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Today is Wednesday, July 16th.

And Kyle Schwarber is the man.

What a monster.

Three swings, three dongs, three no-doubters.

Three no-doubters.

What a way to finish the baseball game.

He's the best.

Yeah, so for people who didn't tune into the all-star game, we had the first ever swing-off in the All-Star game.

It was tied after nine innings.

They fixed it after the disaster that happened, what was it, 20 years ago?

Bud Selig stands up, calls the game off.

Game off.

Disgrace to the United States of America.

It really was.

But this time they had a solution.

The swing-off, each manager got to pick three guys, and each guy had three swings, and most home runs win, and it was

Kyle Schwerber.

It was Kyle Schwerber's show because he hit three home runs and three swings.

Absolute monsters.

He's the best.

I fucking love him forever.

He's the best.

The only, and of course,

in true baseball fashion,

we have a very cool thing, a very cool moment.

And obviously, everyone's just talking about where was Otani, where is Aaron Judge?

Well, guess what?

They were probably on a plane because Jesse Rogers reported that

for everyone saying, hey, why aren't like the best home run hitters, Kyle Schwarber is one of the best home run hitters competing in this,

they literally left.

And now we have the debate of, is that leaving your team?

Is that lame?

I do not care.

Yeah,

bad leadership by Aaron Judge at the All-Star game.

Yeah.

Nobody cares about that.

But it did feel like the National League manager was trying to win harder than the American League manager was.

Yeah.

Well,

I don't think they had anyone left.

Pete Alonzo was, that was the closer pick.

Yeah.

Petalonzo, that's a no-brainer.

But he had played.

So Pete Alonzo, I think, stayed because he was going to maybe win MVP.

Kyle Schwerber was the first non-pitcher to win MVP without getting a hit in the game.

But that's why I think Pete Alonso stayed.

It was basically guys who were in the game late or were staying because they could potentially win MVP like Pete Alonso.

I think Pete Alonzo stayed because he thought there might be a swing-off.

And this is what he secretly trained his entire career without even preparing for it.

He just knew that he was putting in all those hours just hitting dingers off a batting machine, pitching machine, off a coach pitch, whatever.

The man has been, he's cared about the home run derby more than any other human being on planet Earth ever has cared about winning the home run derby.

He had an opportunity.

He was a closer, put him in third.

He didn't even have to swing.

Didn't have to swing.

He's pissed off about that.

Yeah, but his three-run homer, like up until the swing-off, he probably would have been the MVP.

But it was great.

I loved it.

And for people, like, yes, obviously, would you have liked to see Otani and judge in it?

Sure.

But I also, like, if you're an all-star, you have a two-day break at most.

They're probably going to want to get out of town.

Yeah, I can understand that.

Also, Max, I would like for you to apologize for the Ranger Suarez takes.

Why?

Because he turned down the All-Star game.

I don't know if that's true.

Oh, okay.

Can we fact-check that?

I'm not going to believe.

We're not going to look at it.

Why did every player on the Phillies get so upset about it if if he turned it down?

Just talk about Ranger Suarez here.

Can you answer me that?

Are you counting yourself as one of the players?

No.

Yeah, definitely.

He said he'd like to take a break.

I don't blame him for that.

The Phillies are pissed.

When was he asked?

Was it...

What point was he at?

It was a while ago.

That's a good question.

It was a while ago.

I'm trying to help you here, Max.

I'm also.

Try to just Google, did Ranger Suarez turn down all the time?

Like, why wouldn't this be like one of the first things that people are talking about?

They're still talking about the.

On X, the Everything app with the website with a great search function.

Yeah.

Robert Suarez pitched in the game.

There you go.

So you got an R.

Suarez.

Now, I got to say,

I like the swing-off.

Yeah.

Swing off to end the game is great.

I want everything decided by swing-offs now.

Regular season baseball games, swing-off.

Ild custody hearings, swing-off.

Swing-off.

I obviously understand people complaining.

It would have been cool if Otani was in it.

It would have been cool if Judge was in it.

Yeah, but I mean, let's not let that get away.

And it's also, you know, it's a simple fix, is you just have to declare who your swing-off is before the game starts.

So then you have to stick around.

Those guys can't leave.

Yeah.

Like, that's just something they didn't think about.

And then it happened.

What is that article?

And now, hopefully, they'll fix it.

Ranger Suarez said he declined participation in all star games.

Oh, that's interesting.

What does that say?

I don't understand why all the players were so mad.

I won't get mad because I was going off of the players being mad.

If his own teammates are going to freak out about it,

why shouldn't I?

Okay.

So

you're mad because...

I'm not mad.

You were mad because other guys were mad at me.

I'm mad.

You're just being a good teammate.

At what point would I have thought that that was true if all of his teammates went to his defense saying it was bullshit that he didn't get put in the all-star game?

Right.

So again, you're just being a good teammate.

Your teammates teammates are mad, so you're going to be mad as with them.

Correct.

Yeah.

But Kyle Schwarber, awesome.

He's the fucking best.

Awesome.

He is the best.

Also, shout out Ludacris.

Ludacris doing Welcome to Atlanta to start the All-Star game.

Yep.

Just put Ludacris on TV.

I will watch it.

I watched the performance twice after I got back to the office.

We did our own home run derby tonight.

How are the boys feeling?

Bad.

Really bad.

Yeah, you're going to hear us in a few minutes where we taped in the beginning of the day and we did our predictions.

I think, I think the only thing we said, Hank, was don't get injured.

And we both got injured.

Yeah, I said I did this.

So I tore my bicep blaster doing this.

I'm trying not to do that again.

I'm pretty sure I did.

And I wanted to go 10 for 10.

I did not go 10 for 10.

Not to spoil the future episode, but I was worried that you were going to ruin your swing, your golf swing.

That

was not out of the question.

Yeah, the bicep.

Max, how do you feel?

I'm okay.

My hands hurt a little bit.

My wrists hurts a little bit.

You're a beast.

My back hurts a little bit, but

I'm not feeling great, but there's no injuries.

Yeah.

What about you, memes?

My hands are torn apart and my bicep.

I jammed my thumb on like this.

Oh, yeah.

Memes loves that tape.

He was given the whole dugout that tape.

Can you see our tape?

And we do not know how to use it.

We were using it all incorrectly.

It's an extra muscle.

Yeah.

Someone said that to me.

Yeah, T-Mobile.

I said it just replaces a muscle, which makes no sense.

I had my thumb taped up, like fully wrapped for a while.

Then I was like, this is ridiculous.

I'm probably hurting myself more.

Zach, you took some cuts.

You looked good.

I didn't get any over the wall.

I did make contact.

Thank you guys for letting me swing.

That was awesome.

Yeah, that was fun.

And also, Zach, there was a moment, I'm pretty sure you were playing right field.

You didn't move for like three hours.

There was, the visibility got a little dicey,

and I was

kind of stuck.

Like, I'd run straight to the balls when they hit the ground, but I was terrified of catching one to the face because I could not see them.

There were a couple of them where you stood still and then someone else came over and I was saying, call them off, Zach.

That's your ball.

They tracked it way better than I did for sure.

Yeah.

If they're going to track it better, they got it.

Speaking of home runs, our guy, Big Dumper, wins.

Maybe a little bit of a...

People were a little upset about the ruling against,

was it Rooker who

got screwed?

Yeah.

One inch, but I don't care because I love Big Dumper.

Yeah, no, that's great.

And it was great for him.

But yeah, people were a little upset about that.

The home run derby sucks anyway.

We just, we forget every single year.

We tune in every year to the home run derby, and then we're like, oh yeah, you can't actually see the home runs land and the next swing happen at the same time.

And I hate the time.

I hate the time.

Let's go back to 10 outs.

10 outs.

Make it simple.

It's so easy.

We love dingers.

We're going to watch.

That was.

Don't have me trying to, like, I feel dizzy trying to follow the home run derby.

It was such a it's not broken, don't fix it situation.

10 outs.

10 outs.

Just do it every time.

And they just got cute with it.

And like the whole extra outs thing.

Yeah.

If you hit it, you know, far, you get another extra out.

It's like if Jeff D.

Lowe designed the home run derby.

Yeah, pretty much.

Yeah.

We're going to go to a bonus bonus route.

Yeah.

But yeah, I am happy for Cal Raleigh.

He's the man.

Yeah, that was awesome.

Yeah.

It was cool to see him win.

Sorry for giving out James Wood to you guys.

But Max, you know, he went first.

Tough situation when he was going first is.

Yeah, no, that was bullshit.

Yeah.

That was bullshit.

I was backing him.

I was telling everyone else that I was with to back him.

Yep.

But it's okay.

22.

22 years old.

He's 22 years old.

22 years old.

22.

Future face of this league.

Right?

Many are saying, yes.

Scotty Barnes.

Future face of this league.

All right.

Only other two.

Well, I had three other stories I wanted to hit on real quick.

Terry McLaurin.

I don't think that's a national sports story.

I think that's a national sports story.

That's pretty regional.

Sports podcast.

Is that an Eastern?

You know what?

I'll do.

Well, I don't understand.

Garrett Wilson.

Congrats, memes.

Garrett Wilson.

Congrats, memes.

This is a great step into being a good organization.

We have Sauce and Garrett Wilson locked up till 2030.

Love that.

While you were saying there's a couple other stories that I want you to touch on, memes was just whispering to himself, Garrett Wilson.

I was going to hit it.

It was one of the three.

It eliminates distractions.

Now you don't have to be like, is he getting traded to the Steelers?

Is he getting traded to the Broncos?

I would hate for that to be my wide receiver.

Yeah, maybe I guess it can be helpful to clear it up to me and our listeners because while we were doing the stream, this news was breaking and the chat, who was usually like on point with reporting real news.

I opened it up and it just said Terry McLaurin retired.

No, that's not true.

He didn't.

Okay.

All right, that's good.

But why would they be saying that?

He might have retired because he was doing an automotive commercial at the time.

Now, listen, the way things go in the NFL, you're going to have contract negotiations.

You're going going to have guys that hold in, guys that hold out.

Typically, you don't have guys that go to do their standard Eastern Motors commercial and then use that as the platform to talk about the contract situation.

But I feel like that's the last thing that Terry's got for him right now.

He's like, I'm going to put some pressure on him.

I'm going to talk about it at the commercial shoot.

And yeah, he sounded like a guy that was frustrated.

Now, he did not say that he wanted to play anywhere else.

He said he wants to play in D.C.

I think we're going to work it out, but I feel like this is hardball.

I know that I think that we're going to work it out.

We talked about this recently, right?

Yeah.

And you said.

It's not a problem.

Guaranteed.

I'm not worried.

He'll be returning, right?

Guaranteed.

Guaranteed.

So guaranteed to, I think,

seems like a bit of a step down.

Well, no, he just changed.

Do I know, I think.

I know, I think.

Peter King put that in his column for years.

I know, I think.

That sounds less guaranteed than guaranteed.

That is less guaranteed than guaranteed.

I think I know that I'm willing to guarantee this.

I would like a percent.

Zero to 100%.

A guarantee is 100%.

What's higher than 100%?

110%.

110%.

It's 110% guarantee.

That's a guarantee.

I've also, I've offered Terry McLaurin 50% of my golf winnings in perpetuity.

What do we do then?

So Hank owes him

$4,000.

If you're this confident, then you should put something up.

And if he doesn't.

Okay.

Terry's coming.

Terry's coming.

100%?

Yes, 110%.

110%.

10%.

Don't take 10% away.

I do feel like this is going to get worse.

What are you my agent?

But 120%.

He also feels like he's not happy.

He's not happy.

And that's the concern because

he has been the one guy.

He's played on three different team names for the Washington football clubs.

He's always been there.

He's been great, even with terrible quarterbacks.

I feel like it's for him.

For the first time in his career, he's got a great quarterback they can play with.

You don't want to walk away from that.

Yeah.

So he wants to keep playing.

He wants to get paid.

This is probably his last big contract.

I think the paid is the most important part, not the quarterback thing.

He's 30 years old.

He wants to be paid.

He wants to play here.

Max, you know what?

Fuck it.

125%.

There we go.

I just want to

125%.

Wow.

I put my credibility on the line.

And what happens if

I have many?

Goes and plays somewhere else.

That would be

painful.

That would be very painful.

And but what about your

guarantee, 125%?

Your word would then mean nothing.

Oh, wow.

He's taking away your word, PFT.

125%.

What else do we have but our word on this show where we're always right?

His word is his profession.

PFT.

My credibility.

PFT.

Which is also your job.

We sidebar because it seems like they're ganging up on you.

Because I'm about to say something fucking stupid.

They're ganging up on you, PFT.

Just remember.

You'll get a cat.

Remember, PFT.

This podcast, we are always right.

We're always right.

We never get anything wrong.

I never report anything anymore.

We never get ahead of ourselves.

No.

So, for you to do this would be maybe the end of the podcast.

It is something that I feel so strongly about that I'm thinking about saying something stupid.

Okay.

Why don't you text it to me?

Okay, I'm going to text it to you.

And I'll say it.

Terry McLaurin, by the way, he

so he is getting paid.

What is he getting paid?

His $15 million this year with a $5 million signing bonus, and then he's an unrestricted free agent next year.

So he would like some money.

He deserves some money.

He's a really good football player.

Why wouldn't they pay him?

That's a good question, Hank.

So it seems like at this point, when you have

a quarterback that's on their rookie contract, this is the time to pay guys.

But we've gone out.

We got Laramie Tunsel, have to pay him.

Oh, my God.

Yes, yes,

say it.

Say it, say it, say it.

Well, it doesn't count because if I say it, he didn't say it.

Then he should say it.

No, no, no.

He should not say this.

He should not say this.

I'll say it, but

PFT can't be held to it because I'm saying it.

He's going to be a commander.

It's a guarantee.

125% guarantee.

It's going to get done.

All right, I'll just role play as PFT for a second.

I 110% think that Terry McLaurin is going to be a commander, and if he's not a commander, I'm willing to give Max my Elk Mino.

Don't say that, PFT.

That's stupid.

You love that car.

Yeah.

Don't.

You're just going to be aware of that.

I'm not going to say that.

You're getting caught up in the moment right right now.

That's really stupid of me.

Because Max got you all working.

I'm going to walk that back.

I'm going to make this really easy on you.

I will give it back to you if you give it to me because that seems like more of a hassle than I would really want.

That's what I was thinking.

Oh, wow.

That feels like the El Camino died like this morning.

No, El Camino, it's humming.

It is humming.

All the haters and doubters are down bad right now.

They're being awful quiet.

I said this was going to be the summer of the El Camino.

I think coming into this summer,

I put my full faith in the El Camino.

You called it.

Yeah.

So, Max, I'll give you my El Camino if Terry McLaurin goes somewhere else.

Okay, and

in good faith, I will give it back to you.

No, you should, if he goes somewhere else, you should give it to an AWL whose action is.

Yeah, that wasn't part of the hypothesis.

That would be kind of crazy.

That wasn't part of the hypothetical.

Like, imagine that.

Will the Broncos, we find a random Broncos fan, and we're like, hey, you can have PFT's El Camino?

PFT would never say that to him.

That wouldn't do him.

It's true.

He did a bad job role-playing.

My controls.

Either way, Terry McLaurin.

My controls.

Terry McLaurin will be.

We're going to work it out.

It's going to be fine.

It's not great that it got to this point where now he's doing public disputes with things and saying that they haven't talked to him.

They haven't made him an offer recently.

It just has to work out because if it doesn't,

where is he being

rumored to go?

Nowhere.

So

he's got one year left on the ground.

Any of the rumors?

The Jets?

I saw one hypothetical trade to the Jets.

You got Dove Kleiman.

Okay.

Well, I would just like fans of other teams in the NFL, maybe tweet at us and let us know if you would want an El Camino if Terry McLaurin played for your team.

It's too big.

Just let us know.

I just want to see.

It's like a little poll.

Listen.

First thing I see, Terry McLaurin.

Oh, Hank, would you like it?

Feels Patriot trade buzz.

Whoa.

Would you like to

know Hank?

Yeah, and Terry McLaurin.

That'd be awesome.

Oh, my God.

That might kill you if Hank was riding around in your El Camino.

I would get a little paint shot, put Terry's number on it.

I told you it was stupid as shit.

Yeah, there's a role play.

This is again still hypothetical role play.

The El McLaurin.

He's coming back.

Of the four articles I'm seeing, two of them are Patriots.

Oh my god.

Wow.

That's a lot of articles

of the four.

Of the four.

Heavy sports.

You can have Van NESN.

NESN.

Got it.

What is Super Bowl?

What's the link to surprising trade commanders to?

Click that one, the Sports Illustrated one.

This was probably AI.

They do AI articles.

Yeah.

Just clicks and clicks and clicks.

Tennessee Titans.

The Tennessee Titans.

That would be a full-on cash grab.

I would not like that.

Terry is a commander.

He's a commander.

He's a Redskin football team and commander for life.

Yeah.

Okay.

When he goes into the Hall of Fame, which one do you think he goes in as?

Tennessee Titan.

I think maybe he goes in as a football team.

He's going to stay in the sky.

We're going to work it out.

Cooler heads are going to prevail.

Okay.

I trust Adam Peters.

I trust Terry McLaurin.

Everything's going to be fine.

Stop saying it's not going to be fine.

It's going to be.

I'm on your side, bro.

Boy, I actually

had a rookie deal makes sense to pay someone like him.

Yeah, it does.

Yeah.

So then in theory...

If he got traded to the Patriots, they would pay for him because they got a Titans.

Quarterback on a rookie deal.

We're not entertaining these Florio creations that you're pulling out, Hank.

BFT, I want it on the record.

I'm on your side.

I think he's going to be a commander.

He's going to be commander.

Terry's a one-uniform.

Well,

he's a three-uniform one-city guy.

Yeah.

He's going to be a commander.

That's the ultimate legacy.

Yeah.

Three different uniforms.

What are you going to say, Max?

No, I just...

I'm rooting for you.

No, you're who?

No, you're not.

Wait, who are you rooting for?

Fuck.

I guess if I root for you, then I would be rooting against Hank, right?

And you hate doing that.

Fuck, that is true.

I guess if I had to root for one of you.

What about memes?

He said there was a rumor.

True.

So you would.

Wait, would you be upset?

Hank, memes, would you be upset if Terry McLaurin?

Yeah, but I guess it makes sense you would root for a PFC because

Jayne Daniels kind of on the record, top five QB top shooters.

Yeah, it's true.

You probably need someone like Terry McLaurin.

That's actually definitely helps.

No, he actually.

No.

You know what?

Jayne Daniels doesn't even need Terry McLaurin.

Still a top five.

You could put Jane Daniels out with any receiving core in the NFL, top five quarterback.

No doubt.

We got Fast Debo.

Fast Debo.

Fast Debo.

Fast Debo.

Yeah, Fast Debo.

Who Kittle said, by the way, looked like he was almost in too good a shape.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He did say that.

Fast.

It's exactly what he said.

Right before he tried to tackle Hank, and Hank hid behind me like the cowardly little mouse he is.

George Kittle running at you is one of the scariest sights of all time.

No, Kittle and he is a monster.

There are two guys in our life and we've we've gotten to know a bunch of these guys and very lucky.

The two guys that I will always say that like when you are around them, whether it be drinking or just being around them and you're worried about maybe a little bit of wrestling and horseplay that will get you very, very injured is it's George Kittle and Skyle Long.

Both those guys, I'm just like, I don't, I'm always just kind of ready to be tackled and have like all my insides like ripped up.

I would say rabes too.

We have rabe.

Oh, I actually, so I like broke my pinky like four months ago.

No, it was probably like six months ago.

Never got it really fixed because you can't really do anything.

And it would hurt every time I'd shake someone's hand for about two months.

And the last four months, I've been totally fine.

Hurt again, Mike Vrabel handshake.

Vrabel gotcha.

That was it.

Yeah.

Just a good old Vrabel handshake will get you.

He does the combo of the handshake and the pat on the back.

Yeah.

Yeah, you can be wearing all the Copperfit bracelets you want.

You're getting knocked off balance.

All right.

The last story I had was

LeBron's getting a little desperate, don't you guys think?

Did you guys see the latest?

Kobe Altman, the president of the Cleveland Cavaliers, got a contract extension, and LeBron James quote-tweeted it, and he said,

here's what he said.

Yes, sir.

Congratulations to my brother B.

Weems.

Super proud of you, man.

Was this the praying?

No.

Praise?

No, praise.

Praise emoji, praise emoji, praise emoji, praise emoji, praise emoji, praise emoji, praise emoji, praying hands, heart.

That's a lot.

That's a lot of emojis.

He wants to be a Cav so bad.

Yeah.

So bad.

We talk about it later.

Yeah, but

at least this one is recently.

He's not going to be a Laker, I don't think.

No.

All right.

Well, let's get to the later.

Let's get to everything else.

We got a great show.

We got Shane Victorino.

Awesome interview.

Make sure you tune into the part where Max has a great question for him.

Never Meet Your Heroes.

Never Meet Your Heroes.

Shane Bacon talking open championship.

Mount Rushmore.

And remember, Friday takeies.

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What time is it?

Game time.

Okay, Henry.

Hot seat, cool thrown.

My hot seat is Uno in Vegas.

Yes.

Oh.

It was first reported on this show by one PFT commenter that they were going to be able to

play Uno in Vegas for money as a casino game.

This is not first surprise.

I read a news article.

I first read it.

I heard it first on this program.

Okay.

So as you know, first reported by PFT.

Yes.

Uno Uno yesterday put out a statement.

A rumor has come to our attention that there will be Uno tables on the casino floors in Las Vegas.

Sounds wild, huh?

We hate to be the bearers of bad news, but the casino floor isn't ready for us yet.

We've told that while they do have tight security, it's not robust enough for Uno at this time.

This isn't a reverse card.

While we get this sorted out, and then they just promoted their Uno social club.

So there's like a Uno social club that they're doing in New York, Chicago, Atlanta, and Austin, but not Vegas.

So it sounds like the casino put out the statement too too soon.

Yeah.

The casino that had planned this entire room of Uno, they didn't have final agreement with Uno.

Yeah.

They didn't clear it with Uno first.

So PFT is right.

So what's to stop them from just making a card game that's identical to Uno, but not called Uno?

Nothing.

I guess copyright?

Maybe copyright.

Maybe copyright.

Duo.

Duo.

It also would take a long time.

Yeah.

Casino games are built on

the column.

No, but casino games are.

Yeah.

I don't think Vegas would want that either.

No, especially if you can't play for money.

You're just going and playing Uno.

That's like the last thing you want to do.

Yeah.

Hoodoo, Uno here.

That's what I would call it.

Mm-hmm.

All right, good hot seat.

Thanks.

You just attacked PFT, but that was just a rip, but that's fine.

Nice hat, by the way.

It was a report that was widely reported.

And the casino, I blame the casino.

Their PR department.

Got to get these deals done before you tweet them out.

Why are you wearing that hat?

I don't know.

It's a fish.

It's a fish?

It's a fish.

What kind of fish is that?

I don't know.

Oh, great promo for the fishing contest coming out July 21st.

Dolphin fish?

This is a dolphin fish?

Might be.

I don't know what type of fish it is.

Where did you buy the hat?

I got it when I was fishing a couple weeks ago.

You don't know what fish it is?

A guy was literally handing them out to me and my buddies on the boat.

Oh, it might be a mahi-mahi.

Zach found it.

That's a mahi-mahi.

Sure is.

Dolphin fish.

Dolphin fish.

That's dolphin.

Yeah, yeah.

Same thing.

Max found it.

Good job, Zach.

Good job, Zach.

Okay.

Who throws the Red Sox?

People got mad at me for not bringing this up on Monday.

The Trump Sox.

What are they, 10-0?

They're undefeated since meeting with President Trump.

Oh, hell yeah.

Yeah, they've won 10 straight games, going to the all-star break.

Coming to Chicago this weekend.

Excited to see him.

What's that?

I'm taking a deep breath.

I took a deep breath, and I was doing the running motion.

The bandwagon is running in front of me, me, and I'm

pretty close to hopping on.

Pretty close.

We'll see how this weekend goes.

Because, like, a month ago, you were, you had jumped off the bandwagon.

I know, but then they go on a 10-game winning streak.

They traded Raphael.

Like, that seemed to be a trade that didn't make sense at the time.

Clearly, it's working.

They're coming together as a team.

You love to see that.

They have some crazy walk-off wins.

Coming to Chicago.

I'm going to see him in person, up close and personal.

It might be time.

Okay.

Get it started.

Playing well.

I think they have a tough remaining schedule.

I saw there was a, I don't know if I have it.

I just saw the Cubs have the easiest schedule remaining, which made me feel good.

But they still need to get a pitcher.

We could have some, there's some fun, fun.

Yeah, people are saying that about that.

I mean, and that's where it's like, you know, they're saying that they're not going to make any moves to the deadline and just kind of sputter out.

But I'm getting close to believing and hopping right on the bandwagon.

Okay, so remaining, toughest, remaining schedules.

The Red Sox have the third toughest.

Scroll down.

The Cubs have the 28th easiest or the third to last or the third easiest.

Where are the Phillies and Mets?

Phillies are right in the middle.

Mets are

seven toughest.

Got some good baseball coming down the stretch, boys.

Might be a collision course

for the Mets, Phillies, Cubs.

That'd be fun.

That'd be great.

This could be a very interesting

contentious.

Are the Pods?

Padres are right there.

The NL is pretty strong.

Like, the NL has the Mets, the Phillies, the Cubs, the Brewers, the Cardinals are not out of it.

And then in the West, the Dodgers, Giants, and Padres.

I mean, Dodgers are better, but like there's a lot of good teams in the NL.

So

it's going to get spicy.

Yeah.

Okay.

Good job, Hank.

Thanks.

My hot seat is Max.

Oh, I got Max on the hot seat.

Yes.

Because, well, why do you have him on the hot seat?

I was going to say PG.

PG.

PG.

PG.

PG actually reported PG to me.

PG.

PG.

PG.

PG Max.

Yeah, no, he's probably going to go down.

Wait, what happened to PG?

PG.

Paul George.

Paul George.

Playoff P.

Playoff P, podcast P.

Post podcast P, preseason P.

Preseason P has injured himself again in the preseason.

How did he injure himself?

It's PCL?

He hurt his knee in a workout.

And

he's probably going to go down as the biggest bust in Philly history.

But the good news is.

Wait, wait.

Do you think he's going to go down?

He's the biggest bust in the game.

Ben Simmons.

Ben Simmons was an all-star.

Markel Fultz?

Markel Fultz?

Was not an all-star.

Not an all-star.

He had a triple-double his rookie year.

I remember that.

That was cool.

James Harden.

James Harden had like 50 points in

an elimination game.

Who's the guy you clapped for?

Did they?

They won that game.

Who's the guy you clapped for?

It was Trey Turner.

Trey Turner?

Yeah, he's at a bust.

I also don't think that was an elimination game.

I think that was maybe game one.

But in that playoff series, it fell apart at the end.

So it playoff P.

It was 27.

We know that.

Playoff P is in the running right now for biggest.

Can you do a Mount Rushmore of the biggest bust in Philadelphia history?

Andrew Bynum is 1-1.

Did he win a championship?

With the Lakers, I believe.

Yeah, definitely.

And then the Sixers traded a ton to get him.

I don't think he played a single game.

I think he got hurt and then never played a game.

Okay.

Playoff P.

Playoff P.

Markel Fultz.

Markel Fultz.

Yeah, Markel Fultz.

But I feel like rookie.

No, Markel Fultz is definitely up there.

What's his name, Aguilar?

Nelson Aguilar.

But that was a late.

That was only because of Justin Jefferson.

You could have got Justin Jefferson.

Yeah.

Wait, no, that's Jalen Rager.

Or Jalen Rager.

Jalen Rager.

Yeah, sorry.

Sweater, sorry.

Jalen Rager.

Jalen Rager, definitely up there.

Carson Wentz?

No, Carson Wentz was

also great because

when you traded him, you got so much.

Carson Wentz has a Super Bowl.

Okay, you said won a Super Bowl.

You said Carson Wentz won a Super Bowl.

He was a part of a Super Bowl went to the city.

He was part of a Super Bowl roster.

Yeah.

That's true.

That is a fact.

And he would have been MVP if he didn't get hurt.

When you get rid of Paul George, your team does better, right?

We know that from recent history.

Yeah, what are you going to do?

What are the Sixers going to do?

It's so crazy that the entire East is set up so perfectly for the Sixers to maybe be good, and then they have this.

Yeah.

I mean,

apparently, there's like no leg.

All the Sixers' heads are doing the, you know, same thing.

He'll be ready by training camp.

There's no ligament date.

It just was just a cleanup thing.

How did he get hurt?

It just says in a workout.

That's why you never work out.

Yeah, fair.

That's why you never work out.

Yeah, no.

Yeah.

Bad.

Really bad.

Bad vibes going into the.

I mean, the East is wide open right now.

Yeah.

Vijay Edgecombe had one, he played one game, had 28 points.

We haven't seen him since.

He just has the Sixers.

There's something in that room.

There's something.

Did you see the dunk that the elephant?

Noah Essenge.

He got dunked on, and there was in the Summer League Bulls' first-round pick, it was maybe the worst graphic, like worst picture you could ever see.

Yeah, the guy he's like screaming for his life as he gets yammed on.

The guy went full tomahawk.

Yeah.

The ball was beyond horizontal.

It was crazy.

Good, good search.

He just spelled it E-S-E-N-G-A-Y.

Yeah.

It's good.

It got me to where I needed to be.

Yeah, it got you to.

Look at that picture.

That's a tough picture.

Listen, that's a tough visual.

He basically looks like he's being assaulted.

Yeah.

That's bad.

It's bad yam.

Like, if he had a whistle, he would blow it there.

It was a bad yam.

Or he's just having the nut of a lifetime.

Yeah.

Oh, good Summer League talk.

I do love Summer League.

Oh, I had a question for you guys.

Yeah.

We need to establish this as a podcast.

The more and more we get into it, the more it feels like LeBron James might not be a Laker next year.

I would say he's not.

Right?

Playing a lot of golf now.

Play golf now.

A lot of golf.

If he does go to the Cavs and the Cavs win

in an East that is beyond depleted this year, we need to just already say that doesn't count.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

Like you got the Pacers, they're out of it.

The Bucs are probably out of it.

Yeah.

I kind of want him to go back to Cleveland.

It'll be so fun to ramp it back up.

Do you know what I'm wishing for?

Cleveland.

That would be so dumb for them to trade for LeBron.

The thing I'm rooting for, I saw a rumor that he's trying to maybe go to the Mavs to play with KD and AD

or Kyrie and A.D.

Imagine if Nico traded Cooper flag for LeBron.

That would be funny.

That would be the funniest thing ever.

That would be very funny.

I don't wish that for Madison's, but that would be the funniest thing ever.

Yeah, I just want to establish that the East is down.

Coward move if he goes to the Cavs.

Coward move if he wins a title with the Cavs.

Yeah.

Ahead of time.

Agreed.

100% agree.

My cool throne is Teddy Bridgewater being a good guy.

So Teddy Bridgewater got suspended.

He's a high school football coach in Miami.

I think it's Northwestern, Northwestern High School in Miami.

Everybody loves Teddy Bridgewater.

Everyone that you've ever talked to that's been around him loves the guy.

He has been suspended from his job as head coach because he paid for Uber rides, meals, recovery services for his players last year.

He asked fans to donate to help cover those expenses this year, and then he self-reported those payments to Miami of Northwestern.

So apparently he paid out of pocket $14,000 for Trading Camp.

He bought

Pride sets, $9,000, pregame meals,

$2,000 a week.

He paid for recovery for his players to the tune of $1,000 a week.

He bought Ubers at $700 a week and he bought the paint that goes on the field for $300 a week.

Good guy.

Good guy.

And now, why is this against the rules for a coach to do that?

I don't know, but it is one of the most absurd controversies.

I don't even want to call it a controversy because...

I think everyone has Teddy Bridgewater's side.

Like, why can't someone try to better their community?

Why is he?

And Teddy Bridgewater even said, I'm not an employee, so they can't suspend me.

He volunteered.

Yeah.

So this is all through the goodness of his heart that he did this but i think now like throughout the years we've been complaining to the ncaa you got to pay the players yep take it take it easy on the players we might have to just switch up to high school football now you got to pay the players you got to pay the players you got to pay the player pay these guys i like that they're professional they're doing netflix documentaries they're they're getting thousands of views on instagram on their highlight reels Pay the players.

Pay the players.

Pay the high school players.

Teddy Bridgewater, good guy, though.

Pay the AU players.

Yeah, listen, pay babies.

T-ball.

Babies should get paid.

Absolutely.

Okay, my hot seat is Conor McGregor.

What would happen?

He has his penis all over the internet because he sent an unsolicited dick pic to Azalea Banks.

A couple of them.

Couple of them.

Which, by the way,

I only saw the blurred out version until Jerry O'Connell accidentally sent me and PFT a full Conor McGregor nude last night out of nowhere.

Yep.

And just said, sorry, wrong text.

I don't think it was wrong text.

I think he meant

us.

He was trying to get us with Conor McGregor's penis.

Herbert.

Azalea Banks, what is she known for?

This.

Stuff like this.

Okay, so

he really kicked the hornet's nest here.

Yeah, I think that Azalea Banks would be the last person on planet Earth that you should send a dick picture to.

And Conor McGregor was like, fuck it, I'm Conor McGregor.

Maybe he was trying to get his dick out.

He might be.

That was like, because you can't leak it yourself.

So he was just doing this on purpose to be like, I want to just let everyone know that there's my penis.

Yeah, that's not a bad thought because if you send Azalea Banks, as far as I can tell, she just lives to stir shit up online now.

Okay.

That's what she does.

And Conor McGregor said it unsolicited.

Unsolicited.

So he might have just been expecting for this to happen.

Connor McGregor, I'm starting to think he might not be a good guy.

Maybe not.

There's a lot of stuff going on.

He had a weight on one of his pictures, a weight on his penis.

He was training.

Yeah.

He was doing some training.

Does that work?

Was it a weight or was it?

I thought it was...

It looked like he was doing some curls, if you know what I'm saying.

What do you got?

I thought it was like a circumcision thing.

Huh?

Foreskin?

Like it pulled it back.

Oh, I don't know.

Wait, so

he's got like a piece of equipment that he uses on his hog?

That's what it looks like.

Like a cock ring?

Like, yeah, it looked like it like pushed...

pulled everything back.

Like kind of like a hair tie for your cock.

It's hard to find the dick pic.

I was trying to find it.

Yeah.

Then Jerry helped me.

I can't find it.

Just text Jerry.

He'll send it to you.

Is that a common thing?

I don't know.

I'm not.

I don't.

Uncircumcised guys, they have a special ring they put on for sending dick pics.

I'm circumcised, so I really don't know.

But that's

our first glance, that's what it looked like.

I was confused at the difference in the two pictures, but the second one you could see.

Also, Kale Sunnin.

Chale Sunnin, yeah.

He stopped.

I've heard it pronounced both ways.

Oh, okay.

Which way have you heard, Hank?

I've heard Chale.

Chale.

Well, I'm a phonetic guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That H has to do something.

Yeah.

All right, too.

Hales have a no-show job ace or H out there.

So he hopped online yesterday.

That probably means it's Kale.

Yeah, probably, but I'm saying, like, I don't, I respect the H.

Yeah, me too.

So he said yesterday, I can't stop staring at Conor McGregor's dick.

I can't stop.

I've stared at this dick for the last two hours.

Wow.

He could be up for a takeie coming Friday.

He had a busy day.

Yeah, he did.

All right, my cool throne is Zach.

It is the summer of Zach.

Zach,

maybe when we do guys on checks, he'll give us an update whether he's going on a date or not.

But, Zach, I had a friend of ours hit me up and was like, hey, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, ever heard of them?

Would like to send something to the office?

And I said, well, I know that we have one massive Bucs

fan here at Barcelona Sports, and his name is Zach.

Can't think of another.

Look at this.

They sent you a box.

You want to open it on here.

Bring it back to the...

Oh, is that a weight at the bottom of it yeah there's a weight at the bottom yeah we're back to conor mcgregor's penis uh i didn't see that part

zach go go back in there and open it up let's see what's in there cool throw on zach yeah there's a weight he was doing weightlifting i did not see i think it's kegels is long but i it

i tried to do a kegel once you just you just squeeze yeah and i was just like nothing i don't think there's weights involved though it was one of those things that like uh what's more embarrassing doing kegles or coming too fast?

Well, it's like if you do

Kegels, maybe you'll increase your time from 30 seconds to 45 seconds.

Right, and so I made the executive decision right away.

It's like the more embarrassing thing here is having people be like, hey, you do Kegels.

Yeah.

Rather, just stay the status quo.

All right, Zach, what is in the box?

What's in the box?

What's in the box?

Oh, we got 50 seasons on the front.

Okay.

So this is, I believe, new uniform.

I think I see.

We got a letter?

Yeah.

Okay.

We want to include you a special preview of the newest piece of Buccaneers history.

Inside this box is an early look at the modern nod to the original 1976 jersey that helped define the start of the Buccaneers football.

This reimagined piece of our history is more than just a throwback.

It is a celebration of where we've been and

how far we have come.

We're excited to share it with you ahead of the official reveal.

Out of respect for the full unveiling, we kindly ask you...

hold off on sharing or posting anything from this package until 1030 Eastern on Tuesday, July 15th.

You're good.

Oh, we're good.

Yeah.

Thanks for being a part of this moment with us.

And here's the next 50 seasons of Buccaneers Football.

Sincerely, your friends in Buccaneers.

Wow.

Love that.

I can keep this?

Yeah.

See it.

Show us the jersey.

Show it to us.

It looks so sick.

Oh, wow.

It's so sick.

Oh, wow.

Oh, come on.

Come on.

That thing is awesome.

That's heap.

Oh, there's not two of them.

There's another one.

Somebody wants a jersey.

I think that one was for Stephen Buck.

I'll take it.

I think I I asked.

We got to get this to Steven.

Yeah, I'll give it to Steven.

I'll give it to Steven.

This is so sick.

Yeah.

Oh, listen.

I know you guys were ranking jerseys the other day.

Yeah.

And this has to get.

We got to go up the ladder.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, that's high.

Come on.

That's high.

Come on.

Is that your catchphrase?

It just felt right.

When I pulled him out.

I like the way you say it.

I appreciate you guys for this jersey.

And thank you to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

And thank you, Big Cat.

And thank you, KT.

Yes.

And Maxino Memes.

And thank you, Sarah Walsh, our good friend.

Shout out to Sarah Walsh for real.

Yes.

big Sarah.

Yeah.

This is sick.

I'm so excited.

I love it.

Come on.

Come on.

All right, put it on.

Put it on and do your hot seat cool throne.

It's the Baker jersey.

Oh, those are so clean.

Those are auto bets.

We got to bet them when they wear those.

No, I'm going to give the other one to Chey.

We got to give the other one to Chey.

He'll be so mad if he doesn't.

Oh,

oh,

crispy.

Those are crispy.

Oh.

Oh, come on.

Yeah, these are sick.

Yeah.

You look great.

Go, Bucks.

Yeah, take off the tag.

You look like a poser.

There you go.

All right, Zach, your hot seat cool thrown.

Yes, sir.

I got one for you.

So, hot seat, you guys are competing in a home run derby today.

I did enjoy the last home run derby, and Max went 113 for 190.

So I would like to see Max is my hot seat today because I would like to see Max go yard again.

Okay.

All right.

Okay.

That's going to be.

So obviously the start of the show, we'll probably talk about it, but do we want to do predictions that will look stupid afterwards?

Team Max versus Team Hank?

I think Hank drafted a great team.

There was no draft.

Good picks, Hank.

Hank's team looks pretty good.

Hank's pretty diesel.

Last year, I think I went 9 for 10

three or four times.

I just went 10 for 10 once.

Okay.

that's my personal goal.

Yeah, once you find it, once you find it, you're lethal.

I think you guys.

Last year, I also tore my bicep and was on the DL for like three weeks.

That cannot happen.

I forgot you tore it.

It can't happen this year.

How did you tear your bicep?

From taking a bunch of swings.

It hurt really bad, like halfway through, but I found it through.

And I just, I was, I got really competitive and didn't care about the injury.

Huge mistake.

So you're caring about injuries?

Yes.

Okay.

Fair.

I also feel like tearing your bicep from swinging is

kind of soft.

Soft.

Yeah, very soft.

Like, people take that many swings.

There also may have been a workout suit involved that might have fucked up my bicep beforehand, but that's alright.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

All right, your cool throne.

You did hit roughly 85 home runs, last year, Hank.

Roughly or exactly?

I think it's I'm exact.

I skipped all the way to the end of the video to get the graphic.

I may be like one home run off.

Okay.

That sounds good.

Still strong performance, though.

Yeah.

All right.

I do have a quick cool throne.

Are you guys familiar with Los Polos TV?

Yes.

No.

Hank, that's sick.

So Los Polos is a streamer, a YouTube video.

So he is what you would call...

Anyone familiar with NBA 2K?

Yes.

Los Polos would be Mount Rush

all-time NBA 2K player online.

Great Fortnite player, too.

Fantastic at Fortnite as well.

Okay.

So

he is a cool thrown today because Los Polos on record, big Drake fan, historically massive Drake fan.

And this last weekend at the Wireless Festival in London, he was not only shouted out on stage, but he was also main feed Instagram posted.

I loved seeing this for him.

I knew it was a huge moment.

And as someone who grew up watching Los Polos TV, I love this for him.

Okay.

Good for him.

Cool throne.

Okay.

Shout out Los Polos.

I love this because when Zach does these and I have no idea what they are,

usually like the account will

be like, thanks for the shout-out, pardon my take.

That is Joey Camasta.

That's just Joey.

They'll be like, thanks for the shout-out, pardon my take.

And I'll look at the person and they have like 10 million followers.

Like, wow, that was actually good.

Yeah.

Work, Zach.

So,

so Drake's his boy now.

They look pretty broed up in the photo.

They do look broed up.

And we talked about like Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard.

It's kind of like the Rizzler.

And then Los Polos would be the next iteration.

And then Los Los Polos' dad would be Charizard.

The adult version of the Rizzler.

Yeah.

Got it.

AJ.

Big Justice, you mean?

Oh, The Rizzler.

No, but the adult version of the Rizzler is Big Justice.

No.

What are you talking about?

What?

It's Wad.

So Los Polos TV's dad is also like a guy?

Yeah, they stream together.

Oh, yeah, they're identical.

Those are the same guy.

The exact same guy.

His dad has some fucking hilarious, hilarious clips.

Wad is the man too.

So it's Jay Portnoy and Mr.

Portnoy?

Yeah, I guess, yeah.

Okay.

It's going to be crazy when Zach's a bigger streamer than all these guys.

Yeah.

Crazy.

This is going to be crazy all.

Not a chance.

Los Polos is going to be Hall of Fame all-time stamp.

Oh, yeah.

Los Polos is the guy.

Wait, how long have you been watching Los Polos?

Many a, many a year.

Okay.

What's your favorite moment from Los Polos?

Anything 2K related.

Also, when it's a running thing, he reads threats from the chat, and they're always hilarious.

He reads threats?

Yes.

Okay.

Wait, so so he was just nasty at 2K?

Uh, yeah, he's great at the game, and also, like, he just builds a sense of like you're playing a game, you're also watching Lowe's play the game.

It's like a homelessly, yeah, you're almost like you're hanging out.

Yeah, I love that, love that.

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Okay.

Mount Rushmore time.

Standings.

What are the standings?

I forget.

Somebody give it to us.

13, 12, 11.

13, 12, 11.

Oh, shit.

I just saw memes sent us Connor McGregor's cock.

13, 12, 11.

13, Maxim Memes, 12, P15 Hank, 11 Big Hattie.

Is anyone our first win?

All right.

Today we're doing the Mount Rushmore of things people don't care about.

Is that correctly phrased?

Stuff no one cares about.

Stuff no one cares about.

Okay, who is up first?

Is it us?

That'd be Big Cat and Zach.

Okay.

Then me and Max are second.

It's going counterclock or actually.

Well, no, we're all screwed up.

We can't do that.

We're all screwed up on this.

By the way, I just want to say a caveat before I think it's very cool to care about things.

This is not an indictment on caring.

Caring is cool.

Everyone has things they love and care about, but this is just stuff people don't care about.

Okay.

The first pick we will take

your fantasy team.

Don't care about your fantasy team.

It's a good pick.

I don't know how the phrasing.

So is it going to say your fantasy?

Yeah, I think all of it is going to be like your team.

Yes, I think.

Yeah.

Okay.

Or is it someone else's or fantasy team?

I guess, yeah.

I think it has to be yours.

Yeah.

I think it's yours.

I think your has to be your family.

I think we we can just do that for all, for most of most of us.

Yeah.

Okay.

What are you thinking?

Did you guys have that on your list?

Yeah.

We did?

Yeah.

Of course.

I think the first couple are on everyone's list.

We're going to go your dreams.

Okay.

Yeah.

Good one.

Have that.

All right.

So we're going to double up.

It's you here.

Yeah, we're going to double up.

I think, Hank, I think we go number three and then number two.

I trust you wholeheartedly.

Okay.

Your parlay.

At it.

Gonna take that, and then on the way back, COVID.

Okay.

No one cares about it anymore yep that's a good one that's true um

i have

imagine all of the i'm i'm going to i'm

i'm going to accept a veto on this next bit

okay all right veto

auto veto no give it to us it's just that these two things are so similar okay that i want that i understand but they're whatever i i i will say your dog slash child photos no it's got to be one or the other yeah okay i will tell you

they're not that similar they're not similar no they're pretty much the same thing yeah yeah

yeah one's dog well you but it's like the same thing you have a dog it's the exact same thing raising it's a puppy as it is a baby no but it's just the but it's the pay it's the picture of like whatever i will i will take your child your child's photos okay okay okay it seems a little cold-hearted yeah but that i mean that's the that's max hates kids can i brought a human being into this world that's like the hardest thing someone can do okay you that's my pick That's pretty disrespectful to your mom.

That's my peck.

That is very disrespectful to your mom.

Like, if your mom posts on Facebook, you're like, Mom, why are you posting this bullshit?

It's actually disrespectful to all moms.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Sounds like you dogs on the other hand.

Yeah.

Fair point.

Um,

what do we do here, Zach?

Uh, do you like eight?

Or is eight not strong enough?

We do have some other hitters, maybe.

Yeah,

we do have some hitters.

We have a couple hitters.

Um,

Man, this is tough.

This is tough.

This is where it gets tough.

This is where it gets tough.

That one was taken.

I think one, two.

That one is very difficult.

We still have your 1-1?

Yeah, we still do.

Well, we didn't order it exactly the right way, but I do think that one is...

I think 1-4.

I think 1-4, so yeah, 1-4 plays.

All right, so this is a little different than the kids' photos.

Don't care about your kids' sports accomplishments.

Like, when people are like, oh, my kid did awesome in, you know, T-ball or like this.

Like, I know when I say it to someone, I'm like, this is the most boring thing I could possibly tell someone.

Yeah.

It's a participation trophy.

Right.

Right.

So

15 or 14.

It's huge sports.

Like, if they're in high school, it could be something.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When you're like, yeah, my kid had a double in T-ball.

Don't fucking care.

I would even say that when Archie Manning talks about his children, I tune out.

Yeah.

Quit bragging on your kids, dude.

Yeah.

And then

don't care about your opinion on politics.

Just don't care.

When someone gives, shares their opinion on politics.

Do not care.

Yeah, but what if they can shape your opinion?

I don't care.

When someone shares their opinion on politics, I do not care.

Sometimes it's interesting.

If it's a wild celebrity and they go in a direction that you did not think that they were going to go, then I'm like, oh.

Okay.

Okay.

No, yeah.

Athletes, when they do it, it's like.

Yeah.

I like watching you hit bombs.

Right.

Right.

I don't care.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's good pitch.

So it could be celebrities opinions on politics specifically.

Because I do not care at all.

Athletes, you do.

So, I mean, celebrities and athletes are the same thing.

Would you want me to put athletes slash celebrities?

No.

Celebrities, that's fine.

Okay.

Okay.

We're going to go with your concert videos.

Yeah, that's a good one.

Really good one.

And everyone takes it.

Is there anything quicker that you

scroll upon on instagram that it's like yep someone putting their entire concert it's like oh tap tap tap tap tap don't care about this at all yeah yep they upload like an hour and 20 minutes to youtube from the shittiest angle with the worst audio

good pick good pick okay so it's on us hank i like six a lot i know you love six do it you love six oh and then you uh but you can do whatever you want first whether or not you're drunk at the funeral i think five i think five is good too yeah your ball oh who's making the picks?

This is me.

5C.

All right, so I'm going to go with Hank's pick.

Your workout pictures.

Okay.

Yeah.

Unless they're hot.

If it's a hot chick, I'm just throwing that out there.

That's not that.

That's totally different.

That's right.

A hot chick working out is

that.

What about a guy when they're like...

But I'm saying the hot chick working out, I care.

That's what I told Hank.

Yeah.

That's also the highest percentage of workout photos you'll see is attracted to women.

Yeah, true.

And then for the last one, we're going to go soccer.

No one cares about soccer.

Soccer as a whole.

Soccer.

The sport of soccer.

Soccer.

Okay.

I think it's going to play well nicely on the graphic.

Okay.

Think of sport in the world.

Okay.

Memes and I just stumbled upon one that I thought was our - I realized it has not been taken yet.

Your golf round.

Oh.

Yeah.

Hank vetoed that.

Yeah, he did.

Did you want to say that?

No, Hank made a good point, which is that golfers do care about your golf round.

But like this.

I care.

Hank does care.

But to your, it is, it's if it's someone you know and it's a course you've played,

I'm so like specific, though.

Yeah.

And like if someone has a has a great round,

don't care.

Oh, I'm smashing the heart every time.

Yeah.

Dialed.

I think they care to the extent that if they've also played that course, they can then be like, yeah, well, when I was on that course, this is what I did.

Yeah.

But if you like see someone and they're and they're like, oh, what did you do today?

They're like, oh, I golfed.

I had it.

I hit a birdie on 15 to get me on.

I'm like, don't care.

Slotted.

Yeah.

All right.

Zach, what do we do?

Because I think we can't pick the thing we wanted to pick.

You don't think we can pick 21?

It was a stronger pick than what they picked, but should we say it?

I just think those two things are vastly different.

I do.

One's an organization and one is a soccer.

Okay.

We were going to pick the MLS

specifically, but I don't know if that gets vetoed.

We thought a lot of people.

But a lot of people care about soccer.

No one cares about the MLS.

The biggest sport in the world.

Not even the MLS care care.

Not even the players care about.

No one really cares about soccer, though.

Okay.

Yeah, I mean, I think people do care about soccer.

I think no one cares about the MLS.

No one cares about soccer.

I mean, there's definitely a lot of people that care about soccer.

Matters care about.

We'll do something different.

What about 13?

What are you feeling about 13?

That's kind of in the mood these days.

Kidding up on the time.

Can't hear you, Zach.

I like 13.

Do you think, one quick glance at our list, do you think there's anything stronger?

I think

17.

Yeah.

Oh,

it's so strong.

What about 9, Zach?

Stop it.

It's not right, guys.

23.

Yeah, let's do 17.

Let's rip 17.

No, wait, wait.

Hold on.

13 is.

You're right.

13 is good.

No, I like 17.

Let's go.

Let's stay strong.

Don't break.

Stay strong.

Don't break.

Stay strong.

Don't break.

13 is strong.

Stay strong.

Don't break.

NBA All-Star game.

Do not care.

Do not care at all.

Fun to complain about.

Yeah, but it's just, it's the do not care at all.

Yeah.

No one cares.

It's a good pick.

Good.

13 was your marathon training.

I think the Pro Bowl is a stronger pick than marathon training is probably.

I don't even think anyone watches the Pro Bowl.

Yeah, but exactly.

But I mean, the NBA All-Star game gets talked about, and I don't care.

I forgot that the package happened last time.

The fact that people talk about it means that people care more about that than the Marathon.

I'm happy you didn't pick Marathon Training.

That's probably a better version of your workout pictures.

Yeah.

Probably.

All right, so we fucked up, Zach.

Fucked that up.

No, we say that.

Marathon Training is a.

Oh, Marathon Training is a good one.

Great one.

Great one.

They're just saying that to say it.

Don't let them get to you.

No, I'm not.

MLS would have been

way better than soccer kids.

Do you agree?

Dude, no one cares about soccer.

MLS is different.

No one always cares about things.

Zach, do you agree?

MLS would have been a great animal.

No, MLS is a way better pick.

Name one soccer.

Although,

Christian Ronaldo, Messi.

I'll give you this.

It's a better pick, but

soccer looks way better.

Wait a minute.

What did you say?

Cole Palmer?

Hold on.

You just said Lionel Messi, though.

Messi also soccer player.

Yeah.

Also plays for the MLS.

Shit.

True.

Good point.

Your argument was MLS is better.

Messi vacations at the MLS.

His legacy was not that much.

That's true, facts.

Way to fight for someone.

Picks on other grown men in the MLS.

I'm on your side, but that was a bad argument.

Zach had your feelings.

Like, he doesn't care about other people's feelings.

Memes had a couple bangers that are just.

I had your day.

Oh, that's a good one.

That's your day.

Yeah.

Zach also had one that I was.

Well, that's just such a meme day.

It is, yeah.

It's true.

It's true.

Zach had movies.

He doesn't care about movies.

Okay.

Memes had something similar.

He was like the movie that you saw, but I was like, that's actually one thing I do care about.

You kind of care about.

Because if you saw a good movie

and I respect your opinion, I will want to watch that movie.

Or if I was going to go see it and that that's just bad.

Like I want to know about it.

I won't go see it.

Would the Dallas Cowboys have played on the graphic?

I mean, the numbers say that people care about it.

That's it.

That was my

numbers are irrelevant in this discussion.

Next point.

Some big picture ones.

I had the national debt.

Yeah, I had the deficit.

Yeah.

Don't care.

Global warming, don't care.

Expensive wines, don't care.

SNL.

Just as an entity, people always complain about it.

I don't care.

Yeah, they complain about who's hosting.

Or it's too liberal.

Or it's too this or that.

It's not funny anymore.

I'm like, I don't care.

I professional boxing on the list.

Ooh, I care.

Professional boxing?

If there's one fight a year, I will care about one fight a year, but I don't really care.

A couple tough ones that I wanted to throw on there because I personally don't care, but I think a lot of people do care about it, is celebrity couples and the royal family.

Yeah.

Don't care.

Yeah.

But that is someone that a lot of people care about.

Coney 2012.

How do we miss your diet?

That would have been a strong pick.

People telling you about your diet.

Don't care.

No, I care.

Okay.

No, Max, you don't care.

No, I don't.

You're in charge of my nutrition and you've done nothing.

Yeah, I have done nothing.

How much sleep you got?

Yeah.

People being like, oh, I didn't get enough sleep or I got so much sleep.

The one time you got really drunk in college.

Yeah, I had

a youth sports accomplishments.

Like you're like, not your kids, like you saying, like, oh, I hit a home run in Little League.

It's like, all right.

Or, oh, Shane Victorino.

We're college athletes.

You guys are just making fun of me.

Hey, Hank, put your Spotify wrapped.

I feel it.

I care about that.

Yeah, I care.

Do you?

Yeah, because it shows our fans, the AWLs.

Wow, Hank.

I'm in for music, but yeah, I guess.

Hank just hated Spotify.

We had McLemore.

Yeah.

Okay.

I agree with that.

I had what you're doing at work.

Don't care.

Yeah.

Your business idea.

Unless it's really good.

Unless you're on cocaine.

Then I do care.

Movie script.

Yeah.

Mid-range game.

That was a good one, PFT.

Mid-range, range game.

Yeah.

Pictures are your food.

Yep.

Don't care.

Sometimes I care.

Sometimes I'm like, wow, that looks really good.

Where was that?

But that's going to be good.

See, that's where it's like,

for people that play golf, it's just you for food.

Yeah.

Everyone eats food.

No, I think that's what I'm saying.

But no one

doesn't eat food.

Most people

eat.

Name someone who doesn't eat food.

That looks really good.

Did you name it?

Many people who don't golf.

Most people don't care about other people's food.

You're like, oh, most people eat.

All people eat.

Yeah.

Not all people.

All people eat.

Fact.

I got one that actually, when we decided to do this topic, it was, I think, the first thing that popped in my head, and it doesn't probably work, but it works for me personally.

I don't care about crosswalks.

Okay.

At all.

Big J guy?

I just don't care.

Like, they tell me where I got to walk.

I'm going to walk where I want to walk.

I don't care.

Especially like New York City.

I don't think I ever walked in a crosswalk.

No, yeah, I'm a J.

I'm just fucking going right across the street.

Just don't care.

That's a, they're a soft, they're softly telling me where to walk, and I'm saying, no, I'm not going to do that.

Don't care.

We had Katy Perry.

Yeah.

Ah, I still care about her.

The fish that you caught?

Cannons.

Fish that you caught.

Yeah.

That would be tough.

Fish that you caught.

That's a good one.

That would have been tough while Hank is wearing a fish hat.

Yeah.

Don't care about washing jeans.

Nope.

That's a good one.

Yeah.

Spam callers.

Or like the people who steal.

Oh, I can't.

Oh, physical male.

Physical male, do not care.

That's a great answer.

Should have done that.

That's a great answer.

The male.

Your allergies, don't care.

Don't care.

The Jeffrey Epstein list?

Who's Jeffrey Epstein?

Yeah.

People are still on that?

No one talks about it.

People still care about that?

There isn't.

Moved on.

Yeah, come on.

Your pregnancy posts on Facebook.

Also, your engagement posts.

Those aren't nice.

I like knowing.

Those are two nice things.

I like knowing who's knocked up.

Show me when there's a baby.

Billboards.

I want to see an actual baby.

Okay, that's fair.

Billboards?

Yeah, yeah.

You said billboards.

Billboards is good.

Commercials on gas pumps?

Oh, yes.

Don't care.

Commercials and cabs.

Commercials and cabs, yeah.

The people who stand outside of stores that try to sell you something?

Yeah.

There's a ton in Chicago.

Yeah.

Kickers?

That's one that matters a lot.

You care a lot about them.

You care a lot about them.

Yeah, interior offensive lineman.

Yeah.

Hank said your new haircut.

Yeah.

I'd say that's fair.

Don't really.

I was just trying to think of, I was getting the mindset of like when I go on Instagram and people post X, like, when am I like, this is the dumbest thing.

Oh, your vacation.

Yeah.

Don't care.

No.

Don't care about the weather on your vacation specifically.

When people come back and they're like, oh, the weather was incredible.

Don't care.

Your commute?

Do not care.

Someone shares their commute, like, oh, it's terrible getting in today.

It's like, all right, cool.

I hope there's so many AWLs who are listening to this and they just like go and delete their entire Instagram story because they're like, fuck, nobody cares about what I just, what I, what I have just posted.

It's a golf round.

But there's a lot of NBA All-Star game recap.

There's a lot of stuff that you do care about.

Yeah.

Everybody posts, but just we all don't like when other people do it.

Correct.

Yeah.

But yeah, I mean, like I said, it's cool to care.

This isn't an indictment on caring.

This is just stuff that I think we all can agree.

Don't really care.

Yeah.

Like I well, yeah, I still post all these things.

I just don't see what other people do.

yeah.

But I think it's also good to have self-awareness.

Oh, yeah.

Like, when I do say, like, oh, like, oh, my son had a double in T-Ball, I'm like, this is, I wish I could stop this story right now and not say it.

Like, this is stupid.

I shouldn't be sharing this.

Or, like, when you talk about your golf round,

the national well, you asked me.

I do not bring it up unprompted.

Well, we talked about a whole recap.

We talked about our days on this podcast.

Yeah.

And our children.

It's tough to avoid.

And I have 18.

Your children is 18.

Memes doesn't care about your day.

You just don't.

I like that, memes.

That's brutal honesty.

Memes only cares about hate.

Yeah.

And memes.

And memes.

And memes.

Okay.

Let's do our interviews.

We got the Shanes.

We got Shane Victorino.

Awesome interview with him.

Also,

all-time Max moment.

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Now, here is the Flying Hawaiian, Shane Victorina.

Okay, we now welcome on a a very, very special guest, two-time World Series champion, the flying Hawaiian, Shane Victorino.

I'll start with a really stupid question.

How much better does two-time World Series champion sound than one-time?

That's got to be like, because you got the second at the end of your career.

That's nice that people always have to introduce you as two-time World Series champion.

It's nice to get one, but you're right.

To get two, it's absolutely amazing.

I mean, to hear it, you know, I always told people growing up, just to, you know, tell yourself that to be a one-time World Champion was good enough, but to be two, it's pretty fun.

Do you ever bust out the rings?

Never.

Why?

Because I honestly tell you, if I got to wear my ring, then I didn't do enough on a baseball field.

What do you mean?

You are the ring.

Yeah, I mean, I got to tell myself, like, if I have to, and not in a negative way, and I always tell people

it's more of a, I call it the fact that if...

You understand that I was a World Series champion.

I was a big part of, you know, those championships that hopefully I won't have to wear my ring to show my, you know, kind of a thing.

But you're right.

As far as everywhere I go and everybody hears that, everybody wants to see him, everybody wants to touch him.

I'm like, the question is, do you ever wear them?

Like, honestly, I don't really like to.

And again, I don't want to attract the attention.

I mean, honestly, think about me walking in a room anywhere I go with a big old fat ring.

Everybody's going to be like,

I think it's like, yeah, you know, I don't know.

If you never won one, then you say, I would wear that all the time.

Yeah.

And then you, I guess, I'm being a little, you know, I think this is the difference between like athletes and regular guys because I dream of like any championship ring, I would wear it all the time.

We got a championship ring for for our lacrosse team that we own, and she wears that all the time.

Yeah, she's

do you know where your rings are?

I do know, okay.

Yes, they're definitely tucked away nicely because maybe you should say you don't know.

That would even be worse.

Yeah, right.

I sold them, don't worry.

I sold them like it wasn't.

I don't know where they are.

Like, I can't find them.

I got so many trophies.

Yeah, it's sad to see when you do hear people selling them, like you said.

I know.

So, you said before we started taping, you were very lucky.

You got to play in two great sports towns.

So, what is the better sports town?

Philly or

You tell me.

No.

I tell people it's two unbelievable fan bases that have a love and a passion for their sports.

And well, I separate the two and how I separate the two is, you know, and then there are two different championships.

One, like you said, was early in my career.

I was a young kid.

Later on, I was at the back end.

But what separates the two for me was I.

There's not many championships in the city of Philadelphia and people don't realize that.

And people don't talk about that all the time.

People think that Philadelphia, there's a plethora of

trophies or championships in that city.

So I take that a little bit more on that side because there's not many.

Like the game of baseball, we lost over 10,000 games.

I remember I was a part of it.

It's still there.

And you look and go, 10,000 games?

We've been around forever.

There was one championship.

And then we became the second.

So, like, those kind of things are what makes, I think, Philadelphia a little bit more.

I mean, you think about it.

Tom Brady won what?

Seven.

And then you got the Celtics have won.

And then, you know, they won in four, seven.

We won in 13, 18.

I mean, that's a lot of championships in just the last 20 years in a city.

So I always tell people, that's what makes Philadelphia to me a little bit more special.

But, I mean, as far as going back to the fan bases, man, to win in those kind of cities.

Special.

I think with Philly,

it's that they let you know when they win one.

So, yeah, they've got a handful of ranks, right?

But they let you know for years and years, like, hey, you remember that team?

It kind of becomes more of a focus, more like a.

Well, because you don't have many.

That's why I'm saying it's hard to go and say in Boston, well, shit, Brady's got seven you know the celtics got how many in each sport so that's what i think that's again going back to that touching that point is that that's what is is is where i feel like they come egotistic about it because they don't have many if you do have a lot you act a little differently i'm not saying you call it take it for granted but if you know that in every major sport you got a chance to win a championship in the city of boston it's pretty different you know is it have you gone back to both cities and can you feel the difference like in that philly you know they're they're like there's shane victorino i've been in i spent eight years there and I spent two and a half in Boston.

So that's another thing I tell people like, so in regards to that, yes.

And then, you know, Boston was what made Boston special was the fact that the bombings and the magnitude of what had happened at the beginning of the year and how we were able to transcend that, like, the city and bring the joy and the pride.

That was what was cool about, you know, I get to touch on it, that second championship was that big factor.

So, I mean, but as I said, both great, unbelievable fan bases.

This is our fucking city.

That was exactly.

That was poppy.

Can you answer your question?

Because I've always wondered this about David Ortiz.

Whenever he'd hit a triple, it'd be like once every two years, you'd get really excited for some reason.

Do you know why he would get so excited about hitting a triple?

Because it was always about his speed, bro.

You know,

he wasn't very fast, so to be able to go from first to third.

It's a big moment.

A lot of times, if he's hitting it that far, it's usually in the seat, so he doesn't, you know.

But

maybe there's something else that he got excited about.

Oh, maybe I didn't know that one.

Yeah, he had maybe a little secret deal at

home, yeah.

You get a triple, you get a triple.

Oh, wow, man, I didn't know that.

Well, damn, man.

Good for him.

Wait, speaking of speed, you ran a 4-3 in high school?

I did.

I was pretty fast.

That's wide receiver speed.

That's insane.

But I also was 5'9 and 150 pounds.

Yeah, but that's insane speed.

I had, I mean, but again, at the end of the day, that was my game in the big leagues.

You know, I tell people I wasn't a baseball player.

Like, I had God-given speed through all the sports that I played through growing up, and that was my 1-2.

And then, and even in baseball, that became the, you know, the tool that carried me to the sport.

But yeah, I mean, could I have, I mean, I loved, I thought I was going to be the next, you know, I love soccer.

I don't know if you guys knew that, but soccer was my favorite sport.

I thought I was going to be the next Pele.

And, you know, being as fast as I was, it was so much fun playing soccer.

Just running by everyone?

You want to go over there?

I want to push it five feet and I'm going to run by you.

And it was cool.

So rank your sports, what you were best at.

Obviously, baseball.

Soccer was my best.

Okay, soccer was your best one.

Soccer was my number one.

That's such an awesome flag.

Soccer number was number one.

And like I said, I wanted to be Pele.

I grew up wanting to be like Pele.

I wanted to be set out.

But at 99, you know, there was really nothing.

And my dad was like, well, you can go overseas.

I was like, I don't want to go overseas.

You know, football, my dad was like, you're 5'9.

So that became my second sport because

I finally got to play it, put on the helmets, the flex.

You can't catch me.

It's like how to, you know,

cat a mouse on a football field.

So I love football.

And then baseball was like the fourth because it was the hardest.

So it was three.

Three was track.

Wait, was baseball your worst sport?

Worst.

Well, it wasn't the worst.

It was the hardest.

So I didn't like it.

But again, having a father that sat me down, my senior year and goes, okay, son, you're small.

Soccer's not an option.

You don't want to run for a living.

Well, if you get drafted, maybe baseball becomes, you know, maybe it's an opportunity there.

Yeah.

And that's how he played out, honestly.

That's crazy.

Baseball's hard.

I mean, we were touching upon it earlier, you know, before we got him on.

It's like, baseball is the hardest thing to do in the world.

I mean, I don't care.

Golf's hard.

Listen, you can play golf.

An 80-year-old man can play golf.

A 70-year-old kick him.

But if I tell, you know, hey, let's go down to the park and let me throw a 70-mile an hour, 80-mile an hour fastball at you.

I was going to throw the first one at your head.

That's part of the game.

So, and you'll never want to step back in.

So that's the hardest.

So that's why I didn't play it growing up.

You know, like, I mean, I I played it, but it wasn't like, yeah, I want to go play baseball every day.

That's crazy.

Do you remember like your worst slump in the big leagues and what you did to get out of it?

Because you're right.

Like the baseball, and we've talked to a lot of baseball players, the fact that you could fail for like two weeks at a sport and still be a good, you know what I mean?

And be happy body when you come.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's still be a really good.

And then you hit three hits on the, you know, after 14 days, you're like, I'm back.

I'm good.

I think some of my toughest slumps was all out of it was mental too.

It's just, it's, you said, it's such a grind.

So not only are you physically not able to achieve some of the goals, but you're just mentally grinding through it So I mean I remember a lot of our coaches which having great of them, you know great coaches was a lot of them would sit me for a day and just tell me like you're not playing tonight Don't even do nothing go sit inside.

You know, I might need you in the eighth or ninth if the game comes up and then the next day you come out and you just it's almost like a re-register.

It wasn't like this big, you know.

I mean baseball's hard as I said.

When you go through those things, it's such a, I tell people the mental side of what makes baseball hard is that like you said, you go, I can go three weeks without being successful at all.

You'd be doing that.

You know, would you be happy with that at your driver?

No chance.

You're doing a radio station if you're

if you did a bad show for two weeks, you're off, you're off, you're fired.

So that's what, like you said, what's crazy about baseball.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

So back to your high school days, you got an offer to play for June Jones at Hawaii?

I did.

To kick?

I did, to kick.

Did you ever consider that?

I did.

Well, that was an option.

I mean, that was the second option.

And the reason that was actually the heavily weighed option was I had a mom who looked at me and said, you're never going to be a big leaguer.

It's not a reality.

You going to college, getting a diploma, or getting an education, getting, you know, and

going on into life.

That's your chance.

Right.

So that was the biggest challenge.

And at the end of it, it was literally on the table.

And it was the day I got drafted.

I had a partial scholarship, nothing more than that.

It's crazy when people, you know, ask me like, oh, you were probably sought after.

I go, I said, I had a partial scholarship to go to the University of hawaii to play baseball the day i get drafted i get offered by june jones a full ride because a kicker scholarship came over and i was a soccer player so this is how it all turns into i became and he offered me that and i took it and i was totally gun whole yeah till i realized that i didn't want to go to school

by the way that's a completely fair thing to do by the way yeah you're the steve jobs in sports yeah not wanting to go to school but also aside there and this is going to sound obviously like a tourist but the way you said hawaii was awesome.

Oh, thank you.

Yeah.

I mean, that's, I mean, how cool is I've been to Hawaii once.

It's, it's magical.

Like, growing up there, what was it like growing up there?

You grow up in paradise.

You didn't know any better.

Yeah.

I mean, it's like I tell people anywhere, you know, you're from.

I mean, there's always something special about your place.

Yes, Hawaii is different.

It's this magical place that everybody.

But when I was growing up, I just, it was my backyard.

When did you start surfing?

I never did.

What?

Well, you're going to find out.

I knew this was going to caught you.

Yes.

So I think early on in my life, I boogieboarded, I dove, i did all the fishing i did all the oceans but i just never got into surfing and then i think there was a couple times though like my friends and i talk now that when i was boogie boarding as a young kid i really wasn't good at it and i got waffled and i didn't have a love for the ocean and i was always terrified and i never really found and then the second part is honestly i was playing a lot of my sports on land and that my mom and dad would always say like you can't

you got soccer practice you got baseball where my buddies would be like peace out surfs up i'm gone you know and they would go and i always always had that you know so i never really fell in love with it i always respected those guys did you have you ever thought about as an adult like trying it trying no i'm way past that in life i would be a good video you know it's funny i've had some of the greatest conversation with those guys and they all asked me how do you stand there in a batter's box and try to hit a baseball i go how do you stand there and run on a hundred foot wave behind you and you think you're so cool and i was like we're we're there there's a different wavelength here so my point is just crazy how people look at baseball but i look at surfing as that kind of like it's this I look at them as legendary because I always thought it was hard.

I mean, to go out there, you know, as I said, growing up fighting currents all your life, swimming in the ocean with your friends, it's not, it's not a normal playground.

Yeah.

But

when I went to Hawaii, I took, I went surfing once and I thought I was like nailing it.

And then I looked back and the instructor was pushing my board.

And I was like, well, this

is a good thing.

Well, to do it all.

Yeah, you feel in a great spot.

I mean, I can picture myself getting in a barrel and riding that.

I can picture it, but I don't think it ever is.

yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I think I got to overcome the biggest fear

of the ocean.

Like

the power of the ocean.

It's not even just

what's in the waters, just the respect and the, you know, what I had for what I call, you know, experiences probably as a youth in Mother Nature and going, this is not for me.

Did you travel as a kid or were you mostly there?

Mostly stayed there.

Yeah.

I didn't leave much.

When was the first time you saw snow?

Well, lucky enough, as a kid, our highest mountaintop, it snowed.

So I got to go out there as a kid and go visit and see what we called snow.

It was like you're looking out now at the top of Tahoe and you see that little white cap up there.

That's what I considered my snow.

So as a kid, there was a few times it snowed at our ties peak.

But if you want to talk about a real like cold, a cold equatable was probably...

My years in the Meyer Lakes.

I think I ended up in, I was in Scranton, Wilkesbury.

And I remember one of the first times we were in Buffalo, New York.

And it was, you know, April.

It was got to have been 20 degrees.

The wind was blowing that day.

And I remember sitting next to the heater in the dugout.

I'm out.

One of my teammates go, what's going on?

And you'll go, bro.

I've never been this cold in my life.

So that was kind of my first run of really experiencing the snow.

That would make you homesick real fast.

Oh, real fast.

I actually realized, like, why am I playing baseball?

Yeah.

Why do people live here?

It was so cold.

You're right.

Yeah.

Who's your favorite teammate from all your stops in Major League Baseball and why?

I would have to say Jimmy Rollins.

Okay.

You know, he was a big, he was like a big brother to me.

He took me in as a rookie.

You know, we've just, he was a guy that I always wanted to, you know, idolize when I was playing.

You know, we always had our,

like you said, your little internal lacrosse teams and all that stuff or your teams that you have.

We always had internal bets to make ourselves better.

So when I look back on my career, having a guy that pushed me like that, you know, through all those years, I mean, he was the one teammate that I would say would, you know, I mean, he was in my wedding.

That tells you that.

Yeah, yeah.

Also, a very cool guy.

Yeah.

Awesome, bro.

great.

He's awesome.

Yeah.

Fun to watch play.

Yeah.

We should also give you credit.

I think you're the only player to ever win two World Series for two different teams and hit a home run for the Savannah Bananas.

I didn't hit a home run.

It wasn't.

You played for the bananas?

But I hit a double in the gap.

I thought it was a home run.

It wasn't.

It was a double in the gap.

It looked like it looked good.

But it was a double in the gap.

And it ended up scoring the winning run in that inning.

So, how'd they get you to go out there and play?

I don't know.

I just thought, you know what's funny?

Honest to truth, is

my son wanted to get tickets to watch the Savannah Bananas in Las Vegas, and I tried through every avenue I could possibly,

and I got denied.

And I was like, what is this?

Yeah.

What is this?

And lo and behold, I said, you know what?

I think it was Jake Peavy or Johnny or somebody said, dude, go play with them.

They would love to.

And I was like,

I'll text the guy, but I don't know if I want to play.

So moral of the story is, that's how I got in tune with the Savannah Bananas.

So I said to go tell myself that I had to go play for them so my kids could go watch a Savannah Banana games in Las Vegas.

So being around them, is it true?

I've heard that the bananas are just swimming in pussy.

Is that true?

Put it this way.

My wife was more excited at the end of the game to watch all of them jump in the pool in Las Vegas

versus you're right.

So yes, even the, you know, some firms.

Say, well, what, man, I got to go back to being 26 with Abs Babe.

Like, you know, like, but it was fun.

And then that, and it is, it is crazy the phenomenon of the family aspect the women that love it not just the you know the kids i mean it's these moms that are out there they're so excited to be there it's crazy it's awesome bro it is the crazy i think it's in their contract they're like we'll pay you this and then also pussy i i also want to know what whatever they're doing they're doing it right they're not they're nailing it you know they're having fun but unfortunately the older guys can't have that luxury over

so we joined that doesn't come in my contract you mentioned your abs what was the offseason you sent a picture of your abs to your manager like every day is that true no way I would never do that.

Yeah, you did.

No.

Not once?

Did you send it?

I might have said one to John Farrell, I think, or somewhere.

Okay, so that's literally true.

You got they were talking about it, and I said, you know what, I'm going to flex on his ass.

But I think it was.

Was it sick to have abs?

I never really had them.

That was the point.

I think it was more like, it's getting better, but I never had abs in my life.

No.

All right, so you also had two postseason Grand Slams.

How often do you watch those back?

I think my brother watches them way more than me.

So when he's watching it, I end up watching it.

But yeah, I mean, they're great moments.

I think that.

I would watch it every day if I were you.

I would.

No, I get it.

I definitely watch it when I need that, you know, that, that, that, that reminder of how lucky I was and how blessed I was.

Yeah.

And when I say it that way, it's like, you know, when there's times where you're like, man, oh, it's, you know,

it's not there anymore.

Or it's not there.

You go like, bro, look at how lucky you were.

Yeah.

End of the day.

Like, stop.

You know, it's not that bad or whatever it is.

You know, like, look at how lucky you are.

You know?

And like I said, I always think about, you know, when I think about it at the end of the day, how many baseball players have ever walked on this earth?

I'm, you know, I got to play 10 years in the big leagues.

That's even a smaller percentage.

So it's like, man, how lucky.

So that moment, both those moments, is that the highest high coming back to the dugout, like being like, oh, I mean, a grand slam in the postseason.

That just has to be off the charts.

Like, you can't, you can't replicate that feeling.

I mean, from an individual standpoint, yes.

I mean, from that moment where it's like, yes, the whole world's on you, correct.

But winning two World Series.

Yeah, I mean, of course, higher and running in.

I mean, like, but yes, from an individual standpoint, yeah, there's nothing like it.

You're floating in.

Yeah, yeah.

I tell people all the time, it's like, I mean, like, they're like, how loud is it?

I was like, truthfully, man, it's actually, it's almost like quiet in your mind.

You know, and you're just...

Like,

it's almost like, yeah, you tell yourself as it happens.

Like, I mean, when I hit that Grand Slam, you know, and I jumped around the bases in Boston and I pounded my chest.

It's like

I literally went back to like my childhood days.

Yeah.

And you know, that's every childhood dream.

I've been playing in my backyard.

I go, like, bro, this shit is real, bro.

Like, this is, I'm jogging around this basis, bro.

Like, this is.

And so, like, that's what makes those moments that you said cool.

Like, yeah, you're right.

I mean, there's, there's no other greater feeling other than having your child be born and be healthy.

And, you know, but beyond that.

Or

being a Savannah banana and getting all the pulse.

Or getting whatever they want.

Yes.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

It does seem pretty incredible.

So you talked about the pile a second ago.

The pile at the end of World Series.

Were you at the bottom of the pile?

I was always at the end because I was in the outfield.

So, I got to, I got, and in fact, one of the you know, one of I call one of the most iconic, you know, I think Philly's pictures the pile that we have.

And I was lucky enough, I'm kind of airborne and I'm landing on it.

Yeah, so the guys at the bottom of the pile are getting it.

I feel like it's a great idea when you start the pile.

Oh, no, and then after like two seconds, I don't want to be under claustrophobic, so I'd panic like heck.

I guarantee that.

So, I'm glad I was always the you know, the outfielder taking my time on the way in.

That Phillies World Series, you won, what was it?

Was it three days of rain?

It was a day and a half.

A day and a half.

How much did that screw up?

Like, because you guys got to just be like, get us out there.

Like, we did, we were ready.

I mean, it was definitely something different to actually stop a game mid-game.

Right.

Especially at that moment.

Like, you know, but I mean, ultimately, there's no way we could have won.

Yeah.

You know, the way, and I would have felt bad winning a World Series.

Yeah.

It rained out four and a half or five and a half, you know, five inning game, which was legit at the time.

You know, but I, I, it was definitely, you wanted it so badly, right?

Because you felt it at your fingertips, you know, but it was almost to the point where it's like, okay, relax, like, let it happen, let it all, because again, just as fast as momentum shifts, you know, shit like that can shift it back in Nethergarden.

We'll go back the opposite direction.

Right.

But I mean, being at home helped, you know, being in the city of Philadelphia, knowing that, literally, I remember actually that when you talk about that moment, I remember walking out on what I call game five and a half, and the second we stepped out of dugout, it was 42,000 electric fans in Philadelphia.

So it was like, oh, it's back in you.

The energy was right back in you.

Right.

What was it like going back to Hawaii after winning a World Series?

Was it different?

Yeah, I mean,

there's not many of us that have, you know, have the opportunity to do that.

So yeah, it was definitely a big moment.

I think for me, I think it was cool because

it brought what I call a different

a different sport to

the forefront.

You know, not saying that baseball is massive back home, especially at the U-level, but there was never really one that someone that like said it and brought it you know i mean there were successful big leagues but not that world series you know like and especially in today's era like there's so much more and so much where kids can learn from someone like you know something like that where back in the day if they did win it it was you know where it really wasn't talked about there's not much to look at but to know that i can go back home and try what i call transcend where the game and the kids think and how they think of the game.

I mean, Lehiva Aloy, the kid that just won the Golden Spikes, you know, best college per year.

He grew from my little hometown.

If you had told me that 50 years ago or however many years ago, that there would be the best college baseball player that grew up in my little hometown in the little island of Maui, I would have told you, kick rocks, no chance.

Did

two Hawaiian guys on the team, right?

Arkansas?

Yeah.

It was the two brothers.

They're brothers.

Cojo and Vajivo.

Yeah.

And I've known them since they were this big.

But it's like when you think about that kind of stuff, when you think about, you know, like, here it is.

This is that moment.

Like, this kid's now a reality because someone like me showed them that they can do it.

Do you, do you feel like it's kind of not not mean but the flying hawaiians is like one of the best nicknames ever and no one else can have it now like you took that like we could have a hawaiian race code player who's no you can't that's such a great nickname

when did you first get that nickname so it was actually a new york mets game in new york uh i made a diving catch in left center and uh announcer said it uh I don't know if it was Ron Darling or Kira.

One of them said it, they're broad, the Mets broadcaster, and then it stuck.

it was just like that, yeah, and then it became the nickname.

Yeah, how long was it for you to hear that nickname after the game?

Because they're doing the TV broadcast, right?

I forget who brought it up.

I don't know, and I think so, I think they showed the replay of the, you know, they kept showing it because it was a great diving catch.

And then the more and more people showed the replay, the part of the broadcast, and you know, I guess he, I think he said it or something like that, like the flying Hawaiian makes this unbelievable catch, and then it was like, Yeah, there it is.

Yeah, I read an article that you, uh, your parents had to take you to the emergency room something like 20 times before you were eight?

Is that a fair estimate?

It was a fair estimate.

It was very close.

It was 10 times before the age of five.

Okay.

Gosh.

That's a lot.

What were you doing?

Just reckless abandon, man.

I was just, I fell off a bike.

You know,

tire spoke in my ear at the end of the, you know, end of the cul-de-sac, hit the curb, going full speed,

you know,

spoke in the ear.

Hanging out with my brother, dump on the bunk.

Oh, it's down there.

I jump off the top, hit the screw on the side of the bed.

I mean, got hit by a moving car, fell out of the moving car.

Whoa, that's that was a little bit older in life.

Those are two that are not.

You guys got hit by a moving car,

a lot of a moving car.

When we say moving, are we like technically moving?

No, this one was technically making.

So the fell in a lot of the car was with my auntie and uncle, my auntie Valerie, and the old car, you know, sat on the door side back then.

You could, you know, four deep across the front, three in the back, little island.

Cruising down the road in hometown, the door falls open.

Little Shane's on the side of where the the door falls open and he goes rolling out i mean he's going you know making a left turn not going 50 miles an hour but you know he's going 10 miles you know whatever so that was where i fell out of the car getting hit by the car was i was at my brother's with my brother who was my again one of my idols he was four and a half years older than me so They're all with their friends were bigger than a bike, BMX.

They all go to the friend's house.

I go and hang out with their brothers.

They're all watching the movie.

They're doing their thing.

I go out front, take the bike to my grandma's house, basically steal the bike from the brothers.

I go down.

I'm coming.

I'm trying to get back to where they are.

Two-lane road, cars parked on each side.

You know, a little 12-year-old pops his head out.

No car.

Old lady's coming by, 30 miles an hour, hits me.

She said, I go flying 20 yards.

You know, I get back up, but you know, again, I'm 12 years old, so everything's still.

She said, I literally was trying to run back to the bike and grab it because I was so scared.

Yeah.

Because I wasn't getting my ass beat by my brother, my dad, my parents, my grandpa, and everybody else.

And not only that, his friends, because now this bike's mangled.

I'm more in panic mode.

I think I was just in shock.

So, of course, this lady grabs me.

She's like, you can't go nowhere.

I just hit you on the car.

You know, I just hit you in my car.

Like, you got to stay here.

Of course, now adrenaline comes down.

Now it's like the pain starts kicking in and the crying starts happening, but I'm alive, first and foremost.

But the lady, I remember hearing her tell my parents, because I was what, 12, 13?

So I still remember hearing it.

She was, oh my god, I hit your son.

You know, I wasn't going fast, but I was going 30.

I mean, it was, you know, going up 30 strands.

Yeah, and he came out of nowhere.

You know, he was in between the cars.

He came out of nowhere.

And I hit him.

And he flew 20 yards in the air and he rolled.

He ran back to the bike.

She was trying to explain to my parents.

And I was like, and then, like I said, it was just, you know, God bless, I guess, at the end of it.

Does she know that she hit you?

Not back then.

She did not hit.

Now does she know?

No, she was an older lady.

She long passed before I became something.

When you look back on that kind of stuff.

But yes, how the hell.

Was I lucky, you know, to survive all.

But you just described two like kind of traumatic, like bad moments, like your worst moments and they're significantly cooler and more badass than anything I've ever done

like

I don't why I don't wish I got hit by a car but like to be wish either but I look back actually throughout you got hit by a car and fell out of a car oh because I'm here now you know and I look back on the story I wouldn't be a little different if it you know traumatized me in the end yeah so you you had you have a ADHD you when did when were you diagnosed with it because like back then yeah back then it wasn't something that was prevalent it was actually no and then that was so the other side to that story is at that age I was was basically, you can tell, aggro and just wild.

I had to leave a preschool at some point, you know, because of my, you know, ADHD.

And it was fine.

I mean, but these are all these moments when I look back on life.

It's like what I also realized that that's just part of it.

And I was born with it.

It wasn't like I went through the streets and oh, let me go do this.

And then it happens in my life.

So, yes, at a young age, it was always like, man, I was always in trouble because I was always hyper, you know, active and I was all over the place.

But then, you know, as I, you know, learned through life, like there was positives to a lot of that, you know, that good energy, that high energy stuff.

But as a kid, people don't know how to control it.

It sounds like they kept you really busy after that.

You played every sport.

They played every sport.

That was it.

They gave me out of my house.

And you're an Eagle Scout, right?

An Eagle Scout.

Yeah.

So that's like a lot of time that you're just spent doing

structured activities, right?

And that was what was important for me, was to have that in my life.

At what age do you think Shane Victorino could beat us up?

I'm thinking it's like seven.

Like, hearing me story, bro.

Like, no, but hearing how crazy you were.

Like, I was

like, yeah, I was crazy and I was tough, but to a degree of what I needed to be.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Like, and then I was also reckless around my friends.

I wanted to be the guy to show my friends, like, bro,

don't be fearless.

Like, you know, there might be not the right outcome, but go do it.

Except the ocean.

The ocean.

Well, no, that's a different thing.

You're kind of a wimp for that.

I'm a very much good wimp for that.

I'm actually way tough for you.

I'll be the first to say that.

When it comes to water, Andreeno ever tries to fight you, just run into the ocean.

It's like bees.

Stay close to the show.

I got you.

Go far out.

I'll leave you alone.

Oh, man.

All right.

So the, like playing baseball, the grind of baseball.

This might be a dumb question, but you're in the outfield.

Were there moments where you're like, almost like when you're driving on the highway and you forget that you've been driving?

Were there moments where you're like, oh, shit, I haven't been paying attention for a while here?

I tell you one of the greatest moments, my wife, we were in Seattle.

And she told me that night after a game, because Seattle, there are seagulls.

Yeah.

And so, you you know, I'm standing out in the middle of the grass.

All of a sudden, you see shadows.

What's going to, what's, what are you going to do?

You're going to look up, right?

If you're in the middle of a grass patch and all of a sudden there's a bunch of shadows over your head.

So literally,

she said, she goes, honey, I'm watching them pitch and you're literally in center field looking at the seagull above your head.

And I was like, well, babe, what am I supposed to do?

I mean, like, if you're out in the middle of a grass patch and all of a sudden you see shadows over your head, you're going to look up.

So yes, there are moments where there's things and objects that came into the play where, yes, I did find myself, I also did get thrown off from center field.

So, that's also one of the greatest things that I've ever done.

Wait, what did you do?

I got thrown out from center field.

My greatest moments.

Ed Rapawana was at home.

He called Ryan Howard on a strike, and then I went out to center field, and I watched from center field, and he didn't call a strike on their guy.

And I threw my hands up in there, and I was squaring at him, and he saw me.

And you got

to arguing volumes and strikes.

But unfortunately, I felt bad for him because it cost him the playoffs.

Oh, I mean, but that's you.

Yeah, I why is he the only guy to ever do that?

There's not many of us that got thrown off from center field.

Yeah, for sure.

So, going back to one of my greater baseball teams.

That's pretty awesome.

What about switch hitting?

When did you decide that you were going to hit from both sides?

22 years old.

That feels like that's pretty late.

Yeah, I feel like when you have a coach telling you, either go to home and go work in Hawaii or you want to become a switch hitter and you might become a big leaguer, then you tell me what you're going to do.

So, how much work did that take?

A lot.

I mean, it was what I told B.

Was just, again,

it was not easy

doing and hitting a baseball was the hardest thing to do like i said but to try to do it at 22 years old against the best in the world at a high level

i was willing to try it i was not trying to go home for the rest of my life and yeah have no outcome you know what i mean so but again i look back and saying having a coach that gave me that you know foresight like hey bro i think that if you do this and at that time i was in double a i was eighth on the depth chart you know big leaguers already there so like eight guys had to get hurt in the minor leagues That ain't gonna happen.

But he goes, if you become a switch hitter and you're willing to try it, there's nobody on this list.

Wow.

And I can honestly say that at the end of my career, out of all

nine of us, 10 of us that was in front of me,

I would say I was able to have the most successful career.

Did you have a,

after you got called up, did you have like a welcome to the big leagues?

Like, oh, fuck, this is different moment?

Oh, yeah.

Every fucking day for that first year.

It was like, bro, this is what,

I mean, it was just different.

They're, they're, they're they were bigger they were stronger they were just athletic they were the iq of the game you know i mean it it it was

i call it it became the chess mass versus the checker match like it's now a chess match it's not a checker you know like you gotta you gotta have that extra move and it was fun but i mean like i said the size of the guys you know just the way the game was played it was just it was a lot more fine too and it was cool but yeah every every i still tell my even till the day i was done in the big leagues there was always ah me moments.

Like, you know, playing with Mike Trout for the first time when he was healthy was like, you know, back in his day where he was MVP, was like, bro, is this real?

Yeah.

Are you, can you really be this much better than everybody else?

Like, so like, yeah, there was always those all me moments in baseball.

And I think that's what, and maybe I'm just kind of downplaying it, but it was cool to always, and that's why I loved and I respected the game so much.

It was like, you know, I played the way I do is because it was like, man, there was always those all-me moments.

As good as I thought I was or as great, it's like, man, there's this dude or that dude, you know, like there was always those pinch-me moments.

Yes.

Yeah.

What about the flip side to that?

Was there a moment where you got called up to the big leagues and you were like, I belong here.

Like, I feel like I can do this.

I mean, at a young age of 22, I thought I belong.

And then I got sent back to the Meyer Leagues.

But then I realized there was so much more for me to learn.

So mentally, yeah.

But

I always never try to think that I was there.

Yeah.

And I think that's what helped me play for so long, too, was to never think like that.

Yeah.

And you got to think every year, bro, there's a whole plethora of dudes that are just coming after you every single year.

I mean, I got to play parts of 13 years, 11 total, you know, like,

yeah.

I'm lucky, you know, like, man, because yeah, every year someone's trying to take your shit.

There's that next tranche of people, whether it be college, high school, you know, they're coming.

They want to get you.

Do you have your gold card on you?

I do.

Not on me.

No.

Have you used it?

Never.

Really?

Come on.

For people who don't know, no, I'm just kidding.

You have?

It is.

I have never used it, but you're right.

Will there be a moment I will?

Yeah, hopefully.

This is the coolest thing ever.

If you play, what is it, eight years?

Eight years or more.

Eight years or more in Major League Baseball, you get a gold card, and that gives you two seats to any game.

You just got to walk up, and they'll give you two seats.

Correct.

They should give you a platinum card.

You should get every MLB team and Savannah Bananas.

Yeah.

The only guy that has that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Savannah Bananas.

I want to buy an ownership in that damn thing.

I think they're in an empire.

So you just walk up to the box office with the MLB gold card and you're just like, hey, you're supposed to be able to handle them.

And they're supposed to give you the two best available seats.

That's such a cool rule.

Why have you not done that?

I guess it's like this is just again, nerd flex.

Full circle, this is like the UF World Series.

We don't, like,

I would, I feel like I would do it every game just to be like, it's like a free trick.

If you don't have it, you want it, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I want to do your job.

I want to sit there.

I want to be as famous, you know, and then talk on radio.

I don't know if you want to do your job.

I love it.

I listen to you outside, give it to somebody.

Who is, I got a couple last questions.

The nastiest pitcher you faced?

Who?

Every guy.

But who was

the filthiest?

Like, god damn it.

This shit is just different.

Steven Strasberg, when he first came to the big leagues and he made his debut against us.

And I remember telling myself, come on, bring this dude up to the big leagues.

I can't wait.

And I think he struck me out my first two bats, one on a 3-2 changeup and one on a 3-2 curveball.

And I remember walking back to Telugu going, Did you throw 100?

And you just threw me two off speed pitches in a 3-2 count we got no chance this is not cool like I mean so Steven Schrasberg when he first came up was

I mean

honestly all the hall of famers yeah those kind of guys but like when I look at that all me more and I was like bro like this dude is not real and his first you know however many years when he was healthy yeah it wasn't cool healthy yeah people people forget about him when it comes to that like upper echelon because the way the end of his career went and then he had obviously the setback in the middle of the career but then then he came back from that too.

But at his peak,

that first five years, yeah, I mean, it was a joke.

You're riding 100 miles an hour with, you know, you can throw everything else for strike.

It wasn't fun.

NL East's fan base you hate the most.

Come on, man.

The Mets.

Mets, God.

I mean, I just hate them, but I just,

I love.

I hate love.

I hate love because what I loved about them was the fact that I knew that there was going to be fights with Philly fans that night.

Yeah.

And then what I hate about them was the fact that they were obnoxious.

Yeah.

And they gave it to us when we came to town.

Yeah.

And that team's, you know, those years, man, those were some fun games because they were good.

Yeah.

Those teams in New York were very good.

And we had some good old fun battles, boy.

Yeah.

All right.

I have one last question.

It's a Roback question.

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Max.

Max is a Philly guy.

Got it, Max.

He is, you're one of his favorite players ever.

I think, was he the, yes, in the Little League World Series?

He was your, you're the player, right?

Yeah, I was in the regional, like the final game before you make it to the Little League World Series.

They go around and ask, who was your favorite player?

I have the video pull.

Oh, that's good.

I have a video pull.

That's awesome, man.

Let's play it for him.

No, that's it, man.

That's what you worked for all your life.

It's kind of funny when you say that, you know?

You look forward to that.

Like that kid's saying on TV, my favorite player is just Shannon.

He just broke Shane.

He just broke your sunglasses.

He just broke Shane's.

He stepped on his sunglasses.

Max, this couldn't have gone worse.

You stepped directly on his sunglasses, dude.

Oh, my God.

It's such a crunch.

What did you say?

I was doing this T on purpose.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Dude, that's so cool.

My name is Max Deleni.

I'm the first page he pictured.

Dude, that's so cool.

What a cool moment.

Yeah, what a great moment.

Isn't that awesome, Max?

And then now here you are, stepping on his sunglasses.

meeting your hero.

What a moment.

Do you think that 12-year-old Max Deleney would have thought, like, one day I'll step on his sunglasses and embarrass myself?

No, yeah, that went, that was the only way that was going to go, for sure.

For sure.

That was the only way that I was going to go.

So, what's your question, Max?

They talked about the Grand Slam against the Brewers already.

I wanted to ask you, how does it feel to have the second best up out of that inning?

What were you guys thinking when Brett Myers pulled that nine-pitch walk?

We were happy because we knew that that kind of

exhausted Cece a little bit.

I mean, Brett Myers was one of those guys, man.

You knew what you were getting, but you didn't know what you were getting.

You didn't know if you were getting the Brett Myers that was going to be straight or you didn't get

the guy that was going to throw out the guy's head for no reason.

So, I mean, him doing that at bat, I tell people all day long, that was a big reason because I think he gassed Cece.

I mean, and he, you know, he grind.

And not only that, you kept getting 40,000 plus on their feet as his bats went on.

Yeah, I mean, it just got louder and louder.

And I tell people any day, 45,000 to Philadelphia, look out.

You want to be on the good side.

And I was lucky enough to be on the good side.

Yeah.

You know, some of the craziest dude, Johnny Gomes, told me, he goes, man,

oh, man, that was, you know, because he was in Tampa at the time.

He goes, man, these fans are nuts.

When I got to Boston, I was like, I was glad they were on my side.

Yeah, Max, thank you.

Appreciate that.

Yeah.

Never beat your heroes.

You might destroy it.

Yeah, no, I'm sorry about the sunglasses.

We'll survive.

I think there's enough.

Another good Max story.

This is at the Super Bowl down in.

What town was that in, Max?

You remember that?

You remember that night?

What?

Arizona, right?

We go out for a night.

Max said he enjoyed himself until about 3:30 in the morning.

And at the party we were at, there was that dude, oh, it was the mentalist.

Oh, no, it was just a different

mentalist.

My bad.

Different mentalists was there.

And he was asking all of us, like, I think he asked Jake, who's your favorite baseball player of all time?

And Max, just from the back, pushes his way to the front line.

He goes, My favorite baseball player is Shane Victorino.

And so the guy had to completely change up his trick because now he's got to deal with drunk Max.

He's like, no, you got to do Shane Victorino.

You got to do Shane Victorino.

Yeah, when Jake was trying to do Derek Jeter, I thought that was too easy.

I thought it was a good thing.

Yeah, you make it a little different.

Oh, man.

Well, Shane, thank you so much.

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And now, here's Shane Bacon.

And now for something completely different.

Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, our good friend Shane Bacon, ahead of the, I still call it the British Open, the Open Championship.

You can see Shane, his YouTube, on YouTube, Golf on CBS.

He has the full preview, probably a little nerdier than what we are going to get into because we don't understand golf to the level that Shane does.

But Shane, good to have you on.

First question, how many journalists are losing their clubs going over to Northern Ireland this week?

This is my favorite time of year where it's just basically a bunch of guys going over, working the tournament.

Also playing some rounds, and then they lose their clubs and they complain about it all the time.

Yeah, I mean, Big Cat, I famously lost mine at St.

Andrews a few years ago and had the random person pick him up at Edinburgh and bring him to my hotel, a person that I did not know that just saw them kind of sitting in the corner after I'd lost him.

But yeah, I'd say about half.

I think about half the people lose their golf clubs on this trip every year.

And I still kind of think it might be the only reason we still do Twitter, I think, is just to complain to the airlines.

It's like maybe the main reason that we jump on it.

Yeah.

Probably shit coins too.

Yeah.

Complaining to airlines and then pumping shit shit coins.

That's keeping the economy afloat.

So what is what's going on with Royal Port Rush?

Because each of these courses for the Open Championship has their own identity.

They've got weird quirks about them.

Some of them have got what?

I just like the idea of like,

this is our golf analysis.

So

what's Port Rush's deal?

Yeah, what's his deal?

What's he up to?

Because

sometimes you go over there and it's like, oh, this is the course that's got this one 40-foot bumper

out of him.

Other courses, it's like, oh, we've got these things called burns that run along the fairway on 17-18 that'll fuck you up.

Oh, here's a par three with 75-mile-an-hour wind that goes right in your face.

Yeah, there's this one that's got a giant tree that grows, and we call it old boss man.

And you have to avoid old boss man at all times.

And back in 1970, who can forget when

Sleepy Joe Willicker got stuck in the leaves?

But there's always like one thing about each course when it comes to the open where it's like, this is what this course is known for.

So what's the deal at Royal Portsmouth?

So I would say that the thing it's probably known for, and it was highlighted in 2019, is internal out of bounds.

We don't get a lot of that in the States.

The course I grew up on in East Texas had internal out of bounds, and we just didn't abide by it.

We just hit the ball over the clubhouse, didn't care.

But it's kind of necessary around this golf course, especially at the first hole.

If you go back to 2019, you know, this was like the height of Ken Rory win a major, right?

2019, going to Northern Ireland.

He shot 61 on this golf golf course when he was 16 years old.

And the first hole on Thursday hits it out of bounds and made, I think he made it eight in this opening hole and shot 79.

So that's part of it.

It's probably the most penal in terms of driving.

It's a tough golf course to hit fairways.

You know, you think about St.

Andrews, these are 70-yardwise fairways, right?

It's almost impossible to miss the fairways around St.

Andrews.

This is a lot tighter.

I was talking to a player earlier today, and I said, how many drivers said maybe half, like maybe half the holes.

I'm going to hit driver.

That's something that probably doesn't play in the hands of a Bryson type, right?

Who wants to lean on the driver as much as possible.

But once you find the fairway, that's when it gets interesting.

It's a second-shot golf course, small greens for a Link-style golf course.

And if you start to hit a lot of greens, I mean, if you do what Shane Lowry did in 2019, he had 80% of the greens that week, you're going to have a real opportunity to contend.

And we talk so much about distance.

Like we love talking about Bryson bombing it and Rory bombing it.

Scotty hits it plenty far.

But when you dive into like golf stats, the big-time dudes, like the big names we all all know, are all near the top in terms of stroke gain approach, and that's all ironplay.

So like the Scotties, Morakowas, Victor Hovins, those types of players.

And so those will be the names to kind of focus on as Thursday gets going.

What in general, like this style of course, the Lynx course, what is, what do you need specifically in your game?

Is it a lot more touch?

Is it a lot more feel?

What is it that like the profile, because obviously

Scotty's going to be good anywhere.

There's some guys that are going to be good no matter what, but maybe guys that will have a a chance here that don't have a chance other courses.

What is it about their game?

Yeah, I think the interesting part about the open when you kind of look through it historically is you don't have to hit it super far.

I mean, the U.S.

Open was never, you have to bomb it, kind of golf course.

It's kind of turned into that a little bit, which I think is a bit of a bummer.

It just feels like you have to hit driver far to contend and win at a U.S.

Open.

The PGA is very much like that.

Augusta's like that as well.

So you think about the majors, right?

And they're all lean on the driver, hit it as far as possible.

That's not the case at Opens.

I mean, you go through the history of this championship specifically, especially kind of in the modern times, and you'll occasionally get a Darren Clark or a Shane Lowry, you know, somebody that's not going to be in the top 50% in terms of driving distance.

So I think that's the unique part about it.

Like patience is important.

I think that's one thing that's gotten to Scotty at this particular major and Bryson as well is just kind of being patient, understanding you're going to get some shitty breaks.

You're going to hit it in a pop bunker and not being able to stand in it.

Five's okay, move on.

I mean, you've got an opportunity on the next hole.

So I think as much as anything, it's being okay with getting on this bad side of a draw, having bad weather kind of pop up when somebody else played in perfect conditions and understanding that's kind of part of the game.

And I feel like this feels more four-day golf tournament than maybe some of the other ones we play.

So how much of a factor is going to be the roulette wheel of the weather?

Can we rely on anything with the weather at this tournament?

Like, is it always bad in the mornings?

Does it get worse in the afternoons?

So it doesn't look like it's going to be too nasty in terms of wind this week.

The forecast are saying, you know, maybe gust and 1520 on the weekend, which seems like a lot, but that's not that much in Northern Ireland.

And the first couple of days seem pretty benign in terms of wind conditions.

It's going to be wet, and that is the one thing.

It's going to be rainy.

It's going to be wet.

The one weird thing about pro golfers is they refuse to wear rain gear.

I've asked a lot of them about it, and they're just like, I don't like the way it feels.

And obviously they get free close and like, whatever, I'll just throw this sweater away on the back end.

But I mean, if it gets really gross, kind of the mutter type of players are the ones you kind of focus on.

I think about guys that grew up in this.

I think about guys that have played in opens in the past that feel like this.

If you go back to 2019, it was gross all four days of that open championship.

And obviously Lowry was there and Tommy Fleetwood contended as well.

You know, some other names I kind of like in these conditions, like I like a guy like Patrick Reed, you know, who can just kind of mud it up and doesn't mind if it gets nasty, almost prefers it.

Even a Jordan Speed type who's okay if it gets a little nasty and plays a little bit tougher in terms of the conditions.

So those are maybe the names I lean towards.

And then somebody like Scotty, and I keep going back to this, but like Scotty does not like it when it's quote unquote unfair.

I mean, that is the one weird thing about Scotty.

Like he wants a great shot rewarded, and that's just not what Link's golf's about.

And when you look at Scotty's record at the open versus all the other majors, this is the one he has not played great at.

So I think for Scotty, it's trying to lean a little bit more into that world versus, oh my God, I pulled the three-wood off.

Why is it not in the middle of the green?

Why is it in that pot bunker?

Yeah.

So what is it about Lynx golf that a great shot is not rewarded?

Is it just that much more difficult?

Yeah,

firm ground.

So it rolls a lot.

So, you know, you might land, you know, you watch pro golf.

You guys watch, you know, PJ Torque golf a decent amount.

You see a ball land on the front of the green.

It's probably going to stay on the green, right?

Here, it can land on the front of the green, roll, roll, roll, roll off the back of the green, go down into a pot bunker, and you might be against a lip where you can't get it out.

I mean, I think that's the unpredictability of kind of firm conditions.

And I think it's something like us nerdy golf people prefer.

Like we like seeing the ball roll.

I mean, PFT, I know you're a big root for the golf course guy.

And these are the golf courses I tend to root for the most because you have to accept what happens.

Like I caddied at St.

Andrews out of college for a few months.

I saw plenty of good golf shots that ended up in horrible spots, you know.

So, understanding that it's not always going to be perfect.

And, you know, it's, how many shots do you see?

A three-pointer that kind of rims in and out and doesn't go through, right?

It would look like a perfect shot, but it didn't go in, or a perfect pass, you know, over the top of a safety or a corner, and the receiver just drops it.

Like, those things happen in sports.

And I think at golf, it happens the most in these conditions versus most of the stuff we see the rest of the season.

I'm excited.

It might be a dumb question, but are there any golfers that are luckier, that are better at being lucky than others?

I mean, I'm sure there's some that would say they're probably luckier.

I think Jordan, for the first probably four or five years of his career, felt very lucky.

I mean, you think about the way he won the U.S.

Open, right?

It's like Dustin Johnson.

hits it on the green, has a putt for Eagle, three putts, makes par.

Jordan Speeth wins the U.S.

Open at Chambers Bay, right?

Like that felt a little lucky.

It kind of not handed an open, but you know, you got the benefit of somebody kind of struggling down the stretch.

I think Speet's one of those players that kind of feels lucky, but it always seems to be the guys that are like playing the best golf, right?

Like Scotty feels like he gets lucky a decent amount.

John Rahm feels like he gets lucky a decent amount, right?

I mean, when you hit great golf shots, you're always, always going to be rewarded on either one end or the back end.

So I always kind of lean maybe towards the better players over the maybe the guys that struggle a bit.

I get a quick headline grab for you.

Dig deep into the narratives of this open.

Is it now or never for Tommy Fleetwood?

God, it feels like it.

I mean,

the Travelers thing was such a bummer.

Like, I love rooting for Tommy Fleetwood.

He's my pick this week.

I pick him like seven times a year, and he never wins.

I kind of feel like Tommy Fleetwood's Gonzaga basketball is kind of my comment.

Yeah, never been to a Final Four.

Very good, very talented, number one seed a lot of the time.

Obviously has the talent on the floor, but doesn't get it done.

That's kind of who Tommy Fleetwood has become in professional golf.

He played great here in 2019, finished second.

He plays the open the best of all the majors, and he's one of the best iron players in the world.

So it's kind of like...

Do it now or you're never going to get it done.

This is the last time I'm picking him, though.

I can't pick him again.

Like I said, I pick him too many times already, and he never wins, but I'm leaning on the Gonzaga of golf once again here.

I have a question about the mentals of the golfers this week.

So we have Scotty Scheffler just gave a press conference that was very honest and very real, where he basically was like, I celebrate a win for about two seconds, and then I'm like, hey, what are we getting for dinner with my family?

And just talking about like he, this pursuit, this endless pursuit, and maybe the highs aren't really fully worth it.

And then you also have Rory talking about being honest about winning the Masters and feeling like there's kind of nothing left.

Are these guys okay?

Are we okay

as a golf community?

What's going on?

I mean, everybody's also firing their caddies like every two weeks now.

I don't know what's going on.

I was texting with a caddy this morning.

I'm like, this seems abnormal.

Does it feel abnormal to you guys?

I do think it is something unique to golf, right?

And I think this was a big struggle for Rory after the Masters is you win the Masters.

For For you, it's the biggest thing you've ever accomplished, right?

I mean, he admitted it.

He talked about it.

Obviously, you saw the emotions on the green.

We talk about it in the sports world for what, three days, four days?

And then it's like another golf tournament that, quote unquote, matters as much as any other big signature events outside the majors, right?

So I do think golf of all the events is the strangest one because you don't win a lot.

And when you do win, you get two or three days and the narrative changes.

And I mean, if I asked you guys, you guys pay attention to sports non-stop, right?

If I asked you guys who won the Open two years ago or four years ago or six years ago, you probably wouldn't know.

Shane Lowe.

And you've probably taken.

Hank knows.

Hank's got it.

Shane Lowry.

Shane Lowry, 2019.

Yeah, but Hank doesn't even know who's on the what's the live team you always ask him about.

Fourier's good question.

Yeah, come on, Shane.

Hey, let's go to Forest.

No, no, let's play this.

Let's play this question.

No, no, no, go.

Forest.

It's Dustin Johnson.

It's Harold Varner.

It's Patrick Reed.

And it's this guy

Peters.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Peters.

Alright, Peters.

Yeah, no, you're right, though.

We all all move on very quickly from a lot of this stuff.

But I do keep like a file in the back of my head of who has won a major.

Yeah,

he's actually more who hasn't won a major.

Yeah, that's what the file is.

Like, if you win a Super Bowl or NBA championship or all this stuff in other sports, you have like months to celebrate it, right?

Yeah.

And you have all this time to enjoy it and you get away from the game and all that stuff.

And golf just doesn't really allow you that.

I'd say maybe the only time these players really let loose is after winning a Ryder Cup because there's not a lot of golf on the back end of of that.

But major season is so compact now with that PGA move a few years ago that it just feels like, hey, win it and then ride back to it.

And I honestly think that was a big part of why Rory struggled at the PGA.

I mean, it's a golf course he should play well at.

But I do think sometimes he's like, did I get my flowers appropriately for what I just pulled off?

Because nobody thought I was going to win this thing ever.

And it came in down the stretch.

It didn't look like I was going to win it anyway.

And then I do get it done.

And it's like, what are you going to do the rest of the season versus what you just got done and accomplished in your career?

Well, you had an illegal driver.

We found out later.

So we can wipe that one away from worries.

That's right.

So you mentioned the caddies getting fired.

I know he's not playing in the open, but Joel Damon did part ways with Geno, his beloved Caddy, recurring guest on part of my take.

That one stung because I like a lot of other people.

We watched full swing on Netflix, and it felt like these were two just great friends that were just going to stick it out together.

Do you have any idea what happened there?

I think that Geno has been very honest with Joel about if this isn't working for you at any point, let me know.

And I think sometimes you need a new voice in your ear as a caddy.

I mean, that's something Phil and Bones talked about when they split up, right?

Is sometimes you have this messaging that you say to a player, and at some point it just stops.

Big cat, it's like when you yell at your kids, right?

And it just stops working, and you've kind of got to change your approach.

And it's like, do I need to be nicer?

Do I need to stop offering iPad or ice cream or whatever the case may be and try something a little bit different?

But the caddy, I will say, it does seem very easy right now.

And I'm not saying this about Joel or anybody, but it does seem super simple as a golfer right now to say, I need a change.

Let's make it the caddy.

And I think sometimes the grass isn't always greener.

And I know Gino's going to get another bag because he's a very good caddy.

I also know Gino's one of those dudes that if he wants to do TV at some point, he would be excellent.

at TV.

So maybe if the caddy thing doesn't work out, he could go down that route as well.

And I hope somebody I'm working with would hire him because he's a really, really good dude, thoughtful dude, and knows a ton about the game.

Yeah, the other day I did a countdown on my daughter, three, two, one, put your shoes on.

Like you have three seconds.

And we got past one and we just kind of stared at each other.

And I think she probably needs a new dad.

She realized what happens, nothing happens after you get to one.

Yeah.

I just, I don't know.

I'm currently in the same phase right now with my daughter, Big Cat.

I don't even know, like, I have no other pitches, man.

Like, I've tried all my pitches.

I've kind of, they're just hitting them out of the park, and I don't know what else to do.

I almost feel like I might read a parenting book, which I said I probably would never do, but I think I might lean that route.

If you have one to suggest, let me know.

I just throw out crazy shit that kind of confuses them.

Like, I'll be like, we'll be driving in the highway, and I should be like, I'm going to drop you off on the highway, and you're just going to have to walk home.

And they'll laugh and just probably not in the book.

Yeah, they'll be like, what do you mean?

Like, we'll just get hit by cars and die.

And then I'm like, all right, we have a good laugh and then we move on.

Have you thought about crazy shit?

My son asked me the other day if I died and mom died, could he live with dude perfect?

And I was like, yes, I don't think so.

Yes, but I don't know.

That's a yes.

Yeah.

Sure.

That's a yes.

Sounds great.

It's also a great question.

Yeah.

Have you tried double ice cream?

I know ice cream might not work, but what if you just said, we'll do double ice cream?

Oh, dude, we're on the popsicles right now.

Popsicles are killing it.

In the summer, they love the popsicles post-camp is like one of the things.

At least saves me about an hour of silence, which is nice.

Yep.

That's good.

Absolutely.

We got to check in with you on the update on the blueprint, the handshake agreement.

the framework that we have between the live and the pga we've been all over this so

How is the blueprint looking right now?

Have we made any updates to it?

Have terms been agreed upon?

Dust is settled on the blueprint.

They might abandon the project at some point.

It feels like the PGA tours kind of won this thing.

I feel like a year ago, we were all maybe thinking the other side of it.

But I mean, Liv's out there and it's...

producing players and I don't think any of the players care about it anymore.

But I don't feel like they're anywhere any closer than they were when they said it was pending 18 months ago, two years ago, whatever the case case may be.

It just feels like the blueprint is an idea of like the vacation home that you decided you can't afford, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It just got everyone off their back for a little bit.

Yeah.

I mean, you just throw words out in sport and then people go, oh, you know, it's like

we're searching for a new coach.

The process is out there and you, then, you know, you never hire a new coach.

We've got concepts of a plan of the two mergers.

Yeah.

Can

so, so give us your, if you had to pick, if I had one gun to head, gun to head.

Max, put your gun up.

Gun to head.

Max is leaving.

Shane, you have to give us five guys and one of them.

He's going to win.

He's going to point a gun at me.

Yep.

Zach point a gun.

Oh, he's got a gun.

No.

He's not doing that.

That's not a DNA.

Memes,

change the,

show Shane the guns that Zach has at him.

Right here.

Oh, look at that.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, my goodness.

Yeah, they're dope.

They're there.

Never thought he would come that way.

All right, I got names for you.

Five guys.

I got Tommy Fleetwood.

Okay.

Finished second, 2019 at Port Rush.

T4, T10, two of his last three starts at the open.

I like Tommy Fleetwood.

You guys are DraftKing guys, right?

Isn't that the deal?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was looking up some numbers on DraftKings.

Speed, I like a little bit as a sleeper.

Okay.

Plus 450 DraftKings to top 10, plus 900 to top five.

I like both those numbers.

I think in terms of the favorite, favorite guys up there, I like John Rahm a lot at the open.

Cameron Young, I think is a long shot.

I'm a fan of.

He's played great at the open in his very short career.

And then Harry Hall is a name I also like.

He's played some solid golf this year.

Maybe not to win, but I think somebody to finish in the top 10.

Plus, he's sponsored by the Hard Rock Cafe, which I think is the funniest golf sponsorship out there right now.

I love that.

There's the Hard Rock Cafe on the.

I didn't even know they still were existed.

There's an iconic one in Philadelphia.

Yeah.

The Commanders took it over.

We took it over before the game.

It was all over the place.

Oh, no way.

Was the food okay?

Like, is it still memorabile all over the place?

Like, how was it?

Well, I wasn't there for it.

It was just not.

It's like a Philly stronghold.

It's the most important restaurant in downtown Philadelphia.

And for the Commanders fans to take that over really said something.

So, yeah, I'm very, I'm intimately familiar with the

I'm going to go to a Chili's over,

but that's okay.

Oh, that's great.

Actually, Chili's.

Yeah, Hank, did you have a question?

I was just going to say, also, Cameron Young, MLB.

What do you mean?

Yeah.

He's got the MLB.

Like, that's probably the second most ridiculous sponsorship in God.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I don't get that, Hank.

I don't get it at all.

I just don't, like, what are they getting out of that?

I think his dad is just friends with Rob Manfred or something.

That's awesome.

Wait, what's the most ridiculous?

Well, he said

Hard Rock Cafe in Harry Hall is pretty ridiculous.

I do like the idea of a professional athlete being sponsored by a different sport.

That's kind of cool.

I would love to be sponsored by the NFL.

That's the most golf thing ever.

If you guys remember Payne Stewart, the late Payne Stewart was sponsored by the NFL for a while, and he would wear the team, local team's color outfit that week during the tournament, which was awesome.

That's right.

Go to Miami and have dolphin colors.

Yeah.

What about our good friend, our dear friend Chris Godderup just won the Scottish Open.

Confirmed AWL.

Confirmed AWL.

Is there any translation between winning the Scottish Open and then how you perform at the Open Championship?

I mean, I think, you know, I mean, obviously keep the train rolling.

But again, it's not the same golf course as the Renaissance.

I hate saying it that way, by the way.

It sounds ridiculous.

But that place, you just drive the hell out of the driver, just hit it as far as you can.

This place, again, not going to be that type of golf course, but he's playing solid.

So, I mean, I could see him going out there and kind of following it up with maybe a top 25 or top 10.

I don't think he's going to win.

What about big week for our guy, Brooks Kepka?

We have the takeies on Friday.

Oh, wow.

He haven't already called in or is he calling in?

We have not taped yet the Blake of the Year, but he is obviously in the running, hasn't won that.

What does he have a better chance of?

Winning this tournament or winning Blake of the Year?

Man, what a great question.

I would say

he played really well here in 2019, but that was kind of height of his power.

Played with JB Holmes on Sunday.

That kind of crushed his chances.

Like, JB shot a million.

I think J.B.

Holmes was T3 or T4 going to the final round and finished like 45th.

I shot like 86.

I would say probably Blake of the Year is probably where I'd lean.

Right now, that being said, nothing would make me happier than Kepka getting in contention.

Kepka and Speeth playing well in majors makes this stuff more fun.

Yeah, agreed.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Big time agree.

You just mentioned like he got screwed by his partner.

Is that a pretty common thing where if your partner, if he shoots like in the 80s, that you have a, most of the guy, most of the time, the other guys that are paired with him have a very hard time shooting low?

Depends on the personality.

I mean, Kepka's not, I would think he'd probably even admit this, not the most patient golfer out there.

He does not like slow play.

He doesn't like guys that take forever.

When you're shooting 86, you're taking forever.

J.B.

Holmes is also very slow.

So he was slow and shooting 100.

So that doesn't help the situation.

I think some guys just can kind of like check out, look away, look at the water, talk to their caddy, tell stories, things like that.

But I think it's kind of personality-driven if you can handle it or not.

Yeah.

All right, Shane, I got one last question.

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Like I said,

they have you have recaps of every round, right?

Golf on CBS on YouTube.

We do something with CBS on the YouTubes throughout the week, and then we'll do the HQ hits and all that good stuff as well.

So make sure you tune in because

you can see the analysis after every round.

Shane is the best in the biz when it comes to this stuff.

And speaking of,

you love golf.

You golf a lot, but you also have a job.

And I wanted to say thank you, Shane, because he actually had a tea time that he moved to come on this show today, something that Henry Lockwood would never do.

Yeah, I had a nine or 30.

What's the question?

Hold on, what's the question?

You're thinking or dead.

That was a robot question.

Robot question.

Shane, if you were playing Dungeons and Dragons with us, would you be complaining that it's going too long because you had a tea time?

No, I would be dialed on my job.

I'd be locked in and I'd be ready to roll.

But that's something that

I'd be doing.

I mean, like, shout out to my buddy Katropa and Joe Musso.

I was supposed to be playing a little golf with them this morning.

Big Cat texted me yesterday and I went, hey, listen, man, when the boys call, I got to do it.

And golf be damned.

But wait, what if it was on your birthday?

I mean, even more reason to do my job.

Nobody cares about my birthday.

I'm not turning 16 anymore.

Yeah.

Like every birthday I have from this point forward matters almost 0% to everybody involved.

How's your game right now?

You know, dude,

I kind of lost it a little bit earlier this year, and I just found something about two weeks ago.

So trending upwards, I'd say.

I shot a couple under the other day, which was nice, and my home club have not touched that number in a little bit.

And I got a big, a big tournament next week that I'm looking forward to.

So I'd say it's on the up and up.

How's Hank's game right now?

It's not bad.

He's playing a lot.

He missed an entire day of workout in Lake Tahoe.

He's not as long as he would like to be.

Yeah.

Dude, I watched the long drive video, PFT.

I mean, you were giving it everything you had.

And was your back that messed up?

My back's really messed up right now.

Yeah.

It sucks.

But great course, right?

Did you like the course we were playing on?

Yeah, it looked great.

Yeah.

We got more coming.

We played a skins match that's great course.

We talked to the guy that runs the course, and the last thing he said to us before we go out there, he goes, okay, don't get bit.

Yeah.

And then we're like, what?

Oh, bit by what?

Yeah.

He's like, coyotes and bears.

Okay.

I was caddying in Australia years ago for a friend of mine on the LPJ tour, and I am like, I'm not an arachnophobe, but I do not like spiders.

Like, get out of my face with that stuff.

Snakes, whatever.

I lived in Arizona for a long time.

Not a spider guy at all.

And I'm like, jet lag, get the bag out of the car.

I'm walking to the first tee to play a practice round, and I almost walk into a spider web with a spider that was probably...

seven inches long.

Like one of those ones that looks fake, like you'd put like outside of your house for Halloween.

And I told my friend Irene, I go, listen, don't don't take this the wrong way, but if you mishit a drive and it goes in the shit, I am not looking for it.

Like, you can have a spotter help you.

You can go look for it if you want, but I'm out.

Like, this is not part of my job.

I'm not getting bit by a spider.

No, thank you.

Yes.

Yeah.

I will never golf in Australia.

Everything in Australia will either kill you or buy you a beer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's really weird.

No, I said all in Australia.

None of it, New Zealand.

Don't understand that.

That's true.

That's a good point.

All right.

Well, Shane, you're the best.

Thank you.

Appreciate you as always.

And we'll talk soon.

Thanks, boys.

Okay, let's wrap up the show.

It is summertime.

We're golfing.

We're on the boat.

We're having some backyard barbecues.

It's the warm weather.

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So go try Mountain Dew Baja Blast right now and get excited for our Barstool camp coming up in a month.

Okay, guys on chicks, but first, Zach,

we have an official date.

Don't say time or place or anything, any details, but do we have an official date?

I won't dox the date, but we do have an official date.

Let's go.

We do.

All right.

We got date.

We have time, location, activity.

Don't say all of them.

We do have all of those things.

Today is not that day.

The day is coming soon.

So as long as she's still down for the date in the upcoming days, we will be going on a date.

Are you excited?

I'm looking forward to it very much so, PFT.

I'm excited for you.

And I think you're going to nail this.

What was the response like?

Was it happy?

Was it friendly?

In

the discourse back and forth,

I would say so.

It was

friendly, cordial.

Friendly Cordial.

Good baseline to build off of.

Friendly Cordial is a great combo.

I think it.

Hopefully it goes well.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're not doing Pilates on the first date.

Thankfully, we're not getting into a Pilates studio on the first date.

No.

That would be catastrophic DEF COM one, or the highest of DEF COMs.

Yeah.

I can't ever remember if it's five or one.

I think it's one.

Have you guys seen the contraptions you got to get into for Pilates?

I have, dude.

They're intimidating.

It's scary.

We're going to, we'll maybe...

If the first date goes well and there's a second date, then we will do a video of us trying out Pilates so that we can get you up to speed.

I did see there were quite a few Pilates studios trying to get you guys to do Pilates.

Oh, okay.

All right.

Well, we'll maybe do it.

All right, Hank, guys on checks.

Hey, PMT, another Rachel AWL here.

Just want to say that I've been listening for years, and Zach is one of the most genuine and well-intentioned people you guys have had on the show.

His genuine appreciation and excitement for everything he gets to do makes me so happy.

My question is, Zach, if you could plan your ideal first date, what would it be?

Don't dox your date.

Don't dox your date.

I won't dox your date.

Ideal first date,

I think drinks is a safe call.

I also think maybe like

an activity, but not too strenuous.

Like intermediate strength.

No, no, no, no.

Beginner strenuous.

Beginner, yeah, yeah.

Maybe a walk.

A light walk.

A walk would be too bad.

Wine walk.

Yeah, a little wine action.

Yeah.

A walk would, I feel like a walk is good because you can, like, you could do a walk and then if it's going well, be like, let's go grab a drink.

It's kind of a lead-in.

You have some checkpoints along the way.

Yeah.

And I feel like a walk also hits that

every girl's brain being in a rom-com where it's like, hey, let's walk the city.

If it's in fall, love, yeah.

Yeah, nice autumn walk.

I also like how Zach's brain works in terms of video games, like hitting the checkpoints along the way.

So if you screw something up, you just go back to the bench.

Yes.

I could see the similarities there.

Yes, we'd have to go back to the save point at that point.

Yeah,

okay.

Hey, guys,

hey, I was recently on my honeymoon with my husband, and I found out he body washes before he washes his hair.

I've always done the opposite, and I shampoo and condition my hair before I body wash.

Am I the weird one, or is he?

I think it just comes down to guys versus girls, more specifically, long hair versus not having long hair.

This is also a good Mount Rushmore don't care about what order you wash in.

I also definitely do not have a consistent order.

At all.

Because guys, especially guys with short hair, we just take the body wash and then we just put that all over our body.

Yeah, why'd you say that?

Because I used to have short hair.

Oh.

So it's like you just take the all-in-one.

I'm stealing Valor.

What's that we you can use?

Yeah, well, for like 30 years.

Yeah, I don't know what order I do it in.

I don't think it matters.

I do body wash and then wash.

I think I did.

I body wash first.

I think you're supposed to do.

You're supposed to.

You're supposed to shit.

You're supposed to shit.

Oh.

Then get in the shower.

I can't tell you the last time that I've taken a shower without at least trying to shit.

Yes, of course.

And I sit on the toilet for like 20 minutes.

Yeah.

Whatever.

But I'm normally body wash before wash your hair, but I think you're supposed to let the conditioner stay in your hair forever.

I found out when I was like 26 that you were only supposed to wash your hair like once or twice a week.

Yeah.

I did it every day.

I still do it every day.

I wonder, do you think, think, how many women do you think realize that we do not take long showers as men?

We're just shitting for the first 20 minutes of the shower.

Because I turn the shower on.

And I know it's kind of wasting, but I also don't want anyone to hear me shitting.

You're a self-conscious shitter.

Well, I mean, I've learned that a bit.

I do some damage, dude.

Yeah.

It's not pretty.

Yeah.

Bag it up.

Yeah, listen, I had a couple tweets about that.

Probably overshared, but I also stand by what I did.

And I'll have to do it again.

Done it before, did it in Tahoe, gonna do it again.

If you get stuck in a situation where you have a clogged toilet, just find a little plastic bag, put your hand in it, do it.

Do they make an all-in-one body wash that also has like you can brush your teeth with it, like all in one, and drink, and drink, yeah, yeah.

You got the shampoo, the conditioner, the body wash, the toothpaste, the mouth wash, lube to jerk off, lube to jack off, deodorant, it's just body wash.

No, body wash can dry, it can dry you out, Hank

jack off with body body wash?

It stings.

Dry you right out.

Dr.

Brauner's just have a couple 18-in-1 options.

18-in-1?

I love that.

You can do full body teeth.

It's got a meal in there.

It's got protein.

I don't know the calorie stats on it, but maybe.

It's pre- and post-workout.

Why not?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Douche.

Douche your butt.

Hi, PMT boys.

First of all, speaking for the lady AWLs, we're very offended Max wouldn't consider attending a bachelorette party for his punishment.

Yeah, it was disgusting.

Great.

Secondly, as someone who is striking out on the dating apps, would you consider helping me with the new opening line to use on guys to really grab their attention?

Tits only get you so far.

Wait.

An opening line?

No, tits get you everywhere.

What?

I don't know.

I mean, his tits are there.

He's just the tits.

I have to say hi.

Yeah.

Do you like my tits?

Hi.

That's actually a really good opening line because then the guy will just say yes.

Uh-huh.

And then you're off and running.

Hey, I'm a woman.

Hey.

How are you?

That should do the trick.

Hey, I have tits.

I don't know if you saw.

Scroll up.

Yeah, I don't know what an opening line would look like for a woman.

Just notice him doing anything and be like, wow, you look really strong.

Yeah, or oh, no, maybe just

hit him with, yeah, like parlay for tonight, question mark.

Yeah.

That will reel them in right there.

You want to go to the MLS game with me?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because, like, if a girl asks you to, she means business.

I don't think that would work.

She's not doing it for fun.

Biggest sport in the world.

Yeah.

It is.

Good point, Hank.

Hey, PMT Crew, Fontime, AWL here with some first date advice for a new Zach wrap.

On the first date, you go, absolutely need flowers.

Go colorful, not just roses.

And pick somewhere nice, but not too nice because you can't set the bar too high.

My vote would be a chilies, so you can both get a trip dip and $1 marks.

The girls love chilies.

Chili's is definitely a place that girls get horny at.

It's very romantic.

For sure.

Flowers and chilies?

Is that what we're talking about?

Flowers and chilies.

Yeah, flowers and chilies.

I think that does play.

Have you thought about the flowers move, Zach?

I haven't thought about that.

I do respect the Chilies move, though.

Mm-hmm.

You might have to get to a Chili's.

Pivot?

No.

I can't pivot.

Don't change the location.

Yeah, yeah.

don't change the location.

Flowers, I feel like, is a try-hard move.

It's kind of heavy, first eight.

It's a very heavy move.

I think flowers is a try-hard move just period.

Anniversary, birthday.

Yeah, I do it, but I don't like it.

In conjunction with other things, yeah.

I'm a random flower guy.

Oh, wow.

Try hard.

No.

That raises a lot of questions, though, Max.

Try hard.

No.

Surprise flowers.

Surprise flowers can get you into a situation where, like, what'd you do wrong?

Yes.

Flowers are the easiest thing to do, though.

Like, you're just at the grocery store.

and you see like $10 and it's like, oh, yeah,

why wouldn't I just buy these for $10?

I did something.

I used to have a guy.

There was a guy that on my commute home in Massachusetts would be on the street selling them.

And sometimes.

Do you buy them for yourself?

No.

Yeah, the I fucked up flowers.

Yeah.

Doesn't Ernie Johnson, every time he goes to the grocery store, he gets a dozen roses for his wife?

That's a try-hard move.

And then a dozen roses for a stranger?

Yeah.

To just give it to him?

There's flowers, yeah.

That kind of rocks, actually.

Yeah.

Doing the stranger thing.

Ernie's nice.

Numbers.

Three.

Three.

That was Hank.

That was Hank.

99.

Oh,

memes.

Memes.

Oh, look at that shirt, Pug.

Pug, you're untapped?

Did they send that?

Get your own number, bitch.

I just did, bitch.

Did Untapped send that?

Fuck yes.

I was.

Yeah, Untap took it up.

Pug.

I love watching Pug tap in.

There's something about it.

Chill week with the boys.

Yeah, watching the replies.

That was Chill Week sipping.

Watching Chippey.

Chill week sipping.

He deleted the G at the end of sipping.

Watching the replies come in.

Nice.

Good beer.

Toast.

I'll go six.

I'm going to go 66.

I'm going to go 21.

99 has been cold.

Yeah.

One pug.

11.

16.

21.

PFT already took it.

21?

Yeah.

21.

On Chargers Jersey Day?

Yeah.

On Chargers Jersey Day, nonetheless.

85.

Okay.

Or no, 17.

Sorry.

I didn't know it was Chargers Jersey Day.

I wouldn't have done it.

We got three.

Hanker.

99 has been cold.

Come on, three.

It's dude.

Oh,

89.

Wow.

Dirty dog.

You guys are going to have to start picking 99.

Love you guys.

That's part.