1750 - "SPLESH!"

Speaker 1 These I call bogus Adam Curry, John C.

Speaker 4 Dvorak.

Speaker 7 It's Thursday, March 27th, 2025. This is your award-winning Kibo Nation Media Assassination, episode 1750.

Speaker 4 This is no agenda.

Speaker 8 Fat-fingered and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in FEMA, region number six.

Speaker 8 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry, and from northern Silicon Valley, where everybody has to resign.

Speaker 4 I'm John C. Dvorak.

Speaker 5 It's Greg Bonnenbuskill.

Speaker 6 In the morning.

Speaker 15 Oh, man.

Speaker 16 Oh, man.

Speaker 19 It's days like this when the job is just tough.

Speaker 20 Because there's just nothing else in the world is happening.

Speaker 22 There's nothing happening.

Speaker 23 It's all SignalGate.

Speaker 24 I know you feel the same because you're like, oh, well, there goes the material.

Speaker 10 Well,

Speaker 4 I found some stuff outside of SignalGate. Oh, me too.
Because the car tariffs, that's the other big news.

Speaker 23 Oh, no, but that's not news. We don't want to talk about that.

Speaker 4 This morning, the MS-13 guy, some guy, some 25-year-old guy, was arrested.

Speaker 29 Well, I'm here.

Speaker 24 I'm glad you mentioned it.

Speaker 30 Here we go.

Speaker 31 Here's Pam Bondage.

Speaker 32 Good morning.

Speaker 33 Thank you for being here.

Speaker 10 You're welcome.

Speaker 34 Did you see Cash Patel in this?

Speaker 35 They're all there.

Speaker 36 But did you see what he had on his

Speaker 4 FBI flight jacket?

Speaker 4 We thought that was Camo.

Speaker 38 No, it wasn't Camo.

Speaker 40 No, that's his outdoor arresting people jacket.

Speaker 25 He got the hat on.

Speaker 43 He's got his sneakers on.

Speaker 22 Yeah, cash, cash.

Speaker 32 We have been out since about 4:30 this morning. Oh,

Speaker 4 stop for a second.

Speaker 35 Yeah, really.

Speaker 4 Why is she even there?

Speaker 30 Well, they all report to her.

Speaker 4 She's there.

Speaker 10 Cash. They're all there.

Speaker 4 It's like.

Speaker 46 Well, they were all out at 4 a.m.

Speaker 31 this morning, and then they had doughnuts.

Speaker 47 And like, come on, let's go announce this thing. All right.

Speaker 48 Everyone dressed right?

Speaker 4 It just seemed to be showboating, if you ask me.

Speaker 10 You think?

Speaker 20 Whatever.

Speaker 34 This was a, please pay no attention to Signal Gate.

Speaker 49 We got an MS-13 guys.

Speaker 4 That's exactly right.

Speaker 28 Yeah, totally.

Speaker 32 The great men and women of law enforcement have been working on this operation for days and days and probably weeks.

Speaker 51 You don't know?

Speaker 51 You don't know? Probably weeks.

Speaker 30 Do they report to you?

Speaker 4 I thought you did. They should have an exact date when they started.

Speaker 52 Yeah, we started this this on this date, and we got

Speaker 32 this morning, early this morning, one of the top leaders.

Speaker 54 Top.

Speaker 4 I love this.

Speaker 55 The top leaders, the tippy top, all the way at the top of the pyramid, top leader.

Speaker 32 Leaders of MS-13 was apprehended. He was the leader for the East Coast, one of the top three in the entire country.

Speaker 53 Right here in Virginia,

Speaker 32 living half an hour outside of Washington, D.C.

Speaker 32 He is an illegal alien from El Salvador,

Speaker 32 and he will not be living in our country much longer.

Speaker 32 He's in custody this morning. One of the top leaders right here near our nation's capital.
Right there.

Speaker 36 He was right there.

Speaker 9 One of the top guys.

Speaker 58 Hey, listen, the biggest criminals live in Washington.

Speaker 60 Okay.

Speaker 37 They don't live in Virginia.

Speaker 61 But good job.

Speaker 62 Good job, everybody.

Speaker 57 Just let me do the.

Speaker 63 I have a couple signal gay things just to

Speaker 4 have the super clip.

Speaker 29 I have a super clip.

Speaker 31 Yeah, I don't know which one you're talking about.

Speaker 4 That's the one with all the Democrats going, how

Speaker 4 this is the worst thing that's ever happened to the country since

Speaker 9 no, I don't have that one.

Speaker 65 Oh,

Speaker 66 well, I didn't see because I was looking for super cuts, not super clip.

Speaker 4 Super cuts, a haircut.

Speaker 47 No, I actually got it. I thought it would be fun to do a different version of super cut, which,

Speaker 47 yeah, we're doing something different.

Speaker 70 It's upside-down day here on the No Agenda Show, people.

Speaker 69 The Lim Joes are in the house.

Speaker 71 They've made a big deal out of this because we've had two perfect months. The main thing was nothing happened.
The attack was totally successful.

Speaker 4 In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information.

Speaker 71 I always say you have to learn from every experience.

Speaker 4 Hillary's private email scandal, which put our classified information in the reach of our enemies, disqualifies her from the presidency.

Speaker 72 This journalist, Mr.

Speaker 73 President, wants the world talking about more hoaxes and this kind of nonsense rather than the freedom that you're enabling.

Speaker 75 The president's national security advisor sent top-secret emails on an unsecured server that we know our enemies were trying to access.

Speaker 75 He was sending back and forth freewheeling, and yet we see nothing there.

Speaker 76 My communications, to be clear, in a signal message group were entirely permissible and lawful and did not include classified information.

Speaker 79 This was a huge mistake.

Speaker 80 Correct?

Speaker 76 No.

Speaker 72 Mishandling classified information is still a violation of the Espionage Act.

Speaker 81 It started with Hillary Clinton. It has continued without accountability.

Speaker 82 Nobody was texting war plans, and that's all I have to say about that. If there was anyone other than Hillary Clinton, they would be in jail right now.

Speaker 84 When you take something out of a skiff, if you're a senator, you know exactly what you're doing.

Speaker 85 So I found that super cut.

Speaker 87 I thought that was rather entertaining.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 90 You know, but more fun was a trend we have noticed recently amongst Democrats,

Speaker 67 affectionately called the delusional Dems.

Speaker 55 And it's the cussing.

Speaker 57 And so here they have an opportunity.

Speaker 31 They have an opportunity to have the upper hand on everything.

Speaker 65 I mean, it's just from, because, I mean, politics, truth doesn't matter.

Speaker 63 It's just whatever is on X and whatever is being replayed by the media.

Speaker 38 But they cannot help themselves.

Speaker 95 Here's Adam Schiff.

Speaker 97 So tonight I want to talk about Signalgate and what a colossal fuck-up this is in terms of our national security.

Speaker 100 Why?

Speaker 55 He doesn't need to.

Speaker 101 He does a six-minute video, but that's how he starts it off.

Speaker 10 That's not good.

Speaker 4 And then even Van Jones, I don't know if you have any questions.

Speaker 102 I have that.

Speaker 27 I have that. First let's.

Speaker 10 Wait, what it was?

Speaker 9 First, first, let's, you're jumping the gun.

Speaker 104 I always do that.

Speaker 47 You're jumping the gun in the sequence.

Speaker 39 You I want to go, yeah, yeah, yeah, that means quiet.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 51 Mayor Pete, lovable, adorable little Mayor Pete, throws a couple bombs.

Speaker 107 It's Pete.

Speaker 11 I try not to jump in with a take on it.

Speaker 39 Hey, by the way, we should start our show.

Speaker 27 Hey, it's Pete.

Speaker 108 I mean, what does he think is?

Speaker 109 Madonna?

Speaker 64 Hey, it's Pete.

Speaker 11 Hey, it's Pete.

Speaker 110 I try not to jump in with a take on everything or comment on everything we see in the news of the day, but what we learned about today is truly incredible.

Speaker 11 The U.S.

Speaker 110 Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, the Vice President of the United States, and other very senior, very powerful Trump White House officials, it turns out, discussed highly classified war plans, not only on an unclassified channel, but accidentally and randomly, it seems, including a journalist.

Speaker 110 And to see this administration claiming that it cares about competence and merit and then be responsible for an epic fuck-up like this demonstrates that these are not serious people.

Speaker 110 The kind of intelligence failure calls the question on whether there is any place for merit or competence in this administration at all.

Speaker 11 Because if they're not highly serious consequences for this level of screw-up, then it will make clear that all of the bluster about merit that you hear about from this White House is just bullshit.

Speaker 103 We deserve so much better than this.

Speaker 110 It is getting clearer by the day

Speaker 110 that the people in charge of the American government cannot keep the American people safe.

Speaker 113 All right, here's the Van Jones remark.

Speaker 114 I think that this party is scrambling, trying to seem tough.

Speaker 114 And I'm seeing this party traffic in a lot of curse words. That's supposed to be like the new cool thing to do.
I don't think that that's going to be as useful. I even heard Pete Budigig

Speaker 114 with a whole bunch of curse words. I don't know who gave that memo.
I don't think that's very useful.

Speaker 107 Yeah, so it was a memo.

Speaker 100 Clearly, there was a memo that went out.

Speaker 91 Van is questioning who gave out the memo.

Speaker 115 Is that another Chuck Schumer thing, do you think?

Speaker 40 Yeah, that's all talk-tuff.

Speaker 4 I think this is organic. I think it stems from the powers of the president.
I've said this before, that the president sets the moral tone of the country, and it's always been the case.

Speaker 4 That's the first thing they teach you in college poly psych classes.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 so they've given the president gave the go-ahead because he says bullshit all the time. Yeah, but not the F-word.

Speaker 29 I haven't heard of him F-bomb.

Speaker 4 No, he, I don't, no. I think he has, but I don't think it's...
It doesn't.

Speaker 4 The way they...

Speaker 4 The

Speaker 4 main people that do this, of course, are the screaming memes that are on the...

Speaker 4 Mimi?

Speaker 116 Screaming Mimis? What kind of...

Speaker 4 Screaming Mimis.

Speaker 29 What kind of back-handed slap is that at your own school?

Speaker 4 This is what they're called. The screaming memes.
I've never heard of her on the...

Speaker 109 It's a great band name, but I've never heard of the screaming memes.

Speaker 4 Screaming memes are the people that are on the TikTok and they're screaming and yelling and cussing. Screaming.
And they're the ones who really set the stage for this, it seems to me.

Speaker 4 And now that the fact that the politicians are starting to cuss, this is really.

Speaker 4 And they're the ones who bitched and moaned about coarseness.

Speaker 14 Oh, coarse.

Speaker 4 Oh, Trump is bad because bang is coarse.

Speaker 4 If you're going to do that, if you're going to set up yourself by complaining about coarseness and then you start cussing, this is not,

Speaker 4 again, this is not a good look.

Speaker 119 I do have a couple of insightful clips about this because we're not going to do what everybody else is doing.

Speaker 38 I heard,

Speaker 41 I was listening to DH Unplugged every Tuesday.

Speaker 62 They do it live at 8 o'clock.

Speaker 100 We do.

Speaker 4 It's also a podcast.

Speaker 67 Yes, it is John C. Dvorak and Andrew Horowitz.

Speaker 47 And Horowitz is saying, why does the news always do five stories?

Speaker 124 They do five stories stories all day long, five stories.

Speaker 38 And then you, and you backed him up by saying, That's what Fox does every single Fox show: five stories, five stories.

Speaker 119 And the reason for that is you play the hits, man, when you're in a linear time format.

Speaker 119 People aren't watching all day.

Speaker 51 You want them to tune in and get the top five stories.

Speaker 30 That's what that's about.

Speaker 10 Play the hits.

Speaker 29 You can't go wrong by playing Madonna.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's probably the only

Speaker 4 that's well I remember when I was at Tech TV and we had an old pro that was running one of the guys that was one of the main producers of the whole operation. He said, and you get a story

Speaker 4 that's hot, you just milk it. Yeah, it's all you do all day is they just go on the story and that's all you play.
Just yak, yak, yak, about the one thing. I mean, we

Speaker 4 shy away from that on this show because it's, I think people are sick of it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, who knows?

Speaker 108 Unless, I mean, people always

Speaker 4 argue about this stuff.

Speaker 125 Well, yeah, but we have opinions.

Speaker 16 Okay, I'm just going to.

Speaker 4 Well, we have different, we also have perspective. We have a different look at these things.

Speaker 126 We are awesome.

Speaker 10 That's what we're doing. We're great.

Speaker 127 Here's a backgrounder.

Speaker 128 It was the screenshot the world was waiting for.

Speaker 128 After members of the now infamous HUTPC small group lined up on Tuesday to insist no classified information was shared on the signal chat, the Atlantic magazine dropped the so-called war plan Pete Hegseth sent to senior intelligence intelligence officials and a journalist from the Atlantic that readers might judge for themselves.

Speaker 129 12.15 estimated time F-18's launch first strike package.

Speaker 129 1945 trigger-based F-18 first strike window starts. Target terrorist is at his known location, so should be on time.
Also, strike drones launch MQ-9s.

Speaker 128 After the initial strike, the target is identified on signal as the Houthis, quote, top missile guy.

Speaker 128 Members of the Signal thread are now saying the Atlantic magazine's editor Jeffrey Goldberg oversold the extent of the breach, among them the Pentagon chief himself.

Speaker 82 Nobody's texting war plans.

Speaker 118 There's no units, no locations, no routes, no flight paths, no sources, no methods, no classified information.

Speaker 128 This, after Goldberg's original article, said the plan included precise information about targets.

Speaker 128 but in the hands of foreign intelligence, the messages sent two hours before zero hour would have been an ample tip-off to Houthi command of an impending attack.

Speaker 96 You're right about the president setting the tone because not a single person can just say, Yeah, that was dumb.

Speaker 133 They don't seem capable of that.

Speaker 9 They're like, Yeah, well, we were in a hurry.

Speaker 96 We're doing this.

Speaker 91 You know, it's an approved thing.

Speaker 37 We just threw together a group.

Speaker 102 And that was.

Speaker 4 This is the era of no apologies.

Speaker 98 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Sorry about that, Vax.

Speaker 47 No one is going to apologize for everything.

Speaker 9 And President Trump, he's still in the middle of the day.

Speaker 4 The vax is still on the market. Of course.

Speaker 103 Of course.

Speaker 16 I mean, get your eighth booster.

Speaker 68 Get your eighth booster.

Speaker 108 I did, it was an interesting, because, you know, this journalist is interesting

Speaker 67 for a number of reasons.

Speaker 42 And then we can talk about what we think happened briefly.

Speaker 42 Matt Taibi was on Newsmax.

Speaker 47 Newsmax.

Speaker 119 He's a top, top guy on Newsmax as a guest.

Speaker 109 And here's what he had to say about the Atlantic journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg. What exactly is Jeffrey Goldberg in your mind?

Speaker 136 What do you think of this guy?

Speaker 50 Look, a lot of journalists, when Jeffrey Goldberg's name comes up, we all kind of look at each other with a bemused glance.

Speaker 50 This is somebody who has a reputation for getting things massively wrong and somehow being

Speaker 50 promoted anyway.

Speaker 50 He was infamous for getting the WMD story wrong multiple times. In fact, he won multiple awards for getting that story wrong and somehow still ended up the editor of Atlantic magazine.

Speaker 50 So he's a figure of some mystery in the business.

Speaker 90 Yeah, that was the Great Terror article in The New Yorker in 2002.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's the one who promoted the

Speaker 4 Suckers and Losers story.

Speaker 126 Yep.

Speaker 4 The John Kelly commentary. He also did two or three other of these.

Speaker 125 He's a spook.

Speaker 4 There's got to to be something like that.

Speaker 4 I mean, I don't have, I am not looking at his wiki page so I can do a spot to spook analysis, but there's something fishy about, first of all, why is he the guy that ended up on this thing?

Speaker 4 The second thing was, is that the

Speaker 4 Walls, the national security advisor, says when he went to CIA, I guess, the first thing they gave him is a secure phone that had a signal on it.

Speaker 4 And then he talked to some CIA guys about, he talked about this in the testimony. And they had a communication with somebody there says, Oh, no, don't worry about it.
Everyone's got this.

Speaker 4 You know, just use it. It's fine.
And

Speaker 4 then all of a sudden, just Jeffrey Goldberg guy gets on the call. How'd that happen? And

Speaker 4 of course, nobody can figure out how that happened. And maybe they will, maybe they won't.
This whole thing is a setup.

Speaker 91 Goldberg dropped out of college and worked for a time at the Washington Post because that's where all college dropouts go.

Speaker 69 Did you drop out of college? You're hired, son.

Speaker 24 Come on in.

Speaker 58 Would he get hired by Woodward?

Speaker 85 He then moved to Israel and served in the Israeli Defense Forces during the first Intifada.

Speaker 96 He was a prison guard.

Speaker 141 There he's on his wiki page?

Speaker 94 Yeah, I am. I am.
He's a.

Speaker 57 Oh, can't be trusted.

Speaker 25 Dual Israeli citizen.

Speaker 94 It's one of those guys.

Speaker 93 Can't trust him.

Speaker 27 Well, the

Speaker 10 any other other spot the spook indicators don't really see anything.

Speaker 4 Well, that's actually good. I mean, it may actually be a real

Speaker 10 one.

Speaker 4 A real one.

Speaker 65 A real one.

Speaker 4 He has as opposed to one that's just kind of, you know, sloppy. Well, because the fact that he's the guy of all the people that ended up on this call, why him?

Speaker 47 Well, you know, sometimes

Speaker 142 just Occam's razor, sometimes things just happen.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but this thing, this sort of thing is anything but Occam's razor. This is like the opposite.

Speaker 10 Well, it's so out there.

Speaker 141 No, not really.

Speaker 121 I mean, if you're adding, because the whole signal text thread was about adding people to the mix.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but you have to have the first you have to have the number in your book.

Speaker 125 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 89 Well, I mean, you have lots of people's numbers in your book who you wouldn't add to a text chat with me.

Speaker 87 I'm sorry.

Speaker 109 You have an actual book. What am I thinking?

Speaker 27 You don't have it in your phone.

Speaker 4 Actually,

Speaker 4 I do have a large address book on Google, and they will move it to my phone every time I get a new Android.

Speaker 57 You've gotten one?

Speaker 35 Well,

Speaker 4 it's not new, but every time you get a different phone, I have different phones over time that end up in the same drawer. But when you boot it, they demand that you log into

Speaker 4 somehow. You got to log your old account in.
And once you you do that, then they throw a bunch of crap on your phone. But they're throwing stuff on.

Speaker 4 I have phone numbers for people that I don't even know. And so it's possible.
But again, somehow that number got on that phone, Walz's phone.

Speaker 10 Oh, he knows. Somehow.

Speaker 96 No, I'm pretty sure they know each other.

Speaker 60 They know each other.

Speaker 4 Waltz claims that he doesn't know him.

Speaker 94 I don't buy that. I'm not buying that.

Speaker 27 I like what our

Speaker 18 Sir

Speaker 96 Grantilius of the Great Plains said.

Speaker 90 Waltz was working for the Department of Defense as an advisor to Cheney in the Bush days.

Speaker 119 Goldberg was publishing work actively supporting the invasion of Iraq.

Speaker 43 That's your WMD.

Speaker 47 The Cheney gang despises Trump.

Speaker 121 Could Goldberg have been invited on purpose?

Speaker 4 That's what he said.

Speaker 36 That's reasonable.

Speaker 146 That's reasonable.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of reasonable things that you can.

Speaker 52 But who is this?

Speaker 150 I think this is, if it's targeted, it's targeted against Hegseth.

Speaker 57 Who has the capability?

Speaker 130 First of all,

Speaker 122 Sigma.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 they really hate Hegseth. Yes.

Speaker 109 And Hegseth has responded very poorly.

Speaker 134 He's not good at this.

Speaker 4 No. You'd think he'd be better because he's media savvy.

Speaker 109 He's so defensive and

Speaker 1 this bullcrap. That guy is a, that guy's no good.

Speaker 4 No, to say Hagseth plays too much of a tough character.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's a tough guy.

Speaker 4 They push him into this position where he's got to be kind of assertive

Speaker 4 and he doesn't have experience in a large bureaucracy, so he's a little sensitive about that.

Speaker 4 And so he's in a position where

Speaker 4 he can get shook.

Speaker 4 And so far, you know, I think Trump likes him. I think he probably could do the job if they don't, but they're going to try to shake him out of there.

Speaker 138 I think he has to go.

Speaker 39 Out of all this, they're not going to stop.

Speaker 103 and if this was a target targeted thing then it was to get to make hegseth look bad because it was hegseth who's sitting there going like we got the cue we got the reaper drones we're going to kill this guy

Speaker 16 and the thing the thing that's kind of sick about it all

Speaker 9 is the jubilee and like yay american flag emoji punching fist emoji fire emoji we killed him yeah that was a mistake of course but that's how that's how these people are that's probably how most people are.

Speaker 153 But it's always.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we're number one, foam finger.

Speaker 104 Yeah, it's always a little jarring.

Speaker 26 I mean, to me, that was the jarring thing.

Speaker 94 I mean, not that

Speaker 64 this was. And

Speaker 16 clearly, clearly

Speaker 109 the timing of this and how much time there was before the Reaper drones and whatever else they were planning.

Speaker 120 Clearly, that would have been enough to alert people.

Speaker 9 Here's my question, though.

Speaker 91 This is the thing, this is the part I understand, and this is where it smells of a setup.

Speaker 91 If this is you or I, and we get added to some awesome text group, and on this text group, it's it's podcasters, it's Megan Kelly, it's Dan Bongino.

Speaker 102 Oh, no, he's no longer a podcaster, uh, it's Tucker Carlson, they have like this pod, the top, top, top podcasters group.

Speaker 29 I would not be removing myself.

Speaker 4 I was brought up on Gutfeld by

Speaker 4 one of the contestants.

Speaker 66 Who does that?

Speaker 4 I forgot who was, but one of them said, Why would you out yourself if you're going to end up on these groups?

Speaker 4 Because you could, as a journalist in particular, because you're like the fly on the now, you're a fly on the wall. Yes.
Why wouldn't you want to continue to be the fly on the wall as long as you can?

Speaker 4 And you just build up and build up.

Speaker 10 Do you remember?

Speaker 89 Do you remember back?

Speaker 24 Well, you still have one.

Speaker 94 Back in the landline days, if you called someone on a landline, you know, the thing that's on the wall, And

Speaker 133 the other person didn't.

Speaker 10 No, how did it work?

Speaker 141 It was like

Speaker 47 there was a thing where you could keep listening.

Speaker 4 I mean, if the other person doesn't hang up, and there was something where this happened, there was a couple of, there were some situations with, well, first of all, when I was in France for the first time in 73.

Speaker 117 Getting your hair cut by Pierre?

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 That's when you had to always go to the postal office to make calls. It was very strange to do an overseas call.
You had to go to the post office.

Speaker 4 And it was a postal tele telephone post office.

Speaker 29 This is where PPT.

Speaker 4 But the phones that if people did have a phone

Speaker 4 in their house,

Speaker 4 when you hung up, it didn't hang up anything. Yes.

Speaker 4 So you could stay on the line and when the other person hung up, you hear the click, but the phone was still live for a good five minutes. This is what I'm talking about.

Speaker 29 I remember this.

Speaker 4 There was something like that that went on in this country, too, but it wasn't quite the same mechanism. It was something else.

Speaker 139 No, I think I remember.

Speaker 4 I remember it, too, because I remember people hanging up, and then I could still hear it. Yeah.

Speaker 48 Yeah. And

Speaker 48 what you did was you didn't hang up and say, oh, I hope I don't hear anything I shouldn't be hearing.

Speaker 157 No.

Speaker 8 You're listening.

Speaker 4 Well, that's like being on the party line.

Speaker 65 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 Which

Speaker 4 when I was a real little kid and I was on the party line all the time, and I've talked about this on the show before, and I got caught a couple of times by the girl because she'd be talking to her boyfriend.

Speaker 4 I'm listening in at this, these two cooing over each other and she caught me somehow. I don't know what to do.

Speaker 10 Well,

Speaker 148 here's a modern day example.

Speaker 121 Let's move it out of Boomerland.

Speaker 30 Butt dial.

Speaker 158 When someone butt dials you and you hear

Speaker 36 you don't hang up and go, oh, butt dial.

Speaker 30 No.

Speaker 4 Let me hear what you're doing.

Speaker 4 What you do,

Speaker 4 you listen unless you can, you listen for at least a little while, but if it's, if it's, you know, it's obviously you're not going to hear anything because you can tell by the nature of the butt dial because you can't hear, you just hear rustling, and then you hang up.

Speaker 4 But otherwise, yeah, you listen a little bit if you can hear anything.

Speaker 4 But if you don't hear anything, you don't listen. So, so it doesn't make sense that this guy outed himself.

Speaker 103 He would remove himself.

Speaker 4 And he's got nothing, and his story was a nothing burger.

Speaker 10 You use nothing burger. You heard it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it basically

Speaker 4 wasn't really anything. He just was there to humiliate Hank Seth.

Speaker 102 So, and Walz to a lesser extent.

Speaker 64 Well, Waltz is under attack.

Speaker 87 So people are now combing through Waltz, and they find out that his official ex-account, he's following a gay porn star

Speaker 90 known as Big Dick Bottom.

Speaker 57 A black guy.

Speaker 86 A black guy.

Speaker 10 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I didn't catch that.

Speaker 121 And then he unfollowed him quick.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I would imagine.

Speaker 39 Sorry, not porn star, an adult content creator.

Speaker 87 I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 And by the way, I will say this, so that could be

Speaker 4 planted. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 151 Easy.

Speaker 47 Hey, let me see your phone for a sec.

Speaker 48 You know, who do I know that does that?

Speaker 38 Who did things?

Speaker 39 Yes, John C. Dvorak.
Give me your phone for a second.

Speaker 130 And you boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, switch it to Korean.

Speaker 90 And it would be impossible to find your way back to

Speaker 90 turn off the Korean.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you have to do a lot of research to figure out how to do it. That was one of your major gags.

Speaker 22 Come on, people.

Speaker 103 It's a horrible gag.

Speaker 146 It's just as horrible.

Speaker 122 So,

Speaker 29 yeah,

Speaker 96 my feeling is this is the first major chink in the Heg Seth armor.

Speaker 119 And that was the intent.

Speaker 30 Also, it was

Speaker 38 from the account from Goldberg, it was Waltz who added him to K Seth.

Speaker 93 Now, that can, I don't, Signal doesn't send out invitations, as far as I know.

Speaker 39 I was surprised, just as an aside, that Signal is an approved encrypted messaging app for the U.S.

Speaker 57 government.

Speaker 4 Do you know that

Speaker 4 the chairman of the Signal board is a foundation that runs

Speaker 4 the woman? She is the head of NPR.

Speaker 90 No, she's gone, but I think, didn't the woman from Blue Cry also come?

Speaker 4 No, the woman from NPR still runs it because they, here, here's the clip.

Speaker 4 They talk about it.

Speaker 4 I think I have one of the secrets.

Speaker 117 I have a couple of her clips.

Speaker 4 No, I have the disclaimer.

Speaker 162 Okay.

Speaker 65 Wow.

Speaker 162 Yeah, Wow is right.

Speaker 27 You sure you have it?

Speaker 4 I know I have it.

Speaker 4 I just don't know what it's called.

Speaker 161 Breach Story Weird NPR?

Speaker 100 Should we try that one?

Speaker 105 What is it?

Speaker 37 Breach Story Weird NPR.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, that could be it.

Speaker 99 The fallout fallout continues from the revelation.

Speaker 99 Senior Trump administration officials somehow added a journalist to a signal group chat in which they discussed secret plans for military strikes in Yemen.

Speaker 99 At a White House hearing today, Democrats disputed the administration's claims the information wasn't classified and called for people to be held accountable.

Speaker 94 Here's NPR's Ryan Lucas.

Speaker 72 Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee pushed Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe for answers, particularly after the full group chat chain was made public by The Atlantic.

Speaker 72 It showed Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth texting details on timing, weapons, and attack sequencing of the U.S. airstrikes in Yemen.
Here's Colorado Democrat Jason Crowe.

Speaker 147 Nobody is willing to come to us and say this was wrong. This was a breach of security, and we won't do it again.

Speaker 72 Crow, who is a former U.S. Army Ranger, said the refusal to accept responsibility is outrageous and a leadership failure, and he called on Defense Secretary Pete Hagseth to resign.

Speaker 72 Ryan Lucas, NPR News, Washington.

Speaker 99 NPR CEO Catherine Barr chairs the board of the Signal Foundation, the nonprofit that supports the app.

Speaker 58 That's not the lady who was in Congress, though.

Speaker 157 Yeah. No.

Speaker 59 Her name is.

Speaker 100 I don't think that's her name.

Speaker 4 No, there were two ladies in Congress. Hold on a second.

Speaker 72 It's NPR News, Washington.

Speaker 99 NPR CEO Catherine Barr chairs the board of the Signal Foundation.

Speaker 94 The other lady, Catherine.

Speaker 4 Catherine, that's her March or March or March or

Speaker 48 there are two ladies from NPR called Catherine?

Speaker 100 Marr.

Speaker 64 Marr.

Speaker 16 Did he say Marr?

Speaker 16 I think it's

Speaker 42 Washington.

Speaker 99 NPR CEO Catherine Marr chairs the board of Marr.

Speaker 5 Marsh Marr.

Speaker 123 Okay. Oh, interesting.

Speaker 29 Well, what is she doing that for?

Speaker 47 Well, that makes it all very suspicious.

Speaker 4 I thought it was very suspicious the first time I heard that. And that's one of the few times that they actually ran the.

Speaker 48 You're going to grill me in Congress.

Speaker 57 Watch this.

Speaker 103 Can I play a couple of those clips?

Speaker 85 I thought those were kind of interesting.

Speaker 27 I would like you to play them.

Speaker 4 I didn't get any of those clips. I love those clips.
The thing is, they don't have, it was funny to listen to. I will say this.

Speaker 4 I was almost going to take this, but then I was thinking, well, I won too many Jesse Waters analysis. It's not going to be a good idea.

Speaker 47 Oh, do you have more today?

Speaker 126 I have none.

Speaker 100 Oh, good.

Speaker 4 But Jesse Waters had some of the best of the clips. And then when you played him up against the long version,

Speaker 4 longer exposition on PBS News Hour. There was no comparison.
The water stuff was far superior.

Speaker 94 Well, I focused really on one thing, and that's the money, because that's what it was about.

Speaker 62 It's about

Speaker 91 do we continue to fund the national public radio?

Speaker 94 Where does the money go?

Speaker 4 And the kicker is, oh, well, the government doesn't really have, it only gives maybe 1% of the total and doesn't mean a lot. And oh, who cares?

Speaker 4 We need this money.

Speaker 47 Okay, I guess I don't need to play the clips.

Speaker 9 You did it again.

Speaker 36 What?

Speaker 104 You went straight to the kicker.

Speaker 13 But that's just what you set me up for it.

Speaker 8 You've got to do a better job of blocking.

Speaker 49 I'm going to play Catherine Maher.

Speaker 33 Be quiet. I understand the subcommittee has questions about funding for NPR and public radio.

Speaker 33 The vast majority of federal dollars, more than $100 million of the $121 million annual appropriation for public radio, goes directly to 386 local, non-commercial stations across the nation.

Speaker 33 This highly efficient investment enables your local stations to raise an average of $7 for every federal dollar.

Speaker 33 As a grantee of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, NPR received federal funding of $11.2 million last year. These funds allow us to maintain the national public radio satellite system,

Speaker 33 helping safeguard our national security, civil defense, and disaster response, and enabling public radio to reach every corner of America.

Speaker 33 Additionally, these funds help protect journalists covering our troops overseas and reverse the decline of local journalism.

Speaker 42 So people don't really understand how NPR works.

Speaker 94 They're all independent stations.

Speaker 134 They have to do their own fundraising.

Speaker 94 The problem is

Speaker 52 they basically can't create much of their own local content.

Speaker 91 I mean, even KUT in Austin,

Speaker 142 remember when we had Snow Apocalypse?

Speaker 29 They were playing fresh air with Terry Gross.

Speaker 166 They have to buy the programming.

Speaker 10 And

Speaker 18 that's where a lot of the money goes because it's commercial companies making the majority of this content.

Speaker 96 It's not like

Speaker 42 government employees.

Speaker 62 All of this comes through the PRX, the public radio exchanges,

Speaker 44 the public, what is it, the public media.

Speaker 109 I forget the name of the group.

Speaker 96 So really, the only thing that makes it a network is explained here.

Speaker 168 I'd like to spend the rest of my time talking about funding.

Speaker 96 This is Jack, Representative Jack from Georgia.

Speaker 168 I know that some of my colleagues talked about it a little bit today, but could you walk us through the amount of money that NPR receives from CPB annually?

Speaker 33 Yes, sure, sir. We receive $11.2 million this past year, the majority of which goes to the public radio satellite system, which we operate on behalf of the entire public radio network.

Speaker 33 We also received a smaller amount of funding. Let's just stop there.

Speaker 96 The PRSS, the public radio satellite system, is an anachronism.

Speaker 101 This thing should immediately be shot out of the sky.

Speaker 67 I think there's still one show that broadcasts live, the morning edition, maybe all things considered,

Speaker 66 is a live stream from the satellite, which, of course, we could do much cheaper with a Starlink dish.

Speaker 29 That would work in case of an emergency.

Speaker 166 But you could still do it.

Speaker 87 I mean, we've had T1 lines for a long time.

Speaker 41 And what all these, it's a very expensive, very antiquated system where they, in essence, download WAV files of programming.

Speaker 109 That's the incredible importance of that

Speaker 90 $11 million.

Speaker 130 And of course,

Speaker 67 Catherine Marr's salary and whatever else

Speaker 44 they do with that.

Speaker 151 But

Speaker 109 that thing is absolutely not necessary.

Speaker 18 But I don't think any of these people in Congress actually understand what NPR is or how it works.

Speaker 33 We also received a smaller amount of funding in the course of the past year that went to help us hire those additional editors and analysts in order to be able to beef up that editorial review.

Speaker 33 We received funding to support the coverage of the recent election in order to make sure that we had our journalists all across the country and were able to speak to Americans of all different political backgrounds.

Speaker 168 And what percentage of your budget share comes from the federal government?

Speaker 33 Depending on how you count it, sir, it is

Speaker 33 less than 5%.

Speaker 168 And to help me understand, too, the CPB, you know, as I understand it,

Speaker 168 Congress has appropriated $500 million to CPB. It flows out, and I think smaller radio stations go and apply for grants for it.

Speaker 15 $500 million for CPB,

Speaker 109 which includes PBS?

Speaker 158 What else does that include?

Speaker 4 It includes a lot of those little stations who have to give the money back. I mean, the whole thing is something of a Ponzi scheme.

Speaker 168 Do you receive payment from smaller radio stations through licensing agreements and things of that nature?

Speaker 33 We do, and the fees for that are

Speaker 33 designed around the amount of.

Speaker 123 What do you mean, designed?

Speaker 96 The fees are designed.

Speaker 38 And of course,

Speaker 40 Jack is only out to get her to stick it to her like everybody else.

Speaker 154 No follow-up questions on that.

Speaker 33 Are

Speaker 33 designed around the amount of funding that they get from private member donations. So it's not, the fees are not designed around federal funding.

Speaker 91 How is a fee designed?

Speaker 153 I mean, a fee is a fee.

Speaker 63 So

Speaker 96 is it based upon how many people listen?

Speaker 109 Is it based on how much money you raise?

Speaker 29 This makes no sense.

Speaker 151 They get money to keep the stations on the air.

Speaker 60 That's expensive.

Speaker 91 And then the fees are designed somehow?

Speaker 11 Designed.

Speaker 4 What I'm trying to say is that if the larger markets have to pay more money

Speaker 126 around

Speaker 33 the amount of funding.

Speaker 4 It's like newspaper syndicates.

Speaker 4 If you're a small town paper with 100,000 cirque, you're not paying the same amount for the Dilbert cartoon as somebody with 250,000 cirque designed around the amount of funding that they get from private member donations.

Speaker 33 So it's not, the fees are not designed around federal funding. They're designed around what sort of direct private support and donations they receive from members and listeners.

Speaker 96 Well, they're basing it on, she's saying that they based it on how much they get.

Speaker 39 So, how much did you raise?

Speaker 38 $2 million.

Speaker 10 Oh, your fee is.

Speaker 4 I don't think that's right.

Speaker 4 I don't know what she's talking about. She's just rambling.
I mean, I think she'd maybe just be snowing the guy.

Speaker 91 Well, here's the real question, and this came from Jack as well.

Speaker 168 Could NPR survive without the 5% that we give NPR annually?

Speaker 33 My belief is that the funding is essential to the public radio system, and that is the 246 member stations, but the 1,300 stations across the nation, so that we're able as a network to serve all Americans with 100% coverage.

Speaker 4 This is a snowjob what she's saying right here. Yes.
There is no substance to what she's saying.

Speaker 94 She's not answering the question.

Speaker 33 Federal funding for our network goes away.

Speaker 33 It means that people in rural parts of America, places where they can't afford to make private donations to support their local journalism, those will be harmed.

Speaker 33 But, sorry, if I may, the bigger harm as well, or the additional harm, is that Americans in places that are affluent or do have many media choices

Speaker 33 will not be able to hear from their fellow Americans that are often under her.

Speaker 18 She says something very interesting.

Speaker 105 At first, I misheard her, but she's saying, What I think she's saying here is rich people who've got a lot of choice won't be able to hear the poor suckers out in the sticks.

Speaker 51 Tell me I'm wrong.

Speaker 4 Americans in places that

Speaker 33 are the bigger harm as well, or the additional harm, is that Americans in places that are affluent or do have many media choices will not be able to hear from their fellow Americans that are often underheard.

Speaker 55 Isn't that what she's saying?

Speaker 49 You won't hear from the poor people without us.

Speaker 4 That's exactly what she's saying. I don't know how

Speaker 4 else could that mean.

Speaker 48 So, NPR.

Speaker 4 So, the rich people are going to suffer. Yes.

Speaker 10 They're going to suffer horribly.

Speaker 103 That's exactly what she's saying.

Speaker 4 If they don't give the little people some money so the little people can speak up, because the little people don't have a voice without the government money.

Speaker 4 So you bastards in the government, you better give the little people some money because

Speaker 4 you're shutting them down.

Speaker 10 Have you ever heard of X or Facebook?

Speaker 124 Little people have a voice these days, ladies.

Speaker 33 But Americans in places that are affluent or do have many media choices will not be able to hear from their fellow Americans that are often underheard.

Speaker 161 And you're an NPR guy.

Speaker 89 Please make sure that next time you hear some poor people who aren't heard, make sure that if they're ever on NPR, you clip it.

Speaker 89 Because usually I only hear douchebags.

Speaker 125 It's all douchebags.

Speaker 120 It's all douchebags.

Speaker 168 Bottom line: if the 5% went away, would NPR still exist?

Speaker 33 Well, it would be incredibly damaging to the federal, to the, excuse me, to the national public radio system.

Speaker 8 Well, this is why I say five-way.

Speaker 4 So, in other words, 5%

Speaker 172 goes to the poor suckers.

Speaker 4 The 5% is going to be incredibly damaging because

Speaker 4 despite what we do, we can't make up 5%

Speaker 4 of

Speaker 4 that funding. We can't find some other way of doing it.
We can't open up gates of hell of advertising. We can't do anything.

Speaker 4 That 5% is all there is to it.

Speaker 36 That was the question.

Speaker 29 That was the question.

Speaker 4 Something is wrong with that answer.

Speaker 47 So instead, we just hounded her.

Speaker 91 It is fun to listen to this.

Speaker 90 This was the Brandon Representative Brandon Gill,

Speaker 91 who did exactly what they're doing to

Speaker 52 National Security Advisor Waltz.

Speaker 36 Let's comb through your tweets and embarrass you.

Speaker 174 It's interesting because a lot of your thinking, as expressed by your publication.

Speaker 4 Hold on, can you stop for a second? Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's John Kennedy, the guy from Louisiana, I think is the guy who perfected this technique in Congress.

Speaker 89 Oh, he has his own YouTube channels.

Speaker 16 And you don't even know how old it is.

Speaker 148 I mean, it's evergreen, the stuff he does.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he has nothing but

Speaker 175 show business.

Speaker 4 Did you write this tweet? Let me just get it straight. And then you read the, is that something you actually wrote? And she says, well, I think so.
Well, you would know. I'm reading right from it.

Speaker 4 He goes on and on.

Speaker 172 This guy did a pretty good job.

Speaker 174 It's interesting because a lot of your thinking, as expressed by your public statements, is deeply infused with economic and cultural Marxism.

Speaker 174 Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy?

Speaker 33 I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier, I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade.

Speaker 10 I've evolved as a whole.

Speaker 16 I've evolved as a human being.

Speaker 8 She said over the last half decade.

Speaker 49 I know that's not a great way.

Speaker 85 You mean five years?

Speaker 4 It was only four, actually, to be honest, if you look at the number. But it's four years ago.
She wrote that.

Speaker 10 Well, she's good.

Speaker 4 Oh, you know,

Speaker 4 everything's evolved over the last half, the last half a decade.

Speaker 39 that's amazing you mean during the biden administration

Speaker 33 earlier i believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade it has evolved why did you tweet that i don't recall the exact context sir so i wouldn't be able to say okay do you believe that america believes in black plunder and white democracy i don't believe that sir

Speaker 174 you tweeted that in reference to a book you were reading at the time apparently the case for reparations i don't think i've ever read that book sir this is my best this is the best one you were reading a book or you tweeted about this book i don't think i've read that book sir i don't think i read that book in the last half decade you tweeted about it you said you took a day off to fully read the case for reparations that on twitter in january of 2020.

Speaker 4 so she's a liar of course she didn't read the book she didn't read white fragility either

Speaker 4 just virtue signaling i have a couple clips coming up later in the show that also do you use this trick. When you say half, I'm thinking about this half-decade thing.
The first thing that

Speaker 4 if you're calculating that in your mind,

Speaker 4 that's 50 years.

Speaker 4 Because when you think of it, when you say half, half is always at 0.5. So it's 0.5, decade, 10.
You multiply, in your brain, you multiply it. And so it says,

Speaker 4 the last half decade, it really, I think subconsciously, it sounds like 50 years.

Speaker 4 I think it's a very tricky NLP.

Speaker 4 I think it's an NLP trick.

Speaker 4 And it gives you the sense that it's a long time.

Speaker 62 Well, she also slipped in their federal public radio, which I thought was interesting.

Speaker 29 She's good. Yeah, she knows.
Yeah. Spook.

Speaker 4 She may be a spook. What's her name again?

Speaker 16 Catherine Maher.

Speaker 162 Maher.

Speaker 10 Maher.

Speaker 174 Said you took a day off to fully read the case for reparations. You put that on Twitter in January of 2020.

Speaker 33 I apologize. I don't recall that I did.

Speaker 33 I'd no doubt that your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall that.

Speaker 174 Do you believe that white people inherently feel superior to other races?

Speaker 78 This is great.

Speaker 109 This is your virtue signaling coming back and slapping you in the face like a wet salmon.

Speaker 174 People inherently feel superior to other races?

Speaker 33 I do not.

Speaker 174 You don't? You tweeted something to that effect. You said, I grew up feeling superior.

Speaker 37 Ha, how white of me.

Speaker 10 Why did you tweet that?

Speaker 33 I think I was probably reflecting on what it was to be,

Speaker 33 to grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages.

Speaker 89 So that's a racist statement right there.

Speaker 52 Because you were white, that means that you had lots of advantages.

Speaker 156 Have you seen?

Speaker 36 What about those poor schlubs who need 5% to listen to NPR, to create content for NPR so the rich people can hear it?

Speaker 10 Okay,

Speaker 4 let me stop you for a second.

Speaker 4 After high school, Marr graduated from the Arabic Language Institute.

Speaker 67 Oh, yeah, we went to

Speaker 4 an intensive program at the American University of Cairo in 2003. She recalled a formative experience and she developed her interest in the Middle East.

Speaker 4 What's she doing here? Marr also studied at the Institut Francais.

Speaker 4 And she was in Damascus. She was in Syria.
She spent time in Lebanon and Tunisia.

Speaker 4 I'm reminded of a meeting I had with the economic hitman for lunch one time. He says,

Speaker 4 my entire family says, don't take Arabic because they're all CIA spooks. He said, Don't take Arabic because you'll be stuck in the Middle East.

Speaker 94 No, you want to Mandarin.

Speaker 4 From 2007 to 2010, she was at UNICEF. Then she was at the National Democratic Institute as an ICT program officer, worked at the World Bank.

Speaker 4 She worked at Twitter,

Speaker 4 DC-based Access Now Operation Advocacy.

Speaker 4 This woman's

Speaker 4 Wikipedia Foundation. She was the communications officer there.

Speaker 4 Mary, there's one thing after, this is an unbelievable bio. U.S.
State Department Foreign Affairs Policy Board

Speaker 4 worked with Clinton, Secretary with Hillary.

Speaker 4 She's just unbelievable.

Speaker 91 Well, this leads me to believe that Signal is not a safe app.

Speaker 4 That leads me to believe the exact same thing.

Speaker 102 Or it's just a backdoor operation.

Speaker 33 I was probably reflecting on what it was.

Speaker 4 You know, you could have probably, you know, talking about that, it's possible that

Speaker 4 they just slip Jeffrey in and nobody really put him on the call at all. Very suspicious.

Speaker 4 And this woman is extremely suspicious.

Speaker 33 To grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages.

Speaker 174 It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior.

Speaker 33 I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir. I was just reflecting on my own experiences.

Speaker 174 You think that white people should pay reparations?

Speaker 33 I have never said that, sir.

Speaker 174 Yes, you did.

Speaker 65 You said it in January of 2020. You tweeted.

Speaker 174 Yes, the North. Yes, all of us.
Yes, America. Yes, our original collective sin and unpaid debt.
Yes, reparations. Yes, on this day.

Speaker 33 I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.

Speaker 174 What kind of reparations was it a reference to?

Speaker 33 I think it was just a reference to the idea that we all owe much to the people who came before us.

Speaker 174 That's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted.

Speaker 113 And he went on and on and on and on.

Speaker 66 But that was entertaining.

Speaker 4 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 But she was slick. I watched her.
She was calm, cool, and collected.

Speaker 123 Yeah.

Speaker 109 I mean, in regards to

Speaker 138 Signal, that's a little troubling.

Speaker 4 I wonder why she well, maybe on the other hand, maybe that's exactly why it is sanctioned for use within the government, which I learned.

Speaker 29 I didn't know that.

Speaker 37 I didn't think that they could use

Speaker 47 their private phones for anything that had a government business.

Speaker 91 How about the then we have the National Archive Act and all kinds of stuff that you have to,

Speaker 150 no matter what has been discussed, has to be archived somewhere?

Speaker 4 Yeah, supposedly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 119 someone needs to fess up or someone needs to go. And I think that Heg Seth is one more gaffe away

Speaker 4 from

Speaker 4 yes, you're right. One more gaffe, he's done.

Speaker 113 Yeah.

Speaker 113 So

Speaker 180 I like him, but the way he responded, did not like him.

Speaker 86 Thought that was very, very poor.

Speaker 58 Yeah, it was very poor.

Speaker 4 He's not using his resources.

Speaker 17 Use your words, Pete.

Speaker 4 No, I'm talking about, you know, there are people, the Pentagon has something like 27 to 60,000 public relations specialists.

Speaker 4 I mean, that many people, so they can just hound the media. And they have people there that could that, how should I respond to this?

Speaker 4 A meeting could take place with with 10 of the top people

Speaker 4 and they would give him

Speaker 4 the marching orders.

Speaker 4 I think they're cut him off.

Speaker 58 I wonder if

Speaker 85 this could have been a Pegasus type deal where someone basically just controls your phone

Speaker 94 and

Speaker 91 can remotely add someone to a signal chat.

Speaker 99 Watch this.

Speaker 4 That seems more likely. That wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 112 By the way,

Speaker 91 Tina's out of town.

Speaker 87 She's

Speaker 94 Indiana visiting her mom.

Speaker 91 And so that gives me an opportunity to watch stuff that, you know, how you don't know per se, but we're sitting at home and I'm surfing through the Netflix and I'm like, hey, let's watch this.

Speaker 90 And I'm like, oh, no, that is Robert De Niro in it.

Speaker 107 I hate him.

Speaker 52 Which, by the way, I'm like, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 140 So I watched Zero Day.

Speaker 96 which is starring De Niro and

Speaker 96 he plays the president, ex-president of the United States.

Speaker 48 Very good movie.

Speaker 30 And it deals a lot with

Speaker 87 what can happen with phones and apps and even more delightful how

Speaker 85 the circumvention is.

Speaker 109 Everyone gets around

Speaker 91 all of these things when they're doing something nefarious.

Speaker 142 How do the bad guys communicate?

Speaker 64 How? Ham radio, baby.

Speaker 10 Ham radio.

Speaker 1 That's when the story.

Speaker 4 Well, you know, De Niro was also in Wag the the Dog.

Speaker 60 Which was a fantastic movie.

Speaker 4 Which is another fantastic movie.

Speaker 91 He was great until he had to pull his own documentary out of the Tribeca Film Festival about how his kid got autism, and he thought it was from vaccines.

Speaker 90 And then they were like, you'll never make another movie in this town again, De Niro.

Speaker 5 Oh, okay.

Speaker 119 Do you remember that?

Speaker 4 Oh, that was during the show. That information has been lost on the show.

Speaker 39 No, that was during the show.

Speaker 58 Yeah, he pulled from his own film festival.

Speaker 52 He pulled the documentary.

Speaker 109 Oh, no, there's not enough evidence about this.

Speaker 135 I've decided to pull this documentary.

Speaker 38 That's when he went sour.

Speaker 86 Come on, man. Taxi driver.

Speaker 68 Was he in taxi driver?

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 146 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So. Well, what else we got in this regard?

Speaker 109 Well, I don't think much else. I mean, we'll just see what happens, but we need to keep an eye on Heg Seth because I think he's on deck.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's what it looks like.

Speaker 119 They're not letting up on this.

Speaker 47 You got a top MS-13 guy? Who cares?

Speaker 38 SignalGate.

Speaker 47 You're going to put 25% tariff on all cars coming into America?

Speaker 39 Who cares? SignalGate?

Speaker 112 Who cares?

Speaker 148 Nobody cares.

Speaker 109 Everybody wants it.

Speaker 151 Get some veterans.

Speaker 91 Well, I fought in the war and people I know died because of intelligence mess-ups.

Speaker 113 So cynical.

Speaker 10 All this stuff.

Speaker 94 I hate mainstream media.

Speaker 4 So let's go to the car tariffs. Okay.

Speaker 4 I have the BBC. I have a series.
These are all spelled C-A-E

Speaker 4 and tariff is misspelled.

Speaker 10 I usually correct these words.

Speaker 9 Rayifs.

Speaker 52 You got K-Rayefs.

Speaker 26 I thought K-Raye was a lady that I was very interested when I saw your clips come in.

Speaker 91 People would have to know. John sends me clips.
I don't listen to them.

Speaker 170 I just look at the titles to know, okay, maybe I don't need a whole series of clips here because if there's something about K

Speaker 109 Rariffs in the news, I don't need a clip on it.

Speaker 4 It was a typo.

Speaker 28 And apparently she's the one who's

Speaker 4 blurry.

Speaker 4 So we start with the now.

Speaker 103 My vision was blurry.

Speaker 36 Do you drive?

Speaker 4 This is not the analysis clips.

Speaker 5 Yeah, this is the

Speaker 4 now, just the BBC straight up.

Speaker 86 Is this World Service?

Speaker 4 Yeah, BBC World Service.

Speaker 70 And now another series of clips from the BBC World Service.

Speaker 182 President Trump has announced a 25% tariff on all cars imported into the United States from the 2nd of April. He claimed the measure would spur growth in the U.S.

Speaker 182 car industry and create jobs and investment. Our North America business correspondent Erin Delmore reports.

Speaker 184 President Trump said the new tariffs would bring car and truck production back to the U.S. and generate billions of dollars in revenue.
Mr.

Speaker 184 Trump made clear that the new tariffs are permanent and not a negotiating tactic designed to extract concessions from America's trade partners.

Speaker 184 But determining which vehicles are made in America can be complicated, particularly when it comes to America's closest neighbors, Mexico and Canada.

Speaker 184 The new taxes will immediately hit millions of foreign-made cars sold in the U.S. each year.

Speaker 184 The move is poised to send a shock through the industry with potential for higher prices, lower supply, and lower production. Shares of the U.S.'s big three automakers fell in after-hours trading.

Speaker 154 Hmm, okay. Well, shaking things up.

Speaker 4 I don't know why the prices would fall because you think these guys, the U.S. automakers, would benefit, but I guess the only car that's actually made here is Tesla.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the rest of them are made for parts from everywhere.

Speaker 29 Isn't there a carve-out for parts?

Speaker 4 No, not yet.

Speaker 49 Yeah, I think you're wrong.

Speaker 4 Well, they've been talking about it. I listened to this morning.
I was watching

Speaker 4 Outnumbered,

Speaker 4 and they had Charles Payne on as the dude, because there's a bunch of women and one guy. And that's why it's called Outnumbered.

Speaker 4 And he went on about it, and they talked about the car parts carve-out, and and it was like it was still unsettled.

Speaker 26 Ah, well, I'm just going to interrupt, and then we'll get back to your BBC anal clips.

Speaker 186 This is French.

Speaker 130 I know what it says.

Speaker 74 This production line in Japan is churning out Toyota cars, many of them destined for the U.S.

Speaker 74 In a week's time, they'll be subject to a punishing 25% tariff, prompting the government to plea for an exclusion.

Speaker 23 We have again strongly urged the U.S.

Speaker 10 government to exclude Japan from the scope of these measures.

Speaker 74 Other top suppliers hit hard by the tax are Canada, Mexico, Germany, and South Korea. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney called it a direct attack on the country's workers.

Speaker 5 We will defend our workers.

Speaker 4 We will defend

Speaker 174 our companies. We will defend

Speaker 5 our country.

Speaker 170 Currently, half the cars sold in the U.S.

Speaker 74 are American-made, and industry experts say the move could increase prices per car by thousands of dollars and impact jobs. President Donald Trump says it will revitalize American industry.

Speaker 71 And we're going to

Speaker 71 charge

Speaker 71 countries for doing business in our country and taking our jobs, taking our wealth.

Speaker 74 After a 25% duty on steel and aluminium, this is Trump's latest move to Renegue on a trade deal he struck in his first term with Mexico and Canada. The new tariff applies to cars and light trucks.

Speaker 74 Auto parts that comply with the 2019 deal will remain tariff-free for now.

Speaker 64 There you go.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I don't think that's correct.

Speaker 38 Oh, it's France 24.

Speaker 66 How could you doubt the French?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't think they know what they're talking about.

Speaker 19 All right, okay.

Speaker 4 So let's go with the analysis clips.

Speaker 68 These should be fairly short.

Speaker 187 Here, to make sense of that announcement, is our North of America correspondent Aaron Delmo.

Speaker 184 Clearest way through it is to think of it as a 25% tariff on all cars not made in the United United States and no tariffs on cars made in the United States.

Speaker 184 He also made a mention that Americans would be able to deduct interest payments on their car loans from their taxes if their cars are made in America.

Speaker 184 You know, to me, one of the big things that stood out is he said he's not budging.

Speaker 184 He said that these tariffs are permanent and that he's not putting this forward as a negotiating tactic to try to get concessions from America's trade partners in future tariff negotiations.

Speaker 184 He said this is permanent. We are going to bring domestic production, domestic manufacturing of cars and trucks back to the United States.

Speaker 187 What about car parts coming into the U.S.?

Speaker 187 Is there any clarification yet as whether they may face import duties as well? Because that would be significant, wouldn't it?

Speaker 184 Absolutely. Here's why it would be significant.

Speaker 184 Car parts can come in from foreign suppliers, but they also are made in Mexico and Canada as well, and then cross borders into the United States into U.S.

Speaker 184 production facilities for cars that look to be U.S. made.
They look and purport to be American-made cars, but perhaps within the cars there are not American-made parts, those are foreign-made parts.

Speaker 184 And so now the question, yes, is: will they be tariffed? The best indication and reporting we have now is that the answer to that question is yes.

Speaker 187 It is. Yes, that appears to be the case.

Speaker 58 Well, there goes my Corinthian leather.

Speaker 54 Another boomer joke.

Speaker 8 I'm easing into it.

Speaker 105 You're getting worse.

Speaker 109 I'm easing into it. I'm starting to like it.

Speaker 4 The old-timers that listen to this show must get a kick out of us.

Speaker 67 Someone, hopefully, somewhere does.

Speaker 4 Well, the kids don't. You're going, what the fuck are these guys talking about?

Speaker 4 So here we go with clip two.

Speaker 187 This announcement. I mean, we are used to lots of tariff announcements.
This seems a pretty serious one because Donald Trump has clearly said he's not going to withdraw these tariffs.

Speaker 188 Absolutely. And it's a really interesting line in the sand.
And listening to Mark Carney there, you know, having spent a lot of time in Canada, you know, the Canadian auto sector is hugely reliant.

Speaker 188 This is, you know, hundreds of thousands of jobs, billions of dollars. So I'm very significant.
But I think around the world, now it's not going to affect Australia.

Speaker 188 We don't make any cars anymore, haven't for quite some time. So it won't have an impact directly in that way.
But, you know, these things have a tendency of having a big ripple effect, right?

Speaker 33 and

Speaker 188 across other sectors and you know the steel aluminium um tariffs that will be coming on to australia already there's shaking the chain on on drugs and medicines um that's something australia provides a lot of medicines to the us and brings a lot of in we have a a free medicines uh policy or program uh for lots of australians rely on the government to buy uh for no cost or low-cost medicines ireland's also worried about it so um but i mean i don't know can he really have a permanent tariff?

Speaker 188 I don't know. I don't know whether that's possible.
I would imagine

Speaker 188 unless he intends to be the permanent president, I wouldn't think there'd be permanent tariffs, but I don't know. And I don't think we should be

Speaker 188 predicting too much at this point.

Speaker 187 Stephanie, it is a complicated issue,

Speaker 187 tariffs here, because the global car industry operates in so many different parts of the world.

Speaker 58 So you're sitting there in your office and you're like, oh, yeah,

Speaker 37 I got to do this.

Speaker 95 I got to get that laugh extra, extra kooky.

Speaker 105 We do work for you people.

Speaker 10 What was it?

Speaker 143 Shaking the chain.

Speaker 29 I like that.

Speaker 4 Shaking the chain. This whole thing is because

Speaker 4 this is a non-significant or a quite significant

Speaker 4 idea that he thinks he's going to do.

Speaker 10 The global.

Speaker 4 You start to realize when you start hearing these analysis, especially the moaning and groaning that takes place from everyone. Oh, the Australians, now they're worried about this and that.

Speaker 4 And oh, the Canadians think it's all about them.

Speaker 4 You realize that the intake, the globalist entanglements have been set up so well

Speaker 4 that it's like, wow, these guys, this is Trump is not going to pull this off.

Speaker 80 I think he's going to pull it off.

Speaker 57 Oh, I think he will. Oh, I definitely think he will.

Speaker 10 And I'll tell you why after your clips. Okay.
All right. And onward.

Speaker 187 Around 50% of cars sold in the U.S. are imported.
It is the world's biggest importer of cars. About 22% of those imports in 2024 came from Mexico.

Speaker 187 Juan Carlos Baker Peneda, of course, familiar voice on this program, is Mexico's former vice minister for

Speaker 187 foreign trade, currently a researcher at the Pan American University in Mexico City.

Speaker 151 Quiters, hello, Juan Carlos. I am.

Speaker 187 You know, there's a lot going on in the world and a lot of confusion about many things.

Speaker 120 You're in Mexico.

Speaker 77 Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 187 What do you make of this decision? It could have a huge impact on the car industry there.

Speaker 151 I love this.

Speaker 29 You're in Mexico.

Speaker 6 Yes, yes, I'm going to tell them in Mexico.

Speaker 193 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 193 The consequences of this are not entirely clear right now. But as you say, the impact on this is very significant because cars represent the largest export of Mexico to the United States.

Speaker 193 It also represents a significant, sizable contribution of the GDP. Anywhere between 8% and 9% of Mexico's GDP somehow is connected to the automotive industry.

Speaker 193 So the fact that these tariffs are announced, the fact that President Trump seems to have no regard whatsoever for the USMCI and its rules, well, clearly is very disturbing.

Speaker 193 Right now, today, the Minister of the Economy, Secretary Marcelo Evrad, and his team are in Washington, and it has been reported that they will be having meetings tonight and tomorrow with the people of President Trump's cabinet, the Secretary of Commerce.

Speaker 193 And well, clearly, something something has to be worked out because if the tariffs are imposed as the president suggests, well, the impact on Mexico is going to be significant.

Speaker 193 And it's going to change the mood, I would say, Rojo, between Mexico and the United States right now. And the relationship as it is is going through some tense moments.

Speaker 193 And this clearly is not going to help at all.

Speaker 4 Go on and on. And so let's go to the last clip, which is, I think, another.

Speaker 4 So we have the Mexicans complaining, the Australians complaining. I don't know why they're complaining.
The Canadians complaining, the Europeans come, everyone's complaining.

Speaker 44 Because they believe he's serious, and I think he is.

Speaker 187 Let us hear a couple of more voices now. Firstly, here's Glenn Stevens.
He's executive director of Detroit-based industry, auto industry group, Mitch Auto.

Speaker 187 He told me these tariffs are bad news for the industry and customers.

Speaker 195 We don't see any positives in the short term. We had anticipated this.

Speaker 195 The president had signaled this, but about half of the vehicles sold in the United States every year are imported, 7.68 million last year. So this is a significant shock to the system.

Speaker 195 We also have steel and aluminum tariffs. We have China tariffs, now reciprocal and now these tariffs.
The cost of the vehicle, the input cost will go up.

Speaker 195 We expect anywhere from $3,000 to $10,000, depending on the transaction price of the vehicle, that will increase. And in the U.S., a vehicle already costs $49,000 to purchase new on average.

Speaker 195 So it's already at an all-time high.

Speaker 6 We're concerned about this.

Speaker 195 We have a lot of questions right now tonight that we're trying to sort through.

Speaker 187 What's the top one on your list that you're going to try and answer? Which is the one you're struggling with at the most at the moment?

Speaker 197 Is you try and make sense to you?

Speaker 195 Yeah, the number one issue is are vehicles from Canada and Mexico, because of the existing USMCA agreement, are they included in this? It appears that they are, but we don't have confirmation of that.

Speaker 195 And that is a big situation, particularly for the companies based in Michigan, Ford, GM, and Stellantis.

Speaker 91 So, just to give you an idea,

Speaker 52 and actually, one of our producers just posted that

Speaker 162 in the troll room.

Speaker 137 In the Netherlands,

Speaker 170 you have

Speaker 121 something called BPM,

Speaker 63 which is a

Speaker 198 special tax for

Speaker 19 cars.

Speaker 91 And if you do the math,

Speaker 6 a

Speaker 142 let me see, a Ford Mustang, which costs, what is it, $35,000, $40,000

Speaker 78 in the Netherlands, $120,000 after the VAT, the BPM, the climate tax, all that stuff is put on.

Speaker 39 But BPM is just a made-up number.

Speaker 64 It's like, oh, well, you know,

Speaker 64 we got to tax you for that.

Speaker 158 So Trump is not wrong.

Speaker 4 No, I think he's correct.

Speaker 116 And when you look at

Speaker 4 what I'm saying is not, I'm not complaining about his correctness or his righteousness about this. I'm complaining,

Speaker 4 not complaining, but I'm suggesting that the entanglements are so broad-based that it's going to be almost impossible to actually

Speaker 4 make any of this work.

Speaker 30 But

Speaker 96 this is the hill he's going to die on.

Speaker 137 This has been his thing

Speaker 62 for 30, 40 years, he's been talking about about forever.

Speaker 116 So now he has the opportunity and he means it and he's trying to brand it, but he's not doing a very good job.

Speaker 71 Well, I may give a lot of countries breaks, but it's reciprocal. But we might be even nicer than that.

Speaker 71 You know, we've been very nice to a lot of countries for a long time, but I call it Liberation Day. April 2nd is Liberation Day.
But today, as you know, we did something with respect to Venezuela.

Speaker 71 You heard about that. And that will be quite important.

Speaker 71 We'll be announcing announcing some additional tariffs over the next few days, having to do with automobiles, cars, and having also to do a little bit with lumber down the road, lumber and

Speaker 71 chips. Chips.
We're going to get all those chip companies coming back. They're already coming back without even doing it, so it's been very good.
But we'll be announcing some others.

Speaker 71 But for the most part, April 2nd will be a big day. That'll be reciprocal day.
And we'll be bringing some of the money back that's been taken from us. Let's be nice by using the word taken.

Speaker 71 I don't want to use a stronger word because these guys are professional politicians, and they don't like to hear those words.

Speaker 71 I refuse to use the word stolen from us.

Speaker 58 So it's Liberation Day.

Speaker 27 It's reciprocal day.

Speaker 173 I don't know what day it is.

Speaker 86 It's April 2nd.

Speaker 102 He needs some words.

Speaker 4 Well, that's what you mean by he's not brand new.

Speaker 58 No, no.

Speaker 52 I mean, Liberation, if you're going to do Liberation Day, you need a media package.

Speaker 109 You need some memes out there on the internet of people with big F-250s and Mustangs cruising around.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it could be coordinated better, not to mention. Much better.

Speaker 4 There's really no, he's sticking with this, you know, running a million miles an hour, but not really coordinating anything in such a way that you have a big splash that goes from one thing to another.

Speaker 25 Yeah, so instead he has a very small announcement.

Speaker 71 Today we're delighted to report that Hyundai is announcing a major $5.8 billion investment in American manufacturing.

Speaker 71 In particular, Hyundai will be building a brand new steel plant in Louisiana, which will produce more than 2.7 million metric tons of steel a year, creating more than 1,400 jobs for American steel workers, and then there'll be major expansion after that.

Speaker 71 This will be Hyundai's first ever steel mill in the United States, one of the largest companies in the world, by the way, supplying steel for its auto parts and auto plants in Alabama and Georgia, which will soon produce more than one million American-made cars every single year.

Speaker 5 Boom!

Speaker 71 The cars are coming into this country at levels never seen before. Get ready.

Speaker 71 This investment is a clear demonstration that tariffs very strongly work, and I hope

Speaker 71 other things also, but the tariffs are bringing them in at levels that have not been witnessed.

Speaker 113 So a million American cars. Well, I mean, everyone's going to buy an American car if you're going to buy a car, or American-made car, I should say.

Speaker 26 That part will work, especially if you get if you're allowed to deduct the interest on your car loan.

Speaker 126 Whoa.

Speaker 57 Now you're talking.

Speaker 67 But that's a Congress thing.

Speaker 119 That's not an executive order, is it?

Speaker 139 That's a tax thing.

Speaker 96 Yeah, which is Congress.

Speaker 4 I would say

Speaker 4 the problem is we don't, you know, with half the cars being imported until these reports came out, I didn't realize that half of our, in other words, our own automotive industry can't even keep up with the Toyota

Speaker 4 and BMW and all the people that ship cars into this country.

Speaker 4 So half of them are imported. They'd have to double production of American cars, which they're not going to be able to do.
You can't just double production

Speaker 4 overnight. And I think one thing that's going to happen is the used car market is going to heat up again.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 119 exactly.

Speaker 87 I'm like, I'm not driving my car. I'm keeping my miles.

Speaker 64 But I'll need a a car.

Speaker 199 That's the problem.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you need a car.

Speaker 47 Do you have wind chimes in your studio now all of a sudden?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 4 this is those things in the back. It's funny.
You know, I don't understand how that mic can pick this up.

Speaker 44 It's my ears.

Speaker 4 Well, I don't think anyone else can.

Speaker 4 That's the chat room.

Speaker 4 I'm going to

Speaker 68 bring these.

Speaker 47 Trolls, do you hear the chimes?

Speaker 4 Now I'm ringing them loud.

Speaker 63 Yeah, well, you hear that for sure.

Speaker 44 Well, not necessarily.

Speaker 4 That's on the back side of the mic.

Speaker 62 Everybody hears it.

Speaker 103 Everybody hears it.

Speaker 100 They all hear that.

Speaker 64 Yeah, they all hear it.

Speaker 29 Yes.

Speaker 4 It's disappointing. It must be reflective.

Speaker 40 That could be it.

Speaker 69 Of course, one of the hottest car manufacturers right now is certainly not American.

Speaker 200 BYD sales last year surpassed the $100 billion mark, beating rival Tesla on revenue for the first time since 2018. It reported a revenue of $107 billion for 2024, up 29%.

Speaker 200 Tesla's 2024 revenue, meanwhile, stood at $97.7 billion. This year already looks like it could be an even better one for the Chinese EV maker.

Speaker 200 It unveiled a new ecosystem that allows EVs to charge for 400 kilometers in just five minutes and introduce advanced driver assistance technology in even its most basic models.

Speaker 4 I'd like to know this BYD I'm impressed with.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 4 of course, they don't sell even one car in this country.

Speaker 4 So the market possibilities for them is pretty high.

Speaker 109 I think you have the same question I have

Speaker 58 about the charging.

Speaker 40 How does this work?

Speaker 117 Well, I looked it up.

Speaker 109 It will charge within five minutes with a, now they make it sound nice to say a thousand kilowatt charger.

Speaker 42 That's a megawatt.

Speaker 47 Are you going to put a megawatt charger in my house now?

Speaker 4 No, it's not for. No, the idea.
No, that's not the idea.

Speaker 95 That's what I read.

Speaker 4 No, the idea is that you have gas station-like facilities

Speaker 4 that you drive to and you stick it just like

Speaker 4 in a normal gas station. The big advantage,

Speaker 4 we don't have a, I don't keep gas here at the house. I go to the gas station, and within five minutes, I fill up a tank of gas.

Speaker 4 The idea is that you should be able to do the same thing with an electric car, as opposed to nowadays where you stop at one of these charging stations, you have to wait a half an hour for the car to get even a 300-mile, even a half-charge.

Speaker 4 It takes an hour to two hours sometimes to get a full charge no i i i understand so they want to make it make it so you don't have to charge at home i i understand but are you going to get a megawatt at gas stations how is that going to happen

Speaker 98 one megawatt

Speaker 4 that's a pretty big jolt

Speaker 49 i mean yeah yes you're absolutely right but that means you need a whole bunch of infrastructure to do what you're doing

Speaker 28 is not there you're right

Speaker 28 um

Speaker 4 They can't even. In fact, Biden, for the whole four years, if you recall, right at the get-go in 2020, says, we're going to build 300,000 charging stations or some outrageous number.

Speaker 4 It was at least 50,000. I'm not sure what the number is now because I've forgotten, but he was going to build, and he built one.

Speaker 62 So BYD has a deal with Shell

Speaker 91 in Shenzhen,

Speaker 96 and the airport has 258 public fast charging ports.

Speaker 63 I don't know if these are the

Speaker 4 no, they're not the no, no, this five-minute thing is brand new. There's no way that they're going to have that many online right away.
It's going to take forever. So basically.

Speaker 4 But if it takes a megawatt,

Speaker 4 you know, you're going to have to have some serious juice going in there.

Speaker 109 So they, so they say that, so this is near the airport, solar panels installed on the roof could generate about 300 kilowatt hours of renewable electricity electronically used to charge the vehicles.

Speaker 38 I'm skeptical of that, too.

Speaker 29 So, I mean, a kilowatt hour.

Speaker 4 Especially in China or around that airport, I've been to China enough to know that you're a lot of people.

Speaker 31 But there's a smog.

Speaker 4 There's no sun.

Speaker 10 Exactly.

Speaker 41 So I'm skeptical about this announcement.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 to get that amount of power, you have to have these coal-burning

Speaker 4 power stations

Speaker 4 making this smog worse.

Speaker 98 Yeah.

Speaker 98 Yeah.

Speaker 86 So I'm very skeptical about all that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I am too. I mean, I think they may have the technology, but I don't think they have.

Speaker 52 I mean, I could make it.

Speaker 4 By the way, I'm skeptical about the technology, too, too.

Speaker 27 If I could get a megawatt of power, I'd be mining Bitcoin.

Speaker 29 Come on, man.

Speaker 171 I'm not going to charge my car.

Speaker 16 I'll stay home and print money.

Speaker 29 There's a lot of power.

Speaker 158 One of the news girls, you'll recognize who it is.

Speaker 43 I don't know if it's CBS or the NBC girl.

Speaker 119 I talked to Warren Buffett about the tariffs, and he had some interesting answers.

Speaker 203 How do you think tariffs will affect the economy?

Speaker 144 I mean, tariffs are actually, we've had a lot of experience with them. They're an act of war

Speaker 144 to some degree.

Speaker 203 How do you think tariffs will impact inflation?

Speaker 3 Over time, they're attacks on goods.

Speaker 22 I mean, you know, it's an attack.

Speaker 157 What?

Speaker 4 Is that Nora?

Speaker 96 I think it is Nora, yeah.

Speaker 197 Yeah.

Speaker 170 Well,

Speaker 191 it's a highly edited piece, but she's talking about inflation.

Speaker 91 he's talking about inflation, but he's talking about money printing inflation as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 119 On goods.

Speaker 144 I mean, you know, the truth very doesn't pay up.

Speaker 144 You always have to just, and then what?

Speaker 3 You always have to ask that question in economics. Always say, and then what?

Speaker 203 So is there an answer for that when people say, you know, inflation persists, consumer prices keep going up? When's the end in sight?

Speaker 3 No, prices will be higher 10 years from now, and 20 years from now, and 30 years from now.

Speaker 205 And what do you think about what's happening in Washington Washington right now?

Speaker 39 That's because of money printing.

Speaker 47 Of course,

Speaker 67 it'll be more expensive 10 years from now, 20 years from now.

Speaker 4 It always has been.

Speaker 95 Yeah, we also used to buy our Toyota trucks for $559.99.

Speaker 144 I think it's Washington. Yeah.

Speaker 14 It's, you know, technology changes things, all kinds of things, but Washington is Washington.

Speaker 3 And the problem with politics is that you tend to have to make tiny compromises as you go along.

Speaker 144 There you go.

Speaker 144 So so

Speaker 29 they got they got him to say prices will go up but i don't think he was uh in the same conversation and we'll see we'll see what happens i mean it all comes down to what do you want to buy you know he's not taxing uh avocados

Speaker 58 no tariffs on that

Speaker 158 on a car well when's the last time you bought a car

Speaker 47 26 years ago

Speaker 35 I bought a car

Speaker 4 I buy this last car used of course Of course. Bought it about seven years ago, maybe.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 29 It's not like, oh,

Speaker 42 no one will buy cars anymore.

Speaker 145 We'll see.

Speaker 109 In general, though, the economy of certain states is pretty bad.

Speaker 120 Really bad in California.

Speaker 66 This was a shocking report, John.

Speaker 27 Shocking.

Speaker 53 Several businesses along the famed Sunset Strip have closed in recent months.

Speaker 206 Others are on the verge, and there is a community effort underway to save one of them. KTLA's Annie Rose Ramos, live in West Hollywood with more on that.
Annie Rose, good morning.

Speaker 56 Hey, guys, good morning to you both. Yeah, we keep on hearing about this happening over and over again.

Speaker 56 We counted a total of five businesses and restaurants that have announced they're closing just in the past two months.

Speaker 38 Okay, so she's on the Sunset Strip.

Speaker 140 It's a big story.

Speaker 47 An important restaurant is closing.

Speaker 91 Which one is it? You've been up and down the strip.

Speaker 90 You've been to Ladome.

Speaker 119 It's not La Dome, by the way.

Speaker 109 You've been to some of the cool places on Sunset Strip.

Speaker 38 Which one is closing?

Speaker 4 Probably some place I never heard of.

Speaker 52 No, you've heard of this one.

Speaker 4 On the Sunset Strip.

Speaker 123 I've been to this one many times.

Speaker 198 I don't know.

Speaker 56 Here on the Sunset Strip, including the restaurant you see behind me, beloved Les Petit Four. It has been around.

Speaker 172 Les Petit Four.

Speaker 17 Le Petit Four.

Speaker 30 That's where all the

Speaker 91 Russians in track suits hang out.

Speaker 27 I've never been there.

Speaker 52 You've never been to Le Petit Four?

Speaker 5 Oh. No.

Speaker 56 For over 40 years. And now some community members coming together to make a last-ditch effort in order to try and save it.
Take a look here. They are posting this GoFundMe page.

Speaker 67 Yeah, with $6,000.

Speaker 29 Good luck keeping your restaurant going.

Speaker 4 Especially on that property.

Speaker 30 Yeah. But

Speaker 86 maybe the strip has just died.

Speaker 68 It probably has.

Speaker 4 Probably. The last time I was down there, it wasn't that it didn't have the same vibrancy that it used to have.

Speaker 91 That's for sure.

Speaker 42 Man, when I lived there, it didn't have that vibrancy.

Speaker 68 It was already horrible

Speaker 134 compared to like late 80s, early 90s when we go out to LA to film stuff.

Speaker 162 No,

Speaker 4 it's no good. Yeah, there's a depressing aspect to LA at the moment.

Speaker 4 Like San Francisco, it's just, it's, it's a, it's depressing because of all the homeless and the just, and it's got nothing to do with the California economy.

Speaker 4 It has to do with the policies regarding the homeless encampments and the allowance of crime a lot of crime well but who who lives in California just poor people and a bunch of rich people

Speaker 4 I'm just looking at middle class in California it's not a lot of middle class in the valley in the porn industry

Speaker 4 it's not generalized okay All right, you've got

Speaker 67 you've got several series here, so I'm going to let you choose one.

Speaker 105 Let's see what we got.

Speaker 109 Because, you know, unlike you, when you have a series, I just step back and let you go.

Speaker 28 Yeah, there's some of this.

Speaker 4 Let's do the order on a

Speaker 4 quickie. This is the order on elections that didn't get any play at all.

Speaker 180 Oh, I thought it was pretty big.

Speaker 4 Trump on the elections,

Speaker 4 I didn't hear much about it.

Speaker 207 President Trump signed an executive order yesterday that aims to make sweeping changes to elections and voter registration, including a proof of citizenship requirement.

Speaker 207 Legal experts are calling it an overreach of presidential authority and warned that the provisions could block tens of millions of eligible Americans from voting.

Speaker 207 Joining us now with more is NPR's Jude Joffee Block. Hi, Jude.
Hello.

Speaker 100 Hello. Hello.
Hello. Hello.
Okay, so what exactly is in this?

Speaker 51 Once again, no time or expense spared for this program.

Speaker 10 Executive order. Right, right, right.

Speaker 21 Well, there's a lot in here.

Speaker 201 And so it lays out a number of new requirements and says if states don't comply, they will not get federal funding.

Speaker 201 So one big change is this new proof of citizenship requirement to register to vote in federal elections.

Speaker 201 So you'd need to show a copy of a citizenship document, like a passport, to a local or state official in order to register to vote or whenever you update your registration, like if you move.

Speaker 201 Another change, the executive order aims to stop states from counting mailed ballots that are postmarked by election day, but arrive after. This is something that a lot of states allow.

Speaker 207 Wait, legally, can the president make all of these changes simply by executive order?

Speaker 201 Well, that's really the key question. So, Trump is trying to assert that he, as president, has authority over elections, and that's not been the case.

Speaker 201 We have a decentralized system where states make a lot of their own election rules. But this order seeks to expand the president's power and test how far it can go.

Speaker 148 Yeah, I don't think he's going to get that through.

Speaker 109 I like it, but I don't think that's going to happen.

Speaker 28 I agree. I really

Speaker 28 agree.

Speaker 90 did learn that in Title 18 of the U.S.

Speaker 109 Code that if you vote in a general election as a non-resident and non-citizen, I should say,

Speaker 117 and you're caught,

Speaker 18 you will not be prosecuted as long as you believed you were a citizen, which is very interesting.

Speaker 4 I don't think that's in this report, you shouldn't.

Speaker 109 No, I don't know when that snuck in, but that is like, oh, oh, okay.

Speaker 95 So you can do it.

Speaker 117 If you get caught, oh, well, no problem.

Speaker 35 I thought I was a citizen.

Speaker 144 Huh? What?

Speaker 201 We've already heard from voting rights advocates that lawsuits are going to challenge this. And normally, an overhaul like this would be something for Congress to take on.

Speaker 201 And in fact, Republicans have been backing a bill called the SAVE Act that includes a lot of the same provisions as this order.

Speaker 9 Oh, man, that thing's been around for years, the SAVE Act.

Speaker 59 That's not new.

Speaker 4 It goes nowhere.

Speaker 21 Oh, no.

Speaker 201 That bill likely faces an uphill battle in the Senate. So instead, some critics are saying Trump is forcing through that legislation by executive fiat.

Speaker 207 Well, what has President Trump said about why he's pushing these changes?

Speaker 201 Well, he says it's necessary for election integrity. Here he is yesterday when he signed the order.

Speaker 71 We've got to straighten out our election. This country is so sick because of the election, the fake elections and the bad elections.

Speaker 201 You know, of course, Trump touts the results of the last election, which he won, but it's long been part of his brand to make false claims, false claims about voter fraud, most notably when he denied the results of the 2020 election.

Speaker 201 And in the lead up to this past election, he and his allies made baseless, baseless claims about the threat of non-citizens voting in large numbers, which we know from audits and studies that such cases are really rare, yet that's what they're targeting here.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 207 Okay, well, I'm curious, how are voting experts reacting to this order?

Speaker 25 You know, I just had an idea.

Speaker 95 Exit strategy does require work, but we could get people to help us.

Speaker 25 We could just do NPR Remixed.

Speaker 66 And it's just doing exactly what you do.

Speaker 30 All those

Speaker 96 strange things they put in there, all of the little NLP tricks, all the hyperphoras, all that stuff could just be NPR Remix.

Speaker 150 And it would be a popular stream.

Speaker 109 You know, put it to some music. It wouldn't get a couple of our end-of-show mixers to put a beat under it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it would be. I'm sure NPR would take offense and we'd get a cease and desist

Speaker 35 for

Speaker 125 what you write for you for you

Speaker 4 well you know I think there's an argument that could be made that you could say it was for inter for entertainment humor purposes parody parody under

Speaker 100 um

Speaker 154 what's it called

Speaker 201 i don't know fair use fair use yes parody under fair use totally appropriate yeah well until then i'm doing these well i spoke with ucla law professor rick hass and he brought up how very rare these cases cases of non-citizen voting are, but that a proof of citizenship requirement would have a big impact and could disenfranchise millions of voters.

Speaker 165 So you'd be using a very strict rule to prevent a very small amount of fraud.

Speaker 165 The intention seems likely to be to suppress the vote rather than to try to make our elections filled with greater integrity, of course.

Speaker 201 And you know, people are already asked on voter registration forms to attest under penalty of perjury if they're citizens and eligible to vote, and they can face prison or deportation if they try to vote illegally.

Speaker 207 Okay. Say more.

Speaker 27 No, that's not true.

Speaker 170 Unless they believe they were citizens, then there's no problem.

Speaker 4 Prisoners. In fact, that should have been in the report.

Speaker 107 The report should have been right in there.

Speaker 4 But it wasn't. Incorrect.

Speaker 201 And you know, people are already asked on voter registration forums to attest under penalty of perjury if they're citizens and eligible to vote.

Speaker 201 And they can face prison or deportation if they try to vote illegally.

Speaker 29 Okay.

Speaker 207 Say more about how Rick Hassen told you if this order stands, millions of voters could be disenfranchised.

Speaker 184 Like, how would that happen exactly?

Speaker 209 Right.

Speaker 201 Well, past studies have found that almost one in 10 Americans doesn't have a proof of citizenship document or doesn't have easy access to one.

Speaker 201 And this order is also a bit vague about even which documents would be accepted as proof of citizenship. It doesn't explicitly name birth certificates.

Speaker 201 It does name passports, but only about half of Americans have those. They cost money and take a while to get.

Speaker 201 So this rule would likely upend voter registration drives as well, and other ways that Americans are used to signing up to vote. This would really be a sea change.

Speaker 186 Did I just hear an iPhone go?

Speaker 85 Was that on the clip, or was that you?

Speaker 4 It wasn't me, I don't have an iPhone.

Speaker 201 He upend voter registration drives as well, and other ways that Americans are used to signing up to vote. This would really be a sea change.

Speaker 90 I was gonna say, like, wait a minute, John has an iPhone.

Speaker 134 No,

Speaker 122 hmm.

Speaker 52 Um, It's so annoying that NPR, they just never have anyone on from the other side.

Speaker 135 They are just saying, oh, this is no good.

Speaker 18 Oh, this is bad.

Speaker 43 Oh, he's not going to make it through the

Speaker 4 PBS is worse.

Speaker 35 Never.

Speaker 4 They have one side. It was brought up during the congressional hearings.
I'm surprised you didn't have that clip where they asked this Maher woman,

Speaker 4 you know, you realize that they challenged the reporters.

Speaker 4 You had 87 reporters. They're all registered Democrats.
There's not one Republican that works in the newsroom.

Speaker 38 87%, wasn't it?

Speaker 10 I thought it was 80.

Speaker 28 No, it was 87%.

Speaker 4 It was a total number. Yeah.
87 to nothing. Thanks for saying you're surprised.

Speaker 90 You should email me with that.

Speaker 1 I'm surprised you didn't get that clip.

Speaker 4 I'm surprised you didn't get that clip because that was, I thought, was a key element.

Speaker 10 Oh, surprise.

Speaker 54 Big surprise.

Speaker 34 No Republicans at NPR, huh?

Speaker 4 I know. And she was like, whoa, that's interesting.
And she acted like she didn't know.

Speaker 4 That was the funny part about it.

Speaker 10 What? Whoa?

Speaker 80 Gambling?

Speaker 10 Gambling?

Speaker 4 I can't believe that.

Speaker 4 She's a spook.

Speaker 64 Okay, I want to.

Speaker 38 I have a couple of clips here.

Speaker 43 That means the series don't go to the end.

Speaker 36 You used the word splash earlier.

Speaker 9 I can't remember. I did?

Speaker 85 Yeah, you said make a splash or something.

Speaker 4 Well, I think it had to do with Trump's approach.

Speaker 102 Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 166 Well, because this is a word that we heard about a week ago, and it's back.

Speaker 116 And you could say splash, or you could say splash.

Speaker 84 For the Hague Summit,

Speaker 84 what I hope coming out of the Hague Summit is that it will really be a splash.

Speaker 54 A splash, a big splash.

Speaker 172 This is the splash.

Speaker 34 This is Mark Grutte.

Speaker 170 He is the head of the NATO,

Speaker 85 and this is the big Hague Summit, which he wants to be a splash.

Speaker 84 Projecting the collective NATO power and therefore also American power on the world stage.

Speaker 10 Yes, he's working for us still.

Speaker 84 Of course, defending the Euro Atlantic, but I would even say the world stage because

Speaker 84 it's not extending Article 5 to the Indo-Pacific, but working together as NATO also to make sure that we keep the Indo-Pacific safe.

Speaker 10 And that means spending more, it means producing more.

Speaker 4 What does NATO stand for?

Speaker 93 North American True Treaty.

Speaker 4 North Atlantic.

Speaker 96 North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

Speaker 4 What's that got to do with the Indo-Pacific?

Speaker 4 The North Atlantic is a very specific area.

Speaker 29 It does not make

Speaker 4 the Atlantic Ocean.

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 70 You can make a splash in any ocean.

Speaker 9 So it does not matter where the splash is as long as it's a splash and it shows

Speaker 151 American power.

Speaker 10 And that means spending more, it means producing more.

Speaker 54 Spending more on war stuff.

Speaker 84 It means a fair distribution between the US and other NATO allies.

Speaker 172 Yes, it's fair.

Speaker 48 We need you not fair. You not fair, Europe.

Speaker 84 And as I said, it will be about the lethality, the lethality of NATO.

Speaker 9 Lethality!

Speaker 36 You know, where we kill you with this stuff, man.

Speaker 20 NATO kill your lethality.

Speaker 84 And as I said, it will be about the lethality, the lethality of NATO, showing that, yes, we will never be an offensive organization.

Speaker 5 We are defensive organizations.

Speaker 10 We are defensive.

Speaker 54 We're not making any troubles.

Speaker 4 Tell that to the Libyans.

Speaker 9 We're not making trouble.

Speaker 10 But don't dare.

Speaker 4 Explain to me why they attacked Libya.

Speaker 69 Why do you ask these questions every time

Speaker 47 he's saying that we're defensive?

Speaker 30 Just shut up.

Speaker 84 Lethality of NATO showing that yes, we will never be an offensive organization. We are a defensive organization, but don't dare to attack us.

Speaker 36 Don't you dare to attack us?

Speaker 84 Because you will not see the light of day again.

Speaker 84 And I hope that will be.

Speaker 84 this guy is the biggest warmonger in the universe don't you dare attack us the real outcomes of the hack summit uh a splash a splash showing that reinvigorated alliance uh standing together one for all all for one we are the three three musketeers one for all all for one but but but but but but but but but

Speaker 55 Don't

Speaker 70 this is not we're not doing this because USA wants it.

Speaker 69 This is not not about USA,

Speaker 34 except you don't want to cross USA.

Speaker 84 First of all, by understanding that we do not do this because the Americans want us to do it, but because we need to do it because of Russia.

Speaker 16 We don't do it because the Americans, the Americans.

Speaker 55 Remember, I will change my story at the end of this clip, but it's not because the Americans want it.

Speaker 113 And a threat.

Speaker 84 By the way, by spending more, you will also have a fairer burden sharing with the US, because the US rightly is irritated about the fact that in Europe we have collected the peace dividend and I myself as Prime Minister was part of that and that was wrong.

Speaker 84 Luckily the Netherlands is now spending over 2%.

Speaker 84 Luckily.

Speaker 84 But collectively we have collected the peace dividend. This was not the and rightly the US is irritated.

Speaker 29 So by spending more because of the Russian threat,

Speaker 84 the effect of that is also that you have a fairish burden sharing with the United States.

Speaker 55 But it's not because America wants this.

Speaker 70 Just so you know, it's not about that.

Speaker 84 And there are a few countries not yet at two percent. I would love to say that since I came in on the first of October, things started to change.

Speaker 29 That was not true.

Speaker 84 But there happened something on the twentieth of January in the US.

Speaker 157 And since then, look what happened.

Speaker 55 It's amazing. It's not about America, but America wants for Trump, who became President on January 20th, but it's amazing.

Speaker 84 The Belgians have been saying we want to get to 2% by the summer. Spain now is saying they want to get to 2% this summer.
We know that Portugal, Italy, they all have these debates now.

Speaker 84 And I tell them that, well, now I am calling you to ask you to deliver the 2% by this summer so that collectively we can move considerably north of that 2% because we have to spend much, much more than 2%.

Speaker 55 But this is not about America. This is not because America wants it.

Speaker 84 But now I am calling you. But you might get a

Speaker 29 very

Speaker 84 patient man from Washington on the line if you don't listen to me.

Speaker 84 And I would love to listen into those phone calls, but let's hope they are not necessary.

Speaker 84 And at this moment, I must say that all these non-two percenters are having genuine debates to move to the 2% before summer.

Speaker 108 So, all the non-two percenters, it's not about America, but if you don't step up,

Speaker 119 you might get a call from Washington, and you don't want to get that call.

Speaker 80 That's exactly what he said.

Speaker 4 That's exactly what he said.

Speaker 9 And so now

Speaker 48 we have to make sure that we all understand

Speaker 15 that this is long-term.

Speaker 47 This is not just a Ukraine issue.

Speaker 49 We are never ever.

Speaker 34 I don't care what kind of peace deal is made, it's never going to end.

Speaker 131 It's the result of 12 hours of behind-closed doors talk.

Speaker 162 Oh, I'm sorry, the wrong one.

Speaker 173 Here it is. This is the one.

Speaker 212 Well, there will be no normalization of relations with Russia when the war is over. That will not happen.
This will take decades because there is a total lack of confidence. The threat is still there.

Speaker 212 As I said in my speech, even if the war comes to a conclusion, the Russian threat is still there.

Speaker 192 They are

Speaker 212 building a war economy. They are spending so much money on defence.

Speaker 10 It's a war economy.

Speaker 212 They are producing in three months in ammunition. What the whole of the alliance is is producing in a year.
We are ramping up our ammunition production. Luckily we have to

Speaker 212 so there's no way uh that we can normalise relations with uh Russia after the war. So we hope in many decades from now and post-Putin that

Speaker 212 there might be some, but I mean, I'm not optimistic.

Speaker 57 Post-Putin.

Speaker 52 This is the most outrageous thing you can say.

Speaker 30 Well, even if we have a total truce there in Ukraine,

Speaker 123 nothing's going to normalize with Russia.

Speaker 36 No, post-Putin, post-Putin, post-Putin.

Speaker 10 And

Speaker 91 guess what Zelensky said?

Speaker 81 Ukrainian President Zelensky has claimed that his Russian counterpart Putin will die soon. The remarks came amid widespread speculation about the Russian President's health.

Speaker 81 Russia has strongly rejected all speculations and maintained the Russian leader is fully fit.

Speaker 81 The Ukrainian leader made the bold claim while speaking to French journalists in a televised interview after meeting French President Emmanuel Macron in Paris.

Speaker 81 Zelensky said Putin hopes to remain in power until his death and his ambitions are not limited to Ukraine.

Speaker 81 He added that the Russian leader's death would bring an end to the war between the two nations. There have been continued speculations over Putin's deteriorating health.

Speaker 81 Videos have surfaced of the Russian leader with puffy face and making jerky movements.

Speaker 199 He got puffy face and make it

Speaker 89 he's gonna die.

Speaker 170 He's got puffy face.

Speaker 81 Videos have surfaced of the Russian leader with puffy face and making jerky movements with his limbs. Some videos also showed Putin coughing continuously.

Speaker 81 Just last week, it was suggested that Putin suffered a mini-stroke with video showing his legs shaking uncontrollably. This was during a conference and interview and other times.

Speaker 198 So

Speaker 4 what kind of a dip shit report was that? Well, it seems like he has restless leg syndrome, I guess.

Speaker 90 So he said it in Ukrainian and all the clips.

Speaker 58 France 24, Franz von Catre, does not have any report of this, even though he said it in France.

Speaker 91 So I found that to be somewhat odd.

Speaker 95 But all the reports had, the mix was no good.

Speaker 90 It was Zelensky speaking in Ukrainian, and the English translation is equally loud.

Speaker 42 It's very hard to understand.

Speaker 87 But he says, that's what he says.

Speaker 85 Oh, Putin's going to die soon anyway.

Speaker 69 And then it will all end, which is, in my mind, a veiled threat.

Speaker 94 Oh, he's going to die. Don't worry.

Speaker 39 And if he dies, no matter how he dies, then it's all going to be over.

Speaker 8 How does that work?

Speaker 210 Well, because it's

Speaker 210 the same thing.

Speaker 47 That's why they wanted regime change.

Speaker 39 That's why the CIA said, hey, if you're living in Russia and you want to become a spook, let us know.

Speaker 29 Here's our email address.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 30 they've always, it's only a Putin.

Speaker 49 You never hear

Speaker 58 the Russian citizens are no good.

Speaker 210 Never hear that.

Speaker 29 It's only Putin.

Speaker 162 Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin.

Speaker 121 It's the only baddie they have is Putin.

Speaker 142 And now, oh, the unthinkable has happened.

Speaker 25 We seem to be making headway with a peace deal.

Speaker 171 Oh, no!

Speaker 131 It's the result of 12 hours of behind-closed doors talks in a series of meetings over three days in Riyadh.

Speaker 131 Two statements from the White House outlining separate agreements with Ukraine and Russia to ensure safe navigation in the Black Sea and to implement a ban on attacks by the two countries on each other's energy facilities.

Speaker 213 Both sides agreed that third parties could oversee the truce.

Speaker 131 Separately, the United States also agreed that it would help restore Russia's access to the world market for agricultural and fertilizer exports, an incentive to Moscow blasted by Vladimir Zelensky.

Speaker 214 We believe that this is a weakening of the position and a weakening of sanctions, in our opinion.

Speaker 214 We do not yet know the details of this item and we were not present at this meeting, but this was not on our agenda.

Speaker 131 Nonetheless, Kyiv said it would uphold its end of the agreement while calling for more talks to settle the details.

Speaker 131 The Kremlin, meanwhile, declared that the agreement could only come into force after the lifting of restrictions on its agricultural exports.

Speaker 131 Earlier, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Moscow didn't trust the Ukrainian president to uphold a ceasefire.

Speaker 4 We need clear guarantees. These guarantees can only be the result of an order by Washington to Zelensky.

Speaker 131 The limited truce on energy and sea came about after Vladimir Putin responded to the originally proposed proposed full 30-day ceasefire with a long list of conditions.

Speaker 131 The White House said Tuesday it would continue facilitating talks on both sides in a bid towards achieving a sustainable peace.

Speaker 90 So, not quite the end the war in 24 hours that we were promised.

Speaker 138 I'm sorry, that was

Speaker 10 sarcastic.

Speaker 158 He was being sarcastic.

Speaker 67 So, they're starting very, very slowly.

Speaker 47 We need to make peace profitable again.

Speaker 24 I don't know how to do it.

Speaker 4 Let's bring bring these clips in. This is Trump versus the EU on NPR.

Speaker 136 As we've reported before on this show, U.S. administrations, at least as far back as George W.
Bush's, have been pushing European nations to increase their defense spending. But throughout, the U.S.

Speaker 136 has remained committed to the principle of NATO's Article 5, which says that an attack against one ally is considered as an attack against all allies.

Speaker 136 That commitment appears to have ended with President Trump.

Speaker 182 I think it's common sense, right?

Speaker 182 If they don't pay, I'm not going to defend them. No, I'm not going to defend them.

Speaker 9 It's common sense.

Speaker 106 You don't pay.

Speaker 100 We don't defend you.

Speaker 64 NATO Shmato is no good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they go on with this one.

Speaker 178 Now, for the record, Article 5 of NATO has only ever been invoked once, and it was by the United States. Bronislav Slonchev teaches military and war studies at the University of California, San Diego.

Speaker 190 When Article 5 was invoked after 9-11, the Europeans responded. Canadians, they went and they died.
The British went and they died.

Speaker 190 Everybody responded.

Speaker 146 Wait a minute.

Speaker 47 Didn't the French say that they didn't like it?

Speaker 25 Didn't we have Freedom Fries for that whole reason?

Speaker 10 It was something

Speaker 4 the Freedom Fries derived from. It had something to do with it.

Speaker 123 Yeah, I thought the French were like, nah, nih, no, no, we're not going to do that.

Speaker 119 I'll look it up.

Speaker 136 That includes the French, by the way, who supported the U.S. by sending troops to Afghanistan, 89 of whom died and more than 700 of whom were wounded.

Speaker 198 The Iraq War.

Speaker 136 Public scorn for these sacrifices is just one barb on the Iraqi

Speaker 136 pierced the heart of the European-American relationship and shredded trust between them.

Speaker 178 And it's galvanized European governments to make themselves independent of the U.S. when it comes to their defense.

Speaker 178 But Fenella McGurdy says Europe was already ramping up its defense spending long before Trump came into office.

Speaker 178 Fenella is a senior fellow for defense economics at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.

Speaker 215 In 2024, we saw record defence spending growth already, 11.7% in real terms. And that was itself an increase, so an acceleration from the level of growth we saw in 2023, which reached 5.2%.

Speaker 215 And that was an acceleration from the growth the year before.

Speaker 136 The EU plan announced last week will likely break new records.

Speaker 136 It advocates a massive ramp-up of defence industrial production capacity, and it unlocks a combined $866 billion in military spending over four years. That's about what the U.S.

Speaker 136 spends in a single year on defense. So Branislav says it's not even close to a conversion to a war economy, but it could still be good medicine for Europe.

Speaker 4 You know, there's a funny phenomenon I've noticed.

Speaker 165 It

Speaker 4 goes basically like this.

Speaker 22 Well, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

Speaker 4 But we're going to do that anyway.

Speaker 22 Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

Speaker 4 Well, we're going to do that anyway, so it's not not important. This is the same phenomenon you see with the NPR thing.
And

Speaker 4 there's other examples I've had on the show. They say, well,

Speaker 4 it's only 1%.

Speaker 4 It doesn't, you know, oh, they're taking all our money away, but what's only 1%?

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, it's only 1%, but still.

Speaker 4 Or the park services like, oh, the government is making a great investment, the $10 billion on national parks generates $70 billion.

Speaker 9 But what do you need the $10 for?

Speaker 4 I found this on and on, this idea you complain about something, but then back it off and say, well, it's not important.

Speaker 4 Just doesn't make any sense. Now, further on, this, by the way, this goes on forever.
The third clip is deep into the conversation near the end. I just thought I'd put, drop that in.

Speaker 190 Everything is changing right now. This current war, things have evolved dramatically.
Initially, for instance, everybody was talking artillery and tanks. That was a big thing.

Speaker 190 Then the tanks turned out not to be super effective. And now everything is drones

Speaker 190 and the missiles, right?

Speaker 29 And everything then is.

Speaker 64 Why is he laughing about that?

Speaker 158 It's because they're so cheap.

Speaker 38 It's like drones.

Speaker 190 And now everything is drones

Speaker 190 and the missiles, right?

Speaker 29 And why is that funny?

Speaker 4 That is interesting. I didn't notice this, but you're right.

Speaker 35 Why is it? Is it laughter?

Speaker 35 Why?

Speaker 126 Drones.

Speaker 10 Drone. I don't know.
Drones and

Speaker 4 missiles.

Speaker 190 Everything is drones and the missiles, right? And everything then is related to how you can keep electronic warfare from the interference. Do you have eyes in the sky? So the satellites.

Speaker 190 So these are the kind of capabilities we should not be building to fight.

Speaker 95 In other words, the whole thing is a farce.

Speaker 93 I think that's why he's laughing.

Speaker 17 War has become a farce.

Speaker 85 It's like, it's just, it's like a video game.

Speaker 19 We just push this, we just push that.

Speaker 143 We got eye in the sky, we got drones, we got missiles.

Speaker 89 It's not really like fighting in the trenches anymore.

Speaker 190 The last three wars we should be building to fight the next one.

Speaker 136 Europe can do all sorts of things to move quickly, or at least more quickly than it usually does.

Speaker 136 It can convert old factories to make arms and reconfigure existing ones to become dual-use civilian and military production hubs.

Speaker 136 It can develop supply relationships with other arms providers like South Korea or Israel.

Speaker 178 But whatever it does, it'll take time, Fenela says. And because of that, the U.S.
will likely remain part of the European defense equation for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 100 It takes

Speaker 100 decades for a lot of these programmes.

Speaker 215 So I think that there's some level of dependence will always be there, certainly in things like heavy lift transport and things like that, because those capabilities do take time to develop.

Speaker 215 And I think Europe could get there, but not perhaps in the timeframe it needs. So there's always going to be

Speaker 215 some level of reliance on the US and hopefully some partnerships going forward, which ultimately is good for US defense industry as well.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 87 Herr Schmidt is a smart guy, man.

Speaker 57 I remember we played a clip of him all about drones.

Speaker 115 Drones is the new warfare.

Speaker 47 This is where it's going.

Speaker 16 And there it is.

Speaker 210 There it is. It's all cheap technology

Speaker 216 to blow people up.

Speaker 109 By the way, food has been renaming food in time of war is not new.

Speaker 150 So Freedom Fries, Freedom Fries was indeed

Speaker 67 changed the name of French fries in 2003, France's

Speaker 138 opposition to invading Iraq, which in hindsight, of course, they were correct.

Speaker 157 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So we punished them.

Speaker 27 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 39 We're going to show you Frenchies.

Speaker 90 World War I, Sauerkraut was renamed in America to Liberty Cabbage.

Speaker 44 And Frankfurter's and hot dogs were changed to Liberty Dog.

Speaker 125 Liberty Dog.

Speaker 41 We need an anti-Russian kind of thing.

Speaker 58 But the thing is, Russian.

Speaker 141 Anti-Russian foods.

Speaker 10 No,

Speaker 5 well, vodka.

Speaker 38 We could change vodka.

Speaker 4 Vodka, you could change that to what?

Speaker 10 Freedom juice.

Speaker 17 Freedom juice.

Speaker 10 Freedom juice.

Speaker 121 I'm writing it down.

Speaker 217 Freedom juice. What else?

Speaker 30 Liberty sap.

Speaker 10 I mean, there's all kinds of sap.

Speaker 5 Liberty sap.

Speaker 7 Hey, man, hit me with some liberty sap.

Speaker 17 Neat.

Speaker 173 Okay.

Speaker 7 Nice.

Speaker 127 oh man the people are crazy the world has gone nuts it's gone nuts i tell you the world has gone nuts

Speaker 4 well i do have a couple of

Speaker 106 i get

Speaker 4 these are clips i want to get out of the way

Speaker 4 this is the d e i d o a clips there's only two of them okay

Speaker 39 all right president trump has called for an end to wow you got to warn me you got to warn me about that kind of stuff you can't just launch into shosh, suffering, succotash.

Speaker 64 I'm Scott

Speaker 211 Simon. President Trump has called for an end to what he calls illegal diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts.

Speaker 211 So he has revoked a 1965 executive order that has guided generations of federal contractors on how to comply with non-discrimination laws. As N.

Speaker 211 Pierre's Andrea Shue reports, that's leaving federal contractors who employ one in five workers in the U.S.

Speaker 10 scrambling.

Speaker 218 The end of Lyndon B. Johnson's executive order 11246 has kept Matt Cameradella busy.

Speaker 218 His whole practice at the law firm Jackson Lewis is helping companies that do business with the government comply with that order and with other federal laws.

Speaker 218 Since Trump's return, he's been fielding questions non-stop.

Speaker 219 This is pretty much all I've been doing for the last six weeks.

Speaker 218 The 1965 executive order required most federal contractors to take steps to identify and address barriers to employment for anyone, but especially women and people of color.

Speaker 218 Camardella says his clients took those responsibilities seriously.

Speaker 218 Every year, they'd analyze their hiring and pay practices to try to figure out, for example, if women were getting paid less than men.

Speaker 218 They'd plan out how to recruit a diverse workforce so that their hires reflected the pool of available workers around them.

Speaker 219 There was real risk in not doing this properly, or at all for that matter.

Speaker 218 But now things have gotten complicated.

Speaker 218 Not only has Trump revoked Johnson's executive order and halted its enforcement, the president has also issued his own executive order requiring contractors to certify that they're not engaging in illegal DEI.

Speaker 27 Yeah, well, you know, it.

Speaker 4 I didn't realize this went back to Lyndon Johnson.

Speaker 113 No, I didn't know that either.

Speaker 137 But it doesn't surprise me, strangely enough.

Speaker 58 But it really ran.

Speaker 44 I mean, the thing that people forget about DEI is it was a part of ESG.

Speaker 58 And the reason why companies all got on board with it is because if you,

Speaker 126 you were, they had a score,

Speaker 42 and it was, I think it was the BlackRock guys, didn't they?

Speaker 119 Didn't they come up with

Speaker 10 some board and board determined?

Speaker 4 Larry Finkelme.

Speaker 96 Yes, the Finkelmeister.

Speaker 38 And they had a score system.

Speaker 90 And depending on your environmental, social, and governance score, you became less or more investable by pension funds mainly.

Speaker 41 That's why everyone got it was a

Speaker 64 real, real evil thing they did.

Speaker 125 Yeah, but they pulled the plug on it finally.

Speaker 141 Oh, yes, they did.

Speaker 4 A court has been a lot of people. Many because the investments were bad.

Speaker 4 The high-scoring ESG guys were a good company.

Speaker 36 Lose your pants.

Speaker 218 A court has blocked that part of Trump's order for now.

Speaker 219 Still, Camerdella says the problem is nobody really understands what illegal illegal DEI means.

Speaker 218 He says nothing about federal anti-discrimination law has changed.

Speaker 218 In fact, he believes there's nothing wrong with a company carrying on with what it had been doing, looking at its pay practices or its hiring or its outreach to ensure it's complying with the law.

Speaker 219 However, there may be a perception that somehow that smacks of illegal DEI.

Speaker 221 I'm very concerned.

Speaker 218 Jenny Yang headed the Labor Department office that enforced the 1965 executive order under President Biden.

Speaker 218 That office investigated employers in all kinds of industries, such as tech, manufacturing, construction.

Speaker 218 In 2020, Princeton University agreed to pay more than a million dollars in back wages and salary adjustments to about 100 female professors after the government found pay disparities.

Speaker 218 The university denied it had discriminated against women, but agreed to look more closely at its pay practices.

Speaker 218 Jenny Yang says the Office of Federal Contractor Compliance Programs, or OFCCP, can claim many successes.

Speaker 221 So in the last decade, OFCCP recovered, for example, over $100 million for women who were victims of discrimination.

Speaker 218 Now, under Trump, that office is expected to be largely dismantled since its primary task is gone. The Labor Department has not confirmed when that's going to happen.

Speaker 218 Trump says ending illegal discrimination will allow people to compete based on merit.

Speaker 123 Speaking of DEI,

Speaker 91 the Canadian Transportation Board released the data from the black box of the

Speaker 86 Delta flight?

Speaker 4 The one that flipped over?

Speaker 64 The one that flipped over.

Speaker 19 And so they have not yet released the cockpit voice recorder, which would be important to hear.

Speaker 96 So

Speaker 109 just on the pilots, so indeed,

Speaker 58 the first officer, the female, the co-pilot, was a

Speaker 63 She had just about the,

Speaker 41 I mean, she graduated from the right academy and it's all within the rules then you don't need 1500 hours but a thousand hours so she racked up another almost 500 she'd flown 56 hours that week and she was piloting which is very normal particularly when you note that the the captain the

Speaker 109 the pilot the the one actually in in control of the entire flight not only

Speaker 25 a very high amount of hours, but a trainer on simulators and real world.

Speaker 63 So that is exactly the scenario you want.

Speaker 87 You want pilots to be flying and learn how to fly and learn all kinds of scenarios when you have an instructor there next to her in this case.

Speaker 85 There was nothing wrong with the aircraft,

Speaker 26 but there were wind gusts, and this was a very hard landing.

Speaker 67 The landing gear is rated to a drop onto the tarmac with a sink rate, I think, 760 feet per minute.

Speaker 95 They hit it at over 1,000.

Speaker 90 So what happened was, as I said, is the and it's so the full weight came down on the right

Speaker 119 rear landing gear.

Speaker 109 It snapped off, and that's why the wing hit the ground, and then they were very fortunate how that all ended up.

Speaker 102 So,

Speaker 109 it's not necessarily a DEI issue.

Speaker 140 There's female pilots out there who yell at me when I say this.

Speaker 109 This could have happened to any pilot, but really the male pilot in command was in charge.

Speaker 90 He should have had his hands on the yoke.

Speaker 29 He should have been following through the whole time.

Speaker 86 So we'll see exactly what was said.

Speaker 124 But I think this could have happened to anybody, but it wasn't good.

Speaker 121 It was clearly human error.

Speaker 68 And that's your update from the air.

Speaker 70 BBC World Service Aviation Update.

Speaker 16 Speaking of

Speaker 17 illegal DEI, there's

Speaker 44 another term that popped up in regards to the GLP-1,

Speaker 63 or as we say,

Speaker 109 I went to my, I got my hair cut in Austin.

Speaker 43 She said,

Speaker 98 what is it?

Speaker 93 What's the name of the compound?

Speaker 154 Gluta.

Speaker 102 Glutamine.

Speaker 4 Glutamine. Glutamine.

Speaker 29 No, it's not glutamine.

Speaker 4 Glutatide.

Speaker 10 Gluty-tuti. Glutiti to

Speaker 91 no, she pronounced it in a French way and it sounded kind of good.

Speaker 143 Oh, semi-glutidais.

Speaker 143 Semeglutidais.

Speaker 124 Because now every single hair salon hands out little flyers, little cards, for the injection nurse, which we learned just a few weeks ago.

Speaker 25 And you get your Botox, you get your lip fillers, and you get your GLP-1, your semi-glutades.

Speaker 4 What kind of a place are you going to?

Speaker 119 Every place has that now.

Speaker 185 By the way. Oh, they don't?

Speaker 30 Yes, yes, all of them.

Speaker 4 All going to some sort of a screwball place, some sort of a place with the upper crust of Dallas or whatever who in Austin.

Speaker 109 Okay, so first of all, it's a women's hair salon mainly.

Speaker 4 Well, that would make sense.

Speaker 29 Although the former New York banker also goes there, I've been going to her for 15 years.

Speaker 67 So when we left Austin, I was not going to give up on my hair relationship.

Speaker 25 But it's good because she is definitely

Speaker 142 libtard adjacent, but she has no problem

Speaker 25 with my views.

Speaker 89 And we always have a really nice conversation.

Speaker 39 And she always, because she has no one to talk to about how crazy people are, no one in her life, not her partner, nobody.

Speaker 4 She can't, she can't just say. Is she a lesbian?

Speaker 173 No, no, she's not a lesbian.

Speaker 68 She's a deadhead, though.

Speaker 67 She goes to Vegas to sit in the sphere three nights in a row when she loves John Mayer.

Speaker 47 But, you know, like she, she has no one in her life who's.

Speaker 4 How old is this woman?

Speaker 135 She is 47, I think, 47.

Speaker 38 47. Yes.

Speaker 86 What does that have to do with anything?

Speaker 4 I just want to know.

Speaker 4 Who would go to Vegas and sit in the sphere for three days unless there were a young stoner?

Speaker 24 Thousands and thousands of people.

Speaker 103 Young stoners.

Speaker 141 Yes.

Speaker 173 And so she, and Vegas is now legal to be stoned everywhere.

Speaker 63 Walk around. So the whole place smells like weed.

Speaker 4 You can drink, though, in the street.

Speaker 139 Yes.

Speaker 89 You can smoke weed on the street, too.

Speaker 96 But now the hotels, the casinos, everything smells of weed.

Speaker 29 Anyway,

Speaker 126 it's horrible. It's nasty.

Speaker 47 To get to the point of the story, so she can't just say, oh, I enjoyed watching Trump on Rogan.

Speaker 126 She can't say that to anybody in her world in Austin.

Speaker 4 Despite the fact that Rogan is in Austin, he's a local.

Speaker 67 Yeah, no, that is not done.

Speaker 52 And she said that she had a client the other day, and she would, you know, and these are just, you know, yeah, maybe, maybe upper crust, I'm not sure, but Austin, white Austin women.

Speaker 122 And

Speaker 41 the topic of Tesla came up and Elon, she's like, yeah, well, you know.

Speaker 119 And her customer said,

Speaker 18 you know, he's a Nazi, right?

Speaker 145 And

Speaker 158 my girl was like,

Speaker 185 no.

Speaker 85 He is a, so these people,

Speaker 54 these are educated people.

Speaker 52 actually believe he is a Nazi because like a literal Nazi a literal not just like a name you call someone no he's a Nazi he is an actual Nazi

Speaker 9 exactly anyway back to the

Speaker 122 it was a fun it's worth the drive trust me um back to this illegal term

Speaker 222 uh when it comes to the semi-glutides listen to this a new report reveals illegal ingredients in knockoff weight loss drugs that are flooding into the United States Shabir Ember Shaftar is the executive director of the Partnership for Safe Medicines and the co-author of this new report.

Speaker 222 He's joining me now live.

Speaker 223 Hello to you.

Speaker 36 So illegal ingredients.

Speaker 46 Now, when you hear that, what is the first thing you think?

Speaker 90 Apparently nothing.

Speaker 20 You walked away.

Speaker 9 You walked away during my report.

Speaker 10 Are you peeing?

Speaker 4 You always forget that I have speakers.

Speaker 85 Do you have something else to do?

Speaker 4 Yeah, the phone was ringing off the hook.

Speaker 36 Well,

Speaker 34 we've been doing this show for over 17 years. Take it off the hook already.

Speaker 4 And I listened to the clip, and the clip was going on and on. And I said, well, this clip is going to go on long enough that I can walk over to the phone and take it off the hook.

Speaker 4 And you can hear it beeping back there.

Speaker 4 And then you come on with a question out of the blue.

Speaker 164 Oh, no.

Speaker 36 I thought we were doing a show, but oh, no, no.

Speaker 109 Okay, did you understand the question?

Speaker 30 Would you like me to restart the clip and do the question again?

Speaker 48 And we can end up with the question.

Speaker 10 I heard the clip.

Speaker 4 I could hear the clip. The question was vague.

Speaker 170 I'll play the clip again because you're not.

Speaker 4 No, it was about what ingredients. No.

Speaker 35 They're illegal.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 104 You said what ingredients were illegal?

Speaker 39 No, I say when someone says an ingredient is illegal, what is the, this is a news report.

Speaker 16 What do you think that means?

Speaker 4 And that what you just said is different than what I just said that you contradicted and said I didn't know what you were talking about?

Speaker 29 Answer the question, go.

Speaker 4 What do I think that

Speaker 4 Mark Levin? And so

Speaker 35 go.

Speaker 4 What do I think it means? It means that something's toxic.

Speaker 169 Yes, that's my point.

Speaker 29 Thank you for answering the question correctly.

Speaker 109 You go on to our second round.

Speaker 223 Of this new report, he's joining me now live. Hello to you.

Speaker 217 Hello, and thank you for covering this critical safety information.

Speaker 52 I'm clearly a PR guy.

Speaker 39 He's not a doctor.

Speaker 37 He's a PR dude.

Speaker 222 Of course, you know, let's start with what you found and what your report reveals when it comes to these illegal weight loss drugs that are coming into the country.

Speaker 9 Now, all of a sudden, the whole thing is illegal.

Speaker 217 So, in our report, we studied shipments of semaglotide and trisepatide, the active ingredients in these very popular weight loss medications that were coming into the country, and found that there were shipments that were declared as being made in factories that the FDA did not even know of, were not registered with the FDA and certainly never inspected.

Speaker 217 And some of them were marked as for compounding, which is a great concern of ours because there's been some issues with compounding these medicines and safety.

Speaker 39 So it's not that they were toxic ingredients.

Speaker 151 They came from labs that the FDA had never heard of.

Speaker 143 So this is a PR move because it's just semaglutide, which is a non-patentable peptide. But, oh,

Speaker 1 they came from labs the FDA has never heard.

Speaker 112 it's illegal, it's illegal.

Speaker 208 Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into the past?

Speaker 28 Oh boy, she really punched that one up.

Speaker 85 Yeah, she punched it up, didn't she?

Speaker 52 I like that.

Speaker 217 Which is a great concern of ours because there's been some issues with compounding these medicines and safety.

Speaker 208 Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into the legal supply?

Speaker 36 It was in her script.

Speaker 39 I think it was italicized in her script.

Speaker 109 Like, and really punch this one up because this guy's paying to be on.

Speaker 208 Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into the legal supply of these drugs, if that makes sense?

Speaker 50 It does make sense.

Speaker 5 We don't actually know enough

Speaker 217 because this FDA does not publish where the shipments went.

Speaker 217 We only know that there were nearly 200 shipments that came in that were made in places that could never have been safe, even if they'd been known to the FDA. One was a J.W.

Speaker 217 Marriott, there was another one at a health fitness club, and another one at a high school in Canada. And none of those could possibly, even believably, be legal and legitimate or safe facilities.

Speaker 91 And then he adds safe.

Speaker 38 Legal or legitimate or safe.

Speaker 133 So the message is, get your brand name drugs, everybody.

Speaker 115 Get them now because all of your Congresspeople have been paid off by them, according to RFK Jr.

Speaker 14 Today, over 100 members of Congress support a bill to fund Ozempic with Medicare at $1,500 a month.

Speaker 14 Most of these members have taken money from the manufacturer of that product, a European company called Novonordis. As everyone knows, once a drug is approved for Medicare, it goes to Medicaid.

Speaker 14 And there is a push to recommend Ozempic for Americans as young as six over a condition, obesity, that is completely preventable and barely even existed 100 years ago.

Speaker 14 Since 74% of Americans are obese, The cost of all of them, if they take their Ozempic prescription, will be $3 trillion a year. This is a drug that has made Novo Nordis the biggest company in Europe.

Speaker 14 It's a Danish company, but the Danish government does not recommend it. It recommends a change in diet to treat obesity and exercise.

Speaker 14 Virtually Novo Nordis' entire value is based upon its projections of what Ozempic is going to sell to Americans.

Speaker 14 For half the price of Ozempic, we could purchase regeneratively raised organic agriculture,

Speaker 14 organic food

Speaker 14 for every American, three meals a day and gym membership for every obese American.

Speaker 14 Why are members of Congress doing the bidding of this Danish company instead of standing up for American farmers and children?

Speaker 14 Because Novo Nordis is one of the largest funders of medical research, the media and politicians and the medical schools all go along with them.

Speaker 57 I like the calculation.

Speaker 90 I think we should give away organic food three meals a day to everybody and a gym membership.

Speaker 29 I'm all for that.

Speaker 16 Put it on Medicare. Here's my Medicare card.

Speaker 9 Give me my beef.

Speaker 69 Talk is cheap, Bobby.

Speaker 38 Get on the stick already.

Speaker 10 This, you know, I think there was.

Speaker 102 Yeah, I mean, actually,

Speaker 4 I'm with you on this. Talk is cheap.
Get on the stick. The main thing is let's get these advertisers off the TV for starters, which he's been threatening to do now.

Speaker 4 He came up in the conversation just recently, but there's still no action.

Speaker 4 Me, of course, won't be too happy about it.

Speaker 100 Why not?

Speaker 4 That's where half their income comes from.

Speaker 42 Oh, the media. I thought you said Mimi.
I'm like, why would Mimi be upset with that?

Speaker 90 I've screaming Mimis in my brain ever since you said it.

Speaker 4 Screaming Mimi is a phrase.

Speaker 29 Yes, I'd never heard it.

Speaker 57 I've learned something.

Speaker 148 There's been a rumor going around, and people like I think Zero Hedge even published it.

Speaker 48 No,

Speaker 5 unusual whales. There you go.

Speaker 43 There's a rumor that he's going to do it.

Speaker 91 He's going to do it. He's going to.

Speaker 22 He's going to do it.

Speaker 4 He's going to do it.

Speaker 91 He's going to do it. He's going to ban big pharma advertising.

Speaker 95 But I think that started with a parody account on

Speaker 113 X,

Speaker 101 which a lot of people say.

Speaker 4 Well, he promised he's going to do it.

Speaker 47 Was it a true promise?

Speaker 28 It's one of the three.

Speaker 137 But let me just...

Speaker 162 Okay. I'll say one.

Speaker 10 What was it?

Speaker 173 Advertising.

Speaker 173 Let's listen to it again.

Speaker 224 I'm not intimidated by the agencies. I know how they work and I know how to change them.
And most of those changes you do not need Congress for.

Speaker 224 The president, President Trump could have done it, had the power to do it himself. And President Biden has the power to do it himself.
And I'll give you an example.

Speaker 65 With a stroke of the pen, you can change back the rule that allows pharmaceutical advertisers to do direct to consumer ads on television.

Speaker 14 That's one of the big problems.

Speaker 224 That's one of the reasons we have this entrenched agency capture, not only of Congress, because they control the airwaves, they control the evening news.

Speaker 224 75% of the revenues for those evening news shows for, you know, Anderson Cooper is coming from Pfizer, another pharmaceutical company.

Speaker 224 So, and those companies are dictating content on those shows and they dictate

Speaker 224 the official narratives.

Speaker 119 And I have another clip here where he talked about it on Rogan.

Speaker 111 Well, you know, ambitions

Speaker 111 have completely subsumed the regulatory function of those agencies. And that has to end.

Speaker 111 You know, one of the things that we need to do, too, is to get rid of pharmaceutical advertising on television. There's only two countries in the world that allow it.
One is New Zealand.

Speaker 111 The other is our country. Everybody who is knowledgeable is against it.

Speaker 111 And it not only

Speaker 111 has compromised public health, we now, we take largely because of that advertising,

Speaker 111 we take three or four times the amount of drugs as Europeans take. And drugs are the number three killer in our country.
Pharmaceutical drugs, the number three killer after cancer and heart attacks.

Speaker 111 They're not making us healthier.

Speaker 111 We spend more on health care.

Speaker 11 $4.3 trillion

Speaker 107 in every country in the world

Speaker 111 in terms of our health outcomes.

Speaker 28 They're insufferable.

Speaker 111 All of these drugs, the pharmaceutical industry is not making us safe.

Speaker 111 And, you know, we changed the rule in 1997. Prior to 1997, like cigarettes and liquor,

Speaker 111 you couldn't advertise on TV. We changed those rules and FDA allowed the pharmaceutical companies to advertise.

Speaker 111 And they not only now have a platform from which they can tell everybody you're sick, you need this, you need that,

Speaker 111 but also

Speaker 111 they are able to dictate content on television. So they can dictate content on the you know on the locals and on YouTube, yeah, of course, yeah.

Speaker 107 Okay,

Speaker 64 well, get to it, Bobby.

Speaker 47 Yeah, we're waiting, yeah, because then we can finally get some big pharma ads on the podcast.

Speaker 10 Oh,

Speaker 58 John, I just got my uh got my Ozempic.

Speaker 108 I'm feeling great, I'm down 8,000 pounds.

Speaker 10 I heard a drug advertised on the radio the other day, uh, like Restora or something.

Speaker 4 it was something they have some more recent ones. I got to start recording some of these because

Speaker 4 they're pushing a lot of drugs onto the TV that I've never heard of. They're all new, and they got the worst side effects.

Speaker 164 Yeah, well,

Speaker 4 sorry, and the worst names. The names are really bad, and the side effects are just off the off, they're wild.

Speaker 91 Let me think what this was called.

Speaker 59 It restores your muscle mass when you're on GLP1

Speaker 38 drugs.

Speaker 125 Wow, it's called

Speaker 28 steroids.

Speaker 10 No, no, no.

Speaker 100 No, it's

Speaker 68 what was it called?

Speaker 86 But I think it was called, it was something like Restora.

Speaker 49 Do you like being thin,

Speaker 61 but your legs are breaking?

Speaker 5 We've got Restora.

Speaker 87 Oh, man, it's so bad.

Speaker 93 And that was kind of my point when I saw the card.

Speaker 19 You know, it's like, yeah, get your Botox, get your lip fillers.

Speaker 4 And they gave you a, a, okay,

Speaker 4 this is like a shaggy dog.

Speaker 28 I should have taken it with me.

Speaker 4 We're back at. You didn't take the card with you?

Speaker 100 No.

Speaker 10 It's got a cute woman.

Speaker 22 Oh, wait a minute.

Speaker 4 You go on and on about how great it is to go to Austin. It's always worth the price of admission.
You give me grief for just even suggesting anything. And then you leave the card.

Speaker 90 I know.

Speaker 148 I feel very bad about that.

Speaker 4 You should.

Speaker 29 Inject here.

Speaker 87 Maybe I can find her.

Speaker 162 Injection nurse, Austin.

Speaker 36 So they put it.

Speaker 4 So there's an injection nurse nurse at your hairdresser.

Speaker 47 Well, she comes in

Speaker 26 and here, 63 nurse injector jobs available in Austin, Texas.

Speaker 64 This is wow.

Speaker 109 $29 to $56 an hour injection nurse jobs in Austin.

Speaker 112 No hiring.

Speaker 29 Wow.

Speaker 119 It's called an aesthetic nurse.

Speaker 4 So they come in and Botox you or give you some GLP-1 in the gut.

Speaker 10 Yep. Well,

Speaker 10 that's the

Speaker 4 shoot you up with steroids or can they do anything else that's worthwhile?

Speaker 151 Well, I think that's the upsell.

Speaker 47 This is the Austin nurse, concierge injection specialist.

Speaker 102 It's concierge. Concierge.

Speaker 10 I love that.

Speaker 102 Here we go.

Speaker 156 The Austin nurse is an experienced injection specialist committed to providing excellence in concierge injection administration and training.

Speaker 49 We provide help with fertility medications, anticoagulants, semaglutides like ozempic, blood glucose, and insulin injectors, and more.

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 31 So she'll come to your house.

Speaker 86 She's got a blog.

Speaker 173 Nice.

Speaker 146 Yeah.

Speaker 186 But this is, this is, this is the thing.

Speaker 133 This is what people are doing.

Speaker 29 You've heard of Botox parties, certainly.

Speaker 2 No?

Speaker 115 Yeah. Women actually talk in MLs.

Speaker 90 How many MLs did you get?

Speaker 68 As in milliliters?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'd be milliliter.

Speaker 185 Yeah.

Speaker 123 How many MLs?

Speaker 60 Oh, I got 10 MLs.

Speaker 49 What do you charge per ML?

Speaker 87 Oh, it's only $79 per ML.

Speaker 103 It's sad.

Speaker 108 All women are fake.

Speaker 42 Not a single one is un-Botoxed.

Speaker 96 I'm just guessing.

Speaker 4 I think there's plenty of un-Botoxed gals out there.

Speaker 125 Yeah.

Speaker 109 What do you think about Pam Bondage?

Speaker 4 Oh, she's definitely got Botox in the forehead. Do you ever see her raise her eyebrows?

Speaker 35 Nope. Ever.

Speaker 10 Nope.

Speaker 9 Even when she said top guy, the eyebrows did not move.

Speaker 27 You're the top guy.

Speaker 10 Top guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in shaking the chain.

Speaker 17 Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, the legendary Mr.

Speaker 69 John C.

Speaker 6 DeMora.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr. Anne Curry, any more ships see Business and Graphic Neighbours than one of the dames and nights out there.

Speaker 197 In the morning to the control room.

Speaker 89 You may not make another four years, John.

Speaker 1 Only 1890 today.

Speaker 4 That's average to me.

Speaker 39 Your numbers are off because ever since you started giving me crap about it, I started tracking it.

Speaker 22 Yeah,

Speaker 4 our last

Speaker 4 is the classic

Speaker 4 24 on Sunday.

Speaker 39 No, the last 100 show average is 1904.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, that's not the number I've ever heard.

Speaker 123 Yeah, but I'm looking at the the numbers, baby.

Speaker 57 I got the numbers.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you got numbers, but they're not the numbers you've been reading for the last 10 years. Yes.

Speaker 4 When you do the numbers, you can go back and listen to the past shows: it's 1,600, 1,700, 1,800, 1,800, 1,800. The number of times you've said 1,900 for a Thursday show is so low.
It's like maybe

Speaker 4 once every few months, but somehow it's the average.

Speaker 1 I call bogus.

Speaker 51 You can call whatever you want.

Speaker 27 Bogus.

Speaker 60 Speaking of

Speaker 27 old shows,

Speaker 27 I have a throwback.

Speaker 90 You want to do

Speaker 85 a special bonus clip?

Speaker 22 Sure.

Speaker 52 And this is, well, and then I have to play this.

Speaker 85 It's two clips.

Speaker 135 I have to play the setup clip first.

Speaker 58 And the setup clip is something that we all probably heard about.

Speaker 205 A year from now, 23andMe will be.

Speaker 205 A year from now, 23andMe will be growing and thriving. Five years from now, 23andMe will be.
Will transform healthcare.

Speaker 222 That was Ann Wojitski, CEO of the genetic testing company 23andMe.

Speaker 132 She told us that back in November, and now there's word that Ann has resigned and 23andMe has filed for bankruptcy protection. Nancy Chin is here with what this means for customers.

Speaker 132 Nancy, when I woke up to this news this morning, I was so sad and disappointed to hear it because I know how hard Ann worked and I know how much she loves this company.

Speaker 225 And there's a lot of customers who have also loved it for a long time, so big surprising news for many. But the DNA.

Speaker 171 No one loved the company

Speaker 10 for a long time.

Speaker 16 I love 23andMe.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I kept getting it.

Speaker 4 I use their services all the time, every couple weeks.

Speaker 49 I love this company. It makes no sense.

Speaker 225 And there's a lot of customers who have also loved it for a long time.

Speaker 80 So big surprising news for many.

Speaker 225 But the DNA testing company 23andMe has been facing serious financial challenges for months now.

Speaker 225 Last fall, it announced major corporate restructuring, and that's when concerns of what could happen to users' data started surfacing.

Speaker 225 On Friday, the Attorney General of California, where 23andMe is headquartered, urged customers to request their information be purged.

Speaker 225 He says they should consider invoking their rights and directing the company to delete their data and destroy samples of their genetic material.

Speaker 225 He said, if 23andMe were involved in a bankruptcy, merger, or sale, personal data may also be sold or transferred.

Speaker 157 Oh, say it ain't so, really?

Speaker 47 Episode 599 of the best podcast in the universe, September 29th, 2013, is when we gave our first of many warnings about this.

Speaker 54 Here's what I want you to be cognizant of.

Speaker 127 When you sign up for 23andMe and you get on your little social network and sharing your little genetic defects, be wary as to who else has that information.

Speaker 169 And at some point in the future, Bill Gates might be going, Well,

Speaker 10 is that you? Yes, that's me.

Speaker 22 What a muddy mic.

Speaker 102 Dangerous.

Speaker 63 Well, it was, to be fair, it was 12 years ago.

Speaker 58 You know, I didn't have the great mic that we soon will be showing everybody.

Speaker 9 You walked right into that one, pal.

Speaker 153 I did.

Speaker 22 Why don't you just throw it?

Speaker 4 Here, let me get a couple more softballs here to toss you.

Speaker 140 How about a book?

Speaker 17 How about a book?

Speaker 95 Or just the website.

Speaker 119 Since we're doing a donation segment, Dvorak.org slash NA is not where you want to go.

Speaker 141 You want to go to.

Speaker 4 You can go there.

Speaker 125 It's got stuff.

Speaker 8 It's got outdated.

Speaker 125 It's got outdated links.

Speaker 117 It's got the PayPal links don't work anymore.

Speaker 52 Come on.

Speaker 4 Okay, I'm fixing that site tomorrow.

Speaker 4 If you don't fix it, Thomas.

Speaker 165 There you go.

Speaker 109 I will stick my finger in the holes.

Speaker 85 If it's not fixed, I'm not doing a show.

Speaker 52 That's it.

Speaker 119 I'm done. I'm boycotting the show.

Speaker 85 If you don't fix the website.

Speaker 151 Thank you, trolls, who are hanging out in the troll room.

Speaker 41 Everyone's writing it down in their own red books.

Speaker 5 Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 92 The trolls are listening at trollroom.io, or perhaps they are even on one of those modern podcast apps, which are quite swanky indeed.

Speaker 10 You can't very swanky.

Speaker 17 People are like, wow, what app is that?

Speaker 113 Oh, that's my modern podcast app, of course.

Speaker 78 Oh, that's beautiful.

Speaker 64 What does it do?

Speaker 9 Well, it alerts me when my favorite shows go live, including on the No Agenda Stream.

Speaker 20 And you can listen to it live in the app.

Speaker 30 What?

Speaker 90 You can do that in that app, in a podcast app?

Speaker 146 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 30 And when my favorite podcasts, when they publish a show, within 90 seconds, I know exactly it's there.

Speaker 51 Boom, I get an alert.

Speaker 152 What?

Speaker 112 I'm on Apple, and sometimes it takes hours.

Speaker 34 That's why you want to go to podcastapps.com, everybody.

Speaker 138 It's enhancements brought to you by the friendly folks at podcastindex.org.

Speaker 25 Value for value is how we continue to somehow muddle through

Speaker 41 our last four years or our four more years, I should say.

Speaker 169 People send me links like, you said that when Trump won the first time.

Speaker 4 That's correct.

Speaker 171 But now we mean it for real.

Speaker 134 Four more years.

Speaker 90 And

Speaker 37 so we

Speaker 4 don't have ads, although people have found some interesting loopholes in our system, which is they have loopholes indeed.

Speaker 30 Some really good loopholes.

Speaker 49 People are like, hey, man, I'm making the killing of my business through that no agenda show.

Speaker 17 It's fantastic. Here's what you do.

Speaker 9 You become an executive producer.

Speaker 63 Or, sadly, cheap associate executive producers.

Speaker 4 The cheap associate. Yeah.

Speaker 35 Yeah.

Speaker 119 The loophole is phenomenal.

Speaker 102 I love it.

Speaker 96 And now the way you can support the show is multi-pronged.

Speaker 148 You can support us with your time, your talent, or your treasure.

Speaker 25 And time and talent, you know, people send clip ideas.

Speaker 109 It always helps when they send time codes.

Speaker 63 That's really highly appreciated.

Speaker 25 People do organized meetups.

Speaker 148 They do jingles and show mixes.

Speaker 19 There's tons of stuff that people do.

Speaker 125 Run servers for us everywhere.

Speaker 92 Servers are running everywhere, like noagendaartgenerator.com, which is where you can upload.

Speaker 86 And

Speaker 148 it's had its ups and downs throughout the years, but

Speaker 94 generally, I mean, I don't know if they maintain it, but

Speaker 166 I'd say it's a good deal for us.

Speaker 91 We don't have to hire someone to maintain it.

Speaker 141 And then we have the artists themselves who create this artwork for us.

Speaker 39 And then we use that to draw attention to the show.

Speaker 63 It makes us look fresh every single time.

Speaker 135 And we looked funky fresh with the artwork for episode 1749.

Speaker 148 We titled that show Gynocracy, or as I like to say, gynecracy.

Speaker 48 And it was Sir Shug, aka Fo Diddley, who came in with the winning piece that we picked, The Flexibilize

Speaker 143 live from Ursula Studios, which was it was a poppy piece.

Speaker 9 You know,

Speaker 87 it was definitely related to the show, and it popped all kinds of boys and girls dancing.

Speaker 4 You know, there were flexibilities. Did you get the note from the woman who used to be a jazzer-size person and sent the original art?

Speaker 157 No.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. One of our one of our producers had something something to do with the original art, which was Jazzer size.

Speaker 64 Really?

Speaker 4 It had the same dancers, only they were kind of different, slightly different. No way.
And the same basic logo. This is where it came from.

Speaker 64 Oh, so it's a rip-off.

Speaker 10 It's a rip-off.

Speaker 4 She thought it was a compliment.

Speaker 91 Well, of course it's a compliment.

Speaker 126 That's so cool.

Speaker 4 But it was a rip-off. But I'm wondering whether Sir Shug

Speaker 4 developed it by hand. Because to do a rip-off, you have to have the original and you develop a kind of a copy of it or AI actually copied it.

Speaker 100 Could be, could be.

Speaker 63 I got an AI story for you for later.

Speaker 103 Yeah, I saw you have AI.

Speaker 10 I have a couple AI clips. Good.

Speaker 130 You do your clips.

Speaker 38 I'll bring the story.

Speaker 4 I don't know about that.

Speaker 10 I do.

Speaker 85 I mean, I'm in control. Who's driving?

Speaker 26 You're like the DEI hire on the show.

Speaker 4 I'm the shotgun.

Speaker 30 You're the DEI hire.

Speaker 4 I'm the DEI guy. Shut up.

Speaker 4 No laughing.

Speaker 94 No laughing.

Speaker 26 So we appreciate that.

Speaker 29 Of course, we use many of the pieces of art for our chapter artwork, which Dreb Scott diligently does for every single show.

Speaker 148 We appreciate that very much.

Speaker 172 We looked at a couple other things.

Speaker 63 Creepy was Helmet Hair by Blue Acorn, which was Ursula.

Speaker 96 That was an AI job, but that was pretty interesting how it turned out.

Speaker 177 Yes, everybody liked to harangue me about, oh, The Hague is the new Dutch capital.

Speaker 151 It's not Amsterdam.

Speaker 9 That's actually contentious.

Speaker 180 We talked about it after the show.

Speaker 133 It's not a pure capital.

Speaker 103 It was like a...

Speaker 4 No, it turns out that there's two capitals of Holland. Yes.

Speaker 4 And it turns out, and then we also did a little research after the show. And it turns out that there's about 10 countries

Speaker 4 that have dual capitals.

Speaker 41 Because the technical description of a capital is where the government has its seat.

Speaker 93 That was the term. It was a strange term.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we looked at it. I think we used AI to do the research.

Speaker 153 Really? Well, then I don't trust you.

Speaker 4 You used Chat GPT. What are you talking about? You're always doing that.

Speaker 44 That's exactly what I want to talk about when you play your AI clips.

Speaker 89 There was a term.

Speaker 67 I can't remember what the term was.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 35 So

Speaker 10 Holland has two capital.

Speaker 148 The origin of this capital confusion goes back to the Middle Ages back then.

Speaker 91 The Hague was the seat of the government for the country of Holland and the courts of Holland.

Speaker 133 Amsterdam was just your ordinary

Speaker 67 up-and-coming center of trade.

Speaker 29 Anyway, fine.

Speaker 149 All right. Fine, everybody.

Speaker 121 Do funny artwork.

Speaker 67 I'm good.

Speaker 210 I'll say I was wrong.

Speaker 64 I'll say I was wrong. We were wrong.

Speaker 191 Technically, the capital is where the government seats.

Speaker 78 And what else did we have? There was

Speaker 137 deep fake nudes.

Speaker 119 No, there was e-meter girls.

Speaker 151 Got a nice note. We got a couple of notes from Scientologists.

Speaker 155 Hello, Scientologists.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we have a number of Scientologists that were chuckling about our e-mayer.

Speaker 55 Well, even the producer who gave us

Speaker 78 the E-meters, he still listens.

Speaker 158 I love that.

Speaker 102 Yeah, I think that's funny.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the thing is, it turns out,

Speaker 4 we didn't mention this necessarily, but I forgot about it.

Speaker 4 He says his dad was a big shot in Scientology, and he had a bunch of these e-meters, and he couldn't sell them, get rid of them after his dad died.

Speaker 4 Because if you try to sell them on eBay, the Scientology community goes after you and makes life miserable. Oh, no.
They knock on your door and say, hey,

Speaker 151 don't give away our data.

Speaker 4 So the guy says, hell with it. I'll just send him to these two bozos.
And so he sends us a couple of these e-meters.

Speaker 10 And we still have them.

Speaker 4 We still have them.

Speaker 102 Within reach.

Speaker 4 I'm using them all the time.

Speaker 4 So I got another note from another Scientologist who made the point. He said, you should charge the E-meter

Speaker 4 to make the battery last longer because we probably haven't charged the thing ever.

Speaker 185 No, I have not.

Speaker 63 Oh, I should do that.

Speaker 109 Also, I got another note from,

Speaker 63 and I shouldn't say he's a Scientologist, but people who are members of the Church of Scientology

Speaker 4 and said. So that would be a Scientologist.

Speaker 30 Yeah, well,

Speaker 96 that's not how he introduced himself.

Speaker 37 And he said, you have a lot of,

Speaker 133 okay, I'll use your term.

Speaker 63 You have a lot of Scientologists listening to the show because there's a big crossover with you guys

Speaker 15 between

Speaker 148 your stance on vaccines, et cetera, other pharmaceutical products,

Speaker 87 then it was something else.

Speaker 43 Your desire to have tax-free income, I think, was the other thing.

Speaker 173 I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 It was some

Speaker 2 something like that. It makes sense.

Speaker 158 So, hello. Hello, Scientologists.

Speaker 93 You're welcome.

Speaker 95 Everybody's welcome here.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 41 Yeah. We've never had a problem with anybody.

Speaker 4 And we got some free e-meters.

Speaker 57 Hey, it beats

Speaker 24 a punch in the head.

Speaker 4 Free E-meters.

Speaker 4 Like I said to the guy, I got the E-meter, but we didn't get the pretty girl with it. So

Speaker 86 that's what it was.

Speaker 20 So thank you very much, Sir Shog, aka Fo Diddley.

Speaker 44 We appreciate your support of the show, as always.

Speaker 180 And that brings us to our executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 91 We'd like to thank them separately, just like Hollywood does.

Speaker 25 You know,

Speaker 150 I watched another movie.

Speaker 158 I watched Flight Risk, which is Mark Wahlberg.

Speaker 4 Is this another movie you watch without Tina because she doesn't watch these kinds of movies. No,

Speaker 101 the last Wahlberg movie you watched was pretty dumb.

Speaker 149 So I think if I had suggested another one, she might not have gone for it.

Speaker 140 But it was really good.

Speaker 58 And a lot of it

Speaker 148 took place in a Cessna airplane.

Speaker 177 And at the end, boom, credits.

Speaker 133 Executive producer and director, Mel Gibson.

Speaker 10 Like, wow.

Speaker 4 He's running for governor.

Speaker 95 Of what state?

Speaker 64 California. Really?

Speaker 64 Yep.

Speaker 4 Wow. That would be.

Speaker 4 I think he might be able to even get the job. Wow.

Speaker 107 Wow.

Speaker 4 Because if Kamala Harris runs, there's going to be a backlash against her because nobody likes her.

Speaker 125 No.

Speaker 4 And people always like to, you know, let's give him a shot. What's it going to, how bad can it be?

Speaker 151 It's Mel.

Speaker 119 He's pretty successful with movies.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he knows what he's doing.

Speaker 26 So we thank everybody $50 and above, so you can keep track at home if

Speaker 135 you feel called to do that.

Speaker 26 But we really just like to thank people

Speaker 216 and

Speaker 155 share with you the support that they have given because it does keep the show going for four more years.

Speaker 40 $200 or above, you get a credit like Hollywood, an associate executive producer credit, and that is good for your lifetime.

Speaker 149 You can use it anywhere, put it anywhere.

Speaker 135 If anyone questions that, we will vouch for you.

Speaker 148 You can use it on your resume, as an example.

Speaker 27 $300 and above, we will give you an executive producer credit.

Speaker 59 And in both cases, we'll read your note if it's within reason and not too long.

Speaker 58 Oh, we've got a long one here today, I see.

Speaker 19 And that gives you the same credit, which you can then use on imdb.com.

Speaker 30 So we'll start off with our first and

Speaker 69 top guy, top

Speaker 118 executive producer of episode 1750, the Archduke of Central Florida.

Speaker 125 I don't remember his actual pre-Duke name, but he lives in Winter Park, Florida.

Speaker 39 And he came in with, actually, he gets a double credit for this because he also gets a show number donation, 1750.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 58 Which he says here for here heretofore known as the Blofeld donation from Archduke of Central Florida.

Speaker 27 Keep up the Queen Ursula clips.

Speaker 20 Very informative.

Speaker 216 Five more years, he says.

Speaker 68 Oh, he's he's skimping five more years.

Speaker 4 Five more years. Well, if we get more people that donated $17.50 every show, we'd probably do five more years.

Speaker 119 Explain the Blofeld donation because I don't.

Speaker 4 I forgot. I don't know.
I don't remember.

Speaker 30 What is Blofeld?

Speaker 4 Blofeld was one of the evil characters in the early James Bond movies. Oh, okay.

Speaker 121 Well, now it's Stavros Blofeld.

Speaker 28 He always used to have

Speaker 4 a big white cat, and he would wear this gray outfit, and he had a scar on his face, and he was bald, and he was nasty.

Speaker 149 Thank you very much, Archduke of Central Florida.

Speaker 148 And yes, we will now call this the Blofeld donation, 1750.

Speaker 22 Clifford

Speaker 4 Remersma. I would say it's Reimersma.

Speaker 4 Reamersma.

Speaker 4 Reamersma in Milwaukee,

Speaker 4 Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 $350.93.

Speaker 4 Just bought a pair of work boots for $330.

Speaker 4 Wow. I figure it's time to invest in another

Speaker 4 luxury that helps me through the workday.

Speaker 4 That's the show. The No Agenda Show.
That's 333.33 plus fees. Wow.
Two-thirds to the knighthood.

Speaker 4 Two-thirds of the way to the knighthood. Could I get a relationship karma, please?

Speaker 165 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 142 He totally understands the system.

Speaker 227 You've got karma.

Speaker 170 That's exactly how you should see the show.

Speaker 142 He got something out of it and he put it right back in.

Speaker 159 That's the value from value model right there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he looked at his shoes. He said, these are 300 bucks.
They're going to protect, but he probably has steel toes.

Speaker 4 And he said,

Speaker 4 well, you know, this is protecting my brain.

Speaker 27 I have one rule rule

Speaker 92 which Tina and I adhere to.

Speaker 25 If you're using anything on a daily basis, you should might as well get a good one.

Speaker 155 So if it's a mattress, if it's a pillow, if it's your cutting board, if it's

Speaker 150 things that you use every single day, and if you're listening to a podcast twice a week for a total of six over six hours, you might as well make sure it continues.

Speaker 68 You want it to be the best podcast in the universe, so you need to support us.

Speaker 29 That's my logic.

Speaker 4 I think that's a good one.

Speaker 199 333.33 from Meister Chit Chat in Russellville, Arkansas.

Speaker 42 And he has a very complicated note.

Speaker 169 Good evening or morning salutations, amazing gentlemen.

Speaker 160 Okay.

Speaker 25 More brevity is appreciated.

Speaker 199 Thank you for your service.

Speaker 41 I'd like that. It's courage.

Speaker 172 I'd like to clarify my previous donation was a 333.33 switcheroo with fees included.

Speaker 171 So is this one.

Speaker 69 Miss Eclectic Chit Chat of Harmony Homestead.

Speaker 36 This donation is also a switcheroo for the same Miss Chit Chat.

Speaker 141 Okay, so let me put Mrs. Chitch Chat.

Speaker 38 Mrs.

Speaker 173 Chitchat. Let me put in Mrs.
Chitchat.

Speaker 185 There we go.

Speaker 133 I must make it clear that we engage corporately without prejudice for our firstborn to be named after you without prejudice.

Speaker 160 Our son will be named Gabriel Nolan of God, a hero or champion.

Speaker 108 Thanks to you, and four more years, he will be instrumental in bringing more souls to the Creator during this time of turmoil.

Speaker 10 Is your name Gabriel?

Speaker 64 I guess

Speaker 30 Adam Gabriel Curry.

Speaker 9 Thank you, both, and all of Noah General.

Speaker 149 We can begin the the next phase of our parentage after four years of

Speaker 61 IVF effort.

Speaker 10 Oh, wow. All right.

Speaker 78 Expensive and tedious. Yes.

Speaker 47 No success until we underwent a dedouching.

Speaker 11 A dedouching did it.

Speaker 108 And lupron endometriosis treatment.

Speaker 25 I think it was the dedouching.

Speaker 29 My wife is now over one-third of motherhood and two-thirds of damehood.

Speaker 17 If you're an Alaskan needing dental work, check out mustachiods.com.

Speaker 4 Mustachiods.com.

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Speaker 22 We make your teeth.

Speaker 4 I'm guessing he's got a mustache.

Speaker 17 We make your teeth look good.

Speaker 30 Needing psychiatric help, RPI, or looking for off-grid or gardening help?

Speaker 199 Harmony Homestead on Facebook or Snapchat.

Speaker 121 Wow, that is a broad spectrum of services.

Speaker 39 Sorry for the obtuse note.

Speaker 169 Use ITM on the phone for a stackable 10% discount on total treatment plan at Atkins Dental Clinic.

Speaker 160 Woo, no jingles, no karma.

Speaker 159 Everything above was long enough, he says.

Speaker 39 Yes, Sir Meister Chit Chat of Harmony hosted Homestead.

Speaker 29 Thank you.

Speaker 148 Thank you, Sir Meister Chit-Chat.

Speaker 167 Great note.

Speaker 180 Very entertaining.

Speaker 4 Well, let's

Speaker 4 contrast that with Chap Williams in Edmond, Oklahoma, who came with 333.33. That was a check with no note.
And so he gets a double-up karma.

Speaker 199 And here we go. Double up for the karmas.

Speaker 227 You've got

Speaker 227 double up

Speaker 31 karma.

Speaker 46 And 333 from Sir Tanley.

Speaker 30 Sir Tanley, Port Orange, Florida.

Speaker 148 ITM Gen, so much to say, so little time, so I'll keep it short.

Speaker 98 Keep up the good work, boys.

Speaker 169 You've kept me listening twice a week since 2016.

Speaker 49 And this donation is a switcheroo for my wife, Stormy.

Speaker 67 All right, Switcheroo has been engaged.

Speaker 99 Happy 17 anniversary, babe.

Speaker 160 You are my ride or die.

Speaker 149 A family that no agendas together stays together.

Speaker 9 And the weather app we've been working on has finally hit the Apple App Store.

Speaker 39 You want to try your hand at predicting the weather in your hometown?

Speaker 9 Then install Weather champs.

Speaker 171 Win forecast coins.

Speaker 169 Enter sweepstakes and be crowned the weather champ.

Speaker 172 Use code weather friend for 50% off an annual subscription.

Speaker 151 Coming to Android in the next few weeks.

Speaker 29 No jingles, no karma.

Speaker 58 Sir Tanley, the weather champ.

Speaker 30 Oh, well, when it's on Android, let me know.

Speaker 86 I'll try it out.

Speaker 58 The weather champ.

Speaker 29 And I can win forecast coins, John.

Speaker 4 Yeah, good.

Speaker 4 You can use them. Eli the coffee guy's up.
He's in Bensonville, Illinois, $23.20.

Speaker 4 And he says, Well, news agency

Speaker 4 railed against the administration for deporting an innocent pro-Palestine activist for exercising his free speech. You guys called out

Speaker 4 Mahmoud Khalil for being a spook.

Speaker 4 That's a type of deconstruction that makes no agenda truly the best podcast in the universe. Thank you for the insight.
Jingle, spot the spook. George Clooney's the spy.

Speaker 4 For producers, by the way, spooks or otherwise, in need of great coffee, visit gigawattcoffee roasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off your order.

Speaker 38 Stay caffeinated.

Speaker 4 Eli the Coffee Guy.

Speaker 202 Spot the spook.

Speaker 217 Spot the spook.

Speaker 62 Everybody wants to spot the spook.

Speaker 62 George Clooney, George Clooney, George Clooney is a spy.

Speaker 121 Yeah, man, I really get them today, don't I?

Speaker 160 Day Mary Moon, Prairieville, Louisiana.

Speaker 4 Everyone, this is the best day ever.

Speaker 25 $200 associate executive producership for her.

Speaker 36 And it's a switcheroo for my hubby, Sir Juklaw.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 138 All right, Sir Juklaw.

Speaker 10 All right, so we'll put Sir Juklaw in there.

Speaker 80 Perfect.

Speaker 160 Welp, good job on the No Agenda artwork you picked on Sunday.

Speaker 101 Oh, we were just talking about it.

Speaker 39 It prompted my donation.

Speaker 69 See, this is why Time Talent Treasure works.

Speaker 118 It works

Speaker 85 in so many different ways, sometimes unexpected.

Speaker 39 I'm not sure if you realize it or not.

Speaker 151 Possibly it will be discussed on Thursday, but the graphic is clearly a knockoff of, oh, this is the note, of the original Jazzer size artwork.

Speaker 68 Jazzer size.

Speaker 52 I'm sending you the original so you can compare the similarities.

Speaker 117 I'm not mad about the similarities, quite the contrary.

Speaker 151 I have been a jazzer size instructor for 15 years, and I own two jazzer size studios in South Louisiana.

Speaker 30 It is the best workout program around.

Speaker 152 Ladies of Noah Jen the Nation, head over to your local jazzer size studio.

Speaker 30 We have 8,000 locations.

Speaker 117 What?

Speaker 46 I need to get the Fredericksburg franchise license.

Speaker 39 We have 8,000 locations and we're in nearly every state in over 110 countries to experience the original dance fitness workout.

Speaker 120 I've been making people dance, sweat, and smile for over 55 years.

Speaker 172 By the way, guys, you too can take our classes.

Speaker 9 We don't discriminate.

Speaker 151 We're not the ginocracy.

Speaker 149 Thanks, John and Adam, and the artists who donated their time and talent for making my morning a little sunnier when I saw the artwork pop up.

Speaker 226 That's from Dame Mary Moon.

Speaker 100 How about that?

Speaker 64 There it is.

Speaker 148 So that's why I never saw the note because I didn't get it.

Speaker 162 That's what happened there.

Speaker 4 It's amazing the people that listen to this show

Speaker 4 and produce it.

Speaker 86 Yeah, we do.

Speaker 4 We do have including Linda Lupatkins in Lakewood, Colorado.

Speaker 4 And she once came with 200 bucks and asks for jobs karma and says, for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.

Speaker 4 That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K.
And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs, and writer of resumes.

Speaker 228 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Speaker 202 You've got karma.

Speaker 77 And there it is again.

Speaker 10 Another long note with a switcheroo.

Speaker 38 This is crazy.

Speaker 4 This is crazy.

Speaker 39 Switcheroo.

Speaker 226 This is from Caitlin Meyer of Los Angeles, California.

Speaker 191 And switcheroo for Lady Linda of Los Angeles.

Speaker 17 Mira Kebura, happy birthday.

Speaker 94 And that is today.

Speaker 158 So on the list.

Speaker 39 Your Cara de Chucho face of a brother and his wife are putting in the big one for you, so don't ever say we did nothing for you.

Speaker 176 We're taking a note from Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes, and Eli the coffee guy, and giving you a big shout-out in front of the best podcast listeners in the universe.

Speaker 167 That's interesting.

Speaker 135 Now we have people who use a service or a product advertising it.

Speaker 15 This is great.

Speaker 4 That's a double switcheroo.

Speaker 94 And Caitlin Meyer asks, have you got money on your mind?

Speaker 157 Why?

Speaker 160 Let Lady Linda get your money to work for you.

Speaker 167 If you peruse Instagram for your next overseas adventure, flip those magazines in the waiting room and see for yourself on that tranquil shoreline and get your finances in order.

Speaker 52 The money you have today can start working to send you there tomorrow.

Speaker 107 Contact Linda.

Speaker 17 She cares and she's good.

Speaker 177 That's linda.gata at nm.com.

Speaker 13 Linda.gaita, g-a-e-t-a at n-m.com.

Speaker 64 Wow.

Speaker 38 I might have to withdraw the money from Horowitz and give it to Linda because she cares and she's good.

Speaker 52 We request jobs, Karma, for the birthday girl. Here's to another great trip around the sun.

Speaker 228 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Speaker 6 Wow.

Speaker 143 That was pretty amazing.

Speaker 180 Very, very interesting executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 149 Thank you so much for supporting the No Agenda Show episode 1750.

Speaker 41 We appreciate that.

Speaker 27 And as of Sunday, you'll be able to go to know

Speaker 148 Dvorak.org slash an A and set up your recurring donation.

Speaker 39 But just in case, remember this NoAgendadonations.com, that's where you can support us.

Speaker 101 We'll be thanking people who support us. $50 and above in our second segment.

Speaker 149 And yes, you can do a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency. It's up to you.

Speaker 160 You determine the value.

Speaker 138 Make the number matter to you because we love numerology here on the best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 70 Noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 12 Thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 22 Our formula is this:

Speaker 189 We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

Speaker 154 All right, two little quick fun fun clips, two little quick fun clips, quickies, little quickies, little quickies.

Speaker 17 Sure. A little AOC gaff.

Speaker 4 And this isn't just about Republicans.

Speaker 201 We need a Democratic Party that fights harder for us to.

Speaker 61 Your future president, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 185 AOC.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this is what she's thinking. That's what's on her mind.

Speaker 39 And then this one from Jasmine Crockett.

Speaker 226 Everyone's losing their mind over this.

Speaker 17 I think this is way overblown.

Speaker 229 A congresswoman from North Texas is causing controversy over recent comments she made about Governor Abbott.

Speaker 220 Fox's Stephen Dial explains: Well this Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is being called out by other elected officials for her comments last Saturday at a human rights campaign event.

Speaker 50 Y'all know we got Governor High Wheels down there.

Speaker 5 Come on now.

Speaker 5 And the only thing hot about him is that he is a hot mess.

Speaker 34 Referring to Governor Greg Abbott as Hot Wheels.

Speaker 220 Abbott was partially paralyzed when a tree fell on him decades ago.

Speaker 78 I think this is stupid.

Speaker 171 It's actually a cool name.

Speaker 16 I think Governor Hot Wheels is pretty funny.

Speaker 9 Everybody, oh, outrage. Oh, I can't believe she said that she made fun of the man in the wheelchair.

Speaker 17 How hypocritical is that?

Speaker 88 Like when Trump makes fun of people's ears and eyes and height and their whatever, oh, it's great.

Speaker 106 This is actually, you know, I have to say,

Speaker 151 as a nickname, I think it's pretty cool.

Speaker 16 I'm going to call him Governor Hot Wheels from now on.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 186 What did you think?

Speaker 10 Did you think anything of this at all?

Speaker 88 I know you asked me.

Speaker 4 No, I know everybody talked about this. I thought it was, I think you're right.
It was overblown.

Speaker 4 I do

Speaker 4 think it was kind of at the she gave it at a human rights convention which i think that was the wrong audience well there's that i mean it was like you know ableist kind of thing so wow

Speaker 4 you are the dei hire you use the term ableist yeah i'm just because that's the nature of when she says it i think the venue was wrong and so she wasn't thinking but she's a dummy so who cares what she says it was it still was funny

Speaker 4 it is funny and i think high wheels is a good nickname for the guy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I never see him moving very fast on that thing.

Speaker 167 Well, that's kind of the funny part.

Speaker 10 It's like this is what you do.

Speaker 109 You give people nicknames based upon their physical appearance.

Speaker 9 And we do this all the time on the show.

Speaker 4 Yes, we do it all the time.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 4 But we're not in front of a human rights convention.

Speaker 151 We do it. Well, we are in front of Scientologists.

Speaker 146 I mean, yeah, it's true.

Speaker 4 And we give the Scientologists.

Speaker 4 We haven't really given anyone grief.

Speaker 94 No. Do they really donate the Scientologists or they don't they do they

Speaker 10 you know it's

Speaker 28 a question

Speaker 4 we'll have to take a look I'll have to go back to this research let's do a little couple I got a couple of clips which got to have a kind of a little gotcha in here that I think is worth talking about this is about religious quitting this is on in they did a special and people that are they they're brought up in a religion then they quit.

Speaker 10 Oh, no.

Speaker 45 People around the world are switching religions or leaving religion altogether.

Speaker 45 A new study from Pew Research finds that large portions of adults no longer practice the faith in which they were raised.

Speaker 45 Pew surveyed nearly 80,000 people in 36 countries, NPR religion correspondent Jason DeRose reports.

Speaker 202 Switching is especially common in East Asia, Europe, and the Americas. Kirsten Lesage is the study's lead author.

Speaker 230 Out of the 36 countries that we surveyed in, the three countries with the highest rates of religious switching are South Korea, Spain, and Canada.

Speaker 202 In South Korea, Pew found that 50% 50% of respondents had changed religions. In Spain, 40% said they'd left their childhood faith.
In Canada, the number is 38%.

Speaker 202 By comparison, in the U.S., 28% switched. Lesage says two religions were most affected.

Speaker 209 The religious groups that have had the largest losses from religious switching are Christianity and Buddhism.

Speaker 202 Lesage says the change is particularly acute in parts of Europe.

Speaker 209 For example, Italy has the highest ratio of people leaving to people joining Christianity.

Speaker 202 For every one person who becomes Christian, about 28 Italians are leaving the religion.

Speaker 202 The biggest gains were among those who have no religious affiliation, which is a group that includes atheists, agnostics, and those who describe themselves as nothing in particular.

Speaker 230 So it's not the case that people are necessarily switching from one religion to the next. For example, there's not a lot of switching from Christianity into Islam.

Speaker 202 Rather, Lesage says, most switching is people leaving religion altogether.

Speaker 15 Yeah, well, this is an interesting choice of words, but maybe I should hold my

Speaker 148 white Christian nationalist perspective until the second clip.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I would say, because

Speaker 4 I have the sense that they're trying to slam the Christians here in some funny way. And I think the second clip has an

Speaker 4 has an exemplification of that. And it's a tricky one.
And we'll listen to it, and then I'll ask you a question.

Speaker 64 Ooh, a question.

Speaker 109 Well, let me go and walk away from the microphone, so at least we're fair.

Speaker 202 Meanwhile, specific religions in some countries appear to be stickier than others.

Speaker 202 Pew found very small percentages of the overall adult population have left or joined Islam in most of the countries surveyed. And nearly all people who were raised.

Speaker 10 Joined or left Islam?

Speaker 4 Hold on, sorry. Very few people leave Islam.

Speaker 202 Pew found very small percentages of the overall adult population have left or joined Islam in most of the countries surveyed, and nearly all people who were raised Hindu in India and Bangladesh still identify as Hindu today.

Speaker 202 Judaism's retention rate is also high. In Israel, 100% of people Pew surveyed who were raised Jewish still identify religiously as Jewish.

Speaker 202 In the U.S., 76% of those raised Jewish still identify that way today,

Speaker 202 with most American Jews who've left the faith now identifying as unaffiliated. Pew also found that 19% of U.S.
adults raised as Christian now identify as religiously unaffiliated.

Speaker 202 Jason DeRose, NPR News.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 130 Interesting report from Pew.

Speaker 4 So I'm going to ask you the question. Okay.

Speaker 4 Why do you think more Christians have become unaffiliated

Speaker 4 in the United States than Jews?

Speaker 58 Oh, I can answer the first question, but the second one, well,

Speaker 4 you are a Jew.

Speaker 29 This is not

Speaker 68 just a religion.

Speaker 41 They consider themselves to be part of a population group and also not white.

Speaker 10 Well,

Speaker 162 wrong.

Speaker 109 According to Pew, what did Pugh say?

Speaker 4 Pugh said that more Jews than Christians have left the faith in the United States.

Speaker 4 But you heard it differently, didn't you?

Speaker 22 Sure did.

Speaker 4 The fact that you could answer that, try to answer a question that was a misleading question based on what you thought you heard.

Speaker 170 Wow. Do I need to listen to that again to hear it correctly?

Speaker 4 I'll explain what they did, then you can listen again. That was a good question.
What they did was they did the old switch

Speaker 4 where they gave you the wrong side of the equation, and you had to do the math in your head to understand

Speaker 4 what the

Speaker 4 leaving rate was.

Speaker 4 And then they gave you the right side of the equation. This is NPR, by the way.

Speaker 4 And then they gave you the right side of the equation for the Christian part of it. In fact, if you listen carefully,

Speaker 4 24%

Speaker 4 of the Jews left, and 19% of the Christians left the faith.

Speaker 151 Let me hear the.

Speaker 103 It's in the second clip or in the first clip?

Speaker 4 It's in the second clip right at the end.

Speaker 10 Let me move it forward a little bit. That was, wow, I got duped.

Speaker 202 Pew surveyed who were raised Jewish still identify religious.

Speaker 68 I guess to go back a little bit.

Speaker 202 Still identify as Hindu today. Judaism's retention rate is also high.
In Israel, 100% of people Pew surveyed who were raised Jewish still identify religiously as Jewish.

Speaker 202 In the U.S., 76% of those raised Jewish still identify that way today, with most American Jews who've left the faith now identifying as unaffiliated. Pew also found that 19% of U.S.

Speaker 202 adults raised as Christian now identify as religiously unaffiliated.

Speaker 202 Jason DeRose, NPR News.

Speaker 64 Good catch.

Speaker 13 Wow.

Speaker 4 This This is why I teased this early in the show.

Speaker 57 With the half a decade?

Speaker 88 With the half a decade.

Speaker 4 This is the kind of stuff that NPR pulls. There's no reason for them to do it that way, to say 76% and then

Speaker 4 stayed and then 19% left for the Christian side.

Speaker 4 It gives you the sense that the Christians are bailing out. And in fact, the opposite is actually true.
And that's why

Speaker 4 you thought you answered a question that really really was a faulty question based on the bull crap.

Speaker 64 Wow.

Speaker 10 Well,

Speaker 27 thank you. That was very good.

Speaker 39 That is media deconstruction at its finest.

Speaker 27 I tip my hat to you, sir.

Speaker 4 Thank you. Thank you very much.

Speaker 39 I will say the thing that I was focused on is the term religion.

Speaker 121 Religion, I am not religious.

Speaker 148 I do not belong to a religion. And also when they say, well, all these Christians in Rome, well, you know, their religion is Catholicism.

Speaker 58 It is, in fact, and I do track this and I talk to different pastors about this.

Speaker 148 We are seeing record numbers of people leaving the Baptist church and the Catholic church, and they're going non-denominational or just are believers and have faith.

Speaker 26 So I think the whole study is somewhat skewed because if you actually look at the Zoomers, they're buying Bibles like no one else's business.

Speaker 19 It's up over 20% in the past year.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think that's veering off what the topic was. I think they were specifically talking about religion.

Speaker 37 Religion.

Speaker 92 I know, but when you, but people who are atheists or non-believers, when they hear religion, they think, oh, church people.

Speaker 148 But I'm not, I'm, you know, I go to a church, but it's not a religion.

Speaker 94 Organized religion, if anything, is a problem, in my opinion.

Speaker 23 And

Speaker 10 it's not been good for the Pope.

Speaker 231 Italian doctor who led the hospital team that cared for Pope Francis is giving giving new insight into the seriousness of the Pope's recent health battle.

Speaker 231 Professor Sergio Alfieri told an Italian newspaper that doctors considered ending his treatment. The critical moment came on February 28th when the Pope had a breathing crisis.

Speaker 231 The choice was whether to stop treatment and let him pass or try more aggressive drugs and therapies that come with a very high risk of damaging other organs.

Speaker 179 Man, we didn't hear that report that he almost died.

Speaker 49 It was all like, oh, he's going to be okay.

Speaker 160 He's just, he's just, he just inhaled some puke.

Speaker 103 It's okay.

Speaker 10 It's all right.

Speaker 70 He's hanging in there.

Speaker 49 He almost died.

Speaker 29 They almost pulled him off the system.

Speaker 231 The Pope was aware that there was a chance that he might not survive the night, according to the doctor who was then instructed to try everything and not give up. Back here at home, Dr.

Speaker 231 David Manoff at Temple University Hospital Jeans Campus says this type of scenario is not uncommon.

Speaker 196 Once you are

Speaker 196 really, really sick and in an ICU, sometimes some of the things that we really have to do are to prioritize what the most life-threatening organ failure is going to be at that time, even if some of the things that we do potentially come at the potential for injury to other organ systems.

Speaker 231 So, Dr. Manoff says the Pope has a long road to recovery.
Pope Francis was discharged on Sunday after 38 days in the hospital.

Speaker 5 Man,

Speaker 130 that was pretty serious.

Speaker 149 Gives me more time to think about the next Pope.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's a good, just a break for you.

Speaker 226 I'm narrowing it down.

Speaker 173 There's three candidates. Three candidates.
I'm getting close.

Speaker 4 I'm not even going to ask you to tease it. No.
I have international news just a little bit.

Speaker 52 International news, everybody. Wait a minute.

Speaker 127 I'm guessing maybe it is the BBC World Service.

Speaker 64 Yes.

Speaker 5 This is good stuff.

Speaker 13 Now, this is the South.

Speaker 4 All hell's breaking loose that we're not being told about. It's amazing, actually.
Let's start with South Sudan.

Speaker 182 The UN mission in South Sudan has warned that the arrest of first Vice President Riyak Machar has brought the country to the brink of another civil war.

Speaker 182 The renewed political violence began last month. Paddy Maguire reports.

Speaker 194 The arrest of President Salva Kiir's long-term rival at his residence in Juba is a dramatic escalation. In a statement, the head of UNMIS said rising tensions between factions loyal to Mr.

Speaker 194 Machar, a former rebel leader, and the forces of Mr. Kir were jeopardising the 2018 peace agreement.

Speaker 194 Nearly 400,000 people died in five years of devastating civil war before the power-sharing deal was signed.

Speaker 194 As that deal unravels and the violence escalates, some 50,000 South Sudanese citizens have already been displaced.

Speaker 85 Oh, will they be passionate at the universities about this?

Speaker 4 No, of course not.

Speaker 4 They don't care. Nobody cares about this stuff.
So here we go to the other one: it's Pakistan.

Speaker 155 Oh, I also have an Africa clip, actually.

Speaker 173 Pakistan, okay.

Speaker 182 Senior police in Balochistan say at least six people were killed on Wednesday in a spate of coordinated attacks in Pakistan's restless southwestern province.

Speaker 182 According to the French news agency, police accused gunmen of targeting bus passengers on the basis of their ethnicity. A member of the security forces was among those killed.

Speaker 182 Local press reported explosions and trucks being set on fire in various parts of the province. Separatist insurgents have stepped up their activity against Pakistani security forces in recent weeks.

Speaker 185 No protests about that either. Yeah, no one cares about that.

Speaker 126 Except us.

Speaker 4 And the Sudan thing is even funnier about people not caring. 400,000 people killed.

Speaker 157 No, who cares?

Speaker 38 Who cares?

Speaker 151 Interesting.

Speaker 66 Do we have the same clip here?

Speaker 148 Because I have one Africa clip because, you know, manga make African news great again.

Speaker 48 This USAID, Uganda, BBC?

Speaker 4 Well, let's try it.

Speaker 232 As a federal judge in the US, blocks the Trump administration from taking further steps to shut down the U.S.

Speaker 232 Agency for International Development, we'll be asking what that means in practice for people on the ground running health programs in Uganda.

Speaker 29 Ah, well, I happen to have an answer.

Speaker 10 Well, there you go.

Speaker 167 Yes, and this answer in the African News segment from the No Agenda World Service.

Speaker 143 We should do our own thing.

Speaker 70 Now, from the No Agenda World Service, we go to Africa.

Speaker 151 And what do we learn in Africa?

Speaker 52 This is from the former

Speaker 151 African Union Ambassador to the United States.

Speaker 179 Her name is

Speaker 167 Arikana Chihomburi Kwau.

Speaker 189 We need to understand the real reason why USAID is in Africa. And not just USAID, but other NGOs.
You look at DIFIT, which is the British equivalent, and many other smaller ones.

Speaker 189 Their sole purpose was to act as if...

Speaker 189 They're coming to rescue Africa. They are coming in claiming that they're introducing grassroots initiatives that are are going to help the people.

Speaker 189 And so they use that as a way to go into the most remote parts of Africa. When you look at it on paper, it all looks really good.
But they're actually wolf in sheep's clothing.

Speaker 189 They are using that open access, sounding humanitarian, to constantly destabilize governments.

Speaker 189 I can tell you right now, the majority of African leaders, and not just African leaders, but leaders in the developing world, are celebrating the exit of USID.

Speaker 189 If you think about it, their sole purpose, for example, filling in the gaps in healthcare and education. Where is the change? Show me one country that USID was in and education improved.

Speaker 189 Show me what country where USID was in and healthcare improved. The social services they're bringing, it's peanuts.

Speaker 189 The American taxpayer needs to know the billions of dollars that are being given to USAID. A fraction is making it to the people.

Speaker 15 Oh, there you go. Straight from the horse's mouth.

Speaker 160 Not like we didn't know that.

Speaker 4 No, we knew it. We had a note from one of our producers.
I wish I could could find it because I was going to

Speaker 10 discuss it.

Speaker 151 Yeah, I remember the notes.

Speaker 149 We actually got a couple of good notes.

Speaker 148 We got some good notes.

Speaker 4 The guy says, he says he was in Africa, and the USAID guys came in with a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 4 Mosquito nets, mosquito nets, mosquito nets, and they took a bunch of pictures of them with the, you know, here's the pictures of us with the guys, and then they left and left them high and dry, saying they were only there for a photo op.

Speaker 157 Yeah.

Speaker 27 Do your AI clips because then we can

Speaker 163 wrap this up.

Speaker 4 These clips, I don't know if this is going to work with what you have to talk about.

Speaker 42 Well, maybe.

Speaker 4 This is about AI in libraries and the benefit that it could provide. And I think this is accurate stuff.
And this is mostly the first clip is Brewster Cayley, who is at the

Speaker 4 head of

Speaker 4 the archive.org.

Speaker 10 Is it Kaylee?

Speaker 64 Kale?

Speaker 2 Kale, I think it's pronounced.

Speaker 4 I know the guy, but he won't.

Speaker 159 He won't take your call anymore.

Speaker 4 No, he won't take your call.

Speaker 10 Because you're typical.

Speaker 124 You're a podcast. Your podcast.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I went from

Speaker 4 important writer to podcaster, and that was the end of that.

Speaker 10 You were an important writer, award-winning.

Speaker 64 It was important.

Speaker 4 Award-winning.

Speaker 64 Instant best bestseller.

Speaker 154 Instant bestseller. Yeah, of course you did.
I know you did.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Instant bestseller.

Speaker 146 Yes, instant.

Speaker 146 Here we go.

Speaker 125 You're right.

Speaker 79 We're digitizing all of these pest reports from Africa for over the last century. And people are probably not going to be the primary readers of this, but our machines can.

Speaker 79 So, not only just search engines for going and helping people find it and then using digital interlibrary loan, which is fantastic and it's going on now, but we now have these technologies, the AI technologies, that allows these to be put in new and different ways to go and correlate information across texts that have spanned over centuries and to be able to try to make that more digestible, more learnable, more browsable, more interactable than ever before.

Speaker 79 The opportunity of our digital libraries coming and being useful to people because of these new technologies is just fantastic.

Speaker 64 Was that Brewster?

Speaker 4 I think so.

Speaker 4 So funny.

Speaker 4 It goes on and on with part two. There's a three-parter.
They're not much I can say.

Speaker 182 And are you talking about your own AI engine or using somebody else's?

Speaker 79 Well, lots of people are downloading.

Speaker 30 Hold on.

Speaker 169 What it sounds like to me, is he pitching selling archive.org to AI companies?

Speaker 66 Is that what I'm hearing here?

Speaker 4 I didn't hear that in the clip, but it's quite possible.

Speaker 182 And are you talking about your own AI engine or using somebody else's?

Speaker 79 Well, lots of people are downloading lots of things from the Internet Archive and putting them in the big commercial systems, but pretty much just the open materials because of all the copyright and lawsuits problems that we have in the United States.

Speaker 79 In Europe, they've specifically encouraged cultural heritage institutions and research organizations to work together to use these for new and different things.

Speaker 79 So that's why I'm in Amsterdam right now working with these research organizations to make use of these materials because there's regulatory clarity in Europe towards having a blossoming of our library collections and bringing them to life.

Speaker 138 He's got an agenda here for sure.

Speaker 4 Well, his agenda is he's getting sued left and right by these.

Speaker 98 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 226 Well, and I can't say it's,

Speaker 15 I mean,

Speaker 143 whenever, here's a little trick.

Speaker 165 I have a,

Speaker 155 this is a tip of the day.

Speaker 117 I have a browser plug-in.

Speaker 30 It's called archive page,

Speaker 92 and I have it on my Bravo browser.

Speaker 67 And so, whenever I hit a Wall Street,

Speaker 5 whenever I hit a

Speaker 23 whenever I hit a Wall Street Journal article or anything like that, I hit my

Speaker 19 archive page browser plug-in, and it will immediately find that page, which has then been archived by someone who apparently paid for it or archived it before it was behind whatever paywall.

Speaker 30 And boom, you got the whole page right there.

Speaker 90 You can read it, no problem.

Speaker 4 That is a good tip.

Speaker 4 Somebody else sent a similar tip that I'm not going to use today, but maybe we should gang him up and do the two tips

Speaker 4 in an upcoming show.

Speaker 4 Let's wrap it with the third of these clips.

Speaker 182 I want to look at another aspect of this, which is that we shouldn't forget that libraries preserve and make available many things other than books or magazines.

Speaker 158 For example, at the U.S.

Speaker 182 Library of Congress, less than a quarter of the objects held are books. So, what about web pages, for instance, Brewster? They do tend to appear and disappear with an alarming speed, don't they?

Speaker 79 The average life of a web page is about 100 days before it's changed or deleted. It completely changes how we go and build our collections.

Speaker 59 We have to do it preemptively, just in case that might be useful.

Speaker 79 We collect over 1 billion URLs every day. The number of web pages in the Wayback machine is now 900 billion.

Speaker 79 The scale of it is a little hard to understand, but it's just trying to record what's going on out there just so that we can basically have our own history just requires a different view of how we see our old-fashioned trade of archivists and librarians.

Speaker 6 Huh.

Speaker 102 Well,

Speaker 29 I certainly think he has an awesome index.

Speaker 26 He has a very crappy way to search.

Speaker 4 I mean, unless you have a... It's just out of search is no good.

Speaker 39 It's no good. But this is.

Speaker 4 In fact, if you could really search that thing, there's a lot of value in that.

Speaker 4 In fact, they also have the thing about that collection is he has a collection of 78s.

Speaker 117 Yes, we've talked about this.

Speaker 4 Unbelievable. And not only that, but he has a bunch of these nutballs out there who have fixed a lot of these, I mean, using modern

Speaker 125 software.

Speaker 4 Fixed a lot of the 78s so there's no pops or crackles or end of fidelity is better.

Speaker 4 It's a lot of work to do

Speaker 4 any of those, let alone a lot of them. And there's two or three guys that have been doing it just kind of consistently.
I guess maybe they do a few every day.

Speaker 4 The collection of 78s is is unbelievable.

Speaker 156 Do you remember when the MTV News webpage just went off the air?

Speaker 88 Yeah.

Speaker 58 I downloaded the entire archive of the MTV News website from archive.org.

Speaker 64 There's a couple of really, really good scripts out there.

Speaker 86 I mean, because it's basically an open source resource, it would be fantastic for Anthropic or someone to really put a good search engine on top of that.

Speaker 135 In fact, this is the trend as Google is about to do this very thing.

Speaker 2 Google has introduced a new feature called

Speaker 158 AI read by AI.

Speaker 233 Called AI mode, which is an advanced chat bot designed to answer search queries. This update is seen as Google's direct response to competitors like chat GPT, which have been gaining popularity.

Speaker 233 When users ask a question in AI mode, Google's Gemini 2.0 AI model generates a detailed answer.

Speaker 233 This AI system allows users to ask follow-up questions or or request additional links for more information.

Speaker 233 Google explains that AI mode is designed to simplify complex topics by organizing data and presenting it in a clear and easy to understand format.

Speaker 233 The company is making major improvements to its search engine by integrating the latest version of its artificial intelligence.

Speaker 233 This change is part of Google's effort to provide faster and more expert level answers to users.

Speaker 233 Competition in the AI search industry has been increasing, with smaller companies creating innovative ways to deliver search results.

Speaker 233 To stay ahead, Google has decided to enhance its search engine with more powerful AI capabilities.

Speaker 233 The Gemini 2.0 AI model will now be used to answer complicated questions, especially those related to subjects like computer programming and mathematics.

Speaker 64 And there it is.

Speaker 153 So first of all, yes, I just said it's an AI voice.

Speaker 10 Everyone's like, this voice is AI.

Speaker 38 Okay, are you listening to the show?

Speaker 54 So

Speaker 141 I decided to

Speaker 59 use multiple AIs, including ChatGPT.

Speaker 117 I did not try copilot because I had a project.

Speaker 27 I had a

Speaker 141 Grok.

Speaker 133 No, I had a computer coding project, and this is what it's supposed to be good at.

Speaker 57 And so

Speaker 41 I run a little streaming radio station called hellofred.fm, and I run it

Speaker 63 on a radio program called Station Playlist.

Speaker 148 And then so it streams, and you can schedule, do clocks, you know, when you want to jingle or a different format of music, all that stuff.

Speaker 59 And I was really interested in putting this on a Unix server and using something called LiquidSoap, which is a very,

Speaker 41 very extensive program.

Speaker 159 It has its all, it's a complete programming language.

Speaker 63 It's all open source.

Speaker 52 Thousands of people have worked on this.

Speaker 67 There's extensive documentation. All the syntax is very well documented, very well known.

Speaker 25 And so I'm able to set up the server and get a basic system where it just, you know, plays one song after another.

Speaker 167 But then I want to script and have transitions work a certain way.

Speaker 148 I wanted to pull, you know, I want to be able to put in a format, way which songs, you know, how many song separation, that kind of stuff. And I just can't figure it out.

Speaker 59 So I go to the AIs and it's very friendly.

Speaker 9 Oh, sure, Adam.

Speaker 151 I can, and it calls me by my name.

Speaker 85 Adam, I can help you with this, no problem.

Speaker 133 I spent almost all of Monday and Tuesday trying to just get this thing to do a different type of crossfade.

Speaker 52 And it took, I think I must have over 300 prompts and replies, and I keep putting the error, and it kept getting an error, and then another error.

Speaker 142 And then all of a sudden, well, you have the wrong version of FFmpeg, so I'm recompiling FFmpeg from source.

Speaker 49 And then it's like, well, you need to recompile the kernel.

Speaker 169 None of these things could actually help me write a successful script.

Speaker 36 It sucks.

Speaker 10 This is the whole point.

Speaker 34 It's supposed to make people be able to code.

Speaker 160 Mathematics, code.

Speaker 30 They said it right there.

Speaker 10 It does it. It was good.
It does a horrible job.

Speaker 4 You walked right into it.

Speaker 59 And

Speaker 59 I even said, here's the documentation.

Speaker 85 Oh, yes, I'm very aware of this documentation.

Speaker 171 And then it'll be like, oh, no, that seems like we have a problem.

Speaker 9 You're using a different version of what time to step down from FFmpeg 5.5.1 to 4.4.7.

Speaker 36 It sucks.

Speaker 70 It is a time waste.

Speaker 149 I could have learned the language in the amount of time I put into it.

Speaker 10 What a horrible experience.

Speaker 160 It's going nowhere.

Speaker 4 And welcome to the No Agenda Grievance section of the show.

Speaker 9 I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.

Speaker 10 Imagine all the people who could do this. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

Speaker 197 Yeah,

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Speaker 197 in the morning.

Speaker 151 I missed a semicolon somewhere.

Speaker 78 Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 And by the way, they'll talk about grievance. I have a grievance with today's donation segment.

Speaker 4 We had a total of 30.

Speaker 22 Yeah, this is crazy.

Speaker 105 This is really crazy.

Speaker 4 It's the shortest list we've ever had, I'd say, for at least two years.

Speaker 185 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I'll read the ones from

Speaker 4 starting with

Speaker 4 entry number 10, actually,

Speaker 4 and take it to entry number 30, and that would be the total for the day.

Speaker 80 Wow.

Speaker 4 Mark Lay in Houston, Texas, starts us off at $199. And John W.
Schuman in Madison, Wisconsin, $184.29.

Speaker 4 Sir Ever of the Watt in Linwood, Michigan,

Speaker 4 $130.03.

Speaker 4 Kevin McLaughlin, there he is right away at 8008. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and lover of boobs.

Speaker 10 Boobs?

Speaker 4 Tim Kwan, 75. He actually came in with a Weiss

Speaker 4 guy. Somehow he managed to get Weiss through.

Speaker 143 Wise is a weird app, but it basically

Speaker 63 does

Speaker 96 an ACH transfer somehow.

Speaker 4 Well, if you do it, set it up at your bank. If you do it the other way around, where you have to, where you put the onus on the show,

Speaker 4 we can't get it.

Speaker 58 No, of course not.

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Speaker 4 I'd like Tim to tell me what his process was.

Speaker 58 We can't get anything done with our bank.

Speaker 10 No. I love our bank, but basically.

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Speaker 22 you got cash. We'll take your cash.
We'll take your cash. We'll take a check.

Speaker 4 We'll get cash. What else you got?

Speaker 104 You can write a check.

Speaker 152 You want gold bars.

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Speaker 143 Shut up already.

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Speaker 4 Jose Paredes in Wichita, Kansas, $69.33. He needs a dedouching.

Speaker 54 You've been dedouched.

Speaker 4 And he's got a birthday coming up and he's on the list. Bruno Freitas dosomething.

Speaker 4 I don't have it on here.

Speaker 2 Oh, hold on.

Speaker 38 Brunos Freitas dos Santos.

Speaker 4 Dos Santos in San Francisco, $52.72, which is $50 donation. Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina, $52.72.
Tom Flynn in Beaverton, Oregon, $52.72. And he says, great show.

Speaker 4 Eric Hochl, our buddy in Mulrose. Mulrose, Deutschland, 52.

Speaker 4 Now we have the 50. We're already at the 50s, and here we go.

Speaker 4 Starting with Brett Denton and

Speaker 4 Boise. Melissa Alvarez in Ponta Verda Vedra Beach, Florida.

Speaker 4 Christopher Haynes in Spring, Texas, George Uchet in La Vernia, Texas, Jacqueline Connolly in Green Bay, Go Packers, Wisconsin, Richard Gardner, I think he's in New York, Aaron Wise Gerber in Bend, Oregon, Christopher Haynes in Spring, Texas, a lot of people in Spring, Texas, Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana.

Speaker 4 Alan Bean,

Speaker 4 Baron Alan Bean in Beaverton, Oregon. And last on our list, a Baroness Knight in Edmonds, Washington.
And that's the short list for today's show.

Speaker 4 I want to thank them for helping us out on show of all shows, 1750, a landmark show.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 151 Well, we did have,

Speaker 151 thank God we had one

Speaker 148 show number donation.

Speaker 20 Man, step it up, people.

Speaker 70 And please check your recurring donations because they've fallen off dramatically as they expire when your credit card or something else.

Speaker 4 We've lost a lot of those. I think that makes a big difference.
And we do have to give, I don't know why he did this, but he came in at $49.99, but he wants,

Speaker 4 this is Dennis down below. He's just had hemorrhoid surgery.
Ouch. He says it's been six weeks of five hours of diffusingly pain after I poop.

Speaker 4 I mean, the pain is unbearable. I'm on

Speaker 4 this and that. He says that he's not cutting it.
I know I'm not a big donor under 50 every year, but if you guys can give me some health karma, that would be great.

Speaker 29 Yes,

Speaker 134 I'm going to give him some health karma right now because, man, especially after you poop, that's no good.

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Speaker 12 Caitlin Meyer says happy birthday to Lady Linda.

Speaker 25 She celebrates today.

Speaker 121 Michelle Neva says happy birthday to Nora Neva and she turns 21 on

Speaker 123 Saturday.

Speaker 12 Jose Paredes on the 29th. That's also on Saturday.
And some health karma for Denise Denise.

Speaker 14 Oh, that's not a birthday, but I will add that in just a moment.

Speaker 12 But first, let me say happy birthday to these people on behalf of everyone here at the best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 109 Let me do that health karma for her right away.

Speaker 227 You've got karma.

Speaker 29 There we go.

Speaker 176 Because we do have a title change here.

Speaker 109 I'm going to read the note first.

Speaker 38 This is Richard of Tasmania.

Speaker 151 He says, thanks for accepting.

Speaker 39 He says, Adam and John, thanks for accepting Australian dollar dues as real money.

Speaker 70 You do a better job than our useless government by respecting our dodgy currency that way.

Speaker 169 I'm a recurring producer in your show and have earned enough to experience to be a level two knight.

Speaker 172 Benefits include a healthy amygdala, increased resistance to propaganda, and improved ability to detect gaslighting.

Speaker 142 Thank you very much. So he becomes a

Speaker 78 well, it says layway title change, so I'm not sure what he becomes.

Speaker 20 Oh, baronet. There you go.

Speaker 39 He becomes a baronet.

Speaker 151 So let me just let me

Speaker 9 give me the jingle.

Speaker 159 I could have done the whole thing in the music.

Speaker 12 Anyway, thank you very much, Sir Richard of Tasmania.

Speaker 160 Congratulations, you are now Baronet, Sir Richard of Tasmania.

Speaker 49 And we do have a Commodore coming in today.

Speaker 25 This would be the Archduke of Central Florida, who stepped it up once again.

Speaker 49 So we say, congratulations, you are now a Commodore and you are arriving, sir.

Speaker 121 Woo, very nice.

Speaker 177 Commodore, go to noagendarings.com and there's a tab there, a menu item.

Speaker 117 You can give us the address and the actual title, but I think it will be Commodore Archduke of Central Florida.

Speaker 125 Let us know for sure. We'll get it out to you as soon as possible.

Speaker 77 They're very, very handsome.

Speaker 6 No one should

Speaker 6 be upset.

Speaker 172 We got the North Georgia Monthly Meetup at 6 o'clock today at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.

Speaker 121 We have the Columbia River Basin Monthly Tri-Cities Meetup 7 o'clock tomorrow at Ty's Bar and Grill in West Richland, Washington.

Speaker 185 On Saturday,

Speaker 151 one every single day, the Magix 33 Toverland meetup.

Speaker 39 Oh, this is in Safenham, the Netherlands.

Speaker 154 Is that during the

Speaker 29 10 o'clock in the morning?

Speaker 10 Bring your...

Speaker 103 Bring your alcohol, I guess.

Speaker 142 Toe for Land, Tofer Lamb 2 in Safenham, the Netherlands.

Speaker 58 Okay, 10 o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 167 Also on Saturday, this time in California, all aboard the Flight of the No Agenda meetup number 61, Leo Bravo's organizing at Santa Fe Express Cafe in Fullerton, California.

Speaker 177 The hipsters, trolls, and producers of No Agenda Brooklyn meetup in Brooklyn, New York at Wing Bar.

Speaker 148 Definitely check that out on Saturday, 3.33 Eastern Time.

Speaker 30 Also on Saturday, the Central Ohio really late St.

Speaker 149 Patty's Day meetup. That's very late.

Speaker 172 5.30 at Dempsey's in Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker 177 And finally, on our next show day, Sunday, the TMI Evac Zone Crossword Puzzle Meetup.

Speaker 10 You'll be doing crossword puzzles apparently at 3:30 p.m.

Speaker 149 at Evergrain Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 226 And I got a promo here.

Speaker 234 Yeah, what a six-letter word for Party League experience.

Speaker 177 Hmm, try meetup.

Speaker 235 Speaking of meetups, there's a TMI Evac Zone Crossword Puzzle Meetup Sunday, March 28th at Evergrain Brewing Company at 3:33 p.m. Hope to see everyone there to solve this No Agenda crossword puzzle.

Speaker 234 What's a nine-letter word for father who exploits his human resources?

Speaker 80 Douchebag!

Speaker 64 Okay, thanks for the promo.

Speaker 39 Go to noagendametups.com.

Speaker 59 That's where you can find the entire overview of all meetups: calendar view, list view.

Speaker 26 You can search by zip code.

Speaker 52 It's all over the world. They are producer-organized.

Speaker 149 This is where you get connection that gives you protection because everybody you meet at a No Agenda Meetup is going to be your first responder in a crisis. Noagendametups.com.

Speaker 39 If you can't find one, neuro, start one yourself.

Speaker 8 It's always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

Speaker 8 You to be where you won't be triggered or hell lame.

Speaker 8 You to be where everybody feels the same.

Speaker 8 It's like a party.

Speaker 65 Yo, yo.

Speaker 44 So are you back to regular ISOs now?

Speaker 134 You're no longer doing the AI stuff? Are you?

Speaker 4 This time it's a split.

Speaker 4 See what you got.

Speaker 87 Okay, hold on a second.

Speaker 138 I got to correct some of the volumes on these because some of the volumes are way off. Yeah, here's what I got.

Speaker 139 Yeah, that's a great one.

Speaker 68 Yeah, I got this one.

Speaker 192 Bum for all, all for bum.

Speaker 4 I thought that was kind of cute.

Speaker 94 And then this one.

Speaker 108 Bye, Adam. Bye, John.

Speaker 148 Not really an ISO, but

Speaker 198 no.

Speaker 4 Okay, what do you got? Well, I got here's a real one.

Speaker 4 This is the

Speaker 4 A too much.

Speaker 182 It was too much.

Speaker 4 It was too much.

Speaker 4 It was too much.

Speaker 88 It was not good enough.

Speaker 4 It's not too much. And then here is the.
This is a meta.

Speaker 64 Meta?

Speaker 4 Yeah, this is a meta clip, and you hear why.

Speaker 184 I may be fake, but that show was real and great.

Speaker 4 What happened? I may be fake,

Speaker 4 but that show is real and great.

Speaker 138 I'm so torn about this.

Speaker 104 Oh, oh, oh, no, he's torn.

Speaker 12 It is time for John C. Dvorak's tip of the day, everybody.

Speaker 10 Great advice for you and me.

Speaker 102 I'll use it, though. Created by Dana Bernetti.

Speaker 43 I'll use it.

Speaker 162 I'll use it.

Speaker 13 Okay, this is

Speaker 4 I got this from two different people.

Speaker 22 Oh.

Speaker 4 And which is always like a sign. The first time I looked at it, I said, I don't know.
Then I started really looking at it. And I started, holy mackerel, this is actually pretty phenomenal.

Speaker 4 But you have to dig, you have to go down because all the top,

Speaker 4 this is called, this is a, I don't even know where they got this

Speaker 4 top level domain, but the site is TV.garden.

Speaker 4 TV.garden. I want you to go to this.

Speaker 4 Now, it has.

Speaker 4 It has TV shows from every country in the world, and it has almost everything that you can imagine. You can click on the map,

Speaker 4 you can scroll down. There's a lot of different ways of doing it.
The map, you can spin it around the globe.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 4 most of the stuff at the top, like for example, you go to the United States, the first 10 things at the top are all

Speaker 4 religious programming. I'm thinking there's a bunch of religious stuff, but no, you dig down, you'd go down, there's thousands of stations,

Speaker 4 including Buena Park Television, for example.

Speaker 185 But I want want you to do this.

Speaker 4 Either go to the map.

Speaker 167 I'm at the map.

Speaker 4 Okay, hit Canada.

Speaker 63 Okay, I'm going to hit Canada so hard they won't know what hit him.

Speaker 58 Yep.

Speaker 4 Okay, now go to the on the side, you see there's two things in Canada. One is Afghan Nobel movies.
There's a bunch of movies. There's Afghanistan because it's alphabetical, so

Speaker 4 every country's got

Speaker 4 click on the second one, Afghan Noble TV.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 40 Hacked by Cyber Dragons team, it says.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 107 What is this?

Speaker 4 The page has been hacked.

Speaker 57 The whole page has been overrun by some group.

Speaker 210 Interesting.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 88 Barney the dinosaur.

Speaker 107 Wow.

Speaker 64 This is pretty cool.

Speaker 4 It's unbelievable.

Speaker 64 Wow.

Speaker 226 How do they even get away with this?

Speaker 4 Therein lies the rub.

Speaker 4 I do not believe this site is legal.

Speaker 90 I don't think so either.

Speaker 4 They have everything from every country. Every imaginable TV feed is on this site.
So you can watch, they have Milwaukee's local station.

Speaker 35 They have

Speaker 4 everything in Canada. I didn't even know half this stuff existed.
They have every BBC channel, plus stuff in England I've never heard of. It's just a great site.
This is a fabulous tip.

Speaker 78 Do they have

Speaker 90 Korean, the Korean news lady?

Speaker 4 North Korea? That's a good question. I don't know if that's Korean.

Speaker 140 We got North Korea. We got North Korea.

Speaker 120 Here we go.

Speaker 93 North Korean Central TV.

Speaker 169 I got bars and tone on Pyongyang.

Speaker 127 That is an amazing tip.

Speaker 120 Now

Speaker 149 you thought I was deep into my code.

Speaker 38 I'm going to be playing with this for the rest of the day.

Speaker 105 That is amazing.

Speaker 4 Korean central television. What a great tip.

Speaker 69 Another fantastic tip, John.

Speaker 49 You have outdone yourself.

Speaker 133 I mean, every single time, it just keeps on getting better.

Speaker 120 You like a fine wine, my friend.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 169 The fine wine of tips.

Speaker 12 It is John C. Dvorak's tip of the day, tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com.

Speaker 6 Creative master, you and me. Just the tip with JCD

Speaker 6 and sometimes Adam.

Speaker 6 Created by Dana Bernetti.

Speaker 64 Well now.

Speaker 159 You've outdone yourself on that one.

Speaker 149 And of course, the question is,

Speaker 120 did you click on all the A's and the B's before you finally got to Canada to find that hack channel?

Speaker 29 Is that what you were doing when you?

Speaker 4 That was just a random walk. I hit the hack channel by accident.

Speaker 126 Wow.

Speaker 59 Amazing.

Speaker 44 That concludes our broadcast day for today, but we will be very delighted to come back and do it all again for you on Sunday.

Speaker 158 Clearly with more stuff.

Speaker 29 More stuff.

Speaker 84 There's lots of stuff.

Speaker 22 And your favorite place for world news. news.

Speaker 162 No Agenda World News Service will return on Sunday.

Speaker 70 End of show mix is coming up for Professor Jay Jones.

Speaker 20 We got

Speaker 135 Bose Music.

Speaker 44 He's got a cool little diddy he hacked together.

Speaker 12 And up next on the No Agenda Stream Patrolroom.io with the modern podcast apps, it's Grimerica.

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Speaker 10 Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg.

Speaker 52 In the morning, everybody.

Speaker 167 I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 4 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, and it looks like it might rain. I'm John C.
DeVora.

Speaker 12 Remember us at NoAgenda Donations.com and make it great for Sunday.

Speaker 94 We'll see you then. Until then.

Speaker 22 Adios, Mofos, a hooey-hoo-eye, and such.

Speaker 225 The strength that we have is in this moment.

Speaker 120 What are you doing in this moment?

Speaker 9 Elon Musk is a Nazi.

Speaker 4 Oh, the in this moment.

Speaker 236 There's some kind of mental illness thing going on here.

Speaker 2 This doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 What is this all about?

Speaker 193 In this moment.

Speaker 236 bullets are being fired, charging stations are put ablaze, Teslas are being put ablaze.

Speaker 4 What is the op here? What are they trying to accomplish?

Speaker 80 I don't feel good in this moment.

Speaker 120 How do you feel in this moment?

Speaker 4 Are you guys that lost?

Speaker 236 Does it really come down to the basic

Speaker 42 really what this comes down to?

Speaker 4 It baffles me. You said every man's gotta be fine, fine, fine.

Speaker 156 Is that what it comes down to?

Speaker 10 What is the best way to avoid war?

Speaker 11 Your musket get ready for war.

Speaker 10 These people are trying to kill us.

Speaker 4 She's making this up as she goes along.

Speaker 2 It's grassroots, too.

Speaker 192 Grassroots,

Speaker 47 grassroots, non-violent.

Speaker 71 There is no conspiracy.

Speaker 163 There is no well-funded cabal.

Speaker 192 Volkswagen is retooling one of their closed factories. I mean, like, really friendly fire, all-out warmonger.

Speaker 10 It's what this law requires.

Speaker 103 She got that part right.

Speaker 236 Does it really come down to the basic what it all comes down to?

Speaker 42 Really, what this comes down to? It baffles me.

Speaker 156 Is that what it comes down to? Let's go, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 2 Meanwhile, bad people will do bad things.

Speaker 2 Stay in your homes, I repeat.

Speaker 6 Stay in your homes.

Speaker 192 Your personal safety, the safety of the entire city, depends upon your full cooperation with the military authorities.

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Speaker 103 I digress. Of course it is.

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Speaker 184 I may be fake, but that show was real and great.