Scott Van Pelt Live From Augusta, Rory Wins An Incredible Masters, NBA Playoffs Set, Who's Back And Monday Reading

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Rory finally does it. Completes the career grand slam.
We have SVP live from Augusta, as is tradition. A tradition unlike any other.
Recapping the Masters. Incredible weekend of sports.
We're going to talk some NBA playoff seating finally set. We are going to do who's back of the week.
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Today is Monday, April 14th, and Rory McIlroy has done it.

He has completed the career grand slam.

He is your master's champion for 2025.

And holy shit, that was an incredible Sunday of golf.

Thank you. Rear Grand Slam.
He is your Masters champion for 2025. And holy shit, that was an incredible Sunday of golf.
I love that we got free golf. Yeah.
That was the perfect cap off to a great Masters. I wish we had more free golf.
I wish the playoff went on. Credit to us for accurately picking what was going to happen at the end of this Masters.
Or saying it was our wish. Almost exactly spot on with Whitney.
I think the exact clip was if Rory has a five-foot putt to miss to go to a playoff, will you be rooting against him? And I said, yes, absolutely. And I was.
Listen, sometimes as a hater, you've got to tip your cap and be like, we got bested today.

The haters got bested. We'll come back stronger than ever, though.
That's the thing about the haters. The haters are remarkably resilient.
Yeah, and I have no regrets, too, because golf is obviously an interesting sport to root for because it's not like you're rooting for your team. There's a bunch of guys.
You have guys. You don't have guys.
I would rather have a set of guys that I root for and a set of guys I hate than be like I'm just rooting for whoever wins and then when they win I say what a great story Rory deserved it I w I was I was hoping that Justin Rose is going to win in that playoff but Rory exercised every single demon with that insanely schizophrenic final 18 because he he went, I think he had six birdies, three bogeys, and two double bogeys. He choked multiple times, including on 18.
And then he comes back and birdies 18 and wins the Masters. So I don't think I've ever seen anyone more relieved, happy to win a golf tournament than Rory McIlroy when he won the Masters.
So I think Rory might be his own biggest hater. That's the thing.
That's why I'm kind of okay with how it turned out. Rory loves to choke himself out.
Yeah. And it's like good Rory and bad Rory out there on the course.
And it's always like good Rory trying to fend off bad Rory for just long enough to make it work. Usually, I feel like bad Rory is like 6-3 over good Rory.
Yeah. And we saw bad Rory take it to a playoff against good Rory.
Even to start, he went double bogey to start. Yeah, bad Rory, he teed off on one.
Yeah. And good Rory was like, fuck you.
I'm not going to let you take over my day. Played pretty well.
Then the **** nine happens. Second nine.
Oh, fuck. Sorry.
Can we bleep that bleep that out bleep that out uh the second nine happens and the patrons were all going up and down alongside rory because i feel like most of them were cheering him on yeah and but then the second you see some cracks in the armor you get that little it there's like almost excitement to see how is rory going to choke this one out again yeah and then on 16 he hit it in the water on maybe the easiest shot ever and this this my friends is why you should never lay up because rory tried to play it safe he laid up they need a little chip shot into the water if he hit that second shot with some balls and said fuck it i'm going to try to win this thing then his second goes in the water. And then he takes the drop and he avoids the double bogey.

Yeah.

So he had that happen.

He was probably pumped that Augusta doesn't allow cell phones and cameras out there.

So nobody had any bad footage of it.

Didn't have to confiscate.

And then on 18, going into the bunker and when he misses that putt, there was like a

groundswell of excitement in the crowd, which is like, we're witnessing history here.

We're witnessing, like nobody had thought that Rory could choke things away worse than he has in the past this would be an all-timer what was that a three-footer no five five or six it looked it looked three on tv um so then i feel like people started getting excited i started getting excited to see another classic rory choke job but then i saw he's playing against justin rose in the playoffs and if it was a guy that I felt strongly about one way or the other, I think I would have liked to see that person beat Rory. But with Justin Rose, it's like, uh.
Oh, we were, Hank and I were watching. We were still, we were still rooting against Rory.
The Justin Rose here, you should feel bad for Justin Rose. That's his third, second place at the Masters.
The second time he's lost in a playoff. He lost to Sergio in the playoff at the Masters.
And also, Justin Rose had 10 birdies today. 10 birdies in his final round, and he lost.
And he missed. He just missed that short putt on 17.
I know. There were so many incredible shots, both good and bad.
It was just the best. It was the best.
And I like I. So I was thinking about it because I was really bummed out when Rory had completed the 10th.
And I think he was four shots up. And I was like, this is going to suck.
There's going to be no drama. He's going to go on and win it.
He didn't have to be pushed to that limit because like Bryson just had a horrendous day. Sorry, Bryson D.
Shambogi. Yeah.
as Skip Bayless calls him had had a horrendous day was like a total non-factor after the like the fourth hole and I was bummed because I wanted if Rory was gonna win the career Grand Slam I wanted to see him push to the brink so and he almost went in the water at 11 yeah that's when I was like yeah the ball that was that was when I thought the first day it's over yeah he got it four shot lead avoided the water but the fact that rory was pushed to the brink made me even as a hater i had to tip my cap and be like that was incredible uh like the the career achievement he waited 11 years to win his next major the last one was in 2014 he was you know he had the fourshot lead in 2011. And I'm just happy that he got pushed and he choked and he unchoked and he choked.
And then the shot of a lifetime on 15 was an insane shot. So I can lay my sword down and be like, you know what, Rory, you deserve that, even though you choked like four times.
You deserve that because you bounce back after every single one. He could have quit at any point.
He beat all the haters, including us. He beat everybody he was competing against, and he beat himself, but in a good way.
He beat the bad version of himself, so he truly conquered the world today. And for the Rory fans, by the way, when we have Scott Van Pelt on, which we do every Masters live from Augusta, he will wax poetically about Rory, so you'll get

all that. Jim Nance almost

laid the biggest jinx of all time,

waxing poetic on Rory, going down the

18th fairway, talking about how

he grew up. By the way, shout out Rory's dad.

I don't know if Rory's dad had a future bet on him

to win the Masters like he did

the Open Championship. I think he won

like $400,000 on that the first time

Rory won. Great dad.
But yeah,

Jim Nance was just, he was laying it on.

He unloaded the clip. Thick with like

Thank you. the open championship.
Yeah. I think he won like $400,000 on that.
Yeah. Yeah.
First time we were one great dad. But yeah, Jim dance was just, he was laying it on.
He unloaded the clip thick with like seven C's and they had the, the graphic. If he, if he didn't win that eight, that playoff, the graphic of him lining up his putt on the 18th, it says going for career grand slam.
Yeah. Would have lived in infamy.
Yeah, for sure. Also.
Yeah. Shout out, shout out to skip Bayless for dropping bryson bryson de chambogie on us yeah on a sunday um that's one of the ones hand up we missed that one but that's why skip is the man that's why he gets paid the big bucks i was getting accused of jinxing because i was like rory's got this it was right after the ball didn't go in the water i was like it's just his day and then i realized like you have to have those moments where you're like listen you, you could be a narcissist and think that you can actually affect these games, which you can't, and that you jinx it.
And then you have to realize there's a higher power at play, and his name is Skip Bayless. Because right before I think Rory went into the water officially, he tweeted, congratulations, Rory, for winning the 2025 Masters and completing the career Grand Slam.
Extraordinary performance was I ever wrong about today in Bryson DeChamboge. Yeah, that was he tweeted that on the 12th hole.
I think I tweeted out congrats to Rory on winning the Masters at like 10 a.m. this morning.
Yeah, I just I was so pumped up to see a potential Rory choke job. And he did.
That's why I'm like not as as if he had just waltzed into a four stroke victory, I would have been a real salty bitch right now. He really did like, he gave us all the chokes and then he still won.
Yeah. So I'm like, you know what? Fair play.
Like shake hands. Good job.
You gave me the moments I needed. I needed those moments where it was like, holy shit shit this is actually happening again and then he eventually gets the the grand slam i'm i am happy for him that he gets the monkey off his back in that it was a win-win yeah truly for everybody involved also i don't know if you saw this but last night uh my man skip put this out rory mccleroy is the lebron james of golf a supremely gifted nice guy killer instinct.
Bryson DeChambeau is the Jake Paul of golf. Oh.
Who isn't afraid to do it his way. Skip Bayless just definitely walks around all day looking at things.
I mean, like, you know what that reminds me of? LeBron James. LeBron James.
Who I hate, by the way. I hate Paul, too.
I think Skip is in love with LeBron James.

He just sees him everywhere.

If LeBron would just mention him once.

Once would be great.

One time.

It did feel as a hater.

Yeah, Hank, you're actually the... I think if we ranked our hater-ness of Rory here, you're number one.

But you defended him when he stole the young man's cell phone.

I made one side comment.

Remember, that was because he thinks he takes side of the players he's no that was just one he hates all my throat about but uh i was rooting against him it felt very similar to 2016 lebron similar where it's like you you root so hard against them and they accomplish you know history and it's basically it's you're never going to be able to get your level of hate up again. No, he won.
Because if LeBron had lost that Warrior Series and his finals record, you could always run that narrative. If Rory chokes this, the narrative never goes away.
Now, it's like if you're hating, it's a much harder hate. Yeah, we had to retire.
And that's what I'm sad about. Yeah, we had to retire because Rory, no matter what, he is now the sixth all-time to have the career grand slam the only the second next to tiger woods to do it in the last 50 years so like in the modern era he's he's he and i actually think i'll say this i think rory might go on a hot streak yeah because like that was that did feel like the monkey off your back steve young moment where the way that went down went down and the chokes and the unchokes and the big shots and the shot of a lifetime, Rory might just rip off.
He might get to 10 majors. I'll call it right now.
He's got nothing to lose. When Tiger came back and won at Augusta, was it 2019? Yeah.
That felt like he left it all out there. We all kind of knew.
It's incredible that this is happening, but let's not expect Tiger to go on one of his runs. With Rory, he's been so close so recently.
Yeah, he's been incredible. He rode to Dubai.
Never heard of him? That was more important. That's what got the monkey off his back.
What did you guys make of it came out afterwards that Rory refused to say a word to Bryson during the round? I kind of love that. Bryson said he wouldn't talk to me at all yeah i love that because bryson probably his brain was was was malfunctioning being like but my pr team told me that if i do the youtube guys will talk to me well he he needs the comment section to get his next jokes yeah bryson was i mean i i still i i bet on him to start the day just because i was like i want to bet on something something, and I had no other bets going.
So I was begrudgingly a Bryson rider. I didn't like it.
A brighter? A brighter. I didn't like it.
I mean, he just was a no. I actually think Rory kind of rope-a-doped him pretty well after the first hole.
After the first hole, you're like, Bryson's going to win this going away. Andryson got comfortable and then just kept on going down they did an interview with him afterwards and they're like what happened with uh with one of your misses i forget which one it was but he was like yeah you know the the wind picked up after i hit it so there's really not a lot i can do about that and then he like looks at her and goes i guess i'll just have to learn to hit the ball harder so now he's that's that's his everything.
He's going to have to drive the ball farther. Was that the interview that they awkwardly did during the playoff? Because there was that one where they cut to Bryson.
We're like, we don't need to hear from Bryson. Yeah, you're done.
He didn't finish second. That's always such a disappointment when the last group, it's worse when both guys don't end up in competition at the very end.
But when one guy just bows out, that's just sad to watch him finish the round of golf. Well, and how do you say his name? Oberg? Oberg.
Yeah. He hasn't earned the umlaut.
That was tough. 18, just making everyone wait because he couldn't hit.
I thought that was great. I thought he was icing Rory.
I was pumped about it. See, this is why he's the number one hitter.
I bet on, I'm going to call him A-Barrick until he wins. He doesn't deserve that.
I bet on him, and Hank, please remind me to not bet on him to win any majors. That's tough.
Because he's going to. But here's the thing.
Did you see how he finished today? Yes, he choked last year too. And this wasn't just a choke.
He could have easily been, yeah. He could have won, but if he had the lead outright, and that's how he ended his round, people would be – let's say he was in he had the lead outright and that's how he ended his round people would be let's say he was in the final group today and that's how he finished his round when he was in he was in contention to win people would be talking about that as maybe the biggest meltdown outside that french guy at the open championship or greg norman yeah but no i think it would be like just as bad if not worse than norman the way he played those last few holes i saying, as a hater, I was like, me and Max were in here and picked out the end, but I was like, what if he just duffed one 100 yards in front of him? What if he just hit a tree and it just came backwards? Ludwig actually did that.
Yeah, he did that. He just hit it into the bunker.
Yeah. You were doing the opposite, Hank.
I was sitting there asking questions like, I think blah, blah, blah. And he's like, no, Rory's got this every time.
He was like, this is easy for him, up and down every time. Hank also shushed us before a tee shot.
I was like, did you just shush us? They were talking about the fucking draft lottery rankings. Oh, yeah, that's the other thing.
We've got to figure out how to get to the lottery. It's in Chicago.
Is it really? When is it? I don't know. It's like very private, but we...
That's what we were talking about. I was saying I hope the Bulls don't make the playoffs and I can be in the lottery because I'm convinced in my dumb brain they'll rig it for the Bulls.
I need to be in the audience. I gotta be in the audience.
Or maybe they have an audience. Who else are the Wizards gonna ask to step in to be the representative? Washington Wizards.
Listen, I would love to represent you. You love the Wizards.
I have always loved the Wizards. Nobody beats the Wizards.
Zards, baby. Yeah.
Zards. I'm a Bullets fan.
Yeah, but the whole, whatever it was, last two hours of the Masters on Sunday. The whole round.
Yeah, the whole round. The three shots swing off the jump and then it was just but especially the last when Justin Rose started making his moves I mean what a fucking putt on 18 to for Justin Rose but that it was just it was sports in its finest like I was just sitting there smiling ear to ear being like no matter what happens here it's it's it's you you know you're watching history and ended up being real history because of his grand slam.
It was great. It was great.
And our boy Max, T12. Yeah, love it.
He gets automatically back to the Masters next year. Max had a great weekend.
The round that he shot on Friday, I think it was a 70 that he shot on Friday, that was the best 70 that you'll ever see in your life. He was scrambling all day, somehow made it work i'm very happy for him i'm also very happy that jt didn't do that great yeah because if jt had finished like top five his caddy is max's old caddy that broke up with him well just for this week yeah just for this but still but still max doesn't need that no no no max max be back.
This might be the start of the championship DVD. Got him pumped up.
He's a superstar. What else? Oh, I think we all, we weren't talking about it before, but I said before the whole Sunday started, and I think you'll agree with me, PFT, like when you're looking at who could win this, Patrick Reed somehow winning it would have been hilarious.
And he actually... If he didn't three-putt on 15, yeah.
I know, the eagle that he held out. Yeah, he ended up what, like third or fourth? No, he had a birdie putt on 15 that he three-putted.
He missed it and missed the par putt, which is two shots, which he would have been tied. Did you guys think Scotty was a little extra icy to Rory in the Butler cabin? I didn't sense that.
I sense Scotty being not like in a fuck you way, more in a I'm the best golfer in the world. I should be winning this every year way.
Like he's pissed off at himself? Yeah, he's going to go on a fuck you tour because he, I mean, he had Saturday was what did him in. What did he end up finishing? Fourth.
And he just couldn't.

He could not get it going on Saturday.

He's also going to be the new narrative guy.

He might just be a Masters merchant.

He's got to win in major that's not the Masters.

Oh, you think so?

I'm thinking like.

Oh, you're just looking for the new narratives?

I'm thinking Rory's.

That was the narrative for a long time.

Not only at the Masters, but 10 years at majors.

You know, he kind of choked at the Open a few years ago, last year at the U.S. Open.
That's a big narrative that's gone now. And Scotty Scheffler, I've already seen a couple tweets where it's like, Scotty Scheffler is the best in the world.
People compared him to Tiger. These are his finishes in majors in his last 10 majors.
It's not the greatest. I like that narrative.
In terms of being called the greatest, he's the number one, he's the best. You're right.
He's finished tied for second in the PGA two years ago and the U.S. Open three years ago.
But still, Hank, he's the narrative finder. I like Scottie.
I like Scottie, too. I feel bad.
It's like someone's got to take up that torch, and he's the number one. He's the number one golfer.
I'm a Scotty guy. I do think that golf is one of those weird sports where you get accused of like, hey, why are you rooting against Roy? It's like, I just can't.
I have to pick my sides in golf. I can't be whoever wins.
I'm just going to be like, oh, I'm so happy for them. Yeah.
It's more fun if you have your side. It's a weird sport.
It's like this and I guess auto racing is kind of similar. Where you just pick a guy and you're like, I enjoy rooting for that one person.
Right. And then if they have any semblance of beef with anybody else, then that guy is now your mortal enemy because you like rooting for that other human.
I know that the beef has been squashed with Bryson, but I did feel dirty betting on him today.

Yeah, you should.

I don't really want to do this.

I don't want to be a brighter.

I generally would just root for...

I just enjoyed...

I guess this is a little sick.

I like chokes and comebacks.

Yeah, right.

You want storylines.

I want something to happen.

If I'm going to be invested...

You're a journalist at heart.

I don't care that much about the players per se, except for a few.

But yeah, rooting against Rory is fine.

You care about the sport.

Yeah, well, you care about the narratives.

And the course.

I like to be entertained.

You're a journalist.

I'm here to be entertained.

You are a journalist at heart.

Who won the journalist lottery?

Do we know that?

I don't know.

Let's see.

I did see there was Kyle Porter, who I actually actually like and he does a good job writing about golf he had one of those tweets this morning i was like dude you you don't really have to say all this um what i know i know what you're talking about yeah this was before the round pft he said i'm completely fine if you want to call me head of the glaze committee or whatever when it comes to Rory. Totally get it.
Completely understand. I've seen every comment imaginable and a lot I wish I hadn't.
We all probably take it too far at times. Me possibly most of all.
It is strange to cover a generational athlete like this, though. Someone who could go down as one of the 10 to 15 best ever in his 150-year-old sport.
Someone who also lets you into his humanity at times, both publicly and privately. I like Rory personally, of course, but I also think his golf and his life bring out the best in me, the best of my writing and my thinking about this stupid, ridiculous game.
Certainly is a rabbit hole that you can go too far down and find yourself in too deep. You might be there, but I would always rather err on the side on that side than on the side of holding back my writing about a sport I've truly grown to love.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, saying he brings, Rory's play brings out the best in me as a writer.
I love that. That's good.
Iron sharpens iron. Glaze committee.
Chairman of, head of the glaze committee. So I can't find out who won the lottery, but Jay Busby said, they've just announced the winners of the Masters Media Lottery, and you're going to be getting some good, here's how I played Augusta stories on Tuesday.
So a little teaser. Apparently it's worthy selections this year.
I know J.J. Watt's playing.
He is. He tweeted that.
He's like, I got lucky enough to be able to play on Monday. That's Ken Griffey Jr.? I don't know know did you see that that'd be pretty cool yeah i mean he's a professional photographer someone's like this is the greatest way to backdoor your way into a tea time he rocks ken griffey jr yeah um him and randy johnson yeah yeah big big photogs did you see um what many people are saying might have spurned rory onto victory okay no yes oh the reckoning no i I was going to say he's reading a book.
Yeah, yeah. The Reckoning.
Oh, that's the name of the book. Yeah, yeah.
I liked it better when they just reported that he was reading a book. Oh, no, it's way better.
Okay. So it's The Reckoning.
First page. Here's the first page.
This is going to be part of my Monday reading. I have a different one for us, but this is the start of The Re of the reckoning.
Uh, it's John Grisham novel on a cold morning in early October of 1946, Pete Banning awoke before sunrise and had no thoughts of going back to sleep for a long time. He lay in the center of his bed, stared at the dark ceiling and asked himself for the thousandth time.
If he had the courage, finally, as the first trace of Dawn peeked through a window, he accepted the solemn reality that it was time for the killing. The need for it had become so overwhelming that he could not continue with his daily routines.
He could not remain the man he was until the deed was done. Its planning was simple yet difficult to imagine.
Its aftershocks would rattle on for decades and change the lives of those he loved and many of those he didn't. That's the start of the book.
Okay. It's time for the killing.
I like it. Yeah.
I also like that John Grisham, all of his books are just the and then a random word. Yeah.
He's like, okay, I've got a good idea for the next one. It's going to start with the.
Yeah. And then he flips a dictionary and stops on where he's like, okay, the client.
Yeah. Yeah.
The Fountainhead is that one? Yeah. That's also John Grisham.
Yeah, that's John Grisham. Other notes from the Masters.
Shout out Nick Dunlap. He actually gets my green jacket.
If we're giving out a personal green jacket, he shot a 90 on Thursday. And basically the worst round you could possibly shoot had the yips and came back and shot a 71 on Friday.
Could have easily withd. He was like dropping his driver in the tee box constantly.
He's my personal green jacket. So I was looking up the worst rounds ever shot at Augusta.
The worst round ever shot technically never happened at Augusta because the guy that shot it, Billy Casper, he shot in 2005. He shot 106 at augusta but in an all-time baller move he finishes and refuses to sign the scorecard i love that so it doesn't officially count i love so the 106 that he shot is not the worst round ever shot there okay that's that was very smart of him um also another note from uh augusta which is i think very important probably the most important thing that happened uh for everyone who's watching uh there's a huge collectible difference between rory winning and rose winning masters 2025 flags would not sell out if rose won uh badge would be half as collectible that's what i thought of immediately when it.
The badge. The badge.
Half as collectible. That was from Darren Revell.
He had an all-timer. Let me pull this up real quick.
Half as collectible. He's been on one this weekend.
This was sent to me by our good friend and kickoff ruiner, Sam Schwartstein. Should items...
This was a picture of gloves worn in the Frozen Four this weekend weekend the uh person who wore the gloves shout out western michigan by the way maction incredible story one going away against bu on saturday night so this guy scored four goals tony sheffler by the way shout out said darren revelle says should items like this go to the hall of fame in an era when collectibles are becoming more increasingly valuable? They sent the gloves to the Hall of Fame and Darren's saying, why are these going? Why should anyone be able to enjoy these when one person can pay for the right to only have them enjoy it? Yeah, why should the whole world be able to go visit these gloves and see history instead of just one privately wealthy person be able to put it in their house? Yeah, why can't out these gloves so why is this in the hockey hall of fame when i could buy it and then put it in my closet for 60 years makes a lot more sense how he had that mlk memorabilia more it was like this should be in a museum dude more increasingly valuable is also a great sentence um the other the other story i had uh maybe all- vibes guy, also maybe something you need to work towards, Hank, the marker. I didn't realize they changed their marker.
So at Augusta, if there's an odd number of guys that make the cut, the last pairing, the last person plays with a marker who's just a member at Augusta. This person plays with them, plays around round with them, doesn't keep their score, also picks up anything within eight feet, but is a really good, really, really good golfer.
The guy's name is Michael McDermott, so I think they had one marker for like 20 years. This guy took over a couple years ago.
Might be an all-time vibes guy, so he played with Tom Kim on the third round. Tom Kim had his best round of of the weekend or of the week uh shot a 72 and then brian campbell today shot a 68 with michael mcdermott the marker so that's got to be the coolest thing we were talking about the e-bug with uh whitney the fact that there's a guy who gets to go play sunday pins in front of the crowd is one of the coolest things ever so uh also with this guy he doesn't have the score like you said he is not allowed to speak to the media yep and he does not get his name on the back of the caddy yep so he this the guy michael uh what's his name michael mcdermott he's also apparently the the ceo of a financial company, and he's a member at Pine Valley, Marion, and Augusta.
I looked it up. Pine Valley is...
Marion is the fifth best private club in the country. Pine Valley's sixth.
So imagine this guy going to Pine Valley and being like, yeah, this actually is my least favorite private club because he's also a member of Augusta. What he shot like he's like the greatest networker of all time that's what i was like right apparently he's an incredible golfer but still there's plenty of incredible golfers how do you you know well i get access to all these you have to be to let alone then be like of all the augusta members to be like all right you're going to be at the marker i think it has to be it because there's a lot of augusta members like bill gates and roger goodell who like you can't have them be the marker it's got to be kind of someone a little bit anonymous and a really good golfer but oh my god i mean that's the coolest he must just and you know he must be he must be the most nervous person on on move on friday right just praying for an odd number right and you also like you know they have to do it this way because if they just got a random person, that person would talk to the media.
If it's an Augusta member, that guy's never, ever going to say a word to the media about anything because he doesn't want to give up his privileges. What if he shot like a 66, 67? Two rounds in a row.
What if he would have made the cut? He beat. There's stories.
The previous one beat guys sometimes.

I think there was a story about a marker beating.

Was it Jeff Knox?

The previous one?

Yeah, this guy has the course record at Augusta.

And he beat a player in a round.

And the player got.

Oh, yeah.

Sergio.

Sergio was pissed.

And Rory.

And Rory.

He was pissed because he was too good?

Well, Rory chokes.

I think he beat Sergio.

And Sergio was mad about it. McElroy would later say that Knox was the best I've ever seen on Augusta's greens.
Ready? Garcia finished 1 over 73. Knox finished 72.
Garcia refused to shake Knox's hand after the round. That's awesome.
And Tiger Woods would go... This was the marker that I heard the story about this week.
Tiger would go to this guy before every Masters tournament and ask him about the greens, how they are at that time. This guy is such a legend.
If you're the marker at Augusta, you are just part of the golf course. Right.
Yeah. I have a question about Augusta Hank.
Did they take a bunch of trees out? Isn't that a story? Hurricane. Yeah, the hurricane made it a lot easier.
Did it? At 10. I feel like there was times where Rory or anyone would hit into the woods, and then they'd go to Dottie, who's phenomenal, by the way.
Dottie's, like, so soothing. They'd be like, hey, Dottie, what do you see? She'd be like, he's got a perfect look.
Not much. He could just go right over this tower.
He's got no problem. There's no trees.
Not A-Barrick. A-Back a brick wasn't good they got to get more trees in there fucking tree magnet i just want a shot tracer is part of it why the shot tracer like it initially will go right and you're like oh that's going to keep going right kind of just go right in the in the fairway but i just when you get in the woods i want you in the woods so yeah the hurricane took him out on 10 the guys were guys were cutting the corner.
It was ridiculous. You could see where there should be trees.
Yeah. Get those trees back in there.
Get those trees back in there. Incredible golf tournament, though.
Happy for Rory begrudgingly. I mean, that show of emotion after he did it, that was as genuine and as cool as it gets.
even my cold hater heart could be like man he the the amount of dream come true like the relief though there's it's it's different than a guy winning and you know if Roy had won in 2011 it would have been nothing like that winning now the relief that he has that he finally did it because if he had spent his entire career being the guy who was one short of the career Grand Slam, it would have haunted him. So, yeah, I'm happy for him.
I know that sounds pussy, because we were haters. Well, no, I mean, it was fun.
We saw him choke. He choked.
That was good. I'm happy for him.
I'm sad for my hate. Yeah, that makes sense.
hate is it's it's extinguished it yeah he vanquished what was the genesis of your hate towards rory uh a lot of live stuff which live i'm i think i'm done with live although some of you know they did you can't say okay but our boys my i mean brooks max camp smith my three favorite golfers and brooks and camp smith that hurt a lot uh but it was it was the live stuff and then even like the u.s open no it was really rider cup it was the rider cup was for me it was the open camp smith i was rooting so hard for camp smith and rooting for rory to miss those putts and he kept missing him he kept missing him that was so fun and then he did it again in the u.s open it was so fun so it's not like a deep-rooted hate a little different than lebron but that open versus camp smith was like such a fun sunday viewing hating experience where everyone was rooting for him he had so many putts and he just left everything so short uh and then it happened again against bryson like that it was the u.s open was shocking yeah he was those three. So that was probably the genesis.
Mine was the Ryder Cup hat gate. Remember the fight in the parking lot? I just got very, you know, USA.
Oh, fuck that. It is tough when you kind of like a guy and then you have to compete against him in the Ryder Cup.
Right. Like, fuck this guy.
Then forever. He's got that that state.
Like I rooted against him that one time and I kind of liked it. Right.
And I kind of want to keep doing it. Yeah.
Yeah doing it. Yeah, because I'm not a natural Rory hater.
I didn't have really a strong opinion about him for whatever the first, I don't know, 10 years of his career. Then Ryder Cup, then the cell phone, then just some of the media stuff, the wheels out, spinning the wheels out.
Which I actually loved, because it was just great how upset everyone was. But yeah, that's where mine came from.
Why are you burying the lead, though, Hank? You might be done with Liv. Are you going to un-Live yourself? Don't do it.
For the Masters, yes. I'm done with thinking that the Liv guys can make it happen.
Do you think there's any? I'm going to do it next year, then. Good luck hater max i mean it's a hater void but it would be right like if the if the year that you stopped doing it yeah do you think you don't want to miss out on that opportunity there's anything to be said with the live guys did really well the first year that live happened and they competed in all these majors they did really well and then as the years have gone on yes because they they all have a ton of money and they're all playing 54 holes right tournament what is it 56 54 54 and they're not they're not pushed the same way i yes i i've come around i've come all the way around.
Who are the four aces again?

It's Patrick Reed,

Dustin Johnson, Harold

Varner, and

Oh!

We were so close.

Let's go Peter Uline. Okay.

No, he was definitely a while ago.

It's been two years of you trying to

name the four aces. Well, they change a lot, dude.

They're going through some stuff. Dustin Johnson, Harold Varner.
Patrick Reed, Harold Varner. And who's the last one? Thomas Peters.
Yeah. Come on.
Belgium. All right.
Let's talk some other sports. We're going to do more Masters with SVP.
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All right. NBA playoffs are here.
We have our seeding. The Cavs are the one seed.
They're going to play the winner of the Magic – sorry, the winner of Magic, Heat Hawks loser versus Heat Bulls winner. I hate to play it.
I hate to play it. Celtics are the two seed.
They're going to play the winner of Magic Hawks. Knicks versus Pistons, Pacers versus Bucs.
That's the East. The West is Thunder versus the Warriors, Grizzlies loser versus the Kings Magic winner.
Again, I hate to play it. Rockets are the two seed versus the warriors grizzlies winner three seed is lakers t wolves four seed is nuggets clippers we had crazy drama it was going on during the masters the warriors were trying to not be in the play and they lost in overtime to the clippers um thoughts boys i'm excited for some playoffs i do not like the play-in because I've said from the beginning

it is a ploy for the Jerry Reinstorf-type owners

to convince their fan base that they've made it to the playoffs

when they have not.

I might like the play-in game.

I like watching the play-in.

The play-in tournament for one exclusive reason this postseason.

Yeah.

That's if the Mavericks go on a little run.

Yeah.

That would be very, very funny to see.

But outside of that, no, I don't like the playing tournament sucks. Like eight seeds.
Give it to us. Eight seeds.
Don't break the nine and the ten into it. The regular season's long.
We've got a big enough sample size. We introduced this just so that we could try to get superstars in that were playing on shitty teams.
It sucks. I don't like it at all.
Think about this. I know, obviously, the Warriors can win and get in, but the Warriors are 48-34.
There's a world where the Mavericks at 39-43 could get in over a 48-34 team. You played 82 games.
It's stupid. And, again, I'm personally biased because Jerry Reinsdorforf uses the bulls being i think this is like the sixth straight year that we've been in the playing game it makes the regular season mean even less which is hard to do for the nba yeah um but somehow you managed you managed to water it down a little bit more it'd be so funny though if the mavericks want to run that's in the name of hilarity and just like chaos that's what i'm rooting for uh nba should have had the schedule today tomorrow yes like insane insane to go up against the masters it's so stupid so hank so we're gonna do a big preview probably on friday maybe get windy on or a silo hank you are wanting who the magic or the hawks i'm wanting the.
Wow. So you're scared of the Magic? We have as bad a record against the Magic as it might be the worst record we have in the last three years against any team.
Really? Yeah. Interesting.
I think we're like two and five or three and six or something in the last nine. Are you more scared of the Magic than you are of the Cavs? Possibly.
Yeah. You disrespect the Cavs.
I'm not worried about the Cavs. Yeah.
The Bulls could beat the Cavs. You keep saying that and you're just, that means you're scared of the Cavs.
Like that actually says that you're scared of the Cavs because you keep saying, I want the Bulls to beat the Cavs. I didn't say I want them to.
I'm just saying like Bulls are trending. The Cavs are overrated.
Again, March basketball that we played a week ago, and the Cavs beat us by 20. I think it's half Hank disrespecting the Cavs, half Hank hating the Cavs, and then the last is Hank being half scared of the Cavs.
Yeah. Three halves to Hank's hatred.
I'm very excited for the West playoffs, though, because the Lakers and T-Wolves are going to be great.

T-Wolves have been playing well down the stretch.

I mean, I don't know where the Warriors, like Rockets,

old heads versus new guys.

Yeah.

It's going to be fun.

A doke of revenge.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then John Morant, the Grizzlies, I don't know.

I want John to keep playing more because I want him to keep finding

different ways to pull out weapons, fake weapons, like throwing grenades at the crowd. I want him to turn like a nuclear weapon key.
He has to get a teammate to help him do that one. I want this to keep getting more and more violent, and then Ja just being like, fuck it, fine, me.
Do whatever you want to. Nobody's talking about the Rockets.
Nobody's talked about the Rockets all year. Rockets are good.
Should we put some respect on the Rockets? Well, the Rockets are like the Thunder last year. You could just say they're really good, but they got to go through it once.
I would like to officially put some part of my take respect on the Houston Rockets. Can we do that? Respect done.
They got the LeBron stopper. Yeah.
Respect on the Rockets, but I just think that they're too young. Five-year playoff drought.
Done. Gone.
James Harden, no longer on the team not walking through that door but James new guys Emei yeah good coach he's a very good great coach still don't know what he did yeah that's kind of weird but he's a good coach uh the Clippers we should the Clippers scare me as a as a Nuggets fair weather fan anytime Kawhi is healthy yeah you have to be scared of the Clippers because he still will. The Clippers could absolutely beat the Nuggets and then Kawhi and then we'll get a story that Kawhi actually is hurt and he's out for the rest of the playoffs and they'll lose.
And then some team will give him $200 million. By the way, speaking of Nuggets, so Friday night, Jokic sealed a triple-double for the season.

Third time ever that it's happened.

Oscar Robinson, Russell Westbrook, Nicole Jokic

for averaging a triple-double in a season.

Pretty crazy.

He's not going to win MVP this year,

partially because SGA has been incredible,

but also a little voter fatigue.

Does anyone want to guess what Jokic,

his response to averaging a triple-double for the year was after the game? Is good. Pretty close.
Okay. He said, it's nice.
I think I didn't do that before. I don't know.
I don't know what to say. It's good.
There we go. It's perfect.
I think I didn't do that before. He's the fucking best.
Yeah, no. Like, remember when Russell Westford did it? This is the third time it's ever happened.
i didn't do that before he's the fucking best yeah no like remember when russell westbrook did it it's ever happened yeah remember when russell westbrook did it and was like was crashing every free throw to get the rebounds and everything and yoke's just like it's good i don't think i've done that yeah it's good it's nice very nice uh the uh the westbrook series from the Nuggets to the Clippers, I feel like the team that used to have Westbrook on their roster usually wins these types of series. I might just be making that up.
It might be based off vibes, but I feel like getting to play against him every night is good for the team that used to have him because they're constantly being reminded, like, thank God this guy's not on our team anymore. Yeah.
Right? Even though he's kind of been a little bit of a different player for the Nuggets. Maybe he can just go revenge mode.
He could go, but that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's not good.
When he goes revenge mode, that's actually bad. Yeah.
Do we have any thoughts on LeBron shirtless warming up? Isaiah Thomas was in tears. I think it's disrespectful to the game.
Forever. I know.
I loved how upset Isaiah Thomas was. He was so mad.
He was so, so mad about it. I don't know if you can find the clip.
Sweaty. On his nipples protruding.
Disgusting. It was like an empty arena.
And Isaiah Thomas was just, he was gonna cry. He might be going through some body image issues of his own.
Who? Isaiah Thomas. The fact that he freaked out by seeing his- Get this jacked shirtless guy off my screen.
Yeah, the fact that he gets that upset by seeing another man take his clothes off is pretty suspect. Yeah, it's suspect.
Yeah, we did actually get to the bottom of PFT's thing with the gym. We did? Yeah, he was jerking off in the guy's face.
I was jacking off in his face, yeah. Apparently that's gay.
Guys can't jack off. He told us after we stopped recording, he's like, oh, I forgot.
I was jerking off in his face. That dude has never played a team sport if he's getting upset about having a guy jack off in his face in the locker room.
Come on, man. Alright, yeah, play it.
Play it, Max. Shirts and skins is what they're doing in that room.
I just totally 100% object to this. And I was the GM, the coach.
Me too. I would never let one of my players walk out on the floor looking like this.
I mean, we are professional NBA league. We ain't summer league.
We ain't you know, at the YMCA league. I think coaches gotta go back to suits.
I just mean. Absolutely.
He almost swore. College and pro.
I just think the professionalism in our NBA league has diminished so much. And look, I like LeBron.
I'm a fan of him. That means he hates LeBron.
But to walk out on the floor before a game with no shirt on. I mean, come on, man.
Where we at? What we doing? Where we at? Now, if you want to, Adam Silva, if you want to find somebody, find that. Find that.
I'm spoken by the Hall of Fame. I love his whole thing because he, I think he's in love with LeBron because he's like, to see a man out there on the court, no shirt off, working out, looking all strong.
The only word that comes to my mind is fine. Yeah, fine.
Fine. That man, fine.
Fine. Fine his ass.
Yeah, it's also funny that Isaiah Thomas is like, if I were the GM or the coach, you were both yeah and you and you were you were fired for for bad reasons yeah really bad or good reasons i would say bad things but good reason i would say which big cat which do you think is less professional uh working out shirtless yeah or sexually harassing your entire staff yeah it's nah man lebron should put a shirt on fine because that's how sexual harassment starts that's true broad walking around without a shirt on he's sexually harassing isaiah thomas maybe that's why isaiah thomas had such a reaction he was like if i were the gm i'd sexually harass him right now yeah so you can then they'd fire me you got to stop that problem before it starts because some somebody's gonna fuck him oh man was so funny he was so oh yeah uh skip alice obviously agreed with him loved it loved it that isaiah thomas on nba tv called out lebron said he should be fine for warming up shirtless took guts to spit that truth isaiah has guts and you certainly can't dismiss isaiah has as just another old school jordan guy uh that is true he does hate Michael Jordan he hates Michael Jordan yeah but I mean he's he's definitely

old as just another old school Jordan guy. That is true.
He does hate Michael Jordan. He hates Michael Jordan.
Yeah. But, I mean, he's definitely old school.
Yeah. But I love the part where Isaiah Thomas says, and I like LeBron because I've said the same thing.
I know that as a hater when you're like, I mean, I just did it when I was like, I was happy for Rory. That's not real.
You just say that. That's a real hater.
Also, in Skip's mind, the only reason that you could hate LeBron is if you're just supremely in love with Michael Jordan. Yes.
That's why he's like, I love this. It's as binary as it gets.
Yeah. What do you think about the Knicks? They're not going to go anywhere.
I think they'll win a series. They could lose to the Pistons.
Knicks fans, I feel like, are down bad right now on this team. They're not gonna go anywhere i think i think they'll win a series they could lose the pistons um knicks fans i feel like are down bad right now on this team they're not very happy because i they're like still it does feel like they're still away from the celtics and the calves right far away yeah uh we also had sam van gundy did you see that he called out philly and new york he said fair weather fans uh he said they're passionate uh someone asked him like uh what do you think about the love affair with the nixon fans and their team he said well they're passionate love affair i don't know love affair when they're playing well and hate affair when they're not playing well the nicks fans and the philly fans they're front- fans.
They're in love with their team when things are going well, but they'll boo their team off the floor when they're not playing well. That's not a crowd that's focused on lifting you up.
Bad sports towns. Pussy.
Yeah, I couldn't disagree more. Living in New York for whatever we did, six, seven years, Knicks fans love their team.
They just fucking, they want them to be good.

Knicks fans were nowhere to be found until the bing bong team.

They always sold out a MSG.

Yeah, but like they weren't vocal.

Once those bing bong side talk or whatever videos started coming out.

Oh, I think Knicks fans are very passionate.

That was like two years before we left.

Before that, they were nowhere to be found. Yeah, but there's also a difference between the Knicks fans that can't afford tickets to go to every Knicks game and then the average Knicks fan.
I think Knicks fans are very passionate. They really care.
Also, what Stan Van Gundy is describing, that's just fans. Yeah.
What would be a good sports town then? A team that loves their shitty, shitty ass teams. Even when they're – yeah, that's true.
Yeah, Oklahoma City. They still put on the shirt.
They still put on the shirt. But they're good.
Yeah, I know, but I'm saying in years when they haven't been good, they still put on the shirt. But that's all they got.
I know. That's the only thing they have in Oklahoma City.
If there's other sports – like if the Sixers who are 30 games under .500 in March – Was that true? I don't know. I hope so.
Would you rather go to that game or the Phillies that are playing right next door that are going to be competing for the World Series this year? Sounds like a fair weather fan. At the bank.
But what would you rather go to? I agree with you. It's a dumb...
I don't understand. I also think this is partially because his brother coached there.

Yeah.

Also, in Philly, they boo you, but then if they realize that they've booed you and gone too far,

they'll sarcastically cheer for you to try to make you better.

It wasn't sarcastic.

It was.

It was.

It was at first.

It was at first.

But then it worked.

Wrong.

Simulate the lottery one time, Max.

Good call.

Good call.

We should go.

Yeah. Agreed.
I'm excited for the NBA Plus. We will have an expert on to break it down.
There we go. You got it.
Cooper flag. Give us a best of seven.
So Washington gets the first pick on one of them. Okay.
So we're going to do this a million times? No, seven times. Best of seven.
We'll see who gets the most. Oh! Philly gets it.
1-1. Oh! Philly 2-1.
This is crazy. How is this possible? We've done this three times.
We've only had Philly and Washington. Philly 3-1.
Oh my God. I swear to God.
Oh man. Utah.
How many times was that? Keep going. Keep going.
Just keep going. Washington.
3-2. We'll just do it until one of you gets four.
Okay. Brooklyn.
Philly. 4-2.
4-2. Blood 4-2.
What are the odds of that happening? Very low. You guys have a 10% shot at it? Yes.
It's going to be such bullshit if the sixers get coopified yeah i'm gonna be so i'm gonna hate the fuck out of it you're gonna see me flip instantly that'd be such you guys are building duke 2.0 yeah true yeah yeah sure i said it yeah Yeah, I said it. He said it.
I like it. Yeah.

Memes said you passed on Tatum. You like that, Hank.
Marco Fulcher. Memes, you got to get your mic on for that.
Memes, that was fire. That was so fire.
You got to get your mic on for that. Memes hates JJ.
Should we talk about Nico at Tennessee a little bit? Yeah, let's talk about it. College sports, it was put into quite the turmoil on Saturday morning.
Well, I had no idea. I knew we were going to talk about Sunday.
I haven't followed the story at all. I've just seen so many people say Nico this, Nico that, Nico this, Nico that.
There is so much pearl clutching about what this means for the sport. We should back up a little.
Nico got a shitload of money from the collective at the University of Tennessee to go to school at Tennessee. He was the number one recruited quarterback.
They got him. They were pumped that they got him because can't miss prospect.
Tom Fernelli, your best friend, Hank, was sitting on that couch and said Nico for Heisman before the season started. I bet it.
He did not win. It did not work because it turns out he didn't play well at all against any good schools.
He beat up on the trash cans, and then he was like a very average to slightly below average quarterback in SEC play. Then his dad or his uncle, a family member i forget which one a family member goes back to ut and says hey price the bag just went up i know you're paying what two mil it was two and a half mil and then they wanted four they wanted four mil so they said price the bag just went up to keep nico gotta pay four million now because there's other schools that would pay that and tennessee was like we're not going to talk about that right now we're still in the season in fact it was the week of their playoff game that they had against ohio state right that um he was actively shopping himself allegedly to other teams then he does a holdout so he doesn't go to practice and he's holding out from team activities this is after the play playoff game.
The spring game was Saturday and there was rumors that this was happening.

And Tennessee fans now,

I consider myself a fault for life from winning national championships with Doug's in Knoxville.

Tennessee fans maybe weren't doing the best this week when there were reports.

I think Ari Wasserman had something. I think someone had on three network had reports that this was happening and tennessee fans were attacking those reporters and being like this is bullshit you're just making this up turns out it was all true he skipped the practice on friday and then didn't show to the spring game on saturday and it's over yeah so what tennessee did was actually smart.
They came out and they said, we're moving on from Nico. Yeah.
Before Nico had a chance to be like, I've entered the transfer portal. He wasn't good enough to get a million and a half race.
Like if he had been a no doubt guy, I think Tennessee would have paid him. Probably.
I think they would have been like, Hey, if he was Arch Manning, if he was someone who has, like, you have to keep him on your team because you have these title chances, I don't think he proved that. And they're like, all right, go.
I'm in the playoff, it sounded like. But Nico, well, their defense is really good.
Nico, I think he's getting bad advice from his. So his dad is his agent, which also complicates things because when your dad is your agent agent the one thing that your dad doesn't have to do he's not representing other people so he doesn't have to act in good faith in any of the negotiations he could basically say i'm gonna burn this school because guess what i don't have any other clients that when i come back around asking for money they can't be like hey you burn me that time so his dad's his agent his dad was like trying to get him more money i think it's short-sighted because nico if he had a really good year in josh heupel's offense could be a high draft pick make a lot of money instead now he's gonna have to go somewhere else learn a whole new offense learn new personnel uh in a short window yeah that's the thing he is um he's not good enough to get a raise from tennessee up to four million dollars but there's probably another school out there that's willing to throw a bag at him oh yeah and say let's see so he's going to get a raise it's going to work out like financially okay for him this year but big cat's right like tennessee is is probably the best place he could be if he's thinking about where he wants to get drafted in the future and it also, this is why I feel like this is all eventually going to get sorted out one way or another, because my theory has always been that like, eventually these rich guys and NIL and collect the collectives are going to be sick of paying millions and millions of dollars to 18 year olds that might not pan out.
And this is of what happened here because nico they they were like no we're not going to pay another million and a half so the qb class of 2023 these are the top eight guys arch manning still at texas nico now in the transfer portal dante moore started ucla oregon jackson arnold started oklahoma now Auburn uh Malachi Nelson remember he was like a can't miss USC now he's at UTEP Jaden Rashada started ASU now he's in the portal Aiden Childs started Washington State now sorry Oregon State now Michigan State and Austin Mack started Washington now at Alabama like it's it's hard to predict if these guys are going to be good. Yeah.
And it's hard to give $2.5 million to a guy who might be like, yeah, I'm going to go somewhere else. It's a system problem.
The problem is, like, with basically no rules whatsoever, so of course this type of shit is going to happen. And when you gamble on, like, a five-star recruit out of high school, they don't always hit, except now, guess what? Now you're tying a bunch of money to that person and then when they leave now you're pissed off because it's like oh shit i was told that i had to pay a million dollars to get this kid to go to my favorite school yeah so i could watch him play then he sucked and now i feel like i just wasted a million dollars so of course the people that are funding it are gonna be like i don't want to pay for that anymore let's try to get somebody in the portal that's going to come here um they also he fucked over the team yeah because the team had a plan like they thought that nico might be going as early as december of last year because they were starting to hear these like things about like nico is is unhappy he's going to want more money so they were going to try to recruit other quarterbacks but those other quarterbacks wouldn't go to school there right Nico was still the quarterback because they're like, this guy's going to start ahead of me for a year, maybe two years so then they couldn't get their roster in order for next season because they thought Nico was coming back and then Nico's like, actually, fuck it, I'm out Yeah, did you hear the rumor? Shout out Dan Lanning, ride or die guy good guy the rumor was that he was the one who tipped off.
Josh Heupel was like, Hey, Nico's dad's trying to get him to go somewhere else. Yeah.
Like, and told him that. And that's when, how Tennessee found out.
I just, I think it's just, it's unfortunate because I do, I am very much in favor of the kids getting paid and they should get paid because they're bringing in billions of dollars and it's so stupid. It took this long, but I just like, this is a situation where I think he's getting bad advice and Josh Heupel is a really good offensive coach.
And to have this, do this for a million and a half dollars when the alternative is possibly staying at Tennessee, doing really well under Josh Heupel and and your third year in the system, second year playing in the system, and then maybe getting drafted high, there's a lot more money that way. Yeah.
And now you don't know. I mean, it could all turn out.
It could be fine. But I also think that if you're a Tennessee fan, you shouldn't worry because Josh Heupel's a really good coach.
And it's also kind of good showing that you have like, you're not gonna in future negotiations you're not going to just placate everyone turns out one year free agency kind of sucks as a yes we need two-year contract yeah listen it's it's good for the players in terms of short term they're able to bounce around where they want if they think in different schools good for them and get paid a shitload of money it's not always the best thing to transfer but that option's there which is a good thing but as a fan it fucking sucks right it really it really sucks eventually i think that they should have trades if you're going to have holdouts we gotta have trades now do you think we'll ever get to a point where we have a college football draft well i think because that would rock trades would be cool i think it should be like a soccer system where if you go from a smaller school to a bigger school, the bigger school has to pay money to the smaller school. I like that.
A loan system. I thought you meant smaller schools can actually start making money off of this.
I thought you meant like youth academies, like University of Tennessee middle school. Yeah, no, no.
But you recruit guys to go there when they're 11. But like college basketball specifically, like there's a lot of the mid-majors or smaller get rated for their talent for their seniors.
Why shouldn't the Power Fives pay those schools a fee to get their player? Yeah, I think that would be awesome. It will never happen.
A draft will never happen for college football, but it would just be funny to think about it happening. Yeah.
So, yeah, that's Nico. It was just crazy college football.
And we're actually, like, Tennessee had their spring game. We're losing spring games.
Spring games are going to be, I bet you in a couple years, there will be no spring games. Also, Hank, did you hear this one? Did you know his name? It's I'm a Liva.
That's his i'm a i'm a leave yeah it's not i'm a stay did you hear that that's the first time there was a yeah that's one of yours that's literally everyone yeah and then someone also a fan had uh on the his jersey just he put tape over and said i'm a I like that. Quick work.
Hank, the day that he signed with Tennessee, everybody that didn't get him made that joke immediately. Also, Tennessee has a little bit, a tiny bit to, they're a tiny bit to blame.
Or they shouldn't be a surprise because he prioritized money from the get-go. Yeah.
So you can't be shocked when he prioritizes money again yeah like that was the whole reason he went to tennessee was like they offered him the most amount of money and and that's how it worked and that's fine but then when he turns around he's like i want more money you can't be like oh i can't believe he did this i thought he loved knoxville yeah as a journalist it's fucked up that their fans were running out the journalists there was a little bit i mean look if, look, if you're a fan, you don't want it to be true. I think the reporting was right.
Maybe I'm just biased because of the Tennessee fans that I know. There's more than one, probably.
But the writing's been on the wall that Nico was probably going to try to rake him over the coals. Yeah.
Yeah. It was definitely in the...
Big T knew. He knew you know he knew um okay let's do who's

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He's ripped. He looked so much, like he looked twice as jacked and strong as when he was first introduced to the world.
And more skilled. Like when I say he's awesome, we all knew he was awesome.
He's an awesome dude. But I feel like he's gotten way better at fighting he said that he doesn't like before the the very funny classic video uh when he would just bulk up eat whatever the fuck you want and then you know cut at the very last minute he actually just stays in shape now and like eats healthy and trains correctly which you know shocking like it's working for him yeah but.
But yeah, he fucked him up. Good for him.
I love watching Paddy fight, too. Yeah.
And then he got into a little bit of a shouting match afterwards, too. Yeah, with Colby Covington.
Where he didn't really shout. He was just like, okay, dude.
Yeah. Okay.
And we like Michael Chandler, too. He would beat the fuck out of Colby Covington.
That part sucked. He slapped Shane.
Oh, yeah. At Pier Olympics.
I didn't know that until tonight. Yeah.
He also. He was the man at Pier Olympics.
He was the man at Pier Olympics. Because I remember I was just standing with our friend Chris O'Connor.
And I just was like, hey, Chandler. Chris O'Connor says he can make you tap.
And then he just put him in our bar right away. It was awesome.
He's the man. But, yeah, Patty.
My other who's back of the week is dunking. Oh, whoa.
Are you going to dunk? I'm going to host a dunk contest. Oh.
That's kind of weird that you'd be hosting a contest for something that you can't do. Yeah.
Those who can't do teach? It's also a judge. It's also a Judge.
Well, yeah, definitely judge. It's KFC Dunkin' Challenge.
We have a dunk contest. We have four legitimate dunkers come to the office this week on Wednesday.
It's exciting. I feel like last week was an exciting week in the office, and low-key, we got another exciting one on Wednesday.
You get any tips from them? Get any tips from them? Yeah. I'm going to ask them what they got.
Pick your brains a little bit. Low-key, low-key? No, it's going to be high.
It's going to be pretty high-key? It's going to be exciting. High-key, low-key? We got flyers coming in the office.
Love that. Very cool.
Me, Hannah Montoya, Walla, and Gilly. Hell yes.
Oh, they're coming? Yeah. On Wednesday? Yeah.
Where's the winner again? Where should we get them on the show? $2,500. Yeah.
Pretty good. Okay.
PFT. My Who's Back of the Week is takes.
Fucking takes are back. You just got stopped in your tracks.
I got dead stopped in my tracks right before we got started taping this segment. I have never even conceived of a take this hot in my brain.
PFT literally while we were sitting here he just goes oh my god. Oh my god.

I go oh my god

and then you guys were like what and I go

this take.

We might have been recording that moment as well.

Put it in.

This is a great great

fucking take.

I love when PFT really

really respects a take. Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. Kid, maybe.
I can't even fathom what sport or just a general take this could be about. It hasn't done big numbers yet, but, I mean, I don't understand that.
This is a, it's insane, even coming from the guy that it hasn't done big numbers yet, but I mean, I don't understand that.

It's insane, even coming from the guy that it's coming from, Greg Doyle.

Oh.

Greg Doyle from the Indy Star.

I'm blocked.

Just dropped a column.

The internet, this is the end of the internet.

I don't think we can go any further than this.

All right, here we go.

Here's the post.

Masters contender Bryson DeChambeau accepted $ million dollars from the alleged backers of 9-11 quarterback nico iam oliva sought additional millions from tennessee which of these is okay with you and why that's the post then you open it up and it is a column that is heaping equal amounts of judgment on both Bryson DeChambeau and Nico. Okay.
They're both the same thing. Right.
Can we talk about something serious without getting snagged by politics or race? Yeah. Dumb question.
That's always a great way to start out your article is to ask a rhetorical question and then answer it saying that you shouldn't be doing this call. He loves to do those questions of himself.

No chance of that.

Not for society as a whole anyway, but how about you?

How about me?

Can the two of us discuss the greed of two very different Americans

and the very different societal reaction to that greed?

Can we talk about Nico and Bryson?

Can we do it without losing our mind?

Can we do it without losing our soul?

Can we agree that one size, as it relates to our reaction to their greed should fit both gentlemen both have shamelessly chased the almighty dollar nico decided two million in nil wasn't enough to play quarterback for tennessee one year after the state's attorney general fought for and won his right to cash in so richly shame on nico yeah the state the state's attorney for has he no has he no respect for the effort and the days of paperwork that the state's attorney did um de chambeau chose to take 125 million dollars from the saudi arabian government which is believed to have funded the 9-11 attack on u.s soil only one has been largely vilified no not the guy bought off by the saudis uh no i think like yeah i think as a society i can say this 24 years since it happened um we've come to the conclusion that 9-11 was bad well not only that but we also the all the live guys got vilified hard for a while yeah like it's like all we really hard yeah we talked about the entire anyways solid year i'm not i'm not going to read this column but somehow in greg doyle's brain society has decided that 9-11 wasn't that bad and that nico is worse than 9-11 oh you you miss uh he says go bryson or sorry but but the voice of public opinion has been heard on both gentlemen and overwhelmingly it sounds like this go bryson go to heck nico sir sir a second million dollars has been awarded to nico for attending the university of tennessee go to heck nico this is also just a very dated live is bad take yeah like he's he's a year and a half behind. Being like, hey, why isn't anyone talking about these live guys? Does he mention the merger? No, he does not mention.
Like, the fact that PGA has come completely around and to the point of merging with it? Right. That's like if American Airlines was like, MBS, let's talk Turkey here.
I'd like to do a frequent flyer mile this is such a weird i feel like this article was written just for henry henry lockwood this article was yeah like a live head who hates rory no i what do you mean that's what i'm saying like you announced yeah oh you've got to live yourself uh so my my other reel who's back of the week is uh kidney We are the number one kidney stone podcast in the United States. Big Cat has been, you've had two bouts with the stones, right? Two bouts.
How many stones total? I've had one, and then the last time was four, one that I passed, three that I think are just chilling. And that was like in the fall.
And so I had my first bout right after you had your first bout. Yep.
I had a baker's dozen inside me at that point. We're very synced up.
I had 13 kidney stones in my system in like 2018. The first one really hurt badly to pass.
The second and third, I felt them. They weren't nearly as bad.
And then I just kind of forgot about them and didn't follow up with a urologist and figured it would all work its way out.

Saturday, I'm sitting on my couch.

I'm helping Blake, who's recovering from his ACL surgery quite nicely.

He's doing a great job.

He did poop in the bed because he was super relaxed after the surgery, but that's fine.

He's a good boy.

So I was relaxing in my living room.

It was about 6 p.m. yesterday, and I started to get this bad pain.

But it's not the same as the first one that I got.

This one was directly located on my nuts.

In fact, one nut in particular.

So I was like, why does my nut hurt so bad?

And it got worse, and then it got way worse,

and then I felt like I was going to pass out and throw up.

I started sweating.

Did you just have permanent, like you feel like you just got hit in the nut?

It feels like I got kicked in the nuts all the time,

but it just didn't go.

It just,

and it got,

and it got worse to the point where like I was,

I was about to pass out from it.

So I was like,

I got to go to the hospital.

So I go to the hospital and then on my intake into the hospital,

the lady was like,

we need to get you fast pass to the back to do an ultrasound on you to make

sure you don't have uh twisted

testicles sometimes you hear about like i feel like some baseball players have had that so then they do an ultrasound on my balls which is very it's a very strange thing and they're like uh if it's a twisted testicle we might have to remove the testicle but we might be able to save it so now i'm like fuck am i going to walk out of the bathroom one ball lighter which i personally would be okay with because I always feel like it's like when you look at flowers, one rose looks

very... So now I'm like, fuck, am I going to walk out of the bathroom one ball lighter? Which I personally would be okay with because I always feel like it's like when you look at flowers, one rose looks very pretty in a vase.
Two roses looks awful. Yeah, it's awful.
Three roses looks great. Yeah.
But I got two nuts. I'd be okay with having one nut.
I could make that work. Also would have been hilarious.
Yellow wristbands for everyone in the office. Yeah.
Yeah, it would have been hilarious for the show. Like, just like,'m the guy with one like have some balls and you could be like i will too soon yeah or like

dan campbell goes for it on fourth down and pft has to do the the south park but it's only one

ball oh memes would get so much mileage out of that yeah so um so then i'm in the hospital

thinking i might be walking out here a ball lighter and uh they do the ultrasound they tell

me good news it it's not the twisted testicle by the way i don't recommend anybody get an

I don't recommend anybody get an ultrasound done on their nuts because it's very awkward, especially when the technician's a female. They rub that thing? Yeah, they do the like warm gel and they had me get in this weird position and it was a whole thing.
Anyway, so then I go back in the room and I don't know what's going on, but my nuts keep hurting worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and uh eventually i get a cat scan done after like four hours in the hospital feeling awful and it's another kidney stone which is at that point i was pumped i was fucking pumped it was a kidney stone and i wasn't gonna have to get a nut removed so um yeah i've been in pretty much i was in excruciating pain from like 5 p.m till 3 a.m on saturday it's the worst now i'm good uh until like an hour ago and it's coming back and it's bad uh so yeah hopefully i pissed this thing out tonight i've been trying to piss while we podcast today and nothing's coming out it's brutal and you when you say because i i had the same thing going to the hospital when they tell you that it's a kidney stone it sounds stupid to be like thank god but a kidney stone symptoms are basically you're about to die yeah like your your your internal organs are about to explode so when they're like oh no you're just a fat piece of shit that probably eats like shit and you have a bunch of salt that formed in your kidney you'll piss it out in a few days you're like thank you thank you lord that's all i wanted to hear yeah at the time i was like i'll change anything i'll do anything god just get me out of the hospital and then they're like it's a kidney stone you just maybe need to have like one less bowl of ramen per week and i'm like yeah no deal yeah no deal so yeah we're i mean we've been through this before i'll be able to piss this thing out i got multiple kidney stones i said but i'm i'm okay i'm i'm fine with it it could have been a lot worse so this technically means i'm back on the clock you're back because we have literally gone i had a kidney stone you had a kidney stone i had a kidney stone you had a kidney stone so i'm back it's it's my turn yeah they said they said multiple whiteboard in the studio yeah well do you think it has zero days since. Yeah.
Well, do you think it has any to do with the fact. Zero days since the last stone has passed.
Do you think it has any to do with the fact that before every podcast, we dock? No, probably not. All right.
Because if anything, well, yeah, that's maybe how it gets passed back and forth. We just piss it up each other's dicks all the time.
Oh, man. I'm sorry.
It's okay. It's a lot of pain, but it's not nearly as much pain as I was in on Saturday.
Your household is snakebitten. You guys are like a playoff team.
One week after another, just marquee players getting injured, and all of a sudden the season's just over. Yeah, well, good news is we're getting an impact player back.
The El Camino's up and running. Oh, shit.
Yeah, so now we're living high yeah uh but yeah so it was it was not a fun experience on Saturday I will not be changing anything likely about my diet uh that's good yeah I mean I am who I am at this stage what am I gonna do stop eating salt salt is the best thing that you can eat you can't you can't do it so Hank you're actually on the Yeah. Yeah.
Thought about that? No. I'm before Hank.
Who that you can eat. You can't.
You can't do it. So, Hank, you're actually on the clock.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thought about that?

No.

I'm before Hank.

Yeah, that's probably true.

I mean, like, I went to, after my kidney stone, I went to get a physical because I was like,

oh, I should probably get this checked out.

Healthy as could be.

I love that. I mean, a little overweight, but everything else.

My wife was actually mad at me that my cholesterol was normal. She's like, not right like you you eat like run the test again this is bullshit like you can't you can't be healthy when like everyone else has to like do all these things to make sure they stay out i'm sorry it is it's a funny thing when the doctor comes back in they read your your labs for you and they're like, yeah, it turns out your blood work is all excellent.

Yeah.

But you're just, you eat like a motherfucker and you've got gravel forming inside of your body.

It was just like, yeah, you could lose probably 15, 20, 25 pounds, but everything else good.

Is there a main cause for kidney stones?

Is it salt?

There's a couple of things.

It could be salt.

Dehydration.

It could be dehydration.

It could be somewhat hereditary.

There's one that I think probably is my fault.

Coffee.

Yeah.

That could be.

It's anything that's like that is, what is it, a diuretic?

No.

Yeah, diuretic.

The nurse told me like multiple caffeine drinks a day will do it.

I was like, well, yeah, I do that.

That's every day.

And she was like, yeah, me too.

Yeah.

It's a different type of pain. Big cat you you were very well experienced in it uh it's the type of pain that people say i wouldn't wish on my biggest enemy i disagree wholeheartedly yeah it's this is the exact thing that you should be wishing on your worst and all my enemies i want to have this exactly i want them yeah hank yes it feels like you're it feels like your your your stomach and back are going to explode at the same time also the doctor again for the second time told me that this pain is worse than childbirth which i will not be saying to any women but it's true but it is true yeah and so i've given birth to like 13 i'm i'm as tough as philip river's's wife.
Kind of good lead into my question.

Probably a dumb question.

Can women get kidney stones?

Yes, they can.

Okay.

And they can be, that's just as painful.

But it's gross when they do it.

It's manly when we do it.

Yeah.

When I stand at the toilet and scream.

Yeah, yeah.

That's the difference.

Man type shit.

Alpha shit.

Yeah.

I think it's more common for men.

Yeah, because we just go harder in life.

Yeah.

We just fucking live on the edges.

See, I can't wait for the second that I'm taking a piss and I hear the ping in the back

of the toilet.

It's going to be great.

You need to get the thing.

I got to get the strainer.

They didn't give me the strainer.

Yeah, you feel like a gold rush guy.

I would just piss into the strainer. I did gain a whole new appreciation, though, for ER staff.
Yeah. Because I had to sit out in the main lobby for not even that long because they rushed me back to do the ultrasound.
But I was there for like five or six minutes. And the people that are in an emergency room at like 8 p.m., 9 p.m.
saturday night god bless those that have to corral them yeah and get them to communicate yeah it's a hell of a job uh all right my uh who's back the week i have two the first is going to be oh guys lying about their weight or maybe not You see DT, President Trump. He's actually lost weight.
He's 224.

224 224 6 3 224 so that is that's awesome that's rg3 uh yeah that's maybe dk metcalf i love it and i i know people like uh getting a whole tizzy about it they're like this is bullshit listen if your doctor, then it's the truth. Just like my blood works fine.
What do I fucking care? I think that he does that now. Like at first, I think he was lying about it.
Now he lies about it because he knows that people are going to get fun of him for lying about it. Yeah, because he was 230 and now he's 224.
Yeah. The Elon, there was like an article about Elon and how he's like a dumpster fire and people were accusing him of drugs and someone from SpaceX was like, no, he actually gets randomly drug tested at SpaceX.
Passes everyone. That's good.
Yeah. Who runs SpaceX? Elon.
Oh, okay. Yeah.
His drug test is like, yep. Yeah.
All of them. Good.
That dude loves ketamine. And then my other who's back is our good friend and colleague, Coach John Gruden, because I took him up to Madison this weekend.
And I got to say, I was smiling ear to ear, not only because I got to see one of my favorite teams up close. We went to spring practice.
But seeing Coach Gruden in his natural habitat, Wisconsin posted his speech to the team, which which was awesome but there were so many behind the scenes hilarious moments where like i had to keep i had to keep like getting him to like like we were trying to go somewhere and i had to keep like coming back and grabbing him because he would he would talk to like the tight ends coach and he's like what what are you running like what what formations what's your like what's your language like and just sit there and talk to him it was there there's something that happens when you uh when you like go to like the park or you go somewhere with your little kids and if you take your eye off them for a minute they could be like on the other side of the park you're like holy shit how'd they get over there they saw a bird or they saw a squirrel that kept on happening at practice where i would basically i was standing

on the sideline and i'd look up and i'd be like where's coach gruden and he would just be standing

next to coach fickle like with a call sheet ready to call a play and it was just the best he had the

power stance that's like vacation for him yeah just going to visit a practice and just talking

about ball the best was we went up to uh a kid who was visiting and he was uh i don't know like

i think he was a sophomore he was he was visiting wisconsin and he's a running back and just

I'm going to go. best was we went up to a kid who was visiting and he was uh i don't know like i think he was a sophomore he was he was visiting wisconsin and he's a running back and just coach gruden just went up to him he's like how deep you line up he's like i'm the quarterback show me how deep you line up and that was it that was our whole conversation that's like all right good to meet you he just wanted to know uh i wanted to know how deep they're lining up in in high school football he looks so happy just being around a football team.
Yeah. And somehow, I felt a little bit hurt.
I did. Because we've lined up in formation for him here at work.
Yeah. And he doesn't have that same spunk in his step when he sees us do it as he does an actual collegiate Division I football team.
It was a little bit hurtful. Yeah.
But he was smiling. He was so happy.
He was so happy. We were just like, he was smiling the whole time.

It's great to see him in it.

I don't want to lose him, but I also, when you see someone that happy in that habitat,

you're just like, ah.

It's like if you get a dog, like a Border Collie, and you live in an apartment, and your dog loves you.

You have a great time with the dog, and then you take the dog out to an open- air dog park with some, maybe some wildlife run around and you just see it immediately start to like hurt them. And you're like, that's where you should be doing that.
Yeah. Well, he's a, he's a, he, he needs to be leading men.
Yeah. Like it's hard, it's hard to be a leader of, of big, strong alpha men.
And he is like, in every room he's in, he is the alpha. Yeah.
And that's like hard to come by. And to come by and that's what you know where he belongs yeah and it's also just funny watching like football guys the amount of connections they have is just insane like he was just a there was a guy he'd coached who was you know who he saw there's a guy whose son uh he coached the kid's dad like all this stuff and it's just like football guys just have just connections everywhere i love the speech that he gave too i feel like he just he listened to meek mill like a month ago and he just wrote down i'm gonna talk about dreams well that's his speech his speech from the raiders uh hard knocks he like kind of put all his speeches together just being like the rock you know we pound that right you pound that rock it's not gonna break you pound that rock it's not gonna break all of us pound that rock that thing's gonna smash and everybody in the room was like he's right yes coach is right 10 from you 4 percent 2 from you okay number one everybody has dreams i mean everybody's got dreams of winning the big 10 getting into playoffs getting a new nil deal everybody has what dreams'm into nightmares.
You guys got to end people's dreams. You understand that? Miami, Ohio's coming in here in a couple months.
You end their dreams. Okay? And then you get on with the schedule.
But everybody's got dreams. Now it's your job to end those dreams and become a nightmare coming out of tunnel, yes.
Okay, number two is there's a thing called the team. It's called the what? The team.
There's a lot of people, I think, in football now that aren't invested in the team. Are we clear on that? I want you to envision a big rock right here.
The rock is the opponent, and if you pound that rock by yourself, that rock won't crack. If you pound a rock with them, that rock won't crack.
And that rock is Michigan. That rock is Alabama.
We all got a pound of what? Rock. We all got a pound of what? Rock.
Okay, invest in this team. In these next couple weeks before spring practice goes away, invest in your teammates, man.
Go out of your way to get to know each other and have a rock mentality. Point number three real quick is communication.
Say it with me. It ain't good enough.
It's not good enough anywhere. Coaches, we're not communicating good enough together.
Players and coaches don't communicate good enough together. Yes? Every blown coverage, every big running play, there's a lack of what on defense? Communication.
Recognize the set, make the call, and let's roll. Yeah? Yes, sir.
Well, let's communicate better. And then the last thing I'll leave you with is this.
What I've noticed is there's really good effort here.

Really good.

But there's a big difference between good and great.

Are we clear on that?

You get one shot at 2025.

That's it.

And as soon as you blink your eyes and open them, it's over.

We've got to do a better job, I think, of working together.

Yes?

Sir.

I'm talking about our effort, our execution, our enthusiasm, and our intensity. You turn it up 4%, 2%, 8%, 10%, and that accumulation is going to turn us into a freaking nightmare.
You guys dig it? Yes, sir. You guys believe in each other or not? Yes, sir.
Go prove it. All right? Let's go, man.
Let's have a great day. Let's go.
Oh, so pumped up. But yeah, it was great.
All right, let's get to our interview with Scott Van Pelt, live from Augusta Airport. Always fun to catch up with him, talk some more Masters, talk some more Rory.
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Okay, we now welcome on one of our best friends, a very, very special guest, live from Augusta, a tradition unlike any other, Scott Van Pelt from the Augusta Airport after the Masters. And we've been doing this for, I don't know, six, seven years.
Outside of the Tiger, this has got to be Tiger in 2019. This has got to be the best.
I mean, this was an incredible, incredible Sunday. I don't even know where to start other than I we all just sat there and watched it and was like sports are the best this is the best perfectly said did you feel like you're gonna vomit I did well about that you are technically talking to a room full of Rory haters so we we were very happy when this was all going down.
Now, as haters, we already taped the beginning of the show. Basically, what I said was sometimes as a hater, you got to tip your hat.
And I was happy that he had to earn it in a way where he choked and then came back and then he choked and then he came back. it's like, he did it.
He really did it. And I was satisfied at the end of being like, if he's going to do it one way, I'd rather this than having him win by six strokes and have it be a laugher.
Well, I look, you said it correctly. I mean, it was, it was a roller coaster as he described it.
And the thing that was nuts and you try to make put it in context like for sports center our highlight like our first pass at the highlight was 11 and a half minutes long and that's to tell the story like i think accurately and and thoroughly right where it's the dechambeau rory bit and like by the time it's over like you forget that even happened right DeChambeau's just kind of out there and it started with like he throws up on himself in the first hole and he's behind after the second hole and you're like this is nuts he's gonna lose to this guy again he's gonna have to walk with him for five hours this is gonna be brutal but then immediately he's back ahead and you're like okay here we go but it just it almost felt like with Roy for him to do it that it was gonna have to be this excruciating exercise where he would hit like the shot on 15 which is like the Sam Cassell meme right I mean big brave bulls and he swoops it around and But then you've got to make that putt for eagle.

Like Tiger makes that putt for eagle 100 times out of 100.

But he doesn't.

He just doesn't.

And then you're like, wait, Rose is – oh, shit, Rose has a birdie.

Oh, my God, they're tied again.

And now he hits the shot on 17, which is incredible.

No one ever hits it close on 17 when they have to make birdie to take the lead. He does.
Then he hits a perfect drive. And then that wedge on 18 is just, you can't do that.
And he does. And then there's that putt and you just, I didn't think he'd make it and he didn't.
And at that point I'm thinking this poor guy is going to have to live with this and he's going to become Greg Norman. And someday he's going to be 50 something something years old and he won't be here and we're going to wonder how that happened right but then but then he hits the wedge in in the playoff that's a forever shot like it's a shot of a lifetime yeah multiple yeah he had he had you just described two of his shots of a lifetime today yeah he had like it was an incredible incredible comeback for him uh after it was over you get to see a little behind the scenes scenes Scott you get to see what's going on when they're not on camera what was Rory's what was his mentality like did you see anything from him that showed relief or what were his emotions I think what he was feeling Patrick was relief I'm sorry if Dickie V calls me Patrick, my name's Patrick.
That's just how it goes. I've been waiting for weeks to say that.
He said it. It was almost all relief.
And the thing that Andy North described to me that I find amazing, but I guess I get it, is that when you do it, and Andy didn't win the Grand Slam, obviously, but he won a couple of majors, and he's like, you feel so much more relief than joy. And, like, when you saw him fall to his knees, and you saw him walking and just look like he was, like, I've seen that look before, but it was, PFT, it was you handing me mushrooms in the wind.
He's just like, and you're thinking, man, I just can't imagine what he's trying to process in real time. And he admitted that this was a burden.
This was a lot. He was carrying this around for more than 14 years and everyone's asking, what are you going to do? And every year he's got to come put on a brave face and say, well feel like I'm ready and then you know it looks like it's his time and then all of a sudden it's not and then it is and then it's not and so you know I'm waiting to see if I can if I hear from Marty Smith who's going to do the Sunday conversation uh with him tonight to get any insight like you know is there any sort of home run soundbite that he'd give Marty because they have got got a great relationship.
But I thought that it was so obvious that, sure, there's joy in there

and they're going to get to it.

But clearly it was like just thank God I did it.

Because if he didn't today, then it would have reasonably been like

it's just not meant to be.

It really was, even as haters like we said,

it was still one of those moments when he finally sinks the putt to win it

If you're not going to be. Yeah.
It really was, even as haters, like we said, it was still one of those moments when he finally sinks the putt to win it. It's like, man, this is cool.
Because you don't know. I mean, what's the stat? I think it's two times in the last 50 years we've had a career grand slam.
You don't know how many times it's going to happen in your lifetime. And, like, to put it, like, from your perspective of a golf aficionado, you've been to the Masters so many times, like, career grand slam, like, that's something really, really special.
Oh, I mean, I said it on SportsCenter. Like, you're in a group with people that are in black and white pictures that are gone from this earth.
Not forgotten, obviously, because the club is small. And it was really, like, one of the really cool things about this week is that the people you cross paths with and I actually got to spend some time uh Saturday night with Roger Federer who is just couldn't be he's couldn't be a greater guy and I I asked him and I said this is really wild to me like when you won in 2009 to beat uh to to won the French Open to win the Grand Slam, it was the sixth guy, just like Rory.
And Nadal had been beaten that. Like, that's the guy no one could beat.
And he got beaten by some guy named Robin Soderling. All due respect to Robin.
I could be an AWL. I don't know.
I just don't know. I don't know a lot about him.
But, like, that's the time where you have to do this or it's not going to happen and and fed said yeah man i call him fed we're like you know like that yeah uh he's like yeah he's like but you just have to remind yourself that this is what you do this is i've done this and just trust i was like yeah but how do you sleep that night he's like not well you know it's a lot and rory admitted he was nervous as hell this morning. And so to join this club, you're not just – like when CBS put the graphic up, I'm like, oh, God.
Yeah, right. It doesn't say to win the Masters.
It says to win the career Grand Slam. And he knows that.
And that's why I think that's why he didn't hit the hole the first time because the weight of that is just so immense. Yeah, I was wondering how he was going to handle that you know being tied for like playing the final group going into sunday when you go home on saturday if you're rory and you've got this history of blowing leads what do you do to because there's no chance that you're going to get a good night's sleep at that point right like you almost have to knock yourself out be like give me give me a sleeping pill at 7 p.m because otherwise i'm going to be i'm going to be staying up i'm not going to sleep at all i'm going to come into the course feeling like shit the next morning i can't imagine the night sleep that he had and then the start that he had today and then to bounce back from that i wonder what happened between holes one and two like how how he managed to to stop the slide at that moment did did you hear anything about that no i mean he just the the thing and and he didn't say this but but andy did and andy said i think actually he did say he said he said it almost was like a jolt that woke me up and all of a sudden the weird thing about golf i think we might have talked about this through the years is that for whatever reason reason, leading is just not what anyone wants to do.
It's almost like NASCAR. You'd rather draft off whoever until the last turn and then take the lead when it's over because it's a lot to carry the lead.
And the thing about the sleep that I get, I'm sure it wasn't easy, but the bigger issue is that it's such a long wait. You don't go off until 2.30 in the afternoon.
It's like, what do you do all day? You got a young daughter. She's up early, I'm sure.
You get up, hang out, wait. You could have breakfast, take a nap, work out, have lunch, and you still have two hours till you play.
And all you can do is think about the end and what happens at the end and how do you get to that and it takes all day to get there and all you're doing is thinking and so him being falling behind after the second hole you immediately saw what happens he birdies three DeChambeau bogeys he birdies four DeChambeau bogeys and then you're like okay cool he's got a little bit of a gap here and then he birdies nine and ten and you're like we're off to the races no it was just never going to be easy so um I mean but I don't know the days here tend to always be memorable but like the back and forth and the playoff and the fact that it's Rose I mean the whole thing is just an incredible, incredible day of drama here. And I don't know,

I'm still trying to make sense of it all.

Yeah. I mean, I said at the start of the show,

it was the most schizophrenic 18 holes for, for Rory, where he had,

I think he, his final tally was six birdies, three bogeys,

and two double bogeys. He just,

the card was the disaster. There's just squares, circles,

like it doesn't look like it does not look like a winning scorecard.

Thank you. three bogeys, and two double bogeys.
Yeah, the card was a disaster. There's just squares, circles.
It does not look like a winning scorecard. Right, right.
And so in 18, you just said that you kind of expected him to miss that first putt on 18 to go to the playoffs. So you thought in the moment, like, this is – he's still got one more mountain to climb where it's like he's still got one more, I don't want to say choke, but like it did feel like that where it would be one step forward and two steps back.
I did. Because it felt like it was that distance.
And like the shadows show you every little bump and imperfection in these greens, which are basically perfect. And I'm sure that it must have looked a mile long.
And the reason I thought that is because, not because I didn't think he was capable, it's just the weight of what it was. And he admitted it.
And then you saw it with how he reacted after the fact. I mean, it was just this boulder on his back.
And that putt, as we're looking at it, and again, it's fun to watch with Andy because he's like, this is actually, it's an easier bunker shot because it's on an upslope. And like, this is, you get this up and down seven or eight out of 10 times for sure.
Like, he should be close. And then as it runs out of steam, we both look at each other and are like, oh, this is in that range where, I mean, a normal human would poop their pants yeah but like full-on poop pants yeah but i you know he didn't he didn't poop his pants but he didn't hit the hole much either and you're like oh my god but to his credit you know he says caddy just said to him going back to the t um you'd have taken you'd have taken this on monday if i told of Monday Monday we'd be going back to the playoff on Sunday

and by the way, that's somebody

that you want and that's a foxhole

guy right there. Right.
Yeah, his caddy

has known him forever since he was seven years old.

Yeah. Big time foxhole guy

there would be like, hey, we'd have taken the

as opposed to

hey, Bozo, we should be putting

a jacket on right now and you should be

in the Butler Cabin with Jim

and Scotty and Chairman Ridley. Instead of that, like, you give him an attaboy and say, look, we're good.
And then he was. I mean, in the end, I suppose in some ways it just makes it more dramatic.
Maybe it makes it more fulfilling, cathartic. I don't know.
But, like, he was an all-time player player forever. But again, you join pictures, it's guys that aren't alive anymore in black and white pictures, Jack, Tiger, and me.
That's the club. Right.
It's a pretty good club. It's pretty insane.
And what about the shot on 15? I mean, can you put it into perspective? Because Nance did say on the call, he said shot of a lifetime. It did feel like that was another one of those moments where he goes in the water and then he has that shot and you're like, he's just battling this.
And that was an incredible, incredible shot. But like you say, you know, you're watching a lot of it with Andy North Badger.
No big deal. What, what put that shot into perspective and how hard that shot is.
Hold on. Let me do it.
Let me do it. Is that it? Yeah, there we go.
Oh, actually, keep the phone like that. That's perfect because it won't travel around.
There you go. W for Wisconsin.
Yeah, it's a shot of a lifetime. But, again, for it to be like the shot we talk about forever, you got to make the eagle and then you don't go to a playoff and then that's the that's the shot we put uh on video and roll forever instead it'll be him on his knees just sobbing but um the like i thought he hit it too far left but all that did and again andy just gives such great context he said when you're hitting a hook it actually is it puts you in a position to as he described you're going to release the club because you're i can't technically describe it but he just said that it's it benefited him to be hitting a hook and as soon as he hit it he's walking after it like he did yesterday right and when rory starts bouncing and the shoulders start bouncing down the fairway that's when you know like oh shit here we go and i mean he when he stuffs it in there like that like make the putt and you and it's curtains it wasn't but then the shot on 17 was just as good yeah but then on 18 as this is the roller coaster in the you know it's sort of what he does and as bad as the wedge on 18 was in regulation the wedge in the playoff was you know up right up on the up the the little slope there pulls it back and you know i if rose makes the putt do you think he makes the second one uh i don't know i don't think so although that was more of a it was more of a give me i i agree with you that the initial shot that he had on 18 that is the worst distance to have to putt for a major championship from because it's enough to make you think about it.
I would rather putt from like two feet behind that because then you have that little aggressiveness in your mind. Like, I can make this.
I can prove the haters wrong. When you're putting from like four feet, you're thinking, oh, fuck, the haters might be right the entire time.
And it's kind of, PT pt the distance that you can't even deliver the line without laughing like that's how you know you're a dumbass when you laugh at your own stupid no it's good it's good before we started taping he called me pdf which i'm very glad that he didn't say that i'm punting on the bit you're 100 right because it was like the distance at pinest, and it's different because the last one on Pinehurst was downhill and it breaks left to right for a right-hander. That's the worst putt because you just – but it was in that distance where it was uncomfortable.
And like the Rose putt is the perfect length because you've got to hit it. And the birdie putt he made, I'm talking in regulation, like you've got to hit it, and he let it go.
And by the and by the way he knew it was then he had his hat off early and look that was a confident look from rose and he's an awesome guy who at 44 lost in a playoff twice here yeah and if he would have won it would have been an incredible story but there wasn't one human rooting for him because everyone here just wanted to see except the haters yep did haters. Did you have a Rose future? No, we didn't.
We just, listen, we liked the storylines, and Rory choking in that way would have been hilarious. Yeah, I was happy.
I was, okay. We tipped our cap.
Like, all credit to him. I think the moment is incredible.
He's an all-time golfer. I was, like, a little emotional watching him be emotional, but if you asked me during it, like, we predicted on friday we said we had ryan whitney on he's like if there's a five footer on 18 if he misses he goes to a playoff if he hits it he's a master's champion what are you rooting for i was like absolutely playoff 100 that said i was rooting for him after he got into the playoff to win but i'm not gonna lie i was missed that putt because it's like, number one, free golf.
Number two, our dumb brains can continue on with the storyline of Rory can't win a big one at Augusta. I mean, you were there.
What was the vibe like? Because when I was watching on TV, I got the sense as Rory was falling back and Rose was coming on, I got the sense the the patrons were a little bit excited to see maybe an epic collapse from rory and maybe or at least have it be interesting at the end i i hear what i think everyone's just like oh we get to stay and we get to watch more and i think there there's something to it'll be cool to see a playoff because's that, you just take what's the drama of the day and you add another layer we didn't know we were going to get. So that I'll give you.
But like every time, and CBS did an awesome job showing it, every time they would post on the leaderboard the score and you saw Rory like double 13 and everyone's like, you saw like hands, surrender Cobra hands on head, like, Oh no. And then when they post the birdie on 17, everyone goes nuts because they know he's coming to this hole and we get to welcome him home and it's going to be great.
And then he puts it in the bunker and then they're like, you gotta be kidding me. Right.
I mean, so the, the, the, the back and forth was like the drama builds, but I, if you like, there was a lot ofory rory chants and they were wanting to see it and then in the end they did and again i think it's not just somebody wins the masters every year like no one's won the grand slam since tiger and that's been a long time all stacked on top of another and who it was and because he'd been through all these things, this is the guy that more people than not on the grounds were absolutely behind. And it was his day.
And it is a great story. Do you think that Rory, this is like a Steve Young monkey off his back where I know he obviously has been phenomenal recently in great form, but it had been 11 years.
Do you think he's going to get hot here and you're going to see you know another masters another major where he just like this is kind of breaking the valve or breaking the seal so to speak 100 and i mean i'm sure that he would say well i mean i won at pebble and i won the players this year already i won the players before but the the counter to that is cool you've got more money than than you need anyway and those tournaments ultimately in the grand scheme don't matter and we count majors among the very best right and i so what while the wins before were great this is this is the damn burst that now frees him up to be truly like, fuck it. I'm going to go do like, I mean, think about it in a way where now no one can say anything to you.
And someone says, Hey Roy, shut your, shut your mouth. You're coming off stupid.
Like I just won the masters and I'm good. I'm house house money.
No, he's got a ton of runway in front of him. He could stack three or four more of these.
Quail Hollow has won four times, which is where they go next. So I think we tend to have this recency bias where whoever wins, we say they might win a few more.
But in Rory's case, unburdened from this, he could just let it rip forever. And if he's got nothing, what's the Joker line in the Dark Knight? You have nothing to threaten me with.
Right. And the way he did it, too, the way he did it.
Like, I really do think it would be different if he had run away from this. When that moment happens on 10, I believe, and he's four strokes ahead of Justin Rose.
And you're like, all right, this is it.

This is a coronation.

But to have the ups and downs and the chokes and the comebacks,

like he really did do it in a way that it feels like he just freed himself

from everything.

I do think there's something to that.

It'd be like if someone had a lead in a Super Bowl and then they blew it,

but then they won it in overtime.

It'd be like it's almost like you won it twice. You know what I mean? Right.
And then with Roy, it almost feels like you won it three times. I know.
It's just like he had it, then they blew it, but then they wanted an overtime and be like, it's almost like you want it twice. You know what I mean? Right.
And then roar with Roy, it almost feels like he won it three times. I know it's like he had it.
Then he blew it. Then he takes the lead on 15.
Then he makes it on 17. It's almost like four times, whatever it is.
All he needed was one. He did it.
And, um, I don't know. I'm just, I'm happy for him.
Like I, I get the haters. No, we're happy for him.
Listen, I, we explained it, you're watching golf, you have guys you root for and guys you don't. That's okay.
How about Max? How about Max? Positive vibes only. Our good friend Max.
Who's taking credit for this? Because this is the start of the championship DVD. We had him on first this week, then you obviously did Wednesday with him.
So who gets credit? He said I was one of his favorites. I said, who do you like more? And he's like, Big Cat and PFT.
All third. That's good.
So Max, yeah, incredible week for Max. Incredible week for...
Hey, by the way, we were talking about this. Have you ever talked to the marker? Yeah, he's the...
McDermott? Yeah, of mine yeah you can't you can't he can't talk to the media though but like is that not the coolest job ever he's a fantastic guy uh he's very very understated and i know that he enjoyed himself um and it it was a cool weekend for him yeah wait wait so he is talking to the media oh not i did there was no interview there was there was no i just know him so so he talked to you sounds like there might be uh an opening for the marker hank we're trying to get hank that gig no uh but it does seem like a very cool job did has he ever mentioned anything about how he shouldn't play too good because he doesn't want to like take undermine anybody's confidence out there this is it's actually kind of a fascinating concept like the story goes back ironically enough about the the guy jeff knox that was the marker um before the current guy that does it and i i believe that google check fact check me on this because i believe that he played with rory one year yes and the story went that they were like all right let's play it and see how it goes and he beat rory yeah and and but the the marker's there to just be like look i'm here to keep pace if you want me to put out i will if you don't i won't like whatever i'm just here so that you and it's actuallya national thinks of everything. And they don't want the player to be in a gigantic rush or feel compelled to have to hurry, take your time.
And so that's the, the job of the marker who obviously is also a really good player. Um, but again, the story goes that like Knox and Rory played and I think he beat him.
Um, and so, you know, worked out okay for Rory because I don't think the marker never won the Masters and today Rory did. But yeah, I know he's an awesome dude.
Awesome, awesome guy. He's a good vibes guy because we noted that Tom Kim and Brian Campbell had their best rounds this week when playing with the marker.
There you go. get any, uh, conclusion to the amateur that, uh, Pete and Ray's Creek, is he, is he in El Salvador? What's going on? I don't, I'm not sure what happened there.
I think that there was a, he thought he had cover and then there was applause at the conclusion. And I mean, I would, I don't know, but I would guess that maybe you just say hey just so you know there's actually there's a bathroom there on 13 right behind that tee yeah so maybe maybe next time maybe try that yeah we thought that the worst crime was him wearing the upside down sun devil's hat yep that was a worse look for augusta yeah that's a new thing that like you know that, like a lot of, last couple years,

like the cool club started doing the hats with the big,

whatever the word is, like a big word for your club.

But the new thing is the upside down hats.

I'm old and I'm out of it.

I don't know what the trends are, but apparently that's the new one.

It's a Jeep thing.

You wouldn't understand.

We didn't like it.

It's like the bumper sticker that says,

if you can read this, flip me over on a Jeep.

Yeah.

Yeah. What about Scotty? Obviously didn't get it done.
I felt like maybe I was reading too much into it. The way he got out of there after the Rory putting on the green jacket, I feel like he's going to be on revenge tour.
I think this is the thing about Scott. And I did a bad job today because I thought when DeChambeau hit it in the water on 11, I'm like, oh, we're done here.
I lost track of Oberg and Rose and didn't even realize that they had a chance to do what they did. And all of a sudden here they came.
Scheffler felt like he didn't play great, right? Fourth. Right.
Like that's how good that guy is. Didn't really feel like it felt a little bit off still finished fourth um revenge tour i mean scotty's good i don't think he's not the sort of dude that's wired for revenge but probably will win a bunch of tournaments between now and the end of the year for sure but i think like the guy that doesn't win you just want to get the hell out of the way and let whoever has his moment particularly when it's rory like have the moment to himself yeah yeah what about What about Rory on 13 when he found the water after he laid up? That was one of the worst shots that I've seen by a major champion, maybe ever.
So just how bad was that shot? You can't do it. Can't miss like that.
Like I hated the layup. And the reason I hated the layup, even though he executed the layup obviously obviously perfect until he hit it in the water, is that there's a saying that I've heard coaches, and I always go back to Gary Williams at Maryland, and he said, if you play a certain way to build a lead, and then you play completely different to protect the lead, you end up often giving up your lead because you played a certain way.
There's a certain level of aggression. Rory hit a really nice drive on 13.
And I get it. You don't want to bring a big number into play with a second shot to try to get to the green, but he could have gotten to the green.
And obviously, in retrospect, if you know you're going to hit in the water, you would have tried to go for the green in two anyway. But wedge game has been always been Rory's weakest part of his game you saw it on 18 in regulation and he had 82 yards like that's a pitching putt swing for anyone and he managed to let it leak right and make the one mistake he couldn't make um but I mean it didn't kill him in the end I mean he made four doubles that's the most anyone's ever made to win the Masters.
But that swing, the swing on 18 and regulation, those are the moments that you're like, I can't believe he's going to do this again. But then he goes in the bag and pulls out magic time and time again.
It really was incredible. It was one of the most memorable Masters I can remember, just sitting there the entire afternoon being like, I have to stay glued to this.
I'm not even going to take a piss because I want to watch every shot. You went piss dogs? I went piss dogs.
I would love to have gone piss dogs. I went piss dogs.
All right, Scott. Can I ask you one? Yeah.
I'm just genuinely curious because you guys know I've told you this. I said it with Russillo this week that, like, this is my favorite week of the year.
I love it. Being here for a million reasons.
Like, this weekend was incredible. The weather's perfect.
The people here are awesome. The story today was awesome.
Like, do you guys – today was great, but, like, is this an event you guys like? I mean, is it something you guys look forward to? Oh, yeah, yeah to oh i love i love masters week absolutely up there in terms of the sports calendar it's like you know if you do the sports calendar i mean all of football season but for sure i mean march madness masters uh world series like it's it's absolutely in there the top you know whatever you want to say hey here's six things that you can't miss. Masters are absolutely in there every single year.
Sports

draft. What? That's on it.

Sports draft.

That's a good one.

You know what everyone asked me about all week long?

We got to take a walk,

boys. Let's do it.
All right. So wait, I have

a, let me cue up the last question, but

hold on, Scott. Well, no, no, no.

Let's do this first. I'll do, when you go back,

I'll do the last question. Let's see

it. This is, this is., Scott.
No, no, no. Okay, go ahead.
Let's do this first.

When you go back, I'll do the last question.

Okay, hold on. Let's see it.

All right.

I waited.

Hold on.

I need to tell you where I was first because I didn't think it.

I've been greeting you from the Pop Newman conference room here in Augusta.

Now I'm going to stroll down and let's see it.

Great disappointment. Oh, no.
What are the options here? Now I'm going to stroll down and let's see it.

Great disappointment.

Oh, no.

What are the options here?

Nope.

Oh.

You know what, Scott?

Maybe next year.

Wait, what's that in the middle?

The Ruger?

Ruger.

Is that a gun? I don't even know what that is.

Scott, maybe next year.

Apparently it's a delicious vanilla wafer.

We got the jumbo honey buns and we got the Mrs. Freshly's donut sticks.
But there's no Big Texas. But there is my guy here who – I don't want to rub it in, Scott.
Yeah, maybe next year you skip Augusta and you just come to the PMT studios. Oh, there we go.
Hank's got a whole box of them. We got a whole box of them.
We got two. We got Hank.
We'll probably throw them out. Look at Hank just smashing Big Texas.
Look at this. We got the whole Big Texas.
We got to get this sponsored by Big Texas next year. That's good.
That's good. That is so good.
How would you describe the density of that? Oh, it's so dense. It's a hockey puck.
It's, yeah, it's dense. It's very dense.
Yet airy. Yeah.
430 calories. Enjoy.
And that's just what you, the density is what you want to put in your stomach. Look at this.
We got a whole big Texas. Hey, Max, enjoy our basketball coach, buddy.
Yeah, Max. Oh, yeah, Max.
You got to go back in the room right now real quick because Scott's got to go, but you've got to answer this real quick. No, it's fine.
Again, we're good. I'm sure...
We're buzzed guys. Hey, did you see that all across Maryland Twitter the clips that buzzes a dog, buzzes the guy was all PMT interview.
We love Buzz. Because we love him.
It was being used all the time because he's the best. Yeah, I mean, sending out notes as we speak.
Right. Max, do you want to say sorry for stealing Scott's coach? No, I think we're both in a good spot.
I think all as well that has end well with Maryland and Villanova. Has it ended well? Kind of.
You didn't win the crown? The coaching search has ended. No, this is actually like the start.
Yeah, this is the start of the blood. You're confused about the start and the end.
I hope that there's a little Maryland-Villanova rivalry. I would love to do a home and home.
Okay. So do we.
Oh, I love it. I love it.
All right. My last question, Roback question.
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It's actually a guest question because, and you mentioned this, you said that this is your favorite week of the year. Yep.
Is that because you don't have to spend any time with Stanford Steve? He was wondering. Because that's hurtful.
No, I want him here. The people want him here.
I'm going to build a groundswell to have him here. This is not real.
Yeah, he's going to show up. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm here with Scott.
And I'm like, we don't know what you're talking about. And you're going to be on the other side of the gate, and you're going to be like, oh, Steve, I'm sorry.
I thought I put your name on. No, it's perfect because you know that he's not going to get there.
So you're doing the whole, I'm going to start a movement to get Steve here. Oh, we'd love to have you here.
So that you get the credit for starting the movement, but you know at the end of the day, this is your week. This is like taking time away from the family.
Why are you trying to drive away? He asked me. He literally texted me.
I missed him. He texted me.
He's my favorite human. And I want him to come here because he's become like Mr.
Golf. When we go to Quail Hollow next month, we're going to be fairways he's going to have a sweat towel cooking and he should be here he would love it he would love everything about this week steve would do some damage on the barbecue sandwiches and two dollar light yeah he would yeah absolute carnage steve i mean yes we have to fix that so all right we'll get all right look the work starts right now okay starts today he – I'm going – he texted me, said, you taped Scott yet? I said, we just started.
He said, this is his favorite week of the year. He says it all the time.
Is it because he doesn't have to see or be around me? What is that about? Like, I love him. Hey, listen, he's the one that graduated to game day and, like, we got to – Oh, there we go.
Yeah. Oh, I like this.
I like this. Somebody's hanging with Coach Saban and, you know, Pat and Herbie and Reese and can't be bothered to hang out with little old me.
I'm only on at midnight, you know. I'm not kicking it off at noon.
You know what this is? This is something that we go through. Like when you have a week off from each other, by the Sunday, you're like, man, I miss my bud.
I think that's what he was doing. He was texting me like, get back, Scott.
We miss you. Well, I'm going to hop on a plane and go home, and I believe Steve's on vacation, so he doesn't miss me that bad because he's not going to be there when we get back.
Okay. He's just trying to find some strange since you left him.
He's going to start a podcast on a cruise trip with somebody yeah he's going to a fling he's saying we we get we get a shot of stanford steve in uh in cabo with jim rome we're like what the hell racket all right that's fine i hope he has fun uh all right are we good yeah you're the best scott thank you as always uh sorry you didn't get a big get a big Texas. I want to tell you this.
Thank you to you guys for having me on. You know how much I love it.
And it should warm all of our hearts how many people I see out here at Augusta National who only say, I can't wait to see you on with the boys tonight. Big Texas, blah, blah, blah.
So this is on the long list of traditions. Like, this became one.
So I look forward to it. And one year, we're actually going to go to Augusta, and we'll do the show in the Pop Newman room with you live.
Yeah, we won't go to the tournament. We'll just hang out at the airport.
Yeah. And then we'll just wait for you.
You should. There'll be a blast and a lot of

people coming through. No, you should come to

the tournament, though. It's worth seeing.

And you can come with Steve and we can eat barbecue

sandwiches. That sounds good.
Yeah, Hank's now

saying, please, he's going to text me tomorrow morning

and be like, did you follow up with Scott about going

to the Masters? It sounded like there were more

birds there this year. Is that something you picked up

on in person? The birds seem louder.

Yeah, I heard a lot of chirps. A lot of birds.
lot of squirrels though don't see me yeah interesting biz has a theory about that yeah all right thanks scott appreciate it love you boys be good until next time thanks scott scott van pelt was brought to you by brecks this episode is brought you by Brex. Every company is learning to get more from their dollars these days.

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done for the season okay quick monday reading before we do lottery ball uh there was a really

good uh story on golf.com uh let me shout out the writer of james colgan wrote about the only

master story jim nance won't tell so there's a really good story go read it on golf.com but

I'm not. let me shout out the writer of James Colgan wrote about the only master story Jim Nance won't tell.
So it was a really good story. Go read it on golf.com.
But I wanted to bring it up because I finally feel at peace with the Jim Nance toast. Remember we had the issue where we thought it was maybe a prank, maybe not a prank, his toast style.
So it turns out. Wait, just that it was a prank that he would keep a picture in it? Keep a card.
Yeah, keep a card of his toast because he likes extra burnt. He would allegedly show it to servers.
Correct. Like, when I order toast, this is how I want it.
And you thought that was fake. So there was someone...
Who do we have on that was like, isn't that a prank? It was Raftery. Yeah, Raftery thought it was pranked.
But I've heard that it's real. Raftery said he'd never seen the card and he was like, I don't know if that's real.
He might have been pranking. He probably doesn't have breakfast.
He's probably, you know, Raftery might get up at 10 a.m. True.
So the card is a prank, but he does like his toast Nance style, and he calls it Nance style. Oh, I love that.
So we got to the bottom of it. So this reporter went to a diner with him out in Carmel, California, Pebble Beach.
And when he walked in, he said, I'll do the toast Nance style. And the waitress was a newer waitress there and said, and by Nance style, you mean? And he just said, oh, just put it through the toaster twice.
So they got into like the origin of this. So he loves his toast extra burnt.

And apparently he was doing one of these stories like 10 years ago with a reporter kind of embedded with him.

And that's where the prank comes in.

So his longtime assistant, let me find, okay, here we go.

Nance finds the whole ordeal deeply funny,

if only because the actual origin of the legend was a prank. The wallet photo was a gag gift from Nance's longtime assistant, Melissa Miller.
Yoakum, a longtime friend and co-author, was the target when the two met for breakfast to conduct an interview for a forthcoming master story. Nance ordered his special brand of toast.
He does like it crispy, so that's confirmed, with his laminated wallet card. And he told to the reporter, I made sure the reporter saw the card.
And when he asked about it, I said, well, that card has saved me a lot of hours. I told guy, do the math with me.
I eat toast six days a week, which by the way, I eat toast once about once a month is him talking now. The toast comes out and it's not done.
Now the eggs come out, but the toast has got to be sent back because it's not burned so now i finished my eggs but i've lost 10 minutes waiting 10 minutes six days a week that's an hour a week now there's 52 weeks in a year i'm rounding down that i'm saving two days a year so that was how the whole thing happened so it was a joke and then the reporter saw it the reporter wrote it up as they didn't fact check the joke. He loves his toast, extra toasty, but the actual card was a joke on a reporter.
It sounds like the joke was not really a joke. It was like, here, Jim, this will actually save you time.
And then Jim was like, oh, that's so funny. Yeah.
But it was like one of those serious ha-ha jokes. Yeah, but I'm happy we got to the bottom of it.
Do we have to question the tie? No, the tie's real. The tie is real.
Giving away the tie was real. We saw it and he got shamed.
Yeah, it was real because he was angry that the story got out. Yes.
He was like, that's supposed to be just a nice behind the scenes thing. Yeah.
How much do you think Jim Nance gets paid? A lot. I think he gets paid more than you think he does.
Were you guys a little sad at the end of the Masters today? Like, we only have 10 more of these?

I was.

Yeah.

Is it 10 or 11?

11.

Sorry, 11 more of these.

Don't cut us short, please.

We have 11 more of these.

That's going to go by in a blink.

I'm going to guess Jim Nance gets 15 million a year.

I would say more.

I was going to say 20.

I mean, he does NFL and Masters.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah.

So probably 35 million. Yeah, he gets a lot.
Good for good for him yeah how many more shots of a lifetime in 11 years six two well i think every player it could it could be 11 because every player can have their own shot of a life true it's not rory can't is it jim nance doesn't say shot of lifetime. Yeah, Rory can't have another one.
He even had two. Yeah, he did.
Alright, finish up numbers, by the way. I'll do three.
You got it. You can have it.
I don't care who has it. Who has it? Who got it? I got it.
No, PFT got it. PFT got it.
I'll take four. I'll take five.
Someone at the airport gave SUP a big Texas, so he did get his. Love that.
Yeah, he just texted us. He's like, update, someone handed me this.
So he got his big Texas. I'll take 11.
Minus 11. What's Rory's? What's something Rory's number? He was minus 11.
Oh. He shot 73 today.
He is. 73.

He's his fifth major.

What is he, 35 years old?

99.

Fifth major?

I thought it was his fourth.

Fuck.

44.

I think it's his fifth.

No, I just assumed four.

No, he won the US Open twice.

Why were you that broken up about that, Mims?

I don't know.

He tied Brooks?

No, no, he was just like, fuck.

I want to get it.

I want to get it today.

A major. All right, everyone say their numbers again four three eleven seventy three you are never gonna get it somebody how many majors will rory have before memes gets it uh seven yeah i'm gonna yeah i'm gonna say seven as well 44 seven's probably a safe bet get to at least two years well how should we do a punishment if Rory gets to seven majors before Memes gets a number?

Yeah, I think we should punish him.

Memes has to play Augusta until he shoots a 73.

Done.

You can't leave, though.

You can't stop playing.

You have to move to...

And you can't get...

We're not going to get you on.

You have to just...

No, it's got to be on the simulator.

We'll just find a simulator.

You'll be on the simulator.

You have to get married and divorced and then married again.

Okay.

The same woman.

Yeah.

Memes is never going to get it.

90.