1753 - "Local Jamoke"

Most women kill their husbands by poisoning them.

Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Sunday, April 6th, 2025.

This is your award-winning Game One Nation Media Assassination episode 1753.

This is no agenda.

Everything's crashing!

And we're still broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I understand that the Russians are making exploding sex toys.

I'm John C.

Dvorex.

It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill in the morning.

Wait a minute.

I thought that was the Israelis who made an exploding sex toys.

Well, the Russians apparently are making exploding dildos.

Oh, that could be.

That's a day wrecker.

It could be rather annoying.

Where did you get this tidbit from?

Some story floating around.

Oh, okay.

It was on a real news site.

It's on a real news site.

Okay, that makes nothing but sense.

On the internet,

it must be true.

Yeah.

Hey, man, happy birthday.

One day after the fact, but happy birthday.

Why, thank you.

And did everyone come by and celebrate?

A lot of people did.

Really?

More than just the family?

No, I'm talking about the meetup.

Oh, yeah.

How was that?

That must have been fantastic.

How many people were there?

I don't know.

You know, they were scattered all over the place.

I'll tell you this, that

you know, the pizza people, the

Violetta pizza.

Yes, yeah, that's where it was.

Yeah.

And Violet, of course, is the trap baby that was notorious.

Nice.

They make a fabulous pizza.

With the pineapple?

You know, they didn't bring a pineapple one out, which disappointed me.

But the, the,

actually, I don't even know if they have pineapple ones, but it doesn't matter.

Their pizzas are,

it's just everything you'd want in a pizza.

The crust is perfect.

The sauce is terrific.

They use the real cheeses.

And there's a big line.

This is supposedly their opening, is their hard opening.

And there's like a

considering that no one's heard of this,

the new one, this is the new place.

He bought some property in

part of Oakland that was industrial.

And there was a line of people waiting to buy pizzas

as I left the meetup.

It was like, you know, it must have been 20 people there waiting patiently in line.

It's astonishing.

That kind of reminds me of the grilled cheese place back in the day.

The place across the street from Mevio.

Yeah, remember that?

Yeah, the grilled cheese place.

All they made was grilled cheese, and they were packed.

Yeah.

And I think we predicted the mac and cheese, the grilled cheese, the avocado toys.

We predicted a lot of things, even without going saying, I predict something.

In fact, someone's, one of our producers sent me this.

This is from

2021.

I could not believe when I heard this.

The globalists jumped on the opportunity to be anti-racist and do photo ops being nice to poor black people, but the general public is still kind of racist here.

Co-figure.

There are reports and video evidence of Haitians catching and eating family cats and dogs, but it isn't too common.

Hey, we need this meme over here.

Dude, if we, if, if people knew that Haitians were eating dogs,

all of Wokustan would be defending the border.

Yep.

We need to get this.

This needs to come out.

Stop eating our dogs, you Haitians.

They're eating the dogs.

Can you believe we had that actual conversation?

Well, as long as

maybe that's where Trump got it.

Huh?

Not possible.

Possible.

You never know.

So amidst, and of course, we're going to talk about terror.

I have stuff from the Sunday shows.

Terrifs.

I have stuff from the Sunday shows.

I have tons of terrorist stuff, too.

But from this morning, from the Sunday show?

Brand new.

No, not from the Sunday shows.

Hot off the press.

You always get it.

Hot off the press.

Generally, we have the advantage on that one.

So before we do that, though, I thought it was rather interesting and didn't, at least I didn't see it get the coverage about the Russian envoy being in DC.

Did you get any of that?

No.

So Kirill Dmitrie, Dmitriev.

It's easy for you to say.

It's not easy for me to say, was in DC,

and I could not find anything except snippets of an interview he did on

Fox with Brett Baer, which I thought was, you know, I had like W-I-O-N.

I had Africa News did something on it.

No one, no, everyone was like, oh,

it wasn't on CBS.

No.

Well, I pulled a couple clips.

I thought it was white, white.

It was white winter string.

It was very interesting.

And right off the bat, this Koreal dude says, you know, Trump's done some pretty good stuff, like stopping World War III.

President Trump administration has met, this has made tremendous progress.

So this whole dialogue with Russia in Biden's what?

Obviously, that's why it wasn't played.

Right off the top.

Progress.

No, we can't have that.

That's no good.

Oh, it's not anti-Trump enough.

Trump administration

has made tremendous progress.

There was no dialogue with Russia in the Biden administration for the last three years.

There was no trying to understand Russian position.

There was no real solutions that could have been successful.

And what the President Trump team has done, they understood what the solution space may be, and they achieved the first de-escalation ever in the conflict, which is stopping hits on energy infrastructure between Russia and Ukraine.

So we are having good discussions.

Our diplomatic people are also discussing possible outcomes, but there is no question that President Trump team not only stopped World War III from happening, but also had already achieved sizable progress on Ukraine resolution.

What?

Yeah, you're right.

No wonder.

No, we can't have that.

We can't be talking about good stuff like that.

And this

kind of leading into the tariffs and sanctions, I thought this was fascinating.

Russia is not asking for lifting of sanctions because if you look at our GDP growth, it's actually 4% last year versus just 1% in Europe.

If you look at our debt to GDP, it's 18% versus 100% in Europe.

So I think what we see is that actually U.S.

companies lost around $300 billion of foregone profit from withdrawing from Russia.

So I think sanctions may be lifted when U.S.

companies want to go back, want to take advantage of business opportunities in Russia.

But right now, Russia is not making any preconditions, not asking for specific sanction relief.

This is fantastic.

The Russians are like, hey, man, you guys can come in.

You can make $300 billion more.

Which I think is...

You can buy back your McDonald's.

It's maybe, well, as if they all went away.

We know that a lot of them were faking it.

Yeah, they're fake.

And the last clip here is about

another stunner about NATO and

the final resolutions for Ukraine.

But I think Ukraine joining NATO, as our president said, is not at all possible.

And that I think has been widely accepted, including by the Trump administration.

You know, some security guarantees in some form may be acceptable.

Then we can do so many great things together in Arctic.

We can do deals in rare earth and other minerals.

We can do lots of cooperation in LNG and other areas.

So I think one of the big issues between us, we never had really lots of economic cooperation.

We believe that economic cooperation will allow us to also solve any political issues.

Man, they're going to have to line up behind Canada.

Everybody wants to give us rare earth.

It's amazing.

It's amazing.

It was like, well, tariffs are no good.

We're going to get you.

But hey, would you like some rare earth?

Yeah, and you know, no, you can't be in NATO over there in Ukraine, but

some security forces are okay.

This is amazing.

More amazing, of course, that the M5M has, except for Fox, I'll give them a pass on that, have just not covered it.

And I don't even know, this guy may just be some Jamoque who lives in Brooklyn and speaks Russian for all I know.

I've never heard of it.

I've never heard of it.

Bear's pretty good at getting, they have good bookers on that show.

I don't know this guy.

As a contrast, I want to play these clips.

All righty.

This is a contrast to what you just played because that's like, you know, good news, kind of.

You can't have good news.

This is not good news.

We can't have good news.

So let's go to CBS

and look at their discussion of the NSA head being fired.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

Okay.

You have two here.

Yeah, the

one that says two in it is the second one.

Oh, that's a two.

Okay, Twee, got it.

Well, the general in charge of the National Security Agency and U.S.

Cyber Command is the latest to be fired in a purge of national security officials.

Margaret Brennan has the details.

President Trump's firing of the top two leaders of the powerful national security agency, Cyber Command General Timothy Hawke and Deputy Wendy Noble, and the dismissal of at least six White House National Security Council aides, followed an extraordinary Oval Office meeting Wednesday between President Trump and far-right activist Laura Loomer.

CBS News has met Loomer, who has entertained 9-11 conspiracy theories, has a history of anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant social media posts, privately and publicly accused the officials of subverting Trump's agenda and being disloyal.

President Trump said he did discuss personnel with Loomer.

Chris Krebs, a CBS News consultant, was a top cybersecurity official during the first Trump administration.

So Laura Loomer, this far-right activist, said Hawk was fired because he was, quote, disloyal to President Trump.

What do you make of that?

He's exactly the kind of leader that I think we need in that role.

It is surprising, and I think it is a bit of a setback for us as we see China, as we see Russia and Iran getting more and more aggressive in cyberspace to move out one of our most accomplished, distinguished cyber warriors.

Now, I saw this story come across the transom.

I'm glad you got these clips because my initial, I'll be honest, my initial response is, oh, Lord Luma, what is she doing?

Someone's been lumered.

I mean,

what was going on there?

A couple of things.

The note.

Why don't they get Laura Loomer and ask her a couple of questions?

They might want to, you know, ask her what's she talking about, about this guy being disloyal.

Did they?

They don't interview her.

They don't talk to her.

They talk to this guy, Kreb,

who they announce as, this is CBS's duplicitousness, by the way.

This is a great example of very poor journalism.

And I would blame everybody,

Dickinson and

Brennan and the rest of them, for doing this.

This Krebs guy, he was

Trump's guy.

He was Trump's security guy, you know, cybersecurity guy.

He was fired by Trump, which you'd think they would mention because it does give you a little insight into what he's bitching about because he was one of the guys fired by Trump, so you can't take him too seriously.

Previously, before it was NSA or now?

No, I'm talking about the guy doing the ⁇ that she's talking to.

Oh,

oh,

okay.

The guy who she's using as evidence of this being a big blunder, this Krebs guy.

He was fired by Trump.

He did work for Trump.

And then right after the election in 2019, right after the election before, you know, where Trump thought it was

a fake, bad election for the 2020 election,

This guy

decided between the time of the election and

the inauguration of Biden, he, as the cybersecurity guy, started a blog which just documented every reason in the world why this couldn't have been a rigged election.

He should have done a sub stack.

Blogs get no traction.

Well, whatever, he did something.

It was government.

It was on government dime.

And so Trump fired him.

Now, was he at CISA?

No, he was at Homeland Security.

Yes, no, CISA.

CISA?

So, no, so Trump fired him.

So now he's the expert.

So he's a guy with no grudge, and he's on with Margaret Bray.

Are you telling me that CBS is not doing good journalism?

And so they're actually getting worse and worse.

Meanwhile, we talk about this Hog guy, Hawk, as she calls him, H-A-U-G-H was the head of NSA.

This guy is interesting in a couple of ways.

He's like, he has three master's degrees in cybersecurity stuff, but it's like from the naval postgraduate school, from the army school, this is a lot of stuff.

Stop, stop, stop.

New promotion.

No agenda, masters of security stuff.

I like it.

I like it a lot.

Well, so

the PhD is the only thing that works.

So this guy has three master's degrees, and he has, so you look at him, he looks like kind of a government guy.

But if you look at him

or you look at his background, he has now what when you think of somebody with a bronze star,

what does that imply?

You did

you did something

courageous.

You probably did something in combat.

Yeah, that yes, courageous in combat.

Yes.

This guy, it appears, has never been in combat.

He has a bronze star.

And if you try to research the bronze star, which I did, you can't find out why he got this bronze star.

And he apparently got the bronze star while he was in Florida.

He rebooted a server.

He got the bronze.

All I can figure out is he got the bronze star somehow in Florida.

And

I guess he was doing something remotely.

I don't know.

The guy is suspicious.

And

so they bring bring this,

they never interview Loomer about any of this.

They do interview Trump.

I had to cut that out because it was on the airplane.

You couldn't hear it.

But so they bring this Krebs guy on to straighten this out.

And this is just garbage.

So let's listen to the second half.

This went right to the Oval Office, the conversation about these National Security Council officials.

There's a short circuit happening here in the traditional process.

There's a different kind of influence that is informing personnel processes and decisions.

And I think that's in part what's just so unusual about the moment.

We have really, really capable people in leadership positions that I think are serving the Constitution well.

But unfortunately, their time's up and their jobs.

And Margaret Brennan joins us now from Washington.

Margaret, if you could take us through the scope of what the NSA does and why this is such a big deal today.

Well, Maurice, the NSA is arguably the most powerful intelligence collection agency this country has because because they vacuum up information through signals intelligence intercepts, through cyber collection.

Vacuum up information.

That's actually a very accurate description of what they do.

Yeah, it's very accurate.

Vacuum it up.

And the thing is, it's interesting is that if you listen to her exposition here,

she kind of has to clarify things that with a little afterthought you may or may not catch.

This country has because they vacuum up information through signals intelligence intercepts, through cyber collection, through wiretaps.

And they do that overseas.

They then work hand in glove with the military's cyber command.

Now, General Hawke is a four-star general.

He was unanimously confirmed by Congress to that job, and he swore an oath of allegiance to the U.S.

Constitution, no matter who is president.

His accuser, Laura Loomer, says his fault is working for the last president.

Margaret, and you're hearing there might be more changes in store perhaps for this important agency?

Yes, John, we are.

Actually, CBS has learned that President Trump is considering splitting off the NSA from the military.

Other presidents have also considered this and then ruled it out.

Doing so, splitting it off, would allow for President Trump to put a political ally at the helm.

General Hawk opposed it.

What did she say at the end?

Would prevent...

Political ally at the helm?

I didn't quite understand what she was saying.

She said that splitting it off.

Now, this is the logic of this.

Now, this is the part that I thought was interesting.

And by the way, the other, the part I was mentioning earlier is when she said, and they wiretaps you.

Yeah, no.

And they do this overseas.

She added that in real quick.

They do it overseas.

They don't do wiretaps here like Snowden implies.

No, not at Trump Tower at all.

No, no, no.

It's not happening.

So

she says that by splitting the NSA off from the military, it allows Trump to

put in a loyalist.

Well, Trump's going to put in somebody anyway.

Whether they're connected to the military or not, why wouldn't he put in a loyalist?

In other words, I don't get the.

What is the

do they have to split NSA off from the military so he can put in a loyalist?

Why can't they just put in a loyalist without splitting it off?

It doesn't make any sense at all.

She makes it sound like some conspiracy is going on.

This is just bad reporting.

Well, there probably is

a possible conspiracy opportunity if you have NSA, you know, part of the military.

Like, separate those two.

She just talked about all that with the DOD, hand in glove with the DOD.

Yeah, you want to keep that on the, you want to keep that close to the vest.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Interesting.

So this was an example of the opposite of like, let's talk about the envoy from Russia

trying to create peace.

Heaven forbid.

Let's just talk about Trump.

Well, I have, I'll do two.

These are rather short series of the Sunday morning shows.

Thank you, Steve Jones.

Howard Luttnick, our

commerce secretary, was on Face the Nation.

And

he made a little bit

is Luttnick the oh, yeah, he's commerce.

He's commerce, yeah.

He made a little boo-boo, but first let's get into the intro.

We see about 60% of Americans have money in the stock market, which means that retirees could be just as concerned as hedge fund managers.

Hold on a second.

Let's start with that premise.

60% of Americans have money in the stock market mostly via 401ks.

Yes.

It's not like they're investing.

And by the way, I wonder if it's 60% that have 401ks.

Retirement funds, yeah.

Yeah, well, that would, that's what they're trying to include.

Yeah.

Because active investors is no ways that high.

Okay.

Did you expect this level of shock in the financial markets?

Shock!

Well, you've got to realize this is a national security issue.

I mean, we don't make medicine in this country anymore.

We don't make ships.

We don't have enough steel and aluminum to fight a battle, right?

All our semiconductors are made overseas.

So every button we press when we try to start our car or even use our microwave, these are all semiconductors.

They're all made elsewhere.

Buttons now, semiconductors, but okay, I digress.

I like

to start to protect ourselves.

And we've got to stop having all the countries of the world ripping us off.

We have a $1.2 trillion trade deficit, and the rest of the world has a surplus with us.

They're earning our money.

They're taking our money.

And Donald Trump has seen this, and he's going to stop it.

So it is going to be a big change.

Of course, it's going to be a big change, but the rest of the world has been ripping us off for all these many years.

Donald Trump has seen it.

He's spoken about it.

I understand.

And he's just not going to take it anymore, and that's his model.

So actually, it's Hassart.

He's did the whoops.

You'll get to that later.

But this guy likes saying ripped off a lot.

And where does he come from, Ludnick?

He comes from, is he a hedge fund guy or what is he?

I think he's a hedge fund guy.

We can look him up.

But who is this that's interviewing him?

I have no idea.

Sounds like Brennan.

Oh, it could be.

It's Face the Nation.

So probably.

Maybe that would be her.

Okay.

More getting ripped off.

She's bad, by the way.

She's bad news, this woman.

Oh, but that's her job.

She's bad news lady.

And that was abundantly clear during the presidential campaign how much the president truly believes in tariffs and putting him at the center of his economic policy.

But you saw absolute panic in the global market.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Cantor Fitzgerald, of course.

How could I forget?

He's the guy that didn't go to work on 9-11.

Sorry to put it that way.

Kids, did you expect that or were you surprised?

No, I think the point is you need to reset the power of the United States of America and reset it against all our allies and our enemies alike.

The idea that all the countries of the world can run trade surpluses with America and buy our things with us.

Remember, $1.2 trillion.

In 1980, we were a net investor, meaning we owned more of the rest of the world than they owned of us.

It's a different world.

And now

they own $18 trillion of us net.

So that means the rest of the world, every year when we run a $1.2 trillion deficit, the rest of the world buys $1.2 trillion of America.

And it goes up and up and up.

And eventually, we're not going to own America.

And we are going to be owned by the rest of the world.

Oh, no.

Imagine if we had a war and we can't build a ship.

We can't fly a plane.

We can't build our own planes.

We don't have our own semiconductors.

This is what the president is here to fix for America.

It's in his hands, and he wants to fix America.

This is his chance to fix America, and we need him to fix it for our children and our grandchildren.

Understood, but

my 401k here at CBS is going down.

I hate looking at these numbers all day long.

And then

this was really quite low.

You know,

we'll just stop for a second.

What Luttnick said there is kind of important.

It's very important.

And if the media was on board,

this would be an issue at all.

But they're not.

They're fighting it.

They really want America to become a weakened state that could be just easily taken over by anyone with the military because we're going to have nothing except soldiers

with gear that is purchased overseas.

And we still have

the defense industry we have, which really only makes missiles and fighter jets.

We don't make tanks.

But not with our own steel.

So, I mean,

there's a lot of problems here in terms of strategic positioning.

And the media is just

not helping.

Oh, no, of course not.

I mean, they want ratings.

They don't really care if they're helping or not.

They're not interested.

They're interested in their own bread and butter.

It makes total sense, just like us.

That's why we're kowtowing.

We don't have ratings.

We have ratings.

We don't need ratings.

We don't use ratings.

It's beautiful.

We're not part of that system.

No, we're not part of downloads either, podcast industrial complex.

Anyway, so it was understandable that Saturday Night Live made a joke about

the McDonald Island,

you know, penguins.

That's understandable, but for CBS to not even think for two seconds about

what that's really about was just baffling.

When we saw the president stand in the rose garden holding up that chart that you helped make

that that wasn't actually tariffs that was actually confusing to investors because it was some kind of other formula and the countries themselves did you see the formula

yeah i saw i think i did it was like it looked like the formula for bitcoin mining oh that formula that was up there yeah it was very interesting i was like okay and the countries themselves seemed kind of random like why are the herd and McDonald Islands, which don't export to the United States and are quite literally inhabited by penguins, why do they face a 10% tariffs?

Did you use AI to generate this?

I mean, can you believe this question?

It's like, do a

use AI and ask the question.

You would come up with an answer.

You wouldn't ask this ridiculous question.

I just couldn't believe that came from CBS first generation.

No, no, the idea.

Look, the idea is

left off.

Because the idea, what happens is, if you leave anything off the list, the countries that try to basically arbitrage America go through those countries to us.

And now what he's trying to say is, I'm going to fix the trade deficit of the United States of America.

It's a national security issue.

We need to make medicine.

We need to make semiconductors.

We need to make ships.

She's not listening.

We need to have steel and aluminum.

Come on.

We need the greatness of America to actually be built in America.

And he's tired of getting ripped off by the rest of the world.

Okay, but just to be clear, April 9th, the so-called retaliatory tariffs.

So-called, so-called

to actually be built in America, and he's tired of getting ripped off by the rest of the world.

Okay, but just to be clear, April 9th, the so-called retaliatory tariffs, the reciprocal tariffs, I should say,

are those coming or are they open open to negotiation?

The tariffs are coming.

He announced it, and he wasn't kidding.

The tariffs are coming.

Of course, they are.

Okay.

She is not listening.

I wonder if her producer is just yelling in your ear.

You know, it's like.

Ask me about the tears.

Are they coming April 9th?

I've noticed this before, that she doesn't listen very well.

She did it with

Marco Rubio.

She didn't listen to him.

She

Vance, J.D.

Vance, who's nailed her to because she wasn't listening.

She doesn't listen.

And

it's possible that she's one of those people.

There are people that are major anchors, not a lot of them, but there's a few, which is probably why she's never on doing a daily show.

That

when they're talking in there, this is

kind of inside baseball, but when you have this IFB in your ear

and someone's talking to you, this was expressed, I think, in the movie Network News.

Yes, entirely.

Where, what's his name?

Where they could talk to him and he could,

not too many people can do this, but they can talk to you in your ear and you can repeat right as they're saying it in real time as if you're saying it.

It's a skill.

And some people can't.

The skill is like lost on them when

the IFB is going off and the producer is saying what

you just said.

They're yucking at her.

She can't also listen to the guests.

She can only hear the guy.

She's one-track mind.

So she can hear the guy in the IFB and she can't pay attention at the same time.

Some people can, some people can't.

She can't.

Well, the problem with her is that, and this is what you shouldn't be doing, she keeps saying, yeah, yeah, okay, but she keeps interrupting because she hears the question in her ear.

And Tom Brokaw could do that.

He was really good at that.

I saw that.

I think we talked about it.

The launch of MSNBC, and Tom Brokaw interviewed President Clinton.

Was it President Clinton?

Yeah, it must have been President Clinton.

And I sat in the control room because we had done the chat or something for MSNBC.

And it was astounding how good he was.

It was just, you know, and he's talking, he's listening.

They're yelling in his ear and they're

all at once.

I mean, that guy was really good.

Yeah, that's what you're supposed to do.

That is those guys.

It's non-trivial.

Or he, I don't believe can even come close to doing any of that.

Or you could just go on Joe Rogan and take three hours and take your time and have a nice conversation and get some real information out of it.

This is the problem with the linear broadcast system.

It's just not conducive anymore to what people want.

Like, tell me more instead of penguins.

So we go over to Kevin Hassert.

He's the director of the National Economic Council.

He showed up this morning on ABC This Week.

And

he had a number of interesting things to say.

So this is now that Stephanopoulos is going to focus on prices and taxes and prices and taxes and taxes and prices.

And Hassard is going to give him a piece of his mind.

Where do you base your conclusion that you're not going to see an increase in prices?

Just about every economist who's looked at this said you are going to see an increase in prices, including Goldman Sachs, including J.P.

Morgan, including the chairman of the Federal Reserve.

Well, there might be some increase in prices, but the fact is that that if there were going to be a heavy burden on the U.S.

consumer, then this trade deficit that for 30 years we've seen really since China entered the WTO would be something that would have gone down.

It would have gone down over time.

It would have responded to the prices.

The bottom line is that China entered the WTO in 2000.

In the 15 years that followed, real incomes declined about $1,200 cumulatively over that time.

And so if cheap goods were the answer, if cheap goods were going to make Americans' real wages, real welfare better off, then real incomes would have gone up over that time.

Instead, they went down because wages went down more than prices went down.

So we got the cheap goods at the grocery store, but then we had fewer jobs.

And that's why President Obama and Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and President Trump have come out saying we've got to come up with a better policy, a policy that treats our workers fairly compared to everybody else.

And now President Trump, true to his word, just like he promised during the campaign, just like he put into his campaign platform, he's delivering on his word.

Okay.

Hassard, by the way, was professor of economics at Columbia.

I guess he also wrote a book.

I don't know if he was, I'd have to know.

It was in 1999.

Dow 36,000, the new strategy for profiting from the coming rise in the stock market.

I don't think his track record is so good as it was published just before the dot-com bubble burst.

Oh, it did go over 36,000.

It did.

He was right about that.

so

it's just timing.

I'm, I'm, uh, I'm always, oh, I guess I get to say it.

I'm always surprised.

No, I'm amazed that people will be sending me, hey, I know what the tariffs are about.

Uh, nine trillion dollars has to be refied this year.

There's three trillion coming up in uh in April and May.

This is probably what it's about.

I'm like, yeah, did you listen to us on March 13th?

Uh,

so we've already been all over this, and

it appears certainly from the president's

truths, on Truth Social, that he was hoping that the Federal Reserve would lower the interest rates, and this came up.

Yeah, he bitched about that.

Yeah, and was this a strategy?

He asks George.

Also on Truth Social, the President retweeted a post that said the market drop was part of a deliberate strategy to force the Fed to lower interest rates.

Is that the President's strategy?

He just said it on Truth Social.

Why are you asking if that's his strategy?

If not, why did he post it?

Yeah, yeah, that

he just posted it as a joke.

Yeah, it was just gaffing.

The bottom line is the president has been talking about tariffs for 40 years, and this has been absolutely the policy that he's focused on in the campaign and throughout his political career.

And the cyclical cycle of the Fed, it comes and goes.

That's a different matter.

But this is President Trump's desired policy.

He's been arguing for it ever since I think he was on the view 30, 40 years ago.

And it's exactly the baseline tariffs is exactly what he put into the convention.

So this is not a surprise for anyone.

Is it his strategy to force the Fed to lower interest rates and that the market crashes?

We understand the Fed is an independent agency.

We respect the independence of the Fed.

Yeah, but that's not good enough for me.

Is it a strategy?

So that is his strategy.

Tank the market so the Fed lower interest rates.

Oh, no, no.

Well, you just said the president's allowed to have an opinion.

Is that his opinion or is it not?

Is that strategy?

Yeah, no.

This guy's about to fall apart, this Hassett guy.

Take the market.

He's trying to deliver for American workers.

I mean, what would you have him do?

Again, real wages down 15 years in a row under the previous policy, and that's why Americans voted for him.

They brought him in to turn the economy around for the American worker, and that's what he's focused on.

I'm just trying to get some clarity.

Is that the

strategy?

I can't stand it.

I want you to say it.

Say it.

Say it.

Is that the president's strategy or not?

He posted it.

He said the strategy is to lower the markets to crash so the Fed lowers interest rates.

It's not a strategy for the markets to crash.

It is not a strategy for the markets to to crash.

It's a strategy to create a golden age in America for the American worker.

That's his strategy.

GP Morgan says the risk of a recession has climbed to 60%.

Your response?

We just had one of the stronger jobs reports I've seen in a long time.

It was about 50% better than markets expected.

It's the second one in a row.

We've created already something like 10,000 auto jobs since President Trump took office.

And I just got word, anecdotal word last night, that auto plants are adding second shifts in the U.S.

in order to respond to this tariffs.

And Nissan, Nucon in particular.

What's that?

Oh, Nissan.

Nissan, who has a big factory here.

They decide to double production or something.

They figure they can really take advantage of the situation.

So now...

Wait, wait, I have two more clips here.

This is where Hassett makes a crucial mistake,

and Stephanopoulos is going to hound him for it.

But a tariff is a tax increase, isn't it?

A tariff is a form of tax.

It's a way that you collect revenue when you import products.

Yes.

And consumers pay that tax, correct?

No, because it depends on supply and demand.

Elasticity is supply and demand.

And again, if you thought consumers are going to pay that tax, then you should be puzzled about it.

Now he's saying tax.

Why it is that countries are upset about it?

Well, I'm just, I'm asking you.

I'm focused on the consumers right now.

You've conceded the prices are going to go up.

They might go up.

They might go up some, but not nearly as much as you implied in your piece.

And the reason is that the supply is inelastic in China.

Again, I'll give you the simple example.

If you have have an apple tree that has 100 apples,

and then you're paying $1 an apple, and then there's a 10 cent tax, then

if you raise the price to $1.10, people reduce their demand.

And so maybe they only demand 90 apples, but then you've got 10 apples left.

And so what are you supposed to do with the 10 apples that nobody wants?

So what happens is the suppliers have to lower the price of apples in order to get back to 100 and 100.

And so the question is, is supply inelastic or not?

And I think that by seeing persistent trade deficits year after year after year, then we can say, yeah, supply is very inelastic.

So you're saying consumers are either either going to have to buy less or pay more, but the tariff is a tax.

You can just concede.

No, what happens is that the supplier cuts his price so that the price is still a dollar.

Good by example.

Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, Assert.

You screwed that one up.

You should have.

The whole thing is screwed up.

Never take it.

The question, you should turn these questions around on these interviewers.

And one example is: why is it if it's if it's the American consumer is going to pay more for something and thus being a quasi-tax, how come Range Rover, for example, who sends, I think, 100,000 vehicles to the United States every year out of a production of 400,000, they send 100,000 vehicles to the United States.

They decided to not send any because they don't want to pay the tariffs.

You mean the tax.

How does that work?

Well, or just, I mean, as we discussed on the last show,

the real thing you say is, well, then why would China try and hurt its people with a 34% increase in tariffs?

It's a tax.

Are they trying to send it to the tax?

Another example.

You can turn these questions around.

Trump usually has guys that can do that.

Yeah, but Hassard, he went to Apple's.

No.

Sorry.

Somebody needs some media training over there.

That was

not.

He's no good.

Curry Devorah Consulting Group is a big one.

He's badgered by

Steppanoff.

You can back him off by saying you just keep repeating the same question over and over.

What am I supposed to do?

I'm going to answer it the same way.

You're just going to bore people stiff with the same question over and over and over until I change my answer.

What are you doing here?

Dvorak for Commerce Secretary.

I mean, director of the National Economic Council, whatever.

You could do it.

You could do it.

You could do it.

You'd be good.

All right.

You had clips?

Yeah, I have a couple, but I don't have a lot, but I have the tariff.

Here's the rundown from NPR that's just a backup clip to give us a general overview.

Businesses and stock markets around the world are reeling from President Trump's new 10% percent tariffs on nearly everything the U.S.

imports.

Those went into effect today.

25 percent tariffs on foreign-made autos are also in effect.

That'll set Wall Street lower for its worst week in five years.

China hit back, announcing a 34 percent tariff on all American goods.

And Fierce Scott Horsley has more.

For decades, Trump has nursed this grievance that other countries are taking advantage of the U.S., and he has a kind of steam-driven necessity.

Hold on a second.

I didn't catch this.

This is a kind of a, oh, bullcrap.

This is a depression.

Oh, he's been nursing this grievance, and it's like as if other people are taking advantage.

I mean, the way it's this is this haughty

presentation of the facts.

It's just

we've been doing this for over 17 years.

Will these people ever stop?

Well, they don't listen to the show.

For decades, Trump has nursed this grievance that other countries are taking advantage of the U.S.

And he has a kind of steam-driven nostalgia for the Gilded Age when the U.S.

was less globally connected.

You heard him talk about that period before 1913.

Why that year?

That's when the U.S.

adopted the income tax.

Now, Trump wants to cut the income tax and replace some of that revenue with his new tariffs.

That would be good for wealthy Americans who would get most of the benefit of the tax cut, but it's not so good for lower-income families who have to pay more for imported food and clothes and other necessities.

Yeah, this is

because the poor people won't be able to

have to pay more for their imported caviar.

The poor people have to pay more for their imported food.

What poor people eat imported food?

They're eating stuff out of a bag with a barcode.

Give me a break.

So, okay, good.

I'm glad you got that.

Here's a local report from CBS, I think, in Florida, about

the tax plan, and the Senate seems like it's taking it up.

Over the weekend, Senate Republicans are set to take a major step in the direction of passing President Trump's agenda, teeing up a vote later this year on a tax cut package paid for by cutting government spending.

The bill would most likely include an extension of the president's signature legislative accomplishment from his first term, the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which raised the standard deduction for taxpayers, but will expire at the end of this year if no action is taken.

The bill could also accomplish other large pieces of Trump's agenda, including tax incentives he campaigned on, like no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on social security benefits, and raising the state and local tax deduction or SALT cap.

That sounds like nothing but tax cuts for rich people.

But some of the plan's largest pieces haven't been ironed out yet, with Republicans still looking for ways to pay for some of these tax cuts.

Democrats on Capitol Hill saying they will oppose the Republican plan and claim Republicans will cut Medicaid and other social services to cover the plan's cost.

The job of the Democrats over the next 36 hours is to hold the Republicans' feet to the fire, force them to tell the truth about what they want to do to the American economy and what they believe fairness is.

And that is a country that works for a handful of billionaires and lets everybody else eat dirt.

Though this past week, Republicans notched.

We're going to eat dirt.

It's not even canned goods.

You're eating dirt.

You're eating dirt.

Past week, week, Republicans notched two victories in special elections in Florida, clawing back two vacant Republican-friendly seats.

House Republicans still have an extremely slim majority in Congress.

The horse trading necessary to reach an agreement that nearly all Republicans can support could prove to be extremely difficult.

House Speaker Mike Johnson claims to have the smallest Republican majority in American history and says he wants to pass the finished bill in the next couple of months.

I didn't know it was the smallest majority in American history.

That doesn't make any sense.

It's pretty small, but

if

claims.

Oh, yeah.

Why don't you just look it up, reporter?

Yeah.

It would take two seconds.

Any of the AI search engines could do it.

Is this the smallest majority in history?

You look it up.

Instead, you say he claims.

It proved to be extremely difficult.

House Speaker Mike Johnson claims to have the smallest Republican majority in American history and says he wants to get asked to finish bill in the next couple months.

Timing that could prove to be extremely tricky.

So imagine my surprise when I got this report from KTLA in Los Angeles.

This is the local Jamoque guy.

He's

I was just surprised that he got local Jamoque.

That's an actual position.

That's a show time.

It's a position within every news newsroom colloquium.

We go now to our local Jamoque in Los Angeles about the trade war.

What's interesting about the super rich is back in the 19th century, early 20th century, much, much, if not most of their wealth was tied to actual things, railroads, factories, that sort of thing.

Nowadays, the super rich have their money almost exclusively in stocks.

So when the stock market does well, they get much richer.

When the stock market has a bad day, like today, they get poorer.

And that's obviously a big deal for them because these guys keep score in dollar signs.

Now, what makes this more interesting is that President Trump has been largely immune to criticism from, well, the hoi polloy.

But he does listen to his peers in the millionaire and billionaire class.

I think it's a fair bet to say that a number of rich people will be calling the White House to say, dude, what's going on?

Moreover, worth pointing out, this is the wealthiest cabinet in the White House ever.

More billionaires sitting in that building than ever before.

It's hard not to think that more than one or two are walking down the hall to the Oval Office and saying, Mr.

President, sir, can I have a moment?

Yeah.

doesn't that say something?

Local joke?

I thought that was it.

Now, contrast that with Senator Chuck Schumer.

And why is he doing these tariffs?

Why would he do something like this?

Because the Republican Party is in the vice grip of

a group of very greedy billionaires.

They have a billionaire bubble.

And they say, all this.

Oh, by the way, he's got lots of alliteration.

He's trying to launch all kinds of meme phrases.

The billionaire bubble.

The billionaire bubble.

And they say,

all this money from tariffs could help make our taxes lower.

It's a disgrace.

It's an absolute disgrace.

The amendment that we're doing calls for rescinding Trump's disastrous chaotic tariffs that are hurting Americans.

Everything's going to go up.

Groceries, medicines, cars, gasoline, furniture, clothing.

So far, gasoline is down.

Okay, everything is going to be down.

Yeah, but there's been almost a collapse of the oil market.

Yeah, I have a clip on that.

But let me just finish Schumer.

You name it.

It's going to go up because this is across the board, across the world.

And by the way, businesses hate this.

Not just big businesses, small businesses.

They need certainty.

Small businesses.

I got a text from

Justin at OP Way.

You know, he started Pearl Boot after their OP Way shoe company, America-made shoes, got devastated by the hurricane in North Carolina.

You know what he said?

He said, I hate Trump for doing this.

I can't believe he's trying to make it easy for me to start a business without competition.

I'm a small businessman.

I hate it.

And when they hear about

this doing well, of course.

And when they hear about all these tariffs coming out, they don't hire any new people.

They don't expand any services.

They don't build a new plant.

They say, uh-oh, these tariffs are coming.

I've got to keep my money in my pocket.

Literally building a new factory.

A mini factory, but a factory.

It's just like Schumer has never worked a day in his life.

He's been on the public dole.

He's rich.

Here we go.

The whole thing.

He's just bullet.

I don't understand why they haven't gotten rid of him by now.

I don't know what photos he's got, but

how he stays in office.

Let's wind it up with the meme of the well, before you wind it up, I have a couple more.

12 seconds.

I have 12 seconds left.

No, I'm saying you're winding up the whole

I'm winding up Schumer.

No,

I have so much.

I have OPEC, whatever you want.

Let's finish Schumer because he's going to wind it up with the meme of the week.

Terrorists are so poorly planned that he's taxing penguins, not Putin.

Taxing penguins, not Putin.

There it is, everybody.

The tax is levied on the herd in McDonald Islands, who's only where only penguins live, but he's leaving Russia alone.

Schumer is behind all this.

He's so weak.

Yeah, but Schumer is behind these types of things.

This guy.

He stinks at it.

Well, yeah, remember the scripted thing that all the senators were doing?

He totally stinks at it.

I have two clips from Bloomberg about the OPEC if you want it.

You want to do something else.

I think we OPEC's done.

Well, I wanted to play.

This is obscure.

This I'm sure you don't have or know about.

These are two clips about Timu.

Did you hear about what's that this is I don't know why this has been overlooked.

This is something you could really drive home and really upset people with.

Yeah.

Timu's dead and this executive order that I didn't know about that hasn't been played up in the media for reasons unknown to me because

the below $800?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think we talked about it.

Well, it's fairly new, but this is a I think this presentation is quite good.

A head spinning week for the economy.

Hold on on a second.

I mean, come on, man.

Can't you just put it on the clip like Scott is coming?

Suffering succotash.

I'm Scott.

Simon.

A head-spinning week for the spin.

By the way,

who put that little...

What is the point of

the air horn in the middle of the

I'm Scott Hawks?

What is the point of anything on this show?

Just

what is the point?

A head-spinning week for the economy.

President Trump's tariffs hitting just about every nation and every industry.

Here's something that got less attention.

The president also moved to close a popular loophole known as the De minimis rule.

Yeah, de minimis.

It allows millions of U.S.

shoppers to buy products, everything from shoes and underwear to lamps and tools.

Don't you remember that

the Postal Service says we're not going to be delivering these packages, and then they turned it around all of a sudden after this executive order came out?

It was the oddest thing.

This whole thing is fairly odd, but

I've been thinking about this because I like these cheap, you know, I think LA Express.

Yeah, you love USB.

It's junk.

But the thing is, you get this crap.

I mean, it comes straight from China and it comes pretty quickly.

And I think there's some sort of a deal with the boots.

Well, they have their own, now they have their own warehouses in America, Timu.

So this junk

comes in by the boatload, and you order like 20 items, and the whole bill is like 40 bucks.

And

10 of the items are garbage.

And the other ones, you go, well, I don't know, maybe this is.

I have to reiterate, you know, Tina buys all kinds of clothing stuff.

You know, it's probably in the $70 range,

$45, $75 range.

And, you know, and this is what,

so many women do this.

They'll order five pieces and they're going to send four back.

And now it's at the point where,

and I'm sure this is all coming from China, Vietnam, et cetera,

where the company will say, if you don't send it back to us, we'll give you a 110% credit of what you paid.

I mean,

that's got to stop at a certain point.

They do not want, they don't want the returns.

No, because it's it's junk.

Yes.

Directly from retailers in China and Hong Kong.

Till now, you could make those purchases without paying import taxes.

That's about to change.

NPR's Brian Mann has been following this.

Brian, thanks for being with us.

Hi there, Scott.

How big is closing this loophole?

Well, Scott, it's huge, really, in two ways.

First, it's going to affect a lot of American consumers who have come to rely on big Chinese e-commerce firms like Xi'an and Temu for a lot of low-cost products.

As you mentioned, this is everything from fast fashion to toys and tools.

These companies have built global brands marketing on social media platforms like Instagram and TikTok, where influencers celebrate when their packages arrive.

Check out my latest Shein haul.

Ballet flats are trending, and this quilted pair has a great cushion soul.

With marketing like that, Scott, over the last decade, U.S.

shoppers fell in love with these companies.

Direct-to-consumer international shipments exploded to around $54 billion in sales last year.

Roughly 4 million packages coming every day.

What's going to change with Trump's new executive order?

So, under this de minimis rule, shoppers who place orders worth under $800, and you can get a lot of low-cost dresses or office supplies for that amount, they haven't until now been hit with duties or taxes.

And they also get their packages really fast because they haven't had to wait for the usual customs and inspection process.

But under the president's executive order, that's going to come to a screeching halt May 2nd.

Every package will now face a tariff of 30%.

Eventually, anything consumers order in this way is going to face a minimum fee of 50 bucks.

And remember, if you're buying a $2 t-shirt or a $10 skirt, that amount of tax is a huge markup.

Yeah, May 2nd.

Okay.

I thought that this had already gone into effect.

Is this a new report?

Yeah, this came yesterday.

Okay.

This is good.

Yeah, May 2nd.

So get your orders in, people.

Order your junk.

Get your dresses, your cheap dresses, and everything.

This may be a boom.

They make good cameras.

I'm doing you.

No, I'm talking about the Chinese making cameras.

They make Nikon cameras and other cameras.

Yeah, cameras.

Cameras.

I'm just saying they can make high-quality products.

I'm not saying Timu and Shein and

the other operations are making quality products.

It's junk, and it's probably toxic junk.

Wouldn't surprise me.

Well, a lot of it stinks.

I think there was an ad for WeatherTech that basically

kids wearing masks, the gas masks, when they bought the Chinese junk.

All right.

Second.

Because a lot of this stuff does stink.

Oh, yeah.

It's nasty.

One thing that's interesting here, a study published last year predicts that this change is going to cost Americans more than $10 billion a year in higher prices, with much of that burden hitting.

What is that all about?

This is like this is assuming they're going to keep buying stuff at 50 bucks minimum.

You have to pay 50 bucks over the top and then all the rest of it plus the tariffs and you have to wait.

It's not going to cost the American public $10 billion.

The American public's not going to spend a nickel.

No, the American public's going to go, I don't need that junk.

It's no longer cheap junk.

It's just junk.

So this is a bullcrap number.

Well, but this is

created.

Yeah.

With much of that burden hitting lower income shoppers.

Oh, there we go again.

The lower income.

The poor people.

The poor income people.

The poor people.

Buying directly from Chinese and Hong Kong retailers is so

popular in America.

Why change the rule?

Yeah, that's a great question.

Great question.

Great question.

And a lot of President Trump's tariffs have obviously been controversial, but this move actually has broad bipartisan support, backing from a bunch of different public safety and industry groups.

And they have really two arguments.

First, they say this has been unfair competition.

All these cheap, untaxed goods flooding American markets, pricing out U.S.

manufacturers.

Second, government officials believe a lot of illegal stuff, including street fentanyl, the drug, is coming across the border hidden in these packages.

I spoke about this with Kimberly Glash.

She heads the National Council of Textile Organization.

That's a trade group that supports U.S.

clothesmakers.

And it's regrettably facilitated fentanyl and other illicit products like forced labor products to our front doors on our steps, babies products that are failing to meet FDA standards.

Now, I should say these big e-commerce companies like Xi'an and Temus say they do have ethical supply chains and quality control.

But what we know is that this change, it's going to be a huge blow to their business model.

Brian, this executive order only affects shipments from China and Hong Kong.

What about products that are sold directly from other countries?

Yeah, so for now, shoppers can still buy directly from retailer shipping from other countries like Bangladesh, India, and Vietnam.

But the Trump administration has signaled that it plans to close these de minimis loopholes in the months ahead for the entire globe.

They're phasing this in slowly because it turns out it's a big challenge for U.S.

customs and border protection to process and tax all these millions of packages.

All right.

I'm feeling there was a very long game being played here.

And this goes back to the TikTok ban, which, by the way,

not a lot of talk of

China stealing our information anymore.

I just don't see that.

I guess it's not important anymore.

It was the most important thing ever.

And so I remember that there was a carve-out.

There was a carve-out from shopping sites like Timu.

There was a carve-out from

review sites.

This is from the, what you found very tedious Supreme Court decision about TikTok.

Even if you could get just to the data security question, again, you'd have to ask the question: would this law have been passed by Congress for data security reasons?

Because you're asking to uphold a law based on that single governmental interest.

And when you look through the provisions, like the content recommendation algorithm provision, like the covered company provisions, the answer is no.

And if you're still in doubt on that, just go back to the under-inclusiveness problem.

Would a Congress really worried about these very dramatic risks?

Leave out an e-commerce site like Temu that has 70 million Americans using it and every bit the connection is going to be.

Doesn't Congress have to go all or nothing on that?

I mean, it doesn't have to go all or nothing.

They isolate a particular problem.

So that was part of the carve-out is TMU.

And I think now, considering that the number one retailer, as we know, TikTok is really the TikTok shop,

is now last-minute bid with an extension which will last around May or beyond May.

I'm thinking they totally screwed the Chinese.

And here's the Amazon bid.

TikTok saved for now.

Today, President Trump is saying he will sign an executive order to keep TikTok running in the U.S.

for another 75 days in order to give time to American investors interested in buying the social media platform.

Trump posting on Truth Social, we do not want TikTok to go dark.

We look forward to working working with TikTok and China to close the deal, adding how China is not happy about tariffs he says are necessary for trade.

TikTok going dark back in January for a few hours, which created confusion, especially for the many small business owners that rely on the app.

It completely went down voluntarily because it had not been sold off.

And users in the U.S., 170 million of them, could not use TikTok.

And it created pandemonium.

Users started flocking to rival social networks.

The Trump administration then set an April 5th deadline for the app to be banned in the U.S.

if it wasn't sold by its Chinese-owned parent company, ByteDance.

The issue, TikTok's algorithm, and its national security concerns over China's ownership of the app.

There are concerns about not just the data privacy, but about what people see using TikTok.

And according to reports, TikTok will still own the algorithm.

And that's mixing up what people see.

And that raises different concerns.

Sources say there are several investors interested in jumping in to purchase TikTok, including Amazon, Oracle, and App Loven.

TikTok is not only popular with users, but also e-commerce.

TikTok shop reportedly makes an estimated $30 billion worth of sales globally and about $9 billion in the U.S.

I think the president screwed the Chinese on this.

I think you might be right because what happened with if you add the 54 billion of Timu, that's what they make, plus 30 billion here.

You're getting to the $100 billion mark yearly.

And

she hasn't even been mentioned, whatever they make.

This whole thing may be interlocked, it sure feels like it, and you know, everyone's like, Oh, it'll be believe me, TikTok is not interesting for the social aspect other than social shopping.

That's what they do, okay.

It's great for the show.

Oh, I can't believe I said that's great for the show, it's great for the show because it makes you happy, it makes you happy, just because it makes you happy, so it's great for the show, uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

But think about the, it's like China.

Okay, listen, either you sell it to Amazon and the president has said, and we're going to be part owner of it.

That's what he kept saying.

Oh, $500 billion.

I don't know about that, but

we're going to be part owner.

If not, oh, screw you then.

Goodbye.

There goes that.

So Amazon seems to be the one.

I don't see.

Amazon may be part of this whole scheme because Amazon's the one that's hurt the most by Timu and Shein.

Yeah.

At least

other people are hurt by them too.

But Amazon, I think, is hit hard because of all the

junk.

Besides the clothing,

the junk tools and the junk this and junk.

I mean, it's just junk.

It's junk.

Where Amazon normally would be the one selling the same junk.

And I've pointed this out with a mouse that I bought from one of these operations.

I think I bought it from AliExpress.

A little

fabulous mouse.

Fabulous.

It was five bucks

direct from China.

I got a copy.

There it is.

I have it here.

And it's the same mouse I bought a year earlier from Amazon for $11.

And the difference of $5 and $11 for the exact same product is pretty substantial.

Technology companies in general general is going to be very interesting what's happening and where I kind of made a flippant remark about turning off

our social networks to Europe.

Yeah,

I think there's something going on.

This is, you know, France and the UK are now teaming up, teaming up because we've got a combat with stop buying American products.

Oh, wait a minute.

They're not actually made in America.

Under their star-spangled banner, the United States is home to a constellation of brands, many of which can be found in France.

Mobile phones, groceries, and everyday goods, could these items soon be taxed by the European Union in retaliation to President Donald Trump's sweeping new trade policies?

Many American products are part of daily lives in France, including almonds, of which California is the largest producer.

Now President Trump has slapped a 10% tariff on most imports and raised the EU levy rate to 20%.

These are products that I consume on a regular or daily basis.

We'll probably probably have to rethink the way we shop.

Honestly, if it becomes too expensive, I won't buy these products anymore.

That's the product.

That key, of course, I won't buy, which is what people keep overlooking.

If it's too expensive, I won't buy it.

And by the way, who eats almonds every day?

But wait, what products are they not going to buy?

Where are they made?

The way we shop.

Honestly, if it becomes too expensive, I won't buy these products anymore.

But the products the French consume most are made in other countries.

For example, iPhones are made in China, and American athletic brand Nike has factories across Southeast Asia.

For certain fast food chains or sweet drinks, production is even located in France.

Pepsi, MM, Ariel, and Coca-Cola are all made in the country, so their costs shouldn't be affected.

Bank of America analysts say among the global panic, there is some good news.

Commodity prices are falling for the first time in four years.

Oil prices have fallen to an average of 65 US dollars per barrel, the same for wheat and cotton.

The EU's answer to President Trump could be American big tech.

One option is to target social media platforms and streaming services with regulations and other restrictions.

I say cut them off.

That would be so funny.

Cut them off.

Just sorry.

Remember when

these things first came into play, maybe about 10 years ago, with the

digital regulations that when I was in Europe you go to a website and it would say sorry uh g uh the the what is it GPR

GDRP

you know the yeah

yeah

some regulation g yeah GDRP that's what it is you know so about

information that you have on people and you have to adhere to certain

certain guidelines or rules really

So now they're going to try, because of course there's a lot of money that comes into America from Europe based on, you know, from Meta and Google and some from X, I'm sure, and Microsoft

operating system still.

You think somebody, I mentioned this to Mimi the other day, I said, you know, so during the rescue of the astronauts,

that Elon Musk had started SpaceX from scratch, basically, by taking a bunch of NASA people and putting them together.

And now, all of a sudden, they have the best rocket you can buy,

pretty much, because we were buying our rocket engines from Russia for years.

Yep.

And so now we make our own, and it's better than anybody else's.

I'm thinking, as this is going on, and

we've got the capsules, we got all this stuff, and we can't find somebody to make a new operating system.

Well, we have to.

I mean, it seems to me we got the ability to

build a space program from scratch, and somebody can't come along and beat Windows.

We have Linux

besides Linux, which stinks?

No, it does.

It doesn't stink.

Oh, then why aren't you using it?

I do use Linux.

I can't use it in the studio because

the stupid Australians won't give us drivers that work with Linux.

But otherwise, yeah, I do use Linux all the time.

Yeah, but I'm just saying, as an example, you can't use it for the production of this show.

You are using LibreOffice?

I use a lot of public.

I use a lot of these things, but it's beside the point.

Why don't we just get rid of Windows still dominates?

Can't we get rid of Windows?

It's gone bad.

It's no good.

In fact, what's the deal with, oh, Windows 10 is going to be the last Windows you'll ever need.

And now I keep getting these whole screen messages.

Oh, you've got to move to Windows 11.

It won't work anymore.

I just promise.

Where's a lawsuit on this?

Where's somebody coming out with a lawsuit that, because they promised that Windows 10 was it?

That's right.

Windows 10, I have not upgraded, even though they keep telling me I should, because it's going to end.

It won't work anymore.

I'm going to wake up one day, do the show, and the show won't be there.

This is illegal.

Where's the FTC when it comes to this?

They made a verbal, they said it in public that Windows 10 is the last Windows.

Really?

You don't remember this?

I don't think this is about five years ago when they first brought out Windows 10.

They said, oh, Windows 10 is it.

This is the end.

Now it's just going to be upgrades of Windows 10.

You're going to live a fabulous life.

The term Windows and Fabulous Life just does not go together no matter what.

Interesting.

Well,

I'd like to have some clip of that.

I believe you, without a doubt.

But of course, the same was said for Vista.

Vista.

Vista.

Which turned out to be pretty good in hindsight.

Yeah, but that only lasted like three years or two years.

But it got bad PR at the beginning.

It was poorly done.

It was a crap name.

It was a crap name.

Vista, yeah, Vista.

Vista.

Okay, since they were talking about consumers, consumers saying, nah, no, I just won't buy these products, which is exactly what will happen.

Over in Washington State, Como, Como, the big Como.

They seem like they were, which is home of Costco.

They were really trying to spark some kind of hype panic, panic buying.

And and and the people in washington went no not really courting away like normal but for how long for how long at costco and shoreline many shoppers told como they worried more about the result of panic buying than the pumped up prices or just like an extra luxury item it's not really necessary if you were smart enough you would have already been prepared and have non-perishable foods anyway

According to the manager of this store, everything has been normal so far.

In fact, he told us the overall Costco company, of course, based in Issaquah, doesn't expect a major impact from tariffs, and customers agreed.

It's always been busy.

I don't know a day that's not busy at Costco.

Well, everything is normal at this store.

Economist Tel Como, overall panic buying is still a possibility, especially as costs go up for pretty much anything.

These tariffs started off.

off very targeted but they've become quite broad.

Yet in Shoreline, customers told us it's not time to panic by, and it never is.

I don't think anyone needs to like go and run and clear out the Costco.

That's probably not healthy for our community.

This is the actual problem.

This is what freaks the rest of the world out, is that the American public may just become a little more frugal.

We may just wake up one day and go, you know, this kind of junk.

My house is filled with junk.

My kids got junk plastic toys.

I got junk everywhere.

It's just

I got junk.

The

internet of things everywhere.

It's just junk.

It's junk.

And I'm sick of the junk.

And if that really happens, oh baby.

Because

we are the consumer of the world.

We buy everyone's junk.

And that's just.

We can stop.

Yeah, I think we might.

I think that's what everybody is worried about.

Junk

has to be cheap.

Yes.

But I want to play.

And that's where I think that, you know, now Timu and Xi and those guys are big enough that they should be able to relocate to Vietnam or do something else and still stay in business.

It's going to be a moment where they can't.

But, I mean, you just can't do that instantly.

The Chinese are fast at putting buildings up.

They're faster than we are by a lot.

Vietnam is talking about zero tariffs.

They're already like.

Vietnam has caved.

Yeah.

Well, the smart money.

Vietnam is one of the smartest countries in the world.

They have one of the highest literacy rates of all civilized nations.

That's something like 97%.

It's very high.

Wow.

That's more than us.

It's way more than us.

Yeah.

And not only that, but many are bilingual.

They speak English and they speak Vietnamese.

And it's a very smart country with a lot of craftsmen, and

it's kind of always underrated because of the government itself.

The government is

communist, and so it doesn't

quite get it.

I want to play

these Bloomberg clips about OPEC because I have some questions for you.

OPEC decision was really kind of the second blow to oil prices yesterday.

We were already trading a bit lower.

And the way it worked out, during the trading day here in the Middle East, the OPEC announcement came hours after people were already digesting

the tariff decision, which had happened Wednesday in the U.S., but people woke up to it on Thursday here in the region.

So we were already trading lower because of concerns about those tariffs, increasing inflation, hurting economic activity, which is something that we've been dealing with

throughout this year, really.

Oil has been very volatile already, but staying in that range, and we just kind of went way below that.

We lost about 7% give or take yesterday because that OPEC increase was much higher than expected.

We expected OPEC to kind of roll over the increase that we're seeing here in April.

Okay, now the question is: why did they do this?

And I thought this was interesting.

Why did OPEC decide to bring forward the timing of the extra barrel production to the market?

Why did they do this now?

Yeah, so it had been a long, kind of convoluted formula to bring this oil production back.

And really, they're bringing up basically three times as much, so three months of increase in one, basically.

So, as you say, bringing that forward, we're still unwinding some of those voluntary cuts that some of the OPEC plus members have made.

And they're looking at inventories, seeing them not as high maybe as they thought.

Of course, one of the factors that we've been looking at all along, really, since COVID has been the recovery of China.

That demand there is still sluggish, not coming back as much as they would have wanted to support the market.

But we're not seeing that build up in inventories.

Perhaps also there's some thinking by OPEC that a lot of the members had been cheating on their quotas anyway, overproducing anyway.

So maybe these quotas kind of grow into the production, as you will,

for some of those producers.

And then there's the idea that they have been losing market share with the Trump administration that wants to increase production.

Now, whether that's going to happen or not because of the low oil prices, that's another question.

Maybe OPEC is trying to forestall some of that by bringing down the price a little bit here.

The oil baron keeps saying, no, we're not going to drill.

We're not going to drill, baby, drill.

And yet, look at what's happening.

Is this our friends in saudi arabia i think it's a combination of things i think one that they're afraid that we are going to drill and that's going to force prices down so they decided to put the screws to us by lowering prices thanks and by increasing the output the other possibility is that trump has actually talked to him and said look you got to get this down so you can hey saudi arabia what's that in your mouth

you know and you we got it also puts a little pressure on russia because they're making all their money on uh yeah still making a lot of money on petroleum

It's probably a combination of things, but definitely coming down.

It's going to keep gasoline prices lower.

It should lower everything, especially if it can get down to below 60.

That would be great.

That really hurts American oil, though.

I've always been told.

Well, if they're not planning on drilling in the first place, what difference does it make?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But below 65 apparently is hurtful.

It's what I've always said.

Oh, the poor babies.

Hey, the oil.

Remember, the oil baron sold his ranch for 15 million.

Yeah, what is he bitching about?

Oh, he's not bitching.

He's okay.

He's okay.

He's not crying.

He bought a new ranch already.

I mean, just take a look at Exxon mobile stock.

It's ridiculously high.

I will say,

I had some AI experience,

and I'm going to tell you that

I actually think

this,

I can't believe I'm going to say this.

This agentic AI.

Agentic AI.

Yeah, and define that.

Well, I actually

got

a trial from, well, the trial didn't last long from Manus.im, Manus, M-A-N-U-S.im.

And

what agentic AI is, the way I see what it's doing,

is you say, okay, I need something done

and it fires up a computer.

I mean, I presume it says starting the computer.

So it starts a computer.

It starts a browser.

It does.

It does.

But it's like it pulling a rope and it's just cranks.

Yeah, well, that's like, yeah, it's like starting

an AWS.

Yeah, you start up a little computer.

It's already running.

But anyway, go on.

I'm sorry, I'm into the semantics.

Yeah, you are into the semantics, but I'm just telling you what it says.

It says, okay, I'm starting the computer.

It starts a web browser, and it tells you what it's doing.

And you see the URLs as it's searching for stuff.

And then, you know, what AI does quite well is creating summaries and stuff like that.

But you could, but here's where I think it's going.

So it's basically an agent.

You tell this agent, go and do something.

Something I could do.

I could do it myself and I can find all these things and I can search for it.

But, you know, why don't I pay three bucks for it?

And the problem, of course, is that it's three bucks every single time you ask for something.

This is very expensive, this agentic AI.

But you can even say, hey, I have a repetitive task.

I have to go to this website.

I have to click all these different buttons.

Can you do it for me?

Yes.

And then it opens up the browser.

the computer's browser for you.

And you can do click, click, click, click.

It's basically like creating a macro.

And I think if you, if there's anything AI will do besides the just most wonderful fake videos and pictures and whatever, which is what you'd expect from something that's basically built on

GPUs, we know it's good at that.

It's kind of a scripting macro tool.

The question is,

how much will it really cost?

You know, at a certain point, if you're going to use this,

do you wind up paying $20,000 a year and that is thus cheaper than a $45,000 a year person?

But I don't see you going much further than this.

But that part, I have to say, is cool because you can just, it can do stuff that you want it to replicate.

And in that case, it's an agent.

I'm going to stop you.

What is it you had it do that it was so important that you were so impressed?

Spinning up a

web, a streaming radio station, and I want to replicate it.

So I want it to start up the same one, different instances, and there's no way to do it with the streaming radio station.

And so you have to do a whole bunch of things with custom crossfades,

custom processing.

custom playlists and it would take me about an hour an hour and a half to do that if I wanted to replicate that.

And so now I just tell the thing to do it, and it costs me about $2.50 if that's the real price.

I mean, that's what they're charging now.

I mean, once it really comes down to we got to make money, it may cost too much.

And that, and that I was impressed with that,

but it's not.

Do you have the same agent do your RSS feeds?

Well, now that's a good question.

Yeah,

I wouldn't see why not.

You mean so.

Well, now you have a little subproduct there.

Oh, no.

That's what I'm saying.

But how much will it cost?

I don't believe that they're really charging,

you know, I think they're going for market share here.

Yeah, so you think that they're under, that they're shipping money with every time you give them three bucks.

They're actually giving you $100 worth of product.

So you get the free trial.

It's a thousand credits.

Give me a thousand credits.

Well, that blew off in like three minutes.

And they're like, okay, but I really want to try this.

I said, well, let me buy some credits.

So you go

$39 a month.

I fully expected to

cancel.

$39 is more than chat GPT.

Now, that's almost double chat GPT.

And really, if I needed to do this on a regular basis, you have to go to the $290 a month.

At that point, it's like, I'll do it myself.

And I think that they're still shipping off money to me while doing that.

I just can't believe that that's profitable.

You don't know for sure.

Don't know for sure.

But they've got a lot of VC investment.

So

we know the Silicon Valley strategy.

So it's really not.

We know that the deep seek model or however they're doing, the training doesn't seem to be so expensive.

Supposedly, we'll see.

You know, the Mag 7 problem, as

Besson said, versus the MAGA problem.

But all these data centers, they're in the wrong place.

They need to be closer.

They need to be cheaper.

It's really going to be, I mean,

hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars just to fire up expensive computers.

I don't know if that model will work.

Maybe it'd be better if I bought the model and used it in my own home.

I don't know.

But that thing, that's interesting.

That does work.

And I can see where repetitive tasks that no one ever

built to fix the stupidity, this is a shortcut.

That seems like it seems like it works.

I was surprised by that.

So I will relent a little bit, but AI is not going to take over the world and eat the universe.

Yeah.

Oh, yes.

Well, I'm glad you're happy.

Well, I'm marginally happy.

I thought the price

was steep.

Yeah.

Price was steep.

What's your time worth?

You know, that sort of thing.

I got nothing but time, man.

What are you talking about?

I got nothing but time.

Well, then you don't need to buy anything.

So

let's talk about the dead bees.

We were going to do that in the last show.

Yes, finally.

Finally.

Before we all die, let's talk about the bees.

You have, where is it here?

I have two dead bee clips.

Ah, dead bee.

Dead bee.

The beekeeping industry is in crisis over the shocking and unexplained deaths of hundreds of millions of bees over the last eight months.

It could impact all of us, as bees called the backbone of agriculture, are responsible for pollinating more than a third of the nation's crops, and current losses are unsustainable.

Janet Shamlian has more on this stinging decline.

This is what an unfolding disaster looks like in the U.S.

beekeeping industry.

Each of these hives can hold as many as 80,000 bees, but for reasons no one can pinpoint, the bees in all these hives and tens of thousands more have turned up dead.

Have you ever seen it this bad?

Never, not even close.

The dad is showing us that this is the worst bee loss in recorded history.

Blake Shook is one of the nation's top beekeepers.

He owns Desert Creek Honey and several other beekeeping businesses.

One of them is rebuilding dead hives, and he's receiving an alarming number of them.

Where are they from?

Yeah, these are from North Dakota that we're looking at right here.

Over there, we've got Florida.

Back here, we've got Georgia.

I've got California over in that corner.

Bees play a critical role in U.S.

food production.

In addition to making honey, they pollinate 75% of the fruits, nuts, and vegetables grown in the U.S.

It feels like I've heard this story before.

Yeah, this is why it came up in the conversation after the show when we did discuss some of these clips.

Yes, we had the bee die-off,

I think it was 10 years ago.

I have a 47-second clip from 2014.

2014.

Here we go.

Oregon leaders are taking action as thousands and thousands of bees are dying, likely from pesticides.

It's a big concern because insects, especially honeybees, pollinate about a third of what we eat.

There you go.

Same report, only they had an immediate culprit, which was pesticides.

Yeah, they don't have the culprit for this one.

And also, that period, the 2014 bee die-off, they also found some sort of mite,

some little bug that was on the bees.

And they thought it might have not been to pesticides at all, but this mite was causing nothing but trouble.

They haven't identified anything with these bees.

They're working on it.

But this is worse than before.

And it's not,

I mean, it could be just unnecessary panic, but this is interesting.

Here we go at part two.

That's $15 billion worth of crops.

If this is a multi-year thing, it'll change the way we consume food in the United States.

That's a pretty significant statement.

It's huge.

It's huge.

I mean, if we lose 80% of our bees every year, the industry cannot survive, which means we cannot pollinate at the scale that we need to produce food in the United States.

So what's causing the deaths?

And why now?

So these are dead bees in there, and they have always an identifier for a project.

Juliana Wrangel is an entomologist at Texas AM University.

She showed us the lab where they've been studying the bees.

One potential explanation is that over the last few years we've seen some locations across the U.S.

that have had lower forage available for bees.

So when they're supposed to be blooming, let's say in April, they're blooming either earlier in the year or later in the year.

And so we have these food deserts basically in the summer and fall that the bees sometimes cannot withstand.

Back at Shook's bee farm.

Here we go with the hood.

We suit it up for a look at his commercial operation.

Okay, you ready?

Yep.

All right, the first thing we do is smoke the entrance.

And that calms the bees down.

This is what a healthy hive looks like.

And then in the center here, this is where the baby bees are raised.

These just returned from California, where the bees were used to pollinate almonds.

Why are honey bees so essential to pollinating the almond crops?

With honey bees, almonds produce 2,000 to 3,000 pounds per acre.

Without bees, they produce 200 pounds per acre.

So there is no almond crop without honeybees.

Beekeeping groups say the losses may put as many as 25% of commercial operations out of business by year's end with wide-reaching impact.

I got a call from a friend who has 20,000 beehives at the start of winter, and he's at less than a thousand.

And he said, This is it.

I'm done.

Hmm.

Well?

Yep.

Yep, there's our bad news.

They're killing the bees.

They're killing the bees.

How about an uh got two funny M5M clips?

This is

actually, this is not even, it's not even that funny.

It's more puzzling.

The FCC is asking for the public's input on its idea to revise or eliminate some regulations on TV station ownership.

The initiative is called Delete, Delete, Delete.

The FCC chairman says he wants to promote local journalism by eliminating long-standing rules that put limits on ownership.

Our parent company, Nexstar, believes this will help local news survive and stay competitive into the future.

The FCC is accepting comments from the public through April 14th.

For more information, you can visit yourvoice.nxst.io.

Now, in what world will

more

big corporations owning more stations,

how will that stimulate local news?

I don't believe it for a second.

It doesn't have any bearing.

This is bull crap.

So is this?

This is one of those, yeah, if we do it this way, it'll be better.

But

just saying it's going to be better doesn't mean it's going to be better.

And if it's ill logic

that's involved, which is what we have here.

Again, long game.

What if this is the administration going, yeah,

yeah, you guys can own anything you want.

Go ahead.

It's going to make news great.

I mean, here's an example of what this results in.

This is a super cut from

only a handful of very large corporations who own all the media.

Yeah, I hear you screaming, BlackRock owns everything, sure.

This is the Maryland man super cut.

A critical hearing today in the case of a Maryland father mistakenly sent to that notorious prison in El Salvador.

Attorneys for the Maryland man who was mistakenly deported to a prison in El Salvador are making another push for his return today.

The Trump administration heads to federal court today after being accused of wrongfully deporting a Maryland father to El Salvador.

The Maryland man deported to El Salvador, Africa, an administrative error.

There's actually a court hearing involving the Maryland father.

The Maryland father's case is in court.

And happening now, a hearing for a Maryland man.

Details about a Maryland man tonight, the Maryland man, the Maryland man, Maryland father with protected legal status, the Maryland father with protected status, a Maryland father with protected legal status, the Maryland father with protected legal status, the Maryland father, that Maryland father, a Maryland father, the Maryland father, a Maryland father, a Maryland father,

a Maryland father.

One of the things that struck me was the lawyer for the Maryland man saying there is no such thing as a removal order to nowhere.

More of that, please.

More of that.

Let them own everything.

That's exactly what you'd end up with.

It's already with Sinclair broadcasting.

It's the worst case of that.

Sort of thing.

They are bad.

They are bad.

I mean, they're supposed to be the, and they're supposed to be the conservative network.

They're in Austin, I think.

They're in Austin.

Sinclair?

I thought they were in the Northeast.

No, I think they're Austin.

Austin headquarters.

They were.

By the way, all of this,

you know, deported the wrong guy.

My favorite is the gay hairdresser.

There's no evidence that the gay hairdresser was thrown into the El Salvador jail.

I have not seen any true evidence of this.

Just talk.

Have you seen anything?

No, none whatsoever.

Even Devil.

Why is the poor gay hair?

The poor gay hairdresser, which had

was all tatted up.

So that must

be why they did it because

they're careless.

Coleman is careless.

Well, here's the thing:

MS-13 has no hair.

That's a good point.

None of those guys have hair.

They're all bald.

They're all bald.

That's part of the look.

Yeah.

But I hear all these deported wrongly, made a mistake, clerical error, blah, blah, blah.

But I don't see

gay hair.

Why is the media not highlighting crying children of Maryland man and gay hair?

Well, gay hairdresser, maybe not, don't hasn't have kids.

Why don't they have mothers crying?

I don't see it.

If it was there, they would certainly be showing it.

Oh, yeah.

That's always the tell for me.

And by the way, Canada,

hello, Canada.

We love you.

Hello, Canada.

And now that Tom Ford loves us, man, remember that?

Tom Ford, he loves us.

He loves us.

He wants to give us minerals.

Take my minerals.

So Mark Carney is, he sees the writing on the wall.

Oh, we better do something for Canada.

We got to do something.

I think we should build government housing.

Government housing.

Hundreds of thousands of government homes, up to half a million.

By the way, you won't own them.

There will be rentals.

We used to build things in this country.

After the Second World War, Canada faced a housing crisis.

The government built prefabricated homes that were easy to assemble and inexpensive.

And those homes are still here 80 years later.

Now we're in another housing crisis.

And it's time your government got back into the business of building affordable homes.

We will build new homes for Canadians at a pace not seen since the Second World War.

We'll build a Canada you can afford.

Yes, we'll build a Canada.

And here's

Polyev.

I finally got it right.

Polyev's response to this ludicrous idea.

He wants to put the Liberal policies on steroids.

His housing plan, I don't know if you saw this earlier this week, he wants to create a government-run construction company that is going to make prefab tiny homes with no parking spots.

This is his idea for housing.

This is even more radical than the stuff that came from Stephen Gilbo and Justin Schrudeau over the last 10 years.

This is not a serious plan to protect our economy and break our dependence.

I love it.

Everybody gets a tiny home

with no parking.

No parking.

Yeah, you you don't need parking.

You'll have a 15-minute city.

You walk everywhere.

15 minutes.

And a bicycle.

15-minute city of tiny homes.

Sounds great.

We'll talk about the protests.

Big protests over the weekend.

Big, big protests, all run by Act Blue.

And

some odd union as well.

There were some

unions involved with this.

The Workers' Party.

But if you look at the, what was it called?

Identify, what were those guys called?

Identity.

Yeah, I think it's identify, not identify, it's something else.

No,

if you look at their website and you I always go to the just hit the donation link, people

act blue, that is a Democrat Party system.

That should have been, yeah, and they do a lot of embezzling, just like Win Red for the Republicans, which I think

I've never even seen or heard of Win Red.

Yeah, that's the,

what's his face?

Uh, the

Trump's

son-in-law,

You know, the one who's married to the daughter.

That one.

Yeah,

Jared.

Jared.

Jared?

Jared.

What's his name?

Jared.

The guy with Subway, Subway sandwiches.

Jared Kushner.

There you go.

It's Kushner's deal.

Kushner making.

He might have sold it, but he was making bank in the first place.

Yes, another

scam.

Scam.

It's a scam.

Skimmer.

Skimmer.

Protest BBC.

Let's start with that.

Is it from the World Service?

Yes, it is, actually.

Oh, hold on a second.

I need

World Service clips, and I've got them.

Yeah, okay.

There we go.

And now, live from London, we bring you the BBC World Service as we look around the globe for things taking place in your world.

In this case, we go to the protests against the evil President of the United States, Donald J.

Trump.

This is the BBC.

Tens of thousands of protesters marched in Washington and other major American cities on Saturday, denouncing President Trump and what they consider his authoritarian policies.

It was the largest single day of demonstrations against Mr.

Trump since his return to office.

Protesters condemned the dismissal of government officials, the breakup of the Federal Department of Education, and the president's sweeping new trade tariffs.

These people said the administration's actions would damage the economy and leave the USA weaker.

Stock market's crashing, the economy is going to crash, it's already crashing, and it's all about Trump.

His actions, his stupidity, his mistakes.

One of my major concerns is how much disinformation that they are perpetuating out in the public.

That basic science and basic facts that our democracy depends on is being torn down.

And when that happens, people people get hurt.

Our democracy depends on science.

It's being torn down, and people are getting hurt.

They'll be getting hurt.

Well, some people are getting hurt.

People who are losing their jobs are getting hurt.

Well, that's for sure.

So let's.

I have two more clips from the NPR, but before we do that, I have an interregnum clip.

Interregnum.

Yeah,

I just have a short 14-second clip of some of the Trump.

You talked these through, but we have here are some Trump

protest chance.

Oh, good, good, good.

Let me guess.

Is it hey, hey, ho-ho?

Trump's no good.

Elon's got to go?

Is that one of the chance?

It's close.

No, you'll hear him.

Donald Trump has got to go.

Hey, hey, ho-ho.

Hey, Trump, you liar.

He set your ass on fire.

No, Trump.

No, pay, pay, pay, no fascist USA.

President Trump took.

Yeah,

we had the handout with those.

Did we have the Trump, you liar your pants are on fire was that in there I don't remember it this may be uh something for new for this weekend

they uh they paid some PR firm a lot of money to come up with that um listen guys we really need to work on our chance Can you come up with a list for us?

Our chance our chance hey hey ho ho has got to go itself hey Donald Trump you're a liar.

You're setting your own house on fire.

Genius people.

I think it's his pants on fire in that one.

Okay.

Pants on fire.

Because, you know, pants on fire.

How old are they?

Liar, liar, pants on fire.

Seriously.

Yeah, that's exactly.

How old are they?

It turns out that most of the people in most of these protests were all in their 70s.

Yes.

There were some younger ones in New York, but I'll let you play your clips first.

Yeah, well, let's start with this.

There's a woman on TikTok and YouTube who goes out and does interviews with people.

And this is the TikTok clip, by the way.

And even though it was not, it was, I got it off Twitter.

And she wears a Musk was not elected.

And so she can goad people.

And she agrees with him.

Oh, yeah, he's crazy.

And she does these interviews.

And it's really pretty good stuff because she gets people to say, because they think she's an ally.

So they go off to Deep Bend.

Oh, one of these.

Oh, that's always funny.

That's always funny.

It's very funny because people get suckered so easily.

And she's, oh, yeah, you're right.

Yo, yeah, what else?

You you know

and so she found one guy who's completely off the rails to the criminal charge of rape he is a he is credibly alleged of having raped a 14 year old girl is that what you want for your president absolutely not right

wait is that is that

where did this come up

who knows

which one are you guys talking about i i'm sorry i interrupted you

i was talking about our alleged president, our fascist, Nazified, idiot, moronic.

The mango menace?

Break our NATO alliance, turn our allies against us, steal our money, throw 71 people, 71 million people off Medicaid that people depend on.

71 million people.

Is this what you want?

Do you want money taken from your grandma?

Do you want to not support battered women and abuse children?

Is that what you believe?

Stand up and say it, fascists.

Stand up and say it.

I'm standing up and saying what I believe.

You stand up and say what you believe.

And not platitudes and not idolatry.

Let's hear ideas.

You have no ideas.

All you have is hate, racism, stupidity, and greed.

A round of applause for that right there.

He has been waiting a while for that.

Yeah, that was great.

So, yo, hold on.

So, girl,

no, no, no.

You've got to stop.

You've got to stop.

Clip of the day.

I don't think so, man.

I appreciate it.

I do.

I think

that was a great clip.

That is a delusional dem, if I ever heard one.

That was great.

Yeah, that's for sure.

So, this girl, she also has these two bodyguards that are near her

that look like they're, in this case, they were at a Tesla thing, and they were behind her as though they were guarding the Tesla factory.

And they kept getting called out.

But they're always around these two guys.

And they're two guys just in case somebody gets, you know, to tax this woman because she's goading them into saying all kinds of crazy stuff.

And she goes from person to person with this Elon wasn't elected thing as though she's

an ally.

It's just very well done.

The thing that's disturbing is he sounds like he really believes that.

Oh, no, he does.

He was incredibly sincere.

His hair was disheveled.

He looked a little like he was probably around 60, and he looked like Bernie Sanders a little bit.

Oh, and he's just going nuts.

I mean, he was yelling and screaming.

71 million kicked off Medicaid.

It's factually just not true.

I don't understand where that is.

No, everything he said is factually not true.

It's beside the point.

Trump is a rapist or raping a 14-year-old.

Where did that come from?

Well, you should take it back to the pee-pee tape.

Where's the pee-pee tape?

Hey, who was it?

Who was the actor who was going to show us that again?

Oh, it was Roseanne's ex-husband, Tom, Tom Arnold.

I got the tape.

Yeah, yeah, he was going to reveal the tape.

I got the tape.

I got the tape.

Good memory on that one.

That's about all I got.

Protest USA.

This is the NPR rap, I believe.

Thousands of anti-Trump protesters took to the streets today in cities across the country, including Atlanta, Boston, Cincinnati, and New York.

Take a listen to the scene from the nation's capital.

NPR's Emily Fang was at the protest in Washington, D.C., and joins us now.

Good to have you with us, Emily.

Thanks for having me, Asma.

So, what did you hear about why people are protesting?

They're protesting what they say is executive overreach by President Trump and his ally, billionaire Elon Musk.

Ally.

Here's a sampling of signs among hundreds that I saw at the mall today in Washington.

There was one that said, quote, you can't spell felon without Elon.

Another that said, hands-off due process.

Hold on, hold on.

Call the agency.

That was good.

That's a good one.

I have to say, that's a good one.

There was one that said, quote, you can't spell felon without Elon.

Another that said, hands off due process.

And this pun, are you tariff-eyed?

So the top concerns among protesters I saw today, inflation brought on by trade tariffs, the role that Musk has in the current government because he is not an elected official, and also many kinds of worries about the expansion of executive power.

You mentioned the expansion of executive power.

Did you hear specific concerns about that from protesters?

Absolutely.

Here's Juliana, a federal employee who did not want her full name aired because she's afraid of being fired herself.

She was holding a sign that said, quote, I need to be able to tell my children I did not stay silent.

This time around,

I have concerns that I wonder if we will have an election to be pranked.

She specifically fears that Trump may seek a third presidential term, even though this is unconstitutional.

This is expressly prohibited by the 22nd Amendment.

And this, so this is the brilliance.

Trump, in this regard, is just so smart.

He knows, He just throws his stuff out there, and that's all they can talk about, all they can report on.

And it makes you sound idiotic.

And I don't think they realize it.

I mean, that is trolling

to the nth degree, obviously.

Yeah, he's a great troll.

Yeah.

It's beautiful.

And the grid's going to go down.

The grid.

Here we go.

Another protester I talked to, Austin Shriver, drove in from Virginia nearby, and he and a friend were holding signs saying no kings.

And he said he was angry about executive orders cracking down on immigration.

If the president can decide that he's going to ignore the courts when they tell him he's doing the wrong thing, then the courts have no power to check the executive.

He's referring to this ongoing legal case where a federal judge says there was a possibility the Trump administration ignored his court order to stop deportation flights to El Salvador last month.

You know, Emily, it seems like the left has been struggling with how to oppose oppose Trump these last couple of months.

We haven't seen the large scale.

It seems the left has been struggling.

That's all you needed to say.

Boom, stop, full stop.

It seems like the left has been struggling with how to oppose Trump these last couple of months.

We haven't seen the large-scale protests that we saw during Trump's first term.

Today seems to have been kind of the first public opposition to President Trump's second term.

I'm curious what you were tracking outside of Washington.

These protests are happening all over the country.

There are about 1,200 of what organizers are calling hands-off mass action protests, you know, sizable demonstrations at state capitals and parks, city halls, etc., nationwide.

Have you heard anything from President Trump about the protest today?

He's out playing golf at his club in Florida today and has not given any interviews.

But the White House did say in a statement that his position is, quote, clear, he will always protect social security, Medicare, and Medicaid for eligible beneficiaries, though the statement did not address the protest directly.

Well, why didn't they say, why didn't they say, well, and he lied because clearly he has taken, kicked 71 million people off of Medicaid.

Why didn't they say that?

Yeah.

We just didn't.

We just heard the guy say that.

Bless you.

I have a report for.

Well, wait, before I finish, I got one last one.

No, sorry.

Because this was, even though it was actually 1,300 protests that were organized by Soros' boys, there was a world protest, too.

I don't know how they pulled this off, but this is the

world protest.

NPR reported on that, too.

Anti-Trump demonstrations took place around the country today and across Trump.

What?

Anti-Trump demonstrations in Paris.

I mean, come on.

Yes.

Anti-Trump demonstrations took place around the country today and across Europe.

Esme Nicholson reports the protests follow Trump's new tariffs on nearly all the goods the U.S.

imports because many worry it may threaten prosperity and peace.

American citizens living in Berlin gathered in front of a Tesla showroom on Saturday to demand an end to the chaos back home.

In a message meant for Trump adviser Elon Musk, one protester was holding a banner reading, Shut up, Elon, no one voted for you.

Similar sentiment was clear at protests in Frankfurt, Paris, and Lisbon, where signs read, silence is complicity.

In London, hundreds of Americans gathered in Trafalgar Square and chanted, hands off Canada, hands off Greenland.

It was Americans protesting in Trafalgar Square.

So it was expats who don't even live in America.

And chanted hands off Greenland.

What are you worried about?

On the worldwide protests.

From Chicago to Washington, D.C.

and across the U.S., people gathered Saturday to speak out against the Trump administration.

They protested President Trump's key initiatives, including large-scale cuts to federal agencies and the new slew of tariffs that have tanked global stock markets.

Their tariffs are not only imbecilic, they're illegal, they're unconstitutional, and we're going to turn this around.

That's Raskin at one of these things.

They're illegal, they're unconstitutional.

Protesters also took to the streets in Paris, London, and other European capitals.

The policies Trump is following are a threat to the world.

The world as we have come to know it and enjoy it.

Yeah, with cheap Chinese junk.

As very privileged Westerners, today we really want to send a message of solidarity to our friends and families back in America.

President Trump is spending the weekend at his Mar-a-Lago estate here in South Florida.

Some new tariffs on goods imported to the U.S.

went into effect Saturday, triggering customs agents' collections at ports of entry.

In a post on Truth Social, the president asked Americans to hang tough, calling the tariffs an economic revolution.

But many consumers say they are worried.

A YouGov poll finds that just over two-thirds of Americans think the price of goods they typically buy will rise.

Here's the New York protest, and here's where the union lady shows up.

Tell me what democracy looks like!

Protesters gathered in and around Bryant Park, shoes sloshing through puddles on a rainy Saturday afternoon.

This hands-off protest is one of several happening throughout New York City and in

This is not about efficiency.

This is about control and power and the destruction of the United States.

People showed up to stand up against some of the Trump administration's latest moves, like the implementation of tariffs, immigration operations, and reducing the size of some federal agencies while eliminating others altogether.

Eileen Chen is a federal worker with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

A federal judge recently blocked blocked the Trump administration's attempt to dismantle it.

They tried to shut down our entire agency and

many, many, many of my coworkers were fired.

But because we've all come together

through our really strong union, we were actually able to get every single person reinstated.

Others say they're concerned about Elon Musk, who has pushed policies to reduce federal spending in his role as the head of the Department of Government Efficiency.

The administration has said Doge's purpose is to rid the government of waste, fraud, and abuse.

Musk has spoken about his role in trying to dismantle USAID, which offers humanitarian aid to countries.

This is no longer a democracy.

This is a total abuse of our freedom.

That's number one.

I could go on for a long time, but cutting USAID,

for me, has been the most disgusting thing that this government has done.

This is so disgusting.

So I went to Hands Off 2025, and

that is a website, they say it right there, of indivisibleindivisible.org.

And you go to join the movement,

the donate part.

Indivisible is a movement of thousands of local groups and millions of activists committed to defeating mega extremism.

advancing progressive policies and building a democracy that works for us all.

Our movement is powered by people.

We do not accept funding from corporations, political parties, or their leaders.

No,

you're taking money for political parties because it says right there, Acts Blue.

And Acts Blue

is the merchant of record for Act Blue Civics Inc.

Come on, which is a 501c4, which they call a social welfare organization, but I think that means you can have, you can lobby.

So

it's politics as usual.

Yeah, and they create a lot of front groups, those guys.

But the left has always done that.

That's the old

communist idea.

You just have a long tail.

A long tail of front groups.

You know, you played

one of your clips talked about the Department of Education.

I think you received this clip as well, but I thought it would be interesting enough to play it.

One of our producers sent it.

This is 1980.

Ronald Reagan talking about the Department of Education, that he wanted to get rid of it.

But tell me what you find the most interesting in this from 1980.

I propose and would have already started, if your hypothesis is correct, a planned and orderly transfer back to the states and local communities of functions the federal government has usurped and which it has proven it is incapable of operating.

And one of the first of those would be welfare.

One of the second would be in the field of education.

I would like to dissolve the $10 billion National Department of Education created by President Carter and turn schools back to the local school districts where we built the greatest public school system the world has ever seen.

I think I can make a case that the decline in the quality of public education began when federal aid became federal interference.

Now, what was remarkable about this?

Well, I like the phrase federal aid became federal interference.

It was a $10 billion.

Oh, yeah, it was $10 billion, and now it's like $250 or whatever.

$10 billion.

Yes.

I know.

I mean,

there's inflation, but inflation should be like 100 billion.

Inflation would be,

but from that was from about 85 or that 84 when he gave that speech.

And inflation is not a 10x from there.

It would be 10x from 1970s.

So it'll probably be more like 80

or 70 billion, but instead it's way up there.

Yeah, it's a scam.

And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.

Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the cheap junk from China.

Say hello to my friend on the other end, the

birthday boy, ladies and gentlemen.

Mr.

John C.

DeVore!

Yeah, well, in the morning to you, it's Adam Crigger, Milan, ship, sea boots on the ground, Finny Air, subsidizing the water, and Dames and Nice out there.

Hello, Dames Nice.

Hello, trolls.

How do you do?

Let's get a little temperature check there.

All right.

2,405.

A little above average.

Around average.

It's kind of good.

I'd say it was average.

It's a lot of trolls.

I mean, what other show has a live troll room that really, I mean, we don't have video, but we got trolls, and they're in the troll room, and you can say whatever you want.

And people do.

Yeah, and then you can kick them off.

Like the ogre you are.

I have not done that in a while.

Should I just pick somebody and just kick them off?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Who should I kick off?

Let me see if someone says something.

Come on, somebody.

Say something to make make him mad and say something about his hair.

That'll do it.

Nobody.

No one's saying anything.

They don't, they're so lame.

Kick me.

It's no good.

Lame, lame.

Should have been much faster on the draw.

Those trolls are in the troll room at trollroom.io.

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But we also like to thank people who do stuff for us.

For instance, making art.

And we want to thank Scaramanga, Francisco Scaramanga, who made, I mean, I got comments on this one.

The episode was last on Thursday, 1752.

We titled it Pell Mel, trying to bring that phrase back.

And this was a very disturbing piece of art.

People actually got disturbed by it.

I think Darren O'Neal said, I don't, I can't even recommend listening to this episode because this art is so disturbing.

This was the gay dog, or at least the dog with the rainbow shirt.

And the more I look at it, the more I agree.

It was, it was, it borders on gruesome.

I don't get the gruesome part.

It's creepy.

It's creepy.

There's no doubt about that because the legs of the dog are the front legs are too long and the dog's standing there with

a rainbow shirt.

And then there was the quarter, which is the kicker that I thought made it work.

Of course.

Yes.

That was the quarter.

Very subtle.

Very subtle.

I don't know if anyone got that, but we thought it was you thought.

And I had comments

at the big meetup in Oakland about this art.

Same thing.

They thought it was

Steve, in fact.

Crazy Steve, the guy who does all these articles.

Crazy Steve?

Who's Crazy Steve?

Crazy Steve's the guy who organizes all these meetups.

Oh, you crazy Steve.

Is that the guy who says he had my hair?

Is that Crazy Steve?

No, no, that guy wasn't even at this meetup.

Oh, okay.

No, Crazy Steve's the organizer.

You know who it is.

I didn't.

Crazy Steve.

He wants to go down and organize one down in Fredericksburg.

He says, I'm going to do one in Fredericksburg.

I'll show up.

Ballad.

And

he says, I can understand why Adam didn't show up to the other one.

We're a two-hour drive.

He's not going to be able to do that.

I'm not going to do that.

No.

And I said, yeah, if you could put one in Fredericksburg, just check to make sure is it not in Europe.

Yes, please.

Yeah.

Let me know.

I mean, organize.

Yeah, you can do it.

He'll be glad.

Of course, I'll go.

Of course.

Go ahead, Crazy Steve.

So Steve was.

querying me about the artwork thinking it was what is this what what is this well do you think that because you kind of have a rule that you know, creepy or gruesome artwork, if it's bad for the show?

And I think that this.

Yeah, because of association.

I don't like the association.

So you see no agenda, and then some gruesome picture, and then you say, ooh, no agenda.

But I literally had people saying they didn't even want to listen to the episode because of the art.

That reflects poorly on the show.

Well, that was, we made an error then.

But I don't see it.

I think it's a funny piece.

You got a stupid dog wearing an outfit,

and he's standing there with his tongue hanging out, and there's a quarter, and the whole thing was dynamite.

It was a great piece.

Yes, I thought it was good.

I liked it.

I liked it.

And the quarter is referenced to, you know, the dog drops.

Somebody's got to pick up the quarters like picking up soap.

You know, it's a running gay joke.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Prison gay joke, actually.

Prison gay joke.

Thank you, Scaramanga.

We were also just pleased that Scaramanga did something that wasn't boobs.

That was kind of interesting.

So at the meetup, we had a

Sir Montuck, the guy who is a sticker.

I always call him the sticker guy.

He always brings a set of new stickers

to the meetups.

And all the stickers, these little no-agenda stickers, he did a giant poster.

Oh.

About, I think,

I'd say three feet by two foot poster of very small versions of every artwork says show one or something.

Oh, that's cool.

The whole thing is just a giant, you know.

He should talk to noagendashop.com.

Get those guys to sell a poster.

He should do one thing, and he should send you a copy because he framed mine because he figured if it's rolled-up art, it would just end up in my attic, which is where

he

next to many other items of interest.

Yes, yeah, feebly.

So he framed it, and you could,

he can send you a rolled up one because I'm pretty sure that you would frame it.

Frame it.

Put it on the

Hall of Fame.

Yes, I have a wall in the garage.

I have in my entire life.

The garage, you've taken pictures.

I think it was in the garage.

Yes, no, I moved the Wall of Fame to the garage.

We have an oversized garage because the guy who we bought the house from, he's a retailer and he had like ATM machines and all kinds of

just all kinds of gear.

No, I use the garage as storage.

No, well, we have very, no, our garage is very clean.

Have you met my wife?

It's very clean, very organized.

I met you.

Same thing.

It's not storage, but I did make one wall just like, you know, like the other.

No, I'm talking about the guy, original guy had putting ATM machines.

So he was using it as storage.

Oh, yes, he was.

Yeah, storage.

And he had a train, you know, like a golf cart in there and other gear.

So it's really a three and a half car garage, I guess.

So we don't have three cars.

It is ready for the flying car, though.

When that comes, I can park it in my garage.

Anyway,

yes, I will hang that on my, I will frame it and hang it on my wall.

I'd love to.

Other pieces of art.

You know, the Suscaramanga also did the Pod Father Awards.

You probably saw that.

He's been trying, he's been doing videos of you and me.

I look disturbingly.

So you look like you,

but I look a bit like,

who's the actor?

Ed Bagley Jr.

I don't know if

he had a good look.

No, and thank you very much to Daniel J.

Lewis.

Daniel J.

Lewis, a lot of people like this idea.

I'm just going to say it again.

I knew that you were going to work on it, and I know it was, you only had a couple days, but I'm sure you'll be working very hard on the Pod Father Awards this week.

He was, I can't believe we didn't do this.

He got the domain name for us, podfatherawards.com.

Hello.

How stupid am I that I didn't register that right away?

Very funny.

Yeah, the class.

Phoebe, she's mad.

I don't know what she's doing.

She's mad that you didn't get the thing you're humiliating

on the air.

No, she's mad.

She's mad about the microphone company.

That's what she's mad about.

I can tell.

It's all right, Phoebe.

You'll get your microphone company.

Well, you know, it's a tariff situation.

We had to see how that shook out.

Well, true.

The tariffs could be a big problem.

I'm glad we didn't start that company.

We'd be broke.

Maybe not.

Now it's time.

Was there anything else that we like?

There's a lot of toilet art

which yeah, the talking toilets.

There was

really, you know, that little dog stood out, I thought.

There were a couple other gay dogs.

A lot of gay dogs.

A lot of gay dogs.

There's a couple of dogs walking down the aisle.

Dropco's male dog wedding.

Yeah,

a lot of gay dogs.

Stop with the gay dogs.

The gummy bear Jesus.

We both thought that was a little sacrilegious in a way.

Yeah, it was a little.

Well, the one that,

yes, it was a little over the top.

But you know what?

A lot of these make it into.

Are those the Geiger counters you have?

The one the digital 2112 man made?

You see that one?

The Geiger counter?

Is that the kind of Geiger next to the boomer humor fart cushion?

No, not at at all.

It's nothing like that.

That kind of looks cool.

If they were like that, I'd get one.

That looks pretty cool.

No, this no, the ones that I have are better looking.

Yeah.

So anyway, thank you all very much.

A lot of these pieces show up in our chapter art, which you can enjoy on the modern podcast apps.

And if you use it in your car, it'll even change while you're driving.

Yeah, so you can get into a wreck.

No, you're not going to get into a wreck.

It's entertainment for the entire population of your vehicle.

NoAgenda, artgenerator.com.

Everybody can participate.

It's what makes it so good.

Anybody can

jump in, and it's good to see the artists working hard.

Some AI, some

use AI in the appropriate manner, according to Buzz Kill Jr., which is as a tool.

Because you really need talent to be able to make something no matter what tools you use.

You know, Buzz Kill Jr.

is at the event.

Yes.

And he got into a discussion about AI because he's doing work for banks.

And

they just brought up this topic of, I was, my eyes are glazing over, but they brought up the topic of trying to do some of the same stuff in Europe.

And he goes on and on and on and on and on about how, well, you got to register this.

And if you do this, you got to do that.

And then

you got to be

licensed and do for anything.

So all the hoops you've got to jump through to do the same work in Europe,

which is just to look for bank fraud.

He says it's not worth even doing any work in Europe.

He says it's just not worth the trouble because it's just too many regulations.

What is it?

And it brought to mind, yeah, and they're going to compete with us in social networking or anything else.

They can't do it.

They can't get anything done.

No, they can't.

The Europeans are screwed up.

Well,

they're trying to be protectionists, and it's going to make them, it's going to retard their economy, if I can put it that way.

It will retard their economy.

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Or imdb.com, which is almost as good as being a member of the guild.

$300 and above, we will read your note and you get the title of executive producer.

And we'll start it off with Ronald Lafferty,

who comes in with $1,000,

top executive producer, and a handwritten note.

Hello, John and Adam.

I'm just sending you some treasure to help you keep the sad puppy away.

Love the show.

One of your producers, Sir Ronald Lafferty.

And he did not ask for a title upgrade, but he is entitled to it.

But until then, thank you very much, Ronald.

We really appreciate that.

That is a nice birthday present for John.

David Fugazotto, our buddy in Gladstone, Missouri.

He says, a great Commodore Switcher Roo, please.

This is for the indomitable, indomitable Dame Melody Fugazotto.

Ah, Melody.

U.S.

Navy retired, who of all people should be a Commodore.

That's right.

Most definitely.

The Admiral of my heart.

Happy birthday, John, and thank you for your courage.

Beautiful.

Good to hear from you guys.

Then we have Cheeky and Anonymous Seeking the Middle.

Hmm, an interesting name from Bedford, Massachusetts, 500.

Second part of donation from sale of our home in the corrupt communist Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

I think we gave him some karma for that.

We sadly felt compelled to cash out of our overpriced, under-socialized, if you did not have TDS, only a small circle of patriots to hang hang with, family home for a once-beloved, thought-to-be-adopted home of Bedford, Massachusetts.

We can't entirely give up on the northeast, but I still work out of Boston, and we play, teach kids skiing, and love winter in the best mountain town in the east in Vermont.

Communist, but only dopey there, not corrupt.

We think we decided on our red area safe house in a relatively affordable area in the Black Hills of South Dakota.

So, this $500 is for all the sanity, laughs, and perspective you have added to our lives since I discovered you during COVID.

Courtesy of Scott Adams, when you got along.

Did we have a feud with Scott Adams?

No.

I don't think so.

I think he got called out on the show some time ago for

his vax stance.

Suddenly changed.

He's a hypnotist.

He could turn us around in a second.

I still like Scott.

He adds to the mental toolbox along with you guys and a few others.

You guys, though, rock.

Please provide peace and love and get well karma and an appropriate jingle if you have one for everybody's family, friends, and colleagues afflicted with TDS and all trophy trans children being raised by Munchausen syndrome by proxy.

My goodness.

Yeah, you know, somebody brought that up in a,

I saw this in some chat or something, or maybe it was online.

I never recorded it.

But yeah, they think that this, it's a version of

Munchausen by proxy,

which is kind of a weird psychological disorder where you constantly hurt yourself to get attention, and now it's been transferred to turning your kids trans to get attention to yourself.

Regards, cheeky and anonymous, seeking the middle, formerly of Bedford.

Well, yes, I have something appropriate for you.

Oh, there's no winning.

We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.

Now, everyone, hug and share a secret.

You've got karma.

A classic.

Yes.

Jordan Johnson in

shirts.

Shirts?

Shirts.

Shirts.

Yeah, shirts.

Shirts.

Texas.

Hey, shirts, man.

Shirts.

In the morning, longtime listener, first-time donor, please give this credit to my, this is a switcheroo to my smoking hot wife,

Brittany, Britt Nee Johnston.

Britt Nee is turning 40 years old.

April 5th, it's my birthday.

Would you please

put her on the birthday list she's on?

Yep.

I've had the hots for my wife since the moment I laid eyes on her.

Oh, nice.

She's bright and shining.

She's a bright and shining diamond.

A light in the darkness and a terrific cook.

Win.

She's given us five beautiful human resources.

I always say when they're,

I just, I won't bring it up.

What?

She had.

You know, women who like to cook are.

What?

you know, most women kill their husbands by poisoning them.

I always tell that when it says, you like to cook?

I say, yeah, I do all the cooking in the house.

And that's the reason I do it.

It just comes to mind.

I'm sorry.

I think it's true.

I'm with you.

Women who like to cook are dangerous.

They're dangerous because they can drop into, you know, something.

Yeah, this tip from your No Agenda show.

It's tip of the moment.

Tip of the moment.

Life-saving tip she has given us five beautiful human resources jack margot phoebe owen and carti carly

oh i'm sorry it looks like a tea on here and she uh homeschools them oh well this woman is very busy yeah and she cooks yeah be careful after homeschooling five kids she might kill you yeah

i give thanks to god every day that she is mine her faith is what changed our family for generations to come.

Happy birthday, Brittany.

I love you with all my heart, and happy birthday to you, too, John.

Brittany adores you.

She's a good woman.

And she probably won't poison you.

For jiggles, it says.

I'm pretty sure I read that right.

It says jiggles.

Yes, it says jiggles.

Could we please hear a little I've got ants?

Thank you both for the best podcast in the universe.

Four more years, says Jordan.

All right, Jordan.

Thank you very much.

We will play a little bit of I Got Ants for for Brittany.

I got ants.

I got ants.

I'll give you a karma, too, while we're at it.

You've got karma.

Add a little extra spice there for you.

Sir Lawrence is in Oakland, California, and he comes in with 333.33.

He's in blue, so that means something's up with him.

And he has a note here, which I shall grab a hold of.

I believe he was at the meetup.

Oh, okay.

Well, here we go.

Nice.

This is from, it looks like it was a typewriter, typewritten.

He says 333.33 plus baronet.

Oh, baronet.

There we go.

ITM gentlemen upgraded.

When you read this letter, John's birthday extravaganza will be in the rear view mirror.

It's in the rear view.

I have no doubts

it will have been off the proverbial his all and added some great memories to John's already large volume of 90 snippets, 90, sorry, 73 years worth.

That was an honest mistake.

Can I get a jobs, karma?

And I love my truck and I love what I do.

I just started with a new company that got awarded the elevator contract in my building and asked me to change shirts.

As they still provide a vehicle stipend, I got myself a 2024 Ford F-150 STX with a super cab, extended cab.

It's more money for less work, and I got a truck that hauls balls with a turbo V6.

Lastly, this donation makes me a baronet.

Does this mean that I am to be called Sir Lawrence Baronet of Dystopia?

Or could I be Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, Baronet of Maxwell Park?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Well, you're in charge of that, John.

I think he can do whatever he wants.

Give him the first title.

Okay, it will be Sir Lawrence Baronet of Dystopia.

Very good.

Adios, Mofos, and 73s, John.

Get it!

Oh, he is Kilo Oscar 6, Echo, Juliet, Echo.

73s, Kilo 5, Alpha, Charlie, Charlie.

Give me the truck.

I'll do the job.

I love my truck, and I love what I do.

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

Mika, Kamla.

I think Sir Lawrence was part of the team of people that were talking about how they avoided getting vaxed.

Oh,

one of those guys, huh?

It was like there's a bunch of them that

they all have their different stories.

Of course, everyone has a story.

It was horrible, horrible.

Steve Brock in Springfield, Missouri, 2808.

Stephen Wright donation.

Steve Brock.

Wow.

Springfield, Missouri.

Nice, nice.

Stephen Brock of Springfield, Missouri.

Please call out Bob from Springfield for still being a douchebag.

Douchebag.

And you'd like to hear China is asshole and French French bulldog karma.

Thanks.

China is asshole.

You've got

karma.

Now, check this out.

Anonymous from Charlotte, North Carolina, 263.57, associate executive producer.

And he says, or she, please accept this Stephen Wright donation.

Well, this is amazing.

That's the old

random number theory.

It happens all the time, and it's like, can't be avoided.

Thank you both for what you do.

Anonymous, an elder Jen Xer who appreciates boomer humor.

Right.

We're scoring big on this.

I love it.

Yep.

Well, it was like one of the memes I had in the newsletter

was like

got a lot of attention.

Which one was that?

It's the one that says there she was walking down the street, and then there's pictures, and you have to kind of figure out what these what it means, what it does it mean.

And

boomer, some people got it, and some people didn't.

Boomer humor, boomer humor, baby.

Casia

Grizzleka,

Gresleca, Gresleyk, Gresleck, Greslika,

and Cape Coral, Florida, 22222.

Hi, guys.

It's exactly the way it's written.

This donation is for our son, Adam.

18 years ago, at exactly 9:03 p.m.

in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, this amazing human entered the world.

Adam came into our lives and made our hearts expand in ways we never imagined.

He's a living, breathing piece of our souls that we've gently sent out into the world, praying he'd find joy, spread kindness, and leave the world a better place than he found it.

That's a

lot of stuff there for him to do.

You're putting a lot of responsibility on the kid's shoulders.

Stop it.

Stop it.

These are life's greatest creation.

Not a project, but a masterpiece.

Shaped by love, lessons, laughter, and fears.

Tears.

Love.

Tears.

No, fears.

What did I say?

Fears?

Fears.

They scared the kid.

I love you, Adam.

Pronunciation.

No, A-dash.

No, it's A-dash.

That's his nickname.

Oh, A-dash.

Look at you, A-dash.

It's never been Adam.

It's always been A-dash.

Yes.

I love you, A-dash.

Oh, it's pronunciation.

It's Polish.

But that's the Polish.

It's A-dash.

Adash.

Adash.

How about that?

Adash.

Yeah.

Does the Polish Bible say Adam and Adash and Eva?

Inquiring minds like to know.

Polish Bible's in Latin.

Mom and Dad, thanks, guys.

Kasia

pronounced Kash Kasha.

Kasha.

Kasha.

And then Krezhleka.

I got that part right.

I didn't get the Kasha right.

No, I got that wrong.

P.S.

Southwest Florida really needs a meetup already.

It's been too long.

We have Floridians that do these things.

Yeah, but one of them abruptly quit.

Oh, no.

Yeah, this happened a while ago.

Oh,

that's our girl, right?

Yeah.

And I've even reached out to her, and she's like, can't talk about it.

Thanks for reaching out.

Oh, I wonder what happened.

She can't talk about it.

I think it's

something with her work.

Like the agency wasn't happy with it or something.

Just guessing.

Oh, that could be.

Just guessing.

Government interference with the no agenda show.

James von Weinsberg,

Sun City, Florida, Sun City, Florida, 222.22.

Row of Ducks Switcheroo.

In the morning, gentlemen.

Happy bladed birthday to John.

I know this note is long, but someone's getting knighted today.

Someone's getting knighted and someone's getting cornhold.

Accounting below.

Why, this third row of ducks donate, excuse me, with this third row of ducks donation, if you couldn't kick in the penny.

Oh, hold on a second.

You need a penny, ma'am.

I'll kick in a penny.

Where's the penny?

There we go.

Please.

Yes, that put us over the top.

I'd like to switch a rue my tithings and bequeath this knighthood to my dad, Marty.

All right, switch.

Okay, so

does it stay James, but Marty gets the knighthood?

What do you think here, John?

Yeah, Marty gets the knighthood.

Of course he does.

But James stays the associate executive producer.

Yeah, yes, I would think that would be correct.

Okay.

Okay, so I'd like to switch through my tithings and bequeath this knighthood to my dad Marty and request that his knight name be henceforth known as Sir Marty von Weinsberg of the Coachella Valley.

He's always been my hero since I understood what that meant, and he was recently dealt a potential cancer diagnosis.

I'm so proud proud of his bravery in the face of this and request an F-cancer jiggle.

This is another random number theory, a jiggle.

It's a jingle, people.

And a goat karma to counter this.

Okay.

I love you, Dad.

I'm very blessed to be your son.

And now you got this.

I know you got it.

Let me do that.

I'm butchering this.

I love you, Dad.

I'm very blessed to be your son.

And I know you got this.

There we go.

He'd appreciate some Belgian fritkote and a cold, unsweetened mountain dew, which of course doesn't exist, for the roundtable.

For the time being, I'm still a slave to the system, so if I could request an F-35 karma to include a what-in-the-world tagline to help me acquire the property and DOD-affiliated employment, oh man,

I need to build my final home and Waco-esque compound in North Carolina.

I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thank you for your courage.

And four more years.

Okay, so we need to.

He needed the jobs, karma.

And was there something?

What else was there?

Was there something else?

Did I forget something here?

Goat?

You want a goat?

Yeah.

Oh, okay, so I can do that.

I'll throw in.

You want F-cancer?

F-cancer.

Okay, so I'll throw in the goat with the.

Okay, I can do it.

I can do this.

I can do this.

You've got

karma.

Oh, it didn't do the what in the world is this?

And that wasn't the goat.

That was that guy.

No, I did the goat.

I did the goat.

That was goat?

I thought that was that screaming guy.

It sounds like.

Here, listen.

I said, what in the world is this?

That's the guy, and that's the goat.

Jeez.

I said, what in the world is this?

Sorry, I asked.

And I prayed for Marty.

You guys.

Sean Homan in Noblesville, Indiana, 21911.

Stealth Arms is foam finger number one.

Customize your platypus today.

Oh, here we go.

It's back to stealtharms.net.

God's blessings and peace to all, including the spooks.

Hey, well, spooks like the platypus, I guess.

And spooks like to listen.

Of course they do.

Oops, sorry, didn't mean to do that.

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Sorry, editing, editing all of that.

Yeah, don't make me start editing this because that's

tighten it up, people.

Hey, Matthew,

isn't that great?

Where we get to bitch at the advertisers?

It's an upside-down world.

That's exactly the way it's supposed to be.

That's the world made right.

The world is good.

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Joel Sides is in Medina, Texas, 21060.

Happy birthday, John.

If only the dinosaurs could have lived this long, they might still be around.

Don't feel left out.

The rest of us are not far behind.

Thank you, Joel.

It's for your birthday.

Gen X Count Stephen of Windsor or Winder.

Stephen of Winder.

Winder.

Winder in Oswego, Illinois.

Stephen Wright donation.

Wow, third one.

How about that?

This is, that's insane.

And you know, we sometimes spend hours thinking about what kind of promotion can we do?

And then an offhand,

obscure content a comment about stephen wright scores it's unbelievable yeah it's it was pretty and it was just a screwball tossaway it was a tossaway it's it's remarkable it's truly remarkable i tell you stephen wright donations solidly gen x count stephen of winder like a clop clock and the great smoky mountains boom

that's easy eli the coffee guy uh bensonville Illinois, 204.07.

Happy birthday, John.

I can't wait to hear your next episode of DH Unplugged.

This Monday will either be a bloodbath in the markets or a fantastic rebound.

Either way, it will make for a good show on Tuesday.

That's right, DH Unplugged live with John C.

Dvorak and Andrew Horowitz.

Monday,

we listened to Andrew go off.

It is somewhat entertaining, I have to admit.

It's pretty funny.

I've gotten some fantastic stock tips listening to you and Horowitz.

Thank you.

My investment advice to everyone is go long

on quality coffee at a great price.

Visit gigawattcoffee roasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order.

Stay caffeinated.

Eli the coffee guy.

Now, that's ad copy right there.

That's

very good.

Very coffee.

That's copy.

I like that.

And he does his, he always tells his tale.

He has a story.

He

prefaces everything.

And then he's a good person.

He could work for Young and Rubicon.

I'm telling you.

He's great.

Which reminds me, but before we get to the last one here, so I got a note.

I don't have the note in front of me, but it's from one of our producers.

He goes,

he's in advertising.

You may have gotten this.

He's in advertising.

He's bemoaning the fact that we're bitching and moaning about pharmaceutical ads.

We went through this whole conversation not two shows ago.

Blam On the show.

Well, we've talked about this, but did we talk about this guy?

Yes.

Do it again.

Well, I'm just saying he was bitching and moaning, and he said that we should back off.

And I don't understand how he could be this way.

Yeah, we had this whole conversation.

You know, did we?

This is how it begins.

Yeah, well, this is the second thing to go.

What's the first?

Short-term memory is the second thing to go.

What's the first?

I don't remember.

I walked right into it.

I can't believe that.

You're still as sharp as attack.

Linda Lou Patkins, sharp as a tech.

She's a Lakewood, Colorado, 200 bucks.

Again, happy birthday, John.

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Let's vote for jobs.

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Yes, thank you, executive and associate executive producers.

Not only are you helping the show, you're entertaining as well.

I always say the best stuff happens during the donation segment.

It's only losers who skip it and they miss all the fun.

But that's all right.

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Become an executive producer, associate executive producer, become a knight, a commodore, whatever you want.

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Go to noagendadonations.com.

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And thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers for this episode.

Our formula is this:

we go out, we hit people in the mouth.

Hot pockets.

Shut up, sleep.

Hey, let's talk about the plague of smartphones.

Okay, who did a report on this?

Because I agree.

It is a plague.

It is a plague on smartphone.

Yeah, it's got some information in here you'd like.

Yeah, probably.

Or not.

I believe this was on NPR, but let's listen.

This is a smartphone.

This is four clips

discussing smartphones with an expert from some podunk university who is an expert on

how it screws us up.

Many of us are addicted to the little computer that fits inside our pocket.

The average American spends up to five hours a day on their smartphone, according to research, but sending texts, surfing the internet, or endlessly doom scrolling through social media releases hormones that literally stress our bodies and our minds.

We've talked about how important it is to restrict screen time for kids, but what about for you, for adults?

And what can you do if you want to be less tied to your phone?

Larry Rosen is a professor emeritus at California State University, Dominguez Hills.

Oh, we can stop the whole sequence of clips right now.

The answer is be like John.

Put your phone in the drawer.

Done.

Larry Rosen is a professor

emeritus at at California State University, Dominguez Hills, where he studies the psychological impacts of technology on our lives.

His latest book is The Distracted Mind: Ancient Brains in a High-Tech World.

Larry Rosen, thanks so much for talking with us.

Thanks for having me.

I start with that title of your book.

Our minds are ancient.

They've gotten to this point after thousands and thousands of years of evolution.

And I got my first smartphone in 2007.

Why is that important?

Worth pointing out?

Well, part of it is our our brains can handle a certain amount of information, and we're pretty good at it, and we've had these qualities since the cavemen.

One of the problems is the smartphone, in particular, offers you so much from just your pocket that it's very distracting and it doesn't give you time to process information that you really need to process.

I rarely send Joe Rogan a guest suggestion.

This sounds like the guy he should talk to.

I already know I'm going to like this guy.

I found it interesting that the average person with a smartphone spends five and a half hours a day.

Oh, that's average.

Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely.

Now, some of it, it's screen time.

It's screen time, but it's not all folly.

Some of it is sending.

Oh, yeah, he's checking your email because you're so important.

Sending important text messages to the group.

The grid's going down.

JFK Jr.'s alive.

He's going to be VP.

Yes.

Onward.

When I look at the stats on my phone, I've used it.

It says an average this week of five hours and 23 minutes a day, which, according to the research, looks like I'm pretty average, right?

So

what does the science say about what that's doing to my body and to my mind or to anyone who spends that much time on a phone?

So we started talking about addiction, and I want to throw in another term, which is obsession.

Obsession is an anxiety-based system.

So in your brain and body, you have chemicals all over the place.

And

one of the areas that you have chemicals is called the adrenal gland.

And anytime that you get stressed at all, that's because the adrenal gland has dumped some chemicals into your brain.

And the one that everybody knows is called cortisol.

So, what happens to people, and this, you're right, this is not just kids, this is everybody.

You do a task on your phone.

You

message somebody, you go on social media,

whatever it is you do, whatever your poison is, and then you're done.

And you come back and do something else.

But while you're doing that something else, the cortisol is dripping in there.

It's indicating that you're anxious.

So wait a minute.

Let me just jump in here and ask you this, because what I'm hearing you say is that using our phones releases a hormone, cortisol.

It literally stresses us out.

So why do we use it?

Yeah, baby.

It's good stuff.

So now as I'm listening to this, I realize that when I first went to the idea of putting the phone in a drawer,

which actually began by accident

because of T-Mobile screwing up my order for a renewal,

and I got so irked about it, I decided to go with a different direction.

I stopped using them altogether.

And I put the phone in the middle.

Thanks, T-Mobile.

Another one.

And so I ended up putting the phone in the drawer for a while.

And then after, it took me, it was maybe two or three weeks that I realized that after having the phone in the drawer was actually great.

Beneficial.

And so I stretched it out to, went for one year.

That's when I talked to

the tellers at the bank about this, and they all, oh, they all thought it was great that I could do that.

Now it's gone for two years.

I pretty much keep the phone in the drawer.

I have pulled it out on occasion for one thing or another, like to get a Uber

car, for example.

I'll use it for that.

But it goes back in the drawer.

I didn't have it at the meetup yesterday.

But you are not, you text, but you text from the computer, right?

I text from the computer using Google Voice.

And do you feel that you're behind the computer a lot for the texting?

I mean,

no, most of the time I don't have it open.

I usually only go to that text page once or twice a week just before the show.

Text me.

Newsletter.

Text you or to text Mimi.

Mimi's always saying, you got to go look at your text.

I said, what?

I said, it's on Gmail.

I said,

or not Gmail, but the Google Voice.

Google Voice.

And okay, so I open it up and there's a bunch of messages there, but I'm not like tagging it ever.

Well, you also don't have a lot of people who want to text you.

I mean, that's the same thing.

Well, you know what?

You know why?

You have no friends.

If you're not online, you're not hanging out.

You're not on the phone, you're not in the group, you're not contributing to these chats.

They stop texting you because they know you're not there.

You've got the phone in a drawer.

Yeah, but don't you feel left out of the group?

No, I don't.

That's the great thing about it.

I don't feel that way at all.

And this is why the Limjoes don't talk to you anymore because you left the group.

See, I like being an Android green bubble because then people just look at me in scorn.

I'm an outsider.

You know, that was interesting because you mentioned that

there are people still out there and people with a lot with common sense.

Because I took this phone to a dinner recently because I had to use an get an Uber ride back because I didn't want to drink and then drive home.

Right.

So I had the phone with me, and somebody, a good friend of mine, looks at the phone and says, What is that?

And I say,

he says,

is that an Android phone?

And he was like, with disdain.

Are you a tech guy?

I can't believe you have that kind of phone.

And there really is that, it still exists, this

Apple iPhone bigotry.

Yes.

Yes.

I thought they would have gone away by now.

It makes no sense to me.

Well, differences are making.

I think that, you know, my flip phone,

people think it's cool.

Yeah, well, we're coming to that, by the way, in these clips.

That's why these clips are here.

All right.

Number three.

Yeah.

So why do we use it?

What happens is we feel compelled.

We feel obsessed with keeping up with things.

And we don't want to miss out on something because a lot of social activities that you might want to be involved in are

on

TikTok.

So, this chemical cortisol in larger and larger quantities makes you feel anxious.

And it's the same kind of anxiety as if you were going to get up and speak to an audience.

Your palms sweat,

your pits sweat, your stomach

has butterflies, and you just feel weird.

You just feel uncomfortable.

That's the cortisol working.

Hmm.

Okay.

Yes, I believe that.

Now, from there, they go into a part I cut out all the rest of this.

Well, can I ask you a question?

Because

it's not just the phone, it's what you have on the phone, which would be social media, feeling left out of the news cycle.

So it's not just the phone.

Yeah, heaven forbid you miss a headlight.

Yeah, or

a great TikTok video.

So they had a, I get those from Twitter.

I know.

And so they had a long exhibition of ways of breaking free from the phone by putting it doing there's a bunch of exercises that none of them made any sense to me except putting the phone in the drawer, which they don't bring that up.

And so it goes on.

I figured that was going to be my last clip.

And then they come up with the flip phone stuff.

Here we go with the last clip.

All right.

Some people have moved to old-fashioned flip phones.

Larry, what do you think about that?

Is that a good solution?

You know, people have tried lots of solutions.

They've tried taking people up to the mountains for a weekend without your phones at all.

They've tried having you get a flip phone that basically acts as a dumb phone, and none of it has worked.

Which is why this all feels so out of our control.

You mentioned control.

We know that tech companies making this product are doing everything they can to keep us tied to that device.

So I can see, we talked about addiction.

I can see a path to quitting alcohol or tobacco.

I do not see how we collectively separate ourselves from this technology.

What are your thoughts?

I don't think we have to separate ourselves from the technology.

I think awareness is critical.

And the first part of awareness is looking at that screen, the screen time data and going, oh my God, I didn't realize I was on so many hours.

What can I cut back on?

So what you have to do is recognize that it's going to be uncomfortable for a while.

But as long as you stick with it and do those tech breaks where you get to look at your phone every 15 to 30 minutes, you're going to feel like, oh, okay, I'm in good shape.

I can focus for 30 minutes, talk to my spouse, watch a movie, whatever,

and it's not going to make me crazy.

You know, this guy, I mean, this is not new.

He's given me nothing.

I'm not excited by what he's saying.

That's because he doesn't have the phone in the drawer.

He is all in.

He's also addicted.

Yeah.

This is like talking, you know, it's like

people, this is, everybody's in denial about this problem, including the expert.

Yeah, I'm going to cancel that invitation to Rogan.

You just got uninvited, bro.

Now that was a little disappointing because I thought that he would have a lot more, but

this is not new information other than that he wrote a book about it.

Just stop it.

I mean, I leave my phone in the studio

and at a set time, you know, maybe,

I don't know, maybe after dinner, I'll go take a look.

Is there anything?

No, okay.

And that's, it's usually just, is anything,

is anything that's happening that's important, you know, with the show or whatever.

But I try to keep everything in one room.

And when I go out, all I have, and I'm when I go out, I'm only having the flip phone.

I will say, I'm excited about the light phone

3.

Is it the light phone 3 or the light phone?

Hold on a sec.

I pre-ordered one.

It should be shipping.

Because the problem with the flip phone is,

I mean, I might as well not text because

my writing has retarded significantly.

You know, the screen is small.

I don't see the mistakes.

There's some autocorrect in there.

It's the most, and of course, I have Dutch and English dictionary, so it's throwing out entire words in Dutch.

I don't see it.

It was just dumb.

I mean, people, I insult people without intending to, like saying horrible things.

Oh, yeah, it's no good.

But the Light Phone 3,

I really think this

might be the one.

I had

the Light Phone 2, which is really tiny and it has a, you know, it's not easy to

use.

With the Light Phone 3 should be a good texting machine, and it has a camera.

I like that.

But you can't get the, there's no web browser, there's no email.

It has some of the things you need a phone for, like

navigation, handy, podcasts, hello,

music,

phone, text, and I think that's it.

And a flashlight.

What more do you need in a phone?

I don't know.

Mine's in the drawer.

Well, you should write a book.

I don't know what I'd say.

Very short book.

Put your phone in a drawer.

Cold turkey, man.

Cold turkey.

That's what this guy is.

All you need to do is put a big gold star on the front, instant bestseller.

Instant bestseller.

It has one page.

Put your phone in a drawer.

No.

Oh, oh, you know what you do?

It's a, remember our buddy,

the hollow book guy, freehollowbooks.com?

So how to get rid of your phone addiction.

You open the book and you put your phone in the bookshelf.

Put the phone in there.

And close it.

Now, that's a premium item.

And then put it up on the, on this, in the, in the bookshelf.

Yeah.

That, that's a good idea.

The ultimate guide to getting rid of your phone.

And you open it up and it's just a hole.

You put your phone in and put it on the book.

That's a gag gift.

That would be good.

That's a great gag gift, yeah.

Yeah, I think it's a good gift.

I like it.

Well, speaking of addiction, there's a lawsuit against the major bookmakers.

These guys, they are, you know, I think females, women, girls, I think they get very addicted to the social nature, the texting in particular of the phone.

Young boys, whoo boy.

In January of 2025 alone, Maryland vetters wagered more than $457 million on DraftKings and FanDuel.

That's according to a new complaint filed Thursday by the city of Baltimore against two sports books alleging misleading tactics.

They'll call me and say, like,

we have this promotion and blah, blah, blah.

And we see you haven't been in a while.

So they do stuff like that.

Yeah.

The city accuses them of engaging in deceptive and unfair practices to target and exploit vulnerable Baltimore users using algorithms to keep problem gamblers betting, as well as misleading promotions like bonus bets and no swept bets to create compulsive gambling behavior.

The complaint reads: Defendants are not interested in people merely dipping their toes in the water.

They want bettors to bet in significant amounts over and over.

Some get hooked, and that's the point.

The law firm representing the city tells 11 News the sports books are in violation of the consumer protection ordinance.

If they don't see you wagering quickly enough, they'll reach out to you and say, well, you've been a little quiet.

We're going to put a couple of hundred dollars in your account.

Have at it.

So they do all these things to bring you closer and closer to them.

The Maryland Center of Excellence on Problem Gambling encourages folks to set a budget and time limits before opening up a sports betting app.

Yeah, I believe this to be completely true.

I do, too, because

it's a known fact that people can easily be addicted to gambling.

I can't get this idea out of my head.

You guys got a publishing company.

You got too manyeggs.com.

Let's do a book.

Here's the book I want to do with you.

Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak, The No Agenda Show Guide to Getting Rid of Your Phone Addiction.

Open back on that.

Yes, it's a great idea.

You can do a hollow book.

Yes, this is one you can actually execute on.

Well, the problem with the hollow book is that Matt producing the hollow book.

It's not a problem.

I think it is.

You're so lazy.

No, it's not a matter of laziness in this case.

Besides that, Jay does all the work for that publishing company, not me.

Well, tell Jay about it.

She's not lazy, I can assure you.

Tell Jay about it.

She won't.

I'm telling you right in advance that

unless we can find somebody in China, which is now going to be impossible, to can do holo books and mass produce them, because that would sell at least, I don't know, anywhere from 5,000 to 25,000 copies, depending on what time of the year it is.

Do a hollow

colour.

This is a crazy thought.

Just a crazy thought.

Ready?

I'm going to blow you away with my crazy thought.

I am convinced, without even doing the research, that there is an American company that can do these at scale, and they'd be happy to.

And someone knows them, and they're listening to this show right now.

Okay.

We're America, man.

We don't need to.

We're good at messaging through this show for marketing purposes.

We will sell.

There's no doubt about it.

We will sell, sell, sell.

Sell.

Sell, I tell you.

And if not, we'll always get our guy, Rutte, to sell for us because, man, he is still out there selling us.

Well, as I said last week in Warsaw, I know there has been some tough language.

I know that there have been allies, for example, on this side of the pond, being worried about the long-term commitment of the US to NATO.

And I was in the White House, but before I went to the White House, we had President Macron there and Prime Minister Starmer and on so many other occasions.

Don't worry, the US is not going to leave NATO.

The Americans have stated again and again, we are committed to NATO, we are committed to Article 5.

This commitment comes with a clear expectation, the expectation that

on this side of the Atlantic and Canada, we will spend more,

commit that we will really deliver on the 2%, and then move upwards because of these gaps we still have in this part

of NATO to deliver on all the targets.

And that's the process we are in the middle of.

And in the meantime, the hundreds of billions are

billion as we speak.

This is he has brown.

Why did he say the hundreds of billions?

The hundreds of billions are rolling in as we speak.

That's great.

Meantime, the hundreds of billions are rolling in as we speak.

Where are they rolling into?

That will continue, no doubt, over the coming days and weeks, is my expectation.

And we have to do this because of the Russian threat and because of the increasing China

threat.

So So let's not be naïve about that.

No.

But I'm absolutely convinced this alliance is there to stay with the US.

Their commitment is absolutely clear.

We want to do more together in the Pacific, even so, and we want to work on many issues, including in the Arctic, and I think that is also positive.

NATO is

Norse Atlantic Treaty Organization, but we're going to do more in the Pacific.

So it will be

IPTO,

IPTO, a new organization,

IPTO,

Indo-Pacific Trade Organization.

Okay?

And remember, there's more.

When it comes to China.

China.

It is important.

Let's be totally clear about this.

Let's be clear.

We know that they help and support the Russia's warfare through war effort, through sanctions circumvention, through delivery of dual-use goods.

So they are an integral part of the war effort.

And now North Korea

is sending its soldiers to Europe

into war here.

Oh no.

And we know that the Russians are repaying them not only with money but also with technology, which

in the end is also posing a threat to the United States and to the whole of NATO territory and to the Indo-Pacific.

No.

Iran involved, very much involved, and getting money from the Russians by which they then

can stir up even more trouble in the Middle East, uh as Iranians love to do through their directly and through their proxies in Lebanon and

through

proxies in in Gaza and Lebanon.

So th this is really a global issue.

Let's look at that.

to my heart and many in my country and in Australia because uh as you know Australia was the second uh now he's bringing in m h 17 as you know the russians killed all those people on m h 17 not conclusive hardest hit country with many people uh dying in the in m h 17 in in that a terrible disaster uh on the

17th of july twenty fourteen hundred and ninety six from my country uh and that means that uh i'm now not in the national government but this is clearly a position the Dutch government has always taken and I have no reason to think that has changed.

Okay, well, wonderful.

So he brings up the threats, many threats, and Netanyahu was in Hungary, and he talked about some threats.

And it's the H3.

H3 is the new threat.

But I would say that our cooperation goes deeper than that, because I believe we are fighting a similar battle for the future of our common civilization.

Our Judeo-Christian civilization, Western civilization, as we understand it.

It's under assault right now for one powerful quarter, and that's radical Islam.

Radical Islam in the Middle East is spearheaded by one country, that's Iran.

It has proxies, the three H's, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and others.

But the center, the pulsating engine is Iran.

We were attacked by Iran's proxies in a murderous campaign by Hamas terrorists who raped our women, beheaded our men, burnt our babies, and took hostages.

We're committed to bring back home all of them,

including a hostage of Hungarian citizenship, Umbri.

We discussed this.

We'll bring them back all home.

But we will smash the Iranian axis, the Iranian terror axis, which threatens not only us, but Europe and many of our neighbors in the Middle East.

We're committed to doing so.

And by doing that, we are also protecting Europe.

Maybe there are some in Europe who don't understand this, but Viktor Orban understands this.

He understands this common battle for our values, for our interests, and for our common security.

And I want to thank you for that.

Well,

Hungary has no worry about radical Islam because they just didn't let him in like the rest of Europe.

You know, I was talking to Christina.

She's moving out of Rotterdam.

She can't take it.

Where's she going to go?

Zandom.

Zandom.

Zandom.

Zandom.

Yeah, she says, I can't take it anymore.

She says, it's just not fun walking on the street as a woman.

And it's not radical Islam, but it's definitely Moroccans.

Yeah, Moroccan horn dogs.

Hardly radical Islam.

No.

Just the opposite.

But, you know, we have had a couple of interesting things happen in the Netherlands, in Amsterdam.

We had a guy just, and this was a Ukrainian, I think.

He decided to go stab a bunch of people.

Then some other dude drove his his car onto the damn square and exploded it, well, lit it on fire, and he was on fire.

People losing their ever-loving minds over there.

Now, the reason why Netanyahu was able to go there is because Hungary

has renounced the International Criminal Court.

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is facing an international arrest warrant, and yet he received a red carpet welcome in Budapest by Prime Minister Viktor Orban, breaking the country's obligation to bring him into custody.

Orban subsequently said he would quit the International Criminal Court.

I was the Prime Minister who signed the document to join the ICC in 2000, and I was the one who signed the document to leave it in the past few days.

It is our conviction that in recent years it has become not a neutral legal court but a political court.

Netanyahu is wanted by the ICC for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity in the Gaza Strip, including starvation as a method of warfare, murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts.

His trip to Budapest is highly symbolic at a time when his army is expanding its military operations in the enclave.

He is expected to spend four days meeting with officials trying to garner support.

Standing alongside Orban, he too criticised the ICC, saying Israel is fighting a just war with just means.

He hailed Hungary's decision.

Victor Orban, did you visit Epstein Island?

Hmm?

They got something on him.

Well, I'll tell you this.

Nanyahu's got an issue here with what happened to these

Red Crescent

people that were basically killed

illegally by the IDF forces.

I do have a clip of this because it's became a big topic on the BBC and elsewhere.

Okay.

It is.

Where's this clip?

I don't see it.

Ah, yeah, Israel worker scandal.

Ah, okay.

The Israeli military has admitted its soldiers made mistakes over the killings of 15 emergency workers in Gaza after footage emerged casting doubt on its version of events.

The convoy came under fire near Rafah last week.

Israel had initially said the vehicles approached suspiciously in darkness without headlights or emergency lights, but video filmed by a paramedic killed in the shooting appeared to contradict those claims.

Alfie Tobett reports.

The footage published by the Palestine Red Crescent Society shows clearly marked vehicles with their headlights and emergency lights on.

At least one of the workers is wearing a reflective uniform.

It appears to contradict the Israeli military's original explanation for why it opened fire just seconds later.

At a briefing, an Israeli official admitted that account was inaccurate.

They said the soldiers had earlier fired at a car containing three Hamas members, and when the emergency convoy stopped nearby, the troops assumed they were under threat.

Israel maintains at least six of the medics were linked to Hamas, but it's not yet provided evidence to back up that claim.

They're certainly fulfilling the prophecy of all the nations hating Israel.

That is moving along just splendidly.

Well, that brings me to an Ask Adam.

I'm glad you said that.

Answer the question, go.

All right, what's the question?

Well, the question is, the question is:

what is this all about?

Because I don't, I figure you all, maybe Adam knows.

What this woman, this TikToker, comes out with this commentary and then this ends it.

And I don't know what the hell she's talking about.

Okay, so 144,000

Jewish virgin males.

They're all men

from the 12 tribes.

During the three days of darkness, they will be activated.

That's what they are.

Jewish male virgins from the 12 tribes.

Thank you.

Well, you've stumped me.

The three days of darkness and the 144,000 Jewish virgins.

What is she talking about?

I do not recall reading this in my Bible, but I will inquire for you.

I will go to my

theologian expert and friend, Pastor Jimmy.

I'll ask him about that.

Well, I thought you'd know right after, you know, I actually thought you might know this right off the top of your head.

That would be excellent if I did.

I had never.

Yeah, I would be, but I guess I was wrong.

Okay.

Well, is it the

12 from the 12 something?

No, you don't have to try to figure it out.

Just ask.

I'm not going to.

I will.

Now, I do have some clips on child labor laws being back, child labor being back as a thing.

You mean in your house?

Well, it's always been a thing in my house.

You've always been for child labor and the family.

I think child labor is a good thing.

I said when I was a kid, I was a paper boy

when I was a little kid.

And then as I got older, I worked there every summer.

No, no,

that's not what I'm talking about.

In the history of the show, I could look it up, but just trust me, you have said, no, no, you got to put the kids to work for the family business.

And you do.

And you do.

You always have.

Jay and Buzzkill Jr.

both have worked and she still works for the family business.

And I think it's great.

It's like you're a farmer, just not a crop.

Exactly.

You're a book farmer.

I am a farmer.

In spirit.

Book farmer.

So here's the thing.

This clip's about, they've tried to change some of these laws because they don't want kids working, even though it's legal at some point.

When I was a kid, I remember

being in, I think it was the eighth grade or high school, where if you were 15, I think you could be 15, and all you need is from a note from the high school called a work permit,

and you could work.

Like you wanted to work part-time during the week or whatever.

And it was no big deal.

In fact, everyone relished these jobs because all the kids, I'm not, I mean, not all the kids worked, but I was one of them.

I always worked.

And when I did, I always had more, I had money.

And, you know, that's a big deal to have some cash on your money.

When you have money, you can get girls.

Yeah, you get the girls.

So

let's listen to these clips.

Some states have been loosening the rules around how much teens should be allowed to work on the job, and the Republican-led Florida legislature is debating questions like whether 14-year-olds can have jobs or how late bosses can ask 16-year-olds to work on school nights.

In Tallahassee, WFSU's Tristan Wood reports.

One proposal would allow 16-year-olds to work more than the current 30-hour a week cap, including longer days and later hours, even on school nights.

Another would loosen some limits on 14-year-olds working if they're in homeschool, virtual education, or already graduated.

One of the bills is sponsored by Tampa Republican State Senator Jay Collins.

He says it is about parental rights and giving children more access to jobs.

I believe that parents are best suited to take care of their kids and manage their schedules and make sure that they're doing what's best for them.

I don't understand why the state needs to go beyond the federal regulations in this case.

Federal laws are weaker, but Florida already loosened some child labor laws last year.

And the state isn't alone.

Nina Mast is a policy and economic analyst at the Washington-based Economic Policy Institute, which seeks to improve wages for working people.

She says dozens of states have considered similar bills and several passed some last year.

What we are seeing, especially coming out of the pandemic, is really just a push that is led by the business industry and some right-wing think tanks to be able to make it easier to hire young people at lower wages, for longer hours, and in more hazardous jobs under the guise of wanting to address a so-called labor shortage.

So it's under the guise, according to this lefty

and it's all right-wing think tanks that they don't want kids working.

You know, think about this.

We could set up an AI company that just has a bunch of kids who are filling out forms.

Yeah, like the Indians do.

Agentic AI, and we just have kids do it.

I love it.

It's a good idea.

It is a good idea.

Onward.

Mast says the changes are intended to drive down wages that went up in lower-paying industries during the pandemic, meaning jobs like servers in restaurants and delivery drivers.

This is really a concerted nationwide effort.

Stop the clip.

Stopping the clip.

You can't have a delivery driver who's 14.

Let's start with that premise.

So

we're dealing with false equivalencies and fake premises.

Oh, yeah, this is so the delivery drivers, like a 14, 15, even a 16-year-old delivery driver.

I don't, so they get them cheaper?

No, no, no.

This is bull crap.

Meaning jobs like servers in restaurants and delivery drivers.

This is really a concerted nationwide effort to essentially create a permanent underclass of disempowered low-wage workers.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis seemed to back the general idea of more minors in the labor force, speaking recently at an immigration panel that included U.S.

Immigration Czar Tom Homan.

What's wrong with expecting our young people to be working part-time now?

I mean, like, that's how it used to be when I was growing up.

Why do we say we need to import foreigners, even import them illegally, when teenagers used to work at these resorts?

He didn't mention child labor laws, but his comments were seized on by Democratic lawmakers who said child labor shouldn't be used to enable an immigration crackdown.

John Flitter, a political science professor at Kansas State University, who's written a book on child labor laws, agrees.

Studies show that when kids start working, you know, these hours, they do not do well in school.

Some of them drop out, you know.

And if you don't have a high school degree, a diploma, you're not really going to be successful financially for the rest of your life.

Oh, really?

This is bull crap.

Yeah, I mean, go on how to work.

It's a permanent underclass.

And then DeSantis himself says he used to work like that when he was a kid.

He's the governor of the state.

How's that a permanent underclass?

And besides that, we're talking about 14 and 15-year-olds who do not stay that age for more than a year.

This whole thing is like a design to promote immigration.

No, we don't want the kids working.

We don't want them having any jobs or learning any life skills.

Screw the kids of America.

Bring in some immigrants.

That's all this is about.

Bring back apprenticeships.

There's another good thing.

That's exactly right.

Where you'd learn something.

But no, no, no.

It was an exploitation, a permanent underclass.

You sound very upset by this.

I am very upset by it because I used to work.

It all stems from the one experience I had probably, I don't know, 25 years ago.

I was bitching and moaning.

I was in Port Townsend, Washington.

I remember exactly where it took place.

And there was a bunch of kids in,

they were sitting around doing nothing.

And I don't know, I got into a conversation with them.

Were they your kids?

Were they your kids?

Just ran out.

No, they were just a bunch of kids.

I don't know who they were.

You just walked out.

And they were in.

They were just, they were ne'er-do-well high schoolers.

And I mentioned something.

Somehow the conversation, we got into a conversation.

I talked about it.

When I was, I don't understand

why you're here.

Why, you know, you get a part-time job or you could be doing something.

I'm sounding sounding like an old man.

But the point was, the kids called me out.

They said, when you were a kid, it was different.

We would love to get a job.

We can't get a job.

There are no jobs for us.

So you can complain about this all you want, he says, the guy, but

you're talking to the wrong people because

I love to go get a job for the summer.

It was during the summer.

And it really affected me.

And ever since then, I've noticed this whole idea of let's keep the kids from working.

Let's don't let them

do it.

Let's bring in immigrants and have them do the jobs.

And then I remembered, like, I used to be a paperboy, and then that paperboy job used to went and eventually fell onto the immigrants who drove cars around and started delivering the papers door to door,

out of a car, throwing the paper out of the window.

It's just like the whole thing is designed to screw the American public.

And listening to these apologists really gets me irked.

We need to stop using the paper boy as an example because that's

that opens you up.

You can't get the newspaper.

It opens you up to school.

But I learned how to shoe horses with the blacksmith.

I learned how to.

Yes.

I've told you this story.

I don't remember you shoeing horses.

We had Cora.

We had Cor DeSmit, and

he was the blacksmith, and he did all kinds of stuff.

But I had an apprenticeship with him

two or three days a week.

And then he'd teach me how to shoe horses, which is a dynamite way to get rid of the sniffles.

And then the minute you put a hot horseshoe on a horse's hoof, woohoo!

And it smelled.

And then banging it out on the anvil.

Oh, yeah.

It was great.

And you have to stand behind the horse and then take his rear leg and put it between your knees.

Oh, yeah.

Now, not a lot of apprenticeships in horseshoeing either, but Wellsy.

There's lots of apprenticeships all over the place for all kinds of things.

If they existed, but they pulled them from the market because, oh, let's just bring some immigrants in and let them work cheap.

These apologists for

this screw-up are unacceptable to me, and this is NPR at its best.

State Senator Collins defends his legislation, saying teens working jobs provides other skills they can't get in school.

We want our kids to be academically prepared, but let's talk about soft skills.

Let's talk about adult function.

Let's talk about executive thought process and management.

Where do they learn that?

Do we teach them that in school?

I think if you go look at what's going on, we really don't.

We don't prepare them for executive function.

We don't even have home ec and things like that.

It's unclear what will pass Florida's legislature.

The Senate President and House Speaker both say they are unsure about further reducing child labor protections.

But in a committee meeting this week, lawmakers raised the idea of loosening rules for 13-year-olds to work in the summer.

Well, oh, you have to loosen the rules so a 13-year-old

can work in the summer.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

Permanent underclass.

I mean, around here in Fredericksburg, there's plenty of opportunities.

You can work with Paul, the septic guy.

The septic guy.

Hey, let me tell you, Paul, the septic guy, does pretty good.

I bet he does.

You touch a lot of septic on it.

You can work with Pete, the the well guy.

You can work with Shane, the electrician.

He'd love to have some apprenticeship.

He's hard for him to get paid workers

to understand what they're doing.

Anyway,

we're old men.

By the way, I need to brush up on my eschatology.

And I will be the first to admit Revelation is not my book.

It's a very, very, very complicated one.

Revelation 7:4, then I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

There's nothing about virgins or three days of darkness.

This is end times stuff, man.

End times.

That's what she was talking about.

The end times are coming.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

And

Macron is the Antichrist.

Well, that's possible.

Well, someone sent me actually an interesting thing.

What was it

about?

He's not doing it, by the way, as an Antichrist, he stinks.

He's no good as an Antichrist.

I agree.

One of Daniel's description of the Antichrist is:

he's be without the love of a woman.

Well, I'm just saying.

That's right.

We keep our eyes on the end times for you.

Only partially joking.

And now we want to thank the rest of our supporters, donors, and lovers and producers who sent some value to us, $50 and above.

I'm sure there's some people there who gave the lovely $73.73 donation, which probably came in as $76.43 if you added the fees.

And these are all happy birthday wishes, well wishes for John.

And I want to thank you all for making John's birthday a very happy one.

Well, let's start with Ash.

And this is another one.

It's $135.79, and she puts in her note Stephen Wright donations.

Wow.

We need a number.

Well, we don't need a number, just Stephen Wright donations.

They're all random numbers for those.

It's fine by me.

Random Stephen Wright donations.

Very strange.

It's good.

Nick Ellenbecker, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

Dame Diane, The Nation North of the Wall,

118.92.

Proof that no agenda karma works.

Newcastle United Football Club

wins the first domestic cup in 70 years.

How about

Angela Garcia?

She was at the meetup.

She came in with 100.

And she also, I don't realize, Angela's always producing.

She does, she's like an artist who does little miniatures.

Oh.

And she always, yeah, I think she gave me a little podcaster once, but this last time she gives a small framed,

I think it's Samoan, or it's not Samoan, it's some other

mermaid, which was a which JC knew about this

mermaid, which was a fake, which was a mermaid that some scientists cobbled together as a proof of mermaids existing.

It was a complete fraud.

And she made a little bitty one.

Anyway, in a frame, it's very interesting.

Every meetup, she shows up and drops something off like that.

Sir,

is it Zull?

Zulbat?

Zulbat.

Sir Zulbat.

$100.

Cole Gregory in Amherst, Ohio, $808.

Kevin McLaughlin, there he is.

He's the Duke of Luna, a lover of American boobs, $8008.

And now we start with the happy birthdays.

The first one's kind of high because it came in from Paris, France, and all with all the, I guess, the rigamoral.

Sheila sent a happy birthday from Paris, Paris.

$79.82.

Warm wishes.

Sheila from Paris.

Okay.

All right.

Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado, 76.43.

And I'm just going to read the names and locations of all these birthday well-wishers, starting with

Jason Frank Van Devin

in

Mass

Mechelen.

Mass Mechelen.

Moss, Moss.

Mass Mechanel.

Mass Mechelen.

Belgium.

Is it Belgium?

Yeah, Belgium.

70s.

Yeah, 70s.

Jeffrey Montagna in Phoenix, Arizona, and Jeff Jack, I'm sorry, Schofield in Yankeetown, Yankeetown, Florida.

Anonymous in Pennsburg, Pennsylvania.

Dame Beth in Tucson, Arizona.

By the way, somebody also handed off a couple of silver coins, and I didn't get their name on them.

So sorry about that.

Dan Martin

in

Washugal.

I know most of these Washington towns, but I never heard of this one.

Washugal.

73s, W-1, B-U-S.

73s.

Friends of you all since you worked at a place in the TV, Tech TV.

Ana Ham.

Gadget Freak 10 in Western Springs, Illinois.

Michael Mayers in Diamond Head, Mississippi.

Sir Goat of the Hill in Pleasant Ridge, Michigan.

Commodore G in Cincinnati.

Danella Daniela, I think, at Pom Pompo in Los Angeles, California.

Visit L.A., she writes.

Dorothy Schroed

in Corvallis, Oregon.

Eric Hanna in Chicago,

Anonymous in Georgia.

Bruce Hutchison in

Anthem, Arizona.

Colonel

John C.

J-A-W-N-C

kind of interesting.

Enjoy your biscuits in Bordeaux.

He's from,

looks like Kirkland.

Randy O'Rourke, parts unknown, Kirk Strzok,

Jason Babcock,

Dame Astrid and Sir Mark.

They came in.

That's nice as well.

Best boomer ever, they say.

That's me.

That's right.

And I can complain as with the best of them.

Dame Lacey in Lake Mills,

Wish Again.

Wish again.

Wish again.

I'm using that from now on.

Wish again,

Wisconsin.

Sir Dirty Jersey Whore in Gladewater, Texas.

Have you ever run into him?

Yes, many times.

He's about seven feet tall, loves.

Yes, that's what somebody at the meetup said.

Hey, I met Dirty Jersey Whore, and it says Dirty Jersey or something on his back or Jerseyer.

Yeah.

And he says, The guy's a monster.

he's huge.

He's a nice guy, sweetheart.

Yeah, and he said he's a super nice guy.

Very, the bigger they are, the bigger they are.

Very generous, very sweet.

Well, he gave us a nice decent glade water.

And he's tasty.

Sir Beboop

in New Brighton, Minnesota.

Donald

Roth

in Parkston, South Dakota.

John Fellman in Chico.

R.

F.

Ider.

R.

F.

Ider in Fairfax, Virginia.

How about R.

F.

I.

Deer?

RFIDer.

I think that's the guy who may have

something with RFID things, I guess.

I'm just, just, just.

Yeah, that's what it is.

But I think he may be a guy who also dropped off something

or put something in the envelope

of interest.

Laura here in Williston, Vermont.

Stephen Tucci in Littleton, Colorado.

Sir Austin in Sammamish, Washington.

Baron of Puget Sound, actually.

Dame Rita, there she is in Sparks, Nevada.

Kimberly Bridges, Sarasota, Florida.

He's all say happy birthday, by the way.

Sir Latte

from Starbucks.

No, he's in Bremerton, Washington.

Sir Recalcitrent Crazy Steve.

There's our guy.

The second.

The second.

There's more of them.

There's more of them.

There might be.

Sir John, parts unknown, Danny Haynes, Sir Becoming Heroic.

Top notch heating.

And where's it?

You have it broke out.

It's a plug for top-notch heating.

Top-notch heating and air.

And air conditioning in Matte, Utah.

That's what you want to go to.

Sir Johnny Bananas and Dame Sally Bananas

in Fowler, Indiana.

Sir Robertson in Dos Paulos, California.

Ahmed Meehan in Calgary, Alberta.

Well, that ended it, by the way.

And by the way,

Ahmed Meehan, who is he sent $100

in Canadian dollary dues, and he actually sent me a note.

What was the note that he sent?

He needs a jobs karma, and I will give that to him at the end.

Here's what he said.

What did he say here?

He needs jobs

Yeah, good fortune.

Yes, okay.

You got it.

So his $100 became $67.31.

And that's probably plus fees.

Maybe.

David Cox in Austin, Texas, $63.25.

Troy Funderburke in Missoula, Montana, $55.

Michael Gates, $5,280.

Roger

Kese Kesey in Holland, Michigan, $52.72.

These are all $50 donors.

Sometimes you read them off as 50s, except for, well, we got Craig Bodak, parts unknown, Gordon Myers in Dripping Springs,

$51.50.

And these are officially $50 donors.

Chris Connacher in Anchorage.

Alex Zavala in Kiley, Texas.

Sir Alex, yes.

Sir Alex.

Mark Miller in

Lenoxa, I think is how it's pronounced.

Kansas.

Henry Clan in Alido, Texas.

Corey Jackson in Waterton, Tennessee, Walker Phillips over here in San Rafael, California, and last on the list, good list, Vancid in Virginia.

I think, boy, Vancid may have been the one who sent the extra gift.

I'll tell you about that later.

Okay.

I want to thank these people.

Is it exploding?

It's exploding dildo.

Hey, everybody.

Thank you so much for celebrating John's birthday with us.

It's an annual tradition here on the show.

We do it twice a year.

One for me, one for John, and we appreciate that.

Noagendadonations.com.

Here's the jobs karma as requested.

Jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

You've got karma.

Noagendadonations.com.

You can also go there to start a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency.

It's noagendadonations.com.

It's your birthday and birthday.

And besides celebrating John's birthday, we also celebrated

Brittany Johnson's birthday as her husband, Jordan Johnson, wished his smoking hot wife, Brittany, a very happy one.

She turned 40 on April 5th.

Akasha Gelesha

says, Happy birthday to her son, Adam.

He turned 18 on the 5th of April as well.

And we say happy birthday to these people from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

It's your birthday, Adam.

Title changes.

Turn and face the slaves.

Don't wanna be a dude.

We do that title change from earlier.

Sir Lawrence of Dystopia

upped his support to the show in the amount of $1,000.

So he becomes Sir Lawrence of Dystopia Baronet of Maxwell Park.

That's on the spreadsheet.

That's not what you approve, but that's how it went down.

So now I guess it's official.

Congratulations, Sir Lawrence, now Baronet, and we thank you very much for your support of the No Agenda Show.

We have three Commodores to welcome and we start by welcoming commodore indomitable dame melody fugazotto commodore sir ronald lafferty and commodore cheeky and anonymous commodores arriving

Go to noagendarings.com, you brand new Commodores, and give us your address so that we can get your Commodore shipping, your paperwork out to you as soon as possible.

And of course, let us know what name you would like on it.

We thank you all very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe.

Zane Peterson Peterson is a layaway knight.

It works, people.

You just lay away a little bit, do one of those recurring donations.

He says, Hey, guys.

I never thought I'd make it to knighthood, so I never checked.

The other day, I was scrolling through PayPal to find something, and I was like, Holy cow!

I think I'm close to knighthood.

I tallied things up, and I was.

I was over the mark.

So, on to the cool stuff.

I'd like my night name to be Zerzanimak of the Squared Circle, and I'll have good old mutton and mead.

Thanks a million, he says.

And he wants a jobs karma from Nancy.

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

You've got karma.

So, why don't we?

Let's see, we have two here.

Why don't we bring these knights up on the table?

I've got my blade here.

If you can

draw your sword, very nice.

Nice sword drawing, sir.

St.

Peterson, you're ready to go.

Marty from Banksberg, you are ready to go as well.

And we'll be thinking of you, Marty.

You've You got this, as they say.

Both of you have supported the No Agenda Show directly or through proxy in $1,000 or more.

I'm very proud to pronounce the K.

Sir Zanimac of the Squared Circle and Sir Marty von Weinsberg of the Coachella Valley.

For you, gentlemen, we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys, and Chardonnay, or Belgian Fritz Gotten and as cold unsweetened mountain dew, along with that Ruben S.

Lumen and Rose, Gayson and Sake, Bonginson Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Breast Milk and Pablo, or as always, the Mutton and the Mead.

You also are welcome to go to NoAgendarings.com.

In this case, use the handy ring sizing guide to let us know exactly what size ring you want for your night ring.

It is a signet ring, so we also give you wax to use when sealing your important correspondence.

And as always, this also comes with a certificate of authenticity.

Welcome to both of you to the No Agenda Roundtable of our Nights and Days.

No Agenda Beyond.

your honor.

We are in a time where people are trying to divide and trying to

attack relationships.

And this is a moment for you to keep relationships going, to build new ones, to restore old ones, perhaps.

But connection is protection if you go to a No Agenda meetup.

You can find them at noagendameetups.com.

They are all producer organized.

They're fun.

They're a lot of fun to go to.

Everybody's willing to talk.

You can have a drink.

You can hang out.

You can be weird.

You can be as weird as you want to be.

No one cares because, you know, you're part of the No Agenda family.

We get it.

NoAgendametups.com is where you can find the entire listing calendar.

Here's a meetup report.

This was the Crossword Puzzle Meetup.

Coming at you from the TMI Evax Owen Meetup, and I'm training up the next generation of anti-AI warriors.

No of AI is stealing our future.

Have a nice day from Steve.

Sarcastic the Nomad.

Thank you for your courage.

It's Jason with the great retes here with my smoking hot wife, Natasha.

All right.

Remember your servers, people.

Tip them and get them in the meetup reports.

One meetup today, only one.

Actually, this is April 10th, so that's

that doesn't make any sense.

That would be this coming Thursday.

Right.

There you go.

Sorry, not today.

I'm confused.

This coming Thursday, the Outer Swamp Meetup.

Now, this is 6 o'clock at the Dogfish Head Alehouse.

That's a new location in Gaithersburg, Maryland.

So make sure you check that on the meetup site.

Coming up in the upcoming month, we have Schofield, Wisconsin, Oklahoma City, Colorado Springs, Mount Laurel Township, Jersey, Eagle, Idaho, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Big One, Houston, Texas, Toronto, Ontario, Indianapolis, Keene, New Hampshire.

Again, no, it's a different.

Charlotte, North Carolina, Leiden in the Netherlands, Bedford, Texas, Sacramento, California, Los Angeles, California.

And that's just just April.

We got them all the way through June, and you can find those at noagendametups.com.

Enjoy your time.

Connection is protection.

These are your first responders in an emergency.

You need these relationships.

Noagendametups.com.

If you can't find one, start one yourself.

Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

You wanna be where you won't be triggered or hell.

You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

It's like a party.

Like a big party.

I will continue to try real ISOs while you just use AI for what it's really good for.

Surfing websites, creating videos for Scaramanga, and end-of-show ISO.

That's really what that $100 billion industry is about.

I have two.

I'm going to start with the first one.

Everything's going to go up.

No, that's no good.

I

thought this one was good.

dude.

What's going on?

What is that gonna do at the end of the show?

Nothing

because I don't type in a prompt.

Well, I got a real one in here, please.

Let's go with 10.

10 out of 10, perfection.

What's that got to do with the show?

Yeah,

yeah, very funny.

Yeah,

let's go with the

Arab shoot Arab Arab shoots.

Yeah, no, that's no good.

That was the real one.

That's no good.

Okay, well, let's try what is this?

Dips.

Come on, dip shits.

Do another hour.

No, I don't like that.

You would bulk against that saying that portrays us negatively.

We are not dip shits.

So that's no.

Hard no.

I agree.

I just threw it in just to add a little spice.

Yes, okay.

And there you got no.

No, it can't be over already.

Let me see.

Between that one and 10 out of 10 perfection.

I think that's the best one.

10 out of 10 perfection.

Still looking for yo, yo, yo, what up?

Yo, yo, yo, what up?

What up?

Somebody got to do that.

Nobody can do it.

You can't do it.

I know

there's a trick you can do it with, and it's using the voice changer.

In other words, you don't use the AI to create the voice.

You use your your own voice and say, yo, yo, yo, what up?

And then

you tweak it.

Someone out there can just record it.

You can do it.

You don't need AI for that.

But apparently, no one wants to participate.

They don't want to compete.

Hey, everybody, it's time for everybody's favorite moment of the show.

This is John's tip of the day.

Green master, you and me.

Just a tip with JCD

and sometimes Adam Okay, so this is a product tip.

Huh?

There's a product tip.

I get product tips once in a while besides cleaning tips.

I think everyone should get you get buy these by the pair.

There's like two sets of them.

And the and everyone should have these because it's the only way to go.

Otherwise, you're dicking around, dicking around, trying to find the right charging cable.

Oh, no.

That's not the best.

It's the multi-charging five-in-one

two-pieces, four-foot cables that have a usbc on one side and a micro usb and uh uh

it just has all these different connections that have three or four of them that you can plug into you find find one because of all these usb things they've created they've ruined it they got you got your c you got your micro you got your one that google uses you got the one that the iphone

well they don't even use they don't even bother iphone has to screws you over but it so you should buy these things that you get two of them for 10 bucks

and get them why they last because I'm sure they're coming out of China.

So you're so against USB-C, but isn't this kind of exactly why USB-C is good as a standard?

Why?

Well, because everybody, I mean, all my devices now have USB-C.

Yeah, that's the whole idea so they can spy on you.

What do you need when you have the regular small USB connector, which has four pins?

Count them, four pins, and they can go at incredibly high speeds.

Why do we suddenly need a 24-pin connector?

For AI.

For AI, man.

It's for AI, for AI throughput, for lack of latency, AI through.

And there's a bunch of little bitty, and they're so minuscule that if you put the thing in,

it's bound to screw up.

They're bound to break.

They're no good.

USB-C is no good.

You heard it here first.

You heard it here first, everybody.

USBC is no good.

It'll never fly.

I never said that.

But I'm putting words in your mouth.

Hey, tip of the day down there.

No onejofund.com.

Great advice for you and me.

Just a tip with JCD

and sometimes at home.

Created by Dana Bernetti.

There you go, everybody.

There's your tip of the day.

I have a tip for next week, for Thursday.

I got a couple of tips.

Sitting around in my underwear, Tina's out in Florida.

I got tips.

I got lots of tips for you.

Put some clothes on.

Here's a tip.

My tip is that if you stay tuned to the No Agenda Stream, Trollroom.io, and on your Modern Podcast app, you will hear behind the schemes coming up in just moments from now as we cruise right into that because it's a live thing we got going on.

It's just like radio, only cheaper and a lot more fun.

End of show mixes.

Thank you, Tom Starkweather, for a redux of Trump's tariffs.

This was from 2019, but it still fits.

And Professor Jay Jones comes in with some aha,

aha stuff.

Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg.

Picturesque Fredericksburg, I might add.

In the morning, everybody.

I'm Adam Curry.

Man from northern Silicon Valley, where it's been picturesque and the weather's better.

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

We return on Thursday with more of your No Agenda show.

We hope you will join us for that.

We certainly look forward to it.

I'm sure there will be something to deconstruct.

Remember us at NoAgendadonations.com.

Until then, adios mofos, a hooey hooey, and such.

He said we're going to put tariffs on Mexico.

Well, senators said, wait a minute.

Yeah, Republicans on the Hill haven't shown a whole lot of willingness to stand up to this president.

He's got a 90% approval rating among Republican voters, and all the Republican senators know that.

And every month, those tariffs go from 5% 5% to 10% to 15% to 20% and then to 25%.

Hence the color orange.

And if tariffs is what it takes to get Mexico to do better on their side of the border, I'm all for tariffs.

President Trump has a habit of proposing asinine and dangerous policies before backing off.

It would be my hope that they're going to work out things so the tariffs don't go into effect.

It just will not work.

And this will directly and immediately affect the American consumer.

So maybe it's just a threat.

Who knows?

I mean, he said the last thing that he said is that he's quite, he's deadly serious.

When you say you and I know,

I don't know that at all.

Here's what I know.

I don't know whether to believe it or not.

I say in this child, I know what I'm told, not what I know.

But I do know that if we secure the Mexican-Guatemalan border, that would be a great way to stop folks coming all the way across.

But we're not telling that over.

We haven't seen anything yet.

Except a tweet.

A tweet.

Mitch McConnell finally found his testicles because it's near his wallet.

People have endured much worse than expensive avocados or a few more dollars here and there.

And for the average American brooke, that is no small amount of money.

Brooke, a lot of money, $1,300.

Any brand of course with avocado on the menu will be impacted by this tariff.

I'm not blaming President Trump here.

I'm blaming the Congress because we can't do our job.

As you know, we have, with President Trump, been kind of a roller coaster.

So sometimes it's going up, sometimes it's coming down.

This is a man that lost more money than any other American person on the planet.

This guy has lost more money than anybody.

New unit, acronym aha, or aha.

Definitely the swear words.

He laughs at fear.

Aha.

Or damn.

He paused in the valley and rejoices for shit.

Turns out we are pretty right about the true value of TikTok.

Followed by don't be so flippant, man.

Aha.

Mine were cut off.

You've never met a gay dog?

Really?

Aha.

And the guilt is eating me alive.

He does not stand still in the voice

of the trumpet.

He says, Aha.

Baby, dogs are almost as gay as dolphins.

You need to get it together, my guy.

Don't be so flippant?

And do you know that that never was a jingle?

How dare you be so flippant, man?

He sailed among the trumpets.

Ha ha.

Dogs are gay.

The glory of his nostrils is terrible.

Okay, what was the question?

The Chinese never go to the gouging phase.

It makes no sense.

Great question.

Now, this is interesting.

Oh, remarkable, my ass.

I mean, we hear this ill-logic complaints constantly.

President Pump, that's his new name.

31% of Democrats were more likely to move to a place within five miles of a Trader Joe's.

Only 10% are Republicans.

The angry baby?

Let's call them delusional dems.

You like the angry baby?

Radicalizing them around this particular.

There you go.

He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage.

I never heard it as a jingle.

Aha.

Definitely the swear words.

He saith among the trumpets.

Aha.

Everyone's hearing palm.

Those child care centers will now face closure or significantly higher operating costs.

And then once you get it to yourself, you gouge.

Really?

Aha.

The best podcast in the universe.

10 out of 10, perfection.