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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have a two-fer for the people. We have JJ Spawn fresh off his U.S.
Open win, and then our good friend George Kittle from the San Francisco 49ers getting ready for TEU.

Speaker 1 We have a Stanley Cup champion. We're going to talk about the Panthers winning the cup back-to-back years.

Speaker 1 The Thunder are also one win away from the NBA Finals.

Speaker 1 We have some inner podcast beef to squash after Max and Hank duked it out in the three-on-three BBA.

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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, June 18th, and the Florida Panthers are back-to-back Stanley Cup champions in incredible

Speaker 1 last two games of the series where they absolutely dominated the Oilers

Speaker 1 and just an incredible way to fit. They're the best team.
There's not much. I mean, if you had to pick a second best team, PFT, it's probably the Toronto Maple Leafs because they took them to seven.

Speaker 1 So it was

Speaker 1 like an exciting Stanley Cup final for the first four games. And then the Panthers are like, oh, yeah, we're the best team.
We're about to win back-to-back titles. And congrats to them.

Speaker 3 So I was about to start the show by congratulating the Toronto Maple Leafs on being better than the Edmonton Oilers. Like, congrats to Biz.
Biz was actually kind of right in his argument against Witt.

Speaker 3 It stinks for Oilers fans, but you got to put in your face. It's not like this was a close game.
It's not like the end of the series closed out where you thought that you had a chance.

Speaker 3 This was ass kicking. They just kicked their asses.
And then Reinhardt, he had four goals tonight.

Speaker 1 Four goals tonight. Sam Reinhart

Speaker 1 was, yeah,

Speaker 1 he was awesome. Sam Bennett, the other Sam, won the ConSmythe with 15 goals in the postseason, led the whole postseason, 22 points.
But yeah, Sam Reinhardt four goals. But you're right.

Speaker 1 Like, this was not, these last two games were so clear that the Florida Panthers were the better team. And Bob, we said it when our previews with Yans, with Witt.

Speaker 1 We're like, Bob's going to get hot, and he's going to get hot, and it's going to be lights out for the Panthers. And that's exactly what he did in these last two games.

Speaker 1 Tonight, I think he saw 29 shots, saved 28 of them.

Speaker 1 He's just, he is that dude in closeout games.

Speaker 3 You can't go back to Skinner if you're the Oilers. We told you that a couple nights ago.
You cannot go back to him. I do feel bad for Oilers.
I do. I feel bad for the entire country of Canada.
1993.

Speaker 3 It felt like this might be Canada's year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The

Speaker 1 memes, I think, just tweeted.

Speaker 1 An American team has won the CFL Gray Cup in more recent time than a Canadian team has won the Stanley Stanley Cup. So the Baltimore Stallions, I believe, in 1995 won the Great Cup.

Speaker 1 I think they were only in the league for a year or two,

Speaker 1 and it's been a shorter distance in time than the Canadian teams winning a Stanley Cup.

Speaker 1 It's tough.

Speaker 1 I feel bad for the Oilers. I feel bad.
Well,

Speaker 1 Conor McDavid can't win the big one.

Speaker 3 We're going to just jump into it.

Speaker 1 I don't know what to say. I feel bad for him.
He's an incredible player, but as of right now, I'm just going on the facts that I see.

Speaker 3 has not won the big one uh okay so my my plan was to just butter up canada as a country real quick okay and just be like we feel bad for you this was a great team ultimately it was a combination of ryan whitney and your goaltending that let you down it's not your fault canada but also maybe your golden boy is looking like fool's gold yeah i mean it's not his fault we're we're being a little tongue-in-cheek but obviously this will be the the the prevailing story of can he win the big one because he is the best player in the league and he hasn't won the big one.

Speaker 1 And for back-to-back years, the Florida Panthers, that's got to be the hardest part too, PFD. If you're an Edmonton Oilers fan, Connor McDavid's the best player in the league.

Speaker 1 You have all this tradition. You have the Stanley Cup years with Gretzky and Messier, and then you have a team in Florida who is just dominant.

Speaker 1 Like the Florida Panthers deserve all the credit for putting together an absolute beast of a team. And the way they've won back-to-back Stanley Cups,

Speaker 1 they're awesome.

Speaker 3 Not just Florida, like the dirtiest part of Florida. Yeah.
Like the farthest part away from you part of Florida, where the team is located outside the city.

Speaker 3 They basically built a town around a barn, and they're like, we hope that we can get people to come out here. And then they built a good team.
So they do have a fan base now, yes.

Speaker 3 But to lose to Miami, that... That stinks.
That stinks real bad. But yeah, they were a dominant team.

Speaker 3 And I think anybody that watched these playoffs, you can't say anything besides the fact that that was the best team.

Speaker 1 They They all deserve it. Yeah,

Speaker 1 so they

Speaker 1 set a Stanley Cup final record, surpassing the 1987 Oilers with most minutes in a Stanley Cup final leading.

Speaker 1 So they led for 255 minutes in the Stanley Cup final because it was, you know, the Oilers wins. You had that crazy game where they score late and then overtime wins.

Speaker 1 And so it's just the Panthers were the better team.

Speaker 1 They're a built wagon. They had three guys score five-plus goals in the Stanley Cup final,

Speaker 1 which they're the only second team in the NHL history to do that. Reinhardt had seven, Marchawn had six, Sam Bennett had five.
They're awesome.

Speaker 1 And it's got to hurt the hockey-loving Canadians to be like this team. And I know, obviously, there's a lot of Canadians on Brad Marchawn from Canada, but still, it's got to hurt.

Speaker 3 I would blame, I think there's three people you can blame if you're trying to figure out how to cope.

Speaker 3 Number one is just the entire state of Florida for having no state income tax. So you can go to that one.
You can blame the Boston Bruins.

Speaker 3 And then you can blame the city of Philadelphia for letting Bob go down there.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 3 you've got some scapegoats.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you've got some scapegoats for sure. Absolutely.
And

Speaker 1 you can blame Toronto for not taking care of the Panthers.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
That's actually a great one that you can do. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think that McDavid is, he's got to win one eventually, but we have no choice but to ask if if he's incapable of winning the big one now. Right.
We didn't want to.

Speaker 3 We didn't want to have this conversation.

Speaker 1 And I'm not trying to do insult stats, but he's the only captain who's lost in back-to-back cup finals in the last 50 years.

Speaker 1 It's hard to get there twice. It's hard to get there twice.
It's hard to get there twice. I don't want to do these.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about how awesome the Panthers are.

Speaker 3 Okay, let's talk about Marchand and how

Speaker 3 I don't think I realized how great he was until these playoffs, which sounds stupid because obviously he's had a great career for Boston.

Speaker 3 But something about seeing a guy who's been really, really good for a long time do the exact same stuff that he's always done, just in a different uniform, makes it mean like a little bit more.

Speaker 3 Like he stands out a little bit more to me. Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's 37 years old and you're like, oh, what are you going to get from him? Is he at the tail end?

Speaker 1 And then, oh, yeah, you're going to get one of the best players on the ice for the entire Stanley Cup final and an absolute beast who just has a knack for the big moment. And you're right.

Speaker 1 Like, it was, he, he, I think a lot of people were like, he's incredible, but, like, this takes him another level to win it with another team and do it in such an impressive fashion where it's like he had his fingerprints all over this series.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 On the third line, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, credit to Paul Maurice, very good coach, Florida Panthers.

Speaker 1 I believe this, I think the status he coached for 25 years in the NHL without winning anything and now has won back-to-back.

Speaker 1 Pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 Be a little patient. Patience works.

Speaker 1 Should we be upset with evander kane for skipping the handshake line oh i'm i'm gonna say yes that's bullshit how can you do that uh i i get it at the end of the sale and cup finals that's no that's exactly when you need to do the same the the handshake line yeah

Speaker 1 i get it you know that you know that

Speaker 1 but imagine it's you yeah no i would i'd be so pissed i would just probably say fuck you under my breath to everyone in the handshake line yeah i'd leave i'd just walk out of the arena get into my car immediately i'd pretend my i'd pretend my right hand was broken and have to do the sad paw, like people having to reach across and make it really awkward for everyone.

Speaker 1 She'd be like, well, I did the handshake line. What do you want from me?

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's got no guts. That's an upper body injury from you.

Speaker 3 That's why me and you aren't in the Stanley Cup finals because we wouldn't do the handshake line. That's true.

Speaker 1 We should also say, and we're not looking for credit, but

Speaker 1 we would have gone to game seven at Edmonton with Ryan Whitney. So we basically,

Speaker 1 Whitney, I believe if we're doing a score counter, he now owes us something.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So a little peek behind the curtain.

Speaker 3 I'm out of studio right now because I'm at a lake house in Michigan that I planned on doing this like five months ago. Got this lake house for the week into the weekend.

Speaker 3 By the way, Michigan, awesome state, a lot of weed dispensaries, kind of crazy.

Speaker 3 And I said, I'm not going to be here this weekend. I canceled my lease, the week-long lease on the lake house because I was like, I'm going to go to Edmonton this weekend.

Speaker 3 And then I don't know what I'm going to do tomorrow because

Speaker 3 I'm out of this house. I'm self-evicted.
So, I mean, credit to us for saying, hey, Witt, you've done a lot for this program. We're willing to put our nuts on the line for you.

Speaker 3 But unfortunately, it just can't happen.

Speaker 1 I had a phone call with Ryan Whitney this morning, planning it out, being like, hey, if Edmonton wins this game tonight, we got to act quick. We got to get this flight.
We got to get it.

Speaker 1 Give me the names right now. We got to be ready to go.
It was being planned. And again,

Speaker 1 i do think he owes us something now i don't know what we're gonna have to figure it out hank he owes us something don't you agree because you would have gone yeah absolutely for sure yeah 100 max you would have gone right max is actually like really pumped to go really pumped i think whitney should have to dye his hair

Speaker 1 yeah it would it does feel good to

Speaker 1 it would have been cool to go to like i'm not complaining about having a chance to go to a game seven it would have been pretty sick but in terms of like all-time cancellation of like, hey, you don't have to go to Edmonton, it felt good.

Speaker 1 It felt really good. I'll be honest.
It felt really, really good.

Speaker 3 Not me. I'm upset.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I would love to go up.

Speaker 1 You're so upset from your lake house in Michigan. It's a bummer.

Speaker 3 Hey, Hank, fun fact about Michigan. I'm learning all sorts of stuff about Michigan.
You know, Michigan has the most lighthouses of any state in the United States.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 3 Yeah, pretty cool. There's one right down the street.
I'll take a picture of it.

Speaker 3 You know what the state bird of Michigan is?

Speaker 3 The mosquito.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Not even a bird.

Speaker 3 No, it's a joke that every state says about their own state. Oh,

Speaker 1 I'm watching right now. They're taking a picture with Stanley.
God damn it, the Stanley Cup winning that. It's got to be the best feeling in the world.

Speaker 1 Just being like, we're just going to get so fucked up with the boys. They do.
Marsh is holding up the two, buddy. You weren't there last year.
Stanley Cup. I will say this about the Stanley Cup.

Speaker 1 It does feel like the number one, the team parties for as long as possible together. Like, I think a lot of the other sports, the team kind of fractures

Speaker 1 pretty quickly. This one, it's like you'll just see all of the Panthers partying for the next four days, all of them together.

Speaker 3 And sometimes longer than that. That's what makes it so impressive that you're a repeat champion is you win the Stanley Cup and you go on a bender for about a month and a half.

Speaker 3 You're just getting fucked up left and right like you're a freshman in college.

Speaker 3 And then you go back and after a summer of utter utter debauchery you're able to somehow get back to that elite level that might i think that might be the hardest sport to repeat in yeah oh by the way here we go breaking moves

Speaker 1 uh matthew kachuk says he tore the abductor off the bone and was dealing with a hernia on the same side of his body wasn't sure if he'd be able to play to start these playoffs kachuk state says grinding through all that makes the stanley cup more rewarding i love i love the hockey injuries after because they they are like, it's kind of the opposite of LeBron getting bounced and being like, I would have been out three to five weeks.

Speaker 1 Like, these guys are playing with horrific injuries, and they don't say a word. And then after they do, they get a microphone in their face.

Speaker 1 They're like, yeah, actually, my leg's been broken for like four months,

Speaker 1 but it's the cup, dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Thank God the series is over because I get to go to the hospital.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to check myself.

Speaker 3 But when you say the way that you phrase his injury, though, it sounds kind of delicious, low-key. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Say it again.

Speaker 1 He tore the abductor off the bone. That is the best.
Oh,

Speaker 3 that sounds tasty.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 there'll be a Panther Oiler who'll be like, yeah, my doctor told me if it goes seven, I'll probably die, but it's the cup.

Speaker 3 Got to go out there for the boys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. One other thing before we kick it to ourselves in studio for the rest of the show.
I'm starting to think that

Speaker 1 some of the women in the WNBA don't like Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
That's all I got.

Speaker 3 Did she get fish hooked tonight, or was it just a slap in the face? Did she get bitch slashed?

Speaker 1 She got like rabbit punched and then and then like chest bumped.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think they don't like her. I don't know.
I'm just getting that vibe. Maybe we got to wait and see, but I'm starting to think they don't like her.

Speaker 3 When all this shit started to go down last year, I thought that this is actually a great opportunity for somebody that's like into the bench player on the fever,

Speaker 3 become the Caitlin Clark defender. Yeah.
Forget about working on your game. Just get in the gym.

Speaker 3 Just start learning boxing, jiu-jitsu, Muay Thai, thai whatever and then just be an enforcer be the charles oakley there's an opening right now for a charles oakley to caitlin clark's michael jordan that just goes out there and beats the shit out of girls that try to go at caitlyn yeah just be be friend for life yeah be your best friend for life and and eat a couple technicals every now and again get kicked out a few games not only will it be good for your just career like on the roster but i mean there'll be marketing opportunities too yeah you're just like you'll be known as her bodyguard yeah that's your it's a great point Um, oh, I totally forgot.

Speaker 1 Congrats, Zach. Are you a Panthers fan?

Speaker 3 It would be, it would be stolen valor to say Panthers fan specifically, but state of Florida, love to see them bring the Stanley Cup home.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Love that.
Coming home. Congrats to the state of Florida.
The state of Florida has won four out of the last five cups. Is that not right? I believe so.

Speaker 3 They could be way up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Lightning.
What is it? It's two Lightning, two Panthers, and then an Avalanche mixed in. Is that right, memes? Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 All in the South. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's right. Yeah.
All right. So congrats.
State of hockey. Congrats to Brooks.
Congrats to Brooks. Yeah, he was there.
He was looking like he was having fun. Yeah.
Great night. And Marlin's man.

Speaker 1 Congrats to Marlins, man.

Speaker 3 I'm not going to say that.

Speaker 1 I will. He just kept on texting me throughout the game being like, wish you were here.
What is this? Oh, there's video. Play is crazy loud.
Wish you were here.

Speaker 1 And it's just a picture of him with a chick and then a picture of him with the Panther mascot. So, didn't make any inappropriate comments about your mom.

Speaker 3 Is the uh, what's the picture of the day? The picture contest winner.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Do you should I play the video he sent? This is this is oh,

Speaker 1 that's just a live.

Speaker 1 All right, wait, hold on. Let me let me replay this.
If anyone's wondering, uh, if it was loud at the at the at the uh game tonight to win the Stanley Cup uh trophy,

Speaker 1 here's uh live our live reporter, Marlin's man.

Speaker 1 Hear that, PFT?

Speaker 3 It sounds pretty loud.

Speaker 1 It's really loud. Let me just go and see if he maybe says something at the end.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 That is loud. That was loud.
Confirmed, loud. Confirmed.
Confirmed. Confirm loud.
Loud born. Okay.
Let's kick it to ourselves. We've got a lot of great show.
Hank versus Max.

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Back in studio altogether.

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Speaker 1 Okay, boys, the Oklahoma City Thunder are one win away from the NBA title, and that was the J-Dub game. Yeah.
Jalen Williams

Speaker 1 was 40. Yeah, 40 points.

Speaker 1 Second most in Thunder history in the finals. I think it was Russell Westbrook had 43 back in the 2010 finals.

Speaker 1 That was an awesome game from him. And that was exactly like, this is why the Thunder are so scary.
SGA is the MVP. He's 26 years old.
Chet is 23 years old. J-Dub is 24 years old.

Speaker 1 And he's had moments in these playoffs where it's like one great game, one game where he kind of isn't there. And that's the progression of a young player.

Speaker 1 But on Monday night, he was there and he was phenomenal.

Speaker 3 Is that the most points ever scored by a guy that was drafted third in the same year by his own team? Like, he was their third pick when they took him. That's a good question.

Speaker 3 In the NBA Finals, I think it might be it was a great game on his part. SGA also wasn't bad.

Speaker 1 No, SGA was great, but it was

Speaker 1 JW show.

Speaker 3 So I think maybe we should think about having the conversation. Batman Robin.
Yeah. Last night he was Batman.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it was

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 obviously, this is the NBA Finals. You have to win these games.
The Pacers, there's no moral victories.

Speaker 1 I was kind of not shocked, but like the way they fought, I thought the game was over at halftime. Tyrese Halliburton's hurt.
He had zero field goals made. Stephen A.

Speaker 1 Smith said he was happy he was hurt.

Speaker 1 He corrected it a little. He's like, I'm happy, I know that he's hurt because he's sucking tonight.

Speaker 3 I think Stephen A. Smith was happy he was hurt so that he could play solitaire instead of having to watch the game.

Speaker 1 Yes, but it was

Speaker 1 the Pacers were right there. It was that sequence.
I think it was like nine minutes left. It was 95-93.

Speaker 1 And the Thunder got an offensive rebound. J-Dub hit a three.
And then I believe it it was Casey Wallace got a steal and a dunk, and it was like, oh, now it's back to a seven-point game.

Speaker 1 And outside of, I mean, Tyrese Halliburton was bad.

Speaker 1 He's injured. Remember, he had a leg thing that Shams reported two games ago.
So it seems like he might have aggravated the leg thing.

Speaker 1 I feel like Rick Carlisle, I don't know. Maybe this is just one of those situations where he obviously knows his players better than anyone else, but TJ McConnell was a problem.

Speaker 1 He could not, the Thunder did not know what to do with with him, and

Speaker 1 he should have kept with him. The question that I have for everyone else is, is TJ McConnell one of those guys that you can't play him that much because all he does is go 100% all the time?

Speaker 3 I think a fair question would be: Should we play TJ McConnell all the time? Because he is great at surprising you with how good he is. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So if he's playing all the time, can you even be surprised that he's still cooking? The team was, the Basers were definitely better when T.J. McConnell was in last night.

Speaker 3 And every time he got close, it was because TJ McConnell was out there doing his Indiana Deli thing where he kind of does the well-placed spin moves, gets away from guys, plays extremely hard.

Speaker 3 You got to ask the question. Should Carlisle be yanking guys?

Speaker 3 I think he's got to start yanking guys. I think that, like, Halliburton, yes, he is your best player.
The offense goes through him, and when it goes through him,

Speaker 3 the offense is incredible to watch. But when he's limited, then it becomes now you rely on guys who don't create their own shots.
You rely on them having to create their own shots more.

Speaker 3 It doesn't work out as well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you need TJ McConnell. And I just don't,

Speaker 1 I think TJ McConnell is one of those guys that he just, you can't play him 35 minutes because then you lose the TJ McConnell.

Speaker 1 Because every single time TJ McConnell, he'll sprint down the court with the ball, go into the lane, either shoot or make a decision to get someone else a shot.

Speaker 1 They score, and then he's sprinting, trying to steal the ball in the inbounds. And it's like, you can't, part of why he works is that he never, ever lets up.
And I don't know how much gas he has.

Speaker 1 I also thought Siakam

Speaker 1 only playing 33 minutes. Siakam was a problem.
The Thunder had no answer for Siakam either.

Speaker 3 I think that you should play TJ. If Halliburton's going to continue to be hurt, you play TJ at home.
You give him heavy minutes at home. Got to love it.

Speaker 3 You let him feed off that crowd. There was one point, I think it was either Holmgren or maybe Hartenstein, but he got fouled by TJ.
Got fouled pretty hard.

Speaker 3 And then he turned around and he was like, it was an honor to be fouled by you, sir. They adapt each other up.
It was like that. I appreciate you going balls out.

Speaker 3 But that was also great crowd game for Oklahoma City. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Great crowd game. Oh, the stripeout?

Speaker 3 Yeah, the stripe out was awesome. They didn't sit down for the entire game.
It was loud as fuck.

Speaker 3 Even at one point, like when things weren't going well for the Oklahoma City Thunder, the crowd just never stopped chanting OKC. Yeah.
Even when like most crowds would be like, oh, fucked it.

Speaker 3 We're about to, the Pacers are about to do their Pacer thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Loud City, right? Is that what they were calling it? Loud City. Yeah, like they were calling it Loud City.
They had they had Red Panda at halftime. They showed the intros before the game,

Speaker 1 which, again, bullying works.

Speaker 1 At some point, Adam Silver has to stand up to the internet. Like, we just bully him left and right.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 We just complain about something. He's like, Yeah, you know what? We'll make that fix.

Speaker 3 Roger Goodell would never change a single thing. Ever, ever.
Ever. He would just make it worse, probably.

Speaker 1 If he did, we would have the throat slash back.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's like, okay, well,

Speaker 3 I'm going to make the NBA Finals logo on the court slipperier.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the Thunder, do we think they close it out in six?

Speaker 3 I think statistically, if you're just going based off history, it's like 80%.

Speaker 3 But then you add in the fact that Halliburton is not healthy right now.

Speaker 1 That's the part where I'm like, because if Halliburton was 100%, I would have the Pacers in game six. I would think this is going seven.
Either way, this has been a phenomenal series.

Speaker 1 Like, that was a great game. It was a two-point game with nine minutes left, and it was

Speaker 1 just fun basketball being played.

Speaker 3 So before the game,

Speaker 3 did you see the clip of SGA signing autographs? No. He signed 429 autographs before the game.
He signed autographs for everybody that brought him something. It was a sign.

Speaker 1 And there was a, someone was videoing the whole thing?

Speaker 3 And then Darren Revelle was like, okay, I'm out of merchandise. I'll let somebody else try.

Speaker 3 Yeah, somebody videoed the entire thing. If you're the Indiana Pacers, If I were you guys, I would show up.

Speaker 3 I would bring like 20,000 people wearing Thunder jerseys to the arena and have have SGA try to sign 20,000 autographs before the game. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Tire is foul shooting handout.

Speaker 1 You just need, yeah, this is actually a crazy video. What a guy.
He's nuts, right? What a guy. I mean, at some point, your hand has to get tired.

Speaker 3 It's the most Canadian thing ever.

Speaker 1 You're playing in an NBA Finals game.

Speaker 1 This is incredible.

Speaker 3 What a guy. Here you go.
Here's your autograph. Okay, now have a great day.
Take care.

Speaker 1 Oh, you want another one? You want a signer?

Speaker 3 Yeah, we were talking about SGA's great voice. Yeah.
It's actually just super Canadian.

Speaker 1 I'm dealing with Sean Hancock is a bit more.

Speaker 1 I think his voice is too deep. I've said this.

Speaker 1 I think he's got the voice of a seven-footer.

Speaker 3 I think we should just pretend that he's got a Canadian hockey voice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would work.

Speaker 1 Every time he talks, I'm like, oh,

Speaker 1 that guy's not seven feet. He's 6'6 ⁇ .

Speaker 1 So you guys think it's over? Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think. Well, you've said it's over.

Speaker 1 Yeah. After every game.

Speaker 3 I think it might be over.

Speaker 1 The Pacers have had two golden opportunities the last two games that they've kind of squandered.

Speaker 3 You know what, though? Every single time, this is the first time that the Pacers have been trailing in a series all playoffs, which is kind of crazy. True.

Speaker 3 I think the Pacers are going to figure out how to win one at home.

Speaker 1 I don't know how.

Speaker 3 I think maybe we get a TJ McConnell game. I think we just send him out there and we're like, we're going to empty TJ's personal tank on this one.

Speaker 1 That was the game to do it, though.

Speaker 1 They had the momentum with them. I agree.
You can't do it all the time, but if Hal Burton's out and he was clearly the spark. He was a like.

Speaker 1 They should have died with him last night and they didn't. The Thunders defense.
It shouldn't have been a question of should we have played him or not.

Speaker 1 The Thunders defense is incredible and tj mcconnell was ripping them up yeah they had no answer and they took him out for the last like six or whatever the the crucial six months six minutes when they lost the game yeah i uh turned the ball over like seven times in a row i think that if i'm going if we're going off the the series i've mentioned many times because it actually is now we're five games through and it's almost identical to the nuggets thunder series it would be nuggets it would be the the pacers winning game six and then the and then the uh thunder winning in seven i listen i'd love for it to go seven It's just that every time we count the Pacers out, they manage to do something crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Although, I think the Thunder are going to win this series.
I think so, too. I think that's, I guess that's ultimate counting them out, right?

Speaker 3 I think so, too. But, and I have no reason to believe that they're going to win game six, but I somehow do.
You know, like I've seen it enough from them where they can figure out a way to do it.

Speaker 3 Rick Carlisle is a great coach. Yeah.
He's one of the best coaches in the league, and he has been for a long time. They're going to figure out some weird thing, I think.

Speaker 1 TJ McConnell, you can't can't guard me with the spin moves. You have to guard me.
What TJ McConnell yelled at the Oklahoma City Thunder after he hit a wide open three.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 1 He also is,

Speaker 1 I know because of his height and maybe his complexion, people are like, oh, TJ McConnell, how's he doing? He is super athletic. Yeah.
Like, he's so fast.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's tricky because he's literally a coach's son.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's so shifty.

Speaker 3 So you can start being like, yeah, look at this guy. He's sneaky athletic, coach's son, grit, fundamentally sound, student of the game.
You can do all all those, but he's also insanely.

Speaker 3 If he was, if TJ McConnell was Australian, I think people would put a little bit more respect on his name. Yeah.
If he had like an exotic accent.

Speaker 1 I just, I walked away from that game being like, holy shit, the Thunder are what we've said all along. The, like, is this going to be their worst dynasty?

Speaker 1 Is this going to be their worst championship in the dynasty?

Speaker 1 Because Jalen Williams taking that next step in an NBA Finals game, it's crazy how, like, if they have SGA and Jalen Williams doing this and Chet maybe putting on 15 pounds, I don't know how.

Speaker 1 And it's just so many guys. Caruso leads the NBA Finals all time and steals off the bench.
That's just what they do. They bring it, they're like, oh,

Speaker 1 you think this is a problem?

Speaker 1 Watch this pit bull come in and just fucking harass the shit out of everyone.

Speaker 3 And last night was when they really looked like a historic defense. Yeah.
They've had moments before, and certainly like the regular season and in the playoffs, they've had incredible.

Speaker 3 This was their like signature game in the finals in terms of putting their defense out there. I don't, I know that in sports.

Speaker 1 The end of game four, too, was incredible.

Speaker 3 We have to talk about everything that it's like it's historic. Yeah.
And they did have a historic regular season. Their defense was great.

Speaker 3 But when you talk about the best of all time defense, I don't, I get a little annoyed when I hear that. Yeah.
Because you think of some great, like, as far as I'm going to, the Pistons,

Speaker 3 when they had the gentleman's sweep, that, to me, is the best defense of all time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, there's, I mean, some of the Bulls' dynasty years were insane defenses. Yeah, it's a different league now.
Yeah. It's a different league.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 Yeah, my hot seat is myself. Oh, shit.
Why?

Speaker 1 We alluded to it last week on the show, but

Speaker 1 the video is out.

Speaker 1 The Barstool Basketball League Association

Speaker 1 game, state Farm. It was my team versus Max's team.

Speaker 1 I would say Vegas had us at like a minus 300 going into the game. We were probably heavily favored.
More than that, yeah. Way more than that.
Way more than that. Who's on your team?

Speaker 1 My team was me, Dana Beers, Danny Conrad,

Speaker 1 and Ella Griff. Okay.

Speaker 3 And who was on Max's team?

Speaker 1 Max's team was Max, the Wonton Dawn, Stephanie, and Spider.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
And so, yeah, I would say you guys were the one seed.

Speaker 1 They were the eight seed in this tournament by the way just it it hurt me this took place two weeks ago It hurt me that we had to sit on this because all I wanted to do was get Max hit a game winner in Hank's eye.

Speaker 1 Nope, not in my eye false. You were on the court.
I was on the court. Did you see it?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did. Yeah, I was boxing out.
Max hit a game winner in Hank's eye, and we had to sit there and not talk about it for two weeks when all I wanted to do was talk about it.

Speaker 1 Because my boy Max, he is him. He is built different.
He double dribbled, but it was a good shot.

Speaker 3 It was clutch. So I watched the replay of the alleged double dribble.

Speaker 3 It was identical to when Steph Curry does that thing where he pretends to put his hand on the ball and keeps dribbling to make somebody bite on a fake.

Speaker 3 When he does it, it's like, oh, this is witchcraft. We've never seen a player with handles like this before.

Speaker 3 When Max does it, you try to become a deputized official at home, and it's disrespectful to Max's game because that was a sick move that he put on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm actually honored because that's just unbelievable loser talk from

Speaker 1 everyone trying to say double draft. It is loser talk.
Big time. So, just so people who didn't watch, go watch because we got a bunch of games coming up.
PFT and I are on the same team.

Speaker 1 It's great basketball. Great basketball.
The BBL? The BBL. Nope.

Speaker 3 The BBL Drifts. BBA.

Speaker 1 BBA.

Speaker 1 So it's games to 11, not win by two.

Speaker 1 Hank's team was up 10 to 6. All they needed was a bucket.
It's not make it take it either. So

Speaker 1 Max's team scores a bucket, Hank's team gets it. They have Dana.
They have Hank.

Speaker 1 Basically, a professional basketball team. I had a free throw to win.
Hank went 0 for 1 from the line. He went 0 for 8 from 3.

Speaker 1 We're looking at the Bushy score right there.

Speaker 1 I saw her. No, Yugs Bunny did.
Not Dana. Right, right, right, right, right.
Yugs Bunny, Yugsbunny. 3 for 12 from

Speaker 1 the field.

Speaker 1 Three turnovers, costly turnovers. Costly.
Really bad turnovers. What happened with 0 for 8 from the 3? Because a lot of those, you were not guarded at all.
Yeah, I went 0 for 8 from 3.

Speaker 1 I did not make one.

Speaker 1 I missed 8.

Speaker 1 And Max is not... Max, what would you say? Basketball is like your 10th best sport? Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's not one of my best sports. I'd like to say that I can compete out there, but.

Speaker 3 You filled up the stat sheet, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no.

Speaker 3 Efficient game. 3 for 6.
And you were, what, 1 for 2 from 3? 3 for 6. 50%.

Speaker 3 10 boards.

Speaker 1 1 for 2 from 3.

Speaker 1 Can I throw a spin zone for our guy, Hank? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He needs one.

Speaker 1 All right. Here's the spin zone.
All right. So, yeah, the game sucked.
Max hit a game-winning three in your eye. Max barely plays basketball.
You play and train basketball all the time.

Speaker 1 What? Were you not trying to dunk? Were you not trying to dunk? You were training basketball.

Speaker 1 I was literally training basketball. I was training basketball.
You spent a year training basketball.

Speaker 1 You trained basketball. Okay.
You're right.

Speaker 1 So you trained basketball. Max, it's not even, he doesn't even think of it as like, if you're like, hey, give us your best sports, it's like,

Speaker 1 he's got to take off his shoes to count to the basketball and socks.

Speaker 1 But the spin zone is, Hank, at least during this game, you didn't basically beat up a girl.

Speaker 1 That was a good thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you did. Yeah, yeah, you kind of did.
You ran her over. You ran her over.
I blocked her.

Speaker 1 Did she block you? No. Oh.

Speaker 3 Did you step over?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 I thought that there was... You blocked her and then you blocked her.

Speaker 1 And then I tried to hold her up from falling and then she fell and then I tried to pick her up and she was like, don't ever fucking touch me again. Yeah.
That was amazing. That was great.

Speaker 3 You shoved her to the ground. Shout out to her.

Speaker 1 I did not shove her to the ground. Dana Beers, like, almost.

Speaker 1 Max knocked Ella Griff through Earth's core.

Speaker 1 That's not true. She bounced, like, there's still a bunch of batteries.
And there's a dent in the court from how hard she hit the ground.

Speaker 1 I was going up for

Speaker 1 her stomach hit her fucking head and she got a concussion.

Speaker 1 She tried to get in the paint. It was such a great game.
I'm so happy for you, Max.

Speaker 1 The whole crowd was rooting for you.

Speaker 1 I cannot stress the upset this was. And the people at home, they have no idea the upset that happened on this court.
Like, Dana and Hank were both looked at as two of the best players in the entire

Speaker 1 league.

Speaker 1 Big Cat was like calling protest to the whole thing because somehow they got on the same team.

Speaker 1 Jerry drafted Max one overall. Second overall.
Second overall.

Speaker 1 For vibes. Yeah, for vibes.

Speaker 1 Then there ended up being trades. My team was literally tanking.
My team was literally tanking against the team that the rest of the entire tournament was upset that they somehow got together.

Speaker 1 We were like, this team is the best team because the way the draft went down, it's like,

Speaker 1 how did Dana fall to three? Because Jerry took Max second.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 3 In your eye. Hank, how did you feel about the entire office rooting against you?

Speaker 1 I'm used to that. Everyone here hates me.

Speaker 1 I love you.

Speaker 1 It was bad. There was nothing.
It was such a bad choke. I had a free throw to literally win the game.

Speaker 1 Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah.
I completely mentally checked out. I was like, this is a formality.
You know, we're going to score. It's not if, it's when.
This game is over.

Speaker 1 I counted my chickens before they hatched. Max, you know, double dribbled, didn't get the call.
Smart play. Loser talk.

Speaker 1 It was a clutch shot. I'm very happy it wasn't in my eye.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 your eye was open. So much worse.

Speaker 1 I do have real spins open for you. Ready? Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Tough, tough couple days for you. Max hitting the game winner in your eye.
You falling asleep during the U.S. Open.

Speaker 1 Never talk about naps again, by the way.

Speaker 1 You're banned from talking about naps.

Speaker 3 Are we big nap-talking guys?

Speaker 1 Every fucking golf tournament of all time is like, I can't wait for Sunday to take my nap. That's usually Saturday.
That's every podcast you guys have ever done. I don't think that we've done that.

Speaker 1 I just didn't realize there were so many strict rules and regulations. It's not a rule and regulations.

Speaker 3 You're also the golf guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're a golf expert. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We don't take naps during NFL games. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. So, can you get a bunch of them? Can I get to my spin zone 10?

Speaker 1 Can I get to my spin zone?

Speaker 3 Sure. They don't rain delay NFL games.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you've had a tough couple days.

Speaker 1 PFC and I have decided to get you

Speaker 1 a tea time

Speaker 1 and a flight to Pebble Beach. Wow.

Speaker 1 So we're going to send you Pebble Beach this weekend. Wow.
Yeah. Yep.
Wow. Yep.
And we talked to your dad. He's going to come too.
We've paid for him as well. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, that's pretty nice of us, right? Pebble lifetime. Wow.
Thank you guys. Yeah, we wanted you to have a nice trip.

Speaker 1 So we paid all expenses paid. Uh-huh.
Pebble Beach. Junior.
And it does Pebble Beach. Yeah.
Thank you guys. I'm so excited.
Can you do it? Can you drop everything?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll have to check some things, but I think I can easily do it. You leave at 7 a.m.
tomorrow morning.

Speaker 3 I hope that's okay. We had to move around a lot lot of stuff.
Thank you, guys. We called in all the favors that we had.

Speaker 1 That's amazing. My day is turned around.

Speaker 3 And then next week, you're going to love this too. Next week, we're going to have you play into the writer coach.

Speaker 1 Wow. We created a whole golf tournament just for you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was going to be, well, there was some talk about who was going to get to play, who wasn't going to get to play. And we said, sorry, Francis, you're out.
Hank's in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's exciting.

Speaker 1 I'm excited. I'm excited to see you.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much. I love you guys.
You can't be mad at us anymore. No, I never was.
Well, you're mad at us. I max stuff.
And you were mad about Max hitting it in your eye.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And then also, I know that you wanted to be in the dozen this week, but we took care of that.
You're not going to play. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 So no trivia and you get to golf. Wow.
Pebble Beach. That's a dream.
You're going to Pebble Beach, buddy. That's a dream.
I will say it is

Speaker 1 being 32 now, it's like I...

Speaker 1 I used to be irrationally confident about my athletic abilities and it bothered me when I, you know, I'm bad. I don't really care as much anymore.

Speaker 1 Like I've just accepted being, like, it's like, I want to get more mad at myself, but it's like, yeah, I'm 32. I might just be an absolute joke of an athlete.
PFT and I were on the same team.

Speaker 1 We were the oldest team by far because Stephen Shea was on our team as well. So it's two 40-year-olds, and I think Stephen Shea is 39.
We had the conversation before.

Speaker 1 We're like, hey, we want to win this thing, but we also need to not get injured. Yeah, because I was thinking hypothetical.

Speaker 1 You guys might surprise me with a trip to Pebble, and like, I can't, like, if I get injured for that, I will literally want to die. Never let it down.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 It is kind of liberating reaching that spot where you're okay with looking like an idiot trying to deploy sports, right?

Speaker 3 Where you're like, okay, yeah, I'm not as good as at one point I thought I could be.

Speaker 1 And it's also like,

Speaker 1 I just keep going back, like, hey, we're, we're 40 and we're still out there doing it. We're competing.
That deserves some credit. Like, just going out there and competing.

Speaker 1 32, I mean, that's whatever. Pebble.
He had to stay healthy for Pebble.

Speaker 3 Do you think that thought crosses Aaron Rodgers' brain at all? Like, I just don't want to get hurt. Yeah.
Like, who am I trying to impress? I'm 41 years old.

Speaker 3 I just want to go out there and show the world that old guys can still get out on a field.

Speaker 1 There should be a rule in all sports: if you, like, a 40-year-old touchdown counts for an extra point. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's like, also, he's still doing it. 300-pound-plus touchdown should be more.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Facts. Okay, you're Chiltern.
Oh, wow. That was a long hot seat.
Yeah, well, these pictures are incredible. The show hit the show.
Spider-Hidden. Spider PFT,

Speaker 1 smiling as wide as I've ever seen him smile. Where? In the background.
Oh, is that me?

Speaker 1 I tweeted one too. There's one where you were closer.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, that's fake news. You're really sad.
I was real broke.

Speaker 1 I just kept on running around behind Max being like, he's him. My boy is him.

Speaker 1 Just an all-time resolve.

Speaker 3 I was about to say it's not personal.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. No, that smile is personal.

Speaker 3 That's not me, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that's

Speaker 1 you, right? That's me? Yeah, that's a personal smile.

Speaker 1 Zoom in. That's personal glee.
Enhance.

Speaker 1 You're having the time of your life.

Speaker 3 I mean, it was a great joke. I thought that I was on the other side.
That could be me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's you. And you're having the time of your life.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's me. Oh, that's as personal as the cat.

Speaker 3 That's personal. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just want to, you know, Hank, my happiness after was 1,000% personal. Yeah, no, I know.
I know. I know.
And that's, you know, I'm happy to provide a moment. It's like, you know,

Speaker 1 the haters won this one. They've been winning a lot.
Well, it was just Pepple Beach. But Pepple Beach.

Speaker 1 I mean, you guys, that's the, I can't, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 That's not so much personal. That's just me enjoying a historical moment.

Speaker 1 The free throw was so bad. Oh, so bad.
The free throw was so bad.

Speaker 1 That's all it took. And at that point, I was like, all right, let's just say we moved on, Max.
Let's just kind of chill through.

Speaker 1 Honestly, we should have talked about it more because I've been waiting for two weeks to talk about this.

Speaker 1 The turnovers were really, really

Speaker 1 good. Yeah, you had some bad ones.
Some bad ones. Really bad ones.
Free throws. You just like dropped the ball one day.

Speaker 1 Oh, for eight from 3 is almost hard to do yeah how many that's not true no just keep watching keep keep keep tuning in and tell me if that's 0 for 8 is going to be pretty fucking

Speaker 1 when all things are said and done did you at some point think maybe i should have worn more bracelets No, I probably should have taken the bracelets off. Why did you have so many bracelets on?

Speaker 1 I just had them on. I didn't take them off.
You feeling like you're about to do the opening set at Bonnaroo. What the fuck? Yeah, it's bad.
It was a bad fit.

Speaker 3 Has Billy Strings been getting in the way of your athletics?

Speaker 1 I guess. I don't know.
I'm just not athletic. It's over.
Yeah. It's a good thing he spent a year training for this moment.

Speaker 3 Training basket. Okay, chill thrown.

Speaker 1 My chill throne is Joey Chestnut. Yes.
He's back. He's officially, as a Monday, competing again in the Nathan's hot dog eating contest.
So good.

Speaker 1 I feel like he committed to something else. He was thinking.
I think what. I thought I saw a report like he was doing something in St.
Louis. Well, what I think.
And I think everyone got mad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then that must have.

Speaker 1 We're going to have it. We'll have him on before because he is the goat.

Speaker 1 We've said it before, but everyone should think they're lucky stars. They were alive at the same time as Joey Chestnut, the most dominant athlete of all time.

Speaker 1 I think he was setting up a competing event, and Nathan's probably blinked, being like, fuck, everyone's going to watch Joey. I'm going to watch Joey.

Speaker 3 It's July 4th. He released a statement yesterday saying that

Speaker 3 he'd never lost his love for the dogs. He just entered into a partnership with a plant-based company last year.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And while he has continued that professional relationship, the hot dog competition means more to him. So he's going to find a way to make it work this year.
And guess what? He's going to smoke him.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's going to put on a show.

Speaker 3 He's going to smoke them.

Speaker 1 I want to see an all-time record. It feels good.
It feels like 4th of July. We missed the 4th of July.

Speaker 3 Now we're back. It's gotten to the point where I would be disappointed if I don't get to see a record from Joey Chestnut.
I'd agree. It's like Joey's not just taking on every other eater in the world.

Speaker 3 He's taking on

Speaker 3 history himself. And it is rare.
It's like him, Usain Bolt, you could say this about both guys. When you're watching them compete.

Speaker 1 Michael Phelps.

Speaker 3 Michael, maybe, yeah, maybe Michael Phelps, but when you're watching Joey Chestnut eat, he is the best eater, not just in the world. He is the best eater to ever live on planet Earth.

Speaker 3 Nobody has ever been able to eat like him.

Speaker 1 Nobody probably ever will.

Speaker 3 Like, out of the billions of people that have ever existed, he's top dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mondo. We could be so lucky.
Mondo.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Mondo and Joey Chestnut.
Two goats. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, your hot seat chill thrown.

Speaker 3 My hot seat was going to be Hank, but we already covered that a little bit. So my hot seat is Jay Monaghan,

Speaker 3 the leader of the PGA Tour,

Speaker 3 because he is stepping down.

Speaker 3 His contract's not being renewed at the end of this year. And instead, they're getting Brian Rolap from the NFL.
Brian Rolap is going to step into golf.

Speaker 3 He was on the short list of people that were going to succeed Roger Goodell after he left. So there's a major coup by golf.
to get a top name.

Speaker 3 But I also read that don't count Brian Rolap out bouncing back to the NFL after he's done straightening golf. So I, but the wheels started to turn a little bit.

Speaker 3 What's the biggest challenge facing golf right now, big cat?

Speaker 1 I would say getting everyone to play in one league. Yes.

Speaker 3 So the blueprint that's in place, the framework that's in place.

Speaker 3 He's being brought in, I think, in large part to figure out that framework, make a deal so that Liv and PGA, they get back together after they announced like a year and a half ago that they were merging.

Speaker 3 And then then for the NFL, one of the biggest problems they're having is you're running out of guys that can afford to buy NFL teams that don't already have an NFL team.

Speaker 3 One of the outlets for that could be allowing foreign investment funds in.

Speaker 3 He's going to go over to the PGA, figure out how to play nice with the Saudis, and then he's going to come back to the NFL in a few years and be like, okay, we're opening up the potential investors in NFL teams to foreign investment funds.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, Saudis, come play ball with us in golf. Let me fix golf.
And on the back end, I'll let you buy a franchise. Yes, I'll let you own a commissioner.

Speaker 3 I'll let you own an NFL team. I'm going to introduce you to American sports.
We're going to figure out how to navigate sports media without killing any of the journalists.

Speaker 3 Once you can prove that you're good at that, then we're going to bring you into the NFL. I like it.
That's where I see this going eventually.

Speaker 1 I also love that commissioners of leagues, there's like a pool of like 10 guys that they pick from. Yeah.
Like there's, you know, he's going to go to golf and go back to the NFL.

Speaker 1 It's like Gary Bettman started in the NBA and then he was like third in command and then went to the NHL. It's like we only have so many guys we could pick from.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I went to school to be commissioner. Yeah.
And that now I've got experience being a commissioner.

Speaker 3 I think that being the CEO of the PGA Tour,

Speaker 1 probably a dream job.

Speaker 3 I would say so. I would say more of a dream job than being commissioner of the NFL.
Commissioner of the NFL, dream salary.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you get paid

Speaker 3 44 million to just be a punching bag. But if you're the CEO of the PGA Tour, you're just hanging hanging out in the courts.

Speaker 1 What about Dream Job?

Speaker 1 You actually also have power. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
What about Dream Job being the producer of the number one sports podcast and getting a free trip to Pebble Beach?

Speaker 3 By far. I mean, that's just beyond.

Speaker 1 Truly, pretty on the

Speaker 1 free trip to Pebble Beach. We booked the T-Top.
We did this like two months ago thinking, you know what, if we play a basketball competition, Max will most likely hit a game-winning three in Hanksaw.

Speaker 3 It was such a good moment.

Speaker 3 It was such a good moment. Go watch it if you haven't already.
Watch it.

Speaker 3 My cool throne is.

Speaker 1 Chill throne.

Speaker 3 Chill throne. My chill throne is ping.
Oh. College World Series.
Yeah. Baseball bats.
Yes. College World Series has been awesome.

Speaker 3 Shout out Gage Wood, an all-time name guy, pitcher for Arkansas, struck out 19 people, 19.

Speaker 3 And he threw a no-hitter.

Speaker 1 No hitter.

Speaker 3 Third no-hitter in the College World Series. I think he hit one guy, right? But besides that, it was a perfect game.

Speaker 3 I actually think that if you throw 19 strikeouts and you hit one guy and throw a no-hitter, that is the perfect game.

Speaker 1 I think they had an error as well. Oh, that's true.

Speaker 1 Before he hit a guy. But yeah, unbelievable.
19 strikeouts. Awesome.

Speaker 3 It's pretty incredible. And it was against Murray State.
Yep.

Speaker 3 Racers. Shout out to the Racers at Murray State.
Cinderella runs over.

Speaker 3 They were an easy team to root forth. Their coach cut the grass at the field.

Speaker 3 It was kind of cool to see them in it. But yeah, college baseball and with the MLB and NIL,

Speaker 3 college baseball is way better than it used to be. Yeah.
Because you've got more guys playing college ball, making money there instead of going to play

Speaker 3 in the minor leagues. So the World Series has been great so far.
Yes, it has.

Speaker 1 It's been awesome. All right, my hot seat is

Speaker 1 Kevin Durant because it came out that Kevin Durant's preferred trade destination was New York, but the Knicks didn't have the same level of interest. You can't let that get out.

Speaker 1 You can't let that get out.

Speaker 3 I think James Dolan needed a dub.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a good idea. He was

Speaker 3 sick of getting rejected, so we had to be like, oh, just FYI, Kevin Durant wants to play here, but we said, no, we don't need you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we also have

Speaker 1 the Sham's body language experts out being like, did you see what he, the look he gave when they mentioned the Spurs is a landing spot for Kevin Durant? So everyone thinks he's going to the Spurs.

Speaker 3 I can't wait.

Speaker 1 Sham's being a little cheeky with it. He kind of looked at the camera and gave a little smile.
It looked like he said it to Shumpert before. Yeah.
And then he was like, maybe mad.

Speaker 1 Like, you were not supposed to say that. Yeah.
But he's, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah. Oh, he looks right into the camera.
Like he told Schumpert, like, off the record, he's going to the Spurs.

Speaker 1 And Shumper's like, I think he's going to go to the Spurs.

Speaker 1 And Shums was like, what the fuck? Yeah.

Speaker 3 He's like, that's my scoop. Wind horse, Windhorse's hair is just, oh, he's the best.
You see Wendy watching the game on a laptop? Love that. Yeah.
Love it. Just grinding it out backstage.

Speaker 1 Ball is life. All right.
Couple other chill thrones.

Speaker 1 Quick. I actually,

Speaker 1 the article came out about Devers being an asshole. What do you think, Hank?

Speaker 1 I think that's just the ownership. I think it's a smear job.
Yeah, it was a smear job. It was a total smear job.
It was a smear job.

Speaker 3 He wouldn't take ground balls, Hank.

Speaker 1 He wouldn't,

Speaker 1 when one of what your rookie said he would play first base after Devers said he wouldn't, and then Devers got mad at him for being like, why would you say that? Why would you play first?

Speaker 1 I feel like there's some truth to both sides, but I feel like this is, you know,

Speaker 1 the ownership has done this before. So it's like hard.
It's hard to

Speaker 1 believe everything they're saying. You got to take it with a grain of salt.
Yeah, Devers needs to get his smear job going the other way.

Speaker 3 Let me ask you this, Hank. If the Mookie Bets thing hadn't happened, would you still be taking Devers' side in this?

Speaker 1 No, not necessarily.

Speaker 3 Now it's like a pattern.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Definitely.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's been a pattern. Also, real quick, Angel Reese getting the copyright for Mebounds.
Kind of a cool move. Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 That's a making fun of yourself move. Own it.
Yeah. Mebounds is a great phrase.
And then finally, my last chill thrown,

Speaker 1 MLB, doing it right. They are going back to the regular uniforms for the All-Star game, which I love.
Okay. So they're not doing the weird everyone wears the same uniform.

Speaker 1 Everyone's wearing their home or road

Speaker 1 uniform,

Speaker 1 which I think is so much better.

Speaker 3 They're wearing the same cap?

Speaker 1 I don't know if they're wearing the same cap. Logos, old school logos? So these are every uniform.
That's the Home Run Derby uniform

Speaker 1 and like what the guys will be wearing during the Home Run Derby. And then when they're actually playing the MLB All-Star game this year, they'll be playing their own.

Speaker 1 They'll be wearing their own jerseys, which I think is so much better. Yeah.
They should put the old the league logos on the jerseys, too. You think so? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Those are great. A-L-N-L? Yeah.
Playing for League Pride. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or just a patch or something.

Speaker 1 Oh, it looks like they're wearing their own. They might be wearing their own hats.
I like that. No, like the National League.
There's a National League logo and American League logo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the old school one that you're talking about.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I don't know if I mentioned this on the show, but when I was in Milwaukee, all the brewers, like almost every single brewer, when I walked by said, Christian Yellish is going to win the home run derby this year.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You did, but

Speaker 1 it needs to be repeated because it needs to get me more skilled. It's disgusting.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Zach, your hot seat chill thrown.

Speaker 3 I do have a hot seat chill thrown for you today, big cat. My hot seat today would be

Speaker 3 Arena Football League Fat Punter getting absolutely leveled. Yes.
After his punt.

Speaker 1 Crushed. Destroyed.
But not really crushed. He just fell really hard because he's fat.

Speaker 3 I mean, they pop the top. Helmet off.

Speaker 1 He's face down in the turf. But I don't think he got hit that hard.
The big guys fall hard. He falls really hard.
The gravity just kind of just got pushed and then it destroyed him.

Speaker 3 It was a blind side block. They threw a flag on it, right?

Speaker 1 But it wasn't, that wasn't like a

Speaker 1 well, he got pushed by another fat. So the guy wasn't moving that fast.
Fatty fat crime.

Speaker 3 Keep your neck on a swivel.

Speaker 1 I love this. They should just have an arena league that's just 300 pounders only and playing skill positions would be awesome.

Speaker 1 Okay, good hot seat. Chill throne?

Speaker 3 I do have a chill throne for you as well.

Speaker 3 Minicamp week for the Rams is coming up. They're going to Maui.
I think that's a fantastic place to be this time of year. I believe the weather this week's going to be 80 and sunny.

Speaker 1 Wow. I don't like it.
It's soft, though.

Speaker 3 I don't like stunning outside. Soft.

Speaker 1 Don't you think that's soft? Soft? Yeah. Well, I mean, you're going to Hawaii for minicamp? That seems like a lot of vacation, although minicamp's not like, it's not training camp.

Speaker 3 I mean, there's going to be a lot of football put in on field.

Speaker 3 That's but also you got to, yeah, I think there's ATV tours, you know, there's Sea Turtle tours, 3x5.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that might be a good move for future free.

Speaker 3 If they do this every year, this is kind of like our version of the Greenbrier in West Virginia, just absolutely no distractions.

Speaker 1 I mean, they look like they're having the best time ever.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm going to call it right now. Soft.
Morale's at all-time high here, though.

Speaker 1 Soft. Team bonding? Get the boys together.

Speaker 1 That's not grit. That's not football.
Here's the thing. That's on the field.

Speaker 3 This is off-field. I fully acknowledge the fact that OTAs are not that useful.
You go out there, you meet your teammates, you do like a little bit of work.

Speaker 3 It doesn't need to be held like hell in a cell where you're kept in prison while you do OTAs.

Speaker 3 But also at the same time, I see this and I'm like, that's not old school football.

Speaker 1 Could you, Zach, let me throw this out there. Like imagine this podcast, football podcast, first and foremost.
We have Grit Week.

Speaker 1 That's what we do.

Speaker 1 Imagine if we did like a chill week where we just hung out and like golfed and like hung out in California somewhere and swam and boated and stuff. I think that's great balance.

Speaker 1 It'd be great for vibes. Fantastic balance.
All right, you know what, Zach? Good idea. Let's do Chill Week this year.
Good idea. Let's do it.
Chill week, great call. Hank, we got you another gift.

Speaker 1 No way. Yeah.
Chill week.

Speaker 1 Oh my god. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 You liked Lake Tahoe last year to do it.

Speaker 1 More golf. It's for you.
It's for you. More golfer right after the Ryder Cup?

Speaker 1 Here's another thing, Hank. You are going to get to compete in a long drive competition.
Wow. Yeah.
Yep. That's exciting.
That's incredible. And that's exciting.
Another opportunity.

Speaker 3 You're going to be competing against a guy that has been told by a swing coach to not hit driver at all.

Speaker 1 Oh, in preparation for it. That's not what we said.
Well, what did we say?

Speaker 3 Driver is a reward.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Driver is a reward.

Speaker 3 I get to hit driver if I hit every other club like 20 times a year.

Speaker 1 It's like giving my kids gummy worms

Speaker 1 after dinner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, eat your dinner and then you get dessert.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I have to eat all my vegetables first.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Good hot seat chills are on boys. Let's do our interviews.
We got JJ Spond, U.S.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. He is the U.S.
Open champion, JJ Spawn. JJ, thank you for joining us.
Let's start with how that feels to be called the U.S. Open Champion.

Speaker 1 Has it fully set in yet? It's Tuesday morning. I assume the check hasn't cleared.
It clears on Wednesdays. But

Speaker 1 has it set in that you are now forever a U.S. Open champion?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think so. It's been

Speaker 6 a little over 36 hours, I would say, to kind of let it all sink in. But kind of doing the whole media runs,

Speaker 6 you know, seeing waking up next to the trophy the last couple mornings, it's starting to sink in, but it's definitely surreal. Still got to pinch myself sometimes.

Speaker 3 It's pretty great. So waking up next to the trophy, are you sleeping with the trophy?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 6 my wife would not allow that.

Speaker 6 She's, you know, the trophy, the real trophy. That's good.

Speaker 1 That's a good answer.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I know how, you know, that goes with life. So I got to say the the right things, but uh, yeah, no, she the trophy's been right there on the nightstand.

Speaker 6 Uh, wake up next to it every morning, and you know, it's it's something that you always dream of doing, having this wonderful trophy to kind of carry around and show off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is kind of cool.

Speaker 3 Like, I know that uh, when I got a new car, I would just sometimes walk away from the car and just like look at it in the parking lot.

Speaker 3 Do you just find yourself stopping in your house and just like looking at the trophy?

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah, like I'm just staring at all the names, looking at all the details. I mean, this trophy is 120-plus years old, so

Speaker 6 it's incredible to have it in my hands.

Speaker 1 All right, so I have a question about the trophy. Then we want to talk about your final round at Oakmont.

Speaker 1 A mutual friend of ours tipped me off to this question. So it's a two-part question.
The first is:

Speaker 1 How many monster energy drinks did you drink on Sunday before the final round? And then how many monster energy drinks fit into the trophy? I don't know if you can guess who the mutual friend is.

Speaker 6 Jimmy Renna.

Speaker 1 Yes, Jim. Jim Renner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, out of nowhere texted me this he didn't even know we were having you on he just texted me on monday morning he's like you have to ask jj how many how many monster energy drinks he drank on sunday i was like dude we don't even have them scheduled yet but he knew so so how many monster energy drinks oh man well it's a funny story i don't drink white white can monster energy drinks like like renner does but uh

Speaker 6 we were actually chatting about it i think it could fit you know what are they tall boys i i think you could fit four in there We know it fits about eight IPA cans, you know, the whatever 12, 16 ounces.

Speaker 6 So, um, but yeah, it's, it's super funny, Renner. We have this story where

Speaker 6 I was traveling. We were traveling on the corn ferry tour together, you know, back in 2016.
And

Speaker 6 we were staying at the same hotel. So we shared a car ride to the course.
It was like 5 a.m. We had early tea time.
And he goes,

Speaker 6 you know, in his Boston accent, he's like, yeah, I got to stop at the gas station. You know, I was like, all right, let's go get a coffee.
I was thinking he's going to get coffee.

Speaker 6 Grabs an orange juice. I'm like, Okay, good start.
And then a white monster.

Speaker 6 What are you doing? Like, making a monster mimosa or something? He's like, Nah, this is how I start my day. And so it's just been kind of like a funny inside joke.
You know, the white canned monsters.

Speaker 6 That's that's Renner's choice of drink.

Speaker 1 So, how many did you have on Sunday?

Speaker 6 None. I was drinking beer.

Speaker 1 Okay, but before the round, do you do it? Do you drink any monsters before?

Speaker 6 Oh, heck no. I couldn't do that.
I do coffee in the morning.

Speaker 6 I don't think the monster energy would really help the nerves and anxiety leading into the final round of a USO.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So let's talk about nerves and anxiety.

Speaker 1 I'm sure you've been asked this, but do you think you win this tournament if there is no rain delay? Because it did feel,

Speaker 1 and you could tell us how you felt to start the day. It was, it felt like it was slipping.
You had a little bad luck where it, you know, hits the flagstick.

Speaker 1 But then the rain delay happens. And when you come back from the rain delay, you were locked in and you were like ready to go.

Speaker 1 Do you think that that time off got you to a reset point where you're like, all right, I can still win this thing?

Speaker 6 Oh, 100%.

Speaker 6 When that horn blew, my caddy and I looked at each other. We kind of just said, you know, this is exactly what we need, kind of a little break to go back inside.

Speaker 6 you know, reset, collect our thoughts and

Speaker 6 kind of get a fresh start, kind of like a halftime, you know, in

Speaker 6 any other sport where you you kind of regroup and come back out firing so it actually ironically happened to me the same same thing happened at the players earlier this year where i had a close call where i lost in the playoff against rory where sunday i was going into the final round with a one-shot lead and was kind of off to a slow start lost the lead on the front nine and then this weather came in and we had about a three-hour delay and went back out and almost did the same thing, just started firing on all cylinders, clawed my way back to tie for the tournament after regulation.

Speaker 6 And,

Speaker 6 you know, when that happened on Sunday at Oakmont, I kind of just went back to that experience. I'm like, okay, like you've done this before and capitalized on it.

Speaker 6 If it hadn't been going the other way where I was starting off hot, maybe leading, and then the delay happened, it could have been a different story.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So what did you do during the rain delay?

Speaker 6 I changed my clothes. I was like, I'm not wearing these clothes.
I want to come out like feeling like

Speaker 6 nothing was carrying over from that first start to the restart, I I guess you could say. So, yeah, changed everything.
Even my cat, I mean, we got drenched, so it made sense to change clothes.

Speaker 6 We'd be sitting in the locker room freezing if we didn't. And yeah, we just chilled, had some, had some lunch, and you know, it was a pretty quick turnaround, about an hour and a half or so.

Speaker 6 And, you know, it was game on again. Yeah.

Speaker 3 How did you feel about the course this week? I know that there were some complaints about the course. We respect the course at the U.S.
Open.

Speaker 3 We like to watch professional golfers struggle the way that we struggle when we play golf. So it's kind of nice for us.
But being out there and you having to play it,

Speaker 3 did you enjoy your rounds when you were actually playing or were you like, I can't wait to get off this fucking thing?

Speaker 6 No, I embraced it. And I think that's the mentality you have to have

Speaker 6 going into a U.S. Open.
I mean, it's the toughest test in golf. And, you know, a lot of guys went to Scout Oakmont early.

Speaker 6 People were asking me if I was going to do that. And I said, no, I'm not going to go there and start freaking out before I have to be there.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 Like, I don't want to go a month prior and be like, okay, I got to do this. I got to make sure this is right.

Speaker 6 I was just telling myself, I'm going to go into

Speaker 6 the tournament week with the game that I had and whether it would be good enough. We'll see.
And, you know, I just took the course as it came. You know, it's all you can really do.

Speaker 6 Everyone's going to hit bad shots. Everyone's going to get bad breaks.

Speaker 6 But I think kind of just... staying in the moment and trying to take what the course gives you is the biggest thing you can do.

Speaker 6 And even when things weren't weren't going great for me on front nine, I just tried my best to just stay patient and give what the course gave me. And, you know, it gave me the win.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah. So, so your

Speaker 1 final few holes, you hit some incredible shots. Obviously, the drive on 17, was that a drive of a lifetime? Was that the best drive you ever hit?

Speaker 6 Probably. I mean, that would be a 10 out of 10, you know, given the situation, the scenario,

Speaker 6 what was on the line,

Speaker 6 but it was nice to, you know, I actually hit a really good drive in the practice round that was almost identical to that.

Speaker 6 So I kind of just had that in the memory bank where, you know, okay, like I've hit a great T-shot on this hole before.

Speaker 6 But it was huge in the respect that, you know, going into 18, which was a fairway I only hit once, maybe twice all week

Speaker 6 to kind of lean on that swing that I just put six minutes prior.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 So it was a great kind of like pathway to being able to still cap it off because 18 is no cupcake, you know, especially with a one-shot lead at the U.S. Open.

Speaker 6 And, you know, man, I, that, the T-shot on 18 might have been, you know, even a better T-shot than 17.

Speaker 1 Oh, all right. So we had one other shot we wanted to discuss.
Our golf expert, Hank, on our show said that he actually thought your

Speaker 1 approach shot on 15 was the shot of the tournament where you get on, you know, you hit a great shot.

Speaker 1 You were in the rough, I don't know what it was, like 70 yards.

Speaker 1 Do you remember that shot?

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah. I hit in the left rough off the tee, tried to lay up.

Speaker 6 The lie was okay,

Speaker 6 but it's so long and it's wet. It's been raining and you have no control over the face.

Speaker 6 The last thing I wanted to do on that, the angle of that pin and the way the green pitches is miss this left in the left rough because then I'm dead.

Speaker 6 So I was like, okay, I'm just going to try to aim a little right. So it it came out a little better than I want, carried, carried it too far into the rough, but that lie wasn't great either.

Speaker 6 And I could have easily brought in double or double bogey or worse.

Speaker 6 And to actually hit a really good shot out of there to about 15 feet or so and have a chance for par was

Speaker 6 great. I mean, you know, I didn't make the putt, but I was able to limit the damage.
And I don't think I made a double bogey all week. Yeah.

Speaker 3 No, that's what U.S. Open Golf is about.
And yeah, our golf expert, Hank, was glued to the TV watching that one. Yeah.
And it was very impressive.

Speaker 1 He came in. We were like, oh, what about that drive on 17? What about that drive on 18? What about the putt on 18? He was like, no, the approach shot on 15.

Speaker 1 That was the one where it's like the disasters you avoid.

Speaker 6 I could agree with that. Yeah, because

Speaker 6 I could have made double or triple and then it's over. You know, I mean, who knows what happens? And I kind of really start unraveling, you know, 16 through 18.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I want to go back to the weather delay real quick. When you go into the clubhouse, did they have the TVs on? Were you guys able to watch Tiger Woods at the 2008 U.S.
Open?

Speaker 6 Yeah, we were watching. It was me, Scotty, Russell Henley, one of the Russell,

Speaker 6 Ken Taggett, one of the rules officials. We were just there watching it and just laughing at all the crap he was pulling off, like chipping in.

Speaker 6 And, you know, Rocco and looking at the clubs he's using. We're just kind of like giggling at that.
And it was a cool moment to kind of just relax.

Speaker 6 And, you know, no matter how things were going on the course for me, it was a nice way to kind of let go of it and come out with a better attitude.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're like, at least this guy is not playing against me. I don't have to go out there and be and beat 2008 Tiger.

Speaker 3 I also heard that you got some advice from Tiger via Max Homa, who advised you to just stay there.

Speaker 3 Was what you said was his advice was, does Max get 10% of your purse? Was that $400,000?

Speaker 6 Max is rich enough.

Speaker 6 He doesn't need my money.

Speaker 6 But no, it was a cool moment. This was probably a month or so ago.

Speaker 6 We're both members at West Brock and we're just eating lunch and talking about, you know, how Tiger, you know, relayed sort of the perspective on championship golf and what it takes to win, that you don't have to do anything crazy.

Speaker 6 Like everyone thinks that, you know, he had to pull off these miraculous shots. He just did by nature because he's the GOAT.
But, you know, in a sense, like... You just got to stay there.

Speaker 6 Don't feel like you have to do anything crazy. Just stay within attack within shouting distance.
And, you know, anything can happen, especially at hard golf courses. And,

Speaker 6 you know, that's kind of the perspective I had all week, you know, leading up to the U.S. Open was,

Speaker 6 you know, no matter where you're at. I mean, look at John Rahm.
I think he stuck around. He went off early and finished at four over.

Speaker 6 He even thought, like, I'm sure he was thinking the same thing going into Sunday. He's like, if I shoot three under par, I think he was starting the day at seven over.

Speaker 6 He's like, I can shoot four over and end up like

Speaker 6 maybe being in a playoff. And he did.
And he's, you know, that's, that's a perfect example of just kind of staying there, letting the pack come back, especially at the U.S. Open.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got a couple questions about your past, which are a very interesting story, you know, obviously going, you know, being pro for so long, going back to the Corn Ferry tour, and then coming, you know, climbing back up.

Speaker 1 But is it true that your mom, when she was pregnant with you, got permission from the doctor to keep golfing until she was eight months?

Speaker 1 So is this like one of those situations where like pregnant women like listen to like classical music to try to get the so you just were born to play golf because your mom was like, I love golf so much.

Speaker 1 I'm going to golf seven months pregnant, which is insane.

Speaker 6 Yeah. I mean, so yeah, that's a true story.
Um, there's this little part three executive course in South Pasadena, California called Aroyo Seiko.

Speaker 6 And she would, my, her, my dad, you know, that would be like her exercise on the weekend would go play, walk nine holes. She would play golf.

Speaker 6 And everyone, you know, there she is with a big old pregnant belly. And everyone's like, that kid's going to be a golfer, you know, like, cause everyone's like, what the hell?

Speaker 6 Like, this lady's playing golf. How do you even swing, you know, with this giant pot belly? But yeah, it was, it was pretty crazy how it's all manifested.
And,

Speaker 6 you know, thanks to my parents to kind of give me the ability. And maybe I got my swing from, you know, those motions in the womb, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
And the other one was, how much credit do we give the car that hit you when you were five years old to get you to stop skateboarding?

Speaker 1 Because that feels like a sliding doors moment where your dad was like, no more skateboarding. You just got hit by a car.

Speaker 1 You might have been the next Tony Hawk instead of the U.S. Open champion.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that freaked me out. That definitely kind of, you know, scared me as, you know, I definitely had scar tissue on what I was trying to accomplish skateboarding.

Speaker 6 You know, that was more of my bigger aspiration was to be a pro skater, be like Andrew Reynolds and Eric Ellington, Tony Hawk,

Speaker 6 you know, growing up. But yeah, it was crazy.
I was, I was, I could have, I couldn't be, I could possibly have not been sitting here right now if it was like one second sooner or later.

Speaker 6 I kind of went right under this car and literally was sitting under it. The lady thought she ran over a cat.

Speaker 6 You know, we were just, you know, kids, it's like 1995. Kids play out in the front yard.
And, you know, here I am rolling down the skateboard. I think I was like on my knee doing something stupid.

Speaker 6 And, you know, dad pulls me out. You know, everyone's screaming.
And dad pulls me out. I have all this grease and oil all over me.
And

Speaker 6 it's a crazy moment, crazy, crazy moment. But yep, I still kept skateboarding and still loved it.
But

Speaker 6 I'm glad I took golf over instead.

Speaker 1 You should find this woman and be like, thank you. You, you changed my life.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you showed me that I should stop skateboarding. Yeah.

Speaker 1 By running over me with your car. So you went underneath the car, like fully underneath.

Speaker 6 I remember pushing my feet, like trying to like somehow lift it off me. I mean, I can do that, but like, I'm just like, and I'm glad I didn't try to, you know, barrel roll or whatever, G.I.

Speaker 6 Joe crawl out of it.

Speaker 6 But it was, yeah, it was intense.

Speaker 3 I think that's the only thing that can prepare you for Oakmont. is getting hit by a car.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 How many guys have almost been run over by a car skateboarding and taken on Oakmont?

Speaker 3 No, yeah, you know, literally, not almost, you were

Speaker 3 fully run over by a car.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we got to find this woman.

Speaker 1 I would love to think, like, it'd be so awesome if this woman was watching the U.S. Open on Sundays.
Like, I hit that kid with a car. I did that.
I did that. I fucking ran over that kid with a car.

Speaker 3 How much credit do you give the read on 18?

Speaker 3 It was one of those moments, like, at the U.S. Open, you have to play great golf.
You need a little bit of luck. You were lucky enough to have a great read on your putt.

Speaker 3 Did the read actually change after you saw it was Hoveland, right?

Speaker 6 Right, it was Victor.

Speaker 3 Did you that change how you were approaching that putt?

Speaker 6 No, the only thing that I was trying to get feedback from it was

Speaker 6 like the pace.

Speaker 6 65 feet, I believe, around 64, 65 feet. I didn't have a putt that long all day.

Speaker 6 And it had just been raining for, you know, obviously the delay. And then it started raining again on us, our last two holes.
And so the greens are slower.

Speaker 6 And, you know, honestly, it was a great break to have to see how hard I had to hit the putt. And you can hear in the sound of the click how hard he hit it.

Speaker 6 You kind of saw, you know, the pace it took to get up. But also, once it got up on top of that ridge, it's kind of straight, like gently downhill as well.

Speaker 6 So for him to also hit a great putt to hit it, what, six feet by was huge too, because if he hit a shitty putt, like that teaches me absolute absolutely nothing and um

Speaker 6 you know i i was just focusing on putting a good stroke on it um you know luckily you know my lab putter i can literally hit it anywhere on the face and the distance control is great um so you know it was it was one of those comfort zones where i'd been putting great you know lag putting was great all week long and uh It's funny, we have a little practice round game with me and some of the boys I play with in my caddy where we do $100 makes during practice rounds.

Speaker 6 We just go to a crazy spot on the green on a practice round and just hit like 50, 60 footers. You make it, you get everyone owes you 100 bucks.

Speaker 6 So literally the last thing I did before I stepped into that routine was like $100 make.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And now Caddy owes me $100.

Speaker 1 This is a dumb question, but like if Victor Hovland, if he was like, hey, I'm still in this tournament. I know he was a few back.

Speaker 1 Could he have theoretically chipped that ball and not given you a read? Like, would that have been a really bad, like, unspoken rule for him to do that?

Speaker 1 But, like, it would have been incredible gamesmanship. He's like, I'm not giving this guy a read.
Oh, yeah. That

Speaker 6 would have been a dick move.

Speaker 6 But, I mean, this happened to Phil when Phil won his first major. I don't know if you remember that.
Chris DeMarco

Speaker 6 was in the front bunker and kind of, you know, hits his bunker shot two inches behind Phil's ball, maybe. I don't know exactly, but it was on the same line.

Speaker 6 And so he putted first and Phil had that putt to win. Not to, yeah, like he didn't need it to, but he had to make it.

Speaker 6 And even, you know, I think he kind of tapped him on the butt, too, you know, after the bunker shot was kind of like, thanks, because he knew what was coming, you know. And,

Speaker 6 you know, that's just the things that need to happen, you know, in major championships. And just to win tournaments, things got to go your way.

Speaker 6 And, you know, fortunately, I was on the receiving end of it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I remember Phil stepping in like real fast after he hit that putt, like getting right behind him. Does that go through your head?

Speaker 3 Like, I need to keep a respectful distance until he hits the putt and then I'm charging in.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I was probably 15 feet kind of to his, you know, his right.

Speaker 6 You know, it's kind of, he knows, I'm, he knows I'm there, but I'm not in his view.

Speaker 6 You know, you don't want him, you don't want to be behind him because he can be like, is this guy literally like two feet behind me? So, you know, I stood to the front of him, to the right.

Speaker 6 So he knew I was here, but I wasn't like, you know, sneaking up on him. But yeah, I rushed in there.
But But like I said,

Speaker 6 I saw where he rode it up the ridge, but I was mostly looking at the speed because we kind of knew where we had to play the putt as far as the line goes. But the speed was the most important part.

Speaker 1 I think I'm going to start petitioning for golfers to start chipping on the green just to fuck other golfers over. I think I need that to happen.
Like, why?

Speaker 1 It would have been an all-time moment if Ava was just like, no, dude, I'm not giving you this read.

Speaker 1 Like, if his best friend was second place, if he was best friends of of McIntyre or something, it was like, yeah, it's like almost like NASCAR driving. Like, I'm going to box you in here.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could have, I mean,

Speaker 6 might lose some friends, but I mean, we're not, at the end of the day, we're not all friends. We're here to kick each other's asses.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 You talked about your new putter. Has it ever occurred to you, maybe you should try the broomstick putter?

Speaker 6 Did you not see what I did Sunday?

Speaker 1 Before that.

Speaker 1 Good point. Yeah, no point.

Speaker 3 Before that, our golf expert just recently transitioned to a broomstick putter, and it's it's quite a look for a young man to be using a broomstick putter.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, well, when I started the year, I got this lab putter back during the offseason. My putting has always been like a very,

Speaker 6 you know, hot and cold sort of statistic for me.

Speaker 6 I'd been using a traditional blade-style putter where, you know, it's a lot of feel is involved, which I like. I like feel.

Speaker 6 But I was just thinking, how can I get better? And, you know, I was talking to Adam Scott last year at Colonial, and he's a lab golf ambassador.

Speaker 6 And he's, you know, played great since switching to the lab putter and

Speaker 6 kind of talked me into it. You got to get comfortable with the look first and foremost.
It's different because it's got zero torque and there's a lot of science behind the design. But,

Speaker 6 you know, I worked with it all offseason and put it in play at Sony.

Speaker 6 was leading Sony going into Sunday, ended up finishing third. But that was kind of

Speaker 6 the missing link to kind of putting more consistently, I guess.

Speaker 6 The biggest thing I took from it was

Speaker 6 how the technology in the putter

Speaker 6 in the DF3 that you can kind of hit it anywhere on the face because of the way it's designed, like

Speaker 6 it keeps the same speed up. So, and like speed is king when you're trying to like make putts.

Speaker 6 If you don't have the right speed, you're not going to hit, you're not going to hit the line that you're trying to and it's going to miss.

Speaker 1 So, how nice is it to have a putter where you feel like every time you stroke it no matter where you hit on the face it's going to have the same speed that you're trying to make the putt with so uh i think it's helped me become a more consistent putter as of late and uh you know it it was a good putt on on sunday as well so great putt yeah good yeah um all right i know you got to run in a second so a couple last questions uh the the story about the diabetes like you so you got diagnosed with diabetes two and then you keep losing weight and then you're like oh no whoops we screwed up you have diabetes one When you finally found that out, did you feel like so much better being like, oh my gosh, I can actually manage this now?

Speaker 1 And then was it, was it kind of the same timeline as you going back down to the corn ferry and then back up? Because in fact, I would assume there was a moment where you're like,

Speaker 1 am I just done? Am I cooked here? Yep.

Speaker 6 Yeah. So

Speaker 6 this was 2018. I was, that was my second year on tour.

Speaker 6 It was during the playoffs in August. And, you know, I've been a chubbier kid growing up.
I was never like, you know, thin. I was never worried about, you know, keeping weight on.

Speaker 6 It was always keeping weight off. And,

Speaker 6 you know, in August at the end of 2018, I was like noticing I went down to the last notch on my belt. And, you know, as far as tightening wise.
And I said, that's weird.

Speaker 6 Like, I've never had that issue. I always have to add a hole or two to fit into it.
But

Speaker 6 my. My wife, who was then my girlfriend, she's like, you need to just go to the doctor.
And it was weird because everyone's like, dude, you look good, man.

Speaker 6 You've been working out and stuff and i'm like no i've been drinking beer and just like eating whatever but thanks you know so i didn't step on a scale until you know the end of the year when i got back home and i literally the last time i weighed myself i was probably like 215

Speaker 6 and i weighed like 185 without even trying which you know the 215 was probably you know

Speaker 6 at the start of the season, the first third.

Speaker 6 So I ended up going to just a general physician and they did my labs like, oh, oh, yeah, you have diabetes, you know, your sugars through the roof and, you know, take some metformin and diet and exercise.

Speaker 6 I'm like, okay, I can diet better, but I mean, I exercise quite a bit. And so I did that for like three years.
And then I just kept losing weight because that's like one of the symptoms.

Speaker 6 If you don't produce any insulin, well, you don't have the,

Speaker 6 it's like a key to your cells where your food kind of goes into your body and produces energy.

Speaker 6 And so basically you're like in ketosis where you're just body is just eating the fat and like muscle and stuff to kind of stay alive So I did that for like three years and I weighed to like I went down to like 165 pounds.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and this was 2021 like in February and my friends a doctor He said go to an endocrinologist I had no idea He's like you need to do more extensive testing and they did like this beta cell, you know pancreas test where it detects how much insulin you have and basically they've determined I make zero insulin and you know, I have to be on insulin therapy.

Speaker 6 And that completely changed my life.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then you come back up and it was just like you're back to

Speaker 1 you get the PGA card back. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And then I, yeah, it transformed my game back to where it needed to be. And, you know, I think the

Speaker 6 physical and mental part, you know, overcoming that, getting comfortable again, you know, led me to where I'm at today.

Speaker 3 That's U.S. Open Champion.

Speaker 1 U.S. Open Champion.
Pretty cool. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 My last question is, there's a story of you going to like a local muni to

Speaker 1 practice because you wanted to kind of like get back to your roots. I'm going to be cynical.

Speaker 1 I think you were doing that because you could basically look at everyone and be like, at least I'm not that bad.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I just wanted to feel confident about myself. And I'm like, okay, these guys are out here as long as I am, and I can do better than that.
So it boosts my confidence a lot there.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's smart because everyone's like, oh man, he's a man of the people.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I feel like he might be doing this because, like, he could at least give himself some frame of reference of, like, hey, I'm not so bad. I'm like one of the best golfers in the world.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 6 Well, I appreciate it, boys. That was a blast.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Thanks so much, man. Best of luck.
Rest of the season.

Speaker 6 Thanks, dudes.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest, one of our good friends who just signed a new deal, which we have to congratulate him for. It is George Kittle,

Speaker 1 TEU coming up June 23rd to 25th. We're getting tight ends paid.
And George, you are the tip of the spear. You got paid big-time money.
Congratulations. Congratulations.
We're very happy for you.

Speaker 1 Are you setting the market? Yeah, are you? Are you setting the market?

Speaker 11 Setting the market. Hopefully it's something that Sam Laporta will cross next year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Sam Laporta, and then then you got Brock in a couple years.

Speaker 11 Yeah, there's a lot of guys that need to get paid. I'm excited about that.
So hopefully the next guy is getting over 20 million.

Speaker 1 That'd be pretty cool. Yeah.
What was it like, though, when you, because how much guaranteed money did you have?

Speaker 11 40.

Speaker 1 That's pretty sweet. Was that? So did that all go in at one point at one time?

Speaker 11 No, no, no, no. That's over the course of like two and a half years.

Speaker 1 Oh, where they don't give you all your guaranteed money right away? What was your signing bonus?

Speaker 11 basically i get this year and

Speaker 11 everything kind of hits i get the nice chunk that hits in september because the way that the way that like the money has been flowing and how we had we're still paying people i get a big chunk of my money in september okay that's great and that's gonna be awesome and you you can you can tell all the tight ends at teu like i had to do this deal for you guys it wasn't for me it was that you guys can get paid right it's for the boys yes that's that's all it is you know i just want to also say i'm so excited to be back on the show with you boys oh my God.

Speaker 11 Just a couple of beauties.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we missed you. We're going to see you in Tahoe as well, which I'm very excited about.

Speaker 1 You're, I mean, we'll do a cross promo. Like,

Speaker 1 you're golfing in the tournament. What do you expect out of yourself to be golfing in the tournament? You can't finish last.
I don't want you to finish last.

Speaker 11 No, I mean, hey, I shot, you know, I'm a low 90s golfer. I break, I break 90 every once in a while.
So I shot back-to-back rounds at 92s the last two days.

Speaker 11 So, you know, if I can just pull out one of those, I'll be so happy. And if I don't, my driver doesn't hit somebody in the face.

Speaker 1 I've started sensing this recently, like talking to different athletes. It's such bullshit the way they talk about their golf game, where if you ask an athlete, like, how, how are you at golf?

Speaker 1 They're like, oh, I suck. You know, I shoot in like, you know, 80s, low 90s.
Like,

Speaker 1 and I only play like a few times a year. It's like, that's bullshit, man.

Speaker 1 That's really good. Yeah, that's really good for only a few times a year.
You guys, turns out athletes are really good at playing sports.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it'd be, it's crazy crazy that if you know you're professional in something, you actually could be decent at other sports. That is a wild concept, isn't it?

Speaker 3 Yeah, the hand-eye coordination, it turns out that that transfers for you guys.

Speaker 1 It blows my mind every time. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I want to thank you, George.

Speaker 3 I want to thank you for making important stance online the other day because some people, including, I'm not going to name names, but there's some people maybe behind the glass that root for the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 3 No, I think, yeah, yeah, you're right. Hank was kind of a dick about it, but I'm mostly looking at

Speaker 3 Max.

Speaker 3 My new wide receiver, your former teammate,

Speaker 3 Debo Samuel, went a little bit viral. I was trying to explain to these guys that it's called a group install, and you jog through, and

Speaker 3 he's not trying to break any land speed records when he's running. You hopped online and tried to clear things up, but maybe you could educate America on how actually not fat Debo Samuel is.

Speaker 11 I'm just going to say this. Debo Samuel plays football.
He doesn't play springball, no pads football. Yep.
And if you look at his career highlights, when he has shoulder pads on,

Speaker 11 that's how he plays the game, which is the way it is structured for us to play the game.

Speaker 11 So like, I will say, like, media for the NFL from post-draft until the season starts, everyone's just looking for something to talk about because there's nothing to talk about.

Speaker 11 And so it's pretty brutal. And Debo just catches flack because, hey, he didn't have this season that, you know, his best season of his career last year and guys, people gave him flack for that.

Speaker 11 Debo's still Debo. He's, he's going to go out there.
He's going to truck sick people. He's going to make some insane plays that no one else can make.

Speaker 11 He's going to catch a screen pass, break four attacks, and go 60 yards of the house. So Debo's going to Debo.
That's just what it is.

Speaker 11 And so these people that are just talking shit about him, they can all, you know, F right off. Okay, so

Speaker 1 good answer. I noticed in that answer, though, Max, did you notice something? Did you notice there was one thing that was missing in that answer? Max?

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 11 Max, what was it? I didn't.

Speaker 1 This is you saying this. Well, okay, I'll say it.

Speaker 1 I noticed

Speaker 1 in that answer, you just did not address the fat Debo part.

Speaker 1 You just didn't say anything about fat Debo. It's power.
You said everything else, which all was good. And I agree, Debo's the man.
We're also pro-fat. We are pro-fat.
We're pro-fat.

Speaker 11 Debo has got big bones, fellas. Okay.

Speaker 1 He's got big bones.

Speaker 11 That's all it is. And again, it's like, you know, when, yeah, he might have hibernated, you know, in the offseason, but he'll be ready to go for training camp.
I promise you that much.

Speaker 1 Okay, we are a pro-fat podcast. So that's so true.

Speaker 3 I like to imagine that when Max says it, he's spelling a PH,

Speaker 1 Fat, with a PH, fat Debo.

Speaker 3 And listen, you got to have some junk in the trunk if you're going to play football, right? That's what Belichick, Kirby Smart, they look at guys' asses. They're like, I want a guy that's got a motor.

Speaker 1 That's facts.

Speaker 11 Is your ass your motor? That's kind of nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. No, he's facts.

Speaker 3 He is one of my favorite players to watch play football when he has the ball in his hand. And I'm just excited that I get to root for him.

Speaker 3 But yeah, you were kind of a part of that this offseason, too. Just a lot of news.
People want to read about you.

Speaker 3 Is that strange, like having the world know that you're going into contract negotiations and speculate on how much money you're going to get paid?

Speaker 11 Oh, dude, when I was at the Super Bowl in New Orleans, I'm doing like the media circuit, and I just get asked about my contract.

Speaker 11 I'm like, I don't know if we've even had any discussions yet, but sure, we can talk about something that has nothing to do with you guys.

Speaker 11 I'm like a blast. Yeah.

Speaker 11 It is weird. It is weird, but it's like, then I get asked about Brock Purdy's contract.
I'm like, I don't fucking know shit about his contract. Don't ask me.

Speaker 11 Like, I'm just his teammate that watches him play. He should get paid, but I don't know any details.

Speaker 1 Why are you asking me yeah that's got to be the the more awkward one the brock purdy where it's like because i i assume there's an unspoken rule in the locker room where it's like hey no one talk about someone else's money here like you know george's got to get paid brock's got to get paid to be the guy to stand up and be like and not and like get involved in any way is just a bad move in a locker room it's just weird like i know i learned early on in my career it's like don't talk for other people let them say what they want to say uh like you can always give it you know hey brock works really hard he's a great great teammate.

Speaker 11 He deserves a contract, but like the nickel and diamond stuff like that, nah, it's just bad ball. Just don't talk about it because you're going to put your foot in your mouth at some point.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Last season,

Speaker 1 season from hell for the 49ers in terms of you guys obviously have been really good, really competitive for basically your entire time there.

Speaker 1 But last season, it felt like not the end of something, but it was just everything that could have gone wrong went wrong for the 49ers. And

Speaker 1 you could just feel that.

Speaker 1 is that is it like hey we can just it's almost better like we can flush the entire season and it was there a moment during the season where you're like fuck man we can't catch a single break i would say early on in the season we lost back-to-back divisional games and i was like

Speaker 11 we're gonna have to really figure something out here like to be able to even go on a run and then we had that diabolical run of like at green bay at buffalo and just got our shit pushed in and it was like

Speaker 11 yep, that's going to be a tough one. Like, if you give up 150 yards rushing and then you are like 10% on third downs, that's just kind of hard to win a football game.

Speaker 11 So I will say the one benefit to like not making the playoffs is that was my first January off since 2020. And so I took it and I think the team took it as a big refresher.

Speaker 11 And I will say that like when everybody came back to OTAs and like everybody was in attendance for the first time in since 2019, everybody was really fired up to play football.

Speaker 11 So it kind of like gets that hunger going a little bit earlier. So it was kind of fun for that, but missing the playoffs absolutely sucks.

Speaker 11 But if you got to find some positive out of it, I did get an extra month just to kind of recover. And now my body feels fantastic.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's got to be great. You guys either make, you guys ever make the NFC championship game or you don't make the playoffs.
That's kind of the only thing that you do.

Speaker 11 What is that statistic? That makes no sense. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 I don't know. Once you guys get in, you're forced to be reckoned with.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe you can tell us, like,

Speaker 3 what is it about you guys you get in the playoffs? You're confident.

Speaker 11 It's a confidence thing.

Speaker 11 And then, I mean, I look back like the 2021 season when we snuck into the seventh scene, we had to win like our last three games, and then we somehow went into Lambo and beat the one seed.

Speaker 11 I would just say that, like, what we've pride ourselves on is being very violent and very gritty. Um, and then we let like you know, our superstars be flashy.

Speaker 11 And when you had a guy like McCaffrey, he could be all flashy and be super pretty and stuff, but he's still a gritty ass dude.

Speaker 11 So, it's kind of fun to just kind of be that team that guys people don't want to face in the playoffs.

Speaker 11 And yeah, like you said, whenever we get in there, we do a pretty good job of winning the first couple.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you you were saying earlier that

Speaker 3 you were saying earlier that Hank is a dick. Um, some people

Speaker 3 so, specifically with Hank, I don't know if you listened to part of my take during the season, probably not advisable for you to do that.

Speaker 11 Um, I always listen to Mondays, always no matter what.

Speaker 3 Did you hear any of the news that uh well, I can't say it was Hank that was not Hank, it was not him, it was the walls at

Speaker 3 Barcelona Sports. They were talking about Christian McCaffrey not coming back to play football, retiring, retiring last year, yeah.

Speaker 3 Uh, yeah, did you hear any of that, Anything from the walls inside your program?

Speaker 11 Uh, I heard it from my Hank was actually just sending me DMs about how I should tell McCaffrey to retire. He was just,

Speaker 11 I don't know, did you have like money on him retiring or something, Hank? Is that what this is?

Speaker 1 No, I just he just heard never reported that either. The walls reported it, and he oh, it was one of those ones where Hank just got it was almost.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna defend Hank, I'm gonna defend Hank for a second. Don't defend him, don't defend Hank.
Here's how I'm gonna defend Hank. No, thank you.
Here's how I'm going to defend Hank.

Speaker 1 Hank happened to be in a conversation where he heard it, where if PFT and I were in that conversation, we would have done the same walls reporting that Hank did. He just like

Speaker 1 wrong time, wrong place to be in the Christian McCaffrey Might Think About Retiring conversation. I also said it in a way where I was like, this is actually 100% off the record.

Speaker 1 We can't talk about it. And then, because I was like, there's no way it's true.
This is a complete bullshit rumor that I heard. Like, I'm not

Speaker 1 valid enough to say. And then.

Speaker 11 then dig yourself out of the hole. I like it.

Speaker 1 And then I just got thrown under the bus per usual. That's how it happened.
Yeah, yeah. So, Hank, did you? I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. So, Hank ever was,

Speaker 1 were you ever like, hey, I'm kind of tuned into the NFL media and this one podcast is

Speaker 1 saying you might retire, Christian? Is that true?

Speaker 11 I brought it up to him almost daily just for fun, just to piss him off.

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah, let's light a fire under Christian's ass.

Speaker 11 He doesn't really need it, but the more motivation he gets, the scarier he is. So I believe

Speaker 11 he's going to have a fun year this year. Did you? If you're a fantasy coach, I would draft him.

Speaker 1 Okay, but there's a lot of people who are,

Speaker 1 they got really badly burned last year.

Speaker 1 They did. Did he feel?

Speaker 1 Could you sense any remorse from him where he's like, I really, like, yeah, obviously I missed a lot of for my teammates and for the team and the franchise.

Speaker 1 But really, what's sad about this injury is everyone who drafted me number one overall.

Speaker 11 Yeah, no, I think that's all he thought about the whole year. I think he sent individual messages to each person who drafted him one overall and apologized.
I think that's what he did.

Speaker 3 Class act.

Speaker 1 Class act. That's huge.

Speaker 3 Can you make a case to Jerry O'Connell that if he does draft Christian McCaffrey for us this year, that you will block extra hard for him? Yeah.

Speaker 11 Well, the nice thing about when you have Christian McCaffrey at running back, it makes my job way easier because of how he sets up blocks and stuff like that.

Speaker 11 So when you have a guy like Christian, he actually makes our entire O-line and tight ends better.

Speaker 11 So yeah, we're all going to block our asses off for him and he's going to have another fantastic season. Yeah.

Speaker 3 One thing I love about you and I love about the tight ends is what you've done with tight End University, TEU, where you get together and it feels like you guys are all kind of picking each other up, helping each other out.

Speaker 3 I don't know if Trey McBride is going to be there this year, but he is.

Speaker 3 So I was wondering, like, across the league in the fraternity of tight ends last year, when he just couldn't get a touchdown for whatever reason, he was like playing really, really well.

Speaker 3 He's playing great football.

Speaker 1 Amazing.

Speaker 3 But he couldn't score for some reason. Were you guys all rooting for Trey to get a touchdown, even though he's in the same division as you? Were you like, come on, man, this is bigger than just

Speaker 3 the Cardinals against the the 49ers. It's about the position of the tight end.

Speaker 11 Oh, dude, I remember, I think I hit him up like week 13 or 14. I was like, Trey, just tell Kyler to throw you the ball four straight times: first, second, third, and fourth down.

Speaker 11 Like, you just got to get in there because once you get one, then it just kind of rolls. But Larry, getting that, getting that first or second touchdown just takes forever.

Speaker 11 It was, uh, I'm happy for him that he ended the year with a couple. So hopefully he'll, he'll start off this year pretty hot, is my guess.
Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 1 So, so, tight end you coming up next week. Uh, we talked to to Greg Olson about it as all, as well.

Speaker 1 Very excited. Next year, hopefully we're going to be able to make it.
We have a golf tournament this year. What do we got planned for this year? Anything new? Any new wrinkles? Because it is great.

Speaker 1 And tight ends, I went through the stats with Olson when he came on. You guys are just getting paid way more.
And

Speaker 1 what you're doing is working.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I mean, I think since 2019, it's jumped up over $10 million. So that's doing pretty good.

Speaker 11 Whatever we are doing, it it is working you know titanium has been great just bringing guys together um you know you got rookies running routes with travis kelsey you got young guys in the same line as dallas clark and rob gronkowski so it's just it's that that itself is pretty fun and you know if guys just take a couple things from tight and you whether it's like something about a route something about techniques something about their lifestyle uh that they learn and it helps them out a little bit you know that's all we really care about you know just it

Speaker 11 uh what i would say is just evolving the position you know as we as we play the game together yeah Yeah.

Speaker 3 So, um, is there a class that you guys are doing this year about how to cash in on being a professional wrestler? If things are like towards the end of your career, make that transition?

Speaker 11 Um, you know what? I think Triple H said he might stop by for a class. I don't know.

Speaker 11 Uh, hopefully, maybe if not this year, maybe next year, I can get a WWE guy in there and explain, you know, we'll get a wrestling ring up and just have auditions. We'll have the WWE tryout there.

Speaker 11 Yeah. That would be actually, that would be actually incredible.
I think, yeah, I would watch that. I would be a part of that, actually.

Speaker 3 I do think that tight ends are the most ready-made for the transition into WWE. Is that going to be your career after football? You know what?

Speaker 11 Whatever door is open, I'm not saying no to much. Whatever happens, happens.
You know, I might need a couple managers like the Paul Bearer. You guys could definitely do that for me, I bet.

Speaker 3 Say less.

Speaker 1 Hey, what point of the offseason are you like, all right, let's go, ready for football? Or is that like, as you're getting, you know, older, you're, you're later in your career.

Speaker 1 Does that still exist where you're like, hey, at this point, let's call it, you know, late June, maybe July 4th. You're like, all right, July 4th is over.
Let's go. I want to play some football.

Speaker 11 I would say that like the itch or the anxiety of like trying, you know, wanting to be in shape and ready, that usually hits me in like,

Speaker 11 I would say end of March, early April. And then it just gets worse and worse as the rest of the summer goes on.
You can ask my wife, she just, she's like, you need to take a deep breath.

Speaker 11 I'm like, I don't want to take a deep breath. I just want to work out and do cardio and catch a lot of footballs.
But it just keeps

Speaker 11 escalating and escalating and escalating until rely is like i feel like you could ask any nfl football player i would say a majority of them say that like not like a triple in anxiety but like thinking about it every single day that's about all you can do for the entire month of july that's very real yeah it's very real the the the people say it's it's basically like the two weeks before camp feels like the the night before first day of school where you're just sitting there like oh shit like we got first day of school coming up damn it damn it damn it and like all right here we go yep that's that's really it It's just like, did I train enough?

Speaker 11 Did I catch enough footballs? Did I work out enough? Uh, have I studied enough? Am I ready to go?

Speaker 11 And then when you get back to training camp, you know, training camps, training camp, it's incredibly hard.

Speaker 11 But once you get, once you get back into it, then you find your, you find your rhythm again pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 Do you love the first day when you get the pads on? Because you are a violent guy. You like to be violent.
Is that like a relief? Like, hey, we're actually now playing football.

Speaker 11 Dude, I hate OTAs because it's not football. Like, I can't stand it because then like, I'll get like coached on the run game.
And I'm like, I'm run blocking without shoulder pads on.

Speaker 11 That is how you play the game. I'm like, I'm not going to change that.
Like, I'm not going to change my technique to be able to block without pads on. When pads come on, then I'm blocking it.

Speaker 11 And that's how I know how to do it. So, yes, I love the first day of pads.

Speaker 11 And then the only time I ever like practicing without shoulder pads is like in the season when you're kind of just, you know, jog throughing plays and just kind of learning.

Speaker 11 But when it comes to competing, yeah, I give me the shoulder pads and let me be at my best because I'm pretty pretty good at that yeah otherwise you're you're jogging through plays you're doing group install there's a lot of group install baby no it's just not the same man and your guys like to take film from that and you know critique it it's just not the same yeah yeah i would want i would want to be one of those guys max that's right have you uh have you hit anybody this offseason have i hit anybody this offseason you know i did get to do some i get to do some run blocking stuff at trent williams you know he was at our mini camp stuff so we got a pad in front of us we got to you know run off and hit that but no i have not got to hit anybody very hard yet so so that that'll be coming i can't wait yeah i imagine that you probably miss that i would miss that violence is coming yeah

Speaker 3 i like that that's a great tagline for the 2025 niner season violence is coming

Speaker 1 yeah i mean

Speaker 1 i'm really excited about it i just like looking at your guys's faces you're just so adorable hey what did uh has has brock purdy bought anything awesome with the money because he's like you uh you obviously had gotten paid a little bit he he literally went from getting nothing in relative terms to a starting quarterback to getting paid a lot of money do you think he he bought anything special or did anything like a new tractor or something

Speaker 11 um

Speaker 11 the tractor thing i don't think he has to buy those i think he gets those for free okay um i would say you know he said he wanted to buy like a big fishing boat which he definitely that's what he likes to do in his spare time is like to fish and be out on the water uh he did you know he did purchase a Nashville Tennessee a house so he'll be kind of a neighbor to me at some point which would be pretty fun because I actually have a quarterback that that can throw to me all the time that's actually on my team so i'm excited about that so i think i think that counts as a big purchase right yeah that's you yeah buying a house have you guys yeah you made any upgrades to the barn dude the barn is continually growing and getting bigger so uh no like structural but uh a lot of new jerseys equipment clean it out it's uh it's a full nfl facility now boys it's a good time yeah i mean the football field that you have behind your barn is everything that i wanted as like an eight-year-old growing up you live in like an eight-year-old paradise, which is

Speaker 11 oh, dude, it's so much fun.

Speaker 11 It just, I literally have one side of my barn, I have my, we eat breakfast, then you go to the gym, you work out, you go to the field, you run routes, you do your sprint training, and then you come back in and we have an N64 hooked up.

Speaker 11 We play Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart. That's the absolute.

Speaker 3 But you got to, I think next step is get a tattoo chair in there. You know what?

Speaker 11 I have been tattooed in the barn before. So that's how I got, what is it? My one of my hand tats was in the barn.
So yeah, we got everything in there. I even have a barber that shows up to the barn.

Speaker 3 That's awesome. Do you have any new ink for the season?

Speaker 11 I did just get,

Speaker 11 I got Sauron from Lord of the Rings done a couple of weeks, I mean, a couple months ago, which I was pretty excited about.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 How long did that one take?

Speaker 11 I think we did like a seven-hour session one day, and then we did like a three-hour session the next day.

Speaker 3 Were you sedated for it, or were you awake?

Speaker 11 No, I was very awake. My tattoo artist, I have

Speaker 11 one in Indianapolis, and he has a very good technique.

Speaker 11 His name's Cody, and he has a very good technique where like honestly like it was the least painful tattoo i've ever had in my life i was just kind of sitting there and the thing is too like i'm sitting there streaming but not streaming but like i'm playing pokemon on my laptop because i play like a randomizer it's called kaizo iron mouth pokemon i'm not i'm a nerd i know i'm sorry but uh i'm playing that for like eight hours where they get tattooed so it's pretty easy what what is the game Pokemon.

Speaker 11 It's so it's like you're playing like the original Pokemon game. Okay.
Except like they made a ROM hack for it.

Speaker 11 And it has the first three generations of all the Pokemon all in like fire, fire red, and then it's all randomized.

Speaker 11 So, like, if you go to Professor Oak and you'll go to the three Pokeballs, it could be like a Dragon Knight, a Ratta Tata, and a Charmander.

Speaker 11 And then the game will tell you which one you have to pick, and you have to take that Pokemon, and you have to beat the entire game with just that one Pokemon.

Speaker 11 And if you die, you have to restart the entire game.

Speaker 3 Have you ever played Dungeons and Dragons?

Speaker 11 You know what?

Speaker 11 Very mildly, like four or five years ago, but like i have not gotten into it we got to get you into

Speaker 11 a game with us i feel like you would enjoy it yeah i would definitely enjoy it i mean if if it's anything like stranger things i'll have a great time yeah without like the without the underworld place that looks the upside down that looks scary are you still watching stranger things i'm i'm sorry they just took too long it took too long um i whenever the newest season comes out i will watch it because i think it's very it's very fun to watch yeah i like it i loved the first two or three seasons and then first three first three were incredible then it just took a a while for the next two to come out and then the kids got old i was like this is kind of different and i don't know it's a different vibe it's a very different vibe anytime that it goes from like just kids being friends to then you have to add in like a romantic thing it's just it's a little it's a little bit different but i still like the show and i'm excited to see what they do with it i mean i thought last season was really fun i mean the what's the guys bad guys vega or whatever that guy was he was scary all right i got to get back into it um all right yeah what are we talking about tight and you yeah tighten you before before we let you go though I want to do

Speaker 1 sphere review.

Speaker 11 Let me be here all day, please.

Speaker 1 Sphere review.

Speaker 1 You were at the same show as me. I missed you by like two seconds.
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 I look down. I see you.
I think you were with Jushek and Christian McCaffrey. You were having the time of your life.
And I was like, oh, shit, I'm going to go say hi to my best bud, George.

Speaker 1 And then I get down there and you had went up to your suite. So I missed you.
But it was, was it everything you thought? Like, it's the coolest thing, right?

Speaker 11 I mean, Grateful Grateful Dead at the Sphere is one of the coolest things I've ever done because I went back the following weekend as well to another show. Yes.
And I brought my wife that time too.

Speaker 11 It was an incredible experience. Like, they just know how to throw a concert.
And the sphere is just, I went to Kenny Chesney two weeks ago at the Sphere, too. Incredible.

Speaker 11 It's just, there's nothing like it. Like, you can't compare it to any concert because it's just a completely different vibe.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was, it was awesome. Did you end up going to Diplo after?

Speaker 11 I did go to Diplo. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was, um, that was the test of my friendship with you. And it was, just so you know, like, I actually thought about it for a second, which is crazy because you texted me.

Speaker 1 You're like, hey, we're going to Diplo after the sphere. Do you want to come? And I was like, I was already in bed.
And I was like, ah, I love you so much.

Speaker 1 And I want to hang out with you, but I don't think I can do that.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 11 It's a beast. I know.
And I'm not really up for it.

Speaker 11 I like. day drinking and then going to bed at a good time.
So the next day I can do it again. I don't really like staying up till 3 a.m.
That's terrible, but I love EDM music as well.

Speaker 11 And so any chance I have to see Marshmello or Diplo, I'm like, and then like Chain Smokers, like, I'll go see that any day of the week. Like, I'll go listen to those guys.

Speaker 11 Yeah, you're like music, man.

Speaker 1 You're built different, too. I would imagine that would be the one positive of getting that anxiety you talked about, getting into shape.

Speaker 1 Once you're into that peak shape, you could probably hang and party longer because you're like, you're just a beast.

Speaker 11 I can drink a few beers this offseason. I have, I have upped that counter on my, on my resume.
I've done that. I've deleted, thank God, Bud Light is a good sponsor.
There we go.

Speaker 11 We have Bud Light.

Speaker 11 You know, I just, and then I need to rehydrate after a long night.

Speaker 3 Love that.

Speaker 11 S Gatorade water. And then, you know what, two in the morning, I can just use some old spice, smell really good, and maybe even use some dude wipes.
Like, why would I not do that?

Speaker 3 Dude wipes is huge for the, for the morning after. Yes.

Speaker 1 It's, it's huge.

Speaker 11 You know, you just, you need that.

Speaker 11 You know, and maybe just, you know, maybe if, you know, it's a little groggy in the morning, my eyes serious, I'll just throw on a nice new era baseball cap and, you know, I'll just protect my eyes and my face from the sunny rays that's great and then if it's like sunny outside and you go outdoors you don't want to wear pants right no so i might as well get some shorts from chubbies so i can tan these nice long legs that's my wife loves but wait did you just not did you not eat anything in this entire like recoup oh you know what the good thing is

Speaker 11 what's great after a long night is a good sandwich from jersey mics

Speaker 3 okay fantastic anything you want yeah if you're logging online to order your jersey mics what how can you get the internet in remote locations like your barn?

Speaker 11 That I use Starlink.

Speaker 1 Oh, not Google Fiber. Okay.
Is Google Fiber not a sponsor?

Speaker 6 I think Google is a sponsor.

Speaker 11 It's not on the list I have written down in front of me right now. So my marketing team is probably like, no, just say yes.
I'm going to say yes.

Speaker 1 Did we hit all of them or is there any left?

Speaker 11 Kinder, which is like a barbecue steak thing, and they're providing great food for the boys.

Speaker 11 Let me see if there's anything else off the top of my head.

Speaker 11 i don't know the only other thing i really have to do on the show is i was in wisconsin a couple weeks ago with one of my buddies he owns a lake house like uh it's in whataca yeah wapaca and it's a sick lake house and one of the guys one of the we're at a restaurant and this probably like 18 year old is like dude greg i can't wait to see you on part of my take again i'm like hey well enough i'm in in like eight days he was like will you say hi to me i'm like sure jack from wapaca i'll say hi to you on part of my take that's about all else i had for you yeah you nailed that that was a great thing

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Speaker 1 So wait,

Speaker 3 one of your sponsors called Tinder?

Speaker 1 Kinder. Tinder.

Speaker 3 Oh, okay. I thought you said Tinder.
Kinder. I said that'd be a different sponsor entirely.

Speaker 11 It's going down.

Speaker 1 Kinder's cooking.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, I got one left.
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Speaker 1 Give me a prediction for the 49ers in 2025.

Speaker 11 Prediction.

Speaker 11 This is how I see it. We had a ton of guys leave.
We have a lot of turnover. We lost all pro players.
We lost Pro Bowl players. Debo, Aaron Banks went to the, our left guard went to the Packers.

Speaker 11 Charvarius Ward, one of my favorite teammates, Locker Buddy.

Speaker 11 He went to the Colts. Hargrave went to the Vikings.
Hafunga and Dre Greenlaw go to the Broncos. So yeah, we're very aware that we lost some players.

Speaker 11 But from the way that we did free agency, I like the guys that we brought in for that. We just traded for Bryce Suff from the Eagles.
He is a very fast athletic defensive end.

Speaker 11 And then the way that we drafted, we have a very good chance to be a good team.

Speaker 11 We need the young guys to mature really fast and step up because if they don't and they get hit with that rookie wall at some point, it can be tough at some points.

Speaker 11 But I feel like we brought most of our offense back and we should be able to score points because we basically went an entire season without Christian McCaffrey, you know, offensive MVP two years ago.

Speaker 11 And so now that he's back, pair him with myself, Kyle Yuschek, Juwan Jennings, IU, Ricky Piersall. Trent Williams is still pretty good too, I heard.
You know, I don't know, but he's still pretty good.

Speaker 11 So I think we're going to win some football games and it's going to be pretty fun.

Speaker 3 Okay. Violence is coming.

Speaker 1 I'm buying the $49 as a bounce back team.

Speaker 11 I would buy that, especially too, like when you get that extra month off, it definitely makes you want to not ever experience that again.

Speaker 11 And you would much rather be late into the playoffs and the Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
I'll be looking for it. All right.
George, you're the best. We'll see you in a couple weeks in Tahoe.

Speaker 11 Oh, my gosh. I'm literally going to tackle you both.
I cannot wait.

Speaker 1 I'm not looking forward to it. No, that's what I would like to see.
Oh, no, you asked me. You're like, hey, have you hit anybody? I'm going to hit you guys.

Speaker 1 I'll be ready.

Speaker 1 Max, you better stop him. I'll be ready.
You better stop him.

Speaker 11 Is Hank coming?

Speaker 1 Hank will be there.

Speaker 11 Oh, Hank, you're so fucked.

Speaker 1 It's basically like, who's going to get hit first? Because the other two can run away.

Speaker 11 No, I think I'm just going to chest bump Max. Okay.
So I'm going to chest bump him and then maybe tabletop him later that night.

Speaker 1 Okay, perfect. That sounds funny.
I love that. Maybe we'll pants him.
Ooh. Dick out pants would be so funny.

Speaker 11 It's funny when people just, they grab like. the back pocket and just tear the jeans all the way down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we can do that. Oh, yeah, yeah.
We used to do that. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I want to do that to hank after i tackle him maybe a wedgie

Speaker 11 yeah i'll see if i'll ask christian what what he wants me to do to you hank okay yeah yeah the walls not not not yeah you're you're you're getting out of the wrong guy but if i if i could come or if i can come to the studio at some point and i'm just gonna punch a hole in the drywall

Speaker 1 this one's for christian we would frame it hank hank actually did that one time yeah with his foot he did yeah i remember that actually that was

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Thanks so much, George. Love you.

Speaker 3 Love you, George.

Speaker 1 So, y'all know that we're big fans of Cracker Barrel. And this holiday season, I will be sat at their table with a big plate of country-fried turkey.

Speaker 4 And, Brandon, I'll be right there with you, and I'll check it off my Christmas list in the country store while I'm at it. It'll make a nice holiday tradition.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's so cute of you.

Speaker 4 Enjoy all the more holiday traditions only at Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 12 Man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 13 When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 12 That's where Snickers comes in, man. That thing is packed: roasted peanuts, nuggets, caramel, milk, chocolate.
It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 12 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this: Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 13 Snickers satisfies, man.

Speaker 11 That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. Partner take.

Speaker 1 Listener submitted.

Speaker 1 Henry, Henri.

Speaker 1 You got us something? Yeah, I do. Okay.

Speaker 1 For Zach. Oh.
Mount Rushmore of Professional Sports Playoffs. Oh.
You got four.

Speaker 1 Well, no, you go MLS.

Speaker 1 Well, no, you have four choices. It could be any sport.
Yeah, yeah, Mount Rushmore, yeah.

Speaker 3 Okay, so

Speaker 3 I'm going to go football 1-1.

Speaker 3 I'm going to go basketball 1-2.

Speaker 3 I'm going to go...

Speaker 3 I'll go hockey 1-3.

Speaker 1 I'll go.

Speaker 1 Can I put World Cup in there? Oh.

Speaker 3 So no baseball.

Speaker 1 Not a baseball guy.

Speaker 3 I would like to go World Cup 4 if that's okay. Wow.

Speaker 1 That's not a bad pick.

Speaker 3 I think I would have put Stanley Cup above NBA playoffs.

Speaker 1 I would have put Stanley Cup two. Well, this is your Mount Rush one.
Yeah, that's fair. I would have gone

Speaker 1 NFL, Stanley Cup.

Speaker 1 I actually might go playoff baseball three.

Speaker 3 It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Playoff baseball is like, because it's the drama of like every at-bat.

Speaker 1 Does March Madness count? Oh, March Madness. Yeah.
All right. March Madness is my two.

Speaker 1 Actually, March Madness is my one. March Madness is the best.
Marsh Madness is my one, then NFL, then Stanley Cup. Oh, did it say pro? Did it say pro? It did say pro.
Oh, I thought it got it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because that would have been a big mistake.
Because Marshall Madness, if it was pro and college, it would be March Madness number one. For sure.

Speaker 1 Now that downfield laterals have become become a thing, thank you, PFT, the NFL should award assist for anyone who successfully laterals a ball that the play ends in a touchdown.

Speaker 1 This would promote more laterals and specialists with those skills would become valuable throughout the league. I like that.
It's a good idea.

Speaker 3 I also think that you should get an additional five yards if you catch a pass where you're getting interfered. Like an end one.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go opposite on this. I'm going to say no.
I don't like that.

Speaker 3 Well, it's just a meaningless stat.

Speaker 1 Well, and it's, I'm just thinking about it from gambling brain. It's a meaningless thing that I'll throw into a parlay and lose.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you definitely will. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I don't need another thing that I can lose on. Yeah.
Amon Ross, St.

Speaker 3 Brown, plus 150 to throw lateral assist. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's just, I can just do this every week. I can just see us sitting here in like late October being like, all right, what do we got for our

Speaker 1 ass than that? That would be, that would be two. It'd be like 900.

Speaker 3 And PFT, but you, you get a couple Dan Campbell games where he throws it, he like empties the bag, and then you're like, oh, he's definitely going to have one again.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit, it goes to 30 to 1 if if we throw in Travis Kelsey, assist,

Speaker 1 and then we just lose. So, no.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure this person was just incepted from this show because I feel like you said this exact take that each NBA team should get to adjust where their three-point line is to create home court advantage each season.

Speaker 1 They can move it on the left if they have a dominant left-handed dribbler, move it in everywhere if they want to focus on mid-range or create a team of bigs, or move it way back if they have great shooters.

Speaker 1 Every game would be played differently based on where the three-point line is, would be exciting to watch. I think we said it with Kirk Goldsbury, maybe.
But yes, this would be awesome.

Speaker 3 Different dimensions, like in baseball. Yeah.
This would be so sick. It would also be like incredibly unfair, but it would be cool.
You actually do it for the NBA Cup.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you also,

Speaker 1 like, if you move it, the strategy would be so interesting because you could also,

Speaker 1 it doesn't have to be just you have good three-point shooters.

Speaker 1 Like, what if you have a dominant, like, big, moving the three-point line out, like, two feet, so it just gives you a little more space where guys can't recover. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I would like to watch that. Maybe for a week.
Yeah, Adam Silver, you won't fucking do it. Do it in the cup, bitch.
Do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they change the court anyway. And they reveal it like right before the game.
Like, oh, tonight, the Warriors are going with a 34-footer.

Speaker 1 Steph is the only one shooting them.

Speaker 1 That'd be sick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, little man.

Speaker 1 Big-bellied cat, A-Cup honkers, and Italian pervert. I'm sick of people comparing Scotty Scotty to Tiger and saying he's on a tear no one has seen before.

Speaker 1 The PGA is weakened with the amount of players that live, and the only time he plays competition is at majors. Tiger Woods, with everyone scoring terrible at U.S.

Speaker 1 Open on Sunday, would have posted a score that would have made people sweat to match it.

Speaker 1 Also, Scotty can't match Tiger's Aura as he doesn't have a fuck island and a caddy that throws cameras into the pond. Thoughts? Okay,

Speaker 1 there's a lot there. One is you can't say Tiger's aura with the fuck stuff because he won a lot more before the fuck stuff than after.

Speaker 1 Tiger did have aura, but it was different aura. It was unbeatable aura.
It wasn't like he's cool. He fucks chicks.
It was he just wins every tournament.

Speaker 3 He was doing the fuck stuff, but we didn't know him.

Speaker 1 No, yeah.

Speaker 3 In the moment, that's not why Tiger's Aura was whatever. Correct.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 1 Two, I don't think we've said Scotty, maybe other people have, is...

Speaker 1 doing something like we've never seen before. I don't think we've ever seen before.

Speaker 1 There's stats. There's definitely stats that have been brought up.
We've all seen that. And people do say that when he wins.
It's like

Speaker 1 it's always, no one's done this since Tiger.

Speaker 3 We brought up the other stat where it's like Scotty would have to do this for 10 years to get to Tiger's number.

Speaker 1 That's also just

Speaker 1 our dumb sports brains where if you've seen something incredible, you basically spend the rest of your life being like, man, I want this next thing to be exactly like that incredible thing.

Speaker 1 Like almost wishing it, hoping it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because the alternative is we're never going to like golf again because Tiger was so good that he broke golf. Right.
But yeah,

Speaker 3 I understand that.

Speaker 1 you're not like i will i will grant you that there's nobody out there that's playing that you watch them compete and you get that same feeling that you got with tiger except for brooks obviously yeah and max did you guys see brooks but it's like it's like michael jordan like basically you know spawned basketball in europe like now european players are really good like tiger spawned all these really good golfers he didn't have to play against them though but they were all inspired by him and and so the the fields in general are way better yeah yeah but that's because of tiger just Just putting it.

Speaker 1 It's kind of the same as MJ, where it's like he wasn't, he didn't have to play against that much European competition. True.
Because they all got inspired from the Olympics.

Speaker 1 But just to put it into perspective, I mean, we talked so much about Rory getting the career Grand Slam. Tiger did that in one year.
He literally did that in 2000 when he had, he won the PGA U.S.

Speaker 1 Open, the Open Championship, and then in 2001 won the first tournament in the Masters. And that's insane.
He went four straight. So, yeah, there's never going to be another Tiger.
Maybe Charlie.

Speaker 1 Maybe definitely Charlie.

Speaker 3 Let's say definitely Charlie. Double Tiger.
All right.

Speaker 1 I am going to pardon your guy's take, this guy's take here because it's just dead wrong. Oh, no.
Biggest theory right now is the MLB is in the MLB.

Speaker 1 I believe the reason traded Devers and his contract so they can make a play to trade for Paul Skeens and pay him and lock him up early.

Speaker 1 They have all the young pieces and money now to do so, and the Pirates always

Speaker 1 trade away aces.

Speaker 3 So that's copium.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Which I don't. You have to have copium right now, which is there has to be a reason why we did this stupid thing.

Speaker 1 But if you were so following this guy's logic, wouldn't have you, wouldn't you have

Speaker 1 Devers for more, like, better prospects? Yeah. You would have traded Devers not for current starting pitching and relieving pitching.

Speaker 1 You would have traded Devers for like guys that could end up being awesome and then saying, hey, Pirates, look at all these guys that could end up being awesome.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think a lot of the criticism of the Devers trade is that you traded Devers. You didn't really get that much in return for him, at least what other teams have gotten for great sluggers.

Speaker 3 And you probably also did it because your owner is cheap, and maybe your owner was just upset that he got blown off when he went to meet him.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Wait, that was part of the story? Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, what was it? He didn't answer a text message.

Speaker 3 I think John Henry made a trip to have a face-to-face conversation with him. Like, hey, we need to get on the same page.
Let's be a good teammate. And Devers was not having it.

Speaker 3 But that also might be John Henry leaking stuff to the press because he's afraid of getting tea-bagged.

Speaker 1 I do love just a story of an owner just getting his feelings hurt. It happens a lot.
And just saying, I'm making this rash decision because my feelings got hurt.

Speaker 3 It happens a lot. Yeah.
It does. Oh, National Sports Podcast.
Yeah. Did you see what Dan Quinn said about Debo? No.
He said, I saw him running the other day.

Speaker 3 I was reminded he's one of the fastest players on the team.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 3 Fastest with an S.

Speaker 1 Is that a hot seat, Commanders? Yeah. What do you mean? Well, he's the fastest.

Speaker 3 One of the fastest. One of the fastest.
Yeah, one of the fastest.

Speaker 1 One of the fastest.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 there was an S in what he said.

Speaker 3 S. That had an S.

Speaker 3 Not fast. It was fastest.
It is fast Debo. You saying fattest or fastest? I said the first time I said it, I said fastest with an S.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 Fast Debo. Fast Debo.

Speaker 1 All right, good show, boys.

Speaker 1 Oh, Memes is ready to go. Hank, we're going to miss you.

Speaker 1 I'm going to miss you guys. We had to do the

Speaker 1 part of me wants to just stay, but that's the only thing. No, you have to.
We already paid for it. Non-refundable.
Non-refundable. Wow.

Speaker 1 Man, we should make a little behind-the-scenes video of, like, pardon my take, guys, by producer

Speaker 1 round trip to Pebble Beach.

Speaker 3 We take care of our boys. We do.

Speaker 1 That's what we fucking do here. Take care of our boys.
No problem, man. No problem.
Don't even thank us, honestly. We don't even want thanks.

Speaker 1 We actually should cut all the part of us giving it away. Just because we didn't do it for the accolades.
Yeah. But if people want to thank us online, at at Barcelon BigCat, at PFT Covenanter.

Speaker 1 Okay. Numbers.
99.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's back. 99 meets.
He's back being a scumbag.

Speaker 1 Pug gave me permission.

Speaker 1 Okay. 55.

Speaker 1 6.

Speaker 3 14.

Speaker 1 I see 3. I see 16.
16.

Speaker 1 21. No, I'm literally looking at 3.
Hank can see it too. I'll go 76.

Speaker 1 Hank, you got three, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What was your number, Zach?

Speaker 3 14.

Speaker 1 You're gonna feel bad if this hits 99. Absolutely not.
Yes, we're gonna make

Speaker 1 you feel bad.

Speaker 1 Come on, 14.

Speaker 1 23.

Speaker 1 I'm Jack.

Speaker 3 Love you guys.