Adam Schefter, Reporter Fights In Indy, National Sports Podcast News + Fyre Fest

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Speaker 1 See Mintmobile.com. On today's part of my take, we have our yearly sit-down with our good friend Adam Schefter

Speaker 1 from Indianapolis. We're also going to talk about a little dust-up in the reporter world in Indy, Combine Week.
Nerd Fight. Nerd Fight.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about the report cards coming out for some teams, for the NFL team report cards.

Speaker 1 We have

Speaker 1 Firefest of the week. We're going to wrap up the whole week.
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The crown is yours. Today is Friday, February 28th.

Speaker 1 And we have a reporter fight. PFT, you are on the scene.
Boots on the ground. You stayed in India an extra day.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I got bullied to stay another night.

Speaker 6 because I had a poor showing night one of the combine. We all went home pretty early because we're old.
We're washed. Went home at about 10 p.m.
on Tuesday night.

Speaker 6 So decided to stick around, and I'm very glad that I did just for this little juicy nugget.

Speaker 6 So what happened was I was having some drinks with friend of the program, Mike Silver,

Speaker 8 and a slew of Michael.

Speaker 6 Michael Silver, a slew of reporters and agents came downstairs and they were all a buzz about essentially a melee that happened in the Starbucks. Talking Malice in the Palace?

Speaker 6 It was worse than Malice in the Palace.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 So they came down and they were like, we just saw the craziest thing ever. And it was an extension of a Twitter fight that happened earlier in the day.

Speaker 6 So it all stems from the report that Jordan Schultz had

Speaker 6 that Matt Stafford and Tom Brady went on a nice little cozy ski vacation together. Matt Stafford, it is kind of, you'll see a pattern with him.

Speaker 6 He went to Cabo with Sean McVay before he became a Ram. That was also a coincidence that they happened to run into each other.
Just happened to see each other.

Speaker 6 So in this case, he happened to run into Tom Brady at a ski resort, and Schultz was saying that they talked about the future, things like that.

Speaker 6 And then Ian Rappaport came over the top and said, I'm told that this was just a coincidence. They both go vacation together sometimes.
They did not talk about plans for the future.

Speaker 1 So Jordan Schultz was essentially reporting that Tom Brady almost like hosted Matthew Stafford to come out. Yes.
And that would be tampering.

Speaker 6 At his quaint little fitness, well, it was a fitness vacation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and a fitness vacation. And Ian Rappaport was like, no, that was actually

Speaker 1 a coincidental. They see each other.

Speaker 1 Which, by the way, I know the Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford thing, I know it seems implausible to have these two guys just run into each other, but I do think that we don't realize what the insane, insane, wealthy athletes, like they only have a couple places they can go to have, like, be totally private.

Speaker 1 So it's not totally crazy they would run into each other.

Speaker 6 I mean, can you imagine the coincidence level, though, if like you and I happen to run into each other on vacation?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm just not buying it. I don't think that's possible.
But I do think there's I think Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford are probably vacationing in a place that we could never get to.

Speaker 6 I think that's probably correct. Yes.
So they according to rap report, they just happened to be at the same place, didn't talk about the future, didn't talk about playing for the Raiders.

Speaker 6 The interesting part though is that Jordan Schultz works for Fox.

Speaker 6 And so he was saying, like, he was telling on his

Speaker 6 co-worker, Tom Brady. Okay.
And then that got people all in a tizzy at at the Combine, too. This is the level of nerdiness that happens at the Combine.

Speaker 6 Everyone's like, wow, I can't believe he's going after his own co-worker like that.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 6 that was earlier in the day. Apparently, Schultz ran into Ian Rapport at the Starbucks.
This would never happen out of Stella Blue. Nope.
Violence-free.

Speaker 1 Also, real quick, so it was at a Starbucks, Jordan Schultz. There's no relation to.

Speaker 6 That's what's interesting. Oh, okay.
His dad was the CEO

Speaker 1 of Starbucks. Maybe not founder, but he was the guy.

Speaker 6 He was the Starbucks guy. Yeah.
And also the Sonics guy. His dad was the guy that took the Sonics away.
Yeah. So

Speaker 6 they get into a little argument there. Jordan Schultz walks up to Ian and says, we have to talk.
Ian says, I don't think we have to talk about anything.

Speaker 6 Jordan Schultz then says, like, you need to back the fuck off because you're talking about me behind my back.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 Throws in a couple F-bombs. Okay.
Then Rappaport was like, I'm not talking about you behind your back. Apparently, this is what the scuttlebutt was.
Okay.

Speaker 6 Schultz was saying that Ian Rappaport is going behind his back and telling people that Jordan Schultz gives agents Uber stock in exchange for scoops.

Speaker 1 Uber stock? Uber stock.

Speaker 6 I don't know how this got involved.

Speaker 1 Like a lot of stock or

Speaker 1 uber amount of Starbucks stock?

Speaker 6 No, like Uber stock is what. The car.
Somehow Schultz thought that Rappaport was telling people that he was giving people Uber stock. Okay.
I talked to Rappaport.

Speaker 6 Ian Rappaport has never told anybody that they get Uber stock, but now it's. According to Ian Rappaport.
But per sources. Well, that also.

Speaker 1 But now it has me thinking, like,

Speaker 1 if you're Jordan Schultz and you're accusing someone of that, it feels like it could be true.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 6 I don't think that Ian actually said anything like that. He's probably said some other things about Jordan Schultz behind his screen.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying it could be true that Ian Rapport's saying it. I'm saying if you're going around defending and being like, hey, I'm not giving Uber stock to people.
It raises a lot of people.

Speaker 1 I didn't even say anything about Uber stock.

Speaker 6 Yeah, my not involved in human trafficking t-shirt is making people ask a lot of questions that are already answered by my t-shirt.

Speaker 1 Correct, correct.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 6 there was a dust-up. There was a fracas.

Speaker 6 He got in his face, apparently. I'm going to read...
Mike Florio's report.

Speaker 1 I knew Florio was going to get involved. Yeah, so

Speaker 6 this is per pro football talk. If you have anything to say to me, say it to my fucking face, Schultz said, or specific words to that effect.

Speaker 6 If this continues, we're going going to have a fucking problem.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy.

Speaker 6 If this happens again, we're going to have a fucking problem, Schultz said, or specific words to that effect. I love that reporting by Stario.

Speaker 6 Now I'll step back. So, got in his face.
There were like, I don't know, five or ten people that just witnessed it straight up happen.

Speaker 6 And then after he walked away, Raport notified NFL Security. Ooh.
Called the cops or Raj McDell on him.

Speaker 6 And per sources.

Speaker 1 What does that mean? Well,

Speaker 6 he called NFL security and was like, hey, there was a confrontation.

Speaker 1 There's a fruckus.

Speaker 6 According to Rapaport, but why?

Speaker 6 He called the NFL security because it was witnessed by so many people.

Speaker 6 He knew that somebody would have reported it, and he wanted to talk to them instead of them calling him in a day and him having to give his side of the story.

Speaker 1 Per rap report.

Speaker 6 I think we just settled this.

Speaker 9 Is that something NFL security would be concerned about?

Speaker 6 They are investigating. There's an active, ongoing investigation.

Speaker 1 I don't know how I feel about this.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 6 I think I know how I feel about it. Rough and rowdy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 That'd be good. Let's settle it in the ring.

Speaker 1 Rapport, I did see him earlier in the day. He was wearing a pretty sick shark backpack that's not like the one he was wearing a few years ago.
It's like all blacked out shark. New shark?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a new shark. He looks good.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think I'm on Rapport's side until the police get involved. NFL Security gets involved.

Speaker 6 That was not a good move.

Speaker 1 Like, he should have probably just, instead of calling NFL Security, should have just blew on his rape whistle. What I

Speaker 6 what I would have done is I would have just simply gotten punched in the face and then made a fuckload of money. True.

Speaker 1 Good point.

Speaker 6 This is maybe Uber stock.

Speaker 1 This is just such a hilarious, like they're having a source off. They're fighting in a Starbucks.

Speaker 1 No actual physical contact was made. Just bad words said back and forth.
And I think Jordan Schultz told Florio he did not say any bad words.

Speaker 6 He said he didn't recall using all that profanity. Now, I do have a picture.
Do you want to see the picture of the conversation?

Speaker 1 I would love to see a picture of the conversation. Wait, you were there? I was not there.
Okay, you got... Yeah, because I want video of this.

Speaker 6 I don't think that there was any video. This is the only picture that I know that exists.
And it's perfect because the Starbucks sign is right above Jordan Schultz's head.

Speaker 1 Also, they look like they're not in a fight at all.

Speaker 6 Schultz is smiling.

Speaker 1 He's his hands on his hips.

Speaker 6 He is towering over Rappaport.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And that appears to be Jeremy Fowler next to them as well.

Speaker 1 Listen, it's always good when a couple of reporters get in a little fruckus over a a source-off.

Speaker 6 It's good. This is good sport.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Get the buzz going. If there's the lamest fight ever, I'll say that right now.

Speaker 6 If there was an NFL insider Royal Rumble, I'd take Jake Lazer.

Speaker 1 What about our guy Prisco?

Speaker 6 I don't know that he's an insider. He's a home guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he would fuck some people up.

Speaker 6 If he heard that there was a journalist fight, he'd show up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, Jake Lazer obviously is 1-1 draft pick. I think he's 1-1.

Speaker 6 I feel like I'd take Schefter over Rapsheet.

Speaker 6 He's a sturdier boy.

Speaker 1 I'd agree with that.

Speaker 6 Fowler is big. He's got a reach issue.
That's going to be tough to deal with.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Rossini got like seven red cards in college.

Speaker 6 She's a dog.

Speaker 1 She's violent. She's a dog.

Speaker 1 She could dog it up. Rob Lowe.

Speaker 1 Rob Lowe's an insider, yeah.

Speaker 6 Insider. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not exactly the who's who of guys who should be fighting. I would imagine both these guys probably haven't been in a fist fight.
No.

Speaker 1 It's just so funny that he called the the NFL security on someone, on another reporter. Reporter on reporter crime.
Yeah, but this is. What do you think the NFL security is like?

Speaker 1 They're like, dude, are you serious? Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1 We have like 150 college prospects here. We got to make sure that everything goes without incident.
And you're calling about a source off at a Starbucks?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think they have bigger fish to fry than two guys that will never fight. And if they did fight, would probably not do any damage to each other.
No,

Speaker 1 they should have a debate. I would like to see a debate.

Speaker 1 Who do you guys think is right about the the brady stafford interaction i find it i find it hard to believe that they just showed up at the same vacation and we're like oh this is a weird coincidence i don't think though but i see that's what i'm saying i don't know if it's that weird of a coincidence when it's like i i'm pretty sure they they what's the club called there's the it's the

Speaker 1 big sky yeah it's like there's a club where you have to buy a home to be part of the club and the homes are like ten million dollars yeah so it's like zuckerberg and brady and so just to be in that room, you have to be the wealthiest of wealthy.

Speaker 1 So that's where

Speaker 1 that's where I'm like, it actually could happen in my mind because it's not like they saw each other at Disney World. You know what I mean? They ran into each other at Times Square.

Speaker 6 It's a weird coincidence that the owner of a team that is looking to get a quarterback and a quarterback who is looking to be traded from his team happen to be at the same place hanging out.

Speaker 1 It is a weird coincidence for sure. But I just think that these, these,

Speaker 1 like the crazy, crazy wealthy and stars. So what does it say? Yeah, home purchase price of $3 million or more and initial membership due of $400,000 plus annual costs.

Speaker 1 Not a lot of people get in that.

Speaker 9 Zuckerberg, Bill Gates.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is who we're talking about. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 6 I know this club exists. I just think that

Speaker 6 I think the two of them were having a little rendezvous on the slope.

Speaker 1 But do you think, I guess really, the only thing would be, do you think that there was an explicit invitation?

Speaker 1 That would be where it's tampering, where if Brady was like, hey, come out here, or was it

Speaker 1 they happened to see each other, or maybe someone tipped off one of the sides being like, hey, I think Stafford's there. Hey, I think Brady's there.

Speaker 1 Then they might have met up.

Speaker 6 The rules don't apply to Tom Brady, though. So he'll probably get away with it, or he'll smash his phone before it gets confiscated.

Speaker 1 I think if you can prove that Tom Brady was like, hey, I'm going to be at Yellowstone Club, come out for the weekend, then that's tampering. Otherwise, it's going to be hard to prove.

Speaker 1 Does that feel fair?

Speaker 6 It's going to be very hard to prove.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 For sure. Yeah.
And especially since Stafford has kind of been given permission to look for a trade and feel out where his next location is going to be.

Speaker 1 Is that tampering?

Speaker 6 Everybody's going to be tampering with him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Is that because he's been

Speaker 1 set in the wild where he can go try to talk to people? Is that technically tampering you?

Speaker 6 I think they have an open relationship right now. The Romans and Matt Stafford.
So Tom Brady just cracked the garage out at the Yellowstone Club.

Speaker 1 Put a pineapple on the front lawn.

Speaker 6 Yeah, got his pineapple

Speaker 6 snowboard out. And yeah, just had a little conversation.

Speaker 1 It is kind of crazy, the whole Tom Brady situation.

Speaker 1 It does feel like this is what, the third or fourth time something has happened. It's like, just figure it out.
The rules don't apply. Just figure it out.

Speaker 1 Figure out the rules, NFL.

Speaker 1 Goodell would... You'd think he'd want to go after Brady for something like this.
Right.

Speaker 6 It is funny, though, that Schultz works for Fox and then he was tattling on his coworker. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Although, there's 0% chance that if you asked Tom Brady, is Jordan Schultz your coworker?

Speaker 10 He'd say yes.

Speaker 1 Correct. There's no way he's like, oh yeah, that's my coworker.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Unless Tom Brady owns like half of Uber. Then he'd be like, yeah, we're doing a lot of business together.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I see the stock going being traded every single day.

Speaker 6 It's such a funny accusation, though, that this guy's giving out Uber stock in exchange for scoops. All right.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 do we have a conclusion to it? Is there anything,

Speaker 2 anything else from it?

Speaker 6 My conclusion was that everybody did you ask raport if they'd fight him i did not ask him if he'd fight him i i taught he was the first person he stepped like into this room at this party i was at after i had tweeted it out and the story had just broken i was the first person he saw he was like you motherfucker i was like hey i'm just doing my job here yeah i'm gonna jump into you you got a job i'm a journalist just like you yeah i didn't name any names i was gonna let it come out but yeah it was uh it was quite a night that's hilarious also saw big dom i got to be big dom for big dom i I introduced him to somebody.

Speaker 6 I was like, this guy's going to take care of him.

Speaker 1 My Paisons. Yeah.
We'd seen him earlier in the day with Nick Sirana coming Monday. Max, good job on that interview.
Thanks.

Speaker 2 You guys tried to fuck me, but thanks.

Speaker 6 Nah, I don't think so. I think we just remembered facts.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we also had the NFL report cards come out.

Speaker 1 I feel like they used to have more anecdotes from these. Now it just feels like a straight report card.
Yeah. I needed more anecdotes.

Speaker 1 I needed more like, oh yeah, the Jaguars, like, I tried to get a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and there was a cockroach on it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I remember those.

Speaker 6 It was like small blurbs from each one.

Speaker 1 There was a couple blurbs. One for your owner, Hank.
Yep. Robert Craft's plane is not up to snuff.
Yep. Ashtrays.

Speaker 9 I mean, if you're, like, if I, personally, me, if I buy a private jet, like, I'm keeping it for probably a long time.

Speaker 1 But ashtrays is wild. Like, seeing ashtrays anywhere is kind of a wild.
Wild, like, 1993, 1994. Yeah, you can get new seats put in.

Speaker 9 That's probably true.

Speaker 6 How crazy is it that you used to just be allowed to smoke on airplanes?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I can't even imagine that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's crazy. Or restaurants.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, bars. I remember when it was, what was like 2008, maybe? It was band everywhere.
Yeah. I remember the last night.
It was like, I think it was, in Illinois, it was two.

Speaker 1 I think I remember being at a bar and everyone was just like smoking cigarettes because they're like, tomorrow you can't do this anymore.

Speaker 6 Yeah. In Virginia, I would go to bars sometimes.

Speaker 6 This is when I was like under underage, but I would go to see a band or something, and then your hair would just smell like cigarettes for three days, no matter what you did after that. Get bands.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's wild. Well, they had the smoking section, which was just a table that was right next to the non-smoking section.
I got it.

Speaker 1 2008. I remember, yeah, just everyone was just, everyone was like, even people who don't smoke, like, this is our last chance.
Got to do it. Yeah, you just come home reeking of cigarettes.

Speaker 1 Reeking of cigarettes.

Speaker 6 So the Patriots got an F for team travel. The Bills got an F minus

Speaker 6 for team travel. Again, that's not a real grade.
An F- doesn't exist. Doesn't this?

Speaker 6 It's all Fs, but they got an F minus for travel. The players aren't happy with the travel accommodations for away games.

Speaker 6 I think it's just that the Bills miss being in Buffalo when they're on the road. Probably.
They're just like, there's no wing nuts here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 F-.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then there was

Speaker 1 kind of insulting. They should have just did like a

Speaker 1 N-A for the only coaches that got a C or worse

Speaker 1 were the Bears and the Jaguars because obviously this poll was done, I think it was like August to November. This is Doug Peterson and Matt Eberflus.
That felt mean.

Speaker 1 You could just say, you know, coaching change. It doesn't count anymore.
Because they're sitting there minding their business, like, oh, fuck, my team really hated me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because C was the worst. C was an F.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the Eagles also had an F for team travel.

Speaker 6 They don't like the travel system. Got to fix that.

Speaker 1 Got to fix that. I like this poll because it's, I mean, the commanders got way better at a bunch of stuff.
Well, last year's team,

Speaker 1 they basically get embarrassed publicly. Yeah.
And then they fix it.

Speaker 6 Last year, the commanders got an F minus for treatment of families. And I would say that that's probably the category that you do not want to get an F minus in.

Speaker 6 That seems to be a pretty important one.

Speaker 1 That really is just breastfeeding rooms.

Speaker 6 They have a daycare facility now. Yeah.
Which is good. Otherwise, it was just like: if you are playing in the game, bring your kids to the stadium and it's just let them go.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't understand how anyone owns a team and gets anything worse than like a B on any of these things. If I had that much money and I owned a team, I'd be tricking out everything.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like everything.

Speaker 1 I'd have the sickest locker room possible.

Speaker 6 Yeah, locker rooms. There were a lot of negative comments about locker rooms.

Speaker 1 I'd also have a locker in the locker room.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I would like, I would time up my workouts so that

Speaker 1 I was like changing when all the guys came off the field, being like, man,

Speaker 1 what a great practice we had.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so the last place was the Cardinals, I believe. I think they had the worst grades overall.

Speaker 6 The Jets, memes,

Speaker 6 memesy. F for ownership.

Speaker 1 Bad. Is that Brick or Woody? I think that's Woody.
That's Woody.

Speaker 6 Brick is the future. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bad. That is bad.
It looks like the players turned on the owner and the grading. It is such a funny concept, like where

Speaker 1 they probably, obviously, when they see Woody Johnson in the hallway, they're nice as possible. And then they're like, yeah, he's an F.

Speaker 1 Absolute F. And he sees it.
He's like, what the hell? I thought those guys liked me.

Speaker 6 I thought you you guys were my friends.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We were talking game.

Speaker 6 The Patriots got an F for their weight room.

Speaker 1 Got to get that weight room fixed.

Speaker 6 I think Frabe's going to take care of that.

Speaker 6 Day one.

Speaker 1 I don't understand how you have a bad weight room. I don't understand how you have a bad any of these things.
Am I crazy for saying that?

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, you're not crazy.
Yeah, like, remember a couple years ago, the Bengals, it was like they didn't do food on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Yeah.
How is that possible? I know how it's possible.

Speaker 1 The owner's cheap, but I just don't understand. I can't conceptualize an owner of a football team being like, our players don't get to eat on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

Speaker 9 Weight room and fitness. Right.
That's how you build the team.

Speaker 1 Right. Like, you can't control coach, you know, if they don't like the coach.
Obviously, if strength coaching, you hire the wrong guy. But yeah, like, locker room, food, weight room, that's so easy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It has to be so easy.

Speaker 6 Dan Campbell had 100% approval rating. Love that.
As a head coach. I believe Dan Quinn did too.

Speaker 1 I think Raheem Morris also was very highly rated.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so looking at the

Speaker 6 Bengals, they got the F- for treatment of families.

Speaker 6 And then, yeah, Bears looked okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was, the Bears, it was the coach obviously brought their grade down, and I think they got to fix treatment of families as well. So it's work to be done and also win games.

Speaker 1 That's the other thing.

Speaker 1 They actually should do

Speaker 1 a column here for fans.

Speaker 1 Fans should get a say in this. I agree.
Just overall overall vibes.

Speaker 6 The other thing, the Baltimore Ravens, didn't they get an F a couple years ago? Maybe it was last year for their medical staff, training staff. So good news.
Now the training staff is at a B minus.

Speaker 6 Oh.

Speaker 1 So they've improved.

Speaker 6 I think that was just when they were all injured. And they're like, it's the trainers' fault.
Right.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 The Eagles got an A-min in food. I think that's probably just Big Dom's office.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's just like everyone's like, yeah, the food was fine, but I can always go to Big Dom's office and get a great meal.

Speaker 1 I can open up a cabinet and have a chicken parm ready to go.

Speaker 1 Okay. What else we got? Did you guys see?

Speaker 9 Did you see the Eagles said the players feel they should get first-class seats on team flights instead of the coaching staff?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's

Speaker 1 a fair point.

Speaker 6 So they want the coaches to sit coach.

Speaker 1 Here's something I don't understand as well, and maybe someone can explain to me. When you buy a plane, why isn't every seat just first-class?

Speaker 9 That's, I think, the Patriots' complaints as well.

Speaker 1 I don't get it.

Speaker 6 You can remodel it.

Speaker 1 Make every seat first class. Have every seat be a

Speaker 1 laydown bed. Yeah.
I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 Do you think the linemen are sitting like coach? Like a guy who's like Jordan Milata is sitting in

Speaker 13 like 23B?

Speaker 1 I think they get full rows, but I don't know why you wouldn't remodel it and just make it so that everyone has an awesome.

Speaker 2 What's the difference then if you get a full row?

Speaker 1 Legroom.

Speaker 2 Legroom.

Speaker 6 It's probably like Southwest. They get on, and then you can pick your seat.
Jordan takes the middle seat and then just defies anybody to try to sit window or aisle next to him.

Speaker 1 We need to get an owner on and just talk to him. Just be like, how is this possible?

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm just way missing this, but

Speaker 1 the NFL makes so much money. These guys make so much money every single year.

Speaker 1 I would put all the money back into it and just be like, here, guys, let's make this the best place possible so people want to come here.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you would think so, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, no. I'm looking.
The Patriots Aircraft...

Speaker 9 has all first-class seats with five extra inches of legroom beyond a typical first-class seat.

Speaker 1 They call it Aircraft. Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's awesome. That's a good name.
That is pretty funny.

Speaker 1 Well done. Max, got it?

Speaker 1 Got what? I got it. But they still got a bad travel.
Okay, all right. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I think just teams don't like it. I saw a lot of teams complaining that there wasn't Wi-Fi on the planes.

Speaker 1 But that's every plane ever. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You could be the richest person in the world and you still would be trying to get Wi-Fi on a plane. Yeah.
And

Speaker 6 you spend the entire flight just refreshing and you don't get anything. Right.
You spend two hours searching for Wi-Fi.

Speaker 2 I also think the Dolphins aren't filling this out.

Speaker 2 I think the team just got sent the thing and they just didn't read anything and did fives across the board.

Speaker 1 Well, the Dolphins get

Speaker 1 the credit of living in Miami. So everyone's like, yeah, my life's pretty good.
I live in Miami.

Speaker 1 I think the.

Speaker 2 Everything is A-plus. They're first in everything.
I think that they.

Speaker 2 Everyone has got that survey where it's like, I don't feel like filling this out.

Speaker 1 I'm just giving fives. A is an A-plus.
But I think where you live matters because it's like

Speaker 1 if you're in Buffalo, if you're in Green Bay, if you're in a Cole, if you're in Cleveland, you need your facility and weight room to be good because that's where it sucks outside.

Speaker 6 You have to attract people. I think the Vikings and the Falcons also had very good grades.
Yeah, they always do. Just everybody copying over Kirk Cousins' shoulder.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, so good job,

Speaker 1 some of the teams, not all of them. Did you guys see

Speaker 1 one of my favorite stories I've seen in a while? Dwayne Wade did a podcast, and he revealed that he knew that LeBron's time in Miami was coming to a close because Pat Riley took away LeBron's cookies.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Incredible. And also,

Speaker 1 I think I'm 100% on LeBron's side. So Dwayne Wade tells the story.
He's like, yeah, we get on the plane. LeBron loves cookies, loves ice cream.
He's got a bag of cookies that he brings on every plane.

Speaker 1 And they were playing cards. And LeBron said to someone, hey, bring me my cookies.
And the flight attendant was like, sorry, sir, there are no more cookies on this plane.

Speaker 1 Pat Riley had taken them away. I would, if someone takes another man's cookies,

Speaker 1 you have to fight them. That's fight.
That's fight. Fuck, you know, whether Tom Brady invited Matthew Stafford, that's a fight.
The thing is, like,

Speaker 6 you could just not give cookies in the first place, but you can't give them and then take them away.

Speaker 1 But he brought the cookies.

Speaker 1 He brought his own cookies on the plane. They were cookie.
Can you find the clip? Can we play the clip?

Speaker 1 He brought the cookies and Pat Riley confiscated them like it was Fat Camp.

Speaker 6 What kind of cookies were they?

Speaker 1 He said chocolate chip.

Speaker 1 Were they ooey?

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 God forbid, if those were homemade cookies,

Speaker 1 then it's actually you have to beat the fuck out of Pat Riley in front of the whole team.

Speaker 6 I'm saying if they're ooey and they're gooey and you take them, yeah, I'm quitting.

Speaker 1 It's very funny because Dwayne Wade explains it, but like LeBron stopped playing cards when he found out his cookies were taken. And it's like, that's a real so this is from the underground lounge.

Speaker 1 This was the first moment where I had an inkling that LeBron may not be back.

Speaker 1 One thing you don't do is fuck with LeBron cookies.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no. This is serious.
Like, he loves chocolate chip cookies. Like,

Speaker 1 chocolate chip cookies and ice cream he loves, right? And so when he gets on the plane, Brian walks on the plane with a bag of food.

Speaker 1 One bag is all cookies, and the other bags are what his chef has prepared for him to eat, because he eats a certain way. He don't eat what's on the plane.
Yeah. But, you know, he have his cookies.
So

Speaker 1 we get on the plane, and we play cards at the front of the plane.

Speaker 1 We play cards, and then at some point, point Bronco like hey Bring me those cookies and this one day he was like hey where my cookies at and they had to come up there and whisper his in tell him there were no more cookies on the plane

Speaker 1 That motherfucker sat back away from the game

Speaker 1 He pushed that table that cars back. He sat there quiet

Speaker 1 Doing his head like this. I was looking I'm like

Speaker 1 He play cards no more.

Speaker 1 He sat there like this. And Smack, you gotta know, if this car game gets shut down, shit's serious.
Oh, yeah, I'm no, it's serious. If this car gang gets shut down, it's serious.

Speaker 1 It was too much micromanaging at that time. That's it.

Speaker 1 I wasn't familiar with LeBron's game.

Speaker 1 I didn't know he was a bring his own cookies guy.

Speaker 6 Respect. I mean, I would quit.
I would quit if I were LeBron. I don't blame him from walking away from the heat for this.

Speaker 1 That is.

Speaker 1 That's the most... Like, I would rather someone

Speaker 1 come and pat me on the head, like, patronizing words, to take someone, to take another man's cookies. You're basically saying they're a four-year-old that didn't eat their vegetables.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you're calling them fat.

Speaker 1 I'm upset for LeBron.

Speaker 1 This story pissed me off. Pat Riley, bad guy, real bad guy.

Speaker 6 What if they just ate them all? What if they were so good, the flight attendants had them, it got out of hand, no more cookies.

Speaker 1 You'd think they would say that, though.

Speaker 1 I mean, it sounded like Dwayne Wade had it down pat that it was Pat Riley. Because remember, this also matches with what the heat culture where they weigh them every day and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Max, you agree?

Speaker 2 I think they're probably shitty cookies.

Speaker 1 What? What? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't think that if he has a chef making his dinner, he doesn't have a chef making his cookies?

Speaker 2 But I think his chef making his dinner, that's because he only eats specific healthy, healthy shit.

Speaker 1 He's a big cookie.

Speaker 2 So that he's probably getting almond flour cookies and stuff.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 6 I feel like that's his vice.

Speaker 1 No, I think that's his vice. I think the chef is probably making the best cookies possible.
And

Speaker 1 I know that this sounds ridiculous because people are like, dude, you're really upset about this. I'm upset about this.
It's the most I've ever been a LeBron fan.

Speaker 2 And the ice cream makes you think that it's. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's got a sweet tooth.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's got a sweet tooth. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 I think he's back.

Speaker 1 If anyone ever took my cookies, oh my God.

Speaker 1 I would lose it. I've been eating so many Girl Scout cookies.

Speaker 1 I bought a bunch.

Speaker 2 I've still been thinking about

Speaker 2 the Sam Schwartze cookies that he brought in. Oh, they were good.

Speaker 11 Those were so good.

Speaker 2 Shout out his wife.

Speaker 1 The Girl Scout cookies in my house, we bought a bunch because my little cousin is a Girl Scout. And so she came over and gave us a bunch.

Speaker 1 And then I was like, all right, I'm going to bring them to the office. And I just haven't been bringing them to the office.
I've just been mowing them down box by box. It's crazy.

Speaker 6 I discovered some thin mints in my freezer from last year. You think those are still good?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, good. I actually think there was a clip going viral that was like, thin mints are essentially not food.
I don't care. Yeah, I love whenever they do that.

Speaker 1 Whenever you see the video and they have the blowtorch, like, watch, this Oreo doesn't go on fire. You know what?

Speaker 6 Don't care. Yeah, we left this Big Mac on the counter for three months, and it still looks exactly the same.

Speaker 1 There's some shit that I think they should probably fix, but in terms of cookies, I don't care. I know when you're eating a cookie, you're not eating a cookie being like, this is good for me.

Speaker 1 You're opting into bad stuff. So it could be as bad as possible.
I don't give a fuck. Do I want the bread to be better? Sure.
Cookies, I'm fine.

Speaker 6 So the big question I have, though, LeBron has been so good at curating and managing his public image throughout the years. How come he didn't talk about this?

Speaker 6 Everyone would have been on his side.

Speaker 1 If he had just said, hey, Miami, great, you know, five years or whatever it was, four years, won two titles, Pat Riley took my cookies. I got to go.
Yeah. That's it.

Speaker 1 Everyone would be like, yeah, you know what? He actually should go revisionist history and be like, Dan Gilbert took my cookies, and that's why I made the initial moves.

Speaker 6 And then he promised me that he would let me have my cookies again, so I came back.

Speaker 1 All right. The other thing I had

Speaker 1 was...

Speaker 6 Jordan would never allow his cookies to be taken. No.
That's the thing. That's the difference.

Speaker 1 No, you'd fight them.

Speaker 6 He would keep that on his person. Yeah, absolutely.
Bad OPSEC by LeBron letting another man touch your cookies to begin with.

Speaker 1 You can't let him out of your sight. Yeah.
Yeah.

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Speaker 1 The other thing I had was a little national sports podcast talk, college basketball. Incredible night of college basketball.
I was talking with Titus because I went on his show.

Speaker 1 It does feel like the sport in general knows that March is coming because we had like an insane buzzer beater in the Michigan State game.

Speaker 1 We had great finishes in Kentucky and Oklahoma and Texas and Arkansas. Villanova.
Temple.

Speaker 2 Temple. That was a great finish.

Speaker 1 PFD. I was watching this game because crazy, I bet on it, but

Speaker 1 the Temple game,

Speaker 1 the guy goes to take

Speaker 1 on the baseline, a buzzer beater, maybe like two seconds left. He gets blocked by all three USF guys, and their momentum carries him.
He just grabs the block and then hits the shot.

Speaker 6 Let me see here. It was crazy.

Speaker 1 Or two.

Speaker 1 Boom.

Speaker 6 That's pretty incredible.

Speaker 1 Needed overtime bad there.

Speaker 1 That was heartbreaking.

Speaker 6 I'm excited for Conference Tournament Week. My favorite week of the year.

Speaker 10 It's going to be great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the stories I had, one was, I don't know if you saw, but Danny Hurley had a very funny moment where the media asked him about the press, and he said, the press has been an asshole to me all year.

Speaker 1 And then the guy was like, I'm talking about the press on the court when the team presses you.

Speaker 6 Yeah, which has also been an asshole.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which has also been an asshole.

Speaker 1 I also have

Speaker 1 a new thing because

Speaker 1 at this podcast, we we talked about Coach Cal being on the hot seat a lot. Probably can't do that right now because he's

Speaker 1 first year at Arkansas, got paid a lot of money. They actually got a big win.

Speaker 1 They should potentially be in the tournament.

Speaker 1 But I'm addicted to anytime Kentucky wins a game, just saying that's a game Cal would have lost.

Speaker 1 And last night I got in a real tricky spot because Kentucky won, and I said, that's a game Cal would have lost.

Speaker 1 And then five minutes later, Cal beat Texas in overtime and I was like, great job by Cal. That's a game Cal usually loses.

Speaker 1 But I think that's what we have to say for, it doesn't have to make sense. Cal won a lot of games, but every game that Kentucky wins, we just got to be like, that's a game Cal would have lost.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, if they score, if they like really fill it up and they win by 20, that's a game Cal would have won.

Speaker 6 But if it comes down to X's nose, Cal would have lost it. Cal would have lost it.

Speaker 1 And it is very funny because it pisses people off because they're like, you know, Cal won an insane amount of games. Like, yeah, I'm aware, but the ones he lost,

Speaker 1 that was one of the ones he would have lost.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I like that. I like that take.

Speaker 1 Just run with that.

Speaker 1 It's just anytime Kentucky's in a close game, you just say, that's a game Cal would have lost.

Speaker 6 I like it. There's another piece of news from the NFL.
Okay. They're going to start using Hawkeye technology.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 6 So for first downs next year, they're going to have the Chain Gang on the sideline to use as a backup just in case. But they're going to do like tennis does.

Speaker 6 And they're going to say, first down, no first down based on technology.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 Which I like the chain gang. I don't want to turn NFL into a computer simulation.
I like having the guys run out on the field with a chain.

Speaker 6 There's something nice about seeing a 70-year-old man trot out there very slowly, and then they measure it. Then the official gets real close, holds up his hands.
I like that part of the game.

Speaker 1 I have a question, and this comes from a place of love because I do love Bills Mafia. I love Josh Allen.
Everyone knows that.

Speaker 1 What happens if the Bills actually win a Super Bowl? Will we just get no new rules? Because all our new rules are just whenever the Bills lose to the Chiefs, we make a new rule.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's pretty much how it's done. They're also thinking about changing overtime.

Speaker 1 Again.

Speaker 6 Again, Troy Vincent said it's time to re-examine the overtime rules, which sucks because...

Speaker 6 It takes us two years to really learn overtime and be able to spot it like off the top of our head. If you were to ask me like on a Wednesday during NFL season, what is the NFL's overtime policy?

Speaker 6 It takes me like a year to get confident to just have that information, and then they change it, and then they're going to have to put that big graphic up before overtime.

Speaker 6 It's not going to make any sense to me. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Here are the overtime rules. All right, what else? Oh, I also for college basketball, I think they should change the rules.
We're talking about changing rules. I think we should ban fouling up three.

Speaker 1 I don't know how they could do it. I like the idea of maybe if you foul up three, they get three shots.
So just like really high-pressure

Speaker 1 three free throws. But there's nothing worse than in a game where a team is up three and it just becomes a foul fest and you lose out on like awesome moments.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's intentionally breaking a rule while you're leading that game. Right.
It doesn't sit right with me.

Speaker 10 Right.

Speaker 1 So, I don't know. And also, people don't understand follow-up three as like a concept.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of people who are like, that's why you got to follow up three when a team will hit a shot with like 10 seconds left. It's like, no, you don't follow up three with 10 seconds left.

Speaker 6 What's the time zone that you hit it in?

Speaker 1 I think it's like got to be, it's usually like five, it's like five to like two seconds, kind of. I think Oregon hit a three against Wisconsin on Saturday to tie the game.

Speaker 1 There was eight seconds left. Yeah.
And Ross Dean was like, that's why you got a foul up three. It's like, no, that's not why you foul up three.

Speaker 6 My favorite thing to do at the end of the game is no matter how much time's left, no matter what the lead is, I just like to say, you don't need a two or you don't need a three here. Yeah.

Speaker 6 You can get a two here. You usually can.

Speaker 1 You usually get an easy two because they're playing three-point defense. You just run to the when would you follow up three, Max? It's like five seconds, maybe less.

Speaker 2 Nah, I think

Speaker 2 I don't hate fouling up,

Speaker 2 especially Wisconsin. Wisconsin should be fouling up three early because they're the best free throw shooting team of all time.

Speaker 1 I don't know, but if you foul up three with 10 seconds left, there's so many possessions left.

Speaker 2 But you just got to trust your.

Speaker 2 If you're that good of a free throw shooting team, you got to trust your free throws. That's all you got to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just like seeing games have thrilling endings instead of the team.

Speaker 2 It depends on the team. If you're a shitty free throw shooting team, you probably...
never foul up three.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, true. True.
But I'm ready for madness. That Michigan State, I I felt bad for our friend Scott Van Pelti.
I think that was right in his eye. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was court side.

Speaker 6 I think it might be Izzo's season.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He said these guys are playing for Michigan State. That's all they care about.
Love it. I know he's feeling it.

Speaker 6 Love it. There's another little tidbit here, Max, I'd like to get your take on from Steph No.

Speaker 6 Steph No did some research, and he came to the conclusion that Paul George played better this season right after he dropped podcasts.

Speaker 6 And now he's not podcasting anymore.

Speaker 6 So games directly following a podcast, he averaged 17.1 points per game with no podcast down to 16 points per game.

Speaker 9 It also sounds like he just never wants to podcast again.

Speaker 1 So, what happened? Paul George just quit his podcast because the Sixers suck?

Speaker 9 He said, Until they are contending for a championship.

Speaker 6 So, Zero Dark 30.

Speaker 9 That was just a way of him being like, I don't want to podcast anymore.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's not for everybody. Now, the craziest one is his three-point percentage.

Speaker 6 In a game where there's no podcast before, he shoots 31.9%. In a game after a podcast drops, he shoots 42%.

Speaker 6 42.9%.

Speaker 1 You got to get him podcasting.

Speaker 6 So he shoots 11% better from three directly after dropping a podcast.

Speaker 2 I'm done with Paul George.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's my take. Wait, even next year?

Speaker 2 Maybe. We'll see.

Speaker 1 This year. The season's over.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm saying. I don't care.

Speaker 2 I'm opting out of all Sixers news.

Speaker 1 Oh, all of it.

Speaker 6 i refuse to let you opt out yeah we don't this season is over i want this i just want to fast forward to the end of the season you think when somebody does a deep dive into the analytics of podcast p and his game you think we're not going to bring that up to you no yeah i understand you have we have to talk about it yeah you want you are trying to be you're trying to be paul george you're trying to not do a podcast yeah you could say that

Speaker 1 what could make you guys take a break from podcasting is there anything oh hank that's weird why would you ask that right before golf season starts

Speaker 6 i think if I played for the second.

Speaker 1 That was such a loaded cut. Like,

Speaker 1 no, it's weather 50 degrees. It's topical.
Topical to your life, yeah. No, oh my god.
All right.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 6 We were driving to Indy on Tuesday, and after about 10 minutes on the road, Hank just looks to the side of the road and looks at me and smiles. I'm like, you motherfucker.

Speaker 6 He was just looking at the road that he takes to go to his golf club, and he was just thinking about getting out there with his sticks.

Speaker 1 So, wait, ask the question again.

Speaker 1 What would take us to stop podcasting?

Speaker 9 Paul Paul George stopped podcasting to focus on a championship.

Speaker 1 Nothing.

Speaker 9 Is there anything that you guys would stop podcasting to focus on? Sorry, that's apparently about me, and I want you guys to stop podcasting.

Speaker 6 Never. I would never stop.
No. I would only stop podcasting to focus on the podcast.

Speaker 1 I would only stop podcasting to focus on Hank's golf game.

Speaker 2 I had a bunch of people coming up to me last week saying that I was the new Hank.

Speaker 6 What does that mean?

Speaker 1 Because you shouldn't have vacationed. Because I was on vacation.

Speaker 6 Oh, and you win?

Speaker 6 Now you're a winner. And you're a winner now.

Speaker 1 And you're a winner.

Speaker 2 I need to think about it like that.

Speaker 1 Wow, it could have been that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I am planning my next vacation.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Hank has low-key kind of become the new max.

Speaker 1 How so?

Speaker 6 He hasn't won anything in a while.

Speaker 1 He won it. In a while.

Speaker 6 Almost a full year.

Speaker 1 Literally

Speaker 2 the second closest. Wait, no, the third closest.

Speaker 1 The third closest. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What would it take you to stop podcasting, Hank?

Speaker 9 Nothing. I would never stop.

Speaker 1 I love that about you.

Speaker 9 You guys stopping, though, would make me stop. I I could never podcast without you guys.
Oh, I love that.

Speaker 1 Appreciate that. I love that.
But yeah, also on the drive up or down to Indy,

Speaker 1 Max just

Speaker 1 treated us like we were five years old. Yeah.
That's not true. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 6 You called and you said, hey, do you guys think that you'll be on time?

Speaker 1 You called. I didn't think you left yet.
Yeah, you called police and asked if I had left yet.

Speaker 1 Because you're like,

Speaker 1 you might miss the first

Speaker 6 you guys leave yet.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. We probably have the footage.

Speaker 2 The last I had spoken to you,

Speaker 2 you told me that you were leaving at a different time. I said

Speaker 2 as I was going through the drive, I was like,

Speaker 2 as I was going through the drive, I was like, if he left at the time he told me he was going to leave, he may not be there on time.

Speaker 9 What time did you call, though?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I can check my.

Speaker 1 But you know me pretty well, Max. I'm not someone who's late to things or who fucks up time things.

Speaker 2 I understand that. I was just.
I was getting anxious in my own brain about what I would do if you guys weren't like

Speaker 2 Liam Cohn showed up and it was just me. I was getting anxious about what I was going to do in that moment.

Speaker 6 Don't hang out with the pod on your own?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just do it yourself.
It was you were you were a little broing.

Speaker 2 And then no, not little broing. That was my own anxiety taking over.
What day? This was Tuesday?

Speaker 2 All right, yeah, it was exactly 20 minutes after he told me. But that wasn't a, like, have you left yet? That was was more of a...

Speaker 1 Have you left yet? I know, but

Speaker 1 that was poor wording.

Speaker 6 Sometimes I have poor wording.

Speaker 2 Sometimes I have poor wording. I just wanted to know what the status was.

Speaker 6 The status was we were going to be on time.

Speaker 2 Correct, but I wanted to make sure. I was, you know.

Speaker 1 Have you guys been duped by any fake Epstein logs?

Speaker 1 Shout out the bro Hyan, I think is his Twitter name.

Speaker 1 No, Rudy. Yeah, Rudy.

Speaker 6 That one was real. Rudy was on the plane.

Speaker 1 He just

Speaker 1 said, wow, here's the Epstein log. This is crazy.
It was just the Packers depth chart. And I got like four names down.
I was like, oh, wow,

Speaker 1 this is fucked for them. Like, wait a second.
I like that.

Speaker 1 All right. Do we have anything else? Anything before we get to Shefty? Great interview with Shefty.
Any other national sports podcast news?

Speaker 1 It's going to be March soon. It's going to be March on Saturday.

Speaker 9 NBA Cental.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Free NBA Cental.

Speaker 6 So they got suspended? I don't know.

Speaker 9 I don't think it's free of them.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 9 Because they had two months to declare themselves a parody account and they just didn't.

Speaker 1 They're not a parody.

Speaker 1 They're central.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you gotta kind of just do that, right? Yeah.

Speaker 9 I mean, it's a parody account, so it's like

Speaker 9 all you have to do is declare yourself a parody account.

Speaker 6 I thought humor was legal now.

Speaker 1 What about free speech? We're legalizing comedy.

Speaker 1 Okay, so don't free him? I mean, I would like him back. No, I say free.
He would get me all the time. I would get got all the time.

Speaker 1 Was the one that I said on the podcast is like the

Speaker 1 big nuts, the testicle jewelry one?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was like crazy. Draymond Green buys like

Speaker 1 $400,000 gold testicles. I was like, damn, that's crazy.

Speaker 6 I can't believe Hank's taking the side of big tech.

Speaker 6 You're blaming Sintel.

Speaker 6 Sintel is a vital part of the sports ecosystem.

Speaker 9 No, I mean, I think it's like if you're a parody account and they say if you want to, you know, you can be a parody account, you just have to declare yourself as a parody account.

Speaker 9 If you don't, we're going to take your account down. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Like, you can't.
I got to take this call.

Speaker 2 Hey, we're...

Speaker 1 It's Jerry O.C. Hey, Jerry.
We're about to. Hey, Jerry, it's Hag from PMT.
We're recording right now. We're about to get to the Schefter interview.
I got to ask,

Speaker 1 you were joking

Speaker 1 that was for the show, right?

Speaker 1 What do you mean? No.

Speaker 1 Listen to the Schefter interview.

Speaker 6 Jerry, why are you getting upset? You don't even know what Schefter said.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the people listening right now don't even know what Schefter said. Guys, don't do it to me.
Just don't do it to me. Let me cook.
Let me cook on my own, please. Let me cook on my own.

Speaker 1 I just, I don't want...

Speaker 1 If you're going to have Shefty and

Speaker 1 Shefty's kids chiming in, honestly, get Hank to manage it. Like, he'll get it.
He's done a great job with the bonk list.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I'm not even kidding. You know, have,

Speaker 1 you know, Oldie do it. He can use some of his CFL

Speaker 1 duty and all of that stuff. He could maybe, you know,

Speaker 1 whip his pussy out.

Speaker 1 Listen. Just don't do it.
Just listen to what we talked about with Schefter, and then we'll talk after.

Speaker 1 Don't do it to me, guys. Just do it to me.
Just be open-minded.

Speaker 1 What did Chefty say about

Speaker 1 the Giants? Because I got to tell you, I saw a post that Aaron Rodgers might go there, and I'm not mad at that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, no one's listened to the Chefty interview yet because we're taping right now, and this is right before we get to Shefty.

Speaker 6 That's a good tease for the Giants, yeah.

Speaker 1 But guys, honestly, like, I know that was like a bit earlier. No, it wasn't.
I can't do it.

Speaker 1 Don't do it to me.

Speaker 6 Jerry, I need you to not flip out until you actually hear the chef.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you gotta hear it, and then we'll talk.

Speaker 1 I can't hear PFT. Tell him to say it with his

Speaker 6 i'm saying it with my chest jerry i'm telling you to just keep contain yourself until you listen to the interview you might have uh be whistling a different tune

Speaker 6 guys

Speaker 1 please i'm not gonna i'm not gonna beg for my job i'm not gonna beg for my job you are begging right now

Speaker 1 i think we gotta take these cookies away i have a question about the um jaguar she am was that ai that child who did the press code

Speaker 1 It might be. It might be.

Speaker 1 Listen, just listen to the Chefty Interview. This great promo for the Chefty Interview, and we'll discuss afterwards, okay?

Speaker 1 Do it. I'll only work with Max.
That's the only one. Why don't you get

Speaker 1 Steve Ch out of do it? You'll have all clicks next year. Good luck with that, fellas.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right, we've heard your demands.
Just listen to it with an open mind, okay?

Speaker 1 I'll only work with Max. Okay.
Or memes. Okay.
Max or memes. That's it.
Nobody outside of the building. Max or memes and not hank okay

Speaker 1 he'll be like you you just take care of it

Speaker 1 worked on the golf course

Speaker 1 all right jerry we'll talk to you later

Speaker 6 oh man he's mad don't forget we did a closest to the pin with jerry and he stayed on the simulator for six hours it's true likes golf also it just dawned on me you know who won our fantasy league last year who Jordan Schultz.

Speaker 6 Oh,

Speaker 1 there it is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So maybe team them up.

Speaker 6 That was a tough Venmo to send.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Team them up.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to our interview with Shefty, where we do discuss maybe a shuffle in the organization that we have going on with our fantasy football operations.

Speaker 6 We're examining everything to deliver a winner.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 there's been no decisions made. Jerry needs to understand that.
He's probably listening to this right now. Jerry, we have not made any decisions.
We're exploring all options. It would be wrong of us

Speaker 1 as owners of the team to not explore every avenue to make us better.

Speaker 6 We're custodians of a very important franchise. Right.
And we take that very seriously. And frankly, Jerry's reaction to not having any news at all about this is concerning to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was the third phone call we've had with him in the last 25 minutes. He hung up on us twice.

Speaker 6 He seems a bit unstable.

Speaker 1 He seems a bit unstable. Okay.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. It is Adam Schefter, ESPN Insider.

Speaker 1 This is maybe sixth straight year we've done.

Speaker 11 I was going to ask you how many straight years we've now done this.

Speaker 1 It's been a lot. It's a combined tradition of having Shefty on.

Speaker 11 And I didn't hear from you until Monday. I didn't even reach out.

Speaker 1 I knew you were good.

Speaker 1 We were getting all of our ducks in a row and then I hit you up and I was like, hey, can you do this time? You're like, yeah, I'll do whatever.

Speaker 11 Yeah, what took you so long? Right.

Speaker 11 And it's become such a tradition. I said this before and I really mean this.

Speaker 11 There's not a week that goes by where somebody doesn't stop me and say,

Speaker 11 I don't love the Adam Schefter podcast. I'd never hear that, but I love listening to you on PMT.

Speaker 1 I love that. That's the best compliment we can get.
Nobody has stopped me.

Speaker 11 Nobody has stopped me yet to say, I love you on the Adam Schefter podcast.

Speaker 1 I'm from Adam. Yeah, but you changed the name.
You changed it right now.

Speaker 6 You changed the audience when they tuned in for the name.

Speaker 11 Yeah, basic Adam Schefter podcast, but

Speaker 11 stopped on a regular basis.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Love you on PMT. So hopefully, I love that.
We're going to make the people happy today and give them what they want. All right.

Speaker 10 So I have a very, very important question to ask you first.

Speaker 1 It's a multi-layered question.

Speaker 10 Let's start with this.

Speaker 1 You have two phones.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How new are they?

Speaker 11 When did you get them? Well, it's funny you asked that because literally, this is my primary phone right here in my lap. And this is my secondary phone, which is the two phones I carry.

Speaker 11 And one of them is, they're two different carriers, providers.

Speaker 11 I have been ordering a new phone, and it showed up from ESPN yesterday. Okay.
And my son is like, why do they keep sending you old phones?

Speaker 11 And I called up to speak to somebody. I'm like, what's the deal? Like, it's always two models behind.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 11 And so they said, that's just how we do it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so how long? So

Speaker 1 you got a new phone. How long have you had the phone that you're switching out?

Speaker 11 Too long.

Speaker 1 How long?

Speaker 6 Three, four years.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I asked that question because

Speaker 1 I'm sure you saw our mutual friend Woj selling some of his old phones. I am willing to offer, I think, unlimited amount of money to buy the Miles Garrett assault phone from you.

Speaker 1 I don't know which, I don't know if you can pinpoint exactly which phone that is, but I want that.

Speaker 6 I need it. Let's see.

Speaker 1 I want to frame it. I want to put it in our studio.
This would be the phone. I need that phone.
That would be the phone.

Speaker 11 This would be the phone.

Speaker 11 Name your price.

Speaker 11 Name your price. Well, do we get to donate it to a charity?

Speaker 6 uh

Speaker 11 i don't know about that i just want this phone wait does it get a prominent spot

Speaker 1 yes we can we can donate to a charity yes we'll put it i want it i want it framed and i want it to be like this is the phone that adam shepherd tweeted assault from so

Speaker 1 1115 2019 oh so that might not be the phone so five yeah about five years ago i'm not but listen We know that we have to get this right because if we buy the wrong phone and everyone's going to be like, are you sure that's the phone?

Speaker 11 It would have to be authenticated.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So do you think there's a phone that you have maybe in your office that's the other phone that was the assault phone?

Speaker 11 I really believe that this is the assault phone. Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, we'll have to authenticate it, but we will donate to charity to get this in our studio. And then also.
Framed. Yeah, framed, everything.

Speaker 1 And then you can also throw in maybe the phone that has the Des Bryant tape on it. So we'll do that.
We'll do a two-for-one.

Speaker 1 That one, you got to keep the tape on it, though. We'll have it just playing on loop.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 In our studio. We do need to do some forensic analysis of the phone.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But you're willing to negotiate for charity.

Speaker 11 100%.

Speaker 11 Whatever you see.

Speaker 1 You get to wipe the phone. We'll put it up.
And it just says, this is the phone that Adam Schefter tweeted assault from when Miles Garrett committed assault.

Speaker 11 It would be my honor to give you this phone.

Speaker 11 This is huge.

Speaker 11 There should be like a Hall of Fame section

Speaker 11 in the bar stool office.

Speaker 1 We have the Ray Island phone that he tweeted that thing out.

Speaker 6 That would be nice.

Speaker 1 Yes, we have the Will Compton Museum in one of the bathrooms.

Speaker 1 And listen, I'll also extend this courtesy to you. Whenever you want to come visit your phone, you have free right to come and visit your phone.
That's big. That's huge.

Speaker 6 Yeah, charge admission for people to touch it.

Speaker 11 You can't put a price on that.

Speaker 1 People taking pictures of it to the phone.

Speaker 6 By this way, you have two different carriers. Do you do that just in case like AT ⁇ T blows up for a day?

Speaker 11 No, just in case, like, it's amazing how often I'm in one spot and I don't have... reception on one phone, but I do on another.

Speaker 11 There's a road near my house that this phone loses reception every time, but this one keeps it.

Speaker 6 So you're always on the grid.

Speaker 11 It's weird. But this one, the primary one,

Speaker 11 it's really acting up. And we got free agency in a couple of weeks here.
And I do not trust this phone. This phone is literally on its last legs.

Speaker 1 It's a time bomb.

Speaker 11 It's a time bomb. And I'm working with Disney, and they sent me a 15.

Speaker 11 Model 15, and my son's like, you need a 16. I'm like, what? I don't understand any of this.
I'm not smart enough tech-wise. He's He's like, more processors, better chips.
Okay.

Speaker 11 So I think I'm going to Apple this weekend to buy the 16. And if and when I do that and transfer over everything, you give me the address.
Yep.

Speaker 1 That's ours. And we'll ship it.
You give us a charity and ship you this phone.

Speaker 11 I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 And you can hang it on the wall. Yes.
I love it. Speaking of Miles Garrett, let's talk about Miles Garrett real quick.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 So is he going to be traded?

Speaker 11 Here's the, there are so many complicating factors with that, right? If you trade them, first of all, they've been very steadfast in saying we're not trading him. That's number one.

Speaker 11 Number two, if they do trade him, there's like a $36 million cap charge that gets accelerated. So it's hard to trade him.
It's hard to do it from a financial standpoint.

Speaker 11 You don't know if there's a team out there that's even willing to give up what it would take. So there are a whole slew of factors.

Speaker 11 Now we've seen in recent years, any number of players go from wanting to be traded to signing extensions.

Speaker 11 I know this is not money-based, but Lamar Jackson wanted to be traded, dropped that right before John Harbor was having breakfast with the reporters at the owners' meetings a couple of years ago, and he wound up signing a month or so later.

Speaker 11 Debo, Samuel, Brandon, I, we can go on and on.

Speaker 11 Again, I would think eventually maybe he'll soften up because the Browns feel like they're unwilling to move him.

Speaker 11 It would take a change. Now, the Bears or the Raiders at one point in time were like, We're not trading Khalil Mack.
We're not trading Khalil Mack. We're not trading Khalil Mack.

Speaker 11 September 1st of that year, after weeks and months had passed, they traded Khalil Mack to the Bears.

Speaker 1 Yes. So, if they do trade him, what do you think the ballpark compensation is? And give us the teams that are going to be hot and heavy for him.
Well,

Speaker 11 if you go back and look at what the Bears gave up for Khalil Mack, it was two firsts.

Speaker 11 It was a third, a fifth. It was a bunch of

Speaker 11 to me, that's the most fair comp there is out there right now.

Speaker 11 You could look across the league, and I could tell you that there are 31 teams aside from Cleveland that could use Miles Garrett.

Speaker 11 Realistically, I think you're looking at a contender that needs a pass rusher that it could make a huge difference. Buffalo would be unbelievable.
Washington would be unbelievable.

Speaker 1 You're a contender.

Speaker 6 Yeah, contender. Right?

Speaker 11 Like,

Speaker 1 how does it feel?

Speaker 11 How does it feel when we say Washington special?

Speaker 6 It makes me feel tingly. Contender.
I don't see the thing about Washington is they were a great team. They were fun to watch last year.
I love the direction the team's going.

Speaker 6 And Dan Quinn did a great job. Adam Peters seems to know what he's doing.
But the roster needs a lot of upgrades.

Speaker 6 I don't know that you can say that we're one piece away just because we got to the NFC championship game. The roster across the board, they have to go out and find all these replacements.

Speaker 6 So while, yes, I would love Miles Garrett, I feel like the compensation is going to be very, very rich.

Speaker 11 Absolutely. And that's even if they do trade him, which right now they say they're not going to.
But Jaden Daniels, like you are set up for the next 12 to 15 years to be.

Speaker 1 Don't say that. That's a long time.
But that's what it's just. I hope, I hope, I hope that you're right.

Speaker 6 Because we were in these chairs not but four years ago when you did the meanest thing you've ever done to me and you put Carson Wentz inside my brain and you knew what you were doing.

Speaker 6 Is there anything, anything that you've heard this week, maybe you want to say Debo repeatedly to me to make me feel good about the chances of getting Debo Samuel?

Speaker 11 I could see them being interested in Debo Samuel.

Speaker 11 And I think that there is a market for Debo Samuel that's probably a little bit stronger than people thought it would be. And I think the 49ers are going to be able to trade him.

Speaker 1 Okay. What else are the 49ers going to do? Because it feels like they're a team in heavy transition.
They have to probably shed a couple other players.

Speaker 1 Who else is someone that you might, I mean, is Brock Purdy going to get signed? Are they going to let him play out the rest of this contract? Here's the issue.

Speaker 11 They are in such a difficult cap situation that it's going to impact all sorts of things. So I think with Brock Purdy, here's the thing that people have to remember.
He's got a year left on his deal.

Speaker 11 Right.

Speaker 11 And so the Niners can offer him a package and say, here's what we're willing to do, whatever that is.

Speaker 11 And then

Speaker 11 is it going to be the Dak Prescott contract? It's not. I don't expect it to be.
Right. Is it going to be a fair contract? I would think it would be.
They have to pay him. He's worthy and deserving.

Speaker 11 of a big contract. But what is that deal? And that's going to be one of the questions.
They've got so many financial issues and so many things they have to do and need to do that

Speaker 11 you're not going to be able to pay Brock Purdy Dak Prescott. You can find a deal for Brock Purdy, but

Speaker 11 and I'm sure his agent wouldn't like this, but if Brock Purdy doesn't like that deal, like I don't know how far the Niners can go. And then the Niners can just say, okay, guess what?

Speaker 11 We have your rights this year for $5 million. We could franchise tag you next year for $40 million.
That's $45 million over the next two years that they have his contractual rights for. Is that fair?

Speaker 11 No. Right.
But that's the way it is right now.

Speaker 11 And so it's a tough spot. So there's a deal to be had for both sides that's fair, but how do you work through that and figure it out?

Speaker 1 Dudes, in general, I feel like teams don't use the franchise tag as often as you do.

Speaker 11 Some teams view it as a weapon, and some teams would rather not do it.

Speaker 11 And this year, I don't know what the record is for the fewest number of players who are tagged, but this year we're we're looking at T. Higgins.

Speaker 2 Maybe

Speaker 11 that might be the only one that we get.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know Trey Murphy was thrown around, but that would be, I think, the Chiefs.

Speaker 11 Trey Smith

Speaker 11 on Kansas City. Byron Murphy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 Trinita can't be tagged.

Speaker 11 Trey Smith, maybe a transition tag. I don't think that happens, but you're not going to get more than at most two tags this year.

Speaker 1 So do you think that, because like the franchise tag, it does feel like teams,

Speaker 1 they use it as kind of a, hey, we could do this, but they don't use it very often.

Speaker 11 often do you think there's any way that when they get to the negotiating table they get rid of the franchise tag or adjust it and change it well here's the thing in the next couple of years at some point in time the nfl pa is going to have a chance to go to the bargaining table and the nfl is going to very badly want that 18th regular season game it's already worked into the 2027 super bowl 2027 is played on presence yeah because it's already there yeah because you know what's going to happen here what's going to happen is they're going to eventually I believe, no matter how much the NFL PA has objected, I think that they're wise to say what they've done.

Speaker 11 They get to an 18-game schedule, and then the league can take a 12-14, 16-game international package and sell that. I've heard this.

Speaker 1 I hate this idea.

Speaker 11 I'm just telling you.

Speaker 1 Can you tell the league not to do this? So the idea would be that there would be every single week, there would be a standalone like 8,000, 9.30 in the morning game.

Speaker 11 Maybe not every week, but plenty of weeks.

Speaker 1 Can you tell them alternatively what they should do is they should do a hybrid of the college football model and have East Coast games start at noon local time, and then there's another four games that kick off at 3:15, and then there's another two or three games that kick off at 6 o'clock, and then Sunday night football at 8:30.

Speaker 1 That's what we want. We want there to be, there's no break in the football.
You just have overlapping windows, you have four windows, and you don't have the 9:30 because that game, it's just

Speaker 11 have you thought about throwing your name into the ring to succeed Roger Goodell when he decides to step down as a commissioner?

Speaker 6 I'm just saying it's a real issue because on Sunday you wake up. We as football fans have about like a three or four hour time span there where we can act like normal functioning.

Speaker 1 Get all your pets in.

Speaker 6 You can do some sort of chore. You can spend time with a family or with a dog, act like you are a real human being.
And then you sit down on the couch for nine hours non-stop.

Speaker 1 But when you when you take away that Sunday morning, then it's just like oh i just i don't have sunday oh by the way you like from my standpoint we have the pregame show they don't they're not thinking about us they're not thinking about here's you here's the thing nothing about like what roger didell's got to understand he doesn't he doesn't understand gamblers and if you the reason why college football like a college football saturday is more fun to bet on is because you have multiple time slots staggered staggered because a lot of people not naming names myself will will load up on the first time slot and we'll be like, all right,

Speaker 1 if we can get some wins, then we're going to go to the next one. So you have people betting throughout the day

Speaker 1 with only the two time slots.

Speaker 1 Listen, if he wants to bring me on as a special advisor for degenerate gamblers, I'm more than welcome to. He should.
Yeah. Clearly.

Speaker 11 Because there is the potential for that whole new window of international games, another broadcast package to sell. I think that's where it's going to go.

Speaker 1 He's not thinking about, he's not thinking about, you know what he's not thinking about? He's not thinking about marriages and relationships in America.

Speaker 1 Because listen, a couple of the 9.30 games you can get away with being like, oh yeah, they're playing in Germany. They've never done this before.

Speaker 1 Every fucking Sunday, if I have to be at 8.30 in the morning in Central Time, being like, oh yeah, there's another game. He's pushed us to the brink.

Speaker 11 Like they added the Thursday night. There's Monday night now.
Like Friday night last year. So I can't tell how many times I got to my there's a game tonight.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which I love. I'm just saying the night like the PFT's right.
You we all have like two or three hours on Sunday to get our brains, you know, ready to go, fired up, look at the board.

Speaker 1 You start a game, Early.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's just so we can pretend to have a real life on Sunday. We don't.
We don't have a real life.

Speaker 1 Walk the dog. Yeah, you get up.

Speaker 6 How many dogs, how many pets are going to die because Roger Goodell is going to insist on taking away all of her Sundays?

Speaker 1 I mean, I say to my wife every Sunday morning, it's like, don't worry, I got the kids till 11.

Speaker 1 And I feel like a hero, and she sees right through it, and she's like, and then at 11? You know what else I I don't want? I don't want the Super Bowl in London. No, that's American.

Speaker 1 Shefty, you better get that stopped.

Speaker 11 Well, if you succeed, Roger Goodilla, you better get that.

Speaker 1 You better be the man that gets it done, baby. She, if there's a Super Bowl in London, we're going to be so fucking pissed.
We want a war so that we don't have to play a Super Bowl in London. Okay?

Speaker 1 We're not doing this shit.

Speaker 6 They're going to try to put it in, though, right? That's one of the next ones up.

Speaker 11 They say there's no international Super Bowl on the horizon.

Speaker 11 I think at some point in our lifetimes, I think there'll be an international.

Speaker 1 I hope he's right.

Speaker 11 Yeah, but it doesn't sound like it's anytime soon.

Speaker 6 Enough is soon. But Goodell wants it so badly.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get some of the fun stuff.

Speaker 6 Shefty, New Year's Eve, 2024, you send off a very nice in-memorium tweet where you honor those that we lost in the year 2024.

Speaker 6 How many different edits did you go through to figure out where to put O.J. Simpson's name in the middle

Speaker 6 so that nobody saw that OJ?

Speaker 11 I went back and forth on that.

Speaker 11 I mean, I always, I don't know what it is, but every year I keep a file of people who lost their lives. Like, I'm just fascinated by it.
And I just think that it's a way to pay respect

Speaker 1 to people

Speaker 11 who have lost their lives. And so I keep her running.

Speaker 1 Do you have any notes on them?

Speaker 11 No. Okay.
No, I just literally have it on my computer at home. Yeah, yeah.
And I add like a death file.

Speaker 1 So Virginia McCasky's the first entrant in the death file for 2025, R.A.P.

Speaker 11 She's not the first one in this year. Oh, who was the first? I think my dog, Benny.

Speaker 1 Oh, you fucking asshole.

Speaker 6 R.I.P. Benny.
Yeah, yeah. Anyway, sad to hear that.

Speaker 1 That's such bullshit. You just did that to me.

Speaker 1 Benny. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Blake, Stella, you understand, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 How old was Benny?

Speaker 11 Benny was 15.

Speaker 11 Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 So Benny actually in dog years was older than Virginia McCasky.

Speaker 11 Benny, yeah, he was close.

Speaker 1 Pretty crazy.

Speaker 11 We have an 18-year-old at home who's blind and deaf. And we have another 15-year-old that named Bailey that, I don't know, four months ago, the doctors recommended, she couldn't walk anymore.

Speaker 11 And the doctors recommended we put her down. And she was so mentally alert and aware.
My wife and I are like, we're not putting her down. And

Speaker 11 she's regained some of her ability to walk. She kind of walks like a crab now.

Speaker 11 She craps in the house all the time.

Speaker 1 She can't get out of time.

Speaker 11 But she's our dog.

Speaker 1 Stella had diagnosed with kidney disease when she was like 10 or 11. And one of the vets was like, yeah, she's probably got six months to a year.
And

Speaker 1 we're three years past that. And it's like, once you get to the 13, 14, you're like, this has been an awesome run.
I know it's sad. Benny, Benny.

Speaker 11 Benny, on February 23rd last year, I was sitting at my kitchen table, and he came hobbling in. Like we're like, what the heck happens?

Speaker 11 We watched the ring camera, and he went to jump up the step in the back into our house and he missed it and he couldn't walk. So I took him to the vet.

Speaker 11 They did some x-rays. They didn't find anything.
Took him to another vet. They did an MRI and they came out and they're like, he's got a torn ACL.

Speaker 11 Okay. And

Speaker 11 we also found cancer in his liver that spread to his lungs. And I said, you know, I mean, I'll never forget it.

Speaker 11 The doctor called us. I was with my wife for hysterical.
And

Speaker 1 we're like, how long?

Speaker 11 He goes,

Speaker 11 I'd say two to three months. And that was February 23rd.
Wow.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 he made it for almost a full year. The last conversation I had with Chris Mortensen, I called him because I was so distraught over Benny.
I called him on a Thursday. Like, I was broken up.

Speaker 11 And then Mort

Speaker 11 passed away on Saturday, which was, or Sunday morning.

Speaker 11 You guys have dogs.

Speaker 1 No. No, I know.
Dogs are. They are the best.

Speaker 11 They are the best. They are family.
They are your children. We have

Speaker 1 four

Speaker 11 now.

Speaker 11 We'll always have dogs. Love dogs.

Speaker 1 The one hardest part I always think about is the quote Peter King had, even though he still owes us money.

Speaker 1 He said that the only way to not feel the pain of a dog passing is to never own a dog. And what a sad life that would be.
That's it. You can just not own a dog,

Speaker 1 but you don't get all the joy of it.

Speaker 1 R.I.P. Benny.
A moment of silence for Betty.

Speaker 11 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Good dog. So why did you have OJ in that?

Speaker 1 Back to that.

Speaker 11 Let me ask you. Would you have left him out?

Speaker 1 Played football.

Speaker 6 Now, he did have 2,000 yards in the season. Yeah.
14 games. And he did die.
Separate the art from the artist.

Speaker 6 He did die. Now, on the other hand, he committed double murder.

Speaker 6 So I'm going to say...

Speaker 1 Toss-up.

Speaker 6 He's found not guilty, though, of double murder, but he did do that.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 6 But he blocked me on Twitter. That's true.
So yeah, no, I would leave him out. You leave him out because he wouldn't see it anyways.
He's got to be blocked.

Speaker 1 Maybe a separate tweet being like, and also not rest in peace.

Speaker 11 You know what? The amazing thing is, is like, I'm like, the guy died. He did die.
He had an accomplished life, good and bad.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 11 So he, he was, I didn't even think anything of it. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, controversy.

Speaker 6 Well, no, it was just that it was, it was hidden in the middle, which which was the right move if you're going to have it.

Speaker 1 Was it chronological?

Speaker 11 It's always sequential. Oh, okay.
It's always sequential. So what you should have done.
I'm going to take a running list. I take that list and I just post a list.

Speaker 11 I try to

Speaker 11 honor the people we lost.

Speaker 1 Here's what you should have done, because this is a running bit with us

Speaker 1 when people say, you know, J.J. Watt is such a better person than he is, football player.
And we're like, no, he's not.

Speaker 1 He was one of the best football players ever. There's no way he's one of the best humans ever.
That's no offense to him. But you should have just said, O.J.

Speaker 1 Simpson, significantly better football player than Percy.

Speaker 11 Or I could have put OJ Simpson asterisk. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe not dead. Asteric.
Oh, actually, no, he's, yeah, he's because I've never astericked anybody that lost their life in that year.

Speaker 11 Yeah. So I could have asterisked

Speaker 11 any of the classifications that you want.

Speaker 6 Maybe you do a separate, a separate post for the people who have died who are also murderers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. The asterisks could also be like OJ Simpson still like what it would be like his war is still, like, plus one because he took two lives.
Katie ratio. Yeah, his only,

Speaker 1 that's something like that. We can workshop it if that comes up.

Speaker 11 You let me know. You know what? I'll send this upcoming years.

Speaker 1 Was Aaron Hernandez in the end of the year?

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 How long have we been doing this?

Speaker 1 This death file is pretty fun.

Speaker 11 What I used to be able to do,

Speaker 11 it would, you know what? Instagram, you could post as many names as you want. Right.
So Twitter, I think there was a limit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 And what year was Aaron Hernandez? It would have been roughly 12 years ago.

Speaker 1 That was a long time ago. Yeah, you might not have.

Speaker 11 Posting names back then.

Speaker 1 You would have not had the deaths.

Speaker 11 We avoided the issue back then.

Speaker 6 The other thing I really wanted to bring up with you about some year and some small missteps, I feel like it was a pretty clean year for you.

Speaker 6 Were you illegally streaming the Jets Texans game on meth streams?

Speaker 11 You know what's amazing about that? Good question, PFT. Is that

Speaker 11 I believe it was the Malachi Corley play, correct? Where he fumbled?

Speaker 1 Yep. Okay.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 I had this app where you could take the video, put it in there, and get the video.

Speaker 11 And in this particular play, I kept waiting for the NFL to post the video right away.

Speaker 1 And it took a long time.

Speaker 11 It wasn't posting. So I'm looking, I'm looking.
I see the video.

Speaker 6 On mess streams.

Speaker 11 Actually, I'm thinking of the sequence now. I used to do it that way.
And then Field Yates, who now we're going to have to blame.

Speaker 6 We're throwing Field under the bus?

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 11 He said, all you have to do, let me show you something. If you just press.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's very easy.

Speaker 11 Press.

Speaker 11 I'm trying to think which camera is going to be.

Speaker 1 Not even press download, but just show you how to press video. Yeah.

Speaker 11 That's what happened. Field showed me after the fact.
Okay.

Speaker 1 This is a long answer for just you watching mess streams. Can you edit this video?

Speaker 1 Are you in the mess streams chat? Can you edit this answer to make it more succinct?

Speaker 11 I'm not used to speaking this much out of turn. Okay, now I I have the sequence.

Speaker 1 So I see it.

Speaker 11 I'm waiting for the NFL to post.

Speaker 11 It doesn't post it. I finally see

Speaker 11 somebody post it. I copy the link.
I put it in the app. I get the video.
I post it. And the next thing I know, I'm getting besieged with messages about meth.

Speaker 1 Meth streams, yeah. Yeah, meth streams.

Speaker 6 Well, meth streams, it was a refuge for those of us that didn't want to pay for all the different packages you have to do. And now they shut down.

Speaker 1 They shut it down because you blew it up. You blame me for shutting down.
You made the block.

Speaker 11 I like to think that journalists are crusaders and we're here to right the wrongs in the world.

Speaker 1 And so there were a lot of people that were illegally streaming on meth, and they shouldn't be on meth anyway. Nobody should be on meth.
You ruined method.

Speaker 1 So they're took away a great way to within my powers.

Speaker 11 I took it to squash meth, which to this day, I get pissed off messages in my DMs sometimes from people like.

Speaker 1 You should. You ruined meth.
Yeah, you're a wreck.

Speaker 1 But I feel like

Speaker 11 I'm trying to help people out. They shouldn't be

Speaker 1 on meth. Yeah, you're not.

Speaker 11 People shouldn't be on meth.

Speaker 11 But the great part was the next day i'm seeing people they're like adam shepter's trying to find ways around paying the 8.99 yeah amazon like hey can i tell you something can i tell you what my wife orders from amazon like five six times a day 8.99 i mean that is just laughable that i'm trying to find and i i am so far from being equipped or smart enough to figure out a go-around to avoid like

Speaker 11 but really it's field yates fault yeah and so afterwards afterwards, Field Yates said, Let me just show you how to do something.

Speaker 11 All you do is press down the video, it credits the people, and then you can just post the video.

Speaker 11 So, Field deserves credit for that. I wish he had shown it to me before I could actually be the one responsible for taking down the.

Speaker 1 And he thinks the lady Doth protests too much.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think you were doing some math.

Speaker 1 You were on meth.

Speaker 6 You strike me as a meth guy.

Speaker 1 You don't sleep much longer.

Speaker 11 I never knew any of this existed until after the fact when I'm getting all these text messages.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is a lot of.

Speaker 6 I think it's breaking battom. I think that's what it is.

Speaker 1 I think that you are...

Speaker 6 You get a problem.

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Speaker 1 Do you think you're washed up because you didn't announce Punksatoni Phil?

Speaker 1 No, I did last year.

Speaker 11 I did. I did do it.
Didn't do this year.

Speaker 1 Oh, you did? I did. Oh.
You were first?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 11 I could tell you this. I think that time honor tradition is dead.
I think I'm not doing it ever again.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you are washed? No. Well, younger Adam Schefter, like, if there's a scoop, I'm going to get it.

Speaker 11 We evolve over time.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 11 We evolve, right?

Speaker 11 And so I've done it enough that there was a posting about this, like there was meth, like there is with seemingly many things that I do with my life about how Adam Schefter posted about the Groundhog digging.

Speaker 11 digital. Like, I thought people kind of liked that.

Speaker 11 I think it's always interesting.

Speaker 1 Well, I think it speaks to your addiction to scoops, and I like that about you. Where, like, is there any scoop you wouldn't take?

Speaker 1 Because I kind of enjoy when you like drop a random NBA scoop or a rat sees his shadow in western Pennsylvania. Like, that's.
So there's someone out there being like, Shefty got me again.

Speaker 1 Like, this was my,

Speaker 11 I love information. I love anything that's like, whoa, I didn't know this, right? So, anything like that, whatever it's related to, I'm in.
Love that about you.

Speaker 11 But I think I'm getting out of the Pungstatani Phil business. Okay.
So you guys got the story first here where I think we're out of that business. We're not doing it.

Speaker 1 Breaking news. Breaking news.
Punks to Tawny Phil will not be seeing a shadow for me anymore.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I just feel like this is you getting out because other people were getting the scoops ahead of time. Like you got bullied out of the groundhog space.
That's true, too.

Speaker 1 If you can't win, you quit. Is that what people are saying?

Speaker 11 I just think that, like I said,

Speaker 11 you know when the space is becoming crowded, right? And so when everybody's weighing in on Punctshitani Phil, it's time for you to go find the next avenue to explore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 You want to talk more NFL right now? Yeah. Like what's going on?

Speaker 11 Those are all the fun topics you got from the controversial.

Speaker 1 I know there's more. No, there's no more.
All right.

Speaker 6 So when the Luca trade happened, you said that for an NFL comparison, this is like Lamar Jackson Plus for Joe Burrow Plus. And I thought that you made it seem like there were streaming services.

Speaker 6 You put like the little plus sign next to it. I don't know if that's a great comparison.

Speaker 11 You know what? Here's what happened. You might be right.

Speaker 11 To me, and I am a big NBA fan, like it's a huge trade, huge. And so you're talking about a veteran and a younger superstar, a guy who has won championships, a guy who I think will win championships.

Speaker 11 It's just a colossal trade. I was just trying to think of two stars.
Probably a better analogy. Like, literally, I was asleep when Shams broke it.
So, like, I'm thinking, like, what is this like?

Speaker 11 I've never seen anything like this. I came up with that.

Speaker 11 Some people didn't like it. Okay.

Speaker 11 Again,

Speaker 11 upon further reflection, maybe it would be like Dak Prescott for Justin Herbert.

Speaker 11 Maybe that would be a better one. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think the Joe Burrow for

Speaker 1 Matt Stafford was a

Speaker 1 good one. That's a decent one.
Where it's like the age, like it's, you know,

Speaker 1 this isn't bad.

Speaker 11 It's just fun to wonder about it.

Speaker 1 Like, there's no right or wrong.

Speaker 11 Like, that was something that came to me as I woke up in bed, as I'm laying in bed.

Speaker 11 It was the first Saturday night where I said, I don't have to check on any injuries here for the first time since Labor Day. And I dozed off for a couple.
I wake up. I'm like, what the hell is this?

Speaker 11 Like everybody else. And that's what came to me at that moment.
Sorry it offended as many people as it did.

Speaker 6 No, thank you for your apology. I appreciate your apology, but I appreciate the fact that you said it.

Speaker 1 One other fun one.

Speaker 1 Do you think you should get any credit for dunking on Doug Gottlieb? Because that's like, this isn't a height joke. That's like dunking on like a five-foot rim.
Everyone can dunk on Doug Gottlieb.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 11 he texted me after the fact, and

Speaker 11 when he texted after that,

Speaker 11 I started rooting for Wisconsin Green Bay. It was a rough year rooting for them.

Speaker 1 No, they're bad.

Speaker 1 They're really bad.

Speaker 11 It's a rough year. But, you know, and I even debated, actually, I tried to go to one of the games, and I went through Chicago.
The good part was it was like before the Super Bowl.

Speaker 11 And so I was going to Wisconsin Green Bay. I came through Chicago, and I didn't have any clothes.
The airlines lost my bag.

Speaker 11 So I was going through Chicago, and I found these two duffel bags and was able to drive by, pick up a couple of duffel bags, got a bunch of clothes, got some great jumpsuits right now.

Speaker 11 Worked out pretty well. Yeah.
Rooting for Wisconsin Green Bay.

Speaker 1 You did get him good. He said it was a story about Sacramento State raising 50 million

Speaker 1 in NIO. By the way, like

Speaker 1 the athletic director told me that. Right.

Speaker 11 So like he comes, like,

Speaker 11 he responds to that with.

Speaker 1 But is the athletic director telling you that? Is that not like a stripper saying, like, I really like you, Adam?

Speaker 11 Maybe so.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 But the athletic director said, he did say it.

Speaker 1 He's the athletic director.

Speaker 11 He said we had 50 million, which people were like, hey, that's not right. Oh, take it up with him.
Yeah, take it up with him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Golly said, Jesus, Shefty, edit what agents tell you. 0.0% chance Sacramento State has.

Speaker 6 What agent have Sacramento State have stuff?

Speaker 1 And then you said, and Jesus, Doug, a seven-game losing streak and last place in the Horizon League, less time on social media, more time in the gym. Got him.

Speaker 11 By the way, like.

Speaker 1 And then they went on to lose like 14 more games in a row.

Speaker 1 I should have updated 20.

Speaker 11 Here's the deal.

Speaker 11 I try never to clap back. I don't like that.
But when people post factually incorrect information, like clean up with the agent, like, no, no, I was talking to the athletic director. Right.

Speaker 11 This is what he said. Right.
What do you want me to do? Right. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's fair. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Source off.
I think you won the source off, but Big Dad's kind of right. Yeah.
Doug Gottley, come on.

Speaker 12 Like, take it easy on that. Yeah, everyone.

Speaker 1 He's t-ball. He's been through enough of this.
Yeah, we can all take hacks at Doug Gottley. We got any news breaking right now? What do you got?

Speaker 1 Don't try to do this to us.

Speaker 6 Don't fake us. You remember when you faked me out of the business?

Speaker 11 Actually, big news.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 11 ESPN has re-signed Laura Rutledge to a big deal.

Speaker 1 Oh, huge. Okay.

Speaker 6 You didn't get that scoop?

Speaker 11 I didn't get that scoop.

Speaker 1 That's huge. But you know what?

Speaker 11 Laura Rutledge is a rock star. Yeah, we like Laura.
She's fantastic. Yes.
She deserves everything she gets, and I'm very happy to see her. Agreed.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 11 Disappointed I didn't get it, but that's the way it goes.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I was wondering if that was going to be Matt Stafford news. Where's where gun to your head? Matt Stafford's next team.

Speaker 1 Max. Oh,

Speaker 11 I don't like. Oh, first of all,

Speaker 1 guns pointed at my head. Pog guns.
Pog guns. Get the guns up.
Che. Where's he playing at him?

Speaker 11 Makes me very anxious.

Speaker 1 Where's he playing at? Che is refusing to put the guns to Shafter's head.

Speaker 1 I said, Jay, and he just goes, no, no, no way.

Speaker 1 Where's he playing?

Speaker 11 I really don't know right now because it's kind of a coin flip kind of thing.

Speaker 1 You're dead.

Speaker 1 Bad answer.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we believe that he's probably going to either the Giants or probably re-sign with the Rams.

Speaker 11 Those are the two. plausible scenarios.
Okay. I think the Raiders are out there lurking as well.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 11 I think those would be the three scenarios that make sense. And honestly, I think it changes on a fairly regular basis.

Speaker 11 So that's why I don't want to predict, hey, he's going to restart with the Rams and all of a sudden, lo and behold, there he is traded to one of those other two teams or he's going to be traded and lo and behold, he decides to go back to the Rams because these things change all the time.

Speaker 10 Right. All right.

Speaker 1 So what about Aaron Rodgers? Is he going to play football? Let's go to the bottom.

Speaker 11 So I think he's going to play. He's going to play.
And I think he

Speaker 11 has something to prove in his own mind. And I think there's going to be a chip on his shoulder.
And we we know what that guy's like with a chip on his shoulder.

Speaker 11 And I think you have to wait for Matthew Stafford to see where he goes before we could figure out where Aaron Rodgers is going to go.

Speaker 11 Because I think once Matthew Stafford's situation is settled, then Aaron Rodgers gets to follow us.

Speaker 6 Okay, so if Rodgers, if Stafford signs with the Giants, it sounds like you're saying Rodgers to the Rams.

Speaker 11 I definitely could see that happening.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let me throw out a couple team names. You can be like, no chance, or yeah, that could happen.
So Rams, you said that you could see that happening. Raiders,

Speaker 11 I could see it happening.

Speaker 6 Steelers, I could see it happening.

Speaker 11 Titans, don't see that happening.

Speaker 1 Colts, don't see that happening. Browns, don't see that happening.
Giants

Speaker 11 could see that happening.

Speaker 1 Okay, interesting.

Speaker 11 So, I gave you four teams that I could see, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he's definitely playing.

Speaker 11 I believe he's going to play, yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Kelsey's coming back, right?

Speaker 11 He is training and preparing as if he's going to come back. Well, you never know.
What if Marvel Studios comes and says, hey, we want you like...

Speaker 1 We need more Kelsey.

Speaker 11 Yeah, but he's preparing and planning to come back. Plans change.
But yes, they think he's going to be back. I think he thinks he's going to be back.
But we'll see what happens.

Speaker 6 I'm not a comic book guy.

Speaker 6 Is there a role that Marvel would be looking at and be like, this is Kelsey?

Speaker 11 Well, I could see him doing, like, he's... Such a big personality and so charismatic, like, he could do anything he wants.
So if they want to turn him into some movie star,

Speaker 11 they want to turn him into the next rock.

Speaker 11 Couldn't you see that? I could see that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would like, I mean,

Speaker 1 I would like to see him retire and try to play on a level playing field podcasting-wise with us because we're not in the NFL. We retired long ago.

Speaker 11 Their podcast, they make a lot more money than you guys, right? I know you guys well, but they've really done it.

Speaker 1 Well, because

Speaker 1 they sold out. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Their corporate stooges owned by Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 6 Damn. Not us.

Speaker 1 The problem is, I don't know who we could say that about for Shefty. As someone makes more money than Ed Smith.

Speaker 1 As he made Smith, oh, yeah. But no, no, no.
He makes a podcast. He'll come back if he makes significantly more money than you, right, Chef?

Speaker 11 Absolutely. Yeah.
And deserves to. And I'm okay with that.
But for my podcast, I've never made any money from my podcast. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you guys have. Because you changed the name.

Speaker 11 You guys have made far more money than I have in my podcast.

Speaker 1 We have. We've made a very good living.

Speaker 6 Congratulations.

Speaker 1 They've done well.

Speaker 11 We turned 40 years old to hit it the way you guys have.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good years left in us. That's pretty good, yeah.

Speaker 11 You might not have any jumpsuits where you've had a lot of of success.

Speaker 1 Well, they all got stolen. Yeah.
No,

Speaker 6 it's been a wild ride, but the Kelseys, they do need to equit it with the antics and just get on as two normal guys doing a podcast. Let's see if they can.

Speaker 1 Let's see if they can do it.

Speaker 6 I don't know if they can. I don't think they can.

Speaker 11 I mean, the level of success that they've achieved with that is incredible.

Speaker 1 All right, let's not. I mean, we're higher.
So, you too. You too.
You're too. Let's not fuck up.
That's crazy. It's fun.
Yeah, I mean, if you're not going to be able to do

Speaker 6 the most famous person in the world, it's pretty easy to get their listens up.

Speaker 1 They launched a podcast. He started dating Taylor Swift, and they played in a Super Bowl against each other.

Speaker 1 Try to do that on a, you know,

Speaker 1 pick us up one-on-one in the middle of August when we're debating, you know, the color of yellow cheese or American cheese. Yeah.
See us there.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 they couldn't pull that off.

Speaker 1 They're playing from the red tees.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're back on the championship team. Exactly.

Speaker 11 And you guys have played like champions.

Speaker 1 Yes, we have played like champions. Thank you, Sean.
All right. So

Speaker 11 I've seen PFT drive 400 yards. Yeah, he's got it.

Speaker 1 You have seen that?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Also, thank you for the Christmas presents or for the holiday presents.

Speaker 1 Incredible. Yep.
Yeah. Incredible.

Speaker 1 I don't know how you get the blankets to smell nice, too.

Speaker 11 We do that. We take care of them.
Yeah, they could come together.

Speaker 1 It smells nice.

Speaker 6 It's Blake's favorite place to lay. It's my dog's favorite blanket.

Speaker 11 Hey, you know what? My wife got those blankets in dog beds.

Speaker 11 Like, they're unbelievable. They're very soft.

Speaker 1 So we did Rogers, we did Stafford. What about Sam Darnolds?

Speaker 11 I think when I see crazy Dolpho Mensa, their GM of the Vikings, talk the way he did in such glowing terms about J.J. McCarthy to me that says, like, okay, they're setting it up for J.J.
to be the guy.

Speaker 11 That's what it seems like. I think they would like Sam Beck, but they'd like Sam back at their number.

Speaker 11 And so, again, where's Matthew Stafford going? Is he going to the Rams? Is he going to the Raiders? Is he going to the Giants? Because

Speaker 11 I think if he doesn't wind up with the Raiders, I think Sam Darnold potentially could come into play with the Raiders. I could see that happening.

Speaker 11 You need the domino of Stafford to fall to begin to place the other quarterback chess pieces. But Sam Darnold, I think he'll do well.
But to me, it feels like Minnesota is shaping up to be J.J.

Speaker 11 McCarthy, and we'll see what here happens here in the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 All right, interesting. What about Cleveland?

Speaker 6 What can Cleveland do at the quarterback position?

Speaker 11 To me, they have to draft a quarterback with their first pick, which I assume to to be two, but maybe they go up to one to lock it in, the guy they want.

Speaker 11 They're not very far from the top, and Tennessee could go back one slot and get basically whoever they want if they're not going to go quarterback.

Speaker 11 And the Titans are still going through their process.

Speaker 11 They've spoken to teams and told them we're interested in talking, but we need to get through our process first, go through the combine, go through pro days before they derive their decision about what they're going to do at one.

Speaker 11 Cleveland, to me, I predict it'll be a quarterback period. I think they have to do a quarterback.
They're that high, they're that financially strapped with Deshaun Watson. There's that much of a need.

Speaker 11 You need something to uplift the spirits of the organization. I believe the Browns go quarterback.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. Okay.

Speaker 1 What about what's a story that you've got? Maybe not a prediction, but like something that we don't see coming. You're usually good at that.
Or like something to just say,

Speaker 1 here's a tickler file. This guy might, you know, not play forever, or this guy, this coach.

Speaker 1 Anything on the horizon? A league rule?

Speaker 1 Oh, is the Tush push going to get banned?

Speaker 11 I don't think so. Like, how do you ban that?

Speaker 1 It seems like sort of loser stuff.

Speaker 11 It just seems like, okay, so you can't push the Tush. By the way, their success rate in that play is, what is it, 92%.
So if we take away, you can't touch his Tush. Yep.

Speaker 11 And Jalen Hurts is still sneaking behind. Makai Beckton and Jordan Maelata and Lane Johnson.
Like, don't you think he's still going to succeed on that play 75% of the time?

Speaker 11 So I don't know.

Speaker 11 And by the way, what about the plays where the running back's in the open field and all of a sudden people are pushing him?

Speaker 11 What about the plays with a wide receiver tight end catches a pass and they're being, that's not allowed either, right? Because we're not allowed to push anybody anymore.

Speaker 11 Is the quarterback sneak now banned? Yeah. Or it's just banned where you just can't touch the guy?

Speaker 11 Look, I've heard more opposition to it this week than I thought I would, but I don't know that there's a way to legislate it out of the game right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, interesting.

Speaker 6 All right. So what's going on with Tom Brady and the Raiders? How active is he?

Speaker 1 He's been active.

Speaker 6 Is he like calling shots out there?

Speaker 11 His voice is being heard. I don't know that he's the final guy, but I think that Tom has a lot of say there, and he should.
He's smart, hardworking, bright guy.

Speaker 11 I think that they brought him in for a reason, and

Speaker 11 he's been involved in all this.

Speaker 6 Do we care at all about the ethics of Tom Brady owning a team and then also participating?

Speaker 11 I think it's crazy.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 11 Like, so by the way, so he can't go to practice to watch what the Chiefs are doing when he could watch it on tape. You don't think that Tom Brady is smart to go back and look at the tape.

Speaker 11 If they are in production meetings, I would hope and think that

Speaker 11 if you are uncomfortable, if you are the Chiefs or Broncos or Chargers and you're uncomfortable that Tom Brady is broadcast, then

Speaker 11 don't give all the information. Withhold what you need to withhold.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 11 Or say, Tom, you can't come in the meeting. Right.
Like, Tom's still, they're not hiring him to be, I'm a reporter. Tom Brady has played this game at a high level for a long time.

Speaker 11 They hired him because he has done things, seen things, been through things that none of us ever have. That's what he's supposed to be bringing to the game.

Speaker 11 So if they never allow him in a production meeting and never allow him in a practice, to me, that doesn't matter in the way that Tom Brady's doing his job. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.
All right. So we talked about the 18 game.
Is there ever going to be a chance for a double buy? Because I feel like, or is that no chance?

Speaker 1 Two buys.

Speaker 11 I think that'd be a part of the. About the 18 games?

Speaker 11 By the way, if I were the NFL or the NFL PA, and I'm coming to the players, we know how much the players don't want to play an 18th game, and I understand why that would be the case.

Speaker 11 But if I'm asking you, you guys played in the NFL, and I said to you, would you rather have a 17-game season with one buy or an 18-game season with two buys. What would you rather have?

Speaker 1 I'd rather have two buys.

Speaker 6 Two buys, but also I would play for free. I would, too.
Because I care so much. You would.
I love the game.

Speaker 1 I'd actually pay them. Well,

Speaker 1 I'd pay them to be able to play.

Speaker 6 But I think the double buy, I like the double buy.

Speaker 11 Double buy, 18 games. And I know you guys are doing it for free, but there's going to be a lot more money, a lot more money involved.
Yeah. Because we can now sell the extra TV package, right? Right.

Speaker 11 So, okay, I'll take the extra buy, the extra money. And then, and by the way, football could always do load management like basketball.

Speaker 6 No, we don't

Speaker 6 want to.

Speaker 1 I've always thought that the solution to the double buy is there just needs to be a universal buy where college football has their playoff now.

Speaker 1 So whatever it is, early December, every team's on a buy, and then you have college football games on that Sunday.

Speaker 1 And also you give everyone a chance to do their Christmas shopping, like, you know, check in, be like, like the universal buy, a check-in with everyone, kind of reset the whole world for the home stretch.

Speaker 11 Well, it's sort of like the NBA does for the All-Star break. The sport shuts down for basically a week.
Yeah. Right?

Speaker 1 Excluding the game, yeah.

Speaker 11 I mean, I think you're talking about taking that. I don't like when the NBA does that.
I kind of, like, as a guy who plays fantasy basketball and loves it, I kind of miss it that way.

Speaker 11 How'd you do this year?

Speaker 1 Or how are you doing?

Speaker 11 I'm in second place, but my team, it's kind of ham and egg.

Speaker 1 How'd you do in fantasy football this year?

Speaker 11 I lost in the opening round of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Great regular season. Brutal.

Speaker 1 Are you interested in potentially taking on another team, not as a day-to-day manager, but more in a ownership role where you would oversee the

Speaker 1 day-to-day manager?

Speaker 11 In fantasy? Yeah.

Speaker 11 I think I'm as much fantasied out as I can be.

Speaker 11 I allow it to consume my thoughts and dictate my moods.

Speaker 1 But again, you wouldn't have to.

Speaker 1 You would just have to manage a person managing the team.

Speaker 11 I know.

Speaker 11 I don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 Jerry O'Connell is the person we're talking about. We're looking to fill a role where he needs someone kind of holding his hand.

Speaker 6 It's almost like so he knows that somebody's watching him. Right.
We really want to strike fear.

Speaker 11 I do that with a lot of people already.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah. A lot of people that reach out, like constantly texting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we would like to, we want to figure out a way to add more bureaucratic red tape to our fantasy operation where we just have multiple layers of managers. Would you be interested?

Speaker 11 Probably not. Slot you into that middle management.

Speaker 11 I don't like middle manager. I don't like bureaucracy.
I kind of want to do this just because Jerry would text Chef or not.

Speaker 6 Can we just say,

Speaker 11 I got certain guys that already do that.

Speaker 1 yeah here's the here's the deal uh what if we just it requires no work on your part you just accept the title as in title only yes in title only in title only five governing owner okay that's fine governing owner of jerry o'connell we're the we're the principal owners of the operation so we're atop of you you're fronting it we're yeah we're on top of you we front the money but you will be the governing owner in name only of jerry o'connell figure it and is there anything for me to gain by the yeah uh like immortality if we win.

Speaker 6 And also just power.

Speaker 1 A spot on the wall of fame.

Speaker 11 No, if we win, you will.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'll tell you this.

Speaker 1 If we win the fantasy league this year, when we do the trophy presentation, PFT and I obviously will hold the trophy first. You will hold the trophy second, then Jerry O'Connell.

Speaker 11 That sounds fair to me.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, really, what you get out of it, aside from the trophy, potentially, is you get power over Jerry O'Connell, which means that you can fire him at any given time.

Speaker 6 You don't have to do anything, but if you wake up one day and you're like, it's time for a change, we got to shake things up in the locker room.

Speaker 1 And that way

Speaker 1 when Jerry gets mad at us that he got fired, we'd be like, it wasn't us, it was Shefty. Yeah.
Like me.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Everybody else does.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Yeah.
Speaking of that, how mad are Chiefs fans at you?

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 11 I didn't get that either.

Speaker 1 So explain what happened, how it all went down.

Speaker 11 The story was, like, they're expanding replay assist to include slides. I remember writing a story and being like, okay, well,

Speaker 1 what does this mean?

Speaker 11 Like, like the slide of Patrick Holmes, it wasn't directed.

Speaker 1 I don't care.

Speaker 11 Like, I don't feel like there's some vendetta. I wasn't trying to stir up anything.
And all of a sudden, I got people going nuts about that.

Speaker 11 That was not my intent.

Speaker 11 I didn't like that it became that.

Speaker 6 And it was unfortunate, the whole thing.

Speaker 1 What fan base hates you the most?

Speaker 11 It depends on the time. There was a time when, I mean, we could go through this.
There have been various fan bases that have hated me at various points.

Speaker 1 What's the worst it's gotten with a fan base?

Speaker 11 You know,

Speaker 11 Again, two weeks ago, it would have been Kansas City. Aaron Rodgers, when he was the Packers, it was Green Bay.

Speaker 1 It's just whatever's in the news.

Speaker 11 It's what's ever in the news at that time.

Speaker 6 The Jets? Did the Jets hate you this year?

Speaker 11 I don't think so. Maybe, unless you know something I don't.
No memes is shaking his head.

Speaker 1 He's clean. No, he's clean.
He's not a florio? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 It's just, you know, you're not going to be able to please all the people all the time.

Speaker 6 Sometimes when you deliver bad news, they do shoot the message.

Speaker 11 I always shoot the message. I try to deliver literally black and white, factual information.
O.J. Simpson died.

Speaker 1 Facts. He did.
He died. That's it.

Speaker 1 You got it right. You got the story right.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 6 So what about this name for potentially being on the move? Max Crosby.

Speaker 11 I don't think they'll part ways with a guy like that that means so much to their city. That's so important, especially with the way that Mark Davis has felt about him.

Speaker 11 But we've got a whole slew of defensive ends here who are going to get paid this offseason. Like you got TJ Watt, maybe Miles Garrett, Cleveland, or somewhere else.

Speaker 11 You've got Trey Hendrickson who's got to get paid.

Speaker 11 There are a whole host of defensive ends that are going to get paid a lot of money. So I'm sure the Raiders are preparing to sign Max Crosby through a lucrative extension that he deserves.

Speaker 11 But if they're not, then they should look the deal. And by the way, they're rebuilding, although I'm sure they don't feel that way.
He would be the most valuable chip that they have.

Speaker 11 That guy's an unbelievable player.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 One more gun to your head.

Speaker 11 Oh, goddamn. Get him up.

Speaker 1 Next quarterback.

Speaker 1 Next quarterback, Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 Sound guy, yes. Get in there.
Yeah. Fuck yes.
Get him, memes.

Speaker 1 You get it. Scan the room.

Speaker 11 Do I have to answer with my hands up? Yes.

Speaker 1 Pittsburgh Steelers, next quarterback.

Speaker 11 Steelers, next quarterback? Yeah.

Speaker 11 Russell Wilson or Justin Fields?

Speaker 1 No way. All right.

Speaker 6 They're staying put.

Speaker 11 Really? One of them will be back.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 11 One of them I expect to be back.

Speaker 1 Which one?

Speaker 1 Russell Wilson. Okay.
Sussy for Russian. Sussy's back.
Or sussying for Russi.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 6 What about Jameis Winston? What's the market expected to look like for Jameis Winston?

Speaker 11 I'd want him on my team. Yep.
Seven days of seven days.

Speaker 11 I don't know where he's going to wind up going, but boy, that guy is he's fun.

Speaker 1 He makes somebody very happy. He's a lot of fun.
He's a lot of fun. All right.
I got one last question. Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 What is Shefty doing for vacation this year? You deserve a vacation.

Speaker 11 What are you doing?

Speaker 1 When is it happening? What are you doing? No vacation?

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 11 We have zero planned.

Speaker 1 Ah, come on.

Speaker 11 You know,

Speaker 11 it's always nice after the draft when you enter a quiet period. There always is going to be something.

Speaker 11 And as I say with the NFL, whatever happens on May 4th or May 18th, the schedule release, that becomes the biggest thing.

Speaker 11 And when there's nothing else to talk about, and there's that one thing that happens that day, some player signs an extension, some player gets cut, some player gets in trouble, like that becomes the biggest thing because that's how everything is with the NFL.

Speaker 11 And there's always something. And I just feel like the job is, even at that time, you just.
You're always on alert. You're always on guard.
So vacation, I will say this.

Speaker 11 I'd love to go on a vacation where you could disconnect and turn everything off. I haven't done that in my adult life.
Why don't you do it?

Speaker 1 We'll handle it. We'll just take your phone.

Speaker 11 By the way, if I give you the phone, then we could give you the active phone next to the

Speaker 6 career too bad.

Speaker 1 No, just a little bit.

Speaker 11 But no vacations planned.

Speaker 1 Okay. Zero.

Speaker 11 My kids have been after me. My kids really want to go to Italy.
Really. Take them to Italy.
You know what? I was talking to this guy last summer, and he's like, he was turning 70.

Speaker 11 I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm renting a house in Italy for a month, and I'm inviting my friends and some of my family. Anybody who wants to come can come.

Speaker 11 Anybody who doesn't doesn't have to. And I thought, that's a really cool idea.
Yeah. My kids want to do that.

Speaker 1 Would we get the invite?

Speaker 11 Well, in a couple of years, I'll be 60. Yeah.
58.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 you guys

Speaker 11 if we do do that, if I would say, I can't make it, but I would love the invite.

Speaker 6 I would stop in.

Speaker 1 Yeah. By the way, like.

Speaker 6 I'd stay the entire month. You'd have to do it.

Speaker 11 There was a good time for this. Like, my daughter will be finishing high school.
Yeah. My ESPN contract will be up.
I'll be 60.

Speaker 11 So maybe we just shut it all out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you think about that at all with Wodes retiring? Like, that had to have crossed your mind.

Speaker 11 Listen, I have so much respect for what he did. My wife would never let let me do the same thing.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 6 Become athletic director of Michigan?

Speaker 11 You know, that day when he did that, I got 20 techs. Like, are you taking the GM job in Michigan? There's a whole new industry now.
Like, there's a whole new world out there of GMs in college. And

Speaker 11 listen, I love Woach. He's one of my dear friends.

Speaker 11 When we talked about him doing this,

Speaker 11 I did my best initially to say, hey, just think of the other side. Think about this.
Do one more year.

Speaker 11 He was done.

Speaker 1 Good for him. He was respect the health.

Speaker 1 It's unbelievable. Yeah.

Speaker 11 And people are just like, oh, you think a couple of people like, you think Woj was sorry he wasn't working for the Luka trade? I'm like, Woge couldn't give a crap. That's all.

Speaker 11 He didn't work on the Luka trade.

Speaker 6 My dream scenario is that he got the text for the Luca trade. He got it on his phone.
He looked at it and he goes, That's the old me. Close his phone, threw it away, like, threw it into the ocean.

Speaker 1 Oh, I forgot. Che, you got some questions?

Speaker 6 Also, Shefty, you look good for 58.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you do. Thank you.

Speaker 1 You might be daddy.

Speaker 6 Is Shefter daddy? Schetter might be daddy. What does that mean?

Speaker 1 When you know it, you're daddy. Well, this is what as you age, like you're going to get the, like, the first 60 years of being someone who's maybe not tall, I would say.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Might not be the best. But then as you get older, like small dogs live a long time.

Speaker 11 Yeah, and I, and you do shrink over time. Right.
So you, yeah. I don't know much to shrink from.

Speaker 1 You'll be like in our back pocket in 20 years.

Speaker 6 Before Che Memes does have one question question for you that I'll ask. Are the Jets going to trade up to one or two?

Speaker 11 What are they? Seven?

Speaker 6 Are they seven memes? Yeah, there's seven.

Speaker 11 I don't see them going up to one or two. They got holes to address, and it would take a lot to get up there.

Speaker 11 Look, could it happen? Sure.

Speaker 11 I haven't heard that today.

Speaker 6 We'll see what happens. Memes is happening.

Speaker 11 Do you want them to trade up to one?

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 6 He just had you kill a bunch of rumors, though. Apparently,

Speaker 1 tons of rumors.

Speaker 11 So I do. I kill meth.

Speaker 1 I kill rumors yeah and oj simpson and oj simps uh okay chat a lot of people today that's actually the perfect segue we're taping this wednesday this is not going to be a perfect segue

Speaker 16 we're taping this wednesday before the on-field drill starts is there there are four guys kind of at the top of the draft uh cam ward abdul carter travis hunter shador sanders is there anyone that's either here or you know sitting at home doing pro day soon that could see a trayvon walker type rise to the top pick

Speaker 11 you know what i'm not smart enough to answer that right now. Okay.
Because I'm just not living in that world.

Speaker 11 Phil Yates would answer that question and be spot on, but I couldn't answer that today because I just don't know.

Speaker 16 All right, that's fair. I'll replace it with this question.

Speaker 1 It was a good segue. Yeah, great segue, but bad question.
Bad question.

Speaker 16 We talked a lot about quarterbacks. Is there any world where Daniel Jones is a starting quarterback? Yes,

Speaker 1 September. Yes.
Good question.

Speaker 11 Yes. In fact, I've actually had his name come up with head coaches I've spoken to.

Speaker 1 Whoa,

Speaker 11 I'm like, oh, so,

Speaker 11 you know, what if, you know, you can't get that Daniel Jones. Like, I've heard the name.
So

Speaker 11 I think there's a market for him. I also think that if Sam Darnold leaves, Minnesota would be a natural spot for him to be.
And I think that's part of the reason the Vikings brought him in.

Speaker 11 But is there a scenario where he could wind up as a starter? I think there is.

Speaker 6 Can you tell us

Speaker 6 what division those coaches have been in?

Speaker 11 It was one coach.

Speaker 1 It was one coach. It was just one coach.

Speaker 11 Just brought it up.

Speaker 6 And it was that team.

Speaker 1 It was what team?

Speaker 1 Was it the Vikings?

Speaker 11 No. No.

Speaker 6 What conference?

Speaker 1 What color?

Speaker 6 What conference was the team?

Speaker 1 Conference and color?

Speaker 11 It was in the National Football League.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. You got one more question, Sharon?

Speaker 16 Yes.

Speaker 16 So we just had... I don't know what Davies you're hearing, but Liam Cohen was in yesterday.
So James Gladstone.

Speaker 11 By the way, did you, when Liam was in here.

Speaker 1 yeah, no, I gave him the business.

Speaker 11 Did you get after him at all or nothing? Oh, yes.

Speaker 1 He didn't give him the business.

Speaker 11 What you said? What did you say to him?

Speaker 1 How dare he?

Speaker 16 I did not like the way that went down personally. We kind of

Speaker 16 made amends. My feelings were hurt.

Speaker 1 You got his feelings hurt. But I understand.

Speaker 16 The pay difference is astronomical, and he wanted to be a head coach, and I get it.

Speaker 11 Listen, we all agree with that. Like, you get only so many chances to get one of those jobs.
One of 32. Yep.
A salary of eight figures.

Speaker 11 You can't turn that down, right? But, you know, everyone went over. She just told him, I'm going to talk to him.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 16 So James Gladstone hire this week, actually, 34 years old in Jacksonville. Who's to say what's going to happen if he succeeds and if Liam Cohen succeeds? How does this change?

Speaker 16 Do you see this having a giant ripple effect in the NFL front offices? Like, are they going to start hiring young guys now? Because he's a mainly analytical guy, I understand.

Speaker 1 Might have a Jaguars obsession. Well,

Speaker 11 when I heard him talk, and you guys met him,

Speaker 11 I still haven't spoken with him in person. I've texted him, but like, he's talking about revolutionizing.
He uses words that I haven't heard GMs use.

Speaker 11 And very new age, very

Speaker 11 2025.

Speaker 11 I think that if whatever he does works, I think it would open up the idea that people would be more open to hiring younger GMs.

Speaker 11 Just like when Sean McVay came in, he was hired at the age of 31, I believe. And all of a sudden, it became acceptable to hire a very young head coach.
But there's only so many Sean McVays.

Speaker 11 And if James Gladstone succeeds, there aren't that many people

Speaker 11 that age who can step into a job of that magnitude and handle it as adeptly as he would if he's succeeding like you're saying he's going to.

Speaker 1 Okay. No question.
It's like you have one more. He's like doge, but for front office.
Yeah.

Speaker 16 Two guys rumored to be on the move, which would just love to hear potential landing spots. You could see these guys.

Speaker 16 Khalil Mack,

Speaker 16 Debo Samuel.

Speaker 11 Khalil Mack, the Chargers, are definitely trying to get back.

Speaker 11 And the interesting part about that is, I think, after everybody saw the success that the Eagles had in the Super Bowl, and with the salary cap taking a bigger jump than people expected, the pass rushers like Josh Sweat, like Khalil Mack, even Milton Williams inside.

Speaker 11 And I'm going to see if I say his name right. Osa

Speaker 11 Igad the guy in Dallas. I was

Speaker 11 like,

Speaker 11 I got that right. I think these guys are going to get more money than people are expecting.
And I think the Eagles help make the pass rushers more money in this free agent market.

Speaker 11 The Chargers are going to work to get back Khalil Mack. There's a question about about whether they'll be able to keep Joey Bosso.
They were in this spot last year.

Speaker 11 I can't imagine you're going to lose both guys. We'll see how that works out with them.

Speaker 11 And then

Speaker 1 Debo.

Speaker 11 Like I said, the one thing I could say on Debo is

Speaker 11 I think there's been more interest than people

Speaker 11 thought there would be. And I know that I've seen it out there that the Niners would have to release him because of the cap situation and designate him a June one.

Speaker 1 I don't agree with that.

Speaker 11 I think they're going to be able to trade him. Good.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Good job, Tri.
Thanks. Cooper Cup.

Speaker 11 I think

Speaker 11 unbelievable wide receiver,

Speaker 11 aging, older right now.

Speaker 1 He's filling time.

Speaker 11 No, no, no. I could see.
I'm trying to think I want to answer this, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're filling time.

Speaker 1 You know, I could see. Cool name to say.
Good beard.

Speaker 1 Did that breakfast club with Matthew Stafford? Really hard worker.

Speaker 1 Great story.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 1 White. Yeah.
White.

Speaker 1 Kiss. Very white.
Kiss. Yeah.
Good at basketball.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What else can you say about the guy? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He could be on the move. He's going to be on the move.

Speaker 1 Triple Crown.

Speaker 11 Again, I think the Rams are going to hope to trade him. I think the salary and the numbers are an issue.

Speaker 11 And I think that's why I'm kind of parsing my words because the question is, is somebody going to trade for that contract? They're going to redo it. What's the contract going to look at?

Speaker 11 I think there are absolutely teams out there that want Cooper Cup. The question is, how much are those teams willing to spend on Cooper Cup?

Speaker 11 And that's really the issue here right now. He's going to have a new home.

Speaker 11 He's going to have suitors. He's going to have interest.
The question is, what is the price going to be? Okay.

Speaker 6 Can you just do something to get me and Big Cat excited and just tell us what players are fun transactions, the Bears and the Commanders should find themselves involved in the next week.

Speaker 1 Like, who are the names that we should be looking at? Offensive.

Speaker 11 Well, Bears, definitely offensively.

Speaker 11 I mean, they're definitely going to upgrade the offensive line. Done.
Don't know who that's going to be just yet, but they're going to be upgrading there.

Speaker 11 The Commanders, like, they're in a spot where they can go

Speaker 11 strengthen this. They're going to be looking for a pass rusher.
They're going to be looking for a wide receiver.

Speaker 11 I think that they'll find a way to add both at some some point here. And

Speaker 11 Jaden Daniels, wow.

Speaker 11 Wow.

Speaker 6 He's special.

Speaker 11 Let me tell you something.

Speaker 6 He's so good. He's,

Speaker 11 and the amazing thing is, like, as I always say, people in this business, people get it and people don't get it. Jaden Daniels gets it.
He gets it.

Speaker 1 He gets it.

Speaker 11 Like, that guy is on it. I happened to be around him at the Super Bowl, came over, taught, like,

Speaker 11 I was really impressed with that guy.

Speaker 1 He gets it. Special.

Speaker 1 He is.

Speaker 11 PFT is set

Speaker 1 next 14, 16 years.

Speaker 6 14 to 16.

Speaker 1 He had one great season. Love that.

Speaker 6 He left the breaks just a little bit.

Speaker 1 I do love him. I am in love with him.

Speaker 11 I go back to what somebody in that organization told me was like 10, 12 games into the season. I go, this quarterback, they said this quarterback covers up a lot of the sins of the organization.
Yes.

Speaker 11 Not everybody's at his level, and the rest of the team is okay.

Speaker 11 It's a decent team, but the quarterback is exceptional, and because he's exceptional, everybody else gets out of it.

Speaker 1 Great quarterback. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 1 All right, Chefty, you're the best. Thank you as always.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.
That's it, huh? Yeah. You had a good year.
We had a good year. Not a lot of, not a lot of people.

Speaker 1 We had some stuff. Yeah, we had some stuff, but not a lot of problems.
And I do want that phone.

Speaker 11 We need that phone. Done.

Speaker 11 On the Wall of Fame. Yes.
The first Wall of Fame that I'm ever going to be on

Speaker 11 the high school Wall of Fame. Yes.

Speaker 1 I'm in. Sign me up.
All right. Thanks so much, Chefty.

Speaker 11 Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 1 Breaking Moose. NBA Centaur is back.
We did it. We did it.
And the time it took, we did it.

Speaker 1 Also, you've now listened to the Adam Schefter interview, and we have not hired him, but he is being considered in name only

Speaker 1 to be ahead of, on top of Jerry O'Connell in the organization chart. In name only.

Speaker 6 In terms of just the ability to fire Jerry.

Speaker 1 Jerry would not have to talk to Adam, which he should. If he was smart, he would use him as a resource.
So it would be in name only.

Speaker 6 Is he a direct report to Adam Schefter?

Speaker 1 I think he would have to direct report. Jerry doesn't realize having Shefty be part of the organization would be incredible.

Speaker 1 Jerry has no problem texting anyone at any time. He could text Sheet.

Speaker 9 He has to deal with the kid, it sounds like.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But Shefty does.
But that came out of nowhere.

Speaker 9 Yeah, that's not necessarily on the table. Right.

Speaker 6 The kids aren't involved in this.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Okay, Firefest of the week. Hank.

Speaker 9 Not much this week, more of just a follow-up from last week.

Speaker 9 I got got by the toll scam,

Speaker 9 which has proceeded to essentially happen nationwide across the country. I got it texted to me.
I have gotten some of them,

Speaker 9 like, it seems like everyone in the world has got sent this text because I've gotten sent, you know, the text from a million people being like, look, I got it too. I got it, too, I got it, too.

Speaker 9 A lot of AWS being like, I got it too. But some of them are coming from hotmail accounts, which makes mine look so much worse because it's like, how did you get got by a hotmail account?

Speaker 9 Mine was texted from a real phone number, at least.

Speaker 6 You got got by a much, a much more believable text.

Speaker 1 What was the phone number? Because I got the text.

Speaker 9 It was kind of a random phone number.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I saw it and I was like, I cannot believe Hank fell for this.

Speaker 9 It was in the middle. It was like, it was in the middle of the day.

Speaker 9 I was just kind of like, we had 20 minutes downtime and I got the text and I just was like, all right, let me take care of business real quick.

Speaker 9 It was still bad, but it wasn't a Hotmail account.

Speaker 9 But the amount of people that have gotten texts from Hotmail accounts and are hitting me up being like, you idiot, how could you ever get caught by this?

Speaker 6 It's a tough look. Yeah, I got one just the other day from area code plus63.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's where you should have. That was mine as well.
Plus 63, Hank.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 9 But I thought that might have been like an automated thing. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I was getting this for like, I wasn't here last week when you were talking about it.

Speaker 1 Oh, where were you?

Speaker 2 I was on vacation.

Speaker 2 I was getting this for like months straight from this same toll thing. And then the weirdest part was at one point, so like a real person was texting my brother, being like,

Speaker 2 hey,

Speaker 2 is your brother this person? I keep getting toll things sent to my house. Please pay now.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 2 Like, or

Speaker 2 like, this is getting really annoying. Please pay this toll thing now.

Speaker 2 Which is weird. That's the weirdest.

Speaker 9 Did you do it?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 2 But it was one of those things where I texted Mike. I was like, this isn't legit, right? And he was like, no.

Speaker 6 They're destroying families. They're making

Speaker 1 breakup families.

Speaker 6 Yeah, they're turning brother against brother.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I don't know how the scammer got my brother's contact information.

Speaker 2 Damn. And he was sending pictures of real

Speaker 2 letters addressed to me from this poll thing.

Speaker 6 That's a good scam, though.

Speaker 6 Your brother owes a lot of money. Please tell him to pay.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So, wait, so what's your update that you still can't believe you got scammed?

Speaker 9 My update is I'm a fool for getting scammed, and I regret even talking about it because I've gotten hit up non-stop for the past week of people basically just being like, I got this text too.

Speaker 9 You're an idiot.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you are kind of an idiot for me.

Speaker 1 No, you're a big-time idiot. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 So it's, yeah, it's a double fire fest.

Speaker 6 But it's kind of nice having to get your card reset because then all the subscriptions that you need that out.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it cleans it out for you naturally. Yeah.

Speaker 2 This is why you should just never, you should never pay anything.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah, good point.

Speaker 2 If anyone ever like yells at you for not paying something, you'd be like, oh, I thought it was a scam. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my bad.

Speaker 1 And then when they're like, no, but you actually have to pay, be like, are you sure? You seem like a scam.

Speaker 6 Yeah, close out your bar tab.

Speaker 6 This seems like it's fraudulent. Yeah, that's a scam.

Speaker 1 Okay, PFT?

Speaker 6 I had a pretty good week this week, I would say. My Fire Fest is that I have fallen deeply in love with a house that I'm not going to buy.

Speaker 6 And I'm obsessed with this house. And I can't stop looking at this house and just thinking about it.
It's like 60 acres. They call it a hobby farm.

Speaker 6 It's got like a gym, a little basketball hoop. I look at it every single day.

Speaker 9 You love farming, so I can understand.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, no, I got so deep. Do you have a lot of time to farm?

Speaker 6 I got so deep in this obsession with a house that I'm not going to buy, I started to look up what kind of crops grow out here and what I could plant on the farm that I'm not going to purchase.

Speaker 6 But I'm obsessed with it. I look at the house probably two or three times a day and just think, yeah, that's where my corn would go.
You should just get some snow peas right there.

Speaker 6 Well, the thing is, when you get a farm, it's not just like waking up and like your cows are happy to see you at the front door and then you go about your business. You actually have to work.

Speaker 1 By the way, you should pay someone else to do it. His farm is in Wisconsin, too.

Speaker 2 How far away is it?

Speaker 6 It's like an hour and a half away.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 2 we'd never see you. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, no, no, we would see him the same amount of time. His cows would never see him.
Yeah, they would all die. Like, that's the part.

Speaker 1 But I don't think PFT would be like, I'm going to farm, see you boys later. He would just buy a farm and be like, like, farm, I'm never going to see you.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 I even looked up how many chickens I could keep there. I started looking at ducks and goats.

Speaker 1 Are chickens like cats? You can just leave out food for them?

Speaker 6 Yeah, basically. They take care of themselves.

Speaker 2 I'd have to call you every morning to make sure you left on time.

Speaker 1 No, no, he's talking about having this as being like a second home. Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, where he, again, he would never go to this farm. I thought you were talking about just moving.
No, no, no.

Speaker 6 I would summer at the farm. The cows would be like, no, where have you been? We're all dying.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 We all have brocelosis. Give us medicine.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sounds like a terrible house.

Speaker 6 I even looked up cattle diseases that I should need to be on the lookout for.

Speaker 9 Yeah, but Max, it has a basketball court. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We don't have a basketball court. PFT, known lover of playing basketball.
It's got a gym.

Speaker 1 You also have a gym.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I know, but this is, we don't have a farm. Does it have a lake?

Speaker 1 There's no lake. Oh, this is pointless.

Speaker 1 That's a good point, Max.

Speaker 6 There's a lake very close by.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 There's a lake very close by to here. Yeah, you need a fish.

Speaker 6 No, this lake is closer.

Speaker 6 This lake is way closer.

Speaker 1 This lake is the Chicago.

Speaker 6 It's sad, though, because I've been showing everybody this house, and everybody is like pumped for me to continue thinking about buying the house that I'm not going to buy, except for you guys.

Speaker 1 Who has given you

Speaker 1 reinforcement about this? You guys are the only ones

Speaker 6 who are taking big, steamy dumps on my day damage.

Speaker 1 We're not taking dumps on it. It just, it makes no sense.

Speaker 1 Listen, the house is sick. You showed me it.

Speaker 6 I think you guys don't believe I can farm.

Speaker 2 Just get a lake house.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 There's houses on lakes. Right.
Yeah. Right.
That would be

Speaker 1 rich. Where are you going to buy a lake house?

Speaker 6 Where are the goats going to live on a lake? Who cares?

Speaker 1 Who needs goats?

Speaker 2 You have dogs. Your dog is big.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Well, I'd have to get more dogs for the farm.

Speaker 1 Just get it. Just get dogs at a lake house.

Speaker 9 Who has given you positive reinforcement about getting this house?

Speaker 6 Everybody that I've showed to, and I've showed

Speaker 6 probably dozens of people.

Speaker 1 Name one name.

Speaker 6 My friend Brian.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 and he doesn't have to work with you though no he doesn't but he said he thought this is the farm yeah i would visit the farm was he but was it like you should do this or was it like oh that's cool and he's like awesome yeah you should get it

Speaker 1 visiting a farm is cool visiting a lake is so much cooler yes and also a key word is visiting too yeah no i would like you to have a lake and you to get a boat as well again i'm not going to buy this farm but i am obsessed with thinking about buying the farm yeah that part i totally understand i look at zillow all the time being like oh shit look at this house in malibu look at this house in monte i'm never gonna buy any of it every time you go on mobile you have to look at yeah what a property

Speaker 1 doing the fantasy fan is fantasizing on zillow is everyone does that i'm nervous you might actually try to buy it and then you're going to be like guys i made a mistake i have to move to this farm because every every animal's dying i mean i i think the farm likes can we do zoom episode my cows are dying

Speaker 6 listen i just i want to indulge in fantasizing about buying this but i fear this is the why it's about firefest is because I've become obsessed with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think this is your answer, by the way, Hank.
What would get us to stop podcasting? Even buying this farm. I get a farm.
We bought a farm.

Speaker 6 We bought a zoom. Think of the fans.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but I mean, so you could do squash.

Speaker 1 Fans would lose.

Speaker 6 You could do cucumbers, tomatoes.

Speaker 2 You could do good content on the farm, though.

Speaker 6 Yeah, good content. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What was that game back at Farmville? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd do real life. Yeah, real life.

Speaker 6 I would even maybe grow some weed.

Speaker 6 The possibilities are endless.

Speaker 9 These things you can do at your current house.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could.

Speaker 6 These possibilities. No, no, you can't.
I can't have animals at my current house. You have one.
You have one. I have one.
You could have another. But you guys are forgetting the goats.

Speaker 1 You could get a goat.

Speaker 1 You have a little backyard. You could have your goat live out there.

Speaker 1 All right. My fire fest.
It's a future fire fest. I got an issue you guys can maybe help me with.

Speaker 1 So, my house is stocked with snacks.

Speaker 1 It's always stocked with snacks. I'm a big fruit snacks snacks guy.
Love fruit snacks. Pound them.
Just, I'll open like six of them, make a big pile in my hand, and just eat them.

Speaker 6 I'm Mott's over Welch's myself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I am as well.

Speaker 1 So the problem, though, is my wife buys more fruit snacks because the fruit snacks get eaten. I don't think she realizes I'm the only one eating them.

Speaker 1 And she just bought like a week ago a brand I don't like and it's like the tropical flavor. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I haven't eaten any of them and they're just sitting there and no one's eating them because I don't think she realized that I was the only one eating them and I'm gonna get found out for being the only one who's eating the fruit snacks I don't know what to do you gotta just bring them to the office and give them away yeah just or throw them out yeah I just stared at them last night because I was like oh I want a snack and there's probably 50 bags of these fruit snacks sitting there just not being touched because I was the one who was doing the work.

Speaker 6 Put them out for the birds.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and then I got a million. You figured out one of those fruit snacks till you have seven.
Like, they're

Speaker 9 not a snack. They're not filling at all.
No.

Speaker 1 Listen, if I had opened up my snack closet last night and it was the Spongebob fruit snacks, they'd be gone. I would have taken them all down one side.

Speaker 1 Like, I'll buy a box of 10 and I'll give my kids one to share between the three of them and I'll eat the rest.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 6 The tropical subpar. Gross.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I got to.

Speaker 1 I got to figure out. I think, yeah, maybe bring him in here because I'm right on the cusp.
It's been about a week where I'm going to get found out as being the only one who ever eats the fruit snacks.

Speaker 6 Yeah, bring them in, distribute them.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'll just put them in my kids' bags and just be like, give them to your friends.

Speaker 1 Tell them it's Valentine's Day again.

Speaker 6 Or just put them out on your front step and put a sign that says, please take one. Free fruit snacks.

Speaker 1 Fruits like it's Halloween. Yeah.
I'm trying to get more fruit snacks in this house.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's finish up. We got numbers.

Speaker 1 Monday's show is going to be an awesome show. We got a very Italian show.

Speaker 1 Nick Siriani, awesome interview. And Diana Rossini.
Let's do numbers. Five.
Memes. 11.

Speaker 1 Memes, have you ever gotten this? No.

Speaker 2 I think Memes is going to get it today.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 Max, there's no way he's getting it today. Three.

Speaker 1 I got a good feeling.

Speaker 6 Somebody's going to get it.

Speaker 1 I don't have.

Speaker 1 Somebody, not you. Somebody.

Speaker 1 I'll go 44.

Speaker 1 Come on. 99-3.

Speaker 6 55.

Speaker 1 21. Hank, what was your number? 5.

Speaker 6 What was yours, Pete? He stole my number. I did 40.

Speaker 2 Pug texted me last night in the Seton Hall Villanova game, trying to rub it in my face that Seton Hall was going to beat Villanova, and then they never scored again.

Speaker 10 Oh, that's tough.

Speaker 2 They were at 16 and just never scored again.

Speaker 1 Pug.

Speaker 11 That first half, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was a hell of a first half. Don't forget.

Speaker 6 It's 40. I'm buying this house.

Speaker 1 26.

Speaker 1 26

Speaker 1 Good call memes wrong again memes not only wrong with the number but wrong saying someone's gonna get it love you guys wrong two time