Bill Raftery, Conference Championship Thursday, Oldie Is Back With The Boys + Fyre Fest Of The Week

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We recap an awesome day of college hoops (00:00:00-00:26:29). Talk some Players Championship and national sports podcast news plus Oldie the Canadian is back in the booth with the boys (00:26:29-00:53:53). The legendary Bill Raftery joins the show to talk about March Madness, his career, being a legend of the late night game, the genesis of Onions and more (00:53:53-01:34:46). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (01:34:46-02:00:25).


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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have the legendary Bill Raftery. Great interview with him talking about his career, March madness, some of the awesome stories from the road.

Speaker 1 Kind of a bucket list interview because he is someone that we just is synonymous with March and all the big moments. We are going to talk about some college basketball, incredible day of hoops.

Speaker 1 And we have our good friend Oldie back in studio sitting next to Mac. So we're going to have some good vibes as well.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, March 14th, and this is March because what a day of hoops we watched PFT. There were so many awesome games, so many awesome finishes.

Speaker 1 My eyes feel like they're going to fall out of my head, but it was awesome.

Speaker 8 When God made the calendar, he made February two days shorter so we could have more March. That's a fact.
And thank you for doing that, dear Lord. And also, thank you to Oldie.
He's back.

Speaker 8 Because Oldie's back. He's in the booth right now.
Oldie's picks were red hot today. Yeah.
What, five and one?

Speaker 1 Four and one. Four and one.
Fired out of the game. I went four and all.

Speaker 1 We had a bit of a crumbler at the end of there. Yeah,

Speaker 8 we'll get to that. He knows ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll get to that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good job, Oldie. Oldie is back.
Oldie, what were your impressions from the gambling cave today? Because this was your first time being around us in these high-stakes situations.

Speaker 8 And we should say that if you missed the episode after the Four Four Nation, excuse me, after the All-Star game, the NHL all-star game.

Speaker 1 The NHL all-star.

Speaker 8 Oldie is our Canadian.

Speaker 8 You're representing the entire nation on part of my take.

Speaker 1 And he kind of belongs to us because the whole tariff situation.

Speaker 8 Yeah, so you're ours. Yeah.

Speaker 8 So if you didn't listen to that, go back and also listen to that episode because Oldie's the man. Yeah, Oldie, big cat's question.

Speaker 8 What were your impressions of the cave?

Speaker 1 Oh, like I told the guys and girls in there tonight,

Speaker 1 one of the best ever experiences watching a basketball game ever, ever. I love basketball now.
Yeah, Projo in there was Projo live.

Speaker 1 Everyone, I felt like it was a tennis match left, right, left, right, up, down. What water am I at? I get lost.
I have so many great games.

Speaker 8 It's easy to get lost in March, too, when there's multiple games going on.

Speaker 8 You just have to make decisions and say, I'm going to zero in on this, I'm going to ignore this game where the second half just started, and I'll get back to it.

Speaker 8 It'll be there when I'm done with this game, right?

Speaker 1 And then we just go left, go right, back on big screen, off big screen. Yep.
And what did you think about some, there was tempers at some points during the day. Oh, it's good.

Speaker 1 Did you like that? Oh, I love that. Should we play the Max video? We should probably play the Max video.

Speaker 8 He said that his mom's going to get mad.

Speaker 1 Well, she probably already saw it, so what are you going to do? I mean, it was an all-time rant, but this is what March

Speaker 1 is gambling with your friends, but also just losing it. And I'll say this in Max's defense.

Speaker 1 Everything that you're about to hear him say was all fair play because it was all in the confines of the gambling cave in in March where you can say the most vicious things to your friends and it doesn't count.

Speaker 1 Yes, between the lines. It does not count.
It should not count. You can act however you want to act.
It should not count.

Speaker 1 Max. It must have been, I want to say, like 34 seconds of completely losing his brain.
He lost it. He lost it.
He lost it. There was zero.
He went and he went. Yeah.
He well deserved, though.

Speaker 1 It also is a nice refresher that for anyone who thought if Max, when Max wins the Super Bowl, he's not going to still be Max.

Speaker 8 He's still Max. He's still Max.

Speaker 1 He's still Max. Okay, here it is.
This is after the end of the Villanova game, which we'll get to.

Speaker 1 And our friend Rico Bosco said, well, Max, at least he bet you, Connie. He's like, at least I didn't rub it in your face.
And Max then said this.

Speaker 8 Max, in fairness, I didn't say a word the entire game.

Speaker 1 I saw you fucking dance, you fucking cocksucker. Shut the fuck up.
Actually, shut the fuck up. You fucking piece of shit pussy.
Go suck some more dick.

Speaker 1 Go ask fucking Danny Hurley the next time he comes on PNT if you can get his fucking shoelace. Huh?

Speaker 1 Pussy. Fucking.

Speaker 1 That sounded like...

Speaker 1 You know, when in Hollywood, they'll be... He's fucking dancing.
He's playing it again.

Speaker 4 He's also so far away from the microphone, he's still so loud.

Speaker 1 It's one of those

Speaker 1 TMZ reports Christian Bale caught on Live Might, freaking out. One of those, or David O.
Russell,

Speaker 1 screams at

Speaker 1 the whole.

Speaker 1 I can't even talk about it. The lighting crew.
Yeah, the lighting crew.

Speaker 8 We've been freaking out on the behind the scenes, guys, Max.

Speaker 1 But that was fun.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 I honestly, because we watched so much hoops today, I was going to just literally scroll the scores and just anything we wanted to talk about, any games we wanted to shout out.

Speaker 1 And the first one is Cooper Flags.

Speaker 1 turned ankle. Yeah,

Speaker 1 wheelchair.

Speaker 8 It looked pretty bad. It looked bad enough where I think he's not going to be 100% in the tournament.

Speaker 1 So I have a doctor on staff, Dr. Dan.
He's also a Duke fan. He said that

Speaker 1 probably out for the ACC tournament.

Speaker 1 March Madness. He wouldn't be surprised if they sit him out the first game because he'll win anyway.
And then

Speaker 1 probably a Torradol shot, steroid shot, wrap him up. He could probably go in the second round if needed.

Speaker 8 They might keep him out both games.

Speaker 1 They could. I don't know.

Speaker 1 And Malik Brown got hurt too, separated his shoulder. I think he's going to be out for the year.
And he's not like their star player, but he was a key piece.

Speaker 8 I'm not a doctor, but on the bench. You can say a sprain is worse than a break.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It wasn't a high ankle sprain. That's the only good thing.

Speaker 8 Yeah, because it rolled.

Speaker 8 It didn't get caught under emergency.

Speaker 1 His foot is going to just be a size of a softball with very black and blue. But the wheelchair.

Speaker 8 That was a tough look.

Speaker 1 That was a duo.

Speaker 8 He might have just shat himself. It might have been a Paul Pierce situation.

Speaker 1 This is why.

Speaker 1 Better say than sorry. I wish players could stay longer.
And I know that it wouldn't matter because he's just a freshman, but when Cooper Flag got hurt today,

Speaker 1 if that were Grayson Allen

Speaker 1 or any other Duke players that I hated, I would have reveled in it. I didn't really feel anything because I kind of feel bad for Cooper Flag.
He's an awesome player to watch.

Speaker 1 I hate Duke, but I wanted to have more hate and I didn't have it.

Speaker 8 Well, I don't think he's that hatable of a guy.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 8 Even for a Duke player.

Speaker 1 Because he's not there. Like, if he stayed a couple more years, you know, he'd start kicking guys in the ball.
Yes, and that would be very funny. We'd see him cry in the March Madness tournament.

Speaker 1 We'd get the hate. They're just so, it's so transactional.
They're in and out that I just don't even have it for him.

Speaker 8 I agree. If this was a Mick Roberts, if this was a Plumlee, we'd be like, shout out our guy.

Speaker 8 But he's no longer a Duke.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So we like him.

Speaker 8 But Flag, yeah, it was a tough look in the wheelchair. I get that they it was a long way to the training room.
Yeah. That's that's their explanation for it.
But yeah, I hope he's a Cooper better.

Speaker 8 Hey, I want to send a message, though, to Cooper Flagg.

Speaker 1 Cooper,

Speaker 8 this is why you got to go to the NBA. Yeah.
No matter who drafts you, no matter who is in position in the lottery, you're risking injury if you come back.

Speaker 8 I know you could get NIL if you came back, but this is the chance to earn life-changing money for you and your family. If the Wizards get the first lotto pick, don't even think twice.
Go to the NBA.

Speaker 8 Don't listen to Andy Staples.

Speaker 8 He doesn't have your best interest in heart. He's got his best interest in heart because he's a college guy.

Speaker 1 Also, you could have a chance to play with Wemby because I don't don't know if you guys saw, but

Speaker 1 who got hurt today? Fox. Yeah, Fox.

Speaker 1 He's having pinky surgery, which

Speaker 1 just reads, We're trying to tank. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Just cut it off.

Speaker 1 We're tanking this whole thing. Pinky surgery.
All right, so that was Duke. Duke survived, but I want to see Cooper Flag in the tournament.
That would suck if he misses extended time.

Speaker 1 But the wheelchair was the story. St.
John's rolled. Good job, Rick Petino.

Speaker 1 BYU is a shocker. I know that wasn't like, you know, they're a very good team, but they were underdogs, and Iowa State was having a good season.
So BYU, the Mormons, we also.

Speaker 8 They were what, three and a half-point underdogs?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to get you ready for a storyline, PFT. When Selection Sunday, we're going to have to do the whole discussion of where BYU gets seeded.

Speaker 1 Did they get screwed because they can't play on Sundays? Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, so they have to move them around.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So did they lose a seed because they had to fit them in somewhere they shouldn't have been?

Speaker 1 That would be fun. Yeah, all two minutes.

Speaker 8 Just play on Sundays.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Play on Sundays.

Speaker 1 Just don't drink.

Speaker 1 Just go to hell.

Speaker 8 Just accept, like, I'm going to go to hell, but it's worth it because I get to play in March.

Speaker 1 Also, God is definitely a March Madness fan, so

Speaker 1 he'd be fine with it. Amen.
Amen. Thank you, Aldi.
The Texas, Texas AM game was insane. Yeah.
Double overtime, back and forth. Those two teams don't like each other.

Speaker 8 They don't. Rivalry game.
Buzz going after it. Yeah.
Buzz interesting decisions at the end.

Speaker 1 Yes, I would say so. But to put it lightly, yeah.

Speaker 8 I root for Buzz, but sometimes he makes me say, Buzz,

Speaker 8 maybe your suit's too tight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little bit. A little bit.

Speaker 1 My Badgers beat with Northwestern needed that just for some Mojo. Klezmut's back, so it feels good.
Yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 Also, Indiana, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oldie was a Badger fan and Villanova fan today, so he went one and one.

Speaker 1 He's wearing the Villanova shirt right now. right now.
But you got to get the Badger stuff back on tomorrow. Oh, yeah.
You got a big

Speaker 1 tilt against UCLA. Top of my backpack, ready to go.
All right. Ready to rock and roll tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Also, Indiana might be out of the tournament now. I don't know if you saw that.

Speaker 8 I did. They were the first four out.
Yes. With Ohio State and I guess.
Ohio State.

Speaker 1 Was Ohio State one of the.

Speaker 8 They were one of the first four out today, yeah.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, yes.

Speaker 1 Yep. And then, yeah, let's see.

Speaker 8 Texas.

Speaker 1 Texas probably plays now.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at the. Oh, he doesn't even update it on Twitter?

Speaker 8 No, it was on the broadcast. Okay.
He was doing it live on the broadcast. Lenardi.
God damn. But again, Joe Lennardi is not always correct.

Speaker 1 Joe Lenardi also is probably napping right now. So, all right, I'm trying to look to see if he updated it anywhere.
Does he not do a live bracketology update?

Speaker 1 How are you not doing a minute-by-minute update?

Speaker 8 I think he only does it on the air, so you have to watch the games for it.

Speaker 1 Well, I know he writes an article, too, but it doesn't, like, this, it should be out.

Speaker 1 There should be updates every second.

Speaker 1 It's ridiculous. Max, don't you agree? Yes, agreed.
Wait, what's today's date? Oh, he did update it at 6 o'clock. My bad.
Whoops. Sorry, Joe Lenardi.
He did update it.

Speaker 1 All right, last four in right now are San Diego State, Xavier, North Carolina, Texas. First four out are Indiana, Ohio State, Boise State, Colorado State.

Speaker 1 Next four out, Dayton, UC, Irvine, Wake Forest, Villanova.

Speaker 8 This is the end of the run for

Speaker 8 Neptune. Kyle Neptune.

Speaker 1 We'll get to that in a little bit. Yeah, we'll get to that in a little minute.
We'll get to that in a minute.

Speaker 1 All right. Oh, Marquette, Xavier was an incredible game, too.
Xavier totally blew it at the end, although Marquette was just hitting every shot.

Speaker 1 And then Xavier, with the shot of the day in terms of covering,

Speaker 1 with a half-court bank shot to cover two and a half. That's what March is about.

Speaker 8 It didn't mean anything for the game. No.

Speaker 1 It meant a lot. Meant a lot.
Meant a lot. That was real.

Speaker 1 That's real basketball right there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Deep woods. Boom.
Boom. Shaboom.
Shaboom. The room lit up, bumping and grinding.
Everyone was fired up on the couches. People were going dizzy.
I was even fired up. I didn't have any gun to line.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I was still fired up.
Oh, we had two buzzer beaters, too.

Speaker 1 Or we might have had more, but Ole Miss, buzzer beater on Arkansas, and then Chucky Hepburn and Louisville, buzzer beater on Stanford. Yeah, Stanford.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the ball was just flying around, and he got it in perfect shot at the end. That was awesome.

Speaker 8 It is great, man.

Speaker 8 This is such a fun time to just sit on your ass and watch sports.

Speaker 1 Watch so much sports.

Speaker 1 Oh, we got the Kentucky. Oh, that overdun.

Speaker 8 Sorry. PFT.

Speaker 1 It's okay.

Speaker 1 DePaul with almost the upset of the day that they just fought their asses off, but we knew it. They just couldn't survive double overtime.

Speaker 8 If you're buying stock in any program right now, I feel like you could do worse than DePaul.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if Chris Holtman stays. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Now, if he leaves, then that's, I guess that's the risk that you take. But this is a great penny stock.
Yeah. This is a great shit coin to invest in.

Speaker 1 Yes. We should actually make Holtman shit coins.
Yeah. Someone probably already did.

Speaker 1 I also want to give a just special shout out to Middle Tennessee because I watched every second of that game. Absolute war.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen, I don't know if I've ever seen that where Middle Tennessee hit a buzzer beater to end the game, but he got the shot off in time for it to be a buzzer beater, but it was late on the shot clock violation.

Speaker 1 There was one second left.

Speaker 8 So you had some of the orange on the backboard light up, and then a half second later, the rest of the backboard lit up.

Speaker 1 They started the possession with 31 seconds left. Yeah.
And he got it off for a buzzer beater, but it was shot clock violation.

Speaker 8 Now, if that was the Chiefs' plan, they would have just turned off the shot clock, right? Yes. That's how it worked with them?

Speaker 1 Absolutely. There's been like good basket.
We're just going to go. Just pretend it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 Also, Arizona looked good against Kansas. Kansas is just broken.

Speaker 1 They're not going to be. That's going to be one of those ones where they're going to be be a five or six, and everyone's going to say, oh, my God, down goes Kansas.

Speaker 1 We watched them all year. They weren't good.

Speaker 8 Are we ready to say that Kansas is going to be the five seed that you should bet against?

Speaker 1 It might be a six. I got to see where they are.
Let me see bracketology.

Speaker 8 I kind of hope they're a five seed.

Speaker 1 Lenardi is because they've fallen down the stretch. Let's see.
Kansas, six. They're six.
I'm taking whoever plays against Kansas to W. There you go.
There you go, Oldie. Right now,

Speaker 1 Lenardi has it San Diego State, North Carolina as the play-in game. That would kind of suck North Carolina, Kansas in the first round if North Carolina won that game.

Speaker 8 The play-in game for UNC, huh? I mean, I know they deserve it, but that would be shocking to see. That would be very shocking.
But those aren't playing colors. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then the best part is tomorrow is maybe one of my favorite days of the year because, and I know I say that a lot, Hank, but it's the... The matchups are the best.
Yes, we got creme de la creme.

Speaker 8 We got Florida playing. Florida, Tennessee, right?

Speaker 1 Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama. The Big Tens got great games.
Michigan State, Oregon to start is going to be great.

Speaker 1 Badgers play UCLA. I think Illinois plays Maryland.
And then Purdue versus Purdue.

Speaker 1 That sucked. USC got screwed.
That was a.

Speaker 8 That sucked. Titus brought up a good point when we were watching that game, and that's that Purdue still gets the Zach Edie fouls.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 And Zach Edie's not there.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 8 But it's just muscle memory for the rest. It's institutional.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
It's just carryover. But it was a great day of hoops.
I don't know what else to say. Oh, we should talk about the Villanova game.

Speaker 1 Max,

Speaker 1 that was tough to watch.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, that was just the entire season.

Speaker 2 Except for Eric Dixon, played much worse than he normally played this season. That was the only difference.

Speaker 1 Go up.

Speaker 2 Look good. 75% of the game.
Absolute fucking pitfall.

Speaker 8 What was the run that it ended on? Because it was shocking to watch.

Speaker 2 I think 22-2 or something.

Speaker 1 22-2.

Speaker 1 And Dixon, how much?

Speaker 2 Dixon went 2 for 15 from the field.

Speaker 8 And how many points did he need to get the record?

Speaker 2 He needed 16 points to break the all-time scoring record at Villanova.

Speaker 8 And he's the highest scoring player in the country.

Speaker 2 And he's the leading scorer in the country. Went 2 for 15 in a way that ended their season, ended his career, and most likely ended the career of the head coach of Villanova, Kyle Neptune.

Speaker 1 Which is good. Not his career.
His Villanova career.

Speaker 2 Villanova career.

Speaker 1 But that's good. You wanted that.
Good guy.

Speaker 8 So, who do you want, Max?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't know. The coach of Vandy, JMU, JMU coach who then went to Vandy.
That's probably number one on my big board. Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm seeing a lot of the VCU coach, which Byington?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 8 For the Vandy coach.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You want Spradlin? The coach of Jay Wright.
You want Jay Wright.

Speaker 2 Jay Wright would.

Speaker 2 I miss those days.

Speaker 8 That's a good point.

Speaker 2 I miss those days, and

Speaker 2 I'm sorry for yelling. No.

Speaker 2 My mom. I'm going to get a stern talking to from my mother this morning.
She doesn't like

Speaker 2 when I say sucking dick.

Speaker 1 Can we watch it again? Because I think it was the last pussy.

Speaker 2 We don't have to watch it.

Speaker 1 Let's watch it one more time.

Speaker 1 We don't have to watch it. It was the last pussy that felt like.

Speaker 8 I actually think it was the first one that he said that was the one that's

Speaker 1 the C, yeah.

Speaker 8 Oh. the C one's going to be tough to hear.

Speaker 1 No, I think the last pussy was. No one's meant it more than that moment when he called him a pussy at the end.

Speaker 8 It was a good sign-off.

Speaker 2 Can you also, my mom also does this weird thing of when I do this, she thinks that.

Speaker 8 Max, you follow Campus Cuties?

Speaker 1 I don't follow you. Oh, no, Campus Cuties.
I don't follow you. Oh, no, Max.
Allison Willard.

Speaker 1 This is the for you page.

Speaker 1 It's not based on your algorithm.

Speaker 1 We're going to have to put this in the show again.

Speaker 1 That's campus cuties. For you, Paige.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Gonna have to put that in the show. Max was.
Make sure you subscribe to the YouTube. You just get Max's The Hot Girls He Follows.

Speaker 1 Every single day.

Speaker 1 Max was super upset about this, and

Speaker 1 he was in here, and he was all down. And he's like, I just feel like I shouldn't have said that.
I said, that wasn't for you. That was for all of Villanovas.

Speaker 1 That wasn't your feelings, man. Yes.

Speaker 1 The entire team, the entire fan base. It's not.
That's how everyone felt. They just didn't say that.
Eric catch it on camera. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 8 Max, in fairness, I didn't say a word the entire game.

Speaker 1 I saw you fucking dance, you fucking cockstucker. Shut the fuck up.
Actually, wait for the last pussy.

Speaker 1 You fucking piece of shit, pussy. Go suck some more dick.

Speaker 1 Go ask fucking Danny Hurley the next time he comes on BNT if you can get his fucking shoelace. Huh?

Speaker 1 Pussy. That one.

Speaker 1 That one. Pussy.
I mean, that one.

Speaker 8 Ask Danny Hurley if you can get his fucking shoelaces.

Speaker 8 That's better than get your fucking shine box.

Speaker 1 That was all fair.

Speaker 1 Also, shout out Texas Tech and Clemson. They were in dogfights.
Those are two very good teams that Clemson could, I mean, with Duke Cooper flag being out, Clemson is very live to. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think Clemson plays Louisville next. Yeah, that's going to be a great, great game.
And Texas Tech is playing great ball.

Speaker 8 And we did see, I think the most impressive thing I've ever seen on a basketball court tonight, I think it was halftime of Kentucky. Yes.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Oklahoma and Kentucky.

Speaker 8 They brought dogs out onto the court. I think there were two Australian Shepherds and one small dog.

Speaker 8 And these fucking dogs were jumping rope, but it was also two of the dogs that were swinging the rope.

Speaker 1 Yep. Doing double dutch with a little dog jumping rope.
It was incredible.

Speaker 8 Red Panda hot seat.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Although, Red Panda still, she is the queen.

Speaker 8 She's the queen.

Speaker 1 She's the biggie tournament. Fanta was fanning out for her.
It was a good time.

Speaker 8 She's been doing it for a long time.

Speaker 8 She's been great. One of the all-time goats, but I mean, I'd be nervous about these dogs.

Speaker 1 No, it was an incredible clip.

Speaker 8 We should get these dogs to the Barstool office. I agree.

Speaker 1 I agree. Absolutely agree.

Speaker 1 All right. So, other things.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to, I'm just scrolling to see if we can get it. I got something.
Oh, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 8 Not college basketball related.

Speaker 1 Okay, wait. Let me see if we have any other college basketball.
I think that's it. Hank, did you have a good day of watching college basketball? Oh, does that have anything to do with I Did Well?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it might. Oh, good for you, though.

Speaker 1 Mr. Marshall.

Speaker 1 The faders are

Speaker 1 having a tough day. Yeah, I just got to trust the process.
Hank is doing. Fading me?

Speaker 8 You know what Hank's doing right now? He's doing Father Time is undefeated. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's buying the dip. Yeah.
Yeah, just

Speaker 1 stay invested. Buy the dip.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Fading Big Cat's at a discount right now.

Speaker 1 This happens every year, yeah. The market, this happens every year.

Speaker 1 Don't panic.

Speaker 1 Any thoughts from you?

Speaker 1 I know you're pretty upset about Cooper Flag.

Speaker 1 Cooper Flag.

Speaker 4 No, I mean, seeing Stanford in the ACC tournament was weird.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, Stanford Cow was Wednesday night.
It was bizarre.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That was my big note.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. That's a good big note.

Speaker 8 And seeing, was it Illinois in the ACC tournament against Maryland? Shocking. What?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. In the ACC.

Speaker 8 Maryland's not in the ACC. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Got it. Yeah.
I was confused. Yeah.
But we did have a classic matchup of, yeah, USC versus Purdue.

Speaker 8 Love it. I love it.
Need it.

Speaker 1 Need it. Maybe there's not more two polar opposites of locations.

Speaker 8 No, they speak different languages.

Speaker 1 It's perfect. Oldie, did you want to say something?

Speaker 1 No, I was just saying, like,

Speaker 1 when you said Maryland, I knew. Big Ten.
Yeah. Yeah.
I knew.

Speaker 1 Knuckles on that. Yeah, I knew.
I knew.

Speaker 1 PFT can't trick you. Yeah, I was like, that's Big Ten.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right. And that's where the knuckles went.
Knuckles. Boom.
Boom. Bump and grind.

Speaker 1 What's the other thing you have?

Speaker 8 Other thing I had, I've actually got two. So there's a couple as well, yeah.
They're doing another one of those bracket challenges this year.

Speaker 8 You know how Warren Buffett says, like, I'll give a billion dollars to anyone that can pick a perfect bracket because it's impossible to do? Yep.

Speaker 8 Elon

Speaker 8 is saying that X is launching its X bracket challenge. Okay.
If you get a perfect bracket, you win a trip to Mars.

Speaker 1 Oh, can I get the cash instead?

Speaker 8 They do have a cash prize, $100,000 cash prize.

Speaker 8 If there's no perfect bracket, I think you can also take an alternate $200,000 cash prize if you get a perfect bracket. Kind of cheapen out.
Kind of cheapen it. No one's ever been to Mars yet.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 So,

Speaker 8 although I would nominate Hank to go.

Speaker 1 I don't want to go to Mars. Me neither.

Speaker 8 How far could you hit a golf ball in Mars, though?

Speaker 1 Far. Very far to Earth.
Very, very far.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Then the more important thing that I had also, Hank, this concerns you. Have you seen what's going on at UNC with Belichick?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 So apparently Belichick is telling all the North Carolina officials to copy his girlfriend on any emails that they send him.

Speaker 1 hank are you still there oh yeah oldie go ahead what yeah so

Speaker 8 that's all i got i'm out what his what his 24 year old girlfriend she's apparently very smart uh philosopher right yeah

Speaker 8 she is she is a philosophy major he's asking his bosses to copy her on all the emails that go to him

Speaker 4 maybe he's just trying to stay organized he's a busy guy

Speaker 8 So he's got his girlfriend as his secretary.

Speaker 4 Seems that way.

Speaker 4 Something along those lines. Is she the

Speaker 4 relationships, you're helping each other out?

Speaker 8 Is she a shadow coach at UNC?

Speaker 4 Oh, they get, you know, it's a family. They're trying to build a family program, and this is part of it.

Speaker 8 Are they family?

Speaker 1 No, but, you know, maybe.

Speaker 1 You're trying to instill family into the program.

Speaker 4 It's like Miss Terry.

Speaker 1 Can I say something? And listen. It's no offense to Bill Belchick.

Speaker 1 If they have a kid, that's going to be... They can't.

Speaker 8 That would be so funny. They can't.

Speaker 8 That's so funny.

Speaker 1 They can't, Hank.

Speaker 4 That would be weird.

Speaker 1 They can't.

Speaker 1 They can do whatever they want to do. That would be weird.
They can't. It's like Robert De Niro.
Doesn't Robert De Niro have a kid like every two years? Yeah, that guy fucks.

Speaker 1 He just keeps popping out kids.

Speaker 8 Yeah, so originally he was saying that he wanted her to be copied on everything that related to social media and web content,

Speaker 8 which makes sense. But

Speaker 8 apparently that's expanded a little bit to other emails, including whether to accept interview requests

Speaker 1 from people. So we need to email her.
Yeah. Did we get, did they dox the emails by accident?

Speaker 8 There was one email that got leaked. Let's see.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 8 From Bill Belichick to

Speaker 8 Robbie Evans,

Speaker 8 CC Michael Lombardi.

Speaker 8 Thank you. Robbie, thank you for the email.
I am including Jordan on this email so she can also keep up with her postings. Can you include her on anything that you send to me? Thank you, BB.

Speaker 1 All right, so that's social media.

Speaker 8 Well, that one's social media, media, but it's apparently expanded a little bit.

Speaker 1 So we need to email Jordan asking to have Bill Belichick on the show. Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. Welcome.

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Speaker 1 I had a couple things as well.

Speaker 1 Rory McElroy is the worst.

Speaker 1 I don't really know what's going on. Did you guys see the clip of him taking a fan's phone?

Speaker 8 No, I didn't see that. You didn't?

Speaker 4 That was that bad. Hank!

Speaker 1 That was some.

Speaker 1 Golfers are so soft. So here's what happened, PFT.
Roy McElroy is in the Players' Championship this weekend. On Tuesday, he's playing a practice round.
He hit one into the water.

Speaker 1 The guy said, oh, just like the 11th,

Speaker 1 just like the Masters in 2011. He goes and re-tees,

Speaker 1 hits his second shot. This is a practice round.
Then goes and takes the guy's phone and just starts walking off with it.

Speaker 8 I'm looking at it right now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's soft. Hey.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's soft.

Speaker 1 That's insanely soft.

Speaker 1 Like, what do you, it's a practice round.

Speaker 1 It's true.

Speaker 1 If he can't take that type of heat, I mean, yeah, the guy might be a dick. You could be like, oh, that guy's kind of a dick.
Like, why would you say that? But still,

Speaker 8 that's soft. It looked like he was also typing something on the phone.

Speaker 1 I think he was trying to delete the video.

Speaker 1 But then he's got to then go to the next person who took the video of the video.

Speaker 8 This isn't the Masters. You're allowed to have a phone at Sager.

Speaker 1 And it's also a practice round. Like, I would understand if this was a Sunday, he's competing for, it's the fifth major, competing to win.

Speaker 1 Then it's like, all right, yeah, that's a fucked up thing. It's a practice round.

Speaker 8 So apparently it was a collegiate golfer that did it.

Speaker 1 So what?

Speaker 8 They had. Rory had him removed by tour security.

Speaker 1 This is so soft. I cannot, I, I, I, this is soft, Hank.

Speaker 8 And then the college golfer apologized.

Speaker 1 That's soft. That's soft.

Speaker 1 Written apology. What did

Speaker 1 Rory say about it? Rory. Yeah, he doesn't want to answer questions.

Speaker 1 He doesn't answer questions. Also, soft.

Speaker 4 They asked him, like, do you want to talk about it? He said, no, I don't want to talk about it. And then someone else asked him about it, and he said, I'm happy with my score today.

Speaker 1 Of course, he doesn't want to talk about it. He stole.
He stole, yeah. He robbed a guy.
That guy should press charge.

Speaker 8 Yes, there's no difference between him and Patrick Reed.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can't just go and take the guy's phone. No.
If you did it on the street, what would happen to you? You get shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Punished, punched.
Punched, punished, punched, punished, and punched.

Speaker 1 Or if you want to take it farther, charge. Charge.
You stole my property. Yeah.
Yeah. You can't do that.

Speaker 8 And he's probably got a card on there. He's probably got his digital wallet.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Probably got some nudes.
That's revenge porn. Yeah.
Federal crime. Wow.
Hank, I can't believe you were going to defend him. You're too much of a golfer.
Yeah. You're not the common man.

Speaker 1 You're too much of a golfer. You're closer to a PGA Tour pro than the common man.

Speaker 1 I'm not completely exonerating this guy because, like, yeah, he's a good one.

Speaker 4 I think you see red, though. Like, it was bad, obviously.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Just walk away.

Speaker 4 We should have talked about it after.

Speaker 8 I'm trying to get in the head of Hank right now for why he's being reluctant to criticize Rory for being a prick.

Speaker 8 Do you think that one day you could be a professional golfer? No. And you don't want fans to make fun of you?

Speaker 1 No. But Hank, you know how the internet works.
If this, oh my God, Kentucky's about to blow this game. You hit the over PFT.

Speaker 8 You jinxed it, big cat.

Speaker 8 I think you said Kentucky playing today, Friday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. I just heard yelling.
Oh, something happened.

Speaker 1 Okay, Kentucky's no longer playing today.

Speaker 1 It's going to be Alabama, Oklahoma. What a comeback.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 8 Kentucky might win.

Speaker 1 Kentucky also might win. This might be a double jinx.
I might double-jinx it. Wow.
What a meltdown, Kentucky. That's a game that Cal would have won.
Cal would have won. He would have had a player.

Speaker 1 Cal would have won the winner.

Speaker 8 You know what? Cal would have had the horses.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, I guess we'll see.
People are, I'm going to get so many tweets about Kentucky playing Bama. Yeah.
If this ends up being Oklahoma. All right, back to the back to the Rory thing.

Speaker 1 You know how this works, Hank. If this guy posts the video, the internet has like brains, and the internet would say, hey, dude, that's lame.
Like, he would get shunned.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like when someone will DM a player and the player will respond in an angry tone and they'll post it. And everyone's like, dude, why would you DM a player after a loss?

Speaker 1 like you're the loser here yeah that guy would have been the loser here instead rory flipped it and now he's the loser and it's soft yeah it's definitely soft he was just seeing it was a moment of of seeing red he should have talked about it after and he should have well he shouldn't have done it he shouldn't have done it he that that fan who's been there's fans there all the time at events got in his kitchen and he lost his marbles wait but hey Even now, you're like, yeah, he should have talked about it afterwards.

Speaker 8 And then we said he shouldn't have done it. And you're like, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 8 what is it what's going on hank no there's no no what's going on

Speaker 4 it's not that serious there's he shouldn't have done it but i like when i saw the video i wasn't like shocked i wasn't like how could he have done this i i could understand how he was like pissed off in that moment could you ever see max homa doing this no

Speaker 8 could you ever see brooks doing this no no

Speaker 1 i would have done it you would have done it well if it was

Speaker 1 angry

Speaker 2 but you said seeing red he just kept saying seeing red i was like sometimes you see red You can easily just walk away.

Speaker 1 You walk away. And again, if he posts that, he's the loser.

Speaker 8 You can walk away or you can squeal your tires and drive away out of control. Rory, also very good at doing that.
You can easily do that.

Speaker 1 All right, Kentucky's about to inbound the ball. By the way, they were up 80 to 72 with 119 left.
Holy fuck. Jeremiah Fears just took over.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 Kentucky.

Speaker 8 Oh, wait, this 0.5 seconds.

Speaker 1 Okay, Kentucky Bama. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Kentucky Bama.

Speaker 1 All right, you're right.

Speaker 1 I got to correct my tweet because I said Cal would have lost this game or would have won this game. Now I'm going to have to say California.
Cow would have lost this game.

Speaker 1 That would be fun.

Speaker 8 It's been down a couple weeks for popes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Big time. Do we have a new one?

Speaker 8 No, no, he's recovering.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 8 Yeah, so he got rid of his double pneumonia.

Speaker 8 It's probably not like a permanent solution, but he's better now. Yeah.
I also watched Conclave, so now I feel like I'm an expert on that. Yeah, I know everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know everything.

Speaker 1 What an ending. What a day.
That was incredible. Jeremiah Fears did it all there in the end.
I feel like he scored every bucket.

Speaker 1 And then Kentucky. Good job, Kentucky.
So Kentucky Bama, that's going to be fun. That'll be great.
That over is going to be like 170. Ah, all right.

Speaker 1 The other, the other golf-related thing I had, we had a big respect the biz.

Speaker 1 If you guys, did you guys see this?

Speaker 8 Yep.

Speaker 1 It was, hold on, I got to find it.

Speaker 8 It was.

Speaker 1 Morakawa, right? Morakawa basically said, I don't owe anything to anyone, which is fine. I don't care.
Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, you do owe answers, but like, if that's the, if that's kind of the attitude you want to take, I'm not going to be upset about it.

Speaker 8 When somebody says something like that confidently, that's one of the...

Speaker 8 like most key indicators that they've talked to a therapist at some point. Right.
And he's like, yeah, I realize I don't owe anyone anything. That said,

Speaker 8 you don't want to say that about like fans. You can say it's the media.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. And in the media, in the media,

Speaker 1 we've been very consistent on this. The media complains about it, but

Speaker 1 what they don't realize is they're not looking in the mirror. And when a player says, I don't owe anyone anything or I'm not going to do media, they're literally just giving you a story.

Speaker 1 Yes, you now have a story to write about how Morikawa didn't do the media. So, and it's better than him giving a cliche answer.

Speaker 8 Yeah, when Cam Newton doesn't talk to reporters after a Super Bowl loss, then you just get to write for basically like five years.

Speaker 8 Cam Newton could learn a lot from any athlete about how to interact with the media respectfully.

Speaker 1 But I did like Ian McMillan, who's a senior editor at Sports Illustrated,

Speaker 1 said

Speaker 1 Colin Marikawa said, I don't owe anyone anything. He said, yes, you do.
Professional sports and the money that comes with it relies on the relationship between athletes and media.

Speaker 8 I think it relies on the relationship between athletes and fans. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But the media, he's saying the media. The media.
If they don't talk to the media, then no one's going to watch the game.

Speaker 8 Then nobody knows who you are. Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So the media is the one.
Let's respect the biz here.

Speaker 8 You are the media. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. I also, we have to.

Speaker 8 Also, on Rory, as bad as that was, Rory's round today was very funny because he was just constantly driving the ball into the heart of the woods and then somehow making birdies.

Speaker 8 Because it would, what it would do, it would like force him to lay up on a second shot and not go for a crazy long one and then knock it close.

Speaker 1 So it was a good thing.

Speaker 8 The worse Rory is at driving, at least today, the better he was playing on those holes.

Speaker 1 Maybe he also put a scare into everyone being like, if he will take your phone, he will rob you at any moment.

Speaker 1 We also had a this league between Micah Parsons and Demarcus Lawrence because Demarcus Lawrence is on the Seahawks now.

Speaker 1 And he said on the way out, Dallas is my home, but I know for sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there.

Speaker 1 And then Micah Parsons quote to you and said, This is what rejection and envy look like. This is some clown shit.

Speaker 1 And then DeMarcus Lawrence replied, Calling me a clown won't change the fact that I told the truth. Maybe if you spent less time tweeting and more time winning, I wouldn't have left.

Speaker 8 This league.

Speaker 1 This league. That's some good this league shit.

Speaker 8 I'm going to go out on limb and say that he wasn't a big fan of Micah even when they were on the same team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe not, maybe not the best of friends. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe not the best of friends.

Speaker 8 I have a national sports podcast. Oh, let's go.
I might have gotten got on this. I want to say, I want to preface this by saying I might have gotten got.
I'll back you up.

Speaker 8 But can we fact check this, Oldie, in real time? It's a hockey story. So can we fact-check it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he just got to go to www.google.com. There you go.
That's the one.

Speaker 1 And then what are we going to eat? That's a bad thing.

Speaker 8 All right, so here's the story that I read today.

Speaker 8 The general manager of the Utica Comets

Speaker 8 traded his son. His son is Will McKinnon.
Okay. Will McKinnon for future considerations.

Speaker 1 Trade him to Cleveland. Okay.

Speaker 8 Not even for anything, for future considerations. Okay.
Plot twist. What's a consideration?

Speaker 1 Well, it's like to consider them.

Speaker 8 Like maybe a player to be named later, maybe a bag of hockey sticks.

Speaker 1 Another, another, like Pucks. Yeah.
Yeah. It turns out

Speaker 8 the GM of the comets is his dad.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 8 So his dad traded his son to Cleveland, traded him away for future considerations.

Speaker 1 Good.

Speaker 8 Is this a, would LeBron do something like this?

Speaker 1 Hmm. Is future considerations like a grandkid? He could be.
And I want a grandson.

Speaker 8 Maybe his son has a long-term relationship long distance with a girl in Cleveland.

Speaker 8 Trading him to Cleveland, actually a great dad move.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is weird.

Speaker 8 Also, this could be the mark of an outstanding general manager, though. Yeah.
Somebody who's willing to cutthroat. Yeah, cutthroat.
Just pure analytics.

Speaker 1 The coldest examples of sports is a business. There has to be more to this story, right?

Speaker 1 Like there,

Speaker 1 he had his son probably asked for it.

Speaker 8 Or maybe some of the players on the team were upset that his son was getting preferential treatment.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe that is. Oh, yeah, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 Utica is last of the AHL's North Division in 14th Easter conference. The Comets will not be making the playoffs even a league where 23 of 32 teams qualify for the postseason.

Speaker 1 The Monsters are fourth in the North Division.

Speaker 8 Oh, he's trying to give his son a ring.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's getting his son into the playoffs. I like that.
That's actually a solid dad move.

Speaker 10 Great dad move.

Speaker 1 Great dad move. Huge dad move.
It went like, there's trouble. He's not passing the ketchup over at the dinner table or something like that to, no, I want you to go grab that ring.

Speaker 8 Yeah, go get a championship, son.

Speaker 1 Go get it for us. Get a chance to go.
Call me proud. Make me proud.
Get out of here. Go over to the affiliates, Blue Jackets, Cleveland Monsters.

Speaker 1 Is that the Blue Jackets affiliate?

Speaker 1 How was

Speaker 1 the game out at the shoe? Oh, fire.

Speaker 8 It was so good.

Speaker 1 The battle back before both teams, right to the third period, and then CBJ just took over and 5-3 finished. Love it.
winner. Oh yeah.

Speaker 8 What do you think about Tortz?

Speaker 1 Oh

Speaker 1 who?

Speaker 8 Tortz.

Speaker 1 Tortorella. Tortorella?

Speaker 1 He's not there.

Speaker 8 Oh, he's not?

Speaker 1 No. But what do you think about him? That's not what he was asking.

Speaker 1 Don't try to embarrass PFT.

Speaker 8 Wait, where's Tortz right now?

Speaker 1 Torty's flyers. Don't try to embarrass me.
I think. Is he flyers? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oldie, don't embarrass PFT. No, no, I'm going to ask.

Speaker 1 I'll just ask, what do you think about him? I'm not embarrassed.

Speaker 8 I'm consistent. I am not a die-hard hockey fan.
I'm a Capitals fan.

Speaker 1 You are. He's right.

Speaker 1 But it does stand to, if you look at the transcript, you just asked, what do you think about Tortz?

Speaker 8 Yeah, what do you think about Tortz?

Speaker 1 He's a hothead. I like that about him, though.
He's not scared to tell people what's up.

Speaker 1 Sometimes things are crazy, but I mean...

Speaker 8 You didn't let me feel. I was going to say, what did you think about Tortz? Do you wish he was still there?

Speaker 1 And how's he doing as his job in Philadelphia? He still gives it to the guys, too. Yeah, he does.
Yeah, yeah. He's not afraid to tell them what's up, dude.
Yeah. Who's going to win the cup?

Speaker 1 I said my blue jackets from before. I got to ride on that.
So you're just sticking with that? Yeah, I'm going to have to, I think.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's obviously a lot of good teams, but we got to ride with CBJ

Speaker 1 boys. Is Nasher part of the

Speaker 1 program, right? Yeah, yeah, he's. Okay, so

Speaker 1 you got to ride with him hard.

Speaker 8 Hard. Max, one more question for you here.
Paul George being evaluated for multiple injuries.

Speaker 8 You think this is it for him?

Speaker 2 Yeah, there was also a report that they were looking to trade him in the offseason.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Max is struggling with the idea of tanking.
He said that he can't watch the games. I can't.
But he can watch on the.

Speaker 8 You know what? Because it's a sad tank.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, it's a very...

Speaker 2 Well, but it's also the most necessary tank ever.

Speaker 1 But you should be happy because the Bulls are going to make the 10th seed. They basically have sealed it up.

Speaker 1 It's insane that they're going to still be in this fucking play-in game when they're so bad and they traded away Zach Levine and they're still going to...

Speaker 1 It's so stupid.

Speaker 2 stupid but the difference is we we don't need a lottery pick we need to be top six yeah we're at the sixth spot and the Raptors the Sixers and the Nets are all within a half game and if we get the sevens the seven pick the thunder get our pick wait but that's after the lottery correct after the lottery so but like the odds yeah yeah like you real realistically we're trying to get to five right because if you get to five then one team can still jump you right and we'll still get our first-round pick.

Speaker 2 But we're a half a game back.

Speaker 1 It's like

Speaker 2 you have to lose.

Speaker 1 You have to lose.

Speaker 8 Here's a compliment, though. This is a very, very fast tank.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Most teams, it takes some, you had championship, maybe not championship, maybe just deep playoff aspirations at the start of the year.

Speaker 8 And to recognize halfway through that year, fuck it, let's just be really bad. It usually takes teams a year or two to get to that spot.
You accepted being a loser way faster than most teams do.

Speaker 2 But then this summer

Speaker 2 champion.

Speaker 8 You think so? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 They're going to be cheaper boss. They're going to try and be championship.

Speaker 8 It's a one-year tank.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 2 Unless MB's

Speaker 1 dead.

Speaker 2 Not dead, but knee is dead.

Speaker 8 He's dead.

Speaker 8 R.I.P. knee.

Speaker 1 He's already R.I.P.

Speaker 2 Championship. No, if that is the case,

Speaker 1 if that is the case. If that is the case.

Speaker 1 The last thing I had was Virginia Tech, who lost on tuesday which feels like 10 years ago uh we had one of the best quotes uh from a player ever virginia tech's uh

Speaker 1 toby lal

Speaker 1 uh on virginia tech exceeding expectations

Speaker 1 because they were 13 and 19 and they were bounced in the first round of the acc tournament he said they thought we were going to be ass

Speaker 1 I mean, we were still ass, but you know, we weren't that bad.

Speaker 8 Yeah, not a big ass.

Speaker 1 It's pretty good. We weren't perspective.

Speaker 8 We weren't as ass as people thought that we were.

Speaker 1 We thought we were going to be ass, and we were, but we weren't as bad. Yeah.
Suck it, haters. Yeah, have that, haters.

Speaker 8 Who does Duke play?

Speaker 1 Duke plays UNC.

Speaker 8 UNC has the opportunity to do a very funny thing.

Speaker 1 Which is?

Speaker 8 Just beat Duke. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would be funny. Yeah.
Yeah. We have some awesome games tomorrow.
Oldie, you ready to just strap it in and do it again? I am so stoked. I'm so stoked.

Speaker 1 I don't even think I'm going to go back to the hotel tonight. I'm at.

Speaker 8 I just stay here. Just buzz.
Just buzz around the office.

Speaker 1 Buzz around here, no?

Speaker 1 Buzz beyond the down and just back up at it again in the morning.

Speaker 8 No, it's basically like getting trapped in a Chuck E. Cheese.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can't leave. I can't leave.
I just keep getting tokens and tokens and tokens. The coins don't stop.
It doesn't matter. Like, you want this token? Sure.
You want that? Okay, go to that game.

Speaker 1 You're done with this game. Go to the next game.
Oh, you want some food? Oh, sure, no problem. Oh, you want this? No, I don't want it.
Okay, get rid of it. Send it out.
Peace. See you later.

Speaker 1 On to the next. I'll crush that.
No problem.

Speaker 1 You do seem like you're a little thirsty. Do you have a body armor flash IV with you? No, I don't, but

Speaker 1 I'm starting to decline, I think. Yeah.
We need to get you one more

Speaker 1 view.

Speaker 1 That's why I got to get home somehow, I guess.

Speaker 8 You had a pretty light day today, huh?

Speaker 8 In terms of flash IVs?

Speaker 1 He did one on the act and one on the live stream.

Speaker 8 So it's only two today.

Speaker 1 They weren't feeding me. I don't know.
Is something going on with body armor?

Speaker 1 No, no, no. No, they loved it.
By the way, I heard back from them. They loved it.
They loved every second of it. You know what I got, too? I forgot to set.

Speaker 1 I should have sent that to to the boys out, or like the Twitter or the X thing or whatever, or Insta. Yeah, everyone, by the way, Oldie is on socials now.
What are your social handles?

Speaker 1 Canadian Oldie on Instagram and

Speaker 1 Canadian Oldie. I believe the X is Canadian underscore Oldie.
Okay. I should try to readjust that so it's on the same page line.
Yeah, so it's the same. So the same page.

Speaker 1 Anyways, I was driving and I seen a 53-foot trailer, body armor. It was not Flash Body Armor IV.
Get it in you. It was the original stuff.

Speaker 1 It's been out probably from here like seven years ago yeah and it's new to canada it says now in canada oh hell yes yeah i got a photo of it love it oh i guess i'll sell the boys tomorrow yeah today that's cool do you how many pictures a day do you take

Speaker 1 uh just if i see some good stuff yeah some good out there yeah it depends right yeah we had a good video stream today i got a i got a good video of uh wriggley right yeah oh wriggley yeah yeah yeah it was awesome yeah you were going putting in your bretts at draft kings yeah Oh, that was cool.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of great TVs in there. Yeah.
It's endless.

Speaker 1 There are a lot of great TVs in there. It's endless in there.
You look and you're like, this doesn't stop.

Speaker 1 It should do a 360, but 270 is pretty good anyways. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Oldie, is there anything that you want to try or see while you're in Chicago?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we kind of are bringing you here and just trapping you inside.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Is there anything like any

Speaker 8 food that you want to try? Any landmark you want to see?

Speaker 1 The bean, but that's just like cool reflection. Like everyone.
You could see the river on Saturday dying green. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I'm excited for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got a couple things that I can wear something down there. How far we'll just hop, skip, and a boot down there.
Yeah. Get over there? Yeah.
Not walking distance. No, probably not.
No, no.

Speaker 1 Some people say they. Yeah, you could.
Not a bike. No, I get one of those e-scooters or something like that.
But people jump in the river after they dye it. No, you show you that.
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 No, no, I wouldn't do that. Yeah, yeah.
I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 8 My favorite thing is they say that it's healthy for the environment. When you dye the river neon green, I'm going to guess that it's probably not.

Speaker 1 It looks like it's got to be a band, color band, or something. I'm going to call it 20-second time out real quick.
Were you going to jump in the river?

Speaker 1 No, I didn't think about that.

Speaker 1 A couple of the boys were talking about it. I feel like you were going to jump in the river.

Speaker 8 He clearly just said he wasn't even thinking about it.

Speaker 1 The boys mentioned it earlier, and it kind of crossed my mind. I tried to come across thinking.
Don't jump in the river. Don't do it, right? Don't do it.
Yeah, yeah. Don't do it.
Life jacket?

Speaker 1 No, don't do it. Don't jump in the river.
We won't do it. We'll just go down and admire the view.
So they put a lot of dye in it because it just goes shabboom, shaboom, green, just like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's flows. And that's the Chicago River, right? Yeah, yeah.
All right. I'm getting better at this place.
Yeah. And Dan Ryan Expressway.
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 I've traveled that back about 20 years ago when I came to White Sox versus Red Sox game. Oh.
After I left the RCA dome for an exhibition game against the Colts versus the Ravens. Jeff Saturday.

Speaker 1 Me and my boy Dan.

Speaker 1 It was funny enough. We were on the highway.
He was driving

Speaker 1 on the Dan Ryan Expressway. He's Dan.
I'm Ryan. Oh, Ryan.
Oh. So we're like freaking out.
We're driving from Indianapolis or Indiana from the game. I was yelling at Jeff Saturday.

Speaker 1 Saturday, Saturday, freaking. And we got scalper tickets for like eight banger bucks this preseason.
So you were up in the top? RCA dome. Yeah, we could touch the little domer.

Speaker 1 And you were yelling Saturday? No, we worked our way magic all the way how I do. All the way to the bottom barrel, right in front of the back of the Colts band.
Saturday, Saturday.

Speaker 1 The lady's lady's like, yeah, okay, okay. You guys used to give me like, take it easy, take it easy.
And all of a sudden, he's like, you want to come down and see him after? I said, yeah.

Speaker 1 She had tickets. A little scan pass.
We got to see the players after. Gonzalez was there.

Speaker 1 Just because you were yelling at Jeff Saturday? Yeah, yeah. So we got to go down and see all the players after.

Speaker 1 What's the link to Jeff Saturday? I don't know. He was a center.
I was just fired up. My buddy's a Colts fan.
That's why we came down. He said, you just love him.
You want to go down?

Speaker 1 I said, absolutely, Dan. Why wouldn't we go down at the game?

Speaker 1 But Peyton Manning, though?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, he wasn't paying attention to the voice family anywhere like Saturday. It's a beauty center.
So we got to go down, hang out with the players. We walked out of the dome.

Speaker 1 Everyone's asking, oh, I know an autograph, autograph. My kid's sick.

Speaker 1 We got to go off. I'm not signing autographs, right? Where the players were.
Anyways, went back to the hotel, crashed out, a couple soda pops, obviously, and woke up. Like, what are we going to do?

Speaker 1 Chicago. Oh, let's go to a baseball game.
White Socks, Red Sox. We're flying the Dan Ryan Expressway.
There's a big flood happening on the road. We get here.

Speaker 1 We go into this thing, scalp tickets boom we go up we think we're late dude it's it's it's 115 we're late dude 215 we're late time change boom

Speaker 1 got us it yeah got us yeah wow great experience though so you guys are just freaking out being on the dan ryan oh yeah i'm like dude this is us this is us then we had combos eh we had combos and the car love that great snack combos so my buddy my buddy used to dart my buddies to dart back in the day right he used to dart so he's got a little asshole little holder in there We're cruising home.

Speaker 1 We're back in now, Ontario. We're cruising.
I look down on the ground. Oh, sweet.
Combo. Grabbed the combo.
A little bit soft.

Speaker 1 I think the cigarette thing fell and the ground was a little bit wet, a little bit soggy, but good combo, though.

Speaker 1 It was like the cheese one or the pizza one. It wasn't the Buffalo hot one.
It was like the cheese or pizza.

Speaker 8 Was it cracker or pretzel?

Speaker 1 No, it was the little balls, the combos. You never

Speaker 1 stuffed in.

Speaker 8 Some are crackers, some are pretzel on the outside. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The pretzel. I think it was the cheese or the pretzel one.
Yeah. The pretzel one.
Solid. But it was soft, but yeah, I know.
That's a great story. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Oh, Ryan Expressway.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my boy Dan. What up?

Speaker 1 He's a beauty. He's a beauty out in Texas now.
Have people recognized you since you came a few weeks ago?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
When I left, the guy in the plane sat beside me. You, Oldie? Walking in today.

Speaker 1 Oldie, what's up? What's up, buddy? Got to go. At the game, stadium game, doing interviews with people.
People are like, I got to get a photo. I'm like, okay, buddy, I'm trying to to do an interview.

Speaker 1 So get a photo, got to go on to the next guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's been wild. So it's been fun.
It's been great. I got to shout out to you guys, too.
I also got to give big love to my boy Yanzi. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yanzi is the best. He's the best.
But he backed his words up, though. Yeah.
But I'm coming in for the boys. He nailed it.
Paul Bean said, I got a guy for you. And I was just like, okay.

Speaker 1 He's like, you got to just do it. Like, all right.

Speaker 1 Just do it. And you guys, like, all my boys, all buttes.
Yeah. Like, I don't even want to leave.
Like, people are asking me, oldie, so how long are you in? How long are you in?

Speaker 1 I'm looking at him like, well, if they kick me out, I'll be gone tonight. If they don't want me here, I'll leave tonight.
But if you want me here, I'm here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He already tried to move his flight.

Speaker 8 When's your flight back?

Speaker 1 Sunday. But I was like, for now, so you might have to stay till Monday.
And he's like, but if I stay till Monday, shouldn't I just stay for the whole next weekend?

Speaker 1 Oldie, right? I think the only way to get... Oldie, you've never had a bracket day, have you?

Speaker 8 You might have to stay for it. We got to bust your bracket.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Never did that? Yeah.

Speaker 8 You got to watch the bracket with us.

Speaker 1 Like, I could do a bracket here, and then, oh, yeah, how's the bracket looking? Oh, cool.

Speaker 1 I'm back in Canada watching my bracket on a TV, on one TV, when I could be watching seven TVs, eight on the back burner in the corner beside us. Yeah, big time.
Absolutely. Cheering on my team.

Speaker 1 Big time. All right, Oldie, send us into Bill Raftery with a little.
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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is: Bill Raftery.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. He is a legend of the game, one of our all-time favorites.
It is Bill Raftery. You're going to hear him.

Speaker 1 He is March. We're going to hear him all March.

Speaker 1 Bill Raft, can I call you Raft?

Speaker 13 Sure.

Speaker 1 All right, so Raft, thank you for joining us. It's awesome to talk to you.

Speaker 1 We're getting into the best time of year.

Speaker 1 What's it feel like in the raftery house when we get to March and you're like, all right, here we go.

Speaker 1 This is it.

Speaker 13 It's pretty much the same as the rest of the year. I get ignored.

Speaker 13 At five o'clock, my wife says, do you want to eat here or go out?

Speaker 13 And I always say, well, let's eat here. And she says, well, if we eat here, we have to go out and get some food.
So we end up going out. So nothing's really changed, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 13 For me, it has, though. I mean, it's life goes on a little bit for everybody else, but

Speaker 13 pretty much like today was consumed with Zooms. We did a media day.

Speaker 13 Yesterday it was internal stuff. So the last two days were more catch up on stuff they want to do and marketing, media, things they've been working on kind of a deal, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Other than that, it's look at tape.

Speaker 13 The unknown this week is I've got big East games tomorrow night. And that's,

Speaker 13 you know, whoever wins tonight plays the winner tomorrow, that kind of a deal. Yeah.

Speaker 13 And then Thursday leave for Indiana. And we've got

Speaker 13 Big Ten on Saturday and semi-Saturday and final Sunday. And then Sunday night, after the teams find out, we find out where we're going.

Speaker 13 So it's pretty much

Speaker 13 the same kind of a deal as every year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 And I imagine that you get to know these teams pretty well especially the ones that you cover in the the conference tournament but i also read that you still do a ton of prep going into each game you've got like binders and binders filled with notes do you still do that

Speaker 13 uh i i think everybody has their own deal you know it's just like you guys you know you learn how to tee it up and what works for you and what's expedient uh

Speaker 13 I guess the nice thing is with all the travel, even though you're not doing their games, you sort of catch up with other teams, you know, whether it's Auburn or like we haven't had Duke this year at all, but certainly they catch your eye.

Speaker 13 You want to see how good they are,

Speaker 13 that type of thing. So it's,

Speaker 13 you're more into the games you're going to be doing because they're immediate. And then you surface order the rest of them and start to catch up.

Speaker 13 Like next week, we'll have eight teams to prep for starting Monday morning.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 13 And probably of the eight, I would guess I'll have had four of them. And the other four you start on right away on Monday morning, you know.

Speaker 1 I love it. So, I mean, you've been doing this for so long.
And, like I said, you are like one of those announcers that it just feels right when it's March and I'm hearing you on the call.

Speaker 1 I have a question about your career and your famous onions call. I want to get into all your calls, but do you remember your first onions? Do you remember the first time you did it and

Speaker 1 how it came to you?

Speaker 13 I work with a guy that's a genius and a pain in the neck,

Speaker 13 by the name of Iron Eagle.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 13 the bird remembers everything. He'd be a terrible partner, you know, to be married to because he doesn't forget anything.
He never gets over the past.

Speaker 13 And he claims we were doing an Orlando net game, and it was one of those bad net years.

Speaker 13 You know, like a 15, 18, and 35 deal.

Speaker 13 And Kevin Edwards made a jumper against the magic. and i for the first time said onions

Speaker 13 and he looked at me like like what where did that come from and basically that i never even thought of it said it but it was uh it was appropriate you know uh for the moment and and the interesting thing about it um

Speaker 13 I used it a couple more times and ESPN said to me, we don't want you to use that.

Speaker 13 So I stopped using it,

Speaker 13 knowing that they were sending the checks, obviously. Right.
And then some writers started using it in their articles. And I got a call from ESBN.
They said, you know what, you can use that again.

Speaker 13 So that's how that whole thing started. Yeah.
It's amazing, the transformation.

Speaker 13 It's a nice way of saying something

Speaker 13 that captures the moment.

Speaker 13 when these kids just do uncanny things at so many important moments.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and

Speaker 1 it is a great call that like, some of the most iconic moments, you can hear onions in your head. Do you have a bar for double order? Like, do you have a, do you have an internal,

Speaker 1 all right, not, you know, can't do it too early, can't do it too early in the game. It's got to be later in the game.
It's got to be what you're making. Yeah, is there like a feel?

Speaker 13 I think the first, like the, once in a while, I'll say early onions, but it's pretty much like

Speaker 13 a big three late in the game that, you know, you could tell sealed the deal.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 13 but i i think the the one that people have gotten the the biggest kick out of is uh ronald moore at sienna uh where he made the the three against ohio state uh to go to overtime so that was just a you know plain old onion

Speaker 13 and then he made uh he made the three to win in overtime and that became the double order yeah

Speaker 1 onions double order

Speaker 8 i love it it is great i watched a three-minute long video that was just

Speaker 8 a supercut of you saying onions after big shots. I just listened to you say the word for three minutes.
It was probably the best three minutes of my month. It was fantastic.

Speaker 1 Boy,

Speaker 13 you better get a life.

Speaker 1 It's the best. That's good.

Speaker 8 ASMR for guys. It's fantastic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it does. It just goes in your sports brain.
You just have these things that just rattle around. And we had Mike Breen on last year and, you know, talking about

Speaker 1 the beginning of yelling bang and double bangs. And like, they're just as sports fans, this is how we consume the games.
And when I think Onions, it's like, oh, it must be March. Must be a big shot.

Speaker 1 And Raph's on the call.

Speaker 13 That's nice to see you. Of course, Mike's one of those special guys.
I remember doing a game with him back when he was doing Maris basketball. Can you believe it?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 13 That's not far back. So

Speaker 13 what a career he's had, as you well know. Just a class act too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
He is. He is.

Speaker 8 Do you you have a favorite call that you've ever made

Speaker 13 uh

Speaker 13 the favorite call is when they put the lights on about two in the morning get one more

Speaker 13 last call and they double order you you know yeah i mean it might hey day that's pretty good you know but uh not really

Speaker 13 i i'm more of a reactionary or spur of the moment

Speaker 13 you know, whatever fits. And I always say, I didn't go to Harvard, so, you know, who knows what's going to come out of there, you know?

Speaker 1 What about a favorite player or a player that you can look back and like, I just loved calling his games because the way the style of play or the moments that he stepped up to.

Speaker 13 You know, I'm joking in the NBA, Jason Kidd.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 13 I always said that. What he did in the Meadowlands, if that was the garden, they have a statue in front of MSG for him.

Speaker 13 You know, every night he did astounding things.

Speaker 13 He just, you know, just incredible feel for the game.

Speaker 13 You know, over the years,

Speaker 13 you know, doing the Nets. And then CBS had the NBA years ago, as you guys well know.

Speaker 13 So you got to do a lot of NBA games and what they could do on a consistent basis, you know, just, you know, Magic.

Speaker 13 you know, Larry Bird,

Speaker 13 just

Speaker 13 tremendous, tremendous talents, you know, Julius in the early days, the 80s. I mean, it was,

Speaker 13 so nobody's special, but just so many great players and so many great moments. And,

Speaker 13 you know, college, they lived for a lifetime for these kids. They love them.
They're great college players. They don't get a chance to expose or shine on that next level.

Speaker 13 So it's fun to see them have their moment in the sun.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8 You referenced last call, and the legends about you are fantastic. You, you like to go out.
You like to have a good time.

Speaker 8 I think Jay Billis said that working with you is like going on a three-day bender. That might just be more Jay Billis not being able to

Speaker 1 drink at all.

Speaker 13 I told this story recently. We were in Milwaukee, and

Speaker 13 it was the football championship Monday, college.

Speaker 13 And we had a Monday, big Monday, and Danny Gabbitt, who runs the NCA basically now basketball tournament, and Dave's son, who's just a super guy too. But he and I got to the table late.

Speaker 13 So we had like six or eight of us, and Jay was in the throes of needing glasses, but not using them. So when I walked into Mo's restaurant, the owner was a good, the Vasala brothers, great guys.

Speaker 13 I gave the one boy, Jamie, my credit card. And so we sat down and

Speaker 13 we watched the ball game.

Speaker 13 Jay ordered the wine

Speaker 13 and

Speaker 13 the check came. Then I went behind to look at it.
And he claims I almost had a heart attack because he added zeros and numbers in front of the zeros. He thought what was 150 was 450.

Speaker 13 Like, anyhow, it sort of destroyed my evening somewhat. But other than that setback, we had a lot of fun nights with McDonough and he over the years.

Speaker 13 But you know, Jay's, Jay's a good friend, a great spokesman, really, for the game that, you know, you don't have to agree with him and you don't argue with him because he's too smart to argue with.

Speaker 13 But he just has a great feel for what he thinks should be the right thing in the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 It seems like you're a lot of fun to hang out with. I've read all the stories about you.
You know every restaurant owner. You know all the best places to go out late at night.

Speaker 8 You know great Italian restaurants, the whole nine yards. Do you have a secret to waking up in the morning and maybe having 11 o'clock tea?

Speaker 13 I guess it's called responsibility. You know, if you want to play at night, you got to manage the morning.
You know, you got something else to do. But I always say I've lost my game a little,

Speaker 13 but it's still ahead of a lot of people, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you still hitting last call? Are you still making it all the way to last call?

Speaker 13 Not quite.

Speaker 1 Not quite.

Speaker 13 uh not that i've become more responsible i guess it's just that uh maybe lacking a little more stamina or uh just uh you know worried about the next event or getting to the next event but uh no i've been really lucky with uh

Speaker 1 uh gene good genes let's put it that way you know yeah we saw the story went viral last week of uh of i and eagle saying that you once uh came out of a bar after last call with eight beers in your trench coat for everyone.

Speaker 1 Can you confirm that? I hope it was more like you know, he got it wrong. It was a dozen beers.

Speaker 13 It wasn't a it wasn't eight, but there was a couple, you know.

Speaker 13 I can remember one night, uh, I think it was the San Antonio, San Antonio Net

Speaker 13 Championship Series. Unfortunately, I think it was for zip, as it was with the Lakers, too.
But

Speaker 13 Jay Wright came up and we went into the,

Speaker 13 they had a little after hour not after after game place at the meadowlands and they closed quickly you know a lot of those guys are you know other jobs and have to get up early so anyhow everybody was uh really upset reluctant to leave and i had the guy go outside and put a about eight beers behind a bush right by the door

Speaker 13 So anyhow, we went outside and they said, well, good night. I said, well, we got a little nightcap.
And I said, the guy threw us out. I said, Jake over to the bush and grab a couple of beers.

Speaker 1 That's fantastic. Yeah, and I mean,

Speaker 1 I read a profile about you that you know, you would, your moves sometimes would be just go to a bar and then you'd have you'd buy, you know, 20 beers, have them out on the table.

Speaker 1 If someone came and said hello to you, they have to have a beer with you. That's, I mean, that's a legendary.

Speaker 13 I don't know about that.

Speaker 13 Usually, they were part of the group, I think, more than anything, you know? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 It's uh,

Speaker 13 it makes for good fodder, basically, but you know, you try and always be under control.

Speaker 13 But it's good company. The one guy that's incredible,

Speaker 13 you know, over the years, a lot of places close in all these towns. Whenever I go to any city and I don't know where to go, I call PJ Carlissimo.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 13 And PJ knows the owner. He knows the Maitre D.

Speaker 13 He knows the hostess. He knows everybody.

Speaker 13 And so he's a great source. If you guys are traveling, give PJ a call.

Speaker 13 It's utterly incredible. But between the NBA and his college career, he's been all over.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 How many restaurants do you think you have a picture of you up in?

Speaker 13 Not as many as Sinatra. I know that.

Speaker 1 But you're up there, I feel like. I know I've seen a few of them.

Speaker 8 I know I'm about to have a great meal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If Raff's been here, then it's going to be good.

Speaker 13 Yeah, a lot of places have changed over the years, though. You know, it's,

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Speaker 1 If you had to pick one of your, maybe do your top three, it could be any city,

Speaker 1 top three places that you go to when you're on the road.

Speaker 13 Well, you know, for years it was PJ Clark's in New York. If you were in the city,

Speaker 13 they were always great to us. Post-game, you know, stay open.
And it's still good, obviously.

Speaker 13 Moe's would be

Speaker 13 Toscano and Brentwood.

Speaker 13 What's the other one I like there? Paponis,

Speaker 13 right by UCLA is a good one.

Speaker 13 Mostly Italian, you know, the Ivy and Santa Monica. I'm being West Coast a little because two of our kids are there and we've been going there a lot more lately.

Speaker 13 But pretty much you get direction from the coach or,

Speaker 13 you know, somebody in the athletic department recommends a place and you end up enjoying it on a consistent basis.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good for team building.

Speaker 8 Good for hanging out with the boys. Yeah.

Speaker 13 La Perla down in Washington, I like a lot.

Speaker 13 It's not a pubby. It's a, you know, fine dining place, but that's one too we go to when we're in town there.
And Ebbett's uh, Ebbett's Grill is another one.

Speaker 13 I don't know if you guys know that one, that's a good one, too.

Speaker 8 Yeah, you got any places in Chicago? That's where we're at right now.

Speaker 1 Chicago.

Speaker 13 Uh, I just told this story recently. Years ago,

Speaker 13 uh, we were at Harry Carey's,

Speaker 13 right? And it was closing time. We had all the Nets, radio, and TV.
So we have about eight guys: we're producer, director, et cetera. And it's Harry Carey behind the bar with Ernie Banks.

Speaker 1 There's no, It's closing time.

Speaker 13 There's nobody there. And I said, Harry, would you sing Take Me Out to the Ball Game?

Speaker 13 And he looked at Ernie Banks, and the two of them sang it. That was like one of the highlights for me of a lifetime.
That those two famous and delightful guys singing that song was pretty good.

Speaker 1 That's incredible. That's a great.

Speaker 8 Yeah. I mean, I wish I could have gotten to hang out with Harry Carey.

Speaker 13 Gibson's is another one when we went there consistently that we like to go to.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's another great one.

Speaker 8 Good picks, yeah.

Speaker 1 This is going to be weird for me to ask you, do you have anywhere in the country that has Bill Raftery Day? Have you been, have you, is there any towns or anything that have like Bill Raftery Day?

Speaker 13 I don't even have a Bill Raftery Day in my own house.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. That's fair.
That's fair.

Speaker 1 Are you okay? Because I found an old tweet of mine. It was from April 3rd, 2021.
I said, we don't appreciate Raftery enough. Someone sent a calendar reminder for August 17th to respect Raftery more.

Speaker 1 So are you okay if, as a podcast, our show, if we make August 17th the official Bill Raftery Day on part of my take? Are you okay with that?

Speaker 13 Is there any financial commitment on my part on this or no?

Speaker 1 Wait, do you have to pay us?

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 1 No, you don't have to pay us. Yeah, we're going to need a float.
We're going to need a whole meal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you will have to pay a little bit. But yeah, are you okay with us making it? Maybe you'll come back on the show August 17th, Bill Raftery Day.

Speaker 13 That's a deal. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. So that's official.
Pardon me. I don't think we've ever had

Speaker 1 a holiday on this show.

Speaker 8 I don't think that we have either. But yeah, we'll have maybe a couple glasses of wine.
Yeah. Tell some stories.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 See, maybe go, maybe get, maybe we'll get a metal detector, see how many beers we can get through a metal detector.

Speaker 1 That would be fun. That would be very fun.

Speaker 8 Yeah. So I want to ask just a little bit about your past because from my understanding, you got started on ESPN when ESPN was not

Speaker 8 nearly what it is right now. It was kind of a smaller network, and you took a chance by going there.

Speaker 8 What was that like deciding that you wanted to get into media into broadcasting as opposed to coaching?

Speaker 13 We had started the Big East for two years, and I had said to Dave Gavitt, who was doing the color analysis,

Speaker 13 and as a commissioner, too, I said, you know, Dave, someday I might like to do that, never thinking I'm going to leave.

Speaker 13 And I thought I was going to be John Wooden, but I guess, you know, if you look up my record, I didn't quite achieve that. But

Speaker 13 I guess I want to say October 28th of 81, we're in practice two weeks, and Dave called, and

Speaker 13 I made this up, but it's pretty typical of what may have happened.

Speaker 13 Dave called, he said, Look, I've watched you coach. I think you should try television.

Speaker 13 I had two days to decide. I met with the team and I left for nine games, $800 a game with four children.

Speaker 13 So it was $7,200 and it just went from there. ESBN was great.
They gave me 25 games.

Speaker 13 NBC gave me three or four games at a little larger number. And I went with a bank for almost 20 years, believe it or not.
I didn't hold the bank up, but they let me go any place I wanted to.

Speaker 13 We were basically the bank of the Giants, the Jets, the Meadowlands. The casinos were big then in Atlantic City.
So we were involved there with the roadways, the highway authorities, all that stuff.

Speaker 13 So we were basically salesmen. And that gave me the opportunity.
The next year, I started with the Nets full-time. I started with CBS for the first time in 82, 83.

Speaker 13 And, you know, that was sort of the way, you know, I did that for some 20 odd years with the Nets.

Speaker 13 ESPN until 213, I left to go when Fox started their FS1 Big East coverage. So I've been really lucky.
I mean, you know, not only,

Speaker 13 you know, career-wise, but just amazing people, most of them considerably younger. And I think that's the big thing too.
You know, you guys are young. Young people have juice.

Speaker 13 And I think it just is invigorating for a lot of people. I mean,

Speaker 13 we get together pre-game, you know, the night before.

Speaker 13 These kids are all smart. They love what they're doing.

Speaker 13 You know, they're great team players. So I think all that sort of carries you and keeps you going.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I think a lot of guys, when they work in broadcasting, as they get older, A lot of guys kind of form, I don't know if it's they're upset with the changes that happen to the game, with the way that things are set up or or what it is but they develop kind of like a bitterness to it you seem to enjoy watching college basketball more than you ever have would you say that's probably because you're around younger people or is that just

Speaker 13 i i i think that's a lot to do with it and also i i don't get hung up they make the rules so why bitch about them yeah

Speaker 13 the game starts uh you may not like a jump ball uh you know a change of possession arrow you may not like that. But you know what? People at home could care less.

Speaker 13 I mean, they want to, and the other thing, too,

Speaker 13 you know, the referees, everybody has their angst over them.

Speaker 13 And I think you have to say things at times, but basically, sitting at home, you don't want to hear about every call lamenting this or that. But key calls, yes, I understand that part of it.
But

Speaker 13 I just think the whole, you know,

Speaker 13 you come into a town and the thing is so important for two teams two communities and we as a group of tv or radio have to match that i think that's that's sort of the key like that thing is as important to you as it is to both those universities and those kids Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 It's true. You make sports fun.
And I think that when we tune in, we want to be, it's entertainment at the end of the day. That's a lot of what our show is.

Speaker 1 It's like, you you know, we know that we can't take ourselves too seriously. Sports are supposed to be fun, and you do a great job of making it fun.

Speaker 13 That's nice of you. I just feel very fortunate, really.

Speaker 13 It's been a nice little ride, as they say.

Speaker 13 I think it keeps you young, keeps you invigorated. And,

Speaker 13 you know, the challenge of staying on top of it is

Speaker 13 not much of a challenge, really. I shouldn't even use that word.
But,

Speaker 13 you know, the biggest challenge is getting there, I always say. And you have to be ready when you get there.
And the coaches button it up, or the pregame practices button it up for you.

Speaker 8 Yeah, one of the things that you do that I love the most is you let the viewers know right off the bat if they're playing man-to-man.

Speaker 8 Right off the bat, there's no question about it. Have you ever screwed up a man-to-man call where you say man-to-man and then

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 am I playing a two-three zone?

Speaker 13 That actually started, and I had no idea I was doing it. It was to get out of the play-by-playman's way.

Speaker 13 And, you know, so I would do it quickly, never thinking I was connecting, you know, the three words.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 13 And over the years, I'd be like, I remember being at Newark Airport, and this guy is like a couple of feet away, and I hear him go, bit of it. And I'm going, geez, what a nitwit this guy is.

Speaker 13 And he says it a couple of times.

Speaker 13 I had no idea I was putting the three words together but it was more to get out of the play by play guy then he identifies who you know who's who and and whatever so i think everything starts for

Speaker 13 um

Speaker 13 you know just maybe you form a habit but it just starts because it's convenient or it fits or you want to be as succinct as possible.

Speaker 1 I do love whenever they come out and zone and you give them the 2-3 zone with man-to-man principles. Yeah, that was Bayheim.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had to throw him off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't steal that from me.

Speaker 13 Yeah, that was

Speaker 13 Jimmy. Unbelievable when you think of it.
And what he did, too, for a career.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 13 I love to tease him.

Speaker 13 But he's amazing. It just is relaxed way.
They just showed up and played and beat people, and he kept getting great players. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What coach throughout the years have you become closest with? Or is like, you know, they're genuinely a friend now?

Speaker 13 You know, I would say a lot of guys you know really well and you're really comfortable with, but you, you know, it's not like you're going to dine with them in the spring and summer. Right.

Speaker 13 But, you know,

Speaker 13 it's surprising how close you can get and how open they can be about their other areas of life.

Speaker 13 You know, whether it's a Bob Knight telling you something

Speaker 13 or uh you know,

Speaker 13 John Thompson telling you something that you know you would never use on the air.

Speaker 13 But, you know, you're comfortable making a phone call and checking in on them,

Speaker 13 you know, how they're doing when they retire. And I got, you know, we competed against John

Speaker 13 pre-Big East and all through to Big East. And I knew him, but

Speaker 13 almost 10 years of doing the NCA tournament with him.

Speaker 13 We had so much time together. It was probably the best time I ever spent with a coach.

Speaker 13 We really,

Speaker 13 we hit on things that you would never even think of discussing as a you know a coach TV person or radio person, but it was just natural flow of a conversation.

Speaker 8 Yeah, yeah. Which teams are you most excited to call in the NCAA tournament? The ones you've watched this year that you're very excited to see where they go.

Speaker 13 You mean this particular season or over the years?

Speaker 8 Like this year, what are you looking at?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 13 you know, I'm curious to see how Duke manages with all these young people i i know uh i know they're talented uh it's just that you know grant was talking about it this morning it's just a different ball of wax you know maybe the first game or two will be one thing uh but how they react i i'm curious to see if the sec

Speaker 13 uh

Speaker 13 can get three teams in the final four, which would be match the you know the big east in 85.

Speaker 13 Those are a couple of the things.

Speaker 13 I think the biggest thing is how kids become stars. Dante DiVincenzo comes to mind a few years back.
He was really a good player.

Speaker 13 And what he did in that tournament escalated, I shouldn't escalate, elevated him to being a draft pick. And obviously now he's a terrific NBA player.
I know he was nicked up recently, but

Speaker 13 he had a good run in New York and now in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But

Speaker 13 that's the excitement, though, I think, where all of a sudden,

Speaker 13 you know, Dalton Connect is another one that the world got to see after his play at Tennessee, because now he's with the Lakers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Our producer is a big Villanova fan, and he said, he texted us when you came on. He just said, Chris Jenkins, how about those onions is forever ringing in his head.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, that had to have been a thrill. I mean, having a a buzzer beater to win a national title is an all-time moment.

Speaker 13 The big smooth, you know, the interesting thing about that play,

Speaker 13 that is a play they had practiced, and it really never got the acclaim that it should have, where Archie Diakano drove at the guy on the right wing, and

Speaker 13 Chris,

Speaker 13 we couldn't hear it, but he went Arch, Arch.

Speaker 13 And then I call it a slap back, back, you know, it's just a pass backwards, but the slap back and the presence of mind to know you can knock it down, the confidence to take it, obviously. But,

Speaker 13 you know, those, those are, those make your day. I mean, as a fan,

Speaker 13 you know, it's Keith Smart's jumper down in New Orleans. You know, I was on that angle.
I thought he was behind the backboard. when he took that jumper in the corner.

Speaker 13 And yet, as the years went on, I saw it. He had a perfect line.
And then his momentum carried him behind the backboard. But those are special moments that,

Speaker 13 you know, they sort of live forever. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Do you have one that you want back? One that you think about, keeps you up at night?

Speaker 13 Probably coaching-wise more than anything, you know, where you, you know, you had a game one and you gave it away kind of a deal, you know. But let me hold it one second.

Speaker 13 That was my daughter called in. But

Speaker 13 not really.

Speaker 13 I think, you know, maybe some regrets,

Speaker 13 maybe some info you thought would have really resonated and you didn't get it in. Or by the time you thought about it, it was too late.
You know, the play had moved on kind of.

Speaker 13 But I think I've been, you know, fortunate to work with some of the greatest play-by-play guys in the world. And,

Speaker 13 you know, they've all taught me something. And I think Vern

Speaker 13 taught me a lot about timing, Vern Lundquist, like without having a conversation.

Speaker 13 You know, like

Speaker 13 I always felt like if I have some information that I think would fit at a commercial, I might say something to Vern and he would say, not yet, let's save that. You know, like his sense of timing

Speaker 13 was

Speaker 13 just, in fact,

Speaker 13 we have, this is a digressing for a moment. We have a Louisville game, and I think, Butler, it doesn't matter, but

Speaker 13 Louisville's upset in this game, NCA game.

Speaker 13 And the ball went to the left, and we're looking that way, and out of the right, I saw an object flying out of the stands, and it ends up being a flask, but a plastic flask.

Speaker 13 So it slid across the floor, and it was almost like God ordained it. It came to my feet, you know?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 13 we go to commercial and I said, Bern, did you ever see that? What? What are you talking about? And I pick up the flask and I hand it to him. He opens it up, smells it, and he goes, maker's mark.

Speaker 1 Puts the top back on.

Speaker 13 We sent it, I forget the name, I shouldn't know, to the head then of the committee for the NCAA. And thanks for the heavy security during the NCA tournament.
You really protected our butts, you know?

Speaker 13 Anyhow, that's digressing a little bit.

Speaker 1 I got a weird question.

Speaker 1 Do you remember the first time you were out to maybe breakfast with Jim Nance and he pulled out a picture of the toast that he keeps in his wallet?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 13 That, you know, I don't know

Speaker 13 how it started, but it was like, I, I, it was like a joke from Jim that got legs.

Speaker 1 yeah so wait does he have it does he have the picture or no i know no oh no wow he's never showed me okay i'm not saying he didn't have it yeah because the legend goes that he has a picture of of of tote the way he wants toast toasted in his wallet and he'll pull it out and he's actually said it so he might just be getting a prank on everyone that he pulls it pulls it out and shows the waiter or waitress being like this is what i want my money would be on it became a joke, I think.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 13 You got to ask him.

Speaker 13 I'm in his arena with this, but

Speaker 13 he is, he's got a great sense of humor, and he'll go with the flow, kind of, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because he told the story on Dan Patrick. So I like he's become

Speaker 8 part of the gymnast legend and giving away the tie. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you ever consult with him about the tie

Speaker 1 when he was about to give away the tie?

Speaker 13 No, but

Speaker 13 we were the beneficiary of ties every tournament from Mitchells in Westport.

Speaker 13 Jim had them sent to us every year. So I and Eagle doesn't send me squat, but Jim Gance

Speaker 13 used to step up and get us those nice little ties.

Speaker 8 Do you ever get upset with Grant Hill because he's such a Duke Homer?

Speaker 1 You're like, chill out, Grant.

Speaker 13 You know, do you feel that that way on the air? We've done Duke Games.

Speaker 13 You know, no question about his loyalty. But doing the Duke Games, I think he goes sideways to try and, you know, just be as even-toned as he can.

Speaker 8 He actually does. I don't mind Grant Hill.
I like Grant Hill a lot, in fact. He does a good job playing it straight down the middle.

Speaker 8 But no matter what happens, there's always going to be somebody that thinks that they hate your team. Except for you, maybe.
I don't know.

Speaker 8 Do you ever get people that come up to you and you're like, hey, why do you hate Cal so much?

Speaker 13 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 13 You know, people,

Speaker 13 well, generally speaking, if they dislike the guys, it means their team beat them on a regular basis, I think.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 13 Or they got beat in a recruiting deal. Or sometimes it's just personality that they don't care for.
But,

Speaker 13 you know, they...

Speaker 13 you know, they're fans. So they get upset when things don't go their way frequently.
But,

Speaker 13 you know, it's funny to walk out of a building and people will say, Great job, you know, and you go, They were at the game, they didn't hear you, but their team won, so you did a great job.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true, that's a very good point.

Speaker 13 Everybody, everybody means well. I mean, it's uh,

Speaker 13 you know, wide open world out there, uh, that that's made the college game special.

Speaker 8 Yeah, so on uh, on Sunday, you're gonna be watching just like everybody else, I guess, right? Or do you get do you get the bracket before it comes out?

Speaker 13 No, we we will probably be in the air. Uh, we'll find out i'm sure like with the ipad or something we'll pick up something but uh

Speaker 13 we uh

Speaker 13 they let the schools know or you the public and the schools and then that night they decide where we're going you know they have a meeting between turner and cbs all the execs is there anything that that you're rooting for like any specific like region you'd like to do over the years it's like you can't go wrong you're going to get one or two teams that are going to get to to the semis or quarter, you know, lead eight.

Speaker 13 So it's like, wherever they send you, it's going to, you do the same thing in every town you go to.

Speaker 13 You know, it's, you're in the gym for eight teams.

Speaker 13 You know, you have a meeting after to get ready for the next day, have a couple of pops and get up the next day and do the games and come back.

Speaker 13 sort of chat a little bit, have a couple of more pops and get ready for the next day, kind of, you know?

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Speaker 1 So we are on the eve of the tournament.

Speaker 1 Do you have a team that you've watched and you're like, this team's going to win it all?

Speaker 1 I know you're not in the predictions business, but do you have a team you're like, that team has everything?

Speaker 13 You know, I don't know if they have everything, but the obvious chalk I would say would be Duke, Auburn, Bama. A team that intrigues me is Florida.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 very good.

Speaker 13 They intrigue me because they got size, speed, shooters.

Speaker 13 Guys, Golden's a hell of a coach. He did a great job at San Francisco.
They're one.

Speaker 13 BYU intrigues me. Oh, yeah, they're good.

Speaker 13 Out of the blue,

Speaker 13 I do think that Houston might be ready. And the reason I say that, they actually have some guys shooting the ball decently.

Speaker 13 And I think that's big because you know they're going to show up and guard you and beat you on the glass.

Speaker 13 And they get extra attempts, too, possessions, which, you know, is overlooked frequently, but they're phenomenal that way. But those are a couple.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 I have a very important question for you you because it's been one that I've been thinking about for, I don't know, 15 years. You're the perfect guy to answer it.

Speaker 8 Why do we call it college hoops, but we call it NBA basketball?

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 13 I never even noticed that.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's always college hoops, which I love. I love saying college hoops.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 13 I never thought of it.

Speaker 1 Now you will. Now you will.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 You'll have to get to the bottom of that for me. Yeah, I will.

Speaker 13 That's an intriguing inquiry. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Didn't mind searching for facts.

Speaker 8 Maybe it's an answer that we're not meant to know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, they're keeping it from us.
Well, Raft, thank you so much. And we look forward to you guys.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we look forward to August 17th. It's going to be Bill Raftery Day on board my channel.
No parade.

Speaker 13 No parade. Just

Speaker 13 a nice little get-together.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that'd be perfect. Well, thanks so much.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we look forward to hearing from you all March.

Speaker 13 You've got it. Have fun.

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Speaker 1 All right, let's wrap up. We got Fire Fest of the week.
Henry. Yeah.
Oh. Oh.

Speaker 1 Your mic's off. Your mic's off.

Speaker 8 Memes is sabotaging you. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Memes doesn't want you to have your mic on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was bad producing by Oldie there.

Speaker 1 Oldie, you got to do a better job of getting Hank's mic on. Dude, you got to get him on line one right away.
Yeah. You guys got him on line seven.
This is memes. Change that up.

Speaker 8 Wait, wait, memes has him listed on line seven? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't even know what this is.

Speaker 8 We only have one, two, three, four.

Speaker 1 I'm a first liner.

Speaker 8 We only have six microphones.

Speaker 1 I guess there's technically another one that would be be right there.

Speaker 1 Oldie knows more about our show than how to produce our show than we do.

Speaker 8 Line seven, Hank. Line seven.

Speaker 1 That's disrespectful. That's not going to happen again, Hank, going forward.
Okay, there we go. That's how we fix it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no problem, brother.

Speaker 8 Let's kick you line seven.

Speaker 9 No, no big fire fest this week.

Speaker 4 It's a great week.

Speaker 4 The weather's turning. Golf season's approaching.
Like, I like walking outside and just feeling like, you know, it's golf weather. That happened a couple times this week.
March Madness this weekend.

Speaker 4 Nothing better. I did have,

Speaker 4 this is is just gross, and I wish I had something else to use as my Firefest, but I'll just say this one because it's really the only thing that happened this week that was negative. But

Speaker 4 I woke up yesterday, went to the gym in my building, sweaty, came down,

Speaker 4 dropped deuce, and then went to flush, wasn't working, and then I saw an email from my building that the water was shut down for until like six o'clock at night.

Speaker 8 So just hung out there all day?

Speaker 4 So I just had to like

Speaker 4 dry off the sweat, come into work, and then come home like eight hours later.

Speaker 1 Wait, what happened with the deuce? I flushed it like last night. Oh, yes.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Just marinating over basketball.

Speaker 9 It was disgusting.

Speaker 4 I wish I really didn't want to even have to say this because it's gross.

Speaker 4 And that's it. That was my fire.

Speaker 1 It was disgusting. Dude.
It was disgusting. The water being shut off, that's such a and I wanted to shower so bad.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I remember like in my old apartment in Brooklyn, they would shut off the water, I don't know, like twice a year. And when they did it, it would be like, how is this possible?

Speaker 1 How can you shut this water up? I would go buy a bunch of water and be like, got to get ready. It's like, yeah, there's no water for four hours, dude.
You can handle this.

Speaker 4 It was literally, and

Speaker 4 it was 10.05, and I'm like, what happened? I opened up my email and it was like, from 10 to 6, I was like, if I was just 20 minutes earlier, I was fine.

Speaker 1 Did you try to turn on the shower? Yeah. Yeah, and you get the air coming out.

Speaker 8 That's what you get for working out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's my question. Never again.

Speaker 8 It's funny because right after you take a shit, your shit's funny. And it it looks like, I know there's a bunch of group chats that people have.
They take a picture.

Speaker 8 Look at this gross shit I just took. And they sent it.
That same shit, if you wait eight hours, you're horrified by your own poop.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's gross. It was gross.

Speaker 9 It's gross.

Speaker 4 There's no, I really, like I said, I didn't want to mention it, but.

Speaker 1 That's really gross. It was gross.
Hank. That's really, really gross.
But, Hank, you know what I got?

Speaker 8 I think I got this yesterday. Might even be Tuesday.
The first email from a golf course

Speaker 8 saying it's that time of year. We're opening up this weekend.
No carts, though. You can go out there and walk, but we will have the course available for play on Friday.

Speaker 4 That's amazing. Yeah, I think next week, hopefully, if the weather's nice, we'll be the first round.

Speaker 8 Get back out there.

Speaker 8 What are we shooting this summer? Give me some goals.

Speaker 4 Break 85. That's my goal.

Speaker 1 Bye. Whoa.
By when?

Speaker 4 By July.

Speaker 1 You know, you could just by filling out the card however you wanted to. That's true.
I'll break 85 first round.

Speaker 8 Thanks, man of honor. I'll shoot 80.

Speaker 1 I guarantee I shoot 84 first round out this year. We'll see.

Speaker 4 When do you think your first round will be?

Speaker 1 Whenever you guys make me do a video.

Speaker 1 I'm sure that will come soon. I'm sure you'll be like, hey, we got this awesome sponsor.

Speaker 1 And I was thinking maybe we played golf. And I don't

Speaker 1 know. I'll say, all right, fine.

Speaker 8 These aren't Hank's ideas.

Speaker 1 I do have fun when I go out. I just don't have time to go out.

Speaker 8 It's not Hank's idea that he gets forced into playing golf for work. Literally.

Speaker 2 I'm pushing to get Hank into the Creator Classic. Yeah.

Speaker 1 By the way, shout out Trent.

Speaker 8 Shout out Trent.

Speaker 1 Shout out Trent.

Speaker 8 put out it was a performance for the ages he had the the best moments of anybody that golfed yesterday the shot that he took on that hill where it looked like his ankle snapped in half and then he just created a new bunker and his ball came to rest in that bunker uh it was it was so funny so relatable and then his performance on 17 was it was real life tank up it was if you're going to be in that creator classic And what was the prize?

Speaker 1 I don't even know if there was one. Okay, so like if you can't win, you know how the old Ricky Bobby, if you're not first, you're last.
That's

Speaker 1 listen, in that type of setting, if you're not first, be really, really last because everyone will remember it. And he had the most memorable performance.
And it's literally the creator classic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was incredible.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 1 he created the best content.

Speaker 4 And the fact that it's the day before a real golf tournament, which is happening, and there's a non-zero chance that that massive divot that he put in the ground might come into play is like one of the greatest storylines going.

Speaker 8 It's a new bunker that he made on that hole. And yeah, it's uh, it's, I'd say, likely that somebody will find themselves in or around that divot that he took.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that was huge. That was huge.
That's a huge divot. Like, I mean, you could almost, if you brought in a tree or you could put a new shrub in there, yeah,

Speaker 1 put it right in.

Speaker 1 What was the full, full total distance? Like, you know, the science facts when they show like the ball, the ball tracker, the trace thing here? Like, how many would that be? Like, point

Speaker 1 one? Would it go backwards?

Speaker 2 It was negative.

Speaker 1 It was bad. It had to have been negative.
He lost. I think the the ball went backwards.
He lost, and then it's another stroke, so it just keeps adding up and adding.

Speaker 8 And I'd like to also see the total distance on every shot that he took on 17. Like how far it was a 130-yard hole.
I think he probably hit like 700 yards worth of shots on that hole. Yeah.

Speaker 8 It was great. But it was so...
I was so happy for him when it landed. He said he only had two balls left.

Speaker 1 The guy, Grant Horvath, he's not a professional golfer. No.
His name is a professional golfer.

Speaker 8 You're thinking, there's a guy named Horvath, isn't there?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, Billy Horvath or something. Bill Billy Horschel.
Maybe Billy Horschel.

Speaker 8 But yeah, I thought the same thing for a little bit.

Speaker 1 When I saw it, I was just like, wait a second, how's this guy in this?

Speaker 1 He should be a professional golfer. That's a professional golfer's name.
I agree. Like that Grant Horvath, if you see Grant Horvat, he's, you know, 12th in the FedEx Cup standings.

Speaker 1 I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I think he's like the biggest. YouTube golfer.

Speaker 1 He was really good, but I just, I couldn't believe that, and he looks like a professional golfer. He should be a professional golfer.

Speaker 1 I don't know know if his game's there, but he checks those trending upwards. The look in the name, professional golfer.

Speaker 8 Yeah, shout out Kyle Berkshire. Sorry that I wasn't on his bag.
He asked me to be on his bag.

Speaker 8 I accepted to be on his bag in the video, but things come up in part of my take, and we had interviews and stuff this week, so I couldn't make it down there.

Speaker 8 It would have been fun, though.

Speaker 1 P,

Speaker 1 that could have been me. That could have been me on his bag, too.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah. I'll send you next time.

Speaker 1 1,469%. I would go.
I know. He loved you.

Speaker 1 You started that number. You didn't know where it was going.
Oh, no. It ended, though.
It finally ended because it would have been worse.

Speaker 1 Because if it didn't end, it would be like.0, 0, 1, and 6, and 7s and stuff. Well, we'll be on Hank's back next year.
There's something brewing. Yes, yes.
This is a problem, PFD.

Speaker 1 I don't think you were here for this conversation.

Speaker 1 Max, for some reason, is like pushing for him to be in the creator classic. And I said, well, then he has to.
practice a ton. And Max was like, but that would be great.
He could practice more.

Speaker 1 I think Hank paid off Max.

Speaker 2 I was watching Trent.

Speaker 4 I think Max is going to take Ash for like a vacation or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's something wrong. Something is up, right? Windy fingers.

Speaker 1 You just saying, Hank, I want you to golf more. Either that or he's trying to push you out.

Speaker 15 No.

Speaker 1 Yeah, wrong.

Speaker 1 Wrong, wrong.

Speaker 4 He might like what he's saying, but I also like to go.

Speaker 2 I was watching Trent struggle, thinking how awesome it would be if I was watching Hank struggle.

Speaker 1 Max?

Speaker 2 Because Hank would have taken it so much worse and got so much more upset.

Speaker 2 That's my porn is when Hank is playing poorly in golf and I can just look at his face.

Speaker 1 Why couldn't we get you in the creator classic? I know we're not a golf channel channel,

Speaker 1 but we're the number one sports podcast. We can't be like, hey, this guy should be in it.
I doubt it.

Speaker 2 I bet you we can.

Speaker 1 50 should do it. Next year, next year, we're getting Hank in.
Also, I'm now putting it all together. Max wants your seat because now he has Holdie,

Speaker 1 who knows the one through sevens on the mic. This was yesterday.

Speaker 8 Holdie can produce. It sounds like you're scared.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The thing is, time moves quickly. Time does move quickly.
quickly.

Speaker 8 You're scared, Hank.

Speaker 1 Definitely. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He did. He was scared more reasoning.
He had to sip the drink there. It was like a nervous sip.

Speaker 1 What does time moving quickly have to do with it? Well, all of a sudden he's seventh line, and he shouldn't be the seventh line. That's true.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 And matter of fact, the last time I was here, wasn't he on holidays

Speaker 1 as well? He was.

Speaker 1 I was on holidays. I was on holiday.

Speaker 1 How much time is this guy going to get?

Speaker 2 I didn't ask for more time. I just wanted to...
Sorry, I wanted to see Hank fail in front of millions of people.

Speaker 1 But Hank was here. I was with Hank, and you weren't here.
I'm talking about true. That's a good point.

Speaker 2 They can't, don't let them put, don't let them put us against each other.

Speaker 1 I think it's a good idea. Yeah, no, we're on the same.
No, no, no, no. We're two big brothers.

Speaker 2 We're on the same side. We're two big brothers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we are. We're two big brothers.
We're on the same side. You don't want to roll us 2v2.

Speaker 1 Cut him out. Yeah, cut him out.
I'll keep an eye on this guy. Yeah, okay.
All right. Keep your hands above.

Speaker 8 Also, I love that one of the biggest storylines in the players this weekend is that they moved a tree. Yeah.
It's so cool.

Speaker 8 Big tree. There was an iconic tree that blocked your T-shot on, I think, 11,

Speaker 8 and the tree went away because they had to, it was dying. And they found a perfect tree to take its place, picked it up, and moved the tree into the tree box.

Speaker 8 And now everybody's super proud of the tree there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, have you seen the tree yet?

Speaker 8 My Fire Fest of the Week. There's a couple.
One is actually not my Fire Fest, but I think it's a Fire Fest for all guys in general. Okay.
And this comes to us from our good friend, coworker, Hubbs.

Speaker 8 And Hubs tweeted this out last night. Did you see this, Hank? No, I didn't.

Speaker 8 He said, my fiancé just asked me with a straight face, when was the first time I dunked? She just assumed throughout our entire relationship I've been dunking.

Speaker 8 Was stunned beyond belief when I said, none of my friend group can do it. I wonder how fast she thinks I can throw a baseball.
Hubbs is probably about my height.

Speaker 8 And he's bringing to light the fact that a lot of women just think that all men can dunk. Yeah.
And so it's like, when did you first dunk? Like, when did you first learn how to ride a bike? And

Speaker 8 this is bad for guys. This This is bad.

Speaker 1 This is, I'll tell you what, it's even worse when you have kids because it doubles. Where, like, my, my son has asked me, like, did you play with him?

Speaker 1 Like, he'll meet a hockey player or an NBA player and be like, did you play with him? Yeah. I'm like, no, I did not.

Speaker 1 I did not play with him. I did not play professional sports.

Speaker 1 That's not what he had. I remember when I first took him to a Blackhawks game last year and he got to meet Wayne Gretzky, and then I told him that was the best hockey player of all time.

Speaker 1 He has the most goals

Speaker 1 soon to be OV.

Speaker 1 He asked me, he's like, how many goals did you score in the NHL? Yeah.

Speaker 8 Kids assume that like every adult guy is either a former professional athlete, maybe a former firefighter,

Speaker 1 maybe a police officer, big time firefighter, maybe an astronaut.

Speaker 8 Yeah. And you're like, no, I sit behind a mic and fart.
I'm a podcaster. But yeah, so I dude, I didn't know this until Hubbs tweeted out.

Speaker 8 And then a lot of people replied saying, yeah, I asked my girlfriend or wife. And a lot of women just think guys, all guys can dunk.
Yeah, that's bad. That's very bad, Hank.

Speaker 4 It seems, yeah, it seems easier than it is.

Speaker 1 It does seem easier than it is, doesn't it?

Speaker 8 Yeah, you were basically a chick a year ago. Yeah, I'll be able to dunk.

Speaker 1 How would you answer that question?

Speaker 1 When was the last time you could dunk? Would you say I almost dunked?

Speaker 4 I'm probably, I'd say, coming up soon. Soon.

Speaker 1 I haven't peaked yet. Yeah.

Speaker 8 I would just say, like, last time, when was the last time I played 2K? Like, four years ago?

Speaker 4 I just have a trampoline in my life.

Speaker 8 I dunk on little basketball hoops all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 8 And then the other Fire Fest is actually Firefest. Firefest 2.
It's happening. Oh, yeah.
It's happening in Isla Mujeres, Mexico. Allegedly, it's happening.

Speaker 8 I think it's May 30th, and they've got all these packages. I was looking on the website.
There's one, you can buy a ticket for a million dollars.

Speaker 8 They have a million-dollar package that you can purchase.

Speaker 8 They haven't announced who's playing, so before I spent the million dollars on the ticket, I hit up Billy McFarlane, the guy that runs Firefest. I was like, hey, what does the lineup look like?

Speaker 8 And he told me he wanted to announce DMX, but they wouldn't wouldn't let him yet.

Speaker 8 DMX died like four years ago. He was joking.
That was a joke.

Speaker 1 That was a joke from Colin McFarlane.

Speaker 8 But he did say, because I said, either I or somebody at Barcelona should go to Firefest 2. And he said that he will give us a ticket if we want to go.
May 30th. I don't.
I don't.

Speaker 8 You don't want to go to Firefest. You don't want to go to Mexico?

Speaker 1 It would be cool.

Speaker 1 We'll send Oldie's corporate correspondent. Yeah.
Oldie is our correspondent. Oh, man.
Do you want to go?

Speaker 1 Side pouches out on the beach?

Speaker 8 Do you want to go to Firefest 2?

Speaker 1 Oh, absolutely. Well, if it's two, that means one was already rocking and rolling then, so it's got to be

Speaker 1 running it back. I mean, I know that a lot of people.
We might have to send him as our international correspondent because you are international. Yeah.

Speaker 8 If I can get you a ticket,

Speaker 1 would you go? You can't deny the ticket. That's like...

Speaker 1 My only concern with sending Oldie is like... He would make it fun, and I think people would be like, that was an awesome time because there was this Canadian dude that was making everyone, you know,

Speaker 1 go balls to the wall.

Speaker 8 Yeah, so there's also, there have been a couple denials from the local authorities.

Speaker 8 Some people saying that it's not happening. I'm choosing to believe Billy until

Speaker 8 what has Billy done to make me doubt him?

Speaker 1 Does he still have the dude that will suck dick for water?

Speaker 8 He should be there. Yeah.
That's a guy that you want on your team. All-time guy.

Speaker 1 Imagine that giving the guy all the water, and then you still got to give him a like a heavy ganger.

Speaker 1 It's fucked up. You thought, like, okay, cool.
This guy's water. This guy, they're going to be be fine.
Now he's like,

Speaker 1 what?

Speaker 1 That's exactly how it go.

Speaker 8 So, yeah, we'll try to get, if this happens, I do want Oldie to go.

Speaker 1 That would be fun.

Speaker 1 Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
What?

Speaker 2 I'm looking at the accommodations right now. Part of it, it says the luxury room, which I believe is the million-dollar room, will contain a minimum of one bed.

Speaker 1 A million? Minimum. Fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 They're doing a good job of it.

Speaker 2 That's for the luxury package. You get a minimum of one bed or two double beds at the guest choice.

Speaker 1 The mark got zero beds.

Speaker 2 Which makes me believe that there's probably some that have zero beds.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 8 If you say minimum of one bed, though, and there's not a bed, like that's a problem.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The beds couldn't be a blow-up. It's not going to be a soft.

Speaker 8 Yeah, probably. They'll get the guy that sucked Dick for water coming there and blow up your restaurant.

Speaker 1 Where is all that as well? Where is it?

Speaker 8 I think it's Isla Muharris. Yeah, Isla Muharris.
It's Tropical Island off Cancun, Mexico. Oh, okay.
I thought that was the Jurassic Park Island the first time I heard it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, to be continued.

Speaker 1 All right. My Fire Fest is just

Speaker 1 an age one. I don't know.

Speaker 1 We are two days into true March Madness conference tournament week.

Speaker 1 There's nothing worse. I woke up this morning feeling like absolute dog shit, and it was not like sick.

Speaker 1 tired. And then I had the moment of, what did you do yesterday? Oh, yeah, you sat on a couch and watched TV all day.

Speaker 1 And it's the most pathetic feeling ever to be like,

Speaker 1 I'm mentally and physically wiped from watching basketball.

Speaker 8 Sometimes when, like, the less you work out, the tireder you get. Oh, yeah.
It's big time. What do you think about getting some of those? You know, the little pedals that you put under your desk?

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 What if we just had those in the case?

Speaker 1 Oh, remember the ad machine I put on for a podcast once? Maybe we get those.

Speaker 1 But we should, we should try to get some workouts in because, yeah, it was,

Speaker 1 it's just, it's, we're two two days in and I'm already feeling,

Speaker 1 and I know I'll be fine because this is my favorite time of the year, but it's just like pathetic.

Speaker 1 It's absolutely pathetic that sitting and watching basketball can mentally and physically drain me now. You've got a long two weeks, Dick.

Speaker 4 A long two weeks. This is March.

Speaker 1 I'm going to fight against you every day. Yeah.
Tooth and nail. Hank, by the way,

Speaker 1 faded me when I lost, and then yesterday I won and he didn't fade me. Isn't that weird?

Speaker 8 You didn't fade him yesterday?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but isn't that weird that it was the day I won? Yeah.

Speaker 9 Well, I missed.

Speaker 1 He really is a commenter who's just like halfway through a game, like, bad bet. No, I'm not.

Speaker 4 Everything I do, I tell you what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 But you said you were going to fade me, and then I went to the game.

Speaker 4 Well, yesterday I was doing stuff, and I missed the early games, and

Speaker 4 I didn't want to, you know, hop in.

Speaker 9 Hop in. Got it.

Speaker 1 Got it. But it's just interesting.
Like, the day I lose, you faded me. The day I won, you didn't.
Yeah, good luck.

Speaker 1 You're like Jim Kramer. You're good at timing the market.
I'm a lucky guy.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Oldie, you're Firefest.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's been a decent week for me, so good start.

Speaker 1 Early, early on this morning, though,

Speaker 1 the flight in.

Speaker 1 First off, half an hour delayed plane maintenance. So I'm thinking, oh, here we go.
Now I'm not even going to make it.

Speaker 1 Have you guys ever had to buy a bug spray on a plane? No. Why?

Speaker 8 Wait, you bought it on a plane?

Speaker 1 Well, I had to. I was so far back.
Like, my knees were wedged in the back. There was mosquitoes, flies.
What? Right beside the washroom.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like you guys appreciate you flying me down earlier this morning. Wait, there's mosquitoes on the plane? They must be so confused.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know why they put me back so far in the seats. I'm beside the washroom.
It smells like, you know, when you go and drink the next morning and it reeks of like bad alcohol? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was beside the washroom. There were actual.
So did you get bug spray? Yeah, because there was bugs and shit all over the place. Wait, where can you buy bug spray? The stewardess helped me out.

Speaker 1 She had bug spray? Yeah, because she knows how bad the airline is that I flew in on that there, she knows it's not good back there. So

Speaker 8 you sprayed the bug spray on yourself on the plane.

Speaker 1 Yeah, to keep the mosquitoes and flies off me.

Speaker 8 What point is concerning to me that the stewardess had bug spray on the plane? She must have known.

Speaker 1 That she knew. That's the flight I took.

Speaker 1 What airline?

Speaker 1 Can't do that. Why? That's not nice.
What does it rhyme with?

Speaker 1 This is going to be a while to figure out a rhyme.

Speaker 1 No, I don't know. I don't know.
You don't know what he's doing on the airline.

Speaker 1 I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 I had no bug spray. I'm just bullshitting you guys here.
Oh, so what happened? No, I was in.

Speaker 1 The only disappointing thing was I walked past the first class and then I was in the middle class. Yeah, I thought maybe I would be with the other people.
Wait, so there was no mosquitoes?

Speaker 1 No mosquitoes. I'm just joking, but look, look what I did have to get.
Look, here, I got to show you live, Max. We'll see here.
Photos.

Speaker 1 This is the roll your own dice when you're looking at photos here.

Speaker 2 No, you're good here. I won't look until you're ready for me to look.
Look, look at me.

Speaker 1 Look at my feet. Look how much feet room I didn't have.
I know. I took took off my shoes.
Taking off your shoes.

Speaker 1 By my shoes off, guys. There's Bitrona.
Well, I had to. There's my share.

Speaker 1 Tell my shoes off. The front.

Speaker 1 Clean socks. Donuts?

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's disgusting here. Wedge them in their seatbelts.

Speaker 1 And I had to sit beside him.

Speaker 2 Wait, you had an open seat next to you?

Speaker 1 Yeah. What?

Speaker 1 And it's amazing. That's an incredible flight.

Speaker 2 Are you puking?

Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't feel good on the plane. It was rough.
He showed me pictures.

Speaker 2 Now he showed a picture of him in the doggy bag.

Speaker 1 Picture of him in the bathroom. Barely even move in the washroom.
Look, if you guys don't believe, look at that. How much more tight is this plane?

Speaker 2 And anyone watching on the YouTube will be able to see all these photos.

Speaker 1 And then look at these. Look, I don't know what that's a party? Party section? What's that? That's a good thing.

Speaker 1 We could use that. There's a party section.

Speaker 1 It's like a little

Speaker 1 photo shoot on this plane. Get in here.
Sick, guys. Great ride.
Look at that.

Speaker 1 Couldn't get any closer to the ship. I know.
I know. That's tough.

Speaker 1 When you go through security and you go through that big machine that scans you, do they ever stop you afterwards and they're like, sir please empty your pockets and they check your crotch the pouch no no that's no i had to do that today i put my hands up and then i guess my hands weren't high enough above so i said when my hands go from here do they go from behind the mouth to my back and she says no i said i'm not getting arrested i said i'm not well i don't have to do this right i don't know what that scan really does yeah i think it's just checking to see if you have like any anything anything on you yeah

Speaker 1 all right well so no bugs But good trip. We're happy you're here.
Good trip. I'm glad I'm here.
This is awesome. This is great.
Yeah, tune into the streams.

Speaker 1 Oldie will will be watching college basketball with us. Oh, I can't wait to bump and grind with you guys out here.
This is going to be one heck of a week. How's the snow situation in Canada right now?

Speaker 1 Starting to melt. Nice.
Starting to melt. Do you get a little sad, though? Because that means the plow's going away for the season?

Speaker 1 The only thing I missed, to be honest, pushing snow back and burying people's driveways in, is just absolutely laying on the horn. When someone's in front of you or behind you, just go dizzy with it.

Speaker 1 Let it go.

Speaker 1 So when you're not plowing the snow, when there's no snow out there, what do they have you doing oh filling potholes i was filling potholes all week it wasn't good that sounds like a lot more work than driving the snow truck yeah that's what i mean you're in the truck you can just bang on the horn you know pump the tunes here you're in out in out filling potholes people yelling at you telling you don't know how to fix the potholes the lady told me what are you doing stopping the truck filling the potholes i said because it's got to fill the hole she's like well you don't know what you're doing I said, well, then you get out and show me.

Speaker 1 She says, well, my husband owns a construction company. Well, then tell him to get his ass over here.
Like, I don't care.

Speaker 1 Drive your Audi out of here, lady. Get your ass out of here.
Move on. You remember that house? Snow them in.
You're not filling my hole right now.

Speaker 8 Yeah, my husband does a way better job of filling that hole. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what I say? I said it for years now.

Speaker 1 Laugh now, cry later, sweetheart. Yeah.
You won't be able to get that Audi out. Never, never.
Hank drives an Audi.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he's like a bigger, better Audi. She was like a Q3 thinking like she's big time.
Is that what you drive?

Speaker 2 Hanks. That would be be exactly what I'm talking about.
Oh, no.

Speaker 8 Hank, you drive a chit car?

Speaker 1 What's wrong with a Q3?

Speaker 1 Would you say an Audi is a chit car?

Speaker 1 Great on gas. Let's put it that way.
Yeah, that's a chit car. That means that's a chit car.

Speaker 8 But Hank's got a sick grill. He just upgraded it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's do numbers.
Finish off with numbers.

Speaker 4 17.

Speaker 1 33.

Speaker 1 I got to go 61 here.

Speaker 8 77.

Speaker 2 One.

Speaker 1 99. Pug.
Good odds, someone's going to get it. 77.
A lot of I took 77.

Speaker 1 Lil Jackie. Lil Jackie.
P took seven, Sean. P took seven.
32.

Speaker 2 Also, for everyone out there, his name is now Lil Jackie. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's Lil Jackie until he proves he's the man. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Until he fights Shane. Correct.

Speaker 1 Agree.

Speaker 1 42.

Speaker 1 42. Jackie Robinson.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.