1757 - "Word Veto"

The whole thing is staged.

Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Sunday, April 20th, 2025.

This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination, episode 1757.

This is no agenda.

He is risen, and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA, region number 16.

Good morning, everybody.

I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where everybody's saying Happy Easter.

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

It's Craig Lotta Muzkill.

In the Monk

I almost didn't make it.

Jeez.

I got COVID.

I got COVID.

I picked up COVID in Holland.

So, did you pick up something on the way back?

Yeah, COVID.

You didn't pick up COVID.

Well, everyone says it's COVID.

There must be COVID.

I'm probably dying of the COVID.

You sound terrible.

Yeah, thank you.

I was trying.

There's a cough button you have.

I think you're you're just doing this for dramatic purposes.

Hello.

See, now when I hit the cough button, when I hit the cough button, then you make a big problem out of it.

Thanks.

Hello.

Hello.

Hello.

Hello.

Hello.

Hello.

Are you there?

I'm here.

Yeah, I think I picked something up at the party.

What are the chances?

200 elites all gathered together.

One of them is going to be a seething illness-ridden human resource.

So, you do have some ailment.

I do, yes.

It actually started.

Because normally,

you never show it even if you're sick as a dog, but you do sound a little congested.

That's the problem.

It started Thursday during our last show, and I was using the cough button continuously.

Seamlessly, let's put it that way.

Not so much because I was coughing, but

it's just the congestion.

blowing my nose, man, is horrible.

It's horrible.

It's horrible.

Anyway,

I'm so happy that it gives you such joy.

It's not funny.

It's not funny.

I mean, I could have called you.

I'm televanting around the world, wondering why you're sick.

So well.

I'm not wondering why I'm sick, but I have a question for you.

Forget about so well.

No.

It is 4.20.

Yeah.

A lot going on in this day.

And the question I have for you

is: are you now currently at this moment under martial law?

Oh, that's right.

Today is Martial Law Day.

Yes, I am.

I mean, it's one of the things.

I already forgot about this.

No, no, I hadn't forgot about it because

it was even

like a 10-minute topic on the Hill.

What's the girl's name?

Crystal?

Crystal Ball?

Crystal Ball.

Crystal Ball, that's her name, right?

Well, no, she's not on the hill.

They do an independent podcast now.

No, I thought this was on the hill.

Well, the hill, no, she's not.

She used to be on the hill, but she's not on the hill anymore.

Well, she was, she was all beside herself.

And, you know, first of all, I mean, I got to play these two clips because she was so, I mean, the big.

I'm glad you have clips about this because I completely, you know, I completely dropped the ball on this.

Well, you think that I would think that Easter is the most important thing to think think about today or that

420 day or Hitler's birthday.

But no, I was watching for martial law because

we've been assured today would be martial law.

And here's the setup.

By the way, we've been, I'm sorry, but we've been assured by these various screwballs

with no foundation.

Well, she actually lays out, now I understand the foundation of this thing.

And the big Chiron said, 420 martial law, 420, 4/20 martial law.

I'm like, it's Easter.

I don't,

just on its face, that this president would declare martial law on Easter is highly unlikely.

421, maybe, maybe, maybe it'll happen tomorrow.

But no, not on 420.

But the reason why is because the resistance is growing.

Resistance is swelling, both at the grassroots.

I'm sorry, it's swelling.

Swelling.

It's swelling.

The resistance is swelling

both at the grassroots and the institutional level hundreds of thousands of people have turned out to bernie and aoc's fight oligarchy tour including large crowds in red states like idaho millions turned out coast to coast as part of the hands-off protests members of congress cannot hold a town hall without being flooded by outraged constituents

universities are beginning to fight back rather than get rolled law firms are starting to think twice about their capitulation bribery deals democrats have moved from Corey Booker's show speech to Chris Van Hollen's genuinely courageous flight to tangle with Bukele in El Salvador.

The courts are becoming increasingly assertive, and bond traders are apparently the actual deep states.

Now, how will Trump respond to this rapid political shift and mounting backlash?

It won't be by backing down or changing course.

It will be by cracking down.

Oh, yeah.

It will be by cracking down

martial law.

He's going to put military on the street so that he can ship everybody off.

They're going to become the Amazon of shipping human resources out of the country.

Some of this project, of course, is already well in motion.

He's used supposed national emergencies and national security threats already to claim extraordinary powers by his terrorist program and by invoking the Alien Enemies Act.

But there's more.

On April 20th, pursuant to an executive order that Trump signed on day one of his presidency, he is going to receive a report from Defense Secretary Pete Hagseth and Fascist Barbie Christy Noam about whether or not

fascist Barbie.

Hey, like we pioneered A.G.

Barbie.

I have to say, fascist Barbie may be better.

Well, Fascist Barbie refers to Christy Noam.

A.G.

Barbie refers to him.

Oh, that's right.

It's Pam Bondi, yes.

Who do we have as Ken?

Is it VP Ken?

Heggs said it would be Ken.

Heggs F.

Heggs F.

Ken.

Heggs F.

and Fascist Barbie, Christy Noam, about whether or not he should invoke the Insurrection Act of 1807.

Now, such an invocation would open up extraordinary powers for this president to use our military in our streets against our citizens.

There it is.

You see, this is what this whole thing was about, is about this report that is supposed to be delivered today because reports always come on Easter Sunday.

And

because people love working on the holidays.

There's nothing like it.

And so there's going to be this report from

Heg Seth Ken.

Maybe just call him Ken Hag Seth.

No, Hegseth Ken is better.

And Hegseth Ken is going to say, we're ready, Mr.

President.

We're ready to start rousing citizens on the the strait.

Of course, there are any number of ways which he might deploy that power.

Perhaps he'd deploy the military to the border, part of an expanded militarized immigration response.

Acting head of ICE has mused about ramping up mass deportation on an industrial scale, even fantasizing about fleets of trucks scooping up immigrants the way that Amazon efficiently delivers packages on a mass scale.

Quote, we need to get better at treating this like a business, acting ICE Director Todd Lyons said, explaining he wants to see a deportation process like Amazon Prime, but with human beings.

Yeah.

Trump and the Republicans are pushing for a much larger budget for ICE and for private prison contractors to run detention centers.

But if you really want to go for industrial scale, it'd be hard to beat the military.

Now, even if you are hawkish on immigration, think of the genuinely evil way this administration has already conducted itself.

Do you feel comfortable handing them the tools for a militarized industrial scale human removal and incarceration system?

Do you really think the horror is going to be just reserved to the criminals, the gang members, when we already know that 90% of the men that they sent to a slave labor torture dungeon were innocent, like Amazon Prime, for fascism, I guess?

90%?

Yes, 90%.

Yeah.

So, so

I hope you could tell by looking at them.

I hope that you can find more of those TikTokers who, when they say, oh, it's coming, it wasn't 420.

It's going to be

430.

Oh, yeah, they're going to move the date.

But

this is the insanity that we've come to in our

mainstream media messaging system, which is still, it's still live.

It's still hobbling along.

The morning shows this morning, the Sunday morning shows, all filled with Easter cheer

and filled with Chris Van Holland, who went to El Salvador because he is so brave.

He's so brave.

And he talked to.

What was this guy doing not in a jail, by the way?

Yeah, they went to hotel.

They were

having mojitos.

Margarita.

Margarita.

The guy was dressed with like with a hat, with a backward hat and a Hawaiian shirt.

And

what was this?

And so they brought a photographer along, so they took some ops, photo ops.

And it was like ridiculous.

And the fact that this,

you know,

this is beyond me.

Well, so he was on every one of the top three shows, Face the Nation, Meet the Press, and This Week.

And they all had the exact same script, exact same questions, and the exact same answers.

So let's listen to

CBS Facebook.

This is basically a three by three on morning shows.

It is, but I will not appropriate your jingle.

Senator, thank you so much for joining us this morning.

You're just back from El Salvador, and I want to pick up where we left off with Camilo, because the White House is using these new details to build its case that Abrego Garcia should stay where he is and not come back to the U.S.

Your response?

Well, Ouija, it's good to be with you.

And these

cases, of course, separate.

She knew Ouija.

Ouija.

He's a Ouija board.

Ouija, Ouija, Zhang.

Ouija Zhang.

Well, Ouja, it's good to be with you.

And his case is, of course, separate than the case of the Venezuelans that you were talking about earlier.

Yes.

And in Abrego Garcia's case, the Trump administration admitted in federal court that he'd been wrongfully abducted and sent to a prison in El Salvador.

But rather than fixing the problem as the Supreme Court...

Wait, wait.

So he's quoting them as, and somebody came out and said he was wrongfully abducted?

I don't think so.

No, well, of course not.

They said we made a clerical error, but he was no good anyway.

Put him on the Amazon Express.

The court has said in terms of his need to be, use their efforts to

facilitate his release.

They reprimanded the lawyer who made that case.

So they need to bring him home.

Now, with respect to these other facts, I say put up or shut up in court.

This was his continuous thing.

So on all the networks, put up or shut up in court.

Here's NBC Meet the Press.

You know, while you were in El Salvador, the White House was counterprogramming, effectively, releasing information about

counter-programming?

That's interesting.

So they're aware of the distraction of the week and how it works?

Counter-programming?

The White House was counter-programming effectively, releasing information about Mr.

Abrego's Garcia's background, including a police report suggesting he's a member of MS-13, details about a restraining order from his wife, who ultimately dropped the matter, and a police report in which an officer said he suspected Mr.

Obrego Garcia may have been involved in human trafficking.

Now, he's never been charged with a crime, but is his past complicating the broader argument that you are trying to make here about due process?

Well, what Donald Trump is trying to do is change the subject.

Let's

make no bones about that, right?

This

the Trump administration is ignoring a Supreme Court order 9 to nothing to facilitate his return because they admitted in court, they, the Trump administration, that he'd been wrongfully detained.

Now, what I have said is: Donald Trump and his administration need to put up or shut up in court.

There it is, put up or shut up in court.

Can ABC go for the hat-trick, Jonathan Carl?

Are you concerned about your defense of somebody?

Obviously, everybody in this country,

even those undocumented immigrants, have rights, but are you concerned about standing so forcefully with somebody that has, you know, at least a questionable record?

I am not defending the man.

I'm defending the rights of this man to due process.

And the Trump administration has admitted in court that he was wrongfully detained and wrongfully deported.

My mission and my purpose is to make sure that we uphold the rule of law because if we take it away from him, we do jeopardize it for everybody else.

I do want to point out, Carl, yes, the Trump administration is trying to change the story.

They're trying to detract attention.

Here's where they should put their facts.

They should put it before the court.

They should put up or shut up in court.

I mean, come on.

Does nobody have an exclusive anymore these days?

So these kids are this guy.

It's all the same.

This guy who sounds like a nervous wreck.

He sounds like

a character, actually, shaking a voice and all.

He's doing this as a stunt to run for president.

This guy's running for president?

Yeah.

Oh, boy.

Well, you pretty much summarize it right there.

Let's do a triple shot here of Margarita Gate.

So, did you walk into a trap, though?

I mean, they bring him to your hotel drive.

The civilian

clothes.

And you met with him.

We saw the images that you put out

of meeting with him

at the beginning of the meeting.

You're sitting there,

you're drinking water and talking to the guy in the hotel lobby, I assume.

Water?

And then at some point they bring in these like,

you know, glasses that look like margarita glasses.

What, margarita glasses?

Yeah,

it wasn't a trap.

My goal was to meet with him.

How come he wasn't in the, I don't understand.

Why was he not in the El Salvadorian jail with his head shaves?

Bald.

This is the part I don't understand.

The whole thing is staged now.

Yeah, and make sure I could tell his wife and family he was okay.

That was my goal.

And I achieved that goal.

You're absolutely right that the Salvadoran.

No, hold stop.

That wasn't his goal.

No.

His goal was what?

To run from.

His goal, he said at the beginning of this whole trek that he was going to go there and get him and bring him back.

That was the goal.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, it seems like they could have just hopped onto the jet and taken off.

I don't think it was an issue.

The guy was not detained.

He was was hanging on a hotel.

Hanging on a hotel lobby.

I achieved that goal.

You're absolutely right that the Salvadoran authorities tried to deceive people.

They tried to make it look like he was in paradise.

They actually wanted to have the meeting by the hotel pool originally.

Yeah, I wonder who really wanted to have the meeting.

The producer is probably like, hey, this is a much better shot over here by the pool.

We can all be outside.

Really?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

We had to negotiate that.

They wanted to put me right overlooking the pool.

In fact, if you had a different angle on the Campbell camera shot, you would see the pool.

Because they did write that Bukele put out a statement saying, miraculously risen from the death camps and torture and sipping margaritas with you.

I mean, they were really trying to make you look like you were.

hanging out with somebody that they say is clown, is a gang member.

Oh, no.

Let's see what CBS.

We just.

I want to show our viewers some pictures that the president of.

Do you believe that this was the number one topic on all three Sunday news shows?

This is what blows me away.

There's a lot going on.

We are under martial law, people.

El Salvador Bukele posted showing you and Obrego Garcia sitting around what appears to be margaritas.

You have blamed him for trying to deceive people with props.

After he posted those images, he also posted, quote, I love chess.

Do you have any concerns that the Salvadoran government used you as a pawn to make their point that Obrego Garcia is doing well and that he should stay where he is?

Oh, I see what she did there.

She said, chess pawn, okay.

No, in fact, the El Salvadorian government tried really hard not to let me see him,

but I think they realized that that was not a good look at the end of the day.

I've had press conferences in El Salvador with local press and made the point that El Salvador was wait a minute.

How can there be local press under that dictatorship of Bukhali?

This doesn't make any sense.

Violating international law by not allowing anyone to reach him, not his wife, not his lawyers.

Nobody.

They realized that was a bad look.

So I'm glad I met him.

That was the purpose of my visit.

Yeah, but the glass danger.

Wait, hold on.

You say he just changed his

purpose different again.

It's perfect.

Now it's perfect.

Oh, God.

He keeps changing it.

A new purpose.

Nobody.

They realized that was a bad look.

So I'm glad I met him.

That was the purpose of my visit.

They go to great lengths to deceive people.

And that's what you saw because they.

Those evil Bitcoin people in El Salvador.

These government guys essentially told the waiters to bring these drinks that appear to look like margaritas to the table.

No one touched them.

I can go into the details about how their whole scheme was set up.

But the reality is, if you look at the photos when I first sat down and the ones at the end, you can see that that was all staged.

They're trying to create the impression that, you know, this is a guy in paradise when, in fact, he's been in one of the most notorious prisons in the world.

But his head wasn't shaven.

So he was not in that prison.

Here's the last one, Kristen Welkin, NBC.

Absolutely not.

They had no intention of letting me meet with Abrego Garcia until they felt the pressure.

They felt the pressure from people saying, why are you

complicit in this illegal scheme?

Why are you denying his wife, his lawyer, or anybody the opportunity to speak with him?

So my mission was to be able to say that he is at least alive.

That was his mission.

Third mission.

Third mission.

The fourth.

That's the fourth.

That's the fourth mission.

He had a lot of missions, man.

You're right.

It's the lengths that both

the El Salvadorian president, Buchaley, and Donald Trump will go to deceive people are boundless, right?

In this case, they did order the waiters, the government people, to bring these two glasses that appear to be margaritas.

I have no idea.

We didn't touch them.

And they tried to manipulate it to make it look like Mr.

Obrego's Garcia's margarita had been drunk.

In other words, the liquid was lower.

But they screwed.

Hey, John, if you and I were going to try and make this look like paradise, but I think we would have chosen some different tactics.

Like I'd have girls in bikinis walking around, you know, we'd have party lights, party people, DJ thumping in the background.

Exactly.

No, no, no, those stupid El Salvadorians, we're going to put liquid in the glass.

Don't even know if it's salt or sugar, and we're going to make one a little lower so everyone will think that he's been drinking it.

Screw it up in their scheme because if you look at the rims of the glasses, I don't know if it was salt or sugar, but there's no gap.

Who puts sugar on their margarita?

Is that a thing, even?

There are drinks.

There are other drinks.

The whole thing is a joke.

Yeah, it is.

Okay, I'll finish.

Nine seconds.

Now, so nobody touched it.

Let's stop.

The fact is that you're right.

These morning shows that this is their story.

We have a borderline bombing of Iran.

We have the crisis where the Netanyahu is getting shut down.

We have all kinds of, we have the big protests over the weekend.

We have all these things going on.

And this publicity stunt,

because this guy's running for president, or he thinks he is.

I didn't have a prayer because he's a moron.

Yeah.

is the top of the news because obviously somebody's coordinating this and it's not any of the news directors.

It's Chuck Schumer again.

Who?

I don't know.

The whole thing is.

You know what?

You know, I was thinking, first thing I thought was maybe the CIA or somebody.

But once you mention Chuck Schumer, you're probably right because it's so lame.

Yeah, that has to be a Schumerism,

a Schumer scheme.

It has to be.

It's so dumb.

And then, oh, they all do this.

Who cares?

I mean, we do, of course, because it's just so stupid.

I'm going to be talking to a high school

in a couple of weeks, and they want me to come in and talk about propaganda.

Well, man.

Wait, wait, stop, stop, stop.

Yes.

What?

Yeah, this

guy down the street, he teaches a class in media communications.

It's an advanced placement class to,

I guess, 10th, 11th graders.

And he wanted me to come in and talk about propaganda.

I said, are you sure they're going to be able to handle it?

Because they're going to see stuff they've never seen before because that's, they just never watch that stuff.

You have to show this dumb stuff.

And then, you know, the senators all saying the same thing.

Basically, I'm going to come in, play a bunch of super cuts, say, I'm the pod father.

I'm the pod father, drop my mic, and I'm out.

And that's what it's going to be.

And yell, go podcasting.

Go podcasting.

He said, the kids are really excited.

These kids don't know who I am.

Well, they know what podcast is.

Who's this old fart coming in?

No, no, he's not an old fart.

No, he's not.

No, you.

Oh, oh,

okay.

Thank you.

Who's this boomer you brought in, teach?

Teach.

Whoever used that term.

Only a boomer.

Only a boomer.

Only a boomer.

Teach.

Oh, man.

All right.

So, so

there is some very interesting news, and I'm going to play it in.

Wait, wait, before you go on with these clips,

anything interesting happened on the way back from Amsterdam?

You usually have a story about going through customs or

some foul-up or

a last-ditch thing that you saw when you left and you didn't realize this was that bad over there.

And how's your daughter doing?

Okay, well, thank you for asking.

My daughter is doing very well, and uh, so I told her I'm gonna see you on Friday.

You know, let's go to a nice restaurant, and which turned out to be Japanese fusion, seven courses.

It took four hours for them to serve this thing.

That was a little long.

But before that, she arranged for us to

do a have a VR experience.

And this is

a franchise called Zero Latency.

And imagine a Kwanzat hut in the middle of

South Rotterdam.

And so they've got a big room, and you have walls.

It was a Kwanzat hut, but a pretty high ceiling.

Kwanzat hut.

It was a Kwanzat hut, I'm telling you.

It was open on one side.

And

so you have this really big room, and it has kind of

a black floor and

walls with some stripes on it.

And so you play as a team.

We went, the three of us, you do up to eight players.

You get your VR goggles, you get your weapon.

Who's the third?

Oh, her fiancé, Kevin.

Oh, okay.

Kevin.

We like Kevin.

And so then you go in, and then it takes a second to sync up.

And we did the zombie apocalypse VR experience.

So you're, you know, you're, you, you see each other, you all look, of course, you know, you're, you have an avatar.

It's very, it's photorealistic, kind of like, it has very much like a Doom feeling to it, only higher resolution.

If you remember the game Doom, another boomer reference, everybody.

It was incredibly realistic.

Is it more like Doom or more like Duke Nukem?

Oh, much more like Duke Nukem.

I mean, it was an advance, but the, you know, it's basically

first-person shooter, except you got your team, you can switch guns you know you see a gun you walk over toward it you grab the gun you got a plasma gun you can switch between you know grenades and you get a gatling gun is there anything you could do you're doing in the concert hut that you can't do at home

i yeah i got to tell you Well, it was, it's big.

You need the space because you're walking around.

You're actually walking around.

Oh, yeah, you're walking.

The thing that's kind of weird is, you know, you want to walk up to the elevator and it has a ramp.

And of course, if you actually try to walk up, like you're going to step on the ramp, you're going to fall on your face.

So you learn pretty quickly.

You just walk and then the ramp kind of adjusts to you.

So that, but that only took three minutes to get used to it.

It was incredibly real.

So real that, you know, the zombies are coming at you.

And then you hear in the headphones, there's one gnawing at you behind you.

You turn around, you blast him with the grenade.

And I actually got a physical response to this.

I was tired after 30 minutes.

I'm like, that was a tough day of fighting zombies.

Oh, God.

And I thought, this will never fly for anything but this.

You can't live in this world.

It's very disassociative.

Wait, wait.

You said it won't fly for anything but this?

Yeah, but it's zombie fighting.

Yeah, it won't.

Work for

touring Paris.

No, no, no, no, no.

No, no.

Of course not.

No.

So I can't go on a cruise

down the canals in Venice.

Yeah, but you won't get the wind in your face.

You know, zombies is already kind of a surreal experience.

You don't need to have anything.

So, okay, so what you're predicting is it's a dead end.

It's a dead end.

This is fun.

I mean, it's a great friend.

It's a fun, dead end.

It's a fun show title, fun, dead end.

Yeah, that's basically what that is.

But to say that

this would be like the metaverse is going to be cool, no.

No, you can't, you can't do more than a half hour of this stuff.

And then you're just like, ah, and then the thing is heavy on your head.

But more importantly,

I got a lot of emails from people about my report from the last show when I was in Amsterdam.

Yeah.

And

it's interesting.

I think I was pretty clear telling everybody that I was amongst the media elites and that taxi Eric, you know, he's the guy that is saying, no, no, no, we think Trump should have a statue.

Because I got a lot of similar emails saying,

you need to get out of Amsterdam.

It's not like that everywhere.

We're all against this, the global elites.

We love Trump.

I thought it was pretty clear what you said.

You were with a bunch of elitists that were completely off the rails, and Taxi Eric was a kind of foundational.

And then

connected to reality in some funny way, even though he almost got me killed.

Yeah, well, that was, that was anyway.

So,

but what I get from everybody is the same thing.

The people who listen to no agenda, and I'm sure that, you know, there's other people who don't listen to no agenda, other groups who are, who are all in.

But everybody is just talking amongst themselves.

No one's doing anything.

Not dissimilar to the United States until Trump stood up and said, hey, this nonsense is over.

So everybody thinks it's crazy.

It's no good.

But meanwhile, even this new government, the new cabinet just steamrolls over everybody.

They get the same old, same old.

So there's two emails I pulled out that I want to share.

First one is from Nathan.

He says,

Adam, as you know, Amsterdam is extremely left.

Everyone is scared and angry.

In my class, this prevails as well.

I'm in the second of the Cygnus gymnasium.

So he's probably about 17.

When I ask why they are angry, they say, Trump musk, but they don't really know.

They're afraid of Trump becoming a dictator.

Usually their reason is that he is shutting down all the institutions and putting pressure on the legal system.

Real facts or examples?

Well, they never have those.

The most left voters also think a European army is a good idea.

How it is regulated with taxation via your carbon footprint is perfect.

These people, these people will have to change themselves.

Now they only vote for the left.

With this, they think that their sins on climate will be redeemed.

Even people closer to me find it hard to keep thinking for themselves.

Family, who my father and I try to explain as much, we can also

panic.

Of course, because they can only see the M5M, I find it increasingly difficult to restrain myself and seeing people I love get so worked up and frightened.

Everything they try seems to succeed.

That would be the crazy people.

As we, as awakened people, have to try and help in some way well of course this is exactly the problem like no one is really helping but the one that really got me because this is universal and i've and i've and i've adjusted my cultural trauma it's just like covid

with the the europe never got out of covet and to some degree neither did the united states people who are still mad about things who hate Musk, hate Trump.

They're the same people, you know, it's the same argument.

uh vax no vax lockdown no lockdown social distancing no no social distancing mask no mask

it's the same

people never got out of it

so it's just a replacement mask masked up oh there's tons of masked people everywhere so this came from beth and she is an expat in the uk

And what's interesting is here,

this is the

degree to which she has assimilated into this system.

And she says, I'm a dual U.S.

UK citizen, been in the UK for 15 years, my husband and British.

Honestly, I love the UK.

It's definitely my home.

And in spite of the growing dystopia, my situation is comfortable and good.

Here's my report.

Now remember, she likes it there.

Her situation is comfortable and good.

So she goes on, I saw the writing on the wall years ago and left social media entirely just to be safe.

I'm a major TERF, and I knew my views would get me in trouble if I didn't.

I have a skilled but blue-collar job, and basically everyone on the factory floor would agree with the no-agenda perspective.

A few are fans of Trump, others conservative, but hate his style.

I voted for.

I want to make sure that everyone out there knows that TERF, we haven't used that term for a while.

Trans-exclusionary, radical-feminist.

Yeah.

No trans women.

Yes.

No trans.

I think everyone knows what turf is, but okay.

I don't know.

No, that's good.

I voted for Bobby the Op because I'm a coward.

And this way, when I'm with someone with TDS, you could also say you're a libertarian.

I'm a coward.

This way, when I'm with someone with TDS, I can say things like, well, I never voted for him, but surely such and such policy might actually turn out to be good.

Remember, she's comfortable and loves her life.

Management is another story.

My boss thought Trump created NAFTA, and he's a big racist, of course.

I get a lot of comments from educated people who assume that I also have Trump derangement syndrome, which I do not.

Another thing I've heard multiple British people say is that they thought we were supposed to help others, but Trump only cares about himself and how they had to explain this to their children.

I live in Oxfordshire and work in an affluent village, but live in a very average town.

Nobody has stopped driving their Teslas.

Our friend group, bless them, are quite intelligent.

People who haven't got a clue about U.S.

politics.

One friend is still obsessed with Trump being a Russian asset and mentions it a lot.

Another friend thought that abolishing the Department of Education meant no more public schools in the whole country.

They seem to get most of their ideas about America from Reddit.

Of course, they still believe in safe and effective.

As for free speech arrests, they are both ignorant and dismissive.

It's not happening.

And even if it was, then people must have deserved it, seems to be the opinion.

Pretty grim.

The elder generation is split.

My husband's aunt, who is a lovely woman, is terrified by what she views as a rejection of the mechanisms which brought peace to post-war Europe.

Trump mates are sick to her stomach.

My lovely work mom, in the second half of her 70s, also hates Trump, but is disgusted by the way the country is going.

Namely, she doesn't feel safe in Reddingtown anymore due to dodgy Turkish barbers popping up everywhere and loads of men just hanging around.

Her daughter lives in Dover.

She tells me all the time how many boats of illegal migrants come in every week.

We all know we aren't allowed to talk about this stuff.

My own town is very average.

On Saturday, you'll see families and people of all walks of life in the open-air shopping center area.

But recently, I was in town on a Friday afternoon.

It was a different vibe.

Loads of men just hanging around.

My hairdresser told me about men harassing her young apprentices, 16 years old.

I hate this vibe.

Thanks for a great show, says Beth, who I will remind you: start off by saying, I love the UK.

My life is comfortable and good.

Beth, you need to reassess your life.

This is not comfortable and good.

This is the lobster getting boiled in the pot.

That's exactly right.

Yes, this is the slow

where you put it in and you turn the heat up.

And I realize, you know, just looking at all this nonsense of people arguing.

And you sent me a video this morning of Liberty Lockdown podcast of people arguing about Douglas Murray and Dave Smith and Joe Rogan and Ian, Ian, what's his name?

Ian.

I don't even know half of these people.

And I'm like,

I am so

happy.

And so, I'm really happy that we do the No Agenda Show under the constraints we have self-imposed on ourselves as it comes to expansion, growth, and finances, because we are the only ones who just have,

there's no reason for us to say anything but exactly what we feel.

I think everyone else is audience captured.

I think there's a huge fear of being deplatformed by the group, not by government.

By the group, by the group, whatever this group is.

By the group.

Yes.

We've talked about this before.

That's why I put the word internecine in there.

Yes, I even put that in the show notes so people can.

Let me see.

I wrote it down here.

Internecine, I-N-T-E-R-N-E-C-I-N-E

relating to or involving conflict within a group.

Oh, it comes from fought to the death.

Anyway,

there is a real problem going on everywhere.

And the United States

is not immune to it.

And I really, truly think that this is still COVID trauma, that people just want to fight with each other about something because we're still all mad.

We're all still, you and I aren't, but we're mad, we're hurt, we're angry, we feel discriminated, we feel making,

it doesn't matter what side you're on.

And President Trump just triggers it all time and time again.

He's very good at it.

And I think that he probably egged on this whole 420 martial law thing just to get people crazy.

He still seems to kind of be doing that stuff.

You know, there is a phenomenon.

We had that, now she broke.

This just came to mind.

Bill Ziff, one of the first and early billionaires I ever knew, ran to Davis.

How many do you know these days?

How many do you hang out with?

I don't hang out with anything.

Well, I hang out with him.

That was beside the point.

But Ziff, I used to hang out with Ziff a little bit.

But the thing about him is that he was always saying one thing and doing another in certain kinds of funny ways.

And somebody who really knew him well and worked for him forever during the early days of his publishing empire, he says that Ziff had this

sick way of

matching people up and putting people together that he knew would cause a conflict.

He seemed to, and he believed that Ziff thought it was fun.

It was like, he was like, just amused himself.

He's like, the king is, let's put these two people together and see what happens.

And it was, I think, from this extreme amount of wealth he had.

He was one of the richest men in the world at the time.

And you got,

you developed a screwball way of looking at things and the screwball way of acting.

It worked out, except for the people that were, you know, were placed in these situations where they'd always get in trouble.

And maybe Trump has got, maybe it's something to do with the wealth.

He's

really the only thing.

Oh, you think it's a billionaire thing?

I'm beginning to think it might be something because Trump is the only billion, true billionaire.

I mean, Vanderbilt was never president of the United States, and other super rich people never got that far because they never bothered.

It's too much work.

I can make a mess back here by signing checks.

But this idea of, you know, of just

doing little things and moving things around like a chess game and then and seeing what happened.

Just see what happens.

Oh, let's see what happens.

I know these two people don't get along.

I wonder if Joe works for Jim, if that would be really funny.

Oh, wait, what about if Jim worked for Joe?

That'd be even funnier.

Movement around.

I just get this sense that something like that might be going on by the basis of what you just said, which might be true.

Trump is triggering this, and he's doing it

in some conscious way on purpose.

Well, let's look at the next item here on the agenda, which is clearly an art-of-the-deal move, but we have to go back to three days ago when it looked like, it looked like, look, we had something on the table, we had papers, we were signing.

After months of delays, a minerals deal is closer than ever.

On Thursday, Ukraine said talks with the U.S.

delivered good results.

Just hours later, the two sides signed a so-called memorandum of intent.

I love this.

A memorandum of intent is,

I would say, completely worthless.

Yeah, I agree.

A memorandum of intent is the way to kind of put the negotiations on hold because you're going nowhere.

I'm going to get, I'm going to write a memo that we intend to, I don't know,

continue.

Continue, yes.

For the final agreement, the deal would give the U.S.

access to Ukraine's mineral wealth in return for billions in military aid.

Ukraine, for its part, wants strong security guarantees.

It sounds like

they came up with exactly the same deal.

Yeah, we'll protect our interests with some military stuff, and then Ukraine is yammering again.

But the process has been shaky.

A February signing fell through under chaotic circumstances.

Since then, Ukraine said that the terms have constantly changed.

Media reports said the US now has changed repayment demands from $300 to $100 billion.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration continued to face accusations of echoing Putin, creating unease among Ukraine officials.

Just days ago, the U.S.

envoy Steve Witkoff conveyed Moscow's proposal for a peace in exchange for five Ukrainian regions.

I believe that Mr.

Witkoff has taken on the strategy of the Russian side.

I think it is very dangerous.

Ukraine said it will not discuss territorial agreements before a ceasefire, a truce they want under U.S.

security guarantees.

But so far, it's not clear how the minerals deal would ensure Ukraine's security.

So I think they just redlined the original agreement and scratched out 300, said 100 billion.

Okay, that's our final, final offer.

And before we get to the next round, we have a little, little, little, little rest, a little pause.

It is Easter after all.

He has risen.

Tonight, in a surprise announcement,

Vladimir Putin says he's ordering a 30-hour Easter truce in the war in Ukraine.

The brief ceasefire coming one day after President Trump warns the U.S.

will walk away from stalled peace negotiations.

There isn't progress soon.

We're going to just take a pass, but hopefully we won't have to do that.

President Zelensky tonight is saying there's no trust in words coming from Moscow, but that Ukraine is open to U.S.

proposals for a 30-day ceasefire.

Another ceasefire.

So

he's rolling everything back, going back to a 30-day ceasefire.

And then, of course, we get the report that

everybody has been

talking about is where we're really at.

I think we're at the end of our road, people.

He's been pressing both Moscow and Kyiv for a truce.

But so far, Donald Trump has failed in his bid to secure a ceasefire in the Ukraine war.

On Friday, the U.S.

President reiterated that he wanted to clinch a deal quickly, but said that the U.S.

could ditch brokering further talks unless progress is made soon.

No specific number of days, but quickly, we want to get it done.

If for some reason one of the two parties makes it very difficult,

we're just going to say you're foolish, you're fools, you're horrible people, and we're going to just take a pass.

But hopefully we won't have to do that.

I'd like this take a pass.

That's how you talk about it.

They brought that.

I'm glad you got the take a pass thing.

You keep saying it.

Play this clip.

This is Ukraine, Trump and Rubio, and this is from PBS.

And I think

they're trying to give us a different perspective than reality here.

The latest on the international effort to secure a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.

As those negotiations have stalled, there is a new ultimatum from the Trump administration.

Earlier today, U.S.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio wrapped up a marathon series of talks in Paris with both Ukrainian and top European officials.

Rubio, on his way out, said the U.S.

may, quote, move on from trying to broker a peace deal if progress isn't made soon.

We're not going to continue with this endeavor for weeks and months on end.

So we need to determine very quickly now, and I'm talking about in a matter of days, whether or not this is doable

over the next few weeks.

If it is, we're in.

If it's not, then

we have other priorities to focus on as well.

In Washington, President Trump echoed that warning, but stopped short of saying he's ready to walk away.

He pushed back against the suggestion that Russia is taking advantage of his patience.

I know when people are playing us, and I know when they're not, and I have to see an enthusiasm to want to end it.

And I think I see that enthusiasm.

I think I see it from both sides.

Do you think Russia is playing?

But you're going to know soon.

Do you think Russia is playing you?

No, nobody's playing me.

I'm trying to help.

All of this unfolded as the war grinds on.

Russian missiles today rained down on the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv.

Officials say one person was killed and nearly 100 others were wounded.

All right, what's your take?

Well, they make it sound as though Rubio and Trump are at differing opinions of things and it's a conflict.

Oh, really?

I didn't get that at all.

I thought, well,

I've been listening to a lot of these NPR PBS things, and they've been trying to promote that idea.

And I think it was kind of promoted in there, but I don't see it because Trump saying, you know,

we're out of here.

Sounds pretty much what Rubio says.

I have my favorite Canadian, Andrew Rasoulis,

with his analysis.

And I've played him before.

Andrew Rasoulis, he's a former war guy in Canada.

Now he's a consultant.

He's a war guy.

He knows war.

You like him.

When you hear him, you'll remember.

What do you make of the news that the U.S.

may walk away from the peace talks if it's not possible to imminently or quickly end the war in Ukraine?

It's a very important development, but we have to put it in context.

What happened Thursday?

Rubio, on his way out to the airport, said, after having that meeting in Paris, which included the Americans, the Europeans, and the Ukrainians.

And he said, you know, if we're not going to get a deal soon, we're walking away.

So why did he say that?

Well, at that meeting, Vitkov, who was on the American delegation, has, and he's

Trump's point person on this, basically went to Russia, went or talked to Ukrainians, talked to the Europeans, and put together what he believes is the best possible deal for a ceasefire, a comprehensive ceasefire.

And it includes the following.

One, the Russians keep all the territory they currently hold militarily.

Two, the Ukrainians do not get NATO.

Three, there are sanctions relief put in place for Russia, but Ukraine remains sovereign.

So there was a lot of pushback from the Ukrainians and the Europeans to this plan saying that it caters too much to the Russians.

The American position is it reflects battlefield reality.

And that's where we're at.

Yeah,

they don't want that.

The Europeans want war.

They don't want to stop.

They're all in on this, the way I see it.

And the Canadians and the Australians.

So what happens if the U.S.

walks?

Donald Trump said that ending this war would be the feather in his cap when it comes to foreign policy.

Really,

did he actually say that?

Hey, this will be the feather in my cap.

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

A feat that he wanted to accomplish.

If he is out and his negotiations...

Oh, he promised he would end it within 24 hours.

That's what he actually said.

But he was being

ironic.

Day one.

Yeah, day one.

What does this mean?

Let me just say there's a meeting in London next week with the same people, same parties.

We will see what happens there.

It's the last ditch.

And April 30th is 100 days anniversary of the America, of Trump's presidency.

We still have that time, I believe, to secure a deal.

Having said that, assuming there's no deal, to answer your question, it would certainly favor the Russians.

The Ukrainians would have to rely solely on the Europeans and Canada, to what degree, on Australia.

But basically, they could not get the Patriot missile systems.

They could not get the intelligence required.

Russia would increase the momentum it has already on the battlefield, which is to their advantage.

They would increase it even furthermore.

And basically, the Ukrainians would be left with the Europeans and Canadians to sort it out themselves.

Not a very good position.

And then, of course, can the EU, can Europe and Canada and Australia, can they fill the gap left by those turncoat Americans?

Is this enough?

Canadians, Europeans, some other international allies, can they fill that void if the U.S.

steps away in terms of that key military support?

No, they cannot.

They can sustain the Ukrainians in a defensive mode for a while while the Ukrainians try to wear down the Russians and secure a better deal than they're getting now.

That is not a highly likely outcome because also, I repeat, the Americans have the Patriot missile systems, nobody else has them, and the Ukrainians need them for air defense.

And two, it's the intelligence.

Americans provide Ukrainians with targeting information that only the Americans can provide.

So finally, then,

what was really needed has already happened.

The global stage has already changed

seemingly irreversibly and back to the old ways of the old days, of the boomer days.

What is the biggest geopolitical concern about Russia and some of its allies like China, like North Korea, now that U.S.

has assumed this position?

Well, we're very clearly beyond the liberal rules-based order of 1991 or 1945, pick your year.

We are back to a much more traditional realpolitik, power politics, international system in which the great powers compete against each other, sometimes politically, economically, and militarily when things come to that point.

It's all a question of equilibrium and balance of power.

And basically, the big boys set the stage and the smaller, weaker powers have to adjust to that reality.

That, I'm afraid, is the new reality that we're going into.

You,

that's it.

I think that's it.

Well, I have a different take on this.

What could possibly happen if they

go along with Trump,

which they should and get get this over with, but they just seem reluctant, like you say.

Is that the Europeans can do more than

just be defensive?

They can put

their boots on the ground in Ukraine.

You think they want to form an army anyway?

Let's put some German and French.

The French have been promising troops.

Macron, you know, and his

wife.

Put the French troops in there, and then the Germans can put their troops in there.

Everyone can just load up, and so the Ukrainians can have some backup, and then they can drag this thing out of the way.

And how do you think that's going to work out when you get dead German, French, and British kids coming home in body bags?

How's that going to work out in Europe?

That's going to be...

It's going to make they're going to twist it in such a way that look at what these Russians have been doing to our kids.

They're going to do what they always do.

They make it look like, oh, this is terrible.

Now we need revenge for the dead kids.

It's doable.

They want to do it.

They want to.

Is that a better outcome?

No, it's not a better outcome.

It's going to be a disaster, but that's what they want to do, and there's nothing to stop it.

But that's what I said.

They want war.

We're saying that.

Yeah, no, you said that as the premise, and I'm just saying here's how it's going to happen.

Oh, I sure hope not.

Well, if they don't go along with Trump, that's exactly where it's headed.

There's no other way.

Well, maybe.

Because if you're telling me you're over there, or were, and you're telling, you know, everyone's thinking the Russians are going to march in and take over all of Europe any minute now.

We got to stop them somewhere.

We got to go to Ukraine to do it.

People send our boys there.

People are putting go bags together, man, with band-aids.

Yes, go bags.

With masks.

That's going to do it.

That'll do the trick.

And

long-wave radio receivers so they can get the BBC World Service.

It's pathetic.

It's so crazy that people can't see what is going on, how stupid this whole thing is.

And they've bought it hook, line, and sinker.

They really have.

In general, the majority, not the no-agenda people.

They're sitting there going, This is bull crap.

But meanwhile, suit up.

You know?

Ah.

I really, I really, I felt very poorly most of the time in Europe.

Just I can feel

poorly.

So poorly.

People, you can tell that people, again, whenever I...

To top it off, they gave you a cold.

COVID.

They gave me COVID, man.

It's just like, don't you see that you've got to stop this nonsense?

And they're still pushing climate change

and the digital ID

and more taxes and federal tax.

Carbon taxes.

That's no.

Yes, carbon taxes.

Never leave that out of the picture.

That's all.

Climate, climate change taxes.

Just more and more and more and more.

In fact, what was I reading?

This was a good one.

Big,

where did this come from?

Some university.

That man's best friend may be nature's worst enemy.

Study on pet dog finds.

So dogs apparently are the worst thing for climate.

Oh, yes, this has been going, this has been for a few weeks now, this anti-dog

thing, which I think is actually Muslim-based.

No, I think it's tax-based because people are sending me a lot of people.

You tax dogs?

Yes, you have to pay a dog tax.

Of course.

That's perfect.

They're not going to come and kill Fido.

They're going to send you a bill.

You know how many dogs there are?

That's a bonanza.

And people will do anything for their animals.

Not for their kids.

Suit them up, ship them off to Ukraine.

But don't touch my dog.

I'll pay the fine.

Yeah.

Dog waste contributes to pollution in waterways, inhibits plant growth.

Okay.

No, I think the dog thing, I think, is

a carbon tax gambit, which makes sense to me.

It could be.

Yeah, I think so.

So anyway, yes, I felt just very poorly because I know the people aren't stupid, but they're all going along to get along.

I don't want to be unpopular.

You know, they're changing the name of the school, Michel de Rauter.

Now, you don't know Michel de Rauter, but he traveled the world.

He traveled the world when he was 12 years old.

And then when the British Army, the Armada, the British Navy.

Famous Dutch kid.

Famous Dutch kid.

And then when the British Navy was sailing over to Holland

to basically capture the whole country, he really started up the Dutch Navy, the Marines, went over, went out there, they sailed out, and they kicked the British back.

Well, now that school has to change its name to be more inclusive.

Because, you know,

it doesn't represent our society anymore.

It's had that name for, I don't know, 100 years.

So it's the exact, we've seen this template.

They just found a different George Floyd moment.

And so they want to change the name of the school.

And, you know, they go out there, interview the parents.

Oh, yes, I think we should change the name of this school because it really needs to be more inclusive.

It's not of this time anymore.

It's an old name.

It's not not good.

And then the interviewer says, so what did Mikhail Deraito do?

You should ask someone who knows more about history.

I don't really know.

They're afraid.

They're afraid of being ostracized.

And that's certainly the Dutch way, but I think it's also a bit of the European way.

Oh, we didn't know.

Virhabinus Nischkevoos.

We didn't know.

No, no.

They need to do something.

But they need somebody.

They need, well, they need a Donald Trump.

Ultimately, that's why they hate him, because they want him.

They want someone like that to stand up and say no, to be just that guy.

That's the only thing I can make of it.

Well, I think you're probably right.

Yeah, and I'm sad.

I'm sad for Europe.

I told Kevin, so you better put a ring on it, man.

She's going to come over and you're going to get left behind.

Yes, I'm sorry.

A couple of Trump clips.

This is what's going on over here when it comes to Trump.

This is a Trump loyalist clip.

This is

the latest of the complaining going on on PBS.

President Trump today advanced his plans to make it easier to fire tens of thousands of federal workers.

On social media, he said he would move forward with a rule previously known as Schedule F, which the administration said, quote, will allow agencies to quickly remove employees from critical positions who engage in misconduct, perform poorly, or undermine the democratic process by intentionally subverting presidential directives.

Our White House correspondent, Laura Baron-Lopez, joins us now.

Laura, President Trump promised that he would do this.

So what does this do and how many workers would this affect?

So Schedule F changes the job classification of nonpartisan federal workers, designating them as political appointees.

And so bottom line, it makes it easier for the president to fire anyone that he considers disloyal and replace them with complete loyalists to his cause and to his agenda.

Now, Star Up was a part of the Project 2025 blueprint from the Heritage Foundation, and OMB Director Russ Vogt was key in drafting this during the first administration, but they were not able to implement it during the first administration.

I love the term blueprint.

This is good.

I read the document.

It was a chat GPT embellished piece of crap,

way too long, single-spaced, unnecessary, long bios of everybody.

It was very egotistical.

It had some things in there, like get rid of the Department of Education.

I think you could find that in other documents.

But it was far from a blueprint.

Yeah, blueprint's actually the simplistic

nuts and bolts.

His bolt goes here.

Yeah, this law, we're coming back to this thesis.

I mean, they have these memes they like to throw throw at Trump and loyalists.

He's loyalists.

In other words, you've got people working against you and your project,

and you want to get rid of them.

I don't see why

how is that different than any other president or any other person running a company or running a government agency or being the president or anything else?

You don't want people working against you.

No.

So why wouldn't you want to get rid of them?

Oh, because they're bringing in loyalists.

Okay, well.

Because

they're triggering internal conflicts of their listeners.

Like, oh, well, imagine if just someone could come and just fire me for not doing my job.

I'm telling you, this is all this all socialist

nonsense.

This Schedule F, I mean,

that was a masterstroke.

Didn't he implement that in his first administration?

Well, he tried.

Well, no, but I thought the law got passed or something was put through kind of like as a

something that never really got turned back.

No one changed it.

It was just sitting there ready to be implemented.

Well, it looks like that's what they're up to, and it got all these people in a tizzy.

So here's the second part of this.

And Russ Vote said throughout the campaign that they wanted to traumatize federal workers.

And the White House estimates that this will impact some 50,000 federal workers that could be laid off.

But government experts say that that's probably a minimum.

So, what happens next?

And has there been, I imagine, pushback to this?

There has been pushback.

But so, first, what happens is a White House official said that agencies have until April 20th to hand them the lists of who they think should be reclassified in their agencies.

But Everett Kelly, the president of the American Federation of Government Employees, said that this is another in a series of deliberate moves by this administration to corrupt the federal government and replace qualified public servants with political cronies.

Correctly says that they are going to sue save the administration, and they are the largest union representing federal workers.

So, this is part of a much bigger picture of Trump's war with the federal government.

That is, it is.

Well, now we have a war with the federal government.

Oh, this is everything is a war.

Everything is a war.

Blueprint, playbook, war.

That is.

It is.

And so, this all comes as President Trump and Elon Musk's team have instituted firings across the board.

Yesterday, the Trump administration moved to fire some 1,500 employees at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

That's most of the agency, William.

And today, a federal judge paused those firings, calling it deeply concerning that the firings violated an earlier injunction.

Now, when you, based on our reporting as well as a New York Times analysis, when you zoom out, essentially there are more than 132,000 workers that have either been fired or pressured to take buyouts since Trump has taken office.

We spoke to Don Moynihan, a public policy professor at University of Michigan, who said that this essentially defeats the purpose, this Schedule F of a nonpartisan civil service.

He said that in the end goal, this is about imposing loyalty tests and that targeting bureaucracy in this way is a hallmark trait of authoritarian regimes.

Practically, it could also mean that there's some favoritism that is instituted when it comes to who gets government contracts.

Oh, oh, there it is.

It's about the government contracts.

And that's where Elon comes back into play.

Yeah, it's about the government contracts.

It's about the money.

It's about the free money.

It's really what it's about.

It's not about partisanship or,

I mean, the idea, oh, it's the hallmark of authoritarian governments.

This is the way Chicago has been run forever.

Forever.

Yeah,

that's the way it goes.

Everything's polished.

Yeah.

Well, on that, here's a clip about Elon and government contracts.

SpaceX is fronting a bid to build President Trump's proposed Golden Dome Missile Defense System, a satellite-based shield designed to detect and stop long-range attacks.

The company is working with Palantir and drone maker Andaril on a concept that would launch hundreds of satellites into low Earth orbit to track threats in real time.

Another fleet, about 200 satellites, would carry strike capabilities like missiles or directed energy weapons.

Hey, you don't hear that very often these days.

Directed energy weapons.

How you laughed at me about my directed energy weapons.

SpaceX is leading the custody layer, satellites that track incoming threats in real time.

Early design costs are estimated at $6 to $10 billion.

Instead of the government owning the system, SpaceX is pitching a subscription model.

I love this.

Yeah, President Trump, you're behind on your monthly payment.

Do you need a payment plan?

Because we have to turn you off.

You know, you opted for the subscription service.

The Pentagon would pay for access, similar to a service, an approach that could speed up development, but raises questions about logic.

Hold on, stop.

I don't know how that could speed up development.

Defense as a service.

We have software as a service.

Yes, DAS, yes.

DAS,

software as a service.

Give me a break.

I think it's great.

Defense as a service.

Yes, John and I, we are consultants in the DOS

space.

In the DOS space, space, space,

space, DOS space.

And we can recommend the right things for you.

You need a subscription to this, you need a subscription to Palantir.

Now, Palantir has many sub-subscriptions.

It's all part of DOS.

I mean, you want the drones?

On-demand drones.

On-demand.

Just whenever you want them, you just insert a quarter and the drones fly.

Do you agree?

Drones on demand.

That could speed up development, but raises questions about long-term control and oversight?

Over 180 companies have shown interest, including Lockheed, Boeing, and Northrop.

But SpaceX's existing satellite network and launch capability may give it a head start.

Yeah, no kidding.

I love the whole idea.

And we can also, you know, other countries, you want a subscription to our service?

Yeah, that's great.

You pay monthly.

Exactly the same as Debul.

law yeah you pay monthly and uh and you know but and of course you know uh i'm sorry no war uh from midnight to three we're doing upgrades

the system will be down

404 little page uh sorry we're we're under uh under maintenance right now no can't uh can't do it yeah it's great this is great i'm very excited about these things

okay firings now this is interesting because at at no point did the president actually say he wanted to or he would fire

Fed, is it president?

Jerome Powell, is it the Fed president of the Federal Reserve?

Head.

Head.

I'm at the head of the Federal Reserve.

The Fed head.

He's too late and always wrong.

That's how President Trump characterized the head of the U.S.

Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell.

The U.S.

president, unhappy with Powell, threatened to fire him.

Oh, if I want him out, he'll be out of there real fast, believe me.

No, he did not say he was going to fire him.

He said he'll be out of there real fast.

Everyone's saying that he threatened to fire him, but he did not say that.

And I don't think he has to say that, but that's how it's been taken.

To fire him.

Oh, if I want him out, he'll be out of there real fast, believe me.

Trump criticized the Fed's chair for not cutting the U.S.

interest rate, which is at more than 4%, unlike the European Central Bank, which cut theirs.

We have a Federal Reserve chairman that is playing politics, somebody somebody that I've never been very fond of actually.

But he's playing politics.

Interest rates should be down now.

They should be coming down.

In Europe, as you know, they reduced them I guess seven times through the United States.

On Wednesday, Jerome Powell suggested that it was Trump's tariffs which were causing economic uncertainty and preventing the Federal Reserve from lowering the rate.

The administration is, as I mentioned in my remarks, is implementing significant policy changes, and particularly trade now is the focus.

And the effects of that are likely to move us away from our goals.

So unemployment is likely to go up as the economy slows in all likelihood, and inflation is likely to go up as tariffs find their way.

But can Donald Trump put an early end to Powell's mandate like he says he can?

Many legal experts believe this would be difficult.

The institution is supposed to be independent of the US Administration, but because a court hasn't ruled on the matter before, no one can say for certain what would happen.

And President Trump has been defying many political norms since returning to office in January.

As for Powell, he said he would complete his term until 2026 and would not resign if asked to do so by the president.

Yeah, but we need to get those interest rates down for the refi in 2025.

So, you know, but the Federal Reserve is, you know, this is the big joke.

This Federal Reserve has never been,

they've always been off.

Their timing has sucked.

It's never been right.

No.

But I don't think changing it out is going to make any difference.

No, it's not going to change anything.

It's just a bit of a change.

You know what we need?

We need the Mar-a-Lago Accords.

This is what has to happen.

That'll put the pressure on.

And Fifi,

Fifi Lagarde over there in the EU, the European Central Bank, she is the Jay Powell of Europe.

She's getting a little nervous.

You know, she presents, so they lowered the interest rate.

Now they're down to 2.25%, I believe.

just in time to

pour on some more debt.

And she I think the Mar-a-Lago Accords are coming, and I think the stable coin is on its way, because she gave a very nervous response about stablecoin.

On the issue of stablecoins, you know that we have regulation in place.

It's called MICAR.

It is effective.

It's currently under review and consultation for possible improvements.

And I'm delighted that this is the case because we are facing

a constant evolution of those those digital payments, of those cross-border payments, of

those stable coins, which I would put in a very separate category from the cryptos.

Yeah, because they're dollars, that's why.

Crypto assets, or however you want to call them.

The stable coins are a different animal.

And clearly, having a good, solid regulation that constitutes the framework within which they can operate, I think is paramount and has been understood by the European Union, by the Commission's, by various authorities in charge of those matters, and

will be reviewed in order to make sure that it procures a safe harbour for those initiatives.

But let me take the opportunity of this to acknowledge that, for the first time in our monetary policy statement, we refer to the digital euro.

That should be a clear signal that not only do we stand ready and do the hard work that is incumbent upon us, but it also acknowledges the fact that other European authorities are hopefully going to accelerate the pace at which we can deliver.

I think she's afraid that

the stablecoin is going to flood her market.

What stable coin are we talking about?

Any stable coin will be an American dollar-backed stablecoin.

She doesn't want people using stablecoins.

She's like, but but but we've got the digital euro coming.

We've got our CBDC.

This is what we want.

We don't want your stablecoins.

Well, that's why she's going to be.

Well, I don't blame her.

No, of course not.

We have very, we'll have regulations about that stuff.

No stable coin for you.

Don't use stablecoin, people.

Don't use it.

It's no good.

You want our digital Euro.

God.

No cryptos.

It's a different animal from the crypt.

The cryptos.

The cryptos.

It's the trillion-dollar coin, John.

It's coming.

The trillion-dollar coin is the answer.

It is the answer.

It always is.

And And the Simpsons predicted it, so you know it's got to happen eventually.

I've got an off-beat clip just to take a kind of a break.

This is a very strange clip about something that I thought was

probably the most underreported story.

Well, it's totally just underreported.

But it's also the most interesting story I think came out all week.

And you'd think they would have covered it on these mornings, Sunday morning shows, because it's a major event.

This is the Wisconsin story.

And in another court ruling over the power of the executive branch in Wisconsin today, the state Supreme Court upheld a very unique partial veto power that the governor has.

Governor Tony Evers used that power back in 2023 to lock in a school funding increase for the next 400 years.

At the heart of the case was Evers' ability to veto even the tiniest parts of a bill to dramatically alter its meaning?

By striking individual words and numbers in the legislation, he approved more school revenue increases until literally the year 24-25.

Wisconsin Supreme Court has been embroiled in national politics recently, with Elon Musk pouring millions into a race to back a conservative judge who lost.

It was the most expensive judicial contest in American history.

So

you can literally stripe away the word like

not.

Not.

You can take away,

should not exceed, and then you just take away the word not, and it should exceed.

Yes.

Wow.

And is this a liberal or conservative governor?

He's, I believe he's a liberal governor, but it was the liberal Supreme Court, the one that Musk tried to get that other guy into, and he couldn't do it,

that allowed this to happen because he had done it anyway.

He was like,

this is taking line item veto, which has been talked about forever.

To an extreme.

To an extreme, and they can't seem to implement it.

This is not line item veto.

This is word veto.

Yes, word veto.

So you can basically,

and as a writer, I can assure you that you can rewrite anything that means just the opposite.

Easily.

Yeah, easily by just taking words out.

That's great.

And

this is the the most phenomenal story.

And it also sets a precedent, at least at one state level, that really, I would, this is something to keep an eye on.

Wow.

So he managed to get school funding for 400 years somehow by dicking around with a bill.

That's great.

If you want to take this word out, you know, if you took this word out.

States' rights, baby.

States' rights.

Yeah, that's good.

Oh, Wisconsin should do whatever they want to do.

That's beyond states' rights.

They should do whatever they want to do.

If that's in, if they can do that, and they need to change their constitution.

That's fantastic.

That's why America is so fun.

We're exciting.

We have crazy stuff that happens.

So, talk about crazy stuff.

I do have some Brooks and K part

clips, which I have not done for weeks.

Okay.

Because of GG.

Okay.

Brooks

part, the show that literally no one else but you watches.

It's not a show.

What is it then?

What do you mean?

It's a segment on the Friday version of the PBS News Zone.

You're able to get four clips out of a segment of a show?

That's unbelievable.

Yes, I have the, we're starting with the

BBC,

BNC.

This would be, I think the one I start with is, yeah,

Brooks nuts.

You offered a prescription, David, in your column in the New York Times for this moment that we are in, and you called for a civic uprising.

You said in this moment, stop, stop, stop, stop.

Civic uprising?

This is not the right one?

No, that's part of the series of nuts.

The one we really want, I'm sorry.

This is BNC Brooks.

Christ.

Christ Des?

Christ Desk.

Crisis, crisis.

Brooks crisis.

It says crisis.

I want to talk about President Trump and the courts.

I mean, the president has wielded his authority in,

I think, by any measure, in an extraordinary way, slashing budgets and jobs across the federal government, targeting billions of dollars at colleges and universities, threatening major law firms on immigration.

We've all been following that.

remarkable process.

But the courts, David, in many instances, have stood up to the president.

Do you think that they are doing their appropriate role of check and balance?

Yeah, I think they are.

The question is whether Trump pays any attention to the courts.

And so to me, watching the Trump administration is just the administration say, you know, we've decided stoplights don't apply to us.

Yellow lines down the middle don't apply.

We're just going to roll over it.

And you stop us.

And when you think constitutional crisis, you think like two sides facing off on the barricades.

But I've actually lived through a constitutional crisis.

When I was at the Wall Street Journal, I covered the end of the Soviet Union.

Whoa, that was a constitutional crisis, okay.

And it was obviously very different in many ways.

But one thing was interesting, the mental adjustment I had to make.

When I went to the Soviet Union.

The mental adjustment.

Yeah, at the very end.

Because I grew up in a country where I assume if a law is passed, then things will change.

It will be enforced, and it'll be a reality on the ground.

But at the very end of the Soviet Union, they would pass law after law, and nothing happened.

Nobody bothered to enforce it.

It never had any implementation.

So the laws were fictional because people had lost faith in the laws, lost faith in the whole system.

And so what happens now is not that you get this big conflict, but Trump just says, we're going to arrest a guy who we have no due process.

And there's like no conversation.

It just happens.

And nobody's there to stop it because famously the judiciary doesn't have an army.

Right.

Now, is he referring to when President Biden

just said, you know, we're not going to adhere to the laws of immigration?

Is that what he's talking about?

Because that sounds awfully familiar.

Or Biden refusing to

suspend the freebie money for the people who took out student loans and the Supreme Court told him not to?

Is he talking about that?

I guess.

But, you know, the Supreme Court clearly needs guns.

But weapons.

A couple of things.

Couple of things.

Of course, when I started doing these clips, I always get the

same basic complaint.

Yeah,

don't give your money to PBS.

That's what I'm saying.

Okay, well, that's at the top of the list.

Don't give your money to PBS.

Where is somebody that can defend Trump's policies as a point

of interest as opposed to two guys who hate Trump?

Brooks, who's supposedly a conservative, much of the way like that crackpot Jennifer Rubin, who is at the Washington Post, called herself a conservative blogger.

She's a liberal nut.

And Brooks is not.

Where's Ann Coulter?

That's a good question.

Where is Ann Coulter?

I don't know.

They could put anybody in there to have a counterpoint.

It should be point, counterpoint.

Not two guys that both hate Trump.

Brooks hates Trump, and K-Part really hates Trump.

I guess maybe that's the difference.

One hates Trump more than the other.

But they know their audience.

They don't want anyone defending him.

They want Moore.

Moore.

Pilot on.

He's no good.

I'm getting mad.

So the other thing is he went through a constitutional crisis by visiting Russia.

Yes, it was very hard.

And by the way, the Soviet Union was always run with a bunch of laws that were never enforced.

They were there for the purposes of enforcing when needed.

That was their idea.

My favorite thing, I went there before the fall of communism.

I was in

the Soviet Union and visited.

And my favorite, and there's all these laws they have.

You can't do anything.

If they wanted to rest you, they'd find a million things that you did wrong.

And my favorite one was the

you can't take money out.

You can't take the ruble

outside of the country.

It has to stay inside.

I still have rubles in my money.

I know everybody took them out of the country.

The point is, is that they could arrest you, but you're not supposed to take rubles outside of the country.

Technically, just outside of the airport, there's some point where you're just outside the airport is considered not in the country.

And that's where they store the carts for the airport, you know, the luggage carts.

And to get one of the carts, you have to use a ruble.

Yeah.

So to use a cart, you have to break the law.

Well, when I was in Russia, Soviet Union, before the wall came down, they told me, whatever you do, don't insult the Kremlin.

So Sebastian Bach and I, Sebastian of Skid Row, we went and we were drinking vodka in Red Square at 3 a.m.

and we were trading t-shirts for some of those cool Russian furry hats.

We didn't get arrested.

We were there with Ozzy.

But you could have been.

Could have been.

Yeah, you're not supposed to do any buying or selling or anything during that era.

I was told that

everything's

under the table.

So I picked up a couple of Russian watches that

had Yuri Gagarin on the collectible time.

Collectibles.

Total collectible.

Yeah.

Do you have any?

And so they were, I forget, some guy comes up to me, would you like to buy a watch?

And I was told they were going to be trying to sell me these watches, but they're illegal to buy.

Yes.

So I said, yeah, sure.

And so I gave him the,

I gave him whatever it was.

And

I looked at the watch.

And as I looked, I looked at the watch.

And I looked up, the guy was disappeared.

And he was just like, I've never seen anyone vanish in thin air like this.

The other thing that was notable when I was there was they did, this was the beginning of the end, where they would allow these

some vendors around

the Kremlin.

They had these little shops that would sell

approved

souvenirs.

And so you could buy like a shirt.

I had bought a, this is during Paris Troika, and I actually bought a Paris Troika, a t-shirt.

And

the thing, the rule was: if the shirt cost five rubles and 50 copecs or whatever it was, I can't remember what this, the sensor called,

you had to pay exactly that amount because they won't, they can't make change.

They can't make change.

Right.

They can't, they can't.

It was against the law to make change, and it was also against the law to overpay.

So you couldn't give them six and say, keep the

change.

It was nuts.

And so this is Brooks' example

of going through a constitutional crisis.

This guy is so full of it, it's an embarrassment.

Let's go to clip two.

I'm sorry.

Would this be nuts?

Nuts one?

No, no.

The second part is K-part's response.

This is the BNC K-part follow-up to what Brooks said so we can get the debate going.

Oh, yes, here we go.

Jonathan, what do you think about that?

I mean, we had Georgetown Law Professor Steve Laddock on the show.

He says we're not quite there yet because the Trump administration has not yet formally blown through, overtly ignored a direct court order yet.

But we also heard from the League of Women Voters, the nonpartisan organization who this week, I'd like to read you this quote,

who walked away from managing the elections because it was so rigged and stupid.

They said, quote, it has now been 87 days since the start of the Trump administration, from the flagrant disregard for congressional authority and governmental checks and balances balances to defying Supreme Court orders to bring Kilmar Obrego-Garcia back home, one thing is abundantly clear.

Our country is in a constitutional crisis.

Bum, bum, bum, bum.

Where do you come down on that?

I am glad you read that because I was shaking, I was nodding in agreement with the League of Women Voters.

How can you say that the president hasn't defied court orders?

You've got Judge Boesberg, who is threatening to, says yesterday that there's there's probable cause to charge the government or lawyers arguing on behalf of the government with criminal contempt.

Why?

Why?

Why?

Because the president

of the United States and his administration ignored his order to not deport those folks to El Salvador.

So I know there are these formal definitions of what a constitutional crisis is, but from where I sit in my schoolhouse rock knowledge of how our government is supposed to work, we We are in one.

We have a president of the United States who, on a daily basis, blows past the guardrails, pushes as far as he can get to test the system.

And what has heartened me this week is hearing from Judge Bozberg

and the judge who ruled yesterday in that beautiful seven-page opinion, where they are not just saying this isn't the right thing to do, they are pushing back just as aggressively from their respective federal benches.

And I think

we will be better for it.

I read that opinion, and indeed.

Beautiful.

Yum.

Those seven pages were just so beautiful.

That guy is under investigation.

No one mentions this.

He's under investigation, that judge.

Yeah, Bozberg.

Yeah.

Yeah, no one mentions that.

Okay.

But I mean, what really constitutes a constitutional crisis i mean if the supreme court says you can't do that and the president does it is that by definition a constitutional crisis no none of this is that these people are insane they just look they like the term okay they like the term because that that then it can easily devolve into the concept of a threat to democracy well is something they came up with and they love it yeah

and so they just want to keep harping on it threat to democracy well if you use their standards, this show, this very show, has been constitutional crisis many times.

Just because

it's a big threat to democracy.

By their definition, because the threat to democracy is a threat to the Democrat Party, is what they mean.

So what happens?

This is a question.

This is a constitutional question.

So

if the president ignores a court decision or court decision.

You mean like Biden did?

Yes.

What happens?

What does the Constitution say?

What is supposed to happen?

What's supposed to happen is you impeach the president.

Ah.

Okay.

Which they'll do as soon as they get back

once the Democrats get to.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's unlikely President,

if they lose the House and the Senate or either one or the House in particular,

it's sure to be an impeachment.

He'll never be able to do that.

It has to be the House.

Yeah, the House is the one that initiates the House.

Yeah, they'll impeach him for the third time.

Nothing will come of it because you can't get that many senators.

You have to have 60 Senators.

No, no, no.

It's just.

No, it's 75.

I think you have to 75%.

Right.

Then that will be the whole circus all over again.

And then after that, in 2028, the show ends because I can't do it anymore.

I can't.

I can't.

It would be too much.

I can't take it.

Exactly.

So, this Brooks is off the rails to the point where now he sounds more like a Democrat than ever.

And now he's actually part of the idea of protesting in the streets because it's gotten so bad with Trump.

Pitchforks.

Let's go, people.

Let's go.

It's so bad.

It's so bad.

I don't know if you look out your window right now, you probably see people running up and down the street with their hair on fire.

I see nothing but pickup trucks with Confederate flags around here, John.

Everybody in Fredericksburg is happy.

They're happy.

The funny thing is, I'm not seeing anything different here in the Berkeley area, let alone if I drove past the Tesla place again with a thousand Teslas surrounding it.

There's not one.

I haven't seen one damaged Tesla or anything in between.

So the whole thing is something of a farce.

But let's listen to what Brooks believes should happen.

You offered a prescription, David, in your column in the New York Times for this moment that we are in, and you called for a civic uprising.

You said in this column, I want to read a bit of this, saying that the attacks that we've seen on institutions, quote, are not separate battles.

This is a simple effort to undo the parts of the civilizational order that might restrain Trump's acquisition of power.

So how would that civic uprising form?

Yeah, the core argument is that Trump is really about amassing power, and anything that might potentially restrain his power, he will destroy.

And that includes the court court systems, and anything part of that that livens humanity includes the universities, the scientific community, the truth, the media.

And so far we've responded to all these things, NATO and in separate lanes.

We think the Fed is different than NATO, which is different from the universities.

But my point is, this is all one thing.

And if institutions and even sectors try to respond to this individually, they're doomed.

Even Harvard, with $52 billion in this endowment, you can't do it alone.

Though that was a signal moment.

That was a crucial turning point because it changed the minds of everybody in every university I've talked to since then.

So really?

Yeah.

Post-Harvard, they brought it up.

A lot of them beforehand were like, well, Columbia made a deal.

Maybe that's right for us.

Once Harvard came out,

I talked to a couple of university presidents who said, oh, this is where we need to be.

Because

the Trump administration made it impossible for Harvard not to say no.

And that's what we're dealing with here.

And so the point I tried to make is all these different sectors have to get together and form one big civic movement.

And it can't be political.

It's not Democrats versus Republicans.

It's not left versus right.

It's institutions versus the destruction of our institutions of civilization.

Oh, institutions of civilization?

Yeah.

Well, this is what they're saying in Europe.

He's destroying the institutions of civilization.

Of civilization.

Oh, man.

You know,

the other thing they're saying in Europe is America is right now in the middle of a revolution.

And that is true.

That is exactly what's happening.

We are in the middle of a revolution breaking down stupid stuff that we all somehow were told to believe that this is how it goes.

This is just this is what it is.

You don't fire government workers.

Keep everything going.

Just go along to keep going along.

Keep along.

It's all good.

And no,

no, it's stopping.

Yeah.

And so these don't get that part.

So these, these guys think that they, okay, well, maybe it's the Bernie and AOC crowd.

Maybe you can arm them.

Yeah.

Can you imagine?

No,

i can't it was a good thread that i put up on uh

on x

formerly known as twitter um

that somebody had posted a big protest in england uh pro-trans

oh

and so somebody had collected gone to the thing and collected all these pictures of the signage And it's frightening.

It's so, so off the sk off the, it's unbelievable.

People should try to track that down.

And by the way, I do need more followers, the real Dvorak on Twitter.

You're never,

it's never going to happen.

I have the same thing.

Like, I'm stuck forever at 90% of the time.

This is because before Elon got in there, they put, I'm sure they have limits.

They actually gave a limit.

If this guy goes beyond this number, no.

Yeah, that's me.

Yeah, I think it is you.

I think, and me for sure, because I get to 102,000.4

and it stops

or goes down.

I'm down to 102.2.

I should be at a million.

Okay, I'm looking at this thread now.

Here's a sign.

I will make you listen.

Trans women are women.

Trans men are men.

If you don't like that, go shit somewhere else.

Okay.

F the system, C-I-S-T-E-M.

Transphrobe, do-it-yourself lobotomy, as a guy poking his eye out with a knife.

Okay.

Babies for trans rights.

Oh, that's a nice one.

It's not radical to remove rights.

Transphobes are the dangerous minority.

You ruled for discrimination, violence, murder, sexual assault, harassment of an innocent minority.

Eat the gender binary.

Oh, that's a good one.

Eat the gender binary is a good one.

Eat the gender binary.

You know, this is in England.

This is in the UK

where these signs are cropping.

When did they become so nausea?

With a fury.

Yeah, but it's not trans, John.

It's trans Maoism.

It's a political thing.

It has nothing to do with people who are trans or whatever.

It's political.

This is a political movement of very unhappy people who have been hypnotized by COVID.

On to clip two.

And if you look down through history, there have been social movements, these kinds of civic uprisings, that have succeeded.

They've banded together across sectors.

They have a clear, simple message that appeals to a lot of different people.

They use things like lawsuits,

protests, boycotts, all sorts of things.

Strikes, anything they can do.

But basically,

shouldn't Brooks get out on front?

Should he be the first on the barricade?

Come on, everybody, follow me.

I'm Brooks.

I'll tell you what.

You would have a big red flag on a pole.

All sorts of things, strikes, anything they can do.

But basically, if you're ahead of a law firm or a university, any of these institutions, you're dealing with administrations that's just about raw power.

Elites of the world unite behind me.

So the question you have to ask yourself is how do we amass power so they're not dividing us, so we're dividing them.

And that is a mass uprising.

And the one turning point, if you look even at the civil rights movement, when you do a non-violent protest and the people on the other side attack you with violence, that tends to weaken them.

And then suddenly you're dividing them, Selma, obviously.

And so this is the kind of way we have to think.

Has he noticed

the great military strategist?

Has he knows that the violence is on the left and it's always been on the left and it's on the left now with the protests going on and burning the Tesla dealerships and all the rest of it?

Has he noticed this or has he just ignored that, thinks it's going to be

pushback.

That's necessary.

that's necessary for the people to show their power against battery cars

and so this is the kind of way we have to think that it's time not just to think well maybe he'll look at the other guy it's time we're all involved we're all in this together and we're going to amass power together jonathan do you think that that movement that uprising is going to happen.

I mean, we saw protests recently.

There are major protests planned for tomorrow.

Do you think that there is this coalescing energy that David is talking about?

I think it's happening.

It's happening.

I'm out front.

Come on, girls.

Let's go.

It's happening.

It's happening.

These people are going to go back home, drink their Chardonnay, have their nuts.

That was a great show.

Yes, it was.

We have the nation behind us.

The Chardonnay is the right.

Yes, they'll be drinking Chardonnay.

We have the country behind us.

Yes, I'm getting shard.

I'm getting text messages from everywhere they so agree throw off your sweaters

come on swirl your shard

cardigan throw off the cardigan swirl your shard and let's go people

do they know that they're on the losing end of this

no

do they what do you think no no they're in a dream world but it's like what's it so annoying is this is a disservice to listen to these

clowns the only one servicing them is you.

By playing these clips over and over again, they're still on the air.

In fact, they go home, swirl their shard, and like, I sure hoped John will play these clips so we stay relevant in the universe.

That's what's happening here.

They

do a disservice.

This is public broadcasting.

It's paid for by the government.

They get a billion dollars from the government.

to do this.

And this is what the well, no, no, it's also from viewers like you.

No, it's not from viewers like me, is it?

I think this is the last of the clips.

And I think it, I think it started when people were showing up outside of USAID, when they were going through going through hell.

I think

we started seeing we're seeing it in the town halls in Republican districts, so much so that the leadership told Republican members of Congress, don't hold town halls anymore.

We've seen it with the big rallies in red states

convened by Senator Bernie Sanders and AOC in red states.

I think just yesterday or two days ago in Montana, hundreds, if not thousands of

millions.

And then you look at what's happening and I know the courts and the judges are impartial, but they are also part of this pushing back on what's happening.

And then for Harvard to do what it did, I think sent a message not just to university presidents, but to the country that if Harvard, if Harvard had folded, it would have been a devastating thing, but it didn't happen.

And I would just say this one last point.

In Trump III

Adam Surrow wrote famously, the cruelty is the point about the first Trump.

Cruelty.

And I would argue that in Trump II, it's now the cruelty is the policy.

And I think what we're seeing around the country is people pushing back against Trump II.

Jonathan Kapart, David Brooks, always good to see you both.

Thank you.

Thanks for watching.

Awesome segment, boys.

Great job.

Boy, that was so riveting.

All right.

Well, let's talk about the town hall.

Cruelty is the policy.

That's right.

And it's scary.

The town halls are scary.

Very scary.

Even Marjorie Taylor Greene's town halls are just scary.

North of Atlanta, Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene's town hall had flashes of wrestlemania.

WrestleMania!

Hostility, jeering, scuffling with security, and a ringmaster, Georgia's firebrand congresswoman.

This is a town hall.

This is not a political rally.

This is not a protest.

Three hecklers were arrested.

Police tasered two of them, including this man.

These town halls have become so raucous, Greene is one of the few Republicans to hold one during this congressional recess.

Their National Party has suggested members hold virtual town halls instead.

Already in three months, we've got more emails than all of last year.

What does that tell you?

For an hour in Idaho, a room full of Senator Charles Grossley's constituents ganged up on the 91-year-old Republican.

Yeah, we showed him.

Come on, Dems.

Do your jobs and

do your job, man.

Did you see this guy who was sitting back?

He's like, this was far from WrestleMania.

Good job, man.

Hey, man, do your job.

Do your jobs and

court.

They're furious, and they want answers on issues from social security to deportations.

Are you gonna bring that guy back

from El Salvador?

Bring that guy back, you know, the one from El Salvador.

Yeah, yeah.

Woo!

Why not?

Well, because that's not a

power of Congress.

Poor dude.

But that's not.

What's going on?

Who are these people?

Did someone bust them in?

Why, yes, yes, they did.

Happened to Murkowski, too.

In these moments, some people clearly seem scared.

Alaska's Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski made this extraordinary admission.

We are all afraid.

I'm

oftentimes

scary.

Well, yes, town hall in a bucket.

Yes, I'm afraid.

And it's not just Republicans getting an earful from their constituents.

I don't believe that you have fought large enough.

Democratic Representative Laura Friedman got the same message from Californians.

Okay, please, please sit down.

We have a lot of questions I want to get through.

Do more.

Fight harder.

And yet there's this reality check.

The president's approval rating stands at 47% in our recent CBS News poll, higher than at any point during his first term.

That was a great statistic.

I love it.

I didn't expect him to do that.

47% approval rating higher than his first term.

It's getting worse.

I think that

I've noticed this.

I think they're doing that to try to rile up the Democrats.

Oh, totally.

That's what you do.

He's getting more popular.

We have to do more.

Be crazier.

Do more.

Sit more.

Be crazier.

That's it.

Be crazier.

We're CBS News.

Be crazier because this is great.

It's easy for us.

All we have to do is film it.

It's good news.

It gets people to watch the show, our dying shows.

Yeah.

It's a good idea.

I think it's

smart.

They could do a little bit better on the audio.

I'm disappointed in CBS with their audio.

You know, some of the audio and the fact that they, you know, you can clean up that Murkowski clip.

Somewhat.

Yeah.

But they don't, nobody's done it.

So every time you hear it, you can't.

I could have

used something that had that clip in there, but I thought the clip was on, you can't hear her.

It's unusable.

I know.

I can't believe I played it.

I apologize.

I'm stunned that you played it.

All right.

I'm going to play something different.

I got to shift gears here for a second.

It is, of course, Easter today.

Please take note, Adam and John working on Easter.

We are working on that.

Oh, that's right.

You know, I forgot to milk that.

That's true.

We're working.

Yes, you did not milk it.

On Easter Sunday again.

I think we've worked every Easter ever.

Well,

it's a Sunday, you typically.

So yes, I believe so.

I don't think we've taken any.

Yep.

No, no, no.

Who else can say that?

Nobody.

No, no, no, no.

No.

So this comes from Frau Ingraham's show, The Ingraham Report.

And so I wanted to play this just as a good news,

a Jesus-free clip.

But then I thought, wait, wait, this is actually a put-down on the famous Dana Brunetti.

Dana Brunetti, the producer of major box office smashes, such as Gran Turismo, such as House of Cards, such as 50 Shades of Gray and 50 Shades of Greyer.

And he will not listen to the money.

He must have been the social network.

The social network.

I mean, these were huge hits.

Captain Phillips, I think, is one of his big hits.

With Tom Hanks?

Yeah.

Interesting.

Mm-hmm.

I wonder if Brunetti's ever been to the island with Tom.

Probably not.

Anyway, he will not listen to me.

I tell him, you know, his career is in the slump.

Hollywood hates him.

He's retired.

Hello.

I'm defending Dana Brunetti.

You're never retired from show business.

You're always looking for your next hit.

You're always looking for your next hit.

You always want to have that one more time.

I want to get in the game one more time.

I have told him time and time again, but he will not listen to me.

The way to go is Jesus, Dana Brunetti.

This Good Friday, a note of hope.

It's no secret that people have been writing the obituary of Christianity since Jesus was nailed to the cross.

Have you been to the movies recently?

Some of the biggest box office winners in recent weeks, The King of Kings and the Chosen Last Supper.

Why are Jesus movies beating Disney releases?

Because there's a yearning for

eternal truth and community rooted in that truth.

On Amazon, House of David, based on King David's life, was one of the most watched new releases for the streamer.

And there's huge excitement building around Mel Gibson's forthcoming sequel to The Passion of the Christ, 20 years after that blockbuster.

That's right.

It just kept on going.

Everything up.

And churches, in case you haven't been paying attention, are packed this Holy Week.

The National Catholic Register is reporting reporting across the country, dioceses are seeing annual increases in new converts of 30 to 70 percent.

That's up.

I'm reading similar reports in England and France, and even in Washington, D.C., there's a pronounced effort to demonstrate faith these days in a way you just didn't see a few years ago.

President Trump has made a habit of inviting pastors of various denominations to pray with him in the Oval Office.

Earlier this week, the President held an Easter prayer service and dinner at the White House.

As we gather with family and friends, we'll not forget the true source of our joy and our strength.

America has put our trust in God.

It will always be in God we trust.

We will never change that.

What you are seeing is the normalization of faith across the culture.

In pop culture, in government, it's like a green light that one can, with calm and confidence, express faith without fear of recriminations.

in the way the founders intended.

And it's a message that those Gen Zers who are going to be baptized this weekend seem to be responding to.

Get on the train, Bernetti.

Get on the train.

Jesus is trying to do it.

How does this report jive with all the anti-Christian

stories that are coming?

Oh, the Christians, they got to do this.

They're under attack.

Everyone hates them.

How would they make

narratives straight out the narrative?

How would the narrative

consistent?

Where's your report?

Well, I don't have a report on this.

Next show, I'll have a dozen clips.

okay bring it on

i bet you can't find a dozen

well i'm not going to find it oh gosh okay there you go but i'll find enough no people are becoming bold in their faith john this is good and and the movies and you know you've you said it yourself the president sets the tone for the country

that's what's going on when he starts watching those movies

yeah

that would make a difference he's going to go to the premiere

The premiere of what?

Of Mel Gibson's The Passion, the sequel.

The Passion of the Christ 2.

Yes, the sequel.

It's going to be worse.

It was a very, very stressful movie.

The first movie is all in Aramaic.

Yeah.

You cannot say that.

You cannot say it wasn't very successful.

It's one of the biggest grossing movies of all time, I think.

I think it's like 800.

Unwatchable.

Oh, I loved it.

$800 billion.

You can't watch anything.

It was $800 billion.

Okay.

Hold on a second.

It was not $800 billion.

It was the box office for Passion of the Christ.

I'm going to ask your favorite,

your favorite AI.

Okay, you're right.

$612 billion.

No, it was million, but it was close.

Yes, $612

million is not $800 billion.

That's okay.

I like the way you think.

You're just like you're in a dream world.

No, I'm in reality, my friend.

I'm in reality.

Meanwhile, on the other end of the spectrum, on the social networks, things not looking too good.

We've got lawsuits happening everywhere.

What started as a chat app for gamers has become a playground for child predators.

That's what the New Jersey Attorney General alleges of Discord.

Discord appeals to online predators who use the app to sexually exploit children.

New Jersey is the first state to sue Discord, alleging.

You know what Discord is, don't you?

I think I do.

I don't use Discord.

I don't know Discord.

Oh, well, Discord is very popular.

It's more popular than Snapchat.

It's more popular than WhatsApp.

It's popular.

It's more popular than Signal.

It's more popular than Telegram.

What you said, we just keep on spouting is not comparable.

A Discord server is not just a chat.

It has files.

It has all kinds of, it has different functions.

A lot of them are used by spooks.

It was a big gamer thing.

You could share, you know, that's where you could also buy stuff.

You could buy your

in-game gear.

So that's why they say it's a server.

And I think it's even open source.

So you can, you know, but the company Discord is very successful.

They're making a lot of money, and they're in trouble.

New Jersey is now the first state to sue Discord, alleging it does not provide a safe environment for kids.

The app, with over 200 million monthly users, operates as a series of chat rooms known as servers.

Attorney General Matthew Platkin says a number of the people in those servers are adults communicating with children.

Platkin blames Discord's default settings, which allow anyone to friend anyone.

There's very little to prevent kids from connecting with and receiving messages from complete strangers.

The Attorney General's office links to several child predator cases it's prosecuted with links to Discord.

Predators that were found to have used the app to engage in sexual grooming, extortion, and exploitation.

The AG's office also says Discord misled parents about a feature called safe direct messaging.

Discord said safe direct messaging would scan direct messages and delete those with explicit content.

But Discord knew that wasn't true.

The Attorney General's office also alleges Discord as a breathing ground for extremists and racist content.

White nationalists organized a 2017 Unite the Right rally on Discord.

The New Jersey Attorney General's office sued Meta in 2023 and TikTok in 2024.

Discord, now the latest social media site, called to court.

We are now in a position to lead nationally.

The New Jersey Attorney General is seeking civil penalties as well as an injunction against Discord and an order that Discord give back any profits that were generated in New Jersey.

So, of course, this is parents

moving, you know, shoving their own responsibility out of the way.

You've got to take away these phones from these kids.

Just to know, organize with your school, no phones for these kids.

Stop.

It's all dumb.

You know, I'm still stunned by the fact that kids can be on their phones in a classroom.

Yeah, that's ending.

And there's a lot of.

Well, it's barely ending, and everyone's bitching about it.

It's like it should have never begun.

When I was a kid.

Oh, boy, here we go.

Yeah.

This reminds me of.

When you were a kid, your parents kept you in the drawer.

When I was a kid, I remember there was two things that there was interesting switch over.

There was like, when I was a kid, it was a big deal that kids got caught smoking in the bathroom.

By the time I was out of college, it was like, oh, no, nobody smokes in the bathroom.

They smoked pot in the bathroom.

Now, all of a sudden, they went from smoking cigarettes to pot

in the bathroom.

When I was a kid, it was like verboten to have a handheld calculator like an HP.

Yes.

You couldn't.

You remember this too, don't you, Boomer?

Yeah.

And then you had your watch.

You had a little Casio watch with a little pen and you could, and it had a calculator on it.

You could tap the little numbers with the pen on the watch face.

Remember that?

No, I don't remember that, but I can see I can see people doing it.

Yeah.

But couldn't have done that.

So we've gone from, no, you can't have a calculator in the classroom because it's cheating to, oh, yeah, you're going to have a phone.

Where you could with the internet in your hand, you can look anything up.

But it's because the parents, the kids that you produced, the boomer generation, the parents are like, I have to be in touch with my child.

Bless you.

I have to be in touch with my child.

If my son doesn't feel well, you have to be in the middle of the morning.

That was never us.

No,

we went to the nurse, and the nurse said, sit here, lay down.

He's an aspirin.

I know.

I know.

I know.

Meanwhile, more lawsuits.

Facebook.

PayPal or Venmo accounts.

You might have some money from Facebook inside.

Facebook started sending out $40,67 payments to users as part of a class action lawsuit over its life.

My money!

The suit claimed that Facebook used cookies to track users even when they were logged out or using other websites.

Facebook agreed to settle the suit, but did not admit to any wrongdoing.

They got to end that, too.

They should have to repent.

We did it.

We're sorry.

Here's your $40.

They should be forced to admit wrongdoing.

And Google, also on the block for the millionth time, of which, of course, just a fine will be paid and nothing else will happen.

This is a really big blow to the company.

The U.S.

judge in the state of Virginia essentially saying that Google held an illegal monopoly over key parts of the online advertising market.

Now, this all stemmed from a lawsuit from the U.S.

Justice Department as well as 17 individual U.S.

states that argue that Google dominated three essential tools in ad tech, namely publisher ad servers, ad exchanges, and tools used by advertisers.

Picture any website that you use that has advertising.

Look at the top banner, the banners on the left and the right.

These are all come from deals that Google strikes with advertisers who then are allowed to place their ads on millions and millions of websites across the internet.

Now, the court agreed partially, saying the company locked in publishers and blocked out rivals.

The judge also ruled that Google removed key product features and forced customers to stick with its tools, which in turn hurt competitors and the competition and

customers.

Google has denied denied hurting the market, saying that it will appeal the judgment in a statement saying that it did win half the case today and that will go on to win the other half.

It's such a racket those guys have.

They have the buy side.

They have the sell side.

They got the tools.

They got everything.

Everything.

This total

figured out.

A total scam.

A total scam.

And my final, and this is, we have talked about this for well over a decade.

We have warned about this.

We probably have even framed it as such.

The best jail, the best jail, is the one that you let the inmates build themselves.

And we are here.

Some police departments are using a new tool, those home doorbell cams, to create a crime-fighting camera network.

But as Stephen Romo reports, the privacy questions have some critics' concern.

Across the country, crimes are being caught on doorbell

and surveillance cameras

every day.

Now, more and more police departments are leaning into this technology, getting homeowners and businesses to share their video with local law enforcement.

The goal is to create a network of cameras to fight crime.

We're seeing more frequent apprehensions and faster apprehensions of suspects.

In Washington, D.C., their Camera Connect program and real-time crime center launched early last year.

In that time, they've seen a 35% reduction in violent crime, a 30-year low.

And they say the tens of thousands of new camera registrations they've had so far will be an important tool to continue that trend.

This program allows for those that wish to provide information to us to remain anonymous, and it makes it more of a comfortable interaction rather than having an officer knocking on your door.

This is so bad.

And part of it is because people just love capturing this stuff on their cameras.

Like, oh, I can't wait to post that to TikTok.

Oh, look, I caught a fight.

Put it on X.

It's true.

There's a rat.

Oh, that plane fell out of the

rat.

That plane fell out of the sky.

I had it.

I had it.

I'm on the news.

Similar programs are in place in jurisdictions coast to coast.

And while the rules can vary, it generally works like this.

When homeowners register, they can join a list of available cameras that law enforcement can turn to in an investigation.

Police can request video from them and the homeowner can then choose whether to provide that video or not.

Yeah, you want to send that to us, don't you?

I mean, you wouldn't want to hold back any evidence, would you?

I mean, seriously, I mean, I think it's probably a good idea if you give that footage to us, don't you think?

Businesses that sign up can take it a step further.

They can opt in and provide their live surveillance feeds, giving police departments access to their cameras in real time.

And while police say they've seen success, privacy advocates have serious concerns about handing over this kind of access.

When you justify surveillance by saying that it's only going to be used against the most violent criminals, what you end up seeing is those technologies become slowly over time and an everyday aspect of policing.

Many police departments emphasize these programs are voluntary and designed with privacy and transparency in mind.

We are not passively watching camera feed and watching people live their day-to-day lives.

New uses for the latest technology to help keep us safe.

You can't stop it.

The Skynet is here.

Yeah.

We're building it ourselves.

You know what?

If I go to someone's house and I see one of those cameras, I'm going to call them and walk away.

So I'm not coming to your house.

Take that ring camera down.

Why don't you just take a

some shoe polish and put it right over the lens?

Oh,

yeah.

I'm going to rip it right off and put it in my drawer next to my phone.

It's none of this is good.

But again, I'm telling you, it's because people love it.

Oh, yeah.

I got this.

I got this.

I got him.

I got him.

My clip went viral.

I'm growing.

I'm awesome.

I'm awesome.

A rat.

Hey, if you catch the pizza rat, that could be worth some money.

Pizza rat.

yeah.

Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage.

In the morning to you, the man who just put the seas in the crime-fighting camera network.

Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr.

John C.

Nevoro.

Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr.

Adam Curry.

In the morning, our ships of the sea boots to the ground.

Subs in the water, and all the games and nights out there.

And the morning to the trolls in the troll room.

We're talking about second-hand trolls basically one on

the night.

1912.

Not bad for an Easter Sunday.

I guess.

Aren't you people out hunting eggs?

1912 stinks.

For a Sunday?

Well, for a holiday, you know, nobody comes and listens.

This is why nobody does work.

This is why nobody works.

I've said it before.

This is why nobody works on these holidays.

No,

because nobody's around.

They don't listen.

They're

actually doing something.

They're living their lives.

No,

people always want to check in with us.

I mean, again, we do this.

Maybe they'll download later.

We do this as a public service for everybody.

It's important.

If we don't point it out, who is going to?

Everybody else is on the take.

One way or the other, they may not even know it, but they want to be popular.

And we clearly don't want to be popular.

Yes, I guess that's true.

We gave that up a long time ago.

Hey, man, you guys should see video.

Need to do video.

The trolls are in the troll room, trollroom.io.

This is just one of of the many features we've been doing for, oh, gosh, over 15 years with the live chat and streaming.

We were on that so early.

Why did we even decide to do that?

You did.

It was all you.

It was me.

I was against it.

You were against live streaming?

I thought it was unnecessary.

And how do you feel about it?

I was in the pure side of the podcasting formula.

How do you feel about it now?

I think it's fabulous.

Yeah.

I was completely wrong.

You were right.

Oh, my God.

I can't believe this.

This is like the whole week I've been right.

You can also listen to it on the modern podcast apps, which I recommend you give them a go, podcastapps.com.

You know,

the big,

what's it called?

Pocketcasts.

Pocketcast, which originally Pocketcast, I don't know if you know the story behind it.

No.

Was

it was an app that was built by NPR and PBS, and they all put, you know, like $50 million into building this app.

That sounds right.

And, and it wound up, you know, the whole thing fell apart, and then it was sold to another group, and that group because it's very hard to make money on a podcast app unless, you know, people just want to support the developer, which you should do.

Most apps have a way to support the developer through premium something or other.

You should do that because that improves your app over time.

And ultimately, Matt Mullenweg's outfit, Automatic, bought it, the guys behind WordPress, and they open sourced it.

And they have now added all all these podcasting 2.0 features,

including the funding tag, which is cool.

So if you use

Pocketcast app,

if you want to support the show, there's a button right there.

Just look at the app right now.

It says support the show.

You click on it, boom, you go right to our donation page.

Is that right?

Yes, it's another podcasting 2.0 improvement to podcasting.

Yep.

Yep.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm impressed.

Well, thank you.

Thank you.

That was one of the first.

You didn't do it.

I was a big part of it.

Yeah.

We all, we all, this is the whole group.

The whole group is about 150 people.

The group's been together for five years.

Yeah.

It's you won't find that.

That does stem from NPR, you said.

No, but that's feature.

NPR did nothing.

They had to, they tried to sneak in an ad thing called RAD.

Red, R-A-D, Red, I don't know what, a radio advertising directive or something.

That thing fell apart.

And so, you know, no, none of these, none of these features were in there when it was bought.

No, No, that's new.

That is a 2.0 feature, my friend.

You will not find that on Spotify or Apple.

Uh-uh.

You can get those at podcast apps on the show.

You're a saint.

I don't know about that.

I don't know about that.

Well, you're sniffling.

Yes.

It's getting worse as the show

progresses.

Yes, I think

there's something about you that spurns it off.

It's a COVID.

No, you can't blame me.

I had nothing to do with it.

It's Dutch COVID.

Dutch COVID is what I got.

As we mentioned, we've been doing this for over 17 years, and the way we've been able to sustain our transparency, our honesty, our integrity, and quite frankly, our lack of

global success is by our value-for-value model, which means you don't get ads.

You don't have to pause for anything.

Oh, man,

it's gotten so bad now with the ads.

Do you listen to any other podcasts ever?

I do, yeah.

Yeah, like what?

Well, I don't have anyone that I listen to over and over.

I just listen to a variety of podcasts.

I sent you one this morning:

the YouTube podcast.

That's not a podcast.

That's a YouTube video.

Well, it's a guy with a we okay.

There's a guy with a one guy with a microphone and he's wearing a beanie and he's not Tim Poole.

That's a podcast.

The new uniform for podcasters is a beanie.

You know, and cans.

You got to have the cans.

That's over the beanie.

That's cans.

That's it.

That's what we need to do.

We need to have beanies.

We got to have beanies over the cans.

I think that would be good.

That would be a good look for us.

Not beanies over the cans.

The cans are under the beanie.

I think the cans over the beanie.

No, the cans are over the beanie.

Yeah.

Oh, there you go.

The cans are over the beanie.

I've already helped our artists with the art, and we guaranteed we won't choose it.

We'll have two or three of those already.

Yeah.

But they won't get picked.

Don't do them.

Value for value is how we decided to to move this ball forward.

And it's been okay.

I mean, it's certainly, it's been a ride.

You know, imagine like you look at your check at the end of the month, like, oh, it's much less than it was the month before.

Why?

I don't know.

You suck.

Okay, thanks.

Got it.

Or, hey, we did well.

People liked us.

But we can't kowtow to anybody because that's when it just doesn't work.

The audience capture thing doesn't work.

People who want you to say certain things, they never donate.

Have you noticed that?

Oh, yeah.

That's why we don't do it.

We know this.

We've been around a block.

People like, oh, you got to talk more about this.

You got to talk about Epstein.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If you don't talk about Epstein, you know how they control everything, Epstein.

Max.

Where's the list?

I want to see it.

Yeah, I want it too.

There is no list.

Do you think Diddy?

Do you really

think there's a list of clients that has behind it

likes this, likes this, has a penchant for that?

Do you really?

Yeah.

I don't think so.

I think so.

You think that list exists?

No, they destroyed it.

I don't think it ever existed.

I mean, you don't know your clients well enough.

You have to write that down.

Oh, he likes the feather.

Too many people.

There's a massive amount of people.

You need the details.

Well, we want the list.

I agree.

We want the list.

Yeah, we want the list.

And you know what?

Or at least come out and say that, or at least come out with the BS.

There is no list.

We tried and tried and tried.

Pan Bondage can come out and do that at any time.

She can say, We're wrong.

We thought we had something here.

We don't.

Yeah.

I mean, just tell us the truth instead of dangling it.

Yes, yes.

And how about that Frazzle Drip video?

Tell us more.

Frazzle Drip.

I don't even know about that.

Oh, you don't want to see it.

Frazzles.

You don't know the Frazzle Drip?

No.

Oh, it's horrible.

I didn't want to say that.

I would have called if you had said that out of the blue, I'd figure that's a disease you have currently.

No, it just sounds like frazzled drip.

Supposedly, Hillary Clinton and Huma Aberdeen torturing a child and cutting off the child's face and wearing it like a mask.

There, I said it.

Oh, yeah, I remember that.

Yeah.

Oh, now you remember.

How could you forget that one?

That somehow that didn't leave.

It was hard for me to get out of my mind.

Bull crap is why.

It's frazzle drip, yes.

Yeah, yeah.

So.

Hey, we're going to do do something really gross.

Somebody, anybody with a camera, anyone with a phone that can take a picture of this so we can use it as evidence evidence against us.

Somebody getting and remember, it was filmed by Podesta.

Podesta, yes, it was Podesta filming because you can hear him laugh.

It's Podesta's laugh.

Everybody knows,

everybody knows it.

Wow, this is turning out to be such an Easter show, isn't it?

And that's beautiful.

Yeah, yeah, thanks to you.

What do you mean?

You brought it up.

I didn't.

Well, you pretended you didn't know.

I didn't.

Value for value is where we ask you to support the show for the service that we provide free of charge.

There's no limitations.

We never ask you to jump through any hoops, not even a registration.

You know, you can sign up for the newsletter, which is also free, which you also get in your show.

And I'm surprised more people don't sign up for it.

It's good content.

And it's funny.

And it always gives a little preview of stuff we're going to talk about.

We've got some memes of the week, some funny memes.

I got a hypocrite in there.

Every newsletter has got a different one.

And I know you do a lot of work on creating those hypocrite memes.

You have to look through somebody else's files.

It's very difficult work.

Well, it's not as easy as it looks.

It used to be easier when the guy, the guy, most of these come from Defiant L.

And he used to be.

He used to crank these out, and then all of a sudden he became like, oh, everyone, you know, I think Trump or somebody said, hey, this guy's guy's got some good stuff.

So now he's pontificating.

He's tipping all kinds of stuff.

It's just like.

He's gone beyond.

He's gone.

He's got a gun to his head.

He's jumped the shark.

He's jumped the shark.

Yeah, he has jumped the shark.

So one of the ways people support us with time and talent is what our artists do.

And our artists are very talented.

They've been talented for many, many years.

And a lot of them have picked up the tools of the trade.

The new tool.

I mean, back in the day, people were using Microsoft Paint when we started the show.

And MacDraw.

I remember a lot of people used MacDraw.

MacDraw.

And then slowly they came in with some Photoshop.

And then there was a big, oh, remember the controversy?

That's clipart.

Someone's cheating with clip art.

Those days seem silly.

By today's terms, don't they?

Because now it's AI.

People are using AI.

Not all, but many are using them.

Some have figured out.

I think over half of the artists we use.

Some have figured out.

Some are so good that we think it's AI and it's not.

But all of it is at noagendaartgenerator.com.

And you can, if you're listening live, you can just go there and refresh and see the new ideas streaming in, which is fantastic.

And of course, all of these images

have a pretty good shot at being used for the chapters, which you can see on the modern podcast apps, including Pocket Cast.

It's a big app.

Pocket Cast has like 3% of the market, which is pretty big for

an app.

So our art for episode 1756, which we titled AG Barbie, came to us from Dr.

Kelly, and it was a hey, Bill, pick me girl.

And people loved this art.

I knew they would.

I knew it.

And, you know, people were ready to give up Linux.

Like, well, if Microsoft has girls like that,

I'm packing up my Linux.

I'm going to Windows.

I saw him say it.

And this was, of course, based upon a story that you had never told.

I don't think I'd ever heard it before,

that Microsoft would send off these girls to Australia to go work there because they had to protect them against Bill.

Well, no, it's after they had an affair with Bill.

They had to protect the company.

Oh, the company, right?

Yeah.

Do you think that E.

Karen was one of them?

I don't know, maybe.

Remember

the girl who used to...

She worked at...

She

turned down a job at the CIA, and then she worked for Microsoft in the 90s.

Would this have been in the 90s?

It probably would have been in the 90s.

And then she was sent over to

run the outfit in

Australia.

Well,

yes.

And yes.

Sounds like she might have been one of them.

So that was Dr.

Kelly.

Dr.

Kelly won anything previously?

No, this was Dr.

Kelly's second

submission.

Dr.

Kelly has only been an artist for three weeks, has only entered twice, and boom.

It happens.

Nailed it.

Nailed it.

That was really.

Well, that was a point of controversy because we both wanted to pick the one next to it, which was Shrimp Barbie.

Let me see.

Let me see.

Where was it?

What was it with Shrimp Barbie?

Well, you go find, hey, Bill, pick me from Dr.

Kelly.

It's right next to it.

I can't believe you don't remember this.

I traveled across the world.

Well, is it on the next page?

No, it's right next to the

one we picked.

I know, but I can't even find the one we picked.

I think that's on page two for me.

No, no, it's on page one.

Can't tell you how many rows down.

Okay.

One, two, three, four, five, six.

Ah.

Okay.

Shrimp Barbie is

no, next to it, I have

the tech grouch.

On the other side.

Oh, oh, oh, there it is.

No, that wasn't the one.

We wanted the one.

No, no, that's the one we wanted.

We wanted Pick Me too.

The guy with the belly shirt and the beard.

The one above it.

The one above it.

Oh, well, your layout.

How many four?

I got four across.

What's your layout?

I got three across.

All right.

Go four across.

I don't want.

Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about.

The guy with the beard and the.

Yeah, but that's Pick Me too.

That's not Shrimp Barbie.

It says Shrimp Barbie on on mine.

I'm talking about the one on the left from Blue Acorn.

So we were talking about.

Oh, no, we didn't want that one.

That's the one I wanted.

I thought that was great.

No, it's not.

The one you wanted was the same one I'm talking about.

No.

You were laughing.

We thought it was both.

We both thought it was funnier than the cute girl.

I'm telling you, I was laughing at the other one.

Well, that's a terrible one.

I thought that was funny.

Now, the one I liked.

Yeah, you liked Shrimp Barbie.

I got you.

No, No, I like Bad Cook

by Darren O'Neill.

And you just thought it was AI slop.

Yeah, it was slop.

It was slop.

It was actually quite good.

Yeah.

And there's some other pick bills down further, a little more cheesecakey.

You know, the troll room is like, well, what is this?

I hate this conversation.

You guys aren't playing along.

You have to get to the website and play along.

Yeah, if you're not on the website, it's boring.

Yes.

Well, they think it's, oh, all this is riveting oh this is so good this is inside baseball

okay

and you know what they do they don't donate and they don't they don't no they don't donate these people that they're complaining do not donate they do all they want is just you know

free stuff free stuff right in the vein right exactly well thank you very much uh to our uh artists there um brand new artists which i think is just fantastic it's very it doesn't happen a lot dr kelly welcome aboard.

You're not on the leaderboard, but you keep at it.

And by the way, you know, speaking of the tech grouch, so I pulled up the

tech grouch because you told me they was on TikTok.

Yeah.

And I showed it to Christina and Kevin.

And even I was playing it, I'm like, it didn't age.

You got to do new ones.

Yeah, obviously.

It's very old.

Yeah.

And you have like 27 views.

Well, it's because it just posted.

Nah,

it doesn't have virality, man.

You got to start over.

You got to remake the tech crouch.

Anyway, thank you very much to all of the artists and again to Dr.

Kelly.

And everybody can participate.

Go to NoAgendaArtGenerator.com.

And now, as we always thank every single one of our financial supporters, that's one of the T's of time, talent, and treasure.

We thank everybody $50 and above, never under $50 for reasons of anonymity.

Yes, there are plea people who want to support the show, but are embarrassed, so they don't want to be known.

And we always always thank our executive and associate executive producers right up front here.

$200 or above, you get the coveted title of associate executive producer.

Good anywhere as a Hollywood credit, even on imdb.com, and we'll read your note.

$300 or above, you become an executive producer.

Same credit lifetime applies, and we'll read your note.

And as always, the top donors have the shortest notes.

Earl Christopher comes in from Marshfield, Wisconsin, with $526.36, which Earl says is $500 plus fees.

Wow.

$26 in fees for using an app.

Man, thank you very much, Christopher.

We appreciate it.

And he says, You know what?

If that was a check, yeah, it would have 15 cents.

15 cents.

15 cents.

We accept checks.

We do.

Noagendadonations.com explains it all.

And he says, Happy Easter and Happy Easter to you, Earl.

Thank you very much.

Sir Dude named Ralph, Commodore, Sir Dude named Ralph in Miami, Florida at 421.85.

Happy Easter.

Another short note.

Happy Easter to you and your families.

This donation is to wish my dad

Raphael a happy 85th birthday on Monday, April 21st.

He's on the list, too.

Very good.

Commodore Sir Dude named Ralph.

Chase Adams is in DeSoto, Missouri, 420.69.

We got you.

Greetings, gents.

I've been a regular

listener since Rogan donation was a new thing.

But to my own misfortune, I have never been above board with my three T's and can only call myself a dirty, dirty douchebag.

However, today marked a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, a mystical confluence of numerology that compelled me to thank you for your time, talent, and treasure with some of my own.

Though no amount of money will be enough to compensate for my incredibly small amygdala, hopefully, this will

help keep you one more episode away from your impending backup plan,

exit strategy.

By the way, Adam, if you are looking to celebrate today, operate a website, Blazed Deals.

Blazed Deals, which scans over 600 online cannabis retailers.

So you can find the very lowest price on what you're looking for.

Simply visit blazed.deals.

Oh, it's blazed.deals, I guess.

And click the category of product you prefer to find everything on the net.

Order by milligram per dollar, Best value first.

Love you guys.

Thank you so much for what you do.

Could I get a dedouching, a Rogan donation, and the B.

And the B, and then it stops.

What happened to the rest of his note?

I don't know.

Just

the B.

Need to talk to management about this.

You've been deduced.

Oh, sorry.

Let me do that again.

I hit the douching.

You've been deduced.

Rogan donation.

There we go.

All right.

Thank you.

Now we have MFDX of Anjou,

which I assume is in France.

But we don't know for sure.

We don't know for sure, do we?

42069, another 420.69, which is interesting.

He doesn't really have much of a note.

He just says Elon should buy a Blue Origin spaceflight for Dylan.

and five lucky friends.

But what he does have is a script

for a jingle request.

And what he wants is two Fauci wheeze followed by a Fauci wheeze with a one half second pause and then 69, 69 dude.

I think I can do it.

69, 69, dude, dude.

Clearly, he is recording this and wants to ISO it and use it as a as a ringtone.

Ah.

Why else would you do it?

Of course.

Jessica Provencher.

Now it could be Provencher, but I think it's Provencher.

She's in Toronto, Ontario.

Please deduce me.

You've been dedouched.

I have no time or talent, but please accept some of my treasure.

Happy 420 to those that partake.

And happy Easter to all.

Jessica Provencher, Merci Baku.

Onward with Sir Stoner Boner

in Kent, Washington, 420.

Simple and easy.

Happy Easter from Sir Stoner Boner.

Love you guys.

Oh, that's easy.

Thank you.

Stephen Massey, Hendersonville, North Carolina, 350 and 25 cents.

This donation is way overdue.

Dedouch me, please.

You've been dedouched.

And he says this executive producership is a switcheroo for my wife, Mary Massey.

So let's make sure we do that right away.

We'll put Mary in there so we don't mess that up.

Her business was flooded by Helene, and this donation is in celebration of her launching a new business, White Lace and Denim, located at the Tryon International Equestrian Center.

Hmm.

Can I get, do we have no website?

White lace and denim.

Can I get a dose of the best business success, Yak Karma, available?

We will be scheduling a meetup at the Silver Spoon Saloon in the near future.

Stay tuned.

All right.

Here's your Yak Business Karma.

You've got

karma.

Yeah, we've got a sad note coming up here.

It's a sad note.

Is this one?

Yeah, sad note.

This is from the future Sir Friar Joe, New Hartford, Iowa, 333.69.

Love.69 is today.

I'm sending this donation with a heavy heart to mark the passing of one of the great knights of the No Agenda Roundtable, Baron Sir Lineman of the Net Raleigh Hawk.

Yes.

We do know him.

On March 26th, he had a large benign brain tumor removed, and the procedure went well, and his recovery seemed to be off to a great start.

Unfortunately, 12 days later, he collapsed at his home on April 7th from what appeared to be a seizure and a heart attack that followed.

He never regained consciousness and passed officially on April 13th at the age of 46.

No good.

Sudden death.

Raleigh punched me in the mouth back in 2019.

I have been a No Agenda listener and a producer ever since.

Raleigh was an elder at the church I ministered at for six years, and a mentor and a very close friend.

I'm a bit lost without him, and there are many people in southern Illinois.

mourning his loss.

Adam, when we noticed the beginning of your faith journey, Raleigh and I would often refer to Mark 12, 34, where Jesus says you are not far from the kingdom of God, so thankful

to call you a brother in Christ.

Please keep his wife, Robin, and daughter,

Maddie, in your prayers.

A health comrade all around, the future Sir Friar Joe.

Yes.

We're sorry that we lost him.

I've had many emails with

Baron Sir Lyman of the Net Raleigh Hawk.

Yes.

And yes, yes, Robin and Maddie are in her prayers as Sir Raleigh has graduated.

And that is from Sir Future Sir Friar Joe.

Then we have David Hominy.

I remember David Honami.

Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, 333.33.

Resurrects it, Sicodixit.

Alleluia.

I'm sure I butchered that.

Happy Easter to Noah Jen the Nation.

My smoking hot wife, Kimberly, and I listen to every show and love the media deconstruction you both provide.

We would like to call our two people, Taylor and Jenna, oh, as douchebags.

Douchebags.

What am I doing?

Douchebags.

It's the COVID.

It's the COVID.

For jingles, we'd love Scott Simon, Rev Al Respict, and China Asshoe.

No pagan karma, but may the risen Lord bless all.

David and Kim Hominy, Broken Arrow, Oklahoma.

Suffering sucker dash.

I'm Scott.

Simon.

R-E-S-P-I-C-T.

Donald Trump, don't trust China.

China is S-O.

All right.

Nice.

Chris,

I'm sorry, Charles Bosch,

B-O-C-H in Scottsdale, Arizona, 333.33, no note.

And so he'll get a double-up karma.

Indeed, he does.

You've got

karma.

David Arneson, Plymouth, Minnesota, 333 says I haven't donated in a while and I'm feeling guilty about it.

One question: Have you ever looked into the Karen Reed case?

Seems like a pretty shaky case against her.

Here's an entertaining video on it, which I immediately, when I got the spreadsheet, went like, oh, I'll watch this entertaining video.

Yeah, 56 minutes.

Okay, I'll have to watch it later.

But thank you, David Arneson, for your support of the program.

Onward to Associate Executive Producers.

Matthew Hodges starts us off from Burlington, Washington, 28177.

Hello, longtime intermittent listener, first-time donor, please dedouch me.

You've been dedouched.

I started listening again with all the Ukraine stuff in the news.

This is funny because when most people stopped.

Most people left.

You guys are Russian puppets.

I was almost brainwashed by their message.

Thank Thank you for shrinking my amygdala.

May God bless you both.

Thank you.

Amy's up next with a short row of ducks, 222 from Leewood, Kansas.

And it's a switcheroo, she says.

This donation is for Richard M.

of Leewood, Kansas, in honor of his birthday on 420.

Please deduce it.

You've been deduced.

Okay.

And we've got the switcheroo.

Also, play Obama Adams family.

No, no, no, no.

Keep up the good work.

Okay.

Okay, you know what?

No, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

What?

Listen, you're in my house drinking the booth.

No, no, no, no.

Shame on you.

You know, back in the day, John, I think the producers just did more work for the show.

There was a lot of great jingles and stuff.

Just seems like there was more than.

I don't know.

It's a cycle.

It's a very long cycle.

It's a very long cycle, and we're at the depths of the bottom.

All right.

Yeah, that stuff was a lot better.

I mean,

it was catchy.

We had people that

had, I think, maybe, I don't know.

They had rhythm.

It's hard to see.

You know what?

It's before AI when people, you had to have rhythm, you had to have chops to make something.

You know, you might, I would give you that one.

AI might be partly responsible.

It's hurting everything that's creative.

Cotton Gin.

Or maybe it's helping.

Cotton Gin says, maybe that speaks to the quality of the show lately.

Oh, maybe it does.

Maybe it does.

So why is he listening?

I don't know.

What are you doing?

Eli the coffee guy is still listening.

That's all that counts as far as I'm concerned.

And he's in Bensonville, Illinois, at $204.20.

And he says, happy Easter or $420 or both.

Regardless, let's all enjoy the blessings of

the good Lord has bestowed upon us also.

Happy Patriots Day, April 18th and 19th.

Commemorate the riot of Paul Revere and the Battle of Lexington in Concord.

And then don't forget, April 20th is Martial Law Day.

With all these great occasions to celebrate, we suggest you enjoy a fine cup of coffee.

Ask Adam.

Visit gigawattcoffee roasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off your order.

Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy.

And as a special donation segment extra clip, here is a local news report about those very reenactments.

It has indeed been 250 years since Paul Revere rode and the Battle of Lexington and Concord.

Lay down your arms!

Dispersion rebels!

Disperse!

With the field!

The Lexington Minutemen took to the battle green conducting the reenactment of the Battle of Lexington.

More than 300 British soldiers came here to Lexington, literally from overseas, to take part in this historic reenactment.

Eight Americans we know were killed, several others wounded, and it all happened 250 years ago today, Jordan.

Then Concord also marked the battle with a dawn salute and checked this out.

Right now, we're expecting to see some cannons and potentially some muskets fire off.

Or maybe right now.

How's that for timing?

That is exactly the moment I wanted us all to see and replay for when Mike heard that cannon go off.

Too funny.

Yes, such a great tribute to the.

Yeah, he's now a gift, by the way.

We should mention that.

I went to Lexington Green.

It's very impressive.

Very impressive place.

The shot heard around the world.

Look it up, people.

We're going to get a lot of these 250-year things in the next year.

A lot of things happened between this week.

Now and then.

Now and then.

That's right.

Pat Eckert is in Rochester, Minnesota, $200 associate executive producer for Pat.

And Pat says, Show 1757 match week just happened in March for resident doctors, where residents are informed of their residency placements.

Oh, okay.

This isn't this is a native ad.

I'm seeking a renter in Rochester, Minnesota for a three-bedroom, 1.5-bath home for rent featuring a one-car attached garage, priced at $2,000 per month.

This property is situated on a one-acre one-acre lot on the edge of town in Rochester, Minnesota.

To view pictures and obtain additional information, please search for 1225 Robin Lane, Southeast Rochester, Minnesota on zillow.com.

As a special offer, mention the code name Bongino to receive $100 per month discount.

Well, how about that for a deal?

Thank you for your diligent effort, boys.

Thank you, Pat.

So Pat is Zillow.

We're now the classifieds.

We're Zillow, basically.

We've always been the classifieds.

Well, talking about that sort of thing, we have Linda Lou Patkin, who's the last on our list of associate executive producers from Lakewood, Colorado, at 200 bucks.

And she promotes herself by asking for jobs, Karma, and then says, for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com.

That's ImageMakers Inc.

with a case for all your executive resume and job search needs.

And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes.

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

You've got karma.

Yes, we love Linda Liu.

We love Eli the coffee guy.

They're always there to help us out, and it must be working for them.

So we're very happy with this arrangement.

And I love the gigawatt coffee.

And luckily, I've never...

I love my truck.

Luckily, I've never ever needed Linda Liu.

But maybe in four more years,

I know who to go to when I am ready for my executive job search needs.

Thank you to these executive and associate executive producers.

And a reminder, we'll thank the rest of our $50 and above donors in our second segment.

And thank you all for those of you who have set up a recurring donation.

You can go to noagendadonations.com.

You set it up any amount, any frequency.

It's all up to you.

It's value for value.

We love the numerology.

Keep it coming.

Support us, the best podcast in the universe, the No Agenda Show.

My formula is this: We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

Order.

Donald Trump's don't trust.

Shut up.

Zippity Dooda.

Hey, I got some very disturbing, disturbing news.

Disturbing news about COVID.

COVID.

Trump administration has gone off the rails.

Did you see COVID.gov?

No, I did not see COVID.

Should I go look at it?

You should go to COVID.gov.

COVID.gov is where you should be able to get information about vaccinations.

We should be able to get information about all kinds of things, except ivermectin,

where you can get free tests from the government.

But no, that has changed.

CBS News medical contributor, Dr.

Celine Gounder, joining us now to talk about these findings.

Let's talk about the White House and the

Did you see COVID.gov?

Do you see what it says now?

Yes, this has been floating.

This image has been floating around.

I don't understand

why Trump has to be in the image unless he's the leak.

Well, let's go to Celine Gounder from CBS to understand if this is a problem.

If they can just, because if you haven't seen it, COVID.gov, basically

go check it out.

It has the entire report on COVID coming from a lab leak in China, not some

pangolin or some bat from a way.

CBS News medical contributor, Dr.

Celine Gounder, joining us now to talk about these findings.

Let's talk about the White House and the 2024 congressional report specifically saying COVID-19 most likely came from a lab leak in China, but many scientists still lean towards the natural origins.

So unpack all of that for us.

So there's no smoking gun really for either theory, but the strongest scientific evidence points to a natural spillover, most likely at at that wet market in Wuhan in China, where

she's just going head on against it.

Live animals that are known to carry coronaviruses.

Hold on, stop.

I want to mention one thing with this thesis of hers that she's that's old and stale.

They could never find this so-called animal that had this disease ever.

They've never found it in the wild on any in any animal.

They've got the wet market right there.

They can go through everything.

They could check.

Yep,

you done,

yeah, I'm done in Wuhan in China, where live animals that are known to carry coronaviruses were being sold.

Uh, there were there was genetic material from infected animals, including raccoon dogs, that was found in the same places where the virus was first detected at that market.

Wow, raccoon dogs didn't even play during COVID, and she's bringing that out.

That's amazing.

And there's no direct evidence that the virus came from a lab.

This is a new one, John.

It's a new variant.

Not just no evidence.

There's no direct evidence.

This is very tricky.

In places where the virus was first detected.

This came from what?

This CBS?

Yes, Dr.

Celine Gaunder.

CBS.

Okay.

Yes, yes, CBS.

Yes, you know, CBS.

This is the CIA's report.

At that market,

but why

are they going back to this old bromide?

Let's see if the clip gives us some insight.

And there's no direct evidence that the virus came from a lab.

U.S.

intelligence reports say the Wuhan lab did not have SARS-CoV-2.

How about this for a theory?

How about there never was COVID?

It was just the flu.

And she's not lying.

There was no direct evidence for COVID from a lab.

No, maybe it was just the flu.

Remember, the flu was gone.

There was no flu.

Flu was zero, zero cases of flu.

Everybody had COVID.

Right, and then they they were killing him off with the ventilators.

Yes, and remdisovir and all kinds of other nastiness.

Maybe, and with just an unhealthy population.

So maybe she's right.

Maybe there was no COVID from the lab or from the pangolin or the raccoon dog or anything.

I have COVID now.

I'm a living.

The virus that causes COVID or a close precursor even before the pandemic started.

Okay, so the government claims the virus contains a genetic feature that does she say gobermint?

Try it again.

It sounds like she said the government.

SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID, or a close precursor even before the pandemic started.

Okay, so the government claims the virus contains.

She said government.

Yeah, she said government.

Government.

Okay, so the government claims the virus contains a genetic feature that does not exist in nature.

Is that accurate?

So that claim is misleading because they're talking about a part of the virus, what's called the furin cleavage site,

which helps the virus to infect human cells.

And it was unusual when scientists first saw this, but that's because they didn't know to look for it.

And since then we've been

tickets.

I love this.

And since then, we've learned that similar furin cleavage sites are found in other coronaviruses that

infect animals.

It's not a proof of virus engineering.

It's really something that can occur naturally.

Yes, like the flu.

So this change of the website, this has got to be concerning for you, doctor.

Okay, so CBS News reports the Trump administration actually replaced government websites with simple.

Another government.

She's talking about government websites.

She replaced government websites with simplified messaging focused on the lab

leak theory.

Is that concerning?

Well, it is concerning because public health is concerned.

It's very concerning.

Communication should really be grounded in facts and science, questions even, but not politics.

And replacing nuanced scientific content with a single unproven narrative is really misleading to the public.

And it does undermine trust in government guidance.

And so if you have another pandemic or other crisis hit, you want the public to feel like they can trust the information they're being given.

And this really does undermine that trust.

That train left the station years ago, lady.

Nobody trusts the government no more.

Uh-uh, that's all over.

Even Australia was just blown away by this.

And U.S.

President Donald Trump has sensationally transformed a government website that once contained resources for COVID-19 and he's turned it into a promotional page for the lab leak theory.

COVID.gov no longer holds info on vaccines, testing, treatments, but instead traces the virus to Wuhan in China and accuses key public figures there of pushing a preferred narrative.

To tell us more about this, we're joined by political scientist Simon Jackman in studio.

Simon, good to see you as always.

Thank you.

What are some of the big claims being made on this site right now?

Well, it revives the so-called lab leak thesis.

Number one,

it goes very hard.

Hold on a second.

I thought that we already transferred to the lab leak thesis over a year ago.

No.

So you don't re-how do you revive something that is the standard thesis?

It's not that this is what is the what are these guys trying to do here rewrite history gaslight gaslight gaslight of course

what but for what end well because because

australia was one of the most locked down countries in the world they can't the the the mainstream the m5m the government they cannot admit that they were wrong in any any aspect of this

Because then people might try and kill them.

Or whatever.

Okay.

Yeah.

Doesn't that make sense?

Yes, I think it does.

Against people who were in the Biden administration, and indeed in some cases, in Trump Mark I

charged with taking care of this pandemic.

Yes, Trump Mark I.

Trump Mark I.

I like Mark I too.

Trump Mark I, Mark II, Mark I.

Charged with taking care of this pandemic.

Dr.

Fauci in particular, it goes very hard at him.

It goes very hard at people working alongside and indeed anybody who was running, I think, public health at the time.

Do you see what he's talking about?

We've already laughed at it.

Oh, wow.

Because anyone who was running public health at the time, the mainstream media was part of public health at the time.

That's why he's laughing.

Don't come and kill me, Aussie's.

Very hard at him.

It goes very hard at people working alongside.

And indeed, anybody who was running, I think, public health at the time, come in for a serve there.

They have essentially taken a report by the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and put that up almost in its entirety.

As now,

as we said in the intro, there, that is what the U.S.

government is putting forward with respect to information about COVID now.

Never mind the fact that hundreds of people a week across the United States are still dying from COVID.

Still dying from COVID or with COVID or of COVID.

What was it?

People are dying from.

Yeah.

So hundreds a week are now still dying from

COVID.

Yes.

Well, people die from

pneumonia.

Yes, hundreds die from pneumonia.

That's not COVID.

No, of course not.

People didn't, they died with COVID.

We all know.

We all know.

We were there.

We are not going to let the M5M change our mind.

A note from the constitutional lawyer Rob.

Adam, life imitates no agenda.

Y'all have discussed all the Ozempic marketing, the efforts to get it covered by insurance, the health risk that these drugs entail, and the abject lack of transparency shrouding the whole operation.

You even talked about Ozempic-induced blindness.

Well, now there's a lawsuit in New Jersey

claiming that Ozempic made a woman go blind by inducing a condition called non-arteretic anterior

ischemic optic neuropathy.

Ischemic.

Ischemic?

I think it's

I-S-C-H, isn't that?

It's ischemic.

Non-arteritic anterior ischemic optic neuropathy or nion.

N-A-I-O-N.

According to the lawsuit, Nion happens suddenly, often when people wake up blind in one eye, it's irreversible, and 15% of the time it spreads to the other eye.

According to the lawsuit, Novo Nordics.

According to the lawsuit, Novo Nordics had had a lot of evidence linking Ozempic to Nion, but failed to warn anyone.

At the same time, Novo Nordisk was spending hundreds of millions of dollars to have obesity classified as a disease to ingrain these drugs into the pop culture zeitgeist and to get private insurers to cover the drug.

I say again, life imitates no agenda.

Yes, well, we have warned for this because we read stuff.

Yeah, that takes a genius.

But here is the worst.

And

Sharon Osborne apparently has this new side effect known as Ozempic feet.

Oh, this is new.

Yes, it is.

You have my attention.

Ozempic feet.

Gnarly side effect of weight loss drug exhibited by some celebs.

Yes.

So apparently your feet go all curled up.

Your toes curl and you can't uncurl them.

And they have pictures of

Sharon Osborne apparently with COVID feet.

So yeah, it just looks like your toes are cut off because they're all curled underneath.

You can't stretch them back.

You can't stretch them back.

It's a tendon issue.

Yeah.

Yes.

Huh.

Fans noticed Osborne, 72, had wrinkly feet.

The fans speculated could be a result of her Ozimpic usage.

She's walking around barefoot?

What are they talking about?

Yeah, there's pictures of her on the couch.

This cannot be a good product.

I don't think so.

It just can't be a good product.

I don't feel like it's a good product.

But

it doesn't matter because there's help on the horizon.

Eli Lilly announcing potential encouraging news for millions of Americans with obesity and type 2 diabetes, promising new data suggests the company's new daily pill could revolutionize weight loss as we know it.

The drug maker says results from a late-stage trial show their daily pill may be another option similar to Ozempic and other popular injectable drugs, but without refrigeration or injections necessary.

Joining us now with more on this is endocrinologist and obesity expert, Dr.

Reka Kumar.

Doctor, thanks for taking the time.

We know that the common GLP1s are administered with an injection.

How does this pill work and why is it different?

So this pill is different because it can just be swallowed.

It doesn't matter,

you know, with food, without food, with water, without water.

The current GLP one that's oral, that's on the market, ribosis, has a lot of stipulations around food and only four sips of water.

So, this is different because it's a daily pill versus a weekly injection.

Time of day doesn't matter, and we're seeing results that appear to be basically as good as the injectables that we have on the market.

I mean, we're finally here.

It's about time.

Yeah, I mean, eat all the junk you want.

It doesn't matter if it comes in a bag, has a bar card.

You can have the pill with the junk.

You can eat it right.

You don't need four sips of water.

You can swallow it with your milkshake.

This, my friends, is what America is all about.

This is what we do.

What exactly did this trial study show?

And are there any side effects patients should be concerned about when it comes to this new pill?

Why, yes, you've got the COVID gnarly feet, you've got the blindness, you've got the anal leakage, but don't worry.

So, what this trial showed was that this medicine was great at lowering blood sugar as well as they've actually said it's great.

What study says, hey, this is great.

Reducing body weight.

It was a 16-pound weight loss at 40 weeks, which is tracking to look like the weight loss we see in Ozempic, We Govi, a little bit under Munjaro.

And the fact that this doesn't require refrigeration.

Wait, wait.

Manjaro did better.

Manjaro outperformed everybody.

It sounds like it.

Manjaro, if you're going to go for the shot.

This is news to me.

Yeah, I didn't know it either.

I think if you're going to go for the shot, Manjaro is the way to go.

And the fact that this doesn't require refrigeration, it's not an injection and can be taken by mouth is great for people that might have an aversion to pills or an aversion to injections.

So it offers another option.

It's just another option.

I am not a medical doctor.

We are not giving you any advice, but stay away from this stuff, people.

This can't be good.

Yeah.

So while we're on the topic

of ingesting poison,

fluoride?

I have a fluoride series of clips from PBS that I thought were quite fascinating because they brought somebody on to re-promote fluoridation because all of a sudden, you know, we

like

we're having these issues, some states are dropping it.

Was it a representative from Alcoa, the aluminum producer?

No, I don't think so, but we didn't look, I didn't do a deep dive into her background, but she's obviously a stooge and she wouldn't answer one question.

By the way, this is this has been going on on networks everywhere.

I wanted to clip some of this stuff, so I'm glad you had it.

There are pro-fluoride people out on all the networks right now.

Yeah.

Everywhere.

All right.

This is from

this stop right there because the reason is fluoride is an

industrial waste.

Poison.

And they don't know what to do with it.

I mean, they're going to have to take it out and drop it off in the middle of the ocean or something right now because

it's no good.

But here, but so, but so we want to reintroduce it into the drinking water.

That'll get rid of it.

And so let's bring in some experts here.

Now, they actually, I have to give the credit to the guy on PBS here because he actually,

actually, actually, actually,

he does

repeat a question twice that she never answers.

He doesn't keep beating her up with it, which I would have done, but

you'll hear.

Earlier this month, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.

announced plans to end the federal recommendation that municipalities add fluoride to their drinking water.

The Environmental Protection Agency also said it was reviewing, quote, new scientific information about the risks of fluoridation.

Given this renewed debate, we wanted to hear one perspective from a community that did remove fluoride from its water, the Canadian city of Calgary.

Earlier this week, I spoke to Lindsay McLaren.

She's a professor of community health sciences at the University of Calgary, and I began by asking her why we started fluoridating water in the first place.

In regions of the United States and elsewhere,

it was observed by local dentists, this was back in the 1940s, that people living in certain communities had kind of a staining of their teeth,

but their teeth also turned out to be quite resistant to tooth decay.

And so

it was figured out that this was because of naturally high levels of fluoride in the drinking water.

And so that gave rise to the idea that we could actually do this intentionally and and in a controlled manner as a public health intervention to improve the oral health of the population.

We mentioned that some people have cited risks associated with this practice.

And the current HHS Secretary in the United States, R.F.K.

Jr.,

he had a recent visit to the state of Utah.

Utah itself became the first state to ban fluoride in its water.

Here's what he said there.

In the era of

fluoridated toothpastes and mouthwashes,

It makes no sense to have fluoride in our water.

The

evidence against fluoride is overwhelming.

In animals, in animal models, and in human models, we know that it causes IQ loss.

Huh?

What?

Causes what?

IQ loss.

I'm sorry.

Huh?

I'm pretending to have been drinking the water.

So, oh, yes.

So,

okay, so that's the key that he wants, you know, let's get rid of fluoride because it's not good for our intelligence.

We're all dumbing down.

So let's continue these clips and see what she has to say about this.

So what about those arguments?

One, that in the era of heavily fluoridated toothpaste, we don't need to add it to our water.

And two,

are there studies indicating that it causes IQ loss?

So the point about being in the era of widespread fluoride toothpaste is a good one, but research and systematic reviews of research that have been conducted in this era consistently show that there is an added benefit of fluoridated water above and beyond the widespread use of toothpaste.

And then what about the studies that he cited about IQ loss?

Yeah, what about them?

So, yeah, he has to re-ask the question because she didn't answer it.

Right.

About IQ loss.

Do you think she's going to answer it this time

after he asked again?

I'm guessing

Maybe she will deflect, deny, and defend?

I think you're right.

And then, what about the studies that you cited about IQ loss?

The main thing to say there is that it's really not at all clear that fluoridation is associated with those outcomes at the levels that we're talking about for community water fluoridation.

There's many examples of things that are harmful or toxic at high levels, but that are innocuous or even beneficial at lower levels.

Hey, man, what are you complaining about?

Lots of stuff that we put in the water is toxic, okay, but it can also be good for you.

So turning to your experience, in 2011, the Calgary City Council voted to remove fluoride from its water.

You launched a study then as to what the downstream impacts of that was.

What is it that you found?

So we designed a large-scale study where we collected data on oral health and a number of other things from several thousand kids in both Calgary, where fluoridation was stopped, and in Edmonton, which is the other large city in Alberta, which has several similarities to Calgary, with the main difference being that they had fluoridation in place and it was continuing.

About seven to eight years after the decision to stop fluoridation in Calgary,

we observed quite a big difference in the prevalence of tooth decay among kids in the two cities.

A big difference.

Oh, okay.

Big difference.

A big difference.

Big difference.

All right.

What was the big difference?

It's a big difference.

It's a big difference.

Well, what would you guess?

Wait a minute.

So they had two cities, one had fluoridated water, one had no fluoridated water, and they noticed a big difference.

I guess much better teeth health

in

the fluoridated city.

I'm going to say like 90% better.

That's a guess I would, I think that's kind of the implication.

Yeah, I'd be like 90 to 100% better.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Do we reveal all in this last clip?

Yes, we do, except for the brain damage part.

She's still not

talking about that.

So the percent of kids who had tooth decay in Calgary, where there was no fluoride,

was 65%,

whereas in Edmonton, where fluoridation remains in place, it was about 55%.

A 10% difference.

That's big.

Whoa, that's a big difference.

Big difference.

That's a huge difference.

55

versus 65 versus 65.

Wow.

That's a huge, monstrous difference that we should all, you know, risk our mental health for.

Okay.

So a decade later, voters there voted to put fluorade back in.

And he doesn't at any point say, that's not such a big difference, is it, doctor?

Or whatever's her name, whatever her title is, Pharma Lady.

professor professor so a decade later voters there voted to put fluorade back into the water that has not happened yet so uh does your experience there help inform how americans ought to be thinking about this decision certainly in the in the calgary case we

We were fortunate to be able to build this study and to demonstrate that

there are consequences to removing fluoride from drinking water.

It's not just an innocuous policy decision.

And so that information, I think, figured importantly in the decision to reintroduce the measure, which should be happening soon.

What I think I would also want to add here is that if you decide as a community, if you have a kind of a grown-up conversation and decide as a community to not fluoridate the water, that is one thing, but you have to accompany that by a discussion about what are you going to do instead, because tooth decay is not an innocuous health problem.

It's a serious health problem.

It's very common.

And perhaps most importantly, it's almost entirely preventable.

And so, what kind of a society are we if we don't prevent an entirely preventable problem that causes harm and pain?

And so then he went right back and he said, but how about the IQ issue?

And she answered the question in the final clip.

No, but no, of course not.

And he didn't beat it up anymore.

But let's go back to what she just said.

It's

55%

in the fluoridated area versus 65% in the non-fluoridated area.

That is not

preventing anything.

No.

She says, completely preventable.

She says, Kututa K is complete.

She said this, completely preventable.

How is 55%

complete?

Even it's not even half.

It's less, it's more than half people getting it with the fluoride.

How does that prove?

How does that make fluoride make it preventable?

This is unbelievable to me.

Here's the thing that

Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.

needs to explain.

The history of,

and they just call it fluoride, but it's really

hydrofluoropluorosilic acid, I believe, which is released during strip mining, phosphate mining.

And they used to just release this fluoride into the air.

But it was in the 1970s, I think, the Department of Agriculture said

airborne fluoride is causing damage to domestic animals, it's crops, it's an airborne pollutant.

So they came up with environmental regulations.

This is all, you can look this up.

Chat GPT it.

These companies had to limit their airborne pollutants.

So they were being caught in air filtration systems, which they then condense into a water-based solution.

They package that up and sold it to municipal governments.

That's what happened.

They needed to get rid of this stuff for the phosphate mining, and they just came up with this great story.

And even my Periodontis,

I told you this story.

Oh, yeah.

He was like, where do you stand on fluoride?

I said,

Don't put it in your water.

That's not true.

It saves so many children.

And then once he started looking into it, which he never did, because it was just rammed into his head in dentist school, they said, Holy crap, you're right.

This is no good.

You can get fluoride just as Bobby Diop says.

You can get it from toothpaste.

You can get it with

mouthwash.

Your dentist can put it on your teeth directly, which is probably the best way.

Yes, you can get it in the nice tray with a nice tropical fruit taste.

That is, remember, do you remember that?

When they put the fluoride,

oh, God, I used to hate that.

I don't think they do that anymore.

You get these two trays.

And you'd be sitting there, and then this tropical fruit taste would be dripping into the back of your throat, make y'all nauseous.

Yeah.

And of course, for me, the kicker was when I read Legacy of Ashes, the CIA story written by

Weiner, Daniel Weiner, I want to say.

And Uncle Don was in that book everywhere.

And I called Uncle Don.

I said, is this true?

He says, yeah, that's the way I remember it.

And what was in the book?

It says the CIA would put fluoride into enemy water camps so they become nice and docile so they could take over the camp at night.

But then this is the

PBS?

I guarantee you, Alcoa has some kind of sponsorship of PBS

because Alcoa did a lot of this.

Ugh.

People should just listen to the No Agenda Show and live longer.

Yeah, let's hope so.

Oh,

man.

I think that was the last clip.

Yeah, that was the last clip.

Okay, we are beyond our.

Uh-oh, time's up.

Time is up.

So I will.

I have two clips.

They're reasonably short.

Manga, manga, everybody.

Make Africa News great again.

I have a 45-second Africa news clip.

The 2022 U.S.-Africa Summit was meant to usher in a reset in ties between Washington and the continent.

And Joe Biden was meant to repair the harm done by Trump 1.0.

Just over two years in, those plans are being ripped apart.

In a further sign that Africa barely features in Trump's foreign policy, Washington is preparing to close several embassies on the continent, according to reporting by the New York Times.

The report report says missions in Lesotho, Eritrea, the Central African Republic, the Republic of Congo, Gambia, and South Sudan top the list of those facing closure.

The news comes on the back of sudden aid cuts to health and other social programs, trade tariffs, and visa bans imposed on over a dozen countries.

So we are giving up on Africa, as you predicted.

It's all about North Pole, South America.

Africa no longer matters.

We're pulling out our embassies, which means no more spies.

We're just done.

Do we just leave it to the Chinese?

Yeah.

Is that a good idea?

We're going to take, dude, we're going to do South America.

Which is better?

The Chinese have already taken over Africa, and

they're going to try to take over South America.

We have to stop them.

That's where we stop them.

We can't deal with Africa.

Okay.

And then finally, Canadian news.

As Canadians prepare to go to the polls on the 28th of April, current Prime Minister and Liberal candidate Mark Carney presented himself as the strongman to lead Canada against a hostile neighbor to the south.

Donald Trump is trying to fundamentally change the world economy, the trading system.

But really what he's trying to do to Canada, he's trying to break us so the U.S.

can own us.

This is going to be a great election.

They want our land.

They want our resources.

They want our water.

We want your women.

They want our country.

We're all going to stand up against Donald Trump.

I'm ready.

The United States is Canada's top trading partner by some distance, buying 75% of Canada's exports in 2024.

So Donald Trump's 25% blanket tariffs on Canadian goods and new 10% energy levy have left the country economically vulnerable, a vulnerability Conservative challenger Pierre Pollier blames on the incumbent.

You claim that you want our country to respond with strength, but after the last decade, half of which time you've been Justin Trudeau's economic advisor, our economy is weaker than ever before.

It's been the worst growth in the G7.

Since the Liberals scraped to victory in the 2021 general election, the Conservative opposition have mostly dominated in the polls.

But Donald Trump's trade war has turned the tables, putting the incumbent Liberals out in front for the first time since 2022.

Poor Canada.

I feel bad.

Why would you feel bad?

Well, because they know that

it's partially true.

I mean, it's not like we want to really own Canada, but parts of it,

parts of it will be handy to have.

And parts of it, I think, want to be part of America.

It's not like one giant country that all thinks the same.

You know, you see, because I make jokes to Canadians all the time.

It's like, oh, you know, you'll be our 51st state.

Half of them go, oh, that would be awesome.

The other half go,

Trump.

Trump, Trump, Trump,

yeah, I don't know,

I don't know, but but if you know, if we keep the we're a real problem, economically speaking, with what's happening now, so what are their choices?

What can they do?

Is it fait a compli?

They should

they should get their act together.

I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda.

Imagine all the people who could do that.

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I knew you, by the way, I knew you were fishing for something.

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Why?

Why do you have to blow the whole thing?

No one needs to know our secret signals.

It's like, it's called

precisely.

It's usually something insulting or some one-liner.

I'm thinking to myself, God, what can I say here?

He's not leading me down the right path.

You are hearing over 17 years of professional colleagues working together, knowing exactly how we live, breathe, and do our show.

It's a beautiful thing.

But then you had to go and lift the veil, show everybody you got to.

You got to lift the veil.

Well, you do it all the time.

I do.

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We don't mention the under 50s for reasons of anonymity, but we appreciate every single one of you, especially those who do those sustaining donations, which is any amount, any frequency, you make it up.

Go to noagendadonations.com and support the show with your numerology.

And again, thank you to the executive and associate executive producers for episode 1757.

Again, noagendadonations.com.

It's your birthday, birthday.

Oh, no agenda.

Amy M says, happy birthday to Richard.

April 20th was his birthday.

That's today.

Commodore Sir Jude named Ralph wishes his dad Raphael a very happy one.

He turns 85 tomorrow.

Christine Tharp, happy birthday to her husband, Mr.

Awesome, aka Ron Thorpe.

He celebrates tomorrow.

Also celebrating tomorrow.

You just heard it.

Sir Mark, happy birthday.

And congratulations to his smoking hot wife, De Maria of the Greek Kingdoms.

Chris says, happy birthday to his smoking hot wife, Margie.

She celebrates on the 22nd.

And Amy M wishes Benjamin M a happy birthday.

He turns 11 on April 24th.

Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast of the universe.

Now, before we continue, first we have a night karma.

We always break for the nights.

This is Benjamin Doolan, Poor Knight of the Wood.

He says he's had a tough couple of months and more ahead.

He He could use some health karma and love and lit from the Gitmo Nation.

On March 8th, he had a surgery to amputate his left leg below the knee.

Made necessary by a misdiagnosis about a month prior that missed a blocked artery in my left leg.

As of today, I'm still faced with the possibility of a second amputation above the knee.

I presume it's the on the right knee.

Life has changed.

Any prayers and well wishes, and of course, no agenda karma.

The show remains the best podcast in the universe.

Everybody be thinking of our night here.

Here's your karma, brother.

You've got karma.

And then we have a make-good from Ashley Williams.

This is from episode 1756.

She supported us with 333

and somehow, oh, her note got cut off.

Yes.

She's from Normal, Illinois.

And here's the full note when my Instagram account, Oh, Hey Sam's Club, hit 333,000 followers this week.

Holy crap, you need to post about no agenda.

I knew it was a sign

to make a first-time donation to the best podcast in the universe.

Aside from influencer, my tax guy says it's a real job.

I can now add executive producer to my resume, something our four human resources would undoubtedly brag about to their peers.

It was my husband Zach who hit me in the mouth early in the pandemic, and the show has been instrumental in helping us feel sane while everything has become increasingly not normal.

Follow me at OhHay Sam's Club, Oh Hey Walmart, and Oh Hey Aldi on Instagram, where I share all the things you didn't know you needed now featuring American-made goods in America.

Now, this is a good idea.

What a smart idea to be an influencer for Sam's Club, Walmart, and Aldi.

That's a good idea.

I think this, yeah, this is no dynamite.

Dynami, dynamite idea.

Yes.

Could you do?

We have Aldis out here.

How about oh, hey, no agenda?

I'm just saying, might be my agenda.

Yeah, there you go.

Oh, hey, no agenda.

Yeah, influence for us.

Thank you very much.

We appreciate and congratulations again with your executive producership and now on to the meetups

no agenda meetups take place all around the world you can find the entire list calendar at noagendameetups.com and we love it when people send in their meetup reports here's the big one from the indie april meetup sir mark and this is stay maria with a coding meetup today in indianapolis thank you for your courage amongst all the chaos Ah!

Sir Ohio Bloke, and I made it down to Indy again.

Nice to meet up with everybody.

A great time as always.

In the morning.

Nautter from Indianapolis.

Unfortunately, I am leaving early, but thank you for your courage in the morning.

In the morning, Dame Trinity, having a great time in Indy after missing the last two meetups, it's great to be back with the family.

In the morning, John and Adam, Sir PBR shrieking, coming direct to you from

the MPR studios.

Sir Benny here just watching Sir Mark using his machine that Adam always talks about.

He's having problems with it, but wish you guys the best.

Hi, this is Cindy.

Dame of the Tito's from Carmel, Indiana.

I'm here to tell you climate change is real.

We survived the tornadoes.

Hey is Gary here, and just a word out to Elon and everybody else.

What good is Doge finding all the corruption if nobody is getting arrested?

Brisky here, drinking some beer at the Blind Owl.

Yo, yo, yo, this is Emily, the currently employed Fed.

Hey, John, can we, uh, can we, Mega?

Can we make ISOs great again?

again?

Get rid of AI.

This is Syrup of the Maple bots.

I could not make the meetup today, so I sent an AI agent to do my meetup report for me.

Sounds good.

In the morning, everybody.

This is the evil Annette Miller cloning Syrup of the Maple's voice just because I freaking can.

Hi, this is Brandy at the Blind Owl hanging out with No Agenda.

They really look like they have no agenda.

Live from Indianapolis, embrace the chaos.

Embrace the chaos.

That's a good one.

Did we come up with that, or did they come up with that all by themselves?

Yeah, sounds like them.

I like it.

And thank you for putting your server in your report.

We need more of those.

Here's Leiden, the Netherlands.

Oh, these guys.

Yeah, I think they were celebrating 420 early.

Baron Rob from Leiden and Drankalvesky Pactek for another great meetup.

Thank you.

This is Rick in the morning.

Great meetup.

Great.

Oh, this fashion, Adam, big fan.

Thank you for the lot of value.

I never paid for any of it.

Hi in the morning.

So Bobby Durido in the morning.

El Dudorashi in the morning.

Hey, Pedro, in the morning.

In the morning.

Great meetup.

Thank you for organizing.

Rob in the morning.

For weirds.

Peter, partner of this evening.

Thank you very much.

This is Sir Henry.

In the morning.

All right.

Thank you very much, Light.

And we go over to Japan.

I told you these no-agenda meetups are bad.

They're worldwide.

This is the, I think, the Kyoto meetup.

Hello, Kyoto.

Come on in.

In the morning.

This is Sir Bill of Osaka coming to Osaka live from the host city of the 2025 World Expo and more importantly, the ITM Airport.

We're here at the Osaka Castle viewing the cherry blossoms and enjoying some adult beverages.

A good portion of the participants are ham radio operators.

We'd like to wish JCD 73s on his 73rd birthday.

We're all glad we were able to pressure you into renewing your call sign.

This is Sir Skolenskro.

itm it's like a party in the morning douchebag this is casey from osaka japan it's like a hanami

item from john in kyoto uh i lowered myself to come down and visit the osaka lowlanders and we had a good time but we didn't get to eat whale meat this time maybe next time

73s john this is sir 3d

we had a great meetup here in Osaka.

Hi, this is Mike.

We had an amazing meetup under the cherry blossoms and some amazing weather as well.

Really incredible.

Oh, by the way, listen to my podcast, Adult Music with the Pink Neon logo.

We talk about new classical and jazz albums.

All right.

It was the Osaka meetup, I stand corrected.

And for those hams in Japan, do you guys do digital?

I'd like to see if I can get a little QSO going with you guys on the digital hams.

Send me a note.

That should be fun.

I got 15 watts PEP.

We have a meetup taking place today.

It's the Ottawa meetup for Ottawans.

It's underway now, Liam McGuire's.

That's the venue in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

On Thursday, our next show day, the North Georgia two-year anniversary meetup, 6 o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.

And also on Thursday, it's like a party in Sacramento, 6 o'clock, Sackyard in Sacramento, California.

The Douche Devon will be hosting that.

Many more meetups throughout June, as I can see on the calendar here.

Go to noagendametups.com.

This is where you get the connection that gives you protection.

All these people will be first responders in an emergency, and you get to hang out with some fun people.

Send in reports, everybody.

Noagendametups.com.

If you can't find one near you, start one yourself.

Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

You wanna be where you won't be,

And now we have the machine versus man.

That's right.

I come up with the real ISOs, the ISOs that are made by people, by human beings.

John has moved over to the dark side, and he only does his AI-generated drivel.

Slop, slop, slop.

Do you even have any ISOs?

Oh, you know, I said you're one.

It was one last night.

One.

one iso yeah one one i'm i'm i'm using the one

this is the way it's gonna be from now on you just if you have nothing because you've been picking your own every time yeah so if you have nothing the one will back you up and you'll have a good one i have four

yeah you always have well you you have four today you'll have three

i'm gonna hold yours i'm gonna hold yours here we go here's my first This is the best podcast in the universe.

That was pretty bad.

That's you.

No, that was not me.

That That was not me.

Here's another one I have picked up.

Happy Easter to you and to all out there listening.

Yeah.

That theory has been debunked.

No, I think I really do have one that I think is worth it.

It's this one.

Oh, man.

Shows over.

Yeah.

Come on.

Sounds like AI to me.

No, that's a kid.

Oh, man.

Shows over.

That's not an AI.

That's a real kid.

Playmind.

The show was Magnifico.

I don't know, man.

Oh, man.

The show's over.

Give it to the kid.

We give it to the kid.

John, you are such a mens.

Thank you very much.

And now, everybody, it's time for John's tip of the day.

Great master, you and me.

Just a tip with JCD.

And sometimes Adam.

Created by Dana Bernetti.

So, my tip of the day is

not to buy a B-Link.

It's an anti-tip of the day.

So what I did was I decided.

Hold on a second.

Even though we didn't have official tips of the day, without a doubt, B-Link at one point would have been a tip of the day.

You were telling everybody, oh, you got to get the B-Link.

It's great.

Well, it's a cheap little computer that works until it doesn't.

Yes.

And so.

But, I mean, I'm still just hanging in there, but I decided I'm going to run Linux on this thing and see if I can do it.

But then I said, well, you know, I want to run live Linux.

Oh, Lou, you want to so just stick in that USB stick and make a run.

So you got to get in.

Okay, if you want to run a live anything, you get the ISO, which is the

image.

ISO stands for something.

I don't remember what.

Image something.

It's the image of

the disk, yes.

It's a disk.

But you want to run it.

You want to make it bootable.

And so

you want to make a live version of, like, for example, I have an ISO of Linux that I could run Mint, Mint Linux, I think it's up to version 24 or something.

It's ridiculous.

They still haven't got any good audio stuff, which is weird.

Don't get me started.

So

you need to get a copy of this.

This is a handy product anyway.

It's called Belina Etcher.

Oh, yes.

Well, anyone who has ever made a live Linux USB has a copy of Belina Etcher.

So that's my tip of the day.

Get a copy of Belina Etcher, make a live, live,

just for USB.

It also burn a disc, but it's for making live USBs, which is the easiest way to do it.

You know, it's great.

If you, here, I'm going to add to your tip.

You can actually then take your computer with you, and wherever you are, you just say, hey, can I just borrow your computer?

Bam, you jack that stick in there, you change the boot order, and there's your computer back.

Works.

First of all,

you have to go into the guy's system and change the boot order.

Yeah, you just ram F4 a lot.

It's not insulting.

Maybe it's not insulting.

But yes, you can do exactly what Adam said.

But Belena Etcher is the way to make these

is the best way, at least currently.

There's other systems that do this.

I use something else before.

But it's a good way to do it.

But you want these live, these live, and it's called live because it boots from the little, from the stick.

You don't have to install it on the machine.

And what is because if I miss, yeah?

No, I was going to say, what is the advantage of using the live, according to you, as the tip market?

That way, when you take the stick out, then it goes back to the old operating system.

You still have everything, you still have all your old stuff intact.

So, what happened to your B-link that you decided to go this way?

I'm getting

a story.

I think it's the whether it's the B-link itself, probably not the B-link itself, as opposed to the part the ssd

that is failing yes so what you're saying this is a tip when your crappy old machine craps out you can still bring it back to life with a live linux usb yeah or you could run windows off the little usb too if you wanted to no no no no is there a live windows

uh you can make it with you can make a live windows if you want whatever you do don't make a live window stick people get your bolina etcher that's what you want that is john c dvoraks tip of the day go to tipoftheday.net noagendafun.com

created by dana bernetti well we have uh quite the bonanza coming up uh on the live stream so first of all after today's show uh canary cry talk news and they will be doing some eschatology with the false prophets in the last days, which is a call-in discussion, apparently.

But tonight at 10 o'clock Eastern, a 420 bowl-after bowl Easter special, Sir Spencer and Dame DeLorean will be hanging out with Make Heroism and Mary Kay Ultra.

So you know they'll be spinning some value-for-value tracks and having a grand old time.

It's all live on the No Agenda stream, trollroom.io, or your modern podcast apps.

And we have end of show mixes from GX2, a classic that I pulled for you.

We've got Maddie J and brand new from Commodore Dubs,

who will have our customer service agent, Steve, the anonymous Indian.

And of course, we will return on Thursday for more of your media deconstruction.

I'm sure something will happen that we'll have to talk about.

Breaking news is all around us all the time.

Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, where it actually turned out a nice day today.

It's in the high 70s.

In the morning, everybody, I'm out of curry.

Boy, or Curry, curry.

Oh, thank you.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C.

Black.

We return Thursday.

Until then, remember us at Dvorak.org/slash na noagendadonations.com.

Until next time, adios mofos, a hooey hooey, and such.

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There's nothing embarrassing about a hand laying an egg, and you'd better lay one or it's your neck.

I uh give them the old needle once in a while.

I love eggs!

Egg prices are continuing.

The score of the cost of eggs has been soaring across the country.

High cost of eggs.

So, what's behind egg flation?

Pathogenic aidmian influenza, more commonly known as bird flu.

The worst bird flu outbreak in years has just swept through the country.

Tens of millions of birds have died or been slaughtered.

Bird flu has reduced the egg-laying hen population by more than 40 million.

40 million, that's astounding to think about.

That looks like eggs are the new toilet paper.

It's extremely bad news.

You might want to consider alternatives.

This is an egg replacement item.

These chickens that were laying eggs, those are mature hens, right?

So we don't get a mature hen overnight.

It takes some time for a chick who hatches out of an egg to be could be lasting us into the summer.

Can I offer you a nice egg in this trying time?

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