Kylie & Donna Kelce on Girls Meeting Minnie Mouse, Best Disney Rides & Untold Jason-Travis Story | Ep. 43

Speaker 1 Not gonna lie, Wyatt surprised us all this morning when she packed her own Mickey ears. That's right, the Cinderella ears went in her own carry-on bag.
And that's on being responsible.

Speaker 1 Let's get this podcast started.

Speaker 1 Welcome to a very special, very magical episode of Not Gonna Lie, a wave original in proud partnership with Walt Disney World and Advent Health. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey.

Speaker 1 My favorite Disney character of all time is.

Speaker 1 I thought I was going to have it. I thought I was going to be able to just do it.
I thought it was going to come to my brain.

Speaker 1 I was going to be like, yeah, of course that's your favorite character, Kylie.

Speaker 1 I can't choose. I genuinely can't choose.
This is what gets me.

Speaker 1 My gut instinct is to say Tinkerbell.

Speaker 1 Is it?

Speaker 1 I love Nemo so much. That's such a, they're so, they're so far out.
Remy is perfect. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Okay, we're going to move on because I don't think I can come. I'm not coming to a conclusion.

Speaker 1 I'm not into roller coasters, but I do love Space Mountain. I know it's an indoor roller coaster.
Don't try and make it make sense. That's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 And the best Disney song ever is definitely I'm gonna do it again.

Speaker 1 I thought I was gonna come over the one spot.

Speaker 1 I'm listening to a lot of Let It Go in Our House right now. But who doesn't love a little

Speaker 1 A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes, you know?

Speaker 1 Oh, classic. I'll leave you with those two for now.
Oh, gosh. Well, real ones, I guess I'll stop bearing the lead.
As you can see,

Speaker 1 this is a very special episode, I'm not going to lie, because I'm taping from the most magical place on earth. That's right, Walt Disney World.
This is crazy. We love it here.

Speaker 1 Look at all the magic. It's happening.
Look at all the people walking and the castle. This is the best.
And if you think I'm excited,

Speaker 1 you should have seen our children.

Speaker 1 And by that, I mean, no one was prepared for the excitement that Wyatt brought at 6:30 this morning. 6:30.
That child usually sleeps till 8.

Speaker 1 We told our kids that we were coming to Disney World a month ago because

Speaker 1 I don't like to surprise them if it's something that's this exciting.

Speaker 1 It's so much excitement that I don't think their wee little bodies could handle it

Speaker 1 yep so we told them a month ago they have been talking about it ever since it has been the topic of conversation who we were gonna see what we should talk to people about when we get here the questions we have to ask we've been saving up

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's gonna be, it's gonna be a little nutty.

Speaker 1 And I'm actually excited to see every single time someone surprises me. Someone surprises me about how they act with the character or what ride they decide to be brave and get on.

Speaker 1 Last time, Wyatt took a moment with Ariel in her cove

Speaker 1 and turned back around as we were all getting ready to leave and said,

Speaker 1 you're my favorite princess.

Speaker 1 And I promptly had to put my sunglasses back down so that I could cry in peace.

Speaker 1 I'm tearing up just thinking about it. It's insane.
Honestly, bringing your children to Disney World, I've said it, I've said it before, and I'll say it till I'm blue in the face.

Speaker 1 It's for me. It is selfishly for the parents.
I know that sounds a little nutty, but I'm going to tell you why. When you see your kids' face light up at the magic that this place creates,

Speaker 1 it cannot be talked. And I stand by that.

Speaker 1 I guarantee I will cry at least three times while we're here because of a child reaction.

Speaker 1 It's that simple. All right, coming up on today's Disney spectacular, I'm going to get honest about trips to Disney World as a parent.

Speaker 1 This includes my personal tips for being in the parks with four tiny humans. Plus, I got some quality doom scrolling in on the plane ride down.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to talk about one of the most Philly coded gender reveals I've ever seen. Plus, there's a club in Disney that exclusively plays Disney channel music.
Guys, am I going clubbing?

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 After that, I'm going to be joined by one of our most requested guests ever.

Speaker 1 Ever.

Speaker 1 We were waiting for the perfect time to have her on. And being in Disney,

Speaker 1 Her homeland, I'll call it.

Speaker 1 This couldn't be more perfect. It's my mother-in-law, Donna Kelsey.
But first, let's get to our real one, Comment of the Week. Common says, we love a 62-minute episode with number 62.
Cassidy,

Speaker 1 you knew it.

Speaker 1 Queen Emma broke me down again. That's so crazy.
It's like I'm getting weaker.

Speaker 1 You got this, Kylie. Queen Emma...
Is trying to work you over.

Speaker 1 Right, Queen Emma?

Speaker 1 Yeah, this week she's right over there. So I get to give her the

Speaker 1 evil look from right here. I'm going to channel my villain.

Speaker 1 I'm going to channel my villain. I'm going to send it right over to her.

Speaker 1 There's actually a note here from the desk of Queen Emma.

Speaker 1 So weird

Speaker 1 that the desk is right there. Hey, girl, if we someday welcome an NFL tight end onto this program, no one in particular.

Speaker 1 Just wondering your thoughts on a Crisp 87.

Speaker 1 I don't know, sounds like a great idea to me. Peace, loving turtles.

Speaker 1 Queen Emma.

Speaker 1 Great. Uncle Trav's busy.
He's busy. And so when he's not busy, he's always welcome in the other chair here.
But until then, he's busy. Leave him alone.

Speaker 1 Next up, my first episode of FAFO with Nikki Marie just came out, and I'm glad you guys loved it as much as I loved making it.

Speaker 1 It was so much fun to get together with someone who shares an absolute love of sports, love of field hockey, and a fellow mother and get to sit down and chat about how sports has shaped her in her life, what it's meant to her to have field hockey grow up with her and now to watch her daughter start to play.

Speaker 1 And we then got to coach we tiny humans to play the sport that we love. So it was,

Speaker 1 I'm feeling inspired, a magical moment

Speaker 1 that I am so glad that you guys have gotten the chance to watch. And

Speaker 1 my next FAFO comes out December 2nd. Any guesses about where I'm going next? Tag us at NGL with Kylie.
Moving on, let's get to a very magical edition of Can I Be Honest?

Speaker 1 Brought to you by Advent Health. This week, let's get honest about Disney World as a parent.
That's right. It is for us.
as parents when our kids are as young as mine are.

Speaker 1 Wyatt remembers everything,

Speaker 1 but that's just her personality, who she is. Uh, Ellie doesn't remember much, which is exactly the phase I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 Where it's for me, it's for me when her little face lights up when she saw Tiana up in a window, she still talks about it, getting to wave to Tiana up in the window. It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 Uh, we have been to Disney World,

Speaker 1 I think we've been

Speaker 1 six.

Speaker 1 It had to be six because last year we came twice. This is our first time coming to Disney World with four tiny humans.

Speaker 1 So that's interesting.

Speaker 1 I truly think that each of them have

Speaker 1 a moment

Speaker 1 that will resonate with them in whatever age they are. So obviously, Wyatt will like something different this year.
She's six. Ellie at four is still still very into the princesses.

Speaker 1 Benny has talked about some of the other things. And Homegirl loves a snack.
So she's been talking about the Mickey Pretzel.

Speaker 1 My child.

Speaker 1 The most afraid of any of the characters, though, would probably be

Speaker 1 it might be Wyatt. Wyatt has always been someone who is a little wary of characters.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 She might be our ringer. I do think the last time that we saw, I want to say it was Donald Duck.

Speaker 1 We saw Donald over an Animal Kingdom. He was a far enough distance away that he could wave and Benny felt good about it.
So I think that that was probably Benny's most favorite interaction so far.

Speaker 1 Finn, her favorite interaction was with a churro last year while she was selling my belly. So

Speaker 1 if you know, you know.

Speaker 1 I'm unsure what their reactions are going to be this year,

Speaker 1 but but we might all find out together. Now, as I've said before, a lot of people look at me, see I have four kids, and assume I haven't figured out.

Speaker 1 I don't. I don't know how many times I got to tell you guys that.
The same goes for trips to Disney, but I have gathered a few hacks over the years. So here are my official Disney not-so-pro tips.

Speaker 1 Number one: every butt needs a seat.

Speaker 1 She's six. Wait, is six years old.
I have a stroller that collapses small enough to fit under the big stroller because, in the off chance that she wants to get her butt in a seat, we are not stopping.

Speaker 1 We are going and we will roll with it.

Speaker 1 It is my biggest piece of advice. Number two, stay on property at a Disney resort if you can.

Speaker 1 Their transportation

Speaker 1 is outstanding.

Speaker 1 I still remember coming when I was going into sixth grade. We stayed at Cornado Springs.
I still remember the breakfast was delicious. It's where I learned to love thunderstorms.

Speaker 1 If you know, you know, I also love the monorail. You know, who else loves the monorail? The girls.

Speaker 1 And any transportation that I don't have to beg them to get on is a win in my book.

Speaker 1 Number three, and this is a big one: if it works for your family, consider bringing your kids, grandparents, or extended family and friends, because extra hands and eyes are the best.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's right. Man-to-man coverage, everyone.
We love man-to-man coverage because it means that everyone gets their undivided attention. And even more importantly, you don't miss moments.

Speaker 1 Number four, shout out to the Rapunzel bathrooms. It's the spot.
I don't know why. It's always where we take our potty potty break.
I'm so serious.

Speaker 1 Number five, if you have a litter of children like I do, that's right. I said a litter, a whole gaggle of geese, if you will.

Speaker 1 Plan on going on a favorite ride for each of your tiny humans so everyone has something special to look forward to. Now,

Speaker 1 if you're anything like mine, sometimes it's not always going to be a ride. It might be an experience or an interaction with a princess or a character.

Speaker 1 Absolutely set something aside for everyone so that you can build up up to that moment. And then you can convince them to get where you're going.
We love motion. Keep it moving.

Speaker 1 And since we're talking rides, here are the top tiny human rides in our family. Little Mermaid Under the Sea Ride.

Speaker 1 We love to sit in the shells. We love it.

Speaker 1 Wyatt does make me cover her eyes at the eels because they're a little scary.

Speaker 1 Everybody knows that. Journey of Water inspired by Moana is,

Speaker 1 I would say, one of the most underrated experiences in the parks. They get to actually play with the water.

Speaker 1 Our girls talk about it every time they leave. And it is a little walking path so you can go at your own pace.
And there's plenty of different experiences within it so that you can

Speaker 1 have everybody engaged and interacting. It's such a good time.
We love that ride. Ride experience.

Speaker 1 Frozen Sing Long. The Arendale historians in the Frozen Singalong are hilarious.
We've seen the show multiple times with different historians and they are all outstanding.

Speaker 1 Highly recommend.

Speaker 1 And the last one is, it's for me. It's the Kilimanjaro Safaris at Animal Kingdom.
I love it so much. I love it.
Also, look for the hidden Mickey. It's in the middle of the flamingos.

Speaker 1 And lastly, tip number six, for all the real ones with or without tiny humans, treat yourself. Yep, that's right.

Speaker 1 I might recommend you

Speaker 1 maybe

Speaker 1 just put your kids in the stroller

Speaker 1 and hand the passes to your husband.

Speaker 1 and the grandparents

Speaker 1 and you sneak out

Speaker 1 send them to the parks, and you go to the spot, the Grand Floridian?

Speaker 1 I don't know, just an idea.

Speaker 1 It's just an idea. I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 1 Maybe. Maybe I'll see you at the spa.

Speaker 1 Guys,

Speaker 1 that would be so messed up. I'd do it, though.

Speaker 1 I would do it in a heartbeat. Who wants to hop in on a little couple's massage?

Speaker 1 Because my husband's going to be busy. He'll be in the parks.
Okay, got it. That's it for my official not-so-pro tips to Disney.
And that's it for Can I Be Honest? Brought to you by Advent Health.

Speaker 1 Next up, let's get right into Doom Scroll of the Week. First up, I just saw the most Philly gender reveal ever.
And this little girl's honesty, frankly, belongs in an episode of Not Gonna Lie.

Speaker 1 Queen Emma, the clip, please? Right into the cannoli and we'll find out who the baby is

Speaker 1 oh

Speaker 1 biff cannoli

Speaker 1 very big cannoli oh yeah

Speaker 1 was it it's a boy

Speaker 1 boy baby boy

Speaker 1 baby boy summon april you're gonna have a brother add a lot of brother

Speaker 1 i love so many things about this clip first of all Dressed to perfection. People love it.
Everyone's decked out in some Eagles gear. Second,

Speaker 1 some cannolis. Of course, we got some South Philly cannolis up in there for a little gender reveal.

Speaker 1 Naturally, my favorite reaction, though, is the little girl who immediately says that she doesn't want a brother and rolls her eyes.

Speaker 1 Those eyes shot to the sky so fast.

Speaker 1 She's a real one in the making. Okay, blunt, honest.
I love it.

Speaker 1 what i don't love

Speaker 1 gender reveals i'm sorry guys i know this is such a buzzkill i know that we have a lot of people out there who have done gender reveals

Speaker 1 it's not my thing

Speaker 1 i think

Speaker 1 partially because i don't like being surprised and also

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 i'm not creative enough to come up with one Let's be honest.

Speaker 1 That is not a type C mom thing to do, I would think. That is someone who is far more organized and put together than me.

Speaker 1 And also, full transparency. I do believe I have discussed,

Speaker 1 maybe not here on the pod, but definitely to people, about that. I do think there's always a certain sense

Speaker 1 of which way you want it to go. And so if it doesn't go that way, sometimes it's not great to have recorded your reaction.

Speaker 1 I think we've all seen the

Speaker 1 duds online.

Speaker 1 When the specifically, it's when there's always like two of that gender standing with the parents and then they like take a bite into a cupcake and it happens to be the same gender as the kids standing near them.

Speaker 1 Guys, we should just embrace it. All the hand-me-downs work.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 we're fine. So, no, I would not ever consider doing a gender reveal personally.

Speaker 1 Jason and I, for our first, I always said that I wanted to find out for our first and not find out for any of our consecutive pregnancies.

Speaker 1 So, we found out when Wyatt was 11 weeks old. I got a 10-week blood test, and it was available in the 11 at 11 weeks.
We got the results, and

Speaker 1 we checked together.

Speaker 1 When I got pregnant with Ellie, we again got that blood test of 10 weeks and we were not together when I got the results

Speaker 1 and I read them and then called my husband and he said, I thought we weren't finding out.

Speaker 1 And I said, yep, that was the plan, but I read it. Now I know.
And so you have to know too.

Speaker 1 We're in this together. And so then we had given up on the idea of not finding out.
I really enjoyed personally referring to her as her when I had her in my belly.

Speaker 1 I loved getting to plan in the very small amount of planning that I do,

Speaker 1 which is barely any.

Speaker 1 But I loved it. I loved getting to figure out their name ahead of time, get to refer to them as their name.
That was very fun. The only one that didn't have their name before they came out was Finn.

Speaker 1 And we called her pickle. She was fine.

Speaker 1 Speaking of pregnancy announcements, this TikToker won. She won.
Everyone can just give up now because this was it. Now, remember, friends, we don't make mistakes, only happy accidents.

Speaker 1 I don't even know where to start. For our audio listeners, the mom is dressed up as Bob Ross.

Speaker 1 She has Three boys standing in front of her, one of which is fighting for his life to keep a straight face and also holding a sonogram and the mom turns to the camera while she's painting on the canvas that is her other children's shirts and she says we don't make mistakes only happy accidents that is what i will call once i was once told that that is called a pleasant surprise

Speaker 1 Yeah, and that's that. That mom nailed that.
I think that if I think humor being involved in a pregnancy announcement, top notch, but this mom, you nailed it.

Speaker 1 And also your oldest son nailed it because he tried so hard to keep a straight face and he did a darn good job.

Speaker 1 Next scroll, Elizabeth Banks just spoke at the ESPNW Summit and I love her take on women supporting women. The clip please, Queen Emma.

Speaker 3 Made a show last year, The Better Sister, on Amazon. It was all women and running the show.
And guess what? We got home for dinner every night.

Speaker 3 And you just, it's just like that's the thoughtfulness behind every decision. Somebody comes in and goes, my kid, I got to go see my kid in the play.

Speaker 3 And it's like, we're going to figure that out for you, you know?

Speaker 3 And I think people feel comfortable coming to women and saying, I need something and I'll do my job better if you help me figure it out.

Speaker 1 I love this clip so much. I love that she talks about how we can have work-life balance.
I love the fact that she has an emphasis on that women, as women, that we can achieve that.

Speaker 1 I love that there is the idea that if there is something, attention that your family needs, and I'm not saying needs as in like, it's an emergency or something like that.

Speaker 1 I mean needs as in like, there's something that you need to be there for your kid. And that includes recitals, plays,

Speaker 1 potentially like a classroom party that all of the other parents are going to be at.

Speaker 1 That's okay to accommodate that in your schedule. And it's okay to mark that as important because when you end up missing those things, I truly think that number one, your kids notice.

Speaker 1 I think we've all felt that.

Speaker 1 My daughter just started kindergarten and I've already had a moment of, well, you weren't there.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I'm going to do my darndest to not miss another. On NGL, we adopt this same thinking that Elizabeth Banks is talking about.

Speaker 1 We have quite a few moms that work on the show, all of our queens that we've collected.

Speaker 1 We value their time and we value their energy.

Speaker 1 And we know that their kids also deserve their time and attention and that we don't just have to run ourselves into the ground to do something and create something that's productive and meaningful.

Speaker 1 So we will continue to do this. We get it and we love the messaging here from Elizabeth Banks.

Speaker 1 Last on Doom Scroll, apparently there's a club on Disney property that exclusively plays throwback Disney channel music. And I'm so in on this clip.

Speaker 1 Yes, a million times. Yes.
Yes, yes, yes. And then some more.
Yes. Oh my gosh, yes.

Speaker 1 The part of this clip that hits the hardest,

Speaker 1 the Lazy Maguire.

Speaker 1 Everyone wants to sing that song right i'm i just everyone wants to sing this is what dreams are made of at the top of their lungs with the lights going and the bass hitting and a room full of people doing it too

Speaker 1 i'm going clubbing i think i'm going clubbing i'm a dragon queen emma we're going clubbing that does it for doom scroll coming up she's the real disney queen known as d to my girls it's my mother-in-law donna kelsey right after this message from me about our partner, Advent Health.

Speaker 1 Imagine this, chat. You finally made it to Disney World.
The kids are hyped. You've got your Mickey ears on, and you're ready for a magical time.
And then

Speaker 1 someone gets an earache. Or you realize you left your meds back at home next to the coffee maker.
Always a classic.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm genuinely glad Walt Disney World Resort has an official healthcare provider in Advent Health. They go way beyond first aid stations.
They have the Advent Health World of Wellness.

Speaker 1 It's basically like like having a health safety net while you're on vacation. You can hop on the Advent Health app and do a telehealth visit.

Speaker 1 If you need a prescription, they'll deliver it straight to your resort. Their urgent care will actually come pick you up.

Speaker 1 And for anything more serious, there is a first-of-its-kind emergency room located near Disney property at Flamingo Crossings. How reassuring is that?

Speaker 1 So when you're planning your next Disney trip, add Advent Health to your checklist because keeping your crew healthy means you can focus on the fun.

Speaker 1 You can check them out at adventheworldofwellness.com.

Speaker 1 Our guest was one of the 2024 Glamour Women of the Year and is always a woman of the year to me and our whole family. You may have seen her on the Hallmark channel.
That's my child screaming.

Speaker 1 And her child is the one probably causing it. Oh, yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 You may have seen her on the Hallmark channel wearing her famous split Eagles Chiefs jersey or gifting her sons chocolate chip cookies ahead of the Super Bowl. She's our favorite Disney expert.

Speaker 1 My girl is Dee Dee, my mother-in-law, and now she's officially not gonna lie. Donna Kelsey, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 I'm excited to be on the show. I can't stand it.
This is great. And I mean, here of all places, I know.

Speaker 1 Can't get any better. I figured if we were going to do the Donna Kelsey episode that everyone's been asking for.

Speaker 2 Perfect. Perfect place to be.
You know, every time you walk in the gate, it's just like you feel like you believe in magic all over again.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes, you do.
That's a great feeling.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 how does it feel to be one of our most requested guests? Oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 Oh, they must know I have a lot of dirt on the boys.

Speaker 1 I think they know I'm going to ask the questions to get there. There you go.
Uh-huh. Perfect.
Now, you know all the ins and outs of Disney, so we're going to get into that. But first, the real ones.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 For some reason, always want to hear more about our family. So we'll start there.
I don't know if I've talked about the first time that I met you on the podcast yet.

Speaker 1 I've talked about the first time I met Travis. It was the Pro Bowl trip to Hawaii.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we were in Hawaii.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Do you remember the first time that we met? Yes. I believe it was an Eagles game.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I figured that you would remember only because leading up to that, the joke was that nobody believed that Jason actually had a girlfriend

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 he's not a Rico Suave, everyone.

Speaker 1 He wasn't bringing around a bunch of girls.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, very few, none in high school.

Speaker 2 And I never knew of anyone that he dated in college. I'm sure there were a couple.
Sure. But he just never brought anybody home.
I guess he was just waiting for you, Kylie.

Speaker 1 Sure, that's what it was.

Speaker 2 He was waiting for the perfect one.

Speaker 1 That's right. It had nothing to do with the fact that he has no game whatsoever.
Well, you know. Now, what do you remember from our first meeting?

Speaker 2 Oh, man, you know, how tall you were. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You had a sophisticated air about you.

Speaker 1 That's very kind.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know. And it was, I was just really impressed with, you know, how you carried yourself and how articulate you were.
And I just was thrilled to death.

Speaker 1 I was very excited to be with you and be eye to eye. Yeah.
That is always like as tall women, I think you always recognize when someone you walk up to and you're speaking like straight to their face.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 It's something that I don't realize until it happens. Like until I'm talking to a tall woman, I don't realize that I'm looking down towards everybody else.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 For anyone who doesn't know this, you are known as Dee Dee to our girls. Yes.

Speaker 1 How did we get the name Dee Dee?

Speaker 2 Dee Dee came about

Speaker 2 very selfishly because most babies say the D word first.

Speaker 2 And so I thought, okay, there is already a Nana and there's probably going to

Speaker 2 be some other names and things like that. So I just did my initial of my name twice.
That's all.

Speaker 1 I love it. And also, I love the idea that there was a chance that you beat Jason to the punch.
Like, if it was a D D instead of a dad dad,

Speaker 1 we could have held that over him forever.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but the A vowel is a very

Speaker 1 jury still out on Finn.

Speaker 1 We still have a chance. Now, you were just in town visiting.
What's the funniest thing that one of the girls has said or asked you ever?

Speaker 2 Just recently, Bennett came up to me and she says, now, what's your name again?

Speaker 1 Yeah, she'll humble you. That one,

Speaker 1 that one's a little nuts. Uh-huh.
I think I know the answer to this question, but of our four girls, who reminds you the most of Jason?

Speaker 2 Oh, boy, it's got to be Wyatt. Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 There was, I'm not sure that I've told the story on the podcast before, but I have said before that there was a time when Wyatt, I think she was around two,

Speaker 1 and I remember her having a tough moment, we'll call it.

Speaker 1 And you were staring at her in like a very just like observant way. And I looked at you and I said,

Speaker 1 Is it giving you PTSD?

Speaker 1 And you said, a little bit. A A little bit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who reminds you the most of like a Travis personality?

Speaker 2 Oh, dear. Well, it's usually the second or the third child because they're the ones that are fearless.

Speaker 2 And, you know,

Speaker 2 you're learning with the first child. So I would have to say that Ellie probably is the one that...
throws yourself off the couch without abandon.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 yeah, so she's, she has, she has no fear.

Speaker 1 I would agree with that. Yeah.
Donna, as you know, I love talking about motherhood on this podcast. And since I'm married to your son, I have a lot of questions for you.

Speaker 1 I, of course, have four girls and you raised two boys. Oh, yeah.
And witnessing a household of all girls now and being close to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What would you say are the biggest differences between raising boys and girls?

Speaker 2 The thing that just

Speaker 2 amazes me is how they will sit down and do a craft for a certain period of time. That wasn't my experience.

Speaker 2 It was constantly running around, jumping off of things, getting into trouble, you know, running out the door, starting the car up, you know, when they were three. So

Speaker 2 they got into a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 Now, is there one that you would say is tougher or just different?

Speaker 2 You know, I think Jason, because he was the oldest and, you know, always the elder child in the family, not all the time, but especially with Jason, he would tend to listen and follow the roles.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Travis isn't a role follower. No.
No, he runs to the tune of his own drum.

Speaker 1 We had a conversation after I had Bennett where you had mentioned, like, three girls still sounds a little bit nicer than two boys for that age. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 a bird.

Speaker 2 It must be one of my ancestors.

Speaker 1 Now.

Speaker 1 Much like you're saying, doing a craft, like we often start our day with like a nice

Speaker 1 drawing, coloring session. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I have said that in that moment, like a house of boys would never, they would never.

Speaker 2 No, no, they're breaking the crayons. It's like I saw one time two different fields.
There was a field full of boys playing soccer and a field full of girls doing, playing soccer.

Speaker 2 The girls, you ask them to get in a circle and kick the ball between each other.

Speaker 2 With the boys, one's, you know, playing basketball with the soccer ball they are you know hitting each other they're wrestling on the floor uh they're doing everything but what they're told to do so yeah completely different it might be tougher for us later yeah sure could be could be yeah for sure um Now, I also couldn't have you on and not ask about the famous story of Jason with the knives in the front yard.

Speaker 2 Oh, geez. Yeah, I had just picked him up from daycare and we had gotten home and I decided I was going to go upstairs and change because I had my work outfit on.
So I'm upstairs.

Speaker 2 I get the shorts on and I hear from across the street this

Speaker 2 person calling, oh my God, he's got a knife. And I knew who it was immediately.
Did you really? Yes, I knew it was Jason. He was out for, he was the only one that was tall enough they could reach him.

Speaker 2 And I literally had him up high up in a cabinet because I had to keep everything sharp away from both of them. But yeah, I ran out there.
I only had my shorts on and a bra. I literally ran out.

Speaker 2 And, you know, and then everybody was clapping on the street. They were so excited about that picture.
So it was really kind of funny. But

Speaker 2 he, you know, Jason was literally throwing it up in the in the air and it would come down and hit the ground and like display the grass.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And Travis is just looking at it. I'm like, oh my God, that could have went right through his head.
But yeah, it's, that was a scary time. That was a scary one.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also, I'm always brought back to like little Jason when he head-butted grandma.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. He did that with my mother.
Yeah. Yeah.
He just, he thought that was just great fun because Ed and he used to do it all the time.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 2 Just as like a little game. And

Speaker 2 he wasn't even walking. wasn't even walking.
They would just headbutt each other. And sure enough, like a little love

Speaker 2 pretty much knocked my grandmother out. I mean, their grandmother out.

Speaker 2 And the other time, as Jason was like two months old, and I had just dried my hair, and he picked up the hair dryer and hit me over the head, and I saw stars on that one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And he wasn't doing it to be mean or anything. He just thought it was fun.
He's thought it was funny. You know, what tree you or a two-year-old can pick up a hair dryer and

Speaker 1 swing it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he had muscles back then.

Speaker 1 No, as the mother of that man's four children, how can I prevent my kids from repeating their dad's mistake?

Speaker 2 Oh, geez. You know, I think every child is their own, and they come up with their own thoughts.

Speaker 2 So something that they're going to come up with is going to be completely different than what my children did because they're watching different shows. Sure.

Speaker 2 They're looking at cartoons and I'm sure that Jason had seen that on some cartoon.

Speaker 1 We both like to mimic.

Speaker 1 Now, you've told so many great stories about Jason and Travis. Is there one that you haven't told? And Maybe you've been saving for the perfect moment and maybe this is that moment?

Speaker 2 I don't

Speaker 1 you've aired it out. You've explained it.
There you go.

Speaker 2 You know, there's one in particular that I do remember. I used to have to keep the keys up high, just like I had to keep the knives up high.

Speaker 2 And Travis, for some reason, was opening up the drawers and he was climbing up them. He was three, climbing up the

Speaker 2 cupboards. to get to the keys.
And for some reason, I was in the bathroom or whatever. I mean, you know, you got to go.
And I'm all by myself.

Speaker 2 I go out the back door and there's a two of them sitting in the car. Now, mind you, the car was locked.
So Travis

Speaker 2 would watch us like a hawk. He knew exactly what we were doing.
He knew how to unlock the car door,

Speaker 2 get into it, and then slam it shut. And I don't know how he did it, but somehow, and thank goodness, it was a,

Speaker 2 it was not an automatic. Sure.
Okay. And he put the keys in the card.
He knew exactly what to do and turned it on and it jumped and went right through the garage door.

Speaker 2 And Jason, thank goodness, was sitting next to him and he was just like, he was so excited. But he could have been standing in front of it.

Speaker 2 It could have been a really bad moment.

Speaker 1 I will tell you, after watching the dynamic between our own kids now, I wouldn't be surprised if Jason wasn't following him to say, nope, now you nope, put the, nope, put the, nope, put the key in the hole.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And now you're going to, now you're going to want to turn it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So he actually got it started. Yeah, he did at three.

Speaker 2 So from then on, I always had to have my keys on my person. I could not hide them.
That's terrible. They could see where I left them.
So yeah.

Speaker 2 That was a little scary.

Speaker 1 There's some saving receipts.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's some other ones with the car, but I can't go into it. The trunk.

Speaker 1 Yeah. When it was going to be sold the next day? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Pull that one on.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Out of respect for the individuals involved. Yeah.
We'll keep that one between us. Okay.
Now, you've done an amazing job as a mom. I know how proud you are of Jason and Travis, and they are of you.

Speaker 1 Is there a piece of motherhood advice that you lived by?

Speaker 2 Oh, dear.

Speaker 2 Every once in a while, let them fight

Speaker 1 because. That's great advice.
I love this.

Speaker 2 Because that's how you learn to negotiate, to do different things. But I mean, if it looks like it's getting kind of,

Speaker 2 you know, a little too terrible and it's too, you know, it looks like somebody's going to get hurt. But usually somebody cries and it stops.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 2 So, you know,

Speaker 2 unfortunately, the younger one definitely has to figure it out. And they really do come up with good negotiation skills.

Speaker 1 And manipulation and bargaining.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So.

Speaker 1 Now, as his mom, what have you enjoyed the most about watching Jason as a dad?

Speaker 2 Oh, I'm just totally amazed that he can be as gentle as he can,

Speaker 2 but then he still throws them up in the air on the couch. But that is a softer side of him that I don't think I've ever seen before.
And he definitely loves his girls. There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 Yep. They've got him.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 You're also our first guest who has grandchildren, and we do have a lot of real ones with grandkids. So I'd love to know what grandparenting advice you would give as a first-timer.

Speaker 2 Let them do whatever they want.

Speaker 1 It's terrible.

Speaker 2 No, within reason, there are things that I ask you: can I do this? Can I do that? Very much so. But

Speaker 2 I think you're there to show them as much love as you possibly can. And I'm not the one that's going to be the downer.
So I try not to be. But every once in a while, you have to say, okay,

Speaker 1 that's enough.

Speaker 2 But yeah.

Speaker 1 I do think that you have an amazing balance of coming in.

Speaker 1 They know that you'll bring them sweet treats because that's the grandparents' duty. Everybody knows that.

Speaker 1 That you have free reign on sweet treats. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they know that you will sit there and give them your undivided attention and read them books. And so because of that, whenever there is mention of Dee Dee, they're like, where is she?

Speaker 1 When she gets here, is she here yet? It's a very, there's excitement with it that like is unmatched and very obvious that they truly value the time that they get to spend with you.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 I value it also.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 I do have to ask,

Speaker 1 I promise that Donna's Disney Guide is coming up next, but real quick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know you signed an NDA. Yes, I did.
But I want to know about this Traders situation.

Speaker 2 Okay. Well, I can tell you.

Speaker 1 Tell me when it comes out, Donna.

Speaker 2 I think sometime in January. Okay.

Speaker 2 The Traders Show does come out. it's season four yes celebrity season four i had a blast

Speaker 1 where it was oh yeah it's in scotland yeah and how was that

Speaker 2 Just wonderful. There was nothing better than walking through the highlands at night,

Speaker 2 you know, in the complete dark.

Speaker 2 It was crazy. It just, there are so many beautiful things about the highlands.
It's just the mountains and the water and

Speaker 2 everything.

Speaker 2 It's very serene and the air was the cleanest I think I've ever, you know, breathed in in my life. I had no trouble climbing up three flights of stairs.
I'm like, why?

Speaker 1 This is reminding me.

Speaker 1 I would like the real ones to know that one of the things that I think is one of your secret superpowers is travel.

Speaker 1 And I don't even know how secret it is. Yeah.
Because I yell it from the rooftops. Your way of travel is so impressive.
Your thirst for

Speaker 1 knowledge and the way that you travel the world is one of the most

Speaker 1 intriguing and exciting things. I love when you travel because I get to vicariously live through your travel experiences.

Speaker 1 But that actually brings us to the fact that we are in one of our favorite places to travel and also one of yours.

Speaker 1 It's not that far for you to travel now. No.
Because you are a Florida resident. I am.
But

Speaker 1 that brings us to Donna's Disney Guide. All right.
Now, the main event. We promised the real ones, your insider guide to Disney.
All right. I'm going to let you take it away.

Speaker 1 Where do people absolutely need to go when they come to Disney World? Your must-stops.

Speaker 2 It definitely depends on how old your kids are or where you are in your life. But if it's adults, definitely, you know, you got to go to Epcot.

Speaker 2 If it's children, you definitely have to come to Magic Kingdom and Hollywood Studios.

Speaker 2 There's just so many wonderful places to go, wonderful things to eat. For any age, it's just a magical place.
It really is.

Speaker 1 What's your favorite thing to eat in the park?

Speaker 2 Oh, geez. I think caramel apples.
I just love caramel apples, for sure.

Speaker 1 That's my mother-in-law. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 Now, do you have a favorite ride personally? Yes.

Speaker 2 Favorite all time was the one that just came out, well, a couple years ago was Guardians of the Galaxy. That is, I could ride that over and over and over again.
I love that ride.

Speaker 1 Rumor has it that I will be riding that ride this week.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 I'm a little nervous about it. No, don't be.
You will love it. I know.
You've given it raised views. I just

Speaker 2 you're watching the world go by as you're going around it, so it's fun.

Speaker 1 Now, do you personally have a favorite park?

Speaker 2 I would think that Epcot probably is my favorite just because I love Soren. I love

Speaker 2 you love travel. Yeah, I do.
I love to see all the different, you know, countries and go around the park and see all the different types of food. It's just, you can't beat it.

Speaker 1 And you've, you've never lost the love of Disney?

Speaker 2 I try to get as many times as I can. Obviously, you know, growing families, you can't go as many times as you really want to go.
But

Speaker 2 it was, I just, it's just a special place. It just feels like home to me.

Speaker 2 And it's just this feeling like you're just free of all the strife and things that are happening in your life that are weighing you down.

Speaker 1 I also really appreciate that you have made this your home and that we get to come and not only visit Dee Dee, but get caramel apples together.

Speaker 2 For sure, that's good. It's always the best.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much for coming on, not going to lie. No problem.
It has been incredible having you. And specifically, in the happiest place on earth.
It doesn't get any better. It's magic.
I know.

Speaker 1 It's the Disney magic.

Speaker 2 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Now, before we wrap this episode, I have one more surprise.

Speaker 1 We need tiny humans.

Speaker 2 Oh, of course.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 I just want to let you know that I do buy your merchandise. This is one of the things that I purchased.

Speaker 1 Guys, you should go get yourself a hat. You can match Donna's.
There you go. Look at it.
Come on. Perfect.
Look how beautiful she looks while we're waiting on children.

Speaker 1 I do want to circle back just for a second about motherhood for you. Yeah.
And obviously I said, like, a lot of people are fans of your work.

Speaker 1 In other words, really appreciate the two men that you have helped raise.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 a lot of people have a lot of feelings about the fact that they are both so what I think most people would refer to as emotionally intelligent. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is there something that you and Ed were doing that like encouraged that, or is that just like who they are at their core?

Speaker 2 I think both Ed and I are very emotional at times, and we do cry at movies and what have you,

Speaker 2 but I think that's just in their DNA. You know, it's something that they have in their personality.
I don't think you can teach that or anything, but

Speaker 2 they just feel things very deeply. They do.

Speaker 1 And I just want to emphasize that, and I hope you already know this, I'm a big fan of your work. Big fan.
There you go. Because

Speaker 1 he's great, and I love him. And I appreciate that you raised him.
Very good. Okay,

Speaker 1 we have one more surprise. So we're going to get Chica's in here.
Can you come see me? Come on, guys. Hi.
Hey.

Speaker 2 How are you doing? Hello.

Speaker 1 Is Benny coming? Hi, Lyon. Oh, here comes the Benny.
Yep, she's coming. She changed her mind.
All right. Hello.
Here you go. Hello.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Hi, I'm going to move this.

Speaker 1 Can I move this? Okay, no.

Speaker 2 Here you go. Come on in.

Speaker 1 We have a surprise.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was mean. Okay, Finny, you can't grab her here.
Okay.

Speaker 1 We do have a surprise for the tiny humans.

Speaker 1 It's a very exciting surprise.

Speaker 1 And I think it's on its way.

Speaker 1 It's on its way in a minute. Finny, do you want to tell everyone something? Let's see.

Speaker 1 There we go. Oh, Wyatt, anything to tell the listeners? Hi.
Where are we right now?

Speaker 2 I like your bag

Speaker 1 in Disney World. Is it amazing? Do you love it? You like the cash? Come on, hop up on the chair with me.
Hi, and go scoot your honeybag. Do you want to show someone your backyard?

Speaker 1 I want to look at the parade, and I want to see Jasmine.

Speaker 2 Okay, awesome.

Speaker 1 What princess do you want to see?

Speaker 1 Jasmine. Were you guys eating something? Maybe we got a treat.

Speaker 1 We got a treat.

Speaker 1 I think the surprise is here, maybe.

Speaker 1 That's actually

Speaker 1 your favorite color high.

Speaker 1 Hello, Minnie. She drew you harder.

Speaker 1 What do you say, Minnie?

Speaker 1 Oh, now she's silent.

Speaker 1 She went silent.

Speaker 1 She was talking all about you.

Speaker 2 You're a tall girl, too.

Speaker 2 Benny, who is it?

Speaker 3 Do you want Blower a kiss?

Speaker 2 Say hi. You can wave if you don't want to talk.
Yeah, give her Blower a kiss.

Speaker 1 Aww, that's so sweet. Benny, how's Mickey doing? Is he good? He's good.
Oh, you love him?

Speaker 1 I have one of those. Yeah.
Love him.

Speaker 1 Are we so excited to meet Minnie? Should we take a picture? Go ahead. Why?

Speaker 2 Here you go. We'll come with you.

Speaker 2 There you go.

Speaker 1 Oh, perfect. Okay.

Speaker 1 Girlies, get together. Here you go.

Speaker 1 Do you love her eyelashes? Do you want to know she's wearing mascara?

Speaker 1 My little makeup baby. Oh, she loves makeup, Minnie.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, Minnie said yes to mascara. Do you think she wears lipstick? Do you wear lipstick to get fancy, Minnie? Look at her putting lipstick on.

Speaker 1 She's studying her face.

Speaker 1 Do you want to give Minnie a hug? Go ahead.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's so nice. Thank you so much, Minnie.
It was so good to see you. Aww.

Speaker 1 Say bye, Minnie.

Speaker 1 Oh, thank you, Minnie. Okay, that's a wrap on a very magical episode of Not Gonna Lie from Disney World.

Speaker 1 You can find even more of our clips from Ryan Longer Conversation with Donna on my YouTube channel on Monday. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode.

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