1755 - "Rat Poop"

Your tip is no good.

Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Sunday, April 13th, 2025.

This is your award-winning Game Bon Nation Media Assassination episode 1755.

This is no agenda.

Cutting through the chaos and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas home country here in FEMA region number six.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we've noticed that 4:20 and Easter are the same day.

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

It's Crackbot and Buzzkill in the morning.

Yes.

Yes.

Donors around the world have noticed that.

I'm curious why you noticed it.

I noticed it because I was, I just noticed it.

It's just

unusual for me because it's usually you notice it after the show.

Yes, this is true.

After the donation opportunity was

gone.

Well, today is Palm Sunday, though.

It's a good start.

I guess.

Yes.

How come Ash?

I thought Ash Wednesday.

Oh, I don't even get to get into it.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

You did mention chaos.

I have the super clip.

Oh, we both have the super clip.

Well, how long is your super clip?

Mine is 52 seconds.

Oh, I guess we have the same super clip.

But I have a follow-up clip.

Well, let me hit you with the super clip.

Hit me with your super clip, baby.

We begin this hour with the chaos.

The average American sees chaos.

The American people see chaos.

It's total chaos.

You brought chaos.

It's just complete chaos.

Unleashed in economic chaos.

They unleash chaos.

They are creating chaos.

This chaos.

Oh, there's too much chaos.

Total chaos.

And amidst the chaos.

I'm going to see chaos.

After seeing all the chaos, the chaos is unleashed on America.

Continue to see the chaos.

Economic chaos.

A lot more chaos.

Trump's chaos.

This is chaos.

With such chaos.

The chaos.

Because of this chaos.

Chaos.

All of this chaos.

Uncertainty and chaos.

And all that chaos.

When it's chaos.

All the chaos.

Chaos and confusion grow.

More chaos, dysfunction.

The chaos is the purpose.

The chaos is the goal.

It's chaos.

Based upon that super clip, I would say this was probably launched by Schumer.

He probably said, all right, everybody, we're going for chaos.

Schumer seems to be the guy behind much of this.

Yes.

Yes.

I was just going to to say I had the one additional clip, which is to prove that NPR is on board with the Democrat industrial complex.

Here is part of the teaser for one of your favorite shows and one of your favorite hosts on the media.

Oh, yes.

With Brooke, with Brooke Gladstone.

With Brooke, your buddy Brooke Gladstone.

And

here's her teaser.

I'm looking for where the clips are.

There's a lot going on right now.

Mounting economic inequality, threats to democracy, environmental disaster, the sour stench of chaos in the air.

You know,

stench of chaos.

That's a good one.

We've had, there have been many chaos.

I'm looking if we see any other

chaos superclips.

I think they toyed with it before.

They were going with the threat to democracy.

Well, they had chaos and confusion.

That was

February.

Let's just check that.

Tonight, confusion and chaos is spreading within a number of agencies across the federal government.

Tonight, chaos and confusion across the federal government.

This morning, chaos and confusion across the federal government.

Okay, guys, listen.

It's Chuck.

Okay, chaos and confusion.

Wait, wait.

Simplify the message.

It didn't work.

The alliteration was good, but it was just too much.

You're right.

Thank you very much, John, for that input here on the Zoom Zoom call.

We're going for chaos, everybody.

Is it good?

We're going for chaos.

Everyone got it.

Chaos?

Chaos.

Going for chaos.

Simplify the message.

Chaos and confusion was too much.

It was too complicated.

The American people could not figure it out.

They couldn't parrot it.

We didn't do a good job.

Didn't do a good job.

Ah, man.

Well, interesting.

What is this?

Well, chaos.

It's just good.

It's good.

And I can see

where they tried to make this.

I mean, first of all, no one cares anymore.

People just don't care.

They don't care about the...

I have concluded.

I'll restate what I said on the last show.

Yes, this feels like

we're in COVID.

Everyone's responding the same way.

As I was pondering this, I thought, oh, you are.

I was pondering.

I sat at home drinking my schnapps, pondering, smoking my pipe, pondering, what is really going on here?

Hmm, rubbing my chin.

And I said to myself, ah, of course, this is just a reignition.

We have never gotten over the cultural trauma of COVID.

That is still lingering.

These things don't go away within a couple of years for us, John, you and I, perhaps.

But

I think that this is something you can reignite over and over again.

But they have to use different words.

Chaos is not the right word if you want to really trigger that COVID cultural trauma.

I'm not quite sure what it is, but you've got to use something.

I think they could trigger it on a dime if they had the right mechanism.

Well, that's an interesting thesis.

I'm not going to, it's like...

You're not going to argue it?

I'm not going to argue it.

Thank you.

That means I'm right.

Well, you would definitely be right if they could come up with

what you're looking for, which is the term, the triggering moment, the one thing.

I haven't, you know,

I can't think of anything.

Somebody might come up with something that just you start saying it over and over again and everyone just goes back to COVID.

Well, how can we use the word pandemic in a different manner?

Can we say

economic pandemic?

Maybe?

I think pandemic

is part of the problem.

That has to go.

Oh, that's no good.

That's what I'm just thinking.

It's like been beat up.

Yeah.

I mean, with the, you know, it's this, you gotta have something that, I don't know.

It's a great idea if you could come up with a useful thing.

Virus, virus, virus.

Can we use virus somehow?

Trump is a virus.

No, that doesn't work.

We'll think about it.

I think they're dead in the water with this.

Oh, with the chaos, it's no good.

No, it's no good.

Well, no, with all of it, I don't think they're pulling anything off.

Maybe you just say the economic

the economic downturn is spreading like a pandemic.

I mean, maybe it can be longer, perhaps.

I don't think, no, they've already proven they can't deal with longer.

You have to be

simple.

Because the people don't get it.

They don't understand.

It's chaos, people.

Don't you see it's chaos?

Well, adding to the chaos, and we might as well address this right off the bat, was this very bad day in aviation in New York in the Hudson River with the helicopter.

Yeah, but you reported in real time.

I did.

Oh, yes, I did.

Yes, you did.

That's right.

But we didn't know exactly.

We hadn't seen all the video.

Now we've got just amazing how much video we have, which is on one hand very helpful.

On the other hand, not helpful.

There seems to be a consensus among news experts, aviation news station experts, that, oh, this is mass bumping, mass bumping.

It's got to be mass bumping.

It sounds cool because people are like, well, what's mass bumping?

I've never heard of mass bumping.

Is it like clam bumping?

No, it's mass bumping.

It's something completely different.

So I'll explain mass bumping and why I think this is not it.

Although the results of what you saw with the tail rotor coming off, with the half of the tail boom,

and

the main, not just rotor, but the whole gear separating from the aircraft.

Mass bumping first came to play with helicopters in Vietnam, with the big UH-1s, the UEs, where you'd be flying nape of the earth, as they call it.

So flying very low.

You go, there's a little hill in front of you.

You pull back

on the cyclic, on the stick, you pull back, you go up.

You get to the top of the hill, you push it forward.

Now, at that point, the helicopter, which typically is hanging underneath this rotor disc,

that's what the rotor blades create a disc, and you're hanging underneath it.

At that point, you have negative G force.

So these blades, which are intended to flap up and down, they will actually flap so far down because of the lack of weight of the helicopter in negative G, that it can strike the boom.

They called it mass bumping because typically, on those you wouldn't necessarily chop off the tail.

You would bump it.

It'd be like,

but in helicopters with this type of dual blade semi-articulate rotor head design, it can't happen.

Robinson's 2244, notorious for it.

They're also relatively cheap helicopters and, in my opinion, kind of death traps.

I don't like the 22 at all.

The bell is not something that happens very often.

You'd have to really go back in history to find a mass bumping where it chopped off the tail boom.

And there was also no evidence of a negative G force.

There was no ascent or descent of the helicopter from the video I could see.

So that would mean it would have had to be in turbulence.

There was no real turbulence reported.

So to me, it looks like this was some catastrophic failure with

the tail rotor assembly.

That just, I mean, it looked like the, I mean, it just snapped off almost.

And then once that Chinese parts,

cheap Chinese parts.

That is something I was thinking of.

These are refurbished helicopters.

That's possible.

It feels like a maintenance issue.

There's this report which did bring up something else which would be possible.

New video obtained by ABC News showing that doomed sightseeing helicopter twisting in the air before breaking apart and dropping out of the sky.

Federal safety investigators now pouring over the wreckage and the Army Corps of Engineers helping salvage pieces still in the water.

And tonight, the NTSB is investigating reports reports of a large flock of birds in the area and is appealing to the public for help.

A 17-minute flight ending in unspeakable tragedy for the family of five from Spain that was on board.

Augustin Escobar and his wife Mercy, both executives at global tech company Siemens, along with their three children, ages four, eight, and ten, today would have been the middle child's ninth birthday.

The pilot, 36-year-old Sean Johnson, a Navy veteran, posting this video on Facebook two weeks ago, showing himself flying over Manhattan.

The NTSB says he had 788 hours of flight time, but investigators still calculating how much time he had spent in that particular helicopter.

The operator, New York Helicopter Tours, has a good safety record.

It flies hundreds of flights each week.

Yeah, so no

view of any bird strike is possible.

You know, the video was not really clear enough.

But if you have, if it's mass bumping, you probably see the aircraft start to rotate a little bit more than it did.

And also, you probably wouldn't see the entire gearbox fly.

I mean, it wasn't just the rotor that flew off, the rotor, the whole gearbox.

I'm telling you, cheap Chinese parts.

You may be right.

That is the only, it's got to be a maintenance issue.

I believe this aircraft was refurbished

a year or like 18 months ago.

It's possible.

You know, it's a bad day.

Let's go.

Let's go meta.

Let's go meta.

All right.

It's not cheap Chinese parts.

It was set up to fail so you could blame cheap Chinese parts as part of the negotiation.

Well, why kill a family?

CIA operator.

They didn't like Siemens.

Don't kill a family.

This is no good.

But you

don't care.

Cheap Chinese.

They brought down into the, but they brought that flight with that Russian dude in it.

He just brought that whole, whatever plane it was, a Yuliet Evich or whatever the hell it was.

The Russians took down a whole flight?

Yeah.

Well, that's the Russians.

Oh, yeah.

But counterfeit.

We would never do that.

Counterfeit cheap parts from China.

Yes.

And that would be a good message to have

at this point in this chaotic moment.

It would be a good message to have.

It will take

probably, I'm guessing, because you just don't bring it right up as though you have it at your fingertips, this information.

So there has to be a phony baloney investigation,

which means that they will take about a week and they'll find cheap Chinese parts at the maintenance place, which would have been part of the

so once they start looking into the parts is when they're going to find the cheap Chinese knockoffs.

Well, we got cheap Chinese parts in our military equipment.

I mean, we know that for a fact.

So why wouldn't it be this?

Cheap phony bolts, you know, bolts that are not SAE.

Yeah.

What is that, S-A-E?

SA certification engine.

There's a standard for bolts.

You know, they test it.

They take the bolt and then they twist it until it breaks.

Real bolts made properly will

take a lot more torque than a cheap phony bolt.

I will say this is one of...

So I have not flown a helicopter in over 10 years.

as a pilot or a passenger because if I don't know who is maintaining it, I just won't get into it.

Otherwise, I find them to be very safe.

I would say I prefer a fully rigid rotorhead design, which would be your Augusta, your Sikorsky, or your Enstrom.

For this very reason,

I just don't like that stuff flapping around.

But I've flown them.

I've flown a lot of them.

So this is a bad day.

Bad day for the family, of course, but bad day for aviation.

Everyone's,

no good.

Don't get in a helicopter.

I'll never get in a helicopter.

Never, ever, ever.

Well, that goes along with all these crazy stories coming out of American Airlines.

What's that?

Well, people stripping on the, you know, having fights on the planes.

Benefits.

Stripping.

That's in-flight entertainment.

What are you talking about?

That's fun.

People are going nuts.

They are.

There's a lot of.

What was

this story?

They haven't done this in the past, but it just seems to be worse.

Have you heard this story?

This morning, newly unsealed court documents allege this Wisconsin teenager, Nikita Kassap, killed his parents as part of a larger plot to assassinate the president and attempt to overthrow the U.S.

government.

Kassop's mother, Tatiana, and stepfather, Donald Mayer, were found shot and killed in their Waukesha home during a welfare check in late February.

The body was

appeared to have been deceased for some time, was unable to definitively identify who it was.

Investigators say the 17-year-old Kassap killed them to obtain the financial means and autonomy necessary to carry out his plan.

Officials add they found material on the suspect's phone related to a neo-Nazi group described by the FBI as a satanic cult.

They also say they discovered a three-page document allegedly written by Kassop calling for the start of a revolution to, quote, save the white race.

The documents allege Kassop paid, at least in part, for a drone and explosives, and that other parties knew of Kassap's plan, adding some even offered advice and assistance.

Kassop was arrested in Kansas after police say he drove through a stop sign in his parents' car.

I'm wondering that, you know, some knew of it, offering assistance.

I wonder if we're going to hear that FBI might have had this kid on their radar.

It is a six-week cycle period.

Although, man, killing your parents and then hiding them, stuffing them in the closet until they decompose, that's that's pretty deranged.

And then getting caught in Kansas.

I mean, this kid is

a lunatic.

Maybe the kid went to Coachella and saw that Lady Gaga show.

Holy mackerel.

I said yes.

Holy mackerel.

You know, she's worried.

The various sets she use are all satanic, including, and the one with the Baphomet

hat.

Yeah.

What was she trying to do?

What is she doing?

Well, she's calling out the dark forces of Satan, obviously.

For what?

What does she need the dark forces of Satan for?

Is her sales down that much?

Does she need more

accolades?

I mean, what is she looking for?

Is she trying to get more, another

Tony Grammy, or whatever she wants to do?

Well, no.

I think this is just

the other part of the deal.

No, you.

Is this part of the deal?

She has to do this now,

yes.

And forever?

Well, Madonna's still doing it.

She's doing the same stuff.

And she's starting to look like it, too.

She looks like the devil.

And she looks like hell.

But I love the Cavalier reporting by the SF Gate tech reporter, Stephen Counsel,

who was just saying, oh, it's great.

And then she went into this just great rendition of that.

And it was great.

Oh, and it's so awesome during the Abrica Endeavor.

The journalists in the San Francisco Bay Area are oblivious to Satanism.

Do they not see what's going on?

They can't know they can't see it.

But it was a triumph of artistic teamwork and care and of joint catharsis.

Gaga knows the basic truths that concerts are fun if everyone's dancing and that choruses sound excellent when thousands of voices yell every word.

Satan!

That construct, basic hit laden, is in her wheelhouse ten times out of ten.

But it wouldn't have been enough if she gave Coachella more, and we're lucky to have seen it i am lucky to have and you do you see the crowd

they were lunatics

yeah it's cotella man

no coachella

yeah

this at this point it's just i mean it was almost a throwback to you know five or you know ten yeah five years ago now she just brought it back with a vengeance dark forces very dark it's dark this lady Very, very dark.

Yeah,

I mean, I'm not even, I wouldn't call myself a religious type like you.

I'm a Jesus.

But I can see it a mile away.

It's like, what doesn't take a genius when you're wearing a bathlemette headdress?

Let me come out.

Just kind of a giveaway, Lady Gaga, just a little bit of a giveaway.

Like, holy mackerel, what are you doing?

It wasn't even close to trying to cover it up.

It wasn't.

It was just wow.

It was wow.

So let's talk about the chaos for a second because I will have to say that there is some

level of, well, actually, let's go to the one of the progenitors of the chaos meme.

She's in the Supercut several times, and she kept bringing it up during this

interview on ABC with Jonathan Carl.

These are all the Sunday shows.

Thank you, Brother Steve Jones of the Jones Cartel for doing these.

He sends them to me like, you know, half an hour before showtime, so I can just listen to him.

Here she is about the chaos, the tariff craziness.

We had this exemption on all electronics, and he said that the reason is because they're going to impose new tariffs in the coming months.

What do you sense?

What's going on here?

What's going on?

Look, there is no tariff policy.

Look, it's just all chaos and corruption.

No,

hold on.

Do you hear that she's back to the old meme?

Chaos and corruption.

Yeah, she went back to chaos and corruption.

Yeah, Liz, this is Chuck.

We already decided we would keep it just a chaos.

Please don't bring back the chaos and corruption.

It doesn't work.

You're talking too fast for Schumer.

Yeah, well,

I'm trying to get back to the clip.

It's a tariff policy.

It's just all chaos and corruption.

That's all we have going on.

What's the evidence for corruption, by the way?

I'd like to know.

What is the corruption?

What's the part of it?

I don't get it.

And how can you believe any of these guys?

What did Donald Trump tweet about?

Oh, I'm sorry.

It was chaos and confusion.

She's.

She's made it even worse.

You know, she is freelancing.

She's freelancing.

You have to remember that Elizabeth Warren was an inch away of almost becoming president.

when Hillary was running the first time

around.

Because Elizabeth Warren was seen because she was an an up-and-comer.

She was a superstar.

And then she's, I don't know what happened to her.

She's not even close to being what she was then.

She's just an old, crazy old lady.

I know what happened is when she said to her husband, you want to be here?

That's when everybody went, no, no, no, you're good.

You stay in your cocoon, Liz.

All right, back to chaos and corruption.

There is no tariff policy.

It's just all chaos and corruption.

That's all we have going on.

And how can you believe any of these guys?

What did Donald Trump tweet out all in caps?

I will not back down.

How many hours was that?

24 hours, 30 hours before he turned around and backed down.

They talk about an emergency.

They've got a 10% tariff on basically every country in the world, everywhere.

What's the emergency that we have with Belgium or the emergency we have with South Korea?

So, look, these guys are into chaos and into corruption.

They're into it.

Like Baphomet, they're into chaos and corruption.

And this is the reason that it is time for Congress to step up and to say, under the authority that the president is currently using by declaring these national emergencies, no.

The law says specifically Congress can just say, there's no national emergency across the board here and revoke that authority from the president.

That will mean we can go back to having actually a real tariff policy.

Congress will have its position in place and then we can negotiate where we need to negotiate.

But we got to stop this craziness.

It's really crazy.

It's really a cold day in hell when Elizabeth Warren and Rand Paul agree with each other.

Because that's what this is about.

This is about, oh, we got to take it back.

Only Congress.

And by the way, they're senators.

But okay.

The House of Representatives.

isn't it just the House that has the power of the person?

The House is the first strings, yeah.

But Rand Paul is on this too.

He's like, oh, whatever happens, we got to stop it here.

Instead of, I don't know,

take a risk, man.

Help pass the tax cut for everybody.

I understand that you want to effectively repeal, if I have it right, the 1977 law that they're using to justify this.

No, no, no.

No.

It's

going to use

the law.

Yeah.

That's right.

And use the part that says, no, when the president declares an emergency, it is then up to Congress to say, okay, by standing by, or to say, no, there is not the kind of emergency that you have declared.

I want us to follow the law.

Very rich from someone who always voted yes for war without actually voting on it.

Just, ah, president says war, let's do it.

It's fine.

When's the last time we had

an actual resolution to go to war?

Was that?

World War II.

I think that was, I don't think we had one sense.

Okay, so, but, but that law does not mention the power to tariff.

And as you heard me also ask the Secretary of Commerce.

Now it kind of makes sense that they wanted everybody to hear the words.

No, tariff is a tax.

It's a tax.

Tariff is a tax.

It's a tax.

It's just a tax.

It's a tax on the people.

Tariff is a tax.

It's a tax on the people.

The Constitution itself makes it clear that the power to impose duties, tariffs, duties, lies with Congress.

There's also a constitutional challenge here.

Do you think the courts are going to step in here?

We don't want that to happen.

The courts may step in here, but we don't have to wait for the courts to step in here.

Look,

every Democrat is ready to go to push back and take away from the president the power he's now exercising and the chaos he's now creating.

The question is whether or not the Republicans will join us in this.

There will be a vote in about 15 days.

And the Republicans can either decide that their entire job is to-hyperventilating.

You know what?

That's what makes it interesting to listen to.

Nothing but the.

You know, another thing is,

where is this chaos?

In her mind.

It's in her brain.

Well, if you just say chaos a lot on television and it gets through to social media, then people, wow, man.

Did you hear about the chaos?

Yeah, I heard about some chaos.

There's a lot of chaos going on.

They're drumming it up.

They're ginning it up.

That their entire job is to do nothing but bow down to Donald Trump or the Republicans in Congress can say that their job is to stand up for the American people and to stand up for the American economy.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I have one more clip and then we'll be done with her.

So where do Democrats stand on this fundamental issue?

Tariffs, good or bad?

Well, I think that.

Whoa, hold on.

oh trick question

the democrat we have to just as a little background for everybody out there yes traditionally yes they've been all for it the democrats have the democrats versus the republicans the democrats have always been for heavy-duty tariffs for both economic reasons and protectionist reasons the republicans have traditionally always been dead set against all tariffs yes and they want free trade and so

we could dig up clips.

We don't have them handy.

At least I don't have to.

Hillary Clinton, Obama, Hillary Clinton,

Schumer, Bill Clinton, Schumer, all of them.

All of them.

All of them.

Obama.

Warren Buffett in 2007.

Everybody.

Everybody is going to be.

On and on and on about how we need to tariff, especially China.

So this is a trick question.

And of course, because Trump is now on the Democrat side of the argument, oh, now we got to switch side.

We can't have it.

Yeah, I love her little pause here.

Here we go.

So

you shouldn't ask me that, Carl.

I think Democrats are entirely united that Donald Trump's across-the-board tariffs are bad.

They make no economic sense.

No economic sense.

But that doesn't mean there aren't specific cases where tariffs make a lot of sense.

If you have a plan in mind, a goal in mind, tariffs can be a tool in the economic toolbox.

So she is now on board with the, okay,

tariffs, yes, but I don't like how he's doing it.

It's chaotic.

But remember the underline here.

And I think you're right to focus on prices and costs.

What did Donald Trump say on day one?

He said on day one, he would lower prices.

That's what he ran on.

Once he got elected, his first interview, he said the reason he won is because he said on day one, he would lower prices.

He's six weeks in when someone points out to him that the tariff policy he's pursuing is likely to raise prices.

Listen to this false argument.

What do you call that?

False equivalency.

The prices of

mainly gasoline have come down dramatically.

Yeah.

A dollar for me, a dollar.

It's noticeable.

And even eggs.

Egg prices.

That's why you don't have many.

The problem with the eggs prices is they haven't come down universally, and so they'll find someplace where the eggs are still expensive.

Believe me, believe me, believe me.

I found the clip.

But so now she's saying, oh, no, but he said it'll bring prices down, but what he's doing is going to make them go up, even though prices have come down.

And he said he couldn't care less.

And that's the problem.

He said that?

I don't remember him saying that.

He said he couldn't care less.

And he couldn't care less.

He couldn't care less.

And that's the problem we've got.

Donald Trump and the Republicans.

Oh, so the problem is not tariffs.

It's that he said he couldn't care less.

It's like they've taken a five-gallon bucket of paint and just thrown it across the economy and said, there, that'll take care of everything.

Is Elizabeth Warren some kind of super economist that I'm unaware of?

Because she's using such great analogs as a five-gallon of paint thrown across the economy.

This is, you're right, she's very unhinged here.

They hysterical.

Yeah.

Are trying to put tariffs in place on every country,

on virtually every product that they export to the United States, and they're trying to do it all at once with no policy in mind.

So I hear from a small business here in Massachusetts who says, gosh, I'm a fabricator.

I bring in raw materials from other countries.

I then make my product here in the United States and export it to other countries.

What's weak about her argument here is if you're a politician, you just say, you know, Bill, Bill the welder, or, you know, she has no name, she has no company name, she has no actual products, so she's just making it up.

He said, what Donald Trump is doing just completely destroys my business.

I just close up shop.

That's all I can do.

That hasn't even been in place yet, but all of a sudden,

it's done.

Yes, exactly.

Doesn't care about costs for families, doesn't care about what this does for small businesses.

Doesn't care.

Instead, he's off trying to make Republicans bend a knee and say whatever he wants them to say, and trying to get world leaders to suck up to him.

Congress has the ability to put a stop to that, and we need to put a stop to it now.

Oh, and she's shaking when she says this.

Her whole head is shaking.

She's a wreck.

This bend the knee thing is also getting annoying.

Oh, I hadn't actually caught that.

Bend the knee.

That's good.

That's good.

You're right.

Bend the knee.

So then, what happened?

What I thought was odd is: you know, so we got

an executive order and a clarification

of this came out

two days ago: clarification of exceptions under Executive Order 14257

of April 2nd, 2025,

as amended.

And it doesn't specify.

Maybe I don't understand.

There's a lot of legal.

I need the constitutional lawyer.

But it's really about semiconductors.

Now, does an iPhone qualify as semiconductor?

I think iPhones,

I think the

cellular phones were mentioned specifically.

Well, not in what I see.

Well, semiconductors, they got them in there.

I don't know.

My understanding is that computers, cell phones, and semiconductor cells.

Well, yeah, but

this is what I'm so afraid of, is that

that's my understanding too, but I can't find any actual verbiage that says

it's about cell phones.

I see semiconductors everywhere, but I don't see cell phones.

So I'm just curious if this has just been thrown out there.

Let me see.

Nobody's arguing against it.

Nobody's saying it's not cell phones.

You're the the only one so far.

That's right.

That's right.

I'm arguing against this.

I don't...

No more.

Yes, this is loud.

I'm so disappointed.

Get rid of these cell phones.

Look, you're talking about the fact that the...

This is Kristen Welker, your girl, with Peter Navarro.

Is Peter Navarro on his way out?

It feels like

he's been away.

Well, he's definitely on his.

He gets more airtime than anybody.

Because he's crazy.

He says crazy stuff.

No wonder.

Look, you're talking about

stop with the look.

Look, you're talking about the fact that the White House has a strategy.

The Commerce Secretary, the Treasury Secretary, the President himself said there would not be exclusions, and yet just yesterday there were exclusions.

So is there, in fact, a plan or is the president making this up as he goes along?

So the policy is no exemptions, no exclusions.

The policy is in effect.

There were not exclusions.

Let me explain.

This is really good for the American people to understand.

There's like different ways to go about getting fairness for the American people.

The IPA is also used for the trade deficit, but there's also a really important thing, Kristen.

This deals with the chips issue you're talking about.

That's what we call this.

You know, I've been listening to this guy.

He sounds plastered half the time.

He's always slurring.

And in this case, I heard it again.

I'm wondering.

All right, I'm sorry.

Keep going.

No, I thought there was a second.

I thought it was a comma.

I'm wondering.

I thought there was something.

Oh, I'm just one.

No, I'm wondering whether he's like

an alcoholic.

Oh.

And this deals with the chips issue you're talking about.

That's what we call the section 232 issue, which is when we have a flood of imports being dumped into certain key strategic sectors.

Okay, hold on a second.

I'm reading.

This comes from Luttnick.

And Lutnik said all those products, cell phones, laptops, et cetera, are going to come under semiconductors.

and are going to have a special focus type of tariff to make sure that those products get re-shored.

So they don't, it was Luttnick, our commerce secretary, who said electronic devices, but it is specifically mentioned as semiconductors.

And now we have to go and get a, you know, so

yeah, I guess it has other stuff in there, but sure, it's filled with semiconductors.

So anyway, just a point of note.

Into certain key strategic sectors, steel, aluminum, chips, pharmaceuticals, as we learned during COVID, we have to take specific actions.

So what we're doing with chips, the problem, interestingly for chips, because it's very complex stuff, is that we don't buy a lot of chips like in bags, we buy them in products.

There you go.

So what Secretary of Commerce Howard Luttnick is going to do,

is doing it as we speak, is an investigation of the chip supply chain.

The goal is stability and resilience.

And you will see

actions taken based on those investigations on copper.

We've already have steel and aluminum.

We already have autos.

There will be pharmaceuticals.

And there will be chips and the important thing is

there's three kinds there's the high-end chips which is the ai future okay we've got to get control of that and then there's everything else that fuels our autos and everything and and on down i i will it's not chaos but it's unclear i mean you can say well copper but there's copper in iphones So, you know, there's chips in washing machines.

So

this is a little sketchy.

My washing machine there's nothing.

You're happy if there's a motor on it.

You don't have to crank it by hand.

Fair enough.

I hear what you're saying on investigation, but there is currently an exclusion for some of the products.

You want to call it exclusion potatoes, patarios?

No, it's not a correct.

What it is.

Potatoes, potatoes.

But let's say,

let's just.

Let's just put it this way.

Navarro should not be a spokeshole for anything.

If I were the president, I'd be like, no, hey, Pete, Pete, baby, come back here.

Sit down, be quiet.

You're not good at doing this.

Potatoes, patients,

what it is.

Well, but let's say,

let's just.

Here's, I think, another thing that's really important.

When people talk about the chaos or lack of strength, whatever, you just go back to day one.

I was there when the president signed it.

It was the second to last order he signed.

It was in the old one.

Well, you're right.

He does sound a bit slurry there.

I was there in the oval when the president signed it.

I was there with a fifth.

It was the second to last order he signed.

It was in the oval.

Bro, blow.

that night.

And it was the American First Trade Policy, which laid out every single thing we're doing.

And it would be remiss for anybody in the media not to review that carefully and see that there's rhyme to our reason and rhythm to what we're doing.

There's rhyme to the reason and the rhythm to the bang-diddy-bang-bang, shoe-bop, shoo-bop, baby.

But now the administration is actually on its website saying that they're offering refunds for some of these pods.

Oh,

no, I don't know.

It sounds very random to me.

That would be, it's random, random chaos.

No,

also got, if you want to hear, I've got Ro Conna on this with Margaret here.

Let's play this.

Roe, Ro Connor.

In the coming days, you're also going to go to Connecticut to Yale Law on Tuesday.

Are you trying to sort of troll Vice President Vance?

And if so, why?

Well, no, I mean, Cleveland City Club invited me to give a speech on the economy, and let's talk about these tariffs.

Ro Connor, they were chaotic.

Yes.

RoConnor.

What has he got to do with anything that they'd invite him to give a speech on the economy?

And he's going to use the word chaos.

I heard that.

Okay.

And they were totally

haphazard.

So you had Howard Luttnick on saying that we were going to bring manufacturing back, electronics manufacturing back to the United States.

And they realized suddenly that that wasn't going to happen.

Actually, the iPhone price would go up to...

Oh, so okay, so this is spiking the ball.

Hey, boys, remember we said that iPhone was going to be $3,500.

Everybody bought it.

They buckled under it.

$1,700 or $2,000.

And by the way, if that manufacturing moved, it would probably move to Malaysia or Vietnam.

So they suddenly reverse, they exempt all of electronics manufacturing, which is about a third of our trade deficit.

And I'm here at the Cleveland City Club to say, if you want to have electronics manufacturer here, the way to do it is not blanket tariffs.

You have to create an electronic manufacturing hub, the kind we did with the CHIPS Act.

That means investing in tool engineering and workforce.

It means having investment tax credits.

It means having government buy things from the United States.

The president has no plan of how to actually have high-end advanced manufacturing in the United States.

All right.

I think that Lutnik is the bad actor here.

I think Luttnik said something he shouldn't have, and he probably said it from pressure.

Because he's a hedge fund guy.

I think he got pressured into saying, oh, no, we'll take, maybe he's just just in love with his iPhone.

I don't know.

Well, we didn't get a clear answer on when these semiconductor tariffs are coming, but the administration argues they're in the pipeline and that, you know, China's not going to get a free pass when it comes to

tech.

What is that going to mean for your part of the country?

Well, it's again, they don't have any

sense of when the tariff will come, when it won't come, and they're against the CHIPS Act.

So how are you going to, let's say, you suddenly put tariffs on China?

What it would mean is the production would move to other parts of Asia.

It still isn't going to come here unless you're financing those factories here, willing to buy here.

Tariffs can be a tool used as a broader Hamiltonian industrial policy.

And that's what I'm here in Ohio to talk about, which is what is actually going to bring advanced manufacturing to this country.

What is the harmonized Hamiltonian?

What is Hamiltonian?

Did Hamilton do tariffs?

I don't know.

I don't remember.

So I'm looking under the definition.

I know Jefferson did, and it caused an economic collapse.

Let me see, semiconductors.

Well, I got some clips.

Okay, please.

Well, I'll look up this.

Let's start.

I'm still digging in this.

I got some trade analysis clips which are be part of this, which is part of it about tariffs, actually.

But let's start with this tariff high-tech reprieve kicker clip.

Hold on a second.

Here we go.

Apple, NVIDIA, and other tech companies landed major relief in President Trump exempting smartphones and other electronics from new tariffs.

As NPR's Bobby Allen reports, the tech industry had been bracing itself for a major shock.

U.S.

Customs and Border Protection published tariff exclusions late Friday that include smartphones, laptops, memory chips, and machines that create semiconductors.

Fear of a sudden spike in the price of iPhones sent some customers rushing to buy new devices.

And Apple charted a cargo plane from India to fly 600 tons of iPhones out to avoid the new levies.

But Apple and Nvidia, two of the most valuable companies in the world, have for now won a reprieve.

The Trump administration has pushed tech companies to manufacture more electronics in the U.S.

But executives say the cost of labor, advanced supply chains abroad, along with hyper-specialized workers, would make moving production to the U.S.

in some cases nearly impossible.

Impossible to do it here because we're a bunch of dummies.

Our education system is teaching gender studies instead of electronics engineering.

Let's face reality, let's talk about that a little bit.

So, they mentioned that in that report: 600 tons of iPhones-that's quite a lot of iPhones

coming out of India.

What are they doing in India?

I didn't know they made them.

They thought Foxconn made them all in China.

What are they doing?

What's India got to do with it?

What happened to the Foxconn plant in Ohio?

Oh, yeah, that was a first go.

Remember that?

Remember that?

Yeah, yeah, that was a first go-round of more showing that we can't do anything anymore because, well,

teaching kids gender studies and turning them and having their nuts chopped off doesn't really help.

Okay.

Let's go to my.

Now I'm going to trade analysis.

This is Michael.

Now, this I picked up from

the Mark Levan show on

his TV show on Fox.

Yes.

And he had Michael Pillsbury is the China expert at the

Heritage Foundation.

He's quite good.

These clips are, and I can, and he goes on, this is just a part of a longer talk, but this is good stuff.

Yeah.

Trade, analysis.

Yes, I see it.

I'm just looking to make sure I get the right one.

As I understand it, the Chinese economy is hurting right now.

And number two,

if they actually want to go toe-to-toe with the United States in a tariff war, because most of these other countries want to meet with President Trump and negotiate some kind of deal, apparently China does not, or at least they want to save face.

They don't want to show that they do.

How's that going to wind up for China?

Well, it's a big risk for China either way.

If they make concessions and try to get President Trump off their back,

the risk is their economy will be even slower in its growth rate.

And the politics will be that there'll be challengers to Xi Jinping that he's been too soft on the Americans and he's a coward.

This has happened before in Chinese history.

The Chinese Communist Party has what they call the 10 big struggles.

And each time the party chairman was kicked out, sometimes murdered.

So that's one side for Xi Jinping to be thinking about, should I meet President Trump halfway, head off a trade war?

Or the other choice entirely

is be tough.

Do not give anything.

And Xi Jinping has a record of wanting to tell what he calls the global south Mark.

That's like 3 billion people.

He wants to portray China as an honest sort of advocate of fairness for the global south.

That means less money for people like you and me who live in the global north.

So there's a big incentive to Xi Jinping to be tough, to do nothing, and to steer things around like he did the first time this happened.

back in 2017.

He got talks started with delegations.

In that case, there were 13 rounds, Mark, 13 rounds of negotiations back and forth, back and forth, one in Beijing, one back in Washington.

President Trump brought the Chinese negotiator into the Oval Office in front of the media, tried to put pressure on him that way.

That agreement was, Mr.

Trump said, and I agree with him, it was wonderful, it was great, it was an all-time historical agreement between the two biggest economies.

And the Chinese proceeded to not honor it in almost any way at all.

Yes, there was his final.

What I don't have him clip though is he's saying that if you're going to have, he says Trump's a little wiser this time around.

He's going to bring in people that don't trust China, which every time he said it, it was like, I kept thinking of the clip, don't trust China.

Hold on a second.

Here it is.

Donald Trump, don't trust China.

Don't trust China.

China is SO.

There you go.

That was wise words.

That was our first trade representative.

So here we go with clip two.

So that could be the model for what we're going to see over the coming year is Chinese stalling.

That's a key word.

They'll stall us

and make the minimum concessions to prevent really massive tariffs being put on them and other kinds of punishment and just try to wait Mr.

Trump out.

If these tariffs stay in place, I mean, we're talking about massive tariffs for a period of time.

What will that do to China's economy?

Well, it depends depends on what China's trading partners do and on the Chinese consumer market.

What Xi Jinping has been up to the last two or three years is saying we have to turn inward and have our own people, our own rising middle class, buy our products and to some degree rely much less on the Americans or the European Union.

That's the thrust of what Xi Jinping is doing.

And I think you know why.

He's been anticipating this kind of tariff attack from Mr.

Trump.

When I was last in China about a year ago, I got an earful of how they're getting ready for Trump.

They're not afraid of him.

They can outlast him for two or three years and don't believe anything negative about our Chinese economy.

That's the official Chinese propaganda line.

Our economy is doing fine.

We're going to have 5% growth next year.

You Americans will be lucky to get 1.5 or 2%.

So we're going to be double or triple your American growth rate.

So this is what's been coming out of China.

That's pretty funny.

Hey, we're going to be double or triple.

Yes, our current current growth rate is what, 0.6?

So, yeah, okay, 1.5 is triple.

Woohoo!

So we're going to be double or triple your American growth rate.

So this is what's been coming out of China.

Now, is that a lie?

Is that bluster?

Do they just not know?

This is what we're going to have to find out.

And I'm afraid it's going to be the hard way, just like in President Trump's first term.

He's going to have to get the talks going and get documents down in writing to say, you know, we will do this.

We will not do that.

Here's a question for you.

Did

the initial tariffs that President Trump put in and President Biden kept in on China, did that raise the price of iPhones?

I think iPhones stayed the same, didn't they, generally speaking?

Maybe adjusted for a little bit of inflation.

Well, you have to base it on the margin, and it looks like the margin didn't change much.

Okay.

So

that was what?

That was, what was it?

Do you know the tariff rate

20%

I don't know

okay

It wasn't 145 that's for sure.

No, no, it wasn't okay, we continue the final agreement last time the January 2020 agreement mark that was 90 pages long with annexes and definitions of things so I hate to see that go through happen again.

I'd much rather see President Trump escalate and really have a superpower showdown between china and ourselves so we don't get stalled for uh for two or three more years and then have an agreement that's not honored

30 percent on solar panels in 2018

but it looks like there was uh two rounds of ten percent iphones didn't go up 20 this is bull crap

um

and by the way i've thank you for these clips i've taken the moment to take a look.

There is no specific mention of electronics or iPhones.

That's all Luttnick.

So the interpretation of semiconductors is quite broad, according to Howard Luttnick.

I think he's just throwing that out there.

I don't think that's actually.

Well, they're not going to, if he's just throwing it out there, means they're going to collect tariffs.

I don't think they're going to collect the tariffs.

There's a lot of reports now they're not collecting half the tariffs anyway.

Well, there was a computer glitch the first day, the first 10 hours of shipments that came in.

They didn't calculate it.

There was no tariff calculation at all.

Good work, everybody.

By the way,

a short review.

I got my Light Phone 3 in, just speaking of expensive phones.

And how much, what do you mean by expensive?

Well, this is $500.

I thought it's quite expensive.

That is.

But pricey.

But if you want a solid phone that is small, has a long-lasting battery life, that does only the basics, and by basics I mean phone, text, calendar, camera, alarm, pictures, calculator, podcasts, directions, hotspot, and music,

this is a great device.

Great for the kids, I would say.

Better than some wonky item.

There's no internet, no browser, no apps.

And John, the screen is gorgeous.

It's just the

O L E D?

It is, yes.

It's gorgeous.

And so it has that paper kind of digital paper, O L E D.

But when you receive or send, or you take a picture or you send or receive one through text message, it's gorgeous.

It's just gorgeous.

I'm doing my best, Tim Cook.

It's gorgeous.

It's just so gorgeous.

Great phone.

This has replaced my flip phone.

really okay really quite outside you and leo are always into the phone thing no i'm i'm but i'm into cheap phones and cheap cheddar

500 bucks is not a cheap phone it's not cheap but it's a lot cheaper than anything well for what it is i this is if i had a kid and i'm sending them to school i'd give that my kid this phone it's durable it does it does a lot of things it does it doesn't do any of the things

the problem with what you just said yes is that the kids waste their time in school messaging and that thing messages.

So, what's the difference?

Yeah, they won't be on the browser, maybe.

They won't be doom scrolling.

Okay, the one advantage is they won't be doom scrolling TikTok.

Yeah, or using Snapchat.

But they'll be texting.

Yeah, but checking their email.

No, you can't check your email on it.

No, well, that's a plus.

No email.

No, you can't check your email.

You can only text.

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

I'm just saying.

It's gorgeous.

It's absolutely gorgeous.

Yeah, he said that.

You're like saying that you

don't know why you're doing it.

I don't know why you're not interested in a beautiful piece of technology.

You used to be like a tech guy.

You say, give me that phone.

Let me change it to Korean.

I mean, you know.

Can you do that?

Yes, of course.

No, then I'd do that.

Well, that would be good.

Yeah.

Actually, Russian's a good one.

Anything.

Chinese is great.

Chinese is the best.

It's the best.

Yeah, because you'll never figure out how to get out of that

Okay, let's stay on the tariffs, but let's

go to the EU.

Well, now, before we go to the EU, this is one that has kind of an Ask John in it.

This is the CEO of

the big beer conglomerate who make Corona and Modelo and all those Mexican beers.

He has a complaint, and I have a question about his complaint.

You've spent, the company has spent billions the past few years building up their production capacity in Mexico.

I believe you'll spend another, what, $2 billion building out a plant in Veracruz over the next

12 months.

I think this administration would say, Bill, well, why didn't Bill Millens invest those billions in the U.S.

in making beer?

How come can you build a beer-making plant in the U.S.

and make profitable beer doing so?

I think there's a couple of things, Brian, you have to keep in mind.

First of all, while we're an American company, we are invested in Mexico because we are selling authentic Mexican brands.

These are not brands in the same way that you're not making champagne in the United States, or you're not making tequila in the United States, or you're not making New Zealand Salvino Blanc in the United States.

We're not going to be making Mexican beer in the United States.

Is that a fair comparison between champagne?

I mean, is there something special about the ingredients in Mexico

that this is why corona has to be made in Mexico?

No.

Okay.

There's nothing special about the ingredients at all.

It just happens to be made in Mexico.

You can't sell a Mexican beer made in Palo Alto

as Mexican beer.

We could call it Corona.

You could call it that, but then it would have to be made in Palo Alto.

No,

this was just technical.

Right.

Because champagne, you actually have to have they have a...

So that's a law.

That's by law.

But you can make a champagne clone, and they do very, for example, in Brazil,

they do it here to sparkling California wines.

It used to be called champagne.

You used to sell California sparkling wines as champagne.

Did we say California champagne?

Yeah, then the French got all together.

The French, no, they weren't putting up with that because it did because that would

for good reason.

Yeah.

And so, and that was an international standard.

It's also

the grapes from that region, just like the agave.

I don't think no, the grapes from that region, the champagne can be duplicated.

Although you can say, well, there's chalky soil.

You can duplicate.

I've had champagne wine-style style wine made with the method champagne is the way they call it.

They they

made in Brazil that is the closest thing I've ever had to taste exactly like champagne.

Yeah, they just can't call it champagne.

Right.

But I mean, I guess what I was saying is there's nothing special about, there's no law that says you can't make Corona in America and just call it Corona.

Yeah, you can't say, you could say it's Mexican beer by.

exact same, you should be able to make it a duplicate.

You should be able to make a copy of Corona beer in Palo Alto that tastes exactly like the same, you know, Corona, which smells a little bit like pea.

I was going to say, the guy is, but he's he's equating.

By the way, you know, that

here's the story.

You know, they always say, oh, the Mexicans are peeing in it.

That was the reason it was smelled like pee.

But

I was at a Safeway or lucky, one of these big

grocery stores, they had a big pile of Corona that somebody had knocked over the whole thing.

And so there was like, I'd say, 50 broken bottles of Corona on the floor.

They were mopping up, and it smelled just like a pea, like you were

in an outhouse.

It just smelled terrible.

It's a terrible smelling beer.

Well, this is a tremendous opportunity.

We have a lot of beer makers in America.

We have a lot of beer makers in our audience.

I think

we should start making a new brand, Karuna.

Karuna, made in Palo Alto.

It doesn't seem to be hard to make.

It shouldn't be.

I mean,

you have to know what you're doing.

Making beers.

We had a guy

whose name was Brewer at Movio, who was a beer maker.

I thought his name was, he had to become a, I think he became one.

He worked in some worm.

But he would, his beers were,

I know a lot of people that make homemade beer,

and it's just, it's not as easy.

I mean, sometimes some, there's always a guy out there that seems to be able to have the touch, but there's still some magic to it.

It's amazing.

We had no agenda beer at one point.

You remember?

Yes, it was out of New Zealand.

It was good, too.

It was very good.

I don't know what happened to those guys.

They visited here.

I met with them.

Yes, yes.

They brought a bunch of weird no-agenda beer, and they had some other beers that had ITM and stuff written on it.

Yeah.

33.

And I heard us say something, I guess, against

Suzy or whatever the hell her name is.

And they went away.

Although noagendabir.com still forwards to noagendashow.net.

How about that?

So that's still alive.

That's still alive.

Okay.

Well, thank you for explaining that.

The

metaude champonnois.

But here's what our European Union allies are doing, the traitors.

The European Union has temporarily posed its counter-tariffs against the United States to further pursue talks with Donald Trump's administration on how to resolve what was shaping up to be an all-out trade war.

According to the President of the EU Commission, Oslo von der Leyen, the suspension will remain in place for at least 90 days.

The counter-tariffs imposed in reaction to Trump's duties on steel and aluminium were approved on Wednesday by member states, targeting almost 21 billion euros in American products.

The first draft, worth 3.9 billion Euros, was scheduled to go into effect on the 15th of April before the change.

The EU bloc had initially been hit by a twenty percent rate under Trump's sweeping tariffs, shocking Brussels and other capitals.

The EU Commission, which has exclusive competence to determine the commercial policy for the twenty seven member bloc, has been trying to figure out how to respond to Washington's trade tariffs.

So they're going to team up with the Chinese, huh?

Hmm.

See how that goes for you.

Yeah, it won't work out.

Don't touch China.

I think the

China going to the South, going to South America and Africa, they've already done Africa.

Moving everything.

It's not going to work out for them either.

No.

Oh, before I forget.

Opportunity knocks.

Just because we're talking about

phones and everything.

Recall our hollow book idea.

Yeah.

The hollow book idea is

the cover of the book.

Help me out here.

The book would say,

I'm paraphrasing, this book will help you

get off of your smartphone addiction.

We need a snappier title, but

did we have a snappy title for that?

We don't have a snappy title, no.

So

at church this morning,

one of the singers came up to me me and said, I was listening to your show.

I like that.

And she said, Hobby Lobby

has a $7 hollow book

ready for just a cover.

You put a jacket on that thing, boom, good to go.

Hollow book,

just a.

Seven bucks is too high.

You could sell this book with a cover on it for $25.

You're just making up reasons to not do this.

I love this idea.

Yeah, you do.

And your phone goes, and so all we have to do is print up the cover.

So why is that too high?

People will buy a premium product from the No Agenda Show.

And what is really the premium part is our cover.

That's really what it's about.

You still put yourself in the middle.

Well, let's design a cover and

we'll have a competition.

Wow, the enthusiasm you are exuding is just beyond belief.

I'm excited about this idea.

Yeah, I know you are, but you're the one that still uses a phone.

I have one in the drawer.

I'll put mine in the book.

You make it?

I'll put it in the book.

I think you're underestimating the addictive nature.

Yeah, I think we could sell a few gimmick books.

I'm not saying

you said earlier that this could sell like 20,000 units is what you're saying.

20,000 is I readjusted my thinking to 1,000.

Maybe.

And it's only still as a gimmick,

as a Christmas gift, a goof.

Because nobody, the more we play these clips and the more I listen to you go on about a $500 phone that does text, I'm thinking that

this is done.

It's over.

Society is ruined by these things.

And you're not going to, it's wishful thinking on your part.

Putting the kill in buzzkill, ladies and gentlemen.

I would give up my phone for this, for this.

No, you wouldn't.

Yes, I would.

I don't care about the phone.

Look, just because you're so awesome, I got the phone in the drawer.

Okay.

I'm not saying I'm awesome.

I am an outlier.

Yes.

Minimum.

Yes.

And that's my point.

This is a real, there's a real

crisis of people using these smartphones.

And this book will be great.

People can put it in there and they will think of us and

they will stop using their phone.

And a thousand units.

That's it.

That's what it takes.

Listen.

That's all it takes.

Listen to stop using your phone.

Listen, it's a great idea.

It's a fun gift.

I think it's got legs.

We have another guy sent us another company that looks promising that can make the whole thing.

Oh, yeah.

No, someone has to make the whole package.

You'll never do it.

Think about the microphone company, how well we'd be doing with that.

Yeah, we'd be broke right now because of the tariffs.

No.

I saw that coming.

We would have had our whole shipment in.

We would have had a warehouse full of Curry One microphones and tons of potential podcasts.

Time is right.

Don't worry.

We'll get that done.

That'll be done.

Yeah, four more years.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

What else we got?

Well, there's a lot of stuff going on.

I have a lot of TikTok clips.

Oh, please.

I can't handle it.

Oh, by the way, I wanted to play one of them right off the bat.

The rest of them we can do later.

Thank God.

But since this came up kind of in the conversation, what is this?

Play this April 20th TikTok clip.

If Trump declares martial law on April 20th, which is the rumor, we're in deep doo-doo.

I'm terrified.

This is absolutely terrifying as a woman, as an American.

Is this the handmaid's deal?

This martial law would surpass all police.

How terrifying?

Like, what do I need to do as a woman to prepare?

Help me.

Help me, help others.

I'm so freaking nervous.

I hate him.

I hate the orange clown.

Wow.

So, this is

a follow-on to the delusional dem I had on the last show.

Yeah.

Who said that

President Trump is going to declare martial law

on April 20th?

Yeah, 4.20 Easter.

Yeah.

Yeah, that makes nothing but sense.

You're going to declare martial law on Easter Sunday.

I don't think so.

For some reason, this is going to create a handmaid's tale situation.

I don't know what it's creating it.

This is one of many of these clips.

I didn't collect a bunch of them.

I got that one.

But you had one.

That's why I didn't, you know, you'd be bothered.

Where is this rumor coming from and why is it becoming popular?

Well, it's like quantum dots.

Grid going down.

Grid going down.

It's exactly the same.

This is coming from people who don't have a hollow book to put their phone in.

That's where this is coming from.

I have a follow-on clip, though.

Speaking of handmade tail.

Tonight, this message is gaining steam.

So let me say very simply, I want more babies in the United States of America.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're going to be the handmade tail.

We're going to make you have babies, make you into baby machines.

Well, it's led to what's called the pro-natalist movement.

And it's getting more popular because of messages from Vice President Vance and Elon Musk, who, of course, has at least 13 children with multiple women.

San Annasmina Derson is out front at the 2015.

No, no, he has a new one.

He's got a new one.

I don't think that one's real.

It's just a fake baby.

With multiple women.

San Annasmina Durson is out front at the 2025 Natal Conference.

Because yes, there is a conference.

There's a conference.

Raise your hand if you are a mom or a dad in the room here tonight.

This is the war for civilization, and we are going to win win it one life at a time.

We're here at NatalCon, which is a gathering of about 200 people from all over the world who have come here because they all feel very strongly that the world needs more babies.

There's a civilizational catastrophe coming and the way to solve it is to have sex.

Like that's got to be the easiest pitch in history.

Birth rates around the world are flimming and they think this is the issue of our time.

It's a massive

conversation and that's why we're here.

We need to encourage more people to get married and have kids we need those people to be the people of the future many countries are no longer having enough kids to replace their populations some experts predict this will cause labor shortages and inflation permanently changing the economy the people most passionate about this call themselves pronatalists pronatalists you go so there so we had a table conversation over at dinner yeah and jc has to claims he's got some documentation for this and i think he does

it seems as though the popular, when we went to a negative birth rate, and it may be a socialist thing that's taken place, and it goes right back to Hollywood.

When TV shows had kids on the TV shows, and there was kids around, and family shows that showed a lot of children to the public, we had a higher birth rate.

Oh, no doubt.

The TV, yes, no doubt.

I mean, it makes sense.

As soon as you say it, it sounds, oh, yeah, that makes sense because you're seeing examples.

You know, you had your Ozzie and Harriet, you had your

Father Knows Best, you had the Donna Reacher, you had all these

Brady,

good, very good example.

So you had all these shows with kids and, you know, the humor that kids provide, and it's good television.

And that's very slowly evolved into no kids on any shows.

And you remember we had America's Funniest Home Videos Kids?

Right.

I think a lot of people, oh, look at those cute kids doing stupid, funny stuff.

I want one of those.

But no, no, instead we got Modern Family.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Modern Family.

Run by that guy Zucker, the one of the producers of that show, the major, major, major Trump hater.

Yeah.

Well, this is.

And anti-American.

I think the anti-Americanism is stemming right out of Hollywood.

Sure.

And it's trying to

kill the culture.

Let's just say, no more kids.

let's just let us all die off, and that'll be the end of it, and we'll be all good to go.

Yeah,

yay,

woo!

That sounds groovy, so it wouldn't take that much to crank it up, crank the key.

You know, these bull crap, you have to have the vice president telling people to have kids, nobody's going to listen to that.

But if they saw it, you have to see it, yeah,

yeah.

Well, but, but is Hollywood isn't uh

is Hollywood isn't even Hollywood anymore.

I mean, the people are watching the movies on Netflix, and from what I can tell,

it's all either outer space or Marvel.

Armageddon.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A lot of Armageddon, the end-of-the-world stuff.

Yeah.

No, it's creating a...

That's the problem.

The culture generation that goes on from the Hollywood...

I'm just using Hollywood as a generic term because you're right.

There's no Hollywood anymore.

No.

But that process is ruining the country.

Where should we shot?

Where's Shirley Temple?

We need a new Shirley Temple.

We need guys like Brunetti actually doing some work against him.

Oh, please.

No,

he got his money.

He's like, I got my money.

I got my cyber truck.

I love my truck.

I got my truck.

I love what I do.

I got my fire truck.

I'd be sitting there waiting for Scaramonga to create a whole movie with AI.

You know, Brunetti should be ashamed of himself.

He took the best of this country.

This country gave him enormous opportunity, enabled him to make incredible amounts of money off of the House of Cards and 50 Shades of Gray.

How about 50 Kids from Dorian Gray?

I mean, just do something.

Do something to help America.

I'm just trying to come up with something.

Yeah, you keep him down.

Yeah, thanks.

Sorry.

No,

it's actually despicable.

It really is.

I'll take his side because he says it's not possible because he says it's gone so far left,

you can't get a word in edgewise.

You can't do it.

If you're a conservative producer in Hollywood, you just

can't get it done.

There is an incredible

surge.

Oh, never mind.

Sorry, I brought it up.

You know where it's coming from.

There is a surge in Christian movies,

feel-good movies.

Yeah.

Do they involve a lot of kids?

Yeah.

I've tried to watch one of these movies.

It's just a bunch of,

you know, no.

It involves

slavery.

And

Jesus is horrible material.

That's from Hollywood.

But you need to look at Pure Flicks.

Get Pure Flicks on your smart TV.

It's nothing but happy-go-lucky movies.

Marky Mark is making movies with his kids.

It's great.

It's got to go into pop culture.

It's got to get on the television.

There is no pop culture anymore.

The numbers are still there.

10 million people watch a show on TV.

It's over unless these guys get on board.

And they're not going to get on board because they've all become communists.

Well, okay.

Well, two more years, everybody.

It's all over.

We're done.

We're toast.

We're cooked.

Not quite as bad.

Oh, by the way, what should we do here?

I got a number of funny things.

Well, here's a good start.

I thought this was a very good start.

Where is it here?

of changing the culture.

And

where is it?

Here we go.

This is Gail King.

Gail King.

We all know Gail King.

Oprah's best.

She's being launched into space.

Yes, it's a good start.

In Blue Origins.

By the way,

she is scared to death.

She's the only one that

has trepidation about this trip.

We're talking about this at the dinner table, too.

We think this is just a

kill shot.

In Blue Origins Training Capsule, CBS's Gail King got a sense of tomorrow's thrill ride, a trip 62 miles straight up to the edge edge of space.

And I realize this is so much bigger than just a fun trip.

What it represents to young women, to girls, what they're trying to do on space in terms of, you know, looking at the planet in another way.

Space tourism civilian astronauts took off four years ago.

Three space companies, Blue Origin, Virgin Galactic, and SpaceX, have rocketed more than 120 people into space, including billionaire Jeff Bezos, Blue Origin's founder in 2021.

Did this moment motivate you to push deeper into the cosmos?

Hell yes.

Yeah, absolutely.

No doubt.

We have to build a road to space.

This sub-world tourism mission is about practicing.

What are we doing?

We're on space.

Are we running space?

Bezos's fiancé, Lauren Sanchez, put together Monday's all-female crew.

Six accomplished women, including King, hop star Katy Perry, two scientists, and a filmmaker.

A good start.

Their 11-minute round-trip adventure will include roughly three minutes of weightlessness, floating in the capsule, looking out a window onto the world below.

CBS News space analyst Bill Harwood.

It's something we all marvel at, but I think getting from there to the point where the average person can do this is decades away, if not longer.

Liftoff will happen here in West Texas from a launch pad on a mammoth ranch owned by Jeff Bezos.

Gail admits she's both excited and terrified.

Now,

the odds are

they've had 150 of these launches.

One of these has to go wrong with some celebrities.

And I don't, I wish no ill on anybody.

No, I don't wish ill on anybody, but Katy Perry's probably

one of them.

Uh-huh.

We were talking about Satanism earlier.

How is this a big deal?

Didn't we land on the moon in 1969 when I was five years old?

How is this a big deal?

Woo!

Gail King's going up in space, going to be weightless for three minutes.

It's just going to go up and down.

It's just an up and down thing.

I don't even, I mean, what's overlooked is nobody wants to talk about it, or I don't know why they haven't talked about it, but SpaceX took a bunch of amateurs and sent them over the North and South Poles and four complete orbits around the planet to do actual work up there and landed safely.

Hello, it's Elon.

Hello.

Did he have to go?

He has Elon.

So forget that.

So instead, we're going to talk about the blue rocket.

He didn't have Katy Perry.

And regarding Kill Shot, I mean, if I was conspiratorial in nature, I'd think Bezos is like, hey, Sanchez, we've had a good run, baby.

Get on this rocket.

Get on this rocket, honey.

I know.

That's what everybody's thinking.

It's horrible.

It's not like a morbid thought on your part or mine.

I'm not the only one thinking this.

Everybody is thinking this.

All right.

I'm not the only one thinking this.

Okay.

I don't,

everyone at the dinner table, everyone was over on Friday.

Celebrating your birthday two weeks late?

Yes.

That's still coming.

And so

that came up in the conversation, and everybody felt the same way that this is a kill shot.

Get rid of Sanchez.

I mean, it's a sick thought.

What's wrong with the public today?

It's very sad.

They're a very cynical group of people, the public in general.

Yes.

You know why?

It's because they don't have a book to put their cell phone in.

That is the problem right there.

They need a book.

Oh, hey, Friday, I saw the oil baron.

Oh, yes.

How did he, what's he have to say?

Well, first of all, you know,

I get a lot of emails.

Oh, the oil baron was right.

You know, oil is down.

Everyone's pissed off.

So his partners in the business and people he knows,

they're all like, I never should have voted for Trump.

Like, did they not hear him say drill, baby, drill, which they knew they weren't going to do?

You know, didn't he understand when President Trump said, I'm going to bring down energy costs?

Did they think that wouldn't be them?

So they voted for him knowing that he said that.

Now they're bitching.

Big time.

They literally like,

I can't believe this guy's no good.

He

never would have voted for him.

Okay.

And it's true.

Democrat presidents are always better for the oil business.

So I said, where are you at, brother?

First of all, I said,

would you like a sandwich?

Because I know you're so broke.

Would you like a sandwich, oil baron?

I know you're so broke.

So what do you think the number is that they, the bottom line number they can go per barrel?

Because I have the number.

How low they can go before they start losing money?

Is that what the question is?

Yes, that's the question.

Go.

Well, in Saudi Arabia, I know the number to be $25 a barrel.

Yeah.

The American number, I'm guessing, is 45.

Bam, on the money.

Now, he says

$45 we can do, but that's because he says we're hedged at 80%.

He says, if that happens, there's a whole bunch of other oil companies that will go under because they're hedged at under 50%.

But he said, but that'll be great because we can buy them on the cheap.

And he did say again, he says, we're pumping out less oil per these wells, but we're real heavy on gas.

He says a lot of gas coming out.

It's all fracking.

It's all Permian Basin.

He says there's a lot of gas coming out.

So the one thing they really, really want from the president is transportation.

They want pipelines.

They want pipelines to send this stuff out to the port.

They want the LNG stuff to be ramped up.

He says, if we can get that, we'll be really happy.

And that makes sense.

I mean, we need natural gas is super abundant and cheap, and we can use it for all kinds of groovy stuff.

Yeah, use it to run power plants.

Yes, as just as an example.

Speaking of,

this was great.

Franz Van Cartre, France 24, discussed a very big report that has been done now about AI and claims that it is accelerating climate change.

One concern around artificial intelligence is its voracious appetite for energy.

Electricity demand for AI-focused data centers will quadruple in the next five years, at least according to a report from the International Energy Agency.

But the report also calls claims that AI is accelerating climate change overstated.

Tech editor Peter O'Brien has been looking through all of this.

Now, there's still quite a bit of uncertainty then about the future of energy and AI.

Yeah, that's right, Erin.

I've been looking through this

chunk here, and

basically, the takeaway is that yes, energy demand from AI is obviously going to increase significantly as we continue to use it, but there are uncertainties, particularly around emissions.

Is AI going to devour so much oil, well, rather, gas and

coal that it's disastrous for our planet?

Is it going to actually increase efficiencies and spur innovations that allow us to reduce emissions?

Or is it going to fall somewhere in between?

And who better to talk about it than Thomas Spencer, who co-wrote the report.

Thanks for being here on Tech 24.

And why did you think it was so important to bring quite close to the front of the report that these claims that AI is accelerating climate change could be overstated?

Well, in the public debate, you see two positions being taken, and they're quite different.

The first one is that AI, because of the technology innovation that it can bring, can, you know, in simple terms, solve climate change.

And the second is a more alarmist position that AI, because of the acceleration in energy consumption, is going to dramatically accelerate climate change.

Due to climate change.

So I got a hold of this whole report.

I take a look at it.

I have a conclusion here.

This is an 11-minute report.

I have a 37-second conclusion.

What word was not in the report?

What word was not in the report?

I have no idea.

Nuclear!

Oh, not in the report.

And when we looked very carefully at the data, when we looked at the numbers,

when we did our analysis, we found that neither position was really justified.

What is important is that AI is a tool.

Like any other tool, it's up to us how we use it.

It can help us on many climate problems, for example, integrating more renewables into our electricity systems.

Okay, so AI is going to help us with climate change by integrating more renewables into our systems, huh?

But at the same time, we need to manage the electricity consumption growth that we are already seeing today.

And so we wanted just to, let's say, do a bit of myth-busting with regard to these two diametrically opposed viewpoints that you hear in the public debate.

Yeah, there's no conclusion.

The whole thing is stupid.

But it does give me the opportunity.

It does give me the opportunity.

I believe that.

To ask you why you had not responded to my annual artificial intelligence test.

I sent you an email about it.

Yes, I sent you an email about it.

I didn't see it.

So you remember the manus.im

agentic AI that I was testing?

Oh, yet.

No, I did see the email.

I took a look at it.

Let me set it up.

Let me set it up.

So I asked Manus.im,

please find for me,

this is the Turing test of artificial intelligence.

It is developed by John C.

Dvorak.

It is the AI Turing test.

The modern AI Turing test.

Said, please compile and determine for John C.

Dvorak, known columnist, host of the co-host of the No Agenda podcast, a known technology expert, please compile and determine the best weed whacker available on the market today.

Yeah.

And it made a nice little website for you.

I saw all of that.

Yeah.

What did you say?

You didn't come up with the right answer?

I have no clue.

I don't believe it.

You don't believe it.

Hmm.

I thought it was.

You know what I thought?

Because it said the ego power plus power load with line IQ ST1623T as the best one.

But I liked, I think this is what AI constantly does: it packages this in a parlor trick because I just asked for the best weed whacker.

I'm going to put this in the troll room so they can take a look at it.

Yeah, you should.

And it created an entire website with an introduction.

I know it just gave me a lot of things.

Research methodology.

No, it's parlor tricks.

It's like a little kid who's, you know, knows this one thing and he has to tell everybody.

And it said the best weed whacker of 2025, a comprehensive analysis that even John C.

Dvorak would approve.

Well, you didn't.

You did not approve it.

I didn't.

You're right.

And why not?

Did you just think?

Do you think it was...

Did you not like the side-by-side analysis and its determination?

No, i didn't i haven't given it a good what it is is i have not sat down and actually

exit i saw this this monstrosity that you created

i saw it i didn't create it jesus you have to be in the mood

to even approach this

by the way by the way it took one hour and 12 minutes for this yeah i saw that that part i did see you noted i'm thinking why did it take so long and ten dollars in credits why did you have to pay for it it's credits because because this is what ai costs and telling you this you can even watch the screens as it as it starts up web browsers and you can watch it go and and it's scanning all these things it's doing all these searches this is a completely ridiculous abuse of the so-called artificial intelligence because Nobody is going to be happy with this.

Nobody who just wants to know what the best weed whacker is is going to wait an hour and 12 minutes for the thing to finish and pay almost 10 bucks to get this website out of it.

That is not a consumer product.

I just, I don't believe people are going to be all super wowed.

I like it.

It's cool.

And for 10 bucks, it's not.

I didn't need the website, but it did that for me, probably just to jack up the cost.

Yeah.

It's padding its bill.

Yes, it's patting the bill.

Yes.

Well, it says that's the definitive choice.

It may be true, but I don't know.

Yeah, it might be.

I don't know.

I just thought, wow,

that's that the hype about agentic AI?

I'll wait for quantum.

Boy, you'll be waiting forever.

Yeah, well,

okay.

I mean, I find it useful.

I use it for background searches.

I tell people to,

and there's two or three of these systems.

They all work pretty well.

You have to double-check them because they get carried away and they're all verbose, which is the real annoying part about it.

They can't seem to get out of that mode.

But

I think it's still a replacement for Google.

I love the trolls.

Like, hey, they're already looking at the source code.

Hey, there's Chinese in the JavaScript.

I know those guys.

Who knows what they're doing?

Who knows?

Probably injected something into my browser.

Wouldn't surprise me.

Wouldn't surprise me.

Run Spy Hunter 5.

But

you will admit that if you really had to pay for the compute, the compute that it's using, you wouldn't use it for handy backup.

Every time you turn it around, you got to drop $10.

Forget it.

And take an hour and 12 minutes.

And now, you know, Google, they just

are starting to show their AI results and they're embedding that more and more.

Oh, they're no good.

But it's even worse because people who count on SEO for Google juice or their websites, when you get the answers, it has links, but it just has links to more stuff.

Inside Google, it doesn't take, it doesn't give you an answer and take it,

they bring you right back to Google with more search results.

It's putting another barrier in between people who want their website found through Google and them finding it.

That's ruining a lot of people.

SEO is going to be a real challenge in the next few years.

Yes.

Yes.

And it's not even going to be important per se.

It's going to have to be AI optimizations somehow.

I don't know how you even manage to do that.

It's all so lame.

What it does really great is it does bad country songs.

Please don't send end-of-show mixes that you made with AI, please.

Please don't.

It's so hard.

It's like the end.

Look, I made this great English ship.

Yeah, you wrote some cool cool lyrics, I agree, but it's just so bland.

And so,

you know, it's not.

I was listening to, what's his name?

Douglas Rushkoff, Rushkoff, who's that guy?

The old Silicon Valley hippie guy who writes about the humans versus the tech, the tech titans.

Yeah.

What's his name again?

Douglas Rushkoff?

I don't know.

Rushikov.

I

can't remember his last name.

Well, do you know?

Do you know him?

No.

Never met him.

Well, then, it doesn't matter.

This is a story about Millé from Argentina, who surprisingly,

I wasn't expecting them to see him do this.

He made a deal with the IMF.

I thought he was against all that.

Yeah, he's also doing deals with China.

I had a thought when I heard this report, and let's see if you can get into this thought with me.

The libertarian government of Argentine President Javier Millé announced libertarian.

Hold on a minute.

No, libertarian.

Isn't that interesting?

How come it's not far right?

Because they buckled.

They're going for who I am.

Who is this report from?

This is from

Franz Van Cartre.

By the way.

Libertarian taking a bailout from the IMF?

I don't think so.

Yeah,

it doesn't make sense.

Huh?

No, it doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense.

The libertarian government of Argentine President Javier Millé announced on Friday that it plans to lift most of the country's strict capital and currency controls.

The high-stakes gamble has been made possible by a new $20 billion bailout loan approved by the International Monetary Fund, which has offered a lifeline to Argentina's dangerously depleting foreign currency reserves.

Millay said the loan will place Argentina in a better position to face global economic instability.

This new fiscal, monetary, and exchange reality means two things for the country.

On the one hand, from now on, there will be no reason why Argentina has self-inflicted turbulences.

On the other hand, we're we're in better conditions than ever to resist external turbulences.

Never has Argentina been better equipped in its economic foundations to resist tensions from the global economy.

Starting Monday, Argentina's central bank will undo its fixed currency peg to the dollar, letting the Argentine peso freely fluctuate within limits.

From this year, companies will also be able to repatriate profits out of the country, a key demand from businesses that could unlock more international investment.

The move is high risk, as there's pent-up demand for foreign currency.

If there is not enough cash in the central bank, capital flight could imperil Malay's primary accomplishment of having lowered inflation during the past 15 months.

So I was thinking about this.

They're going to let it float free.

What could possibly go wrong with that?

I don't think the peso is

going to be very

competitive.

Well, every time it floats free, it starts to go into

inflationary mode.

But the whole part about they want money to be able to come in and go out, wouldn't this be the perfect country to launch the stable coin?

They're already using it.

A lot of people in Argentina are using stablecoin and commerce on a daily basis.

I think we had a report about that a while back.

I don't know.

But this may be a what a great country to launch it in.

Here you go.

Here's a bunch of our stablecoin.

I have no idea.

Okay.

Speaking of libertarians,

you probably didn't see this.

I actually listened to the whole thing,

and it was Douglas Murray,

who doesn't know him, went on Rogan to have some kind of a debate with Dave Smith.

You know Dave Smith?

I know Dave Smith.

I don't know Dave Smith.

Right.

Dave Smith is the guy who got all angry at us.

Remember?

I can't remember that story.

Tell me again.

Well, there were two reasons.

One, because we didn't remember who Scott Horton was.

And two, because we made fun of libertarians.

And I think I said, I'll take that.

I said, well, they're kind of just Republicans who don't want to say it.

And then, and a lot of people in

Gitmo Nation, you don't know what libertarianism.

Don't you draw on Tom Wood Show all the time?

Don't you know what libertarians are?

Libertarians.

I have to say I was a libertarian or self-proclaimed because there's no such thing as a libertarian in my opinion.

But I was a self-proclaimed libertarian until I realized that there's no such thing.

Well, what was bullcrap?

What was interesting

is

my cousin, I think at one point said, you know, she just didn't want to believe that I wasn't all in on Obama at the time.

She says, well, you're not really a Republican, right?

You're a libertarian.

I'm like, no, I'm not any of that stuff.

I'm not, I'm not a part of any club.

I'm just me.

I have my own ideas.

But it's kind of a thing that people will put on you just to, just to like, I want to like Adam.

Just say you're a libertarian.

Then it's okay.

You can vote for Trump, but just say you're a libertarian.

And so, in this, now,

and I'll tell you why he was there.

These big podcasts, they're starting to go nuts.

I mean, who wants this?

Who wants three?

Well, you should debate, you should debate Dave Smith, you, Douglas Murray, on Joe Rogan's show.

And, you know, Joe almost didn't say anything throughout the whole show.

It was all Dave Smith.

Yak, yak, yak, yak, yak.

So the guy who got so mad at us for talking about libertarians, he let this one slide, but I thought this was a dynamite description of libertarians by Douglas Murray.

Let's have a bit of hygiene on our own side, not lift every sewer gate.

And when you say our own side, you mean the right wing, broadly speaking?

Broadly speaking, and I'm sort of funny about libertarians.

I'm never quite sure.

I always think, yeah, I always say, I think libertarians are essentially the bisexuals of politics.

They should just choose, Joe.

They should choose.

It's kind of, they just want everything in the buffet.

That's very funny.

Well, I think we want some things.

I don't know.

Okay, that's a weird way to put it, but I guess.

I see your point.

Well, you see the point.

Okay.

So that was the only point at which Douglas Murray Murray was good in this thing.

He made a huge mistake, Douglas Murray.

But, well, he made a couple of things.

First of all, he feels that, you know, Russia started the Ukraine war.

It's like, okay.

But Douglas Murray, I don't know what you've been smoking.

But what his whole point, and I know, I've followed Douglas Murray.

He's an intellectual.

You know, he's fun to listen to.

I can't read his books.

He's quite good at debating.

Yes, but this was not a debate.

Yeah.

But in a formal debate setting, if you get to see him in one of those, he'll kill anybody.

He's one of those guys.

He's one of those guys, and there's a bunch of them, that you just don't debate with him because you're just going to, you can't win.

You're just going to have your ass handed to you because technique.

Yes.

So this was not a debate.

This was just a back and forth

at some point, just

a verbal diarrhea yelling match.

But the problem is he didn't go in and just say what he wanted to say.

And I will summarize it because a lot of people watch this, you know, and

Douglas Murray came off really bad because he came in saying, well, you know, all these people talking about

Israel and what they're doing in Gaza.

And they don't really have, you know, you're comedians, but yet you're talking like you are historians.

And, you know, you're not an expert.

And, you know, so of course that he put his foot in his mouth there because everyone's like, well, you have to be an expert.

Well, you can't just talk about stuff.

This is America.

You're lime.

We can say whatever we want.

But what he was really trying to say is he, too, is seeing the rise of anti-Jew, anti-Israel, Epstein, Mossad, blackmail, blackmail nation, Whitney Webb, all this stuff

very much on the rise.

And instead of saying, hey, cut that out,

this is not correct or

anything, but he didn't say any of that.

Instead, he kept trying to tell Joe Rogan he needs to have experts on.

It was the stupidest thing.

He couldn't just come out and say what he meant.

It's like, hey, easy on the Jew hate, which we've seen it.

This is why we distance ourselves from Noah Genda Social.

Yeah.

It was too much.

It's like, stop.

And to this day.

The follow-up was just as bad, if not worse.

Yeah.

Which

I've just given up on.

I haven't looked in.

I don't even look at my own Mastodon.

No, of course not.

And you were the big Mastodon promoter.

Yeah, well, until I wasn't.

And now it's just, you know, now it's turned into Zionist.

You're a Zionist, you're a Zionist boomer, shill.

What does Assad have on you?

Whoa, were you at Epstein Island?

It's insane.

Now, that said, it's insane.

Tulsi Gabbard not doing anybody any favors.

And lastly, sir, sir, as you know, declassification and rooting out weaponization and politicization of the intelligence community is a huge priority.

You know more than anyone else the very dangers and negative consequences of that.

I've got a long list of things that we're investigating.

We have the best of the best going after this.

Election integrity being one of them,

we have

evidence of how these electronic voting systems have been vulnerable to hackers for a very long time and vulnerable to exploitation to manipulate the results of the votes being cast, which further drives forward your mandate to bring about paper ballots across the country so that voters can have faith in the integrity of our elections.

And lastly, we've been scanning.

I've had over 100 people working around the clock to scan the

paper around RFK, Senator Robert F.

Kennedy's assassination, as well as Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination.

These have been sitting in boxes in storage for decades.

They have never been scanned or seen before.

We'll have those ready to release here within the next few days.

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but where's the Epstein files we were promised?

You know,

she took that same spiel.

That was from the cabinet meeting.

Yes, which is great.

It's run just like she took this morning spiel.

I have a clip of Tulsi Schwitzeroo, it's called.

And this is from

she refined that particular spiel and she went on Fox.

I think this was with Hannity.

I only have part of the clip, so I don't know if it was Hannah.

I think it was pretty sure it was Hannity.

And she does this bit, and it's the same basic thing, but what she's doing here is interesting.

Yes, she's leaving,

she's talking about what she's going to develop out of this, all this, you know, you're going to dig through all this old stuff, leaving out Epstein and then doing a little, and she did it on that clip too, a little bit.

This is more obvious.

And instead of going toward Epstein, she does a switcheroo at the end and starts talking about the faulty 2020 election.

And this is so seamless.

And it's like, is this really what is what is what is the deal here?

Let's play this and then maybe we can discuss it.

In other cases, they have been hidden with the hopes that no one would ever find them.

Related to the Senator Kennedy assassination files, the MLK assassination files, unlike the JFK files, these have never been scanned.

They've never been digitized.

These are pieces of paper, hundreds and thousands of them, that have been sitting in boxes at the National Archives and Records Agency.

So we've had over 100 people manually scanning every one of these pages, preparing them to fulfill what President Trump promised the American people, maximum transparency in the release of these files that have never been released before, publicly before.

We're not stopping there.

We know that not all of those documents have been turned over to the National Archives Agency.

And so we've got teams out there going and searching in warehouses at the FBI, at the CIA, and other places to uncover related documents that, for one reason or another, were never turned over before.

So President Trump is very serious, obviously, about working to achieve that maximum transparency.

That transparency will allow us to bring about accountability

around the Russia collusion hoax, for example.

The more we dig, the more we find the extent of the seriousness and the intent of that whole operation was

very consistent with what we found in Stalin's operation.

Show me the man and I'll show you the crime.

It is disheartening to see these things, but it also provides us the opportunity to tell the American people the truth about what's been going on so that we can make sure we try to bring about an end to it and bring about that accountability.

So what is is she going to?

What is she switching?

The switcheroo, I guess, was for

the Russia collusion hoax.

Who cares?

Yeah.

Yeah.

The whole thing is.

Who cares about the Russian collusion hoax?

Well, we want the president, the P.

Diddy,

we want Epstein.

We want P.

Diddy.

We want Epstein.

That's all we care about.

Yes, I'm with you.

I'm with you.

Yeah, no, no, nothing.

Nothing, nothing, nothing.

And then just to make matters worse, they're now calling her

Terrorist Barbie.

And I'm not quite sure what she's doing, Christy Gnome.

Christy Gnome.

They call her Terrorist.

She's crazy.

She's wearing these outfits.

She just loves dressing up as some sort of an agent, and she's wearing flack jackets and hats.

And she's going out there, and then she's grilling these guys.

Why did you do this?

With her sidearm, she has a sidearm.

It's ridiculous.

Well, here she is.

Now she's all dressed up and she's nice.

Hi, I'm Christine Helm, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security.

If you plan on traveling, we need your help to prevent delays and to prove your identity.

Get a real ID.

Starting May 7th, you will need a real ID to travel by air or to visit federal buildings in the United States.

These IDs keep our country safe because they help prevent fraud and they enhance security.

Please do your part to protect our country.

Go today and don't delay.

Or go to dhs.gov slash real-id.

Thank you.

Don't delay.

This bothers me, dude.

You have no idea how much this is.

Oh, I do.

It bothers me, too.

And she has a little story.

Yeah, but it bothers me because of your thesis.

Yeah,

because I'm right.

Yep, it's happening.

You're not right yet, but you're going to be.

And this is really what's bothering me.

Just the fact that I'm going to be right or the fact that what I said is going to happen?

The fact that you're going to be right about something that should not happen,

which is digital ID, which is what this is really headed toward.

There's no reason for this real ID bull crap.

It was resisted at the get-go from the get-go is Thomas Massey is the only guy still pushing against it.

And he's right.

What's the point?

How does it prevent fraud?

She should have said this will make our country safe and effective.

That's what she should have said because it will make our country very effective.

But according to The Guardian,

we will now see a journey pass.

A journey pass is going to come into play.

What is that going to be?

And this is an ICAO thing.

I'll tell you, on May 7th, you know, since the flying public

probably only has about 70% coverage of these real IDs, it's going to be a nightmare at the airport.

Well, so where they want to move this toward, and this is ICAO, the International Civil Aviation Organization.

So that's, you know, that is the UN body responsible for airline policy.

They are going to come up with a journey pass.

So you'll have this on your phone, which makes it very difficult for those of you who have one of our hot new books where you can store your phone, but you could take the book with you and then, you know, take it out of the book.

And it will have your entire journey on it.

So you only have to scan once upon entering the airport facial recognition.

And that's it.

You'll be good.

And they've been testing all of this.

TSA has been testing it with the facial recognition.

The boarding process is facial recognition.

They're just stringing it all together and they're going to make it official and call it the journey pass.

And you show up.

And they always do this with travel.

Everybody's got travel.

We've all like, okay, I got to take my shoes off.

Oh, it's annoying.

Okay, I'll get TSA pre-check.

Okay, then all my biometrics are now.

Now I'll get the global entry.

And they always do it with travel because we live in this connected travel world.

And that will soon be for everything.

Your journey pass.

Welcome to the restaurant.

Please let me scan your face.

Do you have a journey pass?

Oh, you're good to go.

Come on in.

And that will be your digital ID based on facial recognition.

It's unavoidable.

It's very bad, but it's unavoidable.

Every time you go to Costco now,

Journey Pass, you'll have, well, they won't even mention it because there'll be just some cameras there and then

they'll just dock it.

There would be no pass.

It'll be all, like you said, facial recognition is the digital ID.

And so you walk into Costco and you get, they boom, they take the picture.

You won't even know.

And the next thing, but it goes into the database, the government database.

Where was this guy on Tuesday, the 3rd?

Yep, yep, yep.

Oh, he was at Costco for an hour.

And he left Costco, and then we caught him.

He was in his car.

We had the license plate checker.

He

got home 20 minutes later, and he walked up the steps.

Yeah, we have the ring doorbell data.

And so he's in the house as we speak so we can bomb him.

I think drone him is the term.

We can drone him.

Drone the place.

He's there.

We know for a fact he's there.

This is why you need more kids.

You need at least five kids because for sure one of your kids is going to get droned for something.

So you need to have more kids than you normally would have because the government will drone one of them.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

None of this is good.

This is good.

Let's do some gaffes.

I got two gaff clips.

I'll just wet your appetite with gaffs.

Gaffs, gaffs, gaff, gaffes, g-a-f-e, gaff, gaff, gaff, gaff, g-a-f-f-e, golf, alpha, fox, fox, echo.

GAF.

I'm all ears.

These will be direct talks with the Iranians, and I want to make that very clear.

I also spoke to the president just last night about his goal when it comes to Iran.

And he has reiterated repeatedly to all of you publicly and also privately to his team here at the White House.

His ultimate goal and the ultimate objective is to ensure that Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon.

Now, I heard nuclear erection.

I don't know about you.

I heard nuclear erection, and I'm sticking to the nuclear power.

Play that little part again.

I didn't hear it.

The ultimate goal and the ultimate objective is to ensure that Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon.

Come on.

All right.

Well, this one's more clear then.

This is

this is the house whip.

Whip.

Whip.

Tom Emmer.

Which, by the way, Emmer in Dutch is bucket.

I'm not sure why.

Tom Bucket.

Tom Bucket.

Here's Tom Bucket, the House Whip.

This is a much clearer gaffe.

It's going to take every person in this room to get the job done.

And I know that we will because failure is simply not an option.

President Trump is counting on us.

Come on.

Come on.

Well, after President Pump, this one is very obvious.

President Trump is counting on us.

President Kunt?

That's what sounded like to me.

I'm just thinking that's what it was.

Let's listen again.

President Trump is counting on us.

Oh, I see.

That's where he got it.

He got it from counting.

Yeah, of course.

Of course.

Yeah, he was prisoner.

He was thinking

about the head.

He was reading Trump, and so he got the C into the.

He was wrong.

He was reading ahead.

He was reading ahead.

I know you.

No, that's all.

I got two.

Come on, I got two.

Where's yours?

Oh, and you could do a series.

I expect three, four, ten.

Yeah.

It's not like COVID.

We had everyone was like, we're taking the virus.

You need the virus shots.

I mean, the vaccine shots.

No, none of that.

Well, before we take a break, let's play another TikTok clip.

Okay, this will be good.

Let's do a TikTok clip because, gee, what do we do without phones?

If no one, if everyone had their phone in a book, we would have no TikTok clips.

And by the way, most they have to, I have to say now that the number of legitimate TikTok clips in my list, I just call them that because they're on Reels and scam, what are all these?

In case you hadn't noticed, every social network, every single one, is copying TikTok.

And it's all just video.

Just go look at the timeline on X.

It's all video.

And I've said this.

I think I said it on this show.

I said it on DH Unplugged.

There's a slight genius to TikTok that these other guys can't seem to figure out.

And I'm going to reveal it.

Go!

The big reveal.

And I don't understand why these other idiots, Facebook,

Insta.

Twitter, all of them, the TikTok videos that they play on TikTok are instantly downloadable with a simple click.

They will save any one of them to as an MP4 right off the site.

Well, you know, you don't have to go.

You know why?

Because they all have TikTok in them.

And so that, so

they have self-promotion in the clip.

Yes.

So at the end, they have the little TikTok jingle and it says TikTok.

Yep.

These other morons

can't figure this out?

No.

No.

No, they clearly can't.

And That's so obviously a great idea.

And so I, so I get to take, so I won't be on Twitter, and there's a TikTok clip with a promotion for TikTok

because it's so easy to download.

You just click, boom, it's downloaded.

You got the clip.

You can save it.

No, no, no, we can't do that.

Yeah,

it gives them promotion and saves them bandwidth.

It's very smart.

It's extremely smart, but the

just annoying as hell.

Okay, let's play the coffee girl.

I mean this with every fiber of respect in my body.

As a conservative woman, I do not want conservatives making my coffee.

I quite literally want a liberal making my coffee.

That is, we all have places in this world.

Liberals are great at making coffee, okay?

And I walked into a coffee shop today, and it was literally a blue-haired girl with piercings all over.

And this is the best latte I've ever had.

God is good.

God is real.

We all have a place on this earth.

It's It's a beautiful thing, really.

So, anyways, yeah.

Peace and blessings.

Blasphemy, I tell you.

Blasphemy.

Blasphemy.

Meanwhile, those liberals that make the great coffee, let's listen to one of them.

This is the Starbucks clip of some poor guy who has to actually work at a Starbucks and he's just miserable because he has to work eight hours.

People wonder why we need a union at Starbucks, and I

am literally about to quit.

Like I I don't know if I'm gonna do it but like I really want to.

I almost walked out today and I'm crying in the back room right now and I'm most crying on the floor.

It's just

I like I get s I'm I'm like a full-time student.

I get scheduled for twenty five hours a week and then on weekends they schedule me the entire day open to close.

I'm on the schedule for eight and a half hours.

both Saturday and Sunday.

I'm like three and a half hours into my shift.

There's so many customers and we have have four people on the floor all day.

Only five people were put on the schedule and somebody had to call out and there are four people running the whole store and there's so many customers and there's buzz and they scheduled five people.

We only have 13 people employed at this store and there's so many customers.

I think I could

We don't have fair scheduling.

Managers don't care about us.

Our manager was supposed to come in this weekend and he took himself off the schedule so he wouldn't be able to be held accountable for calling out.

He just literally tore down down the schedule that he was scheduled on and put up a new schedule where he wasn't on the schedule.

Also he couldn't have even seen that he was scheduled in the first place because he didn't want to be held accountable for not wanting to come in.

They don't want to help us.

We need a union because this can't happen.

This can't happen.

We need fair scheduling.

We need managers to hold themselves accountable for helping their workers.

They refuse to turn mobile orders off.

We need the liberty to be able to do that because there's so many mobile orders and I need to get through all of them.

And then people are yelling at me because I don't have their orders ready and they don't know what to do.

And a customer was misgendering me today, like really badly.

I didn't have their order ready, and so they were just like holly-talking to each other.

And they're like, She's clearly incompetent.

I have a full mustache and beard.

Oh, kick her at the end.

Nice.

Oh!

Okay, a couple things.

When I was a kid, when I was 16, and I worked my Saturday job at Falkenberg,

which was an electronic store, where we had to

hobbyists would come in and they won't be in the middle of the day.

Were they misgendering you?

Sometimes.

They would come in and they would.

And by the way, we had to be there at 7.30 and get ready.

And we had to set up the till.

The till, the till was a

semi-automatic.

And I'll explain that in a second.

So we had hobbyists come in and they'd say, yes, I want five.

Here's my list.

I have five

10k ohm capacitor resistors.

I have 15

microfarad.

Oh, yeah.

Microfarad capacitors.

And then I need this length of wire.

And you do all that.

And you had to put in a little bag.

And so you had to read the codes.

You had to look at the color codes to get it right to make sure, because there could be one in the wrong box because the nerd nerd across from you would notice it immediately that's not the right resistance and then you had to write it on a piece of paper carbon copy paper stick it into the till you didn't didn't have quite to crank the thing and they had it although you if the power went out you could crank it by hand you had to type in the numbers

and they went

and it spit the paper back out and then you had to give change you had to calculate the change and give them the change back and then by the time we were finally done it was a lunch hour you went and made out with the phone receptionist in the back.

That was a Saturday, man.

And these kids.

This is why you need multiple kids.

Some of them just need to put snow in their mouth when they come out.

This is wrong.

What happened?

No wonder we're losing.

Yeah.

This is very.

That kid at the Starbucks is the reason we're losing.

It's a noodle boy.

Oh, or a girl.

I mean, it was a girl boy.

It was a trans.

It was a vam.

I don't know I forgot my jingle.

You're a boomer.

I forgot my jingle.

You're a boomer.

Yes, boomer.

Call me a boomer what you want.

But that was, and that was in Holland.

That's not, that was my American spirit in Holland.

We used to have that.

We used to have that.

You used the wrong resistor in that drawer.

Yeah, you could probably see it a mile away if you were on the lookout.

Yeah.

Exactly.

And then you had to explain.

It's got a blue line on it, not a red line.

What are you doing?

You had to explain why you wanted the cassette tape with chrome with Dolby and

how you used it and how you would record with or without Dolby.

Oh, I remember chrome tape.

Chrome tape, baby.

Yeah.

That was the good stuff.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, then here's how I got lucky.

Then the VIC-20 came out, the Commodore VIC-20.

And then everything changed from that moment.

Because then I was writing database programs for dentists on the VIC-20, and you record your database on your cassette tape.

This is how we grew up.

And then during lunch, we no longer made out with the receptionist in the back.

No, we were copying ROMs, game ROMs,

copying it.

Ah, there's a new ROM with a game.

Let's copy it on the cassette tape.

Take it home with me.

That's what we were doing.

This is why I think ham radio is good for kids.

There's some of these new, um, the new Chinese ham radios, so uh,

building building on the success of the Baofang,

and they're completely moddable.

You can do all kinds of cool stuff with them now.

Kids should get into that.

Yeah, they should.

It's fun.

You know, it's all digital modes.

You can message back and forth.

They got, you know, they've modded it.

So you've got like a text messaging inside of it, point to point.

There's all kinds of amazing things that are being done with that.

Yeah.

It's the, what is it?

Let me see.

I should probably tell people what that is.

It is the

gosh, I thought I had it here.

No, I guess I don't have it.

I thought I saved it.

Oh, yeah, here it is.

The

Kwan Sheng, Q-U-A-N-S-H-E-N-G, Kwan Shang UVK5 or the UVK6.

These are highly hackable.

A lot of fun.

A lot of fun.

Get your ham radio license.

You have one?

No, I ordered one, though, right away.

Oh, yeah.

How much do they go for?

Are they like $25?

Oh, geez.

It's unbelievable.

And they finally, they don't come with a stupid charging stand anymore.

Now you can just charge them with USB-C.

I just stick a thing in.

Yeah, stick a thing in.

Yeah, that charging stand is dumb.

Oh, because, you know, because if you have a couple of these radios, you you have 15 different charging stands.

You don't know which one fits in where.

No, it's a disaster.

It's a disaster.

But without it,

even batteries that go in cameras from now on should have a USB connection.

It should have enough circuitry.

You can shrink it down.

Yes.

And should charge within.

It should not have the outside.

It shouldn't be necessary to hook it up to anything.

And I suggest you get it now.

You get it now because for some reason I have a feeling this won't fall under semiconductors.

Probably not.

Yeah, so

it might cost you $35.

Think of all the fun you can have, kids.

Learn about antenna technology.

It's great.

And with that, I want to thank you for your courage.

Say in the morning to you, the man who put the seas in the nuclear erection.

Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr.

John C.

DeVore.

Yeah, win the morning to you, Mr.

Adam Curry.

In the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs subs in the water, and all the dames and nights up.

In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.

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Troll count, troll count.

There we go, trolls.

We have 2,431 trolls at the peak here in the troll room, which is good to have the trolls here.

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And sometimes it's useful, usually not, but sometimes they're talking amongst each other.

It's like being in a television studio audience, but you can talk to each other.

How about that?

Imagine you can laugh, you can cry, you can be mad, and it's all at trollroom.io.

Or get one of the modern podcast apps.

Pretty soon, you'll just be able to get podcasts on one of those fancy new ham radios from China.

They'll just download it right onto it.

You can share the podcast on the ham radio.

I'm telling you, the modders are at it.

Podcastapps.com.

Value for value is the way we have chosen to live.

It's been pretty good over 17 years.

Until today.

Through the ups and the downs.

It is what it is.

You know, it's, it kind of, we roll with the economic times.

When you're hurting, we're hurting.

When you're doing good, we're still hurting.

Sometimes,

sometimes it's really good, but not always.

But it's okay because it's value for value.

And that doesn't just mean it has to be monetary, but I will say the end of show mixes have dropped off a bit.

It's not like less people are listening or, I'm sorry, downloading the podcast because that's what the metric is.

By the way,

I was surprised.

Is DH Unplugged now doing

in-show advertising?

We've done it before.

Oh, I didn't realize you'd done it before.

Oh, yeah, we've done it before.

On and off, we do it every so often.

It takes somebody to come up with something.

We've also refused a lot of advertising

for various reasons.

But once in a while, somebody comes up, and Horus has worked with Interactive Brokers for a while on his other shows.

So they wanted to do this show.

So he said, sure.

Yeah.

The only thing is, like, but then

I know I have an interactive.

I think I still have an Interactive Brokers account.

I haven't traded it in many years.

But now they have like some kind of prop bet.

We can bet, you know, yes, this is news to me.

I think that's what they're trying to promote.

You know, what's that company that did the, you know, that's just some,

there's a bunch of these online operations that you can bet on stupid stuff.

Like, you know, who's

like, you could bet on the election.

You could bet on Trump versus.

Yeah, prop bets.

Or just bets.

But they're just bets.

They're not even prop bets.

Prop bets specific to sports

in general.

Although it would apply to politics, like say in a debate, they would have a prop bet on how many times the guy's going to be.

Yeah, but this is like, you know, I think the weather's going to be bad next week.

You can bet on it.

Yeah,

that was very interesting.

That's gambling.

That's gambling.

That's not, that's not.

What is that?

It's gambling.

It is gambling.

By the way.

But

it's like the

generate gamblers.

I told a story before.

I used to know these guys when I was in college.

There were these guys.

Polymarket.

Polymarket.

Thank you, trolls.

Polymarket.

They were degenerate gamblers, and they were always, and you run into those, they lived in a house, there's four of them.

And one time we picked them up to go bowling with a little group of us, and

I went to their place with somebody else to get it.

Come on, let's go.

And they say, okay, well, hold on.

So Jim's got to go get his coat.

And so one of the guys went, had to go back digging around in the back of the house.

And while the guy was

on the process of going to get his coat, the other two guys that were there had to flip coins for quarters because i mean they just were gambling

they couldn't stop gambling they were they gambled on everything

you know listening to that uh because i i typically i'll just listen to podcasts i'm not really a big podcast watcher uh so i'm listening to that three hours and nine minutes of that horrible debate between douglas murray and dave and mainly dave smith and a little bit of joe rogan in there and every 15 minutes they insert ads, and a lot of it was gambling.

There's a lot.

And then you get free money.

Like here, you get $150 to bet for free.

You have to use it within, you have to use it within $100.

And if you stop betting, they'll come under and offer you some free money because they figure you're going to blow through that and get back into the addiction part of it, which means you're just going to lose.

Probably.

No, probably about it.

It's designed for you to lose your money.

No.

Yeah, just, but even just ads by itself, like, oh, especially if it's such a riveting conversation.

Oh, it's very jarring.

I'm glad we chose a different path.

The path we chose is value for value, time, talent, or treasure, which means you can do a lot for the show.

There's people working on a new, actually we could use a couple, but I'd like to stack up a couple of best ofs, like really kick-ass best of

shows that are,

which are always fresh and new because you can assemble them in so many different ways, so many different themes.

Bingit.io is your friend in that case.

You can find any topic in every single episode, every clip.

It's thank you, Sir Denonymous.

That's a great example.

Sir Deanonymous created that, Bingit.io for us.

You can search everything on that site.

It's unbelievable how good that is.

Every single show going back to episode one, all the show notes, all the transcripts, all the clips, all index.

You just type in blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it pops it up.

That's how I have to go back all the time.

Like, did we talk about it?

Yes, we did talk about it.

Because you forget.

So we have artists who do stuff for us.

And

we appreciate that because art is hard, even if you're using tools like Photoshop, the GIMP, or yes, indeed, AI.

It's still very hard because you have to have a creative insight, a creative gene.

It's still art.

You still have to come up with something that actually works.

And kind of failed last show.

We chose what we thought was the best.

I mean, again, we'll blame ourselves.

We just didn't have something that hit it.

This was an old theme.

It was the cell phone in the drawer.

Which people did like just looking at the responses on

X.

That was a cute piece.

It was cute, yes.

But I mean, it wasn't, we weren't blown away by it.

There were several, well, first of all, it's Tanstaff, also.

There are no such thing as a free lunch.

We finally figured out what that means.

And Tanstaff

has won several times.

Let's take a look at what we had.

NoagendaArtGenerator.com is where you can follow along.

You can actually see the artists uploading art live as we talk, as we do the show, and all the way up because we choose the art right after we're done.

You know, we get the opening little blip.

We do the credits.

And we try to delay as long as possible to give everybody as much chance to get their artwork in.

And I personally now like the

Blackberry with the crack screen.

You didn't like that because you felt that people couldn't see it was a Blackberry with a cracked screen.

No, it didn't look like a cracked screen.

It looked like an iBall, like an eyeball.

Iris.

Like an iris.

Yeah, that was a fair point.

Let's see.

There were more cell phones in the drawers.

We had MAGA credentials, which is okay.

There wasn't much.

No.

Well,

a lot of books, a lot of hollow books, but

you're so anti-disciplinary.

This is like the, this is, you know, you've done this.

You started to do this, I think, about it, I don't know, six months ago, well, maybe before that.

You're looking for like a callback theme.

Yeah.

And you just take it through the whole show.

So at the very end of the show, you'll probably make some other comment about the hollow books.

Because I believe in this idea.

Yeah, I know you do.

And you believed in it too.

But then when I started to come up with some real implementation ideas, you started walking it back.

You're not going to sell any of this.

It's too expensive.

Walking it back, walking it back.

I mean,

I don't like to do this to you, but you set yourself up for it.

You do.

That's okay.

This is funny.

This is humorous.

It would be funnier if we had the actual product in production.

It would be.

Yeah.

Jay can do the cover.

She knows how to, you can print it at home.

Oh, please.

Now you're cheapening the product.

Well, okay.

And you're making her do the work.

Well, we cut her in.

She's always okay.

Well, you know, she could charge.

Sure.

You guys produce books.

You have a publisher.

I can't get back to the point.

We were talking about art.

I was.

It was lots of hollow book art.

It was nice.

Let me see.

I think that was it.

Just a lot of Trump AI.

No, no, no, no.

It's not going to happen.

This Darren O'Neill is just wasting compute.

Stop wasting compute, Darren O'Neill.

I think he's got a

rut.

Well, no, he's got a pays.

Yeah, of course he pays.

And so he has to get his money's worth.

This is a flat fee.

Well, the funniest one, although it would have been good if it wasn't if it wasn't Trump on an eagle, but it was kind of like the farmer's wife type level art with crayon.

Yeah.

That he that somehow got that.

Yeah.

I mean, farmer's wife could have done this.

We would have picked.

Well, not Trump.

Stop with the Trump stuff.

You know, it's

no,

I just don't think that's, uh, I don't think it's, it's no good.

Well, I think that was it, wasn't it?

Yeah, there's nothing much to say.

All right, Tom Staffel, congratulations.

Uh, another win for you.

Of course, these other artists, you've probably seen it.

Your art will likely get used in the chapters, which you can see in the modern podcast apps.

Uh, get one of those: Podverse, Podcast Guru, Podcast Addict, Fountain, you name it.

It's all there.

Podcastapps.com.

Now, we're going to thank people who support us monetarily.

What we'd like to do is up front in this segment, thank our executive and associate executive producers.

What is that, you ask?

Well, we thank everybody who sends in $50 or above.

And we don't do under 50 for reasons of anonymity.

People do want to just be able to donate and know that we're not going to mess it up because we're famous at doing that.

So $200 or above, we will read your note and you get an associate executive producer credit, which is just as valid as something that you'd get from Hollywood.

I mean, you literally can be right up there with Dana Brunetti.

Dana Brunetti, who just took all the riches out of the country,

gives nothing back to America, but you gave something back to America.

You're a good associate executive producer because you helped produce the best podcast in the universe.

Then we have the executive producer credit, and these are good for a lifetime.

Just go look at INDB.com, and that is $300 or above.

And we will start with our first executive producer.

We have three of them today.

And that starts with Darth Penguin.

Sounds like a legit name.

Darth Penguin from

Darth Penguin.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Legit.

From Streamwood, Illinois, and comes in with $1,080 and $0.8 cents.

So that's a 10 boob.

10 boob.

And And Darth Penguin said...

10 boob boobs.

10 boob.

Yeah, it's a 10 boob.

Like a dog.

He says,

this gift of treasure to the best podcast in the universe is for a boob instanite.

Nice.

Well, that's an interesting idea.

Boob Instanite.

That's right.

Yeah, boob Instanite.

I recently helped elevate totally not serial killer Kate to achieve her damedun.

Damedun.

It would be truly amazing that with her ascension to the roundtable, that I, being deduced last podcast, can be part of the royalty at the same time.

I donate of my own free will, my treasure to Lord Adam and Lord John.

I request left-hand brewery milk, stout nitro, and Vito, and Nick's pizza.

Uh, did I get the stout?

I was, I was gonna get some of that cheap Mexican beer.

Okay, make sure you have a Nick's pizza.

You got it.

Also, double karma for the Noah Genda family and a Scott Simon jingle for Susan from Tinley Park.

Did you get the Scott Simon thing or

producer sent in?

Yes, I did.

I did.

But I didn't know what to do.

It's very good.

It's very funny.

Well, I sent him a note because I want to know

what he's up to.

That's him doing Scott.

No, I asked him, and he answered.

Oh, I asked him too.

I didn't hear back.

You probably blocked him.

You like Senator.

Is everyone compliant with you?

I didn't block him because I got the thing to begin with.

He does the Scott.

Okay, where's the Scott Simon come from?

11 Labs.

labs

he says okay he says 11 labs has gotten pretty good with you can I guess you can upload a sample now yeah no it's been always good I've been wanting to use I don't pay for the 11 labs stuff so I'm gonna have to pay for it because I would like to upload some voices yes and because these voices that I use for the fake end-of-show yeah they're getting pretty annoying They're the same people and you can't do too many.

Oh, you're beyond your limit.

Your free limits are over.

Oh,

because you'll adjust it by adding an exclamation point and then it's like, I'm sorry, your free limit is over.

You can't do that.

Your free limit.

You have to wait four hours.

Yeah, I don't get that.

But the

yes, okay.

Well, the Scott Simon that he's put in there is killer.

Well, I have it.

I mean, I can play it for a second.

Well, it's very long.

Well, we can just play it for a second.

I'll play a little bit of it.

Okay.

Okay.

So here's a little bit of it.

It's bonus clip, everybody.

Good morning.

This is weekend edition from NPR.

I'm Scott Simon, and I'd like to begin today's show with a moment of quiet reflection.

Not for any particular reason.

I just enjoy the sound of my own breathing.

It reassures me that for now,

I am still here.

Our top story today, scientists have issued yet another dire warning about climate change.

The oceans are rising, the forests are burning, and quite frankly, I can't help but wonder: why

am I still paying rent?

So

there's not enough.

This is quite good, by the way.

I'll put it in the show notes.

It's like four minutes.

There's not enough marbles in the mouth, but it's pretty good.

But what's good is he wrote a great script.

The script is dynamite.

That's what he did.

He wrote a great script.

And so, again,

you can't say to AI,

create a four-minute funny piece of Scott Seidman.

AI will not give you this.

I should just lie down in the middle of a Whole Foods parking lot and let nature take me.

But first, an update on my personal life.

Play a little more.

Okay.

Hold on a second.

Let me get back to where I was.

Okay.

Here.

Financial struggles of young Americans who claim they will never be able to afford a home.

But have they considered simply inheriting one?

We'll speak to an anti-Trump Harvard economist who has never put a pistol to their head because they couldn't pay the electric bill and who once described his darkest moment as, quote, the time my dad made me drive the Porsche with the cloth seats.

That's talent, right?

That's a talent that AI cannot come up with.

No.

I I don't think so.

But this is also the only thing AI is good at so far.

This is the only use that I approve of.

I think the art, I think it does good art.

Yeah.

For quick art, spot art, the throwaway stuff that people used to get paid for.

And

probably not quite as good as

great creativity, but great creativity is rare.

So even this guy who did the, I think it's Ryan,

who did the Scott Simon material, which is hilarious.

Yes.

That is not any, not anyone can write this

kind of

funny stuff.

So because

you are listening.

Especially with the Scott Simon voice in mind.

Because you are listening to the donation segment, we will do a little piece of Scott Simon in between each donation.

Which won't be a lot for this episode, I promise.

Definitely.

So,

double karma for the No Agenda family: a Scott Simon Jingle for Susan from Tinley Park.

She'd appreciate it, she'd appreciate it.

I'd like to be knighted as Sir Darth Penguin of Loctucky.

Carry on with your critical analysis and tips.

Looking forward to seeing my fellow No Agenda compatriots soon at Reggie's Rock House in the near future.

ITM Suffering Sucker Tash.

I'm Scott.

Double up.

karma.

There you go.

Double up karma, and we will play another Scott Simon drop right here.

End quote.

Speaking of regret, I'd like to issue a formal apology to the woman I dated in 1997, who told me she was going to move to New York and become an actress.

I laughed.

I said, You, Broadway?

She's now a four-time Tony winner.

Darrell Dodarian's up, and he's in Trabucco Canyon, California.

He came in with 333.33.

He's our old buddy.

He's a

probably a Baron.

Been around.

Thank you for an outstanding product, he writes.

Jobs, Karma, for my wife, please.

And didn't he do the cutting boards for us recently?

That was Error, wasn't it?

I don't think so.

Yeah, I think it was.

I think he did the cutting boards.

Yes.

Yeah, I thought so.

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

You've got karma.

I, meanwhile, am sitting here slowly realizing that every major event of my life has been leading me to an inevitable and humiliating death.

Andrew Glenn from Skelmorley.

Wow, Skelmorley, that's in the United Kingdom.

North

Ayrshire

comes in with 315.85, our last executive producer for today, but has a note that will take us

a long time to read.

I first started listening to No Agenda around 2009.

Then in early 2010, it was on your show that I first heard Nigel Farage's famous damp rag speech to the then EU president Herman von Rompuy.

It was barely covered at all by the UK media at the time.

This then confirmed what I long suspected about the media on both sides of the Atlantic.

And to hear you guys laying out the hypocrisies, omissions, deceits, and biases so clearly has been both entertaining and useful.

Listening to no agenda over the years has put me ahead of the curve on so many issues since then, compared to my friends.

Who would never admit this and who still think me something of a crackpot?

I really appreciate your coverage of Europe and the UK in particular, especially now as we in Gitmo Nation East are really under the caush, kosh being a reference to a policeman's truncheon, in terms of freedom of speech, where an inappropriate tweet can get you three years in jail.

I'll send you suitable material when I find it to help you tell the world of our predicament.

Your business model is amazing for we producers, though I appreciate that it must have entailed a huge risk for you both.

But you have stuck with value for value over the years, despite giving your respective talents, no doubt having missed out on many more lucrative opportunities.

Yes, microphones, hollow books.

Thanks for that.

So I feel slightly ashamed that it has taken me this long to reach knighthood.

I shall be known as

Commodore Sir Andrew Glenn of Skelmorley, Knight of the Dropped Note, a reference to my occasionally erratic musicianship.

At the round table, I'd like to request a fresh crusty bloomer loaf.

Oh my, what is a bloomer loaf?

I have no idea.

I think it means

balloon bread.

With unsalted butter and a jar of bovril.

Bovril, you may remember from your time in the UK, Adam, is essentially what you end up with if you boil a cow for long enough.

Most consider this a thick black goo as the basis for a winter drink or bullion, but I love it spread on bread.

Those Brits.

I believe it is not readily available in the U.S., but thankfully the legend has it the round table is in Tintang Tintigal, England.

It is actually available in the U.S.

Yes, best wishes, Commodore.

You know, so I actually do have the latest crazy English police clip.

Did you see this?

Is this the one about

it's illegal to tell somebody to speak English?

Yes, that's the one.

It may be, I tried to filter it, but in essence, a metro police cop is questioning a citizen for having insulted another citizen by saying, speak English.

Apparently, during some conversations between yourself, apparently you have alleged, we weren't here, so I don't know you've said it, but you've alleged to say, speak English.

Or what's that?

Speak clearly.

Speak clearly.

No,

the gentleman's passed on the desk.

Yeah, he said,

No, and that's fine, and that's why we've just come to speak because

potentially someone could perceive that as a hate crime.

And that's the kicker.

It can be seen as a hate crime.

So, but it's a hate crime to say speak English.

So, the thing is.

What is wrong with these people?

And the fact that these police can do this with a straight face?

Yes.

It's really quite nuts.

The thing that's so crazy is apparently you can just say, you can just call the cops and say, I feel insulted.

That's what drives me crazy about it.

You can just say, I feel insulted, and then that's enough.

Like, how does that make any sense?

There's no written law.

It's just if you, if you make someone feel bad, then that is a hate crime.

It's insane.

It's insane.

So I feel you.

I feel you, future night.

And let's do another Scott Simon.

Support for NPR comes from the Holloway Institute for Banks.

Oh, how did that happen there?

Never mind.

Keep going.

I'll come back.

That ending is quite good, too, by the way.

Yeah, we'll play it at the end.

We'll play it at the end.

Eli the coffee guy comes up already.

Yeah.

In the fourth slot

in Bensonville, Illinois, 20413.

And of course, you've had a lot of coffee today, I can tell.

Yeah.

You're ornery.

Yeah.

Ornery.

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Hold on.

Of those who truly deserve it.

Support also comes from the Oswald Dupree Association of Retards, dedicated to a future where we put every retard to good use.

I forgot about that part.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Finally, we have Linda Lou Patkin always coming in here to support the show and support her business, which seems to be going quite well.

She's in Lakewood, Colorado, but that doesn't matter where she is because you can reach her very simply for

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Let's vote for jobs.

You thought, Army.

Yes, don't worry.

I'll put the Scott Simon full clip into the show notes.

You'll be able to

grab a copy of that.

Thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers.

Those of you who are here, we really appreciate you, especially our brand new boob Instantite.

We'll be Instaniting you later on.

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It's always fun to try and figure out what your donation numerology means.

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Thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers.

Our formula is this:

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So I have some Bobby the Op news.

Oh, okay.

Yes, let me see.

You know, so

you saw the

You saw the

cabinet meeting, and Bobby the Op made his announcement, which turned into a little piece here.

Although this piece was quite interesting, and then I have some analysis from Margaret Brennan from this morning, along with some doctor.

But this is, in essence, what he's promising.

This morning, a commitment to find possible causes of autism within six months.

By September, we will know what has caused the autism epidemic, and we'll be able to eliminate those exposures.

Health Secretary RFK Jr.

promising during the President's cabinet meeting that he will find out why autism rates are rising.

We've launched a massive

testing

and research effort that's going to involve hundreds of scientists from around the world.

In 2000, about one out of every 150 children was diagnosed with autism.

Today, the CDC says it's one in every 36.

RFK says the numbers are closer to one in 31.

That's a horrible statistic, isn't it?

And there's got to be something artificial out there that's doing this.

Experts say some of the increase is due to more awareness and a broader definition of autism spectrum disorder.

It is possible that a yet unknown factor can also be contributing to the rise, but research thus far shows genetics and advanced maternal age can potentially increase the risk.

To come together and say that we're just going to get a bunch of scientists together and get an answer by September, that seems a little far-fetched.

I will say a lot of good can happen when the scientific community comes together and collaborates with a unified goal.

RFK.

By the way, this is quite funny.

It's like now everyone's saying, well, you can't do that.

Be a scientist.

Whatever happened to 97% of all scientists believe carbon dioxide contributes to man-made global warming.

Now, all of a sudden, that doesn't count when it comes to Bobby the Op.

When the scientific community comes together and collaborates with a unified goal, RFK, long a vaccine skeptic, has raised questions questions about a possible link between the measles vaccine and autism.

I don't think he's ever said the measles vaccine.

In fact, he said quite the opposite.

He said too many childhood vaccines is a possibility.

I don't think he's ever singled out the measles vaccine.

But it's okay because, yeah, it's just news.

Between the measles vaccine and autism, despite dozens of high-quality studies refuting the claim.

High-quality studies.

Kennedy has tapped a previously discredited vaccine skeptic, David Geyer, as a senior data analyst.

There is some worry that there could be some bias, or this research may not be responsibly looking for a correct cause.

RFK did not offer details on how the research will be conducted, but says the National Institutes of Health will oversee it and look into everything.

Now,

I will say that

for sure the DSM-5

broadened the spectrum of autism.

So definitely there's an increase in the numbers because, you know, oh, he's got Tourette's autism.

Oh, he's been quiet this week, autism.

There's a lot of that.

But there's just, I mean, even Robert De Niro had a whole documentary about his kid who got autism coincidentally after he got a whole bunch of vaccinations as a kid.

But of course, he had to pull that from his own film festival because that was the wrong narrative.

So now we go to CBS,

Face the Nation, Margaret Renner with a doctor.

Many parents.

Who is the former, what is he?

He's former FDA dude.

Probably no.

ASD diagnosis rates are on the increase in this country.

The CDC says the current numbers are one in 36 American children.

This is a very broad spectrum of neurodevelopmental disorders.

There's no established cause.

On Thursday, the HHS Secretary Kennedy said he's got hundreds of scientists from around the world working on it, and he promised this.

By September, we will know what has caused the autism epidemic and we'll be able to eliminate those exposures.

That gives tremendous hope to a lot of people.

Do you know anything about that ongoing research?

I know a minimal amount of effort that's

going on to try to re-look at prior autism

research, but I'm not aware of what is being discussed there.

But I cared for leukemia patients for

a significant number of years.

What?

What does that have to do with the price of bread?

What?

I don't know.

It was like this weird switcheroo.

Well, I cared for leukemia patients.

Real important stuff, not this RFK Jr.

nonsense.

Giving people false hope is something you should never do.

Oh, that's the connection.

Yeah, false hope.

hope.

I care for a lot of leukemia patients, and giving people false hope is not good because it causes issues.

That's not what we're talking about.

Nobody's giving anybody false hope about anything.

They're trying to figure out what started it.

There's always hope, and I have seen miraculous cures take place in kids who I know personally cured from leukemia.

Cancer-free.

It does happen, doctor.

Is something you should never do.

It is absolutely.

You can be incredibly supportive of people.

Wait, wait, wait, stop.

It's still beside the point.

I don't care if anyone's cured for any reason whatsoever.

False hope and finding what causes autism is a false equivalency.

Yes.

That's not the same.

Who cares about false hope one way or the other?

Okay, so it does work.

He's looking for a reason that this is happening.

What is this doctor talking about?

Well, I think he's trying to discredit Bobby.

Well, he's doing a crappy job of it.

But giving them false hope is wrong.

If you just asked me, as a scientist, is it possible to get the answer that quickly?

I don't see any possible way.

And remember, you're talking to the person who came up with Operation Warp Speed for vaccines.

Autism is an incredibly complicated issue.

Wait a minute.

This guy came up with Operation Warp Speed for vaccines?

This is the guy?

Well, isn't that interesting?

You may want to

change your voice.

Yes, I came up with Operation Warp Speed.

You know, I don't think you want to be broadcasting that, bruh.

So we have the issue of diagnosis bias.

We don't know how many of those cases are true, how much of this is true growth of autism, how much of this is just that we now have diagnostic criteria.

Okay, so hold on.

What was Operation Warp Speed designed to do?

To ram through an unproven gene therapy disguise as a vaccine to save people from autism?

It was to develop a vaccine that gave people hope.

And what is the fear of all the vaccine manufacturers about autism?

That somehow these vaccines, especially the 80 that they now give kids instead of the five or six when I was a kid.

Yeah.

I'm sorry.

The troll room has other ideas.

It was to call the elderly.

Well, there's that.

We're going to ignore all that.

But the point is, this guy is a mouthpiece for the vaccine people.

Oh, yeah.

So he is not going to do anything that's going to encourage Bobby Kennedy in any way, shape, or form if there's even a suspicion that this is going to be traced back to vaccinations.

So this guy is a bad actor who should not even be on the Brennan show.

Well,

imagine that.

Imagine the mainstream media putting on someone to defend the big pharmas.

The president of the United States said something artificial is causing autism rates to go up.

On Thursday, he said, maybe you stop taking something, you stop eating something, or maybe it's a shot.

Did he say that?

Did he say that?

Yeah, he did.

Oh, wow.

Oh, wow.

Oh, wow.

Oh, wow.

But something's causing it.

Right after that, RFK appeared.

The HHS secretary appeared on Fox News and dismissed 14 studies that have shown no link between autism and vaccines.

He said it is an epidemic.

Epidemics are not caused by genes.

Genes can provide a vulnerability, but you need an environmental toxin.

So we know that it is an environmental toxin that is causing this cataclysm.

And we are going to identify it.

Oh, that sounds real.

Is there scientific evidence ruling out genetics as a cause of ASD?

Oh, this is good.

This is so good.

What do you think his answer is?

Well, he's going to have to deflect

away from vaccination.

Yes,

to be

denied, deflect, and defund or something.

Let's see what he says.

There's no scientific evidence ruling out genetics.

In fact, there's data that has been published that say that genetics may contribute to autism.

That's what he says.

There are other.

That's what he said.

Say data that suggests that perhaps environmental factors may.

But one has to be incredibly careful, incredibly careful about making associations between environmental factors and autism.

There's a wonderful graphic that shows that

Coca-Cola increase goes along with the increase in autism.

What?

He just threw big food under the bus.

He just threw Coca-Cola under the Coca-Cola.

Hey, dude, dude, dude, hold on a second.

You know, we have Coke as an advertiser.

Could you please calm it down down a little bit over there?

But there's also a wonderful graphic that you can find online that shows that the increase in spending on organic food also goes along with the rise in autism.

Hey,

the whole foods.

The whole foods account is in jeopardy.

Stop it, Margaret.

False causality.

Scientists

do not.

want to find false causality.

We want to find true causality.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

One more clip here from this Jim Ogre.

It stood out to us that Secretary Kennedy has hired someone named David Geyer to conduct analysis of the links between autism and vaccines.

He was charged by the state of Maryland in 2011 with practicing medicine without a license.

That was weeks after his father's medical license was suspended

for putting autistic children at risk by giving them a hormone blocking agent.

Wow.

You mean like a trans operation?

I mean, gender-affirming health care?

So, what should the public know or expect from the work that he will do?

Wow, she's so dramatic about this.

You know, this woman should be off the air.

No, no,

no.

I mean, you want NPR to shut down, PBS to shut down, Margaret Brennan to get off the air.

I want them to put us out of business.

Well, okay, you better get those hollow books ready.

So, what should the public know or expect from the work that he will do for the U.S.

government?

So, all I can say is I would not conceive.

He's, to the best of my knowledge, he's not had any training after college in

any of the sciences that we value here.

What I think we can expect.

Wait a minute.

Do you mean like medical school?

Is that what he means?

Training after college is that what that means so he didn't go to medical he specifically says sciences that we value oh any of those so like genetic studies or uh yeah who knows yeah okay whatever they value the sciences that we value here um what i think we can expect is the expected that there will be an association determined um between vaccines and autism

because it's already been determined this is not how science science is conducted.

Wow.

You should have said predetermined.

Yeah.

Because that would have had more impact.

He should have said, it's already been predetermined because that has an onerous sound to it as opposed to determined.

Yeah.

He screwed up.

Yeah, he did.

He's going to get a memo on this from Pfizer.

Hey, dude.

So I got, I have two HHS skips.

Hey, dude.

Hey, dude.

Hey, dude.

Watch your language.

Hey, dude.

Yeah, exactly.

HHS late cutbacks.

Trump administration officials stunned local health departments across the country when they announced in March that they wanted to take back $11 billion

in public health grants.

Jackie Fortier with our partner, KFF Health News, reports.

Local health departments have relied on the money from the Department of Health and Human Services for years.

The grants began during the pandemic, but could be used for other health issues, such as mental illness, addiction, and infectious diseases.

We're going to cancel 18 vaccine clinics.

That's Teresa Cullen.

She's director of Arizona's Pima County Health Department.

The department lost $1 million in the clawbacks.

HHS spokesperson Bianca Rodriguez-Feliciano said the department wants the money back because the COVID pandemic is over.

It just temporarily blocked the cuts in some states, including Arizona.

We got used to it.

After a group of state attorneys just

more money.

We got used to the money.

Free money.

You can't take that away.

You gave it to us during COVID.

Dude, but Cullen says Arizona state officials told her to stop the work the money was paying for.

We've eliminated two and a half months of the provision of care.

Other states, including Texas, Minnesota, and Washington, also canceled vaccine clinics they had on the calendar.

In Washoe County, Nevada, the surprise cuts mean two contract staffers will be let go.

Their job is setting up and marketing vaccination events, including for state-mandated back-to-school shots for illnesses such as measles.

Okay, when I was a kid, back to school meant you got a new eraser and a new pencil and a sharpener and maybe a pencil case.

I don't remember back to school shots.

Back to school shots.

Hey, kids, it's time for your back to school shots.

Lisa Lautritz is director of clinical health services for the area.

She's canceling community vaccine drives that were scheduled to start this summer.

Without that team, I won't be able to do it because our core team can't be in in two places at once.

But I don't understand.

What did they do before COVID?

What were they doing?

I don't know.

I guess they weren't doing any of this bullcrap.

Well, what shots do you need when you go back to school?

COVID shots?

Well, probably flu,

which now turns out there's a really good Campbell clip.

I retweeted it on

that Dr.

Campbell guy, that British guy, or

the British guy who comes out and he shows a bunch of studies and shows, you know, how something doesn't work.

And the latest is that you get 26% better chance of getting the flu if you got the shot.

Oh, yay.

This year is way up.

It's way up.

So you're going to get the flu for sure if you get the shot.

Oh, that's great.

Yeah.

It's part two of this, I think.

That core team of nurses doesn't have time to run the local clinic and do the setup for community events.

Community events?

Yeah.

What is going on?

Community events.

You don't need a community event.

We need to do like a cornhole.

But what is your community?

Community event.

Community event.

It's like potlug dinner.

That means they will no longer be out and about offering shots at churches and senior centers.

Okay.

Come to Fredericksburg.

Please stand in front of our church and offer shots.

Shots.

That'll be funny.

Free shots.

Free shots.

Yeah, you get shot all right.

Instead, she says patients will have to make an effort to come to them.

Oh, no.

Bam.

Oh, John, very good.

Very good.

And you were worried I was going to mess it up, but it worked out.

That was a God moment.

Perfect.

As someone that doesn't have insurance or doesn't have access to health care, they're going to be the ones that suffer from the cuts.

This isn't the first time in her 30-year career that Lautritz has dealt with the loss of funding, but she says her community is sicker now because of budget cuts over a decade ago.

For example, a local grant that paid for home visits to pregnant women was eliminated.

More babies in the county are being born with syphilis, which Lautritz says could be prevented if that program was still around.

What?

I know.

I said the same thing.

Wait a minute.

Do we now need syphilis shots?

Like vaccines?

Well, it used to have, they used to go around door to door, but now that they stop going around door to door, more babies are being born with syphilis.

Wow.

What the hell is that all about?

Wow.

That's some, that's, I thought I had a fear-mongering clip lined up.

This, I mean, you, you know what?

I got to tell you, that series was definitely worth it.

Thank you very much.

Definitely worth it.

Good.

Very.

Okay.

Here was going to be my now,

in comparison, pathetic fear-mongering clip.

So it's from NBC.

I'm sad.

I mean, well, not.

I'm happy for the show, but man.

In other health news, researchers

with Virginia Tech are warning of a disease they say has pandemic potential.

What could that be?

What disease?

I like the alliteration, pandemic potential.

It's too long, but it would have been a show title.

Pandemic potential.

What do you think has pandemic potential?

What disease did we recently hear about in the news that we hadn't heard of for years, but now all of a sudden has pandemic potential?

Well,

first of all, I mean, the real one would be bird flu, but it's probably measles.

It's called Hantavirus.

You may have heard about it recently.

I should have guessed that one.

Easy, easy.

It's called Hantavirus.

You may have heard about it recently.

It's an infection that killed Gene Hackman's wife, and it also caused three deaths in California recently.

The virus is commonly spread throughout rodent droppings and urine or saliva and can cause serious illness in humans primarily.

How can that be?

How can that does it transfer from human to human?

How can it have pandemic potential if you get it from rat poop?

This is this is

a question that well that obviously as we as you played that clip whoever's doing the thing will ask that question because there's journalism involved.

Well it comes at the end.

Illness in humans primarily affecting the lungs.

Early symptoms include fatigue, fever, muscle aches, similar to symptoms of the flu, but late symptoms can include coughing and shortness of breath.

38% of people who develop these respiratory symptoms may die from the disease.

Now, oh, this, so this is very tricky what she did here.

So you can develop respiratory

symptoms just like the flu.

38% of people who develop those symptoms can die from it because may, oh, wait, wait, may die but she says but she's saying from she's making it sound like you're dying from the virus no

you're dying

you're dying from pneumonia yeah you're dying from pneumonia which is very dangerous but she's making it sound like rat poop is like 38 people die from rat poop shortness of breath 38 of people who develop these respiratory symptoms may die from the disease now researchers found three hot spots of hantavirus circulation in wildlife one of those is virginia 15 rodent species were identified as carriers, including six species that hadn't previously been hosts.

Now, this is significant because some of those species live in regions where traditional hosts do not, meaning there's more potential for the virus to spread quicker than thought.

Now, researchers are also able to get a better understanding of seasonal and climate trends like warmer winters leading to increased rodent populations and drier conditions like increasing the risk of spreading contaminated dust.

The researchers plan now to further explore how changes in the climate can influence HANTA virus transmission, and you can reduce your risk of contracting the virus by eliminating or minimizing contact with rodents.

Stop touching rats.

Kids, don't touch rat poop.

Minimize the code.

You think that the people that take the subway in New York City would be the most susceptible.

There's more

movies of

hordes of rats now, currently.

Well, how can not one person in New York has gotten a Honda?

Because it's bull crap.

It's bull crap.

The whole thing is bull crap.

And then remember,

remember measles, because we have all these anti-vaxxers in America,

these stupid, stupid religious freaks who don't want MMR, MMR.

How about the Canadians?

Would you say Canadians are compliant human beings who do what they're told with some grumbling?

They grumble.

They always grumble.

Yeah, they will do what what they're told, but they will complain.

So they take their shots.

Do they take their shots?

Do you think Canadians take their shots?

I would hope so.

Well, explain this to me.

The number of measles cases is skyrocketing in Ontario.

We've had 34 hospitalizations associated with this outbreak, and that's included two people who have required care in an intensive care unit.

470 cases have been confirmed to Public Health Ontario as of March 19th.

The largest numbers are predominantly in the southern part of the province, with Southwestern Public Health reporting 223 cases and Grand Erie Public Health reporting 111 cases.

People living in those areas, including the city of St.

Thomas, are worried about the growing spread.

People that don't want to get vaccinated, and I don't understand that because it saves a lot of lives.

My grandkids are older, so they're not really affected.

They have their shots.

I'd be concerned if they were babies.

A number of measles exposures have been reported here at St.

Thomas Elgin General Hospital since the beginning of February.

Public health officials say other people who visited around the same time need to be aware of these warnings because they can get infected even hours later after the infected person left.

There are cases right across the country, most in people who aren't vaccinated.

Because public health officials here don't know when the peak of this measles outbreak will happen, it's full steam ahead to reach out and encourage people to get vaccinated who have not already done so.

So it sounds to me like people are getting the measles at the hospital.

It's the measles.

Oh, people.

I could do another boomer moment, but we've done that enough about the measles.

I think you got the boomer thing out of the way.

Yeah.

Well, it's never out of my blood.

Now that I've accepted, I've just accepted the boomerism into my life.

Yeah, you've kind of relaxed into it.

I have to because, you know, it's like

I hear people come up to me and say, hey, man, chill out.

I'm a millennial.

No, I'm Gen X.

My kids call me boomer.

It's just what it is.

And then I beat them and take away their allowance.

Stupid boomer.

Okay, boomer.

I'm okay with it now.

I wear it as a badge of pride.

I wanted to go back to international stuff here for a second.

Okay, but I will give you a five-minute warning.

Oh, thank you.

Yeah, let's start with Iran.

Iran talks.

Yeah, that is kind of important to talk about.

Today, the U.S.

and Iran launched a new effort to negotiate a deal to scale back Iran's nuclear program.

In his first term, President Trump pulled the U.S.

out of an existing nuclear agreement with Iran and now believes he can negotiate a better one.

For more, we are joined by NPR National Security Correspondent Greg Myri.

Hey, Greg.

Hey, Scott.

Hey, Greg.

Hey, Scott.

So, what do we know about this initial round of talks today?

So, the two sides held talks for more than two hours in Oman's capital, Muscat, and the discussions were mediated by Oman.

Now, this was just a get-acquainted session.

The sides are laying out some basics, a framework for the talks, and we know the key issues here.

What will the limits be on Iran's nuclear program?

And to what extent will Iran get relief from the tough sanctions imposed by the U.S.?

But the mere fact that they met is certainly something unusual.

And the White House called the talks, quote, positive and constructive.

Iran struck a similar tone, and they agreed to meet again in a week.

Let's try to sort out one possible gap between the sides.

Iran called these indirect talks.

The Trump administration called them direct talks.

Which one is it?

Well, Scott, both, it seems.

The two sides were physically apart at this Oman government compound, and Oman's foreign minister shuttled between them, so indirect talks.

But at the end of the session, the leaders of the two delegations met and spoke briefly.

We're talking about Steve Witcoff, Trump's Middle East envoy, and Iran's foreign minister, Abbas Agrachi.

So it was also direct negotiations, or at least something both sides can live with.

He's characterizing that kind of in an odd way because, from what I understand,

they write a note, then the Oman guy takes it over to the Iranian guys, hands of the note.

They write a note back.

It's like high school.

And then he takes it back and then he gives it to Witkoff.

There are no direct communications.

It's all notes being passed back and forth.

Yeah, well.

Why?

I have probably some agreement.

Well, language.

They can't speak the same language.

Yeah.

All right.

I'm worried.

Let's rewind a decade, Greg.

The U.S.

and Iran reach this nuclear agreement in 2015 under President Obama.

Trump comes into office the first time around, says it was a bad deal, polls out in 2018.

How would this deal be different?

Yeah, that's the key question.

Since Trump was so dismissive of that earlier agreement, he'll want one that he can present as much better.

But the world has changed.

Iran has now enriched uranium to a much higher level, about 60 percent purity, not quite the level needed for a nuclear weapon, which was around 90 percent purity, but close to it, something they could get to pretty quickly.

The U.S.

will have to win concessions just to get back to the point where we were in 2018 when Trump unilaterally withdrew.

Meanwhile, Iran is vulnerable right now.

Its economy is very weak.

Its military suffered setbacks last year and missile exchanges with Israel.

So it could be more willing to make compromises.

Iran says it wants to keep the talks narrowly focused on the nuclear program.

Trump and his team have spoken of broader goals, for example, ending Iran's support of proxy groups in the region.

How do these negotiations with Iran fit with Trump's broader goals in the Middle East right now?

So Trump has been very clear that he wants to avoid endless conflict in the Middle East.

And a nuclear deal with Iran would certainly meet that goal, should certainly ease the tensions.

But at the same time, Trump has been ramping up U.S.

military involvement in the Middle East.

Today, in fact, marks four weeks since the U.S.

began a daily bombing campaign against the Houthis in Yemen, a group that Iran supports.

And the presence of an American aircraft carrier in the Red Sea off Yemen and a powerful B-2 bomber on an island in the Indian Ocean, not that far away, is also seen as a warning to nearby Iran.

Most analysts believe Trump is unlikely to resort to force at this stage.

They point to these nuclear discussions, but the president keeps warning that if negotiations don't succeed, military force remains an option.

Oh, man.

And meanwhile, in Europe, they have this.

The clip is the war clip at the bottom of the list.

Their war meeting in Warsaw.

EU economic ministers have wrapped up a two-day meeting in Poland focused on how to mobilize more money for defense at a time of economic uncertainty.

Terry Schultz reports that U.S.

tariffs on the EU are adding to the bloc's difficulties.

EU economic and finance ministers met in Warsaw to discuss new ways the bloc is offering to help the 27 member states invest more in their own security.

These include suspending the penalties governments incur for going into too much debt and offering loans backed by the EU itself as long as the money is spent on defense.

EU Economy Commissioner Valdes Dombrovska says such investment will pay off in other ways, too.

Beyond enhancing Europe's security, we expect additional defense spending to also boost competitiveness and economic growth, drive innovation, and create truth.

Dombrovska says the 25% tariffs on EU steel and aluminum exports that President Trump has left in place will hurt the U.S.

more than the EU.

Yeah, of course.

Of course.

Of course it'll hurt the U.S.

more.

So they're going to go into debt for war.

Yeah.

Heaven forbid you go into debt to save, you know, to feed people.

From what I understand, 10 billion of it they want to take out of the public coffers, like pensions.

Don't worry about it.

I didn't know that.

Yeah, yeah.

We're going to invest it in the war economy.

It's going to be great.

Now, typically, war economy is good.

You know, you get people back into factories, you know, get back into Volkswagen and the Audi factories.

But yeah,

you'll saddle your children up with debt.

We know how that works.

Yeah,

it adds up.

I'm still very concerned about Germany and France, particularly Macron.

I mean, I'm going to have, hopefully, I'll have a bit of an expose

about Macron being the true Antichrist.

I'm working on it.

He's a loser as an Antichrist, let me tell you.

I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.

Imagine all the people who could do this.

Oh, yeah, that'd

Yes, well, in general, the Antichrist is not supposed to be the winner.

I think Lady Gaga's got a better shot at it.

She's just one of Satan's helpers.

That's a different, different deal.

We have end-of-show mixes, meetups, including a meeter report, and several knights and dames.

It's been a very good day for the roundtable.

So, lots of tasty goods for everybody who is hanging out with us and of course john's tip of the day but first we are going to thank the rest of our producers who supported us with some treasure 50 and above

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It takes five seconds at least for them to hear the message, let alone type.

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Kids love that.

And of course, mutton and meat at the table.

While you're all munching around, get your cell phone out of your hollow book and go to noagendarings.com.

That's where you will see you have these beautiful rings.

They're for knights and for dames.

They are signet rings.

So when you give us your address and ring size, which is available to measure on the website, send it to us and we'll send you the ring along with a stick of wax, actually, two sticks of wax, which you can use to seal your important correspondence with the signet ring and a certificate of authenticity.

And once again, welcome to the roundtable of the No Agenda Knights and Dames, and congratulations.

Yeah, but wait, the fun doesn't stop there.

We've got the No Agenda meetups.

These are producer-organized gatherings.

You can find that all at noagendametups.com.

We love it when you send in a report.

Here's one from Fort Wayne.

Adam and John, this is Shannon Fort Wayne.

We had a decent gathering today.

We had a lot of like-minded folks.

Happy birthday, JCD.

Sir, PBR Street Gang.

In the morning, John and Adam, for some reason, I've developed a list, and I don't know what's from.

In the morning, Dame Trinity having a great time in Fort Wayne.

Looking forward to tomorrow in Indy.

These end of show tips are worth their weight in gold.

My first wife I've met at a squared end shindig.

The next one I met at a sock hop.

Bingo, boom, shagalaga.

Were you telling people is it tip of the day to meet their wives at a sock up?

I don't think so.

We got a couple of meetups taking place today.

Well underway in Toronto is the Granite Brewery, the Must Be High 16 meetup.

The Indy No Agenda Rainstick Stirred Not Shaken meetup is underway at the Blind Owl Brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana.

That's always a big one.

They will send in a cool meetup report.

Remember to include your servers in these meetup reports.

You love hearing them and it helps spread good cheer.

We have the 2minieggs.com Keene New Hampshire meetup, which is also underway.

Margarita's Mexican Restaurant, Keene, New Hampshire.

You can still get there on time.

We have the Tax Day Hangover Meetup.

That'll be on Thursday.

That's after Tax Day, Tuesdays after Tax Day.

6:30 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado.

Charlotte's Thursday, 3rd Thursday monthly meetup, 7 o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.

And the final one on Thursday, the the 5th Amygdala checkup, 7.33 borrowed Amsterdam time, locale Schesteinfeiftuch in Leiden, the Netherlands.

Go to a meetup at least once.

I guarantee you, if you go once, it won't be your last time.

They're a lot of fun.

You will have a lot of things in common.

And it is the connection that you get there that gives you protection.

They are your first responders in an emergency.

So many telegram groups and text message groups and everybody likes to hang out.

And you'll meet some people, maybe even your future knight or dame.

Noagendameetups.com.

That's the calendar we can go and find one.

And if you can't find one there near you, you can start one yourself.

It's easy and always a party.

Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

You to be where you won't be triggered or hell lame.

You to be where everybody feels the same.

It's like a party.

I love my truck and I love what I do.

Yeah, I discovered the

mystery uh-oh ISO, which we couldn't find.

I didn't know what they were talking about in the last show.

Yeah, that's actually your noisemaker.

It has uh-oh.

Oh, the oh oh.

Yeah, you have it.

Where is your uh-oh?

Play it.

Uh-oh.

Yeah, that one.

That's exactly it.

People think that's like I'm starting some jingle or something.

No, that's you.

That's all you.

It's all you.

All right, I see that you once again have a slew of ISOs, probably all

AI-made.

Why don't we start with yours?

Because I'm so tired of going first.

What do you have?

Well, I'm always going first.

You go first today.

Okay, let's start at the top with Dag.

Dag Nabitt, another winner of a show.

Yeah, that's not bad.

Although, I'm tired of Carl as Carl.

Carl.

What else?

What else you got?

Flash.

Wow, that made me want to flash the hosts.

You're running out of ideas, John.

Okay.

I have some lewd ones I never put on.

Yeah.

And what's your last one?

What?

What?

It's already over?

Well,

well, let me see.

I have some real ones, you know, like OG, like, actually did some work.

Be awesome.

Yeah, how about that?

Be awesome.

Huh?

No good?

Oh, God.

No good.

You're a boomer.

Yeah, this I think I actually have a winner here.

We live in an era where podcasters have a lot of power.

Come on, man.

That's a good one.

That's a good one.

I care for it.

We live in an era where podcasters have a lot of power.

I could just start there.

I could just say here.

It's like podcasters have a lot of power.

Could start there.

No?

Guess not.

Okay, if you want to do that, I'll let you have it.

Podcasters have a lot of power.

We do.

Tons of power.

And And now, everybody, the power will be shown to you and John's tip of the day.

We all love it.

Create advice for you and me.

Just the tip with JCD.

And sometimes at all.

Creative identity.

First of all, we have to do a clarification on the last.

This is happening more and more.

Uh-oh.

Your tip is no good.

Why?

Your tips are always good.

What's wrong with your tips?

Well,

people make a good point because of the it wouldn't have probably come up if I hadn't have mentioned the tethering issue.

The little bitty one that has a little spring-loaded breaker on it, it's a very which is one of the uh we're talking about the window breaker.

Oh, yes, the orange thing that cuts the seatbelt and breaks the window.

Yes, yeah, there is a uh there's a version

that is not a hammer, but a spring, excuse me, a spring-loaded uh little thing.

I have one guy, two guys have said they prefer this because it's on the keychain.

So when your car flips over, whatever happens, you can always get to the key fob.

Because it's in the ignition.

Although with newer cars,

they're not in the ignition, so it doesn't work with new cars.

But it's beside the point.

One guy says that he has taken this thing and taken it to junkyards and tested it

on glass.

Now I'm tempted to call a few junkyards up and ask if I can do this and tried it and it does break the glass.

So well, surprise.

Interesting.

Surprise, surprise.

You know,

there's a device that I've seen thieves use on YouTube, and it's like a handheld device, like a pen, and you hold it up against the window,

and it just shoots a little tip out, and it breaks it.

That would be something you could actually just slip in your pocket.

Have you seen those?

No, I haven't, but this is a very similar device.

Only it's

not a pin.

I don't know.

Whatever the case, people should definitely have some device or other.

Now, we have another one that's going to create the same

controversy.

Controversy.

And I've been carrying one of these around for, I don't know, five or six years.

I noticed that when...

A switchblade.

You don't carry around a switchblade?

I'm going to cut you.

I'm going to cut you.

And I noticed that when I drove the big uh fire engine you brought up earlier at the Brunetti ranch it was you know he had to have one bring one of these out to start the thing this is the solid state battery charger

and battery replacement this is a solid state battery a jump starter you can buy these you look up

I would say jump solid state jump starter you look it up on Amazon unfortunately nowadays there are so many of these things including the one I have that they don't even even have on the list anymore.

But these things are small.

You want to get something that's got 2,500 to 4,000 amps if you can get it.

4,000 amps is good.

They're very simple.

You hook it to the battery, and usually they have a boost mode.

If it won't start, usually you can start it right away.

You hook it up, and then you start the car.

If you have a dead battery, it's handy when your battery goes dead.

And you can start the car.

And then if it won't start the car, you can push the boost button and you get like another, you know, 20

or 22,000 amps.

You get a boost.

A lot of amps.

Boosts.

And these things are also interesting because they'll probably start the car five to seven times before they need recharging.

And they also have outputs for like if you want to plug your phone into it.

It'll have enough juice to charge your phone for the next five years.

So So they're very handy, but there's a bunch of them now.

There's like, I'd say, and they're all pretty much made by the two or three companies in China.

This is another Chinese product.

You probably should get it while you can.

Yeah.

It might cost $40.

Woo!

There's some that are pretty cheap.

Does it have semiconductors?

Does it have any semiconductors in there?

Because that could be exempt.

So it has to have, or otherwise you can't get that kind of power out.

It has to exempt.

It should be exempt now that you mention it, based on what Lutnik said.

But whatever the case is, check these out.

There's a lot of them.

You're going to have to, you know, you want a couple of things to look for.

You want to have a lot of amps for the price because there's low amps that cost too much and there's high amps that are cheap.

And then you want to make sure that has a booster mode so it just gives it the full juice.

It pretty much drains the thing.

And

it should have some outputs, some USB outputs for charging miscellaneous products.

Fabulous thing.

Everyone should have one of these batteries.

Jay's got one.

I've got one.

Everybody, you know, people should have these.

Everybody needs one.

You need one.

It's important.

Boost, boost, boost.

Get your booster.

Boost mode, everybody.

That is tipofeday.net to review all the tips of the day.

Great advice for you and me.

Just a tip with JCD.

And sometimes add-on.

Created by Dana Birdetti.

All right.

More Chinese junk in the tip of the day.

It's amazing.

How about an American product next time?

Good old-fashioned American product.

Yeah.

Something made in America.

You know.

Because,

you know, China no good.

The asshole.

Can't trust them.

Hey, everybody, that is it.

It's the end of our broadcast day.

You've gotten your money's worth for sure.

We've taken it all the way up to three and a half hours, but we're happy to do it.

We like deconstructing the media.

We like showing you the absurdity of the absurd, where you can always experience the unexpected on the No Agenda Show.

End of show mixes, Jesse Coyne Nelson and brand new from David Kecta, who doesn't know him.

And right after we're done, oh, it is episode 129 of Curry and the Keeper.

Yes, I make fun of Tina and the stuff she wears at night when she goes to bed.

You don't want to miss that one.

Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country.

In Pitcher Arse, Fredericksburg, Texas.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C.

Dvorak.

We return on Thursday.

Join us here for more No Agenda.

Remember, please remember us at Noagendadonations.com.

Until that time, adios movos, a hooey-hooey,

and such.

Even just today,

a missile was sent in, probably by Russia,

probably by Russia,

probably by Russia, to Poland,

to Poland,

To Poland.

50 miles into Poland.

And people are going absolutely wild increasing.

Wild increasing.

Wild increase.

We've gotta get out of this gang.

No!

BASS TINKS!

WILL increasing.

BASS TINKS!

Election denier from that wing of the party.

What how are you reading these tea leaves?

Probably by Russia.

Probably by Russia.

We've cocked it out in the stage.

Definitely not a Republican wave, that's for darn sure.

Darn sure.

Darn sure.

Darn sure.

Even just today, a missile was sent in probably by Russia to Poland, 50 miles into Poland, and people are going absolutely wild and crazy.

I think people would rather buy an iPhone.

I just want to get out of the past talks.

First thing you ought to do is get all these folks who've got these workouts here and we've negotiated over the years to say, fellas, we'll take some day we date here.

And they'll get locked right at that point.

Because, for example, we've got international competitors who simply could not unload their cars off the ships.

If they had to comply, you see if it was a two-way street, just couldn't do it.

We have got to stop sending jobs overseas.

To those of you in the audience who are business people,

pretty simple.

You're paying $12, $13, $14 an hour for factory worker.

And you can move your factory south to the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor, hire a young 25, let's assume you've been in business for a long time, you've got a mature workforce.

Pay a dollar an hour for your labor.

Have no health care.

That's the most expensive single element making the car,

have no environmental controls, no pollution controls, and no retirement,

and you don't care about anything but making money.

There will be a job sucking sound going south.

You gotta look to China.

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