Paul Bissonnette Talking SCF, Smylie Kaufman Live From Oakmant, US Open Recap, Thunder Even The Series + Who's Back Of The Week

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On today's part in my take, we have a lot of sports to get to.

We had an NBA Finals game.

We have Stanley Cup Final Game 5.

We have our good friend Paul Bissinet on to talk about that.

What's going on?

If the Panthers are going to close it out on Tuesday night, we got our also very good friend smiley kaufman straight from oakman he was on the call he watched he was with jj spahn in his group uh for the championship round on saturday on sunday uh we break all all the u.s open talk down uh we had a big trade in the nba and an even bigger trade in major league baseball got a lot of sports to talk about Hank Devers out.

Sad.

Sad.

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Today is Monday, June 16th.

And holy shit, boys, Oakmont, JJ Spawn, what a Sunday of golf.

The course fought back.

Oakmont delivered.

They did.

It was carnage on Sunday.

We had rain delays.

We had...

Everyone just dropping like flies, a crazy leaderboard that was just everyone slipping backwards.

And JJ Spawn, who started his day

very, very much a Father's Day thing.

He started his day at CVS at 3 a.m.

because his daughter was throwing up, ended his day winning the U.S.

Open.

Incredible, incredible performance.

He was dead.

He was.

He shot a 40 on the front nine.

Yeah, he was first six holes of the day.

Five of them were bogeys.

Looked so lost.

Had some bad luck, but he was dead.

And he just fights and keeps fighting.

He made big shots.

The T shot was at 17.

Obviously, the putt to win it.

I actually thought the

the bogey save on 15

was huge.

So I was going to tie that in because in the first, the front nine, he had five bogeys.

Yep.

But you know what he didn't have?

He didn't have any blow-up holes.

He didn't have blow-up holes.

So that's what it's about at the U.S.

Open, right, Hank?

Yeah.

And on 15, that approach that he hit from the deepest of the cabbage.

Yeah.

I know he ended up saving bogey on it, but still,

you got to not blow up on those holes.

If you can't get excited about that type of golf shot, you don't have a pulse.

Hank, as our golf expert, can you just tell, like, because I obviously

golf expert, yeah.

You are, you are, right?

The putt on 18 to win it, we, you know, finish under par was insane.

He had a good read.

The drive on

was the drive on 17 where you only did a bunch of money.

That was the shot of a lifetime.

That was the shot of a lifetime.

But 15, that save.

What was going through your head as you're our golf expert when he hit that shot?

You're asking that question because you know I was asleep?

No, no.

We have no idea.

It was just a great golf expert.

You guys talk about Father's Day naps and golf naps.

I was battling, and then the rain delay happened, and I don't know what to do.

So, watch the shot.

Here, we have the shot right here for you.

Here's the shot.

Hank's spawn.

Hank's eyeing it up.

He's like, no way his spawn could go with

Hank's just sleeping dead on the couch.

I mean, there was a rain delay.

Watch him stick it.

We have watched him stick this, Hank.

It was just so thrilling.

I knew.

I knew.

I was like, How can I not hear you guys?

Oh, that's a great shot.

Oh, that's a great shot.

Great shot.

Great shot.

And then here's Hank's reaction.

Hank back to the TV.

Deadmore World.

Hank, what happened today?

Because I showed up at like 5.30.

PFT texted the group at 4.15.

Was like, hey, can someone let me in?

I'm here.

You were here sleeping.

I texted PFT and

we were going to train.

We had a plan to train.

Well, today was day one of Hank being CEO of Golf Operations for PFT Incorporated.

And we had a plan to train.

I got here early.

I was here at like two o'clock.

I'm like, all right, I'm fired up, watch the U.S.

Open.

The rain delay happened.

Rain delay.

And I dozed off.

And I figured when you guys got here, I was going to wake up because

you guys are loud.

And

you would have woken me up or been like, what's up?

Or made a noise.

But I feel like you guys, I now know you guys intentionally were quiet.

No,

you did open your eyes when I came in.

And I was like, I'm going to go hit the simulator.

And then I went to the simulator practice for about an hour and a half.

And then I came back into the golf or into the room where the golf was on TV.

And Hank was just passed out to the world.

Yeah, man.

I would have liked a heads up.

I would have liked, you know, maybe a nudge and been like, hey, Hank, I have a question.

I did make a lot of noise, by the way, when I came in.

I came in.

It was probably, I think the final group was at like 12.

And I came in and I walked, before I could see the scene, I was yelling in the hallway, we got a golf tournament, boys.

And then I see PFT in the back row of the gambling cave just sitting there.

I was like, what?

And then I looked up and it was just a dead body in the front row.

And I was like, all right, I'm going to go upstairs.

I'll let him sleep.

Yeah, I would have liked to be woken up.

I fell asleep because to the delay.

Like, I was like, all right, there's.

He's so asleep.

He's so asleep.

This is insane on Father's Day.

Everyone talks about Father's Day, nap, nap.

Hey, Kyva question.

The shaming is disgusting.

Hi, Nap.

At what point does a nap just cross over into being asleep?

Yeah.

I was,

every single nap that's ever taken place is asleep.

What the fuck kind of question is that?

Well, no, I'm saying, but not every time you're.

You're taking a nap is asleep.

But not every time.

Not every time you're sleeping.

When you go to bed,

when you go to bed at night,

you're asleep.

Are you like,

that's an insane question?

You had the bed on you at work.

When you go to bed at night, Hank, are you like, I just nap for eight hours?

What?

No.

I was asleep for what, an hour and a half?

It was about two to two and a half hours.

I think an hour and a half.

No.

No, it was at least two hours.

No.

At least two hours.

I wanted to say it was a long time.

Because I got there at about 4.05,

and then you didn't wake up until I think 6.15 or 6.20.

That's a long nap, Hank.

Yeah.

This is crazy.

This is crazy shaming from you guys.

Wait, no, yeah.

Hank, I got here at 5.20, and I texted PFT at 6.20 saying, is he still asleep?

He said, yeah, he's been asleep for a little over two hours.

Well, all right, whatever.

I don't know.

I would like to be woken up.

You guys just use this.

This is crazy.

Hey, Hank, hold on.

I was here before anyway.

Naps are ready to go.

The golf naps are.

If there wasn't a fucking rain delay, I wouldn't have fallen asleep.

Golf naps are great, but you have to time them.

I took my golf nap.

Okay, okay, Mr.

Fucking.

I did.

I took my golf nap between, I think it was like, I bet on Hovlin, so I was dialed into Hovlin.

I think I tweeted.

I was like, I'm

sucks right now.

I said I'm going to try to take a rally nap.

I slept from like whole three to seven.

You got to do the front nap.

No, my bad.

I'll consult you on my naps next time.

No, but but I.

I'm just saying be a pro.

It's a fucking major, dude.

Hank brings up a good point.

This is actually our fault.

It is.

It is.

We should have woken you up.

All right, so as our golf expert, what did you think about that approach shot on 15?

It's a good shot.

It was a great shot.

It was a great tournament.

Oakbot, here you go, Hank.

Oakbond fought back.

Good job.

Thanks.

Yeah.

You're right.

It had teeth.

Although, do we think it was a little weather assistant?

Because, well, no shit.

He was napping doing that, too.

Yeah.

Well,

it got harder, though.

It got harder.

That's what I'm saying.

The weather assisted.

I do feel

a little bit bad for Sam Burns.

Yes.

Because he apparently got fucked by the ruling from two rules officials.

Yep.

I don't pretend to know the ins and the outs of the golf rule book, but I saw a lot of people.

Usually online, people are pissed off that golfers get Mickey Mouse rulings from the rules official.

And they're like, I have to play through this when I play.

Why aren't these guys having to play through it?

Everybody was mad at the rules officials because of this.

Is it the Kyle Porter video?

Yeah.

Of him stepping on the ground where Burns just hit his shoes.

It's just water.

And there's just water squirting out of the ground.

But apparently, the rule is like if you press down on it with more than your body weight, then water, it's fine if it squirts up.

It's just if you're standing there.

So now people are debating whether or not he was pressing down hard with his foot.

Yeah.

And if that should have been a ruling in the other direction.

But yeah, him, Burns, Hatton had some

questionable shots that might have been assisted in terms of the course getting a little leg up, not being able to hit through the rough anymore.

Hovlin never could break through.

Adam Scott was like, I feel like the guy that everyone was rooting for.

Do you know Adam Scott's played in 96 street major tournaments?

Isn't that crazy?

I can't believe it.

Since 2001, I believe.

Hank, I'm sorry.

Listen,

we just created our own Stephen A.

Smith solitaire issue.

Our expert was

playing solitaire during.

No worries.

I would rather you be asleep, though, than play solitaire.

Yeah, true.

Because if you're playing solitaire, you're awake and you're choosing to not watch.

What do you control when you sleep?

What did you think about Oakmont overall, Hank?

Hey, you were right.

It came back.

It was a fun tournament, fun to watch.

I like tournaments when it's golf or struggle.

I have a question for you, a hypothetical for you.

Sure.

Who do you think would have won if, let's say, it was 144 holes and not 72 holes?

Scotty?

Yeah, that's the answer.

No, Scotty.

Yeah, no, no.

Dan Rapport said that.

If this tournament lasted 144 holes instead of 72, I have zero doubt that Scotty Scheffler would win it.

That's another way of saying he's the best player in the world.

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

Yeah, well, I mean, if a golf tournament was 5,000 holes long,

Scotty would win that too.

Yeah, yeah.

If we just changed the rules, then Scotty would win it.

I have a fun fact about J.J.

Spawn.

Yeah.

All right, so this was Joe Pompliano tweeted this out.

He lost 40 pounds from 2017 to 2021

because he thought that he had type 2 diabetes.

So he's like, fucked out.

I'm going to lose weight.

Going to get my A1C under control.

Lost 40 pounds, kept losing weight, wasn't getting any healthier.

And then he found out two years later, he actually had type 1 diabetes.

Oh.

How do they fuck that up?

I don't know.

If you have two diabetes, you don't have one.

Yeah.

And that's got to be the biggest relief of all time being like, oh, shit.

Well, I actually can't control this unless I get medication for it.

So now I don't have to worry about losing weight anymore.

Yeah.

That rocks.

That's huge, right?

I can eat whatever I want.

Yeah.

And

he probably did gain a little of the weight back.

And then he got a good golfer's body.

Then he got better after he stopped dieting.

Yeah.

There's a lesson in there.

It is nice to see one of these guys who wins who maybe doesn't have the best body.

Yeah.

You know, he's just out there just hitting great shots.

Dad bud.

Yeah.

He's got a dad bud for Father's Day.

Hank, here's another one you got, right?

Your hatred for Rory has aged like fine one.

He's the worst.

He is the worst.

Yeah.

Rory just bitching all weekend.

He did have a great club toss, though.

Oh, the club toss is elite.

Threw the club, bounced back at him.

You'd think Adam Scott would be able to throw a stick like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What's his problem?

I think he's just,

I think he's done with golf.

He's mad at internet trolls and blaming the media.

Like there's not media that are unfairly.

He's saying

they're not against them.

I don't really think it's like

someone online said they were looking, like trying to find evidence of media being unfair against them.

It's just people online.

I think it's taking out on the media.

It's the driver thing.

We're going to get into it a little bit with Smiley.

It's the driver thing at the PJ Championship.

Well, I think it's also the live thing where it's just all these guys are competing in the majors and have made so much money and

there's been no real repercussions.

And there's also a framework for a deal for them to work together.

It's a blueprint.

A blueprint.

I will say something in Rory's favor about the whole media thing, though, and the PGA thing.

I understand why he would be upset at the PGA.

Rory put his dick on the

for two years, being like, I'm a PGA tour guy.

It's about legacy.

it's about the kids he said and did all the right things and then at the pga championship they leaked that his driver was one of the ones that they had to pull out when he they didn't mention anybody else's driver they leaked his name specifically after he had just been the one that was out there taking all the bullets for them yeah i understand why he would be pissed off about that but he did also act like a bitch yeah he's just he's just a baby all the time yeah well it's crazy too like it seemed like he didn't care about this tournament he's like once you win the masters it's like that was the big hurdle of my career.

Now I can just focus full-time on only winning the open championship.

I think he even said that.

He's like, it was, quote, if I can't get motivated to get up for an open championship at home, then I don't know what can motivate me.

I climbed my Everest in April, and I think after you do something like that, you've got to make your way back down.

You've got to look for another mountain to climb.

And open at Port Rush is certainly one of those.

So he's essentially admitting that he just kind of, once he won the Masters, he's like, I'm good.

I only care about tournaments that take place in the UK now.

Now, there was a moment when the rain delay happened, where instead of sticking around the course, they played a flashback to Torrey Pines in 2008.

That was awesome.

I mean,

I didn't want to stop watching that.

It was just a reminder of how awesome Tiger Woods.

The long putt he made.

Like, yeah, I agree with you.

I would have been fine if they're like, hey, we're going to play on Monday, but just keep watching this.

Yeah, I did.

I actually went and I watched the entire playoff on like two times 2x speed on YouTube as the U.S.

Open was going on.

Yeah.

It's very.

They should just have that.

It's just be the Tiger rain delay.

That's every single time.

Yeah.

Ever a rain delay.

Smash the Tiger button.

All-time rain delay, though, for JJ Spawn because it did, and Smiley's going to explain it, but like it felt like he was lost, and that rain delay helped him so much water.

Oakmont even takes on water better than anyone else.

There was like, it started raining, and all of a sudden it was just a pool on the fairways.

Yeah.

That's how elite the course is.

It was great.

They had to bring out the guys with the Rollies, the squeegees, the green squeegees.

Shout out to those guys.

Some of the Steelers fans, they were chanting, here we go, squeegees, here we go.

Oh, I love that.

I like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good tournament.

Great, great final round.

Felt even though it was just like everyone was

because

there was a few guys that were under par to start the day.

And then it just, that stretch where everyone was losing, like,

was giving up strokes.

It was just chaos because I don't remember a tournament where there was a moment where it felt like there were seven guys who were still very

sitting in the clubhouse for very much in it.

Rom had to post up at the clubhouse for like six hours, just waiting for it to be done.

And it did look like, actually, I would say if the tournament had gone on like another six holes, I think Rom would have won.

I think Rom and Scotty.

Maybe or Rob McIntyre.

Rob McIntyre would have been the first lefty ever to win the U.S.

Open.

Yeah, that would have been crazy.

And he gave a thundering round of applause when J.J.

Spawn made that putt.

If I was him in that situation, you would not catch me clapping.

Yeah.

I would be so mad.

You just lost $2 million in a U.S.

Open.

Yeah.

Also, we've got to figure out something.

We love Scotty.

We've got to figure out something with the hair.

We've got to go to Turkey.

We got to do something.

Maybe just pick it?

I don't think Scotty looks good picking it.

What do you think about Jason Day's controversial comments?

What were those?

He said he's a

Cleveland Browns fan first, but his second favorite team is the Steelers.

Oh, that doesn't work.

I don't like that.

That doesn't work.

That's tough.

I don't like that.

Where's he from?

Australia.

Those teams, does he know they don't like each other?

He lives in Ohio.

Does he know the Browns and Steelers?

He's wearing black and older.

Like, oh, is that a Steelers thing?

He's like, well, no, you know,

I love the Browns, but myself,

he might have been being cheeky at Oakmont.

No, he said he's like, I know I'm going to get crossed for that.

Oh,

I like that Australian accent.

I know I'm going to get crossed for that.

I know it's absolutely a terrible thing to say about American football.

However, Scotty,

we got to fix it.

Jason, this is like saying I root in state of origin for both sides, right?

You can't root for Queensland and you can't root for the Blues.

It's absolutely a disgrace for you to push both sides.

They're

verified teams.

Scotty's got to do something.

That's bad.

Yeah, well,

it goes with his vibe.

It goes with his vibe.

Yeah, he is an old man.

Yeah, I don't think he does.

What?

You don't think he cares?

Yeah.

Yeah, no, I don't know if he cares, but I just feel like

isn't it?

I don't know.

You're a hair plugs guy, PFT.

Don't you have to do it now, otherwise, you lose the chance to do it?

Oh, no, no, he's got some time.

Oh, you can.

He's got some time.

I mean, Tiger Woods.

PFT is self-absorbed and self-conscious, though, so it's a little different.

Yeah, it is.

I don't think Scotty cares.

If I was Scotty and I was 28 years old, I did it when I was 38.

Scotty

at 28,

I would.

Is he actually still 28?

Think about.

No, I think he's like 30.

Okay.

Or he's 29.

His age has always been so funny.

Oh, no, he's 28.

Is he really 28?

Yeah, he turns 29

on Saturday.

If I was Scotty, I wouldn't do it.

Tiger didn't do it.

Yeah.

He had a pretty good creature.

It is the one sport that you can consider not doing it just because you wear a hat the entire time.

Yeah.

Stuart Sink, he's shown everybody that nobody really cares what goes on underneath that hat.

Yeah.

The one golfer's tan picture that he had.

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Should we talk some NBA Finals?

It's 2-2.

Great series.

I think actually

you had the

Stanley Cup final up 3-2 on the NBA Finals.

I think it's 3-3-0.

It's 3-3 now.

3-3.

Game 4 was awesome.

It was SGA.

It was SGA basically being like, this is why I won the MVP.

This is why I'm the best player in this series.

He had 35 points, zero assists.

He basically took over in the fourth quarter.

Down the stretch, he scored, I think, 15 points in the fourth quarter, including that maybe controversial push-off slash whatever happened, maybe travel.

There's like four things that could have happened, but the end result was an incredible shot by SGA.

And that corner three he hit, he basically was like, I have to win this series myself.

And he did it in that fourth quarter.

And Rick Carlisle, Classy, said, don't talk bad about Scott Foster.

Scott Foster's my friend.

He's a great referee.

I don't like all this discourse regarding the extender.

It was just SGA being dominant.

Yeah.

That's all it was.

No, he he was.

He was eight.

He was dominant.

They were down by what, seven, I think, seven to start the fourth.

I think they were down, I think they were down eight to start the fourth.

And SGA just said, I'm going to do it on my own.

Yeah.

And he didn't have an assist, which is kind of crazy.

15 points in the final 438 of the game.

That is one of those games that if you're a Pacers fan, like you felt, it felt for three quarters they had him.

Yeah.

Like when Obi Toppin was dunking on people's heads and hitting threes, and it felt like the Thunder were completely on the ropes, and it was just okay, they got to do something.

And also, the Thunder's defense-like that, that's the crazy part about the Thunder.

I feel like they just hit they turn up the button where it's like, hey, Lou Dort and Alex Grusso.

And a lot of people are saying, you know, there's a lot of fouling, and it's very physical, but the way they can turn up that defensive intensity, they completely shut down the Pacers in the fourth quarter.

If Pacers had one assist in the fourth quarter, they didn't have a bucket for a really long stretch.

And now it's 2-2 going back to OKC.

It looks like like I mentioned on Friday show how the Nuggets Thunder series went, where it was like, you know, game one, Nuggets stole one crazy.

Game two, the Thunder killed them.

Game three, the Nuggets went similar thing.

It actually also, people were pointing out, it's similar to the Celtics Warriors finals, where the

Celtics stole game one on the road.

Lose badly in game two, then win game three, and then they were up in game four.

That was fucking a man.

That was fucking a man.

yeah so do you pretty sure do you think that stuff curry yeah because you guys were up in that game yeah and then lose that game and then it was like well there it goes yeah because then they go back to golden state win game five win the series in six do you feel like that is going to be similar to what happens now yes reminder the pacers have not lost back-to-back game since march 10th so but you think that that was the pacers that was a that was a

That was their game to lose and they did and now I feel like the series is over.

Yeah.

The Pacers have been winning this series, and it's tied.

I mean,

the Pacers have been winning the series, now it's tied.

The Thunder know they're the better team, and they can just step on their throats.

So you think Thunder and Six still?

Yeah.

Max, you're shaking your head.

Shaking your head.

It just.

The Pacers, look, like, the Pacers controlled that game for

the entire game.

That's the devastating part.

They were

the same thing after the Thunder won game two.

Well, no, the Thunder killed the Pacers in game two.

But, like, you were like, all right, all right, it's over.

Like, now that the thunder.

No, I'm not saying it's over.

I'm just saying the Pacers,

I have a feeling we're going to look back and be like, the Pacers were 12 minutes away from basically winning the NBA Finals.

And that's it.

I got to stop counting out the Pacers.

I'm not counting out the Pacers.

Hank is.

I am.

I have.

Yeah.

I'm sticking to counting them.

They are as resilient as Resilient gets, but I'm just saying, like, that was, that game was theirs.

It was, it felt like the Thunder had no answers.

And then it was just SGA.

And he did it.

And I'm always surprised by how deep his voice is.

Every time.

Oh, he's got a great voice.

Yeah,

his voice is so much.

He's got a seven-footer voice.

And shout out Alex Caruso.

20 points.

Yeah, 20 points.

Plus 14.

J-Dub had 27, I believe.

Like,

they all chipped in.

And, yeah, incredible.

And Lou Dort was just a monster.

And Scott Foster extended the series.

He did his job.

People are going to say, you know, Scott Foster, I think it was, I saw a stat, there was 21 minutes more of the game lasted lasted 21 minutes longer than game one.

So he extended that game.

He extended the game.

So I think, I've been saying Thunder and Six.

I actually think it's going to be Thunder and Seven.

The Pacers, they just find a way to surprise you.

They find a way to win games that.

They'll lose back to back.

Yeah, they will win another game.

It's going to go seven.

I agree with you.

I'm going off of the Nuggets Thunder series, where it's going to, I think the Pacers will win game six.

I'm going off of the NBA wanting to make money.

And even though it's small markets,

the fact that it could go seven is way better than if it was a four-game sweep with big markets.

Yeah.

The big story of the game: Stephen A.

Smith caught in 4K playing solitaire during the game.

And then

lied twice to try to get out of it.

Where,

so for people who missed it, who don't live online, there is a fan who took a picture behind Stephen A.

Smith during the game, and it's Stephen A.

Smith mid-solitaire game.

Locked in.

That starts going viral.

Stephen A.

Smith's like, ha, can't multi.

He said, yep, that's me.

Who would have thought I can multitask, especially during timeouts?

Hope you're all enjoying the NBA Finals.

This is going seven.

Or what do you say?

Scroll up.

This is going seven games now, peeps.

And then there was a video that just showed him also having it open while the action was going on.

Or you have to finish your game.

Well, so I'm not going to try to defend Stephen A.

Smith here.

It's a bad look for him because it wouldn't be a bad look if he didn't have just the most ridiculous takes all the time and like attack people and do the Tyrese Halberton trying to call me out.

A lot of guys called me out and we'll see how that goes.

He's an antagonist.

Can we at least say it looked from afar like he was dominating that solitary game?

And like you kind of have to keep going with it.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

You don't stop the game just because it came back from timeout.

If you have

a dirt, you close it out.

Look at that stack.

That's the difference between Stephen A.

Smith and guys like Halliburton.

Halliburton didn't show up after the game or after the timeout.

He kind of took his foot off the gas.

Stephen A.

Smith went harder after the timeout.

It was very funny that

he tweeted that out and then everyone's like, oh, wait, here's the video.

Now, the video didn't actually show him looking down at the Solitaire game

when, yeah,

he had a nice stack going.

Like, that's a clean game.

Do you guys know how to play Solitaire?

I do.

A little bit.

If you had a stack of cards in front of you right now, could you do it?

I could play it online.

I couldn't play it with a with a deck card.

When it tells you, no, you can't put that card here right now.

Yeah, me too.

Yeah, where it bounces back.

Yep.

There's nothing better when all the cards start jumping.

Max, would uh would uh you you're a big solitaire guy?

Uh I I've dabbled in solitaire before.

Yeah.

My mom's a big solitaire person.

She I she has like a MacBook, and I think all she's ever used is solitaire.

Do you do three-card or one card?

You can go three-card?

Like, when you...

I'd have to look.

It's been a while.

You draw three cards, and you can only use the first one.

Three-card is hard.

I do one-card.

Yeah, one-card is...

Yeah.

One card is a way to do it.

This is a dumb question.

Can you play Solitaire against somebody else?

No, I think it's...

I know it's called Solitaire.

I think you could, like, maybe...

For time, for speed?

Yeah, for speed, like, two people have two decks to see who finishes first.

Is there a game he could have been playing that wouldn't have gotten this reaction?

Solitaire is a kind of a boring game.

You'd agree, right, Max?

It's a boring game.

Temple run?

No, I think he'd be like, I get it.

If he was doing like Farmville or whatever.

Pokemon Go.

Clash of Clans.

People love Clash of Clans.

If Stephen A.

Smith had the...

What was the one that went viral where you would catch Pokemon out in the wild?

Pokemon Go.

That was Pokemon Go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Pokemon Go.

If he was just like getting a Charizard in the middle of the game.

Yeah.

That would be kind of cool.

It was on the the court.

Everybody thought that he was creeping out on Caitlin Clark, but he was actually, there's a Charizard sitting in her seat.

I mean,

I don't know what he's going to, he'll spin his way out of it.

I don't think anyone at ESPN cares because he gets ratings.

But it is a bad look in the fact that this is his number one sport.

And he's going to go on.

Got to be locked in.

He's got to be locked in.

You remember a couple years ago he was talking about some players on the Chargers that hadn't been on the team for like two seasons?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So when he makes mistakes like that, then

people just point to the solitaire.

Yeah.

You got to establish to everyone that you're a moron.

That's the thing is he's too proud.

Like we here establish that we're morons and make mistakes all the time.

Yeah.

And when you make mistakes all the time.

You know, people can't be like, oh, man, you weren't like, yeah, I probably wasn't locked in.

Yeah.

So if I like screw something up in a Thursday night football recap and there's a shot of me playing a flight simulator on my phone during the third quarter.

Sorry.

Guess what?

I am but a man.

Yeah, that does happen.

Oh, you're playing a little solitary now?

No, keep the sound on.

We can't keep the sound on.

Why?

Because you'll hear it.

Yeah, I want to hear.

I want to hear you.

What's your first move here?

I just put the black four under the red five.

Oh, we got an A, so let's put that.

Oh, there you go.

Yep.

Oh, we're cooking.

This is good.

Is there a game that people would have been actually the other, the opposite reaction, impressed if he was playing it

while the game was going on?

Yeah.

I think Clash Clans would be

a lot of respect.

I think what if he was sick at Geo Guesser

as it was going on?

That would be good.

Yeah,

I don't even know.

I mean, it would have been obviously hilarious if he was watching porn.

Yeah.

If he just had a side of porn.

I would have liked that.

I always have respect for

the real perverts who watch porn not jerking off yeah they just watch

just watching porn just how to like hey i'm just gonna have this on in the background yeah lamar odom yeah he would do that right yeah if he had yeah or what if he had like uh instagram reels up and we just had some some big titty things going on big booties yeah that would have that would have been terrible no i mean listen this is what you're going to get with stephen a smith yeah okay stephen a smith is a personality he's not if you think that stephen a smith is an expert at basketball no i don't know anybody that watches him to be like i want to get smarter about basketball In fact, you watch Stephen A.

Smith because you want to get dumber and angrier when you learn about basketball.

Right.

And this is exactly par for the course.

And he's going to somehow work the Lakers into every single conversation.

Yeah.

You know, even though they were eliminated two months ago.

But it was very funny.

Stephen A.

Smith, I'm sure he'll survive.

But every time he does make a mistake, it will come up solid.

Okay.

Other NBA stories.

The Magic made a trade.

They did.

The Magic got better.

The magic did get better.

They gave up a lot of picks, four first-round picks,

and KCP.

Everybody's looking at the number of first-round picks that they gave up and comparing it to the Luca trade, being like they overpaid.

It all depends.

Yeah.

Well, I

all right.

So it was a lot of first-round picks.

I do like that the Magic, they needed shooting.

Paolo's really, really good.

Franz is really, really good.

Hank, you said it when you guys played the Magic.

Like, if they had shooters,

I always like a team actually trying to do right by their young star.

Desmond Baden is one of the best three-point shooters in the league.

Was it a lot?

I don't know, but they at least tried to get better for Paolo.

I like that.

I feel like they're all in.

They might be all in.

Yeah.

They also might,

could this also be

Pacers' disease?

What do you mean?

Teams see that the Pacers make this type of run, and they're like, oh.

Anybody could do it.

We could do this.

Anybody could do it.

It could be us next year.

Well, you know what you can say?

It's like, Paolo, no more excuses.

No more excuses.

You got to be the guy now.

You got Desmond Bain now.

They invested in you.

You got Bain.

You got Bain.

Now, it was a lot of picks to give up, yes.

But also in the NBA, if you have a good team, you don't really need that many picks.

No.

No, I mean, if you're going to be really good, and that's their plan, those picks are not going to be...

lottery picks.

So what is Desmond Bain's wingspan?

Because I heard what Meme said that they're calling him the T-Rex.

How far is it?

By the way, Max is good at Solitaire.

He's actually playing really well right now.

I want you to win this.

We're not going to find out his wingspan, but he's playing.

Yeah.

He's busy with this.

I will finish.

I have to finish a solitaire.

We've literally just Stephen A.

Smith ourselves.

Where it's just.

Spain was negatively evaluated leading up to the NBA draft for having a short wingspan, a quality perceived as a necessity for capable wing defense.

I'm not seeing what they actually did.

6'6 with a 6'4 wingspan.

Okay.

He's got negative 4?

Here's a stat for you.

Desmond Bain is one of three NBA players with 800 made three-pointers and 40% three-point shooting since entering the league in 2020 and has shot 43.2% on catch-and-shoot threes in the last five seasons.

That's pretty fucking good.

That's really fucking good.

That's kind of what they need.

Only nine players have a negative wingspan in the NBA.

That's crazy.

It's like 100% of this office.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Gruden had us do it, and we we were.

I was negative.

I don't think I am.

I think Frank the Tank bodied us.

He did, yeah.

I had a plus one, and for a while, I was the leader in the clubhouse, like, like ROM, and then Frank came in, and he put up like a plus five or a plus six.

Yeah.

Okay, and then also Kevin Durant said he has listed teams he wants to go to.

Yeah, the Rockets, the Heat, and the Spurs.

Okay, good organizations.

I kind of want to see him on the Spurs.

Yeah.

I want to see anyone really good with Wimpy.

The question is, do those teams want Kevin Durant considering what they're going to have to give up to get him?

Very good question.

I mean, he's only got one year left.

So

there's at least a decent chance that Kevin Durant is playing for two more teams before he retires.

It'd be awesome.

Everyone just loves, is obsessed with talking about Kevin Durant's legacy.

What if Kevin Durant just tried to play for the most amount of teams?

And that was his legacy.

That'd be a great legacy.

Wouldn't that be smart of him at this point being like...

Become the Joshua of the NBA?

Yeah.

I'm going to try to figure this out.

I'll play six, seven more years, maybe a couple mid-season trades, but let me try to play for every single franchise, and then they have to love me.

Well, I think this is a legacy-defining move right now.

I'm going to say it.

He needs to win a championship with whatever team he goes to in this trade.

Because he's cherry-picking the teams.

True.

Right?

True.

If he doesn't do it, then his legacy, in my eyes, it takes a ding.

Wow.

I'm going to ding him.

I'm going to say

if he wins with the heat

legacy way up, because they don't really have much.

Yeah, but no, I would also.

I'm not going to take another hero who doesn't believe in history before 1950.

I saw that.

In terms of legacy moves,

I would say the strongest legacy move would be to win one with

the

Rockets.

Oh, I think that's the weakest.

I think that'd be the biggest because you go to Miami and it's like, oh, well, you're just copying LeBron.

Yeah, I see that, but the Rockets are very good.

They were the two seeds.

So he could be, like, if he goes to the Rockets, okay, man, they were already ready to go.

They were already a young team.

I think Spurs might be his best legacy move because he can be like, he showed Wemby how to do it.

And then Wemby goes and wins a bunch of titles.

And then Wemby does a bunch of interviews saying, I wasn't a winner until Kevin Durant showed me.

He showed me how to win when it mattered.

Yeah, so he not only has his legacy, but he technically has Wemby's legacy, too.

But if he goes to San Antonio, I view that as just an extension of the David Robinson legacy.

Yeah.

David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Kevin Durant,

then Wimpy.

This is where we're.

I just looked up and everyone just locked in on Max's solitaire.

Yeah.

What are we doing?

We're doing very important legacy talk here.

This is extremely booth.

It's just so, so dialogue.

The solitary might be in trouble, too.

We may be in trouble.

I don't know if I'm going to, I may have lost.

We were deep into legacy talk, really breaking it down.

And look up, and it's just like no one's listening to anything we're saying.

It's just solitary.

I almost think the best legacy move he could do would be to go to Oklahoma City.

Finish what he started.

Yeah.

Or go back to the Warriors.

Yeah.

And just be like, this is where, win another one with the Warriors.

That would be a good legacy move.

Go to the Wizards, your hometown.

That would be a great move.

Elevate them, win a title there.

Yeah.

He's got some legacy decisions to make.

Kevin Duran, if you're listening to this, which hopefully you are, consult with us.

We will actually, you know what?

Zach, put it in a...

Or memes or someone, put a reminder in there.

Let's do it in like two weeks.

Let's break down the best,

all 30 teams, what it would mean for Kevin Durant's legacy.

Yeah.

We can get it.

This is a good midsummer thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Every single, we'll do a legacy rating on every single team you could go to.

I'm thinking about one or two teams right now that would be huge for the legacy.

I'm thinking of one or two that would,

even if he won, it actually would negatively affect his legacy.

Just give me one of those.

If he went to the Lakers and they won with Luke and LeBron, it actually would take his legacy down more.

It absolutely would.

Yeah, there's definitely some negative legacy.

The nuggets.

Nuggets would be...

No, legacy down.

Legacy down.

It depends on what they would give up for him because if it was just him and Jokic, that would be pretty fun basketball.

I still say awesome.

Yeah, but legacy down.

But he could be like, oh, this is just what hoopers do we just play ball you know imagine getting dimes from from jokic and just having the most wide open shots ever and winning a championship that way but imagine but him and jokic combined you know that like the ethical basketball crowd would be like this is the most purest form of basketball ever legacy up uh

what about the celtics hank

i think i wanted him really bad like six years ago i just don't

it'd be great it'd be great if he won a championship for the Celtics, it'd be great.

His legacy would go way up.

Would it?

Yeah.

Would he be the best player on that team?

Next year, yeah.

It's a good answer.

Way to answer that.

I just saw a tweet from Desmond Bain or Desmond Bain back in 2023.

There was a

limb lengthening procedure video that went viral, and he said, need this for the wingspan.

He's self-aware.

Saley Cup final.

Looks like the Panthers,

the cup is in the building.

Anacon

tonight.

Biz was right.

That was an incredible game.

We're going to do an extended talk with Biz about it, but that was an incredible game by the Panthers to show up and just dominate that game.

Yeah.

Absolutely dominate that game.

Feels like the Oilers might be in trouble.

I think the Oilers are in a little bit of trouble, but you can just say, if you're an Oilers fan, now we just got to drag them back.

Yeah.

If you just say drag them back, then I'm like, good point.

Now, this is a really...

This is a really stupid thought I'm about to throw out there.

But, because obviously the Panthers want to win the Stanley Cup no matter what.

Do you think there's a little extra motivation being like, we don't want to get back on a flight?

Oh, for sure.

Like,

actual planning of going on a flight will make them try even a little harder, which is stupid to say because they are probably trying their hardest anyway.

I think it's not just a flight.

It's going through customs.

Yeah.

Checking into a new hotel.

It's a long-ass flight.

All that shit.

Yeah, that sucks.

I think if you're the Panthers, you're like, I like the weather down here.

Let's just stay in Florida.

Yeah.

All right.

So, yeah, Biz.

We're going to talk a lot at NHL with Biz.

Hank.

Raphael Devers.

Well,

first of all, congrats on sweeping the Yankees.

Thank you.

There you go.

Good day.

Did Devers home run today?

No.

I thought I saw he hit a home run today.

I thought he did, yeah.

Did he?

I'm pretty sure that people were just retweeting his.

I was playing solitaire.

The tweet about him hitting a home run today.

What happened, Hank?

The Red Sox traded him.

They said it was a financial decision and he wasn't, you know, I don't even know, up to team standards, which is bullshit.

Is he fat?

Is he a Luca?

I don't know.

They brought in a player at the same position as him.

And then he got upset about that, which I think is somewhat rightfully so.

Even some of the stuff like him not wanting to play a different position got taken out of context.

They did him dirty in the media.

I've been out of the Red Sox ownership since they got rid of Mookie Betts.

It's like, you have a generational player.

You should do, you have the money.

You're a big market.

You should do whatever it takes to keep them.

And after that, it was clear that they don't care about the fans.

They don't care about winning.

Like, they know the Red Sox ownership is selfish.

And they don't care about winning because they know that fans are going to show up either way.

They'll make money.

And they're going to make money.

And this was just another example of that.

And it's just, it's sickening.

What do you think?

The 2018 Red Sox roster, it's like everyone's been treated.

What do you think?

And a bunch of players are still really good.

Do you have any comment regarding the Liverpool football club and the big signing that they made?

No.

Yeah, they said they got it for

$150 million on Florian Wurtz.

Yeah,

they did what they needed to do.

They won in 2004, and then they started buying up all these other sports teams, and those teams are the teams that they care about.

The Red Sox are the team

that it feels like they're like well we don't need to do anything like they're gonna generate x amount of revenue because fans are gonna show up no matter what and like let's not break the bank trying to make the team better what is crazy is that devers had eight years left on his contract 2033 was when it's when he or 2034 is when he became an unrestricted free agent pretty crazy pretty crazy he signed a 10-year 313 million dollar contract in 2023 yeah he signed that and then they just got rid of him that's nuts did you get anyone good back?

No.

A couple pitchers I've never heard of who have like ERAs in the fours and fives.

That sucks.

It sucks for Red Sox fans.

Sweep the Yankees, go one game over 500, a little momentum.

And then they do that.

I feel like the Cubs are kind of through the same shit.

But wait, isn't it?

Yeah, the Kyle Tucker sign.

The Kyle Tucker impending free agency is going to be very similar because it basically is like

they harp on the fans' loyalty.

Yeah, and the Kyle Tucker specifically, there is no better time to commit to a guy like Kyle Tucker than right this second.

So if they don't do it this time, they're basically saying they'll never do it.

So isn't this a good, friendly move showing that they care about their players?

They're like, okay, you got upset about the third base thing.

We're going to trade you to the Giants where you'll have an opportunity to play third base.

No.

No, because

they've got a great third baseman already.

So that part doesn't even make sense.

It was purely a money move.

Yeah.

Sucks.

And it does.

Yeah, I mean, this is also where I know everyone has anger towards the Dodgers.

I don't feel anger towards the Dodgers.

I feel jealousy.

Yes.

Because

the Dodgers are like, they do the opposite where they are maxed out and they're like, but let's still spend more money.

Let's still go get more guys.

The Red Sox used to be like that.

When I was growing up, it felt like the Red Sox, like they were always trying to sign big free agents.

Like they were going, you know, early Theo days, like they were trying to win.

They don't, it does not feel like they're trying to win, they're just trying to, you know,

make money and avoid the luxury tax, whatever they have to do.

That's bullshit.

It's bullshit.

Raphael Devers hits bombs.

Yeah.

I mean, Mookie Bets, that's the thing.

That was the one where they lost me forever after that.

Like, it was

named his dog after him.

Yeah.

But he is a generational talent, and he is a great, like, great player, great everything, did everything the right way.

Like, there's no reason not to get behind him.

None.

So.

They showed their hand then.

Yeah.

And then they play the Giants this week.

Oh, that's.

It's very funny.

Are you John Henry out?

I think they...

Ben John Henry out.

I think they got Raphael Devers off the plane.

Yeah, there was a video of him going back to Fenway to get his car.

Yeah, because I think they're flying to the West Coast for some games, and

I think they're playing the Giants this week.

I read that they put him in a cab.

That's kind of weird.

Yeah, kind of strange.

Yeah.

Save money on the luxury tax.

Does Boston have any sort of history of doing disruptive protests against tyrannical leaders?

You guys should do a tea party.

For John Henry?

Yeah.

A Henry party?

Like when he's out in public, you should teabag him.

With actual tea bags.

That's assault.

Throwing a teabag at somebody?

Definitely assault.

If hot

or just

straight out of him.

Wet?

Wet.

Wet but room temperature.

Wet but room temperature.

So it leaves like a small stainless.

That guy got teabagged.

Yeah.

If hot, hot would be an assault.

If I were a Red Sox fan, I would teabag the shit out of him.

Do it, Hanks.

Start a teabag.

It's not going to hurt him.

Get him teabagged.

Nobody's ever died from getting teabagged or really even gotten hurt.

Get his ass teabagging.

Get his ass teabagged.

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Henry, who's back of the week?

Who's back of the week?

First one,

this just came up because

we have NBC on in the studio after US Open, and they're playing America's Got Talent.

It's been an ongoing thing, I think, I've talked about on the show with Boston Dynamics.

Yep.

And the robots, and every time they show videos, and I'm always like, these robots are going to end up taking over the world and getting guns and shooting us all.

The fucking Boston Dynamics robots were on America's Got Talent.

It's bullshit.

It's bullshit.

They're trying to make it look cute.

They're like, look how awesome these robot dogs are.

Yes, when they're like mowing down like preschools and shit, people are going to come back to that clip of like, oh, yeah, remember when we were like clapping, giving them a standing motation on America's Got Talent?

Yeah.

Wait, what were they doing?

They were like dance.

They were doing a synchronized dance.

And they were like scratching their chins, being like, boop, very good boy.

13 out of 10.

Are they part of Palantir?

Is it Palantir?

I'm sure that Palantir has got their mitts in themselves.

I think it's a Bezos.

I started looking at that Palantir stuff.

I didn't want to look at that anymore.

Yeah, no,

it's too late.

Yeah, no, they already own all your dance.

We're fucked.

We're so fucked.

Actually, we shouldn't say anything about Peter Thiel.

He has a habit of suing sports blood.

That's true.

This is crazy.

You're right, Hank.

This is, these are not cute.

These are fucking, they're going to kill us.

Yes,

these are built to destroy, and they're using this as like PR for them.

Also, this isn't talent.

No.

It's programmed.

Beep, bop, beep, boop.

Wait, isn't one of those dogs dead?

The one in the background, there's one that's on the ground the entire time.

These look like sailors.

Yeah, you're right.

Yeah.

Here's how we combat these dogs.

I'm going to start selling magnets.

Just giant magnets.

It'll fuck them up.

Everything about that robots?

This is scary.

They like

snake necks, too.

Yeah, no, it was.

It's not the vibe.

I love that dead one.

There's just a dead one on the side.

The only robot I like is a dead robot.

That's absolutely right.

Okay.

My either who's back, though, before that, it was going to be the big three.

Yes.

A lot of big three drama this week.

I feel like the big three is

growing because it's like they have all, you know, they have very popular NBA players from like 10, 15 years ago.

Big names.

Big names playing Steven Jackson's coaching, got in a fight in the locker room after.

Michael Beasley was going at Dwight Howard, Lance Stevenson.

Lance Stevenson and Dwight Howard actually fought.

Yeah.

And it's hilarious because I saw that clip and the only thing I thought of was, holy shit, Michael Beasley and Lance Stevenson are teammates?

After what happened last week, those guys maybe

like shower in the locker room together?

After Beasley told him, like, I'm going to get sexual with you.

I'm going to make, we're going to make a sex team together.

Yeah, that was awesome.

I like it.

This is at the United Center, I think.

Should have went.

I like it.

But now that the basketball is over, it's like, this will be a good, it's a good thing, you know, there's not a lot of sports on, especially on the weekends.

It's like, it's good.

It's good stuff.

You know, Ice Cube is at our office on Friday.

I did.

Yep.

You met Tim Woods.

Yeah, you met Tim Woods.

Did you know who the, I didn't realize this, but the Ice Cube Whisperer at our office is?

Donnie?

No, White Sox Dave.

He's got the link to Ice Cube.

Does he?

When Ice Cube comes in town, White Sox Dave's like, hey, you want Ice Cube?

Yeah, he hit me up like a couple months ago.

Now, if I had known

when he initially asked me, do you want to interview Ice Cube on part of my take?

If I had known that we were going to have Tim Woods in the office that same day, I would have said, yes, let's get Ice Cube to play Dungeons and Dragons with us.

And that would have been awesome.

That would have been sick.

That would have been sick.

Yeah, we were playing Dungeons and Dragons, so we couldn't have Ice Cube.

Yeah, Beasley.

Beasley alone is going to sell tickets.

He's so

bad.

He's so entertaining.

Good who's back.

Thanks.

Great who's back, Hank.

Thanks.

My who's back of the week is Armand Duplantis, Hank's friend, Mondo DuPlantis.

Breaking Moose, Breaking Moose.

Shohei Otani will be the starting pitcher for the Los Angeles Dodgers tomorrow night against the San Diego Padres.

I don't know if that's breaking moves.

That was my second who's back.

Oh, shit.

My bad.

Yeah.

I just

saw it on Twitter.

He's back.

He's back.

He's going to be thrown off the mound.

He's going to be actually pitching.

Who's your first?

Mondo Duplantis.

Hank's good friend.

He is the Joey Chestnut of pole vaulting.

Oh,

we don't talk enough about how dominant he's been, and he's, I guess, he's.

He just breaks his own record.

He's Swedish, but he goes, he went to LSU, right?

So we can kind of claim him halfway.

He's broken the world record in pole vaulting, I think, 12 times, which might be as many times as Joey Chestnut has broken the hot dog eating contest record.

Holy shit.

So this guy is like by far and away the best pole vaulter to ever live.

And he just did it again.

He did?

He just keeps getting higher.

Fuck.

Good for Monty.

And he's

25.

AWL.

Is he?

Yep.

60.

We met him the LSU, Alabama game.

That's right.

I ended up at the tailgate with him.

I just thought he was a, like, we were just growing out.

And then

he followed me on Instagram, and I was like, oh, shit, this kid's like an LSU pole vault there.

And this was before he broke any of the records.

And this is also before Hank said I could get that pole vaulting would be the easiest

Olympic event to meddle in with no trade.

I mean,

he verified it.

Shout out for him.

For him, yeah.

He's like, yeah, I didn't give a shit about this.

I'm going to start doing it.

I'm awesome at it.

Shout out, Mondo.

Mondo.

And it's a great nickname, too.

Mondo Duplantis.

Yeah.

Shout out him.

And then Shohei Otani's back.

And then one more.

Were you going to say anything about baseball?

No, yeah, but go ahead.

You take it because I took your Shohei.

I do have it, but go for it.

Rob Manfraud is back.

Rob Manfraud is back.

They're trying to steal dingers from you in Major League Baseball.

They're trying to rob you of dingers.

The athletic just reported

that the seams on the baseballs this year are higher than they have been in the past.

And it's stealing dingers away from everybody.

Yeah.

So they said there's no intentional change to the balls manufacturing, but there is an uptick in drag.

And it's the highest uptick in drag that they've ever had in the stat cast era.

So the balls are going, I think,

four feet shorter than they were last year.

Yeah.

So they're stealing dingers away from you.

Not every pop fly would have been a dinger, but four feet makes a difference.

And the MLB doesn't get any credit for admitting this because Andrew McCutcheon, shout out him,

just said it before that, and

then they had to answer to it.

So there was like a tweet.

Ben Verlander was like, you can't tell me there's not something going on with these balls when Juan Soto absolutely ripped one and it was warning track power.

And then McCutcheon said, I was told by a rep for MLB that the balls are indeed different this year.

They start stated higher seams, which produces more drag on baseball, causing baseballs to not travel as far as they should.

When asked why, I was told every baseball is hand-sewn, so no ball is the same.

When asked if there's something that can be done about correcting the current performance of this year's baseball, I was told there was nothing that can be done about it this season, but they are working hard on getting to the bottom of why the seams are higher.

So, yeah,

we're all trying to get away from it.

Why can't can't they fix it, though, in the season?

So I did not know that every ball was hand-sewn.

Neither did I.

That's kind of crazy because what MLB goes through hundreds of thousands of balls in a year.

That's true.

Well, they just said that it wasn't.

It's MLB, dude.

The league says that it is.

So if you're a pitcher, you got to fucking

make sure you stay healthy and pitch.

Hand sewn where

on the baseball.

No, like, where are they doing?

Like, that's a lot.

Yeah, where do they do it?

Well, the company that makes baseballs is actually owned by Major League Baseball.

Also, this is not as crazy as you think, Hank, because, like, isn't every NFL football made from the same two people every year?

Yeah, but there's like 100,000 balls that get used in a baseball game.

No, of course, of course.

But, like, they do do these weird things.

There's like a couple that makes every NFL football.

Yeah, well, listen, Hank has always been adamant that balls should not be doctored in any way, shape, or form.

Who?

Did you find out where?

Costa Rica.

Oh.

Hundreds of employees produces 2.4 million baseballs annually, 1.2 million of which are deemed good enough for MLB games.

I would like that job to just be like, yep.

Nope.

We should write a new movie.

Like National Treasure, but it's Foul Ball Guy doing a raid on Costa Rica, getting all the balls before they can even go out.

He's found a way to capture them all.

Thoughts and prayers to the Foul Ball Guy.

I know.

He's not getting as many dingers to catch.

I know.

His numbers are going to be.

He might have to go back to foul territory.

He should sue MLB for taking away his livelihood.

Now, actually, the more interesting story about baseballs in one family is that guy that just rubs the mud on him.

Yeah.

The guy that harvests only one guy is allowed to harvest mud that then gets rubbed on every single baseball that's used in a baseball game.

I think that's what I was thinking.

And he sells like,

I think he sells to each team individually, and they get to rub the balls with mud for like 30 seconds, and then they're deemed worthy to pitch.

Yeah.

Give us more dingers.

Yeah, they're taking away dingers from us.

This is going to negatively affect the dingers-only league.

It is.

Okay, My Who's back.

I got a couple.

First is the Bengals.

They have restarted their conversations with Trey Hendrickson, so that's good.

They're just playing a shell game.

Yeah.

That's all they're doing.

They're like, okay, well, our first-round pick is pissed off at us, so now we'll just go renegotiate with Trey.

And then once that blows up, then we'll go back to our first-round pick, and then we'll sign him, and then Trey's going to be upset.

Yeah.

They also went viral because someone took a picture of their weight room, and there's a slogan on the wall that says, a Bengal is fat, physical, hungry, accountable teammate.

Yeah, I like that.

Fat Debo, P-H-A-T.

Yeah, there you go.

When Max was saying it, that's how you're spelling it, right, Max?

Oh, Max, I found some...

Oh, shit.

What, Fat Debo?

Yeah.

I'll say it for the end of the show.

I got to find it.

I found some rage for you.

I came across some rage from a Chiefs fan who basically was like,

basically a Chiefs fan who's like, I'm not owned in the saddest way possible.

We'll do it at the end of the show.

And they got absolutely dominated in the Super Bowl.

Yeah.

They didn't get dominated.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah.

And then my other who's back is dumb internet pets that surely won't go wrong.

So this one is a woman trying to maybe go viral on

TikTok or Instagram.

And she was doing a dance.

And she said, if the Phillies don't make the playoffs this season, I'll do whatever the top comment says.

Max, I sent it to you.

I DM'd it to you.

Hank, you want to read the top comment of this girl?

Sister, get pregnant by a homeless guy one?

Yeah, that's exactly what the top comment is.

Top comment has,

let's see, it has.

That girl does this.

She does this for like every Eagles game.

62,000 likes.

She never does them.

She never does them.

Let a homeless guy get you pregnant.

All right, so that's bullshit.

If the Phillies don't make the playoffs, I want to...

She needs to get pregnant.

She literally does this.

She does that for every single Eagles game.

Like, if the Eagles lose, I will do what the top comment says.

That's bullshit.

And she never does.

I don't like that.

That's bad.

That's bad karma.

That's very bad karma.

Do you have a who's back for us, Zach?

I can do a who's back for you.

Yes, I got one for you.

Let's go.

I got one.

My who's back of the week is Barbers, gentlemen who cut hair professionally.

Oh.

That is because I'm new to the area, new to the state.

I've had the same guy for quite a while.

I didn't know what all went into the barbersphere, so you say, what they got going on nowadays.

Have you guys tried to get a haircut in the area recently from a new barber?

We're going to get you set up.

We got you hooked up.

We're going to get you set up.

Our guy, Joel, comes in a van and cuts the whole office's hair.

Oh, you've got a haircut guy.

Yeah, he literally comes.

He shows up, and you don't have to, you just walk outside and get your haircut.

But

tell me about your experience with the barber sphere.

So I've been trying to just find a place to get a haircut.

It's been like several weeks, and I've really needed one, right?

So I'm looking online.

I'm trying to figure out where I can go in the area.

You pull up, they only do the app appointments, so you can't call in anymore and try to get a spot.

You can't wait in line only through the app.

Then you're looking to get a haircut.

You're like, okay, they're like $60 to $80.

I'm like, okay, I'm like, oh, you got a beer?

That'll be $160.

So we're doubling that.

Then there's a place down the street.

They do haircuts and cocktails.

So now there's barbers' bars going in.

I just didn't know.

They got fancy with it.

The barbers are up.

And then there's guys down a little bit further down the street doing featured spots.

So like, oh, this guy's in town for the next four days, like a a tour.

Like, so book your appointment now.

A barber's got a featured spot?

They're doing featured spots in barbershops.

Like a guest set?

Yeah.

Yes.

That's insane.

Featured barber.

New York was an even bigger racket, but it is.

The whole thing is crazy.

That's why I go to sport clips.

Yes.

Have you?

Have you guys seen like barber TikTok?

Yeah, I've seen some.

It's crazy.

It's massive.

There's so many different barbers that are famous TikTokers, and they have these like 12-year-old kids come in, and they look like super nerdy, and they put like sunglasses on them.

And then they're like, My girlfriend wants me to get a 16-guard.

I don't know what that means, but they always say that.

And then they, and then they, and then the barber cuts their hair, and then he puts earrings and a chain on the kid, and it's like, now you're going to fuck all the, all the bitches, every single one.

And it's like 10 barbers who do the same exact formula for these like 12-year-old kids.

Be like, now you're going to fuck somebody.

Barbers are up now.

Let's do that for Zach.

Yeah.

Yeah, we should.

We should.

We should.

Next time Men's Mobile comes in, that's a great idea.

So, yeah,

we'll get, let's get you booked at the most expensive haircut you can get this week.

No, we'll do it with, let's do it with men's.

No, we'll do it.

Okay, let's do it.

Joe put it on there.

All right, perfect.

But yes, barbers are up.

It's insane.

Yeah, I guess it's one of those things that, like, barbers for the longest time kind of didn't get an afterthought in society.

And now that they

have phones and can get on TikTok.

Barbers.

What did you say, memes?

No, whose mic is on.

How often does that happen where memes just talks back to us without like black?

Yeah, I pretty much live listen to the podcast.

I need you to start writing those down.

Max is showing me the TikTok.

I'm big on Barber Facebook.

Barber you transformatively on Facebook.

Well, I run the part of my tape.

Oh, true, true.

Everybody should go follow that.

But they transform homeless people.

Oh.

And it's like, it's very addicting.

That's like the dude.

That's like the landscaper.

You guys watch those videos?

Yeah.

That guy rocks.

He just shows up to random houses.

He's like, I'll do it for free.

Yep.

Those are awesome.

I love those.

Yeah.

What's that guy's name?

Spreading positivity.

Yeah.

Zach might know.

I want to start doing that, but with my power washer.

Zach, do you know the guy's name?

I believe it was a BP Mowing, but I could be wrong.

Oh, okay.

Did you watch any concrete pours this weekend?

No, I tried to go back to the newest video today, and I got carried away cleaning it up, so I haven't watched it yet, so I'm going to watch it tonight.

Okay, nice.

Nice.

Are they pouring more concrete?

They're always pouring big slabs.

Big slabs only.

So this kid is like, my girl said, I need a 16 guard oil.

She's going to leave me.

And he's like 12.

He is so young.

This is ridiculous.

I always felt weird accepting drink.

I had a barber shop in Brooklyn.

My barber was awesome, but like he had cocktails and stuff.

I just was like, I always felt weird.

Like I just want to get a haircut and get out.

Yeah, I had one in Austin that was like, you go in, you get a beer.

The thing is, it's hard to drink beer while you get your haircut because you can't really move your head as much.

Right.

Yeah, I guess you drink it before.

I mean, I'm afraid of doing more things while drunk.

$150 plus for me to get a haircut and beer trim in Manhattan.

Really?

Such a racket.

I just, my barbershop in Brooklyn was good.

It was still like $35.

The only thing that he would get me on is every year I would give him like $500 for Super Bowl squares, and he would just never give me the numbers.

You weren't going to win

every single year.

He's like, You want to buy a square?

I'd be like, Of course I do.

And then I just would never, he would never follow up.

We should send Scotty Scheffler to one of these barbers.

Yeah.

Glow him up.

Just give him a turn.

Take him earrings.

He's like, No, we'll look at your head now.

Okay, let's get to our interviews.

We got two great interviews talking more sports.

We got Biz, who's the best, talking some Stanley Cup final.

And then we have Smiley Kaufman live from Oakmont.

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Okay, here he is, Paul Bissenet.

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest, one of our best friends.

It is Paul Bissinet,

hockey analyst who is covering the Stanley Cup final, has been there for every single game,

called the series over in game four, chokehold.

The Florida Panthers had...

The game was over.

Oh, the game was over.

Anaconda chokehold.

Anaconda chokehold, which wasn't true because the Oilers tied up.

But then game five happened on Saturday night.

The panthers went into the oilers barn and just flexed on them and it was

you you you tell us like that was such an impressive game coming from a game where they got their guts ripped out to have to go all the way to edmonton and you feel like edmonton has all of the momentum in the series and everything and the panthers are like no no we're still the better team we're going to show you tonight

Yeah, they're just so confident.

And like, even after like giving away that game, like Paul Maurice, the coach, like his comments and like right down from leadership to the last guy, they just knew that they were going to bounce back.

Like they're such a close team too, because like Brian Boucher, as soon as we got to Edmonton, he went down for like a steam steamer, like in the big gym at the JW Marriott.

And he got in there and like the whole team, the Panthers were in there all together in the steam room, like boy steam room, right?

So they're just such a close-knit group and you knew they were going to find a way to bounce back.

I definitely thought it was going to be a better game than it was.

But right from when you saw him in the tunnel going out, Brad Marshawn, how Lucy was with all their like pregame, like, you know, bag taps or however they do their fucking high fives, they just looked like a very confident group.

And really right from puck drop, they dominated.

There was a little bit of a late push by Edmonton boys, but this Florida team is so fucking good.

Yeah.

Like you look through the lineup and the depth, like Marshawn's line with Luc Durin and Lundell, like they're performing to like a first line standard and they get to play against the other team's third line so they're just built to win and they also have some good young players on very fair contracts and it's a hard cap lead like that lundell kid the third line center incredible and then loose the rain and who marshawn plays with and a big reason why marshawn has had the playoff that he's had yeah he has the most nhl stanley cup finals goals among among active players right now and he's like he's a good 37 he's 37 years old he has been the difference in this series i mean is it is it shocking to you just how good he's been?

Because

I know that was a trade that everyone's like, oh, shit, the Panthers already won the cup and then they add a guy like this, but

it's been insane to watch him play at such a high level

at 37 years old and be the best player on the ice that he shares with Connor McDavid.

No doubt.

And this is the Brad Marchawn that dominated for like, I would say probably an eight to 10 year stretch.

Let's say eight to be fair.

That's why I believe he's a Hall of Famer is because he was one of the best clutch wingers in the game for a significant, almost a decade, right?

So coming into this year, he had three offseason surgeries.

So he didn't necessarily look like himself at the start of the year.

And even for me,

they got to name three players to

the Four Nations team as like a precursor to be like, hey, McDavid, Crosby, and Marshawn are officially on.

The states put, I believe, Eichel Matthews and I forget who the defenseman was, but you get the point so by the time the tournament came up i'm like damn like i wonder if they even like if they regret naming him one of the three guys just because he didn't look like himself he looked like he'd lost a step but mind you he was coming back from these injuries so when he got moved over to florida he got like a i think i want to say like a two three week break where he was able to like heal up kind of get back to himself And then right before playoffs, he hit the ground running.

And

yeah, I'm shocked he's doing it to this this level because he was always a good puck protector.

He was always a smart player who had very good spatial awareness, who like won a lot of his battles.

He was good along the walls, good defensively.

But the fact that not only throughout these playoffs, but now in the finals, like he's doing it with these individual efforts.

Like in game five, it was off a face-off, five-on-five face-off.

Next thing you know, shoots out of the gate, beats his forward.

Then he baits Ekhomb, one of the best

defensive defensemen in the league to the left, goes inside, splits the D, and goes down and fucking goes top shelf

on Pickard.

So just the fact that he's doing it with these unbelievable individual efforts at 37 years old, where I don't want to see people roll him off, but they never thought he was going to get back to peak Brad Marshawn.

And we're seeing it at 37 years old.

He is, I think, second in line right now to win the ConSmyth.

The guy who was going to be out of playoffs with the Boston Bruins, I believe he asked the Bruins, I think he wanted like a three or four year deal at like $7 million a year, maybe seven and a half.

And they were like, no, no, we're not giving to you.

And then he fucking goes there and does what he does.

He probably will get seven, eight million in free agency unless he fucking signs back in Florida for a hometown discount and they win another fucking cup.

Yeah, I mean, that goal that he had was the goal of the Stanley Cup finals so far.

And he has one more good game.

I think he does win the ConSmythe.

I think that's like it's it's him and Bennett, right?

If he has a two-goal game in game six and they close out, I could see him winning it over Sam Bennett.

But it's hard to take it away from Sam Bennett.

He's got 15 goals in these playoffs.

13 of them are on the road.

Yeah.

13 road goals.

Crazy.

I think Mitch Marner has 13

playoff goals in his entire career.

This guy did it in one run.

He's a fucking second line center making $4 million.

So he's going to get his payday.

Now, going back, PFT, to what you said, you said it was the goal of the playoffs.

Which one?

The one off the faceoff or the one when he fucking walked the defenseman Wallman?

Which one are you talking about?

I was talking about the one where he weaves in and out.

That one.

Yeah.

And you can make an argument when he fucking danced Wallman and goes five-hole to seal the deal in the game.

That was it.

Or the breakaway goal that he scored in overtime in game two.

So he is just on fire right now.

I believe six goals in these Stanley Cup finals.

And as I mentioned,

the leader among active players.

Like we're talking about the Sidney Crosby's, Alexander Ovechkins, like Brad Marshaw, the leader in Stanley Cup finals goals.

Yeah, it's been pretty crazy to watch.

We actually, we had most of the behind the scenes guys on your podcast on part of my take last week.

Sorry for not getting permission.

We were trying to reach you.

We were trying to reach Wit to find out who's going to start in game five, if they were going to go back to Skinner or not for the Oilers.

And what did they say?

I think they split it up.

It was Oldie said, don't think.

Merle said, got to go Pickard.

Your memes said, gotta stick with Skinner.

And then Yan said, I don't care.

Yeah, he said he doesn't care.

Whoever they play, they play.

It was

some good insight.

Your team was

a mess on

whatever night it was.

They were having a great time.

They were having a great time, but they were basically like, it sounds like Whitney just kicked everyone out and they were all scattered.

And at one point, Grinnelli was like, yeah, he's over there.

He's over there.

Biz is on TNT.

And it was just perfect chiclets because it's like everyone's buckled and it's like but one of the main guys is on national television right now

great crew it was great so yeah i'll ask you now that we have you on are they going to go back to skinner now so uh going back to wit though that was the first time i think he's gotten to like hardcore fandom level where he was being a diva about it yeah that was the like like he looked like i looked like with the leafs like but keep in mind i would never kick anybody out of my box no no he even went beyond leafs Jockstiffer.

He went psycho Oilers fan with Kate with the tits out.

You know what I'm saying?

Wick went full Kate tits out, Tits McGee.

But you're going to go back to Skinner now.

So crazy, because he's lost his net for three times in the last two, two Stanley Cup runs, right?

Two playoff runs.

So they don't have a true number one.

And I really feel

I feel bad for McDavid and Dreisidel because they don't even collectively command that much money.

Like McDavid makes 12 and a half.

Sure, yeah, that's a lot, but he's worth every fucking cent, if not more.

And Dre Seidel is on the last year of, I believe, an $8.5 million contract.

So they just haven't filled in some holes.

So

Pickard hasn't had an incredible run.

That was his first loss in these playoffs.

It's been such a bizarre run because he took over the net in game three.

for Edmonton when they'd blown the first two against the LA Kings, where they should have lost that first round series.

So it's even the fact that they're here, it's crazy.

Skinner's a better puck handler and Florida's four check is so good.

So right off the hop, it just benefits you more.

He played unbelievable and in game four, he stood on his head, but yet they still scored three goals in the first period.

It should have been five.

So they had to switch him to change the momentum up.

So, but then all of a sudden Picker played out of his fucking mind again, like he did when he took the net over the first time.

And my understanding is Skinner wasn't happy about it because he's like, it wasn't my fucking fault.

You guys hung me out to drive.

But nonetheless, nonetheless, Skinner went in there.

They did the job and they get the win.

You have to stick with Skinner, but, or excuse me, Pickard, but he just, Florida's too strong, and he didn't have a good game.

So now you go back to Skinner.

The benefit, like I said, you have is he's a better puck handler.

So for how hard Florida comes in the four check, at least it's like helping your D out a little bit to a certain degree.

So what's going on before the games with Skinner?

Where he's the other goalies, it's the Panthers backup, right?

Is getting into his head,

just standing in front of him, just mocking him to his face.

And and skinner's just letting this happen

yeah so skinner that was kind of one of the funny things about game uh four and the fact that pickard ended up getting thrown in the net because so during warm-up and they did this last year and they also did it in game three skinner has a routine the goalie stewart skinner because they have another one jeff skinner he's out by the red line and he kind of just goes over his movements and he faces the other team's direction rare i i've never seen that i don't know why he does it Maybe it was like a superstitious thing.

So all of a sudden, Vanicek, their backup, like last year, the Stolars did it.

He goes up and starts mimicking his move.

So trying to fuck with him as the starter.

So Pickard ended up going over and hitting his stick on Vanacek's pad and saying, hey,

let's go stretch over here.

Let's go over here.

He was not like too aggressive about it.

And then next thing you know, he got shelled for three in the first.

And then that guy who went over to have his other goalies back is in the net.

So it was kind of a bizarre thing.

That's how the Panthers are.

And I think, even to troll the world even further, after the game five win, when they went into Edmonton and smoked them, Gadjovich, who had the team puck from the win prior, where you give out the player of the game, hey, this guy.

He gave it to Vanacek, who didn't even play.

They are just fucking with everybody.

That's Florida Panthers hockey.

They beat the shit out of you.

They chirp you.

They fucking win their fights and they outscore you and they laugh on the way out of town.

And they've now won, I believe they've tied a record, an NHL record, or maybe they've beaten it with 10 road victories throughout these playoffs.

They're 10 and three on the road.

So there's only a few teams throughout Stanley Cup history that have done that much damage going into the way of buildings, especially Edmonton.

That's the biggest home advantage in the league.

Watching a pregame, like the whole ceremony calling their team out onto the ice, it's biblical.

It's like it's hockey royalty.

We talk about Toronto and Montreal being the mecca of the hockey world.

There's no one who fucking is as hardcore about hockey as Albertans, specifically in Edmonton.

They live.

They are living for this.

Okay, so I got a question for you.

This is a segment we've done in the past.

We haven't done it in a while, but it's questions from a first grader.

So I got a question from a first grader.

This is Timmy.

He was wondering, he writes into PMT, and we sometimes do questions for a first grader.

So Timmy is wondering,

Timmy is saying,

hey, Mr.

Bissonette and PMT,

I'm a new hockey fan, and everyone keeps talking about Connor McDavid being the best.

Why has he only scored one goal in the Stanley Cup finals?

I knew that.

He tried to score more goals.

This is from Timmy.

This is not us.

We know that he affects the game in millions of different ways.

but timmy's wondering why connor mcdavid has only scored one goal in five games shouldn't he try scoring more

so

i just to go back to mar shaw earlier that's why i believe he's a hall of famer is because i just said he's gotten like what is it now 12 goals all time in stanley cup finals mind you Not quite the matchups that Conor McDavid has.

That's why I said earlier with McDavid and Dreis Title, they need a better team they do they can't do it all themselves the goal factor i think that yeah there's probably a

it's fair to question the fact that he hasn't scored more goals but he's playing against the best defensive center on the planet and sasha barkov um

and

yeah it's hard it's hard like well

try not to swear try not to swear it's timmy it's a first grader

he he's been a little bit snake snake bitten.

He should have more goals.

He did get one last game.

He had a great opportunity early in the hockey game as well.

He should have put that one in.

He whiffed on it.

But yeah,

I would say that that's the one thing that you could criticize him on is the fact that he doesn't have more goals in these Stanley Cup finals and back-to-back years.

But in the same breath, he just became the third fastest all time to 150 playoff points.

Yeah.

He's over 30 again in these playoffs.

We know this.

Yeah, yeah, we know.

Listen,

if we were answering this, we'd be like, Timmy, you're a fucking shithead.

Stop box score watching, dude.

McDavid is unbelievable.

It's not all about gold.

And Hank screens all these questions, too, and he's a known McDavid hater.

Right.

So we would tell Timmy to fuck off.

We have one more from a

fuck off.

He's a first grader.

You told me not to swear.

Yeah, well, you shouldn't swear because he sees you on TV.

He doesn't care.

We can swear.

He knows we swear, but he sees

you TV.

Yeah, yeah, you're his hero.

He's a big TNT fan.

Yeah.

And then we have one, Hankson.

Let me call Timmy aside.

Let me call Timmy aside.

Okay, all right.

Timmy.

Timmy, I think it's a fair question because he only has one goal and he is the best player in the world.

He is the best player.

He is more of a giver, right?

He's a giver.

He likes to set his teammates up.

That's a good quality to have.

But sometimes, Timmy, in life, you need to be a little bit more selfish.

And you need to shoot the pill a little bit more.

and you maybe need to get into those hard areas yeah a little bit more because come playoff time that's where a lot of the goals are scored so Timmy I'm not gonna shit on you for this question and I know I just swear don't go tell your mom if you tell her Timmy's mom's hot by the way

in the fucking face time I fucking see you

That's all I got to say.

It's tough luck.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

I like that.

Doing another one, yes.

Timmy, Hey, if you fucking tell your old lady that I swore, I'm going to put your old man in the cuck chair.

I'm going to hit the old lady on the workbench.

You're going to show me.

I'm going to show my kitchen.

You're going to show Timmy's mom.

You're going to show Timmy's dad what it's like to be selfish.

Biz is going to come first, Timmy.

Speaking of these playoffs, I'm going to give her the oil driller.

I'm going to bring her away from the bottom of the business.

I hope there's no workbench, Timmy.

I hope there's one AWS actually listening in the car with a son named named Timmy.

Is that me?

In this age, great.

Like, what the hell?

What's my body?

What he's going to do to my mom?

Okay,

we have another question.

Yeah, get it ready.

This is from Rand.

Rand is also a first grader, Dripping Springs, Texas.

He says, hey, Mr.

Bissinette, Biz Nasty.

Love watching you on TNT.

Isn't this kind of bullshit that the Florida Panthers get to exploit the CBA by not having a state income tax when other states don't get that same luxury.

Why won't Biz be a man and explain his passion with his chest when he's talking to Commissioner Gary Bettman when he's on the desk?

Oh, a first grader?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rand.

Rand.

Dripping Springs, Texas.

He's like, it's bullshit.

Did you chicken out to Commissioner Bettman?

Where's the name Rand come from?

I don't know.

His name is just Randall.

Randall, maybe?

Randall.

Yeah, it's Randall.

R-A-N-D.

Randy.

It's Randolph.

Randolph or Randall.

Oh, short for Randy.

Okay.

Short for Randy.

My apologies.

Is that a fact?

Or are those two separate names?

It's Randolph.

It's Randolph.

Rand is short for Randy.

I'm going to have to fact-check that after this podcast.

You know,

so we only have so much time on the panel, right?

And obviously, Gary Bettman's done an incredible job in getting this league into the place that it's been.

There's certain things I don't necessarily...

What do you mean?

I'm not giving him a pepper grinder.

You better fucking fucking simmer that over there, PFT.

All right.

I'm trying to be respectful.

Yeah, no, you're doing it.

Yeah.

Rand, if you're, if you're just

not watching, PFT just mimicked Fallacio.

He did the blowjob move.

Yeah.

Like I'm fucking getting on my knees for Gary because I thought he's done a good job running the league the last 30, 35 years, however long he's been in power.

But going back to my point is, so he said nobody was complaining 17

years ago when these teams came into the league and

this was the same case, right?

There was no state income tax and players, he said management, building a strong team, other factors are going to lure in players.

Yeah, there's no doubt.

They've done an incredible job of doing that.

People are taking my question to him as if, though, I'm taking away from what Florida's built.

That's not the case.

But 17 years ago, when he, whatever it was, the new CBA, and it was all of a sudden a hard cap, the cap was $44 million.

So the difference now with the cap going to $100 million and it's going to keep surpassing that, when you add up the discount that these players can take from a hard cap standpoint compared to 17 years ago is a larger degree.

So of the 100 million, like, I mean, if you're talking 11% state income tax compared to other like Canadian provinces and state of New York and California, you're talking about $10 million.

So for instance, Sam Bennett just did what he did in these playoffs, 15 goals, 13 road goals.

Probably he's going to take home a con smythe and he's been on this bargain contract, which they seem to have a lot of.

He's a second-line center on a Stanley Cup winning team.

He could get 10 million at free agency.

They could probably end up keeping him just because of what they've built for like 7.75.

My understanding is they've offered him 7.25 million per year for an eight-year deal, and he said no.

Well, obviously, because that between what he knows he can get in free agency, I think he might even, he could get potentially offered 10.5 million over seven years because seven is the max years you can offer him from the like the team that you weren't on.

Florida, because he's like quote unquote homegrown, they're allowed to offer him that eighth year, which is obviously an advantage to keeping the player that you already had.

So I truly believe that he's going to end up signing in between the

eight-year range, eight years at 7.75 to 8.25 as opposed to having to another team from canada or the other states offer him 10 and a half million and it'll it'll be the same exact take-home for him so it's such an advantage like you're keeping these good players at a at a hard cap discount and as i said all the other factors that gary mentioned as to why he doesn't want to change the rule hey all good but from a non-biased perspective you have to understand that that for him and the league's benefit, it helps that the teams in these southern states are growing because the population of the states, and if hockey grows, there's so much more upside to then

Canada, you could win 20 games.

Your fucking team's going to still do the same thing, right?

Like if you're in Vancouver or Toronto, it's still a fucking juggernaut.

It's still worth $3, $4 billion.

They're still going to make all this money.

It benefits him and the league for these southern states and these places that he's put these team to grow the game in North America.

So, for all the reasons he wants to keep it the same,

all good.

But you're a fucking moron if you're a Florida Panthers fan and you're tweeting at me.

It's like, there's a fucking advantage.

You fucking tell me.

Wait, there's a fucking advantage to it.

I've had countless people in hockey and agents tweet at me.

So these mouth breather people on Twitter, like,

Gary dunked on you.

It's like, bro, first of all, first of all, I got awful announcing with 6 million views on the clip.

So you don't think I'm throwing this guy a fucking softball, fucking knowing what I'm doing?

You don't think I know what I'm fucking doing?

Like,

that's all anybody wanted to talk about the rest of the game.

You're fucking welcome.

Some fucking peasant fifth liner.

who played for who scored seven goals in the NHL next to the great one, next to Henrik Lundquist Hall of Famer.

I'm throwing this guy a lobby so he can dunk on me on national television.

And everybody's talking about it.

But if you have half a fucking, fucking i'm trying to make good television here i'm not trying to fucking appease these brain-dead morons who don't know what a fucking state tax advantage means yeah i mean that was a great well-thought out group economics answer from paul bissene yeah terrain once again once again bill zito um uh um roberto luwongo everybody in the florida panthers management um

Can you Google the owner's name?

I think it's Vinnie Viola.

That's a great name.

I don't want to fuck it up, the pronunciation pronunciation of it, but he has a military background.

They have built this organization soup to nuts.

I heard him and all of his

buddies from,

God, I'm really butchering this, but he went to one of these naval academies and they're like

parkour.

Yeah, yeah, he went to West Point.

He went to West Point.

They're like the David Goggins of the business world.

They're fucking up at 6 a.m.

Like they're, they're machines, these guys.

And they obviously hired the the right people and built this absolute wagon when odds were against them he i want to say he bought the team for 200 million was offered seven eight hundred million for it and was like absolutely not could have took his profit of 250 300 and ran and continue to build it where i would say if they win another stanley cup this is a it's a two two billion dollar brand yeah so to what they've built top down and to the lundells making Lundell makes $5 million a year.

Unbelievable contract.

Luce the Reinan on that third line.

I think he's got two more years left at $3.5 million.

Shasha Barkov, best two-way center in the world, $10 million.

Best goaltender in the world, Sergei Bobrovsky, $10 million.

There's not one player on their team making more than $10 million.

Gustav Forsling, they picked him up off waivers.

He makes $6.2 million.

He's the best.

Probably right now, I would label him the best shutdown D-man in the world ahead of Jacob Slavin.

Here's the list goes on.

Yeah, yeah.

I feel like the question is less about the taxes in states and the LTR loophole, which has been a loophole for a long time.

And the Panthers did it this year with Kachuck being out after the Four Nations.

And every

company

has it.

The Hawks did it.

Everyone does it.

But I'm saying, if you're going to complain about something, I'm not talking about you, but I'm saying someone else.

Maybe start complaining about that because that does help a lot.

A lot of these teams go over the cap with a guy on LTR, then they get him back for the, for the playoffs, and then they have a roster that looks better.

Incredible, incredible point.

And I think that that would probably actually, yeah,

let's applaud them.

Everybody at home,

not if you're driving, not if you're driving.

I don't want to get rid of it, by the way, because it does help.

Eventually, if you have a team that you're rooting for that's going to be in the playoffs, you're going to probably use this loophole.

You're going to hope that this loophole happens.

So, let's explain what the loophole is.

So, because it's a hard cap, like for instance, Kachuk was actually hurt.

He got hurt at Four Nations.

So, in this example, the player was actually hurt.

So, he goes on long-term IR.

So, they're allowed to use that cap space money in order to sign someone else and bring them in as long as Kachuk sits out till the end of the season once playoff begins.

In certain cases, you can activate them like a few games before because the money ends up still working out.

But, everybody listening, you get the gist of it.

Where I feel personally that when Vegas has done it and exploited that rule, you first of all have to have an owner who's willing to spend money.

So if you have

a cowboy type owner who doesn't give a fuck,

they'll do that like Bill Foley will.

And

I do believe that Mark Stone was hurt in these cases, but they're stretching out the recovery time.

So where maybe this would have been a three-week injury, it's like, oh, all of a sudden, he's gone for seven weeks.

One of the situations, mind you, they said he had an issue with his spleen, like a spleen thing.

So, that's nothing to fuck around with.

I don't know if that's easy to just say there's a spleen issue.

I don't know.

But if that was the case, I'm not going to bitch about that one.

But he has had back issues where, once again, all of a sudden, game one of playoffs, well, holy fuck, Mark Stone sure looks like he's flying out there.

You know, it's like a thoroughbred waiting to fucking pounce and out of the gate, right?

So, this is something this year where Florida also and majority of cup teams do exploit, but Kachuk is playing hurt right now.

Like he is not 100%.

So not only did he sit out, he's like, well, now we're playing for keeps.

I'll play 50%.

So I'm not going to bitch about that rule that they're exploiting for the Panthers this year.

I would more say they just have unbelievable players on these unbelievable contracts.

Sam Bennett, they traded him for a sixth rounder.

They essentially gave him away in Calgary.

And once again, he makes $4 million.

He scored 15 fucking goals in the playoffs.

It's crazy.

4 million bucks.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

Is it good ownership?

Good general manager?

Willing to spend money.

Good organization.

Good organization.

Organization.

As you would say.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So Tuesday night, we got

a pretty important game, I would say.

A must-win for the Oilers.

Are they in a chokehold right now?

Is this series over?

It's weird.

This fucking Oilers team, like every time you think they're dead, it's a jason voorhees they just come back right

i personally believe in my gut that florida is going to close out at home in in six games but skinner's going to go back in i boys when i say i hated some of the lineup decisions they they made in edmonton this knob lock guy's done so many good things he's pushed all the right buttons but even before the game i was like why is this capping and coming out he's going to go back in evander kane has taken some stupid penalties and all of a sudden, at the start of the series, he's playing on the second line, scores a goal, being a factor.

Now he's played the last two games on the fourth line.

They need to say, call him in and say, Evander, you've played pretty shitty a couple of these games and you've had some horrible starts for us.

But the only way we're going to beat these guys is if you're playing at your best and you're being a fucking asshole.

You're running guys through the end wall and you're scoring goals and you're disrupting Bob.

We're putting on you back on the second line with Dre Seidel.

Go fuck shit up.

Do that.

Put Kappanen back in.

Put Klingberg, the defenseman, who's a better puck mover.

Troy Stetcher has done an incredible job.

It sucks.

I think he's the seventh defenseman on the Stanley Cup winning team, but they need to put Klingberg back in and they need to play 6D.

And that's how the lineup needs to be.

And I think that they have a chance to go in there and somehow pull out a victory if they do those lineup changes and somehow they catch Florida sleeping, but I think that they're too deep.

They're going to close this fucker out at home.

And unfortunately for McDavid and Dry Seidel, they just don't have a good enough overall team.

And it would be an all-time plans cancellation for me personally because

I'm sure you saw it, but Witt has totally reversed it on us, being like, if it's game seven, you got to come and basically

the Oilers win game six and drag them back to Alberta,

the experience that you would see in that building would be like nothing you've ever experienced.

I'm in.

I've already made plans.

Like, I'm saying the cancellation of these plans would be the greatest.

It's too good to be true.

It would be euphoric to be like, oh, I thought I was going to go to Edmonton this weekend.

And again, I'm in, so I'm going to go and I'm going to have a great time if it happens.

But to be like, now I don't have any plans will be all time.

And credit to Whitney.

He's a genius.

He's completely flipped it on me.

Every day I wake up and it's just people being like, everything Whitney does for you and you won't go to Edmonton and just like shaming me.

He's very smart move by Whitney, but he was playing chess on us.

It's too good to be true.

Like, I want you to experience that so bad because you have such a big platform, both of you guys, with like just sports people in general.

And I don't know what percentage of those people genuinely care about hockey, but they would have to watch and pay attention and to try to witness the, like Gretzky says that McDavid's better than him.

So like this is like other, let's put him second next to Gretzky.

This is the biggest generational champ, um, uh, biggest generational talent with the opportunity to win the big one when he doesn't even have a, that, that good of a team compared to Florida.

Like he would have to do something magical.

And something magical would have to happen.

And you would get to see the pregame ritual to bring them on the ice that is like no other in the NHL.

Like no other, maybe in sports.

You have to be there.

And what if I won?

What if I won the 50-50?

If you won the 50, you know what the 50-50 would be?

I bet you it'd be $15 million.

Yeah, but that's loonies.

That's loonies, right?

That's $1.15 million U.S.

right now.

Maybe a little bit more.

Okay.

Can you explain to us why Canada loves the 50-50 so much?

I respect it.

I love it.

So, so in Alberta, legally, they open it up to the province.

You don't need to be at the game.

Go online and purchase lottery.

So it's basically lottery.

And just based on the hype around the games, it's just like, oh, it's up to

all these Albertans are just all texting each other.

Oh, you see what the 50-50 was at?

Rick from Red Deer, he's always, oh, hey, bud, make sure you get your ticket, bud.

50-50 is over 10 sheets, bud.

Oh, man.

I'm excited.

I'm

heading down to the boot and blade for breakfast if you want to join me.

But fuck, man, make sure you get your 50-50 ticket.

All right, Biz, one last question.

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they've been crushing these finals uh you know the live shows they've been doing the streams everything it's awesome uh and they got the draft coming up uh my last question though how is the health How's the gout?

I don't know if you saw, you might have gotten tagged a little bit, but my daughter gave me a Father's Day like card that she did at school, and it like had questions like,

what's daddy's age?

What's daddy say all the time?

And it was like, what is daddy's favorite food?

And she said steak.

And everyone's like, dude, going to be, you're going to go down the route of, of, biz here.

So, how are you feeling?

Are you still eating 20 ounces of steak a night?

So, I don't think it was the steak.

Okay.

Okay.

Tell us, Dr.

Biz.

So, I think I might have been overdoing it on the sodium packs.

Wait, you were doing sodium packs on top of the steak?

I would,

you know, I tend to go down the steam room sauna.

So, I would say on average, I was doing between two and three three of those sodium packs you put in your water a day okay keep in mind like i drink a ton of water right so i need you need something to retain it so i think i just it overdid it on the on the sodium packs like and listen like i like the bot they send me the body armor ones i love them i love all the body armor the water is delicious like all the flavors like i love body armor so i just think everything in moderation like maybe steak and sodium packs yeah you were adding sodium packs yeah

I have had the NHL liver king, Jacob Chikrin, reach out to me.

He goes, bud, I eat steak every day.

He goes, it's not the steak.

Steak will not do that to you.

It's something else in your diet.

So if anything, it's taught me like everything else is this summer, I'm going to get continual blood work.

I did last year.

I tried to take a bit of a deeper dive into my health and just really try to get.

everything in that regard on the on the right path like make sure i'm eating the right things knowing what my body maybe doesn't respond well to, more moderation.

And when you're living life on the road as much as we are, sometimes it's hard to keep control.

I would say, and I Wit would agree that I'm very, um, I'm very disciplined with my diet to like a normal person standard.

But hey, man, we're getting older.

We need to figure this out.

So I appreciate your concern with my gout.

If anybody's got it who's listening, like it, I wasn't being a bitch about it.

I thought I broke my foot.

And then i thought maybe we're gonna have to amputate the thing because i had a staph infection or something i didn't know what was happening to my foot so we're past it i had the pills it kind of ridded of it and then now it's just more of like how do i i don't want to just keep taking a pill the rest of my life i think that people tend to just like to mask things with medication where it's like let's try to take a natural approach just figure out my diet and yeah you know if your your health is everything right boys yeah it is as well as everything so take a natural so you're saying the natural approach will not you're not going to curtail your steak eating at all.

You're just going to do less sodium packages.

Oh, I don't think I'll be just eating as much steak just because I don't think I don't need to eat 20 hours.

It was more because I was in this

TNT bubble doing TV every night.

And I just, I'm like, this is my routine.

I like the two steaks.

I like the baked potato.

I get the salad.

And then, and, and then, you know, I have maybe one other thing I go to, but I'm just, I'm thinking about the hockey.

I'm in, I'm in fucking autopilot mode.

Yeah.

So that's why about, you you know, now we were in this rhythm for about two weeks.

And that's when Liam McHugh is like, have you ever gotten gout biz?

And I'm like, no, why?

And

he's like, you're ripping 20 ounces of steak every night and you're having a steak for dinner, a steak for dessert.

So he thought maybe that would lead to it.

Keep in mind, it might still be the steak, but I've had a couple steak advocates saying that it is not the steak.

John Bucherdraw said it wasn't the steak.

So

I might have created a civil war here with the people listening where there's some carnivores who are like, don't blame the steak for your gout, man.

Yeah, I think you just eat only steak from this point on and see if you get rid of gout that way.

And Chikrin, you called him the NHL's Liver King.

He doesn't use light bulbs anymore, right?

Doesn't he have his house lit by just candidates?

I think his teammates are

blowing it out of proportion.

They like to tease him about it.

But I'll say, man,

I had him in Arizona.

Great kid he's playing the best hockey of his career he just signed an insane ticket and he he's the type of guy who he's

what's your screen time a day do you think you guys are on eight hours probably insane i refuse to look yeah insane

i bet you he's getting an hour max like he's not the he's he's really

He's really living in tune with his body and the earth.

And I feel like that's the happiest that anybody would actually be.

These fucking phones must drive us up the fucking wall.

It's facts.

It's facts.

All right, Biz.

I might see you on Friday night.

Thank you.

As always, you're the best.

And we love watching you on TV.

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And now for something completely different.

Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, very special guest, Smiley Kaufman.

He is reporting live from Oakmont.

He was on the call with NBC Sports,

and he saw it all.

A crazy, crazy Sunday.

Finished the U.S.

Open.

We have a lot of questions.

I think there's a lot of course questions, but I wanted to start with JJ Spawn with, I mean, an insane, insane round to start the tour.

He started the day five out of his first six holes were bogeies.

How the hell did he, like, how did he do this?

How did he do it?

He was deader than dead.

He looked so lost, and he comes back and in incredible fashion finishes under par and wins the U.S.

Open.

I mean, it kind of reminds me a little bit of the Cubs, you know, when they

said Rainaway.

Maybe Jason Hayward.

Was it Jason Hayward that gave the speech?

It's everybody in the locker room.

Maybe Hayward was at Oakmont Country Club talking to JJ Spawn at the reset because

I think without that, he never wins this.

I mean, he just was lost.

The composure wasn't there.

He was doing his best, but I'm telling you, he had some of the worst breaks I've ever seen.

Like, every wide that he got in the rough was so bad.

Like, starting at the first hole, I could barely see his golf ball in the rough.

And then he hits it in the rough again, could barely see it again.

And then two, he like, all right, he settles in finally, hits the fairway, and then hits a perfect wet shot.

One bounces, hits the pin, and then spins off 50 yards off the green.

You're just thinking to yourself, maybe it's just going to be one of those days for JJ Spawn.

Yeah, I mean, what he did to come back was just crazy.

And the weather delay that you guys had, I think it was you on the broadcast that said it.

I'm pretty sure it was you.

It was the biggest drops of rain that you've ever seen in your life.

Is that true?

The biggest drops?

How big were these drops?

I mean, I thought it was hail at one point.

So I then kind of like put my my hand out to see, you know, how big these drops really are.

But just picture like the raindrop emoji.

That's kind of how big it I could compare it to.

I don't, if that makes any sense at all.

It was some heavy-ass rain.

Some very heavy rain.

And the place was, I mean, underwater.

It really was.

The greens were totally fine, but we did not need any more water after the rain delay.

And the fairways were definitely feeling it.

Yeah.

So did the course get easier or or harder after the rain because you would think that like you know rain softens things up these greens were super fast did it did it take any of that sting off or did it just present more new challenges

it played longer and the fairways made it to where for the most part the golf balls would remain with a lot of moisture on it and so guys would really struggle to like hit their distances i saw plenty of players look like they hit good shots and then they just aren't able to control their numbers like they normally do um and it really seemed to affect Sam Burns.

I was in the group in front, obviously, with JJ and Victor, but every time I look back, it seemed like when he was hitting a shot, it seemed as if he was disgusted either with his lie or how it came off.

And it's frustrating as a player because you practice to have a chance on the back nine of a Sunday, and then when you throw all these, you know, crazy different circumstances and conditions.

That personally, as a fan and as a broadcaster, you know, it was playable.

It was definitely playable.

I could see the crowd of, okay, maybe the fairways weren't quite what these guys are used to playing, but it's a U.S.

Open, right?

Like, this is, we expect chaos.

We expect, you know, bogeys.

We expect pretty much everything other than a 50-footer being hold on the last hole to win the U.S.

Open, but that's what we end up getting at the end.

Yeah, so, all right, so Sam Burns, because I

explain to me, did he get screwed on 15?

Because that was where it fell apart for him.

He had the shot.

He drives a ball.

It goes right up to the edge of the rough, and it looks like it's sitting in like a very, very wet spot.

Not really standing water, but very wet.

He fucks that shot up, goes into the rough.

Then he, it felt like mentally that kind of took him out of it because he then ends up with a double bogey and is kind of out of the tournament.

But did he, he was, he petitioned for relief, I think, twice on that shot, and he didn't get it.

Did he get screwed?

Does he have a fair gripe?

Well, I think potentially yes.

And I'll tell you what the ruling really is.

So you get casual water relief based off of where you are standing.

And so what that means is if you look down and you look at your feet and water rises up, that's when you get deemed casual water.

But it's not based off of where the golf ball is, which is stupid.

That's where it really is, a silly rule.

There's plenty of silly rules that we have.

That seems to be one that just kind of came out really at the worst time.

And you're right.

He hit it in the one place that you couldn't left a 15.

That was absolutely no man's land over there.

So,

yeah, it definitely felt like the only person that was getting good breaks after the reset was JJ Spawn.

Yeah, yeah, it did feel like the course got harder with the water just because it just like there was that moment where everyone was kind of going along and there was, you know, pars and a couple bogeys.

And then

the rain comes, and it was almost like the whole leaderboard at the same time just like fell off a cliff.

And like everyone, it was the moment where I think Adam Scott was fist pumping a bogey and you're like, holy shit, this is different.

He was genuinely so pumped for a bogey and you're like, man, this is becoming just absolute carnage on the golf course.

Like from my perspective, when Sam Burns made the birdie putt at 10 to I think go to maybe around one or two under par and then immediately follows it up with a double at 11, that's at that point when I'm in the fairway with my guys at 12.

And I'm thinking, holy crap, so many people are in this golf tournament.

There were five guys around that same time tied at one over and in the lead, and really players that haven't been a part of the storyline yet, like Carlos Ortiz, Tyrrell Hatton, and all of a sudden, like Robert McIntyre is apparently playing golf.

And so, you're trying to figure out: okay, you don't want to miss, you know, these guys way up there that could potentially post and win this golf tournament because every single dude was leaking oil.

And so, JJ spawned on the 12th hole.

I was obviously with this group.

He hits the fairway on that hole, even gets casual water drop, drops.

So, you would think he would have like a less wet golf ball to be able to control it.

And he hits like this biggest push, really one of the worst swings

he made all week, but I think it was mainly the moisture on the golf ball and the golf club that pushed this golf ball way to the right.

And from my vantage point, my eye, you know, looking 200 yards away, it looked like it went into literally a wall of fescue.

I was like, all right, JJ Spawn's done.

Like he's got no chance to win this golf tournament.

So my mind goes to Victor Hoblin, who at the time I thought was playing much, much better than JJ.

And that's kind of how we were producing it anyways, is that we felt that Victor was probably going to be the guy to come out of that group if it was going to be somebody because JJ was playing so poorly.

And I get up to the golf ball of JJ Spahn, and there's fescue surrounding this big mound.

And somehow JJ Spahn's ball was on the top of this mound with hardly any grass around it and a decent lie.

And I'm thinking, this was finally the break that he needed.

He had gotten so many bad breaks through the first 11 holes, gets a good break at 12, and honestly, didn't hit that good of a wedge shot.

I thought he really could have hit something inside of 10 feet.

Hits it to like 40 feet short and

makes the putt.

And walking off that green, he kind of looks over at me and gives me a smile.

And I was like, okay, JJ spawns back.

He's officially back.

And from you know, from there, pretty much,

he was

he was he striked it at 13.

14, I think,

he gets a really good break in the right rough.

That could have been a, you know, Adam Scott gets, you know, absolutely screwed over in that bunker in the group behind him, but he gets a lucky lie in the rough to where he can actually play something up to the green where he could have had to have pitch it back in the fairway, or the, you know, the rough could have been so bad that, you know, he would have potentially hit it anywhere.

But he got a good enough lie there, and then he makes another long put at 14.

And I'm like, oh my God, J.J.

Spong's going to win the golf tournament.

So just insanity.

It was.

It was crazy.

And I think the guy that had the hardest time, at least mentally, was probably Hatton.

I thought Hatton was going to, he might come back in the middle of the night and try to burn the entire golf course down.

He was so angry, which I like watching that type of golf.

I know it sucks for the golfers, but for all of us out there that are not very good, it's nice to see the best of the world feel the exact same things that we feel on a day-to-day basis when you just want to destroy your clubs, burn the course down, say, fuck this, quit golf entirely.

And when Hatton, was he caught up in the rough and the rough just got so wet that it was impossible to swing through?

Is that what it was?

Honestly, I have no idea because Hatton was out in front of me.

I was really keeping tabs with the group behind me.

But the one quote I'll give you with Tyrrell Hatton that he said this week,

he said, for the most part, I'm always kind of a bit of a,

you know, struggles with his temper.

He's a very dramatic out on the golf course and

anger issues, if you will.

He said, said for once every year everybody shows up at the US Open and everybody gets to feel and experience what I feel every single week yeah

that was that was kind of the amazing quote from GROL HATTEN yeah the US Open like I don't want this every week I don't want to watch golfers you know celebrate bogies every week but it's fun that once a year we talk about it rooting for the course there's one time a year where the course is as difficult as possible and the guys have to just like struggle and it does feel like the mental game comes into play a lot more in these type of uh tournaments where you just know like because these guys are just and you tell me if i'm wrong these guys play all the time where they're conditioned to be like all right we're in the fairway we're you know we're greens in regulation we're hitting for birdies and then it all flips where it's like all right a bogey is a good score and to have to mentally like get over that hurdle has to be a totally different challenge for them to deal with yeah i mean you guys are always doing you you know, who's back of the week.

Golf courses are back.

Yeah.

Golf courses are back.

You know,

for the game, all it was being talked about, you know, it was like, roll back the equipment, make the game harder for the pros.

And this week, Oakmont won.

And it had all the different variables you can throw in there.

You had rain, you had the crazy fast conditions, you had the firm conditions really that showed up on Friday.

You had wind throughout.

And then really a golf course that just showed out.

Was it maybe too hard?

Maybe, but I I thought it was really fun for a U.S.

Open.

And I thought the guys at the top of the leaderboard were heading into today, proving that they were the players that were playing the best.

And guess what?

All four of those guys who we thought were going to be the ones that were going to be, you know, in that main group of guys who had a chance to win.

Well, none of them answered to the test today for the most part.

And JJ Spawn was the only one to kind of reset and actually pull off some shots on the stretch.

What is it that people like, I've seen that argument online being like it's actually too hard i saw someone tweet that it was essentially like this is like mickey mouse because it's all luck when it's this hard how is that possible like it's it again it's not every week it's once a year you're gonna play the hardest golf course and the us opens going to put to the the toughest test how can you possibly say oh it's what does that mean that a golf course is too hard Well, you would like for every, you know, mishit of a T-shot to be penalized similar.

So like last year, for example, at Pinehurst, you you know, they had hardly any rough.

It was all this sandy area with fescue that was kind of plotted throughout the sandy area to where you could, you know, find a good lie.

We saw Bryson DeCambo catch some breaks last year in that scenario.

And

at Oakmont, I would say the big difference is when you hit, when you missed the fairway, for the most part, you were being punished.

And very rarely did you come away with a decent lie to where you could get it to the green.

So throughout the whole week, players knew that when they got it

position, that they were going to be fighting to have a chance to make a par.

So, that's when it means like having luck come into this.

Yeah.

You know, I felt like JJ Spawn had some lucky-ish moments over the last like six or seven holes to give him a, you know, an opportunity to not have to chip out back into the fairway to where he could actually advance something up to the green.

Where I think he had, you know, two of those situations that happened.

It happened at 12, it happened at 14, and then 15, he actually got a really good lie in the left rough to where I thought he could have pushed it up further, and he decided to lay it up and laid it up in the rough.

I was like, What are we doing here?

Like, this is like it's it's yours right now, JJ.

You're leading the golf term, he lays it up in the rough, and then he gets another decent lie to where he was 83 yards away from the hole and 15 in the right rough.

And walking up, I couldn't even find the golf bomb, trying to locate it.

And then he somehow has this like little down grain patch that is in this like five inch rough but I look at it I'm like he can get this on the green where I thought he was gonna have to leave it short so he has that and of course he makes mixed bogey there he he parsed 16 and then 17

you wouldn't believe how good this driver was that he hit like standing at the at near the t-box this thing takes off and I'm thinking I think he may have just made a hole in one.

That's how good it looked from my vantage point.

Yeah, I mean, he played great, great on the back nine.

And then one of the funniest parts was John Rahm finishes his round I feel like it was seven hours before the end of the tournament.

Yeah, and he's he comes in at a plus four right for the tournament and then they're like hey you need to stick around because you might you might win this thing and then Scotty ends up was he plus three or plus four I forget but then Scotty he has to stick around the clubhouse too Thankfully for not quite as long because then McIntyre was in there at a plus one and when he applauded when JJ hit that final putt I thought he was actually clapping because he was pumped that he didn't have to play any more golf.

I thought he was like, thank God, I don't have to go back out there on this fucking course and get my teeth kicked in again.

But the final putt that he had, the longest putt of the tournament, longest made putt of the tournament, an incredible putt.

How great was that putt?

If you were to rank it in terms of clutch moments in major history, where does that fall?

On the 18th green?

Yeah.

I mean, what comes to mind, like one of the most clutch putts that I can remember is the one that Tiger Woods made on the 18th 18-3 at Torrey Pines

to eventually force that playoff on Monday.

I mean, that's the one that seared into my brain.

This was a putt that, by the way, I was just listening to JJ talk right before I came in here.

I don't think JJ knew exactly where he stood in the golf tournament, which blows my mind.

Really?

Yes.

I need to like clarify this.

Obviously, I wish I could have done a little bit more research before, but I caught the tail half of his comments of saying, like, I didn't know exactly how big of a lead that that I had, and whether I needed to two-putt or three-putt.

And I'm just thinking, how does he not know the situation right now?

But

let's just throw in another bit of luck in this.

The fact that Victor Hovlin

hits it right behind his golf ball on a putt that I would say, from a difficulty standpoint, for just getting it down in two, I would have said that he probably had a

55% chance of two-putting.

That's how difficult the putt was.

When you throw in that it was legit raining, it was not very bright out.

I would say it was, you know, seven out of ten from a darkness standpoint.

And

no idea of how much this rain is affecting the ground.

But then JJ said that he it appeared to him that Victor hit the putt harder than he thought.

And so

with that, maybe that just gave him the extra bit of confidence to give it a little bit more of a hit because naturally in that situation, it would be natural for the player to come up short there.

And if he came up short four feet, that putt would have been so difficult because it was going to be a downhill left to rider.

You wanted to be past that hole if you're going to have something coming back.

But I was standing 20 feet away from it, guys.

It was going maybe three and a half feet by, which I think he would have made the comeback.

The other big story from this week, Rory.

What's up with Rory?

He's mad.

He's pissed off.

He's mad at the journalists.

I do actually kind of, I'm not a big Rory fan, but I do kind of understand when he was like,

someone asked kind of a leading question, like, you've been carrying the water for the tour for the last three or four years, and do you feel like you can kind of do whatever you want?

And he was just like, yeah, like, I have that right now.

But what's up with him?

What is what's the story?

Have you heard anything?

Well, all I can just kind of report on is that he's clearly irked with the media.

The media has obviously pissed him off a little bit.

I think the big one was probably how the driver thing leaked out from the PGA championship.

That was one of the big things that I know he was probably disappointed with was that his driver was the one that got leaked, where there was plenty of other players that failed the driver test, like Scotty Scheffler.

And then you started to see these articles and these stories and these Twitter,

you know, these tweets just basically saying that was he using a banned driver at Augusta.

And of course, like that is totally unfair to Rory McRoy to run any article about that.

These are things that probably shouldn't have come out, but somehow got leaked.

And I think that's one of the reasons that he's he's been upset and i think the other too is that he he climbed the mountain of you know winning at augusta uh winning the grand slam and i think he's just kind of been trying to figure out exactly what his new goals are and i don't think he's all quite there as far as just mentally physically ready just to take on the challenge of of uh major championship golf it doesn't mean his talent has has gone away it's just kind of the desire isn't quite there right now and just like a long day of the weekend of keeping your kids big cat

you know, you come Monday morning and you're just trying to catch a breath.

And I think when he gets off the golf course, he just doesn't want to talk to the media right now.

We definitely said that his masters was had an asterisk.

Yeah, but that's on this show.

None of Scotty's wins.

Yeah, yeah, but his, yeah, we can do the math on that.

Yeah, yeah, we were definitely leading the charge on that.

Because he probably goes out to the driving range and he probably hits it a few times with a hammer on the face of the driver.

He's like, okay, I got that good trampoline spring now.

What if Rory was just like, I'm mad at PMT?

Yeah.

He's mad at the journalists.

I get that.

I feel like he's going to get locked in for the open, though, right?

It's Port Rush, man.

That's like his next big milestone.

I think it'll be easy for him to kind of turn his brain on for that.

But I don't think Beth Page is going to be too kind to not only the Europeans, but Rory in general.

I think it's going to be...

No, that week's going to be absolutely just chaos.

Yeah, no, I kind of feel I feel in advance for Rory for what he's going to have to deal with from a bunch of drunk, angry Long Islanders out there screaming his name.

It's going to be great.

It's going to be great.

I'm excited for it.

Hey, can I just say

go ahead.

No, no, you go ahead.

All I was going to say is that JJ Spawn just played his way onto the Ryder Cup team.

Yeah, so I actually had a question about JJ Spawn because it's not, I mean, he obviously has been on tour for a while, but he hadn't won a major.

Was this on your radar as a guy who was next up that could win one?

Because Victor Hovlin definitely is in that category.

And then JJ Spawn kind kind of stole his moment there but was he what's his story what's his is he like someone who we can expect to go win a few of these if you would ask me heading into the week uh who was the next guy to win a major championship and when i eventually would have gotten to jj spawn it would have took me a while and that's mainly just because i just need to continue to see more from him like continue to put himself in positions where he has a chance you wanted to see if the players championship was just an anomaly was that a week where he just played played really well?

Because he should have won Sony Open earlier this year in Hawaii.

Cognizant also had a top five.

So he had a great start to the season.

So you're just wondering, is this a season in which you know he's like peaking?

Like, where's the peak in this?

How good can JJ Spawn be?

And I don't think anybody knew.

I don't know if JJ Spawn even knew, but it's funny that I was at dinner on Wednesday night and I was there with the player and I asked him a question.

I said, hey, who do you think the most underrated player right now on the PJ tour is?

And he thought about it a second.

He said, I'm not sure if this is considered an underrated player because he's playing so well, but JJ Spawn.

And

I thought about it and I was like, you know what?

You're exactly right because he is a guy that just is so rock solid, has no weaknesses.

And this week, he got a hot putter.

And that's been his like Achilles heel was his short game, his putting.

And he was, I think he probably wed in strokes game putting on the week, which if you would have told me that heading into the week, that JJ Spawn was going to be the best putter, I would have said, well, J.J.

Spawn won the U.S.

Open.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I'm looking at a few outbursts.

We had a lot of outbursts this week.

One from Rory smashed one of the T-boxes.

I don't know if I consider him a bad boy, though.

He's more like sad boy of golf.

Then we had an outburst, obviously, from Hatton.

We know that he's got the temper.

And then we had an outburst from Wyndham Clark, apparently, in the locker room.

Did he destroy two lockers in the locker room?

allegedly what the picture looked like uh i haven't seen the video maybe netflix was in there we can see it later uh

whenever the next uh whatever it's called the full swing comes out um and we'll see that footage but yeah uh

i guess whether it's windham or rory you got to make sure or hatton you just got to keep your you know eyes peeled when they hit a golf shot you just got to you know stay aware honestly Yeah, I didn't know that about Wyndham Clark.

Does he have a reputation as being a hothead?

I mean, I think we all are.

If you play this game long enough, this game will just drive you crazy.

I've had plenty of moments in my career.

I walked off a golf course in Memphis with my shirt literally ripped in half.

So I can speak on this knowing that I myself was somebody who really struggled with

failures.

So I get it.

It's the human element, but there is definitely a line as a professional that I think us,

a standard really that we're all held to.

And I think Wyndham knows he's falling short on it.

Rory, Rory, of course, knows that he needs to probably act a little better, too.

And I, for one, don't ever mind throwing clubs, as long as the kids aren't around.

You know,

if it's just the boys out there and I hit a terrible shot, I don't mind doing a little club toss.

I don't think anybody minds it, but these guys are held to a pretty high standard.

And

the one, I guess, that T-Mobile one at the PJ Championship comes to mind where the driver comes flying through.

I think I talked to you about you guys about it the last time I came on.

So,

yeah, it's two times in a row.

We've been having the scoop on Rory and Wyndham with some emotion.

Do you think that the USGA, are they pumped about how this weekend went?

Like, every golfer's pissed at them.

They're all upset.

You've got all these outbursts.

The guys, you know, acting like they're 20 handicappers out there.

Is the USGA excited about how this went down?

Are they like, job well done?

I think that ending was awesome because

U.S.

Opens, PFT, like, for the most part, there's no crowd pops.

There's no roars.

You know, it's not like the masters on the back nine where you just have those crazy moments, the big roars, where's everywhere coming from?

Where is it on the course?

And you, on your, you on your couch know it's like, all right, I'm ready.

At the US Open, it's like 10-footer for par, 10-footer for par.

And it's like nobody fist pumping and nobody really knows where they stand in this.

But then at the end, there, we get those big moments.

We get that big moment at 18.

The driver from JJ Spine at 17.

So we had a mix of just chaotic bad golf followed by like just insanely good golf at the end so from usga's perspective they have to be elated especially that it finished in prime time on sunday night with crazy conditions on an iconic anchor site venue for the usga uh i would probably say it was a home run um

and that maybe the players will have different perspectives of that of the conditions they played in but us as a broadcaster and nbc uh i i i'm happy that i get to fly out tomorrow morning yeah

it's funny that you mentioned mentioned the roar because at one point, you guys flashed back to the 2008 U.S.

Open coverage, and I had it on in a different room.

I didn't know when it was going to come back on, when the live play was going to happen, but I was in a different room, and I heard a roar.

I heard the crowd like going nuts, and I was like, oh, I don't have to worry.

That's not this tournament.

Nobody's making like huge putts in this tournament.

I know that's still the flashback from 2008.

Well, PFT, I mean, how many guys were just taking their annual Sunday snooze and they wake up and they're like, holy shit, Tiger Woods is in this room now.

The amount of people that probably got confused waking up from a Sunday nap,

there probably was more than one.

Yeah.

I got an insanely stupid question.

So, Oakmont, you say you got to hit the Fairways.

And we saw like Bryson.

You know, it was actually funny because I think there was that clip of Johnny Miller and Jack Nicholas laughing about Bryson trying to play Bryson ball, not making the cut, where it's like, hey, you got to hit the Fairways.

Is it

like, if could you hit the fairways if you take a little off your distance?

Could, like, because these guys are so good, was there anyone trying that where it's like, hey, I don't need to hit it 315.

I don't need to hit it 330.

I'm just going to try to hit it 270, but always hit the fairway.

Is that possible at Oakmont, or am I completely making it seem simpler than it is?

Well, there was just certain T-shots you just had to hit the fairway on.

Like, the first hole was such a difficult hole.

Like, one comes to mind.

You had the ninth hole and the 15th hole those three holes i could argue with you and say that yes like taking something off of anything to make sure you hit the fairway was so important because when you missed the fairway you pretty much were going to make a five there was unless you got up and down from 110 yards right so on those holes yes it would have been smart to find something that got in play uh but throughout the rest of the golf course you know it was you know it played firm-ish thursday friday it started to firm up and a guy like Bryson DeChambo and Roy McRoy, these guys, that's the strength of a game.

You know, like it, when they hit the fairways with their drivers, it's such a big advantage to them that they have shorter clubs into the green.

So it'd be silly for them not to take advantage of their link on certain holes.

And when you go look back at all the other U.S.

Opens at Oakmont, Dustin Johnson, he led in driving distance that week.

He also hit a lot of his fairways.

And then same with Angel Cabrera, like led in driving distance Hit a bunch of his fairways and both of those guys were like leading in the greens and regulation stat Which back in 07 with a Cabrera it was very firm and if we would have had a really firm US open this year

No telling what the guys would have shot I mean it was it would have been borderline impossible because of how the severity of these slopes it's like Augusta National with how sloped it is and I think the greens would have been faster.

So the fact that we got moisture on this place on the weekend and it's still, I guess, JJ shot under par like by a miracle, but we were looking at a potential over par

winner even with rain on the weekend.

Yeah, we're right so that was a dumb question.

Well, yeah, like it is, are you asking, like, if what if you hit a five-iron off the T every time?

I don't know.

Like, if you're just like, I can guarantee that I hit it in the fairway, it's not going to, I'm going to do it.

That doesn't help you because, like, they tuck these pins.

You want to have shorter clubs into these holes to be able to hold the greens.

And remember, like, Oakmont, it's so important to have uphill putts.

And if you're going to be hitting these long irons into the greens uh especially with anything that's other than a back pin like you're going to be putting downhill just about every hold which means you're going to be uh having six footers per par all day if and that is then that's just saying if you're able to hit the greens from far away yeah yeah i don't know so yeah for a second there i thought i figured out okmon but yeah just hit it like but maybe 220 just right down the middle every time you'll be good i i was getting a sense that you were like just figured out golf in general and that you were just thinking about turning pro you're like yeah i was for For a hot second, I was like, hold on a second.

You just hit every fairway?

I don't know if it was you or somebody else on the broadcast that said it's, it's not even that much better to have an uphill putt because guys are so afraid of putting it past the hole and then leaving themselves a downhill putt that the course is just in your head.

The greens are in your head that whole time.

Yeah, it's the fear really of like when you have the uphill putt,

it's in your mind, you're thinking, yes, this is finally an opportunity.

I can be aggressive with one.

And then all you're thinking about when you're over it, probably from outside 15 feet, is, oh no, I cannot have the four-footer coming back.

So you constantly saw guys all week basically having the three-footer up the hill because they didn't want the comebacker.

Yeah, it's almost like you want to leave yourself a downhill putt for Birdie, and then you pretty much guarantee yourself a par.

Yeah, I mean, just think about JJ Spawn.

Like the putts that he made at 12 and 14, downhill putts.

Those were putts that he just needed to get started online.

It wasn't, he was, of course, focused on like getting it up around the hole, but he maybe hit that putt on 12.

That was about a 40-foot putt.

If you would have just done it, like if you're sitting in your office right there, he would have hit it like a three-footer.

Like, that's how hard he hit the putt for a 40-foot putt.

That's how downhill that putt is at 12.

And then 14, similar from about 20 feet or so, he probably hit that about like a four to five footer.

I mean, that's and really,

I think in pressure moments, it's easier to hit downhill putts because you're focused more on just speed and line versus uphill putts, thinking about having to hit something.

I've heard that said about many, or many great players and many great analysts have always said that.

And the putt I made in my PGA tour, when it was a downhill putt.

And I tend to agree that in big moments, I always seem to make the ones that were the downhill ones.

Yeah.

All right, Smiley, I got one last question for you.

It's a Roback question.

Thank you for doing this.

Awesome.

By the way, I think you have the video that's going viral of JJ Spawn's putt.

Was that your video that you took?

I have no idea.

I haven't really

sweared to.

Because you were standing there.

You were standing there.

Hank Shaky is fair.

I was standing there.

I got the tail end of it because after he made it, I knew Dan Hicks was going to have the call throughout the rest of that.

So I wasn't going to come in again.

So the only reason I would have come in again is if he would have had like a four or five footer.

So after he made it, I got my phone out and took a video.

That's awesome.

It's super cool to have later.

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So you are going to the Open Championship.

You guys are covering that, NBC Sports.

Tell us who's going to win.

Just give us the winner right now.

All right.

Heading into the year, my prediction was Teo Hatton.

I just had a feeling that Tyrell Hatton was going to win a major this year.

That's my prediction now, but we'll see.

I mean, it would be cool to see Shane Lowry have a chance to win again at Port Rush and Rory McRoy, of course, too.

But I'm going to go with the crazy man in Tyrrell Hatton.

I'm going to ride that boat.

He's a lynxy type of player, hits it straight, and that's my pick for now.

Okay.

And then I just wanted you to rank this course in terms of the all-time hardest courses for U.S.

Open golf.

Is this number one or are we going to go?

Brooks, he won Shinnecock.

He won at one over, right, in 2018 at Shinnecock.

Compare this to Shinnecock.

I've never been to Shinnecock, actually.

We have the U.S.

Open there next year, so I wish I could talk more about it.

But I just remember the Zach Johnson quote after his round saying that the USGA had lost the course and how difficult it was there.

Shinney's had their moments of being a very difficult place.

Wingfoot comes to mind.

That was an over-par finish with Phil Mickelson and Jeff Okilvy eventually winning where Phil Mickelson made double bogey at 18.

But Oakmont's got to be up there.

It's got to be,

if it's not one, it's in the top two or three.

So

it's always fun knowing when you get to Oakmont, it's going to be a special one.

I shot a 72 at Shinnecock, so it's not that hard.

I heard about that, by the way.

Good point.

Yeah, yeah.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

Most of the playing there was with my pencil on scorecard.

But yes, I appreciate that.

Pretty incredible round by me.

Also, can you define for us what is a US open par?

Okay, so a U.S.

open par.

That is a good question.

So typically it's a,

I would, I would have to categorize it as a putt that you make from outside of eight feet and something went wrong before you got to the green.

So whether it was a poor drive or a poor second shot and then a nice recovery shot and you make some sort of putt outside of, I would say, eight feet, which is kind of in that 50-50 range, that would be considered a U.S.

open par to keep the momentum going.

I like that.

I like that.

It sounds because it sounds a lot like every par I've ever had in my entire life.

Like something goes really, really bad, and then somehow you luck into a par.

U.S.

Open.

Me and any problem.

I put for par way too much now.

Wait, hey, last, last question.

What, um, and by the way, everyone, go listen to Smiley Show because he's going to talk about everything and everything he saw.

Um,

why didn't you guys say lightning?

Why did you guys keep saying there's electricity in the

sky, or there's no electricity in the sky?

What was the problem with lightning?

I don't know.

Maybe just foreshadowing the electricity at 18.

I don't know.

I'm just maybe going to throw that out there.

It was crazy.

Just no one would say lightning.

Yeah, I don't know.

I think that's just kind of one of those buzzwords that was floating around.

And I was kind of rolling with it, too, to where lightning seemed like a cuss word to say.

Yeah, it was crazy.

You're like jinxing it.

If you say lightning, it feels like you're summoning it.

But then you said electricity, it stayed away.

No electricity.

it did.

And my, yes, I can tell you the electricity stayed away, but uh, the rain did not.

And my shoes are about to be thrown out here in the next hour.

You should frame them, maybe sell them.

Like, these are the shoes that saw JJ Spawn.

I'm never going to forget this one, boys.

This was like an all-timer.

I can't imagine, um, you know, just the feelings of winning that for JJ Spawn and just that memory for me, just the crowd pop, the people in the stands jumping up, yelling.

It was an all-timer.

All-timer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

Thank you so much, Smiley.

You're the best, man.

Safe travels back home.

All right, boys.

Bo Digas, we got the College World Series win now.

Oh, yeah.

Congratulations.

That was a huge win last night.

Also, congrats on

Coach O just bodying that Alabama fan and making it stutter on the street.

That was good.

We'll see him back, too.

He's a humble pie for the Tide fans.

They need it every now and then.

I love how he got Buck with him, and then he flipped over into Coach Moe.

I'm going to be nice to you, Moe.

And then he tried to walk away and he's like, nah, I got to go back and let him have a peace of my mind.

Yeah.

That's the defensive line coach coming out of him.

It's like, hey, you're going to make a mistake here on the line.

I'm going to chew you new and then I'm going to teach you a lesson along the way.

I love it.

I love it.

All right.

Thanks so much, Smiley.

Bye, boys.

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Okay, let's wrap up the show.

I found it.

Should we get Max angry real quick?

Let's piss Max off.

Okay, this is from Adam Best, Arrowhead Adam.

This is just Adam C.

Best?

No, Adam Best.

Okay, you remember that guy?

Yes, I do remember that guy.

Wait, was he the

he got upset when Chaps did the blog about wanting to fuck a pumpkin?

Oh, that's right.

That's right.

I couldn't remember if he was the guy or the other guy who.

Men who work in sports need to speak out against Barstool.

They are a disgusting outlet.

Nobody should take seriously, let alone ESPN.

And that was when he wanted to fuck a pumpkin?

Yeah.

Who's the guy who had the

website that hated Barstool?

And then

he was like, All right,

like July, time for a two-month break.

Oh, yeah,

Jamie.

Yes,

yes, he's like, fuck these guys.

I can't believe they're successful.

No,

the cauldron.

Yeah, and then July came.

He's like, all right, that's it for us for the next two months.

It's like, wait, what?

Took a two-month hiatus beyond the internet.

Jamie O'Green.

Well, beyond reproach.

Yes.

Beyond reproach.

Okay.

Adam best, arrowhead Adam.

How many QBs would have won the Super Bowl with that loaded Eagles roster?

All of them.

17 possibilities other than Hurts.

Sounds right.

He put them in categories for us.

Okay.

Pretty easily: Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow.

Very likely, Daniels, Stafford, Herbert, Stroud, Dak,

Jordan Love, Geno Smith, Brock Purdy, Decent Shot, Goff, Baker, Kyler, Trevor Lawrence, Tua.

Maximum.

I mean, his tiers don't even make sense.

Decent shots.

The people in the third tier are better than the people in the second tier.

Who?

He had

Goff, Baker over Geno Smith and Brock Burdy.

Yeah.

Wait, would this

team?

Brock Burdy had that roster the year before.

That's a good point.

That's a really good point.

Would this team have to play against the Eagles?

No, they would play on the Eagles.

Yeah, yeah.

So they wouldn't have to play against the Eagles with Jalen Hurts on the Eagles.

He's just saying that Jalen Hurts stinks and anyone could play.

I love that everyone still thinks Jalen Hurts sucks because it's just like if everyone thought he was good, he just still will have a chip on his shoulder, even though he won Super Bowl MVP.

This is just an all-time I'm not owned tweet to have June 13th,

four months after the Super Bowl.

Being like, this is absolute bullshit.

It's also another way of saying, you know who's really fucking good is the Philadelphia eagles yeah right yeah i also i think that someone was like hey didn't you have the didn't you say the chiefs were going to beat them because they had a better roster and he had some like he's like well our our offensive line got hurt and i had them as an a plus roster us as an a minus roster it's like well should have been closer then yeah yeah

but yeah you gotta you gotta love this though max i yeah i do i i mean

more bulletin board material, which is hard to do for a Super Bowl winning team.

Also, the best part about playing on the Eagles is you wouldn't have to play against the Eagles defense.

Right.

Yeah, what did he say?

He said, my prediction, Super Bowl goes down to the wire.

Chiefs win 30-27.

Clutch Mahomes driving nils.

Bucker kick.

The Eagles play their guts out, but it becomes a coaching passing battle late and they come up short.

Philly has the talent to win just in case he has a rare clutch trait.

Yeah, it's just fanfic.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So yeah,

that didn't even raise you.

That made you happy.

Right, Max?

Yeah, it's fine with me.

I don't give a shit about that.

I can't wait for you.

What about even Geno Smith?

Does that name do anything for you?

The Geno's a little crazy.

But

I don't understand why Geno's in tier two when they're over Goff and Baker.

It's not tier two.

It's the very likely tier.

Very likely.

Tua was also in the decent shot tier.

Could you imagine Tua running the tush push?

And just instant concussion.

That's the part of this fanfic that's so funny.

It's like, you're just completely ignoring the fact that the tush push is a big part of the Eagles' offense.

You're like, yeah, Tua can run that.

Yeah, Kyler.

Yeah, Kyler's got that.

No problem.

Yeah.

Gino Smith,

who

absolutely cannot run that.

Kyler would run it.

He would turn into an accordion.

Brock Purdy, if Kyler tried to run the Tush Push.

Yeah.

Brock Purdy would be hilarious.

Okay.

Whatever.

All right, I'm happy that you're doing well.

Zach, do you go outside this weekend?

In the house for most of the weekend.

We got got to get you outside.

We pulled the maps up earlier.

I was getting filled in on some hot spots.

I should walk through during the weekend.

Okay, because it was nice out this weekend.

Are you staying away from your windows?

I'm getting way more comfortable by the windows.

So much more comfortable.

There was a huge street music festival outside of Zach's apartment, and he had no idea that that wasn't.

Zach, it was so nice out on Saturday and Sunday.

So nice.

I now know which one was perfect weather for the festivals.

Well, it's not going to be

a summer.

Oh, never mind.

All right, I missed it.

That's no good.

But you should still walk that way.

Yeah, OKGo is playing about 100 yards from your house on Saturday.

That's heartbreaking.

Did anyone hit Old Town Our Fair?

One dog.

I know they moved it up.

What?

Last summer was like in the middle of the summer.

It was this weekend.

I know.

Yeah.

I didn't realize it till today.

Oh, shit.

All right.

Numbers.

Three.

Wow.

99.

Oh, because Punk's dirty dog.

Dirty dog.

wow.

You're going to try to win with 99?

76.

That would be an Asterix win.

100% an Asterix win.

I can't.

I believe you're trying to do an Asterix win.

That's the lamest thing ever.

What would that mean for Memes' legacy?

It would take his legacy.

It's a win, man.

Pug is the most beloved guy on this show in terms of our fans loving Pug.

You would.

The fans would revolt.

It would be the dirtiest win ever.

It'd be like me winning a 50-50 to a game I didn't go to.

No memes protest tomorrow.

Doug's literally home for his wedding right now.

Unreal.

No memes.

All right, wait.

What was your number?

Three.

I took three.

What was your number?

77.

I'll take six.

I'll go 15.

I want 15, though.

55.

21.

I'll go.

99.

Haddies.

I got 99.

I'll go 13.

Chaos.

Chaos ensues.

I'll go 13.

Six, give me.

Nine.

Oh.

I mean, that's clearly a nine, dude.

Oh.

That would have been awesome.

Are you going to do...

Let's do one more official.

Numbers.

Three.

Are you going to do it again?

I want to.

Do it.

Stay on business.

18.

Oh, what a pussy.

99.

Yeah.

Now I'm back to root for 99.

96.

77.

96.

16.

21.

Who's got three?

52.

52.

Wow, memes.

You want you couldn't hold it for one extra one

next time.

You had the next time, but it didn't hit.

You got to save it.

Love you guys.

It's like power-up.

tennis tennis tennis ten.