1798 - "Adam & The Robot"

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Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Thursday, September 11th, 2025.

This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination episode 1798.

This is no agenda.

With nothing cutesy to say, and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Snow Country here in FEMA, region number six in the morning, everybody.

I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're noticing they caught the guy, they let the guy go, they caught him.

They've got him.

They don't don't have him, they have him, they don't know what they're doing.

I'm John C.

DeBorak.

It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill in the morning.

Yeah.

Tough week.

Not a good week.

So, Todd Cochrane.

Well, at least it didn't happen on a show day.

No, it gives us a little bit of time to have nothing.

Todd Cochran passed away on, I think, Monday,

which was, and do you know who he is, Todd Cochran?

Well, I know his name, but I don't know, don't know him.

Oh, he was

one of the very early podcasters, and he founded.

Oh, yes, you met.

Yes, yeah, I did.

Well, I never met him, but I knew who he was.

Right.

And he, well, he was a No Agenda Night, actually.

Yes.

And he founded Blueberry, and he just died suddenly.

Literally, that's what the

obituary said, died suddenly of a heart attack, 61.

It's like, oh, okay.

A little young.

Yes.

And today, of course, September 11th, where we all have to remember that

after those devastating plane crashes everywhere, we found a

hijacker's passport completely unscathed.

Let's not forget that.

Let's not forget that.

But yesterday, man, Charlie Kirk.

I got a note from one of our producers,

Iraq veteran, because it kind of fits with September 11th, because why was he there?

And he said, Double sad day today, Charlie Kirk yesterday, a true free speech assassination.

I saw a young Marine die in a similar way in Iraq in 2005.

And the video of Charlie rocked me like it was the first time seeing it.

Knowing Charlie more with his wife and two kids and watching him for years and being proud of the things he has done for our young people, I canceled all my meetings for today because it's hard to stay focused because I'm time traveling back to Iraq and it's just looping in my head and he also said that the videoification of violence is just horrific which is true you know you and i've discussed you're not really on x like that with an algorithm you're just uh on the on the website i think

but right it's always because my phone's in a drawer yes smartly it's always everything you see is violence if you just scroll and if you let the videos go it's all just people beating each other that's if you keep picking it

If you watch those videos, if you stop watching those videos, you'll start getting something else.

Yeah, no, that's not true because I've tried everything.

Tried everything.

So you sent a couple of bonus clips, which I want to start because I presume you have the latest update, which I don't have.

But I'll just tell you, something changed in me yesterday.

This was

something.

Something changed in me.

Something changed.

You know, we all went to church.

We prayed for Charlie, his friends, his family, prayed for our country.

I can't claim this show from this day forward will ever could really be called no agenda because from now on, I got an agenda, an American agenda.

And that's based on what Charlie Kirk stood for: truth according to the word of God.

I am sick of it all.

Sick of it.

Time to put down our phones and pick up our Bibles.

Give me your bonus clips.

What you got?

Well, I have the teaser clip from ABC, which is what brought me to the second clip.

And the ⁇

because the second clip kind of brings it a little ⁇

I was not expecting this.

I thought it was just ⁇ I thought we'll discuss this, but I thought this was a professional hit.

I completely, I still think it was.

Well, to a point, but there's some conspiracy aspect to it.

And

being a professional hit, I thought...

led me to believe that they're never going to catch the guy because he already had because from what you can tell from what we've been told, is there were two

decoys, and which is one more than usual, that were both picked up and let go.

And there was,

and the guy was, you know, he was, it was a one-shot, which was important to know.

Bolt action rifle,

supposedly.

Well, yes,

news flash, nobody knows anything, and the FBI is certainly the last to know, apparently.

And

so we have

this disc broke this morning from ABC.

Hi, I'm Diane Mesedo.

Let's get right to breaking news.

The FBI is asking for help identifying this man who they are calling a person of interest in the shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

Sources tell ABC News: ammunition found with the rifle was engraved with messages about transgender issues and anti-fascist ideology.

Yeah,

really convenient in this case.

Well, I don't know how convenient it was, but the point is that they brought it in later.

This is a long presentation and they had

gotten as far as they could with

the story.

As far as I'm concerned, the teaser there was probably the thing wrapped up in a

nutshell.

In a package.

So then we have this from, this I picked up.

I retweeted this and I took it down.

I said, I don't know, maybe not because it's

inflammatory.

But I thought this clip was

quite interesting.

Yeah, you got to tell me which clip that is because it didn't.

Oh, it's trans.

Oh, hold on a second.

It was the second bonus clip.

I know I saved it.

Hold on a second.

I don't understand why it's not here.

I'm sorry.

I'm telling you,

I saved this clip, and for some reason, you probably saved it to a wrong, it probably went to a wrong folder then.

Foreboding, yeah, here it is.

Okay, hold on a second.

Sorry about that.

I'll cut this out, and no one will ever know the difference.

Oh, if it's a trans shooter, baby, the trans community.

So, this person here goes to the university.

Of course, evade them.

And look at what he said yesterday.

He says here, Charlie Kirk is coming to my college tomorrow.

I really hope someone evaporates him.

Literally.

And then he writes, Let's just say something big will happen tomorrow.

Hmm.

So a trans student is saying this yesterday.

And I also find it very, very odd that the person asking the question was asking Charlie about trans shooters before he got shot.

So FBI, Cash Mattel, whoever the fuck this dude is, yeah, I think you should look into this.

Yeah, no, that's uh, I think we probably all saw that post.

And the person who posted that after that was like, No, no, no, I didn't do anything.

There are a lot of people saying no.

Well, the other thing is the coincidence because the question was to Charlie, how many trans shooters were involved in, you know, mass shootings in the last 10 years?

And Charlie's answer was a little glib, which was abnormal for him.

But it was a good, good, it was good.

It was funny.

I have it here.

I have it here.

I have it here.

Okay.

Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?

Too many.

I think it replays here.

Five.

Okay, now five is a lot, right?

I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you some credit.

Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?

Counting or not counting gang violence?

Great.

So

the time differential between him saying too many and getting shot was 11 seconds.

And

the coincidence is a little too much for me.

Me too.

Because you had the guy posting this note

in total denial.

And the next thing you know, you have a trans guy asking a specific, or a trans,

I don't know if he was, he wasn't.

No, I don't think he was.

No, he was just some guy or dude or they, them.

Who knows?

But some guy coincidentally asking a question about trans shooters, and within 11 seconds, he gets shot.

And then now we have the report from ABC that has these etchings on bullets or something, which may or may not be true.

But

if this is lined up to just sabotage, and there's also an Antifa angle, according to ABC.

There was Antifa stuff.

It's It's a little bit too much to expect this to be

an op,

anti-trans op.

There's something going on.

Yeah, we have an enemy in America.

And if anything,

that enemy is trying to cause civil war

because that's where we're headed.

Well, I don't buy that.

Okay, you don't buy it?

No, we're not headed to a civil war.

World wars have been started over one guy getting shot.

Yeah.

Okay.

So you say whatever you want to do.

You say whatever you want.

I'm telling you how I feel.

And if anyone's to blame, if anyone's to blame, it's the crap that we have on television.

It's the crap that our politicians, it's the crap that is repeated on social media.

And it's crap like this.

But following up with what was just said, he's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups and i always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words which then lead to hateful actions exactly let's hear an example i i just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country and maybe there will be people need to start taking to the streets this is a dictator you know there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives enemies of the state show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful.

Do something about your dad's immigration practices, you feckless.

Holy cute.

How do you resist the temptation to run up and bring her neck?

The biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right.

I thought he should have punched him in the face.

I said, even if he lost, he insulted your wife

on the escalator and called Mexicans rapists and murderers.

He said, well, what do you think I should have done?

I said, I think you should have punched him in the face and then gotten out of the race.

He would have been a hero.

I'd like to punch him in the face.

I said, if we were in high school, I'd take you behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.

Punch some people in the face.

When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?

They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump.

And that's a fact.

Look as his character is stabbed to death.

Where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him?

I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.

A Missouri state senator is under investigation by the Secret Service after saying she hopes President Trump is assassinated.

I will go and take Trump out tonight.

And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant,

in the Pakistan,

at a gasoline station, you get hurt and you pull apart.

And you push back on them.

And you tell them that they're not well done.

And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting system and our honoring our Constitution

are right at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

They're not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they're not going to stop after Election Day.

And that should be, everyone should take note of that on both levels, that this isn't, they're not going to let up, and they should not.

When you have weak people who clearly are mentally ill,

this kind of rhetoric can stir people up to nut job stuff.

Well, that's definitely true.

But if you're going to blame anybody, if we're going to go with the transgender angle, I would blame the medical community.

I'm with you.

I'm completely with you.

But it's not just the medical community.

It's the lawmakers who are pushing for this, the news that continuously pushes for this, political opinions that continue push for this.

Yeah.

And, you know, I'm also done with the abortion baby killing.

I'm done with all of it.

I'm done with all of this crap.

And I'm also done with Israel,

who may or may not, I mean, if this was a, if this was an assassin's hit, listen to what Charlie Kirk was saying about Israel.

I have less ability sometimes online to criticize the Israeli government without backlash than actual Israelis do.

You're not allowed to.

It's even worse than that.

Like, I host a person that I

moderate the debate of myself.

Right.

And I give equal time to Josh Hammer, equal time to a pro-Israel advocate, And my moral character is being put into question.

And so I just, I think it's a hyper-paranoid, like, we're just going to try to, we're going to just stamp out everything

type of practice.

It's like just a horrible.

You can't go there when it comes to Israel.

Well, you and I believe that we're Americans and Americans first.

Period.

End of story.

We are citizens of this nation, okay?

And Israel.

We have funded, we have supported.

Not like we're going to, but we're like, honestly, the way you are treating me is so repulsive.

I have text messages, Megan, calling me an anti-Semite, but my moral character is now being put into question, Megan.

Not my decisions, not like, hey, are you doing this?

Is it smart or is it dumb?

But no, I am a bad person if I do this.

For all we know, this could have been a warning to Trump.

Oh, you really?

You have a problem with us bombing Qatar, bombing people in Qatar?

You got a problem with that?

I wouldn't put it past Bibi Netanyahu.

He's off the rails, that guy.

He's gone too far now.

Well, that's something of a stretch, although

curiously, you now agree with Natalie and Clayton.

I'm not agreeing.

I'm saying for all we know.

We don't know anything.

That's their thesis.

What I do know

is

for people saying, what was this airplane?

The assassin left on a private plane.

He left the airport just

right after Kirk was shot.

The airplane November 888, Kilo Golf, was actually the plane Charlie Kirk traveled on most.

I know this because when I saw him speak in Dallas,

we landed our little four-seater at Addison Airport and I saw, and that was the

only plane I saw.

And I spoke to the people there, and they told me that that was Kirk's plane.

And it's like a net jet.

So it can leave, it can stay overnight, whenever and wherever they need it.

So

that's not true.

But

the ignorance, the ignorance of people, you know, we have the Patriot Academy here.

And,

you know, which is, they teach young people how to introduce bills and how to argue them on the floor and how to make them politically savvy to get them into government.

And so they were going to create Constitution City, which would be like a small, you know, 200-person city.

It's at 1776, you know, Patriot Way, whatever.

It's all QC.

If you see what people post about them online, it's unbelievable.

Burn it.

Bomb them.

Maybe this will be another Waco.

They'll kill each other and do the rest of us a favor, nuke it.

Let them die by their bigotry.

People are ignorant.

And all they do is they sit on their phones all day and listen to nonsense and nonsense politicians and nonsense talking heads, and they believe this stuff.

And then you get people, I only have one of them because it's just too annoying.

What's the this is just a perfect example: white woman, green hair.

So I'm gonna be very fucking clear about this so that you know exactly where I stand.

And I will say this with my whole entire chest.

There are some people on this app that are sitting there saying, oh, you shouldn't wish death upon any person, no matter what side they're on.

Fuck that.

Fuck that.

Charlie Kirk was a fucking Nazi.

He was a fucking Nazi.

And you know what kind of Nazi is the best Nazi?

A dead one.

Thank God that

shit stain of a person is no longer in this world.

And may his hell be being confronted by every single marginalized person that he hurt.

That is what is fucking wrong with you.

That does not make me a bad person for thinking that bad people should not be in this world.

So fuck that Nazi and and have a great day.

And, you know, you've seen it.

There was a lot of this everywhere.

Oh, there's some gems.

You know, and my favorite proverb, fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions.

That is exactly what that woman is.

So

hopefully we'll find out.

Hopefully we'll figure this out.

Man,

if it was Netanyahu,

it wasn't Netanyahu.

Well, you don't know that.

You don't know anything.

Remember, we just found the passport.

I don't know anything, but to go out of the, on the, out of this, just out of the blue with Netanyahu is just ridiculous.

I don't care what you think about my ridiculous assertions.

I'm not leaving anything off the table.

Anything.

Well,

how about this, the whole thing

was

staged and it was an extraction?

No, I don't.

Oh, you just left something off the table.

Okay, I just wanted to clear it.

Would you please show me the evidence?

Or do you have any?

Well, show me the evidence of Netanyahu.

I have no evidence other than a very targeted hint.

I'm just pointing out that you are leaving stuff off the table and

you're just being bigoted in some funny way.

I'm not being bigoted.

You know, I actually yesterday thought I would stop doing this show.

I'm so sick and tired of you just saying these things.

I have an opinion.

Do you tell me I'm bigoted?

Where's your green hair, dude?

I'm just saying.

But you know,

you'll get over it.

Let's listen to this answer.

Maybe you'll get over it.

Maybe.

And maybe not.

Maybe.

So let's listen to some analysis about, and I thought this was kind of interesting.

This is about the police work going into this from some

quasi-spook character.

This is Kirk Analysis Police Work NTD.

And joining us now to unpack the tragic death of Charlie Kirk is Michael Letts.

He's a former Green Beret and law enforcement expert.

He's also the CEO of Invest USA.

Michael, thank you so much for joining us to discuss this tragedy.

First, what will federal law enforcement have to do to figure out exactly what happened?

A large crowd of students were there as Charlie spoke.

Will need to be assessed.

The first thing we'll have to do is go in and do the trajectory, find out exactly where the round came from.

You know, it's kind of tragic that this much time has passed without that being pinpointed.

But they're in the process of doing that now.

Obviously, we'll have to match up the trajectory with the exact location, the exact casing on the shell, what type rifle was used.

And then we're going to have to go into the intel community, find out chatter, find out the list of suspects.

And that may be very broad because

obviously Charlie's message was controversial.

It was right on point, but it was controversial.

And so there's a lot of people that would seek to do him harm.

So we're going to have to make sure that that gets done, gets done effectively.

The problem that it does bring is that it could take some time.

But one of the things I want to reassure the American people is that America stands strong and firm, has always stood strong and firm on the matters of patriotism and truth.

And this will not deter us in any form or fashion.

And who is this guy?

Well, they introduced him at the beginning.

You can play that again if you want to know.

But the thing that I thought interesting about this clip was that the Intel community has a list of suspects just sitting around that they keep track of everybody.

Let me listen to who that guy is again.

Let me hear his intro.

And joining us now to unpack the tragic death of Charlie Kirk is Michael Letz.

He's a former Green Beret and law enforcement expert.

He's also the CEO of Invest USA.

Invest USA.

Well, I'll have to look that up.

But he clearly says, Charlie Kirk had a controversial message.

What was controversial to nut jobs?

Who was it controversial to?

It was obviously controversial to everybody at MSNBC.

Invest USA sells

bulletproof vests.

Okay.

Well, there's an expert.

Well, I mean, you can say what you want.

This play clip too.

And of course, right now, it's still early stages, but from your perspective, what kind of weapon could have been used here today?

It definitely was a long-range rifle.

I believe it was a sniper rifle, which quite frankly, if that is the case, proves to be accurate, then this was not some just off-the-cuff, shall we say, disgruntled leftist personnel.

This would have been a well-coordinated and a well-planned attack.

It would have been given a lot of consideration, a lot of thought, which then narrows the

prospects or the suspects that we're looking at.

But it also creates this great concern.

Where do they stop?

They're going after conservatives.

Obviously, they attempted to assassinate the president.

They've made other attempts on other personnel.

So, where is their stop?

Where is their ending point?

Are they just determined to make sure they continue this violence against the American people until they get whatever it is they're looking for, which obviously is a return to power?

Oh, so he's saying the Democrats, basically.

Yeah.

That's what he's saying, basically:

Democrats.

And all those clips that you played earlier of all the people shaking their fists and asking for violence, if you noticed, they were all Democrats.

Oh, you had Nancy Pelosi.

You had, what's her name, Waters, you had

each and every one of them.

You had Rick,

what's his name?

The guy who called for the Assembly.

The Lincoln Project, whatever.

Rick Wilson.

You had everybody and their sister in that clip series that you played.

You can play it again.

Don't.

was all Democrats.

They're all Democrats.

Leftists, including news people.

I don't even think they were even that left much leftist.

They were all Democrats.

I mean,

you could call a Democrat a leftist, but I think they're just Democrats.

Okay.

I call them Marxists, socialists.

I just don't see Nancy Pelosi being a Marxist.

She's a pure capitalist.

Okay.

But she's a Democrat, and she was one of the people in there in that clip series.

Let's go to three.

And Michael, I've seen cancel culture and violence rise at universities carried out against conservative speakers.

Do you expect what happened today to bring about serious change in this regard?

Hold on a second.

Did I get the right one?

Is that clip three?

Yeah, I think so.

Well, the question will be what kind of change can it bring about?

Can, you know, do one or two two things.

Can it silence conservatives?

Absolutely not.

I think you're going to see more voices that are going to rise up and take the place of what Charlie was doing such an effective job of doing.

The second question is, can we provide better security?

Well, you can provide better security if you're keeping those conservative speakers in an enclosed area, i.e.

an auditorium where you can check people coming in, check people coming out, making sure there are no...

terrorists or sniper shots that could be done from vantage buildings.

But that's not the case.

That was never Charlie style.

And that's really not the style of conservative America.

They want to be able to express their opinions where people can be heard.

And that's on the streets, on the sidewalks.

And as long as that takes place, it's very hard to continue to provide additional security measures.

So I think you're going to see an increase in this.

I think you're going to see an increase in conservative voices being heard.

And until we, from the intelligence community and a law enforcement standpoint, pinpoint the source of all this and deal with this leadership and bring it to justice, it's going to get worse, not better.

Baffling to me is how Charlie Kirk was one of the most guarded people in America.

I mean, he had all kinds of security measures.

How could they have missed this?

It's like, wow, this seems like a no-brainer, this one.

Well, they did talk about most of these talk show guys,

especially on Fox, they discussed this in great detail.

And

the

final result was that you can, you know, he had a contingent of pros, and there were some campus police involved, but they didn't, it wasn't, they all concluded it wasn't at the level of the Secret Service where they would do the checks of the buildings and have, you know, counter snipers because Charlie didn't have that.

And it was just all personal protection for that, you know, being, you know, the entourage type protection for uh

for for close-in assaults, no one ever you know considered a shot from well, that's but that's what I mean.

It's like if you're in the business of securing somebody who's getting constant death threats, and like, oh, we didn't think of that.

Well, I know, I'm not going to argue about that, but but at the same time, the irony to this is that

maybe they do think about that, but in Orem, Utah,

Lily White, super conservative, no crime area of the country, probably Mac to the Macs.

Perfect location.

Perfect location.

Perfect location.

That's my point.

You're making it for me.

That's my point.

Perfect location.

It is the perfect location, but it's also the perfect place for you to drop your guard.

Yes.

That's what I mean.

Unprofessional.

Well, I don't know if it's, yeah, well, it's natural.

Maybe it's unprofessional if you're completely paranoid.

But he should have done it inside in that regard, if that was the case.

But yeah, yeah.

And the guy's on the loose.

Anyway, this is the last clip.

And when we talk about accountability here, who do you think authorities are going to look at to figure out what were the events that led up to something like this?

Well, I think you've got a number of factors to look at.

First of all, a good old adage from a law enforcement standpoint.

Where's the money?

Go to the money trail.

Follow the money.

Follow the paper.

Yes.

And so who's financing these?

Who's financing the ability for this to transpire?

You know, it's not cheap for long-range rivals.

It's not cheap to plan the logistics and these kind of things.

So find out where the funding sources are coming from.

Second of all, find out what the players are.

You're not going to get somebody just fresh off the street to do this.

This took a professional, somebody who knew what he was doing and who knew how to handle the accuracy of that fire weapon.

So those are the kind of issues that we're going to have to look for.

Find out who is in the process of organizing and already has been organized for that matter.

And by being already organized, they're using their resources to try to counter conservative message, to try to bring forth a revolution, shall we say, of liberalism and liberal ideas.

Those are the ones you want to target and investigate.

You'll find your answers when you go there.

Ah, well, he makes a very good point.

A revolution of sorts.

Yes.

Yes.

Seems right.

Seems right to follow the money and bust it up.

That's the simplest solution.

Yeah, and we i think we know where half the money's coming from where

soros

hmm

open soros i'm i'm i'm with glenn beck on this one the open society foundation because soros is practically dead himself that guy's well yeah but this foundation is he peopled it with you know he knew how to how to staff an office Let's just play this Kirk Report NPR kicker.

This is from NPR.

Hold on a second.

Conservative activist and Turning Point USA co-founder Charlie Kirk has died, shot at a college campus in Utah.

As NPR Stephen Fowler reports, the 31-year-old helped usher in an age of in-your-face conservative politics that resonated with young voters, especially young men.

Charlie Kirk was well known as an energizing speaker and organizer, getting young conservatives registered to vote and ultimately activating a key demographic for a party that has struggled with young people.

At 18, he co-founded Turning Point USA as a college campus free speech organization.

I had the crazy and wild idea, I want to try to start a youth organization to try and save Western civilization.

It evolved into an empire with annual summits, faith leader outreach, and successful media platforms.

Kirk was speaking at Utah Valley University at what was supposed to be the start of a 15-campus American comeback tour when he was shot.

Stephen Fowler in PR News.

Kirk was shot as he was taking questions from the audience about gun violence in the United States.

Wow.

Now

it's so rare.

The number of NPR clips that I've had where they finish off, I usually cut them short before the guy says, he signs off with I'm so-and-so with NPR, which the reporter did.

It is unbelievably rare that then all of a sudden the host kicks in an extra little tidbit.

That one is not rare for NPR.

They are just.

No, it's very rare for NPR to, I mean, that's their attitude, but to kick in the tidbit at the end when it's not in the main report is fairly rare, believe me, because this is one of my main things I'd clip from.

And when I heard that, what was the point?

Just to put a little

gun action in there, a little, oh, anti-gun stuff.

I just thought it was, I thought it was chicken shit, bad, you know, just bad.

Lie form.

It was a lie.

It was not

bad form.

And also, it was a lie.

And notice how they say he has died.

Not he was killed, he was murdered, he was assassinated.

He has died.

They're subtle, but that makes a difference.

Yeah, no, you're right.

That's a good catch.

And no, this is NPR.

This is the, you know, they just don't know.

And they're beside, I think the media somewhat, especially these guys,

the public media, is somewhat beside itself because it

doesn't know

how to handle this because it's like

they know they're the bad guys.

Do they?

Do they?

Do they really,

they think there's some when this has only now, I mean, once something like this happens, I don't think they generally know they're the bad guys, but I think when something like this happens, it kind of reminds them that they might be the bad guys.

And

so they, they, it's interesting to watch them because they position things differently than they normally do.

Now, do you consider Charlie Kirk's turning point to be a political organization or something else?

Well, Charlie, the way I see this, Charlie Kirk is one of those rare people that

had a genuine calling during college, quits.

Bill Gates is the same kind of guy.

Wow.

I really think so.

Not the current Bill Gates after he got pied in the face and it changed his personality,

but the original Bill Gates, he just saw something.

He had a vision, quit Harvard to start a software company, and became the world's richest man for a long period of time.

And Charlie Kirk was the same kind of guy.

I mean, for an 18-year-old to develop an operation that would result in him having private planes and

850 branches

around the country of Turning Point USA and a big headquarters and a well-organized structure.

His business was highly structured.

And for him himself to become one of the top, and the only way to describe him, I was thinking about this a few shows ago,

about people like Charlie Kirk,

which is not easy to do, but he's genuinely a polemicist.

And people should kind of look that up and note what that is.

And a polemicist is a type of debater that

is designed to always win the arguments and probably could argue from both sides.

And it's a skill set that is I've only seen a few people capable of.

Gore Vidal was one of the great polemicists on the left.

And Christopher Hitchens was a good one.

There's others out there that come and go, and they've been here and there.

William F.

Buckley, probably, even though he was kind of a show-off because he was more interested in expressing his vocabulary and showing it off.

But Kirk was one of the best.

And he had developed it, I think, largely through trial and error by doing a lot of these events with the students for the last 10 years.

And

who knows what his future was, but it was not going to be minor.

And

he was

this whole thing, if it was caused by

a trans issue, that's kind of a

like there should have been better reasons to shoot him.

Yeah, but that wasn't my question.

What was your question?

I lost track of it.

Do you consider Turning Point USA to be a political organization?

Yeah, I really do.

Have you ever seen a rally of Charlie Kirk's?

I've watched his stuff on video.

But he he wasn't there just shilling for Republicans or the Conservative Party.

Well, he wasn't shilling for anybody.

He was lecturing people.

Lecturing them on what?

On truth.

No, he was lecturing.

Well, there's that element.

But he was lecturing them on

countering the liberal ideas

that are

put to them.

They're a basis for thinking the way they do and countering countering it in a very effective way by confronting it and having public debates.

Right.

So, cultural,

cultural, because that's what he talked about.

All his answers were about cultural issues that he disagreed with.

And

as far as I can tell, what that turned into when Trump came along was, here's the guy you want to vote for.

But I'm pretty sure that this was a faith organization.

Well, you can say that, but the fact that the Trump administration and the Trump people themselves say if it wasn't for Charlie Kirk, they wouldn't have gotten the youth vote.

And Charlie Kirk was a big part of their campaign.

Yes.

So that seems political to me.

But that's not what the organization was.

I'm not disagreeing with you.

No, you asked me if what you asked me, and I answered what I answered.

Okay.

And I know you like to see it as just purely a church type of thing.

I don't see that.

No, not a church type of thing.

Although the outreach they had was to faith leaders everywhere.

That's really what they did.

And yes,

they also tried to install people everywhere in politics that had the same message, the same meaning, the same belief, for sure, which I think was a very good idea.

But to call this purely political, no.

No, I disagree.

Here's the actress, AOC, telling us what really is going on.

What one congresswoman was saying was yelling at Republican and said that it was Democrats' fault.

Democrats did this.

That's what we heard her say on the House floor.

I mean,

people can finger point all they want.

Look at the record.

Look at the actions of what we are doing.

I don't think a single person who has dedicated their entire career to preventing gun safety legislation from getting passed in this House has any right to blame anybody else but themselves for what is happening.

We have to stop this.

We can stop this.

And why don't we start by acknowledging that basic common sense gun safety legislation is not taking away a gun, is not attacking the Second Amendment, but it is about ensuring the safety of our children, of women, of people across this country to ensure that guns and firearms do not get in the hands of people who are going to use them against human beings, period.

Domestic violence is one of the highest indicators of whether a person is going to kill someone else with a gun or not.

There are so many other indicators,

you know, and I think it is so deeply important

that

when a politician tries to blame words for an action, they need to look at their action and their record.

We like enough of this.

This is horrific.

This is awful.

And the assassination of Charlie Kirk risks an uncorking of political chaos and violence that we cannot risk in America.

We cannot risk it.

It's amazing where she wasn't anywhere talking about the nut job who stabbed that girl, that young woman, to death on the train.

Yeah, with a penknife.

One of the highest indicators is not domestic violence.

It's someone who's been in jail 14 times and thought voices were talking to him.

him.

From what I understand, the court records show they arrested that guy

for repeatedly misusing 9-11.

And in January, his January arrest record states he responded to officers during a welfare check that he believed someone gave him man-made material that was inside his body controlling what he ate, walked, and talked.

Yeah, that's the latest.

That's an indicator of someone who's a mistake.

Yeah, it was an indicator that we do need to reopen some of these insane asylums.

Yes, that was definitely.

We have one in Kerrville.

Stack it.

Here's Chicago, Illinois governor J.B.

Pritzker, who, of course, blames this on Trump.

My sympathy to Charlie Kirk's family and to Charlie Kirk, who obviously

has, you know,

become a target for somebody.

I don't know whether it's political violence because I don't know who did it.

I know they seem to have somebody in custody.

But I will say that political violence, unfortunately, has been ratcheting up in this country.

We saw the shootings, the killings in Minnesota.

We've seen other political violence occur in other states.

And I would just say it's got to stop.

And I think there are people who are fomenting it in this country.

I think the president's rhetoric often foments it.

We've seen the January 6th rioters who clearly

have

tripped

a new era of political violence.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

This is another one for the list.

Put that guy on the list.

Anyway, in conclusion,

this seemed way too professional to me.

Neck shot from the roof, bolt action sniper rifle, no trace of the perpetrator.

Some, okay, we have a picture, boohoo.

Now we have transgender anti-fascist markings on the shell case casings it says i only

hurt yes but that's my point we found the we found the hijacker's passport this smells

this smells of some not just some transgender nut job no

that doesn't just no

nothing about that feels right

so anyway well the guy could have been hired yeah i mean the job was follow Follow the money.

Follow the money.

Exactly what that guy said.

Yeah.

I think following the money is the only way to go.

And they're going to have to, they're going to have to descend.

Yeah.

They got to, they got to try to follow the money.

This is being orchestrated.

We've noticed this before, but it's worldwide.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it is.

And what you want to do is you want to take this.

group of people that didn't even exist 10 years ago, not the way it exists today, and you want to blame it on them.

It's almost like

Mo's prophecy of, oh, blame it all on the black women.

You know, it's like, hype them up, and we'll blame it on them.

That's what it feels like.

It's always a distinct possibility.

Of course, now we have.

You brought up the

issues like, or Europe is subject to this.

What is you think is going on with France?

Well, I have two clips.

What's going on with France is they are sick of

their government talking about sending them to war against Russia and taking that money to arm up the country and the European Union and not give them the socialist stuff they want

and their 38-hour work week.

That's why they're mad.

France Falls.

100,000 people were expected to join the demonstrations, which aimed to block highways and parts of France's public infrastructure.

Outgoing Interior Minister Bruno Rotayou said 80,000 security forces had been deployed across the country.

In Paris, a fire broke out in a building and several firefighters were sent to the scene.

Demonstrators voiced frustration after President Macron appointed a new prime minister on Monday, the fifth since his second term began in 2022.

Mr.

Macron doesn't seem to understand that this is not just a clash of heads.

We have them, but that's what politics is.

We want it to be said clearly.

His agenda is against France, against the French, against the people.

For example, look at the situation in the hospitals.

They can't cope anymore.

Many people are losing their jobs.

I work in education.

I see teachers losing their jobs, something I've never witnessed before.

We can't take it anymore.

We are facing a very deep social crisis.

I believe that today there is enormous anger among the people.

I spoke with a nursery worker who is furious.

She earns 1,600 euros but pays 800 euros in rent.

She is raising her daughter alone.

I've made some research about what's happening.

To me, I realized that our future is at stake.

I had to come out to defend my future, to defend this society, and to defend my homeland.

If it continues like this, I honestly hope things change before I turn 40.

Is that an AI voiceover that I'm hearing there?

I can't tell.

This protest was scheduled in July and was highly anticipated in the country.

The Prime Minister decided to call a confidence vote two days before the demonstration in a move to reaffirm the French people's trust in his policies.

The move backfired against him and led to the fall of the government last Monday.

So, the way they start off the report is like, well, he put in a new prime minister they don't like.

That's the way it sounded to me.

Who did this report?

This was uh,

I think this was NTD.

Yeah, I think it was.

I don't have it, I didn't make a note.

I'm sorry.

Let's play part two.

However, the protest itself is dividing the French people.

The original call to demonstrate came from grassroots movements, much like the Yellow Vest movement, demanding lower taxes, but was later claimed by leftist political figures, which then turned it into a nationwide blockade led by unions and leftist groups.

The protest where I'm standing at the moment in Paris, as a main protest, it has been organized under the slogan Anti-Fascism and Anti-Ratism Bloc, which has little to do with the original poll to demonstrate.

So, while the protest shows a strong challenge to the government, it also reveals fractures among the French people.

The President appointed a close ally as his new Prime Minister, Sébastien Le Cornu, who took office on Wednesday, facing the same challenge to reign in France's ballooning death as his predecessor, David Vives, NTD News, Paris.

Oh,

that's interesting.

So he said, oh, well, the leftists are doing it, which is their word for Democrats.

But CBC had a short, very clear report on what the problem is.

Protesters and police clashed in cities across France today.

Police in Montpellier used water cannons and tear gas to clear demonstrators.

Protesters, angry about austerity measures, obstructed highways, set fires, and barred access to some schools and offices.

They're part of a massive online movement called Block Everything.

Demonstrators say defense policies eat up public funds that should be used for hospitals and schools.

Nearly 300 protesters were arrested.

Ah, Block Everything.

Where have I heard this before?

The French are kick-ass when it comes to protests.

I mean, I still still remember some years ago during this show era where

farmers were burked about something and they backed up these giant combines and had

these things that would spray manure

onto the protest.

Well, they've been doing that with the farmer protests.

Yeah, they spray manure onto the parliament building from a distance.

Well, this is quite creative.

This sounds a lot like Black Out the System.

Have you heard of it?

Yeah, which is coming on the 17th, which I think is going to be a huge dud.

Oh, no, it'll be nothing, but nice webpage they put together with absolutely no information about who they are.

We're not asking.

We're shutting it down.

The largest economic blackout of protest in U.S.

history.

Blackoutthesystem.com.

And so they have,

so it's speaking out against injustice.

That would be minorities.

Unity and the power of the people, that would be Marxist-socialist, winning together.

Well, you know what that means.

Why we black out the system?

We are done funding our own oppression.

We are done being silent while the system exploits us.

They're funding it?

I didn't realize they were funding it.

Divides us and works against us.

This movement is peaceful, but it's powerful.

We are using the greatest leverage we have, our unity and economic power.

They say they have no money, but to bring the system down to its knees.

No to dictatorship, no to corporate greed, no to blind obedience, no to racism and oppression, and no to fascism.

They forgot no to Trump

and no to everything America stands for.

Yes, but there's no,

there's no, uh,

here, here's what you should do: adjust your W-4.

Check your taxes.

Every paycheck, they take more than you owe, then give it back without interest at tax time.

Adjust your W-4 so you keep more in your pocket now instead of letting them use it all year.

Okay.

Starve the corporations.

Remove and withdraw your money from the banks.

Banks lend your money to corporations that, what do they want?

That purchase here, banks.

I'm looking at this website.

By the way, it's got a lot of JavaScript.

Things are flying around.

It's pretty well done.

I've told you.

Banks lend your money to corporations that purchase politicians who make policies against the people.

Regional credit unions are a better option.

Well,

we've been for that.

Cancel subscriptions.

Anything unnecessary, cut it.

Put your money back in your pockets and drive a wedge between your resources and their products and spread the word.

This is from the.

I mean, why didn't they just put it on their Socialist Party of America?

Oh, it is definitely a Socialist Party thing.

But then, but there's nothing.

And become a partner.

There's no donation place, no donation thing,

which is odd.

Usually, you know,

back blue.

Usually you're using blue on something there.

So this is something out the blackout pledge.

Okay.

But yeah, so that's a move.

And I'd say that's a global socialist move.

Well, it's, yeah, and it's global because right at the bottom it says 50 states participating, 28 countries.

Oh, there you go.

Supporting.

So

what 28 countries?

What are we talking about here?

Why?

Well, they have a handy.

million engagement activity, 100% committed team, which we don't even see.

Who's this team?

We don't know.

We don't know who this team is.

Is there a link to the team?

Oh, link to the wall of stolen wages.

Welcome to the wall of stolen wages.

We're stealing.

Oh, okay.

Somehow, they're being stolen.

I get it.

A lot of unhappy people.

Very happy.

No, these people aren't unhappy.

They're happy.

I don't know if they're happy.

I really don't.

I think they're happy.

I don't think so.

All right, so I think you have a couple clips as well.

This Israel targeting Hamas in Qatar.

Demanding an end to Israel's war in Gaza, demonstrators shouted angrily at Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as his vehicle made its way through a crowd north of Tel Aviv.

Netanyahu making clear today nothing has changed in his mind after yesterday's stunning Israeli strike into Qatar, targeting the leadership of Hamas.

And I say to Qatar and all nations who harbor terrorists, what

targeting and missing

in his mind after yesterday's stunning Israeli strike into Qatar, targeting the leadership of Hamas.

And I say to Qatar and all nations who harbor terrorists, you either expel them or you bring them to justice.

Because if you don't,

we will.

yesterday's strike which caught even the United States off guard left a number of Hamas members dead though Hamas says its leadership survived but the attack has upended attempts at a ceasefire to the nearly two-year war and it's reinvigorated pushback against Israel Europe needs to do more In Strasbourg, France today, European Union Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.

We will propose propose sanctions on the extremist ministers and on violent settlers, and we will also propose a partial suspension of the Association Agreement on trade-related matters.

Straight condemnation for the strike into Qatar meanwhile continued on a number of other fronts.

Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia,

we reject and condemn Israel's aggressions on Qatar, said Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, adding,

this attack requires an Arab, Islamic, and international response to confront such aggression.

We stand with Qatar.

Very.

We don't even like Qatar.

Very.

What's that?

The Saudis don't even like Qatar.

So do we know that Trump didn't give the

go-ahead behind the scenes?

Well, he said, what's plausible deniability and has nothing to do with this as I didn't?

Well, I don't know what this guy's because because this guy's nuts.

Well, President Trump said he did not know about it until briefly before and then told the Qataris that it was coming.

That's the official word.

From Boots on the Ground in Doha,

local concern about this was about sovereignty, not about Hamas leadership.

Nobody here cares or likes Hamas.

Qatar just agreed to, this is boots on the ground, just agreed to try to mediate knowing Hamas is insincere in all talks.

And also, note that not one country has suggested pulling out of the Abram Accords with Israel since the war began, nor do they care about the attack on Iran.

So this is again from Qatar.

Separately, a significant number of those reported killed in Gaza are Hamas fighters and family members.

In general,

there's indifference towards death outside the Western world.

That's probably true.

Maybe they look at death differently than we do.

We see it as kind of crappy.

Well, you know, there wasn't a great the pro the reason Trump has to stay completely

plausible deniability position, he needs to be in that position because the United States is the one who set up Qatar to be the Doha, you know, where you have the Hamas can be there so we can do negotiations with them and they can be safe.

Well, right.

It looks pretty bad.

But they haven't done any negotiations, so let's bomb the hell out of them or kill them while they're there.

I, this whole thing is very suspect.

Oh, so you think Trump knew?

I do think he knew

because I've sticked with the thing that we're running Israel, they're not running us.

No,

I don't think they're running.

If anything, I think they, this is why I think they may have gone too far.

I

just don't see it.

Well, let's see, this France 24 report has, I think, something about it.

Mediation in Qatari diplomacy is part of our identity and will continue.

Nothing will deter us from carrying out this role.

Does the world ever need a clearer message than this?

Who is closing the door to peace?

Does the international community need a louder signal?

Who is the bully in this region?

Hamas, who were discussing the Trump administration's latest ceasefire proposal in Doha when they were struck, said their targeting showed Israel didn't want to reach an agreement.

Meanwhile, Israeli hostage family members expressed alarm that the attack sabotaged any hope for those still being held by Hamas.

President Trump, meanwhile, attempted damage control, issuing a rare rebuke to Israel and calling Qatar, which is home to the largest American military base in the Middle East, a strong U.S.

ally and friend.

Arab countries are increasingly concerned about Israel's belligerence, and the attack risks undermining U.S.

credibility in the region.

I think this is the final nail in the coffin of any kind of negotiations that is taking place between Israel and Hamas as far as it is mediated by Qatar.

Qatar has always been the diplomatic channel of these negotiations and it does not intend to pay a direct price by playing this role.

And if that's

that is obviously the kind of consequence that also Netanyahu and the Israeli government probably expect to happen.

On Wednesday, Israel warned that its enemies were not safe anywhere, and that if it hadn't succeeded in killing Hamas leaders this time, it would the next.

Yeah, it just seems like it's our negotiators, it's our idea, it's our proposal.

We've got a base there, and then Trump's going to go, yeah, okay, go ahead, kill him, and then they don't kill him?

Well, that's the thing that probably irked Trump.

And Trump didn't go ahead and say that.

Like I said, he's in a position of plausible deniability.

No, he didn't.

He's got nothing to do with it.

Trump is a politician at this point in his life, and this sort of thing can go on.

So

what was the end game?

What was the benefit?

Well, we've given up.

The end game is that we've given up

on dealing with Hamas.

Hamas is just either us to be completely wiped out, or it's just an impasse.

They won't negotiate with good faith.

And

the negotiations they lie.

They're just a terrible group of people, and the Palestinians support them.

There's nothing,

they're just going to have to let this play out.

I don't know.

It's beyond me.

I think it's beyond Trump.

It's beyond everybody.

Well, for sure.

Well, they kept Iran out of it, and maybe that'll, maybe that'll help.

Yeah, maybe.

You got anything?

I think I may have a

ICC rebuke.

Oh, well, this is different.

This is from this is actually a clip.

This started a while ago.

The ICC is going after Netanyahu, which is there may be something here that applies.

Let's play this clip.

Israel released footage on Wednesday of terrorists fleeing as an Israeli tank approached them in the Gaza Strip.

Many of them attempted to take cover in this tunnel entrance, but Israel struck the area before one of the terrorists was able to make it inside.

Israel also released an infographic showing where they established security zones along the Gaza Strip border.

And after Operation Gideon's chariots, they increased that security zone, and Israel now controls about 75% of the Gaza Strip.

A spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces said that Operation Gideon's Chariots enabled them to increase operations in Gaza's largest city.

We will deepen the damage to Hamas in Gaza City, a stronghold of governmental and military terror for the terrorist organization.

We are not waiting.

We have begun the preliminary actions, and already now, IDF troops are holding the outskirts of Gaza City.

On Wednesday, Israel said they were calling up 60,000 reservists to report for duty and that they were extending current orders for 20,000 reservists who were already deployed.

Meanwhile, the Israeli government gave the final approval for plans to begin construction of a new settlement east of Jerusalem.

Thousands of homes are expected to be built in an area that would nearly divide the West Bank into two parts.

An Israeli official said the new settlement would, quote, bury the idea of a Palestinian state.

A representative of the Bedouin community in the West Bank said they received demolition orders for buildings in the area about a week ago.

And he called on the international community to prevent Israel from establishing the new settlement in the West Bank.

And in another development, the U.S.

Department of State issued further sanctions against two judges and two deputy prosecutors belonging to the International Criminal Court, which is supported by the United Nations.

What a waste of money that thing is.

No one cares.

No one adheres to your stupid court.

International Criminal Court.

Well, they're always hoping it takes hold.

Yeah.

How long has that been?

30 years they've been trying for forever.

No one cares about it.

There's a second part to this.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said: quote: The court is a national security threat that has been an instrument for lawfare against the United States and for our close ally, Israel.

The decision comes after the court issued arrest warrants for Israeli officials over the war in the Gaza Strip.

And Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in a post on X praised the U.S.

decision and accused the court of conducting a smear campaign against Israel and the Israel Defense Forces.

On the other hand, the United Nations said the sanctions, quote, undermine the foundation of international justice.

Ooh, international justice.

Yeah, there's international justice in the world.

The international part is the problem.

Yeah, there's no international nothing.

It's all men, everyone for himself at the end of the day.

So I've been.

Well,

that's not the plan.

No, that's not the plan.

But the New World Order is not coming to fruition the way they ever wanted it to.

They've been trying that all my life, too.

Oh, the New World Order.

Here it comes.

Yes.

And the Antichrist is arising.

Yes.

So I've been following this story in Germany, and

there was really no

clips or anything on it.

This is about the sudden deaths of many of the AFD alternatives for Deutschland.

Oh, yes.

This is a story, then there's got to be some clips on this.

And all of a sudden, all of a sudden.

Well, all of a sudden is not entirely true, but yeah, okay.

Well, all of a sudden, kind of.

You know, over time, they've been taking out these AFD guys.

Yeah.

Well, one after the other.

What do you think?

Well, let's listen to the Euronews Verify.

Verifies.

Without evidence, verify.

As many as six candidates for the far-right Alternative for Germany party have died in recent weeks ahead of local elections in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia.

And it's prompted unfounded suspicions on social media.

On September the 14th, district, municipal, and city councils, as well as some mayors, will be elected in the western German state, with a reported 20,000 candidates running for office.

Police have ruled out any foul play in relation to these six deaths.

The causes range from serious pre-existing conditions to suicide.

A senior official from Alternative for Germany itself has also dismissed speculation that these deaths were in any way intentional.

But there have also been clear attempts to sow conspiracy and suspicions.

The party's leader, Alice Weidel, shared a post on X where another user describes the death toll as statistically almost impossible.

This theory has been amplified on social media and by controversial public figures.

Here, British far-right activist Tommy Robinson asks, what's going on?

And the billionaire owner of X, Elon Musk, comments, weird.

Conservative publications have also misleadingly described the deaths as mysterious or unexpected.

The North Ryan-Westphalia Ministry of the Interior has said that candidates from other parties have also died in the electoral campaign, but that these deaths have not sparked the same and founded suspicions.

The deaths do mean that ballot papers issued in certain constituencies, as well as some mail-in votes, are now invalid.

It also means the party will have to nominate new candidates to replace the deceased.

So,

my takeaway from this, in the most vaccinated country in Europe, pretty much, locked down like dogs forever,

20,000 candidates.

It's not like the national parliament elections here.

This is all small elections all over the country.

The suicide one I'd like to know more about,

but you know, 20,000

people die.

I'm a little less suspicious than I was.

Oh, so you think it's just a bunch of vax deaths?

Yeah, probably.

And, you know, it's clickbait.

It's good clickbait.

Elon Musk, weird.

Hmm.

Weird.

Weird.

Stay on X.

What a comment.

Stay on X.

It's weird.

Yes, it's very, very weird.

And we also got a.

This was kind of fun.

This is about the GPS jamming of Queen Ursula's jet, which I think we pretty much pulled apart for you on the last show.

They do the same here, but yeah, they got to leave some doubt in the verify segment from Euronews.

Reports that European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen's plane was targeted by Russian GPS jamming as she traveled to the Bulgarian city of Plovdiv on the 31st of August, have sparked major speculation.

The Financial Times first broke the story on the 1st of September, reporting that von der Leyen's plane circled Plovdiv airport for an hour using paper maps to land.

We have received uh uh information from the Bulgarian authorities uh that uh they suspect uh that mm this was due to blatant interference by uh Russia.

Days later, on the fourth of September, Bulgaria's Deputy Prime Minister Gorzhan Karazhdov denied that the government had submitted any information about Russian interference to the European Commission.

In an apparent attempt to backpedal on those initial claims, the country's Prime Minister Rosen Zelyazkov said there was no evidence of prolonged interference or jamming of the GPS signal around Plovdiv airport.

The Prime Minister later said that although no jamming had been detected by ground instruments, this didn't exclude the possibility of on-board fighters detecting jamming.

Analysts from Flight Radar 24 told Euroverify that according to their data, the aircraft maintained a good GPS signal throughout the flight.

Their data also contradicted the Financial Times assertion that the aircraft circled Plovdiv for an hour, as flight records reveal that the aircraft landed only a few minutes late.

Although there are a plethora of doubts surrounding this incident, Moscow has intensified GPS jamming targets from planes and ships since it launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, primarily targeting the area surrounding the Baltic Sea.

Right.

So I play these back to back because if I don't believe one, why would I believe the other?

What horse crap that is, verify?

Well, you know, there's no evidence, and the GPS data shows through ADSB that there's no evidence, but, you know, Russia's been doing this.

They want war so bad.

Please give us war, whatever you do.

Well, it'll straighten out the French economy.

Oh, it'll.

Oh,

they need it for that very reason.

Germany has, everything's kaput, to speak in a good German word, kaput.

S is kaput.

They've got no energy.

They got no industry.

They've turned the car factories into building tanks and planes and other stuff.

They need this war,

which, of course, puts this Russian drones in Poland into a

suspicious light.

And Nathan, we have more geopolitical news this morning related to the war in Ukraine.

Poland has shot down drones that crossed into into its territory during a Russian airstrike on Ukraine.

The Polish military calling it an act of aggression, and the country's premier is asking NATO allies for support.

Bloomberg Daybreak Europe anchor Stephen Carroll is in Brussels and joins us live with the details.

Good morning, Stephen.

Good morning, Karen and Nathan.

Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk says his country's airspace was violated by a huge number of Russian drones in the early hours of this morning.

Airports were closed for several hours while citizens in the east were told to stay indoors.

It's the first time the NATO member has shot down military aircraft that have strayed into its airspace since the start of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

The EU's Foreign Affairs Chief, Kaya Kallas, says the incursion appears to be intentional.

The Polish Prime Minister has asked NATO to invoke Article 4 of its treaty, which triggers consultations on a military response.

Oh no, Article 4, we're DEF CON 4.

Oh boy, what does Queen Ursula have to say?

We have seen a reckless and unprecedented violation

of Poland and Europe's airspace by more than 10 Russian Shahid drones.

Shahid, Europe stands in full solidarity with Poland.

Yeah, war!

Woo!

We can do it!

Come on, everybody!

We got Article 4!

Article 4, and we're just one away from far.

One away.

One away.

I think they'll drag us our ass into the whole thing.

Well, that's what they want for sure.

I have drones in Poland clip to see if there's anything different.

Okay, drones in Poland.

Russian drones reportedly entered Polish airspace on Wednesday.

Poland says it shut them down with the backing of military aircraft from its NATO allies.

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk says it's the closest the country has been to open conflict since World War II.

We are most likely dealing with a large-scale provocation.

But at the same time, we are in consultation with our allies.

I am in constant contact with the NATO Secretary General.

Prime Minister activated Article 4 of NATO's treaty, under which Alliance.

Wow, nice way.

He activated Article 4.

Is there like a button that he has to push?

Hello, everybody.

I am Mark Ruta.

I'm activating Article 4.

Contact with the NATO Secretary General.

Prime Minister activated Article 4 of NATO's treaty, under which Alliance members can demand consultation with their allies.

The head of NATO says the organization is still assessing the situation.

A full assessment of the incident is ongoing.

Ongoing.

What is clear is that the violation last night is not an isolated incident.

It's not isolated because of that other drone that they that they the Ukrainian

actually said was not a rush not was not from Russia

that remember that that was just two weeks ago

yeah the r the even the ukrainians say nah that wasn't from russia but it's ongoing engage article four

what is clear is that the violation last night is not an isolated incident.

Russia meanwhile denies the allegations.

The country's Defense Ministry issued a statement saying its drones carried out a major attack on military facilities in western Ukraine, adding that it had not planned to hit any targets in Poland.

But Poland's Minister of Foreign Affairs says he doesn't believe that, warning of possible escalation.

Even though NATO is not at war, Russian aggression strikes beyond Ukraine.

The United Nations is now warning of a possible wider conflict.

The regional impact and real risk of expansion of this devastating conflict.

The incident comes just a few days after a meeting between President Trump and the President of Poland.

Some U.S.

troops are stationed in Poland.

During the meeting, Trump was asked if the soldiers are scheduled to stay there.

If anything, we have we'll put more there if they want, but

they've long wanted to have a larger presence.

We have some countries that have more, not too many, but know that he's staying in Poland.

We're very much aligned with Poland.

The report goes on.

But wasn't Trump the guy wanting to get all these guys out of the world?

You know, we had these bases everywhere.

What happened to that?

Well, he's selling all the stuff now.

That's what he's doing.

I have a couple of clips from our guy analyzing this.

Oh, your buddy.

Yes, right.

The Canadian guy.

The Canadian, Andrew Soulis.

What do you make of Russia's actions?

Do you believe that this was intentional, or as Belarus says, it was all an accident?

It could be a combination of the two, really.

I think we have to look at what's happening strategically.

The Russians are mounting the beginning of their fall offensive.

They have decided that they will not be able to reach a compromise deal, a deal that is in their favor with the Ukrainians through any kind of negotiation at present.

So they are now on a war path.

They are now increasing their war effort against Ukraine, both in the ground and in the air.

And this was a continual range of large-scale attacks against Ukraine.

Now, the question is, were these missiles, which sometimes do fly close to the Polish border in order to hit western Ukraine, was this, as the Belarusians are saying, a jamming exercise?

Because they would be, Ukrainians would be jamming them.

So that's a possibility.

We'll have to see what the investigations are.

The other one, you know, if we want to speculate, is the Russians are continuing to signal to NATO and Western countries that, you know, don't think about putting boots on the ground in Ukraine because we're prepared to take you on.

So that's a more aggressive interpretation.

I'm not saying that's what it is, but it could be to show, look, we're going to test your air defenses in case one day we may have to fight you if you put your boots on the ground, which we've told you not to do.

So this is, I think, what's going on here.

We don't know the ground truth yet, but the investigations hopefully will reveal that.

I find the coincidence of Ursula clearly lying about GPS jamming, and now, well, the Ukrainians might have been.

It's just there's too much jamming talk going on.

You know?

I agree.

And the thing that might also be going on, because it's doable,

is that you can...

If you can figure out what these signals are that are

take control of the drones and then drive them over to Poland and drop them in a bunch of fields is just basically what happened yeah well here's um here he's talking about Article 4 we've engaged Article 4 so tell us more then about NATO's actions moving forward as we mentioned Poland is on high alert they have triggered now Article 4 which means an emergency meeting of NATO allies which of course includes the United States President Trump what will happen do you think next

Well, this is all about firming up NATO's eastern defense of its territories, the Eastern Flank, which of course includes Canada.

Canada has the brigade in Latvia, for example, very close to all of this.

So this means that NATO is taking now whatever steps are necessary to beef up its air defenses and its ground defenses as well.

But really, now we're talking air defense systems in case there are any further incursions.

So it's a bit of a ramp-up.

This is not a panic, but this is Article 4, which has now been activated, is a consultative mechanism.

It's been activated a few times before.

It is a logical stepstone, part of a controlled escalation or counter-escalation, if you will.

And so we'll have to wait and see, but everything is under control right now.

It's interesting.

It's tense, but under control.

I feel so much more comfortable when he says that.

Everything's okay.

Article 4 is just a Zoom meeting, people.

Don't get your panties in a bunch.

We're just going to have this little colour.

That's exactly what he said.

But he also said it's been implemented before.

I'd like to know when.

Oh, that's a good question.

I mean, that's the first thing I'd ask.

Oh, it's been implemented before under what circumstances?

I think in 2022.

Well, you think.

No, I'm pretty sure.

2022, Article 4.

I'm pretty sure.

Just before.

She asked your friend, your buddy, your error.

She would probably know if you asked her.

I would say the question would be, how many times has Article 4 been implemented by NATO and when?

How many times has Article 4 been implemented?

Oh, voice connection lost.

Hold on.

Okay.

How many times has Article 4 been implemented by NATO and when?

NATO's Article 4 has been invoked eight times total since 1949.

Here's the rundown.

First in 2003 over Iraq's security concerns, then Turkey in 2003 for Cyprus, again Turkey in 2006 amid Israeli-Lebanon tensions, Romania and others in 2008 after Russia's Georgia invasion, Poland in 2014 during Ukraine's crisis, multiple allies like Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovakia in February 2022 post-Russia's Ukraine attack, and most recently, Poland yesterday, September 10th, 2025, over those Russian drone incursions.

Each one's basically a heads-up for talks, not full-on action.

What's with the breathiness?

Boy, that was a good report.

I'm going to give her a 10.

You can moan and groan about her breathiness, but I ain't giving her 10 points for that.

That

took care of it.

But she didn't say 2022, did she?

I didn't hear her say that.

Yeah, she did right.

Yes, she did.

Okay, 2022.

She had it covered.

It was, it was great.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

Impressed.

Oh, no.

Here's the final clip.

So the question is, of course, what are the options if it was intentional?

If it is determined through an investigation

that this was intentional, then what does NATO do?

And actually, Andrew, can that be determined?

I'm not an expert

on these systems and how they look at their guidance systems, but they have the pieces in Poland.

So the experts will look at it and they will make some kind of determination.

There's also radar, the flight plans.

You know, you can say these systems, the Russians are saying systems were not long-range, they couldn't have reached

Ukrainian territory.

They had to be like the way they were going.

That's what they were deflected.

I mean, that's an argument, right?

So the experts will look at flight plans.

They will look at the actual substance of the drones that they have found in Poland and try to put together a piece.

So So I will not stay away from the technical analysis, but on military, political, military point of view, NATO will take this as a need to strengthen its defenses and remain on guard.

But this is...

Huh?

Strengthen its defenses by spending money.

Oh, well, of course, that's what it's always about.

So I will not stay away from the technical analysis, but on military, political, military point of view, NATO will take this as a need to strengthen its defenses and remain on guard.

But this is not to go to war with Russia because Russia clearly at this point for sure is not going to war with Poland and NATO.

So we're not at that level at all.

But we are playing aggressive because of the war in Ukraine.

We come back.

This is all about Russia trying to defeat the Ukrainians in a substantial way to get what they want from Ukraine.

Presumably, I think by 2025, the end of the year, the Russians are really putting on the pressure now.

Putin is not serious at all about a ceasefire, and he actually made that point to Trump in Alaska.

He wanted a peace settlement first before a ceasefire.

That's very clear from the Russian position.

Now, what does that mean?

That means the Russians want a peace settlement on terms favorable to their objectives.

And until they get that, Ukrainians are saying no.

So the Russians are saying, well, then more war until we can convince you, the Ukrainians, through military action, to come our way.

It's a knockum-sockum war right now to see who prevails.

Knock'em-sockum.

Rock'em-sock'em robots, everybody.

Yeah.

Well, the significance of Poland is not lost on me, historically speaking.

You know, when Germany invaded Poland.

Oh, yeah.

That started World War II, in essence.

Well, of course, what would always be good is we could have a nice little World War I assassination of some duke somewhere.

They don't need much.

They really don't need much.

And America always enters late into these things.

We weren't there at the beginning of World War I, World War II.

No, we were late on both.

Now, in this case,

be careful of the, be wary of the military-industrial complex.

Follow that money.

And especially with drones, Eric Schmidt.

You know, who's controlling the drone?

Who knows how to control other people's drone?

This whole drone thing is that.

I think the drone warfare, with the taking control of other people's drones through espionage, you can find out what their codes are, I'm sure.

You could get in.

I think that's a bigger threat than the drones themselves.

Yes.

Well, the whole drone thing is just no good.

But can you imagine just even

one of these air shows where you have all the drones that make the designs in the sky?

They're pretty spectacular.

And taking control of that and then driving those, you know, 10 or 20 or 30,000 drones into the crowd.

This is what you're imagining.

And also,

what is never really well explained is these drones.

I mean,

what size are they?

Are these ones?

Yes.

Well,

they said they were the Shahids.

Shahids.

Okay.

Picture of the Shah.

In the report.

That's an Iranian drone?

Yeah, it's an Iranian drone.

So let me see what that was.

That's what they said.

Right.

Well, of course.

We have to.

Oh, that's one of those Delta Wing deals.

Oh, that's the Shahid.

Oh, that's the good-looking one.

It's a very handsome drone.

Handsome drone.

And the other report I heard about these drones was that they don't know that they were armed.

They say they've maybe not been armed, which would lead credence to the analysis that the Russians were just testing the,

which leads credence that the Russians did it on purpose and just to test the air defenses.

That's a possibility.

Man, what kind of world war do you have when everyone's just using drones on each other?

No, it's not going to be, it's going to be unpleasant.

Every war that there's been so far, the big ones, all of them.

Well, they've all been unpleasant.

None of them are.

Well, they've all been unpleasant, but they've all, you know, they've gone from the, you know, these things that the catapults to

crossbows to

different kinds of

flanks,

phalanx designed attacks, horses with stirrups.

I mean, every little increase in technology, how minor it might be, always results in a war to test it out.

Ah, exactly.

There it is.

Yeah, it's a show.

It's basically an air show.

Well, it takes care of a number of problems.

When you get rid of a bunch of people because you want population control because you're duts.

And the other thing is that it improves your economy.

It gets everybody on the same page.

It creates nationalism, which you need to keep your society going.

It's a win-win.

Yeah, well, isn't it all?

I say that facetiously, the win-win part, because it's not a win-win at all, but it's a win-win.

Aren't all wars basically banker wars?

Whenever we're in financial problems globally, isn't that when the wars usually start?

Well, I think if you go back in history,

the banker aspect was minor.

I think the bankers' benefit.

Modern history.

I mean, well, there is a lot of discussion in the left-wing.

When I was going to a left-wing school at Berkeley,

they would discuss

the World War I

is a war that we shouldn't have not gotten involved in because it was a bankers' war.

It was the bankers of England that got us to join them

to turn the tide of the war, which we did.

To pay for it, to pay for it.

And to help finance it.

We're good at that.

And sure, that element was in play.

Right.

But if you just look at the financial situation of the world where

all money is fake and phony, all of it.

It's all fake, it's all just made up of derivatives of debt, debt, debt, debt, or credit, no matter which way, which is whatever side you're on.

I mean, how else can everybody get out of this hole?

We need a war reset.

That's your great reset right there.

Well, that would definitely take care of the deficit.

Yeah.

Sadly, but yeah.

Hmm.

Well, that's that's a good thought.

I'll take stablecoin over war any day.

Yeah, well, any day.

In fact, stablecoin may be part of the mechanism that creates the war.

Very possible, but I'm hopeful it isn't.

Yeah, well,

yeah, well, exactly.

Hey, by the way, another thing that is poorly covered, I can only get one of my favorite Indian voices to talk about it, is the uprising in Nepal.

Have you seen the mess that's going on there?

No, this one you got me.

Oh, yes.

Well, she pronounces it funny, but here we go.

It's chaos in the Himalayas.

The Taimika.

Himalayas.

Himalayas.

She said, Himalayas.

Chaos in the Himalayas.

It's chaos in the Himalayas.

The Taimi country of Nepal has been gripped by violence.

The parliament was on fire.

Ministers were thrashed on the streets.

The Supreme Court was torched.

And the capital of Kathmandu was overrun.

What?

This wasn't just a protest.

It was a total upheaval.

The biggest exit came around around noon today.

Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli announced his resignation.

He simply couldn't hang on.

Oli had unleashed a crackdown on Monday.

It was the worst in Nepal's recent history.

19 protesters were killed, plus at least 100 were injured.

And today the backlash was evident.

Thousands of protesters hit the streets of Nepal.

Oli's own private residence was torched.

The Prime Minister had no choice.

He announced his resignation later in the day.

He said he was quitting to allow a political solution to the crisis.

Soon afterwards, an army helicopter was seen over his house.

It ferried Oli away from the chaos.

To where?

Well, nobody knows yet.

But what exactly is the root of this crisis and how did it escalate so fast?

The trigger was a social media ban.

Last week, Khat Khanu blocked 26 online platforms, including Instagram and Facebook.

In response, thousands of young Nepalese hit the streets.

Now, Nepal, as you would know, is a young country.

Around 43% of the population is below 40 years of age.

So the protesters were largely Gen Z.

There you go.

I'm looking at the headlines here.

Why Gen Z has taken over the streets in Nepal?

Yeah.

Nepal protests, the Gen Z protests in Nepal urgent, or is organic or deep state regime change?

Oh, well,

there were a lot of professionally printed signs.

So that to me was like, uh-huh, okay.

But

blocking 26 social media sites, that's when people lose their crap.

That's what I keep telling you.

If you really want to upset Americans, you know.

Well, that's why Trump couldn't follow through with banning TikTok.

Yes.

He either killed their dogs.

He promised

back in 2019, he was going to ban TikTok.

Now, almost 10 years later.

No, you can't do that.

You can't do that.

Americans care about two things.

You win the election by saying...

They're eating the dogs.

That's how you win an election.

You lose if you take away their TikTok or anything for that matter.

Anything.

Right in time for the brand new Apple iPhones.

Apple unveiled new iPhones, AirPods, and watches today.

The new iPhone 17 has a faster chip, better scratch resistance,

and comes in new colors

at $799.

The Pro version has a new design, a better zoom, and a bigger battery, and it's the most expensive at $1,099.

And the new, brand new iPhone Air is a thinner version of the flagship iPhone.

It starts at $999.

The new Apple Watch Series 11 will be able to alert users to possible high blood pressure.

And new AirPods Pro 3 include heart rate sensing and improved noise cancellation.

All the new new products will be available September 19th.

Yeah, hello, 2015 called Apple.

They want their new iPhones back.

This company,

are they crazy?

They promised AI for a whole year and a half.

Oh, that's not coming.

We're not going to do that.

Oh, it's thin.

It's thin.

Yeah.

It's thin.

The actual weight of the iPhone 17 Air is the same weight as the iPhone 11.

Is that right?

Yeah, they've just packed more crap and made them big these phones are also huge

they're huge women can barely hold them in their hands anymore well the bigger they are the easier they are to steal yeah well that's that's true

uh but thing things are going crazy in technology

this this how crazy are they going well i'm glad you asked i have a two-parter about oracle and let's get a business update now with child pelgran beginning with uh Elon Musk briefly losing his position as the world's richest person.

That's right, Oliver.

It was brief, but it did happen on Wednesday.

Tech billionaire Larry Ellison

overtook Musk in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index after Oracle, the business software company he has a 41% stake in, saw its shares surge after releasing better-than-expected financial forecasts.

At one point, those shares rose more than 40% before closing the session up almost 36% at over $328 a share.

So that meant the 81-year-old shot up to the top of the rankings for a bit with a net worth much larger than the entire GDP of Nigeria this year, for instance.

But this Thursday, Musk, the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX, took his place back at the top of the rankings, dominated by the men that control the largest U.S.

tech firms, as you can see.

there like Mark Zuckerberg at Meta in third place, Bezos at Amazon, or Larry Page, one of the founders at Google.

Worth noting that Elo Ellison and Musk have a close relationship.

Some saying Ellison was a bit of a mentor to Musk, sitting on the board at Tesla for four years and providing financial assistance for Musk to buy Twitter in 2022.

They also share similar politics.

So,

first of all, the Robber Barons, a clear list.

There you go.

It's all tech guys.

But this Oracle's share surging was mania.

This is the second part of the report.

So, what was behind this sudden surge in Oracle's shares and in Ellison's net worth?

Well, an earnings call with analysts that left all of Wall Street slack-jawed, using words like blown away or

momentous or in shock.

The software company said it actually missed its earnings and revenue targets for the quarter, but it was its forecasts which really wowed everyone, specifically on its cloud infrastructure business.

Oracle said it had signed four multi-billion dollar contracts in that sector with three different customers this quarter, one of which with Chat GPT maker OpenAI to develop over four gigawatts of U.S.

data center capacity.

It's predicting that its cloud business will boom over the next four years,

generating $18 billion in revenue this year and reaching, as you can see there, $144 billion in fiscal 2030.

Nevertheless, there is some risk there, notably with the Open AI deal.

The startup might be a huge name and generating a lot of excitement, but it's not expected to generate any profit before 2029.

Dude, this is pets.com level.

Miss their earnings,

miss the revenue.

It's not even close.

It's way beyond pets.com.

It's not even close to pets.com.

Pets.com was a short-term flash in the pan, interesting idea, which actually probably wasn't a bad idea.

I could have made money, but this is ridiculous.

And the thing about pushing it out to 2029 is the thing that's a real, it's just hilarious.

But all, I mean, I can't wait and see what's going on.

And the amount of money they're talking about, the $149 billion.

Yeah.

Yeah, we're talking about, you know, Defense Department levels.

Yes.

Yeah.

With no product.

No.

And all that Ellison has ever said is: well, just imagine that

Larry, there's a bunch of pictures of him floating around.

You know, the guy's like 82 now.

He's okay.

He's got a Cheshire cat grin.

It doesn't even look like him anymore.

It's like he's just got, well, I did it because Larry's thing back in the 80s when Bill Gates was the richest man in the world.

Yeah.

He was always, this was known in the valley, kind of, if you knew Berber was in this milieu.

Ellison was irked as hell that Bill Gates, who he thought was an idiot, was the richest man in the world.

And he thought he should be the richest man in the world.

And he was mocked by a lot of the locals for being, oh, he wants to be the richest man in the world.

That's all he cares about.

He'll never do it because Bill Gates will always outpace him because Gates is really smarter.

And he finally made it.

So let's just go back and listen to, this is from, when was this?

This is from July when

the whole

Stargate thing was announced.

I think this is it.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

One of the most exciting things we're working on, again, using the tools that Sam and Masa are providing,

is a cancer vaccine.

It's very interesting.

Early diagnosis, it turns out, I'll be quick, all of our cancers,

cancer tumors, little fragments of those tumors float around in your blood.

So you can do early cancer detection.

If you can do it,

you can do early cancer detection with a blood test.

And using AI.

From what's that lady?

The blood test from, what's her name?

Holmes.

Sarah.

Elizabeth Holmes.

Holmes.

And using AI

to look at the blood test, you can find

the cancers that are actually seriously threatening the person.

Then beyond that,

once we gene sequence, once we gene sequence that cancer tumor, you can then vaccinate the person,

design a vaccine for every individual person to vaccinate them against that cancer.

And you can make that vaccine, that mRNA vaccine, you can make that robotically again using AI in about 48 hours.

So imagine early cancer detection, the development of a cancer vaccine for your particular cancer aimed at you, and have that vaccine available in 48 hours.

This is the promise of AI and the promise of the future.

So he's predicting 10x what he's doing now, missing the revenue and

profit targets by 2029.

Does that mean we'll have 10x the cancer?

Because clearly, if you're doing all this, people have cancer.

Or is this all

just in case?

Well, I'm confused because I don't know that they're doing this at all.

Well,

this was during the Stargate launch.

This was what Oracle is doing with their AI.

Yeah, but where's the evidence that it's actually being implemented?

There's none of it.

And then he had this little ditty about Stargate.

This is great because now will we all have cancer, we'll also all be hunted down by the cops.

The police will be on their best behavior because

we're constantly recording, watching, and recording everything that's going on.

Citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on.

This is like Black Mirror.

And it's

unimpeachable.

The cars have

cameras on them.

Everything is cameras.

We have a squad car here somewhere.

But those kind of applications using

AI, if we can use AI, and we're using AI to monitor the video.

So if that altercation had occurred, that had occurred in Memphis, the chief of police would be immediately notified.

And where was the monitoring of Epstein's cell with your AI, Larry?

It's not people that are looking at those cameras.

It's AI that's looking at the cameras.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

You can't do this.

It would be like a shooting.

That's going to be immediately, that's going to be an event that's immediately

an alarm is going to go off.

We have a shooting.

We have a shooting.

Have supervision.

In other words, every police officer is going to be supervised at all times.

And the supervision will,

and if there's a problem, AI will report the problem and report it to the appropriate

person, whether it's the sheriff or the chief or whomever we need to

take control of the situation.

We have decided.

He's describing a bad Simpsons episode.

So we'll all be safe, but we'll all have cancer.

I mean, come on, Larry, you can't have it both ways.

MIT just came out with their report, The State of AI in Business 2025.

We'll just take MIT.

I mean, would you trust an MIT report?

It depends on how they document it.

I probably would.

Executive summary.

Despite $30 to $40 billion in enterprise investment into Gen AI, which I think I'm not sure what that means anymore, this report...

Gen?

Gen AI.

Oh, generative.

Okay.

Was it generative?

Is it general?

Generative.

It means generative.

So making songs on Suno.

Is that generative?

Making art.

Making art.

So they spent $30 billion in enterprise investments and we've got art.

Yeah, well, we got $30 billion worth of art

for free.

$30 billion.

Come on.

Almost.

That's a good deal.

This report uncovers a surprising result in that 95% of organizations are getting zero return.

What?

This was, we talked about this about three or four shows ago when JC, who's the AI expert in the family,

discussed the fact that a major AI company that makes a product

that is important to the AI world,

they did

a deep dive into this and found that 1,000 out of 1,000 examples, they could not find any benefits from using AI.

The outcomes are so starkly divided across both buyers, enterprises, mid-markets, small, medium businesses, and builders, startups, vendors, consultancies, that we call it the Gen A divide.

Just 5% of integrated AI pilots were extracting millions in value, while the vast majority remain remain stuck with no measurable P ⁇ L impact.

That's your balance sheet.

This divide does not seem to be driven by model quality or regulation, but seems to be determined by approach.

Tools like ChatGPT and Copilot are widely adopted.

Over 80% of organizations have explored or piloted them, and nearly 40% report deployment.

But these tools primarily enhance individual productivity, like making Art for the No agenda show when you should be working for your boss.

Or asking Error about

World War II.

About Article 24.

Article 4.

He gave us that information.

It was a benefit to the show.

Productivity, right there.

But no PL performance.

Meanwhile, enterprise-grade systems, custom or vendor-sold, are being quietly rejected.

60% of organizations evaluated such tools, but only 20% reached pilot stage and just 5% reached production.

Most failed due to brittle workflows, lack of contextual learning, and misalignment with day-to-day operations.

I think that's MIT speak for it sucks.

From our interviews, surveys, and analysts, and analysis of 300 public implementations, four patterns emerge

that define the Gen A divide.

Limited disruption.

Only two of eight major sectors show meaningful structural change.

Enterprise paradox.

Ooh, this is a good one.

Big firms lead in pilot volume but lag in scale-up.

Investment bias.

Budgets favor visible top-line functions over high ROI back office.

An implementation advantage.

External partnerships see twice the success rate of internal builds.

This is a very damning report.

I'd say.

What was that paradox phrase?

That's a good one, isn't it?

Enterprise paradox.

That's a choke title.

Cho title.

I know.

I'm writing it down.

Enterprise paradox.

Yeah.

But don't worry about it.

You know, it's making cool art.

Yeah, but by 2029, it'll shake out.

Yeah, 10x?

What's the TAM, Larry?

It's going to be 10x.

It's going to be beautiful.

Larry doesn't.

Hey, Larry got what he really wanted.

He doesn't.

Now he doesn't care.

Oh, he just wants to be the richest man briefly.

He just wants to be the richest man in the world for a moment in time.

Yeah.

And he's achieved that.

And so now we can just forget about it.

Yeah.

Gen AI divide.

Gen AI.

Are we going to see that as the next, after Gen Alpha, we have Gen AI?

Well, it's not, it doesn't mean generation.

No, not yet.

They'll be drinking Gatorade for the electrolytes.

No,

using it to grow crops.

To grow crops.

To grow crops.

Because it has electrolytes.

Exactly.

Yes.

I did get a boots on the ground from Carson,

who is Gen Z and works at a college bookstore that sells textbooks, including digital books.

A Gen Z customer came in this semester and said the digital book we sold her didn't work.

It gets better.

She then explained that, and I've seen this myself.

She then explained that she wasn't able to log into the website that the book is hosted on.

Quote, I can't remember my password, she tells me.

I guess I need to make a new account.

Now I've heard this myself.

I asked her if she'd clicked on the forgotten password button, and she stared at me as if I'd just spoken in tongues.

She clicks on the reset password link and stares at me again, like I'm the only one who can do it.

Just put your email in there so you can reset your password, I instruct.

She had absolutely no concept of what I was explaining, and I had to hand hold her through the entire thing.

Being a member of Gen Z myself, I'm ashamed of my contemporaries for not even being able to complete a basic task such as this.

However, I place the blame primarily on the parents, of course.

Wow.

Can we add that to the list?

Don't know how to rely on it.

What would you call it, though?

What categories it go into?

It's not simple enough to.

It's like.

But

it's just basically a version of stupid.

I have heard this.

Oh, I guess I have to make a new account.

I have heard this.

It's like not understanding what passwords do or what they're for

or how they function.

I am really baffled.

Yeah.

How they function?

I mean, for one thing,

you know, that's always assumed that the different generations have a different

relationship with computers, not technology in general, but just computers.

Yeah.

Phones.

Phones.

Phones.

And well, phones, phones, which are computers in your pocket.

Not in yours.

Nope.

It's in the drawer, and I don't need to be hooked to a computer 24-7.

So

they have a different relationship because there's kids.

Oh, they were brought up.

They never knew an era when there was no internet.

They never knew an era when there was no computers.

They never knew this.

They never knew that.

Because they were, you know, there was an internet when they were born.

All this sort of thing.

And so,

the Zeds, which I'm going to now call them because I like it.

The Zeds.

The Zeds.

Gen Z.

Gen Z.

So they're...

Well, there's just Zeds to me.

The Z's?

Okay.

The Zeds are brought with what circumstance.

Everything was there.

And they were raised with computers, with the network, with the internet, with networks, with Wi-Fi, with...

with

cell phones, with everything, every single thing that's available out there,

and they don't know how to use it?

I think in this particular case, what's happening is because of the phones,

once you sign into Apple or Google, that's it.

You just click sign up.

You don't do a password anymore.

Well, you may not know this, but that's how most phones work these days.

If you're on Android, You sign into your Google and everything just works.

And if it's a new app or a new website, just sign in with Google.

Click.

And Apple kind of has the same thing, but not to that extent.

But I think everybody has a Google and just, oh, just sign in with Google.

Just sign in with Google.

They don't understand what's happening in the background and that all your information is being sucked up by Google.

They're just taught in high school?

Oh, please.

Don't they teach kids in high school how to use a computer?

No.

Yeah.

Well, sure they do.

How to stick a paperclip in it to make it blow up in class in your Chromebook.

That's what they're teaching them.

No, no,

there's no computer, no knowledge like that.

It's called computer literacy.

They used to have a class in some schools.

You're presenting.

It's called computer literacy.

Have you ever seen today's typical middle school teacher?

They're not that literate on computers either.

It doesn't work.

My computer doesn't work.

How many

dudes named Ben do we have who have heard this?

My password doesn't doesn't work.

Well, why don't you take the caps lock off?

This happens all the time.

That is nine-tenths of the problem right there, caps lock.

All right, I got to go back to Ursula because did we know this or did we not know this?

We are on the brink,

if not even at the start,

of another global health crisis.

And as a

now, a global health crisis.

Now, Now, we know that.

Of course, we're on the brink of a global health crisis because people aren't vaccinating anymore.

But this next piece, I'm not so sure I knew this.

Of another global health crisis.

And

as a medical doctor by training.

What?

Did we know this?

Did we know that she's a medical doctor by training?

Why did I not know this?

Well, I didn't know it either.

Let me look her up.

What's wrong with you?

Hold on a second error

is ursula von der Leyen a medical doctor by training

yes ursula von der Leyen trained as a medical doctor she studied at Hanover Medical School earned her MD in 1987 and even worked as an assistant physician before jumping into politics oh a nurse

assistant physician well she got an MD apparently oh I I was unaware no wonder she was on the in the cahoots with Birla and the whole pharma industry.

I'm not saying all doctors are like this, but wow, I didn't know this.

As a medical doctor by training, I'm appalled by the disinformation that threatens global progress on everything from measles to polio.

Ah, vaccines!

It's the vaccines, anti-vaxxers.

Stop it now.

We can't have that.

And this is why today I can announce that the European Union will head a new Global Health Resilience Initiative.

That's sure to make everyone sick.

Yeah.

Global Health Resilience Initiative.

Oh, please.

Well, here is the Global Health

Initiative in the United States from Maha, Maha, Maha, from Maha, RFK Jr.

The Make America Healthy Again Commission released recommendations yesterday to improve children's health.

They're calling it, quote, make our children healthy again.

Okay, marketing mistake.

Marketing mistake.

Make our children healthy again.

What's that?

Mocha?

Bohica.

No, make our children healthy again.

Mocha.

It's mocha.

Make our children mocha.

No.

How about.

Was this official or is this something the media dreamed of?

Oh,

who knows?

The Commission is planning to start new studies and improve collaboration between health agencies.

Some specific things they will work on will be improving air and water quality, limiting microplastics, removing chemical additives from food, and increasing breastfeeding rates.

Oh, no!

Health Secretary Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.

is the chair of this commission.

A lot of these 128

recommendations are things that I've been dreaming about my whole life.

I've been working for in congressional campaigns and presidential campaigns for other candidates.

And they get into office and they say, well, we can't, we just can't do it.

Kennedy says some of the ideas came from discussions with farmers, teachers, and doctors.

The report also focuses on harm from vaccines, electromagnetic radiation, and fluoride.

But medical experts have said those ideals are not based in factual information.

It's not factual, people.

Just go to sleep.

Everything's okay.

Pay no attention to the guy with the gravelly voice.

But this one has our attention because this is the next step, next step.

Not quite the final nail in the coffin, but it's a good start.

This is about the executive order.

The president just signed an executive order, making some news here when it comes to pharmaceutical ads.

The president just signed an executive order that's an historic change in the way that pharmaceutical advertising is done on television and the order basically reinstates or gives us now the the opportunity to reinstate the 1997 rules prior to 1997 pharmaceutical advertisers were required to put all the side effects on their ass

many of them didn't advertise because it lengthened the it because of what it did to the length of the advertising and that the removal of that requirement

in 1997,

FDA changed the rule to allow them to report the side effects on a website or on a telephone.

And they only had to report a few of them on television.

And that triggered a proliferation of these ads.

There's only two countries in the world that allow direct-to-consumer advertising by pharmaceutical companies on television.

We're one of those countries.

New Zealand is the other.

It's had a disastrous impact on human health, on people's relationships with their doctors,

and really on the entire gestalt, where Americans are led to believe that there's a pill for every ill

and that you don't have to exercise, you don't have to pay attention to your diet, whatever goes wrong with you, you can fix with a drug.

So, how much does this change the dynamic for pharmaceutical companies that have been

advertising on all kinds of channels

online?

They're going to have to do a lot on our channels.

They're going to have to report all their side effects.

In some cases, I might create an advertisement that's four minutes long.

Prior to 1997, advertising in magazines had page after page after side effects reported.

And so we don't know exactly

what it will do, but

we know it's going to be better for

the health of Americans.

Now, I don't know about you, but I think this is a genius idea

because it only benefits cable news

if pharmaceutical ads will be longer.

That shortens the availability on a 24-hour, 60-minute time clock, raising the prices to get in with any advertisement.

It also informs the public about all the stuff it's going to give you, which, as we know, is not good.

I think this is a good move.

I think this is just a step in the right direction.

But a good move nonetheless.

Yeah, it's not a bad move.

But I still think what happened, you know, they decided this memo came out.

We played a bunch of clips recently and they're going after Kennedy.

They did it with the hearings.

They're yelling and screaming at him and then walking out.

Elizabeth Warren being the best example.

We didn't play too many of those clips, but it was pretty ridiculous.

And it was part of a concerted effort.

This is the sell.

That was the salvo.

This was the retort.

This is the response.

And I think it's always been in his back pocket.

He says, you go after me.

You make my life miserable.

I'm going to take away your TV advertising.

So I think this is one step.

But he wants to keep something in his pocket.

So he still has the complete ban, which I think is the long-term goal.

And what should happen

is a complete ban of these ads.

Let's hope so.

Let's Let's hope so.

So I think this was just, this is a, this is political.

Well, yes, but it's, but it keeps the cable news companies in business for a bit longer.

Yes, sir.

I think that may have been just to assuage them.

Look, you're going to make a lot of money with these.

Extended ads.

There's no way they're going to do 30 seconds.

They can't do 30 seconds.

It's at least a two-minute ad, maybe longer.

So you're going to make a bunch of money, but get ready for it.

You're going to get this going to get cut off eventually.

They have to know that.

Meanwhile, in Sweden.

A media conference in Sweden was brought to a dramatic halt after their newly appointed health minister collapsed.

Elizabeth Lahn was standing next to the country's prime minister and other officials when she suddenly fell over and hit her head.

Thankfully, she did return a short time later with no apparent injuries, saying, This is what can happen when you have a blood sugar drop.

Yeah.

Okay.

Did you see that?

I don't think so.

Did you see the video?

No.

Oh, man.

She did one of those COVID drops.

Like, just dropped.

Fell forward.

The lectern went forward.

She banged her head on the lectern, just complete out.

Yeah.

Blood sugar dropped.

Okay.

Sure.

It had been pretty abrupt.

Yeah.

And my, my, my, how things change.

Here's the money, honey, with the latest.

We learned this morning that the FDA is now saying that it's okay to take ivermectin if you have COVID.

I mean, Senator, I remember talking with you repeatedly during COVID about your upset that

they were trying to cancel you because you were talking to doctors to try to find out the right ways to treat COVID without having to get too many boosters and COVID shots.

My COVID was gone in a day when I took ivermectin.

And now, three years later, the FDA says, oh, yeah, that's fine.

Take ivermectin.

What?

What?

What?

What?

What?

Oh, money, honey, please.

She's just discovering that there's a new sheriff in town.

What?

How can this be?

Because it was always like that.

It was always like that.

It was always like that.

But I like that.

You can't have the emergency youth authorization if there's a treatment for the product.

Exactly.

Or for the disease.

I'm sorry.

For the disease.

So you can't get the UA.

You said it right.

No, you said it right.

A treatment for the product.

You said it treated a treatment.

Yeah, a treatment for the product.

You said it right the first time.

I did.

The truth has to come out.

And so

because of that one aspect alone, not to mention hydroxychloroquine,

they had to

banish it.

No, no, no, you can't take this.

No good.

And just remember, we found the passport from the terrorist right there on the ground.

I mean,

the world is a scam, people.

Gen Zers, you're being scammed all the time.

Except on this show.

And with that, I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the mocha.

Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and the only Mr.

John C.

DeMore.

Good morning to you, and Shadow, Korean Martin Ship, Sea Boots at the Ground.

Feet in the air, subs in the water, and the dames and nights out there.

And the morning to

trolls in the troll room.

Now, all right.

What do you think the peak was on today's show?

Today is a Thursday.

I would say that maybe 1900.

2,834.

Yeah, well, that's because of the news.

Yes.

The news drives the show.

That's right.

That's right.

And those people have discovered that, yes, it does actually work.

You can listen again.

Welcome back, everybody.

We're glad to have you here.

But for how long?

How long will we be here?

It depends on what happens next week.

Well, probably nothing unless they find a shooter.

I'll tell you why I say this.

Big news in the podcasting industry.

Big, big news.

Inception Point AI, a new, well-funded company.

CEO is Janine Wright.

I think she was at Wondercraft, or where was she?

She was at some other company.

She made some money, punched out.

She has made a new company, Inception Point AI,

and they are betting on flooding the zone with audio content, all AI generated, all AI generated, 5,000 podcasts, 3,000 episodes a week.

Well, 5,000 podcasts.

You know, the funny thing is she thinks that's a lot.

But there are 4.5 million podcasts and over, what did you say, 100 or 200,000 active podcasts?

It's about 400,000 on a monthly basis.

Okay, there's 400,000 on a monthly basis of people that are podcasting and continuing to podcast, not just one-offs or these casual ones like you run into with the bigger number, which is the 4.5 million total.

Yeah.

So this is spit in the bucket.

Well, the thing is, they are looking at

the money

and the way the money works.

All she's going to do is ruin it for everybody.

Correct.

She's saying, I'm doing this at a cost of $1

per episode.

And so if you listen to, let's see, we're going to.

Wait, does that include

server time?

Did that include downloads?

Does that include the overhead?

Well, you can't do it for $1 an episode.

Well, that depends on how popular.

See,

she's looking at it.

I don't think these podcasts will be.

Well, what she says here is you could.

Well, yeah, if there's nobody listening and you send out one download yeah I guess you could do it for a buck well she says we make money at 20 downloads a week

it seems a little so you make

that

well listen to listen to this is

the tape the title of this podcast is the garden podcast and

it is hosted by Nigel Thistledown have a listen

Nigel Thistledown everybody what's going on Texas it's bluff here oh wait I'm sorry first we have to get two ads in a row.

Let me see if I can skip that.

You can tumble weeds off your driveway.

This is how we're going to make a money life.

Whether you're looking for a

duck, I possess something with intelligence.

Good evening, fellow garden survivors and connoisseurs of delightful disasters.

I'm your host, Nigel Thistledown.

And I must once again reveal that I am an artificial intelligence, which proves absolutely invaluable for tonight's celebration of spectacular garden failures.

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Welcome to Garden and our final episode.

The Great Garden Disasters.

What do you think?

I think people will listen to it.

No, they won't.

Oh, yes.

The people are already listening.

They're like, well, that was a very interesting episode.

It says his final episode.

No, I don't.

That's just the AI glitch.

It's not the final episode.

Oh.

And there's a knitting podcast.

What?

A knitting podcast?

That's not going to make any sense.

Well, here she says the company is able to produce each episode for $1 or less, depending on length and complexity, and attach programmatic advertising to it.

Do they have a Scrimshaw podcast?

A Scrimshaw?

What is Scrimshaw?

That's where you carve a little thing.

You take a tusk and you start carving on it, you know, while you're on the boat.

Yeah, like the white whale.

What is it?

Tusk?

Is that it?

White whale tusk?

No, you know what I mean.

Scrimshaw.

But they're pipes.

Don't they have Scrimshaw pipes?

Oh, yeah, Scrimshaw.

Yeah, it would be something like that.

Anyway,

the sound of slop.

It's here.

It's here.

Well, I have a.

Sure, you got to play this.

Now that you bring this up,

there's counter-programming already.

Oh, oh, here we go.

Do you ever open up social media, see a post, and wonder, is this even real?

You're not alone.

AI slop, this mass-produced, low-quality content, is clogging the internet.

How about that xylophone in the background is making me want to clog you?

You cannot trust that the news report you're seeing on TikTok is real footage.

You cannot trust that the reviews you're reading of like the sneakers you want to buy are written by a human.

The internet becomes less useful because you can't like get information from it in the same way that you used to be able to.

I'm Brittany Luce, and on this episode of It's Been a Minute, I'm getting into how AI slop is clogging the internet and your brain, and what you can do to get away from it.

Hit the button below to listen now.

Blong, blong, blong, blong, blong, blong, blong, blong, bling, blong, blong, blong, bling, plong.

Whoever thought that was a good idea?

Bling, blong, bling, blue, somebody.

Bling, blong, blong, blong.

Yeah, that's good.

That's dynamite.

Yeah, that's NPR for you.

That's NPR.

Well, here's here's the dilemma, though.

Here's the dilemma.

So, podcast index, do we ingest these 5,000 AI slop podcasts?

Do we ban them?

No, you can't ban them.

Well, we can.

We have all the power.

I have all the power.

You have the power to ban, but

you can't do it.

Do we mark them?

Should we mark them as lame?

No.

Or slop?

No.

No.

Why bother?

They're just indexed.

You yourself, you can't.

You would ruin the whole podcast in 2.0 idea.

Because the idea was freedom, freedom, freedom.

I know.

Yak, yak, yak.

And then this comes out.

Oh, we can't have

no more freedom.

Hold on.

That's not my position.

But there are many in the podcast industrial complex who are calling for this, who are calling for marking it as AI, who are calling for banning it outright.

I'm not saying Dave Jones and I are very clear.

As long as you've got an enclosure, you could podcast a PDF.

I don't really care.

But this is a real conversation.

People who make their money

with ads.

That's because they're underlined.

I don't care what system you set up.

There's an underbelly of people that want things censored.

Yes.

That's it.

And you yourself, with the Charlie Kirk stuff at the beginning of the show, where you're upset about it,

you could throw that right back at him.

What about Charlie Kirk?

You think we should be shot because we're going to let this go in?

They've registered as a podcast.

They follow the rules.

They have the enclosure.

They put it in the 2.0 system.

So what are you going to do about it?

Interestingly enough, the same people who want this AI stuff banned would also love to see Charlie Kirk banned.

Yes, of course.

It's the same.

It's the same point.

It's the underbelly.

Same people.

Yep.

Same people.

The same people who say...

Tell them to set up their own podcasting 2.0 index.

Same people who say, oh, I hope Homeland Security will let me into the country for the conference.

So much of that.

So much of that.

My own sister did that.

She's in New York for a wedding.

Willow has an American passport.

Her husband doesn't.

And she said, It's been a good trip.

We didn't get stopped

by border patrol.

Like,

what is this?

Has everybody, somehow, everyone's afraid that America rousts you the minute you come into the country?

Your own sister, does she listen to the show?

No.

No one, there's not a single person in my family who listens to the show.

How about you?

The last one

was Don's wife.

How about you?

Oh, yeah.

But you listened to it once,

not knowing she was a spook.

And she took, this should have been a clue.

She had notes on a piece of paper.

Well, I think you guys are very patriotic.

I think you're right.

Free Zakaria is anti-constitutional and a very interesting program.

I had no idea.

I'm like, wow, Aunt Meg, thanks.

I had no idea.

She ran the Russia desk.

What did I, what, what did I say?

That's how good she was.

Should have been a clue.

Hey,

you can get these podcasts, this podcast specifically on a modern podcast app, which is connected to the podcast index, which is important because when someone deplatforms your favorite podcast, and it happens all the time,

episodes specifically, episodes on Spotify get removed all the time.

Certainly, if you play, you know, we couldn't, we're not on Spotify because we don't, we won't sign their agreement.

You know, you have to sign an agreement so they can put ads in whenever they want.

If you play any music in a podcast episode that the algorithms identify as possibly copyrighted music, which let's be honest, is 80% of all of the fair use

end-of-show mixes, fair use because it's parody and relatable to the news that we are doing.

Parodia

Your episode just gets deleted.

No questions asked.

Yeah.

And no recourse.

Right.

So you don't want that.

You want to get a modern podcast.

Nobody wants that.

No, but people accept it.

Like, oh, well, I guess I got the platform.

Okay.

So you want to get something for podcastapps.com and go look at the podcast index.

All the information is there.

There's a little apps tab there as well.

You can see how it works and what's in there.

And it's all on the up and up.

And even the AI slop will be in there without any censorship or deplatforming.

And value for value, almost 18 years, almost 1800 episodes.

We still get to do this every single Thursday and Sunday.

It's amazing that you have allowed us to do that.

We are so excited every single time to perform this as a public service for you.

Time, talent.

I love my truck and I love what I do.

Time, talent, and treasure is how we've kept it rolling.

You hear the boots on the ground.

I mean, I didn't just find the report on MIT.

No, we have someone who actually works in the business that look, I got this report fresh off the press.

Here it is for you.

That is very valuable.

And we also have $40 billion worth of artwork machinery at our disposal.

And I could not be happier about it.

You put this in a new light for me.

This is great.

$40 to $60 billion worth of investment is is made so that we can have cover art for every single show.

However,

the artwork for episode 1797, which is titled Death Buses,

was done by a professional who knows what he's doing.

And this was Sir Shug, aka Fo Diddley, who deconstructed the Austin, the new $1.2 million Austin logo to create a new No Agenda logo.

Do you think this was AI deconstructed or is this, did he do this in Photoshop?

What do you think?

This has to be a Photoshop job.

I think so, too.

It just didn't feel like AI is deconstructing.

I could see where you could take and

cut out that Austin thing and move things around a little bit and throw up the no-agenda label and Curry Dvorak and

easier.

There's no way that AI could work that, do that.

You'd be prompting all day.

We're not near professor-level intelligence.

What?

There's no way.

There's no way.

It was good.

And everyone who saw it immediately said, oh, that's great.

That's what makes a great piece of art.

Well, that's if they all noticed what the logo looked like.

Well, I only care about my friends and my family.

I don't care about anybody else.

I don't notice, of course.

I don't care about anybody else.

There were other pieces of art that we looked at.

By the way, if Sir Shug is listening, which he probably is, is,

and he did that using AI in any way.

Yeah, which system did you use?

Unless he said, AI, give me a yellow background, except for that.

Maybe that, maybe that.

I would like to know if AI was involved.

And

I'm absolutely convinced there's no chance.

It's really amazing what AI is doing.

And it's really with things that there was already, I mean, is there really a business for graphic designers anymore?

I mean, really?

Unless you're working for the city of Austin and you just overcharge them and you say, look, here's what I did.

Well, I have some friends who are professionals at the highest level.

And how they do that.

And they've long since given up on it.

They gave up on the business.

That's exactly my point.

They've given up on it.

No, but they gave up before AI.

Why did they give up?

Because of all the free clip art that's available and spot art.

There's just libraries and libraries full of it, and it was too hard to compete with it.

Well, in other words, you could compete with it, but you couldn't compete at the price levels.

You couldn't get the top dollar you used to be able to get 30 years ago for your spot art.

One of our producers is a songwriter in Nashville, and he sent me, he said, look,

this is a song idea I had.

And he sent a demo.

You know, you know how demos used to sound on a cassette tape?

Like,

someone's singing like a demo.

Someone's singing along, you know, kind of off-key.

It's okay.

Maybe you got a good singer to come in.

It's never really, it doesn't really sound professional, but it's okay.

And then you give that to the label, and the label then takes it and gets an artist to record it.

And boom, Bob's your uncle.

You got some money.

If it's a big name artist, it's great.

This songwriter said, I just threw this into AI myself and listened to this.

And it was like completely done.

Like a Nashville song, completely done, right like it came out of the studio.

I mean, that is just over.

So I mean, now you'll always have,

you'll always have,

you know, something special, someone new, someone that does something that the AI has not yet done.

That's always going to happen.

That will always be the case.

And people will take note of it and it will be successful.

But still.

Even then with streaming and Spotify, there's no money in it.

So we're just going to have to deal with it, I think.

And now they're trying to do that with podcasters.

But can anyone really replicate what we do?

Is that really possible?

Eventually.

I don't think so.

Yeah.

But probably the whole thing will collapse before that happens.

But when I say eventually, I mean eventually, like within 100 years.

Oh,

okay.

Well, we'll go to the moon within 100 years.

I'm sure that'll happen.

Maybe.

Until then,

no $40 to $60 billion invested here.

No, instead, we depend on your support of the program.

This is unique in podcasting.

There's not a lot of people who have done this successfully and certainly not for 18 years.

And we believe it's because it's an outstanding product.

There's no other way to do value for value.

Or as some say, I work for tips.

No, no, no, we don't.

And people have supported us and we are eternally grateful for the opportunity to do this for you and for the value you return for whatever you receive from the program.

And today, we have one of those examples of someone who has the means and the love for the show.

Seronymas of Dog Patch and Lower Slobovia comes in once again with his mysterious number, not ending in a two, I might add.

So, I don't know if he had two-dollar bills, but today he's saying

he always has $2 bills.

You don't have to keep wondering.

He had six of them in this donation: $3,141,

Yeah.

Which we are so grateful for.

And you have a note I have on my thing right here.

You have a note.

I have a note.

In fact, I didn't get a copy of said note.

Usually I get a scanned copy of the note.

You do.

But why not today?

Because Jay's in Seattle.

Oh, so she didn't have the note?

No, I had the note.

Okay.

All right.

You don't have a scanner?

You got printers all over the house?

No scanner?

I have a scanner.

Well, you should have scanned it for me.

Well, it's easier to write John has note, which is three words,

on a memo to Jay directly.

Okay, as long as they don't have to copy down any information, it's good.

Then,

oh, you mean, oh, what?

Yeah, it's funny because this is the first time Onimus asked for about eight clips.

I doubt

it.

That's interesting.

I doubt it.

He did.

No, he didn't.

Okay, here he goes.

Too much travel again, causing delays in producership, he writes.

This donation includes any cash processing fee.

Cash

this.

I'm going to read this, but I can assure you that we don't do this, and I'm sorry to say.

Personally, I recommend not depositing cash, but adding it to your pallet of cash for future use.

No.

Your pallet.

We don't have a pallet of cash.

We put it in the bank so we can split it at the end of the year, but at the same time make sure that it's documented so the IRS doesn't say, hey, these guys are taking cash money and putting it aside.

We don't do that.

No.

A note for travelers on the EU currency restrictions.

Oh, this now here we go.

Here we go.

Take up to the limit of $10,000 and exchange US dollars cash at different currency exchanges.

In time, they may develop a method to capture passport numbers across different networks.

But for now, it allows you to have more than the currency limit and helps keep credit cards in your pocket, reducing future fraud risk and offers the added benefit of annoying

retailer checks that can't count retailer clerks that can't count change.

So we're talking about those areas that we've talked about on the show where you can't have more than $300.

Yes.

He says, hell with it.

Take your $10,000 across the border and and then go to a bunch of, you get a lot of $300, $200,000, $300 here and there.

So he says, so it's just like.

All right, there's a little tip.

A little tip for the travelers.

Adam,

your view that some of our challenges is the devil at work has merit, but recall that life is a human endeavor and there has always been profound evil in the world.

Amen.

We are in total agreement.

Small note, note: last month's shekels were from my visit to the West Bank.

Yes, he sent some shekels.

He visited the West Bank.

That's interesting.

Yeah, we're figuring it out.

We're getting close.

My visit to the West Bank.

You know the place

I-S-A-A-K-A Jesus was born, P-B-U-H, which is peace be above him.

He's talking about

Allah or about Muhammad.

That's Piba.

refers to.

No jingles, no karma.

John, 175 words.

He's well within his budget.

Well done.

And I believe he becomes.

Am I the only one that complains about long notes?

Is that what he's implying?

That's the reputation that you have.

Yes, that's your reputation.

That doesn't mean it's correct, but reputation is just a fact.

You can't deal with it any other way.

You got to rep, and that's it.

So you might as well say it.

Okay.

Say what?

Well, if you're being accused of the crime, you might as well commit the crime and tell people.

It's not a crime to bitch about the people writing notes that are too long for the show.

No, exactly.

What kind of a crime is that to complain?

It's a figure of speech.

Now you can't complain.

It's a crime.

It's a figure of speech.

Thank you, Sir Anymous.

Now, he receives

a secretary generalship, I believe.

He never wants anything.

Well, but he got on the list.

Okay.

Let me just check.

Because Jay just puts people on the list.

She just wants to send stuff out.

Let me see.

No, she does.

She's like, I can't wait to send.

Yeah, she put him on the list.

And I don't know what I'm going to do.

So I got the package in the mail.

It doesn't have anybody's name on it.

I have no idea where it came from.

It's from

one of those plays, that printing operation, the big one, print for less or whatever it's called.

And it's two envelopes, and each one of them had a

very elaborate set of small no agenda stickers.

Oh, that's cool.

Little silver stickers.

They're about very small, like half-inch brown stickers with a logo on them.

And I got two sheets and two different envelopes within the package.

I would like to know who sent those to me and what they want us to use them for.

Are they handsome stickers?

Yeah, they're cute.

It's pretty because it's a silver, little silver sticker.

Oh, wow.

I'll take a couple and put them on some trucks out here.

No, it's too small.

Oh, okay.

We're talking little bitty things.

They're like on a sheet of paper at the bottom, maybe, or it's a stamp for the back of an envelope.

No, this wouldn't do any good on it.

On your laptop cover?

Can we put it on the laptop?

No, it's too small for that.

There's small little stamp-sized stickers.

Sir Scovey is up next from Charlotte, North Carolina, and he comes in with 99999.

999

Matching Donations Alert in the morning to Alexander Wenta, Sir Sam and Charlotte in San Francisco for their donations of 333.33 to show 1797.

Thank you for your courage.

All six donations have been matched.

But wait, there's more.

A seventh was matched because Charlotte in San Francisco not only mentioned the matching donation offer, but did so on a handwritten note.

That's worthy of a match to the best podcast in the universe.

Goat Karma for the seven producers who made the matching donations possible.

Love and light from Sir Scovey in Charlotte, North Carolina.

And this concludes the matching donations.

And we thank you all very much, producers who match.

And of course, Sir Scovey, thank you for your courage.

You've got

karma.

It was nice of him to give that last extra one.

That's very, that's very kind, yes.

Sir, your honest mechanic.

And he is in

Eastley, South Carolina.

Easley, yep.

Easley, easily.

Easily there.

It's also known as Kevin Fusco.

52636.

ITM, fellas.

This is Sir, your honest mechanic.

I'm back

probably a month back in episode.

I'm back, and this is probably

a month back in episode.

So

you've probably,

they spell it right that time, already talked about this.

Okay.

One of my employees came to me and said, our insurance sucks.

The doctor prescribed my wife Zepbound for her sleep.

No, no.

He said the FDI just recently approved it.

I had a great laugh laugh when he said that, and I thought it's only a matter of time before these are good for erectile dysfunction, like Adam keeps predicting.

It's coming.

I thought it already happened.

Well, thank you, Du.

No jingles, just karma for everyone.

Thank you, Kevin.

Yes, well,

they kind of said it, but they haven't actually advertised it as erectile dysfunction.

So, not quite, but we're getting close.

You've got karma,

Matt Stevens, Nahunta, Nahunta.

I'm probably mispronouncing that in Georgia.

Nahunta.

350.

Nahunta.

350.93.

That's 333 plus 33 fees.

Plus fees.

Thank you both for your work.

In ceremony of Charlie Kirk, please knight me Sir Matthew of the lower.

Oh, memory.

In memory of Charlie Kirk, please night me Sir Matthew of the lower coastal plain, Matt Stevens, in Nahunta, Georgia.

So he'll be the Sir Matthew of the Lower Coastal Plains today.

Thank you, Matt.

Appreciate it.

You can get the next one after I read Sir Joseph's note.

And he's in Ewing, New Jersey.

This is the other note that came in.

Mm-hmm.

Well, there's two notes here, two notes in a row.

And

I only have one note, so I don't know what note you're about to read.

Oh, wait.

This is no, this is Sir Joseph.

I have the note, the sheet from, I don't know where that other other note is.

I have,

no, yeah, I think that's the one attached to the PDF.

I have Beth.

Beth Elliott or Chad Elliott.

What do I have?

I have Beth Elliott.

That's the one I have.

That's the note.

So you have Sir Joseph.

No, but there's Sir Joseph.

Yeah, I have Sir Joseph writing my poem.

Well, why don't I just read this one then?

And you can do that, which is what you were saying.

Because then we're skipping Sir Lucas.

Sir Luca.

Sir Luca.

So

Sir Luca.

Why don't you read Sir Luca and then we'll go from there?

From Switzerland.

There are two kinds of people in the world: those who use the metric system and those who still use body parts and kitchen utensils as units of measurement and fake the moon landings.

This would be typical of a Swiss guy.

And they fake the moon landings.

Please, I would appreciate if you gave a cancer karma, an F-cancer karma, I'm sure, for my father who is fighting a prostate cancer comeback with ivermectin, a dog D-wormer, and supplements.

Yes, we're familiar with this.

And very good results, I've heard.

Please keep us informed.

In october we will know if it worked lastly happy 51st birthday to me on september 11th thank you for your attention to this matter says sir luca

you've got karma

so this uh is sir joseph of ewing

uh new jersey he came with 333 and he was plugging something on his check, but I didn't have a check here.

But he says,

and he also has a funny letterhead of gumbo boombas.

Anyway, he's a character, Sir Joseph.

He's the lord of the central Jersey swamp.

If someone told me that I would someday donate $1,000 to a podcast, I would have told them that they needed their head examined.

Well, I need my head examined because this is the third donation 333.34 puts me into the knighthood category.

I couldn't possibly ask you to

kick in the penny considering, oh, he added it,

how much

bitching John does about

the lackluster donations of late.

Yeah, I complain a lot.

Please knight me, Sir Joseph Lord of the Central Jersey Swamps.

And if you would, if you'd be so kind to provide, by the way, this is in four-point type,

so I'm struggling.

If you'd provide some gumbo parmesan and

El Bata, El Bata beer.

See, this is exactly why you need to scan the notes, because now I have to go into the system.

I've got to go into the show notes.

I've got to say, can you repeat that again?

Yeah.

What is it?

Yeah, well, I would have scanned the note if I had known this was in there, but I didn't read the note.

Oh, very good.

Please mention my band, the Gumbo Goombas,

who can be found on my digital platform, and I will be able to deduct the offering as an advertising expense on my taxes.

Okay.

You know, it's between you and the IRS, but it sounds like an ad to me for the gum.

I said it already twice.

Gumbo Goombas.

That's three.

P.S.

I recently celebrated my 68.

Ah, I bet she's not on the birthday list.

No, another thing I got to add.

Okay, well, gee, I'm sorry you're going to have to do some work.

I'm struggling struggling trying to read this note.

My 68

revolution,

that was my fault because normally when I send these to Jay when she's floating around someplace else, I will put the birthday call out on this.

It would have been on the thing and it would have been taken care of.

But that was my fault.

Sir Joseph, and he turned 68 when?

I'm looking.

He doesn't say.

And can you again give me what he wants for the round table?

Because you still didn't tell me.

Yeah, he wants for the round table.

He wants

gumbo parmesan,

which I have no idea what that is.

And Elata.

Elata.

A-L-O-I-I'm sorry, Elbata.

A-L-B-I-T-A beer.

Elbachia.

Elbita.

A-L-B-I-T-A?

Yeah, that's what it says.

A-L-B-I-T-A.

Elbita.

Well,

let me look

Yes.

Okay.

That's not Elbata.

It's Albita.

Well, again, it's at four-point type.

So

when you get in your 70s, even with the cataract operation, you can't read four-point type.

I recently celebrated my sixth day of revolution.

He goes on about that.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Soon to be Joseph, Lord of the Central Jersey Swamps.

All right, we've got it all.

Then we have Beth Elliott, who says,

in the morning, John Adam, a written note.

And this I also have not just a note, but I have a, for some reason, a scan of the check.

It's a pretty check.

Assuming this arrives in time, can you please read this on Thursday, September 11th show?

Switch a roof for my smoking hot hubby of 31 years, Chad, who hit me in the mouth during COVID.

Thank you for that, and congrats.

You are no longer a douchebag.

You've been dedouched.

Happy anniversary, sexy ass, she says.

For jingles, may I have they're eating the dogs.

I got hairy legs and little girl.

Yay, thank you, gentlemen, for your courage.

And, in all uppercase, for your attention to this matter.

Yours truly, Beth.

P.S.

Chad says I listened to y'all too much.

They're eating the dogs.

I got hairy legs.

Wow.

All right.

I have a lot of people.

And I already have Strackel of Lavender Blossoms, buddy, in Northville, Michigan, 2772.

Good to hear.

And he says, even though this is not true, I think it's about time I show my appreciation for all you do.

He does all it constantly.

Thank you.

Happy birthday, Adam, which is a little late, but there it is.

And R-I-P-C-K, Sir Cal.

Sir Cal, you've been around for a long time and have supported us a lot.

So thank you very much.

No.

Yeah.

Hey, Eli, the coffee guy, is about to round it out.

We have a couple more for he's from Bensonville, Illinois.

20911, there it is.

Here's always with the date, 9-11.

Normally, I would try to write something witty along with a plug for Gigawatt Coffee, but I was in the middle of drafting my donation note when I received a text that Charlie Kirk had been shot.

Although I didn't listen to him much, I just want to express my sorrow.

Any political killing tears at the fabric of our nation.

I mourn the death of Kirk.

I also mourn the last 25 years since the fateful morning in September that sent planes crashing into buildings.

I missed the world before that future generations will never know.

I'm concerned of what they shall inherit.

I'm sure this event and the following media circus will help usher in new security measures and even greater loss of freedoms.

Thank you for pointing out the BS, says Eli the Coffee Guy.

Linda Lou Patkins up, and she's in Lakewood, Colorado, 200 bucks, and she wants jobs, Karma, and she says, worried about AI?

For a resume that gets results,

tells your unique story and highlights the value you bring, go to ImageBreakers Inc..com.

That's ImageMakers Inc.

with a K.

And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes.

And then I want to continue with the anonymous.

Winning, winning resumes.

And she needs to say that.

What did I say?

You just actually, you phoned it in.

Yeah, I probably did phone it in.

You should have read it.

Jobs, Karma, worried about AI?

For a resume that gets results, tells your unique story, and highlights the value you bring.

Go to ImageMakers Inc.com.

That's ImageMakers Inc.

with a K, and work with with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes.

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's go for jobs.

You jobs.

Come on.

Hey, at least we're honest.

So will you do this since you're so damn good?

Can you do the voiceovers for Mimi's ads as she runs for city council in Port Angel?

Oh, I'd be delighted to.

I told her exactly that.

I said, I don't even have to ask him.

Have you asked him?

Have you asked him?

I said, said, no, I haven't asked him.

He'll just do it.

He's an egomaniac.

He'd be glad to do it.

Oh, what?

Oh, hold on.

I just,

Mimi, I'm sorry.

I was going to do it until John called me an egomaniac.

I'm no longer doing it.

Nope.

You can blame John.

Nope.

That's it.

I'm done.

Nope.

Sorry.

It's all over.

So anonymous.

And by the way, so apparently she and one of our producers did a meetup promo

for

the meetup in Oakland?

No, no, I thought

they're doing a meetup in Port Angeles.

Port Angels.

Port Angeles.

But they're doing a meetup.

So they sent me a meetup promo with Mimi,

but they send me an Audacity file.

Like, I can't open this.

I mean, I could.

Oh, they didn't send an Audacity.

Yes, they did.

Oh, that's embarrassing.

The Audacity project file.

And I'm like, so she says to me,

Here we go.

Here we go.

Yeah, we decided, I forget the guy's name.

Now, does your wife talk like that?

I agreed to make her voice talking like this,

which is hard for me to do, so I don't do it.

But she said that

they've got

that device you have, the

roadcast.

And they recorded it, and they said, how do we get it off of here?

And they couldn't figure out how to get it off.

I said, why don't you just take the memory off?

We finally worked it out.

Send me the memory card.

So they finally worked it out.

They didn't do the memory card.

The easiest thing to do is take the memory card, stick it in the computer, boom, you're done.

Yeah.

But so they took it and I guess they put it in Audacity and then they sent you the Audacity.

They went to say with Audacity, if you go to save project,

it saves it as this crazy format that is not audio.

It's just their format.

Yeah.

Instead of exporting it, they didn't know to export it.

Yes.

Is this the podcast studio they're running up there?

Yeah.

Well, don't get it down.

Well, and to be honest, I got it, and I have Audacity, but then it opened up.

And first of all, Audacity, which is now a commercial company, gives you all kinds of great offers.

And then it says, yeah, this is no longer compatible with this version of Audacity.

And it's close to showtime.

Like, okay, I'm sorry.

You got to send me an MP3.

And so it's not going to be.

When is the meetup?

It's next.

It's this coming Saturday.

Oh, crap.

So we can't even play their jingle.

They're probably.

Well,

you have to go to the source.

They screwed it up.

They didn't export the file.

Instead, they sent you that.

And Audacity being what it is, because I've noticed this too.

It's horrible.

It's changed so much over the last couple of iterations.

It's because it became a commercial company all of a sudden, from open source to someone buying it somehow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Why doesn't that happen to Podcast Index for a couple million?

We We can go from Orpin's open source to be bought.

Yeah, we got no problem.

You can be bought.

I know your style.

Yeah, that's it.

Okay, so okay, they're having the meetup coincident with the Oakland meetup, which I'll be at.

But it'll be listed in the Port Angeles is having a meetup on Saturday.

And

Jay will be up there.

Oh, nice.

Oh, that's good.

And Brennan.

So they'll be up there.

They would normally meet the Oakland meeting.

Brennan,

the deadbeat with no job, that guy?

He still gets checks.

So

he'll be there with Jay, and they'll have-I don't know where they're doing it, but it was listed.

And I'll be at the Oakland meeting, which is going to be at the pizza place in Oakland again, Violetas.

So the producers are saying,

post the file to the chat, and we'll take care of it for you.

And I'm like, they will.

Yeah, but it's, I think it's

like raw audio, like 15 gigs or something for these things.

You know what I mean?

That sends something weird, sends something weird out.

Could be wrong.

I'm going to see if you can post it.

Anyway, the last donation is from Anonymous.

I wanted to mention this came.

Is his check is $200.

The person was adamant about not mentioning who it is, but did say that

she

now just discovered, just discovered you can send in a check and couldn't do anything because you didn't want to do anything else.

And it realized that this is great.

I can send in money now because I didn't realize

how easy it is to send in a check.

Oh, it's so easy.

It's so easy.

The box 339, El Cerrito, California, 94530.

It's just beyond me.

Well, everybody doesn't send in a check.

It costs 15 cents to process.

Yeah, I can't post it to the chat because it's 31 megs.

I can only upload 15 megs.

I'm sorry, people.

Sorry.

All right.

Wow.

Yeah.

There we go.

Okay.

Was that it?

Was that the last episode?

That was it.

We're done.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you to these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1798.

Two more to go until the big 1800.

Will they survive 18 years?

The best podcast in the universe.

That's up to you if you want us to continue with this open source, open funding, completely transparent system we have put up, where we thank everybody who supports us $50 and above.

And of course, these executive and associate executive producers receive these credits, which are official show business credits, and they receive them because they came in with $200 or $300.

But any amount matters to us.

Anything that you want to send back as value is value for value for us.

And we'll be thanking $50 and above in our second segment.

Thanks again.

Our formula is this:

we go out, we hit people in the mouth.

Shut up, sleep.

Shut up, sleep.

I just had an idea here.

Let me see.

I can probably

post this.

You know, I got an idea here.

I think I can get this on a server and get them to it.

Oh, yeah.

I got everything, baby.

Let me see if this works.

You're going to post it somewhere and have them pick it up?

Yep.

Yep.

Here it is.

It's an AUP3 file.

AUP3, because I don't even know what that is.

I've never even seen that.

All the files I have that are backed up like that are AUPs.

Well, this says AUP3.

So they exported it as something special.

Good luck, boys.

Yeah.

Well, the chat has it.

So the trolls will go to work.

I mean,

it really just, I ran out of time.

First, everyone always assumes, well, don't you have a Google account connected to automatcurry.com?

Like, no,

no, I have a Google account, which is not automatcurry.com.

And so I always have to request access,

which usually, you know, an hour later, people go like, oh, okay, here you go.

Here's your access.

I'm sorry, I got the access.

And

then they send it back.

And it's like, okay.

Anyway, the trolls are going to be doing it.

Well, we might get it done, but when we need to get it done

the trolls are going to do it the trolls are going to do it they're going to do it no we'll see now they're going to do there's a lot of trolls today and they're they're boring we have great trolls now speaking of one of the best trolls in the universe wow this came in this morning on the transom bye-bye mandelson breaking news breaking hour let's go live to westminster our political correspondent serena barkasingham serena we're hearing in the last few moments that peter mandelson has been asked to withdraw as ambassador by the prime minister yes exactly Withdraw from being the ambassador, or essentially, he's been sacked by the Prime Minister.

And you heard from the Foreign Minister there, Stephen Doughty, who was drawn out by the Conservatives' urgent questions today to make that announcement.

It's not a surprise.

We were talking this morning about how long could Peter Mandelson sustain this drip feed of information, these very embarrassing photos, that one of him in a bathrobe at one of Geoffrey Epstein's residencies.

But it seems to be these emails that are the most damning.

And the Foreign Office has said these are the new information that emerged.

This sacking has gone down, whether he was told personally, whether he was summoned in.

But it was clearly becoming untenable that Peter Mandelson could sustain his position.

And remember, the government has a commitment to

women and girls and halving violence against women and girls was optically not looking very good.

But it seems like those emails were the most damning things.

And that's why the Prime Minister has said today via his foreign minister that the U.S.

ambassador now has been sacked.

So these emails, as I was reading through them, it's like, haven't we seen these?

It's been around for a long time.

This whole thing is blowed up again.

And they had the the latest Trump no to his birthday party or something.

Oh, yes.

Which I thought was actually pretty funny.

Well, the thing that is poorly reported on is it looks like a script.

A script with a voiceover, and it literally looks like a side from a script.

And no one ever comments on that.

I'm not sure.

What script was it from?

Was it from a TV show, a reality show?

Was it from a movie?

Why is it a script?

At the top, it has voice, voice over.

If you really look at it, it's very confusing.

And of course, we know it's a Democrat hoax, everybody.

This is the birthday message allegedly crafted by Donald Trump for Jeffrey Epstein in 2003.

We have certain things in common, it says, inside a drawing of a naked female form.

May every day be another wonderful secret, it adds, above what appears to be Trump's signature.

You know, it actually, that drawing, it looks like, remember as kids, we would draw that and then we'd cover up a part of it, and people are like, oh man, I can't believe you drew that.

And you'd take your hands off, and it was actually a horse's head.

Do you remember that joke?

Remember that joke we used to play?

No, that was a joke that I've never remembered.

It looks a bit like that.

Signature.

I don't even know what they're talking about.

Now, somebody could have written a letter and used my name, but that's happened a lot.

I'm not a drawing person.

I don't do drawings of women, that I can tell you.

Despite White House denials, the signature appears to match Trump's on other letters sent during the same time period.

The president did not write this letter.

He did not sign this letter.

The drawing was contained in a birthday book prepared for Epstein's 50th birthday before he was convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor.

The book also included a message allegedly from former U.S.

President Bill Clinton and this photo that appears to be a joke about Epstein selling a woman to Trump for $22,000.

This is a Democrat hoax that never ends.

The material was obtained by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee, along with other records from Epstein's estate, part of a broader push for the release of the full Epstein files after the Trump administration backtracked on a promise to make them public.

And if Republicans don't want to engage in a cover-up of pedophilia and this pedophilia ring, they should go sign this discharge petition.

Trump and his allies keep trying to change the channel, at one point even claiming Trump was secretly working against his longtime friend.

He was an FBI informant to try to take

this stuff down.

I can affirm that is not true.

The shifting explanations and increasingly damning evidence have done little to quell the questions about Trump's involvement with the notorious sex offender, a story that seems unlikely to go away anytime soon.

Well, so that's the rundown.

You have the latest.

The check is pretty funny.

Somehow I think I'd seen that before.

Am I just imagining that we've seen all these things before?

Well, I know you haven't seen the Clinton cartoon.

Oh, no, that's new.

Yeah.

Well,

I don't remember this drawing being that, but maybe I'm

maybe there's a couple of them.

No, I remember the check, the picture with the check.

I remember that somehow.

Anyway,

an unlikely response from an unlikely quote-unquote ally,

Senator John Fetterman, was asked about this.

Senator, on the findings from the House Oversight Committee on this alleged birthday book, this note that the president allegedly wrote to Jeffrey Epstein for his birthday, do you have any comment on that and the drawing that goes with that?

Again, I don't think the Epstein thing is the big thing.

I don't know.

Release it.

But it's strange.

I mean, the Democrats, we've had that for four years.

We didn't release that.

I don't know why we didn't do that.

So for now, release it.

But I don't think that's going to, you know, it's this idea that suddenly that's going to be the one thing that's going to, you know, take out trump no i don't believe that that what that is uh he'll still be here i don't think it's just a distraction honestly but go ahead and release whatever that is but it's not that important

fetterman

he's all in with the with the president on this yeah it's just a distraction

it's quite the distraction yeah i don't know why well again if i go back to my own thesis it's meant to be a distraction it's meant to be well they forced me to do it, and here it is.

And then some people get burned, and Trump can be again

blameless.

I said not to do it.

I'm sorry, boys, that this happened to you, but this is nothing I had any control over.

This is the Democrats.

It's them.

Well, so Mandelson got burned, and this is just, what, a week before President Trump goes to the UK for a state visit?

That's rather embarrassing.

Yeah.

But Mandelson, do you see the pictures?

He's in his bathrobe, and he's like, hey, my best friend.

Oh, my goodness.

Men are sad.

Menelsock is notorious for getting burned like this.

Yeah.

There's always a sex scandal there.

Yeah.

What was that dude's name?

Oh, I don't.

I can almost come up with a dino who would know.

It's amazing how you forget this guy.

The necrophiliac.

Remember that guy?

Oh.

Jim.

Jim.

Jim will fix it.

I don't remember that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, of course you do.

The guy with a hat.

Ask Irvine there what she thinks.

Irvine.

Let's ask Irvine.

Hey, Irvine, who was the famous British pedophile that got arrested, never got arrested, but then eventually died.

Jim will fix it, dude.

That'd be Jimmy Savile.

Ah, Jimmy Fazz.

Oh, yeah, Jimmy Saville, sure.

Jimmy Saville.

There you go.

That was dumb.

What a creep that guy was.

All happened during the course of this show, I might add.

And boy,

they covered that up, didn't they?

Whoa.

Yeah,

an entire BBC.

It was the BBC.

Didn't they kill the journalist over that?

The woman who got killed outside her house?

I don't know.

Ask the.

No, I'm not going to ask the robot everything.

I'm not going to do that.

I'm not going to do that.

Adam and the robot.

That's you.

There's your title.

Adam and the robot.

Hey,

stick with me, baby.

Adam and the robot.

It's a possible exit strategy.

Think of it.

I can have twice the money.

Adam and the robot.

For 20 bucks a month.

You get half the money because when you have the robot won't complain enough.

I'll teach the robot to complain.

It'll cost me 20 bucks a month.

Adam and the robot.

Hey, everybody, it's Adam and the robot.

Hey, robot.

How you doing?

Robot, say hello.

Adam and the robot, everybody.

Woohoo!

In the morning.

Yep.

Yeah, it's going to happen.

We're talking about whining.

I had to get this clip out of the way.

This is the BBC clip about the Voice of America complaining.

Okay.

I got it.

The Trump administration is moving to fire most remaining journalists at the federally funded broadcaster Voice of America.

The move is likely to be challenged in the courts.

More than 500 termination notices have been sent out, including one to Patsy Wicaswara, who until now was the Voice of America White House bureau chief.

I think it's quite clear that press freedom in the United States is under attack.

Not just what's happening with us, with Voice of America, but also our colleagues, public broadcasters such as public radio, NPR, and then PBS, as well as private stations.

They're also under attack from the White House.

And if you just look at any White House briefing, you see a lot of very right-wing influencers,

BBC Nees.

Of course.

Oh, there's right-wingers.

It's all right-wingers on those podcasters.

Podcasters in the White House.

What are we going to do?

This is no good.

Can't have the podcast.

We never get invited to something cool.

Invite us to the White House.

No one's going to invite us to anything.

When you didn't get invited, because I still think we're a fairly neutral show about politics.

But when you, but you did come out for Trump in 2015, 2016.

Well, you came out for Trump.

You said, I want Trump.

That's not a big one.

You made a big fight.

No.

You lie.

No, let me finish.

You thought Trump would be the...

You were back in Trump.

You predicted he was going to win.

You lie.

I said, this guy can go all the way.

And you said, no, man, it's Marco Rubio.

That's how that went down.

You made a point of endorsing Trump, and you never got invited to

the inauguration.

That's the way I see it.

Remember it.

I endorsed him.

Okay.

All right.

And you never got invited.

No,

because I never endorsed him if I had said, yeah, go, man, go, go, go.

People, if somebody go dig this up and

do some research.

Yeah, please do.

Send it to me.

I'll gladly play it.

I find it very annoying that you didn't get invited to the inauguration.

Yeah, I'm not surprised.

Joe Rogan went.

He represented all

podcasts.

He didn't go to the inauguration in 2016.

No, that's right.

He went to the second one.

You're right.

He hated,

when I hated it.

He was not

a tiny person.

He was a Bernie fan.

He was a Bernie Sanders fan.

Right.

He was a Bernie Bernie.

You and Rogan, Bernie and Marco.

Uh-huh.

Sure.

Way to go.

Marco's got a better chance of still making it.

Way to go, eight-ball.

Okay.

Magic eight-ball.

Magic eight.

Here's a funny.

I have a WoW clip, one of these clips that is not getting much coverage.

This is just too funny.

A South Africa court has sentenced seven Chinese nationals to prison.

They were convicted of trafficking dozens of Africans and forcing them to work in a factory.

Entities David Lamb report.

A court in Johannesburg, South Africa has sentenced seven Chinese nationals to 20 years in prison.

Sentence to 20 years in prison.

They were convicted of trafficking 91 individuals from Malawi and forcing them to work at a cotton fabric factory in South Africa.

The group was convicted in February for crimes committed from 2017 to 2019.

Police raided the factory and arrested the defendants in November 2019.

Authorities said they found the Malawian victims confined in inhumane conditions with armed guards controlling their movements.

The factory had a high wall and razor fence.

But want to say to our people as well, they must know that we are taking these issues very seriously.

Government is working every day towards rooting out all these issues.

Prosecutors said the victims were forced to work 11-hour shifts, seven days a week, without safety equipment.

The South African Department of Labor expressed support for the sentence and urged greater collaboration among government agencies to help end human trafficking.

Slavery.

Yeah.

Yep.

In Africa.

No.

Gambling?

Of course.

Well, I thought that was a fun, interesting story.

No one's gonna.

You know, by the way, we have rapid developments.

Rapid.

Oh, you're looking at the quad box.

The quad screen says rapid developments.

It looks like this, the guy who they have been posting the picture all morning, like he was one of those

people that Charlie,

what's the term you used

with a P?

Polemprolemicist.

He prolemicized.

He polemicized that guy?

Yeah, because he always made people look foolish.

Yeah.

Well,

he looks like one of those guys.

Could be.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, I could imagine somebody getting burked and being made a fool of.

But I always thought it was.

There were.

The people that were...

Some of the dumb stuff people came up with with him is just ridiculous.

He was easy to it was easy pickings.

Well,

what do you mean?

So, you think they caught the guy?

I don't think so.

Soon, New Trump comments on Charlie Kirk.

I don't know.

No, that's nothing.

By the way, it's the same people that you love bringing on TikTok to the show.

It's the same people.

No, different people.

Okay.

Same category, same level, same caliber.

Well,

I don't have anybody on the show.

I don't have one TikTok clip on this show.

Well, you have an EBT complainer woman.

Oh, wait a second.

Here we go.

Oh, good lord.

Oh, good lord.

Okay, well, play that.

I had to cancel my vacation with my family because where we were going to go and vacation at,

they have already stopped certain things of being able to be purchased with EBT.

Well, because of this, that would mean I would have to buy the majority of my family's food out of pocket.

And that would dig into my money I have for fun things.

So I had no other choice but to cancel the trip.

My family is so sad about this and so am I.

I don't understand why people want to control what other people buy with their EBT.

Like, how is it your business what I buy with my EBT?

And there it is.

There's the problem in America in a nutshell.

Right there.

Right there.

I can't use my EBT on vacation for whatever I want to buy.

Isn't that emergency benefits?

Isn't that what that is?

Emergency?

Is that the key?

It's food stamps, yes, for people who are in dire straits and who need to eat food.

Who need food?

Yes, but

there it is.

Enough said.

I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.

Imagine all the people who could do that.

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

Yeah,

on no

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What are you laughing about?

Well, it's happy birthday to you, but because I guess looking back on it, I think she thought it was him wishing himself happy birthday.

So he's probably on the birthday list.

He's probably on the birthday list.

Well,

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That's pretty funny.

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Look it up.

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You might as well read it.

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These are actually $52 donors that are jacked it up a little bit.

Bente,

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I'm guessing.

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Yeah, well, you do it daily.

You can get it up there.

I think Omega Man has literally done over 5,000 episodes.

Omega Man, who he donates to the show?

Omega Man is out of his mind.

He's done 5,000 episodes.

I don't know if he's been around as long as we how long does he do a show for?

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No agenda beyond.

Well,

we do have the big meetup coming up on Saturday, the North Olympic Peninsula last-minute meetup.

It's a last-minute meetup.

Why is it a last-minute meetup?

Why?

Why is it a last-minute?

Did they just decided they're going to do something?

Exactly.

It'll be at 3:33 p.m.

at Bar Hop Brewing in Port Angeles, Washington, attending Mimi, Jay, and Brennan.

Sir Tim from the Squim will be organizing this, and thanks to the outstanding work of the producers on the No Agenda Show, I have a copy balance, no less, of their promo.

In the morning, this is T.

Ryan Everett.

Oh, wow.

What a lead-in for this.

Oh, my goodness.

Wow, wow.

All right.

Sir Tim from Squim, Commodore of the Port of Angels.

And this is Mimi Smith Dvorhack.

That's fake No, that's fake news.

She doesn't sound like that.

It should be

Mimi Smith Dvorhack.

Notice the Smith Dvorak.

What is that?

A little like, well, you know, at any minute, you go back to just Mimi Smith if you don't push your card in.

Oh, okay.

And this is Mimi Smith Dvorhack inviting you to the first in a long, long time North Olympic agenda meetup on Saturday, September 13th, which is just a couple of days away.

So set your sat-nav.

Or Google it.

I guess for you boomers, you can use your phone book.

And join us at Bar Hop in Port Angeles, not the one in SWIM, but the one in Port Angeles, this Saturday at 3.33 p.m.

That's Saturday the 13th at 3.33 p.m.

at Barhop in Port Angeles,

where

protection is connection or connection is protection.

One of the two.

Melana, just don't get it on me.

Okay.

Hi, I'm Adam Curry, and I love listening to Millennial Media Offensive.

I got punked.

So, Eric PP, now we talked about this Audacity file.

So I post it in the chat.

Eric PP gets back to me.

I save it.

I don't listen to it.

Obviously, otherwise

I would have banned it outright.

That was probably the worst promo I've ever heard.

And then

No Agenda Millennial posts me a copy and says, oh, I balanced it for you.

And so I'm, and I know Eric PP very well.

I'm like, oh, well, maybe Eric PP didn't have time.

So that's very kind of you, No Agenda Millennial.

And punked me with a little No Agenda Millennial promo right at the end of that.

Yeah, that was pretty good.

Outstanding work.

Outstanding.

That actually made that whole minute bearable.

Also on Saturday, the New Jersey Central meetup, we drink and we know things.

Spooky Season Edition, 2 o'clock at 3BR Distillery in Keyport, New Jersey, and the Northern Silicon Valley get John Out of the House meetup on the 13th, which, of course, will be without Jay, without Mimi, without Brennan, because they're all doing a competing meetup.

That'll be meetup number eight, 3:33 p.m.

Pacific, same time at Pizzeria Violeta in Oakland, California.

Go say hi to John, everybody.

And on Thursday, our next show day, Charlotte's Thursday, 3rd, Thursday monthly.

I don't know how many of them have done this.

They've been doing this forever.

7 o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Thank you all very much for

your meetup courage.

And you can always go to noagendametups.com to find out where all of them are taking place.

Connection is protection.

Yes, you can get some of it on you, Mimi.

Don't worry about it.

These are the people who will be your first responders in an emergency.

If you can't find one near you, go to noagendametups.com and start one yourself.

It's easy and always a party.

Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days.

You wanna be where you won't be triggered on hell lame.

You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

It's like a party.

Man, you're gonna have to have a phone call after the show

with Mimi

about the promo.

Well, you know, they don't listen to enough promos.

Do they listen to the show at all?

Well, she does, but I don't know if she pays.

It was Tim that decided to do the promo.

Wait a minute.

You mean Tim?

That's real good.

Yeah.

Okay.

Man.

That's great.

All right.

They'll love you for that.

Oh, yeah.

Just ragging on these poor people.

Hey, that's what we do.

To ISO.

She's my first.

I don't know what else to tell you.

And I have this one.

I mean, this is Balderdash.

Balderdash?

Brother.

You got a better one?

I think so.

Yep.

That podcast was a humdinger.

Well, how can I compete with AI?

I'm all in now.

It's $40 billion worth of AI.

Great master, you and me.

Just the chip with JCD.

And sometimes Adam.

All right, I'm going to do something that's a little food and wine related.

Ah, we always love the fine and wood and wood and fine.

The what?

The wood and fine tips of the day.

Wood and fine wood and fine.

Yes, I got to write that one down.

Wood and fine.

Sake.

Oh, oh, I.

Most people don't know how to buy sake.

In fact,

I'm very happy you're doing this because when we went out in Austin with the

former Hollywood executive, we went to a very

upscale sushi restaurant.

I think it's neighborhood sushi restaurant what it's called.

And I ordered sake and there was a list.

It was so long.

I'm like, just give me the Winter Warrior.

I had no idea what I was doing.

Yeah, that would be normal.

Not for you, for everybody.

Yes.

Okay, so what you're looking for when you buy a sake, there's a couple of things, and then I have an obscure.

The tip is actually the obscure ending to this little lecture.

You want to always get a Ginjo, a Ginjo Sake,

Ginjo?

Is that G-I-N-J-O?

G-I-N-G-O, Gingo?

A J-O.

You got to write the first one.

And if there's variations like Dai Jing, Ginjo, or there's other ginjos, it has to be, any of those variations are fine.

They get better.

There's some better ginjos that are really elaborate, but they're incredibly expensive.

But ginjo is your baseline.

You want to get a ginjo.

That means that's a sake that it ensures it's 100% rice.

They don't put neutral spirits in like they do the cheaper grades of sake.

A lot of them have that in there.

If it doesn't say ginjo, you're going to get neutral spirits watering it down.

It's just crap.

Okay.

You want ginjo.

Now, the funny thing is, and I've only noticed this over the years.

And this is an observation that has not been documented, but it's an observation I made.

And I made it initially about 30 years ago when I was at some event and a Japanese guy was there.

And he gifted me a bottle of sake.

And it was terrific.

It was one of the best bottles I've ever had.

I don't remember exactly what it was, but I do remember one characteristic, and I've noticed this over and over and over and over again.

When I buy sake from Costco, or I buy, as long as it's Ginjo, sake from Costco, and I buy sake from our local Tokyo fish market.

If it's in a blue bottle,

it's always good.

I know this has not been documented by anybody.

This is completely uncomfortable.

I have observed this over and over and over again over the years, and you'll see there's a whole bunch of sake up on the wall, and one of them's in a blue bottle.

And that's the one.

Just buy that and see what happens.

It's going to be good.

I have no idea

if a Japanese sake expert can come and back me up on this.

But I've always noticed that the blue

bottle sake are always the best.

I don't know.

Well, I would love for Sir Mark and Dave Masrid to chime in on this, but I do not doubt you.

And I'm always going to say, excuse me, can I see the bottle for this?

Can I see all the bottles?

Well, now

when you're at a restaurant,

they usually okay.

When you're at a restaurant, the sake is generally in the big giant bottles.

Yes.

And the big giant bottles, which are, I don't know, a liter and a half, or no, they're like two liters are huge.

And that's what they usually most of the sake, you get a lot of sake in these big, huge bottles.

Blue bottles are delicate.

So you won't find a big giant blue bottle because the nature of it, I think it's boron.

Maybe I familiar with the bottom of the bottom.

Oh, I've learned another tip.

Blue bottles are delicate.

This is another tip of the day.

Blue bottles are delicate, and that's why you don't see too many blue bottles because they're hard to make.

When I was inspecting the glass factory at Pittsburgh Plate Glass, it used to be in Oakland.

I got this lecture about, oh, we can't do blue.

Oh, it's a pain in the ass.

They're brittle.

They're crappy.

You know, we don't like making blue because it's a boron or something that goes in there and makes them brittle.

And so I've never seen a giant bottle of even the same brand of sake in a blue bottle.

They're always the brown bottle.

So you can't necessarily look at the bottle at a restaurant

because they're always going to be these giant bottles that they use typically.

So you're going to have to go just go with Ginjo.

Ginjo, it is.

There it is.

His tip of the day, a very handy one.

Look out for the blue bottle, everybody.

Great advice for you and me.

Just a tip with JCD.

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