Friday Winners With Stanford Steve, Recapping Day 1 Of March Madness, Bonus Mt Rushmore Of March Madness Things + Fyre Fest Of The Week Including Possible Severance Spoilers (We Haven't Seen The Finale Yet)

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Will Wade Madness. We also have our good friend Stanford

Steve on to talk exclusively

Friday picks. So

we're breaking down the whole board. If you got your teeth

kicked in on Thursday, you can listen

to this. Stanford Steve's a lot smarter

than us. We got some picks for Friday.

We do a bonus

Mount Rushmore. Out of Mount Rushmore season,

but we did a Mount Rushmore. Great Mount Rushmore.

Great Mount Rushmore.

And then we're going to finish with Fire

Fest. Spoil also Severance

Thank you. Mount Rushmore.
Out of Mount Rushmore season, but we did a Mount Rushmore. Great Mount Rushmore.
Great Mount Rushmore. And then we are going to finish with Firefest.
Spoil. Also Severance spoilers.
Also Severance spoilers, but not really because none of us watched the finale yet. And that's also going to be at the end of the show.
End of the show. End of the show.
During the Firefest. So the beginning of Firefest.
Yes. Just if you're like three episodes behind with Severance.
Yes. Fast forward.
But otherwise, we don't know the finale. Also, I love the Purdue high point under.
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Today is Friday, March 21st, and we've got madness. McNeese madness.
And the SEC is dead. Yeah, the SEC.
Not really, but the Big Ten, congratulations. Big Ten and Big East had a nice day uh we had not the craziest first day of madness but mcnees state i think leads the uh leads the storyboard because what a day for will wade he's announced as the new coach of nc state then goes out and and gives us a classic 12-5 upset where i know it looks like a two-point game, but they were dominating Clemson for the majority of the game.
Clemson couldn't make a shot in the first half. It was ugly.
Towards the end, they started to pour it in. It all came in kind of all of a sudden.
So the two points looks a lot closer than it was. But yeah, Will Wade, Clemson alum, beating his alma mater, then going to NC State.
And new rival. And new rival.
Yeah. And did it the right way because we've seen it the wrong way and a million times where coaches will say, I'm not talking to them.
I don't know what you're talking about. I'm focused on my team.
Will Wade said two days ago, yeah, I'm having conversations with NC State. Yeah, I heard some people that were upset about it.
I think Will Wade probably told his students last year students last year yeah like hey i'm gonna come back for another year i probably had some offers i'm gonna come back i'm gonna be talking to other schools you guys want to transfer at the end of this year too probably if all goes well if you win games in the tournament you'll get to transfer to a better school maybe get some nil money so i think will wade in a twist, everything that he was doing that was illegal back then is legal now.

Yeah.

And he's just being open and honest about it and telling the kids like, hey, I'm not

going to lie to you.

I'm going to leave.

You're probably going to go look for some money, too.

Let's win some games.

Not only that, but with the new transfer portal rules, he's going to take a bunch of these

guys with him.

Yeah.

So it's like, hey, I'm going to be open with you guys.

Who's coming with me?

I'd rather Will Wade be transparent about it. Yeah, it's awkward that he took a new job before his team even played in the tournament then uh darren devries uh who went from west virginia to indiana uh in the bahamas in december and had his son sit out the year for a medical red shirt uh the game is the game so it's not like i'm saying oh man he did something so wrong west virginia definitely west virginia is having a bad week but i'd rather have the will wade where you're just up front about it and saying yeah i'm talking to nc state oh yep i got a new job yeah i'm totally cool with that and i'm also sure that will wade told the administration i'm go i am going to be listening to phone calls if they come right right uh all right so game so So game.
So McNeese was the big upset, so to speak. They were seven and a half point underdogs.
And they were the 12-5 matchup. The other big one was Drake.
Finally, Drake has staved off the meltdown that we are all accustomed to with Drake in the tournament where they start a game. They're up big, and then they slowly melt down.
They tried to do it. It was like they were up all game, and it was, I think, a two-point game with about five minutes left, but they beat Mizzou, which was kind of a stunning upset because the SEC has been, the big bad SEC, has been the talk of college basketball this year, and it was that one and Cal and the boys, Arkansas.
Yeah. Ending Hunter Dickinson's career.
And they look good. Yeah.
Arkansas looked real good. They were getting boards.
They were creating a lot of turnovers. So many turnovers for Kansas.
It was crazy. Like Kansas felt like they were going to come start knocking at the door and then they just couldn't get the ball down the court.
court. It was very strange.
And I think that Arkansas, the way that they're built, we can talk about St. John's, but not only are we going to get Cal Pitino like America wanted in the second round, but I think that those two schools can give each other a really good game.
Yes, absolutely. Yeah, and it was an interesting game because Cal was basically shocked by Kansas being like, hey, we're going to zone you in the second half.
And there was that stretch where Arkansas just could not score. And Kansas even took the lead with a couple minutes left.
But we all wanted this game, and we're going to get this game. I have a question for you, Big Cat.
Yeah. Is Bill Self on the hot seat? I don't know if he's on the hot seat.
This was probably the most i mean i i would i would imagine bill self is going to do a press conference and be like i did a bad job coaching but i also hated the fuck out of this team yeah because this was kansas all year they were up and down they were supposed to be great they they struggled uh at times they had some bad losses and i think most kansas fans saw this coming in the fact that they just weren't built for a long run. Again, also it's the end of Hunter Dickinson's career.
So Perry Ellis still has a COVID year though. He can come.
He does. Here's the stat for you.
Kansas had won 19 of 22 conference titles before Hunter Dickinson transferred to KU. In his two years there, the Jayhawks finished fifth and sixth, respectively.
Moreover, they won one NCAA tournament game in this time there. Now, it is a little different because the Big 12 expanded.
Houston got added. Arizona got added.
And Houston's really fucking good. It's Kansas, though.
It is Kansas. That's not the best.
So I think he's done. Yeah, he is done.
I think so. I don't think that there's any sort of exploitable rule that they can do to bring him back.
I don't know that they'd want him back. I think they're ready to move on from the Hunter Dickinson experiment.
Yeah, I'd say so. Obviously, Bill Self not on the hot seat, but it's fun to have the conversation.
The conversation is being had. People should have the conversation.
kids is also they became the second ap preseason number one to lose in the first round of the ncaa tournament you know who the other one was who also kansas in 2005 to bucknell that's tough yeah i remember that game uh shit pumping there was a bunch of them yeah ucla shit pumped utah't even close. It was close, actually, in the first half.
I think it was a 25-23 game at one point. And the final score was 72-47.
That was not shocking, but it was just like, I thought Utah State would be a little bit more live. It was just the guards for UCLA were so much bigger than the guards from Utah State it didn't look like it looked like a high school team playing against them Purdue handled high point very easily I tried to tell Hank to take the under he didn't listen to me under vibes though St.
John's kicked the shit out of Omaha St. John's is so funny because St.
John's they did this in the Big East tournament too where they have to like go down to to wake up and and then just start bullying someone yeah they were down Omaha was up in the first half and then St. John's like ah we're St.
John's and you're not yeah right off the bat they when they missed three pointers they really missed three points and I think they ended up shooting like a respectable percentage I think it was probably in the mid-30s so at the end of the day you look you look at what they shot from three, and you're like, okay, that's a pretty good day shooting. But when they miss, they airball three-pointers.
Yeah, they ended up shooting 37.8%, which Rick Pitino would take that all day for St. John's and how they are not exactly a shooting team.
The thing I love about St. John's is that on defense, if a team is working the ball around, pump faking, getting guys to leave their feet, they their feet they pass it to the open guy st john seems to have an unlimited amount of dudes on the floor running at the face yeah like just in their uh their rotation is so good on defense they just keep cycling there's always somebody running at your face if you think you're about to take an open shot you're not and if you look at uh the offensive rebounds yeah i believe they lost the offensive rebounding battle but they kicked the shit out of omaha in second chance points yeah and that's because omaha they would get an offensive rebound occasionally and then just get swatted into oblivion in the lane yeah the st john's has i mean the way they put they play patino defense where everyone's hands are always active every every ball gets tipped you know nothing is easy just just swinging the ball feels hard uh and yeah st john's was definitely impressive in the second half houston squashed siu edwardsville shout out siu edwardsville uh remember we learned the big show yep that's right his right for university yeah so that's huge uh alab a little bit.
Or Auburn, sorry, struggled a little bit with Alabama State, but ended up winning pretty easily. 10 of C.
I was not. Bill Wofford in the second half.
I was not super impressed with Auburn today. No, they've had weird vibes.
I mean, they finished the season losing three out of four, and they were the number one overall seed. And, yeah, it will be.
So, like like today alabama state they they played so much harder than auburn yeah they they were beating them to loose balls they were picking up every 50 50 thing auburn didn't look like they had a fire lit under their ass before the game maybe bruce perl will be able to start it but and they ended up winning by you know a good amount it was by 20 it wasn't close at the end but i wasn't super impressed by uh my badgers handle business even though the committee tried to fuck us with the early tip time and the altitude i mean that was thanks thanks for coming out montana yeah that was not that wasn't very competitive yeah i don't think you guys even played your best game no klezman was was not good and he's got to be good against byu on saturday uh i'm trying to think of the see the tip times? Are they out? Yeah. Give them to us.
Give them to us. Because I was about to say.
What time do you think? Like the games today, there weren't super memorable moments. This happens.
You'll have a Thursday or Friday that's not like, oh, my God, that was the craziest day ever. But then you look at Saturday and you're like, holy shit, it's loaded.
Give it to us.

12-10, McNeese versus Purdue.

Okay.

2-40, Arkansas versus St. John.
Oh.

5-15, Michigan versus Texas A&M.

Ooh.

6-10, Drake versus Texas Tech.

7-10, Creighton versus Auburn.

7-45, BYU versus Wisconsin. Okay, I like that.
Are these Eastern Standard Time? These are all Eastern Standard Time. Yeah.
Okay. 8-40 Gonzaga, Houston.
9-40 UCLA, Tennessee. Pick out what happens if the game keeps going to overtime and going to overtime and going to overtime and it gets into Sunday.
Can BYU play? 6-45. We should try to extend it.
Yeah. Pull a fire alarm.
That would be a long game. Yeah.
Really long game. Pull a fire alarm.
I like having a night game. I was worried.
I didn't think they were going to do it because it's mountain time, but I was worried they were going to do the second game. Need some rest.
Get some rest. It's going to be a tough game.
BYU is good. They fucking they fucking fill it up from three it's basically gonna be the scariest game in terms of just any team can go on a run at any time with threes and we missed a fun fact we missed a fun fact by byu no max missed the fun max missed the fun fact by byu well missed the fun because i i heard that on the radio yesterday and i was like that's a big mistake on our part.
How am I supposed to look up every fact about every tournament? This is maybe the funnest fact in the tournament. I looked up BYU fun facts.
What was your BYU fun fact? Was it as fun as this one? No. No.
I think it was just that they- And this is the funnest fact ever. They spent $7 million on a player coming in next year.
That is fun. Oh, that is fun.
What was the fun fact that he missed? Probably money from the tater tots. Yeah.
What is it? Is it tater tots? No, you say what the fact is. You have BYU.
You say it. Richie Saunders, his great-grandfather invented tater tots.
That's big time. Awesome.
That's a sick fact. That's quite a legacy.
That's a guy who, yeah, should have a museum after him. And did we talk about Jeff Sprouse? Did we already talk about Jeff Sprouse? No, but you should probably apologize to Jeff Sprouse.
Yeah, Jeff Sprouse. What's the fun fact? I said one player.
He did best player, worst player. I did best player, worst player for like six of the teams, and then I only said one of the worst players, and it was Jeff Sprouse who went six of 12 from three in the play- yeah he had 18 yeah he was and we think we think that jeff jeff sprouse probably listens to the show he probably heard that probably and you probably from the sprouse family someone told it yeah i got a reply from a sprouse admit that you've never that you don't know ball and only looked at the box scores and i was like

i i admitted that as i think you said it yeah you did not even the box score just the season-long yeah i pulled up the espn like stat line for every player and i was like this guy's number these guys numbers stink yeah uh yeah all right so apologies to jeff sprouse we should also mention text the Texas. The reminder today was anytime everyone in the world is talking about one team, just go the other way because I feel like that happened with two specific cases.
Yale. Everyone loved Yale.
Texas A&M. It turns out still very good.
Wade Taylor, very good. And then who was the other? Oh, VCU, BYU.
OhYU oh yeah VCU BYU was everyone was like VCU VCU VCU and UC San Diego yeah but they covered at three and a half I don't know what yeah it started at three and a half I don't know what UC San Diego is doing with that last possession you have 14 seconds you're down three I would like to try to extend the game a little and go to the rack and try to maybe get fouled there i don't know or a fade away three it was a it was a decent look but it just you but you have one shot the play took so long to develop that you you didn't give yourself an opportunity to get a rebound you give yourself an opportunity for them to get a rebound and foul right yeah it's just the game ended yeah game ended. Yeah.
Try to get that off. You actually, it could have been even worse, I think, because you could have let Dusty May get enough time where he could then foul when you're on the floor and take away your opportunity to shoot a three.
And UC San Diego deserves credit. I mean, Michigan deserves credit for holding on and making big plays down the stretch.
But UC San Diego, like, they were dead in the water in the first half, and they came out in the second half in that first five minutes, went on that run. That was some good tournament action that felt fun to watch.
Yeah, there was a lot of foul trouble in that game. That's the only thing.
It was not the best. Tate Jones fouled out with like five minutes left.
That was great. All right, what other? Did we miss anyone else? Georgia.
Georgia. Georgia Gonzaga.
Georgia didn't know how to play basketball. Does Georgia have a basketball team? They don't know how to play basketball.
It continues for another year. I don't think I've ever seen for the start of a game.
Now, Gonzaga deserves a lot of credit. Gonzaga is under or over underseeded as an eight seed.
I think they are a lot better than an eight seed. So they're not your typical eight seed.
That game started, and Georgia just didn't know how to dribble, pass, shoot, anything. Yeah.
They're falling all over themselves. Georgia basketball.
It was crazy. Also out of control when they tried to drive.
Yeah. There was also another.
Was there another Georgia incident? Football? Two. Two? Mm-hmm.
What happened? One guy drove into a house. Okay.
Okay. Are you talking about a garage? Was it his house? No.
Oh. And then the second one, which I think was the first one, was just a speeding ticket.
But I can look it up. It's funny because when March Madness is happening, other stories just don't happen.
Because i also it was like a bingo card we had another two georgia driving incidents yeah football program and then we had a very weird story for michigan yeah michigan some sort of spying the former offensive coordinator matt weiss yeah so i have it right here according to the indictment between approximately 2015 and january 2023 weiss gained unauthorized access to student athlete databases of more than 100 colleges and universities that were maintained by a third party vendor. After gaining access to these databases, Weiss downloaded the personally identifiable information and medical data of more than 150,000 athletes.
using the information that he obtained from the student-athlete databases and his own internet research, Weiss was able to obtain access to the social media, email, and or cloud storage accounts of more than 2,000 target athletes. Weiss also illegally obtained access to the social media, email, and cloud storage accounts of more than 1,300 additional students and or alumni from universities across the country.
That's creepy. That's crazy.
He sounds like he's an anonymous, like an actual hacker. That's nuts.
Can you blame Connor Stallions for this? Connor Stallions is going to try, but this guy, not so much. So I got it right here.
Georgia wide receiver Nitro Tuggle, which. I mean, that guy.
He should be allowed to speed. I don't.
You can't name him that. Yeah.
He's going to speed. He got charged.
He's going to speed or he's going to be an American gladiator. One or the other.
Arrested on charges of reckless driving and speeding in Athens. And then on Monday.
When you recruit Nitro. Yeah.
And you're at Georgia. He's a wide receiver.
It's receiver it's like you have to have like several conversations nitro you're going to be under a microscope because your name is nitro and also you play football for me you need to give him a golf cart that goes 20 miles an hour tops or just get him a driver yeah like we we're going to get ahead of this problem nitro and then georgia offensive lineman marquise easily reportedly crashed a car into an apartment complex monday night leading to a suspension today all gas no brakes interesting i would assume if these guys are good at football they'll be playing in september like what do you think they like what like how after the like what 20th time it happens like do you think at any point like do you think they joke about it because that's what it seems like they're like all right like this is just our thing here i don't office pool i don't think kirby jokes about it i think some of the guys on the staff definitely joke about it being like you got to be fucking shit at me i do think i i do think you can point at kirby smart and be like dude you need to do a better job of making the local police in your pocket like urban meyer dead in Jacksonville. But these guys are crashing into apartment buildings.
Yeah, I mean, there's not much you can do there. The speeding one.
The speeding one. You could put that under the...
The cops gotta be like, alright, speeding ticket. But I think they've had...
And they've also had so many incidents where it's like, I think the police have to be like, to start reporting yes you and like we've covered up a lot but when you're going like 140 like we got to report take their licenses yeah when nitro pulls into the the first nitro he's like nitro should get a pass yeah he should his name is when you're kirby smart you see nitro pull up to the facility day one probably in in like a Dodge Hellcat. You have to be like, hey, Nitro, you're not driving.
I'm sorry. You're just not.
Yeah. Also, we got another story we had was T.
Higgins contract. The details.
This is pretty smart by the Bengals, it seems like. So I'm reading from Florio's broke it down.
Of course, he did. Florio's not watching basketball.
He's breaking down contracts. Nothing in 2025 is guaranteed.
However, the $20 million roster bonus is earned five days after Higgins puts pen to paper. So I assume he's going to earn that.
That's actually a dangerous time to earn it right during March Madness. the only true full guarantee it's signing bonus or signing is the 10 million 2026 offseason roster bonus the bengals have as a practical matter a year-to-year option they can pay him 35.9 million for 2025 if he dresses for every game and earns the 2 million in per game roster, and they can move on before the 2026 base salary becomes fully guaranteed.
It's not guaranteed for injury. So it's not even a two-year contract.
It's a one-year contract for a good amount of money. A lot of money.
Yeah. Because the $10 million guaranteed 2026 roster bonus has offset language, they'd likely owe him nothing if they cut him after one year

since he'd likely make more elsewhere.

Yeah.

I was wondering how they were able to,

because they said that they were going to keep, obviously, T. Higgins.

They're keeping Jamar Chase.

They said they were going to try to keep Trey Hendrickson, too, if they can.

I had no idea how any of that was going to work out.

This is a fake contract.

Well, he's getting a lot of money this year over what would have been the uh franchise correct so he's getting a nice raise that's guaranteed for one it's like a he got a mega franchise tag and i guess there's structure that if they want to keep him next year they already they don't have to go back and do this all but essentially he got mega tagged yeah he got mega tagged that was interesting though yeah um what else do we have anything else from the sports world that we might have missed uh scotty scheffler's master's dinner oh yeah it's pretty much the same as it was two years ago right he ran it back except he didn't do the tortilla soup because he told us on pmt that the soup was too spicy for some of the old timers that were there and it made their tum-tums. Yeah.
So out of respect for them, he's like, okay, I won't give you diarrhea this year. Yeah.
And he added like a little homage to how he cut his finger. Oh.
What was it? Was it tortellini? Oh yeah. Ravioli bites.
So that's what he was making when he like cut his finger yeah we added the ravioli bites with meatball yeah i feel like that's a nice touch yeah that is a little joke haha i could see scotty scheffler playing some football at georgia yeah yeah right up his alley uh also i i know we did uh we did mark pope 25 arrests by the way in two years. That's crazy.
That's nuts. Got to lead the league.
23 wins. Damn.
Get those numbers up, Kirby. Not the arrest.
And there's got to be so much stuff that gets swept under the rug. Oh, yeah.
All I'll say is they have so many arrests at college. They make their way to the nfl they play for the eagles they don't get in trouble because they got big dom big dom making sure everyone stays high and tight that'd be very funny if kirby smart brought in big dom be like how do you do it yeah he should how do you do it zero suspensions least in the nfl there you go uh i gotta find that graph Yeah, that's you sure that's true.
100% true. Mark Pope.
I know we it was a little cringeworthy. We played his rap on Wednesday, but shout out Mark Pope.
This is a pretty cool story. He's paying gas money to any Kentucky fans to drive to Milwaukee.
That's pretty cool. Yeah.
So our friend Matt Jones posted proof of it. Someone from Mark Pope's office basically being like, all you do is email and say you're coming, show that you have tickets and that you're a Kentucky fan, and then they email you back, and they're like, as long as you can prove that no one's between the 9 and twelfth grade because that's that would technically be like a violation of recruitment they'll then mow you money a flat gas rate good guy pretty awesome i like mark pope that's a cool thing to do so big blue nation should be showing up to milwaukee love that what do you got max nothing i just sent i just sent the graphic of zero yeah.
Pretty happy. Did you make the graphic? No.
Dove climbing. You've been suspended, though.
From what? Well, you had to take the test. You had to take the test.
Yeah. You had to take the test.
Big Dom wasn't happy I took that test. And the time you didn't push the button.
I didn't get suspended. Well, you got, if you don't push the button again, you get soul patch.
You self suspended. Did I self vacation? I guess that.
I'm so excited for more basketball tomorrow. Yeah, it's going to be awesome.
It's the best. It's just like an entire day.
I realized today that I was just sitting in the same spot for 12 hours and it was awesome. I'm going

to put on the old Apple Watch tomorrow, see how many steps

I take. There you go.
I'm guessing it's

maybe double figures.

Maybe like 70 steps.

It's also, this hit

me at the beginning of the day.

It's crazy that when there's one

game on, you find yourself

being like, where the fuck are all the games? I need all the games. It's boring.
Yeah. I can't watch one game.
I need four games going at the same exact time. There was a moment, though, when I think the first time there are three games on at once, it just blew my mind.
Yeah. And I was like, this is so much for me to pay attention to right now.
Also, maybe shout out to TBS, CBS, uh turner true tv whoever else it is uh they did kind of fix the scoreboard for a little bit i don't understand how it's still an issue and when i'm saying this i mean if you're watching four games at once half the time you see the scoreboard on one game and it will be ahead of the actual game you're watching yeah my guess is they have some sort of a live feed plugged directly into the scores table so like when the scoreboard at the arena changes that gets fed into the other tv channel just pause it just pause that just fucking hit pause i don't want to be spoiled like the beginning of the day you have a problem with it i don't have a problem because i can i cannot look at the scores in the top i the the problem is if you know what's happening and your team's playing like when wisconsin was playing i had to look at the score to be like like montana would come down the court and be like oh shit are they about to hit a three and i'd look because i like if i it's there, I'm going to look. So that's why I can't stop myself.
You looking at me, Max? Yeah, I noticed that was a thing. I noticed that was a thing earlier today, but I thought that was just because we were watching it on YouTube TV.
No, I think they did. I tweeted.
I was pretty mean about it. I said I'd skull fuck all of them.
And then it did look like they actually, Jeff D. Lowe texted me.
He said it looked like they paused it in real time.

You could see it pause.

So but then it kind of it was like laggy a couple places.

Just figure it out.

Don't let it spoil us.

If I know there's a spoiler in front of my face, I'm going to look at it.

That's my problem.

Also, what happened in severance?

No.

Did you watch? Yep. You motherfucker.
All right. So so fire fest so we're gonna do uh our mount rushmore and then we're gonna do sanford steve and then our fire fest and there are seven spoilers in the fire fest when i say that we none of us in this room have watched the finale so there's no spoilers on the finale it's just we talked about what could happen in the finale because we have not seen it and we were talking about the fact that it's hard to watch severance when there's all these games going on so if you're a couple episodes behind you could skip fire fest if you are if you haven't watched the finale you won't be spoiled at all yeah because you're at the finale we have not watched it so we cannot we literally cannot spoil it because we don't know yeah and our guesses of what's going to happen probably will make you dumber yeah and less likely to figure out what oh our theories are really stupid but it's still fun talk we don't really do a bunch of tv talk we're all watching it miss wong brain of an adult yeah that's a spoiler she doesn't though we don't think so.
I don't know. We're just doing it again.
All right. Mount Rushmore, Stanford Steve, Fire Fest.
And then we'll see everyone on Monday to recap everything. Okay.
Before we get to Stanford Steve and our Mount Rushmore, March Madness things, game time.

Hank, can you pull up some games maybe for today, Friday,

as people are listening?

The best part of college basketball is here,

and we know you're as excited as we are to watch some big upsets

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We're going to do Rapid Fire, Mount Rushmore,

March Madness. Thanks.
Who wants to go first?

Hank? Hank. Let Hank go

first. Okay, Hank.

Hank. Yeah.
Do it.

Yeah.

Loser of this Mount Rushmore can't watch for the entire weekend.

Let me pull up my notes.

Apologies.

What?

We're not doing that.

No, I know.

Obviously.

Which way are we going?

Don't we always go this way?

Clockwise.

Okay.

Hank.

Hitting an underdog money line.

Ooh.

Okay. Good one.
Not working on thursday or friday yeah yeah good one i would i would say skipping work and or school yeah yeah yeah school is all you're working at school you're just not doing anything thursday friday yeah uh i'm gonna say uh saying my brackets busted because you fucked it too hard yeah i had So it busted. Yeah.
Same thing. My brackets busted.
Because you fucked it too hard. Yeah, I had whipping up your brackets.
Same thing. My bracket busted.
Busted. My first two picks survived.
Buzzer beaters and crazy upsets. You always remember when there's a crazy upset, when there's a 15 seed, a 16 seed.
I mean, 16 seed. I can actually close my eyes and see the Purdue just Dave screaming FDU is too small for them.
Or just Virginia. Yeah.
Those are my favorite. My second pick is going to be One Shining Moment.
That's a good one. Where here you are.
I'm going go life you're a shooting star one shining moment

one shining moment

one shot

i actually don't like one shining moment because it's sad for me because it's over

Thank you. One shot More tournament songs I actually don't like one shotting moment because it's sad for me because it's over It's more than a contest It's always the end where I'm like oh that was a lot of fun I wish I could do that again But it hits you in the feels It does but I just like it hits me in the feels like man I really should have enjoyed this a little more.
Yeah, it's kind of sad, too. It says, you always did your best because inside you knew.
That one shining moment, you reached deep inside. One shining moment, you knew you were alive.
Implying that you don't know. Like, the rest of your life stinks.
That sounds like something Rickon would write in one of his books. Yeah.
That's a little preview for our Severance talk after Severance. There's too much frolic.
That was the greatest Severance preview that happened after the fact. Yeah.
If you're watching Severance right now and you're behind, there could potentially be spoilers. But really not.
But really not because we haven't seen the finale and also we're dumb so okay who's up? I'm up printing out your bracket on Sunday yeah and the paper in your hands yeah my list sucks sideline reporters parentheses bon Hey, this is bonk. I had.
Say it again. Sideline reporters.
You love John Rossi. Sideline reporters.
Yeah. The females.
Females. And I guess John Rossi.
Good one, too. And then my other one is the camera on a dolly that they use for the Final Four.

I love that favorite shot in sports.

They show them running down the sidelines.

That buzzer beater was sweet, yeah.

And the camera's following them.

They only use it for the Final Four. Oh, I got you.

I know what you're saying.

I don't like it live, but I like the replays.

I love it.

Yeah, I do like that.

They should use that for every game.

They got to switch it, though, before a shot takes place. Yeah.
Because sometimes they'll do the bad angle shmangle. Mm-hmm.
Okay. Max? Riding a group bet with the boys.
Yes. Had it on there.
Great call. PFT.
I'm going to go with cutting down nets. Good one.
Cutting down nets. Iconic.
Yeah. Okay okay i'm gonna go with uh crying fans love that shit it's always awesome that is a girl northwestern kid there's just always the sad ram the colorado state ram yeah just iconic moments uh and i'm gonna go with a gambling one I love the rogue foul when a team shouldn't be fouling anymore.
And then one try hard is like, I'm just going to foul one last time. Then you can cover a spreader hitting over.
There's just, it's something about the kids. They don't look at the coach before.
They just, you're you, cause you always got it in the back of your head. This isn't over yet.
It's not over. There's like 10 seconds left.
You're like, if we could just get one guy who just is a little too eager, we could get back to the free throw line. My last one, I'm going to go with...
I'm choosing between two. This one no longer applies, but it was such a big part of March Madness for a while.
I'm going to include it. Impractical Jokers commercials.
I had Finding True TV. Yeah, Finding True TV tv that was the other one i was thinking about that's talking about all i saw a twitter thread today about and it kind of triggered my memory that way back in like the 90s we only got to watch one game and they would just have a live look-in for the other games going on it's crazy also one thing that they did do back in the day that I wish they'd bring back, there was like an hour dinner window where they wouldn't have a game.
It was awesome. Yeah.
On Thursday and Friday. I hated that.
Oh, I love that. You just go outside and get a little fresh air.
But then like you're – No, they don't. They're staggered.
You'll see. I thought there was still that like five to six.
There's less games in the spot, but it's not. I don't think there'll be a moment where there's not a game on.
Yeah, there's a 335 tip today and a 550 tip. Those aren't.
So they used to have like an actual. We can, you know, go eat dinner or go outside.
Okay, Max. What was that memes? I just thought it was funny.
Oh, just going outside. I'll go with Raft.
Bill Rafter. Yeah, good call.
I was going to. Onions.
Yeah, onions. Double order.
Man, I'm at. I'll just go with memorizing commercials to the point where you can guess.
I feel like there's been March Madness where I'll just sit and guess what commercial comes best. Hank is in mid-season form right now.
He's going to blame us. He's going to blame us.
Yep. We weren't even...
Whatever. Memorizing commercials.
I don't really give a shit. No, I mean, there's usually one very annoying commercial.
I said my list sucked at the top. I prefaced it.

Sad line reporters bonk.

I love it.

Hank, I got it. I like it, Hank.

I support that.

One of my friends texted me.

This one doesn't even mean anything.

One of my friends texted me yesterday.

But he still lost.

He was just like, F minus from Hank on Sunday.

For your day, I laughed so hard.

I did my best.

I showed up.

You did.

That was a good list, Hank.

What was your picks? The camera? I mean, it's a sick camera. Hot reporters, the camera, memorizing commercials.
Memorizing commercials. That's what everyone thinks of when they pick up March.
Underdog Moneyline. Underdog Moneyline.
That's good. Yeah.
We have missed wings. Oh, sneakers squeaking.
I just like sneakers squeaking. But you guys are just describing, like, this is Mount Rushmore of March moments, Hank.
Wings? That's every week for you. That was honorable mention.
I thought about, I almost said day drinking, but then I was like. Like riding a bell with your boys? That's every fucking Sunday.
No, but March. These aren't March.
Oh, yeah. You don't get it.
You guys pick the most general fucking things, and then they're like, oh, March Madness. He is in mid-season form, get mad at it.
What about instead of daybreak? Oh, my favorite part of March is gambling. Yes, that's what you said for your first pick.
Yeah, your first pick. I'm not a money line got it in your one-on.
That was literally your money line. You've made a brand off that for football.
All right, let's wrap this up. Max, I think you're right with the day drinking, except you've got to specify, like, I think, when I think of March, I think of drinking out of those giant tubes.
My favorite part of March is going to the bar with my friends. The big beer tubes.
The towers. The towers, yeah.
Beer tower in March. Sitting at like a Chili's and just getting...

Beer tower.

Ripping beer towers.

Yeah.

Jimmy V running around the court hugging somebody.

Yeah.

My favorite part of March is Friday because it means it's the weekend.

Oh.

Vasectomies.

Wait.

Hold on.

What did you say?

Friday is the weekend?

Oh, no.

This is fun.

I'm glad we did this.

I'm glad we did this.

That's the best.

We've been doing this show for so long that if you try to say one thing,

you just trigger a memory to get back into another argument.

You can't come back from that now, Hank.

We were right.

Say that we were right.

Yeah, whatever. There's layers to this shit, man.
There's levels. Friday's not the weekend.
It was one of the more preposterous dates. It's the craziest thing ever.
It starts at 12-0-1. The only other one I had, I love watching a team that's never seen a press.
It just always makes me laugh.

And you know you can get like, we can get eight quick points here.

Literally never played against a press. Sometimes I see that and I'm like, why don't teams just do this all game?

Yeah.

They just get tired.

Seton Hall is honestly a perfect example.

Seton Hall is a horrible basketball team.

Great at press.

Yeah.

Pugs nodding his head.

Fuck yeah.

All right, Hank.

So you somehow lost this Mount Rushmore and a previous argument that we had

Thank you. at press yeah punk's not in his head fuck yeah so you somehow lost this Mount Rushmore and a previous argument that we had for a long time yeah let's wrap it up let's get to Stanford Steve okay before we get to Stanford Steve and some winners for Friday we are brought to you by our friends at Truly Hard Seltzer is the first high ABV hard seltzer that actually tastes good.
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together let's drive. Okay, here he is, our good friend, Stanford Steve.
Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. He is our good friend, best friend, Stanford Steve.
We're going to talk Friday's slate because this is going to come out on Friday

morning when people are licking their wounds from the first day of the tournament chaos everywhere

Steve let me start with this before we get into the games what's the setup I got a couple things

yeah what all right yeah I want to hear your things but what's the setup for Stanford Steve for the tournament? Oh, well, earlier in the week, we'll have had our Calcutta pool, which is a giant auction. It's actually, I mean, if you've got a group of guys and big money, it's a different way to do the tournament.
And what you do is every team has a number. There's no cap or nothing.
And I want to say UConn, like last year, went for 35, 40K.

Like, it was around there.

So there's probably 10 to 15 teams every year that get in.

We do that Wednesday night.

And then I'm actually hanging out in Dewey Beach.

Starbird.

Nice.

Starbird Raw, Nalu, the whole deal.

We'll be there.

Family's coming over Friday.

So it's kind of scary because we go over there so many times during the summer but i always have my wife and kids um as this drops i'll be wondering how i'm doing because i'm gonna have thursday to myself no i love it i love is this spring break season no see down here uh my kids spring break is late like it's the week after the masters oh so it's it's all screwed up. Wait.
When you said by yourself on Thursday, do you mean your wife's not going to be around? Correct. Oh, you're fucked.
Why? So you have the kids or no? No. Oh, okay.
All right, good. I thought you meant you had the kids and no wife.
I was like, what are you doing, Steve? All right. And then so my other question about the uh setup um how do you navigate uh text messages calls whatever to our friend scott if things go poorly with maryland because we know um i actually got to see super bowl week i got to see the inside look of it because steve and i were hanging out out we had to go do a hit on SportsCenter which he's on every night and before the hit was Ohio State versus Maryland and Maryland lost in a buzzer beater and everyone all the producers were watching the game being like oh fuck oh fuck because they knew that it will change the mood of our good friend Scott Van P pelt so how do you navigate that uh i will wait to hear from him okay uh this this i mean saturday was so tough um knowing that the juice is back here in the dmb for the terps and he was on vacation and i i never i didn't i didn't reach out yeah and this is probably and i i don't think i i don't think we texted until I got to – or saw him until we did the podcast Monday.
So I could see him having to deal with things differently because he was with all family members. And he was with – his other side of the family is all Florida people.
So as much as I wanted to, I've been there before, and I know that I will wait to be spoken to, and that's how I handled that. Okay, that's smart.
The other thing I wanted to get to real quick was kind of a revisiting of our wing date that we had last year with Mark Titus. So Mark, he ate chicken wings because he's proven he's one of the boys right like Mark and Hank that's what he does so he ate I think 10 maybe 12 wings and he was out for the next what 2 days 3 days he had to call in wings 72 hours he, is it that he's that healthy where you put a little fried food and good sauce in you and that's what it does to you? That's the Cali boy.
Yeah. You can eat wings and go out for seconds.
You can have dessert. Yeah.
You know, you get so much sand between your toes when you're in California too long. You know, things start happening.
Your body starts getting affected outside in, whereas we're building it from the inside out. Right we have that inner strength.
That's our version of playing in altitude. Just keep adding layers from the inside out.
Yeah. If you made me eat like Mark for an entire week where it's like salads, I would just be, I'd wither away.
I'd probably, a strong win would take me. I would tap out.
You couldn't do it. Alright'm out.
All right, what do you have for us? I wasn't sure. Are we going to talk about the crown? Because I saw Villanova made the crown.
Crown is huge. Max, plug your headphones.
Put your headphones back on. Max, we got a crown question from Steve.
Crown, do you like Villanova's draw? Sure. We don't have a coach.
We're focused on bringing in a coach maybe kevin willard from maryland oh don't say that down here don't say that down here oh man i heard he hasn't signed the extension yet that's all i'm saying i heard he hasn't signed the extension yet all right well you got uh pretty good sources it sounds like uh but also max i'm through the bracket, and there's no teams from the great city from Philadelphia.

Like, not one.

Like, this hotbed, you know, the palestra you always hear about.

I think it's three straight years, no teams from Philadelphia.

Is that right?

Whoa.

Yeah, well, that's three straight years of Villanova

not being there to carry the Big Five.

So that's everyone.

That's almost half a decade.

I know. It's a long time.
I know. It's close to half a decade.
The SEC took all Philly's swagger. Yeah.
Yeah. That's bad.
For sure. That's really bad.
This is a combination, too, because I do want to congratulate Max. I saw him the night before the Super Bowl, and I just told him, like, you know, try and enjoy it, try and enjoy it, and he had nothing.
He was on one. And I just want to say congratulations to Max because I know how invested he is.
But I do – then I started thinking, guys, like, we've come a long way at Super Bowl week. Like, hanging out, like, you know, the Greenlight guys are on another level.
And, like, they basically hosted us all week, and they were great. But it was great.
Dan and I had a romantic dinner next to a guy who didn't say a word and wouldn't move, and no one knew who he was, but we moved on. But having no injuries, no fatalities, and I just keep going back, guys, to that house you guys had in Houston.
Do you remember the debauchery of that house? I mean, there were some big-time people there, and they didn't care what they were doing. I mean, Hank was a little pipsqueak back then too.
But like we've matured, like PFT, we were out, you know, hanging out. I never know where you're going to show up, but you always do.
Yeah. And I really feel like we've grown for Super Bowl.
Our intake is way more established, and we know what we're doing now.

Yeah, the pacing is a lot better. I was surprised that Russillo was kind of – he was the maniac this Super Bowl week.

I felt like every time I ran into you, Russillo was coming in at like 2 a.m.,

closing the shop down, telling stories about getting into a fight with Warren Sapp,

just like holding court in front of the entire house. Russillo's got a second wind in life.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
And then, you know what? There's no taking the air out of that sail the second wind, too. Yeah.
That thing just goes and keeps going. But, yeah, I think we've come a long way.
And, like, I compare Dan at the Super Bowl to Duke. Like, a Duke fan.
These Duke teams, whether it's Zion's team, Jason Tatum's team, I love those teams, but I always wanted more. To get Dan solo for our romantic dinner, he had nowhere to go.
It was just me. It was like, all right, you ready for another one? Yep.

He was a trooper. I give him

all the credit. Listen, I wish we could do

Super Bowl week in reverse where it's

like I have all the energy in the world on

Sunday and Monday, and then by the end of the week

it's just zapped.

I think about it because

you know what it is too? It's that

we do these live shows after a full

day of everything else. We're like, we

finish the day and it's 5 o'clock, then we've got to go

sit in a bar and do a live show, and I love it

Thank you. Because, like, you know what it is, too? It's that we do these live shows after a full day of everything else.
We're, like, we finish the day and it's 5 o'clock. Then we got to go sit in a bar and do a live show.
And I love it. But then I'm just, like, get me to a bed where I can just sit and watch your Stanford Cardinal play at, like, midnight.
That's the thing. Roussela tries to give me shit.
He's, like, oh, you're out, like, hobnobbing with people and, like, you know, star-fucking. It's like, dude, I'm just losing thousands of dollars watching ACC basketball in California.
That's what I'm doing. So it was a good week, though.
Yeah. No, fantastic.
It always lives up. We got our crew.
But I would say, we've come a long Yeah. That house you guys had, man.
Oh, man.

I mean, Loud Sean almost died.

He almost drowned.

He just got in the pool.

He was trying to play one-on-one with Jared Goff, and then he got in the pool and almost died.

Glennie Ball is passing out every night at about 11 p.m. in the chair with a beer in one hand and the biggest smile on his face.

Yeah.

NFL quarterbacks had a weekend there, boys.

Yeah.

Yeah, they did.

Oh, my God.

The best was Jared Goff called me the next morning and was like,

do you know where Blake is, Blake Bortles?

I was like, what?

Why would I know?

And he's like, why are you calling me to ask where Blake Bortles is?

They had a flight to catch.

Steve, real quick, though, before we get into the bracket,

you gave Max some shit for the crown.

How are we feeling about our Cardinal in the NIT?

I picked you guys to win it all.

Nice.

Actually, no, I didn't.

I picked George Mason over you. But I got you guys going a long way.
Big win over CSUN last night. Love our coach.
Almost came close to 20 wins. Had Louisville on the ropes.
Bad whistle in the ACC tournament. But when you have to travel from Palo Alto to play in Charlotte in your conference tournament, you know, you're going to get those kinds of things.
So, no, we're on the up. We're on the up.
We actually had people at the game for the NIT. Haven't seen that in about 15 years.
So, it's a process. We're moving along.
We got Andrew in charge of football. That'll shed light on everything else.
So, we're good on the farm. Love that.
Love that. All right.
Let's get into some games. So, this first game on Friday is, I'm going to say, it's the most important game for everyone listening right now because you went through Thursday.
You probably got your teeth kicked in. You know, every March Madness goes the same for me.
I go in Thursday morning with a well-thought-out plan. About 30 minutes into the day, the plan goes out the window.
I get absolutely smoked. But then you have Friday to wake up and be like, all right, pick yourself up off the mat, let's do this.
And the first game is actually like it's a great game in the fact that it's a one-and-a-half point spread. It's Baylor-Mississippi State.
I don't – I feel like Baylor had the type of season where I was always expecting kind of like what you're saying, wanting more. I always wanted more from Baylor.
And Mississippi State is one of those teams, like, I love Hubbard.

Their defense is very bad.

So, give us a win. We need a

winner in this first game. First of

all, when you wake up today, make sure you brush

your teeth and look yourself in the mirror and say,

I'm going to do it today. I'm going to do it today.

It's the most important part of the day

to be happy with yourself when you're brushing your teeth

and looking yourself in the mirror. Have that confidence.

It starts right there.

This is the toughest game of the day, I believe.

Yeah, I know. Like, Hubbard

I'm going to go to the next episode. to be happy with yourself when you're brushing your teeth and looking at yourself in the mirror.
Have that confidence. It starts right there.
This is the toughest game of the day, I believe.

Yeah, I know.

Like Hubbard has no conscience.

Like he leads, I think he shoots over nine threes a game.

And Baylor, to your point, Dan, I always look at that.

And you look at the eights and nines in this tournament.

You know, it's all the, in the seven and ten,

there's all the previous national champions,

and Baylor's in that category. I love Edgecombe, but again, if you wanted more from Baylor,

the thing that Baylor does, they play zone over 20% of the time and Hubbard will just shoot over it. So it's all about Hubbard making shots.
I do trust stands in this spot and Drew has been hot

and cold in this kind of deal. But Dan, the other part, and you love conspiracy theories, Baylor's point guard, Jeremy Roach, no replay the last four years.
Duke. Against Duke.
Nova guy. Makes me think there's something cooking in the books, seeing how the bracket got set.
But I'll stick with the SEC. I'm going to go Mississippi State.
Stands a style of play. I believe it frustrates Baylor.
Okay. Bad pick, but I respect the right to make it.
Yeah, these guys have Baylor in the Experian Busters pool that we have, so they'll be rooting for Baylor. This is one of those games, and I know you know this, Steve, from doing it forever.
I just have this chalked as no matter what loss. Yes.
I'm going to pick doesn't matter whichever side i'm not saying i have a strong lean either way whatever side i end up on that's a loss no and the problem is that's how i feel about all the seven tens this year too yeah i think to say like scott and i talked about he loves the eight nine matchups because the the namesake and i just i just look at trying to pick games and i I hate the 7-10s more than the 8-9s. But, yeah, it'll kick us off.
The tempo's the whole thing in that game. Baylor likes to get up and down.
Mississippi State is good playing slower. So I can't even give you a total there because it's about who dictates tempo.
So the 12-5 game, Colorado State-Memphis. I feel like everybody's picking Colorado State.
They are the favorite in this game. It's like this one and then the Michigan-San Diego game.
People are going back and forth between those over the most likely 12-5 upset. I feel like this one, we've talked about Memphis, that the fact that they got a five seed is very puzzling.
It's really strange. And Colorado State is probably the hottest team.
So I like Colorado State, but now I'm double-guessing myself, and I'm like, oh, I've heard so many other people say Colorado State, where now they're becoming a trendy pick to make, so maybe I should go Memphis. Understood.
The Hunter injury is enormous. He's a kid that's played at Texas, Iowa State, plenty of experience.
The reason Memphis got a five is because of what they did in the out-of-conference. They went to Maui and I believe went all the way to the final, beat UConn, beat a bunch of teams out there.
And I actually love what Penny has done. Obviously, you carry around the name Penny Hardaway in that area.
There's nothing bigger. And he basically fired his whole staff before the season.
He was like, we got to change some things because this ain't working. And they've had a great season.
The issue with this game is it's an automatic loss for me because Maryland's in the next round. So I would tend – like how – like San Diego State, you saw that Mountain West.
Like not great, but is that a one-game scenario? Mountain West teams, I'm sure you guys know this, when seated 11 or lower going into San Diego State's game Tuesday night were 1-29 in their last 30. Now they're 1-30.
So it – you know, Vegas obviously is dictating here because the 12's favored over the 5. I still think, you know, as a player, like I said, I have Maryland advancing anyway.
I would just take the 12 here so you have your 12-5. Yeah.
Okay. Dumb thing I'm thinking about doing and I want you to assess.
Oklahoma-UConn is a good game on paper here on Friday. The total sits at 147.5.
I'm going to take the over in this game, and here's why. I know I always take overs, but listen, I'm not going to bet an under in this tournament.
I'm sure they'll inflate the balls. Not one? Maybe a first half under, because I don't want to.
So that leads to my point. Maybe a first half under, because I don't want to get stuck in the free throws.
That's a star Tuesday night. Yeah, night yeah the free throws yeah the free throws at the end of games are crazy UConn and Oklahoma are both elite free throw shooting teams uh I think UConn's 11 I think Oklahoma's like somewhere in six or seven does is it crazy to be like hey this is a game where like maybe the over is a little too too low here not accounting for the fact that if this is a tight game which is spread says it should be we're gonna get a lot of trips to the line and these both these teams know how to make their free throws did you bet it yet i have not okay because i was i heard you guys and titus talking about the ball you know friday we get a whole day of seeing the balls you know thursday right so that key, obviously, with the issues that we've seen in balls taking care of them we've never seen.
But I have more of the belief that's because of a backboard and brand new rims for every site. I love the overhair.
Okay. Love it.
Both teams are going to be guns blazing. UConn, we know the intensity is going to be there.
Hurley will have those guys ready. The issue is UConn against good guards, and that's the toughest thing with UConn this year.
Forever in my life, growing up there, they've had a point guard that just makes plays and can get to the hoop and make shots. Forever.
And they don't have it this year. But on the other side, that's what even hurts them even more, is they've really struggled defending good point guards.
And fears for Oklahoma is tremendous. This will be an up-tempo game.
I think Oklahoma likes to play that style. And UConn could get caught up.
It feels like every game you watch them, there's a 10-0 run each way. And then it's just how are they going to respond.
So Oklahoma's been really good. Unbelievable cover at the end of that SEC tournament against Kentucky.

I mean, they had them on the ropes.

But, yeah, I love the over in this game.

The point spread's getting crazy high.

Yeah.

Loved it.

I mean, I thought I saw UConn when it opened.

I was thinking I took a minus three, and now I'm seeing like five and a half.

Five and a half.

So that scares me off there.

But I expect UConn to win the game, but I really like your over there. All right way, I just put it in because I was like, basically, like, if you said even I kind of like it, I would have put it in.
But you said you really like it. He was waiting for you to say, fuck you, you're crazy.
And then he wouldn't have put it in. That's the kind of direct action he needs.
If Steven said, fuck you, you're crazy, I would have waited until right before tip to put it in. The fact that he said, I like it, I put it in now.
Got it. It was going in no matter what.
Steve, I had a question for you about that. So you were saying, like, we'll see one day of balls on Thursday, and then on Friday we can adjust our bets based on what we saw Thursday.
Historically, do you know how that works out? Like, if there's a trend on Thursday where the under is hitting at a 70% clip, does that hold over through Friday or do the bookmakers adjust overnight for that? Well, the one year I will go back that I joined you on the Sunday before the tournament on selection. So they believe it was a day after, and then that spot got hijacked.
I was just going to, I think I gave out first half unders that day and it crushed. Like I think it started 8-0, and I kind of tapped out after that because I was like, I'll take 8-0 because there's that little space before the night games, and I'm like, I'm good with 8-0 on the unders.
You could have this. But it feels like it comes around on Friday.
It balances out. It always does.
If there was that crazy of a trend, the crazy tournament bettors would have it. But I look at more of the teams, PFT.
And, you know, going down this Friday, I see a lot of teams that Dan has rode overs of. And I do expect a lot of points on Friday.
Yeah, I think like Norfolk, Florida, which we don't spend a lot of time on a 116. I think Florida names their number.
Like as long as they're going. Their team total is like 91 and a half.
But I don't think it matters. Norfolk's going to try to zone them, which they'll hit threes.
They'll rebound. Like that's going to be a disaster.
The issue is Norfolk. Like when does Florida call the dogs off? Because they have 12 of them.
Right. And you got it.
I mean, Norfolk's got to get to 60 i would think yeah uh for you to be good and i just they're so good and swarm like you get the ball underneath the hoop against florida you can't even get it over your shoulder right like it's and it just gets punched right back in your face so uh good luck to norfolk state they have a great year they do they come in scoring a bunch of points i have looked at that over. So you're going to need like a 95-55 right around there, I think, because it's in the 160s.
I think Florida's going for 100. That's the thing with Florida.
They shoot threes, and then when they miss their threes, there's three dudes who are all close to seven feet just standing there getting the rebounds. Yeah, and you have to take the ball out of bounds after it just got slammed on your head exactly exactly uh steve how much do you put into speaking of florida and the sec in general of conference and like these matchups and what we saw in the regular season and like hey is the sec gonna just keep being dominant is it is it you know there's a you know the acc's been maybe, you know, they only got four teams in.
Maybe these teams are better than people think. How much do you play into that when you're looking at these games? Well, I'm beating over the head every night watching games with a former ACC guy and just hearing how bad the ACC is year in and year out.
And then they had like three teams. They've gotten the most wins the last five years, I think I saw, of any conference in the tournament, which is mind-blowing to me, knowing how everyone shits on it.
And I get it. The bottom of the conference is terrible, but I still think the top is good.
To me, it's still about matchups. It really is.
Now, if you're going with the bracket and everybody's already filled out, like I said, you can't have Florida or Duke. You know, you got to be different and just hope because everyone, I mean, everyone has Florida Duke in the final.
And that's, that's scary to me. And if you're trying to get, you know, people go about the bracket different ways.
And I just go against the trends. You know, it's tight.
It feels like everybody had the ones and twos playing the Elite Eight. So, you know, it's Florida, I mean, as impressive, I mean, the conference that they just stormed, they won every game by double digits.
And, you know, you hear about all the power ranking numbers and everything. I mean, they just dominated that conference.
So, they're as impressive. You know, UConn last year, you wondered, because I think the Big East only got three teams, so it was like, all right, well, when they start playing some better teams, how are they going to respond? But Florida's played the best of the best, and I expect them.
They're going to have to get tripped up in a game where a team is an A+, and they're like a C, C-. That's the only way I see them losing.
Big game for conference pride would be UNC Ole Miss. I feel like that swings a lot of emotion.
Like, if you're an ACC guy, you're definitely rooting for UNC to say, like, even in a down year, we can still beat the fuck out of you guys. UNC, do we owe Bubba Cunningham an apology? Did Bubba Cunningham get it right? No.
I do. I will apologize.
Seth Davis said that. He's like, no matter what happens tonight, it doesn't mean that this was right or wrong.
I was like, yeah, it fucking does. When UNC wins, then the committee was right.
And if they lose, then they should be banned from basketball. That was my issue.
Because as soon as it came out, I bet Carolina goes to Sweet 16 because of the matchup.

Like, I just can't do it with Mountain West teams.

And then you look at Ole Miss, who's a six, played in the SEC,

but they don't have – like, Carolina, you watch them,

and the biggest jarring thing, they don't have any bigs that are, like, pros.

Like, forever in your life, Carolina's had pros that are bigs.

But Ole Miss doesn't have any bigs really either.

So, like, I love the matchup for Carolina here. And, yeah, it's probably a conference pride deal.
And that's the other thing, PFT, is, like, you know the SEC haters having to hear that they set a record for 14 teams. And you know they are just waiting because they're going to set the record for most losses in a tournament.
Right, right. Only one team ends the season with a win.

So I just know that that is starting.

It's just a matter of how fast it accumulates. But you know that Army is coming to jump on the SEC.

Oh, but they got the record for the most losses.

Yeah, no shit.

Yeah.

So, no, it's definitely a big conference pride deal.

Where is this game? This game is in – let's see. Oh, it's got to be close.
It's got to be in Cleveland, right? Because they just played in Dayton? Fiserv. Yeah.
Oh, that might be Milwaukee. Fiserv, Milwaukee.
Milwaukee. Milwaukee.
So, yeah, South got to travel north. We'll get back to Stanford Stephen in a second.
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All right. Two other overs I'm looking at on Friday.
You can tell me if I'm crazy. Give it to me.
There's one I absolutely love. Okay.
New Mexico Marquette. Okay.
I think both those teams are going to try to get up and down. And then the other one was Arizona Akron.
That's high. Very high.
But they just fucking run. And I don't know.
Akron's going to have trouble. Arizona's not that big, but neither is Akron.
I think they're just going to shoot threes, and it's going to be one of those games that there's going to be crazy runs both ways. And I'm just expecting the pace to be so out of control that we can get to, like, you know, 75 possessions each side.
Yeah, this is one of the – probably the most interesting 13-4 when I look at the matchups. I know you guys were heavily invested in the MAAC tournament.
It's one of my favorite tournaments. I really think those teams are legit.
They played in Cleveland. Every team's from freaking Ohio.
So the building's packed. It's an awesome atmosphere.
And Akron, to your point, they just want to go. Like, all right, we gave up a hoop, but they make threes.
Right. That's the problem with the MAAC teams when they get to this level is their three-point shooting falls off.
And with that, I love the defense that Arizona guards play. But Akron's style, it's not like they prefer the three.
Everybody prefers an open three. But Akron's like, all right, fine.
You want to take away that? We'll go to the hoop. So their pace is incredible.
And it's getting, you know, it's a pretty trendy dog. I've heard plenty of people pick the upset.
I just, I like Arizona's personnel. And I love the fact, if they move on, that they already played Duke.
And they've seen that length in athleticism. So Arizona's kind of a sneaky team for me.
I knew you were going to take the highest over on the board. You never look at an Ivy League over or something like that.
You always want to go with the over. But, yeah, I don't see how you take the under in that game, knowing the pace that those people play.
And he's probably the biggest outlier in the tournament because his good has brought a team to a national championship game and his bad has not been good, and that's Caleb Love. I thought he was really good against Houston in the final.
And Arizona, I was really curious about them in the Big 12 tournament, but they were impressive. that bracket, I do my teams that can win the national title.

I have five teams in that bracket that can win it.

What are they?

Give them to us.

Wisconsin hanging by a thread.

Yeah.

Hanging by a thread because of the draw.

We will know how we're doing there.

But BYU is a team that everyone's picking against,

but they were on the list.

BYU can win the national title. Yes.
BYU leaving. Okay, I like it.
Yeah. Yeah, that's huge memes.
The Denver spot I like, but the VCU thing is kind of hard to do now. But our chips are in.
Don't worry about it. Then the other over that I love is Kentucky Troy.
Oh, yeah. Kentucky is not interested in playing defense.
Now, with Butler back, he's their, like, only line of defense because he is a really good defensive point guard. He's got plenty of tournament experience.
But, you know, the shoulder, you know, it seems like it's not to the extent of Malik Brown for Duke, but they need him to go far. But they're still going to shoot.
I mean, they're like my favorite team to watch in college basketball is the way they play five out. And Barea is an unbelievable shooter, and they could shoot it from all over.
So I look at that. And Troy's a team that beat Rico's Arkansas State team that he quickly jumped off the bandwagon of.
And they gave it to him. I mean, they go to the hoop

and they're pretty fearless, so

I like that over. Okay, so who are the other

teams that you think can win it all? You've got BYU,

Wisconsin by a thread.

Yep. Who else? Duke, Arizona,

Bama. Duke, Arizona, Bama.

But I have

said all year, Duke will not win

the national championship if they don't have Malik Brown.

Ooh, and he's out. I don't think he's coming back.
It's dicey. Yeah.
So that's – yeah, I have the list every year at PFT, and then I'm doing the – when you get the bracket, I go through that, and I'm like, oh, my God. So all this talk about Duke having an easy draw, I don't believe it at all.

We touched on Baylor and Mississippi State.

They're a pain in the ass, and that's the least amount of talk about the 8-9 versus the 1 than any other.

You go through the other bracket.

Everyone's talking about UConn getting a two-time champ going against the last

two-time champ in Florida.

Gonzaga's getting plenty of talk, and then Louisville gets to play in Lexington. But no one's talking about Creighton in that game.
So all those eight nines against the one have gotten more steam, I feel. And Mississippi State and Baylor winters is dangerous to me to do.
Are there best bets on Friday? We got the UConn over. You want to talk about it? I got one.
Go ahead. Liberty, Oregon over.
Just strictly because it's the lowest. It's the lowest, and it's also the last game, and I feel like crazy shit happens in those nighttime matches.
Oregon's always in that game, too. Yeah.
That game they had last year was brutal. Yeah.
When they had five guys. On Creighton, yeah.
The one I'm interested in here is Michigan State. I look at their team total under because they don't care how they win.
Like, does that make sense? Like, you want to shoot some threes? All right, we know we've got to shoot some threes, but

you know what? You're not going to make threes, so we're going to

slow it down and make it methodical.

But they're not interested

in scoring high numbers.

And you know with

Michigan State, and plenty of people have picked them to the

Final Four, they've had a great season

overachieved from what they were

at the beginning of the season. There's a bunch of those teams,

but they come to mind at the top. But it's, it's pretty high.
Like, it's in the 80s, I think I had. Yeah.
85 and a half. Like, there's no way.
Yeah. I don't see that.
And Bryant's got some guys. Like, Bryant's got some size.
They got a point guard at 6'6 that could do it. So, that's a really interesting game to me.
And I feel like Michigan State, they dictate a lot. And if they want to, let's make that team defend you in the paint.
Yeah, Izzo is kind of like Saban in that once it's over, it's over. He's not going to push it.
He's not going to, you know, Nate Oates, where they're just still running and gunning up a million. He kind of respects the game.

And they don't violate the three-point line.

Right.

They're pretty methodical, and it's been successful,

so why are you going to get away from that?

So that's one that stuck out to me.

Okay.

All right, so who are the other teams that you have overall

across the bracket that can win it all?

Be careful because one of these might have already been eliminated.

I know.

Well, now we know they cannot win.

There's only going to be one standing.

Midwest, Houston, Kentucky, Tennessee.

West, Florida, St. John's, Tech, Terps.

South, Auburn, Iowa State, Sparty.

Okay, let's actually talk real quick about Maryland-Grand Canyon in this game.

I like Maryland. I think they're a phenomenal team.
You you gotta be a little nervous if you're a maryland fan knowing your depth issues crab five is great but it falls off after that and in the tournament you're always just one bad whistle away from being like holy shit how do we have you know we gotta sit a guy with two fouls five minutes into the game what What are your thoughts on Maryland overall and making a deep tournament run? I really like it because they know what they got, Dan. I even look at Florida, and it's just like, I don't even know how they do substitution patterns because you don't argue with who's on the floor.
And then you look at it, and you're like, oh, so-and-so only played 12 minutes. Well, does it matter? You scored 90 and you won by 20.
Right. You know, but Maryland knows what they have to get from guys.
And that's, I think it's only six points they get from the bench a game. And I thought that was even high because I watch them every night and it's like no one scores on the bench.
Geronimo's a great backup big man. The issue is Queen.

You saw him get refereed differently in the Big Ten tournament.

Went to the hoop a bunch against Michigan and didn't get calls.

But Willard's got plenty of experience.

He is a guy that if a player gets two fouls, they sit in the first half.

That's a fact.

So does he change his ways there?

But I just love their shot making.

Their guards are tremendous.

They run great stuff.

The issue with Maryland in that starting five is their guards don't rebound.

But they're such an offensive team that I don't think they worry about that.

But I really like their draw.

And at some point, when you're a four, you play the one, hopefully. You get a week to prepare, and you roll the balls out.
It's been really, really cool. The Crab 5 thing, what these guys have done, how Willard has constructed this roster.
They were abysmal shooting the ball the last couple years. Just couldn't do it.
It was tough to watch. And now here they are, one of the best scoring teams in a power conference.
So I love the Terps. Steve, what's your plan in terms of your bet management strategy for what you're looking at? Like I'm talking about, do you have a pen and a paper? Do you have a physical piece of paper in front of you while you're watching the games? Do you have it written down on like a or do you just rely on the app this this is already written this has been a couple day tally of things we like um with the apps now it's kind of like do you want to look at how bad it was you know like everything's in there right where you look at it and it's like, oh, I still got this to play and I still got this in play.

There's some pen and paper. But, you know, if you're going out to the bars with the guys, you know, kind of leave that pen and paper home because you don't want that getting out or losing it because they're, you know, you got to instill it in your head already.
and you've got to have a mindset going in and worry of the intake of accumulating

over the course of a day. And now, I mean, what do we got? We've got a 10 o'clock tip and a 10-10 tip.
Safe bet is to be in bed for those ones. Yeah, my plan every March Masters, again, I'm losing better.
I lose every year. Everyone does.
Yeah, everyone does. Everyone does.
But you can't – there's got to be a moment where you just let go of all the numbers and analysis and things you've been reading and just let it fly. Just start seeing the ball, throwing it, throwing open spots.
Like that happens early on Thursday where I'm like, all right, I've done all the research. I got all my notes.
We got to just go. We got to trust the process.
And PFT, to your point, a lot has changed. I mean, growing up and seeing people, relatives, friends, bet with a bookie and just let the tab run, that is like, those don't happen.
Because you're on the app, so it's like, all right, am I going to put another 1,000? Like you really have that come to face moment. All right.
When you're, when you're looking at, you know, the deposits and the withdrawals. So, um, I think it's, you know, you got to know what you have going in.
Cause again, Thursday and Friday are absolute marathons. And I always just say, try to stay in the fight.
Yeah. Just try and stay in the fight.
And if you get to Saturday, you clear down, you got a couple more hours. I think that first game is not until 1.40.
But stay in the fight and, again, wake up Saturday positive as hell. Yeah, I like to write it down, though, in the first two games because there's so much happening, so much basketball going on.
I feel like I'm being pulled in seven different directions. I like to have the pen and the paper in front of me.
Now, you're right. If you're a bar yeah yellow preferably yellow no pet that's the best one but yeah if you're going out to a bar with friends i don't think anybody likes the guy that keeps like pulling out a sheet of paper and like crossing things off and checking all that stuff but we're going to be in a gambling rich environment on thursday and friday so yeah you guys streaming uh yeah yeah streaming them all streaming them all oldie coming oldie's not coming for these ones uh that would be i don't know if that's a good mix yeah he's he oldie's electric he was electric he's also on fire the video of you working on the car and him helping the garbage guys i could not stop instantly and it's not for the camera either like, that's only in the way I was videoing.
And the accent, and the way he says boys, like, I can't get enough of it. You should see, Steve.
He literally, like, the four days he was here last week, every time I turned around, he was, like, he was taking out the trash. He was restocking the water bottles.
Like, he was just doing everything. He can't sit still.
I listened to how it all came about when Yans was talking about how he's friends with Nasher. And, like, can you imagine him going in the Rangers locker room before a playoff hockey? Yes.
Hey, boys. It's incredible.
They love them, too. He showed me the video.
The guys went nuts. It's like a stripper.
He's like a male stripper for dudes, for straight guys. Yeah.
You bring him in, and he just gets you fucking pumped up. And he also takes his clothes off sometimes, too.
And he's got a vagina. Yeah.
Oh, man. All right.
Like that, I mean, you guys have always found these diamonds in the rough, but, man, it's said about you guys forever. Like, you just keep living up to the hype.
And I'm like, who the hell is this guy? And I can't get enough of him. Love the guy.
Can't get enough. But his genuine energy is just incredible.
And, like, it's awesome. Yeah.
The last two times he's come down here, the only two times, he's brought additional pieces of carry-on luggage with him just so he can fill them up with Canadian snacks that we don't have down in the States. And then he gets down here and just passes them out.
He brought, like, maple syrup. He brought candy bars that we don't have down here.
He brings it all. He brought two boxes of Tim Horton's donuts, and they sat next to him on the plane.
The guy's just a gem. And every morning when he wakes up in his hotel room, he packs all of his stuff back up and brings it to the office because he's like, what if I forget something? So every day he wakes up when he's here.
And he packs. He's going to the airport, and then he brings it back.
It's crazy. Those are my worst times when I'm traveling for game day.

But the other thing that I heard those guys is like, yeah, he, he,

like if he gets the call, he just tells his garbage guys in Canada.

He's like, yeah, boys, boys called.

Gotta go.

Gotta go.

Gotta go.

Gotta go.

Gotta go.

Gotta go.

Oh, it's great.

All right, Steve. Last question.
Rowback question. RHO question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take uh so obviously we watched thursday and this is coming out friday but you can still bet on this uh two national champions so people could possibly put a future on.
Give us two. Oh.
I'll give you a – they're on the same side. Alabama and Tennessee.
Oh. Oh.
Rick Barnes. Yes.
I love Rick Barnes. I know everyone picks apart Final Fours, but there's plenty of Sweet Sixteens and Elite Eights in this resume.
And you guys know this tournament's a crapshoot. I think it's the craziest way to win a national championship.
And stuff happens. Like last year, he loses to Kai Ziegler, his most valuable player.
Connect scores, what, 37? And they lose to Purdue. Like, what are you supposed to do? Right.
You know? Like, there's plenty of those instances. So, I do feel different about Tennessee.
And they'll probably have already been eliminated by Wofford. Wofford will shoot the 33s and make 20.
To your point,

they might be a better team than they were last year.

They don't have their best player.

Obviously they're better offensively.

It's not even a question.

And Ziegler like Ziegler,

like you hear,

you know,

Bill is in those guys talk like maybe there,

there's not five more valuable point guards.

And what he did in the SEC championship would keep going at Florida.

It was,

it was super impressive.

He shot it better.

He goes to the line a bunch and, and they got, you some guys in the portal that could score so um i i like i really like that team yeah both uh 22 to 1 so not taking auburn are they although they're yeah they're 22 to 1 right now it'll be down a little if uh because they i think they both play or at least tennessee plays on th. I might parlay them both to win the national championship.

How about that?

Also, I don't know if you heard this, Steve.

College basketball expert Jalen Rose last night was talking about

he was gassing up Auburn and what a great player Johnny Broom is.

So I don't know if you want to kind of follow his advice

and bet on Johnny Broom.

Good with that.

Okay.

I do feel like it's a buy low spot on auburn yeah it might be

it might be um uh women's picks oh women's picks you want to get those yes go give it to us there's at uh you could find it on multiple apps uconn and south carolina to meet in the final i believe is plus 400.

I like Ole Miss

to go to the Sweet 16.

UCLA's got the toughest draw. UConn, obviously, to win their region, I believe is around even money.
But, yeah, that list is way bigger than we've ever had it in the women's game. So I'm fired up for the win.
I've got three daughters, wife's a Hoops fan, too. So, like, you guys think – you know, you guys are getting the cave with the men's games.
We got them all. Yeah.
When they start Friday – oh, man. Yeah, we were – we got iPads underneath TVs, like, everywhere.
I love it. You find them in beds the next morning.
They're all over. You got to make sure they're charged up.
Charge the iPads. I like that, though.
Calling your shot on the exact

matchup in the championship game. Yes.
It's a good one.

I would have bet that. Alright, Steve,

thank you as always. You're the best.

Sorry we couldn't get Snooki to pair

you with. We'll do

it next year. That is tradition.

So, we reached out. She's sick.

She's under the weather.

Two things.

PFT, Chief Ensenko, met you down in Oxford.

Big caps, guys.

Come on down.

Rock the red anytime you want.

And I want to give good news to Mark Titus that the wing date's not on this year.

Oh, you're not going to be in San Antonio.

I will not be at San Antonio.

So Mark can breathe a big sigh of relief.

I'm still going to go with Chenoweth, and we're going to turn on the women's game, and we'll watch some hoops. Final four, big night.
Yeah. Actually, you know what? You could probably watch Scott and I after the game.
Yeah, perfect, perfect. What everyone loves to do.
Yeah. All right.
Thanks, Steve. All right, boys.
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Okay. Fire fest of the week.
You see that thing? I just think. Yeah.
I mean the people will know by now. This is in the morning.
Yeah. Produce 19 and 13 to the over under vibes though per Hank per Hank..
Peru is the ultimate under vibes. Hank, if it makes you feel any better, you have just as much college basketball expertise as Jalen Rose does.
If you heard that clip. It's the tournament.
This is where casuals come to play. Yeah, and that's fine.
Apparently not, though. Big Cat's trying to gatekeep my lack of ball knowledge.
No, I'm not trying to gatekeep. You asked'm not no i'm not trying to gatekeep i said you said i said you asked me what i had i said the over and you said ew purdue under no i said oh you said under and i said i have the over oh no no i said i have the over first so why under you said the vibes yeah purdue it like ew purdue i mean ew purdue is right but they do play they, like I said.
Their defense sucks. But at this point, the people will know.
At this point, I've got to just double my bet on the over and just make it a personal thing between us. Ooh, Hank.
Hank, breaking moves. The Boston Celtics.
Whoa. Have been sold.
Ooh. Oh.
Bill Chisholm, the managing partner at have been sold.

Bill Chisholm,

the managing partner at Symphony Technology Group,

has agreed to purchase the Celtics from the Grousepick family

for a valuation of $6.1 billion.

What does he do?

Billy?

What does he do?

He's the CEO of

Symphony Technologies. Symphony Technologies.
STG. So like clarinets and shit.
I don't know. Yeah, I was about to say, I feel like this guy did a really good job of naming his company where he's probably creating drones that kill a bunch of people in foreign countries.
Sounds like a great guy. But he calls it Symphony Technology, so you think of it and you're like, oh, that can't

be that bad.

The Symphony Technology Group, we leverage advanced solutions to kinetically eliminate challenges. Yeah, exactly.
Private equity. All right, Symphony Technology Group.
Yeah, they probably are invested in companies that are putting everyone in America out of work in the next 20 years. But they're called Symphony.
All right, tell me if you can decide what these guys do. We find, build, and scale mid-market software and software-enabled tech service businesses.
We have tailored our team and approach specifically to these sectors. We believe we unlock the potential of innovative companies by partnering with top management teams to build customer-centric market winners.
Okay. I know exactly what they do.
They just buy the team. They have McAfee.
No, they just buy the company and infuse cash. And Dell.
Sell it. No, here's what they do.
They buy companies, and then they fire everyone, and then they make more money. Yeah.
Well, no, they make everyone work really hard. You don't like capitalism PFT? Is that? No, they make everyone.
I'm just explaining what he does. They make everyone work really hard for a couple years.
They build it really big. Then they fire everyone.
Then they sell. Then they sell it.
So this guy is going to be acquiring the Celtics. So put that in basketball terms for me.
He's going to make Peyton Pritchard play 500 minutes a week. And then fire him in two years.
Bill Chisholm. Bill Chisholm.
So it's now the largest sale for a sports franchise in North America.

The Commanders were sold for $6.05 billion.

The Celtics were sold for $6.1 billion.

William Chisholm.

Hmm.

I'm trying to learn more about this guy.

Billy Chisholm.

Hmm.

Hank.

Hank, what are you doing? Are you on it? Are you symphony he's billy strings yeah you love this guy legend i do love this guy i'm also trying to find out some more information on him but he seems like a great guy uh clearly a very smart business mind and i'm excited to uh to see what he's got in store. Hopefully he likes the Celtics and isn't doing this as a business.
I'm sure that's what it is. I mean, I'm sure the private equity managing partner doesn't care about making money.
It's a passion for him. Well, that's the problem is our current owners like they were like, we don't care about the luxury tax.
We'll lose a hundred million dollars a year and you just want to be a championship winning team. That's what you want.
Yeah. That is what you want.
Time will tell. Time will tell.
Yeah. Okay.
My Fyre Fest of the week. Well, I mean, it's snowing today.
That wasn't ideal. Wasn't expecting that.
Driving into work today. And nothing major.
It's the best week of the year. Only real Fyre Fest or grape I have this week is just that the Severance season finale is tonight, Thursday night.

It'll be out by now.

And I don't know when I'm going to watch it, but I'm terrified of it getting spoiled.

So I'm probably going to stay up till like 3 a.m. tonight watching it.

Why would you say this out loud?

We may have to cut this.

Yeah, you got to cut this.

You're going to screw all of us. All do you but you know you know people are gonna people are gonna try to spoil you now it is true but yeah Hank's gonna watch it so it's really our fire fest is that Hank my fire fest is that we just talked about this and I'm gonna get it so now I have to watch Severance when I get home.
We're keeping it in. Okay, we'll keep it in.
No, you're right. Fake spoilers only, please.
No, we're keeping it in. Some people do fake ones, some people do real ones, and then you just don't know.
If you mix it up, it's totally fine. Yeah, you guys don't deserve that.
You guys don't deserve that. We can cut it.
I don't want that to happen. Severance is is coming out today Sopranos came out 22 years ago

but when I told you I was watching and enjoying it

you specifically went out of your way for months to spoil it

fair counterpoint

it wasn't a coincidental thing

we're just going to all

no no no we're not cutting it

I'm just going to have to watch it after the games as well

or watch it with breakfast tomorrow

I'm going to be up until 2am

it's 75 minutes

I'm excited

Thank you. We're not cutting it.
We're just, I'm just going to have to watch it after the games as well. Or watch it with breakfast tomorrow.
I'm going to be up until 2 a.m. It's 75 minutes.
I'm excited. You know what this is? This is like a relationship breaker.
This severance coming out right now because a lot of guys are going to watch it either late night tonight or early tomorrow morning. So they don't watch it on Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday, Sunday.
And then their girlfriends and wives are going to be like, what the fuck? You just watched the finale of Severance without me. Well, they're idiots because they just have to.
Like I told my wife, I was like, just watch it without me. I'll figure out when I'm going to watch it.
Because you can't. Like I'm incapacitated for the next four days.
I can't be relied on. No.
Yeah. So I told her, I was like, watch it.
Because like come Monday, you're not gonna be like you're gonna get it spoiled so just watch it do you have any predictions i don't i mean i don't think we should do that okay it's not a spoiler we don't follow rules on this show. Okay.
No predictions. That's facts.
I think it's weird that those brothers made out on the boat. Yeah.
But why did that chick stay with him after he unleashed the poisonous snakes? That was crazy. I also saw the meme of the Duke guy with the gun on his head.

I was like, fuck, it got spoiled.

This guy killed himself.

Didn't actually kill himself. Didn't kill himself.

Yeah.

And then Parker.

That's a spoiler for who hasn't seen that episode yet.

Everything about that guy and everything about Parker Posey's character.

I love Parker Posey so much.

It's so good.

Tar Heel.

Where's my Lorazepam?

My Lorazepam is all gone.

Do you know what we're talking about now? I do. White Lotus.
Tar Heel. All right, what's your prediction? Kier wins it all? No, I think they're going to set up a flashback season.
Yeah, it kind of isn't. It's not as big of a deal knowing there's another season.
If this was the finale finale. I want death.
I want multiple deaths. Oh.
I think Helly's going to kill her dad. Oh, wow.
Shit. That's what I want.
You just want the show to be Game of Thrones. Yeah.
No. I mean, she's showing.
I want a dragon to come out. No.
No. I mean, that'd be cool.
Like instead of goats. But she's shown that she wants to kill herself.
She's dangerous. She tried to kill Mark in the first season.
She tried to kill herself. like they think that she can you know she wants to kill herself she's dangerous she almost tried she tried to kill mark in the first season she tried to kill herself like they think that she's you know her daughter who's like the whatever of the company but they don't know they don't know heli down there okay i think he does want to be game of thrones yeah like they make dylan that's not a game of thrones that's a realistic take are you betting the purdue over or under under okay you told me to no i know i bet it for a lot a lot yeah oh god this is how do we always end up in this spot you scoff at me and then i yeah personally yeah okay uh we'll figure it out i'm no i'm gonna have to watch it at one in the morning today.
Yeah. Again, we can cut it because I don't want to.
No, no, no. Because then we just.
But you know you would get. Would you not see something in the next three days? Like, you know you would.
I'm pretty good at, like, my eyes. Like, when I don't.
I didn't watch the last one until Tuesday. I'm pretty good at, like, scrolling.
And if I see anything that looks like it I just scroll as fast as I can like I don't I kind of almost walk I kind of look at the uh internet like with the magic eye where like my eyes are a little crossed when I'm when I'm trying to avoid spoilers I think that uh that young girl that had the adult's brain inside her Miss Huang I. Huang.
Wait, she has an adult's brain inside of her?

Yeah, clearly.

Huang.

She was the manager?

I think she might be Mark's kid.

Huang.

What do you think about that?

I don't know if the time matches up.

When they were doing the fertility treatments?

Yeah, she was like 10, though.

Yeah. Time doesn't match up.
You don't't think so it's right when they graduated from college no what right that was like a flash their college professors yeah but i thought that it was i thought the timeline would match up no they were college professors not in she died like two years ago yeah miss miss hong is like 10 okay never, never mind. That doesn't add up.
That was actually... But I like the theory.
But you never know. You never know.
I like the theory. I'm not saying it's...
They could do anything with timelines. They could be...
I like the idea that... This isn't my theory.
This is on the internet, but it's that Gemma is an innie that they release to the real world to make Mark fall in love was she was never a real person. Yeah.
Twilight Zone stuff. She got severed to leave.
Yeah. The Twilight Zone.
She was always an innie. Sorry.
How pissed do you think I would be if they did the if I sat down with the therapy woman and she was like, you're out. He went 16 to know.
I'd be so mad. mad like you motherfuckers I want to feel that right now do you think I don't think that it's bad that Dylan's wife kissed Dylan's any me neither it's the same guy I don't think I would you get mad like I don't think I would get I'd be like yeah fuck it I think the problem still got it I think the problem with it is that uh he's totally he's totally different like she's falling in love with the any because he's totally different than what he's become.
He doesn't know that. He doesn't know that.
I agree. I'm just saying I think that's why she's kind of broken up about it, too.
I say fair play. But it's also weird because Irv.
You've got to support your bros. Irv and Burt, they treat their innie relationship like it's their outie relationship.
But Dylan and the girl do look at it as completely separate things. This is the worst recap of Severance ever, but I like it.
I like it. I like talking Severance to the boys.
I thought we were cutting this whole thing. What if Michael Scott just came out and he was Keir at the end and it was just a big episode of The Office? That'd be sick.
Yeah. What were you going to say, Max? The Twilight Zone thing is that they have the same episode names of a Twilight Zone episode about a mannequin going into the real world.
So that's why people back up what Hank said about Gemma was just a mannequin the whole time and that she's not even a real person. I don't like to read too many of the theories online.
I do. I read all of them.
I just get TikTok. My TikTok is just golf swing tips and sevens.
The problem with reading them, though, is they... Goats.
It's helped your golf swing. Fans of a show, I like to just enjoy the show because I think what happens with the show when it's this good, it is this good, they think that every little second of the show is very intentional.
Yeah. You know what I mean? We're like, what was this? But in severance, I think it might be.
That's the difference. A lot of shows, shows you read too much into it i think that severance has all that shit in there on purpose my personal take that's not but it's not all of it probably not yeah there's probably some crackpot ones not internet theory based just my my own take is that they have did not expect the show to be as big of a hit as it is and they are trying to stretch it, and they're going to do an entire backstory, either season or spinoff show.

Okay.

And I could see it being a season.

They're going to Ted Lasso it?

No, they're just going to go back 20 years and tell, like,

they're going to tell Burt's whole story.

They're going to tell Milichek's whole story. Oh, yeah, you told that Cobell's, like, factory story.

Yeah, and, like, basically, and then the next season is going to be

the continuation of this season.

Do they live in Alaska? People say it's michigan it feels like uh the up it's just always snowing and dark yeah there's a giant body of water well no i i did read that the um the like i was reading about the filmography is that right yeah cinematography cinematography thank you because i thought it's a cool shot uh show and i'm really stupid about this stuff but they said that they intentionally like the fact that it's always snowy and the cars and the and and everything they put in it makes it feel like you couldn't fully pinpoint what like time it is in yeah universe the cars are all shitty they're all from like the 90s or or 80s, but they have modern cell phones. Right, so you can't fully figure it out where it is.
I thought they had iPhones. No, no one on the show has an iPhone.
That's a big internet thing. Oh.
Because iPhone doesn't let antagonists use iPhones, so people are like, is everyone an antagonist? I kind of have a little weird crush on Cobell. She's like, there's a couple times.
You think she's good or bad? Oh, yeah. I don't know, but I think she's a bad E.
Yeah. I'd hit.
Yeah. There are a couple times when I'm like, oh, what is that? I think when she was younger.
Huff some gas and hit. Yeah.
Some ether, yeah. Yeah.
All right, good Severn stock. Yeah.
What's your firefest, Hank? That was it. Oh, yeah.
Good firefest. That that was it oh yeah good fire fest that's how we got here yeah that is how we got here okay uh pft uh my fire fest is that earlier this week i was coming home late and uh my the lock on my front door uh i lost the key to it a long time ago so i've just been going through the garage no big deal uh but i've got a lock on my back door through the garage to get into my house and it's been making it's been blinking red when i enter the code to get in for the last like two months i was like okay that's kind of weird but it was still working so i got there on i think it was sunday night after we recorded pmt what and that's kind of weird and i hit the code what could this mean yeah i just ignore this yeah i just ignored it i was like it's blinking red button i was like is this good so so i entered the i entered the code in and it blinks red but it blinks like faster and red this time and then it makes it's kind of cool it makes a pathetic sound like it's trying to open the lock and it doesn't and then i just sat there you have batteries and i hit it again and it still didn't work and i was like fuck this sucks i think i'm locked out of my house right now and so i keep entering it keep entering it and then after about i'd say seven minutes uh not probably not seven minutes i'd say probably like two and a half minutes it finally opens and i get in i'm like fuck yeah this is cool so then i'm going home again later no thought to change the battery no no no thought to change the battery so then i go home again later this week and i'm trying to get in doesn't open same thing happens it's like okay i'll just sit here for uh we'll give it two and a half five minutes and i'll just keep entering the code until it opens because that's what happened on sunday and i keep doing it keep doing it keep doing it and the door just never opens yeah you were yeah and so then i just go out and i fall asleep in my car in the garage and i just wait and then i got up like an hour later went back to it second time it finally opened up and i got inside at that point i thought i'd look it up and i had to change the battery on it so i'm able to get inside now but i slept in my car for like an hour i think on tuesday night uh no big deal it was comfortable in the car yeah but uh yeah that the the fact that it was blinking wasn't on right all right it was the electric yeah the car wasn't on in the garage it's all good i good good point though hank don't run your car in the garage yeah yeah uh but yeah i probably should have known that something was wrong with the garage or with the door lock the first time when it started blinking red a few weeks ago.
I was just excited to see you. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, that's cool.
Yeah, when you have a household appliance that starts blinking red like it's a bomb about to go off, maybe just Google it. But now I feel like I'm on, like, I got a clear path in front of me because I got a brand new set of batteries in there.
Would you be fine since it was electric?

It says not to run it in the garage just in case it starts a fire.

Got it.

So I just wouldn't.

It wouldn't be the I think it's a general rule of thumb.

Yeah, that's actually like a funny bit of like someone trying to kill themselves with

an electric car by accident.

Yeah, like what are you doing, dude?

Yeah, it just takes like an eight hour nap.

They wake up.

What the fuck? Yeah, in heaven. A guy who owns a prius catches his wife cheating on him and he just goes to the garage she's like i'm ending it all it just stays in there for like a day uh but yeah my garage is good now but that's a good point even if you have a like a hybrid or an electric car some of them produce some emissions so don't do that yeah but i was good um okay uh I don't really have a fire oh I guess like the only fire press I have is a on Saturday St.
Patrick's Day um one I was obviously uh just sad seeing everyone go out and I was like fuck I wish I could go out again and still be able to hang and then two I got uh I got bagels and donuts for my family and I got a green bagel and then my kids were convinced that it was poisonous and they made me eat it first so that was kind of fucked up that's your job you gotta eat that and then I faked dead for like three minutes that was kind of funny what Max you're just a bad guy why because the kids were probably I ate it. I know.
I know. It's like fake firing someone.
Oh, the fake death you mean? Yeah, fake death. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. I mean, it's funny, troll.
I was just laying on the ground. Yeah.
My daughter was like, get up. Get up.
Isn't that a good precedent set, though, that dad always eats first? Yeah. You have to wait till I eat.

I just thought it was kind of bullshit. Like, we should have drawn straws to see who could eat the poison.

Something like that.

Yeah.

Seems a little...

Like, if I go down, there's problems for everyone.

All right, Max, you got a Fyre Fest?

I normally don't do Fyre Fest.

I know, but I just asked. I feel like I did have one but I can't remember Your entire day yesterday Oh yeah DMV that's actually what it was DMV sucks DMV Illinois makes no sense Impossible to get an appointment Because everyone's trying to get real ID Real ID that's a load of bullshit Are they doing it again Yeah in May starting May 5th You need real ID And now it's impossible to get an I don't have it.
And now it's impossible to get an appointment, and then you get an appointment, and then you go to the DMV, and then you still wait in line for like two hours, and then you go from one line to the next line. There's six different lines you go to at the DMV.
Why can't there just be one line, you go to one person, you get everything done, and you leave. You go to eight different lines, and you get an appointment, and appointment means nothing.
Good, good. I hate the DMV.
Good job, Max. People were nice, nice though i will say that i people at dmv get a bad rap for being mean the people are nice there but too many lines yeah no the people are nice because i mean also they have a job that's not people people aren't walking to the dmv being like thank you so much for your customer service so uh it's a thankless job but yeah the line situation you just walk around everywhere i swear to god i went into six different there's a line outside to get to the line inside then you get to the line inside to get to the first person and then you go that person says you got to go take a picture i don't know why i had to take a picture i just took a picture three months ago then i have to go to another person at another desk then they actually fill everything out then you got to go to the cashier they you just you just a line to pay someone yeah and then you go to the final person and they print out your id there's six different lines yeah too many lines you have to take tickets at like four different places yeah and then they send you right in i ran into the illinois secretary of state last time i was at the dmv because i saw his picture on the wall they make that guy look like here yeah and then the guy that was on the wall just walked past me in the hallway and i stopped and i go you're that guy from the wall and he looked at me he's like yeah what can i help you with i was like i'm trying to register my license plate on my el camino and no one's helping me he's like okay i can help you with that they told me i couldn't put bitchin as my license plate bullshit that is bullshit but what's the guy's name alexi julius uh yeah good guy he reached out later Yeah, good guy.
He reached out later. Tried to make it better.
He's like, I'm sorry, I can't do bitching. If you want his number, Max, I'll give you his number.
You can complain to him. He looks like Kier.
Yeah. They just have his picture as soon as you walk in.
Yeah, there's candles that are lit in front of it. Yeah.
That's a good fire fest. Fire fest.
DMV. That was a good fire fest.
Shout Shout out Hank. Thanks for reminding me of what my fire fest was.

I mean, it's all you talked about yesterday.

I know.

I was pissed.

Hank just kept saying too much about the DMV.

You get two complaints about going to the DMV.

I said it like 15 times.

I love it.

I heard that they set up like a special place downtown that you can go to just for the real ID stuff.

Yeah, I heard that.

Oh, I need that.

Also, the reason I went to the DMV was because when I lost my wallet, when I broke my foot four months ago.

Oh.

I don't know. that you can go to just for the real ID stuff.
Yeah, I heard that. Oh, I need that.
Also, the reason I went to the DMV was because when I lost my wallet,

when I broke my foot four months ago.

Oh.

So you just got it?

I just got my license back.

That's a bad night.

Yeah.

Wait, so you...

I've just been driving around

without a license for four months,

but I have one now.

Okay, so you're back.

So we're going to try it.

Pug just kept being worried for me.

He was like,

wait, so you really just drive around with the possibility of getting pulled over? And I'm like, it's fine, dude. It's fine.
He's like, I would be freaking out. Oh, Pug's a rule for him.
By the way, memes, are you ever going to get the bumper fixed? I'll pay for it at this point. I already paid for it.
You did? No, I gave him $2,000 to get it fixed, and he just pocketed it. I couldn't believe it when I was watching the PMTV.

So for people to understand, so when I got a new car in like 2018,

I sold my car to Hank for $1.

Hank then kind of cucked me, and two years, three years later,

gave the car to memes, made me look like a bad guy.

$2.

Oh, you did?

No, actually negative $2,500 for me.

Yeah, so, but Hank got in a car accident.

Cars that I drove into a pole in my garage.

Yeah, it was like an eight year old. Like it was like seven years old.
The car that I sold to Hank. So it's like still got a lot of miles left and it's, it's a good car.
Great car. But yeah, Hank got in a, hit a pole a week before he sold it to memes, which was how long ago? Before he moved to Chicago.
So two years years ago two years and hank gave him cash to get the bumper fix i went and got it estimated they told me like how much it was going to cost and then i just gave that to memes and memes memes just has duct tape on his bumper in fairness i would do i would have done the same thing the only reason i i felt bad that i was giving you a damaged car but like but also it was if you had given, if that situation had happened where you're like, oh, I just got in a little fender bender. Here's some money to get it fixed.
I probably would have done the same exact thing. But it's not like a little fender bender.
It's a big hole on the. But it doesn't.
Does it affect driving? No, not at all. I fucked up by not getting it done right away.
There's duct tape like holding it together. I saw it on PMTV with Oldie, and I was just like, what the fuck? You got to get into another small car accident and then give that car to Jack.
Yeah. Just pay it forward.
Well, I thought about getting it fixed one time, and then I did the thing Hank did and backed into a ball. Oh, so that's a different one? No, no, no.
It's the same one, but when I thought about getting it fixed, I was like, oh, this is just going to happen again. So what's the point? I'll just wreck it again.
What's the point to get a new car? I'm just going to get into another accident. Got a bad blind spot.
Oh, man. Yeah, that car's got to stay in PMT forever.
So if we ever hire someone younger, you just give it to them. But it can never get fixed now.
It's just got to have duct on no I will get it fixed no Hank or Muse has to give the next person $3,000 yeah to dent it even more Pug you being a little pussy about Max not having a license some of us are law abiding citizens he is the president they don't let presidents drive normally. Yeah, true.

Facts. I just love that Pug was worried for

Max. That's very Pug-like.

He's like, what are you doing? I'm so nervous.

He found out on the way back

from our drive from Indy, and he was like, wait a minute.

So you've just been driving this whole time

without a license? I was like, I...

I'm surprised he didn't have a license. It's just not

on me. Pug, you should have taken it once.
Wait a minute. That doesn like, I'm surprised he didn't have a license.
It's just not on me. Pug,

you should have taken it once.

That doesn't,

wait a minute.

That doesn't affect the safety of you.

What'd he say?

He was like,

he said,

you have two other people in the car

as if like,

I like was driving drunk.

Yeah.

You have other people

with real licenses

that could not be in trouble.

No,

I think Pug was worried

about getting pulled over. Max gets found with no ID and then in Pug's mind, the cops raid the entire car.
Yeah, and you all get deported. Italians, you guys are going back to Italy.
You kind of chill. Oh, man.
Yeah, I just love Pug. You should have taken it a step further, and you should have citizens arrested him.
You should have literally put your hands on the wheel and pulled it over. Been like, get out.
We're taking you downtown. You shouldn't be driving.
If it wasn't a work trip, I would have thought about it. Oh, God.
Pug citizens arresting Max would be so great. Tackle him.
All right. Good job, boys.
Madness. Monday will be a recap of everything.
Let's do numbers. Three.
One. I mean, I gave you a beat.
He gave you a beat. I'm going to do.
Who plays the three seeds?

The 14?

Alright, 14.

If the 14 hits a three seed's gonna lose.

Okay.

99, Poe.

21.

I'll go 64.

I'll go 85. 81

I saw the one

81

Sorry memes

It's okay

One day

No

Love you guys. Thank you.
Thank you.