1750 - "SPLESH!"

These I call bogus Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Thursday, March 27th, 2025.

This is your award-winning Kibo Nation Media Assassination, episode 1750.

This is no agenda.

Fat-fingered and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in FEMA, region number six.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry, and from northern Silicon Valley, where everybody has to resign.

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

It's Greg Bonnenbuskill.

In the morning.

Oh, man.

Oh, man.

It's days like this when the job is just tough.

Because there's just nothing else in the world is happening.

There's nothing happening.

It's all SignalGate.

I know you feel the same because you're like, oh, well, there goes the material.

Well,

I found some stuff outside of SignalGate.

Oh, me too.

Because the car tariffs, that's the other big news.

Oh, no, but that's not news.

We don't want to talk about that.

This morning, the MS-13 guy, some guy, some 25-year-old guy, was arrested.

Well, I'm here.

I'm glad you mentioned it.

Here we go.

Here's Pam Bondage.

Good morning.

Thank you for being here.

You're welcome.

Did you see Cash Patel in this?

They're all there.

But did you see what he had on his

FBI flight jacket?

We thought that was Camo.

No, it wasn't Camo.

No, that's his outdoor arresting people jacket.

He got the hat on.

He's got his sneakers on.

Yeah, cash, cash.

We have been out since about 4:30 this morning.

Oh,

stop for a second.

Yeah, really.

Why is she even there?

Well, they all report to her.

She's there.

Cash.

They're all there.

It's like.

Well, they were all out at 4 a.m.

this morning, and then they had doughnuts.

And like, come on, let's go announce this thing.

All right.

Everyone dressed right?

It just seemed to be showboating, if you ask me.

You think?

Whatever.

This was a, please pay no attention to Signal Gate.

We got an MS-13 guys.

That's exactly right.

Yeah, totally.

The great men and women of law enforcement have been working on this operation for days and days and probably weeks.

You don't know?

You don't know?

Probably weeks.

Do they report to you?

I thought you did.

They should have an exact date when they started.

Yeah, we started this this on this date, and we got

this morning, early this morning, one of the top leaders.

Top.

I love this.

The top leaders, the tippy top, all the way at the top of the pyramid, top leader.

Leaders of MS-13 was apprehended.

He was the leader for the East Coast, one of the top three in the entire country.

Right here in Virginia,

living half an hour outside of Washington, D.C.

He is an illegal alien from El Salvador,

and he will not be living in our country much longer.

He's in custody this morning.

One of the top leaders right here near our nation's capital.

Right there.

He was right there.

One of the top guys.

Hey, listen, the biggest criminals live in Washington.

Okay.

They don't live in Virginia.

But good job.

Good job, everybody.

Just let me do the.

I have a couple signal gay things just to

have the super clip.

I have a super clip.

Yeah, I don't know which one you're talking about.

That's the one with all the Democrats going, how

this is the worst thing that's ever happened to the country since

no, I don't have that one.

Oh,

well, I didn't see because I was looking for super cuts, not super clip.

Super cuts, a haircut.

No, I actually got it.

I thought it would be fun to do a different version of super cut, which,

yeah, we're doing something different.

It's upside-down day here on the No Agenda Show, people.

The Lim Joes are in the house.

They've made a big deal out of this because we've had two perfect months.

The main thing was nothing happened.

The attack was totally successful.

In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information.

I always say you have to learn from every experience.

Hillary's private email scandal, which put our classified information in the reach of our enemies, disqualifies her from the presidency.

This journalist, Mr.

President, wants the world talking about more hoaxes and this kind of nonsense rather than the freedom that you're enabling.

The president's national security advisor sent top-secret emails on an unsecured server that we know our enemies were trying to access.

He was sending back and forth freewheeling, and yet we see nothing there.

My communications, to be clear, in a signal message group were entirely permissible and lawful and did not include classified information.

This was a huge mistake.

Correct?

No.

Mishandling classified information is still a violation of the Espionage Act.

It started with Hillary Clinton.

It has continued without accountability.

Nobody was texting war plans, and that's all I have to say about that.

If there was anyone other than Hillary Clinton, they would be in jail right now.

When you take something out of a skiff, if you're a senator, you know exactly what you're doing.

So I found that super cut.

I thought that was rather entertaining.

Yeah.

You know, but more fun was a trend we have noticed recently amongst Democrats,

affectionately called the delusional Dems.

And it's the cussing.

And so here they have an opportunity.

They have an opportunity to have the upper hand on everything.

I mean, it's just from, because, I mean, politics, truth doesn't matter.

It's just whatever is on X and whatever is being replayed by the media.

But they cannot help themselves.

Here's Adam Schiff.

So tonight I want to talk about Signalgate and what a colossal fuck-up this is in terms of our national security.

Why?

He doesn't need to.

He does a six-minute video, but that's how he starts it off.

That's not good.

And then even Van Jones, I don't know if you have any questions.

I have that.

I have that.

First let's.

Wait, what it was?

First, first, let's, you're jumping the gun.

I always do that.

You're jumping the gun in the sequence.

You I want to go, yeah, yeah, yeah, that means quiet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mayor Pete, lovable, adorable little Mayor Pete, throws a couple bombs.

It's Pete.

I try not to jump in with a take on it.

Hey, by the way, we should start our show.

Hey, it's Pete.

I mean, what does he think is?

Madonna?

Hey, it's Pete.

Hey, it's Pete.

I try not to jump in with a take on everything or comment on everything we see in the news of the day, but what we learned about today is truly incredible.

The U.S.

Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, the Vice President of the United States, and other very senior, very powerful Trump White House officials, it turns out, discussed highly classified war plans, not only on an unclassified channel, but accidentally and randomly, it seems, including a journalist.

And to see this administration claiming that it cares about competence and merit and then be responsible for an epic fuck-up like this demonstrates that these are not serious people.

The kind of intelligence failure calls the question on whether there is any place for merit or competence in this administration at all.

Because if they're not highly serious consequences for this level of screw-up, then it will make clear that all of the bluster about merit that you hear about from this White House is just bullshit.

We deserve so much better than this.

It is getting clearer by the day

that the people in charge of the American government cannot keep the American people safe.

All right, here's the Van Jones remark.

I think that this party is scrambling, trying to seem tough.

And I'm seeing this party traffic in a lot of curse words.

That's supposed to be like the new cool thing to do.

I don't think that that's going to be as useful.

I even heard Pete Budigig

with a whole bunch of curse words.

I don't know who gave that memo.

I don't think that's very useful.

Yeah, so it was a memo.

Clearly, there was a memo that went out.

Van is questioning who gave out the memo.

Is that another Chuck Schumer thing, do you think?

Yeah, that's all talk-tuff.

I think this is organic.

I think it stems from the powers of the president.

I've said this before, that the president sets the moral tone of the country, and it's always been the case.

That's the first thing they teach you in college poly psych classes.

And

so they've given the president gave the go-ahead because he says bullshit all the time.

Yeah, but not the F-word.

I haven't heard of him F-bomb.

No, he, I don't, no.

I think he has, but I don't think it's...

It doesn't.

The way they...

The

main people that do this, of course, are the screaming memes that are on the...

Mimi?

Screaming Mimis?

What kind of...

Screaming Mimis.

What kind of back-handed slap is that at your own school?

This is what they're called.

The screaming memes.

I've never heard of her on the...

It's a great band name, but I've never heard of the screaming memes.

Screaming memes are the people that are on the TikTok and they're screaming and yelling and cussing.

Screaming.

And they're the ones who really set the stage for this, it seems to me.

And now that the fact that the politicians are starting to cuss, this is really.

And they're the ones who bitched and moaned about coarseness.

Oh, coarse.

Oh, Trump is bad because bang is coarse.

If you're going to do that, if you're going to set up yourself by complaining about coarseness and then you start cussing, this is not,

again, this is not a good look.

I do have a couple of insightful clips about this because we're not going to do what everybody else is doing.

I heard,

I was listening to DH Unplugged every Tuesday.

They do it live at 8 o'clock.

We do.

It's also a podcast.

Yes, it is John C.

Dvorak and Andrew Horowitz.

And Horowitz is saying, why does the news always do five stories?

They do five stories stories all day long, five stories.

And then you, and you backed him up by saying, That's what Fox does every single Fox show: five stories, five stories.

And the reason for that is you play the hits, man, when you're in a linear time format.

People aren't watching all day.

You want them to tune in and get the top five stories.

That's what that's about.

Play the hits.

You can't go wrong by playing Madonna.

Yeah, that's probably the only

that's well I remember when I was at Tech TV and we had an old pro that was running one of the guys that was one of the main producers of the whole operation.

He said, and you get a story

that's hot, you just milk it.

Yeah, it's all you do all day is they just go on the story and that's all you play.

Just yak, yak, yak, about the one thing.

I mean, we

shy away from that on this show because it's, I think people are sick of it.

Yeah, who knows?

Unless, I mean, people always

argue about this stuff.

Well, yeah, but we have opinions.

Okay, I'm just going to.

Well, we have different, we also have perspective.

We have a different look at these things.

We are awesome.

That's what we're doing.

We're great.

Here's a backgrounder.

It was the screenshot the world was waiting for.

After members of the now infamous HUTPC small group lined up on Tuesday to insist no classified information was shared on the signal chat, the Atlantic magazine dropped the so-called war plan Pete Hegseth sent to senior intelligence intelligence officials and a journalist from the Atlantic that readers might judge for themselves.

12.15 estimated time F-18's launch first strike package.

1945 trigger-based F-18 first strike window starts.

Target terrorist is at his known location, so should be on time.

Also, strike drones launch MQ-9s.

After the initial strike, the target is identified on signal as the Houthis, quote, top missile guy.

Members of the Signal thread are now saying the Atlantic magazine's editor Jeffrey Goldberg oversold the extent of the breach, among them the Pentagon chief himself.

Nobody's texting war plans.

There's no units, no locations, no routes, no flight paths, no sources, no methods, no classified information.

This, after Goldberg's original article, said the plan included precise information about targets.

but in the hands of foreign intelligence, the messages sent two hours before zero hour would have been an ample tip-off to Houthi command of an impending attack.

You're right about the president setting the tone because not a single person can just say, Yeah, that was dumb.

They don't seem capable of that.

They're like, Yeah, well, we were in a hurry.

We're doing this.

You know, it's an approved thing.

We just threw together a group.

And that was.

This is the era of no apologies.

Yeah, yeah.

Sorry about that, Vax.

No one is going to apologize for everything.

And President Trump, he's still in the middle of the day.

The vax is still on the market.

Of course.

Of course.

I mean, get your eighth booster.

Get your eighth booster.

I did, it was an interesting, because, you know, this journalist is interesting

for a number of reasons.

And then we can talk about what we think happened briefly.

Matt Taibi was on Newsmax.

Newsmax.

He's a top, top guy on Newsmax as a guest.

And here's what he had to say about the Atlantic journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg.

What exactly is Jeffrey Goldberg in your mind?

What do you think of this guy?

Look, a lot of journalists, when Jeffrey Goldberg's name comes up, we all kind of look at each other with a bemused glance.

This is somebody who has a reputation for getting things massively wrong and somehow being

promoted anyway.

He was infamous for getting the WMD story wrong multiple times.

In fact, he won multiple awards for getting that story wrong and somehow still ended up the editor of Atlantic magazine.

So he's a figure of some mystery in the business.

Yeah, that was the Great Terror article in The New Yorker in 2002.

Yeah, he's the one who promoted the

Suckers and Losers story.

Yep.

The John Kelly commentary.

He also did two or three other of these.

He's a spook.

There's got to to be something like that.

I mean, I don't have, I am not looking at his wiki page so I can do a spot to spook analysis, but there's something fishy about, first of all, why is he the guy that ended up on this thing?

The second thing was, is that the

Walls, the national security advisor, says when he went to CIA, I guess, the first thing they gave him is a secure phone that had a signal on it.

And then he talked to some CIA guys about, he talked about this in the testimony.

And they had a communication with somebody there says, Oh, no, don't worry about it.

Everyone's got this.

You know, just use it.

It's fine.

And

then all of a sudden, just Jeffrey Goldberg guy gets on the call.

How'd that happen?

And

of course, nobody can figure out how that happened.

And maybe they will, maybe they won't.

This whole thing is a setup.

Goldberg dropped out of college and worked for a time at the Washington Post because that's where all college dropouts go.

Did you drop out of college?

You're hired, son.

Come on in.

Would he get hired by Woodward?

He then moved to Israel and served in the Israeli Defense Forces during the first Intifada.

He was a prison guard.

There he's on his wiki page?

Yeah, I am.

I am.

He's a.

Oh, can't be trusted.

Dual Israeli citizen.

It's one of those guys.

Can't trust him.

Well, the

any other other spot the spook indicators don't really see anything.

Well, that's actually good.

I mean, it may actually be a real

one.

A real one.

A real one.

He has as opposed to one that's just kind of, you know, sloppy.

Well, because the fact that he's the guy of all the people that ended up on this call, why him?

Well, you know, sometimes

just Occam's razor, sometimes things just happen.

Yeah, but this thing, this sort of thing is anything but Occam's razor.

This is like the opposite.

Well, it's so out there.

No, not really.

I mean, if you're adding, because the whole signal text thread was about adding people to the mix.

Yeah, but you have to have the first you have to have the number in your book.

Oh, yeah.

Well, I mean, you have lots of people's numbers in your book who you wouldn't add to a text chat with me.

I'm sorry.

You have an actual book.

What am I thinking?

You don't have it in your phone.

Actually,

I do have a large address book on Google, and they will move it to my phone every time I get a new Android.

You've gotten one?

Well,

it's not new, but every time you get a different phone, I have different phones over time that end up in the same drawer.

But when you boot it, they demand that you log into

somehow.

You got to log your old account in.

And once you you do that, then they throw a bunch of crap on your phone.

But they're throwing stuff on.

I have phone numbers for people that I don't even know.

And so it's possible.

But again, somehow that number got on that phone, Walz's phone.

Oh, he knows.

Somehow.

No, I'm pretty sure they know each other.

They know each other.

Waltz claims that he doesn't know him.

I don't buy that.

I'm not buying that.

I like what our

Sir

Grantilius of the Great Plains said.

Waltz was working for the Department of Defense as an advisor to Cheney in the Bush days.

Goldberg was publishing work actively supporting the invasion of Iraq.

That's your WMD.

The Cheney gang despises Trump.

Could Goldberg have been invited on purpose?

That's what he said.

That's reasonable.

That's reasonable.

There's a lot of reasonable things that you can.

But who is this?

I think this is, if it's targeted, it's targeted against Hegseth.

Who has the capability?

First of all,

Sigma.

Well,

they really hate Hegseth.

Yes.

And Hegseth has responded very poorly.

He's not good at this.

No.

You'd think he'd be better because he's media savvy.

He's so defensive and

this bullcrap.

That guy is a, that guy's no good.

No, to say Hagseth plays too much of a tough character.

Yeah.

He's a tough guy.

They push him into this position where he's got to be kind of assertive

and he doesn't have experience in a large bureaucracy, so he's a little sensitive about that.

And so he's in a position where

he can get shook.

And so far, you know, I think Trump likes him.

I think he probably could do the job if they don't, but they're going to try to shake him out of there.

I think he has to go.

Out of all this, they're not going to stop.

and if this was a target targeted thing then it was to get to make hegseth look bad because it was hegseth who's sitting there going like we got the cue we got the reaper drones we're going to kill this guy

and the thing the thing that's kind of sick about it all

is the jubilee and like yay american flag emoji punching fist emoji fire emoji we killed him yeah that was a mistake of course but that's how that's how these people are that's probably how most people are.

But it's always.

Yeah, we're number one, foam finger.

Yeah, it's always a little jarring.

I mean, to me, that was the jarring thing.

I mean, not that

this was.

And

clearly, clearly

the timing of this and how much time there was before the Reaper drones and whatever else they were planning.

Clearly, that would have been enough to alert people.

Here's my question, though.

This is the thing, this is the part I understand, and this is where it smells of a setup.

If this is you or I, and we get added to some awesome text group, and on this text group, it's it's podcasters, it's Megan Kelly, it's Dan Bongino.

Oh, no, he's no longer a podcaster, uh, it's Tucker Carlson, they have like this pod, the top, top, top podcasters group.

I would not be removing myself.

I was brought up on Gutfeld by

one of the contestants.

Who does that?

I forgot who was, but one of them said, Why would you out yourself if you're going to end up on these groups?

Because you could, as a journalist in particular, because you're like the fly on the now, you're a fly on the wall.

Yes.

Why wouldn't you want to continue to be the fly on the wall as long as you can?

And you just build up and build up.

Do you remember?

Do you remember back?

Well, you still have one.

Back in the landline days, if you called someone on a landline, you know, the thing that's on the wall, And

the other person didn't.

No, how did it work?

It was like

there was a thing where you could keep listening.

I mean, if the other person doesn't hang up, and there was something where this happened, there was a couple of, there were some situations with, well, first of all, when I was in France for the first time in 73.

Getting your hair cut by Pierre?

Yes.

That's when you had to always go to the postal office to make calls.

It was very strange to do an overseas call.

You had to go to the post office.

And it was a postal tele telephone post office.

This is where PPT.

But the phones that if people did have a phone

in their house,

when you hung up, it didn't hang up anything.

Yes.

So you could stay on the line and when the other person hung up, you hear the click, but the phone was still live for a good five minutes.

This is what I'm talking about.

I remember this.

There was something like that that went on in this country, too, but it wasn't quite the same mechanism.

It was something else.

No, I think I remember.

I remember it, too, because I remember people hanging up, and then I could still hear it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And

what you did was you didn't hang up and say, oh, I hope I don't hear anything I shouldn't be hearing.

No.

You're listening.

Well, that's like being on the party line.

Yeah.

Yes.

Which

when I was a real little kid and I was on the party line all the time, and I've talked about this on the show before, and I got caught a couple of times by the girl because she'd be talking to her boyfriend.

I'm listening in at this, these two cooing over each other and she caught me somehow.

I don't know what to do.

Well,

here's a modern day example.

Let's move it out of Boomerland.

Butt dial.

When someone butt dials you and you hear

you don't hang up and go, oh, butt dial.

No.

Let me hear what you're doing.

What you do,

you listen unless you can, you listen for at least a little while, but if it's, if it's, you know, it's obviously you're not going to hear anything because you can tell by the nature of the butt dial because you can't hear, you just hear rustling, and then you hang up.

But otherwise, yeah, you listen a little bit if you can hear anything.

But if you don't hear anything, you don't listen.

So, so it doesn't make sense that this guy outed himself.

He would remove himself.

And he's got nothing, and his story was a nothing burger.

You use nothing burger.

You heard it.

Yeah, it basically

wasn't really anything.

He just was there to humiliate Hank Seth.

So, and Walz to a lesser extent.

Well, Waltz is under attack.

So people are now combing through Waltz, and they find out that his official ex-account, he's following a gay porn star

known as Big Dick Bottom.

A black guy.

A black guy.

Really?

Yeah.

I didn't catch that.

And then he unfollowed him quick.

Yeah, I would imagine.

Sorry, not porn star, an adult content creator.

I'm sorry.

And by the way, I will say this, so that could be

planted.

Oh, yeah.

Easy.

Hey, let me see your phone for a sec.

You know, who do I know that does that?

Who did things?

Yes, John C.

Dvorak.

Give me your phone for a second.

And you boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, switch it to Korean.

And it would be impossible to find your way back to

turn off the Korean.

Yeah, you have to do a lot of research to figure out how to do it.

That was one of your major gags.

Come on, people.

It's a horrible gag.

It's just as horrible.

So,

yeah,

my feeling is this is the first major chink in the Heg Seth armor.

And that was the intent.

Also, it was

from the account from Goldberg, it was Waltz who added him to K Seth.

Now, that can, I don't, Signal doesn't send out invitations, as far as I know.

I was surprised, just as an aside, that Signal is an approved encrypted messaging app for the U.S.

government.

Do you know that

the chairman of the Signal board is a foundation that runs

the woman?

She is the head of NPR.

No, she's gone, but I think, didn't the woman from Blue Cry also come?

No, the woman from NPR still runs it because they, here, here's the clip.

They talk about it.

I think I have one of the secrets.

I have a couple of her clips.

No, I have the disclaimer.

Okay.

Wow.

Yeah, Wow is right.

You sure you have it?

I know I have it.

I just don't know what it's called.

Breach Story Weird NPR?

Should we try that one?

What is it?

Breach Story Weird NPR.

Oh, yeah, that could be it.

The fallout fallout continues from the revelation.

Senior Trump administration officials somehow added a journalist to a signal group chat in which they discussed secret plans for military strikes in Yemen.

At a White House hearing today, Democrats disputed the administration's claims the information wasn't classified and called for people to be held accountable.

Here's NPR's Ryan Lucas.

Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee pushed Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe for answers, particularly after the full group chat chain was made public by The Atlantic.

It showed Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth texting details on timing, weapons, and attack sequencing of the U.S.

airstrikes in Yemen.

Here's Colorado Democrat Jason Crowe.

Nobody is willing to come to us and say this was wrong.

This was a breach of security, and we won't do it again.

Crow, who is a former U.S.

Army Ranger, said the refusal to accept responsibility is outrageous and a leadership failure, and he called on Defense Secretary Pete Hagseth to resign.

Ryan Lucas, NPR News, Washington.

NPR CEO Catherine Barr chairs the board of the Signal Foundation, the nonprofit that supports the app.

That's not the lady who was in Congress, though.

Yeah.

No.

Her name is.

I don't think that's her name.

No, there were two ladies in Congress.

Hold on a second.

It's NPR News, Washington.

NPR CEO Catherine Barr chairs the board of the Signal Foundation.

The other lady, Catherine.

Catherine, that's her March or March or March or

there are two ladies from NPR called Catherine?

Marr.

Marr.

Did he say Marr?

I think it's

Washington.

NPR CEO Catherine Marr chairs the board of Marr.

Marsh Marr.

Okay.

Oh, interesting.

Well, what is she doing that for?

Well, that makes it all very suspicious.

I thought it was very suspicious the first time I heard that.

And that's one of the few times that they actually ran the.

You're going to grill me in Congress.

Watch this.

Can I play a couple of those clips?

I thought those were kind of interesting.

I would like you to play them.

I didn't get any of those clips.

I love those clips.

The thing is, they don't have, it was funny to listen to.

I will say this.

I was almost going to take this, but then I was thinking, well, I won too many Jesse Waters analysis.

It's not going to be a good idea.

Oh, do you have more today?

I have none.

Oh, good.

But Jesse Waters had some of the best of the clips.

And then when you played him up against the long version,

longer exposition on PBS News Hour.

There was no comparison.

The water stuff was far superior.

Well, I focused really on one thing, and that's the money, because that's what it was about.

It's about

do we continue to fund the national public radio?

Where does the money go?

And the kicker is, oh, well, the government doesn't really have, it only gives maybe 1% of the total and doesn't mean a lot.

And oh, who cares?

We need this money.

Okay, I guess I don't need to play the clips.

You did it again.

What?

You went straight to the kicker.

But that's just what you set me up for it.

You've got to do a better job of blocking.

I'm going to play Catherine Maher.

Be quiet.

I understand the subcommittee has questions about funding for NPR and public radio.

The vast majority of federal dollars, more than $100 million of the $121 million annual appropriation for public radio, goes directly to 386 local, non-commercial stations across the nation.

This highly efficient investment enables your local stations to raise an average of $7 for every federal dollar.

As a grantee of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, NPR received federal funding of $11.2 million last year.

These funds allow us to maintain the national public radio satellite system,

helping safeguard our national security, civil defense, and disaster response, and enabling public radio to reach every corner of America.

Additionally, these funds help protect journalists covering our troops overseas and reverse the decline of local journalism.

So people don't really understand how NPR works.

They're all independent stations.

They have to do their own fundraising.

The problem is

they basically can't create much of their own local content.

I mean, even KUT in Austin,

remember when we had Snow Apocalypse?

They were playing fresh air with Terry Gross.

They have to buy the programming.

And

that's where a lot of the money goes because it's commercial companies making the majority of this content.

It's not like

government employees.

All of this comes through the PRX, the public radio exchanges,

the public, what is it, the public media.

I forget the name of the group.

So really, the only thing that makes it a network is explained here.

I'd like to spend the rest of my time talking about funding.

This is Jack, Representative Jack from Georgia.

I know that some of my colleagues talked about it a little bit today, but could you walk us through the amount of money that NPR receives from CPB annually?

Yes, sure, sir.

We receive $11.2 million this past year, the majority of which goes to the public radio satellite system, which we operate on behalf of the entire public radio network.

We also received a smaller amount of funding.

Let's just stop there.

The PRSS, the public radio satellite system, is an anachronism.

This thing should immediately be shot out of the sky.

I think there's still one show that broadcasts live, the morning edition, maybe all things considered,

is a live stream from the satellite, which, of course, we could do much cheaper with a Starlink dish.

That would work in case of an emergency.

But you could still do it.

I mean, we've had T1 lines for a long time.

And what all these, it's a very expensive, very antiquated system where they, in essence, download WAV files of programming.

That's the incredible importance of that

$11 million.

And of course,

Catherine Marr's salary and whatever else

they do with that.

But

that thing is absolutely not necessary.

But I don't think any of these people in Congress actually understand what NPR is or how it works.

We also received a smaller amount of funding in the course of the past year that went to help us hire those additional editors and analysts in order to be able to beef up that editorial review.

We received funding to support the coverage of the recent election in order to make sure that we had our journalists all across the country and were able to speak to Americans of all different political backgrounds.

And what percentage of your budget share comes from the federal government?

Depending on how you count it, sir, it is

less than 5%.

And to help me understand, too, the CPB, you know, as I understand it,

Congress has appropriated $500 million to CPB.

It flows out, and I think smaller radio stations go and apply for grants for it.

$500 million for CPB,

which includes PBS?

What else does that include?

It includes a lot of those little stations who have to give the money back.

I mean, the whole thing is something of a Ponzi scheme.

Do you receive payment from smaller radio stations through licensing agreements and things of that nature?

We do, and the fees for that are

designed around the amount of.

What do you mean, designed?

The fees are designed.

And of course,

Jack is only out to get her to stick it to her like everybody else.

No follow-up questions on that.

Are

designed around the amount of funding that they get from private member donations.

So it's not, the fees are not designed around federal funding.

How is a fee designed?

I mean, a fee is a fee.

So

is it based upon how many people listen?

Is it based on how much money you raise?

This makes no sense.

They get money to keep the stations on the air.

That's expensive.

And then the fees are designed somehow?

Designed.

What I'm trying to say is that if the larger markets have to pay more money

around

the amount of funding.

It's like newspaper syndicates.

If you're a small town paper with 100,000 cirque, you're not paying the same amount for the Dilbert cartoon as somebody with 250,000 cirque designed around the amount of funding that they get from private member donations.

So it's not, the fees are not designed around federal funding.

They're designed around what sort of direct private support and donations they receive from members and listeners.

Well, they're basing it on, she's saying that they based it on how much they get.

So, how much did you raise?

$2 million.

Oh, your fee is.

I don't think that's right.

I don't know what she's talking about.

She's just rambling.

I mean, I think she'd maybe just be snowing the guy.

Well, here's the real question, and this came from Jack as well.

Could NPR survive without the 5% that we give NPR annually?

My belief is that the funding is essential to the public radio system, and that is the 246 member stations, but the 1,300 stations across the nation, so that we're able as a network to serve all Americans with 100% coverage.

This is a snowjob what she's saying right here.

Yes.

There is no substance to what she's saying.

She's not answering the question.

Federal funding for our network goes away.

It means that people in rural parts of America, places where they can't afford to make private donations to support their local journalism, those will be harmed.

But, sorry, if I may, the bigger harm as well, or the additional harm, is that Americans in places that are affluent or do have many media choices

will not be able to hear from their fellow Americans that are often under her.

She says something very interesting.

At first, I misheard her, but she's saying, What I think she's saying here is rich people who've got a lot of choice won't be able to hear the poor suckers out in the sticks.

Tell me I'm wrong.

Americans in places that

are the bigger harm as well, or the additional harm, is that Americans in places that are affluent or do have many media choices will not be able to hear from their fellow Americans that are often underheard.

Isn't that what she's saying?

You won't hear from the poor people without us.

That's exactly what she's saying.

I don't know how

else could that mean.

So, NPR.

So, the rich people are going to suffer.

Yes.

They're going to suffer horribly.

That's exactly what she's saying.

If they don't give the little people some money so the little people can speak up, because the little people don't have a voice without the government money.

So you bastards in the government, you better give the little people some money because

you're shutting them down.

Have you ever heard of X or Facebook?

Little people have a voice these days, ladies.

But Americans in places that are affluent or do have many media choices will not be able to hear from their fellow Americans that are often underheard.

And you're an NPR guy.

Please make sure that next time you hear some poor people who aren't heard, make sure that if they're ever on NPR, you clip it.

Because usually I only hear douchebags.

It's all douchebags.

It's all douchebags.

Bottom line: if the 5% went away, would NPR still exist?

Well, it would be incredibly damaging to the federal, to the, excuse me, to the national public radio system.

Well, this is why I say five-way.

So, in other words, 5%

goes to the poor suckers.

The 5% is going to be incredibly damaging because

despite what we do, we can't make up 5%

of

that funding.

We can't find some other way of doing it.

We can't open up gates of hell of advertising.

We can't do anything.

That 5% is all there is to it.

That was the question.

That was the question.

Something is wrong with that answer.

So instead, we just hounded her.

It is fun to listen to this.

This was the Brandon Representative Brandon Gill,

who did exactly what they're doing to

National Security Advisor Waltz.

Let's comb through your tweets and embarrass you.

It's interesting because a lot of your thinking, as expressed by your publication.

Hold on, can you stop for a second?

Yeah.

It's John Kennedy, the guy from Louisiana, I think is the guy who perfected this technique in Congress.

Oh, he has his own YouTube channels.

And you don't even know how old it is.

I mean, it's evergreen, the stuff he does.

Yeah, he has nothing but

show business.

Did you write this tweet?

Let me just get it straight.

And then you read the, is that something you actually wrote?

And she says, well, I think so.

Well, you would know.

I'm reading right from it.

He goes on and on.

This guy did a pretty good job.

It's interesting because a lot of your thinking, as expressed by your public statements, is deeply infused with economic and cultural Marxism.

Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy?

I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier, I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade.

I've evolved as a whole.

I've evolved as a human being.

She said over the last half decade.

I know that's not a great way.

You mean five years?

It was only four, actually, to be honest, if you look at the number.

But it's four years ago.

She wrote that.

Well, she's good.

Oh, you know,

everything's evolved over the last half, the last half a decade.

that's amazing you mean during the biden administration

earlier i believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade it has evolved why did you tweet that i don't recall the exact context sir so i wouldn't be able to say okay do you believe that america believes in black plunder and white democracy i don't believe that sir

you tweeted that in reference to a book you were reading at the time apparently the case for reparations i don't think i've ever read that book sir this is my best this is the best one you were reading a book or you tweeted about this book i don't think i've read that book sir i don't think i read that book in the last half decade you tweeted about it you said you took a day off to fully read the case for reparations that on twitter in january of 2020.

so she's a liar of course she didn't read the book she didn't read white fragility either

just virtue signaling i have a couple clips coming up later in the show that also do you use this trick.

When you say half, I'm thinking about this half-decade thing.

The first thing that

if you're calculating that in your mind,

that's 50 years.

Because when you think of it, when you say half, half is always at 0.5.

So it's 0.5, decade, 10.

You multiply, in your brain, you multiply it.

And so it says,

the last half decade, it really, I think subconsciously, it sounds like 50 years.

I think it's a very tricky NLP.

I think it's an NLP trick.

And it gives you the sense that it's a long time.

Well, she also slipped in their federal public radio, which I thought was interesting.

She's good.

Yeah, she knows.

Yeah.

Spook.

She may be a spook.

What's her name again?

Catherine Maher.

Maher.

Maher.

Said you took a day off to fully read the case for reparations.

You put that on Twitter in January of 2020.

I apologize.

I don't recall that I did.

I'd no doubt that your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall that.

Do you believe that white people inherently feel superior to other races?

This is great.

This is your virtue signaling coming back and slapping you in the face like a wet salmon.

People inherently feel superior to other races?

I do not.

You don't?

You tweeted something to that effect.

You said, I grew up feeling superior.

Ha, how white of me.

Why did you tweet that?

I think I was probably reflecting on what it was to be,

to grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages.

So that's a racist statement right there.

Because you were white, that means that you had lots of advantages.

Have you seen?

What about those poor schlubs who need 5% to listen to NPR, to create content for NPR so the rich people can hear it?

Okay,

let me stop you for a second.

After high school, Marr graduated from the Arabic Language Institute.

Oh, yeah, we went to

an intensive program at the American University of Cairo in 2003.

She recalled a formative experience and she developed her interest in the Middle East.

What's she doing here?

Marr also studied at the Institut Francais.

And she was in Damascus.

She was in Syria.

She spent time in Lebanon and Tunisia.

I'm reminded of a meeting I had with the economic hitman for lunch one time.

He says,

my entire family says, don't take Arabic because they're all CIA spooks.

He said, Don't take Arabic because you'll be stuck in the Middle East.

No, you want to Mandarin.

From 2007 to 2010, she was at UNICEF.

Then she was at the National Democratic Institute as an ICT program officer, worked at the World Bank.

She worked at Twitter,

DC-based Access Now Operation Advocacy.

This woman's

Wikipedia Foundation.

She was the communications officer there.

Mary, there's one thing after, this is an unbelievable bio.

U.S.

State Department Foreign Affairs Policy Board

worked with Clinton, Secretary with Hillary.

She's just unbelievable.

Well, this leads me to believe that Signal is not a safe app.

That leads me to believe the exact same thing.

Or it's just a backdoor operation.

I was probably reflecting on what it was.

You know, you could have probably, you know, talking about that, it's possible that

they just slip Jeffrey in and nobody really put him on the call at all.

Very suspicious.

And this woman is extremely suspicious.

To grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages.

It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior.

I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir.

I was just reflecting on my own experiences.

You think that white people should pay reparations?

I have never said that, sir.

Yes, you did.

You said it in January of 2020.

You tweeted.

Yes, the North.

Yes, all of us.

Yes, America.

Yes, our original collective sin and unpaid debt.

Yes, reparations.

Yes, on this day.

I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.

What kind of reparations was it a reference to?

I think it was just a reference to the idea that we all owe much to the people who came before us.

That's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted.

And he went on and on and on and on.

But that was entertaining.

Yeah, of course.

But she was slick.

I watched her.

She was calm, cool, and collected.

Yeah.

I mean, in regards to

Signal, that's a little troubling.

I wonder why she well, maybe on the other hand, maybe that's exactly why it is sanctioned for use within the government, which I learned.

I didn't know that.

I didn't think that they could use

their private phones for anything that had a government business.

How about the then we have the National Archive Act and all kinds of stuff that you have to,

no matter what has been discussed, has to be archived somewhere?

Yeah, supposedly.

Yeah.

So

someone needs to fess up or someone needs to go.

And I think that Heg Seth is one more gaffe away

from

yes, you're right.

One more gaffe, he's done.

Yeah.

So

I like him, but the way he responded, did not like him.

Thought that was very, very poor.

Yeah, it was very poor.

He's not using his resources.

Use your words, Pete.

No, I'm talking about, you know, there are people, the Pentagon has something like 27 to 60,000 public relations specialists.

I mean, that many people, so they can just hound the media.

And they have people there that could that, how should I respond to this?

A meeting could take place with with 10 of the top people

and they would give him

the marching orders.

I think they're cut him off.

I wonder if

this could have been a Pegasus type deal where someone basically just controls your phone

and

can remotely add someone to a signal chat.

Watch this.

That seems more likely.

That wouldn't surprise me.

By the way,

Tina's out of town.

She's

Indiana visiting her mom.

And so that gives me an opportunity to watch stuff that, you know, how you don't know per se, but we're sitting at home and I'm surfing through the Netflix and I'm like, hey, let's watch this.

And I'm like, oh, no, that is Robert De Niro in it.

I hate him.

Which, by the way, I'm like, yeah, you're right.

So I watched Zero Day.

which is starring De Niro and

he plays the president, ex-president of the United States.

Very good movie.

And it deals a lot with

what can happen with phones and apps and even more delightful how

the circumvention is.

Everyone gets around

all of these things when they're doing something nefarious.

How do the bad guys communicate?

How?

Ham radio, baby.

Ham radio.

That's when the story.

Well, you know, De Niro was also in Wag the the Dog.

Which was a fantastic movie.

Which is another fantastic movie.

He was great until he had to pull his own documentary out of the Tribeca Film Festival about how his kid got autism, and he thought it was from vaccines.

And then they were like, you'll never make another movie in this town again, De Niro.

Oh, okay.

Do you remember that?

Oh, that was during the show.

That information has been lost on the show.

No, that was during the show.

Yeah, he pulled from his own film festival.

He pulled the documentary.

Oh, no, there's not enough evidence about this.

I've decided to pull this documentary.

That's when he went sour.

Come on, man.

Taxi driver.

Was he in taxi driver?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So.

Well, what else we got in this regard?

Well, I don't think much else.

I mean, we'll just see what happens, but we need to keep an eye on Heg Seth because I think he's on deck.

Yeah, that's what it looks like.

They're not letting up on this.

You got a top MS-13 guy?

Who cares?

SignalGate.

You're going to put 25% tariff on all cars coming into America?

Who cares?

SignalGate?

Who cares?

Nobody cares.

Everybody wants it.

Get some veterans.

Well, I fought in the war and people I know died because of intelligence mess-ups.

So cynical.

All this stuff.

I hate mainstream media.

So let's go to the car tariffs.

Okay.

I have the BBC.

I have a series.

These are all spelled C-A-E

and tariff is misspelled.

I usually correct these words.

Rayifs.

You got K-Rayefs.

I thought K-Raye was a lady that I was very interested when I saw your clips come in.

People would have to know.

John sends me clips.

I don't listen to them.

I just look at the titles to know, okay, maybe I don't need a whole series of clips here because if there's something about K

Rariffs in the news, I don't need a clip on it.

It was a typo.

And apparently she's the one who's

blurry.

So we start with the now.

My vision was blurry.

Do you drive?

This is not the analysis clips.

Yeah, this is the

now, just the BBC straight up.

Is this World Service?

Yeah, BBC World Service.

And now another series of clips from the BBC World Service.

President Trump has announced a 25% tariff on all cars imported into the United States from the 2nd of April.

He claimed the measure would spur growth in the U.S.

car industry and create jobs and investment.

Our North America business correspondent Erin Delmore reports.

President Trump said the new tariffs would bring car and truck production back to the U.S.

and generate billions of dollars in revenue.

Mr.

Trump made clear that the new tariffs are permanent and not a negotiating tactic designed to extract concessions from America's trade partners.

But determining which vehicles are made in America can be complicated, particularly when it comes to America's closest neighbors, Mexico and Canada.

The new taxes will immediately hit millions of foreign-made cars sold in the U.S.

each year.

The move is poised to send a shock through the industry with potential for higher prices, lower supply, and lower production.

Shares of the U.S.'s big three automakers fell in after-hours trading.

Hmm, okay.

Well, shaking things up.

I don't know why the prices would fall because you think these guys, the U.S.

automakers, would benefit, but I guess the only car that's actually made here is Tesla.

Yeah, the rest of them are made for parts from everywhere.

Isn't there a carve-out for parts?

No, not yet.

Yeah, I think you're wrong.

Well, they've been talking about it.

I listened to this morning.

I was watching

Outnumbered,

and they had Charles Payne on as the dude, because there's a bunch of women and one guy.

And that's why it's called Outnumbered.

And he went on about it, and they talked about the car parts carve-out, and and it was like it was still unsettled.

Ah, well, I'm just going to interrupt, and then we'll get back to your BBC anal clips.

This is French.

I know what it says.

This production line in Japan is churning out Toyota cars, many of them destined for the U.S.

In a week's time, they'll be subject to a punishing 25% tariff, prompting the government to plea for an exclusion.

We have again strongly urged the U.S.

government to exclude Japan from the scope of these measures.

Other top suppliers hit hard by the tax are Canada, Mexico, Germany, and South Korea.

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney called it a direct attack on the country's workers.

We will defend our workers.

We will defend

our companies.

We will defend

our country.

Currently, half the cars sold in the U.S.

are American-made, and industry experts say the move could increase prices per car by thousands of dollars and impact jobs.

President Donald Trump says it will revitalize American industry.

And we're going to

charge

countries for doing business in our country and taking our jobs, taking our wealth.

After a 25% duty on steel and aluminium, this is Trump's latest move to Renegue on a trade deal he struck in his first term with Mexico and Canada.

The new tariff applies to cars and light trucks.

Auto parts that comply with the 2019 deal will remain tariff-free for now.

There you go.

Yeah.

I don't think that's correct.

Oh, it's France 24.

How could you doubt the French?

Yeah, I don't think they know what they're talking about.

All right, okay.

So let's go with the analysis clips.

These should be fairly short.

Here, to make sense of that announcement, is our North of America correspondent Aaron Delmo.

Clearest way through it is to think of it as a 25% tariff on all cars not made in the United United States and no tariffs on cars made in the United States.

He also made a mention that Americans would be able to deduct interest payments on their car loans from their taxes if their cars are made in America.

You know, to me, one of the big things that stood out is he said he's not budging.

He said that these tariffs are permanent and that he's not putting this forward as a negotiating tactic to try to get concessions from America's trade partners in future tariff negotiations.

He said this is permanent.

We are going to bring domestic production, domestic manufacturing of cars and trucks back to the United States.

What about car parts coming into the U.S.?

Is there any clarification yet as whether they may face import duties as well?

Because that would be significant, wouldn't it?

Absolutely.

Here's why it would be significant.

Car parts can come in from foreign suppliers, but they also are made in Mexico and Canada as well, and then cross borders into the United States into U.S.

production facilities for cars that look to be U.S.

made.

They look and purport to be American-made cars, but perhaps within the cars there are not American-made parts, those are foreign-made parts.

And so now the question, yes, is: will they be tariffed?

The best indication and reporting we have now is that the answer to that question is yes.

It is.

Yes, that appears to be the case.

Well, there goes my Corinthian leather.

Another boomer joke.

I'm easing into it.

You're getting worse.

I'm easing into it.

I'm starting to like it.

The old-timers that listen to this show must get a kick out of us.

Someone, hopefully, somewhere does.

Well, the kids don't.

You're going, what the fuck are these guys talking about?

So here we go with clip two.

This announcement.

I mean, we are used to lots of tariff announcements.

This seems a pretty serious one because Donald Trump has clearly said he's not going to withdraw these tariffs.

Absolutely.

And it's a really interesting line in the sand.

And listening to Mark Carney there, you know, having spent a lot of time in Canada, you know, the Canadian auto sector is hugely reliant.

This is, you know, hundreds of thousands of jobs, billions of dollars.

So I'm very significant.

But I think around the world, now it's not going to affect Australia.

We don't make any cars anymore, haven't for quite some time.

So it won't have an impact directly in that way.

But, you know, these things have a tendency of having a big ripple effect, right?

and

across other sectors and you know the steel aluminium um tariffs that will be coming on to australia already there's shaking the chain on on drugs and medicines um that's something australia provides a lot of medicines to the us and brings a lot of in we have a a free medicines uh policy or program uh for lots of australians rely on the government to buy uh for no cost or low-cost medicines ireland's also worried about it so um but i mean i don't know can he really have a permanent tariff?

I don't know.

I don't know whether that's possible.

I would imagine

unless he intends to be the permanent president, I wouldn't think there'd be permanent tariffs, but I don't know.

And I don't think we should be

predicting too much at this point.

Stephanie, it is a complicated issue,

tariffs here, because the global car industry operates in so many different parts of the world.

So you're sitting there in your office and you're like, oh, yeah,

I got to do this.

I got to get that laugh extra, extra kooky.

We do work for you people.

What was it?

Shaking the chain.

I like that.

Shaking the chain.

This whole thing is because

this is a non-significant or a quite significant

idea that he thinks he's going to do.

The global.

You start to realize when you start hearing these analysis, especially the moaning and groaning that takes place from everyone.

Oh, the Australians, now they're worried about this and that.

And oh, the Canadians think it's all about them.

You realize that the intake, the globalist entanglements have been set up so well

that it's like, wow, these guys, this is Trump is not going to pull this off.

I think he's going to pull it off.

Oh, I think he will.

Oh, I definitely think he will.

And I'll tell you why after your clips.

Okay.

All right.

And onward.

Around 50% of cars sold in the U.S.

are imported.

It is the world's biggest importer of cars.

About 22% of those imports in 2024 came from Mexico.

Juan Carlos Baker Peneda, of course, familiar voice on this program, is Mexico's former vice minister for

foreign trade, currently a researcher at the Pan American University in Mexico City.

Quiters, hello, Juan Carlos.

I am.

You know, there's a lot going on in the world and a lot of confusion about many things.

You're in Mexico.

Yeah.

Yes.

What do you make of this decision?

It could have a huge impact on the car industry there.

I love this.

You're in Mexico.

Yes, yes, I'm going to tell them in Mexico.

Yes, absolutely.

The consequences of this are not entirely clear right now.

But as you say, the impact on this is very significant because cars represent the largest export of Mexico to the United States.

It also represents a significant, sizable contribution of the GDP.

Anywhere between 8% and 9% of Mexico's GDP somehow is connected to the automotive industry.

So the fact that these tariffs are announced, the fact that President Trump seems to have no regard whatsoever for the USMCI and its rules, well, clearly is very disturbing.

Right now, today, the Minister of the Economy, Secretary Marcelo Evrad, and his team are in Washington, and it has been reported that they will be having meetings tonight and tomorrow with the people of President Trump's cabinet, the Secretary of Commerce.

And well, clearly, something something has to be worked out because if the tariffs are imposed as the president suggests, well, the impact on Mexico is going to be significant.

And it's going to change the mood, I would say, Rojo, between Mexico and the United States right now.

And the relationship as it is is going through some tense moments.

And this clearly is not going to help at all.

Go on and on.

And so let's go to the last clip, which is, I think, another.

So we have the Mexicans complaining, the Australians complaining.

I don't know why they're complaining.

The Canadians complaining, the Europeans come, everyone's complaining.

Because they believe he's serious, and I think he is.

Let us hear a couple of more voices now.

Firstly, here's Glenn Stevens.

He's executive director of Detroit-based industry, auto industry group, Mitch Auto.

He told me these tariffs are bad news for the industry and customers.

We don't see any positives in the short term.

We had anticipated this.

The president had signaled this, but about half of the vehicles sold in the United States every year are imported, 7.68 million last year.

So this is a significant shock to the system.

We also have steel and aluminum tariffs.

We have China tariffs, now reciprocal and now these tariffs.

The cost of the vehicle, the input cost will go up.

We expect anywhere from $3,000 to $10,000, depending on the transaction price of the vehicle, that will increase.

And in the U.S., a vehicle already costs $49,000 to purchase new on average.

So it's already at an all-time high.

We're concerned about this.

We have a lot of questions right now tonight that we're trying to sort through.

What's the top one on your list that you're going to try and answer?

Which is the one you're struggling with at the most at the moment?

Is you try and make sense to you?

Yeah, the number one issue is are vehicles from Canada and Mexico, because of the existing USMCA agreement, are they included in this?

It appears that they are, but we don't have confirmation of that.

And that is a big situation, particularly for the companies based in Michigan, Ford, GM, and Stellantis.

So, just to give you an idea,

and actually, one of our producers just posted that

in the troll room.

In the Netherlands,

you have

something called BPM,

which is a

special tax for

cars.

And if you do the math,

a

let me see, a Ford Mustang, which costs, what is it, $35,000, $40,000

in the Netherlands, $120,000 after the VAT, the BPM, the climate tax, all that stuff is put on.

But BPM is just a made-up number.

It's like, oh, well, you know,

we got to tax you for that.

So Trump is not wrong.

No, I think he's correct.

And when you look at

what I'm saying is not, I'm not complaining about his correctness or his righteousness about this.

I'm complaining,

not complaining, but I'm suggesting that the entanglements are so broad-based that it's going to be almost impossible to actually

make any of this work.

But

this is the hill he's going to die on.

This has been his thing

for 30, 40 years, he's been talking about about forever.

So now he has the opportunity and he means it and he's trying to brand it, but he's not doing a very good job.

Well, I may give a lot of countries breaks, but it's reciprocal.

But we might be even nicer than that.

You know, we've been very nice to a lot of countries for a long time, but I call it Liberation Day.

April 2nd is Liberation Day.

But today, as you know, we did something with respect to Venezuela.

You heard about that.

And that will be quite important.

We'll be announcing announcing some additional tariffs over the next few days, having to do with automobiles, cars, and having also to do a little bit with lumber down the road, lumber and

chips.

Chips.

We're going to get all those chip companies coming back.

They're already coming back without even doing it, so it's been very good.

But we'll be announcing some others.

But for the most part, April 2nd will be a big day.

That'll be reciprocal day.

And we'll be bringing some of the money back that's been taken from us.

Let's be nice by using the word taken.

I don't want to use a stronger word because these guys are professional politicians, and they don't like to hear those words.

I refuse to use the word stolen from us.

So it's Liberation Day.

It's reciprocal day.

I don't know what day it is.

It's April 2nd.

He needs some words.

Well, that's what you mean by he's not brand new.

No, no.

I mean, Liberation, if you're going to do Liberation Day, you need a media package.

You need some memes out there on the internet of people with big F-250s and Mustangs cruising around.

Yeah, it could be coordinated better, not to mention.

Much better.

There's really no, he's sticking with this, you know, running a million miles an hour, but not really coordinating anything in such a way that you have a big splash that goes from one thing to another.

Yeah, so instead he has a very small announcement.

Today we're delighted to report that Hyundai is announcing a major $5.8 billion investment in American manufacturing.

In particular, Hyundai will be building a brand new steel plant in Louisiana, which will produce more than 2.7 million metric tons of steel a year, creating more than 1,400 jobs for American steel workers, and then there'll be major expansion after that.

This will be Hyundai's first ever steel mill in the United States, one of the largest companies in the world, by the way, supplying steel for its auto parts and auto plants in Alabama and Georgia, which will soon produce more than one million American-made cars every single year.

Boom!

The cars are coming into this country at levels never seen before.

Get ready.

This investment is a clear demonstration that tariffs very strongly work, and I hope

other things also, but the tariffs are bringing them in at levels that have not been witnessed.

So a million American cars.

Well, I mean, everyone's going to buy an American car if you're going to buy a car, or American-made car, I should say.

That part will work, especially if you get if you're allowed to deduct the interest on your car loan.

Whoa.

Now you're talking.

But that's a Congress thing.

That's not an executive order, is it?

That's a tax thing.

Yeah, which is Congress.

I would say

the problem is we don't, you know, with half the cars being imported until these reports came out, I didn't realize that half of our, in other words, our own automotive industry can't even keep up with the Toyota

and BMW and all the people that ship cars into this country.

So half of them are imported.

They'd have to double production of American cars, which they're not going to be able to do.

You can't just double production

overnight.

And I think one thing that's going to happen is the used car market is going to heat up again.

Yeah,

exactly.

I'm like, I'm not driving my car.

I'm keeping my miles.

But I'll need a a car.

That's the problem.

Yeah, you need a car.

Do you have wind chimes in your studio now all of a sudden?

Oh,

this is those things in the back.

It's funny.

You know, I don't understand how that mic can pick this up.

It's my ears.

Well, I don't think anyone else can.

That's the chat room.

I'm going to

bring these.

Trolls, do you hear the chimes?

Now I'm ringing them loud.

Yeah, well, you hear that for sure.

Well, not necessarily.

That's on the back side of the mic.

Everybody hears it.

Everybody hears it.

They all hear that.

Yeah, they all hear it.

Yes.

It's disappointing.

It must be reflective.

That could be it.

Of course, one of the hottest car manufacturers right now is certainly not American.

BYD sales last year surpassed the $100 billion mark, beating rival Tesla on revenue for the first time since 2018.

It reported a revenue of $107 billion for 2024, up 29%.

Tesla's 2024 revenue, meanwhile, stood at $97.7 billion.

This year already looks like it could be an even better one for the Chinese EV maker.

It unveiled a new ecosystem that allows EVs to charge for 400 kilometers in just five minutes and introduce advanced driver assistance technology in even its most basic models.

I'd like to know this BYD I'm impressed with.

But

of course, they don't sell even one car in this country.

So the market possibilities for them is pretty high.

I think you have the same question I have

about the charging.

How does this work?

Well, I looked it up.

It will charge within five minutes with a, now they make it sound nice to say a thousand kilowatt charger.

That's a megawatt.

Are you going to put a megawatt charger in my house now?

No, it's not for.

No, the idea.

No, that's not the idea.

That's what I read.

No, the idea is that you have gas station-like facilities

that you drive to and you stick it just like

in a normal gas station.

The big advantage,

we don't have a, I don't keep gas here at the house.

I go to the gas station, and within five minutes, I fill up a tank of gas.

The idea is that you should be able to do the same thing with an electric car, as opposed to nowadays where you stop at one of these charging stations, you have to wait a half an hour for the car to get even a 300-mile, even a half-charge.

It takes an hour to two hours sometimes to get a full charge no i i i understand so they want to make it make it so you don't have to charge at home i i understand but are you going to get a megawatt at gas stations how is that going to happen

one megawatt

that's a pretty big jolt

i mean yeah yes you're absolutely right but that means you need a whole bunch of infrastructure to do what you're doing

is not there you're right

um

They can't even.

In fact, Biden, for the whole four years, if you recall, right at the get-go in 2020, says, we're going to build 300,000 charging stations or some outrageous number.

It was at least 50,000.

I'm not sure what the number is now because I've forgotten, but he was going to build, and he built one.

So BYD has a deal with Shell

in Shenzhen,

and the airport has 258 public fast charging ports.

I don't know if these are the

no, they're not the no, no, this five-minute thing is brand new.

There's no way that they're going to have that many online right away.

It's going to take forever.

So basically.

But if it takes a megawatt,

you know, you're going to have to have some serious juice going in there.

So they, so they say that, so this is near the airport, solar panels installed on the roof could generate about 300 kilowatt hours of renewable electricity electronically used to charge the vehicles.

I'm skeptical of that, too.

So, I mean, a kilowatt hour.

Especially in China or around that airport, I've been to China enough to know that you're a lot of people.

But there's a smog.

There's no sun.

Exactly.

So I'm skeptical about this announcement.

And

to get that amount of power, you have to have these coal-burning

power stations

making this smog worse.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I'm very skeptical about all that.

Yeah, I am too.

I mean, I think they may have the technology, but I don't think they have.

I mean, I could make it.

By the way, I'm skeptical about the technology, too, too.

If I could get a megawatt of power, I'd be mining Bitcoin.

Come on, man.

I'm not going to charge my car.

I'll stay home and print money.

There's a lot of power.

One of the news girls, you'll recognize who it is.

I don't know if it's CBS or the NBC girl.

I talked to Warren Buffett about the tariffs, and he had some interesting answers.

How do you think tariffs will affect the economy?

I mean, tariffs are actually, we've had a lot of experience with them.

They're an act of war

to some degree.

How do you think tariffs will impact inflation?

Over time, they're attacks on goods.

I mean, you know, it's an attack.

What?

Is that Nora?

I think it is Nora, yeah.

Yeah.

Well,

it's a highly edited piece, but she's talking about inflation.

he's talking about inflation, but he's talking about money printing inflation as far as I'm concerned.

On goods.

I mean, you know, the truth very doesn't pay up.

You always have to just, and then what?

You always have to ask that question in economics.

Always say, and then what?

So is there an answer for that when people say, you know, inflation persists, consumer prices keep going up?

When's the end in sight?

No, prices will be higher 10 years from now, and 20 years from now, and 30 years from now.

And what do you think about what's happening in Washington Washington right now?

That's because of money printing.

Of course,

it'll be more expensive 10 years from now, 20 years from now.

It always has been.

Yeah, we also used to buy our Toyota trucks for $559.99.

I think it's Washington.

Yeah.

It's, you know, technology changes things, all kinds of things, but Washington is Washington.

And the problem with politics is that you tend to have to make tiny compromises as you go along.

There you go.

So so

they got they got him to say prices will go up but i don't think he was uh in the same conversation and we'll see we'll see what happens i mean it all comes down to what do you want to buy you know he's not taxing uh avocados

no tariffs on that

on a car well when's the last time you bought a car

26 years ago

I bought a car

I buy this last car used of course Of course.

Bought it about seven years ago, maybe.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

It's not like, oh,

no one will buy cars anymore.

We'll see.

In general, though, the economy of certain states is pretty bad.

Really bad in California.

This was a shocking report, John.

Shocking.

Several businesses along the famed Sunset Strip have closed in recent months.

Others are on the verge, and there is a community effort underway to save one of them.

KTLA's Annie Rose Ramos, live in West Hollywood with more on that.

Annie Rose, good morning.

Hey, guys, good morning to you both.

Yeah, we keep on hearing about this happening over and over again.

We counted a total of five businesses and restaurants that have announced they're closing just in the past two months.

Okay, so she's on the Sunset Strip.

It's a big story.

An important restaurant is closing.

Which one is it?

You've been up and down the strip.

You've been to Ladome.

It's not La Dome, by the way.

You've been to some of the cool places on Sunset Strip.

Which one is closing?

Probably some place I never heard of.

No, you've heard of this one.

On the Sunset Strip.

I've been to this one many times.

I don't know.

Here on the Sunset Strip, including the restaurant you see behind me, beloved Les Petit Four.

It has been around.

Les Petit Four.

Le Petit Four.

That's where all the

Russians in track suits hang out.

I've never been there.

You've never been to Le Petit Four?

Oh.

No.

For over 40 years.

And now some community members coming together to make a last-ditch effort in order to try and save it.

Take a look here.

They are posting this GoFundMe page.

Yeah, with $6,000.

Good luck keeping your restaurant going.

Especially on that property.

Yeah.

But

maybe the strip has just died.

It probably has.

Probably.

The last time I was down there, it wasn't that it didn't have the same vibrancy that it used to have.

That's for sure.

Man, when I lived there, it didn't have that vibrancy.

It was already horrible

compared to like late 80s, early 90s when we go out to LA to film stuff.

No,

it's no good.

Yeah, there's a depressing aspect to LA at the moment.

Like San Francisco, it's just, it's, it's a, it's depressing because of all the homeless and the just, and it's got nothing to do with the California economy.

It has to do with the policies regarding the homeless encampments and the allowance of crime a lot of crime well but who who lives in California just poor people and a bunch of rich people

I'm just looking at middle class in California it's not a lot of middle class in the valley in the porn industry

it's not generalized okay All right, you've got

you've got several series here, so I'm going to let you choose one.

Let's see what we got.

Because, you know, unlike you, when you have a series, I just step back and let you go.

Yeah, there's some of this.

Let's do the order on a

quickie.

This is the order on elections that didn't get any play at all.

Oh, I thought it was pretty big.

Trump on the elections,

I didn't hear much about it.

President Trump signed an executive order yesterday that aims to make sweeping changes to elections and voter registration, including a proof of citizenship requirement.

Legal experts are calling it an overreach of presidential authority and warned that the provisions could block tens of millions of eligible Americans from voting.

Joining us now with more is NPR's Jude Joffee Block.

Hi, Jude.

Hello.

Hello.

Hello.

Hello.

Hello.

Okay, so what exactly is in this?

Once again, no time or expense spared for this program.

Executive order.

Right, right, right.

Well, there's a lot in here.

And so it lays out a number of new requirements and says if states don't comply, they will not get federal funding.

So one big change is this new proof of citizenship requirement to register to vote in federal elections.

So you'd need to show a copy of a citizenship document, like a passport, to a local or state official in order to register to vote or whenever you update your registration, like if you move.

Another change, the executive order aims to stop states from counting mailed ballots that are postmarked by election day, but arrive after.

This is something that a lot of states allow.

Wait, legally, can the president make all of these changes simply by executive order?

Well, that's really the key question.

So, Trump is trying to assert that he, as president, has authority over elections, and that's not been the case.

We have a decentralized system where states make a lot of their own election rules.

But this order seeks to expand the president's power and test how far it can go.

Yeah, I don't think he's going to get that through.

I like it, but I don't think that's going to happen.

I agree.

I really

agree.

did learn that in Title 18 of the U.S.

Code that if you vote in a general election as a non-resident and non-citizen, I should say,

and you're caught,

you will not be prosecuted as long as you believed you were a citizen, which is very interesting.

I don't think that's in this report, you shouldn't.

No, I don't know when that snuck in, but that is like, oh, oh, okay.

So you can do it.

If you get caught, oh, well, no problem.

I thought I was a citizen.

Huh?

What?

We've already heard from voting rights advocates that lawsuits are going to challenge this.

And normally, an overhaul like this would be something for Congress to take on.

And in fact, Republicans have been backing a bill called the SAVE Act that includes a lot of the same provisions as this order.

Oh, man, that thing's been around for years, the SAVE Act.

That's not new.

It goes nowhere.

Oh, no.

That bill likely faces an uphill battle in the Senate.

So instead, some critics are saying Trump is forcing through that legislation by executive fiat.

Well, what has President Trump said about why he's pushing these changes?

Well, he says it's necessary for election integrity.

Here he is yesterday when he signed the order.

We've got to straighten out our election.

This country is so sick because of the election, the fake elections and the bad elections.

You know, of course, Trump touts the results of the last election, which he won, but it's long been part of his brand to make false claims, false claims about voter fraud, most notably when he denied the results of the 2020 election.

And in the lead up to this past election, he and his allies made baseless, baseless claims about the threat of non-citizens voting in large numbers, which we know from audits and studies that such cases are really rare, yet that's what they're targeting here.

Yeah.

Okay, well, I'm curious, how are voting experts reacting to this order?

You know, I just had an idea.

Exit strategy does require work, but we could get people to help us.

We could just do NPR Remixed.

And it's just doing exactly what you do.

All those

strange things they put in there, all of the little NLP tricks, all the hyperphoras, all that stuff could just be NPR Remix.

And it would be a popular stream.

You know, put it to some music.

It wouldn't get a couple of our end-of-show mixers to put a beat under it.

Yeah, it would be.

I'm sure NPR would take offense and we'd get a cease and desist

for

what you write for you for you

well you know I think there's an argument that could be made that you could say it was for inter for entertainment humor purposes parody parody under

um

what's it called

i don't know fair use fair use yes parody under fair use totally appropriate yeah well until then i'm doing these well i spoke with ucla law professor rick hass and he brought up how very rare these cases cases of non-citizen voting are, but that a proof of citizenship requirement would have a big impact and could disenfranchise millions of voters.

So you'd be using a very strict rule to prevent a very small amount of fraud.

The intention seems likely to be to suppress the vote rather than to try to make our elections filled with greater integrity, of course.

And you know, people are already asked on voter registration forms to attest under penalty of perjury if they're citizens and eligible to vote, and they can face prison or deportation if they try to vote illegally.

Okay.

Say more.

No, that's not true.

Unless they believe they were citizens, then there's no problem.

Prisoners.

In fact, that should have been in the report.

The report should have been right in there.

But it wasn't.

Incorrect.

And you know, people are already asked on voter registration forums to attest under penalty of perjury if they're citizens and eligible to vote.

And they can face prison or deportation if they try to vote illegally.

Okay.

Say more about how Rick Hassen told you if this order stands, millions of voters could be disenfranchised.

Like, how would that happen exactly?

Right.

Well, past studies have found that almost one in 10 Americans doesn't have a proof of citizenship document or doesn't have easy access to one.

And this order is also a bit vague about even which documents would be accepted as proof of citizenship.

It doesn't explicitly name birth certificates.

It does name passports, but only about half of Americans have those.

They cost money and take a while to get.

So this rule would likely upend voter registration drives as well, and other ways that Americans are used to signing up to vote.

This would really be a sea change.

Did I just hear an iPhone go?

Was that on the clip, or was that you?

It wasn't me, I don't have an iPhone.

He upend voter registration drives as well, and other ways that Americans are used to signing up to vote.

This would really be a sea change.

I was gonna say, like, wait a minute, John has an iPhone.

No,

hmm.

Um, It's so annoying that NPR, they just never have anyone on from the other side.

They are just saying, oh, this is no good.

Oh, this is bad.

Oh, he's not going to make it through the

PBS is worse.

Never.

They have one side.

It was brought up during the congressional hearings.

I'm surprised you didn't have that clip where they asked this Maher woman,

you know, you realize that they challenged the reporters.

You had 87 reporters.

They're all registered Democrats.

There's not one Republican that works in the newsroom.

87%, wasn't it?

I thought it was 80.

No, it was 87%.

It was a total number.

Yeah.

87 to nothing.

Thanks for saying you're surprised.

You should email me with that.

I'm surprised you didn't get that clip.

I'm surprised you didn't get that clip because that was, I thought, was a key element.

Oh, surprise.

Big surprise.

No Republicans at NPR, huh?

I know.

And she was like, whoa, that's interesting.

And she acted like she didn't know.

That was the funny part about it.

What?

Whoa?

Gambling?

Gambling?

I can't believe that.

She's a spook.

Okay, I want to.

I have a couple of clips here.

That means the series don't go to the end.

You used the word splash earlier.

I can't remember.

I did?

Yeah, you said make a splash or something.

Well, I think it had to do with Trump's approach.

Yeah, maybe.

Well, because this is a word that we heard about a week ago, and it's back.

And you could say splash, or you could say splash.

For the Hague Summit,

what I hope coming out of the Hague Summit is that it will really be a splash.

A splash, a big splash.

This is the splash.

This is Mark Grutte.

He is the head of the NATO,

and this is the big Hague Summit, which he wants to be a splash.

Projecting the collective NATO power and therefore also American power on the world stage.

Yes, he's working for us still.

Of course, defending the Euro Atlantic, but I would even say the world stage because

it's not extending Article 5 to the Indo-Pacific, but working together as NATO also to make sure that we keep the Indo-Pacific safe.

And that means spending more, it means producing more.

What does NATO stand for?

North American True Treaty.

North Atlantic.

North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

What's that got to do with the Indo-Pacific?

The North Atlantic is a very specific area.

It does not make

the Atlantic Ocean.

No.

You can make a splash in any ocean.

So it does not matter where the splash is as long as it's a splash and it shows

American power.

And that means spending more, it means producing more.

Spending more on war stuff.

It means a fair distribution between the US and other NATO allies.

Yes, it's fair.

We need you not fair.

You not fair, Europe.

And as I said, it will be about the lethality, the lethality of NATO.

Lethality!

You know, where we kill you with this stuff, man.

NATO kill your lethality.

And as I said, it will be about the lethality, the lethality of NATO, showing that, yes, we will never be an offensive organization.

We are defensive organizations.

We are defensive.

We're not making any troubles.

Tell that to the Libyans.

We're not making trouble.

But don't dare.

Explain to me why they attacked Libya.

Why do you ask these questions every time

he's saying that we're defensive?

Just shut up.

Lethality of NATO showing that yes, we will never be an offensive organization.

We are a defensive organization, but don't dare to attack us.

Don't you dare to attack us?

Because you will not see the light of day again.

And I hope that will be.

this guy is the biggest warmonger in the universe don't you dare attack us the real outcomes of the hack summit uh a splash a splash showing that reinvigorated alliance uh standing together one for all all for one we are the three three musketeers one for all all for one but but but but but but but but but

Don't

this is not we're not doing this because USA wants it.

This is not not about USA,

except you don't want to cross USA.

First of all, by understanding that we do not do this because the Americans want us to do it, but because we need to do it because of Russia.

We don't do it because the Americans, the Americans.

Remember, I will change my story at the end of this clip, but it's not because the Americans want it.

And a threat.

By the way, by spending more, you will also have a fairer burden sharing with the US, because the US rightly is irritated about the fact that in Europe we have collected the peace dividend and I myself as Prime Minister was part of that and that was wrong.

Luckily the Netherlands is now spending over 2%.

Luckily.

But collectively we have collected the peace dividend.

This was not the and rightly the US is irritated.

So by spending more because of the Russian threat,

the effect of that is also that you have a fairish burden sharing with the United States.

But it's not because America wants this.

Just so you know, it's not about that.

And there are a few countries not yet at two percent.

I would love to say that since I came in on the first of October, things started to change.

That was not true.

But there happened something on the twentieth of January in the US.

And since then, look what happened.

It's amazing.

It's not about America, but America wants for Trump, who became President on January 20th, but it's amazing.

The Belgians have been saying we want to get to 2% by the summer.

Spain now is saying they want to get to 2% this summer.

We know that Portugal, Italy, they all have these debates now.

And I tell them that, well, now I am calling you to ask you to deliver the 2% by this summer so that collectively we can move considerably north of that 2% because we have to spend much, much more than 2%.

But this is not about America.

This is not because America wants it.

But now I am calling you.

But you might get a

very

patient man from Washington on the line if you don't listen to me.

And I would love to listen into those phone calls, but let's hope they are not necessary.

And at this moment, I must say that all these non-two percenters are having genuine debates to move to the 2% before summer.

So, all the non-two percenters, it's not about America, but if you don't step up,

you might get a call from Washington, and you don't want to get that call.

That's exactly what he said.

That's exactly what he said.

And so now

we have to make sure that we all understand

that this is long-term.

This is not just a Ukraine issue.

We are never ever.

I don't care what kind of peace deal is made, it's never going to end.

It's the result of 12 hours of behind-closed doors talk.

Oh, I'm sorry, the wrong one.

Here it is.

This is the one.

Well, there will be no normalization of relations with Russia when the war is over.

That will not happen.

This will take decades because there is a total lack of confidence.

The threat is still there.

As I said in my speech, even if the war comes to a conclusion, the Russian threat is still there.

They are

building a war economy.

They are spending so much money on defence.

It's a war economy.

They are producing in three months in ammunition.

What the whole of the alliance is is producing in a year.

We are ramping up our ammunition production.

Luckily we have to

so there's no way uh that we can normalise relations with uh Russia after the war.

So we hope in many decades from now and post-Putin that

there might be some, but I mean, I'm not optimistic.

Post-Putin.

This is the most outrageous thing you can say.

Well, even if we have a total truce there in Ukraine,

nothing's going to normalize with Russia.

No, post-Putin, post-Putin, post-Putin.

And

guess what Zelensky said?

Ukrainian President Zelensky has claimed that his Russian counterpart Putin will die soon.

The remarks came amid widespread speculation about the Russian President's health.

Russia has strongly rejected all speculations and maintained the Russian leader is fully fit.

The Ukrainian leader made the bold claim while speaking to French journalists in a televised interview after meeting French President Emmanuel Macron in Paris.

Zelensky said Putin hopes to remain in power until his death and his ambitions are not limited to Ukraine.

He added that the Russian leader's death would bring an end to the war between the two nations.

There have been continued speculations over Putin's deteriorating health.

Videos have surfaced of the Russian leader with puffy face and making jerky movements.

He got puffy face and make it

he's gonna die.

He's got puffy face.

Videos have surfaced of the Russian leader with puffy face and making jerky movements with his limbs.

Some videos also showed Putin coughing continuously.

Just last week, it was suggested that Putin suffered a mini-stroke with video showing his legs shaking uncontrollably.

This was during a conference and interview and other times.

So

what kind of a dip shit report was that?

Well, it seems like he has restless leg syndrome, I guess.

So he said it in Ukrainian and all the clips.

France 24, Franz von Catre, does not have any report of this, even though he said it in France.

So I found that to be somewhat odd.

But all the reports had, the mix was no good.

It was Zelensky speaking in Ukrainian, and the English translation is equally loud.

It's very hard to understand.

But he says, that's what he says.

Oh, Putin's going to die soon anyway.

And then it will all end, which is, in my mind, a veiled threat.

Oh, he's going to die.

Don't worry.

And if he dies, no matter how he dies, then it's all going to be over.

How does that work?

Well, because it's

the same thing.

That's why they wanted regime change.

That's why the CIA said, hey, if you're living in Russia and you want to become a spook, let us know.

Here's our email address.

Yeah,

they've always, it's only a Putin.

You never hear

the Russian citizens are no good.

Never hear that.

It's only Putin.

Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin.

It's the only baddie they have is Putin.

And now, oh, the unthinkable has happened.

We seem to be making headway with a peace deal.

Oh, no!

It's the result of 12 hours of behind-closed doors talks in a series of meetings over three days in Riyadh.

Two statements from the White House outlining separate agreements with Ukraine and Russia to ensure safe navigation in the Black Sea and to implement a ban on attacks by the two countries on each other's energy facilities.

Both sides agreed that third parties could oversee the truce.

Separately, the United States also agreed that it would help restore Russia's access to the world market for agricultural and fertilizer exports, an incentive to Moscow blasted by Vladimir Zelensky.

We believe that this is a weakening of the position and a weakening of sanctions, in our opinion.

We do not yet know the details of this item and we were not present at this meeting, but this was not on our agenda.

Nonetheless, Kyiv said it would uphold its end of the agreement while calling for more talks to settle the details.

The Kremlin, meanwhile, declared that the agreement could only come into force after the lifting of restrictions on its agricultural exports.

Earlier, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Moscow didn't trust the Ukrainian president to uphold a ceasefire.

We need clear guarantees.

These guarantees can only be the result of an order by Washington to Zelensky.

The limited truce on energy and sea came about after Vladimir Putin responded to the originally proposed proposed full 30-day ceasefire with a long list of conditions.

The White House said Tuesday it would continue facilitating talks on both sides in a bid towards achieving a sustainable peace.

So, not quite the end the war in 24 hours that we were promised.

I'm sorry, that was

sarcastic.

He was being sarcastic.

So, they're starting very, very slowly.

We need to make peace profitable again.

I don't know how to do it.

Let's bring bring these clips in.

This is Trump versus the EU on NPR.

As we've reported before on this show, U.S.

administrations, at least as far back as George W.

Bush's, have been pushing European nations to increase their defense spending.

But throughout, the U.S.

has remained committed to the principle of NATO's Article 5, which says that an attack against one ally is considered as an attack against all allies.

That commitment appears to have ended with President Trump.

I think it's common sense, right?

If they don't pay, I'm not going to defend them.

No, I'm not going to defend them.

It's common sense.

You don't pay.

We don't defend you.

NATO Shmato is no good.

Yeah, they go on with this one.

Now, for the record, Article 5 of NATO has only ever been invoked once, and it was by the United States.

Bronislav Slonchev teaches military and war studies at the University of California, San Diego.

When Article 5 was invoked after 9-11, the Europeans responded.

Canadians, they went and they died.

The British went and they died.

Everybody responded.

Wait a minute.

Didn't the French say that they didn't like it?

Didn't we have Freedom Fries for that whole reason?

It was something

the Freedom Fries derived from.

It had something to do with it.

Yeah, I thought the French were like, nah, nih, no, no, we're not going to do that.

I'll look it up.

That includes the French, by the way, who supported the U.S.

by sending troops to Afghanistan, 89 of whom died and more than 700 of whom were wounded.

The Iraq War.

Public scorn for these sacrifices is just one barb on the Iraqi

pierced the heart of the European-American relationship and shredded trust between them.

And it's galvanized European governments to make themselves independent of the U.S.

when it comes to their defense.

But Fenella McGurdy says Europe was already ramping up its defense spending long before Trump came into office.

Fenella is a senior fellow for defense economics at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.

In 2024, we saw record defence spending growth already, 11.7% in real terms.

And that was itself an increase, so an acceleration from the level of growth we saw in 2023, which reached 5.2%.

And that was an acceleration from the growth the year before.

The EU plan announced last week will likely break new records.

It advocates a massive ramp-up of defence industrial production capacity, and it unlocks a combined $866 billion in military spending over four years.

That's about what the U.S.

spends in a single year on defense.

So Branislav says it's not even close to a conversion to a war economy, but it could still be good medicine for Europe.

You know, there's a funny phenomenon I've noticed.

It

goes basically like this.

Well, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

But we're going to do that anyway.

Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

Well, we're going to do that anyway, so it's not not important.

This is the same phenomenon you see with the NPR thing.

And

there's other examples I've had on the show.

They say, well,

it's only 1%.

It doesn't, you know, oh, they're taking all our money away, but what's only 1%?

Yeah, yeah, it's only 1%, but still.

Or the park services like, oh, the government is making a great investment, the $10 billion on national parks generates $70 billion.

But what do you need the $10 for?

I found this on and on, this idea you complain about something, but then back it off and say, well, it's not important.

Just doesn't make any sense.

Now, further on, this, by the way, this goes on forever.

The third clip is deep into the conversation near the end.

I just thought I'd put, drop that in.

Everything is changing right now.

This current war, things have evolved dramatically.

Initially, for instance, everybody was talking artillery and tanks.

That was a big thing.

Then the tanks turned out not to be super effective.

And now everything is drones

and the missiles, right?

And everything then is.

Why is he laughing about that?

It's because they're so cheap.

It's like drones.

And now everything is drones

and the missiles, right?

And why is that funny?

That is interesting.

I didn't notice this, but you're right.

Why is it?

Is it laughter?

Why?

Drones.

Drone.

I don't know.

Drones and

missiles.

Everything is drones and the missiles, right?

And everything then is related to how you can keep electronic warfare from the interference.

Do you have eyes in the sky?

So the satellites.

So these are the kind of capabilities we should not be building to fight.

In other words, the whole thing is a farce.

I think that's why he's laughing.

War has become a farce.

It's like, it's just, it's like a video game.

We just push this, we just push that.

We got eye in the sky, we got drones, we got missiles.

It's not really like fighting in the trenches anymore.

The last three wars we should be building to fight the next one.

Europe can do all sorts of things to move quickly, or at least more quickly than it usually does.

It can convert old factories to make arms and reconfigure existing ones to become dual-use civilian and military production hubs.

It can develop supply relationships with other arms providers like South Korea or Israel.

But whatever it does, it'll take time, Fenela says.

And because of that, the U.S.

will likely remain part of the European defense equation for the foreseeable future.

It takes

decades for a lot of these programmes.

So I think that there's some level of dependence will always be there, certainly in things like heavy lift transport and things like that, because those capabilities do take time to develop.

And I think Europe could get there, but not perhaps in the timeframe it needs.

So there's always going to be

some level of reliance on the US and hopefully some partnerships going forward, which ultimately is good for US defense industry as well.

Yeah.

Herr Schmidt is a smart guy, man.

I remember we played a clip of him all about drones.

Drones is the new warfare.

This is where it's going.

And there it is.

There it is.

It's all cheap technology

to blow people up.

By the way, food has been renaming food in time of war is not new.

So Freedom Fries, Freedom Fries was indeed

changed the name of French fries in 2003, France's

opposition to invading Iraq, which in hindsight, of course, they were correct.

Yeah.

So we punished them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're going to show you Frenchies.

World War I, Sauerkraut was renamed in America to Liberty Cabbage.

And Frankfurter's and hot dogs were changed to Liberty Dog.

Liberty Dog.

We need an anti-Russian kind of thing.

But the thing is, Russian.

Anti-Russian foods.

No,

well, vodka.

We could change vodka.

Vodka, you could change that to what?

Freedom juice.

Freedom juice.

Freedom juice.

I'm writing it down.

Freedom juice.

What else?

Liberty sap.

I mean, there's all kinds of sap.

Liberty sap.

Hey, man, hit me with some liberty sap.

Neat.

Okay.

Nice.

oh man the people are crazy the world has gone nuts it's gone nuts i tell you the world has gone nuts

well i do have a couple of

i get

these are clips i want to get out of the way

this is the d e i d o a clips there's only two of them okay

all right president trump has called for an end to wow you got to warn me you got to warn me about that kind of stuff you can't just launch into shosh, suffering, succotash.

I'm Scott

Simon.

President Trump has called for an end to what he calls illegal diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts.

So he has revoked a 1965 executive order that has guided generations of federal contractors on how to comply with non-discrimination laws.

As N.

Pierre's Andrea Shue reports, that's leaving federal contractors who employ one in five workers in the U.S.

scrambling.

The end of Lyndon B.

Johnson's executive order 11246 has kept Matt Cameradella busy.

His whole practice at the law firm Jackson Lewis is helping companies that do business with the government comply with that order and with other federal laws.

Since Trump's return, he's been fielding questions non-stop.

This is pretty much all I've been doing for the last six weeks.

The 1965 executive order required most federal contractors to take steps to identify and address barriers to employment for anyone, but especially women and people of color.

Camardella says his clients took those responsibilities seriously.

Every year, they'd analyze their hiring and pay practices to try to figure out, for example, if women were getting paid less than men.

They'd plan out how to recruit a diverse workforce so that their hires reflected the pool of available workers around them.

There was real risk in not doing this properly, or at all for that matter.

But now things have gotten complicated.

Not only has Trump revoked Johnson's executive order and halted its enforcement, the president has also issued his own executive order requiring contractors to certify that they're not engaging in illegal DEI.

Yeah, well, you know, it.

I didn't realize this went back to Lyndon Johnson.

No, I didn't know that either.

But it doesn't surprise me, strangely enough.

But it really ran.

I mean, the thing that people forget about DEI is it was a part of ESG.

And the reason why companies all got on board with it is because if you,

you were, they had a score,

and it was, I think it was the BlackRock guys, didn't they?

Didn't they come up with

some board and board determined?

Larry Finkelme.

Yes, the Finkelmeister.

And they had a score system.

And depending on your environmental, social, and governance score, you became less or more investable by pension funds mainly.

That's why everyone got it was a

real, real evil thing they did.

Yeah, but they pulled the plug on it finally.

Oh, yes, they did.

A court has been a lot of people.

Many because the investments were bad.

The high-scoring ESG guys were a good company.

Lose your pants.

A court has blocked that part of Trump's order for now.

Still, Camerdella says the problem is nobody really understands what illegal illegal DEI means.

He says nothing about federal anti-discrimination law has changed.

In fact, he believes there's nothing wrong with a company carrying on with what it had been doing, looking at its pay practices or its hiring or its outreach to ensure it's complying with the law.

However, there may be a perception that somehow that smacks of illegal DEI.

I'm very concerned.

Jenny Yang headed the Labor Department office that enforced the 1965 executive order under President Biden.

That office investigated employers in all kinds of industries, such as tech, manufacturing, construction.

In 2020, Princeton University agreed to pay more than a million dollars in back wages and salary adjustments to about 100 female professors after the government found pay disparities.

The university denied it had discriminated against women, but agreed to look more closely at its pay practices.

Jenny Yang says the Office of Federal Contractor Compliance Programs, or OFCCP, can claim many successes.

So in the last decade, OFCCP recovered, for example, over $100 million for women who were victims of discrimination.

Now, under Trump, that office is expected to be largely dismantled since its primary task is gone.

The Labor Department has not confirmed when that's going to happen.

Trump says ending illegal discrimination will allow people to compete based on merit.

Speaking of DEI,

the Canadian Transportation Board released the data from the black box of the

Delta flight?

The one that flipped over?

The one that flipped over.

And so they have not yet released the cockpit voice recorder, which would be important to hear.

So

just on the pilots, so indeed,

the first officer, the female, the co-pilot, was a

She had just about the,

I mean, she graduated from the right academy and it's all within the rules then you don't need 1500 hours but a thousand hours so she racked up another almost 500 she'd flown 56 hours that week and she was piloting which is very normal particularly when you note that the the captain the

the pilot the the one actually in in control of the entire flight not only

a very high amount of hours, but a trainer on simulators and real world.

So that is exactly the scenario you want.

You want pilots to be flying and learn how to fly and learn all kinds of scenarios when you have an instructor there next to her in this case.

There was nothing wrong with the aircraft,

but there were wind gusts, and this was a very hard landing.

The landing gear is rated to a drop onto the tarmac with a sink rate, I think, 760 feet per minute.

They hit it at over 1,000.

So what happened was, as I said, is the and it's so the full weight came down on the right

rear landing gear.

It snapped off, and that's why the wing hit the ground, and then they were very fortunate how that all ended up.

So,

it's not necessarily a DEI issue.

There's female pilots out there who yell at me when I say this.

This could have happened to any pilot, but really the male pilot in command was in charge.

He should have had his hands on the yoke.

He should have been following through the whole time.

So we'll see exactly what was said.

But I think this could have happened to anybody, but it wasn't good.

It was clearly human error.

And that's your update from the air.

BBC World Service Aviation Update.

Speaking of

illegal DEI, there's

another term that popped up in regards to the GLP-1,

or as we say,

I went to my, I got my hair cut in Austin.

She said,

what is it?

What's the name of the compound?

Gluta.

Glutamine.

Glutamine.

Glutamine.

No, it's not glutamine.

Glutatide.

Gluty-tuti.

Glutiti to

no, she pronounced it in a French way and it sounded kind of good.

Oh, semi-glutidais.

Semeglutidais.

Because now every single hair salon hands out little flyers, little cards, for the injection nurse, which we learned just a few weeks ago.

And you get your Botox, you get your lip fillers, and you get your GLP-1, your semi-glutades.

What kind of a place are you going to?

Every place has that now.

By the way.

Oh, they don't?

Yes, yes, all of them.

All going to some sort of a screwball place, some sort of a place with the upper crust of Dallas or whatever who in Austin.

Okay, so first of all, it's a women's hair salon mainly.

Well, that would make sense.

Although the former New York banker also goes there, I've been going to her for 15 years.

So when we left Austin, I was not going to give up on my hair relationship.

But it's good because she is definitely

libtard adjacent, but she has no problem

with my views.

And we always have a really nice conversation.

And she always, because she has no one to talk to about how crazy people are, no one in her life, not her partner, nobody.

She can't, she can't just say.

Is she a lesbian?

No, no, she's not a lesbian.

She's a deadhead, though.

She goes to Vegas to sit in the sphere three nights in a row when she loves John Mayer.

But, you know, like she, she has no one in her life who's.

How old is this woman?

She is 47, I think, 47.

47.

Yes.

What does that have to do with anything?

I just want to know.

Who would go to Vegas and sit in the sphere for three days unless there were a young stoner?

Thousands and thousands of people.

Young stoners.

Yes.

And so she, and Vegas is now legal to be stoned everywhere.

Walk around.

So the whole place smells like weed.

You can drink, though, in the street.

Yes.

You can smoke weed on the street, too.

But now the hotels, the casinos, everything smells of weed.

Anyway,

it's horrible.

It's nasty.

To get to the point of the story, so she can't just say, oh, I enjoyed watching Trump on Rogan.

She can't say that to anybody in her world in Austin.

Despite the fact that Rogan is in Austin, he's a local.

Yeah, no, that is not done.

And she said that she had a client the other day, and she would, you know, and these are just, you know, yeah, maybe, maybe upper crust, I'm not sure, but Austin, white Austin women.

And

the topic of Tesla came up and Elon, she's like, yeah, well, you know.

And her customer said,

you know, he's a Nazi, right?

And

my girl was like,

no.

He is a, so these people,

these are educated people.

actually believe he is a Nazi because like a literal Nazi a literal not just like a name you call someone no he's a Nazi he is an actual Nazi

exactly anyway back to the

it was a fun it's worth the drive trust me um back to this illegal term

uh when it comes to the semi-glutides listen to this a new report reveals illegal ingredients in knockoff weight loss drugs that are flooding into the United States Shabir Ember Shaftar is the executive director of the Partnership for Safe Medicines and the co-author of this new report.

He's joining me now live.

Hello to you.

So illegal ingredients.

Now, when you hear that, what is the first thing you think?

Apparently nothing.

You walked away.

You walked away during my report.

Are you peeing?

You always forget that I have speakers.

Do you have something else to do?

Yeah, the phone was ringing off the hook.

Well,

we've been doing this show for over 17 years.

Take it off the hook already.

And I listened to the clip, and the clip was going on and on.

And I said, well, this clip is going to go on long enough that I can walk over to the phone and take it off the hook.

And you can hear it beeping back there.

And then you come on with a question out of the blue.

Oh, no.

I thought we were doing a show, but oh, no, no.

Okay, did you understand the question?

Would you like me to restart the clip and do the question again?

And we can end up with the question.

I heard the clip.

I could hear the clip.

The question was vague.

I'll play the clip again because you're not.

No, it was about what ingredients.

No.

They're illegal.

Yeah.

You said what ingredients were illegal?

No, I say when someone says an ingredient is illegal, what is the, this is a news report.

What do you think that means?

And that what you just said is different than what I just said that you contradicted and said I didn't know what you were talking about?

Answer the question, go.

What do I think that

Mark Levin?

And so

go.

What do I think it means?

It means that something's toxic.

Yes, that's my point.

Thank you for answering the question correctly.

You go on to our second round.

Of this new report, he's joining me now live.

Hello to you.

Hello, and thank you for covering this critical safety information.

I'm clearly a PR guy.

He's not a doctor.

He's a PR dude.

Of course, you know, let's start with what you found and what your report reveals when it comes to these illegal weight loss drugs that are coming into the country.

Now, all of a sudden, the whole thing is illegal.

So, in our report, we studied shipments of semaglotide and trisepatide, the active ingredients in these very popular weight loss medications that were coming into the country, and found that there were shipments that were declared as being made in factories that the FDA did not even know of, were not registered with the FDA and certainly never inspected.

And some of them were marked as for compounding, which is a great concern of ours because there's been some issues with compounding these medicines and safety.

So it's not that they were toxic ingredients.

They came from labs that the FDA had never heard of.

So this is a PR move because it's just semaglutide, which is a non-patentable peptide.

But, oh,

they came from labs the FDA has never heard.

it's illegal, it's illegal.

Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into the past?

Oh boy, she really punched that one up.

Yeah, she punched it up, didn't she?

I like that.

Which is a great concern of ours because there's been some issues with compounding these medicines and safety.

Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into the legal supply?

It was in her script.

I think it was italicized in her script.

Like, and really punch this one up because this guy's paying to be on.

Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into the legal supply of these drugs, if that makes sense?

It does make sense.

We don't actually know enough

because this FDA does not publish where the shipments went.

We only know that there were nearly 200 shipments that came in that were made in places that could never have been safe, even if they'd been known to the FDA.

One was a J.W.

Marriott, there was another one at a health fitness club, and another one at a high school in Canada.

And none of those could possibly, even believably, be legal and legitimate or safe facilities.

And then he adds safe.

Legal or legitimate or safe.

So the message is, get your brand name drugs, everybody.

Get them now because all of your Congresspeople have been paid off by them, according to RFK Jr.

Today, over 100 members of Congress support a bill to fund Ozempic with Medicare at $1,500 a month.

Most of these members have taken money from the manufacturer of that product, a European company called Novonordis.

As everyone knows, once a drug is approved for Medicare, it goes to Medicaid.

And there is a push to recommend Ozempic for Americans as young as six over a condition, obesity, that is completely preventable and barely even existed 100 years ago.

Since 74% of Americans are obese, The cost of all of them, if they take their Ozempic prescription, will be $3 trillion a year.

This is a drug that has made Novo Nordis the biggest company in Europe.

It's a Danish company, but the Danish government does not recommend it.

It recommends a change in diet to treat obesity and exercise.

Virtually Novo Nordis' entire value is based upon its projections of what Ozempic is going to sell to Americans.

For half the price of Ozempic, we could purchase regeneratively raised organic agriculture,

organic food

for every American, three meals a day and gym membership for every obese American.

Why are members of Congress doing the bidding of this Danish company instead of standing up for American farmers and children?

Because Novo Nordis is one of the largest funders of medical research, the media and politicians and the medical schools all go along with them.

I like the calculation.

I think we should give away organic food three meals a day to everybody and a gym membership.

I'm all for that.

Put it on Medicare.

Here's my Medicare card.

Give me my beef.

Talk is cheap, Bobby.

Get on the stick already.

This, you know, I think there was.

Yeah, I mean, actually,

I'm with you on this.

Talk is cheap.

Get on the stick.

The main thing is let's get these advertisers off the TV for starters, which he's been threatening to do now.

He came up in the conversation just recently, but there's still no action.

Me, of course, won't be too happy about it.

Why not?

That's where half their income comes from.

Oh, the media.

I thought you said Mimi.

I'm like, why would Mimi be upset with that?

I've screaming Mimis in my brain ever since you said it.

Screaming Mimi is a phrase.

Yes, I'd never heard it.

I've learned something.

There's been a rumor going around, and people like I think Zero Hedge even published it.

No,

unusual whales.

There you go.

There's a rumor that he's going to do it.

He's going to do it.

He's going to.

He's going to do it.

He's going to do it.

He's going to do it.

He's going to ban big pharma advertising.

But I think that started with a parody account on

X,

which a lot of people say.

Well, he promised he's going to do it.

Was it a true promise?

It's one of the three.

But let me just...

Okay.

I'll say one.

What was it?

Advertising.

Let's listen to it again.

I'm not intimidated by the agencies.

I know how they work and I know how to change them.

And most of those changes you do not need Congress for.

The president, President Trump could have done it, had the power to do it himself.

And President Biden has the power to do it himself.

And I'll give you an example.

With a stroke of the pen, you can change back the rule that allows pharmaceutical advertisers to do direct to consumer ads on television.

That's one of the big problems.

That's one of the reasons we have this entrenched agency capture, not only of Congress, because they control the airwaves, they control the evening news.

75% of the revenues for those evening news shows for, you know, Anderson Cooper is coming from Pfizer, another pharmaceutical company.

So, and those companies are dictating content on those shows and they dictate

the official narratives.

And I have another clip here where he talked about it on Rogan.

Well, you know, ambitions

have completely subsumed the regulatory function of those agencies.

And that has to end.

You know, one of the things that we need to do, too, is to get rid of pharmaceutical advertising on television.

There's only two countries in the world that allow it.

One is New Zealand.

The other is our country.

Everybody who is knowledgeable is against it.

And it not only

has compromised public health, we now, we take largely because of that advertising,

we take three or four times the amount of drugs as Europeans take.

And drugs are the number three killer in our country.

Pharmaceutical drugs, the number three killer after cancer and heart attacks.

They're not making us healthier.

We spend more on health care.

$4.3 trillion

in every country in the world

in terms of our health outcomes.

They're insufferable.

All of these drugs, the pharmaceutical industry is not making us safe.

And, you know, we changed the rule in 1997.

Prior to 1997, like cigarettes and liquor,

you couldn't advertise on TV.

We changed those rules and FDA allowed the pharmaceutical companies to advertise.

And they not only now have a platform from which they can tell everybody you're sick, you need this, you need that,

but also

they are able to dictate content on television.

So they can dictate content on the you know on the locals and on YouTube, yeah, of course, yeah.

Okay,

well, get to it, Bobby.

Yeah, we're waiting, yeah, because then we can finally get some big pharma ads on the podcast.

Oh,

John, I just got my uh got my Ozempic.

I'm feeling great, I'm down 8,000 pounds.

I heard a drug advertised on the radio the other day, uh, like Restora or something.

it was something they have some more recent ones.

I got to start recording some of these because

they're pushing a lot of drugs onto the TV that I've never heard of.

They're all new, and they got the worst side effects.

Yeah, well,

sorry, and the worst names.

The names are really bad, and the side effects are just off the off, they're wild.

Let me think what this was called.

It restores your muscle mass when you're on GLP1

drugs.

Wow, it's called

steroids.

No, no, no.

No, it's

what was it called?

But I think it was called, it was something like Restora.

Do you like being thin,

but your legs are breaking?

We've got Restora.

Oh, man, it's so bad.

And that was kind of my point when I saw the card.

You know, it's like, yeah, get your Botox, get your lip fillers.

And they gave you a, a, okay,

this is like a shaggy dog.

I should have taken it with me.

We're back at.

You didn't take the card with you?

No.

It's got a cute woman.

Oh, wait a minute.

You go on and on about how great it is to go to Austin.

It's always worth the price of admission.

You give me grief for just even suggesting anything.

And then you leave the card.

I know.

I feel very bad about that.

You should.

Inject here.

Maybe I can find her.

Injection nurse, Austin.

So they put it.

So there's an injection nurse nurse at your hairdresser.

Well, she comes in

and here, 63 nurse injector jobs available in Austin, Texas.

This is wow.

$29 to $56 an hour injection nurse jobs in Austin.

No hiring.

Wow.

It's called an aesthetic nurse.

So they come in and Botox you or give you some GLP-1 in the gut.

Yep.

Well,

that's the

shoot you up with steroids or can they do anything else that's worthwhile?

Well, I think that's the upsell.

This is the Austin nurse, concierge injection specialist.

It's concierge.

Concierge.

I love that.

Here we go.

The Austin nurse is an experienced injection specialist committed to providing excellence in concierge injection administration and training.

We provide help with fertility medications, anticoagulants, semaglutides like ozempic, blood glucose, and insulin injectors, and more.

Yeah.

So she'll come to your house.

She's got a blog.

Nice.

Yeah.

But this is, this is, this is the thing.

This is what people are doing.

You've heard of Botox parties, certainly.

No?

Yeah.

Women actually talk in MLs.

How many MLs did you get?

As in milliliters?

Yeah, I'd be milliliter.

Yeah.

How many MLs?

Oh, I got 10 MLs.

What do you charge per ML?

Oh, it's only $79 per ML.

It's sad.

All women are fake.

Not a single one is un-Botoxed.

I'm just guessing.

I think there's plenty of un-Botoxed gals out there.

Yeah.

What do you think about Pam Bondage?

Oh, she's definitely got Botox in the forehead.

Do you ever see her raise her eyebrows?

Nope.

Ever.

Nope.

Even when she said top guy, the eyebrows did not move.

You're the top guy.

Top guy.

Yeah, with that, I want to thank you for your courage.

Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in shaking the chain.

Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, the legendary Mr.

John C.

DeMora.

Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr.

Anne Curry, any more ships see Business and Graphic Neighbours than one of the dames and nights out there.

In the morning to the control room.

You may not make another four years, John.

Only 1890 today.

That's average to me.

Your numbers are off because ever since you started giving me crap about it, I started tracking it.

Yeah,

our last

is the classic

24 on Sunday.

No, the last 100 show average is 1904.

Yeah, well, that's not the number I've ever heard.

Yeah, but I'm looking at the the numbers, baby.

I got the numbers.

Yeah, you got numbers, but they're not the numbers you've been reading for the last 10 years.

Yes.

When you do the numbers, you can go back and listen to the past shows: it's 1,600, 1,700, 1,800, 1,800, 1,800.

The number of times you've said 1,900 for a Thursday show is so low.

It's like maybe

once every few months, but somehow it's the average.

I call bogus.

You can call whatever you want.

Bogus.

Speaking of

old shows,

I have a throwback.

You want to do

a special bonus clip?

Sure.

And this is, well, and then I have to play this.

It's two clips.

I have to play the setup clip first.

And the setup clip is something that we all probably heard about.

A year from now, 23andMe will be.

A year from now, 23andMe will be growing and thriving.

Five years from now, 23andMe will be.

Will transform healthcare.

That was Ann Wojitski, CEO of the genetic testing company 23andMe.

She told us that back in November, and now there's word that Ann has resigned and 23andMe has filed for bankruptcy protection.

Nancy Chin is here with what this means for customers.

Nancy, when I woke up to this news this morning, I was so sad and disappointed to hear it because I know how hard Ann worked and I know how much she loves this company.

And there's a lot of customers who have also loved it for a long time, so big surprising news for many.

But the DNA.

No one loved the company

for a long time.

I love 23andMe.

Yeah, I kept getting it.

I use their services all the time, every couple weeks.

I love this company.

It makes no sense.

And there's a lot of customers who have also loved it for a long time.

So big surprising news for many.

But the DNA testing company 23andMe has been facing serious financial challenges for months now.

Last fall, it announced major corporate restructuring, and that's when concerns of what could happen to users' data started surfacing.

On Friday, the Attorney General of California, where 23andMe is headquartered, urged customers to request their information be purged.

He says they should consider invoking their rights and directing the company to delete their data and destroy samples of their genetic material.

He said, if 23andMe were involved in a bankruptcy, merger, or sale, personal data may also be sold or transferred.

Oh, say it ain't so, really?

Episode 599 of the best podcast in the universe, September 29th, 2013, is when we gave our first of many warnings about this.

Here's what I want you to be cognizant of.

When you sign up for 23andMe and you get on your little social network and sharing your little genetic defects, be wary as to who else has that information.

And at some point in the future, Bill Gates might be going, Well,

is that you?

Yes, that's me.

What a muddy mic.

Dangerous.

Well, it was, to be fair, it was 12 years ago.

You know, I didn't have the great mic that we soon will be showing everybody.

You walked right into that one, pal.

I did.

Why don't you just throw it?

Here, let me get a couple more softballs here to toss you.

How about a book?

How about a book?

Or just the website.

Since we're doing a donation segment, Dvorak.org slash NA is not where you want to go.

You want to go to.

You can go there.

It's got stuff.

It's got outdated.

It's got outdated links.

It's got the PayPal links don't work anymore.

Come on.

Okay, I'm fixing that site tomorrow.

If you don't fix it, Thomas.

There you go.

I will stick my finger in the holes.

If it's not fixed, I'm not doing a show.

That's it.

I'm done.

I'm boycotting the show.

If you don't fix the website.

Thank you, trolls, who are hanging out in the troll room.

Everyone's writing it down in their own red books.

Yeah, there you go.

The trolls are listening at trollroom.io, or perhaps they are even on one of those modern podcast apps, which are quite swanky indeed.

You can't very swanky.

People are like, wow, what app is that?

Oh, that's my modern podcast app, of course.

Oh, that's beautiful.

What does it do?

Well, it alerts me when my favorite shows go live, including on the No Agenda Stream.

And you can listen to it live in the app.

What?

You can do that in that app, in a podcast app?

Oh, yeah.

And when my favorite podcasts, when they publish a show, within 90 seconds, I know exactly it's there.

Boom, I get an alert.

What?

I'm on Apple, and sometimes it takes hours.

That's why you want to go to podcastapps.com, everybody.

It's enhancements brought to you by the friendly folks at podcastindex.org.

Value for value is how we continue to somehow muddle through

our last four years or our four more years, I should say.

People send me links like, you said that when Trump won the first time.

That's correct.

But now we mean it for real.

Four more years.

And

so we

don't have ads, although people have found some interesting loopholes in our system, which is they have loopholes indeed.

Some really good loopholes.

People are like, hey, man, I'm making the killing of my business through that no agenda show.

It's fantastic.

Here's what you do.

You become an executive producer.

Or, sadly, cheap associate executive producers.

The cheap associate.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The loophole is phenomenal.

I love it.

And now the way you can support the show is multi-pronged.

You can support us with your time, your talent, or your treasure.

And time and talent, you know, people send clip ideas.

It always helps when they send time codes.

That's really highly appreciated.

People do organized meetups.

They do jingles and show mixes.

There's tons of stuff that people do.

Run servers for us everywhere.

Servers are running everywhere, like noagendaartgenerator.com, which is where you can upload.

And

it's had its ups and downs throughout the years, but

generally, I mean, I don't know if they maintain it, but

I'd say it's a good deal for us.

We don't have to hire someone to maintain it.

And then we have the artists themselves who create this artwork for us.

And then we use that to draw attention to the show.

It makes us look fresh every single time.

And we looked funky fresh with the artwork for episode 1749.

We titled that show Gynocracy, or as I like to say, gynecracy.

And it was Sir Shug, aka Fo Diddley, who came in with the winning piece that we picked, The Flexibilize

live from Ursula Studios, which was it was a poppy piece.

You know,

it was definitely related to the show, and it popped all kinds of boys and girls dancing.

You know, there were flexibilities.

Did you get the note from the woman who used to be a jazzer-size person and sent the original art?

No.

Oh, yeah.

One of our one of our producers had something something to do with the original art, which was Jazzer size.

Really?

It had the same dancers, only they were kind of different, slightly different.

No way.

And the same basic logo.

This is where it came from.

Oh, so it's a rip-off.

It's a rip-off.

She thought it was a compliment.

Well, of course it's a compliment.

That's so cool.

But it was a rip-off.

But I'm wondering whether Sir Shug

developed it by hand.

Because to do a rip-off, you have to have the original and you develop a kind of a copy of it or AI actually copied it.

Could be, could be.

I got an AI story for you for later.

Yeah, I saw you have AI.

I have a couple AI clips.

Good.

You do your clips.

I'll bring the story.

I don't know about that.

I do.

I mean, I'm in control.

Who's driving?

You're like the DEI hire on the show.

I'm the shotgun.

You're the DEI hire.

I'm the DEI guy.

Shut up.

No laughing.

No laughing.

So we appreciate that.

Of course, we use many of the pieces of art for our chapter artwork, which Dreb Scott diligently does for every single show.

We appreciate that very much.

We looked at a couple other things.

Creepy was Helmet Hair by Blue Acorn, which was Ursula.

That was an AI job, but that was pretty interesting how it turned out.

Yes, everybody liked to harangue me about, oh, The Hague is the new Dutch capital.

It's not Amsterdam.

That's actually contentious.

We talked about it after the show.

It's not a pure capital.

It was like a...

No, it turns out that there's two capitals of Holland.

Yes.

And it turns out, and then we also did a little research after the show.

And it turns out that there's about 10 countries

that have dual capitals.

Because the technical description of a capital is where the government has its seat.

That was the term.

It was a strange term.

Yeah, we looked at it.

I think we used AI to do the research.

Really?

Well, then I don't trust you.

You used Chat GPT.

What are you talking about?

You're always doing that.

That's exactly what I want to talk about when you play your AI clips.

There was a term.

I can't remember what the term was.

Yeah.

So

Holland has two capital.

The origin of this capital confusion goes back to the Middle Ages back then.

The Hague was the seat of the government for the country of Holland and the courts of Holland.

Amsterdam was just your ordinary

up-and-coming center of trade.

Anyway, fine.

All right.

Fine, everybody.

Do funny artwork.

I'm good.

I'll say I was wrong.

I'll say I was wrong.

We were wrong.

Technically, the capital is where the government seats.

And what else did we have?

There was

deep fake nudes.

No, there was e-meter girls.

Got a nice note.

We got a couple of notes from Scientologists.

Hello, Scientologists.

Yeah, we have a number of Scientologists that were chuckling about our e-mayer.

Well, even the producer who gave us

the E-meters, he still listens.

I love that.

Yeah, I think that's funny.

Yeah, the thing is, it turns out,

we didn't mention this necessarily, but I forgot about it.

He says his dad was a big shot in Scientology, and he had a bunch of these e-meters, and he couldn't sell them, get rid of them after his dad died.

Because if you try to sell them on eBay, the Scientology community goes after you and makes life miserable.

Oh, no.

They knock on your door and say, hey,

don't give away our data.

So the guy says, hell with it.

I'll just send him to these two bozos.

And so he sends us a couple of these e-meters.

And we still have them.

We still have them.

Within reach.

I'm using them all the time.

So I got another note from another Scientologist who made the point.

He said, you should charge the E-meter

to make the battery last longer because we probably haven't charged the thing ever.

No, I have not.

Oh, I should do that.

Also, I got another note from,

and I shouldn't say he's a Scientologist, but people who are members of the Church of Scientology

and said.

So that would be a Scientologist.

Yeah, well,

that's not how he introduced himself.

And he said, you have a lot of,

okay, I'll use your term.

You have a lot of Scientologists listening to the show because there's a big crossover with you guys

between

your stance on vaccines, et cetera, other pharmaceutical products,

then it was something else.

Your desire to have tax-free income, I think, was the other thing.

I'm not sure.

It was some

something like that.

It makes sense.

So, hello.

Hello, Scientologists.

You're welcome.

Everybody's welcome here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We've never had a problem with anybody.

And we got some free e-meters.

Hey, it beats

a punch in the head.

Free E-meters.

Like I said to the guy, I got the E-meter, but we didn't get the pretty girl with it.

So

that's what it was.

So thank you very much, Sir Shog, aka Fo Diddley.

We appreciate your support of the show, as always.

And that brings us to our executive and associate executive producers.

We'd like to thank them separately, just like Hollywood does.

You know,

I watched another movie.

I watched Flight Risk, which is Mark Wahlberg.

Is this another movie you watch without Tina because she doesn't watch these kinds of movies.

No,

the last Wahlberg movie you watched was pretty dumb.

So I think if I had suggested another one, she might not have gone for it.

But it was really good.

And a lot of it

took place in a Cessna airplane.

And at the end, boom, credits.

Executive producer and director, Mel Gibson.

Like, wow.

He's running for governor.

Of what state?

California.

Really?

Yep.

Wow.

That would be.

I think he might be able to even get the job.

Wow.

Wow.

Because if Kamala Harris runs, there's going to be a backlash against her because nobody likes her.

No.

And people always like to, you know, let's give him a shot.

What's it going to, how bad can it be?

It's Mel.

He's pretty successful with movies.

Yeah, he knows what he's doing.

So we thank everybody $50 and above, so you can keep track at home if

you feel called to do that.

But we really just like to thank people

and

share with you the support that they have given because it does keep the show going for four more years.

$200 or above, you get a credit like Hollywood, an associate executive producer credit, and that is good for your lifetime.

You can use it anywhere, put it anywhere.

If anyone questions that, we will vouch for you.

You can use it on your resume, as an example.

$300 and above, we will give you an executive producer credit.

And in both cases, we'll read your note if it's within reason and not too long.

Oh, we've got a long one here today, I see.

And that gives you the same credit, which you can then use on imdb.com.

So we'll start off with our first and

top guy, top

executive producer of episode 1750, the Archduke of Central Florida.

I don't remember his actual pre-Duke name, but he lives in Winter Park, Florida.

And he came in with, actually, he gets a double credit for this because he also gets a show number donation, 1750.

Yeah, that was a good one.

Which he says here for here heretofore known as the Blofeld donation from Archduke of Central Florida.

Keep up the Queen Ursula clips.

Very informative.

Five more years, he says.

Oh, he's he's skimping five more years.

Five more years.

Well, if we get more people that donated $17.50 every show, we'd probably do five more years.

Explain the Blofeld donation because I don't.

I forgot.

I don't know.

I don't remember.

What is Blofeld?

Blofeld was one of the evil characters in the early James Bond movies.

Oh, okay.

Well, now it's Stavros Blofeld.

He always used to have

a big white cat, and he would wear this gray outfit, and he had a scar on his face, and he was bald, and he was nasty.

Thank you very much, Archduke of Central Florida.

And yes, we will now call this the Blofeld donation, 1750.

Clifford

Remersma.

I would say it's Reimersma.

Reamersma.

Reamersma in Milwaukee,

Wisconsin.

$350.93.

Just bought a pair of work boots for $330.

Wow.

I figure it's time to invest in another

luxury that helps me through the workday.

That's the show.

The No Agenda Show.

That's 333.33 plus fees.

Wow.

Two-thirds to the knighthood.

Two-thirds of the way to the knighthood.

Could I get a relationship karma, please?

Yeah, absolutely.

He totally understands the system.

You've got karma.

That's exactly how you should see the show.

He got something out of it and he put it right back in.

That's the value from value model right there.

Yeah, he looked at his shoes.

He said, these are 300 bucks.

They're going to protect, but he probably has steel toes.

And he said,

well, you know, this is protecting my brain.

I have one rule rule

which Tina and I adhere to.

If you're using anything on a daily basis, you should might as well get a good one.

So if it's a mattress, if it's a pillow, if it's your cutting board, if it's

things that you use every single day, and if you're listening to a podcast twice a week for a total of six over six hours, you might as well make sure it continues.

You want it to be the best podcast in the universe, so you need to support us.

That's my logic.

I think that's a good one.

333.33 from Meister Chit Chat in Russellville, Arkansas.

And he has a very complicated note.

Good evening or morning salutations, amazing gentlemen.

Okay.

More brevity is appreciated.

Thank you for your service.

I'd like that.

It's courage.

I'd like to clarify my previous donation was a 333.33 switcheroo with fees included.

So is this one.

Miss Eclectic Chit Chat of Harmony Homestead.

This donation is also a switcheroo for the same Miss Chit Chat.

Okay, so let me put Mrs.

Chitch Chat.

Mrs.

Chitchat.

Let me put in Mrs.

Chitchat.

There we go.

I must make it clear that we engage corporately without prejudice for our firstborn to be named after you without prejudice.

Our son will be named Gabriel Nolan of God, a hero or champion.

Thanks to you, and four more years, he will be instrumental in bringing more souls to the Creator during this time of turmoil.

Is your name Gabriel?

I guess

Adam Gabriel Curry.

Thank you, both, and all of Noah General.

We can begin the the next phase of our parentage after four years of

IVF effort.

Oh, wow.

All right.

Expensive and tedious.

Yes.

No success until we underwent a dedouching.

A dedouching did it.

And lupron endometriosis treatment.

I think it was the dedouching.

My wife is now over one-third of motherhood and two-thirds of damehood.

If you're an Alaskan needing dental work, check out mustachiods.com.

Mustachiods.com.

Mustachiods.com.

We make your teeth.

I'm guessing he's got a mustache.

We make your teeth look good.

Needing psychiatric help, RPI, or looking for off-grid or gardening help?

Harmony Homestead on Facebook or Snapchat.

Wow, that is a broad spectrum of services.

Sorry for the obtuse note.

Use ITM on the phone for a stackable 10% discount on total treatment plan at Atkins Dental Clinic.

Woo, no jingles, no karma.

Everything above was long enough, he says.

Yes, Sir Meister Chit Chat of Harmony hosted Homestead.

Thank you.

Thank you, Sir Meister Chit-Chat.

Great note.

Very entertaining.

Well, let's

contrast that with Chap Williams in Edmond, Oklahoma, who came with 333.33.

That was a check with no note.

And so he gets a double-up karma.

And here we go.

Double up for the karmas.

You've got

double up

karma.

And 333 from Sir Tanley.

Sir Tanley, Port Orange, Florida.

ITM Gen, so much to say, so little time, so I'll keep it short.

Keep up the good work, boys.

You've kept me listening twice a week since 2016.

And this donation is a switcheroo for my wife, Stormy.

All right, Switcheroo has been engaged.

Happy 17 anniversary, babe.

You are my ride or die.

A family that no agendas together stays together.

And the weather app we've been working on has finally hit the Apple App Store.

You want to try your hand at predicting the weather in your hometown?

Then install Weather champs.

Win forecast coins.

Enter sweepstakes and be crowned the weather champ.

Use code weather friend for 50% off an annual subscription.

Coming to Android in the next few weeks.

No jingles, no karma.

Sir Tanley, the weather champ.

Oh, well, when it's on Android, let me know.

I'll try it out.

The weather champ.

And I can win forecast coins, John.

Yeah, good.

You can use them.

Eli the coffee guy's up.

He's in Bensonville, Illinois, $23.20.

And he says, Well, news agency

railed against the administration for deporting an innocent pro-Palestine activist for exercising his free speech.

You guys called out

Mahmoud Khalil for being a spook.

That's a type of deconstruction that makes no agenda truly the best podcast in the universe.

Thank you for the insight.

Jingle, spot the spook.

George Clooney's the spy.

For producers, by the way, spooks or otherwise, in need of great coffee, visit gigawattcoffee roasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off your order.

Stay caffeinated.

Eli the Coffee Guy.

Spot the spook.

Spot the spook.

Everybody wants to spot the spook.

George Clooney, George Clooney, George Clooney is a spy.

Yeah, man, I really get them today, don't I?

Day Mary Moon, Prairieville, Louisiana.

Everyone, this is the best day ever.

$200 associate executive producership for her.

And it's a switcheroo for my hubby, Sir Juklaw.

Okay.

All right, Sir Juklaw.

All right, so we'll put Sir Juklaw in there.

Perfect.

Welp, good job on the No Agenda artwork you picked on Sunday.

Oh, we were just talking about it.

It prompted my donation.

See, this is why Time Talent Treasure works.

It works

in so many different ways, sometimes unexpected.

I'm not sure if you realize it or not.

Possibly it will be discussed on Thursday, but the graphic is clearly a knockoff of, oh, this is the note, of the original Jazzer size artwork.

Jazzer size.

I'm sending you the original so you can compare the similarities.

I'm not mad about the similarities, quite the contrary.

I have been a jazzer size instructor for 15 years, and I own two jazzer size studios in South Louisiana.

It is the best workout program around.

Ladies of Noah Jen the Nation, head over to your local jazzer size studio.

We have 8,000 locations.

What?

I need to get the Fredericksburg franchise license.

We have 8,000 locations and we're in nearly every state in over 110 countries to experience the original dance fitness workout.

I've been making people dance, sweat, and smile for over 55 years.

By the way, guys, you too can take our classes.

We don't discriminate.

We're not the ginocracy.

Thanks, John and Adam, and the artists who donated their time and talent for making my morning a little sunnier when I saw the artwork pop up.

That's from Dame Mary Moon.

How about that?

There it is.

So that's why I never saw the note because I didn't get it.

That's what happened there.

It's amazing the people that listen to this show

and produce it.

Yeah, we do.

We do have including Linda Lupatkins in Lakewood, Colorado.

And she once came with 200 bucks and asks for jobs karma and says, for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.

That's ImageMakers Inc.

with a K.

And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs, and writer of resumes.

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

You've got karma.

And there it is again.

Another long note with a switcheroo.

This is crazy.

This is crazy.

Switcheroo.

This is from Caitlin Meyer of Los Angeles, California.

And switcheroo for Lady Linda of Los Angeles.

Mira Kebura, happy birthday.

And that is today.

So on the list.

Your Cara de Chucho face of a brother and his wife are putting in the big one for you, so don't ever say we did nothing for you.

We're taking a note from Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes, and Eli the coffee guy, and giving you a big shout-out in front of the best podcast listeners in the universe.

That's interesting.

Now we have people who use a service or a product advertising it.

This is great.

That's a double switcheroo.

And Caitlin Meyer asks, have you got money on your mind?

Why?

Let Lady Linda get your money to work for you.

If you peruse Instagram for your next overseas adventure, flip those magazines in the waiting room and see for yourself on that tranquil shoreline and get your finances in order.

The money you have today can start working to send you there tomorrow.

Contact Linda.

She cares and she's good.

That's linda.gata at nm.com.

Linda.gaita, g-a-e-t-a at n-m.com.

Wow.

I might have to withdraw the money from Horowitz and give it to Linda because she cares and she's good.

We request jobs, Karma, for the birthday girl.

Here's to another great trip around the sun.

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

Wow.

That was pretty amazing.

Very, very interesting executive and associate executive producers.

Thank you so much for supporting the No Agenda Show episode 1750.

We appreciate that.

And as of Sunday, you'll be able to go to know

Dvorak.org slash an A and set up your recurring donation.

But just in case, remember this NoAgendadonations.com, that's where you can support us.

We'll be thanking people who support us.

$50 and above in our second segment.

And yes, you can do a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency.

It's up to you.

You determine the value.

Make the number matter to you because we love numerology here on the best podcast in the universe.

Noagendadonations.com.

Thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers.

Our formula is this:

We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

All right, two little quick fun fun clips, two little quick fun clips, quickies, little quickies, little quickies.

Sure.

A little AOC gaff.

And this isn't just about Republicans.

We need a Democratic Party that fights harder for us to.

Your future president, ladies and gentlemen.

AOC.

Yeah, this is what she's thinking.

That's what's on her mind.

And then this one from Jasmine Crockett.

Everyone's losing their mind over this.

I think this is way overblown.

A congresswoman from North Texas is causing controversy over recent comments she made about Governor Abbott.

Fox's Stephen Dial explains: Well this Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is being called out by other elected officials for her comments last Saturday at a human rights campaign event.

Y'all know we got Governor High Wheels down there.

Come on now.

And the only thing hot about him is that he is a hot mess.

Referring to Governor Greg Abbott as Hot Wheels.

Abbott was partially paralyzed when a tree fell on him decades ago.

I think this is stupid.

It's actually a cool name.

I think Governor Hot Wheels is pretty funny.

Everybody, oh, outrage.

Oh, I can't believe she said that she made fun of the man in the wheelchair.

How hypocritical is that?

Like when Trump makes fun of people's ears and eyes and height and their whatever, oh, it's great.

This is actually, you know, I have to say,

as a nickname, I think it's pretty cool.

I'm going to call him Governor Hot Wheels from now on.

Okay.

What did you think?

Did you think anything of this at all?

I know you asked me.

No, I know everybody talked about this.

I thought it was, I think you're right.

It was overblown.

I do

think it was kind of at the she gave it at a human rights convention which i think that was the wrong audience well there's that i mean it was like you know ableist kind of thing so wow

you are the dei hire you use the term ableist yeah i'm just because that's the nature of when she says it i think the venue was wrong and so she wasn't thinking but she's a dummy so who cares what she says it was it still was funny

it is funny and i think high wheels is a good nickname for the guy.

Yeah.

I never see him moving very fast on that thing.

Well, that's kind of the funny part.

It's like this is what you do.

You give people nicknames based upon their physical appearance.

And we do this all the time on the show.

Yes, we do it all the time.

Okay.

But we're not in front of a human rights convention.

We do it.

Well, we are in front of Scientologists.

I mean, yeah, it's true.

And we give the Scientologists.

We haven't really given anyone grief.

No.

Do they really donate the Scientologists or they don't they do they

you know it's

a question

we'll have to take a look I'll have to go back to this research let's do a little couple I got a couple of clips which got to have a kind of a little gotcha in here that I think is worth talking about this is about religious quitting this is on in they did a special and people that are they they're brought up in a religion then they quit.

Oh, no.

People around the world are switching religions or leaving religion altogether.

A new study from Pew Research finds that large portions of adults no longer practice the faith in which they were raised.

Pew surveyed nearly 80,000 people in 36 countries, NPR religion correspondent Jason DeRose reports.

Switching is especially common in East Asia, Europe, and the Americas.

Kirsten Lesage is the study's lead author.

Out of the 36 countries that we surveyed in, the three countries with the highest rates of religious switching are South Korea, Spain, and Canada.

In South Korea, Pew found that 50% 50% of respondents had changed religions.

In Spain, 40% said they'd left their childhood faith.

In Canada, the number is 38%.

By comparison, in the U.S., 28% switched.

Lesage says two religions were most affected.

The religious groups that have had the largest losses from religious switching are Christianity and Buddhism.

Lesage says the change is particularly acute in parts of Europe.

For example, Italy has the highest ratio of people leaving to people joining Christianity.

For every one person who becomes Christian, about 28 Italians are leaving the religion.

The biggest gains were among those who have no religious affiliation, which is a group that includes atheists, agnostics, and those who describe themselves as nothing in particular.

So it's not the case that people are necessarily switching from one religion to the next.

For example, there's not a lot of switching from Christianity into Islam.

Rather, Lesage says, most switching is people leaving religion altogether.

Yeah, well, this is an interesting choice of words, but maybe I should hold my

white Christian nationalist perspective until the second clip.

Yeah, I would say, because

I have the sense that they're trying to slam the Christians here in some funny way.

And I think the second clip has an

has an exemplification of that.

And it's a tricky one.

And we'll listen to it, and then I'll ask you a question.

Ooh, a question.

Well, let me go and walk away from the microphone, so at least we're fair.

Meanwhile, specific religions in some countries appear to be stickier than others.

Pew found very small percentages of the overall adult population have left or joined Islam in most of the countries surveyed.

And nearly all people who were raised.

Joined or left Islam?

Hold on, sorry.

Very few people leave Islam.

Pew found very small percentages of the overall adult population have left or joined Islam in most of the countries surveyed, and nearly all people who were raised Hindu in India and Bangladesh still identify as Hindu today.

Judaism's retention rate is also high.

In Israel, 100% of people Pew surveyed who were raised Jewish still identify religiously as Jewish.

In the U.S., 76% of those raised Jewish still identify that way today,

with most American Jews who've left the faith now identifying as unaffiliated.

Pew also found that 19% of U.S.

adults raised as Christian now identify as religiously unaffiliated.

Jason DeRose, NPR News.

All right.

Interesting report from Pew.

So I'm going to ask you the question.

Okay.

Why do you think more Christians have become unaffiliated

in the United States than Jews?

Oh, I can answer the first question, but the second one, well,

you are a Jew.

This is not

just a religion.

They consider themselves to be part of a population group and also not white.

Well,

wrong.

According to Pew, what did Pugh say?

Pugh said that more Jews than Christians have left the faith in the United States.

But you heard it differently, didn't you?

Sure did.

The fact that you could answer that, try to answer a question that was a misleading question based on what you thought you heard.

Wow.

Do I need to listen to that again to hear it correctly?

I'll explain what they did, then you can listen again.

That was a good question.

What they did was they did the old switch

where they gave you the wrong side of the equation, and you had to do the math in your head to understand

what the

leaving rate was.

And then they gave you the right side of the equation.

This is NPR, by the way.

And then they gave you the right side of the equation for the Christian part of it.

In fact, if you listen carefully,

24%

of the Jews left, and 19% of the Christians left the faith.

Let me hear the.

It's in the second clip or in the first clip?

It's in the second clip right at the end.

Let me move it forward a little bit.

That was, wow, I got duped.

Pew surveyed who were raised Jewish still identify religious.

I guess to go back a little bit.

Still identify as Hindu today.

Judaism's retention rate is also high.

In Israel, 100% of people Pew surveyed who were raised Jewish still identify religiously as Jewish.

In the U.S., 76% of those raised Jewish still identify that way today, with most American Jews who've left the faith now identifying as unaffiliated.

Pew also found that 19% of U.S.

adults raised as Christian now identify as religiously unaffiliated.

Jason DeRose, NPR News.

Good catch.

Wow.

This This is why I teased this early in the show.

With the half a decade?

With the half a decade.

This is the kind of stuff that NPR pulls.

There's no reason for them to do it that way, to say 76% and then

stayed and then 19% left for the Christian side.

It gives you the sense that the Christians are bailing out.

And in fact, the opposite is actually true.

And that's why

you thought you answered a question that really really was a faulty question based on the bull crap.

Wow.

Well,

thank you.

That was very good.

That is media deconstruction at its finest.

I tip my hat to you, sir.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

I will say the thing that I was focused on is the term religion.

Religion, I am not religious.

I do not belong to a religion.

And also when they say, well, all these Christians in Rome, well, you know, their religion is Catholicism.

It is, in fact, and I do track this and I talk to different pastors about this.

We are seeing record numbers of people leaving the Baptist church and the Catholic church, and they're going non-denominational or just are believers and have faith.

So I think the whole study is somewhat skewed because if you actually look at the Zoomers, they're buying Bibles like no one else's business.

It's up over 20% in the past year.

Yeah, I think that's veering off what the topic was.

I think they were specifically talking about religion.

Religion.

I know, but when you, but people who are atheists or non-believers, when they hear religion, they think, oh, church people.

But I'm not, I'm, you know, I go to a church, but it's not a religion.

Organized religion, if anything, is a problem, in my opinion.

And

it's not been good for the Pope.

Italian doctor who led the hospital team that cared for Pope Francis is giving giving new insight into the seriousness of the Pope's recent health battle.

Professor Sergio Alfieri told an Italian newspaper that doctors considered ending his treatment.

The critical moment came on February 28th when the Pope had a breathing crisis.

The choice was whether to stop treatment and let him pass or try more aggressive drugs and therapies that come with a very high risk of damaging other organs.

Man, we didn't hear that report that he almost died.

It was all like, oh, he's going to be okay.

He's just, he's just, he just inhaled some puke.

It's okay.

It's all right.

He's hanging in there.

He almost died.

They almost pulled him off the system.

The Pope was aware that there was a chance that he might not survive the night, according to the doctor who was then instructed to try everything and not give up.

Back here at home, Dr.

David Manoff at Temple University Hospital Jeans Campus says this type of scenario is not uncommon.

Once you are

really, really sick and in an ICU, sometimes some of the things that we really have to do are to prioritize what the most life-threatening organ failure is going to be at that time, even if some of the things that we do potentially come at the potential for injury to other organ systems.

So, Dr.

Manoff says the Pope has a long road to recovery.

Pope Francis was discharged on Sunday after 38 days in the hospital.

Man,

that was pretty serious.

Gives me more time to think about the next Pope.

Yeah, that's a good, just a break for you.

I'm narrowing it down.

There's three candidates.

Three candidates.

I'm getting close.

I'm not even going to ask you to tease it.

No.

I have international news just a little bit.

International news, everybody.

Wait a minute.

I'm guessing maybe it is the BBC World Service.

Yes.

This is good stuff.

Now, this is the South.

All hell's breaking loose that we're not being told about.

It's amazing, actually.

Let's start with South Sudan.

The UN mission in South Sudan has warned that the arrest of first Vice President Riyak Machar has brought the country to the brink of another civil war.

The renewed political violence began last month.

Paddy Maguire reports.

The arrest of President Salva Kiir's long-term rival at his residence in Juba is a dramatic escalation.

In a statement, the head of UNMIS said rising tensions between factions loyal to Mr.

Machar, a former rebel leader, and the forces of Mr.

Kir were jeopardising the 2018 peace agreement.

Nearly 400,000 people died in five years of devastating civil war before the power-sharing deal was signed.

As that deal unravels and the violence escalates, some 50,000 South Sudanese citizens have already been displaced.

Oh, will they be passionate at the universities about this?

No, of course not.

They don't care.

Nobody cares about this stuff.

So here we go to the other one: it's Pakistan.

Oh, I also have an Africa clip, actually.

Pakistan, okay.

Senior police in Balochistan say at least six people were killed on Wednesday in a spate of coordinated attacks in Pakistan's restless southwestern province.

According to the French news agency, police accused gunmen of targeting bus passengers on the basis of their ethnicity.

A member of the security forces was among those killed.

Local press reported explosions and trucks being set on fire in various parts of the province.

Separatist insurgents have stepped up their activity against Pakistani security forces in recent weeks.

No protests about that either.

Yeah, no one cares about that.

Except us.

And the Sudan thing is even funnier about people not caring.

400,000 people killed.

No, who cares?

Who cares?

Interesting.

Do we have the same clip here?

Because I have one Africa clip because, you know, manga make African news great again.

This USAID, Uganda, BBC?

Well, let's try it.

As a federal judge in the US, blocks the Trump administration from taking further steps to shut down the U.S.

Agency for International Development, we'll be asking what that means in practice for people on the ground running health programs in Uganda.

Ah, well, I happen to have an answer.

Well, there you go.

Yes, and this answer in the African News segment from the No Agenda World Service.

We should do our own thing.

Now, from the No Agenda World Service, we go to Africa.

And what do we learn in Africa?

This is from the former

African Union Ambassador to the United States.

Her name is

Arikana Chihomburi Kwau.

We need to understand the real reason why USAID is in Africa.

And not just USAID, but other NGOs.

You look at DIFIT, which is the British equivalent, and many other smaller ones.

Their sole purpose was to act as if...

They're coming to rescue Africa.

They are coming in claiming that they're introducing grassroots initiatives that are are going to help the people.

And so they use that as a way to go into the most remote parts of Africa.

When you look at it on paper, it all looks really good.

But they're actually wolf in sheep's clothing.

They are using that open access, sounding humanitarian, to constantly destabilize governments.

I can tell you right now, the majority of African leaders, and not just African leaders, but leaders in the developing world, are celebrating the exit of USID.

If you think about it, their sole purpose, for example, filling in the gaps in healthcare and education.

Where is the change?

Show me one country that USID was in and education improved.

Show me what country where USID was in and healthcare improved.

The social services they're bringing, it's peanuts.

The American taxpayer needs to know the billions of dollars that are being given to USAID.

A fraction is making it to the people.

Oh, there you go.

Straight from the horse's mouth.

Not like we didn't know that.

No, we knew it.

We had a note from one of our producers.

I wish I could could find it because I was going to

discuss it.

Yeah, I remember the notes.

We actually got a couple of good notes.

We got some good notes.

The guy says, he says he was in Africa, and the USAID guys came in with a bunch of stuff.

Mosquito nets, mosquito nets, mosquito nets, and they took a bunch of pictures of them with the, you know, here's the pictures of us with the guys, and then they left and left them high and dry, saying they were only there for a photo op.

Yeah.

Do your AI clips because then we can

wrap this up.

These clips, I don't know if this is going to work with what you have to talk about.

Well, maybe.

This is about AI in libraries and the benefit that it could provide.

And I think this is accurate stuff.

And this is mostly the first clip is Brewster Cayley, who is at the

head of

the archive.org.

Is it Kaylee?

Kale?

Kale, I think it's pronounced.

I know the guy, but he won't.

He won't take your call anymore.

No, he won't take your call.

Because you're typical.

You're a podcast.

Your podcast.

Yeah, I went from

important writer to podcaster, and that was the end of that.

You were an important writer, award-winning.

It was important.

Award-winning.

Instant best bestseller.

Instant bestseller.

Yeah, of course you did.

I know you did.

Yeah.

Instant bestseller.

Yes, instant.

Here we go.

You're right.

We're digitizing all of these pest reports from Africa for over the last century.

And people are probably not going to be the primary readers of this, but our machines can.

So, not only just search engines for going and helping people find it and then using digital interlibrary loan, which is fantastic and it's going on now, but we now have these technologies, the AI technologies, that allows these to be put in new and different ways to go and correlate information across texts that have spanned over centuries and to be able to try to make that more digestible, more learnable, more browsable, more interactable than ever before.

The opportunity of our digital libraries coming and being useful to people because of these new technologies is just fantastic.

Was that Brewster?

I think so.

So funny.

It goes on and on with part two.

There's a three-parter.

They're not much I can say.

And are you talking about your own AI engine or using somebody else's?

Well, lots of people are downloading.

Hold on.

What it sounds like to me, is he pitching selling archive.org to AI companies?

Is that what I'm hearing here?

I didn't hear that in the clip, but it's quite possible.

And are you talking about your own AI engine or using somebody else's?

Well, lots of people are downloading lots of things from the Internet Archive and putting them in the big commercial systems, but pretty much just the open materials because of all the copyright and lawsuits problems that we have in the United States.

In Europe, they've specifically encouraged cultural heritage institutions and research organizations to work together to use these for new and different things.

So that's why I'm in Amsterdam right now working with these research organizations to make use of these materials because there's regulatory clarity in Europe towards having a blossoming of our library collections and bringing them to life.

He's got an agenda here for sure.

Well, his agenda is he's getting sued left and right by these.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, and I can't say it's,

I mean,

whenever, here's a little trick.

I have a,

this is a tip of the day.

I have a browser plug-in.

It's called archive page,

and I have it on my Bravo browser.

And so, whenever I hit a Wall Street,

whenever I hit a

whenever I hit a Wall Street Journal article or anything like that, I hit my

archive page browser plug-in, and it will immediately find that page, which has then been archived by someone who apparently paid for it or archived it before it was behind whatever paywall.

And boom, you got the whole page right there.

You can read it, no problem.

That is a good tip.

Somebody else sent a similar tip that I'm not going to use today, but maybe we should gang him up and do the two tips

in an upcoming show.

Let's wrap it with the third of these clips.

I want to look at another aspect of this, which is that we shouldn't forget that libraries preserve and make available many things other than books or magazines.

For example, at the U.S.

Library of Congress, less than a quarter of the objects held are books.

So, what about web pages, for instance, Brewster?

They do tend to appear and disappear with an alarming speed, don't they?

The average life of a web page is about 100 days before it's changed or deleted.

It completely changes how we go and build our collections.

We have to do it preemptively, just in case that might be useful.

We collect over 1 billion URLs every day.

The number of web pages in the Wayback machine is now 900 billion.

The scale of it is a little hard to understand, but it's just trying to record what's going on out there just so that we can basically have our own history just requires a different view of how we see our old-fashioned trade of archivists and librarians.

Huh.

Well,

I certainly think he has an awesome index.

He has a very crappy way to search.

I mean, unless you have a...

It's just out of search is no good.

It's no good.

But this is.

In fact, if you could really search that thing, there's a lot of value in that.

In fact, they also have the thing about that collection is he has a collection of 78s.

Yes, we've talked about this.

Unbelievable.

And not only that, but he has a bunch of these nutballs out there who have fixed a lot of these, I mean, using modern

software.

Fixed a lot of the 78s so there's no pops or crackles or end of fidelity is better.

It's a lot of work to do

any of those, let alone a lot of them.

And there's two or three guys that have been doing it just kind of consistently.

I guess maybe they do a few every day.

The collection of 78s is is unbelievable.

Do you remember when the MTV News webpage just went off the air?

Yeah.

I downloaded the entire archive of the MTV News website from archive.org.

There's a couple of really, really good scripts out there.

I mean, because it's basically an open source resource, it would be fantastic for Anthropic or someone to really put a good search engine on top of that.

In fact, this is the trend as Google is about to do this very thing.

Google has introduced a new feature called

AI read by AI.

Called AI mode, which is an advanced chat bot designed to answer search queries.

This update is seen as Google's direct response to competitors like chat GPT, which have been gaining popularity.

When users ask a question in AI mode, Google's Gemini 2.0 AI model generates a detailed answer.

This AI system allows users to ask follow-up questions or or request additional links for more information.

Google explains that AI mode is designed to simplify complex topics by organizing data and presenting it in a clear and easy to understand format.

The company is making major improvements to its search engine by integrating the latest version of its artificial intelligence.

This change is part of Google's effort to provide faster and more expert level answers to users.

Competition in the AI search industry has been increasing, with smaller companies creating innovative ways to deliver search results.

To stay ahead, Google has decided to enhance its search engine with more powerful AI capabilities.

The Gemini 2.0 AI model will now be used to answer complicated questions, especially those related to subjects like computer programming and mathematics.

And there it is.

So first of all, yes, I just said it's an AI voice.

Everyone's like, this voice is AI.

Okay, are you listening to the show?

So

I decided to

use multiple AIs, including ChatGPT.

I did not try copilot because I had a project.

I had a

Grok.

No, I had a computer coding project, and this is what it's supposed to be good at.

And so

I run a little streaming radio station called hellofred.fm, and I run it

on a radio program called Station Playlist.

And then so it streams, and you can schedule, do clocks, you know, when you want to jingle or a different format of music, all that stuff.

And I was really interested in putting this on a Unix server and using something called LiquidSoap, which is a very,

very extensive program.

It has its all, it's a complete programming language.

It's all open source.

Thousands of people have worked on this.

There's extensive documentation.

All the syntax is very well documented, very well known.

And so I'm able to set up the server and get a basic system where it just, you know, plays one song after another.

But then I want to script and have transitions work a certain way.

I wanted to pull, you know, I want to be able to put in a format, way which songs, you know, how many song separation, that kind of stuff.

And I just can't figure it out.

So I go to the AIs and it's very friendly.

Oh, sure, Adam.

I can, and it calls me by my name.

Adam, I can help you with this, no problem.

I spent almost all of Monday and Tuesday trying to just get this thing to do a different type of crossfade.

And it took, I think I must have over 300 prompts and replies, and I keep putting the error, and it kept getting an error, and then another error.

And then all of a sudden, well, you have the wrong version of FFmpeg, so I'm recompiling FFmpeg from source.

And then it's like, well, you need to recompile the kernel.

None of these things could actually help me write a successful script.

It sucks.

This is the whole point.

It's supposed to make people be able to code.

Mathematics, code.

They said it right there.

It does it.

It was good.

It does a horrible job.

You walked right into it.

And

I even said, here's the documentation.

Oh, yes, I'm very aware of this documentation.

And then it'll be like, oh, no, that seems like we have a problem.

You're using a different version of what time to step down from FFmpeg 5.5.1 to 4.4.7.

It sucks.

It is a time waste.

I could have learned the language in the amount of time I put into it.

What a horrible experience.

It's going nowhere.

And welcome to the No Agenda Grievance section of the show.

I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.

Imagine all the people who could do this.

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

Yeah,

on no agenda

in the morning.

I missed a semicolon somewhere.

Yeah, that's right.

And by the way, they'll talk about grievance.

I have a grievance with today's donation segment.

We had a total of 30.

Yeah, this is crazy.

This is really crazy.

It's the shortest list we've ever had, I'd say, for at least two years.

Yeah.

And I'll read the ones from

starting with

entry number 10, actually,

and take it to entry number 30, and that would be the total for the day.

Wow.

Mark Lay in Houston, Texas, starts us off at $199.

And John W.

Schuman in Madison, Wisconsin, $184.29.

Sir Ever of the Watt in Linwood, Michigan,

$130.03.

Kevin McLaughlin, there he is right away at 8008.

He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and lover of boobs.

Boobs?

Tim Kwan, 75.

He actually came in with a Weiss

guy.

Somehow he managed to get Weiss through.

Wise is a weird app, but it basically

does

an ACH transfer somehow.

Well, if you do it, set it up at your bank.

If you do it the other way around, where you have to, where you put the onus on the show,

we can't get it.

No, of course not.

We can't get anything done.

I'd like Tim to tell me what his process was.

We can't get anything done with our bank.

No.

I love our bank, but basically.

The bank is just like, hey,

you got cash.

We'll take your cash.

We'll take your cash.

We'll take a check.

We'll get cash.

What else you got?

You can write a check.

You want gold bars.

All right.

Shut up already.

That's exactly right.

Jose Paredes in Wichita, Kansas, $69.33.

He needs a dedouching.

You've been dedouched.

And he's got a birthday coming up and he's on the list.

Bruno Freitas dosomething.

I don't have it on here.

Oh, hold on.

Brunos Freitas dos Santos.

Dos Santos in San Francisco, $52.72, which is $50 donation.

Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina, $52.72.

Tom Flynn in Beaverton, Oregon, $52.72.

And he says, great show.

Eric Hochl, our buddy in Mulrose.

Mulrose, Deutschland, 52.

Now we have the 50.

We're already at the 50s, and here we go.

Starting with Brett Denton and

Boise.

Melissa Alvarez in Ponta Verda Vedra Beach, Florida.

Christopher Haynes in Spring, Texas, George Uchet in La Vernia, Texas, Jacqueline Connolly in Green Bay, Go Packers, Wisconsin, Richard Gardner, I think he's in New York, Aaron Wise Gerber in Bend, Oregon, Christopher Haynes in Spring, Texas, a lot of people in Spring, Texas, Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana.

Alan Bean,

Baron Alan Bean in Beaverton, Oregon.

And last on our list, a Baroness Knight in Edmonds, Washington.

And that's the short list for today's show.

I want to thank them for helping us out on show of all shows, 1750, a landmark show.

Yeah.

Well, we did have,

thank God we had one

show number donation.

Man, step it up, people.

And please check your recurring donations because they've fallen off dramatically as they expire when your credit card or something else.

We've lost a lot of those.

I think that makes a big difference.

And we do have to give, I don't know why he did this, but he came in at $49.99, but he wants,

this is Dennis down below.

He's just had hemorrhoid surgery.

Ouch.

He says it's been six weeks of five hours of diffusingly pain after I poop.

I mean, the pain is unbearable.

I'm on

this and that.

He says that he's not cutting it.

I know I'm not a big donor under 50 every year, but if you guys can give me some health karma, that would be great.

Yes,

I'm going to give him some health karma right now because, man, especially after you poop, that's no good.

Here you go, buddy.

You've got karma.

He's in Puerto Rico.

All right.

Thank you very much to these donors.

$50 and above, including our executive and associate executive producers.

Please help us out by going to noagendashow.com and

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Thank you all very much.

Caitlin Meyer says happy birthday to Lady Linda.

She celebrates today.

Michelle Neva says happy birthday to Nora Neva and she turns 21 on

Saturday.

Jose Paredes on the 29th.

That's also on Saturday.

And some health karma for Denise Denise.

Oh, that's not a birthday, but I will add that in just a moment.

But first, let me say happy birthday to these people on behalf of everyone here at the best podcast in the universe.

Let me do that health karma for her right away.

You've got karma.

There we go.

Because we do have a title change here.

I'm going to read the note first.

This is Richard of Tasmania.

He says, thanks for accepting.

He says, Adam and John, thanks for accepting Australian dollar dues as real money.

You do a better job than our useless government by respecting our dodgy currency that way.

I'm a recurring producer in your show and have earned enough to experience to be a level two knight.

Benefits include a healthy amygdala, increased resistance to propaganda, and improved ability to detect gaslighting.

Thank you very much.

So he becomes a

well, it says layway title change, so I'm not sure what he becomes.

Oh, baronet.

There you go.

He becomes a baronet.

So let me just let me

give me the jingle.

I could have done the whole thing in the music.

Anyway, thank you very much, Sir Richard of Tasmania.

Congratulations, you are now Baronet, Sir Richard of Tasmania.

And we do have a Commodore coming in today.

This would be the Archduke of Central Florida, who stepped it up once again.

So we say, congratulations, you are now a Commodore and you are arriving, sir.

Woo, very nice.

Commodore, go to noagendarings.com and there's a tab there, a menu item.

You can give us the address and the actual title, but I think it will be Commodore Archduke of Central Florida.

Let us know for sure.

We'll get it out to you as soon as possible.

They're very, very handsome.

No one should

be upset.

We got the North Georgia Monthly Meetup at 6 o'clock today at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.

We have the Columbia River Basin Monthly Tri-Cities Meetup 7 o'clock tomorrow at Ty's Bar and Grill in West Richland, Washington.

On Saturday,

one every single day, the Magix 33 Toverland meetup.

Oh, this is in Safenham, the Netherlands.

Is that during the

10 o'clock in the morning?

Bring your...

Bring your alcohol, I guess.

Toe for Land, Tofer Lamb 2 in Safenham, the Netherlands.

Okay, 10 o'clock in the morning.

Also on Saturday, this time in California, all aboard the Flight of the No Agenda meetup number 61, Leo Bravo's organizing at Santa Fe Express Cafe in Fullerton, California.

The hipsters, trolls, and producers of No Agenda Brooklyn meetup in Brooklyn, New York at Wing Bar.

Definitely check that out on Saturday, 3.33 Eastern Time.

Also on Saturday, the Central Ohio really late St.

Patty's Day meetup.

That's very late.

5.30 at Dempsey's in Columbus, Ohio.

And finally, on our next show day, Sunday, the TMI Evac Zone Crossword Puzzle Meetup.

You'll be doing crossword puzzles apparently at 3:30 p.m.

at Evergrain Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.

And I got a promo here.

Yeah, what a six-letter word for Party League experience.

Hmm, try meetup.

Speaking of meetups, there's a TMI Evac Zone Crossword Puzzle Meetup Sunday, March 28th at Evergrain Brewing Company at 3:33 p.m.

Hope to see everyone there to solve this No Agenda crossword puzzle.

What's a nine-letter word for father who exploits his human resources?

Douchebag!

Okay, thanks for the promo.

Go to noagendametups.com.

That's where you can find the entire overview of all meetups: calendar view, list view.

You can search by zip code.

It's all over the world.

They are producer-organized.

This is where you get connection that gives you protection because everybody you meet at a No Agenda Meetup is going to be your first responder in a crisis.

Noagendametups.com.

If you can't find one, neuro, start one yourself.

It's always a party.

Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

You to be where you won't be triggered or hell lame.

You to be where everybody feels the same.

It's like a party.

Yo, yo.

So are you back to regular ISOs now?

You're no longer doing the AI stuff?

Are you?

This time it's a split.

See what you got.

Okay, hold on a second.

I got to correct some of the volumes on these because some of the volumes are way off.

Yeah, here's what I got.

Yeah, that's a great one.

Yeah, I got this one.

Bum for all, all for bum.

I thought that was kind of cute.

And then this one.

Bye, Adam.

Bye, John.

Not really an ISO, but

no.

Okay, what do you got?

Well, I got here's a real one.

This is the

A too much.

It was too much.

It was too much.

It was too much.

It was not good enough.

It's not too much.

And then here is the.

This is a meta.

Meta?

Yeah, this is a meta clip, and you hear why.

I may be fake, but that show was real and great.

What happened?

I may be fake,

but that show is real and great.

I'm so torn about this.

Oh, oh, oh, no, he's torn.

It is time for John C.

Dvorak's tip of the day, everybody.

Great advice for you and me.

I'll use it, though.

Created by Dana Bernetti.

I'll use it.

I'll use it.

Okay, this is

I got this from two different people.

Oh.

And which is always like a sign.

The first time I looked at it, I said, I don't know.

Then I started really looking at it.

And I started, holy mackerel, this is actually pretty phenomenal.

But you have to dig, you have to go down because all the top,

this is called, this is a, I don't even know where they got this

top level domain, but the site is TV.garden.

TV.garden.

I want you to go to this.

Now, it has.

It has TV shows from every country in the world, and it has almost everything that you can imagine.

You can click on the map,

you can scroll down.

There's a lot of different ways of doing it.

The map, you can spin it around the globe.

And

most of the stuff at the top, like for example, you go to the United States, the first 10 things at the top are all

religious programming.

I'm thinking there's a bunch of religious stuff, but no, you dig down, you'd go down, there's thousands of stations,

including Buena Park Television, for example.

But I want want you to do this.

Either go to the map.

I'm at the map.

Okay, hit Canada.

Okay, I'm going to hit Canada so hard they won't know what hit him.

Yep.

Okay, now go to the on the side, you see there's two things in Canada.

One is Afghan Nobel movies.

There's a bunch of movies.

There's Afghanistan because it's alphabetical, so

every country's got

click on the second one, Afghan Noble TV.

Okay.

Hacked by Cyber Dragons team, it says.

Yeah.

What is this?

The page has been hacked.

The whole page has been overrun by some group.

Interesting.

Yeah.

Barney the dinosaur.

Wow.

This is pretty cool.

It's unbelievable.

Wow.

How do they even get away with this?

Therein lies the rub.

I do not believe this site is legal.

I don't think so either.

They have everything from every country.

Every imaginable TV feed is on this site.

So you can watch, they have Milwaukee's local station.

They have

everything in Canada.

I didn't even know half this stuff existed.

They have every BBC channel, plus stuff in England I've never heard of.

It's just a great site.

This is a fabulous tip.

Do they have

Korean, the Korean news lady?

North Korea?

That's a good question.

I don't know if that's Korean.

We got North Korea.

We got North Korea.

Here we go.

North Korean Central TV.

I got bars and tone on Pyongyang.

That is an amazing tip.

Now

you thought I was deep into my code.

I'm going to be playing with this for the rest of the day.

That is amazing.

Korean central television.

What a great tip.

Another fantastic tip, John.

You have outdone yourself.

I mean, every single time, it just keeps on getting better.

You like a fine wine, my friend.

Yeah.

The fine wine of tips.

It is John C.

Dvorak's tip of the day, tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com.

Creative master, you and me.

Just the tip with JCD

and sometimes Adam.

Created by Dana Bernetti.

Well now.

You've outdone yourself on that one.

And of course, the question is,

did you click on all the A's and the B's before you finally got to Canada to find that hack channel?

Is that what you were doing when you?

That was just a random walk.

I hit the hack channel by accident.

Wow.

Amazing.

That concludes our broadcast day for today, but we will be very delighted to come back and do it all again for you on Sunday.

Clearly with more stuff.

More stuff.

There's lots of stuff.

And your favorite place for world news.

news.

No Agenda World News Service will return on Sunday.

End of show mix is coming up for Professor Jay Jones.

We got

Bose Music.

He's got a cool little diddy he hacked together.

And up next on the No Agenda Stream Patrolroom.io with the modern podcast apps, it's Grimerica.

This is their 700th episode.

Support those guys, their value for value.

Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg.

In the morning, everybody.

I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, and it looks like it might rain.

I'm John C.

DeVora.

Remember us at NoAgenda Donations.com and make it great for Sunday.

We'll see you then.

Until then.

Adios, Mofos, a hooey-hoo-eye, and such.

The strength that we have is in this moment.

What are you doing in this moment?

Elon Musk is a Nazi.

Oh, the in this moment.

There's some kind of mental illness thing going on here.

This doesn't make any sense.

What is this all about?

In this moment.

bullets are being fired, charging stations are put ablaze, Teslas are being put ablaze.

What is the op here?

What are they trying to accomplish?

I don't feel good in this moment.

How do you feel in this moment?

Are you guys that lost?

Does it really come down to the basic

really what this comes down to?

It baffles me.

You said every man's gotta be fine, fine, fine.

Is that what it comes down to?

What is the best way to avoid war?

Your musket get ready for war.

These people are trying to kill us.

She's making this up as she goes along.

It's grassroots, too.

Grassroots,

grassroots, non-violent.

There is no conspiracy.

There is no well-funded cabal.

Volkswagen is retooling one of their closed factories.

I mean, like, really friendly fire, all-out warmonger.

It's what this law requires.

She got that part right.

Does it really come down to the basic what it all comes down to?

Really, what this comes down to?

It baffles me.

Is that what it comes down to?

Let's go, let's go, let's go.

Meanwhile, bad people will do bad things.

Stay in your homes, I repeat.

Stay in your homes.

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