Chris Long Talking Divisional Round, Adam Schefter On Coaching Carousel, Picks And Preview + Fyre Fest

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On today's Pardon My Take, it is time for Divisional Round of the NFL Playoffs.

We have our good friend Chris Long on the show.

Been too long.

Too long.

Live of the year.

Three times?

I think first two years he might have had it.

Yeah. But right now, Jerry looks to be at the start of a dynasty yeah he's he's on fire uh we have chris long then we have our good friend adam schefter we're gonna break down some of this coaching stuff is dion gonna go to dallas i it seems like that's a possibility now god i hope so it would be incredible we're gonna break down every game for saturday and sunday we're gonna give you picks.
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Today is Friday, January 17th.

And Hank, you know what I'm about to say.

One of my favorite weekends of the year. Divisional round.
And my sister's birthday. Oh, no, I was not going to say that.
Happy birthday to Hank's sister. Happy birthday.
What's up? Happy birthday. I was thinking about it.
I might. Wild card weekend is great because it's six games.
More football, more better. But divisional round.
This is it. This is the final eight teams all have won you know won a playoff game or had a buy this is the cream of the crop this is this is my favorite i've been pretty consistent about this one this is my favorite sports weekend of the year yeah because in wild card weekend sometimes you have you get some lopsided matchups which we saw last week divisional round you get the the uh prestigious teams you get the the elite teams playing against teams where they win their wild card matchup, and even if they weren't favored to go far in the playoffs, you're like, well, maybe the Texans can do some damage this year, that type of thing.
So this is my favorite sports weekend of the year. And also, next weekend, one of my favorite sports weekends of the year.
Oh, the championship? Yeah, because you get the ticket. I mean, the championship round round is always you remember who played in championship game that you don't always remember who played in divisional round next week is my favorite sunday of the year yeah yeah my favorite sports weekend of the year but i'm pumped and i've thought about all four of these games back and forth i i got ways some people were angry at me because i was like the commanders are final four this weekend this is the final four and they're like there's not four teams left i was like there's four games yeah there's four games and you're also are in the final four the nfc final four yeah have some have some conference pride people yeah come on get with the program uh all right we're gonna do our picks and preview do we have anything else going on i know we're gonna talk to shofter about coaching uh it does i did see edwarder's report that essentially said Deion Sanders if he gets offered the Cowboys job will take it yeah now Jerry Jones will he offer him the Cowboys job I want it just because it'd be fun I think it'd be great I and I'm not even factoring in like yes I have an anti-Dallas bias we've demonstrated that pretty clearly on the show that it's been fun to see Dallas at times times lose especially when hank's rooting for him i want it because it would be just an incredible story for the nfl like having dion in the nfl especially for the dallas cowboys would be awesome like i want to see dion interacting with jerry jones how he handles that relationship where jerry you know he likes to have a guy that he can push around sometimes.
Dion will not be pushed around by Jerry Jones. Yep.

It would just be awesome.

It would be good for sports.

Yeah, it would.

It would be good for sports.

So we'll see what happens there.

Mike McCarthy did interview with the Bears.

He did it in person because he wanted the free dinner, I assume.

Yeah.

That's not a fat joke.

One possibility.

Yeah.

Also, maybe just a possibility that Mike McCarthy, he knows that face-to-face is way better than Zoom. That's true.
Maybe not with his face. Right.
Or also, wait, maybe he just knew that if he showed his face on Zoom, it would look too much like him looking at the scoreboard with his fat, confused face. It would take the whole Zoom up.
Yeah, it's like the camera adds 40 pounds, right? Right. So maybe him being in person was just a slimming move.
That might be true. And I don't even know what the going to do i feel like the jets have been what what's going on memes and well shefter will tell us but what is going on uh there was a report that aaron glenn is his he wants the jets jets fans want aaron glenn which means we're going to make the wrong choice okay okay so it's yeah it's it's straight it.
It's as straightforward as possible that one side wants him, the other side wants, like, this is a perfect marriage and they will fuck it up. So the Jets, they seem to be enjoying single life right now.
They're doing a lot of dating. They're figuring out what their type is because they're meeting with everyone.
I hate. Wait, how many did you do? Did you beat the Bears? No.
The Bears did 20. I don't even know how you could come up with 20 names.

I think.

Well, with the Jets, it's like they're doing GMs as well.

Yeah.

It's like you're doing your own version of that OnlyFans check.

Yeah.

You're going to.

Woody Johnson is going to hold up a sign that says a thousand.

A thousand candidates.

Interview series.

I think they just also put in a request to interview the DC for the Packers.

I don't even know what they're doing at this point.

I think they're just.

Robert Salah?

It's. No, Robert Salah, I think, is a finalist for the Saints.
Yeah. And the Cowboys.
And the Cowboys. Yeah, I don't really understand the whole process of interviewing 20, 25 guys.
I get the saying of no stone unturned or whatever. There's some stones you don't want to look under.
Yeah, David Shaw, you didn't have to look under what that was. It just said a punt.
A bunch of weird bugs and shit. Yeah, it said punt from plus territory.
I think David Shaw is a classy guy. Yeah.
He's just a class act, so they just wanted some class in that. He is also a classic case of mistiming it.
Yes. Like he was the hot name for a while, and then it kind of faded on him.

You got to just strike while the iron's hot.

All right, so we'll ask Schefter what's going on with the Jets. Did you see also our good friend Jim Harbaugh gave me in this podcast a shout-out

because he's also buying all of Justin Herbert's stock?

That's insider trading for him, though.

Was he asked the question about you, or did he just see the clip?

No, he saw the clip.

He came in prepared.

He's weird. I saw that's insider trading for him, though.
Was he asked the question about you or did he just see the clip? No, he saw the clip. He came in prepared.
The question was something like, how did this game go and everything? And then he started answering it. And then he was like, and one last thing.
Can you play it, Max? He was like, and one last thing. You know, Big Cat said this.
And I mean, listen, I'm ready to buy stock. It was kind of, outside of the fact that it was, I love that he mentioned me, it's kind of cool how much he has Herbert's back.
Yeah. All right, play it.
I agree with Big Cat, you know, from when he said, if you're, if you're, he said, paraphrasing this, but Big Cat said, if you're selling Justin Herbert's stock and he's buying I completely concur with that statement so we're going to make billions buying Justin Herbert's stock I mean if you really think that Justin Herbert is a bad quarterback I question whether or not you watch football yeah agreed i do oh wait hey i do in fact question if hank yeah that's true you are this is the you're the perfect person to be sitting on that couch being like oh and two in the playoffs thanks yes he's not a bad quarterback no he's talented he's a very good quarterback he's got's got talented. Yes, he's got talented.
He's got talented. Also, Harbaugh.
I mean, if Lamar loses this weekend, again, it's kind of this. He won't make him a bad quarterback.
He's not a bad quarterback. Lamar's obviously really good.
But still, if you can't win in the playoffs, it doesn't matter how good you are. Who cares? Two games is very early to say you can't win in the playoffs.
Would you not agree with that? Two bad games. The first game, yeah, no, they were two bad games.
I agree with that. They were two bad games.
Because remember, the first game, he didn't throw interceptions, but he couldn't get first downs. It was one and a half bad games.
But he, I still, if next year they go and they're like, get a home game and he completely shits the bed, I will start to possibly do some insider trade.

Nancy Pelosi unload a little bit of the stock, but maybe not say it.

Cannons.

I think that what Hank said a second ago is insane.

That who cares if you're a good quarterback if you don't win the playoffs?

I care.

I think it matters. If you're a good quarterback in the regular season, you're still a good quarterback.
Yeah, you do have to elevate your game. You do have to elevate.
You just have people tacking on to it, but he can't win the play. Yeah, I just think two games is way too early to say like he can never win in the playoffs.
Yeah, like he if he gets a couple receivers and they get, like I said, a home playoff game and he's terrible then i'll be like you know what maybe there's something there but until that happens i'm buying i'm buying all the stock did you see also harbaugh like a hockey guy is uh he's getting a heart surgery and a hip new hip at the off season yeah he's getting that well it's the heart ablation yeah so that's in a shocking twist of events i think i accurately diagnosed Harbaugh when he had that moment on the sidelines. I was like, he'll get an ablation, he'll be fine.
It's like they're going to shock part of his heart. They're going to put an electrical charge into part of his heart and kill off the bad cells, leaving his heart stronger.
It's like the buffalo herd theory. Jesus.
Where the weak buffaloes get hunted down by the predators, and then the herd moves faster in the long run. Damn.
Yeah. That's a crazy surgery.
Yeah, so it's outpatient, I think. Just put electrical charges on his heart, and then he's going to walk out of there feeling 100% better.
Do you guys ever think about how crazy surgery is? Yeah. Do you ever...
We were talking about the other day, LASIK. They invented a way to shoot lasers in your eye to make you look, to make you have 20-20 vision for the rest of your life.
Yeah, surgery. That's fucking insane.
Surgery. To me, the crazy part is just anesthesia.
Yeah. They figured out a way where they can, like, kind of kill you for a second.
You don't remember anything. You don't feel pain.
And then you just come back. And anesthesiologists, Ihesiologists i think make bank they make bank yeah i want to be anesthesiologist after the super bowl every year yes like just put me in a coma until march madness yeah well we we've talked about the idea of uh i really think it would do well like a a a pod that you could put your body into after a bachelor party for 24 hours that's like like refrigerated.
Yeah. You know, when they, when there's a spinal injury and they bring your body temperature down to like 86 to, to stop the swelling.
Imagine if so, if you're like, all right, I just finished a three day bender. I'm going to go lay in this pod for 24 hours.
They're going to knock me out. They're going to cool my body down.
And when I wake up, I'll feel great. That's why you got to take the buffer day after the bachelor party.

Yes.

Like take that work day off on Monday. I had a friend once who did a move that was insane, but looking back at it was like, holy shit, he might be a genius.

He rented a hotel room in the city we were in and stayed on Sunday night just to sleep.

Yeah.

And then flew back on Monday.

I had some buddies that-

You have the extra day.

Yeah.

That's very smart.

Yeah, he's just like we all were ready to go to the airport and he's like all right i'm going to my hotel and i'm like what are you gonna do he's like i'm gonna probably eat dinner by myself go to sleep at seven o'clock and sleep i had some buddies we did that for a bachelor party in uh in colorado where on the last day they just said okay we're gonna leave we're gonna go up to denver it's when weed had just been legalized there like we're just gonna get really high and sleep all day uh sunday and then into monday morning yeah go but ease ourselves back into the real world yeah i shit even after doing like two nights where you don't sleep that well it'd be awesome to have that pod go in at like 6 p.m right and then wake up at like 10 a.m the Someone invent that. Yeah.
We have all types of surgeries. Max, are you thinking about your bachelor party that you got to go on? Or bachelorette? Or bachelorette? Yeah.
Yeah, I was going to talk about that. We haven't got a lot of submissions.
I mean, the submission we got last night is an all-timer. You want to say it? No.
Let's talk about a Fyre Fest. It's a Fyre Fest.
It's a Fyre a fire fest? Do you have a fire fest this week? No, we can just talk about it then. Okay.
Why not just a minute? We're naturally talking about bachelor parties. That's fine.
We'll circle back to the bachelor parties. Yeah, we'll circle back to the bachelor parties.
What's the issue? It's football. It's time to talk about football.
Okay. I have one non-football related story.
I think it's one of the more fascinating stories of the year and it's a soccer story coming out of italy what is this so hey just what a lead and yeah we're talking about other football so far i'd say this is the story of the year okay uh lazio the the italian football club okay they're in a bit of hot water right now because they have an official team falconer falconer the guy that flies the falcon he does falconry he does falconry yeah he's a falconer falconer falconer he's he does falconry yes so this guy uh he's been with the team for years and years and years and he he manages the falcon flies around the stadium they're the falcons uh their mascot is a a Falcon. Okay.
It's part of pageantry. Dumb question.
Just wanted to. The Serie A club Lazio.
Yeah. This guy just got fired.
Okay. He got fired because he had a penile enhancement surgery.
Was he fucking the Falcon? No, he was not. Okay.
Well, we don't know. Okay.
We don't know. I can't take a story about a guy fucking a Falcon.
To my knowledge, he has has not fucked a falcon, but it would not shock me if it went there at some point. Okay.
Because it's a crazy story. So this guy got fired because he got a dick implant.
That's not cause for firing, but right after he got the dick implant, he posted a picture of his dick with a dick implant saying what a great surgery he just had and how he needs to ejaculate at least twice a day with as many women as possible the owner of the club said this like in his pants or just straight up posted his dick naked i have not seen the picture i've just i've read the articles about his dick was out in the picture and he's bragging about his his dick implant so he was fired the owner of lazio was very very upset with him this guy apparently lives on the training ground with the falcon he lives like in the team facility with the falcon uh he was suspended in 2021 because he was doing a benito mussolini salute and then they brought him back they said okay you've served your time we're bringing you back so fascism okay fascism okay it's not uh so he has been fired from the team for posting this picture and then he barricaded himself inside the team's facility demanding that he have his job reinstated so he's in a hostage situation potentially with the falcon like threatening to kill the falcon to get his job back and jerking off because he's got to ejaculate twice he has to ejaculate twice a day the owner also fired the doctor that did the penile enhancement surgery because apparently that guy's also the team doctor so the team doctor gave the falconer a new dick this feels very wrong in the fact that like it's an italian league yeah i mean italiansny. They're horny.
Why would the owner be against this? This guy... Guy's just trying to get laid and also lay better.
This guy... Is it the owner? It might be like the owner's not Italian.
Oh, and the owner's got a small dick. The owner's definitely got a tiny penis.
The owner is 100% Italian. His name is Lotito.
Lotito. So Lotito.
Claud so lotito claudio lotito and then uh then he did come out and officially say that the the picture that he posted is worse than the fascist salute okay yeah so the story just keeps getting weirder i don't know what's going to go on with this hostage negotiation if he kills the falcon i'm out on this guy right now i think i'm on his side claudio people are the streets are saying that you're upset because you have a smaller penis in this guy yeah don't let that become the story yeah let this guy just keep his job and keep the falcon safe he's listen what i mean people get surgery to get themselves better what what's wrong with that i agree like some people this podcast have had some elective surgeries, and there's nothing wrong with that. There's no problem.
He had a procedure done. And yeah, I just want to say I stand with the Falconer.
As long as he doesn't harm the Falcon. Not the Mussolini stuff.
Yep. I disavow that.
Yep. But I think he's Italian.
He's Italian. Let him be a little bit horny.
I think it's good for club morale you don't want to have a falconer out there with a tiny penis no that's awful no so he's trying to better himself he's probably trying to improve the club's image as well and if if he does harm the falcon then i'm out on this guy but right now i think he's reacting as as you or i would yeah if we were in this situation which is to grab a bird it hostage, and then barricade yourself inside your employer's facility. While you masturbate all the time.
While you masturbate all the time. I don't see anything wrong with this.
And yeah, we stand with him until he does- Until he hurts the Falcon. Harm the Falcon, at which point we wash our hands.
I also, it sounds like, and I don't know the picture, but it sounds like he was just kind of putting out like a PSA. Yeah.

Like, hey, I got an awesome new dick, and it needs to get sucked.

So that's what he was.

So could anyone who's got a mouth, let me know.

His explanation for it was I was promoting self-love.

Yeah.

I was shining visibility on a part of lives where people are generally afraid to discuss this.

They're ashamed, and they shouldn't be ashamed. Look had the surgery it's good for me you can too yeah

yeah raising awareness of his bigger penis and just yeah self-betterment should not be frowned

upon they gotta get girls that's how you break through the hostage situation yeah send some

girls in open the doors and then bust in yeah send some chicks in all right so falcon falconer falconry guy falconer keep keep fighting but don't fight the falcon oh also the the doctor that was fired by the team claims that he was not fired oh because he's not under contract with the team and also probably because claudio wants that surgery. Yeah.
Is what the streets are saying.

Yeah.

Again, Claudio, don't make this part of the stories.

You're jealous of someone else's penis size.

So this guy is the team doctor, but he didn't have a current contract in place.

That's just wild to me that the team doctor is putting dicks in.

Yeah.

But I guess it makes sense for Italian soccer.

Yeah, that's exactly what Italian soccer would be.

I bet you that guy that goes out on the field for the Cowboys with the cowboy hat, that

doctor, that guy's definitely giving Jerry Jones a penile implant.

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

I remember that guy.

He's the funniest.

Any guy who's wearing a cowboy hat who's a doctor or a lawyer is always funny.

Yeah.

How is Lazio doing this year?

I did not.

Oh, they're fourth.

Care to look that up.

They're fourth.

So they're actually good.

They're in the right now.

If they finish where they're at right now, they'd be in the Champions League next year.

They're ahead of Juventus.

So you're fucking up a good thing here, man.

I think this is a curse waiting to happen.

Waiting to happen.

Okay.

Should we talk some football?

Some American football?

Yep.

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So that was before Mahomes.

I think that was Alex Smith.

It was Mariota?

Mariota for the Titans, yeah.

So it's been a run for eight-plus point favorites in this round

to win outright.

So that's why I bring that up with the Texans and Chiefs

because right now the Chiefs, Texans versus

Chiefs on Saturday afternoon.

The Texans are 8.5 point dogs.

The over-under is 41.5.

I am not going to do the thing

where I tell myself

the Texans just won a playoff game. The Chiefs haven't

won any playoff games this year. You've got to take the Texans.

Yeah. Hank

is. Hank is 100% going to do that thing.

Which, that's good.

We need somebody that will do that. That won't be afraid.

Yeah, the Chief. Hank is 100% going to do that thing.
Which, that's good. We need somebody that will do that.
That won't be afraid. Yeah, the Chiefs' defense is completely different.
Their defensive line, Chris Jones against that Texans' offensive line, I think it's going to be an issue. And the Chiefs are healthy.
They're rested. They've got all their guys.
We saw them at the end of the season. Don't forget how good the Chiefs are.
Stop forgetting how good the Chiefs are. They're awesome.
Their offense is humming. Everything looks good for them.
Andy Reid off a bye. Don't overthink it.
It's also going to be a high of 17, low of 3 in Kansas City on Saturday. So Hank, did you count on that? No.
That the Texas boys going up Tornado Alley to Kansas City, playing outside at Arrowhead Stadium in the cold, that should factor into it too. Yeah, that's going to be a problem for the Texans.
Yeah. Jalen Watson is supposed to be back, which is huge for their defense because if you had to say one weakness is when he got hurt, Chiefs secondary could be vulnerable at times.
But I think this game comes more down to the Chiefs looking at their season. They did what they've done the last couple years where they won a shitload of games.
They looked not great in some of these games, so people threw doubts at them. And now they're coming into the playoffs, and their offense is fully healthy.

Pacheco's back.

They got Xavier Worthy, DeAndre Hopkins, Juju Smith-Schuster is getting worked in.

Hollywood Brown.

The last time we saw them, eight guys caught a ball,

and Patrick Mahomes had 320 yards and three touchdowns.

That was against the Steelers.

So I think they're just going to flip the switch,

and this offense is going to look great. And it's playoff Patrick Mahomes.
Playoff Patrick Mahomes in the divisional round. You ready for this? He is 6-0.
Yep. He has 1,813 total yards, 16 touchdowns, total touchdowns, zero interceptions, 70.4 completion percentage.
He plays in this divisional round, and he's basically just – I mean, he's undefeated. He's lights out.
That's just what happens. It should be six no asterisks because the Browns should have beat him that one year.
But not actually. But they didn't actually beat him.
Yeah, they didn't actually beat him. The Chiefs ended up winning that game.
But yeah, Patrick Mahomes in this round of playoffs. Lights out.
Don't forget that. Stop forgetting about the Chiefs.
This is the rematch of the original thanks for coming out yeah so back in 2019 the texans were up 24 to nothing against the chiefs yep with 10 minutes left in the second quarter yep they're up 24 nothing the final score 51 to 31 kansas city that was crazy they just poured it on them were down 24-0, 10 minutes left in the second quarter. The Chiefs were winning at halftime.
It was crazy. And that felt like that was right at the beginning of all of this happening and Patrick Mahomes becoming Patrick Mahomes.
He is also – how old is Patrick Mahomes now? Is he, what, like 28 years old maybe? Find his age. He is, if he wins this game, he has tied Joe Monta, 29 years old, Joe Montana for playoff wins.
That's crazy. It's crazy.
16. He's still got a long way to go.
Tom Brady has 35. But I was looking at it.
I think if he wins this game, he has something like more playoff wins than, I think it's like 10 or 11 franchises. Just him personally.
Yeah, the graphics are going to be crazy. Yeah.
So he's just so goddamn good. You can't forget about Patrick Holmes.
Now, also, he gets the baby bump. Yep.
So he welcomed a third child, Golden Ray Mahomes, who all three of their children are bronze, silver, gold. It's kind of crazy that he waited for the third one to be named gold.
Yeah. Bronze is, I think bronze is the second one because it's Patrick III is his son.
So he's technically, his nickname is bronze. And then Sterling Sky is silver and then Golden Ray.
Listen, people do whatever they want with their names i mean it's you know yeah i think when you i think the wealthier you get the crazier you get with your names andy reed calls the sun 3 p.m 3 p.m because patrick is 2 p.m and then that's 3 p.m yeah do whatever you want with your names. I always thought that naming your kids various types of cheeses

would work out well, too. Yeah.
Colby,

Jack,

Pepper, Monty,

Brie,

Gouda,

Gouda, who could forget baby

Gouda, American, Sharp Cheddar,

American, yeah, yeah, White American,

White American, yeah, White American.

This is my son, White American.

That actually rocks. White American.
White American. Yeah, White American.
White American. This is my son, White American.
That actually rocks. White American.
Actually, I get to name a litter of puppies for Paws. Oh, nice.
Because we won that auction at the Paws Gala. I might just go all cheeses.
We should go all cheeses. Various types of cheeses for the dogs.
Yeah. Let's at least say something nice about the Texans.
I i do think their defense is they won't get rolled over by the chiefs their defense is elite um i'm just nervous about the texans offense because it hasn't been good this year and it's there's a lot of there's a lot of uh data behind them just not being very good and in a game against the chiefs you pretty much have to play perfect to stay in this game. Now they did stay in the game when they played, what was it like four weeks ago? That was the game Tank Dell got hurt.
Did they only lose by seven? I want to say. Yeah.
It looked, it looked close in the first quarter and a half. I want to say.
Yeah. So I don't, but the Texas defense is capable of stepping up their game to a point where they can, they can frustrate really good quarterback.
Correct. We saw that with, with the bills and the chiefs offensive line is not great.
That is another area of weakness. So I do bills and the tech or bills and the, the lines, right? The bills, the lions, the dolphins, the chargers, the Texans defense took those, all those teams and made their, their offense look significantly worse than it is against everyone else.
it's just Patrick Mahomes. That's the thing that I just keep going back to.
Yeah, they lost by eight in the meeting they had a month ago. So I'm not saying the Chiefs are going to be a cakewalk.
I just keep looking at this eight and a half, and I'm like, it feels like a game the Chiefs are going to be up by seven for the majority of the game, and then at the end go on one of those patented late second-half Chiefs drives where they just burn clock, get a bunch of third-down conversions, either kick a field goal or score a touchdown to win by 10 or 14. Yeah.
Do you think there's any additional pressure on Patrick Mahomes now that his brother's biggest source of income has dried up with the TikTok ban? ban like now he now patrick mahomes is the breadwinner in that he's feeding it all jackson mahomes was independently wealthy and now it's like all on his shoulders travis kelsey maybe new heights is not i like memes throwing did you see memes tweet last night just showing some podcast charts what do you say just bragging on our behalf i like that which we don't really I't really brag about it, but it was nice that memes bragged on our behalf. Yeah.
It just showed the rankings, and it was us one, and then we had two out of the top three episodes as well. So that's just memes being a good soldier for us.
Also, all respect to the Kelsey guys. Oh, yeah.
I like both of them a lot. i mean jason kelsey is max's i don't vision board yeah i mean would it be his hall pass maybe i technically i think max goes to sleep every night looking at a picture of jason kelsey like this is this is my goal for tomorrow to do that no i i like both kelsey's i also think that this is gonna be three kelsey's oh yeah kylie yeah uh, Kylie.
Yeah. I do think this is where...
And Mama. And Mama Kelsey.
No one talks about Dad. It's bullshit.
It really is bullshit. I do think this is where Travis Kelsey ramps it up.
Like, I like his overyards. I think this is...
He plays in second gear for the majority of the regular season. And then when you get to these points, the two things that I always look to is Mahomes rushing yards in the playoffs and Travis Kelsey yards.
Because that is when they need a big play, it's Travis Kelsey or Mahomes using his feet. And we've seen it time and time again.
And I think that's exactly what's going to happen on Saturday. I like C.J.
Stroud rushing yards too. I like the last week that hit and you go back to back when he was in college.
Yeah. In that playoff game, everybody's like, oh, shit, CJ can run.
Yeah. He can use his feet.
I think he'll do it again. That might also just be a product of plays breaking down sometimes around him.
And he's not. I think the Chiefs defense is going to do a very, very good job shutting him down.
Yeah. But, yeah, I like the Chiefs.
Now, if the. So I want to.
I don't want to. Because we've obviously put a lot of love on the Chiefs, even though I'm sure there will be some Chiefs fans being like, all you guys do is suck off Josh Allen and, you know, you never mentioned – and Jared Goff, you never mentioned Patrick Mahomes.
Who is the best quarterback in the NFL, even though statistically he wasn't this year. You'd still take him 1-1.
The Texans. Hank, make us a case.
Defense makes a play. Okay.
Control the ball on offense. Joe Mixon, two touchdowns, own time of possession.
Got to get lucky. I mean, that's a good game plan.
Yeah. Can we get a keys to the game for Hank? The cold is, I don't like that.
Isn't it weird that I don't...

This probably just goes all the way back to candy-ass uniforms,

but if you told me it was cold for Miami,

I'd be like, they have zero chance.

For some reason, I'm like,

Texans might still have a little bit of a chance.

Yeah, I don't know about that.

Houston, Dome.

Yeah, I know.

I'm admitting that it's completely based on the candy-ass uniforms. Not really a dome, though.
They open up the roof a lot. At NRG? Yeah.
They do? Yeah, from time to time. So there you go.
If it snows like an inch in Houston, the world shuts down. That's true.
That's a fact. They can't handle it.
What are you going to say, Max? I feel like D'Amico Ryan feels like a cold-weather coach. Yeah, that might be it.
Yeah, it's very opposite Mike McDaniel. Yeah.
It's the bald head, I think. There's something about him feels like he can coach in the cold.
There's a toughness about him. Yes.
Yeah. The Texans are also wearing— Oh, Joe Mixon's the key to the game.
Okay. And they'll get lucky.
Well, yeah, that's just the playoffs, though. And also keep Patrick Mahomes off the field.
Yeah. Yeah.
By Joe Mixon. Scored those.
One and three are basically the same thing. Let me give you another key to the game.
Somehow hope that Carson Wentz's name starting quarterback. Hank, what would you say? Would you say it's a key to the game for the Texans to get sevens instead of threes? Not necessarily.
Oh. Stop giving away all my keys to the game for commanders.
Shit. I've been teasing this all week.
Fumble? You got to have a turnover? That's the luck, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Get lucky, turnover. Pick six? Pick six, kick return touchdown, punt block.
Can we stop? I'm not going to have any more keys left. No, my keys are completely different, but those are valid keys.
Those are huge keys. Yeah, but the Texans are also wearing all-white uniforms, which led to a lot of infighting amongst the Texans fan base, whether or not they should be excited about this.
I found a great interaction underneath the official team tweet about it. From Astros Fade, We've never won a playoff game in all-white.
What are we doing? Texas Uniform Tracker replies, to be fair, we've never won any playoff game in white jerseys, regardless of pants. And then sad Astros posts, to be fair, we've never won any divisional playoff game.
And then Astros fade replies, we've never won a road playoff game in general. So it might not be the white pants.
You drill down a little bit and you find out it might not be the white pants. Yeah.
If this game was at home, we need the Texans next year to somehow get like a two or three seed and wear white pants at home in the divisional round. And then we can kind of parse it out a little bit.
Yeah, exactly where we're going wrong with the uniform.

Okay, let's do the next game.

Commanders at Lions.

Lions are nine and a half point favorites.

Over under is 55 and a half.

PFT, you've been teasing your keys to the game.

So I'll let you take it.

Okay, my keys to the game.

Should I write these down?

Yeah.

Okay, you should.

Hold on.

Number one. By the way, people were asking what I was writing down during our vagina conversation last week on Wednesday.
I was drawing a vagina to see if I could get hard just looking at just a vagina. Big Cat does take notes during episodes.
Yeah. All right.
Here we go. All right.
Keys to the game. Number one.
Fuck them up. Fuck them up.
I love that. We got to beat the fuck out of them.
Now, would you you you can't say four quarters of fuck you football because that's notre dame but would you like them to play four quarters of fuck you football i'd like to play five quarters of fuck you football because you gotta be ready for 110 fuck fuck them up really really fuck everybody up uh number two kill everyone kill everyone especially on defense women and children we put the women and children to bed women and children that's that's key to a okay number three jaden daniels yep i think that one i'm gonna you know what i'm gonna do for that one i'm gonna underline it okay underscore yep and number four the fourth and final key to the game i absolutely need an incredible hype video yep and i'm talking this this has to be the best hype video that i've ever seen yes there's a lot of i might make my own hype video yeah the best one you've ever seen but i'm going i'm going to make what a shot i'm going that That was so mean i'm gonna make the best hype video you've ever seen don't let him talk to that yeah talk to you like that hank hank's a loser don't let him talk to you like that you're not even in the playoffs you don't know shit about hype videos oh i'm gonna make the best hype video i've already got an idea for it as a matter of fact well if he makes a hype video probably the best hype video he's ever made ever made is ever made he's ever made i'm talking the best hype video of all time acdc with like no glitter transitions no no no hater it's gonna be i'll just i think it's gotta be fix you by coldplay oh i think it don't know about that. Oh, yeah.
Wait, is this after they lose and you're remembering them? No. In remembrance? Fix You starts sad.
And then it's like, when you're lost out there. And then you got pictures like Dan Snyder.
You got picture RG3. All right.
I'm following. You got picture the stadium raining shit on fans.
Okay, that works. You try your best, but you don't succeed.
And then it's a picture of the Sean Taylor statue that's not even a statue. It's all the bad stuff.
And then it goes, ding, lights will guide you. And it's Jaden Daniels getting drafted.
Walking out of the tunnel, yeah. It's him getting drafted at that point.
And Ignite, I will try to fix you. I'm following.
And then Jaden's out there. No, this works.
Whipping passes. there Someone make this for PFT He just gave you the vision No I just went back and listened to The song it's more of a Like after you win Like yearbook video It is a little bit of that It's a yearbook video It gets exciting at the end but, but that's when you show the we won the Super Bowl.

Let's go win it.

But for the hype video, it needs to be like...

That's not a fire-me-up song.

You don't know shit about hype videos, dude.

This is my vision.

This is not...

I might swerve in that corner.

Whoa.

No, it needs to be like Iron Maiden and shit.

Run for the hills.

That was my first job here was making hype videos.

Really?

What was your best work? I did them for you. Dugs.
I knew that. I knew that.
I knew that shit. Just let me enjoy my vision.
You do your hype videos your way. Were you texting them to me? No, I would text them to Hank and Hank would text them to me.
Oh, that's the problem. Hank was taking credit for it.
No, I wasn't. Yeah, he was.
No, I wasn't. He was taking all the credit.
Do we have a hype video guy now at Barstool? Quigs. Quigs.
Alistair makes some good ones. We don't talk about him anymore.
I don't want to do business with him. I'll talk to Quigs, and we'll work on it.
But right now, I feel like, just let me follow my vision, which is Coldplay. I think this should be a fan-submitted one now.
Well, you were just taking credit. If Quigs makes it makes it might be good if it makes it will be good i'm gonna make the greatest you don't think i can do it he can direct it yeah direct it's right that's what i was doing with max it's gonna be a pft joint uh that's also not i think you should have i'd send you a song and be like here you go you do that like once that like once every six videos that I made.
That was bullshit. And probably whenever he said that, it was because I said it.
I was like, I want this song. That's probably true.
I was playing a lot of Call of Duty back then. He was just being the middleman.
Pifty, you should just do a fan submitted because now you'll have like 100 hype videos and one of them is going to be absolutely incredible. People are going to make this now, whether you ask them to or not well let me do the Coldplay one and then but I am interested in watching all the hype videos like that to me that is a key for my game is to just you got to have great hype videos going this week because it's us against the world Washington versus everyone that's what they're saying about this game I so my take on this game and this is a compliment I think the Lions are going to fucking kill him, but I can't bet him because of Jaden Daniels.
Because I keep thinking in the back of my head, but what if Jaden Daniels does something crazy? The Lions are better, and they should. The Commanders play a lot of man coverage.
Jared Goff is number one beating man coverage. I think Dave Montgomery is back.
So I keep going back. The Lions can name their score, but then I'm like, but Jaden Daniels and everything that happens and the voodoo stuff, I don't think I can bet the Lions.
So that way I can root for the commanders with you. Yeah, a couple weeks ago I said, if we win our first round playoff game, we're going to be very lucky if the lions don't score 70 points on us yeah like the lions have they've got a great roster they've got all the weapons they've got an incredible offense i was shocked to learn that the commander's rushing offense is actually better than the lions rushing attack oh wow it doesn't feel like that though does it but i guess you got to take into account jayden's legs yeah it's been a big part of that montgomery coming back i'm i'm afraid of Gibbs like I'm I'm I know that Montgomery's a great running back but if you were to say like are you more afraid of a healthy dose of Jameer Gibbs or splitting time with him and David Montgomery coming off a PCL like an injury that people thought was going to be season ending yeah I'm okay with Montgomery and Gibbs splitting carries uh I just think that our our past defense has to step up latimore's healthy i guess i don't know i think there's going to be on defense i think we're going to have a lot of moments where lions receivers are running completely untouched somewhere down the field did you know that our past defense is third is ranked third that doesn't feel right either does it no the commander's past defense i don't know i don't know how that works out but um yeah i i want to believe in the commanders if it becomes if it's a one score game in the fourth quarter that's what i'm saying we win this game yeah i think yeah but then you have to wonder what happens in the first three quarters like but i I mean, think about it.
The Bears went into Detroit and basically beat the Lions on Thanksgiving. Yeah.
They've had games where they look human. The last month or so, they have not.
They've looked incredible. Our offensive line has done a much better job, especially with our center coming back, Piatis.
Sam Cosme is playing really, really well. So I realize I haven't talked about any of those guys.
i've just been focusing on jayden but we've had our our team has stepped up we play we play weird games we will not blow anybody out we'll be lucky to keep it within a score because detroit is so so good but if we can keep it within a score jayden daniels can go out there and win the game yeah and the the buttholes might get tight. Lions buttholes might get tight.

The other thing I would say is Aaron Glenn,

his defenses usually struggle with mobile quarterbacks.

Like Justin Fields used to give them fits,

and he's had that happen multiple times, not just once.

So Jaden Daniels might be able to use his legs significantly on Saturday. What are you looking up, Max? This pass defense thing? For some reason, I've clicked on four different things and said four different websites.
It said four different things. Is it EPA or what did you – is it yards? Passing yards.
I don't know. I saw a couple things and it had us listed as the third best pass defense, and I was very confused by it.
Like, Max, when I said that out loud, it doesn't sound right, does it? I mean, this says third here. I don't know what I'm looking at.
That's yards per game. Yeah.
But then this one, I feel like I'm also looking at yards per – oh, wait, that's postseason. Get it together, Max.
If we're the number three pass defense in the postseason, that's a much different stat, but that's not the case because I think we're like the number 30 rush defense i the the only thing i would say about that is the lions are not like everyone else you played on the schedule yeah correct so that would be well they're just really fucking good yeah and uh but oh well the eagles pass defense is pretty good the eagles pass defense yes and we put some points on them yeah no i was saying the lions offense oh right your past defense versus the lions offense yeah lions offense is is in that level of just i think it's essentially the the bills and the ravens those are the three teams where it does feel like whenever they want to score they're just going to score we're going to see ultimate dans indown. Yeah.
Dan Quinn, Dan Campbell, both going forward on fourth downs all the time. Two alpha dudes.
And it's crazy because the history of these franchises, at least recent history, Tress Way for the Commanders has been a great punter. I went out there.
I bought a punter's jersey. He was the only bright light on the team for a while.
And then jack fox on the lions great punter now neither one

of those guys is being used they were both in weird ways like the best player on each team yeah but yeah there's gonna be a ton of punts or excuse me a ton of going for it on fourth down in this game not a lot of punts uh one thing about the lions defense they are the fourth worst in the NFL at allowing explosive plays.

So explosives, they allow on 12.4% of snaps. They are the fourth worst in the NFL at allowing explosive plays.

So explosives, they allow on 12.4% of snaps. Now, the only counter to that would be they did miss Alex Anzalone for a majority of their season.
He does wear the green dot. So getting everyone in the places they need to be, you saw it against the Vikings.
But yeah, their defense is obviously the weakness. You could make this a shootout.
And I feel like when you make a game a shootout, it really is the randomness of the game. Like if you're a nine-point underdog and you can score like the commanders can score, all you need is like one interception, one weird thing to happen to the Lions, almost like breaking serve in tennis.
Yeah. I'm going into this weekend thinking there's a very good chance that this is the end of the run.
And if it is, what a great run it's been. No regrets.
It's been an incredible season. But I do think that there's a path.
I think that don't write us off. Don't write us off because if it's a one-score game, we can go out there and win the game.
And the top seeds are 11- 7 in playoff games since the uh format changed so it's not like getting the one seed is like automatic you're going to go to the super bowl yeah i think the lines i don't know i just feel i've said all year 40 i've said all year the lines are the best team in the nfc are you going to take the commanders i'm going to take the commander's spread okay and probably the over and just because that's the only only way the commanders win. There's Max.
Left hand up. Left hand up.
Let's go, Max. Love that, Max.
Let's go commies. You're the man, Max.
Let's go commies. I love it, Max.
You've always been on my side. Yep, always.
Let's talk about your game, Max. Rams, Eagles.
Eagles minus six over under 43 and a half. Let's first say, Max, how did the class go so you have you have karma all the way back on your side by the way because we also got a little more into the story of the eagles fan versus the packers fan the eagles or the packers fan and this doesn't excuse calling you know a woman a cunt in the in the crowd but the guy who was who wife was called that, he essentially did a GoFundMe to try to get money to go to the game and was like...
And antagonize. I'm going to antagonize and film it.
So it kind of is one of those situations where everyone's a shithead, except for the woman who just, she's somehow a pawn in all this and was the one who got disrespected. She's like bait.
Yeah, the guy's been taken to the game. The Packers fan sucks too.
But the Packers fan did a GoFundMe probably to get all the way across the country from Wisconsin to Philadelphia to go see this game, right, Max? No, he lived an hour outside of the road. He did a GoFundMe for that? A GoFundMe to go to a car ride.
Oh, my God. So, yeah.
Doing a GoFundMe as just like a normal random dude to go to a football game is insane. Insane.
Especially one down the street. Yeah.
It's kind of the name of the website, though. That was what I, the funniest GoFundMe I saw was a few months ago.
Some guy got busted at a Phish concert for selling. it was something like hundreds of tabs of acid, a shitload of ecstasy, nitrous, and all this stuff.

And he did a GoFundMe for legal stuff.

And people were just coming.

They're like, dude, he was a drug dealer.

He sold those drugs.

I know that we all want to party, but I think the GoFundMe should go to someone, a kid with cancer.

El Chapo does a GoFundMe.

I need to re-up.

Yeah.

But yeah, I think you've been vindicated, especially with your class.

So how'd it go?

Yeah, I took the class.

It was a four-hour class.

I learned some good information, learned a lot about the Lincoln financial field and the security around it.

However, Big Dom heard about me taking this class and was not and was unhappy what'd he say i don't know if he was unhappy he was he was concerned that he was concerned you got kicked out for something yeah no he thought i got he thought i got kicked out of the game oh on sunday and did you explain it to him yep i texted i told him the whole thing and he was like wait how do you find out about this he said i was tweeting about it i at first thought that there was like an an alert that that there was an alert that would like go to his desk or something as soon as somebody took the test which i thought would have been way funnier yeah but someone just like sent him his tweet he was like what happened to you this all right so max you were saying that you were kind of panicking and you weren't sure if you explained it correctly in your text back because you were very nervous about what to write back to Big Dom. So let's just clear the air right now and reset.
This Eagles fan was caught on video last week saying bad stuff. Max, as a great representative of the city of Philadelphia, decided that he was going to get some good karma back, show that Philadelphia Eagles fans are passionate, but they're not all assholes.
So Max took the course that the NFL offers for fans who have been kicked out of the stadium to learn more about empathy and appropriate stadium behavior in order to get all the good vibes back on the city of Philadelphia. Correct.
I was just trying to do my part. Yeah.
Trying to do my part. I do love the idea of Big Dom having a fax machine next to his desk and just every person who has to sign up for it.
All it spit out was just a piece of paper that just said Max in your picture. He's like, what the hell? I know.
That's what I was really. My paisan.
So watch on PMTV, but Max, what did you learn? You know, you always have to put yourself in the the shoes of an opposing fan like if you were going into an opposing stadium how would you want to be treated um curse words are not allowed at any moment so use of foul language disappointing drinking it was a lot of drinking it was a lot about the rules of how much you can drink what your blood alcohol level will look like if you are drinking what can happen if your blood alcohol gets to a certain level stress management that was another one it talked a lot about stress you need that yeah that's big it was it was not only the if things are going poorly in your life you can be stressed out but also if things are going well in your life you can be stressed out so that's another thing that about stress and that can cause people to say things that they that they shouldn't be saying did they give uh like did they do thought exercises where it's like it's third and ten and jalen hurts runs runs to the right and throws it 20 feet out of bounds? Like, what are you thinking? No, they did not do that. Run a simulated game for you? No.
You're down by 17 points and A.J. Brown's reading a book.
What do you say? Yeah. Well, that was a motivational book that keeps him locked in.
Jake Elliott missed his third PAT of the day. That I'm worried about.
I'm so worried about that. I'm worried about that as well.
Andy Swan had a great idea. It was dress MMA fighters as opposing fan bases.
So if you go to Lincoln Financial Field, have an MMA fighter dressed up in all Packers gear and then have somebody get in a fight with them and then those guys get their ass kicked by the MMA fighter.

I like that.

I like that.

So let's talk about the game, Max.

It's got to be a Saquon game.

Jalen Hurts has to get out of the concussion protocol

and your defense has to win this game

because I don't know about your offense.

Assess those.

Disagree. It's going to be cold.
You're just going to pound the rock. Our offense will be good.
I did have that question. How long do you have to live in warm weather before you get soft? Because Matthew Stafford, he played in his only cold game, only game under 40 degrees in the last three years was the game against the Jets a month ago where they won 19-9 and they did not look good.
He obviously played in Detroit, had to play in NFC North, go to Soldier Field, go to Lambeau. Is there an amount of time that you get soft? Yes.
How quickly? Two years. Two summers.
Two summers. Especially the older you get.
The older you get, the joints, they don't do as well in the cold. Yeah, two summers.
your first summer, you get the older you get the joints the they don't they don't do as well in the cold yeah two summers your first summer you're like you know those videos of when they have a monkey and it sees the outdoors for the first time because it's been kept in a lab for its entire life yeah it's been like in the grass and oh shit this is awesome that's your first summer in warm weather you're like this is incredible holy shit you lived in texas i love i just. Yeah.
You know from firsthand experience here. Yeah, yeah.
No, I got real soft. I got real soft over the course of like nine years down there to the point where I moved to New York.
I was like, what the fuck is going on? And now it's the flip where I think tomorrow it's going to be 40 degrees in Chicago. It's like, I might wear shorts.
Yeah. Now I'm hard.
Yeah. I was soft.
Now I'm hard. But I think after your second summer, then you just expect nice weather all the time.
So that will be big. Matthew Stafford, older, doesn't play well in cold weather.
The other thing I like about this matchup, Max, is the Rams are somehow worse than the Eagles in starting games, which is pretty hard to do. But the Rams are 30th in first quarter scoring and 23rd in first half scoring.

So that's, you know, the Eagles have started slow.

They shouldn't have.

Well, I mean, they got a fumble seven seconds of the game.

Yeah, that's the opposite of starting.

I understand, but that fumble doesn't happen.

They have maybe three points at most in the first half.

Great touchdown pass, Jahan Dotson. Great touchdown pass.
It did happen. But your offense looked like shit in the first half.
Did it not? They scored in the first two minutes of the game. Yeah.
It was nothing like that. Mm-hmm.
Defense looked great. I think your defense is going to win this game.
And I also... Vic Fangio against...
It's a small sample size, but he played them this year. The Rams scored 20 points.
And then the famous game in 2018 when the Rams were just ripping through everyone and they came to Soldier Field and Vic Fangio was the DC and they scored six points. I think Vic Fangio is going to have, he's going to dial some shit up.
N'Kobe Dean being out is a worry. That's really my only worry on the defensive side of the ball.
We're going to have Oren Burks, who did not look great. He's the one who had the fumble on the kickoff to start the game.
But defensively, he did not look great last week. And then Jeremiah Trotter Jr.
is rumored to be getting a bunch of snaps this weekend. And he's a rookie and hasn't gotten any playing time.
So that's N'Kobe Dean's like the play caller the you know middle linebacker that is the leader on the team and not having him is going to be worrisome for the defense but i still like i like our guys i think your offensive line will do a great job going up against one of the ram strengths we'll just i i if you were to say rams defensive line probably one of the better units out there but the eagles offensive I think, can neutralize them a little bit. Are you ever nervous on punts? I know you love Cooper DeGene, but are you nervous the way that he fields punts? Yes.
We watch the game together on Sunday. Every single time, I just say, just catch it.
Just catch it. Don't.
Punts are the – returning punts is the scariest play in football for me because I feel it has to be the highest percentage play of turnover. It's very easy to turn the ball over on a punt, and it completely changes the game because it's 60 yards of field position or whatever that number is.
Just hold on to the football, get the ball back to the offense, run the rock, win the game. Play good defense.
Don't turn the ball over.

Run the rock.

Win the game.

Love that.

Peace to the game.

Are you going to go hair down or up?

You won against the Packers with hair down.

No, but I put it up right before halftime because they went into that lull.

Oh, so you got to go up.

So I think maybe start.

I think the first couple drives are going to be down because that can i make a request yep no pigtails overalls nailed it come on yep you have the eagles overalls the people want the eagles overalls everybody's been asking for the eagles you teased them last year and he never wore the overalls've got to wear the overalls for the Eagles. Yeah, but if they lose, think of how bad of a look that will be if they lose.
Exactly. For you, it'll be a good look.
But Philly fans will be so mad at me. So you're just never going to wear these overalls? No, I'll wear them.
No, I don't think that you will. You have to wear them now or never because you're not going to want to win them in the Super Bowl.
Yeah, you got to work them in. You should have worked them in the regular season.
That was a big mistake. Yeah, I know.
I should have. But there was so many times I thought about it during the regular season, and I was like, well, what if they lose? Then it's a bad look.
Here's what you should do. You should wear the overalls and maybe wear a hoodie over it for the first half.
I don't hate that. Yeah.
I don't hate that. Work it in slowly.
Work it in. Yeah.
Okay. I like that.
Feel it out. I like that.
If things are going well, you go overalls. Then you have the overalls for the NFC Championship.
If Philly fans listening to this are mad at me and I get an overwhelming response of do not wear the overalls, I can't wear the overalls. No, I think you wear them, put the hoodie on over, and if it's going good, then you can demonstrate.
And then if it's going poorly, you can also take the hoodie off to switch up the juju. It gives you multiplicity.
You want multiplicity in your attack. I like it.
Complimentary overalls. Yeah.
Okay. The last game, best game, Ravens and Bills.
Bills are underdogs. They're one and a half point underdogs.
The over-under is 51 and a half. I'm so excited for this game.
I've been trying. I think everyone knows that we're, I think everyone in this room is, wants the Bills to win because it'd be awesome if they went to the Super Bowl.
I think the Ravens are probably the better team overall. So I've been trying to make a case for it in my head that the Bills can win this game.
Here's my case. The Bills defense in the first matchup was not – they didn't have guys.
They didn't have Milano, Johnson, who I think is in concussion protocol right now, and Bernard. All those guys should help with the run the run.
Zay Flowers looks like he's not going to play. And the last thing is the Ravens' defense has been incredible in the last half of the season, right? I did look back, and in the last five games, this is DVOA, who they played.
They played the Browns, who the 32nd 32nd defense or sorry uh offense the Texans are the 26th the Steelers the 19th the Giants the 28th and the Eagles the 13th their only loss the Bills are obviously a top five offense and so maybe there's a little inflation in numbers I don't fully believe everything I'm saying I was make the case. Okay, here's another bit of data point for you.
I'm all over the weather this weekend. Eight degrees in Buffalo, in Orchard Park.
The coldest game that Lamar Jackson's ever played. Guess what it was? 35.
27. Oh.
So kind of cold. But this is eight degrees.
It's very different. And he said he wasn't going gloves.

Also, Lamar, in their earlier matchup this season, the temperature was like 60, and he

was wearing a hoodie and a beanie for it.

Yeah.

I don't know that Lamar loves the cold.

Broward County.

Broward County.

I think that it is a very different team that the Buffalo Bills have right now.

Home field advantage is going to make a huge difference.

I have no idea who's going to win the game. Absolutely no idea.
I've been trying to figure it out too. I think I'm going to bet the over.
I'm going to bet for football. I'm going to root for good football.
No idea who's going to win this game. I don't know if they can stop Derrick Henry.
The Ravens are a much more complete team. The Bills have Josh Allen as an All-Pro, nobody else as an All-Pro.
But that said, I don't know. I feel like the Bills are playing their best football right now.
I just want both quarterbacks to play out of their mind and have one of those classic games where it just comes down to whoever has the ball last. I'm so excited for this game.
Hank, you think the Ravens are going to kill him? No. Oh.
I think the Bills can win. I want the Bills to win.
Yeah, but I do think the Ravens, in totality, are the better team. And Lamar's been out of his mind.
Lamar's probably going to win another MVP. Might be his best season ever.
He's an incredible, incredible quarterback. And last week in a playoff game was awesome.
Yeah, I'm rooting for the Bills, but this is going to be a tough game. I was shocked to find out that Jim Nance.
I think the weather matters more in the playoffs. People give it credit for it, to BST's point.
Yeah. And Josh Allen.
He loves that cold. Yeah.
So Jim Nance is, quote, stoked for this game. Oh, shit.
I never thought that Jim Nance was capable of being stoked. Did he say that with a Stussy shirt on? He said it twice.
He said, I am stoked for this matchup. That is the Cali in him.
It is. How old are Jim Nance's kids? That's definitely.
He just found out. His kid is like 12.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. And he lives in Cali.
Tony. No, I think he does have.
I think he remarried and has a younger kid, and he's probably a Cali teen. Tony, I'm stoked.
No cap. Bruh.
Imagine if he dropped a bruh. Lamar has an incredible run.
He's like, bruh. Bruh.
He did not just do that, fam. And Lamar Jackson, bruh.
He's different. He's different, Tony.
You just don't know how to spell Jim Nance's name, Max? Daughter 2014 son born in 2016 okay so he's got a 10 year old and a nine year old he probably that's getting there i mean nine nine is a nine-year-old maybe skating yeah he's getting those words stoked yeah tony you know he's famous for calling plays before they happened last week he called that they were going to get this game. At the end of the last game.
He's like, can't wait to be up in Buffalo next week. And I don't know if the network executives got bullied into making that the Nance.
No, it was always going to be Jim Nance and Tony Romo for this game. Always.
What are you going to say? I don't know if kids still say stoked. Oh, they don't? That seems like kind of...
I don't know what they do in California, so maybe... I would assume that Stoked is probably out of...
Oh. Vernacular? I'm not saying that I'm in vernacular.
Yeah, not in Cali. I was assuming...
Cali, they say Stoked. I was assuming that Stoked was big in, like, the 90s, maybe early 2000s.
That's what I'm thinking. Then it went out, and I was assuming just started to come back i think cali i think cali is just part of the language definitely some cali awls hit us up do you still say stoked because i feel like they still say hella too hella this twitter account that is just covers the world of ski lifts said so stoked to be adding norway mount that sounds like a universal.
I could also see Jim Nance being big time into skiing. Yeah.
He probably spends a month in Aspen each off season. Stoked.
Okay. I'm so excited for this game.
After the game, a tribute to our darling Jake Marsh. I predict sportsmanship of the year.
I predict the handshake between Lamar and Josh is going to include some form of now go out there and win the big one. Win it all.
Go take care of it. Go beat the bad man.
Go beat the bad man. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
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So excited.

So excited for this.

Bill's Ravens.

I'm just going to soak in it.

Lay down in it.

Yeah.

We need an upset Saturday.

Okay.

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For your bets.

All right.

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And now here's Chris Long. Okay, we now welcome on our very very very good friend it is two-time super bowl champion chris long you can see him on his podcast which is incredible anyone who loves ball should be watching listening to the green light with chris long he's also doing a bunch of media inside the nfl he's everywhere he It is Chris Long.
Chris, we wanted to do what we've been trying to get you on for a couple weeks. It was my fault on a lot of the scheduling.
No. That was kind of my fault, too.
I was like, oh, I have a procedure. I'm going under.
Yeah. Then I showed up to the doctor's office.
They're like, no, it's just a consultation. Yeah, and you didn't eat for an entire day before? Yeah, over here but it's good to see y'all yes great first guest in part of my take history right yeah i know i was gonna point that out but i don't want to my own whore that's that's a big deal we're so bad why did you ever come back uh because um you guys became really popular yeah that's that's a good-year anniversary coming up.
I feel like you came on part of my take, and we were so bad that you were like, I have to start a podcast because these fucking assholes are doing one. I'm way better.
Dude, I just remember it was so fun because we got my dad on. I was doing it on my phone, I think, or maybe my laptop.
It was like 2000 and what? What year was that? Yeah. So we were in the dark ages of technology but i was doing in my living room my dad came to the door mid-interview and i i got howie on the pod and i was like hey it's the guys from pardon my take and he was like oh cool it's a podcast that doesn't exist yet awesome yeah you're gonna be sorry and now he's been on your show yeah and now full circle um yeah all, so let's talk some ball because you know the NFL better than anyone.

You know playoff football better than anyone.

I want to go through every game, and we already taped our preview,

the Texans versus the Chiefs, and I have to say we didn't really give a path

for the Texans.

So I don't know if you see this game differently,

but we didn't give a full path for the Texans to win this game.

We just kind of were like Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes, and this is what he does, especially in the divisional round. I hope it's not a blowout as a fan because if it is, you're going to be like, damn, we're going to have maybe, maybe, sorry PFT, maybe two blowouts Saturday.
I don't know. I'm hoping that both of them are close.
Yes. Honestly, but here's the path.
The path is now they've got Aziz Alshair back, who is legitimately a leader for them and patrolling the middle of the field next to nobody as fast as him at the linebacker position. You also get Christian Harris.
They played together for the first time, I think, all year last week. So two really good players in the middle.
I like the corners. The corners played really well.
And also for the Chiefs in that game, they just got Hollywood Brown back, right? And to me, that gave them a new look that maybe Houston wasn't ready for. So not saying it's going to be close, but the path is if they can take care of the Mahomes scrambles, which they didn't in that first game, that killed them.
They can keep it closer. They had a chance in that game.
You remember when they got the ball at midfield after Tank Dell got hurt? Yep. And they were all just like, they were crushed.
You know, that really, some injuries you can kind of move on from. I felt like that one kind of killed them.
But they got the ball at midfield with a chance after stopping Kansas City on fourth down to take the lead, I believe. And they weren't ready for the moment.
They botched the screen. Schultz drops an out.
And you're like, you know what? This Kansas City team's been here in this game a thousand times. Houston has not.
And I think that was really apparent watching in the first game. We'll see if they got better.
Yeah, we always make the case because, you know, people will say, oh, Kansas City's lucky. And, you know, they get the flags and all that stuff.
They don't, though. We'll see if they got better.
Yeah, we always make the case because people will say, oh, Kansas City's lucky and they get the flags and all that stuff. They don't though.
Yeah, we've always been on the side of it's not luck. It's the fact that they've been in all these situations and if you make a single mistake, they will pounce on it.
And that's the difference between a championship team and a team that's just a playoff team. That's right.
And I when you watch like kent city's offense and it might be different now they start to open things up a little bit more i think part of that is having joe at tackle joe tooney who makes a big difference like that left tackle spot was a revolving door they couldn't figure it out at some point they said hey we'll put a guard out here who's pretty good he's an all pro at guard but we'll put him out here because we're going to prioritize our best player being able to operate. And so I think what they were doing to that point was let's get into third and manageable, which they're so good at.
If they're in third and three or third and four, you feel like you can't get off the field. And so I think that's the key to the game.
If I'm Houston, you kind of say, fuck it. Let's be aggressive early downs.

Get them behind the sticks a little bit.

If they burn us, they burn us.

But we'll see.

I think the slow start is another little hopeful nugget for them.

The fact that the Chiefs haven't played and it feels like a month.

And if you remember the last team to jump them in divisional round off a bye

was Houston. It's a totally different team now.
But you remember that game, coincidentally, on the way to New Orleans, that trip we were just talking about. Yeah, that's 24-0 in the second quarter.
I watched her on the plane on the way to New Orleans. And then it was like immediately over after that moment.
So as a defensive end, you were talking about like keeping them in the pocket, limiting the scrambling stuff. Has there ever been a game plan that you've had going into a game where you're like, okay, we've got a great idea of how we need to limit this quarterback, and you get really detailed with your preparation, and then you get in the game, and it absolutely does not work? Yeah, like any time we ever played a running quarterback.
The coaches, I mean, and now it's more the norm guys if you can't move you're you're there there's not many like you and so I think more guys are like Jay not many like Jayden Daniels but we're third and short you know some element of quarterback run is a threat and I think with Mahomes it's very it's very unique because he drifts if you watch him and it makes playing offensive line for him a little bit difficult. It's like best job in the world, but he might be at nine yards.
He might be at 11. He might be at 12.
He's going to step up. So rushing him is not as simple as like, you know, staying down the middle and power rushing a tackle, which can piss the defensive end off when all week you hear, we got to cage this guy, right basically like we got to keep him in the pocket that kind of takes your fastball away and a lot of times at the end of those games anyways you get your throat ripped out by you know some quarterback that you gave him too long to throw the ball and then the dc is yelling at you like why didn't you rush him uh-huh you know so it's frustrating and then you'll play guys who do the read option.
You see, like Lamar, you'd have coaches that would say, hey, just blow up the mesh. Get both of them.
Yeah, just tackle two guys. Physically impossible.
Yeah. So, you know, like just having a running quarterback, you allot so much time during the week to things that might not even happen, to scenarios that might not come up,

and that can take you away from doing the meat and potatoes.

Makes sense.

So you sound like you're on the Texans too.

Well, inevitably, I'm not going to bet it like a nine-point favorite.

That's not fun.

Right.

You know what I mean?

I'll probably end up doing something stupid like a teaser

or some dumb shit like that. That's actually not a bad tease.
You would tease them down to a point, point and a half? You could tease Kansas City down. Yeah.
Then that means you probably got to find a dance partner, and that's probably Detroit. But Vegas knows a lot of teasers Saturday are going to be just that.
Yeah, that's going to be everyone's. Somebody's going to keep it close Saturday.
And I don't know. It could be this team.
I don't know. It could be your guys.
Yeah. So let's talk about that game.
I gave my keys to the game already. You probably know a little bit better.
You're going to get a little more granular than I did. My keys to the game were basically just kill everybody.
You said fuck them up. Yeah, fuck them up, kill everybody, and then Jaden Daniels.
To beat the Detroit Lions, you have to be the Detroit Lions. Right.
So you got to go for it every fourth down yeah right which you guys are very good at I mean like you were 87 percent the other night before you got stopped so it's probably down like 85 but um on the season I think the key to this game is y'all got to get stops in the red zone like Detroit's going to move the ball can you can you get them to be like or five in the red zone it or or you know like there was a game last year versus vegas where they totally shit the bed in the red zone like can you recreate that that issue uh for them i don't know that you can um it's just going to come down to being aggressive and if aaron glenn wants to play so much man i actually have a lot of faith in Jaden. You know, you're probably going to have to a lot of spy, right?

And you can't take Anzalone out of coverage.

He's too good.

You know, is it Jack Campbell?

Is it somebody else?

Like, I don't know.

But Jaden Daniels with his legs.

I kind of feel like we're just building a path for the underdogs here.

Yeah.

The path for Detroit is bludgeoning them.

Yeah.

You know, like David Montgomery, he's on track to play yeah crazy it's like nuts like this team is so tough everything they've been dealt this year they've just dealt with it i mean and and uh and dan campbell you guys i i know you guys love him but as a football player the longer he coaches this team more I'm impressed with him. I mean, they really have not flinched all year long.

I got a question about the Detroit defense,

and you can explain this a lot better.

We know that the green dot is important.

Alex Anzalone comes back week 18.

He puts the green dot back on.

Explain it to us why it's so important

and how much it can change if you lose the guy who is your defensive captain getting everyone in the right spot. Well, look, you get home field advantage.
That's a big deal, right? It's a big deal for a lot of reasons, but it's really loud in a playoff game at home. And you talk about communication.
I remember being in St. Louis, and we never played in the playoffs, but there were 100 instances of me screaming at james laranitis like what the fuck is the call am i stemming like what's happening here like there he's like a he's like a service agent on the phone like a bunch of people are calling him at the same time like whether it's me the other d tackle somebody needs a call in the secondary we need to we need to figure out what that call was tagged with.
There's just a ton of communication issues.

But then not only that, he's a great cover guy.

Right.

And in the NFL now, we kind of went through this thing

where backers, not important.

Coincidentally, running back's not important.

They're important again.

But backers are really important.

You play, and we're not talking about the commander so much,

but any of these souped-up West Coast offenses, you've got to have guys in the middle that are rangy and that can cover I mean like the Eagles we're going to talk about them in a second they lose N'Kobe Dean in a game where you know Matt Stafford is going to be trying to chunk the intermediate intermediate part of the field all day long and you see it like when they played Minnesota Minnesota minnesota gives up a lot of chunks in the middle um having a dominant backer in the middle of field like imagine if you have like i'm not comparing anzalone but to illustrate the importance of the position fred warner changes the entire game right you know and i think like for the bills when we get to that game one thing we'll talk about is they were down three backers yep in that first game so it matters not just having the green dot but having good players in the middle field yeah i think any chance the lions break out the todd bulls defense the uh double quarterback spy where todd did that at one point i've never seen that before i don't know i don't know why i it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense it didn't work i don't know why todd bulls did a lot of things he did down the stretch like i was really disappointed in that bucks team like i kind of you know when you when you pick a team to win the division you kind of get married to them and you fall in love with them and you justify all their mistakes and you're like well that wasn't that bad with what they did in dallas with the season on the line like they're better than that but in the biggest game they kind of pissed down their leg with procedural stuff and um the point I want to make is the commanders they've won a lot of close games this this year including that game I mean what when they beat Chicago Stevenson was being an idiot when they beat Atlanta there was bad clock management by Raheem Morris. And then last week, the Bucs with the third and inches

with the third and inches with the jet sweep that they drop on the ground like there's a lot of teams that have been fucking it up not taking anything away from the commanders in close games Detroit doesn't do that like they're as well coached on both sides of the ball as any team in the league do you are you worried when you when you talk about the? Obviously, I assume that Dan Campbell's going to keep coaching the way he's coached and anything fourth and four or less he's going to go for. Are you in the mindset? Because I've seen people be like, oh, I can't wait until Dan Campbell fucks this up again in the playoffs.
I've been a big believer in like, dude, he knows what he's doing and it's also not a secret to his team. I think when we're sitting on our couch, we is he doing it's gonna be so deflating those guys in the huddle they know like what he's going to do so they're prepared for it if they don't get it dude I think I think it's twofold like number one the schematic part of it which is like the plays they're calling on fourth down are working even when they don't execute it the plays were there last year in those big moments against San Francisco.
It's like Shane Steichen last year with the division on the line, giving the ball to Gardner Minshew and throwing the ball in the flat. Right.
And everybody's second guess is the call, but it's the execution of the call. So the right calls are being made.
And I think also you listen to his players. After that game, their faith in his way of doing things was unwavering and so like that's a big part of it and i i liken it to like if you have a a dad who walks around beating guys up and like if he turns down a fight you're like dad wait that's not who you are right i feel like every time dan stares a fourth down in the eyes like it's like a game of chicken, and all his kids are watching.
And if he turns it down, they all look at him like, what the fuck was that about? Yeah, and this game is like literally my Dan could beat up your Dan. Yeah.
My Dan could beat up your Dan. Yeah, and from a defensive perspective, I know people will say, oh, the defense must be deflated when they don't get the fourth down.
I feel like the defense knows what the offense is going to do. It's complimentary that they know you're going to probably steal a couple and you might have a couple where you get put in a bad field position.
That's what it comes down to for me. When you play Detroit and being on a defense knowing, it's a lot of the reason I think Greg Olson has spoken to this like decisions to force a team to drive the length of the field or have to kick a field goal at the end of the game like what you do offensively dictates the tone of the next possession the tone of a possession where an offense has four downs is uneasy for a defense right you know like everything you do is different and I think you're always in that mode playing them and it can create a lot of discomfort.
That's why I think like early down pressure, you know, like when they play Buffalo, the reason Buffalo won that game is because they got them off the field like twice in the first half. And if you're to believe that the commanders are going to beat man coverage and run up some points, then all you have to do in this scenario to keep it close is get them off the field once or twice.
The way you do that, in my opinion, is time up a blitz when they're going to play action and get Jared when he turns his back and try to cook something up on second down, get them in third and 12, get them in second and 13, something like that. And then you got a shot.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, it's gonna be a very tough battle. The Lions are obviously a great team.
I think Dan Campbell has done a great job playing into the whole macho man Dan thing, and he throws a lot of red meat out to the press a lot. He's like, yeah, I do push-ups in the shower.
That's where I work out. Is that what he said? Yeah, he said he gets his workouts in when he's in the shower.
He says he'll bite a kneecap off. We're going to drag you down.
We're going to drown you. I heard that.
I'm more concerned with walking into the shower, trying to get a shower if I'm the O-line coach. I think.
And Dan's doing naked push-ups in the shower. I think he means at home that he works.
Not in the communal shower. But again, I don't necessarily buy into everything that he says like that because I think he does a very good job of playing this persona and then hoping people underestimate him.
Oh, I'm warm. And he's a super smart guy because if you look at how aggressive he is,

he actually just goes for it when you're supposed to go for it based on math.

So he knows those numbers.

He's the guy that what you see is what you get,

but there's also a totally different element to him,

as you just talked about.

Think of who he learned from.

Sean Payton is one of the most aggressive guys in the NFL, like faking a punt last week, stuff like that, the Super Bowl, the onside kick. So he's got that like Sean Payton edge to him.
And he's also got the intellect that comes with – Sean Payton's one of the greatest coaches to ever coach in my opinion. And he's so ball smart.
He got all those situationalational nuggets from him and then he puts his very physical like caveman edge on it and you kind of i like the team to a ferrari with mud tires like they're they can do they can do anything go four-wheel drive they can go 200 miles an hour and that's what the ben johnson element gives them the offensive line's awesome everything they do looks the same it's all in sync uh they're incredible yeah but they could lose two coordinators yeah yeah good point they could lose two coordinators all right so uh sunday what's wrong with jalen hurts what's wrong with the eagles offense well in this scenario i thought it was a game plan i thought the passing concepts look like last year and And any Eagles fans know what I'm talking about. Is it like spacing, very vanilla, not enough quick game.
But I also think the game kind of played out in a way where they knew when they jumped on that football and turned it into six in the first five minutes of the game, Jordan Love can't hang. He might be dinged.
Our defense is, I mean, they're physical. They're really good.
And I think they just kind of played the game out in a way that suited that, to be honest, very shitty game plan. Right.
Now, they're not going to be so lucky this week if they do that. In my notes here, I got written down McVay's script versus Philly's slow starts.
Yeah that is it. You know, like to me, how do you start this game? And I think if you look at the second half, especially that first game, Brandon Fisk is like two 90.
He's a great player. Love him.
Um, Turner, great player. Love him.
Two 97. The ends, they're really good rushers.
I don't know if they can set an edge for 60 minutes. And, you know, we saw that last game with the interior, that, that defensive line, Landon Dickerson, Juergens.
Juergens is fucking huge, man. You know, he's standing next to the other guys.
I was just there last week. He's standing next to the other guys.
He looks small, but he's like a WWE wrestler. Like's got that kind of build.
The guards are big, powerful. The tackles are big and powerful.
I would just lean on these guys. That's it.
The concerns I have is with N'Kobe Dean down, as I alluded to, Stafford in the middle of the field, if he's got time, I think there could be some uncomfortable moments in pass defense. Where's your heart at in this game chris this is the chris longbowl yeah it is the rams eagles my heart's with the my heart's with the eagles man it's super weird because you know playing there the last two years of my career when st louis cut me after eight years and moved it felt to me like all right well i am a ram and i do feel a lot of pride when i watch like jared verse play or nico you're not in a cubby d i'm all over the place or byron young or the two interior guys i just talked about i take pride in like oh there's another group in horns like rd line back in the day like there is a sense of pride there and i still talk to people in that organization i have no bad blood but when the team moves across the country, it doesn't feel like home as much.
You don't get out there. And then obviously being a St.
Louis Ram, I'm always real cognizant of like, they have Superbowl parties without the game on. That's how much they hate Stan Kroenke and the LA Rams and the concept of it.
And for me, I don't, I don't have that same vitriol, but, um, I was go out last week and be legend of the game. And, of course, the game gets moved, forest fires, the whole thing.
So that got rain checked, and then I ended up in Philly. When I go to Philly, man, it just feels like home.
It's like the most recent thing I did. And that city, like what we did there, excuse me for really enjoying being there.
Yeah, it makes sense. It makes perfect sense.
You walk around that stadium, Bo told a story on our pod this week where like it's legit. Like the people in the yellow jackets are like, wherever you want to go.
I don't know if they want to hear that. Like Dom's like, where do you want to go? Come on, Bo.
He walked me in the locker room. Supposedly Bo was in there before the game, sat Bo down in the coach's locker room, gave him a cannolioli he has like a stack of cannolis in his locker big dom does that's so awesome oh and and and he just pulled out a cannoli he's like hey just you and kelsey just take a seat wait chris will be down here soon so i just the feeling you get when you go back it's hard for me to say my heart's with anybody but the eagles but i think it's gonna be a great game and i think matt staffer is one of the best quarterbacks left in the damn playoffs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Future Hall of Fame.
He looked good last week. He looked kind of shaky in December, but what we saw last week, like my concerns with Matt Stafford, I think they're gone.
Yeah, I agree. I mean, him playing outside, that's kind of a different story.
But, yeah, he looked so good last week that now I'm like, yeah, the Rams could do it. They're scary, man.
This is the one matchup for them. If they can win this game, look out.
Because the one matchup I worried about for them was versus this offensive line in Saquon. Yeah.
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How much does – we were talking about it when we were doing our preview that we don't probably take into account cold weather enough when it comes to these playoff games how much does it really suck and who does it suck most for the fast guys really I think um you know I like we got more meat on our bones and for me as a guy who was like quick athletic but not fast I always felt like when it got cold if I could just run the same speed yeah and i was as fast as the other guys and um i just think playoff football is better in the cold like i'm one of these outdoor freaks i agree like you know i'm watching the miami dolphins play and you know it's complicated for me anyways in kansas city last year and everybody's like it's in inhumane. Like people are getting frostbite.

They lost people lost limbs.

I'm like,

Hey,

that was incredible.

Yeah.

It's just,

there's something about it.

And yeah,

I'm a little twisted.

I played football,

but where you see people have to adapt to like totally unnatural shit and how

they respond,

like,

you know,

and,

and in some ways the best team doesn't always win in that circumstance, but that's what it's about. And football is like reacting to whatever's on the plate that day.
And, um, I think it's cool as hell to like turn on TV in January and see smoke coming out of people, people's helmets and shit, you know, um, to, to see quarterbacks wearing gloves. And like, I do think it affects the, the fast guys more.
I think the, I think the big guys like it. And then we always have our conversations about, like, do you wear sleeves? Do you not wear sleeves? That sort of thing.
Yeah. So is Derek Henry a big guy or is he a fast guy? I think he's both.
Yeah, that's a problem. Unfortunately, he's both.
I was just looking at Brian Baldinger's social about, you know, them running Wildcat. And it was, like, all 22 end zone, and it was from Pittsburgh's side.
So he's the furthest guy from the camera, but he's dwarfing Patrick Queen and Landon Roberts. He looks so unnaturally damn big, and he doesn't slow down, man.
And so, yeah, they got to have 11 hats to the ball this weekend. Yeah.
The Bills line linebackers you talk about it's a big difference from the first time they played how do they slow down derrick henry you you have you have to commit to i mean it's like listen i understand last week i think part of running lamar is to put something on tape where you're saying early in that game hey we're not always going to give. He's going to pull this ball.
And that happened at the cost of 8, 10 quarterback runs in the first half. I would force them to pull the ball in the option when all things are considered.
It's 50-50. There are times where I saw Pittsburgh and their linebackers up on the line.
It's really hard to have the quarterback, especially Lamar, from a place on the field like that. You've got to be really careful about where you have your second-level defenders popping off to handle the option on the pole.
I would be crashing on Derrick Henry and forcing the key to the entire game to run the ball 15 times. The attrition of that, you never know.
And so I would force Lamar to run the football. I think, obviously, you're going to have to play some base, but you feel a lot better about it.
It wasn't just Milano. They were down Bernard.
They were down Taron Johnson, who's a really important box player. He's a little guy, but he'll play big.
And so, you know, when you, when you run out Specter, Dorian Williams and Morrow, I think it was to play linebacker against the Baltimore Ravens. And the first play of the game is a trap for 87 yards.
That changes everything, the mood of the game, the tone of the game, how you call the game. It was like Baltimore got whatever they wanted after that.
And a lot of it is because they just play the numbers game. you're going to stack the box they're going to play the numbers game outside i think munkin's done a great job with the rpos with screens jet motion so it's not just a slug fest like you also have to tackle on the perimeter but if zay's down and orlovsky pointed this out on espn good guy knows ball love Dan.
Yeah. Okay.
But he pointed this out with Zay Flowers down, not only can you play more man, but the run fits are better off for that. So I think this team's changed a lot.
And for Baltimore fans, I'll say this, this is the best team in the playoffs coming in. Yeah.
And they played fantastic down the stretch. They've changed a lot too.
You know hamilton moving to safety putting washington in safety putting the fire out at safety was huge i think your guy eddie jackson was there at some point this year yeah and in one of those games it was like man the safety play was bad so they improved that um i think another thing is um you know that game was one of those games for buffalo where it became apparent they got to go get an outside guy to pair with coleman and so they get out and they get cooper they don't really have a number one i think their number one is is shakir agreed i think he's the most important guy and he left that game in the second quarter i believe it was um so he didn get a full day's work. I'm not making excuses for the bills, but I think even Harbaugh said it.
Like, you can throw that first matchup out the window. And usually you can.
I remember 2018, we're defending the Super Bowl. We played.
We started 4-6. And we played down in New Orleans.
They beat us like rented mules. It was like 47, seven.
And Peyton didn't let off the gas pedal, fucking ran the score up. And we play him a second time.
It's a low scoring ball game. And we're a couple big mistakes away from winning that game and going back to the NFC championship.
So things change a lot in three months. Yeah.
Yeah. So, and I also think Sean McDermott's great defensive coach.
Like, I think he will figure out something, a wr in three months. Yeah.
And I also think Sean McDermott is a great defensive coach. I think he will figure out a wrinkle to throw at the Ravens.
When you are talking about a wrinkle, so to speak, let's even go back week 18, the Vikings and the Lions, it felt like the Lions had something they hadn't shown before and they did a great job with Sam Darnold. How long, when you go in with a game plan, you're like, we're going to throw something at them that they haven't seen.
How long does it usually last where it's like, you know, until it's like, all right, now they're going to be able to adjust. Well, if it's one thing, it can be fixed pretty quickly on the sideline, on tablets.
And usually that was above my pay grade when I was a player. You know, they were usually arguing about it in the linebacker circle or whatever it's like this motion means this or hey they're trying to out leverage us doing this and you make one adjustment but I think a lot of times it can really that counterpunch can knock you off your feet for the entire game yeah the halftime I felt like I felt like Detroit you brought that up and the Rams took that same game plan plan to play Minnesota.
And I think when you watch Minnesota, for instance, they knew that the longer in the down you go, the more dangerous Minnesota is. Your zones expand.
They find creases. But they also know that as good as Darnold has been statistically against the Blitz, this offensive line was in bad shape.
And so I think you come into the game and you're worried about protection, but you don't think they're going to blitz that much. And I think then you go play L.A., and it's in the back of your head.
And this is what makes what happened to Minnesota so it wasn't going to change. They knew coming to that game the same thing could happen.
And they didn't call their best game, but it still happened. Right.
happened right and so sometimes it's just like hey we got you where we want you and we're going to find out early in the game if you can block the edges like the other night there was a sack on sam in the first quarter where it was like a sandwich yeah and both of those ends just fucking ran through the tackles that's like a code red thing right and sometimes you don't know how brian o'neill's anchor is going to hold up you don't know how the left tackles anchor is going to hold up you should have from the first matchup but yeah it can really knock you off your feet that's that's my favorite one of my favorite parts about football is like a sean mcdermott can throw a wrinkle in there you can even steal one possession kind of going back to like your you know the commander's lions game you can get them off the field and a half that could be the difference if if you're if especially in this game where it's josh and lamar who could score every possession if they if you know if they're playing well i think it could be a a lower scoring game i don't know like you know i think for buffalo the key is going to be being able to run the football obviously and i think they've done a great job both these teams you kind of get lost in the shuffle talking about Baltimore who does a great job obviously but Buffalo and shout out to their offensive line coach Aaron Cromer and that whole group like they've done a great job and they were in a lot of gap scheme last week and just kicked it if you didn't watch the Denver game, and most of us did,

and I was drunk and tailgating watching, but then when I went back,

I was like, holy shit.

And this is an example like, oh, early and often in the game,

Vance Joseph probably had to contend with, oh, we can't stop the run.

Which puts you in a bind, and I think for Buffalo,

what makes them good is I alluded to them not having a number one.

They really do, and that's why people were doubting Josh at the beginning of the season. He's got a lot of good options, whether it's the tight end, whether it's Shakir, whether it's Coleman, and they're all different.
And now you've got Cooper. And another thing is the backs out of the backfield.
The backs out of the backfield can be a problem in this game, so I would look for that. Yeah, shout out Aaron Cromer, punch the punched a kid yeah it's interesting because he doesn't like have a true number one but i i look at it like he just doesn't have a receiver where everybody is asking why isn't this guy getting enough targets right so which is nice it's good he's got really good options like coleman's been pretty good as a rookie and shakir the more i watch shakir i'm like yeah this guy is a legitimate star.
He's awesome. He's awesome.
He is awesome. And, you know, when you look at the Ravens, Hamilton is the guy you got to know where he is.
And it's easier now with them moving him to safety primarily. You know where he's going to be.
I think this is a game where you could get after Brandon Stevens. Yeah.
Not to call somebody out, but, like, if you're playing the Ravens, you take take your chances outside whereas last week with the corners they have they were like hey it's gonna be run game we're worth the middle of the field and that's what josh did this week is about outside the numbers yeah so if you're looking at all the coaches still remaining and we're just talking about like during the game x's and o's during the game and being a tactician in between the white lines what's who is the best coach? Well, I've got to give my respect to Andy Reid, number one, right? And part of that is the extension of who you have as your coordinator. He's got Steve Spagnuolo, who is a total stud and has turned down opportunities to go back and interview as a head coach before.
So I put Andy Reid, number one. And then number two, I think Sean McVay is a wizard.
I really do. I think Sean McVay is one of the best coaches of our generation.
I think he's that good. And I got to put Dan up there because of his coordinators and his cutting-edge kind of decision-making in-game.
Dan Quinn, yeah, I agree. You know, and then I'm not going to ignore my boy Sirianni.
You know, I know that I know that there's a hook here and I got the Eagles hat on, but you're asking about tacticians and he doesn't call plays. But I just want to point this out.
Like, you know, the record is the record. And I think anytime you listen to players talking about his way of communicating, motivating, having a team ready to play, he's had some bumps in the road.
But he's also like our age, dude. Not to say McVay's not young, but I think he can grow.
And he's grown even in this year alone, I think. And hiring Vic Fangio was fantastic.
I mean, Vic has been like – if you had to take a coaching job tomorrow, like one of us did, we would probably hire a former head coach to be on the staff somewhere. Right.
And I think Vic adds a lot in this game and on defense side of the ball. So I just think it's Reed, McVay, in that order.
And then you've got a lot of guys that don't call plays. Harbaugh doesn't call plays sirianni doesn't call plays um dan quinn's a defensive guy um you know it's it's fun to see that defensive guys are back in in the nfl and like culture guys too and they're showing up this deep in the season yeah yeah it is um i had a question about coaching because we have the coaching hiring and firing going on right.
When you went through a few different coaches with the Rams,

what is it like when you're sitting there waiting for the new coach? What are you hoping for?

And what happens when that new coach gets hired

and how quickly they can maybe change the culture or maybe they don't?

Well, there's two things.

Number one, you want, and this isn't the most important thing, number one thing is winning, right? But number two thing is like, what kind of scheme do they run? You know, who's going to be the coordinator? How am I getting along with my new D-line coach? Is the scheme going to be prohibitive of me like taking that jump? Like when I was a young player and watching Spags getting hired, I was really excited. But we weren't good enough to turn that thing around um and the thing i didn't think about was like what kind of defense does he run like that's what i should have been thinking about and that was different like i had to play in a six technique and you know like the defense was a little bit different than what i played in the year before and then when fish came you know i'm like okay i'm back in a wide nine um this is a lot of fun you start calling players that played for him you know or played for him you know if you got somebody in a rolodex you hit them up um but it's usually like it's like opening a christmas present but you have to do it like every week if you're a st louis ramp right you know like it feels like it happens way too much.
But by Jeff Fisher, I was like, hey, whatever happens, happens. And he ended up being like my favorite coach that I had in St.
Louis. So, you know, yeah, I think I had a total of like five or six head coaches, if you include like interims and guys that came and went in St.
Louis. But, you know, it keeps you hungry if you're on a bad team and the coaches change all the time because you've got to prove it

to the next group.

Yeah, that's true.

It makes it harder, but it also keeps you hungry.

And I feel like we're right at that time in the cycle

where Spags is starting to go.

He's going to get some interviews.

People are going to be interested in having Spags as a head coach.

At some point, I feel like the thing I mentioned,

culture guys, defense, I mean, that's kind of back in vogue.

And I think at some point, like, things can get stale. It hasn't with him.
I think maybe the day Chris Jones moves on, I would consider it. Yeah.
But I think the interesting job right now that we're talking about is Vegas. I texted Dan the other day.
It's kind of wild card, but it's starting to shape up a little bit. The fact that y'all – would y'all send a private plane down to pick him up to come interview in Chicago? Yeah.
You know, I don't think it would be the worst hire in the world. Like, I think court of public opinion has eventually come around on McCarthy.
There's some guys that are never going to like him, but the players like him. And at the very least, I think they have a high floor with him.
But what that tells me is that Ben Johnson might not be the guy, and it makes sense because of the GM alignment. You know, if you guys have a GM in place, like Ben has made it.
And Ben's done a really good job. Sometimes you can make yourself really valuable, not just by your play calling, but turning down the job last year, it adds a little bit of mystique, right? Like you're like, I don't put out.
Yeah, right, right. everyone wants you a little more but yeah but you're exactly right like this is going to be a very interesting test case because if he takes the raiders job without a seemingly without a quarterback turns down the jaguars and the bears he's basically saying like you guys should have fired your gm yeah and you should and you should have fired your gm you should have given me a shot to bring in my own GM.
That was stupid of you. And hopefully you're not kicking yourself because if he's as good as people say he's going to be, then maybe you are.
But I think what's interesting about the Vegas job is Mark Davis is not known to be a cash fluid guy. And I hate to talk about me and PFT's good buddy.
Good friend. We met at the win yep uh by the koi pond i was so high on mushrooms i was i was hey hand up hey we had just come from i don't know where we had come from but um i was like there he is let's talk to him uh but but there is a rumor that he's floated like a really big number and uh if he did that what a burn the ships like move that would be, especially considering all the coaches that he's had to buy out.
And, you know, I think the Tom Brady effect is real for Ben Johnson. He must really think like this is a valuable thing and he must have been given some assurances along with the fact they fired Tom Telesco, the GM last week.
You know, I think that bodes well for Vegas. But, you know, the most interesting thing is this weekend,

Tom's going to be calling that game.

And it's going to be so funny to hear him try not to talk bad

or, you know, like just listen for the dynamic as the game goes on.

Yeah, it's interesting.

Big Cat's never said a bad thing about Mike McCarthy before.

So I think he's totally cool with it.

You'll be fine.

He'll be good. How do we feel about him? Remember we talked midway through the season, and you were getting excited off the Jacksonville game.
Yeah. And I tried to bring you back down to earth.
I think he's going to be okay, man. I like the kid.
The way I'd say it is you can't script a worse set of circumstances. And that obviously makes me look stupid because I said it was the best set of circumstances, which I'm a moron.
But next year will be very telling because he literally went through three OCs, a head coach change. The interim was his OC for three games.
He looked good. So it was a mess.
Hopefully, everyone everyone gets figured out. Dude, I was impressed with him this year as bad as things were and as bad as he played at times.
Like I was impressed with his mentality. I was impressed with his toughness.
I was impressed with his, his, his, just his like leadership. It looked like for a young player, like just the fire in his belly, like when things were going wrong to, to give a shit.
shit yeah like the winning that game at the end of the season like means nothing but that meant a lot to him right absolutely and so you know i i look forward to seeing him with somebody competent and uh you know we got to work on like maybe not answering every phone call yep uh-huh yep that was unfortunate that was very unfortunate i also think he played that all pretty well yeah exactly like that was a good response to it rolled with the punches yeah i i've been telling big cat that mike mccarthy i want to see it just because it's very funny considering everything big cat said in the past about mike mccarthy yes to have him now be the head coach yes that's an interesting dynamic but i when you get him on yeah i'm gonna read them all i'm gonna read all the tweets yeah i'll read all the tweets but i the more i think about it it is a safe choice and when you look at his history he's probably going to make you pretty good team but caleb in my opinion physically has the tools to be special like an incredible quarterback mike mccarthy if you're looking at him as like a high floor play yeah i i don't know i think you can do better i think that if you really want to maximize what could be a great quarterback, like one of the best, if not the best, in the history of your franchise, you kind of should take a shot at that point. Ben Johnson.
Who would be the high floor play? Ben Johnson. I'd put you all on the spot.
Ben Johnson. I know Ben Johnson, but how do we know? I think McCarthy is going to be good.
I don't know if he's going to be great. Ben Johnson is a swing for the fences.
It could obviously fail. It could be a swing for the fences, but there's also like, hey, we have to build that offensive line that your two all-world running backs have been running behind.
And Jared Goff's actually pretty fucking good. Yeah, no, he is.
And you're right. You don't get Ben Johnson's offensive line when you get Ben Johnson.
That's a pretty big deal. Yeah, can he bring the guys with him? Right, that's a pretty big deal.
What about Sark? What about some wild cards? Todd Munkin. I like Todd Munkin.
I don't know. I mean, there's some names out there.
It's going to end up being McCarthy. Dabo Swing.
Oh my God. I mean, they interviewed Matt Campbell.
All right. I got one last question for you, Chris.
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Yeah. Favorite bet of the weekend.
Golly. I am on the spot.
I'm going to bet it. Please don't.
Yeah. Favorite bet of the weekend.
I went like 55 and 31 picking five a week this week or this year or whatever it was. And I went one in four last week.
so playoffs different game can you read me the lines at this

point yeah the

Chiefs are

eight and a half point favorites

excuse me the Lions are

nine and a half point favorites the Bills

are one and a half point underdogs

and the Eagles are six point favorites

that's a lot of points in Philly

I know but you want to do it

what's the first half Rams

line I mean

I'm not going to say it I'm not going to say anything

I got it. that's a lot of points in philly i know but you want to do it what's the first half rams line i mean i'm not gonna say it i'm not gonna say anything about philly and the rams um we can connect the dots based on what you've already said you know i'm inevitably gonna bet buffalo like yeah you're gonna do it anyways why don't we just do it yeah uh-huh yeah plus one and a half at home just do it we're gonna bet buffalo um.
I know that game's going to come around because I've said it like I have no idea who's going to win, but I know when the game is about to kick off. I'm like, yeah, fuck it.
Let's go Buffalo. Or you could tease the Buffalo Bills with the Philadelphia Eagles.
Yeah. I like that one, too.
And then, you know, on both things. I like teasing them with the Chiefs because I feel like Chiefs, you tell me that they win by one point or one and a half points.
That feels like a pretty good chance to take. Yeah.
It does feel good, but it would make it so not fun if you're trying to celebrate seeing an upset. Right.
And that's the biggest enemy I have betting during the playoffs right I always love seeing the dog yeah you don't want the guy you want to be the guy who took the one seed against the 16 and then like UMBC happens I did that yes and then you can't even well you fucking motherfucker the next year it doesn't matter you bet against you bet it's gone i know i know you bet against umbc no what's the big deal but i was at i was at a wedding that weekend um and it was in it was like a baltimore wedding and there were like 10 umbc people at least that's all that's got to be the most umbc people in one room ever in one room ever and they just happen to to be at this fucking wedding. And I'll never forget waking up so hungover the next day.
And all the people that gave me the like, hey, you know, tonight. On the way in, they fucking, they didn't even mean it.
And they were right. Oh, that's brutal.
I like CJ Stroud over 14 and a half rushing yards. I like that as well.
Yeah. Yeah.
You know what? Hey, shameless plug. You could check it out on our show show i'll have my shit together by then love it gambling love it because i because i i it's too early in the week okay i gotta check it out sharps we wait yeah you know i've loved watching you on tv chris you've been very good on tv you've worked with with coach belichick uh what's that been like behind the scenes dude he is the funniest motherfucker ever.
I mean, he has the advantage of surprise because you don't think of him that way. And even having been coached by him, I knew he was funny in his own dry kind of way.
But the production meetings in the morning, my face hurts from smiling. And it's also he's like a football dad.
You just want to follow him around and ask him questions. He's been fun, man.
And it's also, he's like, he's like a football dad. Like you just want to follow him around and ask him questions.

He's been fun, man. You know, and they took the UNC job the morning.

He took the UNC job.

We were all like, he walks in the production meeting.

We're like, coach.

Oh, you know, I'm playing the UNC fight song.

And he sits down and he's like, you believe everything you fucking hear in the media.

And then four o'clock that day when we all leave, he takes unc job so good well he hasn't signed the contract has not he's a steel trap dude oh what yeah i signed the contract technically signed the contract well you know he likes he likes to make things interesting yeah always um all right well chris you're the best we'll see you in new orleans man thank you so much dude can's get after it, man. Yes.
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Okay, we now welcome on our very, very good friend, Adam Schefter. He's ESPN Insider.
Now, I just want everyone to know that this is not going to cover our yearly combine tradition where we'll just go backwards into the entire year of tweets and stories. This is solely because we need to know what the heck is going on with the NFL coaches hiring, firing, where everyone's going.
And I think we have to start in the most intriguing spot, and that's the Dallas Cowboys. And let me start with this.
How close was Mike McCarthy to staying, and how did that all fall apart in the last couple of days? Well, before we get to Mike McCarthy and it falling falling apart first i'll have to say that one of the coolest things of my career so far has been to watch my daughter on the nickelodeon broadcast yes introduce you guys yes and make you a part of the of bikini bikini bottom right that was pretty cool it technically wasn't us. It was Big Catfish and PF Manatee.

Yeah, she did a great job, though.

I appreciate that she introduced us before she introduced LePron James.

Yeah.

I thought that was the correct order.

I should have started with that.

You're absolutely right.

She did a fantastic job, and that was – we were the Leo meme.

We were explaining it.

We were watching it because we had the main TV was the main broadcast,

and one of the side TVs, Nickelodeon, and PFD and I both and I both just looked up like, what the heck? And she crushed it. Yeah.
Well, you know, the funny thing is, is that was the first game that she's done and she's done four or five games that I haven't been right there with her. I had to be in Bristol on Sunday morning for Sunday count.
And I tried to figure out all these ways to get to Houston and there are no late flights out, no early morning flights out. And so my son took her.
And so I'm sitting there at home, like a regular viewer watching her and she pops on the screen. I think her first hit, our very first hit that day was you guys kind of showing you guys at the game.
So I hope you guys enjoyed the Texas B game on Bikini Bottom. And she did a great job.

You must have been a very proud dad.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, and the great part was sitting with my wife,

and I know that she's going to do the post-game interview,

and I said, yeah, we'll see what it is.

I don't think it'll be Joe Mixon,

because I just don't think they're going to do it.

And they said, let's go down to Dylan Schefter

who's standing by with Joe Mixon.

I'm like, they did it.

They did it.

Joe Mixon uses the word ass in hell. Very funny.
All right, so Cowboys, give it to us. What happened with Mike McCarthy? And then are they going to actually hire Dion? First of all, I know a lot of people felt like Mike was going to be back, including myself at one point.
Like, okay, the players are coming out and supporting him. Jerry's coming out and supporting him.
He wants to be like, it was going that way, but it's one of those things where I guess it's like a couple dating. Well, yeah, they're going to get married.
They're going to get married. They're going to, except the guy never gives up the ring.
And after a while, at some point in time, the woman's like, you know what, either you're going to give me the ring or I'm moving on. And I think they sat down, they went over football stuff all week long, and it became apparent that Jerry wasn't committing long term.
They never, ever got into negotiations. They're moving forward with insights and observations about the football team.
Now, was there something that was said or done in those few days between the end of the season till the time where both sides said that they pardoned or were going their own ways? I don't think there was. I just think it became apparent over the course of those conversations that the Cowboys weren't entering into negotiations.
Like, okay, at what point do you realize, like, wow, he's eligible to talk to teams Tuesday at midnight and there's been zero negotiating like we're gonna wait till midnight on Tuesday before you realize he's not gonna be back as the Dallas Cowboys coach or what yeah and I just think it went in that direction and to the point where both sides knew that was the way it was gonna go and then they memorialized memorialized it and made it official. Because when they blocked him from doing other interviews, it felt like that's a move that you would make if you were progressing towards a new contract, right? Right.
Yes, yes, but here's the thing. I think sometimes you're trying to explain actions that aren't so easily explained with certain people, and also they knew that it wasn't like they were denying him the right to go take the Bears job, right? Because in-person interviews can't even occur until after the divisional playoff round.
The Bears have been all over the map. And if Mike McCarthy is going to talk to the Bears,

he's going to be able to do it next week, whether it is then or now. I almost feel like it's like, again, to use that dating analogy, you know, okay, the girl wants you to propose.
You're not proposing. Well, can I go out with, no, you can't.
But now a week later, you can. Yeah.
It applies there too. And so I just think that in the end, ultimately, that's what they decided to do.

Each side went its own way.

And when they said no you didn't know whether that meant that they tried we're going to try to get something done or whether they were just kind of being dallas and that's what they were doing being dallas so uh who's who if you had a handicap uh three three three names that you could see going to dallas, who is it? And we're all just intrigued about the Dion part. Of course.
Everybody is, right? And I think that, again, we're going to hear other names come up. But I think Kellen Moore is a logical name because he fits there, knows how it works, can do the job on Jerry's terms, wouldn't cost what it would cost to hire Mike Vrabel.
It fits in so many ways. But then you also have the allure of a guy like Deion Sanders.
And it's not like Jerry, I don't think, has to interview Deion. He knows Deion and Dion and Dion knows him although you'd want to hear his ideas for the program and what he would be thinking going forward and and so look I think Jerry changes mind a couple of times I'm McCarthy going along this and I think it's possible probably likely that he like other teams you go through this process and you think you know what I kind of like this guy.
And then you talk to this guy, well, I like that guy. And then this guy makes up ground.
So it's hard to forecast exactly how it's going to come out. I would just say like Helen Moore, square in contention.
Deion Sanders, if that's the way Jerry wants to go, square in contention. Could we get a guy like Leslie Frazier or Jason Witten? Yes, it's possible.
But I think that Kellen Moore is the logical name and Deion Sanders is the really fun, intriguing name. Yeah.
And we'll see how they go. It's like the angel and the demon on Jerry Jones' shoulder.
the splash hire is always going to be in jerry's mind he's like you know dion instant excitement for the dallas cowboys good for the brand kellen moore makes the most sense well but but no but pft the splash hire may be the logical hire here yeah the logical hire here we you know we just i dion has got something of the midas touch he's he's incredible around people i you know i think he'd be great i really do i and in fact again i said this on get up this morning but i go back to this call that i got in october of 2023 gm calls me up and he's like hey write this down the next head coach of the dallas cowboys is going to be Deion Sanders. I'm like, really? He's like, take it to the bank.
I'm like, okay. Why do you say? Jerry loves him.
He loves Jerry. It's going to happen.
Will it happen? We're all waiting to see. It'd be unbelievable for everybody.
Be great for the Cowboys. Be great for Deion.
Be great for shows like yours and this. Yeah, big time.
Do you think that Dion would want his son to play for the Cowboys if he was going to be the head coach? I don't view that as a viable option right now. That doesn't mean that at a later date that that couldn't happen.
But first of all, Dak Prescott's got a no-trade clause in his contract. He's the highest highest paid player in football.
They just paid him. Like, it's not practical to move off Dak.
And I don't think they're thinking of moving. They want Dak to be there.
And by the way, like, are the Titans who have the number one pick where you potentially would have to be to take Shador? Are they going to go trade that pick for Dak, the highest? I don't know about that. Yeah.
To me, that's more fantasy football. I know Deion has talked about the fact that he'd want to be with his son.
Well, okay, but that would be ideal, but it's not practical right now, unless the Titans wanted to do something. So I think it's more along the lines of he's got great respect and affection for Jerry Jones, and it's the Dallas Cowboys.
And I don't know if he still has his house. I still think he does.
He's had a house in that area. Yep.
It was the franchise. I mean, it's a no-brainer.
So that's one that I think could get him him to change his mind okay so uh other other spots uh are the bears gonna lose out on ben johnson it feels like there was a lot of momentum of ben johnson in chicago and now all the momentum has switched and it's raiders for ben johnson and mike mccarthy for the bears is that fair where where is it where is it at I would just say this that um there's a lot of ben johnson raiders talk right a lot of conversation about that right and that may happen like it could but i don't think the jaguars should be dismissed and i don't think the chicago bears should be dismissed okay i i really believe that all of them have something of an equal opportunity i don't believe there's one ahead of the other and i think there are three potential options and we're gonna see how that goes yeah and it what what is it with ben johnson is it is it uh he money? Is it, you know, obviously the two out of the three of those have quarterbacks that you would think, you know, Caleb Williams and Trevor Lawrence. The third has Tom Brady as part of partial owner.
What do you think he prioritizes? I think when you're going through one of these job searches, it becomes obvious to you and apparent to you over time who wants you most. And I don't mean in the form of money.
You guys have been through this yourselves in your life. Just think back to people who have wanted you and how that became evident to you.
And I think that Ben Johnson is going to be in a situation here where I believe he's going to be open to any one of these situations. And the landing spot will make itself apparent and evident to him over time through the conversations that either he or his agent have with that particular team.
There are drawbacks, questions with each one of those openings. He's going to have to get sufficient answers before he proceeds forward.
There's not going to be a perfect spot, but there's going to be a good spot in the end. And it's up to him to pick really the best of the that are out there that are after him.
And I think, I really really believe right now he doesn't know what that will be. Yeah.
But again, it will over time materialize and become clear. You know what? Boy, this, this team's, this team is doing what I want in the front office.
This team is handling this the way they're going to structure this the way they're saying they're going to, this team's me more years this team's giving me more money this team is saying come do this like these things become apparent to you over time and i believe the same will be true here of ben johnson and i don't believe there is a favor right now i really don't okay okay i like that what kind of questions, maybe not in the sense of the Ben Johnson interviews, but if it's a coach that is not seen as someone who gets to pick their destination, what kind of questions are asked to a coach, prospective coach, during an interview for the head job? I've never been a part of the process, so I don't exactly know, but I know that a lot of that time is spent going over staffing and their visions for the team and if you're a team like the jets i'm sure they're asking okay if you come in as the head coach the gm what are we doing a quarterback like they want to know their plans and by the way the jets have asked for permission from basically every candidate out there except for robert sala which at this point in time i wouldn't be surprised if they turn in commission for him at this point. But I'd want to know the ideas of everybody.
Like, what do you think that we should do at quarterback? Because somebody may have an idea that you hadn't thought of that can help you at that spot. So I would love to be a fly on the wall in one of these head coaching processes.
It would be fascinating to see. And again, just like we're talking about the team over time distinguishing itself and becoming obvious to a guy like Ben Johnson, I believe the same is true in turn where a candidate distinguishes himself over time and makes it such that that team believes that that guy is the right guy to go get yeah yeah we'll get back to adam schefter in a second he's brought to you by kevin's natural foods i've got their general so's chicken right here one of my favorite meals in the entire world i love general so's chicken and kevin's natural foods makes an awesome general so's chicken and it only takes seven minutes to prepare it's easy it's healthy and it's super, super tasty.
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Now here's more Adam Schefter. We saw Rex Ryan, your colleague has distinguished himself a lot on the airwaves.
Is that going to happen or is that ship sailed? Well, I don't think the ship has sailed. Listen, Rex is so passionate and so confident, and he's so unique.
And, you know, I love working with the guys so much. I'd love to see him give the chance.
I told the story to somebody. I'm like, I'm sitting at the kitchen table, and the local news comes out, and they say, and Rex Ryan's interviewing for the Jets today.
And, you know, my wife and daughter, they don't know anything about football. Like, Rex Ryan, didn't he coach there 10 years ago? I'm like, yeah.
They're like, didn't they fire him? Yeah. Well, why are they talking to him now? I said, well, they haven't been back to an AFC championship game since they fired him.
Yeah. Right? So Rex knows what's worked in New York, what's succeeded.
I would never underestimate Rex. I'm personally rooting for the guy.
But let's see how the process plays itself. I think a guy like Aaron Glenn is a favorite in New York, and I believe Aaron Glenn is absolutely going to get one of these head coaching jobs, whether it's in New York or New Orleans.
So if it happens to be in New York, well, that knocks Rex out of the Jets, and he doesn't get the job then. If it doesn't happen with Aaron Glenn, does Rex come into play? He's got a lot of friends, a lot of relationships there, and I'd love to see it, although I'd hate to lose him from ESPN because he's so great to work with, but we'll see how it all plays out.
I want to go back to the Cowboys real quick. Is there anything to do with Belichick still uh possibly looking at the cowboys i know people keep bringing this up yeah i know it is lingering out there i just don't see it i just don't see it like the i mean i'm gonna take bill at his word he said we didn't come to north carolina to leave north carolina we came here to be here He said all kinds of things along those lines.
He's in high schools every single day. I don't care that his contract isn't formally signed.
I don't care that he's connected to the... Here's my question, a better one.
Let's do it in basic common sense. Give me a place right now where you believe he fits naturally as a head coach.
Go through the openings and I could blow up every one of those places for a different reason. Like there's not even a logical fit for him out there right now.
Possibly the Raiders with Tom Brady. No, don't see it.
it the Cowboys the only one that comes to mind for me and by the way I I I understand why people would say that I don't see it I think Bill obviously had to be aware that that job could open like he's not an idiot everybody knew that McCarthy was in the last year.

I'm sure that a close look was taken at that situation. For whatever reason,

he took the North Carolina job.

I just don't see a fit for him with these current openings anywhere for me.

That's one of the things that I was looking at when the story came out.

I think it was Jonathan Jones reported that he has not signed his contract

officially at UNC yet.

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I don't know how common that is.

I don't know if it's one of these things where coaches frequently get to work before signing on the dotted line. I know he signed a term sheet, which is different, and it's not legally binding to him.
But, I mean, Bill has signed a napkin before and said this is legally binding. right now i do it with the way the way it's been to me is they have an offer sheet agreement, which is common as the state of North Carolina works out the details.
It's a process there to get a deal finalized. There isn't a gray area, but they have an offer sheet agreement, which is common in that state right now.
Got it. Got it.
So who would be a good fit for the Raiders? Well, Ben Johnson, I believe they're definitely interested in. Whether or not they'll see, that remains very much in question.
And then if they don't get Ben Johnson, what do they then do? That's where I think it gets really interesting. Who is their next choice? I don't have an answer for you right now.
Again, they haven't met face-to-face with a lot of these candidates. We could just throw people up at certain spots and talk about it, but I don't have an answer for you right now.
Like, again, they haven't met face-to-face with a lot of these candidates. We could just throw people up at certain spots and talk about it, but I don't know how much that makes sense right now.
It feels like there's maybe too many teams, and I count myself as part of this, who are just banking on, like, well, we'll get Ben Johnson. Well, let me say this.
I believe that Ben Johnson is the big domino here yeah and so i think the raiders are waiting to see what happens with ben johnson i think the bearers are waiting to see what happens i think the jaguars are waiting to see so right then and there the process is slowed down then we have the nfl and it's clunky process slowing it down even more to where no face-to-face interviews are even allowed with coaches under contracts to teams until after this upcoming weekend division. So that slows it down.
I mean, again, it's great to talk about and wonder about and speculate, but this is still really early in the process. And there's a lot that's going to play out and a lot that's still going to change yeah let me ask you this is there a possibility that ben johnson does what he did last season and just says i want to be a line i don't see it this year i don't see it um ben johnson has turned down two years of opportunities and i don't care who you are in this league.
At some point, you have to take the plunge. The money is too great.
The opportunities are too great. You can't keep turning down jobs year after year.
And again, the Lions might be this good again next year. They might be, but this is the NFL.
They might not. And if they're not, and he doesn't take one, well, all of a sudden you're on your coordinator salary as opposed to a head coaching salary of anywhere between, I don't know, 10, 11, $12 million a year.
There's just too much money to turn it down again. I don't believe it's going to happen.
I believe he's taking a head coaching job this year. You think maybe Glenn and Ben Johnson are a little bit too focused on doing outside interviews, maybe taking their eye off the ball this weekend? That's why you have agents, though.
That's why you have agents to go over that and gather all the information and find out the answers to the questions while you're coaching the game. Like that's an agent's job.

And he presents everything to you boiled down so that you can then sit down

with your wife and figure out what's best before you're going into it.

He has an idea of all that.

Like we're not oblivious to this.

He knows what each organization is about.

And by the way, yes,

he's getting ready to coach in an incredibly important postseason where the

Lions can make history and have an unbelievable,

memorable run for that city.

But he's a human being.

He also is aware that there is a career-altering option in front of him.

So, of course, there's going to be some thought given to that.

Is the NFL going to do anything about Tom Brady being an owner of the Raiders

and calling that game this

weekend and then and then being able to interview Ben Johnson before you know here's what I say to that honestly like Tom Brady has spoken to Ben Johnson he'll go through this in the interview do you think he's going to sit down there this weekend well Ben's getting ready for the biggest game of his season and be like if you come to Vegas here's what we're going to do and what do Tom Brady is a professional.

Ben Johnson is a professional.

They're not to do. Tom Brady is

a professional. Ben Johnson is

a professional. They're not doing that

this weekend. I know there are sensitive

people, but I think you have to be

practical about it. What are we talking about?

Yeah, and it also feels like,

I assume, I've never been in one of those big production

meetings, but aren't there like 10

people in there? Correct.

It'll be Tom Brady. It'll be Kevin Burkhkhart it'll be all the producers the directors erin andrews tom we're not like they're all around there so if he does it we'll find out there will be a leak now if he actually does that yeah they wanted me for a glass of wine later to like do you really think they need to do that what are they going to go over there that they haven't before or couldn't in the future?

What do they have to do with that moment that has to get done

the night before the commanders play the Lions?

Like, come on.

Maybe Tom just flashes him that winning smile

and charms him with his eyes.

I was getting nervous about it.

That could be.

Yeah, because I think the Bears are going to end up losing out on Ben Johnson

and get Mike McCarthy, which it'll be fine. I'll just say this, Big Cat.
I don't know how it's going to go yet, but here's what I would say. He may not be a Bear.
Absolutely. That's possible.
But I would just say right now, at this stage of the process, right now, don't lose the faith. Okay.
I like that. All right.
So, Shefty, I got one last question for you. This has been awesome.
Again, we'll do our full sit-down in Indy, which we always love. Did anything happen this year that there is to go over? I don't know.
We'll find some stuff. We got some stuff, some beefs.
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Please tell me that the NFL is not going to change how the seeding works because one season, the Vikings won 14 games and had to play on the road. It's never happened before.
I don't see them changing at any time in the future. The league is always looking at ways to innovate and improve.
But I've heard this complaint. Remember the year where the Seahawks

won the division with a horrible record? It was like 500. And then the Saints had a much better record and had to go to Seattle for the opening wildcard game.
And that turned out to be the Beastquake game where Marshawn Lynch had one of the most memorable runs in NFL history. And The sound level in that stadium matched a new world record.

The league is intent upon rewarding division winners. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Okay, good, good, good. Division should matter.
Yes. Now, could the league, nobody said this, but we're just talking out loud logically.
Could they then say, okay, we're going to have the division winners host games. And then after that, we'll recede.
I don't know. Does that even make sense? Maybe.
I don't know. But I've never heard any momentum or movement to change the way the playoff seeding system works.
Perfect. That's what I wanted to hear.
I appreciate that response. Yep.
the correct response. Alright, well, Shefty, you're the best.
Maybe we'll see you in New Orleans. But we'll also see you in New Orleans.
Hold on. How nervous is PFT about Saturday night? I'm nervous.
I think the Lions have a great team, but they don't have Jaden Daniels. They don't.
Period. That's how I feel about it.
If we can keep it within, if it's a one-score game in the fourth quarter, I think that Jaden Daniels will go out there and do something special and win the game. That's where he's most dangerous, right? Six comebacks in the final ten seconds of games this year.
No rookie quarterback ever has done that. He's become like a modern-day Joe Montana, John Elway, with the ability to improvise and run around.
Guy been incredible. And one person there said he covers up for a lot of our sins.

Yes, yes, he certainly does.

On that note, Cliff Kingsbury, is he going to get a job offer, do you think?

And would he accept a head coaching position?

Because he said when he left the Cardinals,

maybe it's a good thing that I'm not a head coach.

That's a lot of stress that he dealt with.

Do you think he's going to get an offer, and would he accept? Let me start by saying this. If I'm Cliff Kingsbury and I'm happy right now, I'm in no rush to leave Jaden Daniels.
I know I've got arguably the best young player in football on my roster. And so if something materialized and it was ideal and it was great, sure.
I don't know that he's looking to rush back into that world, right? I think he's still being paid by Arizona. He doesn't have to, it's not going to impact his bottom line any.
There's a lot of stress on that. I don't know that he's going to get one.
I don't know that he really wants one. I don't know that he cares about one.
I think he cares about playing the Lions right now. And we'll see how that process plays itself out.
Like I said, to me, Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn getting two of the six openings. Now we're down to four openings.
You can go try to figure out who those other four guys are going to be that are going to fill up those head coaching jobs. One of them is Dallas wild card.
We'll see how Jerry Jones thinks. now we're down to three so we got brian flores we got joe brady we got liam cone we got todd yeah there are a lot of guys and and again these guys are under contract they haven't even met with these teams yet in person right it's hard to say how that's gonna go yeah all rightfty, you're the best.
We'll see you soon. We really appreciate it.
And tell your daughter congrats on a great broadcast and thank you for giving us the respect we deserve going in front of LeBron James. In fish form.
Yes. That had to be a career highlight.
I've never been called out on a bikini bottom slime time. It was.
It was great.

That's big time.

That, I know you guys have done a lot, but that's when you know you really are. Yes, absolutely.
All right. Thanks so much, Shefty.
Thanks, guys. See you soon.
Thank you. Good to see you.
Okay, let's wrap up. We got Fyre Fest of the Week.
Henry. Yeah.
Give it to us. Yeah.
good friend long time

colleague, co-worker, collaborator. Brother.
PFT commenter who's in the room with us right now. He's trying to spin a false narrative against me and you kind of big cat that we don't like V.
That you don't exist. Oh, yeah.
And it's. I love V.
I love V. Love V.
Love V. He removed the context from the conversation.
He did. He basically just going around saying these guys are gay.
No, I didn't. Yeah, it's a witch hunt.
I didn't say that at all because in the moment- P.C. is leading a gay witch hunt against him.
This is interesting because in the moment, I felt like an outsider because I was the only one putting my hand up and saying, I love V.

We were talking visually.

Yeah, just as itself.

I think I was on your side, PFT.

Thank you, Max.

I think I was talking about how I like full V pictures.

Listen, hand up.

I'm sorry.

I like vaginas.

I'm willing to die on that hill.

Me too.

I know.

I'm willing to die on it.

Now I have to say, I have to clarify knowing that you and you got memes in your pocket with the clip army.

And it's like, I got to say, I also love vaginas great but i also love t and a but yeah if we're talking about strictly pictures which we were like visually yes yeah like the question is is is tits or ass and you would say v that's what you're you would rather have a picture of uh v than t i i love look yeah they look great oh i'd rather i a picture of T. What would your answer be? T or A? You would say V? No, if you ask me T or A, that's a two-part question.
It's A or B. How about this, for example? I would say T.
The nice young lady at the Oilers game, you would have preferred her to flash her V. No, because that's different.
No. That's way different.
No. It is way different.
Flashing V in a public setting, that's a little low class even for me. But the T was great.
I loved the T. Yeah.
And there's a bunch of people that are using the Superbad argument of like, oh yeah, I'm going to say what Jonah Hill said. Jonah Hill's character in Superbad also had an obsession with drawing dicks everywhere.
He loved dicks. I don't even

remember Superbad. Where he was like, you ever seen a V on its own? Not for me.
Ah, got it.

Listen, Hank, I believe that you like V. I'm not saying that you're gay.
I'm saying that I felt

like you were saying I was gay for liking vaginas. Well, you made the wings analogy,

which you said that A is celery, which if you're looking at the wings, the sauce, celery, you're ranking A last.

What do you mean?

Like if you're talking about a plate of wings, you're like power ranking a wing of plates.

It's the wings.

It's the sauce.

It's the celery.

It's last.

It might have been a clumsy analogy. Maybe the V, ribeye steak.
A, mac and cheese. The T, maybe.
But we're talking just visually. Loaded baked potato.
Twice baked potato is what it is. That's what the T's are.
I don't know. I just didn't appreciate it.
I've had people coming up, talk to me, and be like and be like, do you, you don't like V dude? I'm like, no,

this is all PFT spins,

spin doctor.

No,

I'm just saying in the moment,

I felt like I was a weirdo because I was the only one that said,

Hey,

I love V.

So do I for the record.

Me too.

Now,

now you,

now you've put me in a spot.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well,

yeah,

we all have our preferences.

I'm just a V guy.

I like brains.

A woman's brains.

I like her soul.

Yeah, I agree.

I like kind souls.

So wait.

I'm not talking about feet.

Just to put a bow on it.

Gay?

No.

Oh.

V.

Okay.

V.

I'm pro V1.

Pro V1.

Pro V1.

That's what they call you.

D?

D?

You like D?

Cups? No. No.
no oh not even your own sure okay all right so your fire fest is that everyone thinks that you're gay my fire fest is today in our office which is uh uh uh against i don't even know what's inappropriate i had to defend my my

stance on liking v's around a bunch of co-workers who's attacking you yeah a lot of people were there women women women uh maybe rick it was it was a it was a everyone was getting lunch and i was just like trying to make my lunch just being like nope i love v so rick got you this rattled White Boy Ray?

I think it was the internet

It was PFT's tweet make my lunch just being like, nope, I love V. So Rick got you this rattled?

White boy Rick?

I think it was the internet.

I think the internet.

It was PFT's tweet being like, I don't like V, Henry Lockwood.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's back up because memes posted the clip and then I.

But you took it out of context.

No, I posted out and I said, fellas, is it gay to like vaginas?

And then Hank was like, that's not what I said.

Then I directly quoted you.

Right. But that's when we were talking about pictures what was your quote i don't know you said it no it was your quote i don't know that i get turned on by straight v visually okay a picture of it yes i do that's it we all have differences yeah i don't think a picture of it does i'd rather see a picture of of tits.
Pictures. We're talking strictly pictures.
That's exactly. That's where the context, you were selectively choosing context.
I was just quoting you. I'm sorry for quoting you.
I go TAV for pictures. Yeah.
Definitely. Not me.
Okay, PFT. Good FireFest, eh? Great FireFest.
I'm glad we cleared that all up. My week's been pretty good overall i would say that my fire fest is mostly something that i realized last week watching football and really in as the college football playoff began i started to realize this that there are only like five commercials in the world only five commercials exist and i'm sick of all five of them and i've of them.
And the commercials, you basically have your pick of the State Farm Cinematic Universe, which includes Derrick Henry, Mahomes, all that stuff. You've got usually a product with Shaq in it is one of the options that you have.
Then you've got Flow and just a lot of insurance out there. There's only five commercials anymore.
We used to have lots of commercials. Yeah, and you get- Now they're all gone.
And you get caught in these times where you're like, you know, we watch a lot of sports, but like when you're really like March Madness, when you're really watching sports wall to wall, and it's like shit. Yeah.
That's it? And that's all you get, and you see them over and over and over. I feel like it's gotten more limited in scope too.
Shout out YouTube's TV, by the the way. The Zen is the best.
And I don't... It actually cools my brain down.
It's really good. And I don't want to sound like I'm talking shit about the NFL or their corporate partners or their messaging.
I respect the NFL's ability to make... You would never.
I would never. They priced out the little guys.
I used to be racist as fuck until the NFL painted end racism in the end zone. Yep.
And so I pay attention when roger goodell speaks yeah and i just want to say constructive feedback roger goodell give us different commercials this shit sucks i'd agree i'd agree um all right my fire fest is i uh i'm solo dadding this weekend so i'm probably gonna miss the commander's lion stream apologies pft it's okay i'm gonna try to be in for the texans chiefs where i have a little help but the menu is going to miss the commander's lion stream apologies pft it's okay i'm going to try to be in for the texans chiefs where i have a little help but uh the menu is going to get it's going to get tight we're going to do a chicken nuggets chicken nuggets and mac and cheese and that it that's it and that is it annie's yeah oh yeah oh yeah gotta get annie's elite but yeah what kind of silverware and uh and cutlery plate situation are we working with? The two older ones use regular plates and silverware. The youngest still uses his hands mostly and plastic plate.
Yeah. He likes to throw shit everywhere.
I would just lay down a tarp. Yeah.
Like your garbage bag. I should put a trough out.
Are you hoping for bedtime by the Commanders game, or are you hoping halftime? I'm going to probably be watching the first half of the Commanders-Lions game, no sound, while we watch Minions on the top TV. So yeah, that will be my reality.
Just being honest. But it's only that one game I'll be in on Sunday, all day Sunday.

But, yeah, I got to just power through it.

But, yeah, that's why.

So if you tune on the stream on Sunday night and I'm not there,

or I might not even be here for the Saturday afternoon one,

I'm going to try to make it in.

That's why.

So, yeah, wish me luck.

I got this.

Good luck.

I got this.

Good luck.

We're going to have the Beave is going to be on from Hard Factor. Love that.
Kate's Mr. Beave is going to be there giving me moral support.
A fellow Commanders fan. Yeah.
Love that. Also, Reverse Fire Fest.
I just love everyone in this room and all of our listeners so goddamn much. That's really just been a tough couple weeks, but it's great.
I got a little teary-eyed actually last night driving home because I was just like, it was a nice perspective of being like, damn, you know, the internet's a scary place, tough place, but there's a lot of people who care a lot about us. And it's good to have that moment.
And then everyone in this room, I'd fucking die for it. Take a bullet for.
Yeah, we love to. I know it's been a tough few months for you.
Yeah, it's been a few months. I didn't realize that you lost how much uh like 15 pounds i just not been eating yeah i literally and it's not like uh it's not even conscious it's like lunch happens and i just walk right by it i'm like i have no appetite and there's stress um but gotta just we're we're powering through i i didn't even tell you this is just a funny if we're doing reverse fire fest it's just an anecdote that's made me laugh uh since it happened but i went out to dinner with stew uh on wednesday or tuesday just me and him and and you know a few months ago i was talking about quitting smoking i have quitting smoking and he also used to be like the biggest pothead of all time he has also quit so we were talking about that and like talking about how like weird dreams and shit and i was like you know do you think you'll ever like start again he's like no i can't like the his diabetes or whatever it is he's like i just can't smoke like i can't eat carbs after he had just eaten like two appetizers uh like a massive pasta meal and then ate like half of my chicken parm like i was dying.
He's like, yeah, you know, I just can't eat the carbs.

And I was like, Stu, you're just fucking wolf down like to an Italian dinner for three.

It's like, yeah, you know, I just can't smoke and I can't do carbs.

Wait, wait, wait, what?

It's like the member of the mincey picture of him at the barbecue joint.

He's like, no sugar.

All the barbecue sauce.

All the barbecue, yeah.

Wait, Max, you didn't do your fire festival at the bachelor parties. You didn't say it.
I didn't say anything. Go ahead.
Bachelor parties. A lot of bachelor parties.
Yeah. That's basically it.
And I also can't. I'm not picking the bachelor party.
We are. Or bachelor.
Correct. So that's why everyone, the amount of texts that I've gotten from people that I've met like one time six years ago being like, you have to come to my batch.

It's never been more of a thing in my entire life, and I can't keep track of it all.

I guess if you guys want to do that one, we can do that.

I like giving you the illusion of having a choice, but ultimately we're going to be the ones that decide.

Correct, but that's why I think I'm putting out a Google form so that it's just organized in one place. Who's going over the Google form? Not me.
Not me. I will.
Oh. I don't want Hank doing either.
I will. I trust BFT.
Are you going to go over the Google form in Vanny Woodhead when he's driving down the street? Vanny Woodhead's buzzing. Okay.
Okay, yeah. Matt, I'll do that.
I'll be in charge. I'll be in charge of the Google Doc.

And as my first act of being in charge, I'd like to delegate that task to Hank.

Done.

Actually, you know what?

Hank, I need you to report to me, though.

And then I'll report to Max.

You know what we should do is because, you know, we have a lot of work.

I think we should delegate the Google Doc to one Stephen Che.

No.

He's a Google Doc master.

No, but he'll give Max.

He'll be like, oh, go to Chicago. No, but he'll do still like give Max.
He'll be like, oh, like, you know, go to Chicago. No, but he'll get us down to 100.
True. I honestly haven't seen that many people send us DMs.
I haven't either. Yeah, I'm surprised with the lack of AWL is getting married.
Yeah, here and there. I get a couple.
Most people are just sending them to me, and I just have to say I can't. So keep sending them.
I guess it's not. Have you gotten like 10? Yeah 10? Yeah, that's our way of saying that.
Five? We would like to see a lot more. What's going on, Nate? What's going on? You got five bachelor party requests? I've gotten like 5,000.
Yeah, I've gotten a shitload of them. I have two.
All right. Good show, boys.
Football this weekend. Can't wait.
Only, what? How many games left? Four. It's the final four this weekend.
Seven't wait. Only what? How many games left?

It's the final four this weekend.

Seven.

Seven.

Eight.

Counting the national championship.

Eight games of football left.

Enjoy the fuck out of every second.

Okay.

Numbers.

Five.

Three.

Eleven.

Seventeen.

AJ Brown's going to have a game of eleven.

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Thank you. Tom Fernell never had a nickname before.
So memes posted a picture of him. I think a pretty up-to-date photo.
Would you take that like yesterday? I have one for you. Tom Fornelli had a great suggestion, which was Graphics Guy.
That's good. And that is so far the leading vote cutter.
I suggested Zane. Shane, I have one for you, but we've discussed it.
I don't think it would be... Poppy? No.
Let's hear it. You know which one I'm going to say.
I can't say it.

Oh, don't.

Yeah.

Why not?

Graphics guy.

A lot of votes.

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