Bill Raftery, Conference Championship Thursday, Oldie Is Back With The Boys + Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Great interview with him talking about his career, March Madness, some of the awesome stories from the road. Kind of a bucket list interview because he is someone that we just, is synonymous with March and all the big moments.
We are going to talk about some college basketball.

Incredible day of hoops.

And we have our good friend Oldie back in studio sitting next to Max.

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For new customers, get $150 in bonus bets when you bet just $5 only on draft kings the crown is yours today is friday march 14th and this is march because what a day of hoops we watched pft there were so many awesome games so many awesome finishes my my eyes feel like they're gonna fall out of my head but it was awesome when When God made the calendar, he made February two days shorter so we could have more March.

That's a fact.

And thank you for doing that, dear Lord.

And also, thank you to Oldie.

He's back. Because Oldie's back.

He's in the booth right now.

Oldie's picks were red hot today.

Yeah.

What?

Five and one?

Four and one.

Four and one.

Fired out of the game.

I went four and oh.

We had a bit of a crumbler at the end of there. Yeah.
We'll get to that. He knows ball.
Yeah, we'll get to that. Yeah, good job.
Oldie is back. Oldie, what were your impressions from the gambling cave today? Because this was your first time being around us in these high-stakes situations.
And we should say that if you missed the episode after the All-Star Game, the NHL-star game the nhl all-star uh oldie is our canadian he belongs he's he's you're you're representing the entire nation on part of my take and he kind of belongs to us because the whole tariff situation yes so you're ours yeah and uh so if you didn't listen that go back and also listen that episode because oldie's the man yeah yeah oldie big cat's question uh question. What were your impressions of the cave? Oh, like I told the guys and girls in there tonight, one of the best ever experiences watching a basketball game ever.
Ever. I love basketball now.
Yeah. The Mojo in there was so alive.
Everyone. I felt like it was a tennis match.
Left, right. Left, right.
Up. Yeah.
Where am I at? I get so many great games. It's easy to get lost in march too when there's multiple games going on you you just have to make decisions and say i'm going to zero in on this i'm going to ignore this game where the second half just started and i'll get back to it it'll be there when i'm done with this game right and then we just go left go right back on big screen off big screen yep and what did you think about some there was tempers at some points during the day oh it's good what did you like that oh i love that should we play the max video we should probably play the max video he said his mom's gonna get mad well she probably already saw it so what are you gonna do i mean it was an all-time rant but this is what march marches is gambling with your friends but also just losing it and i'll say in Max's defense.
Everything that you're about to hear him say was all fair play because it was all in the confines of the gambling cave in March where you can say the most vicious things to your friends. And it doesn't count.
Yes, between the lines. It does not count.
It should not count. You can act however you want to act.
It should not count. It must have been, I want to say, like 34 seconds of completely losing his brain.
He lost it. He lost it.
He lost it. There was zero.
He went and he went. Yeah.
He well deserved, though. It also is a nice refresher that for anyone who thought if Max, when Max wins the Super Bowl, he's not going to still be Max.
He's still Max. He's still Max.
He's still Max. okay here it is this is this is after the end of the villanova game which we'll get to uh and and our friend rico bosco said well max at least i he bet you con he's like at least i didn't rub it in your face and uh max then said this max in fairness i didn't say a word the entire game.
I saw you fucking dance, you fucking cocksucker.

Shut the fuck up.

Actually, shut the fuck up.

You fucking piece of shit pussy.

Go suck some more dick.

Go ask fucking Danny Hurley the next time he comes on PNT

if you can get his fucking shoelace.

Huh?

Pussy.

Fucking.

That sounded like, you know when in Hollywood there'll be.'s played it again He's also so far away from the microphone It's still so loud It's one of those TMZ reports Christian Bale caught on live mic Freaking out One of those were David O. Russell Yeah Max screams at his The whole I can't even talk right now.
The lighting crew. Yeah, the lighting crew.
Quit freaking out on the behind the scenes guys, Max. But that was fun.
All right. I honestly, because we watched so much hoops today, I was going to just literally scroll the scores and just anything we wanted to talk about, any games we wanted to shout out.
And the first one is Cooper Flagg's turned ankle. Yeah.
Wheelchair. It looked pretty bad.
It looked bad enough where I think he's not going to be 100% in the tournament. So I have a doctor on staff, Dr.
Dan. He's also a Duke fan.
He said that probably out for the ACC tournament, March Madness. He wouldn't be surprised if they sit him out the first game because they'll win anyway.

And then probably a Toradol shot, steroid shot, wrap him up.

He could probably go in the second round if needed.

They might keep him out both games.

They could.

I don't know.

Amalek Brown got hurt too.

Separated his shoulder.

I think he's going to be out for the year.

And he's not like their star player, but he was a key piece. I'm not a doctor, but you can say a sprain is worse than a break.
Yeah. It wasn't a high ankle sprain.
That's the only good thing. Yeah, because it rolled.
It didn't get caught under him or anything. His foot is going to just be the size of a softball with very black and blue.
But the wheelchair. That was a tough look.
That was a dupe look. He might have just shat himself.
It might have been a Paul Pierce situation. This is why I wish...
Better safe than sorry. I wish players could stay longer, and I know that it wouldn't matter because he's just a freshman, but when Cooper Flagg got hurt today, if that were Grayson Allen or any other Duke players that I hated, I would have reveled in it.
I didn't really feel anything because I kind of feel bad for Cooper Flagg. He's an awesome player to watch.
I hate Duke, but I wanted to have more hate, and I didn't have it. Well, I don't think he's that hateable of a guy, even for a Duke player.
Because he's not there. If he stayed a couple more years, you know he'd start kicking guys in the ball.
Yes, that would be very funny. We'd see him cry him cry in the march madness tournament like we'd get the hate they're just so it's so transactional they're in and out that i just don't even have it for them i agree if this was a mick roberts if this was a plumley yeah we'd be like shout out our guy also now but he's no longer duke yeah so we like him uh but flag yeah it was it was a tough look in the wheelchair i get that they it was a long way to the training room yeah that's that's their explanation for it but yeah i hope he gets better hey i want to i want to send a message though to cooper flag cooper this is why you got to go to the nba yeah no matter who drafts you no matter who is in position the lottery you're risking injury if you come back i know you you could get nil if you back but this is the chance to earn life changing money for you and your family if the wizards get the first lotto pick don't even think twice go to the nba yeah don't listen to andy staples don't doesn't have your best interest in art he's got his best interest in art because he's a college guy also you could have a chance to play with wendy because i don't know if you guys saw but uh who who got hurt today.
Fox. Yeah, Fox.
He's a college guy. Also, you could have a chance to play with Wemby, because I don't know if you guys saw, but who got hurt today?

Fox.

Yeah, Fox.

He's having pinky surgery, which just reads, we're trying to tank.

Yeah, just cut it off.

We're tanking this whole thing.

Pinky surgery.

All right, so that was Duke.

Duke survived, but I want to see Cooper flag in the tournament.

That would suck if he misses extended time.

But the wheelchair was the story. St.
John's rolled. Good job, Rick Pitino.
BYU is a shocker. I know that wasn't like, you know, they're a very good team, but they were underdogs and Iowa State was having a good season.
So BYU, the Mormons, we also. They were what, three and a half point underdogs? Yeah, I'm going to get you ready for a storyline PFT selection Sunday.
We're going to have to do the whole discussion of where BYU gets seeded. Did they get screwed because they can't play on Sundays? Yeah.
Yeah, so they have to move them around. Yeah.
So did they lose a seed because they had to fit them in somewhere they shouldn't have been? That would be fun. Yeah, also- For like two minutes.
Just play on Sundays. Yeah.
Play on Sundays. You just don't drink water.
Just go to hell. Just accept like I'm going to go to hell, but it's worth it because I get to play in March.
Also, God is definitely a March Madness fan. So, yeah, he'd be fine with it.
Amen. Amen.
Thank you. The Texas Texas A&M game was insane.
Yeah. Double overtime back and forth.
Those two teams don't like each other. They don't.
Rivalry game. Buzz going after it.
Yeah. Buzz, interesting decisions at the end.
Yes, I would say so. To put it lightly.
Yeah. I root for Buzz, but sometimes he makes me say, Buzz, maybe your suit's too tight.
Yeah. a little bit.
A little bit. My Badgers beat with Northwestern.
Needed that just for some mojo. Klezman's back, so it feels good.
Yeah, we did. Also, Indiana.
Yeah. Oldie was a Badger fan and Villanova fan today, so he went one and one.
He's wearing the Villanova shirt right now. Right now.
But you got to get the Badger stuff back on tomorrow. Oh, yeah.
Ready to go. Big tilt against UCLA.
Top of my backpack. Ready to go.
All right. Rock and roll tomorrow.
Also, Indiana might be out of the tournament now. I don't know if you saw that.
I did. They were in the first four out.
Yes. With Ohio State and I guess.
Ohio State. Was Ohio State one of the.
They were one of the first four out today yeah unfortunately yes yep and then yeah let's see Texas Texas probably is now in yeah yeah I'm looking at the oh he doesn't even update it on Twitter no it was it was on the broadcast okay he was doing it live on the broadcast Linardi. But again, Joe Linardi is not always correct.

Joe Linardi also is probably napping right now.

So, all right. I'm trying to look to see if he updated it anywhere.

Does he not do a live bracketology update?

I think.

How are you not doing it a minute by minute?

I think he only does it on the air, so you have to watch the games for it.

Well, I know he writes an article, too, but it doesn't like this.

It should be out.

There should be updates every second.

It's ridiculous.

Max, don't you agree?

Yes, agreed.

Wait, what's today's date?

Oh, he did update at six o'clock.

My bad.

Whoops.

Sorry, Joe Linardi.

He did update it.

All right.

Last four in right now are San Diego State, Xavier, North Carolina, Texas.

First four out are Indiana, Ohio State, Boise State, Colorado State. Next four out, Dayton, UC Irvine, Wake Forest, Villanova.
So this is the end of the run for Neptune? Kyle, Neptune. We'll get to that in a little bit.
Yeah, we'll get to that in a little minute. We'll get to that in a minute.
All right. Oh, Marquette, Xavier was an incredible game, too.
Xavier totally blew it at the end, although Marquette was just hitting every shot.

And then Xavier with the shot of the day in terms of covering with a half court bank shot to cover two and a half.

That's what March is about.

It didn't mean anything for the game.

No, it meant a lot.

It meant a lot.

It meant a lot.

That was real.

That's real basketball right there.

Yeah.

It's hard.

Deep woods. Boom.
Boom. Shaboom.
Shaboom. The room lit up.
Bumping and grinding. Everyone was fired up.
On the coaches. People were going dizzy.
I wasn't even fired up. I didn't have anything on the line.
I was still fired up. Oh, we had two buzzer beaters, too.
Or we might have more. But Ole Miss, buzzer beater on Arkansas.
And then Chucky Hepburn and Louisville, buzzer beater on Stanford. Yeah, Stanford chucked that away.
Yeah, the ball was just flying around, and he got it in perfect shot at the end. That was awesome.
It is great, man. This is such a fun time to just sit on your ass and watch sports.
Watch so much sports. Oh, we got the Kentucky.
Oh, that overdone. Sorry.

Yeah.

PFT.

It's okay.

DePaul with almost the upset of the day that they just fought their asses off, but we knew

it.

They just couldn't survive double overtime.

If you're buying stock in any program right now, I feel like you could do worse than DePaul.

Yeah.

If Chris Holtman stays.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now, if he leaves, then I guess that's the risk that you take. But this is a great penny stock yeah this is a great shit coin to invest in yes we should actually make holtman shit coins yeah someone probably already did uh i also want to give a just special shout out to middle tennessee because i watched every second of that game absolute war uh what i i haven't seen i don't know if i've ever seen that where middle tennessee He hit a buzzerer beater to end the game but he got the shot off in time for it to be a buzzer beater but it was late on the shot clock violation there was one second left so you had some of the orange on the backboard light up and then a half second later the rest of the backboard lit up they started the possession with 31 seconds left and he got it off for a buzzer beater but it was shot clock violation now if that was the chief's plan they would have just turned off the shot clock right yeah that's how it worked with them absolutely there's been like good basket we're just gonna go just pretend it didn't happen uh also arizona looked good against kansas kansas is just broken i don't they're not gonna be that's gonna be one of those ones where they're gonna be a a five or six, and everyone's going to say, oh, my God, down goes Kansas.
Are we ready to say? We watched them all year. They weren't good.
Are we ready to say that Kansas is going to be the five seed that you should bet against? It might be a six. I got to see where they are.
Let me see bracketology. I kind of hope they're a five seed.
Let's see where the Lenardi is because they've fallen down the stretch. Let's see.
Kansas, six. There are six.
I'm taking whoever plays against Kansas. W.
There you go. There you go, Oldie.
Right now, Lenardi has it. San Diego State, North Carolina is the playing game.
That would kind of suck. North Carolina, Kansas in the first round if North Carolina won that game.
It's a playing game for UNC, huh? I mean, I know they deserve it, but that would be shocking to see that would be very like those aren't playing colors yeah and then the best part is tomorrow is maybe one of my favorite days of the year because and i know i say that a lot hank but it's the the matchups are the best yes we got creme de la creme we got florida playing florida tennessee right florida tennessee uh kentucky alabama the big 10s got great games michigan state oregon to start is going to be great uh badgers play ucla i think illinois plays maryland and then purdue versus purdue that that sucked usc got screwed that was a that's titus brought up a good point when we were watching that game, and that's that Purdue still gets the Zach Eadie fouls. Yeah.
And Zach Eadie's not there. Correct.
But it's just muscle memory for the rest. It's institutional.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's just carryover. But it was a great day of hoops.
I don't know what else to say. Oh, we should talk about the Villanova game.
Max, that was tough to watch. Yeah, no no that was just the entire season

except for Eric Dixon

played much worse than he normally played this season

that was the only difference

go up look good 75% of the game

absolute fucking pitfall

what was the run that it ended on

because it was shocking to watch

I think a 22 to 2

or something

and Dixon went 2-for-15 from the field. And how many points did he need to get the record? He needed 16 points to break the all-time scoring record at Villanova.
And he's the highest scoring player. And he's the leading scorer in the country, went 2-for-15 in a way that ended their season, ended his career, and most likely ended the career of the head coach of villanova kyle nepto which is good not his career his villanova career villanova career but that's good you wanted that good guy so who do you want max um i don't know i don't know the coach of vandy jmu jmu coach who then went to vandy that's.
That's probably number one on my big board. Okay.
I'm seeing a lot of the VCU coach, which... Byington? What? For the Vandy coach.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. You want Spradlin? The coach of JMU? What about Jay Wright? Jay Wright would...
I miss those days. That's a good point.
I miss those days, and I'm sorry for yelling. No! My mom, I'm going to get a stern talking to from my mother tomorrow morning.
She doesn't like when I say sucking dick. Can we watch it again? Because I think it was the last pussy.
We don't have to watch it again. Let's watch it one more time.
We don't have to watch it again. It was the last pussy that felt like.
I actually think it was the first one that he said that was the C. Oh, you do? Yeah.
The C one's going to be tough to hear as a mom. No, I think the last pussy was.
No one's meant it more than that moment when he called him a pussy at the end. That was a good sign off.

Can you also my mom also does this weird thing of when I do this.

She thinks that Max you follow campus cuties.

I don't.

Oh no.

Campus.

I don't know.

This is the for you.

This is the for you.

Oh no.

Based on your algorithm.

We're going to have to put this in the show again.

That's campus cuties. Okay.
I'm going gonna have to put this in the show again that's campus cuties okay gonna have to put that in the show max make sure you subscribe to the youtube you just get max's uh the hot girls he followed i every single day i max was super upset about this and he's like he was in here and he was like all down and he's like i just feel like i shouldn't have said that. I said, that wasn't for you.
That was for all of Villanova's feelings. That wasn't your feelings, man.
The entire team, the entire fan base. That's how everyone felt.
They just didn't say that or catch it on camera. Yeah.
Oh, my goodness. Max, in fairness, I didn't say a word in the entire game.
I saw you fucking dance, you fucking cocksucker.

Shut the fuck up.

Wait for the last pussy.

You fucking piece of shit pussy.

Go suck some more dick.

Go ask fucking Danny Hurley the next time he comes on BNP

if you can get his fucking shoelace.

Huh, pussy?

That one.

That one.

Pussy. I mean, that one.
Ask Danny Hurley if you can get his fucking shoelaces. That's better than get your fucking shine box.
That was all fair. Also, shout out Texas Tech and Clemson.
They were in dog fights. Those are two very good teams that Clemson could.
I mean, with Duke Cooper flag being out, Clemson is very live to yeah I mean I think Clemson plays Louisville next uh yeah that's gonna be a great great game and Texas Tech is playing great ball and we did see I I think the most impressive thing I've ever seen on a basketball court tonight I think it was halftime of Kentucky yeah Oklahoma yeah Oklahoma and Kentucky they uh they brought out onto the court. I think there were two Australian Shepherds and one small dog.
And these fucking dogs were jumping rope. But it was also two of the dogs that were swinging the rope.
Yep. Doing double Dutch.
It was a little jumping rope. It was incredible.
Red Panda hot seat. Yeah.
Although Red Panda still. She she is the queen she's the queen she's

the big east tournament fanta was was fanning out for it was a good time she's she's been doing it for a long time she's uh she's been great one of the all-time goats but i mean i'd be nervous about these dogs no it was an incredible clip we should get these dogs to the barstool office i agree i. I agree.
Absolutely agree. All right.

So other things.

I'm trying to I'm just scrolling to see.

I got something.

Oh, yeah. Go ahead.

Not college basketball related.

Okay.

Wait.

Let me see if we have any other college basketball.

I think that's it.

Do you Hank?

Did you have a good day of watching college basketball?

Oh, does it have anything to do with I did well?

Yeah, it might.

Oh, good for you, though.

The fader.

Mr. March faders.
The faders are having a tough day yeah i just gotta trust the process hank is fading me you know what hank's doing right now he's he's doing father time is undefeated yeah he's doing the he's buying the dip yeah yeah just stay stay stay invested buy the dip yeah it will come back up fading big cats at a discount right now this happens happens every year, yeah. This happens every year in the market.
Don't panic. Any thoughts from you? I know you're pretty upset about Cooper Flag.
Cooper Flag? No. I mean, seeing Stanford in the ACC tournament was weird.
Yeah. Well, Stanford Cow was Wednesday night.
It was bizarre. Yeah.
That was my big note. Oh, okay.
That's a good big note. And seeing, was it Illinois in the ACC tournament against Maryland? Shocking.
What? Oh, yeah. In the ACC.
Maryland's not in the ACC. Yeah.
Got it. Yeah.
I was confused. Yeah.
But we did have a classic matchup of, yeah, USC versus Purdue. Love it.
I love it. Need it.
Need it. Maybe there's not more two polar opposites of locations.
No, they speak different languages. It's perfect.
Oldie, did you want to say something? No, I was just saying, like, when you said Maryland, I knew. Big Ten.
Yeah. Yeah.
I already knew. You knew that shit.
Max gave me knuckles on that. Yeah, I knew.
I knew. Boom.
Okay. PFT can't trick you.
Yeah, I was like, that's Big 10. Yeah, you're right.
And that's where the knuckles went. Knuckles.
Boom. Boom.
Bump and grind. All right, what's the other thing you have? Other thing I had, I've actually got two.
I've got a couple as well, yeah. They're doing another one of those bracket challenges this year you know how warren buffett says like i'll give a billion dollars to anyone that can pick a perfect bracket because it's impossible to do yep um elon oh no is saying that x is launching its x bracket challenge okay if you get a perfect bracket you win a trip to mars oh can i get the cash instead they are they do have a cash prize hundred thousand dollar cash prize.
That's it? If there's a perfect bracket, you win a trip to Mars. Oh, can I get the cash instead? They do have a cash prize, $100,000 cash prize.

That's it?

If there's no perfect bracket.

I think you can also take an alternate $200,000 cash prize if you get a perfect bracket.

Okay.

Kind of cheaping out.

Kind of cheaping.

No one's ever been to Mars yet.

Yeah.

So although I would nominate Hank to go.

I don't want to go to Mars. Me neither.
How far could you hit a golf ball on Mars though? Far. Very far.
To Earth. Very, very far.
Yeah. Then the more important thing that I had, also Hank, this concerns you.
Have you seen what's going on at UNC with Belichick? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
So apparently Belichick is telling all the North Carolina officials to copy his girlfriend on any emails that they send him. Hank, are you still there? Oh, yeah.
Oldie, go ahead. What? Yeah.
That's all I got. I'm out.
What? What? His 24-year-old girlfriend. She's apparently a very smart philosopher, right?

Yeah.

She is a philosophy major.

He's asking his bosses to copy her on all the emails that go to him.

Maybe he's just trying to stay organized.

He's a busy guy.

So he's got his girlfriend as his secretary.

Seems that way.

Something along those lines.

It's kind of what, like, you know, in relationships, you're helping each other out. The shadow coach at UNC? Oh, I think it's, you know, it's a family.
They're trying to build a family program, and this is part of it. Are they family? No, but, you know, maybe.
You're trying to instill family into the program. It's like Miss Terry.
Can I say something? And listen, it's no offense to Bill Belichick. If they have a kid, that's going to be...
They can't. That would be so funny.
They can't. They can't.
So funny. They can't, Hank.
That would be weird. They can't.
They can do whatever they want to do. That would be weird.
They can't. It's like Robert De Niro.
Doesn'tbert de niro have a kid like every two years yeah that guy fucks he's he just keep popping out kids yeah so originally he was saying that he wanted her to be copied on everything that related to social media and web content which makes sense which makes sense but does apparently uh that's expanded a little bit to other emails including whether to accept interview requests oh from people. So we need to email her.
Yeah. Did they dox the emails by accident? There was one email that got leaked.
Let's see. Oh, no.
From Bill Belichick to Robbie Evans, CC Michael Lombardi. Thank you, Robbie.
Thank you for the email. I am including Jordan on this email so she can also keep up with her postings can you include her on anything that you send to me thank you bb all right so that's social media well that that one's social media but it's apparently expanded a little bit so we need to email jordan asking to have bill bolichick on the show yes okay okay ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working nah neither, neither has Ariat.
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Golfers are so soft. So here's what happened, PFT.
I'm looking at the clip. Rory McIlroy is in the Players' Championship this weekend.
On Tuesday, he's playing a practice round. He hit one into the water.
The guy said, oh, just like the Masters in 2011. He goes and re-tees, hits his second his second shot this is a practice round then goes and takes the guy's phone and just starts walking off with i'm looking at it right now yeah that's soft hey yeah it's soft that's insanely soft like what it's a practice round it's true if he can't take that type of heat i mean yeah the guy might be a d you could be like oh that guy's kind of a dick like why would you say that but still that's soft it looked like he was also typing something on the phone i think he was trying to delete the video but then he's got to then go to the next person who took the video of the video this isn't the masters you're allowed to have a phone at sawgrass and it's also a practice round like i would understand if this was a sunday he's competing for it's the fifth major competing to win then it's like all right yeah that's a fucked up thing it's a practice round so apparently it was a collegiate golfer that did it so what they had rory had him removed by tour security this is so soft i cannot i i this is, Hank.
And then the college golfer apologized. That's soft.
That's soft. Written apology.
What did Rory say about it? Rory. He doesn't want to answer questions.
He doesn't answer questions? Also soft. They asked him, like, do you want to talk about it? He said, no, I don't want to talk about it.
And then someone else asked him about it. And he said, I'm happy with my score today.
Of course he doesn't want to talk about it. He stole else asked him about it and he said i'm happy with my score today of course he doesn't want to talk about it he stole he stole yeah he robbed the guy that guy should press charges there's no difference between between him and patrick reed yeah you can't just go and take the guy's phone no if you did down the street what would happen to you you get shot yeah yeah punish punish punish yeah punished or if you want to take it farther, charge.
Charge. You stole my property.
Yeah. You can't do that.
And he's probably got a card on there. He's probably got his digital wallet.
Yeah. Probably got some nudes.
That's revenge porn. Yeah.
Federal crime. Wow.
Hank, I can't believe you were going to defend him. You're too much of a golfer.
Yeah. You're not the common man.
You're too much of a golfer. You to a pga tour pro than the common man i'm not i'm not completely exonerating this guy because like yeah he's a dick if you see red though like it was bad obviously no no no no just walk away you should have talked about it after i'm trying to get in the head of hank right now for why he's being reluctant to criticize rory for being a prick is it do you think that one day you could be a professional golfer? No.
And you don't want fans to make fun of you? No. But Hank, you know how the internet works.
If this, oh my God, Kentucky's about to blow this game. You hit the over PFT.
You jinxed it, big cat. I think you said Kentucky playing today, Friday.
Yeah, I did. Oh shit, I just heard yelling.
Oh, something happened. Okay, Kentucky's no longer playing today.
It's going to be Alabama-Oklahoma. What a comeback.
Holy shit. Kentucky might win.
Kentucky also might win. This might be a double jinx.
I might double jinx it. Wow, what a meltdown, Kentucky.
That's a game that Cal would have won. Cal would have won.
He would have had a player. Cal would have have won this game Cal would have had the horses yeah alright well I guess we'll see I'm going to get so many tweets about Kentucky playing Bama yeah if this ends up being Oklahoma alright back to the Roy thing you know how this works Hank if this guy posts the, the internet has like brains and the internet would say, hey, dude, that's lame.
Like he would get shunned. It's kind of like when someone will DM a player and the player will respond in an angry tone and they'll post it and everyone's like, dude, why would you DM a player after a loss? Like you're the loser here.
Yeah. That guy that guy would have been the loser here instead rory flipped it and now he's the loser and it's soft yeah it's definitely soft he was just seeing it was a moment of seeing red he should have talked about it after and he should well he shouldn't have done it he should have done it he that that fan who's been there's fans there all the time at events got in his kitchen and he lost his marbles wait but hey even now you're like yeah he should have talked about it afterwards and then we said he should have done and you're like yeah i guess what what is it what's going on hank no there's no no it's not it's not that serious there's he shouldn't have done it but i like when i saw the video i wasn't like shocked i wasn't like how could he have done this like i could understand how he was like pissed off in that moment could you ever see max homer doing this no could you ever see brooks doing this no no right i would have done it you would have done it well if it was angry but you said seeing red he just kept saying seeing red i was like sometimes you see red you can.
You can easily just walk away. You walk away.
And again, if he posts that, he's the loser. You can walk away or you can squeal your tires and drive away out of control.
Rory also very good at doing that. Easily do that.
Yeah. All right.
Kentucky's about to inbound the ball. By the way, they were up 80 to 72 with 119 left.
Holy fuck. Jeremiah Fears just took over.

Oh.

Oh, Kentucky!

Oh, wait.

There's .5 seconds.

Okay, Kentucky-Bama.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, Kentucky-Bama.

All right, you were right.

I got to correct my tweet because I said Cal would have lost this game

or would have won this game.

Now I'm going to have to say Cal would have lost this game.

That will be fun. I've been down a couple weeks for popes yeah big time do we have a new one no no he's recovering oh really yeah so he got rid of his double pneumonia i it's probably not like a permanent solution but he's better now yeah i also watched conclave so now I feel like I'm an expert on that.
Yeah, I know everything.

Yeah. Yeah.

I know everything.

What an ending.

What a day.

That was incredible.

Jeremiah Fierce did it all there in the end.

I feel like he scored every bucket.

And then Kentucky.

Good job, Kentucky.

So Kentucky Bama, that's going to be fun.

That'll be great.

That over is going to be like 170.

All right.

The other golf related thing I had, we had a big respect the biz uh if you guys did you guys see this yep uh it was hold on i gotta find it it was uh morikawa right morikawa basically said i don't owe anything to anyone uh which is fine i don't care like yeah i mean you you you do owe answers but like if that's the if that's kind of the attitude you want to take i'm not going to be upset about it when somebody says something like that confidently that's one of the like most key indicators that they've talked to a therapist at some point right and he's like yeah i realize i don't owe anyone anything that said you don't want to say that about like fans you can say it's no yeah yeah in the media in the media we've we've been uh very consistent on this the media complains about it but what we what they don't realize is they're not looking in the mirror and when a player says i don't owe anyone anything or i'm not going to do media they're literally just giving you a story yes you now have a story to write about how morikawa didn't do the media so and it's better than him a cliche answer yeah when cam newton doesn't talk to reporters after a super bowl loss then you just get to write for basically like five years cam newton could learn a lot from any athlete yeah about how to interact with the media respectfully but i did like uh ian mcmillan who's a senior editor at uh sports illustrated, said, Colin Murakawa said,

I don't owe anyone anything.

He said, yes, you do.

Professional sports and the money that comes with it

relies on the relationship between athletes and media.

I think it relies on the relationship

between athletes and fans.

Yeah, but the media, he's saying the media.

The media.

If they don't talk to the media,

then no one's going to watch the games.

Then nobody knows who you are. Right.
Yeah. So the media is the one.
Let's respect the biz here. You are the media the media if they don't talk to the media then no one's gonna watch the game then nobody knows who you are right yeah so the media is the one let's respect the biz here you are the media yeah uh okay i also we also on rory as bad as that was rory's round today was very funny because he was just constantly driving the ball into the heart of the woods and then somehow making birdies because it would what it would do it would like force him to lay up on a second shot right and not go for a crazy long one and then knock it close so it was a good thing his the worst worry is at driving at least today the better he was playing on those maybe he also put a scare into everyone being like if he will take your phone yeah he will rob you yep at any moment uh we also had this league uh between michael parsons and demarcus lawrence because demarcus lawrence is on the seahawks now and he said on the way out dallas is my home but i know for sure i'm not going to win a super bowl there and then micah parsons quote to you said this is what rejection and envy look like this some clown shit and then demarcus lawrence replied calling me a clown won't change the fact that i told the truth.
Maybe if you spent less time tweeting and more time winning, I wouldn't have left. This league.
This league. That's some good this league shit.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he wasn't a big fan of Micah, even where they were on the same team. Yeah.
Maybe not the best of friends. Yeah.
Maybe not the best of friends. I have a national sports podcast.
Oh, let's go. I might have gotten got on this.
I want to preface this by saying I might have gotten got. I'll back you up.
But can we fact check this oldie in real time? It's a hockey story. So can we fact check it? Yeah, he just got to go.
Okay, go to www.google.com. There you go.
That's the one. Bang.
And then what are we going to eat? All right, so here's the story that I read today. The general manager of the Utica Comets traded his son.
His son is Will McKinnon. Will McKinnon.
For future considerations. Trade him to Cleveland.
Not even for anything. For future considerations.
Plot twist. What's a consideration? Well, it's like to consider them.
Like maybe a player to be named later.

Maybe a bag of hockey sticks.

Another, like Pox.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It turns out the GM of the Comets is his dad.

Oh.

So his dad traded his son to Cleveland, traded him away.

Right.

For future considerations.

Good. Is this a, would Lebron do something like this is future considerations like a grandkid it could be and i want a grandson maybe maybe his son has a long-term relationship long distance with a girl in cleveland trading him to cleveland actually a great dad move yeah that is weird, this could be the mark of an outstanding general manager, though.
Yeah. Somebody who's willing to cutthroat.
Yeah, cutthroat, just pure analytics. The coldest examples of sports is a business.
There has to be more to this story, right? His son probably asked for it. Or maybe some of the players on the team were upset that his son was getting preferential treatment.
Yeah, maybe that is. Oh, yeah.
Wait, wait. Utica is last in the AHL's North Division in 14th Eastern Conference.
The Comets will not be making the playoffs, even a league where 23 of 32 teams qualify for the postseason. The Monsters are fourth in the North Division.
Oh, he's trying to give his son a ring. Yeah, he's getting his son into the playoffs.
I like that. That's actually a solid dad move.
Great dad move. Great dad move.
Huge dad move. It went from like, there's trouble.
He's not passing the ketchup over at the dinner table or something like that. No, I want you to go grab that ring.
Yeah, go get a championship, son. Go get it for us.
Get a call. Make me proud.
Make me proud. Get out of here.
Go over to the affiliates, Blue Jackets, Cleveland Monsters.

Is that the Blue Jackets affiliate?

How was the game out at the shoe?

Oh, fire.

It was so good. The battle back before both teams right to the third period.

And then CBJ just took over and 5-3 finish.

Love it.

Winner.

What do you think about torts? Oh. Who? Torts.
Tortorella. Tortorella? He's not there.
Oh, he's not? No. But what do you think about him? That's not what he was asking.
Don't try to embarrass PFT. Wait, where's Torts right now? Don't try to.
But he's Flyers. Don't try to.
I think. Is he Flyers? Yeah.
Yeah. He's well.
He's well. Don't embarrass PFT.
No, no. I'm not embarrassing.
He just asks, what do you think about him? I'm not embarrassed. I'm consistent.
I am not a diehard hockey fan. I'm a Capitals fan.
You are. He's right.
He does. But it does stand to, if you look at the transcript, you just ask, what do you think about torts? Yeah, what do you think about torts? He's a hothead.
I like that about him, though. Yeah.
He's not scared to tell people what's up. Yeah.
Sometimes things are crazy, but I mean. I was going to say what do you think about torts he's a hothead i like that about him though yeah he's not scared to tell people what's up yeah sometimes things are crazy but i mean you didn't let me i was gonna say what did you think about like torts do you wish he was still there and how's his how's he doing his job in philadelphia he still gives it to the guys too yeah he does yeah yeah he's not afraid to tell him what's up yeah yeah who's gonna win the cup i said my blue jackets from before.
I got a ride on that. So you're just sticking, dude.
Yeah. Who's going to win the cup? I said my blue jackets from before.

I got to ride on that.

So you're just sticking with that?

Yeah, I'm going to have to, I think.

I mean, there's obviously a lot of good teams,

but we got to ride with CBJ.

Boss boys.

Is Nasher part of the – he's part of the program, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, so you got to ride with them hard.

Hard.

Max, one more question for you here.

Paul George being evaluated for multiple injuries. You think this is it for him? Yeah, there was also a report that they were looking to trade him in the offseason.
Oh, yeah? Max is struggling with the idea of tanking. He said that he can't watch the games.
I can't. But he can watch on the...
Yeah, you know why? Because it's a sad tank. Yeah.
Yeah, it's very... Well, but it's also the most necessary tank ever.
But you should be happy because, like, the Bulls are going to make the 10th seed. They basically have sealed it up.
It's insane that they're going to still be in this fucking play-in game when they're so bad and they traded away Zach Levine and they're still going to... Like, it's so stupid.
But the difference is we don't need a lottery pick. We need to be top six.
Yeah. We're at the sixth spot and the Raptors, the Sixers, and the Nets are all within a half game and if we get the seven pick, the Thunder get our pick.
Wait, but that's after the lottery. Correct.
After the lottery. But like you still – The odds, yeah, yeah.
Realistically, we're trying to get to five. Right.
Because if you get to five, then one team can still jump you. Right.
And we'll still get our first-round pick. But we're a half a game back.
It's like you have to lose. You have to lose.
Here's a compliment, though. This is a very, very fast tank.
Yeah.

Most teams, it takes some... You had championship, maybe not championship,

maybe just deep playoff aspirations at the start of the year,

and to recognize halfway through that year,

fuck it, let's just be really bad,

it usually takes teams a year or two to get to that spot.

You accepted being a loser way faster than most teams do.

But then this summer, they're going to be back to champion like you think so oh yeah they're gonna chipper boss they're gonna try and be championship it's a one-year tank correct unless mb's dead not dead but knee is dead he's dead he's dead r.i.p. r.i.p.
knee he's already r.i.p. no if that is

the if that if that is the case if that is the case uh the last thing i had was uh virginia tech who lost on tuesday which feels like 10 years ago uh we had one of the best quotes uh from a player ever Virginia Tech's

Toby

Law on

Virginia Tech's Toby Lall

on Virginia Tech exceeding expectations

because they were 13 and 19

and they were bouncing the first round of the ACC tournament.

He said they thought we were going to be ass.

I mean, we were still ass, but we weren't that bad.

Yeah, not a big ass.

It's pretty good.

We weren't as ass as people thought that we were going to be. They thought we were going to be ass, and we were, but we weren't as bad.
Yeah, not a big ass. It's pretty good.
We weren't as ass as people thought that we were going to be.

They thought we were going to be ass, and we were, but we weren't as bad.

Yeah.

Suck it, haters.

Yeah.

Have that, haters.

Who does Duke play?

Duke plays UNC.

UNC has the opportunity to do a very funny thing.

Which is?

Just beat Duke.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

That would be funny.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We have some awesome games tomorrow.

Old, are you ready to strap it in and do it again?

I am so stoked.

I'm going to go back to the hotel tonight, Matt. I just stay here.
Just buzz. Just buzz around the office.
Buzz around here, no? We got a lot of building down and just back up at it again in the morning, no? It's basically like getting trapped in a Chuck E. Cheese.
Yeah, I can't leave. I can't leave.
I just keep getting tokens and tokens and tokens. The coin stone stop.
It doesn't matter. Like, you want this token? Sure.
You want that? Okay, go to that game. You're done with this game? Go to the next game.
Oh, you want some food? Oh, sure. No problem.
Oh, you want this? No, I don't want it. Okay, get rid of it.
Send it out. Peace.
See you later. On to the next.
I'll crush that. No problem.
You do seem like you're a little thirsty. Do you have a body armor flash IV with you? No, I don't.
But I'm starting to decline, I think. Yeah.
We need to get you one before we do our interview. That's why I got to get home somehow, I guess.
You had a pretty light day today, huh? In terms of flash IVs. You did one on the yak and one on the live stream.
So it's only two today. They weren't feeding me.
I don't know. Is on with body armor? No, no, no, no.
No, they loved it. By the way, I heard back from them.
They loved it. They loved every second of it.
You know what I got to you? I forgot to send it. I should have sent that to the boys out or like a Twitter, the X thing or whatever or Insta.
Yeah. Everyone, by the way, Oldie is on socials now.
What are your social handles? Canadian Oldie. On Instagram and Twitter.
Instagram'sie uh i believe the x is canadian underscore oldie okay i should try to readjust that so it's on the same page yeah so it's the same so the same page anyways i was driving and i seen a 53 foot trailer uh body armor it was not flash body armor iv get it in you it was the original stuff that's been out probably from here like seven years ago yeah and it's new to canada it says now in canada oh hell yes yeah i got a photo of it love it oh i guess i'll sell the boys tomorrow yeah today that's cool do you how many pictures a day do you take uh just if i see some good stuff yeah some good shit out there yeah it depends right yeah we had a good video stream today i got a i got a good video of uh wrigley right yeah oh wrigley yeah yeah it was awesome yeah you were going putting in your brett's at draft kings yeah oh that was cool that was you got it's a lot of great tvs in there yeah it's endless there are a lot of great tvs in there it's endless in there you look and you're like this doesn't stop it just it should do with 360 is pretty good anyways. Yeah.
Oldie, is there anything that you want to try or see while you're in Chicago? Yeah, we kind of are bringing you here and just trapping you inside. Yeah.
Is there anything like any food that you want to try, any landmark you want to see? The bean, but that's just like cool reflection. Like everyone.
You can see the river on Saturday dying green. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I'm excited for. Yeah.
I got a couple of things. I can wear something down there.
Yeah. We'll just hop, skip in a boot down there.
Yeah. We'll get over there.
Yeah. Not walking distance.
No, probably not. No, no.
Some people say they jump. Yeah, you could.
We can get a bike. No, I can get one of those e-scooters or something like that.
Yeah. But people jump in the river after they die it.
No, you shouldn't. No, you shouldn't.
Don't do that. No, no.
I wouldn't do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wouldn't do that. My favorite thing is they say that it's healthy for the environment.
When you dye the river neon green, I'm going to guess that it's probably not. It looks like ooze.
It's got to be a band, color band or something. I'm going to call it a 20-second timeout real quick.
Were you going to jump in the river? No, I didn't think about that. A couple of the boys were talking about it earlier.
I feel like you were going to jump in the river no I didn't think about that a couple of the boys were talking about it earlier I feel like you were going to jump in the river he clearly just said he wasn't even thinking about it the boys mentioned it earlier it kind of crossed my mind don't jump in the river don't do that. We won't do that.
We'll just go down and admire the view.

So they put a lot of dye in it because it just goes shaboom, shaboom, green, just like that.

Yeah.

And it's flowed.

And that's the Chicago River, right? Yeah, yeah.

All right.

I'm getting better at this place.

Yeah.

And Dan Ryan Expressway.

Yeah, there you go.

There you go.

I've traveled that back about 20 years ago when I came to White Sox versus Red Sox game.

Oh.

After I left the RCA Dome for an exhibition game against the Colts versus the Ravens. Jeff Saturday.
Me and my boy Dan. What a trip.
It was funny enough. We were on the highway.
He was driving on the Dan Ryan Expressway. He's Dan.
I'm Ryan. Oh.
So we're like freaking out. We're driving from Indianapolis or Indiana from the game.
I was yelling at Jeff Saturday, Saturday, Saturday.

Freaking.

And we got scalper tickets for like eight banger bucks.

It was preseason.

So you were up in the top?

RCA dome.

Yeah, we could touch the little domer.

And you were yelling Saturday?

No, we worked our way.

Magic all the way.

How I do.

All the way to the bottom barrel.

Right in front of the back of the Colts, man.

Saturday, Saturday.

The lady's like, yeah, okay, okay.

The guy's used to give me the ticket easy. Take it easy.
And all of a sudden, she's like, you want to come down and see him after? I said, yeah. What? She had tickets.
A little scan pass. We got to see the players after.
Gonzalez was there. Just because you were yelling at Jeff Saturday? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we got to go down and see all the players after. Why? What's the link to Jeff Saturday? I don't know.
He was just center. I was just fired up.
My buddy's a Colts fan. That's why he came down.
And you just love him. You want to go down? I said, absolutely, Dan.
Why wouldn't we go down at the game? But Peyton Manning now? Yeah, well, he wasn't paying attention to that. I was yelling at him like Saturday.
He's a beauty center. So we got to go down and hang out with the players.
We walked out of the dome. Everyone's asking, oh, I need an autograph, autograph.

My kid's sick.

Buddy, you got to go up.

I'm not signing autographs.

Right where the players were.

Anyways, went back to the hotel, crashed out, a couple soda pops, obviously.

I woke up.

We're like, what are we going to do?

Chicago.

Oh, let's go to a baseball game.

White Sox, Red Sox.

We're flying the Dan Ryan Expressway.

There's a big flood happening on the road.

We get here.

We go into this thing, scalp tickets.

But when we go up, we think we're late. Dude, it's 1.15.
We're late, dude. 2.15.
We're late. Time change.
Boom. Oh, boom.
Got us. Gotcha.
Yeah. Got us.
Yeah. Wow.
Great experience, though. So you guys are just freaking out being on the Dan Ryan? Oh, yeah.
I'm like, dude, this is us. This is us.
Then we had combos, eh? We had combos. And the car, love that.

Great snack.

Combos.

So my buddy used to dart.

My buddy used to dart back in the day, right?

He used to dart.

So he's got a little ashy, a little holder in there.

We're cruising home.

We're back in now, Ontario.

We're cruising.

I look down on the ground.

Oh, sweet.

Combo.

Grab the combo.

A little bit soft.

I think the cigarette thing fell on the ground.

It was a little bit wet.

A little bit soggy, but good combo though.

It was the cheese one or the pizza one.

It wasn't the buffalo hot one.

It was like the cheese or pizza.

Was it a cracker or pretzel?

No, it was the little ball.

The combos.

You never had a combo stuffed in.

Some are crackers.

Some are pretzel.

On the outside.

Yeah.

The pretzel.

I think it was the cheese or the pizza one.

Yeah.

The pretzel one.

Solid.

But it was soft.

But yeah, no.

That's a great story.

Yeah.

Oh, my God. Some are crackers, some are pretzel on the outside.
Yeah. The pretzel.
I think it was the cheese or the pizza one.

Yeah, the pretzel one.

But it was soft.

But yeah, no.

That's a great story.

Dan Ryan Expressway.

Yeah, my boy Dan.

What up?

He's a beaut.

He's a beaut.

Out in Texas now.

Have people recognized you since you came a few weeks ago?

Yeah.

Yeah.

When I left, the guy in the plane sat beside me.

You, Oldie?

Walking in today. Oldie, what's up? What's up, buddy? That's awesome.
Gotta go. At the game, stadium game, doing interviews with people.
People are like, I gotta get a photo. I'm like, okay, buddy, I'm trying to do an interview.
So get a photo. Gotta go on to the next guy.
Yeah, it's been wild. So it's been fun.
It's been great. That's awesome.
I gotta shout out to you guys, too. I also gotta give big love to my boy, Yanzi.
Yeah. For lining that up.
Yanzi's the best up though yeah i'm coming in for the boys he nailed it he called me and said i got a guy for you and i was just like okay he's like you gotta just do it like all right beauty do it and you guys like all my boys all beauts yeah like i don't even want to leave like people are asking me oldie so how long you and how long i'm looking at my exact well if they kick me out i'll be gone tonight if they don't want me here i'll leave tonight but if you want me here i'm here yeah you say you already tried to move his flight when's your flight back sunday but i was like for now you might have to stay till monday and he's like but if i stay till monday shouldn't i just stay for the whole next weekend oh that's what i mean right i think i think the only way to get oldie you've never had a bracket day have you you might have to stay we got to bust your bracket yeah yeah never did that yeah you gotta you gotta watch the bracket with us like I could do a bracket here and then oh yeah well how's the bracket looking oh cool I'm back in Canada watching my bracket on a tv on one tv when I could be watching seven tvs yeah on the back burner in the corner beside us. Yeah.

Big time.

Absolutely.

Cheering on my team.

Big time.

All right, Oldie, send us into Bill Raftery with a little, what do you got in your hand there?

Oh, yeah.

Billy.

We back, Billy boy.

Okay.

Body armor, flash, IV, tropical punch.

You guys know it.

What do we do?

One, two, three, four.

Lose the lid. Down the hatchet.
Gotta go. The combo.
That's a memorable combo. A single combo.
Back at it. Hydrated.
Ready to go. Full day ahead of us.
Get it. Get it in it in you good all right let's uh kick it to

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Okay, here he is, Bill Raftery. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest.
He is a legend of the game, one of our all-time favorites. It is Bill Raftery.
You're going to hear him. He is March.
We're going to hear him all March. Bill, Raft, can I call you Raft? Sure.
All right, so Raft, thank you for joining us. It's awesome to talk to you.
We're getting into the best time of year. What's it feel like in the raftery house when we get to march and you're like all right here we go this is this is it it's it's pretty much the same as the rest of the year i get ignored at five o'clock my wife says do you want to eat here or go out and i always say well let's eat here.
And she says, well, if we eat here, I have to go out and get some food. So we end up going out.
So nothing's really changed, you know? For me, it has, though. I mean, life goes on a little bit for everybody else.
But pretty much like today was consumed with Zooms. We did a media day.
Yesterday was internal stuff. So the last two days were more catch up on stuff they want to do, marketing, media, things they've been working on kind of a deal, you know? Yeah.
Other than that, it's look at tape. The unknown this week is I've got Big East games tomorrow night.
And that's, you know, whoever wins tonight plays the winner tomorrow, that kind of a deal. Yeah.
And then Thursday leave for Indiana, and we've got Big Ten on Saturday and semi-Saturday and final Sunday. And then Sunday night, after the teams find out, we find out where we're going.
It's pretty much the same kind of a deal as every year. Yeah.
And I imagine that you get to know these teams pretty well, especially the ones that you cover in the conference tournament. But I also read that you still do a ton of prep going into each game.
You've got, like, binders and binders filled with notes.

Do you still do that?

I think everybody has their own deal, you know.

It's just like you guys.

You know, you learn how to tee it up and what works for you and what's expedient.

I guess the nice thing is with all the travel,

even though you're not doing their games,

you sort of catch up with other teams, you know, whether it's Auburn or like we haven't had Duke this year at all, but certainly they catch your eye. You want to see how good they are, that type of thing.
So you're more into the games you're going to be doing because they're immediate, And then you surface order the rest of them and start to catch up.

Like next week we'll have eight teams to prep for starting Monday morning.

Yeah.

And probably of the eight, I would guess I'll have had four of them.

And the other four you start on right away on Monday morning, you know.

I love it.

So, I mean, you've been doing this for so long.

And like I said, you are like one of those announcers that it just feels right when it's March and I'm hearing you on the call. I have a question about your career and your famous Onions call.
I want to get into all your calls, but do you remember your first Onions? Do you remember the first time you did it and how it came to you? I work with a guy that's a genius and a pain in the neck got by the name of iron eagle and uh the bird remembers everything he'd be a terrible partner you know to be married to because he he doesn't forget anything he never gets over the past and we he claims we were doing an Orlando net game. It was one of those bad net years.

You know, like a 15, 18, and 35 deal. And Kevin Edwards made a jumper against the Magic, and I, for the first time, said, onions.
And he looked at me like, where did that come from? And basically, I never even thought of it, said it, but it was appropriate, you know, for the moment. And the interesting thing about it, I used it a couple more times, and ESPN said to me, we don't want you to use that.
So I stopped using it, knowing that they were sending the checks, obviously. And then some writers started using it in their articles.
And I got a call from ESPN. They said, you know what? You can use that again.
So that's how that whole thing started. It's amazing, the transformation.
It's a nice way saying something uh that captures the moment when these kids just do uncanny things at so many important moments yeah and it is it is a great call that like some of the most iconic moments you can hear onions in your head do you have a bar for double order like do you have a do you have an internal all right not you know can't do it too early, can't do it too early in the game. It's got to be later in the game.
Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, is there like a feel? I think the first, like once in a while I'll say early onions, but it's pretty much like a big three late in the game that, you know, you could tell sealed the deal.
Yep. But I think the one that people have gotten the biggest kick out of is Ronald Moore at Siena, where he made the three against Ohio State to go to overtime.
So that was just a, you know, plain old. And then he made, uh, he made the three to win in overtime.
And that became the double order. Yeah.
I love it. It is great.
I watched a three minute long video that was just a, it was a super cut of you saying onions after big shots. I just listened to you say the word for three minutes.
It was probably the best three minutes of my month. It was fantastic.
Boy, you'd better get a life, my God. It's the best.
It's ASMR for guys. It's fantastic.
Yeah, it does. It just goes in your sports brain.
You just have these things that just rattle around, and we had Mike Breen on last year talking, you know, talking about the beginning of yelling bang and double bangs. And, like, they're just, as sports fans, this is how we consume the games.
And when I think onions, it's like, oh, it must be March, must be a big shot, and Raf's on the call. That's nice to hear.
Of course, Mike's one of those special guys. I remember doing a game with him back when he was doing Marist basketball.
Can you believe it? Okay. That's how far back.
So, what a career he's had, as you well know. Just a class act, too.
Yeah. Yeah.
He is. He is.
Do you have a favorite call that you've ever made? The favorite call is when they put the lights on about two in the morning. You get one morning? It's called the last call, and they double order you.
Yeah. I mean, in my heyday, that's pretty good, you know? Yeah.
But not really. I'm more of a reactionary or spur of the moment, you know, whatever fits.
And I always say, I didn't go to Harvard, so, you know, who knows what's going to come out of there you know what about what about a favorite player or a player that you can look back and like I just loved calling his games because the way the style of play or the moments that he stepped up to uh I you know the NBA Jason Kidd yeah I always said that what he did in the Meadowlands, if that was the garden,

they'd have a statue in front of MSG for him.

You know, every night he did astounding things.

Just, you know, just the incredible feel for the game.

You know, over the years, you know, doing the Nets. And then CBS had the NBA years ago, as you guys well know.
So you got to do a lot of NBA games and what they could do on a consistent basis. You know, just, you know, Magic, you know, Larry Bird.
Just tremendous, tremendous talents.

You know, Julius in the early days, the 80s. I mean, it was

nobody special

but just so many great players

and so many great moments.

You know, college

they live for a lifetime

for these kids. They love them.

They're great college players. They don't get

a chance to expose or shine on that next level uh so it's fun to see them have their moment in the sun yeah yeah you uh you referenced last call and the the legends about you are are fantastic you you like to go out you like to have a good time i think jay billis said that working with you is like going on a three-day bender that might just be more jay billis not being able to he's a nerd to drink at all yeah but i i told this story recently we were in milwaukee and i i it was an it was the football championship monday college and we had a monday big monday and danny gabbard who's runs the NCAA, basically now basketball tournament, and Dave's son, who's just a super guy too. But he and I got to the table late.
So we had like six or eight of us. And Jay was in the throes of needing glasses but not using them.
so when I walked into Moe's restaurant the owner who's a good the Vassala brothers

great guys needing glasses but not using them. So when I walked into Moe's restaurant, the owner, the Vassala brothers,

great guys, I gave the one boy, Jamie, my credit card.

And so we sat down and, you know, we watched the ball game.

Jay ordered the wine.

And the check came.

Then I went behind to look at it, and he claims I almost had a heart attack because he added zeros and numbers in front of the zeros he thought what was 150 was 450 like anyhow it sort of destroyed my evening somewhat but other than that setback we had a lot of fun nights with McDonough and he over the years. But, you know, Jay's a good friend, great spokesman really for the game that, you know, you don't have to agree with him and you don't argue with him because he's too smart to argue with.
But he just has a great feel for what he thinks should be the right thing in the game. Yeah, yeah.
It seems like you're a lot of fun to hang out with. I've read all the stories about you.
You know every restaurant owner. You know all the best places to go out late at night.
You know great Italian restaurants, the whole nine yards. Do you have a secret to waking up in the morning and maybe have an 11 o'clock tip? I guess it's called responsibility.
You know, if you want to play at night, You got to manage the morning and maybe have an 11 o'clock tip uh i i guess it's called responsibility you know if you want to play at night you gotta manage the morning you know you got something else to do but uh i always say i've lost my game a little uh but it's still ahead of a lot of people you know yeah what are you are you still hitting last call are you still making it all the way quite. Not quite.
Not that I've become more responsible. I guess it's just that maybe lacking a little more stamina or just worried about the next event or getting to the next event.
But, no, I've been really lucky with good genes. Let's put it that way.
Yeah, we saw the story went viral last week of Ian Eagle saying that you once came out of a bar after last call with eight beers in your trench coat for everyone. Can you confirm that? I hope it was more like, you know, he got it wrong.
It was a dozen beers. It wasn't eight, but it was a couple, you wasn't a it wasn't eight but it was a couple you know

i can remember one night uh i think it was the san antoni san antonio net uh championship series unfortunately i think it was four zip as it was with the lakers too but uh jay wright came up and And we went into the, they had a little after, not after, after game place at the Meadowlands.

And they closed quickly.

You know, a lot of those guys are, you know, other jobs and have to get up early.

So anyhow, everybody was really upset, reluctant to leave.

And I had the guy go outside and put about eight beers behind a bush right by the door so anyhow we went outside and they said well good night i said well we got a little nightcap and i said the guy threw us out i said jay go over to bush and grab a couple of beers that's fantastic yeah i mean i i read a profile about you that you know you would Your move sometimes would be just go to a bar and then you'd have you'd buy you know 20 beers have them out on the table if someone came and said hello to you they have to have a beer with you that's i mean that's all that's a legendary uh i don't know about that usually they were part of the group i think more than anything you know yeah yeah it's uh it makes for good fodder basically but you know you try and always be under control uh but it's good company the one guy that's incredible uh you know over the years a lot of places close in all these towns whenever i go to any city and i don't know where to go i call pj carlissimo oh and pj knows the owner he knows the maitre d he knows the hostess he knows everybody and uh so he's a great source if you guys are traveling uh give pj a call he'll get you it's utterly incredible but between the nba and his college career he's been over. Yeah.
How many restaurants do you think you have a picture of you up in? Not as many as Sinatra. But you're up there, I feel like.
I know I've seen a few of them. I know I'm about to have a great meal.
Yeah. If Raf's been here, then it's going to be good.
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If you had to pick one of your, maybe do your top three, it could be any city, top three places that you go to when you're on the road. Well, you know, for years it was P.J.
Clarkson, New York. If you were in the city, they were always great to us.
Post game, you know, stay open. And it's still good, obviously.

Moe's would be Toscano and Brentwood.

What's the other one I like there?

Pony's right by UCLA is a good one.

Mostly Italian, you know, the Ivy and Santa Monica.

I'm being West Coast a little because two of our kids are there and we've been going there a lot more lately. But pretty much you get direction from the coach or, you know, somebody in the athletic department recommends a place and you end up enjoying it on a consistent basis.
Yeah, it's good for team build. Good for hanging out with the boys.
Yeah. La Perla down in Washington I like a basis yeah it's good for team build good for hanging out with the boys yeah like

uh la par la perla down in washington i like a lot it's it's not a puppy it's a you know fine dining place but that's one too we go to when we're in town there and epitz uh epitz grill

is another one i don't know if you guys know that one that's a good one too yeah you got any places

in chicago that's where we're at right now if go uh i just told this story recently years ago we were at harry carrie's right and it was closing time we had all the nets radio and tv so we have about eight guys with producer director etc and it's harry carrie behind the bar with ernie Banks. It's closing time.
There's nobody there. And I said, Harry, would you sing Take Me Out to the Ballgame? And he looked at Ernie Banks and the two of them sang it.
That was like one of the highlights for me of a lifetime. Those two famous and delightful guys singing that song was pretty good.
That's incredible. That's a that's a great yeah i mean i wish i could have gotten to hang out with harry gibson gibson's is another one yeah well we went there consistently that we like to go to yeah that's that's another great one good picks yeah uh this is gonna be weird for me to ask you do you have anywhere in the country that has bill raftery Day? Is there any towns or anything that have Bill Raftery Day? I don't even have a Bill Raftery Day in my own house.
Okay, all right. That's fair.
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It was from April 3rd, 2021. I said, we don't appreciate Raftery enough.
Someone set a calendar reminder for August 17th to respect raftery more so are you okay if as a podcast our show if we make august 17th the official bill raftery day on part of my take are you okay with that that is there any financial commitment on my part on this or no uh wait do you have to pay us no no you don't have to pay us yeah we're gonna need a float we're gonna need a whole meal um yeah so you you have to pay us? No, you don't have to pay us. Yeah, we're going to need a float.
We're going to need a whole meal. Yeah, so you will have to pay a little bit.
But yeah, are you okay with us making it? Maybe you'll come back on the show August 17th, Bill Raftery Day. That's a deal.
Okay. All right.
So that's official. I don't think we've ever had a holiday on this show.
I don't think that we have either. But yeah, we'll have maybe a couple glasses of wine yeah tell some stories yeah see maybe go maybe get maybe we'll get a metal detector see how many beers we can get through a metal detector that would be fun that would be very fun yeah so i want to ask just a little bit about your past because i from my understanding you got started on espn when espn was not, you know, nearly what it is right now.

It was kind of a smaller network and you took a chance by going there.

What was that like deciding that you wanted to get into media,

into broadcasting as opposed to coaching?

My, we had started the big East for two years.

And I had said to Dave Gavitt, who was doing the color analysis.

And as a commissioner too, I said, you know, Dave, someday I might like to do that, never thinking I'm going to leave. And I thought I was going to be John Wooden, but I guess, you know, if you look up my record, I didn't quite achieve that.
But I guess I want to say October 28th of 81, we're in practice two weeks, and Dave called, and I made this up, and it's pretty typical of what may have happened. Dave called, and he said, look, I've watched you coach.
I think you should try television. I had two days to decide.
I met with the team and I left for nine games, $800 a game with four children. So it was 7,200 bucks and it just went from there.
ESPN was great. They gave me 25 games.
NBC gave me three or four games at a little larger number. And I went with a bank for almost 20 years, believe it or not.
I didn't hold the bank up, but they let me go any place I wanted to. We were basically the bank of the Giants, the Jets, the Meadowlands.
The casinos were big then in Atlantic City. So we were involved there with the roadways, the highway authorities, all that stuff.
So we were basically salesmen. And that gave me the opportunity.
The next year, I started with the Nets full time. I started with CBS for the first time in 82, 83.
And, you know, that was sort of the way, you know, I did that for some 20-odd years with the Nets. ESPN until 2013, I left to go when Fox started their FS1 Big East coverage.
So I've been really lucky. I mean, you know, not only, you know, career wise, but just amazing people, most of them considerably younger.
And I think that's the big thing, too. You know, you guys are young.
Young people have juice. And I think it's invigorating for a lot of people.
I mean, we get together pregame, you know, the night before. and these kids kids are all smart they love what they're doing uh you know they're great team players so i think all that sort of carries you and keeps you going yeah i think i think a lot of guys when they work in broadcasting as they get older a lot of guys kind of form uh i don't know if it's they're upset with the changes that happen to the game with the way that things are set up or what it is, but they develop kind of like a bitterness to it.
You seem to enjoy watching college basketball more than you ever have. Would you say that's probably because you're around younger people or is that just who you are? I think that's a lot to do with it.
And also, I don't get hung up. They make the rules.
So why bitch about them? Yeah, yeah. The game starts.
You may not like a jump ball, you know, change of possession hour. You may not like that.
But you know what? People at home could care less. I mean, they want to win.
And the other thing, too, you know, the referees, everybody has their angst over them.

And I think you have to say things at times. But basically, sitting at home, you don't want to hear about every call lamenting this or that.
But key calls, yes, I understand that part of it. But I just think the whole, you know, you, you, you come into a town and the thing is so important for two teams, two communities.
And we as a group of TV or radio have to match that. I think that's, that's sort of the key.
Like that thing is as important to you as it is to both those universities. Yeah, yeah it is it's true you make sports fun and I think that when we tune in we want to be it's entertainment at the end of the day that's a lot of what our show is is like you know we know that we can't take ourselves too seriously sports supposed to be fun and you do a great job of making it fun no that's nice of you.
I just feel very fortunate, really.

It's been a nice little ride, as they say.

I think it keeps you young,

keeps you invigorated,

and, you know, the challenge

of staying on top of it

is not much of a

challenge, really. I shouldn't even use that word,

but, you know, the

biggest challenge is getting there, I always

say, and you have to be ready

when you get there, and the coaches Thank you. of a challenge really i shouldn't even use that word but uh you know the biggest challenge is

getting there i always say and you have to be ready when you get there and the coaches button it up or the pre-game practices button it up for you yeah one of the things that you do that i love the most is you you let the viewers know right off the bat if they're playing man-to-man you're right off the bat there's no question about have you ever screwed up a man-to-man call where you say man you know am i playing a two-three zone we uh that'll actually started and i had no idea i was doing it it was to get out of the play-by-play man's way and you, you know, so I would do it quickly,

never thinking I was connecting, you know, the three words.

Yeah.

And over the years, I'd be, like, I remember being at Newark Airport

and this guy is like a couple of feet away and I hear him go,

and I'm going, geez, what a nitwit this guy is.

He says it a couple of times.

I had no idea I was putting the three words together,

but it was more to get out of the play-by-play guy.

Then he identifies who's who and whatever.

So I think everything starts for just maybe you form a habit,

but it just starts because it's convenient or it fits

or you want to be as succinct as possible. I do love whenever they come out in zone and you give them the two, three zone with man to man principles.
Yeah, that was Bayhine. Yeah.
Yeah. You had to throw him off.
Yeah. You can't steal that from me.
Yeah. That was Jimmy.
Unbelievable. When you think of it and what he did too for a career.
Yeah. Who, what, what it's uh but he's amazing it just is relaxed way they just showed up and played and beat people and he kept getting great players yeah what what coach throughout the years have you become closest with or is like you know they're genuinely a friend now uh i i you know i i would say a lot of guys you know really well and you're really comfortable with, but it's not like you're going to dine with them in the spring and summer.
Right. But, you know, it's surprising how close you can get and how open they can be about their other areas of life.

You know, whether it's a Bob Knight telling you something or, you know, John Thompson telling you something that you know you would never use on the air. But, you know, you're comfortable making a phone call and checking in on them, you know, how they're doing when they retire.
And I got, you know, we competed against John pre-Big East and all through the Big East, and I knew him, but almost 10 years of doing the NCAA tournament with him, you know, we had so much time together. It was probably the best time I ever spent with a coach.
we really we hit on things that you would never even think of discussing as a you know a coach tv person or radio person but it was just natural flow of a conversation yeah yeah which teams are you most excited to call in the ncaa tournament the ones you've watched this year that you you're very uh excited to see where they go? You mean this particular season or over the years? Yeah. Like this year, what are you looking at? Well, you know, I'm curious to see how Duke manages with all these young people.
I know they're talented. It's just that, you know, Grant was talking about it this morning.
It's just a different ball of wax, you know. Maybe the first game or two will be one thing, but how they react.
I'm curious to see if the SEC can get three teams in the Final Four, which would be match the, you know, the Big East in 85. Those are a couple of the things.
I think the biggest thing is how kids become stars. Dante DiVincenzo comes to mind a few years back.
He was really a good player, and what he did in that tournament escalated, I should escalate, elevated him to being a draft pick. And obviously now he's a terrific NBA player.
I know he was nicked up recently, but, you know, he had a good run in New York and now Minnesota. Yeah.
But that's the excitement, though. I think we're all of a sudden, you know, Dolan Connect is another one that the world got to see after his play at Tennessee.
Of course, now he's with the Lakers. Yeah, yeah.
Our producer's a big Villanova fan, and he texted us when you came on. He just said, Chris Jenkins, how about those onions, is forever ringing in his head.
So, I mean, that had to have been a thrill. I mean, having a buzzer beater to win a national title is an all-time moment.
The big smooth, you know, the interesting thing about that play, that is a play they had practiced, and it really never got the acclaim that it should have, where Archie Diakono drove at the guy on the right wing and uh uh chris and we couldn't hear it but he went arch arch and then this i call it a slap back you know it's just a pass backwards but the slap back and the presence of mind to know you can knock it down the confidence to take it obviously but uh yeah those those are those make your day i mean as a fan uh you know it's uh keith smart's jumper down in new orleans you know i was on that angle i thought he was behind the backboard when he took that jumper in the corner and yet as the years went saw it. He had a perfect line, and then his momentum carried him behind the backboard.

But those are special moments that, you know, they sort of live forever.

Yeah.

Do you have one that you want back, one that you think about,

keeps you up at night?

Probably coaching-wise more than anything, you know, where you had a game won

and you gave it away kind of a deal, you know.

But let me hold it one second.

That was what my daughter called in.

But not really.

I think, you know, maybe some regrets, maybe some info you thought

would have really resonated and you didn't get it in, or by the time you thought about it, it was too late. The play had moved on, kind of.
But I think I've been fortunate to work with some of the greatest play-by-play guys in the world. And they've all taught me something.
And I think Vern taught me a lot about timing, Vern Lundquist, like without having a conversation. You know, like I always felt like if I have some information that I think would fit at a commercial, I might say something to Vern, and he would say, not yet.
Let's save that. Like his sense of timing was just – in fact, this is digressing for a moment.
We have a Louisville game, and I think Butler – it doesn't matter, but Louisville's upset in this game, an NCAA game. And the ball went to the left, and we're looking that way.
And out of the right, I saw an object flying out of the stands, and it ends up being a flask, but a plastic flask. So it slid across the floor.
It was almost like God ordained it. It came to my feet, you know? So we go to commercial.
I said, Vern, did you ever see that? What? What are you talking about? And I pick up the flask, and I hand it to him. He opens it up, smells it, and he goes, Maker's Mark.
It's not that kind. So we sent it.
I i forget the name i should know to the head then of the committee for the ncaa and thanks for the heavy security during the ncaa tournament you really protected our butts you know yeah anyhow that's digressing a little bit i i got a weird question. Do you remember the first time you were out to maybe breakfast with Jim Nance

and he pulled out a picture of the toast that he keeps in his wallet?

No.

I don't know how it started, but it was like a joke from Jim that got legs. Yeah.
So wait, does he have it? Does he have the picture or no? No. No.
Oh. Wow.
He's never showed me. Okay.
I'm not saying he didn't have it. Yeah.
Because the legend goes that he has a picture of the way he wants toast toasted in his wallet. And he'll pull it out.
And he's actually said it. So he might just be getting a prank on everyone that he pulls it, pulls it out and shows the waiter or waitress being like, this is what I want.
My money would be on, it became a joke, I think. Okay.
You got to ask him, uh, I'm in his arena with this, but, uh, he is, he's got a great sense of humor and he'll go with the

flow kind of you know yeah because he he told the story on dan patrick so i like yeah he's becoming it's become part of the gymnast legend that and giving away the tie yeah have you do you ever do you ever consult with him about the tie when you're when he's when he was about to Give away the tie?

No, but we were the beneficiary of ties every tournament

from Mitchell's in Westport.

Jim had them sent to us every year.

So Ian Eagle doesn't send me squat,

but Jim Hansen used to step up and get us those nice little ties.

Do you ever get upset with Grant Hill because he's such

a Duke homer?

You're like, chill out, Grant.

You know,

do you feel that way on the air?

We've done Duke games.

You know, no question

about his loyalty, but doing

the Duke games, I think

he goes sideways to try and just be just be as even toned as he can he actually does I I don't mind Grant Hill I I like Grant Hill a lot in fact he he does a good job playing it straight down the middle but no matter what happens there's always going to be somebody that thinks that you they hate your team except for you maybe I don't know do people do you ever get people that come up to you like hey why do you hate cal so much right yeah i i you know people uh well generally speaking if they dislike the guys means their team beat them on a regular basis i think right or they got beaten a recruiting deal or sometimes it's just personality that they don't care for but uh you you know, they're fans, so they get upset when things don't go their way frequently. But, you know, it's funny to walk out of a building and the people will say, great job.
You know, they were at the game. They didn't hear you, but their team won, so you did a great job.
Yeah, it's true. That's a very good point everybody everybody means well i mean it's uh you know wide open world out there uh that that's made the college game special yeah so on uh on sunday you're gonna be watching just like everybody else i guess right or do you get do you get the bracket before it comes out no we we'll probably be in the air we'll'll find out i'm sure like with the ipad or something we'll pick up something but uh we uh they let the schools know or you the public and the schools and then that night they decide where we're going you know they have a meeting between turner and cbs all the execs is there anything that you're rooting for? Any specific region you'd like to do? Over the years, it's like you can't go wrong.
You're going to get one or two teams that are going to get to the semis or quarter lead aid. It's like wherever they send you, it's going to you do the same thing at every town you go to.
You know, you're in the gym for eight teams. You know, you have a meeting after to get ready for the next day, have a couple of pops, get up the next day and do the games and come back, sort of chat a little bit, have a couple more pops and get ready for the next day kind of, you know?? Yeah.
Alright, so I have one last question. This has been so much fun.
We really appreciate you joining us. Like I said, we're huge, huge fans.
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So we are on the eve of the tournament. Do you have a team that you've watched and you're like, this team's going to win it all? I know you're not in the predictions business, but do you have a team you're like, that team has everything? You know, I don't know if they have everything, but the obvious chalk I would say would be Duke, Auburn, Alabama.
A team that intrigues me is Florida. Yeah, very good.
They intrigue me because they got size, speed, shooters. Guys, Golden's a hell of a coach.
He did a great job at San Francisco. They're one.
BYU intrigues me. Oh, yeah, they're good out of the blue uh i i do think that houston might be ready and the reason i say that they actually have some guys shooting the ball decently and i think that's big because you know they're going to show up and guard you and beat you on the glass.
And they get extra attempts too, possessions,

which is overlooked frequently, but they're phenomenal that way.

But those are a couple.

Yeah.

I have a very important question for you because it's been one

that I've been thinking about for, I don't know, 15 years.

You're the perfect guy to answer it.

Why do we call it college hoops, but we call it NBA basketball?

Oh, really?

I never even noticed that.

Yeah, it's always college hoops, which I love.

I love saying college hoops.

Right.

I never thought of it.

Now you will.

Now you will.

Yeah.

You'll have to get to the bottom of that for me.

Yeah.

I will.

That's an intriguing inquiry.

Yeah.

Thank you.

I didn't mind searching for facts. Maybe it's an answer that we're not meant to know yeah yeah they're keeping it from us well uh raft thank you so much and uh we look you guys yeah yeah we look forward to august 17th it's it's gonna be bill raftery day on no parade no parade just uh you know a nice little get together yeah Yeah that'd be perfect well thanks so much yeah we're we look forward to hearing from you uh all march you've got it have fun bill raftery was brought to you by venmo we all got venmo venmo is very important this time of year i would say it's maybe the most important time of year for Venmo.
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All right, let's wrap up. We got Fyre Fest of the Week.

Henry.

Yeah.

Oh, your mic's off.

Memes is sabotaging you.

Oh, no.

Memes doesn't want you to have your mic on.

Yeah.

That was bad producing by Oldie there.

Mm-hmm.

Oldie, you got to do a better job of getting Hank's mic on.

Dude, you got to get him on line one right away.

Yeah.

You guys got him on line seven. Memes, change that up.
Wait, wait. Memes has him listed on line seven? Oh, yeah.
I don't even know what this is. We only have one, two, three, four, five.
I'm a first liner. We only have six microphones.
I guess there's technically another one that would be right there. Wow.
Oldie knows more about our show than how to produce our show than we do. Line seven, Hank.
Line seven. That's disrespectful.
That's not going forward okay there we go that's how we fix it yeah appreciate it yeah no problem brother all right let's kick the line seven uh no no big fire fest this week it's a great week the weather's the weather's turning golf season's approaching like i like walking outside and just feeling like you know it's golf weather uh that happened a couple times this week march madness this weekend this weekend. Nothing better.
I did have, this was, this is just gross, and I wish I had something else to use as my Firefest, but I'll just say this one, because it's really the only thing that happened this week that was negative, but I woke up yesterday, went to the gym in my building, sweaty, came down, dropped a deuce, and then went to flush, wasn't working, and then I saw an email from my building that the water was shut down before, until like 6 o'clock at night. So just hung out there all day? So I just had to dry off the sweat, come into work, and then come home like 8 hours later.
Wait, what happened with the deuce? I flushed it like last night. oh yeah oh no just marinating your bathroom it was disgusting i wish i really didn't want to even have to say this because it's gross and that's it that was my fire it was disgusting the it was disgusting the water being shut off that's such a and i want to shower so bad yeah because i remember like in my old apartment in brooklyn they would shut off the water i don't know, like twice a year.
And when they did it, it would be like, how is this possible? How could you shut this water? I'd go buy a bunch of water. They're like, got to get ready.
It's like, yeah, there's no water for four hours, dude. You can handle this.
It was literally, it was 10.05. And I'm like, what happened? I see, I opened up my email and it was like, from 10 to 6.
I was like, if I was just 20 minutes earlier, I was fine. Did you try to turn on the shower? Yeah.
Yeah, and you get the air coming out. That's what you get for working out.
Yeah. That's what I know.
Never again. It's funny because like right after you take a shit, your shit's funny.
And it looks like, I know there's a bunch of group chats that people have. They take a picture.
Look at this gross shit I just took and they sent it. That same shit, if you wait you're horrified by your own poop yeah yeah that's gross it was gross that's gross there's no i really like i said i didn't want to mention it but that's really gross it was gross i think that's really really but hank you know what i got i think i got this yesterday might it even be tuesday the first email from a golf course saying it's that time of year we're opening up this weekend.
No carts, though. You can go out there and walk, but we will have the course available for play on Friday.
That's amazing. Yeah, I think next week, hopefully, if the weather's nice, will be the first round.
Get back out there. What are we shooting this summer? Give me some goals.
Break 85. That's my goal.
By when?

By July.

You know you could just by filling out the card however you wanted to.

It's true.

I'll break 85 first round.

Thanks, man of honor.

I guarantee I shoot 84 first round out this year.

We'll see.

When do you think your first round will be?

Whenever you guys make me do a video.

I'm sure that will come soon. I'm sure you'll be like, hey, we got this awesome sponsor.
And I was thinking maybe we play golf. And I'll say, all right, fine.
These aren't Hank's ideas. I do have fun when I go out.
I just don't have time to go out. It's not Hank's idea that he gets forced into playing golf for work.
Literally. I'm pushing to get Hank into the creator classic.
Yeah. By the way, shout out Trent.
Shout out Trent. Shout out Trent.
It was a performance for the ages. He had the best moments of anybody that golfed yesterday.
The shot that he took on that hill where it looked like his ankle snapped in half. And then he just created a new bunker.
And his ball came to rest in that bunker. It was so funny, so relatable,

and then his performance on 17, it was real-life tin cup.

It was, if you're going to be in that Creator Classic,

and what was the prize?

I don't even know if there was one.

Okay, so if you can't win, you know how the old Ricky Bobby,

if you're not first, you're last?

Listen, in that type of setting, if you're not first, be really, really last because everyone will remember it. And he had the most memorable performance.
And it's literally the creator classic. Yeah, it was incredible.
So he created the best content. And the fact that it's the day before a real golf tournament, which is happening, and there's a non-zero chance that that massive divot that he put in the ground might come into play is one of the greatest greatest storylines going it's a new bunker that he made on that hole and yeah it's uh it's i'd say likely that somebody will find themselves in or around that divot that he took yeah yeah that's huge that was huge that's a huge divot like i mean you could almost if you brought in a tree or you could put a new shrub in there yeah put it right in but what was the full full total distance like you know the science facts when they show like the ball the the ball tracker the trigger like how many would that be like point i think you went backwards i think it was negative it was had to have been negative he lost i think the ball went backwards he lost and then it's another stroke so it just keeps adding up and adding and how i'd like to also see the total distance on every shot that he took on 17 like how far you it's a 130 yard hole i think he probably hit like 700 yards worth of shots on that hole yeah it was great but it was it was so i was so happy for him when when it landed he said he only had two balls left the guy grant horvat he's not a professional golfer no his name is a professional golfer you're thinking there's a guy named horvath isn't oh yeah billy horvath or something billy horschel maybe billy horschel but yeah i thought the same thing for a little when i saw it i was just like wait a second how's this guy in this he's just he should be a professional golfer that's a professional golfer's name i agree like that grant horvath if you see grant hor he's you know 12th in the fedex cup standings i'm like yeah that makes sense yeah yeah i think he's like the biggest youtube golfer he was really good but i just i couldn't believe that and he looks like a professional golfer he should be a professional golfer yeah i don't know if his game's there but he checks those trending upwards the look in the name professional golfer yeah uh shout Shout out Kyle Berkshire.
Sorry that I wasn't on his bag.

He asked me to be on his bag.

I accepted to be on his bag in the video, but things come up at part of my take, and

we had interviews and stuff this week, so I couldn't make it down there.

It would have been fun, though.

Pete, that could have been me.

That could have been me on his bag, too.

Oh, yeah.

I'll send you next time.

1,469%. I would go.
I know. He loved you.
You started that number. You didn't know where it was going.
Oh, no. It ended, though.
It finally ended because it would have been worse. If it didn't end, it would be like .001 and 6 and 7 and stuff.
Well, we'll be on Hank's back next year. There's something brewing.
Yes, yes. This is a problem.
PFT, I don't think you were here for this conversation.

Max, for some reason, is like pushing for him to be in the creator classic.

And I said, well, then he has to practice a ton.

And Max was like, but that would be great.

He could practice more.

I think Hank paid off Max.

I was watching Trent. I think Max is going to ask for a vacation or something.

Yeah, there's something.

Something is up.

Windy fingers.

You just saying, Hank, I want you to golf more. Either that or he's trying to push you out.
No. Wrong.
I like what he's saying, but I also am a little wary. I was watching Trent struggle thinking how awesome it would be if I was watching Hank struggle.
Max? Because Hank would have taken it so much worse and been so much more upset. that like that's is when Hank is playing poorly in golf and I can just look at his face.
Why couldn't we get you in the Creator Classic? I know we're not a golf channel, but we're the number one sports podcast. We can't be like, hey, this guy should be in it.
I doubt it. I bet you we can.
PFT should do it. Next year, we're getting Hank in.
Also, I'm now putting it all together. Max wants your seat because now he has Oldie, who knows the one through sevens on the mic.
This was yesterday. Oldie can produce.
It sounds like you're scared. Yeah.
The thing is, time moves really quickly. Time does move quickly.
You're scared, Hank. Definitely.
Yeah. He did.
He was scared because he sipped a drink there. It was like a nervous why is what does time moving quickly have to do with it well all of a sudden he's uh seventh line and he shouldn't be the seventh line that's true you know what i mean that's right matter of fact last time i was here wasn't he on holidays as well he was not i was on holiday how much time this guy gonna get like i didn't ask for more ask for more time.
Sorry I wanted to see Hank fail in front of millions of people. But Hank was here.
I was with Hank, and you weren't here. I'm talking about Cole.
That's a good point. Don't let them put us against each other.
I think it's already happened. No, no, no.
We're too big. We're on the same side here.
We're on the same side. Yeah, we are.
We're too big bros this year. You don't want to roll with us.
2v2. Cut him out.
Cut him out. Yeah, cut him out.
I'll keep an eye on this guy. Yeah, okay.
Keep your hands above. Also, I love that one of the biggest storylines in the players this weekend is that they moved a tree.
Yeah. It's so cool.
Big tree. There was an iconic tree that blocked your tee shot on, I think, 11, and the tree went away because it was dying, and they found a perfect tree to take its place, picked it up and move the tree into the tree box.
And now everybody's super proud of the tree there. Yeah.
Like have you seen the tree yet? My fire fest of the week. There's a couple, one is actually not my fire fest, but I think it's a fire fest for all guys in general.
Okay. And this comes to us from a good friend, coworker hubs and hubs tweeted this out last night did you see this thing no i didn't uh he said my fiancee just asked me with a straight face when was the first time i dunked she just assumed throughout our entire relationship i've been dunking with stunned beyond belief when i said none of my friend group can do it i wonder how fast she thinks i can throw a baseball hubs is probably about my height and he's bringing to light the the fact that a lot of women just think that all men can dunk yeah and so it's like when did you first dunk like when did you first learn how to ride a bike and uh this is this is bad for guys this is bad this is i'll tell you what it's even worse when you when you have kids because it doubles where like my my son has asked me like did you play with him? Like he'll meet a hockey player or NBA player and be like, did you play with him? I'm like, no, I did not.
I did not play with him. I did not play professional sports.
That's not what – yeah, I remember when I first took him to a Blackhawks game last year and he got to meet Wayne Gretzky and then I told him he was the best hockey player of all time. He has the most goals, soon to be OV.
He asked me, he's like, how many goals did you score in the NHL? Yeah. Kids assume that every adult guy is either a former professional athlete, maybe a former firefighter, maybe a police officer, maybe an astronaut.
Yeah. And you're like, no, I sit behind a mic and fart.
I'm a podcaster. But yeah, so I didn't know this until Hubs tweeted out.
And then a lot of people replied saying, yeah, I asked my girlfriend or wife. And a lot of women just think all guys can dunk.
Yeah, that's bad. That's very bad, Hank.
Yeah, it seems easier than it is. It does seem easier than it is, doesn't it? Yeah, you were basically a chick a year ago.
Yeah. I'll be able to dunk.
How would you that question when when when was the last time you could dunk would you say I almost dunked I'm probably I'd say coming up soon soon I haven't peaked yet yeah I would just say like last time I when was last time I played 2k like four years ago I don't have a trampoline in my yeah little basketballs hoops all the time yeah um and Fest is actually Fyre Fest. Fyre Fest 2.
It's happening. Oh, yeah.
It's happening. Hell, yes.
In Isla Mujeres, Mexico. Allegedly, it's happening.
I think it's May 30th. And they've got all these packages.
I was looking on the website. There's one.
You can buy a ticket for a million dollars. They have a million-dollar package that purchase they haven't announced who's playing so before i spent the million dollars on the ticket i hit up billy mcfarland the guy that runs firefest i was like hey what does the lineup look like and he told me he wanted to announce dmx but they wouldn't let him yet dmx died like four years ago he was joking that was a joke that was a jokeFarlane.
But he did say, because I said, either I or somebody at Barstool should go to Fyre Fest 2. And he said that he will give us a ticket if we want to go.
May 30th. I don't.
I don't. You don't want to go to Mexico? It would be cool.
We'll send Oldie as a correspondent. Yeah, Oldie as our correspondent.
Oh, man. Do side pouches out on the beach.
You want to go to Fyre Fest 2? Oh, absolutely. Well, if it's 2, that means one was already rocking and rolling then.
So it's got to be good. Yeah, that's exactly what happened with one.
They're running it back. I mean, I know that a lot of people.
We might have to send him as our international correspondent because you are international. Yeah.
If I can get you a ticket, would go would you go you can't deny the ticket that's like you like my only concern with sending oldie is like he would make it fun and i think people like that was an awesome time because there was this canadian dude that was making everyone you know go balls to the wall yeah so um there's also there have been a couple denials from the local authorities some people saying that it's not happening i'm choosing to believe billy until like what is what has billy done to make me doubt him does he still have the dude that will suck dick for water he should be there yeah that's a guy that you want on your team all-time guy imagine that's giving the guy all the water and then you still got to give him a like a heavy dagger you thought like okay cool this guy's water. They're going to be fine now.
He's like, no. Gawk, gawk, gawk, gawk, gawk.
You're like, what? That's exactly how it would go. So yeah, we'll try to get, if this happens, I do want Oldie to go.
That would be fun. Wait a minute.
Wait a minute. What? I'm looking at the accommodations right now.
Part of it, it says the luxury room, which i believe is the million dollar room will contain a minimum of one bed a minimum fuck yeah they're doing a good job that's for the lug the luxury package you get a minimum of one bed or two double beds at the guest choice at least it's not zero beds yeah that which makes me believe that there are there's probably some that have zero beds like if you yes if you say minimum of one bed though and there's not a bed like that's a problem yeah is the bed the bed's going to be a blow up it's not going to be a soft yeah probably they'll get the guy that sucked dick for water coming there and blow up where is that as well where is it uh i think it's isla mujarris yeah isla mujarris it's a tropical island off Cancun, Mexico. Oh, okay.
I thought that was the Jurassic Park Island the first time I heard it. Yeah.
Okay. Well, to be continued.
All right. My Fire Fest is just the...
It's an age one. I don't know.
We are two days into true March Madness conference tournament week. There's nothing worse.
I woke up this morning feeling like absolute dog shit, and it was not like sick, tired. And then I had the moment of, what did you do yesterday? Oh, yeah, you sat on a couch and watched TV all day.
And it's the most pathetic feeling ever to be like, I'm mentally and physically wiped from watching basketball. Sometimes when, like, the less you work out, the tireder you get.
Oh, yeah. It's big time.
What do you think about getting some of those, you know, the little pedals that you put under your desk? Yeah. What if we just had those in the cave? Oh, remember the ad machine I put on for a podcast once? Maybe we get those.
I mean, we should try to get some workouts in because yeah it was uh it's just it's we're two days in and i'm already feeling uh and i know i'll be fine because i this is my favorite time of the year but it's just like pathetic it's absolutely pathetic that that sitting and watching basketball can can mentally and physically drain me you got a long two weeks long two weeks this is march fight against you every day yeah tooth and nail hank by the way, uh, faded me, too. Long two weeks.
This is March. And I got to fight against you every day.
Yeah. Tooth and nail.
Hank, by the way, faded me when I lost. And then yesterday I won, and he didn't fade me.
Isn't that weird? You didn't fade him yesterday? Yeah, but isn't that weird that it was the day I won? Yeah. Well, I missed.
He really is a commenter who's just like halfway through a game like bad bet. No, I'm not.
Everything I do, I tell you what I'm doing. But you said you were going to fade me, and then I won.
Well, yesterday I was doing stuff, and I missed the early games, and I didn't want to hop in. Hop in.
Got it. Got it.
But it's just interesting. Like the day I lose, you faded me.
The day I won, you didn't. Yeah, good luck.
You're like Jim Cramer. You're good at timing the market.
I'm a lucky guy. Yeah.
All right, Oldie, you're fire fest. It's been a decent week for me, so a good start.
Early, early on this morning, though, the flight in, first off, half an hour delayed plane maintenance. So I'm thinking, oh, here we go.
Now I'm not even going to make it. Have you guys ever had to buy a bug spray on a plane no why wait you bought it on a plane well i had to i was so far back like my knees were wedged in the back there was mosquitoes flies what right beside the washroom yeah like you guys appreciate you flying me down earlier this morning wait yours mosquitoes on the plane they must be so confused i don't know i don't know why they put me back so far in the seats i'm beside the washroom it smells like you know when you go and drink the next morning and it's reeks of like bad alcohol yeah the washroom i was beside the washroom there were actual so did you get bug spray yeah because there was bugs and shit all over the place wait where can you buy bug spray the stewardess helped me out she had bug spray yeah because she knows how bad the airline is that I flew in on that she knows it's not good back there.

So you sprayed the bug spray on yourself on the plane?

Yeah, to keep the mosquitoes and flies off me.

That's concerning to me that the stewardess had bug spray on the plane.

She must have known.

She knew.

That's the flight I took.

What airline?

Can't do that.

Why? That's not nice. What does it rhyme with? This is going to be a while to figure out a rhyme.
No, I don't know. I don't know.
You don't know what to do. You look at me like I knew the airline.
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
I had no bug spray. I'm just bullshitting you guys here.
Oh, so what happened? No, I was in. The only disappointing thing was I walked past the first class and then i was in the middle class yeah yeah i thought maybe i would be with the other people wait so there was no mosquitoes no mosquitoes i'm just joking but look look what i did have to get look here i gotta show you live max we'll see here photos this is the roll roll your own dice when you're looking at photos here no you're good here i won't look until you're ready for me to look.
Look at me. Look at my feet.
Look how much feet room I didn't have. I know.
I take off my shoes. Taking off your shoes off, guy? There's by Toronto.
Oh, I had to. That's true.
That's true. Clean socks.
Donuts? Yeah, it's disgusting here. Wedge them in their seatbelts.
Wait, you had an open seat next to you? Yeah. What? That's amazing.
That's an incredible flight. Are you puking? I didn't feel good on the plane.
It was rough. He showed me pictures.
Now he showed a picture of him in the doggy bag. Picture of him in the bathroom.
Barely even move in the washroom. Look, if you guys don't believe, look at that.
How much more tight is this plane? Anyone watching on the YouTube will be able to see all these photos. And then look at these.
I don't know

if that's a party section. What's that?

We could use that face. There's a party section?

It's like a little... He did a full

photo shoot on this plane.

Sick guys. Great ride.

Look at that. Couldn't get any closer

to the ship. I know.
I know. That's tough.

When you go through security and you go

through that big machine that scans you, do they ever stop you afterwards and they're like sir please empty your pockets and they check your crotch the pouch no no no i had to do that today i put my hands up i guess my hands weren't high enough above so i said when my hands go from here do they go from behind them out to my back and she says no i said i'm not getting arrested i said i'm not well i don't have to do this right I don't know what that scan really does. Yeah, I think he's just checking to see if you have anything on you.
Yeah. All right, well, so no bugs, but good trip.
We're happy you're here. Good trip.
I'm glad I'm here. This is awesome.
This is great. Yeah, tune into the stream.
So oldie will be watching college basketball with us. Oh, I can't wait to bump and grind with you guys out here.
This is going to be one heck of a week. How's the snow situation in Canada right now? Starting to melt.
Nice. Starting to melt.
Do you get a little sad, though, because that means the plow's going away for the season? The only thing I miss, to be honest, pushing snow back and burying people's driveways in is just absolutely laying on the horn. When someone's in front of you or behind you, just go dizzy with it.
Let it go. So when you're not plowing the snow when there's no snow out there what do they have you doing oh filling potholes i was filling potholes all week it wasn't good that sounds like a lot more work than driving the snow truck yeah that's what i mean you're in the truck you can just bang on the horn you know pump the tunes here you're in now it's in now filling potholes people yelling at you telling you don't know how to fix the potholes the lady told me what are you doing stopping the truck filling the potholes i said because it's got to fill the hole she's like well you don't know what you're doing i said well then you get out and show me she says well my husband owns a construction company well then tell him to get his ass over here like i don't care you're driving your audio out of here lady get your ass out of here move on you remember that house snowmen you're not filling my hole right My husband does a way Audi out of here, lady.
Get your ass out of here. Move on.
You remember that house.

Snow him in.

You're not filling my hole right.

My husband does a way better job of filling that hole.

Yeah.

You know what I say?

I said it for years now.

Laugh now.

Cry later, sweetheart.

Yeah.

You won't be able to get that Audi out.

Never.

Never.

Hank drives an Audi.

Yeah, but he's like a bigger, better Audi.

She was like a Q3 thinking like she's big time. Is that what you drive? That's exactly exactly Hank's.
Hank, you drive a chick car? What's wrong with a Q3? Would you say an Audi's a chick car? Great on gas. Let's put it that way.
Okay, that's a chick car. That means that's a chick car.
But Hank's got a sick grill. He just upgraded it.
Yeah. All right.
Let's do numbers. Finish off with numbers.

17.

33.

I got to go 61 here.

77.

One.

99.

Pug.

Good odds.

Someone's going to get it.

77.

A lot of.

I took 77.

Lil Jackie. Lil Jackie.
He took it. I took 77.
Lil Jackie.

Lil Jackie.

P took 7.

32.

Also, for everyone out there, his name is now Lil Jackie.

It's Lil Jackie until he proves he's the man.

Until he fights Shane.

Correct.

Agree.

42.

42. Jackie Robinson.
42. 42.

Jackie Robinson.