1761 - "News Desert"

Speaker 1 I want a watercolor of my dog.

Speaker 2 Adam Curry, John C.

Speaker 3 Dvorak.

Speaker 4 It's Sunday, May 4th, 2025.

Speaker 5 This is your award-winning Guinea Media Assassination episode 1761.

Speaker 3 This is no agenda.

Speaker 7 Digging in the news deserts and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six.

Speaker 9 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 3 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're celebrating the Sanco de Mayo Show Special. I'm John C.
Devorak. It's Craig Bottom Boskill in the morning.

Speaker 11 You know, it's Sanco de Quatro.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know. It's the fourth.

Speaker 3 May the fourth be with you.

Speaker 13 May the fourth be with you.

Speaker 14 Yes, indeed.

Speaker 16 And we just missed it in the Netherlands on May 4th at 8 p.m.

Speaker 20 I think we've talked about this before.

Speaker 21 At 8 p.m., everybody stops.

Speaker 25 The bells toll for, I think it's one or two minutes, and we have a moment of silence for the victims of World War II.

Speaker 29 Because tomorrow is Liberation Day in Europe.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 33 Which is.

Speaker 3 We don't even celebrate any of that here.

Speaker 34 I'm so confused about, you know, we've got.

Speaker 3 We've given up.

Speaker 36 We've got May 5th.

Speaker 18 We got May 9th.

Speaker 3 We've given up taking credit for anything.

Speaker 38 We got May 9th.

Speaker 39 Yes. We got May 9th.

Speaker 40 President Trump.

Speaker 42 April 29th was,

Speaker 30 was it 1606 that they landed and founded Jamestown?

Speaker 44 We got all kinds of proclamations.

Speaker 46 I need to get that going again.

Speaker 47 I used to track all the proclamations.

Speaker 11 Obama was really, really good at it.

Speaker 21 And then we got, I don't think Trump did many of that in the first term, but Biden did nothing except for

Speaker 51 Trans Awareness Day.

Speaker 2 Trans Awareness Day.

Speaker 3 Which was Eastern Eastern.

Speaker 53 So I got to keep tracking that.

Speaker 26 President Trump is doing a lot of these things.

Speaker 35 Oh, wait. Was oh, May 6th?

Speaker 54 That's right.

Speaker 13 Thank you, melkard may 6 uh pim for tan was murdered in the netherlands and that was now crap what is that that's that'll be 25 years ago i think

Speaker 3 he was he was the guy that uh he won posthumously they assassinated him two weeks before the election yeah and like a knife in his heart no no no that was theo for hoch no they shot him in the head at the radio station Oh, he was shot in the head at the radio station.

Speaker 57 That's what I just said yesterday.

Speaker 3 There's no security at the radio station, apparently.

Speaker 33 Well, there was, but

Speaker 58 it was outside in the parking lot.

Speaker 54 He had just walked outside and then Folkert from the Graf.

Speaker 3 We had a famous Denver, this years ago, 30-plus years ago, as a famous Denver shock jock

Speaker 3 that was shot in the parking lot.

Speaker 60 Yeah, who was that? I forget that story.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you remember that guy, yeah. Yeah, that guy.

Speaker 49 You remember that guy?

Speaker 7 But this was a politician.

Speaker 61 And it was 23 years ago, right?

Speaker 62 And the guy who killed him is out free.

Speaker 33 The Dutch man, it's crazy.

Speaker 52 Why not?

Speaker 66 Hey, why not? You know,

Speaker 67 he served his time.

Speaker 68 Yeah, Pim's never coming back, but let him walk around.

Speaker 70 It's all good.

Speaker 16 You can't even say his name in the media.

Speaker 71 You have to say Folkert Vander G.

Speaker 46 You can't say his last name because he has protection.

Speaker 26 He has rights.

Speaker 48 He has rights.

Speaker 69 Yeah, you laugh, but it's pathetic.

Speaker 3 It is pathetic. It's really really pathetic.
It's great.

Speaker 58 Hey, good news.

Speaker 40 The Press Freedom Index is out.

Speaker 19 The Press Freedom Index, everybody.

Speaker 74 Which is a big deal in press land.

Speaker 3 Yeah, especially if you're a left-winger. Yes.

Speaker 38 Well, let's have a listen here as to who's the best, who's number one at press freedom.

Speaker 78 The European press is suffocating. While the continent remains the leading region in the World Press Freedom Index, published on Friday by Reporters Without Borders, the situation is deteriorating.

Speaker 79 Economic difficulties are threatening editorial offices, especially independent ones.

Speaker 78 The media are facing both the end of American aid and the strengthening of Russian propaganda.

Speaker 33 Oh, Norway.

Speaker 3 So it's American aid that makes press freedom a big deal. Oh, yeah.
Without American aid,

Speaker 3 they can't do anything because they're too stupid. They need American aid.

Speaker 59 Wait until you hear the list.

Speaker 78 Norway, Estonia, and the Netherlands dominate this ranking.

Speaker 81 This is the best.

Speaker 82 Number three in press freedom on the list is the Netherlands.

Speaker 33 Are you kidding me?

Speaker 63 One of the most suppressed countries news-wise in the world.

Speaker 6 Oh, no.

Speaker 33 Number three.

Speaker 3 Well, already this list is suspect.

Speaker 33 You think?

Speaker 78 Conversely, Greece, Serbia, and Kosovo are the continent's lowest-ranked countries. Within the European Union, Athens comes last.

Speaker 87 In Greece, press freedom is really suffocated by the impunity of crimes committed against journalists. Here, I'm talking about the assassination of journalist Georgios Caravas in 2021.

Speaker 41 There has been one trial so far, and the accused have been acquitted.

Speaker 4 Hungary. Why? Why?

Speaker 3 Something happened in 2021.

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So that puts them at the bottom of the list in 2025.

Speaker 33 It's kind of like the Oscars, the way they do this.

Speaker 70 It's bullcrap, but everyone's talking about it.

Speaker 33 Oh,

Speaker 67 the press freedom index is out.

Speaker 3 It seems to be just because of how many journalists were murdered.

Speaker 95 Well, that gives you negative points, yes.

Speaker 29 They actually explain.

Speaker 41 Have been acquitted?

Speaker 86 Hungary, singled out for its attacks on the rule of law, ranks higher than Greece.

Speaker 78 But it owes this to the fact that no journalist has been killed, explains Reporters Without Borders.

Speaker 82 Well, get on the stick, Hungary.

Speaker 80 Shoot some of those people. Shoot them.

Speaker 6 You're not doing a good job.

Speaker 78 The organization points out that the Hungarian Prime Minister uses other means to control information. Some 80% of editorial offices are controlled by people close to Viktor Orban.

Speaker 78 While Europe remains the safest zone for the media, Reporters Without Borders stresses that the Union must remain vigilant.

Speaker 87 And the precise.

Speaker 68 It's so interesting.

Speaker 29 Well, I'll finish. Seven seconds, I'll finish.

Speaker 87 The precise reason is the adoption last year of the European Media Freedom Act by the European Union, which is historic legislation.

Speaker 19 So, where do you think we are on the list?

Speaker 46 We're down two spots, by the way, from last year.

Speaker 3 This is

Speaker 3 around 20.

Speaker 53 57.

Speaker 3 We're on 57. Yeah, and you know what?

Speaker 3 Because

Speaker 22 President Trump has such good relationships with the press.

Speaker 33 This is insane.

Speaker 49 At the bottom, you can already guess.

Speaker 99 100 and let's see, where's Russia?

Speaker 84 Russia, 171.

Speaker 19 Djibouti,

Speaker 33 Egypt is higher than Russia.

Speaker 101 So yeah, the top five.

Speaker 13 Press freedom, best places to be a journalist.

Speaker 102 Norway, Estonia, Netherlands, Sweden,

Speaker 51 Sweden, where all they do is lie about the immigrant situation.

Speaker 106 Finland, Denmark, Ireland, Portugal.

Speaker 107 Well, we know Portugal.

Speaker 108 They lie about their outage.

Speaker 61 Switzerland.

Speaker 102 Germany.

Speaker 109 Germany, number 11.

Speaker 29 Yeah, the more you suppress your people, the more press freedom you have.

Speaker 3 Germany's 11?

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's ridiculous.

Speaker 61 Yeah, right ahead of Liechtenstein, who I think the only people who live there are journalists.

Speaker 110 How many people live in Liechtenstein?

Speaker 111 Lichtenstein.

Speaker 112 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Liechtenstein.

Speaker 56 I know. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 Well, when we get some Liechtensteiners to donate to the show, maybe we can be a little more genteel.

Speaker 85 So, of course, this comes at an opportune moment where we have all kinds of issues in America where we are suppressing the free press.

Speaker 39 We're shutting down Voice of America.

Speaker 63 And oh, no, NPR, PBS.

Speaker 115 More on that. Let's bring in Clayton Wymos.

Speaker 116 He's the U.S.

Speaker 3 Oh, wait, stop, stop the clip again. I'm going to be interruptive.

Speaker 99 You are interruptive today.

Speaker 118 It's okay.

Speaker 3 Remember, as we listen to the NPR and PBS complaining, the total loss of income to these operations, if the government stops giving him money, which they will, and they have, I guess, guess, I guess Trump did something,

Speaker 3 is 1%.

Speaker 3 1%.

Speaker 3 Remember that.

Speaker 16 It's $500 million,

Speaker 61 according to Ms.

Speaker 109 Meyer. Mehr.

Speaker 28 Meyer.

Speaker 20 But let's just continue.

Speaker 61 This is a report from France, Van Catra.

Speaker 115 To more on that, let's bring in Clayton Wymers. He's the U.S.

Speaker 120 Executive Director of Reporters Without Borders. Such a pleasure to

Speaker 120 have you with us on the program today.

Speaker 115 As we just saw in that report, for the first time in history, the Bain Index for press freedom is at its lowest ever score.

Speaker 115 Working with the United States, help us get a grasp of just how much press freedom has slipped under Donald Trump.

Speaker 121 Thank you for having me.

Speaker 44 It is important.

Speaker 36 He's been there for 100 days.

Speaker 51 Already, press freedom slipping.

Speaker 122 All we see is press about him.

Speaker 41 Negative.

Speaker 64 All of it, except for Fox, who are all positive.

Speaker 7 Both sides of the same coin.

Speaker 65 Bullfight.

Speaker 3 But it's 85% of them are negative. That number's been floating around.

Speaker 36 Yeah, well, then how come it's slipping?

Speaker 121 Remember that the index is a snapshot in time of the previous year. All the data we collected is from 2024.

Speaker 121 And so the decline in the United States is really one that's been going on for the better part of a decade.

Speaker 45 Under Biden, I guess.

Speaker 121 You know, when we first started doing the index in 2002, the United States ranked 17th in the world. It's now down to 57th out of 180 countries.

Speaker 121 And that is reflected in the fact that we're at number 57.

Speaker 121 All five indicators that we measure have been taking hits year after year, especially the economic indicator due to massive layoffs in the media industry and the closure of newsrooms all across the country, triggering the East Desert problem.

Speaker 121 But in recent years, it's really become a political and cultural problem with the massive decline in trust between the public and the media and outright attacks by politicians,

Speaker 121 in particular, President Donald Trump.

Speaker 121 I should add, though, that everything that's happened in President Trump's second administration for the past hundred or so days has not been counted in the index data.

Speaker 121 So the decline is continuing before our very eyes.

Speaker 4 Things are only getting worse.

Speaker 97 It's only getting worse during Trump, even though in 84 years.

Speaker 37 No daughter.

Speaker 111 There's no data, but

Speaker 3 it's getting worse somehow.

Speaker 13 Here's what's so interesting.

Speaker 11 They don't take the

Speaker 33 plethora of alternative media into account whatsoever.

Speaker 33 There's been nothing but more, more press freedom.

Speaker 68 Go look at the Midas Touch folks,

Speaker 28 if you believe them.

Speaker 6 But I think maybe

Speaker 3 there's a lot of them.

Speaker 126 But maybe that's the point is that

Speaker 13 there's too much press freedom. And the people who consider it their job to be journalists, who have data,

Speaker 54 that they think, oh,

Speaker 76 we can't, it's slipping because all this fake news is

Speaker 3 newsrooms, newsrooms, you know, a newsroom.

Speaker 3 You know, the might has touched. There's no newsroom.
They got a newsroom.

Speaker 33 It's a little closet where the guy sits, but it's a newsroom.

Speaker 108 So thanks to the Jones Brothers Syndicate, we have some of the morning, the Sunday morning shows are always the big, that's the big press freedom round people like to do in Washington.

Speaker 3 You service me with some clips once in a while, but those days are over because you've somehow queered the deal. I don't know what you did.

Speaker 22 Queered the deal?

Speaker 118 Yeah.

Speaker 66 I did nothing.

Speaker 46 Maybe I just send him a note and say, thanks.

Speaker 13 I really appreciate you.

Speaker 41 Maybe that's why.

Speaker 131 I'm pretty good about that.

Speaker 97 So

Speaker 62 CBS, CBS, Face the Nation, Margaret Brennan had

Speaker 36 Paula Kerger on.

Speaker 71 You're saying, who is Paula Kerger?

Speaker 3 Who is Paula Kerger?

Speaker 60 She is the CEO of PBS, your favorite station, your K-Part and Brooks station.

Speaker 29 And she had, had, and at the same time.

Speaker 3 Mara was, or she's PBS.

Speaker 33 No, she's NPR.

Speaker 48 So she had them both on.

Speaker 3 So she's a different spook.

Speaker 109 Do you notice a pattern here?

Speaker 19 The CEOs of the two largest government, partially government-funded

Speaker 18 news organizations with actual newsrooms are women.

Speaker 62 And they got some claiming, some complaining they're doing.

Speaker 137 The president tweeted or socialed or truthed.

Speaker 135 Republicans must defund and totally disassociate themselves from NPR and PBS the radical left monsters that so badly hurt monsters they're monsters I have to tell you I heard monsters

Speaker 35 this is Margaret this is Margaret Brennan but it will be her name that was Margaret I didn't understand yes yes I think it was weird Paula Kerger K-E-R-G-E-R Kerger Kerger you look her up and I'll continue with the question

Speaker 93 I thought of cookie monster I thought of Sesame Street And I thought of that children's programming.

Speaker 135 That is in many ways what people think of when they think of PBS.

Speaker 138 Absolutely. Is that impactful?

Speaker 137 Absolutely.

Speaker 41 Are you going to do that the whole show?

Speaker 3 You step on my clips too.

Speaker 138 Impacted too?

Speaker 140 Absolutely.

Speaker 140 And out of this executive order, we believe it impacts our funding out of the Department of Education, which is a 30-year program that has supported not only the creation of many of the children's programming that you see on public television, but also the research that we do to ensure that that programming is not just safe and enjoyable, but that children, after watching, come away with understanding of basic letters and numbers.

Speaker 140 Half the kids in this country are not enrolled in formal pre-K.

Speaker 41 That's why programming

Speaker 33 is not enrolled in formal pre-K.

Speaker 122 We have to save the children.

Speaker 41 Think of the children.

Speaker 3 Former pre-K.

Speaker 41 Formal.

Speaker 3 Former. I mean,

Speaker 3 formal. Formal.

Speaker 13 So their job is now to educate our children.

Speaker 75 She's saying it right right here.

Speaker 130 You don't have your child in pre-K.

Speaker 122 It used to just be K.

Speaker 142 What happened to just K?

Speaker 74 K-12.

Speaker 18 That's P-K-1. K-12.

Speaker 65 Yeah. Now I have to.

Speaker 30 Whoa, you're a bad parent if you haven't enrolled your child in pre-K.

Speaker 140 That's why programming for children on public television was created. That was the idea with Sesame Street and Mr.

Speaker 140 Rogers and everything that's followed since is to make sure that children that do not have access to a full array of resources.

Speaker 33 Here's my my question.

Speaker 62 What have you done for me lately?

Speaker 62 So that's your big claim to fame, PBS.

Speaker 104 Mr.

Speaker 3 Rogers.

Speaker 2 Mr.

Speaker 3 Rogers has been dead for a decade.

Speaker 74 Sesame Street.

Speaker 11 What have you done lately?

Speaker 140 Have the opportunity to learn and to develop skills that they'll need the first time they enter preschool.

Speaker 140 That may be at age two or three or four and sometimes five, not until they start kindergarten. That's what's at risk.

Speaker 6 That's what's at risk.

Speaker 74 Oh, I thought it was press freedom.

Speaker 109 I'm mistaken.

Speaker 18 It's not press freedom.

Speaker 29 It's the children.

Speaker 25 President Trump hates kids.

Speaker 37 They do, yeah.

Speaker 29 Let's go to Catherine Marr.

Speaker 3 By the way, there's nothing spooky about her.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 13 Where does she come from? What's her background?

Speaker 3 Baltimore. She's just, everything's pretty.
She was a pre-med student.

Speaker 33 Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 There's nothing that looks like she's got anything like that.

Speaker 33 All right.

Speaker 104 Well, unlike her, here's Catherine Marr, CEO of NPR.

Speaker 135 So, Catherine, I want to ask you about the news.

Speaker 135 When we went and we read the executive order, the language in there says government funding of news media in this environment is outdated and unnecessary, corrosive to the appearance of independence.

Speaker 135 And Americans have the right to expect if their tax dollars fund public broadcasting that it's fair, accurate, unbiased, and nonpartisan.

Speaker 135 How do you respond to the implication that your news coverage is not?

Speaker 26 Well, just listen to the No Agenda Show.

Speaker 6 They tell you every soul we do twice a week.

Speaker 138 It's not fair and nonpartisan.

Speaker 145 I think biased.

Speaker 132 I can't get over her.

Speaker 80 She is.

Speaker 147 That is...

Speaker 109 You know, the jingle.

Speaker 148 Where's my jingle?

Speaker 132 Yeah, this one.

Speaker 3 Elitest voices of America.

Speaker 149 This is NPR

Speaker 150 or PBS.

Speaker 128 Totally an elitist voice, this.

Speaker 138 Is not fair and non-partisan.

Speaker 151 Nothing biased.

Speaker 138 Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, I think it's important to know that I'm the CEO, and we have an independent editor-in-chief

Speaker 33 who oversees the newsroom.

Speaker 138 And so I don't make editorial decisions, and that I I think is just always an important point to make. But I think our newsroom would really take issue with that.

Speaker 111 By the way, stop.

Speaker 3 I have to stop the clip.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 96 So what?

Speaker 3 So what? What's an important distinction to make that she says, oh, you know, I'm the CEO. I don't make the editorial decisions.
I think that's an important point.

Speaker 3 Why is it important? Who cares?

Speaker 13 Well, it's important to the elitist voices, I guess.

Speaker 75 I don't know.

Speaker 138 We have been on air for more than 50 years. We have been covering news as it occurs across the nation in local communities overseas.
We have an extraordinary Washington desk.

Speaker 138 And I want people to report straight down the line.

Speaker 138 And I think that not only do they do that, they do so with a mission that very few other broadcast organizations have, which is a requirement to serve the entire public.

Speaker 138 That is the point of public broadcasting: we bring people together in those conversations. And so we have had a whole host of conservative voices on air of late.
We've been

Speaker 2 when was this?

Speaker 41 I've missed the conservative voices.

Speaker 3 Well, that must be like Brooks.

Speaker 75 A whole host, though.

Speaker 33 A whole host.

Speaker 3 It's like Jennifer Rubin, who always builds herself as a conservative blogger. The woman's so left-leaning, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 138 Making requests of the Trump administration to have their officials on air. We would like to see more people accept those invitations.

Speaker 138 It's hard for us to be able to say we can speak for everyone when folks won't join us.

Speaker 74 Oh, I see.

Speaker 13 It's their fault because they don't want to

Speaker 153 take the risk of being on your airwaves.

Speaker 42 Okay, so

Speaker 41 you're not participating, and therefore we have to do what we have to do.

Speaker 38 That's my takeaway.

Speaker 14 So let's talk about the White House and the talking points and what they're saying because it's oh, so mean.

Speaker 97 So that was the executive order.

Speaker 135 Then we went and we looked at the White House talking points and what they're putting on social media. They're a lot more about you than you.

Speaker 93 And on NPR,

Speaker 3 well, that is a propagandistic usage when she says

Speaker 3 the White House statement about the situation is not talking points.

Speaker 3 Talking points are specific.

Speaker 3 It is usually a list of points or something that's transmitted around. You're going to talk about this.

Speaker 2 You're going to talk about that.

Speaker 33 It's not published

Speaker 104 on whitehouse.gov.

Speaker 3 It's not a press release. A press release is not talking points.
She's saying that for a very specific purpose, to get it ingrained into

Speaker 3 the listener's mind that it's propaganda from the White House. It's bullcrap.
That is a good point.

Speaker 54 That is a good point, and I'm going to talk to the kids about that this month.

Speaker 26 That's a good one. Thank you.

Speaker 33 So that was the executive order. I am.

Speaker 70 This is important that the kids understand.

Speaker 3 Well, that's right.

Speaker 2 I forgot you're giving a lecture. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, you might as well use the other one, which will come up in one of my clips. where somebody uses the word claimed instead of

Speaker 3 saying

Speaker 35 that was already on my list.

Speaker 99 Let's get back to the news deserts.

Speaker 135 And we went and we looked at the White House talking points and what they're putting on social media.

Speaker 64 They're a lot more about you than you.

Speaker 135 And on NPR, they were saying things like a July 2022 editor's note that said the Declaration of Independence had offensive language against Native Americans. We checked, and the word savages is used.

Speaker 135 The White House faults your editors for avoiding the term biological sex when discussing transgender issues.

Speaker 135 They apparently want you to use the term pro-life and faulted your use of the term anti-abortion rights to refer refer to activists.

Speaker 41 Well, they got some good talking points there.

Speaker 135 So when you see specific editorial criticisms like that, what do you interpret the intention of this being?

Speaker 64 That they hate us.

Speaker 33 What is your intention?

Speaker 92 Bleeding the witness.

Speaker 3 Mind-reading people, mind-reading.

Speaker 138 Yes. Well, I interpret the intention of this being trying to create a narrative around our editorial independence.
And as I said in our

Speaker 138 control,

Speaker 138 and I think that that is an affront to the First Amendment. We have an independent newsroom, and we will always have an independent newsroom.

Speaker 155 Hold on a second.

Speaker 27 Just because they are exercising their part of the First Amendment, that is somehow an encroachment on NPR's use of the First Amendment.

Speaker 150 They want to control our newsroom.

Speaker 33 This is not true.

Speaker 3 This is a microphone between criticism and control.

Speaker 83 Thank you.

Speaker 33 Yes, thank you.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 18 It's good that we're doing this because people just watch this and they just sucked it all up.

Speaker 3 The idea wafts over you is just bull crap.

Speaker 73 It's bull crap.

Speaker 2 It is bull crap.

Speaker 138 That is an affront to the First Amendment. We have an independent newsroom and we will always have an independent newsroom.
From my perspective, part of the separation

Speaker 138 that the First Amendment offers is to keep government out. In fact, the statute that...

Speaker 67 Well, then why do you take government money if you want to keep government out?

Speaker 4 Wow!

Speaker 4 Great point!

Speaker 6 What's up with that?

Speaker 138 Was written when the Public Broadcasting Act was signed into law, was very explicit about interference from any member of the government, whether it is elected officials, whether members of independent agencies, because

Speaker 3 right after she says this, Brennan does the same thing, right? She comes out and says, well, after all what you said, then why do you want government money at all? That's what happens, right?

Speaker 138 Statute that was written when the Public Broadcasting Act was signed into law was very explicit about interference from any member of the government, whether it is elected officials, whether members of independent agencies, because it is so

Speaker 138 sacrosanct, that division between the state and independent media.

Speaker 135 That was the Public Broadcasting Act of 1967, set it up as a private corporation to give protection from influence and control. I would assume that's also from the White House.

Speaker 27 So,

Speaker 46 and I've been listening to NPR.

Speaker 158 I didn't clip too much of it, but they keep talking about that's why it was set up with two years in advance.

Speaker 11 So, this money was done in 2023 and it's our money, and you can't just take that money away. This was to protect us from the government involved with us, but we're still taking government money.

Speaker 75 You know, you understand, but we can't have involved from the government with government money.

Speaker 138 President Lyndon Johnson, who signed the bill into law creating the Public Broadcasting Act and creating the system that we all operate within, was very noted.

Speaker 138 He noted in his remarks upon signing that speech was that it does require a greater wisdom, and that's why we have a two-year advance appropriation:

Speaker 138 is to insulate both of our work from political interference.

Speaker 138 I think that that is critical that Americans understand that public broadcasting is meant to be independent so that we can serve the public interest regardless of whatever administration is in office or whatever Congress's whims are.

Speaker 140 And the Corporation for Public Broadcasting was set up as a private corporation with that same intent. So I think there was a lot of focus, even at that moment,

Speaker 140 when the act was signed.

Speaker 93 1%.

Speaker 66 This is very interesting.

Speaker 65 They keep harping on this.

Speaker 19 It's an independent company.

Speaker 155 Well, yeah, then go get independent money.

Speaker 44 You know, it's like, and if this is all, if it's only 1%,

Speaker 38 what's the big deal?

Speaker 156 We'll find out, of course.

Speaker 140 That protections would need to be put in place. Because if we do our job,

Speaker 140 it is possible that we will produce content that some people may wish we have done a different way. And this way it gives us the independence.

Speaker 140 The other thing that keeps us independent is that most of our funding comes from viewers like you.

Speaker 14 Viewers like you.

Speaker 125 It comes from viewers like you, but still we're here going to waffle on for an hour about the money from the government, but it comes from viewers like you.

Speaker 140 We ask people to make contribution to public broadcasting for something they get for free because we are available free to every home in this country.

Speaker 140 And so both the combination of the fact that it was built as a public-private partnership, there would be some public money that went into public broadcasting that would enable stations and small communities to exist, alongside the fact that most of our support comes from people in communities, that really does create something that is very independent and very responsive to the communities that we serve.

Speaker 148 And by the way, a lot of them are red communities, so you know, so you know, Republicans shouldn't be doing that.

Speaker 49 I think we can wrap it up with this one.

Speaker 95 The declining trust in the news.

Speaker 138 And if I may, just to give a sense of those numbers, for every single dollar that the federal government puts in, stations raise on average about $7

Speaker 138 from

Speaker 138 private sources. And so you also have to recognize that this order interferes with...

Speaker 26 That was an interesting flub from public private.

Speaker 54 I mean,

Speaker 21 I wonder if that was truth coming out there.

Speaker 75 I'm not sure. $7

Speaker 93 from public sources.

Speaker 3 This is also one of those dipsy-doo things. They like to.
Well, for every dollar spent, we get, you know, it's like the park service.

Speaker 3 You know, for every dollar the government's put us in the park service, we make $8. Well, why don't you just make $7?

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 3 this is like throwing numbers around.

Speaker 3 Every dollar results in $10.

Speaker 104 Yes, it's magic.

Speaker 113 We are a magic money machine.

Speaker 138 $7

Speaker 138 from

Speaker 138 private sources. And so you also have to recognize that this order interferes with the First Amendment rights of our listeners and viewers who've made a choice to contribute.

Speaker 63 Well, how does it interstop?

Speaker 160 This is just not true. It doesn't

Speaker 3 just a basic lie. So the government not giving PBS money interferes with my First Amendment rights.

Speaker 51 Yours, yours, yours.

Speaker 41 That's what she said.

Speaker 33 Well, right? That's what she said.

Speaker 29 Well,

Speaker 34 she has a point because if they can't fund

Speaker 83 Brooks and K-part and Scott Scheiman, it will hurt hurt the show.

Speaker 3 So you know, Scott Simon only works on the weekends and he makes over $400,000 a year.

Speaker 117 No, that's just painful to hear.

Speaker 54 That's very painful.

Speaker 162 The First Amendment Franklin.

Speaker 3 Somebody did a breakdown.

Speaker 3 It came out of Doge, I think. The money that they pay their anchors on PBS is, I mean, it's not Fox, I mean, where you can get millions.

Speaker 124 Yeah.

Speaker 118 But

Speaker 3 for the amount of work they do, and it's mostly radio. We were talking about the radio side.

Speaker 73 Yeah.

Speaker 3 They get.

Speaker 71 For radio, that's well paid.

Speaker 3 I mean, there's very 400,000, especially for a weekend gig. Yeah, you're like...
It's not working five days a week all day.

Speaker 11 No, I mean, most people in radio are making $35,000 a year.

Speaker 12 Seriously, except for your, you know, you got a couple.

Speaker 21 Sean Hannity, I'm sure, Glenn Beck.

Speaker 27 I mean, yeah, they're making millions.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, those guys make millions, but they have syndicated deals.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 75 Yes. All right, let's continue.

Speaker 138 The First Amendment rights of our listeners and viewers who've made a choice to contribute, and this is the news that they want to see and hear, or the programming that they are committed to.

Speaker 135 It did just stand out to us as journalists ourselves because the research shows that, you know, there's declining trust in media, in news, and the president was talking about that himself there, that he wants a free and fair press.

Speaker 135 We're going to continue to cover this. And thank you for your time today.

Speaker 140 Thank you for having us.

Speaker 146 Hold on.

Speaker 3 Now that's over. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 Why doesn't Brennan's got the woman there? She just brought up a push. Out of the blue, Brennan says, well, you know, there's declining trust in the media.
Goodbye.

Speaker 6 Why doesn't she say?

Speaker 33 I mean, it makes no sense.

Speaker 3 Why doesn't she say there's declining trust in the media? Why do you think that is? It's a simple question that's not, you know, maybe she can't answer, maybe she can't, but why wouldn't you ask that?

Speaker 3 You've got the CEO standing right there and you'd say, does declining trust in the media goodbye?

Speaker 82 Well, she's taking that as a given fact.

Speaker 154 That's what she's doing there. Like, everybody knows that.

Speaker 85 We just had the report about the press freedom is on decline.

Speaker 33 It's slipping.

Speaker 35 Ever since President Trump came in office, slipping.

Speaker 11 It's going away. People don't trust.

Speaker 3 I would like to know what her answer to that question, that simple question, would have been. But Brennan, no.
She didn't have it. No.

Speaker 3 Because Because of what you just said, she just made it as an assumption, as a statement of fact, and didn't want to even discuss it any further. This is a terrible show.

Speaker 3 These people get paid a lot of money to do this stuff. It's a terrible show, and Brennan is no good.

Speaker 71 Here's the last clip I got.

Speaker 164 President Donald Trump signed a controversial executive order on Thursday. It aims to cut money for NPR and PBS.

Speaker 165 The American people are sick of funding institutions who promote values that they find repugnant.

Speaker 164 The public broadcasters are accused of left-leaning bias.

Speaker 71 I wanted to play both sides of the argument.

Speaker 3 The White House.

Speaker 75 It's true.

Speaker 164 The White House and Republicans say one glaring example was NPR's refusal to cover the Hunter Biden laptop scandal shortly before the 2020 election.

Speaker 164 At the time, NPR released a statement that said, we don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories.

Speaker 41 but it did turn out to be a real story our current editorial leadership believes that that was a mistake as do i yeah the whole country knows that was a mistake definitely impacted the election critics also point out how draquens have been featured on pbs children's programming the executive order oh that's what they're doing see they didn't bring that up on the on the cbs uh meet the press but here they talk about it because after mr rogers and big bird we got drag time story hourly impacted the election Critics also point out how drag queens have been featured on PBS Children's Programming.

Speaker 164 The executive order directs the Corporation for Public Broadcasting to slash the more than half a billion dollars and federal funding for NPR and PBS.

Speaker 164 Local stations could be hit the hardest, with some at risk of shutting down altogether. In a statement, NPR said, we will challenge this executive order.

Speaker 122 If they get $7

Speaker 13 for every dollar that they get from the government,

Speaker 29 why would they be shutting down?

Speaker 62 You know, why is because they have to buy the incredibly expensive programming from the American public media, commercial organizations.

Speaker 11 If you want fresh air, if you want any of these programs, you have to buy them at truly market value, syndicated programming, market value. There's no deal here, and you can't FTP it.

Speaker 18 You have to get it off their satellite system, which is another couple million bucks a year.

Speaker 60 Where you could have for a buck fifty, you got Starlink.

Speaker 106 Come on, people.

Speaker 164 I'm

Speaker 169 In the middle of the night.

Speaker 4 In the middle of the night.

Speaker 94 He issued it in the middle of the night so that we wouldn't notice it.

Speaker 149 Oh, is that what you're trying to imply?

Speaker 164 And PBS said, the president's blatantly unlawful executive order issued in the middle of the night threatens our ability to serve the American public.

Speaker 168 We use our broadcast as the emergency backup for emergency alerts for the country.

Speaker 33 Oh, yeah, this is another big one.

Speaker 41 Yeah, this is.

Speaker 9 I mean, you know, if

Speaker 62 the power goes down, you know, it's our broadcast that will save everybody.

Speaker 3 Yeah, within their little portable radios, we'd be picking up PBS.

Speaker 40 Like in northern West Carolina.

Speaker 60 No, it was Elon Musk's Starlink that saved people, not you guys.

Speaker 33 I'm sorry.

Speaker 122 And ham guy.

Speaker 84 Hams. Hams.
Hams. Hams.
Hams.

Speaker 80 Hams.

Speaker 3 It sounds like a breakfast.

Speaker 164 Threatens our ability to serve the American public.

Speaker 168 We use our broadcast as the emergency backup for emergency alerts for the country. And you need 100% coverage to make that happen.

Speaker 138 We have news deserts. 20% of Americans live in Washington.

Speaker 3 100%.

Speaker 3 You need not 99.999.

Speaker 33 100, 100, 100, 100, 100%.

Speaker 158 And here comes the news desert again.

Speaker 164 In the middle of the night, threatens our ability to serve the American public.

Speaker 168 We use our broadcast as the emergency backup for emergency alerts for the country. And you need 100% coverage to make that happen.

Speaker 15 We have news deserts.

Speaker 138 20% of Americans live in a place where they have no local news coverage other than public radio.

Speaker 159 The Corporation for Public Broadcasting also released a statement saying the organization is not a federal executive agency subject to the president's authority.

Speaker 159 It's safe to say this executive order will be challenged in court.

Speaker 28 Yeah, all right. All right.

Speaker 143 Well, this, this will be fun because now they get to talk about themselves, which is all, oh, you should have heard on the media.

Speaker 41 Brooke.

Speaker 133 I couldn't even clip it.

Speaker 33 It was all about all about us.

Speaker 41 You know,

Speaker 58 we're being suppressed.

Speaker 12 There's this little thing called podcasting people.

Speaker 11 And you know what?

Speaker 173 You spent $100 million and had to shut it down because of your Neumann mics and your newsrooms.

Speaker 62 Joe Rogan does more for information than you do.

Speaker 60 All put together, all your stations.

Speaker 30 Everybody knows it.

Speaker 3 You know, that's interesting, that point you make, though, about the

Speaker 3 using Starlink instead of these expensive satellites. When I was doing a radio show for the real computing show on

Speaker 3 PB

Speaker 2 the other network, public radio.

Speaker 3 And it was, it cost a fortune.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You had to go up to the bird, and then you had the transponder number, and

Speaker 3 everyone had to download it from whatever.

Speaker 19 And it was like back in the day, MTV didn't have that kind of money when I started there.

Speaker 30 They didn't even have a lighting director, makeup, or wardrobe.

Speaker 54 And so to get the shows on the air, we recorded on U-Matic High Band,

Speaker 41 which is basically a glorified Betamax.

Speaker 76 And then they'd put it in a commuter cargo cassette.

Speaker 19 With a bigger cassette.

Speaker 58 They'd put it in a commuter car, which was a low-rent, basically a cab service you could call.

Speaker 12 And then they would drive it up out to Long Island. And then you'd have tape jockeys sitting there, just

Speaker 27 hitting the VJ segment, then hitting the video, the music video.

Speaker 66 We didn't have satellites.

Speaker 36 Couldn't afford it.

Speaker 53 And now, yes, it's actually, it's like a buck 10.

Speaker 42 It's not even 150 bucks.

Speaker 13 I think it started off 99 was the introductory price.

Speaker 56 And now I think I pay 110 or 120.

Speaker 46 And honestly, it's an expense for the show because it's a backup.

Speaker 20 It's a backup to the backup to the backup.

Speaker 129 But it's impressive.

Speaker 153 And, you know, so to say that you need this, no.

Speaker 3 The guys up at the Do Gramerica up in Canada,

Speaker 45 they use it on the air, I know.

Speaker 3 And I didn't notice it until they pointed it out. I mean,

Speaker 3 because I've been on that show and there's no latency.

Speaker 2 It's quite nice.

Speaker 29 Yeah, you should go back on.

Speaker 3 I should. They haven't invited me back.

Speaker 41 They're probably.

Speaker 3 The ratings went through the toilet when they got me on.

Speaker 144 I don't think so.

Speaker 156 People love it when you're on.

Speaker 133 They do.

Speaker 99 They always tell me that.

Speaker 174 Dvorak, he's a ratings bonanza.

Speaker 143 Get that guy on.

Speaker 33 All right.

Speaker 48 Well, I can go all kinds of directions now, but I will leave the floor to you, sir.

Speaker 73 Well, what do I have?

Speaker 45 I don't know.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of stuff I don't know.

Speaker 74 We don't listen to each other's clips, so I don't know.

Speaker 11 What did you not get?

Speaker 46 And I'll tell you if I got it.

Speaker 3 What did I not get? I did. Okay, yeah, it's a good point.
That's

Speaker 3 a new element of the show.

Speaker 6 New element of the show.

Speaker 3 I didn't get it. I don't have a clip of

Speaker 3 the Ben-Gurion airport getting bombed by the Houthis.

Speaker 176 Israel is on high alert after a missile impacted near Ben-Gurion airport outside of Tel Aviv.

Speaker 176 The attack was claimed by Yemen's Houthi rebels who have regularly launched attacks on Israel since the start of the war in Gaza.

Speaker 176 The attack resulted in a crater near the airport, but didn't damage any structures. Authorities say at least two people were lightly injured.

Speaker 176 Israel's defense minister has threatened to strike back, quote, sevenfold at the Yemeni militants.

Speaker 13 So, this is a new version of GoFish.

Speaker 128 So, you say, I didn't get this.

Speaker 41 I really like this idea.

Speaker 132 And then I play it. And

Speaker 85 if I don't have it, then I tell you to go fish.

Speaker 46 And then you pick one of yours.

Speaker 18 Let's try it for the second one.

Speaker 41 What do you got? What do you got? What do you got?

Speaker 3 Oh, well, that wouldn't caught me. You caught me flat-footed because now if I

Speaker 3 had the one because that's the only one I was watching this morning, I said, oh, that'd be nice to have a clip of that.

Speaker 75 Oh, so that's all you can think of?

Speaker 3 Yeah, unfortunately. There must be something else that happened this morning.
Well, I mean, I figured most of the morning stuff you pick up.

Speaker 43 Well, President Trump was on with

Speaker 54 the Manhands lady.

Speaker 23 A welker? Yes.

Speaker 27 So he did ABC.

Speaker 13 We know how that turned out.

Speaker 6 I respectfully agree to disagree about the Photoshop.

Speaker 3 Here's an interview in a nutshell. You suck, ABC.
You suck. Well, do you want to hear the yes, I would like to hear Welker.

Speaker 136 Okay, this is pretty much all about tariffs, which covers two topics in one but sir you acknowledge when you announced your tariffs for example the stock market dropped it's been volatile it has since gone up do you take responsibility

Speaker 88 for that yeah do you take responsibility when it's dropped ultimately i take responsibility for everything but i've only just been here for a little more than three months uh but the stock market look at what's happened in the last short period of time.

Speaker 88 Didn't it have nine or ten days in a row or 11 days where it's gone up?

Speaker 125 So so far, we're cordial.

Speaker 15 It's not going to last.

Speaker 88 And the tariffs have just started kicking in and we're

Speaker 88 doing really well psychologically. I mean, the fake news was giving me such press on the tariffs.
The tariffs are going to make us rich. We're going to be a very rich country.

Speaker 136 So let's talk about the tariffs. And I want to ask you about something you said this week.
Got a lot of attention. You were at your cabinet meeting.
You said, quote, I'm going to quote what you said.

Speaker 136 Maybe the children will have two dolls instead of 30 dollars. And maybe the two dolls will cost a couple of bucks more than they would normally.

Speaker 97 I love this because this is my theory, too.

Speaker 63 It's like, stop buying junk from China.

Speaker 29 Wake up, people.

Speaker 136 Are you saying that your tariffs will cause some again?

Speaker 29 Trump hates children.

Speaker 125 This is the new meme.

Speaker 3 This is interesting the way she's twisted this, too. Yeah.
It's like maybe the kids will have two instead of 30.

Speaker 3 And they're talking specifically about toys from China, which is junk from China, which is what they're discussing. And there's going to be less of it, perhaps.
I doubt it, by the way.

Speaker 118 But

Speaker 3 so she, and she twists it.

Speaker 33 Have you been ever?

Speaker 16 I mean,

Speaker 102 we know some people with young kids here.

Speaker 131 I am astounded by the junk

Speaker 26 that these kids have.

Speaker 41 They have an entire room that is just their junk room.

Speaker 75 Have you ever seen this?

Speaker 3 Well, I have the problem with Theo

Speaker 3 is that they won't let him have a lot of toys over there, so the junk is over here

Speaker 63 in your office.

Speaker 3 No, in my in the downstairs front room, which has there's bins, so he has to put the put the toys back in the bins.

Speaker 2 Oh, good, but good, good.

Speaker 3 It would look like I have a dozen kids. If somebody comes and visits, what is you? How many kids do you have here living here?

Speaker 33 Yeah, well, exactly.

Speaker 81 It's a lot. And why, how come they won't stop?

Speaker 3 But what do the kids what does the kid like to play with the most? One of the main things is a wooden

Speaker 3 little car, a wooden car with wooden wheels.

Speaker 6 I know

Speaker 3 it was made in Slovenia.

Speaker 38 It's astounding.

Speaker 149 But meanwhile, there's all this plastic junk and furry junk, probably toxic.

Speaker 75 It's everywhere. All right.

Speaker 136 Are you saying that your tariffs will cause some prices to go up?

Speaker 88 No, I think your tariffs are going to be great for us because it's going to make us rich.

Speaker 136 But you said some dolls are going to cost more.

Speaker 177 Isn't that an acknowledgement that some prices will go up?

Speaker 88 I don't think a beautiful baby girl needs, that's 11 years old, needs to have 30 dolls. I think they can have three dolls or four dolls

Speaker 88 because what we were doing with China was just unbelievable. We had a trade deficit

Speaker 88 hundreds of billions of dollars with China.

Speaker 97 Well, he's already gone from two to four dolls, so he's slipping.

Speaker 92 He's slipping.

Speaker 24 He's like, okay, you can have four.

Speaker 85 Every child can have four dolls now.

Speaker 46 Thank you, Mr. President.

Speaker 33 We're very happy.

Speaker 11 By the way, are you running a baby daycare there?

Speaker 42 Is that what you're doing on on the side?

Speaker 11 You got the dog kennel, and now you're running kids.

Speaker 3 We got a dog kennel. We got everything.

Speaker 130 All right. So

Speaker 3 I have some tariff clips since you brought it up.

Speaker 30 Oh, you don't want me to continue?

Speaker 25 You want to interrupt?

Speaker 3 Oh, that was the end of her. We have more of Kristen.

Speaker 33 Oh, yes.

Speaker 41 It's all about tariffs.

Speaker 94 And it's just about to get fun because...

Speaker 3 Okay, no, play it out, and then I'll play that. I have a Buffett clip.

Speaker 80 Buffett came in and said something nasty.

Speaker 3 Yes. And then

Speaker 3 there's one more.

Speaker 25 Well, it's about to become a dishonest interview, as you understand.

Speaker 136 When you say they could have $3 instead of $30, are you saying?

Speaker 81 Well, now it's three.

Speaker 63 He said two. Is it four? Is it two? Is it three? What is it, Kristen Welker?

Speaker 41 I'm confused now.

Speaker 136 When you say they could have three dollars instead of $30,

Speaker 136 are you saying you

Speaker 136 Americans could see empty store shelves?

Speaker 88 No, no, I'm not saying that.

Speaker 97 No more dolls for the kids, really.

Speaker 67 The whole a memo went out somewhere.

Speaker 22 All right, let's go for the kids.

Speaker 16 Trump hates children.

Speaker 33 That's what it must have been something like that.

Speaker 11 All right, here's our new angle, everybody.

Speaker 3 This will kill him. Yeah, this angle is going to do it.
Yeah. This will get him to quit.

Speaker 3 Oh, won't somebody please think of the children?

Speaker 136 When you say they could have $3 instead of $30, are you saying

Speaker 136 Americans could see empty store shelves?

Speaker 88 No, no, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying they don't need to have $30.
They can have three. They don't need to have 250 pencils.
They can have five.

Speaker 3 This is NBC. What a conversation.

Speaker 3 This is network news.

Speaker 33 It's not over.

Speaker 88 But you're basically saying there could be some supply shortages because of the fact that we need to waste money on a trade deficit with China for things we don't need, for junk that we don't need.

Speaker 136 Well, prices are already going up on on some popular items.

Speaker 177 Whoa, whoa, whoa, tires,

Speaker 177 strollers.

Speaker 88 This is such a dishonest interview.

Speaker 75 There it is.

Speaker 118 There it is.

Speaker 63 It's a dishonest interview, and we're only one minute in.

Speaker 88 Prices are down on groceries. Prices are down for oil.
Prices are down for all energy. Prices are down at tremendous numbers for gasoline.

Speaker 88 And let me tell you, when you have the big thing, what he did, he spent like a stupid person, which he was, but he spent like a very stupid person. And that was bad for inflation.

Speaker 88 But what really killed us with inflation was the price of energy. It went up to $3.90, even $4, and in California, $5 and $6, right?

Speaker 178 Okay.

Speaker 88 I have it down to $1.98 in many states right now.

Speaker 153 Not in Texas.

Speaker 11 Where is it?

Speaker 18 $1.98.

Speaker 35 What's it? I don't know. It's not.

Speaker 3 It's

Speaker 3 Mississippi, maybe. I have no idea.

Speaker 18 It's like $2.50 here now.

Speaker 2 It's still five bucks here.

Speaker 57 Yeah, well, it's your taxes.

Speaker 88 You go that much lower on energy, which is ahead of my prediction because I really thought I could get it down into the 250s. We have it down at $1.98 in numerous places.

Speaker 181 President Trump hates children.

Speaker 136 Let me give you some examples.

Speaker 136 These are, I mean, these are actual examples.

Speaker 136 So you're saying the prices that are going down, some prices are going up. Tires, strollers,

Speaker 177 some clothing in the wake of your tariffs.

Speaker 88 That's peanuts compared to energy. Energy is 60% of the cost.

Speaker 95 But sir, you campaigned.

Speaker 136 You campaigned on a promise to bring prices down on day basis.

Speaker 88 Well, I don't know when you say strollers are going up.

Speaker 182 Strollers, keep on the strollers.

Speaker 181 This is great, Kirsten.

Speaker 33 What kind of a thing?

Speaker 88 I'm saying that gasoline is going down. Gasoline is thousands of times more important than a stroller or something.

Speaker 136 But what do you say to Americans who say they voted for you because they want and they need relief

Speaker 93 right now?

Speaker 178 They're getting it.

Speaker 136 Right now, what about those?

Speaker 88 Even mortgage rates, different items I just don't know.

Speaker 93 Who cares?

Speaker 88 Stay on the stroller. Despite the fact that we have a stubborn Fed.

Speaker 136 But you said dolls, even dolls.

Speaker 93 Yeah, good.

Speaker 178 Bring the dolls back.

Speaker 88 Maybe they might, but you don't need to have, as I said, 35 dollars. You can have

Speaker 88 34 and save a lot of money. We don't need to feed the beasts.

Speaker 126 Don't feed the the beast.

Speaker 33 It's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 Clip of the day. Go on.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 83 Okay.

Speaker 35 Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 Clip of the day.

Speaker 63 I'll stop here because

Speaker 40 they kind of stay on terrace, but let's put your tariff clips in here.

Speaker 100 I think that's probably a wise idea.

Speaker 38 Jeez. It's great.

Speaker 92 It's fantastic.

Speaker 6 It's so pathetic.

Speaker 3 So they got to bring in Buffett because he's retiring and he's got to have his last shot in there. You know, he's a Democrat.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 73 even Bill.

Speaker 3 I guess he's not friends with Bill anymore.

Speaker 7 No, because of Epstein.

Speaker 105 We all know that.

Speaker 132 Buffett knows what's up.

Speaker 35 He knows what's up.

Speaker 50 He wants no part of it.

Speaker 76 And, you know, I don't think he likes divorce.

Speaker 70 I think that's a problem for him.

Speaker 3 I think you might be right. He's from, you know, he's from Wichita.

Speaker 133 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Here's Buffett anti-tariff short.

Speaker 112 Billionaire investor Warren Buffett said the United States should not use trade as a weapon.

Speaker 112 Buffett, who's the fifth richest person in the world, made the comments during today's annual meeting of Berkshire Hathaway, where he's CEO.

Speaker 112 He also announced that he'll be retiring at the end of the year when he'll be 95.

Speaker 35 Yeah, don't use him.

Speaker 83 Don't use him.

Speaker 41 Why?

Speaker 167 Because he's invested in Chinese companies, that's why.

Speaker 2 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 3 There's the other clip is Trump Tariffs MT.

Speaker 112 Meanwhile, President Trump brushed aside recession fears in an interview for tomorrow's Meet the Press on NBC. Mr.
Trump said the pains of this transition period will lead to a flourishing economy.

Speaker 93 It's

Speaker 88 that there are many people on Wall Street say this is going to be the greatest windfall ever happened.

Speaker 136 And that's my question over the long term.

Speaker 136 Is it okay in the short term to have recessions?

Speaker 93 Look,

Speaker 93 look, look.

Speaker 145 Yeah, yeah, yes.

Speaker 88 Everything's okay. But we are, I said, this is a transition period.
I think we're going to do fantastically.

Speaker 112 This week, new government numbers. Fantastically.

Speaker 75 Is that a proper use of the word fantastic?

Speaker 74 I don't think fantastically is a real word.

Speaker 33 It's fantastic.

Speaker 88 But we are, I said, this is a transition period. I think we're going to do fantastically.

Speaker 112 This week, new government numbers showed that the U.S. economy shrank in the first three months of the year.
That's the first drop in three years.

Speaker 112 Imports in the first quarter surged as companies tried to beat tariff deadlines. The tariffs on cars and car parts kicked in today with significant changes intended to blunt the impact on U.S.

Speaker 112 car makers.

Speaker 20 Okay, let's go back to Chris and Welker because now it's about

Speaker 49 Abrior Galaga

Speaker 49 Garcia.

Speaker 23 Oh, geez.

Speaker 136 I'm curious to know what it means. You declared a national emergency on the southern border.

Speaker 92 What does it mean?

Speaker 41 What does it mean?

Speaker 70 Because we had a national emergency on the border.

Speaker 136 We've got declared a national emergency on the southern border. The order is still in place.

Speaker 177 By the way, even though you're saying the border,

Speaker 88 it means we have the most secure border we've ever had.

Speaker 136 Well, and I guess the question becomes: when will you know that the emergency is over? Are you planning to lift it at some point? Is it necessary? Because obviously the military is involved.

Speaker 136 Will you lift that emergency over?

Speaker 88 Well, the biggest emergency is the courts aren't allowing us to take really action.

Speaker 90 We're going to talk about that, but talk to me first about this.

Speaker 136 Talk to me first about this.

Speaker 88 The border is not the emergency. The border is

Speaker 88 all part of the same thing, though. The big emergency right now is that we have thousands of people that we want to take out, and we have some judges that want everybody to go to.

Speaker 136 Some of them you appointed, sir, including three on the Supreme Court.

Speaker 85 I like that.

Speaker 29 I've been hearing that more and more, you know, so that

Speaker 30 when they really want to hammer a point home, sir.

Speaker 85 Some of them you appointed, sir.

Speaker 93 Sir. Yeah.

Speaker 128 Ashimi, your shoulders.

Speaker 88 And we have some judges that want everybody to go to.

Speaker 136 Some of them you appointed, sir.

Speaker 33 Hold on a second.

Speaker 3 What's an implication here is that the judges are political. They don't know that they're doing this, but they're actually

Speaker 3 impugning the court system by making the comment, well, some of them you appointed. In other words,

Speaker 3 so if you appointed them, they should go one way. If you didn't appoint them, they're going to go the other.

Speaker 3 as if the judges are all part of a political system instead of being a judiciary that's independent. Well, I think they're actually saying it out loud.

Speaker 11 She's admitting that these judges are political.

Speaker 43 And that,

Speaker 65 yes, I think you're right.

Speaker 184 That's a good catch.

Speaker 88 The big emergency right now is that we have thousands of people that we want to take out, and we have some judges that want everybody to go to.

Speaker 177 Some of them you appointed, sir, including three on the Supreme Court.

Speaker 88 They change. I mean, it's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable how that happens, but they do change.

Speaker 136 Just to button this up, though, are you planning to lift that emergency order anytime soon?

Speaker 88 Now that the border security is an emergency, we have a massive emergency overall. It's an overall emergency on immigration.
And

Speaker 88 if the courts don't allow us to take people out,

Speaker 88 if we had to have a court case, every single person,

Speaker 88 every single person, we have millions of people. We have millions of court cases.
Figure two weeks a court case, it would be 300 years.

Speaker 72 So, meanwhile um the epp

Speaker 54 the euro parliament uh they have the what do they call them the debates

Speaker 76 they have they have this thing uh in the european parliament where they do debates and it's basically a reason to take a trip so they all went to valencia valencia spain got there right after the blackout coincidentally And then Queen Ursula spoke.

Speaker 18 She spoke for about half an hour.

Speaker 26 I only got two short clips from her.

Speaker 154 But yeah, I mean,

Speaker 51 this is great.

Speaker 81 What's happening in America is great.

Speaker 114 It's great for us.

Speaker 172 Now the world of trade is turning towards us.

Speaker 172 And Frederick, you mentioned it.

Speaker 172 Since last year, we've concluded a new wave of trade deals from Mercosur to Mexico to Switzerland.

Speaker 172 We're working with India and Indonesia, with the Emirates and Thailand, the Philippines, and Malaysia and the Pacific.

Speaker 3 If I clip this, I didn't put what's his name yelling in Boston and for a we're gonna meet we're gonna be in Minnesota and then we're gonna go to Iowa

Speaker 172 well that's why there's two of us they all want to deal with us

Speaker 172 because we are fair

Speaker 172 we are reliable

Speaker 172 and we play by the rules our own rules but it's rules so my friends

Speaker 114 let's stay the course

Speaker 172 cool-headed and united, because that's who we are, and that's the European way of trade.

Speaker 185 Let's stick to that.

Speaker 3 This woman, she's great.

Speaker 12 But the key

Speaker 172 to our prosperity

Speaker 172 is to put our own house in order and to make business easy right here in Europe.

Speaker 12 Okay.

Speaker 48 Business is anything but easy in Europe.

Speaker 85 So she referenced Friedrich.

Speaker 97 Friedrich?

Speaker 123 Stop a second.

Speaker 3 That is a fabulous point that has to be made.

Speaker 3 Doing business in Europe is a pain in the ass for everybody.

Speaker 76 Tons of paperwork.

Speaker 3 That's why they can't get their act together with entrepreneurial stuff. They don't have anything like Silicon Valley.
It's very hard to invest. There's all these roadblocks to this and that.

Speaker 3 Even when they let you do something,

Speaker 3 they'll put up roadblocks. I'm reminded this, at one time I went, so I would go to France.
This is a long time ago, and I had an import license.

Speaker 3 I worked with an importer so I can bring some wine back because I was going to take a big wine.

Speaker 24 I was wondering what it was for.

Speaker 20 Yes, of course, of course.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I imported about, I don't know, 30, 40 cases.

Speaker 133 Oh, beautiful.

Speaker 3 But I, for about

Speaker 3 half the first cases that I got, because there were these two different kinds of paperworks that were involved with getting the wine imported and exported.

Speaker 3 And it was one kind and there was another, one for doing something somewhere and one for getting getting it out of the country.

Speaker 3 And so I had collected a bunch of wine from the Juranson region and I went to see

Speaker 3 the guy who ran Hobai and he was looking at my paperwork. He says, you got the wrong paper.

Speaker 4 Your papers, your papers are not, and all that message.

Speaker 3 Well, he wasn't doing the exporting. He just looked at it.
He says, these guys screwed you over by giving you the wrong paperwork.

Speaker 3 Now you're going to have to go through a rigmarole to get this stuff out of here. And I said, what? He gave me the right paperwork for his wines.
I got a bunch of wine out.

Speaker 3 But when I dropped the wine off, I dropped it off. And, you know, there's all these, oh, you can't do it.
The French guys, the exporters that were there. And he said, oh, this is no good.

Speaker 3 You can't do this. I said, okay,

Speaker 3 here, here's the wine. Here's the paperwork.

Speaker 3 If you can take care of it, you take care of it. Or keep the wine.
I'm out of here. I got to fly back.

Speaker 6 Here's 100.

Speaker 3 The wine all got shipped. It all got shipped.
Oh, really?

Speaker 111 Yeah, it all got shipped. It's all bullcrap.

Speaker 51 They were waiting for a bribe.

Speaker 33 That's what they were waiting for. I don't know.

Speaker 69 Maybe.

Speaker 3 I don't know what it was.

Speaker 73 For sure.

Speaker 76 Your papers are not in order, Mr.

Speaker 33 DeVek.

Speaker 33 So

Speaker 85 she referenced Friedrich,

Speaker 85 Friedrich Mertz, also known as Mr.

Speaker 154 Peepers.

Speaker 40 And Mr. Peepers made it.

Speaker 29 So, I'm going to get to the blackout in a minute, but Mr.

Speaker 46 Peepers made a big deal about climate change.

Speaker 75 Oh, climate change.

Speaker 46 We have to be very careful because, you know, we have this issue where, you know, we want to increase our industrial base, but we kind of have no energy.

Speaker 33 So

Speaker 85 he has a plan for it, and it's very sneaky.

Speaker 6 So he slips this in.

Speaker 186 We have to find a better balance between fighting climate change, which is necessary more than ever.

Speaker 187 More than ever.

Speaker 33 And protecting the environment on the one hand and avoiding deindustrialization on the other hand in our countries.

Speaker 36 And so they're all like, yeah, but yeah, that's right. We need more energy.
We can't do anything.

Speaker 118 Bravo!

Speaker 4 Hi, friends.

Speaker 132 My dear friends,

Speaker 13 whenever someone says to you, my dear friends, you're about to get screwed.

Speaker 6 This is a very real

Speaker 150 and serious issue.

Speaker 187 We will not tackle the enormous challenges ahead with a shrinking economy.

Speaker 19 A thrinking economy?

Speaker 33 Thrinking.

Speaker 19 Sorry to make fun of

Speaker 29 your accent there, but it's what it is.

Speaker 187 The enormous challenges ahead with a shrinking economy,

Speaker 150 we should be ambitious in cutting regulation and relying on market based instruments such as ETS,

Speaker 150 implemented by the European Union.

Speaker 186 Allow me to be very open on that.

Speaker 52 Let us fight over regulation on all levels.

Speaker 33 So he throws in ETS,

Speaker 62 which is the emissions trading system of the European Union.

Speaker 85 So, oh, it'll be less regulation because you just got to buy some carbon credits.

Speaker 66 That's all.

Speaker 66 He's literally announcing a tax on all of the European Union member states.

Speaker 174 And he's doing it under,

Speaker 19 we got to tackle regulation. We got to make it easier.

Speaker 130 Yeah, we'll make it easier.

Speaker 29 Didn't say I was going to make it less expensive.

Speaker 132 So then they bring out Paola Pinot.

Speaker 83 Paola Pinot.

Speaker 174 She is the spokeshole for the European Commission, the worst spokeshole ever when it comes to English.

Speaker 13 And so she chose to do it in English.

Speaker 76 And I think if you're going to be a spokesperson,

Speaker 114 you shouldn't be

Speaker 64 the whole time.

Speaker 74 And so she referenced the blackout that happened just the day, coincidentally, just the day before this Valencia meeting.

Speaker 7 And of course, she brought it right away to disinformation.

Speaker 185 We can really see how far manipulation of information can go and what a negative impact it can be. On the basis of that fake article,

Speaker 185 there were reactions, thinking that there had been a deliberate attack behind, which is obviously

Speaker 185 very

Speaker 185 bad and can have very serious consequences. So this again is an example of how information manipulation undermines the trust in credible sources and organisations.

Speaker 185 She's talking about the article that came out that said it was a cyber attack and it can actually even divide our society in light of such a serious

Speaker 115 incident.

Speaker 185 And in the Commission, we have several tools at our disposal to fight against manipulation of information.

Speaker 185 It includes a task force on strategic communication and countering information manipulation, but also active collaboration with fact checkers, with online platforms.

Speaker 92 Fract checkers.

Speaker 81 We have many fact checkers.

Speaker 109 By the way, just a small interstitial.

Speaker 153 Several people emailed me after I gave the report from our dude named Ben, named Ben, protector of megawatts, whose actual job it is to understand, protect

Speaker 16 grid networks, understand how they're working, what is working, what isn't working.

Speaker 174 And he told me straight up, straight from the people he coordinates with, he talks with.

Speaker 35 He's in the business.

Speaker 29 He said, this is what happened.

Speaker 25 They lost 15 gigawatts from France, and so they had no baseload.

Speaker 13 Then everything started to fluctuate, and then the system just starts to shut down.

Speaker 154 That is what happened.

Speaker 106 But no, no.

Speaker 75 Here is an example.

Speaker 158 Adam, you are misinformed about what caused the outage.

Speaker 41 You must look at Kim Iverson's interview with Ben Davidson on YouTube called Magnetic Pole Shift, Europe's Just the Beginning.

Speaker 24 If you know his credentials, he's the real deal, and he has it right.

Speaker 28 Respectfully, your fan.

Speaker 71 So, this whole nonsense that they launched into the atmosphere right away of, well, no, it's a very rare event, atmospheric conditions.

Speaker 169 And then we've got the space weather guy saying, oh, it's the magnetic pole shift.

Speaker 13 That's what caused it.

Speaker 66 Come on.

Speaker 44 It's like a psyop on top of a psyop.

Speaker 68 No, it's much simpler than that.

Speaker 85 Although the European Commission doesn't know exactly what happened, we go back to Paula Pinho, and she brings in at the very end here

Speaker 98 she tosses over to the lady who's in charge of that.

Speaker 185 Thank you, Christiane, for giving me also the opportunity to precisely make this point and how important it is and how we really need to work together in light of information manipulation in order to counter it.

Speaker 189 And if I still may add, on renewables and use this opportunity, I want to say that the Spanish and Portuguese operators are are well experienced in handling high volumes of renewable generation in their electricity systems.

Speaker 189 So

Speaker 189 we also have clear rules on the EU level in this regard and we ensure that the balancing of the electricity system and its capacity

Speaker 159 is capable of absorbing renewable generation.

Speaker 189 So we still don't know what was the cause of the blackout, but this is on the renewables that there is enough experience to handle it.

Speaker 185 A follow-up touch, we will not

Speaker 185 yet elaborate on that before we really have a solid assessment by the experts.

Speaker 85 So we don't know exactly what happened, but just so you know, we can handle renewables, we've got expertise, we don't know what happened, but we can handle renewables.

Speaker 24 We can do it.

Speaker 67 We don't know what happened.

Speaker 41 We'll follow up when we know what happened.

Speaker 27 Did you even hear my note that I read, or were you offline at that point?

Speaker 54 Can Can you hear me? I can hear you now.

Speaker 33 Yeah, I saw what happened.

Speaker 3 Well, I had to go back. I had to do that because I was yakking at you for the last five minutes about one thing or another and you didn't hear any of it.

Speaker 33 I'm sorry.

Speaker 29 Oh, man. What were you yakking?

Speaker 3 Well, I had gone, it's old news now.

Speaker 19 Well, give me a shot.

Speaker 95 Give me the try me out.

Speaker 3 I don't remember. It was just like some comment I had about something that one of these clips you were playing.
This has been going on for like six, seven minutes.

Speaker 26 I'm so sorry.

Speaker 99 Well, I've got the thing.

Speaker 21 I'll put the monitor right in front of me now so I can see if it happens again.

Speaker 106 It's very annoying.

Speaker 46 I'm telling you, it's a clean feed deal, man.

Speaker 3 That's what I think.

Speaker 95 I mean, it makes no sense for it to be anything else.

Speaker 29 It just switches interfaces.

Speaker 100 Like, oh, no. No.

Speaker 3 I expected it happened once a show.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 62 Whenever I'm talking about PSYOPs,

Speaker 33 there goes. Oh, let's.

Speaker 19 Well, since we're doing that, let's talk about chemtrails.

Speaker 25 This, ever since Bobby the Op came out and talked about this on the Dr.

Speaker 169 Phil show, everybody has to get back into it.

Speaker 98 We're all talking about the chemtrails.

Speaker 11 We even talked about it on the last show.

Speaker 98 I do.

Speaker 3 I think we talked it out in the last show. We don't need to talk about it anymore, do we?

Speaker 33 Well,

Speaker 133 we have to play the mainstream media clips about it because it's funny.

Speaker 174 By the way,

Speaker 46 there is ample evidence.

Speaker 61 I'll send you the links that there's aluminum, barium, all kinds of stuff in jet fuel, in today's modern jet fuel.

Speaker 147 I know that you were an inspector back in the day, but it appears that there are particles now that should probably not be in jet fuel.

Speaker 29 But this is France 24 here to debunk the chemtrails conspiracy.

Speaker 134 Sam Lava Truth or Fate Vedica Beld is over by the big bull. Good evening to you, Vedica.

Speaker 96 Today, then, talking about a conspiracy theory that's now reached all levels of the White House, chemtrails.

Speaker 134 Vedico. Tell me what they are, because I don't know and tell us what's going on.

Speaker 29 I don't know. I've never heard of it.

Speaker 72 I'm a news anchor.

Speaker 156 I've never heard.

Speaker 72 What is this chemtrails nonsense?

Speaker 84 I've never heard of this.

Speaker 151 Well, Mark, the U.S. Health Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. has pledged that the U.S.
will fight chemtrails.

Speaker 151 Now, this is an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory that's been around for decades, but it's been consistently debunked by scientists as completely

Speaker 33 baseless.

Speaker 84 Debunked. Not proven incorrect, but debunked.

Speaker 151 So, the chemtrails conspiracy theory is the belief that these long-lasting condensation trails that we see in the skies left by aircraft, that they are in fact toxic chemical trails that are seeding the skies for weather modification, biological warfare in order to poison us or even to control people's minds in some of the

Speaker 151 extreme believers' cases. Now,

Speaker 151 believers question the existence of these chemtrails and the inconsistencies of them.

Speaker 151 They ask why they're not always there, why is it only some planes that produce them, or why do they come and then disappear essentially. Now, in reality, let's talk the science behind them.

Speaker 151 Well, the scientific basis behind these, these are not chemtrails at all. They are in fact contrails.
In other words, condensation trails.

Speaker 151 They are essentially just temporary plane created clouds and they're made up of water vapor and they take place when the hot jet fuel exhausts, which is mainly water vapor with some soot particles, when that mixes with the colder air at high altitudes, this creates ice crystals that then form these trail-like clouds.

Speaker 151 And these dissipate based on the weather conditions of the region that they're taking place in, of the day. There's many different regions.

Speaker 33 It's amazing.

Speaker 34 So these ice crystals, they float all the way down to the Texas ground.

Speaker 33 Our weather conditions are perfect for ice.

Speaker 151 This isn't to say that weather models modification is entirely false. As a context, we know that cloud seeding exists to induce rain in dry areas, but this is on a very, very small scale worldwide.

Speaker 151 But overall, Mark, according to a 2017 study, around 10% of Americans fully believe in this chemtrails conspiracy theory.

Speaker 11 Yes, and it's about 70% of the town of Fredericksburg.

Speaker 45 And so

Speaker 6 that low?

Speaker 76 Well,

Speaker 11 I don't know that 30% of Democrats.

Speaker 3 Do they expect the chemtrails before the grid goes down?

Speaker 11 And so here she is with a very nifty way of turning it all around to say, well, you know, it's actually not a bad idea.

Speaker 191 And that is scary, isn't it?

Speaker 110 It's so scary.

Speaker 81 It's so scary.

Speaker 60 What's scary?

Speaker 19 The chemtrails or the fact that people think they're chemtrails?

Speaker 191 And that is scary, isn't it?

Speaker 134 So how has this gone from conspiracy theory to actual U.S.

Speaker 176 legislation?

Speaker 151 Well, just recently, RFK Jr. appeared in an interview on the U.S.
television show Dr. Phil, and he said he'd do everything in his power to stop the emissions.

Speaker 151 And he appeared to blame chemtrails, the existence of them, on another government agency.

Speaker 151 When he was asked about chemicals being sprayed in the sky and what he'd do about it, he took the question seriously. Let's take a very quick listen to what he said.

Speaker 33 That is not happening in my agency.

Speaker 116 We don't do that.

Speaker 116 It's done,

Speaker 145 we think, by DARPA.

Speaker 116 And a lot of it now is coming out of the jet fuel.

Speaker 116 So, you know, those materials are put in jet fuel.

Speaker 96 I'm going to do everything in my power to stop it.

Speaker 116 We're bringing on somebody who's going to think of it.

Speaker 151 Now, when he says

Speaker 151 we think it's done by DARPA, what he's referring to is the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which is a part of the U.S. Department of Defense.

Speaker 151 Now, this isn't the first time he's publicly endorsed this. He has previously replied to Chemtrell's fanatics on X, saying we are going to stop this crime.

Speaker 151 But more recently, just a month ago, he replied to this person, this believer in the theory, who was pushing for bills in the U.S. to ban atmospheric geoengineering.

Speaker 151 And what that is, it is a new field of science where scientists are trying to find ways to fight the consequences of fossil fuel pollution that we as humans are creating.

Speaker 151 Now, Kennedy essentially said that 24 states are moving to ban geoengineering and that the health and human services is going to do its part.

Speaker 151 Well, what we know about that is that Tennessee has already banned this

Speaker 151 release of airborne chemicals in geoengineering, the Chemtrails bill. Florida is also moving along that bill forward.
And this February, February, Alabama

Speaker 151 also launched that discussion. They're having those talks at the moment.
So we can see the escalation of this conspiracy theory throughout all levels of the US government.

Speaker 151 And as we said, there's zero scientific basis for this, Mark. So we will have to see how

Speaker 151 it works develops. But should US states move to ban

Speaker 151 geoengineering? It is in its infancy, but this could have

Speaker 151 problematic consequences for

Speaker 151 looking for ways to fight the climate change and the effects of pollution that we as humans are causing here on Earth.

Speaker 13 earth so us dirty humans we're trying to ban chemtrails because we don't like it but that could actually kill us all that's literally what she just did with her yak yak yak well she's going to kill us all as her long-winded observations the lady doth protest us too much methinks

Speaker 3 well i have serious doubts about things being uh put into jet fuel because those engines are very expensive and they're sensitive to all kinds of things And then whatever the chemical is, it goes through

Speaker 3 the burning process would be oxidized and screwed up massively. I don't know why if you're going to start dumping stuff into the sky, you just wouldn't use winglets.
You have

Speaker 3 a little thing at the end of the wing and you

Speaker 3 just spew it out like when they did cloud seeding back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s in California. They weren't doing it through the engine fuel.
They were just dumping it in the air.

Speaker 85 Yeah, but it's DARPA.

Speaker 63 They've got to come up with new things.

Speaker 75 This is what they do.

Speaker 174 Oh, I've got a new way to do it.

Speaker 29 You can be skeptical. That's fine.

Speaker 46 There's more in, look, there are more in California than there are in Texas, so I'm fine with that.

Speaker 77 Although

Speaker 131 the 70% of chemtrail fanatics, as she said, in Fredericksburg are all very upset that our Governor Abbott has not followed suit with Alabama.

Speaker 30 and Florida and banned this practice, this Alabama.

Speaker 173 She had Obama on her mind, I think.

Speaker 18 Alabama.

Speaker 6 By the way, I do have a.

Speaker 96 I have

Speaker 3 not to change the topic.

Speaker 28 You can change the topic. I'm done.

Speaker 3 I don't mind changing the topic.

Speaker 21 I've done my chemtrails bit.

Speaker 3 Since you brought Abbott in,

Speaker 3 where's my Abbott clip?

Speaker 54 You have an Abbott clip.

Speaker 13 Texas voucher.

Speaker 3 Yeah, this is not reported anywhere.

Speaker 193 Governor of Texas has signed a law enabling over 5 million U.S. students to be provided with state funds to pay for education in private schools.

Speaker 193 The scheme, costing a billion dollars in its first two years, is being regarded as a watershed moment in a conservative campaign to remake public education in America. David Bamford reports.

Speaker 194 Texas Governor Greg Abbott has called his education voucher scheme the culmination of a movement sweeping through the U.S.

Speaker 194 Eligible parents in Texas will be offered $10,000 per year to opt out of the state education system.

Speaker 194 The scheme, also being rolled out in other Republican states, has been strongly supported by President Trump, who accuses public schools of indoctrinating children with liberal ideology.

Speaker 194 But Democrats and some rural Republicans argue it diverts resources away from already underfunded public schools.

Speaker 59 Yeah, this session that the

Speaker 82 Texas Congress is going through right now has a lot of really amazing bills.

Speaker 109 SB 13 is one of them, and that will ban, completely ban outlaw books, certain books in schools, libraries, class, anywhere.

Speaker 128 And we know what books they are.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 19 And I think it's going to pass.

Speaker 155 Everyone's, you know, they'd already passed the house.

Speaker 3 This voucher thing is getting no press.

Speaker 3 This was from BBC World Service. That's where I got the story.
And it's a big deal. It's a huge deal because this is what the Republicans have been trying to do since the 60s.
Yeah.

Speaker 90 Yeah. Go figure.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God. They're starting to accomplish it.
Let's don't report on any of it, give anyone any ideas.

Speaker 44 And we say, well, okay, finally, we got we can homeschool, but you're killing us with the chemtrails, Abbott.

Speaker 3 Chemtrails. Where's the jingle? Where's the jingle?

Speaker 4 Chemtrails.

Speaker 3 Already, I knew it.

Speaker 37 Of course.

Speaker 3 Here's the funny story of the week.

Speaker 3 I have some thematic stories, but I want to play a couple of these standalones.

Speaker 3 This is the funniest story of the week. Trump,

Speaker 91 somebody asked Trump.

Speaker 152 Oh, is this about the picture?

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Somebody asked Trump about being the Pope on the White House lawn. He says, Yeah, I say,

Speaker 3 who do you think is going to be the Pope?

Speaker 3 Would you like to be the Pope? Yeah, I think I'll be the Pope. He just casually said it as a joke.
So somebody either Photoshop, they like to say it's AI, but it looks more like Photoshop to me.

Speaker 3 Photoshop Trump in a Pope outfit, and then they posted it, and then Trump White House reposted it. Oh, now it's a big scandal on NPR and PBS.

Speaker 112 And critics are speaking out about an artificial intelligence-generated image that President Trump posted last night to his social media platform. It shows him seated, dressed as the Pope.

Speaker 112 Later, it was reposted on the official White House account on X. In a post of their own, the Catholic bishops of New York State said, there is nothing clever or funny about this image, Mr.
President.

Speaker 112 We just buried our beloved Pope Francis, and the cardinals are about to enter a solemn conclave to elect a new successor of St. Peter.

Speaker 33 Do not mock us.

Speaker 134 Oh, that's a tough one.

Speaker 61 So I got a lot of emails about this because I am the resident religiosity scholar all of a sudden.

Speaker 153 And from Finland,

Speaker 154 our producer,

Speaker 41 Sir Wunderhelm, who was overboard and he came back and he sends me this.

Speaker 51 He says, what is this?

Speaker 122 This is not okay.

Speaker 63 Is this supposed to be funny?

Speaker 174 And I said, You know, we are strange in America, but yeah, this is American humor.

Speaker 15 And

Speaker 3 you don't have to get it. It is funny.

Speaker 131 You don't have to get it.

Speaker 19 It's American humor.

Speaker 18 But then I also got ones like this: like,

Speaker 48 let's see, what is it here?

Speaker 40 You know, this has to do with the Knights Templar and the Jesuits and Catholic infestation.

Speaker 63 The Black Pope runs.

Speaker 28 Oh, brother.

Speaker 38 Yes, it's just a joke.

Speaker 45 I mean, timing may be a little, a little bit.

Speaker 3 I don't even care about the timing.

Speaker 133 But people got so bent out of shape about it.

Speaker 11 You know, Mark Void Zero didn't say, oh, I'm outraged about this.

Speaker 3 If Void Zero said something, we'd say, okay, well, maybe.

Speaker 3 He didn't say anything. And he's a Catholics Catholic.
He's the traditionalist.

Speaker 3 old he's like the guys that the fbi to be investigating

Speaker 40 who says they aren't

Speaker 3 well maybe they are but they can never find his house but the point is is that

Speaker 3 it's like no

Speaker 3 give me a break this is classic the trump has done does one thing there's another thing he had to actually come out and say he's not running in 2028 in one of the morning shows this morning oh he is

Speaker 102 people are so upset about him saying he's going to run for 2028 yeah he never said it by the way he has never said it just has a hat.

Speaker 33 He's got a hat.

Speaker 3 He does a hat, and the hat is funny. And it's Bannon who's been pushing it more than anything.
I should go still go back and get those clips of Bannon on. We need one of those.

Speaker 33 Those hats is what we need.

Speaker 153 I mean, those are collectibles.

Speaker 3 Now that you mention it.

Speaker 38 Yeah, it's a collectible, baby.

Speaker 3 And I have usually

Speaker 3 on the lookout for such things.

Speaker 80 Yes.

Speaker 3 Well, I'm sure

Speaker 3 some of our producers out there, you know, the thing is that one of our producers can send us each one of those hats if they can find them.

Speaker 3 But you know, I forgot to, I was very remiss because I hounded the Ohio State folks for all these sweatshirts, which I ended up with a bunch of them.

Speaker 3 But I never hounded the Florida people because they won the basketball championship, which I had predicted, by the way, way in advance that they would.

Speaker 131 Yeah, you should have done it on the show.

Speaker 33 And I should have gotten,

Speaker 3 I did it on Horowitz's. And I should have gotten

Speaker 3 a zippered hoodie that says Florida. I don't have any Florida gear at all.

Speaker 3 And I think having a a Florida, especially in California, having a Florida hoodie or a sweatshirt, sweatshirt is nice, too.

Speaker 33 Good.

Speaker 97 I want to stay with the Pope for a second because first I got this note.

Speaker 3 I just had to get that in.

Speaker 74 I'm sorry, but they're going to send it to you.

Speaker 61 Don't worry. You'll get it.

Speaker 28 I'm hoping.

Speaker 13 So, first, it was Gateway Pundit.

Speaker 153 I'm like, eh, okay.

Speaker 89 Headline, Francis Macron, reportedly meddling in the choosing of the next Pope, is terrified that conservative Robert Sarah may sit on St.

Speaker 77 Peter's throne.

Speaker 33 Really?

Speaker 36 Yeah, and I'm like, eh, okay.

Speaker 19 But then an article came through from Euronews.

Speaker 149 Is Francis Emmanuel Macron trying to influence who gets picked as the next pope?

Speaker 29 And apparently he is.

Speaker 33 The Italian press is like, hey, what are you doing?

Speaker 102 He had a meeting at the French embassy in Rome.

Speaker 13 You know, he's talking to bishops.

Speaker 82 Are they in the conclave yet?

Speaker 19 I think they're doing the meetings now.

Speaker 37 I think it's just starting.

Speaker 3 Yeah, here. It's cardinals, not bishops.

Speaker 59 What did I say, bishops?

Speaker 33 Yeah. Oh, cardinals.

Speaker 190 Preparations for next week's papal conclave are underway as cardinals gather for prayer and reflection at the Vatican. Nearly all 133 voting cardinals have arrived in Rome ahead of Wednesday's vote.

Speaker 190 Ten of the cardinals are American. 108 were appointed by Pope Francis himself.
And inside the chapel, they'll vote up to four times a day until a two-thirds majority is reached.

Speaker 137 The ceremonial chimney was installed yesterday, where voting ballots will be burnt.

Speaker 195 What the church needs most at this time is to continue the mission that it received from Christ in response to the challenges and the needs, the difficulties and the opportunities of our time, namely from now on.

Speaker 190 And some things to watch for when those voting ballots are burned.

Speaker 137 If you see black smoke, that signals no decision was made. And if the smoke is white, that will announce the selection of a new pope.

Speaker 13 So yeah, the story on Euronews is similar, saying he's afraid that we're going to get a pope who, you know, doesn't like, I don't know, trans stuff.

Speaker 3 He doesn't like men wearing marrying men.

Speaker 71 Yeah, he's got a problem with that.

Speaker 3 That looked like women.

Speaker 11 Yeah, he's got a problem with it.

Speaker 75 Not even a prerequisite, actually.

Speaker 3 Well, you're right. In Macron's case, it's not a prerequisite because his wife doesn't look like a woman.

Speaker 27 He's married to a dude.

Speaker 3 He looks more like a guy.

Speaker 71 And in Italy, they've got psyops all over the place, including a game for the kids.

Speaker 162 An online game by the name Fanta Papa has

Speaker 93 to predict who will be the next pop. The app has 11 cardinals.

Speaker 82 We won't be inside the pop.

Speaker 85 60,000 users of this game who will predict the next pop.

Speaker 79 Who will be the next pop?

Speaker 162 The app has 11 cardinals who are poised to become the next leader.

Speaker 11 And by the way, my guy, not one of the 11 in the game.

Speaker 162 Users have the ability to predict who will partake in the next point for all. The site, which was created in February when Francis was hospitalized, has more than 60,000 registered users.

Speaker 197 I believe this game is a really fun game to play with friends and have a laugh. Initially, my dad sent it to me ironically, but now that

Speaker 197 it's going to be the conclave, I decided to have a go and try it. And I noticed it has so many features and different things you can choose.
So

Speaker 197 I decided to have my channel.

Speaker 110 What game is this?

Speaker 3 Well, it's like closer to the pin.

Speaker 155 No, no, no.

Speaker 29 It's like football teams.

Speaker 197 This is, and I decided to put Tagli as my captain, as my main candidate to become Pope, because he looks like a nice guy and a fun person. So I'm going to do him.

Speaker 162 The users have the ability to select a team just like soccer. They think have the best chance to become the next Pope.

Speaker 162 The app has attracted thousands of youths to choose the top contenders or captains.

Speaker 162 So far, players' top choices have been Francis Secretary Secretary of State, Italian Cardinal Pietro Perolin, closely followed by Matteo Maria Zuppi, Archbishop of Bologna.

Speaker 109 Yeah, my guy's not in there.

Speaker 18 He's not in the guy.

Speaker 3 He's not in the middle.

Speaker 3 Your guys

Speaker 3 is the best idea, by the way. But I had to go back and just reflect on this.

Speaker 3 Trump dressed as the Pope and the left being outraged by it, and especially PBS getting all bent out of shape.

Speaker 3 The gay community dresses as nuns constantly men dress as nuns and they go around ridiculing the catholic church constantly and nobody says crap about it

Speaker 4 yeah that is a very good point john c the borax petty budget

Speaker 46 i think you're spot on

Speaker 33 that's right

Speaker 41 is it's uh a story hour with uh

Speaker 45 drag queen story hour in nuns outfits you're right

Speaker 154 yeah You are spot on, as usual.

Speaker 118 I'm glad.

Speaker 28 I'm well.

Speaker 26 As usual. As usual.

Speaker 3 I'm glad you are using it. I wasn't

Speaker 3 as spot on as I could have been with my timing. Another short clip,

Speaker 3 just for educational purposes. I don't know what's going on with this one.
Eric Adams is allowing the call to prayer in New York, in Manhattan.

Speaker 198 Historic step here in New York City in support of the Muslim community. Mayor Adams announced new guidelines clearing the way for the Muslim call to prayer to bring out freely.

Speaker 198 For too long, there has been confusion about which communities are allowed to imply their calls to prayer today.

Speaker 36 Impliply to what?

Speaker 3 Amplify. Oh, amplify.

Speaker 198 Confusion about which communities are allowed to imply their calls to

Speaker 198 prayer today. We are cutting red tape and saying clearly: if you are a mosque or a house of worship of any kind, you do not have to apply for a permit to amplify your call to Friday prayer.

Speaker 119 Yeah, I've seen videos of these guys walking down the street with a big boom box and a wireless mic.

Speaker 103 Hmm.

Speaker 3 Well, let me, I have some thoughts on this.

Speaker 3 Okay, yeah, go. One, if you've been to the Middle East at all, I've been a couple times.

Speaker 3 The call for prayer thing is not on Fridays. It's six times a day, all the time.
Yes. And it's actually quite pleasant if you're, you know, a tourist because

Speaker 3 if you don't live next to it, you're not living there because it's something romantic about it. It's just, and it's, and it's a very, it's a nice, especially when you have a, uh, some of these Muslim

Speaker 3 preachers, what are they, Kamulahs, who can sing and they can sing in Arabic, and it's very, it's just a great sound, but very few people can do it well.

Speaker 3 But it's all the time and they have amplifiers and it's very loud. And this contradicts something that I was giving a lecture.

Speaker 3 I think I was in Dubai at the time by a British guy who said the Muslims, especially the Middle East Muslims, we're not talking about the ones in Indonesia, which I never heard this going on there.

Speaker 3 They have this big thing about, oh, you can't do this. You can't do anything.
It's pre-Muham Muhammad. If it's not in the Quran, you can't.

Speaker 3 So words for computer have to be manufactured. They can't be, they have to be made out of words.
Everything has to be old-fashioned.

Speaker 3 But yet, they can use amplifiers and they got these huge speakers and the giant 10,000-watt amps. That's okay.

Speaker 6 How does that work?

Speaker 3 Some Muslim can explain that one to me.

Speaker 127 When I was in Iraq, or as some would say, Iraq,

Speaker 60 and I hope I have this.

Speaker 48 I'd have to dig deep into the archives.

Speaker 61 That was 2003.

Speaker 102 I acquired an alarm clock, and I think it came out of, I think it was made from in Pakistan, plastic alarm clock.

Speaker 98 And six times a day, this clock would do the do the call to prayer.

Speaker 18 Gosh, I hope I have that somewhere still.

Speaker 123 Well, that's a great item.

Speaker 157 Yeah, it was one of those, one of those things you pick up on your travels.

Speaker 9 Donate to a no agenda,

Speaker 9 they give us shows week after week. Donate to a no agenda, it's a show that's really unique.

Speaker 9 Donate to a no agenda. Listen to John and Adams speak.
Donate to a no agenda. Science is turning into a clique.

Speaker 24 So let's amplify that in New York.

Speaker 84 Yeah.

Speaker 11 For the know it, the Church of No Agenda.

Speaker 84 I'm all for it.

Speaker 117 Well, the people in Amsterdam and Rotterdam are not happy because this is also allowed this amplification of call to prayer.

Speaker 65 And

Speaker 76 it's not the culture of the Netherlands, or wasn't.

Speaker 46 I think it probably is becoming that.

Speaker 36 And people are annoyed by it.

Speaker 40 Just like they're annoyed by incessant church bells, I might point out.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there was a lot of complaining about church bells in some areas. Most of the time I've run it when there's churches around, it's only been on a Sunday, and they'll ring the bells.
And

Speaker 3 the University of California

Speaker 3 has the campanile, and they used to play songs at noon,

Speaker 3 various tunes. I think they stopped even doing that.
I don't know if they do it anymore.

Speaker 3 But they had enough bells up there. They could play

Speaker 3 some various recognizable songs.

Speaker 97 Like what?

Speaker 33 What recognizable songs?

Speaker 3 Well, jingle bells would be during the wintertime. They could play that easy.

Speaker 92 Did they?

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 33 Ding-ling-ding, ding-ling-ding.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 83 I see you have a series.

Speaker 71 I'm going to lead you into it with two very short clips.

Speaker 40 We start off with breaking news: a major scare.

Speaker 94 Everybody, be afraid, be afraid.

Speaker 19 It's very dangerous. Breaking news.

Speaker 200 Tonight from Chicago, health officials are warning travelers about possible measles exposure at Chicago's O'Hare airport.

Speaker 191 They say an infected adult was in Terminal One

Speaker 191 from 10 a.m. until 8 p.m.
on Tuesday, and then again on Wednesday of last week. That person who lives in Cook County testing positive for measles.

Speaker 38 No, no, this is crazy.

Speaker 38 This is crazy.

Speaker 67 Oh, important medical information.

Speaker 43 He was in the airport on Sunday and then again went to

Speaker 41 shoot him.

Speaker 19 Yes, shoot him.

Speaker 201 Now to alarming health news. The ADC reports that 216 children have died from the flu in the U.S.
this season, the highest number in 15 years.

Speaker 201 Experts linked the increase to falling vaccination rates among kids, down from 64% five years ago to 49% this season. And with flu season still ongoing, that number could climb.

Speaker 19 60,000 people a year die from flu.

Speaker 111 Yeah, that's what they say.

Speaker 3 This number is questionable. But so since you brought that up, I do have a series of clips from PBS about the flu vaccine and how important it is.
And I want you to guess

Speaker 3 who the guests are going to have. They're going to talk to on this, on PBS,

Speaker 3 this fabulous product that the government helps pay for okay what stooge look let me just I hate to use the word what stooge bullshit artist the guy is the worst worst of the worst do you think they're going to bring on to talk about vaccinations well I have a couple of a couple of uh candidates uh without a doubt I would put HOTEP at the top of the list

Speaker 112 there were twelve seasonal flu related deaths of children this week according to the CDC that brings the total number of pediatric flu deaths this season to 216.

Speaker 112 That's the most in 15 years, and the flu season isn't even over yet.

Speaker 36 I'm detecting a pattern here that the

Speaker 46 big pharma complex has injected into our news, into our independent newsrooms.

Speaker 112 Experts say one reason for this new record could be the plummeting flu vaccination rate for American children. It went from 64% five years ago to 49% this season

Speaker 144 and this week.

Speaker 36 Wait a minute, was that the same amount they said on the other clip?

Speaker 3 That doesn't sound like I remember having a

Speaker 33 specific number. Hold on, I want to hear it.

Speaker 118 Now, to alarming

Speaker 201 news, the CDC reports that 216 children have died from the flu in the U.S. this season, the highest number in 15 years.

Speaker 201 Experts linked the increase to falling vaccination rates among kids, down from 64% five years ago to 49% this season.

Speaker 103 Same number.

Speaker 112 Seasonal flu-related deaths of children this week, according to the CDC. That brings the total number of pediatric flu deaths this season to 216.

Speaker 54 Yeah, the memo went out. The same numbers.

Speaker 29 That's the most intense.

Speaker 3 It's exactly the same report.

Speaker 82 It's almost the same guy.

Speaker 112 And the flu season isn't even over yet. Experts say one reason for this new record could be the plummeting flu vaccination rate for American children.

Speaker 59 Who are the experts?

Speaker 112 It went from 64% five years ago to 49% this season. And this week, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.

Speaker 41 Kennedy Jr.

Speaker 112 announced plans for new safety testing requirements for vaccines.

Speaker 112 That could delay the availability of new vaccines, including a COVID booster for this fall. Virologist Dr.
Peter Hotez

Speaker 112 is at the Baylor College of Medicine. Dr.
Hotez, there's a lot I want to talk to you about.

Speaker 19 This guy needs to be tar and feathered and run out of Texas.

Speaker 112 But let's start with that

Speaker 112 new record for pediatric flu deaths this season.

Speaker 116 What do you make of that?

Speaker 166 Well, I think it probably is related to the decline in immunization since most pediatric influenza deaths occur among the unvaccinated, like most of the other viral infections that we've been seeing.

Speaker 166 But remember, the context of this, this is on top of four-fold rise in measles outbreaks over the last year, even before what was going on with this current major epidemic, a six-fold rise in pertussis cases.

Speaker 66 Okay.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so he goes. goes yeah, so he, everything is because of vaccination, of course.
This guy who they mentioned, well, play the second, play it, play on.

Speaker 166 The big picture is we're going in the wrong direction in terms of children not getting the vaccines that they should be getting.

Speaker 112 Is this a holdover from the vaccination hesitancy that emerged during the COVID pandemic?

Speaker 166 It very well might be. There's been some Gallup surveys and others that have shown that spillover effect, that the same parts of the country where

Speaker 166 adults were refusing to get COVID vaccines are now spilling over to childhood immunizations.

Speaker 166 So, for instance, in West Texas, which had some of the lowest COVID vaccination rates in the country, guess what?

Speaker 166 That's where we have our ginormous, ginormous, ginormous measles epidemic right now in West Texas in the panhandle.

Speaker 166 And it's going up into the conservative rural areas of the Great Plains where COVID vaccinations were also low.

Speaker 166 So, I think the big picture is there is that spillover effect from anti-vaccine activism that accelerated during COVID now into childhood immunizations.

Speaker 161 Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

Speaker 109 Ginormous.

Speaker 19 It's bigger than gigantic or enormous.

Speaker 171 It's ginormous.

Speaker 62 That's a very scientific term, I understand.

Speaker 3 Ginormous is what the left uses, and that was popularized. The term was mostly popularized by Rachel Maddow.

Speaker 51 Oh, you're right.

Speaker 26 She loved saying ginormous.

Speaker 35 You're right.

Speaker 112 You know, I know you've developed vaccines yourself.

Speaker 112 What do you make of what Secretary Kennedy said, that he wants to see new vaccines tested with placebos?

Speaker 41 What do you think of that?

Speaker 166 This has been his playbook the last few weeks. Every few days, he comes out with a new statement that misrepresents vaccine safety or effectiveness.

Speaker 166 For instance, you know, he made it almost sound as if we don't routinely test vaccines against placebo control.

Speaker 166 In fact, just about all of the childhood immunizations historically have been tested against placebo controls, typically in randomized studies.

Speaker 166 So I don't really understand the basics of the new announcement, other than the fact that when we do a randomized placebo-control trial for something like a COVID vaccine, we do it at the first time around.

Speaker 166 But as we're updating, because you're making minor adjustments

Speaker 166 in the composition of the vaccine to reflect new variants, we don't typically repeat the entire placebo randomized control trial because they're incredibly expensive. And sometimes they're not doable

Speaker 166 given the size of what they are and the time it would take. So I hope he's not suggesting that we have to do an entirely new randomized placebo control trial every time we update a vaccine.

Speaker 103 Wow.

Speaker 124 Wow, what a scathing admission that is.

Speaker 33 You know, but we can't, we're tweaking it.

Speaker 29 We're just tweaking it.

Speaker 38 What does that even mean?

Speaker 70 Yeah, we're just doing a little dance.

Speaker 68 We're tweaking a little bit.

Speaker 155 You know, it's like just tightening the bolts on the system.

Speaker 3 Some DNA.

Speaker 131 Yeah, yeah, you know, just adding it.

Speaker 3 Add some frags.

Speaker 41 Just adding some bits and bobs, baby.

Speaker 33 We don't have to test that.

Speaker 6 That's safe and effective.

Speaker 3 They have to get liability back into the picture. There's no, there's no lie.

Speaker 3 You could be shooting people with dog poop.

Speaker 3 It's no liability.

Speaker 180 You can't sue them.

Speaker 3 What good is it?

Speaker 3 How is this protecting the consumer? Is that the last clip or the thing is one of the things?

Speaker 27 No, you have one more.

Speaker 33 I'm delighted to say.

Speaker 84 More Hotep?

Speaker 97 All of the time.

Speaker 112 Is the effect of this to undermine confidence in vaccines, do you think?

Speaker 110 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 33 Leading the witness.

Speaker 3 By the way, this is not scripted at all.

Speaker 35 Or leading the witness.

Speaker 112 Is the effect of this to undermine confidence in vaccines, do you think?

Speaker 166 Well, this is the bigger picture. Remember, you know, what RFK Jr.
has been saying every few days. First, he said the MMR vaccine was leaky, whatever that means.

Speaker 166 And when he talks about suggesting people get the MMR vaccine, he always pairs it or often pairs it with a cocktail of useless interventions for preventing measles.

Speaker 166 Or he says that the measles hospitalizations are due to quarantine and isolation, which is not true. These kids are really, really sick.
Now is the time.

Speaker 166 The Department of Health and Human Services needs to be doubling down.

Speaker 84 Hold on a second.

Speaker 56 He says something kind of odd here.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you noticed it too, didn't you?

Speaker 33 Yeah, so he, he, he, it's called like, it's like moving the Overton window, whatever it is.

Speaker 27 So

Speaker 46 Kennedy says this is because people are quarantined and they're not getting measles anymore.

Speaker 76 And then he says, no, these kids are sick.

Speaker 104 Like, I mean,

Speaker 73 it says non-sequitur.

Speaker 166 Yes.

Speaker 166 Quarantine and isolation, which is not true. These kids are really, really sick.
Now is the time.

Speaker 166 The Department of Health and Human Services needs to be doubling down on telling the American people to vaccinate their kids and highlighting the and emphasizing the safety and effectiveness of vaccines, not tearing it down.

Speaker 166 So I do think it's starting to have a very damaging effect.

Speaker 112 Dr. Peter Hotez, thanks as always.

Speaker 3 As always, you're on all the time. We're bringing you back every chance we can because we're paid money to do it.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 on top of the government funding.

Speaker 26 It's pretty pathetic.

Speaker 31 It's pretty pathetic.

Speaker 155 Yeah, come on, Bobby.

Speaker 71 Where's the Rico case?

Speaker 12 Where's the stopping of advertising?

Speaker 152 Talk is cheap, Bobby.

Speaker 33 Come on.

Speaker 103 Come on now.

Speaker 83 I mean, I'll give them some time.

Speaker 95 I'll give them another 100 days.

Speaker 46 I think the next 100 days of the Trump administration, they're going to ramp it up.

Speaker 148 They're going to ramp everything up so much.

Speaker 3 Well, they're going to have to because people are demanding it. I don't know what they're going to do about the Epstein thing because I believe now that that doesn't exist.
It's been destroyed.

Speaker 3 The Diddy stuff, I don't know, is going to trial, I think, this week or coming this coming week.

Speaker 111 Tonight, Sean Combs makes it official.

Speaker 58 It was perfect timing.

Speaker 33 It was perfect.

Speaker 33 It was.

Speaker 156 He said, do it again.

Speaker 27 I'll edit it out.

Speaker 3 Diddy is going to trial any minute.

Speaker 163 Tonight, Sean Combs makes it official. He's rejecting the government's offer to plead guilty and spare himself the possibility of a prolonged term in prison.

Speaker 163 When asked if he turned down the offer, Combs answered, yes, I do, Your Honor, as he stood in a baggy beige jail uniform.

Speaker 163 Terms were not disclosed, but prosecutors did say a plea could result in a shorter sentence for Combs than if he's convicted.

Speaker 163 The decision guarantees Combs will face trial beginning just four days from now that will test whether one of music's most prolific figures used his power, wealth, and fame to sexually exploit both women and men for decades.

Speaker 163 Combs has pleaded not guilty to racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking, and transportation to engage in prostitution charges that accused him of coercing alleged victims into prolonged drug-fueled sexual activity that he called freak-offs and threatening them into silence.

Speaker 163 At trial, Combs will ditch the jail garb and wear ordinary clothes. As his lawyers argue, the evidence shows consenting adults being intimate in their own way.

Speaker 6 In their own way.

Speaker 85 Everybody's consenting.

Speaker 39 In their own way. Yeah,

Speaker 67 I'm not.

Speaker 3 Passed out.

Speaker 33 You're consenting.

Speaker 23 I thought his way was being passed out.

Speaker 3 out, so that's why I did it.

Speaker 19 So no Epstein, but we got Diddy, get the black man.

Speaker 3 Well, the black, that's also, you know, the thing he wants to go to trial because somebody, at least somebody in his king camp, knows that you go to trial,

Speaker 3 that means discovery.

Speaker 3 And discovery means some names are going to come out that don't want to have their names come out. And maybe they can do a deal or do something or kill him.

Speaker 65 Meanwhile, in related news over in the United Kingdoms.

Speaker 191 Overseas tonight, actor and comedian Russell Brand making his first court appearance since being charged with rape and sexual assault in London.

Speaker 191 Brand pushing his way through a mob of photographers outside the courthouse. Four women accusing him in separate alleged attacks between 1999 and 2005.
The judge releasing him on conditional bail.

Speaker 191 Brand denies the allegations.

Speaker 33 They are railroading this guy.

Speaker 46 It sounds like a Snowden thing to me.

Speaker 3 There's a little bit of that, but it's also he's not doing himself any favors with his commentary.

Speaker 27 Well,

Speaker 16 he lives in Florida now, but he doesn't even live in the UK.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 I know how they got him out there.

Speaker 118 He has to.

Speaker 100 He has to, or he'll be extradited.

Speaker 3 Was he extradited or was he

Speaker 3 just still in Florida?

Speaker 40 Now he has to attend the

Speaker 31 yeah, he takes British Airways.

Speaker 130 He has to attend the

Speaker 71 trials, but he can go back to Florida.

Speaker 105 Seems kind of odd.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 72 I have,

Speaker 95 what's the time?

Speaker 109 Yeah, we can do this.

Speaker 95 I have three clips from the guy I like most when it comes to EU, UK, Ukraine, and NATO, Andrew Rasoulis.

Speaker 40 He's the former military dude from Candinavia, about the minerals deal that we signed with Ukraine, which we've heard very little about.

Speaker 33 Have you heard much about that in the US media besides that something happened?

Speaker 64 Yeah.

Speaker 109 Do you know?

Speaker 3 We had a bunch of clips in the last show about it.

Speaker 89 Yeah, but it just says we have a deal, but do you know the terms of the deal?

Speaker 14 Do you know anything about it?

Speaker 25 No, we didn't get any of that from our clips.

Speaker 175 Do you know?

Speaker 3 Well, I thought the terms of the deal was we just had to spend a lot of money, give them more money.

Speaker 53 We're going to speak with Andrew Rasoulis yet again.

Speaker 182 He is a Defense and Eastern European Affairs expert with the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Andrew, thank you for joining us again.
Appreciate your time.

Speaker 204 You're very welcome, Shay.

Speaker 182 Okay, so this deal, we know this has been touted as key to Ukraine's fortunes here. Zelensky is saying he's hopeful this guarantees continued support support from the Americans.

Speaker 116 So this was absolutely essential, right?

Speaker 204 Well, it's an important building block, but it's a building block, but it's not a keystone, is the way I describe it to a peace settlement.

Speaker 204 And we have to remember that the agreement that was signed now is a reasonably watered-down agreement.

Speaker 204 Now,

Speaker 204 the key element of the first agreement that Ukraine proposed was that basically the United States, in return for having access to these minerals and revenues and so on, would provide solid military guarantees to Ukraine in the event of a peace settlement with Russia.

Speaker 204 The Americans countered that with saying, no way for a security thing. And by the way, we want all this money back from Ukraine to repay loans or costs that we invented in your defense.

Speaker 204 So the Ukrainians said, no way. Now, the third option, which they did sign, is a watered-down version.

Speaker 204 There is no guarantee in American security for Ukraine, but there is a paragraph that suggests it might be possible. It's an option for the United States to exercise.

Speaker 124 So it's half and a half.

Speaker 204 It's an option. And for the Ukrainians,

Speaker 204 there is no obligation to repay debt, so-called, for American assistance. Rather, the profits here, both American and Ukrainian, will be primarily directed at the reconstruction of Ukraine.

Speaker 204 So that's the kind of... So

Speaker 204 it's a bit of a win-win, but it's not that huge thing that was supposed to be the security guarantee in the event of a peace settlement. That's not there.

Speaker 97 Okay, so the way I see this is

Speaker 179 if we make any money off of those minerals, if you got them,

Speaker 179 then

Speaker 76 maybe we'll provide you some security if it's any good.

Speaker 113 And any profits

Speaker 125 will go and build stuff in your country, which we're going to profit off of.

Speaker 97 Sounds like a good deal for us.

Speaker 3 Except for the fact we can't get to the minerals, there's no real mining going on, and it's possible there's no minerals at all, and they're full of crap, those guys. Ukrainians are criminals.

Speaker 3 So it's no offense to to the Ukrainian listeners that we have.

Speaker 33 No, not at all.

Speaker 3 They have a lot of shysters there, let's put it that way.

Speaker 81 Does this mean there's a possibility of a peace deal? Now, it comes at a time when we know, and we heard from U.S.

Speaker 182 Vice President J.D. Vence just yesterday: hey, look, peace isn't coming anytime soon.

Speaker 116 So it looks like

Speaker 41 the prospect of reaching a broader deal with Russia and Ukraine,

Speaker 182 the hopes just continue to diminish, don't they?

Speaker 204 Well, they continue.

Speaker 204 I'm not going to say diminish, because that's every day it's a little different. I would say to you objectively that talks are continuing.
And like

Speaker 204 a lot of what's going on now, we don't hear about because it's behind the scenes, as it should be.

Speaker 204 And so there's a lot of, I think, looking for the deals that are

Speaker 204 in corridors.

Speaker 204 The Americans are talking to basically everybody and trying to broker something, but they're also expressing frustration and saying they're not going to run around the globe at high level, like Rubio's not going to run around the globe, right?

Speaker 204 But officials are meeting. They're talking.
I mean, we don't know the mechanisms, and it's behind closed doors. Will this succeed? We do not know.

Speaker 204 Is there an incentive for both sides to come to an agreement? Yes, depending on the terms. Both sides at some point get exhausted by this, but it's always the question of the deal.

Speaker 204 You get exhausted, but for what benefit, what carrot is out there for you to actually make a compromise? And that's where things are right now. You know, May 9th looms out there.

Speaker 204 That's Victory in Europe Day. The Russians would love to have a peace settlement then.

Speaker 204 Would the Ukrainians agree with what the Russians want? Would the Russians agree? I don't know, Shay, but that's the next target date. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 29 But there is some change. This is the final clip.

Speaker 75 What is Russia thinking about all this?

Speaker 152 What have we heard from Russia?

Speaker 182 Like I say, Zelensky talking about this deal being reached.

Speaker 33 I mean, Russia's not involved in the deal, but it affects it.

Speaker 27 What have we heard from Russia lately about this whole situation?

Speaker 204 Well, on the deal, deal, the Russians have not commented in any political way. They've simply acknowledged that it exists.
It's kind of a so what. It's kind of a so what.

Speaker 204 But the Russians keep reiterating.

Speaker 204 We're hearing two things from the Russians. One, we hear the maximal things we want, everything we said we want.
But two, there's been an important nuance.

Speaker 204 Putin has said that he's prepared to meet with Zelensky, even though he sees that Zelensky is not a legitimate elected ruler because the five-year mandate has expired.

Speaker 204 This is an important concession, and the same from the Ukrainians.

Speaker 204 Zelensky has said he's prepared to meet with the Russians and with Putin, because even though there's a Ukrainian law that says you can't negotiate with the Russians, but he said that's an exception, okay?

Speaker 204 And Rubio is saying at some point, the Russians and the Ukrainians are going to have to sit down and make a final deal. And that's the point.

Speaker 204 You see, so the fact that we've heard noises from Zelensky and Putin suggesting that the doors open to sit down at a table one day means that they acknowledge this fact.

Speaker 204 And I think the Americans are hedging them to this. When will that happen? I don't know.
But eventually, I believe it will.

Speaker 107 Okay.

Speaker 6 I like that.

Speaker 3 By the way, where did that come from?

Speaker 179 That is from Edmonton Radio.

Speaker 42 That's why it sounds so crap.

Speaker 13 That was quite good.

Speaker 18 Thank you. I like Rasoulis.

Speaker 38 I like this guy.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 11 He's definitely in the know.

Speaker 18 He's one of those ex-militaries.

Speaker 23 Yeah, no, you can tell. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 He knows. The way people do a presentation, whether they know what what they're talking about or not.

Speaker 104 Yeah, so then we don't get that kind of information here, in my opinion.

Speaker 29 At least I'm not finding it. Your opinion?

Speaker 33 It's a fact.

Speaker 35 I'm not finding it.

Speaker 85 Before we take a break, shall we do it? You only have one, I see.

Speaker 15 That's a little disappointing, but.

Speaker 3 Well, actually, I have a pre-break clip, but I think it might be better for the second break, which is the Victor David Hansen clip on the Democrat dilemma.

Speaker 23 Oh,

Speaker 3 but you, but I think that's a good clip to lead into the second break, and you'll see why when you play the clip. Okay.

Speaker 41 But let's for the clip you're promoting is.

Speaker 94 Yeah, everybody.

Speaker 8 It's everybody's favorite moment.

Speaker 4 TikTok.

Speaker 33 John's jerk of the day.

Speaker 3 This was the worst. I could not find any good TikTok clips.
There were a lot of good ones that were visually interesting

Speaker 3 from distressed weirdos, but

Speaker 3 they didn't have the audio I wanted. And so this is the best I could do.
This is the only TikTok clip I have for today's show.

Speaker 155 Oh, disappointing.

Speaker 84 Only one.

Speaker 38 Yeah. And it's short.

Speaker 33 Oh, man. All right.
Well, we'll take what we can get.

Speaker 206 How can anyone with a functioning brain cell still say that Donald Trump was the correct choice for president after these first 100 days?

Speaker 206 I just watched Kamala Harris's speech tonight, and it is very, very evident that it just should have been her. She should be the president of the United States right now and not Donald Trump.

Speaker 33 Did you see that speech by Harris? She was just.

Speaker 3 This speech was the worst.

Speaker 3 She just babbled on about meaningless crap, including the elephant stuff.

Speaker 156 She was, I happen to have, what do I have?

Speaker 61 I have 30 seconds of it, if you want to.

Speaker 28 Yeah, play some of it.

Speaker 207 In fact, please allow me, friends, to digress for a moment.

Speaker 145 Okay.

Speaker 202 Okay.

Speaker 207 Thank you. It's kind of dark in here, but I'm asked for a show of hands.
Who saw that video from a couple of weeks ago? The one of the elephants at the San Diego Zoo during the earthquake?

Speaker 207 Google it if you've not seen it.

Speaker 207 So that scene has been on my mind. Everybody's asking me, what you've been thinking about these days.
Well,

Speaker 207 brother.

Speaker 75 Yeah, she should be president.

Speaker 13 She's so these TikTok people, you know, I keep telling you that they're just engagement farming and they just want to get clicks and likes.

Speaker 54 And people are pushing back on me about that.

Speaker 18 They're like, no, no, you have to understand

Speaker 48 these people are real.

Speaker 130 These people are at my job.

Speaker 75 These people are at my school.

Speaker 13 These people are in my community.

Speaker 3 I'll take the side of the pushbackers.

Speaker 23 I agree with them.

Speaker 125 And, well,

Speaker 46 I'm actually sad about that.

Speaker 33 I mean, these people are like clouds without water.

Speaker 3 There are very few moments in our relationship and the relationship with you and the audience and everything that you're an optimist very very seldom does this happen yeah well you do you used to wear rose colored glasses when i first met you i remember that that's correct but the uh correct

Speaker 3 but generally speaking you have kind of a dim attitude or a negative attitude but but in this case you have an extremely positive attitude thinking that this that everyone's a phony and and life's good these people are legit legitimately nuts they're insane individuals that are pathetic and uh there's no other way of putting it but that makes me feel sad i know i know you don't like the idea they are clouds without water they are autumn trees they're autumn trees without fruit in fact john they are wandering stars for whom the black darkness has been reduced

Speaker 73 they are the fruit

Speaker 130 with that i want to thank you for your courage say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the chemtrail fanatic say hello to my friend on the other end the one, the only, Mr.

Speaker 63 John C.

Speaker 4 DeVore.

Speaker 3 Wow, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam.
I'm training more, ship sea boots on the ground, feeding the air subs in the water to the dames and the knights out there.

Speaker 4 In the morning to the trolls in the troll room, I encounter Stop Robinson. Jump Robin, here we go.

Speaker 33 Okay, that's getting better. 2,403 peak trollage.
That's not bad. I'll take that.

Speaker 13 They are hanging out at trollroom.io, which is where you can go to join the trolls,

Speaker 51 who are very handy.

Speaker 62 I mean, I have the troll room open out of the corner of my eye, my peripheral vision.

Speaker 141 I see what you're saying.

Speaker 167 I get one-liners.

Speaker 154 I get jokes.

Speaker 13 I get ideas, all kinds of criticisms, trolling, trolls, lots of trolls.

Speaker 169 But I like it.

Speaker 34 We, in fact, have a studio audience where we do flash the applause sign, but you don't hear them.

Speaker 48 It's a beautiful system we've devised.

Speaker 62 You can also enjoy this on a modern podcast app by going to podcastapps.com.

Speaker 11 And you will even get alerted when the shows go live. And there are many shows.
You know, doing a big live show next Saturday on the No Agenda stream with Booberry and

Speaker 33 the No Agenda stream people.

Speaker 60 They do these live music shows.

Speaker 41 It's really good. Is that right?

Speaker 33 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 27 Oh, they do it all the time. Well, hello.

Speaker 62 Do you ever listen?

Speaker 141 Saturday. It's going to be Saturday.

Speaker 61 I think six o'clock is when it's.

Speaker 3 I'm usually doing clips on Saturday.

Speaker 29 Well, you can keep it on the background.

Speaker 45 So you'll get an alert when that kicks off.

Speaker 46 And, of course, we have all kinds of

Speaker 133 extra cool bits. We've got transcripts.

Speaker 13 We've got chapters with chapter art that changes.

Speaker 106 All these modern podcast apps observe that and change it while you're driving so you're entertained.

Speaker 29 Keep your eyes on the road, though.

Speaker 98 And that art comes from people who support the show, our producers who support us with time and talent.

Speaker 22 We have three versions of support because all we want, we give you the show as a service, just like PBS, only you're not required to spend your tax dollars on us.

Speaker 24 You can spend your tax return.

Speaker 27 That's a good idea.

Speaker 3 Yes, you're good. And anywhere there's an internet connection, you can get the show.
It's, there's no desert.

Speaker 126 There is no, there is no desert.

Speaker 156 And we're available on Starlink, I hear. So

Speaker 37 yes.

Speaker 63 Time, talent, treasure, these are the three ways that you can support us.

Speaker 174 And noagendaartgenerator.com is where

Speaker 13 You can upload your art if you want to participate.

Speaker 11 It's also where you can just follow along during the live show, or if you prefer,

Speaker 143 you can go back after the fact.

Speaker 107 A lot of these images show up in

Speaker 157 our chapter art.

Speaker 154 Thank you very much, Dreb Scott.

Speaker 36 And it was a contentious pick.

Speaker 57 It wasn't easy, the last show.

Speaker 11 There were a lot of different things.

Speaker 71 Nothing really stood out where we say, yeah, that's the one.

Speaker 156 But Darren O'Neal, just, it was still a laugh.

Speaker 13 It's very inside this piece of art because you are famous, of course, as

Speaker 47 an author of many bestseller books.

Speaker 13 And that was the piece that was missing.

Speaker 147 It did not have the star emblem.

Speaker 33 Sticker. Little sticker.

Speaker 83 Little sticker that says instant bestseller.

Speaker 62 This was the blackmail for fun and profit book, What's That in Your Mouth?

Speaker 20 by John C.

Speaker 85 Dvorak.

Speaker 49 I still laugh when I see it.

Speaker 30 And expertly done through the AI by Darren O'Neill.

Speaker 30 I think there were some other pieces

Speaker 15 because at a certain point, you just said,

Speaker 154 You choose. I don't like it.

Speaker 21 I don't like any of it.

Speaker 3 I like the maple syrup on fire.

Speaker 68 Yeah, but that was a monologue.

Speaker 3 Darren also did.

Speaker 143 Well, what we really discussed were the COBOL t-shirts.

Speaker 111 So we, for a long time,

Speaker 29 we talked about the COBOL knucklehead.

Speaker 46 I personally liked the COBOL is for schmucks, but then

Speaker 3 you violated your main rule.

Speaker 33 It's too small.

Speaker 75 It was too small.

Speaker 11 You like the mastermind's unclippable wench, but I thought that was too

Speaker 71 very.

Speaker 51 You also liked the boobs.

Speaker 47 Of course, there was a boobage there from Scaramanga.

Speaker 17 The boob, boobaban

Speaker 30 with the girl riding the bike on the pedal bike on the autobahn.

Speaker 11 You even said, oh, how about the Ferrari in a country road?

Speaker 133 I mean, none of that was right.

Speaker 25 You were just grasping at straws.

Speaker 3 It makes it sound like I was a maniac. A little bit.

Speaker 149 And then we even discussed making COBOL for schmucks the title.

Speaker 109 And then we went, you know, that's not a good idea.

Speaker 143 No.

Speaker 85 I got a lot of feedback on the COBOL, as expected.

Speaker 127 Let me see, where is my

Speaker 28 COBOL?

Speaker 75 Yes.

Speaker 75 So two things.

Speaker 89 One from John Daly says,

Speaker 13 yeah, it seems obvious John's never seen COBOL.

Speaker 152 The features of COBOL are straightforward, yes.

Speaker 174 However, when you start talking about five million lines of production COBOL, it's a nightmare.

Speaker 13 The features of the language are limited, which also makes it more difficult to do common and important things, which creates a bloat.

Speaker 51 So

Speaker 19 real-world COBOL applications are not as cool as Java, for instance.

Speaker 101 Who thinks Java is cool?

Speaker 141 Which has features to create a kind of language of structure that allows quick interpretation, learning, and modification.

Speaker 171 Bad variable naming, poor algorithms, kludges, hacks, bad managerial input all create bad, unman maintainable code in any language.

Speaker 174 COBOL is not simple in any real-world application.

Speaker 54 So, huh?

Speaker 19 He showed you. Then.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he showed me. He's really accurate, too, since when I had a company called California Software, I actually sold COBOL.

Speaker 3 Enable post-graduate school COBOL you sell a couple of copies and stuff.

Speaker 80 You didn't code in it.

Speaker 3 He says I didn't, the way he put it,

Speaker 3 I was oblivious to the whole thing.

Speaker 3 I used to sell the product. That's the way I see it.
As far as I'm concerned, that gives me some credibility.

Speaker 33 Okay.

Speaker 3 And then he says Java, and he uses Java as the example. That's where his Java script, which is not even really a language.

Speaker 50 That's where his argument fell apart.

Speaker 28 I agree.

Speaker 155 But then,

Speaker 2 interestingly, very good article in dev.tube, which is a nerd website, about the dates about May 20, 1875.

Speaker 3 I think, did I send you that? No,

Speaker 20 I sent it to you.

Speaker 3 Oh, you sent it me. Somebody sent it to you.
You sent it to me, and I sent it to you. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 It turns out that's a big hoax.

Speaker 123 Yeah, it's a hoax.

Speaker 3 That's an excellent article. I think I posted it on Twitter.
If anyone follows my Twitter account, The Real Dvorak, you'll find a link to it.

Speaker 19 Yeah, so I put it in the show notes.

Speaker 62 So that really, truly was a hack perpetuated by NPR and that bogus lady on the last show.

Speaker 3 Yep.

Speaker 19 Because she acted like she knew exactly what she was talking about.

Speaker 38 And this is a hoax.

Speaker 184 There's a very detailed article about this hoax.

Speaker 25 So it's just not true.

Speaker 95 It's not true that

Speaker 3 that was a fantastic article.

Speaker 48 That's a great article.

Speaker 75 Yes.

Speaker 39 Anyway, thank you very much, Darren O'Neill.

Speaker 98 Will deserved, I mean, deserved, let's put it that way.

Speaker 100 It's AI. So, okay.

Speaker 11 I mean, Darren definitely has that down.

Speaker 167 He and Scaramanga should start a company

Speaker 73 together.

Speaker 33 AI art.

Speaker 74 I'm just saying, it'd be a great idea.

Speaker 3 We have a lot of good AI.

Speaker 27 We do. Yeah, we do.

Speaker 3 Well, actually, those two are amongst the talk.

Speaker 28 There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 40 So that's the time and talent portion of the value we like to receive back.

Speaker 13 We always thank everybody who supports us financially, $50 and over on every single show.

Speaker 98 And at this point, we like to thank our executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 126 If you support us with $200 or more, you get the title of Associate Executive Producer.

Speaker 154 That can be used anywhere that these Hollywood-style credits are accepted, including imdb.com.

Speaker 209 And we'll read your note: $300 and above.

Speaker 19 We read your note, and you get an executive producer credit for this show.

Speaker 158 And we kick it off right here in Georgetown, Texas, with Tom Ania.

Speaker 11 And he sends us $500.

Speaker 48 And he says, what does he say here?

Speaker 44 He says, gentlemen, a dedouching and a little camel karma would be much appreciated.

Speaker 210 You've been dedouched.

Speaker 4 I think he means yak.

Speaker 94 And he says, if there are any fans of watercolor out there, check out www.lanaya.art, l-a-n-a-y-a.art.

Speaker 19 Thanks and regards, says Tom.

Speaker 21 Here's your yak karma.

Speaker 9 You've got

Speaker 68 karma.

Speaker 3 Now, I went and checked out the art.

Speaker 75 And how is it?

Speaker 3 This is his wife, I think, or his sister probably is.

Speaker 154 I think it is his wife, yeah.

Speaker 37 Excellent art.

Speaker 3 Good, a lot of originals for about $350, which is about what you want to pay for a watercolor.

Speaker 124 That's about,

Speaker 3 you know, $30 for prints, which if they're done well, might as well be a watercolor.

Speaker 33 I've seen these.

Speaker 117 She's actually offered to send us a print,

Speaker 108 which I think we said yes to because it's cool.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 yes, and she does good work.

Speaker 99 That's beautiful.

Speaker 2 And classic watercolor.

Speaker 73 She does commissions.

Speaker 3 Everyone should have at least two of her pieces.

Speaker 74 Everyone

Speaker 26 does decorations. She does commissions.

Speaker 3 Yeah, her commissions are mostly portraits and pictures of dogs.

Speaker 37 Babies and dogs.

Speaker 80 Babies and dogs.

Speaker 1 I want a watercolor of my dog.

Speaker 33 That's right.

Speaker 73 That's about right. That's right.

Speaker 46 Thank you very much, Tom.

Speaker 3 All right. Next on the list is Daniel Sean Gerald Morse in Spirit Lake, Iowa.
And he actually sent a note, and this is pre-Commodore off. Yeah, actually, if Tom wants a Commodoreship, let us know.

Speaker 3 We'll put you on the list as a laggard.

Speaker 3 But this guy came in earlier, but it came in late, whatever.

Speaker 3 He sent a care package with a bunch of beef jerky. Oh, oh,

Speaker 44 any beef jerky for me?

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're

Speaker 3 the rats ate yours. Okay.

Speaker 3 Thanks.

Speaker 3 You want some? I think so.

Speaker 6 I love beef jerky.

Speaker 3 He sent two packs, so maybe. Maybe.
He'd be glad to send you some straight up. Anyway, he's in Spirit Lake, Iowa, and he sent a handwritten note which says, please dedouch me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we can do that.

Speaker 210 You've been dedouched.

Speaker 3 And then he has an on-air note, just please dedouch me. And he's got his Commodore name as as Daniel Sean Gerald Morse.

Speaker 3 And then he has a bunch of off-air stuff, which I won't read because it's off-air.

Speaker 33 It's off-air, people.

Speaker 3 It involved beef jerky.

Speaker 3 It's off-air.

Speaker 75 Thanks.

Speaker 32 It's off-air.

Speaker 3 Thanks, Daniel.

Speaker 35 Commodore,

Speaker 11 semi-anonymous vegan.

Speaker 105 There we go.

Speaker 63 Mill Park, Victoria, Australia.

Speaker 75 Hello, Australia.

Speaker 46 This is a $1,000 donation, but it comes in as $319.

Speaker 117 I'm just kidding.

Speaker 126 ITM, Adam, and John.

Speaker 19 I would like to make this Commodore donation a switcheroo for my new human resource to be known as Commodore Spooky.

Speaker 75 All right, let me do that.

Speaker 57 So, this was 500 Australian dollar redues, I guess.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I guess so. So, he's not on the list, but why don't you put him on there?

Speaker 29 No, I think he is on the list.

Speaker 3 I think there's only one on the list.

Speaker 15 Well, let me check if that's him.

Speaker 75 Let me just see.

Speaker 3 Should be Morse on the list.

Speaker 18 Morse is on the list yeah well

Speaker 18 i'm sure that this was uh i'm gonna put combat or spooky in there because i'm sure that this was 500 australian

Speaker 35 and we we do want to 100

Speaker 3 yes it's like 60 cents wait until that stable coin comes out you guys have to pay up normal uh a dedouching please

Speaker 210 you've been deduced

Speaker 174 and a jingle from elmer fudd who may or may not still be the prime minister of us here in Oz come the 3rd of May.

Speaker 41 What does that mean?

Speaker 3 Well, the election, I have the bonus clip for the

Speaker 76 I have a bonus clip too, but if you put an Elmer Fudd in there, we can certainly play yours.

Speaker 3 Oz News, Albanese has been re-elected.

Speaker 193 Days after Canada's general election resulted in a left-leaning leader making an unexpected comeback because of fears about President Trump's policies, the same appears to have happened in Australia.

Speaker 193 Incumbent Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was returned to power with his Labour Party expanding its majority, despite opinion polls at the start of the year showing it trailing the centre-right Liberal National Party coalition.

Speaker 193 The opposition leader Peter Darton, who'd been compared to Donald Trump, lost the parliamentary seat he had held for more than two decades. A jubilant Mr.
Albanese addressed his cheering supporters.

Speaker 79 Be very, very quiet. I'm hunting weapons.

Speaker 33 Okay,

Speaker 141 I get to play my Albanese clip then.

Speaker 211 Australia's centre-left Labour Party has secured a second term in office in a landslide election victory.

Speaker 211 The country's incumbent Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, is now set to be in office for his three-year term. In his victory speech, he thanked voters for choosing, quote, optimism and determination.

Speaker 212 Today, the Australian people have voted for Australian values,

Speaker 212 For fairness, aspiration, and opportunity for all.

Speaker 3 Leader of the opposition call.

Speaker 24 We both are so sick.

Speaker 70 We have sick minds, people,

Speaker 29 but at least we think alike.

Speaker 3 Eli, the coffee guy's up on the list.

Speaker 65 No, yes, he is.

Speaker 57 You're right. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 Go for it. We're already there.

Speaker 111 So this is a very short list of

Speaker 3 crappy list today. But okay, Eli's here, and he came in from Bensonville, Illinois, 20504.
Thanks for the last show's breakdown of the Euro dollar euro dollar donation.

Speaker 73 Euro dollar donation.

Speaker 124 Yes.

Speaker 3 It tied in well with Tucker Carlson's interview with Catherine Fitz.

Speaker 156 So I watched that entire, I listened to that entire interview, and I've heard a lot of Catherine Fitz.

Speaker 40 And it always ends with this.

Speaker 41 I don't know who Mr.

Speaker 13 Globalization Globalization is.

Speaker 83 It's always the same.

Speaker 149 She's been doing, and not that she's full of crap, but she's been doing this same thing for a decade.

Speaker 3 I can't watch her.

Speaker 3 The interview is worth a listen, but there is a lot to unpack.

Speaker 3 As she put it, they are building a prison around us using the control mechanisms like digitized currency. To what end is to be determined, but she has some interesting theories.

Speaker 3 In my opinion, she's got nothing. At Gigawatt, we still taste good old-fashioned fiat USD, or we still take,

Speaker 96 dollars.

Speaker 3 So visit gigawattcoffee roasters.com and use code ITM20 for a quality bag of coffee at a good price. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.

Speaker 109 All right. Thank you, Eli.

Speaker 33 Brett Carrothers.

Speaker 72 Carrothers.

Speaker 19 Carrothers?

Speaker 3 Carruthers, Carruthers.

Speaker 104 Oh, that makes sense. Carruthers.

Speaker 65 Nanaimo, British Columbia.

Speaker 41 Canada. Hello, Canada.

Speaker 91 Hello, Canada.

Speaker 160 $200.37.

Speaker 40 This is a switcheroo donation from my smoking hot wife, Brittany.

Speaker 16 So let me make sure we put Brittany in there from Brett to Brittany.

Speaker 18 That's not a problem.

Speaker 52 Okay.

Speaker 117 Brett to Brittany. Consider it done.

Speaker 83 She celebrates her 37th birthday on Sunday, show day, and may the fourth be with you.

Speaker 76 She She is the glowing light in our life.

Speaker 11 Meadow, Hollandaise, and I are grateful for your shining down.

Speaker 97 Please deduce.

Speaker 210 You've been deduced. So

Speaker 174 they have a daughter named Meadow and a daughter named Hollandaise.

Speaker 26 That's an interesting choice of names.

Speaker 3 Hollandaise.

Speaker 18 Holland, yeah, Hollandaise.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 41 As a Vancouver Island.

Speaker 3 You need to be a saucy girl.

Speaker 104 Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 29 As a Vancouver Island arborist, life is grand in the trees.

Speaker 130 I love my wood chipper and I love what I do.

Speaker 38 Hey, you need to get this guy.

Speaker 130 You need to get him over to your place.

Speaker 3 Hey, it's already taken care of.

Speaker 19 Oh, you got the arborist coming?

Speaker 3 No, he came last Saturday, and the tree is back to

Speaker 3 the tree is a completely different looking tree.

Speaker 35 I don't know why you needed an arborist.

Speaker 3 You just needed a saw. No, no, but

Speaker 3 this... No, they had.
This tree is huge. The trunk of this oak tree is about a yard.

Speaker 85 Yeah, but you didn't chop down the tree.

Speaker 12 It was just a branch.

Speaker 3 No, no, no.

Speaker 3 That would be a disaster.

Speaker 3 The tree has been reformed. Oh, it's an arborist.
It's not a hatchet man.

Speaker 63 John, please consider this partial payment for your window clearance pruning.

Speaker 40 And just know I would never have rescheduled on you.

Speaker 152 And he goes on to say, for all your Central Island tree service needs, call Hollywood Tree Company, where we let the stars shine through.

Speaker 130 Check out www.hollywoodtreeco.ca and drop ITM Bonsai Bongino on the phone or email for 15% off all tree and hedge services.

Speaker 175 And he winds it up by requesting a biscuit for his birthday, Smoking Hot Wife.

Speaker 213 They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.

Speaker 4 Yeah, boom. There you go.

Speaker 3 Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado is up. She's at $200 and says jobs, Karma, for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results.

Speaker 3 Go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakers Inc.
with a K. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs, and writer of resumes.

Speaker 214 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Speaker 177 Let's vote for jobs.

Speaker 9 You jobs.

Speaker 8 Karma.

Speaker 4 Yeah, short list today.

Speaker 51 Tynan Rebich, Reebich, Tynan, Tynan Reebich, Tynan, Rebich, Phoenix, Arizona, $200 or less,

Speaker 117 Associate Executive Producer.

Speaker 40 This is my first donation since my dad hit me in the mouth in 221.

Speaker 114 So I believe a dedouching is in order.

Speaker 93 I think you're right.

Speaker 210 You've been dedouched.

Speaker 33 I am very blessed to have parents.

Speaker 152 The ones that I have, I couldn't have asked for better.

Speaker 85 Happy 49th birthday.

Speaker 19 Mom and dad, please put them on the birthday list.

Speaker 169 Sir Ross the Boss, May 6th, and Molly Reebitch, May 28th.

Speaker 109 And this is from Tynan.

Speaker 95 That it it stays in the family a family that no agendas together stays together.

Speaker 47 It's a fact.

Speaker 89 Look it up on Wikipedia.

Speaker 98 And with that, we conclude our executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 54 Thank you all so much for your support.

Speaker 154 And you take these credits, which are good for your lifetime, and right ahead, go put them on your resume, your

Speaker 74 LinkedIn profile with all the rest of the spam out there.

Speaker 169 Put it in your social media, on your Blue Cry.

Speaker 95 And of course, you can add it to imdb.com if you already have one.

Speaker 11 If you don't, you can open one up.

Speaker 22 They are recognized as official credits.

Speaker 34 And thank you for supporting the best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 13 And we will be thanking the rest of our donors $50 and above.

Speaker 11 And remember, we love those sustaining donations.

Speaker 46 Go to noagendadonations.com, set up a recurring donation, any frequency, any amount, noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 159 And thank you again to the executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 64 My formula is this:

Speaker 215 we go out, we hit people in the mouth.

Speaker 80 So

Speaker 27 as we were talking earlier, it's obvious that

Speaker 117 the machine, the machine, which is mainly media and all the money that comes in from pharmaceutical and big food and everybody, they're going to start really hitting hard at Trump.

Speaker 95 I think we're going to see 100 days of craziness.

Speaker 2 And I think you're, yeah, they have to.

Speaker 117 Yes.

Speaker 3 We're starting to see the beginning of it with Hotez.

Speaker 124 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Well, there's also, and I always thought this was a mistake on the president's part, but now they're going after World Liberty Financial.

Speaker 41 World Liberty Financial.

Speaker 62 Both ABC and CBS did big pieces on them because this is clear corruption.

Speaker 192 When Donald Trump was campaigning for re-election, he was also campaigning for cryptocurrency.

Speaker 163 Big news: the World Liberty Financial token sale is now live. Crypto is the future.

Speaker 192 World Liberty Financial is a digital currency platform that says it's inspired by President Trump. But it's more than inspired.
A company affiliated with the Trump family owns a 60% stake.

Speaker 216 We believe that

Speaker 216 his crypto assets are as much as $2.9 billion.

Speaker 192 Virginia Cantor has overseen ethics rules as a senior government lawyer in both Democratic and Republican administrations. President Trump has sold stakes.

Speaker 192 He sold gold sneakers, Bibles. How is this any different?

Speaker 216 At least those had some intrinsic value. This is like a perfect vehicle to funnel money to him and his family to enrich them.

Speaker 102 So, World Liberty Financial, and I haven't done a deep dive on them,

Speaker 174 but what it appears, and there's two different things.

Speaker 95 There's the meme coin,

Speaker 174 and then there's World Liberty Financial.

Speaker 107 I don't even know if the two are connected.

Speaker 128 The meme coin is just dumb.

Speaker 13 That was the mistake.

Speaker 30 He never should have done a Melania meme coin.

Speaker 18 I don't know if he was even involved in it, but that was annoying.

Speaker 139 But this World Liberty Financial, it will be a lending, as I understand it.

Speaker 71 You will be able to borrow money at very competitive rates, and you'll have different types of collateral, which could be Bitcoin, stablecoin, who knows what, Dogecoin, who knows what it is.

Speaker 174 I'll dive into that deeper, but this is the attack vector on the president.

Speaker 154 And honestly, I think it's rightly so.

Speaker 48 This was a huge, dumb move.

Speaker 192 World Liberty says it's raised more than $550 million.

Speaker 192 And this week, it announced it received a new $2 billion investment from an Abu Dhabi company. How much the Trump family stands to benefit is unknown.

Speaker 192 Another investor is Justin Sun, the eccentric Chinese billionaire, perhaps best known for buying.

Speaker 112 It's yours. Congratulations.

Speaker 197 Thank you very much indeed.

Speaker 192 And then eating a $6.2 million banana duct taped to a wall.

Speaker 192 Back in 2023, President Biden's SEC charged Sun with securities fraud. After Trump's re-election, Sun announced a $75 million investment in World Liberty Financial.

Speaker 192 And just five weeks later, federal prosecutors asked the judge to pause the Sun investigation, citing public interest.

Speaker 192 A CBS News analysis shows that the government has dropped a dozen cases against crypto firms since January. Sun is one of more than 85,000 investors in World Liberty so far.

Speaker 192 Most are unnamed and unknown.

Speaker 19 Unnamed, unknown.

Speaker 169 They're funneling money to the president for all kinds of favors.

Speaker 48 Although what they don't really mention here is that these were really dumb, bogus lawsuits.

Speaker 108 And the rules changed, so that's why the lawsuits were dropped.

Speaker 25 Here's the final clip

Speaker 117 from CBS.

Speaker 137 We've got the president of the United States's firstborn, Donald Trump Jr.

Speaker 192 At a crypto industry conference in Washington in March, the founders of World Liberty Financial promoted the company, along with the president's side.

Speaker 217 I'm just super excited about what this can mean.

Speaker 217 This guy is an attack vector for the future of banking, for the future of the financial systems.

Speaker 202 Hold on.

Speaker 3 Back it up and start him again and start to think:

Speaker 3 who does he sound like?

Speaker 3 He sounds like Zuckerberg.

Speaker 93 Ooh.

Speaker 217 For the future of banking, for the future.

Speaker 73 Wait, let me me back him up a little more.

Speaker 145 Future of the financial.

Speaker 217 There we go. I'm just super excited about what this can mean

Speaker 130 completely.

Speaker 179 He's hanging out in Silicon Valley too much.

Speaker 16 He's in the milieu.

Speaker 3 There's something going on with the milieu because that is a very distinctive sound.

Speaker 123 Completely agree.

Speaker 217 I'm just super excited about what this can mean for the future of banking, for the future of the financial systems.

Speaker 192 CBS News tried to approach the World Liberty team, but they have declined our multiple requests for an interview.

Speaker 192 World Liberty did not respond to questions about the potential profits for the Trump family. In a statement, they said the Abu Dhabi company's investment sets a historic precedent.

Speaker 192 The SEC, Justin Sun, and the Trump organization did not respond to our questions. And the White House said, report on something people actually care about.

Speaker 30 So ABC had pretty much the same report, and I'll only play the clip that was relevant.

Speaker 56 By the way, Elizabeth Warren is heading up a lot of this.

Speaker 75 You know, Elizabeth Warren, she,

Speaker 24 I think she

Speaker 109 probably represents old school banks, you know, maybe City of London.

Speaker 179 I don't know.

Speaker 133 She's, she is, she's not just outraged because she's outraged.

Speaker 179 She has big financial backers.

Speaker 18 Liz is in all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 100 And we saw that with the over the over the

Speaker 41 over-the-counter hearing aids and all she's just, if anyone is quote-unquote corrupt, I'd pin that on her.

Speaker 18 But here's the kicker from ABC.

Speaker 180 The White House telling ABC News in a statement in part, President Trump's assets are in a trust managed by his children, and there are no conflicts of interest.

Speaker 180 President Trump campaigned on being a champion for the crypto community, and he has taken significant steps to do that.

Speaker 180 World Liberty Financial has also announced plans to launch a stablecoin, a cryptocurrency pegged to the U.S.

Speaker 3 dollar.

Speaker 110 The company has reportedly sold $2 billion worth, with a Trump family entity receiving a 75% cut of every sale.

Speaker 110 And at the same time, Trump's White House pushed for new policies that directly impact stablecoins.

Speaker 188 I've also called on Congress to pass landmark legislation creating simple, common sense rules for stablecoins.

Speaker 180 If Congress does what Trump wants, it could help further legitimize cryptocurrency and, he says, expand the dominance of the U.S.

Speaker 96 dollar.

Speaker 180 Just this week, at a conference in Dubai attended by Eric Trump, World Liberty Financial announced a $2 billion investment from the United Arab Emirates to use the company's stablecoin.

Speaker 203 Binance Binance and the foreign investment firm are going to use Donald Trump's stablecoin to finance their transaction, essentially giving Trump a cut of that $2 billion deal.

Speaker 203 Boy, looks like corruption, smells like corruption.

Speaker 63 Stablecoin, baby, it's the future.

Speaker 218 It's coming. It's coming.

Speaker 179 Then there's the exit strategy that President Trump set up for himself.

Speaker 3 Stable growth. If it was all in a blind trust, he didn't set up anything.

Speaker 3 It's Donald Jr. doing all the hard lifting.

Speaker 16 Do you mean Donald Zuckerberg Jr.?

Speaker 80 Donald Zuckerberg.

Speaker 132 And for Elizabeth Warren to jump in, oh, looks and smells like corruption.

Speaker 33 Okay.

Speaker 3 Where did all of her wealth come from out of the blue?

Speaker 131 Yeah, magic?

Speaker 133 Magic?

Speaker 3 Well, I question the Trump makes makes 75%.

Speaker 2 Oh, no, that's not.

Speaker 3 How does that even work? It wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. It's idiotic.

Speaker 3 But maybe what's probably, there's probably some, I would guess that there would be a percentage of some transaction fee of 0.75. If somebody saw 0.75 is 75%.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 36 I'm with you.

Speaker 156 That's bullcrap.

Speaker 3 So that's just poor reporting.

Speaker 27 But it's a beautiful system.

Speaker 47 You buy treasuries, you get your 4%,

Speaker 40 and then you make stablecoin, stablecoin, and you get a transaction fee on top of it.

Speaker 7 What are we doing this podcast for?

Speaker 29 We should be buying treasuries, making stablecoins.

Speaker 3 Weren't you involved in some Dutch coin of some sort some years back?

Speaker 35 Oh, yeah, that was a shitcoin.

Speaker 131 You know what?

Speaker 37 I got lucky.

Speaker 98 God protected me.

Speaker 18 That was just one of those ICO scams.

Speaker 3 It was a scam?

Speaker 39 Well, I mean, it was an initial coin offering, which people like Snoop Dogg and Kim Kardashian, they've had to pay millions of dollars in fines.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it could have happened to you. Yes, yes.

Speaker 6 Why didn't it?

Speaker 63 Because

Speaker 18 those guys couldn't get their crap together and they didn't figure it out in time.

Speaker 3 You couldn't get the scam off the ground. You

Speaker 3 saved your baby.

Speaker 41 Yes, big time.

Speaker 29 I'm thankful.

Speaker 183 Thankful.

Speaker 183 Thank you, Jesus.

Speaker 41 You saved me.

Speaker 51 Yes.

Speaker 39 It would have been a nightmare because I was the Kim Kardashian of this coin.

Speaker 42 Oh, there's an ISO for you.

Speaker 3 I was a Kim Kardashian without the big butt.

Speaker 84 Or the money.

Speaker 3 Or the money, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 We're just let's go to TDS.

Speaker 3 Big thing at Trenta de Oragua. I think they got,

Speaker 3 I think they're on to something here.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 3 It's not a big deal, but it's a big enough deal that I think they can make some inroads and go after Trump with this. This is a PBS report on TDA, the guys they've locked up.

Speaker 112 In March, in order to speedily deport 238 Venezuelan men under an 18th century law, President Trump declared

Speaker 85 under an 18th century law, unlike our 18th century constitution, which you always tout your First Amendment.

Speaker 112 238 Venezuelan men under an 18th century law, President Trump declared many of them to be alien enemies.

Speaker 112 He claimed they were members of a transnational criminal organization called Trendearagua, which, he said, was conducting irregular warfare and undertaking hostile actions against the United States.

Speaker 112 But a New York Times investigation couldn't find any evidence linking many of the men to that gang.

Speaker 112 Allie Rogan spoke with Julie Turkowitz, the Times Andes bureau chief based in Bogota, Colombia, and the lead reporter on that investigation.

Speaker 208 Thank you so much for joining us. In your investigation, for how many of these 238 men did you find connections to Trende Aragua, and how did you go about making those determinations?

Speaker 4 We

Speaker 205 spent a couple of weeks doing record searches in the US, in Venezuela,

Speaker 205 Peru, Ecuador, Chile, Colombia,

Speaker 205 and what we found is that of the 238 individuals sent on March 15th to a prison in El Salvador, 32 of them appear to have some kind of serious criminal record.

Speaker 205 An even smaller number, just a handful, appear to have some possible

Speaker 205 connection to this gang, Trender Aragua. And this is reporting to the best of our abilities, barring any real information from the Trump administration.

Speaker 26 Interesting.

Speaker 40 First of all, if you're in the country illegally, you're a criminal.

Speaker 84 I was hearing on

Speaker 174 NPR the other day that

Speaker 149 they're using using Palantir to find these people.

Speaker 32 Which

Speaker 19 by itself is concerning because, yeah, they probably screw it up because it's AI.

Speaker 179 Let's use Palantir.

Speaker 3 Well, you have to assume there's a screw-up

Speaker 3 somehow, and that's what they're trying to track down. And I think they got one.

Speaker 3 But it's like this dubious nature of this reporting, which is, well,

Speaker 3 these are undocumented coming in. They're undocumented.

Speaker 3 Does Venezuela have a laundry list and they can go right up to him? Hey, hey, Maduro, can you give us the list of the Trentier Guagra guys so we can check their names against the names we have?

Speaker 73 This is bull crap.

Speaker 3 But okay, but let's assume that

Speaker 123 they spent a whole two weeks.

Speaker 3 I mean, it'll take you two weeks to get down there to find the right person to talk to.

Speaker 123 But okay, let's go on.

Speaker 208 You also reported on how the administration has been making these determinations, what criteria they're using. Tell us about that.

Speaker 205 Some of the documents that have come out in court filings in recent weeks indicate that the trump administration is using a rubric to uh essentially grade individuals who law enforcement believes might be trenderagua when the person gets to eight whole points they become a quote uh validated member of trenderagua and thus are um it's a meritocracy baby it's a merit-based system Eight points, you're out.

Speaker 205 Eligible to be deported under the Trump administration's qualifications as an alien enemy.

Speaker 205 And so, four points, according to this rubric, are given for someone who has suspicious tattoos, tattoos of the Trump administration, and that law enforcement officials believe are connected to Trendieragua.

Speaker 205 Another four points are given out for style of dress that law enforcement officials believe are Trendieragua.

Speaker 205 And experts we spoke to said, hey, like these specifications don't match with what we know about this group. The example being tattoos specifically, obviously,

Speaker 205 are worth sort of half of the points that make someone a quote validated member of Trinidad.

Speaker 205 But experts in Venezuela tell

Speaker 205 my colleague in Venezuela that, no, in fact, this group doesn't use tattoos as a marker of membership.

Speaker 34 This term rubric is interesting because you said it's a checklist, but that's not the definition of rubric.

Speaker 3 No, but she's using it, the way I understand it, she's using it as meaning checklist.

Speaker 3 But read us the definition, then I have a comment about that last clip.

Speaker 94 Well, the definition has nothing to do with

Speaker 58 checklists, but there's a company called Rubrik,

Speaker 129 and they do data analysis,

Speaker 3 cloud data management so i was just wondering if maybe they're using the system rubric because no rubric should look up their word rubric okay rubric definition here we go do you want merriam-webster or the collins

Speaker 2 merriam-webster

Speaker 29 an authoritative rule

Speaker 29 um

Speaker 154 a title of a statute, that would be it,

Speaker 57 or an explan explanatory or introductory commentary.

Speaker 31 She's really meets a checklist.

Speaker 109 She just likes saying Chile and Venezuela.

Speaker 75 That's what she likes.

Speaker 73 And rubric.

Speaker 37 And rubric.

Speaker 3 Now, she mentions that

Speaker 33 the whole

Speaker 3 kind of commentary at this point drifts off into these tattoos.

Speaker 156 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And at not one point in this entire, I think it's a four-part clip,

Speaker 3 do they mention that MS-13 at all? MS-13 was part of this whole thing.

Speaker 3 It was TDS plus MS-13 that were getting shipped off.

Speaker 3 And MS-13 is solely regarded as you always have tattoos. It's part of the scheme.

Speaker 3 Right. But they won't even mention MS-13 in this entire report.
And they'll just go on and on about the tattoos not being part of the Trenta de Aragre, what I can never pronounce it correctly.

Speaker 24 Trent de Aragua.

Speaker 3 They cannot bring themselves to bring in the other aspect of

Speaker 3 this deportation, which is the MS-13 half of it.

Speaker 29 Are you telling me that this PBS report is slanted and perhaps

Speaker 33 untrue?

Speaker 3 I think it's slanted for sure, and probably untrue in some sense.

Speaker 208 One of the deported men whose family you spoke to is Arturo Suarez Trejo. Can you tell me about him and his family?

Speaker 205 He had been living in Chile and

Speaker 205 was making a living working, actually installing refrigerators, but his real passion was music. He meets his wife, another Venezuelan, in Chile, and she becomes pregnant.

Speaker 205 And he eventually decides, you know what, I really want to make some more money for my family.

Speaker 19 So I'm going to go have the kid in America so I can get my papers.

Speaker 205 And he heads north. He gets into the United States.

Speaker 3 Hey, actually, he left. She stayed.

Speaker 103 Oh.

Speaker 4 Oh.

Speaker 18 But he heads north.

Speaker 54 Oh.

Speaker 205 And she becomes pregnant. And he eventually decides, you know what, I really want to make some more money for my family, and he heads north.

Speaker 171 Sounds like she's saying she.

Speaker 33 She's saying he? It sounds like she.

Speaker 3 As far as I can,

Speaker 3 well, play it again. I thought it was he heads north because he

Speaker 3 was in the country, not her.

Speaker 205 Meets his wife, another Venezuelan in Chile, and she becomes pregnant. And he eventually decides, you know what, I really want to make some more money for my family.
And he heads north.

Speaker 205 He gets into the United States. He enters with this sort of Biden-era application that allows people to sort of appear at the border and ask for permission to enter.

Speaker 205 He enters the country, is working in North Carolina, and

Speaker 205 one day he's in North Carolina filming a music video when Ice shows up. He calls his wife in Chile and he says, you know, honey, I'm coming home.
And that is when he suddenly disappeared.

Speaker 205 And his wife stopped hearing from him until she

Speaker 205 types into Google, Venezuelans deported, and she sees him in a video, shaved, cuffed, and bent over in this Salvadoran prison.

Speaker 205 Arturo Suarez is one of the individuals who does not appear to have a criminal record or a connection to Trandaragua.

Speaker 153 Other than that he came in illegally.

Speaker 35 They make it sound like, oh, come on.

Speaker 29 No,

Speaker 3 no, he came in illegally, illegally, but he used that stupid system that Biden had set up.

Speaker 6 The app?

Speaker 73 The app.

Speaker 3 So he came in legally through the channels that they allowed him to come in legally, and then he got railroaded and got shipped off, supposedly.

Speaker 3 Although I don't know how she recognized him, bent over with his head shaved, but somehow she recognized him, which I think that's part of bogus reporting.

Speaker 3 And now it turns out he's in the jail, but there's no proof of this that I can tell

Speaker 3 the story may be manufactured from scratch.

Speaker 131 You know,

Speaker 13 the media has been flooded with stories like this.

Speaker 46 You know, poor guy separates from my favorite is

Speaker 116 a four-year-old with girl with cancer

Speaker 33 deported her.

Speaker 6 You know, more Trump

Speaker 3 deporting children story is bogus as hell because those kids were brought by their mom was deported and she wanted to bring the kid.

Speaker 3 And they're suggesting leaving the kid in the United States because it's it's an American citizen

Speaker 3 you know okay well the kid's always going to be an American citizen she can come back or whenever she feels like it when she's older maybe and can live on her own WC

Speaker 11 is wrong because President Trump should have immediately opened up Walter Reed or Mayo and put the kid in the cancer ward you know that's what he should be doing

Speaker 3 because you know Trump hates children he just wants children with cancer to die that's you're right in your assertion uh five ten minutes ago about they're gonna this is going to be amped up.

Speaker 3 I don't know about these stories being even remotely accurate. They're definitely slanted.
And whether this guy even exists, this guy

Speaker 3 whose wife was pregnant in Chile, why didn't she come with him and have the baby here, which would be the smart money, seems to me. Yep.

Speaker 3 Especially since he went through the trouble and they didn't want to, you know, they didn't want a bunch of single males coming in. They like the idea of a family.

Speaker 3 So you bring her, it makes more sense.

Speaker 100 The whole thing is

Speaker 128 his passion was music, John.

Speaker 76 It's so artsy.

Speaker 3 And then they throw the artsy angle in. There's a refrigerator installer whose passion is music.

Speaker 22 It's like a Dire Straits video.

Speaker 57 Reference lost on you.

Speaker 3 I'm sorry. Yeah, it's

Speaker 3 money for nothing.

Speaker 80 Oh, he's got it.

Speaker 100 He's got it.

Speaker 48 Yes.

Speaker 80 All right. He's got it.

Speaker 208 You and your colleagues also reported on how Salvadoran President Naeb Bukele

Speaker 208 has wanted more proof that these deported men are actually members of Teren de Aragua.

Speaker 208 Where does that stand and might that impact this arrangement where he's going to house them in this prison for one year? He says that is negotiable moving forward.

Speaker 205 As far as what's going to happen next for these men, it's really unclear.

Speaker 205 Nayibukele, the president of El Salvador, has said that this is at least a one-year term for these individuals.

Speaker 205 And

Speaker 205 he has called that sentence renewable. And we have also seen the U.S.

Speaker 205 Department of Homeland Security Secretary, Christine Noam, come out and say that she believes that these individuals should be in prison in El Salvador for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 205 That is being contested in court, but that case is still pending. That decision by Judge Boesberg in Washington, D.C.
is still pending.

Speaker 120 Julie Turkish.

Speaker 208 Thank you so much.

Speaker 205 Thank you.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 106 Yeah. They're going to attack him on everything.
It's going to be non-stop, non-stop, non-stop.

Speaker 131 Anything they can do.

Speaker 174 You know, we had a dinner Friday night, and I was

Speaker 16 sitting next to a woman, and I know her husband, he wasn't there.

Speaker 63 I said, what is your husband?

Speaker 46 She said, he's in the Dominican Republic buying tobacco.

Speaker 33 I said, what?

Speaker 11 And she goes through this whole thing about

Speaker 27 he, you know, he's a cigar guy and he has.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Dominican Republican makes decent cigar tobacco.

Speaker 131 Yeah, and you know, it's one-third fermented, and he's got this Cuban roller, and she's from Havana.

Speaker 65 I said, and she's from Havana,

Speaker 106 Havana, she's from Havana, and um, and she said, you know,

Speaker 41 uh, we were talking, she was in Florida, I said, Oh, Elian Gonzalez, she says, Oh, I remember that.

Speaker 75 So you should listen to our show because that's how we roll.

Speaker 41 We don't roll on our thighs, we roll with Elian Gonzalez references.

Speaker 33 Anyway,

Speaker 54 yeah she said what was that all about said well it was the the first version of trender agua that's when uh who was president then clinton wasn't it clinton

Speaker 27 was it was that ilian

Speaker 42 must have been clinton yeah

Speaker 184 it was definitely a scandal and let's go to uh one of the most press-free countries in the world uh the republic of deutschland and uh what they're doing in with politics it's quite an interesting little affair that's happening now.

Speaker 78 The party reacted to today's decision, saying it is a serious blow to German democracy, pointing to the polls showing the AFT as the strongest force.

Speaker 78 The AFD stated that it will continue to defend itself legally against defamation. The decision follows a three-year review of AFT actions, statements, and extremist links.

Speaker 78 The AFT came second in February's general elections ahead of the incoming junior coalition partner, the SP.

Speaker 78 Parts of the AFT, like its youth ring, were already classified this work.

Speaker 78 Parliament could theoretically ask for the party to be dissolved, but this is considered highly unlikely.

Speaker 12 So we don't like that you're popular, so we're just gonna have our security services call you domestic terrorists.

Speaker 174 And we won't dissolve you, but everyone's gonna stay away.

Speaker 94 And you, by the way, your youth, clearly Jugend.

Speaker 154 Ave de Jugend, well, you already classified you as little terrorists.

Speaker 173 And

Speaker 75 our Secretary of State Rubio had some strong words for this.

Speaker 97 U.S.

Speaker 219 Secretary of State Marco Rubio called Germany a tyranny in disguise after its intelligence service labeled the far-right alternative for Germany party as right-wing extremist.

Speaker 219 Rubio's comments made on the social media platform X drew strong backlash from Germany's Foreign Office.

Speaker 219 They replied by saying the decision was a result of a thorough and independent investigation, and that Germany has learned from its history that right-wing extremism needs to be stopped.

Speaker 219 The label now applied to the AFD will allow authorities to monitor the organization more closely. Meanwhile, critics, including AFD leaders and their U.S.

Speaker 219 supporters, say the move is politically motivated.

Speaker 97 Do you think?

Speaker 105 It's unbelievable what's happening in Germany.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's nothing like a right-wing organization run by a lesbian.

Speaker 60 L2, a libertarian lesbian.

Speaker 3 A libertarian lesbian seems unlikely.

Speaker 119 Hey, you know, no sooner have we spoken about the Harvard

Speaker 109 endowment

Speaker 40 than President Trump says, you know,

Speaker 36 I think we're going to remove the tax-exempt status from

Speaker 3 the endowment. Yeah, I discussed this in the newsletter a little bit.

Speaker 61 Yeah, I missed the newsletter, unfortunately.

Speaker 108 What did you say?

Speaker 3 I think a lot of this is a trap.

Speaker 3 Okay. And

Speaker 3 it's a trap to get Harvard, because Harvard's designed to sue back and they're making a big fuss and it's bringing it to light. What it's doing is bringing to light.

Speaker 3 The government is giving private institutions billions and billions of dollars when they have billions of dollars in their coffers already. And then it turns out they're treated like churches.

Speaker 73 Yep.

Speaker 3 So they have tax-free everything. They can have this huge amount of land.
They don't have to pay tax. They don't have to pay property tax.
They don't have to pay income tax. They have to pay nothing.

Speaker 3 And this is being brought to light. And the more that these colleges push back on it, the more it brings into the public eye, which is something I didn't really know how bad it was.

Speaker 3 It brings into the public eye, like, wait a minute.

Speaker 41 Yeah.

Speaker 3 This is not, this isn't right. And when you

Speaker 3 guys are screwing themselves.

Speaker 102 And when you donate to the endowment,

Speaker 53 it's a tax deduction.

Speaker 132 It's like you get it on the way in and on the way out.

Speaker 3 It's no good.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 3 These guys are charging students hundreds of thousands of dollars to go get an education.

Speaker 3 And meanwhile, they're tax-free and they're getting free government money and they're living the life of Riley.

Speaker 37 No.

Speaker 51 The life of Riley?

Speaker 29 I've never heard that.

Speaker 3 I'm sorry I used that term. That gated me.

Speaker 71 Please do explain the life of Riley.

Speaker 156 This is a good one.

Speaker 3 The life of Riley was a phrase that was used. My dad used to use it too.

Speaker 3 And it really was based on a TV sitcom. And I think it was a radio show before there was a sitcom.
So it probably goes back to the 30s or 40s. And it was a show called The Life of Riley.

Speaker 4 Huh.

Speaker 3 And you can look up The Life of Riley and you'll find somewhere else.

Speaker 76 This should probably be a television watching tip.

Speaker 52 The Life of Riley.

Speaker 16 I've never heard of this and you've never, never used this.

Speaker 3 No, it's an old, one of those phrases that your parents used.

Speaker 33 Oh, like, like fiddlesticks?

Speaker 3 Because it's like you're living the life of Riley. Meaning you're doing nothing.

Speaker 27 So was Riley living it up?

Speaker 3 No, it was just a lazy guy. It was like a lazy guy who was not.

Speaker 52 He was a gay.

Speaker 27 Here we go.

Speaker 130 William Bendix in.

Speaker 3 Yes, William Bendix.

Speaker 51 The life of Riley.

Speaker 40 It's, John, it's from the 50s.

Speaker 179 Nice, nice.

Speaker 43 And it complete episodes on YouTube.

Speaker 57 Well, I'm going to have to watch that now.

Speaker 37 The life of Riley.

Speaker 6 I'm excited. The life of Riley.
Yeah.

Speaker 33 I'm excited.

Speaker 188 Some of the people who are in that tax scam probably are as old as the life of Riley.

Speaker 3 So I think this is a setup. I think Trump and they fell right into the trap instead of just shutting up.

Speaker 141 Beautiful.

Speaker 3 Putting the clamps down on the Jewish thing.

Speaker 3 Saying we're going to not let that happen anymore.

Speaker 33 But but no they had to be big shots you had to be a big shot didn't you all right victor david hansen we got the five minute warning

Speaker 73 okay

Speaker 3 uh here's victor david hansen is it talking about victor davis hansen actually davis yeah i always say david i don't know why yeah but i do uh but victor v d v

Speaker 3 he has a good commentary about the democrats and i don't know why but it leads right into our uh donations if you look at the Democratic Party and the left in general, they have boxed themselves in.

Speaker 215 On the one hand, they have no institutional power, no ability to pass legislation, losing the House and the Senate, no presidency, White House, no executive orders.

Speaker 215 Ultimately, all of the Cherry Pook district and circuit judges will be overturned by a largely conservative Supreme Court. In lieu of actual power, then you look at what is the alternative.

Speaker 215 Maybe the alternative is a 1994 Newt Ginrich contract with America, an alternate agenda. Yes, we can do better on the border than you can.
Yes, we have a better foreign policy with Iran.

Speaker 215 There's nothing. There's no shadow government.
There's not a young Bill Clinton ascendant. There's no young Barack.
There's nobody. There's no leaders.
There's no agenda.

Speaker 33 I'm going to show my school by donate to no agenda.

Speaker 4 Imagine all the people who can do nothing. Oh, yeah, that'd be fine.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 on no agenda

Speaker 4 in the morning.

Speaker 46 I couldn't make it any slicker than that.

Speaker 129 That's beautiful.

Speaker 13 And it is time now to thank our donors $50 and above.

Speaker 169 We do have John's tip of the day coming up, some dynamite end of show mixes, a quick overview of the meetups, and some title changes on a Commodore to a Commodore or two.

Speaker 41 John, take it away.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we got a few people to thank, including Baron Ladikin, who's back from Houston, Texas. And he came in with 100, and John Robinet is 100.
Commodore 128

Speaker 3 came in with 8502.

Speaker 3 Commodore 128 chip, I hope, didn't it? Is Commodore 128?

Speaker 109 8502.

Speaker 89 No, it's the Commodore. You had

Speaker 13 the Commodore VIC-20, the Commodore 64, and the Commodore 128.

Speaker 174 And I think it did have the 8502 chip.

Speaker 3 No, no, there's no such thing as an 8502 chip.

Speaker 31 Are you sure?

Speaker 3 Yeah, pretty sure no i'm not pretty sure i'm sure 8502 chip let's take a look wasn't that the zx80 yeah the moss technology 8502 8-bit microprocessor yes there was an 8502 and i was unaware of it and it passed me by while i was writing about these things back in the day and it wasn't a 6502 you were writing you were writing about windows telecommunication so you're forgiven i mean it can happen you were doing other important stuff instant bestsellers Well, I think 8502 is a great donation number then.

Speaker 41 I think so, too.

Speaker 3 It's better than 6502.

Speaker 75 It sure is.

Speaker 3 Especially on a slowed age. Kevin McLaughlin's next.
He's in the Concord, North Carolina. He came in with a better donation of 8008, which is a classic.

Speaker 124 Boobs.

Speaker 3 He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America, and lover of boobs.

Speaker 37 He is a lover, not a fighter.

Speaker 3 He also says Laos Deo, which translates to praise be to God.

Speaker 156 Laos Deo.

Speaker 3 Not sure why he put that in there.

Speaker 48 Well, why not?

Speaker 33 Praise God.

Speaker 3 Because he's been very consistent of not putting extra wordage.

Speaker 75 Well, he has some.

Speaker 3 Sir Michael and Hunlock Creek, Pennsylvania, 73.44.

Speaker 2 Happy Swazzelnuff.

Speaker 29 Yay, 69.69, dudes.

Speaker 3 Jaris Corporation, 69.69.

Speaker 3 Chris Engler, 66.88.

Speaker 3 Leo

Speaker 73 Bugo.

Speaker 3 Bugo, Bugo, B-U-G-O, 5825. And he needs some jobs, Carmen.
We're going to give you that at the end.

Speaker 59 Michael

Speaker 3 Formanic. Formanik.
Formanik, I think, I bet you. 57.19.

Speaker 3 And he says, I hope this donation finds you well.

Speaker 22 That's a proper use of the term.

Speaker 156 Of the form.

Speaker 124 Yes.

Speaker 3 Yes, thank you. Dame Rita, our buddy in Sparks, Nevada, 55.25.
Brian Furley, 55.10. Patrick Cobel.
Hey, there he is. He's in Fairview, Tennessee.

Speaker 111 He's 55.10.

Speaker 152 He's the Duke, he says.

Speaker 62 Meetup shout-out heading to Amsterdam.

Speaker 45 Getting to hang out with Rob and other lowland producers.

Speaker 94 Be there at B-Square.

Speaker 97 Royal visit.

Speaker 63 Ultra special amygdala checkup in Leiden, the Netherlands, Wednesday, May 14th at 7:33 p.m.

Speaker 51 It's going to be a hootinany.

Speaker 62 When Patrick shows up,

Speaker 11 drinks for everybody.

Speaker 3 Troy Funderbuck in

Speaker 3 Burke in Missoula, Montana, 55. Nick Stark in Grants Pass, Oregon, 5427.
He's got a birthday call out for himself.

Speaker 33 Yes.

Speaker 3 Kyle Maxwell in Fort Lauderdale, 54.25.

Speaker 3 Paolo Moore in Fort Washington, Maryland, 54.25. This is a the fabulous 5425 donation.
We got two people

Speaker 3 that came with May the 4th Be With You.

Speaker 3 So, this is the kind of promotions that really

Speaker 2 make my day.

Speaker 101 Yeah, good job.

Speaker 59 Allison

Speaker 33 Olzovsky.

Speaker 98 It should be Oslovsky, probably.

Speaker 49 It's probably a mist typo.

Speaker 3 Well, that came right off the spreadsheet.

Speaker 4 That's the way she did it.

Speaker 3 In Powellsbo, Washington. Everyone should visit there if they're ever in the neighborhood.

Speaker 3 5328.

Speaker 3 Newsletter Guilt Trip Donation.

Speaker 32 Good.

Speaker 3 David Kaye, say somebody.

Speaker 3 David Keys in Riverside, California, 5328. John Bossano in Madison, Alabama, 52.72.
Eric Scholes in Dallas, Texas, also 52.72.

Speaker 33 He needs jobs karma.

Speaker 109 I'll add it for him.

Speaker 33 We'll put that at the end.

Speaker 3 Also, Spencer Jaffe in Rattancho Palazzo Verde's California. He also needs jobs, Carmen, 5272.

Speaker 3 Lydia Terry in Rochester, New Hampshire, 5125, a blank.

Speaker 3 No name, no nothing.

Speaker 3 5071.

Speaker 3 I don't know how that ever happened.

Speaker 46 It's the invisible man.

Speaker 3 Kyle or woman. Kyle Morrison in Duncan, BC, Canada, 5001.
That's another birthday donation to Logan.

Speaker 3 He wants a biscuit for his birthday. We'll give you.

Speaker 213 They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.

Speaker 33 Right now.

Speaker 3 We'll give you one right there. And now we're already to the $50 donors.
There's a little list here. We'll start with, and we just do names and locations, starting with Foster Birch in New York City.

Speaker 3 Matt Praisey in St. John's, Florida.
Daniel LeBois in Bath, Michigan. James Sharimeta in Napanak, New York.
Rebecca Ho, or Hogg, H-A-U-G-H, in Memphis, Tennessee. Chris Connacher in Anchorage, Alaska.

Speaker 3 Aichi Kitagawi. He's over there in San Francisco.
Walker Phillips is in San Rafael, and that concludes our list of well-wishers and people who helped us produce show a 1761, I believe.

Speaker 19 Yeah, 1761 is correct.

Speaker 99 Didn't the TRS-80 also run on that 80 chip?

Speaker 3 No, no, the TRS-80 was an 80-80.

Speaker 41 8080, right.

Speaker 11 That's what I learned on the Sinclair ZX80.

Speaker 61 That's where I was my first computer.

Speaker 3 Actually, the TRS-80 may have been a Z80.

Speaker 48 I think it was a Z80, actually.

Speaker 130 Yeah. The trash 80.

Speaker 218 I still have my TRS-100.

Speaker 6 We had

Speaker 3 TRS-80 with the dual drives. It was actually a very functional machine.
It was, it was well. And I, and then I thought RadioSheck was going to stay in the business, and then they just

Speaker 3 came out with a 16-bit machine, and then they just dropped them all.

Speaker 18 Then they went with the cell phones.

Speaker 100 Once the, I have my old Radio Shack.

Speaker 3 Did they do this Coco, the color computer?

Speaker 37 Yes.

Speaker 60 I think that was, that had a crap keyboard.

Speaker 3 I think that killed them. Yeah,

Speaker 33 yeah.

Speaker 42 Yeah, I love my Sinclair's.

Speaker 169 I love my truck and I love what I do.

Speaker 63 Thank you very much to these donors, $50 and above.

Speaker 98 And, of course, our executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 71 Thanks to all of you who supported us under 50.

Speaker 128 Reasons of anonymity is why we never mention those.

Speaker 11 I love my truck and I love what I do.

Speaker 12 Here's the requested jobs, karma.

Speaker 214 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Speaker 9 You thought.

Speaker 4 And remember, you can always set up a recurring donation.

Speaker 63 Any amount, any frequency.

Speaker 15 Go to noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 4 It's your first day and birthday.

Speaker 4 Oh, no agenda.

Speaker 8 How would you have a nice list today? Brett Carruthers wishes his smoking hot wife Brittany a happy birthday.

Speaker 35 She turned 37 on the, well, that's today, actually.

Speaker 144 Cico de Cuatro.

Speaker 6 Mom, dad, and brother Cole.

Speaker 8 Say happy birthday to Logan Morrison, celebrates today.

Speaker 3 Nick Stark turns 27 today.

Speaker 132 Danelle Mackey, hey, Danelle,

Speaker 8 celebrating today. Uh-oh, celebrating tomorrow.

Speaker 118 The one, the only, the adorable Dvorak, who loves his wooden car.

Speaker 8 Tynan Rebich, which is Sir Ross the Boss, a very happy one for the sixth.

Speaker 83 And also, Molly, a happy one for May 28th.

Speaker 8 And we say happy birthday to all of these people on behalf of the best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 8 Yeah, we have a title change for Sir 920 of 920.

Speaker 11 He has supported the best podcast in the universe and another additional amount of $1,000.

Speaker 41 We're very grateful for that.

Speaker 76 And he now becomes a Baron, Baron Tom, Warden of the Frozen Tundra.

Speaker 19 Congratulations on that upgrade in your peerage here on the No Agenda peerage ladder.

Speaker 5 And now it is time for our Commodores. We've got two of them today.

Speaker 63 We have Commodore Danielle Sean Gerald Morse and

Speaker 4 just at the last moment, Commodore Spooky, both Commodores of No Agenda.

Speaker 41 And as we always say, Commodores arriving.

Speaker 13 Go to noagendarings.com and you'll find exactly the spot where you can give us all the information that you want on your official No Agenda Commodore certificate.

Speaker 109 We are happy to send that off to you.

Speaker 13 And thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 13 Yes, sir.

Speaker 74 They are producer organized.

Speaker 72 They are all over the world.

Speaker 63 You heard the call out there.

Speaker 89 Sir Patrick is going to be attending the one in Amsterdam.

Speaker 98 We have one today, the Quad Cities Iowa Area Meetup, 7 o'clock at Lopiz, Lopiz, in Davenport, Iowa.

Speaker 13 Big Nasty is organizing that.

Speaker 36 And it's not on the calendar yet.

Speaker 20 We'll see why that didn't happen.

Speaker 19 But on May 17th at 1776, right outside of Fredericksburg, Curry and the Keeper will be there.

Speaker 45 Many of the luminaries from the Austin area will, of course, be attending.

Speaker 131 That's May 17th.

Speaker 54 And that is Matt Long who is organizing that.

Speaker 11 On the calendar as well, Eagle, Idaho on the 10th, Leiden in the Netherlands on the 14th.

Speaker 160 Charlotte, North Carolina, the 15th.

Speaker 119 The 16th.

Speaker 19 Whitefield, New Hampshire on the 17th, Bedford, Texas, Colorado Springs, Fort Wayne, Indiana, New Kent, Virginia, Springfield, Oregon, the 18th, Keene, New Hampshire, Kudlenborg, Ichelderland, the Netherlands on the 29th.

Speaker 13 The 31st is Pensauken Township, New Jersey, Long Beach, California. I'm sure there'll be Leo Bravo on the 31st.

Speaker 94 Indianapolis, Indiana, part one on June 1st.

Speaker 171 They have a part two on June 29th, so two in the month of June. Central Jersey, Jersey on the 21st and Longview, Texas on the 29th.

Speaker 19 Just a small sampling of the meetups that are available at noagendameetups.com.

Speaker 45 You want to go to one of these because these people that you meet will be your first responders in an emergency.

Speaker 126 When you go, you get a connection that gives you protection. Noagendameetups.com.
If you can't find one near you, start one yourself.

Speaker 5 It's easy and always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

Speaker 5 You to be where you want me.

Speaker 4 Trebbed on the flame.

Speaker 11 You want to be where everybody knows.

Speaker 37 Oh, it just feels the same. Knows your name, feels the same.

Speaker 4 It's like a party.

Speaker 143 Like a party.

Speaker 165 Like a party.

Speaker 4 Like a party. Like a party.

Speaker 156 I see you have three. One, two, three.

Speaker 141 So you spent some more credits on your AI extravaganza journey to try and make some good ISOs for the end of the show.

Speaker 75 I have one, which is a Sanko de Mayo ISO, which I think has possibility.

Speaker 129 Here we go.

Speaker 121 Get ready. We're going for margaritas.

Speaker 161 There you go.

Speaker 33 Huh. It's kind of hollow.

Speaker 3 Well, it's a hollow. Is that you, yelling?

Speaker 4 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 148 I don't know where it came from.

Speaker 75 It's producer submitted.

Speaker 3 I have one. It's not even, it's not

Speaker 2 a AI.

Speaker 3 It's a tough one.

Speaker 75 Tough one. Let's see.

Speaker 134 Oh, that's a tough one.

Speaker 14 No, that's a real ISO.

Speaker 26 I appreciate that.

Speaker 33 Yeah, it's not very, it's not very positive, but okay.

Speaker 3 Okay, let's let's start with quality.

Speaker 125 High quality stuff.

Speaker 155 Can't beat it.

Speaker 35 No, no, that's a bad AI voice.

Speaker 61 That's rejected out of hand.

Speaker 3 Okay, let's cry with no, no, no. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 159 Note that it's too good to be a podcast.

Speaker 203 Okay.

Speaker 63 Yes, you win once again.

Speaker 92 I can't believe it.

Speaker 132 Every single time,

Speaker 85 the AI pictures are winning.

Speaker 45 The AI ISOs are winning.

Speaker 29 If only someone could make a hit song with AI, that seems to be impossible.

Speaker 33 And of course,

Speaker 5 we cannot make a hit with a tip of the day.

Speaker 8 It's original from JCD.

Speaker 4 Great master you and me. Just the tip with JCD.

Speaker 75 And sometimes Adam.

Speaker 99 Created by Dana Bernetti.

Speaker 3 Look, it's actually a great tip. People have to pay attention to the whole lecture, though.
It's going to be a little bit longer than usual.

Speaker 33 Oh, oh, boy. Okay.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 I've always liked bitters. Bitters.
After-dinner drink you have at the end of the meal. Ugh.

Speaker 3 You have it, it helps your digest. It's got all kinds of herbs and stuff in it.
They tend to have genescin, which is typically the main thing of most people.

Speaker 153 Don't they have what's the other thing in the bitters?

Speaker 146 Anise? Anise? Anise?

Speaker 3 Some do, some don't.

Speaker 3 That's mostly the ones with anise tend to be more of like pastiche.

Speaker 83 I like the anise.

Speaker 33 I like the anise ones.

Speaker 3 Well, there's lots of those around, but that's what we're talking about. They don't have very little anise in these.
Amaros, which is

Speaker 3 a sub-segment of bitters, the ones that are made in Italy. Most of these were designed in the mid-1800s.
They're using the exact same formula.

Speaker 3 And so, what happened was I started drinking these things with my son-in-law, Brennan. They used to come over.

Speaker 3 He has what I would call, people who understand these things would say, an inquisitive palate.

Speaker 3 Definitely looking for something that

Speaker 3 memorizes taste. He's really good.

Speaker 25 He's just stuck up to his father-in-law.

Speaker 3 Well, he's got, I do blind tasting with these kids just to make sure they're not trying to buffalo me.

Speaker 37 So

Speaker 3 we got into these bitters and we got into these Amaros in particular, and we started going through a lot of them over a two-year period.

Speaker 3 We probably went through a, and I have a bunch of them already, and we went through the ones we owe the Swiss ones, the French ones, and we started focusing on the best ones.

Speaker 3 And we finally determined the absolute best after dinner. And he had kind of some stomach issues, but these bitters are fabulous for the after-the-meal.

Speaker 3 You have like a shot in a bigger glass of about an ounce of bitters as

Speaker 3 the thing at the end of the meal, the digestif

Speaker 3 as it might be called in France.

Speaker 142 Digestif.

Speaker 3 Brawlio is the creme de la creme de la creme of the great Amaros out of Italy. I

Speaker 3 tried them all, the Fournettes and all the rest of them. It's so hard to beat this particular product.
It's not a cheap product.

Speaker 3 They sell in the leaders for about 50 bucks. It's not a cheap product at all.
But you can go to the website. It's available everywhere.

Speaker 3 You go to the web, and it's a special kind of sub-segment of Amaro, which is the Alpine ones, which means it was done in the mountains from mountain herbs.

Speaker 3 And it's got a blend of mountain herbs that was determined. And most of these things, by the way, we started off as medicines, and they were developed by pharmacists in the 1800s.

Speaker 3 And this particular one is a stunner.

Speaker 76 Is it available at Costco?

Speaker 3 Not that I know of. It may be on and off, but I've never seen it there.
I don't get it at Costco.

Speaker 3 But Amaro Braulio, B-R-A-U-L-I-O.com, Amaro, M-A-A-M-A-R-O-B-R-A-U-L-I-O, which is the name of the brand. That's their website.com.

Speaker 3 It's a beautiful product. It's aged.
It's just,

Speaker 3 it's the best of the best. We've tried all of them.
This is the go-to.

Speaker 152 This is a very valuable tip.

Speaker 85 What is it called again?

Speaker 73 Braulio.

Speaker 73 R-A-U-L-I-O.

Speaker 41 Brawlio.

Speaker 130 Do you have indigestion after dinner?

Speaker 132 Then you need Brawlio.

Speaker 210 It is John C.

Speaker 6 Dvorak's Tip of the Day, tipoftheday.net.

Speaker 4 Great fast for you and me. Just a tip with JCD.

Speaker 75 And sometimes at all.

Speaker 99 Created by Dana Bernetti.

Speaker 19 And many thanks to our producer who diligently updates tipoftheday.net.

Speaker 13 And we also have noagendafund.com.

Speaker 107 So you can always go back and look.

Speaker 19 He's always tweeting them out or tooting them or posting them or slashing that X.

Speaker 11 It's a good deal.

Speaker 184 Tips of the Day.

Speaker 97 It is a free resource from your No Agenda show.

Speaker 13 Not to be confused with the Tip of the Day from Bill O'Reilly, for which you have to be a concierge member.

Speaker 11 No bull crap like that here, ladies and gentlemen, at all.

Speaker 85 And this does conclude our media deconstruction day.

Speaker 160 We had a good time, good time doing it for you.

Speaker 101 We do it as a public service.

Speaker 40 Coming up next on the No Agenda stream, it's Gene Neftuliev, our Russian translator, and Darren O'Neal, our AI artist.

Speaker 19 They have a show called Unrelenting, and we'll be rolling out the Blitzkrieg Tariffs edition of their podcast.

Speaker 75 It's beautiful.

Speaker 18 End of show mixes from

Speaker 132 Dee's Laughs and Nautilus K.

Speaker 11 Nautilus K is brand new.

Speaker 83 It's his second mix and he's loving it.

Speaker 75 And he loves his truck, too.

Speaker 85 And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in the picturesque village of Fredericksburg.

Speaker 11 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 3 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.

Speaker 33 We return on Thursday.

Speaker 8 Remember us at NoAgendadonations.com.

Speaker 33 Until then, adios movos, a hooey hooey, and such.

Speaker 182 Huge Venn diagram overlap because what we really care about is trying to make sense of the world and not being distracted by all the meaningless distractions that happen out there that the world is

Speaker 199 talking about.

Speaker 134 The stuff that's gonna affect you the most is the stuff that happens in your town or your views.

Speaker 199 Beacon Yonas and the whole Pony Express, the OGC. Tom Woods is so good.
Fearless podcast and the cast of soldiers are laying the wood.

Speaker 4 Just look at these clear thinkers at the blaze.

Speaker 199 Delano Squires and Norrin McIntyre cutting through the haze. Really admire these two thoughtful intellectuals.
Good thing, good sire. Then there's Coach JB always looking up for debate or fight.

Speaker 4 I mean, correcting Coach Mandy when he isn't right.

Speaker 199 Joey and Len from the CBP. Bitcoin relating relating to Canadians, giving better coverage in the CBC.

Speaker 164 Most generous pension system, we can't afford any of it.

Speaker 199 Getting better coverage in the CBC, Shaw from SGT, shining the light, converting the news. The mockingbird seems fit to omit and they're never right.

Speaker 166 Marionette on strength.

Speaker 199 The mocking bird media is never right.

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 220 It's that so flooded, grows it,

Speaker 220 chemtrails, grousy, it is that so flooded, grousy,

Speaker 4 chemtrails, grousy.

Speaker 80 Sounds exactly what's been happening to me.

Speaker 80 Stratospheric aerosol injections.

Speaker 80 How do we stop it? Chemtrails.

Speaker 80 Stratospheric aerosol injections.

Speaker 80 Quantif intervention technique.

Speaker 80 injections.

Speaker 80 Chemtrails. When I was a kid, they were talking about.
How do we stop it?

Speaker 80 Chemtrails.

Speaker 93 Chemtrails. When I was a kid, they were talking about them.

Speaker 4 Browser.

Speaker 96 The tests of flooding.

Speaker 4 Chemtrails. Browser.

Speaker 96 The tests of flooding.

Speaker 145 How do we stop it? Browser.

Speaker 165 The test of flooding browser.

Speaker 165 Chemtrails. Browser.

Speaker 220 The test of of flooded browser.

Speaker 202 How do we stop it?

Speaker 202 How do we stop it?

Speaker 202 Chemtras, browser. This is exactly what's been happening to me.

Speaker 190 Stratospheric aerosol injection.

Speaker 213 How do we stop it?

Speaker 213 The best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 161 Adios, Mofo, Dvorak.org slash na.

Speaker 159 No, no, no, no. Note that is too good to be a podcast.