NCAA Tournament Mega Recap, Lack Of Upsets, Storylines, Cal vs Pitino, Duke's Dominance And More

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, it's just the boys. We're breaking down all of March madness, everything we saw the past four days.
It's been chaos.

Speaker 1 Not the greatest tournament, but there's some still some notable moments, some fun moments. We're going to talk about all of it.
We're going to do who's back of the week.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like a football Monday. It's just us, boys.

Speaker 1 We are also going to, yeah, recap everything we missed. Maybe Tiger Woods dating a Trump.

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Today is Monday, March 24th.

Speaker 1 And boys, we've just watched a lot of basketball.

Speaker 3 We mainlined that. That was four days, tough four days of watching hoops, sitting on a couch.
My steps, I think my steps per day topped out at about 500 or 600. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Which is the way that God intended.

Speaker 1 yes it was a great weekend of sports it ended up being pretty chalky but that's okay yes we got some great matchups coming up yeah so uh we're gonna go through each region and break it down i do want to say before we get into it uh it when you're listening to this right now on monday morning this is one of the toughest mondays of the entire calendar year i'm i stand with you uh

Speaker 1 It's you get four days where you just watch nothing but hoops, the moments in between the games, the moments you wake up on Saturday and Sunday, you're just waiting for the hoops to start again.

Speaker 1 And then Monday comes and they rip it all away from you. And I just sit there on this Monday and I kind of stare blankly outside.

Speaker 1 I'm basically Pablo Escobar staring outside of a window, being like, well, where's the basketball?

Speaker 3 No basketball.

Speaker 1 Why isn't there basketball? We were saying it in the cave. The NIT should just play all day Monday and wean us off.

Speaker 3 Yeah, when's the crown play, Max?

Speaker 1 We need something to win.

Speaker 3 I know you're dialed. The Crown should be playing.

Speaker 1 It's the week of the final four.

Speaker 1 You know what it should be? It should be opening day. MLB would be smart to be like, hey, here's opening day.
I know you guys

Speaker 1 have just went through four days where you thought maybe it's the same feeling of being on a bachelor party with your best friends and having that moment where you're like, man, maybe we should just do this.

Speaker 1 Maybe we should get a house together in San Diego and just live just the boys, all 15 of us, and just say fuck off to our families.

Speaker 1 And then you have that moment where you're like, fuck, I got to go back to real life. That's today.

Speaker 3 I think it probably does save some relationships, though because you just spent the last four days watching sports all day on tv if you did it again on monday yeah you might have to have a hard conversation yeah i

Speaker 1 i know it's a personal problem but i just i i always struggle with this monday and this isn't just because you know when we started with that our job is sports this was before barstool before pmt like this monday always sucked for me because i was just like that was it another another another year and then you look at the you look at the thursday matchups for sweet 16 and you just you look at the schedule and say, where are all the games?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 1 it feels like there should be more games.

Speaker 3 If you got home on Monday from work and then maybe your significant other was like, okay, we got, you made me wait to watch Severance, so we got that recorded. White Lotus recorded.

Speaker 3 Let's sit down, have a family night, and you're like,

Speaker 3 UAB is playing UNT. And I want to watch it.
And I kind of want to put some money on your game.

Speaker 1 And the people that work like a corporate job have to go in and listen to, you know, their coworkers who don't even really watch sports talk about their brackets.

Speaker 1 The brackets yeah it's a brutal day this isn't i think this day is probably the number one water cooler day yeah and it's it's yeah and this year it's going to be a lot of man what happened to march madness what happened to the upsets what happened to cinderella i i just i'm just saying i'm here with you guys i know that uh our job is a little different than people listening to this show but you you are seen i'm i'm i'm shining a light on how much today sucks for you because you're sitting in your car right now you're on your commute You're like, man, it's just like the dopamine of wall-to-wall hoops.

Speaker 1 When they take it away from you, I'm an addict. I need the hoops.

Speaker 3 But if you are a fan of one of the teams that's still in it, this is a great Monday. Yeah.
Because now you get to just relive the entire.

Speaker 3 You got two games that you get to think back on, read all the stats from.

Speaker 1 Make plans for Thursday or Friday of where you're going to go drink and hang out. Yeah, no, it's are we going to go to the game?

Speaker 1 All right, so, well, before we do the regions,

Speaker 1 is March Madness gone? Have we lost March Madness?

Speaker 3 There was no Madness this year. It was too sane.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the biggest culprit that I've seen being blamed is NIL and Transfer Portal.

Speaker 1 I think that's actually a fair critique because what has happened with a lot of these games is that, or a lot of these teams, a lot of the smaller conferences will take a shot on a guy who maybe wasn't a high-level guy out of high school.

Speaker 1 Maybe was a Juko, maybe didn't grow all the way. They take a shot on him.
He's good for a year.

Speaker 1 And then he gets plucked in the transfer portal in NIL, and all the Power Five schools are basically picking apart all the smaller schools and taking their best players, and then you don't get upset.

Speaker 1 I actually think it's a fair critique. I think you need a little bit more of a sample size than two years, but we did lack, especially the first two days, the madness.
We had no...

Speaker 1 What would be the moment we even looked to for the first two days? McNeese?

Speaker 3 McNeese, yeah. McNeese in the first round.

Speaker 1 Robert Morse for a half.

Speaker 3 That was pretty mad. Also, was it Norfolk? Norfolk? Norfolk was, they were plucky.
They were frisky.

Speaker 1 Norfolk for

Speaker 1 the middle 20 minutes of the game. Because they lost by

Speaker 3 30. The story, the underdog story, the feel-good Hoosier story coming out of this weekend was those plucky underdogs at Arkansas.
Coach Cal.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 He is the one Cinderella that's still left, and he's at Arkansas. They were 10 seeds, so it still counts.
But yeah, we don't get the mid-majors, which is unfortunate.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I think that's good.

Speaker 3 But also for college basketball, it's good to have one, maybe two of those. Yes.
And the matchups are all really good.

Speaker 3 If you look at what we're looking at for Thursday and Friday, it's going to be some good games.

Speaker 1 I'm a big believer, and you don't want the St. Peters going all the way to the Elite Eight and having a blowout game in the Elite Eight.

Speaker 1 I want the basketball to get better and better as the tournament goes along. But we absolutely missed out on having one or two crazy upsets.

Speaker 1 I think it was the first time time in 15 years, I read, that all the one, two, threes, and fours won their first-round game. So that tells you everything right there.

Speaker 1 Like, we didn't have that one moment, a buzzer beater or a 15-point dog winning it all.

Speaker 1 It was also, I also was laughing because

Speaker 1 the gambling influencers online has become a popular business. And I saw a few dudes doing TikToks being like, here's the plan for March Madness.

Speaker 1 We take every single money line dog straight in the first two days.

Speaker 1 Were you one of those influencers saying I was not?

Speaker 1 And it's like, this was not the year to do that. This was not the year to do that.

Speaker 3 There was no madness. Yeah, we lacked madness.
Very little madness.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I'm holding out hope that we'll get the madness in future years, but it would be crazy for us to do this show on Monday and be like, wow, that was incredible. That was the best thing we ever seen.

Speaker 1 It wasn't. We lacked madness this year.

Speaker 3 I still had fun. But also, if there's anything that you don't like about college sports, the very first thing that you can always point at is you're like, NIL.
Transfer portal. NIL did it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. NIL did do it.

Speaker 3 But it is kind of weird that the transfer portal is now open. Yeah.
It opened up on Sunday night. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, it's like college football. They do the same thing when the playoffs are still going on.
The transfer portal is happening. I was saying in the cave as well that like,

Speaker 1 if you're...

Speaker 1 say like 50 billion, you have 50 billion, you don't own a sports team, just start doing cool guy moves that everyone will be like, man, that guy rocks.

Speaker 1 If I were Mark Cuban, I don't have the Mavs anymore. I would just be like, hey, you know what? I need the madness.

Speaker 1 All the small schools in college basketball and Division I college basketball, I'm going to give you $3 million each. Any non-Power Five school per year.

Speaker 3 So then you get some of the second guys from the Power Five, from the big program.

Speaker 1 They'd be able to keep some of their guys. They'd be able to keep their guys, their homegrown guys.

Speaker 3 You're still going to be able to get outspent by the big program. Of course, but they.
And now the SEC learned that

Speaker 3 once you throw money at all the sports that you used to just throw money, like football was the one place where they would dominate for a while.

Speaker 3 And now the SEC is like, oh, we can pay basketball players too. Let's go.

Speaker 1 But I would like some cool, some rich guy to be just like, win cool guy of the year. We'll give you the award.
Win cool guy of the year.

Speaker 1 And just say, hey, oh, Akron, you have a guy you took a shot on who was incredible this year, and now he's going to get $250,000 from a Power 5 program. Well, here's $250,000.
Keep them there.

Speaker 3 Have fun. For the billionaires that don't have a school that they like already.
Right.

Speaker 1 Or just for billionaires who love the madness.

Speaker 3 I would say that billionaires that love madness probably have already found a school that they're giving money to.

Speaker 1 And also, they don't give a fuck about the madness.

Speaker 1 They truly wouldn't care. Like, oh, man, I can't believe.
Oh, boo-hoo, I have $50 billion and there wasn't enough madness. That's probably not going through their heads.
Probably not.

Speaker 1 I'm just looking out for the regular guys.

Speaker 3 The billionaires like that, they're like, oh, the sports is on TV? Yeah. You guys are watching sports ball.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about this take more.

Speaker 1 What happens when they run out of the money? What do you mean? So does that billionaire just have to give a billion every year? Maybe not a billion, but like 500 million.

Speaker 1 If you had 100 billion, that's a lot of billions.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'm not a financial advisor. I'm not very good with my own money, but this is what I would do.

Speaker 3 I think what Big Cat's asking for is very polite. Although 100 billion, if the crown prince of Saudi Arabia wants to get involved in mid-major college basketball, now is the time to do it.

Speaker 1 And you have to continue to do it. Here's what you should.
Okay, fine. You know what? Just one of these hundred billionaires, just give me the money and I'll handle it.

Speaker 1 I think that'll go badly for you. Why? Because it doesn't sound like you're thinking that.
How sick would it be first? The king of the little guys.

Speaker 1 When we were talking about it in the cave at first, we were like,

Speaker 1 Yeah, you said 20 million to 200 schools. I was like,

Speaker 1 no one is that rich to just like do this every year.

Speaker 3 It was like, if you gave 20 million, you wouldn't have to give it a 200. That's what he said.

Speaker 1 He said, I'll get 20 million to 200.

Speaker 3 Here's the deal. With the mid-majors, there's mid-majors and then there's mid-mid-majors.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like some of the familiar names for the mid-majors that we like to see running.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's the one-bid leagues that I would just be like, all right, pick the one team and I'll give you the money this year. Yeah.
Like you guys, you guys could road.

Speaker 3 Like the Mountain West gets four or five.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they get, they get, yeah, they would get, yeah, they would, they would get to pick four or five, but like, yeah, the patriot lead you get one team yeah i'm gonna boost one team maybe i'd spin a wheel that would be a cool selection sunday where it's like every year right before uh the transfer porter opens you everyone gets to tune in it's like all right lehigh there's you're getting 20 million this year

Speaker 3 administrative errors like the mac gets five teams but it accidentally goes to the mac yeah the two a mac oh i would boost the fuck out of the mac that would be awesome if i just gave a billion to the mac yeah

Speaker 1 all right maybe not the smartest idea but it was an idea I had. This is kind of max.
My math on this was like the meme that goes around every now and then.

Speaker 1 We're like, what, if Bill Gates could just give a million dollars to every person in American and solve poverty and someone does the money, the numbers are like, dude.

Speaker 3 You get $120.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have to.

Speaker 3 Well, you know what's a better use of this money is if you just pay off refs. Yeah.
You'd only have to pay off like 15 guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that too. Or pay off the big boys to be like, hey, why not maybe get upset upset today?

Speaker 3 Take a dive.

Speaker 1 Yeah, here's a million bucks. All right.
Let's get to the regions. Let's get to the games.

Speaker 1 Let's start. We'll do the bracket in order.
This bracket, by the way, that was printed out for us on Sunday night with none of the regions has set me back. I couldn't name any of the regions.

Speaker 3 Well, there was a first bracket. You got the second bracket.

Speaker 3 There was a different one that was on your desk because I got the first one and it's good. Auburn, you want to start in that?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 we'll do it. We'll do it in order.
That's the south. Yeah, it's in the south.
It's in the top left. Auburn, Creighton.
Auburn,

Speaker 1 I feel like there was the vibe that Auburn had bad vibes. They had lost, you know, three out of four, I think, going into the tournament.

Speaker 1 This was one of those games where everyone, I feel like, wanted Creighton to win, bet Creighton, and Auburn. It was a very close game.
And then Auburn was like, wait, we're Auburn.

Speaker 1 We're better than you. And I think it was a tie game with 10 minutes left.
And then you looked up and it was a 10-point game. And Janiai Broome didn't even play well.

Speaker 1 Like, he was missing every little bunny.

Speaker 1 The scariest part about Auburn as a team is Pettiford, the guy who comes off the bench, who's an NBA player, he was awesome. And they have that guy coming off the bench.

Speaker 3 And they also have the

Speaker 3 crazy guy, Chad Baker Mazzara.

Speaker 1 Yeah, who gets kicked out of a couple of people.

Speaker 3 He had a great game. I love watching him play.
He's got a little George Pickens in him. He just goes nuts, and he is a force.

Speaker 1 The DNA of guys that are just really great rebounders, they're fascinating to me just because they're always fighting and he's one of those guys he takes over the line sometimes but uh yeah he was he was somewhat dominant in that game i wish that uh and max would not like this uh max by the way rip the big east no teams in the suite 16 that's one of my takes anti oh that was one of your i i tasked max max is was is doing what hank did last week he's he's on the ir right now i said bring some takes and you said you're gonna bring some takes i don't have a i don't have the strongest takes but i i got I got talking points.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Big East out. Creighton was not the...
Were they the last team in? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did they play Big East?

Speaker 1 Oh, UConn. UConn was out on Sunday.
I wish Colk Brenner and Ashworth could just stay at Creighton forever. They're just such college basketball players.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it sucks that that's kind of the end for them getting bounced in the second round. But what was your Big East take?

Speaker 1 Just that this tournament doesn't really matter anymore because there's no more Big East teams. I like that.

Speaker 3 Your take should be that the Big East tournament is actually the hardest tournament to win. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's the national championship. St.
John's. Like SEC, there's too many SEC teams.

Speaker 1 Big East is college basketball. SEC is football.

Speaker 3 They're carpetbaggers.

Speaker 3 They're just acting like they've cared about college basketball all along. But you know that in your heart of hearts, if you're Auburn,

Speaker 3 what would you trade for a football? How many basketball national championships would you trade for a football?

Speaker 1 Five.

Speaker 3 You think five?

Speaker 1 No less than five. I do agree with this taking that the SEC has two and a half basketball schools

Speaker 1 that I respect. Just basketball schools.
Kentucky, Florida, and half of Tennessee.

Speaker 1 None of the other, like, Auburn's great. Auburn could win the national.
They might win the national number one seed, but I don't respect him as a basketball school. That's football.
Like, that's not

Speaker 1 an insult. That's football.
And

Speaker 1 the fans aren't the same. It's football.

Speaker 1 Because, like, when you're, when you're watching SEC basketball fans you know you're only thinking in the back of your head like they don't they don't care about this like they care about football correct when you look at big east big east basketball fans it's everything right right it's all you got it's all you got i mean kentucky is is definitely kentucky is an outline and florida because of the history right like florida has the history of being really good at basketball so i count them as well for sure for sure and tennessee as well half half of yeah i'm fine with half you like that take two and a half i think big east it's all of them yeah i think tennessee is up there though because they do care.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no, but football at Tennessee is obviously

Speaker 3 a clear one. They care in a way that they deeply care about because they've never won.
Right.

Speaker 1 But I respect them. I'm giving them a half because I respect their basketball tradition and they do care.
It's more that football still is the king there.

Speaker 1 And Florida gets it just because they've won titles.

Speaker 3 The fact that Alabama has won so many titles in college football and that I think it would still it would it would probably take Bamba fans like what

Speaker 3 six seven Natties in football to trade for a basketball one?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. But yeah, Creighton out, Big East, out, Auburn, I think they're fine.

Speaker 1 Obviously, it gets tougher going through, but like, this was the first game where I think everyone was like, I don't know how Auburn's going to, Auburn's going to play here.

Speaker 3 Silly, shaky in the first round.

Speaker 1 Right. Well, and they finished the season not looking great, and I think they're fine.
And they have that, like I said, like, Jania Broome didn't play that well.

Speaker 1 I felt like he missed every short short shot that he was taking. And

Speaker 1 he's the national player of the year.

Speaker 3 He's going to be fine. And then Michigan next, right? Yeah.
That's going to be interesting to see how they go up against the big guys on Michigan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Michigan-Texas AM was one of our good games this weekend,

Speaker 1 even though the final score doesn't look that great. But this was a great game in the fact that it was like punch-counter-punch, where it was very tight in the first half.
Then Texas AM

Speaker 1 was up 60 to 50 with 13-17 left, and Michigan went on a 31-12 run in the next 10 minutes. Dusty May is just a hell of a coach.
He said it on our show. He's like, we needed a reset.
We need a reset.

Speaker 1 What have they done since then? They won the Big Ten tournament and now they're in the Sweet 16. And like his use of

Speaker 1 like Vlad got in foul trouble. He was subbing him in and out, offense, defense.
Vlad was a beast.

Speaker 1 It was a tough day for any Ohio State fans because Rowdy Gale, who transferred to Ohio State, was unconscious.

Speaker 1 Michigan's just like,

Speaker 1 I just think Dusty May is one of those guys that I'm putting him in like tournament coach.

Speaker 3 Well, yeah, and Vlad's a tournament player. Big time tournament player.
And they have, this is interesting.

Speaker 3 What's the guy's name from Michigan? Is it Donaldson? Yeah. I think Donaldson was, he was at Auburn.
Yeah. And then transferred to Michigan.
Now they're going to be matched up.

Speaker 3 And I actually like watching Wolf play, too. Oh, he's awesome.
Wolf is.

Speaker 1 He is a little addicted to spin moves.

Speaker 3 He's addicted to spin moves, and he might appear kind of frumpy when you first look at him, but I think it's deceptive how fast he is.

Speaker 1 No, and he also is seven feet, and he passes so well.

Speaker 1 If Michigan, basically, Michigan is going to come down to, like every Michigan game, the turnovers. Can they limit the turnovers?

Speaker 3 And Michigan just wants them to keep winning because the longer they win, the longer they have to kind of push off the reality that's hitting some of their other programs right now.

Speaker 1 Oh, what are you talking about? I don't know. I don't know.
David Weiss? I don't know.

Speaker 3 There's just other things.

Speaker 3 Other things going on. But we don't don't have to worry about the other things while sports are still happening.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 3 That's how it goes. It's like Florida.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ole Miss, Iowa State, Chris Beard, another tournament coach. Like, Ole Miss, I don't think anyone expected them to make noise in this tournament.
They had a good season in the SEC.

Speaker 1 They weren't one of the dominant teams in the SEC. They killed UNC on Friday, and then they killed Iowa State on Sunday.
Tournament coach.

Speaker 3 So is this the first Sweet 16 that they've been to since, was it like like 2000? It's been a long time. Something like 20 years? Because I thought that Marshall Henderson had got there.
No.

Speaker 3 But he didn't. It's just that anytime he won a game,

Speaker 3 you thought that they just won the Final Four game.

Speaker 1 He let you know that he won the game.

Speaker 3 He let you know that they won. But yeah, Chris Beard and the guys, they looked very, very good today against Iowa State.
I asked Mark Titus this, big kid, I'll ask you the same question. Yes.

Speaker 3 Is it time to prepare to have a conversation about Otzelberger?

Speaker 1 In what way?

Speaker 3 Just a conversation of like when can we expect more than Sweet 16s?

Speaker 3 Because I feel he's a victim of his own success at this point.

Speaker 1 He's only been there four years. Yeah.
And he's gone to two Sweet 16s in four years. I would say not yet.
Because Iowa State's not exactly the easiest place.

Speaker 1 They don't have like the most resources and the most fertile recruiting ground. I'd say he's a really good coach.

Speaker 1 Four tournament appearances in four years, two Sweet 16s of those four.

Speaker 1 I would say TJ Altsberger is a pretty damn good coach. Maybe a little too tight on the polo.
That's going to work on that.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I think he's a very good coach.

Speaker 3 I'm not, to be clear, I'm not having the conversation.

Speaker 3 But I'm saying, is it time for others to begin to prep for the conversation? Right. I think maybe it's okay to prep.
It's never too early to prep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think going

Speaker 1 in the next couple years, if he needs to make a deep run, but the tournament's so fucking hard, man.

Speaker 3 He's such a good coach that now you're like, we expect more from you.

Speaker 1 But I mean, one of his best players gets hurt right before that. He kind of kept that from the media, got himself a better seed.

Speaker 1 But yeah, no, I think he's a very good coach. And I mean, he was a very good coach.
He took a small school. I can't remember what was he before that?

Speaker 1 I know he was at UNLV, but where was he before that? Because I know he took them to the tournament as well.

Speaker 3 South Dakota State? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I think he's a very good coach. UNLV.
No, yeah, but before I said UNLV. Oh, yeah, South Dakota.
It's a late night. Yeah, it is a late night.
No, I'm saying last night.

Speaker 1 I'm just being helpful over here. Last night.
Who fucking brought this up? Is tonight going to be later than last night?

Speaker 1 Yes. Oh.

Speaker 1 Is it at least a coin flip?

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 1 I am bringing

Speaker 1 as much as I would any other. You are bringing a lot.
You're bringing a lot.

Speaker 3 If you're going to hoot with the outside.

Speaker 1 I'm still talking more than Hank.

Speaker 1 It's true. Hank hasn't said anything.
DJ Offserville on the hot seat, Hay? No. Crazy take.

Speaker 1 Terrible take.

Speaker 3 That wasn't the take. The take was it's time to prepare to have a conversation.

Speaker 1 Also a bad take. Not a hot seat.

Speaker 3 Just a conversation about him.

Speaker 1 No. No.

Speaker 3 Again,

Speaker 3 I'm not saying hot seat, but some coaches, they start to get labeled as can't get past the Sweet 16 once they get good enough at coaching.

Speaker 1 I think it's so hard in this tournament.

Speaker 1 The luck of the draw and everything. It's fucking hard.
It's hard. He just needs to get a looser polo.
It's way too tight. It's way too tight.
Every game is way too tight.

Speaker 3 Max, that's not even the one from today. The one he's wearing today, the gray and black one.

Speaker 1 It's also crazy because, like, if you're getting the shit kicked out of you, like they did by Ole Miss today, and Ole Miss was phenomenal.

Speaker 1 Again, Chris Beard, tournament coach.

Speaker 1 That's a guy if you're playing the second game, you know, with less than 48 hours to plan. Give me Chris Beard every time because he just feels like he's going to out-game plan the other coach.

Speaker 1 But if you're getting the shit kicked out of you, like throw on a sweatshirt or something, dude.

Speaker 1 He's basically wearing a skin suit. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 It got smaller. It did.

Speaker 1 It got smaller.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's what he should do. Maybe he needs to get even smaller of a polo.

Speaker 3 Just wear the small, switch to the maybe just a singlet.

Speaker 1 Maybe he's like into BDSM. He's got to punish himself until he gets past the sweet 16.

Speaker 3 If he showed up with a leather, a tight leather one that would that just zipped like all the way up with a hoodie that he could pull over his entire face. Yeah.
I would bet on him for that.

Speaker 1 By the way, other win for Ole Miss. I feel like Chris Beard's staying, right? Because Because all the Iowa got Ben McCollum from Drake.

Speaker 1 We already knew that Darren DeVries went to Indiana and then Sean Miller went to Texas. Yeah.
So I don't know where Chris Beard would go, but I feel like they might have survived one of those

Speaker 1 coaching carousels.

Speaker 3 Nova?

Speaker 1 Because remember, Rick Petino came in here and he told us. He's like, Chris Beard should be the coach of Indiana.

Speaker 3 Nova? Max, do you want Chris Beard?

Speaker 1 Not a Nova guy. Not a Nova guy.

Speaker 1 Where are we at with the Nova search? I don't know. Maryland keeps winning, so it's not great there.
Maybe this guy. Who? TJ Otsberg? TJ.
Take Kim.

Speaker 1 I have dibs on him years from now. He is from Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 Villeneuve was a much better job. I'm just saying, I have dibs on him.

Speaker 1 Well, we'll see. Do you not respect Dibs?

Speaker 1 No, I got to respect Dibs. Yes, thank you.
I got to respect Dibs.

Speaker 3 I rest my case.

Speaker 1 PFT has dibs on Cooper Flag. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And you respect that.

Speaker 1 That one I I don't respect.

Speaker 3 No, you do respect it.

Speaker 1 Well, we'll see. Nasty.

Speaker 1 If you get the first pick, I will respect it. Thank you.

Speaker 1 But if the Sixers get the first pick, I will not.

Speaker 3 He should go back to college.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 This shot, by the way.

Speaker 3 You know what?

Speaker 3 The Sixers do a great job, big men with ankle injuries.

Speaker 1 He's not a big man.

Speaker 3 How tall is he?

Speaker 3 He's not a big man. He is a big man with ankle injuries.

Speaker 1 He is a taller guy who had a sprained ankle. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Paul George, he's a big man.

Speaker 1 He's a big man. You're not a bad job.
I said he is a man. Everyone in the NBA says.

Speaker 3 Paul George is a big man. Factor fiction.

Speaker 1 He's tall. Yeah.
He is tall. He's tall.

Speaker 1 All right. Last one in this region, New Mexico, Michigan State.

Speaker 1 Great seeing Rick Petino out there supporting Rich, Richard.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you saw the picture. I think most of the people in the picture.
Great fans behind him.

Speaker 3 Everybody was behind him.

Speaker 1 New Mexico.

Speaker 1 Great fans. Michigan State deserves a lot of credit because Michigan State got punched in the mouth at the beginning of this game, and they just keep pushing the pace, and they're just dogs.

Speaker 1 New Mexico probably could have gotten a better whistle. I'll say that.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 probably.

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 3 But they didn't hang in there. No.
It looked promising at the start. I mean, I think that's one coach, Richard Petino.

Speaker 3 It's a matter of time before he's in the Big East, right?

Speaker 1 Well, he's got to take over for St. John's.
That's a succession play.

Speaker 3 He could.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I was thinking there's people having a discussion at Providence right now.

Speaker 3 Seats heating up.

Speaker 1 Is he a big conference coach? Not so much at Minnesota.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he was a name that was floating around Villanova Circle.

Speaker 1 I think the Minnesota years have scared some people. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But that would be good. Get a little more Italian.

Speaker 3 It just does feel like his destiny to be in the Big East at some point, right?

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 1 Yeah, New Mexico, they just kind of ran out of gas, and Michigan State was just better.

Speaker 1 Tomizzo now, 16th suite, 16.

Speaker 1 And I saw this.

Speaker 1 Someone has a chart where they have like expected wins in the tournament.

Speaker 1 I would assume that's based on being, you know, favorites and seeding and all that stuff. Tomizzo has been to the tournament 21 times.
His expected wins are 27.6. He has 39 wins.

Speaker 1 It might be 40 now. And that's an 11.4 difference.
The next closest on this chart is Cal with

Speaker 1 he has six wins above expected.

Speaker 1 So Tom Ezzo, very good tournament coach.

Speaker 3 Very good. Did you see what he did last year when he got bounced?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 He wrote down, I'm getting back to a deeper run in this tournament or I'm going to die trying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He said that out loud. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He was literally going

Speaker 3 to

Speaker 3 kill himself trying to get back to this point and he did it. I believe him.

Speaker 1 Yep. I absolutely believe him.
Would love to see Michigan, Michigan State in the Elite Eight.

Speaker 3 It'd be scenes.

Speaker 1 That would be scenes, Hank.

Speaker 1 That's a great point. Hank won max zero.
That was a great point.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie. I'm not paying attention.

Speaker 1 He was like that one.

Speaker 1 Great point, Hank.

Speaker 1 I was actually prepping for

Speaker 1 the next region. No, I'm trying to count as meant meant how many football schools and basketball schools are left.
And there's honestly more basketball schools than I thought.

Speaker 1 Okay, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 Do you have the number? No, I'm in the process. All right, when you're ready, interrupt us and tell us.
And I want to go down the list and list off every school because I would like to debate that.

Speaker 1 Great point, Hank. Michigan, Michigan State would be scenes in the Elite Eight.

Speaker 1 Scenes. Scenes.
Scenes.

Speaker 3 Get to kiss the logo at center court.

Speaker 3 Kiss the bracket.

Speaker 1 I'd like Tom Island to get back to another Final Four. Because that does feel like, even if Michigan State doesn't win it all, it would be one of those we can

Speaker 1 really

Speaker 1 sit and enjoy Tom Izzo's career. You get the stories written about him, like, this is crazy.
He's 30 years in coaching. He's back to another Final Four.

Speaker 3 Tough to beat a team three times in the same season.

Speaker 1 I wonder if you would. I think if you're Tom Izzo,

Speaker 1 you'd have to just have it on loop of them disrespecting the S. Yeah.
Because they were about to kiss that ass.

Speaker 3 Kiss the S.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to kiss that ass.

Speaker 1 All right, let's take a break and then we'll go to the next region.

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Speaker 1 Okay, PFT, what's the next region?

Speaker 3 We're going down. Yeah, we're going down.

Speaker 3 We're going west. Okay, so we're starting the south, and then we're going down to the west.
West, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So Florida, Yukon.

Speaker 3 Great game. Incredible game.

Speaker 3 Danny Hurley actually coached an awesome game. Because if you saw Florida play, the way that they handled their business, you thought that was, they were just gonna run UConn out of the gym.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And the way that UConn kind of like took away some of the strengths that Florida had, this was as good a job that Danny Hurley's done coaching.

Speaker 3 And then after the game, him saying, I hope they don't fuck you like they fucked us. He kind of lost his shit.
Danny Hurley lost his shit. No way.

Speaker 3 And a lot of people are upset at Danny Hurley for being a bad loser.

Speaker 3 I think he would say, yes, I am a bad loser. I think he would agree with those people.

Speaker 1 But also, I don't care.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I don't care that he's a bad loser.

Speaker 1 People get upset about Danny Hurley, whatever he does. And

Speaker 1 I'll say it again. The guy wins.
Obviously, he didn't win this game, but he did actually finish.

Speaker 1 They are still, I think, 14-0 in their last 14 tournament games against the Spreads.

Speaker 3 Covered, big time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, covered.

Speaker 1 And he said afterwards, like, we fought like champions. And I actually agree with that.
UConn was not as good as Florida. UConn fought like a team defending their title and not going out in a sad way.

Speaker 1 And yeah, Danny Hurley is going to yell about the refs after. What did you expect?

Speaker 3 That's what coaches do. That's what fans do after a game.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 I would rather Danny Hurley yell that in a camera than a coach be mad about the refs, get up at the podium and just give cliches and lie about everything.

Speaker 3 You know what also?

Speaker 3 Maybe, maybe, I'm not a doctor, so I can't diagnose him. He might have Tourette's.
He could. He winces a lot during the games.
When he drops those F-bombs, it might just be a byproduct of Tourette's.

Speaker 1 There was a clip, too, where he might have told Luke Murray, his assistant, to shut up.

Speaker 3 Shut up, man.

Speaker 3 But that's just a direct communicator, because if you're in the moment, you only have X amount of seconds during a timeout. You got to be direct and to the point.

Speaker 3 You can't be having side conversations.

Speaker 1 And it really was like a...

Speaker 1 Florida's a better team. UConn had their struggles all year, but their coaching staff is so good.
Like, watching that first half, they confused the fuck out of Florida.

Speaker 1 UConn runs a very complex offense. It's beautiful to watch, and they confused Florida many times.
They just couldn't hit the shots.

Speaker 1 They were scheming open, wide-open shots. They ended up shooting, I think, 27% from three.

Speaker 1 That was the difference. They just didn't have the shot making that Walter Clayton has.
And Walter Clayton, he is awesome.

Speaker 3 He's, yes, he is.

Speaker 1 He is awesome to watch. Think St.
John's could have used him? Probably. Yeah, because he did play for Rick Petino at Iona, but

Speaker 1 Walter Clayton is so,

Speaker 1 he glides on the floor. I don't know what it is.
His movement is just so smooth.

Speaker 3 He's always in rhythm.

Speaker 1 He's always in rhythm. And that dagger three that he hit was just a big-time shot and a big-time moment.
And Florida, that was...

Speaker 1 This is why I love the tournament, too, because Florida plays in the SEC where it's just constant up and down, scoring, you know, every team scoring 80, 90. It's physical.

Speaker 1 but then they go and play against UConn and UConn throws things at them they haven't seen, and that's why the tournament is so difficult because you can just have one team that has your number on one day, and it's it.

Speaker 3 And to clear something up, I saw what Danny Hurley said after the game, and then I went back to look at maybe some of the calls he was complaining about.

Speaker 3 And I think the refs called a pretty good game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the refs have not been like awesome in this tournament. They were okay, and it's also nothing egregious.

Speaker 3 Florida was just the better team. The better team won.
Yeah. And that's good.
I'm glad that we get to see more of Florida. But also, this was like unexpectedly good performance from UConn.

Speaker 1 UConn fought like a champion. That's like all you could ask for because I did not think they were going to win this game going into this game.

Speaker 1 And what, with five minutes left, I was like, UConn might have them here. And that's a credit to UConn.

Speaker 1 Florida, though, is nasty.

Speaker 1 They're fun to watch, too.

Speaker 1 They just shoot threes and dunk. Yep.
And it's fun.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Probably the best game of the whole weekend.

Speaker 3 Probably the best game of the whole tournament. This was the madness.

Speaker 1 Maryland, Colorado State. Derek Queen's buzzer beater that now is being

Speaker 1 called a travel. And it might have been a travel, but I'm so happy they didn't call it a travel because I wanted to watch a buzzer beater.
That was such an awesome big boy move by him.

Speaker 1 And then afterwards, just saying, like, are you nervous for the moment? He's like, no, I'm from Baltimore.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so they asked him, what play did you call? And he said, I said, who wants the ball? And then Queen said, give me the motherfucking ball. Yeah.
So I gave him the ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kevin Willard said that after. Yeah.
He asked everyone in the huddle who wants the ball, and he's like, I want the fucking ball.

Speaker 3 So Jalen Lake was the guy from Colorado State that hit that shot that then got before

Speaker 3 by Queen. We should do a Mount Rushmore.
Can we put that, Hank? Can you write that down maybe next to the bonk list? The shot before the shot.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the shots that nobody remembers. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's a good one. Like bangers that just get completely lost to history because.
Marcus Page.

Speaker 1 Marcus Page. Oh, yeah.
Marcus Page, good one.

Speaker 1 Very good one. Javon Kurse.

Speaker 1 That's a big one.

Speaker 3 Javon Kurse?

Speaker 1 A catch before Malcolm Butler. Oh.
Oh, yeah. That's a good one.
Javon Kurse?

Speaker 3 Was it Javon Kurse?

Speaker 1 Javon Kurse from the defensive end.

Speaker 3 The defensive end from Tennessee.

Speaker 1 And Philadelphia. You know who I'm talking about.
Yeah. You're talking about the guy in the Seahawks who caught it off.
Jermaine Kurse?

Speaker 3 What was his name? It was a great catch by that guy on the sideline.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Jermaine Kurse.
Yeah. Sorry.

Speaker 3 Good job, man.

Speaker 3 Because we don't remember him.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
Yeah, that's a good one. We should do that.

Speaker 3 That banger of a joke in My American Cousin right before Booth got up there. Ooh.
It was a great joke. Got him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this was an awesome game, though. And Florida's nasty.
Fun to watch. Oh, no, we're talking about Maryland, Colorado State.
My brain's fucking done.

Speaker 3 Krabness. March Krabness.

Speaker 1 I feel bad for Colorado State.

Speaker 1 They were one of the hottest teams going in the tournament. They played awesome.
I mean, they beat Memphis. I know they were favorites.
It was a 12-5.

Speaker 1 And then they took Maryland to the brink here. And, yeah, probably was a travel.
But again,

Speaker 1 you can't call that. You can't call that.

Speaker 3 It happens every game and it's never called.

Speaker 1 We spent the entire weekend saying, why is this on TV? Can you get this off TV? No, no, no, no. There's a woman naked who's just like

Speaker 1 who doesn't have legs.

Speaker 1 Turn it off.

Speaker 1 Why are you looking at me? Hank, turn it off. The remotes aren't working.
Turn it off.

Speaker 1 Yes, it is working. Turn it off.
She's got no legs. Hank, put that on.
I don't want to see this every time

Speaker 3 on the bunk list for yourself that you put that on.

Speaker 1 And wanted it to keep it on. Now it's a dude naked walking around.
Get it off. Naked and afraid.
This is just TBS getting all these ratings from the games.

Speaker 1 Get it off. Why can't you turn it off?

Speaker 1 Turn it off.

Speaker 1 He's not turning. He's actually watching.

Speaker 3 And the longer it stays on, the longer I kind of like it.

Speaker 1 What was that? We would always come on when

Speaker 1 we were in the old studio in New York. American Ninja Warrior.
Yeah, that's right. American Ninja Warrior was like our closing time.

Speaker 1 Time to go home.

Speaker 3 And there's a show that's always on TV in the morning after the NBA playoffs. If you go to the gym and they still have the TVs on from last night,

Speaker 3 was it Charmed? Is that the one that's always on? It might be.

Speaker 3 Charmed. Charmed.

Speaker 1 Ah, yeah, but Colorado State, they played their balls off. And oh, what I was going to say is, you can't spend all weekend saying there's no madness.

Speaker 1 And then when there's the one madness that happens, like travel.

Speaker 3 Yeah, to travel people.

Speaker 3 A lot of people, when you slow it down, you look at it, he might have taken a gather step, which you can't do in college. Right.
But that same play happens all the time.

Speaker 3 It's never called in real time.

Speaker 1 Unless you went to Colorado State, that should not bother me. Right.
Colorado State fans every right to be upset and send that replay everywhere. Everyone else, it was an awesome shot.

Speaker 1 It was an awesome moment. It was a big boy move.
Derrick Queen is really fucking good at basketball. I don't know.
We've had this debate when we've been watching the games.

Speaker 1 The baggy long sleeves, not a huge fan of, but everything else about Derrick Queen is awesome.

Speaker 3 It just must get super hot. It's crazy.
It is kind of nuts.

Speaker 1 He must just love a sweat.

Speaker 3 Although, like, you see some of the...

Speaker 1 It's kind of swaggy. You think

Speaker 1 you hit a shot like like that, too.

Speaker 3 True. We're going to remember that, yeah.

Speaker 1 Now everyone's going to do it.

Speaker 3 Jokic could probably wear one of those.

Speaker 1 Gene Sterator said it was not a travel.

Speaker 1 Gene said no travel.

Speaker 3 Gene Sterator also.

Speaker 1 Wait, yeah, that's a taste. Way too much.
Way too much sheets.

Speaker 3 Let's go to Gene, and he'll tell us if the refs got this one right. Yeah, I think they got this one right, guys.
All right. Thanks, Gene.

Speaker 1 Another.

Speaker 1 The replays

Speaker 1 have got to be fixed.

Speaker 1 There's too many replays with it.

Speaker 3 Replays with travel now?

Speaker 1 We don't want that. You know what they need to do to get the replays, like maybe fewer replays?

Speaker 1 Every time they do a replay, it should just be a solo cam on the ref's face, and then we slowly just do like facts about that guy's life.

Speaker 1 And then, if you do too many replays, eventually it's just going to be your address.

Speaker 3 Too many more for you. We're going to post your address online.

Speaker 1 Like, it's just like, oh, this is what this guy, this is what he likes. This is what he, and it's just, hey, man, you did 15 replays in the last four minutes.

Speaker 1 Now we know your, you know, your passwords to all your computers and your address and your wife's name. We know everything.

Speaker 3 I think what you do is line by line, you just show his browser history. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Something to make it so that, like, hey, we got to do this replay really fast because if we don't, they're going to know that I was on Pornhub an hour before tip.

Speaker 3 Also, Gene Steratori, he's a football school. Yeah.
He's not a basketball school. Anyone want to?

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's go. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 It's way more basketball schools than I was anticipating. Okay, so go, but say the school and then say whether it's a football or basketball school.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Arkansas, football. Yep.
Yep. Texas Tech, I put under I don't know.
No, that's football school. It's football school.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But, okay.

Speaker 1 Arizona, basketball. Yep.
Duke, basketball.

Speaker 1 BYU, I put I don't know. That's kind of just Foreman.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bama, football.

Speaker 1 Maryland, basketball. Yes.
Florida, we said basketball.

Speaker 1 It's a true 50-50 school.

Speaker 3 I think Florida is is a football school.

Speaker 1 It is, but they've also won

Speaker 1 right, right?

Speaker 3 But Florida is a football school.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is a football school, but it's like they're so good at basketball.

Speaker 1 Purdue basketball.

Speaker 1 Houston basketball.

Speaker 1 Michigan football.

Speaker 1 Auburn football.

Speaker 1 Kentucky basketball.

Speaker 1 Tennessee, we said half.

Speaker 3 I think at the end of the day, it's a football school.

Speaker 1 I was more saying half. I respect their fans.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Olemis football. Michigan State basketball.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good luck. So what was the total? Well, now we switched a couple of them, and I don't know how to do this math.
No, no. I think

Speaker 1 are we putting, so we're putting Florida's a football school football. So I think that would be

Speaker 1 seven,

Speaker 1 eight, eight football.

Speaker 1 We got eight.

Speaker 3 That'd be eight.

Speaker 1 It's 16. We're going to get to 16.
Yeah, no, that actually makes sense. Eight football, seven basketball,

Speaker 1 one more movie. Okay.
All right. Graphic.
Shane graphic.

Speaker 1 Get it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Texas Tech, Drake. Texas Tech is just as good.
It was better than Drake.

Speaker 1 Ben McCollum, the big, I feel bad for Drake. They have lost their coach in back-to-back years.

Speaker 1 Darren DeVries went to West Virginia, now in Indiana. Ben McCollum goes to Iowa.

Speaker 1 And that sucks because they finally avoided the Drake meltdown. Then they went up against Texas Tech and JT Toppin, who was, I think he was 11 for 13 from the field, just an absolute beast.

Speaker 1 And yeah, that sucks for Drake.

Speaker 3 That's the kind of guy where it's like, if Drake had that mystery billionaire NIL money, you're not going to get a guy like J.T. Toppin that's going to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 Right. And Ben McCollum's a really good coach, and he's from Iowa, and it was kind of obvious that he was going to go to Iowa.

Speaker 1 Hank, we'll see. He can play fast.
He played fast at his Division III when he won national titles there. He played very slow at Drake, but I think that was more because that's what he had.

Speaker 1 Here's a Texas Tech, maybe a basketball school stat. Texas Tech,

Speaker 1 they have gone to four Sweet 16s over the last seven tournaments with three different coaches. Pretty impressive.

Speaker 3 That is pretty cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 To do it with three different coaches in that short of an amount of time, that's culture. You know what's basketball?

Speaker 3 I'm willing to hear arguments from Texas Tech students and alumni about basketball school after hearing that stat because I was not aware. I just knew Chris Beard Beard and now

Speaker 1 Beard Adams and then now obviously Grant McCassland, who's their coach.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so that is a strong, compelling argument for Texas Tech basketball school. I just feel like the football runs.

Speaker 1 No, I agree with that, but they deserve a lot of credit because going to

Speaker 1 four Sweet 16s in seven years with three different coaches is very hard to do.

Speaker 3 It's bullshit that they wouldn't let the Drake Bulldog in.

Speaker 1 Again. And Jeffrey was there.
Shout out Jeffrey. Did memes, you have something? Did you point to memes? Memes got nothing.

Speaker 3 Memes, give me a taste.

Speaker 1 How do you want to point to me?

Speaker 1 I coughed. I went like this.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Okay, last one. Best one in this region.
One we'll probably talk the most about. Arkansas St.
John's. Now, this game,

Speaker 1 if you're someone who

Speaker 1 is like, man, I wish we could watch, I wish it was 90s basketball again. This was the game for you.

Speaker 1 Outside of the fact that they still took 41 three-pointers between the two teams, they made four of them. It was bad.
9.7%.

Speaker 1 This was 90s basketball. It was physical.
It was hard fought.

Speaker 1 They took a lot of three-pointers, didn't make a lot of three-pointers. It was ugly, ugly, ugly.
But Arkansas

Speaker 1 out St. John's, St.
John's, and

Speaker 1 this was what every St. John's fan was fearful in the back of their mind, where they were like, we know we can't shoot if we get into a game where we're not shooting.
And then R.J.

Speaker 1 Lewis, who's the biggies player of the year, got benched because he was so bad. I don't even understand

Speaker 1 when people are like, How do you have him benched? Like, did you watch the game?

Speaker 3 Yeah, he was very bad. He was so bad.
He had a bad night.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but if he's your first lady, he was so bad, though.

Speaker 1 But if you rode, if that's the horse you rode in on, like, but he was making like he was not only like missing shots, he was like fucking up their offense bad.

Speaker 1 I still think you got a plan.

Speaker 3 In a close game, I agree. I think you have to be willing to say he's our best player.
One of these has to go in. If we lose because he's out there, that's fine.
We'll go down with a ship.

Speaker 1 What do you end up shooting? Three for 17. Yeah, he was bad.

Speaker 3 Don't get me wrong. He was bad.
And then Petino said he played 30 minutes. That's a long time.

Speaker 3 In Rick Petino's history, 30 minutes is a very, very long time.

Speaker 1 Very long time.

Speaker 3 That's like four.

Speaker 1 That's like 120. One of the guys off the bench played more minutes than him.
Yeah, and Kedari Richmond fouled out.

Speaker 1 It was a fun game because of the storylines. I don't know if you guys read any of the stories beforehand.

Speaker 1 I love the Cal-Petino rivalry because they refuse to admit that they hate each other's guts, like, hate each other's guts. And they refuse to actually say it.
Where

Speaker 1 Petino before the game, I think on Friday, he said, we don't know each other's wives or children. We're not really close friends.

Speaker 1 I don't know a whole lot about him, except he's a terrific basketball coach.

Speaker 1 I think you know a lot about him. You know everything about him.
He was literally, Petino was his camp counselor

Speaker 1 in a basketball camp when Cal was growing up. That's when they first met.
They've known each other for 50 plus years. They've crisscrossed a million different ways.

Speaker 3 These guys know as much about the other guy as it's possible for a grow man to know about another grown man. There's no question about it.
They've been, and they're very similar guys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But they're Italian. They're basketball coaches.
They hate each other. They won't admit they hate each other.

Speaker 1 They're even, I didn't even know this.

Speaker 1 There's like this lore that when patino was at kentucky and cal uh

Speaker 1 was in louisville so no patino was a oh yeah he was in kentucky before that uh cal was going to get the job at umass patino went to umass Petino says that he voted for Cal to get that job.

Speaker 1 And there's like lore that that did not happen. And Cal will say it like sarcastically be like, thanks so much for my career.
He got me my career. Appreciate you so much, dude.

Speaker 1 And like, there's this whole, there's, it's like a very mysterious, there were closed-door meetings where he actually was, he was vouching for the other guy going up for the job, not Cal.

Speaker 1 And then he took credit for vouching for Cal afterwards.

Speaker 3 So they have essentially the same career. They started out, they coached in the Northeast.
They tried to go to the NBA.

Speaker 3 Didn't work out.

Speaker 1 Played each other when they were at the Nets and Celtics.

Speaker 3 Yeah, went back, stayed in Kentucky, stayed in Tennessee for the other guy, then went to Kentucky, and now they're going up against each other one more time in the tournament.

Speaker 3 They have had very similar careers. They know each other extremely well.

Speaker 1 And this is Cal is now 3-2 in the tournament against Petino.

Speaker 1 And I think he's won, I wrote it down, he's won

Speaker 1 10 out of 11 out of the last 13, or 9 out of the last 11 against Petino. So he's kind of owning him right now.

Speaker 3 And this is his fourth team that he's taken to the Final Four. Or to the Sweet Sweet 16.

Speaker 1 Yeah. His first time in the Sweet 16 since 2019.
So he wasn't able to do it with Kentucky when they were three, six, and two seed. But I just love it.

Speaker 1 Oh, the other one that I love from Patino, he said when they asked him about the rivalry with Cal, he was like, I only had one rival. It was Jim Calhoun.

Speaker 3 I like that.

Speaker 1 Such a nigga. Just being like, I never considered Cal a rival.

Speaker 1 But it's so clear they just despise each other.

Speaker 3 They both had stuff vacated.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They started barking at each other during the game, too.
Yeah. It was great.
And Cal should come to Villanova. Oh.

Speaker 1 He should.

Speaker 1 You can't pay the money that Arkansas is paying him. I know.

Speaker 3 But he's got Philly roots, kind of.

Speaker 1 I mean, it would be Pennsylvania. He belongs in the Big East.
He belongs in the Big East. Oh, man.
That would be so. That would be awesome.
Because they do always just crisscross.

Speaker 1 Even when, even when Cal took Memphis,

Speaker 1 Louisville was in their conference for a couple years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 we need it.

Speaker 1 We need it. But it was a great game.
Arkansas,

Speaker 1 is this Cal's best coaching job?

Speaker 3 Did you see how quick the handshake happened at the end of the game?

Speaker 3 The game was still going on. Yeah.
Like, I think that they're maybe five seconds remaining on the clock, and Cal and Petino, like, right in each other's face, quick handshake.

Speaker 3 A handshake that fast, they don't like each other.

Speaker 1 No, they hate each other, but they won't say it. They won't say it, and it's so awesome.
Saying Jim Calhoun was my only rival is so awesome.

Speaker 3 They also might love each other.

Speaker 1 Do you think if they ever got in the room together and it was just two of them, they'd start kissing?

Speaker 3 I think what would happen would be they'd start fighting and then they'd start wrestling and then they'd stop and be like, What are we doing?

Speaker 1 We love each other.

Speaker 3 I've wanted to do this for years.

Speaker 1 I am very interested to see what happens with RJ Luis because I think he's got another year, and that was an all-time

Speaker 1 like Petino.

Speaker 1 we're winning my way or no way. Yeah.
You know, so will he stay? I assume he'll stay. And will he have a redemption moment?

Speaker 1 And then Patino's style still can work in today's college basketball where it's like, you could be hard on your guys, you can bench your guys, but you'll get to the mountaintop with your guys.

Speaker 3 It does feel like a moment that we look back on in a year and we're like, remember that? They show like a clip during the game. Yeah, he's going to have a big moment.

Speaker 3 Here's him on the bench for the second half of that game against Arkansas. And then he has a great game.
goes out there and crushes it, and it's like complete redemption.

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, Patino got that out of him.

Speaker 3 I personally would have kept him in the game, but Petino, he might be a better basketball coach than me.

Speaker 1 He coaches his way, he's been doing it for a very long time.

Speaker 1 But yeah, is this Cal's best coaching job? 0-5 to start the SEC schedule.

Speaker 1 He talked a lot about how it's like, he said, This is as rewarding a year as I've had based on how far we've come. It is impressive.
I mean, he

Speaker 1 remember the first day he was at Arkansas, he's like talked to the team have no team

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 it's not it was it was kind of like cal because cow like you said cal and patino are very similar they they cal his career has like been the underdog stuff until he went to kentucky because he he was at umass he was at memphis which wasn't like a blue blood Kentucky made him soft.

Speaker 1 Now he's going back. Arkansas's got basketball history, but they're not the, you know, they're not Kentucky.
Now he's kind of the underdog. 40 minutes.
He's feeling himself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's feeling himself.

Speaker 3 Do we think Kentucky was holding Coach Cowell back?

Speaker 1 It was making him soft.

Speaker 3 It was making him cater too much to get in the star players there because they cared so much about the recruiting.

Speaker 1 Now he's going to go out. I like that.

Speaker 3 That Coach Cow is now a great coach now that he's free from the pressures.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 It was too luxurious in Lexington for him. Now he's got to get back to his roots and coach basketball.
He's on a roll in Little Rock. Yeah.

Speaker 1 On the flip side, is this season a disappointment for the Johnnies? No.

Speaker 3 I do not think so. Disappointment? I mean, they won the Big East.

Speaker 1 It's the second year in a full rebuild. They won the Big East.
And again, I think the tournament is so chaotic and so hard to win that, like,

Speaker 1 you can't... If they were, if they were a Florida, they didn't have the talent of a Florida or a Duke or Auburn.

Speaker 1 They had a very good team, but it wasn't like, we all thought this could happen where they just don't make their shots.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It turns out that having good shot-making ability on your team is important to winning basketball games.
It's like they built the entire team out of Ben Simmons.

Speaker 3 If there was no basket, this would be a great team.

Speaker 1 If this was year five at Petino and St. John's, they hadn't been to a Sweet 16, I think you could definitely say that.

Speaker 1 What do you think? I would like to take a point away from Hank.

Speaker 3 That was a bad take.

Speaker 3 You don't get to determine what's going to take.

Speaker 1 He was actually asking a question. Max.

Speaker 1 Max, we would.

Speaker 1 I'll hear your appeal. You can appeal it.

Speaker 1 I would appeal.

Speaker 1 Wait, appeal what? Question point.

Speaker 1 difference between a point and a question hank asked a question that was a good thought starter actually now it's 2-1 hank that was a good thought starter no it wasn't that was that was so obviously wrong you can ask a question that's a question that will be asked on a premiere sports show today or tomorrow yes yeah you just did it yeah no on like a television no no point max wrong point max you just did a television program you just did it on a premiere sports show yeah on a television program as well premiere sports show i thought that was a good thought starter thank you hank you're welcome I thought it was a bad thought starter.

Speaker 1 Deduction for Max. It's 2-0.
I think if you're shooting, you win the biggest and you don't make the Sweet 16. That's disappointing.
We should be keeping score between the two of them.

Speaker 1 Contributions to the show every episode.

Speaker 3 It's 2-0 right now.

Speaker 1 No more.

Speaker 3 Most dangerously part of my take. This is

Speaker 1 fun to do. Don't let Max.

Speaker 1 I said it's not a competition, then you just try to take a point away from me. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Max, you did get a point for the football, basketball school thing, but then we had to take it away for trying to interrupt Hank's question that was a good thought starter.

Speaker 1 I think that was stupid. Okay, 2-0.

Speaker 3 Max, why do you think it's a stupid question?

Speaker 1 Max, you only care about the Big East. Max, we know the answer.
Don't the expectations.

Speaker 1 The Big East isn't even in the Sweet 16.

Speaker 1 So, how good was the conference?

Speaker 3 Don't they have to have higher expectations?

Speaker 1 St. John's was a dumpster fire before Patino went there.
The coaches that they brought, they were just a revolving door of bad, bad coaches that underperformed and

Speaker 1 were very very disappointing year after year. Patino in his second year won the Big East.
This is basically a mid-nature. They don't have one game.

Speaker 1 St. John, like what Patino's

Speaker 3 an accomplishment and not making the Sweet 16?

Speaker 1 It's the same thing.

Speaker 1 He's giving terrible points.

Speaker 1 Good debate. Well, no, because Hank's point is that the Big East doesn't have any teams left.

Speaker 1 But it's still winning your conference.

Speaker 1 It's still getting a two-seed.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but does that subtract from how impressive winning the Big East was?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 UConn lost to Florida by two points today, and everyone is saying that Florida is the best team in the country.

Speaker 1 It's still a competitive conference.

Speaker 3 You actually made his point because it's a down year for UConn. They don't have a good team this year.
So that's a minus point for the Big East.

Speaker 1 Did you just lose another point? Yeah. UConn.
What do you mean? UConn was in that game the entire game against the best team in the country.

Speaker 3 They had a down year for their team.

Speaker 1 But it's still a good team.

Speaker 1 Yes, it's a down year for the Big East, but you still win the Big East.

Speaker 3 I started this conversation off by fully agreeing with you, Max. And the more we talk about it, the more I'm seeing Hank's point.

Speaker 1 You are just forcing yourself to see Hank's point. I know it wasn't even as a question.

Speaker 3 You're not making any points to the contrary.

Speaker 1 I just gave you the whole point about St. John's.
St. John's went through horrible coach after horrible coach, and then they win the Big East under Rick Petino's second year is a plus to the program.

Speaker 1 Is this going to end up being a down year? Is this going to end up being like a Menendez thing where we pit them against each other and then they kill both of us?

Speaker 1 Yes, I like this.

Speaker 3 That was a stupid question. Max is right.

Speaker 3 Obviously, St. John's is happy with the way the season went.
Yes, yes, Hank. You get the chance to rebut.

Speaker 1 Better or worse question than the Iowa State Code question.

Speaker 1 About as bad.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's like, I wasn't asking the question, Hank. I was asking if it's time to prepare to even have the conversation.

Speaker 1 Got it. Yes.

Speaker 1 All right.

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Speaker 1 Okay, East.

Speaker 1 Duke is awesome.

Speaker 1 They're so good.

Speaker 1 And I don't hate John Shire.

Speaker 1 White Mike. White Mike.
It was very funny that he tried to get his team to call him White Mike.

Speaker 1 No, I think that was from. No, I know, but then he told his team.

Speaker 1 He was was like, yeah, see,

Speaker 1 I could ball. Call me white Mike.
I just, I hate, I hate the institution of Duke. I don't hate John Shire yet.

Speaker 1 Once he starts winning national titles, which I'm sure he probably will do this year, I will start hating him like I hated Coach K. But

Speaker 1 Duke also has

Speaker 1 they fucking.

Speaker 1 I hate that I'm going to say something nice about Duke.

Speaker 1 The fact that Duke has their fucking human victory cigar being a 5'8 guy named Spencer Hubbard is so funny. Wearing 55.
That guy out on the court today, he's 27-0 when he gets into a game.

Speaker 1 He was so funny. What a preposterous number.
What a preposterous height.

Speaker 1 Like, just ridiculous.

Speaker 3 What's his story? Where is he from?

Speaker 1 He's from L.A., I believe.

Speaker 1 He probably was the best college basketball player

Speaker 1 in his high school.

Speaker 1 And I think he was a walk-on.

Speaker 1 And he's just,

Speaker 1 I love when teams have human victory cigars, and the fact that he's 5'8 makes it so much better because it's so clear when he's out there just how ridiculous it looks.

Speaker 3 That's what I love about these guys. What do you average? That he might be the best player to ever play sports at his high school.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, what do you average? 13 and 4. Okay, so no.
No, so he's not.

Speaker 1 Never mind.

Speaker 3 So how is he on doing? And he went to wait.

Speaker 1 Harvard Westlake, I'm pretty sure that's like, is that where Bronnie went? Westlake is like one of the nicest. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he probably played on a team with all Division I

Speaker 3 wait, but now we're connecting some dots. Did LeBron get this guy to Duke?

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 3 Did JJ?

Speaker 1 I'm a Spencer Hubbard fan. I fucking hate that I am, but I am.
He's so funny when he gets out there.

Speaker 3 I thought Proctor was really good. Jeremy Lynn went there, obviously.

Speaker 1 Jeremy Lynn. Yeah, no, I mean, Duke is just so good.
They have so many guys.

Speaker 3 He went seven for eight from three.

Speaker 1 Con Canopo was like he was bad for the first part of the game, and then he had this drive on the baseline where he dunked one home.

Speaker 1 He's like, oh, yeah, that guy's out there, and he's really fucking good, too.

Speaker 1 Spencer is the great-grandson of

Speaker 1 Washington Duke.

Speaker 3 The guy that founded Duke?

Speaker 1 The father of James B. Duke, the person who arranged the movement of Trinity College from Randolph County to Durham in 1892 and provided financial support thereafter.
I love that guy.

Speaker 1 That's hilarious. Jeremy Lynn did not go there.
Okay. Another point taken away from Max.
Max, do you look up

Speaker 1 the other storyline that we have going on in this tournament is the Mont Verde team from last year. Yeah, crazy.

Speaker 1 Because Derrick Queen was on it, Cooper Flag, and then one of his teammates who was on Baylor was playing in this game.

Speaker 1 They must have won every game by a billion, right?

Speaker 3 I want to know what their stats were.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what was their record? I know they didn't lose a game, but how is this even...

Speaker 3 Who is Batman and who was Robin on that team?

Speaker 1 Like, could you imagine? I don't even know what they... Where is Mont Verde?

Speaker 3 Mont Verde. New York? Green Mountain.
I'm going to say New York.

Speaker 1 Feels like a New York. Where is it? It's New York or it's like a DMV.
I thought it was like Maryland. Yeah, Maryland.
Is it Maryland?

Speaker 1 Is it a real school? Is it a real school or is it a

Speaker 1 like AI Academy or whatever the fuck it's called?

Speaker 3 I think it's real, but it's basketball focused.

Speaker 1 Florida. Florida.
So I think it's maybe not a real school. Is it a real school? Or is it everyone just moves to Florida to be awesome at basketball?

Speaker 1 It's definitely not a public school. No.

Speaker 3 It's a prep school.

Speaker 1 So imagine being on,

Speaker 1 like, playing prep basketball and being like a 5-8 kid, and then you just show up and it's Derek Queen and Cooper Flag. Yeah.
Oh, my.

Speaker 3 So they're 33-0.

Speaker 1 188. 120.

Speaker 1 Like, poor Southlake. That's brutal.

Speaker 3 Look up the stats for that game.

Speaker 1 Also, find us the championship game because I'm curious.

Speaker 1 I'm curious to see how bad they won. So the championship game, they won 79-63.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 they didn't play it. Did they play any close games? Did they have a single game that was close?

Speaker 1 What a wagon of a team. It's crazy.
Yeah, so

Speaker 1 Robert Wright,

Speaker 1 Cooper Flag, Derek Queen, Liam McNeely, who plays at UConn.

Speaker 1 They have everyone. Everyone was good.
Okay, so Oak Ridge. Chris Newell,

Speaker 1 they all are good.

Speaker 3 Is that Oak Ridge? They only beat 78 to 72.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Tough game.
Prolific prep. It looks like twice they had close games with them.
78-72 and then 76-71. Prolific prep.

Speaker 3 That does sound like a fake school. That sounds like Bishop whatever.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine being

Speaker 1 like, honestly,

Speaker 1 playing against them? That would suck so bad.

Speaker 3 Yeah, memes has his hand raised. Yes, memes.

Speaker 1 The 2020 Mount Vert roster is like one of the greatest rosters of all time.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 1 Max Pull Up, but it's like Cade Cunningham, Scotty Barnes.

Speaker 1 Scotty Barnes League.

Speaker 1 I'm still taking Moses Moody, Chino Hills, Nemhard.

Speaker 3 Oh, they had like five NBA players on it.

Speaker 1 So it's not a real school. No.
They just get everyone to come. Yeah, Cade Cunningham, Moses Moody, Ryan Nemhard, Scotty Barnes, Future Face of this League.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Hank, who do you got? 2016 Chino Hills. Who's on that team? The Balls.
Oh, Point Hank over memes. Hank.

Speaker 1 That would suck so much to have to go play as well.

Speaker 3 Just put on your head memes.

Speaker 1 What do you even do?

Speaker 1 What do you do if you're a junior

Speaker 1 or a sophomore in prep school, Florida, and you're, let's say, 5, 10, you haven't hit your growth spurt yet, and you have to D-up Cooper Flag?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would fake an injury.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Titus did say that would be a diarrhea game for me. Yeah,

Speaker 3 it wouldn't be fake diarrhea.

Speaker 3 No, but mine wouldn't be fake. Like, I would see that on the calendar, and then two days before, I would drink expired milk.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but this graphic was, this is the Washington Redskins graphic of the tournament.

Speaker 3 I saw it every single game. It's everywhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is everywhere. But Duke is awesome.
I don't really know what. Do you guys have any thoughts on

Speaker 1 Baylor Boys?

Speaker 1 Wright was electric.

Speaker 3 He was fun to watch. Edgecombe, great physical guy.

Speaker 1 Edgecombe's going to be in the NBA. Yeah.
Jeremy Roach should have stayed. I don't know why he left.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 he got pushed out.

Speaker 3 He left because he thought he was getting pushed out, and then he wanted to start, and then he went to Baylor, and then

Speaker 3 Wright showed up, and then he kind of got edged out there.

Speaker 3 Tough break. I like Roach.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are you looking up now? Pacific Prep? I'm looking at who's good on

Speaker 1 the team that played them close last year.

Speaker 1 They have this guy, the 7 million guy for BYU. Oh,

Speaker 3 that game probably made him $7 million.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Played them tight.

Speaker 1 I got to watch some tape on this team. Probably so sick.
I wish we had Bosco here. He probably could have told us every

Speaker 1 Watched them all. All right.
Oregon, Arizona. That was a fun game.
Caleb Love was nuclear. Five for seven from three, 29 points.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I don't know where you stand on this, but like, obviously conference realignment sucks, but it was very cool to see an old school rivalry in that kind of setting early in the tournament, which normally wouldn't have been able to happen.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 when those two teams play each other, even though they're in different conferences right now, in my mind,

Speaker 3 just throw all that out.

Speaker 1 It's a Pac-12 game. We had a moment on Sunday night where we had Pac-12 After Dark back.
Yeah. Bill Walton was watching that game from heaven, smiling.

Speaker 3 And I think Arizona moves on because they won that Pac-12 game. I think now it's ACC Pac-12.
Yeah. Yeah.
And it's Duke in Arizona.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Duke in Arizona, which is, they played in the national title.

Speaker 3 Love was on that team.

Speaker 1 Love was on Duke. Yeah.
Or no, on UNC. UNC, yeah.
Yeah, UNC. No, I'm saying Duke and Arizona played in the national title way back in the day when it was 1999.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Miles Simon. But yeah, this was an awesome game to watch.

Speaker 3 It was fun. Oregon just,

Speaker 3 they got outworked on the glass a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 They fought hard. A couple bounces didn't go their way.
Those two missed free throws and then the ball going out of bounds took the possession away. That felt like that was the end.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Dana Altman, very good coach.
He's in that

Speaker 1 chart

Speaker 1 I brought up earlier for Tom Izzo. The chart is Tom Izzo, God of March.
He's his own tier. And then there's the Trust Them Blindly tier.

Speaker 1 And it's Cal, Hurley, Dana Altman, Rick Petino, and Chris Beard. They all have significant wins over expected average.

Speaker 3 What'd you think about the Ducks unis?

Speaker 3 The fighting ducks. I liked them.
I liked them. You liked the fighting ducks? They popped.
They popped. It was something a little bit different.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm happy we had a competitive game to finish off the weekend because it did feel like we were missing something.
And I wish we had had...

Speaker 1 Here's a take.

Speaker 1 I think that you should get to foul up three once.

Speaker 3 So I was thinking about this because

Speaker 3 I don't like it as a viewer. I know it sucks.
The strategy is actually great. It's a very good strategy, and you should do it as a coach.

Speaker 3 But as a viewer, when you get the ball and you're down three, like everyone has that anticipation of they can make a shot and tie the game. We take it away, it kind of sucks.

Speaker 3 I just don't know how they'd be able to change that rule without also changing the rule of if you're losing, fouling intentionally.

Speaker 3 right you know like do you how many of those do you get because it's the same it's the same strategy it's just it's no fun when the rabbits got the gun what what about if you you can foul up three once the second time they get three three shots but you probably wouldn't want to do it i think they should just be more more lenient with is it a shooting motion yeah

Speaker 1 I just, it just, it does rob it, it's smart strategy, but it robs us of, of big-time moments where you just like to see it be played out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I, I don't know, like, one time would be fun where you, then then it's strategy of when do we use it? You know, you get it one time.

Speaker 3 An intentional foul in three.

Speaker 1 You're up three. Exactly up three.
In the last minute. You get one chance.

Speaker 3 In the last minute of the game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm done with that. I also,

Speaker 1 because just dumb ideas as your brain slowly melts into basketball, it'd be kind of fun to do one game where

Speaker 1 you shoot to you miss on free throw line.

Speaker 3 You just went foul.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right? But imagine.

Speaker 1 The team went on like a 2-0 run because the guy just got hot on the free throw block.

Speaker 3 I loved what Arizona did at the end when they would put, what's his name, Del Orso in?

Speaker 1 Yeah. The skinny kid.

Speaker 3 It's like, here's our foul shooter. And then every single time they just schemed him open.
That was his only purpose, really. Yeah.

Speaker 3 At the end, they schemed him open off the inbounds play, and Oregon had no choice but to foul the one guy they didn't want to foul. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 BYU, Wisconsin. This game sucked for me.
Well, let me say this. BYU was awesome.
They hit every three. They're really good.
Saunders, I hate that guy, but he's so fucking good at basketball.

Speaker 1 I also,

Speaker 1 I was going into this game, I was like,

Speaker 1 I thought it was a 50-50 game just because I know how good BYU is, and it was like, whichever team makes their threes.

Speaker 1 And then when BYU came out in the Duke uniforms, that didn't help. And also it was like a home crowd for BYU.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 Altitude, it sucked. It sucked.

Speaker 1 I'll say this. Wisconsin fought their balls off.
In past years, they have just gotten punched in the mouth and died.

Speaker 3 And they actually, I mean, something got hit in the balls and came back to life. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I wish Tanjay had shot a three there at the end. I wish they had drawn something up.
They kind of just like, hey, you're, I mean, he was incredible, but I wish that we had had one prayer of a three.

Speaker 1 And it sucked. And then I did

Speaker 1 the fake Bitcoin tweet saying my phone got hacked, and then then Twitter locked me out for 16 hours. So that was kind of funny.
It was a boy who cried wolf.

Speaker 3 It was because you've done the fake hack tweet probably 20 times, and every time Big Cat does this fucking tweet, he doesn't think about the people around him that

Speaker 3 get the collateral damage. We have people hitting all of us up being like, hey, just so you guys know, Big Cat's account got hacked.
But it's a very funny tweet, and it's a good strategy.

Speaker 3 This time it caught up to you, so you can get back in until when.

Speaker 1 I got back in halftime of Florida, UConn today. So

Speaker 1 I did it. We were live streaming.
I was like, oh man, I got hacked again. And then we finished the stream and I'm going home.
And I get home and I pull up Twitter and it just says,

Speaker 1 like, it's just the blank icons. Like, do you want to create a Twitter account? Yeah.
I was like, what the fuck? X. And then X, the everything app.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I texted our social guys like, I think I'm out. I think I got

Speaker 1 booted. I think X deleted my bitcoin tweet that's good so and then i had to send them i had to fill out a report and my report was what was my exact phrasing um

Speaker 1 it was just very funny that it actually ended up being okay because i just went to sleep instead of just mindlessly scrolling twitter and getting more and more upset about wisconsin losing uh i had to write so it was a help center description of the problem i said i did a fake tweet about being hacked as a bit because the badgers lost in the tournament and i was sad yeah the the best is when you when you you do those tweets, sometimes I get texts from people, mutual friends of ours.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Like people that know Big Cat and know me, but I get a text saying, hey, just so you know, can you tell Big Cat his account got hacked?

Speaker 3 And I'm like, you could just text, like, his phone didn't get hacked.

Speaker 1 Well, it might maybe. You can text that to me.

Speaker 1 Our social guys always text me. Like, they finally figured it out, but for the longest time, they'd be like, hey, I think you just got hacked.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I'll get a bunch of messages too being like, dude, you got hacked. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think I'm not retiring it, but now I guess I have to alert X beforehand, being like, hey, I got an important game, and if things go wrong,

Speaker 1 they always do, I will be doing this tweet so that I don't have to

Speaker 1 be online for a little bit. I wonder if somebody actually goes back to PS5s and not the Bitcoin.
Yeah. Do you think Bitcoin was what did me?

Speaker 3 Maybe. And also, I think there's

Speaker 3 probably a good chance that someone started a shit coin

Speaker 3 based off that tweet. Like, someone who was really in on the bit.
I don't know what you would call it. Well, I made up if it was was a bit and they wanted to start a coin after it.

Speaker 1 I made up the whole number. Yeah.
I just typed in random things. So, but yeah, the game sucked.
Here's the thing. I

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 it. The worst part about the tournament, and this is now more so because of the Trans Reporter and the NIL.
I loved watching this Badger team. They were so much fun.
I watched every game.

Speaker 1 I loved watching them play. I love Tanjay.
Stephen Crowell's been at Wisconsin forever. Max Klez, like all these guys.
And that's the part.

Speaker 1 It's weirder than pro sports, where pro sports, you're like, damn, my team lost. This fucking sucks.
But next year, we'll be back and we got the same team. In college sports,

Speaker 1 it's like a more sentimental of, I really just wanted to see Tanjay play another game for the Badgers, and I don't get to do that.

Speaker 1 So it's a different type of sadness that's not, I don't know, I'm not expressing it well. I was bummed, but BYU played better, so I can't really say anything.

Speaker 3 No, get it. It's like a small era of your life is over.
Right.

Speaker 1 It's like, I'll never get to see John Tanjay play for the Badgers again.

Speaker 3 We live our lives in specific eras. If you're a fan of a pro team, those eras, the window is large.
Right. If you're a college team, it's like you have to do something with these guys.

Speaker 1 And it just gets ripped from you so suddenly

Speaker 1 that it just sucks.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to, I wanted to watch them play another game. I wanted to see, I think

Speaker 1 they had a very good year. I think they were a dangerous team.
They got a shitty draw in having to play six games and 10 days in altitude, but that's just how it works sometimes.

Speaker 3 What do you think about the ejection for the nutshot? Because the nutshot, I think that's against the Mormon code of conduct. I think it's actually very, very against it.

Speaker 1 I said when watching the game,

Speaker 1 I think the refs should ref BYU based on Mormon laws. If they swear, they should be ejected.

Speaker 3 If you touch another man's penis as a Mormon, you are kicked out of the church. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I, I, it's, he did like drive his elbow into his nuts. I don't know.
I,

Speaker 1 they, they call that a flagrant all the time in, in college basketball. Like, if you hit someone in the head or you hit someone under, below the waist, you get kicked out.
It sucks.

Speaker 3 It was bald to lie, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But yeah, the game sucked.
And

Speaker 1 you really, you really can't do the two-for-one thing that they fucked up at the end of the first half. That was so bonehead.
And I also like when it really comes down to it this entire season,

Speaker 1 you can't lose to Penn State in the last game of the season at home.

Speaker 1 Because if you don't lose to Penn State, you probably get the three in Milwaukee and you don't have to play a really good BYU team that probably should have been higher than a six seed.

Speaker 1 So screwed ourselves, but yeah, I'm bummed. It sucks.

Speaker 3 I'm not a math guy, but I get frustrated when I watch games when coaches screw up the two for one. Yeah.
At the end of the game. It happens a lot.

Speaker 1 Well, what happened in this game, especially in the first half, was BYU plays at a breakneck pace, and we tried to match that pace, and you just can't play as fast as there's very few teams that can play as fast as BYU plays.

Speaker 1 So if you try to do that with them, you're going to just have these boneheaded moments where you have 12 seconds left in the first half. You take a two and then they come down and hit a three.

Speaker 3 Also,

Speaker 3 memes, I think I've become a BYU lever. No, really good.
Because they're so fun to watch. They don't miss.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm rooting for them against Bama for obvious reasons.

Speaker 3 It's going to be a great game because both those teams love to run. So I'm pumped to watch that one.
But yeah, memes was right. Point memes.
BYU lever.

Speaker 1 Memes, did you get all the tweets off that you wanted to get off? Yeah, I got them all off. I was rooting for you, though.
Oh, thanks. I appreciate that.
I don't know. I believe it.

Speaker 3 No, you weren't. 0%.

Speaker 1 I root for all your teams to make to the championship and lose. Okay, that's fair.
I believe you. You bet on BYU? Yeah, I took a money launcher.
So you weren't. You weren't rooting for me.

Speaker 1 So that's a lie. I didn't expect you to root for me.
No, I was rooting for you. No, you weren't.
No, you weren't. You don't get credit.

Speaker 1 You said you were a BYU lever. You get credit for being right about that.
You bet on BYU. You get credit for being right about that.
You don't also get credit for saying I was rooting for you, too.

Speaker 1 No, no, but I like you.

Speaker 1 I like you, too. Now, see, you can't have all of them.
You were right about the game. You don't also be like, yeah, I was rooting for you.

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 3 Sucked.

Speaker 3 It was a fun comeback, though.

Speaker 1 It was an awesome comeback. I just fucking wish they had completed it.
Yeah, BYU, whose line is it anyway? Let me look at that real quick.

Speaker 3 I think we said it was, what, three and a half? No, no, no, the total. Oh, total.

Speaker 1 185?

Speaker 1 No, that would be way too high.

Speaker 3 I thought meme just held up a five. That was a seven.

Speaker 3 Oh, that was a seven. Got it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 174. I mean, they're good.

Speaker 3 Meme is simulating a gun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd probably take that over.

Speaker 1 74 and a half. But then, BYU, sometimes they don't make their threes.
They were making all their threes.

Speaker 1 They're good, though. Saunders, I hate that guy.
I really do because he's so good and his face pisses me off. But he's really good.
He's smooth.

Speaker 1 All right, last one was the worst game of the weekend, I would say. Bama St.
Mary's.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was gross. It was gross.
Just neither team could make a shot. Ugly turnovers.

Speaker 1 It was bad. St.
Mary's just.

Speaker 1 They couldn't make a layup. They're not good.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're good in their conference, and they beat Gonzaga in conference play, and then they get into the tournament, and you have to play so perfect when you play that slow, and they're just

Speaker 1 they couldn't, did they hit a single three?

Speaker 3 I think they hit one at the end.

Speaker 1 I think they hit two, they hit two.

Speaker 3 They hit two. I know they broke the seal at the end, but they've been on, they've had these games before where they just don't make three-pointers.

Speaker 3 And if you're not going to make threes, you at least have to make all your layups when you get to the hoop, and they were not making layups.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I wasn't impressed with Bamba this weekend. No, Robert Morris gave him a fight, and St.
Mary's, if they could just hit a shot, would have been in that game.

Speaker 1 Like that, we were watching that game saying the entire time, Bama should be up by like 25 because St. Mary's was playing so bad, and they didn't pull away.

Speaker 1 I mean, they were up 10 for the majority of the game, but they should have just stomped them.

Speaker 1 That was one of my takes. That was the worst college basketball game, I think, I've ever seen.
It was painful. It was so bad, like boring and bad to watch.
It was just St.

Speaker 1 Mary's missed shot, and then a 50-50 chance Bama would hit a shot or turn the ball over.

Speaker 1 And that was it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Alabama is one and three this year when they score fewer than 80 points. And St.
Mary's had enough looks where they should have scored some points against him.

Speaker 3 It was not a good defensive performance from Alabama.

Speaker 3 And they just, it was so frustrating. They were getting wide-open looks.
They were getting wide-open layups. Just couldn't make a single one of them.

Speaker 1 Max, are you worried at all about Bama going to the final four?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's only two games away, but I think it's not an easy path. Yeah, because Max would have to road trip down to San Antonio.
And I would have to go to the Pumpkins. St.

Speaker 3 Mary's is the worst team ever.

Speaker 1 Worst team I've ever watched. And

Speaker 1 they went 0 for 16 from 3 two games ago. Like, that's foolish, but how is this team a fucking seven seed? They suck.

Speaker 1 Duke is what? So, like, infinitely better. The only chance Bama has is Caleb Love, you know, Caleb Love Black Magic.
Oh, Arizona beats him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you don't even have, you're not even giving Bama a chance to goddamn it. Someone else has to do it before that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would be a problem if Duke got bounced

Speaker 1 just for the Bama problem. But yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't understand how Mark Sears was so good last year, and I just feel like he's lost his touch, like around the rim, shooting Teres.

Speaker 1 Another take. They tried too many alley oops.
Every single time down the quarter, they just try an alley alley oop. Yeah.
Like, there's got, I get it.

Speaker 1 It's a, it's, if you run it well, it's a, it's an efficient play. Yeah.
But just play some basketball. Stop trying to do an alley oop every single possession.

Speaker 3 They do score a lot of points.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they do. Yeah.
They turn the ball. It's a good counterpoint.
Take another point away from me. All right.
Too many. I'm only getting points taken away.

Speaker 3 It was a counterpoint. I mean, yes, Max, running too many alley oops, I guess that's a fair take.
But is the alternative missing layups? True. Alley oop is is a pretty high percentage shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they don't always convert on the alley oops. That's true.
Sometimes they turn the ball over trying to alley oop it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 What do you think the record for most alley oops in a game is? Florida Gulf. Dunk City, yeah.
Dunk City. We should be able to bet on that.
That should be a line. It has to be.

Speaker 1 Dunk City.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, one last break, and then we'll do the Midwest, and then we'll do big picture stuff and who's back.
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Speaker 1 Okay, Midwest, Houston Gonzaga.

Speaker 1 Gonzaga's nine straight sweet 16s, stops at nine.

Speaker 1 LJ Cryer was awesome. Houston, I mean, Gonzaga kind of.

Speaker 3 Houston tried to give it away at the end.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Gonzaga kept it. They fought all the way to the end, but Houston was just better.
And Kelvin Sampson was like, he was sucking Mark Few off after. He was talking about how incredible he was.

Speaker 1 There's no one else that he has that respect for.

Speaker 3 He is in love with Gonzaga because he was correcting reporters' pronunciation of

Speaker 3 Gonzaga earlier in the week. He had, yeah, he was like very, he was a Gonzaga defender.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I got to be honest with this game, I was focused on the Tennessee game.

Speaker 3 I kept one eye on the score at the end of it, and I saw Gonzaga just fighting their way back into it in a game that Houston probably should have won by 10 to 15 points.

Speaker 3 But I'm not worried about Houston.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say this about Houston. I want Houston fans to chime in.
I feel like Houston,

Speaker 1 they're the regular Houston. They can shoot better than Houston a few years ago.
And they could tell me if I'm way off. But Houston,

Speaker 1 elbow three

Speaker 1 is always money. That's where they hit all their threes.
I don't know what it is, but I just feel like every time I watch a Houston game,

Speaker 1 it's right there. They don't hit like a ton of corner threes.
They don't hit a bunch at the top of the arc.

Speaker 1 That spot, they just, if one of their guys catches the ball in rhythm there, it's always going in. And you're like, holy shit, Houston can shoot.

Speaker 3 Oh, this is an interesting stat. Alabama is one of four programs to make it to the Sweet 16 in four of the last five seasons.
Houston,

Speaker 3 Gonzaga, was on that list, no longer. Can you name the other one?

Speaker 1 Four out of the last five. Four out of the last five.
Are they

Speaker 1 uh hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 Oregon was on that list or no?

Speaker 3 Oregon, no. Well, I'm talking about right as of right now.

Speaker 1 As of right now, they've got four out of the last five because Oregon definitely

Speaker 1 Baylor. Nope.

Speaker 3 Baylor lost.

Speaker 1 Is it a Power Five school?

Speaker 3 It is. We just talked about them.

Speaker 3 It's not Texas Tech.

Speaker 1 It's not Texas Tech.

Speaker 1 It's not BYU. Auburn.
Florida. It's not Auburn.

Speaker 1 Arizona.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 1 PYU.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 1 Bama.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 Michigan State. Well, Bama is one.
We already said that, though. Old Mary.
St. Mary's.
No.

Speaker 3 St. Mary's.
St. Mary's never goes.
No.

Speaker 1 Arkansas. Yes.
Oh, yeah. Mus.
Must.

Speaker 3 Mus. That's a must-stat.

Speaker 1 That is a must-stat.

Speaker 1 I was right there. That was a good podcast.
We were just reading the bracket. We're just reading the bracket.

Speaker 1 We're going to get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Houston's very good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm top heavy. This is why I'm very excited for these Sweet 16, Elite 8, and Final Four because

Speaker 1 all these one seeds are so fucking good.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and I'm not worried about Houston, the fact that they let Gonzaga back into it. It's tough to close out in March.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Gonzaga was a very good team, too. Yeah.
What they did to Georgia was

Speaker 1 Georgia was unspeakable. Yeah,

Speaker 1 literally unspeakable. Yeah, we should not speak of Georgia.

Speaker 1 Okay, Purdue versus McNeese. This was the classic early Saturday game, upstart, plucky underdog.
And you're like, oh, yeah, that's why Purdue's Purdue and McNeese is McNeese.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the manager from McNeese,

Speaker 3 people were having a conversation about him. People got sick.

Speaker 1 Why did they show him? People got sick of him. And I don't blame him.

Speaker 3 I blame just society and the internet.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 And NIL, because you have to blame NIL.

Speaker 1 But it's...

Speaker 3 This is a story that I think would have been a blip that people would have loved if it was 10, 15, 20 years ago. Yes.
The fact that it's happening right now, we hate everything.

Speaker 3 You give us one week of finding out things and reading news stories about one guy. We're going to start to hate that one guy.

Speaker 1 I also have a theory about it.

Speaker 1 A side note, I didn't love that he wasn't the one who went and got the jersey fixed.

Speaker 3 That also was a problem. It's like that is your day job.

Speaker 1 He got a little Hollywood, wasn't going to get, there was a jersey ripped early in the game for McNeese.

Speaker 3 I don't know if you heard, I don't get jerseys much.

Speaker 1 I don't clean those jerseys anymore. Amir Khan, Aura, going to NC State with Will Wade, which is kind of funny.
I do like that. I like that.
Transfer Portal.

Speaker 1 I think he's like been, he's like an assistant to the coach now, so it's not just student manager.

Speaker 1 He's getting six figures and then an IL. Yeah, he's getting crazy.
So that's part of why people hate on it.

Speaker 1 They hate on anyone who gets money.

Speaker 1 It was the worst tournament for him to have this storyline because we didn't have a Gulkie. We didn't have a crazy upset.
Everyone complained about no upsets in the first two days.

Speaker 1 And then on Saturday morning, we woke up, and the only storyline was a student manager. I think that's why people got very upset.

Speaker 3 It was Sister Gene in a tournament with no other reasons to pay attention.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Sister Gene was attached to a team that, and there was chaos everywhere, and, you know, Loyal hit a buzzer beater against Miami, all this stuff.

Speaker 1 McNeese just beat the fuck out of Clemson and then got the fuck beaten out of him by Purdue.

Speaker 3 Now, if they had gone to the Final Four, I think it would have swung back. Swung back.
Like, this guy is the shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because there would have been been enough time where people were like, dude, why are we hitting on this kid? Yeah. But yeah, he had the

Speaker 1 worst possible tournament setting to have because really, he got more time on camera than any other moment. Yeah.
Do you think?

Speaker 1 And I think people were just frustrated about the tournament. They're like, fuck this kid.

Speaker 3 Was he having conversations with NC State during this run?

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 1 Probably. Good for McNeese.
Purdue, by the way, Matt Painter,

Speaker 1 has he gone back to underrated?

Speaker 3 Now that he doesn't have just behemoth in the middle?

Speaker 1 No, I'm just saying, like, he, so obviously, the Sweet 16 loss, and then he lost, what was it, to North Texas or something a few years ago.

Speaker 1 There was that stat where he lost like a 12-seed, a 13-seed, 14, all the way up to 16.

Speaker 1 Matt Painter has been to the Sweet 16 six out of the last eight tournaments. He's been to a Final Four.
He's been to the National Championship.

Speaker 1 He had a team that a lot of

Speaker 1 parts that he had to fit together this year still were very, very good. They're in the Sweet 16 again.
He's won five Big Ten titles. I think Matt Payner is now underrated.

Speaker 1 That was my say something nice about Purdue minute. I think he's an underrated coach because year in and year out, he just consistently has Purdue very good.

Speaker 3 Counterpoint.

Speaker 3 They beat High Point.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then

Speaker 3 McNeese.

Speaker 1 Doesn't matter. You play who you play in the tournament.
Sometimes the tournament breaks your ways. Sometimes they make you play six out of 10 games in altitude against PYU.

Speaker 3 I'm going to wait and see what they do against Houston, and then I will make my judgment.

Speaker 1 He's either going to be overrated or underrated. I'm a big believer in

Speaker 1 enjoying the success along the trip because there's only going to be one winner anyway, and getting to a Sweet 16, getting to that second weekend is a success.

Speaker 1 Like, that's a check mark in my mind when it comes to coaching and tournaments. I think Matt Painter, like.

Speaker 1 The consistent coach, the consistently great coaches get to the Sweet 16 like every other year or six out of eight eight years. So I think he's underrated.

Speaker 1 And he hasn't won the big one. I get it.
But it's hard to do. There's a lot of really good coaches that didn't win the big one.

Speaker 1 So yeah,

Speaker 1 say something nice about Purdue.

Speaker 1 They will lose to Houston.

Speaker 3 I think they will.

Speaker 1 They will lose to Houston.

Speaker 3 They got a good matchup, too, because Clemson almost beat McNeese. I know it was close at the very, very end.
But they also started the game like 0 for 40.

Speaker 1 They scored 13 points in the first half. Yes.

Speaker 3 Bad, bad start for Clemson. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I'm not willing to say he's overrated or underrated just yet. I think he's exactly

Speaker 3 rated until if he loses to Houston, then overrated.

Speaker 1 Then overrated. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Kentucky, Illinois. This was just Illinois' season in a nutshell.
They shot 28% from three.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's it.
That's it. You basically, Illinois should, like, they should just, their season essentially is like, tell me what they're going to shoot from three.
Okay, win or loss.

Speaker 1 And that's it.

Speaker 1 And somehow, like, Kentucky is now like a feel-good story mark pope yeah people shit on the higher it was not their first candidate mark pope has him in the suite 16 something cal hadn't done since uh 2019 i know it's funny that cal's also in the suite 16 but yeah they're good kobe brea is awesome amari williams gets every rebound he's a stud

Speaker 1 and now they get to go round three against tennessee Unfortunately, our college basketball expert, Mark Titus, said that,

Speaker 1 didn't he say Tennessee beat them twice?

Speaker 3 He did say that Tennessee beat Kentucky twice. And Kentucky beat them.
The opposite seat twice.

Speaker 1 So now, hard to beat a team three times.

Speaker 3 Hard to beat a team three times. And I know that

Speaker 3 a lot of Tennessee fans were looking at the bracket before this whole thing started, and

Speaker 3 they're not excited about the prospect of playing against Kentucky. No.
Not at all. No.

Speaker 1 But Kentucky's fun. You're right.
Mark Pope.

Speaker 1 Kentucky's somehow an underdog. Yeah, somehow

Speaker 1 in the conscience of America.

Speaker 3 And Arkansas with Calapari, also somehow an underdog. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We've got underdogs everywhere.

Speaker 3 And BYU, where Pope came from, also

Speaker 1 an underdog. A lot of underdogs.

Speaker 3 A lot of guys that you can root for at these traditional underdogs.

Speaker 1 Speaking of underdogs, all the dogs got bounced from the tournament.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no more dogs. Max is probably pumped about that.

Speaker 1 Drake, out. Gonzaga.
I have a dog. Out everywhere.
Mississippi State, out. Georgia, out.
Tennessee, secondary. Yukon, out.

Speaker 3 Oh, Tennessee. They have a dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're the Vols, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Smokey.

Speaker 3 Smokey is an elite dog, too.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of dogs in this tournament, and they're all out. Pretty sad.
Bama, kind of a dog. How? In what way? Elephants are like friendly.

Speaker 3 Elephants are dog-like?

Speaker 3 Minus a point for Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Hank.

Speaker 1 I'd say I don't like dogs anymore. That's true.
You have a dog.

Speaker 1 Hank doesn't like dogs.

Speaker 1 Ah. All right, last game.
UCLA, Tennessee. It's just an ass-kicking.
Lanier and Ziegler are so good together.

Speaker 3 Lanier's been shooting lights out from the outside. I do love watching Ziegler play.
Oh, he's so good.

Speaker 3 And I hope he's a guy that I would like to also see stick around at Tennessee for like five more years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, great colour.

Speaker 1 He's my rule: you get one guy, he would be perfect.

Speaker 3 Him, Marquise Noel of Kansas State. Yeah.
I want to see these guys that are just like undersized elite ball handlers, great passers.

Speaker 3 They should be able to play for the school for Steven Ashworth at Creighton.

Speaker 1 Yeah. John Tanje at Wisconsin.
That would be nice.

Speaker 1 The big story, though, is Mick Cronin having a crash out after the game. Did you guys see this?

Speaker 3 I did not see after the game, no.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 in the press conference, so Mick Cronin has been very vocal this year about time zones, travel. He's not been happy.

Speaker 1 So because, you know, UCLA having to go, they had a bad record in Eastern Standard Time.

Speaker 1 He just was upset about all of it. And a reporter asked this, so this is the reporter.
I'll read the transcript. The reporter says, I know it's probably way too early to start thinking about.

Speaker 1 Mick Cronin says, then don't ask.

Speaker 1 And then the reporter says, at what point do you start looking forward rather than backwards? Mick Cronin says, right now, guys, it's 12.40 a.m. and our season just ended.
That's it.

Speaker 1 You're going to ask me about next year. Right now, my biggest concern is how bad the seats are on the Allegiant flight on that terrible plane that we're going to fly home tomorrow on.

Speaker 1 Then the reporter said, the school bus, and he said, the plane version of the cheese.

Speaker 1 The reporter said, hang in there, and Mick Cronin said, and is there any chance that Doug got me some hot food? Because I don't eat on game day. Then I got something edible.

Speaker 1 Not next year, not right now, guys.

Speaker 3 Okay, so that last piece was actually very important.

Speaker 1 He's just hangry. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He's just as grumpy because he hasn't had anything. That's like Hank waking up on grit week and doesn't get to eat a good breakfast.
That's how Mick Cronin was coaching that game.

Speaker 1 I just love a reporter saying, you know, at what point do you look forward to next year and not reminisce about this? He's like, I'm just fucking pissed off about this plane. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I need some food. It's the same thing with Dan Hiller, though.
Like, that's how you should be after. Yes.
When your season ends, like. I like it.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 I don't want him to be like, these were just such a special group. And, you know, maybe next week we'll start looking towards the future.
But right now, I'm just trying to save. No.

Speaker 1 He's going to get on a fucking Allegiant Air flight. He's pissed off.

Speaker 3 Is he really flying a Legion?

Speaker 1 It must be.

Speaker 3 That's tough. Times are tough.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Any other notes? Oh.

Speaker 3 Kentucky, Tennessee, 740 on Friday. Love it.
That game is going to be awesome. That game is going to be awesome.
I'm very excited about that. I feel like that's the highest rated game of the weekend.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. I had a couple other just random notes from the entire tournament.

Speaker 1 Did you guys see Liberty's head coach's hair?

Speaker 3 Yes, I did.

Speaker 1 That was awesome. It was awesome.
That guy thought he was fooling everyone. That guy probably was a little pissed that he made it to the tournament.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, no. Because he was like, shit.
No, I think he went out and he got that for the tournament.

Speaker 1 You think he got it for the tournament?

Speaker 3 This is my national television hair.

Speaker 1 Richie McKay, he just has spray-painted

Speaker 1 the male-pattern baldness away.

Speaker 3 I think it looks great.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But

Speaker 1 he was

Speaker 1 flying under the radar, and then he gets into the tournament. Everyone's like, what is this hair, dude? What are you trying to do?

Speaker 3 There's that old commercial from the 80s where it was for the hairspray, and it would be like, look, this spray covers up all the baldness. And then guys would spray their hair would magically grow.

Speaker 3 That's what it looks like in real life.

Speaker 1 So we talked about TJ Otzberger. We talked about Matt Painter.
We talked about Izzo.

Speaker 1 The guy who we should be talking about is Shaka Smart.

Speaker 1 So he got bounced on Friday.

Speaker 1 In his last nine NCAA tournament trips, Shaka Smart has been eliminated by a team at least three seed lines worse seven times and at least five seeds worse five times.

Speaker 1 Bad.

Speaker 1 He basically had the VCU run. He had five and one VCU, and then he just lost everything since.
But

Speaker 3 he also has a 26-page binder of their culture.

Speaker 1 True, which we got to get our hands on.

Speaker 3 Also, Shaka Smart, he had everybody thinking that he was bald like the Liberty coach when he shaved his head. True.
Which was stolen valor, and then he decides he's going to grow his hair out.

Speaker 3 He's able to have a full head of hair. That's bad vibes.

Speaker 1 Same with Buzz Williams, our guy. Yeah.
Although,

Speaker 3 I think Buzz Buzz did that just because of efficiency. He's like, that's one less thing.

Speaker 3 Every time I wash my hair, I could be watching tape. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Shaka Smart, that was not good. It was kind of stowed away because it was a Friday night

Speaker 1 loss. But yeah, he is not.
The tournament has not been kind to Shaka Smart. Still a good coach, but...
Not a good tournament coach right now. But he had the VCU run.

Speaker 1 And then we had

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 stats to back up that this has not been the best tournament. Just four games in the men's men's round of 64 this year, finished within five points or went to OT the lowest amount in 17 years.

Speaker 1 This also was the first time in 17 years that no one, two, three, or four was upset in the opening round. So there's stats to back it up.

Speaker 1 But shout out to Robert Morris and Bryant for trying.

Speaker 1 Those were the two closest. Bryant ended up losing by like 30.

Speaker 3 I'd forgotten about Bryant because it was such a blowout by the end.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Robert Morris,

Speaker 1 there was that one,

Speaker 1 I think they were up one with the ball, and they took a three. And if they had hit that three, we could have had magic.

Speaker 1 It was that what that was the closest we felt to March Madness, and we just couldn't fully capture it.

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Speaker 1 I'll throw it out to everyone. Who do we got winning all now that we're at the Sweet 16? Rebracket.
Duke. There's got to be so many perfect brackets.
You guys might have to cut up your.

Speaker 3 There are none.

Speaker 1 I'm in

Speaker 1 the 730th out of 750 in the cell blue bracket, but no perfect brackets. Okay.
Yeah. That's good.

Speaker 3 I think there are two maybe on ESPN.

Speaker 1 There was going into today or yesterday, but St. John's, the one I saw, St.
John's, blew that. Shout out the guy who I saw at the DraftKings Sportsbook in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 He was like, Big cat, how many perfect brackets do you think are left? This was on Thursday, like maybe at 9 p.m. And I was like, I don't know, dude.
He's like, 10 million. And I was like, okay.

Speaker 1 He's like, what if I told you I had one of them? I was like, I'm not impressed. That's pretty cool.
One of 10 million. Yeah, that's not impressive.
It's Thursday. And there's been no upsets.

Speaker 3 To me, when I look at them, every bracket's perfect.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think it's just going to be Duke.

Speaker 1 Duke. I think Duke's going to win it all.

Speaker 3 Duke, Michigan State.

Speaker 1 Duke.

Speaker 1 That would be a fun matchup.

Speaker 1 If it's Duke, Michigan State, they should let Coach K coach that.

Speaker 3 Just, yeah.

Speaker 1 Throwback. Yeah, the old guys.
He'll be there, right? Oh, for sure.

Speaker 1 Max Miskay, who you got winning it all?

Speaker 1 I picked Tennessee before, so I'll I'll stick with Tennessee. Okay, I think it's going to be.

Speaker 3 I respect that.

Speaker 1 I feel like that's the team

Speaker 1 who has the best shot that no one's talking about. I'd agree with that.

Speaker 1 That's why I picked them.

Speaker 3 Well, they'd have to get through Kentucky, possibly Houston, and then possibly Duke.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's tough.

Speaker 1 Tough draw, but. Got to be good teams to be aware of.
Got to be good teams.

Speaker 1 Got to be good teams to win the tournament. That's a fact.

Speaker 1 All right, any other thoughts from the tournament? We'll do who's back, if not. It's been fun.

Speaker 1 I just don't want to wake up tomorrow morning. It's going to suck not having basketball.

Speaker 3 It's been a great four days. It's been a good morning.

Speaker 1 It's been a very fun four days. Very fun four days.
I know it's not been the best tournament, but I still love it. Because someday you're going to be dead and there'll be no tournament.

Speaker 1 Think about that.

Speaker 1 How much will that suck?

Speaker 3 Pretty bad.

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Speaker 1 Oh yeah, that was crazy that it snowed on Thursday. Yeah.
But it did, I didn't, if there was one day where it could snow and it wouldn't bother me, it was the first day of of the NCAA.

Speaker 1 I preferred it, actually, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Get all the shit out.

Speaker 1 You don't feel bad staying inside when it's snowing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, Hank, who's back of the week? I have a few. One of them is literally right up PFT's alley, so I'll save it for him.
And if he doesn't say it, we can come back to him.

Speaker 3 I appreciate that, Hank. I think I know what it is.

Speaker 1 So my other one is Wyatt Hendrickson,

Speaker 1 Oklahoma State Wrestler. Yes.

Speaker 1 This was probably the most madness I felt until Sunday night. This was Saturday night, NCAA wrestling.
He was down a point to, what's his name, Gable Stevenson?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the real who's back is Gable Stevenson. Olympian, WWE wrestler, never lost in college.
Tried out for the Olympics. Somehow left college, signed with WWE, won the Olympics, came back.

Speaker 3 Yeah, if you have two jobs after you leave college, I don't know how you go back. One, okay, I'll look past that, but he tried out for the NFL and

Speaker 3 he signed with WWE. And then I saw it on TV, and I was like, are they replaying two years ago's wrestling tournament?

Speaker 1 So he was winning with, what was it, a minute and a half left? And Wyatt Hendrickson put him on his back, got two points.

Speaker 1 Don't know how wrestling works, wrestling scoring works, but one of the coolest scenes

Speaker 1 to watch live. We were watching it live in the cave, and it was just an electric moment, all-time upset.
Again, I don't, wrestling people will tell you it's like the biggest upset of all time.

Speaker 1 KB said that it was one of the most shocking wrestling moments.

Speaker 1 I also cannot wait to see KB.

Speaker 3 KB went to this.

Speaker 1 We'll talk about this because it's

Speaker 1 left early.

Speaker 3 He goes to the NCAA Wrestling National Championships. Gabe Stevenson is wrestling.
It's an iconic moment. Maybe the best collegiate wrestler of all time.

Speaker 3 And then he leaves, and in his Uber ride home, he finds out that he got upset at the last second.

Speaker 1 That's as bad as it gets. Yeah.

Speaker 3 KB is a bad sports town.

Speaker 1 It was bad. I texted him being like, how crazy is this? And he's like, I'm in an Uber.
I want to kill myself. Oh, yeah.
Not good. Brutal.
Not good.

Speaker 1 But I want to talk to him about it, too. Yeah.
Yeah. So, wow, this happened.
It was crazy. It was very cool.
All right. What other who's back?

Speaker 1 My other one is love. We kind of talked about it at the top of the show.
I don't know if you're going to use that one.

Speaker 3 Tiger? Yeah.

Speaker 1 We can't talk about it.

Speaker 3 He asked us to respect his privacy in his Twitter post.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And Instagram.
And Instagram.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you got to go multi-platforms.

Speaker 1 Sorry, so I'll just read his captions.

Speaker 3 You have to tell as many people as possible

Speaker 1 to keep this quiet out. Yeah.
Love is in the air and life is better with you by my side. This is a picture of him and

Speaker 1 Don Jr.'s ex-wife,

Speaker 1 who still has the last name Trump for some reason. Yeah, what's up with that? Couldn't tell you.

Speaker 3 That might have been like a name for life type deal.

Speaker 3 If you have kids, I believe she does have kids.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're a woman and you're getting divorced

Speaker 1 i think it might be the first thing that's got to go is the last name yeah but

Speaker 1 this you throw a hyphen in there this no i don't even think you'd throw a hyphen i think you just gotta ditch it i agree but like if you're gonna if you're if you're gonna say it's for the kids be like i'm you know smith trump yeah woods trump would be a powerful name though Yeah, now if...

Speaker 1 Anyway, I'll finish it. Sorry.
We look forward to our journey through life together at this time. We would appreciate privacy for all those close to our hearts.

Speaker 1 So we're not going to to talk about it so weekly post tiger woods is dating someone related to the trumps no but we're not well i mean related in the fact that she she birthed trumps oh true yeah uh

Speaker 1 but we're not going to talk about it we're not because he asked us not to tiger woods and trump yes don't talk about it but they're we don't know that they're dating it just said that they're in love

Speaker 1 oh they could be not dating maybe they just met and they're like we're in love love is in the air

Speaker 3 now this could be good for Tiger because if she's got Trump grandchildren,

Speaker 3 anytime Tiger is with those kids, he gets somebody to drive him around.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 3 Like a professional driver. So Tiger doesn't have to worry about running afoul of the law.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's a good point.
Very good point.

Speaker 3 How do you think Charlie feels about this?

Speaker 1 Now that's the real question. Charlie, if you want to talk, your uncles are here.
Not in a creepy way.

Speaker 3 But we're here for you, bro. You want to just rap about anything?

Speaker 1 I think he's happy. His dad's happy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he found love. Yeah.
And you know what? Charlie's probably not even talking about either. He's probably respecting their privacy.

Speaker 3 He's focused on grinding out on the golf course.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Very weird. Very weird to ask for privacy.
Like, for a second, I thought someone died or something. Well, that's been rumored.

Speaker 1 And like, I think it's been probably, you know, talked about tabloids, gossip sites. So they probably were thinking, let's address it, but then keep it private.
But that is just not how it works.

Speaker 1 Once you post about it,

Speaker 1 one of the kids is Kai Trump.

Speaker 1 She's like a good golfer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 And Tiger Woods could be her stepdad? That's pretty.

Speaker 3 He's the dad who stepped up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Charlie and Kai got to play a 1v1.

Speaker 3 So,

Speaker 3 yeah, we're not going to talk about it. No, we haven't talked about it.

Speaker 3 And we won't. We'll continue to respect his wishes for privacy.
But the two pictures that he put accompanying the post, the first one was pretty normal, I would say.

Speaker 3 They're just like standing next to each other. They look happy.
I'm happy. And then the second one was in a hammock.

Speaker 3 And it looked like that picture of Willie Mays that Barry Bonds took, remember where everyone was like, oh, shit, is this Willie Mays' funeral? Is he dead? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 That's what that looked like for Tiger. It looked like he was dead in a hammock laying next to her.
And then you're like, who took that picture?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was weird. Maybe Charlie.
Maybe Charlie. Or Kai.
Okay. They go to the same school.
Oh, yeah. Oh, so they met in the pickup line.
They must have. That's exactly what happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they both go. Charlie Woods and Kai Trump both go to the Benjamin School.

Speaker 3 Are they the same age?

Speaker 1 Look up. Where's the Benjamin School? In Florida? How bad did they get beat by Cooper Flag in Mount Verde? Probably got smoked.

Speaker 1 Oh, they probably got beat. They were fucking killed by him.

Speaker 3 What if Charlie and the Trump granddaughter, what if love was in the air with them? Are they the same age?

Speaker 1 I think they're both both underage.

Speaker 3 But what if they

Speaker 3 can date somebody?

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 3 What are you trying to say? I'm just saying, that'd be wild.

Speaker 1 That would be wild. That would be very wild.

Speaker 3 Yeah, she's 17, he's 16.

Speaker 1 That would be very wild.

Speaker 1 But yeah, we're going to respect the privacy. By the way, I have a hammock take.
They suck. Most overrated thing in the world.
That's insane.

Speaker 3 No. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, he's talking about getting out of hammocks.

Speaker 3 Getting out of hammocks sucks.

Speaker 1 It's a big guy thing. No, I hate them, too.
Yeah, Max, I knew you'd back me up. Me and Hank are just

Speaker 1 scary.

Speaker 1 A southern athlete.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, you're not taking naps in a hammock. Oh, I've taken a nap in a hammock.
I've taken so many naps.

Speaker 3 You ever sipped an iced tea in a hammock?

Speaker 1 Especially if

Speaker 1 you have your shirt off, then like the

Speaker 1 hammocks are put on a pedestal as like the king of relaxation. No.
Hank's.

Speaker 3 Give me a day bed.

Speaker 1 Point Hank.

Speaker 1 Again,

Speaker 1 I know it's a big guy take. Hammocks, I don't trust them.
What do you want me to say? I get in a hammock and it's a problem.

Speaker 3 Day beds are, it's like, hey, we're going to put a bed in this room and it's going to be smaller and you're not going to fit on it.

Speaker 3 I'm not going to be as comfortable as a real bed.

Speaker 1 I'm going to slap an air mattress on the table. Exactly.
No, you fucking idiots. I'm talking about the ones outside.
Like, real furniture outside is awesome. That's better than a hammock.

Speaker 3 Hammocks are different. Way better.

Speaker 1 Way better. Way better.

Speaker 3 Bad take.

Speaker 1 You just have never been on nice furniture outside.

Speaker 3 I've been on nice furniture outside. Hammocks are getting out of the hammock.

Speaker 1 That's so crazy. Getting in.
There's outdoor furniture, you idiot. Yeah, but it's cheap because it's outside.
No, it's not. I said nice.

Speaker 1 You have not confirmed you have not been on nice furniture outside.

Speaker 1 Because nice furniture should not be outside. But there is nice furniture out there.
There is nice outdoor furniture. It's better than hammocks.

Speaker 3 No. No, it's not.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Getting into the hammock is tough sometimes. Getting out of the hammock sucks.

Speaker 1 Do you want like a sleep number fucking mattress on the porch? Yeah, I just need to

Speaker 1 do it. How is that a dip? What happens when it rains?

Speaker 1 then then trying to fucking get myself into some little cocoon of rope yeah i would like a i would like a bed have you have you slept on a king max i own that outdoor couch yes i own that i also own a hammock and i'm on the hammock to nap not on that couch you're which one do you go on more the hammock I sit on the couch.

Speaker 3 If I'm watching TV, I go on the hammock. I'm going to lay down.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go over just to go on the hammock. Yeah.
You want to have a hammock day? I got two of them. Oh, fucking.
Dueling hammocks. Do it.
Max and I will be sitting like God intended on furniture.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was way too expensive.

Speaker 3 That was a big mess

Speaker 3 by Max, though, bringing up the couch I own as a counterexample.

Speaker 1 That's a nice one. About this one.

Speaker 3 I don't own that one. Fucking this one.

Speaker 1 That's so full of fish. Yeah, what happens when it rains? It's outdoor

Speaker 1 furniture. Again, you don't understand outdoor furniture, you moron.
That looks like a whatever. You don't.
You just say you don't, like, listen.

Speaker 1 I knew that when I did the hammock take, it was going to probably be me and Max versus the World because big guys can't trust hammocks.

Speaker 1 But what we found out with the hammock take is you don't know what outdoor furniture is. You're going to admit that.
You should spend a lot of money on outdoor furniture.

Speaker 1 You should not put it outside. That's my take.
That's so wrong.

Speaker 1 Stand super rich people like you just spend a lot of money on everything.

Speaker 3 You it doesn't make sense to put it outside.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? There's outdoor furniture.

Speaker 1 But not like you shouldn't spend, you shouldn't break the bank on outdoor furniture. You don't want to sit outside? I do, but it doesn't need to be like anything.
This is crazy.

Speaker 1 Listen. This is crazy.
This is crazy.

Speaker 3 This is crazy. Here's what you guys aren't thinking about with the outdoor furniture.

Speaker 3 You have to pick all those pillows up and take them inside and store them in like a waterproof thing if it's bad weather. A hammock, you just leave the hammock out there.

Speaker 1 Okay. I still would rather sit on the really comfortable outdoor furniture.

Speaker 3 Sit hand does not know.

Speaker 1 Lay down hammock. Bank does not know what outdoor furniture is.
The maintenance is not worth what the comfort. Maintenance.
Fucking money. There's a lot of maintenance.
There's a couple pillows?

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 I got to stack them sometimes. The maintenance is really where they get you.
Hank,

Speaker 1 I don't want you ever sitting on outdoor furniture. Ever.

Speaker 1 I mean, ever. See,

Speaker 3 Hank, he's moving the gold.

Speaker 1 No, I won't sit on a hammock again in my life. He's talking about sitting.
We're talking about laying down. I won't lay down on a hammock again in my life.
I don't want you touching outdoor furniture.

Speaker 1 I will touch outdoor furniture. You don't respect it.

Speaker 1 You think it's stupid? No, I love. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's such bullshit. You just said it was stupid.
No, I think it's stupid to spend a lot of money on it. What? Okay.
You spend money on dumb shit all the time. Obviously.

Speaker 1 Not outdoor furniture. You just got to spend it.
Also, one day you are going to buy nice outdoor furniture. You will.
And I'm going to laugh in your face when you do it because you absolutely will.

Speaker 3 Hank's got some garbage outdoor furniture. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And when he does. Yeah.
And when you do spend fucking outdoors. Yeah, you will.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you will be forced to do it, and I'm going to laugh at you. Wouldn't it, If you like to sit outside,

Speaker 1 wouldn't you want it to be nice? And comfortable? If you had the choice of nice outdoor furniture

Speaker 1 or not nice outdoor furniture, you would prefer to sit on nice outdoor furniture. You guys are twisting the argument, whatever.
No, we're not. No,

Speaker 3 we've separated the original argument. Hank is correct.

Speaker 1 Hammocks are a great place to lay down. Again, I'll concede that's a big guy take that I knew that when I said it, it was going to be me and Max versus the world.

Speaker 1 Hank then revealed himself to just hate outdoor furniture. Okay.
You did? I did not. You said, what's the point of buying outdoor furniture?

Speaker 1 What's the point of buying nice outdoor furniture?

Speaker 1 Because it's nice to be able to sit on nice shit.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it's meant to be outdoors. I think you think that outdoor furniture is you just buy a couch that's like an indoor couch and put it outside and then it rains once.
You're like, ruined. I've done that.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 This is insane.

Speaker 3 Now it's your point.

Speaker 3 What the truly elite thing to do is to just on a nice day take your indoor television and then pick it up and walk it outside and put it down be like i'm gonna watch sports outside today

Speaker 1 yeah i like that look at this thing i i mean that's incredible you kidding me you'd rather just be hamming this thing yeah you've also definitely been on vacation and been on like super nice outdoor furniture and had a great time probably

Speaker 1 or a beach

Speaker 1 I don't know. I feel like I'm just like outdoor furniture is just like it's ever been in a cabana in a beach.
Like

Speaker 3 there's nice furniture, but that's like on a vacation at a nice place. Most people, if they're going to have something outside, a hammock is way more accessible than that thing probably costs like 30.

Speaker 1 I think there's a lot of the like nice.

Speaker 1 No, that one's not that expensive.

Speaker 1 That one's stupid. All right.

Speaker 1 Do you have any other who's backs?

Speaker 1 No. Okay.
PFC.

Speaker 3 Do the one that you thought I was going to do. Deli.
Yeah, that was the one.

Speaker 1 What is it? Delhi. Delivery.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 So he played in the NBL. He was named the finals MVP, which is great.
Good for Delhi. Despite the fact that

Speaker 3 his team, Melbourne United, lost the game and the title to the Illawarra Hawks. So Delhi at the podium, he got the trophy for MVP.

Speaker 3 Which, by the way, is a very funny thing to do to give the MVP to somebody on the losing team. Yeah.
It never happens anymore.

Speaker 3 But he said that the guard for the Hawks, Will Davo Hickey, was more deserving of the award. So Deli walked off the stage with the MVP trophy and gave it to Hickey.
That's awesome. That's so Deli.

Speaker 3 That's so.

Speaker 1 I love that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Davo.

Speaker 3 I also love the fact that Deli is still playing at a high enough level to be the finals MVP. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Melbourne. Yeah.
Pretty damn cool.

Speaker 3 You take it Davo.

Speaker 1 Is that the

Speaker 1 New Zealand

Speaker 1 Breakers? St. Louis.
Oh, St. Louis.
Yeah. NBL.
We didn't make it.

Speaker 1 No. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Clearly not. We didn't make the championship.
We're a football basketball team.

Speaker 1 We had that one.

Speaker 1 We had that one draft pick that was horrible. Oh, Dr.
Hadson. No.
No. No.

Speaker 1 R.J. A.
R.J. Hampton.

Speaker 1 R.J. Hampton.
Is he still in the league? Yeah, I think so. Maybe.
He might be.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was supposed to be big time.

Speaker 1 I'm either who. He's averaging a 1.2-point scheme.
Oh, for who?

Speaker 1 The Heat.

Speaker 1 Last year. Last year.
Last year.

Speaker 1 Oh, he might be on the Wizards now.

Speaker 3 No way.

Speaker 1 It looked like he had

Speaker 1 G-League. The G-League Go-Go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Wizards.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.

Speaker 3 You all said what? My other who's back of the week is Jim Morrison, maybe. Oh.

Speaker 3 He might be alive. Oh, shit.
So apparently there's a documentary. I think it's on Apple TV.

Speaker 1 All right, yeah.

Speaker 3 Apple TV

Speaker 3 that claims that he's still alive. It was done by a super fan of the Doors and of Jim Morrison.
He says that he did not die in Paris in 1971.

Speaker 3 They said that he faked his own death and there was never an autopsy done to determine the cause.

Speaker 3 And then he says I think he lives somewhere in the Midwest right now and this dude is like trying to track him down and find this guy.

Speaker 3 So Jim Morrison, the Liver King, might still be alive, which would be, that would be the ultimate who's back. Holy shit.
Faking deaths.

Speaker 3 I've always wondered how many people fake their deaths and get away with it. It's got to be more than you think, right?

Speaker 1 There was that that one dude a few months ago, I think it was from Wisconsin who faked his death and then just moved to like Lithuania and got a new wife. H-Man.
And then they

Speaker 1 zoomed him and he's like, Yeah, I'm here. Steve Jobs.

Speaker 3 That McAfee guy, Epstein.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tupac.

Speaker 1 D.B. Cooper.

Speaker 3 Tupac, good one, yeah. Well, he didn't really fake his own death.
They just never found him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, my who's back is

Speaker 1 the national anthem. Did you guys see this? The Bongo National Anthem.
Very funny. There was in the, I think it was Ducks vs.

Speaker 1 Predators, and the Ducks started slow, and they asked afterwards what happened in the game, and the Ducks player was like, yeah, the national anthem kind of fucked us up, but then we found our footing, and I was like, there's no way.

Speaker 1 And then I watched the clip. Max, I DM'd it to you.

Speaker 1 It was a hell of a national anthem. They played on the Bongos?

Speaker 1 Kind of.

Speaker 3 I've been saying for years that they need to do a national anthem on the drums. Watch this.

Speaker 1 Kind of. I thought it was going to be just bongos.

Speaker 1 And it totally makes sense.

Speaker 1 But once we recovered from that, we were back to our game, which was good. Staff Sergeant Bruce Gustavas

Speaker 1 of the Congo's.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's awesome. I know, he's awesome.

Speaker 1 He's a beast.

Speaker 1 I think this might be the future of the national anthem.

Speaker 3 This is pretty good, yeah.

Speaker 3 Max,

Speaker 3 there was a time, I think it was Chad Smith from the Chili Peppers. I think he played the national anthems, the national anthem on the drums before Lakers game.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He did.

Speaker 3 It's wild. Look that up.

Speaker 1 He did. And hot chili peppers.
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, here it is.

Speaker 1 Oh, that kind of rocks. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You can

Speaker 3 kind of squint a little bit and think that it's Will Farrell.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm into that.

Speaker 1 Memes.

Speaker 1 On Wednesday, can you explain to us Ashton Hall?

Speaker 1 Oh, I could. Sure.
He's the best. Okay.

Speaker 1 We'll maybe do a explain that memes on Wednesday

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 I would like to know. Also,

Speaker 1 Friday, you guys want to talk Severance?

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
I think that should be a recurring thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, even when there's no season. Yeah.
We just talk about it. But yeah, I think every Friday for the next three years.
So go catch up on Severance. And yeah, we'll do our finale recap.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good show, boys.
We made it. March Madness.

Speaker 1 Numbers. 3.

Speaker 1 16. 1.

Speaker 1 6.

Speaker 1 40.

Speaker 3 44.

Speaker 1 15.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 1 What if today's the day? It's hot. It's not going to be today.
It feels like

Speaker 1 76.

Speaker 1 Didn't get it.

Speaker 3 Tribe. Love you guys.