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On today's part of my take, we have a twofer for the people little italian twofer we got super bowl champion nick sirianni awesome interview with coach and then we have one of our favorite recurring guests diana rossini talking some football we are going to talk some football because we had some news over the weekend uh matthew stafford debo sam We're going to do a little national sports podcast talk as well, college basketball. It is March.
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All right, back to part of my take.

Okay, let's go. and my take yeah pardon my take yeah pardon my take yeah pardon my take welcome to pardon my take presented by draft kings take it to the rack with draft king sportsbook every point counts download the draft king sportsbook app and use code take that's code take for new customers to get 150 in bonus bets when you bet just five bucks only on draft kings the crown is yours today is monday march 3rd and we had our first domino in the qb shuffle matthew stafford is staying in los angeles with the rams ski trip didn't work out for tom brady he trip did not work out well it did work out for the rest of us because we got a reporter fight out of it.
But, yes, Matthew Stafford staying with the Rams, which I always thought made the most sense because the Rams were, you could make the argument, like, they played the Eagles the toughest in the playoffs. They almost won that game in the first quarter.
And they had a really bad start to the season, but then they played great down the stretch uh it feels like they still have a window with matthew stafford i think it's a two-year deal i was listening to kelly stafford's podcast okay um and by listen to i mean just like anticipating what she would say my guess is she probably didn't want to leave la i would say so and you're on it like why would you if you're matthew staff it never made sense, want to go to the Giants?

No offense to the Giants, but the Giants aren't going to win a Super Bowl.

The Rams could conceivably, in the next two years, compete for a Super Bowl.

It would be crazy to leave that situation.

So, yeah, he's set, and now it's a question of where Aaron Rodgers will go.

Giants?

Raiders?

I've heard that he's trying to bring Devontae with him again.

Yep.

So he has a wish list, and I feel like if I were aaron i would just want to stay in new york and just go to the other locker room yeah run it back get that solar those solar panels on your house in new jersey finally you know get them fully installed stretch your legs lay down roots there yeah and then it feels like the raiders might be in the sam darnold market from what everyone is saying so i just love that there is a sam darnold market yeah we need we need a sam darnold market and the steelers are just gonna run it back run it back with russie yeah and kirk cousins is gonna be a backup but this was the big because if stafford had gone somewhere else it would obviously had a chain reaction down the line now a lot of people are saying what are the cowboys up to win horse oh what are the cowboys up to because jerry jones he likes to talk jerry loves him some media he did not talk at the combine this year oh he did not address reporters and apparently everybody else from the cowboys is being very quiet so what's what's going on in dallas right now did you see the daac ben dinucci back dac's uh cap hit i believe they'll probably restructure it and kick the can down the road but i i think i saw florio report that dac's cap hit this year is 90 million dollars dac prescott's cap number for 2025 is set to be nearly 90 million dollars a restructuring could drop it as low $51 million. They'll keep kicking the can until they inevitably take a massive cap hit after he's no longer on the team.
$90 million. I don't understand the cap.
That feels like a lot. He took a pretty big cap in Panama City Beach.
This one might be even bigger. Yes.
$100 million is a lot of money to pay anyway. Again, if you're a Cowboys fan, you shouldn't really care.
Whenever like oh you overpaid for this guy who cares it's not your money but if it runs into this situation we're not able to pay anybody else yeah i would say if the team suffers for it you should care yeah uh and this feels like 90 million dollars again they'll probably restructure it we need you know what who's the who's a capologist that we can get on? We need to get a capologist on the show.

Just explain it all to us.

So there's a guy, what's his name?

Jason over the cap.

He runs over the cap.

Okay.

I follow that guy online.

He's good.

Oh, breaking moves.

Breaking moves.

OJ Simpson.

Yeah?

Not in the memorial.

Oh, they didn't include him in the Oscars memorial?

Shefty is.

Punching air.

Well, he's the only one who respects OJ damn we also had uh an awl that's okay i almost could see the oscars honoring oj more than i could see adam shefter honoring him yeah because he was say what was in movies say what you want about him off the field uh but on the silver screen he was pretty good in naked gun yeah way better person than he was actor yes no he was a good actor i mean he wasn't a good actor he was an actor did you see him try to put the glove on that's true doesn't fit it's true that's true uh yeah just a couple jokes about a double murder i mean when he said not guilty yeah somebody believed him yeah uh so yeah shefty by the way thanks to nate wl who found it he did he did put aaron hernandez in the in memoriam shefty tweet which now has become the most important tweet i'm looking forward to this year if if anybody on this show passed away god forbid they got to make shefty sweet right uh i think you and i would i think hank would i'm on the christmas list steven chay would. I don't know if Max and memes, we'd maybe have to put a little we'd have to maybe text

them. I think you and I would.
I think Hank would. I'm on the Christmas list.
Steven Che would. Che would, for sure.
I don't know if Max and Memes would maybe have to put a little... We'd have to maybe text him and let him know.
I think Shefty would do it. Hey, Max died.
Ingrown toenail. It is kind of crazy that every time somebody dies, the first thing Adam Schefter does is he runs to the doc on his phone.
Yeah, he's got a death doc. And then writes their name in.
A death doc. A reverse hit list.
All right, so Stafford staying with the Rams. PFT, you got Debo Samuel.
Got Debo. Big time.
Got Debo. You got a little upset in the group chat this weekend? I did.
A little miscommunication? A little miscue in the group chat and hand up. I think I was like seven beers deep at the bar on Saturday.
I was watching some college basketball, watching some golf, and you had a couple cocktails. And so the Debo news broke.
I was pumped about the Debo news, because I love watching Debo play football. I think he won our first ever award on part of my take for a guy who I like watching play football the most.
Debo is very fun to watch when he's in good shape, and a lot of people were like, oh, you got fat Debo. He's so fat, you're going to hate that fatty.
First of all, number one one let's not fat shame people agree this is not a James Harden situation he looked a little slower last year yes I agree I may have even said at one point he was fat please don't look up the tapes um but if anybody has perfect information on Debo Samuel it's Adam Peters who I believe drafted Debo and worked around Debo for a long time in San Fran he He is now the GM of the Commanders. When I sat with him at the Combine, I told him, number one, if you need me to commit any felonies for the team, I'll do it.
I'll be the fall guy. I'm your guy for that.
Number two, I trust you. If you like Debo, I trust your evaluation of Debo.
So then he was like, I got it. And he was like, okay, I have the support of the fan base.
No, but i think he does know more than anybody what debo is like right now i he's 29 years old it's not like he's super old yeah he he's on he's definitely on the wrong side of his career but it doesn't matter because you're signing him it's not like you're signing him for the next five years right you're signing him for this year you just need him to be debo for a year yeah uh the contract's big but who cares if he's good for a year it doesn't matter yeah it would be one thing if you sign him and you're like new long term contract for Debo yeah he probably has lost a step and he's not the same as he was but it doesn't matter you just need like 85% of Debo for a year yeah I'm pumped to watch Debo so what was the what was the anger about? So the anger, so here, I'll read it to you guys. So memes, so PFT said, fifth round pick fleeced.
Memes said, Cowboys traded fourth round for Mingo. PFT said, okay, question mark.
You traded a third to us for Dotson. Memes said, I'm not Max.
I'm saying that's good. PFT said, I'm sorry..
I saw the M, my bad. So, Meme's Max.
And then Max chimed in and said, we actually won a Super Bowl, though. So, congrats on the offseason win.
We'll take the actual ring. Piazza said, it's a what have you done for me lately league.
Keep living in the past, Max. And Max said, well, lately I won a Super Bowl.
You, on the other hand, lost in the conference championship. BFD said, last month.
Max said, by a lot. Also, you want to take a look at those Miles Garretts next team's odds thing? Things are changing.
And BFD said, keep focusing on that ring. You already won, loser.
So I guess Miles Garrett. I mean, let's be honest.
Max has been milking this fucking Super Bowl for everything it's worth. Yeah, he took a vacation, not on vacation week.
Kind of a loser move to celebrate winning a Super Bowl. On to the next.
We're about to talk to Nick Sirianni. I think my first question was like, hey, dude, isn't it bullshit you have to be at the Combine? He's like, I've been working basically two days or a day after the parade.
He's got a next man up mentality. If I won a Super Bowl, I wouldn't even celebrate it.
My celebration would end the second that the Super Bowl concludes. No, Super Bowl Sunday.
You get your Super Bowl Sunday. Midnight.
Yeah, midnight. Yeah, midnight.
That's it. In whatever time.
No parade. Midnight.
I don't think I'd participate in a parade. I didn't go to a parade.
It's true. You've just been talking about being a winner this whole time, Max.
So, Miles Garrett. A month ago.
Max, are you going to get Miles Garrett? I don't know. Things are changing.
Things are changing. The Commanders were the heavy favorites other than the Browns.
No, the Browns were the heavy favorites. Correct.
But if you were to bet on any team other than Cleveland, it was Washington, and now it's Eagles and Washington have the same odds. Whoa.
Okay. But no one's a heavy favorite? No.
Did Howie do it again, or did Howie do it again? Howie could do it again. He could do it again.
I think what's happening here is the Commanders and the Eagles both want Miles Garrett just as much to have him as much to keep him away from the other team in the division that wants him. Do you think the Eagles are thinking about the Commanders, Max? Sure.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah. That's all I ever wanted.
Yeah. I'll give you that.
Yeah. Have fun with Fat Debo.
Alright. Okay, Max.
Come on. You're the heaviest favorite on this podcast.
I'm not a favorite. I'm just heavy.
Obese. Obese.
You're an obese. That was from the Yak chat.
Yeah, the case race. Obese.
i do love watching debo when he has the ball in his hands he's not i don't know if you can call debo like a number two receiver i feel like he's like he's a swiss army slot he's just maximum violence maximum violence that's what i that's what i want he seeks violence and you know what he's a good blocker too that's very important very important. Bubble screen merchant.
Bubble screen merchant, as some people would say. Maximum violence or bubble screen merchant.
Shane told me he had the least separation in the entire NFL last year. I don't know if that's true, but Shane said it.
He's not a separation guy. He's married to the game.
Yeah, he's a yak guy. Bubble screen.
There also is a theory that he could be unlocked now that he is out of Kyle Shanahan's offense because Kyle Shanahan did try to force the rock to Debo a lot last year there was a lot of times where it's like they're just trying to get Debo going and it doesn't seem like the correct strategy yeah what's the stat with Debo and the win loss uh in terms of like when he plays and when he doesn't play they're 52 and 29 when Debo Samuel does play. I'm trying to figure out what they are without Debo.
8-11 when he doesn't play. How many times was Trent Williams included in that? This is a Debo Samuel stat.
Okay. Because there were a couple times when Trent Williams and Debo were out.
This is a lose. Purely a Debo Samuel stat.
Just a Debo Samuel stat. 52-29 when Debo Samuel.
That's pretty good. By the way, senior, he's had sex.
Okay. Remember that.
52-29 when he plays, and when he does not play, they are 8-11. That's a pretty big difference.
Okay. All right.
So what else? Oh, Trey Smith got tagged, franchise tagged, so the Chiefs are keeping him, and then Kelsey officially, officially is coming back. Yep.
As for the combine, I had some winners and losers, and this is just based off of just tweets of videos I saw. Okay.
Loser Will Howard. Did you see the cut up of him throwing passes? That was tough.
Very mean, whoever did that to him. Will Howard also has nine-inch hands.
That's tough. So does Cam Ward.
Winner, Tyler Show, because he has nine and three-fourths inch hands. Massive.
Massive. Also winner, Jalen Milrow.
Jalen Milrow at the Senior Bowl, he measured his hands, and I think they were eight and three-fourths, and he grew a half an inch on his hands to the combine so now he's one nine and a quarter I love that that's huge uh loser Isaiah Bond uh because he said he was gonna maybe run a 4-1 and then he ran a 4-4 and he wasn't even the fastest Texas receiver Matthew Golden ran a 4-3 I don't know who's who in Isaiah Bond's camp uh is telling him what to do because that's just simple where you're putting the expectations. You got to go in and say, I don't know, I might run a 4-7 and then run a 4-4, but damn, I'm way faster than I thought I was because 4-4 is not slow, but it's not 4-1, and it wasn't even close to the fastest wide receiver.
And he was calling out his – setting his shot, being like, I'm going to be the fastest to ever do it. And his former teammate, Xavier Worthy, is way faster than that.
Way faster. And he posted something like, respect those who came before you, young one.
Yeah. Yeah.
Also loser, Will Campbell. And winner.
I have him as a loser because his arm length is 32 and 5 eighths inches. Yeah, there's a lot of arm length talk.
The general consensus for a tackle is 33 inches. So he's 3 eighths of an inch away from having tackle length arms.
And so some teams are like, well, got to move him to guard. I think the Patriots would be very happy to get him and put him at tackle.
I think he's – I had him as a winner because he hurt himself early on

in one of the drills and then powered through it

and actually had a few of the drills he dominated.

Absolutely dominated.

He's going to be really, really fucking good.

Yeah.

He said – I think there was a quote.

He was like, go look at my tape of the couple of sacks I ever gave up. None of them had anything to do with arm length.
Yeah, we're talking about three-eighths of an inch here. Yeah.
Guys lie about that all the time. And then I also had Tyler Warren has small hands and wing size, which I still would bet on him being a very good player, but loser.
How small? His hands? Mm-hmm. I think it was like eight and three-fourths.
Yeah, it's pretty small. Pretty small.
And his wing size, shockingly small. I have a winner.
Again, I think I would bet on Tyler Warren being a good pro. Yeah.
My winner, Mason Graham. Yeah.
Yeah. Because he said, I'm going to go to the combine, but I'm only going to do bench press.
Yeah. Which rocks.
Yeah. He's like, fuck all this other shit.
Just put me on the weights. Love that.
Watch me move.

Beast.

Loser Shador Sanders, his hat was three quarters of the way backwards when he dressed the media.

Uh-oh.

So Coward's watching that like a hog.

Yeah.

Also winner, Mason Taylor, because he ran the line drill where you catch it, catch it, run

straight across the field.

And it was actually beautiful to watch because his steps never deviated from the line it was a perfect perfect drill so winner that's one of those drills when you see somebody who's smooth and who's an actual athlete run it it looks like the easiest thing ever and then when you watch one of us try to do well i'd fall on my face yeah we already know that okay anything else from the nfl i don't think so think that was pretty much it from the weekend. We have free agency starting soon.
I think the franchise tag deadline is Tuesday. Yeah.
So we're going to find out what the Bengals are going to actually do. And then legal tampering starts.
Then legal tampering starts. All right.
National Sports Podcast. Should we do a little? Let's do it.
This is March. Yeah, this is March.
You made it. Well, my first National Sports Podcast note was Ovi.
Ovi scored another goal. So shout out Ovi.
He did. And yeah, it was a nice goal.
It wasn't your prototypical Ovi setting up in the office. It wasn't an empty netter.
Nice little goal from the middle of the ice. A little wrister.
Top cheddar. 11.
11 away. Is that what it is? I believe so I believe so I think it's 11 it was 11 or 12 um and then yeah it goes over daps up his son I've got a new favorite caps fan though who tuna oh have you seen tuna I have not seen to bring tuna's picture up on here they show this guy in the first period tuna fucking rocks okay he's a kid and he's wearing like pitper shades.
Max is 0 for 1 on searches. And a hat that just says tuna on.
I just got the Ovi gold. Now we're just looking at a huge tuna.
Max, look up hashtag tuna. This will definitely work.
It should. Oh, there it is.
Tuna. Tuna.
Love that. Doesn't tuna rock? Just a kid named Tuna.
Yeah, big tuna. Love that.
That's our new unofficial mascot right now. Tuna.
Okay, yeah, this is March, though. It is March.
Big time. Had a great college basketball weekend.
Hank, at what point, let's just get this out of the way, at what point are you going to start fading? I have not lost in March yet. Just just so everyone knows i'm eight no in bets i i assumed hank faded me when i got to like five or six you know when are you when are you gonna do it is it gonna be monday is it gonna be tonight it might be it's gonna be tonight it might be okay all right i know you're so in my head about it that i know that when you do actually fade me that will be when i lose i feel bad for this one though i i wasn't i i don't i might be too early okay I might just stay away okay I think it knows pretty crazy it knows I haven't lost in March if I know Hank's troll brain he's gonna kick it in right during the conference championship tournaments that's usually yeah yeah usually like I don't want to I don't want to be in this spot for the entire month I did feel uh very stupid explaining my wife that i was like i might not lose a bet in march and she looked at me like that's the dumbest thing you've ever said it's like i've said much dumber but as of right now haven't yeah i have not lost in march so what if i don't lose in march probably another global pandemic yeah probably another global pandemic all right so uh college basketball though basketball Saturday was awesome.
Tennessee. That was such a good game.
Buzzer beater. Nate Oates, all-time choke job.
Just two timeouts, not calling a timeout when your team is getting a five-second call, taking his bigs out of the lineup on the free throw. Just choking it.
Choking it. He lost that game more than Tennessee won it? He said it after.
He's like, I was not good in the last 30 seconds of that game. I have a question for you about Rick Barnes.
Yeah. Is he on Ozempic? I don't know.
He's getting skinnier. I think that's just also what old people do.
He's just wasting away right now. Old people just get skinny and they just waste away.
So that could be bad. We also had – no, he looks like normal Rick Barnes.
He just looks old. There were a couple shots of him on the sideline when he was yelling at the refs, and he looked like a ghost.
He looks old. We also had Rick Pitino, white suit, finally came back.
They actually struggled a little bit, but they have clinched. They won the Big East.
Congrats to Coach Pitino. The white suit looked awesome.
They did a out at the garden uh auburn is just really fucking good that's that was my big they they went into kentucky and they whooped the shit out of kentucky a game that cal would have lost they feel yeah they they feel inevitable yeah well it's auburn and duke i i keep trying to figure out i keep trying to figure out who else could win and it's going to be be Auburn and Duke. I like Auburn, Duke.
I'm going to put some money on St. John's and then Houston.
Houston. Houston and Bama.
Houston and Bama. Oh, you're going to be a Bama guy? You're going to be a Nate Oates guy? I'm in.
Also, Kansas is very sad. Kansas lost to Texas Tech, who is a very good team, but then they had a controversy after a Kansas player posted.
It was some fucked up things the fans were sending him, and then Bill Self had to release a statement basically saying, we're trying our best. It just doesn't feel good for Kansas right now, which also speaks to how good Kansas is historically because they are still a tournament team they're probably a 5 seed, maybe a 6 and they have 11 losses but it's time in Lawrence where they're releasing statements and saying this is really bad so right now they're saying the last 4 in Oklahoma, Indiana,iana ohio state texas i don't if they i'll say this pre-selection sunday um i don't we don't know how the conference tournaments are gonna go texas does not to be deserved to be in they're bad if like drake gets kept out instead of texas if drake doesn't win their conference i'll upset.
The bubble is, like, some of these teams are just bad teams

that because some of the smaller teams haven't had great seasons,

I'll be very upset.

So I'm going to say it right now.

Drake deserves to be in no matter what.

Absolutely deserves to be in no matter what.

Yeah, Texas got smoked by Georgia.

And, like, that was a game they needed.

All right, so, yeah, they have Drake as a 12 seed right now. What do they have Wisconsin at? Two or three? Three.
Yeah, the Michigan State game was tough. Drake, Oregon.
Michigan State's really good. First round.
I also, let's see. Oh, shout out Omaha, the team.
I don't know if you guys have seen, but they've been doing these wrestling themes all throughout the season. And it's very cool, like just small-time basketball, getting some energy.
They did a... What? This hasn't...
Lenardi... Oh.
This was last updated February 28th. That's crazy, Joe.
Come on, Joe. He doesn't like to do his job.
He's probably napping. He doesn't like to do his job.
He only has one job. Can you find the Omaha video, though? They won the conference, and it was very funny because they had the chancellor pop out of a garbage can with the belt.
Yeah. And it was just a very funny visual because it's like a smaller Asian woman is the chancellor, and she just pops out of a garbage can for them.
And they're what I love about college basketball, like these teams in the smaller conferences going on these awesome runs. They still obviously got a win to get in, but it's very fun.
No, that's not it. All right.
So, Lunardi, he did put out... Search Chancellor.
Updated Bracketology for Sunday, March 2nd. Okay.
Pre-game. This is before the games today.
Again, there were some consequential games. Michigan losing to Illinois.
Look at this. Yeah.
I love this. That's awesome.
Omaha Chancellor popping out. So, yeah.
So, he did update it. It didn't get updated on the website, but he posted it on Twitter.
And he says, the last four in Georgia, Arkansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma now. Last four in.
First four out, Boise State, Xavier, UNC, and Texas. Texas is now out per Joe Linardi.
Okay, good. No offense, Texas.
I've watched Texas play. The SEC is so deep that, you know, what does Texas have five conference wins or something so that's the problem is that we're getting to 12 13 14 teams in the SEC it's like all right we got to stop some point Drake deserves and again Drake could just be in because they could win their tournament but that will piss me off if we have some of these teams that were really bad,

but they were in a good conference.

I don't need that.

So people are upset that Oklahoma is one of the last four in.

Why would you put Oklahoma in over Texas?

I wouldn't.

I'd kick them both out.

Xavier should be in.

Okay.

Xavier's been playing hot.

It will all work out.

It will all work out. Yeah, look, they have Xavier in as a first four.

Nova, next four out. I need Max to get all the way back in on Nova.
I really need it. They got the talent.
By the way, congratulations, PFT, on winning the Sun Belt. Well, I mean, yeah, regular season.
Yeah. Pretty good.
The second half of the season was a lot better than the first. Yeah.
Looks like Stradland's got the boys rolling. But now we have the Sunbelt Tournament, which is insane.
The format of the tournament is the better you are in the regular season, that determines how many buys you get. So the one seed and the two seed get an automatic buy all the way to the semifinals.
So if you're the last seeded team, you have to win like seven games in a row against a bunch of teams that are fresh. Yeah.
It's going to be an awesome tournament. Also, congrats to South Alabama, Arkansas State, and Troy for winning the Sun Belt.
It was funny watching all four teams. 30% of the league won.
See, I don't celebrate co-championships for my conference, unlike you. Well, I mean, four is a very funny visual.
It is. It's a very funny visual.
I just didn't take my shirt off and paint my chest. You also took your shirt off.
When? When we went to the Wisconsin game. I got caught up.
Yeah, what are you talking about? I got caught up in bucket fever. You were right next to me doing the same thing.
I know. I just thought it was funny.
30% is very funny. It was watching it, all of them post it.
It's like, that's pretty cool. But yeah, the bracket is awesome.
The bracket for the Sunbelt Tournament, it's going to rock. And then Hank, I guess we said it on the stream, myself and Hank are teamed up again for the Bracket Busters.
Max is also involved. It would be a real shame if we picked against Wisconsin.
Dude, I'm pretty confident in their first round this year. They're not like last year where AJ Stewart decided to.
Or we just take the Dukes.

I was never picking against Wisconsin.

Yeah, right.

Roll with JMU.

That's fine.

I have zero happiness in my life.

There's the bracket right there.

The bracket is just insane.

I love this format.

It is insane.

And it's going to be great because we already started.

I think there was a conference tournament game tonight.

We've already started conference tournament week. But I need Max back in.
We need to get Max back in. Yeah.
All the way back in. The last thing I had for the National Sports Podcast, can anyone make sense of the NBA debate? LeBron faces this league, future faces this league.
Can anyone make sense of what's going on other than i i don't understand here's what i don't understand anthony edwards said he didn't want to be the face of this league anthony edwards doesn't get to decide that no and we get to decide well not only that but when has there ever been a face of a league that didn't win right you have to win matters you have to win a championship to be considered a face of this league agreed it's not and obviously if you win that doesn't automatically mean you're the face of the league like yokich could be the face of the league but he doesn't he doesn't like the media you could make the argument you know tim duncan won a lot he was never the face of the league i don't understand how anthony edwards saying i don't want to be the face of the league like dude no one said you were you haven't won anything yet Yeah, so, I mean, we don't really have a face of the league. I don't understand how Anthony Edwards saying, I don't want to be the face of the league.

Like, dude, no one said you were.

You haven't won anything yet.

Yeah.

So, I mean, we don't really have a face of the league right now.

Well, it's the old guys.

Yeah.

Is LeBron the face of the league?

It's LeBron and his stuff.

And I also.

I think if the Celtics win this year, then Tatum's.

Joe and Brown.

Fuck out of here, man.

Max.

Come on now.

Oh, nice, Max.

I see what you did there.

Hits you with the fuck out of here.

He's playing the video right now.

Do you want to talk about that at all, Hank? Yeah, I don't know. What happened for the listeners that don't know? The Celtics lost on Friday night.
Poor Zingas wasn't playing, so they weren't fully healthy. Wait, it says right here they were up 25-3.
Yeah, I mean, everyone knows the NBA. A lead doesn't matter that much until probably four minutes left in the third quarter.
But Jason Tatum said, fuck out of here, man, after being up 25-2. Yeah, he didn't say, get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, that's what you do. You want your face of the league to be cocky.
You want them to say, get the fuck out of here. But then you lose.
They lost a regular season game. Max, it's a regular season.
Wake me up in the conference championship. A fully healthy Celtics team is not losing to the Cavs.

It was an absolute ref show, but it was, I mean, it's good.

Missoula loves those games.

He loves having things that he can use to motivate the team and losing to a team that's going to have a better record than them

going into the playoffs like that.

That's good.

That was a good statement loss.

Yeah, it's like what Pitino was saying, right?

Like you want to have these things to motivate your guys.

Yes.

And then they came out and beat the Nuggets.

So no issue.

But, Hank, you could also make the argument that the Cavs are the one seed right now, correct?

Correct.

So wouldn't the Celtics already be taking them seriously because they're the one seed in the Celtics?

No, they're taking them seriously, but now they're really going to take them seriously.

Okay, seriously-er.

Yeah.

Got it.

Also, Joe Embiid's out for the year.

Yeah.

He's the knee of the NBA.

I really need the Bulls not to make the play-in game.

It's a race right now.

I was watching the Sixers-Warriors game last night just actively rooting for the Warriors,

and it's a weird place to be in, but you've got to do it.

Have they said if they're going to break his hip or if they're going to do the normal knee surgery? Yeah, how are they going to do this? He may never play again. He might not walk again.
But he did get that MVP. Yeah.
He's done so much for the city. I think Peyton Pritchard might be the face of the NBA.
He might be. Six, about to be six winning the NBA.
But it's become a big story because LeBron, I don't understand. And then LeBron said the media, you wouldn't want to be the face of Lee because the media is so mean.
I don't, I don't think the media is that mean to NBA players. I think Twitter is like, like the faceless Twitter trolls are, but the media, yeah, Shaq and Chuck, they do a show that busts on people but what I actually think that like I think the NFL has way more of a media microscope on their players I would agree it's just that people I think players in the NBA are addicted to reading all the hate online yeah just like you should never log on if you're LeBron James you have nothing to gain gain by logging on it's just it's very weird to me because lebron and and it like talking about respecting the game and stuff and and listen i think jj reddick's doing a great job he's a friend of the program uh jj reddick also did say that the you know in the 50s and 60s they were plumbers so i mean there he he was part of that media uh at one point but he also respects i i know he did a show that he was respecting the game a lot and how skilled these guys are lebron gets endless praise i don't understand why he is pretending like he's getting torn down all the time he does get shit on he gets shit on but it's not like it's again it's by like idiots like like me and like idiots online that we don't mean anything so yeah i think trolls are the face of the nba right now yeah he's basically saying the trolls run the show they run the league yeah it's barstool after dark yeah the chat runs a stream i i feel like nba players more so than any other athlete they're just very very unhappy it's crazy to me i don't get it i i i just the face of this league again you don't get to decide who's the face of this league it's it's going to be whoever is a young dynamic player who wins a title jason tatum is you think he's got the aura yeah if you win back to back gets a final mvp in there it's tough to argue he's 27 It's also just such a funny thing to say, who's the face of this league? He might be the shoulders of this league.
He does have six shoulders. Shouldn't you have to win a finals MVP? Yeah, so like one minute ago, I just said that.
You said if he throws in an NBA finals MVP.? What if Jalen Brown wins? Then is he the face of the league? Yes. Yeah.
He wasn't even on Team USA. Can you play the clip? It just keeps going.
This discussion about face of this league has been happening pretty much nonstop for five days now, and all I can think about is Scotty Barnes, future face of this league.

Giannis had like

a current face of this league.

A 13-month span

when he was the face of this league.

Yeah, he was.

Scotty Barnes,

future face of this league.

People don't talk about this video

as much as we talk about this video.

No one talks about this video.

I know, but the video is so good.

Well, let's find it.

It's the Raptors head coach, Coach Darko,

talking about Scottie Barnes' future face of this league.

But yeah, LeBron, I don't get it.

LeBron's also done active campaigns, like goat campaigns.

He's actively trying to get people to be like,

hey, you're the goat.

Goat status, yeah.

So to then turn it around and say the media is the problem. That's why he's weird to start his own league.
Yeah. He's just listening to the trolls too much.
Scotty Barnes is going to be all star. He's going to be the face of this league.
And what's happening over here? He didn't say future faces. We made that part up.
Oh, no. Oh, Max.
Oh, no. He says face of this league.
We made that part up. Oh, no.

Oh, Max.

Oh, no.

He says face of this league.

Future face of this league.

He's going to be the face of this league?

It's total crap.

Face of this league?

Yeah, I don't.

NBA players are upset.

And then, yeah, LeBron went on with SVP.

Prayers up for SVP. That Maryland loss was tough on him.
Yeah, last week. Like right in his face.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Let's do who's back. Then we have Nick Sirianni.
Is anything happening in the Oscars that we care about at all? No. Okay.
Jerry O'Connell's there. That was our Oscars recap good oscars recap jerry o'connell looks hot yep no one got slapped how many of these movies have you seen like i haven't seen most of them so i don't know you saw dune 2 two summers ago i saw yeah dune 2 came out in march 2024 for those wondering i saw a complete unknown i saw concave and i saw moana 2 i don't think I saw any of them.
And I think there was a new Paw Patrol movie. Yeah.
I liked Conclave. I liked A Complete Unknown.
Brutalist won Best Original Score. Should have been Dune 2.
Wasn't nominated somehow. Best Movie Score of all time.
That makes no sense. Yeah.
Oh'm still here what's that that's an international feature what's that what is that it's a movie about what who's still here um matt stafford okay that's our oscars recap uh all right let's do who's back of the week it's brought brought to you by our friends at Truly Unruly. It's the first high ABV hard seltzer that actually tastes good.
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Hank, who's back of the week? My the week is john cena yeah i had it as well so wwe so he turned heel saturday night he turned heel the golden boy pretty boy of wwe for his whole career pretty fucked up to do the week that gene hackman died why that's a good point like because he was a human being. Yeah, people knew him.
And he just decided that, oh, this is the week I'm going to do it. Gene Hackman just died.
It's true. It was a great...
I mean, I'm not watching WWE every week, but a heel turn like this and just watching the wrestling community freak out about it can't beat it. Because didn't he retire? No, he's doing a retirement tour.
And he turned heel on his retirement tour. Correct.
So he said that he would never, ever turn heel. There was many chances for him to turn heel.
And then in his retirement tour, going up to WrestleMania, he has gone heel pretty crazy. How did he go heel? He beat up Cody Rhodes? He's hugging Cody Rhodes.
And then he not, yeah, Rock said, hey, do it. Rock's also heel right now.
Oh, yeah? It's awesome. I mean, I don't watch wrestling anymore, but I think about moments when I was a kid watching wrestling, like when a good guy does turn heel, it is electric.
So is he going to change out the jorts for like leather pants? I don't know. Go Hollywood hooking on them? Yeah.
So they this is the modern modern birth of the nwo yeah it's pretty cool it was a shocking moment and it makes wrestlemania great and triple h is running basically uh wwe now and he seems like he's doing a good job and didn't travis scott like smoke a blunt put it out on somebody he slapped got like punched the fuck out of cody roads yeah actually punched him yeah it actually i know people were saying like is an all-time moment and travis scott was there which is confusing i think it actually is kind of funny because they were like focused on travis scott being there saying this makes no sense and then you have the heel turn which. So it kind of elevated the shock factor of it.

Yeah, I think the heel turn picture where it's Cena, The Rock, and Travis Scott,

who's like the biggest rapper in the world in the ring, that's legendary.

Awesome.

Awesome.

This is quite a slap that Travis Scott put on him.

Dude, he fucking smoked him.

So is John Cena going to stop doing Make-A-Wish now?

How deeply is he going to be committed to being the heel?

No, he's Team Cancer.

Okay.

Yeah.

It's got to be. I mean, I would like to interview him again and just ask the same questions

and see if he remembers.

But yeah, Gene Hackman, upstaged by John Cena turning heel.

RIP.

RIP Gene Hackman.

Awesome. Awesome actor.
Who's yours Hackman. Awesome, awesome actor.

Who's yours?

Best.

Crimson Tide.

Okay, PFT.

My who's back is Hard Knocks.

Hard Knocks offseason is coming back,

but it's not going to be in the NFL because the Giants screwed that up last year.

I think we predicted that on the show,

which is that no front office is going to want to have every move they make documented so that when it doesn't work out, it gets thrown back in your face. So every team opted out.
They couldn't find a team to do it. So instead, they're going to do it with Bill Belichick at UNC.
Tardnox. With UNC.
I don't know if that's going to. I don't know if that has legs.
You don't think that one? Tardnox?

T-A-R apostrophe D.

Tardnox.

You don't like it?

Nah.

I like Tardnox.

Are you pumped for this, Hank?

Very pumped.

It's hilarious.

The Bill Belichick college story is the gift that keeps on giving.

It's like everything that he didn't want to do and didn't seem like he would ever do in the pros, he's just doing all of it. You know how they always have some behind-the-scenes stuff on the coach, like Matt Uberflute's got a haircut last year? Yeah, that changed everything.
You think we're going to see Bill Belichick hanging out with his girlfriend? Like date night? I would say definitely. Date night with Bill and his lady? Yeah, for sure.
I love that. Oh, yeah.
Jordan is going to be all over that. Mike Tannenbaum, he's in the front office down there, right? Yeah.
I imagine we'll get to see him a lot again. No, Mike Lombardi.
Yeah, Lombardi. Mike Lombardi.
You're still thinking Gene Hackman. Hmm? Royal Tannenbaum.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Royal Tannenbaum. Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I'm actually excited to watch this. I want to see.
It's going to be a giant commercial for UNC. That's the reason why he's doing it, obviously.
It's smart. It's smart.
It's very smart. You get a lot of publicity.
Guys want to see it's going to be a giant commercial for unc that's the reason why he's doing it obviously smart it's smart it's very smart you get a lot of publicity guys want to come play for you it's gonna be good to have bill great so grumpy yeah so grumpy uh okay i had john seen as well i guess i'll pivot to my second one uh daylight savings is back this saturday finally. Getting the later.
Sun. What is it?

Spring back.

Yeah.

So we're finally going to have a little more light out at night.

Golf time.

Ready to go.

Wait, it actually is.

Oh, fuck.

Sunday.

I was going to say this is fucking missed it.

Damn it.

Although I was joking. I thought it was still Another two weeks If you Fuck So you're We're setting the clocks back Correct Shit I swear to god I thought That we had Until like The second or third week Of March And I was doing this That might be it Might be over The joke might be over I fucked up What This actually might be it.
Might be over.

The joke might be over.

I fucked up.

What?

This actually might be the last time.

Yeah.

I feel like every single year they say that they're taking away Daylight City.

Yeah, it's just something that people like to say.

It doesn't make sense.

Because it's easy to complain about.

Be like, this sucks in the wintertime.

Yeah.

I think everybody agrees that it sucks.

But then if you... What was the thing?

I love it now. It would be worse if they got rid of it we'd actually lose summer yeah yeah we'd lose and people i i didn't i always was like let's not do it because i don't want it to go get dark at 4 30 and uh someone said once they're like well what about kids going to school and pitch black and like, good point.
That's a fair point. Yeah.
Because, like, if we didn't do it, it would stay light out till 530 or 6 o'clock. But the sun wouldn't rise till, like, 8 a.m.
Which would kind of be fucked up if you had kids having to go to school in pitch black and, like, walking on the streets, like, getting on buses and stuff. If you're complaining about the clocks and how it works in the winter time what you're doing you're just complaining about winter yeah you're saying like winter sucks i wish this didn't happen wait so this rocks we made it yeah we're back that's you're all the way i actually i got pre-mad at you there yeah i know it's not because i thought i i really did think that it was not even close i thought it was halfway through march uh that's huge that's so huge what are you doing you the weather max i mean i do it all the time but so yeah how are we how are we looking i mean it was not it was like 58 last week and then we had a uh but you know what the sun was nice this weekend what do we got next tuesday this is good weather 62 oh i'm seeing 40s and 50.
We can deal with 40. Anything in the 40s is fine.
40s feel tropical right now. But once you see 60s, that's when it's golf weather.
Oh, then it's on. Then it's fucking on.
Wait, is that? Xiaomi lost best actor. 63 on March 11th.
Put your circle it. That's going to be a day, boys.
Saturday for Patty's Day rainy that's ass oh sat when st patty's day is beautiful there's just really nothing better i it's crazy and i love it that chicago goes hard it seems like chicago is harder for st patty's day than like boston it's like the biggest day and of year. Well, it's also the end of winter.
I know. Yeah.
In Boston, yeah. I know.
It's crazy. It's like people go fucking nuts for St.
Paddy's Day. You know what a sneaky good St.
Paddy's Day city is? Savannah, Georgia. Yeah.
Savannah, Georgia. Fire department comes nuts.
Fire department comes nuts. For St.
Paddy's Day. Yeah.
I miss getting fucked up on St. Patrick's Day.
Should I do it? Yeah, you should. I think I'm going to do it this year.
I don't think so. And by getting fucked up on saint patrick's day should i do it yeah you should i think i'm gonna do it this year i don't think so and by getting fucked up i mean i'll probably start drinking at 8 a.m and then i'll go home at like 2 30 yeah it's gonna be awesome yeah just do it send the kids away i just leave food out for them yeah it's fine put a timer one of those cat food distributors we've got a an issue in my house right now there's an obsession with max's butt the the cat's family loves max's butt it was because of the combine on thursday which i fell and then i came home and little kids just love any type of injury and they just asked me a thousand thousand questions about my knee.
And then to get them distracted, I was like, look, here's my buddy Max. His butt was hanging out.
And now all they... My daughter literally was asking two days later, like, can I see Max's butt? They just love...
They're obsessed with his butt. It'll come out again soon.
Yeah. Always does.
Max is just a hit in my house. There's been a lot.
I've sent him the videos. There's just been a lot of discussion about Max's butt.
I need to see Max's butt. Just keep asking to see Max's butt.
Can I see Max's butt? Can I see Max's butt? I want to see Max's butt. It's something about my genetics.
Just got to see Max's butt. Yeah.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is Super Bowl champion head coach Nick Sirianni from the Philadelphia Eagles.
Does that sound good? Has that gotten that gotten old yet that no never will I my first question actually like and I you can you can be honest with us like I think it's bullshit that you have to go back to work only three weeks after winning the Super Bowl like I was thinking about it you're in Indy right now you're doing work was there part of you like me personally if I won a Super Bowl I'd fuck off forever I would I wouldn't get that hunger back but how is it like it's it's bang bang the NFL schedule doesn't stop you know uh it started right away because we we had some coaching turnover right and so what this is not my first day back we've been we've been interviewing and trying to hire coaches and uh exit interviews with players stuff like that and you know it uh it takes what it takes it takes what it takes so um you know obviously had we enjoyed ourselves you saw the parade yeah we enjoyed ourselves yeah we enjoyed ourselves we had some other nights that we enjoyed ourselves but it's right back to work to try to you know to go through the steps to put you in position to be able to do it again yeah the exit interviews after the Super Bowl have to kick ass. It's just people being like, yeah, that was fucking awesome.
Yeah. That was cool.
One of the questions at the exit interviews is like, what do you think we went well as a team? And so, like, after the first three where they were like, coach, we won the Super Bowl. Yeah.
I got it. So I rephrased the question.
Besides winning the Super Bowl, what do you think went well as a team? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, those are good exit interviews. But, you know, just love spending time with the guys and continuing the relationships and everything like that.
Okay, so be honest with this one, too. At what point during the Super Bowl were you like, we got this? It's over.
Because I know the coach speak. You can be like, you know, you got to play 60 minutes.
You never know. It's Patrick Mahomes.
But, I mean, come on. Halfway through the third quarter, you're like, this is – it's over.
We got this. Well, you know, in 2022, we were up 24-14 at halftime, and they were getting the ball to come out of half, and they went down and scored.
You know, and we were up 24-0 at halftime there, and they were getting the ball to come out of half. And so we knew how important that drive was going to be um you know I think at 40 when we were up 40 to 6 I remember saying to our staff I'm like I think uh I think let's let's let's take the starters out yeah and one of the coaches like coach you sure there was like six minutes left and I go yes I'm sure we can take starters out right now let's get everybody in the game and let's let's them play.
So I think it took a long time. That's a phenomenal team.
We played with phenomenal coaches, phenomenal players, maybe one of the best players of all time on the other sideline. And so it wasn't, hey, until the Fat Lady Sings.
We knew at some point it was 40 to 6 with five minutes left to go. We could be there.
That was very nice of you, but you beat their you beat their fucking ass you did it was an ass kicking it was an ass kicking you stopped them yeah it was great and now that you're a couple years removed from the first super bowl i think you can say without it seeming like sour grapes or like you're complaining about it but the the grass the sod father from the chiefs he fucked you out of that super bowl You know the whole time during the parade and really a couple of the celebrate you know celebration it really was the parade i was like it just i don't know it's just the way we're the way it is sometimes you're like man i wish i'd have been able to do this in 2022 that you know and so that and it was like you're enjoying it and the parade was awesome and the people of Philadelphia are unbelievable and the and the celebration was great players everything uh but there are moments that you're having when you have the beer in your hand you got to point it over to the the crowd like man I wish I would have been able to go through this two years ago yeah we weren't you know they they beat us and uh they had to play on that field too so I'll never I'll never give an excuse uh on that so can i tell you when i think you won the super bowl when i was like i think this is over when you didn't cry during the national anthem was there any part of you that was like this time don't cry because that was also when you lost the super bowl in 2022 is like dude you can't cry during the national anthem like you got to save the tears for winning the super bowl was there a part of you in game prep where you're like okay i know they're gonna sing this song like don't cry like practice in front of the mirror like have the last chris stapleton last time singing it and i just sit in front of the mirror like don't cry don't cry you're stronger than that nick don't do it uh football's an emotional game uh you know i i would i would say it's just an emotional game and emotions. Yeah, maybe it was.
Maybe, you know what? I'll tribute it to that. Yeah.
Good. I love it.
I love it. Because they had a crier too, Chris Jones.
He cries during the national anthem as well. I thought it would be just like an arms race.
You guys would even cry harder this year. Should they have to stand like right next to each other face to face and just look and see who cried first? Yeah.
Yeah it was a it was a great season for you guys how much credit do you give to big dom versus how much credit do you give to shaving your head oh good question how do you balance that so nobody nobody nobody in the nfl does their job as good as dom does his uh let me brag on him for a second Nobody is, nobody wants people more. In a world that we live in where there's so many people about themselves and this and that, that's what I loved about our team too.
We're a completely selfless team. No one cared how we won.
They just wanted to win, which is really special. I wish people were talking about that more, especially in the world we live in today.
Our, our, our guys wanted to sacrifice for each other and win for each other and be selfless with it. Well, that's how, that's how Dom lives every single day.
Like he, he, he lives to help other, Dom in here. He lives to help other people do their job and it, and it's special.
Like it takes special qualities and yeah, so that, that has way more effect on when I didn't have time to get a haircut on Friday when we normally get haircuts. And I'm like, you know what? My hair's a little long.
I'm going to, I'm just going to do it myself. Uh, it didn't look great when I did it myself.
So when my assistant had to kind of trim me up there, my daughter, I got, my wife hates when I do that. I do it.
I do it in the summer every once in a while like you know i don't my daughter so my wife i know my wife hates it and then my daughter said to my wife like are you gonna divorce daddy now that i'm like whoa she's seven she didn't know what that means so obviously she heard that from somebody else i don't know what's going on here yeah um is that is you? Three, yeah. Which one is your favorite human shield? Well, if you look at when Howie got hit by the beer can during the parade, it whizzes by my wife.
There's a couple angles because it's like they have a very different angle. You can imagine.
I actually think I could make a montage of all the angles of the beer can hitting Howie in the head. And there's one angle where it whizzes by my daughter and and my and my wife and it hits Howie.
And I'm like, you know what? Better. Yeah.
Howie than my beautiful girls. And it would have been bad because, you know, obviously after it was at the Cleveland game where you brought your kids to the podium.
That's where you're going with the move, by the way that I tip my hat to you. I have three kids.
Like I know that, listen, I love my kids, but really their purpose is if I ever get into trouble, I'm just going to bring them around and be like, look at my three kids. You know, it's so hard to win a game in the NFL that my moment was never to be like, I'm going to shield them from a tough question.
We just won the game. Yeah.
Miles Garrett jumped We were up, what, 10-0? And it was about to be 13-0-1. He jumped over someone, blocked a kick, and they returned it for a time.
It's hard to win. And so my whole thing there was like, let's go celebrate to win.
Some people in the media didn't take it that way. So I got it.
I got it. So my wife said, no more, no more kids up at the podium anyway.
Yeah yeah uh this this year was kind of crazy for you because it started out things seemed to be like it was they were a little bit rocky at the beginning and then they kind of turned around a little bit after that Saints game do you remember the ending of that Saints game I think it was uh Dallas caught that long pass right really broke the game open yeah did you feel like the season switched at that point no no I mean because the next week I think it was the next week we got our butts kicked by Tampa okay but that was a huge play and it was an awesome play you know as I remember it we're like third and 16 Jalen puts a perfect we had perfect protection up front we hadn't been doing much on offense defense was playing their butts off and we hadn't been doing much on offense all day uh we get great protection protection up front jalen delivers the ball perfectly jahan dotson you know kind of gets dallas goddard open i think like three of their guys ran into each other and then and dallas went and ripped it but it is plays like that that you're like yeah i think there's so many moments in the season you're like man that that play that play that play that play and that's what's cool about it right? And there's teams that lost or didn't accomplish the goals they wanted to accomplish,

and they look, that play, that play, that play.

It just makes you know how important the day-in, day-out work is

so the breaks go your way.

Yeah.

So we've defended the tush-push on this show.

Thank you.

I do have something, and I say that as a Commanders fan.

I am not going to complain my way out of getting my ass kicked.

That's not how football should work, right?

It's a football play.

Other teams are free to use it if they want to.

They're just not as good at it I saw that you were insulted by the fact that the Packers are trying to get rid of the rule that you should feel complimented by that you know what the the compliment that I do feel from it is that it's stretched to every portion of football right it's showed in college football pro football, high school football, peewee football. My son scored on it this year.
Oh, hell yeah. That would piss me off.
Hell yeah. If I had a son that was playing against your son and fucking Sirianni's son is pushing on me, I'd be like, yeah, get that play out of football.
It's bad for the game. Insulted because we work hard at that thing.
It's automatic. Well, it's automatic because of the work that's put in and because of the players that we have that are performing it.
It's not automatic throughout the entire league, right? Right. It's not, okay, well, Steph Curry shouldn't be allowed to shoot threes.
Only in the fourth quarter can Steph Curry shoot threes. What are we talking about? You can't just make a roll-up because it's benefiting one team and everywhere else it's not quite as good.
I mean, we saw it in one of the championship games. One of the teams got stuffed on it and turned over on downs.
Yeah, and the game over. Yeah, and it's also very funny because it's like, how do you stop the tush push? Like, don't let the Eagles get to fourth and two.
There's three other downs and you can stop no doubt um we've we've been putting a lot of respect on your name even before the Super Bowl because it is like when you take a step back I know Philly's a tough place to coach sometimes but you guys you know you've I think you have the highest winning percentage of any active head coach right now four years in the playoffs two NFC championship games Super Bowl and you've done it all coaching Italian you Italian. Is that hard where sometimes your anger, like you want to bang on a pot and pan or just scream? That's got to be difficult.
You're doing it all under the influence of Italian. I think that's emotion, right? Yeah.
That's emotion, right? And that's what makes me unique. It's my emotion, and it's all Italian right there, no doubt.
Yeah. You just try to be who you are uh players see through that if they're not so the emotion of the game the the anger at times yeah right the celebrations at times of talking with our hands at times that you know whether i'm talking to a referee whether i'm talking to a player or whatever it is yeah i embrace that do you guys do you think you have too many italians you have a lot of italians got a lot of italians yeah can you ever have you ever have too many Italians? I don't know.
It just gets combustible. There's so many Italians.
No, no. You've got Fangio.
Now our coordinators. You've got Fangio.
You've got Petullo. You've got Sirianni.
You've got Dom. You've got Dom.
And you've got Michael Clay. Yeah.
Michael Clay is our special teams coordinator. So many Italians.
There is one thing that pisses me off that you do, and I want to confront you face-to-face. As a football viewer, when you line up to go for two in the first half, try to get them to jump off sides.
They don't jump off sides. Then you call a timeout.
Then you kick the extra point anyways. As a fan of watching football on TV, that's a tough minute for me.
You don't like it. I get Matt Wolfe because I think that there's about to be a play.
There's no play. You're excited for the play.
He's just going to kick it. Yeah.
He used the timeout. That's a very smart football move.
For you to notice it, I love that. I love that you noticed that that's what we were doing.
Because it could be like, oh, they just messed up. I don't think your average fan notices that that's going on.
They're like, oh, they didn't have the right formation. They just banged the timeout.
It's very impressive. Did I change your opinion on that? No, no.
I complimented you right there. I appreciate the compliment.
I think you're right that I'm a very insightful football fan. But it just delays.
We get enough commercials already watching football. I hear you.
Point taken. Yeah, so just think of the fans when you do that next time.
It's mildly annoying to a casual football viewer. This year, did you ever go to Saquon and be like, hey, dude, can you just do that 60-yard run thing where you do? Yeah, I think that's the game plan every week.
Remember when you jumped over the guy backwards? Can you do that again? Do the touchdown play real quick. Do that again.
I mean, it was insane. Was there a moment where you're like, this is just not normal, that it felt like every week he'd just rip a long one? Yeah.
No, that's how it feels right there. I think that the moment that – I love the reaction of our sideline when he jumped over that guy.
And that's what we – you know, I think we saw that every day at practice. I mean, not that he was – like we're not tackling full speed and he can get jumping over guys but like you just see the athletic the freaky athletic ability that he has

man and and i'll say this like what an unbelievable person like if you if we just if you said saquon

barkley go the first thing that would come out of my mouth is this guy's an unbelievable person

this guy's an unbelievable teammate this guy's an unbelievable leader he's an unbelievable worker

and then we could start talking about the plays that he makes yeah it's all those things that

make him who he is you think he's a better human being than football player

Thank you. teammate this guy's an unbelievable leader he's an unbelievable worker and then we can start talking about the plays that he makes yeah it's all those things that make him who he is you think he's a better human being than football player yeah no there's no chance he's the best running back in the league you think he's one of the best you think he's a top 000 one percent human yes worldwide no chance yes no chance he's he's better at football look at sunglasses down.
Yes. If I had sunglasses, I'd put them down on my head.

It's no offense to him, but he's one of the best football players in the world.

And that's what I'm saying.

He's one of the best humans in the world.

Probably we're talking top 10 human being in the entire world.

You're going to say he's a top 10 human being.

Well, I don't.

Is that if he's the top 10 football player in the world?

Top 10.

There's a lot more people in the world than there is human beings. Right.
I'd say the top 1,000 human beings. So he's a better football player than human being.
You just admitted it. Thank you.
Point us. He's awesome.
Analytics. He's awesome.
What's it like knowing that at any given time, Howie could be working on something just insane that will make your life very complicated the next 24 hours. Insane? No matter who is available, who's not even available, I feel like Howie is always cooking something up.
Yeah, it's going to make my life. The secret to good coaching is get good players.
Howie does a great job of that. He's making my life easier and easier every move that he makes.
It's awesome. I guess just more like more exciting.
Maybe complicated is the right word, but at any given time, he could surprise you. I love it.
Yeah, I love it. I love it.
It's the best. It's the best.
It's the absolute best. He's the he's the best.
He is the best GM in the world. I have no doubt in my mind.
He is pretty damn good. The proof is in the pudding.
Do you want to get Max involved? Well, let me ask you this. Coaching in Philadelphia is tough.
I think it's pretty crazy the swings you've had where, like I said, you've been to the playoffs four years in a row. You've gone to two Super Bowls, won one.
But you were also – some of the fan base had you on the hot seat. Sure.
At the beginning of the year. Some people in this room had you on the hot seat.
Who was it? That would be Max. This is fake.
This is fake. You 100% had him on the hot seat.
Come on. That's not true.
Okay. There's no proof of that.
So Max, come in here and ask some questions. Also, let me ask you this.
So yeah, Max, come on in here. Super Bowl, after the Super Bowl, you guys go to the party.
You're at the hotel. I would assume this is the pinnacle of your career.
People are asking for pictures. You love taking pictures with people.
That's a moment that like, hey like hey this is what i want to do share it with the fans sure is that fair to say that you love taking pictures with people in that moment i love taking pictures in that moment perfect answer perfect answer i think it's the right thing to do okay it's easy way to here's my opinion on it do i love like when i got my son my, do I love taking pictures? I wouldn't say I love taking pictures, but it's such an easy thing. Like, it's such an easy thing to do to show, to help somebody make their day or show gratitude to that person.
But like, was it, let me phrase it a different way. Would it, it was an appropriate time for people to ask you for pictures.
Yeah. Yeah.
Now I had to, like, I normally stop and take a picture with everybody. Right with that mass of like i had to i had to keep going so yeah sorry to anybody i didn't take a picture no you did so so you took a picture with pug okay did i love somebody in the no max thought he was like he was like i'm i'm so much better than everyone i'm not gonna ruin this moment and ask for a picture do you want to do a picture now you do it after yeah i didn't ask for a picture because i was like you know this is the best night of his life i wanted you to you know enjoy the night and not get hounded by by a bunch of pictures so i felt out of respect he wants credit for that i i'm i don't want credit for that max i just got ridiculed by everyone by not wait a second max you wanted me fired so don't know that's not true that's Yeah, you did.
You had him on the hot seat. I didn't have him.
I'm not fired. You had hot seat.
You had your eye on Sirianni. People in Philly, you know, sometimes we get over emotional and we say things that we don't mean.
Max is also very Italian. We actually are like the Eagles.
We have our entire behind the scenes. You know who he looked like? Has he ever gotten Matt Patricia? Oh, yeah.
He cosplays his Kelsey. Yeah, he cosplays his Kelsey.
Little Patricia. You guys see it? Yeah.
But we have all of our support staff is all Italian, so we're kind of modeling after the Eagles. Do you have too many Italians? We do have too many Italians.
No, we don't. I think we do.
Not enough. But, yeah, so Max is very Italian.
He gets very emotional. He might have had you on the hot seat to start the season.
Sometimes you say things you don't mean. That's all.
That's all. Okay, so go ahead.
First question going off of that, how does it feel now to be in this class of immortality in Philadelphia? Like going into the year was obviously a little feisty with you and the Philly fans. And now no matter what you do, you're automatically on the pantheon of all-time greats.
You know what I'd say about that? A couple people have asked me, why don't you get up and be like, do something like that, right? I'm like, you know, I'm actually grateful for – I know this isn't the mood we're in right now because we're having fun, but I'm grateful for the criticism. I'm grateful for the adversity because it truly makes you – and I look back at my entire life, the adversity has made me who I am.
I have no doubt in my mind that it would have been hard to win the Super Bowl this year if we didn't finish the season the way we did last year. And I'm grateful for the adversity.
I'm grateful for the criticism. And the reason I'm grateful for the for the criticism is because you know I got three kids that I'm going to raise in this social media uh world um that they're going to get criticized right and they're and I'm going to have to be able to parent them in those scenarios and what a great opportunity I have and a great experience I have of what we went through right with the light on the other side of And then also, you know, we have a ton of players that get criticized.
I love Brandon Graham when he talks about how he was criticized so early in his career. He put his head down.
He worked his butt off. He learned from the adversity.
He got better. And he has the 15 year, you know, 15 plus year career that he's had, that he's had.
And I love that. I love that.
Now I'm able to share that too with guys. And so I'm grateful for it.
And it sucks when you're going through it, but I'm grateful for it now. Let's get back to some fun.
Well, I would imagine it makes it sweeter. Like if everything's easy, then the great moments don't feel the same.
No doubt. Right.
What 50 cents say in that one song, pain wouldn't feel so good. I'll take you to the candy shop.
It's your birthday. No, I think it was, I'll take you to the candy shop.
Yeah, you're right. You're right.
And then they did that movie with old school where they remade it. That's one of my favorite lines.
By the way, another Italian has walked in. Diana Rossini is here.
So we just, we're full of Italians. Yeah, this is a is a great room this is we're close to having a

rico act on this on this whole room uh all right max go um number one that was great uh i'm happy that you're in this moment now because like howie roseman is another one that like people really criticized him after like the jalen rager justin jefferson thing you just say you you criticized You see this pattern here?

What?

PG, myself, Hollywood.

I know.

It's good.

It's good.

And I'm happy.

I'm happy Philadelphia has turned on people who deserve to be turned on for the better. You're turned on.
See, this guy just loves to twist my words. I try and say something right.
Never works. All right.
Next question. Back to Italians.
Is Kevin Petulo Italian? Because I'm seeing different reports. What are you seeing? A lot of people are saying that it's actually a Scottish name.
No, no, no. I just want to dismiss those rumors.
If he's been lying to me, I've been working with him for eight years. All right, all the way back to Indy and then here.
If he's been lying to me about being Italian for this long, he can't be. Who can hold a lie for that long if it's not? Because he's been lying to me for eight years if he has.
No, I love it. He'd be like George Costanza if he can hold a lie for that long.
I believe it. I just wanted the people of Philadelphia to know coming from you that he is Italian.
Dom Italian? Dom Italian certified stamped. Follow-up question to that.
Let's get the boys fired up about Kevin Pitbull. No questions on Fangio, though.
Well, obviously. His name's Vic Fangio.
Vic Fangio. Vic Fangio.
We got another guy. There's a nice Paizan.
If you have a question about this guy or one of our senior special teams assistant, Joe Penunzio. Any questions? Sounds like a great Paizan.
No questions, right? An excellent paizan. I know.
I believed it. I just wanted the people to stop putting out these fake rumors.
Yeah, good. I'm glad I was able to clear that up.
But following up on Kevin Petulo, can we get the Eagles fans fired up? Like, what's he going to bring to this offense? Tell me about Kevin Petulo. Kevin, I haven't made a decision over the last five years, or really even going back to Indy, without the assistance of Kevin Petullo.
And that's just in whether it's offense, whether it's head coaching, whether it's something to do with anything, he's the guy I lean into the most. And that's really, you talk to Shane Steichen, you talk to Brian Johnson, you talk to Kellen Moore, they all say the same thing.
This guy is a star, you know, loves football, bleeds football, wants to do everything, like has a great – look at all the – what the player – all the players said about him after he got – after he got hired in the endorsement that he gave – that every one of them gave him. He's a special coach.
And when you're able to – when you have a coach that you can keep consistency and continuity in the building for your offense that they can be promoted you do that uh and we had a guy that was there ready to do it and i'm excited about his opportunity and i want him to do so well that he gets job interviews uh next year but doesn't get him but doesn't get but doesn't get the the you know because i don't want to move on and then i hope he does so well that he gets job interviews next year but doesn't get them. But doesn't get the, you know, because I don't want to move on.
And then I hope he does so well again that he gets those job interviews again and he strikes out on being a head coach again. And then maybe – then the third year does so well again, misses out on it one more time.
And then the fourth year of him being the coordinator, then he goes. That seems fair to me.
Let's get Jay that's a good plan all right that's it that's good question that's it for me did you want to apologize for putting him on the hot seat i he he he didn't actually apologize yeah he said that's just the way we are you know it's like i yell at the refs it's just the way yeah no i'm italian i'm sorry i'm an emotional guy. He said you're welcome.
Because you thanked him for it.

I'm from that's an apology.

Yeah.

All right, thanks, Coach.

I have a question from Max 12 months ago.

Oh.

Max 12 months ago would ask you.

No, no, no, no.

Come on.

This was a question that you had a year ago.

That's a different guy.

Yeah, but let's just ask him.

What do you do during games?

No, no.

I just kind of hang out. I just kind of hang out.
He didn't ask that. He's making this up.
Yeah, but let's just ask him. What do you do during games? No, no.
I just kind of hang out.

I just kind of hang out.

I'm making this up.

You asked it.

I just kind of hang out during games.

High five people.

That's what Max said.

Yell at people.

Yell people.

High five people.

That's about it.

Yeah, flip off a guy in the stands.

I didn't do that.

He encouraged you, right?

He was like, we got to run Saquon more.

And you're like, I will. And then you did it.
And we did it. I'm like, did you like that? He said, yes.
And I said, okay. And then it kind of became a little bit more of a topic than it was.
Yeah. Do you know that guy actually called in and said he wasn't talking to the whole family.
He was talking to me and he was having fun with me. And nobody went with that story.
I know. The evils of, I'm sorry, the evils of the media media we'll listen to what we want to listen to and not put out the other oh yeah we definitely spread that you were yelling at a fan yeah not me absolutely no i think we did read it because i think he wrote online he was like hey this is me yeah the fan that he was talking directly to me that's what the guy said i was talking directly to him and nope and i'm like nobody even went with it then story was written the way it be written, and that's where it went from there.
By the way, I think you misquoted Max. I think his quote was, what does he even do during games? I don't think that that's how it went at all.
Well, it's good. I think that they're making this up.
You got a super bowl out of it. Yeah, no.
These are the burdens of leadership, right? Leadership's not always seen, right? It's not always seen. And you know what we I know what I signed up for yeah I know that I know that there's criticism that that comes when when you don't perform the way that you need to perform and that's what we signed up for I also think when Max said that you're like you know immortality I would say until we go three and out yeah one in four you're gonna be back on Max's hot that incorrect.
That's incorrect. Well, you know, the last time they told me about this when I first got here, they said, you know, we won the Super Bowl in 2017.
I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember that. And then they were like, well, the next year in 2018, we went three and out our first drive and they were booing.
It may have been, and I may be exaggerating it, and it also may have been we didn't score any points at halftime and they were booing. I'm like, shoot.
That's Philly. You got to love it.
You better score some points. You're passionate.
You got to score some points. Don't go three and out.
Yeah. All right.
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Our mutual friend, Jason Candle, you've got to hire him. I know he's killing it at Toledo, but he's a hell of an offensive coach.
He's a stud. Yeah.
Yeah, he's a stud. And he's done an awesome job at Toledo.
Jason and I were teammates, right? Jason and I were teammates. His senior year in 2001, all right, and my sophomore year, it took me a little, it really was like my second, I had three more years after that, cause it took me some more time to graduate.
Italian. Yeah.
Him and I were the starting receivers for the first two games I got hurt and I was out the rest of the year. But then Jason was my coach, you know, In 2002 and 2003,

he was my receiver coach.

Imagine the guy you drink a lot of beers with

and hang out with a lot. Now he's yelling at you

and telling you what to do and everything like that.

He's a great coach.

Then fast forward to when I

now I'm going into coaching

and I take a job at

Mount Union. Now, not only is

he my roommate,

because I'm going to live in his house. He's my roommate.
He's my colleague, and he's my landlord because he's charging me money to live in a home. Listen to this.
A lot of coaches lived in that. There was about five coaches that Jason was making money off of all of us, charging us rent.
I, you know, they were all a year or two older than me. And I got the room that was in the living room.
It was connected to the dining room. I had a sheet for a little bit of privacy.
No heat in that room. So I had a space heater, right? And I was still getting charged the same amount of rent as everybody else.
So, yeah. And so, no, Jason's the you have it you said it yeah did he tell it did he tip you off last year being like quinnion mitchell like oh yeah he gave us great great insight yeah yeah yeah i just wanted to pump jason candles tires because he's awesome he's awesome yeah he's he's done he's done a great job and um really value his his opinion on things and find myself uh checking in with him on what he would do in certain situations.
And, you know, I know he's come and watched us practice and we share information and great relationship there and always proud to check his scores or watch his games. And, you know, I don't shy away from telling people in the building, like, they don't see Mount Union scores.
Yeah. So I'm like, hey, do you see Toledo? Yeah, that's my guy who won that game.
What is it about Mount Union that real football guys know? Like, there's something special about that college when it comes to coaching. We learned how to win there.
And the coach that we all played for, Larry Karras, taught us how to win, taught us. And then the guys that came back and coached for him taught us how to coach.
In Jason's case, taught him how to take advantage of his tenants in his house with the heat, no heat and everything like that. But, no, he just taught us how to win and taught us how to coach and taught us, you know, everything that he had to offer us to get better as football coaches.
And, you know, how awesome is it for Coach Karras now to see, you know, Matt Campbell doing the things that he's doing at Iowa State and Jason doing the things that he's doing at Toledo and then, you know, obviously us winning. You know, he's got another guy here on the Colts that's the tight end coach.
He's got coaches everywhere that have either played for him and coached for him, both my brothers included, that he's touched our lives and helped us reach our goals. Well, Coach, thank you so much.
Also, congrats on the new contract. I don't think it's happened yet, but winning a Super Bowl right before a contract year, good shit.
That was a good move. That's some good shit.
That was a good move. Yeah.
Yeah.

That's some good shit.

I know that you've probably been like,

ah,

that's pretty good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But yeah,

congrats on that.

Congrats on all the success and appreciate you stopping by.

Yeah.

Thanks for having me.

It was fun.

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Uh, great podcast, by the way, Diana Rossini podcast. Where's the invite? I've invited PFTs.
Come on. I've sent you numerous.
Well times you did not send me an invite i never have he wasn't very good so my thought was all right i'm going to avoid these guys for a bit let them find their rhythm again and then i'll invite big cat so wait i wasn't very good on your podcast your little pod our downloads weren't very good oh that's not that's that's fake you're you are solidarity. Yeah, no, you were, what she did was, well, I know you guys were so nervous about us, you know, jumping you guys as the number one sports podcast on the planet, so.
Scoop City. Yeah, yeah, Scoop City.
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Yeah. All right, so Diana, we're here at the combine.
What's the buzz? What's the biggest story right now at the combine? The fact that you guys did not go out at all last night that that is the buzz babies you turned 40 and you lost all your stamina that's fast uh texting with you guys like nope go to bed it's 8 45 no i stayed out till 10 also i wanted on the record that i went home at 11 o'clock but i didn't go to sleep till one because i watched new mexico lose and not cover till one o'clock. Fair.
So I'm not 40 yet. So I don't know what that's going to feel like.
Sick flex. So, but I'm learning that it hits you hard, huh? Yeah.
It comes at you quick. Yeah.
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So, but what's... Do I need to fact check? This is going to get community noted.
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So wherever Aaron Rodgers lands, will the team let him do the Pat McAfee show per your reporting? I said that the Jets discussed with Aaron Rodgers what this year would look like if he stayed a Jet, right? How are we going to do this Pat McAfee thing? We would really like you to cut back on a lot of this stuff, the distractions, so we could all be one, keep it all out, new chapter, new New York Jets. There was no ultimatum ever made.
Aaron Rodgers is not in New York anymore because he can't do Pat McAfee. It was never that hard of a conversation.
It was just, look, I was giving the Jets credit through the whole thing of, how about them taking their team back? Hey, Aaron Rodgers, you haven't performed up to the level that we've wanted you to. You're mad in rating tips.
We've given you. Rick is very upset.
We've given you every player, everyone that you want, and it's still not good. So we're going to start treating you the way everyone else should be treated.
And I think Rodgers appreciates that. I think he's the type of player where maybe it appears that he wants that special treatment.
But he lives in a space of the best coaches lead by holding the best players accountable. And everyone gets that same kind of treatment.
And I think that's what the Jets were trying to do. And in the end, I think both sides were like, yeah, no, this isn't going to work.
Not just because of that. I think there's a series of reasons.
Yeah. What about Myles Garrett? What are you hearing with him? Yeah.
So look, Cleveland is yelling from the rooftop. We are not moving him, but just we've seen this a million times.
They say that now, but I think when we get closer to the draft, we'll see some movement. I think Philly's going to try to go hard here.
I think Howie is going to make some decisions here in free agency and determine who he can live without. And I think some of these guys that are up, he's going to be comfortable walking away from, despite the fact they obviously just had so much success with this roster.
But I think you make those kinds of moves and you take a big swing for someone like like miles garrett and how he will tell you and i'm sure nick said it too when he spoke to you guys like they build their team you know through their lines so what i mean what better ends than bringing in miles garrett yeah yeah uh was this the first year that you had an mvp vote uh it was my second year the second year it was the first year it was revealed yeah and i did not know that um and i was out to dinner and my phone was blowing up with people um in football very angry that i voted for uh people that i voted for um so that stunk i wish i knew that because i think it would have changed your vote it would not have changed my vote but i love josh allen and i am avoiding him for a really long time i'm a well i'm well aware i was really thinking about him winning the mvp um i i feel like i have to apologize um i still believe my vote was right like i think i was i was looking at it differently than than i think the other voters were i felt like there were games in which the the defense in Buffalo helped Josh Moore in winning those games where I felt like Lamar had to do it more on his own because he didn't have that type of defense this year. That was kind of how I viewed it.
Look, there were days I woke up and I thought it was Josh. There were days I woke up and I thought it was Lamar.
I stressed about it. But in the end, I did vote for Lamar.
you told me, I believe it was the Tuesday of Super Bowl week, Lamar Jackson 100% winning MVP. And you knew that I had a future on Lamar to win that MVP.
Correct. You said 100% don't worry about it.
It's already done. That was very mean.
Yeah. I purposely lied to you because I knew how much you had on that.
And I thought it would be fun to play games with you there. That's very funny.
How did that turn out? It was not ideal. All I have to say, the excitement in your face when I told you that Lamar was winning that whole thing, you're like, oh my God, oh my God.
You were shaking. You're like freaking out about it.
I mean, winning a big bet in New Orleans, it's going to be fun. Yeah.
I was just excited to have fun that week. How did you guys do in new orleans like just on all your bets uh eagles won the super bowl it's pretty good i made money this super bowl which is it's rare did you go to the casino no did not go to the casino you guys killed at the casino in vegas yeah yeah remember you guys were posting photos of like all these that was a little gross actually showing off do you like like New Orleans as a Super Bowl city? It was unbelievable.

It was very fun.

That was the, I've done 12 Super Bowls.

That was the best Super Bowl I've ever been to.

Yeah.

Everything from just the logistics, the excitement.

There was something to do everywhere.

It didn't, you didn't need a plan.

You could just like go anywhere.

And it was fun.

And I just thought this, the fact that the Eagles just absolutely destroy the Chiefs,

the celebration afterwards was one of the best post games I've ever covered too in any sport.

Yeah.

Obviously, you don't have to do that. I just thought the fact that the Eagles just absolutely destroy the Chiefs, the celebration afterwards was one of the best postgames I've ever covered too in any sport.

Yeah.

Obviously, you saw Saquon going berserk.

I've never seen him like that, ever.

Yeah.

Like even in some – he's had success obviously in his career.

And it meant so much to him.

Yeah.

I think it was such a, yes, I knew I was this guy despite the fact that New York didn't think I was yeah yeah you felt it vindication yeah um question for you personally uh you left ESPN I feel like the bet has paid off how how is it going like that's a scary thing for a lot of people to leave ESPN because it is kind of you know the mothership and all that stuff and you've And you've been crushing it in your new role at The Athletic and your podcast. Do you look back and you're like, that was an awesome decision by me? Because it takes balls.
Like it was, you know, that's to make that jump. It does.
Thank you. Yeah, it was hard.
And you guys are, you know, you knew what was going on with me on the mental side of it. It was hard to say, I love my job.
I love ESPN. I was having success there,

but I felt like I needed to go somewhere to challenge myself. And this job is so much

harder than what I was doing on TV. It's not even close.
To have to write what you know,

and the written word compared to what you can say on TV, I just feel like it lasts forever.

And once you collect that information and you put your name on it, and it never goes away, one, I'm proud of it, but it's definitely challenging. I'm getting exactly what I wanted.
I can tell you that. Yeah, you're a columnist.
I am. It's big, and your column comes out Saturday, which great job figuring that out.
Like good job putting out your column one day before everybody else. That is so funny that you say that way.
Very smart. You think I planned it that way.
I did not. Okay.
So I was doing it on Sunday and, you know, it wasn't really getting much traction because Adam and Ian, you know, they're so great at what they do and they were putting out news and I was putting out the same stuff. So it was like, why are people going to read my column if they've already seen it on TV? So I was trying to, one weekend, just get ahead of stuff because I wanted to go to an actual game on Sunday.
So I was like, you know what, why don't I just publish this on Saturday? I just threw it out there thinking it wouldn't really result in anything. And it was the best decision I made because I got ahead of the news cycle.
Whereas like Saturday, I can put out all the stuff about the games and obviously people want to hear it and read it. Yeah.
So it comes out Saturday. When you write it, do you write it like Friday night? Yeah.
I write it like midnight sometimes. That sucks.
No, so no, my Friday nights are horrendous. I remember you used to write a column? On Monday, yeah.
Monday morning. Remember that stress you used to have writing that? I mean.
It takes a long time to write, to write yeah okay i think there's a little difference in what you're writing about no yeah my shit was good no yours it was good but it wasn't it wasn't journalism yeah no i broke some news but yeah that's that's fair you know so it's stressful when you're putting information out that you know is going to piss people off too, right? Because that's the other part of this is when you report stuff, I think people just take the information and run. The rest of my day is filled with taking calls from agents, players, PR people.
Hey, I didn't like the tone of that. What do you mean by this? Even when I write like glowing reports about teams

or a coach or a player, someone's always mad.

So I publish Saturday morning at 10 a.m.

I spend my whole day dealing with the memes of the world.

Yes.

He's right there.

He's right there.

Someone's always mad.

He's right there.

I can feel it.

Memes, why are you so angry?

Memes, get out of here.

Let's go.

Let's have it.

Why are you angry?

You have a lot of hate in your heart.

Let it out.

Look at that. Listen to Scoop City.
Hi. What's his name? Jack Mack.
Inventor of Scoop City. Jack Mack.
Yeah, he actually invented Scoop City. You stole the name from him.
Oh, he was the one with the original Scoop. With the TikTok.
Jack, I'm so sorry I took the name. Either way, the Jets never made it an ultimatum, and I never reported that.
I'm sorry you took it that way. And who cares at this point? Oh, Jets fans care.
They care. Jets fans care a lot.
Also, here's the thing with memes is, memes, you can look up and see if she used the word ultimatum. You can listen to the podcast, and you can read my article, and you can see what it says.
No, reading a headline and basing all your facts on that is actually the correct way to do it. So memes, what do you have? Let's rip the bandaid off.
Why are you guys on such a hunt to find out or discover if my reporting's wrong? It's never been inaccurate. Not one thing I've ever reported about the New York Jets has been wrong.
Well, I think your reports, the problem is the aggregators take your report and the way you word your report make it seem like you're coming directly after the Jets. Feelings are hurt.
Is your problem with the aggregators? We don't really have a beef. No, she is Dove Kleidman also.
She's ML football. So what's your beef, memes? The ultimatum.
That's my beef right now. What else? Did the Madden stuff bother you? The what stuff? The Madden stuff? No.
Well, yes, because the Ravens also use Madden rating. Oh, okay.
So you should have put that in there. But I didn't criticize it.
I didn't have an opinion about it. I just said, here's the facts.

You had the report that got it out there.

They were like, hey, we have an 18-year-old running the team,

which is a problem.

So again, your problem is not with her or her reporting.

It's the fact that she reported something.

There's 31 other teams.

Let's be even with it.

So you want dysfunction on every other team? Yes. You want me to go find that? There's dysfunction everywhere.
Not as much as in New York. Look, I think...
He's so mad. Oh my gosh, I broke your heart.
I didn't mean it that way. Look, I think things are going to get better.
How about the fact that Woody Johnson came out and said, I need to be a better owner? I thought that was awesome. That was self-awareness.
I don't think the article caused that. I think he's looking at his body of work going as an owner.
This isn't good. This isn't good at all.
He got an F today, but... If your reporting helps get Woody Johnson out, that's fine.
What else can I do? If you're taking down the new leadership, the head coach... I can't win with you.
That's what I realized. No, he's going to be mad at you.
I think it's really just like the don't shoot the messenger, shoot the message. He's just going to shoot the messenger every time.
I represent the stuff that bothers you. And I don't want to.
You realize I love the Jets. Like I grew up a Jets fan.
No, you hate the Jets. I don't hate the Jets.
I don't know what the Jets ever did to you, but you hate the Jets. All right, so Memes, do you have anything else besides the ultimatum that is bothering you right now? No.
We could be friends if you're reporting gets Woody Johnson out. Oh, okay.
So there you go. You've got your mission.
No, I'm good there. I don't want to be friends.
I just want to be cool. I feel like there's just so much tension between us.
Because Max and I used to have a little tension because of our situation.

But we've now worked past that. That reporting could have been a lie.

Oh.

Now, it's all called into questions.

Wow.

I think that reporting was incredible.

Wait.

You are questioning my-

We don't have to talk about that reporting.

That reporting is fine.

We are not going through this again.

We are not going through this again.

But I can tell you- Stand by. I will stand by that one for a long time.
I also stand by that reporting. That's a fact.
What if she just reports occasionally better stories about the Jets? That could work. What if you guys win games? It's a start.
That could also work. That could also work.
I mean, if you go through a season where you fire a coach without like a plan in place to replace him and then the guy that you used to replace him his unit goes to shit and then your quarterback has like the most drama filled year ever where he's talking about running for vice president i feel like he didn't oh he didn't talk about that you talked about that well no it was you you were the first person to bring that i was the first person you said you heard it true but it was true dan i wrote some stuff about the bears yeah how did like did you they're a dumpster fire did you call me like no they're a dumpster fire no it's usually i actually appreciate reporters because they bring to light uh things that should be brought to light so it's like when there's a problem i want it reported so that they can be embarrassed by that problem. So that's what I thought fans wanted as well.
I thought that type of reporting and journalism was something that was missing because there's not a lot of outlets that are doing that type of reporting anymore. But I found in New York, the fans actually don't want to know.
They don't want to just say it's awesome. Like memes, you would rather like the fact that the Br brick Johnson playing Madden as the shadow GM, that's a good story to come out because then the Jets might look in the mirror and be like, oh shit, this is stupid.
We should stop doing this. If they don't, if Diana doesn't report that, they just can keep doing that and no one will ever know.
But did you hear what I said that the Ravens do that? Except the Ra best organizations? Except the Madden ratings are looked at by the adult general manager, not the child of the owner. A very, very important distinction.
Which we stand by Brick. Brick's great.
He probably listens to the show. I hope Brick turns out to be an awesome owner.
We'll see. He's getting his feet wet.
Yeah. So what are some storylines that you're working on this week besides Miles Garrett, Matt Stafford? Well, the receiver market, right? The whole Bengals situation.
Like, how are they going to pay all these guys? How? I have a prediction. This is bold.
But if they franchise tag T. Higgins, I think maybe the hamstring injury might crop up once or twice next season.
Yeah. He doesn't want to be tagged.
They came out publicly and said what I've been hearing is that they do want to work on a long-term deal. But I can tell you teams that are interested in T are operating like he's not leaving Cincinnati.
Most of the league thinks he's going to get tagged in the end, as you said, but I don't think that's going to be the good play. But I just have a hard time doing the math of how this can all work, of how they can bring all these guys back when they're claiming it's going to be done soon too.
And if they do, that's awesome. But so I'm keeping an eye on that one.
And then just Kansas City, you know, like we saw what the Eagles did to them. They got to get better on the offensive line.
They're trying to get Trey Smith done. I think he was going to hit free agency too.
But they saw what happened to Patrick in the game and they're like shit we probably need to bring him back so I just I like this idea that the Chiefs are going to revamp here and try to fix it the way they did after Tampa because it looked almost identical I felt that same panic and I think we saw it in Patrick, right? After the second play, it was like,

this is not the normal chill Mahomes with some time.

He sees the problem, Jalen Carter.

Right.

So is there a team that you talk to and you're impressed in being like,

maybe they haven't taken that step and been a playoff team

or a Super Bowl contender, but you're like,

they're doing things the correct way and it's coming. And it's important to, because to, to differentiate, because I think a lot of teams talk about what they want to do.
And there's those that are actually doing, I think the Denver Broncos are on their way. Yeah.
Right. I, you know, I think Sean Payton's got one of the best, um, like grips on a team.
He's so good at knowing what's best for them. He's hard.
Um, like you go to their practices, they're brutal to watch he's a little bit like Andy where they just go hard all summer but just the fact that he hit on Bo Nix and they're just going to continue to build around him and they've got him on a young rookie deal they've got a little swag to them they want to compete, they want to play the Chiefs so I I'd say they're a team. And New England right now, I'm probably most excited to see what they're going to do.
This is a gigantic offseason for the New England Patriots for the future. I don't think they're going to be that great next year.
I think they'll probably win seven, eight games. Well, actually, that's probably good if you're concerned where they came from or where they were last year.
But I think it's 26, right? Where I think that's where it's good. They're going to be contenders.
They're going to be guys that are going after giving Josh Allen a problem. What are you hearing about the draft in terms of their teams that are, you expect to be aggressive, possibly moving around, possibly trading up.

It's a weird draft because it doesn't,

it doesn't feel like teams are totally sold on both quarterbacks,

but we know that both quarterbacks are going to get drafted really high

because that's just how it goes.

But how is,

how are teams approaching it?

I know it's,

it's funny.

It's that idea of like,

you don't go to the grocery store hungry,

right?

Right.

I always do.

Every single time.

Yeah.

It's the worst.

Why else are you going to the grocery store? And then I start eating when I'm at the grocery store. Yeah.
I need seven types of Oreos. I was going to say, why do you always crave weird stuff when you go to the grocery store, right? I'm like, I'm eating Twizzlers, but I really want to, I want eggnog, I think.
It's like, that makes no sense. Yeah.
Well, that might be because you're pregnant. Not right now.
But you were. Do you crave eggnog? I see Dan last night and he goes, he goes he's right by the way what an observation by you i got the eye for that because i walked up to the table drinking water which i guess in indy nobody's drinking water and i'm definitely never drinking water um but i was like i need i need to take a break like i've been going so hard from new orleans to now i need to just i need one hour and i just happened to see you when i had that water and you gave me that look i was like you looked in my soul like you went well three there is context because we have discussed the difference between two and three and and how much it changes everything so i was like oh she did it i can't do it um physically mentally um my husband is the happiest i have ever seen him right now because of the eagles winning yeah that i I don't want to rock the boat.
I don't want to shake things up in my house because like even- Good vibes, yeah. Like you guys know how it is.
Like I'm on the road. I got the two little guys back at home.
Kev hasn't even texted me one thing since I've been here. No, actually he did.
He asked me about something with Jalen Carter, just a stupid football question, but no, like, he just, he just uses you as like anything. Oh, constantly.
Um, but in terms of like the happiness, the joy in our home right now is better than it has ever been. It wasn't like this after we got married, not after Mikey, not after Joey.
Like it is so good. And I, we got to squeeze this thing out.
Like's Eagles. Birds.
Every time I see Howie, I just hug him. You saved my marriage.
Things were so rough right there. Birds.
Especially when I wasn't too sure what they were going to be. Max had Sirianni in the hot seat.
Max had Sirianni. I was doing the same thing because there were people around the league looking at it the way I think the fans were looking at it, which is with all of this talent and all the pieces that Howie has put to assemble this championship team, the coach can't be the reason this doesn't happen.
Right. You know? And so credit to Sirianni for, I think, growing in all of this.
Yeah. And he even sounds like he's grown from it.
He was tremendous. He talked to me right after they won, right on the field.
And he was so reflective of just owning that it hasn't been perfect. And I love that about him.
I'm like, yeah, I wasn't good. I was too emotional.
Wait, so we went on a tangent. Back to the question, who's going to be aggressive? Oh, I think the Giants are going to try to get up to trade out with the Titans.
I think they're going to be aggressive in this. They're obviously also keeping their eye on Stafford.
And Tennessee is open for business. I think the approach that they are going to have headed into this is we need to get some picks.
We need to continue to build because they were the worst team in football last year. After having a free agency spending, they went crazy bringing in in players but they didn't really find any pillars you know they didn't find any blocks that they were to use to continue to get better in the future um so that's really where i'm i'm keeping my eye on and and i think the raiders are going to be making moves i have my eye on them outside the stafford thing as i mentioned before um tom br Brady has a lot of influence on what's going on there, and he wants to shake it up there.
They want to do it that way. So we'll see what happens.
Max Crosby is obviously a player that tons of teams are interested in if he'd be made available, but I think Brady's smart enough to know you don't move a guy like Max Crosby. Yeah.
What's up with his contract? Isn't it? It's non-guaranteed. He's got two years left.
Yeah. No guaranteed money.
They keep saying that they're going to be extending him or at least working on it. But until you have a deal, right? It's like, so we're outing until you have a deal, you don't have a deal.
Yeah. I think his situation is different than like Miles Garrett.
Look, Miles wants to get paid, of course, he wants to be paid the highest in that position, but he really wants to win. Like he, he's got this attitude.
Like it's not happening here in Cleveland. Like I don't like your plan.
And I think we could all agree that the plan is not great. Right.
I don't even know what they're going to do in terms of quarterback here. I mean, I think they're going to wind up drafting one probably.
That's definitely on the table for them. They poked around on the Stafford stuff a little, but they're not as aggressive as the Giants and the Raiders at this point.
But I think for Max, he just wants to win too. But he's going to get paid.
Do you miss at all the Sunday morning routine of going? Of freezing water? Yeah, that was an all-time clip. Love that when you were like look how cold it is at foxborough you turn the water upside down and it was it was cold water that you didn't point out that it was cold water you were just like oh it's still liquid but it was really cold i know it doesn't shock you guys because you know me for so long but i my dad said this to me once he's like you're the smartest dumb person i know like i have moments where that's place to be.
That's really good. It's way better than actually like that.
You're the poster child. Yeah.
It's a great spot. You have some brilliant, um, like just you're a talented human being and you say things, but I've heard you say things where I'm like, dad is dumb.
Well, cause you never know. You can keep people on their toes.
Like we did a Pope watch on Monday and people were like, dude, you just said a bunch of like St. Louis Cardinals prospects.
It was like, I did that on purpose, but I also could have made a mistake. Kind of never know.
There's a good way to keep people, uh, you know, ready for, or unready for, for, for, for what you got. So yeah.
A team we haven't talked about in a while. I feel like, uh, the Cowboys was the league shocked when they went with Brian Schottenheimer in that entire coaching search? Because it didn't feel like they did a coaching search.
Yeah. I'd heard they did a little bit.
I'd heard that they did some backdoor stuff. They weren't sure they were really going to move on from Mike.
So let's start there, right? So there was obviously not some big plan, right? Because most of these teams know, all right, we're firing this guy. Let's start putting the feelers out.
Let's meet and think about what it is that we're looking for in this next head coach. But I think for Dallas, they weren't sure how that was going to go with Mike.
I think they thought he'd stay. I thought that they'd be able to knock out a contract.
They obviously were not able to do that after having conversations with him. And at the time, Belichick was already kind of doing the North Carolina thing.
And I'd heard that Dallas had some feelers out to him. So if that's their search, I mean, it probably could have been better.
They probably could have gotten more opportunities with other coaches if they made the call earlier. So you could be critical of that.
Yeah, it felt clunky. Very clunky.
And I can tell you, though, from the perspective of the Dallas Cowboys,

Brian Schottenheimer had to be a piece of it.

Whether that meant head coach, OC, they were not parting ways of Brian Schottenheimer.

So, yeah, surprised that he's the head coach,

but not as surprised knowing that that was part of the formula

for what they wanted in Next.

Right.

Well, they also had a phone call to Deion Sanders.

Yeah.

Right?

Jerry Jones talked to him?

I remember. So that story came out,, you know, as a reporter, you start making calls like, is this real? Like, this is crazy.
And everyone that I trust was like, this is not real. This is not like, I'm going to go hard on this.
If I go hard, you know, the chances of Deion tweeting about it are probably good. Like, if I'm wrong on it.
So I'm like, you know, I'm just going to go for it And obviously panned out to just be light flirting. Maybe not even like a call.
Like how are, how are the kids? His eyes at Dion. Yeah.
An ultimatum. Yeah.
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TakeAKE. So we had Schefter on on Friday's show.
I'm going to ask you a similar question. The NFL can't do a Super Bowl abroad.
Can you make sure that doesn't happen? Why not? Why don't you want to do it? It would suck. It would suck ass.
Don't do that. I mean, look, coming off New Orleans, it's hard to imagine the travel.
If you took the logistics out of it, would you be into it? No. No, no game it's america's game you can't give the game to another country the food in london sucks it doesn't have to the teeth are bad you're gonna have media members just complaining all week teeth are bad you think the teeth would affect the bad teeth okay what if it was in italy and we got to.
And what are the teeth like? Too many perverts. Are you calling Italians perverts? I just, I don't think that the NFL should do an overseas game for the Super Bowl.
I'm open to it. Okay.
I don't like that. I like the rules.
We can't rely on you. You can't depend on me to say he could take.
Memes is starting to make a lot of sense. I see what you're saying, memes.
It's a bad, bad opinion that you have. As somebody who is complaining about the travel to every Super Bowl, you're right, like, taking a 10-hour flight for that week would be miserable.
Imagine being stuck next to Max on the flight over to London. Yeah, not great.
We're done talking about that. Literally, that would be, he'd gas you out.
I do have a complaint. It seems that you've turned your back On Washington D.C.
What? You used to be You used to dabble in D.C. homerism I'm all I tweet every time they win Like I can't imagine what it's like in Washington Holy crap Jayden's amazing Like Dan Quinn Coach of the year Like What are you talking about? You used to gas up the Capitals occasionally I did You talked about I was I was watching the other day.
How is he still playing? It's crazy. You want to talk about us being old? Like he is old and he's out here chasing.
Look, I think this, it's almost unbelievable. I think that's what it is.
It's, it's been so good. And if it appears from ownership down and the way they're building it that it's almost hard

to fathom that it's real you know so it's not that i don't want to jump on it it's just i need it i need one more year to be like okay they're really good this this is great because my hopes now are high my hopes are high for the bears if they can improve caleb get them an offensive line get a couple of weapons on defense i think it's a lot of things you just said it's a lot Ben Johnson seems like he's the guy.

I think so.

I think he is.

In this.

Oh, man. All right.
Well, Diana, thank you as always. You're the best.
It's great having you on. Full Italian podcast with you and Nick Sirianni.
So much. Big time.
Love it. I need a good food.
That's what I need to be doing. Any questions for us? Get those numbers up on Scoop City.
I think you need to reb diana rossini podcast featuring diana rossini you think that's what i sure named it called it yeah the diana rossini podcast yeah yeah so you don't like scoop city no i like scoop city you stole it from jack mack but i like sorry about that yeah i told you how people were asking me in football if it was a podcast about ice cream that would would be cool. I would listen.
You would listen to that?

You know what?

I'll break my boycott

and I'll come on

if we only talk about ice cream.

Perfect.

That's it.

No questions about anything else.

Nothing else, just ice cream talk.

Have all the Bears fans

tune in thinking

they're going to give

the hot takes about Chicago.

Yeah, even call it

like the Sunday Mailbag,

but it's spelled S-U-N-D-A-E.

Oh, that's smart.

I'll take my shirt off

and eat some ice cream.

Yeah.

Another good idea,

so I'll take it.

I'll take it and run with it, so thank you. All right.
Thank you so much, Diana. Should I have a third? Yeah.
Yeah. It's a lot, but it's also going to be awesome when they're all a little older.
Let's just go for two back-to-back Super Bowls. Yeah, there you go.
That's what I'll go for. Then you'll have the third after you win a second Super Bowl.
Yeah. Super Bowl, baby.
Yeah, exactly. All right, thanks, Dan.
Thanks, guys. Okay, let's wrap up.
Adrian Brody threw his gum at his wife. That's our other Oscars.
Brutal. Why? I don't know.
Because he had to go up and give a speech. And he threw his gum at her? He had gum in his mouth, and he tossed it back at her.
This is some high-level Oscar stuff for people. I would never do that.
Will Smith has been topped. He has.
Just search Adrian Brody. What are you doing? Best picture.
That's so funny. I don't know.
Oh, that's weird. Max searched best picture and it was just a highlight of Cooper DeGene's pick six.
No, it wasn't. Oh, it was Devante Smith.
Sorry. Alright, thank you to Nick Sirianni and Diana Rossini.
Let's do numbers. We gotta get it.
Someone's gotta get it. Six.
It's been a while. I think memes are gonna get it today.
Pug, are you a little upset at yourself? Because someone pointed out that if you had continued your working backwards from 99, you would have gotten it Friday at 93. Yeah, I would have kept getting it if I kept going down from 98.
But I couldn't forgive myself if 99 did show up. And I went like 94 or something.
Yeah. So I just got to stick with it.
Brutal. Okay.
Say the numbers again.

Three.

Six.

27.

I'll go 77 for Luca.

99, Pug.

24.

Luca might be the chins of this.

21.

11.

Memes, you ever gotten this?

Nope.

Well, I have.

Are you ever going to get it?

I think Memes is going to get it today. Memes, what did you pick? Three.
Here comes three, Memes, you ever gotten this? Nope. Well, I have.
Are you ever going to get it? I think Memes is going to get it today. Memes, what did you pick?

Three.

Here comes three, Memes.

I'm so sick.

Memes' birthday, by the way, 30.

Happy birthday, Memes.

Happy birthday, Memes.

Wait, today's your fucking birthday?

Well, not today.

Today, people listen to it.

Yeah.

Which is today.

Oh, so I didn't miss your birthday.

No.

I got all day to fucking throw gifts at you.

Memes, I got your present.

Did you?

Thank you. Which is today Oh So I didn't miss your birthday No I got all day to fucking Which is today Throw gifts at you Memes I got your present Did you? Yeah Cool It's flight simulator It's getting delivered to the office Oh fuck yeah 32 There's a 3 in there Memes You know what For Memes' birthday Let's run it again Let's count Yep 3 Let's go Come on Memes 11 I'll go 30 I'm glad that wasn't 33 because that was the other one.
3-3. I'll go 33, memes.
Damn it. It's your birthday, memes.
30th. I'll go 5.
Ugh. 99, poke.
77. Jack picked 77.
Oh, you fucking dick, Jack. He did 77? Yeah, 77.
Right after I did. He didn't even know.
He doesn't have headphones. Oh, he didn't even know.
What was your number last time, Jack? I didn't remember last time. 24.
All right, I'll go 24. So you're out on 33? I'm out on 33.
I'll take 33. All right, everyone say their number.
Five. 30.
11. Three.
Wait, what's Max? 9 or 9. Put.
24. 77.
Put. 29.
People are going to think from the timestamps that someone got it. 5.
5. Yes, PFT.
Let's go. Yes.
The only thing memes had over you, you've now erased. Jaden Daniels.
On his birthday. Happy birthday.
I thought you were going to say I got some of you. You know what? You know what? I got memes a present.
It's the number five. Memes, I'd like you to have this.
I'd like you to go fuck yourself. Memes said I'm taller than him, so technically I have everything over him.
That's good. That's good.
Memes, I want to award this five to you. Not going to get angry.
Wow. Am I allowed to do that? Can I give Memes mine? No, you're not, but it's a nice gesture.
Yeah, you can't do it. I wanted to.
I wish you would. Hold on.
I'm literally trying to do that right now. Hold on.
Let me pull up the bylaws real quick. Because as it stands, this five that I just picked for myself, I would rather Memes have it.
I want to give that five to Memes. I want Memes to get his first hit.
Okay. All right.
I'm finding it. Under Section 17, Rule No.
84, it says that no lottery ball participant can give their winning ball to anyone else, even if it's their birthday. Even if it's Memes' birthday is actually what it says.
Except for that one time. Although that wasn't, that was different.
That wasn't it. That was before the selection.
Yeah, it was some stupid fucking rule. But now, Memes, you got nothing.
You got nothing. Yeah, I got nothing.
Happy birthday, Memes. Memes, you know what? One more just for you.
You're the only one who can say the number. It's got to be three.
Okay. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? Yeah.
Oh, Memes, it's got to be three. You so do.
Are you sure? It has to be. Are you sure, Memes? I don't think it's going to be three.
You should pick another number right now. No, it's going to be three.
You should pick another number right now, Memes. It's not going to be three.
I can't think it's gonna be three you should pick another number right now you should pick another number right now it's not gonna be true come on names it's so easy you got this oh six you're so close damn didn't Hank pick that before I pick six memes I told you to pick a different number. You want to do one more memes? All right, one more memes.
Yeah, we'll keep going. Memes, there's an obvious number.
He's never going to get it. There's an obvious number? Is it three? No.
Seven. Five, six, seven.
But I'm going to pick seven, and then three's going to pop. No, you got it, Memes.
Pick your number.

All right, seven.

Okay.

I hope it's three so bad.

I want it to be three so bad.

Nothing would be better.

Ah, 81.

Not even close.

Not even close.

Memes, you're going to get this.

No, he's not.

He's never going to get it.

Happy birthday, though, Memes. Happy birthday, Memes.

Happy birthday.

Ugh, Tardnox was crazy.

Love you guys.

Love you, Memes.

Damn, fuck off. Thank you.
Thank you.