1755 - "Rat Poop"

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Speaker 2 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.

Speaker 3 It's Sunday, April 13th, 2025. This is your award-winning Game Bon Nation Media Assassination episode 1755.

Speaker 1 This is no agenda.

Speaker 7 Cutting through the chaos and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas home country here in FEMA region number six.

Speaker 11 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 1 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we've noticed that 4:20 and Easter are the same day. I'm John C.
Dvorak. It's Crackbot and Buzzkill in the morning.

Speaker 10 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 12 Donors around the world have noticed that.

Speaker 13 I'm curious why you noticed it.

Speaker 1 I noticed it because I was, I just noticed it. It's just

Speaker 1 unusual for me because it's usually you notice it after the show.

Speaker 16 Yes, this is true.

Speaker 1 After the donation opportunity was

Speaker 1 gone.

Speaker 17 Well, today is Palm Sunday, though.

Speaker 18 It's a good start.

Speaker 1 I guess.

Speaker 1 Yes. How come Ash? I thought Ash Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't even get to get into it.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 You did mention chaos. I have the super clip.

Speaker 12 Oh, we both have the super clip.

Speaker 2 Well, how long is your super clip?

Speaker 12 Mine is 52 seconds.

Speaker 1 Oh, I guess we have the same super clip.

Speaker 1 But I have a follow-up clip.

Speaker 22 Well, let me hit you with the super clip.

Speaker 9 Hit me with your super clip, baby.

Speaker 23 We begin this hour with the chaos.

Speaker 24 The average American sees chaos.

Speaker 26 The American people see chaos.

Speaker 28 It's total chaos. You brought chaos.

Speaker 10 It's just complete chaos.

Speaker 26 Unleashed in economic chaos.

Speaker 30 They unleash chaos.

Speaker 31 They are creating chaos.

Speaker 32 This chaos.

Speaker 33 Oh, there's too much chaos.

Speaker 34 Total chaos.

Speaker 24 And amidst the chaos.

Speaker 35 I'm going to see chaos. After seeing all the chaos, the chaos is unleashed on America.

Speaker 37 Continue to see the chaos. Economic chaos.

Speaker 38 A lot more chaos.

Speaker 24 Trump's chaos.

Speaker 39 This is chaos. With such chaos.

Speaker 40 The chaos. Because of this chaos.

Speaker 39 Chaos. All of this chaos.

Speaker 41 Uncertainty and chaos.

Speaker 43 And all that chaos.

Speaker 29 When it's chaos. All the chaos.
Chaos and confusion grow.

Speaker 44 More chaos, dysfunction.

Speaker 24 The chaos is the purpose. The chaos is the goal.

Speaker 46 It's chaos.

Speaker 48 Based upon that super clip, I would say this was probably launched by Schumer.

Speaker 50 He probably said, all right, everybody, we're going for chaos.

Speaker 1 Schumer seems to be the guy behind much of this.

Speaker 25 Yes.

Speaker 52 Yes.

Speaker 1 I was just going to to say I had the one additional clip, which is to prove that NPR is on board with the Democrat industrial complex.

Speaker 1 Here is part of the teaser for one of your favorite shows and one of your favorite hosts on the media.

Speaker 25 Oh, yes.

Speaker 55 With Brooke, with Brooke Gladstone.

Speaker 1 With Brooke, your buddy Brooke Gladstone. And

Speaker 1 here's her teaser.

Speaker 57 I'm looking for where the clips are.

Speaker 32 There's a lot going on right now. Mounting economic inequality, threats to democracy, environmental disaster, the sour stench of chaos in the air.

Speaker 61 You know,

Speaker 1 stench of chaos. That's a good one.

Speaker 19 We've had, there have been many chaos.

Speaker 58 I'm looking if we see any other

Speaker 49 chaos superclips.

Speaker 1 I think they toyed with it before. They were going with the threat to democracy.

Speaker 48 Well, they had chaos and confusion.

Speaker 65 That was

Speaker 66 February. Let's just check that.

Speaker 67 Tonight, confusion and chaos is spreading within a number of agencies across the federal government.

Speaker 70 Tonight, chaos and confusion across the federal government.

Speaker 71 This morning, chaos and confusion across the federal government.

Speaker 72 Okay, guys, listen.

Speaker 74 It's Chuck.

Speaker 75 Okay, chaos and confusion.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait. Simplify the message.

Speaker 77 It didn't work.

Speaker 75 The alliteration was good, but it was just too much.

Speaker 77 You're right.

Speaker 79 Thank you very much, John, for that input here on the Zoom Zoom call.

Speaker 82 We're going for chaos, everybody.

Speaker 22 Is it good?

Speaker 83 We're going for chaos.

Speaker 84 Everyone got it.

Speaker 85 Chaos?

Speaker 86 Chaos.

Speaker 25 Going for chaos.

Speaker 87 Simplify the message.

Speaker 77 Chaos and confusion was too much.

Speaker 88 It was too complicated.

Speaker 55 The American people could not figure it out.

Speaker 77 They couldn't parrot it.

Speaker 23 We didn't do a good job.

Speaker 91 Didn't do a good job.

Speaker 91 Ah, man.

Speaker 15 Well, interesting.

Speaker 15 What is this?

Speaker 11 Well, chaos.

Speaker 92 It's just good.

Speaker 89 It's good. And I can see

Speaker 23 where they tried to make this.

Speaker 58 I mean, first of all, no one cares anymore.

Speaker 94 People just don't care.

Speaker 95 They don't care about the...

Speaker 97 I have concluded.

Speaker 98 I'll restate what I said on the last show.

Speaker 101 Yes, this feels like

Speaker 64 we're in COVID.

Speaker 13 Everyone's responding the same way.

Speaker 17 As I was pondering this, I thought, oh, you are.

Speaker 103 I was pondering.

Speaker 81 I sat at home drinking my schnapps, pondering, smoking my pipe, pondering, what is really going on here?

Speaker 56 Hmm, rubbing my chin.

Speaker 1 And I said to myself, ah, of course, this is just a reignition.

Speaker 109 We have never gotten over the cultural trauma of COVID.

Speaker 85 That is still lingering.

Speaker 108 These things don't go away within a couple of years for us, John, you and I, perhaps.

Speaker 111 But

Speaker 48 I think that this is something you can reignite over and over again.

Speaker 113 But they have to use different words.

Speaker 104 Chaos is not the right word if you want to really trigger that COVID cultural trauma.

Speaker 64 I'm not quite sure what it is, but you've got to use something.

Speaker 114 I think they could trigger it on a dime if they had the right mechanism.

Speaker 1 Well, that's an interesting thesis.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to, it's like...

Speaker 104 You're not going to argue it?

Speaker 53 I'm not going to argue it.

Speaker 25 Thank you.

Speaker 102 That means I'm right.

Speaker 1 Well, you would definitely be right if they could come up with

Speaker 1 what you're looking for, which is the term, the triggering moment, the one thing. I haven't, you know,

Speaker 1 I can't think of anything.

Speaker 1 Somebody might come up with something that just you start saying it over and over again and everyone just goes back to COVID.

Speaker 95 Well, how can we use the word pandemic in a different manner?

Speaker 13 Can we say

Speaker 94 economic pandemic?

Speaker 118 Maybe?

Speaker 1 I think pandemic

Speaker 1 is part of the problem. That has to go.
Oh, that's no good.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm just thinking. It's like been beat up.
Yeah. I mean, with the, you know, it's this, you gotta have something that, I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's a great idea if you could come up with a useful thing.

Speaker 44 Virus, virus, virus.

Speaker 98 Can we use virus somehow?

Speaker 17 Trump is a virus.

Speaker 19 No, that doesn't work.

Speaker 25 We'll think about it.

Speaker 1 I think they're dead in the water with this.

Speaker 120 Oh, with the chaos, it's no good.

Speaker 1 No, it's no good. Well, no, with all of it, I don't think they're pulling anything off.

Speaker 13 Maybe you just say the economic

Speaker 73 the economic downturn is spreading like a pandemic.

Speaker 81 I mean, maybe it can be longer, perhaps.

Speaker 1 I don't think, no, they've already proven they can't deal with longer.

Speaker 25 You have to be

Speaker 25 simple.

Speaker 9 Because the people don't get it.

Speaker 123 They don't understand.

Speaker 83 It's chaos, people.

Speaker 84 Don't you see it's chaos?

Speaker 13 Well, adding to the chaos, and we might as well address this right off the bat, was this very bad day in aviation in New York in the Hudson River with the helicopter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you reported in real time.

Speaker 27 I did.

Speaker 22 Oh, yes, I did.

Speaker 1 Yes, you did.

Speaker 11 That's right.

Speaker 79 But we didn't know exactly.

Speaker 13 We hadn't seen all the video.

Speaker 73 Now we've got just amazing how much video we have, which is on one hand very helpful.

Speaker 19 On the other hand, not helpful.

Speaker 108 There seems to be a consensus among news experts, aviation news station experts, that, oh, this is mass bumping, mass bumping.

Speaker 130 It's got to be mass bumping.

Speaker 81 It sounds cool because people are like, well, what's mass bumping?

Speaker 17 I've never heard of mass bumping. Is it like clam bumping?

Speaker 12 No, it's mass bumping.

Speaker 25 It's something completely different.

Speaker 98 So I'll explain mass bumping and why I think this is not it.

Speaker 82 Although the results of what you saw with the tail rotor coming off, with the half of the tail boom,

Speaker 131 and

Speaker 109 the main, not just rotor, but the whole gear separating from the aircraft.

Speaker 133 Mass bumping first came to play with helicopters in Vietnam, with the big UH-1s, the UEs, where you'd be flying nape of the earth, as they call it.

Speaker 134 So flying very low.

Speaker 95 You go, there's a little hill in front of you. You pull back

Speaker 96 on the cyclic, on the stick, you pull back, you go up.

Speaker 135 You get to the top of the hill, you push it forward.

Speaker 48 Now, at that point, the helicopter, which typically is hanging underneath this rotor disc,

Speaker 108 that's what the rotor blades create a disc, and you're hanging underneath it. At that point, you have negative G force.

Speaker 103 So these blades, which are intended to flap up and down, they will actually flap so far down because of the lack of weight of the helicopter in negative G, that it can strike the boom.

Speaker 139 They called it mass bumping because typically, on those you wouldn't necessarily chop off the tail.

Speaker 55 You would bump it.

Speaker 111 It'd be like,

Speaker 124 but in helicopters with this type of dual blade semi-articulate rotor head design, it can't happen.

Speaker 139 Robinson's 2244, notorious for it.

Speaker 136 They're also relatively cheap helicopters and, in my opinion, kind of death traps.

Speaker 122 I don't like the 22 at all.

Speaker 86 The bell is not something that happens very often.

Speaker 73 You'd have to really go back in history to find a mass bumping where it chopped off the tail boom.

Speaker 112 And there was also no evidence of a negative G force.

Speaker 138 There was no ascent or descent of the helicopter from the video I could see.

Speaker 73 So that would mean it would have had to be in turbulence.

Speaker 57 There was no real turbulence reported.

Speaker 144 So to me, it looks like this was some catastrophic failure with

Speaker 65 the tail rotor assembly.

Speaker 19 That just, I mean, it looked like the, I mean, it just snapped off almost.

Speaker 92 And then once that Chinese parts,

Speaker 1 cheap Chinese parts.

Speaker 79 That is something I was thinking of.

Speaker 146 These are refurbished helicopters.

Speaker 85 That's possible.

Speaker 116 It feels like a maintenance issue.

Speaker 90 There's this report which did bring up something else which would be possible.

Speaker 71 New video obtained by ABC News showing that doomed sightseeing helicopter twisting in the air before breaking apart and dropping out of the sky.

Speaker 71 Federal safety investigators now pouring over the wreckage and the Army Corps of Engineers helping salvage pieces still in the water.

Speaker 71 And tonight, the NTSB is investigating reports reports of a large flock of birds in the area and is appealing to the public for help.

Speaker 71 A 17-minute flight ending in unspeakable tragedy for the family of five from Spain that was on board.

Speaker 71 Augustin Escobar and his wife Mercy, both executives at global tech company Siemens, along with their three children, ages four, eight, and ten, today would have been the middle child's ninth birthday.

Speaker 71 The pilot, 36-year-old Sean Johnson, a Navy veteran, posting this video on Facebook two weeks ago, showing himself flying over Manhattan.

Speaker 71 The NTSB says he had 788 hours of flight time, but investigators still calculating how much time he had spent in that particular helicopter.

Speaker 71 The operator, New York Helicopter Tours, has a good safety record. It flies hundreds of flights each week.

Speaker 56 Yeah, so no

Speaker 149 view of any bird strike is possible.

Speaker 13 You know, the video was not really clear enough.

Speaker 96 But if you have, if it's mass bumping, you probably see the aircraft start to rotate a little bit more than it did.

Speaker 57 And also, you probably wouldn't see the entire gearbox fly.

Speaker 139 I mean, it wasn't just the rotor that flew off, the rotor, the whole gearbox.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, cheap Chinese parts.

Speaker 151 You may be right.

Speaker 80 That is the only, it's got to be a maintenance issue.

Speaker 108 I believe this aircraft was refurbished

Speaker 117 a year or like 18 months ago.

Speaker 21 It's possible.

Speaker 1 You know, it's a bad day. Let's go.
Let's go meta. Let's go meta.
All right.

Speaker 1 It's not cheap Chinese parts.

Speaker 1 It was set up to fail so you could blame cheap Chinese parts as part of the negotiation.

Speaker 12 Well, why kill a family?

Speaker 131 CIA operator.

Speaker 1 They didn't like Siemens.

Speaker 131 Don't kill a family.

Speaker 112 This is no good.

Speaker 25 But you

Speaker 1 don't care.

Speaker 25 Cheap Chinese.

Speaker 1 They brought down into the, but they brought that flight with that Russian dude in it. He just brought that whole, whatever plane it was, a Yuliet Evich or whatever the hell it was.

Speaker 1 The Russians took down a whole flight?

Speaker 118 Yeah. Well, that's the Russians.

Speaker 87 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 81 But counterfeit.

Speaker 1 We would never do that.

Speaker 143 Counterfeit cheap parts from China.

Speaker 22 Yes.

Speaker 75 And that would be a good message to have

Speaker 73 at this point in this chaotic moment.

Speaker 144 It would be a good message to have.

Speaker 1 It will take

Speaker 1 probably, I'm guessing, because you just don't bring it right up as though you have it at your fingertips, this information. So there has to be a phony baloney investigation,

Speaker 1 which means that they will take about a week and they'll find cheap Chinese parts at the maintenance place, which would have been part of the

Speaker 1 so once they start looking into the parts is when they're going to find the cheap Chinese knockoffs.

Speaker 48 Well, we got cheap Chinese parts in our military equipment.

Speaker 98 I mean, we know that for a fact.

Speaker 115 So why wouldn't it be this?

Speaker 1 Cheap phony bolts, you know, bolts that are not SAE.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 14 What is that, S-A-E?

Speaker 1 SA certification engine. There's a standard for bolts.
You know, they test it. They take the bolt and then they twist it until it breaks.

Speaker 1 Real bolts made properly will

Speaker 1 take a lot more torque than a cheap phony bolt.

Speaker 114 I will say this is one of...

Speaker 108 So I have not flown a helicopter in over 10 years.

Speaker 73 as a pilot or a passenger because if I don't know who is maintaining it, I just won't get into it. Otherwise, I find them to be very safe.

Speaker 108 I would say I prefer a fully rigid rotorhead design, which would be your Augusta, your Sikorsky, or your Enstrom.

Speaker 108 For this very reason,

Speaker 48 I just don't like that stuff flapping around.

Speaker 25 But I've flown them.

Speaker 154 I've flown a lot of them.

Speaker 23 So this is a bad day.

Speaker 114 Bad day for the family, of course, but bad day for aviation.

Speaker 119 Everyone's,

Speaker 52 no good.

Speaker 19 Don't get in a helicopter. I'll never get in a helicopter.

Speaker 25 Never, ever, ever.

Speaker 1 Well, that goes along with all these crazy stories coming out of American Airlines.

Speaker 14 What's that?

Speaker 1 Well, people stripping on the, you know, having fights on the planes.

Speaker 1 Benefits.

Speaker 63 Stripping.

Speaker 1 That's in-flight entertainment.

Speaker 12 What are you talking about?

Speaker 81 That's fun.

Speaker 155 People are going nuts.

Speaker 10 They are.

Speaker 25 There's a lot of.

Speaker 12 What was

Speaker 1 this story?

Speaker 1 They haven't done this in the past, but it just seems to be worse.

Speaker 20 Have you heard this story?

Speaker 156 This morning, newly unsealed court documents allege this Wisconsin teenager, Nikita Kassap, killed his parents as part of a larger plot to assassinate the president and attempt to overthrow the U.S.

Speaker 156 government. Kassop's mother, Tatiana, and stepfather, Donald Mayer, were found shot and killed in their Waukesha home during a welfare check in late February.

Speaker 157 The body was

Speaker 157 appeared to have been deceased for some time, was unable to definitively identify who it was.

Speaker 156 Investigators say the 17-year-old Kassap killed them to obtain the financial means and autonomy necessary to carry out his plan.

Speaker 156 Officials add they found material on the suspect's phone related to a neo-Nazi group described by the FBI as a satanic cult.

Speaker 156 They also say they discovered a three-page document allegedly written by Kassop calling for the start of a revolution to, quote, save the white race.

Speaker 156 The documents allege Kassop paid, at least in part, for a drone and explosives, and that other parties knew of Kassap's plan, adding some even offered advice and assistance.

Speaker 156 Kassop was arrested in Kansas after police say he drove through a stop sign in his parents' car.

Speaker 105 I'm wondering that, you know, some knew of it, offering assistance.

Speaker 112 I wonder if we're going to hear that FBI might have had this kid on their radar.

Speaker 108 It is a six-week cycle period.

Speaker 79 Although, man, killing your parents and then hiding them, stuffing them in the closet until they decompose, that's that's pretty deranged.

Speaker 1 And then getting caught in Kansas. I mean, this kid is

Speaker 25 a lunatic.

Speaker 95 Maybe the kid went to Coachella and saw that Lady Gaga show.

Speaker 25 Holy mackerel. I said yes.

Speaker 120 Holy mackerel.

Speaker 1 You know, she's worried.

Speaker 1 The various sets she use are all satanic, including, and the one with the Baphomet

Speaker 25 hat. Yeah.
What was she trying to do? What is she doing?

Speaker 75 Well, she's calling out the dark forces of Satan, obviously.

Speaker 25 For what?

Speaker 1 What does she need the dark forces of Satan for? Is her sales down that much?

Speaker 1 Does she need more

Speaker 1 accolades? I mean, what is she looking for? Is she trying to get more, another

Speaker 1 Tony Grammy, or whatever she wants to do? Well, no.

Speaker 35 I think this is just

Speaker 143 the other part of the deal.

Speaker 20 No, you.

Speaker 1 Is this part of the deal? She has to do this now,

Speaker 1 yes. And forever?

Speaker 81 Well, Madonna's still doing it.

Speaker 105 She's doing the same stuff.

Speaker 1 And she's starting to look like it, too. She looks like the devil.

Speaker 65 And she looks like hell.

Speaker 22 But I love the Cavalier reporting by the SF Gate tech reporter, Stephen Counsel,

Speaker 21 who was just saying, oh, it's great.

Speaker 129 And then she went into this just great rendition of that.

Speaker 129 And it was great.

Speaker 155 Oh, and it's so awesome during the Abrica Endeavor.

Speaker 1 The journalists in the San Francisco Bay Area are oblivious to Satanism.

Speaker 73 Do they not see what's going on?

Speaker 1 They can't know they can't see it.

Speaker 113 But it was a triumph of artistic teamwork and care and of joint catharsis.

Speaker 94 Gaga knows the basic truths that concerts are fun if everyone's dancing and that choruses sound excellent when thousands of voices yell every word.

Speaker 129 Satan!

Speaker 9 That construct, basic hit laden, is in her wheelhouse ten times out of ten.

Speaker 150 But it wouldn't have been enough if she gave Coachella more, and we're lucky to have seen it i am lucky to have and you do you see the crowd

Speaker 159 they were lunatics

Speaker 116 yeah it's cotella man

Speaker 31 no coachella

Speaker 52 yeah

Speaker 57 this at this point it's just i mean it was almost a throwback to you know five or you know ten yeah five years ago now she just brought it back with a vengeance dark forces very dark it's dark this lady Very, very dark.

Speaker 106 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm not even, I wouldn't call myself a religious type like you. I'm a Jesus.
But I can see it a mile away. It's like, what doesn't take a genius when you're wearing a bathlemette headdress?

Speaker 87 Let me come out.

Speaker 83 Just kind of a giveaway, Lady Gaga, just a little bit of a giveaway.

Speaker 25 Like, holy mackerel, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 It wasn't even close to trying to cover it up. It wasn't.

Speaker 49 It was just wow.

Speaker 92 It was wow.

Speaker 23 So let's talk about the chaos for a second because I will have to say that there is some

Speaker 13 level of, well, actually, let's go to the one of the progenitors of the chaos meme.

Speaker 73 She's in the Supercut several times, and she kept bringing it up during this

Speaker 124 interview on ABC with Jonathan Carl.

Speaker 35 These are all the Sunday shows.

Speaker 122 Thank you, Brother Steve Jones of the Jones Cartel for doing these.

Speaker 48 He sends them to me like, you know, half an hour before showtime, so I can just listen to him.

Speaker 50 Here she is about the chaos, the tariff craziness.

Speaker 1 We had this exemption on all electronics, and he said that the reason is because they're going to impose new tariffs in the coming months.

Speaker 1 What do you sense? What's going on here?

Speaker 92 What's going on?

Speaker 42 Look, there is no tariff policy. Look, it's just all chaos and corruption.

Speaker 163 No,

Speaker 163 hold on.

Speaker 83 Do you hear that she's back to the old meme?

Speaker 1 Chaos and corruption.

Speaker 113 Yeah, she went back to chaos and corruption.

Speaker 124 Yeah, Liz, this is Chuck.

Speaker 150 We already decided we would keep it just a chaos.

Speaker 48 Please don't bring back the chaos and corruption.

Speaker 112 It doesn't work.

Speaker 1 You're talking too fast for Schumer.

Speaker 125 Yeah, well,

Speaker 164 I'm trying to get back to the clip.

Speaker 42 It's a tariff policy. It's just all chaos and corruption.

Speaker 51 That's all we have going on.

Speaker 96 What's the evidence for corruption, by the way?

Speaker 76 I'd like to know.

Speaker 10 What is the corruption?

Speaker 29 What's the part of it?

Speaker 1 I don't get it.

Speaker 42 And how can you believe any of these guys? What did Donald Trump tweet about?

Speaker 120 Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 138 It was chaos and confusion.

Speaker 110 She's.

Speaker 1 She's made it even worse. You know, she is freelancing.

Speaker 1 She's freelancing. You have to remember that Elizabeth Warren was an inch away of almost becoming president.
when Hillary was running the first time

Speaker 1 around.

Speaker 1 Because Elizabeth Warren was seen because she was an an up-and-comer. She was a superstar.

Speaker 1 And then she's, I don't know what happened to her. She's not even close to being what she was then.

Speaker 1 She's just an old, crazy old lady.

Speaker 73 I know what happened is when she said to her husband, you want to be here?

Speaker 19 That's when everybody went, no, no, no, you're good.

Speaker 13 You stay in your cocoon, Liz.

Speaker 116 All right, back to chaos and corruption.

Speaker 42 There is no tariff policy. It's just all chaos and corruption.

Speaker 166 That's all we have going on.

Speaker 42 And how can you believe any of these guys? What did Donald Trump tweet out all in caps? I will not back down. How many hours was that? 24 hours, 30 hours before he turned around and backed down.

Speaker 42 They talk about an emergency. They've got a 10% tariff on basically every country in the world, everywhere.

Speaker 42 What's the emergency that we have with Belgium or the emergency we have with South Korea?

Speaker 102 So, look, these guys are into chaos and into corruption.

Speaker 51 They're into it.

Speaker 12 Like Baphomet, they're into chaos and corruption.

Speaker 42 And this is the reason that it is time for Congress to step up and to say, under the authority that the president is currently using by declaring these national emergencies, no.

Speaker 42 The law says specifically Congress can just say, there's no national emergency across the board here and revoke that authority from the president.

Speaker 42 That will mean we can go back to having actually a real tariff policy. Congress will have its position in place and then we can negotiate where we need to negotiate.
But we got to stop this craziness.

Speaker 77 It's really crazy.

Speaker 19 It's really a cold day in hell when Elizabeth Warren and Rand Paul agree with each other.

Speaker 96 Because that's what this is about.

Speaker 74 This is about, oh, we got to take it back.

Speaker 90 Only Congress.

Speaker 117 And by the way, they're senators.

Speaker 49 But okay.

Speaker 107 The House of Representatives.

Speaker 44 isn't it just the House that has the power of the person?

Speaker 1 The House is the first strings, yeah.

Speaker 98 But Rand Paul is on this too.

Speaker 51 He's like, oh, whatever happens, we got to stop it here.

Speaker 65 Instead of, I don't know,

Speaker 165 take a risk, man.

Speaker 23 Help pass the tax cut for everybody.

Speaker 1 I understand that you want to effectively repeal, if I have it right, the 1977 law that they're using to justify this.

Speaker 155 No, no, no. No.

Speaker 62 It's

Speaker 25 going to use

Speaker 10 the law.

Speaker 162 Yeah. That's right.

Speaker 42 And use the part that says, no, when the president declares an emergency, it is then up to Congress to say, okay, by standing by, or to say, no, there is not the kind of emergency that you have declared.

Speaker 162 I want us to follow the law.

Speaker 79 Very rich from someone who always voted yes for war without actually voting on it.

Speaker 14 Just, ah, president says war, let's do it.

Speaker 99 It's fine.

Speaker 85 When's the last time we had

Speaker 73 an actual resolution to go to war?

Speaker 53 Was that?

Speaker 53 World War II.

Speaker 1 I think that was, I don't think we had one sense. Okay, so, but, but that law does not mention the power to tariff.
And as you heard me also ask the Secretary of Commerce.

Speaker 114 Now it kind of makes sense that they wanted everybody to hear the words.

Speaker 95 No, tariff is a tax.

Speaker 142 It's a tax. Tariff is a tax.
It's a tax. It's just a tax.
It's a tax on the people. Tariff is a tax.

Speaker 99 It's a tax on the people.

Speaker 1 The Constitution itself makes it clear that the power to impose duties, tariffs, duties, lies with Congress. There's also a constitutional challenge here.

Speaker 1 Do you think the courts are going to step in here?

Speaker 164 We don't want that to happen.

Speaker 42 The courts may step in here, but we don't have to wait for the courts to step in here.

Speaker 76 Look,

Speaker 42 every Democrat is ready to go to push back and take away from the president the power he's now exercising and the chaos he's now creating.

Speaker 42 The question is whether or not the Republicans will join us in this. There will be a vote in about 15 days.
And the Republicans can either decide that their entire job is to-hyperventilating.

Speaker 87 You know what?

Speaker 90 That's what makes it interesting to listen to.

Speaker 29 Nothing but the.

Speaker 1 You know, another thing is,

Speaker 1 where is this chaos?

Speaker 129 In her mind.

Speaker 19 It's in her brain.

Speaker 13 Well, if you just say chaos a lot on television and it gets through to social media, then people, wow, man.

Speaker 173 Did you hear about the chaos?

Speaker 92 Yeah, I heard about some chaos.

Speaker 119 There's a lot of chaos going on.

Speaker 131 They're drumming it up. They're ginning it up.

Speaker 42 That their entire job is to do nothing but bow down to Donald Trump or the Republicans in Congress can say that their job is to stand up for the American people and to stand up for the American economy.

Speaker 52 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 129 Well, I have one more clip and then we'll be done with her.

Speaker 1 So where do Democrats stand on this fundamental issue?

Speaker 72 Tariffs, good or bad?

Speaker 10 Well, I think that.

Speaker 63 Whoa, hold on.

Speaker 9 oh trick question

Speaker 1 the democrat we have to just as a little background for everybody out there yes traditionally yes they've been all for it the democrats have the democrats versus the republicans the democrats have always been for heavy-duty tariffs for both economic reasons and protectionist reasons the republicans have traditionally always been dead set against all tariffs yes and they want free trade and so

Speaker 1 we could dig up clips. We don't have them handy.
At least I don't have to.

Speaker 12 Hillary Clinton, Obama, Hillary Clinton,

Speaker 25 Schumer, Bill Clinton, Schumer, all of them. All of them.
All of them.

Speaker 1 Obama.

Speaker 29 Warren Buffett in 2007.

Speaker 25 Everybody. Everybody is going to be.

Speaker 1 On and on and on about how we need to tariff, especially China. So this is a trick question.
And of course, because Trump is now on the Democrat side of the argument, oh, now we got to switch side.

Speaker 1 We can't have it.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I love her little pause here.

Speaker 161 Here we go. So

Speaker 11 you shouldn't ask me that, Carl.

Speaker 42 I think Democrats are entirely united that Donald Trump's across-the-board tariffs are bad. They make no economic sense.

Speaker 55 No economic sense.

Speaker 42 But that doesn't mean there aren't specific cases where tariffs make a lot of sense.

Speaker 42 If you have a plan in mind, a goal in mind, tariffs can be a tool in the economic toolbox.

Speaker 56 So she is now on board with the, okay,

Speaker 50 tariffs, yes, but I don't like how he's doing it.

Speaker 72 It's chaotic.

Speaker 163 But remember the underline here.

Speaker 42 And I think you're right to focus on prices and costs. What did Donald Trump say on day one? He said on day one, he would lower prices.
That's what he ran on.

Speaker 42 Once he got elected, his first interview, he said the reason he won is because he said on day one, he would lower prices.

Speaker 42 He's six weeks in when someone points out to him that the tariff policy he's pursuing is likely to raise prices.

Speaker 92 Listen to this false argument.

Speaker 83 What do you call that?

Speaker 15 False equivalency.

Speaker 115 The prices of

Speaker 112 mainly gasoline have come down dramatically.

Speaker 64 Yeah. A dollar for me, a dollar.

Speaker 128 It's noticeable.

Speaker 81 And even eggs.

Speaker 14 Egg prices.

Speaker 58 That's why you don't have many.

Speaker 1 The problem with the eggs prices is they haven't come down universally, and so they'll find someplace where the eggs are still expensive.

Speaker 87 Believe me, believe me, believe me.

Speaker 94 I found the clip.

Speaker 79 But so now she's saying, oh, no, but he said it'll bring prices down, but what he's doing is going to make them go up, even though prices have come down.

Speaker 25 And he said he couldn't care less.

Speaker 42 And that's the problem.

Speaker 62 He said that?

Speaker 130 I don't remember him saying that.

Speaker 7 He said he couldn't care less. And he couldn't care less.

Speaker 42 He couldn't care less. And that's the problem we've got.
Donald Trump and the Republicans.

Speaker 79 Oh, so the problem is not tariffs.

Speaker 75 It's that he said he couldn't care less.

Speaker 42 It's like they've taken a five-gallon bucket of paint and just thrown it across the economy and said, there, that'll take care of everything.

Speaker 61 Is Elizabeth Warren some kind of super economist that I'm unaware of?

Speaker 55 Because she's using such great analogs as a five-gallon of paint thrown across the economy.

Speaker 1 This is, you're right, she's very unhinged here.

Speaker 25 They hysterical.

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 42 Are trying to put tariffs in place on every country,

Speaker 42 on virtually every product that they export to the United States, and they're trying to do it all at once with no policy in mind.

Speaker 42 So I hear from a small business here in Massachusetts who says, gosh, I'm a fabricator. I bring in raw materials from other countries.

Speaker 42 I then make my product here in the United States and export it to other countries.

Speaker 111 What's weak about her argument here is if you're a politician, you just say, you know, Bill, Bill the welder, or, you know, she has no name, she has no company name, she has no actual products, so she's just making it up.

Speaker 42 He said, what Donald Trump is doing just completely destroys my business.

Speaker 162 I just close up shop.

Speaker 42 That's all I can do.

Speaker 1 That hasn't even been in place yet, but all of a sudden,

Speaker 14 it's done. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 42 Doesn't care about costs for families, doesn't care about what this does for small businesses.

Speaker 29 Doesn't care.

Speaker 42 Instead, he's off trying to make Republicans bend a knee and say whatever he wants them to say, and trying to get world leaders to suck up to him.

Speaker 42 Congress has the ability to put a stop to that, and we need to put a stop to it now.

Speaker 81 Oh, and she's shaking when she says this.

Speaker 46 Her whole head is shaking.

Speaker 1 She's a wreck.

Speaker 1 This bend the knee thing is also getting annoying.

Speaker 131 Oh, I hadn't actually caught that.

Speaker 124 Bend the knee.

Speaker 150 That's good.

Speaker 93 That's good. You're right.

Speaker 25 Bend the knee.

Speaker 17 So then, what happened?

Speaker 175 What I thought was odd is: you know, so we got

Speaker 109 an executive order and a clarification

Speaker 13 of this came out

Speaker 48 two days ago: clarification of exceptions under Executive Order 14257

Speaker 117 of April 2nd, 2025,

Speaker 128 as amended.

Speaker 79 And it doesn't specify. Maybe I don't understand.

Speaker 64 There's a lot of legal.

Speaker 36 I need the constitutional lawyer.

Speaker 107 But it's really about semiconductors.

Speaker 137 Now, does an iPhone qualify as semiconductor?

Speaker 1 I think iPhones,

Speaker 53 I think the

Speaker 1 cellular phones were mentioned specifically.

Speaker 98 Well, not in what I see.

Speaker 1 Well, semiconductors, they got them in there. I don't know.
My understanding is that computers, cell phones, and semiconductor cells.

Speaker 29 Well, yeah, but

Speaker 95 this is what I'm so afraid of, is that

Speaker 108 that's my understanding too, but I can't find any actual verbiage that says

Speaker 117 it's about cell phones.

Speaker 152 I see semiconductors everywhere, but I don't see cell phones.

Speaker 33 So I'm just curious if this has just been thrown out there.

Speaker 63 Let me see.

Speaker 1 Nobody's arguing against it. Nobody's saying it's not cell phones.
You're the the only one so far.

Speaker 85 That's right.

Speaker 29 That's right.

Speaker 178 I'm arguing against this.

Speaker 89 I don't...

Speaker 53 No more.

Speaker 1 Yes, this is loud.

Speaker 179 I'm so disappointed.

Speaker 7 Get rid of these cell phones.

Speaker 70 Look, you're talking about the fact that the...

Speaker 35 This is Kristen Welker, your girl, with Peter Navarro.

Speaker 152 Is Peter Navarro on his way out?

Speaker 108 It feels like

Speaker 1 he's been away. Well, he's definitely on his.

Speaker 1 He gets more airtime than anybody.

Speaker 178 Because he's crazy.

Speaker 44 He says crazy stuff.

Speaker 12 No wonder.

Speaker 70 Look, you're talking about

Speaker 11 stop with the look.

Speaker 70 Look, you're talking about the fact that the White House has a strategy.

Speaker 70 The Commerce Secretary, the Treasury Secretary, the President himself said there would not be exclusions, and yet just yesterday there were exclusions.

Speaker 70 So is there, in fact, a plan or is the president making this up as he goes along?

Speaker 180 So the policy is no exemptions, no exclusions. The policy is in effect.

Speaker 180 There were not exclusions.

Speaker 180 Let me explain.

Speaker 180 This is really good for the American people to understand. There's like different ways to go about getting fairness for the American people.

Speaker 180 The IPA is also used for the trade deficit, but there's also a really important thing, Kristen. This deals with the chips issue you're talking about.

Speaker 180 That's what we call this.

Speaker 1 You know, I've been listening to this guy. He sounds plastered half the time.

Speaker 1 He's always slurring. And in this case, I heard it again.

Speaker 1 I'm wondering.

Speaker 25 All right, I'm sorry.

Speaker 92 Keep going.

Speaker 89 No, I thought there was a second.

Speaker 17 I thought it was a comma.

Speaker 173 I'm wondering.

Speaker 48 I thought there was something.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm just one. No, I'm wondering whether he's like

Speaker 1 an alcoholic. Oh.

Speaker 180 And this deals with the chips issue you're talking about. That's what we call the section 232 issue, which is when we have a flood of imports being dumped into certain key strategic sectors.

Speaker 182 Okay, hold on a second.

Speaker 98 I'm reading.

Speaker 94 This comes from Luttnick.

Speaker 16 And Lutnik said all those products, cell phones, laptops, et cetera, are going to come under semiconductors.

Speaker 73 and are going to have a special focus type of tariff to make sure that those products get re-shored.

Speaker 99 So they don't, it was Luttnick, our commerce secretary, who said electronic devices, but it is specifically mentioned as semiconductors.

Speaker 150 And now we have to go and get a, you know, so

Speaker 108 yeah, I guess it has other stuff in there, but sure, it's filled with semiconductors.

Speaker 21 So anyway, just a point of note.

Speaker 180 Into certain key strategic sectors, steel, aluminum, chips, pharmaceuticals, as we learned during COVID, we have to take specific actions.

Speaker 180 So what we're doing with chips, the problem, interestingly for chips, because it's very complex stuff, is that we don't buy a lot of chips like in bags, we buy them in products. There you go.

Speaker 180 So what Secretary of Commerce Howard Luttnick is going to do,

Speaker 180 is doing it as we speak, is an investigation of the chip supply chain. The goal is stability and resilience.
And you will see

Speaker 180 actions taken based on those investigations on copper. We've already have steel and aluminum.
We already have autos. There will be pharmaceuticals.
And there will be chips and the important thing is

Speaker 180 there's three kinds there's the high-end chips which is the ai future okay we've got to get control of that and then there's everything else that fuels our autos and everything and and on down i i will it's not chaos but it's unclear i mean you can say well copper but there's copper in iphones So, you know, there's chips in washing machines.

Speaker 120 So

Speaker 63 this is a little sketchy.

Speaker 1 My washing machine there's nothing.

Speaker 130 You're happy if there's a motor on it.

Speaker 12 You don't have to crank it by hand.

Speaker 70 Fair enough. I hear what you're saying on investigation, but there is currently an exclusion for some of the products.

Speaker 180 You want to call it exclusion potatoes, patarios? No, it's not a correct.

Speaker 181 What it is.

Speaker 7 Potatoes, potatoes.

Speaker 181 But let's say,

Speaker 180 let's just.

Speaker 183 Let's just put it this way.

Speaker 98 Navarro should not be a spokeshole for anything.

Speaker 184 If I were the president, I'd be like, no, hey, Pete, Pete, baby, come back here.

Speaker 73 Sit down, be quiet.

Speaker 117 You're not good at doing this.

Speaker 180 Potatoes, patients,

Speaker 180 what it is.

Speaker 180 Well, but let's say,

Speaker 180 let's just.

Speaker 180 Here's, I think, another thing that's really important. When people talk about the chaos or lack of strength, whatever, you just go back to day one.
I was there when the president signed it.

Speaker 180 It was the second to last order he signed. It was in the old one.

Speaker 99 Well, you're right.

Speaker 36 He does sound a bit slurry there.

Speaker 114 I was there in the oval when the president signed it.

Speaker 65 I was there with a fifth.

Speaker 180 It was the second to last order he signed. It was in the oval.
Bro, blow. that night.

Speaker 180 And it was the American First Trade Policy, which laid out every single thing we're doing.

Speaker 180 And it would be remiss for anybody in the media not to review that carefully and see that there's rhyme to our reason and rhythm to what we're doing.

Speaker 79 There's rhyme to the reason and the rhythm to the bang-diddy-bang-bang, shoe-bop, shoo-bop, baby.

Speaker 70 But now the administration is actually on its website saying that they're offering refunds for some of these pods.

Speaker 62 Oh,

Speaker 93 no, I don't know.

Speaker 105 It sounds very random to me.

Speaker 12 That would be, it's random, random chaos.

Speaker 136 No,

Speaker 105 also got, if you want to hear, I've got Ro Conna on this with Margaret here.

Speaker 117 Let's play this.

Speaker 113 Roe, Ro Connor.

Speaker 185 In the coming days, you're also going to go to Connecticut to Yale Law on Tuesday.

Speaker 185 Are you trying to sort of troll Vice President Vance? And if so, why?

Speaker 186 Well, no, I mean, Cleveland City Club invited me to give a speech on the economy, and let's talk about these tariffs.

Speaker 63 Ro Connor, they were chaotic.

Speaker 51 Yes.

Speaker 25 RoConnor.

Speaker 1 What has he got to do with anything that they'd invite him to give a speech on the economy? And he's going to use the word chaos. I heard that.
Okay.

Speaker 186 And they were totally

Speaker 186 haphazard.

Speaker 186 So you had Howard Luttnick on saying that we were going to bring manufacturing back, electronics manufacturing back to the United States. And they realized suddenly that that wasn't going to happen.

Speaker 186 Actually, the iPhone price would go up to...

Speaker 21 Oh, so okay, so this is spiking the ball.

Speaker 79 Hey, boys, remember we said that iPhone was going to be $3,500. Everybody bought it.

Speaker 55 They buckled under it.

Speaker 186 $1,700 or $2,000. And by the way, if that manufacturing moved, it would probably move to Malaysia or Vietnam.

Speaker 186 So they suddenly reverse, they exempt all of electronics manufacturing, which is about a third of our trade deficit.

Speaker 186 And I'm here at the Cleveland City Club to say, if you want to have electronics manufacturer here, the way to do it is not blanket tariffs.

Speaker 186 You have to create an electronic manufacturing hub, the kind we did with the CHIPS Act. That means investing in tool engineering and workforce.

Speaker 186 It means having investment tax credits.

Speaker 186 It means having government buy things from the United States. The president has no plan of how to actually have high-end advanced manufacturing in the United States.
All right.

Speaker 11 I think that Lutnik is the bad actor here.

Speaker 144 I think Luttnik said something he shouldn't have, and he probably said it from pressure.

Speaker 72 Because he's a hedge fund guy.

Speaker 12 I think he got pressured into saying, oh, no, we'll take, maybe he's just just in love with his iPhone.

Speaker 58 I don't know.

Speaker 185 Well, we didn't get a clear answer on when these semiconductor tariffs are coming, but the administration argues they're in the pipeline and that, you know, China's not going to get a free pass when it comes to

Speaker 190 tech.

Speaker 185 What is that going to mean for your part of the country?

Speaker 186 Well, it's again, they don't have any

Speaker 186 sense of when the tariff will come, when it won't come, and they're against the CHIPS Act. So how are you going to, let's say, you suddenly put tariffs on China?

Speaker 186 What it would mean is the production would move to other parts of Asia. It still isn't going to come here unless you're financing those factories here, willing to buy here.

Speaker 186 Tariffs can be a tool used as a broader Hamiltonian industrial policy. And that's what I'm here in Ohio to talk about, which is what is actually going to bring advanced manufacturing to this country.

Speaker 122 What is the harmonized Hamiltonian?

Speaker 13 What is Hamiltonian?

Speaker 173 Did Hamilton do tariffs?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't remember.

Speaker 112 So I'm looking under the definition.

Speaker 1 I know Jefferson did, and it caused an economic collapse.

Speaker 13 Let me see, semiconductors.

Speaker 1 Well, I got some clips. Okay, please.

Speaker 14 Well, I'll look up this.

Speaker 134 Let's start.

Speaker 95 I'm still digging in this.

Speaker 1 I got some trade analysis clips which are be part of this, which is part of it about tariffs, actually. But let's start with this tariff high-tech reprieve kicker clip.

Speaker 126 Hold on a second.

Speaker 159 Here we go.

Speaker 147 Apple, NVIDIA, and other tech companies landed major relief in President Trump exempting smartphones and other electronics from new tariffs.

Speaker 192 As NPR's Bobby Allen reports, the tech industry had been bracing itself for a major shock.

Speaker 171 U.S. Customs and Border Protection published tariff exclusions late Friday that include smartphones, laptops, memory chips, and machines that create semiconductors.

Speaker 171 Fear of a sudden spike in the price of iPhones sent some customers rushing to buy new devices. And Apple charted a cargo plane from India to fly 600 tons of iPhones out to avoid the new levies.

Speaker 171 But Apple and Nvidia, two of the most valuable companies in the world, have for now won a reprieve. The Trump administration has pushed tech companies to manufacture more electronics in the U.S.

Speaker 171 But executives say the cost of labor, advanced supply chains abroad, along with hyper-specialized workers, would make moving production to the U.S. in some cases nearly impossible.

Speaker 1 Impossible to do it here because we're a bunch of dummies. Our education system is teaching gender studies instead of electronics engineering.
Let's face reality, let's talk about that a little bit.

Speaker 1 So, they mentioned that in that report: 600 tons of iPhones-that's quite a lot of iPhones

Speaker 1 coming out of India.

Speaker 34 What are they doing in India?

Speaker 1 I didn't know they made them. They thought Foxconn made them all in China.
What are they doing? What's India got to do with it?

Speaker 137 What happened to the Foxconn plant in Ohio?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that was a first go. Remember that?

Speaker 63 Remember that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that was a first go-round of more showing that we can't do anything anymore because, well,

Speaker 1 teaching kids gender studies and turning them and having their nuts chopped off doesn't really help.

Speaker 102 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's go to my. Now I'm going to trade analysis.
This is Michael. Now, this I picked up from

Speaker 51 the Mark Levan show on

Speaker 1 his TV show on Fox. Yes.
And he had Michael Pillsbury is the China expert at the

Speaker 1 Heritage Foundation. He's quite good.
These clips are, and I can, and he goes on, this is just a part of a longer talk, but this is good stuff.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Trade, analysis.

Speaker 173 Yes, I see it.

Speaker 48 I'm just looking to make sure I get the right one.

Speaker 193 As I understand it, the Chinese economy is hurting right now.

Speaker 142 And number two,

Speaker 193 if they actually want to go toe-to-toe with the United States in a tariff war, because most of these other countries want to meet with President Trump and negotiate some kind of deal, apparently China does not, or at least they want to save face.

Speaker 193 They don't want to show that they do.

Speaker 66 How's that going to wind up for China?

Speaker 195 Well, it's a big risk for China either way. If they make concessions and try to get President Trump off their back,

Speaker 195 the risk is their economy will be even slower in its growth rate. And the politics will be that there'll be challengers to Xi Jinping that he's been too soft on the Americans and he's a coward.

Speaker 195 This has happened before in Chinese history.

Speaker 195 The Chinese Communist Party has what they call the 10 big struggles. And each time the party chairman was kicked out, sometimes murdered.

Speaker 195 So that's one side for Xi Jinping to be thinking about, should I meet President Trump halfway, head off a trade war?

Speaker 195 Or the other choice entirely

Speaker 195 is be tough. Do not give anything.
And Xi Jinping has a record of wanting to tell what he calls the global south Mark. That's like 3 billion people.

Speaker 195 He wants to portray China as an honest sort of advocate of fairness for the global south. That means less money for people like you and me who live in the global north.

Speaker 195 So there's a big incentive to Xi Jinping to be tough, to do nothing, and to steer things around like he did the first time this happened. back in 2017.

Speaker 195 He got talks started with delegations. In that case, there were 13 rounds, Mark, 13 rounds of negotiations back and forth, back and forth, one in Beijing, one back in Washington.

Speaker 195 President Trump brought the Chinese negotiator into the Oval Office in front of the media, tried to put pressure on him that way. That agreement was, Mr.

Speaker 195 Trump said, and I agree with him, it was wonderful, it was great, it was an all-time historical agreement between the two biggest economies.

Speaker 195 And the Chinese proceeded to not honor it in almost any way at all.

Speaker 1 Yes, there was his final. What I don't have him clip though is he's saying that if you're going to have, he says Trump's a little wiser this time around.

Speaker 1 He's going to bring in people that don't trust China, which every time he said it, it was like, I kept thinking of the clip, don't trust China.

Speaker 173 Hold on a second.

Speaker 1 Here it is. Donald Trump, don't trust China.
Don't trust China.

Speaker 170 China is SO. There you go.

Speaker 17 That was wise words.

Speaker 183 That was our first trade representative.

Speaker 22 So here we go with clip two.

Speaker 195 So that could be the model for what we're going to see over the coming year is Chinese stalling. That's a key word.
They'll stall us

Speaker 195 and make the minimum concessions to prevent really massive tariffs being put on them and other kinds of punishment and just try to wait Mr. Trump out.

Speaker 193 If these tariffs stay in place, I mean, we're talking about massive tariffs for a period of time. What will that do to China's economy?

Speaker 195 Well, it depends depends on what China's trading partners do and on the Chinese consumer market.

Speaker 195 What Xi Jinping has been up to the last two or three years is saying we have to turn inward and have our own people, our own rising middle class, buy our products and to some degree rely much less on the Americans or the European Union.

Speaker 195 That's the thrust of what Xi Jinping is doing. And I think you know why.
He's been anticipating this kind of tariff attack from Mr. Trump.

Speaker 195 When I was last in China about a year ago, I got an earful of how they're getting ready for Trump. They're not afraid of him.

Speaker 195 They can outlast him for two or three years and don't believe anything negative about our Chinese economy. That's the official Chinese propaganda line.
Our economy is doing fine.

Speaker 195 We're going to have 5% growth next year. You Americans will be lucky to get 1.5 or 2%.

Speaker 195 So we're going to be double or triple your American growth rate. So this is what's been coming out of China.

Speaker 138 That's pretty funny.

Speaker 130 Hey, we're going to be double or triple.

Speaker 17 Yes, our current current growth rate is what, 0.6?

Speaker 83 So, yeah, okay, 1.5 is triple.

Speaker 25 Woohoo!

Speaker 195 So we're going to be double or triple your American growth rate. So this is what's been coming out of China.
Now, is that a lie? Is that bluster? Do they just not know?

Speaker 195 This is what we're going to have to find out. And I'm afraid it's going to be the hard way, just like in President Trump's first term.

Speaker 195 He's going to have to get the talks going and get documents down in writing to say, you know, we will do this. We will not do that.

Speaker 47 Here's a question for you.

Speaker 23 Did

Speaker 73 the initial tariffs that President Trump put in and President Biden kept in on China, did that raise the price of iPhones?

Speaker 81 I think iPhones stayed the same, didn't they, generally speaking?

Speaker 135 Maybe adjusted for a little bit of inflation.

Speaker 1 Well, you have to base it on the margin, and it looks like the margin didn't change much.

Speaker 65 Okay. So

Speaker 73 that was what? That was, what was it?

Speaker 98 Do you know the tariff rate

Speaker 137 20%

Speaker 121 I don't know

Speaker 121 okay

Speaker 1 It wasn't 145 that's for sure.

Speaker 195 No, no, it wasn't okay, we continue the final agreement last time the January 2020 agreement mark that was 90 pages long with annexes and definitions of things so I hate to see that go through happen again.

Speaker 195 I'd much rather see President Trump escalate and really have a superpower showdown between china and ourselves so we don't get stalled for uh for two or three more years and then have an agreement that's not honored

Speaker 114 30 percent on solar panels in 2018

Speaker 114 but it looks like there was uh two rounds of ten percent iphones didn't go up 20 this is bull crap

Speaker 150 um

Speaker 114 and by the way i've thank you for these clips i've taken the moment to take a look.

Speaker 13 There is no specific mention of electronics or iPhones.

Speaker 94 That's all Luttnick.

Speaker 73 So the interpretation of semiconductors is quite broad, according to Howard Luttnick.

Speaker 13 I think he's just throwing that out there.

Speaker 25 I don't think that's actually.

Speaker 1 Well, they're not going to, if he's just throwing it out there, means they're going to collect tariffs. I don't think they're going to collect the tariffs.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of reports now they're not collecting half the tariffs anyway.

Speaker 44 Well, there was a computer glitch the first day, the first 10 hours of shipments that came in.

Speaker 90 They didn't calculate it.

Speaker 48 There was no tariff calculation at all.

Speaker 1 Good work, everybody.

Speaker 111 By the way,

Speaker 12 a short review.

Speaker 95 I got my Light Phone 3 in, just speaking of expensive phones.

Speaker 1 And how much, what do you mean by expensive?

Speaker 95 Well, this is $500.

Speaker 135 I thought it's quite expensive.

Speaker 111 That is.

Speaker 25 But pricey.

Speaker 13 But if you want a solid phone that is small, has a long-lasting battery life, that does only the basics, and by basics I mean phone, text, calendar, camera, alarm, pictures, calculator, podcasts, directions, hotspot, and music,

Speaker 108 this is a great device.

Speaker 109 Great for the kids, I would say.

Speaker 93 Better than some wonky item.

Speaker 81 There's no internet, no browser, no apps.

Speaker 98 And John, the screen is gorgeous.

Speaker 1 It's just the

Speaker 1 O L E D?

Speaker 149 It is, yes.

Speaker 35 It's gorgeous.

Speaker 114 And so it has that paper kind of digital paper, O L E D.

Speaker 48 But when you receive or send, or you take a picture or you send or receive one through text message, it's gorgeous.

Speaker 91 It's just gorgeous.

Speaker 19 I'm doing my best, Tim Cook.

Speaker 177 It's gorgeous.

Speaker 1 It's just so gorgeous.

Speaker 20 Great phone.

Speaker 132 This has replaced my flip phone.

Speaker 1 really okay really quite outside you and leo are always into the phone thing no i'm i'm but i'm into cheap phones and cheap cheddar

Speaker 146 500 bucks is not a cheap phone it's not cheap but it's a lot cheaper than anything well for what it is i this is if i had a kid and i'm sending them to school i'd give that my kid this phone it's durable it does it does a lot of things it does it doesn't do any of the things

Speaker 1 the problem with what you just said yes is that the kids waste their time in school messaging and that thing messages. So, what's the difference?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they won't be on the browser, maybe. They won't be doom scrolling.

Speaker 1 Okay, the one advantage is they won't be doom scrolling TikTok.

Speaker 22 Yeah, or using Snapchat.

Speaker 1 But they'll be texting.

Speaker 153 Yeah, but checking their email.

Speaker 81 No, you can't check your email on it.

Speaker 19 No, well, that's a plus.

Speaker 81 No email. No, you can't check your email.

Speaker 98 You can only text.

Speaker 25 Yeah. Oh, okay.

Speaker 64 I'm just saying. It's gorgeous.

Speaker 1 It's absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, he said that.
You're like saying that you

Speaker 1 don't know why you're doing it.

Speaker 36 I don't know why you're not interested in a beautiful piece of technology.

Speaker 141 You used to be like a tech guy.

Speaker 137 You say, give me that phone.

Speaker 57 Let me change it to Korean.

Speaker 200 I mean, you know.

Speaker 1 Can you do that?

Speaker 11 Yes, of course.

Speaker 1 No, then I'd do that. Well, that would be good.

Speaker 161 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Actually, Russian's a good one. Anything.

Speaker 1 Chinese is great. Chinese is the best.

Speaker 27 It's the best.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you'll never figure out how to get out of that

Speaker 64 Okay, let's stay on the tariffs, but let's

Speaker 25 go to the EU.

Speaker 114 Well, now, before we go to the EU, this is one that has kind of an Ask John in it.

Speaker 108 This is the CEO of

Speaker 131 the big beer conglomerate who make Corona and Modelo and all those Mexican beers.

Speaker 173 He has a complaint, and I have a question about his complaint.

Speaker 1 You've spent, the company has spent billions the past few years building up their production capacity in Mexico.

Speaker 1 I believe you'll spend another, what, $2 billion building out a plant in Veracruz over the next

Speaker 1 12 months. I think this administration would say, Bill, well, why didn't Bill Millens invest those billions in the U.S.
in making beer?

Speaker 194 How come can you build a beer-making plant in the U.S.

Speaker 202 and make profitable beer doing so?

Speaker 157 I think there's a couple of things, Brian, you have to keep in mind. First of all, while we're an American company, we are invested in Mexico because we are selling authentic Mexican brands.

Speaker 157 These are not brands in the same way that you're not making champagne in the United States, or you're not making tequila in the United States, or you're not making New Zealand Salvino Blanc in the United States.

Speaker 157 We're not going to be making Mexican beer in the United States.

Speaker 98 Is that a fair comparison between champagne?

Speaker 79 I mean, is there something special about the ingredients in Mexico

Speaker 73 that this is why corona has to be made in Mexico?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Okay. There's nothing special about the ingredients at all.
It just happens to be made in Mexico. You can't sell a Mexican beer made in Palo Alto

Speaker 1 as Mexican beer.

Speaker 12 We could call it Corona.

Speaker 1 You could call it that, but then it would have to be made in Palo Alto.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 this was just technical.

Speaker 94 Right.

Speaker 173 Because champagne, you actually have to have they have a...

Speaker 1 So that's a law.

Speaker 134 That's by law.

Speaker 1 But you can make a champagne clone, and they do very, for example, in Brazil,

Speaker 1 they do it here to sparkling California wines. It used to be called champagne.
You used to sell California sparkling wines as champagne. Did we say California champagne?

Speaker 73 Yeah, then the French got all together.

Speaker 1 The French, no, they weren't putting up with that because it did because that would

Speaker 1 for good reason. Yeah.
And so, and that was an international standard.

Speaker 83 It's also

Speaker 73 the grapes from that region, just like the agave.

Speaker 1 I don't think no, the grapes from that region, the champagne can be duplicated. Although you can say, well, there's chalky soil.
You can duplicate.

Speaker 1 I've had champagne wine-style style wine made with the method champagne is the way they call it. They they

Speaker 1 made in Brazil that is the closest thing I've ever had to taste exactly like champagne.

Speaker 48 Yeah, they just can't call it champagne.

Speaker 52 Right.

Speaker 117 But I mean, I guess what I was saying is there's nothing special about, there's no law that says you can't make Corona in America and just call it Corona.

Speaker 36 Yeah, you can't say, you could say it's Mexican beer by.

Speaker 1 exact same, you should be able to make it a duplicate.

Speaker 1 You should be able to make a copy of Corona beer in Palo Alto that tastes exactly like the same, you know, Corona, which smells a little bit like pea.

Speaker 33 I was going to say, the guy is, but he's he's equating.

Speaker 1 By the way, you know, that

Speaker 1 here's the story. You know, they always say, oh, the Mexicans are peeing in it.
That was the reason it was smelled like pee. But

Speaker 1 I was at a Safeway or lucky, one of these big

Speaker 1 grocery stores, they had a big pile of Corona that somebody had knocked over the whole thing. And so there was like, I'd say, 50 broken bottles of Corona on the floor.

Speaker 1 They were mopping up, and it smelled just like a pea, like you were

Speaker 1 in an outhouse. It just smelled terrible.
It's a terrible smelling beer.

Speaker 139 Well, this is a tremendous opportunity.

Speaker 150 We have a lot of beer makers in America.

Speaker 13 We have a lot of beer makers in our audience.

Speaker 115 I think

Speaker 73 we should start making a new brand, Karuna.

Speaker 25 Karuna, made in Palo Alto.

Speaker 142 It doesn't seem to be hard to make.

Speaker 25 It shouldn't be.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 you have to know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 Making beers. We had a guy

Speaker 1 whose name was Brewer at Movio, who was a beer maker.

Speaker 1 I thought his name was, he had to become a, I think he became one. He worked in some worm.

Speaker 1 But he would, his beers were,

Speaker 1 I know a lot of people that make homemade beer,

Speaker 1 and it's just, it's not as easy. I mean, sometimes some, there's always a guy out there that seems to be able to have the touch, but there's still some magic to it.

Speaker 73 It's amazing.

Speaker 124 We had no agenda beer at one point.

Speaker 1 You remember? Yes, it was out of New Zealand.

Speaker 99 It was good, too.

Speaker 1 It was very good. I don't know what happened to those guys.

Speaker 1 They visited here. I met with them.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 They brought a bunch of weird no-agenda beer, and they had some other beers that had ITM and stuff written on it.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 1 33. And I heard us say something, I guess, against

Speaker 1 Suzy or whatever the hell her name is.

Speaker 151 And they went away.

Speaker 95 Although noagendabir.com still forwards to noagendashow.net.

Speaker 49 How about that?

Speaker 27 So that's still alive.

Speaker 20 That's still alive.

Speaker 62 Okay.

Speaker 125 Well, thank you for explaining that.

Speaker 111 The

Speaker 112 metaude champonnois.

Speaker 22 But here's what our European Union allies are doing, the traitors.

Speaker 190 The European Union has temporarily posed its counter-tariffs against the United States to further pursue talks with Donald Trump's administration on how to resolve what was shaping up to be an all-out trade war.

Speaker 190 According to the President of the EU Commission, Oslo von der Leyen, the suspension will remain in place for at least 90 days.

Speaker 190 The counter-tariffs imposed in reaction to Trump's duties on steel and aluminium were approved on Wednesday by member states, targeting almost 21 billion euros in American products.

Speaker 190 The first draft, worth 3.9 billion Euros, was scheduled to go into effect on the 15th of April before the change.

Speaker 190 The EU bloc had initially been hit by a twenty percent rate under Trump's sweeping tariffs, shocking Brussels and other capitals.

Speaker 190 The EU Commission, which has exclusive competence to determine the commercial policy for the twenty seven member bloc, has been trying to figure out how to respond to Washington's trade tariffs.

Speaker 173 So they're going to team up with the Chinese, huh?

Speaker 3 Hmm.

Speaker 49 See how that goes for you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it won't work out.

Speaker 94 Don't touch China.

Speaker 1 I think the

Speaker 1 China going to the South, going to South America and Africa, they've already done Africa.

Speaker 73 Moving everything.

Speaker 1 It's not going to work out for them either. No.

Speaker 25 Oh, before I forget.

Speaker 125 Opportunity knocks.

Speaker 107 Just because we're talking about

Speaker 177 phones and everything.

Speaker 25 Recall our hollow book idea.

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 108 The hollow book idea is

Speaker 31 the cover of the book. Help me out here.

Speaker 23 The book would say,

Speaker 22 I'm paraphrasing, this book will help you

Speaker 73 get off of your smartphone addiction.

Speaker 64 We need a snappier title, but

Speaker 83 did we have a snappy title for that?

Speaker 1 We don't have a snappy title, no.

Speaker 95 So

Speaker 98 at church this morning,

Speaker 139 one of the singers came up to me me and said, I was listening to your show.

Speaker 136 I like that.

Speaker 23 And she said, Hobby Lobby

Speaker 31 has a $7 hollow book

Speaker 135 ready for just a cover.

Speaker 13 You put a jacket on that thing, boom, good to go.

Speaker 31 Hollow book,

Speaker 1 just a. Seven bucks is too high.

Speaker 84 You could sell this book with a cover on it for $25.

Speaker 113 You're just making up reasons to not do this.

Speaker 23 I love this idea.

Speaker 12 Yeah, you do. And your phone goes, and so all we have to do is print up the cover.

Speaker 118 So why is that too high?

Speaker 104 People will buy a premium product from the No Agenda Show.

Speaker 22 And what is really the premium part is our cover.

Speaker 188 That's really what it's about.

Speaker 108 You still put yourself in the middle.

Speaker 1 Well, let's design a cover and

Speaker 1 we'll have a competition.

Speaker 36 Wow, the enthusiasm you are exuding is just beyond belief.

Speaker 14 I'm excited about this idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know you are, but you're the one that still uses a phone. I have one in the drawer.

Speaker 89 I'll put mine in the book.

Speaker 84 You make it?

Speaker 118 I'll put it in the book.

Speaker 1 I think you're underestimating the addictive nature. Yeah, I think we could sell a few gimmick books.
I'm not saying

Speaker 179 you said earlier that this could sell like 20,000 units is what you're saying.

Speaker 1 20,000 is I readjusted my thinking to 1,000.

Speaker 1 Maybe. And it's only still as a gimmick,

Speaker 1 as a Christmas gift, a goof. Because nobody, the more we play these clips and the more I listen to you go on about a $500 phone that does text, I'm thinking that

Speaker 1 this is done. It's over.

Speaker 1 Society is ruined by these things. And you're not going to, it's wishful thinking on your part.

Speaker 17 Putting the kill in buzzkill, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 94 I would give up my phone for this, for this.

Speaker 141 No, you wouldn't.

Speaker 25 Yes, I would.

Speaker 12 I don't care about the phone.

Speaker 20 Look, just because you're so awesome, I got the phone in the drawer.

Speaker 201 Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying I'm awesome.

Speaker 1 I am an outlier. Yes.

Speaker 1 Minimum. Yes.

Speaker 88 And that's my point.

Speaker 22 This is a real, there's a real

Speaker 113 crisis of people using these smartphones.

Speaker 94 And this book will be great.

Speaker 57 People can put it in there and they will think of us and

Speaker 112 they will stop using their phone.

Speaker 51 And a thousand units.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's what it takes.

Speaker 29 Listen. That's all it takes.

Speaker 1 Listen to stop using your phone.

Speaker 83 Listen, it's a great idea.

Speaker 88 It's a fun gift.

Speaker 83 I think it's got legs.

Speaker 1 We have another guy sent us another company that looks promising that can make the whole thing.

Speaker 87 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 79 No, someone has to make the whole package.

Speaker 144 You'll never do it.

Speaker 95 Think about the microphone company, how well we'd be doing with that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'd be broke right now because of the tariffs.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I saw that coming.

Speaker 25 We would have had our whole shipment in.

Speaker 95 We would have had a warehouse full of Curry One microphones and tons of potential podcasts.

Speaker 25 Time is right.

Speaker 1 Don't worry. We'll get that done.
That'll be done.

Speaker 128 Yeah, four more years. Okay.

Speaker 128 All right.

Speaker 1 All right. What else we got?

Speaker 20 Well, there's a lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 1 I have a lot of TikTok clips. Oh, please.

Speaker 12 I can't handle it.

Speaker 1 Oh, by the way, I wanted to play one of them right off the bat. The rest of them we can do later.

Speaker 27 Thank God.

Speaker 1 But since this came up kind of in the conversation, what is this? Play this April 20th TikTok clip.

Speaker 45 If Trump declares martial law on April 20th, which is the rumor, we're in deep doo-doo.

Speaker 205 I'm terrified. This is absolutely terrifying as a woman, as an American.

Speaker 43 Is this the handmaid's deal?

Speaker 205 This martial law would surpass all police.

Speaker 205 How terrifying?

Speaker 69 Like, what do I need to do as a woman to prepare?

Speaker 26 Help me.

Speaker 205 Help me, help others.

Speaker 60 I'm so freaking nervous. I hate him.

Speaker 205 I hate the orange clown.

Speaker 21 Wow. So, this is

Speaker 57 a follow-on to the delusional dem I had on the last show.

Speaker 141 Yeah. Who said that

Speaker 129 President Trump is going to declare martial law

Speaker 137 on April 20th?

Speaker 1 Yeah, 4.20 Easter.

Speaker 159 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that makes nothing but sense. You're going to declare martial law on Easter Sunday.
I don't think so.

Speaker 152 For some reason, this is going to create a handmaid's tale situation.

Speaker 34 I don't know what it's creating it.

Speaker 1 This is one of many of these clips. I didn't collect a bunch of them.
I got that one. But you had one.
That's why I didn't, you know, you'd be bothered.

Speaker 1 Where is this rumor coming from and why is it becoming popular?

Speaker 85 Well, it's like quantum dots.

Speaker 25 Grid going down.

Speaker 1 Grid going down. It's exactly the same.

Speaker 83 This is coming from people who don't have a hollow book to put their phone in.

Speaker 80 That's where this is coming from.

Speaker 94 I have a follow-on clip, though.

Speaker 14 Speaking of handmade tail.

Speaker 59 Tonight, this message is gaining steam.

Speaker 206 So let me say very simply, I want more babies in the United States of America.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 9 You're going to be the handmade tail.

Speaker 167 We're going to make you have babies, make you into baby machines.

Speaker 41 Well, it's led to what's called the pro-natalist movement.

Speaker 59 And it's getting more popular because of messages from Vice President Vance and Elon Musk, who, of course, has at least 13 children with multiple women.

Speaker 59 San Annasmina Derson is out front at the 2015.

Speaker 105 No, no, he has a new one.

Speaker 19 He's got a new one.

Speaker 1 I don't think that one's real.

Speaker 76 It's just a fake baby.

Speaker 59 With multiple women.

Speaker 67 San Annasmina Durson is out front at the 2025 Natal Conference.

Speaker 59 Because yes, there is a conference. There's a conference.

Speaker 163 Raise your hand if you are a mom or a dad in the room here tonight. This is the war for civilization, and we are going to win win it one life at a time.

Speaker 208 We're here at NatalCon, which is a gathering of about 200 people from all over the world who have come here because they all feel very strongly that the world needs more babies.

Speaker 190 There's a civilizational catastrophe coming and the way to solve it is to have sex.

Speaker 69 Like that's got to be the easiest pitch in history.

Speaker 208 Birth rates around the world are flimming and they think this is the issue of our time.

Speaker 41 It's a massive

Speaker 162 conversation and that's why we're here.

Speaker 209 We need to encourage more people to get married and have kids we need those people to be the people of the future many countries are no longer having enough kids to replace their populations some experts predict this will cause labor shortages and inflation permanently changing the economy the people most passionate about this call themselves pronatalists pronatalists you go so there so we had a table conversation over at dinner yeah and jc has to claims he's got some documentation for this and i think he does

Speaker 1 it seems as though the popular, when we went to a negative birth rate, and it may be a socialist thing that's taken place, and it goes right back to Hollywood.

Speaker 1 When TV shows had kids on the TV shows, and there was kids around, and family shows that showed a lot of children to the public, we had a higher birth rate. Oh, no doubt.

Speaker 1 The TV, yes, no doubt. I mean, it makes sense.
As soon as you say it, it sounds, oh, yeah, that makes sense because you're seeing examples.

Speaker 1 You know, you had your Ozzie and Harriet, you had your

Speaker 1 Father Knows Best, you had the Donna Reacher, you had all these

Speaker 1 Brady,

Speaker 1 good, very good example.

Speaker 1 So you had all these shows with kids and, you know, the humor that kids provide, and it's good television. And that's very slowly evolved into no kids on any shows.

Speaker 36 And you remember we had America's Funniest Home Videos Kids?

Speaker 25 Right.

Speaker 85 I think a lot of people, oh, look at those cute kids doing stupid, funny stuff.

Speaker 19 I want one of those.

Speaker 95 But no, no, instead we got Modern Family.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Modern Family.

Speaker 1 Run by that guy Zucker, the one of the producers of that show, the major, major, major Trump hater.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, this is.

Speaker 1 And anti-American. I think the anti-Americanism is stemming right out of Hollywood.

Speaker 46 Sure.

Speaker 1 And it's trying to

Speaker 1 kill the culture. Let's just say, no more kids.
let's just let us all die off, and that'll be the end of it, and we'll be all good to go.

Speaker 163 Yeah,

Speaker 63 yay,

Speaker 17 woo!

Speaker 1 That sounds groovy, so it wouldn't take that much to crank it up, crank the key.

Speaker 1 You know, these bull crap, you have to have the vice president telling people to have kids, nobody's going to listen to that. But if they saw it, you have to see it, yeah,

Speaker 52 yeah.

Speaker 64 Well, but, but is Hollywood isn't uh

Speaker 137 is Hollywood isn't even Hollywood anymore. I mean, the people are watching the movies on Netflix, and from what I can tell,

Speaker 107 it's all either outer space or Marvel.

Speaker 79 Armageddon.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 A lot of Armageddon, the end-of-the-world stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, it's creating a...

Speaker 1 That's the problem. The culture generation that goes on from the Hollywood...
I'm just using Hollywood as a generic term because you're right. There's no Hollywood anymore.

Speaker 153 No.

Speaker 1 But that process is ruining the country.

Speaker 14 Where should we shot?

Speaker 21 Where's Shirley Temple?

Speaker 105 We need a new Shirley Temple.

Speaker 1 We need guys like Brunetti actually doing some work against him.

Speaker 20 Oh, please.

Speaker 72 No,

Speaker 80 he got his money.

Speaker 73 He's like, I got my money. I got my cyber truck.
I love my truck.

Speaker 29 I got my truck. I love what I do.

Speaker 73 I got my fire truck.

Speaker 105 I'd be sitting there waiting for Scaramonga to create a whole movie with AI.

Speaker 144 You know, Brunetti should be ashamed of himself.

Speaker 83 He took the best of this country.

Speaker 90 This country gave him enormous opportunity, enabled him to make incredible amounts of money off of the House of Cards and 50 Shades of Gray.

Speaker 178 How about 50 Kids from Dorian Gray?

Speaker 137 I mean, just do something.

Speaker 142 Do something to help America.

Speaker 112 I'm just trying to come up with something.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you keep him down.

Speaker 211 Yeah, thanks.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 10 No,

Speaker 21 it's actually despicable.

Speaker 25 It really is.

Speaker 1 I'll take his side because he says it's not possible because he says it's gone so far left,

Speaker 1 you can't get a word in edgewise. You can't do it.

Speaker 1 If you're a conservative producer in Hollywood, you just

Speaker 1 can't get it done.

Speaker 144 There is an incredible

Speaker 65 surge.

Speaker 1 Oh, never mind. Sorry, I brought it up.

Speaker 98 You know where it's coming from.

Speaker 101 There is a surge in Christian movies,

Speaker 25 feel-good movies.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Do they involve a lot of kids?

Speaker 159 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've tried to watch one of these movies. It's just a bunch of,

Speaker 1 you know, no.

Speaker 63 It involves

Speaker 1 slavery. And

Speaker 1 Jesus is horrible material.

Speaker 9 That's from Hollywood.

Speaker 75 But you need to look at Pure Flicks.

Speaker 113 Get Pure Flicks on your smart TV.

Speaker 83 It's nothing but happy-go-lucky movies.

Speaker 90 Marky Mark is making movies with his kids.

Speaker 74 It's great.

Speaker 1 It's got to go into pop culture. It's got to get on the television.

Speaker 73 There is no pop culture anymore.

Speaker 1 The numbers are still there. 10 million people watch a show on TV.

Speaker 1 It's over unless these guys get on board. And they're not going to get on board because they've all become communists.

Speaker 25 Well, okay.

Speaker 77 Well, two more years, everybody.

Speaker 25 It's all over.

Speaker 83 We're done.

Speaker 179 We're toast.

Speaker 84 We're cooked.

Speaker 198 Not quite as bad.

Speaker 115 Oh, by the way, what should we do here?

Speaker 57 I got a number of funny things.

Speaker 49 Well, here's a good start.

Speaker 23 I thought this was a very good start.

Speaker 119 Where is it here?

Speaker 73 of changing the culture.

Speaker 100 And

Speaker 27 where is it?

Speaker 52 Here we go.

Speaker 81 This is Gail King.

Speaker 97 Gail King. We all know Gail King.

Speaker 1 Oprah's best. She's being launched into space.

Speaker 83 Yes, it's a good start.

Speaker 25 In Blue Origins. By the way,

Speaker 1 she is scared to death. She's the only one that

Speaker 1 has trepidation about this trip. We're talking about this at the dinner table, too.
We think this is just a

Speaker 1 kill shot.

Speaker 174 In Blue Origins Training Capsule, CBS's Gail King got a sense of tomorrow's thrill ride, a trip 62 miles straight up to the edge edge of space.

Speaker 172 And I realize this is so much bigger than just a fun trip. What it represents to young women, to girls, what they're trying to do on space in terms of, you know, looking at the planet in another way.

Speaker 174 Space tourism civilian astronauts took off four years ago.

Speaker 174 Three space companies, Blue Origin, Virgin Galactic, and SpaceX, have rocketed more than 120 people into space, including billionaire Jeff Bezos, Blue Origin's founder in 2021.

Speaker 144 Did this moment motivate you to push deeper into the cosmos?

Speaker 19 Hell yes.

Speaker 143 Yeah, absolutely. No doubt.
We have to build a road to space. This sub-world tourism mission is about practicing.

Speaker 3 What are we doing? We're on space.

Speaker 89 Are we running space?

Speaker 174 Bezos's fiancé, Lauren Sanchez, put together Monday's all-female crew.

Speaker 174 Six accomplished women, including King, hop star Katy Perry, two scientists, and a filmmaker.

Speaker 81 A good start.

Speaker 174 Their 11-minute round-trip adventure will include roughly three minutes of weightlessness, floating in the capsule, looking out a window onto the world below. CBS News space analyst Bill Harwood.

Speaker 212 It's something we all marvel at, but I think getting from there to the point where the average person can do this is decades away, if not longer.

Speaker 105 Liftoff will happen here in West Texas from a launch pad on a mammoth ranch owned by Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 170 Gail admits she's both excited and terrified.

Speaker 93 Now,

Speaker 25 the odds are

Speaker 90 they've had 150 of these launches.

Speaker 98 One of these has to go wrong with some celebrities.

Speaker 18 And I don't, I wish no ill on anybody.

Speaker 1 No, I don't wish ill on anybody, but Katy Perry's probably

Speaker 52 one of them.

Speaker 62 Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 We were talking about Satanism earlier.

Speaker 14 How is this a big deal?

Speaker 80 Didn't we land on the moon in 1969 when I was five years old?

Speaker 50 How is this a big deal? Woo!

Speaker 113 Gail King's going up in space, going to be weightless for three minutes.

Speaker 1 It's just going to go up and down. It's just an up and down thing.

Speaker 1 I don't even, I mean, what's overlooked is nobody wants to talk about it, or I don't know why they haven't talked about it, but SpaceX took a bunch of amateurs and sent them over the North and South Poles and four complete orbits around the planet to do actual work up there and landed safely.

Speaker 1 Hello, it's Elon.

Speaker 13 Hello. Did he have to go?

Speaker 1 He has Elon. So forget that.
So instead, we're going to talk about the blue rocket.

Speaker 84 He didn't have Katy Perry.

Speaker 73 And regarding Kill Shot, I mean, if I was conspiratorial in nature, I'd think Bezos is like, hey, Sanchez, we've had a good run, baby.

Speaker 76 Get on this rocket.

Speaker 85 Get on this rocket, honey.

Speaker 26 I know. That's what everybody's thinking.

Speaker 10 It's horrible.

Speaker 1 It's not like a morbid thought on your part or mine. I'm not the only one thinking this.
Everybody is thinking this.

Speaker 57 All right. I'm not the only one thinking this.

Speaker 125 Okay.

Speaker 1 I don't,

Speaker 1 everyone at the dinner table, everyone was over on Friday.

Speaker 12 Celebrating your birthday two weeks late?

Speaker 1 Yes. That's still coming.
And so

Speaker 1 that came up in the conversation, and everybody felt the same way that this is a kill shot. Get rid of Sanchez.
I mean, it's a sick thought. What's wrong with the public today?

Speaker 14 It's very sad.

Speaker 1 They're a very cynical group of people, the public in general. Yes.

Speaker 64 You know why? It's because they don't have a book to put their cell phone in.

Speaker 74 That is the problem right there.

Speaker 12 They need a book.

Speaker 134 Oh, hey, Friday, I saw the oil baron.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes. How did he, what's he have to say?

Speaker 81 Well, first of all, you know,

Speaker 81 I get a lot of emails.

Speaker 7 Oh, the oil baron was right.

Speaker 17 You know, oil is down.

Speaker 25 Everyone's pissed off.

Speaker 12 So his partners in the business and people he knows,

Speaker 151 they're all like, I never should have voted for Trump.

Speaker 64 Like, did they not hear him say drill, baby, drill, which they knew they weren't going to do?

Speaker 152 You know, didn't he understand when President Trump said, I'm going to bring down energy costs?

Speaker 20 Did they think that wouldn't be them?

Speaker 1 So they voted for him knowing that he said that. Now they're bitching.

Speaker 92 Big time.

Speaker 20 They literally like,

Speaker 129 I can't believe this guy's no good. He

Speaker 20 never would have voted for him.

Speaker 19 Okay.

Speaker 113 And it's true. Democrat presidents are always better for the oil business.

Speaker 25 So I said, where are you at, brother?

Speaker 54 First of all, I said,

Speaker 105 would you like a sandwich?

Speaker 25 Because I know you're so broke.

Speaker 79 Would you like a sandwich, oil baron? I know you're so broke.

Speaker 130 So what do you think the number is that they, the bottom line number they can go per barrel?

Speaker 169 Because I have the number.

Speaker 1 How low they can go before they start losing money? Is that what the question is?

Speaker 14 Yes, that's the question. Go.

Speaker 1 Well, in Saudi Arabia, I know the number to be $25 a barrel. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The American number, I'm guessing, is 45.

Speaker 78 Bam, on the money.

Speaker 103 Now, he says

Speaker 73 $45 we can do, but that's because he says we're hedged at 80%.

Speaker 154 He says, if that happens, there's a whole bunch of other oil companies that will go under because they're hedged at under 50%.

Speaker 117 But he said, but that'll be great because we can buy them on the cheap.

Speaker 107 And he did say again, he says, we're pumping out less oil per these wells, but we're real heavy on gas.

Speaker 114 He says a lot of gas coming out.

Speaker 137 It's all fracking.

Speaker 57 It's all Permian Basin.

Speaker 16 He says there's a lot of gas coming out.

Speaker 93 So the one thing they really, really want from the president is transportation.

Speaker 112 They want pipelines.

Speaker 114 They want pipelines to send this stuff out to the port.

Speaker 164 They want the LNG stuff to be ramped up.

Speaker 150 He says, if we can get that, we'll be really happy.

Speaker 105 And that makes sense.

Speaker 94 I mean, we need natural gas is super abundant and cheap, and we can use it for all kinds of groovy stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, use it to run power plants.

Speaker 15 Yes, as just as an example.

Speaker 129 Speaking of,

Speaker 108 this was great.

Speaker 117 Franz Van Cartre, France 24, discussed a very big report that has been done now about AI and claims that it is accelerating climate change.

Speaker 214 One concern around artificial intelligence is its voracious appetite for energy.

Speaker 214 Electricity demand for AI-focused data centers will quadruple in the next five years, at least according to a report from the International Energy Agency.

Speaker 214 But the report also calls claims that AI is accelerating climate change overstated. Tech editor Peter O'Brien has been looking through all of this.

Speaker 214 Now, there's still quite a bit of uncertainty then about the future of energy and AI.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's right, Erin. I've been looking through this

Speaker 6 chunk here, and

Speaker 6 basically, the takeaway is that yes, energy demand from AI is obviously going to increase significantly as we continue to use it, but there are uncertainties, particularly around emissions.

Speaker 6 Is AI going to devour so much oil, well, rather, gas and

Speaker 6 coal that it's disastrous for our planet? Is it going to actually increase efficiencies and spur innovations that allow us to reduce emissions? Or is it going to fall somewhere in between?

Speaker 6 And who better to talk about it than Thomas Spencer, who co-wrote the report. Thanks for being here on Tech 24.

Speaker 6 And why did you think it was so important to bring quite close to the front of the report that these claims that AI is accelerating climate change could be overstated?

Speaker 215 Well, in the public debate, you see two positions being taken, and they're quite different.

Speaker 215 The first one is that AI, because of the technology innovation that it can bring, can, you know, in simple terms, solve climate change.

Speaker 215 And the second is a more alarmist position that AI, because of the acceleration in energy consumption, is going to dramatically accelerate climate change.

Speaker 209 Due to climate change.

Speaker 118 So I got a hold of this whole report.

Speaker 85 I take a look at it.

Speaker 109 I have a conclusion here.

Speaker 95 This is an 11-minute report.

Speaker 47 I have a 37-second conclusion.

Speaker 83 What word was not in the report?

Speaker 1 What word was not in the report?

Speaker 1 I have no idea.

Speaker 159 Nuclear!

Speaker 25 Oh, not in the report.

Speaker 215 And when we looked very carefully at the data, when we looked at the numbers,

Speaker 215 when we did our analysis, we found that neither position was really justified. What is important is that AI is a tool.
Like any other tool, it's up to us how we use it.

Speaker 215 It can help us on many climate problems, for example, integrating more renewables into our electricity systems.

Speaker 93 Okay, so AI is going to help us with climate change by integrating more renewables into our systems, huh?

Speaker 215 But at the same time, we need to manage the electricity consumption growth that we are already seeing today.

Speaker 215 And so we wanted just to, let's say, do a bit of myth-busting with regard to these two diametrically opposed viewpoints that you hear in the public debate.

Speaker 19 Yeah, there's no conclusion.

Speaker 120 The whole thing is stupid.

Speaker 183 But it does give me the opportunity.

Speaker 21 It does give me the opportunity.

Speaker 25 I believe that.

Speaker 98 To ask you why you had not responded to my annual artificial intelligence test.

Speaker 115 I sent you an email about it.

Speaker 20 Yes, I sent you an email about it.

Speaker 1 I didn't see it.

Speaker 73 So you remember the manus.im

Speaker 35 agentic AI that I was testing?

Speaker 1 Oh, yet. No, I did see the email.

Speaker 25 I took a look at it.

Speaker 12 Let me set it up. Let me set it up.

Speaker 90 So I asked Manus.im,

Speaker 152 please find for me,

Speaker 33 this is the Turing test of artificial intelligence.

Speaker 73 It is developed by John C.

Speaker 135 Dvorak.

Speaker 99 It is the AI Turing test.

Speaker 164 The modern AI Turing test.

Speaker 95 Said, please compile and determine for John C.

Speaker 135 Dvorak, known columnist, host of the co-host of the No Agenda podcast, a known technology expert, please compile and determine the best weed whacker available on the market today.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 95 And it made a nice little website for you.

Speaker 1 I saw all of that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What did you say? You didn't come up with the right answer? I have no clue. I don't believe it.

Speaker 111 You don't believe it. Hmm.

Speaker 11 I thought it was.

Speaker 83 You know what I thought?

Speaker 125 Because it said the ego power plus power load with line IQ ST1623T as the best one.

Speaker 98 But I liked, I think this is what AI constantly does: it packages this in a parlor trick because I just asked for the best weed whacker.

Speaker 144 I'm going to put this in the troll room so they can take a look at it.

Speaker 86 Yeah, you should.

Speaker 84 And it created an entire website with an introduction.

Speaker 29 I know it just gave me a lot of things.

Speaker 102 Research methodology.

Speaker 139 No, it's parlor tricks.

Speaker 1 It's like a little kid who's, you know, knows this one thing and he has to tell everybody.

Speaker 113 And it said the best weed whacker of 2025, a comprehensive analysis that even John C.

Speaker 116 Dvorak would approve.

Speaker 50 Well, you didn't.

Speaker 78 You did not approve it.

Speaker 2 I didn't. You're right.

Speaker 18 And why not?

Speaker 131 Did you just think?

Speaker 139 Do you think it was...

Speaker 98 Did you not like the side-by-side analysis and its determination?

Speaker 1 No, i didn't i haven't given it a good what it is is i have not sat down and actually

Speaker 1 exit i saw this this monstrosity that you created

Speaker 53 i saw it i didn't create it jesus you have to be in the mood

Speaker 1 to even approach this

Speaker 113 by the way by the way it took one hour and 12 minutes for this yeah i saw that that part i did see you noted i'm thinking why did it take so long and ten dollars in credits why did you have to pay for it it's credits because because this is what ai costs and telling you this you can even watch the screens as it as it starts up web browsers and you can watch it go and and it's scanning all these things it's doing all these searches this is a completely ridiculous abuse of the so-called artificial intelligence because Nobody is going to be happy with this.

Speaker 94 Nobody who just wants to know what the best weed whacker is is going to wait an hour and 12 minutes for the thing to finish and pay almost 10 bucks to get this website out of it.

Speaker 79 That is not a consumer product.

Speaker 79 I just, I don't believe people are going to be all super wowed.

Speaker 85 I like it.

Speaker 25 It's cool.

Speaker 1 And for 10 bucks, it's not.

Speaker 139 I didn't need the website, but it did that for me, probably just to jack up the cost.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's padding its bill.

Speaker 20 Yes, it's patting the bill.

Speaker 52 Yes.

Speaker 142 Well, it says that's the definitive choice.

Speaker 81 It may be true, but I don't know.

Speaker 63 Yeah, it might be.

Speaker 14 I don't know. I just thought, wow,

Speaker 135 that's that the hype about agentic AI?

Speaker 15 I'll wait for quantum.

Speaker 1 Boy, you'll be waiting forever. Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, I find it useful. I use it for background searches.
I tell people to,

Speaker 1 and there's two or three of these systems. They all work pretty well.

Speaker 1 You have to double-check them because they get carried away and they're all verbose, which is the real annoying part about it. They can't seem to get out of that mode.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I think it's still a replacement for Google.

Speaker 117 I love the trolls.

Speaker 116 Like, hey, they're already looking at the source code.

Speaker 99 Hey, there's Chinese in the JavaScript.

Speaker 36 I know those guys. Who knows what they're doing?

Speaker 99 Who knows?

Speaker 73 Probably injected something into my browser.

Speaker 20 Wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 Wouldn't surprise me. Run Spy Hunter 5.

Speaker 169 But

Speaker 144 you will admit that if you really had to pay for the compute, the compute that it's using, you wouldn't use it for handy backup.

Speaker 1 Every time you turn it around, you got to drop $10.

Speaker 19 Forget it.

Speaker 13 And take an hour and 12 minutes.

Speaker 90 And now, you know, Google, they just

Speaker 95 are starting to show their AI results and they're embedding that more and more.

Speaker 1 Oh, they're no good.

Speaker 99 But it's even worse because people who count on SEO for Google juice or their websites, when you get the answers, it has links, but it just has links to more stuff.

Speaker 23 Inside Google, it doesn't take, it doesn't give you an answer and take it,

Speaker 128 they bring you right back to Google with more search results.

Speaker 73 It's putting another barrier in between people who want their website found through Google and them finding it.

Speaker 25 That's ruining a lot of people.

Speaker 1 SEO is going to be a real challenge in the next few years. Yes.

Speaker 199 Yes.

Speaker 1 And it's not even going to be important per se.

Speaker 1 It's going to have to be AI optimizations somehow. I don't know how you even manage to do that.

Speaker 125 It's all so lame.

Speaker 217 What it does really great is it does bad country songs.

Speaker 36 Please don't send end-of-show mixes that you made with AI, please.

Speaker 182 Please don't.

Speaker 20 It's so hard. It's like the end.

Speaker 167 Look, I made this great English ship.

Speaker 64 Yeah, you wrote some cool cool lyrics, I agree, but it's just so bland.

Speaker 199 And so,

Speaker 164 you know, it's not.

Speaker 15 I was listening to, what's his name?

Speaker 142 Douglas Rushkoff, Rushkoff, who's that guy?

Speaker 56 The old Silicon Valley hippie guy who writes about the humans versus the tech, the tech titans.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 20 What's his name again?

Speaker 15 Douglas Rushkoff?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Rushikov.
I

Speaker 1 can't remember his last name.

Speaker 93 Well, do you know?

Speaker 93 Do you know him?

Speaker 1 No. Never met him.

Speaker 199 Well, then, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 23 This is a story about Millé from Argentina, who surprisingly,

Speaker 128 I wasn't expecting them to see him do this.

Speaker 124 He made a deal with the IMF.

Speaker 144 I thought he was against all that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's also doing deals with China.

Speaker 133 I had a thought when I heard this report, and let's see if you can get into this thought with me.

Speaker 194 The libertarian government of Argentine President Javier Millé announced libertarian.

Speaker 102 Hold on a minute.

Speaker 25 No, libertarian.

Speaker 83 Isn't that interesting?

Speaker 1 How come it's not far right?

Speaker 23 Because they buckled.

Speaker 25 They're going for who I am.

Speaker 1 Who is this report from?

Speaker 218 This is from

Speaker 137 Franz Van Cartre.

Speaker 1 By the way.

Speaker 90 Libertarian taking a bailout from the IMF?

Speaker 169 I don't think so. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 62 Huh?

Speaker 1 No, it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 87 It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 194 The libertarian government of Argentine President Javier Millé announced on Friday that it plans to lift most of the country's strict capital and currency controls.

Speaker 194 The high-stakes gamble has been made possible by a new $20 billion bailout loan approved by the International Monetary Fund, which has offered a lifeline to Argentina's dangerously depleting foreign currency reserves.

Speaker 194 Millay said the loan will place Argentina in a better position to face global economic instability.

Speaker 202 This new fiscal, monetary, and exchange reality means two things for the country.

Speaker 137 On the one hand, from now on, there will be no reason why Argentina has self-inflicted turbulences.

Speaker 202 On the other hand, we're we're in better conditions than ever to resist external turbulences.

Speaker 202 Never has Argentina been better equipped in its economic foundations to resist tensions from the global economy.

Speaker 194 Starting Monday, Argentina's central bank will undo its fixed currency peg to the dollar, letting the Argentine peso freely fluctuate within limits.

Speaker 194 From this year, companies will also be able to repatriate profits out of the country, a key demand from businesses that could unlock more international investment.

Speaker 194 The move is high risk, as there's pent-up demand for foreign currency.

Speaker 194 If there is not enough cash in the central bank, capital flight could imperil Malay's primary accomplishment of having lowered inflation during the past 15 months.

Speaker 46 So I was thinking about this.

Speaker 131 They're going to let it float free.

Speaker 14 What could possibly go wrong with that?

Speaker 36 I don't think the peso is

Speaker 131 going to be very

Speaker 109 competitive.

Speaker 1 Well, every time it floats free, it starts to go into

Speaker 1 inflationary mode.

Speaker 136 But the whole part about they want money to be able to come in and go out, wouldn't this be the perfect country to launch the stable coin?

Speaker 103 They're already using it.

Speaker 18 A lot of people in Argentina are using stablecoin and commerce on a daily basis.

Speaker 49 I think we had a report about that a while back.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 109 But this may be a what a great country to launch it in.

Speaker 36 Here you go. Here's a bunch of our stablecoin.

Speaker 1 I have no idea. Okay.

Speaker 116 Speaking of libertarians,

Speaker 73 you probably didn't see this.

Speaker 110 I actually listened to the whole thing,

Speaker 144 and it was Douglas Murray,

Speaker 218 who doesn't know him, went on Rogan to have some kind of a debate with Dave Smith.

Speaker 203 You know Dave Smith?

Speaker 1 I know Dave Smith. I don't know Dave Smith.
Right.

Speaker 133 Dave Smith is the guy who got all angry at us.

Speaker 1 Remember?

Speaker 1 I can't remember that story. Tell me again.
Well, there were two reasons.

Speaker 132 One, because we didn't remember who Scott Horton was.

Speaker 133 And two, because we made fun of libertarians.

Speaker 135 And I think I said, I'll take that.

Speaker 116 I said, well, they're kind of just Republicans who don't want to say it.

Speaker 93 And then, and a lot of people in

Speaker 167 Gitmo Nation, you don't know what libertarianism.

Speaker 81 Don't you draw on Tom Wood Show all the time?

Speaker 130 Don't you know what libertarians are?

Speaker 25 Libertarians.

Speaker 1 I have to say I was a libertarian or self-proclaimed because there's no such thing as a libertarian in my opinion. But I was a self-proclaimed libertarian until I realized that there's no such thing.

Speaker 25 Well, what was bullcrap?

Speaker 12 What was interesting

Speaker 126 is

Speaker 56 my cousin, I think at one point said, you know, she just didn't want to believe that I wasn't all in on Obama at the time.

Speaker 64 She says, well, you're not really a Republican, right?

Speaker 109 You're a libertarian.

Speaker 19 I'm like, no, I'm not any of that stuff.

Speaker 169 I'm not, I'm not a part of any club.

Speaker 36 I'm just me. I have my own ideas.

Speaker 65 But it's kind of a thing that people will put on you just to, just to like, I want to like Adam.

Speaker 108 Just say you're a libertarian.

Speaker 52 Then it's okay.

Speaker 73 You can vote for Trump, but just say you're a libertarian.

Speaker 81 And so, in this, now,

Speaker 108 and I'll tell you why he was there.

Speaker 44 These big podcasts, they're starting to go nuts.

Speaker 111 I mean, who wants this?

Speaker 184 Who wants three?

Speaker 130 Well, you should debate, you should debate Dave Smith, you, Douglas Murray, on Joe Rogan's show.

Speaker 81 And, you know, Joe almost didn't say anything throughout the whole show.

Speaker 83 It was all Dave Smith.

Speaker 85 Yak, yak, yak, yak, yak.

Speaker 97 So the guy who got so mad at us for talking about libertarians, he let this one slide, but I thought this was a dynamite description of libertarians by Douglas Murray.

Speaker 221 Let's have a bit of hygiene on our own side, not lift every sewer gate.

Speaker 125 And when you say our own side, you mean the right wing, broadly speaking?

Speaker 221 Broadly speaking, and I'm sort of funny about libertarians. I'm never quite sure.
I always think, yeah, I always say, I think libertarians are essentially the bisexuals of politics.

Speaker 29 They should just choose, Joe.

Speaker 161 They should choose.

Speaker 221 It's kind of, they just want everything in the buffet.

Speaker 57 That's very funny.

Speaker 116 Well, I think we want some things.

Speaker 20 I don't know. Okay, that's a weird way to put it, but I guess.
I see your point.

Speaker 78 Well, you see the point. Okay.

Speaker 116 So that was the only point at which Douglas Murray Murray was good in this thing.

Speaker 36 He made a huge mistake, Douglas Murray.

Speaker 95 But, well, he made a couple of things.

Speaker 73 First of all, he feels that, you know, Russia started the Ukraine war.

Speaker 199 It's like, okay.

Speaker 117 But Douglas Murray, I don't know what you've been smoking.

Speaker 85 But what his whole point, and I know, I've followed Douglas Murray.

Speaker 81 He's an intellectual.

Speaker 20 You know, he's fun to listen to.

Speaker 138 I can't read his books.

Speaker 1 He's quite good at debating.

Speaker 13 Yes, but this was not a debate.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But in a formal debate setting, if you get to see him in one of those, he'll kill anybody. He's one of those guys.

Speaker 1 He's one of those guys, and there's a bunch of them, that you just don't debate with him because you're just going to, you can't win.

Speaker 1 You're just going to have your ass handed to you because technique.

Speaker 111 Yes.

Speaker 218 So this was not a debate.

Speaker 64 This was just a back and forth

Speaker 203 at some point, just

Speaker 124 a verbal diarrhea yelling match.

Speaker 56 But the problem is he didn't go in and just say what he wanted to say.

Speaker 25 And I will summarize it because a lot of people watch this, you know, and

Speaker 218 Douglas Murray came off really bad because he came in saying, well, you know, all these people talking about

Speaker 95 Israel and what they're doing in Gaza.

Speaker 140 And they don't really have, you know, you're comedians, but yet you're talking like you are historians.

Speaker 13 And, you know, you're not an expert.

Speaker 139 And, you know, so of course that he put his foot in his mouth there because everyone's like, well, you have to be an expert.

Speaker 142 Well, you can't just talk about stuff.

Speaker 218 This is America. You're lime.

Speaker 15 We can say whatever we want.

Speaker 20 But what he was really trying to say is he, too, is seeing the rise of anti-Jew, anti-Israel, Epstein, Mossad, blackmail, blackmail nation, Whitney Webb, all this stuff

Speaker 36 very much on the rise.

Speaker 124 And instead of saying, hey, cut that out,

Speaker 64 this is not correct or

Speaker 12 anything, but he didn't say any of that.

Speaker 179 Instead, he kept trying to tell Joe Rogan he needs to have experts on.

Speaker 14 It was the stupidest thing.

Speaker 90 He couldn't just come out and say what he meant.

Speaker 57 It's like, hey, easy on the Jew hate, which we've seen it.

Speaker 90 This is why we distance ourselves from Noah Genda Social.

Speaker 89 Yeah. It was too much.

Speaker 33 It's like, stop.

Speaker 1 And to this day. The follow-up was just as bad, if not worse.
Yeah. Which

Speaker 1 I've just given up on. I haven't looked in.

Speaker 128 I don't even look at my own Mastodon.

Speaker 204 No, of course not.

Speaker 1 And you were the big Mastodon promoter.

Speaker 109 Yeah, well, until I wasn't.

Speaker 98 And now it's just, you know, now it's turned into Zionist.

Speaker 167 You're a Zionist, you're a Zionist boomer, shill.

Speaker 11 What does Assad have on you?

Speaker 9 Whoa, were you at Epstein Island?

Speaker 25 It's insane.

Speaker 81 Now, that said, it's insane.

Speaker 130 Tulsi Gabbard not doing anybody any favors.

Speaker 68 And lastly, sir, sir, as you know, declassification and rooting out weaponization and politicization of the intelligence community is a huge priority.

Speaker 68 You know more than anyone else the very dangers and negative consequences of that. I've got a long list of things that we're investigating.
We have the best of the best going after this.

Speaker 68 Election integrity being one of them,

Speaker 224 we have

Speaker 68 evidence of how these electronic voting systems have been vulnerable to hackers for a very long time and vulnerable to exploitation to manipulate the results of the votes being cast, which further drives forward your mandate to bring about paper ballots across the country so that voters can have faith in the integrity of our elections.

Speaker 68 And lastly, we've been scanning. I've had over 100 people working around the clock to scan the

Speaker 68 paper around RFK, Senator Robert F. Kennedy's assassination, as well as Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination.
These have been sitting in boxes in storage for decades.

Speaker 68 They have never been scanned or seen before. We'll have those ready to release here within the next few days.

Speaker 23 I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but where's the Epstein files we were promised?

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 she took that same spiel.

Speaker 1 That was from the cabinet meeting.

Speaker 50 Yes, which is great.

Speaker 104 It's run just like she took this morning spiel.

Speaker 1 I have a clip of Tulsi Schwitzeroo, it's called.

Speaker 1 And this is from

Speaker 1 she refined that particular spiel and she went on Fox. I think this was with Hannity.

Speaker 1 I only have part of the clip, so I don't know if it was Hannah. I think it was pretty sure it was Hannity.

Speaker 1 And she does this bit, and it's the same basic thing, but what she's doing here is interesting. Yes, she's leaving,

Speaker 1 she's talking about what she's going to develop out of this, all this, you know, you're going to dig through all this old stuff, leaving out Epstein and then doing a little, and she did it on that clip too, a little bit.

Speaker 1 This is more obvious. And instead of going toward Epstein, she does a switcheroo at the end and starts talking about the faulty 2020 election.

Speaker 1 And this is so seamless. And it's like, is this really what is what is what is the deal here? Let's play this and then maybe we can discuss it.

Speaker 224 In other cases, they have been hidden with the hopes that no one would ever find them.

Speaker 224 Related to the Senator Kennedy assassination files, the MLK assassination files, unlike the JFK files, these have never been scanned. They've never been digitized.

Speaker 224 These are pieces of paper, hundreds and thousands of them, that have been sitting in boxes at the National Archives and Records Agency.

Speaker 224 So we've had over 100 people manually scanning every one of these pages, preparing them to fulfill what President Trump promised the American people, maximum transparency in the release of these files that have never been released before, publicly before.

Speaker 224 We're not stopping there. We know that not all of those documents have been turned over to the National Archives Agency.

Speaker 224 And so we've got teams out there going and searching in warehouses at the FBI, at the CIA, and other places to uncover related documents that, for one reason or another, were never turned over before.

Speaker 224 So President Trump is very serious, obviously, about working to achieve that maximum transparency. That transparency will allow us to bring about accountability

Speaker 224 around the Russia collusion hoax, for example. The more we dig, the more we find the extent of the seriousness and the intent of that whole operation was

Speaker 224 very consistent with what we found in Stalin's operation. Show me the man and I'll show you the crime.

Speaker 224 It is disheartening to see these things, but it also provides us the opportunity to tell the American people the truth about what's been going on so that we can make sure we try to bring about an end to it and bring about that accountability.

Speaker 28 So what is is she going to?

Speaker 28 What is she switching?

Speaker 1 The switcheroo, I guess, was for

Speaker 1 the Russia collusion hoax.

Speaker 139 Who cares?

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 63 The whole thing is.

Speaker 1 Who cares about the Russian collusion hoax?

Speaker 87 Well, we want the president, the P.

Speaker 55 Diddy,

Speaker 1 we want Epstein.

Speaker 225 We want P.

Speaker 88 Diddy. We want Epstein.

Speaker 12 That's all we care about.

Speaker 81 Yes, I'm with you.

Speaker 10 I'm with you.

Speaker 63 Yeah, no, no, nothing.

Speaker 13 Nothing, nothing, nothing.

Speaker 64 And then just to make matters worse, they're now calling her

Speaker 23 Terrorist Barbie.

Speaker 99 And I'm not quite sure what she's doing, Christy Gnome.

Speaker 1 Christy Gnome.

Speaker 178 They call her Terrorist.

Speaker 1 She's crazy.

Speaker 1 She's wearing these outfits. She just loves dressing up as some sort of an agent, and she's wearing flack jackets and hats.

Speaker 1 And she's going out there, and then she's grilling these guys. Why did you do this?

Speaker 36 With her sidearm, she has a sidearm.

Speaker 34 It's ridiculous.

Speaker 84 Well, here she is.

Speaker 103 Now she's all dressed up and she's nice.

Speaker 148 Hi, I'm Christine Helm, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. If you plan on traveling, we need your help to prevent delays and to prove your identity.

Speaker 67 Get a real ID.

Speaker 25 Starting May 7th, you will need a real ID to travel by air or to visit federal buildings in the United States.

Speaker 189 These IDs keep our country safe because they help prevent fraud and they enhance security.

Speaker 148 Please do your part to protect our country. Go today and don't delay.

Speaker 189 Or go to dhs.gov slash real-id.

Speaker 59 Thank you.

Speaker 53 Don't delay.

Speaker 1 This bothers me, dude. You have no idea how much this is.

Speaker 83 Oh, I do.

Speaker 139 It bothers me, too.

Speaker 90 And she has a little story.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it bothers me because of your thesis. Yeah,

Speaker 81 because I'm right.

Speaker 1 Yep, it's happening. You're not right yet, but you're going to be.
And this is really what's bothering me.

Speaker 140 Just the fact that I'm going to be right or the fact that what I said is going to happen?

Speaker 1 The fact that you're going to be right about something that should not happen,

Speaker 1 which is digital ID, which is what this is really headed toward. There's no reason for this real ID bull crap.

Speaker 1 It was resisted at the get-go from the get-go is Thomas Massey is the only guy still pushing against it.

Speaker 1 And he's right.

Speaker 1 What's the point? How does it prevent fraud?

Speaker 139 She should have said this will make our country safe and effective.

Speaker 90 That's what she should have said because it will make our country very effective.

Speaker 116 But according to The Guardian,

Speaker 144 we will now see a journey pass.

Speaker 114 A journey pass is going to come into play.

Speaker 177 What is that going to be?

Speaker 78 And this is an ICAO thing.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you, on May 7th, you know, since the flying public

Speaker 1 probably only has about 70% coverage of these real IDs, it's going to be a nightmare at the airport.

Speaker 35 Well, so where they want to move this toward, and this is ICAO, the International Civil Aviation Organization.

Speaker 56 So that's, you know, that is the UN body responsible for airline policy.

Speaker 95 They are going to come up with a journey pass.

Speaker 92 So you'll have this on your phone, which makes it very difficult for those of you who have one of our hot new books where you can store your phone, but you could take the book with you and then, you know, take it out of the book.

Speaker 139 And it will have your entire journey on it.

Speaker 120 So you only have to scan once upon entering the airport facial recognition.

Speaker 22 And that's it. You'll be good.

Speaker 84 And they've been testing all of this.

Speaker 90 TSA has been testing it with the facial recognition.

Speaker 21 The boarding process is facial recognition.

Speaker 64 They're just stringing it all together and they're going to make it official and call it the journey pass.

Speaker 66 And you show up.

Speaker 134 And they always do this with travel.

Speaker 21 Everybody's got travel.

Speaker 19 We've all like, okay, I got to take my shoes off.

Speaker 218 Oh, it's annoying.

Speaker 135 Okay, I'll get TSA pre-check.

Speaker 218 Okay, then all my biometrics are now.

Speaker 25 Now I'll get the global entry.

Speaker 83 And they always do it with travel because we live in this connected travel world.

Speaker 21 And that will soon be for everything.

Speaker 66 Your journey pass.

Speaker 92 Welcome to the restaurant.

Speaker 56 Please let me scan your face.

Speaker 113 Do you have a journey pass?

Speaker 133 Oh, you're good to go. Come on in.

Speaker 135 And that will be your digital ID based on facial recognition.

Speaker 66 It's unavoidable.

Speaker 36 It's very bad, but it's unavoidable.

Speaker 1 Every time you go to Costco now,

Speaker 1 Journey Pass, you'll have, well, they won't even mention it because there'll be just some cameras there and then

Speaker 1 they'll just dock it.

Speaker 1 There would be no pass. It'll be all, like you said, facial recognition is the digital ID.
And so you walk into Costco and you get, they boom, they take the picture. You won't even know.

Speaker 1 And the next thing, but it goes into the database, the government database. Where was this guy on Tuesday, the 3rd?

Speaker 25 Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 Oh, he was at Costco for an hour.

Speaker 1 And he left Costco, and then we caught him. He was in his car.
We had the license plate checker. He

Speaker 1 got home 20 minutes later, and he walked up the steps. Yeah, we have the ring doorbell data.
And so he's in the house as we speak so we can bomb him.

Speaker 105 I think drone him is the term.

Speaker 50 We can drone him.

Speaker 1 Drone the place. He's there.
We know for a fact he's there.

Speaker 88 This is why you need more kids.

Speaker 73 You need at least five kids because for sure one of your kids is going to get droned for something.

Speaker 25 So you need to have more kids than you normally would have because the government will drone one of them.

Speaker 86 Oh, man.

Speaker 72 Yeah. None of this is good.

Speaker 49 This is good.

Speaker 12 Let's do some gaffes.

Speaker 142 I got two gaff clips.

Speaker 21 I'll just wet your appetite with gaffs.

Speaker 55 Gaffs, gaffs, gaff, gaffes, g-a-f-e, gaff, gaff, gaff, gaff, g-a-f-f-e, golf, alpha, fox, fox, echo.

Speaker 86 GAF.

Speaker 60 I'm all ears.

Speaker 226 These will be direct talks with the Iranians, and I want to make that very clear. I also spoke to the president just last night about his goal when it comes to Iran.

Speaker 226 And he has reiterated repeatedly to all of you publicly and also privately to his team here at the White House.

Speaker 226 His ultimate goal and the ultimate objective is to ensure that Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 120 Now, I heard nuclear erection.

Speaker 36 I don't know about you.

Speaker 7 I heard nuclear erection, and I'm sticking to the nuclear power.

Speaker 1 Play that little part again. I didn't hear it.

Speaker 226 The ultimate goal and the ultimate objective is to ensure that Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 62 Come on.

Speaker 204 All right.

Speaker 103 Well, this one's more clear then.

Speaker 188 This is

Speaker 35 this is the house whip.

Speaker 83 Whip.

Speaker 134 Whip.

Speaker 165 Tom Emmer.

Speaker 13 Which, by the way, Emmer in Dutch is bucket.

Speaker 36 I'm not sure why.

Speaker 49 Tom Bucket.

Speaker 1 Tom Bucket.

Speaker 23 Here's Tom Bucket, the House Whip.

Speaker 116 This is a much clearer gaffe.

Speaker 227 It's going to take every person in this room to get the job done. And I know that we will because failure is simply not an option.
President Trump is counting on us.

Speaker 111 Come on. Come on.

Speaker 79 Well, after President Pump, this one is very obvious.

Speaker 227 President Trump is counting on us.

Speaker 1 President Kunt?

Speaker 130 That's what sounded like to me.

Speaker 90 I'm just thinking that's what it was.

Speaker 79 Let's listen again.

Speaker 63 President Trump is counting on us.

Speaker 1 Oh, I see. That's where he got it.
He got it from counting.

Speaker 20 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 Of course. Yeah, he was prisoner.
He was thinking

Speaker 1 about the head. He was reading Trump, and so he got the C into the.
He was wrong.

Speaker 25 He was reading ahead.

Speaker 63 He was reading ahead.

Speaker 25 I know you.

Speaker 12 No, that's all.

Speaker 97 I got two. Come on, I got two.
Where's yours?

Speaker 1 Oh, and you could do a series.

Speaker 25 I expect three, four, ten.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 198 It's not like COVID.

Speaker 109 We had everyone was like, we're taking the virus.

Speaker 124 You need the virus shots. I mean, the vaccine shots.

Speaker 91 No, none of that.

Speaker 1 Well, before we take a break, let's play another TikTok clip.

Speaker 25 Okay, this will be good.

Speaker 220 Let's do a TikTok clip because, gee, what do we do without phones?

Speaker 140 If no one, if everyone had their phone in a book, we would have no TikTok clips.

Speaker 1 And by the way, most they have to, I have to say now that the number of legitimate TikTok clips in my list, I just call them that because they're on Reels and scam, what are all these?

Speaker 218 In case you hadn't noticed, every social network, every single one, is copying TikTok.

Speaker 23 And it's all just video.

Speaker 88 Just go look at the timeline on X.

Speaker 1 It's all video.

Speaker 1 And I've said this. I think I said it on this show.
I said it on DH Unplugged.

Speaker 1 There's a slight genius to TikTok that these other guys can't seem to figure out. And I'm going to reveal it.
Go!

Speaker 1 The big reveal. And I don't understand why these other idiots, Facebook,

Speaker 1 Insta.

Speaker 1 Twitter, all of them, the TikTok videos that they play on TikTok are instantly downloadable with a simple click. They will save any one of them to as an MP4 right off the site.

Speaker 151 Well, you know, you don't have to go. You know why?

Speaker 48 Because they all have TikTok in them.

Speaker 85 And so that, so

Speaker 1 they have self-promotion in the clip. Yes.
So at the end, they have the little TikTok jingle and it says TikTok.

Speaker 25 Yep.

Speaker 1 These other morons

Speaker 1 can't figure this out?

Speaker 20 No.

Speaker 86 No. No, they clearly can't.

Speaker 1 And That's so obviously a great idea. And so I, so I get to take, so I won't be on Twitter, and there's a TikTok clip with a promotion for TikTok

Speaker 1 because it's so easy to download. You just click, boom, it's downloaded.
You got the clip. You can save it.
No, no, no, we can't do that.

Speaker 144 Yeah,

Speaker 140 it gives them promotion and saves them bandwidth.

Speaker 128 It's very smart.

Speaker 1 It's extremely smart, but the

Speaker 1 just annoying as hell. Okay, let's play the coffee girl.

Speaker 228 I mean this with every fiber of respect in my body. As a conservative woman, I do not want conservatives making my coffee.
I quite literally want a liberal making my coffee.

Speaker 228 That is, we all have places in this world. Liberals are great at making coffee, okay? And I walked into a coffee shop today, and it was literally a blue-haired girl with piercings all over.

Speaker 228 And this is the best latte I've ever had. God is good.
God is real.

Speaker 39 We all have a place on this earth. It's It's a beautiful thing, really.

Speaker 228 So, anyways, yeah.

Speaker 39 Peace and blessings.

Speaker 81 Blasphemy, I tell you.

Speaker 25 Blasphemy.

Speaker 53 Blasphemy.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, those liberals that make the great coffee, let's listen to one of them.

Speaker 1 This is the Starbucks clip of some poor guy who has to actually work at a Starbucks and he's just miserable because he has to work eight hours.

Speaker 229 People wonder why we need a union at Starbucks, and I

Speaker 229 am literally about to quit. Like I I don't know if I'm gonna do it but like I really want to.
I almost walked out today and I'm crying in the back room right now and I'm most crying on the floor.

Speaker 229 It's just

Speaker 229 I like I get s I'm I'm like a full-time student. I get scheduled for twenty five hours a week and then on weekends they schedule me the entire day open to close.

Speaker 229 I'm on the schedule for eight and a half hours.

Speaker 229 both Saturday and Sunday. I'm like three and a half hours into my shift.
There's so many customers and we have have four people on the floor all day.

Speaker 229 Only five people were put on the schedule and somebody had to call out and there are four people running the whole store and there's so many customers and there's buzz and they scheduled five people.

Speaker 229 We only have 13 people employed at this store and there's so many customers. I think I could

Speaker 229 We don't have fair scheduling. Managers don't care about us.

Speaker 229 Our manager was supposed to come in this weekend and he took himself off the schedule so he wouldn't be able to be held accountable for calling out.

Speaker 229 He just literally tore down down the schedule that he was scheduled on and put up a new schedule where he wasn't on the schedule.

Speaker 229 Also he couldn't have even seen that he was scheduled in the first place because he didn't want to be held accountable for not wanting to come in.

Speaker 229 They don't want to help us.

Speaker 229 We need a union because this can't happen. This can't happen.
We need fair scheduling. We need managers to hold themselves accountable for helping their workers.
They refuse to turn mobile orders off.

Speaker 229 We need the liberty to be able to do that because there's so many mobile orders and I need to get through all of them.

Speaker 229 And then people are yelling at me because I don't have their orders ready and they don't know what to do.

Speaker 229 And a customer was misgendering me today, like really badly. I didn't have their order ready, and so they were just like holly-talking to each other.
And they're like, She's clearly incompetent.

Speaker 229 I have a full mustache and beard.

Speaker 9 Oh, kick her at the end.

Speaker 25 Nice.

Speaker 76 Oh!

Speaker 95 Okay, a couple things.

Speaker 36 When I was a kid, when I was 16, and I worked my Saturday job at Falkenberg,

Speaker 132 which was an electronic store, where we had to

Speaker 73 hobbyists would come in and they won't be in the middle of the day.

Speaker 1 Were they misgendering you?

Speaker 78 Sometimes.

Speaker 130 They would come in and they would.

Speaker 22 And by the way, we had to be there at 7.30 and get ready.

Speaker 150 And we had to set up the till.

Speaker 82 The till, the till was a

Speaker 81 semi-automatic.

Speaker 218 And I'll explain that in a second.

Speaker 56 So we had hobbyists come in and they'd say, yes, I want five.

Speaker 130 Here's my list.

Speaker 23 I have five

Speaker 90 10k ohm capacitor resistors.

Speaker 83 I have 15

Speaker 118 microfarad.

Speaker 130 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 187 Microfarad capacitors.

Speaker 55 And then I need this length of wire. And you do all that.
And you had to put in a little bag.

Speaker 178 And so you had to read the codes.

Speaker 178 You had to look at the color codes to get it right to make sure, because there could be one in the wrong box because the nerd nerd across from you would notice it immediately that's not the right resistance and then you had to write it on a piece of paper carbon copy paper stick it into the till you didn't didn't have quite to crank the thing and they had it although you if the power went out you could crank it by hand you had to type in the numbers

Speaker 13 and they went

Speaker 78 and it spit the paper back out and then you had to give change you had to calculate the change and give them the change back and then by the time we were finally done it was a lunch hour you went and made out with the phone receptionist in the back.

Speaker 132 That was a Saturday, man.

Speaker 49 And these kids.

Speaker 85 This is why you need multiple kids.

Speaker 133 Some of them just need to put snow in their mouth when they come out.

Speaker 19 This is wrong. What happened?

Speaker 81 No wonder we're losing.

Speaker 111 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is very. That kid at the Starbucks is the reason we're losing.

Speaker 1 It's a noodle boy.

Speaker 2 Oh, or a girl.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was a girl boy. It was a trans.
It was a vam. I don't know I forgot my jingle.

Speaker 25 You're a boomer.

Speaker 36 I forgot my jingle.

Speaker 109 You're a boomer.

Speaker 111 Yes, boomer.

Speaker 132 Call me a boomer what you want.

Speaker 103 But that was, and that was in Holland.

Speaker 216 That's not, that was my American spirit in Holland.

Speaker 49 We used to have that.

Speaker 20 We used to have that.

Speaker 1 You used the wrong resistor in that drawer. Yeah, you could probably see it a mile away if you were on the lookout.

Speaker 106 Yeah.

Speaker 35 Exactly. And then you had to explain.

Speaker 1 It's got a blue line on it, not a red line. What are you doing?

Speaker 31 You had to explain why you wanted the cassette tape with chrome with Dolby and

Speaker 124 how you used it and how you would record with or without Dolby.

Speaker 1 Oh, I remember chrome tape.

Speaker 81 Chrome tape, baby. Yeah.

Speaker 29 That was the good stuff.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 12 Yes.

Speaker 109 Well, then here's how I got lucky.

Speaker 13 Then the VIC-20 came out, the Commodore VIC-20.

Speaker 200 And then everything changed from that moment. Because then I was writing database programs for dentists on the VIC-20, and you record your database on your cassette tape.

Speaker 47 This is how we grew up.

Speaker 132 And then during lunch, we no longer made out with the receptionist in the back.

Speaker 216 No, we were copying ROMs, game ROMs,

Speaker 83 copying it.

Speaker 56 Ah, there's a new ROM with a game.

Speaker 177 Let's copy it on the cassette tape. Take it home with me.

Speaker 125 That's what we were doing.

Speaker 12 This is why I think ham radio is good for kids.

Speaker 83 There's some of these new, um, the new Chinese ham radios, so uh,

Speaker 36 building building on the success of the Baofang,

Speaker 165 and they're completely moddable.

Speaker 20 You can do all kinds of cool stuff with them now.

Speaker 81 Kids should get into that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they should.

Speaker 165 It's fun.

Speaker 130 You know, it's all digital modes.

Speaker 187 You can message back and forth.

Speaker 109 They got, you know, they've modded it.

Speaker 48 So you've got like a text messaging inside of it, point to point.

Speaker 125 There's all kinds of amazing things that are being done with that.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 58 It's the, what is it?

Speaker 49 Let me see. I should probably tell people what that is.

Speaker 149 It is the

Speaker 119 gosh, I thought I had it here.

Speaker 119 No, I guess I don't have it.

Speaker 15 I thought I saved it. Oh, yeah, here it is.

Speaker 100 The

Speaker 217 Kwan Sheng, Q-U-A-N-S-H-E-N-G, Kwan Shang UVK5 or the UVK6.

Speaker 141 These are highly hackable.

Speaker 65 A lot of fun.

Speaker 12 A lot of fun.

Speaker 20 Get your ham radio license. You have one?

Speaker 120 No, I ordered one, though, right away.

Speaker 115 Oh, yeah. How much do they go for?

Speaker 12 Are they like $25?

Speaker 204 Oh, geez.

Speaker 1 It's unbelievable.

Speaker 203 And they finally, they don't come with a stupid charging stand anymore.

Speaker 18 Now you can just charge them with USB-C.

Speaker 1 I just stick a thing in. Yeah, stick a thing in.
Yeah, that charging stand is dumb.

Speaker 139 Oh, because, you know, because if you have a couple of these radios, you you have 15 different charging stands. You don't know which one fits in where.

Speaker 1 No, it's a disaster.

Speaker 50 It's a disaster. But without it,

Speaker 1 even batteries that go in cameras from now on should have a USB connection. It should have enough circuitry.
You can shrink it down. Yes.
And should charge within. It should not have the outside.

Speaker 1 It shouldn't be necessary to hook it up to anything.

Speaker 83 And I suggest you get it now.

Speaker 144 You get it now because for some reason I have a feeling this won't fall under semiconductors.

Speaker 199 Probably not. Yeah, so

Speaker 90 it might cost you $35.

Speaker 133 Think of all the fun you can have, kids.

Speaker 85 Learn about antenna technology.

Speaker 91 It's great.

Speaker 9 And with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the seas in the nuclear erection.

Speaker 130 Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr.

Speaker 89 John C.

Speaker 126 DeVore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, win the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
In the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs subs in the water, and all the dames and nights up.

Speaker 9 In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.

Speaker 25 Hello there, trolls.

Speaker 126 Troll count, troll count.

Speaker 163 There we go, trolls.

Speaker 165 We have 2,431 trolls at the peak here in the troll room, which is good to have the trolls here.

Speaker 108 Nice to see you all.

Speaker 25 Welcome aboard trollroom.io.

Speaker 95 We are one of the leading podcasts when it comes to broadcasting live, streaming live.

Speaker 169 There's no editing.

Speaker 116 It's all live to tape, and it's very interactive.

Speaker 128 People continue to troll away and talk about all kinds of fun stuff.

Speaker 218 And sometimes it's useful, usually not, but sometimes they're talking amongst each other.

Speaker 143 It's like being in a television studio audience, but you can talk to each other.

Speaker 25 How about that?

Speaker 85 Imagine you can laugh, you can cry, you can be mad, and it's all at trollroom.io.

Speaker 142 Or get one of the modern podcast apps.

Speaker 79 Pretty soon, you'll just be able to get podcasts on one of those fancy new ham radios from China.

Speaker 218 They'll just download it right onto it. You can share the podcast on the ham radio.

Speaker 93 I'm telling you, the modders are at it.

Speaker 135 Podcastapps.com.

Speaker 22 Value for value is the way we have chosen to live.

Speaker 109 It's been pretty good over 17 years.

Speaker 1 Until today.

Speaker 220 Through the ups and the downs.

Speaker 14 It is what it is. You know, it's, it kind of, we roll with the economic times.

Speaker 72 When you're hurting, we're hurting.

Speaker 85 When you're doing good, we're still hurting.

Speaker 12 Sometimes,

Speaker 82 sometimes it's really good, but not always.

Speaker 198 But it's okay because it's value for value.

Speaker 75 And that doesn't just mean it has to be monetary, but I will say the end of show mixes have dropped off a bit.

Speaker 218 It's not like less people are listening or, I'm sorry, downloading the podcast because that's what the metric is.

Speaker 25 By the way,

Speaker 15 I was surprised.

Speaker 217 Is DH Unplugged now doing

Speaker 20 in-show advertising?

Speaker 107 We've done it before.

Speaker 116 Oh, I didn't realize you'd done it before.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, we've done it before. On and off, we do it every so often.
It takes somebody to come up with something.

Speaker 1 We've also refused a lot of advertising

Speaker 1 for various reasons. But once in a while, somebody comes up, and Horus has worked with Interactive Brokers for a while on his other shows.
So they wanted to do this show. So he said, sure.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 88 The only thing is, like, but then

Speaker 120 I know I have an interactive.

Speaker 133 I think I still have an Interactive Brokers account.

Speaker 66 I haven't traded it in many years.

Speaker 116 But now they have like some kind of prop bet.

Speaker 1 We can bet, you know, yes, this is news to me.

Speaker 1 I think that's what they're trying to promote.

Speaker 1 You know, what's that company that did the, you know, that's just some,

Speaker 1 there's a bunch of these online operations that you can bet on stupid stuff. Like, you know, who's

Speaker 1 like, you could bet on the election. You could bet on Trump versus.

Speaker 1 Yeah, prop bets.

Speaker 108 Or just bets.

Speaker 1 But they're just bets. They're not even prop bets.

Speaker 1 Prop bets specific to sports

Speaker 1 in general.

Speaker 1 Although it would apply to politics, like say in a debate, they would have a prop bet on how many times the guy's going to be.

Speaker 116 Yeah, but this is like, you know, I think the weather's going to be bad next week.

Speaker 1 You can bet on it. Yeah,

Speaker 102 that was very interesting.

Speaker 63 That's gambling.

Speaker 25 That's gambling.

Speaker 120 That's not, that's not.

Speaker 92 What is that?

Speaker 1 It's gambling. It is gambling.
By the way. But

Speaker 1 it's like the

Speaker 1 generate gamblers. I told a story before.
I used to know these guys when I was in college. There were these guys.

Speaker 134 Polymarket.

Speaker 36 Polymarket. Thank you, trolls.

Speaker 161 Polymarket.

Speaker 1 They were degenerate gamblers, and they were always, and you run into those, they lived in a house, there's four of them. And one time we picked them up to go bowling with a little group of us, and

Speaker 1 I went to their place with somebody else to get it. Come on, let's go.
And they say, okay, well, hold on. So Jim's got to go get his coat.

Speaker 1 And so one of the guys went, had to go back digging around in the back of the house. And while the guy was

Speaker 1 on the process of going to get his coat, the other two guys that were there had to flip coins for quarters because i mean they just were gambling

Speaker 55 they couldn't stop gambling they were they gambled on everything

Speaker 161 you know listening to that uh because i i typically i'll just listen to podcasts i'm not really a big podcast watcher uh so i'm listening to that three hours and nine minutes of that horrible debate between douglas murray and dave and mainly dave smith and a little bit of joe rogan in there and every 15 minutes they insert ads, and a lot of it was gambling.

Speaker 184 There's a lot. And then you get free money.

Speaker 108 Like here, you get $150 to bet for free.

Speaker 1 You have to use it within, you have to use it within $100.

Speaker 1 And if you stop betting, they'll come under and offer you some free money because they figure you're going to blow through that and get back into the addiction part of it, which means you're just going to lose.

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 1 No, probably about it. It's designed for you to lose your money.

Speaker 106 No.

Speaker 73 Yeah, just, but even just ads by itself, like, oh, especially if it's such a riveting conversation.

Speaker 19 Oh, it's very jarring.

Speaker 108 I'm glad we chose a different path.

Speaker 218 The path we chose is value for value, time, talent, or treasure, which means you can do a lot for the show.

Speaker 110 There's people working on a new, actually we could use a couple, but I'd like to stack up a couple of best ofs, like really kick-ass best of

Speaker 108 shows that are,

Speaker 73 which are always fresh and new because you can assemble them in so many different ways, so many different themes.

Speaker 95 Bingit.io is your friend in that case.

Speaker 20 You can find any topic in every single episode, every clip.

Speaker 125 It's thank you, Sir Denonymous.

Speaker 56 That's a great example.

Speaker 36 Sir Deanonymous created that, Bingit.io for us.

Speaker 66 You can search everything on that site.

Speaker 109 It's unbelievable how good that is.

Speaker 165 Every single show going back to episode one, all the show notes, all the transcripts, all the clips, all index.

Speaker 25 You just type in blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it pops it up.

Speaker 58 That's how I have to go back all the time.

Speaker 19 Like, did we talk about it?

Speaker 49 Yes, we did talk about it.

Speaker 168 Because you forget.

Speaker 15 So we have artists who do stuff for us.

Speaker 201 And

Speaker 83 we appreciate that because art is hard, even if you're using tools like Photoshop, the GIMP, or yes, indeed, AI.

Speaker 108 It's still very hard because you have to have a creative insight, a creative gene.

Speaker 134 It's still art.

Speaker 218 You still have to come up with something that actually works.

Speaker 54 And kind of failed last show.

Speaker 21 We chose what we thought was the best.

Speaker 36 I mean, again, we'll blame ourselves.

Speaker 55 We just didn't have something that hit it.

Speaker 120 This was an old theme.

Speaker 20 It was the cell phone in the drawer.

Speaker 182 Which people did like just looking at the responses on

Speaker 201 X.

Speaker 25 That was a cute piece.

Speaker 50 It was cute, yes.

Speaker 55 But I mean, it wasn't, we weren't blown away by it.

Speaker 90 There were several, well, first of all, it's Tanstaff, also.

Speaker 36 There are no such thing as a free lunch. We finally figured out what that means.

Speaker 95 And Tanstaff

Speaker 182 has won several times.

Speaker 58 Let's take a look at what we had.

Speaker 73 NoagendaArtGenerator.com is where you can follow along.

Speaker 36 You can actually see the artists uploading art live as we talk, as we do the show, and all the way up because we choose the art right after we're done.

Speaker 47 You know, we get the opening little blip.

Speaker 99 We do the credits.

Speaker 48 And we try to delay as long as possible to give everybody as much chance to get their artwork in.

Speaker 169 And I personally now like the

Speaker 75 Blackberry with the crack screen.

Speaker 16 You didn't like that because you felt that people couldn't see it was a Blackberry with a cracked screen.

Speaker 1 No, it didn't look like a cracked screen.

Speaker 52 It looked like an iBall, like an eyeball.

Speaker 93 Iris.

Speaker 119 Like an iris. Yeah, that was a fair point.

Speaker 63 Let's see.

Speaker 95 There were more cell phones in the drawers.

Speaker 116 We had MAGA credentials, which is okay.

Speaker 1 There wasn't much.

Speaker 62 No.

Speaker 25 Well,

Speaker 25 a lot of books, a lot of hollow books, but

Speaker 1 you're so anti-disciplinary. This is like the, this is, you know, you've done this.
You started to do this, I think, about it, I don't know, six months ago, well, maybe before that.

Speaker 1 You're looking for like a callback theme. Yeah.
And you just take it through the whole show. So at the very end of the show, you'll probably make some other comment about the hollow books.

Speaker 35 Because I believe in this idea.

Speaker 34 Yeah, I know you do.

Speaker 120 And you believed in it too.

Speaker 36 But then when I started to come up with some real implementation ideas, you started walking it back.

Speaker 81 You're not going to sell any of this.

Speaker 62 It's too expensive.

Speaker 116 Walking it back, walking it back.

Speaker 12 I mean,

Speaker 48 I don't like to do this to you, but you set yourself up for it.

Speaker 29 You do. That's okay.

Speaker 1 This is funny.

Speaker 25 This is humorous.

Speaker 97 It would be funnier if we had the actual product in production. It would be.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 218 Jay can do the cover.

Speaker 90 She knows how to, you can print it at home.

Speaker 1 Oh, please. Now you're cheapening the product.

Speaker 111 Well, okay.

Speaker 1 And you're making her do the work.

Speaker 84 Well, we cut her in.

Speaker 29 She's always okay.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, she could charge. Sure.

Speaker 143 You guys produce books.

Speaker 17 You have a publisher.

Speaker 1 I can't get back to the point.

Speaker 25 We were talking about art.

Speaker 11 I was.

Speaker 25 It was lots of hollow book art.

Speaker 15 It was nice.

Speaker 19 Let me see.

Speaker 92 I think that was it.

Speaker 124 Just a lot of Trump AI.

Speaker 36 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 133 It's not going to happen.

Speaker 144 This Darren O'Neill is just wasting compute.

Speaker 20 Stop wasting compute, Darren O'Neill.

Speaker 1 I think he's got a

Speaker 65 rut.

Speaker 1 Well, no, he's got a pays.

Speaker 84 Yeah, of course he pays.

Speaker 1 And so he has to get his money's worth. This is a flat fee.

Speaker 223 Well, the funniest one, although it would have been good if it wasn't if it wasn't Trump on an eagle, but it was kind of like the farmer's wife type level art with crayon.

Speaker 87 Yeah. That he that somehow got that.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 140 I mean, farmer's wife could have done this.

Speaker 64 We would have picked.

Speaker 19 Well, not Trump.

Speaker 173 Stop with the Trump stuff.

Speaker 15 You know, it's

Speaker 15 no,

Speaker 58 I just don't think that's, uh, I don't think it's, it's no good.

Speaker 83 Well, I think that was it, wasn't it?

Speaker 63 Yeah, there's nothing much to say.

Speaker 12 All right, Tom Staffel, congratulations.

Speaker 64 Uh, another win for you.

Speaker 107 Of course, these other artists, you've probably seen it.

Speaker 73 Your art will likely get used in the chapters, which you can see in the modern podcast apps.

Speaker 96 Uh, get one of those: Podverse, Podcast Guru, Podcast Addict, Fountain, you name it.

Speaker 144 It's all there.

Speaker 160 Podcastapps.com.

Speaker 113 Now, we're going to thank people who support us monetarily.

Speaker 110 What we'd like to do is up front in this segment, thank our executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 25 What is that, you ask?

Speaker 135 Well, we thank everybody who sends in $50 or above. And we don't do under 50 for reasons of anonymity.

Speaker 36 People do want to just be able to donate and know that we're not going to mess it up because we're famous at doing that.

Speaker 110 So $200 or above, we will read your note and you get an associate executive producer credit, which is just as valid as something that you'd get from Hollywood.

Speaker 64 I mean, you literally can be right up there with Dana Brunetti.

Speaker 15 Dana Brunetti, who just took all the riches out of the country,

Speaker 217 gives nothing back to America, but you gave something back to America.

Speaker 108 You're a good associate executive producer because you helped produce the best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 107 Then we have the executive producer credit, and these are good for a lifetime.

Speaker 133 Just go look at INDB.com, and that is $300 or above.

Speaker 107 And we will start with our first executive producer.

Speaker 109 We have three of them today.

Speaker 113 And that starts with Darth Penguin.

Speaker 144 Sounds like a legit name.

Speaker 102 Darth Penguin from

Speaker 1 Darth Penguin.

Speaker 109 Yeah. Yeah.
Legit.

Speaker 90 From Streamwood, Illinois, and comes in with $1,080 and $0.8 cents.

Speaker 81 So that's a 10 boob.

Speaker 25 10 boob.

Speaker 55 And And Darth Penguin said...

Speaker 81 10 boob boobs.

Speaker 25 10 boob. Yeah, it's a 10 boob.

Speaker 159 Like a dog.

Speaker 14 He says,

Speaker 12 this gift of treasure to the best podcast in the universe is for a boob instanite.

Speaker 33 Nice.

Speaker 1 Well, that's an interesting idea.

Speaker 15 Boob Instanite. That's right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, boob Instanite. I recently helped elevate totally not serial killer Kate to achieve her damedun.

Speaker 111 Damedun.

Speaker 120 It would be truly amazing that with her ascension to the roundtable, that I, being deduced last podcast, can be part of the royalty at the same time.

Speaker 74 I donate of my own free will, my treasure to Lord Adam and Lord John.

Speaker 90 I request left-hand brewery milk, stout nitro, and Vito, and Nick's pizza.

Speaker 15 Uh, did I get the stout?

Speaker 125 I was, I was gonna get some of that cheap Mexican beer. Okay, make sure you have a Nick's pizza.
You got it.

Speaker 217 Also, double karma for the Noah Genda family and a Scott Simon jingle for Susan from Tinley Park.

Speaker 1 Did you get the Scott Simon thing or

Speaker 25 producer sent in?

Speaker 65 Yes, I did.

Speaker 150 I did.

Speaker 73 But I didn't know what to do. It's very good.

Speaker 95 It's very funny.

Speaker 1 Well, I sent him a note because I want to know

Speaker 1 what he's up to.

Speaker 1 That's him doing Scott.

Speaker 12 No, I asked him, and he answered.

Speaker 25 Oh, I asked him too.

Speaker 1 I didn't hear back.

Speaker 218 You probably blocked him.

Speaker 107 You like Senator.

Speaker 179 Is everyone compliant with you?

Speaker 1 I didn't block him because I got the thing to begin with. He does the Scott.
Okay, where's the Scott Simon come from?

Speaker 73 11 Labs. labs

Speaker 1 he says okay he says 11 labs has gotten pretty good with you can I guess you can upload a sample now yeah no it's been always good I've been wanting to use I don't pay for the 11 labs stuff so I'm gonna have to pay for it because I would like to upload some voices yes and because these voices that I use for the fake end-of-show yeah they're getting pretty annoying They're the same people and you can't do too many.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're beyond your limit.

Speaker 1 Your free limits are over. Oh,

Speaker 36 because you'll adjust it by adding an exclamation point and then it's like, I'm sorry, your free limit is over.

Speaker 20 You can't do that.

Speaker 1 Your free limit.

Speaker 75 You have to wait four hours.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't get that. But the

Speaker 1 yes, okay. Well, the Scott Simon that he's put in there is killer.

Speaker 92 Well, I have it.

Speaker 128 I mean, I can play it for a second.

Speaker 1 Well, it's very long.

Speaker 48 Well, we can just play it for a second.

Speaker 1 I'll play a little bit of it. Okay.

Speaker 49 Okay. So here's a little bit of it.

Speaker 36 It's bonus clip, everybody.

Speaker 212 Good morning. This is weekend edition from NPR.
I'm Scott Simon, and I'd like to begin today's show with a moment of quiet reflection.

Speaker 212 Not for any particular reason. I just enjoy the sound of my own breathing.
It reassures me that for now,

Speaker 212 I am still here.

Speaker 212 Our top story today, scientists have issued yet another dire warning about climate change. The oceans are rising, the forests are burning, and quite frankly, I can't help but wonder: why

Speaker 212 am I still paying rent?

Speaker 102 So

Speaker 1 there's not enough.

Speaker 1 This is quite good, by the way.

Speaker 183 I'll put it in the show notes.

Speaker 132 It's like four minutes.

Speaker 93 There's not enough marbles in the mouth, but it's pretty good.

Speaker 108 But what's good is he wrote a great script.

Speaker 1 The script is dynamite. That's what he did.

Speaker 108 He wrote a great script.

Speaker 19 And so, again,

Speaker 187 you can't say to AI,

Speaker 56 create a four-minute funny piece of Scott Seidman. AI will not give you this.

Speaker 212 I should just lie down in the middle of a Whole Foods parking lot and let nature take me. But first, an update on my personal life.

Speaker 2 Play a little more.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 119 Hold on a second.

Speaker 49 Let me get back to where I was. Okay.

Speaker 83 Here.

Speaker 212 Financial struggles of young Americans who claim they will never be able to afford a home. But have they considered simply inheriting one?

Speaker 212 We'll speak to an anti-Trump Harvard economist who has never put a pistol to their head because they couldn't pay the electric bill and who once described his darkest moment as, quote, the time my dad made me drive the Porsche with the cloth seats.

Speaker 92 That's talent, right?

Speaker 73 That's a talent that AI cannot come up with.

Speaker 153 No.

Speaker 85 I I don't think so.

Speaker 23 But this is also the only thing AI is good at so far.

Speaker 129 This is the only use that I approve of.

Speaker 1 I think the art, I think it does good art.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 1 For quick art, spot art, the throwaway stuff that people used to get paid for. And

Speaker 1 probably not quite as good as

Speaker 1 great creativity, but great creativity is rare.

Speaker 1 So even this guy who did the, I think it's Ryan,

Speaker 1 who did the Scott Simon material, which is hilarious. Yes.

Speaker 1 That is not any, not anyone can write this

Speaker 52 kind of

Speaker 1 funny stuff.

Speaker 23 So because

Speaker 1 you are listening. Especially with the Scott Simon voice in mind.

Speaker 101 Because you are listening to the donation segment, we will do a little piece of Scott Simon in between each donation.

Speaker 25 Which won't be a lot for this episode, I promise.

Speaker 25 Definitely.

Speaker 25 So,

Speaker 78 double karma for the No Agenda family: a Scott Simon Jingle for Susan from Tinley Park.

Speaker 66 She'd appreciate it, she'd appreciate it.

Speaker 217 I'd like to be knighted as Sir Darth Penguin of Loctucky.

Speaker 12 Carry on with your critical analysis and tips.

Speaker 151 Looking forward to seeing my fellow No Agenda compatriots soon at Reggie's Rock House in the near future.

Speaker 12 ITM Suffering Sucker Tash.

Speaker 120 I'm Scott.

Speaker 37 Double up.

Speaker 61 karma. There you go.

Speaker 128 Double up karma, and we will play another Scott Simon drop right here.

Speaker 212 End quote.

Speaker 212 Speaking of regret, I'd like to issue a formal apology to the woman I dated in 1997, who told me she was going to move to New York and become an actress.

Speaker 85 I laughed. I said, You, Broadway?

Speaker 212 She's now a four-time Tony winner.

Speaker 1 Darrell Dodarian's up, and he's in Trabucco Canyon, California. He came in with 333.33.

Speaker 1 He's our old buddy. He's a

Speaker 1 probably a Baron. Been around.
Thank you for an outstanding product, he writes. Jobs, Karma, for my wife, please.

Speaker 84 And didn't he do the cutting boards for us recently?

Speaker 15 That was Error, wasn't it?

Speaker 92 I don't think so. Yeah, I think it was.

Speaker 49 I think he did the cutting boards.

Speaker 15 Yes.

Speaker 111 Yeah, I thought so.

Speaker 230 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Speaker 38 Let's vote for jobs.

Speaker 121 You've got karma.

Speaker 212 I, meanwhile, am sitting here slowly realizing that every major event of my life has been leading me to an inevitable and humiliating death.

Speaker 120 Andrew Glenn from Skelmorley.

Speaker 92 Wow, Skelmorley, that's in the United Kingdom.

Speaker 12 North

Speaker 25 Ayrshire

Speaker 110 comes in with 315.85, our last executive producer for today, but has a note that will take us

Speaker 25 a long time to read.

Speaker 130 I first started listening to No Agenda around 2009.

Speaker 103 Then in early 2010, it was on your show that I first heard Nigel Farage's famous damp rag speech to the then EU president Herman von Rompuy.

Speaker 81 It was barely covered at all by the UK media at the time.

Speaker 133 This then confirmed what I long suspected about the media on both sides of the Atlantic.

Speaker 90 And to hear you guys laying out the hypocrisies, omissions, deceits, and biases so clearly has been both entertaining and useful.

Speaker 23 Listening to no agenda over the years has put me ahead of the curve on so many issues since then, compared to my friends.

Speaker 144 Who would never admit this and who still think me something of a crackpot?

Speaker 95 I really appreciate your coverage of Europe and the UK in particular, especially now as we in Gitmo Nation East are really under the caush, kosh being a reference to a policeman's truncheon, in terms of freedom of speech, where an inappropriate tweet can get you three years in jail.

Speaker 55 I'll send you suitable material when I find it to help you tell the world of our predicament.

Speaker 187 Your business model is amazing for we producers, though I appreciate that it must have entailed a huge risk for you both.

Speaker 130 But you have stuck with value for value over the years, despite giving your respective talents, no doubt having missed out on many more lucrative opportunities.

Speaker 48 Yes, microphones, hollow books.

Speaker 25 Thanks for that.

Speaker 12 So I feel slightly ashamed that it has taken me this long to reach knighthood.

Speaker 130 I shall be known as

Speaker 50 Commodore Sir Andrew Glenn of Skelmorley, Knight of the Dropped Note, a reference to my occasionally erratic musicianship.

Speaker 54 At the round table, I'd like to request a fresh crusty bloomer loaf.

Speaker 23 Oh my, what is a bloomer loaf?

Speaker 1 I have no idea. I think it means

Speaker 2 balloon bread.

Speaker 55 With unsalted butter and a jar of bovril.

Speaker 31 Bovril, you may remember from your time in the UK, Adam, is essentially what you end up with if you boil a cow for long enough.

Speaker 103 Most consider this a thick black goo as the basis for a winter drink or bullion, but I love it spread on bread.

Speaker 77 Those Brits.

Speaker 78 I believe it is not readily available in the U.S., but thankfully the legend has it the round table is in Tintang Tintigal, England.

Speaker 1 It is actually available in the U.S.

Speaker 213 Yes, best wishes, Commodore.

Speaker 108 You know, so I actually do have the latest crazy English police clip.

Speaker 74 Did you see this?

Speaker 1 Is this the one about

Speaker 1 it's illegal to tell somebody to speak English?

Speaker 105 Yes, that's the one.

Speaker 83 It may be, I tried to filter it, but in essence, a metro police cop is questioning a citizen for having insulted another citizen by saying, speak English.

Speaker 231 Apparently, during some conversations between yourself, apparently you have alleged, we weren't here, so I don't know you've said it, but you've alleged to say, speak English.

Speaker 5 Or what's that?

Speaker 5 Speak clearly. Speak clearly.
No,

Speaker 5 the gentleman's passed on the desk. Yeah, he said,

Speaker 231 No, and that's fine, and that's why we've just come to speak because

Speaker 231 potentially someone could perceive that as a hate crime.

Speaker 74 And that's the kicker.

Speaker 90 It can be seen as a hate crime.

Speaker 1 So, but it's a hate crime to say speak English. So, the thing is.
What is wrong with these people? And the fact that these police can do this with a straight face?

Speaker 49 Yes.

Speaker 117 It's really quite nuts.

Speaker 66 The thing that's so crazy is apparently you can just say, you can just call the cops and say, I feel insulted.

Speaker 16 That's what drives me crazy about it.

Speaker 217 You can just say, I feel insulted, and then that's enough.

Speaker 85 Like, how does that make any sense?

Speaker 125 There's no written law.

Speaker 23 It's just if you, if you make someone feel bad, then that is a hate crime.

Speaker 29 It's insane.

Speaker 23 It's insane. So I feel you.

Speaker 139 I feel you, future night.

Speaker 48 And let's do another Scott Simon.

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Speaker 93 Keep going.

Speaker 1 I'll come back. That ending is quite good, too, by the way.

Speaker 65 Yeah, we'll play it at the end. We'll play it at the end.

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Speaker 230 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

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Speaker 218 I'll put the Scott Simon full clip into the show notes.

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Speaker 11 Thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 196 Our formula is this:

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Speaker 135 So I have some Bobby the Op news.

Speaker 25 Oh, okay.

Speaker 58 Yes, let me see.

Speaker 144 You know, so

Speaker 108 you saw the

Speaker 188 You saw the

Speaker 144 cabinet meeting, and Bobby the Op made his announcement, which turned into a little piece here.

Speaker 117 Although this piece was quite interesting, and then I have some analysis from Margaret Brennan from this morning, along with some doctor.

Speaker 98 But this is, in essence, what he's promising.

Speaker 69 This morning, a commitment to find possible causes of autism within six months.

Speaker 181 By September, we will know what has caused the autism epidemic, and we'll be able to eliminate those exposures.

Speaker 69 Health Secretary RFK Jr. promising during the President's cabinet meeting that he will find out why autism rates are rising.

Speaker 181 We've launched a massive

Speaker 181 testing

Speaker 181 and research effort that's going to involve hundreds of scientists from around the world.

Speaker 69 In 2000, about one out of every 150 children was diagnosed with autism. Today, the CDC says it's one in every 36.
RFK says the numbers are closer to one in 31.

Speaker 181 That's a horrible statistic, isn't it?

Speaker 180 And there's got to be something artificial out there that's doing this.

Speaker 69 Experts say some of the increase is due to more awareness and a broader definition of autism spectrum disorder.

Speaker 69 It is possible that a yet unknown factor can also be contributing to the rise, but research thus far shows genetics and advanced maternal age can potentially increase the risk.

Speaker 233 To come together and say that we're just going to get a bunch of scientists together and get an answer by September, that seems a little far-fetched.

Speaker 233 I will say a lot of good can happen when the scientific community comes together and collaborates with a unified goal.

Speaker 1 RFK.

Speaker 95 By the way, this is quite funny.

Speaker 81 It's like now everyone's saying, well, you can't do that.

Speaker 14 Be a scientist.

Speaker 140 Whatever happened to 97% of all scientists believe carbon dioxide contributes to man-made global warming.

Speaker 78 Now, all of a sudden, that doesn't count when it comes to Bobby the Op.

Speaker 69 When the scientific community comes together and collaborates with a unified goal, RFK, long a vaccine skeptic, has raised questions questions about a possible link between the measles vaccine and autism.

Speaker 187 I don't think he's ever said the measles vaccine.

Speaker 83 In fact, he said quite the opposite.

Speaker 73 He said too many childhood vaccines is a possibility.

Speaker 139 I don't think he's ever singled out the measles vaccine.

Speaker 58 But it's okay because, yeah, it's just news.

Speaker 69 Between the measles vaccine and autism, despite dozens of high-quality studies refuting the claim.

Speaker 84 High-quality studies.

Speaker 69 Kennedy has tapped a previously discredited vaccine skeptic, David Geyer, as a senior data analyst.

Speaker 233 There is some worry that there could be some bias, or this research may not be responsibly looking for a correct cause.

Speaker 69 RFK did not offer details on how the research will be conducted, but says the National Institutes of Health will oversee it and look into everything.

Speaker 120 Now,

Speaker 85 I will say that

Speaker 1 for sure the DSM-5

Speaker 220 broadened the spectrum of autism.

Speaker 36 So definitely there's an increase in the numbers because, you know, oh, he's got Tourette's autism.

Speaker 165 Oh, he's been quiet this week, autism.

Speaker 25 There's a lot of that.

Speaker 116 But there's just, I mean, even Robert De Niro had a whole documentary about his kid who got autism coincidentally after he got a whole bunch of vaccinations as a kid.

Speaker 144 But of course, he had to pull that from his own film festival because that was the wrong narrative.

Speaker 139 So now we go to CBS,

Speaker 12 Face the Nation, Margaret Renner with a doctor.

Speaker 120 Many parents.

Speaker 137 Who is the former, what is he?

Speaker 98 He's former FDA dude.

Speaker 185 Probably no.

Speaker 185 ASD diagnosis rates are on the increase in this country. The CDC says the current numbers are one in 36 American children.
This is a very broad spectrum of neurodevelopmental disorders.

Speaker 185 There's no established cause. On Thursday, the HHS Secretary Kennedy said he's got hundreds of scientists from around the world working on it, and he promised this.

Speaker 26 By September, we will know what has caused the autism epidemic and we'll be able to eliminate those exposures.

Speaker 185 That gives tremendous hope to a lot of people. Do you know anything about that ongoing research?

Speaker 234 I know a minimal amount of effort that's

Speaker 234 going on to try to re-look at prior autism

Speaker 234 research, but I'm not aware of what is being discussed there. But I cared for leukemia patients for

Speaker 234 a significant number of years.

Speaker 34 What?

Speaker 11 What does that have to do with the price of bread?

Speaker 89 What? I don't know.

Speaker 143 It was like this weird switcheroo.

Speaker 109 Well, I cared for leukemia patients.

Speaker 119 Real important stuff, not this RFK Jr. nonsense.

Speaker 234 Giving people false hope is something you should never do.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's the connection.

Speaker 66 Yeah, false hope. hope.

Speaker 1 I care for a lot of leukemia patients, and giving people false hope is not good because it causes issues.

Speaker 1 That's not what we're talking about. Nobody's giving anybody false hope about anything.
They're trying to figure out what started it.

Speaker 90 There's always hope, and I have seen miraculous cures take place in kids who I know personally cured from leukemia.

Speaker 74 Cancer-free. It does happen, doctor.

Speaker 234 Is something you should never do. It is absolutely.
You can be incredibly supportive of people.

Speaker 53 Wait, wait, wait, stop.

Speaker 1 It's still beside the point. I don't care if anyone's cured for any reason whatsoever.
False hope and finding what causes autism is a false equivalency. Yes.
That's not the same.

Speaker 1 Who cares about false hope one way or the other? Okay, so it does work. He's looking for a reason that this is happening.
What is this doctor talking about?

Speaker 48 Well, I think he's trying to discredit Bobby.

Speaker 1 Well, he's doing a crappy job of it.

Speaker 234 But giving them false hope is wrong. If you just asked me, as a scientist, is it possible to get the answer that quickly? I don't see any possible way.

Speaker 234 And remember, you're talking to the person who came up with Operation Warp Speed for vaccines. Autism is an incredibly complicated issue.

Speaker 129 Wait a minute.

Speaker 81 This guy came up with Operation Warp Speed for vaccines?

Speaker 92 This is the guy?

Speaker 58 Well, isn't that interesting?

Speaker 169 You may want to

Speaker 73 change your voice.

Speaker 100 Yes, I came up with Operation Warp Speed.

Speaker 55 You know, I don't think you want to be broadcasting that, bruh.

Speaker 234 So we have the issue of diagnosis bias. We don't know how many of those cases are true, how much of this is true growth of autism, how much of this is just that we now have diagnostic criteria.

Speaker 10 Okay, so hold on.

Speaker 1 What was Operation Warp Speed designed to do?

Speaker 95 To ram through an unproven gene therapy disguise as a vaccine to save people from autism?

Speaker 1 It was to develop a vaccine that gave people hope.

Speaker 1 And what is the fear of all the vaccine manufacturers about autism?

Speaker 1 That somehow these vaccines, especially the 80 that they now give kids instead of the five or six when I was a kid. Yeah.

Speaker 25 I'm sorry.

Speaker 25 The troll room has other ideas.

Speaker 178 It was to call the elderly.

Speaker 87 Well, there's that.

Speaker 1 We're going to ignore all that. But the point is, this guy is a mouthpiece for the vaccine people.

Speaker 25 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So he is not going to do anything that's going to encourage Bobby Kennedy in any way, shape, or form if there's even a suspicion that this is going to be traced back to vaccinations.

Speaker 1 So this guy is a bad actor who should not even be on the Brennan show. Well,

Speaker 81 imagine that.

Speaker 88 Imagine the mainstream media putting on someone to defend the big pharmas.

Speaker 185 The president of the United States said something artificial is causing autism rates to go up. On Thursday, he said, maybe you stop taking something, you stop eating something, or maybe it's a shot.

Speaker 155 Did he say that?

Speaker 1 Did he say that? Yeah, he did.

Speaker 25 Oh, wow.

Speaker 63 Oh, wow. Oh, wow.

Speaker 181 Oh, wow.

Speaker 236 But something's causing it.

Speaker 185 Right after that, RFK appeared. The HHS secretary appeared on Fox News and dismissed 14 studies that have shown no link between autism and vaccines.
He said it is an epidemic.

Speaker 45 Epidemics are not caused by genes.

Speaker 196 Genes can provide a vulnerability, but you need an environmental toxin.

Speaker 45 So we know that it is an environmental toxin that is causing this cataclysm.

Speaker 196 And we are going to identify it.

Speaker 165 Oh, that sounds real.

Speaker 185 Is there scientific evidence ruling out genetics as a cause of ASD?

Speaker 25 Oh, this is good.

Speaker 105 This is so good. What do you think his answer is?

Speaker 1 Well, he's going to have to deflect

Speaker 1 away from vaccination.

Speaker 1 Yes,

Speaker 1 to be

Speaker 81 denied, deflect, and defund or something.

Speaker 14 Let's see what he says.

Speaker 234 There's no scientific evidence ruling out genetics. In fact, there's data that has been published that say that genetics may contribute to autism.

Speaker 196 That's what he says. There are other.

Speaker 1 That's what he said.

Speaker 234 Say data that suggests that perhaps environmental factors may. But one has to be incredibly careful, incredibly careful about making associations between environmental factors and autism.

Speaker 234 There's a wonderful graphic that shows that

Speaker 234 Coca-Cola increase goes along with the increase in autism.

Speaker 11 What? He just threw big food under the bus.

Speaker 25 He just threw Coca-Cola under the Coca-Cola.

Speaker 88 Hey, dude, dude, dude, hold on a second.

Speaker 197 You know, we have Coke as an advertiser. Could you please calm it down down a little bit over there?

Speaker 234 But there's also a wonderful graphic that you can find online that shows that the increase in spending on organic food also goes along with the rise in autism.

Speaker 12 Hey,

Speaker 181 the whole foods.

Speaker 197 The whole foods account is in jeopardy. Stop it, Margaret.

Speaker 234 False causality. Scientists

Speaker 234 do not.

Speaker 234 want to find false causality. We want to find true causality.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 86 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 72 Okay.

Speaker 36 One more clip here from this Jim Ogre.

Speaker 185 It stood out to us that Secretary Kennedy has hired someone named David Geyer to conduct analysis of the links between autism and vaccines.

Speaker 185 He was charged by the state of Maryland in 2011 with practicing medicine without a license. That was weeks after his father's medical license was suspended

Speaker 185 for putting autistic children at risk by giving them a hormone blocking agent.

Speaker 54 Wow.

Speaker 104 You mean like a trans operation?

Speaker 90 I mean, gender-affirming health care?

Speaker 185 So, what should the public know or expect from the work that he will do?

Speaker 49 Wow, she's so dramatic about this.

Speaker 1 You know, this woman should be off the air.

Speaker 129 No, no,

Speaker 54 no.

Speaker 78 I mean, you want NPR to shut down, PBS to shut down, Margaret Brennan to get off the air.

Speaker 1 I want them to put us out of business.

Speaker 23 Well, okay, you better get those hollow books ready.

Speaker 185 So, what should the public know or expect from the work that he will do for the U.S. government?

Speaker 234 So, all I can say is I would not conceive. He's, to the best of my knowledge, he's not had any training after college in

Speaker 234 any of the sciences that we value here.

Speaker 234 What I think we can expect. Wait a minute.

Speaker 165 Do you mean like medical school?

Speaker 105 Is that what he means?

Speaker 234 Training after college is that what that means so he didn't go to medical he specifically says sciences that we value oh any of those so like genetic studies or uh yeah who knows yeah okay whatever they value the sciences that we value here um what i think we can expect is the expected that there will be an association determined um between vaccines and autism

Speaker 234 because it's already been determined this is not how science science is conducted.

Speaker 52 Wow.

Speaker 1 You should have said predetermined. Yeah.
Because that would have had more impact.

Speaker 1 He should have said, it's already been predetermined because that has an onerous sound to it as opposed to determined.

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He screwed up. Yeah, he did.
He's going to get a memo on this from Pfizer.

Speaker 1 Hey, dude.

Speaker 1 So I got, I have two HHS skips. Hey, dude.

Speaker 181 Hey, dude.

Speaker 14 Hey, dude.

Speaker 1 Watch your language.

Speaker 25 Hey, dude. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 HHS late cutbacks.

Speaker 237 Trump administration officials stunned local health departments across the country when they announced in March that they wanted to take back $11 billion

Speaker 237 in public health grants.

Speaker 238 Jackie Fortier with our partner, KFF Health News, reports.

Speaker 147 Local health departments have relied on the money from the Department of Health and Human Services for years.

Speaker 147 The grants began during the pandemic, but could be used for other health issues, such as mental illness, addiction, and infectious diseases.

Speaker 38 We're going to cancel 18 vaccine clinics.

Speaker 147 That's Teresa Cullen. She's director of Arizona's Pima County Health Department.
The department lost $1 million in the clawbacks.

Speaker 147 HHS spokesperson Bianca Rodriguez-Feliciano said the department wants the money back because the COVID pandemic is over. It just temporarily blocked the cuts in some states, including Arizona.

Speaker 25 We got used to it.

Speaker 147 After a group of state attorneys just

Speaker 25 more money. We got used to the money.
Free money.

Speaker 50 You can't take that away.

Speaker 120 You gave it to us during COVID.

Speaker 147 Dude, but Cullen says Arizona state officials told her to stop the work the money was paying for.

Speaker 38 We've eliminated two and a half months of the provision of care.

Speaker 147 Other states, including Texas, Minnesota, and Washington, also canceled vaccine clinics they had on the calendar. In Washoe County, Nevada, the surprise cuts mean two contract staffers will be let go.

Speaker 147 Their job is setting up and marketing vaccination events, including for state-mandated back-to-school shots for illnesses such as measles.

Speaker 81 Okay, when I was a kid, back to school meant you got a new eraser and a new pencil and a sharpener and maybe a pencil case.

Speaker 66 I don't remember back to school shots.

Speaker 25 Back to school shots.

Speaker 28 Hey, kids, it's time for your back to school shots.

Speaker 147 Lisa Lautritz is director of clinical health services for the area. She's canceling community vaccine drives that were scheduled to start this summer.

Speaker 236 Without that team, I won't be able to do it because our core team can't be in in two places at once.

Speaker 88 But I don't understand.

Speaker 25 What did they do before COVID?

Speaker 78 What were they doing?

Speaker 25 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I guess they weren't doing any of this bullcrap.

Speaker 81 Well, what shots do you need when you go back to school?

Speaker 25 COVID shots?

Speaker 1 Well, probably flu,

Speaker 1 which now turns out there's a really good Campbell clip. I retweeted it on

Speaker 1 that Dr. Campbell guy, that British guy, or

Speaker 1 the British guy who comes out and he shows a bunch of studies and shows, you know, how something doesn't work. And the latest is that you get 26% better chance of getting the flu if you got the shot.

Speaker 1 Oh, yay.

Speaker 1 This year is way up. It's way up.
So you're going to get the flu for sure if you get the shot. Oh, that's great.
Yeah. It's part two of this, I think.

Speaker 147 That core team of nurses doesn't have time to run the local clinic and do the setup for community events.

Speaker 120 Community events?

Speaker 29 Yeah. What is going on?

Speaker 53 Community events.

Speaker 25 You don't need a community event.

Speaker 12 We need to do like a cornhole.

Speaker 76 But what is your community?

Speaker 153 Community event.

Speaker 63 Community event.

Speaker 9 It's like potlug dinner.

Speaker 147 That means they will no longer be out and about offering shots at churches and senior centers.

Speaker 52 Okay.

Speaker 62 Come to Fredericksburg.

Speaker 152 Please stand in front of our church and offer shots.

Speaker 10 Shots.

Speaker 76 That'll be funny.

Speaker 29 Free shots.

Speaker 225 Free shots.

Speaker 25 Yeah, you get shot all right.

Speaker 147 Instead, she says patients will have to make an effort to come to them.

Speaker 25 Oh, no.

Speaker 55 Bam. Oh, John, very good.

Speaker 200 Very good.

Speaker 218 And you were worried I was going to mess it up, but it worked out.

Speaker 73 That was a God moment. Perfect.

Speaker 236 As someone that doesn't have insurance or doesn't have access to health care, they're going to be the ones that suffer from the cuts.

Speaker 147 This isn't the first time in her 30-year career that Lautritz has dealt with the loss of funding, but she says her community is sicker now because of budget cuts over a decade ago.

Speaker 147 For example, a local grant that paid for home visits to pregnant women was eliminated.

Speaker 147 More babies in the county are being born with syphilis, which Lautritz says could be prevented if that program was still around.

Speaker 25 What?

Speaker 87 I know.

Speaker 1 I said the same thing.

Speaker 130 Wait a minute. Do we now need syphilis shots?

Speaker 83 Like vaccines?

Speaker 1 Well, it used to have, they used to go around door to door, but now that they stop going around door to door, more babies are being born with syphilis.

Speaker 159 Wow.

Speaker 10 What the hell is that all about?

Speaker 63 Wow.

Speaker 36 That's some, that's, I thought I had a fear-mongering clip lined up.

Speaker 218 This, I mean, you, you know what?

Speaker 107 I got to tell you, that series was definitely worth it.

Speaker 1 Thank you very much.

Speaker 116 Definitely worth it.

Speaker 141 Good. Very.

Speaker 141 Okay.

Speaker 151 Here was going to be my now,

Speaker 187 in comparison, pathetic fear-mongering clip.

Speaker 73 So it's from NBC.

Speaker 218 I'm sad.

Speaker 169 I mean, well, not.

Speaker 66 I'm happy for the show, but man.

Speaker 41 In other health news, researchers

Speaker 41 with Virginia Tech are warning of a disease they say has pandemic potential. What could that be?

Speaker 50 What disease?

Speaker 123 I like the alliteration, pandemic potential.

Speaker 36 It's too long, but it would have been a show title.

Speaker 112 Pandemic potential.

Speaker 140 What do you think has pandemic potential?

Speaker 7 What disease did we recently hear about in the news that we hadn't heard of for years, but now all of a sudden has pandemic potential?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 first of all, I mean, the real one would be bird flu, but it's probably measles.

Speaker 41 It's called Hantavirus.

Speaker 29 You may have heard about it recently.

Speaker 1 I should have guessed that one. Easy, easy.

Speaker 41 It's called Hantavirus. You may have heard about it recently.
It's an infection that killed Gene Hackman's wife, and it also caused three deaths in California recently.

Speaker 41 The virus is commonly spread throughout rodent droppings and urine or saliva and can cause serious illness in humans primarily.

Speaker 89 How can that be? How can that does it transfer from human to human?

Speaker 187 How can it have pandemic potential if you get it from rat poop?

Speaker 63 This is this is

Speaker 1 a question that well that obviously as we as you played that clip whoever's doing the thing will ask that question because there's journalism involved.

Speaker 90 Well it comes at the end.

Speaker 41 Illness in humans primarily affecting the lungs. Early symptoms include fatigue, fever, muscle aches, similar to symptoms of the flu, but late symptoms can include coughing and shortness of breath.

Speaker 41 38% of people who develop these respiratory symptoms may die from the disease.

Speaker 108 Now, oh, this, so this is very tricky what she did here.

Speaker 73 So you can develop respiratory

Speaker 50 symptoms just like the flu.

Speaker 1 38% of people who develop those symptoms can die from it because may, oh, wait, wait, may die but she says but she's saying from she's making it sound like you're dying from the virus no

Speaker 19 you're dying

Speaker 41 you're dying from pneumonia yeah you're dying from pneumonia which is very dangerous but she's making it sound like rat poop is like 38 people die from rat poop shortness of breath 38 of people who develop these respiratory symptoms may die from the disease now researchers found three hot spots of hantavirus circulation in wildlife one of those is virginia 15 rodent species were identified as carriers, including six species that hadn't previously been hosts.

Speaker 41 Now, this is significant because some of those species live in regions where traditional hosts do not, meaning there's more potential for the virus to spread quicker than thought.

Speaker 41 Now, researchers are also able to get a better understanding of seasonal and climate trends like warmer winters leading to increased rodent populations and drier conditions like increasing the risk of spreading contaminated dust.

Speaker 41 The researchers plan now to further explore how changes in the climate can influence HANTA virus transmission, and you can reduce your risk of contracting the virus by eliminating or minimizing contact with rodents.

Speaker 130 Stop touching rats.

Speaker 179 Kids, don't touch rat poop.

Speaker 25 Minimize the code.

Speaker 1 You think that the people that take the subway in New York City would be the most susceptible. There's more

Speaker 14 movies of

Speaker 1 hordes of rats now, currently. Well, how can not one person in New York has gotten a Honda?

Speaker 11 Because it's bull crap.

Speaker 10 It's bull crap.

Speaker 11 The whole thing is bull crap.

Speaker 120 And then remember,

Speaker 218 remember measles, because we have all these anti-vaxxers in America,

Speaker 56 these stupid, stupid religious freaks who don't want MMR, MMR.

Speaker 23 How about the Canadians?

Speaker 81 Would you say Canadians are compliant human beings who do what they're told with some grumbling?

Speaker 1 They grumble. They always grumble.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they will do what what they're told, but they will complain.

Speaker 23 So they take their shots. Do they take their shots?

Speaker 73 Do you think Canadians take their shots?

Speaker 25 I would hope so.

Speaker 7 Well, explain this to me.

Speaker 43 The number of measles cases is skyrocketing in Ontario.

Speaker 239 We've had 34 hospitalizations associated with this outbreak, and that's included two people who have required care in an intensive care unit.

Speaker 43 470 cases have been confirmed to Public Health Ontario as of March 19th.

Speaker 43 The largest numbers are predominantly in the southern part of the province, with Southwestern Public Health reporting 223 cases and Grand Erie Public Health reporting 111 cases.

Speaker 43 People living in those areas, including the city of St. Thomas, are worried about the growing spread.

Speaker 180 People that don't want to get vaccinated, and I don't understand that because it saves a lot of lives.

Speaker 240 My grandkids are older, so they're not really affected. They have their shots.

Speaker 67 I'd be concerned if they were babies.

Speaker 37 A number of measles exposures have been reported here at St. Thomas Elgin General Hospital since the beginning of February.

Speaker 37 Public health officials say other people who visited around the same time need to be aware of these warnings because they can get infected even hours later after the infected person left.

Speaker 43 There are cases right across the country, most in people who aren't vaccinated.

Speaker 37 Because public health officials here don't know when the peak of this measles outbreak will happen, it's full steam ahead to reach out and encourage people to get vaccinated who have not already done so.

Speaker 124 So it sounds to me like people are getting the measles at the hospital.

Speaker 120 It's the measles.

Speaker 63 Oh, people.

Speaker 36 I could do another boomer moment, but we've done that enough about the measles.

Speaker 1 I think you got the boomer thing out of the way.

Speaker 199 Yeah.

Speaker 109 Well, it's never out of my blood.

Speaker 110 Now that I've accepted, I've just accepted the boomerism into my life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you've kind of relaxed into it.

Speaker 152 I have to because, you know, it's like

Speaker 95 I hear people come up to me and say, hey, man, chill out.

Speaker 36 I'm a millennial. No, I'm Gen X.
My kids call me boomer. It's just what it is.

Speaker 169 And then I beat them and take away their allowance.

Speaker 49 Stupid boomer.

Speaker 19 Okay, boomer.

Speaker 117 I'm okay with it now.

Speaker 108 I wear it as a badge of pride.

Speaker 1 I wanted to go back to international stuff here for a second.

Speaker 55 Okay, but I will give you a five-minute warning.

Speaker 1 Oh, thank you. Yeah, let's start with Iran.

Speaker 85 Iran talks.

Speaker 36 Yeah, that is kind of important to talk about.

Speaker 206 Today, the U.S.

Speaker 237 and Iran launched a new effort to negotiate a deal to scale back Iran's nuclear program. In his first term, President Trump pulled the U.S.

Speaker 237 out of an existing nuclear agreement with Iran and now believes he can negotiate a better one. For more, we are joined by NPR National Security Correspondent Greg Myri.

Speaker 20 Hey, Greg.

Speaker 102 Hey, Scott. Hey, Greg.

Speaker 237 Hey, Scott. So, what do we know about this initial round of talks today?

Speaker 30 So, the two sides held talks for more than two hours in Oman's capital, Muscat, and the discussions were mediated by Oman. Now, this was just a get-acquainted session.

Speaker 30 The sides are laying out some basics, a framework for the talks, and we know the key issues here.

Speaker 30 What will the limits be on Iran's nuclear program? And to what extent will Iran get relief from the tough sanctions imposed by the U.S.?

Speaker 30 But the mere fact that they met is certainly something unusual. And the White House called the talks, quote, positive and constructive.

Speaker 30 Iran struck a similar tone, and they agreed to meet again in a week.

Speaker 237 Let's try to sort out one possible gap between the sides. Iran called these indirect talks.
The Trump administration called them direct talks. Which one is it?

Speaker 23 Well, Scott, both, it seems.

Speaker 30 The two sides were physically apart at this Oman government compound, and Oman's foreign minister shuttled between them, so indirect talks.

Speaker 30 But at the end of the session, the leaders of the two delegations met and spoke briefly. We're talking about Steve Witcoff, Trump's Middle East envoy, and Iran's foreign minister, Abbas Agrachi.

Speaker 30 So it was also direct negotiations, or at least something both sides can live with.

Speaker 218 He's characterizing that kind of in an odd way because, from what I understand,

Speaker 73 they write a note, then the Oman guy takes it over to the Iranian guys, hands of the note. They write a note back.

Speaker 85 It's like high school.

Speaker 73 And then he takes it back and then he gives it to Witkoff.

Speaker 36 There are no direct communications. It's all notes being passed back and forth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well.

Speaker 15 Why?

Speaker 1 I have probably some agreement.

Speaker 25 Well, language.

Speaker 1 They can't speak the same language.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. I'm worried.

Speaker 237 Let's rewind a decade, Greg. The U.S.
and Iran reach this nuclear agreement in 2015 under President Obama. Trump comes into office the first time around, says it was a bad deal, polls out in 2018.

Speaker 206 How would this deal be different?

Speaker 30 Yeah, that's the key question. Since Trump was so dismissive of that earlier agreement, he'll want one that he can present as much better.
But the world has changed.

Speaker 30 Iran has now enriched uranium to a much higher level, about 60 percent purity, not quite the level needed for a nuclear weapon, which was around 90 percent purity, but close to it, something they could get to pretty quickly.

Speaker 30 The U.S. will have to win concessions just to get back to the point where we were in 2018 when Trump unilaterally withdrew.

Speaker 170 Meanwhile, Iran is vulnerable right now.

Speaker 30 Its economy is very weak. Its military suffered setbacks last year and missile exchanges with Israel.
So it could be more willing to make compromises.

Speaker 30 Iran says it wants to keep the talks narrowly focused on the nuclear program. Trump and his team have spoken of broader goals, for example, ending Iran's support of proxy groups in the region.

Speaker 237 How do these negotiations with Iran fit with Trump's broader goals in the Middle East right now?

Speaker 30 So Trump has been very clear that he wants to avoid endless conflict in the Middle East. And a nuclear deal with Iran would certainly meet that goal, should certainly ease the tensions.

Speaker 30 But at the same time, Trump has been ramping up U.S. military involvement in the Middle East.
Today, in fact, marks four weeks since the U.S.

Speaker 30 began a daily bombing campaign against the Houthis in Yemen, a group that Iran supports.

Speaker 30 And the presence of an American aircraft carrier in the Red Sea off Yemen and a powerful B-2 bomber on an island in the Indian Ocean, not that far away, is also seen as a warning to nearby Iran.

Speaker 30 Most analysts believe Trump is unlikely to resort to force at this stage.

Speaker 30 They point to these nuclear discussions, but the president keeps warning that if negotiations don't succeed, military force remains an option.

Speaker 10 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 And meanwhile, in Europe, they have this. The clip is the war clip at the bottom of the list.

Speaker 1 Their war meeting in Warsaw.

Speaker 147 EU economic ministers have wrapped up a two-day meeting in Poland focused on how to mobilize more money for defense at a time of economic uncertainty.

Speaker 191 Terry Schultz reports that U.S.

Speaker 192 tariffs on the EU are adding to the bloc's difficulties.

Speaker 60 EU economic and finance ministers met in Warsaw to discuss new ways the bloc is offering to help the 27 member states invest more in their own security.

Speaker 60 These include suspending the penalties governments incur for going into too much debt and offering loans backed by the EU itself as long as the money is spent on defense.

Speaker 60 EU Economy Commissioner Valdes Dombrovska says such investment will pay off in other ways, too.

Speaker 235 Beyond enhancing Europe's security, we expect additional defense spending to also boost competitiveness and economic growth, drive innovation, and create truth.

Speaker 60 Dombrovska says the 25% tariffs on EU steel and aluminum exports that President Trump has left in place will hurt the U.S. more than the EU.

Speaker 29 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 160 Of course.

Speaker 49 Of course it'll hurt the U.S. more.

Speaker 1 So they're going to go into debt for war.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Heaven forbid you go into debt to save, you know, to feed people.

Speaker 13 From what I understand, 10 billion of it they want to take out of the public coffers, like pensions.

Speaker 25 Don't worry about it. I didn't know that.

Speaker 54 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 90 We're going to invest it in the war economy.

Speaker 58 It's going to be great.

Speaker 218 Now, typically, war economy is good.

Speaker 176 You know, you get people back into factories, you know, get back into Volkswagen and the Audi factories.

Speaker 85 But yeah,

Speaker 151 you'll saddle your children up with debt.

Speaker 25 We know how that works.

Speaker 25 Yeah,

Speaker 144 it adds up.

Speaker 36 I'm still very concerned about Germany and France, particularly Macron.

Speaker 94 I mean, I'm going to have, hopefully, I'll have a bit of an expose

Speaker 218 about Macron being the true Antichrist.

Speaker 133 I'm working on it.

Speaker 1 He's a loser as an Antichrist, let me tell you.

Speaker 11 I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.

Speaker 81 Imagine all the people who could do this.

Speaker 102 Oh, yeah, that'd

Speaker 144 Yes, well, in general, the Antichrist is not supposed to be the winner.

Speaker 1 I think Lady Gaga's got a better shot at it.

Speaker 144 She's just one of Satan's helpers.

Speaker 91 That's a different, different deal.

Speaker 64 We have end-of-show mixes, meetups, including a meeter report, and several knights and dames.

Speaker 96 It's been a very good day for the roundtable.

Speaker 103 So, lots of tasty goods for everybody who is hanging out with us and of course john's tip of the day but first we are going to thank the rest of our producers who supported us with some treasure 50 and above

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Speaker 217 They're for knights and for dames. They are signet rings.

Speaker 98 So when you give us your address and ring size, which is available to measure on the website, send it to us and we'll send you the ring along with a stick of wax, actually, two sticks of wax, which you can use to seal your important correspondence with the signet ring and a certificate of authenticity.

Speaker 95 And once again, welcome to the roundtable of the No Agenda Knights and Dames, and congratulations.

Speaker 95 Yeah, but wait, the fun doesn't stop there.

Speaker 151 We've got the No Agenda meetups.

Speaker 12 These are producer-organized gatherings.

Speaker 73 You can find that all at noagendametups.com. We love it when you send in a report.

Speaker 83 Here's one from Fort Wayne.

Speaker 241 Adam and John, this is Shannon Fort Wayne. We had a decent gathering today.
We had a lot of like-minded folks. Happy birthday, JCD.
Sir, PBR Street Gang.

Speaker 241 In the morning, John and Adam, for some reason, I've developed a list, and I don't know what's from.

Speaker 242 In the morning, Dame Trinity having a great time in Fort Wayne. Looking forward to tomorrow in Indy.

Speaker 241 These end of show tips are worth their weight in gold. My first wife I've met at a squared end shindig.
The next one I met at a sock hop.

Speaker 73 Bingo, boom, shagalaga.

Speaker 23 Were you telling people is it tip of the day to meet their wives at a sock up?

Speaker 58 I don't think so.

Speaker 140 We got a couple of meetups taking place today.

Speaker 117 Well underway in Toronto is the Granite Brewery, the Must Be High 16 meetup.

Speaker 130 The Indy No Agenda Rainstick Stirred Not Shaken meetup is underway at the Blind Owl Brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Speaker 135 That's always a big one.

Speaker 81 They will send in a cool meetup report.

Speaker 73 Remember to include your servers in these meetup reports.

Speaker 176 You love hearing them and it helps spread good cheer.

Speaker 130 We have the 2minieggs.com Keene New Hampshire meetup, which is also underway.

Speaker 173 Margarita's Mexican Restaurant, Keene, New Hampshire.

Speaker 20 You can still get there on time.

Speaker 35 We have the Tax Day Hangover Meetup.

Speaker 36 That'll be on Thursday.

Speaker 175 That's after Tax Day, Tuesdays after Tax Day.

Speaker 116 6:30 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado.

Speaker 140 Charlotte's Thursday, 3rd Thursday monthly meetup, 7 o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Speaker 81 And the final one on Thursday, the the 5th Amygdala checkup, 7.33 borrowed Amsterdam time, locale Schesteinfeiftuch in Leiden, the Netherlands.

Speaker 78 Go to a meetup at least once.

Speaker 144 I guarantee you, if you go once, it won't be your last time.

Speaker 133 They're a lot of fun.

Speaker 95 You will have a lot of things in common.

Speaker 176 And it is the connection that you get there that gives you protection.

Speaker 95 They are your first responders in an emergency.

Speaker 132 So many telegram groups and text message groups and everybody likes to hang out.

Speaker 223 And you'll meet some people, maybe even your future knight or dame.

Speaker 23 Noagendameetups.com.

Speaker 78 That's the calendar we can go and find one.

Speaker 130 And if you can't find one there near you, you can start one yourself.

Speaker 12 It's easy and always a party.

Speaker 12 Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

Speaker 12 You to be where you won't be triggered or hell lame.

Speaker 12 You to be where everybody feels the same.

Speaker 12 It's like a party. I love my truck and I love what I do.

Speaker 82 Yeah, I discovered the

Speaker 83 mystery uh-oh ISO, which we couldn't find.

Speaker 218 I didn't know what they were talking about in the last show.

Speaker 90 Yeah, that's actually your noisemaker.

Speaker 83 It has uh-oh.

Speaker 154 Oh, the oh oh.

Speaker 201 Yeah, you have it.

Speaker 20 Where is your uh-oh?

Speaker 159 Play it.

Speaker 25 Uh-oh. Yeah, that one.
That's exactly it.

Speaker 128 People think that's like I'm starting some jingle or something.

Speaker 25 No, that's you. That's all you.

Speaker 52 It's all you.

Speaker 90 All right, I see that you once again have a slew of ISOs, probably all

Speaker 200 AI-made.

Speaker 99 Why don't we start with yours? Because I'm so tired of going first.

Speaker 128 What do you have?

Speaker 92 Well, I'm always going first.

Speaker 66 You go first today.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's start at the top with Dag.

Speaker 125 Dag Nabitt, another winner of a show.

Speaker 52 Yeah, that's not bad.

Speaker 168 Although, I'm tired of Carl as Carl.

Speaker 20 Carl. What else?

Speaker 1 What else you got?

Speaker 60 Flash. Wow, that made me want to flash the hosts.

Speaker 124 You're running out of ideas, John.

Speaker 25 Okay.

Speaker 1 I have some lewd ones I never put on. Yeah.

Speaker 132 And what's your last one?

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 147 What? It's already over?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 25 well, let me see.

Speaker 81 I have some real ones, you know, like OG, like, actually did some work.

Speaker 204 Be awesome.

Speaker 25 Yeah, how about that?

Speaker 204 Be awesome. Huh? No good?

Speaker 25 Oh, God. No good.
You're a boomer.

Speaker 82 Yeah, this I think I actually have a winner here.

Speaker 121 We live in an era where podcasters have a lot of power.

Speaker 199 Come on, man. That's a good one.

Speaker 114 That's a good one.

Speaker 15 I care for it.

Speaker 121 We live in an era where podcasters have a lot of power.

Speaker 107 I could just start there.

Speaker 175 I could just say here.

Speaker 121 It's like podcasters have a lot of power. Could start there.

Speaker 199 No? Guess not.

Speaker 1 Okay, if you want to do that, I'll let you have it.

Speaker 121 Podcasters have a lot of power.

Speaker 25 We do.

Speaker 74 Tons of power.

Speaker 179 And And now, everybody, the power will be shown to you and John's tip of the day.

Speaker 225 We all love it.

Speaker 100 Create advice for you and me.

Speaker 126 Just the tip with JCD.

Speaker 126 And sometimes at all.

Speaker 10 Creative identity.

Speaker 1 First of all, we have to do a clarification on the last. This is happening more and more.
Uh-oh. Your tip is no good.

Speaker 50 Why? Your tips are always good. What's wrong with your tips?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 people make a good point because of the it wouldn't have probably come up if I hadn't have mentioned the tethering issue.

Speaker 1 The little bitty one that has a little spring-loaded breaker on it, it's a very which is one of the uh we're talking about the window breaker.

Speaker 139 Oh, yes, the orange thing that cuts the seatbelt and breaks the window.

Speaker 1 Yes, yeah, there is a uh there's a version

Speaker 1 that is not a hammer, but a spring, excuse me, a spring-loaded uh little thing.

Speaker 1 I have one guy, two guys have said they prefer this because it's on the keychain.

Speaker 1 So when your car flips over, whatever happens, you can always get to the key fob. Because it's in the ignition.

Speaker 1 Although with newer cars,

Speaker 1 they're not in the ignition, so it doesn't work with new cars.

Speaker 1 But it's beside the point.

Speaker 1 One guy says that he has taken this thing and taken it to junkyards and tested it

Speaker 1 on glass.

Speaker 1 Now I'm tempted to call a few junkyards up and ask if I can do this and tried it and it does break the glass. So well, surprise.
Interesting. Surprise, surprise.

Speaker 80 You know,

Speaker 95 there's a device that I've seen thieves use on YouTube, and it's like a handheld device, like a pen, and you hold it up against the window,

Speaker 95 and it just shoots a little tip out, and it breaks it.

Speaker 144 That would be something you could actually just slip in your pocket.

Speaker 218 Have you seen those?

Speaker 1 No, I haven't, but this is a very similar device. Only it's

Speaker 1 not a pin.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Whatever the case, people should definitely have some device or other.
Now, we have another one that's going to create the same

Speaker 66 controversy. Controversy.

Speaker 1 And I've been carrying one of these around for, I don't know, five or six years. I noticed that when...

Speaker 46 A switchblade.

Speaker 17 You don't carry around a switchblade?

Speaker 52 I'm going to cut you.

Speaker 83 I'm going to cut you.

Speaker 1 And I noticed that when I drove the big uh fire engine you brought up earlier at the Brunetti ranch it was you know he had to have one bring one of these out to start the thing this is the solid state battery charger

Speaker 1 and battery replacement this is a solid state battery a jump starter you can buy these you look up

Speaker 1 I would say jump solid state jump starter you look it up on Amazon unfortunately nowadays there are so many of these things including the one I have that they don't even even have on the list anymore.

Speaker 1 But these things are small.

Speaker 1 You want to get something that's got 2,500 to 4,000 amps if you can get it. 4,000 amps is good.

Speaker 1 They're very simple. You hook it to the battery, and usually they have a boost mode.
If it won't start, usually you can start it right away. You hook it up, and then you start the car.

Speaker 1 If you have a dead battery, it's handy when your battery goes dead. And you can start the car.
And then if it won't start the car, you can push the boost button and you get like another, you know, 20

Speaker 1 or 22,000 amps. You get a boost.
A lot of amps. Boosts.

Speaker 1 And these things are also interesting because they'll probably start the car five to seven times before they need recharging.

Speaker 1 And they also have outputs for like if you want to plug your phone into it.

Speaker 1 It'll have enough juice to charge your phone for the next five years.

Speaker 1 So So they're very handy, but there's a bunch of them now. There's like, I'd say, and they're all pretty much made by the two or three companies in China.
This is another Chinese product.

Speaker 1 You probably should get it while you can. Yeah.

Speaker 117 It might cost $40.

Speaker 25 Woo!

Speaker 1 There's some that are pretty cheap.

Speaker 25 Does it have semiconductors?

Speaker 97 Does it have any semiconductors in there?

Speaker 12 Because that could be exempt.

Speaker 1 So it has to have, or otherwise you can't get that kind of power out.

Speaker 20 It has to exempt.

Speaker 1 It should be exempt now that you mention it, based on what Lutnik said. But whatever the case is, check these out.
There's a lot of them.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to, you know, you want a couple of things to look for.

Speaker 1 You want to have a lot of amps for the price because there's low amps that cost too much and there's high amps that are cheap.

Speaker 1 And then you want to make sure that has a booster mode so it just gives it the full juice. It pretty much drains the thing.
And

Speaker 1 it should have some outputs, some USB outputs for charging miscellaneous products. Fabulous thing.
Everyone should have one of these batteries.

Speaker 1 Jay's got one. I've got one.
Everybody, you know, people should have these.

Speaker 129 Everybody needs one. You need one.
It's important.

Speaker 1 Boost, boost, boost.

Speaker 232 Get your booster. Boost mode, everybody.
That is tipofeday.net to review all the tips of the day.

Speaker 126 Great advice for you and me. Just a tip with JCD.

Speaker 126 And sometimes add-on.

Speaker 30 Created by Dana Birdetti.

Speaker 199 All right.

Speaker 216 More Chinese junk in the tip of the day.

Speaker 105 It's amazing.

Speaker 117 How about an American product next time?

Speaker 117 Good old-fashioned American product.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 86 Something made in America.

Speaker 170 You know.

Speaker 106 Because,

Speaker 14 you know, China no good. The asshole.

Speaker 49 Can't trust them.

Speaker 232 Hey, everybody, that is it.

Speaker 44 It's the end of our broadcast day.

Speaker 25 You've gotten your money's worth for sure.

Speaker 116 We've taken it all the way up to three and a half hours, but we're happy to do it. We like deconstructing the media.

Speaker 75 We like showing you the absurdity of the absurd, where you can always experience the unexpected on the No Agenda Show.

Speaker 178 End of show mixes, Jesse Coyne Nelson and brand new from David Kecta, who doesn't know him.

Speaker 217 And right after we're done, oh, it is episode 129 of Curry and the Keeper.

Speaker 139 Yes, I make fun of Tina and the stuff she wears at night when she goes to bed.

Speaker 48 You don't want to miss that one.

Speaker 179 Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country.

Speaker 44 In Pitcher Arse, Fredericksburg, Texas.

Speaker 22 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 1 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.

Speaker 130 We return on Thursday.

Speaker 73 Join us here for more No Agenda.

Speaker 36 Remember, please remember us at Noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 4 Until that time, adios movos, a hooey-hooey,

Speaker 4 and such.

Speaker 1 Even just today,

Speaker 243 a missile was sent in, probably by Russia,

Speaker 243 probably by Russia,

Speaker 243 probably by Russia, to Poland,

Speaker 244 to Poland,

Speaker 244 To Poland.

Speaker 243 50 miles into Poland.

Speaker 244 And people are going absolutely wild increasing.

Speaker 158 Wild increasing.

Speaker 244 Wild increase.

Speaker 38 We've gotta get out of this gang.

Speaker 8 No!

Speaker 8 BASS TINKS!

Speaker 244 WILL increasing.

Speaker 8 BASS TINKS!

Speaker 205 Election denier from that wing of the party.

Speaker 163 What how are you reading these tea leaves?

Speaker 243 Probably by Russia. Probably by Russia.

Speaker 158 We've cocked it out in the stage.

Speaker 175 Definitely not a Republican wave, that's for darn sure.

Speaker 91 Darn sure.

Speaker 108 Darn sure.

Speaker 91 Darn sure.

Speaker 243 Even just today, a missile was sent in probably by Russia to Poland, 50 miles into Poland, and people are going absolutely wild and crazy.

Speaker 243 I think people would rather buy an iPhone.

Speaker 243 I just want to get out of the past talks.

Speaker 243 First thing you ought to do is get all these folks who've got these workouts here and we've negotiated over the years to say, fellas, we'll take some day we date here.

Speaker 243 And they'll get locked right at that point. Because, for example, we've got international competitors who simply could not unload their cars off the ships.

Speaker 5 If they had to comply, you see if it was a two-way street, just couldn't do it.

Speaker 245 We have got to stop sending jobs overseas.

Speaker 245 To those of you in the audience who are business people,

Speaker 245 pretty simple. You're paying $12, $13, $14 an hour for factory worker.

Speaker 245 And you can move your factory south to the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor, hire a young 25, let's assume you've been in business for a long time, you've got a mature workforce.

Speaker 30 Pay a dollar an hour for your labor.

Speaker 245 Have no health care. That's the most expensive single element making the car,

Speaker 245 have no environmental controls, no pollution controls, and no retirement,

Speaker 126 and you don't care about anything but making money. There will be a job sucking sound going south.

Speaker 126 You gotta look to China.

Speaker 126 The best podcast in the universe.

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Speaker 121 podcasters have a lot of power.