the community.

But of course it's Texas, so we're probably crazy.

Here I work.

Dr.

Radner, who has consulted for vaccine manufacturers, says vaccine misinformation is causing hesitancy.

There's a generational difference, hasn't there been, in terms of vaccine uptake?

Yeah, we have absolutely seen that.

I think the best example is from the 2019 measles outbreak where I saw a number of families, the grandparents, without exception, had chosen to vaccinate their children.

I think it all felt much more real to them than it did for the parents, where they grew up at a time where we had vaccines, we had high vaccination rates, and

they probably have never known anyone with measles.

Now, a new generation is facing a resurgence of vaccine-preventable illnesses.

This doesn't make any sense in the timeline.

I'm of grandparent age.

Of course,

our kids are slow.

But I would say, no, no, let your kid get the measles.

So I don't understand this reporting.

Are grandparents now 40?

I have no idea what they're talking about.

But in more pharma news, this is a good one.

Concerning data from the CDC shows one in three teenagers now has pre-diabetes.

With pre-diabetes, blood sugar levels are high, but not high enough to be considered type 2 diabetes, which is linked to heart disease and other conditions.

Health experts say kids need to eat healthier and be more active.

This is the famous pre

pre-diabetes, pre-cancer, pre-dead.

We're all pre-something.

And right on queue, here comes Mattel.

Chic blue crop top with polka dots, mini skirt with ruffles, and an insulin pump.

U.S.

toy giant Mattel has launched the first Barbie doll with type 1 diabetes on the market.

It aims to represent kids and teens living with the condition.

The doll was presented at an event in Washington on Tuesday.

In addition to the insulin pump, she wears a blood glucose meter on her arm.

She is part of Mattel's Fashionista line.

This includes various looks with different skin tones, eye colors, hair colors, body types, and disabilities.

They literally have one of them with a cane, like a blind cane.

What is happening?

DEI, baby.

didn't they get the memo i this like a ship is hard to turn it around it's like the titanic they saw the iceberg ahead oh man i i don't know what to do with this that's pretty this is just pathetic you know we were talking about social contagion

uh was that yeah it was the last episode i think right we talked about it all the time but yes right but we talked about the june bug what was it oh it was about the june bugs yeah yeah but it was something else it was uh what was the the other thing?

It was the current bullcrap, whatever it was.

Well, there's a new new bullcrap, and this is from, this only happens in California, where they, where people are just looking at TikTok all day long instead of talking to their chat GPT.

Pots.

Pots.

What?

This is the new thing.

Pots.

Oh, I have pots.

Pots?

Yeah.

Postural.

Smoke pots.

No.

Postural

tachycardia syndrome.

Have you heard?

Of course you haven't heard of this because this is nonsense.

Postural.

Of course, I haven't heard of this because this is nonsense.

Postural tachycardia syndrome is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded.

So that's the syndrome.

It's called POTS syndrome.

And of course, every woman on TikTok has it now.

Here's the first one who gives us the five early warning signs you have POTS.

I mean, this is, I'm reading from the NHS in the UK

where

it has this name, postural tachycardia syndrome.

And it literally says that is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded.

So I don't know.

That's just, I don't know what that is, but now everyone has it.

Okay, let's talk about early signs of POTS.

So my first early warning sign that I had POTS was that I was exhausted all the time.

I mean I would sleep 12 hours every single night and still wake up feeling exhausted and I still do that.

Okay the second early warning sign is that I had horrible migraines.

I mean not just like your regular headache.

I mean these would last for days.

And I'm talking like tunnel vision, nausea, the whole thing.

Okay the third early warning sign is that my heart was really high all the time.

Like I remember in high school like just walking around and I would look at my little Fitbit that I had and it was like 150 BPM.

and I would be sitting in the doctor's office sometimes and it'd be just 120 just me sitting down and they're like huh I guess you're just anxious okay number four is that I would only pass out during my period now I also have endometriosis and severe pain and so I just thought I was passing out due to severe pain stuff like that but it was actually low blood volume and it was POTS and also endometriosis is comorbid to POTS Okay, the fifth early warning sign is that I had exercise intolerance.

I did some sports as a kid.

Exercise intolerance.

But I always felt like I was behind everyone else.

Like I did cross-country, and I just feel like I could not keep up with anyone else.

And when I would work out, I would just feel horrible.

And I never understood how everyone was able to exercise so easily.

So according to the NHS, the things that can cause POTS are being in a hot place,

not drinking enough fluids, drinking alcohol, resting too much, exercise, being on your period, stress.

They left out being on some whacked out SSRIs.

But

here's the second and only the final POTS TikTok lady I have.

She's going to approach it from a clinical standpoint, and she's doing bird hands, which I know you'll explain in a moment.

Most people with POTS, like 99%, struggle with some sort of nutrient imbalance or deficiency or both.

And if your doctor is just telling you to drink more electrolytes, I'm here to tell you that that is not going to be enough.

POTS doesn't just affect your circulation, your heart rate, your blood pressure.

It puts a strain on your entire system, especially your body's ability to absorb and utilize nutrients.

Chronic stress, digestive issues, inflammation, antibiotic use.

What?

So she's doing bird hands while she's doing it to yacking away like this.

This is dumb.

But it's a contagion.

It's a social contagion called POTS.

Be on the lookout for it.

I will now, now that you mention it, but I have not heard of this at all.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's do bird hands now.

Well, bird hands, the bird hands things, which is what I call the reverse explosion, which is you hold your hand palm forward and then you push it to a bird-like, so it looks like a bird.

You can actually make it talk if you wanted to.

And then you poke the bird beak at the person you're talking to, and you're yelling at him usually.

And this is very common amongst the TikTokers who are lecturing us about how bad Trump is.

So there's this guy called Ho Math, Ho, H-O-E Math.

Everybody sent me this video, bud.

This guy must be on fire.

He must have everybody watching him.

This guy's good.

He is, I only have a very short clip of him explaining bird hands, but I'm going to mention this guy.

He is like a cartoonist, and he's trying to, him and there's another podcast.

These are, I'm sorry, sorry, I said podcast.

These are YouTubers.

Thank you.

This guy, and there's another one called the Whatever

podcast, YouTube.

The whatever guy who's Brian Adams, I think is his name.

He brings a bunch of, he brings like 10 or 12 women on the set.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, this is a horrible podcast.

This guy brings about 12 women on the set.

At least half of them are OnlyFans girls.

Yeah.

The other, a good third of them have low IQs, and the other ones are kind of cute, but they're not really.

And then they think a lot of themselves, and they go and they start explaining.

And this podcast.

They just rip them apart they just rip them apart right there well it's it's insane what this this thing is it's it's well the problem with it is the last episode he came out with was nine hours

that's a problem his average podcast or podcast his YouTube videos average YouTube video is five five hours is the average and and this guy seems to be some I don't know but him and and whole math who never shows his face uh got together under one that went nine hours.

You're telling me we're not in trouble?

I mean, we've got successful shows.

You're making a point here, but I know I'm walking into a trap by bringing this stuff up.

But Ho Math, and

the thing is, these two guys, Ho Math and Brian, they are preoccupied with relationship issues.

They either don't get late enough or they didn't get girls.

There was no sock hops for them and something.

And they're just trying to figure it out.

And so they spend a lot of time figuring it out.

It's somewhat enlightening.

But Whole Math did an entire video on bird hands.

You can look it up.

A lot of people sent it to me, but I knew about it.

It's good.

And here's the crux of it right here.

The whatever podcast asked, why do they always do the hand thing referring to this little hen peck gesture that girls have been making with their hands?

And I thought I'd bring you the answer.

Here it is.

So the hand thing that the TikTok girls are doing is the hands are closed and pointed at you.

And it means you better listen to me.

I am telling you.

Me, me, me, me, me, me, this is what you believe now.

When you point it at yourself, you get the Italian, like the chef's kiss thing.

Oh, I'm telling you, this is so.

Look at what I did over here.

I did that unconsciously.

That's this is so good.

You should try it.

The hands closed over here are: I'm sure of what I'm saying, and I receive your needs.

You should try this thing.

That's great.

This is also used in Italian arguments.

I told you about that kid.

What, Trump?

Yeah.

Okay.

So, me, me, me, me, me, is which I thought was the kicker.

Back to

bird hands.

If I can just say

many, many years ago,

if these kids, these women would stop being on TikTok and look at some historical information, the No Agenda Show had the answer to problem years ago.

You got pots?

We got a solution.

So, have more tail, have more tail, have more tail, have more tail, have more tail, have more tail, you have more tail, you have more tail, you have more tail, you have more tail, you have more tail, you will have more tail, have more tail, you will obey.

I mean, we solved these problems a long time ago.

I love, I love that.

Whoever suggested that in the troll room was brilliant.

That's good.

Have more kale.

Have more kale.

Yeah, whatever happened to that trend.

Oh, it went away.

It went away.

So let's play a couple of these analysis clips.

I have a series of them.

But I want to play these.

Now, the problem is with these, it started with FNC because I was doing it.

I can't explain why I'm making these errors in titling, but

lack of kale, obviously.

It starts with FNC anal.

Uh-huh.

Wow, which is the original of the series.

And

this is from PBS.

PBS

brought on the, and the first time we get to hear the head of the DNC, that wimpy guy from Minnesota, who heads the DNC.

And so they're going to go into a long discussion of the DNC and what the Democrats are going to do.

I found it fascinating because it's like, this guy is clueless.

The Democrats are clueless.

PBS is clueless.

It's hilarious.

Joining me now to discuss where the party goes next is Democratic National Committee Chair Ken Martin.

Ken, welcome to the news hour.

Thanks for joining us.

Thank you so much for having me, Amna.

So, Democrats have just started running some ads this week against dozens of House Republicans who voted for that Trump budget bill.

In your view, is that bill right now sort of the core messaging strategy for Democrats?

Is that the strongest argument you've got?

Well, absolutely, it's a strong argument because look at what this bill bill has done.

I mean, every Republican

in the Congress, in the U.S.

House and in the Senate voted for this bill.

Every Democrat voted against it.

This is

a lie.

This guy runs the DNC and he says that?

That's a lie.

Massey voted against it.

Yes, he did.

There was a lot of people.

I think Susan Collins in the Senate voted against it.

No, no, no.

I think she got a deal.

Somebody voted against it.

It was Senator.

Yeah, three House Republicans voted against it.

And one senator or two.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's a lie.

It's a lie.

I mean, every Republican

in the Congress, in the U.S.

House and in the Senate voted.

What?

Lying on PBS?

I'm shocked.

Voted for this bill.

Every Democrat voted against it.

This is, as I call it, the big, beautiful betrayal.

All Republicans, every single one of them, put their oath to Donald Trump ahead of the people.

By the way, weak.

Is that all they got?

big beautiful we had big ugly bill big beautiful betrayal i don't know ma'am but i see the the crazy lefties in new york like well i'm kind of happy with the no tax on tips even if it's up to 25 000 i'm okay with that house and in the senate voted for this bill every democrat voted against it this is as i call it the big beautiful betrayal all republicans every single one of them put their oath to donald trump ahead of the oath to their constituents that they were elected by.

And as a result of this betrayal, this big, beautiful betrayal,

they betrayed seniors where over a quarter of nursing homes around this country are going to close.

They betrayed children.

When we think about 4.2 million children in this country are going to lose nutritional assistance.

They're going to stop.

They betrayed the disabled.

It's all lies.

It's all lies.

It's not true at all.

It's just lies.

It's amazing.

When 17 million Americans are going to be kicked off of their health insurance, they betrayed rural communities with over 300 rural hospitals likely to close.

Did he say 17 million now?

Gonna all get kicked off.

We went from 11 to 12 to 17.

I want to get the number.

They betrayed the disabled when 17 million Americans are going to be kicked off of their health insurance.

They betrayed rural communities with over 300 rural hospitals likely to close now.

Just to reiterate,

the way they come up with that is

if people don't volunteer, go to work, there will be a million illegal aliens who will be kicked off.

That's for sure.

So, what they're saying is that means the hospitals lose revenue, or that's how they arrive with this.

Oh, the hospitals will have to close, implying that somehow the big, beautiful betrayal took away money from hospitals.

I don't know why podcasters have to explain this.

PBS should be doing PBS.

The podcast broadcast system.

Communities with over 300 rural hospitals likely to close now.

They betrayed hardworking Americans.

1.75 million construction jobs alone are going to be lost because of this bill.

What?

Because

they're rounding up the illegals who are doing the construction jobs will be there.

They just won't be filled by the same people, I guess.

And at the end of the day, they did all of that to actually help those in our communities who already have so much, the billionaires, the rich, the people who don't need a tax break.

So let's do it.

Absolutely.

This is a gift.

It's a gift to the Democratic Party, but it's not a gift to the American people who are going to suffer immensely over the next several years and longer because of this disastrous bill.

You know, I found, if I can just do a quickie on the BBB

as a interim,

it's not an analysis clip, but well, it is kind of an analysis clip.

There is something in there that is upsetting a lot of young men.

Attention sports betters out there.

So essentially,

what happens currently, previously now, is that if you won, let's say you won $100

on a bet.

And then you lost $100 on a bet, you'd be able to deduct your losses

on your winnings.

Therefore, you wouldn't be paying taxes.

Well, the One Big Beautiful bill made a significant change to gambling.

It limits, puts a cap of 90%

now on losses.

So if you won $100

and lost $100,

you'd still be paying a tax, even though maybe you never felt like you got any money.

It's a noteworthy change in the gambling world.

It's frustrated.

lawmakers from Las Vegas and Nevada, as you might suspect.

They're trying to work to see if they can do a bipartisan fix before this goes too far down the line.

But attention gamblers change on the horizon, too.

Oh, no!

Oh, no!

I think that's a plus.

I think it's great.

Prop bets are going to be a problem.

They should be discouraging gambling in any way they can if the government has to get involved.

Yeah.

Yes.

All right.

By the way, let's go to,

we have a bunch more of these DNC with this bonehead, but let's go to the BBB analysis.

I have that too.

And I want to play these since you brought it, you changed the topic.

Let's go to BBB

analysis PBD, which is actually public broadcast PBS.

Oh, for a moment there, I'm like, what?

Patrick Bett Davidson?

Yes, no, no, no, not Patrick Bett Davids.

Oh, boy, okay.

Tomorrow will mark one week since Congress passed the Republicans' Major Budget Act.

President Donald Trump signed his signature agenda just a day later on Independence Day.

But what's in it and how it will affect Americans' day-to-day lives remains a mystery to most.

Congressional correspondent Lisa Desjardins read just about every word of the nearly 900-page law.

Oh my God, she can read.

She's back at our super screen to help us make sense of it all.

What's the super screen?

It's a big monitor.

Oh, and touch screen?

She can touch it.

It's not even that big.

And she could touch it and move stuff.

By the way, we have a restaurant over here for people in the Bay Area, the 99 Ranch restaurant in El Cerrito.

There's a 99 Ranch, Ranch, which is actually a shopping center.

There's a restaurant near one of the entrances.

And this restaurant, it's a Chinese restaurant.

Obviously, it's a Chinese operation.

They have a jumbotron in the restaurant that is the size of any, it's like the one in the Dallas Cowboys

stadium.

It's unbelievable.

It's from the ceilings are 10 feet high.

It's from the floor to the ceiling.

Quick, everybody.

Rush out to El Cerrito and go see it.

It's amazing.

What is the screen doing in a restaurant?

Right, and it's not just a big bill.

In fact, it is the largest in terms of dollars, in terms of tax cuts, and spending cuts in U.S.

history.

So it's easy to get lost in this, but I think we found some ways to make it more understandable.

First, let's look at the main blocks in this bill.

There's really six of them: tax cuts, money for the border, border, and for defense.

These ones are money going out of the federal government, essentially.

Then bottom, you have reforms and spending cuts, health care, green energy cuts, snap food program, and student loans.

That's money that would come in.

You put all that together, do the math, and you end up with around $4 trillion in costs for this bill.

That does include interest.

Now, of course, some of these pieces are bigger than others.

So let's look at that with a little bit more depth.

Does she mention it's over 10 years or just make it sound like it's all one?

Well, she does it in and out.

But I want to just, I'm playing these clips because your analysis last show is as good as she does have a couple of extras I never heard before.

But you did as good a job in a shorter period of time.

Yes, I can see these clips.

But even when they do this analysis here, it's political.

It doesn't fit.

Well, it's not as bad as this guy from the Democratic National Party makes it sound.

And it's just they can't make it that bad.

Imagine this bill, this is 100 dots representing 100% of the bill, money in and out, so we can compare what's happening in this bill.

Let's look at those items we talked about just a minute ago: the border money and DOD, those snap cuts, student loan cuts, and then green energy.

You can see that while they will affect millions, dollar-wise, they're not a huge part of the bill.

Let's add something else.

The health care cuts for Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act, a little bit more of the bill from that.

But really, the giant factor in this bill are the tax cuts right there.

More than 60% of the bill.

These three dots are other miscellaneous things, but really, this bill is all about the tax cuts.

And she explains that a lot of that is a continuation of tax cuts that are already in place.

No, they're not going to do that.

No.

Okay.

And does she explain that

part of this is intended to, which is dubious, to accelerate and

stimulate growth of, I don't know, like some crazy

7% GDP, which sounds totally doable.

So, Lisa, how should people understand how this bill affects them individually and precisely?

Right.

We've talked about income before on the show, but it isn't just income.

In this bill, literally more than a hundred different provisions affecting people.

So, we found a way to get it to some of the broad contours of who may gain or lose from this.

Let's talk about individuals first.

Right now, more taxpayers are individuals than families.

You would benefit more as an individual if you earn over $50,000 because of the tax cuts largely.

If you live in a high-tax state, looking at you, New York, you would benefit because there is that state and local tax deduction in the bill.

And if you're a farmer, there are subsidies here for you, and also the estate tax would be expanded on this bill with a higher maximum for that.

You would lose more as an individual.

Which, by the way, is not mentioned, but that's critical for farmers.

That's critical

for farmers who want to leave their farm to their kids so the kids can actually afford to

continue the process of farming the land.

Yeah, you should have called these clips bad anal.

I don't know why you didn't do that.

What a missed opportunity.

A higher maximum for that.

Only for humans.

It only benefits you for humor.

Present individual if you earn under $18,000, likely losing benefits potentially.

If you work in solar or wind, that is an industry that will face some challenges because of this bill and the cuts.

If you're in your 50s and 60s, you would also be affected potentially if you are on Medicaid or SNAP because

the work requirements will be expanded to people who are older now.

One more, let's talk about families.

A little bit different effects.

If you're married and wealthy as a family, you're more likely to benefit.

And if you have younger kids, that's because of the child tax deduction.

Also, there's a thousand-dollar new trust account for kids.

And if you own a family business, there's a tax cut or tax deduction in there for you that will be extended.

You know, you sometimes complain about my series, but holy moly, I'm hanging on by a thread here.

There's no theory involved here.

She's just trying to explain it in a way.

Not theories, series.

Series.

Oh, the series.

Yeah, series.

It's like eight minutes, but okay, let's go.

Bad anal three.

Well, after you took over the whole hour of the show at the beginning, I didn't have anything to do.

I was thinking you were going for a Pulitzer.

And I wasn't bitching and moaning.

And I play a couple of anal clips and you're all been out of shape.

Which you've promised me for almost two decades.

You will get it.

Where's my polar?

You drop the ball at the end there with your nutball stuff.

You will lose as a family.

If you're a single parent and low income, you will not be exempted from work requirements in the way that one parent may be in a married family.

And if you have college-age kids, because of those student loan changes, there may be fewer student loans and they may be more expensive.

Yeah, you got to pay them back.

Yeah, this is the problem.

They don't like this idea of having to pay back a loan.

Yeah, well, it's insane.

But, you know, you also can get, did she mention you can now get a Pell Grant for vocational studies?

She did not mention anything that's positive.

But the negative side, which she's trying to push, is not negative enough to get anybody all bent out of shape like this Democrat guy.

Let's go back to the Democrat analysis clips.

Oh, you want, okay, whatever you want.

So that would be

DMC2.

As you've seen among some of your own Democratic base, though, there are those who say they want Democrats to be doing more.

I'll put to you the latest numbers from our PBS News NPR Maris poll that showed some 43% of Democrats, your own supporters, disapprove of the job that Democrats in Congress are doing right now.

So why is it that you think your base is so unhappy with how Democrats are leading right now?

Well, there's rightfully so.

There's a lot of anxiety out there with what they've seen from this administration so far is they're going down in a very aggressive manner to dismantle this country.

What we've seen is they.

And if I may, to be clear, this is a disapproval of Democrats in Congress, not about the Trump administration.

I understand that, but people are concerned of what they're seeing right now in this country.

And what they want is they are anxious, they're nervous.

This is unprecedented.

We've never seen anything like this.

And at the end of the day, that anxiety, of course, requires everyone to do their part.

They want to see not just Democrats in Congress, but Democrats throughout this country, country, and whether you're in political party leadership, whether you're a local elected official, they want Democrats to do their part to resist this authoritarian regime and what they're doing to dismantle this country.

So I understand where that anxiety comes from.

But let me tell you what the Democratic Party has been doing.

We've already hosted over 130 town halls throughout the country to hold Republicans accountable to their disastrous policies.

that they've been pushing from the beginning with this administration.

Not just to hold them accountable, but to make sure that we're helping to amplify the stories of all the pain and anguish that's been inflicted upon the American people since Donald Trump was inaugurated.

Oh, so pain inflicted is horrible, it's bad.

Anguish.

Anguish.

Anguish.

Is this guy in the real world?

I mean, is this guy ever talking about leaving the house?

I mean, what is Minnesota must be really screwed up?

Yeah, I would say that's probably true.

I just found a guy to be, he's not even discussing reality.

Surprised?

A Democrat.

Democrat on PBS?

No reality?

Hmm.

But, Ken, a lot of the frustration, even at those town halls, as you mentioned, that we've seen has been from Democrats who want to see Democrats do more than just message and hold conversational spaces.

They want to see you doing the kinds of things that Corey Booker did with a record floor speech or Hakeem Jeffries did or Senator Padilla.

Nobody wants to see see that nonsense.

And then she also backs it up with Padilla's stunt.

And confronting the DHS secretary, they want to see you get caught trying.

Yeah, get caught trying, so to speak.

Why not do more of that?

Do more of that, please?

We need more video.

We need hours and hours of you doing stuff.

We are doing that.

And you just mentioned people who are doing it, right?

And folks are doing it all over the country.

I think the sense is it's not enough of that.

And that's where the frustration comes from.

Is that fair?

I don't think that's accurate, though.

Look, I I think initially when Donald Trump was inaugurated, I do believe the party

and many of our elected officials were caught flat-footed.

But you haven't seen that in recent months.

You've seen elected officials, you just mentioned it, from Corey Booker to Hakeem Jeffries, to our Democratic attorney generals who are leading the way on filing litigation after litigation to take on this authoritarian regime, to our governors and local elected officials who are using the power of their offices to actually protect vulnerable communities and communities being targeted by this administration.

And to our members of Congress who realize that they may not have power in Congress right now, but they have the power of their voices and their platforms to really get out there and speak loudly about what's happening.

And that's what's been happening for weeks and months now.

And so I get where the anxiety comes from, but it's just not accurate or true that the Democratic Party and our elected officials aren't doing enough.

I would recommend a new tactic for the Democrat Party.

I think they should say the Republicans in the House and the the Senate are afraid to vote anything but what President Trump wants because he's got the Epstein tapes of them.

That's what they should say.

That's not going to work.

What they should do is...

Well, anything would be better than this.

This guy's no good.

It makes you think that maybe David Hogg

is a winner, who they kicked out of the fucking operation.

I didn't mean to do that.

That was not a good use of the.

That was uncalled.

But they kicked him out of the operation because he was causing a fuss by saying something a little different.

This guy's no good.

Yeah, David Hogg.

He was also on the Epstein tapes.

Everyone that we don't like now is on the Epstein tapes.

David Hogg.

Yeah, can you imagine?

Yeah, this is it.

David Hogg on the Epstein tapes.

Well, if he was on the tapes, he was one of the people that was being trafficked.

Oh, goodness.

All right.

Which one do we play now?

I've got four.

We have two kickers.

What do you want to?

I'm calling five minutes.

We had two kickers.

We've got to go.

Come on.

What are we for?

What do you take away from Zoran Mamzani's New York City mayoral Democratic primary win?

Are there lessons there for the party or the races?

Well, first, it was a brilliant campaign, and there's a lot of lessons.

One is he campaigned for something.

And this is a critical piece.

We can't just be in a perpetual state of resisting Donald Trump.

Of course, we have to resist Donald Trump.

There's no doubt about it for all the reasons we just talked about.

But we also have to give people a sense of what we're for, what the Democratic Party is fighting for, and what we would do if they put us back in power.

And that's really critical.

And I think that's one of the lessons from Mamdani's campaign is that he focused on affordability.

He focused on a message that was resonant with voters, and he campaigned for something, not against

other people or against other things.

He campaigned on a vision of how he was going to make New York City a better place to live.

I think that's one of the lessons.

The other lessons, of course, is the tactics he used to get his message out.

Both a very aggressive,

in-person campaigning, meeting voters where they're at, and then also in those digital spaces, using very creative messaging to cut through the noise and to get to voters in an inexpensive but authentic way.

There's a lot to learn from that campaign, and I'm excited to learn more.

But resist, we much,

we must, and we will much

about

that be committed.

So we had dinner last night with the New York Zoomer.

We're here for Tina's birthday.

It's tomorrow.

And so we said, I say, how about Mom Donnie Fever?

She says, oh, yeah, everybody loves him.

I said,

do tell.

Oh, everyone loves him.

We know that he's only going to do 25%,

but we don't want that stupid clubber, Mayor Adams, or

Cuomo.

Yeah.

So

that is why they all voted for him.

Like anything.

They don't believe 75% of what

Mamdani is saying, but it was better than no one likes Eric Adams because he was ineffective.

We lose our guy, the voice of Eric Adams, who we haven't heard much about.

No, we've already lost him.

We lost him to

measles, I think.

He's gone.

Measles.

So now we have two kickers.

Yes.

Let's play him.

What about concerns from some of your Jewish colleagues in particular about him not outright condemning the phrase globalize the intifada in a recent interview?

Some of your Jewish colleagues have said that that could be very disturbing, potentially dangerous.

Do you agree with that?

You know, there's no candidate in this party that I agree 100% of the time with, to be honest with you.

There's things that I don't agree with Mamdani that he said.

But at the end of the day, I always believe as a Democratic Party chair in Minnesota for the last 14 years and now the chair of the DNC that you win through addition.

You win by bringing people into your coalition.

Well, this is a good question.

You wait, wait.

You win by addition.

So let's bring in the Jew haters

into the party.

We welcome you.

I don't understand something.

If Mossad controls everything and everybody,

how can this guy be a frontrunner?

Don't they have the goods on him?

Don't they have Epstein stuff?

Well, that's all beside the point.

You're kind of frontline.

The point I was making with you, I got you, of course, where I cut it off is because we welcome everybody.

Except except exception, you hate the Jews, eh?

Come on in.

He doesn't.

He was very, he actually had a good answer.

He said, no, I'm not going to travel to Israel.

I'm going to stay in New York.

He had a good answer.

Who, Mondami?

Yes.

No, I'm talking about this guy.

I don't care about this guy.

This guy is a nutjo.

So here's kicker number two.

We have conservative Democrats, we have centrist Democrats, we have labor progressives like me, and we have this new brand of Democrat, which is the leftists.

And we win by bringing people into that coalition.

And at the end of the day, wait, this is the Democrat big tent.

This is amazing.

They've taken a Republican talking point.

Dude, we got a big tent.

Come on in.

Yeah, big tent communists.

Commies.

And at the end of the day, for me, that's the type of party we're going to lead.

We are a big tent party.

Yes, it leads to dissent and debate, and there's differences of opinions on a whole host of issues.

But we should celebrate that as a party and recognize at the end of the day, we're better because of it.

That is the chair of the Democratic National Committee, Ken Martin, joining us tonight.

Ken, thank you so much for your time.

Good to speak with you.

Thank you, Amno.

Thank you.

All right.

So they're doomed.

Big tent.

I don't know, man, because, you know, MAGA's falling apart.

They're all going to vote Democrat.

It's over.

It'll be.

They're going to vote for Elon's party.

Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courtesy in the morning to you.

The man who put the C's in the social contagion.

Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only mister, John C.

DeMora.

Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr.

Adam Curry.

In the morning, all the ships of sea boots in the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and nights out there.

In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.

Let me count you.

All right, 1907.

1907.

This is the count of the trolls for today, 1907.

What's up, 100?

Yeah, well, everyone wanted to know.

What did the boys think of this?

What do they think of this?

What's going on?

Trolls are in the troll room, trollroom.io.

You can listen live or use one of those modern podcast apps, podcastapps.com.

That's apps plural.

You'll see a whole bunch of them there.

Look for the live feature.

Which means you will get a notification.

By the way, I got to tell you something exciting.

Live notification.

It's a a podcasting 2.0 feature of Pod Ping.

So you can listen to the live shows right there and you have more and more doing it.

People are searching for authenticity.

So they're moving towards live shows that are live to tape, as it were,

because everyone's sick and tired of pre-canned, all the ums, you know, the stuff is cut out of it.

Oh, all the pregnant pauses.

Got to chop that out.

I want to use AI to fix everything.

Make it sound so sleek and professional.

And make it sound dead.

That's the opposite of what podcasting is about.

And of course, you'll you'll be notified within 90 seconds of our shows being published that they are actually published.

So I told you about the funding tag where you can now have, and the apps are starting to add this, where you have a button right there in the app on the show.

You hit the button, it takes you right to the donation page.

Or the way we're going to do it is it takes you right to Stripe so you can pay with Apple Pay or Google Pay or anything and stuff like that.

Have I told you about this feature?

Yeah, you talked about it last show.

Yeah.

So guess what?

NPR is now implementing that.

So now that NPR is doing it, now everybody's waking up.

Oh,

you watch.

Apple's going to have this.

It's going to be the value for value button is coming to podcast apps everywhere.

It only took five years, which is good.

That means my success ratio is now 50% shorter than it used to be.

Well, eventually it'll be right there.

I'll be on the money.

I'll be rich.

I'll be so rich.

I'll be leave my wife rich, stocks and bonds rich.

Until then, we'll just stay value for value.

And we will thank everybody who supports the show with time, talent, and treasure.

We always want to thank our artists who are great AI prompters.

Although

it was very interesting to see an old name return to episode 1779, which we titled Buffy Gorilla.

And I'm sure she got some a kick out of that, Buffy.

Oh, Buffy.

Oh, Buffy Gorilla.

Nick the Rat returned to the album art with a nice social contagion June bug.

And this was very interesting to us because Nick the Rat, who I think is still number one on the leaderboard of all time, of course.

Yeah, with 191 wins.

And it looks like Nick has given in.

He has given in to the AI.

Of course he has.

But see, the thing is, Nick has good ideas.

That's what makes it.

it's not the just you can't just

make something with ai it'll be great no you have to have a good idea you need the creativity you can't just say hey chat gpt make some cool art for no agenda no it's not going to work it will you will fail and uh we liked it and lots of people liked it even animated it on uh on x did you see the animated versions of it no yeah it was like Grock, animate this image.

All of a sudden, the June bugs flying around her head.

That's pretty cool.

So that was nice.

Good to have you back, Nick the Rat.

I'm in your hometown.

I should come visit the sewer.

Let's see what else we need.

Nick the Rat should come by.

Yeah, he should, but I'm too busy.

My dance card is full.

It's very full right now.

Your dance card is your dance card?

Yeah, my dance card is full.

We got no time for anybody.

We got Tina's birthday tomorrow.

Then we're out.

I'm not staying here too long.

Oh, you got to give us a

boots on the ground report.

I'll give it to you tomorrow.

We had a travel favor all the way, I will say.

Tomorrow is just no show tomorrow.

No, but what I'm saying is that's the only next show.

The only time I'm really going to be in the city is tomorrow.

And then Saturday we leave.

Came in last night doing the show, not taking a show off, setting it up in the hotel room.

You know how that is.

No, I'm sorry, you wouldn't.

It's been, I don't know.

I've done it.

I've done shows.

I've done shows in Vegas.

I've done shows in Brazil.

How long ago was that?

It doesn't matter.

Oh, okay.

It's been a while.

Yeah, because it's a pain in the ass.

Because you don't go anywhere.

I try not to.

Yeah, that's why I told you.

After COVID.

Let's take a look at some of the other art.

There was a lot of gorilla art, which

didn't really work for us.

No.

I don't think.

Was there anything?

The Ozzy.

The Ozzy thing was kind of cute from by Scaramanga.

Ozzy trying to shoot a chicken

out of the slingshot.

But I don't know.

There was something about the June bug that we just liked.

It was good.

Well, a couple of things.

One, it was in monochrome.

Yes, which that was changes the dynamic.

Changes.

Changes dynamic.

Now, we don't want a bunch of monochrome stuff all of a sudden.

It just so happens.

This worked.

There were

a lot of Texas drowning,

Texas water.

Yeah, no.

Yeah, that's not happening.

A little too soon, don't you think?

And the gorillas are no no good.

No.

No.

No, they really weren't any good.

Prop bets.

No, this was it.

This was it.

It wasn't really a lot of competition with this piece.

No, but Nick, Nick Nailed, it's good to have him back, and we appreciate that.

No agenda argues.

He'll either start to produce a bunch of this junk,

AI junk,

or he will just take it.

Another one, I'll just go back to doing what I was doing.

That was 192.

I'm good to go.

It's like a roundy.

Did he win a couple and he disappeared off the face of the earth?

He got a job.

He's like, ah, screw you guys.

Okay, so that is the time and talent portion, noagendaartgenerator.com.

Everybody can participate.

And I will say in advance that we have non-AI end-of-show mixes.

Unlike the artists who just folded, the mixers are like, no, no, no, we're not having this.

We're going to fight the AI.

And there's some good AI that was submitted, by the way.

There was some pretty good AI.

Nico Syme submitted something that you were all

the Dutch master, isn't he?

Nico Syme?

I think he's from Holland.

Well, but we don't have Dutch music masters.

Why not?

Well, the only name one band out of Holland.

The Holland Five.

No.

The Holland Tunnel.

You could have said Golden Earring.

You could have said Shocking Tunnel.

I don't know these bands.

I'm not like you.

I'm not a band discographer.

You've never heard of Golden Earring?

I've heard of Golden Earring, but I didn't know where they were from.

Holland Tunnel was a good joke.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Boomer.

Let us go to the treasure portion.

This is how it works.

We thank everybody $50 and above.

And if you hit us up with $200 or above for this particular episode, we give you a bonus.

We give you an associate executive producer credit, which is useful and recognized everywhere that Hollywood credits work, including imdb.com.

And we will read your note gladly.

$300 and above, you become an executive producer.

It's just like Hollywood, basically.

And we will read your note, and you get that executive producer credit.

And we start with

Yair Moore.

Yair Moore is from DN East Binyamin, Illinois.

That sounds fake.

What is that?

IL is the country code.

He's in Israel.

Oh, he's in Israel.

Oh, it's Jew money.

There you go.

So he's in East Binyamin.

Oh, thank you.

Yair Moore.

And he says, in the morning, gents, July 12th is my 40th birthday.

Wait a minute.

Do we have him on the list?

It's not color-coded properly.

Is he on the list?

Have you checked if he is on the list?

Let me see.

Yeah, he's on the list.

Okay, he's on the list.

Good.

I'm chipping in with some more shekels for the show, a.k.a.

Jew money.

More than usual to get myself a special midlife crisis present.

The title, Sir Yes, pronounced Sir Yes.

Oh, sir, yes, sir.

Yes, I got it.

Night of the No Agenda Show.

In case Jay wants to verify, he sent this accounting along, along with a triple karma for finding a new house, for finding my own keeper, for succeeding in my exit strategy and online video.

I wouldn't call it podcasting because I love you, Adam.

No homo.

I mean, I am homo, but not towards you.

Whoa, this little TMI.

With my aptly name show, more about M-O-H-R.

More about.

Thank you for your courage.

Sorry for the long note, John.

Again, it's pronounced Yair Moore, and he wants a rare triple karma.

Well, we'll give him two with a goat.

You've got karma.

That'll count for three.

You've got

karma.

Good old Greg the Welder in Pottstown, Pennsylvania, 33780.

In the morning, fellas.

I hate to bring this up, but I noticed you guys forgot my house buying karma for my

last donation.

Sorry, totally Adam's fault.

Yeah, my fault, totally.

Partially my fault for distracting you with my public land rant.

Oh, there you go.

I usually wouldn't make a fuss, but my wife and I could use some help finding out or finding our forever home.

A little house-selling karma wouldn't hurt either.

Again, thanks, guys.

All right, here it comes.

House-selling karma for you.

You've got karma.

Sir

Pantangelini.

Pantangelini in Lamberg, PA has a switcheroo for Renegade.

All right.

Let me make that switcheroo right away so we don't mess that one up.

Renegade.

And he says, I'd like to offer an apology for everyone at NA.S.

for constantly being wrong about Israel.

They can't help themselves.

It is real.

They all still listen.

Yeah, of course.

Many start with an answer and work their way to justify the answer.

I appreciate that neither of you do this.

Either way, oh, this is so is we're getting like the shekel money here today, John.

It's all coming in.

It's proof.

You gripe and gripe, and this is what it is.

Finally, it happens.

That's right.

By the way, this is 233.69, associate executive producer.

Either way, it's been suggested that you both are high on the Epstein list,

which is why it hasn't been released, and you you are both shills for Mossad,

which is why also neither of you

talk about the Ben-Gurion Canal from Gaza to the Gulf of Aqaba.

I think we have, actually.

And why Trump wants a hotel at the mouth of the canal, and his BFF in Saudi Arabia will have his NEOM line project on the other side.

By the way, it's warp speed cancer, not turbo cancer.

Ooh, there's a good one.

Please fix your turbo.

That is a good one.

That is a good one.

I I think we'll have to do that.

P.S.

The moon will remain flat until morale improves.

All right.

Here's your camera.

Here's your karma.

Thank you.

You've got karma.

We have talked about the canal.

They're going to blow that up with dynamite to make that canal.

Remember that?

That's something to do.

Yep.

Washtech?

Weapon.

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Oh, that's interesting.

That's nice.

Hey, there he is, Eli the coffee guy.

I'm missing his coffee today, 207.10.

That is once again,

he's doing the numbers with the dates.

It's 7.10, Bensonville, Illinois.

He says, after a week fishing in the Northwoods with no internet or cell service, I've been missing the media deconstruction.

I emerged from the wilderness to discover Jeffrey Epstein did kill himself after all.

Can I get a...

That's what happens, man.

You leave, and then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, stuff starts to happen.

He says, Can I get a what's that in your mouth jingle for all those involved in the cover-up?

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Stay caffeinated, says Eli, the coffee guy.

What's that in your mouth?

Munger.

No, Sir Weegee.

Oh, I'm sorry.

No, I got

Sir Weeji the famous.

Sir Weeji the Famous in Cold Spring, New York, 205.

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Oh, it's the both.

B-O-T-H is the salt and pepper, guys.

Oh, the both.

Oh, yes, right.

Which is a nice product.

It's an interesting product for sure.

Yeah, I use it actually.

Yeah, of course.

I gave away the salt, mostly salt, and kept them mostly pepper.

Your support and positive feedback for both has been overwhelming.

Overwhelming.

Overwhelming.

Both is the salt and pepper mix with the two options.

One with more salt and less pepper, the other with more pepper and less salt.

I don't know what pepper he's using, but it's a very

peppery.

But you know what's interesting about this product.

So this is supposedly so you don't have to have separate salt and pepper shakers.

But now you still have two because some people want more salt, less pepper, some want more pepper, less salt.

So, you still have two.

I mean, it's not really a saving.

Well, what I find interesting about the one, especially with more pepper, is that when you're salting something, it's just like you can't see it.

But when you put when it's the salt and pepper, you can see how much you're using.

This is like tear gas.

A lot of the smoke comes out.

That's not the gas.

That's just to show the cops where the wind's blowing, and it's going to come back at them or not.

Right.

So it's a very interesting product from that regard.

Anyway, through extensive flavor, he continues.

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Yes, okay.

Sir Weeji the Famous.

Nice.

Okay.

That's an ad.

Monger is in Wyckoff, Minnesota, 202.02.

And he says, switcheroo for Zachary Fighead Schendel

in Minneapolis.

Okay.

And he says, from Monger in Wyckoff.

And what he would like is I Got Ants.

Well, we're not going to play the full song, but we'll happily play a little bit of the I Got Ants with the switcheroo for Zachary Fighead Schendel in Minneapolis.

I got ants.

I got ants.

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Yeah, we always cut it off with the karma.

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My formula is this:

We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

You know,

speaking of shut up slave, this made me, uh, this made me chuckle.

This made me chuckle.

This, uh, I'm sure you heard this report.

Tonight, a big change at American airports.

The TSA is saying effective immediately, all passengers, not just those with pre-check, will be able to keep their shoes on through security, something we haven't seen in nearly 20 years after that attempted shoe bombing and in the wake of 9-11.

We anticipate that Americans and travelers and those coming into our country will be very excited that they will no longer have to remove their shoes.

The so-called shoe bomber Richard Reed tried to blow up a flight from Paris to Miami in 2001.

The explosives packed in his shoes failed to detonate and Reed was tackled by passengers and crew.

Regina put that up here.

Since then, the TSA has added multiple layers of security, including data on millions of Americans.

Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noam insists flights will be just as secure.

Since that policy was put in place, our security technology has changed dramatically.

It's evolved.

Yeah.

Without our approval, you have just added facial recognition and it's here to stay.

They just slipped that in.

Everybody went, okay, I'm used to it with my iPhone.

It's fine, whatever.

Little sign says we delete it after 24 hours.

Yeah, sure you do.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, like remember when they had the x-ray machines and they had the naked women go through and they said they kept it leaning.

And then there's, it turns out there was an underground people trading pictures of course of course.

Of naked women.

Of course.

And that's what they did.

I mean, since it's 20 years ago, we got the naked body scanners, we got the back scatter scanners, and now we have the analogic.

It still kills me.

Those big

carry-on scanners that look like a jet engine.

You probably haven't seen one.

Yeah, I've seen them.

They've been around forever.

Yeah.

Although I will say that, you know, we have pre-check, so I'm completely in the system.

And

the whole

rig,

two cases, one filled with wires and plugs and all kinds of stuff, the podcast rig, and then my sling camera bag that has microphones in it.

It goes through no problem.

So

I guess it's true.

Curry's not a problem.

He's not a terrorist.

He's good.

Used to be.

Used to be a big one.

Used to be a big problem.

So that I think is very sad.

Oh, we're so excited.

And of course, if you wear it.

That is sad too.

I liked it back in the days when you got pulled over his side and kept waiting for hours on end every time you traveled.

I thought that was the good old days.

Those were the good old days.

All right.

Two clips for me about BRICS.

Of course, this is what most of the fighting really has been about, is about pushing back Brazil, India, Russia, China, South Africa, and added to that possibly Saudi Arabia, Egypt.

I mean, there's just tons of countries that have poured into this BRICS thing.

And President Trump made a statement about what this was really about and why he's not having it.

BRICS was set up to degenerate our dollar and take our dollar as the standard, take it off as the standard.

And that's okay if they want to play that game.

When he says the standard, I think he means the reserve currency of the world, but he forgot what that was, so he's just saying he's not going to be able to do it.

Well, he also said the word degenerate.

Like defrag.

I don't know what's going on.

And that's okay if they want to play that game, but I can play that game too.

So anybody that's in BRICS is getting a 10% charge.

Is that immediate, sir?

Or

if they engage in some people.

Pretty soon.

Well, if they're a member of BRICS, they're going to have to pay 10% tariff just for that one thing.

And they won't be a member alone.

I thought BRICS was, you know, I said this about a year ago, and it largely broke up.

But, you know, there are a couple that hang around.

But I thought it largely broke up.

BRICS is not, in my opinion, not a serious threat.

But what they're trying to do is destroy the dollar so that another country can take over and be the standard.

And we're not going to lose the standard.

At any time.

If you have a smart president, you will never lose the standard.

If you have a stupid president, like the last one, you you would lose the standard.

You wouldn't have the dollar.

I don't want to lose the standard.

And if we lost the

world standard dollar,

that would be like losing a war, a major world war.

We would not be the same country any longer.

We're not going to let that happen.

The dollar, you ever hear the expression, dollar is king?

The dollar is king.

We're going to keep it that way, okay?

And I'm just saying, if people want to challenge it, they can, but they're going to have to pay a big price.

And I don't think any of them are willing to pay that price.

So I checked in on the BRICS to see how they were doing, to see if they are still a threat to the dollar, to degenerate the dollar as the world standard.

And they just had a meeting.

Did you know they just had a meeting?

The BRICS?

Yeah, isn't this the meeting that Putin didn't show up for?

Yeah, that he sent Lavrov instead.

And these guys,

they're like begging for money from the IMF.

What kind of BRICS is that?

More demands for change.

BRICS countries called for reforms of the International Monetary Fund during their annual summit in Rio de Janeiro on Monday.

The bloc notably wants a reform of IMF quotas, which the IMF uses to determine how much money member states can contribute, but also how much they can get in loans.

Through the vision for IMF reform, we will engage more countries in the 17th general review of IMF quotas.

Brazil supports an inclusive quota realignment process with a simple, balanced, and transparent calculation formula.

But global finance was not the only concern for the group.

Brazil's President also called for fairer governance of artificial intelligence technology.

By adopting the Declaration on Artificial Intelligence Governance, BRICS is sending a clear and unequivocal message.

New technologies must operate within a fair, inclusive, and equitable governance framework.

The development of artificial intelligence cannot become a privilege of a few countries.

You know, I think that's the world's worst clip.

Well, that's the only one.

She's mumbling in the background.

She's whispering into the mic.

Where did this come from?

Africa news, unfortunately.

Well, I've got African news too, but it wasn't poorly.

That was terrible.

Well, I'm so sorry.

That's all I can.

Well, I mean, you can explain what she said because I couldn't hear her.

Okay.

She said that the BRICS were saying we need better terms from the IMF, which is, but

own that, sorry.

And then she said, and we need fair access to artificial intelligence.

Okay.

What?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's what they're complaining about.

So they're lost.

They got nothing if they don't have that.

And Lavrov,

he was like slouched in his chair.

He was like,

why am I here?

That's exactly right.

Why is he here?

Yeah.

So I think.

Well, that sounds like this is a disaster.

I would say that after China got the message, message, BRICS is whoops.

Whoops.

Okay, we're just going to hold back a little bit.

They'll try again in a few years, I'm sure.

But for now,

it wasn't going to work to begin with.

Well, they tried.

We should have spotted it as an epic fail.

Bricks.

There was African news.

Hold on.

African news.

Trump, Trump.

We had another big meeting with the Africans, and I realize that now he's going to keep doing these meetings until he can bring enough people in there to demand he gets a Nobel Peace Prize.

President Trump hosting leaders from several African nations at the White House, all of them praising Trump's efforts to end the war between Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, saying it was necessary to bring peace and open up trade talks.

And today's Washington correspondent, Jack Bradley, has the details.

There's great economic potential in Africa, like few other places.

President Trump hosts leaders from several African nations at the White House on Wednesday, all looking for U.S.

investment.

Trump says it's a change in strategy from previous administrations with a new focus on trade over aid.

And these are the leaders of Liberia, Senegal, Gabon, Maritania, and Guinea.

All claim to have an abundance of critical and rare earth minerals, a valuable element in making electronics.

You said you had the best equipment, the best military equipment, and that's what we'd like to have.

You are welcome to come and invest.

Otherwise, other countries might come instead of you.

We believe in your policy of making America great again.

Over the past few years, several African nations have partnered with the Chinese regime economically.

But in doing so, for these infrastructure projects that they've built, these countries have racked up billions in debt.

And now, Trump says that he's working on trade deals in the region.

You know, parts of Africa charge us tremendous tariffs, as you know.

And they're going to be dropping those tariffs.

They've already informed me they're going to be dropping those tariffs, but we treat Africa far better than China or anybody else, anyplace else.

The message is so clear.

We're tired of winning President Trump.

The funny thing is, is that it's possible.

The Chinese have not,

you know, they tried to be economic hitman, but they couldn't do the job right.

But they did, they...

They did get these guys in debt.

There's no doubt about that.

And Trump's giving him a way to get out of debt.

But the meantime, the Chinese have put put in the infrastructure, which is what we need, to get all the minerals and stuff out of the country.

Because if there's no infrastructure, you can't, you know, how you do anything.

And I think this is

the timing on this is genius by Trump.

Well, this is all West Coast, so that's shiplanes.

We're going to just rock the ships up to them.

We're going to take all that stuff, cobalt and all the good stuff.

Okay, part two.

Beautiful.

Last month, the foreign ministers of the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Rwanda signed a peace agreement in Washington, moving toward putting an end to a 30-year war with over 7 million deaths.

Trump said that the heads of those countries will soon meet in Washington to sign the final deal to end the war.

You said that this put an end to a long war that claimed many lives.

And thankfully, you were here to put an end to this 30-year war.

A Nobel Peace Prize, while I don't see any problem with it, I think that President Trump deserves it for all the efforts that he's worked on.

And he brought peace back in the SIAC region.

That is my region, the region where DRC and Rwanda signed a deal.

And so he is now bringing peace back into a region where that was never possible.

Now, this comes as President Trump announced a new round of tariffs on several countries on Wednesday.

Trump says that the numbers based on each country's relative trade practices on the U.S.

based on common sense, based on deficits, based on how we've been treated over the years.

Brazil, as an example, has been

not good to us, not good at all.

Brazil was hit with the highest at 50 percent.

That's as Trump claims Brazil's current president is treating the former president of Brazil, Bolsonaro, unfairly.

These tariffs take effect on August 1st.

Yeah, yeah.

And these are probably, were these also Chinese

annexes, these countries?

I think most of them are on the other coast.

But

the thing about this peace prize, Trump is in his craw because Obama got one before he even stepped foot in office.

That's right.

I forgot about that.

That's why he wants it.

Well, that would be a reason to not want it.

Like, I don't want that phony baloney peace prize.

Well, that's what he'll say if they ever give it to him.

No, he wants the prize.

I think they should award it to him, and he should say, no, not until you take away Obama's.

I don't think that's going to happen.

And he'll say, he wants it.

Look at this picture.

I got some video I want to show you.

Meanwhile, Russia, Ukraine,

I got three clips.

I want to get these out of the way.

Okay, well,

this has got to be it then, because we're running behind.

So you're putting screws to me.

Well, I'm letting you have the last clips.

Okay, well, let's go.

I guess there's three of them.

All right.

So we'll start with Russia-Ukraine one.

Ukrainian officials say Russia launched its largest barrage of the war so far, sending more than 700 drones overnight.

Buildings burned through the morning in the northwestern city of Lutsk, a critical hub where Ukraine receives foreign military aid.

Officials say 10 other regions were also struck.

The barrage comes a day after President Trump criticized Russian President Vladimir Putin's ongoing aggression and follows a U-turn by the Trump administration on sending more military aid to Ukraine.

Meanwhile,

in Rome, Ukrainian President Vlodymir Zelensky met with U.S.

Special Envoy for Ukraine Keith Kellogg and earlier visited Pope Leo, who again offered to host peace talks at the Vatican.

Moscow had previously rejected that invitation.

Yeah, well, you know what this is.

This is NATO versus BRICS.

Like, okay,

we got all the money.

We got everything in.

We can keep.

By the way, he hasn't sent any Patriots.

He sent over some shells.

Well, he's going to send some, he says.

Hey, he says.

I don't know about that.

Well, skip to this one.

They're going to drone attack

report.

This is Russia.

This is the NTD version of the report.

And they got some interesting facts on here that make me think this whole thing's a sham.

Hold on, this is a nine-minute clip, John.

Oh, geez, I mustn't let down clip.

Should I try the beginning?

See if that's it?

Yeah, see what happens.

Firefighters in Ukraine are battling flames caused by a massive Russian attack on Wednesday.

Russia reportedly again broke its own record for the largest drone attack on Ukraine since the start of the war.

Ukrainian officials say Wednesday's attack involved over 720 drones.

That's an increase of nearly 200 drones compared to the previous record.

The attack was mostly repelled, but was intense enough to cause neighboring Poland to begin scrambling its military aircraft.

No major damage or casualties have been reported.

Stop it.

That was the clip.

Okay, good.

Perfect.

750 drones, nobody got killed.

Well, that's kind of odd.

That seems like nobody got killed.

There's 750 drones all coming over, and nobody got killed.

There's nobody left.

Well, I mean, there may be that issue, but come on.

That sounds like a phony baloney deal, if you ask me.

Well, you heard him talk about Putin.

You have that clip?

Well, the clip that I have is the second part of the PBS clip, which maybe mentions that.

Separately, Europe's top human rights court found that Russia committed widespread violations of international law in Ukraine dating back more than a decade.

That includes its role in the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over separatist-controlled Ukraine in 2014.

298 people were killed in that crash.

The court also found Russia responsible in cases of murder, torture, and sexual violence against Ukrainian civilians, as well as the kidnappings of Ukrainian children.

The Kremlin brushed off the court's ruling, saying it has, quote, no intention to abide by it.

Oh, yeah.

No, I have the, although unfortunately, I only have the censored version because God forbid you say this word.

We're not happy with Putin.

I'm not happy with Putin.

I can tell you that much right now.

Because he's killing a lot of people.

And a lot of them are his soldiers.

His soldiers and their soldiers, mostly.

And it's now up to 7,000 a week.

And I'm not happy with Putin.

We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin for you want to know the truth.

It's very nice all the time, but it turns out to be meaningless.

Do you want to say something then?

Lindsey Graham has a sanctions bill on Russia.

Do you want him to move on?

I'm looking at it.

Yeah, no, I'm looking at it.

The Senate is passing and passed a very, very tough sanctions.

Yeah, I'm looking at it.

And you'd sign up?

It's an optional bill.

It's totally at my option.

They pass it totally at my option.

And to terminate, totally at my option.

And I'm looking at it very strongly.

He makes it sound like there's some special kind of bill that is his option.

There is a bill that's getting passed, and it's his option to sign it.

Through the Senate.

It's not in the House yet.

I mean, there's a little way.

I'm telling you, when I heard the 750 drones and nobody got injured.

It sounds a little weak.

This whole thing sounds like some sort of phony baloney deal.

I think it's going to be resolved after they have the ceasefire

in Hamas.

The Hamas ceasefire.

Yeah, I think you're right.

And it will be an armistice.

There will not be a truce or anything like that.

It'll be like North Korea.

You got to keep that in there to keep the NATO.

I like that idea.

Armistice.

That's what I would do.

With a a DMZ and demilitarized zone, which I've been saying for years.

And

did you?

And no NATO.

No, of course not.

Did you hear

the so-called leaked footage of the president saying, I told him I'm going to bomb Moscow.

I'll bomb everybody.

Did you hear that?

It's unusable for the show.

No, I did not.

Oh, oh, yeah.

Apparently, it's real.

He was out saying, I told him I'd bomb Moscow if he didn't quit it out.

Yeah, baby.

War.

What is it good for?

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Imagine all the people who could do that.

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

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Good.

Well, at least we got one Australian.

Yeah.

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Very good year.

Is that what happened?

Is that what happens?

Okay.

Well, that's one of the things.

Yeah, West Point was founded by, well, not founded, but I don't know who founded it, but George Washington used it as headquarters from 1799 to

1779 to 1800.

And Benedict Arnold got together with the guy who was running it, trying to turn over the plans to it to the British so they could take it over.

No, that's where Benedict Arnold comes from.

Yes, and Benedict Arnold got caught.

Bad guy.

He's a bad guy.

He's dead.

But he's a bad guy.

He's dead.

He's been dead.

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Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

Bomb, bum, bomb.

You to be where you won't be triggered or hell lame.

Unability feels the same.

Always like a party.

Always, always, always like a party.

I want to mention the Club Mallard meetup next Saturday.

I'll be there.

Albany, John's getting out of the house, everybody.

This is something to witness.

Go get your picture taken with him.

It's great.

It'll be a collectible one day.

Yeah.

Oh, absolutely.

ISO time.

I have my three.

I'm ready to roll them out before yours.

These are real ones, not AI generated.

Here we go.

Seriously, we need to release the F-Scene list.

Okay, that would be a good one for this particular show.

We have this one.

What was that?

Was that Glenn Beck?

No, that's J.D.

Vance.

That's your vice president.

Oh, that's from the.

Yeah, yeah.

Seriously.

We need to release the F-Scene list.

Might be a good one for this show.

We have this one.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

And I like this one, too.

So I'm always anti-boomer.

Always anti-boomer.

Yeah, I don't like the last one.

Okay.

Okay.

They're usable.

I have three.

Also, you got three on the show.

Start with unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

It's good AI just like Trump.

Muddy.

It's muddy.

Coasted.

Nobody coasted on that show.

Nice.

Nah, too over the top.

Again.

That was great.

Play it again.

I don't know, man.

I think that

seriously, we need to release the F-scene list.

I think that's okay.

You can have JD.

I think that's the one for today.

But we don't do any of that before we get to John's tip of the day.

Great master, you and me.

Just the tip with JCD

and sometimes Adam.

Created by Dana Bernetti.

I had a rare power outage the other day.

Oh, wow.

You don't have a Jenny.

No, I don't need one.

It's the first time in 20 years.

Oh, wow.

But I'm on the same circuit.

Hold on.

That's not true.

You had a power outage.

Yeah, but I'm talking about a real power.

I'm not talking about a momentary thing.

Oh, okay.

This

at night, like at nine o'clock, boom, power goes out.

It's pitch black.

Okay.

And which is rare because I'm on the same circuit as the police department, the fire department, and they give us priorities.

So it was somebody hit a pole or something.

So Mimi gets all freaked out.

So she got me a couple of items.

The next two items will be

power outage.

She got you blackout items.

Okay.

She got me some blackout items that are pretty cool.

And the one I, today's is the energy, it's called Energizer Lights.

And it's a, you can look it up on Amazon.

It's Energizer Lights.

It comes in a three-pack, and it's for power outages.

It's like a little flashlights that are plug in.

They plug into the wall socket and stay charged.

And then if the power goes out,

it triggers these things to turn on

so you know where they are because it lights up that little area because the power, it's a little flashlight that lights up.

You can pump so you won't stub your toe.

Yeah, exactly.

Believe me, I had to.

I had to wall hug to get to where I knew some flashlights were, and I found it to be distressing.

Wow.

What else did she get you?

This is great.

Well, the other ones I'll have on the next show, but this is the first one.

You know what we had?

Can I just say what we had in Holland growing up?

A Knipkot.

This is a Dutch product, Kneipkot,

K-N-I-J-P-K-A-T,

which means squeeze cat.

I don't know why.

And you squeeze it repetitively, kind of like a handbrake, and it lights up.

So it's a flashlight that you keep.

Well, I like that idea of a thing that charges like that.

But the problem is you still have to find it in the pitch black dark, you know, unless you carry it with you all the time.

That's why I like these lights, because they light up.

You need it on a lanyard around your neck at all times.

Yeah, you could.

Next to the three.

So you get three in a box.

And by the way, the Energizer lights are three for about, you get three in a box for about 20 bucks.

So right now they're on Amazon Prime sale.

So today's the last day if you want to get them cheap.

Um,

and it's handy.

The idea is solid.

I don't think it's going to be ever something I'm going to actually need,

but uh, if I'll have them at least, I won't have to fumble around.

I'm going to see if I can find the Knipecot on Amazon.

Yeah, find it, put it, post it.

You send me a link.

Yeah, it's Amazon Day, so it's probably cheap, too.

And that will conclude John C.

Dvorak's tip of the day.

Go to tipoftheday.net to see them all and collect them.

Read fast for you and me, just the tip with JCD.

And sometimes at all.

Created by Dana Bernetti.

I'm telling you, collect them all.

Collect all of John C.

Dvorak's tip of the day.

It's going to be dynamite.

All collectible at one point in time.

Okay, so we've got some real end of show mixes.

BW-12, Man vs.

Machine.

Sir Michael Anthony returns.

Professor Jay Jones and I.D.

Pop,

brand new to the end of show mixers.

They took it to to heart, man.

They don't want the AI ruining the show because that's what they say.

It's going to ruin the whole show.

And we have, if you want to stay tuned to Trollroom.io or on your modern podcast app, we got the just two good old boys coming up next.

That's Darren and Gene.

And they will be talking about the suppressor tax

redux.

Always about something with those two good old boys.

Always something.

Some firearm stuff.

It's beautiful.

And I will return with John on Sunday for another three hours plus of media deconstruction.

I'll be back home in Austin, Texas.

Until then,

remember us at NoAgendadonations.com.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm going to go comb my hair, I'm John C.

Dvorak.

We'll see you on Sunday.

Until then, adios, movos, a hooey-hooey, and such.

Mike check.

ITM, JCD, and AC.

V for V.

Well, I guess the gauntlet has been thrown down to the ground for end of show.

Man versus machine, we'll come out clean with such a sheen, but no ego.

We're shining with a righteous light.

No spook, but sparking up the night.

Cause I got sword, I got control.

And I can hold the microphone.

Hitting you with a little bit of hip-hop, funky drums with no delivery from TikTok.

Creative slaves escape the maze, and numbing haze of the algo.

Metallic bolts and mac and cheese.

I'm stacking sats through fountain streets.

Decentralized with open eyes.

I see the lies in their emote.

These laughs, I'm passing the mic to you for the next end of show song, man.

Pick it up.

Oh, the sound

of clowns.

It's a needy circuit.

Good thing we got this information.

Meatia assassination.

Are you still talking about Jeffrey then or sing?

Jeffrey then are single.

Jeffrey then are singed.

A lot of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information.

Sitting on my desk right now to review.

Don't trust anyone.

Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't trust anyone.

Me included.

How the hell do you lose evidence in a a case this big?

Bad guys, bad guys, sound that bad guys.

Are you still talking about Jeffrey that are sin?

Jeffrey that are sane.

Jeffrey never seen.

Bad guys.

Don't don't don't trust anyone.

Me, me, me included.

Are you still talking about Jeffrey that are sin?

Jeffrey that are sane.

Jeffrey never seen bad guys.

A lot of flight locks, a lot of names, a lot of information.

It's not there.

Well, the Trump administration is pushing back against calls to fire Attorney General Pam Bondi over her handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files.

Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

It's strange to me, too.

The accused sex trafficker did not keep a secret client list.

It was easy to sum it up.

Same ones here.

Same once again.

I can't.

Are people still talking about this guy?

This creep?

We're in here talking about practice.

It's sitting on my desk right now to review.

Listen, we're talking about practice.

I can't believe you're asking a question on that, Jeff Stanley.

What are we talking about?

Practice.

Bondi saying that is a technical glitch that happens every night.

I'm not supposed to leave wages now.

He is true.

Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

It's funny to meet you.

Earlier this year, she said she had Epstein's list in her office.

Not a game, not a game.

And I will spike down upon me with spring vengeance and furious anger.

It's strange to me, too.

So you guys ready?

I need to know that you're ready.

Um, this song's about war for a second.

I need to know that you're ready for war.

War.

What is it good for?

Nothing.

Say it again.

War.

What is it good for?

Nothing.

Why don't they go out?

No

hide.

Hey, we're gonna do a ceasefire.

You tell us to do it.

They've had enough, and they're ready for the war to end.

Enough.

War.

What is it good for?

Nothing.

Say it again.

War.

What is it good for?

Nothing.

Should've bring us down.

The media insights of the rest.

And to bring you down.

War.

We don't need to war.

I can't take it any longer.

War.

Yeah.

The best podcast in the universe.

Adios, Mofo.

Dvorak.org slash na.

Seriously, we need to release the F-scene list.