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On today's part in my take, we have our good friend Ryan Whitney on the show talking some Stanley Cup final.

What a two games there.

Ben Friday night was incredible.

We're also going to talk a little U.S.

Open with him.

He played Oakmont, no big deal.

We have the Thunder Pacers.

Game two, the Thunder are back.

They are tying up the series.

We have Who's Back the Week?

We saw some incredible tennis.

And

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Today is Monday, June 9th, and the Oklahoma City Thunder are back, PFT, an absolute whomping in game two, which we kind of expected.

So back.

The Hungrier team is going to probably show up for game two after the Pacers rip their heart out game one.

this feels uh

i don't want to say the pacers are in trouble but for whatever yeah i mean for for whatever it's been 94 minutes of this series have been firmly in the thunders side and tonight uh they they got their game listen the pacers have they they won one on the road pacers are are winning this series 1-1 right now yeah that's a fact but i i will say i do think they're probably in trouble but the pacers also have that ability to just make everybody look like idiots all the time.

So they might go ahead and do that.

I don't think we mentioned this on Friday's show because we did it right in the aftermath of the game and the buzzer beater.

We did talk about how the Pacers only led for 0.3 seconds of that game.

I think that's the lowest amount of time that any winning team has ever led in the history of the playoffs.

Yes.

So it would not surprise me if they figured out a way to do the rabbit out of the hat thing again.

But tonight it was just dominance for Loma City.

And it felt like there were moments where it felt like the Pacers kept on fighting back the difference I feel like tonight was you had not only Chet Holmgren and J-Dub chip in but it was Alex Caruso and Aaron Wiggins that was the big thing Aaron Wiggins felt like he hit a big three every time the Pacers were kind of creeping back and it's crazy to say because when you watch the Indiana Pacers play basketball when I say creeping back I mean like cutting it to 13.

When they cut it to 13 I'd sit up in my seat and be like, uh-oh, here they come.

Even though that's still a big lead to come overcome.

If the Pacers cut it to 13 in like the third quarter, I've just reached a point where I accept that they'll probably end up winning that game.

Yeah.

But yeah, the Thunder, I don't want to even say role players because Chet Holmgrens, I wouldn't call him like a role player necessarily.

Yeah, Aaron Wiggins and Crusoe come off the bench, but yeah.

But yeah,

Caruso is, he's an elevated role player.

Yeah, he's like a featured cameo.

It's been my point with the Thunder all-playoffs.

Like, they're an incredible team.

There are times when SGA is expected to do everything, and you need those second and third guys to step up, and they they did tonight, and then the bench stepped up as well, and SGA still had his 34.

And it was like

Tyrese Halliburton, what do you have?

I think he had 12 points in the fourth quarter, but he had five going into the fourth quarter, and it just felt like one of those a little bit passive Tyrese Halliburton games where that's the next step for him being into that next level where he doesn't have an incredible game followed by a game where you're like, wait, where is this guy?

He's got to be basically running the show here.

So this was, it was SGA, and he got his 3000th uh point on the season if you include the regular season and the postseason there's 12 guys that have ever done that i'll just say wilt chamberlain is one of the 12 he did it five times and then everybody else on the list has done it once except for the last guy michael jordan who did it 10 times 10 times he did it twice as much as wilt and wilt did it five times as much as anybody else that's crazy so who else is on the list uh so we got luca He did it.

Yep.

Before he got fat.

Shout out, by the way,

Don Nelson.

Did you see that press conference?

That was great.

He's like, I'm wearing my Lukas.

Just want to throw out there that that was an abomination of a trade.

We should actually say, because the playoffs are still going on.

Fuck Nico Harrison.

I would like every press conference, regardless of if it's sports, if it's politics, like just start out with your declaration on your stance on the Luka trade.

Yeah, and also, like, what shoes are you wearing?

Yeah.

Just give us that.

All right, who else?

All right, so James Harden did it once.

Kevin Durant did it once.

Kobe did it once.

Shaq did it once.

Bob McAdoo did it once.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar did it once.

Rick Berry did it once.

Elgin Baylor did it once.

Michael Jordan did it 10 times.

Crazy.

And Shea obviously just did it once.

But Michael Jordan did that shit 10 times.

10 times.

And so

Shay's now in the club.

This does.

Max, you want to earmuff it?

Although, I don't even know how old you were.

You were like five years old.

Oh, we're talking about AI?

Yeah.

Yeah, I was

getting the exact feeling today.

That's exactly

watching this game.

I was like, oh, this is.

And I think that the Pacers are better than those Sixers.

Those Sixers were literally just Alan Iverson.

But like, win the game one in a heroic fashion.

And then the better team's like, hey, we're here to win the championship.

Yeah.

I hope I'm wrong.

I hope it's a long series.

Hank, you think it's over?

Yeah.

Five games.

You're already calling it over.

I think the Pacers can win one at home.

I'm not going to sleep on the Pacers at home.

I'm not going to do it.

I think it's Thunder and Six.

I'm not going to do it.

I'm going to say the Pacers are going to to win one at home.

They're going to win one of game three or four.

And if I'm wrong, who cares?

Also, Lou Dort played well tonight.

By the way,

did you see your quote went viral in Pacer Twitter?

Which one?

That the Pacers,

if they played only the first 45 minutes of the game, they'd be a lottery team.

Oh, did it?

There were some people who are getting very mad.

So Pacers fans are

their defense has been up all playoffs, which I understand because national media has not been very kind to them.

They've been an afterthought.

And they're in the NBA Finals.

But I did see, it was very funny.

There was a guy who had Hal Burton Photoshopped as Osam bin Laden who came to your defense and I retweeted him.

He was like, hey, just a heads up.

The PMT guys are joking and they've actually given the Pacers a lot of love to play off.

I actually meant that as a compliment to the Pacers.

Yeah.

Like the fact that they're able to, and also, if you're a Pacers fan, yeah, please like, yeah, roast me on it.

I understand you have to, like, your swords are out big time.

You're fighting everybody in the national media right now.

So

I will accept the memes.

I'll accept the shit talking, but I did mean it as a compliment.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

So the other big story.

Yeah, it was this one.

If NBA games were 45 minutes long, the Pacers would be a lottery team.

Notice the

retweets?

Yeah.

1.9 million views.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's when you know 554 retweets,

34,000 likes.

That's when you know, like, uh-oh.

Yeah, I'd say something's happening.

That's a pretty good ratio.

I'd say like half of those retweets are probably quote tweets being like, This motherfucker doesn't watch basketball.

It's very funny watching

our graphics team does a great job, memes and Shane.

They do a great job putting those out there, but like when you see the numbers tick up and it gets past, like, I'd say 75 retweets, you know, that's officially gone from like the AWLs retweeting it because it was a funny thing.

We broke

everyone's just really fucking pissed at us.

Oh, by the way, credit to Alex Caruso and big, big time in your face to all the haters that thought that these finals weren't going to do numbers.

2.4 billion people watch

game one.

2.4 billion people watch game one.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

I know it's nuts.

A third of the earth?

I saw it online.

A quarter of the earth?

That's like, that's more than the World Cup.

Holy shit.

So I feel good about watching that.

I think the NBA is back.

Yeah, the NBA is back.

Speaking of the NBA being back,

thank you to Adam Silver for trying.

So they put in the fake Larry O'Brien,

the graphic that was just for TV, and they also did the NBA Finals script.

YouTube TV found their way in there as well.

It's not perfect.

Obviously, it looked a little silly, but I'm happy they tried something because it's a great testament to complaining enough on Twitter can solve the world's problems.

Yeah, bullying works.

Yeah.

It usually works, actually.

I didn't like...

The trophy was there, but it wasn't a good trophy.

No, it wasn't like a blurry trophy.

It was like a PlayStation 2 trophy.

It was basically, if that was what it was game one, I would have roasted it.

The fact that they did it because we bullied, and I'm not obviously taking credit for it,

all the internet bullied them.

I'm going to say, like, at least you tried and listened to us.

And I saw Adam Silver actually had a press conference where he said, we're going to look into this and we're going to try to fix this.

It's still insane that it took the internet bullying Adam Silver to realize, hey, your premier championship series should feel a little more special, and maybe this is good for the league when it does feel a little more special.

We're trying to help him.

Right.

We're trying to help Adam Silver do a better job of doing his job.

Grow the game.

Grow the game.

Make it feel important.

Even if the games are blowouts, if the Larry O'Brien trophy is on the court somewhere, then I feel like I owe it to the league to watch it.

And I think it's a good point that when you look back on it, if you're watching a replay, that's my biggest thing.

Then you you have that moment where it's like, oh yeah, this wasn't just a regular season game.

It's basically when you look back on it and they show like the behind the scenes and it's whatever star that's in the NBA Finals coming out on the court like five hours before

taking like a thousand free throws and the NBA Finals logo's there.

And then it's like, oh yeah.

I feel it.

I see it.

I think sometimes leagues get too smart and they forget the fact that as sports fans, the people that watch the product, we're very dumb.

And our brains aren't really that different from dinosaurs.

So if you just show us something that we recognize, it's going to make us feel good in that lizard part of our brain.

And I'll be like, oh, this game is awesome.

I'm getting goosebumps in the moment because it happened while there was a picture of the trophy on the court.

Not only that, it's just like, hey, I want to feel special every now and then.

Yeah.

Make me feel special.

Make me feel like it's my birthday.

It's our moment too, especially

watching this.

Like, it's sad to say, but yeah.

The little things, like, they matter when it comes to feeling special.

And speaking of little things that make us feel better,

we got a bang tonight.

It was a delayed bang.

It was a post-bang.

Also, bullying works.

Bullying works.

Mike Breen did not bang on Halliburton's game-winning shot on Thursday night.

And so, was it his first time?

He should be able to do whatever he wants.

Well,

that was a lot of fun.

I want to bang.

I want to bang.

And the problem was, I think he should have...

immediately just been like, hey, hand up.

Didn't bang.

Should have, should have banged, didn't bang.

Everyone was expecting me to bang.

I wanted to bang.

Yeah.

He like clearly you were ready to bang.

It was DTB.

The problem was his initial reaction was, I saved my bangs for threes.

And it's like, but that's just not true.

You've banged, you've banged plenty of twos.

Yeah, I banged a lot of twos.

Right.

I've banged a lot of twos, banged a lot of threes.

You got to be able to bang both.

And there's not really that much of a difference.

No, banging's banging.

So, Mike Breen, yeah, I wish he had just, I wish he had gone, I wish he'd just been like hand up, should have banged.

Yeah, so I, again, I

got P I got pizza instead and played Xbox, should have banged.

It was a classic example of bullying working again.

Yeah.

Because he heard it from enough people.

So I appreciate the effort that he made, but it was like, you know, you ever get banged and you can tell that they didn't really want to bang, but they kind of wanted you.

They're like, oh, it's, you know, a special occasion for you, so we can bang real quick.

Yeah, afterwards, like, hey, I had a crush on you, too, but you didn't make a move.

Yeah, so, like, I appreciate the offer that he offered to bang, but it's not that like in the moment.

I want him to want to bang as much as I want to bang.

Correct, correct, because otherwise we're just going through the motions.

Do you think bullying works or does bullying work with the NBA?

Because I think it is a very NBA thing to be bullied into everything.

Yeah, Roger Goodell doesn't give a fuck.

No, he won't let you bully him.

But the NBA, like,

they'll, you just say something, you get enough retweets, and they're like, we're looking into it.

I guarantee you that Adam Silver has a burner.

Oh, for sure.

We need to find what Adam Silver's burner is.

For sure.

So, yeah, we did get a bang tonight.

This series feels

Wednesday night.

I hate that we have to wait all the way to Wednesday night.

It was weird not having a game Saturday night.

The schedule's all kind of fucked up.

Hockey, like, needed a hockey game.

I like that.

I'm third on Saturday.

It's insane.

It's broken.

NBA Finals and NHL Finals.

Yeah.

Angel Reese.

Angel Reese, yeah.

Batty.

She made her.

That was the most obvious thing that ever happened for people who missed it.

There was a group of guys who were gambling on Angel Reese to miss her first shot.

And

I think they won five out of six.

She made her first shot of the first game.

And then the next five, she missed her first shot.

And it went viral.

And I was like, there's just no way that she's going to make her first shot.

And she did.

So now you can hop back in.

Now it's going to get hot again.

Yeah, now it's going to get hot again.

Okay.

Should we talk?

Well, we're going to talk extended Stanley Cup final with Ryan Whitney.

Great interview.

Should we talk about the other big sporting event this weekend?

RBC Heritage.

I would like to hear your thoughts on RBC Heritage, but

we had one of the best tennis matches of all time.

Alcaraz versus Sinner for the French Open, five hours and 29 minutes.

And one of the craziest, like, if you didn't watch it, I'm not a big tennis guy, but I was glued to parts of it.

It was also, like, it went on so long that I like went out, came back, went out again, came back, still going.

But the moment that was insane was Sinner was up 5-3 in the fourth set and up 40-love.

Basically, three, so he had three championship points, and Alcaraz came back.

He was the Undertaker gif.

He came back from dead and

won that game, won that set, won the match.

I think I nailed all those.

a game set match championship yep sivouple it was awesome sivouple it was it was and I ugh uh civouple I might I might have to be an Alcaraz guy I mean Alcaraz is awesome he's he's the goat he's fun to watch well he's not the goat yet no he's on track yeah no I know he's on goat track we're on goat watch he's won his uh I think he he won this he's at the same spot as Rafa uh he just won his fifth but he does it on on other surfaces he does it on all the surfaces so Yannick Center uh this is about my tennis knowledge uh in terms of like the the modern game is fucking awesome but he sucks against alkaraz correct well and also dusteroids and dusteroids allegedly but then gets that well you got multiple you got a three month ban and then there was some other stuff that went on behind just a big steroid guy he was 91 and three against everyone else and uh since the start of 2024 he's 0-5 against alkarez you got an alkaraz problem bro oh civil play oh

yeah i knew that i knew that center was going to lose when i saw what he was wearing that's not it that's not a Roland Garrows championship fit he was wearing today.

Overcraft was loving it.

Can I say something?

What do you mean?

He was like sitting behind Skinner.

Oh, he was?

He was getting hyped.

Oh, he's loving those sounds.

Behind who?

Sinner.

Yeah.

Center.

Can I say something that's actually in

pro Rafa?

I know this is the French Open, but in my head, I'm like, this is the Spanish Open.

Because he wanted so many.

Well, that's the craziest.

It's really dumb.

When they had the Olympics and they were lighting the torch for the Olympics in France, they brought Rafa Nadal out to light the torch, and he's not even French.

He just dominates.

It's the most cucking.

I was going to say the most cucked France has ever been by another country, but that would just be historically, wildly incorrect.

It's more like a trend that's in use.

Yeah, once every 40 years.

France just sits in the cuck chair.

Yeah.

But Alcroz is the Spanish, too.

So

it's like, it's the Spanish Open.

I like that.

And I think red, I think Spain.

Yeah.

I don't know why.

Probably the bullfighting.

Maybe the flag.

It's got some red on there.

Yeah, I'm just like, hey, red, Spain, Clay, Red, Rafa, Spain.

So that, the match was so long.

What was it, five and a half hours?

5.29.

Imagine doing anything for 5 and a half.

I tweeted that I can't even fathom exercising for five hours at a time.

And then somebody replied and said, I can't sleep for five hours at a time.

Yeah.

And they were playing tennis.

Without getting, like waking up at least once.

And being exhausted.

Yeah.

You wake up from sleeping that short amount of time.

Yeah.

In France, there was somebody in France that probably took a lunch break, and by the time their lunch break was over,

the tennis match had just ended.

It was five and a half hours.

I went, I watched

the beginning of it, went to the park with my kids, came back, did lunch, took a little bit of a nap, hung out outside, came back in, watched the end.

Yeah, it was crazy.

It was a whole day in this match.

I ordered food to my house, and it got there in the fourth set, right around the time that they had

that

it was center that was up.

I think it was right before they broke the championship points.

I think it was right before the turnaround of the match.

The food got there in the fourth set, and then I just wouldn't leave from upstairs to go pick my food up from the front door until the match was over.

And it was like an hour and a half later.

It was awesome.

It was a fourth set that I was finally able to eat.

It was awesome.

It's one of the things where you're watching it, and even if you're not a tennis fan, you know that this is something special that you're watching.

I'm going to say it right now.

Match of the year.

Yeah.

I'm going to say match of the year.

I know we're only halfway through the year.

We still got

three of the four left.

I believe.

Wimbledon, Australian, U.S.

Open.

But this is match of the year.

And not only that, boys, I think tennis is in good hands.

Yeah.

It's in really good hands.

These guys are going to go at it year after year after year.

We got our new, you know, we were like, hey, what are we going to do as huge tennis guys?

What are we going to do that we lost Federer and Adal and Jokovich is getting old?

Guess what?

We got Alcaraz and Sinner.

Wait, am I right?

No, Australian Open already happened.

Fuck.

Oh, yeah, the weird, like, I know.

Middle of the night.

And I am a big tennis guy.

I was saying that I,

one of the beauties of doing this job, how we do this job, is that

we can joke or we can be stupid and they look the same.

We are the fools.

And I said,

like the fifth game is the best two words in tennis and everyone's like, dude, it's set.

And then a lot of people are like, no, dude, he's obviously joking.

I wasn't joking in that moment.

I definitely thought it was fifth game.

It was a bit?

Not a bit.

And I fucked up.

So then

I had to repeat it so everyone's like, ha ha, he is doing a bit, but I'm an idiot.

At Wimbledon, didn't they used to do a fifth set tiebreaker that would just go on for forever?

Yeah.

I think they changed it because it was too much.

Ugh.

Not for me.

Not for a yellowhead like me.

Ugh.

A fuzz head.

Green?

Green or yellow.

This is a real tennis song.

Also, shout out Coco Goff.

Not a sandwich.

USA.

USA.

We got it.

We did it.

We got it.

I had two dumb thoughts when I was watching the finals at Roland Garrows.

Here's the two thoughts I had about tennis being played on different surfaces, which I like.

I like that Wimbledon's on grass,

the French Open's on clay.

Has anybody ever built a court that's half grass, half clay?

I'm sure some rich dude is really bored has done it.

Yeah.

Has to have.

I would like to watch that match.

And then I think we talked about this a few years ago.

Ice tennis would be cool as shit.

Yeah.

If you're on skates.

Yeah.

Somebody should make that happen.

I would watch ice tennis.

That would be very cool.

Hank, there was a golf tournament?

Yeah, RBC Canada.

Did you watch it?

It's the Canadian Open?

Canadian Open.

Mike Weir?

Not Mike Weir.

Brian Fox.

The 51st major.

Pillow Fight went into extras.

Pillow Fight?

They had five playoff holes.

They were just laying up every time on par.

Why are they holding them?

They started changing the holes.

Yeah.

Just they kept tying.

Oh, and

after the second time, they

stopped everything,

put the hole in a different place.

No shit.

Yeah.

Because it was too easy?

Just to mix it up, I guess.

I don't know why.

Oh, because they were playing the same hole.

Yeah.

Got it.

Why would they do the same?

Okay.

All right, that makes sense.

Every tournament has

different playoff rules.

Like,

I wish they would do more

18-hole playoffs.

Yeah.

They don't even do that anymore.

Do they do that anymore for the USO players?

They might have just seen the USO rules.

I think they changed it.

Really?

Yeah.

After Rocco Mediate and

Tiger.

Can we change the case?

No, because I remember

when Dustin Johnson choked and Speeth won,

Dustin Johnson just had to touch for a playoff, and they would have played 18.

I don't know that they do an 18-hole playoff anymore though.

I know they used to.

2008

that set the record for the least amount of work being done on a Monday.

Two-hole aggregate now in the U.S.

Open.

Yeah, so you're like getting to take an extra, a bonus day of major golf is really what we all want.

Oh, but it's two-hole aggregate.

So it's not.

So it's not over after the first one.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Wait, didn't Bryson play him one last year?

No, that wasn't an.

You know, this is the part of the year where my brain kind of starts to slowly fade a little bit, where it's like, you're not as sharp.

Well, no, you know, you don't remember things.

It's the second that tiny, tiny bits of NFL news start to leak out.

Yeah, you push all the other stuff out of your brain because you start to get distracted by the next season.

And I think also, like, I'm not, I'm not built as a human being to be able to watch television shows and keep all sports in my head at the same time.

And this is my prime TV show watching time of the year.

Shout out

the boys, Shane Gillis, Francis, and Fights.

Idelberg.

Yeah, Tires.

So I'm going to watch it on Netflix.

But yeah,

I can't keep all the, like, everything.

I'm basically the

world's worst juggler.

Yeah.

I throw one ball up, and the minute the second ball goes up, I just drop the other ball.

Our brains aren't really meant to mix reality, which is sports, and fiction.

Right.

So like I can watch documentaries at the same time that I'm watching sports, but I can't do like a scripted show.

Correct.

I am dipping back into the Sopranos, though.

I can't wait for the part where Tony kills Christopher.

Oh.

Or he holds his nose.

Christopher.

All right.

Other news?

Nick Chubb on the Texans.

Yeah.

Cool.

I guess I'm rooting for him.

Yeah, I'm rooting for him.

He seems like a good guy.

Fuck yeah.

Why wouldn't we root for him?

He's a good guy.

Great runner.

We'd root for him.

Also, I had

UFC 316.

Sean O'Malley didn't jerk off for 10 months and then lost in the third round.

Not a good choice.

You got it.

Who do you lose to?

Good question, hey?

Mareb?

I think.

Imagine not jacking off just to get your ass kicked.

You have to, if you don't, if you come out and say, hey, I'm not jerking off, you have to, you have to win.

Win.

You have to win.

Who do you lose to?

Let's find out.

The second you lose.

We got a whose Google is it going on right now?

Diashiv.

Who's Googling right now?

Is it Max or is it...

This is Zach.

These are Zach fingers.

Max with Max fingers.

you.

How am I supposed to spell this?

Just say Sean O'Malley.

Just write in Sean O'Malley.

Or just UFC.

Valgeville.

I thought you were talking about the other guy.

Morab.

Yeah, I was right.

Morab.

Morab.

Yeah, fuck yeah.

I nailed that.

Is he next up?

Hey, give me some credit.

Oh, that's a funny picture.

He also, he's having sex, though.

Right.

Yeah, he's just not jerking off.

Which I don't, I think that, like, negates the whole point of the pressure.

Well, it depends on how much sex you're having.

He's probably having a fair amount of sex.

But isn't the point of not jerking off, you're building it up, keeping the testosterone inside of you.

So it's like if you're having sex, it's coming out.

Is that why his right hand was so much weaker?

I don't know.

I would never do this because I'm scared of just how much of a beast I'd become.

So, me?

I could register hands as lethal weapons.

Yeah, I don't want to go.

I'm afraid that I'll be the Hulk.

And we don't want that.

You wouldn't like me when I'm horny.

Or I have no willpower.

Also, I had another story.

I had two more stories I want to throw out there.

Memes.

Tom Thibodeau.

We're getting a little bit of some interesting stories coming out of his firing.

Are you nervous that it seems like this is a James Dolan piece?

James Dolan

did all the exit interviews, which is very weird for, I think, an owner to do the exit interviews with the players.

And the story I read, I think it was Vincent Goodwell wrote a story about basically it was he and Leon Rose in the exit interviews, and James Dolan was asking all the questions, being like the lead of the exit interviews, and he's the one who came up with the decision that he didn't like Tibbs and fired him.

Tibbs being fired aside, this would make me nervous as a Knicks fan because James Dolan, their little run here where they've gotten back to being a good team.

Feels like James Dolan took a step back.

Now he's maybe taking a step back forward, and he's a shithead owner that will ruin something.

Yes, so

I saw Nick Wright say this.

James Dolan, the past five years, has been occupied with the sphere, building the sphere.

Yep, did a great job.

Great job.

So Leon Rose was focusing on building the team properly, which he did.

And now the sphere is built.

You need another sphere.

Yeah, we need a mega sphere somewhere, so he just goes and builds that.

Build one in Chicago.

That would be so awesome.

Oh, you won't.

So sick.

You won't, James.

James, you won't, dude.

Who are you guys going to get?

Jason Kidd?

Jay Wright?

I don't know.

If James Dolan's involved, then Jason Kidd.

But if it's Leon Rose, it'll be a thorough process.

Maybe Jay Wright?

Maybe Jay Wright.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I heard Jay Wright is considering it.

That is wrong.

That was correct.

Max.

He has informed the Knicks that he's not interested in the job.

Have you ever bought a car?

Seth Davis.

Have you ever

been wrong.

Seth Davis reported that he informed

the Knicks.

I heard a podcast the other day.

Max, have you ever bought a car?

Yeah, I did zero negotiating.

Oh, okay.

Well, yeah, I can tell.

Because when you buy a car.

You can see PFD come and do it for me, actually.

Yeah, I'll do it.

Yeah, because when you buy a car,

you can usually get a really good price by saying, hey, you know what?

I'm good.

I don't want this car anymore.

And walk out.

Just like Jay Wright's like, hey, I don't want to coach this team.

It's called having a walkaway presence.

This is sad.

This is insane.

Expert negotiation.

That's the thing that you're doing to the listeners.

That was a great point, Big Hat.

Thank you, Memes.

Max, have you read Art of the Deal?

I haven't read anything.

Ingredients.

You started reading Wright Thompson's book.

Whether I finish it,

you promised me you were going to read a book this summer.

I know.

And I'm trying.

I'm trying hard.

I got you that bookmark.

Yeah, that's true.

I'm trying hard.

Right next.

Oh, where the fuck's my Pope?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, wait.

Okay,

I was supposed to tell you this.

I think last Wednesday.

What?

I came in the studio.

The Pope was shattered.

What?

The Pope was shattered.

That was a gift from Shane.

Somebody broke the Pope.

I put

it.

So

you found the broken Pope?

I found it.

I saw the Pope.

I was the last person to see the Pope.

Hank?

You

Hank does sit in my seat a lot.

He loves to sit in my seat and be like, I'm the big boss man.

Look at me.

He takes, he moves my shit, plugs in his shit, unplugs my computer, it's dead.

Do I even have my broken Pope?

I put it somewhere.

We got to send Shane back to Italy.

I was saving the evidence, but I forget where I put it.

Oh, my God.

That's got to be bad luck if you break the Pope.

Oh, boy, no.

John Lithgow, he did that.

What's...

When was it?

I want to say it was before we did last Wednesday.

It was either last Tuesday or last Thursday.

You can tell how much this Pope mattered.

Yeah, what happened to the Hula bobblehead?

She's right here.

Oh, okay.

She's still intact?

I can tell how much this broken Pope mattered to me that it took me six days to figure it out.

But I'm heartbroken.

Oh, shit.

Penguin threw out the first pitch, the White Sox?

Yeah, it just kind of walked to the mountain.

It walked to the mountains,

and then its handler threw the pitch.

That's sick.

Yeah, it was cool.

Hell yeah.

Did you guys worse than Taylor's?

No one was worse than Taylor.

Way better.

Did you see the zebra?

The zebra getting aircraft.

Oh, that was was me on Monday reading.

Okay.

I was going to talk about that, so let's save that.

The zebra.

Let's talk about that.

All-time clip.

Yeah.

AI, yeah, for sure.

All right.

So, Tom Thibodeau, so we feel not

James Dolan's going to be involved, and that's a problem.

That's a big problem for the Knicks.

New York has an owner's problem getting involved.

Yes.

It's bad.

That's going to be a big, big problem.

And then my other one was Michael Beasley, who I don't know if you guys saw the one-on-one he did with Lance Stevenson.

And some of those clips of him talking shit before were insane.

But I think I knew this, but then memory hold it.

But during the broadcast, Kyrie Irving said he was like, I will never play Michael Beasley one-on-one.

And like all the stories that come out about Michael Beasley beating LeBron one-on-one, he's like the greatest one-on-one player of all time.

Did you see this clip of him talking shit?

Yeah, I did.

Yeah, play it.

It's great.

It scared me the way he started talking to Lance Stevenson.

But I'm going to do it to you real.

I'm going to do it to you real nice and slow.

I'm going to do it to you sexy.

I'm going to make them people love you tonight.

You understand?

For real.

I'm going to make the people love you.

I'm going to have you shake it ass, nigga.

I'm going to make you dance, Lance.

I'm going to make you dance, Lance.

We're going to get straight to it, nigga.

I'm going to bring my dancing shoes.

I'm going to tap all over that court.

You understand?

I ain't going to shake that ass.

No.

Nobody in the world ever did that.

Hello, everybody.

Nobody at your service.

Nobody.

I love that.

Did you see what they put on Instagram?

No.

So Lance just said, great game, bro, and then tagged him.

And then Michael Beasley, he screenshotted it, reposted the story, and said, I love you to the moon and back.

Now grab a cigarette and a towel.

We made a sex tape Kim K would envy.

He was nasty.

Have you guys seen Beasley's tattoo on his back?

No.

Oh,

pull that shit up.

Super cool bees.

Oh, is that what it is?

I have seen it.

I think it says super cool bees

on his back.

This is going to take.

Oh, he got it.

Yeah, there it is with the angel wings.

Yeah.

Super cool bees.

Michael Beasley.

What a guy.

Bucket.

Bucket.

Couldn't stay off the weed.

But he is a bucket.

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Hank, who's back of the week?

Who's back of the week?

Is Magnus Carlson?

Yes.

Yes.

Against all odds.

I don't, I guess it wasn't a single elimination tournament or how that worked, but he came back.

He is, he won the 2025 Norway Chess Tournament.

Of course, he did.

Yeah.

Good for him, because for a while there, I was like, this guy just, all he does is lose.

Did he crash out?

No,

no, he won with class.

But bro crashed out the first time.

Yeah.

No crash out this time.

No.

He's the goat.

That's what people say.

He's the goat.

He is.

Statistically, he's the best to ever do it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good for him.

So good

ending for the week for him.

How was your weekend, Hank?

I had a good weekend.

I had some friends in town.

Nice.

Saw Billy Strings.

Nice.

Nice.

Couple truly.

Nice.

How many times have you seen Billy?

Just once.

Oh, really?

You didn't see him twice?

Saw him Friday.

You didn't see him with White Street Panic on Thursday?

No, we did the show.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

It's the damnedest thing I've ever seen.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Seemed like a sick show.

How'd you golf?

Not great.

We played like a scramble yesterday.

It was pretty casual.

Yeah, casual with the boys.

Yeah.

It's just casual.

Couple trulies.

Just having fun.

Just cash.

Couple trulies.

Yeah.

What was your best shot?

I don't know.

I don't know that I had one.

Oh, that's tough.

There's nothing's really popping off.

Damn.

I think Hank's devoting so much of his golf mental energy towards being a CEO.

Yeah.

This is a big week for

you.

That maybe your physical golfing ability might take a hit in the short term.

Yeah, and tomorrow we got the

golf.

Pause

today.

Yeah, today.

Yeah.

Got to do it.

Hands are tied.

I mean, for charity.

For the dog.

Yeah, for charity.

Yeah.

For the dog.

Every hole you don't play, dog dies.

Yep.

He's going to play all 18.

All right, PFT, PFT, who's your who's back?

Was that a Hank?

I had the course, too.

We kind of talked about it with Whitney, but it's U.S.

Open Week.

Yep.

So exciting.

Oakmont, the course.

All week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, is going to be a lot of course talk.

A lot of rough talk.

A lot of stim talk.

What's stim?

Is that the green thing?

That's the green speed.

Green speed.

Stim meter.

How do you measure how fast a green is?

I don't.

even want to answer that because I don't really know.

You just roll it on.

I'm pretty sure the stim thing is the thing that you roll it on.

Okay.

So it has a universal speed, and so they drop it from the same point, and depending on how fast it goes, that's how they determine it.

Got it.

Stimp meter.

Stimp meter.

Stimp.

Is that just a tool that they made for golf?

Like, it has no other use but to determine how fast a green is?

It sounds like something you would get implanted, like, if you can't get your dick card.

Yeah, the stimulus.

You like a stimp meter?

I got a stimp inserted.

Yeah.

Is that what is that what's going on here?

oh it's just a just a blue it's literally a piece of plastic and that's the stimp meter looks like a car stick hank wow next car stick could have that functionality in it yeah they really reinvented the wheel in this one stimp meter does it also matter it if the green's level well i'm sure they have to do it on a level surface i think did you see that shot phil hit yeah on real live per pure genius he's an artist out there class yeah he's an artist and he the golf course is his paintbrush Or his canvas.

The club is his, look at this.

Oh,

over his head.

Backwards.

In

to finish seventh at the Live Golf Virginia and not win it for the smash.

So just, it's how far, it's how far the ball goes.

I love the scoreboard.

The score word literally looks like Dude Perfect came out.

Dude Perfect doing an F1 race.

Yeah.

If it rolls 11 feet, it's an 11.

If it's 13 feet, so they're saying it's going to be 15.

Oh, I don't care about this.

That really,

that

they, they made it like, like, sound so much more scientific than just

a piece of plastic.

How far does it roll?

We roll a ball off this thing.

And then you say, damn, that went far.

Oh, man, we're rolling it a 16 today?

Holy shit.

I'm excited to see the videos that are going to come out as the players do their practice rounds.

Yeah.

You let the media on the course.

Throwing the ball in the green.

Yeah, the rough.

Yeah, you drop the ball on the the green and you like tap it and it goes like 60 feet.

That's going to be fun to see.

I love it.

The course is back.

All right.

Your who's back, PFT?

My first who's back is Gronk.

Oh.

Because it's 6'9 today.

Oh!

Yeah.

So happy holidays, Gronk.

Is there...

I don't think I've ever seen a hockey player wear number 69.

I was thinking about that because

we're going to get back into hockey numbers and then we get our player numbers and then we forget someone.

Gronk had said that he wished that he could wear 69 on the football field, which would have been a treat for everybody.

But I don't think I've ever...

That's one sport where I can't recall a 69.

I mean, there's definitely been 69s.

It's just, has there been like a famous 69?

I don't know.

Something to look into.

So they're back.

Also, Wimby.

Wimby is back.

Desjardins wore 69.

Oh, he did?

Yeah.

And did you see what happened with Wimby?

No, what happened with Wimby?

Wimby has been training to be a monk this offseason.

Oh.

He was in a temple in Shaolin.

He was at a Shaolin temple in China, and he shaved his head, and he's living life as a monk.

Wow.

I feel like this is, we're about to see Unlock Wimby.

Look at that picture of him.

Like, he's on his...

This is kind of some Kareem Abdul-Jabbar type shit.

Wow.

We're either going to see the least focused Wimby possible, where he's just gotten too much perspective, and he's just

realizing that basketball is inconsequential to our lives spent on this tiny pebble hurtling through space or he's going to come back focus as fuck and just kill everybody oh i think he might just come back focus as fuck he's got to like the what are the monks thinking when he shows up that's got to be the tallest guy that because a lot of them don't go anywhere yeah they don't see like aren't there some monks that like never seen a chick yeah and like they wemby comes that's got to blow their fucking mind they're like is are you two monks that's like that's like them going to the sphere yeah it's just them seeing someone that tall yeah wemby probably taught them more than they taught him.

Yeah.

Holy shit, they make him that tall.

There's like a jar that they've been trying to get down for the last 15 years.

Yeah.

Or a ball that got stuck up on the roof.

Yeah.

Hot dog in the ceiling.

Yeah, now he's a god to them.

Yeah.

But yeah, so I do feel like this is going to be Wimby fucks everybody up next season because he's figured out like secret ancient martial arts.

I agree.

All right, My Who's back.

I got two.

One is College Football 26 because it's coming, and I saw the new.

There's like people who get the beta, and

the graphics look awesome, and so does the score bug.

I'm just excited for it.

I just like kind of forgot.

We worked so hard to get it back, and now it's like, oh, yeah, we get an updated one every single year.

Yeah, we have to continue to play it because don't let them take it away from us again.

Yeah, exactly.

Okay, so my other who's back is Marlin's man, because we're going to talk about this with Whitney, but he is going to the games.

He invited us to the games,

and he's going to the games with Nikki Smokes.

He invited us to the game

but and I was like, hey, Marlins, man, we can't make it.

We got work to do.

Nikki Smokes is going to go down.

He's a Panthers fan.

He's from South Florida.

And he said that he would take Nikki Smokes, but he had stipulations.

Do you want to hear his stipulations?

I do.

All right.

One was Nikki Smokes has to wear a barstool hat.

Okay, we can make that happen.

Two, he has to take any pictures fans want of me.

Talking about Marlins, man.

Three, days before game three on podcast he invites all barstool followers to come up and take photos with us i guess we're doing that right now they're sitting on the glass so go take photos uh how are they gonna know if it's if marlin's man's there that's a really good question they'll probably be the guy with a huge huge line waiting to take pictures with him that is and also the huge huge line that nikki smokes will have that in the bathroom with nikki smokes nikki smokes has to he has to take all the pictures yeah he's a line guy he is a line guy whale tails is what they call him uh he they are in section Section 133.

Okay, so go say hi to Nicki Smokes and Marlin's Man, and Ricky Smokes will take your picture.

Winning photo gets to go with them and sit with him for game four.

I don't even understand the winning photo.

That's my favorite part.

The winning photo.

Yeah, there's a contest.

Winning photo.

And then five, can we make a blow-up doll?

Don't say this one.

Can we make a blow-up doll?

Don't say this one.

We're not saying this one.

Of bleeps, mom, to sit with us, or should I just get an inflatable sex doll and

man

with a sign around her neck saying, I fucking felt.

Okay, all right.

All right.

It was a bleep.

We don't know who that was.

All right.

I got a rough and rowdy.

I think you do.

I think you.

He just.

How old is Marlins man?

He just takes so much.

Similarly, it's fade on site.

Yeah, I saw him like you would have to.

Yeah, when I saw that text, I did tell PFT this text beforehand because I was like, this is crazy.

68 years old?

I'm not ashamed to beat up a 68-year-old man.

He's just crazy, man.

He's crazy.

I'll fight you in Rough and Rality, Marlins, man.

Ball's in your court.

So yeah, check out the dynamic duo of Nicki Smokes and Marlins, man at the game.

I don't know what's going to happen out of that.

All right, Zach, you got a who's back?

I do a who's back for you, sir.

Okay.

And also, for Monday reading,

we're going to do an update on the pub stomping.

People were wondering.

We'll do that at the end of the show.

I can do that for you.

Okay.

All right.

Who's back?

Who's back with the My Who's Back of the Week would be with the, you know, Chicago summer is finally here.

It's very hot outside, very humid.

My Who's Back is baby powder.

We're getting ahead of chafing.

We're getting out in front of it.

I thought he was going to say shorts for a second there.

And

we're going extra strength, green bottle.

We can't have

no chub rub, no chafe at all whatsoever this summer.

We're going to go baby powder.

Who's back?

Can't wait.

Chub rub.

Is that what we call it?

Chafing?

Chafing, chub rub.

Yeah, there's a couple different names we can toss in and out.

But just know, we're powdering up.

Do you powder every day before you you get out of the house?

Pre-powder most days.

And what's your powder routine?

Do you powder in your underwear or do you powder on your grundle?

I'm in the drawers guy.

You just go drawers.

So you don't go grunt, like, I'll sometimes, when I know it's going to be a swampy day, I'll just, I'll go straight powder on skin.

I don't have the kind of range of motion.

Oh, you can't get your hand back there?

Well, you can also, it's a squeeze bottle, so you can go underneath and then squeeze up if it's a full bottle.

Then we're sweeping up.

It's a whole thing.

But I like the tip.

What?

I like that pro tip on the powder.

Oh, pro tips yeah you go underneath and then you just squeeze up so how much do you do in your underwear it's like LeBron pregame liberal amount nothing crazy nothing nuts no but that's a smart that's a good call because I actually I have not I don't I do I'm a big reaction reactive guy when it comes to this not proactive like I'll wait till I have a really bad day where it's swamp ass then I'll go buy it you got to get ahead of it got to stay ahead at all costs yeah I wish I could go back in time and experience the powder for the first time ever oh what a feeling what a feeling

Yeah.

Your day is so awesome to have people put that on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That and the icy hot, the first icy hot.

Yeah, but you don't want to come back.

Not on your balls.

I'm saying like icy hot on your, like on a, on a, like an ankle or something.

It's a bad feeling if you get the icy hot on the boys.

Yeah.

No, I'm not asking for that.

I'm not crazy.

Yeah, good call.

Good call.

Bringing the powder back.

That's a really good call.

There we go.

Yeah, yeah.

So

how many bottles of powder would you go through in Florida?

You just keep one of the big ones on.

You go hit the the Sam's Club.

Yeah, but would you go through it in like a couple weeks?

No, no, no, no, throughout the summer would go.

Oh, okay,

crazy, yeah, yeah, that's why you stay ahead of it.

Yeah, you gotta stay ahead of it, proactive.

Uh, okay, uh, let's get to Ryan Whitney, then we'll finish with uh a quick story about a zebra and uh an update on the pub stomping.

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Okay, here he is, Ryan Whitney.

Okay, we now welcome on on our best friend is very, very, very, very special guest.

Number one in pardon my take history is Ryan Whitney, Spittin' Chiclets podcast, coming off, I'm going to say it, the best, one of the best, if not best, Stanley Cup final games I've ever seen.

It was incredible Friday night.

Also, like the series just in general, two overtime games.

Incredible, incredible.

Witt, let's start with that Friday night.

Have you recovered?

And was that one of the best Stanley Cup final games you've ever seen?

I don't remember the start of a Stanley Cup final ever being this, not only entertaining, but just back and forth.

And the biggest thing being

they're so much better than every of the other 30 teams in the league.

Like, it's quite obvious that these two teams are just at another level.

And after seeing game one, I figured there'd be a little feeling out process and boom, like, not at all.

They just flying around.

Both teams, I think, had five and six days off before game one.

But knowing it was in Edmonton, like that place, I got to experience a finals, two finals games there last year.

They lost three, but then won four.

So I knew the madness.

The city was insane after they won game four last year.

You would have thought they went up 3-1.

No, it was just to stay alive.

It was crazy.

So I'm like, oh, my God, it's starting there this year.

And it has not disappointed.

I mean, like, the way how hard these guys are playing, how good these teams are defensively.

Like, you watch at times, Florida, I said on chicklets, it looks like they have six guys on the ice.

Like, I'm like, there has to be too many men on the ice because they're just everywhere.

There's three guys around the puck.

And then when Edmonton gets going, like, offensively, they're just flying around their own, the offensive zone.

It's just been incredible hockey.

Like, the both games go in overtime.

Yeah, I don't remember two games ever being this entertaining to begin a cup final, where a lot of times people worry that they're so beat up and exhausted that it can be maybe not great.

But this one, I said before the series, seven games, no matter what, done deal.

And now, I mean, how do you see this not going seven?

It's just, it's incredible.

And I want it to go seven.

Most Oilers fans say, no, we'll win in five.

We don't care.

We'll win in four if we could.

No, I need to see seven games.

That's how good this hockey is.

And if you don't like hockey, I think even there are some people probably tuning in, like, what are we watching right now?

Like, this is like being on crack.

I wouldn't know that.

I mean, what McDavid did, I actually have a question about that.

And this is not me being a hater, but it was an incredible movie.

Oh, you're the biggest hater.

No, I'm not.

No, I'm not.

I have a question about that because I did see, this is not what I'm saying.

Other people are saying that Barkov might be injured.

I don't, I don't, when, when he does that to guys, you can't do the injury.

He does it to everybody.

He might be injured because of that play.

He literally crossed him up.

He broke his ankles.

He broke his ankles.

And then who was the next guy?

Ekblad.

Yeah.

At least Barkov stayed on on his feet ekblad was swimming around on his back by the end of that and then when he gets it right and he's kind of going at barkov he has the those cut moves he has it's like barry sanders on skates it's crazy and then ekblad comes flying he backhand toe drags him but the craziest thing to me is in the middle of the toe drag he's already looking over and like the end of the move is just sliding it across the tricidal That's when I, I think I like, I started running around the room.

I was with a buddy whose brother works for the Panthers.

So he's really rooting for the Panthers.

And I'm running around, greatest hockey player of all time.

I just started tweeting that.

It's incredible to watch him.

And even though they lost game two,

I just, the way he looks right now and the Oilers, I can't see him losing this series.

It's going to be the worst thing ever if somehow this ends on the wrong side with the Panthers winning.

But I don't think McDavid's going to let it happen.

Yeah, I don't think he will either.

I think this is his time.

And there was one play in particular where Sam Bennett, he

kicked the stick away.

He kicked it over the blue line, got it out of there, then ended up filtering back towards the goal.

I think he scored on that play, too, actually.

But is there such a thing as an unwritten rule in hockey?

And if so, did he break one?

I would say no.

I don't like at this point in the season, there is just this is prison rules.

This is like whatever it takes.

And Sam Bennett, I've said many times, I would do anything if he was on the Oilers, but I hate his guts when he's him being on the other team.

Like this guy, he has mastered the whoops.

Did I do that?

Like the accidental on purpose, where any sort of contact in front of the goalie, he goes down in a way that you really can't like.

He got a penalty on the one, which he probably didn't deserve, but I do think he deserved it because I think he knows exactly what he's doing.

And it's insane that he's he's scoring this much, too.

I think, what do you get?

His 13th, 12th, or 13th goal.

They're all on the road.

It's like the guy's just a serial killer, sociopath, but that play, no, that's just right now.

You do anything it takes.

Anything.

Just win.

Just win.

So just win.

With the two overtime games, you split them.

Do you think that the Oilers are happy with this result?

Yes,

I do.

I mean,

you want to hold serve, and now they lost home ice.

I actually said to somebody the night before game two, if they win tonight, I think they'll lose both in Florida, and if they lose tonight, I think they'll split in Florida.

Like, just setting this thing up for seven.

But the way they played, they got to be pretty happy.

I think that the second period, both games, was kind of a disaster.

The first game, I mean, they took the first game, the third period in overtime.

That was like, that's when I really felt they're going to win this series.

Like, they looked so much better, faster, quicker than the Panthers.

I started thinking,

I thought back to when Tampa was going for their third straight cup,

they kind of ran through the Eastern Conference, and then they got to the finals, and it was just like Colorado just overwhelmed.

They had nothing left.

And that game one with Edmonton, Florida, I said, oh, maybe Florida actually, like third year in a row there, maybe it's kind of like they just don't have what it takes, and Edmonton's this hungry.

But of course, they answer the bell in game two.

Your question's a good one because I think they would.

I think they would.

You're a great question asker.

I don't know.

What is that jacket?

Why are you guys wearing those jackets?

It's Edmund Translation.

You guys are scumbags.

Fan ambassadors.

You guys are scumbags.

Let me tell you, I didn't even notice them right now.

You guys told you it's McDavid's year.

Hank, you're a dickhead.

You have it on?

Hank's wearing it, too?

I just want to wear it.

I'm rooting for the Panthers, but the Oilers made us fan ambassadors.

No, you guys, you guys are.

You have to, we're pretty much a part of the team.

You guys,

to have the platform platform that you guys do, to openly root again.

Like, I got no problem if you want Florida, but you're solely doing this so McDavid doesn't win.

And your big names in sports media, it's actually pathetic.

It makes me want to hang up this call right now.

Like, you guys, it's so weird to think that this is.

It's all because of you, though.

Why because of me?

Because I've been so friends.

Big friendship.

You went to a game.

Big friendship.

You went to a game.

You texted me.

Oh, my God.

You're right.

You were like, wait, wait, you're so smart.

This guy's the best

athlete I've ever seen.

He is.

And then you're still like, you want him to lose in overtime.

I don't really.

Well, no, I do because of you.

That's friendship.

Okay, so fine.

And

I get that friendship rooting against each other, part of being friends.

I will root against the Bears and the Brigands.

And the reason it's going to be the easiest thing ever for you.

You're going to win the ball.

I hope the worst things happen to you guys and your teams.

And

I hope Jaden Daniels finally goes off.

I'm telling you.

You guys are scared.

I took it off.

I took it off.

I hope it's not.

I took it off.

I took it off.

I took it off.

I took it off.

I took it off before you said anything.

I took it off.

Don't you want to see the greats...

Some of the greatest talent I've ever witnessed win a Stanley Cup?

I do.

That's what I'm saying.

Did you guys hate me that much?

No, I love you that much.

It's actually the reverse.

I love you.

You'd be rooting for the Knicks for your boy Jerry O'Connell if they were in the finals.

No, probably not.

No, you wouldn't.

No, I wouldn't.

I would root for Bing Bong to have the exact same, like, a seven-game devastation.

Okay, fine.

Well, you know what?

I'm going to be just buying your QB's voodoo dolls next football season.

And that's what we're going to do.

And now this win would mean that much more.

I know.

I've actually thought about it.

Like, if they do, if the Oilers win,

we will obviously have you on right away, and you will just get to shit down our throats for the entire time.

Yeah, and you guys will be like, Oh, no, no, I knew he was good, I knew he was good,

oh no, big cat's line.

I bet him, though, I won money, man.

I'm happy, I want it established right now.

I did not bet him.

There you go, appreciate this.

Dave's established, yeah.

Dave did, which is a big munch.

All right, I got a question about the Panthers.

Yep, uh, Marshawn, how the hell is he doing it?

37 years old, and it felt like watching that overtime, he had the most gas out of anyone on the ice.

And he obviously scores the game winner.

By the way, before the game winner, which I want you to talk about, did you, were you, when he went through Skinner's legs and it hit the post, were you like Team of Destiny?

Because at that point, I was like, there's nothing going to stop the Oilers here.

The fact that Puck didn't go in was so fucking insane.

I was like,

it's just their year.

But then obviously he scores the overtime goal winner in the second overtime.

Were you like, how is he doing this?

He's 37.

Yeah, he's just so skilled.

And I actually went back to Team of Destiny.

When Perry tied it up, I'm like,

oh, my God, they're going to win this game too.

And Perry's 40, and he looks phenomenal, too.

But Marshan,

little hockey term, like his edge work is crazy.

And I actually think he's a guy who, he's a guy who is better because he's smaller.

He gets like underneath guys almost.

And his edges on his skates, they're just incredible.

And I remember skating with him during the lockout, like the 2012 lockout, whatever, 2013, whatever it was.

And I'm like, oh my god, you can't get the puck from him.

And every time you go into kind of 50-50, get there at the same time, he just somehow gets the puck, whether he's lifting your stick, whether he's giving you a little butt end.

He's just a genius out there when he plays.

And when he really struggled at the beginning of this season when he was playing,

he had three surgeries last summer.

Like,

I mean,

at 25 years old, it's going to be hard to feel normal and play well after three offseason surgeries.

He's 37 and does it.

Then he goes to four nations, looks good.

And then the fact that the Panthers got him, that's what's disgusting.

And

I watched that all go down.

It was like the last minute of the deadline.

Like, oh, breaking news.

We have Marchand's been traded to the Panthers.

I'm like, what?

How the fuck did the Panthers get this guy?

The Bruins should have never let that happen.

And for a second rounder that I think now turned into a first because of how far Florida's made it, how many games he's played.

But this is exactly how I thought it would go down with him in Florida.

It's the perfect team for him.

He's got Bennett.

He's got Kachuk.

And you thought he might play with Barkov or Kachuk.

No, he's playing with Luce Durin and Lundell, these finished monsters on this incredible third line.

And that's probably been their best line overall in the playoffs.

That goal he got, man.

He comes down and Leon Dreisettel had a hell of a back check on him.

And I thought that Dreisettel did a good enough job where Marshawn couldn't get it to to his backhand and that Skinner just led in a horrible goal.

It wasn't a good goal, but once I saw it, somehow Marshawn got his backhand on it.

Like, no quit in his game.

He'd already scored a shorthander earlier in the game.

He's just a machine.

It's not surprising to me based on kind of knowing him and how driven he is, but it sucks to watch.

It really does.

Rudy playing.

Playing against the Panthers, because you know I'm playing in this cup final.

Yeah, you are.

You are.

They're the worst.

Like, they are so good.

They're always in your face.

They always answer the bell.

They go down.

They tie it up.

They're just animals.

And they're champions for a reason.

And now you're going to try to beat these guys.

It's hard.

And it's stressful as shit.

Are you?

So Skinner has actually looked good.

I know there's been a ton of goals, but he's looked good.

And he's made some insane saves.

Are you worried, though, at all about Bob, like locking in?

Because that would be...

Like, Yans texted me during the game because he gave us the under on Friday night, which was a terrible pick.

Terrible pick.

And he's not on Twitter, so I just was getting all the shit for him.

Everyone's like, hey, where's Yanz?

Like,

I was just getting all of it.

And so he texted me, though, in, I think it was the second period when it was, I can't remember the score.

I think he gave,

when

they gave up, yeah, it was the start of the second period.

He's like, Bob's not going to give up another one.

And until 17 seconds left in the third period, he was right.

And I was like, holy shit.

So like, it did feel like Bob kind of locked back in.

Are you worried, though, that we're going to get one of those games from him where it's like he just sees everything and he shuts the door?

Yes.

And going into the series, I said I wasn't worried as much about the Panthers being animals and just dirty and in your face and so hard to play against as much as I was worried about Bob.

You got to figure he's going to steal a game.

Last year it was game one.

The Oilers dominated and it was the Bob show.

And then he kind of fell apart in four, five, and six.

Like there was, it was a disaster, right?

They almost blew that series.

But now he hasn't done that yet, and he's going home.

So, yes, I mean, I'm worried about a bunch of different things, but Bob's the number one on that list based on the fact that he just gets in these like grooves.

And whether it's the entire game or like even game two for 35 minutes on the game clock, he just seems like you can't be beat.

But I have noticed they're going at his glove.

And they've beat him beneath his glove.

They've beat him above it.

So down low, you can't score on him.

That's like the scouting report.

Everyone knows he's just so flexible and quick.

He takes away everything down low.

But if you could keep attacking his glove and getting traffic in front,

we might have a chance here.

But

it's almost like, do you even want your team in the finals?

Sounds stupid.

You need to win the cup.

But watching these games, dude,

I'm biting my nails.

I'm freaking out.

It's double overtime.

I'm making coffee.

It's just nothing beats it, which is what's so nice about knowing that neither one of you will ever see your team play in a Super Bowl.

You won't even get to experience this with the voodoo dolls.

You don't have to worry about it, yeah.

No, you're absolutely right.

When it comes to play FIF,

I've loved watching these games, and it's been all just all facets of the game have been incredible, including the goaltending has been really good, even though there's been a lot of goals scored.

So I'm having a lot of fun watching, but also as not a fan of either one of these teams, when it goes into overtime, I'm just like, yes, this is even better now.

But if you're a fan of that team, overtime is the absolute worst thing to happen to you in the playoffs.

Are you a little bit concerned as a fan, as a member of the team of the Edmonton Oilers, that you have to take on not just Marlinsband, but also Nikki Smokes?

Yeah.

I could care less about Nikki Smokes.

He's a legit nobody.

Like,

Nikki Smokes, like, who is this guy?

He's on a month-to-month contract at Barstall.

Yeah, I think Marlins Band.

I think it's typically

28 days by the flow cycle.

Yeah,

I linked Marlin's man and nikki smokes together today and i said it it must be what oppenheimer felt like because like this could this could end the world like the two of them the like they're more likely to end up in prison than do anything that's going to hurt the oilers like two scumbags i i i don't even know if nikki smokes walked hockey before last year like now now you know what your team wins you have all the right to talk all the shit but like he tweets at me i read it it's just like i do it's it's it's like any other troll coming at me on twitter like he's a nobody.

They're on the

bar.

Sorry, he's on the barstool summerhouse.

He is on the summer house.

You know, they're on the glass for game three.

Are they?

Yes.

Yes.

Wow.

Marlinsman has four tickets on the glass.

I mean, Nikki will take his shirt off, like, show his abs off.

He's legit that guy.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, we paid him to get in shape, pretty much.

He would just work out from nine to five every day.

It's like, he keeps posting these, like, anyone could do it.

It's like, not anyone, dude.

You have a gym in your office and you just, you work out during the day.

What do you do for work?

I work out, and I whack girls that I work with.

Oh, it's a sweet job.

All right, so what is the plan?

You're going down.

The Chiclets Crew is going to be in Miami.

Are we worried about the gout with Biz?

I haven't talked to him in a little while.

I assume he's off the red meat.

No, I'm not.

Getting the goat with me.

Not drinking.

You would think there'd be some alcohol, wine involved in the goat, but to tell us that he was eating 20 ounces of steak every day for a couple weeks, like that is crazy.

We're excited to get down there.

I mean, it's a pain in the ass getting to that arena.

It's in, what is it, sunrise?

Sunrise, yeah.

But, but I'll say, when I was there, the team was brutal.

I was there for seven games.

I was a plug, but the crowd wasn't great.

Now, with these teams, they have though, that building's electric.

It's not at all Rogers in Edmonton, but it's good.

And so, getting there will be very special.

And then Monday or tonight, we'll be at the game.

I'm

flying down early.

And then Tuesday, we're doing our pod live from the Elbow Room.

Oh, so very cool.

So we'll be going over the first three games of the series.

We'll have some special guests in.

Great spot to sit there.

I mean, Merles, this is Merle's dream come true.

The guy's been talking about going back to the elbow room since game seven ended last year.

So we're back.

We're back.

Wait, and then what happens?

Are you guys going to go

to five or seven in Edmonton?

Is there any plans for that?

So I'm going to game seven in Edmonton if it gets there, which I believe it will be.

I didn't go to games one and two.

I had a bunch of stuff going on here.

So going to three and four.

We'll shoot home and then get ready for game seven.

If it happens, I'll be on a plane probably to Denver, then to Calgary with a star, get to Edmonton, 12-hour travel day, get to the arena, start drinking, and just maybe paint my face.

I like that.

Are you bringing clubs to to Florida?

No, I'm not because I actually texted the group.

I said, can we play golf?

And then I got the itinerary.

We got the show and interviews after Tuesday.

We have three interviews Wednesday.

And then Thursday's game four.

Don't know if maybe time in the morning of game four, I could play some golf, but I want to lug the clubs down and then not play.

Yeah.

So if we do play, I'll be doing the rentals.

You know, the rental game.

Yep.

So asterisks on the scorecard if you don't shoot well.

I wouldn't even post it.

I wouldn't even post it.

You got to get ready.

You got some high-level golf coming up.

I know.

Believe me, guys.

You know what, though?

I played in a member guest this weekend, Boston Golf Club champions, myself and my buddy, the boot dog.

So that's a nice little thing.

Win a tournament, leading.

And that's why when we won it, I said, the Oilers are winning the cup.

I just want something.

I never win anything.

Everything's coming up Whitney.

Yeah.

Everything's coming up Whitney.

Well, now I got to hang out with Nikki Smokes.

He'll be sitting with us at the elbow room in my ear.

See that girl I banged her.

It's a great thing though because if Nikki Smokes is representing the Panthers, even some Panthers fans will be like, fuck this.

I'm rooting for the Oilers now.

Yeah, exactly.

He'll turn anyone.

Yeah, yeah.

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Now, here's more Ryan Whitney.

All right so uh

the other thing i had to ask you about is uh well hank do you have any questions about the is the edmonton oiler ambassador fan ambassador no i i'm i'm excited for game seven yeah okay

you're just going right ahead

yeah

i'm taking one thing from this interview this series is going seven whatever why don't you guys why don't you guys put your balls on the line and tell me that you'll come up and experience a game seven for the cup final in the craziest arena in the world if it happens.

We should.

Guys, Guys, I've been on your show.

I've been on your show close to 30 times.

Tell me right now.

Okay, wait,

come on.

What's the date?

It's Friday.

June 19th.

No, it's June 20th.

Friday, June 20th.

Come on, guys.

My son's birthday is June 19th.

I'm not going to miss that.

You are going to be able to do it.

Okay, so fly in the morning, the 20th.

Come on, guys, guys.

Guys,

I get him.

Guys, can I get a yes?

I'm going to go home that weekend, Willie.

I'll go, Whitney.

Oh, we'll send him.

Are there direct flights from Chicago?

there actually might be I bet oh man

oh it's Friday June 20th yeah if I can find it guys guys guys all the shit we've talked us sitting together you rubbing the boys the boys

talking shit yeah

guys

guys I've done a lot for you

I'm actually gonna look at it that's the nicest thing I could do because usually I just say no to anyone asking me to do anything I'm actually gonna look at it if I could get a flight that is like gets me there and back with like in like 20 hours total.

Oh, but you could leave that morning, get there, go to the game, leave the next morning.

I've been doing the same thing.

Yeah.

Do they have a red eye?

They might.

I'm going to look at it.

That's a big deal.

Me looking at it.

I mean, have either one of you guys ever been to a game seven of anything?

I went to game seven, uh, Blackhawks, Red Wings.

Uh, what year was that?

I went to that.

No, I'm talking to game seven for a title.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

But that was a sick game.

I went to game seven, Sox, Red Sox, Yankees.

When they came back, they didn't download the city.

And they blew them out.

Yeah.

Oh, that's pretty sweet.

Yeah, I was cool.

And you weren't even...

Were you living in New York then?

No, no.

This was when I was in college.

I was just a fan.

I was a fan of the story.

I got caught up.

I want to see history.

Well, what a story this would be seeing the greatest hockey player of all time raise a stand they call.

Hey, guys, did you know a couple stats, though?

You know, I'm sure you talked about the Gretzky Crosby, how Gretzky.

Yep.

yep shout out you you're the one who well pft had it but you also said it on the live stream that there was another one that came out that

i don't know it's it's seven it's six or seven times a team's been in the cup final after losing the first two games of the first round oh they've all won the cup oh And Edmonton lost the first two games of the first round this year.

Oh, that's interesting.

That's another one.

That's another one.

Big one.

History.

It's a team of destiny.

Now, losing game two, it was so funny because going into game two, I was so confident.

I'm like, dude, they got game one.

Last year, they go down 03.

Boom, we're great.

We lose game two.

And like any fan knows immediately, you're like, I don't know if we're going to win.

I don't think we can win.

We're fucked.

We're going back there now.

So it's the highs and lows are just something else.

But you know what?

My body's sore.

I've been grinding since the first game against L.A.

I mean, I'm on the East Coast guys.

These games, they were 10, 10, 30, 10, 50 starts first.

I was thinking of you in the second second overtime.

I was like, I don't know how much more wits got in the tank because it was just going like, you know, it crossed into Saturday.

I was like, this guy's got to be five.

And I teed off at like 7, 10 Saturday.

Oh, my God.

What a warrior.

No one works harder.

Oh, I got a hockey question for you.

And this is going to sound stupid and you're going to tell me it's stupid, but it's actually a Conor McDavid compliment.

Do you think I could score a goal on Conor McDavid's line?

Yes, I actually think any person could.

I do too.

Dry Seidel is unbelievable, but some of the passes that he gives Dry Seidel, when Dry Sidel's on that right side, and it's just, he just breaks the whole defense down and they're all everywhere.

And then it's like, obviously, Dry Sidel's incredible, but like, it's just right there.

And he just puts it right in.

And he buries it.

If you started July 1st skating with like a skating instructor skills coach two to three times per week, okay, so for July, August, you go to camp mid-September, and then you were in camp, and then you played on his line.

Every shift he was out there, you play with him.

By game 10, you're scoring.

The problem is offsides because I would want to cherry pick, but I would just.

No, I mean, the line would be.

The problem is like you'd be fucking eating ice cream during the meetings and miss the start of warm-ups.

But that's how good Connor McDavid is.

I really do think he's just that special that he

like he makes everyone so much better.

And yes, I would.

And you guys host pardon my take, and you rude against him.

We do not ruin

him.

We don't.

I'm a Ryan Whitney fan ambassador.

I'm going to get a Ryan Whitney jacket because I believe in you, Witt.

I believe you.

I had three different Whitney Oilers jerseys in the crowd sent to me the other day.

Imagine if you told those people when they were booing me out of town that years and years later, that you'd be wearing a Witt jersey to the Oilers in the cup final based on my love and passion for the team.

Now, granted, I did quit being a fan last year for about 14 days, but

that doesn't matter anymore.

I think I remember the spaces when you did it.

It was like an emergency series.

They lost to San Jose.

Yeah, and you kicked me out of the spaces because I wanted to talk NBA.

Do you want to talk NBA at all?

I mean,

game one was incredible.

Yeah, I actually, I was rattled because I put it on whatever was going on.

I was watching something, and then I realized there was like 10 minutes left.

And they were probably, what, down like 12 or 13 with 10 minutes left?

Yeah, they were down 15 with like nine and a half minutes left.

And I just like shut it off.

And then all of a sudden, I on Twitter, I saw it was going crazy.

I'm like, what the fuck?

And I checked the app.

I was like, oh my God.

That's what they did.

They win that game.

So they seem a little team of Destiny 2.

I couldn't give a shit about that series.

I mean,

that has to be one of the worst matchups for like TV.

Now, this is coming over somebody where Edmonton, Florida isn't, I don't think, ripping in the ratings for the NHL, but but NBA is a disgrace.

But we don't, I mean, we don't care about the ratings.

We firmly don't care about the ratings podcast because we've said it before.

There's never been a game, an incredible game I've watched and been like, man, I wish more people were watching this.

Like afterwards, being like, game five of an RO.

I agree.

Friday night being like, that was the best Stanley Cup final game I've watched, and then seeing the ratings on Saturday and being like, actually, it wasn't that good.

You guys are coming to game seven, guys.

You guys have to be.

You know what?

I think all your listeners, everyone listening who love these guys, please get on them.

Say, you got to go with Wit to game seven.

I'm going to.

I'm such an Oilers believer that I don't think it's going to get to seven.

Oh, you think they're going to get game?

Now I might, you might actually have found a way for us to root for the Oilers.

If they get a series lead, I'm going to be rooting for them to close it out so I don't have to go to Edmonton.

I actually think, though, I want it for the content and hanging out and being awesome.

It's incredible.

But I think it would be one of the coolest sporting experiences of your life.

Absolutely.

Not just being game seven for the cup.

Like, you have to see this arena and what these people are like.

They're maniacs.

They're completely crippled four hours before the puck drops.

I love that.

And then they're lunatics in the rink the whole time.

Imagine if I won the 50-50.

It was 8.9 million the other day.

It's incredible.

8.9 million.

Oh, yeah.

What's the difference between that barn and Montreal?

Because

I loved going to the Canadiens Stadium.

That was incredible.

What a great environment up there.

Yeah, we were talking about that

whenever I was with you last, but it was

it.

Montreal's building is just a lot like kind of tighter and smaller.

So

it's incredible.

I actually think that that's one and two in the league, and you could flip-flop who's one and who's two.

But it's very, very similar, just on a larger scale, if that makes any sense.

I just look, by the way, there are no direct flights.

Well, you know what, buddy?

I'm coming from fucking Boston.

Yeah, but there's no direct flight.

What I'll do is

we'll meet in Denver, and I think there's direct from Denver.

And, Dan,

I'm not going to say what the tickets you've sent me of, how much you bet.

Get a private jet for us.

I'll fly to Chicago.

We'll shoot up Abbas and shoot home.

That could be a possibility.

I'll split it with you.

I'll split it with you.

And by split with it, I mean not pay.

Now we're talking.

Well, Dave will pay for it.

Okay.

Fair enough.

Let's be honest here.

Fair enough.

Dave's going to pay for it.

That would be a nice tight trip, too.

I feel like we could make that happen.

We could legit.

I could fly into Chicago the night before.

We leave in the morning, game seven.

Right after the game, we leave.

Unless the Oilers win, we go to McDavid's house.

Well, do you think he'd let us in?

He won't let me in, so we're definitely not going.

Do you want to talk a little U.S.

Open real quick?

Have you ever played Oakmont?

I played Oakmont three years ago.

The thing was, the night before, it rained like three inches, and the guy who was hosting us, we showed up.

He's like, this isn't the Oakmont.

Oakmont's all about the speed of the greens.

Like, I think this week they said they're going to be rolling at like a 15 on the stem meter, which for non-golf people is just Chinese, but basically, 15 is like almost unplayable for a lot of people.

And they have the slope, and the course was incredible.

They took down thousands of trees.

I think at one point it was kind of tree-line.

Now it's almost link-style, but an incredible test.

And I think, based on what I've been reading and seeing on Twitter, like we might have like an an over par winner for the.

I don't know.

Yeah, that's what I love about the U.S.

Open.

Can we have somebody, one of your stat guys, maybe look up the last time a major winner was over par?

I know when Mickelson blew the U.S.

Open at Wingfoot years ago when Jeff Ogilvie won, he finished over par.

It was Brooks.

I want that.

It was Brooks and Shinnecock.

He was over par for that one.

I think he was plus one.

Wow, yeah.

And Shinnecock and Oakmont are two of, I think there's five clubs that make up like the,

what's the word, like basically like the

home of U.S.

golf.

I think it's the Country Club in Boston, Shinnecock, Oakmont, and I don't know the other ones, but somebody could look that up as well.

And that just shows that it'll be just as hard as they could make Shinnecock, Oakmont will be.

Good English way.

So it's going to be, it's going to be like super fast greens.

Do they grow the rough out?

Yeah, you know, that's the new thing.

They just, every guy makes the video of them dropping the ball on the rough.

It disappears.

It's like okay guys they go to like the worst spot on the course and they throw it in the grass and they're like where'd it go and then you're like golfers like they

they really seem to complain and hate when it's really difficult i love it all these weeks they're always you know 18 20 under to win a tournament like Give the fans one week of watching them look like how we always look.

Yeah, yeah.

We root for the course in the U.S.

Open.

Not only that, but I don't like watching a golf tournament where it's like they get to a par five and like a birdie's a bad scorer.

Like I want to see them struggle.

I want to see them make like tough shots, difficult shots.

You know, when like some of these tournaments, Scotty, he's at a par five and it's like, it's almost guaranteed he's going to hit an eagle.

Yeah.

Or a bird.

Yeah.

He'll have an eagle putt.

Right.

He'll have an eagle putt no matter what.

He'll put it or make it.

Right.

Yeah.

I just, I,

I guess this year there's no like

first cut.

So, you know, you got the fairway and then you got the rough.

Well, usually there's a layer a little above the fairway that's less than the rough that a lot of times if these these guys miss by such small margins it ends up in the first cut well this just goes from fairway into whatever five inch rough whatever it is so the fairways you got to hit them that's why unfortunately scotty may just walk away with this one too right because he just hits it so straight um

but it's very exciting for me to watch at a course I've played and like a course that we know can kind of beat him up a little bit.

So I'm excited for that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, the fact that you played it, what did you shoot?

Ah,

God,

78, 79.

I remember I played with Gustav Nyquist.

He was in.

We had eight guys, and he came in and he shot Even.

He plays, where is he playing now?

Minnesota?

I don't even know.

He's in the NHL.

He's a great golfer.

I was like, Jesus Christ, you shot Even Parr out there.

So amazing experience, though.

Their pro shops the size of the Chicago barstool office.

It was bananas.

Do they have an ice cream machine?

No, but I mean, that'll be, that thing's going to be broken and what?

Oh, what is that?

It's working right now.

What is that?

You slobs just wearing that thing down.

That's just as hurtful as me rooting against McDavid.

Why do you think I said it?

We should get the boys doing like keg stands out of the ice cream machine.

Waterboard yourself with ice cream.

Oh, yeah.

The cold headaches just killing people.

Yeah.

Are you thinking about picking any of us for your Ryder Cup team?

That's a great question.

Wait, I might be good now.

I saw you quit like 10 days ago.

I did.

I quit 10 days ago.

It was a tough day at the Bev.

It quit me back.

Yeah, I had a tough day at the Bev, but then, you know, sometimes you get a calling, and Hank is turning my game around as we speak.

So I gotta get it.

How do we do this?

Does everyone have obviously like a hand that gets you?

No, no handicaps.

No, no, no.

No, no, it's no handicaps.

You just pick like how we did it last time.

It's just 12 guys.

You pick six guys a team, and then you, and then you can do the matchups.

But there's like

some, there's some players, there's some really good guys, and there's obviously like me and Jerry.

And

I don't know, PFT's better than me, Hank's better than me, but I'll probably be.

PFT and you should do like a one-on-one

match for YouTube, and it'd be pretty sick, I bet.

Well, he'll beat me, but the last last

Ryder Cup, remember, PFT and I had a match, and we just conceded

the whole match because we played Darian and Trent.

We get addicted to conceding.

Like, we would, we would tee off and hit bad T-shots, be like, we conceded this hole.

It's a part five.

Yeah, you weren't even in it, right?

You didn't play.

No, I wasn't there that year.

Yeah, we did a,

we like stacked the matchups.

We're like, all right, PFT and Big Cat will lose to Trent and Arian.

It's fine.

We can lose this one.

I think we tied him on the, we halved him on the first hole, and we're like, holy shit, we're about to shock the world.

We might have beaten him on the first hole.

And then we just lost like nine holes in a row and just kept on conceding.

We'd like hit a driver and be like, all right, concede.

It's so funny.

Let's see what we can here.

Let's have a drink.

Yeah, let's have a drink.

So it's funny.

You can look at my scorecard from Friday, and you can see exactly when I cracked the first beer on the scorecard.

Because you started playing better or worse?

Way better.

Way better.

So I went triple, double, triple, and then par, par, par, par

in a row.

Just one beer.

And that's the trick to golf, really.

You made four pars in a row?

Yeah, and that's the trick to golf is you have to find the perfect amount of being inebriated to be loosened up, but not so much like the golden zone, the golden ratio.

If you can just stay like a little bit drunk for the entire round, then you can be great at golf.

You can be like a pro.

You're speaking my language right now.

Yeah.

It's amazing.

You just got to find all of a sudden, just your brain stops like thinking about your swing,

positions you got to be in and what you got to do to hit the ball straight.

You just get up there, you're having fun, swing, and all of a sudden you're money.

And then, you know, after you're...

The next morning, you're like, I'm way too hungover.

Like, I played golf.

It's not like I went out.

Yeah.

Right.

All right.

I got one last question for you, Witt.

This has been fun.

We're going to look at flights.

We're going to look at flights.

Roback question.

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Whoever's up in the series, I'm going to start rooting for hard.

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If the Panthers win, it's going to be all Panthers.

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Hank, do you have a golf question for Witt?

No, I mean,

I'm working with PFT.

You obviously have a lot of experience dealing with sandbaggers.

My goal with PFT for the Internet Invitational is

for people to be mad at him sandbagging.

What are some signs of a good sandbagger?

Are you okay?

He saw Billy Strings this weekend.

We had a long weekend.

He had the boys in town.

He had a good time.

How's your Saturday with you?

Fucked.

Sleep at night.

Jesus Christ.

What?

Listen,

we only get two and a half months of summer in Chicago.

He's living it up.

What's a

sign of a sandbagger?

Fuck, that's tough.

I mean,

sandbaggers are just like,

you could,

I actually think I can tell a sandbagger when you tell me you're handicapped and then I watch you on the range.

Really?

Yeah, like, unless you're the worst putter of all time and you like three and four putt every hole.

Like, if you, you could tell somebody, oh, I'm a 13 handicap, and then on the range, you're like, ah,

I don't don't know.

He's hitting it like 260, 270.

You know, he's taking divots with his irons.

There's different signs where you know.

But when you say you're like a seven handicap, that's hard to tell because sevens actually can be very, very good and then be very, very bad.

Have you ever gotten, has anyone sandbagged you where you were like actually mad about it?

Oh, yeah, for sure.

But like now, like, so I have three, I have three boys now, so I don't play as much golf.

So my handicap's gone up because I'm not really good anymore, but I was good.

But it was funny, I got down to a scratch, but I was a bad scratch.

But now I'm a 3.3 or 3.2, and I'm a pretty good 3.2.

So I'm like, wow, this is, you know, you know what I mean by that?

Yeah.

Like, I rarely ever played to a scratch, even though that was my handicap, because I just post every score, and the handicap works based on they take the eight best of your most recent 20 scores.

So it's like, all right, like I had eight good rounds in the last 20 rounds, but the other 12 I was fucking horrible.

So my handicap is way better than I actually am.

Right.

So I think that when you do, like, now I bet you there's like, I had a buddy who's like, dude, you're a three now.

It's like, well, buddy, I'm posting every score.

I'm shooting 81 all the time.

So I don't know what you want me to tell you.

But then that day I shot 74.

So

it's very like calling someone a sandbagger is it's a kind of you know you don't want to be known as that.

No.

Like that's that's an ugly thing, especially because I play in a lot of like big money matches.

So you really can't like you're just you can't do that.

Like you're a dirtbag.

You know what I mean?

So how do you become a sandbagger?

Is that if you go out

on purpose?

Yes.

Or what they'll what they'll do, they don't post scores, which now like our club, like if you don't post the score, like you're getting an email, like post your score, like just to kind of combat this stuff.

But then, what happened, what happens is also, all right, you'll be playing two on two against somebody, and your partner's in the hole.

Like, your partner has like five feet for Birdie, right?

And you have 20 feet for par.

Well, I'll just three-putt this one because it doesn't matter, because my partner already has our score for this hole.

Then I get a double on this hole or a triple.

So, like, true sandbaggers, they're deranged because every little move they make is based on how to make sure their handicap never goes down.

Is there a reverse sandbagger?

Like, can I

I'm a 20, but I'm actually a 40.

So when I was a zero index, people are like, oh, he's a reverse bagger.

And once again, it's like, I'm posting every score.

I know I'm not a true scratch golfer.

So the reverse baggers,

they're the water cooler guys.

They want to, hey, you play golf?

Yeah, I play golf.

What's your handicap?

I'm a one.

Yeah, right.

It's like, dude.

But every reverse bagger, what happens?

See, reverse bagging is way better than sandbagging, though, because you're going to lose money as a reverse bagger.

Correct.

Right?

And so, reverse baggers, it's like you meet it, you know, a reverse bagger, and you're like, Hey, want to play a money match this week, bud?

Next week.

Hey, want to play you because you're and you just don't want him as your partner.

I might become a reverse bagger.

I might just start posting fake scores and have myself as a scratch golfer.

You could post around every day of you shooting four under, and you'd be a scratch in a week or a month.

I'm really just like a 35.

You're plus handbags.

People would love to golf with me.

There's a good Twitter follow.

I don't know his name, but because it pops up on the algorithm.

He is hunting down the biggest sandbaggers in the country.

Is it Yip Strickland?

Yeah, Yips Strickler.

Dan, it's so funny.

And he gets the guy's pictures, and then all of a sudden he's like, meet Greg.

Greg is a 13.4 index, and this weekend, his member guest shot 75 every round.

That's amazing.

I'm not going to do any of the sandbags.

I am going to play more golf and just log as many rounds as I can.

But, like, if I'm playing, and obviously it would be beneficial to me if my handicap was higher, but I'm not going to fuck with it.

I'm going to put it in the screen.

Just post every score.

And then put it on the camera, too.

We're going to film most of it so that people can go back and they can look.

Do I take gimmis?

If somebody concedes like a six-foot putt, do I just pick that up?

And I'm like, okay, I guess that's good.

So, in like certain matches, if you have a putt that's going to show the guy putting for Birdie on your team a line, like they'll give it to you, but

that's kind of up to you.

A lot of reverse baggers, what they do is like they take every, you know,

your score doesn't matter anymore.

You got 10 feet.

Hey, dude, you're good.

Like, I would then put it after because I want to know my real score.

A lot of people pick those up and then they end up a one handicap.

It's like, well, dude,

you picked up five, 10 footers that round.

Yeah.

This is so funny.

I'm following them right now.

I just started following them.

This is awesome.

I watched it.

He's just going after everyone.

He's finding them.

I watched a great YouTube video the other day.

What's the name of that guy that wears like the glasses and the funny bucket hat all the time?

He's some like Australian guy, but he basically teaches you how to break 100 just by making every par four actually a par five

and every par five is really a par seven.

And he's like, if you just change these numbers around, then you can break a hundred.

And then you watch that, you're like, oh shit, yeah, it's actually easy to do.

If you don't three-putt and you don't take penalty shots, so like don't hit it in the water.

I do both of those things.

Well, I know.

And it's like people say don't do that and you'll break 100, your score will drop by crazy amounts.

It's so much easier said than done.

But three putting is nuts.

And then if you want to get good at golf, number one, I'd say is get good from 100 yards and in because then all your bad drop.

All right.

So if you could, if you could pretty much most of the time from 100 yards and in, get in the hole in three shots,

you know, like you're gonna, your scores are gonna get lower so much quicker.

And then when you hit the bad drives, all right, I'll punch it out and then I'll hopefully hit it on.

And two putt, it's just golf's fucked, though.

Golf's the hardest sport in the world.

It drives you insane.

Just when you think you got it, you stink.

Just when you think you'll never be good again, you're good again.

It's just nuts.

You drive it good, you can't put.

You putt it great, you can't drive it.

Very rarely does it all come together.

My mental game has gotten, I think, stronger where I used to get so mad, and now it's like I'm more enjoying just being out there.

I used to play, guys, I was playing

when I started playing golf, I was playing at least eight rounds a week.

So one day would be 30.

Yeah.

What a legend.

I was still playing.

I was playing for Anaheim.

So 2009, 10, I started playing.

And I was like a 15, and I would play

36 one day, if not two, and every other day, minimum 18, sometimes 27.

And

for like nine years, guys, I did that.

That's incredible.

Would you have time to do that like in the league as an actor?

No, well,

I was never in the playoffs after Pittsburgh.

And then I would just come, I'd be home by, you know, end of April, and I'd leave for camp September 10th.

And every day, I had no kids, no wife.

Guys, I was obsessed, obsessed, like insanely obsessed with golf.

It was crazy.

I still am, but it's just life's life's changed, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, Wait, you're the best.

All right, guys.

Hopefully,

yeah, game seven.

Game seven.

We'll see you at Ryder Cup either way.

So, game seven.

No, no, no, no.

I'll see you at game seven.

Yeah.

Somewhere I need this to end in six.

All right, guys.

All right, see ya.

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We alluded to this earlier, but there was a story: Runaway zebra recaptured in Tennessee County.

Ed.

Ed.

And

he got

helicopter lifted.

He got airlifted out, yeah.

I don't.

So I wish Ed probably had the best week of his life.

Yeah, I mean, he was weak.

He was probably super.

He was gone for a week.

He was gone for six days.

Oh, I'm pulling it up.

He was probably super confused when he was getting airlifted.

Yes.

Absolutely.

Because they had him sitting upright like he was in a chair.

All right.

So

the search for a runaway pet zebra that had evaded capture for nearly a week in Rutherford County, County, Tennessee came to an end.

The Rutherford County Sheriff's Office, which had been searching for the animal that residents named Ed, said in a statement on Sunday that the zebra had been recaptured, returned to its owner.

So I guess

he got the owner of the zebra, whose identity has not been released, got the animal on May 30th.

What?

He had it for less than a day before it escaped the next morning?

That guy wasn't ready to get a zebra.

I don't even think that counts as having a zebra.

No.

If you have it for one day, how the zebra escaped or why the man owned it was still not immediately clear, but dispatchers received a report on May 31st that a zebra had been spotted darting in traffic on Interstate 24.

This is the first zebra to escape in Rutherford County, as far as I know, in the 43 years I lived here,

a woman said, a spokeswoman for the sheriff's office.

That's awesome.

What if it had gotten out and run across the border to Kentucky?

and seen like a thoroughbred

horse farm.

Yeah.

And just been like, let's bang.

And then they made the fastest horse ever.

That would be so.

I'm guessing the reason the zebra escaped, I'm going to go out on limb and say the zebra, as a rookie zebra owner, the fences were too short.

Yeah, or maybe no fences.

Maybe no fences.

Because if he escaped in a day, it might not have been fences.

Yeah, I just put like a collar on him.

Yeah.

This guy, Ed, though, he should have been.

He had an all.

Oh, shit.

There he is running on the side of the highway.

It's pretty cool.

That is awesome.

Oh, no.

Oh, he tripped.

Oh, Oh, Ed, not good with your feet, bro.

Oh, he's just like, he's just cruising through a neighborhood.

Suburbs.

That's awesome.

Good for Ed.

Yeah, Ed had a great time.

Let Ed back free.

Let Ed just be the zebra of Tennessee.

A free Ed.

Do you remember that story about the Ohio Zookeeper that offed himself, but before he offed himself, he let all of his animals out?

Yeah.

That was fucked up.

They killed all the animals.

They had to shoot all the animals.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, we want Ed to get back to being somewhere.

Don't let him.

Don't return him to this guy.

Why did they put him in...

Like, why did they airlift him?

Why didn't they just tranquilize him and put him in the back of a trailer?

I think they probably met him and was like, Ed is a cool ass dude.

We want to give him a nice ride.

I think if you have a horse harness for a helicopter, you have to use it at some point.

Yeah.

Some guy already had that and was like, we got to bust it out.

Are you allowed to have a pet zebra?

I don't see why not.

Right, it's not like.

They're not endangered.

Yeah, they just look cool.

And yeah, it's probably no different than having a horse, except for the fact that they're zebras.

Yeah, why can't you have a

They go 40 miles per hour.

Good for zebras.

So horses are faster.

All right.

Fastest recorded zebra, 43.97 miles.

Oh, no, that's fastest recorded horse.

But

they've never bred zebras to be fast.

They're all child.

Yeah, why can't zebras be like racehorses?

That's what I'm saying.

Like, why can't we just have zebras chilling?

Like, zebras are doing all this not even knowing that they're supposed to race.

Right.

So if we bred them to be, like, thoroughbred horses.

What a story that would be if a zebra was competing for the Triple Crown.

That would be a great movie.

It would be a great movie.

By the way, that would be a great movie.

The Triple Crown just is ruined.

I mean, Sovereignty winning the Belmont,

which should have been him winning the Triple Crown and having it go again, journalism for Sovereignty.

It just sucked.

I was pissed.

I watched it.

I lost.

Maybe if I'd won money on it, I would have been happier.

But

yeah, they ruined the Triple Crown.

Yeah.

All right, before we do numbers, Zach,

pub stomping this weekend.

How'd it go?

The pub stomp didn't go great, man.

So I started off Diamond 2, which is like a decent in the rank.

Not GM yet, Diamond 2.

We're all the way back down into Platt, losing about 20 points a game.

What's GM?

Grandmaster would be...

It's a second.

So you have a...

You got bronze, silver, gold, platt, diamond, grandmaster, celestial, which is like the ranking system.

So I started off decently in Diamond.

Now we're back in Platt.

It's not going good.

The team-ups are overpowered.

Last night was playing with my friend Hunter.

We lost probably about six straight, and then he goes to play a game without me, and he wins just because of the Sharknado.

So, like.

Wait, he had the Sharknado on his side?

He had it on his team, yeah.

So he's like becoming everything that he hates.

Everything he hates, yeah.

Yeah.

Did you get mad at him for winning with that?

No, I double-tapped the message.

I was like, glad to see you get a win at the end, but you don't want to win like that.

Yeah, right.

You want to beat them at their best, and that's not

cheating in the game.

Have you heard from anybody at the video game company?

Not at all.

No, nobody from the video game company.

I've heard from quite a few people letting me know they would smurf with me, like some hitters, some heavy hitters in the game.

Oh, come on, Zach.

That just feels dirty.

But maybe just to feel it once.

Like a taste, you think?

Yeah, just a taste.

Yeah, there are some hitters.

Let an AWL

smurf for you.

I just might.

I didn't do it, but I thought about it.

Yeah.

Because they were sending some stats over.

I was like, like, oh, these guys become what you hate, though.

Yeah, yeah, but just for a taste.

I haven't done it.

He's the devil on your shoulder.

Hank's the angel.

Don't do it.

I haven't done it yet.

Okay.

Some of those stat lines look enticing, though.

Some of the boys are absolutely.

Swerving is like heroin.

Someone hits you up and was like, look at my numbers, and they were cooked.

They were sent out in stat sheets.

And they were, maybe not Celestia, but they were like that in Grandmaster.

Oh, they were like that.

Some of the boys, yeah.

What about your mom?

Did she listen on Friday?

Thankfully, no.

Okay.

So we're good.

All right.

So that's good.

How much fast food do you have this weekend?

Not that much fast food.

I did pizza doesn't count.

Nope.

Again.

I agree.

Takes a while.

Just snacks at the house on today, too.

That was it.

So no fast food.

No fast food.

Are you saying this?

Wait, wouldn't your mom might be listening?

What did you have for dinner Friday?

No.

Sausage pizza, I think, was Friday.

And Saturday, Saturday?

No, Friday was leftover spaghetti and meatballs.

Okay.

Saturday was sausage pizza.

Saturday was sausage pizza.

And then today I just did like some lunchables and corn dogs.

No fast food.

A corndock's.

Yeah, I did a lot of walking today.

So then I got home, just ripped a lunchable and some corn dogs.

Yeah, Zach told me, I said, did you go outside this weekend?

And he said, yeah, I did a little urban hiking.

And I was like, oh, where'd you go?

He said, to the Target.

Yeah, there you go.

Yeah.

Mile down, mile back.

Not too bad.

Yeah.

That's nice.

What'd you pick up?

Ice cream cones.

There we go.

Wait, then you walked a mile mile back with the ice cream cones?

Yeah, were they melting when you got back?

No, no, no, no, not at all.

But uh, I will say, walking with those uh wait, no, no, you got the empty ice cream cones.

There was no ice cream in them, yeah.

Oh, my bad, yeah.

Yep, yeah, empty ice cream cones.

No, that's on me, yeah, yeah.

It's my fault.

No, I was melting, I was sweating.

It's my fault.

Uh, all right, good show, boys.

Uh, Wednesday, we got Tarek Scoobel and maybe a mystery guest.

Uh, let's do numbers three.

I think I got that one.

I think that was Hank

Puck

Memes.

He's calling it for memes.

What?

Memes, you have to give PFT and Hank numbers, though.

Give them numbers they can pick.

Pick numbers for them.

Because it was that close.

No, I think I got it.

No.

No, you got it.

You got it.

But just

give Hank.

I don't like this.

I don't like that.

Give Hank and PFT numbers.

Hank will get 52.

PFT 69.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

Love it.

That would be tough.

Yeah.

That would be real tough.

Either of a guy.

He's also memes.

The pressure's turning up for memes because Zach getting it would ruin him.

Or Jack.

No,

I like Zach.

He'd get it.

Yeah.

All right.

Who else?

What do we got?

I'm going to go 43.

Happy Pride.

Can we do a quote card of that?

Memes saying...

Do 88.

Zach could get it.

Yeah.

Shows up.

99 posts.

Shows up wearing some of these.

12.

Comeboy's going to get it.

That might be my favorite internet video of all time.

Comeboy's going to get it.

I'm going to put it on it.

Six.

Oh.

Six.

Beeves.

Did you get six last time?

Yeah.

Oh, no.

That's my backup number.

Oh, your backup?

So, like, if Hank had gotten what I went on too.

So wait, so if Hank had gotten three, you would have taken six.

Would you have taken six?

You would have taken six?

Oh, man.

I'm pretty sure I beat you, too.

That's on Pug.

Oh, that's not.

That's a side deal you guys got going on.

Backfired.

That's brutal, memes.

The vibes just felt like memes got it.

Yeah, but do you realize that that ruling, he would have gotten it?

I mean, this is his first choice, right?

Yeah, I know, but if you had said Hank, which I think Hank actually did, like, when we listen back, it's going to probably show that Hank had his mic spike.

And then, if Hank gets it, which would have been the correct call by you, Pug, Memes guesses six, and the number is six.

Memes would have gotten.

What a moment that would have been.

Oh, man.

This is your fault.

It's my bad, dude.

My bad.

Oh, memes is going to kill Pug because it is

two times by Pug.

It is two times.

You want to go one more time, Memes?

It's a pattern.

It's a pattern.

Memes, you want to go one more time?

No, I'm not going to get it.

Yeah, you can.

You can get it right now.

Numbers.

Six.

76.

44.

All right, I have six.

See, I'll take 69.

Okay.

99, Pug.

34.

All right, come on, 34.

21.

Oh!

66.

Oh, I thought that was 99 Pog.

Oh my god, I thought that was 69.

Oh, that's been 99.

Pog, that would have been so good.

Oh, so good.

You're never gonna get it,

you would never.

Love you guys.