Kylie & Zooey Deschanel on New Girl Celeb Cameos, Cat Dad Partners & Worst Kid Eating Habits | Ep. 48

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Not gonna lie, lie, our elf Emi Nemi has really been stepping it up this week.

She better cut that shit out because she's setting the bar a little too high and we like low expectations.

She even put paper ornaments hanging from the kitchen ceiling.

Whatever, let's get this podcast started.

Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie A Wave Original, brought to you by Ollipop, a new kind of soda.

I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, aka that lady with four kids is always warning you to stay away from her husband.

That's accurate. I've watched all seven seasons of New Girl at least eight times.
That's not an exaggeration.

And my version of self-care is driving by myself into the city, playing the music that I want to hear and not getting screamed at for it, and picking up food that I specifically want to eat.

To be quite honest, I do that. I drive into the city to get good city food when

typically when I have a call,

because if it's a 30, if I know it's going to be 30 minutes and I don't have to be on video, you're probably getting my undivided attention when I'm driving my car.

Because I'm not a sitting duck in my house for my kids to be like, hey, mom, mom, hey, mom. Mom, can you get down the big snack bin? Mom,

can you get me something out of the drawer? Mom, can you fill up my water bottle? Mom. Also, Wyatt recently figured out how to use the remote.

So I had to hide that on a higher shelf because every time someone started talking, suddenly the volume on our living room TV was at 80.

Do you know how loud 80 is? Oh my God.

It straight up sounds like you are having the grand finale of Disney fireworks in your living room. It is insane.
And that's what she's doing. And so I can't speak to other people in my house.

It's very passive aggressive. It is honestly.
It's so passive aggressive. And she doesn't say anything.
She just turns it up. And she also knows that I'm going to take the remote.

So she hides it next to her leg and turns it up and then just sort of looks at you like,

did she notice that it's deafening so loud that you can't even hear your own thoughts?

Did she notice yet? Yes, I noticed.

Coming up in today's episode, I'm going to get honest about the only type of gift opening event I do enjoy, white Elephants, and some of the funniest moments we had during the Eagles holiday party over the years.

After that, I can't believe this is finally happening and I'm getting to talk to her in person.

I'm going to be joined by the lead actress from one of my all-time favorite TV shows, Zoe Deschanel.

I'm so excited. Oh my gosh, I cannot wait.
This was such a staple in my house. I really cannot emphasize enough that it was like a, it was like a full family event.
event.

Like this was one of those shows that we could put on and no one in the house would argue. That's a big deal.
Even Big Ed was sat. You see what I did there?

Big Ed was sat for some new girl. I could even get him to finish the theme song.
Who's that girl? It's Jess.

But first, let's get to a brand new edition of Places Kylie has some business being brought to you by CBS Health.

This past week, I guess I can admit, I had some business attending the March of Dime sports luncheon because I was there to present Jason with an award. It was the Sports Achievement Award.

He and Katie Ledecki were receiving it.

I would just like to throw out there right off the jump.

I was fangirling so hard on Katie Ledeck.

I was not cool about it. I actually went up to her and said, I am such a huge fan.

And then I immediately went into confession where I said to her, I have to admit, I have said that the one sport I don't want my kids to do is swimming. And she said, Oh, I know

it is so, I just don't. I can't.

I understand that my husband was very, very good at his job. I understand that he is probably on the trajectory, and I'm saying probably because I am a superstitious individual

end up in the Hall of Fame to be in the presence of someone who has

14 Olympic medals, I think. I was trying to play it cool.
If I wasn't cool about it, Katie,

I tried my very hardest.

I will say the event raised $1.4 million to support maternal and infant health programs. Shout out to Marcia Dimes and all the incredible work they are doing.

It was so great to be able to sit at this luncheon and hear about all of the families that were impacted

by their work and the research and programs that they are funding. It is so important, obviously, as someone who

has experienced loss myself, who has experienced five pregnancies, it is very much

an important cause.

And obviously,

I am in full support of all of the work that they are doing. So I'm very grateful to have been able to sit there and learn more about it.

Now, on a much lighter, much more ridiculous note about this event, there were also lots of clips going around of Jason and I dressed up for the occasion.

And the real ones, no, I can't resist a comment section. So starting with this one, I love it how she's dressed like a normal person would dress for a big event.
Guys.

Normal person got dressed for an event. But a majority of the comments were people shocked by how I look when I'm not wearing sweatpants for once.

Someone's like, Kai Kelsey, look at you with a flame emoji. Someone else said, My, don't you look good all dressed up, guys? It's strategic, okay?

If I wear sweatpants all the time, right?

Then my

baseline is dirtball. Okay,

that's great. That's my baseline.
Then, when I have to step it up a little bit, okay, when I wear hard pants or heels,

and then you guys will be like, wait, what?

Does she, does she got it? Guys, sometimes I have to put on hard pants so that everyone doesn't keep asking, why did that fine ass slice of man,

who are we kidding? That's not a slice, why that fine ass whole dessert ass of a man

pick that.

Sometimes I got to remind you, when I want to,

I can look a little put together,

but you got to set the bar low.

Low.

Because all that was,

that was like a blow dry. I don't know.
That was a blow dry.

Yep, that was a blow dry. And a blazer.

Easy. Honestly, fuck that.
It's not for anybody else. It's for yourself.

You got to dress up every so often just to be like, oop. Yep, you can still do it.
There it is.

There it is. You can still actually use the things in in your makeup bag.
There it is.

You can still use a curling iron. There it is.

And then promptly return back to dirt ball. And that's it for places.
Kylie has some business being brought to you by CBS Health.

Next, let's move on over to Doom Scroll the Week, brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places.

First up on Doom Scroll, there's a viral clip from the other podcast going around that you guys keep asking me to comment on. So here we go, Queen Emma.
The clip, please.

You claim that you and your wife haven't gotten in a fight in 10 years. That's right.
are you lying no i'm not lying travis

i'm just asking shall we ask you the same questions well it's only been two and a half years and you're right i haven't gotten in an argument

i've met this incredible woman that she's beautiful and smart and stands for all the most important things that i believe in in the world and i i can't believe how lucky i am so what am i gonna fight about yeah you can use that if you want i'm stealing it for sure we had a couple comments i need at kylie kelcey input with crying laughing faces uh someone said jason likes rage baiting kylie too much notice how my husband was oddly quiet during this segment uh he did ask a couple clarifying questions but for the most part his ass knew that he could not say that after almost eight years married

we absolutely argue now do we argue often Not really, but we've definitely argued

for sure. I'm wondering if they're trying to classify an argument as like an argument, right? Like a like almost like a yelling, like to be fair,

I'm not a yelling arguer. So like our like the arguments in our house don't, they're not a yelling situation.
I just think that if you're married, you live together, specifically if you have children,

I think it gets like you're potentially having some sleepless nights.

You might have like varying degrees of patience with certain situations with your kids. Also,

I do think it's important to figure out what the definition is of the argument. That's why I'm saying, like, is it a yelling?

Is that how we're, is it like a yelling thing that we're not going to argue? Is it like,

is that different from bickering? You're telling me you don't bicker or argue, or maybe you do bicker, but you don't argue. I'm very confused about this.

To George Clooney's credit,

I would not argue with them all either.

Absolutely not. I would be right behind her, like, yeah, get them.

What she said.

I'm with her.

Whatever she says, we ride at dawn. If she wants to come on this podcast, you just come through, girl.

She is far more professional than this.

Seems unlikely, but the invite's there.

Next up, I've already briefed you guys on the gold that is the comment section, and I just stumbled across a Hall of Fame worthy one on a recipe video with the caption: What my future kids are going to be getting when they ask for a snack.

There was a kneading of the dough, okay? There was a resting of the dough, there was a

forming of the dough.

They mixed cream cheese, something or other, put a fig, a fresh cut fig on top. They drizzled some honey and some pistachios.

What you got to do when you see this kind of thing,

run.

Okay? You run. You sprint as fast as humanly possible.
You go as fast as your little fingers will get you to that comment section and you start scrolling. And let me tell you,

this didn't disappoint. Okay.
Have you ever met a child before? This is one of the first comments, okay? My son wouldn't eat a bagel because quote the whole tastes weird so good luck with that nope

nope you cut it the wrong way

okay

this is on don't you ever cut triangles when they wanted squares okay

If you know, if you have witnessed a crash out by a toddler because you cut a food the wrong way,

you are scarred for life. There's nothing that can bring, you are literally making a new sandwich.
It's not,

and people who want to be like, wow, let them have a tantrum, they'll eat when they're hungry. Yeah, you're right.
You know what? My ears have had enough.

I'm probably going to make another sandwich. Guys, here's the deal.

I do just think,

I just think that we're all, as parents, we're all just fighting the good fight. Okay.

And here's the deal. If this woman

has kids and her kids are patient enough to wait for the fig buns,

power to you. My kids are all different types of eaters.
Some days they like the pasta. Some days they don't.

Some days it's the shape of the pasta that is incorrect.

Some days it is the wrong kind of cheese. It's crazy when you feed your kids something, they're like, that's great, and they don't argue with you.

Typically, they don't even say that's great, they just don't argue with you. I don't know if that's anyone else's situation.
It's not that my kids are like, wow, mom, this is delicious.

They just don't argue with you. And to me, that is like one of the sweetest, kindest feedbacks about a dinner presentation that I can receive.

And our last video is one of the most heartwarming TikToks I've doom-scrolled upon ever.

And it's a cause near and dear to my heart. Queen Emma, the clip, please.

Come here, come here. Nope, that wasn't embarrassing at all.
Now that I think about it, I get rejected a lot.

Little broke flying by.

Meanwhile,

my goal is to get the kids to a space where they're independent on their parents

in a space where they can actually enjoy the rest of the haircut time. Come on, thank you.
That's all I need. Fist bump.
That's it. She's right there.

I love this so much. I love this so much.
First of all, shout out to Vernon Jackson and the gifted event in Cincinnati for all the incredible work that you're doing for neurodivergent kids.

On the gifted event homepage, it says, As a barber, I saw the need for a place where children with disabilities are supported during a haircut and an environment where parents or caregivers don't have to explain their child's behavior or apologize for something they may do or say.

This is so important.

This is so important to give families the space to do something that

neurotypical families may take for granted.

Obviously, if you take kids into a barbershop or to get a haircut, a neurotypical kid might be uncomfortable with clippers or have an outburst, or it's not something that might be happening on a regular basis.

So any kid might take issue with this. But specifically, the neurodivergent population,

the sensory of it, the clippers touching your neck, the sound of it,

the comb running through their hair. All of these things could be things that could trigger any type of sensory issue or honestly just be uncomfortable because it's unknown.

It is so amazing that not only is Vernon taking it upon himself to create this safe space for these families, but he is also sharing it via social media to make sure that if you feel so inclined, you can donate, which is amazing.

But the other thing is, is to show that

he is using his tools to be able to interact with these kids in a way that is not only productive for them,

but settling to their parents. So, Vernon, thank you so much for making a safe space for these kids and their families.

You can donate at thegiftedevent.com. NGL will be making a donation.

We are so incredibly grateful to you and also for sharing what your strategies are and how you're using them so that maybe other people will feel inclined to offer this in their cities or near their homes.

Next time I'm in Cincinnati,

maybe I could stop by.

Please. Just come for a visit real quick.

That's it for Doom Scroll the Week, brought to you by Toyota. Zoe Deschanel is coming up.
But first, it's time to get even more honest, real ones. This is, Can I Be Honest?

About white elephants brought to you by amazon shop holiday deals now before jason retired we did a white elephant every year for our holiday party with the eagles wives and this is the only time i truly enjoy opening gifts in front of people i really because it's i think because it's not intended for you

And also, it's a true surprise. You don't know who gave the gift.
You don't put your name on the gift. You don't know who brought it.
That's another fun aspect to it.

Sometimes at the end, when all of the gifts are open you can go around in a circle and try and guess who brought the gift that you ended up with which is kind of fun um

the most memorable gifts

hmm i mean my box of fucks was great that was an annie elliott special uh i ended up with a box of

oh my middle finger's missing Oh no, it's right there. My middle finger candle was in the box of fucks.
There was a Christmas ornament of an elf giving the middle finger.

The subtle art of not giving a fuck is also a book that was included in there. She's under here.

Might be able to see her.

You see her? She's under there.

Squirrel's back.

That's a full-blown squirrel, though. That's a hefty-ass squirrel.
He's big boy.

Look at him. He's trying to hide a nut right now.

Okay.

I will tell you. that I brought the exact same gift every single year.

Okay.

And this is, this is my sleeper gift for a white elephant. Specifically, one that is,

you could do it if it's co-ed as well, but we were a room of women, so it translated very nicely.

Almost every single year on Black Friday or Cyber Monday, I would go online, find the best deals. on some expensive ass sunglasses

and I would get sunglasses. One year I got like really nice ones that were like funky and cool, like sunglasses I would never personally wear because I'm just not cool enough.

But they were these awesome like statement sunglasses and I got those on hella sale. And then I brought them for the white elephant.

Otherwise I would buy ones on sale that I would personally wear

because they were a little more like everyday sunglasses.

And they always,

I feel like people were excited to get them because don't we all just lose all of our sunglasses? There was one year

that uh

I

someone brought, I don't even know what the bag is called, but it's a bag that collapses down. Someone will know in the comments

that collapses down and was just like a standard tote bag, but it was very nice and very low-key, and I liked it. And I stole it, and then it got stolen from me.

So, what I did before I left was I looked it up and I ordered it myself so that I could still have it

because

that's on not being a purse person, but knowing when a bag was going to do what I needed it to do.

Things that people, again, not necessarily a specific size, that a bunch of people would enjoy are great gifts. And one last white elephant pro tip here, real ones.

If you have your own white elephant coming up, might I recommend a nice scroll on Amazon? They break down gifts into categories, which makes it super easy to find what you're looking for.

You can also search for specific price points.

Plus, you can pretty much find anything on Amazon and have it delivered right to your door. And let's be honest, if you forget and you're in a pinch,

they probably got you back. That's it for Can I Be Honest? Brought to you by Amazon.
Coming up, my conversation with Zoe Deschanel. Also, shout out to our NGL queens for decking out this festive set.

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If you know just one thing about me, there's a very good chance. It's that I have a lot of kids.
Like, I still can't believe I have four tiny humans. Four.
I surprise myself every time I say that.

But having four kids, plus a husband, a dog, all our extended family and friends means I have quite the holiday shopping list. And that's where Amazon comes in clutch.

You can find pretty much anything for anyone right on Amazon. I do love to scroll Amazon like a good old Doom scroll because you get suggestions on the homepage.
Sometimes you're like, you know what?

I did need that. Thank you for suggesting it.
I also love how Amazon has so many different categories for gifts.

If I'm trying to think of ideas, I've said this before, but my gift giving skills could use some improvement. Plus, you guys already know I love a good deal.

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Not only can you find anything for anyone on Amazon, you can also have it delivered right to your door, which is so nice to not have to pack the kids up and go out shopping.

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That's a big understatement.

My kids know they have to wash their hands immediately when they come through the door. Honestly, do not bring your school germs into this house.
Ew, ew.

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Our guest today is the Emmy Golden Globe and Grammy nominated actress known for her iconic roles in Elf, 500 Days of Summer, and my favorite TV show of all time, New Girl.

And now you can also watch her in her newest holiday movie, Merv, out now on Prime Video. She's also a fellow mom and animal lover, and she's officially, not going to lie, Zoe Deschanel.

Welcome to the show. Thank you for having me.
This is so exciting.

I re-watch New Girl every spring.

I love that about you. Every single spring.
That is amazing. I have shows that I watch in season.

New Girl is a spring show. I can't explain it.
It makes total sense i i think you're right and i watch it start to finish every time i love that that's so great and we imagine bandies

look at this yeah um big fan uh my dad is i have to give in a picture here my dad big ed he's called big ed because he's six foot nine big guy yes um union electrician like grew up in philadelphia he's really he's a character my family's from philly too have we did we talk about this yet?

No.

Did you know that? No. This is groundbreaking information.
Like my family came over on a land grant from William Penn in the 69. Love this so much.
Get deep in. Pennsylvania.
Yes. Yes.
Uh-huh.

So you, you have Philly roots.

Deep Philly roots. Yes.
Love it. Yes.
We will circle back to New Girl because I have a lot of questions. Okay.
I have answers. I love that.

But first, since we're in this winter wonderland of a set and it's Christmas time, I'm going to start with Elf if that's okay.

please but also can i just this artwork is really great who did that artwork my children they did a really good job

for their ages yeah for their ages yeah yeah

um we watch e.l.f. every year in our house i think most households do

um

I saw you say that your daughter has finally started to show some interest in watching ELF.

Has she watched it yet this year? No, she hasn't.

I think she wanted to have like some friends over to watch it.

I was like, I won't watch it with you because that's weird, but I

um, but I, but yeah, it's cute because they love rom-com, like these 10-year-olds, like they love rom-coms.

Um, so I was like, Yeah, I think they'll enjoy it. I think they'll enjoy this new film I have out, Merv.

Um, it's PG's, so kids can watch it. So, I was like, happy about that.
Um, but yeah, I think, I think she'll enjoy it. My son, no interest.

Um,

He loves movies, but he, I think he wants mommy to be mommy and sure, not like an actor. That's fair.
He's fine with like voices and cartoons, but he's like, weird.

You're here and that's. Yeah.
He's like, no. He wants a divide.
Yeah. Fair enough.
Exactly. Yeah.

It also feels like every year there's a viral tweet about how someone didn't recognize you as Jovi with your blonde hair. Yes.

Do you hear that a lot? Like, do people give you that feedback of forgetting or not realizing that it was you? Yeah, I have a face that changes

dramatically with makeup and hair changes. So, like, hair color changes, like, no bangs.
I look like a different person.

I think I feel like I would be a good CIA agent, like, if I weren't an actor, but also, I would, I don't have the nervous system for it. I wouldn't,

but I do change a lot. Like, if you put a wig on me, I really look different.

Um, and I'm not tall, so you might not notice me. So that's where I can stick out like a sore thumb.
Well, it's amazing because then everybody's like, who's this beautiful tall lady?

But if you're short, you're just like, you know, sneaking in. Sneaking in.
That's where Jonathan being tall,

everyone looks at him and then they go, oh, look, it's a property brother. And I'm like, you're ruining everything for me.

I can be incognito. Look at me down here.
It's like,

that's you just have to do what i do to my mother-in-law in an nfl stadium which is go oh my gosh is that mama kelcey and then i run the opposite direction and just like sick everybody on her is she tall short she's tall she's she's almost i i would say she's probably 5'10 maybe 5'11.

okay yeah but it's it's great i mean

it's a spectacle yeah but it's great for me because i don't like to be the center of attention so i just like hey is that yeah is that travis's mom And then just run. Wow.
That's great.

Everyone is in a business. We love a baby.

Yeah. Except my mom, 5'2 ⁇ .
Oh, my God. My mom's 5'2 ⁇ , my dad's dad's mom.
6'2 ⁇ , and then my sister's 5'9 ⁇ , and then I'm 5'4 ⁇ .

So we're kind of like all you have, you have sides of the family, kind of. Yeah, my dad's side is all pretty tall.
I think my grandma was like 5'10 or something like that. So, yeah.
So tall.

So my mom's family's short. So it was Philly Roots.
The Philly Roots is the tall. It's some in the water.
Yeah. Or in the order.
You get it. You get it.

You are from Philly. Okay.

Now,

since we're talking holiday movies,

you mentioned you have a brand new one out now on Prime Video called Merv. Yes.

It just came out last night. So, real ones, you know what to do.

First of all, as a dog lover, thank you for this movie. Oh, yeah.
Now, I've been trying to get our Irish Wolfhound to be a set dog. Oh, my God.

We actually got clearance to bring her to this set, but

she's working on it. Okay.
You know what? She also peed in our minivan this morning.

It's a whole thing. But she's also huge.

They're very big dogs. She's very big.

Which is

also my love of wolfhounds. Yeah.
Merv with the scruff. Scruff.
Star. So cute.
A wiry coat is so good. I love a wiry dog.
Yeah.

Now,

how was it working on set with the trained dog? Oh, he's

a professional. He's such a pro.

He actually works at Universal Studios in Florida, like doing, like, he can do so much cool stuff. He's a rescue dog.
His name's Gus. He's such a good boy.
He, like,

we were doing press with him this morning and he was like sitting there like perfectly.

And there's like, they had like a treat by the camera. But he's just such a sweet dog.
He's very calm. Like he's special, you know, like, yeah.

We actually would have to, because he kind of doesn't get like, you know, dogs will get like excited. Yeah.
Yeah. He, he kind of.

He's more like dignified, you know? Sure. And so when we'd have to get a dog to be kind of like wild and dog-like, like the kind of dog that peas in your minivan.
Yes.

We'd have to bring in his stunt double whose name was Captain Chaos. And Captain Chaos was like.
Is that his government name? I don't know. They called him Captain Chaos.
Got it. Okay.
Because he was

big. Yeah.

One of my favorite movie genres is definitely the holiday rom-com.

Yes. And this is.
Love Actually, for you. Love Actually and the Holiday are all-timers for me.
Yes.

What was it about Merv that made you want to do another holiday rom-com? Well, I didn't even realize it was a holiday movie when I read it. I just thought it was a rom-com.
And I love rom-coms.

And I just, I don't think people are making enough of them. And I'm like, this is a genre.
I love, I love to do rom-coms. I love that it has like this mix of like, like, it's like character driven.

It's, it's like a piece where you can really like have, you know, interesting characters. And then the, the fact that it's at the holidays.
To me, I thought of it like this.

When you think of a guy eating alone on a Tuesday, you're like, that's kind of sad.

But maybe you won't see it alone. Then you think of a guy eating alone on Christmas.
Then you go, oh my God, I feel so bad. Infinitely sadder.
It heightens your emotions.

Like talking about like love actually in the holiday, like I love those films because they have this Christmas element, but they also have like a depth to them.

And I think this film, it's very funny, but it also has a depth to it that I, that I really connect with. And I, I, I, I think

for me, makes the rom-com so much sweeter, you know? Yes. Now, speaking of animals, just from a quick scroll of your TikTok, I can tell that you also love cats.
Yes, I have three.

I love my kitties. I want to take every opportunity on this podcast that I possibly can to try and influence my husband

to get a cat. Oh my gosh.
You, okay, I'm going to tell you, I have like super affectionate cats. Love this.

And so we had two dogs that we loved, a Chihuahua and a Yorkie, and they were Jonathan's when we met. And

they were very old and then they passed away, which we were very sad and had a little hole in our hearts for our, you know, animals.

But we didn't want a dog because they're another dog, just because it's a lot to take on. Yes.

So I'd always wanted a cat, but my parents were allergic when I was growing up. And so I'd never gotten one.

And then my daughter, our daughter, had been been asking for a cat since she was like 18 months old. Like basically since she could say cat, she'd be like, I don't like dog.
I like cats.

She's like, I like cats more. Like it was so cute.
And her Christmas list every year would be like, cat, cat, get a cat. It'd be like summer bucket list, get a cat.
Like everything was cats.

And so finally I was like, can we get this? Jonathan was a little bit like. skeptical about cats.
Can we get, you know, can we get a cat?

And I was like, I think we need to get two because they need to keep each other company. Then we ended up with three.
But they are. It's cat math.
Yes, exactly. It's cat math.

They are super affectionate. They're so sweet.
Jonathan loves them now. That's so much.
She's a total cat dad. Love it.
And the thing is,

they are so low maintenance. Okay.
Now, I would love it if you could.

Put out a plea to my husband. Okay.
If you could do it direct to camera, just like a quick

uh just like hey jason yeah cats are it hey jason cats are it what i want you to know about them is they're basically like dogs but they're they have liquid bodies

they have like liquid bodies but or like maybe like a dog with a slinky as a spine um

They're super fun and athletic and they play fun games and they're so sweet. And I'll send you guys a video of my cat dove.

She like rolls over and like every time if I try to leave, she get up against the door and like roll over and it's so cute. And she licks my hand just like a dog.
So

you got to get a cat. They're so sweet.
Very good. Two.
We got to get two.

You can't have one. You get two or three.
It was no different having a third cat. No different.
I love this. Also, like dogs are so great, but sometimes they can be overwhelming.

And if they're big and they're jumping up a lot, it's like cats are totally different energy and they're they have a lot more calm energy what i love about cats too oh here's another reason jason

it's cats are great for kids because it's taught my son is like tons of energy and it's taught him like it's taught him how to be calm in a great way because the cats only will come up when you're chilling when they're chilling and my daughter's a bit more chill than my son and so it's great to teach kids how to regulate their emotions so my son would get in, he'd be like, so excited to see the cats.

And he'd be like, hey, and then they just run away. But then when he walks in calm, then they'll come up and climb in his lap and cuddle him.

The first time they came up and cuddled him, it was like, I was about to cry. It was so sweet because he was so happy.

Oh, I would cry. Yeah.
It taught him.

Like, you know, he has that like boy energy. He's like super, you know, kind of like

him for the calm. They rewarded him for coming in calm.
Are you kidding? Yeah. I would cry.
Yeah. That would get me.
Yeah. Yeah.
I was missed. Yeah.

Okay. Now, shifting gears to the main event here.

For me, as a fangirl, as I mentioned earlier, I've watched New Girl, I can't even tell you how many times, all the way through.

It's one of my favorite TV shows.

I love this so much. So, first and maybe most important question for you, when are we getting more?

I don't know. I will totally do it, though.
I'm in. I've said

I'm in. Let's do it.
Let's do it. Oh, please.
We'll have to do it. Jake doesn't, Jake Johnson doesn't really like to leave his house much.
So we might have to like film it at his house. But

I think he would do it if we filmed at his house one day a week.

This can, this sounds super doable. Okay, great.
It's doable. Great.
Please, dear God, do it.

Is there going to be a reunion maybe?

Also at his house?

We don't have anything planned but like again i'm up for it okay yeah all right so i just need to like rally the troops just rally the troops got it yeah um i'm also a sucker for bloopers and yeah the bloopers you guys had from the show was oh

well we were so tired let me tell you we work 16 17 hours some days is that that's not normal not normal we work like twice a normal work shift yes um

and then have to drive home.

And I remember there were times where we were like, we'd been doing those hours and then we'd do a six day week or something. And it would be like 6 a.m.
on Sunday morning.

And then we'd have to be like, they'd be like, we have a pickup from last week's episode that we have to like cut in. And we'd be like falling, like literally falling asleep.

Or like, like our body, your body just like stops

at a certain level of tiredness. It's like, there's not enough coffee in the world.
Actually. Since you're a mom, you'll get this.

When I was pregnant with my daughter and it was like before I could tell anyone and we were doing one of these like crazy marathon night shoes and I couldn't, you know, they were like, you can only have one cup of coffee.

I was like, I don't know how I'm going to get through this. I was drinking orange juice.
Okay. Not the same.
Get the sugar up. The sugar.
The caffeine. Yeah.
Caffeine was like, no.

Wow. Yeah.
It was a lot. That must have stung.
Yeah. But so the bloopers are great because we were unbelievably delirious.
We're delirious. And we did have so much fun.
You could tell.

We had so much fun. How hard was it to not laugh? So it's funny because I remember first season, like we, we got better at it.
First season, I remember everyone cracking up, like crew, everyone.

And I remember the boom mic that we had this, this

boom operator named Val. And that I would be like, oh, Val's laughing because he's shaking.

And they'd be like, like, that was the best feeling. I'd be like, we got the crew to laugh.
Like, if the crew laughs, you know, it's great. You know, it's funny.

Like, funny is if people laugh, and it's a validation. So it was very nice.
That's amazing. You guys also had so many amazing guest stars over the years.
Oh, my God. Yeah.

Does anyone stand out as your favorite? I know you were just talking about Prince.

Well, Prince, Taylor Swift.

I mean,

Rob Reiner and Jamie Lee Curtis.

I mean, we had so, it was crazy. The list list was so impressive.
I mean, Quinta Brunson came in and did a tiny part before she did Abbott Elementary.

We had like amazing, it was our casting directors were incredible. They just,

they found people before they were well known too. So that was, that was pretty cool.
Oh, Olivia Rodrigo.

was on when she was like 13.

She was just a child actor. And And I remember her because I was pregnant with my son, and my daughter was a baby, like in my trailer.
And I was like,

and she, she kept asking me questions about

my daughter. I was like, this kid's so sweet.
She keeps asking me questions. And then I was like, and then later, when she became famous, people look familiar.
Yeah, brought up all these things.

And I'm like, that she was like a child actor on my show.

That is like a lot of people. It was, it was pretty cool.
Yeah. Yeah.

So if we bring it back, yeah, we have to have everyone come back. That would honestly be very cool.
It would be very cool. Yeah.
Let's do that. Yeah.
Seems very good.

Queen Emma, my producer, is asking,

oh, what episode was my favorite? And I don't think they feel like that's like picking your favorite child. Oh.

What? Yeah. What's your, do you have a favorite? I don't.
Do you have any, like, do you have like a top 10 or anything or a top five?

Um,

when, when Jess and Nick get together, when you guys get together, that was like, oh, yeah, that's a

build.

That, I remember shooting that episode that, um, like everyone

came, it felt like everyone was on set. The other time, actually, here's another good guest star.
We had Tay Diggs on and he took his shirt off and like all of a sudden, everyone was on set.

And I was like,

we had like people from accounting I'd never met and they were like, they were, and I was like, oh, hi. I was like, I'm Zoe.
Like, who are you?

And they're like, oh i'm an accounting they're like um i'm like why are you here and they're like um we are dated

i'm like oh my god okay

that's actually amazing it was yeah it was like we had a full like audience that day um but yeah during that cooler episode we had everyone just wanted to be there when nick and jess got together we were trying to figure out like the best way the most like I was like, what if I walk away and he grabs my hand?

I was like, that's better, you know, and then everybody was trying to come up with like the best kiss, you know? Yeah.

An episode I love from the first season that every time I go back to it, I'm like, oh, that was so much fun. It feels like a movie almost was the wedding episode.

Natasha Leone, another amazing guest star, we had on that episode. The best part is, is like when I still rewatch it,

I still laugh out loud. Like the parts that made me laugh, they still get me.
They still like sneak up on you. I love that.
It's the best. It's so great.
I think it's like my ADHD.

I can like disassociate enough that it just leaves my brain. I have ADHD too.
It's great. Yeah, it's we're having fun.
It's called object permanent, no object permanence, right?

Yes, that's why a lot of my snacks live on the counter. Otherwise, I forget them and then I don't eat them.
Me too. Well, I realize it's like if I don't see it, it doesn't exist.

Um, I realize that thing is like when people be like, Well, I got into a habit. I'm like, No, I have to see it.
That's why all the things must be out. Yes, that's why my skincare is like takes over

my side of the sink is so ridiculous. My side is now on Jason's side.
It is a whole, there aren't sides anymore. It is just a full

full, all the stuff. Yeah.
Jonathan's like, um, he's so nice and he'll be very tolerant of my skincare. And he'll be like, um,

are you like gonna maybe edit some of this away?

No, because then I'll like forget like this was I'm really trying to be good about this one.

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Since I seriously talk about New Girl all the time and we love a pop quiz around here, my producer, Queen Emma, thought it would be funny. Okay.
This is her being funny.

If I played around a New Girl trivia,

it says against you, I think this is going to end up being funny. You're going to know it better.
No, you're going to know it better than me because I haven't leaves my brain.

I haven't watched it since. I haven't watched it since the spring.
Okay.

Okay. Let's see what we got.
Okay. All right.
We're going to get cards and everything. Okay.
It's very exciting. It's like we're game show hosts.
Oh, yes, we are.

I'll let you go first because you're the guest. Oh, okay.

I'm so worried because Queen Emma did say that she did not take it easy on us. Oh my God.
Okay. Okay.

The drinking game True American is featured in multiple episodes. The rules change, but it consistently starts with everyone shouting three letters.

I actually know the answer to this, even if I didn't look at it.

Because I made it up.

We all know.

That is a question I didn't have for you. Yeah, yeah.
I know that people have like since compiled the rules online.

When I was an RA in college,

the apartment across the hall, you could hear them playing because you would hear this. Oh my God.

And

it was so clear, but you would walk in and they had written down the rules and put them above the kitchen. Yeah.
Naturally. Yeah.
College decor. I love.
Do you want to guess this? And then I can say.

It's the initials of a president. Yes.

I think that it's JFK. Yes.
And then everyone chants back FDR. Yeah.
Okay, great. Yeah.

So, so we were all like, it was kind of the original way it was written was just like, they do a bunch of, you know, it was like, it didn't, it, it didn't say all that stuff.

And I like American history. So I was like, oh, what if we shout JFK and then FDR? Yeah.
And then George Washington Cherry Tree. Like we were all, all that stuff.
We, that was all, we made it up.

Okay. Uh, in season three, Winston takes his cheating girlfriend's cat.
What is the name of his cat? Ferguson is the name of the cat. This is the thing that sucked.

I freaking love cats and I never got to work with Ferguson and

Winston. Lamorne hates cats and had to constantly work with this cat.
Okay.

Jess ended her date with Robbie with a punch in the arm and a handshake. This form of departure is called A, the Philly fuck you.

B Cleveland sign-off. C, the Pittsburgh goodbye, or D, the old Topeka one, too.

Is it C?

Yes.

Yes. You knew another Pennsylvania.
Right? I was like, hmm, it's definitely not Philly, but that might be scratching a Pennsylvania itch. Yeah.

In season six, Nick gets a tattoo of Schmidt and Cece inspired by which classic rom-com?

Wait, I would not have had this. Wait, sorry.
Nick gets a tattoo.

Of Schmidt and Cece

inspired by which classic rom-com. Oh my God.
I don't. know.
I don't

remember him getting a tattoo at all. Can we see a picture of the tattoo? Oh, it's from Pretty Woman.
It's from Pretty Woman. Yeah.
Okay. That's

we might have to only

shipe Pretty Woman into Google. No.

Okay. In the episode titled Cece's Boys, Schmidt accidentally books the guys this service, something your husband, Jason Kelsey, if you forgot his name, has said he refuses to do.

I mean, rightfully so, he refuses to do this.

Yeah, he shouldn't want to do this. Is it a Brazilian? Yes.
Okay. Nobody wants to do that.

He's on record saying he will not get his ass cracked waxed.

He did get the rest of himself

waxed. Okay.

Was that for sports reasons? No, it was because he was going to wear, he lost a bet and he had to wear a speedo at a guest bartending event. Hmm.
Yeah.

Waxing is painful.

Yeah. That's what, but I said to him, if you're going to do it, don't do it half-assed, pun intended.
Do it full.

Get in there. Get in there.
He didn't. Yeah.

Whatever, Jason. Get a cat.

You lost the bet.

What name did the roommates call Schmidt when they were pretending only three people lived in the loft? A, Jilly. Oh.
B, Ginny. C, Jetty, or D, Poopy.

I think Ginny was correct. Okay, yeah.

Yes, that is correct. Okay.

In the season two finale, Taylor Swift plays a character who crashes Cece's wedding. Yes.
What is the name of Taylor's character?

Oh, no. It's actually the name of the episode.
She's in the name of the episode, actually.

I love how you have all of the episode names

locked in.

that's very impressive i have a very good memory for specific things and then there will be things that just like aren't important to me but if it's like usually i'll remember meeting people and where we stood and what kind of what they're wearing and what it looked like yes i don't know if everyone is like that but that's kind of how my mind works yeah um

i i don't think i would i don't think i would know okay

um

elaine oh i would have never gotten okay okay you remember now, I do, of course. How does Jess respond when Nick tells her he loves her for the first time?

I love this so much. Does she say, like, bye or something? It's a gesture.
I'll give you it's a gesture,

and it involves both hands. I think there's like a very

I can picture the moment. I know where we were when we shot that part.
I don't remember what I did, but I remember we were outside

the um in the alley, Not me preparing for that. Yeah.

Okay, tell me. Oh,

yes, those

just a casual finger guns. Finger guns, right? Because that plays big in the Prince episode.
Yes. Uh-huh.
Yeah. She doesn't know what to say.
Yep. Call her.

She needed Prince to

contour her.

Yes. To have a makeover montage.
Prince actually brought a suitcase full of his clothes because he wanted a makeover montage with his clothes and me to wear them. And he was literally my size.

He was

the same size as me. Do you ever like when you say sentences like that out loud? Yeah, do you ever have a moment of like, what? Excuse me?

Yeah, totally, because I was talking about it just a couple of days ago on the tonight show. And I was like, wait, what? And then I have this thing where I'm not like afraid to talk to anybody.

Like I can talk to anyone because I'm, I just always have chit chit chat in my, my heart.

And, um, and not that there aren't people who are like standoffish and I'm like, that person does not want to talk. Yes, leave them alone.
But I, but if, if need be, I can talk to anyone.

And I remember they were like, everyone was like really intimidated by Prince. He had such a presence.

Like he walked, he, he was like five foot four, but he was like, he had like this perfect posture and he would just sit and he was like so, he had so much mystique and everyone was so intimidated by him.

And then they were like, Zoe, you go talk to him. And I was like,

okay. So I ended up like hanging out with him like the whole day, night shoot.

And

yeah, he was so cool. But I was just like, you're talking to Prince.
You're talking to Prince.

I love it.

Oh, we don't have to do the tiebreaker because we have it.

I feel like this is a technicality. It says that I won by one point, but I think this is a technicality because the tattoo was, we went rogue.

No, it's totally fine because I knew you would win because you've seen it a lot more than me. Well, that's fair, but you were actually there.

I was. You know what? I didn't, there were like episodes I didn't watch later, you know, especially one, the years where I was pregnant and then had a baby and then pregnant and then had a baby.

The last four seasons was like pregnant, baby, pregnant, baby. And those seasons, I wasn't going back and watching all the time.
as much.

I would maybe like see my scenes, but I didn't always see like stuff with Winston or, you know, like if he had storylines without me, or stuff with Schmidt or Nick, if they had story or Cece, like if they all had storylines that I wasn't in, I probably didn't see them in because I wasn't shooting them.

Also, like amnesia. It's the, it's the motherhood amnesia.
Thank you so much for coming today. Thank you so much for having me.
This has been incredible. Philly, I love it.
I know. I cannot wait.

I mean, we should just drag you. Like, you should just come back to Phits.
Do you live in Philly? Yes. We live just outside.
I drove up. I drove up here today.

I love it so much, and I don't have any family left. Have you been there at all? I haven't been because like my dad grew up there, but like, um, where did he grow up? Do you know?

He grew up actually in Swarthmore. But my grandmother's near us.
Oh, it is. Yes.
So we live just outside the city. Oh, okay.
Swarthmore is one of the... like earlier exits.

Okay, well, you come back to Philly whenever you want. You can come visit us whenever you want.
I love that because I actually haven't been a long time and I really like it.

Does this mean you're a birds fan by proxy? Like you're, you, it's just. I don't know anything.
You can just be a birds fan.

Can you can assign me any, this is actually the great thing about me and sports. If you want an extra fan, I don't know if they need extra fans, but if you're more, we change the numbers.

Let's make me a you have Philly birds face. So that automatically, like we joke around, like Philly people, we say we bleed green.
Like it's just like how we were raised. Yeah.

So as long as you can say, go birds, you're in. Go birds.
That's it. Yeah.
And then if anyone ever tries to get you to enjoy anything related to the Cowboys, you tell them, fuck the Cowboys.

They're from Dallas, right? Correct. Okay.
You nailed that. Thank you.
You have all the information you need. Yes.
I have the information I need.

I also grew up in a place without a football team. Like LA most of the time, you know, didn't have a football team.
So I need one.

We will adopt you. This is perfect.

Thank you. Go birds.
Go birds.

We'll enjoy some tasty cakes. Butterscotch crumpets.
They're the best. They're the best.

My dad would have them like shipped out for special occasions yes we are um every year my dad breaks lent with a uh tasty cake e-claire pie and i give them to him because he gives up sweets for the entire oh you know

i because i grew up catholic i started giving up shopping for lent and it was actually like a really great it's really hard that sounds very challenging it's so challenging um

And then, but then sometimes I go way too hard after

make up for lost time.

Does this count?

well yeah but it's good this is good give up stuff sometimes okay well if you ever need a shipment of butter scotch crimpets i will send them to you

in a heartbeat you're the best thank you this is great and we'll get you to philly okay and go birds and go birds and go birds and that's a wrap on this episode of not gonna lie you can find even more clips for my longer conversation with zoe on my youtube channel on more shit monday i'll be back next thursday with our season one finale Don't worry, real ones.

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