1756 - "AG Barbie"

Turn the plane around.

Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Thursday, April 17, 2025.

This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination Episode 1756.

This is no agenda.

Behind the trade lines and broadcasting live, parallel to Runway 24 at Stripple Airport in Amsterdam, the Netherlands.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we want to bring back Elian Gonzalez from Costa Rica.

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill.

In the morning.

Who?

Is that the guy in El Salvador?

Remember Elian Gonzalez?

Oh, the kid.

The kid.

The little kid where they put a big gun in his face and

they took him out of the country.

This is, I think, during Clinton or whatever.

No, no, no.

It was Obama.

It was Obama.

Obama.

Obama.

Okay.

Yeah, it was Obama.

And so they rousted this kid and shoved it.

They just took him out of the country and sent him to Cuba.

That was great.

Nobody made a fuss about that.

It was great.

No, it was a little bit of a fuss.

Yeah, but not like the fuss we're getting over this guy.

It was hilarious.

That was so cool.

If I recall, we had quite the field day with that.

But Elon Gonzalez?

Yes.

Of course, we did.

Poor kid.

When was that?

Hold on a second.

Nobody made a fuss about that kid.

And they took him out of the country

without a hearing.

Let me see.

Hold on a second.

He wasn't even a hairdresser.

Gonzalez.

We talked about...

Yeah, wait, 2020?

No.

2016.

Yeah,

it was at the AI.

It was the end of Obama.

Let me see.

Well, we talked about it then, but it was maybe it was during.

I don't know.

No, it was during Clinton.

Okay.

Yeah, I think it was during Clinton.

Holy crap.

Well, that's before the show.

Doesn't count.

Oh, well.

Yeah.

Anyway, I'm here in the Netherlands, John.

I sound like you're next door.

I know it.

The technology is amazing.

And I have to tell you, even though I'm getting a little too old for this

going until one in the morning on jet lag,

I'm very happy I came.

We needed this for the show.

Why?

Because I got a first-hand boots on.

Our Dutch producers have not, or any of our EU producers for that matter, have not really been doing a good job at telling us what's going on here.

Well, that is not much of a surprise.

First of all, if you drive a Tesla in Europe, you are the biggest a-hole in the universe.

People have bought other cars and parked their Tesla in the garage.

They do not drive Teslas.

And why might this be?

Elon.

Elon Musk.

What's Elon Musk got to do with Europe?

That's my point.

Going through the books over there?

Is he over there?

That's my point.

They hate him just because you're supposed to hate him.

People here.

Well, first of all, it's very gray and depressing.

That is not a big surprise.

And that never.

It can't be.

It's April.

April showers, May flowers.

Come on.

No, no.

Remember, it always rains on Queen's Day or King's Day.

So it's up until April 30th.

No.

No, it's gray and depressing.

People hate Elon Musk.

Why?

It doesn't.

Well,

as the media have them under such control over there that they yes, yes, yes, and yes again.

Wow.

And I was.

And the question is, how does the media get controlled to such an extreme that they care about Elon Musk

as a point of interest?

That's the major partners.

That's the baffling part.

But I went to a, I'm here for two reasons.

Of course, to see my daughter.

I'll see her tomorrow.

But I came for my buddy Lex's 80th birthday.

He was the guy who first hired me at Radio Veronica when I was 19 years old.

We've remained friends, and he decided to do a big party, 200 guests, hand-picked, only special people,

Casablanca-themed.

And

it was everybody from Dutch, radio, television, and music.

Anybody who was anybody was here.

And holy moly,

they are completely mind-controlled.

But with a little bit of a twist, I'll say with a little bit of a twist.

But it has to be somewhat different.

No, no, no, no.

So everybody's like, hey, Adam, how are you doing?

Yeah, I'm doing great.

Oh, you look good.

Okay.

Right after that.

Hey, you live in Texas?

Yeah.

Are you a Trump supporter?

Trump supporter?

Everyone had the same question.

Not did you vote for Trump.

Are you a Trump supporter?

I said, well, I support any president as far as I can.

But yeah, I voted for him.

And then you see their faces go, huh?

You know, it's like the switch is flipped.

But

isn't he a racist?

What?

John, I'm not kidding.

And people just like,

they couldn't compute.

They couldn't navigate me, the nice 19-year-old kid they saw come in and who they knew for 40 years, with someone who actually supports his president and might have voted for Trump.

And you see the brain freeze occur.

And

what is he doing?

We don't understand what he's doing.

Oh, okay.

Calm down.

Calm down.

And so he, and I, after

two or three of these conversations, I figured out the switch and I figured out what's going on.

So I said, let me just tell you why America voted for him.

But wait, wait, it wasn't a landslide.

Oh, oh, man.

You can just see the media.

And these people are in media, so they're in the milieu.

So that's all they're a part of.

And this is what was so great about this.

This is not Taxi Eric who drives me around.

Taxi Eric's like, we need a statue of Trump on damn square.

Okay, Eric,

we understand that you get it.

But these people in the milieu, they do not understand.

They're completely engulfed in it.

And so then I would say, well,

you know,

we have like 20 million people who came in illegally.

Say, 20 million?

So, yeah, that's probably about the right estimate.

And a million of those are criminals.

So we're getting those out.

And everybody seems to be happy.

The cities, everyone's happy with that.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

I said,

and

this gender ideology, You know, we have man, woman, no boys and girls' sports, and none of this DEI.

And they go, oh, yeah, yeah.

And that would flip the switch.

And they go, yeah, I wish we had someone who did that here.

And there it was,

because they are so completely

inundated, suppressed, told to shut up about immigration, about DEI gender ideology,

about climate change still, funny enough.

And until you explain to them what the big things were and they can all of a sudden identify, then they go, oh, then they get this kind of look of bewilderment.

And then usually they'll say, well, well, you know,

but now we have to, you know, get a big military

because America is going to desert us and Russia is going to take over.

At that point, I gave up.

Really?

It was sad.

It was sad to see.

And I think people kind of avoided me at certain times during the evening.

Oh, I bet they did.

That guy's no good.

He's crazy.

And then the Elon Musk stuff would come up.

Like, what are you talking about?

What has he done here?

Well, you know, he's part of Trump.

He's a Trump supporter.

And meanwhile, here in the Netherlands, you know, they've heard Wilders.

This was the guy, right?

He was, oh, yes, he's our Dutch Trump.

And nothing's happening.

They now,

a law went into effect, which,

what is the name of it?

Where they have to spread out the asylum seekers

throughout the country because it was only, you know, a couple of small villages, obviously, way down south or way out east who got all these asylum seekers.

So they have these asylum seeker centers and now they're spread out all over the country and people are losing their ever-loving minds.

They're burning down

city halls, you know, little, in their little towns.

They're throwing eggs at the city council and no one knows what to do.

Farmers selling their big, beautiful dairy cows at auction because, whoop, sorry.

Nitrogen, I got too many points on my cows.

Everything that George Wilders was supposed to stop has not been stopped.

It's a huge disappointment.

Really

bizarre.

It sounds very dystopian.

Well, I'm sure that this is happening in every country in Europe.

Here, the teacher.

Look at how far they went in Germany with all the hate speech stuff.

In England, where they throw somebody in jail for a tweet, a mom.

So, and of course, you know, oh, everyone says, oh, Adams, Adams, he's a believer now.

Yo, he's a, he's a, he's a Jesus freak.

And so, one or two came up to me and said, Well, you're lucky you didn't get locked up.

Well, listen to this.

One or two came up to me, people had, oh, I'm so, thank you for being so bold.

I was really, it was nice to hear that.

So, what do you mean?

Well, we have to be kind of quiet here about our Christian faith because Christians are now immediately associated with Israel and therefore you're genocidal.

Yeah,

that's the silence I had.

Really?

Yep.

Who comes up with these schemes?

Satan?

Who else could be that?

Thank you, Dana Carvey.

Yeah.

It's really, it's messed up.

It's messed up.

So.

Well, the fact that these people are all hook line and sinkered, and you're dealing with an elite group, because that party was a bunch of elitists, let's face it.

But they are the media, so this is what's being done.

And they're the media elite, which is worse.

And they're all in.

They're all in.

Hook line and sinker.

Well, no, not exactly because when you tell them the main points, and it's the exact same things they're going through here.

Yeah, but superficially at least.

Yeah.

Because, yeah, you have to talk them down.

Yeah.

But

how long do you think that works for when you leave?

Oh, no.

The minute I was gone, they were like, oh, my God, can you believe it, Curry?

Oh, what's wrong with that guy?

You might as well wear a swastika.

Yeah.

You might as well wear a swastika.

And then the next big thing here.

Okay, everybody.

Attention, attention, everybody.

Where am I?

Attention, attention, everybody.

Do not eat any backyard chickens or eggs.

Don't eat the chickens or eggs.

They are contaminated with PFAS.

Remember PFAS?

Yeah.

That nonsense?

What's it got to do with chickens?

You can't eat the chickens.

You can't eat your own chickens' eggs because they're probably contaminated with PFAS.

Oh, PFAS.

Oh, yeah.

I heard about that.

I am so sad.

I'm so sad.

There's nothing more healthy than a backyard egg.

No, not what is contaminated and seething with PFAS, whatever that is.

Wow.

Yeah.

Wow.

And then

a guy I knew.

I think you should take another trip or on the way.

Too bad you can't make a side trip to England to see what a mess that's.

They won't let me in.

I'm sure I'm on a list.

Are you kidding me?

Oh, there's that guy.

He hurts people's feelings.

Arrest him.

Rouse him.

So speaking of, it was a very nice Turkish lady married to a guy.

How is that?

He's like a bank guy or something.

Speaking of elite.

And this is his new wife.

And so she doesn't speak Dutch, a little bit of Dutch.

And as they're leaving, you know, and they're waiting for the car, and I'm talking to her.

And I said, so what's going on with Erdogan?

She says, oh, it's crazy.

Did you know, John, that there are three mayors who have been incarcerated?

Not one, three.

No, I only know about the one.

That's the only thing we've been told.

Yeah, 180 teenage students who were demonstrating, incarcerated, not arrested.

Yeah,

we did know that.

They're in jail still.

And she said, anybody who goes against Erdogan, boom, you're arrested, you're done.

That's not really being, you know, that's not really being

played up the way evil dictator Putin is,

which, by the way, they completely buy into.

Oh, no.

Yeah, we got a

defenses going here because, you know, when you guys pull out

any minute now.

And then there's the big NATO splash.

The splash.

You remember the NATO splash, which Mark Rutherford was telling us about?

The NATO splash.

Donalds, come to the NATO Hague.

We make a big splash.

Well, this is making people happy.

So they're going to shut down

two major highways.

How do you keep...

Did you write take notes?

Of course I did.

Hey,

I got to deduct this.

There's a lot of material here.

You've already overflowed the memory banks.

But it's important.

So this is the big NATO summit meeting in The Hague.

So they're going to be shutting down all two big highways

for, I think, two months.

So you won't even be able to get to Schrefeningen, which is one of the main piers on the coast.

So no beach for you.

You can't go to Miniature Town.

Majurodum, your favorite.

That's not going to happen.

Majurodom.

Miniature Town is my favorite.

They're closing that for four months.

Why?

Because of the big splash.

So retail, of course, you know, these are the busiest months for them, summer months.

Nope.

Nope.

All of that is screwed.

They're putting Patriot and Stinger missile installations into the dunes.

You know, because you never know.

You never know what might happen.

Someone might try to get those NATO guys.

It's going to cost about 100 million Euros.

Wait, so what you're telling me is that because Trump's going to show up at a a meeting at NATO and all the NATO guys are going to get together.

Who said Trump's going?

I don't even think Trump will show.

Why would he?

I don't think he should.

No, why would he?

I would recommend against it.

This is crazy.

Yeah, so the Dutch are.

And then...

And so they're army.

So what they're doing is

they're fortifying.

They're spending all this $100 million.

to fortify the area in and around the meeting spot

to prevent Putin from attacking.

Yes, yes, of course.

And destroying NATO on the spot because there's this opportunity.

That's it.

That's it.

You're right.

And in the process, they're going to shut down all the businesses, all the highways, all the fun, all the miniature land and everything in between.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's right.

Really?

Yeah.

But wait.

What idiots.

But wait, there's more.

What were the two things that...

Well, there were two things that were promised definitely would happen with the formation of the European Union, which was you won't need a passport to get between all the countries in the European Union.

We'll have the same money.

Don't worry, it's all going to be great.

You'll have the same money.

And we'll never ever have a European army.

Oops.

We know that's broken.

What was the other thing we'd never ever have in the European Union?

I don't know.

A federal tax from Brussels.

Oh, the federal tax.

Oh, well, wouldn't you know it?

2027, everybody will now, in addition to your local country taxes,

will have a EU tax.

And this tax will be based on, oh, what do you think it could be?

Whatever it is, it's not good.

Your carbon footprint.

No.

Yes.

Based on...

The amount of gasoline you use in your car.

Oh,

that means the people, they have the great advantage in the 10-minute city.

Yeah, well, that would be next.

Based upon gasoline or diesel you put in your car, or some they still use liquid petroleum gas sometimes here.

I don't think that much anymore.

And any natural gas, if you are still one of those people who has, God forbid, natural gas, if you're not, if you have a gas oven or a gas stove, well, you're going to get dinged.

And I didn't know this, but they have already published the

EU carbon permits price.

This kind of snuck in, or I guess they approved a certain market.

So currently,

one ton of CO2 will cost you 67 euros, but they say by the time the tax goes in, it could be between 100 and 200 euros a ton, which would mean most people would wind up paying between 300 and 500 euros a year extra just for the carbon tax.

And that's always the beginning.

So I don't blame these people for being in a bad mood.

Yeah.

I'm in a bad mood.

This is Musk's fault, by the way.

Yeah.

Musk, the guy who actually is trying to help you get away from your carbon tax.

Oh, no.

So,

yeah.

It was

bizarre.

Just bizarre.

Good to see everybody, though.

I was the one smiling.

Hey, everybody.

I'm from Texas, y'all.

Texas.

That was the clincher.

That would definitely be the clincher.

I'm from Texas, y'all.

From Texas.

So, yeah, so that was

that was the big

travel report.

Oh, one other thing.

Yes, I forgot.

As a part of the climate change, I had lunch with Tiffany, my sister today.

And she's saying, yo, yeah, because she and her husband,

they like to travel.

So they'll, you know, it's easy.

She works at Spole, so she has all kinds of discounts and she can move around easily.

And so they'll, they'll go to Spain or Italy for a couple of days, you know, whatever it's because she runs a couple of these stores here.

So she had a

pretty intense job.

So she gets to take time off.

And she says, but you know, we don't have any,

what was the term?

Flischkamte.

Flischkamt.

Flying shame is a term here.

Do you have flying shame?

Flying shame.

Flying shame, yes.

Flischamte.

Does that get something to do with your carbon footprint?

You bet.

The more you fly, the dirtier you are.

You should be shamed of flying.

They call it flying shame.

Wow.

Yep.

Good show title.

But it's okay for DiCaprio and the others with their private jets to be flying constantly all over the place for these climate summits.

Don't try and bring any logic into the equation.

That's really not going to help at all.

Apparently not.

In other news,

they didn't blow up?

No, I do have the Katy Perry commentary, though, which is kind of a blow-up.

Well, I have a couple of things I want to mention, but

let's do your commentary.

Katy Perry.

This is what happens after you take a 12-minute flight into space.

I don't know.

They don't even get into space, really.

They just kind of shoot up into the air.

I don't know what, what was the altitude they finally achieved?

80,000 feet, maybe.

I don't know.

Okay.

I hope they can see the unity

that we modeled and replicate that and understand that we weren't just taking up space, we were making space for the future.

And

for me, like Gail said, this wasn't a ride, it wasn't a destination, it was a journey and it was a supernatural one.

And

my journey has always been about love and belonging.

And I think that we have all felt that sometimes we weren't worthy or we didn't belong in certain ways, no matter all the accolades, no matter all the studying, no matter anything.

And I think today we all said it like we belong here.

This is where we belong, and we feel very sure of that.

So

I think that you'll you'll never know the amount of love that you have inside of you to give and to receive until the day you launch.

Oh, okay.

Because you're leaving all the love behind and you're surrendering and you're hoping that you get another chance to love them again.

And so when you come back down, you're like, oh, I get another chance that I'm going to give you a chance.

Oh, my God.

Go ahead.

No, I'm crying.

Okay.

That's your brain on drugs, children.

You know, I'm going to

go.

That is exactly right.

I'm going to go

your brain on drugs.

I got to go a little deeper on this one because this was, of course, all about women, women being teams, women doing their thing, women being women, women being feminine, women being just the best in the world, making space, taking space.

Here's an NBC report.

Blasting off for 11 unforgettable minutes.

The first all-female space crew in more than 60 years.

One, two, three,

take a space!

Woo!

Including pop star Katy Perry and journalist Gail King, along with Lauren Sanchez, the fiancé of Blue Origin founder Jeff Bezos.

Look at the moon.

Look.

The historic six, marveling at the moon and the Earth.

And you look at it and you're like, we're all in this together.

While floating for four minutes, Katy Perry, weightless with a daisy in hand.

Her daughter's namesake.

New Shepherd's booster rocket landing first.

Takes a perfect landing, right?

This reusable booster that took them up now safely back on the ground, the massive rocket ready for its next mission amid the space tourism boom.

Then, in front of a star-studded crowd, the astronauts all smiles back on Earth.

It's about making space for future women and taking up space and belonging.

Amanda Wynne, emotional.

After becoming the first Vietnamese woman in space,

she's a survivor of sexual assault,

carrying aboard a painful reminder.

And it's the hospital, man.

For anyone who's ever had to struggle through life circumstances that weren't their choice, I want you to know that you will make it through.

And those magical moments on board, the start of a shared space sisterhood celebrated amongst the stars.

All right, so that was the the main theme.

It was.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

This is the worst.

Well, this is where it got bizarre because they had the Blue Origin debrief.

Now, mind you, they're just selling tickets to go on this 11-minute roller coaster ride because they said, oh, could everybody in the audience who was an astronaut stand up?

And that's like 100 people.

You know, they only publicize this one, but it goes up all the time.

Rich people going up.

It's like an expensive amusement park ride.

So this is all about women.

It's about about the women.

Everything is woman.

We are woman.

Women, women, women of Blue Origin, Team Blue, women, women here, female host, woman.

I don't know if that would ever get old if I were you guys to hear that I am an astronaut.

And an unbelievable thing you guys can now say that you are.

We are going to hear from all of you guys in a second, but there are over 10,000 employees here at Blue Origin.

There are so many people that have put their heart and soul and their brains into this operation to make it possible to do what you guys did today.

How many times are you going to say you guys to this group of women?

You guys, you guys, what happened to that not being a thing?

Yeah, you used to be condemned for saying that.

You guys, you guys, it should be at least gals.

Oh, that's worse.

And then, so first up

is Sanchez.

And I don't know, I don't know if

she must have not had a chat with Jeff about

space.

I mean, space is, you know, it's about getting out there and exploring new worlds and new civilizations and going to places and learning about where we possibly could move to.

Am I right?

Grab a few rocks.

Isn't that kind of the idea of privatized spaceflight?

It's to go out and...

And we're excited about maybe Mars or maybe

returning to the moon.

Well, Sanchez didn't get the memo.

Thank you so much, Audrey.

There's so many things that I just thought about as I heard you speaking, and I want to get into it with all of you guys.

Lauren, congratulations.

I'm going to start with you.

In researching

this entire process, I heard a lot about the overview effect, and it was something that I didn't know anything about.

The overview effect.

Okay.

So remember, it's supposed to be about going to new places, commercial space travel, the future, the world, the universe is our oyster.

What I have learned that you now will be able to share, to experience, is because when people that go up to space and see Earth from space, they come back and their perception of Earth is different.

We have one planet because out there, it's dark.

It is,

you know, William Shatner even said this when he went to space, and now I understand what he was talking about.

It's like death.

And.

Baby, baby, we're supposed to want, people want to go out.

Don't tell them it's death out there.

No, it just made me want to.

Yeah.

Just come back with an open heart.

And

it really opened me, wide open.

And hopefully I can bring that

to other people and also just protect this planet we're on.

I mean,

this is the only one we've got.

So I'm completely and utterly humbled by this experience.

Wow.

And

beyond grateful.

Worst endorsement ever.

It's death.

That's a great.

I mean, you know, I'm going to give you

a borderline.

Borderline clip of the day for that.

Well, I'll take a borderline.

Borderline.

Clip of the day.

Because what she's, this is a negative sales pitch.

It's like,

we're all doomed.

This is the only planet.

We don't really understand how doomed we are until you take this horrible trip.

It's death.

It's death, I tell you.

Now, let's just talk about symbolism.

So, this rocket is called the New Shepherd.

Who was the old shepherd?

The good shepherd.

Jesus.

Okay, so this is the new shepherd.

Oh, fine.

Katie Perry's uniform.

A Baphomet insignia on her uniform.

There was?

Yes.

She's got, she holds up a monarch butterfly butterfly inside the capsule.

Yes.

And by the way, The Rockets of Dildo.

We've all seen the dildo.

Well, we know the rocket's a dildo.

That's been long since established.

And so I was,

I didn't catch it live.

I thought they had the dildo rocket on the back of a lot of these jerseys that they were wearing.

Well, why not?

So.

It was kind of odd because I recall when Bezos went up the first time, they had capsule live footage.

And they didn't have that this time.

You only had audio.

And so by the time they got, and maybe that was a, just a, what do they call it?

A glitch.

So you only had audio.

And then by the time they got back down, then an hour or so later, they had some in,

you know, the in-capsule video and them floating around, Katy Perry with her monarch butterfly.

But they changed the audio of,

I think, I'm I'm pretty sure it's Katy Perry, of what she was

screeching about when she was up in space.

So, this may be hard for you to hear.

I don't know if the trolls will be able to hear it, but and I'm not even going to tell you what she says because I don't want to put it into your mind, but

she'll say it twice.

Oh, the moon!

You guys, I will have to tell you, look at the moon!

Oh my god!

Oh my goddess!

Now, what did you say?

Oh, my goddess!

Yes, of course.

Of course.

To the evil goddess.

Oh, that's interesting.

And that has been cut out of the video they've published.

You only hear an oh, my goodness, so much.

Play it again.

Okay.

Oh, the moon.

You guys.

I will have to tell you.

Look at the moon.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my goddess.

Now, if you play it backwards, she says, hail Satan.

But I'm telling you, I hear oh.

anything you play backwards says that.

But this is creepy.

You know, she used to be a gospel singer.

She completely, and there's some interview of her out there saying, yeah, I was a gospel singer and I love the church.

And you know, I had a friend, I don't have, I have a friend of mine

used to work in her managerial crew or something.

For Katy Perry.

Katy Perry.

And

he told me that

she had told him that she would sell herself to any, she was just anything to be famous.

She would give up anything.

And she made a big fuss about this.

So she's obviously, this is what happened.

Yes.

I don't think it's even a question, which is why I was joking about her, you know, being a Satanist.

No, it's not a joke.

It's not a joke.

And then add in the MK Ultra monarch butterfly and all of the symbolism.

And seriously, if you look at her uniform Baphomet,

it's getting a little thick.

It's too much.

We're catching on to you guys.

Back off, lady.

Back off.

Exactly.

Back off.

Baphomet would have her back off.

The devil always overplays his hand.

It's true.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, we can go lots of places from here.

I think we've handled that.

Did you see Tucker by any chance i did not see tucker but i i know he talked to a couple of interesting people lately do you have some clips yes we should be listening to yeah i do he talked to kurt weldon who was uh it was actually uh i think he was a pretty powerful republican uh representative around uh oh he's the one who discussed 9-11 yes and the whole episode is completely worth listening to uh so i just pulled a couple of clips it's just it's just the flavor, just a taste of what it is.

But it's very interesting that he, at this point, when everyone's so focused on JFK, RFK, MLK, Epstein, he's saying, no, no, we've got to got to open up the true files on 9-11.

And he just went all off on it.

Do I think 9-11

is

going to be the biggest scandal in our lifetime and beyond?

Yes, I think it's going to be the biggest scandal in the history of America because it occurred on U.S.

soil.

And because it is so recent that we have relevant information still available.

That's right.

We have recorded information.

We have personal information.

Once people realize they can talk and not be afraid of being killed or not being afraid of being ostracized.

And you know what gets me is reporters who call people

conspiracy theorists.

Well, that's all the agency does.

They're the ones that create the conspiracies.

I'm aware.

I mean, cut me a break.

I'm aware.

They have whole courses for their agents on how to make people look like they're conspiracy theorists.

And the propaganda operations designed to discredit.

Exactly.

Right.

And all we want is the truth.

Of course.

So, Trump, appoint people of impeccable integrity.

Let them study the facts.

I will testify under oath everything I know about intelligence.

Let these 3,000 architects who are risking their careers, making nothing, let them testify under oath.

So they really just, he started a big big ruckus after this happened, after the 9-11 report came, even before that.

And so they, you know, they really took this guy down.

He's got a whole story about that.

And he goes into who made money off of this.

And of course, you know, there was

the Iraq invasion, et cetera.

But in these clips, he focuses on, you know, what can we prove?

And of course, we all heard the explosions.

It's kind of interesting that, you know, I think Tucker is even surprised.

Has he not seen any of the Alex Jones

four-hour-long movies?

I mean, come on, everyone my age has seen these.

There has been this subtle pressure to the firefighters and to the officers not to talk for obvious reasons.

You know what this involves politically.

Look what happened to the chief of L.A.

The female chief of L.A.

comes out and says that the resources were taken away from her for the fuel forest fires.

And what does the mayor do?

She fires her.

That was just a few weeks ago.

The firefighters are always a scapegoat.

That's why, Tucker, I'm done with this.

It was the last thing I do.

Firefighters are not going to be taken for granted anymore.

We're going to rise up.

We're going to shake the country to its roots.

Firefighters are not second-class citizens.

Well, they certainly shouldn't be.

But if they talk,

they'll get sidelined.

They'll be called crazies.

Even though they heard explosions,

they can't be allowed to say that.

They heard explosions?

Yeah, absolutely.

That's on tape.

What?

We have people coming out of the buildings.

I know.

I know.

I mean, the number of people that said they heard explosions right after the event is numerous.

Forget Alex Jones.

It was on NBC.

They were all on television saying they heard explosions.

Yep.

Explosions.

We have film footage.

And people didn't know.

This is bull crap.

What, that Tucker didn't know?

There's something fishy about Tucker being aghast at this.

Well, maybe.

Everybody heard these guys talking about explosions, whether they believed it or not.

You know, Tucker is the first to say, and I think he even says it in the last clip, that he's embarrassed that he was all in he told people who said building seven you know you know was was um was imploded uh he called them nut jobs he does say that i'm i i having seen these people last night reminded me when you were in that milieu you're at he was at cnn at the time what do you think he was he's supposed to believe

you know he heard it from uh from insiders from sources say from his colleagues from the top brass

why would he question it?

I'm going to give him a half pass.

That heard explosions.

We have film footage of people that talked to Fox News that was taken off the air, and then now that was brought back by X.

That's all available.

That's why you need a commission to go back and look at all these.

So there are, and pardon my ignorance,

but there are people on tape saying I heard explosions.

Yes, absolutely.

100%.

There's gambling going on there.

I can't believe it.

Well, hold on a second.

I have to back you off on this idea that, okay, he was working for CNN at the time.

But since then,

where has he been?

That he's shocked.

This interview was like within the last week.

So until within the last week, he still hasn't heard about somebody talking about the explosions?

You know, remember, this is the guy who the NSA spied on him when he was trying to go to.

I think he was pre-I'm just still going to give him a quarter pass now, that he was, you know, being spied on by NSA that he was going to Russia they released his text messages so he may just not you know he was looking at JFK RFK MLK Epstein maybe it just wasn't top of mind here's the last clip they are the only high-rise buildings in the world that have ever come down from an airplane hitting them and those buildings I read the report from the architect who designed them they were designed to withstand an airplane hitting the building and standing tall and especially building seven which had no plane hit it right No plane hit it.

And the building just, you can see it.

When you watch it on TV, it just implodes straight down.

And what really got me again was Oreo Palmer, that the battalion chief arising on the.

Well, tell us who he was.

What is.

Oreo Palmer was one of the most inspirational battalion chiefs in New York.

FDNY.

FDNY, who immediately, in very good shape, had a family, a couple of.

What was that, by the way?

FDNY.

What is that?

That was an odd little thing to throw throw in there.

That's like a code.

Yeah, yeah, something going on there.

Real Palmer was one of the most inspirational battalion chiefs in New York.

FDNY.

FDNY, who immediately, in very good shape, had a family, a couple of kids, went in the building as soon as they got on the scene, took the elevator up to the 40th floor.

Got off the elevator, and you can hear him on the comms system say, I'm here, 40th floor.

We're going to start walking up the stairwells.

Every five floors, he radios back to communication.

I'm on the 50th floor.

Everything's okay.

We're on floor 60.

Everything's okay.

He's going up.

Every so many floors, he gives a report.

He reaches the 78th floor, the floor of impact.

He comes out of the stair tower.

And as clear as you listening to me here, and I know I get passionate, I apologize to your listeners for that, he says, we're on floor 78, the floor of impact.

We've got two fires, and we can handle them.

One minute later, the whole building collapses.

That's not normal.

That is not acceptable.

That is not what happened.

And this is on tape?

It's on tape.

It's on tape.

Yeah,

the whole interview is good.

I mean, he doesn't really.

They bring up the point about my favorite one, which is Building 7, where they had the guy on mic on one of the networks saying, pull it.

It was the BBC.

It was the BBC.

It was the BBC.

Pull it.

Yeah.

No, no, no, I know it.

No, at first, the BBC

is saying

Building 7 has collapsed, but it was 20 minutes before it collapsed.

You see the BBC person with Building 7 in the background.

Then they have, now I don't know where that tape came from,

but I've heard it too.

Pull it, pull it.

Yeah.

Were they going to pull it?

Yeah, I'm a little fuzzy on it too.

It was, after all, 24 years ago.

But yeah, that's what we all should be moaning about.

Forget the Epstein files.

No.

Sorry.

No,

no.

Did you hear that there's a book coming out about Bill Gates?

I can imagine.

Yeah, the book, let me see, what is it?

I think The Economist reported on this today.

And that they had to hide the young interns from Bill Gates.

Well, that's not news to the No Agenda Show, listeners.

But

in Redmond, are they talking about his normal

Bill's normal activities?

Bill Gates.

They used to be.

I'll give you a story.

Let me read the headline first so we can set this up.

There's a new book coming out called Billionaire Nerds Save Your King, Bill Gates and His Quest to Shape Our World.

And so the big

headline is Bill Gates' infidelity, in quotes, saw Microsoft management keep young interns away from the tech mogul.

Uh-huh.

The guy who was just doing business, just trying to get a deal done with Jeffrey Epstein.

Nothing more.

Just some business.

So here comes John's story, everybody.

Well, so before Bill was married to Melinda, who's now having issues with her psychology, I don't know what there's, I sent you a link.

Oh,

he used to, he used to go out, he used to take and bed as many of the cuties as he could at the company.

And of course, the word was he liked small petite blondes was his real goal.

And

because it would cause a stir in the executive suites, they would give these,

because the girls would be mad because they never see Bill again.

And he was not a, you know,

he was not a good, not a good follow-up guy, is what you're saying.

Not a follow-up guy.

And so they'd start to make a fuss and they'd ship the girls to Australia,

Microsoft Australia, and with a lucrative job.

Good day, mate.

And they'd say, would you like?

And to the point, now, this is of all Microsoft folklore, and I'm pretty sure it's true because I heard it from more than one person.

Some of the new girls would come in and this word got around.

And so they start to wear t-shirts and said, hey, Bill, pick me

because they wanted to go to Australia.

Now,

I'd like to have one of these.

There's got to be some woman out there who actually was shipped to Australia.

What we want is one of those t-shirts.

That's another collectible idea.

That's the collectible.

Tell me we aren't the best podcast in the universe.

Where else will you get a boots on the ground story like that?

That one, by the way, I have heard Bill Gates stories from you, but I do not remember the, hey, Bill Pickme t-shirts.

Yeah, hey, Bill Pickbay.

I didn't want to trip to Australia.

The older you get, the more good stories come out.

I'm kind of digging it.

I got a million of them.

You get old.

I woke up today.

First of all, you woke up.

It's a good day.

Believe me, it's a huge plus.

It's a good day.

So I got a tune in my head.

You know, you get a tune worm.

Yeah, yeah, a little earworm, a diddy.

You got a little.

And where this came from is beyond me.

But it went,

I took about two or three hours to get rid of it.

It was hearing

Frankie Valley singing Two Faces Have I.

What song is that?

The Four Seasons song.

I don't know.

Two Faces Have I, one to Laugh and One to Cry.

Oh.

And I haven't heard that song for 30 years.

And now I'm hearing it.

I'm thinking, what?

And once you get the...

the hang of listening or hearing that song in your head, you get to all the lyrics and you, you know, pretty soon.

I had the whole song down

in falsetto.

But what's interesting is that I know a lot of Frankie Valley songs.

I can't remember.

I know.

Lou Christie.

You sure it's not Lou Christie?

Two faces have I, one to laugh and one to cry.

Oh,

well, let's do it quick.

Well, here's a little.

I don't want the world to know.

That sounds sounds like Frankie Valley, but that's actually Lou Christie.

I don't want my heart to show.

Two faces have I.

Well,

we need a rematch.

That's the song.

That's the song.

And I, because of the voice, I have to say.

I'll give you a pass.

Yeah, we would say, you would think it's Frankie Valley, for sure.

Yeah, because that's what I was hearing.

I was hearing the song.

I didn't, you know, I didn't have by Frankie Valley, but that's what I didn't realize that Lou Christie sang that because that's a that's a Frankie Valley song, if ever there was.

Now, did you take a gummy last night before you went to bed?

No, I did not.

I haven't had a gummy for years.

Oh, wow, we missed those days.

John and his gummies.

That's a great song, by the way.

Yeah,

Lou Christie.

Wow, I like the alpha and the chipmunks in the background.

So happy!

That's great.

That was the era of the falsetto.

Yes.

Later brought back by the Bee Gees in my day.

Yeah, but that was the end of it.

Oh, yeah, and it had to end.

It had to end.

That was a hard thing to do.

It's hard to sing.

Yes.

Sing with that voice.

Oh, wow.

Well, as far as i'm concerned we're done this is a great show i think we've uh we've nailed it we nailed it

what more do you need to talk about since we're talking about drugs oh yes

i have a couple ketamine clips that i thought were fascinating okay i didn't know ketamine was still in the news but maybe this is related to elon is that what uh well talking comes to mind obviously and others yes kevin rose we know personally yeah kevin rose he's not bashful about it we can say it he doesn't doesn't know about it.

It's always

disturbing to me when somebody is bragging about a drug.

Yeah.

But this is an interesting.

They were doing, they did a bunch of studies on

giving, unknowingly giving, like, well, I guess they signed off on something.

But people had a traumatic operation that was of some sort.

They would give them ketamine

besides the anesthetic.

No, it's

a pharmaceutical.

I mean, mean, it's

what it's used for.

Yes, what it's for.

And so they'd come out of it, and then

they had the psychologists that would ask them about

how they feel now, and

then they told them about the ketamine.

You got some ketamine.

How do you feel better?

And they went on and on about it.

And I think it revealed a couple of interesting facts.

And here we go.

So in the group that did get ketamine, 60% of those patients felt better the day after surgery.

And most of those people had stayed better when the researchers checked on them two weeks later.

Wow.

So for context, Gina, this is much faster than something like Prozac or Zoloft, which could take at least a month to see results and has to be taken every single day.

Right.

So Boris says they figured.

Hold on.

What is it?

What is this?

Right.

Oh, wow.

Is this new at

the NPR thing where they get to these

wannabe podcasters that are on the air and they're chatting it up?

Yeah, it sounds like notebook LM.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Deep dive.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

And has to be taken every single day.

Right.

So Boris says they figured, okay, ketamine works even under anesthesia.

So even if the patient doesn't know that they actually got it.

So it wasn't just Cindy who felt better.

Boris told me about a different patient, not Cindy, he also talked to.

This was like her, you know, and like fifth like cancer surgery.

Like this has been a recurrent cancer.

He saw this patient a couple days after her surgery.

She was almost like dancing.

This is, you know, someone who had like a lot of stuff in their belly, like still had drains, bandages.

She was like, you know, it was infectious.

I thought to myself at the time, like, if if she didn't get ketamine, like, I'm quitting.

Like, I don't know, like, or, or even, I mean, in retrospect, it was more like, I want to know what, like, what we did.

This guy is on ketamine.

I can tell.

He's like,

that's a good point.

He probably is.

Yeah.

Oh, like, or, or even, I mean, in retrospect, it was more like, I want to know what, like, what we did so we could do it again.

And she was at the placebo group.

That's good.

So statistically, there was no difference between people who got ketamine and people who got placebo.

Forrest told me the people who got placebo, they got so much better, they were indistinguishable from the patients who got ketamine.

And even Cindy, who did get ketamine and did feel like it helped her depression symptoms, told me she thought about whether it was really the drug that helped her or other parts of the study.

Wow.

Like, what was it that really made her feel better?

Wow.

Well, they finally do a placebo study, and what are they doing on ketamine?

I have a couple other drugs I'd like you to try that on.

Let's listen to the second part of this.

So you're saying that even though she got ketamine, her feeling better could also have been like related to these other parts of the experience, like working closely with Boris and like feeling like people are actually like listening to her.

Exactly.

And she told me that she wondered, like, how far would it take other people who were struggling with something like depression if they just had this same kind of support that she got from Boris and her surgery team?

Yeah.

And And who doesn't respond to love and kindness, right?

Boris told me that a lot of patients seemed to think that if they felt better, they probably got ketamine, even if they didn't, which to him points to this expectation or hope that patients might have about being in a study where they might get some kind of drug at all.

You know, there's a lot of the same reactions.

Like, well, I, you know, I can't explain it either.

But this, it's important.

It's, you know, I got better.

In some cases, they stayed better.

But that could have just been the placebo effect.

Yeah, I mean, that's what Boris is saying.

And what he really emphasized to me is that placebo can sort of be seen as this fake thing or a sign of failure in a study, but there's science supporting its effectiveness.

It can actually change our brain chemistry, but people often see it as this imaginary treatment.

Imaginary is like something that doesn't exist.

This is a real thing.

And placebo has real biology behind it.

And it is one of the most valuable treatments we have in medicine, full stop.

Wow.

It's like that expectation.

Well, there you go.

That's an interesting twist to the story.

That's what I thought.

Huh.

So I guess, well, you know, NPR is not, I don't think they're in on the springtime big pharma buy.

That may be true.

Everybody else was.

The point, yes.

But the point of that whole discussion, and it went on, that was just a piece of a longer piece.

And it was that

it may be the placebo plus the attention

is all it really took to get people back on track.

And ketamine doesn't do jack.

Except for the dissociative stuff that it does do to people, that does have a psychedelic effect.

So maybe, maybe a lot of these, like Zoloft and Xanax.

By the way, I've tried a Xanax.

I'm like,

nothing for me.

And I used to be a professional drug user.

I'm like, man, this is nothing.

It takes, it takes, like they said, it takes a long time before it catches up to you.

No, that you're supposed to take a Xanax and, oh,

man, I feel so loose.

Maybe a lot of these drugs are just so you can say, oh, I've got to take my meds.

Oh, I just took my meds.

That could be.

It's very possible.

This study sounds like it, makes it sound like that.

It's like the placebo effect.

And you might as well give you nothing.

So we had the big, the big pharma buy, the springtime buy, and the buy was not specifically for any medication, but it was to basically say

autism is not caused by vaccines.

Everybody had the story.

We begin here tonight with a mystery.

The mystery of autism, the developmental condition that can affect the ability to communicate and interact socially.

We're beginning with it because the CDC is reporting a sharp rise in the number of children who have it, more than 3% of eight-year-olds.

And because today the Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F.

Kennedy Jr., called the rate of autism alarming and ordered up studies to determine the cause by September, something scientists have been working on for decades.

There are clues, but no conclusions.

We're joined now by CBS News medical contributor, Dr.

Celine Gouders.

Hey, Celine.

So today, Secretary Kennedy announced that we were going to be, as a country, investing more money through the NIH to research the causes of autism.

He has previously stated that by September, we would have some definitive answers.

It is extremely unlikely we're going to be getting there and we'll talk about that more after this

story.

But I think it was very interesting that he did not mention vaccines at the press conference today.

Which was of course what everybody kept saying last week.

Oh, he says it's because of vaccines.

It's because I don't think he's actually said that.

He's spoken of mercury and that would come into adjuvants, which I don't think is being used much anymore.

But they all were so convinced.

Oh, he says it's because of vaccines.

And then he didn't say it.

What?

The ASD prevalence rate in eight-year-olds is now one in 31.

Shocking.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.

pointed to new evidence that the U.S.

is seeing, in his words, a growing epidemic of autism.

The epidemic is real.

In his words.

Notice that?

Not from the CDC.

Oh, no, it's in his words.

A growing epidemic of autism.

The epidemic is real.

CDC data shows one out of 31 children has been identified with autism.

The previous report two years earlier found a rate of one in 36.

If the epidemic is an artifact.

Hold on, stop.

Stop.

I got this clip too.

What's interesting is they

drop it from 1 to 36 to 1 in 31, and they refuse to mention the 1 in 100,000 number.

Oh, from 1990?

Or 1970 or whatever it was.

Yeah.

It was like, it may be 1990, actually, maybe that recent.

But the number starts off at 1 in 100,000, and then it went to 1 in

500

or something.

I think they actually have those numbers, but not from the 1 in 100,000.

All these reports leave that out.

Yeah.

Well, hello.

They push the following.

They push, well, it was 1 in 36, now it's 1 in 31.

So it says minor.

And it went from here to there.

Yeah.

And they leave out the big giant numbers.

That's the trick.

That's the trick.

Yep.

Found a rate of one in 36.

If the epidemic is an artifact, a better diagnostic criteria or better

recognition, then why are we not seeing it in older people?

Why is this only happening in young people?

The American Academy of Pediatrics has disputed Kennedy's characterization, attributing rising rates to the fact that more children have access to evaluations.

And I think there is more awareness.

But Charlie, there's something.

Stop.

So that was a contradiction of what they just reported.

Kennedy made the point, which they don't emphasize, which is that if it's true that it's just a difference in diagnosis, then how come we don't see it in the misdiagnosed adults that are living and floating around today to the extent that we're seeing it in kids?

Because they're all high on the placebo effect.

That's why.

So they're all left out of it.

And so then then they, she immediately, this woman doing this report, she immediately drops, is this the doctor out of it?

Yeah, yeah, Celine Gounder.

Yeah, she drops that little tidbit and skips it.

Yep.

And then goes on with it, with taking it further into the wrong direction.

She is a misdirection expert.

Attributing rising rates to the fact that more children have access to evaluations.

And I think there is more awareness, but clearly there's something else.

Teresa Hamlin has worked with teens and adults with autism for more than 40 years at the clinical and research organization, the Center for Discovery, where she's the CEO.

These are new cases, and there's more and more of them.

And how do you know it's not just better detection?

These are not kids that would have been diagnosed with speech disorders or emotional disorders.

These are true kids with autism spectrum disorders, and you wouldn't have missed them.

Kennedy has for years promoted a link between vaccines and autism.

That theory has been debunked.

Debunked.

Notice how they always say debunked.

Instead of saying scientifically proven,

even saying there is no evidence, they always, with this particular one, they always say debunked.

What is the actual translation?

What is the meaning of that?

This is not the only issue that they use the word debunked to an extreme for.

There's another one that just came up recently.

They said it was debunked.

Well, so it means, to debunk means to expose the falseness or sham of something.

So it's more than just not true.

It's a sham.

Yeah, like a hoax.

Yes, yes.

Which is it's questionable that they use that term every single time.

I agree now that you mentioned it.

I didn't think about it, but now that you mention it, I think you're right.

You're right.

Whoa, everybody, write it down.

Write it down.

Oh, that is what we call the gazebo effect.

Kennedy has for years promoted a link between vaccines and autism.

That theory has been debunked.

The secretary announced plans for.

I like that.

Do a little nat pop.

That has been debunked.

Oh, that was interesting.

Clap, clap, clap, clap.

Yes, good.

This is good.

You wouldn't have picked that up on the television.

It would have been subconscious.

Yeah.

I didn't even hear it the first time I listened to this.

Kennedy has for years promoted a link between vaccines and autism.

That theory has been debunked.

Isn't that great?

That's unbelievable.

This woman is the worst.

Vaccines and autism.

That theory has been debunked.

The Secretary announced plans for new studies to identify environmental causes for the rise in autism rates, such as mold, ultrasounds, obesity, and diabetes.

In his comments today, he did not mention vaccines as a possible cause.

Oh, no, we have nothing to moan moan about.

Let's keep going.

Dr.

Gandrick, can you get an answer by the fall to these kinds of complex questions?

No, of course not.

This is a very complicated question.

What causes autism?

It's multifactorial.

There's genetics, there's environmental causes.

Multifactorial.

Wait.

Yes.

How would they?

They don't know what causes it.

I think that's the premise of this whole presentation.

Yes.

But now all of a sudden it's multifactorial.

Yes.

It's multi-factorial.

If you don't know what causes it, how can you make that claim?

Well, she's Dr.

Celine Grounder.

Well, she's multifactorial.

Why are you questioning it?

Are you on the television?

No.

There's genetics, there's environmental causes, there's other causes, probably too.

And to tease that out, the number of people you need to study over time, I mean, if you take, for instance, the example of smoking and lung cancer, that's actually a pretty straight correlation.

And that took years, decades, to prove that.

So, to sort this out for autism, not by September.

Excellent point because the big pharma, big tobacco was buying everybody off.

That's why it took the great comparison.

Excellent comparison.

That's a perfect comparison.

Actually,

inadvertently, she made a perfect comparison.

They've been bought off.

These people.

They overplay their hand.

When it comes to potential causes that will actually be studied, does that include vaccines in any way, shape, or form?

Well, it's interesting.

He did not mention vaccines again during today's press conference, but he also said that he does not want researchers to feel constrained in terms of what questions they can be asking.

The specific things he mentioned included ultrasounds, obesity, older age of parents, exposure to air pollution and plastics.

So there are a lot of different things that could potentially be studied through this research.

That was CBS, and I have a much shorter, just one clip from ABC and one from NBC.

Let's just, because they remember this was the springtime by.

Authorities at the CDC are trying to explain what's authorities they just listen to what they're saying authorities oh oh who am I to question authority authorities at the CDC are trying to explain what's behind new numbers tonight showing that one out of every 31 children in America was diagnosed with some measure of autism in 2022 the latest figures available you are right by the way John you are right

this was the buy the buy was we're going to make it look like a little increase from one one in 36 to 1 in 31.

That's our report.

That's the news.

That's the story.

So, yes, there has been an increase, but it's only, you know, one in five.

You nailed it.

You nailed it.

That's what the springtime buy was.

That's what the springtime buy was about.

Those numbers were one in every 36 children just two years earlier and one out of every 150 children in the year 2000.

And the report shows that autism was much more common in boys than girls.

U.S.

Health Secretary Robert F.

Kennedy, who for years as a civilian helped blame autism on the use of vaccines, is underlining the new numbers tonight.

Wait, stop.

What did he say?

He helped blame?

I think that's what he said.

What was the phrase he used before blame?

The word before they used the word blame.

Let's listen.

And the report shows that autism was much more common in boys than girls.

U.S.

Health Secretary Robert F.

Kennedy, who for years as a civilian helped blame autism on the use of vaccines.

Helped.

Helped blame.

Helped blame?

Yes, helped blame.

He helped blame.

What kind of structure structure is that?

Oh, that's ABC News, bro.

I helped blame.

That's the house of Peter Jennings.

Why do you question these things?

Villian helped blame autism on the use of vaccines, is underlining the new numbers tonight.

His take on this has been rejected by the world medical community.

Oh, the world medical community.

Can I become a member of this community?

The world medical community.

It's not like the World Health Organization.

The World.

Wait.

Hold on a second, everybody.

The World Health Community.

affected by the world medical community

in my generation today the rate of autism is one in ten thousand

and this is

other health officials this evening are explaining that the larger numbers are because parents and doctors are now much more aware of the disease and are now correctly identifying more symptoms not a reason they say to buy into unproven theories that discourage Americans from using vaccines so now we have better diagnosis now notice here they say unproven unproven theories.

They're not saying disproven, scientifically proven not to be so, or even debunked.

They just say unproven theories.

You have not proved your theory, so go home.

Americans from using vaccines.

So now we have better diagnosis, broader recognition of autism spectrum.

So many children with less severe learning and behavior differences are being included in these new rates.

Autism is not new and it is not caused by vaccines.

There you go.

The buy is complete.

Send out the bill.

They don't know what causes it, but it's not caused by vaccines.

No.

It's not.

Whatever it is.

If they don't know what's causing it.

How do they know what's not causing it?

How do they know?

Exactly.

They don't know what's causing it, so they can't say it's not caused by vaccines as a flat statement.

You question.

You're right.

Again, you're right.

This is a drug buy.

of all the networks, and

these talking points had to be included.

And they all gave a report.

I bet you, if you timed out the reports, they're all advertising length.

About 60 minutes, 60 seconds, yeah, with the pre- and post-roll.

Here's the NBC version.

It is a little bit longer.

Maybe they got a double buy.

The CDC says one in 31 eight-year-olds were identified with autism spectrum disorder in 2022, up from one in 36 two years earlier.

All right, we got that one.

Check that one off the list.

Boys, wait a second.

Since you stopped it,

and they are doing this is the same exact points they're trying to make each time.

Why

don't they have any numbers from

2023 or even 2024 for that matter?

But that means it's already six months into 2025.

Why does the numbers go back to 2022 and not, and there's nothing from 2023?

I'd like to know.

Do they explain that?

Of course not.

No, please.

Up from 1 in 36, two years earlier.

Boys were more than three times as likely as girls to be identified with autism, minority children more than whites.

Almost 40% of the kids also have an intellectual disability.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.

today calling autism an epidemic.

This whole generation of kids is damaged by chronic disease.

Dr.

Alex Culvison of New York's Seaver Autism Center disagrees with Kennedy's diagnosis.

Is this report an accurate representation of how prevalent autism is in the the U.S.?

No, I don't think it is.

I don't think we have an epidemic of autism.

I think that there are a number of factors that are driving the increase in prevalence.

Such as broadening diagnostic criteria, perhaps younger age of diagnosis, and getting the diagnosis as a means of getting services, which are important for kids.

Okay, you can get your drink coupons and your check at the end of the day.

Thank you very much for appearing on our show.

And he vehemently disagrees with Kennedy's past attempts to link autism to vaccines.

The one thing we know with certainty is that vaccines do not cause autism.

How do we know this from certainty?

Certainty.

You don't know what causes it, but you know what doesn't cause it.

This makes zero sense.

You know, we have an epidemic of propaganda.

That's what we have, ladies and gentlemen.

Epidemic of bull crap.

Vaccines.

The one thing we know with certainty is that vaccines do not cause autism.

This has been studied extensively across multiple continents, and it's been well established in the scientific community.

No, it hasn't.

Science shows genetics is a factor.

Irene Lamb blogs about raising two children with autism while being on the spectrum herself.

Swan writes not just a spectrum of the one example they found.

Yeah, I gave it to my kid.

That's what they say.

Oh, you horrible mother.

Autism while being on the spectrum herself.

Swan writes not just a statistic to us.

It's more like a call to action.

As parents and science try to unlock the mysteries of the mind.

The mysteries of the mind.

Wow.

Yeah.

And of course, the real problem here is that.

By the way, it was just to interrupt.

What we just witnessed with these clips, this is where it's headed because they're going to pull the plug.

It looks like it's going to happen within the next six months.

Pull the plug on advertising by pharma companies and to keep their hooks into the big media companies.

Instead of doing advertising, they're going to be doing this more and more and more.

Wow, interesting.

Don't you think?

Now, got to do something.

You've heard for certain that they're going to pull the plug?

Yeah.

Hmm.

It's been dropped as feelers have been dropped

here and there.

It's been

prognosticated.

Now, the big problem is that they expanded the definition of autism to ASD autism spectrum disorder.

I'm on the spectrum.

I had threats.

I'm on the spectrum.

Yes, and you yourself believe it was from a shot.

Yes, totally.

Happened seven years old.

Hmm, what happened at seven?

I think I got some more shots when I went to Europe.

Yes.

So that just confuses everything because you have severe autism, what you and I would recognize.

You also got kids walking around on their tippy toes and twirling.

That's autism.

Okay.

Kids on the tippy toes twirling.

That's what kids, some kids do the stupid stuff.

All of that is on

the spectrum.

You know, and some kids are geniuses.

And oh, he's too interested in Lego blocks.

He's on the spectrum.

Yeah.

And by the way,

interesting.

A lot of these kids are interesting.

Now, you do have severe autism, for sure,

and real

retardation of mental capacity.

And we have family members where that happens.

Shot, kid got, you know, still living at home, 30 years old.

Yeah.

Now,

that's horrific.

Anyway, you and I are not going to solve it, my friend.

Nope, but we can sure ridicule these reports.

Yeah, that's easy to do.

Well, it's easy to do, but nobody does it.

No.

If you haven't noticed.

Yeah.

No, people are too busy

trying to debunk Macron's Married to Dude.

That's what everyone's.

Let's talk.

Blake Lively.

Blake Lively.

Let's talk about Blake Lively.

Blake Lively.

Yeah.

Okay.

I have

a clip that

getting to our guy, our buddy in

Costa Rica.

I don't know where he is.

Oh, yeah, the elves.

He's in there.

By the way, that guy.

He's got shape.

What is his name, Garcia?

I can't remember.

Elian.

Elon Gonzalez.

Elian Gonzalez.

First of all, I thought

he was a gay hairdresser.

Then he was a gay makeup guy.

Now he's a father, a middle-income father.

Whatever happened to

the gay part.

That person disappeared.

Yeah, that was the messaging that they were throwing at us and then trying to maybe get gay sympathy or something.

I'm not sure what the method, what the message was.

Well, they even got Rogan on that one.

Rogan was.

Yeah, Rogan was like, oh,

they deported a gay hairdresser.

They got to pull that back.

Let me see.

Deport.

Maybe.

Was that a completely different story?

I don't know.

Maybe it was, but whatever the case is, I thought this guy was the gay hairdresser.

Well, he is now.

Well, he's

probably.

Gay Venezuelan stylist sent to Salvadorian prison after disgraced cops report.

This is from Milwaukee.

Well, that guy, nothing ever happened.

That story.

That's the story, but for some reason they dropped that story.

Because these stories are all bogus.

Yeah.

Because that was Milwaukee, and this is the Maryland man.

Okay, so let's, what you got?

So I got some this is a different kind of a take on things.

This is the old brother banishment tale.

What?

The old brother banishment?

Old brother, old brother.

Oh, brother.

Banishment.

Okay.

Is this something I should understand?

Is this code?

There's no setup.

It's just, it sets itself up.

Their names were Lawrence and Cassandra Southwick.

Ford discovered the connection with his ancestors when he started digging into his genealogy as a hobby a few years ago.

The Southwicks story was interesting because they were Quakers living under a very Puritan government, so they were banished from the community.

It was for me and Quakers, yeah.

The court levied it as a formal punishment, maybe under blasphemy or heresy laws.

I don't know the exact statute they would have cited, but that was the general purpose of it.

They fled to Shelter Island in New York.

According to their memorial, according to some of the records that survive, they died of exposure and maltreatment shortly thereafter.

They were already elderly when it happened, so it was probably quite an ordeal for them to be removed from their community and sent elsewhere.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: It was a sentence of banishment that became a de facto death sentence, it sounds like.

More or less, yeah.

I think that, you know, for people who are banished from their community, it amounts to a sort of civil death, which is why you usually see legal commentators refer to it as sort of one step below the death penalty.

Well, this was an unexpected story.

Yeah, and what do you think?

How do you think they, this is like, well, let's think of a new angle to shoehorn our buddy in

in El Salvador

El Salvador?

How do we do that?

I've got an idea.

Part two.

Matt Ford is a staff writer at the New Republic, and he has been thinking about the Souths because banishment is suddenly back on the table.

President Trump, how many illegal criminals are you planning on exporting to El Salvador?

And President Bukeley, how many are you willing to take from the U.S.?

As many as possible.

President Trump has already sent plane loads of immigrants to a maximum security prison in El Salvador for indefinite detention.

This is

the...

Wow.

So we have a completely unrelated story about someone being banished from the community.

Yeah, in the 1600s.

As a Quaker.

So immediately, you do the association that Trump is so back assward that he's doing stuff that took place in the 1600s and he's trying to bring it back.

This is how far down, this is your Europeans must really visit this up.

Oh, yeah, this is some MK Ultra stuff.

Did they flash?

No, it's radio, but they might as well just flash a monarch butterfly at you.

Okay, here comes some programming.

Or indefinite detention.

The legality of that move is being fought out in the courts.

But at an Oval Office meeting with the Salvadoran president this week, Trump was looking ahead.

I'd like to go a step further.

I mean, I say, I said it to Pam.

I don't know what the laws are.

We always have to obey the laws, but we also have homegrown criminals that push people into subways, that

hit elderly ladies on the back of the head with a baseball bat.

We're number one when they're not looking, that are

absolute monsters.

I'd like to include them in the group of people to get them out of the country.

In other words, exiling U.S.

citizens for committing a crime.

Which brings us back around to Matt Ford's 11th great grandparents.

In the grand scope of American history, these practices are not unheard of, but they are also now pretty far disregarded.

Oh, nice script reading.

Pretty far disregarded.

Wow.

That's good stuff.

So this creates

a very creative twist

that is just like an eye roller.

This was a very long presentation.

I only have four clips.

But we go going to part three.

Various legal experts, you found no one who could see any basis for this.

By the way, she's starting to sound like Scott.

Listen to her.

Start it over.

Doesn't tell me I'm wrong.

Okay, hold on, hold on.

Various legal experts, you found no one who could see any basis for this in the Constitution.

Yeah, let me see.

Simon.

Various legal experts, you found no one who could see any basis for this in the Constitution.

Yeah, Shadow, we don't want to talk like Scott.

It's just fantastic.

Well, it's tough because, you know, on one hand, the courts have never really ruled on it.

That's what makes it so striking.

Because nobody's tried it.

Nobody's done it.

And so, you know, I can't find a Supreme Court opinion.

I can't point one to you and cite you one where the justices 50 or 100 years ago said banishment is unconstitutional, exile is unconstitutional.

But when you look at the grand scope of how the courts think about deportation, extradition, citizenship, it's pretty clear that it would be a disfavored practice.

And we know that also from American history.

What history book did he read?

They're also talking about the Constitution.

I think a lot of people don't understand the Constitution is a list of things you can't do.

As the government.

As the government.

It's really a

Bill of Rights, certainly.

It's like not stuff the government can't do, and then everything else.

You can make laws, you can do your own thing.

You could do banishment.

I don't see any issue because it's not, you can't, there's nothing in the Constitution that forbids it because the Constitution is about forbidding things.

And so there's nothing that forbids it.

You should be able to do this.

And in fact, they don't talk about it too much, but

people have been kicked out of the country largely like Snowden.

They took his passport away while he was in Russia.

He can't come back.

Good point.

What's the difference between that and banishment?

Well, Snowden left himself.

He left on his own accord, and then they wouldn't let him come back in.

Well, I guess that is banishment, but it didn't kick him out.

He just, he's not allowed back in.

Yeah,

yeah.

Yeah, you have tomato, tomato.

I got you.

Okay, let's wrap it up.

This is when President Trump is asked explicitly if he's talking about U.S.

citizens.

Yeah, yeah, that includes them.

Why do you think there's a special category of person?

They're as bad as anybody that comes in.

We have bad ones, too.

Matt Ford, are U.S.

citizens a special category of person under U.S.

law?

Constitutionally speaking, in many ways, they are.

I mean, American citizens are the only ones who can vote.

They're the only ones who can serve on juries.

And they have an automatic right to live in this country.

The general practice is they can't be denied re-entry if they leave, which is sort of a constitutional barrier in and of itself to the idea that they would be exiled to a distant land.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like Russia.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So they're kind of trying to go at this angle.

This is not going to go anywhere, but I thought it was interesting and somewhat entertaining.

Yes.

Oh, there's the Zephyr.

It's not really the Zephyr, but I heard something go by.

Some, it's one of the many trains coming in from China.

They're trying to move as much goods into the country.

As quickly as possible.

As quickly as possible, yes.

They're loading up.

Oh, well, let's talk about some tariffs.

I got some tariff news.

Let me see.

Where's my tariffs?

I was kind of right.

It was a huge relief to U.S.

tech firms, but it may be short-lived.

On Friday, the U.S.

Customs Service announced that around 20 electronic products, including phones and computers, would be exempt from reciprocal tariffs.

But by Sunday, the U.S.

President had downplayed the move.

Donald Trump said that those products will be targeted under upcoming sector-specific tariffs, goods seen as critical to U.S.

national defense networks.

I'm telling you that Jamok, our commerce secretary, he said something that clearly was not true.

It was not true that they were exempted.

And so now they're kind of weaseling around.

Oh, no, don't you worry because something's coming back on that.

I think

he jumped the gun on that one.

Nobody is getting off the hook for the unfair trade balances.

There was no tariff exception announced on Friday.

These products are subject to the existing 20% fentanyl tariffs, and they are just moving to a different tariff bucket.

Trump said semiconductors and the entire electronic supply chain are under review in a new national investigation.

He promised to release details on Monday.

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, for his part, said semiconductor tariffs could be in place within a month or two.

Our medicines and our semiconductors need to be built in America.

Donald Trump is on it.

He's calling that out, so you should understand these are included in the semiconductor tariffs that are coming.

Howard, go out there and fix that.

Oh, okay.

Yes, sir.

Yes, boss.

China reacted to the U.S.

move on Friday by describing it as merely a small step toward correcting what it called a wrong practice and urged Washington to cancel the tariffs entirely.

I love

you.

And you play this guy?

Jeez.

these guys are from France 24.

I don't know where they're getting them from.

This is like D-listers.

I'm kidding.

You know what's really bad?

And I tried to pull some clips, but it just didn't work.

So, I guess there was some science award show last night, and Seth Rogan was the co-host with

what's the guy's name, Norman.

Seth Rogan, the comic.

Yes.

And it's like, it's the Oscars of Science.

And it's funded by, you know, Peter Thiel, Mark Zuckerberg, etc.

And it's only online.

Everyone's in tuxedos.

Oh, yeah, so great.

And then Seth Rogan, this is what I was looking for.

I was looking for a clip.

Seth Rogan said, well, isn't it amazing that

all these people funded it?

And then yet you got one guy.

takes $300 million, buys a president,

obviously slamming Elon Musk.

So they cut that out.

It's no longer available.

But then I just went looking for, because I was, surely somebody recorded this and has a clip.

And all I got were AI-generated videos.

There must have been a hundred of them.

And they sound kind of okay, but then they'd all go, Seth Rogen.

Like, okay, well, all right, you're AI.

Seth Rogen.

And it's like, YouTube is just filled with AI news clips.

It's horrible.

It's become useless.

So

I'd rather have this guy than the Seth Roger.

Because I have the NTD guys who sound funny.

But it just seems to me you got a big network like F-24.

You could do something.

Yeah, you could do something.

Pay somebody some money that can actually speak English.

So then we have the latest retaliation from China for what it's worth.

Donald Trump's trade war has hit the aerospace sector worse than previously thought.

China has now now reportedly ordered its airlines to pause orders from U.S.

planemaker Boeing, along with parts made by American companies.

Its top three airlines, Air China, China Eastern, and China Southern, had planned to take delivery of a total 179 Boeing jets over the next two to three years.

Uncertainty over tariffs has left manufacturers and airlines alike asking just who'll pay the cost and scouring contracts to see just how exposed they might be.

Even if Washington's reciprocal tariffs are currently on hold with a baseline 10% in place for three months, except for China, which has a full 145% levy in place, the long build times for aircraft means those figures could easily change between now and ultimate delivery.

With an order from Airbus on the cards, U.S.

airline Delta has stated it won't pay the cost of tariffs at all.

And the European planemaker is saying it's still assessing the impact of trade tensions and a possible 20% duty on its exports.

Some airlines, like Ryanair, have indicated they could defer deliveries until next year while waiting for clarity.

Either way, with a decades-old agreement that maintained aerospace trade is duty-free now in tatters, the world's airlines and planemakers could now be on course for a serious standoff.

Yeah,

the Dutch newspapers were just filled with this story that, oh, travel to the U.S.

has dumped down through the basement.

No one's buying, oh, the airlines are in trouble.

No one's buying tickets to go to America.

I don't even know if that's true.

Well, you'll find out on the way back.

If the plane's dead empty, you'll know.

Well, it was full going over.

It's full going over.

And so the European Central Bank lowered their interest rate again.

This is their third cut, I believe, in a row.

Now 2.25%,

which seems quite low compared to the United States, and President Trump is not happy about that.

The closing bell on Wall Street today ringing in new losses.

The Dow ending the day down almost 2%.

The plunge attributed to the Federal Reserve Chairman's new warnings today about President Trump's sweeping tariff policy.

Tariffs are highly likely to generate at least a temporary rise in inflation.

Even before Powell spoke, tech stocks started dipping after the Trump administration put up new roadblocks for giant chipmaker NVIDIA to export to China.

The company is saying it will lose $5.5 billion.

Some imports coming into the U.S.

from China, like electric vehicles and syringes, are now facing a hefty 245 percent tariff.

The White House says there were tariff talks today between President Trump and Russia.

This is another thing that they've done.

So they're adding up the tariffs from 2017,

making it sound like we've just made it go to 245.

But this includes tariffs from

also is a question in my mind.

What electric cars from China are coming into the U.S.?

Yeah, all of those, none?

I haven't seen one Chinese.

We don't have one Chinese car in the U.S.

that I know of.

No.

No.

No.

So why did she say that?

She said she specifically said cars.

She doesn't like Trump.

The White House says there were tariff talks today between President Trump and representatives from Japan, America's fourth biggest trading partner.

But a new lawsuit over the Trump tariffs from the fifth biggest economy in the world, California.

We're also the largest manufacturing state in the United States of America, $412 billion output.

And I want to put that in perspective.

Newsome charging that Trump does not have the authority to unilaterally place tariffs using the International Economic Emergency Powers Act, requesting a judge void the tariffs and block them.

Where the hell is Congress?

Where Where the hell is Speaker Johnson?

Do your job.

And so I, yeah, I'm angry as a parent.

As a parent.

As a taxpayer.

Usum says the tariffs are impacting California's trade with U.S.

trading partners around the world.

California is also the nation's biggest importer.

Poor California.

We're the biggest, we're number one, biggest.

We're the biggest importer.

And by the way, President Trump, he's fixed it.

He solved inflation, and everything's good.

U.S.

President Donald Trump claims he's fixed inflation

despite the recent market turmoil triggered by his enactment of global tariffs.

We have to solve problems, and we already solved inflation.

If you look at the numbers, the numbers are incredible.

Actually,

stock markets are up, and we're not letting other countries take advantage of this country like they have for the last 40 years.

His remarks follow the release of the latest monthly consumer price report, which shows a 2.4% inflation rate for March.

It also comes after the US President offered an exemption to Apple and other technology companies, prompting global stock rises after another tumultuous week.

Trump has since announced he might temporarily exempt the auto industry from tariffs to give car makers time to adjust their supply chains.

However, many economists remain reluctant to view a single consumer report as evidence of a broader trend and continue to fear that Trump's tariffs will raise prices and harm the economy.

Yeah.

How was Andrew?

I didn't hear the show.

DH Unplugged comes out every

Tuesday night.

How is Andrew doing?

He's hanging in there.

It wasn't as bad as I thought it might be.

Oh, okay.

He probably made money.

He probably got in on that big buy.

The big buying opportunity.

I don't know.

Okay, good.

I'm glad.

I don't, I hate it.

He has not contacted me, which means he's really angry.

No, I don't think he knows.

I don't think he, I think you're right.

He doesn't listen anymore.

He doesn't listen anymore.

Oh, he's too busy watching MSNBC,

shaking his fist.

I don't know how much more you're going to have to insult him before you get to the point.

I'm trying.

I'm trying real hard.

I want the call.

Andrew, give Adam a call.

He's He's lonely.

How about this?

This had kind of an extra little

double feature in here,

which was, it was mentioned, but I didn't hear anyone make the connection.

This is the

purge over at the Defense Department.

This is the Reuters report on it.

An advisor to U.S.

Defense Secretary Pete Hagseth has been escorted from the Pentagon.

after being identified during an investigation into leaks at the Department of Defense.

Dan Caldwell has been placed on administrative leave for, quote, an unauthorized disclosure.

That's according to a U.S.

official who says the investigation remains ongoing.

Phil Stewart covers the Pentagon for us.

He has been the first

person implicated in an investigation that was launched on March 21st.

And this investigation authorized the use of polygraphs against senior Defense Department officials, which obviously signaled that Hegseth and the Trump administration were quite concerned about something going on at the Pentagon related to leaks of classified information.

And now we have Dan Caldwell, who has been escorted out, but we're hearing that he may not be the last person to be implicated in this investigation.

Okay, so Dan Caldwell.

All right, we have a name, and let's learn about Dan Caldwell.

Now, who is Dan Caldwell?

So Dan Caldwell had been one of the most influential people in the Pentagon that nobody had ever heard of.

He was first named, kind of came out into the public view when The Atlantic published the transcript from a signal chat that involved planning for the U.S.

launch of strikes against the Houthis in Yemen.

And when the U.S.

Defense Secretary, Pete Hegseth, had to name his point person for this coordination on this major U.S.

offensive.

He named Dan Caldwell.

Now, Dan Caldwell and Pete Hegseth go way back.

They've known each other for a long time.

He had tremendous influence.

And it shows that this leak investigation is no joke and that Hegseth is willing to let key allies go if it means purging the Pentagon from leakers.

What are the chances that this guy was on the dreaded signal call?

He's being kicked out for unauthorized disclosure.

Now I'm thinking he might have been the one that added the journalist.

Well, there's something interesting about this guy.

His wiki page, for example, has got spook written all over it, but not in the spot the spook.

There's two forms that we look at.

One is spot the spook, which is you can see their background, what schools they went to, and then they had assignments all over the world for some unknown reason.

Speaking multiple Eastern languages.

Yeah, exactly.

Russian and Arabic.

I mean, come on.

So

then there's the other one, which is that nothing.

Empty.

Just completely empty.

Empty.

It's like there's no, what school did he go to?

Have no idea.

When was he born?

I don't know.

Yeah.

Does he have his parents?

Does his parents have the same name as him?

Hard to say because there's nothing, no mention.

So we have this type of guy.

Yeah.

And so I suspect he might be

planted.

For a long time.

He was long time.

But that's coffee, though.

You put a guy in there and you just, you know, he does the reports back.

Well, if you listen to that entire Kurt, what's his name, interview interview with Tucker?

Man,

he says there are so many people,

particularly in defense, who are so corrupt and making so much money off of war and things that we start, crap that we stir up.

And I would love that guy to be testifying somewhere after the Epstein files come out, of course.

Yeah, that'll be the day.

I can wait.

I have patience.

What about Diddy at least?

Come on.

No, Diddy just pleaded not guilty to something else.

They throw Diddy in from time to time, but that lawyer's kind of falling apart.

The Busby guy,

he's got all kinds of problems going on.

Surprise.

Oh, we haven't.

I mean,

what's surprising is Diddy's still alive.

That's what's surprising.

There must be a reason.

Well, they're not going to make it.

Okay, well, we'll sell him that last.

There must be a reason.

Keep it up.

So Bozberg, the judge.

Yeah, this is an interesting judge.

I get some analysis analysis on this.

This is Boesberg contempt NPR is the opener.

Now, this is the guy who

the judge who told,

turn the plane around.

The Trump administration, quote, demonstrated willful disregard for a court's order and is likely in criminal contempt.

That is what U.S.

District Judge James Boesberg ruled today here in Washington.

Bozberg has been trying to determine if the government purposely ignored him last month when he told it to to turn back two airplanes, planes carrying Venezuelan migrants to a prison in El Salvador.

And Piers Adrian Florido is here.

Hi, Adrian.

Hi.

Hi, Mary Louise.

What else did Judge Boseberg say in his ruling?

Well, he said that he found that, in fact, government officials did ignore his order to turn those planes around.

A little context, Mary Louise.

On March 15th, President Trump announced that he'd invoked the Wartime Alien Enemies Act of 1798 so he could quickly deport members of the Venezuelan gang Trenderagua without hearings.

Later that day, officials in Texas loaded dozens of men into two airplanes.

The ACLU got wind of the government's plans and sued.

During an emergency hearing

in D.C.

that evening, Judge Boseberg asked government lawyers if the planes had already taken off and said if they had, they needed to turn around.

The planes did not turn back, though.

They landed in El Talvador and that country's president locked the men up.

Boseberg, in his ruling today, said the government could have returned those planes because they took off during his hearing and they landed after he'd issued his order.

He wrote that, and I'm quoting here, the Constitution does not tolerate willful disobedience of judicial orders.

And he said that he had probable cause to find the administration in criminal contempt.

Criminal contempt.

So what does that mean when that's applied to the federal government?

Oh, ask Eric Holder what that means.

It means nothing.

It means completely nothing.

Well, it depends on what the government says next.

Bozberg gave it until next Wednesday to do one of two things.

It can show him how it's working to correct its violation.

And he said that the most obvious way would be to reassert custody of the men it deported so they can challenge their deportations in federal courts.

Now, Rob, the constitutional lawyer, did a deep dive for me.

And he said,

deep dive, yes.

And he says, this is only about habeas corpus,

habeas corpus.

And yes, but you can't sue in a different state, and they should have sued in Texas.

And so this whole thing was it's technicality, really.

It's not like this judge can really turn stuff around.

The whole thing is, pardon the pun, trumped up.

Yeah.

They're trying to get something going here.

They are still being held in that Salvadoran prison, and many of their families have flatly denied that they are gang members.

If the government chooses not to do that, Bozberg said, then...

Do they have a soundbite?

Do they have a crying wife?

Do they have crying children?

Do they have anyone like a mom?

Anything?

They tried.

The family?

They just, oh, no, the family's saying, oh, no, oh, no.

If the government chooses not to do that, Bozberg said, then he said it needs to tell him the names of the specific government officials who ignored his order.

He said he will hold contempt hearings and, if necessary, appoint a lawyer to criminally prosecute them for contempt, and they could face fines or prison.

So, how are both sides responding to this ruling?

Start with the lawyers who brought this case.

Well, they're from the ACLU and from a group called Democracy Forward.

This is Democracy Forward's attorney in this case, Sky Perriman.

This ruling, it's clear that we've seen the government has acted in blatant disregard for the judiciary, treating court orders as if they are optional.

And that's not how our systems of checks and balances works.

This really is something that should concern every single person in the country.

She said that her team will continue working through the courts to ensure that everyone in the U.S.

gets due process.

On the other side, a White House spokesman said the government will appeal today's ruling.

He said the president is committed to ensuring that, quote, criminal, illegal migrants are no longer a threat to Americans.

The Department of Justice also issued a statement calling Boseberg's ruling a judicial power grab.

You know, not in the news, and I only have read a report about this, this Boesberg is under investigation himself for taking

drafts of

amicus briefs from organizations like ACLU and then redlining them, sending them back, saying, no, no, no, you change this, change this, then send it back to me.

And then using those to dismiss cases or, you know, to do something like this, which is hold people in contempt.

He's under investigation

because Holman has some goods on him.

He has some whistleblower, but I can't find any news, any clips about this.

Of course not.

What am I thinking?

Adrian.

Shocker.

This is, of course, not the only case in which federal courts are trying to force the Trump administration to obey court orders.

Zoom out, give us the bigger picture.

Well, members of the Trump administration have said they're not going to let courts get in their way of carrying out the president's priorities.

What is he, a Bitcoiner?

Zoom out.

Zoom out.

Give us a zoom out.

Bigger picture.

Zoom out.

Tell us what you've learned.

Well, members of the Trump administration have said they're not going to let courts get in their way of carrying out the president's priorities.

And today is the first time a judge has clearly said they will be punished for not obeying courts.

If they still refuse, that is where legal experts say that we will have a full-blown constitutional crisis where the balance of powers between the executive and judicial branches may not hold.

Oh, at least we have another constitutional crisis on our hands.

We have supercuts, so we're good.

We're ready.

Bring it on.

We are ready.

Bring it on.

We need it.

I do actually have

some clips about the wrongly deported man.

Yeah, Yeah,

NPR, how coincidental.

If you don't mind, I shall roll these out.

Judge Paula Zinis ordered the Trump administration to provide more information on whether it has done anything to facilitate the return of a Maryland man deported to El Salvador by mistake.

And Pierre's Jimena Bustillo has been following this, and she's here with me in our studios in Washington.

Good morning, Jimena.

Good morning, Michelle.

The judge originally ordered for two items.

First, for the government to facilitate Abrego Garcia's release and return from Seco

from this Omega prison in El Salvador.

The White House has said that his deportation was an administrative error.

Second, to ensure that if he is brought back to the U.S.

stopped.

So who said this administrative error quote?

Everyone keeps bringing it up.

I look for it.

I specifically want to say that.

What the administration says is an administrative error.

Who said this?

The administration, there is no the administration that has a voice.

There's a person that must have said it, but Levitt can't.

Levitt, carolyn levitt said it levitt said it

she did yeah she did she said it was administrative error and she said oh claire i think she actually said clerical error i i'd have to look it up but what that clerical error is is not entirely clear

so he was apparently deported by mistake but when they looked at him went, you actually deserve to be deported.

You know, what's interesting is if you listen to all these reports on the one side, the side we're playing, and then you listen to like

Jesse Waters, who did a really deep, deep dive

on the whole thing.

And this guy's like, this is a bad person, bad guy.

He beat his wife.

I heard he beat his wife.

He beat his wife twice.

He beat her up twice, and probably more than that, but she's reported it twice.

Yeah.

And then

she's a wife beater.

All wife beaters to El Salvador.

I'm all for that.

Yeah, it's banishment.

Yes.

So the

did you see the clip, a TikTok clip where the guy beats his wife in a bar?

He gives her a couple of slugs.

And

every guy in the bar beats the crap out of the guy?

Well, good.

No, yeah, that's what I said.

I don't.

You're doom scrolling on X because that's all you get.

If you just scroll on X, you would wind up getting

people in cars shooting at cops,

people beating each other,

people getting killed in accidents, in-car camera of a truck driver getting in accident.

Everything is short videos that are just meant to stress you out.

This is

an aside.

So, Jay is putting up the tech grouch on TikTok and on Instagram.

Oh,

reruns?

Reruns?

The reruns for starts, and then we're going to do some originals.

Well, I got to like him.

How's the tech grouch doing?

Is he going viral?

I just showed up yesterday, and so

she gives me her phone, which has TikTok on it.

She says, pick some of these that you like.

And so I start doom scrolling.

Uh-oh.

And, you know, and ferreting.

Holy crap.

And they see, I've only taken the TikToks from X that have been repurposed and they've been filtered.

And when I go on TikTok, you know, I end up, since I'm on a VPN, half the time I'm in Argentina, so everything's in Spanish.

I don't care.

And even though the same basic TikToks, only everything's in the space.

Same idea.

Same idea.

And they're dancing.

They're doing this stupid dancing.

And, but I got on the phone thing because, you know, you mentioned this, the phone is different.

Yes.

Holy mackerel.

I told you.

And within just a few minutes,

I had to just give it back to her.

Within a few minutes, they were starting to.

Every third advertisement, there's like TikTok, TikTok, TikTok advertisements.

Shop.

Shop.

And the advertisements I started getting out of the blue were for teeth implants.

They already know you.

And I said to Jay, I said, Why am I getting all these teeth implants?

She says, Because they know you're older.

Yeah.

They already know.

And I said, This is your connection.

This is your phone.

She says, No.

She said, She tells me this.

She studied it.

I don't know how she got this information.

She says, It's been determined that older, because she watched me do this.

The way you scroll.

The way I scroll, and the fact that I stay on certain

of the presentations, and the ones that include a lot of AI imaging,

according to her, means you're older.

Because you fall for it.

No, I'm not falling for anything.

It's amusing as hell.

Oh, you like it.

Yeah.

It's very likable to watch some of these AI presentations because they got a dancing dog, they got little baby that's dancing, and he's muscle bound, he's dancing.

I mean, there's all kinds of funny stuff.

We got an old coot, roll out the dentures.

And so, within five or six of these things, they figured out I must be an old coot.

And so, they started rolling out the ads for teeth implants.

Now, was she not angry that you ruined her algorithm?

Now she's no, she's according to her, it doesn't,

whoever's doing the scrolling, it takes the it's in real time.

They'll change it.

So, on the plane, so I had to fly to Atlanta first, and I'm sitting next to this guy, and

he has a gigantic iPhone.

I mean,

I mean, I didn't know they were this big.

It's huge.

And, you know, so I'm just sitting there.

I'm in the aisle.

He's in the middle seat.

And

he's going through Instagram.

It is amazing to watch.

So it's like, flick.

It's a thumb thing.

Flick up one.

Okay.

Okay.

Look, look, look.

Oh.

Press down.

heart send to somebody uh go back like it flick next one okay uh gay guy no next gay

yeah and oh i'm gonna send this to three people but

then click flick oh lol flick and and it's fast it's fast the thumbs are moving moving moving he's just doing stuff he's grooving all over the place it was fascinating

and of course he had no idea i was looking at him because he was he was completely

you wouldn't can't pay that much attention to you because he's zoned in on focused and you could just you could i mean

maybe i don't get out enough but this was an excellent opportunity just to watch you know he's probably in his 30s late 30s and i was like wow you are you are in tune with the machine and every

every you can see him this decision-making process like do i watch it

No, and you can even see him watching something.

You see the thumb going closer.

Do I flip this one up?

Oh, wait.

I'm going to wait for a second.

And then he has to make a response.

If he's watched the whole video, it has to be a heart, a like, a comment, a share, a lot of sharing going on.

I was like, this is so bad.

That's terrible.

It is.

Well, I mean, I was on the thing for, I don't know, maybe, I don't know how many minutes, but it was long enough for me to give it back to her and say, you know, I think you got enough material of the favorites that I could do reaction videos to.

And there are some it's in fact there was the one thing I was kind of fascinated with were these women who can't cook videos.

Oh, yeah.

And

it's endless, endless women who can't cook.

The mom and her son, have you seen that one?

No, but I'm sure it's in the mix.

Yeah.

But

it's like hundreds of women who can't cook and they have huge followings, according to Jay, especially the ones who really can't cook.

And of course, we all fall for they have big following.

Who knows?

Who knows?

These numbers are fake.

It could be all fake, but I would follow that.

There's one woman that can't cook that is so bad.

It's like, holy man, how do you even come up with these ideas?

You know, you take the tacos and you put it.

You put the sauce on the side, you take a can of beans, you put potato chips on top, and then you hit it with your foot.

And go and on.

And always cheese, lots of cheese.

A lot of cheese.

A lot of cheese.

A lot of cheese at the end.

We are.

And you put it in the oven oven.

It comes out.

Oh, and she's always, she scrapes it out of there and puts it on her plate.

This is so delicious.

My husband loves it.

And I'm thinking, this poor husband is lucky he doesn't shoot himself.

But yeah.

Tech Grouch, save us.

We need saving, Tech Grouch.

Come on in.

It's the exit strategy of all exit strategies.

You will be a sensation.

Sensation.

Since we're speaking about the phone, you know, I've given up on the hollow book because you haven't done anything, but I had a new idea.

It's not getting people sending stuff in.

No, please, you're not doing anything.

But I figured maybe if we changed it to

noagendasideboard.com, you know, so you have a big drawer, and then we just send out this whole sideboard, and you put the phone in the drawer, and you can really be like John.

Anything to get us out of this gig.

Anything.

Anything.

All right.

Yeah, you're still, you were on a series of clips that I rudely interrupted.

I don't think I even want to go back to them.

It's not even interesting.

Okay, well, I do have an interesting one before the break.

Okay.

This is NPR is under attack by the government.

Finally, they're going to pull the funding.

Yeah, all 5%.

Not even that.

Yeah.

So here is the, I have a series of four clips that they have the attack on NPR clip.

And they brought out Maher, Maher, the woman, the mayor, whatever they call her.

She's the NPR boss now.

She's the NPR boss, and here we go with the attack on NPR.

Well, NPR is in the headlines this week.

That is because the Trump administration has drafted a memo to Congress calling for lawmakers to end nearly all federal funding to public media.

That includes NPR and PBS, and would include money already appropriated by Congress.

That's according to a White House official who spoke to NPR.

So we have invited our president and CEO, CEO, Catherine Maher, to speak with us live.

Welcome.

Thank you for having me.

I want to quickly clarify the relationship here for people listening.

You are my boss.

You hold the top job at NPR,

but you're not a journalist.

You're not involved in newsroom editorial decisions.

That's completely correct.

And you, your office, you have not seen or had input into the questions that I am about to ask you.

That's right.

We've never met before, and you are just a random person from the audience.

Yes.

From the audience, and here we go.

That's correct.

correct.

I want to note, we have asked, the newsroom has asked the White House to comment on what their goal is here with pulling back funding.

They have not responded.

They have

to stop.

The goal is to pull back funding.

Hey, we'd like to take your money away.

Oh, well, what's your goal?

What's the goal?

Take your money away.

Hello?

Comment on what their goal is here with pulling back funding.

They have not responded.

They have posted on the White House website a list of NPR and PBS stories that it says represent biased content and, quote, radical woke propaganda disguised as news.

This includes stories dealing with LGBTQ issues,

coverage of race, coverage of politics.

Understanding, Catherine, that many of the examples on this list date from before your tenure, does NPR stand by its journalism?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Well, why'd you cut that off?

I didn't mean to.

Yeah, you did.

But absolutely is what she said.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

So she doesn't even know what they're talking about.

She's not a journalist, but she stands by their reporting.

She trusts them implicitly.

Yeah, good.

Has NPR been formally notified by the White House about the rescission?

We have not.

How much money is at stake?

In this particular package, it would be all the funds for fiscal year 26 and 27.

For public radio in total, that is about $250 million.

For public media as a whole.

It's a little over

$1 billion,

including public television.

The central question, what would be the effect on NPR of losing government funding?

Pack your bag, lady.

The biggest effect would be on the NPR network, which are the 246 stations around the country that you're probably listening to us on right now.

Those are our member stations, and they receive about $100 million of the $120, $122 million that goes to public radio every single year.

Have these people heard of streaming lately?

I mean, we don't really need the broadcast stations.

Have you heard of that?

It gets thicker than this.

Oh, okay.

So, the big impact would be on rural stations, stations in geographies that are quite large or complex in order to be able to receive broadcasts where infrastructure costs are very high.

You could see some of those stations really having to cut back services or potentially going away altogether.

So, we're throwing away a lot, throwing around a lot of big numbers here.

But basically, just to stick with this point, because I think a lot of people may not understand, NPR, the network you and I work for, gets around 1% of our annual budget directly from the federal government.

You're making the point that a lot of our member stations would be hit considerably harder.

So, is the 1 billion part of the 1%?

Are they getting truly

like $250 million is the 1%,

which is what?

When you make it, if it's 1%,

that's $20 billion

overall.

Am I got my numbers right?

It's 100 to 1.50 million.

Times

100 would be

2.5.

Yeah, 25 billion.

Yeah.

So their total budget is 25, just NPR, not the billion, but if it was a billion, then we're talking about $100 billion.

All public media.

That's probably all.

All public media was a billion, she said, from the government, and it's only 1%.

So wait a minute.

You're telling me that they've got $20 billion

from, including the

$250 from

the government, plus underwriters, advertisers,

individuals,

foundation.

This is much better.

This is a better deal than broadcast media.

Square

on advertising.

Mypillow.com, Code Bongino.

Wow.

It's very

whining.

They've got $20 billion to play with, and they're going to lose a billion.

Oh, no.

I'm sorry.

They got $20 billion to $25 billion to play with.

They're going to lose $250 million.

And they're whining because it's going to hurt the little...

Where's where's that other money going

ladies and gentlemen i present to you 25 billion dollars worth of money suffering sucker dash i'm scott

simon that he literally has a golden voice let me tell you so we receive about one percent of our budget it goes to support things like body armor for journalists covering conflict overseas extra support for our

presidential national elections all the sorts of things that we want to invest in to ensure that we're able to report on issues that matter to the public.

But generally speaking, most of our operating budget comes from our membership fees, and that's what allows our members to be able to receive programming.

It comes from underwriting support, it comes from private donations, individual audience member donations.

And that same thing is true for member stations, except federal funding makes up a much bigger percentage of their total budget.

If all government funding goes away, would we survive?

Oh,

1%.

1%.

I'm doing a lot of money.

They're going to lose 1% of all their funding, and they're going to go, whoa, we're going to survive.

We lost 1%.

I'm telling you, is this make any sense to anybody listening?

No,

they're not being.

I mean, and then it's going towards body armor for journalists.

That's the big expenditure.

Well, we have to cut on the body.

Hey, we're going from 25 billion.

We got to 21 billion 750 million.

Sorry, no body armor for you.

We need the caviar and we need those shrimp deals for lunch.

We can't give you body armor.

Nah, this doesn't make any sense.

I can't believe it's that much.

I can't believe that.

25 billion.

What is the operating budget of CBS

or NBC?

You think that

they're spending $25 billion?

Well, this is, by the way, just this, that $25 billion is NPR.

It's not even the television.

I thought it was all public media.

No, all public media was $1 billion from the government.

This doesn't sound right.

And if that $1 billion is part of

its 1%, that would mean $100 billion goes into the...

These guys are making money, making bank.

Someone's getting cornhold today.

Sounds like a recipe for success to me.

I think the question is: would we be able to thrive as a national network?

That is what I am focused on: we get so much value as public media by being part of a 50-state network that covers 99.7% of the American population.

If federal funding goes away, that network is absolutely at risk.

The quality of service, the ability to cover everyone, people who live in what would otherwise be news deserts, and as a result, there's no question that NPR

would not be able to pull from that richness of our national coverage.

Richness, yes, literally, richness of our national coverage.

Very rich richness of your national coverage.

It's obvious.

That NPR

would not be able to pull from that richness of our national coverage if those localities are not going to be able to do it.

So it's local newsrooms that would be going away, often in places where local newspapers have already been designated

together.

Make the case.

Why should any tax dollars support public broadcasting when there are plenty of other news organizations around?

When anyone, frankly, these days can produce programming on their iPhone.

Okay.

On your iPhone.

Your iPhone.

Yeah, that's

that's what the tax lady said to me when she went through the Airstream.

Yes, I know.

I use that story all the time, by the way.

You just make your podcast on your iPhone, by the way.

NPR uses the Neumann U67,

which costs $7,895.

That's a microphone.

I'm literally using an unmarketed, never-to-be-sold Curry One microphone,

which costs about soon to be available to everyone.

Oh, absolutely.

And I think that it's important for public media to be able to continue to be relevant in a time where there is a lot of coverage of different issues and areas of interest.

And at the same time, I think it's very easy to say that there's universal coverage because there's so much content being produced.

But the reality is, there are many places in this country that do not have that kind of access to either cell phone service or high-speed broadband, where radio may be the only way to reach communities with regular access.

Hey, I'm out here in the sticks.

They can't hear.

Hey, honey, you got a radio?

Because I don't know.

We can't get television or nothing.

We can't get no internet.

You can just do the tech grouch, just audio, and then we can just put AI

scaramunga can put the tech grouch over it.

You don't have to address it.

You could pretty much do that by now.

Yeah,

you should consider that.

Did you see the latest Scaramunga video?

No, I did not.

I'll tell you in a minute.

Or high-speed broadband, where radio may be the only way to reach communities with regular access to news.

Public media also supports local news coverage in places we've already mentioned.

No, she mentioned zero places.

She said some places where you you people live who have that voice that you have who have no yeah who have

you can't get any reception

uh move the rabbit ears honey yeah

it public media also supports local news coverage in places we've already mentioned that about uh 20 of americans live in an area without any other local news coverage other than their local public radio station oh yeah like austin where we had we were snowed in for five days without electricity.

I turned on my local NPR station, KUT, and I got...

This is fresh air with Terry Gross.

Bull crap, lady.

You're right.

This is why hyperlocal podcasting is the way to go.

There is no local programming.

This is tremendously important as a public service.

And just because not every single person uses it every day, you know, I don't drive on our interstates every day.

And yet when I need it, it's there.

No, you are in the back of the limo.

You don't drive.

in the back of the limo.

It's no false equivalency anyway.

And by the way, the same places that don't have any internet don't have the interstate either.

This is like bullcrap.

And these people are still begging for money.

They have a budget of anywhere between $25 and $100 billion

from their own numbers that they just, you heard her.

She said it's 1%.

It's unbelievable.

And they get money from the government for no good reason.

They get money from foundations.

They get money from individuals, you know, viewers like you.

And they get money from advertising, whatever you want to call it.

So they got money coming into underwriting is another way.

They've got money coming in.

Every which way that broadcasts people, that people that actually have to work for a living, don't get all these inputs.

It's ridiculous.

And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.

Perfect Perfect segue.

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And we thank our producers for how I mean, we'd love to thank our underwriters, our advertisers, and the government for $25 billion.

I'll tell you something.

I'm doing a show every day.

I do three hours every day.

Every day.

John Tom did the show.

You'd be like, oh, I don't want to do the show.

$25 billion.

Oh, let's do a show.

We would be deconstructing the media like crazy.

$25 billion.

Every say, I'll do, I'll come.

I will bring a DVD or USB stick to your house.

Every day, I'll deliver it to you.

Well, you have no reception, you poor person, without interstate or without internet or any reception.

Just got cows

looking at the fields.

Little house on the prairie.

So we thank our producers for the value for value model, which we've been employing in our 18th year now, which means we give you the show, no charge.

You don't have to tune into the radio.

You just get it

on your computer, on your smartphone, however you want to get it.

It's available everywhere.

From time to time, people put it on YouTube foolishly because it always gets taken down.

And oh, hey man, I can't post the show on YouTube anymore.

I already got two strikes from your show.

Hello.

Two strikes.

Hello.

I love what people say.

Hey, I got a great idea.

I think you should simulcast on X.

And I'm like, why would we do that?

Because you have, oh, we're going to build our audience on X.

And then what if Elon sells X or Elon...

decides he wants to go a different direction.

Oh, we're not going to have those guys take him down.

Or our audience could get taken down.

No, we're not going to do that.

No,

no.

We're taking the, it's not an easy route.

It's the narrow gate, but we're going that way.

This is just what we've decided.

And all we ask for in return is that you just give us some value back, time, talent, treasure.

So we always thank people who support us financially, $50 or above, but we also like to thank people who do things for us.

And we are always grateful to our dudes named Ben and dudettes named Bernadette, who are keeping servers running for us.

And

so many people do so many different things.

And then we have NoagendaArtGenerator.com, where artists can upload art on the fly during the live show or sometime during the live show, because we just choose a good piece that has it all for us.

We're art directors in that case, and we're just looking for something that's funny and hopefully something, some fun that we provided.

And then we use that as our album art.

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Yo.

Yo, yo, yo, yo.

What do we have?

Let's see, there was some other stuff going on.

Oh, yes.

I got some trans Maoism stuff, which could probably fold into some TikTok clips you've got.

I'm just guessing.

Well, I've got some TikTok clips.

I got two.

Well, you want to do those first, really?

Yeah, let's get it, because they're fun and people love them.

Okay.

Let's start with the historians.

A line has been crossed.

For the 10 years that Trump has terrorized the American political scene, we have been asking the question of when do we need to go?

What's the danger signs?

What are the lines that need to be crossed for you to realize it's time to pull the shoe?

It just happened.

Three prominent Yale historians have now fled for Canada.

Jason Stanley, Timothy Snyder, whose book I've recommended on my page, and Timothy's wife, Marcy Shore, have all decided to leave.

Why?

Because those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it.

And they looked around at what's going on in our country and said,

we're not safe, time to go.

If I'm going to be able to continue my work and educate people on what's going on,

I need to go.

I can't do that here safely anymore because the Trump administration is rapidly descending into fascism and dictatorship, and they're not safe anymore.

to educate the public about the things that they know about history to try and prevent these types of things.

When Hitler took over in 1933, it wasn't just that and mass extermination.

There was a lead up many years.

Obviously, their largest perceived enemy was the Jewish people, but they targeted lots of other groups as well.

It was political opponents, civil servants who voted in a way that they didn't agree with.

Sound familiar?

We're offering bias

so that they can replace everybody with yes people in our current government.

Trans people,

gay people, disabled people who they didn't want to take care of.

They've been attacking gay and trans people in this country.

They've been going after services for disabled people.

What?

These historians see the writing on the wall.

So if you were looking for your oh shit sign, it's here.

Okay, well, a couple of things.

Let's go, first of all, the three historians.

There's a couple that are historians.

The other person person is

teaches philosophy.

He's not a historian, so she's got that wrong.

The other thing is the woman that's mentioned, she's already living in Canada.

She's been there because she took a job up there before Trump was elected.

And the other guy was offered a job for two years to go up there.

So he's going to go up there because it's lucrative and his wife's there.

The whole thing, this is like just creating something out of nothing is just astonishing to me.

Well, allow me to interject your TikTok clips with a history lesson of my own.

This is a supercut.

It's only a minute.

Don't worry.

From 1993 to 2025.

So this is a good history, not of fascism in America, but of oligarchs taking over.

Bernie Sanders from 1993 to 2025.

This great country of ours is moving very rapidly in the direction of oligarchy.

The United States of America today is increasingly becoming an oligarchy.

More and more moving toward an oligarchy.

We are moving in the direction of oligarchy.

We will move even more rapidly in the direction of an oligarchy.

This great country is evolving into an oligarchic society.

It is called oligarchy, and that is the system we are rapidly moving toward.

This is a budget that moves our country rapidly into the direction of oligarchy.

A handful of billionaires are moving this entire planet toward an oligarchic society.

We start off with the bad news, which is pretty bad, and that is that under Donald Trump, this country is hurtling rapidly toward oligarchy.

Keep it up, Bernie.

One day it'll happen.

I'm confident.

Yeah,

that's 30 years of clips.

Yes, 30 years of Bernie Sanders saying we're rapidly moving towards an oligarchy.

But now, under Trump, it's finally really happening.

Oligarch.

Yeah, nobody even cares.

No.

All right.

So the other TikTok clips, here's a classic liberal lady.

Not sure why no one understands how I feel.

You guys know that my husband turned Republican this term.

I don't know why.

I threw his ass out of the house.

And

I have to do more.

I don't want to shave my head because that's going to hurt him.

I'm going to look ugly.

So I'm not not doing that.

I think I'm going to sleep with his friends.

I think that's the only way.

I think sleeping with his friends will do.

What do you guys think?

His liberal friends, of course.

Oh, please.

This is

TikTok clickbait.

You're not sleeping with anybody.

This is dumb.

She's not sleeping with anybody.

Do better.

Do better, John.

I wish she was asleep.

Do better.

Hey, big news from the UK.

This hit the wires.

Everybody, it was all

a tizzy here because the UK High Court has come up with some legal definitions and it's a problem.

It's a long-awaited decision that defines how equality laws are applied and who they apply to.

The Supreme Court has ruled that the 2010 Equality Act defines a woman as someone born biologically female.

It means the law won't apply to transgender women with a gender recognition certificate in the same way it applies to cisgender women.

The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms woman and sex in the Equality Act twenty ten refer to a biological woman and biological sex.

Fascist!

But we counsel against reading this judgment as a triumph of one or more groups in our society at the expense of another.

It is not.

The judge stressed that the law still gives transgender people protection against discrimination in a separate part of the Equality Act.

What it won't do, though, is define trans women as women in representation on public sector boards, for example, which is what prompted the long-running legal dispute in the first place.

This is really interesting.

I wonder if this was happening in the U.S.

As part of ESG, when it was still in play, the

economic social governance,

you had to have equal representation of women in boardrooms.

Now I'm wondering how many U.S.

boardrooms had trans women on it.

Because that's what sparked this whole debate in the UK.

Do you know by any chance?

No, I have no idea.

In fact,

I wasn't even thinking about it.

Well,

but the UK was doing it.

Lobby Group for Women Scotland complained that ministers had included trans people as part of the quotas in that law and brought the challenge against the Scottish Government in 2018.

They see the ruling as a huge victory.

Today, the judges have said what we always believed to be the case: that women are protected by their biological sex, that sex is real, and that women can now feel safe, that services and spaces designated for women are for women.

The case may have started in Scotland, but the decision adds to a particularly polarising debate over transgender rights across the UK and could be used by campaigners to press the governments over its wider policies.

A small light, bright light in the UK, all of a sudden.

Quite surprising.

It's very surprising.

You'd think they'd go the other way.

Then the most ironic clip of the day,

which completely fits the Watsisech Benisel, Mitche Corpde de Health,

Letitia James.

The Angle has obtained shocking allegations leveled by the Trump administration against New York Attorney General Letitia James.

The Federal Housing Finance Agency has sent a criminal referral to the DOJ accusing James James of mortgage fraud.

In a letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi, Director Bill Pulte says, James appears to have falsified records in order to meet certain lending requirements and receive favorable loan terms.

He cited a property in Virginia that she's allegedly claimed as her principal residence and a property in New York that she claimed as a four-unit structure instead of the required, instead of a five, which Pulte says means she was able to get a different type and more favorable loan.

Joining me now is Jonathan Turley, Fox News contributor and law professor at GW University.

Your reaction to these allegations.

Well, obviously, the irony is perfectly crushing.

This is

a person who prosecuted Trump for everything short of ripping a label off a mattress.

And among the charges that were brought in New York in not just the civil but the criminal case was making false or misleading statements to financial institutions.

If we apply the Letitia James standard that she

created, there'd be little question here.

This seems pretty straightforward.

What the administration is saying is this was not her principal residence.

In fact, as a New York elected official, she had to say that her principal residence was in New York.

This was an out-of-state residence.

But also, they claim that in some of these forms, she actually states that her father is her husband in order to file as a married couple once again the mo prophecy comes true the black women get taken down you couldn't take down trump we're taking you down

there it is

the irony is delicious yeah and also the woman fanny is in trouble down in georgia wasn't she already in trouble well that's what i meant she's in trouble yeah oh yeah

So they get problems left and right.

And then

promises made, promises kept.

We knew this was going to happen, so it was no surprise, but it was kind of fun.

Many remember the moment, a direct confrontation at a White House governor's meeting in February between President Donald Trump and Maine's Democratic governor, Janet Mills, about her state not complying with his executive order banning transgender men in women's sports.

Governor Mills is off-mic, but her defiance of the president is clear.

Are you not going to comply with it?

I'm complying with state and federal laws.

Well, we are the federal law.

Well, you better do it.

You better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at all if you don't.

And by the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although I did very well there, your population doesn't want men playing in women's sports.

So

you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding.

See you in court.

Every state...

Good, I'll see you in court.

I look forward to that.

Fast forward to this week when U.S.

Attorney General Pam Bondi announced a federal lawsuit against the state of Maine over opting not to comply with the Trump executive order and violations of Title IX sections that address eligibility of transgender students in athletic competition.

Yeah, there you go.

So, Pam Bondi, man, she is like fashion Barbie.

I see her sitting in the Oval Office.

You know, there's who was there, Bukele

from El Salvador.

And she's got her, I mean, everyone's in business attire, and she's Fashion Barbie.

It's amazing.

She is, dude.

She got the hip pants on and everything.

So taking care of business here against Maine.

Attorney General Bondi outlined the goals of the federal lawsuit.

We are seeking an injunction to get them to stop this, stop what they're doing.

That's pretty simple.

And we are seeking to have the titles returned to the young women who rightfully won these sports.

Education Secretary Linda McMahon's words during the announcement served as more of a warning than anything else that May may just be the start of legal battles over transgender men in women's sports, and even referred back to that February confrontation.

We want to make sure that if you open women's sports or intimate facilities to males, you expose yourself to federal rights, federal civil rights investigations.

Governor Mills will definitely definitely get her wish.

Boom.

There you go.

Yeah, Mills is just a horror.

And how did she ever get elected?

She is the ugliest politician.

Now, now, now, you know, politics is very ugly people.

Yes,

it has a lot to do with it.

Her ugliness comes out.

Well, yeah, it is.

She's ugly in the inside.

Yes, internal.

Yeah, I agree.

Update on Iran.

We know it's just weeks away.

Iran is not far from possessing a nuclear bomb.

Not far.

Grossi is saying it's like a puzzle.

They have the pieces, and one day they could eventually put them together.

Oh, it's like Minecraft.

The UN watchdog tasked with overseeing Iran's nuclear program and its compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal, which they were collapsed, of course, three years later when the United States withdrew from it during President Donald Trump's first term.

Western countries, including the U.S., have long accused Iran of seeking to acquire nuclear weapons, an allegation Tehran has consistently denied, insisting its program is for peaceful civilian purposes.

We're going to cross live then to our correspondent, Sayyida Zimi, who joins us now from Tehran.

Say, Grocer, then warning once again, really, of just how close Iran could be to developing a nuclear bomb.

Well, yes, Stuart, that was the message that we received from Rafael Grossi, loud and clear.

Last night, when he arrived in Tehran, he met the Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Arakchi in a meeting that he described as timely and important.

Rafael Grossi is in Tehran for two days.

So due to the busy schedule that the Iranian Foreign Minister had, because the Iranian Foreign Minister is right now

en route to Moscow to meet Russia's Vladimir Putin, so the IAEA Director General Rafal Gossi met the Iranian foreign minister last night upon his arrival in Tehran to make sure that the sense of diplomacy in Tehran is urgent and credible assurances, according to Rafael Gossi in his post on X,

is given to him to ensure the peaceful nature of the Iranian nuclear program.

So a very interesting development, and President Trump announced this while

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was sitting in the Oval Office with him.

He's like, nah, you know, we're going to talk to Iran, and I guess we're talking to Russia, and Iran and Russia are talking together, and maybe we'll have Russia oversee stuff.

And we'll see what we're all coordinating their messages, and Netanyahu's out of the picture.

He's out.

Tell us more.

Oh, whoa, according to our half of our listeners, you know, he's running everything.

He's running the show.

He's running the show.

Tell us more.

He's about to show it out.

I keep trying to get to this clip.

Tell us more about the situation regarding Iran and its nuclear program.

Good evening, Mark.

Yes, there's been quite a bit of news.

The first thing we heard today, which was itself quite shocking, from the Guardian newspaper, is that the United States offered Iran a sort of exchange deal,

some sort of peace agreement or the lifting of sanctions if Iran agreed to dispatch its uranium, its nuclear material, out of Iran to a third country.

The nation being mentioned was Russia.

But we heard this in the context of Iran not being interested even in that sort of an offer.

Obviously, the news of this sort of an American alliance with Russia

coming upon the U.S.,

you know, acquiescence of Russian efforts in Europe, in Ukraine, also caused reverberations here in the Middle East.

And subsequently,

news came of Donald Trump's envoy, Steve Witkoff, saying that, in fact, the United States is not interested in dismantling Iran's nuclear program.

The exact thing that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Tanya had demanded in his White House meeting with Donald Trump just a few days ago, Steve Witkoff said, no, we just don't want them to have a bomb.

He said, the President says we don't want them to have a bomb, so we don't want them to have a bomb.

And the Iranians, despite evidence to the contrary, have always claimed, as you said, that they have just a civilian program.

This is a very interesting development, considering that, you know, the last administration that tried to do a deal with Iran was kind of along the same lines.

Just don't make a bomb.

We know you're only two weeks away.

Don't make a bomb.

And they keep showing.

Actually, two weeks away.

Yes.

And they keep showing the aluminum tubes over and over again.

Yeah, they have the same B-roll.

Yeah, but it's a psychological effect, I'm sure.

Well, that brings us to Gaza, which is part of this deal somehow.

I have the Gaza-Israel update.

Hamas is rejecting new Israeli ceasefire in Gaza.

The proposal calls for disarming the militant group as a condition for ending the war.

NPR's Daniel Estron has more from Tel Aviv.

The new Israeli proposal is to pause the war in Gaza for a month and a half, free about half of Hamas's living Israeli hostages within the first week, and negotiate the disarmament of militant groups.

A Hamas official tells NPR the group rejects the proposal.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because Hamas was still preparing a formal response to mediators.

But in a statement, Hamas and other Palestinian groups said their weapons were for self-defense.

They said the ceasefire proposal did not include guarantees to end the war and withdraw Israeli troops from Gaza.

Israel's defense minister says Israel is changing tactics and won't withdraw troops from areas they capture in Gaza.

Well, that brings us to the Governor Shapiro story,

which

we

looked at that on the last show and said, hmm,

that has FBI written all over it.

Now I'm not so sure.

Tonight,

this is the suspect.

Police are calling a domestic terrorist.

They say Cody Balmer scaled a fence and firebombed Governor Josh Shapiro's residence while the governor and his family were sleeping upstairs.

These images show the damage from two Molotov cocktails made from beer bottles and gasoline that prosecutors say Balmer took from his lawnmower.

The piano room and part of the dining room destroyed.

Chairs and tables charred.

Other objects melted.

In the same spot hours earlier, the Shapiros celebrating the first night of Passover.

Lori and I are overwhelmed

by the prayers

and the messages of support.

that we've received from all across Pennsylvania and all across the United States.

A senior law enforcement official tells ABC News authorities are investigating whether this attack could have been motivated by the governor's Jewish faith.

Shapiro and his family were gathered Saturday evening with two dozen others.

He shared this photo of his seder plate.

Hours later, state troopers banging on the door to get everyone out.

Chief, had the door not been closed, could the fire have spread further and deeper inside the mansion, putting the governor and his family at risk?

If that door wasn't closed, the fire would have spread and would have definitely put the the governor at even greater risk.

What'd you say?

How?

How?

What's the door got to do with anything?

The windows were broken.

I don't know.

That's just for the story.

What do you offer?

And by the way, it wasn't, no, we didn't think the FBI had anything to do with that.

We thought the FBI, and I still think so, had something to do with that maniac kid who killed his two parents and was caught in Kansas.

He was going to go

drone Trump.

I'm sorry.

You're right.

And the FBI has backed off of that story because I don't, I think they were behind like the, he was messaging Ukraine.

He was going to get a job there.

You're right.

Yeah, you're right.

And I think the FBI backed off of it completely and not taking it.

No, don't talk about it because I don't think it was intended that he was going to kill his parents.

No.

And then what happened is they're like, oh, what are we going to do?

Ah.

Let's have this guy firebomb Shapiro.

This is the part of the fence the suspect

inside the governor's residence where he set the fire with an incendiary device.

Investigators cut away this part of the fence so they could do DNA testing.

Today, the governor surveyed the damage.

Police say Balmer fled the scene and later turned himself in.

Authorities say the 38-year-old mechanic had a plan, walking for approximately one hour from his residence to the governor's residence, allegedly while harboring hatred towards Governor Shapiro.

Asked by police what he would have done if the governor found him inside, Balmer allegedly replied, would have beaten him with his hammer.

In the Oval Office, President Trump on the incident today.

Not Not me.

The attacker was not a fan of Trump, I understand, just from what I read and from what I've been told.

The attacker basically wasn't a fan of anybody.

It's probably just a whack job.

And certainly a thing like that cannot be allowed to happen.

No, we know what it was really about.

Tonight, state police say the man accused of firebombing the Pennsylvania governor's mansion on the first night of Passover called them, confessed, and said he did it because of Governor Josh Shapiro's support for Israel in its war against Hamas.

a newly released search warrant application said cody bomber called 911 less than an hour after the arson attack identifying himself by name and telling the operator governor josh shapiro needs to know that he will not take part in his plans for what he wants to do to the palestinian people

The document said Balmer went on to say he needs to stop having my friends killed.

Our people have been put through too much by that monster.

And you know where to find me.

I'm not hiding, and I will confess to everything that I've done.

Yeah, sadly, not the last of these attacks we're going to see.

It's ramping up.

Sadly, we don't have a tape of this bull crap.

I'm sure I didn't say any of it.

How do you know?

Well, you're questioning the authorities?

Jeez.

I bet he did say that.

I don't know.

Maybe if he did or he didn't, it doesn't matter because he obviously did it.

Or obviously, I don't know that either, to be honest about it.

But the fact is, the guy's a, I think Trump had it.

He's a whack job.

Yeah.

Whacked job.

I got some screw.

Since we're international, I got some unusual clips about Ecuador.

Five-minute warning.

Well, this will be it, Dan.

I got two clips from Ecuador.

Here we go.

Ecuador is famous for its beaches and its capital city, Quito, high in the foothills of the Andes.

But in the past few years, Ecuador has been dragged into a brutal international drug war, resulting in one of the highest homicide rates in Latin America.

That has helped make tomorrow's elections one of the country's most important in years.

If If you are as Carrie Kahn joins us from Ecuador.

Hey, Carrie.

Hi.

Hi.

Hi.

So let's start with this.

Where are you and what is the mood like there?

I'm in Guayaquil.

It's the biggest city in Ecuador.

It's also its economic center here.

Unfortunately, this port city and surrounding towns have become the most dangerous and deadly.

As for the mood, I'd say people are just guarded and anxious for this election to come to an end.

They're exhausted from the violence that's engulfed the country in recent years.

And actually, in recent months, January and February of this year have been the most violent ever recorded with a homicide every hour being reported.

Wow.

Can you just contextualize that for us a little more?

Why has this violence erupted so quickly?

First, it's been several years of gang violence here, with the last few increasingly brutal as gangs splinter and fight for territory.

Ecuador, in the geography, is sandwiched between Colombia and Peru.

Those are the biggest cocaine producers in the world.

And Ecuador brings a lot of other advantages besides geography.

It's a dollar economy.

Money laundering is easier here.

Its visa laws had always been lax, and that allowed a lot of foreigners to easily come in, and corruption is widespread.

It has extensive ports and a long Pacific coastline, lending great access to routes to the U.S.

and also to Europe, which has seen a surge in cocaine use.

Currently, there are Mexican, Colombian, and even Albanian cartels operating here.

And of course, together with the Ecuador's local gangs, which have proliferated as the economy has stalled out here, too.

You know what those people need, John?

They need stable coin.

That's what they need.

They need stablecoin coins.

So, what is it?

Europeans using Coke now?

Oh,

oh, yeah.

Oh, Coke is big in Holland, too.

Everybody.

How did that happen?

It's been that way for a while.

I mean,

the port of Rotterdam is probably one of the biggest entry points for Coke

to get all throughout Europe.

You know, the good old macro mafia is running it, a lot of it here.

Yeah.

Oh, no.

And it's cheap.

Everybody's like, oh, I got some Coke.

Yeah, I want some Coke.

Coke.

Funny enough, didn't get any offered at the party.

No, you're a trumper.

Turn him in.

You're a narc.

So that is the context for this election, which is a runoff.

The winner will be president for the next four years.

Tell us about the two candidates.

Right.

The race is a repeat of the 2023 snap elections, and the current president who won those, has been in power for only 16 months.

He's 37-year-old Daniel Noboa.

He's the son of the richest man here in Ecuador.

The family business is bananas, one of Ecuador's largest exports.

Naboa is a close ally of President Trump, and he's pro-business, he's pro-free trade.

His opponent, again, is a leftist, former lawmaker, and lawyer, Luisa Gonzalez.

She's 47.

is a very close ally of the former firebrand leftist president Rafael Correa, who ruled Ecuador for 10 years.

He's in self-imposed exile after being convicted of corruption, but he still has a lot of sway and a loyal base here.

Is it fair to say that the crime and violence are the big issue for voters, given all of this?

Yes, it is the issue.

It seems as if everyone has been hit by the crime wave here.

But you also hear a lot about former President Correa still, too.

He's been out of power for nearly 10 years, so it's kind of crazy to hear so much about him, but there is a lot of polarization.

His supporters look fondly on his rule they tend to gloss over his corruption charges his detractors blame him for much of the current economic and security crisis now and like correa they say gonzalez will bring socialism to ecuador both candidates though say they will keep relying on the military for fighting the drug gangs president noboa has declared a state of emergency and declared he is fighting an internal war against terrorists.

He's asked Trump personally for U.S.

military assistant and even to put a base here.

Gonzalez says that's a violation of Ecuadorian sovereignty, and she says she'll put more money into social programs and in hard-hit communities.

Oh, there you go.

You know who?

Rubio.

Rubio to Ecuador.

Got to get a base in there.

Get your people some stable coin.

Yes, well, I think that I said it before.

The reason you pick Rubio is because he speaks fluent in Spanish.

He's going to South America.

He's doing deals down there.

He's already straightened out the Panama thing, we think.

I mean, you can't really know what the hell's going on.

Yeah, this is perfect for him.

I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.

Imagine all the people who could do this.

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

Yeah,

on no agenda.

In the morning.

Ah, still to come.

We've got our No Agenda meetups.

We have our end of show mix of sick.

Three bangers today.

Three bangers.

Absolute bangers.

You'll love them.

Bangers.

Bangers.

And I've got some real ISOs.

People say, oh, man, I'm not listening to the Second Donation segment because of the fake fake ISOs, the fake ISOs.

Nobody has said that.

I got an email specifically saying that, just that.

P.S.

You said it to yourself.

John's going to take us through the people who donated $50 or above, as we appreciate every single one of you by going to noagendadonations.com.

John,

take it away.

Yes.

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He's adding, this adds to the 220 from the indie meetup.

Oh, okay.

Ah, that's what we had to put him on here for.

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Matthew Cargo in

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He says, Adam, use the ISO I sent in against the AI slop.

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What?

What?

I didn't even know what that is.

He says

you used the ISO you sent that he sent in against to compete against my AI material, which is anything but slop.

Oh, whoa.

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It is slop.

It's slop.

It's not slop.

Slop would be when it starts to deteriorate.

You're already mixing up your own definitions.

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He's Archduke of Lunar, lover of America, and lover of boobs.

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A lot of 8008s today.

Yep.

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Mojman.

Mojmann?

This is a Dutch name.

I can't pronounce it.

Rick Moimaum.

Rick Moermann.

From Reisweg.

Reisvik,

Netherlands.

Another 8008.

Good for him.

A boobs donation from Reiswick.

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He needs a dedouching.

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Lapierre, Michigan, 73.

73.

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This is a Gen X donation.

6580.

Okay, Gen X, sixty, five eighty.

That's a great donation.

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one.

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64.

Sir Skip Logic in Spring Hill, Tennessee,

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That's That's a boomer donation.

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Back to back.

Another random number situation.

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I want to thank these people for making show 15, I don't know, what is 17 to 56.

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It's incredible.

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I don't think he is a Commodore.

A lot of people are just claiming Commodore as their title for knight, which I find to be, I don't know if it's good or bad.

You say whatever you want.

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hang up on it.

Yeah, the no agenda meetups, they continue.

I think there was actually one that took place just before I got here in Leiden.

Oh, no, it's actually

today.

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I knew it.

It was on the list.

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We have the

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All right.

So I have one, two, three.

I have four genuine ISOs.

They're real.

This is not phony.

It's not AI.

It's not.

These are real, the ones I have.

No, they're all AI.

We all know what you're doing.

They're actual MP3 files.

Yes, they are.

Here are my ISOs.

They're all real.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

This is making me oddly happy and satisfied.

That's not bad.

That's okay.

Yeah, it's okay.

Yeah, it's a real one.

So that's it's actually quite astounding.

This is a podcaster fail, okay.

Okay,

and finally, I mean, could you want anything more in life?

Hmm,

I like that other one the best.

This is making me oddly happy and satisfied.

Yeah, I think

that's pretty good.

Yeah, all right.

So, what do you have, big boy?

Well, I have some ones I created.

Okay,

let's start with blah

blah blah blah blah.

No.

A hard pass.

Okay, then finally.

Finally.

The end.

And then go home.

Go home.

Show is over.

No, I think mine wins hands down.

I think so too.

Mine are all negative.

Yes, and I have a very

negative turn.

Yes, yes.

These are going to turn dark.

This is making me oddly happy and satisfied.

And now, everybody, it's time for the moment of the show you've been waiting for.

It is John C.

Dvorak's tip of the day.

Great master, you and me.

Just the tip with JCD

and sometimes Adam.

Created by Dana Bernetti.

Okay, so this time I'm going to be advising people to get on a mailing list.

Uh-oh.

This is the tip of the day.

Wow.

Okay.

It is the Scam Gram Consumer Actions Monthly Email.

It's actually entertaining.

I get it and I read it and it's interesting.

Okay.

The scam.

Scam Gram.

You go to consumer-action.org.

Click the box that says Scam Gram, and then sign up.

What do you get?

You get

a newsletter once a month that tells you all these crazy scams.

Well, give me an example of a scam.

Well, I can just open one of the newsletters.

Yeah, I mean, what kind of tip is this?

You just telling us.

The tip is to get, that's the tip.

It could be forwarding to a Dvorak Oasis sub stack for all we know.

Maybe.

There's a tip of the day.

Give us one of these scam tips from the newsletter.

Do you have it in front of you?

I just opened it.

Okay.

I'm just going to take a random scam

and read it.

All right.

I got to get my glasses.

It's in small type.

A few days ago, before we hear about a new aviation scare accent that rattles the nerves of the flying public, well, setting aside for a moment, and it's very long-winded, although we like to call it hard to believe we can't, the ABC six affiliates serving the Providence area of Rhode Island reported last week that the Barrington Police Department made an arrest in connection with a scam that claimed to be raising money for the family of two victims of the Washington, D.C.

mid-air plane collision.

I mean, that's one of the scams.

It goes on and on about that.

Yeah.

These are good stuff.

I'm telling you.

I mean, you might not like it.

No, this is a good tip.

During a case that just goes on, there's a million of these scams going on.

I just could randomly read any of them because

Good Housekeeping's website published a story this week about scams sparked by the looming closure of some 800 Joanne fabrics.

There's a scam involved.

I have it here.

I see one.

Apparently, a newsletter is going out with a picture of a sad puppy.

Oh, yes, everybody.

There it is, your tip of the day.

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That's right, everybody.

All right.

Moving up towards midnight here in the lowlands.

It's been a lot of fun.

Time to go out.

Party.

Time to party.

That's right.

Me and my Moroccan friends.

We're having a good time.

So I will be back for 4.20 for Easter, the show

back in Fredericksburg.

Very short trip this time, but I think I delivered the goods.

You know what's happening in the EU.

And EU, you should be telling us more about these things.

We need to know how you're really feeling.

I was quite surprised that our...

It was a depressing report.

Yeah, but still, our producers need to let us know when stuff has happened.

I think you're right.

I think they're dropping the ball.

Coming up next on No Agenda Stream, Trollroom.io, and your modern podcast app, Hog Story number 452.

Stay tuned for that.

And we have end of show mixes from...

Oh, we've got a Jones Brother sandwich.

Steve Jones, follow.

Actually, it's all Jones.

Professor Jay Jones.

No relation.

And then Neil Jones.

Random number theory at the end of show mixes.

Coming to you from just parallel to Runway 24 in Amsterdam School, the Netherlands.

In the morning, everybody.

I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C.

DeVorai.

We'll see you on Sunday.

Till then, Adios Mofos a hooey-hoo-eye.

And such.

And by any decent standard, they ought not to eat them.

Perhaps you had better.

Perhaps you had better.

Perhaps you had better start from the beginning.

Start from the start.

Mercury slide.

Mercury slide.

We'll have to work at Dark Side, though we gotta spend time in the shadows.

Mercury slide, Mercury Spa.

From the beginning.

From the beginning.

We are in process of developing a whole series of techniques which

will enable the controlling oligarchy to get people actually

to love their service

to love their nature

and to enjoy a state of affairs which

by any decent standard they ought not to enjoy, to enjoy, to enjoy it.

Too many kids are what's making the planet worse.

A lot of these kids come from bad teen pools.

They don't have stable parents making good decisions.

Mercury fly.

Yeah, the government had the right under U.S.

law to conduct secret testing on the American public under a specific condition.

Mercury fly, mercury fly, mercury fly, mercury fly.

Any attempt to achieve world order must be the work of the devil.

Well, join me.

I'm glad to secure the Vietnam to safe and by hand to safe

Sunday.

And all right, everybody, we're going for chaos.

Yes, stoners around the world have noticed that.

I'm curious why you noticed these.

On the media.

The dark forces of Satan, obviously.

The sour stench of chaos in the air.

Oh, yes.

Stench of chaos.

That's a good way to say that.

It's just all chaos and corruption.

It was chaos and confusion.

Chaos and confusion.

We're going for chaos, everybody.

Is it good?

We're going for chaos?

Are we got it?

Chaos?

Tonight, chaos and confusion across the federal government.

This morning, chaos and confusion across the federal government.

Chaos.

Maybe the kid went to Coachella and saw that Lady Gaga show.

Holy mackerel.

No one cares anymore.

Trump is a virus.

I always say tariffs is the most beautiful word to me in the dictionary.

They said, What about love,

religion, and God?

I said, I agree.

Let's put God number one.

Let's put religion number two.

Love, I don't know, I gotta put that number three, I guess, right?

And then it's tariff,

and then it's tariff, tariff, and then it's tariff, tariff, and then it's tariff,

And then it's tarot.

And then it's tarot.

And then it's tarot.

And then it's tariff.

And then it's tarot.

God, number one.

Religion number two.

Love, I don't know.

We gotta put that number three, I guess, right?

And then it's Tara.

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Adios, Mofo, javorak.org/slash na.

This is making me oddly happy and satisfied.