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Out in Tahoe last week.

We're going to talk some sports.

We have the Homer and Derby coming up on Monday night.

Real shame that Christian Yelch is not competing.

Damn shame.

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We had Wimbledon final.

We had whatever that soccer tournament final was.

Yep.

We had the MLB draft.

We're going to do who's back of the week.

We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of Worse Places to Be When You're Violently Hung Over.

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Zach responds to a DM on Instagram.

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Today is Monday, July 14th.

I almost said Wednesday, boys.

These days kind of run together when we don't have any big sports moments, but it happens.

We can mistake a Tuesday for a Friday.

Yeah, Tuesday for a Friday.

We do have the home run derby.

And last we talked to you, we were finishing up chill week out in Tahoe, so we recorded early in the day on that Thursday, and it hadn't been finalized who was going to be in the home run derby.

It is now finalized.

There is no Christian Yellich.

We did it one more year of keeping our tongues out of each other's buttholes.

The Sickos and perverts are besides themselves.

And when I say sickos and perverts, I'm talking about one memes.

Yep, this is very, very disappointing to you, memes.

Was Jazz Chisholm the last guy that they put in?

Jazz Chisholm.

And then Olson.

And also Olson.

Yeah, okay.

Matt Olson.

Was it Kuna who got hurt?

And then Olson.

Or no.

Yeah, Cunya is being replaced by Matt Olson.

Yeah, by Matt Olson.

Both from the Braves.

Yes, we have friends in the show.

We have Cal Rowley.

We have Matt Olsen.

James Wood.

It's going to be a great, great home run.

And you know what's great is it's good for the sport not to have people associate the home run derby with Anna Lingus.

Yes, I'd agree.

I also have a gift that was given to us that I would like to present to you guys

ahead of the home run derby.

Okay.

Pretty cool.

This truly is the best sports weekend of the year that we just went through.

It was amazing.

Oh, that's awesome jersey.

Hank, PFT, and I got big dumper signed jerseys.

We got to put these up in, maybe we just put them up in every room.

I love that.

Yeah.

So we are going to be rooting for Cal Raleigh.

The big dumper signed jerseys.

This one's yours, PFT.

Oh, sweet.

Yeah.

Big dumper.

Look at that.

Big dumper.

Memes' response in the booth was they should be eating dumpers instead of this.

Oh, memes, that's disgusting.

That is disgusting.

Hank, here's your big dumper.

This is awesome.

So we got to put this up in the studio.

I think if Big Dumper wins, memes, you got to show ass.

I just love that he actually signed it, Big Dumper.

Yeah, that's great.

With an exclamation point.

So he's happy to sign it.

This is Big Dumper.

That's good for the sport.

We got some bright young stars.

But yeah, Big Cal, when you were introing the show, I just thought to to myself, what a great sports weekend this year.

We had the soccer thing, the tournament thing

that was on a soccer field.

We had...

Still don't understand.

It was just clubs?

Club something.

We had the World Cup of clubs.

Clubs.

We had the baseball draft,

which was very exciting.

Yep.

One thing I will say about baseball fans, though, they understand the assignment when it comes to just straight up booing the commissioner.

Yeah.

He went out there, he took 32 booze to the face, or how I think they went two rounds.

Yeah.

So we just got booed nonstop.

And then, yeah, just what a magical weekend.

Wimbledon.

Wimbledon, which I

watched three sets of.

Yeah, it was a great weekend.

Great sports weekend.

Great sports weekend.

My favorite weekend of the year.

Where do we want to start?

Are we all going to just bet Cal Rowley to...

The only problem I have with Cal Rowley in the home run derby is his dad is pitching to him.

Now, his dad was a coach,

an acclaimed coach, but I always get a little nervous about that.

Remember, Brian Harper's dad did that a few years ago?

I would rather have it be the guy who pitches you batting practice every single day.

Because at some point, if it's your dad, he's going to enter the mindset of like, I can't let my son just tee off on me like this.

Not only that, but I do think that when it's your dad,

I think his brother is catching.

So that's very cool.

But is it too cool?

It might be too, it might, the moment might be too special.

It's like, we're here.

This is incredible.

It's all gravy after that.

No, no, no.

Cal, we want you to win this thing.

But according to the Oedipus con, was it the complex?

Yeah.

The Oedipus complex, you should want to take your dad deep all day.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, that should be the thing that every man has inside them.

Like, I want to take my dad yards.

So maybe that will work.

And then I think maybe sprinkle a little Matt Olson just because we'll just bet on our friends.

I'm going to sprinkle some James Wood, too.

Okay.

James Woods.

Okay.

Yeah, so then we have the.

Oh, we also had for the All-Star game on Tuesday night,

a little bit of controversy.

Max's Phillies were very upset that there was a late addition from the Milwaukee Brewers.

Yeah.

Max, you're being a baby about it.

The Miz.

He has five career games.

And how many strikeouts?

Like a billion.

Way less than Christopher Sanchez and Ranger Suarez.

So that's who you're mad about?

Yeah, Christopher Sanchez technically, it's a very stupid rule, but you cannot be replaced by a guy who's pitching on Sunday in like an MLB all-star rule.

Okay.

Which is bullshit because the guys should still be recognized.

They get bonuses.

Like, that's unfair.

But Ranger Suarez has a sub-2 ERA with

three times the amount of starts as this miser as this Miserowski guy how do you possibly look at that and be like this guy is more deserving than Ranger Suarez I don't know it makes no sense I don't

yeah I don't think deserving is the right word I think why why since when is it

since when is being deserving not a thing for all star games but I'm saying this move is not deserving because you're right this guy only has what you said five starts but he does throw the ball like a million miles an hour

want to tune in and try to grow the game people want to watch

like this guy throws the ball so fast so hard and he's had a great start to his career yeah i'm a miserowski guy i don't even know how to say his name it's not because the brews are right i the they're they're good again misery business problem whatever it is this guy this guy's fun to watch by the way i just want to say as a side uh for anyone who ever thinks that max is like doing some type of bit i can attest he's not because he was screaming about ranger sword as his era in the pool yesterday when we were hammered and it was like way too loud for everyone around he's like he has a 194 era so this is who he is all the time yeah all the time but who's gonna tune in to watch ranger suarez over misery not me not me misrowski is he puts asses in seats i don't even think we're tuning in because we're going to be doing our home run derby that's right but if if i were to tune in it would be because of misery rowski yeah dude he's got a 281 era that's pretty good

Five games.

Anti-polish.

Suarez has a 194

in 13 games.

33 strikeouts.

Yeah, it is.

Listen, Max, it's the all-star game.

It's a popularity contest.

They're trying to add someone.

It's not a vote.

So they're like, let's add the guy that will get a pop.

That's what they're doing.

You can't blame MLB for doing that.

They're trying anything to get more eyeballs.

They want a phenomen in there.

Five starts is insane.

You can just root for him to be bad, and then we can all, and then you'll look at it.

I now hate this guy.

I now want this guy to be the biggest bust in MLB history.

They also, in the all-star game, they're going to have the automated ball strike system.

Oh, okay.

So we're going to get robot umps for the first time.

Cool.

All-star game.

Wait, are the real umps going to be there?

I think they're going to be there, but they're going to use the AI system.

Got it.

Yeah.

All right.

So, yeah, that's our MLB.

And then we had the draft.

The baseball draft.

Which is always fun because it's like you draft a guy and then you have to hope that he'll sign.

Yeah.

So the Nats.

You're going to draft a high schooler and be like, please come take this money.

The Nats had the first overall pick.

I think everybody expected they were going to go with a pitcher from LSU or they were going to go with a holiday.

Yeah.

There's another holiday.

They went with neither of the two.

In fact, if you would bet on them this morning, I think one of them was like plus 200, the other was like plus 300.

And the guy that they ended up drafting, Eli Willits, was in the any other player category.

Oh.

After there were like seven players that they listed.

Oh.

So then I had to do a crash course on why, I had to learn why in baseball, you don't always draft the best guy if you have the first overall pick.

Because you partially need them to be able to sign.

It would help if the Nationals drafted a player who was not represented by Scott Boris, who has just bent them over for the last 10 years repeatedly.

Correct.

So I think we drafted this guy because we're afraid of Scott Boris.

And also because we had to pay.

King Stay King, Scott Boris.

Big time king.

Yeah.

Like, put that pelt on your wall, Scott.

But apparently you draft a player because you have a set allotment of money that you can give as signing bonuses.

So if you take a guy first overall that was projected to go eighth, ninth, or tenth overall, they'll be like, yeah.

Then you can pay him less money, less than the $11 million that was slotted.

And then you'll have more money later on to entice high school kids to come play for you instead of them saying, no, thanks, I'd rather go to college.

Yeah.

That's my general understanding of why you don't always take the

weird system you got there, baseball.

Yeah, it is a little weird.

And there's like 50 rounds.

Yeah, and then I saw who the Phillies got, and the first thing that went through my mind when I saw who the Phillies got

was this was the fucking how he did it again.

Yeah.

Like this is a classic Eagles move.

You got one of the best pitchers in baseball that fell to you.

And didn't he have, like, did he have a game in College World Series where he gave up no hits?

Yeah, that was a complete game, no hitter.

No hitter.

19 strikeouts.

No hitter.

That's right.

Correct.

He gave up no hits.

That is correct.

This one player pitched nine innings.

It is funny.

19 strikeouts.

In baseball, it's like, all right.

199.

That's a memorable one.

A holiday.

The guy who did the Coke celebration at third base.

Those are pretty much the stories.

Yep.

That's our MLB draft recap.

It's good.

We crushed it.

Do you guys want to talk about Wimbledon?

Sure.

Cinder won.

And he's a cheater.

Center is a cheater.

He's bullshit.

Because Jokovich would have won.

People forget that Center cheated, got caught.

Yep.

Got put back in.

Alcaraz won the first set.

And then, you know what?

I'm just going to go full on ESPN for this segment.

Just pretend this is the NBA Finals.

Alcaraz needed to step up in the third set.

Yeah.

He didn't step up.

No, he didn't have the heart.

I also think that if you take out all

I'm counting this as Jokovich's 25th major because he played Center better than Alcaraz played Center, and Sinner is a sinner, and he's a cheater.

So therefore, ipso facto, Djokovic is the GOAT 25th major Grand Slam championship.

That's incredible.

Don't you agree?

It's fascinating stuff.

Yeah.

Did you guys see the long report about how LeBron is basically being left in the dark by the Lakers?

Because it was pretty awesome.

So

they told Luca that the team was being sold.

There were a couple of stories.

Yeah, that was the big one.

But they did not tell LeBron.

They did not tell LeBron the team was being sold.

They also had a meeting after the season ended that was Polinka, J.J.

Reddick, Luca, and Luca's agent.

And LeBron was not invited, and it was basically a meeting talking about

who Luca wants to play with.

Essentially, LeBron, you no longer get to do these things that you've done for your entire career, which made sense at the time.

But I feel like this is heading for...

I don't think LeBron's playing for the Lakers next year.

It feels like a move that they knew that was going to piss LeBron off.

Correct.

He was going to find out about it.

But it also makes sense because they have Luca.

They have to start building the team around Luca.

Like,

LeBron deserves any way that he wants to go out because of what he's done in the NBA and how long he's been so great.

But if you're the Lakers,

you can't just let him hold you hostage for the last couple of years of his career and not try to build a winner around Luca.

And he's an expiring contract for the first time in his career this year.

Yeah, and Drake covered up his LeBron tattoo with an SGA tattoo.

Really?

You see that?

No, I I didn't.

Yeah, I used to say it was the

high school jersey that LeBron wore.

He covered it up with like a shitty SGA thing.

It looks terrible, but it also feels like something that Drake did just to piss LeBron off.

Yeah, that's a chain.

Well, that's because LeBron danced to Kendrick's

not like us.

He went to the pop-out.

Yeah, he went to the pop-out.

Wow.

What a beef.

Great weekend in sport.

Tough offseason.

What a great weekend in sport.

If Drake covered up my tattoo on his arm, I'd be like, thank you, Drake.

Yeah, I appreciate that.

But yeah, it does feel like it's maybe over for LeBron in

Los Angeles.

But where?

Cleveland?

But where?

That's the problem.

Where?

What if the league retired him?

No, I mean, he'll obviously play somewhere.

Yeah, I feel like it has to be Cleveland.

He can't add another jersey.

No.

If he does that, that's weird.

Destroy the legacy.

It would.

That makes his legacy ratio really bad.

Oh, his legacy ratio would be tanked.

Yeah.

All right.

What else?

What other big stories happened this weekend?

Is there something going on with golf?

Yes.

People were pissed about the Scottish Opener.

Scottish Open.

Were people pissed, golf guy, Hank?

People were pissed?

About the greens?

I just saw like Rory was mad, then Scotty was mad.

I don't know.

Scotty was missing putts.

He had some very funny reactions.

Like, he literally had one where he was shaking his fist.

Like, ah.

Okay.

I don't know.

I think when pro golfers play bad,

they might lash out a little bit.

Yeah.

Or amateur golfers.

Yeah, any golfers.

But Goddard won.

Good for him.

Godderup.

I think he might be.

He might be in AWL.

Really?

I think he might be.

Let's go.

So shout out to Godderup.

Maybe hit him with Dan.

Got her done.

Hit him with a DM, Zach.

Get your DM warmed up before the end of the show when we DM this chick.

Hit up Goddard right now.

I can do that.

Yeah.

And just hit him up and be like, AWL, question mark.

Just feel how it goes.

That'd be devastating if he wasn't.

Yeah, there's really no sports going on.

Not a lot of sports going on.

There was a Katie Taylor Serrano fight.

Yep.

Katie Taylor won again.

Okay.

It was a good fight.

They just punched each other in the face for...

I don't like the two-minute rounds, though.

Yeah.

I don't like that.

It doesn't give you enough time to get in the flow.

Yeah.

There was the jockey race.

That was awesome.

Jockey race was great.

We have the TV.

The TV is not even on.

I was going to say, the jockey race was sick.

What was that?

Peru?

Yeah.

Those guys were so slow.

I mean, they're running in, like, if you ever looked, if you ever been on a racetrack, the mud is so much deeper than you realize and put their tiny little legs their tiny little it was the most adorable race we need to have that all the time yeah yeah i would like to see them try to eat a hot dog and run a hundred yards oh when's that video coming out i don't know i don't know we did do that we did out in tahoe yeah and we we crushed it

um

all right we got anything else this is it's we're this is this is this This is the worst week in sports.

Everyone for who's back.

Should we just go to Who's Back?

We're going to do a great Mountain Rush.

I will say, too, Trevor Lawrence is the man.

I think we found that out.

Whenever we interview someone we haven't interacted with before, we're always a little nervous.

Like, does he get it?

He got it, and he's the man.

He is the man.

Oh, at the actual Tahoe, the American Century Championship, we had Pavelski.

Yeah, Badger.

Former San Jose Shark.

Badger.

Pavelski won.

John Smoltz, I think, came in second place.

Taylor Twellman.

Jake Owen was battling.

Rich Eisen came in last for men.

Yep.

Marty Fish came in, what, like...

Top 10, I think.

Top 10.

54 points.

Charles Barkley played well on Friday.

Yeah, he did.

I think he shot, what, a 37 or a 38 on the front nine?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, I mean, it's a very fun tournament.

Rob Mack did not beat Charles Barkley.

Not even close.

Not even close.

Ty was the best.

It's not real life.

No.

It's not.

It's just not real life.

It's not.

Even seeing it on TV, I was watching the tournament today, and I was like, watching it on TV TV doesn't do justice how preposterous of a place that is.

Right.

Like, you can see it on TV, and you're still like, if you're there,

you feel like you're in a different planet.

Max and I went on a boat on Saturday, and we found a lagoon that had essentially looked like you were in the Caribbean.

That's how clear the water was.

Actually, oh, we can talk about that, Max, once he gets this figured out.

We have a question for you guys.

All right, go.

Just get out of here.

Get out of here.

Scram.

Scram.

Beat it.

All right, so here's a question before we do the who's back in Mount Rushmore.

Hate me.

Have you guys...

Max is the worst.

He's the worst.

He was screaming about Ranger Swores in the bar, and there was like kids around me.

That's really what the fuck, dude.

Really inappropriate.

Ranger Swores has a 1.94 URA.

Have you guys ever seen, and this is maybe going to make Max and I seem like not boat guys, and I'm fine with that.

Have you guys ever seen

a grill on a boat?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Fuck.

Acon.

All the time?

No.

I think I've seen it precisely one time.

Okay.

All right.

So it's not,

it's pretty rare.

Yeah.

I've seen it a couple times.

Okay.

There's boats that come kind of with it's not set up all the time, but you can

actually

the whole thing.

So we were in this beautiful Tahoe lagoon having a great day, and Max and I, and it was like a bunch of us, and Max and I were just locked in on watching another man grill.

And we were like to the point where all the women on the boat were like, dude, what are you guys looking at?

We're like, we're looking at this grill.

Like, what he's grilling steak.

He's doing it.

To the point where I got drunk enough that I just jumped in the water and I swam over and I complimented their grill and they just started feeding me food.

Just tossing in the water.

Oh, it wasn't your boat.

No.

Oh.

No, it was another guy who's parked next to us.

Like you were a walrus.

Came up?

100%.

I didn't get out of the water.

They were just feeding.

Max watched this whole thing.

They were putting the food.

They were my best friends now.

I was mesmerized by the grill.

It had like a little stick that you twisted into this attachment on the boat.

Outboard, yeah.

and it just looked like a little tailgrate, tailgate, tail, whoa, tailgate grill, yeah.

That I mean, there was some great smoke coming out of there,

we had fragrances coming from across the lake, and it wasn't like hot dogs, and you know, it was steaks, like Max was like Pepe Le Pue on the boat, dude.

We, that's exactly hot dogs.

There was a lot of women that were also on that boat, and me and Big Cat just couldn't stop looking at the grill.

They were booty shaking, we're like, We don't even notice these women, it's the grill.

I just want to say that's probably the height of coolness:

parking a boat in a lagoon and busting out a grill and cooking steaks.

It's a strong move, and I think most boats don't have it because you can't have a fire on a boat.

If a boat catches fire, you're fucked.

He had the little propane.

It was so cool.

It was so cool.

And like I said, I went over and I just, I was being honest.

I was like, I love you guys.

Yeah, no, I said I was going to go over like a seal and I was like, I love your guys' grill.

They're like, you guys want some food?

I was like, yes, I do.

And then I was just like, you just started throwing meat into the water.

I was just catching it.

And then

I almost drowned because I was very drunk and I was trying to chew while swimming.

Not a great combo.

No.

All right,

that was pretty much the biggest sports weekend story there was.

The guy with the grill who didn't recognize us, so he's not even going to hear this.

But that guy rocks.

It's just the height.

I don't know how you can get better than that.

That's a good boat.

Yeah.

That's a great boat feature to have.

Great fucking boat.

I still don't really understand how it works.

Still kind of blows my mind.

I also don't understand why more boats don't have grills because you're surrounded by water.

So if it does catch fire, okay, you got water.

It's also, you never have to get off your boat if you have a grill.

Yeah.

You have everything there.

You can't live at sea.

Yeah, he was like, he was, he was doing a great job cheffing it up, and he was just washing his hands in the water

in between each course.

So, all right, that was a boring story, but I really, there was not a lot of sports.

I watched another documentary about the Titan sub-guy.

Oh, yeah.

Which one?

I'm starting to come around on that guy.

Listen, he had a vision.

He had a vision.

He was going to do it.

And he just said, fuck it.

And then he knew that the sub wasn't going to work, but he also didn't want to ask his investors for more money.

And he was like, fuck it.

I'm just going down.

Yeah, I don't know if I only watch one of the two, I think, that are out there.

But I think the moment when

everyone in his company was like, hey, this is a really bad idea.

And then he's like, all right, well, you just don't work for me anymore.

That was like, this guy kind of rocks.

Anybody that would say, hey, hey, you know that giant crack that we just heard?

I think maybe we should look at the hull and see if it's still operable.

He goes, you just don't have an Explorer mentality.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He just fired.

He just fired everyone who had, who, who thought of a little bit of health and safety.

Yeah, you're not DTS.

You're not down to sub.

You're out of here.

Also, the fact that he named it the Titan and then went to the Titanic and then they asked him on the CBS.

By the way, here's how you know how badly things got fucked up with the Belichick CBS Sunday morning thing.

Yes.

They interviewed this guy on CBS Sunday morning, and they asked all the relevant questions about safety.

And the guy was like, yeah, you know,

I do see some irony in the fact that we're taking it on a mission to see a ship that they said God himself could not sink and then it sank.

But I'm telling you, this sub, God himself actually couldn't see this one.

Not only that, the guy, the CBS guy, got on the sub.

Yeah.

He went down with him.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

You're absolutely right.

Jordan is actually, yeah,

she's better than the Titanic.

She's better than

the Titanic, right, Hank?

Way better.

Way better than a Titanic.

Okay, let's do Who's Back of the Week.

Then we'll do our Mount Rushmore.

Then we have an awesome interview with Trevor Lawrence.

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Okay, Henry, who's back of the week?

Who's back of the week is Derek Lewis.

Oh, yeah.

UFC fight Saturday night.

I was on a bachelor party, so it was like, you know, the last fight of the night.

Big underdog, Derek Lewis, most electric press conferences, TKO'd him in the first round, big underdog, and then,

I mean, we ended up watching all of his greatest hits of post-game interviews.

Like, he's one of the funniest ever.

Hot balls.

Yeah.

But

he was on the phone with Trump right away, like, right before Rogan interviewed him.

And then he got off.

He said, what Trump's there?

And he goes, USA and this Hope.

Dude, he's electric.

So funny.

Yeah.

So, so funny.

You watched the whole UFC card?

Yeah.

How was the Bachelor Party?

Give us a whole recap.

Bachelor Party was good.

I lost every bet until that one.

Horse racing is tough.

You were in Saratoga.

Well, no, horse racing with a horse.

I'm talking about the UFC UFC card.

I mean, horse racing and UFC fight betting is pretty similar.

Yeah, horse racing.

You just kind of hope.

Yeah, yeah.

Just hit it and hope.

Yeah, hit it and hope.

Horse racing, I mean, Saratoga is great.

Bachelor Party,

it's a perfect place for a bachelor party.

It feels very old school.

Yes.

Just go in, tailgate, bring coolers, go in and out.

Great time.

It's a great place because it's Saratoga and Lexington are the two places you go when you know there's a horse weekend because you'll be in line for coffee and people will be talking about the races.

Like it takes over the town.

That's what I love about it.

I feel like that's where old football coaches go when they retire, too.

Oh, yeah.

I was like, I'm just going to

track every single day.

Wait, so what?

Give us the recap of the UFC card.

This is our UFC expert, Henry Lockwood.

That was really notable-wise.

Like, I'm trying to

go through my memories.

There wasn't much else other than I was losing every fight.

Okay.

Any other big knockouts?

Any other big storylines?

They kept showing the commercial for Max Holloway

next week, and I was like, oh, is this coming up tonight?

Yeah.

And I was like, no, this next week.

Fuck.

Okay.

I'm excited for that fight, though.

Oh, so you're hooked.

Who's he fighting?

Covington.

Okay.

Kobe Covington?

No.

Who's the guy that was at Beer Games?

Poirier.

Oh, Dustin Poirier is the man.

Yeah.

Okay.

So is Max Holloway.

So that, so you're in for next week.

So will we have a recap on next Monday's show?

Yes.

100%.

Michael Chandler was the one who was at Beer Games.

Got it.

Oh, Michael Chandler.

But is he fighting Michael Chandler or is he fighting Dustin?

He's fighting Poirier.

He's fighting Poirier.

Poirier is also the man.

Louisiana guy.

Yep.

Is your recap next weekend going to be just as good as this one?

Probably, probably, maybe, maybe worse.

Well, the big recap was you saw a commercial.

No, Derek Lewis was the recap.

Derrid Lewis was the recap.

The recap was, he gives great press conferences, and I watched all his press conferences.

Which is, yeah, that's a great recap.

Good job, Hank.

You are now, I think Hank, Henry Lockwood, UFC expert, would be a good golf guy.

You're a niche sport guy.

Well, because UFC fans are going to get so mad.

Oh, yeah.

Well, golf guys get mad too.

So it's perfect.

We'll just get you in those.

Maybe WNBA.

We'll throw WNBA in there.

I don't know about that.

Oh, I got that one on lockdown.

You have some takes on that?

No, I don't want to have takes on that.

Okay, all right.

I like my job.

Okay.

All right, PFT, your who's back of the week.

My who's back of the week is Uno.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uno is back.

The card game.

So apparently, one casino in Vegas is going to be bringing Uno to their card tables.

Yep.

So they're going to have three different versions.

They're going to have Uno Golf.

They're going to have Uno Teams where you play teams of two.

And then Uno Show Em No Mercy, which is a bunch of cards.

And you win by getting rid of all your cards or by knocking all the other players off the table.

But it's going to be a thing called Uno Social Clubs, which is going to be awesome because I feel like there are going to be people that go to Vegas that have never played the standard table games that go to Uno and they just absolutely dominate.

There are going to be some rookies that dominate.

Here's my only question.

And I can't say I've played Uno a lot recently, but is it one of those games kind of like Monopoly where if you played by the actual rules, it would just take forever?

It can take a long time, yeah.

I hate those.

Because like I, have you guys ever had that moment where you've had to play Monopoly with someone who actually plays by all the rules, and it literally will never end?

It's not nearly as bad as Monopoly.

Right, but it's Monopoly can take like days.

Days.

Yeah.

Uno's.

Also, I think.

No, I don't think Uno can take longer than like 30 minutes.

Even if you play by all the rules, it's still a manageable game.

Yeah, yeah.

We should do a live stream of Uno, like the World Series of Poker.

Yeah, World Series of Uno.

Yeah.

I bet people would watch that.

That was my who's back of the week was World Series of Poker.

Because I don't know if you guys saw, but I don't understand the poker world,

but I do like anyone who's causing a ruckus.

And this guy, William Cassif, I believe is his name, the British guy.

Have you seen any of these clips?

He essentially just

got banned from all World Series of poker events for the rest of the year.

That rocks.

He finished 33rd.

I think he won like $300,000.

But there was like this big controversy of guys calling clock on him, and he was talking shit to people.

He also got a penalty for calling a guy a bitch.

I'm in on all.

That's cool.

But this is a problem.

From everything I've read, and this is kind of like Hank's UFC.

I read maybe

eight to ten tweets.

So I'm pretty much an expert.

I feel like the World Series of poker is going to do the opposite thing that they should do.

They should embrace this guy because these type of people and like the Phil Helmuth, like the, or who is the guy, Matasow?

Was that the guy who would yell at people?

Helmuth was annoying.

Helmuth was annoying.

I think Mike Matt, Mike the Mouth.

Mike the Mouth Matasow, whatever.

This is old school

poker talk, but you need personalities.

You need people that are aggravating.

You don't need people who are robots who are playing by an algorithm and just going through it.

And he's British.

And at least he plays hands.

He just doesn't turn in all his hands.

He, he, well, so this is the other thing.

He, he, uh, didn't show up.

He showed up an hour late the last two days, and people were like, why would you do that?

Because he's just giving away big blinds.

He's like, he's like, I wanted to get sleep.

I had only slept two hours.

And he's like, I just got a better payout because I just gave, I gave a little donation.

And then when I showed up, I was like, a few people were eliminated, and I was higher up in the standings.

So he's a bad boy.

I like that.

He's a big time bad boy.

Poker needs a bad boy.

Yeah, and he was arguing with,

I guess, yeah, you can call clock on someone, and then if you get the clock called on you, you get a strike, and then if you get like a couple strikes, the clock then becomes 10 seconds as you have time to make a decision.

I think that's crazy.

That's preposterous.

This is one of those things where if one guy does it, it's good to have a bad boy, but if everybody played by that same standard, then it would just completely suck.

But there are, he is, from everything I've read, again, eight to ten tweets, kind of an expert.

He's the only one.

Everyone else is a robot algorithm who plays the Mincey's.

They fold everything.

They only play the hands that are like statistically guaranteed.

It's not poker.

I want to watch some swagger.

I want to watch some bluffing.

I want to watch some table talk, some shit talking.

I missed the World Series of Poker back in the day when they had the guy that just wore the reptile glasses.

Moneymaker.

No, that's not.

No, Fossilman.

Fossil Man.

Yeah, yeah.

Just rocked the reptile glasses glasses at the table.

Yeah, Fossil Man was awesome.

One of those guys, Moneymaker, one of them did something.

Well, no, maybe they didn't.

Yeah, Pokemon.

Yeah, they might have.

Either way, I think I stand with this guy because I saw enough positive,

hey, he's not doing anything wrong.

There was a couple negative, but I just ignored those.

Cassif.

Yeah.

Is his name?

William Cassif.

He's a British guy.

Yeah, I say Free Cassif.

Yeah.

He hadn't slept at all.

He was going to.

They even said that they're like, haven't you slept like four hours in the last three days?

And, like, do you really think that you should be trying to make these arguments with the casino staff?

And he's like, listen to me.

I'm locked in as I could ever be.

He's just going a mile a minute.

I'm going to boycott.

I think he might have been having a little bit of a breakdown, but that made it interesting.

I am not, I'm going to boycott the rest of the World Series of poker this year.

And all the satellite tournaments.

And I would have watched every single second of it.

Yeah.

When is it over?

Never.

Is it still going on?

Still.

Yeah.

All of July.

Let me see.

Okay.

World Series of Poker.

I'm implementing a self-boycott.

All right.

Hold on.

I'm going to tell you how many people we got left.

Because then they just sit there and they just

fold and they fold and they fold and they fold.

All right.

Filibuster real quick while I find this.

I wonder if Phil Ivy's in.

Is he still in?

Does he play pay?

Oh, he's out?

Oh, Ethan.

One man.

Yeah, one month trial.

Ethan outlasted him.

That's nice.

Yeah.

Payout calculator.

This is.

Their website sucks.

Okay, no, this is part of my boycott.

2BB's Queen Jack King.

What?

I don't know.

I enjoy.

I don't follow poker at all, but I

enjoy seeing when our people work there and they do these breakdowns of their hands, which make no sense to me.

He got rivered, sounds like that.

But it's very funny just hearing poker guys do poker talk.

It's like, yeah, you know, I had a good hand, but then I got two BBs versus six and a queen, and

the river flushed me out.

Sounds like he caught the turn.

Nothing like that.

Yeah, that was part of it.

He lost on a bad hand, I think.

I don't fucking know.

I actually think that hearing people describe their poker beats might be more boring than hearing people describe their dreams.

Oh, yeah.

What about

some reason I can't get enough of it?

What about someone uh describing shot by shot their hole?

Uh, that's a pretty bad one.

That's I love that stuff, yeah.

That's pretty bad, unless you've played that course, yep, because then you, then you get to be visualized, yeah, no, yeah, then you respond with, well, when I was on that hole, I remember that tree.

Oh, it's a great par.

Yeah,

I can't find it, whatever.

It's still going on, and it's going to go on on forever, and it's never going to end.

But free William Cassip.

Sure, yeah.

Zach, your who's back of the week.

My who's back of the week is going to be Counter-Strike cases, specifically opening them.

Yep.

After a couple of weeks ago, Nate Shot Tim Tatman went about 3,200 cases in a row without pulling a gold item.

So they decided, okay, what we'll do is

always...

I love your who's backs because I'm...

I try to take in as much, but I already have a million follow-up questions, but keep going.

From my understanding, from what you've said already, it sounds like something happened to Tim the Tatman that made him look like a loser.

So, this is no loser activity.

These are all big winner activities.

Well, great activity, fun activities, good activities with the boys.

So, on a redemption arc, Nadeshot, Tim the Tatman, Oni Pixel, XQC, Aero CS3, Sparkles, and TDMH Jesus.

That's the sixth man who competed in it.

I did mostly watch a Nadeshot stream, but they went

CSGO case unboxings,

$590,000 in cases they unboxed.

Okay.

Unprecedented territory is what we're approaching now.

What is it unboxing?

It's cardbreaking, but a video game.

What do you mean?

So it's basically buying a pack of cards via inside inside of a game.

And then just called cases.

Sounds like a lucrative hobby.

And then what do you do when you get one that's good?

So the thing is, there's a marketplace.

So in these cases, you're looking for, so there's

different levels, right?

So like white, light blue, blue, purple, pink, red, gold, like on a scale.

And then also there is like where like the where of the item comes into play.

So like factory new or like heavily worn.

Wait, but these are in the game.

These are skins in game, yes, for the wet.

That's one that's not necessarily meant.

Oh, 100%, yes.

Do you send it off to get graded or it tells you right where you go?

It tells you there's a decimal point system where it tells you how heavily worn this item is.

Usually you want to go for the least worn, want to go factory new, but sometimes when they're really worn, they start to change colors.

It's a whole thing.

It gets a little vast.

When I said loser about Tim the Tatman, I should probably rephrase, I liked him a lot, but he is very, it's very funny when he's doing something and then he gets sad.

I think it's kind of like people that watch us when our teams lose.

Like watching the Dallas Cowboys and Tim the Tatman lose a game, it's kind of funny.

Yeah, by the way, just as a quick break, update, two dozen players are left in the World Series of poker.

Okay.

And that update came from Zach, who has a mic in front of him, but texted me.

That was a wrong call.

I should have just put the mic on.

My computer just popped up and said, two dozen players are left.

And I had to think, what are we talking about?

Oh, yeah.

World Series Broker.

All right, back to this.

But on the Tim and Tatman note, there, he did pull the best item of the unboxing.

He pulled a sticker worth $26,000.

Wow.

So this, so, all right, dumb it down for me.

Very famous streamer guys unboxing cards inside of a game, failed a lot, lost a lot of money, then got one awesome card.

So they did end up losing quite a bit of money, about 80% of the return.

But it was awesome just because it was the biggest case opening of all time.

And it was like, it's more so about the journey, right?

It's about watching the ebb and flow of the case openings.

It was pretty sweet.

Yeah.

So how long was the case opening?

This one, I think, went for like 10 or 11 hours.

Oh, wow.

I believe so.

And they're just doing it rapid-fire?

Just ripping cases.

One guy goes.

About an hour.

Another guy goes.

We're looking for golds.

We're looking for AKs.

AK, AK, AK, please.

What's an AK?

AK-47.

It's a what about the knives?

I thought the knives are good, too.

Yes, if you pull a gold, you can get a gloves or knives, nice little crambit action.

There's quite a few knives that go, and these it does sound I see where you're coming from, but like these, so a lot of these skins can go for like hundreds of thousands, if not like millions of dollars.

No, I'm not judging this, I'm more trying to follow along.

And it is, they are skins, but video game card break.

Yeah, you didn't.

Do you know what the most valuable thing ever pulled out of one of these packs was?

I don't know off the top of my head what it was, but I do know it was roughly around $1.2 million in my research earlier.

I am new to skins as well.

I just enjoy watching the streams of the case openings.

Got it.

And they broke the fictitious record, but it's the biggest case opening ever, world record.

Okay.

Okay.

So who's back?

I would say Nadeshot's back because he went 3,200 cases

without getting any golds.

And he's got the lottery ball.

Yo.

Got it.

People in the wild.

Listen, we need more people in the wild asking us about Memes lottery ball because that was fun.

It's kind of crazy.

There was a lot of people asking, will he ever get it?

All right, good.

Who's back?

Memes, did you appreciate that?

Memes people care.

Yeah.

I appreciate it.

Yeah.

Don't get mad at it at all.

Are you going to be taking their advice?

I do take some people's advice.

Did anyone give you a number?

No, no numbers.

People DM me numbers.

So what was their advice if they didn't give you a number?

Just get it.

That's pretty good advice.

Just pick the right number, memes.

That's really good.

It's really not that hard.

Yeah, mainly people just DM it.

Just think, what would Nadeshott do?

He lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Is that correct?

He lost several tens of thousands of dollars.

Tens of thousands of dollars.

But the journey got him to the point where he got the sickest skin case.

He didn't get the sickest.

He was just there for the biggest unboxing.

So he did spend a million.

So Nade Shot, if we're doing the same,

it's just like Hank got it.

He lost a bunch of money on the blackjack table, but then you got to to watch me win a bunch of money on the blackjack table.

Got it.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Which is probably fun.

Yeah, that's a great feeling.

Yeah, that does.

That's what

when you lose a lot and then you watch one of your friends win, you're like, yeah.

Sick.

But again, that's his job, though.

Yeah, he's being changed.

People are watching it.

And he's hanging with the boys.

Oh, with the boys.

He did spend roughly around $95,000 and made back $9,300.

Okay.

But he's with the boys.

He's with the boys.

When are you going to start streaming?

I don't have the.

I run into a lot of dead air.

I don't have the capability of constant,

you know.

Does that make sense?

Is that talking?

Yes.

We can get you going.

Yeah.

I think you're going to start streaming.

I think there'll be good chat for you.

I think we're going to start supportive chat.

I've been telling him since he started on PMT that we got to get him streaming.

We're going to get you streaming.

We're going to play the Marvel Rivals.

You know what?

Maybe, Zach, maybe what we'll do is

we'll play some college football.

You can play with me, and then you could see that it's really not hard to stream.

I appreciate the invitation.

I think that could be fun.

Yeah.

You get your feet wet.

It's not, it's fun.

I mean, the chat's going to be ruthless, but who cares?

It's like, no,

the chat will

fucking love this.

Yeah, but you know how it will happen.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

It flips so quick, Max.

It flips so quick.

No, no, no.

You know that.

You know that.

No, the chat is going to love you.

Zach,

what are your top three video games?

All-time, probably Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 2, Call of Duty Black Ops 2, and then I'm going to go Pandemic Warzone with my three rounded out.

Okay.

Which one of those would be best to stream?

Call of Duty.

Marvel Rivals.

Yeah, Marvel Rivals.

Rivals.

The Rivals is already a thing.

I want to get Sharknado up all up in your ass.

I also heard that memes is great at college football as well.

Yes.

Great at Call of Duty, too.

Ooh.

Hanks in the COD tournaments, I heard.

Yeah.

A couple of those.

The big boys.

You have a double kill.

I played with Optic, yeah.

Fuck yeah.

All right, should we do our Mount Rushmore?

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Okay, Mount Rushmore time.

It is 11,

11.8.

So memes and Max, PFT and Hank both have 11.

Their teams have 11.

Zach and I are still looking for our first win of the season.

We're still, still just desperately looking for that.

We're in third with eight.

We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of worse places to be when violently hung over.

Steve Wozniaki, by the way, the king of Mount Rushmore, maybe the lowest vote received of all time.

Steve Wozniak?

Oh, Korniaki?

He said that.

I said it was going to be.

We were going to lose.

He was called that.

Yeah, but you guys kept trying.

You were way off in your prediction.

No, I'm giving

you

6%.

You're like,

I think I know how these things things typically play out.

You are.

That's right.

Yes, because I said I was going to lose.

You sounded very arrogant, Max.

How do I sound arrogant by saying that we were going to lose and then we lost?

That is correct.

What are you upset about?

You diminished me and Hank's Mount Rushmore.

I said that we were going to lose and we lost.

You also talked a lot about our Mount Rushmore.

No, I don't.

No, I don't think that's a good thing.

You are completely.

Yeah, you guys are not.

You are choosing to remember something that just didn't happen.

I know.

But I'm saying that our vote got a lot more votes than their vote.

Oh, I see what you're saying.

So you got one point and we got one point?

I see what you're saying.

Yeah.

I see what you're saying.

You tell me?

What?

You got, I mean, that was

Steve Wozniaki.

Steve Wozniaki over here.

But I was right.

You were right.

You were right.

Listen, it's contentious.

It's Mount Rushmore season.

All right, who goes first?

I think we do.

Steve Wozniaki and Crew.

We go first.

We go first.

It looks like Steve Wozniaki.

And I'm like, that's very mean.

You guys.

Okay.

So Henry.

What do we say, Zach?

My phone might die, though.

Zach, what do we say?

Oh, no.

Stay strong, don't break.

Stay strong, don't break.

Nightmare.

Nightmare for me and Henry.

Stay strong, don't break.

All right.

Worst place to be violently hungover.

And this, we should preface this.

You cannot drink at this place.

Yeah.

Like a lot of these places, sometimes it's you might go there, and if you can drink, it's not as bad.

This is under the

guidelines of you're not allowed to drink if you're at this place.

Okay, I didn't know those were the guidelines, but okay.

But that makes sense, right?

Because some places

are going to be like, oh, well, if you just go there,

we took off some places.

We made choices based on

if someone could say, well, you could drink there, we're not going to pick it.

Well, I don't, like, you can't pick a bar and not, like, there

has to be, like, it can't be the main reason of that thing is drinking.

Like,

okay.

Yeah, okay.

We're first, right?

This will go well.

A long flight

is our 1-1.

And to your point, you cannot be drinking on this long flight.

Right.

But that's not the point of.

No, that's not the point.

You know what I mean?

That's what I meant.

That's what I meant.

Because some people will be like, well, if you're hungover on a long flight, just drink.

You can't do that.

But you can't do that.

I was on a flight back from Hong Kong after I went over there with Donnie to go to the Rugby World Series Sevens.

And I was coming down off MDMA, and I got on a flight in Hong Kong, and we flew all the way to New York non-stop.

I did not get up to pee until we were on final approach.

That's how violently hungover and dehydrated I was.

And it was the worst experience of my entire life.

That's a good pick.

One time I was super hungover, and then I was running late to get to the plane, so I got a burrito and a couple sodas,

and then there was like a journalist that was sitting next to me that was like documenting how hungover and disgusting I was the entire time.

That sounds awesome.

That sounds great.

Yeah, no, that was tough.

Today, I was in an Uber to the airport, and I farted.

I thought it was, I didn't realize how bad it smelled.

It smelled horrible.

And it was a small Uber, and I was like, oh, sorry, man.

Turn the window down.

Cause it literally smelled so bad.

He rolls the windows up, and he's like, no, the AC's on.

Oh.

And just sat there.

Oh, I couldn't believe it.

I could not believe it.

Just sat there and ate it.

It was wild.

It's also a wild move to pull a heat check on a fart inside of a car.

I also think it's a wild.

If you're a passenger, you should be able to do what you want with the window.

Wow.

Oh, with the window.

Yes.

For single windows.

No, not farting.

You can't fart.

You can't start farting on everyone.

No, no, but I feel like if you're the passenger and you want the window down, the guy should be like, okay, yeah, you can have fun.

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

I'd agree with that.

Okay.

I'm going to go with our 1-1 PFT.

Okay.

Funeral.

Okay.

Funeral is bad.

Funeral's bad.

Okay.

Have you ever been violently hungover at a funeral?

Yeah.

Okay.

Not great.

Didn't have funeral.

Bad day.

Yeah.

Is that why you said you can't be a bad person?

It would be a bad place to be hungover.

I just can't say that I

can relate to that.

But theoretically, yes.

Yeah.

For sure.

Zach, what do we want?

We've got to stay strong.

Don't Don't break.

I agree.

You got the list as well, right?

Yeah, yeah.

So 4-5

or 1, I'll play well.

Yeah, yeah.

Let's go 4-5.

All right, we'll go easy work.

Just being hungover, violently hungover at work is fucking brutal.

There's just nothing worse when you're just like, I have to sit here all day, be violently hungover.

Everyone kind of knows you are.

And

it's any situation where you can't lay down and sleep.

That's really what we're talking about.

And then

this has never happened to us personally, but I think it would really, really suck.

I think being violently hungover and waking up in jail would suck really bad.

Yep.

Jail.

Yep.

That was a fun pick.

Yeah.

Jail.

That was the Jesus pick.

Yeah.

Would be very bad.

It's not a fun time.

You think 10

or 3?

I thought it was you.

I thought this was your Mount Rushmore.

Wait, what was the first pick overall?

uh on a cross-country flight long flight yeah okay so hank i think we go with uh maybe number two on our list you see that i thought it was hank's mount rushmore it's our mount rushmore oh but you said he had the ball yeah yeah it's just teamwork just go for it it's just teamwork all right we're gonna go with your girlfriend's parents' house yeah yeah good one can it be girlfriend slash in-laws yeah yeah

yeah the tv started to work just randomly yeah now we're just watching a random commercial it's good pick yeah they wake up maybe in like you're you're in a childhood bedroom, like a brother's room.

You're terrified to go downstairs.

Yep, you're late.

Sucks.

You're late.

They're already doing something.

The last thing you want to do is speak and have small talk with your girlfriend's parents.

Yep.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Good pick.

Good pick.

Our third pick is going to be

second pick.

Our second pick will be school if you're in college and you just have to go to class for some reason that next day.

Terrible, terrible feeling.

We had specifically taking a test.

Yeah.

It was like the test.

Tell me that

you have to be there for and you can't skip it.

Yeah, I would be hungover for regular class, but like a test would just kill me.

Yeah.

Why are you laughing about?

I'm laughing at 50s answers.

Which one?

15.

Oh, yeah, 15's a good one.

It's a really good one.

Zach had a great one that I can't wait to share.

It's not going to make the cut.

Pick number three: a child's birthday party.

Good one.

Good pick.

Just screaming.

Okay,

I would like to say that I actually disagree with this, but this is a personal thing.

A child's birthday party is actually not a bad place to be hungover because they have an activity to do.

It's a big deal.

Like, I'm just saying, when you show up to a kid's birthday party, now, if it was your child's birthday party, that might be different.

But personally,

when your kid has a birthday party, it's a fucking savior because you just show up and they get to just play with their friends in a confined area and you can just sit there.

This might be a little bit different as

like memes and I are both uncles.

Got it.

It's a little when you have your own kid, I get that, but like when you're going to like one of your nieces or nephews birthday parties and you're not around screaming kids all the time.

Yeah.

And then you have to be like, holy shit, this is child overload.

I just know personally when my kids have a birthday, it's like, great, Saturday's set.

Because they're just going to go play at this birthday party and I can just chill.

I think the worst profession to go to work hungover at would be a teacher, like an elementary school teacher.

That's when when you wheel the TV out.

That's when we're watching Magic School.

Oh, big time.

Big time.

Bill, Bill, Bill.

Get ready to learn Bill 9.

All right, PFT, I'm going for it.

It's our third pick, right?

Yep.

We're going to go with a workout class.

You signed up for it.

Maybe, you know, your girlfriend signed you up for it.

You went out the night before.

That's like a choice.

You still have to pay, but you paid for a lot of time.

You paid for it already.

So you wake up, you're like, well, I already committed to this.

Yeah.

I'm just going to go and sweat it out.

And then once it starts, you want to die.

What are you saying?

Talk to the mic memes.

No, no, no.

I'm thinking future pick.

Oh, okay.

And sometimes it might be like, this is the start of me getting into shape.

And you make that commitment the night before.

And you're like, you know what?

I'm going to do it.

I'm going to start working out.

And then you follow through the next day and you get into the class.

And everyone knows that you're hungover.

Okay.

And your sweat smells like beer.

Okay.

Good pick.

With something similar.

All right.

So kind of, Zach, I think I'm going to go with, I'm going to let you do the last one, but I'm going to go with the one that I think we workshop this because we brought up kids' birthday, and I explained to Zach that, like, taking my kids to a birthday and being hungover is not a big deal because you just sit there.

But what would be a big deal is Disney World with your kids.

That would be hell on earth because then you actually actively have to parent and chase them around and worry about where they're being and stand in lines and eat gross food.

Disney World with kids would be, I actually don't think that there's, I've never been to Disney World as a kid or an adult, but I think that that might be the worst place in the world.

Yeah, I went once when I was, I think, five.

Yeah.

And all I know about Disney World since then does make me seem like it would be a terrible place to be hungover.

Yeah.

Because you also have to pretend to be really excited and happy.

Yeah.

Wait, Zach, should we go with eight?

I just realized eight's still there.

Well, you're not talking in the mind.

I think eight is good.

I also think ten is good.

And

13 as well.

No, no, 13 is not good.

No, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no.

That would blow this draft.

We're doing a pretty good job.

We're staying strong.

We're not breaking.

Okay.

You're right.

You're right.

That was almost a break.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think we

go eight, you think?

Yeah, I think we just stay.

We're staying right in the middle here.

We have strong picks.

Long car ride.

Super long car ride.

Fucking brutal.

It's a good pick.

That was going to be similar to a long flight.

It is.

Yeah.

It's just slightly more comfortable than than a long flight.

A little bit more comfortable, but then you also have to deal with traffic, which sucks.

That way, like a delay.

Yeah.

Long car ride.

No, car rides are way more comfortable than

a bathroom brake on the plane.

Those things are not always there when you're in the car.

You can stop yourself.

You can ooze whenever this

is fight for yourself, Zach.

Sometimes you're in traffic.

You can't just get out.

No, you can't.

You can always pull out.

No, not in traffic.

That's just unsafe.

You're getting hit by cars.

That's unsafe.

Pulling over.

What?

You can pull over

the road.

Sometimes in the traffic hand, there is no pulling over.

Don't listen.

Don't say that.

You know that sometimes there's no pulling over.

Pulling over.

Are you guys arguing that you can just pull over anywhere?

In most cases,

easier to sleep on a plane.

If you're...

You can't go there.

This is wrong.

No,

unless you're driving.

Well, yeah, you could be driving hungover.

Okay, fair.

Fair.

It's fair.

But it's part of a long car drive.

Okay.

There's been many times when I've been hungover and had like five hours to drive after

a weekend.

You are not allowed to make this pick.

You choose to drive over flying almost

every time.

But hungover driving sucks.

I do love driving.

I do.

I appreciate you fighting for your pick, but I know you don't fight for you.

I'm fighting for Zach more than anything.

He's got to stand up for himself.

No, I like that.

I like you guys.

Well driving.

I mean, ours was also a 1-1 pick.

This is a pick in the fourth round.

Both of those things can be true.

Good value.

Can we ask Steve Kournacki?

Was fourth round picks?

Yeah, no, it was great value.

It was a good pick.

Zach, I liked you trying to say that you can't get out of a car.

In some circumstances, you're in.

In the car, you always got to wear the belt.

In the plane, you literally can't get out of.

You might also, wait a minute, you could also take the belt off in a car.

No, but you might.

You have the lights on.

You might be middle seat.

Maybe they just stopped.

I would have taken a different approach, Zach.

But

I'm trying to tell you.

I know.

I like it, too.

I like it too.

I can't wait to tell you guys what 13 is.

I'm PFT.

I like our 13.

I like R8.

And I like our 4.

Okay.

I like our 7, too.

Okay.

We'll go 7.

Up to you.

Balls in your hands.

Balls in your hands.

Hey, Hank.

All right.

With our last pick,

we're going to go with At Your Own Wedding.

Had it on our list.

Good one.

Had it on our list.

A tough hangover.

Brutal hangover.

Well, you can remedy it because you're going to start drinking again.

But yes.

Eventually, but you have to battle.

It's supposed to be a great day.

I do a lot of talking.

Small talk to everyone.

We had it on our list.

Good chance that you pass out.

It's a good pick.

I'm addicted to watching the compilations of people passing out at West.

They don't bend their knees.

You lock up.

Yeah.

Okay.

Max.

Our last pick will be

a sports practice.

Okay.

This memes and I, both college athletes, you guys wouldn't really get this, but

I played football.

Played roughly.

It's like the worst feeling ever when you try to be like a normal college kid, and then the very next morning you have to go get screamed at, run for it, run for days.

I realized I was not going to be a college athlete, was at fallball, hungover.

Yeah, it's the worst feeling in the world.

I have one story where I got super drunk in New York City,

came back the next day.

Like, I was so drunk that someone

told me to get a job because I was trying to bum a cigarette off the street from someone in New York, and they thought I was homeless.

And then I went to practice the next day playing first base and I took a ball straight to the chest, which is almost impossible to do when you're playing first base.

It didn't hit my glove and somehow went straight and just crushed me in the chest.

Damn.

My friends on my team will remember this right now.

It was a tough day.

But it's kind of like the workout class, but there's 0% chance of skipping.

You just can't skip a practice when you're an athlete.

Do you guys want to know what 13 was for Zach?

Yeah, I do.

Laser Tag.

Laser Tag would suck.

It would suck too much.

LaserTag sucks anyway.

Yeah.

No, Laser Tag's fucking.

No, it isn't.

No, Laser Tag rocks.

Laser Tag.

When's the last time you guys played Laser Tag?

Too long.

Exactly.

Yeah, we should do it.

I think we

should be more excited.

Yeah, I feel like we should make a video playing Laser Tag.

It always sucks.

Go play Laser Tag this week.

Paintball exists.

Yeah, but then

it's the competitiveness of paintball without having to worry about being hurt.

No, my favorite part of Laser Tag is when they sit you in the pre-briefing room and like the teenager paces back and forth in front of you like a drill sergeant telling you the rules.

That's the absolute best.

Will not run in the arena.

The one that I was trying to work my head around that kind of is like too long to explain, but I think is a really, really bad one is when you have, when you are on vacation and you're hungover and you have a late flight, but you have to check out.

So you're basically homeless.

Yeah.

Like seven hours hungover, maybe even having to wheel your bag around.

Like, oh, we can go to this, we can go get lunch.

And then you look at your clock, you're like, I still have five more hours before I have to be at the airport.

Yeah, that's a terrible place.

We're going to just find a place to sit down and read for a little bit.

Yeah.

Because all you want to do when you're hungover is lay down.

It's like you were given, you had a bed and you had to give it up.

Sneaky, there are some vacation hangovers that would make this list, I think.

So obviously.

You could figure out a word.

Yeah, if you're at a base.

Just an exercise vacation.

Or, yeah, if you have an activity on the hike, yeah, you're doing a hike or you're going to see a museum.

Yep.

Whatever that would be, that's a bad hangover.

All right.

What else for honorable mentions?

So I had, so opposite of the kids' birthday, Dizzy World, I feel like, was stronger pick.

Parenting with no set plans is a really bad hangover, like really bad, where you don't have anything planned for your kids on a Saturday or Sunday and you're hungover.

That sucks.

Because then you're just like, what the fuck do we do?

We had at the Super Bowl, sitting in direct sunlight watching your team lose.

Yes.

That would be a bad hangover.

Yes.

We had getting pub stomped with your boys.

Yep, that'd be bad.

Hank, do you want to say number 13?

Because I don't know what this means, but I love it.

Behind enemy lines.

Imagine waking up hungover behind enemy lines.

That would suck.

That would be horrible.

That would suck.

You're absolutely right.

Worst case scenario.

You're hungover and you want to just go home and not only can you not go home, you're like...

kidnapped.

There's a war.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're a prisoner of war.

People are trying to shoot at you.

Similar to the one you said about the sun in your eyes, I think just being hungover like thousands of miles from home after watching your team lose a big game.

I've had that a few times in my life, and it's fucking brutal.

Where you like wake up and you're like, now I got to get home.

And it's the hangover, but it's also just thinking about the loss.

Yep.

Also, being super hungover and going into a really big game also can tell

from experience.

Yeah, we also very bad.

Actually, my buddy and I once, it was like a combo because we had to leave our hotel after the Rose Bowl, and we just walked to LAX like 15 miles because we're like, we have nine hours till our flight and we just walked.

That's tough.

And it's not a walk you should do.

We had in Hank's hotel room the morning of the Super Bowl with puke on your shirt.

We had to.

Means and I almost just did all of my bad day over.

Oh, you remember when you lost your phone?

Yep,

that was the same day.

I'm surprised court wasn't put out there.

We had court.

Court would be bad.

We had DMV.

Church.

yeah i also thought uh

zach said gender reveal party yeah

would suck okay well i feel like that's okay yeah you're gonna get some adrenaline that's just like a party yeah you're gonna get an adrenaline boost yeah contact sports contact sports um i thought about this just now but at like a doc like a like a physical and you have to explain to your doctor how much you drink in a week while you smell like booze that would be tough uh we had at a really loud loud brunch.

Yeah, so we thought of that, but then we're like, that's a drink brunch.

It's kind of a drink, but there's always somebody at the brunch that is violently hungover, especially if it's like a big group trip.

And it's always the worst experience for them.

Yeah.

We literally discussed that one.

We're like, but you'd have to be drinking.

Just outside on a sunny day with no sunglasses.

Yep.

How about you are.

How about this one?

Because I was thinking about this one.

I feel like it would be hell on earth, but also you're like, you kind of sign up for it.

Outdoor music festival, one that you like, a bonnaroo, where you sleep over, but you then have to deal with port-a-potties.

Like, you're up at 6 a.m.

Yeah.

You just got to get drunk again again.

Dentist.

You've done that almost puked.

That's a good one.

On a bus.

On a bus.

Going to the dentist.

Bus ride is pretty bad.

Yep.

Moving.

Moving is a good one.

I feel like

you can plan better than that, but I have definitely moved, hungover.

And it's bad.

You have to do yard work

hungover?

That one is not.

Yard work is like kind of gives you a little fresh air, but yeah, that would be bad.

Depends on what type.

Are we talking like bagging leaves?

Like, that's, you know, that kind of fun.

You jump in the leaf pile.

Trimming trees.

I think mowing the lawn would be okay.

Yeah.

I was super hungover at my own graduation in college.

Yeah.

That was not, that was not fun.

That was everyone.

Yeah.

Just sitting, listening to the most boring person in the world talk.

I didn't go to my college graduation.

I graduated in the winter, and I told my parents there just wasn't a winter graduation.

And there was.

There was.

Let's see.

We did laser tag.

Thanksgiving.

Thanksgiving is a tough hangover day.

And that is one that everyone's hungover for.

Like having to

be with family all day, you just start drinking again, but it is kind of a tough one.

I never understood why Wednesday was so much bigger of a night than that Friday.

Yeah.

That Friday seems like a much better idea.

Yeah.

In a random person's house.

That's happened.

Sure.

Yep.

You guys have had that?

Yep.

Oh, yeah.

Girlfriend's roommate's bed.

That was another one that Niger wanted us to pick.

That's a good one.

That was a tough one.

I once slept in an abandoned frat house in Charleston, South Carolina on a bachelor party.

That was not fun.

It was so cold.

I've never been more cold in my life.

Did you have a blanket?

No.

It was abandoned.

So on the ground?

Yeah, I was sleeping on the ground.

We couldn't get back.

It was before Ubers.

We couldn't get back back to the house.

And we were just like, fuck it.

We'll just try to sleep here.

And then I woke up and I was shivering when I woke up.

That's very spooky.

Yeah, it was not good.

I'm not proud of it.

Shout out to house.

I don't even know what it was.

I had Qatar on my list.

Yeah.

Not a good place.

Not a good place.

Escape room, Zach said.

Yeah.

Which difficult.

No, I actually think that's a great

spinning.

That's a really good one.

Any sort of team building activity?

Yeah.

Yeah.

The hospital.

The hospital.

Good pick.

Yeah.

Museum with kids.

Museum, just in general, is terrible.

Any place you have to stand.

Shopping?

Shopping.

Other?

Yeah.

Terrible.

Like an Ikea trip or like a Home Depot trip.

The container store.

I don't understand the container store.

Don't get it.

It's terrible.

All right, I think we got a good list.

Amusement park.

Yeah, that was our Disney World kind of

the Gravitron specifically.

Steve?

Steve Wozniaki.

The Gambling Cave?

Why do you...

After Tua throws an interception in Franks in Town.

Oh, that's one of the one.

That's a really good one.

That's one of one.

That's relatable, too.

It is champagne problems.

Being in the gambling cave hung over sometimes can be hell.

Yeah.

What about the U.S.

Open in the Gambling Cave when you fall asleep for like the most important holes.

That wasn't even a hangover.

Oh, really?

That was just a nap?

That was a healthy body.

That was just you on your Mu Dang shit.

Yeah.

You got to get solid aid.

He's Mu Dang.

All right.

Yeah, Steve.

What do you got?

I don't know.

I'd have to see the graphic.

I don't have any strong opinions on this.

I also don't want to get into a habit of doing this after every Mount Rushmore.

But I like memes nice picks.

Okay.

All right.

Kind of soft, but that's really soft.

Incredibly soft.

Sounds like you don't have conviction.

No.

Well, I mean, I had a conviction, and then I was right, and you still got angry about it.

Not angry at all.

I'm not mad at that.

You're angry.

You texted in the group.

That was a scheduled text.

I scheduled that text.

For what reason?

Just check in.

I thought if something happened in the Phillies in the trade deadline, that was bullshit.

Yeah,

you were duped on that one.

But, I mean, that happens a lot in the chat of like when one of our teams makes a big move, it's like, hey, congrats.

And I had no service where I was at, so I couldn't, like, Twitter wasn't reloading, but I was still receiving texts.

So

it was a bad spot.

It was a bad spot.

It was something so stupid like that.

Like, I don't give a fuck.

It's a great way to fuck with your boys, though.

Just send them a chance to get away with that.

No, that is a good way to fuck with your boys.

Wait, what is this text you sent us?

The Zed Us Never Dead?

That was the night that I was super fucked up and then had to go to practice the next day.

That was the night that people thought I I was homeless.

All right.

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Really, really cool guy.

Like, he's the man.

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And now here is Trevor Lawrence.

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest.

It is Jacksonville Jaguars starting quarterback, Trevor Lawrence.

Trevor, long time coming.

I know that we've wanted to have you on for a while.

It's good to see you.

Let's start with a kind of easy question.

How are you feeling health-wise?

Because obviously last we saw you, that was fucked up, that hit.

Are you feeling okay?

Feeling good now.

Yeah, I recovered.

Thankfully, you know, I'm out playing golf, which is a good sign.

So I had left shoulder surgery in December.

So between that and then our daughter was born January 4th.

So it was like back to back.

It's crazy for the last few months, but feeling great now.

Shoulders all healed up, ready to go.

How does that affect a right-handed quarterback if they have a left shoulder injury?

Because we hear about it.

Like, I think Baker had one a couple of years ago.

Yeah.

We were like, oh, it's just not his throwing arm.

He'll be fine.

He can go out there.

Well, it's like with getting hit for one, I mean, that's one, obviously, big part of it.

But I think throwing too, like, you use a lot of rotation in that left side.

Like, you're straining and pulling that side through.

So, like, I played against Houston when I got knocked out of that game.

Like, I played in even that game, like, I had some plays where it's like I couldn't throw it out at one or to because I couldn't really like pull with my left side.

So it's just all right arm.

So it does affect.

I mean, obviously like minor stuff you can get away with and play and you're fine.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So feeling healthy, that's good.

I feel like this is a big year for you.

Do you feel that like not pressure-wise, but like, hey, this is a year like if I'm going in healthy, I feel like, you know, you got a new coach, offensive-minded.

Do you feel that?

Or is it just like

same as every year?

You try to treat them all the same, but I mean, realistically, like where I'm at in my career, I'm going to year five, you know, been an up and down

so far, the first four years for me.

And just our team and our situation I've had, you know, this is my third head coach I've had, a lot of turnover, a lot of change, but I really feel good about the situation we're in.

I love Coach Cohen and the whole staff and everyone that's in, all the guys that were brought in free agency, just good dudes, good players too.

But I really feel like we've...

done some great things this offseason as far as just speaking offensively, like the changes we've made, the system we're running, I have a lot of confidence in.

This system is, I mean, tried and true.

The LA and, you know, Minnesota runs it now with O'Connell, all those, those teams, and they had a lot of success with it.

So it's a great system for quarterbacks.

And yeah, I mean, like where I'm at in my career, year five, like it's time to, time to go and start winning consistently and be not just that team where it's like, you know, you're always like, no one really takes you seriously.

You know, you want to be that team that's always competing for playoff Super Bowls and you're in the hunt.

So that's, of course, that's, I mean, I see it through that lens of like, yeah, it's year five.

And, you know, I feel like this is like getting into my prime.

Like, I got a lot of good years left ahead of me, and I need to really turn it on.

And I think what we've built around me and what they've done this offseason has been a great start.

Yeah, you guys have some weapons.

Defensive back, Travis Hunter, wide receiver, Travis Hunter.

He's our guy.

He's our guy.

I like the handshake that you guys.

Did you guys talk to Travis?

I saw something.

No, so we did on him to win the Heisman at 40 to 1 in August.

And then we just talked about him on every show.

That's pretty awesome.

That was a great bet.

That was a great bet to the point where our fans hated us for it, but we won the bet.

That was a lock.

Yeah.

He was clearly the the best player in college.

Actually, I was looking it up.

I actually, we've been doing this Heisman thing for a while where we're like, oh, we have a pretty big voice.

We're just going to bet on something and hope we can talk our way into it.

I actually think that you might have been the start of it for me in 2020.

You should have won the Heisman because I went back.

You had me?

I went back and I looked at my tweets, and it's literally like every day I'm just like, oh, yeah, Trevor Lawrence is playing great.

He should win the Heisman.

I played like nine games that year, but he had the COVID year and I missed two.

Yeah.

So it was like, yeah, it was.

Devontae had a a great year, though.

But you were

second place and you weren't too far behind.

Yeah, no, that was a wild year.

But yeah, no, Travis is a stud.

No, I had your back there, so.

Appreciate it.

Yeah, I was all.

So, yeah, who came up with the handshake between you and you and Travis?

So it all started with,

we did an Adidas commercial together.

And it's a sneak peek.

I don't know when that's going to come out.

Probably soon.

And that was part of it.

So it was like, it's a little bit manufactured, but

yeah, he's good at that stuff.

And I let him dance and do all that uh that commercial was a little bit of that i'm like all right he's got it yeah so he's he's got a big personality he's got a lot of expectations i think they said uh he's a culture changer but also a sport changer like he was going to change the future of football have you seen something out of him where you're like man this guy this guy is transcendent

yeah i mean i think that's uh

I mean, that's a big, that's a lot to think about as far as

player.

But I will say, just my interactions with him, I mean, he's unbelievable as far as the condition and shape he's in.

I mean, this guy can run all day, plays DB, plays receiver.

Like,

he'll run a post route or whatever and say, we'll miss it, or I want to run it differently.

I'll run again.

Just come right back.

And other guys, I mean, everyone I've played with is like, no one does that.

It's not shade on anybody else, but it's like no one's trying to run 50 yards full speed again right when they just did it.

So it's stuff like that.

He's a...

super hard worker, just a good guy.

Like you can tell he's, he doesn't have a lot of like,

you know, issues going on and stuff where it's like he's distracted like he just seems very focused and like You know sticks to himself.

He's great is there any part of you that when you're like training camps coming up Are you gonna try to pick on him as a DB so that they're like he's not ready as a DB and he's got to play with I said that so his first day over at DB I was like we're throwing every ball at you.

Yeah

He's he's pretty freaking good at corner too though, but yeah, he's he's uh I mean, it's like a guy like him, he could do whatever he wanted to do.

I mean, it's going to be interesting in the NFL.

Like, how

much can you play both ways?

I don't know.

It's been done before, but it's been a while.

So, I mean, if there's a guy that can do it, he can do it.

But we'll see how that plays out.

But yeah, definitely.

That first day, I was like, I'm throwing every ball at you.

So you don't, so you come back to offense.

Yeah.

So the,

wait, no, go ahead.

I forgot the question I was going to ask.

Fuck.

Okay, I got you.

I had a question.

I got it pulled up.

God damn it.

No, I had it.

Fucking, it just escaped me.

I'm such a fucking shithead.

We talk about it.

Let you know when I get it.

Obviously, we talk.

Oh, I remembered it.

Okay, there we go.

I'll go after.

Okay.

I feel like it'd be hard to do that.

I got it in my head, okay?

Trevor, who would you like to ask this next question?

That was my next question.

I feel like you got it.

He's got it.

Okay.

He's up now.

All right.

He's on deck.

All right.

So, when we have a quarterback on the show, we say the things to them that we say on the show when they're not in front of us.

All right.

So we have our annual quarterbacks rankings list that we put together last week.

All right, let's hear it.

Where do you think you should be?

It's a tough question.

Tough question.

You know, if I'm obviously I've only played eight games last year.

Yep.

My best season.

So you basing it off last season?

Yep, right now.

I mean, I think I should be top 10 quarterback, but where I think you guys have me at, do you want that answer?

Yeah.

I bet you guys have me at

15.

14.

14.

But close.

That's the good quarterbacks tier.

Yeah.

We listed you as a good quarterback.

Okay, I appreciate that.

And we also did the

tier below that.

We'll change these rankings from game to game.

Yeah.

So like Jordan Love.

Yeah.

Sometimes he'll be great, sometimes it'll drop down.

I can't imagine you spend too much time just thinking to yourself, like, what number of quarterback am I in the league?

Yeah, I usually look at all those and just think about those.

Yeah.

Not too much time.

There's a lot of rankings out there, I'm sure.

Yeah, it's great.

All right.

The question I forgot that now I remember.

Better be a banger.

Why didn't you guys give any space to your dad on draft night?

You were squishing the ball so tight.

That was.

Did you post something?

Yeah, I posted it.

I mean, you guys.

What did you say?

What was the.

I said, you have it.

I remember this, and I was dying.

I mean, it was crazy.

I said, can we get Trevor's dad a little nutspace?

Talk about squeak.

I mean, he was.

Oh, my gosh.

That's.

I feel like.

I'm no disrespect to your dad, but you guys basically made it like he doesn't have a penis or balls.

Like, the way you made him sit isn't.

Well, I'm here, so I can, I think it worked out.

That's true.

That's true.

Good point.

Good proof.

Dad's just such a nice guy.

He was selfless.

He wanted to give the couch away to me, Marissa, my mom.

just just a stud it's insane it is that picture's crazy did you see it after and you're like oh yeah he's hitting this one right here he's also he's also sitting there and you can tell he's not comfortable yeah no you guys squeezed the hell

so did you apologize after no i did i did i think i showed him that after i'm like he was just like shaking his head didn't even say anything

yeah i mean great team player that's a great dad selfless man yeah He basically was like, I'll just sit here and just crunch my nuts.

Sacrifice the nuts for the draft.

Thank God you got picked first.

Imagine if you had

dropped the second round and he was just

being castrated live on TV all night,

five hours.

That's true.

That is, at least you did that for him.

He hasn't had any more kids since then.

True.

Might have stopped it.

That actually is.

That's a good point.

You do have it.

I'll talk to him after this.

Make sure he's all right.

Hey, how are you shooting?

He says, Dad.

Check on him.

You have a

brother, by the way.

Yes.

Your brother seems like, I don't know really anything about him besides the fact that he's an artist and he looks way cooler than me.

And so whenever I see him, I'm like, that's a guy I could chill with.

Yeah.

He's, I always say, my brother's way cooler than me.

So we're, I mean, we're very similar personalities, but just different interests.

And so

he's an artist, doesn't care about sports.

Like, he'll watch my stuff, but like, that's it.

Like, he probably doesn't even watch the Super Bowl or anything like that.

He doesn't watch anything.

So he's, it's cool having a brother like that, and we're super close, like best friends.

But yeah, we, we talk the exact same, but he just looks completely different.

Like when you were growing up, was there a moment where he was like, I'm not into sports anymore?

Because it is kind of crazy to have a NFL quarterback, a starting NFL quarterback, and then a brother who is same size and he's an artist.

Yeah, he was, so he's four and a half years older than me.

And my parents knew like all my whole family's into sports.

My dad, my mom, my uncles, all of them.

So they're all into sports.

My brother, they got him into sports when he was young.

And this is actually a great segue.

He, there's some great stories about my brother and like going to the wrong dugout and baseball games as a kid, like playing in the dirt.

I remember going to some of his like wreck basketball games.

He's sleeping on the bench.

The coach is like pissed.

It's like, get off.

He's just like waking up.

You know, so it's crazy stuff.

So then they eventually were like, all right, finish the season and then you're done.

Like you don't have to play anymore.

So he just, after, I don't know, maybe he was like nine or 10, he never, he didn't play sports.

Well, it's a credit to your parents because like to have two sons that are that different, that's really cool.

It is.

It is.

And he's been very successful.

Him and his wife do art together, which is cool.

They work on all their pieces together.

So it's like for them to, I mean, that's a hard, it's hard to be a successful artist.

So they've done, they've done a good job.

So do you have any of his art in your house?

I do.

I have a few things.

I have a huge, I wish I had a picture.

I probably do on my phone, but like a huge jaguar tiger.

It's like crossing through this like doorway, like changing from a tiger.

It's pretty sick.

It matches like the office.

It's like this dark green.

It's sick.

So he gave that, or him and broke gave that to us uh a few years ago so that's awesome um i got a tough question for you all right it's gonna be hard for you to probably explain it because we're just regular guys um dabo can you explain him to us

um i can try yeah i can try from the outside you understand he he's quirky but obviously he's a great coach win national titles like you you know you win a national title with him he wins other ones what what is it that like makes him tick and and what what is special about him he is

first first of all, I love the guy, like genuinely.

Like, I'm not just saying that because I've played for him.

Like, he is awesome.

And I say, too, like, there's a lot of people, there's a ton of people that love him.

There's a lot of people that don't like him just for whatever reason.

But, like, what you see really is what you get with him.

Like, he doesn't, he doesn't put on a fake personality.

That's why sometimes he'll say stuff in the media.

I remember when I was there, and he'd say stuff in the media, and people would kill him for it.

And he just doesn't care.

He's just always honest.

And just his energy.

You know, he's not like a, he's not an offensive coordinator.

He wasn't a coordinator.

He was a position coach straight to head coach.

Went from receivers coach to interim head coach.

That was his transition.

So he wasn't, he's not like the biggest.

He understands the game.

He's not a huge X's and O's guys, but he's like motivator, vision.

Like our team meetings would be so long.

But I mean, there's times where it's like, all right, this is, this is long.

Yeah.

But honestly, like he kept our attention.

Great motivator.

Like he would, he would make you believe like you could do anything.

Like our team, we'd be like, dude, we're going to, like, it didn't matter who we're playing, like, we're going to kill these dudes.

And, like, it could be a team that's better than us.

I mean, I didn't have much on our team.

We had some good teams at Clemson, but like, he was awesome.

I still talked to him, like, once a month.

Yeah, I mean, and obviously, like, Clemson, before Dabo gets there, like, they were good, but it was also the joke of like Clemsoning and, you know, always being good, but not great.

And then he took it to another level.

So it's clear.

For sure.

And he also, the thing that Dabbo deserves a ton of credit for is he broke up.

Like, he was the guy who won other than Nick Saban in that era.

Like, Like Nick Saban dominated college football.

Yeah.

And Dabbo was like, no, I got teams that can compete.

100%.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like, I feel like with head coaches, it's always a balance of like you have some head coaches that are just very cerebral.

They just think football and they kind of miss that motivational leadership aspect of it.

And then he is kind of like the opposite.

And I think that there's, there has to be like a fusion.

So if you're like that, he's done a great job with his staff.

Like he's hired, I loved all of our coaches at Clemson, offensive coordinators, position coaches obviously we got great players he's a great recruiter like you want to go play for him it really is like he sells the family atmosphere of clemson and then you get there and it really is like that like it's a it's a great place to go to school um

but man he's he's a stud i love him yeah did you use the slide in the facility i did i got yelled at not like every day though i got yelled at for going down the slide so you went down it yeah players only oh and they were like someone yelled at me like you're not supposed to do that i was like well i'm already down it's probably uh it's probably like an insurance it's probably a liability thing yeah i just saw a slide and I went.

Break something and sue the

player's only slide?

Like, you didn't have a hard, fast rule?

No, I mean, I think it's like

people in the building, like players.

I think coaches can use it, you know, like, but

coaches with Tabo on there.

Oh, yeah, he'd go down it.

He'd probably go down it just like for fun.

Yeah.

You're in the

between meetings.

He's also a great TikToker.

Yeah.

Hickory Dickory Doc.

That's a classic.

That is a classic.

Hickory Dickory dock.

The mouse ran up the clock.

Coach Sweeney's got that drip and now he's on TikTok.

What was your reaction when you saw that?

That's a tough one.

With the gloves on and the pullback.

Hickory dickory dock.

The mouse went up the clock.

Coach Sweeney got that drip and now he's on TikTok.

But that's like actually him.

Just like cringy stuff.

And he has no shame.

Yeah.

I like that your answer is that like he doesn't, he doesn't hear the outside noise because I think guys like that, they can just stay themselves and they don't get changed by people being like, that's lame or

weird.

And it's like his belief is so strong in what he's doing.

It's like

that stuff doesn't affect him.

There's a lot of people where when things start getting tough, they kind of waver and go up and down.

And he's just always the same.

He's always on 10.

He never changes.

If your coach is going viral for being cringy on TikTok, that's way better than your coach going viral for, I don't know, like grabbing somebody's butt after a game.

That would be awkward.

That would be really awkward.

Hypothetically.

It'd be hard to tell you.

Hypothetically,

hypothetically.

Yeah.

It would be a tough, it would be a tough team meeting for sure.

Yeah.

Dude, I don't know how you thought of that.

It's all hypothetical.

I bet the group chats that you might be on would be kind of crazy waking up to those in the morning.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Crazy.

Crazy rookie year for sure.

Your new coach,

Coach Cohen, who we had on, had a lot of fun with him.

When you first met him, did you bring up the Duval thing?

I feel like you got to do it just to be like, hey, I'm going to say it once and then we can move on.

So I, but I met him before that.

Okay.

And I was, I was there that day, but I missed.

No, no, no.

I was in there.

I was in that press conference, actually.

Okay.

So it was like, there was, there was a bunch of the, I think there was like five or six of the guys that were in town that went and they all met him and talked to him.

Then we went to the press conference.

And yeah, we, uh, I honestly didn't give him too much.

I didn't give him, I didn't give him too much heat on it because I know everybody else was.

Yeah.

So I let him breathe a little bit on it, but I think he's coached up on it.

Did you guys, did he do one on?

Yeah.

It improved.

Yeah.

Same one or the, or the.

No, it improved.

We kind of talked him through it.

It was also the eyes.

The eyes when he was.

That's what I told him.

It was the eyebrows, which was the one.

It's actually impressive that he can do that.

I know.

I know.

I can't do it.

Did somebody teach you how to say Duval?

Yeah, it's like, I think when you get there, when you're drafted, you got to do a big one on camera.

I don't know if they still do it.

I haven't seen the rookies do it this year.

Yeah, you got to get it.

There's been some funny ones.

What's the trick to it?

You got to go deep.

Yeah.

Do

you got to deep?

Yeah, that's good.

That was good.

Do you feel additional pressure carrying on the legacy of Blake Bortles?

Good question.

Blake is the man.

He is the man.

He is the man.

He is the man around Jacksonville.

Yeah.

I've not met one person that doesn't like Blake.

Yeah.

He is the man.

And I haven't, unfortunately, I haven't hung out with him that much, but I see him from time to time, like golfing or at the beach or whatever.

He's super cool.

Brandon Lender, I don't know if you guys know that name.

He was a center, but him and I played with Brandon Lender my rookie year, but they came in together, together, him and Blake.

And Linder's the man, but they're like best buds.

So you tell me all about Blake and a bunch of funny, crazy stories.

But dude, he's awesome.

Everyone, the boat.

Yeah, he's the boat.

That's what everybody knows him as.

Would you let us stay at your house without you being there?

Yeah, I would.

Oh, okay, cool.

You too?

Yeah.

And our crew, yeah.

Yeah.

Because that's what Blake did for us.

Uh-huh.

He did that for you.

Was it at the beach?

It was at the beach.

We went to his house.

Text beach?

We texted.

We were like, hey, we're here.

He's like, oh, shit, I forgot you guys were coming.

Like, I'm out to dinner.

Here's the code.

Just let yourself in.

I'll do that.

Yeah, it was so cool.

You were like, it wasn't like, oh, stay at my house for the week.

No, we stayed for a night.

Okay.

But he was up for a night.

Yeah.

He came back.

Sure.

Yeah.

No, definitely.

That's just the type of guy Blake is.

Yeah.

No, that checks out.

I love that interview with him with that girl on

the construction worker.

Well, and then he retired from the NFL to build his own house.

Yeah.

Rip SIGs and do construction.

He loves a screen.

He loves trying to to be friends with the construction workers dude i love that yeah yeah i got some buddies that play uh pick up basketball with him like every week yeah yeah i haven't made it out there yet but i heard it's a great time yeah yeah uh i want to talk about the uh playoff game the comeback incredible game how did you not quit because i would have quit i would have been like this is crazy down so much this is pointless i think uh i mean i wouldn't i wouldn't quit i mean that's yeah well that's a different

nfl yeah yeah i wouldn't wouldn't quit but i mean

it was looking bad.

I mean, it really was.

I think that drive at the end of the first half, or I know, that drive was huge.

We went and scored right before halftime.

So it was 27-0.

And we had four turnovers, like, through four picks every possession.

Finally scored, and we were like, all right, we did something right.

And then, I mean, you got to think about, too, like the defense.

We gave up three points in the second half.

Yeah.

So it's like, if we gave up a touchdown, we lose.

So they had to lock in, too.

So we, and then we scored every possession.

Yeah.

It was an incredible game.

Dude, I don't know.

And we didn't even say much in the locker room.

It was just like, we scored and it was like, all right, it's one possession at a time.

Like, we got to just find a way to get back in it.

And then we scored another time.

We got to stop.

And then now it's, you know, it's 27, 14 or 30, 14.

I was like, that's not bad.

Like, now we're back in the game.

And we just got hot.

It was almost one of those things.

I've been in the position too, when you're winning, it's like you're trying so hard to not lose.

I think that's what L.A.

did.

It's like you're trying so hard to not lose the game.

You lose the game.

You start calling the game differently.

Yeah, like offensively.

I don't know what they're doing on offense.

I didn't watch all that stuff necessarily, but even defensively, got like pretty conservative.

Like the first half, they were just like crazy pressures, crazy, funky stuff that they haven't done before.

And they got us on a few things.

And then the second half, it's like they were just like, all right, we're going to back up.

We're going to play a lot of zone.

We're just going to try to.

And there was just too much time.

Yeah.

Like everyone, everyone on that defense looked like they were scared to make a mistake.

Like they knew that you guys could do it.

And you knew that you could do it.

Yeah,

once we scored and made it 14, whatever, 27 27 or 30 whatever it was they were like they weren't talking at all yeah they were they were they were talking yeah the pressure so much in the first half because we were they were killing us and then we scored a couple times and they're like saying nothing the whole defense is just like oh god let's just not lose the game yeah hopefully the clock ticks faster right now yeah our co-worker john gruden he he came on here and he he told us about andrew luck and how he had the best uh snap cadence that he'd ever heard did a great impression of it uh and then we had andrew luck come on and he did it in person he made me and big cat jump off sides.

But is that something that like you're going to the NFL?

Do you work on your snap cadence?

I had to work on it because

I did a lot of clapping.

Did you do the claps?

Yeah.

I did the clapping.

Disgusting.

Pretty effective.

You know, it sounds the exact same on one or two.

Right.

Yeah.

But no, so I had to work.

I had never, so I never called plays in the huddle besides goal line.

Like goal line, you get big personnels.

You go under center.

hand it to Christian Wilkins or something like fullback.

Like that stuff, you couldn't huddle, call the play.

But I never went under center or called a play or did a cadence really until I got to the NFL so all that was like blew my mind like some of the play calls that are 20 words like that was a huge adjustment was that the hardest change or was it because I mean obviously everyone talks about the speed but what was that the hardest jump from college to NFL probably

I mean yeah the this the speed all that stuff like the margin for error is a lot smaller the guys just aren't as open like you're throwing to typically like you're not throwing to wide open guys.

That's a change.

But I think yeah, the mental

like, I guess what you have to do as a quarterback mentally is a lot different than college, like what I was asked to do.

So that was a big change, like even the run game, like changing stuff, knowing exactly what's going on in the run game, like changing the...

the point, adjusting it, getting to like your second play, running two, we never ran two plays in college.

Like we would do the fake cadence and then look at the sideline, like, does the coach want to change the play?

Yeah.

If not, you just run it, you know, like stuff like that.

But, and we signaled everything.

But like having the two plays in one adjustments in the run game, and then you change it to a play action or a pass, like all that stuff was a huge adjustment for me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Back to your overall health right now.

I say that you're feeling good.

We're feeling maybe as healthy as we've felt in a long time.

Have the Jacksonville Jaguars made the investment in an injury cart so that you don't have to walk two miles injury cart?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

Cart.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We have some.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

That was was tough.

We felt bad for you at the time.

We were watching on TV and we're like, put this man on a cart.

Dude, that was

like, so I was kind of close to that one tunnel.

I don't know if you guys, where I was out in the field, like I was close to the one tunnel.

I'm like, I'm going to walk off.

I'll be fine.

Then we're barely walk off.

But then when I got in the tunnel, it was

a Monday night game, I think.

Yeah, it was.

It was in Cincy, but I think it was Monday night.

It's a primetime game.

So they had cameras in the tunnels.

So that's where they got the money shot of me like limping down the, I didn't think there was any cameras in there.

Yeah.

So they offered me a cart i will say but you're

you're a tough guy tough guy i mean i shouldn't have been knowing that that like what turned of it like i should have just gotten the cart but i was like i was like if i'm fine and i got carted off like that's like something you don't want to do yeah that's the worst yeah that's true it's like it's like that uh who did that was it uh paul pierce paul pierce yeah yeah yeah that's like he pooped himself yeah

he did yeah it's like you get carted off then you come back i had a guy in college you carted off like gives the thumbs up like you know like like, I'm all right, guys.

Like, yeah, then he comes back out, like, seriously.

It's like, dude, honestly, like, try to avoid that.

If I was in the NFL, very first play, I would get stretchered off and then I'd be like, oh, I'm actually not hurt.

I'm hurt, but I'm not like injured.

Okay, I'll try again.

I just do that every play.

Do it every game.

Everyone thinks you're done.

Then you just come right back.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Our friend Trill Weathers always, I always think about his funny tweet where he's like, if he got injured, he wouldn't do the thumbs up.

He'd do the thumbs down.

Cause it's like, dude, this sucks.

Yeah.

Like, I'm getting carded someone breaks their leg and gets the thumbs up you're like it's not good it's the best when like it obviously sucks when injuries happen but when uh one of the uh like the chain gang gets hurt rolled up on and they they give the thumbs up and it's like all right cool we're worried

it's probably a guy right behind you that's good that could do it yeah yeah right exactly next

those guys i i feel bad for some those guys that roll or like uh camera someone that's a camera guy that just gets blasted yeah because they're just doing their job and then they they like lose focus or they're focused on the play and then boom.

I ran over a trainer in college,

student trainer.

Like, I got pushed out of bounds.

So I did like the stumble where I stayed up and just full speed hit her.

She had a concussion.

She's out like two weeks.

Oh my God.

So I don't, she did not give the thumbs up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thumbs down that.

Yeah.

Security guards that are facing away from the play, like they're looking at the stands.

Yeah.

They always get like the legs taken out.

Oh my gosh.

So it's in the end zone.

Go out the back of the end zone.

Oh, yeah.

Speaking of your stadium, do you ever just like look up at the pool pool and be like what's going on there yeah the pools are funny you get like a sometimes people's you know when you're in the water and their legs look crazy yeah you'll see that i've seen that in games it's wild that's because they're wearing jeans yeah sometimes there's jeans yeah

those pools i mean i'm sure they do a great job cleaning them but i don't know if i'd trust them we've been in them yeah

in jacksonville yeah how is it it was great awesome doug rohan was a lifeguard yeah doug roan got in it with us So this was, it wasn't like, it was offseason.

It was offseason, yeah.

But we got in the pool.

That's awesome.

Full jeans.

I think they're keeping them with the new build.

Good.

That would be good.

It's so unique.

You got to keep it.

Yeah.

It's our thing.

Do you enjoy playing in London?

I do.

I've gotten used to it.

I mean, I've gone four times now, and in the last two years, we've played two games in a row there.

Yeah.

So I kind of enjoy it.

I mean, now, like, I have a six-month-old daughter, so that's

a little different, like being away from home.

You know, before it'd be like Marissa would sometimes come out.

So it's great.

Like, you know, maybe see her once.

And then being in London is great.

You get a cooler weather.

We stay at a sick place.

It's called the Grove out like in the country.

It's a great hotel.

So we have a good setup and we've kind of gotten used to it.

But I think guys with like families, it's tougher being away from home.

But we only got the one game this year.

We play LA out there.

Okay.

What's the sleep schedule like when you go out there?

That's how we base our bets.

It's like if a team leaves early in the week, then we're like, okay, they're going to be adjusting.

So we always leave late.

Huh?

And we usually play pretty well out there.

Yeah.

Which is interesting.

But we always leave Thursday night and land Friday morning.

So that, I mean, yeah, I feel like that's that, like, for most of the teams, it's either you got to leave like Sunday night right after the game or like you guys do it, it's the middle teams that like get all kind of fucked up.

Yeah, there's like two thoughts.

So we're going this year, new staff with Liam and the whole crew, like we're going on Monday night.

Okay.

So we're going to get there earlier.

So I don't know.

I haven't done that before.

I don't think that's bad to get adjusted either.

Because you are, you're, you're, you're pretty tired.

Like Friday, you get in, you do like a walkthrough, and guys that barely slept on the plane, and you're just trying to catch up.

Saturday, you get the day off, and then you play Sunday, and then you come home.

So it's a quick turnaround, but there's some arguments to like, you know, can you really get adjusted in time, even if you go early?

Like, I don't know.

I don't really know the science behind it.

Yeah, going back to the playoff win against the Chargers, the next week, were you aware that you were undefeated?

on Saturdays going into that game?

Yeah, I'd heard that.

I didn't know that.

In your entire career.

Yeah, 36 times.

Pretty crazy.

Insane.

That's an insane stat.

Yeah,

I wish that would have held up.

Yeah.

That would have been, that would have been fun.

Yeah.

Yeah, crazy.

It's a dumb question, but do you think maybe you didn't lose enough?

On Saturdays, especially?

Well, just, yeah.

Yeah.

I know that sometimes if a guy, like, they don't lose at all, and then they get to the NFL, they're like, oh, shit, you lose all the time in the NFL because everyone's really good.

Yeah, I don't.

I mean, I think it's definitely an adjustment.

You're so used to winning, so it can be frustrating.

You know, you're not, you kind of have a, I don't want to say you have a different perspective on

i guess how hard it is to win when you've only won like in high school we won a lot in college we won a lot and then the margin is so small in the nfl and then it's a 17 game season so it's like when was the last undefeated team the dolphins in yeah 72 72 yeah i mean so that's been the last undefeated team so it doesn't happen really so being able to

flush it and like play well the next week, I feel like I kind of, I got a good dose of that my rookie year on trying to bounce back and like, because we went, what, three and 14.

So that definitely got me adjusted.

But

still, like, you want to have the mindset like you're going to win every game.

So it's a fine line, but then after that is over, you got to flush it, win or loss.

So it's a good point.

I mean, I think there's something too, though, like, you want to be, like, you want to have guys that have won, though.

And like, you want to have that culture of guys that are, like, you don't also want a bunch of guys that have only lost.

Like, you know, you want to build your team around guys that have won.

Right.

I think there's two sides to it yeah you just have to have to be able to like figure out how to flush it like do you for sure do you flush it before you get home or does it take you like you have to go to sleep it takes me yeah i have to like i have to watch it like i have to watch it when i get home i know a lot of guys watch it then that night yeah if it's usually it's up if it's up i'll do i won't like take a long time but i'll take like 20 minutes and i'll just flick through it because there's like certain plays where i'm like this one what what happened on this one because you can't see on the sideline it's just pictures right it's like pre-snap middle of the play and then maybe the very end like you so it's hard to piece together everything but i have to see like what went wrong or this decision i made like what what did i what happened here i saw i thought i saw this but it was something else like that helps me sleep when i can do that and see it and be like all right might have played terrible but like i can at least flush it and move on yeah does it ever get clogged when you're trying to flush it you wake up the next morning you're like shit sometimes this is a tough one it was a tough game yeah sometimes my it goes into monday really we'll like watch it we'll have some meetings monday then you'll really you can't flush it completely.

Can't flush it too hard.

Right.

You got to go watch it again.

Right.

You're doing, you're doing it.

You're just doing like the flush because you're like, you know, this, like, if you have a really bad lush, like, you know, there's a big, big one.

Yeah.

I do one flush and then another flush later.

You do the pink flush.

Yeah.

It's like the small.

Yeah, yeah, right, right, right.

It's like the small button and then you do the big button on Monday.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You want to still be able to smell it, right?

Yeah.

Reminder.

You want to linger in it a little bit.

I clogged my hotel room toilet last night and there's no plunger, so I had to put my hand in a plastic plastic bag and

i don't know why i shared that

i don't know why i shared that sometimes you got i don't know i shouldn't have shared that i should not have shared that

do you flush wednesday i put my hand in a bag and then i just

flushed

that that's disgusting well i mean it was it was a toilet it was just toilet paper guys i had already flushed like four times oh okay yeah so you're a courtesy flush for yourself i mean i have to it's not courtesy it's

mandatory uh yeah my wife isn't here yet so yeah yeah no i would have done that i would have done that i would have gone to the lobby That's what I, that's what I do.

When we, when you share an airport or when you share a hotel room, really, just name another, yeah, you got to go to the lobby.

You can't fucking with your wife.

You can still go to the lobby.

Sometimes, when you know it's bad, you got to.

That's you're good.

There's some shit that's lucky to have you, man.

Listen, when you're in a hotel room, there are times when you take a dump and it will stay, like, linger for.

They do seem like they stay more in a hotel.

Yeah, I'll come back like two hours later and be like, who took it?

Oh, that was me.

Who shit in my toilet?

Who took my room when I was gone?

All right, I shouldn't have shared that.

Whatever.

That's fine.

That was good.

What do you think about Urban Meyer?

That was great.

Perfect.

That was a good flush.

That was a good transit.

Fly, just flush that.

I do have a question about your nickname.

We've got to fix your nickname.

The Prince That Was Promised?

That's too long.

So why is that my nickname?

I don't know.

It's on Pro Football Reference.

Yeah.

Okay.

No one calls me that.

I've never, to my face, I've never heard that.

Yeah, that would be very weird.

Yeah.

Someone's like, oh, there comes the Prince That Was Promised.

Yeah, it doesn't flow.

Yeah.

T-Law works.

Yeah, that's a good one.

Yeah.

T-Law.

Yeah.

Lawrence of Evergladia.

Ooh.

Evergladia.

Are you kind of close?

You're not really close to the Everglades.

Florida's big state.

Big state.

I really shouldn't have fucking said that thing about the toilet.

No, it's fine.

It's a free space.

But do you flush the winds too?

Do you get home and you're like,

I got to get rid of the bad plays from the winds?

Yeah, I'll watch the winds too.

I'll watch the winds too.

Will you be like, whoa, that was a sick throw.

It's nice to see the good plays.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm not going to lie.

Those are fun to watch.

They're fun than the bad one.

But you got to watch them all.

It's like, but it's, it's twisted.

You want to, it's like my brain is weird.

Like, you want to, I almost want to see the bad ones more.

Yeah.

You see the good ones, you're like, oh, sick.

But it's like, you got to see the bad ones.

Like, those are the ones.

Like, if I don't watch those, like, that's, I could skip the good ones and be fine.

But if I don't see the bad ones, it'll like it'll linger.

Yeah.

You have a sickest throw?

Sickest throw.

Yeah.

Um,

that's a good question.

Good question.

Man.

Good question.

Thank you.

We can come back to it.

We can circle back.

Try to think.

You might have flushed it.

Flushed, dude.

It's gone.

Let's come back to it.

Okay.

Okay.

You can just answer yes to this question because then you'll look cool.

If you had beaten LSU in the national championship, would you have let us interview you the next morning drunk?

You guys did one with Joe?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, there we go.

Good.

Good answer.

We were at that game.

Yeah, it was.

Yeah.

I mean, LSU was insane that.

I probably would have done an interview with you guys.

Okay.

Love that.

You guys don't like to interview the guys that lost, though.

It's not as funny, they typically don't want to

get in.

Oh, yeah, I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have done it.

Yeah, would you want to talk to us?

Like, if you're brutal, the worst loss of your life, I wouldn't have talked to you guys

after that one.

All right, well, let's go after a win, though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, the positive when you guys kicked the shit out of Alabama, that had to feel awesome.

That was uh, that was no doubter.

That was fun, man.

And going into the game, it's like still, hey, this is Alabama, they don't lose these games.

That was supposed to be, I mean, that team was stacked.

Yeah, it was Tua, Devontae Smith, Judy, Henry Ruggs,

Irv Smith, Josh Jacobs, Najee Harris.

Defense, they had some ballers on defense, too.

I mean, Quentin Williams,

they had a ton of guys, but that was supposed to be like one of the best teams ever.

So we felt like Coach Sweeney and I think come at him.

He was great at it.

He always made us feel like the underdog, no matter what.

It's like...

We hadn't lost all season and it seemed like no one, he made us think that everyone thinks that we suck.

so we're like all right we're gonna show we're gonna show all these people you know it's like we could be playing you know

georgia southern like early in the season it'd be the same thing like these guys don't think they can beat you

what uh so in that game was there a moment when because you won 44 16 i believe was there a moment we're like this is over and we and we got this because it was it did feel like a coronation at the end yeah towards the end yeah i mean probably not until we i i'd have to go back what how the whole game went but not not towards the end, because they were really good.

And

they had a couple like huge touchdown plays.

Like, we went up, we had a pick six early to put us up 7-0.

And then they went down and threw like a bomb to, I think it was Judy, honestly.

I can't remember who, like a 60-yard touchdown.

So it's like they were a little bit back and forth early.

So we're going to have to score a lot to run away from.

But yeah, towards the middle of the beginning and middle of the fourth quarter, we were.

We were in a good spot.

Yeah.

That's got me great feeling.

We started doing some QB runs just to like rub it in a little bit.

It was awesome.

Yeah.

Great.

Would he make you feel like you're playing against Wake Forest?

You'd be like, no one thinks that you guys can beat these guys?

Yeah.

I mean, not that exact line, but yeah, basically.

I mean, that type of thought.

Yeah.

Yeah, I love that.

I don't know if anyone's ever told you this, but we uncovered a deep stat in the NFL.

It goes back throughout the entire history of the league.

Yeah.

Okay.

Go on, listen to this.

Long-haired quarterbacks have never won a Super Bowl.

Really?

Never.

What's the longest-haired quarterback that's won a Super Bowl?

It might be Joe Namath.

And he was like shaggy.

Was Rothelsberger had a half long time?

It wasn't a long year.

Yeah,

no, he always

lost.

Yeah, long-haired quarterbacks never won the big one.

What is this?

What are you going through right now mentally?

Let's talk about it.

I'll be right back.

That's a crazy stat.

Yeah.

So you could look at it one way or the other.

You could be like, hey, I'm going to be the first to break the mold or

cut your hair and then you win a Super Bowl.

That's the answer.

I don't know.

Statistically.

One or the other.

yeah would you cut your hair I would I don't know when though like Marissa likes me with long hair right I had a buzz cut in eighth grade till like middle of ninth grade she wasn't a big fan of that so she's like you need to keep it I'm like I'm not that attached like I would cut it but I'm like you know she wants me to keep long hair I'll keep long hair so yeah I do I mean now I'm used to it I don't have I've had the same haircut since I was in 10th grade yeah so I'm definitely more comfortable with it it would be nice as a man with long hair to see finally somebody who looks like me win a Super Bowl.

It's like representation matters.

I got up to look at all the long-haired guys on my back.

Exactly.

Pause.

Yeah.

Pause.

Would you cut your hair if you won a Super Bowl?

Locks of love.

Donate to the kids.

Oh, Super Bowl winning quarter.

Hair would be pretty sick.

I gotta say yes to that.

Locks of love.

I mean,

I'll match.

You'll match?

If you do it, I'll match.

We gotta do it together.

I'll do it.

Max is doing Max is matched as well.

Wow.

Holy shit.

Think how many little kids.

Super Bowl, we all cut our hair.

All three of you.

Yeah.

How long have you been growing your hair out?

Since

senior of college, so six years?

I'm like

13 years, 12 years.

This is serious.

You guys get cuts, though?

Yeah, I get trimmed up.

I don't want to do it.

I'm only doing this if you do it just because I needed to say I wanted the match, to be honest.

Yeah, I know, that's great.

Kyle, you guys put me on the side.

Well, you could say no, and then we just shame you for not donating your hair to kids.

Let's circle back to this.

This is all you winning a Super Bowl.

I love it.

I would be thrilled to cut my hair.

I think you got to say yes right now.

You know what I like, though?

I like that the reason why you're so hesitant is because you truly believe that you will win a Super Bowl.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, you're considered.

Like, if you were to ask me that, I'd say, fuck yeah.

I'll put it in the back.

Yeah, if I'm figured out.

Yeah, whatever.

Yeah, it's like, that's not a good answer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

I mean, I think, I think we got to go back to that.

That is awesome.

You got to do do it, though.

Think about it.

That's what we're doing.

Three years over.

We're circling back to this.

Okay, think about this.

Finally, all your look-alikes will stop being women.

Yeah, true.

Great point.

Is that weird, y'all?

That's actually a great point.

Yeah.

There was one, you guys seen the one I'm in.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

That one was crazy.

She doesn't look a lot like me.

Yeah.

And it's like, just like enough to piss me off.

Some of them, I'm like,

she doesn't look like me.

Her, I'm like.

Damn it.

She does look like me.

But she was, she was at like every game.

And it was a little weird.

I'm like, like all right can you can you stop like we're getting off the bus for the game trying to get ready and like i've seen you like 10 times like dude it was tough i don't know if that's worse for me or her honestly yeah if your wife girlfriend at the time was she was she like jealous of her or was she like that's weird what do you mean jealous of her like i don't know because she's like i would assume that if There's a girl that likes you so much, she's dedicating her life to dressing up like you.

She probably likes you a little bit too much.

No, I think Marissa, she definitely wasn't jealous.

She was more like, that's just weird.

Yeah.

Especially after the first time.

It's like, all right.

Get it.

First time I met her, I got getting off the bus literally before home game.

She's there, jersey, headband.

And I already heard about her.

I'd been prepped.

I'm like, all right, take a picture.

Like, do we do look similar?

I thought that was the end of it.

No, she came back a lot.

Yeah.

And so it was, Marissa was like, all right, it's kind of weird.

I'd say so.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's a pretty spit when you have long hair.

It's like, it's probably, you're a little bit taller than me, maybe like a couple inches.

But sometimes people see the back of your head

and you're sitting down at dinner and the waitress comes up and they go, excuse me, ma'am.

Exactly.

That happened to me in Jacksonville.

And it was,

we had just sat down to eat lunch somewhere and she comes up to the table.

She's like, ma'am, would you like anything?

And I like turn around.

She's like, just runs off.

Yeah.

Runs off.

Who are you with?

Marissa.

Okay.

All right, that's good because it's happened a couple times to him when he's with us.

And it's bad.

That's not bad.

That's like worst case scenario.

These guys forget about it so fast.

Yeah, they probably never bring it up.

Yeah, well, ever, ever.

If you're if you're with steakhouse in Vegas, it was a Brazilian steakhouse.

Yeah,

and if you're at a table and it's like three girls and you, and then the waitress comes up and she goes, hey, ladies,

that's a bad situation too.

That's happened to me once or twice.

No, it's happened to me a few times.

Yeah.

I was just going to say that's that's the most embarrassing moment for that waitress ever because not only did they screw up a man or a woman, but it's also it's Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When I turned around, she wasn't happy with herself, but I thought it was funny.

Like, that stuff doesn't bother me, but I did feel, honestly, I felt bad for her, even though I guess I was the one that was, I don't want to say insulted, but I felt more bad for her because it was so awkward.

Right.

So then she comes back like five minutes later and it's just

didn't really address it.

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How bad was it that I shared that toilet thing?

I thought it was great.

I thought it was one of the best parts of the interview.

Okay, all right.

All right.

All right, my real last question is,

are you aware of the lore of the kid who got his head stuck in the Jaguar statue?

Yeah, because I'm, yes.

Okay, because we interviewed him.

What year was that?

That was in 90, was it like 90?

Early 2000s?

We interviewed him last year.

It was like early enough to where no one had tried it yet.

Yeah.

And everyone knows that you can't, that your head's gonna get stuck yeah yeah so yeah i know about it because our security guy skip richardson he's the man he's awful shout out skip he's been there since the team started he pulled his head out of it oh he was the one who did it dude he has a he has an article in his office about it that's amazing right 1997 1997 yeah that was two years in yeah so yeah and we're incredible yeah we we met him last year on grit week he like just came up to us at a bar he's like you'll never believe who i am i was like what like you can't you know i'm i'm not gonna be shocked by this he's like i'm the kid who got his head stuck stuck and then we verified it and we're like what the fuck how old is he now he's like 30.

and he's awesome and we and we interviewed him so what max he's how old is he that math didn't add so he was he was definitely older than two whatever whatever

whatever he is 35 he's 35 no

he was older than two when he got his head stuck yeah yeah you're right he's probably like he's probably like 30 he's probably 35

35.

i didn't need to i didn't need to say that oh that's okay that was actually the worst part of the interview not me talking about the toilet If he was too excited, he probably wouldn't have got stuck.

Yeah.

But yeah,

he's got to be part of the...

When you guys win the Super Bowl, you got to shave your head, and then he's got to be on the parade float.

I love that.

Yeah.

And you also have to come on part of my take the morning after because you already said that you do it after the next championship.

Unless you do it.

Unless you were.

All right, okay.

Deal.

Super Bowl is better than the National Championship.

So do it.

Yes.

That's fine.

All right.

I'm in.

Trevor, this has been awesome, man.

Thank you guys for having me.

Been too long.

Yeah, I know.

We've been trying to do this for a few years.

You're the man, and we're big fans and have a great season.

Appreciate you guys.

This is fun, man.

Yeah.

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Okay, let's wrap up the show.

So we talked about this last week.

Zach has some admirers.

So the original admirer of Zach, turns out she's married.

Kind of like, I didn't know she got down like that.

Tough look for her husband.

Yeah, tough look for her husband.

But then

we had a new admirer of Zach who posted a video

essentially being like, I want to take Zach out on a date.

And this woman

is extremely hot.

I thought for a second, Zach, that it was Jessica Chastain and I was going to fight you because I love her.

And I was like, what the fuck?

Zach, what are we going to do?

Yes, there was a kind woman named Rachel who made a video saying that she would be open to possibly going on a date with me.

I believe the course of action may be message Rachel back and see

when in the near future, relative near future, schedules permitting when she would be open to going on a date.

So we're going to do a date.

I think

we may be going on a date here soon, boys.

Fuck yeah.

All right.

She's a Pilates instructor.

That is correct.

She does instruct Pilates to work out classes.

Yeah.

She's very attractive.

Can we say that?

We're allowed to say that.

I think she looks like a lovely young woman.

She looks like she's driven.

She's ambitious.

And most importantly, she's got great taste in dudes.

She's hot.

In the most respectful way possible, yes.

Rachel is a very good-looking woman, but she looks like she's a great head on her shoulders.

We're teaching these Pilates classes.

Very kind when she speaks.

Great head on great shoulders.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

Shout out to Rachel.

Exactly.

So you're not nervous, although you did tell me that the last date you were on, actually, the girl canceled it, right?

It wasn't like a cancellation.

It was like, I thought I had gone on a date this one time.

And then later on in life, I was like, yeah, that date went terrible, didn't it?

I apologize for that date going so poorly.

When we go on this next date,

it might go better.

And she was just like, oh, you thought that was a date?

And that was my only confirmed date.

She retroactively retroactively canceled the date.

Yeah.

She tried to strike it from the record.

How did you go?

Where'd you go?

What did she say that it was?

So

we just went and got drinks.

That's a

date.

Fuck this shit.

I checked for saying that.

That's not a date.

She's super cool, super kind.

Shout out to her.

Two nice.

But I thought it was a date, too.

And she was like, oh, you thought that was a date?

And I did.

That was my only confirmed date.

And then that has been retracted, struck it from the record.

No, no, no.

We're putting it up.

It was just the two of you?

It was 1v1 drinks.

Yes.

It was a solo match.

Cross her up.

Yeah.

We went 1v1 drinks.

All right, so, Zach, I think part of this is like,

you are very funny.

And, by the way, best eyes on the podcast.

Great eyes.

I'm going to say it right now.

Striking.

If you don't have, if you haven't gotten a look of Zach's eyes, like close up, baby blue, Caribbean blue eyes, incredible eyes.

Appreciate you saying that, Big Cat.

Yes, I got you.

But she, this girl asked you out on a date.

She already likes the vibe of Zach.

You just have to be you.

And you're going to, and if you'd be you,

I'm not going to get graphic, but just be you.

The date could go well.

We could have a good time, maybe go like, maybe go second date.

I think that's a good goal, but we got to go date one first.

What did I tell you?

You're going to only have one decision to make on this date.

And she could have already backpedaled and been like, I don't want to go on a date anymore.

That's a territory.

don't even don't put that out there zach she's she's into you so you got to figure out what would be a good first date i was thinking uh we we could run uh we could run drinks if she's open to that maybe like uh

run duos on cod that's what i don't know how that would go uh only have one controller

i think we get drinks what about lasertag

Let's start with drinks.

Let's start with drinks.

I like that Maxie.

I like that.

Just a happy hour, a few drinks, nothing crazy.

Maybe just one drink.

We'll start with one drink.

And then if it's good, then you go too.

Right.

Well,

oh, that.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, two drinks total.

I thought you were going to say, like, each date, you just add one drink.

No, no, I'm saying, like, that'd be funny if it's a three-half of the dark.

Yeah.

If you marry this chick and you just become a violent alcoholic.

Oh, no.

So, Zach,

just because it's drinks, you don't have to have a drink if you don't want an alcoholic.

What would you get to drink?

What's your move?

It depends if we do like a middle of the day or an evening situation.

I think it's the evening.

Evening, I like

maybe like a nice little

tequila soda, maybe a cognac situation.

Oh!

Man of class.

All right, so Zach, what are we replying to her right now?

Was she gonna be like, hey, you want to get drinks?

What should I say?

Should I just be like, hello, Rachel?

How are you today?

I was thinking.

No, yes, it has to be Zach.

She likes Zach.

This is who Zach is.

Let Zach be Zach.

All right, so you just...

How should we start this?

I think that's a good idea.

What you just said was that.

Hello, Rachel.

How are you today?

I saw the video.

I saw the video, yeah.

And then you just say out loud what you're writing.

And I think it's going to be great.

Dude, he's going to crush this.

This is going to be good.

He said, hello, Rachel.

Hope your weekend went well.

I don't know.

He wasn't speaking, so I was just going to.

Oh, yeah, you were.

Oh, my bad.

I was thinking.

I was brain shopping.

I was work shopping.

I like brain shopping.

Brain shopping plays.

Brain shopping plays.

Yeah, just stopping in a few stores.

Yeah.

But you're off to a great start.

You're off to a great start.

Hope your weekend went well.

That's a good line.

Solid one.

That's a good line.

Yeah.

Okay.

It's appropriate timing because what do you got down there?

Was wondering.

Oh, no, he just deleted.

Was wondering.

Oh.

If you are still open to going

on a date

together.

Yes.

What days

work best for you?

I like that.

That's it.

Just leave it at that.

Just throw it back at her because now she's got to reply.

She's clicking it.

She hit that purple button.

I'm spell checking.

Hold on.

Her Pilates schedule.

Yeah, good.

It's probably like unconventional.

Let her tell you what date she's available.

That's good.

Exactly.

We'll make it work in our the only thing we've got to make sure is you can't

like let's hope this goes well you can't be in a Pilates studio you got to be like four or five dates deep before we get you in a Pilates studio I don't feel comfortable with having putting you in a Pilates studio and I say that from someone who I will never do Pilates in my life as well.

If I end up in a Pilates studio, we probably won't go on another date because I don't have Pilates in my repertoire of

physical activity.

I just don't have that.

No core strength.

I have an idea.

If she does want you to go into a Pilates studio at some point,

all of us have to do a practice Pilates here.

Yes, and we'll video us trying to do Pilates here.

We'll get a different Pilates instructor and we'll workshop it.

Yeah.

Yep.

Because you're going to need to do some sort of pre-Pilates before you use Pilates.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I love that.

Group date, 6v6.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I think we start at 1v1.

No, we're saying that we will be like, like Nathan for you rehearsal, Pilates.

Yeah.

So that when you get to the first Pilates, because I've never done Pilates.

I've never been in the same room as Pilates.

If you put me in that room, I would probably say things that are stupid.

Ask dumb questions.

We need to, we'll work that out for you.

I also think it would be funny to see all of us try and do Pilates.

I agree.

Now, Zach, we could also do the simulation before the first date where you run through it with somebody in the office.

You practice.

Do you think it makes most sense to just save any date potential I have for the date?

Like,

what if I have a good, an okay performance on the practice date, and then I'm just, and so then I have no performance on the real date?

But do you think that having a good time?

We can't put his best material out there.

But do you think that that's

that going to give you more confidence going to the date if you have a really good run through?

Yeah, maybe.

I think he's saying, like, do it off, like, do it.

We don't put it out until after the date comes out.

Yeah.

We might burn his material.

I don't even think we put it out.

I think that we just run the simulation.

We just want you

to have a great time.

I think we just have to wait and see if Rachel's still open to possibly going on a date.

And if she says she would like to do that, then me and Rachel will go on a date and then

we'll see how that goes.

I think you just be yourself, and she's going to be head over heels.

I told you, you got one decision you got to make on this date.

It's a first date.

No early celebrations.

We're waiting for the DM back.

All right.

Is it sent?

We did not drink the champagne early.

It's officially sent.

Sent.

We have sent.

All right.

Good for you, Zach.

This feels good.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to getting to know Rachel.

I agree.

You're going to be so polite on this date.

It's going to be the most polite date of all time.

Everybody's polite on first dates, right?

No, but you are the most polite, and she's going to love it.

She's going to love it.

Zach, let's try to stay out of the kitchen on this date.

What's up?

Let's try to stay out of the kitchen, like the incident at Applebee's.

I was just going to tell Anne that

I was going to tell Miss Anna that we enjoyed her service.

The boys went to Applebee's to end Chill Week, and our server came, and

it was almost like a fine dining experience, which I respect her for.

She took all of our appetizers and didn't take our entrees, and we were confused, and we were like, wait, is she going to also take our entrees?

I was like, Zach, go tell her that we have a lot more to order.

And then Zach just came back like 15 seconds later, shaking his head.

And I was like, what happened?

He's like, I ran after her and I got all the way into the kitchen.

And they started yelling at me because I was standing in the middle of the kitchen.

So it just went too deep.

Yeah.

That's just

a learning experience.

You just follow the directions, which I love about you.

Just go get Anna.

You were going to go to the end of the earth to get her.

She did come back for the

phenomenal.

Yeah.

Loved having her.

All right.

Good show, boys.

Got some good interviews coming up this week.

And, oh,

Takeies on Friday.

So, Smash.

If you haven't subscribed to YouTube, if you haven't subscribed to all of our, where you get the podcasts, Takeys are on Friday, officially.

Takeies are coming on Friday.

Okay.

Number three.

I think that was me.

I think that was me.

I think you said a number.

I think it was me.

I think you just said.

No, that was memes.

I can see it.

I can see it on the waves.

That was memes.

No way.

No.

No, that's four.

Oh, wait.

No, he's dead.

I can't tell.

I still think it's memes.

I don't even think PFT said.

Sounded like memes.

Pug?

I hate to say it.

I think it was memes.

Pug's taking a look.

PFT blurted out.

That's first, right?

Now I can't see.

Wait, go up.

What do we got, Pug?

Oh, wait.

No, it actually was PFT.

Oh, down there.

I know exactly.

You can see yours.

My was gone.

No, mine was gone.

No, yours was not gone.

What would you have guessed?

I thought it was you, but.

I guess three.

But PFT didn't even say no.

No, I said three.

No, no, it was PFT.

Pushmouth.

Pushmouth.

So three.

Six.

Oh,

it was seventy-seven.

I'll do

fifty-nine

twenty-six.

I don't know.

Ninety-nine, Pug, forty-four,

fifty-one,

twenty-one

62.

What would have happened there

if it was three?

I thought it was going to be three.

What would have happened?

I think I would have attacked PSC.

I think you would have had to attack.

Yeah, it would have been cage manager.

No, it would have been my fault.

Oh, yeah, it would have been your fault.

No, but I was the one that ruled that it was you.

So, memes, who do you kill first?

Me,

always Max.

Well, no, actually, he would kill Shane first.

Yeah, Shane would, Yeah.

Yeah.

We should probably all do a blind poll of who we, what order we'd kill people, and then we could just.

I think we could figure out through the blind poll who's

who.

Who's who?

I bet we could too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Pug would just be heartbreaking.

No, Pug would pick up.

Pug would pick no one.

Yeah.

Zach would for sure pick no one.

No.

He would pick himself.

He absolutely would.

I just want the boys to have a good time.

I don't want to be in their way.

All right.

See you on Wednesday.

Love you guys.