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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have

Speaker 1 three-time NBA champion Dwayne Wade in studio. Awesome interview with D.
Wade. Really, really fun to talk to him.
We're going to talk some playoffs. The Thunder are a wagon.
The Panthers are a wagon.

Speaker 1 The Pacers and Knicks Knicks played one of the most exciting playoff games, maybe ever. We'll talk to memes about that.

Speaker 1 R.I.P. G.
Merce, we're going to talk about that. The tush-push doesn't get banned.
And then we are going to finish up with Firefest with our good friend Oldie, who is back in the booth

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, May 23rd, and the Oklahoma City Thunder are NBA champions.

Speaker 2 Thunder.

Speaker 2 Thunder.

Speaker 2 It was cool.

Speaker 1 Do I still have that ticket?

Speaker 4 I cannot wait for this concept.

Speaker 9 I gave it to Pug.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And he gave it to someone.

Speaker 10 And then it was given again. I think the Donnies are both going.
Oh, hell yes.

Speaker 1 Whenever you get both Donnies involved, it's a great time. It's rare.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The Thunder are really fucking good.

Speaker 10 They're really, really good. And yeah, we laid into SGA a little bit on the last podcast.
I still stand by the take that. I don't like watching him when he's foul baiting, but he is a great player.

Speaker 10 He did less of the foul baiting tonight.

Speaker 1 Well, he won the MVP too. That happens thanks to Shams for spoiling it.

Speaker 4 Bullshit that they announced it when the two MVPs were in the playoff series prior.

Speaker 10 You think that they should have done it when it was like last series?

Speaker 1 He's saying they should have done it during that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think there was a famous one. I think it might have been.

Speaker 4 Dirk Nowitzki.

Speaker 1 No, that was after he got bounced.

Speaker 1 Dirk got it in the second round after they got bounced by the Warriors. I want to say it was like a David Robinson Hakeem.
They announced it during

Speaker 2 the actual

Speaker 1 series.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I agree with you. They should have done it.

Speaker 1 They should have done it before game seven.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they should have. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would have been sick.

Speaker 10 This was a great game by SGA. There's no doubt about it.
I still get pissed off when he embellishes. I think the Timberwolves are at their wits' end with it, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was a little bit of that tonight.

Speaker 10 But he also, like, if you take that aside, he played a great game tonight.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, he's awesome.

Speaker 1 He had 38 points. He was dominant in, I mean, the first half, he missed like two or three shots.

Speaker 1 He's really goddamn good. And I wonder the question that I have for you guys, is Paul George an all-time Oklahoma City Thunder player? Because, of course, Paul George got them SGA

Speaker 10 and 1,000 picks. I would say yes.

Speaker 1 Which I will say in

Speaker 1 defense of Clippers fans, they probably don't need defense. A lot of people are doing the like, can you believe this trade? SGA was not,

Speaker 1 no one thought he was going to be an MVP when they got traded. And Paul George was very, very good at the time.
Right. Still a crazy trade looking back at it.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Paul George got them SGA and a lot of picks. And now the Thunder look like the far and away best team in the NBA.
They

Speaker 1 suffocate you on defense. Anthony Edwards had a pretty nice night, and it still didn't matter.
They're just that much better. And they, I don't know what to say.

Speaker 1 Like, they're just so much better than everyone in the team.

Speaker 1 And they can hold a lead yeah they can they're a very tough team to come back on they just they they get out in transition so fast oh every turnover is yeah it's unreal like they score before the defense even has a chance to fully get behind half court and crazy and all they do is turn you over this was another game where i i think the the timberwolves had 14 turnovers the the thunder had six gotta win the turnover battle gotta do it and uh it doesn't matter because they're just that good and uh yeah i i don't really you can't even we can't even be like, hey, t-shirt guy, put your t-shirt on.

Speaker 1 They just keep winning when he doesn't have a t-shirt on.

Speaker 10 I got one thing to just bring to light. National Sports Podcast.
Yep. They've got the best super fan in the world.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what Thunder do. They got two.

Speaker 10 Well, I'm talking about Thundor. Yes.

Speaker 1 Thundor is awesome, but also Brick Guy is awesome.

Speaker 10 Brick Guy's cool Thundor. So Thundor, he rocks.
He's oldie. He wears like a Mexican luchador hat, and he takes his shirt off.
He paints his chest.

Speaker 1 He looks like oldie.

Speaker 10 He is the absolute best. I looked up some information about him.
His name's Garrett. He's a social worker, and he changes on the way to games in a gas station bathroom.
I love that.

Speaker 10 And this dude is the best. We got to get him off.
Huge home field advantage, home court advantage. Yeah, there's Thundor right there.

Speaker 11 We got to get him off.

Speaker 6 Big boy.

Speaker 1 Thundor. Someone get us a Thundor.

Speaker 2 He figure it out.

Speaker 10 He lets out. Whoops.

Speaker 2 He needs an APAC.

Speaker 10 During Foul Shots. Yeah.

Speaker 10 His claim to fame is he was the first person to call Chris Kamen Chris Caveman when he was shooting foul shots. And I read an article.
They did an interview with him a while ago.

Speaker 10 This is like maybe 10 years ago. He said, as a bigger guy, I grew up always wanting to swim with my shirt on.

Speaker 10 As goofy as I might be and how outrageous my antics might be, deep down, I like to promote body positivity and feeling confident in yourself.

Speaker 10 If I can take the thing that I'm most uncomfortable with and make that something that can entertain others or be a distraction for free throw shooters, then I took a negative into a positive.

Speaker 2 I love this guy. Thundor rocks.

Speaker 10 Thundor is the man.

Speaker 2 I would like to have him on PMT.

Speaker 10 You know, it's a blowout when Thundor takes the mask off and he just enjoys the rest of the game. My job is done here.
Yeah, I don't know if he did that tonight, but he has done that.

Speaker 10 I think in that Nuggets blowout that they had in game two, I think he just was like, Thundor, my work here is done. Yeah.
And he went back into Clark Kent for the rest of the game today.

Speaker 1 My watch has ended. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 But this guy rocks. I love Thundor.

Speaker 1 And it, yeah, I don't even know. I mean, we'll see what happens when they...
So we're, obviously, it's Memorial Day weekend, so next we will talk to people.

Speaker 1 There'll be two more games that go on because we'll be back on. We're going to do Tuesday, Friday next week.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, there's still a series.

Speaker 10 I think that the Timber Wolves are going to figure out how to win one or maybe two at home. I think they'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Game three, they got to win game three.

Speaker 12 I don't know how.

Speaker 2 Must win.

Speaker 10 I don't know how, but I don't see the Wolves getting swept.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, you would hope that like

Speaker 1 Nas Reed's got to hit a three eventually. I think he's 0 for 12 in the series.
Yeah. He's got to hit hit a 3.

Speaker 1 And Julius Randle didn't play in the fourth quarter. He had a bad game, which that is ⁇ because he has been incredible all playoffs.

Speaker 1 Even last game when he started, I think he had 20 points in the first half. Him having only six points and not playing in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he was injured or anything, but he - that's bad.

Speaker 10 That's a bad sign. I don't think that you can make the case that...

Speaker 10 You might get a friendlier whistle at home because I believe that tonight the foul shooting even favored the Timberwolves.

Speaker 1 Yeah, shout out to to Scott Foster.

Speaker 12 Yeah. Playing banged up, got hit in the nose.

Speaker 10 Did he have a tamp on his nose?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did. He put a tamp on his nose.
Love that. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was a big one. Did you guys also see?

Speaker 10 In the second period, right?

Speaker 11 Yeah, it was the second period.

Speaker 1 Did you see that Perk was there? Perk's going through some stuff right now. The picture of Kendrick Perkins standing next to Stephen A.
Smith that went viral.

Speaker 10 Parallax angle.

Speaker 1 That was tough. Also, Perk is doing some weird stuff where he

Speaker 1 was like Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook never got out of the second round until I showed up. Fact.
And

Speaker 1 Kevin Durant quote you and just said, you the real MVP.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 And he also had, I think it was last week, he said he would have locked down Jokic, and then they just played

Speaker 2 footage of like baby Jokic just like fucking him up.

Speaker 10 And the Celtics is like, you know, it's a

Speaker 4 family

Speaker 4 team, and he's like on the like not allowed in.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 1 yeah what why because he was like leading the charge against getting rid of Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum a couple years ago he's doing his job as a journalist but what what happened was he was at the game and they announced and they announced him so he's gotten all of his former teams none of them yeah well he did get a standing ovation tonight oh nice yeah I think the people love him yeah he got a standing ovation night

Speaker 10 he he has to know when he says stuff like that like it's a little bit tongue-in-cheek right I don't know I don't know I think he's I think he's suffering from the fact that like all

Speaker 1 of the games and box scores that he played in are readily available yeah that is you know what i mean like he would do a lot better it's giving off big like oh yeah my summer camp girlfriend she's actually from canada if she if he was a uh like a folk hero yeah like back in the day like yeah big perk yeah big perk uh men used to cry instead of going to the lane against big perk yeah if he was if he was a boxer from like 1915 yeah we would be oh my god the best ever but so back to the standing ovation you got a standing ovation.

Speaker 1 Now, I don't know what the timing was with this, but it was a little weird because they only showed one highlight and it was just a repeat highlight of different angles of a single donkey at.

Speaker 2 That's awesome.

Speaker 1 I don't know what happened there, but here I'll send it to you.

Speaker 10 I think you also might have misquoted him a little bit because you didn't say carry the hell on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 11 That's true. He,

Speaker 1 yeah, Perk. He's going through it right now.
But the Thunder, they're just, they're better than everyone. I don't really know what to say.
It's like...

Speaker 10 I got a question about the Thunder and their roster. Guy for guy, if you put him up against the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 9 Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 They're not in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 Who are we taking here?

Speaker 2 Guy for guy.

Speaker 4 The Thunder are still playing, so you got, I mean, the Thunder are stacked. Yeah.
Top to bottom. Top to bottom.

Speaker 1 And what's crazy about the Thunder, and I know that this is getting ahead of ourselves because they haven't won the title. Here's the highlight if you guys want to see it.
It's pretty sick.

Speaker 1 This is Kendrick Perkins and his career at OKC, and that's a dunk.

Speaker 2 Yeah, hell yeah, it is. And then

Speaker 1 there's the same dunk from a different angle.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was a good dunk.

Speaker 1 That was a great dunk.

Speaker 1 I don't want to get ahead of ourselves. There's still some basketball to be played.
Anything could happen.

Speaker 1 The craziest thing about the Thunder is like, they're so young, and they have so much,

Speaker 1 like, so many draft picks.

Speaker 1 They have, like, like i was saying the other night like chet holmgren is just going to get better he's he's already very good yeah he was good again tonight and he's going to keep getting better yeah you could make the case that this might be the worst thunder team that we're going to see in the next five years i like that i like that yeah you could make that case if the thunder can win with this roster yeah imagine what they're going to do yeah it's a good case to make should we start that discussion yeah will this be the worst thunder championship in their dynasty era no this is an off year the thunder fans are going to be so bad this is this is like if you look look at it, this is an off year for the Thunder.

Speaker 10 And the fact that they're doing this is super.

Speaker 1 We're going to look back and be like, dude, they fucking won with this team?

Speaker 10 Yeah, and listen, I like the Thunder. I think they're a great team.
I think that they're entertained. I love Caruso.
I think you feel the same way.

Speaker 2 I love Caruso.

Speaker 1 I love Lou Dorts, who, by the way, I don't know if you guys knew this fact. I found out yesterday.

Speaker 1 Lou Dort name is Lugan Stort.

Speaker 1 His father's name is Lufran Stort. I like that.
Literally the same name, just a G, an F instead of a G.

Speaker 2 I fucking love it.

Speaker 10 Yeah, but I think that

Speaker 10 if we do nitpick at SGA, it's because there's literally our only complaint about the Thunder is that your star player is too good at gaming the rules.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 And you're mowing everybody. Like, I might be an SG atheist.
Yes, I am. But that doesn't mean that I can't appreciate Alex Caruso.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I agree with that, and they're a really good team. You can't take anything, like, what they've done in the playoffs so far, because I know obviously they went to seven with the Nuggets.

Speaker 1 That's credit to the Nuggets, But

Speaker 1 even in that series, they had a couple blowouts. Like it just feels like when they beat these teams, they're just killing them.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Killing them.

Speaker 2 This game was a close game again.

Speaker 1 And then it was just, oh, the Thunder are going to do their thing.

Speaker 1 Their defense is just so good. And their offense can go through a little bit of lulls every now and then, but it doesn't matter because their defense is that good.

Speaker 10 I think we have to just fast forward the entire conversation and say, are the Thunder bad for basketball? It could be.

Speaker 1 Are we going to have to make Sam Presty rule? I mean,

Speaker 1 he's built such a great team.

Speaker 10 Sam Presty, the asset king. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's just swimming in assets.

Speaker 10 Eating assets.

Speaker 1 Should we talk about the other game? I think we should.

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Speaker 1 Okay, uh,

Speaker 1 NYX Pacers.

Speaker 1 This This was one of

Speaker 1 the more shocking, craziest, awesome. I don't really know what other superlative to use games that I've watched.
It was insane. And the Pacers,

Speaker 1 I think we can all agree, it's not a fluke. It's not like a coincidence this keeps happening.
This is the third time they've done this thing.

Speaker 1 This was the most extreme one, but the third time they've done this in these playoffs. In the Bucs series, they were down seven with 40 seconds left.

Speaker 1 In the Cavs series, they were down five with 30 seconds left. In this game, they were down eight with 40 seconds left.
They were down 14

Speaker 1 with 250 left. And the stat goes that all time, teams that are up 14 with under three minutes to play were 977 and 0.

Speaker 1 And now

Speaker 1 the one is the Pacers and what they did. And it's crazy.
It was insane.

Speaker 10 I've seen so many different

Speaker 10 versions of that same stat where you can even back it up to three minutes, four minutes, five minutes. They're all the same where it's like they were 0 for 1,414.

Speaker 10 Now they're one for 1,415 in this circumstance. Crazy.
And yeah, you're right. The Pacers,

Speaker 10 they've proven that this is what they do.

Speaker 1 They don't run out of gas. They're better conditioned than every other team.

Speaker 10 Yeah, and they've got guys that can hit three-pointers that can heat up. And it's not like they're shutting teams down.
Like, the Knicks still scored points.

Speaker 1 So the discussion that I think was thrown out there.

Speaker 10 Like six points in the last two minutes?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the discussion that was thrown out there, because obviously Tyrese Halliburton hits that shot, incredible shot, toe on the line, but still like such an insane shot for it to bounce that high.

Speaker 1 And he does the Reggie Miller choke, which was... A ballsy move because he, well, he didn't know at the time that he thought he had won the game.

Speaker 2 I'm okay with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, I'm fine with it too.

Speaker 2 Aura.

Speaker 2 You agree? Yeah. What about the laced up Tim's? Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 10 Halliburton just, he may have just made the quickest transition from no aura to massive amount of aura this postseason.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I don't think the Knicks choked as much as

Speaker 1 they choked a little bit.

Speaker 2 They were making shots.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they missed some free throws. And obviously there was the goaltending that everyone's going to talk about.
And over time, I get it.

Speaker 1 Like, to say the Knicks choke, though, does a disservice to Aaron Neesmith going into God mode. That was God mode.
What he did in those three minutes or whatever it was, maybe a little more,

Speaker 1 was insane. Five for five from three.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it was nuts. Aaron Neesmith paced her for life, right? Insane.
Didn't play for anybody else? I mean, that was. Wait, did he play for somebody else?

Speaker 1 Aaron Neesmith?

Speaker 10 Yeah, who'd he play for, Hank?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 1 did he play for the Celsius or the Celtic?

Speaker 10 The Texas draft. Oh, nuts.

Speaker 2 That's wild. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 That was so impressive.

Speaker 1 God-mode. Yeah.
Like, I don't really know what else.

Speaker 1 I don't think you can say in the zone because

Speaker 1 it was more of a

Speaker 1 crunched time frame, and it was perfect.

Speaker 10 He was above the zone.

Speaker 11 It was God-mode.

Speaker 10 Yeah, so I think that the Knicks did kind of choke it a little bit, though.

Speaker 10 And that's not taking anything away from what the Pacers did because the Pacers were obviously great in those last three minutes. But

Speaker 10 Jalen Brunson's a great player. Love watching him play.

Speaker 2 Dog.

Speaker 10 He looked super shaky in the fourth quarter, whether it was inbounding the ball, whether it was bringing the ball up the court. He looked scared.
And there were a few times when he turned it over.

Speaker 10 There were even more times when he should have turned it over and lucked out. He got very, very shaky in the fourth quarter.
I don't think I'm telling tales out of school with that one.

Speaker 10 Memes, would you agree with that?

Speaker 15 I think the one inbound play, and then he threw it up to Josh Hart, was a shaky one.

Speaker 10 I think he had several of those in the fourth fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 Well, I think, I don't know about the shit, because what he ended up scoring 42. Yeah, he had a great game.
He had a great game.

Speaker 1 I think the crazier part for the Knicks is that when it was 10 minutes left in the game and it was 94-92 and Jalen Brunson gets his fifth foul, you're saying to yourself, oh, fuck, the Knicks are going to be in trouble here.

Speaker 1 And then the Knicks ripped off a 14-0 run, and you're like, oh, my God, Jalen Brunson's sitting on the bench, and we just went on a 14-0 run. And all of the, like you said, like you, you back it up.

Speaker 1 It's just like looking at all of the scores at different times is just insane. They were up, you know, 119, 105 with 250 left.
They were up seven points with a minute and 20 left.

Speaker 1 They were up, what was it, eight points with 40 seconds left? It just...

Speaker 1 It was an impossible comeback and they did it because Aaron Neesmith was insane.

Speaker 10 And when Halliburton hit that last shot in regulation, after the ball hit off the back iron and went like eight, nine feet up in the air, I don't know about you, but I was like, oh, that's going in.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that's going to fall in.

Speaker 1 I also was like, that was Jim Ursa.

Speaker 10 Yeah, he did. That was his last tweet.

Speaker 1 His last tweet, I did an Ursae legacy game on A Line.

Speaker 1 And we'll talk about him in a second. But that was, I just, the Pacers are so much fun.
They're so much fun to watch because they have just guys with big balls who make big shots.

Speaker 1 And Halliburton, Halliburton is so so good. And I know that he got voted overrated.

Speaker 2 He now is the most underrated.

Speaker 2 And we don't know what he's doing.

Speaker 4 He's so good that his peers hate him. Well, no.

Speaker 2 How good he is.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Kirk Goldsberry told us it was like five people

Speaker 2 that voted for him.

Speaker 1 Rachel knows 13 people. She said 13 total players.

Speaker 10 Yeah, voted him the most overrated. So it's really not that many people in the NBA, but they just didn't want to vote for anybody else because that's a fucked up award to give.

Speaker 4 The guys that got probably, he got this Olympic spot over them.

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah and i was watching a clip there was there was someone posted it uh it was it was like i've loved how burton from this moment and it was he was doing like a watch along for a i don't know if it was a playoff game or a uh nba league cup game and it was a highlight of uh jordan poo with like 10 seconds left chucking a three from like 35 feet and the other two people on the panel i think was taylor rooks and someone else they're like what how do you take that shot and haliburton's like i love that shot like, That was a great shot.

Speaker 1 He's wide open. He's like, I'm taking that shot in the playoffs next year.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's just what he is. He's just unafraid.
Like, the move to go into the paint like that and then come out and you knew he was going to take it.

Speaker 10 It was a stupid fucking shot, but it was crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
The whole thing was crazy. And it was.

Speaker 10 I saw people saying it was a double dribble. It was not a double dribble.
It got poked away.

Speaker 1 No, it got.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He got his hands were put on there.

Speaker 1 What were you going to do?

Speaker 2 What are you doing?

Speaker 4 I wanted to see if memes thought it was a double dribble.

Speaker 4 That's true saltiness.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so memes, let's talk about it.

Speaker 4 It was not a double dribble, but I saw a lot of people being like, how do they knock all this?

Speaker 10 But I would respect it if memes held firm and held the line and said, that's a double dribble.

Speaker 1 Memes, we did

Speaker 1 a review of your tweets last night. Good job.

Speaker 12 There was one that we noted, though.

Speaker 15 Where'd you guys review this?

Speaker 1 We were sitting in here.

Speaker 12 Yeah, we did an internal review.

Speaker 2 We did an internal review. Nice.

Speaker 10 It's part of our

Speaker 10 evaluation.

Speaker 4 We do that every Friday.

Speaker 1 We do it every Friday. We look through all your treats.
But

Speaker 1 you had it all.

Speaker 1 You had the choke. You had everything.
You were doing all caps. But the one that made us laugh was the choke picture was not all caps.
And it just said Hal Burton hit the choke on the tying basket.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I did.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Memes, you were an all-caps guy when something exciting happens. And when the Pacers were coming back, you said something like, The Pacers just won't die.

Speaker 2 Yeah, somebody was like, oh, Jim Ursa, don't say that.

Speaker 10 But I saw that one and I was like, that's just memes being angry that the Pacers won't die.

Speaker 10 I was in shock.

Speaker 12 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The Knicks are just cursed.

Speaker 15 Because, like, if OG makes that free throw and then Tyree steps on the line and gets a two, like, that's what somebody with good luck gets.

Speaker 15 Instead, it was like, over time, Ty, you don't get the goaltend.

Speaker 2 Now you just lose. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, how are you feeling? I mean, it's one game. That's the thing is, like, there was a lot of,

Speaker 1 it was a shocking game. Knicks fans were commiserating, which I understand,

Speaker 1 but it was just one game.

Speaker 1 You win on Friday night, and it's like, all right, let's go.

Speaker 15 Yeah, you win on Friday night, you're back. It's what, 10.50 right now? Like, this morning, I didn't leave the couch.

Speaker 15 It was probably the worst loss I've ever seen in my lifetime.

Speaker 15 But you win game two, you're back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the Knicks, like, if you want to go positive spin zone, the Knicks were the better basketball team for 56 minutes.

Speaker 1 57 minutes.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And no, no, no, not 57. I was doing NFL time.

Speaker 2 Wow, wow.

Speaker 1 We just did American Rejects at the, they played a private concert for us. It was sick.
We're going to have the lead singer on the show on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 They played the better game for

Speaker 1 45 minutes.

Speaker 15 Yeah, and then Nae Smith was just touched by God, and then he just couldn't fucking miss.

Speaker 2 I missed football.

Speaker 10 I was just going 60 Football is the absolute best sport in the entire world.

Speaker 10 So, memes, you stayed on your couch.

Speaker 11 60 minutes. You were angry.

Speaker 2 I stayed on the couch.

Speaker 10 You didn't move. Memes did text the group chat like four times.
What time are we recording? Let me know. Yeah.
Let me know what time we're recording.

Speaker 1 He's like, I want to get this over with and get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Yeah, pretty much. And

Speaker 15 I've just been here all day.

Speaker 2 You've been stealing.

Speaker 2 You've been stealing.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you don't handle losses well, but that's fine. I think that that's

Speaker 10 most people at this office don't handle losses.

Speaker 1 By the way, no nick fan should be judged for how they handled that loss because that loss was as gut-punching as you get now anything you said did acted in the like two hours after that game should be legally wiped from the record yeah i crashed out pretty hard in our uh production group chat oh no what did that look like can you read some of them uh

Speaker 1 no max is shaking his hand

Speaker 10 it was that hard of a crash out yeah it was pretty it was pretty bad did you apologize did you go after anyone no no no it always just ends up with me quitting somehow Oh, did you quit last night?

Speaker 4 If they don't let me know, I'm going to quit.

Speaker 14 He blamed Chicago for his tires.

Speaker 2 That's actually a valid point. What's that?

Speaker 10 I had to get three retires.

Speaker 2 That's fair.

Speaker 10 You retired three times?

Speaker 10 Three tires were placed yesterday.

Speaker 10 You retired three times yesterday. Yeah.
The loss was so bad.

Speaker 1 All right. So, and then what else was said in the

Speaker 15 weather. I blame the weather in Chicago.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Anything else?

Speaker 2 I mean, anything on hate?

Speaker 2 No, I played Shane.

Speaker 4 Imagine if we were at softball when that was happening.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What did you say to Shane?

Speaker 2 I was like, this is all Shane's fucking fault. Okay, go on.
Well, why?

Speaker 15 He sent me a picture that let me know he was doing something.

Speaker 2 Oh. Oh.

Speaker 10 Taking a shit? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 1 That is Shane's fault.

Speaker 2 I was like, I don't want to be thinking about this.

Speaker 1 It's just one game,

Speaker 1 but the Pacers are so much fun, and they're a scary, scary team because they don't, like, the fact that you just can't, memes, I'll tell you from

Speaker 4 experience, you can't blow game two.

Speaker 4 Win game two, or you're fine.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, you just can't blow another big lead in game two because then it's a pattern.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah, so I did see if you're a Knicks fan, I hope that you just avoided, like memes, you avoided all sorts of sports media, even if you work on a sports media podcast.

Speaker 10 But I saw a lot of shows today just straight up burying the Knicks, just saying the Knicks cannot come back from this.

Speaker 2 Which is bullshit. I don't think I disagree.
Yeah, it's bullshit.

Speaker 10 It's an overtime loss. The Pacers are a great team.
They will never die. You have to kill them seven times if you want to actually murder them.

Speaker 10 But to say that the series is over, I respect the boldness of the take.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also, like, the Knicks still, like, Cat was very good, and he's going to be a mismatch problem for the Pacers. Like, I, OG's been good.
Like,

Speaker 1 I think this will still be a series.

Speaker 10 Jalen Brunson's still incredible.

Speaker 1 That was a tough, a tough, tough loss. Did you see the new cat sound dropped?

Speaker 1 Let me get it to Max so he can play it for you guys. I fucking love Cat.
I need him mic'd up for every single game. He's so fucking funny.
But you got to keep your head up. It's one game.

Speaker 1 Win Friday night, and you're good to go.

Speaker 15 Yeah, you can't win at six if you don't lose two.

Speaker 1 That's true. You did predict it.

Speaker 11 Ready for this?

Speaker 1 This is Mitchell Robinson talking to Cat before the game.

Speaker 2 I'm here. Are you I NYC? Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm here. Are you I NYC?

Speaker 1 NYC.

Speaker 2 SEC.

Speaker 12 Are you in the Haliban?

Speaker 1 I am.

Speaker 1 I mean, I've been riding with the Pacers. Like I said, I had a money line on Wednesday night, which was the craziest win possible.

Speaker 10 I might be in Hal Qaeda.

Speaker 1 I've been in the Haliban and the Pacers

Speaker 1 this whole run. They're just fun.

Speaker 10 Yeah, they are.

Speaker 14 Sixers Twitter has been getting into it because

Speaker 14 there were rumors a while ago, like back when Ben Simmons was on the Sixers, that Daryl Morray turned down a Tyrese Halliburton.

Speaker 10 Oh, you get in there and you make it about you, Matt.

Speaker 2 And also,

Speaker 1 you don't have the best Tyrese in the NBA.

Speaker 2 Oh, no. No.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. It's also crazy because did you guys see there was a

Speaker 1 someone did all the draft picks for each team in the conference finals, and it's like the Pacers have built a team of not

Speaker 1 top three guys, and it's pretty damn impressive.

Speaker 2 It is.

Speaker 4 Naismith, great draft pick. Great draft pick.

Speaker 10 Na Smith, yeah. Brad Stevens? Yeah.
Trust the process.

Speaker 10 Why'd you get rid of the process?

Speaker 4 Brogdon, Malcolm Brogdon, who won six man of the year.

Speaker 4 At the time, you know, it was a good trade. Win-win.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But, I mean, you didn't know he had God mode.

Speaker 4 No, I mean, you know, it's been four years since that trade, but yeah, he's a great player.

Speaker 14 Great draft pick. You haven't really thought about him that much before

Speaker 14 this playoffs.

Speaker 2 Has anyone yet?

Speaker 10 I mean, God mode.

Speaker 2 That was crazy. It was God mode.
God mode.

Speaker 2 What, memes?

Speaker 15 I mean, it was so crazy. And then after the game,

Speaker 15 he was like, I'm just so good at shooting, I just let it fly.

Speaker 2 That's a great thing.

Speaker 15 I think a guy like that shouldn't be doing that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you...

Speaker 1 The Halliburton choke, it could have been a bad one. If they had lost in overtime, that would have been as bad as you get in terms of memes and everything going after him.

Speaker 10 I think that it's incredible that he was able to overcome what seemed like a jinxing choke that he made.

Speaker 10 He tried to will the meme into existence before they won the game. That feels like something that will come back to bite you, and he just overcame that in overtime.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But the Reggie Miller choke series, the Pacers lost.

Speaker 12 That's true. Yep, good point.

Speaker 1 Also, here's another stat. Just one last stat.

Speaker 2 This one's crazy.

Speaker 1 Since 1997 and 98, teams are 4 and 1,640

Speaker 1 when trailing by 7 plus in the final minute of the fourth quarter or OT in the playoffs. The Pacers account for three of those four wins.

Speaker 11 That is not. In these playoffs.
That is not.

Speaker 1 That's fucking insane.

Speaker 1 4 and 1,640, and they have 3 out of 4 in these playoffs. Crazy.

Speaker 10 How many points would you need to be up by, memes, in the final minute of the fourth quarter to feel comfortable?

Speaker 2 15.

Speaker 10 15. 15.

Speaker 2 That sounds like a challenge. That feels like a new pacer stat that's going to drop.
Yeah. You should have gone like 25.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dude, you know, like the stats that came out after this game

Speaker 1 were all so shocking. You don't want to make a new one.

Speaker 10 And I loved looking at all of them.

Speaker 1 They're mind-boggling. It's just 41,640.

Speaker 10 Crazy numbers.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Last thing on this game, I saw that Charles Barkley actually said this to Adam Silver, and we agree.

Speaker 1 It's time to get Tyrese Halberton's dad back in the States.

Speaker 10 I said that like two days after they banned him for the entire playoffs. Because you could see a way that this would unfold when it feels like the punishment is too heavy.

Speaker 10 Yeah, ban him for the rest of that first series. I get that.
Or I guess it would be the second series, the first two home games of the second series.

Speaker 10 Let the man's dad watch his son dominate in the NBA.

Speaker 1 Although him doing the clip of him at a bar doing the choke and having the towel and just going crazy was very funny but yeah let's get it back yeah i saw uh stavi threaten to to fight him he's like just let me fight his dad and then all is fair

Speaker 2 i think it's i think it's a fair compromise stavi wants that fight

Speaker 10 i think stavi wants the fight i don't know i don't think he wants to fight i don't think he wants to fight after he has the fight yeah uh all right uh talking about this game on friday night let's do uh

Speaker 1 first basket scores.

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Speaker 1 Pacers, Knicks.

Speaker 1 I need to catch up with Max, so I'll just go Halberd.

Speaker 2 All right, 11 to 1.

Speaker 2 11 to 1. What are you guys going to do?

Speaker 4 I'm going to take Aaron Naismith.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 4 8-1.

Speaker 2 Good one.

Speaker 1 Maybe God mode still?

Speaker 10 I'm going to go Siakum because I like saying Siakum.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 7.50.

Speaker 14 I'll just run it back with... Cat got me a win last week.
I'll run it back with Cat.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 10 Plus 475.

Speaker 1 Plus 475. And Max, you're in the lead for our competition?

Speaker 2 What are you getting margin?

Speaker 14 I think I'm up like

Speaker 14 around 1,000.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay, so you better not have Haliburt Hitman.

Speaker 14 No, Haliburt would be tough.

Speaker 2 I feel like that's way too.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing plus 950. Oh, I see

Speaker 1 plus 950. I was reading Josh Hart.
Plus 950. Yeah, my bad.
Plus 950.

Speaker 10 Good catch, Max. That is a good catch.

Speaker 14 I mean, that's a big difference.

Speaker 2 That's a big difference.

Speaker 1 That's a big difference. They're at the bottom.
I saw plus, I was reading it and didn't link the names.

Speaker 10 Plus 950. Max is able to pull up stats real fast.

Speaker 2 Real fast.

Speaker 14 We're all looking at it. Yeah,

Speaker 2 plus 950.

Speaker 1 You know what? Maybe I'll just parlay Halbert and Josh Hart. They'll share a first basket.

Speaker 14 That's cute. I don't even know what that means.
That's adorable.

Speaker 2 You can't do that.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Other things we got to talk about. Jim Ursa passed away.
Very sad. I was thinking about it, PFT.

Speaker 12 I think Jim Ursa

Speaker 1 is.

Speaker 1 The closest to how I would want to live my life if I was a billionaire. And he was the coolest for that.
He

Speaker 1 had a football team. I I know his dad bought the team, but he owned a football team.
He collected sick guitars.

Speaker 1 By all accounts, he would just hand people money and do really awesome things for people without having anyone say anything, like being like, hey,

Speaker 1 I don't want the publicity. He partied.

Speaker 9 Like, he was a...

Speaker 1 billionaire NFL owner who has many pictures of him like shirtless or has like stains on his shirt.

Speaker 11 He lived how you should live if you are a billionaire.

Speaker 10 Yeah, he was a dude. I I agree 100%.
This is exactly what I would do if I owned an NFL team. If I had that money, I would buy an NFL team.
I would smoke cigarettes on golf carts.

Speaker 10 I would give away a lot of money. I saw a clip of him a while back.
This was years ago, where he was at a Bills game and he was in the owner's suite at a Bills game.

Speaker 10 And he was like talking back and forth to some of the Bills fans that were in front of him, like just friendly banter type stuff. And then after the game was over, the Colts had won.

Speaker 10 He just starts autographing $100 bills and just handing them to everybody. He's like, thanks for tolerating this, guys.
I appreciate it. Here's some money.
Enjoy yourselves.

Speaker 10 He would walk around with stacks of $100 bills in the thousands and just give them away to people. He did a shitload for people in Indy.

Speaker 10 I know at the national level, what you know about Jim Ursa is probably limited to some of his demons.

Speaker 1 Yeah, some complicated things.

Speaker 10 Which is fine, but like this, I think it's actually good to point at this and say, If you're an addict, that doesn't mean that you're a bad person.

Speaker 10 No, and also, I don't think you, I think if you talk to anybody that like dealt with him, they loved him in Indy. He was eccentric.
Yeah, but guess what?

Speaker 10 I would probably be eccentric if I had that much money, too.

Speaker 10 He got rid of, I will never forget the fact that he is the first owner to have the balls to say fuck you to Dan Snyder when Snyder threatened to blackmail every other owner.

Speaker 10 And he goes, Yeah, try me because everything that I've done is out in the open. Yeah.
You're still a piece of shit, and we're going to do something about you.

Speaker 10 He had that guitar collection, which is the best guitar collection in the entire world. He had, I think, three guitars that were worth over a million, two of which were worth like $4 million.

Speaker 10 And he had this huge collection that he would take out on the road and just be like, hey, everybody, please just come look at all these pieces of American history that I have.

Speaker 10 And he was offered a billion dollars by, I think it was Dubai. They offered him a billion dollars to buy his collection.
And he said, no,

Speaker 10 I'm not going to sell it for that. I don't care about the money.
I just want to have it so that I can show people the collection that I have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I think the,

Speaker 1 you know, he, he obviously battled some addictions. Like he was a complicated guy, but guess what? Complicated people are more interesting in life.

Speaker 1 Like you can, there's, there's good and bad, but that's, that's kind of why I looked at him and like, he felt like one of the more human owners that we had in sports because he did have demons and things that happened, but he wore them all.

Speaker 1 And it was like, this is who he is. He's not perfect.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which I'd much rather that than someone be like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm perfect. Everything's perfect.

Speaker 10 Yeah. I mean, the man made several big mistakes in his life, but I don't think that that defines what he was.
Because, like, I never got to meet Jamercy.

Speaker 10 I would have loved to have met the guy and to interview him or just to like introduce myself.

Speaker 10 We never got the chance to do that, unfortunately. But he did send us the giant banner of the Colts AFC finalists.

Speaker 10 And he wrote, I think he wrote those lyrics that he sent over to us that said, like, it takes a good friend to tell you that you're pissing in the wind.

Speaker 10 Thanks for telling me I was pissing in the wind.

Speaker 4 He also undersold, like, when that happened, I remember PFT being like, hey, like,

Speaker 4 Jim Ursa said he's sending me something. Like, let's film it just in case.
It's probably nothing.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And it was

Speaker 9 the greatest thing.

Speaker 4 I think that's the greatest thing he could have ever given.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw Eric Burkhart had a thread today that I feel like summed up Jim Ursa.

Speaker 1 He told the story. He said, a brief Jim Ursa story that I believe is important to share.
Years ago, I had a Colts client player who unexpectedly lost a beloved family member. Mr.

Speaker 1 Ursay personally called me with the sincerest condolences for the entire family. Further, he offered to pay for the funeral, which we graciously dismissed.

Speaker 1 Days later, Jim's right-hand man called me, insisted that Mr. Ursay pay for the funeral.
His one condition was that it wasn't made public that he did this.

Speaker 1 And upon following through and assisting them in executing his amazing gesture, his guy told me in confidence, Jim Ursa does so many incredible things like this on his own and without credit.

Speaker 1 And last year alone, he paid for hundreds of funerals. And that's like, that's the coolest thing.

Speaker 2 People

Speaker 1 will make the argument about like, hey, charity, you got to, you got to talk about your charity so then you get more charity.

Speaker 1 Like Jim Ursa probably touched so many people's lives and did so many things for so many people that we have no idea about because he did not want credit and he did not want people to be like, oh, wow, Jim Ursa is the best.

Speaker 1 He just did it because he was a good guy.

Speaker 10 And he was loyal to his players. If you ask any of the players that played for him, I've seen so many of them say, like, yeah, this is a guy that loved football.

Speaker 10 He loved his football team, and we appreciate that about him. They enjoyed playing.
He let Andrew Luck keep his money, right? Yeah.

Speaker 10 When Andrew Luck decides to retire and he tried to pay him back, Jim Mercy was like, no, you keep all of it. That's for you, buddy.

Speaker 10 You earned it. So there's going to be

Speaker 10 a giant hole in NFL Fridays and Saturdays this season. I don't know who's going to announce if the roof is open, closed, the window open, open, closed.

Speaker 2 I love that.

Speaker 10 I loved him.

Speaker 10 He loved his football team.

Speaker 10 It doesn't seem like he meddled with his football team, maybe sometimes to a fault.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I would say so. Probably to a fault with some of the hires that he has.
But his extent of meddling with the team was, I just want to announce if the roof is open or closed. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Which is awesome.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

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Speaker 1 So yeah, and he was one of the more interesting guys in the NFL world.

Speaker 2 So R.A.P.

Speaker 1 Jimer.

Speaker 1 Also speaking in the NFL world, Max, congratulations. Tush Push

Speaker 2 stays.

Speaker 15 Tush Push stays.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 14 I'm happy about it, I guess.

Speaker 14 There was a part of me that wanted it to be

Speaker 10 banned. So that you could be like, you guys are pussies.

Speaker 14 So that I could call everyone pussies. Yep.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 14 you would still just QB sneak, and I wanted it to be the exact same number.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jeffrey Lurie, the owner of the Eagles, said,

Speaker 1 it is like a wet dream for a teenage boy to create a play that is so

Speaker 1 successful, the only way for it to be stopped is

Speaker 1 it to be banned.

Speaker 10 You can't ban wet dreams.

Speaker 1 No, that was a little weird, Max.

Speaker 14 He's absolutely right.

Speaker 10 Is it like a wet dream?

Speaker 10 The teenage boy part was. I don't know why you had to include that.

Speaker 1 Do you think Jeffrey Lurie?

Speaker 14 Teenage boys are the ones who get wet dreams.

Speaker 1 Do you think Jeffrey Lurie has come to the Tush Push?

Speaker 10 He's not a teenage boy. That's true.

Speaker 14 Cooper. No, he's not a teenage boy.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 When was the last time you had a wet dream?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 They fucking. Post-team.

Speaker 1 The fact that you just stop having wet dreams sucks.

Speaker 11 They rock. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's VR.

Speaker 2 It's better than VR. It is, dude.
I love that.

Speaker 1 Dude, it's like, this is sick.

Speaker 10 The reports were that the Tush Push was going to be banned, so then Jeff Lurie was like, fuck it. I'm going to go all in.

Speaker 10 I'm going to invite Jason Kelsey, and I'm going to stand up in front of this room of owners and talk to them about coming in my bed sheets.

Speaker 10 And then Jason Kelsey's going to bring it home by getting up there and probably sweating and crying. And it worked.

Speaker 10 Reading behind the scenes in this, it's actually very funny how the tush push proposal came to be. Because it's a Roger Goodell thing.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 It's Goodell, and it has nothing to do with player safety, despite what Hank thinks. It's just the fact that it's an ugly play, according to Roger Goodell.

Speaker 10 He's like, it's kind of a gross play, so I'm going to ask the Packers, who don't have an owner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we snuffed that out.

Speaker 1 And we're not like the Packers, they were like, oh, yeah, they can't blame one of the Packers owners. They don't have any.

Speaker 10 Yeah, so Roger Goodell wanted to change this rule because he thought it's an ugly, what he doesn't understand. The tush push is an ugly play, but it's got a great personality.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 And he doesn't get that.

Speaker 1 PFT, do you kind of wish that the Commanders had not voted to ban it? Because the Bears voted to ban it. I kind of wish they hadn't.

Speaker 10 I did not know what the vote breakdown was.

Speaker 14 Not only did the Bears vote to ban it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Ben Johnson likes explosive plays.

Speaker 14 Ben Johnson plays.

Speaker 2 He likes explosive plays. Such a fucking opportunity.

Speaker 10 What did he say?

Speaker 1 He said that the tush push has never led to an explosive play. I like explosive plays.

Speaker 10 First downs are explosive plays.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I looked at it really quickly because I was like, well, let's see.

Speaker 1 I think in this room, we're the two teams that voted to ban it. Well, Kraft changed his mind.

Speaker 10 I think Kraft is one of the ones that switched it up at the last minute.

Speaker 10 I think the Patriots switched up at the last minute.

Speaker 10 I think it's because Kraft likes to stick it to Goodell sometimes, and Vrabel was probably like, hey, we're going to be pussies if we vote. No, Vrabel's a football game.

Speaker 2 Well, also,

Speaker 1 there's a chance that when Jeffrey Lurie started talking about coming, Kraft was like, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I'm in.
I hear you. Wet dreams.

Speaker 10 Wet dreams?

Speaker 2 Say less. You're speaking my language.

Speaker 10 Say less, Amigo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. Listen, Max.
If I could have had the vote for the Bears, I would have voted for it to not be banned. I've been consistent.
I don't think it should be banned.

Speaker 1 People should just get a tush push.

Speaker 14 PFT has been playing this thing that it's like, I don't

Speaker 2 want it banned.

Speaker 14 If I could pick, I would choose for it not to be banned. Then he was like, but if it does get banned, that would be cool.

Speaker 10 Find me a clip of me saying I want to banner.

Speaker 2 No, I've been very

Speaker 2 consistent person. I'm not going to be a good person for PFT.

Speaker 1 Yeah, point your point.

Speaker 10 You're in his division. You have to vote against it.
Yeah, whatever you want.

Speaker 15 Yeah. No, no, you have to ban it.

Speaker 2 I thought

Speaker 2 Diana, right?

Speaker 12 No, my.

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah, Diana did report it was going to get banned in the morning.

Speaker 10 Well, I think some of those votes may change. You really happy.
That's like a wet dream for me.

Speaker 14 I didn't even know that, by the way. Memes just kept telling me.
He's like, are you going to bring up Diana?

Speaker 10 You stalk her.

Speaker 10 You stalk her in the hopes that one of the things that you read from her might be kind of wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The good news is...

Speaker 1 This one was wrong. The good news for all of this, I cannot wait till we get to do this all again next year.
It's going to be great.

Speaker 2 We're going to do the whole thing. That was another thing.

Speaker 14 The only team that

Speaker 14 voted for it to stay that is on the Eagles schedule this year is the Lions. Every other team that voted for it to stay is not on the Eagles schedule.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, the best case that you can make for banning the tush push is so that we don't have to talk for another year about whether or not they're going to ban the tush push.

Speaker 1 It's coming. We're going to do it again.

Speaker 14 Also, just respected Dan Campbell. Yeah.
Just that, like, everyone, it's like, oh, yeah,

Speaker 14 only the teams that don't play. And then it's like, no, Dan Campbell's like, this is football.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 they're the who's the owner uh sheila ford i think i believe now yeah probably like had like was like hey how we want to vote on this dan and he's just like we're not pussies yeah that's probably not fucking pussies that probably happened

Speaker 10 he probably said it like he's like ms ford respectfully we're not fucking pussies it is it is an ugly play if you don't appreciate the beauty that you can find in gross stuff sometimes yeah That's a fact.

Speaker 10 Which I can't. There's also more NFL news, Brock Purdy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Got paid.

Speaker 1 I feel like we missed that. He got paid.

Speaker 2 It was that like last week?

Speaker 10 I think it was a couple days ago, but the details are coming out now.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 10 And the only thing you can, like, you can look at that contract definitively, you can say he is the highest paid Brock of all time. Yeah.
Number one. Wow.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 more than Lesnar.

Speaker 2 Really? Yeah. In his career? I don't.

Speaker 10 The UFC didn't really pay fights. But what about WWE?

Speaker 2 Oh, I didn't think about.

Speaker 10 Yeah. I didn't think about WWE.

Speaker 1 He's made a lot of money.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 10 Maybe he hasn't. I think this might be the highest-paid Brock of all time.

Speaker 2 This was like a week ago, by the way. Yeah, I know.
It was so long ago, I forgot. Yeah, we totally missed it.
I was like, what?

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, I mean, we should have brought it up at the time.
You know what it was? I think it happened on a Friday night. Actually, I know it did.
It happened on a Friday at 4:04 p.m.

Speaker 6 That's not on us.

Speaker 1 Definitively, not on us.

Speaker 1 That's old news. Yep.
Look at that. Friday.

Speaker 1 We got the Friday news dump. And it also was at that Monday was

Speaker 2 that guy.

Speaker 2 What? What guy? What happened on that? That was the Hank episode.

Speaker 2 What happened to the Hank episode?

Speaker 2 Oh, right, right.

Speaker 10 So I guess what happened today was

Speaker 10 he gave a press conference about his contract. People talk about the Tatum injury.

Speaker 4 It's like, yeah, we had a healthy Tatum, we were down nine with three minutes left. Next could have easily blown that.
Whatever. We're not talking about this.

Speaker 2 We're not talking about that.

Speaker 1 This is a meme, memes. You could do this one where it's just the Pacers logo on that guy's head in Walmart.

Speaker 15 You're not that guy, pal.

Speaker 1 Pacers, I mean, the Pacers, that's the Pacers thing.

Speaker 11 That's the Pacers thing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and we did it to the Pacers last year. Whatever.

Speaker 9 We moved on. Brock, whatever.

Speaker 2 Brock. Do you know his name?

Speaker 4 I was about to say Lesnar.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 9 Talk a little puck.

Speaker 1 That was brutal for the Oilers.

Speaker 1 They gave up five goals in the third. It felt like the stars just hung around, hung around, get power plays, then just bury bury them.

Speaker 10 Yeah, and it is a lot of fun watching Connor McDavid play. Yeah.
That's what I got from that take.

Speaker 1 I also got from that take, respect to the Stars

Speaker 1 fans and crowd. That crowd was awesome.
They were standing so much during that game, and it just looked like an awesome, awesome time. So

Speaker 11 I think that's that Oilers got to win game too.

Speaker 1 They've got to win game two. It's a must-win.

Speaker 1 And then the Panthers are going to win the cup. I put the Panthers in the Thunder category.

Speaker 1 Panthers.

Speaker 2 They just fucking worked the Hurricanes again.

Speaker 10 I saw Biz say that, or no, I think it was Whitney said that the Panthers dominating like this probably makes Lee's fans feel a little bit better. Yeah.
It makes Capitals fans feel a lot worse. Yeah.

Speaker 10 They're just punishing the Hurricanes, and it doesn't look competitive at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like I think the Panthers have already played their toughest series.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good job, Lee's. You're very clear.

Speaker 12 Until the finals.

Speaker 2 Maybe not.

Speaker 1 Maybe they're just that good.

Speaker 10 They might be.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They are.

Speaker 10 They had an injury tonight. I forget who got injured, but Aho dove into somebody's leg and looked like an MCL.

Speaker 1 And Bob is locked in.

Speaker 2 Locked in. I just love goalie Bob.
That's your goalie. Bob.
Bob. Bob.

Speaker 1 Do we have anything else? Before we get to our great interview with Dwayne Wade.

Speaker 1 Oh, college football playoff changes their seating.

Speaker 10 I think we expected that, right?

Speaker 1 Expected that. Makes sense.

Speaker 1 It's funny because I think that that wouldn't have happened if it weren't for Boise.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Boise kind of just did that on their own right away.

Speaker 1 So, because Boise, you know, the fact that there weren't four higher-ranked Power Five programs last year, and then Boise was like, oh, I guess we get to buy.

Speaker 9 Everyone was just like, this can't happen.

Speaker 10 Yep.

Speaker 1 They did just like, it was going to happen eventually. Boise just expedited the process of being like, hey, we get a buy.

Speaker 10 I think if it had been in the regular, the old format, but it had gone more true to like Power Schools getting the first round home playoff games, if that had happened for like four years and then Boise State in year five, they get the home playoff game, then everyone's like, fuck yeah, this is awesome.

Speaker 2 Yeah, right.

Speaker 10 What a bunch of chaos.

Speaker 2 I actually

Speaker 1 is this going to sound crazy?

Speaker 1 A buy is always

Speaker 2 more important,

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 1 and Arizona State was the other team. A buy is always more important, but like losing a

Speaker 1 home playoff game, those did rock, and they're probably like pretty big money maker.

Speaker 14 For fans,

Speaker 14 I think it's better to have a home playoff game because

Speaker 14 if you play someone shitty, it's like you just beat up on someone else. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 They should just do the second round

Speaker 1 at home as well.

Speaker 2 That would be awesome.

Speaker 1 That would be so sick.

Speaker 10 I think they have to deal with like the Bulls.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they do.

Speaker 10 I know they do. So that's going to be.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 tough. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Do we have anything else? I think that was pretty much everything.

Speaker 10 Scheduled for next week. So we got a show on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Tuesday and Friday.

Speaker 10 So no show Monday. Yep.
We do love you guys, but we're respecting the troops this weekend.

Speaker 11 Have to respect the troops.

Speaker 1 Yep. Have to do it.

Speaker 10 We are going to be working on Monday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll be here Monday night recording a show.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Recapping everything. Oh, I had one other thing.
It was a shout out to SMU.

Speaker 1 They posted, I don't know if you guys saw saw this they posted a bragging tweet about uh their team gpa being the highest ever been hell yeah what do you guys think it was this is a tweet they said like congratulations smu what two three's football two three

Speaker 1 no this is a congratulatory the highest

Speaker 1 semester so this semester marks the highest full semester gpa in program history 2-4 i think it's 2-5 it's actually higher than that 295.

Speaker 11 okay

Speaker 2 that's what i got in college yeah yeah but i feel like you can't brag if you're not over three.

Speaker 2 No, you can't. To be like, this is the highest ever.

Speaker 10 I think if you're SMU, you can.

Speaker 2 A lot of players. Yeah.
A lot of players.

Speaker 10 They killed our team because we were so dumb.

Speaker 2 They were in the playoff last year, remember, for like

Speaker 1 three minutes? I don't even know. That game was over.
So remember the SMU

Speaker 1 flight?

Speaker 2 Was it SMU Clemson?

Speaker 1 Who did it? No, no, it was Penn State. Remember there was the famous

Speaker 1 viral flight where they got delayed, like big time SMU donors, and they didn't get there until halftime. It's like, why would you even just turn the fucking plate around?

Speaker 1 What are you looking at, memes?

Speaker 14 Me and memes are struggling to believe that PFT only got a 2-9 at JMU.

Speaker 10 It's a good skill. I feel like

Speaker 14 you're smart.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I didn't really do much.

Speaker 1 College is a

Speaker 1 it's not like a test of intelligence, it's just whether you like went to the class or not.

Speaker 10 And I didn't, I didn't really like going to class that much. That's fair.
I had two classes that I liked to go to, and that's pretty much it.

Speaker 10 One of which I got a D plus in, and I was pumped about that. That is sick.

Speaker 10 Not a great college student.

Speaker 2 Respect. Yeah.
Hank?

Speaker 10 Out of 2-3 in high school.

Speaker 7 Fuck you. Nice.

Speaker 2 Good work.

Speaker 1 Get into SMU. I feel like SMU is a pretty hard school to get into.

Speaker 13 Well, yeah.

Speaker 10 It's less about your test scores and more about your credit scores.

Speaker 2 Ah. Yeah.
One of those. Uh-huh.
One of those.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's get to our interview with Dwayne Wade. And then on Firefest, we have our guy Oldie back in studio.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. In studio, it is basketball hall of famer, three-time NBA champion, Dwayne Wade, in studio.

Speaker 1 I think you might be one of the most accomplished people that's ever sat on that couch. So I just want to say that to start.

Speaker 1 Thank you for coming in. We also have the Larry O'Brien trophy sitting in between us.
Yeah, yeah. When you see this trophy,

Speaker 12 do you feel like maybe you got another year left? Like, hey, I want another one of those.

Speaker 1 Maybe join a playoff team late?

Speaker 2 Well, first of all, thanks for the four varies.

Speaker 13 Yes.

Speaker 1 The V V V I P.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 No, I have my own. You know what I mean? It's like seeing someone else's kid and thinking you need another kid.
I don't need

Speaker 2 three of them.

Speaker 10 You see all the work that goes into that. Yeah.
Raising one of these. Yeah,

Speaker 12 I raised three of them already.

Speaker 1 Wait, do you have a favorite kid? Trophy I'm talking about? Yeah, I do. Which one?

Speaker 2 My firstborn. 2006.
Okay. All right.
That's my favorite one. Yeah.
That was a good one. That was really good.
The refs really got involved in that series. I mean, that's what they're supposed to do.

Speaker 2 Protect the product, baby. Protect the product.

Speaker 1 When you won that first one, I mean, that was early in your career.

Speaker 11 Did you, I'm always curious with this.

Speaker 1 Like, did you feel a little bit of relief being like, all right, I, you know, because there's guys who go their whole career and they're chasing, chasing, chasing.

Speaker 1 Not that you relax a little, but you're like, I know I can do it and I'll get another one, but it might take a little time, but at least I got that one.

Speaker 2 1,000%. Yeah.
Oh, I was probably annoying as hell to my friends.

Speaker 2 Right after the championship in 06, LeBron had a bike-a-thon in Cleveland, and I was there. You don't go to Cleveland for a bike-a-thon after you win a championship.
You go somewhere else.

Speaker 2 I was like, no, I want to show up.

Speaker 2 And I knew Melo was going to be there. I knew my guy was going to be there.

Speaker 2 I wanted them to see that I was a champion. And they didn't have a championship yet.
Like, we were obviously all young. But yeah, getting that first one out of the way, I was 24 years old.

Speaker 2 You know, I was, I came in, you know, a little bit unheralded compared to the class that I was in.

Speaker 2 And to be able to get that chip, that chip very early, yeah, I was like, okay, all right, now I got that out the way, now I can focus on like my individual self a little bit.

Speaker 2 Now I can get a little selfish, yeah, go out to some awards.

Speaker 2 But then after a couple years, I was like, okay, this sucks.

Speaker 1 You need another one.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because now I've actually felt what it feels like to host that trophy over my head.

Speaker 10 And so now it actually made it worse for my whole career because now i'm chasing that right that feeling because nothing else feels like that no matter what i do yeah you see other guys doing it you're like you get jealous so jealous like you're not doing it right no i need to do that again in that postseason it felt like it was it it was just like a team of destiny when that shot went in where you were just falling through the air threw it over the back of your head and went in at that point i was like okay He's going to win a championship.

Speaker 13 Really? Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 I mean, I wish you could have got in touch with me and let me know.

Speaker 10 That shot doesn't go in for somebody that's not going to end up winning.

Speaker 2 Have you ever practiced that shot or were you just like i'm just gonna throw it on no no so i'll practice dumb shots all the time like i'm a firm believer in like

Speaker 2 the moments where you're just in in the gym by yourself is like really really use your imagination like this is the time to just do all the dumb stuff because you never know when you're going to need it and so i personally used to under like i would fall a lot And so I would go in a gym and just like, I'll find, you know, angles on a backboard.

Speaker 2 You might hear this in like Kyrie and guys who are very good at it.

Speaker 2 I always were like, yo, if I'm getting in a point where I'm like in trouble, I need to be able to find a crack on the backboard that gives it an opportunity.

Speaker 2 And so I always used to play with, going to gym and just play with shots. And so when I have those moments and I've fallen, I just look at that little spot on the backboard like, oh, that's familiar.

Speaker 2 Let me put it there. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 And it works out sometimes.

Speaker 1 Was that the year that Shaq gave you the nickname, Flash?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think he gave it to me in 05, the first year.

Speaker 2 We won in our second year together, 05. He gave it to me.

Speaker 2 And it was cool because, you know, you need, at that time, if you didn't have a nickname,

Speaker 2 you was not cool.

Speaker 2 Like, everybody had a nickname who was like a really good player. And I didn't have one.
Like, Dwayne Wade was not cool enough.

Speaker 1 Well, D-Wade is cool.

Speaker 2 Well, I worked hard to make D-Wade like one name. It was like, you had to have one name, like Magic.
Shaq. Yeah.
Kobe.

Speaker 2 Michael or MJ, whatever. You needed one name.
So D-Wade became my one name, but I also needed that alter ego. Yeah.
Right. And Shaq kind of helped develop Superman and Flash.
So

Speaker 1 when he gave that to you, though, were you like, hey, wait a second, you're Superman?

Speaker 11 Can I be Superman?

Speaker 2 No, absolutely not. Okay.

Speaker 2 You're okay being

Speaker 1 I know he is, but like, you know, there's always the debate like who's, who's taking last shot, who's Batman, who's Robin. You're like, I'll be Flash.
I'm Flash.

Speaker 2 Well, we didn't have that problem.

Speaker 1 Not at all? No.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, yeah, you're taking the last shot. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. You didn't have that problem.
Yeah, well, other people might have had that problem. Shaq already had, like, when he, once, I got the, the easier part of Shaq.

Speaker 2 like he already had went through he was the biggest one of the biggest stars in the world he had three championships like he was so accomplished and secure yeah by the time he got to miami and all he wanted to do was win him another ring and so he knew that i was one of the ones that can help him get to that and so he was amazing with me man like he really pumped a lot of juice into me was telling me things that i didn't even know was true like he told me like i was going to be one of the greatest two guards that ever played a game.

Speaker 2 And I'm sitting here looking at him like, okay, if you think so, then, you know, I know you play with Penny, I know you play with Kobe, and so if you say that, then I believe it, right?

Speaker 2 So, Shaq was incredible with me, man.

Speaker 10 Yeah, so where would you rank the nicknames between Flash, D-Wade, and then Way of Wade? Remember Way of Wade?

Speaker 2 Well, it's still popping.

Speaker 10 Is it still popping? Yeah, we still got Way of Wade.

Speaker 2 Where Wave of Wade? Where is it popping? Listen, I got on Way of Wade shoes right now.

Speaker 10 I remember when you said, Hey, hey, guys, this is my new nickname. Just a heads up.

Speaker 2 It's Way of Way. It was wild.
Yeah, please call me Way of Wade from now on.

Speaker 2 It was Brandy. It was Brandy.
Yeah, Way of Wade is my brand. And in Lee Ning, I have my own brand called Way of Wade.

Speaker 2 Actually, I'm wearing D'Angelo Russell shoes. We just launched these.
And so Way of Wade is still a thing. Okay, I love it.
Yeah. I love it.
I was trying to make WoW a thing, though.

Speaker 2 I was trying to have people call me WoW, which is

Speaker 2 Way of Way, W-O-W.

Speaker 10 WoW is a good name. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I was trying.

Speaker 10 So when Shaq comes over and he starts playing Miami, I know that Pat Riley and The Heat are famous for some of their conditioning rules.

Speaker 10 Was that an adjustment period for him where it's like, hey,

Speaker 10 we're going to weigh you in. We're going to take body fat measurements all the time.
Oh, man.

Speaker 2 Shaq, I think, you know, Shaq tells a lot of stories now. So it was really cool to be able to get behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 But watching him trying to get around those, like, he'll put baby oil on his whole body, right? He'd come in just oiled up.

Speaker 2 I don't even know if I should, that is, this is the brain temperature in the world to use baby oil.

Speaker 10 No, that's fine.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 you got to oil up, yeah. Shaq would come in so you could not like grab the fat.
Like it was too slip, right? So you couldn't like just grab it all, right?

Speaker 10 They were like the pinchers, the skin calipers?

Speaker 2 Yeah, or you'll see guys in like Antoine Walker and the guys would be in the steam. Now, I'm young, so I didn't have these issues at that time.

Speaker 2 I didn't know, I didn't understand it, but now once I got older, I did. But you see the veteran guys finding all these ways around the weight and body fat.

Speaker 2 Guys would be in the steam room right before they got to do the weight and body fat, doing all these things.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I've saw guys get suspended for games because they did not make weight and body fat. Like Pat didn't play those games at all.
That's crazy.

Speaker 10 So even you, when you were unquestionably the face of the franchise, you'd have to do that every single day.

Speaker 2 It wasn't every day. It was like once a week.
It was once a week you would come in, you had to get weight and body fat.

Speaker 2 So, if you build a good relationship with Bill Ferrand, who was our strength and conditioning coach, you'd be like, yo, Bill, get me on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 Let me get myself tight for a couple days. But it was something serious.
And I think, you know, Pat just have these pillars, you know, that the organization, you know, lives by.

Speaker 2 And you guys probably have heard it: best condition, most professional, hardest work, all these things. And this is a part of it.

Speaker 2 And he felt that if you were at a certain body fat he had it for guards you know and in forwards and centers that you were in great shape and if you're in great shape then you can give me your best on the court right and i you know i don't think i believed it early on until it was times where i was not at that body fat space and I wasn't in great shape.

Speaker 2 And you feel it in moments on the court. You feel it in those moments.
You can't make that extra effort. Fourth quarter, you're a little bit, you know, you're a little bit more tired.

Speaker 2 And so it was a method to the madness, but I think as players, you're like, nah, just give me the ball. I can hoop.
I'm a hooper. Just let me play.

Speaker 10 Yeah, we have that here at Barcelona, too. They weigh us in, body fat.
Yeah. If we're in too good of shape, they don't let us podcast.

Speaker 6 They're like, you got to be fat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're too chiseled. All right.
So the story you told

Speaker 1 maybe a couple months ago, which we laughed about, we thought it was incredible. The LeBron and the cookies.
So do you really think that it was the cookies that was the final straw?

Speaker 2 I did not say it was the cookies that was the final straw.

Speaker 1 That's what we took from it.

Speaker 2 Everybody took that straw.

Speaker 1 And for the record, we're on LeBron's side.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You touch someone's cookies, that's fighting.

Speaker 2 I just said that was the first time that I was like, Houston, we have a problem.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the story goes LeBron brings cookies with him every single time he gets on the plane.

Speaker 2 Well, sometimes, but the plane will have cookies as well. Okay.
So he's double cooking. Well, sometimes he brings it, but this is after a game.
This is on the road after a game. They make the cookies.

Speaker 2 Like, you can bring it when you're at home and you're about to go on a road. But when you're on a plane after, you know, on a road trip, they make the cookies on a plane.

Speaker 2 And so, you know, you kind kind of have to have your comforts. When you, this is a long season.
So, we all have our vices.

Speaker 2 We all have the things that makes, you know, that makes us feel comfortable, especially when you're not at home with your comforts. You got to have those things.
Well, cookies. I'm one of those guys.

Speaker 2 I love me some warm chocolate chip cookies. And that was one of Brian's vices as well.

Speaker 2 And so I told the story about the moment we were, you know, we all would get in front of a plane and we all would play cards, you know, gambling and playing cards, bo-re, and poker, and all these things is a big part of like camaraderie on a plane when you're flying.

Speaker 2 And that was one of the moments when they didn't, when they uh, when they said someone took the cookies off the plane, I got a lot of text messages from that, by the way.

Speaker 2 A lot of people was hitting me telling me their version of the story. And I'm like, I was actually there.
Yeah. This is my version.
I just saw it in Brian.

Speaker 2 Like, he became like a five-year-old kid when them cookies went on that plane.

Speaker 6 He got real quiet, pushed them cards away.

Speaker 2 And I was like, oh, this is, that's not good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, it's the nick picking. Yeah.
It's the nick picking of thing. Like, we're, we were, one of the greatest things, we went to four finals in a row.
Don't take my cookies away from me.

Speaker 2 Right, right.

Speaker 2 Something. Right.

Speaker 1 And what it was it confirmed it was Pat Riley that took the cookies?

Speaker 2 Well, listen, Pat Riley, it's Pat Riley's show. Right.
I don't care who took the cookies.

Speaker 1 It had to come, the cookies don't get touched if Pat Riley doesn't say anything.

Speaker 2 In my eyes, everything comes from Pat. It doesn't matter.
Pat is the, he's the, he's the beginning and the end. Right.
Right. And so you're goddamn right.

Speaker 2 It comes from the beginning and the end in my eyes. And And so that was the, that was just the first moment.

Speaker 2 And that wasn't, LeBron didn't leave the heat because he didn't get warm chocolate chip cookies. But it's the, it's the things that, you know, when it comes to the nitpicking,

Speaker 2 you know, and I like the wild, when you're around each other for so long and, you know, you've accomplished the things you came to accomplish and you're around each other for so long.

Speaker 2 Everything is not as funny as it used to be. Everyone is not as cool as they once was.

Speaker 2 And so once you start having these little things that start adding up and it start building up, you start seeing it on a player. It starts sending wear on them.

Speaker 2 And I just saw, I just saw him and I was like, oh, boy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Was there a moment, though, after that where you're like, all right, I think he's definitely leaving. Like, could you feel it?

Speaker 2 Not really. It ain't like he wore it on his sleeve.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, LeBron keeps them cars close to his chest.

Speaker 2 I didn't, I didn't really feel that my guy was leaving until we were in Vegas,

Speaker 2 you know, before he left. We went to Vegas.
He hosted his Nike camp. you know, big camp.
We all went to Vegas to kind of go hang out and, you know, be guys.

Speaker 2 And I I could tell that he had a lot on his mind and there were some things he wanted to say that he was not saying.

Speaker 2 But I just waited for him to tell me, you know, I want to go to my bro, you out? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I could tell that I'm sure it was a hard decision for him, and I'm sure it was hard to tell, you know, me and other guys. And so I just waited.

Speaker 2 You know, I waited for him to have that conversation, you know, with me.

Speaker 2 You know, but ultimately, we had to have the conversation just like we did to team up. We had the conversation.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So on the other side, the team up, when did you know that was going to happen? Because there were certain teams.

Speaker 1 I'm a Bulls fan. I was like, oh, I think they might come to the Bulls.
I think the Knicks felt the same way. Was it always the Heat? Was it you were just leading everyone else on?

Speaker 2 Well, I think the one thing is, is Chris Bosch was, Chris Boss is in Toronto, right? And so once Chris Bosch got a chance to come out here and get, you know, everybody was like.

Speaker 2 throwing flowers at his feet. He wavered a couple times on, like, we didn't know if he was going to be a part of, you know, the opportunity for us to to play together.
Right.

Speaker 2 And I think the Heat did a great job of keeping, once again, their cards close to their chest because we knew going into that summer that each team that was in position can get two star players, that everyone wanted two star players.

Speaker 2 And then the Heat came out of nowhere. It was like, hey, we can get three.
And so I think it changed something for us. We all had a conversation about it.

Speaker 2 And, you know, we realized we would like to play together, but at the same time, but go off. and do what you need to do.
Go have these interviews with these teams.

Speaker 2 And if something changes, then let's come back to the table. So it wasn't 100%,

Speaker 2 but it was a conversation that we had going into a free agency: like, hey, we will all love to play together,

Speaker 18 you know, and this and that.

Speaker 2 And then, but also, too, you got to go off and you got to see what's best for you. But ultimately, we would love to play together.
Right.

Speaker 2 And it was times where, like, you know, we, me and Brian get on the phone. Like, I think Chris, I don't know if Chris gonna, I don't know if he's gonna, the Knicks telling him everything.

Speaker 2 The Bulls telling him everything he wants to hear. I don't know if he's gonna, if he's gonna play in Miami.
And also, too, with Brian, too. I didn't know because I'm not in his meetings, right?

Speaker 2 And with me, when I came to Chicago and I, I got a a chance to go in there and grab that Chicago boys jersey, I was back at home in the mirror, like, and now,

Speaker 2 you know what I mean? Like, I went back to that kid from Chicago. So I think it was a moment where all of us was like, we probably wavered in our thought of like, man, this looks good for me.

Speaker 2 Even though we had the conversation about playing together. And that was, and people think it was like two years before.
It was not. It was like three years.
Yeah, it was not.

Speaker 2 Don't give us that much credit.

Speaker 2 How long for real was it like? It was free agency time.

Speaker 11 But before free agency, there was at least a little wink and a nod like, hey, it'd be cool to play together. Nope.

Speaker 1 Was there a third option if Chris Bosch didn't come to Miami? Would that you guys had talked to or explored?

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, people, once people start getting a little

Speaker 2 inside that we were thinking about playing together, you know, we got a couple calls. So we'll get calls from Amari was a free agent.
Yeah. Boozer was a free agent.

Speaker 2 And so we had to look and see if those personalities and those talents, if it obviously worked with us. Right.

Speaker 2 Because I think it it was a, Brian and I were both committed to playing together once we committed to playing together. And it was really important who that third person was.

Speaker 2 And we knew all along that if we were going to do this, that Chris Bosch was the choice.

Speaker 11 The choice.

Speaker 2 He was, it wasn't, he wasn't like a another, it was another option from the standpoint of this is our first option.

Speaker 2 Just because of our talents already together was, it was, it was hard to envision how we're both going to be successful at the same time because we're both ball dominant guys. Right.

Speaker 2 And you need somebody else to kind of like relieve that. And Chris Boss was the reliever in that for us more than like Amari or more than even Boozer.

Speaker 1 I would have loved to hear Boozer's pitch. Was he like, it's okay, I got this.
Don't worry. I'm not going to take any shots.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Brian talked to Boozer.
They had already played together in Cleveland. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. And I talked to Amari because, you know, me and Amari were, you know, we had a cool relationship.

Speaker 2 So I actually was trying to get Amari there the year before. I was trying to get Amari to the heat before.
And I didn't think this was the, what, 2009

Speaker 2 All-Star weekend. I was trying to get Satra for Amari.
I'm like, listen, let's do it now. Right.
And the Heat was like, no, we're trying to be patient.

Speaker 2 And so I'm like, all right, well, patient going to get me out the door. Right.
You know, any type thing. And,

Speaker 2 you know, and so it didn't work. But like, you know, Amari, Brown, and I would have been dominated by the same time.
It would have, it's a total different game than Chris Bosch. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 19 When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 19 sorts that's where Snickers comes in man that thing is packed roasted peanuts nugget caramel milk chocolate it's like the MVP of candy bars and when you bite into it boom it sorts you out gets your head back in the game of life satisfying your hunger remember this snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else snickers satisfies man that's a winning play yeah can you tell me about how the banana boat crew came together you talked to Carmelo about this, by the way.

Speaker 10 I think he's miffed that he wasn't on the banana boat.

Speaker 1 Well, no, he insisted that he was invited. Yes.

Speaker 1 We were telling him when he came on the show, we're like, dude, you didn't get invited. He's like, I was invited.
I just didn't really want to do it.

Speaker 10 He said he was too cool for it. He was not involved in Banana Boat.

Speaker 10 But tell me about how that came to be.

Speaker 2 You know, the crazy thing about life is it is a photo with the banana boat, and Carmelo Anthony is not on the photo.

Speaker 2 People can look at the photo and still don't care and still say that we all are the banana. Like, I don't know how that name came about with all of us because we all was not on the banana boats.

Speaker 2 My wife was on a banana boat with us,

Speaker 2 and so we were actually all on vacation. We were all was going on vacation together.

Speaker 2 We would take vacation, you know, we got together and we was like, hey, man, we want to start taking these little yacht trips together. We was put all our monies together.

Speaker 2 We would take our wives, Significant Ellis, and we would go on vacations together. And so, Mello wasn't there yet.
They were actually on their way, like literally like headed to us.

Speaker 2 And we were just, you know, having, getting in the water, having fun.

Speaker 2 And my wife wanted to go on a banana boat and so chris paul brian i we all got on the banana boat now we're in the middle of nowhere no one's supposed to know this but us and someone took a photo from who god knows where i'm so happy they did it

Speaker 2 i'd be so mad if we never got down oh no one's supposed to have seen us on that banana boat first of all like if i'd have knew they would say we'd have looked a little cooler no it's i think it's one of the best pictures of all time yeah you look at that and i honestly when i look at it i think like carmelo should be there yeah so would he have been invited would he have been invited no he was on his way yeah but if he he had been there, he got on the banana boat.

Speaker 1 Would he have been on the banana boat?

Speaker 2 I don't know if all four of them. I don't know.
I don't know. I can't.

Speaker 1 Seems like a little meme girl thing, not letting Carmelo on the banana boat. You guys didn't wait for him? I would have waited for my guy.

Speaker 2 I don't know if all of us would have to go. I don't know if Mello would have got on the banana boat.
I don't think Melo would have done. Mellow, too cool.
Well, one's got to go.

Speaker 10 You got to kick somebody off the banana boat if you want to.

Speaker 2 Right, and I want kicking my wife off the banana boat. Smart move, smart man, very smart.
You can't kick Chris Paul. You can't kick Braun off.

Speaker 2 So I don't think we would have got a, I don't think it would have been a banana boat.

Speaker 9 I think Chris Paul over the edge.

Speaker 1 Wait, so if you could go back and delete one thing.

Speaker 1 If you could delete one thing from the internet, would it be the banana boat or would it be the introductory press conference for the heat? Which one?

Speaker 1 The not one, but two, but three, before you guys came out.

Speaker 2 I don't care about that.

Speaker 9 Wow, it was kind of funny.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but it's just jokes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, no, you guys were serious.

Speaker 2 No, it went no, you guys.

Speaker 2 It was one person who said not it was everybody once said that. It was one person who said not three, not four, no.

Speaker 10 What was going through your head when you said not three, not four?

Speaker 2 No, you were sweeping. I was like, slow down.
I was at the point where you're like, oh, shit, this is too many.

Speaker 2 Well, first of all, that was one of the things that it's supposed to be internal.

Speaker 12 That's an internal conversation.

Speaker 2 It was a packed, it was a packed audience. Yeah, but it wasn't supposed to go out to everybody.
That's one of those moments that you're not supposed to go out to everybody.

Speaker 2 What you say in the house, stay in the house, supposedly. You know, that's supposed to have been just for us.
Now, if we go back, run a clip, look at me when he said it.

Speaker 2 I put my head down like, woo-wee!

Speaker 2 Because I had won a championship before. I knew how hard it was to obviously win the championship.
So there's no way. Like, yes, we thought we were going to be a problem.

Speaker 2 Yes, we thought we was about to run the table, but we also knew the league is very, very good. And

Speaker 2 it's not that damn easy. So when he was doing a 9-1, not two,

Speaker 2 we in the moment, right? Killing ourselves. And it became something that people, you know, took and made it like factuals.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, we signed a contract and said we're going to win seven championships. Oh, yeah.
We all. I mean, everyone made fun of it.
Yeah, but it's cool. It's jokes.
It ain't nothing.

Speaker 1 Because if you, if he had said instead, like, hey, we might win a championship, then you win two, everyone's like, holy shit, they, they did even better.

Speaker 1 But when you say you're going to win seven and then you only win two.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, the Senator Yo Spurs is out there. First of all, I mean, I don't, I don't think you can't just run through this league.
I don't care who you are. Yeah.
You're going to earn it.

Speaker 2 And so, you know, there's teams out there that could compete versus us no matter what team we put together.

Speaker 2 And also, too, when you put three guys like that together, it's very hard to build a roster, a full roster. You know, we had to get guys that take so many pay cuts to be able to be on the team.

Speaker 2 And so, you know, you don't think about all that. You're just, you're in the moment.
You're thinking about this dynamic. Who's going to stop this dynamic? We amstar fans.
We feeling ourselves.

Speaker 2 And then Brian got a little loose on the mic. He started counting a little extra.
Yeah. You know what I mean? And so once he started going, I was like, oh, okay, well, well, you the young boy.

Speaker 2 I guess if you said that, we rolling with you because you the one going to, it's about seven. I'm going to be a little old.

Speaker 2 Yeah, right, right. Because it ain't going to be seven in a row.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 I'm watching the video right now. You do put your head down.
You're like, please stop. Yeah, I put my head down.

Speaker 2 I'm like, oh, he don't, he don't know.

Speaker 10 And then the camera pans to Pat Riley in the audience.

Speaker 2 He's like, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 10 What is he saying?

Speaker 10 We were talking to Mike Miller the other week, and he said that he felt a lot of pressure because of that. Really?

Speaker 10 The role players, because they knew if you don't win, it's not the big three that are going to be in trouble that are going to be gone, but it's everybody around them. Right.

Speaker 10 If the role players don't do their job and step up. So it was that.
And then he was also a little bit upset. He never got invited to Bouray.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Mike ain't spending none of that money. No, he did not ain't spent none of that money since he got to the NBA.

Speaker 1 No, but he did say he was like, the pressure of, like, he's like, I was a really good player, and then I come to the heat, and it's like, I have six shots a game, and I have to make three or four of them.

Speaker 1 Like, for sure. That kind of pressure.

Speaker 1 Did you feel that for the role players where it's like, hey, these guys, even though they aren't asked to do as much, what they're asked to do, they have to be perfect when they're asked to do it.

Speaker 2 Listen, we don't, you don't.

Speaker 2 LeBron, D-Way, and Chris Bosch don't get together in their prime to not have pressure. Right.
This is what, hey, this is what we hear for everybody.

Speaker 2 If you're not, if you ain't ain't signing up for this, then don't sign up here.

Speaker 2 At this point, once you're just playing in the NBA and you're playing games and you're going home first round or regular season,

Speaker 2 I want to feel something.

Speaker 2 I want something. I want to be a part of something that's just really bigger than me.
And that's what we signed up for. And so if you signed up to play with the Miami Heat, you signed up for pressure.

Speaker 2 That's where you feel alive. We wanted to feel alive.
And so

Speaker 2 we welcome the pressure, right? You want to see how you respond and

Speaker 2 can you succeed in the middle of the midst midst of this pressure. And so I loved it.

Speaker 2 I didn't mind. And if somebody didn't,

Speaker 2 you can see the ones who will weed themselves out when it came to the pressure moments. But Mike was, man, Mike was a gambler.
Mike didn't have no thumbs. Mike didn't have no toes.

Speaker 2 Like Mike was the, he was injured all the time when he played with us. I felt bad for him, man, because Mike can play.
That was one of the guys that Brian really wanted on the team.

Speaker 2 Like Brian wanted Mike. I wanted UD.
These are the guys who was like, hey, this don't work without this guy and that guy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so we made sure, and they also made sure by taking the pay cuts that they were there. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Speaking of UD, he seems like the best locker room guy ever.

Speaker 10 Like a nice veteran presence to have around.

Speaker 10 How long did he play for? Until he was 42 years old?

Speaker 2 He played 20. Yeah.
He played 20 years with the heat.

Speaker 10 I think he was 42 years old when he retired from the game. And he was on the heat for a long time, not really playing that much, but just being a presence at the locker room.

Speaker 10 What was his role in the locker room on some of those teams?

Speaker 2 Well, he's the culture carrier. You know what I mean? He's the voice.
And when you D say something, everybody listen.

Speaker 2 I don't care what stature, I don't care if you're averaging 30, 40 points a game, when you D stand up and say something, you're going to listen. And also, too, he ran Miami.
So, you know,

Speaker 2 you couldn't go nowhere without people tapping on your shoulder. And you know, as UD, UD got eyes on you.
You know what I'm saying? But

Speaker 2 it's just certain people that just have your respect. And

Speaker 2 it ain't about what they accomplish in this. It's about what they do every day.
He's an everyday guy.

Speaker 2 And you respect the guy to come and give everything they have to get every ounce out of their ability every day. And, you know, and don't bitch and moan about it.

Speaker 2 Just go about his business, put his hardhead on. And so he's the guy, and we all respected him, man.
Brian respected him just as much as I did. Pat Rowley respected him just as much as anybody.

Speaker 2 And so, you know, on the outside, when people say, you know, anything about UD, on the inside, you understand that he's one of the most important voices that Miami Heat has ever had in the organization.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
And if I ever become a coach, which I won't be, he'll be on my staff. Yeah.
Go get him.

Speaker 10 You never want to coach?

Speaker 2 I mean, you see these contracts? I don't know. Listen, never know.
Yeah, I mean, Mike J. Reddick showed you.

Speaker 1 You go podcasting to being a coach. We could be coaches.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's all it takes.

Speaker 1 You got a good podcast. If you think so.

Speaker 10 The thing is, getting fired as a coach is actually kind of sweet.

Speaker 2 Fire me. Yeah.
Give me that five years and then let me go out to two. Yeah, hang out.
Getting paid not to work.

Speaker 10 That's what we all work towards.

Speaker 9 I'll go find myself.

Speaker 2 I'll get fired.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I'll just go be like an offensive analyst for one of my friends.

Speaker 2 No, it's a miserable job, though.

Speaker 1 You think so?

Speaker 1 If you care.

Speaker 1 When did you know, speaking of coaches, when did you know Spo was special?

Speaker 1 Because I think that was an interesting dynamic of you guys having that team and like Spolstra's a younger coach, and there was definitely the murmur of like, is Pat Riley going to do it again?

Speaker 11 Is he going to come back down?

Speaker 2 No, we didn't want that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But was there a moment where you're like, okay,

Speaker 1 I feel like he's got this. I know he's got this.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 I was a star player when Spo got his first head coaching job. And so, you know, I was there alone, the bumps and the bruises of a first-time coach, right?

Speaker 2 But about time Brown and them came to Miami, I think he was about two, three years on the job.

Speaker 2 You saw the big improvement, you know, as a coach. And like, you know, he was very, he had his strengths right away.
And his strengths was you're going to be prepared, right?

Speaker 2 His preparation is incredible. His work ethics is off the chart.
But there's a lot of other things that goes into coaching besides that.

Speaker 2 And then by the time Brown came, he was a little bit better at it. And then, you know, after we lost in that finals, he went down and started reinventing himself.

Speaker 2 You know, Spo is one of those guys that will go into football locker rooms and other sports to see some of the other great coaches, what they're doing, how they're involving.

Speaker 2 And you start seeing his involve. He started evolving every year as a coach.
And I mean, obviously, he's one of the greatest now. But when he first got the job, I was like, what are we doing? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Who is this?

Speaker 2 And I had a great relationship with Spo. He was the the guy who helped me with my game early on.
He was my workout guy.

Speaker 2 You know, he was in the video room and he'd come up and help me work out after practice. So we had a great relationship, but then he got handed the head coaching job.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, wait, wait, what are we doing? Right. And then, you know, but to see his work ethics, to see the staff that was put around him, shout out to David Fisdell,

Speaker 2 Keith Ashton, like these tough guys, Ronnie Ronstein. Like, they put a good, good staff around him and allow him to grow, make mistakes.
You have to have that.

Speaker 2 You cannot bring a young coach in and fire him within the first three years. You have to give them space and time to learn how to be a coach, especially in the professional league.

Speaker 2 And so Spo has that and he had that with Pat. And so he wasn't going anywhere.
Pat let everybody know that you will get out of here before he leaves.

Speaker 2 Well, now he got time to become a great coach because

Speaker 2 he is comfortable sitting in his seat, but he works his tail off. Nobody works harder than Spo Stra.

Speaker 10 Yeah. I'm interested to know about

Speaker 10 that heat team in the first couple of years because it really is fascinating that you've got all these superstars, superstars that have been the man in their own right.

Speaker 10 Everywhere they've played, it's been, you are the best player on this team. You are the key to this franchise.
You get together.

Speaker 10 And I think in theory, you guys are like, yeah, we know that it's going to take sacrifice. We know what it's going to be like to maybe take a back seat in certain points of the game or whatever.

Speaker 10 But then once reality hits you, you start playing the games, that becomes a different story where you're now figuring out how to be a team on the fly.

Speaker 10 Like, what was that like feeling each other out for like, okay, here's how it's going to work in this situation. Here's where I take a step back.

Speaker 10 Here's where I'm the man that's going to take the last shot.

Speaker 10 What was that like, especially in that first season as you guys were all kind of figuring out what's going on?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 it was so tough. It's so easy to say words.

Speaker 2 I think we all know that. It's easy to say something.

Speaker 2 You know, I'm all in, coach. Okay, what does all in mean? Are you really all in? Because do you understand what it's going to take?

Speaker 2 I think when I look at that first year uh i we think about we all coming from competing versus each other to be the very best in this game we were still competing versus each other even though we were teammates not in a bad way just like all right brian you didn't score sixth straight now i'm about to score sixth straight all right d you didn't did that chris boss like let me get in the mix so we were still we still had that competitiveness amongst each other, trying to learn how to play together and be teammates, right?

Speaker 2 And then after we lost in the finals, that's humbling.

Speaker 2 We all got some humble pie very quickly. And we realized if this was going to work, then we had to do this a little different.

Speaker 2 And so you saw in that second year, you saw us come back a total different team with a total different mindset that we actually started believing the stuff that

Speaker 2 we said we was going to do. But it takes time.
This doesn't just happen when you snap your fingers and say, I want it to happen. It took a little time for it.

Speaker 2 It took us one year to lose and to get humbled in front of the world and everybody to be, if it was podcast all at the time, we would have been the number one topic.

Speaker 10 Oh, we would have said some very mean stuff. Oh, Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 It was some very nasty things said about us at that time. But outside of that, man, we had a goal.
We sacrificed a lot to be able to play together. And so we had to accomplish that.

Speaker 2 It was no other answer. We had to accomplish this goal.
And our goal was to win, not just to get there.

Speaker 2 And so we came back in year two and we started actually believing the things that we said, the mottos that we would say, the things that we would say to the media, the things we would say to each other.

Speaker 2 We started believing it because you start seeing sacrifice amongst guys. We weren't sacrificing sacrificing at first.

Speaker 2 We were hooping and we were very good at it, but it takes sacrifice to especially have that much talent and to be able to have all that work together, right? You got to give up shots.

Speaker 2 You got to give up your body. You got to give up minutes.
You got to do all these things that you don't want to do. And it's easy to say it and it's harder to do.

Speaker 2 And so we had to allow a coach to coach us a little bit, right? We had to allow ourselves to, like, Brian had to allow me to coach him. I had to allow him to coach me.

Speaker 2 It was a lot that we had to learn about each other from that first year to that second year. But ultimately, we needed to win and we wanted to win and we were going to figure it out.
And so we did.

Speaker 10 Is there one play or one game in particular that shows the evolution? Like year two,

Speaker 10 this is when we knew we had it figured out.

Speaker 2 I mean, right away.

Speaker 2 Go to the first game. We figured it out.
Like coming back, think about it.

Speaker 2 We had a long offseason.

Speaker 2 Think about losing the championship and then having a,

Speaker 2 we had an NBA lockout. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That sucked because all you want to do is get right back to it. But we had a long long offseason to think about this.
And so first game was in Christmas Day in Dallas.

Speaker 2 We came, I think we won by like 40 on that day. We came in with the mentality right away in training camp.
The first year in training camp, we were still,

Speaker 18 we were still against each other, right?

Speaker 2 We still was trying to show that we all, we all some bad boys. We came back in that second year and we was trying to become a team.
We were trying to show that we could play together.

Speaker 2 And, you know, I think we all felt it right away. And, you know, give credit to LeBron.
You know, LeBron came back a different player than he was.

Speaker 2 I mean, what we started seeing of LeBron in those next couple years was

Speaker 2 one of the greatest runs we've ever seen when it comes to, you know, professional athlete. And so he came back an even better player that put all of us in our roles and our positions a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Speaking of LeBron, let's just say sometimes he looks like he's injured.
Maybe, I'm not going to say flopping.

Speaker 1 Was there ever a time where you're like, oh, shit, he's actually injured. And then he pops up and he's fine.

Speaker 2 We didn't deal with none of that in Miami.

Speaker 2 He's spraying his angry tie shoes up. We go.

Speaker 1 Okay, but there was never a time like, oh, no, this actually might be the end here.

Speaker 2 He might actually be hurt. Not in Miami.
Okay. No.

Speaker 1 But what about when you're in Cleveland?

Speaker 2 Not in Miami. Okay.
Okay. Not in Miami.

Speaker 1 That's a good answer. Not in Miami.

Speaker 2 I'm focused on the years we've... Not in Miami.
Cleveland, I was a shell of myself. That don't even count.

Speaker 1 Yeah, by the way, you still, even though you weren't, you know, prime D.

Speaker 1 Wade, you still are the best D-Wade in Cleveland Cavaliers history because I think I looked it up and Dean Wade had like five points per game.

Speaker 10 You average 11 points per game. So for the Cavs.

Speaker 2 So that's pretty good. Every time I watch a Cav game and I hear them say D-Wade, it's crazy to me.
A little flashback. Yeah, no, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 I laugh every time that it's another D-Wade, and he's so different from my

Speaker 2 face.

Speaker 1 Yes, very different.

Speaker 2 Yeah, different complexion for sure. Yes.

Speaker 2 But I think it's kind of cool, too, when I watch him. I'm like, oh, it's still a D-Wade in the game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, as a Bulls fan, as a lifelong Michael Jordan fan you've said on the record many times Michael Jordan's your goat he's the best did you have to lie to LeBron about that when he was in Miami we're like I don't know I guess we'll find out you're still playing no we might be conversations you guys don't sit around we weren't talking about him being the goat and seven eight years into into the league like I mean you know what he's arguably he's put together a career that that will make us that will make sports conversations talk forever about who's the goat that's what he's it's not many people that can have that conversation to say that you will argue about who's the goat forever.

Speaker 2 I can't have that conversation. And so what I did is I didn't get a chance to see Michael Jordan play.
I was inspired by Michael Jordan, right? I grew up in Chicago.

Speaker 2 I played the game of basketball because I saw Michael Jordan play the game of basketball.

Speaker 2 And so my vision of it is so different, but I got a chance to watch that guy, LeBron James, up close and personal. And I've never seen a better basketball player in my life.

Speaker 2 You know, and so I think, you know, the GOAT conversation is what does that even mean to you?

Speaker 10 It doesn't mean anything. It's something that we talk about in media.

Speaker 1 That's something you talk about in the middle of summer.

Speaker 2 Everyone talks about it, not just in media.

Speaker 12 Like everybody on the street comes up to you and they'd be like, hey, who's the GOAT?

Speaker 2 You're like, bro, you seven. Yeah.
Like, why does this matter to you? Who's the GOAT? Wait, what do you mean? What do you say? What do you tell them?

Speaker 1 What do you say?

Speaker 11 What they ask me.

Speaker 2 Yeah, seven-year-olds, seven-year-old. I asked them, Well, who's your GOAT? It doesn't matter who's my GOAT.
I am, I'm 43 years old. I grew up in Michael Jordan era.
I played with LeBron James.

Speaker 2 I can pick anyone I want. It doesn't matter.
My vision of playing a game of basketball came from Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 The silhouette, the thing about when it it comes to, I think when it comes to the GOAT, is like, you got to have the perfect height. You got to have the perfect form.

Speaker 2 It's all these things that go on. The GOAT is not just

Speaker 2 the stats that you put on the court and the championships you win when people talk about the GOAT. It's the stories that people tell about you.
It's all these things when it comes to being the GOAT.

Speaker 2 And so that's the era I grew up in. But LeBron James is arguably a GOAT.
He's the GOAT. He's a GOAT to generations.

Speaker 2 But the generation before him, it's very hard for people before him to call him their goat.

Speaker 2 Right? It's just, it's going to be hard. But the generation after that, he's the GOAT to them.

Speaker 2 And so you can't, I'm not going to have an argument with somebody that comes to me and say LeBron James is their GOAT.

Speaker 2 Duh, he's a GOAT. It's multiple GOATs in this game.

Speaker 10 You should start having those arguments.

Speaker 2 They're kind of fun.

Speaker 2 Those arguments are dumb. No, they're very fun.
No, they're not. Watch, let's have it right now.
Ask me who my goat is. Who's your goat? Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 10 Championship rings. That's it.

Speaker 2 Never lost the finals.

Speaker 10 Never went to a game seven in the finals.

Speaker 2 That's it.

Speaker 10 And he was the best player on those teams.

Speaker 1 He's got six of them.

Speaker 2 That makes him your goat. Titles.
Yeah. And I respect that.
And it's over. Conversation over.

Speaker 10 Yeah, who's your thank you for your response? Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 Okay, there we go. Yeah.
Oh, that was a great conversation. That was a great end.
Yeah, that was good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The seven-year-old should just be a bad guy.

Speaker 2 My basketball goes, Michael Jordan. I played the game of basketball because of Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 What about

Speaker 1 how deep have you seen LeBron get into a book?

Speaker 2 i've seen a lot of books in his hand how deep though we talking listen i'm not even judging because i buy books and i read the first five pages and i never i just don't read anymore you know what i love i love the the when someone can make fun of themselves yeah i love the fact that lebron and his team has now marketed him as someone who reads the first book

Speaker 2 yeah i that is to me when you

Speaker 2 can make fun of yourself absolutely people really can they love you absolutely if you can and you take yourself too serious then everyone else is going to take it too serious.

Speaker 2 And so I love the fact that LeBron has now made millions of dollars off everybody talking about him reading one page. Now, I never sat down and watched how many pages he reads.

Speaker 2 I don't care about that. I care about what he does on the court, but I definitely have seen a lot of books in his hand.

Speaker 10 I would just carry on the back of the book. Most people don't even make it past the back just.

Speaker 2 I'm one of them people. I start reading the book and

Speaker 2 I'm going to sleep. I got to listen to my book.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry. I ain't going to make it.

Speaker 10 I read the reviews and I'm like, that's a great book.

Speaker 2 I can write a whole essay off off of what I just read on the back of the book.

Speaker 1 I got some dumb questions for you.

Speaker 2 Wait a minute. That question that you just asked me one day? No, that was actually smart.
These were good questions.

Speaker 10 Very smart questions.

Speaker 1 I know you've spoken on it, but the fake quote in 2017

Speaker 1 that you had Dwayne Wade on Cavs early season struggles. It stinks, but at least I get to go home every night and have my wife eat my butt.
Not true, right? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Who made somebody did do that? That was a fake one. There's a fake one.

Speaker 2 I like that you called attention to it, though. Yeah, you quote-treated it.

Speaker 10 So we're making fake quotes up now?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. I listen to that.
Wait, that's what everyone wants. I'm in on the jokes.
A lot of people say, talk a lot of shit about me.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't be who I am today if I really took it seriously.

Speaker 11 So fake, the quotes fake, but your wife does eat your butt.

Speaker 2 My wife don't eat my butt.

Speaker 1 That was just a podcaster trick right there. Get you in, get yourself.

Speaker 2 No, it's cool. It came out of nowhere.
It was crazy. It definitely was a crazy take, you know, and people ran with it.
I was like, okay, so you're going to be a bad thing. It's a funny quote.

Speaker 1 Fake or not, it's a funny quote.

Speaker 2 It's funny. Listen, I like to laugh.

Speaker 2 It was funny.

Speaker 2 It was a little crazy, but you know what? Ha, ha ha.

Speaker 2 My wife decided to do it. Then she decided to go.

Speaker 2 Leave what we do inside our private home private.

Speaker 1 All right, so I have a private question that hopefully you can give us a little answer on. You went to the Met Gala.
What the hell happens inside?

Speaker 2 Nothing.

Speaker 1 Oh, see, he's not going to answer. You'll talk about eating butt, but but you won't talk about the McGala.

Speaker 2 It's crazy what happens inside there.

Speaker 2 What happens inside? We don't know. We're on the outside.
Have a great time.

Speaker 1 But what is that? What are you bidding on stuff? Is there live music? What is going on?

Speaker 2 There's live music. Okay.
It's some of the coolest people in the world. Yeah, we've seen the pictures, and then we don't.
You have a dinner. It's a fundraiser.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Because each seat is paid for by brands and individuals.

Speaker 2 It's you walk through, depending on the theme of the year, you walk through

Speaker 2 the gallery.

Speaker 1 Any TVs?

Speaker 2 No TVs. The games on?

Speaker 2 No games on. So you're at a table.
That sounds terrible.

Speaker 10 You're eating dinner at a table.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 And then is there an MC?

Speaker 2 Ain't no MC.

Speaker 10 So it's just, there's a band that's playing during dinner?

Speaker 2 The conversation is the band that's playing through dinner.

Speaker 2 It's everybody. These are all these people, like most of these people I only get to see once a year.
Yeah. Right? And I mean, these not, I don't got these people in my Rolodex.

Speaker 2 Like, we're not like kicking it like that, right? Not everybody in there.

Speaker 2 So it's the soundtrack is of everybody happy and excited to be in the cool kids' room together and everyone looking fly as hell. And, you know, and, you know, that's just the sound.

Speaker 2 That's the soundtrack of the room.

Speaker 10 When do they pass around the Illuminati robes and the baby blood?

Speaker 2 Is that dessert course?

Speaker 2 Let's talk about the food.

Speaker 1 Tell me what you ate.

Speaker 2 Well, this year it was five. Every year is different.
Okay. Every year is different.
Obviously, they reach out to, you know, a different chef or different restaurant to upset the plate.

Speaker 2 And some years is maybe some of you fancy and some years is some you may not fancy.

Speaker 2 This year was actually really, really good. One of my wife and I actually

Speaker 2 favorite restaurants. So

Speaker 2 we had some soul in our food this year. Okay.
You know,

Speaker 2 it was about black culture this year, baby. You know, we're going to have some seasoning.
Okay.

Speaker 2 So it was good. It was really, really good.

Speaker 12 And

Speaker 1 I read a story, you didn't try fish until you were 32 years old.

Speaker 2 Is that right? I don't remember the age, but me and fish has had a real. It was just

Speaker 2 over here relationship. You know what I mean? I grew up, I grew up in the inner city.

Speaker 2 Fish wasn't a part of my, what I was able to eat. And then when I got older, people started throwing fish, and it was like the first one was salmon.
And I was like, that smells like the sea. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It tastes, I don't want that. And so me and Fish had a, you stay over there, I stay over here relationship for a long time.
And now I just actually ate Bronzino before I came over. It's pretty good.

Speaker 11 You're having lunch fish now.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I'm having lunch fish.

Speaker 2 With a salad. Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, because you weren't a salad guy.

Speaker 2 No, David Fisdell, shout out to David Fisdell, one of our coaches. He told me one time, he was like, you know what? He's like, I'm pissed off at my parents.

Speaker 2 I grew up, my mom always told me that I had to eat healthy. I had to do all these things to be like, you know, if I wanted to be an athlete one day, he said, you don't do none of those things.

Speaker 2 And you're one of the greatest athletes that I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 I mean, I was terrible

Speaker 2 in my prime. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 That's why my prime didn't last that long because I didn't have

Speaker 2 the things I needed, the nutrients for my body, for my body to continue to perform the way it needed to perform. I was a sugar baby.
Yeah. Give me sugar.
Give me sweets.

Speaker 2 Give me burgers. Give me

Speaker 2 fried chicken.

Speaker 2 I grew up that way, and that's the way I ate through the league for a long time to give me hot dogs before a game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Was there a moment when you were like, oh, shit, I got a part of the time's coming? Yeah, it was too late. It was.

Speaker 2 Positive time was already at the door. Shit.

Speaker 10 Do you think Fizzdale needs to have a conversation with Luca?

Speaker 10 Maybe get Luca on some salads?

Speaker 2 Fizzdale is in Phoenix.

Speaker 10 Yeah, but he should talk to Luca.

Speaker 2 Why? Like, try to.

Speaker 2 Everybody talk about Luca's diet? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Luca's going to figure out what he needs to do. He'll be great.

Speaker 10 I think he'll be great.

Speaker 1 It's one of our favorite things to do. Like, a guy who looks like me be like, you know, Luca's kind of out of shape.

Speaker 2 Right. I mean, Jokic looks like you, and he got three MVPs, right? Yeah, he's in three or four.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 But he did lose weight. Like,

Speaker 2 still looks like you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 his talent and his skills, it don't, everybody don't need to look chiseled. Yeah.
Like that, that is a misconception right there. It's not about how you look.

Speaker 2 It's about what kind of conditioning you're in to be able to obviously play both ends of the floor the way you need to. Yeah.
And so it's not about how you look.

Speaker 2 That's a little overrated. It's a little bit about how you look.
Yeah, everybody don't need abs.

Speaker 1 Well, but when you lose, then it's about how you look.

Speaker 2 That's how you need.

Speaker 2 And no one said nothing about how Jokes looks when he's winning MVP tours. True, nope.

Speaker 2 His body is no different than Lukas if you want to talk about the style of like, we don't see muscles. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 It's more so of are you in peak condition or are you not in peak condition from what people expect from a superstar player yeah and that's that's the biggest conversation it is messed up with how we do it it's like winner winner winner and then the minute you lose you're like fat that's just how it goes

Speaker 2 yeah it's a lot of fat guys that's saying it right whatever fat is to you it's a lot of guys who don't have abs that's saying it i think luca looks good uh yeah sure yeah he looks good it's okay i like if luca walked in here right now i'm sure his body would look way different than you think by watching him on a basketball court with with, you know, out there with jerseys on and all the pads and everything.

Speaker 10 If he walked in here, I'd cross him up.

Speaker 2 I bet

Speaker 2 no, bro. Lucas is so good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd cross him up with an ice cream cone. He wouldn't know what to hit him.

Speaker 2 I think, I think, you know, what's crazy? Like, you know how you see, I think we just saw a video go out of

Speaker 2 Robinson

Speaker 2 in New York of him playing in the summer, and he was going between the legs and shooting trees.

Speaker 2 If somebody's not in the NBA and they just

Speaker 2 doing whatever they want to do, everybody's cold. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then when you got to get in the NBA, you got to play a certain role. You forget that you, all the things that you was working on in the summer, you just got to pick and you just got to roll.

Speaker 2 You just do that.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then you forget.

Speaker 1 I mean, we've talked about it when the whole debate happened, the NFL versus NBA. I'm like, I don't think people fully understand.

Speaker 1 Like, we've had, we've been lucky enough to have some of the NBA combine guys come here and work out. If you watch a guy who's going to be the NBA workout, they do not miss.

Speaker 1 They literally do not miss. No.
And it's like, you think that they're shooting, you know, 50% from the field in a game when they're in practice, they are not missing. Well,

Speaker 2 that's called bright lights. Yeah.
That's called popcorn popping. That's called fans in the arena.
Everything changes when you, I've seen players in practice that was way better than me.

Speaker 2 And we get in the game, and I'm like, bro, you going to help me? It's a whole different beast when you got 12 years old.

Speaker 1 How did you say that about Mario Chalmers?

Speaker 2 I love Mario. I have not.
Listen, LaMario is one of the toughest.

Speaker 2 Mario don't get credit

Speaker 13 the way he should.

Speaker 2 Mario is one of the toughest players I ever played with, one of the biggest shot makers I've ever played with. Mario, to me, always I feel like he got more out of what looks like his ability.

Speaker 2 Like, when you look at Mario, you don't see him doing it. You're like, I don't think this guy's going to be that good, right?

Speaker 2 Because he doesn't, he's not chiseled, he's not hella tall, he's not fast, he don't jump high. Mario still today plays the game of basketball, and Mario is still hooped.
I give Mario a lot of credit.

Speaker 2 He was one of the guys I love playing with. And if I was, if I was a starter team again and you asked me to pick 12 guys, I would pick Mario on my team because he's a fucking winner.

Speaker 1 Okay, so who's your favorite teammate? You can't name like Bosch, LeBron,

Speaker 2 UD, Rialen? But for what? And what? Favorite teammate for what? Because

Speaker 2 you got favorite teammates for different.

Speaker 1 All right, favorite teammate to play with, favorite teammate to hang out with in your entire career.

Speaker 2 Favorite teammate to play with, and I can't pick a guy that I actually like playing with. Is that what you're telling me?

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 You can't pick the usual suspects.

Speaker 1 Because what we're going to do is it's a podcasting trick. I'm going to say favorite teammate to play with, and then you're going to say someone other than LeBron.

Speaker 1 Then we're going to put the clip out.

Speaker 2 No, my master's. Everyone's what's going to be like holy shit

Speaker 2 master's always the same what is it doesn't change Shadanis has them okay all time for your teammate okay and then what about to hang out with him as well to hang out with um no that's always the guys that don't really get no time on the court yeah

Speaker 2 the momo is always the guys that you know is not one of the one of the star guys the guys you can kind of get away with you know get away and just kind of like you know be someone else you don't gotta be that star guy you don't gotta be cool you can just be who you are you know i'm saying so i've had many favorite teammates that you would never know their names.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know their names. Yeah, I mean, my favorite teammates go back to college, man.
Like, you know, I got guys in college that you, you know, you won't know their names.

Speaker 2 They're my favorite teammates. I still talk to them to this day, you know, in our final four-run, guys that you will not remember.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 10 On that final four-run, did you have, did you, at that moment, have the confidence in yourself and the belief that you were going to go on to do all these great things?

Speaker 10 Or was it that moment that kind of woke you up and you're like, yeah, I can be one of the best?

Speaker 2 No, you know what, man? I didn't think that way. Like, I mean,

Speaker 2 I knew I was good at what I was good at, but I always

Speaker 2 just had the mentality that, like,

Speaker 2 I never thought that far ahead. You know, I'm an everyday person.
You know, it was just to me, I was just, I was always about getting better every day.

Speaker 2 Now, I knew I can compete with anybody because I wasn't afraid of anyone. Once you take away getting dunked on, shooting an airball and getting crossed over, what else is it?

Speaker 2 After that, it ain't nothing else embarrassing in the game of basketball. Like, everyone's going to score on you.
Right.

Speaker 2 And so once I was realized, okay, these are the only things that really people are embarrassed about. All right.
Well, take that away. Then let's just hoop.
And so I was never, it's basketball.

Speaker 2 I'm not afraid of you. Now you can score on me.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Like my brothers could score on me. My dad can score on me.
So like I just kind of simplified the game of basketball. So I knew I can compete with anyone.

Speaker 2 It was just about getting the opportunity for me. And once I got my opportunity, I showed up every time.

Speaker 10 And that's all. So you weren't thinking at that moment, like one day, 15, 20 years in the future, I'm going to have a really, really weird looking statue of myself built.

Speaker 2 No, but I knew I was going to be great.

Speaker 2 It goes back to,

Speaker 2 I got a high school yearbook quote when I was 17 years old. And they asked me, you know, in 20 years, you know, what would you be?

Speaker 2 And I said, I'm going to retire as one of the greatest that will play the game of basketball. I said that at 17.
And I actually retired at 37 years old. I retired 20 years later.

Speaker 10 That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 Actually, pretty damn cool. Yeah.
So I retired as one of the greatest to play the game of basketball. Now, whatever number, that's.

Speaker 11 Well, at least in a 75.

Speaker 2 But thank you very much. So I did retire as one of the greatest.
So at 17 years old, I had the outlook. I just didn't know how I was going to get there.
But I got there by my work every day.

Speaker 2 And also, too, just by the people, man. You really got to, you got to find people along this journey.

Speaker 2 You got to connect to them. You got to hold on tight to them.
The people that's there for you. Like God puts people in your path.

Speaker 2 You have to recognize who these people are. I recognize those people throughout my journey and I stay connected to them, you know what I mean, to help me get to that next level.

Speaker 2 And so I knew that I wanted to be that, but it was the work every day.

Speaker 2 And it was the recognizing of, you know, and being honest and looking in the mirror at myself when I wasn't that good, when I wasn't doing the things that I was supposed to do, really holding myself accountable to that, to being one of the greatest ever played a game in 20 years.

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Speaker 11 Okay, back to Dwayne Wait.

Speaker 10 Can we talk about the statue? Yeah. Is that okay? So when they unveiled the statue, what was your initial thought?

Speaker 2 I have a statue. Yeah.
Great statue. Yeah.
Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
That is a statue.

Speaker 2 I wasn't thinking like you guys were thinking. I wasn't thinking like the photo that went out and everybody liked to say.

Speaker 2 I wasn't thinking about that, guys. Like, come on, man.
Technically, it's a statue.

Speaker 10 It goes back to us looking at Luke and being like, wow, that guy's out of shape.

Speaker 10 We're like, look how bad that guy's statue is. The guy that got a statue for being great for so long.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Listen, I get it.
Like, give me all the jokes. Actually, some of them were fucking hilarious, by the way.
Like, some of them, I still, I saved them in my phone.

Speaker 2 I was like, I got to come back and laugh at this one later.

Speaker 18 But no, I wasn't thinking about that.

Speaker 2 I was, you know, once again, my mind goes beyond that. My mind goes to my kids.
My mind goes to like, you know, small kids from the inner city of Chicago. I go to all that.

Speaker 2 Now, you guys have a job to do.

Speaker 2 You got a job to do. You got to do it.
Your job to do is to make sure that you get as many clicks as possible. And my statue became something that you guys can talk about that will get you clicks.

Speaker 2 Yes. Have at it.

Speaker 1 It's hard to do the. I feel like the statues fail like the Ronaldo statues.

Speaker 2 No, they're tough. Yeah, they're tough.

Speaker 2 I keep telling people is I was there alone, like the whole process, right?

Speaker 2 Like it was an incredible process but from clay to bronze it's two totally different things it's two totally different statues from clay to bronze and so in clay I was like oh yeah this is this is gonna go down the history as one of the greatest statues ever

Speaker 2 in bronze it looks way different it my everything is hardened right so my

Speaker 2 it's way different in clay than it is in bronze. It's intense.
It's real intense. Yeah, so it was some very strong like jaw structures.
And, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 And then too, like, everyone gets to look up at me with my mouth open and yelling with these strong. Like, I trust me, I understand, but in clay, it's soft.
Yeah. Right? It looks a little different.

Speaker 2 It looks, I look a little bit more like me. And then you put it in bronze.
And then obviously, and I was trying to educate people.

Speaker 2 I said, also, you put it in bronze and it has to, it has to stand strong in Miami forever. That is an extra dip in bronze.
That is an extra this. It's an extra that.
It's even harder. Right.

Speaker 2 It's even darker.

Speaker 2 And so I think my first reaction, once I got to reaction, was, damn, it's darker than I thought it was was going to be. Because every statue has different complexions of Brian's complexions.

Speaker 2 But because mine needs to weather the storm, mine had to be a little bit more. It had to get a little bit more care on it in a sense.
And so it was definitely darker than I wanted it to be.

Speaker 2 But like the expression that I wanted it to have, it had the expression. It just.

Speaker 2 My cheekbones were a little stronger. Yeah, it is very cool, though.

Speaker 2 It's an awesome honor to have a statue, to know that you meant so much to one organization, one city, really, that they're like we want you to stand here for forever yeah i mean you could put everybody that plays sports in one room to have a statue and yeah you can't fill this room up no so it's an elite class yeah and and listen i i think as long as people are making bronze statues it's going to be hard to capture it to look the way that everybody's going to want it to look someone is going to figure it out where it's going to look exact one day but it is a really tough process and it it it it didn't hurt me that everyone was talking jokes i just the people who worked so hard on it man i hear you the families, that to me, I was just like, but also too, like, once you put your work out there, it's open for interpretation for people to say what they wanted to say.

Speaker 2 And people said a lot that they wanted to say. They did.
But ultimately,

Speaker 2 what I wanted, and it's still happening, I still get at it every day of a family, a kid, an individual, they go and they take a photo at the statue. I was actually there one night.

Speaker 2 Here's a story about it. I was there one night when I was in Miami.

Speaker 2 late night to go see the statue for myself away from everyone, just me and my crew. And it's this, it was like three in the morning, and it was a guy who walked up to see the statue.

Speaker 2 Now, mind you, I'm behind the statue, I'm looking at all the details. He's not even at the statue yet, he's walking up, and he's like, Oh man, they my man up.

Speaker 13 And so, I come around the statue, I said, Bro, did you even look at the statue?

Speaker 2 Or are you going off of everything you heard? Like, come here, let's take a let's take a look at this statue for a minute. But he just automatically walked up with his own.

Speaker 2 What did he say when he saw you?

Speaker 1 Like, that's such a funny thing. Oh, the guy would be like, Wait, does Dwayne Weed just stand at his statue all day telling people to look at it closer?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm like, hey, come get a better. You know what? Matter of fact, how about you look from up top?

Speaker 2 Everybody's looking from down here, right? But no, he, you know, he took a couple steps back and was like, oh, man, I didn't.

Speaker 11 No, you did.

Speaker 2 I heard you. I heard you weren't here.

Speaker 6 It's so funny.

Speaker 2 It's all good. Like, I just want to, if I lived in Miami, I'd just pop up at the statue anytime.
Yeah. Hell yeah.
Like, say so. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Me and you did sit there, like, say so. But it's all love, man.

Speaker 1 So, so we mentioned offhand there, but

Speaker 1 75, when they did the 75th anniversary in the top 75 players all time, you were named on that list. Incredible accomplishment.

Speaker 2 One of my best accomplishments. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How did it feel to be named on that list? And then when you get everyone together, what was that room like? And was MJ talking shit?

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 yes.

Speaker 2 I remember being a kid watching the top 50.

Speaker 2 It was in Cleveland when they did it. It was the leather jackets.
They had the leather jackets. I remember being a kid and watching some of my favorite players all be on the top 50.
And I thought,

Speaker 2 one of the coolest moments in the NBA to be in that list. And I didn't know when they would ever do another list.
All right. And so I didn't know if it would be 100 years or whatever.

Speaker 2 But when they said they was going to do top 75.

Speaker 2 Of course, I want to be in that. Now, you got to understand, it's 25 years go by, and they only could put 25 more players.

Speaker 2 And it's not 25 new players because some guys got left off of the original 50 list. So let's say it's about 15 to 18 spots of new players in 25 years and you're one of them.

Speaker 2 I mean, to me, individually, that was one of the most, that was one of the dopest moments of my individual life.

Speaker 2 Like, I didn't go out to play as an individual and I didn't go off all the individual awards. Like, I wish I would have grabbed a couple on the way, but that was one that I tattooed on my chest.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 but you really didn't understand what it really, really meant. You just knew that you was getting this honor until we all got to All-Star Weekend in Cleveland and we all walked in the room.

Speaker 2 And when you walked in the room, you saw the gods of the game.

Speaker 2 You don't see the gods of the game. You may see somebody all-star weekend.
You may, you don't see everybody together. And so you walk in, you're like, Karine,

Speaker 2 Oscar, Bird, Magic. Like you looking at the gods of the game.
You like, oh, I'm one of them. Oh, this is really cool.
Now, now you see everybody like.

Speaker 2 All of us out there smiling ear to ear now because now we in this room. And so we in this room.
We all get to take the photo together.

Speaker 2 everyone's not there now my east 75 players are not there it was 76 because there's a tie too i don't know if everybody know that 76 players on the top 75.

Speaker 10 i didn't know did they say who tied

Speaker 2 no okay they didn't say you know but it's 70 76 i don't know i don't know

Speaker 2 yeah you know i was i was thinking i don't know neither but jordan wasn't in that room okay yeah jordan he he was uh actually he jordan flew in for we didn't know mj was coming we didn't know who was going to be there when we took that photo in that room but that room right there let you know that you was one of them boys.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Can nobody tell me nothing out to been in that room, right? Because when the 100 would come around, I would be back in that room.
Yeah. Right.

Speaker 2 So, but we all are waiting to go out, to go out and get our, you know, wave our little hand and get our love. And that's when MJ walked in.

Speaker 2 And, you know, you've heard multiple stories about MJ coming in and like how he snuck in like the black cat and just kind of snuck up on everybody and started talking shit immediately. Right.

Speaker 2 Right away. Right at magic.

Speaker 2 And I, you, once again, you can go back and look at the clip, you can see my face. I was like,

Speaker 2 oh, this is happening. Like, Michael and Magic is talking shit.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, what? I'm privy to this conversation. I'm a kid who grew up watching these guys.
And like, you know, obviously, these are some of the greatest ever play. And I'm now a part of this.

Speaker 2 I get to be behind the scenes of this. And Mike come in and he's right at him.
And they was serious. It was no games with Michael.
He really was like, get your sneaks, mace them up

Speaker 2 right now.

Speaker 2 And Magic looked around and saw them cameras, like, well, you lucky these cameras. I'll tell you something, right?

Speaker 2 It was just one of those moments where he's like, two of the greatest ever is talking shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's incredible.

Speaker 2 It was incredible, man. But obviously, they're obviously best of friends.
But that was the moment for me. And I said it, I'm on Reggae Sand.
That was the moment for me. I was like, oh, I made it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I'm in heaven.
I would say so. I don't know if I'm going to heaven in regular life, but I know in basketball life, I'm in heaven.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's pretty surreal. It's pretty insane.

Speaker 2 Incredible. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So

Speaker 1 you are going to be on Prime Video. So Amazon Prime, you're doing the NBA show next year.

Speaker 1 Give us some analysts talk.

Speaker 2 Who's going to win the title? Some analysts talk. Yeah, some analyst talk.

Speaker 11 We can't do that.

Speaker 2 That makes an analyst talk because I can tell you who I think is going to win the final.

Speaker 1 Yeah, give it a try.

Speaker 11 Get real grandiose. Yeah,

Speaker 11 really explain it to us like we're five years old.

Speaker 1 Who's going to win the finals?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I'm going to start there for you.

Speaker 1 No, that's a bad start. You got to give us some.

Speaker 2 I'm just telling you the the truth because no one knows.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I will say,

Speaker 2 if I had to pick right now, because y'all are forcing me to pick right now.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think the best team is OKC.

Speaker 2 I think,

Speaker 2 but it's not about the best team. We beat Dallas in a year where they were the best team when we won the championship.
If I had to pick right now, I would say Minnesota Timberwolves won the final

Speaker 2 right now. Ant?

Speaker 12 And

Speaker 2 it's the aura of Ant. Yeah.
And

Speaker 2 it's the way, well, it's the way that the aura of that young man, the way that you see it filters into everyone that he's playing with.

Speaker 2 That right there, when you get to that finals, you need that.

Speaker 2 You need to believe in somebody that wholeheartedly like that. And I'm not saying these other guys don't.
I mean, listen, any one of these teams can obviously win.

Speaker 2 There's four teams, and they all can win. It's going to be historic whoever wins.
But from what I've experienced by being in the finals,

Speaker 2 if they can keep this up, what that young man, the way that he can,

Speaker 2 the way he puts

Speaker 2 his Ant-Man on the game,

Speaker 2 no one else does that. No one else goes to that level like him when he goes to that level.
And these guys are very good.

Speaker 2 I mean, you got Brunson who is fourth quarter, clutch time, money, Shay, MVP, right? You got these guys who are at that level, but when you talk about who got it, who got that sauce,

Speaker 2 Ant-Man just got that sauce. Now, they got to keep it up because we all know those first eight games mean nothing.
The first eight wins mean nothing. You got to get to eight more of them.

Speaker 2 And so who knows if he's going to get there? But right now, if you ask me, I'm going to say he got the sauce that you need to get to that finals.

Speaker 10 Okay, so counterpoint, I don't hate to take, but last year I would say he also had the sauce. Did he just get the sauce this offseason? Like something changed about him, right?

Speaker 2 No, he grew up a little bit. I mean, it's only one year difference, but it's a big difference.
He got to experience it. He was in the Western Conference Finals last year.

Speaker 2 He played against the the guys who went to the finals. That's a different summer than someone who lost in the second round or the first round when you lose in that space.

Speaker 2 And so you see someone, you see a mature player.

Speaker 2 He had the sauce. He's had the sauce his whole life.
I'm sure when he was, he had let you know when he was five, he had the sauce.

Speaker 2 But once you lose in the way that he lost, you watch the team that you lost to go off to the finals and all those things, it's a different mentality that you come back with.

Speaker 2 A-Man has come back and put his spirit into the guys. And you can see it when they're they're playing, right? And he's a leader of that team.

Speaker 2 And so if I'm choosing, maybe a little biased, because I see a little, you know, maybe I see a little reflection sometime. That's what I thought.
Yeah. Yeah, maybe a little biased.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? As a young guy, I mean, I won mine at 24. He's 23.
You know, I want to see somebody come and take it. But

Speaker 2 I think he got what is needed when you get to that stage.

Speaker 2 As you understand, you heard Shay say the other day. Game seven, he was like, I was nervous.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You could feel it in the first quarter.

Speaker 13 You're supposed to be.

Speaker 2 You have never felt these emotions before yeah that is the second round seven game

Speaker 2 you got to keep going yeah you got to get to these these it gets it gets hot listen you get more nervous as it goes on and so i think someone like and is just i think he's he's ready for that step and for that stage and that stage them lights get even brighter that popcorn get even it smells even better in that yeah it gets even richer in that arena that crowd get even louder and so to win the the ability to be able to pump that confidence in those other guys is what is going to be.

Speaker 2 And OKC has what I think is the best team overall from top to bottom in this. But it's not just about that when you get to

Speaker 2 this place that they're hopefully going. His defense is so good.

Speaker 10 Something about Ant that reminds me a little bit of your game.

Speaker 10 He seems to be the type of rare player that when he's playing in front of an opposing audience, when he's on the road, he feeds off the crowd just as much on the road as he does at home.

Speaker 10 Right? Like he brings his confidence to them.

Speaker 10 He brings it to the game where he hears everybody booing, hears everybody yelling at him, screaming, and he elevates his game. He's like, I want to shut them up.
You have to love it.

Speaker 10 Just as bad as he wants to make the fans at home cheer. Yeah, you have to love it.

Speaker 2 And at this time, you got to actually, you got to love playing on the road more than you love playing at home. It's easy to play at home.

Speaker 2 I'm not saying you're going to win everyone, but you're going to get more help. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 The role players. You'll get more help.

Speaker 2 On the road, you're not going to get as much help, bro. And you know what? So what? This is your response.
It's your responsibility. Everybody looking at you.
You the man.

Speaker 2 You You the one with all the commercials.

Speaker 2 You the one with all the attention. They ask, they all looking at you, and you gotta, you gotta love that.
And so I personally love that. I love playing on the road.
I love going to win on the road.

Speaker 2 We won our first finals on the road in game six. I had 36.
I love that. Put me in a position that is the most uncomfortable and watched me come out smelling like roses.

Speaker 2 And so if you don't have that mentality, you're not winning that championship. I don't care how close you, you don't care if you go up 2-0.

Speaker 2 You got to love winning on the road or it's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 Was that your favorite? Because we always talk about this, like best sports sounds. And one of the best sports sounds is when a road player, like you can feel them take the soul

Speaker 2 of the fans.

Speaker 11 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Where that like, like hitting a big shot on the road and that like scream, gasp is so, it's something about it.

Speaker 2 It's Folgus Crystal in the morning. It's a sweet

Speaker 2 coffee in the morning. Yeah,

Speaker 1 the whole stadium knows like this guy just beat us.

Speaker 2 Oh, it's incredible. Yeah.
It's nothing better than that. It's nothing better than when you walk out and you got the opposing fans looking looking at you with their, they just respect you, right?

Speaker 2 They end up cheering for you. It's nothing better than turning them into a fan of viewers.
Yeah. Right.
And that's what, that's the kind of aura that Ant has.

Speaker 2 He has the aura where you hate him, but when he gets done, you're going to love him. Yeah.
Because you can do nothing but respect it. Yeah.
And you know, along the way.

Speaker 2 And so, yeah, it's nothing better than that.

Speaker 10 He's a very fun player. I got one more question for you.
I think it's more of a statement. You might be a magician or a witch because of your pump fake.

Speaker 10 Are you aware of how good your pump fake was when you were a player?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I see people flying all the time.

Speaker 10 And you would do it constantly from the three-point line, and people guarded you.

Speaker 10 I think there's a stat out there that shows that people guarded you closer than any other player in the NBA from the three-point arc when they were playing defense.

Speaker 2 Right?

Speaker 10 Now, I'm not bringing this up to trash your three-point percentage, but it was like 29%

Speaker 10 career, which isn't, it's not a great three-point percentage, but they guarded you so close on the perimeter like they expected you to make it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because they didn't want me to touch the ball.

Speaker 10 Was it just like, no matter where he is on the court,

Speaker 10 we're going to guard him as closely as possible?

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, because here's the thing. If I'm not a three-point shooter and you play off me, when I get the ball, I'm coming at you downhill.
You cannot stop me.

Speaker 2 So your goal is to make sure that I don't touch the ball.

Speaker 2 And so it was a stat when I played in my prime years where I think I was up there like with Ray Allen and those guys when it came to the defense trying not to allow me to get the ball at the three-point line.

Speaker 2 I was up there with the top three-point shooters and I was the worst by far three-point shooter.

Speaker 2 But some guys, you just do not want them to get the the ball in their hands because that's the rhythm for them. And it wasn't my job to shoot threes.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Like, you're Michael Jordan, he had a quote where he talked about, he's like, I don't want to be a great three-point shooter because it takes away what I'm great at and what I love about my game and the game because it makes me stay on the perimeter searching for threes.

Speaker 2 No, I am downhill. I am trying to put you in the basket.

Speaker 2 I have to get in the paint so I can get my teammates shots. That is my job.
My job ain't to sit out there like, ooh, ooh, ooh. That wasn't my responsibility.
And so, but I did find respect.

Speaker 2 I did look at the respect that I got amongst my peers that knew I'm not making this shot, but 29% of the time, but you guarding me like I'm Ray Island, one of the greatest three-point shooters ever.

Speaker 2 That's respect right there. So now I'm going to back cut your ass.

Speaker 10 Yeah, and the pump fake was great too. Yeah,

Speaker 2 I stole that from Sam Cassell.

Speaker 11 Oh, Sam Cassell.

Speaker 2 I stole it from Sam Cassell. I just added my own little mix to it, but I got it from Sam Cassell.

Speaker 10 So how do you steal a pump fake from somebody?

Speaker 2 Well, I watched him do it and I was like, he's coming up the court hella slow.

Speaker 2 It's the slowest pump fake ever. And everyone's jumping and going for it.

Speaker 2 So because I wasn't a three-point shooter and because I will come downhill at a player, the defense natural reaction is to stop you from scoring.

Speaker 2 The closer you get to the basket, the more you want to stop someone from scoring. I'm really going to pump fake you the closer I get in.
And so everyone's job is to jump.

Speaker 2 close out jump if i if i get create space and i get you a step off your job is to recover how do you recover jump and so for me it's just it's the law i understand the body i understand like all right you got it you're gonna come back and i'm gonna do this and you have to contest my shot you don't want me to score so i'm gonna give you this you're gonna jump i'm gonna act like you did something to me and i'm gonna go to the free throw line yeah so to me it was like it's it's all about you got to have patience you know i talked about this and i talk about this all the time a lot of players when they get closer to the rim they lose patience that's when you got to have your most patience the closer you get because the defense has less patience right when they When you are in scoring, when you're in scoring position, the defense gets a little erratic and they want to strip you or block your shot.

Speaker 2 That's when I'm really going to hit you with these slow-ass pump fakes. Yeah.
Show his reference speed. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who's got the best pump fake all time?

Speaker 2 Me?

Speaker 10 Sam Young is actually the answer. Do you remember his pump fake?

Speaker 2 What makes it Pittsburgh?

Speaker 2 Do you remember him? Do you know who I'm talking about?

Speaker 2 How do you say that, though? What makes you say him? If you ever want to say that? Because he got the most free throws off?

Speaker 1 No, he just. He looked the best.
He would go all the way up on his tippy toes. He'd have guys running through the crowd.

Speaker 9 And you know, I don't think he even played that.

Speaker 1 That's like the GOAT conversation.

Speaker 2 Whoever you think is who it is.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I'll show you some

Speaker 11 of them.

Speaker 10 You'll see. Would you ever see it?

Speaker 1 Yours was very nice, but Sam Young.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 13 He had people jumping past him.

Speaker 1 He would go all the way up on his tippy toes.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I guess.

Speaker 10 Would you talk shit to people if they jump?

Speaker 1 If you're like, got him?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Listen, it was game plans. You would hear

Speaker 2 the whole coaching staff on the opposite team say, do not jump for his pump fake. And I'd be like, you know, you're going to jump for my next pump.

Speaker 2 Because it's in your mind now. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 2 Now they have, they have made it worse for you because they're now telling you, don't jump for my pump fake. It's coming.

Speaker 2 You don't know when, but I'm about to hit you with these three jumpers in your face and you're not going to like that. So what you're going to do eventually? You're going to try to stop me.

Speaker 2 That means you got to jump. Because if you don't jump, I'm just dotting your eye.
So eventually you're going to jump and I'm going to get you.

Speaker 2 I used to tell people all the time, I don't go and get you. You know that, right? Because if you don't, that's a bucket.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 10 And you got to let them know, too, if they jump and you drive past. Oh, yeah, I got you.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, see you. Um, all right, I got one last question:

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Speaker 1 This has been so much fun. The Larry O'Brien Trophy here.
Awesome conversation. We'd love to have you on anytime.
You're a recurring guest now.

Speaker 1 So when we ask you to come on, you have to come on, just so you know. Okay.
That you signed something when you walked in the door.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you read it, but it's basically whenever we want you on, you have to come on our show.

Speaker 2 It's not like my wife. Yeah, well,

Speaker 2 I'm not going to eat your butt.

Speaker 1 No, my last question is, we were talking about it before we started taping. We have a mutual friend, Tom Creen.
Obviously, you're closer to him than we are, but we're fairly close with him.

Speaker 1 We've had him on many times. Really love him.
Was there a moment when Tom Creen at Marquette

Speaker 1 like instilled to you? You talked about the Shaq confidence. Did Tom Crean have a moment where he was like, hey, you're going to be special? And like, you have an opportunity now.

Speaker 1 Do you remember that moment or that sequence where he kind of gave you that confidence of like, oh, this is different. It's not just college basketball.
It's going to be something more. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 He's one of the most important people in my development. In my development as the player that you guys got a chance to see, Tom Creen.
Tom Creen was on my ass

Speaker 2 to a level of tears coming down a lot of times because I didn't understand why he was on me so hard. But he obviously saw something in me that

Speaker 2 I didn't know was there. But I was talking about one of the things Tom Creen taught me and which made me a very good basketball player.
And it was my ability to get so low on picking rolls.

Speaker 2 And he, he, we drilled this over and over. We drilled anytime I touched the paint, you better dunk it.
Like,

Speaker 2 this was my summer workouts with Tom Cream to the point where like, you know, I was young. I was

Speaker 2 leave, I get kicked out of practice or throw the ball and walk out of practice. And he'd come right down and.

Speaker 2 get your ass back up here. Like he was on me.
And I was, I was, I was young. I was going through a lot of, a lot of things in my family life when I went to college.

Speaker 2 And I wasn't mature enough yet. I had a lot of things going on, but he would not allow me to be less than what he thought that I was going to be.
He thought I was going to be great.

Speaker 2 The year before I entered the draft, I told everybody I was leaving to enter in the draft because

Speaker 2 I didn't want to work.

Speaker 2 We were running lines and all this shit. And I was like, I'm out.
I'm going to the NBA.

Speaker 2 He flew in at like three o'clock in the morning, called me down to the office and scared the living shit out of me. But what he pretty much told me is that you didn't come here to be average.

Speaker 2 I'm not allowing you to go to the NBA to be in the second round or to to be late first round you came here to be great and great has been in the lottery and so if we ain't you ain't there you ain't going nowhere type you know like father figure he was a father figure for me at that time and i respected him obviously you know i stayed one more year and i went number five right um and so he was just somebody who was on me And he saw something in me that I didn't even know was inside.

Speaker 2 He pulled things out of me that I didn't even know could be pulled out of you. You know what I'm in a sense? And so, you know, I sit here and I see him not coaching coaching.

Speaker 2 And I see, and I, and I, and I, and I look at that, and I see so many kids who not get an opportunity because they're not getting coached by him to get the greatness pulled out of them. Yep.

Speaker 2 And that's the thing. Just because you have it in you don't mean that you're going to be able to showcase it to the world.
You got to know how to do that.

Speaker 2 You got to have somebody that can see that in you and could pull it out of you. Tom Cream pulled all of my greatness out, and then you guys got a chance to experience it.

Speaker 2 But it happened in Marquette in that small-ass gym in Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 And I give him and our coaching staff a lot of credit for not allowing me just to be good. And they forced me to be great.

Speaker 11 That's awesome. He is the best.

Speaker 10 And Eddie coached Ant too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And he coached Ant. He coached Ant.
He coached Victor La Depot.

Speaker 18 He coached

Speaker 2 some dynamic guards, obviously other guys as well. But when Ant goes back, you go back to Ant-Man's press conference when he decided to go to Georgia.
And they asked him why you go to Georgia.

Speaker 2 He said, because Tom Crean coached Victor La Depot and DeWayne Wade. That's why I'm going to Georgia because he's going to get the best out of me, right?

Speaker 2 Just like he got the best out of two of the best two guards that played. When Vic was healthy, Vic was a Vic was a bad boy.
And so give him credit, man.

Speaker 2 Give Coach Screen credit for having some of the greatest players to play the game.

Speaker 13 And a great guy, too.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Amazing guy.

Speaker 2 Amazing guy.

Speaker 1 Well, Dwayne, thank you so much for stopping by. This has been awesome.
We also will promise I had someone looking up, like doing a prep sheet for me.

Speaker 1 And I guess our social team has spelled your name wrong every single time they've posted anything on our Twitter. So we're going to make sure we get it right this time.

Speaker 2 It's all good, man.

Speaker 1 Every single time.

Speaker 6 Every single time. Is that memes?

Speaker 2 Yeah, memes. I'm so used to it at this point.
At the end of the day,

Speaker 2 Dwayne Wade is getting attention. Even if it's the one before the A or the one with the Y, it depends.
Would you sue D-Wade?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Just screw that up. I worked hard for D-Wade, so just call me D-Wade.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I've screwed it up too.

Speaker 11 Memes, you got this.

Speaker 2 I'm going to get cremated, but when I do leave this earth, I'm going to make sure that both Dwayne's is represented on my way out.

Speaker 2 It ain't going to just be the Y before the A. It's going to be the A before the Y too.

Speaker 2 He had a great great run, too.

Speaker 10 People, 100 years from now, when they're looking you up online and their brain ship that they got or whatever, they might misspell it.

Speaker 2 Right, so you want to make sure that we got them both.

Speaker 1 So we're actually helping you.

Speaker 2 We're doing the work. We got two brands.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Just don't call you Dean Wade. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Let him have his own brand. Let him

Speaker 2 call him D-Wade neither.

Speaker 2 Don't give my nickname away. All right, underwear confidence.
Definitely not. Call him Dean.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 Well, thanks so much. We really appreciate it, man.

Speaker 2 Appreciate you guys taking a moment, man.

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Okay, Fire Fest of the week.

Speaker 2 Whoa!

Speaker 1 Whoa, what are we wearing, boys?

Speaker 9 Kid it up.

Speaker 1 We have the brand new U.S. soccer jerseys.
Thanks to our friends at Truly Hard Seltzer, the official hard seltzer of U.S. soccer.
The official hard seltzer, a pardon my take.

Speaker 10 You know, me, I'm a footy fan.

Speaker 14 We look good.

Speaker 4 They did a good job with the numbers, too. I know why PFT got 35, but I got some 35.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's good. Are you, Hank? 17.

Speaker 9 I like this one.

Speaker 1 Oh, Max, you got 20. Uh, men's summer jerseys truly hooked us all up with custom jerseys.
We'll be rocking them all summer, and we'll be drinking truly all summer. All right, Fire Fest.

Speaker 11 We got our guy oldie in the booth.

Speaker 2 Uh,

Speaker 1 so oldie's here. We got something that we taped uh this week that's going to be out in a couple weeks oldie you smell so bad

Speaker 1 i almost threw up smelling your armpit

Speaker 6 it's absolutely disgusting and i truly apologize but i mean i i tried i tried to spray i tried to think but it just i can't shower yeah i did i shower after the thing we filmed have you used uh dove men's body care i sprayed that on before yeah he did i watched him spray it on and then uh is there any truth that people are calling you moldy

Speaker 6 Oh, I hope not.

Speaker 9 I know, it's just me.

Speaker 9 It's just me.

Speaker 6 I'd rather take the M out and throw the G back in for Goldie.

Speaker 2 I'll take Goldie Oldie all day.

Speaker 6 All right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it's bad, dude. Max, take a whiff of it.
Take a whiff of it for the people on YouTube.

Speaker 13 Oldie, also slide this way.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 Take the shirt off. One big whiff.

Speaker 10 Skin the skin.

Speaker 1 I legitimately almost threw up. Give me 10 seconds.

Speaker 6 I'll just give him a normal sniff without a blow or a plus the blow.

Speaker 2 No, he's been doing this.

Speaker 1 He's been walking around and

Speaker 1 putting his arm over his head and then blowing the scent at people.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like a fan.

Speaker 6 Yeah, like one of those things at the house that scent that comes out. Yeah, so you also

Speaker 2 get the armpit.

Speaker 6 So, so, so.

Speaker 2 I didn't lift my arm yet. I haven't.

Speaker 14 No, but I'm just prefacing how bad this is going to be.

Speaker 10 Max, do you think it's bad because it's the armpit plus his breath?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I want to solve Big Cat's. No, I'm not going to.

Speaker 14 I saw Big Cat's reaction, and he literally

Speaker 2 cry. I tried.

Speaker 6 Can I just do a breath? Look, my breath is. Try my breath, and then we'll do the arms.

Speaker 2 Talk to Mike Holdie. Why don't we?

Speaker 2 Oh, dude.

Speaker 2 That's nice.

Speaker 1 Max, give it one big whiff.

Speaker 6 I gotta do.

Speaker 6 Just one big whiff. Stay strong.

Speaker 10 Come on, you got this, Max. I was seeing stars.

Speaker 2 It is. It's like.

Speaker 15 You gotta do Hank Joe out. Smelling salt.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Hank outs do it after. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, oh, dude.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 1 you know what? It's like.

Speaker 2 It smells so bad.

Speaker 14 I actually just like

Speaker 14 gagged in my mouth.

Speaker 10 What's the worst thing you guys have ever smelled?

Speaker 1 Maybe that.

Speaker 1 Go get Hank.

Speaker 14 Go get Hank.

Speaker 4 We did a

Speaker 2 stinky class

Speaker 4 on the case race a couple years ago.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 I wanted to die.

Speaker 10 It was like Zaz Pubes. Yeah, it was smoking.

Speaker 2 And like a smoker. Burned hairs.

Speaker 4 And like, yeah,

Speaker 4 that was as bad as it's ever been. That's pretty bad, yeah.
Anything when you're hungover. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 New York City when you're hungover is

Speaker 2 extremely summer. You know what it is?

Speaker 10 It's the hot trash. Yeah.
The hot trash of New York is the worst. All right.

Speaker 1 Give him a good whiff. Give him a good whiff.

Speaker 11 Hank, you have to do a good whiff.

Speaker 2 You got to really take it in. Hit him.
Yeah. Hit him.

Speaker 1 Hit him with it. Hold on.

Speaker 17 Okay.

Speaker 1 You ready? Yeah. Smell it.
Get yourself in there.

Speaker 2 Wait, wait, Oli, let me get a hit.

Speaker 2 Oh, Oh no.

Speaker 2 Oh no.

Speaker 2 Let me take a hit. Let me take a hit.
I gotta smell this.

Speaker 10 Oh, I gotta smell this.

Speaker 2 I gotta try.

Speaker 9 This is some good podcasting.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God, everyone. Look at it.
Go watch the YouTube. Subscribe to the YouTube.

Speaker 14 Hank literally just puked for people wondering. Like, actual pew.

Speaker 1 I have tears in my eyes. Three, two, one.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's so bad, dude. I'll take another hit.

Speaker 2 Dude, Hank, some pew.

Speaker 2 Go make me pew.

Speaker 2 Oh, my.

Speaker 2 Okay, I'm good. All right, get back in the booth.
Oldie. That was awesome.

Speaker 2 I can't believe it. How do you smell? How does that smell happen?

Speaker 10 It's just a combination of all of that.

Speaker 1 How does that happen in real life?

Speaker 2 great white north

Speaker 4 hank you okay yeah well i think i'm gonna peek well like at first i mean it was quick but i was like oh it's just b o and then no it's more has it has some it's b o plus

Speaker 2 it is it is it's b plus

Speaker 4 uh hank you're firefest it's bo max yeah nothing nothing crazy the ai debacle uh

Speaker 4 big cat posted the video on twitter yeah

Speaker 4 and he tagged me and it just said is this real at honey is it You're cute.

Speaker 1 Your puke breath is kind of cute.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Puke voice.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's kind of cute.

Speaker 4 A little raspy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's just throwing up back here.

Speaker 4 23 million views and every, you know, because you tagged me in it. I was just, every single person was just like,

Speaker 4 duh, duh. Or no, obviously not.
Obviously not. Obviously not.
How dumb are you? How dumb are you?

Speaker 4 I mean, I posted, like I said, on the show, because I thought, you know, obviously I should have known this, but I posted on my Instagram story without context. And then

Speaker 2 people were getting mad. About what?

Speaker 4 About the Anaconda. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 10 I had friends that texted me screenshots of the Anaconda that they saw independently, and they're like, this is not the picture that Hank thought was real, right? I was like, Max 2?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 That's the one. The one where it's in the middle of the road.
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Big ass Anaconda.

Speaker 4 You don't know what's going on down there. It's 200 feet long.

Speaker 2 I was scared. I was like, fuck.

Speaker 2 At least that one,

Speaker 4 I was like, this can't be real. And did some research.
But yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, it wasn't really a fire fest. It was fun.
But

Speaker 4 I took Oldie to hot yoga yesterday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's he actually blames part of the smell on the hot yoga.

Speaker 9 Did you shower this morning?

Speaker 2 He showered at the hot yoga. He said he showered four times since then.

Speaker 1 And you think it's the hot yoga has like unearthed something in you?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think it was just a huge decompression or like detox or whatever came out. I don't know.

Speaker 10 Your body just expressed itself.

Speaker 2 Well, it was like the hardest class of all time.

Speaker 4 I thought we lost Oldie a couple times. was losing.
I thought I was going to die.

Speaker 2 And Oldie's flexible.

Speaker 4 Well, that's what he was doing, Splits of the Office, and he was like hanging out right before we left. And we were like, You want to come? He's like, Yeah, I used to do it all the time.

Speaker 4 And then he was, I mean, it was very funny having him there. He was, you know, walking up to all the instructors after being like, Thank you for the practice.
Thank you for the practice.

Speaker 10 And then to one of them, he was like,

Speaker 4 I haven't done this in seven years.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 I thought he was like, I thought when you said, like, oh, you know, I do it all the time. I was like, oh, yeah, fit right in.
Yeah. It was a hard class.
But it was like

Speaker 4 it was me, Chef Donnie, and Oldie. And when the class ended, there was like the Nile River of sweat between the three of us.
It was disgusting.

Speaker 4 So yeah, maybe, I don't know how that unlocks whatever that smell is.

Speaker 2 Something happened. The smell is hot.
Yogurt. Yeah,

Speaker 4 it was funny, but it was like I looked over a couple times and I thought Oldie was down for the count.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was a great practice, though.

Speaker 6 Great practice. Great practice.

Speaker 9 I felt bad.

Speaker 4 I felt bad being like, yeah, this was probably not the one to bring you to.

Speaker 6 It was a lot of water, a lot of sweat out.

Speaker 6 I wanted to say, like, you know, I think it's maybe from the yoga, but all the boys, the boys that boys that know back home, the B.O. is pretty strong.
Oh, it's a known thing?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 9 It's been around.

Speaker 6 It's been around.

Speaker 2 Can we get a spray?

Speaker 1 Do we have the dove?

Speaker 6 I did that twice, three times, before even.

Speaker 10 Is that a family thing? I don't know.

Speaker 6 I don't think, no, Papa Dukes don't smell like this shit. No.
I mean, I don't know if I'm what I'm consuming or whatever.

Speaker 6 Like, I mean, I even try to take my girls deodorant and they say dad no don't touch it don't touch it i mean i nothing works for me oh man i think i got to go to like a like a science building to say like what can what can what what can what what can we make to make this go away yeah like is everything already every where would you find a science building dove does probably got something we should do that as an ad but they but they do eight hour guaranteed 12 hours and then they throw the 24 banger on there the only thing in life you can't change is a clock 24 hours so you gotta get yeah but but we should get you like Dove doing an ad where they're like, we have got the smelliest guy in the world and we made him smell fresh.

Speaker 11 Get prescription. Max is back.

Speaker 1 Max, Max, we said no Hamas.

Speaker 1 Oh, Max, what are you doing?

Speaker 14 I needed a face covering. You guys got like one whiff of it.
We're just living in it back here.

Speaker 1 Okay, PFT. So your Fire Fest says you are dumb with AI, and then I made it worse?

Speaker 4 No, I knew I was dumb, but it was the 23 million views and the amount of

Speaker 4 people responding about how dumb it was to think it was real just made me feel a little bit worse.

Speaker 9 Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 Sorry. I apologize.

Speaker 1 You know, you can mute the conversation. I did.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, that's the best

Speaker 2 feature on Twitter.

Speaker 4 When I woke up, it was like,

Speaker 2 this is bad.

Speaker 10 Oh, I mute conversations.

Speaker 1 I'll mute a conversation the second I throw out a take. I'll just be like, here's a take.
Mute.

Speaker 10 I mute every single one of the aggregators. Yeah.
Because they tag us in all

Speaker 2 everything.

Speaker 10 And then you get the dumbest replies ever and the dumbest arguments that last for weeks sometimes.

Speaker 1 Caleb Williams wore a different style of shorts today. And I just all of a sudden have like all these mentions from ML football.
And I was like, oh no, did something big happen? So I unmuted.

Speaker 1 He was just wearing different shorts.

Speaker 10 Yeah, Jaden Daniels is looking different at Trading Camp. What do you notice? And then it devolved into a big conversation in the comment section that gets into like Brock Purdy at some point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just mute that whole conversation.

Speaker 10 Sorry, Hank. So the only thing is, Hank, you're just too trusting, I think.

Speaker 2 It was a cool video.

Speaker 10 I'll stand by that. If it was real, it would have been awesome.

Speaker 4 And the noises. And it was the whale, thank you.
Yeah, the thank you. I was like, you know, as a whale advocate, I was like, yes,

Speaker 1 did you see the video, Oldie?

Speaker 2 Max, show me the video. I think I did.

Speaker 6 Was it the whale? I didn't see the Anaconda. I seen the whale push off.

Speaker 10 It was the whale that had heavy equipment

Speaker 12 driving on its back.

Speaker 6 What was anaconda?

Speaker 1 But did you think that was real?

Speaker 6 At first, I was like, oh, they can scalp it pretty good. And then I was like, nah, come on, that's a tractor.
You don't see a tractor just floating on the ocean like that.

Speaker 2 Like on a whale.

Speaker 6 Good reasoning. I'm thinking, okay, I grew up on a hundred-acre farm.
I never seen this shit before.

Speaker 6 But then you think 2025, and then I said, nah, this isn't, it's one of those new IA things. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 All right, PFT.

Speaker 10 My fire of the week is that I officially felt old as fuck, like middle-aged last week.

Speaker 10 Because I got a power washer on Saturday.

Speaker 10 I went out to Home Depot, picked up, I rented one about a year ago, and I got it, and it was awesome. And the guy was like talking shit to me.
Like, he's like, you never used one of these before.

Speaker 10 I don't know if you can handle it. I was like, dude, I'll handle it.
No problem. I got this.
And I did it, and it was awesome. And then I said, I'm going to buy one of these things.

Speaker 10 I'm going to get one of these things. So last Saturday, went to Home Depot, picked one up, brought it home.
I'm addicted to it. Yeah.
You just start finding shit around.

Speaker 9 I could power wash you, Oldie.

Speaker 6 That might work. That would, but you ought to be careful.
Yeah. Are you dealing with a battery or gas?

Speaker 10 So that's really where the Fire Fest comes in.

Speaker 2 Okay, so we'll hold off on that because.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was.

Speaker 10 I put a video out because I wanted to piss people off. So I did a video of me power washing my patio, and I intentionally missed a spot so that people would be like, what the fuck, dude?

Speaker 10 You missed a spot. Some people were mad about that.
But then I didn't realize that I stumbled into a deep, deep hole online that I I was not aware of, and that's power washing Twitter.

Speaker 10 Oh, and they were like, dude, you have an electric power washer?

Speaker 10 I would hide that thing when my friends come over. Yeah.
You have an electric, dude. That's the gayest thing that I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 10 And now I'm like, I got to go back and get a gas-powered one. Oh, no.
I got 2,000 PSI on it. I thought that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 You could tell all these things.

Speaker 9 You could tell the stream.

Speaker 2 When I was watching your videos.

Speaker 4 If it was gas, he's like, yeah.

Speaker 10 Well, I already didn't have it on the most powerful stream on that.

Speaker 6 It ain't fuel.

Speaker 2 It ain't fuel.

Speaker 6 I don't care what you're gonna save this and save that but it ain't fuel you get fuel you better hold on two hands of that pistol she's gonna be flipping and flopping you want to cook with something 3500 4 000 sheets well what can 3500 4 000 sheets do that 2000 can't absolutely piss pump the shit out of that thing double times two times double times

Speaker 10 piss pump the shit god damn it i should have pissed the shit

Speaker 6 double times you'll clean you know all those stains you get on the concrete and stuff yeah busy busy busy gone gotta go those right there you're like you're like double lapping opping

Speaker 6 with the battery guy.

Speaker 9 I don't know. Or electric.

Speaker 10 Maybe sometimes, but it has different streams. I got the different nozzles to it.
And one of them is like zero degree. And that one, I think I could cut my toe off with that one.

Speaker 6 So another thing, too, for everyone, it doesn't matter who you are, where you're to, where you're from. Pressure washers are very dangerous.

Speaker 6 You always got to keep a distance away, even if it's electric or gas. It's close enough, you can literally cut through someone's skin.
So that zero is cutting through someone's skin. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 6 So even as exhaust right out. But yeah, you just got to keep away.

Speaker 6 it's the most satisfying thing in the world to power wash something to clean up so good my con my uh the walk i have a walkway in front of the homestead there and it's uh it always gets stained and stuff so it gets all like black and dark and from all the leaves falling i pressure wash it off that thing yeah immaculate mine's electric too electric too but it still works well you can't do you can't be talking all that shit about my electric one if you're if you're pumping out electricity too i know it still does the job it still works but at the end of the day we're soft ass pit bitch old men like we need the real gas yeah you want to hear that

Speaker 2 I do. I do.
I do.

Speaker 2 You've used the gas one, right, Oldie? Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 Means his dad was roasting me. That's how bad it got.
Oh, no.

Speaker 4 When you finish, like, are you like, you know, touchdown score?

Speaker 6 Oh, it cleans, like, beautiful.

Speaker 2 Beautiful. Yeah.
So put your arms up.

Speaker 12 Yeah, like, let's touch it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 6 It's a great relief. It's a great relief.
But you know what? It's still good. How good does it clean things?

Speaker 14 It's awesome.

Speaker 10 It is actually like the coolest tool I've ever used in my life. I'm just finding stuff around my house.
I'm like, I should power wash that. I should power wash it.

Speaker 10 When it rained the other day, I was pissed off. I was like, I can't power wash in the rain.
It sucks. But I was talking to some of the boys at the office about it, and they had a pretty good idea.

Speaker 10 Just get a bunch of fruit and play real-life fruit ninja.

Speaker 2 Oh, I love that. With a power washer.

Speaker 10 Just throw shit up in the air and try to saw through it. I love that.
With the water.

Speaker 6 Zero angle. You need a zero.
Zero angle. You don't want the 12 or 15, the 15 or 30%.
That's like a spray.

Speaker 10 I think I could cut through a banana easy. with a skid on.

Speaker 2 I know you can.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I could circumcise Biz. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you could. You can help him out.
Beliefs win the cup.

Speaker 1 He should have to do that.

Speaker 10 I'll circumcise him with my power washer. Yeah.
Oh, clean.

Speaker 6 That's clean, too. Straight line.
I like that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Cauterize it.

Speaker 10 Hot water.

Speaker 1 All right. My Fire Fest.

Speaker 6 I talked about it last week.

Speaker 1 And you should watch the Viva TV that is out now. Dwayne Wade behind the scenes.

Speaker 11 Also, my cream team, which

Speaker 1 is Jacob and Zach in the office, who I hired to be my cream team.

Speaker 11 Ben Mintz.

Speaker 1 Ben Mintz is a...

Speaker 1 Advisor.

Speaker 4 He's an advisor to the cream team.

Speaker 1 He's not officially. He's the advisor on free stuff.
Got it. He was tasked with doing what he's doing.

Speaker 2 He's going in the way, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, letting someone DM him and then him being like, yeah, I can get you a meeting with Dave Portnoy. Just give me like a free

Speaker 10 topic.

Speaker 2 Yeah, very good.

Speaker 1 I've made the purchase. Oh.

Speaker 2 And it's coming tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Whoa. So it's not going to be fully operational tomorrow because we need to get the actual manufacturer out to put it all back together.
Like there's a couple pieces that need to be put back in.

Speaker 1 But the soft serve ice cream machine will be in the office tomorrow. And it's probably going to be an expensive mistake, but I don't care because

Speaker 4 it's never going to make any money.

Speaker 1 Well, no, it pays for itself if it works.

Speaker 2 And, like,

Speaker 4 I think. Not actually.
No, it does.

Speaker 12 You can make money.

Speaker 10 It pays for itself for sure.

Speaker 2 What do you mean?

Speaker 4 Well, you're not like getting any return. Let me explain.

Speaker 10 Ice cream. Let me explain.

Speaker 12 Let me explain how this is.

Speaker 2 It pays for itself, dude.

Speaker 10 Let me explain how this is going to make money.

Speaker 10 In about four years' time, when Brandon Walker's contract comes up and he's getting offers from Fox Sports and ESPN and Caller Daddy to leave and join them, they're offering maybe twice as much, but we're like, Brandon, we still got the ice cream machine.

Speaker 2 He's like, God damn it, I got to stay. But we might not have to.

Speaker 10 I just love this place so goddamn much.

Speaker 1 It's probably going to break down.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 It's going to pay for itself.

Speaker 2 That's why, but aren't they going to learn how to use it? Yeah, they're going to learn how to use it.

Speaker 1 I mean, I didn't, my cream team is not the smartest.

Speaker 2 Got it.

Speaker 10 How do you clean that thing?

Speaker 2 It's probably going to need your power washer. That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 No, it's

Speaker 1 there's a whole thing. We also

Speaker 1 struck a deal with the people we're buying it from who have like a whole warehouse of different parts and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 They're going to do a deep clean once a week because I also learned about Listeria this week, which you can die.

Speaker 2 We don't want that.

Speaker 10 You can die from it, yeah.

Speaker 1 So the only thing standing between us and Listeria is the cream team.

Speaker 10 It, yeah, it's bad. So, wait, the only thing staying between us and Listeria is exactly who?

Speaker 1 Jacob and Zach.

Speaker 2 Okay. Yeah, the cream team.

Speaker 4 Do you guys ever clean your dishwasher?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Sure.

Speaker 4 All right, good. That makes me feel good.
Sure, do

Speaker 2 what? Once a week.

Speaker 12 What do you mean?

Speaker 4 That's the thing you have to do.

Speaker 2 Oh, you run.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, you run it.

Speaker 2 Are you talking about running it? Not like taking it out.

Speaker 6 No, he's talking about in the bottom as a filtration, the filter thing.

Speaker 9 Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 You can pull the filter out and shake it.

Speaker 6 You don't have to do it all the time. Once a month.

Speaker 2 Yeah, once a month. I thought you just run it.
Once a month.

Speaker 10 Yeah. It's like your oven.

Speaker 2 That's what we do.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Once a month. You do that, right, Hank?

Speaker 2 No, I did it for the first time in a year. How was it? Gross.

Speaker 4 Yeah, all the food.

Speaker 6 It's a filter through all the, so all the food doesn't run down the tube down the outside, so it collects it before it runs through.

Speaker 10 It's like a time capsule.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Not good. Not good.

Speaker 1 But either way, we got ice cream on the way. I'm saying we're going to have soft serve ice cream in this office within the next 10 days.
And boys, I've done the math.

Speaker 1 The only thing that we have to, and I talked to Max about this, the only issue is

Speaker 1 it's a big industrial machine, so everyone's going to have to pull their part.

Speaker 11 Like, I'm going to have to do ice cream checks.

Speaker 1 Like, have you had your ice cream today? If you haven't, got to go.

Speaker 2 Hank?

Speaker 12 Hank's banned. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. No, I unbanned it.
Yeah. Oh, okay.

Speaker 9 I'm just trying to post that fake news.

Speaker 2 Max,

Speaker 14 I thought about this. I think I would like sample cups

Speaker 14 right next to it, and I think I might have like 20 sample cups a day.

Speaker 2 Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? We're gonna have cones. Sometimes you

Speaker 14 want like a little taste, but I don't want the whole thing, but I'm gonna have about 20 little tastes like every day.

Speaker 2 What's expected per week? Like what, what, what, what

Speaker 2 do you,

Speaker 6 how much you weigh?

Speaker 4 180.

Speaker 1 You're gonna have to eat about seven cones a week.

Speaker 1 That's easy. Me, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna be around the 12 to 14.

Speaker 1 Morning, night. I can do

Speaker 10 guarantee you that there's gonna be several times where at lunch I'm like, oh shit, I didn't bring a lunch. I don't really feel like ordering.
I'm just gonna eat iced cheese.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 1 yep sundays are gonna be a joke oh man i'm gonna eat so much you may have seven on sunday i'm gonna eat so much ice cream on football sunday we're gonna have to do bets of like every time your team gets scored on oh eat a cone oh yeah so excited it's gonna be great yeah it's gonna be so great so let's hope it works because i the only fear i have about the ice cream machine is once we introduce ice cream into the office you can't then take it away If you take it away, we'll die.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like if you just have everyday soft-serve ice cream and they're they're like, oh, today you don't have it anymore, that's death.

Speaker 10 Do you know why the McDonald's ice cream machines are never up? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I found this out from my cream team. So they had a bad deal with a manufacturer that

Speaker 1 the deal was only they could fix, like the McDonald's staff couldn't fix their machines.

Speaker 2 Right, right.

Speaker 1 So they had to call in someone.

Speaker 10 It's like printers.

Speaker 10 You always have to call in like Pitney Bows or some shit to come fix your printer.

Speaker 1 But the update is the cream team told me that deal actually ended about six months ago. Oh, so it's back.
So they're back. So they no longer have to go through that.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 11 Big time cream team update.

Speaker 10 I'm excited. Yeah.
Very excited. I might eat more in the winter.

Speaker 2 I might too. I love ice cream in the winter.

Speaker 11 Yeah, especially because you get to wear a sweatshirt. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you don't have to feel fat after. Old, do you want to wrap us up? You got a fire fest?

Speaker 10 I was going to say, because

Speaker 10 it doesn't make you cold.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 10 But that too. That's a great point.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Lego, that ice cream machine sounds really, really good. Yeah.

Speaker 6 So I don't know if it's my room to step on any toes or get excited about this, but like, what if we got sauces on the side?

Speaker 1 We're going to do toppings on Fridays.

Speaker 6 Oh, just toppings Fridays only.

Speaker 1 I think sprinkles every day, toppings Friday.

Speaker 6 Yeah, because then everyone.

Speaker 2 What's that, name?

Speaker 6 That's too much high expectation if they want it every day. That's too much.
You only eat it on Fridays. If you don't want to show up on Friday, guess what? You ain't got toppings.

Speaker 2 You get no toppings.

Speaker 2 No, I know.

Speaker 4 You guys know me. I know me.
And I know I'm being resistant. And I know.
But once I start, once I enjoy a cone, I'm eating like 20 cones a week. Yeah.
That's bad. Right.

Speaker 2 No, but that's what we need. That's what we need.

Speaker 1 That's a great life. Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's what the quota is. The quota has to be at a certain point.
And I think you're eligible and totally capable of finishing this off in seven days.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you this, Hank. Do you think there's ever been someone on their deathbed who has said to themselves, man, I wish I hadn't eaten all that ice cream? Probably.

Speaker 1 Actually, yeah, maybe like someone who like dies of heart failure. All right, but do you think

Speaker 1 that was a bad question? Strike that from the room.

Speaker 10 No, because I think they're like worth it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's That's probably other stuff, yeah. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 But do you think, has anyone ever been like, ooh, I, you know what I need to do is eat less ice cream?

Speaker 4 Do I think people, yes.

Speaker 11 Okay, these are bad questions. Help me out, PFT.

Speaker 10 Well, no, it was a bad answer. I think that people that are on their deathbed that have heart trouble, they're like, I wish I hadn't smoked those cigarettes.

Speaker 10 I know, they probably like those cigarettes. Yeah.

Speaker 2 All right. All right.
Here's a question.

Speaker 11 Easy question. Ice cream.

Speaker 1 First word that comes to your mind.

Speaker 4 Ice cream. No.

Speaker 1 words i was hoping you were gonna say like good awesome love it summer ice cream good right yeah do you want more good things or less good things more

Speaker 10 there you go there it is no i know what what if we got the choco taco shells and we did taco tuesdays we could do that we could absolutely do that uh all right cherry salsa old you got a uh fire fest

Speaker 6 Yeah, I got a fire fest. There's always something bumping.
There's always something grinding.

Speaker 6 I appreciate you guys, everyone here, everywhere across the stool.

Speaker 6 max just pulling my story yeah tell your story do your way and he's grabbing me and mulling me over here like it's not nice speaking of that was kind of what almost happened to me uh so i appreciate you guys you the boys from that chicklets threw me down there game six yeah in their barn i came in live let's go i met up with memes uh dale beauty he was my camera guy went down there solo dolo

Speaker 1 Great moves.

Speaker 10 You had awesome moves behind the glass.

Speaker 2 I thought they were phenomenal.

Speaker 6 So I'm dancing on the glass, having a good time, firing up the boys, getting them in the kitchen. Gotta go busy, busy.
All of a sudden, the next thing you know,

Speaker 6 security is telling me, hey, buddy, you can't be doing that. You gotta go.
Buddy, I'm just having a good time on the glass. Like, what do you mean? Oh, no, your shirt's undone.

Speaker 6 You can't be doing that. It's working.

Speaker 6 Buddy, we're in the state of Florida. Yeah.
Everyone here is topless. I've seen more thongs today than I have in the last three years up in Canada.
So what are you telling me I can't have my shirt on?

Speaker 10 It sounds like sexism. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so I was so like, okay. So I'm talking with the guys.
He's like, what the fuck?

Speaker 6 i was like what the so i'm like why is this happening to me so i'm now i'm pissed like i'm like okay dude like i'm just trying to have a good time i'm not harming anyone so we're all in the group in the console thing he's telling me so like i said guys it's all good in the hood so he walks away i we i start walking away me and memes to go grab another cold one quick people are coming oldie oldie the guy in the all green canine security Dog.

Speaker 12 They got the dog on you?

Speaker 6 No, it's the guy in all green, but he's in like a canine suit. It just has canine pass.

Speaker 1 Oh, I was going to say the dog would probably like sniff you and die. Oh, he would have been hungry.

Speaker 6 He would have been passed right out on him. They wouldn't have thought what happened to it, little poochie.
He's done. So I'm standing there.
We walk away. All of a sudden, he comes up to me.

Speaker 6 Hey, motherfucker, did you hear what I said? You do that down the glass again, and you're fucking out of here. I said, hey, sir, listen, I apologize.
I told the guys I'm sorry. All good.

Speaker 6 He goes, no, you didn't hear what the fuck I said. I'm going to drag your ass out of here, pal.
And you're gone. Okay, brother.
My bad. All good.
I appreciate you. Go ahead.
No big deal.

Speaker 6 Second period comes on. Bollies are buzzing.
the leaves are going. Next thing you know, I see this guy comes back in between the second and third intermission.
Right away, comes up to me.

Speaker 6 I thought, oh, fuck, here we go again. What did I do now? Hey, hey, man, I'm really sorry about that.
I want to apologize. I didn't realize who you were.

Speaker 2 I said, but

Speaker 6 I said, are you fucking shitting me, pal? You were ready to spear tackle me right through this brick wall.

Speaker 2 You were hungrier than the fuck.

Speaker 6 You haven't looked like you've eaten in a long time. So he power chipped and he just like just apologized.
I appreciate you. All good, man.
All good. And I'm thinking to myself, you mother dog meat.

Speaker 6 You were gonna, he was ready to drag my ass.

Speaker 2 He was an oldie fan.

Speaker 1 He was an oldie fan.

Speaker 6 The next thing you know, they told him who I was. That's fine.
Second clearance. Third period comes up.
The boys are buzzing. We're up 2-0.

Speaker 9 Or we're up 1-0.

Speaker 6 I went to the glass. Gotta go.

Speaker 6 Shirt open. Let's go.

Speaker 2 Let's go.

Speaker 6 So I'm like, I'm like this.

Speaker 9 I'm like this.

Speaker 2 Let's go.

Speaker 6 I got the boys buzzing out there. All of a sudden, the guy guy comes up.
I go back and sit in my seat.

Speaker 2 It's hot in here.

Speaker 6 I got to leave this off.

Speaker 2 So the guy comes back up.

Speaker 6 And the next thing you know, he comes up. Hey, come over here.
I said, no, no, I'm not going anywhere, sir. The usher again, the third time.
I'm not going anywhere, sir, please.

Speaker 6 And then the cop comes, hey, come on over here. I said, listen, officer, I don't want to go anywhere, brother.
Please, I want to stay in the barn. He goes, listen, you're a beauty.

Speaker 6 You're doing a good thing, but he's not kicking you out. I'm venting for you.
I got you. I said, officer, please, man.
I ain't doing nothing wrong. We go walk upstairs, have another conversation.

Speaker 6 Third time, shooting the shit. All of a sudden, we're talking.
Next thing you know, I'm apologizing. I appreciate this, sir.
Shaking his hand. He goes, okay, no more.

Speaker 6 I said, I promise no more shirt off.

Speaker 6 So, as I'm walking away, everyone thinks I got booted, right? I see Twitter, people sending me out of here. My old lady's texting me, are you gone? Are you okay? I said, no, I'm good.

Speaker 2 I'm good, baby girl. I'm good.

Speaker 2 Max, where are you going? Max, come back. Max, come back.
Max.

Speaker 6 The next thing you know, we're upstairs. I'm shaking his hand, sir.
I apologize. All good.
Okay, man, just enjoy the go of the game. So, memes is catching it on the whole video.

Speaker 6 And you know how there's the drape curtains? You know how there's the drape curtains there? Yeah.

Speaker 4 A little crossover.

Speaker 6 So I walk through the drape curtains after. I said, Okay, buddy, take care.
I look around. I say, You can't cook out good vibes.

Speaker 2 Lego, busy, busy.

Speaker 6 They tried to boot me three times.

Speaker 6 So, no dice, you ain't kicking me out here. We're landed right on the glass level.
There we go. Cheering on the buds, telling them, Let's go.
Scotty Lawton giving me the fist pump. I'm fired up.

Speaker 6 It is so wicked in there.

Speaker 2 We got her going.

Speaker 6 The buds came and the fire fest is I went back for game seven and I tried my best and unfortunately they couldn't pull through for me. But yeah, I got my house almost stackled.

Speaker 6 Even in Toronto, that other guy, I'm dancing on the glass. One ostracer comes up.
Hey, you can't be doing that, buddy. I said, sir, I'm having a good time.

Speaker 6 Five minutes into the warm-up dance, another guy comes in.

Speaker 6 Hey, you're gone, buddy, you're gone. His name, I think his name was Richard.
I looked at him. I said, hey, listen, Richard, no problem.
I'm gone. No, no, you can't be doing that on the glass here.

Speaker 6 I said, listen, I'm with the guys. They got me ticks.
I'm out in a bump and grind out here. So the guy that got me the ticks, he said, hey, no, these guys are good.
They're with us.

Speaker 6 We're with the Scotia Bank. All of a sudden, security walks down.
I said, oh, fuck, holy. It might be another one kicking, kicked out of my own barn.
He comes to the guys.

Speaker 6 Security goes to the usher, talks to them.

Speaker 2 Hey, don't touch him.

Speaker 6 He's good.

Speaker 2 The security guy's the main guy.

Speaker 6 Security guy walks away all of a sudden because there's all these people crowded. They're filming and getting excited.

Speaker 2 And all you just hear, old D, Old D.

Speaker 6 And then I just inspired and embraced it. I said, let's go.

Speaker 6 Right back down on the glass burning turn. Oh, and I got shell shocked.
But yeah, that was a little bit extended for your

Speaker 6 Fire Fest, but that's really life. Really.

Speaker 2 Awesome.

Speaker 11 You can't keep it. See you okay?

Speaker 2 All right. All right.
We'll finish the show.

Speaker 1 Oldie, always great having you. Appreciate you.

Speaker 2 Love you all.

Speaker 6 Bump and grab.

Speaker 1 Numbers, 35.

Speaker 2 17.

Speaker 1 Oldie, what's your number?

Speaker 6 I got to go back to the roots. It's got to be four.
Come on. It's got to be my number.
It's got to hit. Max, what's your name?

Speaker 2 One.

Speaker 1 One for Max. I'm going three.
Memes, did you say a number?

Speaker 2 93.

Speaker 2 99. Pug.
30. 21.

Speaker 4 It's going to be Nasher.

Speaker 4 If it's Nasher again.

Speaker 10 Nasher again would be all time.

Speaker 10 Pug looks like he's going to cry in there.

Speaker 4 I saw Pug give a look I've never seen in my life. Oh.

Speaker 2 95.

Speaker 10 Shane looked like a dad that thought he smelled weed.

Speaker 6 Love you guys.

Speaker 2 Lego. Busy, busy.
Lego.