1799 - "Taproot"

So they're bombing the public relations department.

Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Sunday, September 14th, 2025.

This is your award-winning give on Asian Media Assassination Episode 1799.

This is no agenda.

We've got the magic number.

And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA, region number six.

In the morning, everybody.

I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where wait, wait, the roommate was a trance named Twiggs.

What?

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill in the morning.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

This whole thing smells bad, Mr.

Dvorak.

Well, I know a couple of things that are obvious.

Fox.

And

I have this clip from this morning I sent as a bonus clip.

Okay, you got it.

They are avoiding this topic like the plague.

Fox is?

Yeah.

I don't think it's going to last long, but Howard Kurtz's show, you know, he does a kind of a clone on the media.

He's like one of the media guys.

He comes on once a week.

Oh, okay.

Deconstructive media.

Does he do that on the weekend?

I don't think we've ever seen him.

Yeah, only weekends.

Okay.

It's like Sunday only.

I don't even think he does a Saturday show.

Okay.

And so it kind of came up in the conversation.

Man, they, they,

this is the clip TG.

This, uh, they went so far.

They just said, they just dropped this like a hot potato.

Nobody wants to talk about it at Fox.

Megan, do the media need to know this?

Whether

the report is that he was rooming with a transgender person?

Or is that just something to glom onto because then we can blame it on the other side?

I said earlier, you know, all Democrats are out for murder, that kind of like painting with a broad brush.

I don't necessarily think we need to know the murder.

I think he was mentally unstable, and I think he committed murder, which is horrendous and unnecessary on a basic level.

But I think that we're always going to find people who don't like our views, whether or not they're moderate, whether or not they're left, or whether or not they're to the right.

I got a threat on Friday.

I'm a very moderate Democrat who comes on Fox, who comes on all the stations.

Yes.

And it's very moderate.

I should not be getting threats in my social media, but we do.

I'm sure you get them.

I'm not sure if I can do it.

Literally on Friday.

I'm sure you get them, and we all get them.

I don't care what their motives are.

They shouldn't be violent.

It shouldn't matter.

You should have the freedom to say what you want to say.

That's end of story.

That's our democracy.

Yeah, this, I think this is a part of something else.

I believe that all of the networks on all sides of the same spectrum, as they all are, really, have all gotten the message: shh,

we've got to calm it down because

we're all somehow responsible for this.

And you don't want to get fired because people are getting fired left and right.

Right now, only left, but I think right is coming.

And the media has gotten some message to tamp it all down and not blame it on a side.

At least that's what it seems like to me.

Well, you know, the funny thing out here,

it's kind of just completely dissipated from the whole thing is gone.

Oh, yeah.

No, I mean, I'm looking at

the quad screen, and Fox is talking to Mike Johnson for the past 48 hours.

Wow, that's got to be high entertainment.

Oh, it's I have I have a couple of clips from this morning.

I mean, the guy's making the rounds.

But before we do that,

everybody was waiting for Saturday.

You know, we had the, oh, you know, the FBI, you got a press conference, 20 minutes late.

We're looking at the empty stage.

We've got a, we got the four-minute warning.

We got the two-minute warning.

Okay, it's coming.

And then we got this.

In 33 hours, we have made historic progress for Charlie.

Wow.

In less than 36 hours.

33 to be precise.

You know, that is.

Hold on.

Hold on.

Hold on.

There's one more.

There's one more.

Yes.

Yeah.

Let me play all three just so you get it all in context.

These are in linear fashion.

In 33 hours, we have made historic progress for Charlie.

In less than 36 hours.

33 to be precise.

Bad stuff happens.

And for

33 hours.

Why the laughter?

The laughter from the governor of Utah was the weirdest one.

As he turns around and looks at Cash Patel and says, For

bad stuff happens,

and for

33 hours.

What is up with that?

This was, I mean, Tina comes in from the bathroom.

She's like, what is going on?

I'm like, well, for almost 18 years, we've been tracking this and we can't now all of a sudden.

To no avail.

Well, true,

but it's always,

always something up with this.

And what was the emphasis?

You could have said in less than 48 hours, a little over 24,

less than a day and a half.

No, 33, 33, 33.

This bugged me to no end.

Well, actually, the best of the group was he said 36 and then he corrected it to 33.

Yes, in less than 36, 33.

To be exact, which is bullcrap because we all know anyone who's ever worked for a living or done anything, you can't pinpoint

your success at a certain number of exact hours to be exact.

That's not even possible.

No.

So this was.

So it's code.

Of course, it's code.

And all of the stuff that's coming out and the

information that's from sources, because mind you, I don't think there's been an official FBI

notice.

Has this person even been officially charged yet?

Because on Saturday, Cash Patel was very clear.

We have 36 hours to file charging documents.

So

this person hasn't even officially been charged as far as I know.

The whole thing stinks.

We were at, there was a big benefit concert last night

for, you know, for the flood victims.

Trace Atkins performed.

If you've never seen Trace Atkins, man, that guy is good.

But my buddy Mike, the sheriff, he was in charge of a lot of the security there.

And he came right up to me.

He said, Adam,

we, you know, I guess they may have some inside knowledge.

I don't know if Gillespie County Sheriff's Office gets that or not.

But he said, two.

It seems unlikely, but okay.

Well, they talk, you know, people talk.

And so, whatever talk there is, I'm just passing it on.

He says, one, no way.

He says, no way this went down the way they're saying it.

And then another thing which I found curious, he says, we've got a video with audio of two shots.

That I'm like, okay, well, send.

He hasn't sent it to me yet, but I said, send it to me.

I'd love to hear that.

But it could also be, it could be a a ricochet.

It could be an echo.

No echo.

But it's not like these guys don't know what that sounds like.

So the whole thing was,

everything's off about it.

And,

you know, it just, you know, we've got the etchings on the casing, which we still have not seen.

We've only heard about it.

And we have.

Yeah, where's the photo?

Exactly.

Yeah, at least with the other guy, they showed us, you know, his video showing all the etchings and commentary.

They showed it and put it online.

Almost like that was predictive programming.

You know, it's like, like well it'll be just like that you saw it you saw it with that other guy so you know it's the same here

the whole thing is just uh

hmm

well

it's one of those things we can't do anything about except note it well because we don't know no no but it but it leaves it leaves so much open and i think that's exactly the point

Yes, I mentioned that in the newsletter today yesterday, which is that

this could lead, especially if something happens to this character.

Oh, yeah.

Which

they were screwed.

How likely is that?

Gee,

I'd be stunned.

Yeah.

And so we'd be stuck with this kind of speculation forever.

This is like a real time sink.

What's interesting about this particular case is the amount of stories coming out about people getting fired for their response online.

And I just pulled one story from Ohio, which actually has three stories in it.

Just because you have a computer or phone handy doesn't mean you can say whatever you want.

Monroe Falls City Council Vice President John Empelazzari is feeling the heat after posts criticizing Charlie Kirk, saying in part, quote, the world is a better place now that he's gone, end quote.

And 19 News has confirmed a Cleveland firefighter and EMS staff member are under internal investigation after the city was made aware of social media activity.

Cleveland attorney Danny Karen says the First Amendment protections are not limitless.

There are certain restrictions on the First Amendment, but as it concerns kids, teachers, whomever popping off, counsel people popping off online, saying awful incendiary things, not real smart.

Why?

Because a lot of us have codes of conduct or codes of ethics that control our work experiences.

You may be surprised to learn it does not matter if you're a government employee or work for a private company.

By the way, all the reports are similar to this.

It's like

they keep talking about this thing called free speech, which I'm not sure what that is.

It's just, you know, what used to be called freedom of speech is now just free speech.

Like, you don't have to pay.

It's like a podcast.

It's free.

You don't have to pay for it.

It's free, free speech.

And that this is, they're kind of turning it into a debate about, you know, well, I have the right to say whatever I want to say, which is ludicrous.

But the reason this is interesting is these city council council people,

other officials, like in the fire department, people at schools, the reason they said this stuff is because they clearly thought everybody agrees.

This is what's so eye-opening.

Can you hear me?

Yeah, can you not hear me?

No, it was my fault.

This thing goes, it mutes itself.

I was just going to say, in that list of people that you're talking about, you know who else got nailed?

Who?

George Conway.

Oh, really?

Interesting.

George Conway posted a picture comparing Charlie Kirk to some Jugend Nazi from the 30s and had a picture of them side by side.

And he's just getting blessed.

And this is, you know, every time I see this character who's just a lunatic, how did he ever hook up with Kellyanne Conway, who's a...

Power, baby.

Political power.

He had political power at the time.

That's what it was.

But do you understand?

She was an idiot.

But let's just go back to the point I'm trying to make here, is that they clearly thought it was okay

to post this,

whatever the post was, you know,

it varied from, you know, oh,

well, yeah, he said that some victims would have to fall for, you know, for defending the Second Amendment to good riddance, all these.

But I'm convinced that these people truly believed that everybody around them had the same opinion.

Well, wait, wait.

You had a thing about pre-programming earlier in your little commentary here.

Yes, yes.

How about Luigi?

There you go.

There's the pre-programming because everybody was all in love with Luigi and nobody got burned for it.

Exactly.

Ah, very good point.

Very good point.

Huh.

Isn't that interesting?

Well, and these guys are getting burned.

Really?

the Libsa Tic-Tac girl.

Yeah.

She has been posting one teacher after, because

she really goes after teachers.

One teacher after another who have posted some nasty stuff and names the school and everything.

And she always finishes with the same line.

Do you want this person teaching your children?

Doesn't that prove the point?

That the entire education system believes that this was okay.

This is okay.

Everybody agreed.

Hey, if you could come back and kill baby Hitler in a time machine, wouldn't you do it?

Well, sure, I would.

Which brings me to the super cut.

I've got a better one than the one we just kind of hastily patched together on Thursday.

This is primarily MSNBC.

Primarily.

But it's not just talking heads.

It's, you know, the guests.

It's captains of of industry.

Of course, Nancy Pelosi's in there as well.

And when you listen to it in this context of just a supercut,

you go, well, yeah, of course I would come back and kill baby Hitler and Goering and Goebbels and every single one of

the Hitler Jugends, which, well, listen.

We have to start calling his

supporters racist as well.

That MAGA symbol has come to represent something.

It is the new Nazi symbol.

It is the new kud.

Because they're not a party, right?

They're Sinn Féin to the IRA.

They're the PLO to Hamas.

They're a dime store front for a terrorist movement.

The Republican Party is basically a domestic terrorist cell at this point, and they should be treated as such.

There are elements of the GOP that are starting to look like the jihadists.

Not a political party.

They're a white nationalist movement.

They're a fascist threat to our nation.

That's not hyperbolic.

That's academic.

Would have once seemed hyperbolic, but it increasingly does feel like the Republican Party has become a death cult, and it's all about Donald Trump.

There is no alternative right now because the Republican Party project today is a fascist authoritarian project.

Fact is Republicans in Congress are still in the grip of the ultra-mAGA agenda.

The party of dupes, party of knuckleheads, party of weirdos, party of freaks.

That is a simple, simple message.

And underneath that, it's the party of nothings.

It has become an authoritarian-embracing cult.

It is fascist.

We take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting system and our honoring our Constitution are right at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue with their allies in the Congress of the United States.

Trump's modern-day

Gestapo is scooping folks up off the streets.

They're in unmarked vans wearing masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons.

No chance to mount a defense.

Not even a chance to kiss a loved one goodbye.

Just grabbed up by masked agents, shoved into those vans.

The old films of the Gestapo grabbing people off the streets of Poland, and you compare them to those nondescript thugs who grabbed that student, that graduated student.

It does look like a Gestapo operation.

Because if we just roll this clock on the wall back 75 years, we'd be looking at a time in Nazi Germany.

where people ran around with signs like this new ICE sign that says report all foreign invaders to ICE with Uncle Sam there holding up the sign.

This could have been a Gestapo member 75 years ago.

Report all Jews.

Bolts of authoritarian personality in league with autocrats and kleptocrats and dictators all over the world.

And taking direct aim at our democracy.

Autocratic-leaning remarks he has made in recent weeks and months, such as ones that echo Hitler.

Hitler in 1933 was talking about his designs on America.

And Hitler described, you could get Americans to give give up their own democracy and to be ready for a fascist takeover.

It's a disaster.

We need extreme measures.

Now, it's not that all the kids in the world are watching MSNBC, but you know, every single teacher is.

Because remember the liberal school teacher from Austin who we used to hang out with, who we don't anymore?

She watched MSNBC religiously.

It was her church.

So

this is what's happening.

Yeah, well, that's why they had to, that's why Brian Roberts, the CEO of Comcast, who owns MSNBC, had to spin it off.

Yes,

he wanted out.

By the way, I have

the Fox.

Actually, this might have been the last moment that Fox News talked about the trans part of this story.

Frankie!

Fox News Alert, FBI sources tell Fox News Digital that the man charged with assassin.

Okay, so the FBI sources, FBI sources,

who do they call?

Fox Digital.

Really?

That's who they call?

Wouldn't they be calling Hannity?

No, we're calling F.

Hey, boys, let's leak some information.

Let's call Fox Digital.

Yeah.

Fox News Alert, F.

News.

FBI sources tell Fox News Digital that the man charged with assassinating Charlie Kirk was living with a transgender partner.

Bureau officials confirmed that Tyler Robinson was in a romantic relationship with someone transitioning from male to female.

They say that individual is fully cooperating with their investigation, claims to have had no idea of Robinson's plans, and is not currently accused of any criminal activity.

No, thank you very much for that update.

Want to hear some of the.

I know you have some analysis.

I think I can predict the quote from that

trans woman

when

she, he, they, I don't know what her pronoun is, nobody told me.

Uh,

the first thing she said was,

You did what?

Okay.

No, it's ruined, it's going to ruin that person's life.

It's going to ruin the family, the family of the kid.

Luna is

the person's name, Luna.

Luna.

It was Twiggs.

Well, no, that's the online.

I don't know.

Who cares?

Well, who cares?

Luna Twiggs.

Yeah, Lance S.

Twiggs, also known as Luna.

And by the way, big mistake in this whole thing.

Sorry to say it, but why doesn't

Tyler Robinson have a middle name?

This is not a good.

This is not a good.

We're missing a middle name.

You have to have a middle net 33, which means three names.

Yeah, we got to have the middle name.

So something's up here.

You want to just hear some of the morning shows since we got them from this morning.

This is all the latest stuff.

Yeah, most of my stuff is the analysis clip.

Yeah, which is important.

I want to hear.

We'll play those afterwards.

I want to hear the morning shows, I'm sure, were gems.

Here's ABC this week.

This morning, the New York Times is reporting that in the hours after Charlie Kirk's murder, his alleged gunman, Tyler Robinson, was messaged in a group chat by an acquaintance jokingly questioning where he was, suggesting he resembled the man police were looking for.

According to the Times, Robinson responded that his doppelganger was trying to get me in trouble while making other jokes about the manhunt, including saying he was actually Charlie Kirk.

ABC News has not independently verified those messages.

Authorities announcing the way you hear that insert.

Hey, hey, guys.

Listen, you just said that.

We need to add a little disclaimer there that we haven't independently verified what the New York Times said, please, because you never know.

It could be bull crap.

Including saying he was actually Charlie Kirk.

ABC News has not independently verified those messages.

Authorities announced.

Did you hear the insert?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You could hear it as a zip in.

The arrest of 22-year-old Tyler Robinson on Friday.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

We got him.

But until his capture, the suspect had been an unknown man in grainy surveillance images.

Images authorities say were recognized by the suspect's own father.

A family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident.

Authorities tell ABC News hundreds of investigators stitched the alleged gunman's path from the moment he drove onto campus at 8:29 a.m.

on Wednesday.

TMZ obtaining this video appearing to match the description of the shooter, who police say appears to walk with a stiff right leg

and that his ability to bend his right leg appears to be restricted.

Law enforcement sources tell us investigators believe Robinson was hiding his lawn gun under his clothing.

And at some point, authorities say he changed into the outfit seen in photos released during the manhunt and climbed up a campus stairwell to a roof at about 11:50 a.m.

And then he's seen dressed in a black cap, sunglasses, and a black shirt emblazoned with an American flag and an eagle.

Yeah, missing everywhere is him reassembling a gun that was either in his backpack or walking with a four-foot-long rifle with his legs bent up the stairs.

I mean,

they showed the FBI showed a picture, apparently, it's an FBI picture, with the scope mounted in, according to our experts, the wrong spot.

It's just like the whole thing, it's still the 33s.

That got me right away.

I'm like, okay.

Yeah, the 33 is a problem.

And it's trying to get a problem.

Since TMZ was mentioned in there,

I didn't get any clips of this, but I should have.

There's a couple out there that are good.

Harvey's, you know, TMZ, I think, is owned by Fox.

And Harvey was

turned

pale white and came on and did a thing because during the announcement of the

death of Charlie Kirk, there were cheers, cheers, the staff.

And this has been posted over and over again, showing the exact timeline.

I know.

They had all the time codes.

Sleuths are on the case.

I'm telling you, the online sleuths are unbelievable.

So they had the time codes, the things all synced up, and they obviously were cheering the exact same moment that they had made this announcement.

Harvey came on later in the show and said, though, it was because they were watching.

Police chase.

Police chase.

and it was bull crap.

And he was not, he was shook.

He says, We wouldn't have people working here that would do that

when, in fact, he's like a Trump hater, and so he's only going to hire other people of like mind.

And it's just, it's, it's pathetic.

And as Charlie Kirk fired up the crowd, tossing hats, authorities say the suspect crouched and waited

at 12:22 p.m., they say Robinson sprang, no longer longer limping, into position on the roof, then lay down in a sniper position about 175 yards from the stage.

One minute later, as Charlie Kirk was answering a question.

Now, listen to the edit on this.

You think Fox didn't want to talk about the trans information?

Listen to the edit this one.

One minute later, as Charlie Kirk was answering a question about gun violence, police say the suspect fired.

Do you know how many mass heaters there have been in America over the last 10 10 years?

That sounds like they're not sounding gang violence.

Great.

They pulled out the whole trans shooter thing.

Wow.

Pulled it out.

Pull it out.

That is deceptive and not news.

Who is this again?

This is ABC This Week.

From this morning.

That is, that is

disturbing.

What's more than that, it is disgusting that they can't even present.

I don't know.

This is annoying.

Let's listen to the man of the day, Mike Johnson, appearing everywhere.

Don't worry, Mike's okay, though.

The burdens of speakership are always manifold.

You know that.

Previous speakers I've covered know that.

But they feel particularly heavy after the events of this week.

I just want to ask you, Mr.

Speaker, how are you doing?

I'm doing okay, Major.

Thanks for asking.

No question, it was a difficult week.

It's so hard for me.

For the country.

Certainly.

He had his throat.

He had a cough cough tell, too.

Yeah, let's listen to that again.

Thank you, Mr.

Speaker.

How are you doing?

I'm doing okay, Major.

Thanks for asking.

No question, it was a difficult week for the country.

Certainly, it was felt on Capitol Hill.

There's a mixture of anger and sadness and fear, frankly, on the part of a lot of people.

It cast a large shadow across the country and the nation's capital.

But what I do know, Major, is that my good friend Charlie would not want any of us to be consumed by despair.

He would want us to go forward boldly.

That was his message.

And to do it in love.

And I think that, I hope, is the message that continues in the days ahead.

Yeah, this is interesting.

So we're getting, well, actually, you'll hear it in

the next two clips that now all the politicians are very concerned for their safety.

Mr.

Speaker, you mentioned the word fear a moment ago.

It is on the lips of members of Congress in ways I've never experienced before.

They are talking openly.

They already have canceled events.

Other members are talking about whether or not it's proper in their family family conversations to seek re-election.

That's a great way to honor Charlie, to cower.

That's a great way to do it.

Cower and not show up in public.

That honors Charlie Kirk's memory.

Very good.

How do you feel this particular space of anxiety for your membership, Republican and Democrats?

Space of anxiety, wow.

Yeah, well, I've been talking with a lot of them over the last few days about that and trying to calm the nerves to assure them that

we will make certain that everyone has the level of security that's necessary, that the resources will be there for their residential security and their personal security.

We're evaluating all the options for that.

But I think if we all adopt these practices together and we turn down the rhetoric, we cease with this idea that

policy disputes are somehow an existential threat to democracy or the republic.

We stop calling one another names.

I mean, calling people Nazis and fascists is not helpful.

Look, there are some deranged people in society.

And when they see leaders using that kind of language, so often now, increasingly, it spurs them on to action.

We have to recognize that reality and address it appropriately.

And I'm heartened to know, Major, and to see that many of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle are stepping up and saying that and addressing it.

I think this could be a turning point,

frankly, to use Charlie's term, for the country.

And I hope that's true.

You know, I will tell you that if if this is what I think it may be, which is part of a larger operation

to sow discord in the United States, to get people to hate each other even more than they already did in our country, I would be looking more towards other very big

conservative voices.

If I were any of those big podcasters, that's who should be careful.

That's interesting that you say that because

Tim Poole was on Jesse Waters.

Yeah, huh?

You got a clip?

I had a clip.

Did you have a clip?

I should have got the clip.

I didn't get it.

I have a lot of clips, but I can't get every clip that no, no, no.

You can just tell us what he said.

I, of course, did not see this.

So what did he say?

He said he has a contingent of bodyguards, and he's had him for quite a while.

He went on and on about it.

I mean, he was actually quite, I should have recorded it now that I think about it, because Tim Poole was quite erudite in discussing this,

and it would be worth recording.

But he did mention in the process that, yes, he had, he talked about the security that Kirk had.

He says he's got the same security.

He's got, he's because he's under a constant threat, I guess.

Is anybody care that much about Tim Poole?

I'm thinking bigger than Tim Poole.

I don't want to name names.

I know, but I'm just saying at the Tim Poole level, you have this.

I don't know who bigger would be Joe Rogan.

He's the biggest.

No, you've got Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson.

You've got

Tucker's up there.

You've got people up there.

If this is what I think it is, we'll get to that much later.

But first of all, we've got to blame it on something.

What?

I'm in that camp.

I don't see this as being anything more than it is.

No, that's fine.

That's fine.

I just have ideas, ideas, and thoughts.

But first, we need to blame it on something.

This is still CBS,

face the nation.

Good to take a closer look at the problem of political violence in America.

And we're joined now, I'm glad to say, by University of Chicago Professor Robert Pape.

He's the founding director of the Chicago Project on Security and Threats.

Now, listen to this guy because his numbers are all over the place.

Professor, it's great to have you with us.

Thanks for joining us.

What are the trend lines and what is the key terminology you want my audience to understand?

We are now in a watershed moment.

Watershed.

What I call the era of violent populism in America.

This era is defined first and foremost by two factors.

Trump and Trump.

Number one, a rising tide of political violence on both the right and the left.

Our center at the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats, we have been conducting highly reliable national surveys on political violence, the support for political violence among Americans for over four years.

Stop the clip.

So, who is he to say out of the blue, highly reliable political survey?

Oh, it gets better.

It gets much better.

I mean, immediately, that's

a red flag for a guy who's full of shit.

Of course.

Our center at the University of

the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats.

We have been conducting highly reliable national surveys on political violence, the support for political violence among Americans for over four years.

We see

this in the summer of 2021.

Our most recent

survey in May found higher levels of support for political violence on both the right and the left than we have ever seen.

Okay, hold on.

He's had this highly reliable information for four years.

And now the information shows it's worse than we've ever seen.

But he wasn't surveying anything before four years ago.

No, the evidence is just the opposite too.

I mean, I went through the 60s and 70s where

you had unbelievable political violence.

Besides, you know, starting, it actually started with the death of Ken, with the assassination of Kennedy, the assassination of RFK, and then the assassination of

Martin Luther King, who is the highest order guy you can kill.

There was Huey Newton was killed in Oakland.

There was a bunch of

Larry Flint, the publisher of

Hustler magazine, was shot and

George Wallace was shot.

Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was shot.

George

Ford, Gerald Ford was shot or shot at twice, and you ended up with over a thousand bombings in the 70s.

And this is what we're seeing now.

This stuff that's going on now is worse.

Are you kidding me?

Well, we can all blame it on one obvious thing.

Does your research buttress the point that both Senator Lankford and Senator Coons made, which is the internet is an accelerant and an amplifier?

It's an accelerant, but it's not the root cause.

So studying this problem now for five years, I've found that just as around the world, big social change drives political violence.

We see this in other countries around the world, but the details of the change vary.

We are now moving for the first time in our country's 250-year history.

Okay, what are we moving towards?

Come on, we've got to blame it on something.

What can we blame it on?

What are we moving toward in our 250-year history?

First time in 250-year history.

We're not

from my perspective, we're moving toward nothing different, but I could see that somebody who's a lunatic that's been studying this four years, as you said earlier, then he suddenly says five years, which I find interesting.

Contradiction,

probably fascism.

No, much simpler.

Come on.

Simpler.

Here we go.

Populism is a...

Oh, no, no, here we go.

From a white majority democracy to a white minority democracy.

It's racism.

In 1990, we were 76% non-Hispanic white.

Today, we're 57% non-Hispanic white.

It will be another 10 years, maybe 15, if we deport a lot of those undocumented illegal immigrants before we make the transition to a truly white minority democracy.

Well, this generational change has happened.

It started about 10 years ago, with a real tipping point generation and corresponds with the rise of Donald Trump, why his issue of immigration is meteoric, why he

has morphed from immigration meaning stop people crossing the border to now deporting mass numbers of people.

Because there are people on the right who want to stop or reverse this, and also the virulent reaction to Donald Trump on the left.

This guy is an agent.

Parts of the left who want to keep this going.

This is really the tap route.

And that's why we expect this left to its own devices will get worse and be with us for 10 years.

I've never, I

the term taproot is funny.

It's a it was a no, that's that.

That's not a term that's used in academia, that is a term that's used someplace else.

That's a milieu term that's used someplaces.

I don't know where we can probably find it.

You know, if we do enough research, it could be an Intel term.

We don't know.

Well, the only other place I've ever heard taproot

is it was an addition to Bitcoin

about

seven years ago that enabled the Lightning Network.

And it was called Taproot.

When we asked the computer, should we ask the computer?

Oh, I think we

she needs to.

Yes, I think this is a great addition to the show.

Except for the fact that there's a lag.

Well, I'm going to try to- By the way, this lag is not as bad as that old lag you used to have with that other device.

Oh, well, that was when I was still using a lesson.

Well, that was that was a lecture.

That was terrible.

Okay.

Error,

what is the origin of the term tap root?

It comes from botany, describing a plant's main root that digs deep like a tap root, while others branch out shallowly.

First used in the 17th century, think tap as in a spout or peg, implying something central and piercing down.

Not related to modern taps like faucets, though.

So it's a botanist.

It did suck.

I think the question was asked poorly.

By the way, so JC was at dinner recently, and he, who was very deeply involved in all this,

he had told me there's three huge flaws that everybody in the business knows about AI.

And one of them, which I thought was the, I don't remember the other two.

I'll get him and write them up or something.

You'll get them.

We'll get him.

We'll get to him.

But the one of them that was the most fascinating to me is that they can't learn from the questions or the corrections you make to them.

Oh, no, of course not.

That wouldn't imply memory.

They have their corpus and they use that.

And you say, no, no, that's not true.

You know,

what you should know is that I'm actually, to tell them, say about yourself, I'm actually the inventor of podcasts.

Oh, yes, okay, you are.

They'll say that back to you, but then it won't go back into the corpus.

They don't learn that.

They'll have the same bogus answers later.

It can't go into the corpus because that has to translate into tokens, and that costs a lot of compute.

Compute way too much.

It's massive compute.

So there's no interaction whatsoever in a real sense.

So, taproots, though.

Anyway, maybe one of our

terms.

Hold on, hold on.

You can ask the question.

Hold on.

Ready?

Go.

What is the use of the term taproot in the intelligence community or other social networks?

Whoa.

Wow.

Wow, we got nothing.

It wouldn't answer it.

Okay.

That's odd.

I don't know what to say.

You want to try it again?

Yeah.

I'll try it.

I'll reword it a little bit.

How is the word or phrase taproot used in the intelligence community or other social networks?

It's literally not registering you, John.

Well, maybe it's not being fed to her properly.

Let me see.

How is the term taproot used in intelligence or other networks?

Taproot pops out in intelligence and network context, too, borrowing from the plant idea, a hidden central root feeding everything else.

In cyber ops, it's slang for a covert command hub in espionage nets, like a deep, undetected node coordinating spies or malware.

Some sources link it to blockchain privacy upgrades on Bitcoin.

Wow.

Wow.

Okay.

Well, that's interesting.

Yeah,

so it is used in Intel and that guy, and I know it's not used in academia.

Huh.

So that guy is something else.

Yeah, he's something else, all right.

Well, you spotted it.

Yeah, like top root.

It's like, because that's, I've heard it in the context of Bitcoin.

Okay.

So

now we have to listen to what exactly that guy said again.

Hold on a second.

It was somewhere here.

Let's listen.

And that's one of the reasons why I ran in May found higher levels of support for political violence on both the right and the left than we have ever seen.

And that's one of the reasons why I rang the alarm bell with that big op-ed in the New York Times, National Surveys on Political Violence, the support for political violence among Americans for over four years.

We started this in the summer of 2021.

No, sorry.

Now I want to know.

Change has happened, started about 10 years ago, where the real tipping point generation and corresponds with the rise of Donald Trump, why his issue of immigration is meteoric, why it's morphed from immigration meaning stop people crossing the border to now deporting mass numbers of people, because there are people on the right who want to stop or reverse this and also the virulent reaction to Donald Trump on the left, on parts of the left, who want to keep this going.

This is really the tap route and that's why we need to expect this left to its own devices.

What do you make of that then in that context?

I don't know.

It's just almost like code.

He's using it casually, which is

that's the weird thing.

Yeah.

He's using it.

Yeah, that's because it's in his milieu, it's a casual word that actually means a lot to that group.

Well, maybe he's a botanist.

We don't know.

We're not in that group, so we don't know what it means.

He could just be a botanist for all we know.

In his spare time, he's not a bad person.

He's not a botanist.

He's gardening.

He's gardening.

He's not a botanist.

And if he is intelligence of

whatever, whoever with, I mean, there's so many now who can tell, but it's

a globalist opinion that needs to be rooted out of our intelligence community.

There you go.

All of them.

There you go.

So I want to get to, I have two more and then we'll get to your analysis clips.

This was a cute idea.

I appreciated it.

Everyone was tagging me, sharing this.

I'm like, we need to just explain once again what this particular act was and how this is a misunderstanding of it to some degree.

President Trump, as a supporter who voted for you three times, I am hoping and praying that you will revisit what Barack Obama and Joe Biden got rid of back in 2013, which is the Smith-Munt Act, which held news corporations accountable for lying to the American people and spreading propaganda instead of truth.

Okay, that's the problem.

The Smith-Munt Act did not hold news organizations accountable.

The Smith-Munt Act was specifically forbidding the American government from propagandizing its own people.

And the biggest perpetrator of this was the Voice of America group, the broadcast board of governors, i.e.

Tucker Carlson's dad's position back in the day.

And

the act was reformed, i.e.

struck

as a part of the National Defense Authorization Act, because we could no longer

the way the wording was is we can no longer propagandize the rest of the world if we're using the Internet because invariably we're going to be propagandizing Americans.

Now, that doesn't

in no way

can it ever, should it ever

stop news organizations from doing whatever they want to do.

On the sideline of that, I will say that

looking at Operation Mockingbird, obviously, if you have government agents functioning inside your organization, which is where all this came from ultimately, because they were writing the stories.

They were for CBS News.

They were writing the stories for Newsweek, et cetera.

I think it was Newsweek.

So obviously, when you let on a whole bunch of these ex-agents, ex-intelligence officer, ex-generals, when you let them on the air and let them do their thing, obviously that's propaganda, but it's not really the news network.

So, you know, and it's and it's honestly very un-American and unconstitutional for people to be calling to hold the news agencies to account.

That's

bull crap.

And this whole thing was, this little pitch by this girl

went on and on and on about it.

Completely misleading, and it was reposted by Trump himself, or at least whoever was.

Well, of course, that's what you do, but it's a troll.

But it is a bad, it is a miss, it's a misdirection, if ever there was.

It's bull crap.

Yeah.

So, because people got all excited.

Yeah, man, you guys talked about Smith Month.

Yeah, this is what he's talking about.

Then bring it back.

But that's, you can't stop it.

I know.

It just kills me that it's so easy.

But she does such, she's almost like a pro.

She's non-discriptive, you know, plain Jane.

And she's

and she's presenting it as in some reason in a very reasonable fashion.

and it's just BS.

Yeah.

I'll come back after your analysis clips with some Chris Kuhn stuff, but I just could not resist because they did an emergency pod.

We have to do an emergency pod right away.

Emergency pod, everybody.

Here we go with the liberal intellectual elites of Pivot.

Officials say Robinson made incriminating statements to relatives and sent Discord messages about retrieving a rifle from a drop point.

Investigators also say they found on messages messages on the ammunition, the bullets, including

investigators?

No.

You just heard sources, Kara Schwisher, great journalist that you claim to be.

From a drop point.

Investigators also say they found.

No investigator has said anything.

Great journalist that you are.

A rifle from a drop point.

Investigators also say they found on messages, messages on the ammunition, the bullets, including anti-fascist slogans and references to video games and online memes, and also an anti-gay remark.

Robinson is a registered voter in Utah but doesn't have a party affiliation.

His family seems to be Republican,

Christian

gun-oriented, as many people in Utah are.

Are you gun-oriented?

Gun-oriented where they own a gun shop?

No, what's a new type of gender?

I'm gun-oriented.

Scott, what are your initial thoughts when you heard about this suspect?

Well, my initial thoughts are how disappointed Representative Mays, President Trump, and Jesse Waters might be that it's not a transgender woman with blue hair working on immigration for AOC.

Yeah.

That was your first thought.

Exactly.

They have all promised us in exchange for this needless death that they were going to declare war.

And so my question is, are they going to declare war on young white heteros?

Did Jesse Waters declare war?

He just declared war.

Well, they say that.

In fact,

the response, I think, is pretty well put by the guy who was the governor of Utah.

It's everyone's calm.

It's not like what happened with George Floyd.

No, no, they're going to declare war.

All promised us that in exchange for this needless death that they were going to declare war.

And so my question is: are they going to declare war on young white heterosexual men who come from Mormon families who traditionally have voted Republican or gun owners?

So the notion somehow that they are trying to pin this on, quote-unquote, the radical

left

is just so

insane.

It's eminently clear this kid was online, deeply and unfortunately online.

Deeply online, I would say.

There are two very obvious common-sense solutions that unfortunately cost a lot of money or diminish the shareholder value of key companies that are driving our entire economy and get in the way of the political narrative of special interest groups in charge right now.

The first and most obvious solution is that Australia and the UK just don't have cultures that much different than us.

The last time they had a mass shooting, they put in place sensible gun control.

What do you know?

No mass shootings since Charlie Kirk.

You know what's amazing?

Somehow, Scott Galloway, who lives in London currently and clearly knows what's going on in Australia, he doesn't see the knives, the machetes, the zombie knives.

Are you kidding me now?

Did you see the girl who was slaughtered on the train?

Was that a gun?

No.

Okay, mass shootings.

Maybe that's what he's looking at.

Mass shootings.

Was murdered.

More people people have been shot and killed in the U.S.

and will be shot and killed in the U.K.

over the next year.

The U.K.

will lose 30 people.

He says we shot and killed.

Are you shooting and killing people over there, Scott?

Charlie Kirk was murdered.

More people have been shot and killed in the U.S.

and will be shot and killed in the UK over the next year.

Or will be.

The U.K.

will lose 30 people to gun violence in the next 12 months.

We lose 120 people a day.

That's a lot.

In numbers,

if you want to take down political violence and all gun violence, you just have to have sensible gun reform.

Okay.

Yeah, that's it.

That will do it.

Sensible gun reform.

It's new, sensible.

Yeah.

All right.

That's probably a new one.

You're going to hear it again.

Sensible gun control.

Yeah, we'll put it in the book.

All right.

You got some analysis.

Well, first, let's start with just the NPR overview clip.

This is Kirk Killer, NPR.

Okay.

The 22-year-old man accused of killing Charlie Kirk is being held without bail in Utah.

And as Steve Futterman reports, Kirk's widow made her first public comments hours after escorting his body home to Arizona from Utah.

Erica Kirk blamed what she called evildoers for the death of her husband.

The movement my husband built will not die.

It won't.

I refuse to let that happen.

Since Tuesday's killing, there have been vitriolic debates in public and on social media between supporters and opponents of Charlie Kirk.

The governor of Utah, Spencer Cox Friday, urged people to take a break from social media.

The tone, he said, must calm down.

This is our moment.

Do we escalate or do we find an off-ramp?

It's a choice.

Investigators are still trying to determine if some specific thing triggered Tyler Robinson.

He will be formally charged next week.

All right.

So he will be charged.

Okay, so now I've got two series here.

One is Robinson the Killer.

And this, I believe, is from NPR.

And this, you'll start with Robinson the Killer Analysis, NPR.

A man accused of killing Charlie Kirk is being held without bail at a Utah jail today.

22-year-old Tyler Robinson allegedly fired the single shot from a high-powered rifle that on Wednesday killed the conservative activists and media personality known for his appeal to young people.

Police arrested Robinson Thursday night.

Steve Futterman joins us from outside the Utah County Jail in Spring Fork, Utah.

Hi, Steve.

Hi there, Scott.

So Robinson is being held where you are now.

Officials said yesterday they don't believe anyone else was involved.

Is that still the case?

Yeah, yes.

However, like any investigation, authorities want to go through things like Robinson's cell phone, any computers he used, and they want to speak with those who knew him.

Now, yesterday, officials said that Robinson had expressed negative views about Charlie Kirk, and one of those unused bullet casings had the words, hey, fascist, catch, written on it.

But if the motive was political, like it appears to be to some, officials want to know if there was something that pushed Robinson over the edge last night we heard from Charlie Kirk's widow tell us about that yeah that's right Erica Kirk spoke on a live stream for around 15 minutes she spoke from Phoenix from the same studio that Kirk often used for his podcasts now at times her voice cracked she dabbed her eyes on several occasions but her main message seemed to be that Charlie Kirk's movement will continue And Erica Kirk blamed what she called evildoers for the death of her husband.

And as police try to figure out Tyler Robinson's motivations, people who knew him, people in his hometown, are taking this all in.

What are we hearing from them?

Yeah, absolutely.

He lived with his parents in the small southwest Utah town of Washington with a population of around 30,000.

It's not far from the city of St.

George.

We have not heard, at least to this point, any neighbors describe him as odd or acting strange.

People who knew him have told reporters Robinson wasn't necessarily part of the cool kids in high school, but he was well-liked and a good student.

Okay, a couple of things.

One,

now he lives with his parents, according to NPR.

So that's.

And also, then there's there been a disparaging comment, which we heard plenty of.

Yes.

And the second one, just on a sidetrack, I watched Erica's

live stream.

I think that if she, because, you know, man,

how many times have we seen it?

We have a big movement and the leader gets taken out and the movement dies?

And, of course, I saw that in the Netherlands with Pim Fortune

when his party won posthumously as he was assassinated two weeks before the election in Holland, in Holland of all places.

And, of course, the movement became just, you know, without him, it fell apart.

If Erika steps up,

I think Turning Point USA actually has a chance at continuing.

She's got something there.

She can really do this.

Maybe, but

I think your other example,

which is more common, the thing just kind of slowly deteriorates.

Because when you have a charismatic leader that is

not only charismatic, but is an organizational genius,

at least that's the way I see it, it's pretty tough.

And the problem with Charlie Kirk is not what he was saying.

The problem was people were listening.

That's the problem.

And to get people to listen to someone the way they listen to Charlie Kirk, that's tough.

That's going to be tough.

Yes, that charisma is a big piece of it.

Melissa Tate, a neighbor of the Robinson family, told our colleagues at member station K-U-E-R that she worries events like this are becoming more and more normal.

This is everywhere.

Every community, every town, every state.

It's going to be everybody's neighbor, everybody's classmate.

It's not at all unusual anymore.

And of course, it it was Robinson's father who initially confronted his son, telling him that he thought his son was the one being shown in pictures released by police.

Now, on the Utah Valley University.

Do we even know that, by the way?

That still is not.

I mean, I've seen nothing official about this.

And I haven't heard any comments, but if you recall, the early moments.

It was like a minister.

A minister had...

Well, no, it was a friend of his.

He was one of his buddies that talked to the minister who then talked to him, and then he was going to kill himself, and the minister talked him out of it.

And so, you got to turn yourself in.

And then now, somehow, that completely disappeared from the narrative, completely.

Yep.

Shown in pictures.

To the dad.

Yep.

Released by police.

Now, on the Utah Valley University campus where Kirk was killed, there's a sense of relief today that someone has been arrested.

But Raymond Lopez, a nursing student, says there are still plenty of concerns.

My and a lot of our peers, our biggest fear is retaliation or something happening again.

Class has been pushed off till Wednesday.

I will say that I did sign the petition for him not to come because I thought it was going to incite violence.

Sadly, I think that is what happened.

You know, I just had another thought because I got tons of thoughts going through my head about this ever since the 33.

I'm like, okay,

how many times have we seen the FBI itself radicalize someone online for a year, two years, hyping them up, getting them ready, getting them bomb materials, et cetera.

Perhaps just on an off chance, what if, you know, let's hype this kid up?

He'll never, he'll never hit.

He'll never, with that rifle, he'll never hit the mark.

It'll just be a warning shot.

And that could also.

That's funny because there was some guy on one of the

shows that said, this is because there was an argument going on between these people.

Say, there's a professional hit, which we kind of thought it was a professional hit.

And the other guy says there's no chance it was a professional hit.

That guy was just a lucky shot.

Well, show me the forensics.

Show me the cartridges with all these

etching

anything.

One woman that was an ex-Intel person, she said, What's bothering her is they have yet, did they ever find the bullet that hit Kirk?

She says, No one's ever discussed the bullet.

No, where is it?

No, it's it's it's a mess.

This, if this was,

it, it sounds like a typical botched FBI op, to be honest.

It's like, oh, we left too many loose ends.

I don't know.

Well, there's a lot of loose ends.

There's a lot of loose ends on this one.

That's why I wonder if this guy's going to live through this process.

Well, he's in a song.

And they already dropped the bomb.

You know, again, I'm going to bring it back to pre-programming.

In the early reporting that said that the minister had to come in because the kid wanted to kill himself.

He's going to kill himself.

Ah,

yeah, you're right.

Well, he's in a special holding cell where he can't kill himself.

Yeah, right.

He's got cameras.

No worries.

No worries.

No one can get in or out without us seeing it.

No worries.

It would be a tidy way to end this whole thing.

It would definitely make it less messy.

Yeah.

I think there's a third clip here.

So is it fair to say?

Now, at the Utah University campus, there's a growing memorial with flowers.

And the next event we're waiting for is tyler robinson to be formally charged that's expected on tuesday at that time he will make his first court appearance that is steve futterman in spring fork utah thank you so much okay does he have a lawyer where's the lawyer

don't they don't we usually have a lawyer out there saying something

no good point i haven't thought of that okay now now we have a series of clips that are about this expert on polarization.

And these are not necessarily,

they stem from the shooting, but they're more kind of standalone interesting.

And they're called polarization WTF, which means I thought they were interesting.

That's John Speak for that.

That's John Speak for.

Wow, that's interesting.

Yeah, wow, that's interesting.

That's fabulous.

That's fabulous.

Wow, that's fabulous.

Wow, wow, yes.

That's fabulous.

Yes, that's what it means.

That's it.

All right, here we go.

Cynthia Miller Idris is the director of the Polarization and Extremism Research Innovation Lab at American University.

Wow, hold on, this is where they make it up.

The Polarization Research and Innovation Lab?

Are they coming up with new ideas here?

Yeah, this is on PBS and just ran yesterday.

Wow.

Cynthia Miller-Idris is the director of the Polarization and Extremism Research Innovation Lab at American University, and she joins me now.

Cynthia, looking at the pattern of violence in recent years,

What fits into that pattern from this and what might be new?

Well, we've been seeing rising political violence, rising hate-fueled violence for several years now.

We're at a level that we haven't seen since the 1970s.

And over the last couple of years, in the U.S.

in particular, we've seen rising assassination attempts and assassinations as a tactic within that political extremism.

And that's also been happening overseas.

So, you know, I think

it was to be expected that political assassinations would continue if we weren't able to tamp down the rhetoric.

To be expected, to hear those words is really quite stunning.

But you are the one doing the research and you're talking about the rhetoric, which is a big part of the conversation right now.

How much is rhetoric responsible for political violence, and especially that moment where someone isn't just expressing anger, as we see online everywhere, kind of a toxic culture online?

How much does political rhetoric influence someone to move from saying words to doing something violent?

Or does it?

Yeah, I mean, mean,

one of the things we'd seen, and I said this a year ago after Trump, the first assassination attempt against President Trump, was that it was only a matter of time with the kind of rhetoric that we see that we were going to get to political assassination.

So, you know, that's what I mean by expected.

It sounds very cynical, but it was very predictable, you know, shocking but not surprising, is the way that I think of it.

Well, I just look this group up.

I don't know if you had time to do that, but the Polarization and Extremism Research and Innovation Lab is an acronym, Peril.

Peril.

PerilResearch.com.

Their initiatives include gendered violence, anti-Semitism, Community Advisory Resource and Education Centers, i.e.

CARE.

and VEER, the Violent Extremism Education and Resilience.

Let's look at some of their most recent articles.

August 18th, it's been a month.

Meme coins and misogyny.

What the dildo throwing trend at WMBA games can teach us.

August 12th, CDC shootings highlights risk of public health misinformation.

July 29th, why Manosphere content is appealing to some young men.

My goodness.

The fact that these people have money are funded

by the USAID.

Yeah, they should have a podcast at minimum.

Meme coins and misogyny.

That'd be a great podcast.

I'd probably listen to you.

Meme coins and misogyny, everybody.

Yeah, meme coins and misogyny.

That's a show title.

That's a classic.

So the point is that now this person reminds me of the clips you played earlier of the taproot guy who comes out of Park

or Nowhere.

But he's in a milieu.

And just let me ask you a question.

Your PBS

or your CBS, whatever.

And the number one person you call is from Peril Research, that's number one on your call list?

Is that?

I would like to know the mechanism for getting on these shows in this way.

This is not a minor piece.

This is a, I have four clips from it.

And it went on for half the show.

Wow.

This is a major feature on the Saturday show.

Yeah, it's a message, is what it is.

So there is something going on with that.

And the one you played, I think, is the same thing.

It was a messenger that

was hooked in somehow through the booker, or there's, you know, there's who knows

how some of these things work.

I mean, I know how you get on these shows.

You know, the booker producer, and you can get on the show, but the booker producer.

The booker rhymes with, I'm telling you.

Booker.

So the booker producer usually, you know, and you make, and the key, and you know this, and most people have ever done any hits on these different shows, knows that if you make friends with the Booker producer

or one of the lead producers, that's how you do it.

You're good to go.

Yeah, that's why you've done four Rogans.

Six, six Rogans.

But Rogan invites me personally.

Only the first time did it go through was Booker.

Yeah, well, once you, yeah, but you got, well, you hooked up with the real Booker producer.

No, he just called me out of the blue.

No, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah.

He, Rogan, is the real Booker producer.

I'm sorry.

Yes, he's the real.

But I don't say, hey, Joe, time for me to come on again.

No, but you talk to him and you try to keep in touch to the point where he remembers that you can come on at the drop of a hat, which is the great idea.

Yes.

Because somebody's got to be Tony Randall.

Or Regis Philbin.

That's me.

Philbin was not as good as Randall, but Philbin did it too.

Yeah.

All right.

Two.

When you have political rhetoric that consistently positions us versus them in existential terms, when people online are celebrating the assassination of a United Healthcare executive, for example, that kind of violence being valorized, not just seen as a last type of solution, but as an acceptable or even preferable one.

That was an outstanding observation, John.

No doubt because you saw this, it triggered your memory.

But the fact that nobody got burned for celebrating that, that is telling.

There was also celebration.

By the way,

I think her use of the word valorized is dynamite.

Oh, yeah, that is good.

Let's roll that back.

Type of solution, but as an acceptable or even preferable one.

There was also celebration online of this assassination.

And at the same time, we also know there are some supporters of Charlotte Cork who are using more and more sort of warlike kind of talk.

After a tragedy like this, there are all sorts of ways that people deal with the grief.

But where do you think we are right now in the rhetoric about this event?

I think we're at a really very risky moment.

I will say that the elected officials' rhetoric, the bipartisan, mostly bipartisan condemnation of the violence and of

the idea that no one deserves to be shot no matter how much you disagree with them, I think has been very clear.

But among ordinary people, especially young people on social media, we have seen much more divisive rhetoric, both calling for civil war and celebrating the death or the killing of someone with whom people often vehemently disagreed.

And so I think one of the things I've been urging people is to not just look to political leaders for solutions, but look across the dinner table.

That's a moment to engage with dialogue and really try to walk back that rhetoric.

Yeah, okay.

At the dinner table.

Okay.

Hey, son, stop talking that way.

Okay, gone with three.

One thing I've noticed in the past few days is a rise in conservatives doxing or publishing the personal information of people,

individuals who are not remotely famous, who may have, in some cases, celebrated the death of Charlie Kirk, as you said.

That's something obviously deplorable to do.

But in some cases, maybe not gone that far, just offended some folks.

We spoke to someone from Wired magazine who's covering this, talking about specifically this moment.

I've spoken spoken to multiple people this week who have had, you know, their employment terminated as a result of what they posted online.

In some cases, they were celebrating Charlie Kirk's death.

In other cases, it was much, much less than that.

And they were just making points about divisive U.S.

society.

This has been not just about shaming people, but about affecting their lives.

And in some cases, we know there's been death threats as well.

I wonder what you make of this tactic, not just something a few people are doing, but people are collecting databases to do this now.

Yeah, doxing is a very dangerous tactic.

We've seen it from the left and from the right.

And what we've seen over the years is that often when someone is doxed, their personal information

leaked,

there have been cases where people show up at the wrong address where they used to live, let's say, and threaten a kind of innocent family who lives there.

You're putting at risk family members, children, others who might live at that address.

How about the people who actually are meant to be doxed?

That's not dangerous.

So, you know, one of the things I would really urge people to do is avoid that temptation, whatever the motivation to look for accountability.

This is a moment to allow the rule of law, to allow social media policies to

handle that.

Social media policies?

Not social media policies.

And by the way,

what's her name?

Lisa Desjardins.

She goes on, she's all upset about this, but she never has said jack about doxing, you know, the ICE guys.

No, of course not.

Or any police for that matter who have to wear masks because these guys come up to us.

But again,

again, what they're all missing is the fact that all of these people did it because they felt comfortable.

They thought everybody is on, everyone's on board.

Everyone agrees.

Isn't this this is the weak-mindedness of certainly our educators

that, oh, I mean,

everyone thinks this.

I've told my children this.

Everyone knows this.

All my colleagues, they all know that.

You're not going to get an argument from me on that regard.

The fact that they are comfortable,

yes, comfortable.

Talking about some guy getting killed is pathetic.

Well, they didn't, well, you know what?

They didn't get in trouble with Luigi.

That may be part of the mechanism for all we know, John.

Yeah, if it is pretty schemy,

if that's true.

It's very little outrageous.

It's hard for me to believe they're that good.

No, it's always possible.

Now, the last clip is the last clip.

They convinced us we went to the moon.

So, you know, it's like anything's possible.

You got two more clips here.

Oh, you got Trump.

You got Trump.

The Trump stuff now?

Let's see.

Kirk Trump reaction analysis is what I have.

That would be last.

Oh, okay.

I think.

I don't know.

Let me look at these clips.

The third was the last one.

that was the last Robinson that was the last oh right no there should be polarization

I call it wait

I'm just gonna give it a heads up so they go on and on this goes on forever and they this is how they finish it and I'm what listening this says wait a minute that you go through all you make us watch this crap for this period of time I'm doing this by the way in advance of this clip because you're going to do it if I don't this is a they dud out on us in the few seconds we have left here, we've seen these moments in history before where we have assassination attempts happening over a decade or two decades kind of thing before.

But I wonder, you mentioned people need to talk to each other across the dinner table.

What else gets the country out of moments like this?

Facts.

Well, one of the things we really need is more serious and systematic investments in prevention, which is something that other countries have.

We in this country tend to rely on, after the fact, increases in security, better barricades, better security detectors, and that's expensive and it requires a perfection every time.

But you can also invest in helping people be less persuaded by propaganda online, less persuaded by manipulative efforts that say violence is the solution, and help people know how to recognize warning signs and know where to get more help.

Cynthia Miller-Idris, thank you so much for joining us.

All that was missing was her saying, therefore, I recommend listening to the best podcast in the universe, the No Agenda Show, so you will not be radicalized that easily.

You know, the funny irony to that last bit in the commentary is that the United States really can't afford to let people think for themselves that much because the entire advertising model for selling products requires it.

Oh,

our entire system, we've been through this.

The system, yes, the entire system.

I'm just thinking of advertising, but the system requires you be gullible.

Well, not just be gullible, but be outraged.

The constant state of outrage.

That's how our media works.

That's how our politics works.

That's how our social media works, which is why people are getting all of, you know, your algorithms are showing all the things that are going to get you mad.

And the Chinese model, which soon will go away whenever President Trump figures out how to make it American, TikTok, you just get everything you want.

There's no, you know, Facebook does this.

They all do this, like inject stuff, inject stuff, inject stuff, keep you busy, keep you on there.

And that's our, that is, that has always been our model.

Yeah.

So you get what you pay for, which is nothing.

Or junk.

Chinese junk.

It turns out to be currently.

Chinese junk.

Okay.

So I got the, you're right.

Kirk Trump.

I forgot about these clips.

This is another.

I don't know.

I guess all my clips are analysis clips this show.

But Kirk Trump reaction.

This is kind of funny because

they just do everything they can.

It's Trump's fault, by the way.

We're going to take a few minutes now to look at how President Trump has handled all of this.

At difficult moments for the nation, it's often the role of the president to deliver meaning, resoluteness, and calm.

Think of George W.

Bush in the immediate wake of 9-11 as one recent example.

This week, in the hours immediately after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, President Trump took a different approach.

He blamed his political opponents.

Radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives.

Trump said his administration would be coming for people and organizations that contribute to political violence.

NPR senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith joins us now.

Hey, Tam.

Hey, Tam.

Hey, Tam.

Hi, Scott.

You have covered Trump for a long time.

This is, unfortunately, far from the first violent political act that he has had to respond to as president.

So how does his handling here compare to the other times?

Trump and members of his family were quite close to Charlie Kirk, so this attack was personal for Trump.

And his response was immediately partisan.

Compare that to what happened after the shooting at a congressional baseball team practice in 2017.

In that case, Republican lawmakers were targeted by a man who had been a Bernie Sanders supporter.

But in a scripted address, Trump took a very traditional approach and said, the nation is strongest when we are unified.

We may have our differences, but we do well in times like these to remember that everyone who serves in our nation's capital is here because,

above all, they love our country.

And Tam, we have to talk about a big factor here.

The president himself was shot at last summer at that rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Remind us of his rhetoric after that assassination attempt against him.

Yeah, it was interesting because a lot of his supporters were really fast to blame left-wing rhetoric, but Trump was more restrained.

Okay, what's interesting about this clip is there's a little modicum of truth in there where the president said he was going after those that finance it.

Yes, yes.

Exactly.

That's a little different than going after political opponents.

Yes.

But the whole yes,

yes, yes, yes.

The beginning of the clip is a fallacious argument and a false analogy.

He starts off by saying, look at how Bush handled the 9-11 thing.

yeah what the 9-11 wasn't an attack by the democrat party or or or common leftists it was an attack by a foreign entity or whatever or cover story we're going to go with the we're going to go with the cover story okay so we're going to go with that story so so bush isn't about to go and start blaming the leftists i mean it's not going to happen and he says compare that to trump that's not a comparison what are you kidding me so you start at the very beginning of the presentation with a fallacious analogy and you go from there.

But meanwhile, it's just stuck in the person's brain.

We have this.

In other words, the preconceived conclusion is already planted if you don't catch it right away.

This is like a pathological liar talking to you.

The media, pathological liars, what?

If he gets you early, then he'll start to reel you in.

And that's exactly what happens with these guys at NPR do this all the time.

And in that case, the ideology of the shooter who was killed by police is to this day still quite unclear.

His list of potential targets included Democrats and Republicans.

Like we said, unfortunately, a lot of examples to pick from.

But I do want to ask about one recent example a lot of people have brought up this week, and that's the targeted attacks on Minnesota Democrats this past summer that killed former House Speaker Melissa Hortman.

How did Trump respond this summer after those shootings?

Hortman and her husband were murdered.

Another Democratic lawmaker was gravely injured.

It was a targeted attack.

Trump posted about the attack on social media, saying such horrific violence will not be tolerated in the United States of America.

But he didn't get into the partisan nature of the targeting, and he hasn't really mentioned it since.

There was no conclusion on that as far as I can get.

It wasn't partisan.

No, no conclusion.

No evidence of that.

It was probably a, yes.

So this is again, so what they've done is they've already lied to you at the beginning with a false analogy, and then they're starting to reel you in, and then they distract,

they start to drop phony bombs in the middle so they can make the point that Trump's a bad guy.

Yeah, he is.

I mean, is it fair to say that he just downplays it when violence comes from the political right?

Yeah, let me give you another example.

Please.

In 2018, a Trump supporter who sent explosives to Democrats and also CNN was taken into custody.

President Trump responded by praising law enforcement and criticizing the media for mentioning the suspect's political affiliation.

He said the media was using the sinister actions of one individual to score political points against him and Republicans.

Yet when a Bernie Sanders supporter tried to murder congressional Republicans and severely wounded a great man named Steve Scalise and others,

we did not use that heinous attempt at mass murder for political gain because that would have been wrong.

So in 2018, he was saying a partisan response to a terrible crime would be wrong.

But in this case, with the murder of Charlie Kirk, Trump is quite firmly sticking to his view that Democrats and harsh rhetoric on the left are to blame.

You say quite firmly, is it fair to say he has not softened his rhetoric since the alleged assailant was taken into custody?

Right.

He was on Fox and Friends yesterday, and Ainslie Earhart gave him an opportunity to offer a unifying message.

How do we fix this country?

How do we come back together?

I'll tell you something that's going to get me in trouble, but I couldn't care less.

The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don't want to see crime.

They don't want to see crime.

So take that and then compare it to the way he describes the other side.

The radicals on the left are the problem, and they're vicious, and they're horrible, and they're politically savvy.

And in this way, Trump is like so many others in this polarized country who think their side is essentially fine, and it's the other side that's evil.

The difference, of course, though, is that he's the president of the United States.

He has all the power.

I want to take this for me to a conclusion because we need to end this at some point.

We can just go on forever about this.

I'm done.

And this,

you'll roll your eyes, but that's okay because you're used to it by now.

Almost 18 years.

That's right.

So when President Trump talks about those financing this, and we talked about this the other day, and you put the blame on people like Soros as an example, the Open Society Foundation, which clearly is one of his financial motives is to destabilize a currency, a country, anything to hedge.

He's a hedge fund guy.

And that's, so it may not even be that.

He's one of the greatest currency traders in the history of investing.

And he may not even be doing it that much for ideological reasons more than financial.

I mean, that's possible.

We don't really know much about him other than he's kind of creepy.

And it was, there was this one brief moment in kind of the fog of post-this assassination.

When,

and the clip is not widely distributed.

I was able to find it.

You know, it's like on places where

you have that

where they have like an audio watermark.

So I was able to find a version of it without that.

It's only 50 seconds.

I found it without that.

This was Hannity,

which if it was just Hannity, I've been like, okay, whatever.

But it was also John Solomon.

And John Solomon, I think he's pretty good.

with his investigative sourcing because this is all sources.

And this came out and I haven't heard about it since.

I have a source in the intelligence community, John, that said that there might be post-assassination

pieces of a puzzle that might be put together, that there might be a foreign component to it.

Again, we don't know for sure.

I know it's being discussed.

Have you heard the same thing?

Yes, there is a group or two of interest that are in the Salt Lake City area that they're looking at.

Just because of certain recent activities overseas and certain intelligence shared by a foreign friendly from the United States doesn't necessarily mean that it is connected to the shooting.

I suspect, though, it's going to result in some action, even if it's not resulted,

not tied to the shooting.

But there is a small foreign component that's being looked at.

Again, all leads are open.

I don't think they've locked into a final theory of the case yet.

Just thought it was interesting.

Like, huh, okay.

Now, immediately.

I actually saw that.

Yeah.

What was your thought?

My thought was that

they're trying as hard as they can to blame Israel.

And this is kind of a roundabout way of doing it.

And I say that because that meme is floating around.

I think it's silly, but it's floating around.

And it even came to the dinner table because JC

and Jesse both had some thoughts on this that involved Israel.

And he also had a couple other memes that he picked up on.

And one of my favorites, which I observed too, even though thinking about it, I realize it's not really possible to tell.

But when

the kid jumped off the roof and landed like a paratrooper, beautifully, by the way, from a two-story building.

I can't jump off a two-story building.

Not anymore.

Back in the heyday, you could.

I'm not absolutely sure I could ever.

He jumps off the building, lands perfectly, and then runs.

He said, where's the gun?

Where's the gun?

Because he supposedly ran with the gun, but you couldn't see the gun.

but that video was enhanced and enhancement can easily take the gun out of the picture he could have been running with a gun for all we know so i so i'm not i i like the idea that people have all observed is where's the gun where's the gun because he's running like a maniac that at high speeds after jumping off the building and there's no gun that he went to with a towel around it that he ditched

um

and that is suspicious but at the same time that when you do video enhancing it's easy it wipe stuff out.

I mean, I can, you know,

you've done it.

Yeah, but you're floating away from the topic.

The topic was a foreign entity.

Well, yeah, I'm just saying that came up at the conversation, but they also, they were thinking Israel.

And it was like, okay,

I don't know where those sources are.

Oh, it's around.

It's around, yeah, it's around.

Because people hate Israel.

Well, and the reason the younger generation, actually, Charlie Kirk had a roundtable on this, which I listened to.

I won't play the clips, but he had a roundtable.

He was asking them.

And what it came down to was,

we're pissed off because we can't afford our rent, yet we're sending money to Israel.

The fire is here.

Why are you trying to put fires out there?

And that's an under, although that's a misunderstanding of appropriation of money because it's very little compared to

other things the U.S.

government spends its money on.

But the secondary part was interesting,

where they said, well, if people are going to call me an anti-Semite for saying that, for being upset with sending money, supporting Israel with

whatever Israel does with the money, which is killing Palestinians, bombing Qatar, et cetera, maybe drawing us into wars.

Then what the Gen Zers are saying is, and Charlie Kirk agreed with them because he's almost of that, a little bit older, but he's close to that generation.

He said, well, if I'm going to be accused of the crime, I might as well do it.

But that's not where I'm going with this.

I certainly kept that open on Thursday.

Like, well, could this have been some retaliation?

By the way, Israel is not the same as the government of Israel, in my mind.

Bibi Netanyahu has a lot of issues.

But it was, and this is something that Mo tried to explain to me.

And I understood theoretically what he was talking about.

And for a hundred episodes of Mo Facts with Adam Curry, he talked about the white supremacy.

And he was always taking it back to Europe, to the European families.

And that was, it was not a color, it was a system.

And someone sent me this video of these two women.

They're older.

When I say older,

I'm 61.

I'm like, man, I hope I don't look like that when I'm 65.

But they're probably in their mid-60s.

This is one of them, Susan Kokinda.

And they have this group called the Prometheus, what is it called?

Prometheus Action.

And as I was listening, it kind of dawned on me, like, let's just say this was an operation to

destabilize America, destabilize possibly the president's agenda, which I think it actually will have the adverse effect.

I think the enemy always overplays his hand.

But if there has been a destabilizing factor throughout really,

certainly the last 10 years, but maybe forever in the existence of our country, these ladies are very, um, very articulate.

And I have two short clips, both a minute each, just to introduce this to you.

And I'm going to be staying on this.

This is going to be my new, um, is going to be a new theorem for me to stick with.

What if I told you that Donald Trump's biggest enemies are not the Obama, Clinton, Biden networks, whose heads are on the line in the Russiengate revelations, or even the deep state, but it's the European monarchies who have never stopped their war against the American Republic.

Most people think that this is just politics.

Republicans versus Democrats, or maybe America versus the globalists.

You see the daily battles over Ukraine funding, Fed policy, or the environmental regulations as separate issues.

Even Trump's supporters often miss the big picture, focusing on individual bad actors or policy disputes.

But what we're fighting is a system, properly named the Anglo-Dutch system.

And what we're witnessing is unprecedented.

An American president waging direct war against the very Anglo-Dutch system that we fought the American Revolution against.

Trump isn't just fighting globalists.

He's taking on the European monarchy and oligarchy, led by the British monarchy and its Dutch and European partners.

This is what's been bleeding America dry through its central banking system, its environmental death cult, and its endless imperial wars.

I'm Susan Kokinda, and I've been tracking this imperial system for over five decades.

I've documented how these same royal families created the Federal Reserve, launched the environmental movement, and started every major war.

So she had my attention.

I'm like, huh, that's interesting, mainly because...

Since you're Dutch and lived in England.

Yes.

I'm like, huh, okay.

Continue, please.

Today, I'm exposing three fronts in Trump's war against the European oligarchies.

First, how King Charles and the Dutch are desperately keeping Ukraine burning.

Second, how Trump's economic policies are dismantling their centuries-old ideology of environmental destruction.

And third, how his Fed battle strikes at the very heart of the financial empire that's ruled the United States since 1913.

So, why is the Ukraine war continuing when Trump has a clear mandate to end it and he wants to end the killing because of the empire's stranglehold over Europe?

So, look at this.

The very first European country to pony up almost $600 million in arms purchases from the United States to keep the Ukraine conflict going is the Netherlands.

600 million.

That's a small country.

This is the Netherlands, as in the Dutch half of the Anglo-Dutch imperial system.

And the other European countries that immediately jumped in, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.

Notice something?

They're all monarchies.

You can use your favorite AI to look at the ties between these royal families and the British monarchy.

I don't need to use AI because I know the history of the monarchies.

And as I'm thinking about this, I'm like, where did Trump's Russia problems really stem from?

The Steele report, Christopher Steele, former MI6

agent.

We have British journalists showing up in our news all the time because, is that just because they sound authoritative?

Robert Maxwell, very interesting if you tie that into Galaime Maxwell.

Yes, he was an agent, they say.

for Mossad, but he was also an MI6 agent.

This was the big thing, is that he was a double agent.

Soros started his career with banks as part of the City of London, the big banks, ING Group, Dutch, HSBC Holdings, operating from British colonial Hong Kong, Barclays, J.P.

Morgan Chase, now mainly, primarily American, but it has Anglo roots,

Rutgers University, Columbia University, Hofstra, Harvard, Cambridge, Yale, Pharmaceuticals, Glaxo, Viatris, AstraZeneca, Media and Publishing, Read Elsevier, now it's the Relics Group, Thompson Reuters, where most of our news comes from, is regurgitated from Reuters.

Education, Pearson, publishing giant in education.

Energy, Shell, BP,

retail consumer goods for advertising, A-Hold, Dutch,

big corporation, Unilever, Dutch, U.S.,

Dutch, British,

ASML, big part of our chip manufacturing.

I just had never really considered,

particularly seeing now what the EU is doing and how badly they want war and what President Trump, if you look at it in that light and he says, I'm going after the people that are funding all of this stuff.

It put my head in a different space.

And I can't make any conclusions.

I don't know if you're rolling your eyes, but I'm like, you know,

there's something to this, and I'm going to go down this rabbit hole for a while.

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm pleased this punch that Adam is back to his crackpot status, which will improve the show to no end.

People have always bitched and moaned about this, and now it's back.

Well, I can't just do it on demand.

I like it, but hey, I'm not rolling my eyes at all.

I think

it's great.

Well, thank you.

Kind of unexpected, but the thing, the thing that got me was Christopher Steele.

That report, that's what started it.

No, it's a confluence of a whole bunch of things that Christopher Steele is a trigger, but that those women, and when she says she's been doing this for 50 years, I believe she probably has been, and she's probably so deep, deep down in the hole.

that that should provide some very entertaining segments for the show.

Yes, well, you're going to get them for sure.

Yeah, this is great.

Look at this.

This is just what we needed for the second half of the show.

Well, I'm not going to put it in second.

Look at the first big

casualty of Epstein information being released.

UK ambassador to the U.S., Mandelson, one week before President Trump is scheduled to go over there and have some kind of meeting.

It's very possible.

You know, his background is Scottish.

We've actually had clips on this show that indicate that the British in particular, I never thought of the Dutch as part of it, but okay.

The Dutch are one of the largest investors in the United States.

But the British in particular have always been trying to run games on us.

They hate us.

They never got over it.

They never got over it.

I believe that to be true.

They've never gotten over the fact that,

in fact, if you read, I've always noticed this, because I'm a book collector, among other things.

And so I have a lot of history books that were written between 1860 and 1910.

And there's a lot of history books written in there.

And

after World War I, these books all changed.

But before World War I,

these history books, you can read, you can find any old history book and start reading about about the British.

And the hatred and vitriol that is expressed in these history books is unbelievable.

It was just, we hated them and hated them and hated them until they succored us into World War I.

And then all of a sudden, the propaganda machine got into play.

We had the Bernays phenomenon.

We had all these public relations.

All this came into play.

Bertrand Russell.

And the next thing you know, right, Bertrand, who was British.

And the next thing you know, we're big British.

Powers, Austin Powers, big troublemakers, Anglophiles, after hating and hating and hating on them for over 100 years.

Who brought us the slaves?

The Dutch.

Yeah.

They transported.

Who

waged war on China with the opium wars?

Yeah, and we're paying the penalty for that.

And who has an opioid problem right now?

Where are these precursors made?

Could that be one of the big pharmaceuticals?

There's a lot of open questions.

I'll be all in on you doing this.

Well, you just.

Your new beat.

It is my new beat.

And the other thing.

So get off Fox.

There was...

Oh, no,

you're the Fox guy.

I'm not really on Fox.

It was

when Putin and Zi and Modi, they all got together and it wasn't really played up much, but there was, from what I understand, there was talk about building energy projects in Russia with

Westinghouse, which doesn't seem like you're anti-American if you want to build an energy

project in Russia with Westinghouse.

But it was,

it was the finance minister.

I haven't

been able to find it yet.

But he posted two pictures, like meme pictures, like AI generator, like no agenda art generator stuff.

And one was with, you know, like the

panda bear and the Russian bear.

and what do you have for what is India's symbol?

What kind of animal do they have?

It's a good question.

I forget what it is.

Someone in the chat wouldn't repeat.

And so they had those three, and then one underneath it, adding the United States, and it had the U.S.

flag.

And it was, which one would you prefer?

And

I'm just thinking,

you know how Trump really wants to do business with Russia?

President Putin, I got a great relationship with him.

President G, I got a great relationship with him.

Modi, good guy.

Okay, he's impressed with Modi in a different way because if you recall during his first term, he went to a rally.

Yeah,

the big rally in the stadium.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, and

it made Trump's rallies look like small potatoes.

And Trump had these massive rallies compared to everybody else.

Yes, he loved it.

He loved it.

And he was so impressed with it.

Wow, how do you do this?

Hundreds of thousands of people in this massive massive stadium.

So, so just for a moment, I'm just imagining, what if

President Trump is completely savvy to this?

He's known this from the get-go, and this would be the 5D chess that everyone talks about.

And he's like, How do we bring down?

Because remember,

Swift is not run by the Federal Reserve.

Swift is run out of Brussels.

You know, the Bank of the

City of London, they're the ones that screwed up the dollar with the trade that kind of, you know, that necessitated all kinds of changes to the financial systems.

The Forex trade, you know, especially.

The LIBOR scandal.

The LIBOR scandal, which screwed up our interest rates.

All of these things all came out of the Anglo-Dutch monarchy organizations.

I got to come up with a better acronym than these ladies have.

The Anglo-Dutch system is no good.

Yeah, it sucks.

And it's like, you know, the Lymey Goudahead system.

Whatever.

We'll come up with something.

I'm working on it.

But But what if he really wants to team up with India, China, Russia, and bring those

Brits down

and those Flatlanders

once and for all?

Well, you always get the impression, especially during when Trump was out and Biden was in and even before Trump, that Putin has been aware of something like this.

Yeah.

Because he acts like it.

He was blaming for, he says, you know, people are getting suckered into this and that and the other thing.

And it's possible that Putin

is clued in.

I mean, I'm it's perfect for the show.

Let me just put it that way.

It has a lot of legs.

It's a bottomless pit.

It just

works for 50 years.

Four more years.

50 years.

And so,

yeah,

I'm totally a subscriber to these sorts of things.

And so if you're talking about, just to briefly bring it back to Charlie Kirk, if you're talking about some kind of professional hit with a Patsy that is meant to destabilize America's youth, our political system, get people

when you have people fighting each other,

that's how you conquer them.

It's obvious.

And the fact that the president said, I'm going after the people who finance it,

that's, I'm like, okay.

And that's clearly,

Soros clearly is from the UK banking system.

And by the way, these people don't care about the Brits either.

They do not care.

They just care about the Empire.

And, you know, we've been watching, we watched the Gilded Age

where all of the, you know, it's actually a lot of the Dutch were in New York early.

You know, the

New Amsterdam, the Driesmans.

This is the early rise of J.P.

Morgan.

And of course, after that, we went back and we're watching Downton Abbey, which is actually quite enjoyable, mainly from the historical perspective.

And you just see, like, yeah, man, I can't believe these Brits, we kicked their butt, and that was it.

That the pride went away.

I don't believe it for a second.

Not from these families and the monarchies and how everyone's connected and inbred.

And it's only 250 years ago.

That's not very long.

Amsterdam was the center of, they invented the stock exchange.

They invented the whole concept.

They invented the Ponzi scheme, or the, I'm sorry, tulip mania.

Ponzi scheme, I think, was invented in Italy.

Yeah, the bubble.

They invented the bubble.

So all of these things, if you go back and

we never taught this in school.

We never go back far enough into history to even think about these things.

Murica, yeah, Murray, 70, 70s.

To kids,

world history is boring.

But my experience with history and people who teach it, it's not boring in the least.

It's the teachers who are boring.

Yes.

So this kind of fits in with

this latest move by the president against the NATO allies.

U.S.

President Donald Trump on Saturday called on NATO allies to stop buying Russian oil while also threatening China with massive tariffs for its own purchases of Russian petroleum.

Zelensky didn't.

In a social media post, Trump called the oil buying by some NATO members shocking, saying it greatly weakens the alliance's negotiating position.

His comments come just days after Russian drones violated Polish airspace, prompting NATO to launch a new Eastern Sentry deterrence program.

The remarks also follow last month's summit in Alaska between Trump and Vladimir Putin, which failed to achieve a breakthrough on ending the war.

Several NATO members, including Turkey, Hungary, and Slovakia, continue to be major buyers of Russian oil after the invasion of Ukraine.

Trump also repeated his claim that the conflict is Biden's and Zelensky's war and would not have occurred if he had been president when it began in early 2022.

So President Trump is saying, yeah, sure, I'll do sanctions.

You guys stop buying their oil,

which would cripple them, because we all know that they're buying Russian oil.

It would cripple them.

So this seems like a slight.

By the way, that's a pretty good trick.

By the way, I was just thinking, wouldn't it be so typical for the,

and when I say Anglo-Dutch, I'm not talking about the Dutch people or the British people.

I'm talking about the Anglo-Dutch system.

To get everyone to blame it all on the Jews, you can just see them laughing about that.

We got them to blame the Jews

because they're bankers.

Yes, exactly.

And the Rothschilds are involved.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Wouldn't it be fantastic?

Here's some.

I don't think they're going to do that.

Well, they're not, but it's happening.

It's happening.

They're just.

No, I think that's a, I don't know what's going on there.

I think there's an explanation.

Well, here is.

I don't think they're blaming the Jews.

I think they're really out.

There's something about Netanyahu they have to deal with, and they don't like him.

Or there's that, too.

There's a lot of things not to like about him.

He's not a player, probably.

Here is a little too short clip breakdown from my boy, Andrew Rasoulis, on

Trump's

message here that is, hey, you stop buying your oil, then we'll put some sanctions on.

Joining us now is Andrew Rasoulis, retired official of the Department of National Defense.

Mr.

Rasoulis, welcome.

What do you make of Trump's calls today on NATO allies?

Do you think it could make any difference on Russia's stance at this point?

Well, I don't think it'll even get there because it's a very weak statement.

It carries a very large if.

And the if is all European countries stop importing Russian oil.

Now that means chiefly Hungary, Slovakia, and Turkey, which import vast amounts of Russian oil.

Their economies are dependent on cheap Russian oil.

To now expect that they will do Trump's bidding and stop with the sort of underlying understanding that the Americans will then put some undefined sanctions on top of all the other sanctions they put on Russia and somehow bring the war to an end.

I think this is a very illusory

statement by the president.

I don't think there's much to it.

Yeah, well, because it's a troll, basically.

And,

of course, we want to know how this might affect China, if it does at all.

What about China, who he directly called out?

What sort of impact could tariffs have there?

Well, exactly.

I mean,

he did on India, all right?

He did on India, and it had no effect.

The Indians have said, forget it, we're going to continue to buy Russian oil despite the tariffs imposed on them by the United States.

On China, it's a very different degree.

The Chinese

import the most of Russian oil, and

the Americans depend very much on Chinese trade bilaterally.

So if they impose tariffs on China for goods entering the United States, this will have a significant impact on the American economy and American consumers.

So Trump has never actually followed through on this.

He's been saying that, this has been going for weeks now, but he's pulled back because that is impractical.

So basically,

there are very strict limits as to what the United States and Europeans or Canadians can do to actually affect the Russian economy.

Yeah, he doesn't actually want to.

Now, through this new lens,

he doesn't want to do that.

We want to screw those guys over there.

And I think if you were to flip the bricks on its head and make it the A-bricks of

America, america brazil russia india china

south africa we'll just add them in there which

i mean hey boys guess what we're all gonna use this stable coin over here screw those europeans with their digital euro cue la guard one year on from the release of mario draghi's report on the future of european competitiveness it remains essential to follow up on its recommendations with further concrete action and to accelerate implementation in line with the European Commission's roadmap.

Governments should prioritise growth-enhancing structural reforms and strategic investment, while ensuring sustainable public finance.

It is critical to complete the Savings and Investment Union and the Banking Union to an ambitious timetable and to rapidly establish the legislative framework for the potential introduction of our digital Europe.

Too little, too late, baby.

You can't catch up.

Stablecoin is here.

It's much more fun to look at the world this way.

No wonder people want to leave Britain.

Oh, yeah, it's getting bad.

You saw the protest?

I have a clip.

Okay, let me see.

London.

Huge protest.

Easy to find.

A far-right protest turned violent in London today.

Vicki Barker has this report from the British capital.

Chanting anti-immigrant slogans and waving flags, the marchers, more than 100,000 police estimate, filled the streets of central London.

And they heard the anti-immigrant, anti-Islam activist Tommy Robinson tell them to savor the moment to feel their strength.

You are part of a tidal wave of patriotism that is sweeping across this country.

Britain, he said, has finally awoken.

A few thousand counter-demonstrators from the group Stand Up to Racism held their rally a few hundred yards away.

It was like 100,000 versus it looked like 1,000.

Yeah, that's what they said in the report.

100,000.

And then, of course, why even mention the other groups only, you know, one one-hundredth.

Well, you guys are racist.

Yeah.

Who had the professionally printed signs?

The smaller group, of course.

But meanwhile, some of this pressure may be having an effect.

And

this is why a war economy is needed.

This is why we're going to, well, we'll get into Eastern Century.

France is teetering.

France's sovereign credit score is at its lowest level on record.

Previously rated AA-,

the country has been downgraded by one notch to A-plus by credit rating agency Fitch.

The agency explains this is a consequence of continuing political instability.

They say the government's defeat in a confidence vote illustrates the increased fragmentation and polarization of domestic politics.

This instability weakens the political system's capacity to deliver substantial fiscal consolidation.

In its report, Fitch paints a grim picture of the state of France's public finances.

According to the agency, the deficit is expected to remain above 5% next year, and debt is expected to rise to 121% of GDP in 2027, up from 114% today.

For this economist, the downgrade has limited but real consequences.

The impact of this downgrade is a lower quality debt, meaning certainly an increase in risk that could continue.

And so, this concretely means for France an increased debt burden, which means a a higher level of interest that it repays each year.

The outgoing Minister of the Economy, Eric Lombard, has taken note of Fitch's decision.

The new Prime Minister, Sébastien Le Corneau's mission is to present a budget that's acceptable to the opposition.

Both those on the left and the right have opposing ideas of how to balance France's books.

These divisions will make a consensus difficult to achieve.

Yeah, the difficulty is you don't have your own money anymore.

That's the difficulty.

Once you went on the Euro, you can't inflate your way out of a crisis like this.

Yeah, the Greeks taught us that.

Yes.

Austerity measures coming to France, and they're not going to like it.

And then we have

a new.

Well, the French revolt all the time, so this could be like the Fifth Republic or whatever number of people are up to.

But it used to be cool, you know, they cut off heads and stuff.

They could still do that.

Well,

they could get back to it.

We have

a new actor on the scene,

the Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO, who I've never, I don't think, I can't recall this guy ever showing up.

And there he is next to Mark Gritte.

And, well, here we go, everybody.

Eastern Century.

We've activated it.

Yeah, so a couple of comments.

I have issued the order tonight for Eastern Century to begin.

The order went out as this press conference began, and so operations are being brought together immediately underneath my authorities as SACURE.

Now, it will take some time for us to bring everything together with the new contributions that have been coming in, and we'll continue to work on this and refine the design of the operation moving forward, but it begins immediately.

I'll just make one comment on the drone wall, Secretary General.

This is very in line with some of our thoughts of fortifying our eastern flank from a land and air domain perspective.

And just coming back from the Baltics, the number of states are making investments in technologies, learning lessons from Ukraine about what kind of sensors and what kind of weapons, kinetic and non-kinetic, might be effective.

And so integrating those sorts of defenses into our daily deterrence activities and into our regional plans is absolutely going to be something that we want to do moving forward.

Okay, so why is this guy?

guy standing next to Mark Rutte?

Because he's part of the sales team.

They brought in the closer.

This guy's like, hey,

y'all want to get your eastern flank all squared away.

We're going to help you, but you need new gear.

You need to buy some gear from us.

I do think it was a highly successful operation intercepting the drones that we did with

the Dutch F-35s and the other assets that contributed to that.

As successful as we are, we always learn something in the debrief, as we would say, in the fighter business.

Here it comes.

And so

we are are always looking for ways to enhance, to learn from the smallest tactical error to how we're approaching certain problems.

And in my judgment, the scale of the incursion the other day

was obviously larger than previous incursions that we've had.

So bringing additional resources to bear on this problem will help to solve that.

So that's why we're starting this operation the way we are.

I'll also highlight the comment I made about working with Allied Command Transformation and Admiral Vondier.

that is an effort to ensure that we get lower-cost weapons that we can use to defend ourselves, to make this a sustainable operation over time.

And as Sakir, one of my responsibilities is to make sure that we don't just defend today, but that we're set up to defend tomorrow.

The last comment I'll make is: when there's a fighter pilot that's in the air or someone on the ground who's defending the alliance, I don't want them thinking about how much their weapons cost.

I want them defending our citizens.

Yeah, yeah.

Don't think about cost, boys.

Don't worry about it.

Fire away.

Fire away.

Fox one, Fox Two.

Oh, yeah.

By the way, it turns out these were not Shaheed.

These were Gueran drones, which pretty much are unarmed.

They are

autonomous.

That's funny.

One of the reports did say Shaheeds.

No, I know.

Initially, we heard Shaheed, but I got a lot of people who know what they're talking about emailing me.

So, no, these are Gueran drones.

And then this morning, or yesterday, there was a bunch of incursions over Romania.

Yes, I think I actually have a clip of that.

Hold on.

Yes, here it is.

It was two F-16 fighter jets like these that detected a drone in Romania's airspace.

The Romanian Defense Ministry says the jets were patrolling near the border following Russian airstrikes on Ukrainian infrastructure.

At 18:23, F-16 aircraft detected a drone in national airspace, which they tracked to approximately 20 kilometers southwest of Chilia Vece, where it disappeared from radar.

The drone did not fly over populated areas and did not pose an imminent danger to the safety of the population.

It's the second breach of NATO airspace in just a matter of days after Poland said it shot down several Russian drones earlier in the week.

In response, the Alliance is beefing up its defences with a new operation dubbed Eastern Sentry, which aims to reinforce its eastern border with Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine.

The US has also vowed to defend every inch of NATO territory.

We don't want to see it happen again.

We think it's an

unacceptable and unfortunate and dangerous development in this regard.

With tensions high, Poland's Ljubljana airport temporarily closed on Saturday after a drone alert was issued.

Meanwhile, Russia and Belarus are pressing on with their joint operations near the Polish border, known as Zapad II.

The two countries had already carried out similar exercises back in 2021, just months before Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Full-scale invasion.

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more genius this is starting to look.

Like,

bleed them dry of all their money for not for today's war, but tomorrow's war.

You don't want your boys in the sky thinking about what it's going to cost.

I love that.

You don't want a great sales pitch.

You don't want fighters to be thinking.

You want those guys to think.

They be making this as a consideration

going to save money for for for your government yeah no no you don't want that the you know the french are shutting down their nuclear uh power plants the germans yes oh yeah they've decommissioned the french are all the whole country is run by those nuclear no i think they shut down two of them already well they may be for maintenances i can't believe they're going to shut any of them down well the germans certainly did and germans the germans did they're stupid but that's the green agenda they've turned it on themselves.

And we're going to screw them with their money, with the stable coin.

We're taking away the, you know, LIBOR is gone.

You don't control that anymore.

Now we just got to get those mainly city of London-oriented banks who are not to be named in the Federal Reserve, get them out of the picture, which Besant is, they've got plans.

Well, if Trump can keep himself alive,

they don't put those James Bond movies into your mind for nothing.

Yeah,

we got our agents.

They can kill anybody.

They can get anybody.

They can get their man anytime they want.

But we'll make them look like Austin Powers so you don't, you're not pretty, you're not, you know, you're not clued into what we're really doing.

Yeah,

yeah, yeah.

Well, I think we're on to something.

Yes.

The

oh, this

see, I

the

actually, there was a

kind of doubling back, but coming back to technology,

uh, which is obviously something.

By the way, how about all those European Union

finding our companies billions of dollars?

Yeah, well, that's been going on since the entire show.

I mean, it is.

They hate it.

They hate our company.

They started with Microsoft years ago, then Google, and then now Meta, and then Google again.

Because they hate our influence.

They want to control it.

That's a gouge.

It's a rip-off.

It's a simple rip.

They don't hate us.

They love us.

They can get all these billions of dollars for doing absolutely sitting on their ass.

Let's sit on our ass and do nothing.

And then, oh, no,

you get fined.

Why would they hate us?

Sounds like a podcast.

Let's sit on our ass and do nothing.

Yeah, well, that's most podcasts.

Not this one.

So obviously now we have to bring.

This is your girl, Kristen Welker.

That's why I have the clips from Meet the Press.

And she's talking to

Governor Spencer Cox.

Spencer Cox.

Is that the guy?

Is that Cox, the Utah governor?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah,

he's a very politically savvy guy.

He could run for president.

Well,

from what I'm reading, a lot of people think he is a proverbial rhino,

a Republican in name only.

And

you certainly don't want this guy as president.

Listen to his thoughts and his ideas about online and radicalization.

Governor, I want to ask you about something you said on Friday.

You said, quote, there was a radicalization that happened in a fairly short amount of time.

How was the suspect radicalized?

How quickly did it happen?

By the FBI, by the MI6.

I mean, this radicalization can happen from anybody, people.

Well, again, those are pieces of information that we're still gathering, trying to understand.

We do know.

And again, this is...

Is he in intelligence all of a sudden, this guy?

Yeah, we're gathering.

You know, the funny thing is, he looks like he's from intelligence.

He has a look.

You're right.

Now I should mention it.

He has an intelligence look.

He looks like

a spook.

And

he says the right things.

And when they bring up some of these radicalization programs, you know, the intelligence people are the ones who could, you know, they got all these, you know, Quantico and all these people to do a personality analysis and they know your weak spots and they can come in and convince you of something that's not going to happen.

Like you have a whole group of them down there in Fredericksburg that think, you know, the grid's going down or whatever.

Whatever they want to try as a joke.

Yeah,

exactly.

They sigh up our people here.

He is, of course, in Utah.

He is,

I believe he is, yes, he went on mission for the, so he's a Mormon.

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

And by the way, that's what you're supposed to say.

They don't like the word Mormon.

No, they don't.

That's why I said Church of Jesus Christ.

Yeah, I know I preached.

I don't know what you did, but I'm just pointing that out to the audience.

Yes, but they are very deeply entrenched in intelligence.

They have records on everybody.

Didn't Ancestry.com start with them?

I think you might be right.

Yeah.

Yes,

because they have the belief as a religion that they can baptize you in death.

That's right.

That's right.

Which is appreciated, but it's okay.

I already gave it the office.

It's not appreciated by everybody.

I gave it the office.

I don't need it anymore.

Information that we're still gathering, trying to understand.

We do know, and again,

this has been well publicized, that this was a very normal young man,

a very smart young man, 4-0 student, I think 34 on the ACT,

went to.

How does he know all this stuff?

I haven't seen any of

his scholastic record yeah that's that that came out okay 34 on the act um went to uh went to my alma mater utah state university but was only there for a very short amount of time i dropped out after after less than one semester and and it seemed to happen kind of after that um after after he had he had moved back uh to uh to to the southern part of utah um clearly there was uh there was a lot of gaming going on uh friends that confirmed that there was kind of that that deep dark internet.

The

Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet

where this person was.

Stop for a second.

I take back what I said about him being a potential presidential candidate because of this interaction he's going through right now.

He is using a scattergun style of talking.

So it's not smooth.

He's not smooth.

I mean, when he gave his prepared speeches, he sounded very presidential, but here's not,

he's all over the map.

He can't, he doesn't have a structured flow.

It doesn't come off well.

No.

So no, he's out.

No, he's, but, you know, and also, Utah has all the big data centers.

And he plays.

He's some in Colorado.

Yeah, I know, but Utah, well known, well known.

He's a fan of the band The Killers.

Okay.

It was kind of that deep, dark internet, the

Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet where

this person was was going deep.

And you saw that on the on the casings?

I mean, I didn't have any idea what the what you saw that on the casings.

Again, we didn't see anything.

He's stammering like a maniac.

He's stammering to the to the extent that maybe

he's not being

honest.

He was

going deep.

And you saw that on the on the casings.

I think I mean I didn't have any idea what the what those inscriptions, many of those inscriptions even meant, but they are you know they're certainly the memification that is happening in our society today.

By the way, this podcast, The No Agenda Show, is only available on the dark web.

Governor, I want to delve into some of the messaging that we have heard from you.

Lawmakers, governors, both.

Parties across the country have frankly praised what we heard from you on Friday, your unifying message.

You said you see this as a watershed moment.

How can this nation step back from the brink, Governor?

So he was so good.

From the brink.

He was so good that you even kind of fell for it until you heard this interview because he was good.

He had

a message that was needed at that moment, but we needed some details too.

So look,

this is

you mentioned it in the introduction, but we have some questions.

What was this

all about?

It starts right away with a laugh tell.

Let's listen to her lead-in again.

And by the way, I resent the fact you said that I fell for it.

Well, I don't.

Because I did, but it's beside the point.

It's not.

By the way,

I need to apologize for something, not for that comment I just made.

Well, what would that be?

What else did you say about me that you would need to apologize for?

It was not about you.

No.

I said something about Brennan.

Oh, yes, Brennan.

Brennan and Jay were quite upset about you calling him, as I recall,

the exact word was a deadbeat when he said anything but he's a very responsible.

And by the way, he's an Eagle Scout, if anybody cares, but a lot of Eagle Scouts out there.

And a very responsible person.

And

it was, I think, actionable insult.

Well,

it was meant as a joke.

Obviously.

Well, Mimi noticed it was kind of a joke.

Okay, of course.

You make these offhanded comments.

It was a joke coming from the love you have for the family.

Yes.

And it came in a conversation where you were making fun of Mimi's voice.

So I'm like, it's fair game now.

But I apologize.

That's not true.

Okay.

I'm sorry.

No, that's right.

It was right before you were making it.

And I wasn't making fun of her voice.

Her mic voice is a very sexy voice she's developed.

I called her out on it later.

I called her.

I said,

where are you developing this voice?

Because she wears the cans and she doesn't like her voice.

And so she's working on hello.

So she's working on this bullcrap voice that sounds terrific.

She could get at work doing that voice.

It was

right after you called me a bigot and before you called me an egomaniac about the sound of my own voice.

Yes,

that's true.

Okay, well,

I'm fair game.

I'm fair game.

I'm fair game.

Instead of your normal attack of me, you went after poor old Brennan.

It was,

I said it because I know that, you know, because of departure of

what company left?

Oh, the Chevron.

The Chevron.

Yeah.

So I'm sorry.

Of course.

And by the way, I remember Jay when.

It was sweet of you to apologize to Brennan.

Yes, and also to Jay,

you know, because they're married and I'm sure she got, and she didn't mention anything to me, but this got back to me.

And so I'm really sorry.

I've known Jay since she was 15.

And

I love her working with us.

And

Brennan's a good guy.

I've never met him, but you like him, so that automatically is.

He's a nice guy.

So I'm sorry.

This is what you get when you only listen to the No Agenda show once in a while.

You haven't heard all the other stuff we talked about.

So I'm sorry.

I really am.

I think that they should be listening to the show.

Jay was listening to the show with more consistency.

And Brennan listens once in a while.

He was listening in the car, I guess, when you insulted him.

But they almost go off.

They should listen to the show.

Did they almost drive their Tesla off the road?

Driving a minivan.

All right, onward.

Unifying message.

You said you see this as a watershed moment.

How can this nation step back from the brink, Governor?

So look,

this is,

you mentioned it in the introduction, but we have seen an escalation in violence that has been happening across the country.

We've had periods like this in our past history.

I've mentioned before in the late 60s and early 70s, certainly we saw these types of high-profile political assassinations.

Another dark time in our history.

People keep waiting for

somebody to lead us out of this.

And I think that's a mistake.

I don't think any one person, certainly not a governor, I don't think a president, I don't think anyone can

change the trajectory of this.

It truly is about every single one of us.

And I can't emphasize enough the damage that that social media and the internet is doing to all of us.

Cox for president.

Those dopamine hits, these companies, trillion-dollar market caps, the most powerful companies in the history of the world, have figured out how to hack our brains, get us addicted to

the stop.

So what social media company has a trillion-dollar valuation?

I can tell you.

Meta?

Meta?

I don't think they have a trillion-dollar valuation.

Not a market cap.

I know Apple does, but that's not.

NVIDIA does.

That's not social media.

I think

Google goes.

I think

Microsoft for sure.

Yeah.

But those aren't social media companies.

The social media companies, to me, are...

They make no money.

Well, no, they make money.

I mean, Meta makes money.

Yeah.

Meta is a good example.

But I don't think they're...

I'll look it up, but that'd be the only one possibly with a trillion-dollar market cap.

Well, I don't think they're not.

They're not the most powerful companies in the world

no i agree they're not that's and people who are on these platforms like twitter or blue sky your favorite oh my gosh

i went on blue sky the other day i hadn't been on i had to reset my password hadn't been on there in months that guy who yells at me every day is still yelling every day

every day one guy no

i'm not on that you should you should take some of these clips and or take some screenshots and read them because you you you know the guy.

He's got a certain kind of voice that you could emulate perfectly.

Okay.

But let me finish these clips and then

I'll give you some joy.

Figured out how to hack our brains, get us addicted to outrage, which is the same type of dopamine, the same chemical that you get from taking fentanyl.

Get us addicted to outrage and get us to hate each other.

I'm seeing it in real time since the tragic death of Charlie Kirk.

I'm seeing it in every corner of our society.

The conflict entrepreneurs are taking advantage of us, and we are losing our agency.

And we have to take that back.

We have to turn it off.

We have to get back to community, caring about our neighbors, the things that make American great, serving each other, bettering ourselves, exercising, sleeping, all of those things that this takes away from us.

Okay, you want to hear some of this guy?

Well, first I want to mention about

this idea of taking social media away.

Does he understand what's going on in Nepal?

Exactly.

You really want to be careful.

This is the one thing we've warned of.

Don't even take TikTok away.

We'll be writing.

We'll finish these.

He's going to make a great little comparison here.

If you could compare social media to anything bad, what would you compare it to?

If I was going to compare social media to something bad, I'd compare it to war.

Well, Governor, you referred to social media as a cancer on Friday.

That's an incredibly strong word.

Do you believe that social media played a direct role in this assassination?

I believe that social media has played a direct role in every single assassination and assassination attempt that we have seen over the last five, six years.

What happened to gaming?

Come on, man.

Are you afraid?

There is no question in my mind that cancer probably isn't a strong enough word.

What we have done, especially to our kids,

it took us a decade to realize how evil these algorithms are.

And

we're doing everything in Utah.

First state in the nation a couple years ago to pass comprehensive reform.

Sadly, these most powerful companies on earth are suing us to prevent us from implementing these things.

Okay, by the way.

And we believe we do.

Yes.

Well,

this is the funny part.

Okay, before you play, I'm just going to say Meta 1.8 trillion.

Okay, that was way off.

So this is the funny part where he's talking about social media companies, and I guess he's on Zoom, and then he gets cut off.

Years ago to pass comprehensive reform, sadly, these most powerful companies on earth are suing us to prevent us from implementing these things.

And he's gone.

And we believe we just lost our connection with Governor Cox.

There, you heard him speaking very forcefully against

trying to drag it out to get him back.

He never came back.

But you know who did come back for the final clip?

Mayor Pete.

I mean, you heard Governor Cox refer to social media as a cancer.

And

the question, I think, becomes what to do about it.

Do you agree with that assessment?

Is social media actually a cancer right now, Mr.

Secretary?

Let's get some consensus.

And is he still allowed to be called Mr.

Secretary?

Yeah,

that's a protocol allowance, yes.

Well, and of course, Secretary General outpaces Mr.

Secretary anyway.

Yes, people should, when next show is show 1,800, people should contribute their $500 a piece and get those Secretary Generalships in for the next show.

It's going to be a long, hopefully long donation segment.

Social media is clearly part of the problem in a big way, and it speaks to something that's even bigger than the political polarization of this moment.

Although I think the internet has played a role, but it's more than that.

It's what is it doing to our brains?

Look, every time there's one of these killings in a summer that began with the assassination in June of a Democratic lawmaker by somebody with a kill list of Democrats and is ending this September with the assassination of a conservative figure, and you go back through so many other cases, political and not of violence, there is not a consistent pattern of left versus right among the shooters, but there is a pattern where we see so many of these people.

are men, usually young men, who seem to spend more and more of their time in dark and twisted corners of the internet.

And I think there is a sickness, not just the sickness of somebody who would pick up a gun and shoot someone, but I think a broader societal sickness that, frankly, I think you could see and feel in how many people around America, normal people, not dangerous people, normal, were at the moment when we all should have still been praying for the victim and his family, were busy online praying for some shred of evidence that the shooter would turn out to be from the other political team.

That is not healthy, and that is not a way forward.

But that is exactly what the algorithm pushes us to do.

Wow.

There's some agenda here.

There's some agenda at play.

Yeah, there's too much of too much

anti-social media.

Well, there's anti-social networks.

There's

Meta's $1.8 trillion.

I didn't realize it was that much.

Silly you.

There's something going on.

They're trying to do something.

I think it's to implement censorship before some event.

It's a censorship play.

They want digital ID, man.

Digital ID in the dark corner, dark corners of the internet discord.

That's been a push fortune.

It's a push, but they're not going to get it.

We're going back to bulletin boards, people.

I got five lines on my BBS.

I remember.

Yeah.

People would have.

The phone companies were making out

bandits during that era.

Because you'd get 10 lines to your house.

That's right.

And you have your modem bank, you know,

the whole night going off.

Yep, click, click,

relays, relays, go ahead.

Yeah, running on a single 286.

Ah, good times, everybody.

Good times.

Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage.

Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in Cox for president.

Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr.

John C

Dora

yeah well good morning Miss Adam Curry morning our subsequent hangars between the air subs in the water and all the names and nights out there yo yo in the morning to the trolls in the troll room hello trolls

we're doing good now 2328 at the peak there you go we're almost back at our 2400 I know you say it's 25 but I think 24 is where we actually were

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You can log in there, an IRC client, or get yourself a modern podcast app and never miss a single live show.

Always get updated within 90 seconds.

Oh, by the way, did I tell you that

now Apple, it looks like they're going to be adopting yet another podcasting 2.0 feature?

Which one, pray tell?

Chapters.

Chapters.

So we've had these,

well, some people call them super chapters, cloud chapters.

Dreb Scott makes them for us, and they're portable.

So you can, you know, that's why you see them on noagendashow.net.

You see them in the podcast apps.

And you don't have to bake them into your file because if we did that, we'd have to wait hours before even being able to publish the show because we'd have to figure out all the chapters first.

And so now you just publish the show and then the chapters are done.

No, and then, you know,

Dreb sometimes listening in real time and he just hits the button and boom, the chapters are there.

So it looks like Apple's going to do that, which is good because I, you know, of all the legacy apps, I think Apple is probably the one that has the chance of innovating.

Everyone else just sucks.

So podcastapps.com.

Man, 1,799 episodes of the No Agenda Show.

The next one will be our big 1800, our 18th anniversary is coming up.

And all these years, we've been doing it value for value, which means we just give you the show.

There's no barriers to entry.

It's like free speech.

You literally get our speech for free.

However, if you want to continue receiving that speech, all you have to do is from time to time, whenever you feel you've gotten some value, enough value, more than enough value, send it back to the show.

If everyone did that, you'd never hear us complain.

And we're not complaining because we're still here.

Then we enjoy it.

We enjoy doing this as a public service.

And you can support us in many ways, organizing meetups.

Did you have a meetup on Saturday?

In fact, I did.

And I have the results from the meetup, which will be coming up shortly.

Oh, good.

Good, good.

I didn't get a meetup report from the Port Angeles meetup.

I was expecting

a report from Port Angeles.

Or Mimi.

Hi, everybody.

Hi.

It's Mimi with the cans on.

Yeah, everybody.

She's got a good pair of cans.

Wow.

Okay.

ISO.

What?

Yeah, she got a good pair of cans.

I'm ISOing that.

That's perfect.

Also, you know, boots on the ground, people sending clips.

Everything is incredibly appreciated.

And

one thing people do is, you know, I'm slowly giving up on the idea.

that I can fight artificial intelligence by myself.

I can't, so we'll just wait until it all collapses.

Oh, bonus clip time.

Bonus clip.

Bonus clip.

You ready for a bonus clip?

This is a special donation segment.

I'm on pins and needles.

So we were laughing on the last show about Oracle.

How they're, I think you said, this is even more ridiculous than pets.com that they're bringing up.

But you said that.

You brought up pets.

No, I better brought up pets.com.

You said, no, no, it's much worse

by a factor of

a factor of 10, you know, expecting to go from.

It's a big operation.

Pest.com just died on the volume.

We're going from $14 billion in today's revenue, which missed their quarterly revenue and profit targets, to 2029, which is only three and a half years away,

where

Oracle expects to have $149 billion in revenue.

And everyone went,

oh, wow.

Well, our fine friends over there at CNBC

have figured out how this is going to work and and what is powering the

AI spending spree.

You're going to love it.

Shares of Oracle today falling a bit following that 35% surge yesterday on its massive revenue backlog.

And we now know where the majority of that revenue will come from.

It's OpenAI, that $300 billion deal for compute power, among the largest cloud contracts ever signed.

Our Mackenzie Sagalos has more on that in today's tech check.

Hey, Mac.

Hey, Carl.

So I have been speaking to DCs out here in Silicon Valley about how OpenAI is now bankrolling the AI trillion dollar club.

And they're trying to make sense of this loop, the sky-high fundraising, spending so fast that it clogs supplier backlogs and pumps up the market caps of legacy giants who have rebranded themselves as an AI play.

Now, one investor telling me that the real story is the power struggle with NVIDIA, saying that OpenAI feels threatened and wants to diffuse the dynamic by making some of its smaller rivals a lot stronger.

In the last week, OpenAI has fired two shots in that direction.

A $10 billion Broadcom partnership to build a GPU rival, and then this massive Oracle deal.

Both are meant to spread leverage across the stack.

Now, other VCs were marveling at Sam Altman's sprawl.

One investor saying that he is really trying to out

Elon, pointing to his custom chip ambitions and that top-secret consumer device being built in a lab under Johnny Ive.

Skeptics say the spending math does not work.

Most VCs are priced out at a $500 billion valuation.

They say that sovereign wealth and Middle East capital is keeping this entire ecosystem afloat.

Another VC underlined the tightrope that everyone is walking here.

The numbers look impossible on their face, but the constraint is compute and energy.

So, yes, it is a gamble for these hyperscalers, but that trillion-dollar capex wave has to happen in order for this AI thesis to clear.

Now, the next test is whether OpenAI can lock in more funding and nail its agentic strategy in order to deliver on that $125 billion revenue target for 2029.

That will be key to turning Oracle's backlog into cash.

We just need more money.

If you can just give us more money, we're going to make so much money.

You're going to be so rich.

You're going to get leave your wife rich money.

It's going to be fantastic.

Just four more years of money.

This is fantastic.

Larry Ellison is actually quite smart.

He's just going to let those guys raise the money and he's he's going to take it.

No, no, Larry's always been smart.

But this is, but this, it's like, hey, you know what?

Enjoy your art generator while it lasts, everybody.

Enjoy everything.

This is the time to get it while you can.

Yeah, get it while you can is right.

You know, and we're doing a good job of exploiting it.

There's art generators, all the art that we're getting, and the songs, even, and the clips of the end of the show occasionally.

Yeah,

It's all free.

Someone said to me, hey,

can we make a deal?

Like, I'll give $50 to every artist who creates art that's chosen that isn't AI generated.

I'm like, just give it up, man.

Forget about it.

Just give it up.

Just give it up.

Bite the bullet.

Give it up.

Bite the bullet, exactly.

Blue Acorn came in with a win.

It was a good piece.

You know,

we ping-pong back and forth on a couple of things.

This wasn't wasn't my favorite at first.

No, I forgot.

There's one I liked.

I forgot what it was.

Well, first, let me tell you.

Oh, I like the robot cops.

Yeah, so this was the Statue of Liberty yelling at a pudgy Uncle Sam asleep with his teddy bear, saying, Wake up, wake up.

Which, you know, people liked it.

You know, it could be tedious.

It was cute.

Many different ways.

I also got a note from

our RIA guy, and he's who did the

logo,

the logo, the Austin logo, deconstruction.

He says 100% Photoshop.

He says no AI.

No, no.

He said Illustrator.

Oh, Illustrator.

I'm sorry.

Yes, Illustrator.

Sir Shug.

Yes, Sir Shug.

There you go.

Fau Diddley.

That's it.

So here on this particular article.

In fact, he eschewed Photoshop in favor of Illustrator.

He made a great point.

He did.

He did.

So robot cops, yeah, it just didn't do it for me.

I mean, I know.

That was kind of a dark image.

It was rather dark.

Have we talked about anything else that we kind of like?

And I mean, dark in terms of luminosity.

Yes.

And

which brings up the point that some people, you know, you get these things.

You hear us complaining, or us, mostly Adam.

He's always moaning and groaning.

Adam has a thing about this orange-ish

art cue.

Take the art and take a piece, pull it out, drop it into Photoshop and

brighten it up.

Yeah, brighten it up.

Yeah, do some work.

You can do that.

No.

Is it that hard?

No, they can't.

They see it.

They're like, make it brighter.

Make it bright, like that cat.

Make it brighter.

Prompting, prompting, prompting.

So, anyway.

Well, you also like the xylophone.

Well, I like the simplicity of it, but it was a little, you actually, I think, said it too simplistic, which is that's an eco-syme xylophone.

Yeah.

And then you're like, oh, man, I love these evergreen logos.

The one with no agenda with the microphone and the headphones, yeah, over my dead body.

That's like the most

the most overused elements of any podcast logo.

No, I'm not arguing that.

Bah.

You're just,

that's a bigotry.

You should look up the definition.

Okay.

I don't have time for that today.

We have the bigotry.

I have my bigotry is gruesome art.

Yes.

You refuse to accept any sort of gruesome artist.

You're very bigoted against gruesome artists.

And I have, and the reason for that is because it's associative, and I don't like it.

Yes, I know.

I know.

I know.

Thank you, Blue Acorn.

Very happy with your piece.

And noagendaartgenerator.com.

Everybody can participate.

It's easy, kids.

Just go to your favorite AI art generator, make some up.

It

still needs a good idea.

Without a good idea, you can't get there.

So there's that.

And of course, we always like to thank the people who supported us with financial value for value.

We thank everybody, $50 and above.

You can keep score at home.

And we have a special bonus for those fortunate enough who are able to, just like Hollywood, by the way.

I mean, you can pay your, what is a movie ticket these days?

Is it 20 bucks now?

No, it's at least that.

It used to be five, then it was seven.

I remember what it was like a dollar.

And we had a Nickelodeon and we were happy.

No, what was the thing called?

What was that?

We had put a

penny in and

a kinescope, rotoscope.

What is it called?

I don't, you got me.

You know.

No, I don't.

You were there.

I was, but I don't even remember it.

It was like a, they still had those things, I think, at Riverview Park in Chicago.

Yeah, in the ways.

You'd be looking through it.

Yeah.

So if you are

fortunate enough to support us with $200 or more, we'll give you a title, Hollywood Credit, which is an associate executive producer.

And we'll read your note.

And if it's $300 or above, you become an executive producer of the No Agenda Show for that episode.

And we will read your note as well.

And of course, you can use these anywhere Hollywood-style credits are recognized.

That would be your LinkedIn, your Blue Sky, put it in your profile, your Blue Sky.

That'll get you lots of friends.

Or you can put it on imdb.com, which will make you look very official for putting it onto your resume.

And John is going to start us off with our first executive producers, which I believe these are from the meetup in Albany.

Give us a meetup report.

Yes, I went to the meetup.

It was actually in Oakland

at Violet's Violet Violeta Pizza, Violetta.

And that's where Violet, the sucker baby that we first brought into the topic of conversation, she's been a show

promoter herself, the little girl, for the last six years.

And she was at the event.

And this was at Violeta's Pizza.

And

I have to say,

besides being

very generous with the free pizza and free tallow fries and whatever else anyone wanted to order,

that the owners of Pizzeria Violetta, and there's two of them, there's one in Piedmont and one at the Prescott Market,

which was Jonathan and Sarah and their daughter, Violet.

Violet was there,

and she comes up to me.

Violet comes up because she's a fan of the show.

She's been listening to the show forever.

Oh.

And she comes up and she looks at me and she's very furtive.

And she's, you know, she's looking at me.

She's furtive me.

What's furtive?

Furtive, yeah.

What's furtive mean?

It means it's like, you know, she's semi-anxious because she's got something to say.

Oh, yes, furtive.

Okay.

Like a little kid.

She comes up and she looks at me and she goes,

I'm six,

which cracked me up.

But it turned out to be a backstory to her doing this because she didn't get called out for her birthday a couple of weeks ago by the parents who never sent us a note.

Oh, no.

And so Violet was irked about the fact that she wasn't called out.

And I have a note.

I'm six, she says to me.

And she's the cutest thing, by the way.

And she, here's the note from

Jonathan and Sarah.

And they, they, besides giving us the hospitality, they donated $333.33.

Very nice.

So thanks for getting out of the house, they write.

Great to chat.

I know Baroness Sarah Rupert and Sucker Baby.

Violet love the meetup.

Trap Baby, not Sucker Baby.

Yeah, I always call it Trap Baby, but then I was called out by Mimi.

He says, that's actually the Sucker, but it should be Sucker Baby.

Okay, whatever.

One of the two.

There's a note here.

Appreciate the praise of the pizza.

Yes,

they do make a tremendous product.

And reluctantly make a pineapple pizza.

And here's an make good birthday wishes.

Violet was very upset to not hear her name on the podcast.

So

she's currently on the list.

So she's going to be called out today.

And

other donors says we're going to do a little meetup report.

We have 8008

from

Sir Fast Fast.

I can't read his of the America.

The island of Boobs, 8008.

John and Adam, thanks for what you're saying.

Is it Sir Fastablardy?

No, it says Fast or Fast Eddie of Alameda.

Oh, there you go.

Okay.

Thank you.

235 from

this is from Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, Baronet of Maxwell Park.

Kilo Oscar 6, Echo Juliet Echo 73s.

Yeah.

And he came in with,

well, he says it was 335 cash.

Oh, yeah.

Plus fees.

Well, I counted 235, but maybe I'm wrong.

I'll just assume it's 330.

330

335.

He says, I hope this finds you well.

I have three ask Adams.

Answer the questions.

Go.

Okay.

Okay.

One.

Yes.

In the troll room.

Who determines if you get karma for a comment that you make during the show?

Well, that rarely happens.

That's never happened.

I can't remember a time, actually.

Two.

Yeah.

In the song Der Commissar, after the Fire Falco 1982 song, is Der Commissar a euphemism for a drug dealer?

No.

Falco was an Austrian, so he had all kinds of militaristic vibes.

Okay.

Last question.

Yes.

This is Adam the DJ questions.

Is the song A-E-I-O-U Sometimes Why

1984 from Ibn Ozen?

Yeah.

Is Lola a man?

Yes, Lola is.

Obviously, Lola is a man.

I met her down in Old Soho.

Asking for a friend.

If you meet Lola, be warned.

She's a man.

thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sure.

God rest Charlie Kirk and may God bless America.

Yes, sir.

God bless America.

Absolutely.

That was an entertaining note.

Okay, onward with the rest of these donations.

I like these

notes.

These are good.

These are good.

We got $200 from

Robert Montoya, Black Knight of Pleasant Hill.

That's just

$200.

That's that.

$200 from

Jason Swisher,

J-J-A-Y-C-E-E-N.

And she says,

St.

Ives,

nice meeting.

Nice meeting you.

Something about the Jay.

I don't know.

This is some sort of trust.

It's 200 bucks.

It's just a check with no other longer note.

And then another one, which is from recalcitrant, recalcitrant Steve, our buddy, 51.50.

And of course, he comes in.

And that, I think, covers the basis.

Very nice.

And you have to do Dame Janet of TP Wyoming because you also have the note for her donation of $750.

I have to grab a different pile.

Okay.

So here we go.

This is

an interesting note.

This is $750.

This is the next donor, which is Dame Janet of TP Wyoming.

And she wrote a a card, actually.

Okay.

Keep up the good work.

Okay, we have a knighting.

This is a Switcheroo.

I think it's on there.

Yep.

This is a Switcheroo.

She writes.

She's got a, you know, this is a very interesting anomaly with her.

She has unbelievably pretty and readable longhand or cursive, and her printing is hard to read.

And she'd print this.

Donation to bring my it's it looks like sucking hot husband, but I think.

There you go.

I think it is.

Smoking hot husband

bill to the knight to knighthood, night, uh,

night something or other to be determined.

Oh, the night name to be determined later.

Okay.

We have him on the list, but he's going to change it maybe.

September 15th will

be

married for 41 years.

Hey, there you go.

And no one I'd rather be.

I'm not 41 years.

Holy moly.

I'd never did a journey with.

Wow, Bill.

Wow, wow, wow.

We both love the show and have news, and we love the newsletter, especially the memes and hypocrite of the week.

It's a fan favorite.

Keep up the great work.

Then she says he'd like Opus One and Spaghetti Carbonara at the roundtable.

Yeah, I got it all ordered for you and all set up.

I'll take the next three just to move things along.

Sure.

Benjamin Malnar in Rapid River, Michigan, $500, no note, so you get a double up karma.

And I believe you will be a secretary general by default.

You've got.

And we have Matthew Bush from Newport Beach, California, $350.58.

Also, no note that we can find.

So for you, also a double-up Karma.

You've got.

double up

karma and there he is sir scovey from charlotte north carolina we thought we'd heard the last of him on the last show but no he comes in with his standard 333.33 and he says make good matching donation alert john adam and fellow producers in the morning to robert kamanowski for the donation to show 1797 i should have matched that donation based on the chronological order of donations maya culpa robert and thank you for your courage he says that concludes this matching donation campaign, which he went above and beyond the matching campaign, which is

which, as a matching donor, is what you do, and we appreciate it.

But he says, it's done for real this time.

Thank you to the eight producers.

Signing off with a reminder that acts of kindness and generosity are always needed.

Do what you can, as often as you can.

Love and light was signed, Sir Scovey.

Thank you, Sir Scovey.

Beautiful.

You might as well read the next one because I have a note.

Well, this is from about 90 miles to the east of me, Georgetown, Texas, Randy Wallen.

And he says, in the morning, 333.33, please support the George Pastor Foundation.

Pastor was an Austin SWAT officer killed in the line of duty on November 11th, 2023, during active shooter hostage rescue call.

To honor his legacy, Pastor's wife, Kim, established a foundation to provide financial resources for first responders for advanced training, wellness, and community engagement.

The foundation of 501c3 and all staff are volunteers.

You can support the foundation financially by donating through its website, jpasteorfoundation.com.

That's Pastor with an R-N-N-E.

You can also support the foundation by taking part in its annual fundraiser, the Humble Warrior Games, live on November 9th at Revel Peak Ranch in Burnett, Texas, or virtually if you are out of the area.

Registration can be found on the website.

Again, jpasteorfoundation.com.

Thank you, says Randy Wallen from Georgetown, Texas.

Okay, now we have

another note.

Sir Optimus, yeah, this is the last one.

Except I will mention that I have pushed off two donations.

Kim of the Nutty Fluffers and

Archduke of Central Florida have been moved to show 1800 for logistical reasons, and

I should note that they're expecting to be mentioned today.

Okay.

And you'll see what that's all about next show.

Okay.

So we have a note here from Optimus.

Mysterious.

Yeah.

Optimus.

God bless you both.

Rest in peace.

Charlie Kirk, Sir Optimus.

Simple to the point.

Yep, beautiful.

Kevin G, Mobile, Alabama, 233.99, which I believe is 222.22.

So a big row of ducks processing fees.

Sir Kevin G of the Lake Lanier Boaters here, checking in after three years of retirement on 922.

We've traded the lake life for salt life, moving down to Mobile.

That's Mobile, not Mobile.

Alabama, a solid red state, no longer just puttering, Adam's word, around the Georgia Lake Lanier on my yacht.

What a life.

In April this year, I took an eight-day trip down the Tennessee River to Mobile.

I'm now traveling the ICW, intercoastal water, visiting new ports of call.

If the peerage committee could please update my title to Sir Kevin G of the ICW, thanks for your attention to this matter.

Consider it done.

Encloses my annual retirement donation, a full row of ducks, 222.22 plus processing fees, and a hearty call out to all douchebags who listen religiously but never donate.

Douchebag.

Love your work.

Love is lit, and all that shit.

Non-no-exit strategy.

Hashtag no exit strategy.

All the best.

Sir Kevin G of the soon-to-be-updated ICW, formerly Kevin G of the Lake Lanier Boaters.

The librarian San Francisco comes in with 22222

and writes for Charlie Kirk and for all the truth-tellers like Adam and John.

Love and hugs from the librarian in San Francisco.

Eli the coffee guy is here with 20914, always hitting the date 914, Bensonville, Illinois.

And he says, after the news of the past week, the hits just keep on coming.

Whether developments in the Charlie Kirk assassination, drones in Poland, AFD politicians dropping like flies, revolutions in Nepal, to riots in Serbia, and citizens taking to the streets of London, one might think the world has gone mad.

I urge everybody to keep calm and get back to basics.

Just remember, good old-fashioned Americanism will save the day.

Blue jeans, mom, apple pie, steak, potatoes, hot chicks, and cold beer, and of course, good old-fashioned coffee.

Visit gigawattcoffee roasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order today.

Stay sane, stay safe, stay caffeinated, says Eli, the coffee guy.

And we finish with Linda Lu Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado.

200.

Jobs, Karma.

Skip the AI templates.

Okay, okay.

Skip the AI templates.

Skip them.

Skip them.

For an executive resume that gets results and tells your unique story, visit imagemakersinc.com.

That's ImageMakers Inc.

with a K.

And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs, writer of winning resumes.

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

You've got coming.

Well, thank you all very much for your support of episode 1799.

You could have waited until 1800, but you didn't, and I appreciate that so much.

Thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers, and we'll be thanking the rest of our value-for-value donors in the second segment, which will be coming up in a little bit.

$50 and above.

Remember to support the show by going to noagendadonations.com.

Our formula is this:

We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

Shut up, sleep.

Shut up, sleep.

Hey, I got a PM question time.

By coincidence.

What does that mean?

Oh, Prime Minister.

Prime Minister.

You have one?

Yeah.

Oh, we haven't done that for a while.

We need to go back to it.

Well, it's your beat, so you need to go back to it.

But I do have one to whet your whistle with.

This is a doozy.

Prime Minister question time.

Listen to this.

Thank you, Mr.

Speaker.

Vaccinations were invented in Berkeley, in my constituency, 230 years ago.

And as a GP,

I have jabbed literally thousands of children and adults.

Would the Prime Minister update the House about our new rollout of chickenpox vaccinations, which will further protect our children.

And would he also

agree with me to condemn other political parties that give platforms for people who spread false rumours about vaccinations?

Well, my honourable friend speaks with great authority and I'm proud that Labour are protecting half a million children by rolling out the chickenpox vaccines.

In stark contrast, the man who wrote Reform's health policy has made shocking and baseless claims that vaccines are linked to cancer and that's being endorsed by reform leaders they laugh they laugh at it

these dangerous conspiracies cost lives and it shows that reform can't be trusted with our nhs

and meanwhile pfizer modern shares fall on report that trump officials will link child deaths to covid shots woohoo go ahead prime Minister, question time.

Yeah, that's coming apparently this week.

Oh, I haven't heard that.

It's on CNBC, which means there's got to be

something's going on.

Yeah, because they, yeah, it's a report from the Washington Post.

Officials plan to include the claim in a presentation next week to a key vaccine panel that advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Whoa.

That's quite the statement.

Well, they're going to have to have a lot of evidence to back this up, and I'm sure they do.

I think they do.

I think they have 25 child deaths they're using as an example.

So

that's what I got there.

They'd be giving that shot to kids anyway.

Man, no kidding.

So I've got a WTF clip, which is,

wow, that's fabulous.

Houthi attacks.

Listen to this.

Houthi attacks.

All right.

This is also reported launching more airstrikes against the Iran-backed Houthi terrorist group in Yemen, targeting Houthi military bases, a fuel storage facility, and the headquarters of the Houthi Public Relations Department.

So they're bombing the public relations department.

Yeah, you got to get them good, man.

I just thought when I heard that, I said, holy mackerel, they finally figured it out.

This is who you want to, but you should have bombed them in the first place.

So who's bombing them?

No offense to all the PR people that work

and listen to the, work

for a living and listen to the show.

But who's bombing them?

It was the Israel.

Of course.

Of course.

And I think,

yeah, public relations office.

Where is the, there it is.

Let's get it.

It's about time.

Public relations.

Well, of course, we don't want to bomb any people, but public relations.

Was it a laptop?

The Houthis, they had some good stuff going.

They had the helicopter videos.

Remember that helicopter video?

They landed on the deck and they jumped out like in a video game?

Just like that.

It looked like a video game every which way.

Yeah.

Here's another weird clip.

I thought this was interesting because there's obviously a lot of people,

I'm guessing Americans, but it could be international.

People with way too much money.

Oh, well, yes.

They're everywhere, those people.

I wish they would listen to the show.

They're not on our donor list.

No, not this guy in particular.

This is the Star Wars memorabilia clip.

Oh, hold on a second.

By the way, 18 years, no one has ever done like a crazy donation, like a hundred grand or something.

No, no, that's never happened.

Where's my Bitcoin?

And in a galaxy not so far, far away, the legacy of Darth Vader lives on.

Your destiny lies with me, Skywalker.

Or be one news to be true.

The prop lightsaber he wielded in that father-son battle in the Empire Strength Spec has been sold at auction for $3.6 million.

That makes it the most expensive piece of Star Wars memorabilia to be auctioned off.

No word yet on the buyer who embraced this bit of the dark side.

Oh, I can tell you who it is.

That's an easy one.

There's only one guy I know who would spend that kind of money on Star Wars memorabilia because he has a lot of it already.

Glenn Beck.

Oh, that's an interesting theory.

I've been in his museum.

Yeah, you have.

You've been one of the privileged few.

He, I mean, he has.

So, what kind of stuff does he have that's Star Wars?

Oh, he has Star Wars.

Does he have 3 million to blow on a trinket?

Dude,

dude.

Clenn Beck is not hurting.

I mean, he has a.

Outside the building, he's got a custom Bentley,

like a beautiful,

I think it's the continent.

Is that the Continental R?

His museum, besides, he has a lot of American memorabilia,

President Lincoln's door,

including the doorknob and the knocker.

He has

George Washington's compass and then a drawing compass.

He has from

movie memorabilia, Dorothy's Ruby Slippers.

He's got a full-on Star Trooper.

I think he has a couple of Star Trooper, you know, the white dudes,

yeah, the outfits.

He's got

stuff from Gone with the Wind.

He has from,

who did,

I think from Spartacus.

He has the model ship they use for the, for, in the, the water scene.

Oh.

Uh, which was Cecil B.

DeMille.

He has Cecil B.

DeMille's chair.

I mean, he has one of the first electric chairs, which, you know, is weird to sit in.

It's a very strange sense.

Go ahead, sit in it.

I'm like, okay, just just make sure Glenn doesn't trip over any switches anywhere.

But

he has

a lot of original Texas documents.

It's traveling.

He's taken it on the road,

his museum.

And he's asked me to do something with it.

I think he wants me to show up at

one of the exhibits, which I'll gladly do.

It is a, and he shares it with everybody.

He's got a podcasting memorabilia from you.

You're cobalt.

I'll bring, hey, Glenn, I got something for you, museum, buddy.

Look at this cube, man.

This cobalt.

He has

Rush Limbaugh's gold microphone.

He does?

Yeah.

The original?

Well, he says it is.

I have no reason to doubt him.

I know they made a bunch of them.

Well, Evie made a bunch of a gold.

I think there's also a number of ruby red slippers, but if this was genuine lightsaber, that has Glenn Beck's name all over it, for sure.

He goes all over the world trying to buy stuff.

Hey, power to him.

At least, what I like about Glenn Beck is that you do the, he's a busy guy.

I mean, he's got a million things going on.

You do the show with him.

He's like, hey, want to come see the museum?

Want to see the update?

Your friend, your friend, your friend wasn't here last time.

Yeah, he needs to see it.

He'll take you along right into the museum.

And it does like an hour and a half, two-hour tour.

That sounds great.

Yeah, it is.

He's a nice guy.

I'm always appreciative of.

And he's saving American stuff.

I have like one piece of movie memorabilia.

I have the

kimono kind of jacket that Marlon Brando wore in the Tea House of the August moon that was sold at the MGM auctions and bought by somebody who gave it to somebody who gave it to me as a gift.

And that's about it.

Oh, a friend of mine used to have that little

Cuisinard or whatever the hell it was that was on the back of the of the of the car in Back to the Future.

There was some sort of.

Oh, really?

He has the real one, a real piece?

Yeah, he's got the one.

He bought it at the auction for this.

That was cool.

Yeah.

Unfortunately, he died, but I don't know who I guess is what.

Yeah, but you need to go knock on the door.

Hey, somebody's got that one.

I want my Cuisinart.

What was it?

It wasn't a Cuisinart.

A microwave?

Was it a microwave?

No, it was a little device of some sort.

I don't know.

I forgot.

It was on the back, and you'd put something in it, and it'd grind it up and it made the car go fast um

nothing but logic involved capacitor it was something

whatever it was and i don't know too many people that collect uh movie

actually brunetti's got a pretty decent collection of stuff who's renee brunetti

brunetti oh brunetti dana dana brunetti yes yeah dana's got a collection of stuff but it's all contemporary it's nothing that i notice that is old no because he doesn't know what he's doing.

Yeah.

He knows what he's doing.

You need to give him some advice on collectibles.

I mean,

he should be swimming, and he should have.

I mean, the easy one is.

I think I have a family guy script.

Does that count?

Yeah, that does count.

Now, so I was at the meetup.

You know, I was at the meetup, and there was a woman and her husband, and the guy brought up a new possible Zed thing.

He's a construction company.

He works a construction company.

Yes, Zeds.

Go Zeds.

They They can't read a tape.

A tape?

Like a tape measure.

What?

You got a tape measure?

They can't.

They're clueless.

He says they don't know what the hell it is or what you're supposed to do with it.

What do you mean?

They don't understand that it's to measure length?

Yeah.

All of the above.

Skeptical.

But his wife was there telling me that she has a place in Idaho and they go back and forth.

And her mom lives up there.

And her mom, this gets kind of busted my preconceived notions.

Her mom had a thrift store.

And I was thinking, ah, so she'd like to collect stuff.

And the first thing you want to do is get it out of the house and you put up a thrift store and you move it out.

You get rid of the stuff.

But it turns out that that's not what happens if you own a thrift store.

You end up collecting more stuff.

I believe that to be true.

Because all this cool stuff comes in.

We got a note from a Zeds note, which, by the way, we're not picking on Zeds.

No, we're just pointing out some foibles.

Anomalies, some foibles, yes.

This producer was in the Air Force.

No, he is in the Air Force.

And

they use nothing but Microsoft Office products.

And a lot of the Zeds are just so used to using tablets and iPhones when they sit at a computer, it's like a foreign language to them.

The sitting and staring at the screen is very commonplace.

It's like they forget how to read and function when in front of a computer.

They say, well, okay, what's next?

And I'm sitting next to them reading the text on screen, which tells them exactly what to do next.

He says, you're both right on the money with the assessment.

I wanted to add to this.

The Zeds traditionally did not grow up with a computer in the home.

When they asked these kids, they always say no.

They had their phones and tablets and did everything and it just makes sense, but they have no idea how

desktops work.

Unless, of course, they were gamers.

The gamers, he says, they're the best because they can actually build the computer right in front of your face.

So, yes, they understand that.

But this, I find this to be a deficit in education

that they're only using tablets and touchscreens.

I mean, you should, I'd say, you should have, I mean, there's still no evidence that the mouse will actually, anyone wants these mice, but you should know how to, I think, she should know how to use one.

You know, and simple,

simple thing.

I mean, I guess they can probably do Google Docs, maybe, but they don't understand them this is a this is a problem for microsoft

they have a whole generation growing up who don't know how to use their products

that's uh that's a problem well i brought this up in the last show they said do they have computer literacy courses in high school anymore apparently and it seems that they don't no no it's uh it's not which i think is a huge mistake people don't even i mean You should not only be able to use a computer with efficiency and effectiveness, but you should be able to understand

what's going on.

So, you know, when you save a file and you go back to look for it, it's either if you and you don't find it, you had this happen to you on the last show.

What happened to this clip?

You should be able to know how to find it on the machine because it obviously got put into the wrong folder.

Well, that really.

That all changed with iPads and an iPhone.

You're not really saving anything into a folder structure anymore.

You just save it.

And then you hope that

your word processing program or what is it?

What do they use?

Numbers.

Numbers.

And what's the, what is that?

Instead of

word, they, what does Apple use?

Lotus 123.

Lotus 123.

No.

Yeah.

They just look for recent.

You know, there's, there's no concept of a file structure,

file and folder structure on these devices anymore.

You should take a look at it.

Who am I?

That's a mistake.

Yeah.

Because you need to know this because you're going to, unless you're just so

you're stuck in a very short time loop.

Pages, thank you.

Pages, yes.

Pages, yeah.

I know about that.

Yeah.

You're stuck in a short time frame, and that's not good because you want to be able to archive stuff that you do on a computer so you can retrieve it in the future, like maybe five years later.

Yeah, but they just, they just type it into Google.

Where's this document?

And it comes back.

I'm telling you.

You hope.

Yeah.

Well, obviously.

I mean, I use, I love this system that I use.

What's it called?

SFX.

Everything.

Everything.

The everything.

I've told you about this.

I think you might have installed it at some point.

It's free.

You can donate, which I do.

Everything.

It's at voidtools.com.

This actually would be

a good tip of the day.

And man, that thing, it is so fast.

that's how i find all of these when you say hey how about that clip from from 1783 and i'm talking about the year not the episode number and i can find it with this program because you can really refine the search and what it's looking for and i have it set for audio files only i mean

these are important these are important skills to have if you want to be a podcaster

And everybody wants to be a podcaster.

They sure do.

They all want to be podcasters.

All right, we'll give you a couple more because we're running late today.

We're over time.

Yeah, we went long on

the Anglo-Dutch system.

Let's just do these.

These are the

I could do Baltimore Crime.

I'm going to push that off.

I want to do one of these word things because it's kind of interesting because I actually knew this and learned it in high school, but a lot of people don't know.

where the word, the word robot comes from and how it evolved.

There's a new feature on NPR that I kind of like.

It's really bitched about the fact they weren't giving me credit.

Oh, yeah, right.

So the word robot, let me just think, where does the word robot come from?

Is it a, I'm just guessing, was it an acronym?

No.

They actually tell you in here, and it's quite, and I learned this in, I believe, when I was a senior in high school because we discussed the, uh, this,

it comes from the title of a play.

Huh, let's hear it.

Everyone has an idea of what a robot is, but do you know where the word came from?

No.

And Pierre's Emma Bowman has the answer in the latest installment of our Word of the Week series.

What kind of talk is this?

When Melania Trump used the word just last week during a meeting with the White House Task Force on AI Education, she was referring to artificial intelligence.

The robots are here.

Our future is no longer science fiction.

Who wrote that for her, by the way?

You're mean.

You're mean to make Melania say the robots are here.

Back in 1920, Czech writer Karol Chapek first imagined the robot in his play R-U-R,

Rossum's Universal Robots.

In the satirical melodrama, the character Harry Domin runs a factory that churns out mechanical humanoid workers made of synthetic flesh and blood.

The robots are not people.

Mechanically, they are more perfect than we are.

They have an enormously developed intelligence, but they have no soul.

Is this a robot talking?

Is that.

You know, I don't know what that voiceover, they drop it in the blue.

It may have been

a line in the play that was read by AI.

I think there was a line in the play.

Oh, okay.

The work is what introduced robot to the English language.

A negative connotation was built into the word from the start.

Modernity is turning us all into machines.

That's kind of the message.

Tobias Higbee teaches labor history at UCLA.

He says Chapek's work critiqued the socio-political climate of the time.

The rhetoric of the Dominion character echoed that of Henry Ford, the industrialist who pioneered mass production with assembly lines.

As technology advanced in auto production and elsewhere, the idea of the robot began evolving, and talk soon pivoted to how it would hurt workers by throwing them out of their jobs and denying them their livelihood so robots became analogous to machines not workers that's how we got to blade runner terminator and i robot through it all robot has held on to its same loose definition says linguist adam alexic there's always this implication of it is a forced worker well i think they kind of uh skip over lost in space going straight to terminator yeah you're right lost in space is a better example yeah Yeah, with that.

Robbie.

And I'm not sure.

And Robbie the Robot.

I was a fan of Robbie the Robot.

He was in a lot of movies.

Robbie the Robot.

The Jetsons had what was their

hazel.

Hazel.

Hazel, yeah, the robot.

You kind of glossed over those.

Well, they also gloss over the whole topic here as it falls apart.

So here we go.

He says Chapek's army of roboti, which translated to robot in English, derives from the old Slavic word robota, meaning servitude or forced labor.

The robot usually carries the looming threat to extinguish the human race.

It all goes back to RUR.

You know, spoiler alert: at the climax of the play, the robots gain self-consciousness and slaughter all the humans.

Nowadays, robots are being marketed as our assistants, girlfriends, pals, and our equals.

Interpretations of the robot that stray further than ever from the word's definition in its 100-year history.

Emma Bowman, NPR News.

Yeah, that's interesting because

you just know that these AI companies will never use the term robot because they don't want you to think that you can control them,

that they're your slave.

They always want you to think, well, one day it's going to eat you.

It's going to take over the world.

We just need more money for more compute.

They just need more money.

The more you know, in the morning.

Yeah, learn something on the show.

I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.

Imagine all the people who could do that.

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

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And as we wind down the last show before number 1800, 1800, John is going to find, we have a lot of things still coming up.

We got end-to-end mixes.

We have meetup or no reports.

It'll be quick.

But we also have the tip of the day and Secretary General's to welcome in.

And some nights.

Oh, we got a lot to do, actually.

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I was kissing up the boss.

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Wow, good job, Kevin.

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Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

Bum, bum, bum.

You to be where you want me.

Tripping on hell's lame.

You to be where everybody feels the same.

Bum, bum, bum.

It's like a party.

And before we get to the tip of the day, we do have to find a nice ISO to end everything up with.

And John is back to obviously

11 Labs because I see a dad gum, and I'm going to play it to listen to what it is.

Dad Gummit, another doozy of a podcast.

Yep, there you go.

You said you try some different voices.

I was using the girl for a while, the sexy girl,

Jennifer, and you hated it after a while for hearing it too much.

So I went to Caleb.

We were in church this morning, and

church is like a show.

They got their music segment.

They have a donation segment.

They have a video promo segment.

And it's like

for the women's ministry.

I'm like, whose voice is that?

They're using AI now.

They're using AI for voiceover in the church.

Like, oh, man, we run out of women.

It was somewhat painful.

For you.

Oh, no.

Now that's the reason you, in today's show,

you said you've given up.

You're going to let AI do its thing.

Yeah, I have to.

We need to.

Because

the church has the influence over you.

Oh, yeah.

It's the church that has influence.

No.

I'll have to talk to Jesus about it, see what he says.

Here's my

AI voice back.

I don't think so.

Here is my first ISO.

Am I living in the Twilight Zone?

Yeah, that's not too bad.

Okay, and then I have this one.

I could literally talk about this for three hours.

Hours?

I hate to say it, but I think my Caleb one is better.

Then we'll go with the Caleb because I've given up on AI, but not giving up on the tip of the day.

Green advice for you and me.

just the tip with JCD,

and sometimes at home.

Okay, we're going to a sealant.

A sealant?

Oh, we haven't done a good seal.

We're going to have a rotation.

Now we're going to have a product.

There's a product show.

This sealant, silicon sealant.

Sealant.

From ASI, the ASI 502 Silicon Sealant.

This turns out to be something you can pretty much seal anything with.

If you've watched the TV ads with the guy with the black goo and he puts it on everything, leaking boats and all this stuff.

Can you seal your muffler with it?

Yes, I think you can.

It's a new kind of

a

category of products called RTVs.

RTVs.

And RTVs are,

it stands for room temperature vulcanization.

Huh.

And room and vulcanizing, which is invented to make

fake tires, has started, and it was always a high-pressure, high-temperature, sulfur related process that was a that was intense and room temperature vulcanization is kind of like like uh

room temperature fusion.

You know, it's kind of like, oh, you can't do that.

But you kind of can and and Mimi's actually used this stuff.

If you anyone has a blend tech blender, which is oh, you you can blend anything.

Will it blend?

The will it blend guys.

Well, they have these the special mixing, the

thing at the top, whatever you call it, container that has the knife blades in the bottom.

Those things,

those things are

specifically designed

and they are expensive.

They cost like over $100 to get one replaced.

She had one leaking on her.

Well, the whole blender is like $600 or $700.

The blender is overpriced.

But it does the job, let me tell you.

But

she used this RTV stuff on the crack in the

thing, and it's safe for food usage.

It's got a special category.

It's safe

once it vulcanizes and becomes solid.

It's a killer product.

It comes in a tube.

You can get it on Amazon and elsewhere.

And once again, the name of that is

the ASI 502 RTV Silicon Sealant.

It's a winner, everybody.

Seal it and let us know how it went.

There it is.

John's tip of the day.

great advice for you and me just the tip with JCD

and sometimes Adam

created by Dana Bernetti all right there you go everybody that's it for today I'm sure there will be something

something else to discuss on Thursday no doubt about it as we've got our eye on the Anglo-Dutch connection the system

It's my new beat, and I'm excited about it.

If you stick around on your modern podcast app or noagendastream.com, you will hear Random Thoughts Up Next.

Jail Reform Roulette is the title.

I don't know what the guys are up to this time.

Sure, that would be fun.

Thank you all for being with us today once again.

Be nice to each other.

And stay tuned for the end of show mix as Professor Jay Jones checks in.

David Keck, the brand new end of show mix from him, he's got a studio back up and running.

And Secret Agent Paul, we need more from Secret Agent Paul.

And we'll see you again on Thursday, coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in the vineyards of Fredericksburg, Texas.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where

I remain.

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

We'll be back on Thursday.

Remember us at NoAgendadonations.com.

Until then, adios, mofos, a hooey hooey, and such.

Allow me to sum up this week's news.

Hitler is back.

Hitler.

Hitler is back, everybody.

How dare you?

Let me take you back to 1939.

Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist?

Yes, I do.

Hitler is back.

21% of Gen Z Americans think Adolf Hitler had some good ideas.

Actual American Nazis.

It's a Nazi rally.

How dare you?

Donald Trump has said he would terminate the Constitution of the United States.

Out, out, out!

Praising Adolf Hitler, saying Adolf Hitler did some good things.

Certainly falls into the general definition of fascists.

It's perfect.

To celebrate the rise of Nazism, that Donald Trump would invoke Adolf Hitler.

Back home to mommy.

She goes back home to mommy.

How is that casting aspersions?

This is next-level QAnon stuff?

They'll say, you know, Trump's supporters have set off a dirty bomb in Philadelphia.

They're counting on us to help him win.

They're counting on us to propagate their clips.

Vowed to be a dictator on day one.

Someone needs to calm her down.

Hitler did not do some good things.

No, okay, will you stop it there?

We're making some news here when it comes to pharmaceutical maths.

You don't have to exercise.

You don't have to pay attention to your diet.

Whatever goes wrong with you, you can fix with a truck.

They're gonna have to report all their side effects.

In some cases, they might create an advertisement that's four minutes long.

Back prior to 1997,

advertising in magazines had page after page after side effects reported.

Whatever goes wrong with you, you can fix with a truck.

Truck.

pharmaceutical ads.

We learned this morning that the FDA is now saying that it's okay to take an ivermectin

if you have tools that can fit.

One of the most exciting things we're working on, again, using the tools that Sam and Masa are providing,

is our cancer vaccine.

If you're white, you're a racist.

If you're male, you're a pig.

If you're cis, you are privileged.

Skinny shining if you're big.

And if you're straight, you're homophobic.

Heaven help if you're own.

So don't have an opinion.

And just do watch your tone.

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