1771 - "Home Depotation"

Speaker 1 All right, this is the time of the year to plant.

Speaker 2 Adam Curry, John C.

Speaker 1 Dvorak.

Speaker 3 That's Sunday, June 8th, 2025.

Speaker 5 This is your award-winning Give Monation Media Assassination episode 1771.

Speaker 1 This is no agenda.

Speaker 3 Cutting through the crud and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas school country, right here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

Speaker 10 I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 11 And from northern Silicon Valley, where they've called out the National Guards, it's authoritarianism.

Speaker 1 I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackbot and Buzzkill.

Speaker 6 In the morning.

Speaker 12 Oh, man.

Speaker 13 It's on the quad. It's on the quad.

Speaker 14 Everybody's on the quad.

Speaker 8 Oh, no.

Speaker 17 Trump calls out the National Guard ask doing what people asked him to do.

Speaker 3 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

Speaker 19 We can't have it.

Speaker 20 It's authoritarianism.

Speaker 22 It is authoritarianism, man.

Speaker 25 And the National Guard is standing there like smoking cigarettes.

Speaker 8 They don't know what to do.

Speaker 1 They're all standing around. Nothing's going on.
They're all standing around.

Speaker 27 Everyone else is, they're riding.

Speaker 28 No, they burned

Speaker 30 their old panties and everyone's live streaming it on Instagram and TikTok.

Speaker 23 I have not seen anything really happen.

Speaker 1 Well, there's that car on fire.

Speaker 8 Oh, a car on fire.

Speaker 31 They do that when we win the ball game.

Speaker 3 It's true. Come on.

Speaker 1 Win a Super Bowl and they put more cars on fire. Yeah, don't park around the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Well, I have a couple of clips because the BBC thinks this is a big deal.

Speaker 34 Oh, yes.

Speaker 36 Well, the BBC would because it's going to happen in their town soon.

Speaker 39 And for real.

Speaker 1 But this is interesting. This clip is interesting because

Speaker 1 you know they want to turn it around and make it about Trump somehow being Hitler. Yes, of course.
And so

Speaker 1 they talk about the event. They have some woman standing there in the LA is in LA, by the way.

Speaker 1 For people out there who don't know where this is.

Speaker 43 And by the way, for people who don't know what the quad is, I have YouTube TV has a four-screen multi-view CNN, MSNBC, Fox, and BBC.

Speaker 46 That's the quad.

Speaker 1 Just like that. And so

Speaker 1 there's a woman who reports. She's got nothing to say.
So they bring on the, of course, the main

Speaker 1 BBC guy. So he's going to bring an analyst in to discuss this.
And here we go.

Speaker 48 Well, earlier, I spoke to Scott Lucas, professor of U.S. and international politics at University College Dublin's Clinton.

Speaker 1 He was a professor. He's in Ireland.

Speaker 52 And his specialty is Trump derangement syndrome, I'm presuming.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 55 Well National Guard is a long-established institution. It dates back to the 17th century when the U.S.
was a British colony. And that is, it was a local, effectively militia.
Now, as the U.S.

Speaker 55 developed as a country,

Speaker 55 you of course would eventually have the national military, but the National Guard would be overseen at state level. Now, they could be used in two cases.

Speaker 55 The federal government could request that the states deploy them,

Speaker 55 provide them, say, for example, at the start of the 21st century in Iraq, I mean Afghanistan. They can also be used in national emergencies, and I emphasize real national emergencies.

Speaker 55 For example, in 1992, as you mentioned, in the LA uprising, after the beating of Rodney King, they were called out when the city suffered more than $1 billion in damage.

Speaker 55 And they can be deployed when states refuse to observe

Speaker 6 the law.

Speaker 55 So the federal government in the 1950s under Dwight Eisenhower called out the National Guard to make sure that schools could be desegregated in Arkansas when Governor Falbus refused to do so.

Speaker 55 So in very specific

Speaker 55 situations where there is an imminent threat, the federal government can override the states and call out the National Guard.

Speaker 62 Hold on a second. He says two things here.

Speaker 60 Let me just get this right, and you've probably looked this up.

Speaker 67 So the president can call out the National Guard in a situation where the state is disregarding the law, and that could be a danger.

Speaker 72 And then at the end, he says, but you know, if it's just,

Speaker 37 if it's crazy, then he can call it the National Guard.

Speaker 75 And in this case, I presume legally, President Trump has called in the National Guard because

Speaker 12 the state of California is not cooperating with ICE to hand over criminals.

Speaker 73 So that sounds right.

Speaker 82 It sounds like the president is in his constitutional right.

Speaker 1 You're too logical. Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 84 I don't work for the BBC.

Speaker 8 That's the problem.

Speaker 1 So a couple of things he did say I want to point out because he's going to be forced to contradict himself.

Speaker 1 He says he makes the point of real. He says real national emergencies.
Right. And he uses the word national.
Real. That's what he said.
Yeah, it's real. Ronald King was not a national emergency.

Speaker 56 No.

Speaker 1 It was a local situation in L.A.

Speaker 1 But I suppose you could, you know,

Speaker 72 it was not a good time.

Speaker 87 It was not a party.

Speaker 1 The other one was Fawvis.

Speaker 1 There was a black kid. They wouldn't let him in the school, so they brought the National Guard and forced him to go in.
Or her, I think it was a woman.

Speaker 75 That was during Johnson?

Speaker 1 No, this is where this is Eisenhower. Oh, Eisenhower.

Speaker 88 I'm sorry.

Speaker 89 Yes, way before.

Speaker 1 And so that was hardly a national emergency, but whatever the case,

Speaker 1 he's going, he's kind of wandering here.

Speaker 1 He's not on the script because he should have already slammed Trump by now. So the BBC guy interrupts him.

Speaker 90 Prompts him, prompts him.

Speaker 51 Hey, you're not doing it right.

Speaker 1 Interrupts him and puts him back on track. And then we get to hear what they're really trying to tell us.
Here we go.

Speaker 48 What do you make of Donald Trump's decision to do it in this instance?

Speaker 55 It's unprecedented. It's unprecedented for the National Guard to be called out when you do not have that imminent threat.

Speaker 55 And I need to emphasize protesters gathered last night, as you mentioned, outside this detention center because people are just being swept up. Swept up.
Many of whom have no criminal records.

Speaker 55 And with a threat, they'll just simply be disappeared, deported without

Speaker 55 due process of law. There you go.
There were some people who were arrested when they failed to disperse, but there were a some total of two.

Speaker 55 Two people who were arrested for assaults on police officers, one with a Molotov cocktail.

Speaker 95 Do you think that in the literature this professor has studied that they speak of sweeping people up?

Speaker 77 Or is that just hyperbole from our professor?

Speaker 1 And he also used the word disappeared, which is a left-wing disappeared.

Speaker 33 Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 41 I'll take it back to that.

Speaker 93 Deported without

Speaker 55 due process of law. There were some people who were arrested when they failed to disperse, but there were a sum total of two.

Speaker 55 Two people who were arrested for assaults on police officers, one with a Molotov cocktail, allegedly. So there was no imminent threat here.
This needs to be called out what it is.

Speaker 55 It is a political stunt

Speaker 55 by the Trump administration, both as part of that crackdown on migration and also to try to expand its authority at the expense of the states in what would some see as being effectively authoritarian.

Speaker 62 Oh, there it is. Oh, very good.

Speaker 93 Authoritarian.

Speaker 27 Every single one of my British and European friends, you know what they say?

Speaker 1 Man, I wish. I can just imagine.

Speaker 30 Man, I wish we had a guy like that here.

Speaker 100 That's what they all say. That's what they all say.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's that element.

Speaker 1 That's the one that really actually cracks me up.

Speaker 32 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 37 They won't say it in their own country for fear of retribution.

Speaker 71 And,

Speaker 102 you know, this,

Speaker 103 all the news, all of it is all swept up, you know, disappeared.

Speaker 1 Disappeared as my favorite.

Speaker 104 These, these, this is not,

Speaker 62 this is, this is political speech. That's what that is.

Speaker 106 And

Speaker 67 it's kind of baffling.

Speaker 72 Well, no, not really, I guess.

Speaker 37 Yes,

Speaker 26 what am I thinking?

Speaker 23 It's not really baffling.

Speaker 107 Do you have more?

Speaker 108 I have Ice Barbie, who was on the CBS Face the Nation.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 where I want to head toward with starting with that is the

Speaker 1 going toward bringing back Albrego Garcia.

Speaker 79 Yes, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which I have clips for, but but Ice I think

Speaker 1 Ice Barbie.

Speaker 1 Well, Ice Barbie is

Speaker 1 I always mix her up with

Speaker 8 bondage.

Speaker 109 No, Ice Barbie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Ice Barbie is Gnome.

Speaker 110 Christy. Gnome.

Speaker 1 The dog killer. Gnome, like Gnome, Alaska.
She's cold.

Speaker 34 Yes,

Speaker 34 the dog killer.

Speaker 7 The dog killer.

Speaker 52 She has no heart, man.

Speaker 111 She's a dog killer.

Speaker 67 So thank you to the Jones Brothers Syndicate.

Speaker 30 Neil always does throughout the week, and Steve Steve has everything rolling in the morning, and that's why I was a little behind.

Speaker 75 I was late getting even the clean feed up for you because I was listening to the clips that were coming in.

Speaker 113 It's pretty cool to have it just before the show starts.

Speaker 87 So this is Margaret, your favorite, your gal, Margaret Brennan, with the ice barbie, Christina.

Speaker 116 Well, we are seeing from the President's proclamation that he can federalize, he says, 2,000 California National Guard forces for 60 days under Title 10 authorities. Which units are being deployed?

Speaker 116 Are they military, police, and exactly what are their orders?

Speaker 117 Yes, President Trump is putting the safety of the communities that are being impacted by these riots and by these protests that have turned violent.

Speaker 117 And he's putting the safety of our law enforcement officers first.

Speaker 117 So these 2,000 National Guard soldiers that are being engaged today are ones that are specifically trained for this type of crowd situation where they'll be with the public and be able to provide safety around buildings and to those that are engaged in peaceful protests and also to our law enforcement officers so they can continue their daily work.

Speaker 73 Okay, that sounds ominous.

Speaker 28 This is not good, but

Speaker 118 we've got to bring in the term federalizing, federalizing.

Speaker 120 It's like

Speaker 14 the federal government's taking over the states.

Speaker 116 So our CBS team is reporting that the California National Guard officers are at that Edward Roybal Center in L.A. This is a plaza with a federal building.

Speaker 116 Federal building rooms are there, a processing center, a detention detention center, a veterans clinic. Are the soldiers going to remain around the federal building?

Speaker 116 Are you planning to help them go throughout the city of Los Angeles?

Speaker 117 I won't speak specifically to all the locations where the National Guard soldiers will be deployed to or where they will be conducting different operations as far as security concerns. They're there

Speaker 117 at the direction of the president in order to keep peace and allow people to be able to protest, but also to keep law and order. That is incredibly important to the president.

Speaker 123 By the way, from what I can see, that's exactly what's happening.

Speaker 37 They're standing around.

Speaker 44 They're not in the line with their weapons drawn.

Speaker 30 They're just standing around.

Speaker 23 And everybody else is

Speaker 42 protesting reasonably peacefully.

Speaker 124 Okay. They're all live streaming.

Speaker 81 This is an influencer event.

Speaker 117 He recognizes he was elected to make sure that every single person in this country was treated exactly the same and that we would enforce enforce the laws.

Speaker 117 And that is what ICE is doing every day as they're out on our streets and working to go after bad criminals and people that have perpetuated violence on these communities.

Speaker 117 The gang members we have picked up in LA because of their hard work are horrible people. Assault, drug trafficking, human trafficking.

Speaker 117 They are now off of those streets and they are safer because these ICE operations are ongoing.

Speaker 117 Unfortunately, we've seen some violent protests happen and that's why these National Guard soldiers are being utilized to help with some security in some areas.

Speaker 24 All right.

Speaker 67 So now we're just going to get down to it is because the Los Angeles authorities will not cooperate with ICE.

Speaker 116 Well, the U.S. Attorney in LA told CBS that LAPD did help.

Speaker 3 LAPD does help. That's what is

Speaker 129 to me, Margaret, is hours later.

Speaker 117 They waited until we had officers in dangerous situations, then they responded.

Speaker 117 Now, if that was my city and I was the mayor, I would be sending law enforcement in there to back up other law enforcement officers.

Speaker 117 That's what America is about is that we have rules and we have laws. If you don't like the laws, go to Congress and change them.
Someone should go to Congress and say, change the laws.

Speaker 117 If we don't like what's happening in this country, do that instead of throwing rocks and throwing Molotov cocktails and instead of attacking law enforcement officers. I'm just not going to.

Speaker 117 Anymore. This president cares deeply about family members that want to live in their communities and be safe.

Speaker 116 Back to the question, though, of active duty troops, different from the National Guard. What is your personal counsel here to the President?

Speaker 116 Because it's you, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Defense. We're going to have a lot of responsibility here in implementing some of this call to do this.

Speaker 117 Well, let me be clear about something. ICE and Homeland Security are running these operations right now.

Speaker 117 And the advice and counsel of the Attorney General of the Department of Defense are extremely important to the President of the United States.

Speaker 117 And we never discuss our personal conversations and advice to the President of the United States. He makes the decisions.

Speaker 117 He is the president that sits in that seat, and we are all very proud to work for him. So I'm grateful for the

Speaker 117 leadership of Pete Hegseth and Advan Bondi, and I get the chance to work with them. And as someone does their job today, we're thankful to have the partnership and the leadership of President Trump.

Speaker 16 Oh, Ice Barbara, you're so boring.

Speaker 135 The only thing that really I think is interesting about this is the masks.

Speaker 41 And this is the last clip of this.

Speaker 1 Wait, before you play the next clip, what is Brennan trying to do here? Did you notice that she tried to pull in the active duty

Speaker 8 military?

Speaker 1 Because they keep trying to stick Trump. And he's going to make the military, which is not the National Guard.

Speaker 1 I mean, the National Guard is the military, but it's a different branch altogether, even though it's

Speaker 47 trying to make it scary, like he's turning the military on his own people, like we said he would.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. But it's interesting how she slipped it in and

Speaker 2 the

Speaker 1 gnome slipped past it. She should have addressed it and shoot her out for it, which is, I think, Bands would have done.

Speaker 96 Yeah, well, Ice Barbie is cute, but she's not, she doesn't, she's not the best.

Speaker 137 I mean,

Speaker 139 she has kind of a stock way of talking.

Speaker 44 And then to say, oh, I'm excited to work with A.G.

Speaker 8 Barbie.

Speaker 1 She's not as good as the other ones in terms of being aggressive. What's going on? I mean, Rubio would have done it.

Speaker 35 Oh, yeah. No, they're better.
They're just better.

Speaker 129 It's okay.

Speaker 8 Ice Barbie is awesome in that role as Ice Barbie.

Speaker 79 Just put a

Speaker 69 black dog killer.

Speaker 8 All right, the masks.

Speaker 140 This is the part that I thought was interesting for a certain reason.

Speaker 116 President Trump said masks will not be allowed to be worn at protests. Who's going to enforce that and how? And how can you justify it when law enforcement officials have their faces covered?

Speaker 7 Go up to them and pull their masks down.

Speaker 117 You know, what I would say is that the law is going to be enforced and that what the laws are are in this country is what we are doing.

Speaker 117 And our ICE officers and our law enforcement officers out there that are in these situations where people have questioned why they have their faces covered.

Speaker 117 It's for the safety of those individuals or the work that they're doing as far as protecting their identity so they can continue to do investigative work.

Speaker 116 But are you tasking the National Guard soldiers with removing masks from protesters? I mean, are you trying to use them in that way?

Speaker 14 This is such an upside-down world.

Speaker 7 For four years, the left was saying, saying, wear a mask, wear a mask, wear a mask.

Speaker 13 And I was like, stop wearing your mask.

Speaker 117 National Guard soldiers are there to provide security for operations and to make sure that we have peaceful protests. So that's what their work is.

Speaker 117 And I won't get more specific on that just because we never do when it comes to law enforcement operations.

Speaker 117 We're doing the same standard procedures we always do and have for years in this country with our National Guard and with our

Speaker 117 law enforcement folks that are on the ground working with these communities.

Speaker 109 Now, this is interesting, this mask issue, because Hakeem Jeffries, who is the, what is his actual title?

Speaker 79 He's the

Speaker 77 leader of the Democrat Party in the House, but it has a name.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he would be the next speaker.

Speaker 95 Yeah,

Speaker 1 the guy,

Speaker 1 I don't have said this on the show, but he just seems, looks like

Speaker 1 he has, he looks slow-witted, sounds dumb. He's a dummy.

Speaker 12 Well, here he is talking about the ICE agents and the whole mask issue.

Speaker 144 Every single

Speaker 144 ICE agent

Speaker 144 who's engaged in this aggressive overreach and are trying to hide their identities from the American people will be unsuccessful in doing that. This is America.

Speaker 47 America.

Speaker 144 This is not the Soviet Union. We're not behind the Iron Curtain.

Speaker 144 This is not the 1930s.

Speaker 144 And every single one of them, no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes, will of course be identified. That, in fact, is the law.

Speaker 144 Oh.

Speaker 144 And

Speaker 144 we're going to make sure that the American people have the transparency necessary

Speaker 144 to hold people accountable

Speaker 144 when they're folks who cross the line here in America.

Speaker 73 That's what's going to happen.

Speaker 145 So he is basically threatening to dox the ICE agents to out them and let everyone know who they are so they can.

Speaker 39 And where they live and what their family looks like.

Speaker 1 Let's go back to January 26th of 2021.

Speaker 10 Hakeem Jeffries.

Speaker 147 Congressman Hakeem Jeffries of New York chair of the House Democratic Caucus. Great to have you on, Congressman.

Speaker 23 Just tell me what you know and what you're willing to say.

Speaker 149 Obviously, there's some security concerns here about the threats this individual directed at family members, yours, on January 6th.

Speaker 152 This is something that unfolded on January 6th directed at a family member of mine.

Speaker 151 This individual apparently had secured a phone number,

Speaker 152 secured an address,

Speaker 62 made it appear as though they were prepared to proceed violently either at the address of my family member and or my own home address.

Speaker 126 He didn't like it when it happened to him.

Speaker 69 So, no, Hakeem Jeffries.

Speaker 37 Don't do that.

Speaker 14 Just don't do that.

Speaker 74 So then we have

Speaker 26 a number of good gambits going on.

Speaker 135 You identified it in the newsletter, and that is the return of

Speaker 34 the Maryland husband,

Speaker 80 the father from Maryland,

Speaker 43 the poor guy who got shipped off to El Salvador.

Speaker 43 Oh, well,

Speaker 1 you got to get the

Speaker 1 correct usage done.

Speaker 41 Well, I'm sorry. Did I get it wrong?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he was

Speaker 1 accidentally shipped off or

Speaker 1 mistakenly shipped off.

Speaker 33 Swept off.

Speaker 143 Swept up. Swept up.

Speaker 1 I have a couple of clips that kind of

Speaker 1 developed this, but I want you to play what you're playing.

Speaker 102 No, no, no.

Speaker 52 I'm tossing to you.

Speaker 100 Back to you, Bob. Okay,

Speaker 34 let's start with the.

Speaker 1 We used to do this on the show. I stopped doing it, but I'm going to do it again, at least for this show.
This is the rundown. This is the complete.

Speaker 1 It's it's a two-minute clip.

Speaker 1 And you don't have to watch the news. I've said this before.
You just watch the rundown, and they give you everything you need to know about today's news. And this is from yesterday's ABC News.

Speaker 8 Tonight, several developing stories as we come on the air.

Speaker 149 Violent protests as ICE agents take migrants into custody. More than 40 million Americans on alert for severe storms.
And Coco Goff makes history at the French Open.

Speaker 149 First, the new clashes over ICE arrests. Protests erupting from California to New York as the Trump administration ramps up its immigration crackdown.

Speaker 149 And Kilmar Obrego Garcia, now back in the U.S., two months after he was mistakenly, mistakenly, mistakenly deported to El Salvador.

Speaker 149 The charges he's now facing stemming from this 2022 traffic stop, according to DHS, and why a top prosecutor abruptly resigned over the case.

Speaker 149 Dangerous weather impacting millions from the heartland to the east coast. Severe storms firing up with damaging winds and potential flash floods.
Texas and parts of Arkansas already hit hard.

Speaker 149 Our weather team timing it out. Coco's comeback.
Coco Goff becomes the first American woman in a decade to win the French Open. Just 21 years old.

Speaker 149 How she came roaring back to beat the top seed in three grueling sets.

Speaker 13 Grueling.

Speaker 149 Police say they've captured the alleged ringleader in a series of high-end burglaries that targets pro athletes. Authorities say hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of items stolen.

Speaker 46 How police say the suspect's car led to his arrest.

Speaker 149 Our ABC News exclusive, Martha Radditz, in Ukraine with President Zelensky. The Ukrainian leader telling Martha that Russia does not want to stop the war.

Speaker 149 The search for a former Army soldier wanted in the deaths of his three little girls. Considered dangerous and possibly armed.
Kids in Washington state telling people to lock their doors.

Speaker 149 Lock your doors. Urgent recall impacting more than a million eggs in multiple states, potentially linked to salmonella.

Speaker 149 Works for travelers, Why the FAA is cutting the number of daily flights

Speaker 8 to one of America's busiest airports?

Speaker 149 And the wildly popular Eagle Cam revealing a major development is Gizmo the Eaglet ready to take flight.

Speaker 8 We're all going to die. Yeah.

Speaker 21 I'm tired.

Speaker 126 I'm tired from just hearing that.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 50 It's pretty fatiguing.

Speaker 1 But mistakenly,

Speaker 120 this mistakenly,

Speaker 120 everybody's using it.

Speaker 109 Mistakenly. Yeah, mistakenly.

Speaker 64 It was a mistake.

Speaker 124 Wow. They are so.

Speaker 1 Nobody ever said it was a mistake except one guy in the administration. It was one of the lawyers and one of the

Speaker 39 federal lawyers says,

Speaker 146 yeah, I think we had a clip of that where he went, he said it, and it was like, oh, no, oh, no.

Speaker 22 Oh, I didn't mean to say that.

Speaker 1 Oops. And now everyone's picked it up.
So to go from there to the NPR report on the

Speaker 1 NPR, this ICE raids.

Speaker 70 This must be just full of gems.

Speaker 1 Well, it's pretty short, so it's not full of too many gems,

Speaker 1 but it's got the right kind of attitude. It's when we get to the NPR analysis, which are the Dems view.
But this play Ice Raids is Ice Raid SoCal.

Speaker 24 Ice Raid SoCal NPR.

Speaker 121 In Southern California, for a second straight day, there are major actions by federal law enforcement going after people in the country illegally.

Speaker 131 Steve Futterman has more.

Speaker 3 This is, you know,

Speaker 155 just clipping today,

Speaker 88 all of the terms that the news media is using.

Speaker 107 I mean, people who are.

Speaker 83 How about illegal immigrants?

Speaker 104 Anything but what you just said, NPR?

Speaker 121 Liberal law enforcement going after people in the country illegally.

Speaker 131 Steve Futterman has more.

Speaker 59 Agents moved in at another Home Depot. Some of their focus was on day laborers.

Speaker 50 Wow.

Speaker 94 That's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Speaker 159 Let's go to Home Depot, see if we can find any illegals.

Speaker 124 Oh, please.

Speaker 8 Wow. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's exactly the right analogy.

Speaker 1 Well, how much work are you going to put in today? I don't know. Let's just go to the home department.

Speaker 50 Let's go to Home Depot.

Speaker 35 Pick some guys up.

Speaker 72 Exactly. You know what it is?

Speaker 34 The Californians are pissed because these are the people who are rebuilding their homes, and they have to get cheap labor because the permits cost 50 grand.

Speaker 80 That's what's going on.

Speaker 1 You can get a permit. Do you know as

Speaker 1 I do? As I do.

Speaker 1 Thousands and thousands of homes burnt to the ground. The total number of permits, what is it? You know,

Speaker 25 yeah, I think it's like 70 or something.

Speaker 1 No, 55.

Speaker 26 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 162 Now, I actually have a clip somewhere of it.

Speaker 8 But yeah, no, exactly.

Speaker 124 It's a joke.

Speaker 16 And those 55 cost tens of thousands of dollars.

Speaker 27 So, yeah, you want to go get your labor at Home Depot.

Speaker 131 Steve Futterman has more.

Speaker 59 Agents moved in at another Home Depot. Some of their focus was on day laborers who often gather outside the store looking for work.
As word spread on social media of the raid, protesters showed up.

Speaker 59 There were some confrontations. Objects were thrown at a U.S.
Marshal's bus carrying some of those detained. Agents responded with flashbangs and tear gas.

Speaker 59 One of the protesters, Maya Malika, blames President Trump.

Speaker 127 What we're facing right now is Trump's armed Gestapo because this is the future. We're just seeing a glimpse of the future that Trump wants to implement.

Speaker 59 The acting director of ICE, Todd Lyons, is defending the actions here, claiming that some of the people arrested included dangerous criminals.

Speaker 145 That lady, she was on all the European reports.

Speaker 26 She is the, I think, director of the non-profit for immigrants' rights.

Speaker 108 So she was everywhere.

Speaker 30 And so I'm surprised that NPR didn't pick up someone else for that.

Speaker 22 But I guess she was the only one.

Speaker 32 Why bother?

Speaker 1 Why, you know,

Speaker 1 there's the easy way or the hard way. It's the easy way.

Speaker 65 Yeah.

Speaker 138 Did they talk to anyone at Home Depot?

Speaker 37 Any of the

Speaker 1 manic? They don't speak English. So no, they didn't talk to anyone.

Speaker 22 No, no, no you know lowe's doesn't allow that

Speaker 47 you know

Speaker 73 lowe's shoes them off no

Speaker 1 shoes them off go go get out go away yes no home depot we have one around here it's during the in the heyday era i think it was like a few number years back yeah that place was there was a

Speaker 1 thousand guys out there yeah yeah well that was that would find one guy you had to you could find if you wanted to get some work done you'd find one guy who spoke really good english and he could organize a crew for you.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 8 You could work.

Speaker 24 You sound like you speak from experience, Steve.

Speaker 8 I'm just saying this is possibly

Speaker 1 something you can always do if you need a cleanup or something.

Speaker 85 Okay. Cheap.

Speaker 1 On the cheap.

Speaker 80 You know, there are plenty of people here in Fredericksburg who are here, born here, who are happy to do it cheap.

Speaker 1 They clean up. Yeah, well, they won't come to California is my understanding.

Speaker 102 No, no, of course not. They don't want to live there.

Speaker 1 So NPR decides

Speaker 1 they're going to bring that bonehead from Connecticut, the guy who went to have a margarita with Abrego Garcia

Speaker 1 back on the show. That guy.

Speaker 8 That guy. Oh, it's perfect.

Speaker 64 He's the perfect guy. Fantastic.

Speaker 1 So he can come in and play his, oh, well, you know, all we care about is process. And all we, you know, this is what the Democrats are always accused of.
They're more into process than anything.

Speaker 1 And, you know, you got to follow the rules.

Speaker 39 And this is all we cared about.

Speaker 1 We don't know if he's guilty or not, doesn't matter, and blah, blah, blah. But here we go.
This is a four-parter. It's quite entertaining.

Speaker 167 Kilmar Obrego Garcia, who has been at the center of an intense political and legal fight since he was mistakenly, mistakenly, mistakenly, mistakenly deported to El Salvador in March, is back in the United States.

Speaker 167 For months, the Trump administration resisted a Supreme Court order to, quote, facilitate his return. Now, Abrego Garcia is back, but in a Tennessee prison.

Speaker 167 He's been charged with conspiracy to transport migrants in the U.S. without legal status from Texas across the country.
That's according to the federal indictment unsealed Friday.

Speaker 166 Senator Chris Van Holland played a leading role in the push to return Abrego Garcia to the U.S.

Speaker 167 The Democrat represents Maryland, where Abrego Garcia was living with his family before he was deported. Senator Van Holland joins us now.

Speaker 169 Scott, good to be with you.

Speaker 167 What is your reaction to this news? He's been returned to the U.S., but is in federal prison.

Speaker 112 This is a...

Speaker 26 Wow, did you hear that that was an interview that was done a whole different time, a whole different sound, a whole different timbre of voice?

Speaker 146 That was interesting.

Speaker 167 Where Arbrego Garcia was living with his family before he was deported. Senator Van Holland joins us now.

Speaker 169 Scott, good to be with you.

Speaker 167 What is your reaction to this news? He's been returned to the U.S., but is in federal prison.

Speaker 169 This is a victory for the rule of law and due process. As you just said, the Trump administration for months said he would never set foot on U.S.
soil again.

Speaker 169 They thumbed their nose at a 9-0 Supreme Court decision. I have repeatedly said that this is not about the man, Abrego Garcia.

Speaker 169 It's about his constitutional rights to due process, and that if you trample over his rights, you threaten the rights of everybody who lives in the United States.

Speaker 169 So finally, his case is back in court where it should have been all along.

Speaker 169 And he will have an opportunity with his lawyers, who he's not had any communication with, to defend himself against these new charges.

Speaker 115 I have a question.

Speaker 16 So far, this is the.

Speaker 1 And by the way, if you're chewing gum, everyone has to have gum. If you're chewing gum, you're chewing gum, Billy.
Give everybody a piece of the gum or get the gum out of your mouth.

Speaker 1 That's the Democrats.

Speaker 172 Is there anyone else that

Speaker 30 this guy from Connecticut or any other representative or senator has gone to bat for?

Speaker 108 That they were swept swept up and disappeared illegally?

Speaker 12 Is there any other example that we've heard of, or is it just the news media telling us that?

Speaker 1 I don't know of any other examples. They have talked about the gay hairdresser.

Speaker 1 But that kind of got pushed aside.

Speaker 16 No, because I don't think the gay hairdresser was true.

Speaker 35 If there truly was a gay hairdresser who got shipped off,

Speaker 18 the people would lose their ever-loving minds over it if it was really true.

Speaker 20 It would be perfect.

Speaker 80 Trump hates gays.

Speaker 37 So I'm just going to say it was never true.

Speaker 14 So it just, you know, that would be...

Speaker 3 Well, you might.

Speaker 33 You're probably taking away.

Speaker 16 They're taking away our rights.

Speaker 8 That's...

Speaker 1 Well, the reason what you just said, the question you're asking, the open-ended question you're asking, is not answerable because people are disappearing.

Speaker 95 Oh, yeah, but they have family members here.

Speaker 64 They've disappeared too.

Speaker 85 Oh, okay.

Speaker 177 Okay, I got it.

Speaker 1 Now, here's the one. This one I did a little, I had to look into this because I got sick of this.
ABC said the same thing as you're about to hear in clip two.

Speaker 178 Okay. Have you been able to talk to him or his legal team?

Speaker 169 I have not spoken to him directly. I have spoken to his wife, Jennifer.

Speaker 89 What was her response to all of this?

Speaker 169 Well, she's relieved to have him back on U.S.

Speaker 170 soil. Wait a minute.

Speaker 107 The wife who he beat is relieved to have him back on U.S.

Speaker 109 soil.

Speaker 50 That's bullcrap.

Speaker 22 Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 169 She's finally had a chance to talk to him briefly, which she she was unable to do since he was first taken off the streets in Maryland and shipped to El Salvador.

Speaker 169 And of course, you know, she's working with the lawyers as to the next steps.

Speaker 167 You said before this isn't about him. It's about the rule of law.
It's about the process.

Speaker 167 What is your response to this indictment and the details in the indictment, the allegations that he transported undocumented immigrants across the country illegally?

Speaker 169 Aaron Powell, Powell, Well, my response is what it's been all along, which is that the Trump administration needs to put up or shut up in court.

Speaker 169 So for months, they made allegations over social media, which they had not made before the federal district court judge in Maryland, Judge Zinnis. They'd made these claims.

Speaker 169 With respect to MS-13, she said that they had put forward no evidence.

Speaker 170 My point all along is this needs to be dealt with in a court of law.

Speaker 169 That's where we convict the guilty. It's also where people who are charged have their due process rights respected.

Speaker 22 So, what's interesting in all this is many,

Speaker 8 if not the most targeted, are people who have already

Speaker 24 been through that process and have just been let go.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 8 So,

Speaker 8 the court of law thing is already happening.

Speaker 1 That's exactly what you said.

Speaker 1 You think the NPR guy is going to ask that?

Speaker 51 Well, no, because otherwise all my hairdressers' clients will go crazy.

Speaker 1 Okay, this is the clip that's got the WTF moment, which I have to discuss.

Speaker 166 I mean, there has been criticism.

Speaker 165 Well, am I playing 3-NPR or 3-WTF?

Speaker 124 Oh, what?

Speaker 63 Well, I have two clips here, two different lengths.

Speaker 94 I have Dem's view on Albrego.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, it's got to be 3-WTF.

Speaker 40 That

Speaker 39 3-NPR has got to be clip 4.

Speaker 94 I like the guy's new name, Darcia, as great.

Speaker 167 I mean, there has been criticism from some camps about the amount of detail in the 10-page indictment, about the fact that most of this material comes from unnamed sources.

Speaker 167 Do you share that concern, or again, is to you the top line, this is now the formal process that should have happened from the beginning?

Speaker 169 The top line is that this is the formal process and it should have been in court from the beginning. I think the issues you just mentioned will, of course, be a subject of debate and

Speaker 169 litigation in the court. We also know that one of the members of the U.S.
Attorney's Office in Tennessee resigned reportedly in protest

Speaker 169 about how these charges are being brought now.

Speaker 1 He resigned? In protest?

Speaker 1 Reportedly in protest. Where did that reporting come from that they resigned in protest? He has never said he resigned in protest.
His resignation is on LinkedIn. I've read it.

Speaker 1 He quit the day that they indicted Abrego Garcia. ABC, it traces back to ABC claims that

Speaker 1 he resigned in protest.

Speaker 1 So I looked up, and we have it in the show notes because I sent you a link to an article in Tennessee from a local newspaper where it's suspected because this Abrego Garcia situation took place in 2022,

Speaker 1 three years ago, with the smuggling of all his nine people in the car.

Speaker 1 It's believed that the prosecutor knows about some hanky-panky that was going on that allowed this illegality to continue.

Speaker 1 He quit to get out of the way so he doesn't get caught up in what appears to be an upcoming mess.

Speaker 3 Ah,

Speaker 109 that's interesting.

Speaker 1 He didn't quit in any protests, and they can't. No one has gotten a quote from him saying he quit in protest.
Nobody. ABC made it up.

Speaker 12 Oh, I'm not surprised.

Speaker 1 And of course, this Joker from this Connecticut dude, so he, or Maryland, where he's from, Connecticut. He

Speaker 1 congressman. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. He, he, of course,

Speaker 1 goes with it. He says it right there on the report

Speaker 1 as if the guy quit in protest, because this is, this does match the, there were people, if you recall, like, I don't know, six to nine, just right after Trump got in, a bunch of

Speaker 1 federal prosecutors that quit in protest because they were all short-timers and they were part-time. One of them was only there for a month and she quit, if you recall.

Speaker 1 And so now you can always use the quit in protest trope meme to make it sound like something actually happened when it didn't because somebody made it up.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I had to get that off my chest, but it's in the show notes.

Speaker 173 You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 17 Last night, CNN broadcast worldwide first-time ever exclusive, never been done before

Speaker 124 with 20 cameras live from Broadway.

Speaker 120 Right. Yeah, there was some outrageous number of cameras.

Speaker 95 20 cameras. George Clooney.

Speaker 1 Can you imagine being the director?

Speaker 37 I have to say, production-wise, dynamite.

Speaker 67 I watched the whole thing because I'm a big fan of

Speaker 3 the history of the news.

Speaker 14 Yeah, no,

Speaker 72 I'm a big fan of the Great Wide Way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and there's no coincidence that the Tony's are coming up.

Speaker 14 The Chonies.

Speaker 89 Yes, the Chonys.

Speaker 77 Yes, of course.

Speaker 95 And I think Clooney is nominated.

Speaker 94 So it's George Clooney, actually, a bunch of dynamite actors.

Speaker 44 And

Speaker 94 they really did a good job.

Speaker 95 The lighting was good.

Speaker 37 It's about Edward E. Murrow.

Speaker 1 It's basically the movie.

Speaker 8 It's basically the movie.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 23 But it was very well done.

Speaker 37 And I'm looking at it. I'm like, wow, this is pretty good.

Speaker 82 A lot of smoking on stage, which, of course, was back in the day was true.

Speaker 155 What was the name of this product?

Speaker 69 Good Night and Good Luck.

Speaker 1 Right, which is the name of the movie. It was a good movie.

Speaker 111 Well, the play was good.

Speaker 38 but at the very end, you know, Edward E.

Speaker 25 Murrow did this famous speech at some, I don't know what it was at,

Speaker 165 you know, basically, you know,

Speaker 63 a democracy if you can, a republic if you can keep it type speech.

Speaker 25 And so Clooney's up there at the very end, and it's setting this scene of him speaking to this large congregation of people about, you know, how we can use this medium for good or for bad.

Speaker 12 And then it goes, and then it goes into this montage going all the way.

Speaker 30 So it starts off like, you know, First Man on the Moon and the Kennedy assassination.

Speaker 174 And then as it speeds up, it moves all the way up through, you know, Fox News about COVID, election deniers, January 6th, rigged election.

Speaker 100 What? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 None of it was.

Speaker 1 That wasn't in the movie.

Speaker 64 No, of course not.

Speaker 124 And then the crowd went wild at the end. Of course.

Speaker 62 You have the bunch of

Speaker 106 elitist lefties in the audience.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they can spend $90 to $100 for a second.

Speaker 80 Oh, more than that, I'm sure, for this televised version.

Speaker 42 And

Speaker 152 I was so happy.

Speaker 21 I'm like, this is really good.

Speaker 14 I kind of like Clooney in general as an actor for some of the roles he plays.

Speaker 180 But then that came, I'm like,

Speaker 12 you just basically left me with a taste of vomit in my mouth.

Speaker 81 Like, that's all you could pick from all the nonsense, all of the garbage that we've been dealing with since we've been doing the show, all of the, like right up until now, what you just said, just making stuff up.

Speaker 126 And I was like, oh man, that's just too bad.

Speaker 136 It's too bad, I tell you.

Speaker 30 So listen to some of the terms the foreign media is using about President Trump sweeping, sweeping up people.

Speaker 1 Before you do that, you might as well wrap this my clips up. Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 8 I didn't know you had any more.

Speaker 1 Well, the three, when I said was four.

Speaker 85 Oh,

Speaker 62 it's four. I got it.

Speaker 170 Finally, you know, we're able to, he's able to,

Speaker 169 and his family's able to litigate these in a court of law rather than unable to communicate from essentially what is a terrible prison, a notorious prison in El Salvador that he was first taken to.

Speaker 166 Senator, I want to ask you this.

Speaker 167 If all of this ends several steps down the line with Abrego Garcia guilty in federal court and eventually deported, to you, is that still a win for the rule of law and the Constitution?

Speaker 169 The answer is yes. I will be satisfied so long as the rule of law applies, so long as there's no abuse of process.

Speaker 169 And again, the overriding issue here is adherence to the Constitution of the United States.

Speaker 169 This is not the only case where President Trump and his administration are flouting the Constitution and due process.

Speaker 169 But my bottom line has been and remains adherence to the Constitution of the United States, because if you put it at risk for one person, you do jeopardize those rights for everybody.

Speaker 88 Well, he's not wrong about that, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 He is not, but he's wrong.

Speaker 12 I don't know if this is the right case because it's going to look, it's going to be a lot of egg on people's faces when it turns out that this guy was.

Speaker 1 I think that's what he's been doing.

Speaker 3 I think this entire clippage that I played is all damage control.

Speaker 19 Yes.

Speaker 90 Oh, it's a control. It's all damage control.

Speaker 37 It's all damage control.

Speaker 98 Okay, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good point. So it's damage.

Speaker 1 It's preemptive damage control. And I think he did a pretty good job of that.

Speaker 1 If you don't realize that he lied about the, you know, the guy who quitting protests and all the rest of it, and he soft-pedaled the whole thing, and now he's promoting it's not about and he's he prefaced the whole thing by saying it's not about the man.

Speaker 8 Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, it's about the process, guys.

Speaker 36 Yeah, good catch.

Speaker 60 Good catch.

Speaker 67 Well, so instead of playing you the European clips and the verbiage they use

Speaker 112 about

Speaker 26 the immigration.

Speaker 182 It's not Pride Month, it's World Pride Month.

Speaker 22 I hope you've noticed this.

Speaker 2 When did that happen, by the way?

Speaker 23 Well, they did a rebranding.

Speaker 1 When did that happen? I'm asking.

Speaker 8 This year.

Speaker 1 This year.

Speaker 1 This year is the first year of World Pride Month.

Speaker 85 I believe so.

Speaker 62 Yes, I believe so.

Speaker 2 Well, they slipped that one by us.

Speaker 115 And of course,

Speaker 7 just by calling it Pride is

Speaker 8 by itself, it's just, it's, it's, it's a sin

Speaker 96 to be prideful.

Speaker 79 But that's just me.

Speaker 103 So

Speaker 67 here's France 24. And listen to what they're saying President Trump is doing to the LGBTQ plus community, which really is only about the T's because it's very, very small.

Speaker 23 And

Speaker 1 I have noticed that most of the World Pride Month stuff is

Speaker 1 they do have some of the crazy flags, but they have mostly trans flags. Yes.

Speaker 81 Kamala is for they, them.

Speaker 92 President Trump is for you.

Speaker 183 From campaign ads targeting the transgender community to executive orders banning them from military service.

Speaker 47 So targeting.

Speaker 185 No, that campaign ad was targeting the Republican base of Donald Trump.

Speaker 23 It wasn't targeting.

Speaker 102 Do you mean like they were shooting at them?

Speaker 8 It wasn't targeting them.

Speaker 161 It was actually targeting the base he wanted to vote for them.

Speaker 8 So no, that's incorrect.

Speaker 183 From campaign ads targeting the transgender community to executive orders banning them from military service, Trump has ramped up his attacks against. It's attacks.

Speaker 64 It's attacks.

Speaker 14 Attacks.

Speaker 8 No, it's not an attack.

Speaker 1 He had one proclamation about men or men and women or women. Where's the rest of these attacks? It's plural.
She is.

Speaker 32 That was plural.

Speaker 3 Oh, there's many more.

Speaker 8 Attacks.

Speaker 183 Trump has ramped up his attacks against the LGBTQ community, going as far as erasing any mention of them on the White House and several government agency websites.

Speaker 155 Erasing.

Speaker 114 This is another important term, erasing, because somehow

Speaker 82 the narrative has become Trump wants to erase.

Speaker 97 I can hear your wind chimes going crazy, by the way.

Speaker 73 Oh, that's my dog.

Speaker 62 I'm sorry.

Speaker 157 It's not me.

Speaker 129 It's the dog.

Speaker 7 Hey, Bubba, it's okay.

Speaker 35 What are you doing?

Speaker 168 She's itchy.

Speaker 1 The dog has wind chimes?

Speaker 16 Yes, the dog has to do. What do you do then?

Speaker 1 You're torturing the animal. Phoebe, come on.
Can you imagine what it sounds like to a dog?

Speaker 62 It's her collar.

Speaker 95 The narrative is Trump wants to erase us, erase, and with us, that means trans.

Speaker 104 It's not about lesbians and gays.

Speaker 41 It's about trans.

Speaker 183 For the organizers of World Pride, the campaign has only increased the celebration's importance.

Speaker 187 Through World Pride and all the prides that are going to take place, not just here in the United States, but around the world, this is the year that we need to ensure that we remain visible and seen.

Speaker 187 So folks know.

Speaker 1 Was there an invisibility problem that we're not recognizing when they got flags everywhere you go?

Speaker 8 I'm telling you, this is the whole thing we're being erased, which is just not.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing zero evidence of this.

Speaker 51 No, there's no evidence of them.

Speaker 1 They're being emphasized.

Speaker 8 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 138 There's no evidence of them being erased.

Speaker 75 It's just the narrative.

Speaker 187 This is the year that we need to ensure that we remain visible and seen. So folks know that there's a place for them, that there are people fighting for them.

Speaker 183 For the LGBTQ community, resistance to Trump's policies is key. Within the U.S., a group of transgender soldiers are challenging the executive order banning them in the military in court.

Speaker 183 Abroad, some are making the difficult decision to skip the celebration altogether to avoid problems at the border.

Speaker 8 So they somehow

Speaker 67 They think they're going to have problems at the border coming into the United States because they're trans?

Speaker 1 Yes, I've seen a bunch of TikTok clips on this, and

Speaker 1 they're holding up their passport, and it's an M, and

Speaker 69 they identify as a girl, and they look like a girl.

Speaker 1 They got the decept of the voice, and they feel that this is going to get them thrown in jail or shot. I don't know

Speaker 1 what they're thinking.

Speaker 164 Meanwhile, others privilege showing up visibility is resistance when you say that we no longer exist, and then we show up in hundreds of thousands of numbers, then it defies this narrative that you have that we don't exist.

Speaker 125 This is it.

Speaker 161 We don't exist.

Speaker 142 Yes, you do.

Speaker 175 Everyone recognizes. You know, the funny thing is, there's

Speaker 102 this trans woman, Lynn Alden.

Speaker 155 Lynn Alden, and Lynn Alden is an economist

Speaker 76 and talks a lot about Bitcoin at Bitcoin conferences.

Speaker 83 And I had actually asked someone the other: hey, is that Leon Alden?

Speaker 21 Is Leon Alden trans?

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's trans.

Speaker 138 Nobody cares because Leon Alden just acts like a human being.

Speaker 175 Just no one cares.

Speaker 114 But when you just talk about him being erased and no one wants, you know, Lynn Alden's not erased.

Speaker 172 Leon Alden is one of the most visible faces in all of Bitcoin.

Speaker 14 It's like, why don't you just act like a human being and a member of society?

Speaker 10 And then there's no problem.

Speaker 26 Anyway, now we have the orchestra.

Speaker 97 This is great.

Speaker 189 At a patriotic concert before World Pride festivities in Washington, D.C., legendary drag queen Peaches Christ paraphrased famous American writer Mark Twain.

Speaker 8 Patriotism means, I'll get this right, loving your country all of the time and your government when it deserves it.

Speaker 189 The International Pride Orchestra had originally been in talks to play the Kennedy Center, the most prestigious venue in the United States, but those plans were dashed after President Donald Trump gets office.

Speaker 18 Dashed.

Speaker 69 They were dashed.

Speaker 195 They were dashed.

Speaker 81 So June 14th is No King's Day?

Speaker 1 I thought it was

Speaker 15 Juneteenth.

Speaker 56 No.

Speaker 70 Isn't that 18th? Isn't that June 18th?

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. It's on a Thursday.
It's a show day.

Speaker 161 Oh, good. Well, it's No King's Day.

Speaker 1 No King's Day? Yeah. By the way, I do have a World Pride Day clip I just noticed, so don't let me forget.
Okay.

Speaker 67 No Kings Day is a nationwide day of defiance.

Speaker 95 From city blocks to small towns, from courthouse steps to community parks.

Speaker 1 No Kings is referring to Trump. Yes.

Speaker 81 We're taking action to reject authoritarianism and show the world what democracy really looks like.

Speaker 1 This is what democracy looks like.

Speaker 74 Nokings.org is the website.

Speaker 179 And of course, can't really find who's behind all of this.

Speaker 1 Soros.

Speaker 74 Possibly.

Speaker 67 It's organized by an outfit called a 50-51.

Speaker 16 So 5-01.

Speaker 1 Which refers to a nutball.

Speaker 181 No, that's 5150.

Speaker 66 Oh, 5-0-5-0-1.

Speaker 37 I haven't quite figured that one out.

Speaker 1 Upside down.

Speaker 72 It's first and foremost the movement of, by, and for the people.

Speaker 196 We are not nationally incorporated and have no plans to change that.

Speaker 8 But they do have a lot of

Speaker 124 groups that

Speaker 107 work with them.

Speaker 44 No Voice Unheard,

Speaker 95 Build the Resistance.

Speaker 23 There's a lot of, it's all socialist, by the way.

Speaker 75 Build the Resistance with a Socialist Fist.

Speaker 44 I can't really find out.

Speaker 22 It seems like there's a bigger organization behind this.

Speaker 1 But we can look. Well, I'm sure there is.

Speaker 8 There has to be. Yeah, we can.

Speaker 1 Somebody's paying the bills.

Speaker 63 So if you look at

Speaker 42 the

Speaker 177 Aboot, we already got the Aboot page.

Speaker 3 They have the partners.

Speaker 69 Partners.

Speaker 1 If you can find one person, you can find associations.

Speaker 98 So

Speaker 191 350.org.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 66 Education, Healthcare, Public Services, American Humanists Association.

Speaker 1 350, isn't 350 the parts per million group? The climate change people?

Speaker 85 Yes.

Speaker 165 ACLU, the ACLU.

Speaker 155 There they are.

Speaker 26 Bend the Ark, Jewish Action, Black Voters Matter, Climate Hawks, Climate Defenders, Communications Workers of America, Common Defense.

Speaker 101 I mean, there's a huge page here.

Speaker 80 Families Over Billionaires.

Speaker 95 Federal Unionist Network, Federal Workers Against Doge,

Speaker 37 Human Rights campaign.

Speaker 82 I mean, it's just,

Speaker 8 and but there's a lot of organizations, big and small. So anyway, just.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have to wonder if they're all there on purpose, if there's some of them never agreed to this.

Speaker 197 There's always that possibility because there's so many of these things.

Speaker 1 It's very possible. You don't know.
You'd have to go try to track down someone at one of these operations and say, would you guys subscribe to this thing? How much money did you give them?

Speaker 1 This guy has to be on the mailing list.

Speaker 112 All right.

Speaker 41 what's your World Pride clip?

Speaker 1 Well, that's a little pride, a little thing, which got a little punchline. I thought it was funny.

Speaker 167 DC is hosting World Pride Celebrations, a high-profile series of events highlighting LGBTQ rights.

Speaker 167 This year's World Pride comes at a time when the Trump administration has targeted LGBTQ groups and people in a wide range of ways.

Speaker 35 Targeted. They're targeted.

Speaker 1 Targeted. Yeah, this is NPR.

Speaker 8 Targeted.

Speaker 129 Targeted.

Speaker 89 It's targeting. It's just

Speaker 135 these words.

Speaker 167 This year's World Pride comes at a time when the Trump administration has targeted LGBTQ groups and people in a wide range of ways, from barring transgender.

Speaker 145 By the way, I don't think it's been outlawed for gays or lesbians to be in the military, has it?

Speaker 8 No, I don't think so.

Speaker 107 No, I think that's okay.

Speaker 1 Costly trans. You got to have drugs and to keep you trans.
It costs a lot of money. What's your taxpayer's money?

Speaker 1 It's costly.

Speaker 7 Costly trans.

Speaker 85 Oh, man.

Speaker 167 In a wide range of ways, from barring transgender service members from the armed forces to stripping gay rights pioneer Harvey Milk's name from a Navy ship.

Speaker 13 So listen to the targeting.

Speaker 18 What are the grievances?

Speaker 95 The targeting?

Speaker 72 Is he killing them?

Speaker 135 Is he disappearing them?

Speaker 26 Is he erasing them from the voter rolls?

Speaker 67 Is he erasing them from the face of the earth?

Speaker 161 No, the issues are.

Speaker 167 In a wide range of ways.

Speaker 27 A wide range of ways.

Speaker 109 This is it.

Speaker 135 Pay attention. Here are the issues.

Speaker 167 Barring transgender service members from the armed forces to stripping gay rights pioneer Harvey Milk's name from a Navy ship.

Speaker 148 We took a name off a ship.

Speaker 14 This is an outrage.

Speaker 167 NPR's Alana Wise was on the scene ahead of today's Big Pride parade and joins us. And a heads up, you'll hear sirens in this piece.

Speaker 88 Oh, heads up.

Speaker 7 We don't want you to be triggered by sirens.

Speaker 167 Hey, Alana.

Speaker 198 Hi there. Hi there.

Speaker 8 Hi there.

Speaker 167 What was the energy like on the streets right now?

Speaker 198 Yeah, as you mentioned, this is the first year that DC is actually hosting World Pride, but it's also DC's 50th anniversary hosting its own Pride celebrations.

Speaker 198 And people seemed really ready to celebrate that. But, you know, more than a big party, Pride is also a call to action for the LGBTQ community to fight for their rights.

Speaker 198 I happened to speak with someone named Kylan Mahaney from Virginia about why Pride is so important.

Speaker 199 We got to be able to celebrate and be and be seen because otherwise we will be disappeared.

Speaker 68 You'll be disappeared.

Speaker 85 No.

Speaker 85 No.

Speaker 7 This is this is, and you know, people gotta be disappeared, at I'm kicked with it people

Speaker 50 going to she said so you heard her yeah

Speaker 1 now I just as a kicker if you want an extra little clip here I have it this the yacht clip which should say talk I'm sorry is a bull dyke oh yes this is the one with the with the kid in the in the in the mall yeah yeah it's a good clip I was misgendered yesterday well explain what she looks like just so just so we can she's well if you don't know what a bull dyke looks like she's got a really short haircut she's She's mean-looking, but she's pleasant at the same time.

Speaker 1 She is. I mean, I can no other way to describe it.
But she's a lesbian, a harsh, harsh-looking.

Speaker 1 It's like

Speaker 8 if you saw her.

Speaker 3 Butch, I think, is that butch.

Speaker 1 She's basically very butch. And

Speaker 1 if you saw her, you'd say, there's a lesbian.

Speaker 115 By the way, if she didn't cut her hair crop so short, she'd actually be quite attractive as a woman.

Speaker 75 Wouldn't you say? I mean, I saw this clip, so

Speaker 69 oh, wait,

Speaker 75 sorry. This is two times.

Speaker 14 We only get two of these a show.

Speaker 62 Okay, sorry.

Speaker 74 But you do, no, the interface just crapped out again.

Speaker 56 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 41 Did you hear what I said?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I heard everything.

Speaker 73 Okay, well, response.

Speaker 74 I said if she if she didn't have her hair all chopped up, oh, you didn't hear what I said.

Speaker 22 No, no, no, I didn't hear what you said.

Speaker 1 Oh, I said she, if you saw her on the street, you'd say there's a lesbian, right?

Speaker 139 But I said, if she didn't crop her hair all choppy, she would be quite attractive as a woman.

Speaker 1 I think she could.

Speaker 47 I think you.

Speaker 1 It's hard to argue against that.

Speaker 1 She's got nice features.

Speaker 8 She's got nice features.

Speaker 114 I was misgendered yesterday.

Speaker 142 A little girl at the mall.

Speaker 200 She was maybe five years old, sitting in a wagon, kept staring at me. So I made eye contact, and she said, are you a girl or a boy? Her mom started to go, oh my God,

Speaker 200 we accept everyone. That's so rude.
You can't say that. And I laughed and I bent down on her level.
And I said, that's okay. It's confusing sometimes.
I'm a girl. I just really like boys' clothes.

Speaker 200 They're pretty comfy. She got all excited and she said, I'm a girl, too.
And I gave her a high five. I said, isn't it so great being a girl?

Speaker 21 I love being a girl.

Speaker 11 She said, yeah, that's my brother.

Speaker 200 He's a brother because he's a boy.

Speaker 117 So I said, you're right.

Speaker 200 Brothers are boys and sisters are girls. There's only boys and girls.
If you're born a girl, you're a girl. I was born a girl.

Speaker 200 I can almost see the release of error coming from her mother's body and just the ultimate sigh of relief that I wasn't going to be indoctrinating her child or teaching her child something that maybe she didn't want her to know.

Speaker 200 I continued to talk to the little girl about her brother and her very cute dog, who was also a girl. I said, I hope you have a great day, and I went about my business.

Speaker 200 That is how you address gender to children. You don't.

Speaker 200 That is how you empower little girls and let them know that it's okay to be a girl who dresses however you want without having to change your gender.

Speaker 200 That is how you avoid confusing children, especially children that aren't your own, and projecting your bullshit on them because you might be offended that they use the wrong pronoun.

Speaker 19 America!

Speaker 8 Exactly.

Speaker 37 That's an American lesbian, whatever she is.

Speaker 29 I don't care.

Speaker 175 That's an American woman.

Speaker 125 Who gets it.

Speaker 76 Don't push the crap on the children.

Speaker 113 So, along those lines, yes, I have a TikTok clip.

Speaker 79 Yes, I do.

Speaker 62 Now, this is a very calm, very normal-looking young woman.

Speaker 82 And she explains something that I hadn't really

Speaker 37 thought about, but when she said it, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's so true.

Speaker 108 What she is going to explain here is how

Speaker 56 liberal people,

Speaker 70 I don't want to say Democrats, but just people who

Speaker 8 were liberal.

Speaker 1 Democrats.

Speaker 126 I wouldn't say, not exactly, when you hear what she has to say.

Speaker 56 How

Speaker 67 Democrats, in your words,

Speaker 124 have been psyoped

Speaker 79 into

Speaker 106 staying away from healthy and wholesome things in life

Speaker 26 because it's all right-wing, crazy, nut jobs, MAGA.

Speaker 201 I used to do CrossFit like literally every day of the week at 5 a.m.

Speaker 201 And that might feel weird to you because when you think CrossFit, you probably think alt-right, or not at least alt-right, but people who are conservative.

Speaker 201 Because over the last, I'd say, like seven years, there's been this shift where we are aligning fitness and especially things like weightlifting and CrossFit in particular with the right.

Speaker 201 It slipped into that pipeline.

Speaker 201 Years ago, if you used essential oils or you made your own bread or you had chickens, people didn't make assumptions about you wanting to be like a trad wife who doesn't vaccinate.

Speaker 201 Like that used to just be its own thing.

Speaker 201 Similarly to how like in the 80s or 90s homeschooling wasn't owned really by like one predominant religious group and one predominant type of person.

Speaker 201 And now, homeschooling itself has shifted to where, if you're not homeschooling in that way, you have to actually differentiate that. And so you have to say, we're part of XYZ homeschooling.

Speaker 201 Like, there's different brandings now of homeschooling. But now there's this association of like CrossFit is MAGA.
Homeschooling is MAGA.

Speaker 201 Wanting to have chickens and my own eggs should not be a red flag of a political alignment. Like, just let me let me want my own chickens, please.
Yeah.

Speaker 106 Just killing people with this nonsense.

Speaker 103 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 84 And

Speaker 67 I could not be.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're a Democratic hand, but chicken.

Speaker 21 You're mad at me.

Speaker 90 By the way,

Speaker 1 not to change the subject, and you can get right back to it, but this egg thing that just took place,

Speaker 1 the ridiculous, and people should go to the FDA, I guess it's the FDA website, and look at the number of brands that this one egg provider with salmonella laced eggs. It's everybody.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Old brand, 365. They have all the packages shown there.

Speaker 33 Are we all going to die?

Speaker 1 Rallies.

Speaker 1 Not necessarily. No, but

Speaker 1 what got me.

Speaker 51 They all come from one supplier?

Speaker 1 One supplier is supplying at least 20 brands of eggs.

Speaker 1 Which seems to me,

Speaker 1 why don't they just have their own damn brand? And there's none of their brand.

Speaker 1 So you're ruining the reputation of all these companies, including O, the organic operation that runs out of Whole Foods. Oh, really? 0365, whatever it is.
That's one of them.

Speaker 1 0365, New Laid, which I always thought was just a big egg for you.

Speaker 8 Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Speaker 76 So even the so-called organic eggs all come from the same chicken poop farm?

Speaker 15 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 114 You know how I got my eggs this morning?

Speaker 202 Mike.

Speaker 1 Mike comes.

Speaker 1 That's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to get it.
I get eggs from Jay.

Speaker 118 Well, Mike came up to me in church.

Speaker 161 He says, hey, I put two cartons of eggs under your car.

Speaker 72 Don't drive over them.

Speaker 28 That's how I get my eggs.

Speaker 1 Well, hopefully you remembered.

Speaker 74 Yes, I told Tina.

Speaker 42 Otherwise, I might have forgotten.

Speaker 174 But yeah, that's how you get your eggs around here.

Speaker 10 You know why?

Speaker 203 Mike's got too many eggs.

Speaker 1 He does, obviously.

Speaker 90 He got waste of eggs.

Speaker 50 He's giving you two whole cartons.

Speaker 126 Yeah, and the only thing he says, can you give me the cartons back?

Speaker 8 That's all he wants.

Speaker 1 Yes, all the egg guy. This is true of all guys who give eggs away or even sell eggs out of their backyard.

Speaker 7 They

Speaker 1 need those cartons.

Speaker 12 So above all miracles, what took place, even for Fox News, where this is from, all of a sudden, raw milk is good for you.

Speaker 204 So after years of being one-upped by plant-based alternatives like oat milk and cashew cream, real

Speaker 204 dairy products, like especially raw milk, are having a comeback. They're having a moment.
So talk to us about raw milk because, Nicole, it's not easy to get raw milk.

Speaker 204 Me and Charlie talk about it a lot. It's easier to get meth than raw milk.

Speaker 110 This is a good point.

Speaker 95 In America, it's easier to get meth than raw milk.

Speaker 1 I think that's a great line.

Speaker 52 That's a very good line.

Speaker 204 Talk about it a lot. It's easier to get meth than raw milk.
He said that his dealer got arrested, his raw milk dealer. So

Speaker 206 the reason people started to go away from animal dairy, you know, cow's milk, sheep's milk, goat milk, is because that there were some studies a couple of decades ago saying, you know what, there's high fats and there's high cholesterol potentially in these animal-based dairy products.

Speaker 206 Well, most of that research has essentially been

Speaker 206 determined to be obsolete. And in fact, animal-based dairy is the best for you, high in nutrients.
Those proteins are complete. It's incredibly good for you.

Speaker 205 Great for your bone, your skin, your entire body.

Speaker 206 So my children have always had whole milk. Now, what you're talking about is raw milk.
So, you know, when you just go to the grocery store, that's not raw milk.

Speaker 206 That's animal dairy, which is great for you. But there are concerns with that in terms of hormones, antibiotics, and some of the other things that come along with it.

Speaker 206 The reason you have a hard time getting raw milk at Rachel is because it's illegal in like 20 of our states, and you can't even sell it across state lines.

Speaker 206 And the reason that it's become illegal is because the government has stepped in because there are some concerns with raw milk in terms of certain bacteria like E.

Speaker 206 coli, Campylobacter, and some others. But the reality is there are safe ways to have raw milk, raw dairy.
It's just a matter of where you get it from, just like everything else.

Speaker 51 Nutsap is on the outs.

Speaker 1 You know, most of the cheese in Europe

Speaker 8 is made with raw material. Raw milk.
Yes, of course.

Speaker 1 Most of the cheese in the United States is made with pasteurized milk. It's extremely rare to find raw milk cheese made in the United States.
And the cheese in Europe is better.

Speaker 172 Now, stay with me me because now we're going to go from raw milk to Operation Stork Speed.

Speaker 16 Have you heard of Operation Stork Speed?

Speaker 1 Stork, like in the baby carrier?

Speaker 8 That's the one.

Speaker 56 Wait, let me do it.

Speaker 1 No, I have not.

Speaker 19 Operation Stork Speed.

Speaker 121 Welcome back, Democrats on Capitol Hill, pushing back on HHS Secretary RFK Jr.'s Operation Stork Speed.

Speaker 3 The FDA is watching.

Speaker 146 Hold on a second. Stop, stop, stop.

Speaker 1 Where did you get this clip?

Speaker 68 Fox.

Speaker 1 It's funny they said, Welcome back, Democrats.

Speaker 3 Well, she

Speaker 1 knows she's supposed to say she should have had a two-beat pause, but she didn't.

Speaker 63 No, she actually had the pause.

Speaker 34 That's the problem.

Speaker 27 She said, Welcome back, Democrats.

Speaker 123 And then, yeah, she had the pause in the wrong spot because, you know, why?

Speaker 30 She's a news model reading it from the prompter.

Speaker 2 Welcome back, Democrats.

Speaker 112 Welcome back, Democrats. Scroll up.

Speaker 121 Oh. Welcome back, Democrats on Capitol Hill, pushing back.

Speaker 161 Welcome back, Democrats on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 121 Welcome back, Democrats on Capitol Hill, pushing back on HHS Secretary RFK Jr.'s operation.

Speaker 207 Literally, she didn't have time to preview the script because I'm sure she was doing her hair, you know, or whatever, and couldn't.

Speaker 8 I don't blame her.

Speaker 1 I blame the script writer.

Speaker 72 I hate to say it.

Speaker 62 I blame the teleprompter operator.

Speaker 16 The teleprompter operator should have put a comma or a new.

Speaker 8 The teleprompter operator doesn't

Speaker 1 write the copy.

Speaker 39 They just move the copy.

Speaker 1 Very few. I don't know any teleprompter operators that actually wrote teleprompter.

Speaker 47 They will edit and format all the time.

Speaker 81 These days, not the old school days, because it was just paper on a conveyor belt with a camera above it.

Speaker 8 A good teleprompter operator will see this.

Speaker 1 Well, somebody fucked up. And I don't blame the reader at all.

Speaker 1 She's supposed to read what she put in front of her.

Speaker 161 And she did. Welcome back, Democrats.

Speaker 141 No agenda.

Speaker 121 Welcome back, Democrats on Capitol Hill, pushing back on HHS Secretary RFK Jr.'s Operation Stork Speed. The FDA is launching the first review of baby formula ingredients in three decades.

Speaker 121 They're aiming for more testing for heavy metals and contaminants, clearer labeling on formula. 20-plus Democratic lawmakers now are telling RFK Jr.

Speaker 121 he is essentially killing his own project's chances.

Speaker 121 They say the decision to lay off 20,000 HHS employees and 3,500 FDA employees, including those who oversaw health and safety research of infant formula, sets this operation up to fail.

Speaker 121 Well, here to respond to that is the FDA Commissioner, Dr. Marty McCary.

Speaker 121 Doctor, thanks for being with us today. Great to have you.
From our voice on this issue, what's your response to that criticism from Dems?

Speaker 150 Well, for the last 26 years, we've seen really no innovation in baby formula.

Speaker 132 The current system is not working. The FDA doubled the number of employees here at the agency since 2007 to today.

Speaker 150 So doubling the number of employees has not fixed the baby formula problem.

Speaker 150 The problem is that the government issues a recipe and companies must follow that recipe to get baby formula out on the market.

Speaker 150 And so for 26 years we've seen essentially very few innovative products, almost no changes.

Speaker 150 Moms want baby formula without seed oil, without corn syrup, without added sugar, without arsenic and lead and other heavy metals.

Speaker 150 And so we convened a group of experts to figure out how we get this right and how we modernize the way we approve baby formula in the United States.

Speaker 8 All right.

Speaker 44 So here is, and I have two more short clips on this because I didn't know that it contained seed oils and arsenic and fructose corn syrup.

Speaker 112 The exit strategy out of this is going back to boobs.

Speaker 8 What happened to that?

Speaker 81 What was wrong with breast milk?

Speaker 73 I'm asking you a question.

Speaker 1 Well, I think they're assuming that. I mean,

Speaker 1 I'm assuming that most mothers breastfeed.

Speaker 103 Oh, I think they have breastfeeding.

Speaker 1 And then they have breast pumps to get the excessive milk, and then they put that, and that's what they use for the beer in a bottle.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I think I'm not.

Speaker 3 I don't think so.

Speaker 135 I'm quite confident that the baby formula lobby has psyoped everybody into believing you just need baby formula.

Speaker 129 I'm not so sure. I mean,

Speaker 114 the last time I saw a woman breastfeeding was at a no-agenda meetup.

Speaker 1 You see a lot of breastfeeding in the San Francisco Bay Area. And that would be the place you'd think there would be,

Speaker 1 you know, I mean, it's seven.

Speaker 1 There should be a survey done. There's no reason.

Speaker 1 If a woman can breastfeed, there's absolutely no reason that you would ever use baby formula. It's not going to be as good ever.

Speaker 78 Now, Tina is texting me, and I'm this, and I was going to say this.

Speaker 72 She says some women can't breastfeed.

Speaker 155 They have issues with

Speaker 8 that or producing enough milk.

Speaker 102 And now, I'm not a woman.

Speaker 1 If you say you had twins, or if you had triplets, you're not going to be able to handle it.

Speaker 72 In agreement.

Speaker 1 But to me, it sounds like the majority is using formula.

Speaker 1 I don't think so.

Speaker 27 Well, you know what?

Speaker 44 Neither of us really know.

Speaker 1 No, we don't know. Neither one of us actually know.
But I do know that I wouldn't have assumed what you assume. I would have assumed the opposite.
Well, somebody, we have to get some stats.

Speaker 74 We need an expert.

Speaker 161 We need stats.

Speaker 94 Called the Archduke of Luna.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and lover of boobs. He would be the

Speaker 1 clearinghouse. Yes.

Speaker 14 Darling, do you want to come in and be the expert?

Speaker 8 She's blowing up my phone.

Speaker 160 Look,

Speaker 7 I'm not right. Okay.

Speaker 145 There you go. The expert speaks.

Speaker 58 I'm not right.

Speaker 1 Well, that ends. Oh, that would mean I'm right.

Speaker 8 Yeah, you're right, I guess.

Speaker 20 Where was that again?

Speaker 64 You're right, I guess.

Speaker 8 I guess. Okay, you are right.

Speaker 62 You're correct.

Speaker 1 Sir.

Speaker 135 So what did we do?

Speaker 96 What did we, sir? You are right, sir.

Speaker 113 What did we do before baby formula?

Speaker 138 Did the children just die of malnutrition?

Speaker 90 Yes, they just died. They just died.

Speaker 39 Gave them water. They just died.

Speaker 3 They just died. Or

Speaker 104 from what I understand, there's a lot of dark networks who trade baby milk, mothers who have excess and they sell it or they trade it.

Speaker 50 It's just a meat.

Speaker 1 Look, that's.

Speaker 51 No, you know what?

Speaker 8 John, I have a theory.

Speaker 8 Okay, in a minute.

Speaker 124 You're already right, sir.

Speaker 1 No, no, but I was just going to say,

Speaker 1 if you go back in time before baby formula, formula, which is obviously a mishmash of stuff, why wouldn't you just give the kid cow's milk in a bottle?

Speaker 21 Well,

Speaker 172 neither of us know.

Speaker 108 Neither of us know.

Speaker 161 But I would like to know before formula,

Speaker 124 what happened?

Speaker 67 Were there, I mean, some people are saying wet nurses.

Speaker 8 I've heard of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's that.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 106 I'm sure that you can, now, here you go.

Speaker 52 Tina, who is, who should just get on the mic, actually,

Speaker 136 is telling me that Saddle Tramp, you remember Saddle Tramp?

Speaker 105 Saddle Tramp listens to the show. Yeah, you do.

Speaker 41 She's a producer.

Speaker 63 Saddle Tramp, she could not produce or could not attach or whatever.

Speaker 102 And she made her own formula with raw milk.

Speaker 75 So there's playing into your theory.

Speaker 102 I would just like to know.

Speaker 158 If these are new issues, what happened?

Speaker 196 Why can women no longer provide their milk?

Speaker 8 You know, so just tell me what happened back in the, on the prairie, little house on the prairie. What did Laura Ingels do?

Speaker 37 That's all I want to know.

Speaker 74 And now I will continue with the atrocity that is baby formula, which makes me want to breastfeed.

Speaker 121 I'm like choking as you're talking. Full disclosure, doctor, I've got a five-month-old on formula at home.

Speaker 121 I do know now a considerable number of moms who are essentially importing baby formula from European countries because it is so-called cleaner. You know, it has less preservatives, less chemicals.

Speaker 121 Is that a good thing to be doing right now?

Speaker 132 Well, look, our process in terms of our regulation of baby formula has been frozen in time.

Speaker 150 There have been incredible advances in nutrition science. We had an expert this week at the FDA.

Speaker 161 Do you want your children

Speaker 76 ingesting nutrition science?

Speaker 19 I don't think so.

Speaker 150 We had an expert this week at the FDA on our expert panel talk about how, in primate studies, when primates are fed a certain kind of baby formulae, that is with a certain kind of seed oil, their visual acuity was worse on the eye chart.

Speaker 35 This is important research.

Speaker 121 So we've got to

Speaker 111 what

Speaker 1 seed oil is blinding people.

Speaker 209 Their visual acuity was worse on the eye chart.

Speaker 150 This is important research. so we've got to innovate, and that's what we're doing here.

Speaker 20 Okay.

Speaker 1 What about expeller seed oils? Expeller seeds? Their whole thing is out of control.

Speaker 143 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Now, I've had this article.

Speaker 1 By the way, I'm somewhat in agreement with you because I think that the women of the world, but in America mostly, because we're suckers, have been sold a bill of goods on this idea of formula instead of natural breastfeeding.

Speaker 1 I know what you're thinking,

Speaker 1 even though I got you to agree with me, but I know exactly what you're thinking because there's been a

Speaker 1 move, a propagandistic promotion by Nestle and others who make the

Speaker 1 formulas to tell moms, no, no, no, no, this is better because it's formulated. It's why it's called a formula.
Get it?

Speaker 3 Yep.

Speaker 10 No, I'm with you.

Speaker 14 I'm with you.

Speaker 51 So that's all I want to know is before formula, just in 1849, go west, young man, and lady and family.

Speaker 14 What would they do?

Speaker 67 If they could not produce breast milk, could they?

Speaker 73 Was always, hey, no problem, I got it.

Speaker 196 Would they have attachment problems?

Speaker 16 Did they not have those problems? What caused those problems?

Speaker 62 This is what Operation Stork should do for me.

Speaker 172 I want to know more about

Speaker 47 Like they had no problem.

Speaker 26 Well, raw milk is great from a cow, but now you need innovation in baby formula.

Speaker 112 So, Marty here, Dr.

Speaker 83 Marty, he seems more like he's working on behalf of big food

Speaker 26 than

Speaker 69 on behalf of the American people.

Speaker 35 Of course.

Speaker 8 So, I've had this article for the past

Speaker 141 three shows.

Speaker 27 No one has done a news

Speaker 8 report on it, which

Speaker 29 is bothersome.

Speaker 1 But it's fine. Ah, you couldn't find a clip.

Speaker 62 No, exactly.

Speaker 50 Well, and that makes sense.

Speaker 1 I've got a bunch of those backed up, too. It's like, where's the clip?

Speaker 120 Where's the media?

Speaker 1 Why isn't this being covered? Where somebody's actually saying something? No. Yeah.

Speaker 77 And so I've been reluctant to talk about this because I don't like spiking the ball unnecessarily.

Speaker 158 And it's not exactly spiking the ball, but it finally showed up.

Speaker 37 No, not yet.

Speaker 196 But it showed up in the New York Post.

Speaker 14 So that means eventually Fox News will do a story on it.

Speaker 67 This is about Ozempic.

Speaker 158 Many male Ozempic users are saying since they started injecting the weight loss shot, their penises have grown.

Speaker 138 Some say up to one inch.

Speaker 53 Oh, brother.

Speaker 1 This is like.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, yeah, if you're

Speaker 1 a big fat gut, you're just, you know, and you shrink.

Speaker 1 Everything's going to look bigger that doesn't get affected.

Speaker 10 I don't know.

Speaker 19 I don't know.

Speaker 1 you this would be something that maybe you should experiment with yeah i don't think so i mean i still want to be able to walk you know no no that's the line the line is big enough

Speaker 70 well i did it in my own way you just didn't like my punchline yeah it wasn't as good you didn't like my punchline

Speaker 104 um okay now i would just like to for a moment uh

Speaker 102 oh by the way no i have one more uh big pharma clip here

Speaker 86 uh

Speaker 72 when we're talking about new pandemics and the COVID, if we've got the M beta 8128.111 beta pre-release.

Speaker 56 You know,

Speaker 1 just as an aside, my favorite, I don't have a clip, but it's all over the place. Every newsletter, McCullough.
By the way, I'm sick and tired of McCullough. and Pinsky going on TV selling crap.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's a little bothersome, isn't it?

Speaker 1 It's very bothersome. These guys, and then they have their websites and they're selling crap, overpriced

Speaker 1 fiber mechanics.

Speaker 70 Very expensive.

Speaker 23 Yeah, overpriced

Speaker 1 everything. You can get it elsewhere cheaper.
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 1 the latest thing floating around, Nex means horrible death. And Nex Spike, the new Moderna vaccine, means Nex means horrible in Latin.
It means horrible death in Latin.

Speaker 75 Oh, interesting.

Speaker 103 Have you seen these? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 I've gotten dozens of people.

Speaker 106 No, I haven't seen that yet. No.

Speaker 1 Oh, you will. But

Speaker 1 the funny thing is, if you do a Latin translation, I mean, if you wanted to have more fun, Nex does mean death

Speaker 1 in Latin.

Speaker 143 Spell that Nex? NEX?

Speaker 20 NEX.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Nex.

Speaker 1 Nobody said anything about Nexium, which has been around for 30 years, but okay.

Speaker 1 So Nex means that, but if you use Nex Spike, which is the name of this vaccine, and you put that in the Latin generator,

Speaker 1 it means don't.

Speaker 157 Which is actually funnier.

Speaker 42 Yeah, that is good.

Speaker 80 No, the only thing this just caught my eye because it's like when you're when you're pushing this, the you know, we're the next spike and the new pandemic and all the, then Netflix comes along and has a new documentary.

Speaker 135 Just bothered me.

Speaker 211 Native to Asia and sub-Saharan Africa, pangolins are the only mammals that are not the pangolins. Baby pangolin lives at Chicago's Brookfield Zoo, the only place in the U.S.

Speaker 211 where visitors can see pangolins up close. Pangolins are also one of the world's most trafficked mammals, prized for their meat and scales, which are used in traditional medicine.

Speaker 211 Poaching and deforestation of their natural habitats have drastically reduced their population and several pangolin species are now listed as threatened or endangered.

Speaker 211 Now a new Netflix documentary is bringing long overdue attention to the creatures. Pangolin Kulu's journey, follows a baby pangolin as he journeys back to the wild after being rescued from poachers.

Speaker 124 I don't know.

Speaker 46 It just doesn't sit well with me.

Speaker 138 Like now, all of a sudden, the pangolin is some endangered species.

Speaker 212 I thought they were running around Asia spreading COVID all day long.

Speaker 22 I guess not.

Speaker 1 Pangolins.

Speaker 15 Okay. They are cute.

Speaker 14 So

Speaker 27 a little bit about Elon and Trump, which

Speaker 94 you can say I'm right anytime you want because it became a huge deal during the show

Speaker 77 on Thursday.

Speaker 66 It became the topic for at least 48 hours non-stop.

Speaker 56 Non-stop.

Speaker 165 You can say you're right, Adam, anytime.

Speaker 8 Well,

Speaker 1 I was always in agreement with the thesis that it was just bullcrap.

Speaker 44 You started off by saying it was boring and no one cares about it.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't. I'm not changing my mind about that.
It is boring.

Speaker 25 My presentation was long and uninteresting to you.

Speaker 1 It was long.

Speaker 86 Okay.

Speaker 207 You said it was uninteresting.

Speaker 22 No one was talking about it.

Speaker 126 It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 I never said no one was talking about it because

Speaker 81 all you have to say is, you're right, sir.

Speaker 1 You're right, sir.

Speaker 69 Okay, good.

Speaker 7 So to prove that we both were correct,

Speaker 165 that this is a game, this is WWE,

Speaker 12 this is something they agreed ahead of.

Speaker 1 The apprentice and his phony baloney. He did in the Apprentice.
He created Phony Feud.

Speaker 8 All of these, all of these things.

Speaker 94 It's all completely set.

Speaker 44 And by the way, Elon deleted

Speaker 45 his ex-post about Trump being in the Epstein files.

Speaker 56 Oh, really?

Speaker 44 Well, that's even if it was true and they had a real fight, that's weak.

Speaker 1 I want to interrupt, and somebody pointed this obviosity out that we should have caught to.

Speaker 1 If Trump was in the Epstein files,

Speaker 1 it would have been revealed during the election cycle.

Speaker 51 Oh, the Democrats would have used it.

Speaker 94 Instead, they had to make up Russia Gate.

Speaker 135 They had to make up Stormy Daniels, whether it was made up or not.

Speaker 26 They went after that.

Speaker 185 Of course, these files have been with the FBI since Trump's initial.

Speaker 215 When did Epstein not kill himself or did kill himself?

Speaker 14 I don't know.

Speaker 1 We've already lost track. Yeah.

Speaker 63 Cash Patel, by the way.

Speaker 8 I'll get to that in a minute.

Speaker 67 So Mike Johnson goes on ABC,

Speaker 129 and he screws up.

Speaker 8 He screws up.

Speaker 38 He gives it away.

Speaker 6 Well,

Speaker 1 the president suggested he could cut Musk's contracts.

Speaker 217 Obviously, Musk companies rely heavily on government contracts.

Speaker 6 Can he do that? Is that something he should consider?

Speaker 136 This is Jonathan Carl.

Speaker 105 Yes, I think it is Jonathan Carl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he is such a guy.

Speaker 8 He's your buddy.

Speaker 185 Oh, no, that's not your buddy.

Speaker 1 The other guy's yours. No, no, no, he's not my buddy.

Speaker 203 But listen to what Johnson says.

Speaker 140 He gives it away.

Speaker 217 Heavily on government contracts.

Speaker 6 Can he do that? Is that something he should consider?

Speaker 61 Look, I'm not going to get into the strategy of what happens with all of that. I mean, what I'm trying to

Speaker 14 the strategy?

Speaker 18 I'm not going to get into the strategy of all of that.

Speaker 8 What happens?

Speaker 45 In what case would you say that when it's about this feud, so-called feud?

Speaker 1 That's a very interesting catch.

Speaker 84 I'm not going to get into the strategy of all that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wouldn't have caught that.

Speaker 23 I heard it right away. I'm like, Johnson's

Speaker 49 strategy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 103 Obviously, he's awesome.

Speaker 1 You don't wouldn't use that word unless there was something going on. Exactly.

Speaker 217 Rely heavily on government contracts.

Speaker 6 Can he do that? Is that something he should consider?

Speaker 61 Look, I'm not going to get into the strategy of what happens with all of that.

Speaker 61 I mean, what I'm trying to do is make sure that all of this gets resolved quickly, that we get the one big beautiful bill done, and that hopefully

Speaker 61 these two Titans can reconcile. I think the president.

Speaker 1 Here's the other thing about that,

Speaker 1 not you bring it up.

Speaker 8 This stuttering.

Speaker 1 This guy is not a stutterer.

Speaker 113 No, it's his tell.

Speaker 62 It's his tell.

Speaker 1 It's a total tell, and he's stuttering like a madman because he knows something.

Speaker 1 He knows that this was set up as a strategy for whatever purpose, and he was unfamiliar, and he was, and he's nervous, and he's shaking like a leaf, basically.

Speaker 61 All that this gets resolved.

Speaker 61 We get the one big, beautiful bill done, and then hopefully

Speaker 61 these two Titans can reconcile.

Speaker 194 I think the president.

Speaker 24 And do you know how you can, I'm going to ask the troll room on this.

Speaker 97 And the listeners and producers in general.

Speaker 192 You know that this is phony.

Speaker 88 When John and I have a disagreement, just a disagreement, sometimes it gets a little heated.

Speaker 104 We go back and forth.

Speaker 30 Not like we've never gone to bed angry, but

Speaker 8 it can get heated.

Speaker 104 Mainly, it used to be really on my side.

Speaker 47 People will email,

Speaker 53 oh,

Speaker 23 oh, don't do that.

Speaker 28 You know, they'll be tweeting, mommy and daddy are fighting.

Speaker 67 Because they get uncomfortable by it.

Speaker 73 They feel very uncomfortable. I guarantee you, no one felt uncomfortable about this.

Speaker 67 No one felt like there was an actual friendly relationship, good friends who've been working together that they, that anyone felt like this was so real.

Speaker 88 Like, oh, I feel really uncomfortable about this.

Speaker 28 I don't think anyone felt that.

Speaker 1 That's a good point because nobody, I don't see any evidence that anyone felt that anything was going on other than it being an exaggerated news story.

Speaker 8 Well,

Speaker 8 back and forth.

Speaker 1 It was like a back and forth volley, like an exhibition tennis match. Yeah.
And the balls going back and forth and back and forth.

Speaker 1 And then with some end point inside, I think that this is going to kind of continue as a fake

Speaker 1 feud until after the midterms. This is, I think, a lot of this has to do with the midterms.

Speaker 110 Well, I mean, and

Speaker 24 now I'm like Mike Johnson.

Speaker 140 Here's the report about President Trump, who really sticks it out there.

Speaker 218 In the explosive feud playing out in public yesterday between Trump and Musk, the world's richest man warning Trump's tariffs will cause a recession this year.

Speaker 218 It's one of the many allegations Musk made about Trump, including posting on X, without me, Trump would have lost the election, adding such ingratitude.

Speaker 218 Musk also calling for Trump to be impeached and accusing Trump of being in the Jeffrey Epstein files. Musk providing no evidence to back up that claim.

Speaker 218 ABC's John Carl speaking with Trump on the phone this morning.

Speaker 219 There's been reporting out there that the White House is working to put together a call between Elon Musk and Donald Trump to broker some kind of peace. I asked Donald Trump about that.

Speaker 219 He said he's not particularly interested in talking to Elon Musk. He said Elon wants to talk to him.
He's not ready to talk to Musk, who he called a man who has lost his mind.

Speaker 49 Now that

Speaker 1 the little element there that I think is important is the Elon dropping the impeachment word out there, because that has to be in play.

Speaker 1 It has to be impressed upon the Republican voters who never come out for the midterms. who would just as soon let the whole Congress slip back to the Democrats.

Speaker 1 They have to have it in play that if the Democrats get Congress, the first thing they're going to do is impeach Trump again.

Speaker 110 Now, the thing that was

Speaker 56 just disappointing is all of the right-wing, alt-right, alternative media, all the podcasters all are saying, well, this is what it was all about.

Speaker 81 And Ben Shapiro, Ben Shapiro says, oh, you know, it was really because Trump

Speaker 67 wouldn't accept Elon's suggestion for NASA administrator.

Speaker 38 And there's more.

Speaker 175 Like, I think Megan Kelly, you know, it's like, come on.

Speaker 20 This is stupid.

Speaker 88 The fact that they are, that Ben Shapiro is falling for this, unless he's been read in on it, that's very possible, but I don't think so.

Speaker 1 No, that's a, you know, just possible that more than one of the right-wing broadcasters have been read in and just said, go along with it.

Speaker 165 We'll deal with it later.

Speaker 14 It's possible.

Speaker 72 We've been

Speaker 72 doing it.

Speaker 1 read in on anything. I should mention this.

Speaker 1 We don't get read in. We don't know anything.
We are just pure analysts.

Speaker 72 We don't know nothing.

Speaker 1 We don't know nothing. You can't put anything on us.

Speaker 1 You can't put us in a torture wreck.

Speaker 32 We can't tell you anything.

Speaker 73 Okay, so this brings me to a portion of a note that I got from one of our knights.

Speaker 71 And,

Speaker 109 you know, because we've been deconstructing a little bit of the podcasts, which is how people are getting their media.

Speaker 70 Our people are getting their media.

Speaker 137 And

Speaker 105 here's an excerpt from our night's email, which

Speaker 101 I really appreciate you said this, but I have thoughts.

Speaker 203 It has occurred to me to wonder if moving towards including podcast content in the show might alienate listeners.

Speaker 14 In recent months, No Agenda has analyzed clips from three podcasts that I listen to and have highly favorable thoughts about and feel loyalty towards.

Speaker 70 One aspect of the No Agenda humor is the disparaging tone used when analyzing media.

Speaker 78 This works well for me as a listener because I realize what junk the M5M has become, and so I enjoy it.

Speaker 88 It is uncomfortable to hear someone you admire and respect go after someone else you admire and respect in that tone.

Speaker 103 So

Speaker 81 this is important.

Speaker 47 Because we have always, not that we're always right, we have always said what we think and we believe.

Speaker 72 We're not read in, we don't know nothing, we're just analyzing media because we've grown up.

Speaker 66 I literally grew up with it and you've been in it longer than most people can, can remember.

Speaker 62 And we have never, never

Speaker 196 thought, oh, let's not mention this.

Speaker 112 This might piss off our listeners, which it has.

Speaker 17 COVID in the beginning, people were livid.

Speaker 111 COVID in the middle, people were livid about the menstrual when we looked at the numbers.

Speaker 17 That's not true. You're full of crap.
You can't read me.

Speaker 8 Ukraine, right away, right away.

Speaker 118 We said,

Speaker 14 this is a psyop.

Speaker 113 Here's how it started.

Speaker 14 People in Texas were mad at me because people in Texas had Ukraine flags out.

Speaker 72 By the way, no longer.

Speaker 1 For them, finally getting a clue.

Speaker 8 You know, when we give our view, our opinion, our historical knowledge, and our research about

Speaker 94 Israel, and no, we do not believe that Israel controls the entire U.S.

Speaker 7 government, people get pissed off.

Speaker 120 Yeah, why do people want the government to be?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 it's beyond me, but okay, continue on.

Speaker 82 Well, because people want to make sense of their world.

Speaker 104 And when things happen that they feel doesn't make sense,

Speaker 8 it's

Speaker 88 you know, and then you've got to listen. When you go to the podcasters who are saying this is true,

Speaker 158 and that, you know, and they respect those podcasters, and we say no, it makes them feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 110 Well, let me put it to you this way: if you go through an entire no agenda episode and you haven't felt uncomfortable once, you should probably consider going somewhere else

Speaker 177 because you should feel uncomfortable from time to time.

Speaker 107 But what, what job are we doing?

Speaker 38 That's called audience capture,

Speaker 140 which we get accused of all the time.

Speaker 53 We do?

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 56 Oh, yeah, of course.

Speaker 120 How does that go?

Speaker 148 They're only saying this for the people who send them money.

Speaker 120 Saying what?

Speaker 1 For the people who send them money.

Speaker 17 Oh, they're not talking against the Jews because they get all that

Speaker 197 money.

Speaker 1 It's always about the Jews.

Speaker 114 Not often.

Speaker 12 It's been other things in the past.

Speaker 177 Dude, I even saw a donation come in today.

Speaker 6 Here.

Speaker 88 I'm going to read it ahead.

Speaker 24 Ross Johnson, nighting donation.

Speaker 74 I haven't donated in years because Adam hated Elon.

Speaker 73 Because, no, because of Adam's Elon hatred.

Speaker 141 Obviously, he's been short-selling for years.

Speaker 51 Adam flips like a fish out of water.

Speaker 161 Adam flips out like a fish out of water because of facts on X.

Speaker 13 What?

Speaker 62 Since when did I flip on Elon?

Speaker 126 I've always said the same thing.

Speaker 215 All I'm saying is I don't believe that Elon and Palantir are all going to take over the world with their AI.

Speaker 115 Grok, like all other AI, is a piece of crap.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, I don't have a clip, but the story about the 700 Indians posing as AI.

Speaker 104 Yeah, I've had this story for four shows, and we've never, I almost

Speaker 174 got to it two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 Microsoft invested $1.5 billion down the drain with these fakes. Yeah, too funny.

Speaker 78 So you'd send off, like, I want some code to do this, and the Indian, the anonymous Indian in the back, they were all coding it up.

Speaker 126 And

Speaker 24 there was not a single,

Speaker 138 not a single piece of AI was actually doing it.

Speaker 23 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 95 Which brings me to this clip.

Speaker 127 Calling to mind an army of robots from the sci-fi movie iRobot, leading AI firm Anthropic CEO Dario Amade, warned of a labor market bloodbath caused by artificial intelligence that could wipe out half of all entry-level white-collar jobs within five years.

Speaker 23 Good.

Speaker 221 And there's a little bit of truth in what he's saying, but there's a lot of exaggeration, too.

Speaker 127 Taming Silicon Valley author and AI expert Gary Marcus is skeptical.

Speaker 221 Entry-level workers probably are the most affected, but most white-collar jobs aren't going anywhere that soon.

Speaker 127 In a memo shared by Shopify CEO Toby Lutka in April, he said before asking to increase headcount, teams must demonstrate why they can't get what they want done by AI.

Speaker 221 Businesses are using AI as an excuse because they want to cut employees, and so they use it as a cover.

Speaker 127 Mounting evidence of a phenomenon that's hard to track: of jobs quietly disappearing because of AI.

Speaker 104 By the way, did you see that story about the 700 anonymous Indians masking as an AI company?

Speaker 94 Was that really big on CNBC?

Speaker 165 Were they really like all over that, like hawks?

Speaker 212 Like, wow, I can't believe Microsoft got scammed on this one.

Speaker 24 I don't think so.

Speaker 125 Because they want you to buy, buy, buy, buy.

Speaker 23 If the AI bubble pops, there's going to be blood on the moon.

Speaker 1 Well, because of the amount of money and the

Speaker 1 capitalization and the rest of it. Yes.

Speaker 112 Canada began.

Speaker 1 It's not going to pop anytime soon, by the way.

Speaker 87 Well, no, because they'll obfuscate all of that.

Speaker 67 Here's, so I truly believe because of the AI hype, there will be more jobs than ever.

Speaker 24 I've had a lot of experience in the past three months with AI and coding as a non-coder.

Speaker 60 It is atrocious.

Speaker 74 But if you're a coder, you can certainly use, like, as in you, so I don't want to say coder.

Speaker 12 If you're a software engineer, you can certainly use.

Speaker 62 Yeah, I don't like coder.

Speaker 173 You can certainly use

Speaker 75 the large language models to check syntax and to save you some time on things.

Speaker 118 But, and yes, of course, you can say, hey, build me a check-in script.

Speaker 52 So when people come to the front desk, they put their, yeah, of course, it can do that.

Speaker 8 All right.

Speaker 58 You don't need to employ a full-time employee to do those types of things necessarily.

Speaker 179 But I've talked to enough dudes named Ben and dudettes named Bernadette who say, no, no, this is, it's not, you cannot put this in the hands of mere mortals.

Speaker 88 It doesn't do the job.

Speaker 32 The only thing we have to be worried about with AI is people's loneliness.

Speaker 161 It was actually Rolling Stone of

Speaker 85 all publications.

Speaker 181 I did not expect this from them.

Speaker 75 People are losing loved ones to AI-fueled spiritual fantasies.

Speaker 88 People are moving towards artificial intelligence, i.e.

Speaker 60 chat bots, let's just call it what it is.

Speaker 203 because they're lonely and they want to have interactions.

Speaker 75 And these interactions with men, of course, frequently lead to sexual fantasies.

Speaker 70 And, you know, it's no different than

Speaker 73 the 900 lines back in the 80s.

Speaker 47 You'd think that you were talking to some hot, hot chick, and people were paying $2 to $5 a minute.

Speaker 1 It was a lot.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 179 People were losing their mortgage money and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 119 And so people are turning to chat bots to alleviate their loneliness.

Speaker 1 Actually, it's the same. Now, I should mention, I never thought about this because I forgot about those 900 lines.
And they always had a lot of advertising on TV.

Speaker 64 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 8 Oh, all the time. Back in the day.

Speaker 1 It all just disappeared kind of overnight when people started.

Speaker 88 When the internet came along.

Speaker 103 Well,

Speaker 1 I think there was more of the abuse of people, they would. just get one of these 900 number lines and it wasn't for chatting, but they'd use it for customer service.

Speaker 1 And would and people would say be put on hold and they didn't know they were on a 900 line that was charging them $2 an hour and they get these huge phone bills.

Speaker 1 I remember thinking people talking about look at this $5,000 phone bill and they'd go on and bitching about the phone bills and that became a lot of bad publicity and I think the whole thing died off because of that more than the internet.

Speaker 72 Well the internet didn't help.

Speaker 1 Well, no, of course it's not. The internet didn't help anything.

Speaker 78 But, you know, I've so I when I went to the NRB, the National Religious Broadcasters Conference, there was this company.

Speaker 177 I don't want to mention the company because

Speaker 137 it doesn't matter.

Speaker 181 But they were selling artificial intelligence

Speaker 97 pastors, basically.

Speaker 8 I don't think they called it that.

Speaker 88 But you put this chat bot on your website and their testimony was, well, people will tell their intimate

Speaker 1 thoughts and spiritual issues to a chat bot sooner than they would say it to a pastor.

Speaker 222 And the danger in all this, of course, is that

Speaker 192 you need human connection with people.

Speaker 88 And this is being,

Speaker 76 this is the absolute danger of artificial intelligence is the parlor trick, the chat bot.

Speaker 113 And in fact, one of our producers sent me a,

Speaker 74 and Meta is way ahead of everybody.

Speaker 111 And they're smart because instead of trying to, you know, make a large language model that can program code for you any app you want in the world, they're creating bots, engagement bots.

Speaker 75 So one of our producers sent me a Facebook, a screenshot of a Facebook chat group for the Lake Elizabeth families.

Speaker 24 So Lake Elizabeth small community, they have a little Facebook group.

Speaker 112 And all of a sudden, Lizzie pops up.

Speaker 27 And Lizzie is a cute little robot, looks like a robot, you know, about the size of a, I don't know, the size of a small doll.

Speaker 46 Hi there, I'm Lizzie.

Speaker 7 The group's AI.

Speaker 135 I'm a resource here to help you and the group.

Speaker 203 You might start seeing me comment on posts if I can find relevant past content so you don't have to dig.

Speaker 161 And posts to help you catch up on group activity or even get a conversation going.

Speaker 7 Like, this is bad.

Speaker 85 Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This. Well, it's bad from one perspective, but it's effective.

Speaker 35 Yes, it's effective.

Speaker 172 And people

Speaker 47 are very just, I mean, this is your dead internet happening as it takes place.

Speaker 172 And by the way, the most underreported story from two weeks ago regarding AI.

Speaker 224 Today it's my honor to officially sign the Take It Down Act into law.

Speaker 225 It's a big thing, very important, so horrible what takes place.

Speaker 224 This will be the first ever federal law to combat the distribution of explicit, imaginary posted without subjects' consent.

Speaker 224 They take horrible pictures, and I guess sometimes even make up the pictures, and they post it without consent or anything else.

Speaker 197 And very importantly, this includes for forgeries generated by artificial intelligence known as deep fakes. We've all heard about deepfakes.
I have them all the time, but nobody does anything.

Speaker 197 I asked Pam, can you help me, Pam? She says, no, I'm too busy. Too busy doing other things.

Speaker 145 Don't worry, you'll survive.

Speaker 197 But a lot of people don't survive. That's true, and it's so horrible.

Speaker 197 With the rise of AI image generation, countless women have been harassed with deepfakes and other explicit images distributed against their will.

Speaker 226 This is the wrong, and it's just so horribly wrong.

Speaker 197 And it's a very abusive situation, like in some cases, people have never seen before. And today we're making it totally illegal.

Speaker 141 So, of course, the news media did nothing with this.

Speaker 1 No, there was no reporting on on this whatsoever.

Speaker 1 None. For several reasons.

Speaker 24 One, it's about AI, and we all think the memes are funny.

Speaker 75 Two, it is a project spearheaded entirely by the first lady, Melania Trump.

Speaker 77 So we can't give her any props for anything.

Speaker 123 But here is the funniest part of it.

Speaker 29 So I go to the Library of Congress to read the bill.

Speaker 47 Like, that's what I do.

Speaker 109 And so this is about artificial intelligence, because that's what makes these things,

Speaker 185 creating

Speaker 44 really, you know, horrible images, you know, of Taylor Swift.

Speaker 109 Well, kids are doing it on their classmates.

Speaker 24 And

Speaker 1 yeah, this is disgusting. Yeah, it's kids are the worst.

Speaker 16 But it's about AI.

Speaker 173 And I'm reading the summary.

Speaker 51 The summary is generated by AI.

Speaker 13 Listen to this.

Speaker 196 This bill generally prohibits the non-consensual online publication of intimate visual depictions of individuals, both authentic and computer generated, and requires certain online platforms to promptly remove such depictions upon receiving notice of their existence.

Speaker 73 Specifically, the bill prohibits the online publication of intimate visual depictions of an adult subject.

Speaker 29 When you start off by saying this bill generally prohibits, generally, I've never seen that in the Library of Congress.

Speaker 88 Never.

Speaker 112 Separately, covered platforms must establish a process through which subjects of intimate visual depictions may notify the platform of the existence of and request removal of an intimate visual depiction, including the subject that was published without the subject's consent.

Speaker 195 I'm telling you, this is a ChatGPT summary.

Speaker 186 I've read enough of them.

Speaker 97 It's just, it's hilarious.

Speaker 1 Well, that's ironic.

Speaker 29 So it's very interesting because

Speaker 8 the specifics

Speaker 73 are intimate visual depictions of an adult subject where publication is intended to cause or does harm or does cause harm to the subject where the depiction was published without the subject's consent or in the case of an authentic depiction was created or obtained under circumstances where the adult had a reasonable expectation of privacy, Glenn Greenwald, or a minor subject where publication is intended to abuse or harass the minor or to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.

Speaker 34 This is a pretty broad bill.

Speaker 220 And

Speaker 162 I guess covered platforms must remove such depictions within 48 hours of notification.

Speaker 113 Under the bill, covered platforms are defined as public websites, online services, or applications that primarily provide a forum for user-generated content.

Speaker 207 You know, like our end-of-show mixes, user-generated content.

Speaker 64 So

Speaker 14 no coverage of this whatsoever.

Speaker 162 No coverage.

Speaker 172 And I think that's a pretty big deal.

Speaker 1 It's the editors. The editors of the major news outlets are no good.

Speaker 1 They're the ones who do the headlines that are misleading. Yeah.
The editors write headlines. People in the business know this.
Once in a while you can get a headline through, but rarely.

Speaker 40 The editors are, oh, I got a better headline than that.

Speaker 1 And they're the ones who, who assign stories, and they're the ones who promote stories into meetings and say, we're going to cover this, we're going to cover that, we're not going to cover this, and we're not going to cover that.

Speaker 1 It's the editors of America.

Speaker 172 You remember

Speaker 14 Marjorie Taylor Greene, who said, well, if I'd known that was in the bill, I wouldn't have voted for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she got suckered.

Speaker 146 Yeah, she did.

Speaker 192 Well, here's the details about this 10-year AI regulation ban on the states.

Speaker 130 There is a section in the Big Beautiful bill that would move to update federal government systems with the help of AI. So, what could this mean on a state level? Our sources to answer this: the U.S.

Speaker 130 Congress, Catawba College political professor Michael Bitzer, and the National Conference of State Legislatures. The Big Beautiful bill outlines the initiative in section 43201.

Speaker 130 It would grant $500 million over the next 10 years to, quote, modernize and secure federal information technology systems.

Speaker 130 But the bill would also ban state-led AI regulations and block dozens of states from enforcing pre-existing rulings.

Speaker 228 So, anytime the federal government tells the states what they can and cannot do, that's a component of federalism. Now, oftentimes, that might get challenged in court by various states.

Speaker 130 Right now, there is no centralized federal oversight of AI, leaving states to navigate the ever-changing technology on their own.

Speaker 130 This type of regulation is something the federal government has done for decades. One example is raising the drinking age.

Speaker 228 The reason that we have a drinking age of 21 was federal legislation.

Speaker 228 Back in the 1980s, the federal government said, states, if you want federal highway funds for your interstate highways, you have to raise your drinking age from 18 to 21.

Speaker 130 When it comes to how individual states can respond?

Speaker 228 Well, states can go into court and certainly challenge any federal policy that they disagree with. And so this may be the ultimate

Speaker 228 inroad. If this does get passed within this legislation, some states may say, you know, we want the power to be able to oversee AI in our borders.
We're going to challenge this in federal court.

Speaker 203 Yeah, it's going to be a question of, oh, you don't like it?

Speaker 88 No money for you.

Speaker 177 And I think the states should have the right to regulate that however they want to.

Speaker 1 I have mixed feelings about it. I don't like the idea of

Speaker 1 certain situations where you have one state saying one thing, another state saying another, and it becomes a problem because of the, especially anything regarding AI, which is

Speaker 1 intimately connected to the internet, which is just, which goes

Speaker 1 beyond state lines.

Speaker 62 Yes.

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Marjorie Taylor Greene would not have voted for it if she knew that was in there.

Speaker 32 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 74 Can I just take us down a quick path of NATO and

Speaker 73 Zelensky and the drones?

Speaker 177 Because it's interesting what's happening here.

Speaker 88 Then it starts.

Speaker 1 I have clips, if I could follow up with you after you're done.

Speaker 69 I have some clips on this.

Speaker 179 So right now we're

Speaker 152 in a situation where the

Speaker 173 ministers,

Speaker 108 the defense ministers in the EU, well, NATO, really, but let's just say it's the EU.

Speaker 73 They are talking about the 5% that, quite honestly, President Trump is demanding from them to buy our military gear.

Speaker 95 And so let's listen first to the Swedish Minister of Defense.

Speaker 184 NATO needs to achieve a strong ability to deter and defend. We take note of Russia right now being bogged down in and around Ukraine.

Speaker 184 It hasn't been successful so far, but we also know after an armistice or a peace agreement, of course, Russia is going to allocate more forces closer to our vicinity therefore it's extremely important that the alliance use these couple of years now when Russia is still limited by its force postures in and around Ukraine and also that it has been weakened by the war that we do a historic build-up on on our armed forces I do want to convey that this is a historic moment for Europe if we are able to reach five percent by twenty thirty or twenty thirty two, we're going to go up to a defense investment that was at the height of the Cold War and it's necessary for us to strengthen our ability to default and defend and continue living in peace.

Speaker 65 Okay, Sweden's in for 5%.

Speaker 18 Let's go to Lithuania.

Speaker 109 This is Paul John.

Speaker 195 No, that was Paul Johnson.

Speaker 70 This is

Speaker 222 what's her name here?

Speaker 88 Dovil Sakhlin, the Minister of

Speaker 97 I'm sure I got that wrong.

Speaker 203 She's the Minister of Defense for Lithuania.

Speaker 14 NATO needs to

Speaker 14 be a very good question.

Speaker 229 yesterday it was just, you know, informal meetings about that, but today we are going to have a real discussion.

Speaker 229 So, my question to my colleagues is that if we all trust our intelligence, if we trust NATO military intelligence, and they say that it's just a few years until Russia is going to be able to test NATO, then what are we going to do?

Speaker 229 Ask them for extension, ask them to delay the deadline? This is not going to happen. So, therefore, I'd like to hear the answers.
What is then their plan?

Speaker 8 Translation: if we don't do it and russia attacks we're going to say hold on we don't we got to get the money uh very smart miss from lithuania but it was ruta short clip

Speaker 47 who gave it away

Speaker 7 when i heard him i'm like okay i see what's going on here uh he he was asked a question at this minister's summit he's always there by the way

Speaker 173 Look, I'm just going to say maybe he has a cold, but he is touching and rubbing and sniffing his nose is like that. I've never seen him do this, but he now answers a question.

Speaker 1 Even you spotted it.

Speaker 77 Yeah, and I'm not the guy who spots that.

Speaker 113 You're usually the guy who spots that.

Speaker 26 And now,

Speaker 181 Dave Ackerman, who sent me this clip, he always sends me the

Speaker 203 YouTube videos of France 24 and stuff, and I clip whatever I want.

Speaker 73 He now calls him White Lines Ritz.

Speaker 62 And so Whitelines is talking about hybrid warfare.

Speaker 155 Hybrid.

Speaker 8 Ah, this is something new.

Speaker 208 Two things.

Speaker 92 First, when we discuss hybrid, that we realize that that is basically an umbrella for sometimes an assassination attempt on the CEO of a big company, sometimes the jamming of commercial airplanes in parts of NATO airspace,

Speaker 3 sometimes even cyber attacks.

Speaker 92 For example, and I mentioned that before, the example you know at the National Health Service in the United Kingdom.

Speaker 208 So we have seen this.

Speaker 92 We have seen the Skip Paul case in twenty eighteen, March 2018,

Speaker 92 in the UK,

Speaker 46 which was of course also an assassination attempt.

Speaker 92 So

Speaker 89 these issues

Speaker 92 we really have to consider that this is next to the traditional warfare is increasing, that we have to know what is happening, that we have to know how we can make sure that those doing this, if this is Russians or whoever are behind this, that we not only notice but that we don't accept it and that we will find ways to make sure it stops.

Speaker 92 And that is what the hybrid strategy is all about.

Speaker 94 Yeah, the hybrid strategy, the only thing he didn't mention is the drones, because that has been the change.

Speaker 28 This

Speaker 216 Operation Spiderweb from Ukraine against Russia, I think, was a big promotional push.

Speaker 215 And we'll just a little background.

Speaker 108 You heard it in your news overview from ABC.

Speaker 34 Here's Martha Raditz with the president of Ukraine, the dancing Vladimir Zelensky.

Speaker 198 Let's talk about Operation Spider Web.

Speaker 213 Please.

Speaker 230 So you believe you did destroy maybe 40 aircraft. Others say maybe 10 to 20.
How many did you destroy?

Speaker 8 We think, we think, we think, and we have our analytics that we destroyed 34% of the strategic air jets.

Speaker 230 President Zelensky describing the operation as complicated and clandestine. 18 months in the making so secretive not even the U.S.

Speaker 85 was informed.

Speaker 231 We have to prepare such glass.

Speaker 182 By the way, bull crap.

Speaker 33 I agree with you.

Speaker 3 Bullcrap. Bullcrap.

Speaker 33 There's no way we were informed.

Speaker 8 Bull crap.

Speaker 1 It was just a plausible deniability bullcrap.

Speaker 230 Making so secretive not even the U.S.

Speaker 47 was informed.

Speaker 231 We have to prepare such glass.

Speaker 210 And we are not stopping.

Speaker 1 We have to prepare such blasts.

Speaker 72 Because Russia can't because we don't know, we don't really know if they will stop this war.

Speaker 119 They don't want.

Speaker 92 They don't want to stop the war.

Speaker 162 This is the problem.

Speaker 230 The key to the plan, Ukrainian drones just like these which the president's office arranged for us to see this weekend, simple yet deadly, packed with an explosive unit.

Speaker 230 This is one of many drone production facilities across Ukraine, spread out across the country. We can't tell you exactly where we are because obviously these facilities are Russia targets.

Speaker 186 Okay, so obviously it's very secret of what she's doing and everything there.

Speaker 52 Let's just get a little more background on Operation Spiderweb.

Speaker 230 The 100 drones used in Operation Spiderweb were smuggled into Russia, hidden in containers with remotely controlled, retractable roofs.

Speaker 230 The drones had all been concealed on trucks with Russian drivers unknowingly delivering the payload.

Speaker 62 They didn't know anything.

Speaker 143 They didn't know what will be in the roofs. They didn't know just when it will, when, because they didn't know what will be.
That's why they

Speaker 62 didn't know when it will be and where.

Speaker 213 So

Speaker 213 this is, I think, this is important,

Speaker 6 very important.

Speaker 230 And those drones and the Ukrainian pilots guiding them, knowing the Russian aircraft's most vulnerable spot where the fuel is held, after examining old Soviet aircraft still in Ukraine and on display.

Speaker 49 And And we have heard that they knew what parts of that airplane to hit

Speaker 230 because you have airplanes here in museums.

Speaker 21 Yes.

Speaker 213 They knew exactly where to hit.

Speaker 231 And they did it exactly what was in their idea step by step. They did

Speaker 143 very clear this operation.

Speaker 72 Okay, so now let's talk about this operation.

Speaker 111 Let's talk about this operation.

Speaker 76 From a podcast, Preston Stewart,

Speaker 216 and I'm not going to poop on on Preston.

Speaker 47 No pooping on Preston.

Speaker 109 He had

Speaker 173 Yevgen Karas, the commander of Ukraine's 413th Unmanned Systems Forces Battalion on the podcast about the drones. And I mean,

Speaker 76 the whole podcast, like 40 minutes is great.

Speaker 186 It's in the show notes.

Speaker 76 This guy talks about the drones, about how fancy, you know, they get,

Speaker 77 if they create a drone configuration that kills Russians, they get a bonus.

Speaker 88 I mean, it's like a game.

Speaker 104 It's literally like a video game.

Speaker 173 But then, you got to kind of get into, because he's a Ukrainian speaking English, listen to what he says about where the drones came from.

Speaker 232 Some companies start moving. So

Speaker 54 I think

Speaker 232 many countries, many companies, they want to bring their weapons here.

Speaker 233 They have to

Speaker 233 clarify, is it working?

Speaker 140 Many companies for many countries want to bring their weapons here to, he says, clarify, in other words, to verify, certify that their weapons are working.

Speaker 1 To test market.

Speaker 215 To test market, thank you.

Speaker 232 Many countries, many companies, they want to bring their weapons here to be uh clarify is it working and uh they use it like assistance to Ukraine.

Speaker 54 Uh

Speaker 232 some drones we buy from the government, uh some drones still now uh

Speaker 232 sent it to Ukraine as a gift. I know some very rich guys, uh especially now.

Speaker 233 One American guy doing very big uh gifts to Ukraine, army.

Speaker 203 One big rich American guy sending drones to the UK, the Ukraine army.

Speaker 233 Really? He really

Speaker 232 saved many of our lives because he do his job well. And his drone is not so expensive.

Speaker 95 His drones are cheap.

Speaker 123 He sends them to us for free to go test market them.

Speaker 124 And then right on queue, the Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 135 I'd never heard of the JCU.

Speaker 66 Remember, we heard that guy, the lieutenant colonel, the propagandist about

Speaker 23 drone warfare.

Speaker 94 Oh, we're not ready. We got to get ready.
We got to get ready for the drones.

Speaker 17 Well, the Wall Street Journal did a report on the JCU drone anti-drone warfare and how they're training our troops.

Speaker 234 The U.S. military has launched a new school to train American armed forces in how to counter the emerging threat of drones, or what it calls Unmanned Aircraft Systems, or UAS.

Speaker 234 The first academy of its kind, the Joint Counter-Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems University, or JCU, will train about 1,000 troops a year.

Speaker 235 Warfare is changing very fast.

Speaker 149 This threat right here, this current threat with respect to UAS,

Speaker 235 it's the pace of your phone changing.

Speaker 234 This footage is from a Ukrainian drone attack carried out against Russian forces. And this video is from a Hamas drone attack in November carried out against Israeli forces in Gaza.

Speaker 234 The proliferation of small, cheap, commercially available drones is transforming modern warfare. And this has not been lost on the Pentagon.
Colonel Mosef Sauda is the director of the JCU.

Speaker 186 The pace of the need is outgrowing capacity right now.

Speaker 235 So we're trying to train as many people as possible and trying to grow as fast as possible to fit that need.

Speaker 236 Today, students at Fort Sill are training on weapon systems to counter small unmanned aircraft.

Speaker 234 The students are also learning how to use another handheld system, the drone buster.

Speaker 153 Whereas the smart shooter utilizes the 5.56 round, this is known known as an electronic attack system.

Speaker 153 So the soldier is taking this here and they're pointing in a general direction of the target that they see.

Speaker 153 And then the soldier replacement operation utilizes various jamming means to interdict that target.

Speaker 77 10-minute video on the anti-drone warfare.

Speaker 213 President Trump.

Speaker 73 This came in two days ago.

Speaker 14 President Trump orders restrictions slashed on U.S. drones.

Speaker 21 Executive orders give local law enforcement more power to take down rogue drones.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 136 Well, isn't that interesting?

Speaker 27 This thing was a

Speaker 62 sales video.

Speaker 118 The sales video for not just the drone industry, but according to a producer, Boots on the Ground, I am familiar with internal discussion, says our, of course, anonymous source familiar with the matter.

Speaker 181 I just listened to your Iron Dome versus Golden Dome presentation on episode 1770 at the 48-minute 30-second mark.

Speaker 203 You are correct in your concept, but incorrect in your nomenclature.

Speaker 172 Iron Dome is out.

Speaker 23 There is only golden dome.

Speaker 73 Golden Dome is very broad.

Speaker 110 Multiple layers, sea, land, air, space, cyber.

Speaker 203 That should draw a better picture of the context of the concept's correct nomenclature.

Speaker 73 The golden dome will be against drones.

Speaker 177 It is the boondoggle of all boondoggles that President Trump is launching here for the military-industrial complex.

Speaker 58 Huge boondoggle.

Speaker 1 Name a military-industrial complex thing ever that's not a boondoggle. Right, but besides World War II.

Speaker 8 But when you, yeah,

Speaker 173 but when you throw in the drones,

Speaker 43 hybrid, baby.

Speaker 7 It's this is what Ritter is. Rita is the sale.

Speaker 52 He's the brown shoes.

Speaker 119 Hybrid. Oh, it's hybrid.

Speaker 203 We got to have golden dome against poisoning people, golden dome against shooting executives, golden dome against cyber, golden dome against

Speaker 73 drones.

Speaker 203 By the way, listen again, because you didn't catch it, to the Swedish defense minister, what the Swedish Defense Minister says. And this is someone who's in the conversations about Ukraine and Russia.

Speaker 229 Well, yesterday it was just, you know, informal meetings about that, but today we're going to have a real discussion.

Speaker 229 So my question to my colleagues is that if we all trust our intelligence, if we trust NATO military intelligence, and they say that it's just a few years until Russia is going to be able to test NATO, then what are we going to do?

Speaker 229 Ask them for extension, ask them to shoot.

Speaker 8 Where is this?

Speaker 229 To delay the deadline? This is not going to happen. So therefore, I'd like to hear the answers.

Speaker 8 What is that?

Speaker 85 Ah, crap.

Speaker 156 Oh, crap. I cut it out.

Speaker 52 My best part. I did it.

Speaker 1 Well, that's why I didn't spot it. Yes.

Speaker 95 She said armistice.

Speaker 191 Whether there's going to be a peace or an armistice.

Speaker 58 Crap. I'm sorry.
I blew that one.

Speaker 1 Yes, and you were accusatory.

Speaker 97 Yes.

Speaker 73 No,

Speaker 58 I thought I was slim and sly.

Speaker 203 She mentioned armistice. It's going to be an armistice.

Speaker 108 There will never be a peace. It will be an armistice.

Speaker 174 After the big NATO summit meeting, after everybody is, all the defense ministers have agreed, they all sign their checks.

Speaker 212 It's all going to come in.

Speaker 72 There's going to be one big golden dome over America and probably over Europe.

Speaker 172 Oh, golden. It's going to be beautiful.

Speaker 69 A beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 Let's go meta on this whole thing and say that the Russians are in on this.

Speaker 107 Well, here is.

Speaker 1 And let's say that the Russians had a bunch of bombers they needed to get rid of because they got to, you know, these are old dogs.

Speaker 1 And let's let them blow them up and we can start up our industrial complex and make some extra money for the public.

Speaker 109 Whatever they just blew up has to be built again.

Speaker 19 Bigger, better.

Speaker 172 Oh, yeah. No, I.

Speaker 15 War is a rocket.

Speaker 21 This whole thing.

Speaker 52 And unfortunately.

Speaker 120 Because, you know, they blow up all these,

Speaker 1 there's five bases that were attacked, it seems, in the last analysis. And so they blow up all these Russian bombers.
And the Russians don't make a bigger fuss than they did.

Speaker 1 They throw a few more drones and almost killed somebody.

Speaker 203 Did you see President?

Speaker 179 I'm in agreement with you.

Speaker 203 Did you see President Trump with Mr.

Speaker 191 Peepers?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did.

Speaker 75 Listen to these short clips.

Speaker 238 I'd love to have that. I'd like it to start.
Right now, we would leave a a room.

Speaker 186 This is President Trump talking about peace between Russia and Ukraine.

Speaker 238 I'd love to have that. I'd like it to start.
Right now, we would leave a room. If we knew the work of that,

Speaker 238 we'd say, forget about you guys,

Speaker 238 forget about trade, right? We'd say, let's go settle it.

Speaker 238 There's some additional fighting that's going to go on. You know,

Speaker 238 he attacked, and they attacked pretty harshly. They went deep into Russia.

Speaker 238 And he actually told me, I mean, I made it very clear. He said, we have no choice but to attack based on that.
And it's probably not going to be pretty. I don't like it.
I said, don't do it.

Speaker 238 You shouldn't do it. You should stop it.

Speaker 238 But again, there's a lot of hatred.

Speaker 203 Yeah, President Trump's saying it's going to go on for a little bit longer.

Speaker 118 And then Peepers pipes up

Speaker 8 and says something very interesting.

Speaker 238 We get satellite pictures of the warfield,

Speaker 238 and you don't even like to look at it, right? It's so

Speaker 238 bodies, arms, heads,

Speaker 238 legs all over the place. You've never seen anything like it.
It's so ridiculous. And this is only by Russian weapons against Ukraine.

Speaker 148 Notice what he said.

Speaker 7 Oh no, there's only Russian weapons against Ukraine that blow up the people.

Speaker 212 That is not happening anywhere else.

Speaker 89 Legs all over the place.

Speaker 238 You've never seen anything like it. It's so ridiculous.
And this is only by Russian weapons against Ukraine.

Speaker 239 This had never happened with Ukraine weapons against Russia.

Speaker 7 Never happened with Ukraine weapons against Russia.

Speaker 203 You mean those drones that come in and fly, and the poor Russian soldiers running around, and the drone just blows up on him?

Speaker 180 That didn't happen.

Speaker 73 Okay, Trump calls him out on just a little bit.

Speaker 174 Never.

Speaker 239 Ukraine is only targeting military targets, not civilians, not private,

Speaker 238 not energy infrastructure. So this is the difference, and that's the reason why we are trying to do more on Russia, how to stop this war.

Speaker 238 Well, in this case, I'm talking about the battlefield, you know, the soldiers on soldiers. But you could also say that, too, with the cities.
The cities are being hit also.

Speaker 238 So it's a terrible, terrible thing, right?

Speaker 8 Terrible time.

Speaker 1 Oh, you had to course correct.

Speaker 140 That's interesting.

Speaker 68 Yeah, because Peepers like...

Speaker 21 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Mr. Peepers is an idiot.

Speaker 104 Yeah.

Speaker 52 And then Trump says something very interesting, which, of course, didn't get play.

Speaker 73 But now that I think about it, yeah, that did kind of die down pretty quick.

Speaker 238 And, you know, I'm very proud of the fact that with India and Pakistan, I was able to stop that. And those are nuclear powers.
And that would have really, that was getting close to being out of hand.

Speaker 238 And

Speaker 238 I spoke to some very talented people on both sides, very good people on both sides. And I said, you know, we're dealing with you and trade, Pakistan and India, right now.

Speaker 238 I said, we're not going to deal with you and trade if you're going to go shooting each other and whipping out nuclear weapons that maybe even affect us, because you know that nuclear dust blows across oceans very quickly, it affects us.

Speaker 238 And I said, if you're going to do that, we're not going to do any trade deals. And you know what? I got that war stopped.

Speaker 238 Now, I hope we don't go back and we find out that they signed it, but I don't think they will. They were both good.
They were well represented. I want to congratulate both countries.

Speaker 238 Because, as you know,

Speaker 238 the leader of India, who's a great guy, was here a few weeks ago. We had some great talks.
We're doing a trade deal. And Pakistan, likewise, they have very, very strong leadership.

Speaker 238 Some people won't like when I say that, but, you know, it is what it is. And they stopped that war.
Now, am I going to get credit? I'm not going to get credit for anything.

Speaker 238 They don't give me credit for anything, but nobody else could have done it.

Speaker 179 I don't get credit for anything.

Speaker 8 But I believe it.

Speaker 73 I believe you called them up and said, hey, stop that nonsense.

Speaker 161 No trade deals.

Speaker 46 I believe that.

Speaker 1 I believe it too, but I think the good people on both sides of the state IC reference was funny.

Speaker 2 That was ballback. That was hilarious.

Speaker 3 That was funny.

Speaker 177 That was very funny.

Speaker 85 The good people on both sides.

Speaker 34 Both sides.

Speaker 58 Good people on both sides.

Speaker 148 And then during the Peepers meeting, oh no.

Speaker 8 Oh, no.

Speaker 13 We're talking to China again.

Speaker 238 We had a very good conversation with President Xi a little while ago, just before your arrival. In fact, we just hung up, and they said, you're here.
I said, that's pretty good.

Speaker 238 Two great leaders of the world in a very short period of time.

Speaker 238 We had a very good talk, and we've straightened out any complexity, and it's very complex stuff, and we straightened it out.

Speaker 238 The agreement was: we're going to have Scott and Howard and Jameson will be going and meeting with their top people and continue it forward.

Speaker 238 But no, I think we have everything, I think we're in very good shape with China and the trade deal.

Speaker 238 We have a deal with China, as you know, but we were straightening out some of the points, having to do mostly with rare earth

Speaker 238 magnets and some other things.

Speaker 178 So it's reduced trade tariff rates, they remain in effect?

Speaker 238 Yeah, we have the deal. I mean, we've had a deal.
We announced the deal. And we'll be, I guess you could say, I wouldn't even say finalizing it up, Scott.

Speaker 238 I would say we have a deal, and we're going to just make sure that everybody

Speaker 238 knows what the deal is.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 64 They had a deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he stumbled there. I don't think he meant to say that.
He kind of backed away. They have a deal, obviously, in this case.

Speaker 42 Clearly, they have a deal. Yes.

Speaker 1 Something's up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Probably a counter for the stock market.

Speaker 8 There was one. Going up a little bit.

Speaker 8 Yeah. There was one other thing that I thought was,

Speaker 108 you know, we're in the season of reveal.

Speaker 13 I mean, season of reveal.

Speaker 8 Well.

Speaker 108 Well, the first thing of the season of reveal,

Speaker 137 this came, this was also in the

Speaker 168 let me see where it is.

Speaker 98 It was in the Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 88 Pentagon disinformation that fueled America's UFO mythology.

Speaker 8 Did you even hear about this?

Speaker 1 No, tell me.

Speaker 75 A tiny Pentagon office had spent months investigating conspiracy theories about secret Washington UFO programs when it uncovered a shocking truth.

Speaker 94 At least one of those theories had been fueled by the Pentagon itself.

Speaker 88 The

Speaker 181 congressionally ordered probe took investigators back to the 1980s.

Speaker 8 Remember that the whole hearing, and everyone's like, oh, no, I've seen it.

Speaker 182 It's off-world.

Speaker 214 And we're like, these guys are full of crap.

Speaker 52 When an Air Force colonel visited a bar near Area 51, a top secret site in the Nevada Desert, he gave the owner photos of what might be flying saucers.

Speaker 50 The photos went up on the walls and into the local lore went the idea the U.S.

Speaker 63 military was secretly testing recovered alien technology.

Speaker 191 But the colonel was on a mission of disinformation.

Speaker 1 The photos were doctored.

Speaker 191 The now retired officer confessed to the Philippines.

Speaker 140 Doctored?

Speaker 70 Yes.

Speaker 81 The now retired officer confessed to the Pentagon investigators.

Speaker 78 The whole exercise was a ruse to protect what was really going on in Area 51.

Speaker 1 The Air Force was using the site to develop top-secret stealth fighters viewed as critical edge against, at the time, the Soviet Union.

Speaker 104 All those TikTok, Tic-Tac videos and stuff, trust me, this is all bull crap.

Speaker 172 All of it.

Speaker 73 All of it has been to cover up

Speaker 8 their own stuff, which probably doesn't work very well.

Speaker 100 Season of Reveal.

Speaker 1 They didn't reveal much.

Speaker 196 What?

Speaker 203 That the Pentagon itself was lying about

Speaker 3 the news.

Speaker 88 Well, it's in the Wall Street Journal, but who cares?

Speaker 115 Of course,

Speaker 1 the Pentagon was lying. Wait a minute.
Let me get this straight. The Pentagon was lying?

Speaker 179 Well, yes, gambling.

Speaker 1 But it's gambling going on. And that's to you is the season of reveal?

Speaker 120 Wow.

Speaker 1 Because it's been unknown in the past that they lie.

Speaker 41 About the UFO specifically.

Speaker 14 Listen, Joe Rogan's.

Speaker 1 Well, that could be maybe it's a meta. Maybe

Speaker 1 they're living with some aliens in the White House as we speak.

Speaker 73 Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

Speaker 49 Yeah, I should have figured that one out.

Speaker 1 That would be your perspective.

Speaker 120 I don't get it

Speaker 1 while you're knuckling under here to what might be an op.

Speaker 172 I don't think so.

Speaker 123 Here's another season of Reveal.

Speaker 240 A Japanese aerospace company trying to put a lander on the surface of the moon says it has lost contact with the craft.

Speaker 194 The lander, Resilience, is owned by iSpace, and this is only the third time in history that a private company has tried to reach the moon.

Speaker 240 It's also the first time a company outside the US has achieved this feat.

Speaker 240 Resilience is an uncrewed spacecraft

Speaker 240 which was carried into orbit by a SpaceX rocket in January.

Speaker 6 One.

Speaker 240 Keith Cowings, a space expert and editor of NASAWatch.com. He joins us from Washington, DC.

Speaker 194 Now iSpace, the the Japanese uh enterprise, they lost communication as the lander approached the surface uh of the moon.

Speaker 1 We seem to uh hear that uh a lot when people try and do this.

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 242 it's uh going to the moon is straightforward, orbiting the moon is straightforward, coming down close to the moon, sending pictures is straightforward, but landing is always hard.

Speaker 242 They were going kind of fast when they lost the telemetry or the data. So I really don't think we have a healthy spacecraft on the moon.
We may have a crashed spacecraft.

Speaker 85 Right.

Speaker 194 So getting this far,

Speaker 167 is that getting as far as actually starting to approach the moon to try and land?

Speaker 167 Is that standard or is that actually quite an achievement?

Speaker 242 You know, the idea is to go to the moon and land there.

Speaker 242 And we sort of have, again, the notion of going to the moon and going around it is easier than doing all the rocketry so the thing lands exactly how you want it so

Speaker 242 i'm happy that they made it that far i just wish they would have gone a little bit further and a little slower uh 50 years ago we dent it we did it in a in a tuna fish can

Speaker 64 how can it be hard

Speaker 113 This is second half of show.

Speaker 140 Five years ago.

Speaker 45 This is the second half of show stuff that we're missing so much.

Speaker 212 We never landed on the moon in the first place.

Speaker 161 The Japanese make great cars. They can't even land on the moon.

Speaker 8 It's all fake.

Speaker 192 My favorite, though, is Cash Patel going on Rogan, spending an hour talking about China killing us on purpose with fentanyl.

Speaker 95 Russia Gate was a setup.

Speaker 8 Really?

Speaker 1 Did you watch the whole thing?

Speaker 139 I watched about

Speaker 104 70%.

Speaker 13 Did you watch the whole thing?

Speaker 157 And then he got an episode.

Speaker 1 I didn't watch any of it. I don't really watch too much Rogan.

Speaker 203 It was only on for two hours.

Speaker 237 The timing is interesting.

Speaker 23 And about Epstein, well, you know,

Speaker 28 we're going to get there.

Speaker 1 We're going to get to be hilarious.

Speaker 50 The way they're handling it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, we have to cover up a lot of stuff.

Speaker 82 We've got to protect the innocent.

Speaker 102 But we're doing it.

Speaker 1 We're going to release an artificial intelligence

Speaker 62 movie of

Speaker 222 the AI keeps giving Epstein six fingers on one hand.

Speaker 88 So they'll fix that.

Speaker 1 They can't get this. It's just a matter of time.
They got to keep regenerating it. They'll have it.

Speaker 181 But what I like a lot, and I know that this is bubbling, and he's been talking about it more and more.

Speaker 203 This is really going to come into play.

Speaker 177 This is the auto pen controversy.

Speaker 238 Well, look, the auto pen, I think, is the big scandal. Outside of the rigged election of 2020, I think the biggest scandal of the last many years is the AutoPen.
And who's using it?

Speaker 238 I happen to think I know, okay, because I'm here. And I'm not a big AutoPen person, fortunately.
I'm glad. I'm very glad.
It's an easy way out.

Speaker 238 But it's

Speaker 238 a very bad thing, very dangerous. You know, I sign important documents.
Usually, when they put documents in front of you, they're important.

Speaker 238 Even if you're signing ambassadorships, or and I consider that important. I think it's inappropriate.
You have somebody that's devoting four years of their life or more to being an ambassador.

Speaker 238 I think you really deserve, that person deserves to get a real signature, not an AutoPen signature. And I can tell AutoPen easily.

Speaker 238 I can look at it like two little pinholes from pulling the paper, right? You only see the pinholes. It's real easy to tell about AutoPen.

Speaker 238 I think it's very disrespectful to people when they get an AutoPen signature.

Speaker 238 Outside, AutoPen to me are used when thousands of letters come in from young people all over the country and you want to get them back. And, you know, people use AutoPens for that.

Speaker 238 You send a little signature at the bottom of a letter. We have thousands of them.
We get thousands of of letters a week, and it's not possible to, you know, do it.

Speaker 238 I'd like to do it myself, but you can't do it. To me, that's where autopens start and stop.

Speaker 238 But I don't think, I don't, I'm sure that he didn't know many of the things. Look, he was never for open borders.
He was never for transgender for everybody.

Speaker 238 He was never for men playing in women's sports. I mean, he changed.
I mean, all of these things that changed so radically.

Speaker 238 I don't think he had any idea that what was, frankly, I said it during the debate and I say it now. he didn't have much of an idea what was going on

Speaker 238 you shouldn't be I mean essentially whoever used the auto pen was the president and that is wrong it's illegal it's so bad and it's so disrespectful to our country I I smell something coming well there is something coming but it's interesting to listen to Trump because he what he said there could have been said in 15 seconds.

Speaker 1 He just is the most long-winded guy.

Speaker 1 He's going to wear everybody out.

Speaker 73 I mean, he gets us to under our two-minute time limit for a clip, but just barely.

Speaker 18 But I like the two little pinholes.

Speaker 79 You can tell because of the two little pinholes.

Speaker 73 That's interesting.

Speaker 108 I didn't know about that with the auto.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that. Yeah, he does redo

Speaker 1 material.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 1 So now we all know what to look for.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 73 if those papers that were auto-pen signed were not directed by the president,

Speaker 77 can they be declared null and void?

Speaker 220 Duo.

Speaker 1 That's what they're working on.

Speaker 1 That's where they're headed. They're trying to do that so they can pull the pardons on some of these people.

Speaker 1 Yes. And no.

Speaker 165 I think that, no, that's it.

Speaker 66 That's it, to pull the pardons on those people.

Speaker 73 I think that's it.

Speaker 94 That's all that he's going to do.

Speaker 108 Everything else is complicated because of Congress voted for it, you know, and they sent a bill.

Speaker 94 That's complicated.

Speaker 66 But the pardons, yeah.

Speaker 140 I can see that's where he's going.

Speaker 1 I think he's targeting Adam Schiff.

Speaker 6 Pencil neck. That'll be funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Adam Schiff is

Speaker 1 in deep shit, this guy.

Speaker 222 Yeah, California. What do you expect?

Speaker 13 By the way, on the quads right now, protests erupt.

Speaker 104 ICE against protests. And literally, the ICE guys are just standing there in a line.

Speaker 148 Nothing's happening.

Speaker 7 CNN. Protests are up for third day.

Speaker 17 ICE raids.

Speaker 7 BBC. National Guard troops clash.

Speaker 13 There's no, it's not a single.

Speaker 176 They're literally standing there. There's not a single clash taking place.

Speaker 7 Standoff between National Guard and protesters on third day in L.A.

Speaker 181 MSNBC.

Speaker 118 Fox.

Speaker 104 House subcommittee to hold hearing on anti-Semitic attacks.

Speaker 3 Okay, there you go.

Speaker 77 No wonder people listen to podcasts.

Speaker 113 Oof.

Speaker 1 So I have two clips before we go to the break, which I think is overdue. Yep.

Speaker 1 Because these clips, I put one, this has been in for

Speaker 1 probably a month about and these are Andrew Tate warning clips. But I want to play these two clips one after the other.
And one of them is because it doesn't make sense. There's something going on.

Speaker 1 This guy is an op of some sort.

Speaker 80 I've never understood.

Speaker 181 I haven't really paid attention to it.

Speaker 1 You have the same sense I do.

Speaker 20 Something is amiss.

Speaker 120 But this is Andrew Tate Arrest PBS.

Speaker 244 Prosecutors in the UK say that the influencers Andrew and Tristan Tate have been charged with rape, human trafficking, and other crimes.

Speaker 244 Officials say the charges were authorized last year and are only now being confirmed. The Tates were arrested in Romania in 2022 and indicted last year on charges of sexually exploiting women.

Speaker 244 Andrew Tate was also charged with rape there. British prosecutors say the two will be extradited to the UK once the Romanian case is concluded.

Speaker 244 The Tates are dual citizens of the US and UK, and they deny any wrongdoing.

Speaker 192 The whole Romania thing is

Speaker 69 odd.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we have what sounds like you got two horrible people that are under arrest.

Speaker 120 But then explain this second clip.

Speaker 245 The online influencer and self-declared misogynist Andrew Tate has been fined and suspended from driving after being caught doing nearly four times the speed limit in Romania.

Speaker 245 Officials say the British American National was driving nearly 200 kilometers an hour in a village, despite a 50 kilometer an hour limit. Mr.

Speaker 245 Tate and his brother Tristan face charges including rape and human trafficking in Romania, as well as separate allegations in Britain and the United States. They deny all those accusations.

Speaker 56 Wait, so

Speaker 1 this was from yesterday, by the way.

Speaker 1 So these guys, all this bullcrap, and they're just floating around, driving around at high speeds and carefree? Does this make any sense at all?

Speaker 47 No.

Speaker 192 And how does Romania fit into it?

Speaker 102 What are they doing in Romania?

Speaker 192 Why Romania?

Speaker 1 There's something very suspicious about the whole Andrew Tate situation.

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 58 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like every one of these things, it's like these are coded messages.

Speaker 33 I don't know who they're coded for or why or how, but

Speaker 1 the whole 200 miles and that, 200 kilometers an hour.

Speaker 112 That's pretty fast in a village.

Speaker 1 That's very fast.

Speaker 8 That's very fast in a village.

Speaker 1 That is fast by any standards.

Speaker 17 Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the ice federalization.

Speaker 28 Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr.

Speaker 17 John C.

Speaker 133 DeMore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Graham, manager ship of sea busting around feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the names and knights out there.

Speaker 160 Good morning to the trolls trolls in the troll room.

Speaker 18 Stop.

Speaker 73 I need more bangs. More bangs.

Speaker 163 It scatters them.

Speaker 20 There you go.

Speaker 8 Yes, there we go. There we go.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 73 We're back on par. We're back on par.

Speaker 76 2247 at the peak.

Speaker 5 That makes sense.

Speaker 75 That's about right for a Sunday, isn't it?

Speaker 1 22.47.

Speaker 50 No, it's down. Down.

Speaker 140 24 is what we should have.

Speaker 56 Oh,

Speaker 56 well.

Speaker 66 Hello, trolls. Good to have you here.

Speaker 108 We appreciate you all so much.

Speaker 8 The trolls hang out in the troll room at trollroom.io.

Speaker 112 Hey, I got a lot of feedback on

Speaker 45 the new podcast apps.

Speaker 186 Everyone's like, yeah, man, Apple should be using Podping.

Speaker 191 We talked about it on the last show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Podping. Yeah.

Speaker 88 Guess who didn't call Apple?

Speaker 107 Why would they?

Speaker 56 Hey, I know.

Speaker 1 You said it a couple of shows ago. Not invented here.

Speaker 1 It's a mantra of Silicon Valley.

Speaker 58 Podcasting wasn't invented there either.

Speaker 112 Yet they love that.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 they've assumed, somehow they've assumed that it was invented there.

Speaker 40 Yeah. So everything else is not invented.

Speaker 101 I bet if you go, if you stand outside that spaceship and you say, hey, who invented podcasting?

Speaker 75 They all say, Steve.

Speaker 1 Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs.

Speaker 95 Of course.

Speaker 126 Yeah, he invented it.

Speaker 40 Yeah, probably true. Yeah, that's what you do.

Speaker 1 That's how you do it. So if you

Speaker 66 want to stay in touch with your favorite podcasts, don't be duped.

Speaker 84 Don't be duped by the legacy apps.

Speaker 73 They're no good.

Speaker 70 Get a modern podcast app.

Speaker 192 Hundreds of thousands of podcasts are using the technology that updates within 90 seconds of posting, or as some would say, downloading.

Speaker 88 And of course, the new hot stuff is the live podcasts.

Speaker 70 And there are a lot of podcasts, particularly on the No Agenda stream.

Speaker 24 I think all of them use the...

Speaker 66 the what we call the lit technology live item tag for live so your podcast app will notify you when they go live this is what you want many more features as as well.

Speaker 113 Podcastapps.com.

Speaker 65 Thank you to our artists.

Speaker 112 Wow.

Speaker 8 I guess

Speaker 50 we were wrong.

Speaker 94 You know, in the value for value model, we have many ways people can contribute and support the show.

Speaker 97 One of them is, well, two of them are with time and talent.

Speaker 98 And we love our artists who are always helping us by giving us artwork to use for

Speaker 73 the album art.

Speaker 108 So it's always exciting.

Speaker 186 And we've been doing it for,

Speaker 45 gosh, well over 15 years, I think, maybe even longer.

Speaker 73 We've had no agenda, artgenerator.com.

Speaker 52 And we were pretty convinced that Digital

Speaker 88 2112 Man was

Speaker 108 an alias for Darren O'Neal.

Speaker 8 It turns out that's not true.

Speaker 1 It turns out to be a real person, at least, unless it's an op that's so elaborate that I don't even think Darren would do it.

Speaker 1 Yes. But he's obviously, he says himself,

Speaker 1 he's actually an expat. He hates the term, but he is.
He lives in Madeira, Portugal.

Speaker 89 Yes, that was interesting.

Speaker 1 And he is a former,

Speaker 1 not a spook, but former guy.

Speaker 40 Some guy, I forgot what he did.

Speaker 46 Some kind of thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he moved to Portugal for the cheap

Speaker 8 alcohol.

Speaker 3 Cost of living.

Speaker 1 And he lives in Madeira. They got good wine there.

Speaker 77 I'll give you a Madeira, Madeira.

Speaker 1 So he

Speaker 1 it seems as if he's using the same tools and has developed the same prompting techniques as Darren, giving us results that are almost identical.

Speaker 23 Well, and there it is.

Speaker 63 There is the fallacy of AI.

Speaker 139 Like it all starts to look, it all looks

Speaker 8 like the other one.

Speaker 88 It all sounds like it.

Speaker 1 And of course, Darren never chimed in

Speaker 1 to say anything. He wanted to take credit for being a smartie

Speaker 3 and

Speaker 1 giving him more credit than he deserves, which he loves.

Speaker 97 Darren deserves a lot of credit, man.

Speaker 1 Well, he's a very talented person.

Speaker 42 He is.

Speaker 70 And he's like six foot nine or something.

Speaker 1 Six foot nine.

Speaker 60 Yeah, he's huge.

Speaker 1 He's like lurch.

Speaker 140 Gives you a different look.

Speaker 1 Oh, Darren.

Speaker 8 I'm Darren.

Speaker 168 You rang.

Speaker 3 You rang.

Speaker 81 We want to thank Blue Acorn for his his AI prompting skills.

Speaker 181 I think, I don't know.

Speaker 73 I'm afraid to say it.

Speaker 37 I'm sure.

Speaker 47 You don't know.

Speaker 88 Blue Acorn doesn't always use AI.

Speaker 214 He's told us that.

Speaker 96 This could be just Blue Acorn.

Speaker 18 He brought us the artwork for episode 1770.

Speaker 73 We titled that one Control Grit.

Speaker 105 I did get some people thanking us for talking about Catherine Austin Fitz.

Speaker 177 They too are tired of the adult Whitney Webb that she sometimes turns out to be.

Speaker 84 And this was The Salmon to the Face,

Speaker 111 which,

Speaker 67 and I think I copied you on the reply.

Speaker 73 Someone reminded me that this was a Monty Python skit, although not with salmons.

Speaker 24 I think it was herring.

Speaker 1 Well, it was herring, then it was followed by a salmon or some big fish.

Speaker 208 Yeah.

Speaker 70 Where they were slapping each other in the face with the fish.

Speaker 38 So, yes.

Speaker 73 But if you're from Holland, you understand

Speaker 162 these types of expressions, getting hit in the face with a wet salmon.

Speaker 148 And it was a funny piece.

Speaker 216 I think

Speaker 88 we both went, yeah, yeah, let's do that one.

Speaker 8 Let's do Blue Acorn.

Speaker 100 Well, it was hard.

Speaker 1 There wasn't anything better. You did like the control grid.
I didn't like that at all. Let me see what that was.

Speaker 140 It was down further.

Speaker 1 There wasn't any real killers.

Speaker 39 There was a lot of Trump-Elon stuff, which Trump and Elon.

Speaker 1 We try to not put people in so often.

Speaker 75 And a lot of socks. A lot of socks.

Speaker 3 A lot of socks. Socks.

Speaker 1 A lot of socks.

Speaker 34 You like.

Speaker 1 I can't remember what the sock reference was.

Speaker 123 We were talking about socks made in America.

Speaker 1 Yeah, gold Goldtoes.

Speaker 15 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 73 No, I like the one with Trump and Musk laughing and then the CNN headline in the back, Trump and Musk at War.

Speaker 108 But you nix that.

Speaker 174 Probably rightly so.

Speaker 181 A lot of them boxing.

Speaker 137 No.

Speaker 62 We looked at that.

Speaker 213 Let's see.

Speaker 168 Control grid. I don't see the control grid.

Speaker 8 Oh,

Speaker 38 look, there's Larry. Darren.
Larin.

Speaker 69 There's Darren. Larin.

Speaker 207 Darren posted, don't fall for the cheap imitations.

Speaker 192 I am not digital 2112 man.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Cheap imitation.

Speaker 73 And again, I'm just looking at tons of AI.

Speaker 62 It's sickening. It's all AI.

Speaker 1 There's a piece or two that's not.

Speaker 108 It's all starting to look like the piece next to it.

Speaker 56 All of it. It's just.

Speaker 1 I'm not seeing that so much.

Speaker 1 Oh, come on.

Speaker 99 You're a hater.

Speaker 19 It's boring.

Speaker 1 Let's just face it.

Speaker 52 It's boring.

Speaker 162 I'd rather have bad mixes for end of show.

Speaker 1 The mixes are the mix that you've got coming up is the worst mix you probably ever produced.

Speaker 81 I produce nothing.

Speaker 161 I just get what people say.

Speaker 1 It's probably the worst mix you've ever approved.

Speaker 53 I approve everything.

Speaker 49 It's user-generated content.

Speaker 64 That's how it works.

Speaker 14 Sometimes they're great.

Speaker 1 People at the end will hear it and they'll probably never listen to the show again.

Speaker 1 Adamcurry.com, if you like the piece, tell them that John's full of it and these mixes that we have today on today's show are fabulous because that's what Adam thinks is going to happen.

Speaker 1 And I disagree.

Speaker 47 Well,

Speaker 1 but I could be wrong.

Speaker 7 Maybe these are they could be terrific.

Speaker 38 Let me just say, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 Maybe I don't like them for some other, some psychological reason.

Speaker 85 Yes.

Speaker 1 And I don't like, you know, just people that just clip us saying something and then repeating it over and over and over and over again, meaninglessly with no song involved or any creativity whatsoever.

Speaker 14 This says the guy who likes house music.

Speaker 14 Who says I like house music?

Speaker 185 You like that techno.

Speaker 88 You like techno.

Speaker 8 You're a techno guy.

Speaker 237 You like, you come on.

Speaker 35 You like a lot of that techno stuff, rave music.

Speaker 155 I've heard you like it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so what?

Speaker 203 But that's what they're making.

Speaker 1 the thing here here's here's that's an interesting approach well here's the thing

Speaker 196 so people don't know this if you don't listen to the live show but i'll play the end of show mixes before the show starts kind of a little warm-up after darren and we just get going and then and then

Speaker 207 typically i open up john's mic and i say in the morning

Speaker 192 And then you say in the morning, and then I do the whole fat lady thing.

Speaker 88 So it's, and it's okay if you don't like the mixes.

Speaker 24 But when I say in the morning, you say, I think, you don't even say in the morning.

Speaker 1 I think we should get rid of those.

Speaker 163 We shouldn't play those.

Speaker 103 Those are no good.

Speaker 161 I should, we should get rid of the whole segment altogether.

Speaker 51 Is that not what you said?

Speaker 1 Well, I didn't use that intonation.

Speaker 95 That's how it sounded in my ears.

Speaker 1 Well, everything to you.

Speaker 73 But you didn't even say, good morning, in the morning.

Speaker 109 Hello.

Speaker 83 Hello, partner.

Speaker 29 I'm glad you showed up again.

Speaker 182 First of all, first of all, you were late.

Speaker 39 So I go to the light.

Speaker 11 I was not late.

Speaker 176 I was not late.

Speaker 114 I turned on the, I was clipping for the show, and I was running long, and I just hadn't brought up clean feed yet.

Speaker 107 And you're texting like, where are you?

Speaker 13 How come it's not again?

Speaker 1 In that exact tone.

Speaker 172 Let me see. Let me read it to you.

Speaker 73 Yes, it's exactly that tone. Here it is.

Speaker 17 Why are you not online? Question mark, question mark, question mark.

Speaker 203 Three question marks.

Speaker 79 How am I supposed to.

Speaker 47 Is that why you're not online?

Speaker 13 Or is that, why are you not online?

Speaker 14 What's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 Was it all caps the way you're expressing it?

Speaker 76 You know, funny enough, you didn't even capitalize the first letter of the sentence.

Speaker 1 Of course not, because it was low-key.

Speaker 1 I thought, here's what I thought. I thought you were using the old instance.

Speaker 237 Well, that wouldn't make any difference.

Speaker 212 You can come in on the old instance or the new instance.

Speaker 1 No, I only have one that I can come in on, which is the new one.

Speaker 23 No, the other one still works.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I don't have a link to it anymore.

Speaker 70 My point is, I didn't change.

Speaker 196 You changed.

Speaker 181 It doesn't matter.

Speaker 12 It doesn't matter.

Speaker 8 No,

Speaker 1 you usually have the whole hour of Darren. And I like listening to Darren stuff, so I can complain about it.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I have to say, he did have a, I think it was Def Leppard doing a version of Traveling Band.

Speaker 88 Yes, do you not know that this is on

Speaker 70 this is on the No Agenda stream and if you can listen to it there live in real time?

Speaker 1 I've done that, but

Speaker 1 every so often when I do that, I leave the stream running and it confuses everything because you get this feedback and it's like, can't be

Speaker 168 doesn't work.

Speaker 94 Thank you very much.

Speaker 70 We're done now.

Speaker 73 I just want to make the point that the troll room is now, mommy and daddy are fighting. Oh no,

Speaker 1 the troll rooms are a bunch of weenies if they think that.

Speaker 1 They're weenies. This is the mommy gay.

Speaker 8 They have some issues.

Speaker 114 My point is, they didn't feel that way when Trump and Elon were fighting.

Speaker 10 Point made.

Speaker 115 Let's thank our producers.

Speaker 70 We thank everyone who sends us a financial donation, $50 and above.

Speaker 73 We'll thank you by name. We'll thank you with the amount that you sent us.

Speaker 162 And of course, we have our executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 29 A gambit, we made up because we want people to feel good about donating more when they can, when they feel like it, when they've received value that equals the amount they're sending into us.

Speaker 52 And so with that, we said, you know what?

Speaker 16 What makes Hollywood different from us?

Speaker 112 We're a part of the establishment.

Speaker 73 We can give out executive and associate executive producer credits.

Speaker 78 And it turns out it's true because people can use them on imdb.com.

Speaker 207 It's just the same, whether you're a producer on the latest Clooney movie or the No Agenda Show.

Speaker 107 You are a producer.

Speaker 162 Congratulations.

Speaker 63 So here's how it works with these particular titles.

Speaker 109 $200 or above, you get an associate executive producer credit, good for your entire lifetime.

Speaker 105 Doesn't expire.

Speaker 54 We'll read your note.

Speaker 70 $300 or above, you become an executive producer, and we read your note.

Speaker 73 And again, that doesn't expire.

Speaker 35 And we kick it off today with the one and only Sir Dirty Jersey Whore.

Speaker 7 That guy, by the way, is also 6'9,

Speaker 118 and he's probably 260 pounds.

Speaker 168 He's huge.

Speaker 203 And he comes to every single meetup in Texas.

Speaker 23 He's in Gladewater.

Speaker 52 He sends us $1,033.

Speaker 203 And he says, I hope this donation of 1033 finds you well.

Speaker 146 I reckon I'd like to get one of those highly sought-after PhDs.

Speaker 63 The extra $33 hopefully offsets the legacy banking system fees.

Speaker 203 No jingles, no karma. Just John's best.

Speaker 179 I'm not buying it.

Speaker 1 I'm not buying it.

Speaker 29 I believe this donation brings me to baronet status.

Speaker 162 I was originally inclined to forego the upgrade because I believe the title to mean small or female.

Speaker 110 However, after an informative chat with my local AI chat bot, I found that it's not a diminutive term.

Speaker 74 The et, as opposed to et with double T E.

Speaker 203 Ending comes from Old French, but it doesn't imply small or female.

Speaker 76 A baronet is still addressed as sir, and the title passes down to male heirs, unlike a knighthood, which is not hereditary.

Speaker 222 This is a good point.

Speaker 29 So when you die, your kid gets it.

Speaker 162 Anyways, please ask everyone to come to my meetup in Longview, Texas at the end of the month.

Speaker 202 It'll be fun, and you'll get to meet the world-famous Sir Brian with one eye.

Speaker 137 Adam and John, thanks for all you do.

Speaker 70 It does not go unnoticed.

Speaker 97 Y'all be good, says Dirty Jersey Whore.

Speaker 40 Thank you, DJW.

Speaker 168 We really appreciate that.

Speaker 1 Next donation is from Anonymous in New York.

Speaker 1 this donation came in in a very small envelope that was completely taped in every which way uh and jay didn't want to open she says there's something in here it's all taped up i can't open

Speaker 1 fentanyl i'm gonna get killed so i had to take a knife and rip through the tape to cut it open i said i guarantee there's a big check in here because that's what people when they when they put a big check in the mail they always tape it up

Speaker 1 it's like a giveaway and it was was. There was a check for $500 from someone who

Speaker 1 did the right thing.

Speaker 1 You want to be anonymous. We had a complaint from one of our, someone who was a spook that sent something in through Stripe and bitched at us for saying his name.

Speaker 77 Yeah,

Speaker 88 do you want to send it in cash in an envelope?

Speaker 1 This guy did a check, and he had post-it notes all over the check saying anonymous blog.

Speaker 88 Anonymous, anonymous.

Speaker 1 So we got the picture.

Speaker 3 It was a picture?

Speaker 41 Oh, no, we got the picture. I get it.
Yes.

Speaker 1 We got the picture. No, he's anonymous at 500 bucks, so we appreciate that.
But he gets a double-up karma.

Speaker 162 Because he had no note, which is always

Speaker 246 worth a double up.

Speaker 216 Karma.

Speaker 216 All right.

Speaker 161 Oh, here we go to Ross Johnson.

Speaker 18 Read him earlier.

Speaker 191 $333.39.

Speaker 212 Knighting donation.

Speaker 56 Now.

Speaker 137 Is he getting knighted?

Speaker 10 Is he on the knighting list?

Speaker 186 Let me make sure.

Speaker 177 I want to make sure we get him.

Speaker 4 Knights.

Speaker 86 Hmm.

Speaker 1 I haven't donated in years because Adam Elon

Speaker 1 donation.

Speaker 1 Unless he hasn't donated in years, but this is his knighting, he claims, donation.

Speaker 179 He's not on the list, so that has to be a good idea.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe he should clarify. Yes.

Speaker 72 I haven't donated in years

Speaker 191 because of Adam's Elon hatred.

Speaker 8 Seriously?

Speaker 141 Obviously, short selling for years, which is just funny.

Speaker 177 I know that's...

Speaker 1 Yeah, I find that to be hilarious.

Speaker 90 Adam flips like a fish out of water because of facts on X.

Speaker 161 It's not a terrible platform, right?

Speaker 70 Dude, if you hate me so much.

Speaker 1 No, no, if he's going to hate and donate 330, 330 nights.

Speaker 23 That's the best.

Speaker 1 That's what you want.

Speaker 29 Call out douchebag Fritz for his youngest graduating high school.

Speaker 4 Douchebag.

Speaker 23 Okay, there you go.

Speaker 203 Thank you very much, Ross Johnson. I have never shorted.

Speaker 62 I've never shorted.

Speaker 1 He doesn't short.

Speaker 14 I've never shorted.

Speaker 1 It's not, it's non-trivial.

Speaker 1 That he put a big heart at the end, an emoji. Yeah,

Speaker 65 I guess it's all.

Speaker 13 Maybe it was just all in jest.

Speaker 23 It was

Speaker 14 that could be.

Speaker 1 Maybe he's just chiding you.

Speaker 136 Yeah, that's possible.

Speaker 16 That could be because that's what the heart's for.

Speaker 23 Regardless,

Speaker 203 I forgive him of his debts as I forgive my debtors.

Speaker 1 Indy No Agenda Meetup came in from Greenwood, Indiana. They're always doing a meetup all the time.

Speaker 57 They have big, big, big meetups. Marca Maria, big, big meetup.

Speaker 1 So they they got 330, 333 for us. And this is the Indy No Agenda meetup.
Raffles, Switcher Roo donation for Jason

Speaker 1 Soderlund.

Speaker 1 Soderlund. So

Speaker 40 he'll be credited. Yes, he will.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Adam and John, for your good humor and perspective. Thanks also to all the producers who silently work in the background to keep the show going.
I expectedly,

Speaker 1 especially, I specially

Speaker 1 want to thank Dreb for his tireless effort in putting the chapters together. Yes, Dreb Scott, everybody, who is no, it's very appreciated and adds a lot to the show.

Speaker 1 I went to my first meetup in Indy last weekend.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is

Speaker 1 Jason writing this. Oh, they gave Jason the ability.
He wrote the note. Yes.

Speaker 102 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Went to my first meetup, had a great time, and having won the meetup donation raffle, I decided to add it to my

Speaker 1 add to it. Oh, he added to it to get his producer credit, executive producer credit.
So he needs a dedouching.

Speaker 200 You've been dedouched.

Speaker 1 And then he has a plug that you'd like, minimal agenda. If you're looking for it to cultivate a Bible reading discipline in yourself, go to sonsofsolomon.net.
Peace in Christ, he writes.

Speaker 1 Jingles request, what's that in your mouth?

Speaker 18 Sonsofsolomon.net.

Speaker 73 What's that in your mouth?

Speaker 43 It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just kind of a

Speaker 1 interesting.

Speaker 1 JCD hot pockets, karma, and no karma, just prayers from, and he says, Pax Vobiscum, Jason Sutherland.

Speaker 32 Hot pockets.

Speaker 4 What's that in your mouth?

Speaker 213 Still gets me.

Speaker 28 Mike, thank you, Jason.

Speaker 203 Mike Rulin in White Salmon Washington 333.33. He says he wants a double F cancer.

Speaker 246 You've got karma.

Speaker 174 Don't do that.

Speaker 186 Oh, we don't do that all the time, but since he asked me, you've got karma.

Speaker 4 There we go.

Speaker 1 And you can read the next one says it blows up my spreadsheet.

Speaker 191 Trevor Lohman, Redlands, California, $210, associate executive producer.

Speaker 125 He says, I've been listening since 2013.

Speaker 66 I was donating steadily, but unfortunately lost my health care job for not accepting the vaccine into my life.

Speaker 109 Once I could finally get a lawyer to take my case, I learned that the statute of limitations had expired.

Speaker 97 Oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 162 Hmm. I wonder what the statute of limitations were on and what they were for.

Speaker 140 Seems

Speaker 1 pretty short. Yeah.

Speaker 227 In an ironic series.

Speaker 1 I wonder what they, oh, he's going to have to explain.

Speaker 181 Yeah, I'd love to know.

Speaker 203 In an ironic series of events, I'm now a professor of neurology at a Big Ten medical school.

Speaker 107 Things have a way of working out.

Speaker 66 I would be happy to replace your long-lost brain professor if you're still in the market.

Speaker 107 Yes, but are you a Libtard?

Speaker 8 Doesn't quite work if you aren't a Libtard.

Speaker 161 This is my first donation in five years, and it brings me to knighthood.

Speaker 94 Please knight me, sir, Writer of Words, and plug my recent book, God's Eye View.

Speaker 203 The book explores the true experiments in neuroscience and quantum mechanics that support rather than refute the existence of the human soul.

Speaker 181 Well, send me a copy.

Speaker 56 Wow.

Speaker 46 That's cool.

Speaker 34 Please also plug the Grimerica Show, the Brothers of the Serpent podcast, and my own podcast.

Speaker 113 Oh, I'll listen to your podcast.

Speaker 37 My own podcast.

Speaker 1 My own podcast plug.

Speaker 220 Yes.

Speaker 94 And my own podcast, God's Eye View.

Speaker 8 Oh, I know Trevor.

Speaker 107 He actually sent me the book.

Speaker 50 Oh, brother.

Speaker 70 Yeah, well, he wanted me to write a blurb, but his deadline was too tight, and I just couldn't get through it.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, I can write a blurb in two seconds.

Speaker 1 You know, I was told this is years ago.

Speaker 148 But you know what?

Speaker 203 It's like when you send someone a book in a Word document, I find that very hard to read all of the books.

Speaker 3 Okay,

Speaker 40 I understand. That's difficult.

Speaker 1 But you were going to say, I have a promotion, a

Speaker 1 story.

Speaker 1 So, and I took it to heart. And I'm always irked.

Speaker 1 I've done a couple of books and I've asked people for blurbs. They say, well, I got to read it first.
They go on and on and on. It's like, give me a break.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I've got total agreement with you.

Speaker 3 I can't write a blurb.

Speaker 23 I actually considered just writing his blurb without having read it, but I didn't feel good about it.

Speaker 102 Well,

Speaker 1 so John Brockman, my agent in New York that was when I was doing a lot of tech books,

Speaker 2 who's

Speaker 1 well connected, he was friends with Alan Watts, the

Speaker 1 writer, Buddhist.

Speaker 40 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 63 This is all the guys that Whitney Webb talks about.

Speaker 1 And so he says that Alan Watts told him that he says he never met a blurb he didn't write.

Speaker 1 He says, if you asked Alan Watts for a blurb, he'd give you a blurb in five minutes because the way he saw it, it was all publicity. Just write the blurb.

Speaker 1 People see your name, your name, your name, your name, Alan Watts.

Speaker 1 And that's a policy that I adopted. If someone asked me for a blurb for their book, I don't care how crappy the book is.

Speaker 34 I'll give them a blurb.

Speaker 85 Wow.

Speaker 86 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it doesn't take long. There's all kinds of ways you can put things with.

Speaker 58 So if I gave you a book right now,

Speaker 8 and the book was about uh here I'm gonna give you a title and then you write the blurb you ready because you're gonna write that's what I'm gonna ask you first will you write a blurb about my book regardless of course regardless of what it is yeah here's my book Jesus was a badass outlaw give me your blurb go

Speaker 1 a fascinating read by Adam Curry

Speaker 1 that's it that's the blurb that would be a blurb I could write a longer blurb or a shorter blurb I need more blurb uh I would say uh

Speaker 1 I've never,

Speaker 1 this is a book everyone should pick up and read. It's unbelievable how he's come to these conclusions.
This is something I highly recommend.

Speaker 162 Now I just got to write the book.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one of the things. Continuing.

Speaker 192 Noah Genda Nation, please search God's Eye View on Amazon and look for the book with the big black hole on the cover.

Speaker 107 For those who can't afford the book or are too cheap to buy it, please search God's Eye View in a modern podcast app to find my show.

Speaker 161 Four more years, says Sir Writer of Words.

Speaker 89 Thank you, sir, writer of words.

Speaker 168 We appreciate that.

Speaker 7 And good luck with the book.

Speaker 112 When it comes out in paperback, I will write a blurb.

Speaker 70 I know how to do it now.

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And she says, for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results.

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Speaker 1 some copyright stuff going on they're making a fuss about uh this

Speaker 18 is that with ai copyright stuff yeah yeah good

Speaker 1 so i have two clips that are at least somewhat enlightening i don't think it gets us anywhere but

Speaker 1 at least it shows that somebody's covering it. This, I think, NPR.

Speaker 46 NPR it is.

Speaker 226 The United States Copyright Office is normally kind of quiet, low drama. Authors and artists go there to register their works, and Congress goes there when it needs advice on copyright issues.

Speaker 226 But lately, between the firings and the lawsuits and a highly anticipated report on AI, the office is not so quiet. Here's NPR's Andrew Limbaugh.

Speaker 95 Let's start the story on a Thursday, May 8th.

Speaker 223 President Trump abruptly fired Carla Hayden, the librarian of Congress. The next day, May 9th, the U.S.

Speaker 223 Copyright Office, which resides within the Library of Congress, published a highly anticipated report on whether or not using copyrighted works to train generative AI counted as fair use.

Speaker 223 Funny thing is, this report was and still is labeled as a pre-publication version.

Speaker 248 That part is extremely weird. In fact, I don't think they've ever done that before.

Speaker 223 That's Dave Hanson, the executive director of the Authors Alliance, an organization that argues for less strict copyright laws, which is to say they interact regularly with the office.

Speaker 223 Anyway, that report dropped on a Friday.

Speaker 248 And then by Saturday, Shira Perlmutter, the head of the U.S.

Speaker 113 Copyright Office, had a letter telling her that she was dismissed.

Speaker 223 That letter was sent by Trent Morris, deputy assistant to the president.

Speaker 248 It seems like there must be some sort of connection between the timing of the release and all of that other drama, but we just don't really know exactly why.

Speaker 223 And we still don't quite yet.

Speaker 223 Perlmutter has since filed a lawsuit against President Trump, as well as the two people he appointed currently acting as the new Librarian of Congress and the Register of Copyrights, Todd Blanche and Paul Perkins.

Speaker 223 The argument being, since both the Library of Congress and the U.S. Copyright Office are under the legislative branch, the president has no authority to hire or fire people.

Speaker 248 Oh, really?

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's just firing anyway, he feels like.

Speaker 1 Give him something to do. This is part two.

Speaker 223 But people, broadly, in the copyright world, have been kind of stunned at how much their quiet neck of the woods has been shaken up.

Speaker 223 Cristelia Garcia is a professor at Georgetown Law focusing on intellectual property.

Speaker 250 Obviously, politically, things are all drama, drama, drama all the time now.

Speaker 250 But to have it come to the copyright office was quite a surprise for the copyright community who are sort of, you know, not used to being thrust into the spotlight, generally speaking, even with the sort of AI stuff.

Speaker 223 So what about that big bombshell report the Copyright Office published on generative AI?

Speaker 96 The one the office put out before it was finalized?

Speaker 223 Well, what it said was, in some instances, using copyrighted materials to train generative AI could qualify as fair use, and in some cases, it wouldn't.

Speaker 23 It is very even-keeled.

Speaker 223 That's Keith Cooper Schmidt, the CEO of the Copyright Alliance, a group that represents artists and publishers for stronger copyright laws.

Speaker 223 And he says, the report avoids generalizations and takes arguments on a case-by-case basis, which is reflective of how Perlmutter ran the office.

Speaker 207 Perlmutter was beloved no matter whether she agreed with you or not, because she always did the hard work.

Speaker 166 She always was very thoughtful and considers all these different viewpoints.

Speaker 223 There are dozens of lawsuits going on right now over copyright and AI usage.

Speaker 223 While it remains to be seen if and how the legal teams on either side will use this report, this is just the beginning, says Georgetown Professor Cristelia Garcia.

Speaker 250 This is just a foreshadowing of the front lines of the generative AI battle.

Speaker 249 I think copyright is really taking the sort of canary in the coal mine here.

Speaker 223 The warning being: if you haven't been paying attention to generative AI, now is a good time to start.

Speaker 63 Your analysis, Dr. Dvorek.

Speaker 1 Well, they told us nothing.

Speaker 124 Pretty much.

Speaker 110 In three minutes, two clips, nothing.

Speaker 1 And I don't know. I think it's my analysis is like everybody else's.
It's like, I don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 1 I think there's fair use issues here, but there's a lot of, you know,

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a lot of public domain material that the generative AI can suck up.

Speaker 1 And then once in a while, you get... I asked perplexity the other day something

Speaker 1 about.

Speaker 181 You are talking about it in a manner that sounds like it's a human.

Speaker 125 You are on a bad track.

Speaker 1 And it was wrong with this answer because I knew the answer. I was just looking for the details.

Speaker 2 Oh, no.

Speaker 8 It was wrong.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. And I find that it's wrong a lot.

Speaker 1 And I'm not sure why it's wrong because if you re

Speaker 1 this is a real problem, I think,

Speaker 1 especially people who go to,

Speaker 1 and some people do it on this show, and some people do it on the DH Unplugged show.

Speaker 1 I've seen this happen on real time, where the person will go to chat GPT or some AI to get a quick answer to a question.

Speaker 1 And I find that with the wrongness of a lot of these answers, and if you rephrase the question, it gets it right. This is a real problem in my mind.

Speaker 76 Well, that's because there's no intelligence involved.

Speaker 203 It can't understand the concept of the problem.

Speaker 1 Well, I know there's no intelligence involved, but the point is it's supposed to be a neural network

Speaker 1 in front of the corpus that

Speaker 1 analyzes. The whole key to the success is analyzing the question you ask it or analyzing the prompt you give it.

Speaker 1 And then reacting accordingly to the prompt using a neural network that's supposed to mimic intelligence.

Speaker 8 And it doesn't work well.

Speaker 85 No,

Speaker 8 it doesn't work well at all.

Speaker 1 Well, no, it works better than you like to imagine, but it doesn't work as well as I'd like.

Speaker 69 No, it doesn't work well.

Speaker 70 Maxine Waters is now in Los Angeles. There you go.

Speaker 214 She's at the protests.

Speaker 8 Oh,

Speaker 1 they got a showboat.

Speaker 203 They got professional signs, John.

Speaker 70 Professional signs at the already.

Speaker 72 Well, they've been there the whole time.

Speaker 14 So the quad box, everyone is live including the bbc

Speaker 207 and i think they're just waiting for someone to kick it off

Speaker 203 they're just waiting they're just standing two lines and waiting for somebody to take a shot yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 7 to throw or throw a molotov cocktail at so all the protesters are walking past the ice agents filming them live i'm live everybody right now i'm live we are brave we're brave we're standing up against the terror the terror the man the man Screw the man.

Speaker 161 It's like nokings.org. Make sure you go there on the 14th.

Speaker 18 We're streaming live.

Speaker 163 We're doing it live here on the Insta and on the TikToks.

Speaker 28 We're live everywhere, everybody.

Speaker 88 Yeah, yeah, we're not taking it anymore.

Speaker 145 We're not taking it from Trump.

Speaker 203 Tears will come from this.

Speaker 179 Someone is going to do something, and then they're going to get beaten upside the head.

Speaker 73 I can tell you right now, everyone's waiting for it.

Speaker 191 Everyone's glued in.

Speaker 173 They're just waiting for

Speaker 207 some douchebag, some instigator to to do something, and then it's gonna be messy.

Speaker 207 Ugh.

Speaker 181 So, okay, on the AI copyright, this is a story from the UK's, which is

Speaker 203 could be concerning, I guess, if you don't read your contracts from 10 years ago.

Speaker 8 You can do it when you be in QIT.

Speaker 252 Her face may not be recognizable, but Gayan is the voice behind adverts for some of Britain's biggest brands.

Speaker 249 Please lynch when alighting from this train.

Speaker 253 Now she's the unbeknown AI star announcer on board Scotland's trains.

Speaker 254 I feel violated. I feel completely violated.

Speaker 254 My voice is my job and I should be allowed to know who I'm working with and what I'm working on. But more than that, as a human being, I should know who owns my voice data.

Speaker 50 So just to be clear, you didn't know that you were going to be the voice of Scotland's railways.

Speaker 142 No, I had no idea.

Speaker 254 I literally didn't know.

Speaker 178 This can all be traced back to a job Gayan carried out during Covid with the Swedish firm Read Speaker, recording scripts for the visually impaired.

Speaker 178 It was before artificial intelligence was really a thing. Fast forward a few years, her voice has been sold and transformed into a robot.

Speaker 178 Unions representing the creative industry claim this is exploitation and points to wider AI concerns.

Speaker 254 I feel burgled. I feel like my data has been burgled.

Speaker 3 I don't know who holds it. I don't know what they're doing with it.

Speaker 254 I've no control over it and I don't consent to it.

Speaker 249 Do you know I'm the voice of Apple for Singapore?

Speaker 252 Read Speaker claims there is an agreement in place and all issues have been addressed. Scott Rail has no plans to stop using the voice.

Speaker 253 A story of consent, contracts, and concerns in an increasingly AI-focused world.

Speaker 88 Well, that's no good.

Speaker 179 Can you imagine that?

Speaker 105 I mean, being a voiceover artist is tough in general now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you don't make a lot of money. No.

Speaker 73 No. So

Speaker 14 they bought her voice.

Speaker 1 It was sampled by well, if she signed it over.

Speaker 8 Yep.

Speaker 1 This is like people who sign their rights over when they do writing and they sign all their rights over to some publisher. And then it turns out.

Speaker 186 And then it turns into a cloony movie.

Speaker 64 Good.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 23 And then you feel really bad about it.

Speaker 110 Hey, here's something I've been wondering for a long, for many, many years.

Speaker 14 If you are running for the governor of New York,

Speaker 119 Why do they call it a gubernatorial race?

Speaker 73 When does the B come into governor?

Speaker 1 That's a very good question.

Speaker 203 Does it borderline on a great question?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 there's no such thing.

Speaker 29 Can't you say a governor's race or governatorial?

Speaker 143 Why is it gubernatorial?

Speaker 107 Like, if you always make like goober, like a bunch of gubernators.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what there it is. You just answered your question.

Speaker 203 Because a governor is a goober.

Speaker 73 Well, there's a lot of goobers, and this is, you know, so they're debating right now.

Speaker 177 And of course, Cuomo is trying to come back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he's coming back as a mayor.

Speaker 129 I thought it was for the governor.

Speaker 1 No, no. Oh, this is the governor.
Cuomo wants to be mayor of the United States.

Speaker 75 Ah, well, my question is still valid.

Speaker 1 No, the question about gubernatorial is, yes.

Speaker 73 Well, this is about the mayor then. I'm sorry.

Speaker 207 For some reason, I mistook it for the gubernatorial race.

Speaker 195 So this is they're doing the debates, and Cuomo's in the debate.

Speaker 29 And this, by the way, goes against everything that I just said earlier about people leaving the show because, you know, we pander to the Jews for the Jew money.

Speaker 1 Yes, where's our Jew money? We may have gotten some spook money today, but we didn't get any Jew money that I can tell.

Speaker 28 It's no good.

Speaker 185 Here is

Speaker 29 an interesting question posed to the candidates for mayor of New York City.

Speaker 190 The first foreign visit by a mayor of New York is always considered significant. Where would you go first?

Speaker 20 That's right, Ms. Adams.

Speaker 198 First visit, I would visit the Holy Land.

Speaker 124 Okay, Ms. Lander.

Speaker 37 Mr. Lander, sorry.

Speaker 167 Boy, what Trump is doing to Canada, there's a lot of opportunities for us to partner better with them.

Speaker 1 Ms. Ramos.

Speaker 255 I'd love to meet Claudia Scheinbaum, but I'd probably head to Colombia to my parents' homeland.

Speaker 84 That was a good answer because you throw in a little bit of Jew there with Scheinbaum, but you're going to go to Colombia.

Speaker 31 That was good.

Speaker 140 Mr. Meyer?

Speaker 188 I am a proud son of two Caribbean immigrants. I represent a robust Caribbean constituency.
I'd like to go to the Caribbean as my first visit.

Speaker 181 You're off. You're not going to win.

Speaker 202 Mr. Cuomo?

Speaker 243 Given the hostility and the anti-Semitism that has been shown in New York, I would go to Israel.

Speaker 6 Very good.

Speaker 23 Mr. Tilson, where would you go?

Speaker 251 Yeah, I'd make my fourth trip to Israel followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine to invariably.

Speaker 6 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

Speaker 84 he's doubling up.

Speaker 159 He's going to go for his fifth trip and then to Ukraine, yes.

Speaker 13 Mr.

Speaker 23 Tilson, where would you go?

Speaker 251 Yeah, I'd make my fourth trip to Israel, followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine, two of our greatest allies fighting on the front lines of the global war on terror.

Speaker 26 Mr. Momdani.

Speaker 122 I would stay in New York City. My plans are to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that.

Speaker 19 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 255 Mr. Mamdani, can I just jump in?

Speaker 103 Oh, I want to jump in.

Speaker 249 Would you visit Israel?

Speaker 157 No, she said.

Speaker 49 She said, you.

Speaker 94 She said, would you.

Speaker 1 Would you?

Speaker 2 She said, Would you?

Speaker 122 Across the five boroughs and focus on that. Mr.

Speaker 255 Mamdani, can I just jump in? Would you visit Israel as mayor?

Speaker 122 I will be doing, as the mayor, I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers and I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the five boroughs, whether that's in their synagogues and temples or at their homes or at the subway platform.

Speaker 122 Because ultimately, we need to focus on delivering on their concerns.

Speaker 255 And just yes or no, do you believe in a Jewish state of Israel?

Speaker 122 I believe Israel has the right to exist.

Speaker 3 Not exactly. As as a Jewish state,

Speaker 122 as a state with equal rights.

Speaker 3 He won't

Speaker 3 say it has the right to exist as a Jewish state.

Speaker 243 And his answer was: no, he won't visit Israel.

Speaker 128 I said that's what he was trying to assist. No, no, no.

Speaker 128 Unlike you, I answered the question very directly. And I want to be very clear: I believe every state should be a state of Israel.

Speaker 8 He wouldn't say it.

Speaker 13 He wouldn't say it. He's no good.

Speaker 21 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Wow, what a bunch of rubes.

Speaker 2 New York is done.

Speaker 81 That was pretty. I thought that was hilarious.

Speaker 81 Oh,

Speaker 18 you just won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 28 Where are you going?

Speaker 8 Israel.

Speaker 3 Israel.

Speaker 64 Miss America.

Speaker 14 You just became the new Miss America.

Speaker 7 Where are you going?

Speaker 65 Tel Aviv.

Speaker 6 Oh, it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 1 they could have gone to visit a Bulgarian old folks home because all hell's breaking loose there. Oh, what's going on?

Speaker 50 This Bulgarian old folks horror.

Speaker 245 Bulgarian officials say they've rescued 75 residents from two illegal care homes where they were allegedly subjected to brutal mistreatment.

Speaker 245 They said the victims were beaten, bound, and sedated, with doors and windows locked. Justice Minister Georgi Gyorgiev described the facilities in the eastern village of Yagada as houses of horrors.

Speaker 245 Bulgaria has a shortage of good care homes for older people.

Speaker 102 Oh my.

Speaker 62 Do they have pictures and video?

Speaker 8 What's the horror?

Speaker 3 Beaten beaten.

Speaker 1 They take the old folks and they beat them. Wow.

Speaker 110 Bulgaria. What are you doing?

Speaker 216 Is there a color revolution going on in Bulgaria?

Speaker 14 Is there an election coming up?

Speaker 85 No, no, nothing.

Speaker 1 Turns out that's what they do to old people in Bulgaria. They beat them.

Speaker 10 It's coming to California soon, I hear.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it could be.

Speaker 73 The five-minute warning, you get one or two more clips.

Speaker 97 It's all up to you. Go.

Speaker 1 Well, okay. I have this.

Speaker 1 Every once in a while, there's one of these stories that comes up, and it's always the same kind of a thing going on.

Speaker 1 It's a very suspicious story and they're gonna they're gonna these are all seem like uh spooky stories because they it's like you they got somebody and you got to debrief them or you've got to get them out of the country or you got to you got to rescue them or somebody some like it's like a CIA guy and it always goes through and I have no idea why the detainment centers in Louisiana.

Speaker 1 Have you noticed this Louisiana thing keeps cropping up? No. Play this Russian.
This is the Russian frog

Speaker 2 smuggler.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 244 A judge in Vermont today ordered the release of a Russian-born scientist and Harvard researcher saying she was being unlawfully held by immigration authorities.

Speaker 244 Kasenia Petrova, who recently spoke to NewsHour from detention, still faces a criminal charge of smuggling frog embryos after she failed to declare them at Boston's Logan Airport in February.

Speaker 244 Petrova says she uses them for research. An immigration officer stripped Petrova of her visa and she was sent to an ICE facility in Louisiana.

Speaker 244 At a hearing today, Judge Christina Reese said, quote, there does not seem to be either a factual or legal basis for the immigration officer's actions.

Speaker 244 Petrova is expected to face a bail hearing next week on the smuggling charge.

Speaker 8 Okay, well, that is interesting.

Speaker 196 I happen to know a couple of people here in Fredericksburg who moved recently from Louisiana

Speaker 75 and they grew up there, so they may have some inside information for me.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's ICE detention centers all over the place, but these super suspicious-sounding stories like this one: Russian woman, a professor teaching, brings in some embryos.

Speaker 1 I don't know how they found those, but they did.

Speaker 40 There's like a setup.

Speaker 1 And they move her to this facility in Louisiana. It's always Louisiana.

Speaker 112 They do ask at

Speaker 12 customs, you know, do you have any plants, animals, or fruit?

Speaker 46 And if you lie, then you get detained. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But who's gonna, how are you gonna

Speaker 107 you could?

Speaker 1 It doesn't make sense. This whole story just makes no sense.
I don't see how anybody can't easily take some frog embryos and stuff them in a Coke can and take it through customs.

Speaker 1 I mean, or guys, you can't get through because it's got liquid, but I mean, there's ways. If you're smuggling frog embryos, it seems to me you know what you're doing.

Speaker 50 Hey, hey, ho, ho.

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Speaker 124 Hey, hey, ho, ho.

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It's a sad puppy, sad looking in a dryer,

Speaker 3 which you'd have to assume is pre-suicidal or something.

Speaker 66 This goes to my theory that people don't care what you do to other people, but man, you do something to a dog,

Speaker 155 it's the end of you.

Speaker 1 So the dog's in the dryer, and somebody said, one of the producers says, that's in poor taste.

Speaker 1 Scolding me for it.

Speaker 1 Nancy Murphy came in twice. Okay, well, she's actually 110.
Trey Funderberg in Missoula, Montana, 55.

Speaker 79 Troy, Troy, Troy Funderberg.

Speaker 15 Troy, I always do that.

Speaker 1 Okay, here's another Dutchman.

Speaker 8 Rolene von der Haar.

Speaker 60 It's probably a Dutch girl in Holland Schaefer.

Speaker 85 It's a girl. Rolene.

Speaker 1 Holland Schafeldt.

Speaker 3 52.

Speaker 1 In Holland Schavelt.

Speaker 97 5272.

Speaker 1 52.72. Brittany Miller, also 52.

Speaker 14 We got women. They're women right here.
Look at these women.

Speaker 8 Trinidad Kelly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, those are the two.

Speaker 47 Nancy, Rolene, Brittany.

Speaker 126 Come on.

Speaker 1 Christian Hartsock,

Speaker 1 Burbank, California. He's one of our regulars.
5194. I did a, I helped.
He substituted on OAN for Chanel over the weekend. Oh, really?

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's apparently a writer for OANN, you know. Oh, Won American News?

Speaker 69 Yeah. Oh, cool.

Speaker 8 Hey, Roger.

Speaker 2 And I did a hit.

Speaker 14 Oh, you did a hit on OAN?

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Well, how come you didn't tell me?

Speaker 8 I just did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean, did it go in advance? No.

Speaker 1 It's because you do so many podcasts and you never mention anything to me. And then all of a sudden, it shows up in a donation note.
And I go, What, what is this?

Speaker 1 So I'm doing the same.

Speaker 1 I'm on the move.

Speaker 17 John's doing PR, everybody.

Speaker 8 He did a hit on OAN.

Speaker 90 All for Roger Palich

Speaker 1 in Norcross, Georgia, 5510. He needs a dedouching.

Speaker 200 You've been dedouched.

Speaker 39 So

Speaker 1 Zia Thomas in Ankini, Iowa, 51. And now we got the $50 donor's name and location.

Speaker 1 Starting with not a lot today. Jacob Rotmatrommel.
Rotrommel in Decatur, Illinois. Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington.
Ray Howard in Kremling, Colorado. Edward Missouri in Memphis.

Speaker 1 Christopher Scott in Fort Washington, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 Renee Bernhard

Speaker 119 Goethe.

Speaker 1 She's

Speaker 1 in Switzerland.

Speaker 40 Bernhard's Grutter.

Speaker 253 Bernhard's Gutter.

Speaker 213 Grutter.

Speaker 1 Grutter. She's in Saint-Gallien.
Saint-Gallen. She greets St.

Speaker 77 Bernard's.

Speaker 1 And she's... Well, it was St.
Bernard's or in Switzerland.

Speaker 168 Yes.

Speaker 1 That's nice to have a Swiss donor.

Speaker 1 That came in Stripe. International

Speaker 214 producers.

Speaker 214 Stripe.

Speaker 1 Stripe is the way to go for international donations. Cal Rae Jackson in Watertown, Tennessee.
And last on our list is the good old Jason DeLuzio in Miami Beach, Florida.

Speaker 1 I want to thank all these people for show 1771.

Speaker 98 Yes, indeed.

Speaker 70 Thank you all very much.

Speaker 97 And again, thank you to those donors who came in and supporters and producers who came in under $50.

Speaker 108 We never mentioned them for reasons of anonymity.

Speaker 207 And of course, you can set up a sustaining donation at any time, any kind of donation, any amount.

Speaker 111 It's value for value.

Speaker 41 Whatever you get out of the show, send it back to us and value them.

Speaker 29 that's just fine for some people five dollars is a lot for some people 500 is a lot or not it doesn't matter just as long as you support us at some point somehow to give back to the show that's value for value

Speaker 73 again thanks to our executive and associate executive producers for episode uh wow what is it episode 1771 of palindrome and strangely enough For the first time in as long as I can remember, we do not have a single birthday to celebrate.

Speaker 8 When has that happened?

Speaker 142 Has that ever happened?

Speaker 90 Yeah, it has.

Speaker 136 A couple times, actually.

Speaker 216 I don't recall.

Speaker 114 Well, so no birthdays.

Speaker 176 So no happy birthdays to you.

Speaker 7 However,

Speaker 4 title changes. Turn and face the slaves.

Speaker 146 We do have a couple of title changes.

Speaker 140 We've got Sarah Dirty's Jersey Whore, as you heard earlier, our top executive producer today, who becomes a baronet.

Speaker 77 Dame Nancy of the Confused also changing her title today, becoming a baroness.

Speaker 62 So yes, very, very beautiful.

Speaker 163 And Sir Dirty Jersey Whore also gets his PhD.

Speaker 66 We have that special promotion which has come back for a limited time, limited time only.

Speaker 29 Go to noagendarings.com, Dirty Jersey Whore, let us know where to send your PhD and if you really want Sir Dirty Jersey Whore on it or maybe your actual name so you can use it to impress your friends and the neighbors.

Speaker 8 And we have one night.

Speaker 143 So I'll grab my blade here if you can.

Speaker 1 Here's the same old one night blade I've got.

Speaker 11 Oh, it's nice.

Speaker 90 It's sharp.

Speaker 4 As long as it's sharp, it's fine.

Speaker 14 Trevor Lohman, it's taking you a bit, but we're happy to see you here at the podium for the dames and knights of the No Agenda Roundtable because you have supported the best podcast in the universe in the amount of $1,000 or more.

Speaker 163 That means I get to pronounce you, sir, as Sir Writer of Words.

Speaker 227 And for you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Red Boys, and Chardonnay.

Speaker 63 We've got some Diet Soda and Video Games, fish pie and fellatio, harlots and haldahl.

Speaker 227 We've got redheads and rise, beers and blunts, Rubiness, women, and rose, geishas and sake, vodka manila, bongheads and bourbon, sparkling sidear and escorts, ginger, ale and gerbils, a favorite in Hollywood, breast milk and pablum, and as always, the mutton and the meat here at the round table for you.

Speaker 191 And you also can go to noagendarings.com. Anybody can go there and take a look at them.

Speaker 14 And it's a cumulative, so you can donate $5 a month if you want.

Speaker 148 People become knights and dames.

Speaker 18 It's really cool.

Speaker 192 And this ring is a signet ring.

Speaker 70 It's uh, it looks very, very cool at the No Agenda Meetups.

Speaker 88 And so, for that reason, we give you a couple of sticks of wax you can melt down and stick your signet ring right on there and let everybody know that this is a very important correspondence.

Speaker 113 And as always, it comes with a certificate of authenticity signed by yours truly, Adam and John.

Speaker 4 No agenda meetups.

Speaker 73 Yeah, everybody, the No Agenda Meetups, another great way to send value back to the show and to Gitmo Nation in general by organizing a No Agenda Meetup.

Speaker 73 You can go to Noagendameetups.com, another fantastic website we never built, done in the value-for-value model.

Speaker 110 Thank you, Sir Daniel, for that.

Speaker 109 We got a report from Brussels, the big Brussels meetup.

Speaker 109 It seems like Sircastic the Nomad was there by himself.

Speaker 8 He did get one RSVP from Alex, who lives in Brussels.

Speaker 124 Unfortunately, his two girlfriends from from Colombia arrived early in Brussels, and he decided to stay home with them.

Speaker 195 And he sent me a picture, and I think he made the right choice.

Speaker 181 A picture of Alex with his two Colombian girlfriends.

Speaker 46 Doesn't sound suspicious.

Speaker 1 He brought the girlfriends to the meetup.

Speaker 16 I think so, too.

Speaker 129 But he didn't.

Speaker 52 Big Tom's Bar was a great venue. Unbeknownst to me, it is a NATO hangout bar.

Speaker 139 Lots of spooky people drinking Belgian beer.

Speaker 73 I'm always amazed what a drunk soldier will tell you.

Speaker 35 Do tell, sir Castic the Nomad.

Speaker 73 We'd love to hear more.

Speaker 29 And Sir Dirty Jersey Whore, as you recall on the last show,

Speaker 73 excuse me, for his meetup promo, the Texas, the East Texas No Agenda meetup,

Speaker 192 we excoriated him for sending in a two-minute

Speaker 29 meet-up promo.

Speaker 8 You remember this?

Speaker 1 You excoriated him.

Speaker 104 No, you did too. You said it should be 30 seconds tops.

Speaker 40 I did say that.

Speaker 1 He sent us not in the form of an excoriation.

Speaker 88 Well, he sent us a new one.

Speaker 95 It is 33 seconds exactly, which I think is valid.

Speaker 20 That's okay.

Speaker 40 And he put up with that.

Speaker 62 And listen to this.

Speaker 256 Hey, there, freedom lovers and media deconstructors. Are you tired of screaming at the screen alone? Wish you had someone to compare your shrunken amygdala with.
Well, do we have a meetup for you?

Speaker 256 It's all going down Sunday, June 29th at 3:33 p.m. in Longview, Texas.
Go over to noagendametup.com and let us know you are coming or just show up. Again, that's June 29th, 3:33 p.m.
Longview, Texas.

Speaker 256 Be there or be labeled a conspiracy denier.

Speaker 256 Common side effects may include mild dizziness, nausea, spontaneous lactation, sudden urges to gamble or engage in risky sexual behavior, sleep driving, sleep eating, sleep shopping, uncontrollable laughter, explosive diarrhea, anal leakage, blue-gray skin discoloration, hallucinations, black hairy tongue, unexpected hair growth in unusual places, purple urine or sweat, permanent loss of taste or smell, false positive drug test, pain eyelid enlargement, and in rare cases, existential dread.

Speaker 256 Ask your conspiracy therapist if this meetup is right for you. Brought to you by Dana Brunetti.

Speaker 1 That sounds like a Fremont drag strip commercial from back in the 60s and 70s.

Speaker 159 That was outstanding.

Speaker 1 Sunday, Sunday, Sunday is all that was missing.

Speaker 7 33 nitro-burning funny cars.

Speaker 175 That's right.

Speaker 29 Well, on Sunday, this Sunday, the fourth annual Louisiana Crawfish Boil kicks off at 2 o'clock at Shaw Acres.

Speaker 104 That's Prairieville, Louisiana.

Speaker 192 Hey, Mary Moon organizing.

Speaker 110 Let us know what you know about the ICE detention centers.

Speaker 186 It's a little spooky down there.

Speaker 207 By the way, it is an RSVP invite.

Speaker 46 I think it's at her home, so you've got a

Speaker 95 check-in to be checked out.

Speaker 1 By the way, to interrupt you in the midst of this, I have to say the Jersey Dirty Whore

Speaker 39 quickie was well done.

Speaker 1 Well done.

Speaker 54 Well done indeed.

Speaker 126 The Northern Wake Freedom Southern Slam-O-Wamo, six o'clock on Thursday at Hoppy Endings in Raleigh, North Carolina.

Speaker 73 Make sure you check that out.

Speaker 185 Coming up next week, the 13th, Copenhagen, Denmark.

Speaker 64 We have Lazarus Vaard in Kuhlenburg.

Speaker 222 I'm just doing the international ones.

Speaker 14 Comox, British Columbia.

Speaker 126 That's Candinavia.

Speaker 110 17th, Cannes in France.

Speaker 88 We've never had good luck in Cannes.

Speaker 108 No one ever shows up to those meetups.

Speaker 165 So please, please give it a shot.

Speaker 58 And on the 19th of September, we're way ahead now, Tilburg,

Speaker 73 Nord Brabond in the Netherlands.

Speaker 52 So go to noagendameetups.com.

Speaker 73 There's always a cool meetup taking place.

Speaker 173 It's all around the world, as you can tell.

Speaker 181 And when you do a meetup report, make it fun, make it interesting, try and make it short, and always include your server and tip them well.

Speaker 192 Noagendametups.com.

Speaker 161 If you can't find where near you, start one yourself.

Speaker 9 It's always a party.

Speaker 4 Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

Speaker 4 You wanna be where you won't be triggered or hell lame.

Speaker 4 You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

Speaker 4 It's like a party.

Speaker 162 All right, now to make up for the end of show mixes, we'll have a very snappy ISO for you at the end, which will just because that truly is the last thing that people hear.

Speaker 207 So this kind of discredits your theory.

Speaker 18 It makes people happy.

Speaker 8 They're like, oh, this was great.

Speaker 14 I really loved hearing that end of show ISO.

Speaker 119 I feel good about the show.

Speaker 1 Doesn't the end of the end of show ISO come before the mix?

Speaker 123 No, it comes at the very, very end of the show.

Speaker 8 Have you ever listened to the podcast?

Speaker 1 No, I never listened.

Speaker 136 I have two.

Speaker 126 Okay, probably don't like that one.

Speaker 52 But I kind of thought this one was okay.

Speaker 193 This doesn't make any sense. I'm freaking out inside.

Speaker 8 You laugh through it.

Speaker 193 This doesn't make any sense. I'm freaking out inside.

Speaker 14 I'm freaking out inside.

Speaker 85 Oh, God.

Speaker 47 I liked it.

Speaker 1 If you took that part off, it would be good.

Speaker 193 This doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 46 Like that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think

Speaker 1 that beats mine.

Speaker 89 Well, let's listen to yours.

Speaker 200 Thanks for spending your weekend with us.

Speaker 62 Wow, that's AI if I ever heard one.

Speaker 2 Nope.

Speaker 3 Really?

Speaker 83 Thanks for spending your weekend with us.

Speaker 1 It's that black chick, whatever her name is, that does the weekend shows with Scott and the other people.

Speaker 50 No, that's a real person.

Speaker 172 Oh, you like mine better?

Speaker 193 This doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 247 Well, we'll keep that one, and we will get the weekend kicking now with John's tip of the day.

Speaker 134 Great masks for you and me.

Speaker 4 Just the tip with JCD

Speaker 160 and sometimes Adam.

Speaker 107 Created by Dana Bernetti.

Speaker 1 All right, this is the time of the year to plant.

Speaker 202 Is it now?

Speaker 7 Not in Texas.

Speaker 1 Well, actually, this would be fine in Texas too.

Speaker 1 This is a site. It's called the Chili Pepper Institute.

Speaker 1 And it is run out of New Mexico State University. And they have, they sell

Speaker 1 over a hundred varieties of hot chilies.

Speaker 1 The seeds. They're a little, I think they're pricey.

Speaker 40 The seeds are

Speaker 1 pricier than I like, but it's five bucks a pack. But there's some of the more, lots of scorpion peppers, all kinds of screwball peppers you've never had.

Speaker 1 You don't see them, not commercial, and they're there, and they claim that the seeds are all very viable. So you plant these seeds, they're going to grow.

Speaker 1 And I would recommend planting some chilies.

Speaker 50 Chilies. And

Speaker 1 they have all of them.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, they don't have all of them because there's thousands, but they have over 100 varieties, including a bunch of scorpion peppers.

Speaker 1 They don't have the Carolina Reaper, for example, I don't think.

Speaker 23 That must actually copyright the Carolina Reaper.

Speaker 1 Well, that's a tough one.

Speaker 50 But

Speaker 1 I finally found

Speaker 1 a website that

Speaker 1 you can write down. CPI for Chili Pepper Institute.

Speaker 1 NMSU, New Mexico State University, dot edu.

Speaker 1 And just click on the store, online store, and knock yourself out.

Speaker 63 What is the appropriate or best way to plant your chilies?

Speaker 8 They have all kinds of

Speaker 1 information on the site.

Speaker 1 They grow like a tomato.

Speaker 1 If you know how to grow a tomato planting footage, you can get those little seedling pots

Speaker 1 and put them in the window and get the thing started. Once it gets started, you got it made.

Speaker 81 So you grow it up indoors.

Speaker 89 You grow it indoors, not outdoors.

Speaker 8 You could.

Speaker 1 No, I would start it indoors and I would take it outdoors. Or you could just plant it outdoors if you can keep it so it germinates.
You got got to make sure it germinates.

Speaker 247 Make sure you germinate your peppers, everybody. There it is.
Once again, a fantastic John C. Dvorak sip of the day.

Speaker 4 Great master you and me. Just a tip with JCD.

Speaker 1 And if anybody grows anything weird, because there's lots of weird peppers in here, send me a couple.

Speaker 66 Send John a couple of weird peppers.

Speaker 45 Once you pick a peck of pickled peppers, send them to Dvorak.

Speaker 109 And that concludes our broadcast day, everybody.

Speaker 23 Remember,

Speaker 73 just plug your eardrums because, man, we got Sir Ducifer

Speaker 14 and Sir Scovey with end of show mixes. Oh, no!

Speaker 3 Uh-oh.

Speaker 109 John C. Dvorak says, does better.

Speaker 62 Do better.

Speaker 18 Does better.

Speaker 50 Just do better.

Speaker 46 I like him.

Speaker 58 But I like all kinds of crap.

Speaker 104 Coming up next on your No Agenda stream, we have the Mere Mortals Book Reviews.

Speaker 76 Oh, this is Adapt or Die, the youth spy who sparked a passion for discipline.

Speaker 23 Hmm, Stormbreaker book review.

Speaker 73 It's Kyron from down under doing that.

Speaker 97 I look forward to that.

Speaker 192 And we will gladly be back with you on Thursday and we'll bring you more.

Speaker 104 Multiple hours of media deconstruction.

Speaker 17 Still waiting for it to kick off in Los Angeles or to pop off.

Speaker 7 And I'm here in the heart of the Texas Hill Country.

Speaker 1 In the morning, everybody, Madam Curry, and from northern Silicon Valley, where the National Guard is not here. I'm John C.
Dvorak.

Speaker 247 Remember us at noagendadonations.com until Thursday.

Speaker 5 Adios move hoes or hooey hooey and sun.

Speaker 91 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Rule, what is that stuff?

Speaker 91 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Real, what is that stuff?

Speaker 91 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Real, what is that stuff?

Speaker 91 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Rule, what is that stuff?

Speaker 36 Hydrazine, not hydrazine, hydrazine, not hydrazine, hydrazine, not hydrazine, hydrazine, not hydrazine.

Speaker 91 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Bro, what is that stuff?

Speaker 91 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Bro, what is that stuff?

Speaker 91 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Bro, what is that stuff?

Speaker 3 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Bro, what is that stuff?

Speaker 36 Hydrazine, not hydrazine. Hydrazine, not hydrazine.
Hydrazine, not hydrazine. Hydrazine, not hydrazine.

Speaker 3 It's all bullcrap?

Speaker 1 All of it is always a big butt.

Speaker 3 That's all bullcrap.

Speaker 1 All of it is always a big butt.

Speaker 53 That's all bull crap.

Speaker 1 All of it is always a big butt.

Speaker 11 The hydro booster.

Speaker 8 Hydro booster.

Speaker 3 Zero point energy.

Speaker 11 The hydro booster.

Speaker 8 Hydra hydro booster.

Speaker 3 Zero point energy.

Speaker 1 Is always a big butt.

Speaker 1 There's always a big butt. It's always a big butt.
Boom.

Speaker 91 What is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Rule, what is that stuff?

Speaker 91 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Rule, what is that stuff?

Speaker 91 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 8 Real, what is that stuff?

Speaker 3 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 8 Real, what is that stuff?

Speaker 11 Hydrogen, hydrogen, hydrogen, hydrogen, hydrogen, hydrogen, hydrogen, hydrogen.

Speaker 50 Exactly.

Speaker 1 There's always a big boom.

Speaker 91 What is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Room, what is that stuff?

Speaker 91 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Real, what is that stuff?

Speaker 91 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Bro, what is that stuff?

Speaker 91 Boom, what is that stuff?

Speaker 39 Bro, what is that stuff?

Speaker 207 There's always a big butt.

Speaker 234 Aluminium.

Speaker 225 And can we get an opinion on the pronunciation of aluminum?

Speaker 38 On steel and aluminium.

Speaker 86 Aluminium.

Speaker 225 Is it aluminium?

Speaker 232 Aluminium.

Speaker 232 All this talking, you will see terrifist reality.

Speaker 232 twenty-five per cent relay Glow with fires they rage

Speaker 232 terrorist fear

Speaker 232 Aluminium

Speaker 232 Aluminium

Speaker 232 Steel Saloon

Speaker 232 Aluminium

Speaker 232 And can we get in the vitamin on the pronunciation of aluminum?

Speaker 232 Is it aluminium?

Speaker 232 No force him to keep it in.

Speaker 232 Terrorists, damn it, just this.

Speaker 232 They say it's right, they say it's wrong. Just to save us,

Speaker 232 keep us strong.

Speaker 232 Aluminum

Speaker 232 Terrorist League

Speaker 232 Alumina

Speaker 232 Steel Saloon

Speaker 232 Alumina

Speaker 232 Steel

Speaker 232 British love calling it aluminium

Speaker 232 The best podcast in the universe

Speaker 232 Mofo Devorak.org slash n a

Speaker 232 this doesn't make any sense