NFL Divisional Round, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders And Eagles On A Collision Course, Bills Outlast Ravens And Head To Kansas City + Who's Back Of The Week

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Conference Championship weekend set. An incredible weekend for divisional round.
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Speaker 1 We have Eagles versus Commanders, Bills versus Chiefs. We're going to recap every single game.
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Speaker 1 and it's NFL

Speaker 1 divisional round.

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Speaker 1 They're not gonna get up. Some spread great football.

Speaker 1 We start in Kansas City, where it was a cold January game, and the Texans reminded everyone of Mayweather, the way they struggled with Reed.

Speaker 1 The game started with an explosion as Nico Bosco Remigio returned the kick, forcing Chris Boyds of London to put his special teams coach's manhood up for sale after he shoved him on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 Travis Kelseman was anything but a white bust as he came out ahead and had the stickiest of hands. PJs Stroud and Grandpa Joe Mixon tried to

Speaker 1 end this Chiefs dynasty to bed. I screwed that up.

Speaker 1 He tried to put this Chiefs dynasty to bed, but it was Patrick Mahomes who had the golden ticket and the everlasting ref stoppers, making the Texans the ones who kicked the bucket.

Speaker 1 In other news, Caitlin Clark and Taylor Swift submitted submitted a Box of the Year nominee at Arrowhead Saturday as the Chiefs booked their ticket to the Kansas City Invitational.

Speaker 1 Chiefs 23, Texans 14.

Speaker 1 We go to Ford Field as the Lions hosted the Commanders in a biblical showdown with Daniels entering the Lions Den.

Speaker 1 David Montgomery came back from a knee injury, but Lions fans were screaming, what Gibbs, as Jameer was taken off the field despite gashing the commanders like the Roman Senate.

Speaker 1 Washington got a miracle from their Terry godmother as McLaurin slipped through the screen like it was a take-on-me music video.

Speaker 1 In response, Ben Johnson and Johnson was forced to take an experimental shot downfield as the lions trailed by 10 and the commanders got the ball back.

Speaker 1 And as my good friend Eminem would say, hi, my name is what, my name is, who, my name is, Freakin Ficker, Quinn Shady and Mikey Sanders still my bones collapse shut Jared down for some minor mistakes like a subway marketing representative.

Speaker 1 The Danalytics tilted towards the Commanders, with Washington being even more aggressive than Campbell. And a case of My Dan can beat up your Dan.

Speaker 1 Detroit coach Dan Talica tried to reload, singing, Give me Pinay Sewell, give me fire, give me that Zara.

Speaker 1 But Quinter Sandman showed up, saying, I've got Jaden, and nothing else matters. The Washington Commanders are going to the NFC Championship game.
Huh? Huh?

Speaker 1 45-31. Commanders win.
Left hand up. We head to snowy Philadelphia where Max Salenti was on the scene.

Speaker 1 We head over to Philadelphia where the birds were shitting on the Rams D early, but Jake Smelliott was once again acting extra smelly as he stinks at kicking, stinking extra points.

Speaker 1 After a stellar run game by the Birds, the fourth quarter came a knock-in, and Jaquan Barkley was telling the Rams defense, two. Here comes the two to the sixth to the line.

Speaker 1 Now I'm looking at Hurts right in his eyes. Tell him, hey, man, I got this for the guys.
Couple seconds pass, now they're chasing my big thighs. Everybody in the club getting TDs.

Speaker 1 Everybody in the club getting TDs.

Speaker 1 But after a pants-shitting comeback by LA, Jalen Cowboy Carter told the Rams O-line, this ain't LA.

Speaker 1 You can't hold me. So I'll lay Matt Stafford down, down, down, down.

Speaker 1 Eagles win. 28, 22.

Speaker 1 And we finish in Western New York, where Josh Jimmy Fallon swept aside all the allegations of looking drunk and breaking character in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And he stumbled and bumbled for two touchdowns, giving the Bills an 11-point halftime lead.

Speaker 1 But the L'Angelo Baltimore Ravens came out swerving and hitting that corner woo in the second half as Tractor Sito, running up bills like Mike Florillo, legal fees, he's a lawyer, boom, scored a touchdown to make it a game.

Speaker 1 Mark Aaron Andrews should have been on the sidelines instead of in the game as he dropped a two-point conversion, sending Buffalo off to the AFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 And no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. The Bills 27, the Ravens 25.
And that was the fastest two minutes divisional round.

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Speaker 1 And that was an incredible weekend of football. So incredible.
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Speaker 1 Chiefs 23, Texans 14.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy, there's a lot to talk about here.

Speaker 1 I have this as my two things can be true game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The first thing can be that the Texans got absolutely screwed by penalties.

Speaker 1 And the second thing that can also be true is the Chiefs deserve to win this game because they outplayed him in special teams and they made big, you know, defensive stands and they made big plays to Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1 And as much as it sucks, it's like,

Speaker 1 yes, did the Texans get screwed? Of course they did.

Speaker 1 The roughing the passer penalty in the first quarter that led to a field goal where

Speaker 1 that one was kind of like,

Speaker 1 you can't even put yourself in a position where you're going helmet to helmet uh on a quarterback because you just know that's probably going to get called i thought the the one that happened i think in the third quarter the unnecessary roughness where the texans hit each other yeah and mahom slid underneath them that led to a touchdown that one was absolutely bullshit and if you're a texans fan you have every right you probably weren't going to win the game because you didn't execute in the big moments and especially special teams but if you're a texans fan you have every right to bitch about that for the next week straight.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm talking, you know, video replay, slow-mo replays, replying to every Chief's tweet, just being upset. You have every single right

Speaker 1 in the legal court of the internet go off.

Speaker 5 I saw a picture of Patrick Mahomes kissing a referee.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did too.

Speaker 5 I can't believe that they just let that happen.

Speaker 1 I'll one-up you. I saw a picture of Andy Reed blowing a ref.

Speaker 5 I saw that too. Yeah.
Yeah,

Speaker 5 he was on his knees on the sidelines. But the one where Patrick Mahomes is kissing a referee on the lips, I don't know how, if you're the NFL, you can let the Chiefs get away with that.
Yes.

Speaker 5 Something should be done about that.

Speaker 5 But yeah, to your point, Big Cat, the Texans, they were the first team that outgained an opponent by 100 yards, had zero turnovers, and lost a game in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 That's now kind of bullshit.

Speaker 5 But diving deeper into what you said, they had a kick blocked. They missed an extra point.
They missed a field goal. And you could tell that Kaimi Fairbairn, first of all, not a cold weather name.

Speaker 5 Second, when he went out there wearing the full-on sub-zero mask, the full ski mask, he was not, the cold was in his head. Yeah.
So

Speaker 5 there's that. And then there's the big return that they let up right off the bat.
Stroud also got sacked eight times. He got banged up early, too.
And there were just pressures up his dick. Right.

Speaker 1 I saw that stat.

Speaker 1 That stat was bullshit because not only did the Chiefs intentionally take a safety and lose like 27 yards at the end of the game, which would have made that not a hundred-yard difference, the Chiefs also had 110 yards of kick returns,

Speaker 1 which, I mean, you could win a game.

Speaker 5 Well, most of you were on that first one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, it's 64. They had some other good kick returns.
Like, you could, theoretically, you could have a 99-yard kick return every single time and win a game with four yards of offense.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's true. So

Speaker 1 that was misleading.

Speaker 1 The Texans just have a right to be upset, and I don't think that's what they'd screwed up the game in so many other ways. Not to mention, like,

Speaker 1 the special teams, that was atrocious. And we said it when it was happening.
Kaimi Fairbairn was, he looked like sub-zero.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he was not. That is not a cold weather kicker.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't wear that much cold weather gear and

Speaker 1 exude any type of confidence for your teammates.

Speaker 5 No,

Speaker 5 the weather was up by 11 points before kickoff. So on those plays,

Speaker 5 it leads me to one thing I've been talking about for the last couple years, which is the in-studio analysts.

Speaker 5 The in-studio analysts do these network games, this guy on ESPN was a guy by the name of Russell Yurk, who we've never heard of before.

Speaker 5 We thought he might be AI because the picture of him looked like he was AI. He was on, they showed his picture on the screen for about like two seconds, then they take it away.

Speaker 5 This guy was the guy who headed up the oversight for instant replay for like a dozen years in the NFL.

Speaker 5 He is a computer program. Right.
His job, he was not a ref. He was the head of replay officiating.
So he might as well be just a piece of software code.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 I'm sick of the replay guys, the analysts, getting on TV and just being like, yeah, the refs are right. Right.
That was a good call.

Speaker 5 The unnecessary roughness against Mahomes was complete bullshit. Complete bullshit.

Speaker 5 The one where they hit him in the pocket, that was bullshit too, because it was the chest that made contact with his shoulder. And then, yeah, his face or his helmet got close to Mashas

Speaker 5 close to Mahomes' face mask afterwards. That was bullshit.
But again, if the Chiefs get any breaks in games, they capitalize on. They always do.

Speaker 5 And also, the Texans might be circled as being like one of the teams that refs take a closer look at because of the way they reacted to the Al Shair suspension thing, which is complete bullshit also.

Speaker 5 But also

Speaker 5 the matchup of Chris Jones going up against this Texans' offensive line. on the field in between the lines and between the whistles.
That was dominance.

Speaker 5 He was just so disruptive. Yeah,

Speaker 1 and Carloftus was incredible. I mean, he was just wrecking them on big, big plays.
The Texans,

Speaker 1 that fourth and 10 that they ran where they weren't really set, didn't call a timeout, that was like an enormous play.

Speaker 1 And it just felt like outside of the penalties, which were egregious,

Speaker 1 the Chiefs did what they do. They execute big-time situations like that throw to Travis Kelsey, where Mahomes was completely parallel to the ground.
Those type of plays, the big third downs.

Speaker 1 I do want to say, so

Speaker 1 Russell Yurk,

Speaker 1 loser. Troy Aikman, shout out Troy Aikman.

Speaker 1 Because I like that he has just basically, I don't know when it happened, but he essentially is just like, I'm going to be brutally honest all the time and say, fuck it.

Speaker 1 If he watches a bad football game, he's going to tell you it's a bad football game.

Speaker 1 And his point on Patrick Mahomes was spot on: that Mahomes, as great as he is, and he is the best, right now in the NFL, he's going for a three-peat, which has never happened in the NFL.

Speaker 1 His thing where

Speaker 1 he lets up on purpose to try to goat players into hitting him is bullshit. It's bullshit.
Like, you can't, it's so hard for defenders to hit a quarterback in today's NFL. It's essentially impossible.

Speaker 1 And they have all the rights the quarterback does in terms of how they can dictate how the play is going to go.

Speaker 1 And he called out that one specific play where Mahomes, it wasn't even one of the penalties. It was Mahomes essentially who was scrambling and

Speaker 1 almost stood still waiting for a guy to hit him illegally or hit him out of bounds. And I wish Mahomes didn't do that because he doesn't have to.
Yeah. That's the one thing.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have to do that.

Speaker 5 But also, it is a smart play by Mahomes Doo because he gets those calls all the time. No, it's not.

Speaker 5 Which is like the same thing that you were saying. It's two things are true.
He's doing the right thing in terms of how to win a football game. That works.
It sucks to watch.

Speaker 5 It sucks to be a defender. The only thing that needs to happen, the NFL needs to change the rule.

Speaker 5 What they should do, this is actually a perfect example of what the NFL should do with replay.

Speaker 5 That's a pretty cut and dry one where you can watch on replay and say, is this an out-of-bounds hit or not?

Speaker 1 Right. And it's, it's no different than the NBA when guys used to try to jump into people to get a shooting foul.
Yeah. Like, it's, guys were doing that because they were calling it.

Speaker 1 You need to figure out a way to not call it as much so that Mahomes isn't, you know, benefiting from it because then he'll stop doing it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, if that's the rule, then he's going to continue to do it as long as it's helping his team out.

Speaker 5 I actually thought the Texans defense, for the most part, at least in terms of their cornerbacks, played pretty good. They played really well.
Stingley and Lassiter gave up zero catches.

Speaker 5 Zero catches. That's pretty fucking good.

Speaker 1 Counterpoint, they just didn't

Speaker 1 account for Travis Kelsey. Right, but Travis Kelsey was

Speaker 1 like, no, yeah, but the game plan of like, oh, we think Travis Kelsey's over the hill, that's just not true because Travis Kelsey continues to be a monster in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 He went for seven catches, 117 yards, and a touchdown. Travis Kelsey, that is his 14th straight game with over 70, playoff game with over 70 yards.
In those 14 games, he is averaging.

Speaker 1 These are all playoff games. He is averaging 8.5 catches, 99 yards, and over a touchdown per game.

Speaker 1 You probably should have worried about Travis Kelsey a little bit more. And we said this on Friday when we were doing the preview.

Speaker 1 When the Chiefs get in the playoffs, it's Mahomes with his legs and Travis Kelsey on third down, and you just know that it's going to be there. And it was there when they needed it.

Speaker 1 And that was the difference in the game. Like,

Speaker 1 if you don't let Travis Kelsey beat you, maybe the Texans win that game. I don't know.

Speaker 1 At the end of the day, the Texans just didn't execute in special teams more than anything.

Speaker 1 And not blocking, you know, it felt like there was multiple times that the Chiefs needed a big play on defense and Spaggs would dial something up and they would send a blitzer

Speaker 1 to left. Carloftis would win it one-on-one, and they would get that big sack and get him into negative plays.
It sucks because I thought C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud was, he played well, and he was tough as fuck because he got absolutely killed a few times.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it looks like he got hit out of bounds when he was running in the first quarter, and then he was significantly hampered when he was trying to run after that.

Speaker 5 By the end of the game, he was just killed.

Speaker 1 He got hit again, too, I think, later in the game.

Speaker 5 He was torn up. But yeah, the Chiefs' defense played really well.
I just think that the Texans, they played a lot better than a lot of people thought that they would.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they only scored one touchdown, though. That's like you look at it and you're like, okay,

Speaker 1 you left a bunch of points on the field with your field goal unit.

Speaker 1 You hurt your defense by giving up a bunch of kick returns, and then you scored one touchdown. Like, you can't win a game scoring one touchdown against the Chiefs in Arrowhead in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 You want to do a thought experiment real quick? Yeah. Okay, imagine the Kansas City Chiefs had never won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 Would people be rooting for the Chiefs in these playoffs? Would they be a team that's fun to watch that still?

Speaker 5 You don't think so?

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say they're fun to watch. Compared to the team's left.
Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 so would it be the Chiefs have the same history, but they never, would they have gotten as far and like fallen short?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I guess that's the same thing.

Speaker 1 Like would they have gotten to the Super Bowl? Because then, yes, I think

Speaker 1 people would have been rooting for Mahomes, kind of like a Josh Allen or Lamar, where it's like, if he had gotten to all these Super Bowls and never won one.

Speaker 5 Yeah, alternate universe where Josh has three Super Bowls, Patrick Mahomes doesn't have any.

Speaker 1 I think people would be rooting for him. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
But they wouldn't

Speaker 5 get roots. They would still get upset with the whole sideline dancing thing.

Speaker 5 And when he took that, when he did that slide, when the two Texans hit each other, that's not, I don't blame Mahomes for doing that. He was just trying to get on the ground.

Speaker 5 But that's a call that you can't make as a ref. Do you know how a fast-shaped city?

Speaker 1 He also waited so long to go to the ground, though.

Speaker 1 He wasn't really trying to get to the ground. But it's, but this is what we say.
I mean, the Chiefs are.

Speaker 1 for the every call goes the Chiefs' way. I actually don't think statistically, I don't think that's true.
Like, people pull it up and it's like, it's actually not true. It feels that way.

Speaker 1 The reason why it feels that way is that if you give the Chiefs even an inch, they're going to win the game.

Speaker 5 If you extend the drive.

Speaker 1 If you make

Speaker 1 a singular mistake with the Chiefs, and these calls weren't mistakes because they were just bad calls, they will capitalize every single time and make you pay for it. So the calls calls get magnified.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like

Speaker 1 if they don't score a touchdown in a field goal off these two calls, it probably just doesn't feel as significant. But because if they get a free 15 yards, they're going to go score a touchdown.

Speaker 1 That's just what the Chiefs do. That's a championship team.
That's what they do.

Speaker 5 And we're going to be 60 years old, and Travis Kelsey is just going to be sitting down in the middle of zone coverage, catching a football, turning upfield, running for 12 more yards.

Speaker 5 That's just going to happen. I love it when I'm just like, this guy just knows how to get open.

Speaker 1 He's so good, and he's so good in these big situations. And like I said, I mean, the 14, 14 straight playoff games of 70 yards or more.
And

Speaker 1 I think two of those 14 were in the 70s. Like, he had 171 and 179.
There's a bunch that are in the hundreds. Like,

Speaker 1 he just shows up. He's there for Mahomes when he needs to be.
And I mean, that pass by Mahomes, where he was completely parallel was insane.

Speaker 5 It was nuts.

Speaker 1 It was absolutely insane. And now Mahomes is 7-0 in the divisional round.
He has won a playoff game every single year that he has been a starter, which is pretty insane. That's just baseline.

Speaker 1 He's going to win at least one playoff game. And the last seven years for the Chiefs look like this.

Speaker 1 In 2018, they lost to the Patriots in the AFC Championship game. In 2019, they won the Super Bowl.
In 2020, they lost the Super Bowl. In 2021, they lost to the Bengals in the AFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 22 Super Bowl champs, 23 Super Bowl champs, 24 AFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 The floor for their season is the AFC Championship game.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it must be nice.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 5 Must be real nice.

Speaker 5 I want to see what the map looks like when they put out the map of who America is rooting for these games. Yeah.
It's probably just Kansas,

Speaker 5 Missouri.

Speaker 1 I think it's just Kansas.

Speaker 5 Missouri, probably. Maybe.

Speaker 5 Maybe Texas.

Speaker 1 Maybe Texas.

Speaker 5 Probably not. But that's probably about it in this one.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 They're just always there. And it is, I mean, Scott Van Pelt joked about it, like the Kansas City Invitational.
That's what it's become.

Speaker 1 Oh, I guess last year they didn't host it because they went to Baltimore. But the other six years, I believe they hosted all of those.

Speaker 5 I just want to put a magnifying glass or a spotlight on Deontay Johnson's year this year because I think he's had the craziest year of any NFL player ever.

Speaker 5 So he got traded from the Steelers to the Panthers. Yep.
He got traded from the Panthers to the Ravens. He got suspended from the Ravens.
Then he got brought back and cut by the Ravens.

Speaker 5 Then he got signed by the Texans. Then he got cut by the Texans.

Speaker 5 And then he got signed by the Ravens again, mostly just for a procedural thing so they could cut him and I think get like a compensatory pay

Speaker 5 out of it. But that's you have to be really bad at wide receiver to get cut by the Ravens and the Texans.

Speaker 1 Also, probably not a great locker room guy.

Speaker 5 In this year, yeah, probably not a great locker room guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think there was that clip of him like when the, I think it was on the Ravens when he got like one target and they won the game.
I think he was pissed off after.

Speaker 5 I think he was pissed after the Texans won their playoff game. I think he was upset after that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he should never have left Pittsburgh. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, yeah, I mean, this year to get cut from the Steelers, to get cut from the Texans and the Ravens, given their receiver injuries. Yeah.
That's pretty bad.

Speaker 5 Also, getting traded away as a wide receiver from the Steelers is really bad.

Speaker 1 Really bad. Really bad.

Speaker 1 So, Texans, I feel like as rocky as this season looked, and it did look really rocky because C.J. Stroud, I mean, he took a step back.
He was not as good as he was last year.

Speaker 1 I feel like the arrow is still pointing up for them because that defense is so legit, and you got to hope that you're not going to have...

Speaker 1 Two of your top three weapons get hurt like they did with Tank Dell and Stephon Diggs. I know Tank Dell might not be back for a while, but that.

Speaker 1 He also also came to play in the playoff game.

Speaker 1 He showed that dog in the playoff game. They didn't lose because of him at all.
No,

Speaker 1 in the Chargers game, they killed him, and that defense is ⁇ I mean, that was an incredible defense, and they went toe-to-toe with the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 I know that the final score doesn't look like that, but they were in that game for the majority of that game, and they just had a few plays, whether it be the block field goal, missed field goal, a couple sacks here and there.

Speaker 1 Like that they just, if they get an offensive line and maybe another weapon, they'll be right back in the thick of it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, after the game, C.J. Stroud was pretty realistic about it.

Speaker 5 He was like, yeah, I'd say this, you know, I'm not happy with the loss, but I'm happy with how we competed, and there's some things to be optimistic about.

Speaker 5 And then they asked Miko Ryan's that same question. He was like, no, I'm fucking furious.
This sucks. This is the worst ever.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And there was a lot of, rightfully so, Texans players being like, you can't.

Speaker 1 I actually thought that they were, they, I saw a couple quotes, and they were essentially like, you you just can't make mistakes against the chiefs like you know that they they were kind of blaming the refs but it is true like you just can't make a single mistake against the chiefs because patrick mahomes is that level now where he's not the same guy that he was six years ago where he was just throwing bombs to tyree hill but his like savviness and ability to just make a big play when it needs to be made is so off the charts it's like that winning

Speaker 1 His numbers don't jump off the tape off the page, but like they used to. But his ability to just win and be in big moments is so out of control that you just know the Chiefs are going to be there.

Speaker 5 You know what's scary to think about? This right now, what we're seeing Patrick Mahomes do this season, this might be the NFL figuring out Patrick Mahomes. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Because when he had Tyreek Hill and he was putting up all those crazy stats and numbers, that was before defenses adjusted. Then they started running that like too high safety look on him.

Speaker 5 You're not going to score 30 points in a quarter against us anymore. And then this is the NFL figuring out Patrick Mahomes, and they won 15 games.

Speaker 1 They went 15 and two, and they're in the AFC championship game.

Speaker 1 And last year, everyone was like, the Chiefs are not good, and they won the Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's the level that Patrick Mahomes is playing at. And their defense is just so legit.
I mean, their defensive line wrecks teams. McDuffie's such a stud.
Jalen Watson being back was huge.

Speaker 1 And Spaggs is, I mean, he just, it feels like there's like three or four times a game where Spaggs will just call the perfect play.

Speaker 1 That it's, it's, it's, it's the same thing as like a genius offensive coordinator who will call a play that no one sees coming and trick a team.

Speaker 1 Uh, he does that on defense, and it's, it's incredible to watch because you just know if you get in a spot where you are in like obvious passing downs late in a game and you're trailing to the Chiefs, Spaggs will figure it out.

Speaker 1 And that's what he did.

Speaker 5 At all the right times. Yeah.
Hank, what were you going to say? I thought you raised your hand.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, I understand what it was like rooting against the Patriots for a long time. I always used to do the, you know, hate us because they ain't us, but

Speaker 1 it's just miserable. It's slow death.

Speaker 1 No one's rooting for the Chiefs. At least, like, I'm not.
I like that. They hate us.

Speaker 5 They hate us because they ain't us.

Speaker 1 You better be rooting for the Bills. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's our friend Josh.

Speaker 5 Rooting for your friend Tom Brady's dynasty.

Speaker 5 Josh's got to do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, I mean, the Chiefs, they're just, they pounce on everything.

Speaker 5 They just do. They're just going to

Speaker 5 keep doing this year in, year out. And when it comes to Patrick Mahomes, if it means that he has to throw 150 yards and win, he'll figure out a way to do that.
Right. And guess what?

Speaker 5 Their running game will probably be cooking that game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, they didn't really have, I mean,

Speaker 1 we said it with the yards gained. I mean, like I said, the field position was great for them, but it's not.
I mean, Kareem Hunt carried the ball eight times.

Speaker 5 That was their leading rusher for 44 yards and and and pacheco had five rushes for 18 yards like they didn't they it was travis kelsey and patrick mahomes and it is making big plays in a sick twist as as chiefs fans and chiefs players have been you know scrapping around looking for bulletin board material wherever they can find it for the last like three seasons because they're everybody respects the chiefs everybody knows how good they are Now they've got the bulletin board material of one, Patrick Mahomes did not make the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 5 That was unnecessary bulletin board material that we gave them, America. Number two is talking about the refs.

Speaker 5 That has somehow become a strength of theirs where they're like, all you guys are going to do is complain about the refs.

Speaker 1 Talking about the refs, Travis Kelsey being washed in the regular season.

Speaker 1 His over-hundred yards for the playoff game was 50.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I think they were saving him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Of course they are. He just, he has to show up in the playoffs, and that's what he does.

Speaker 1 So it's Mahomes, the refs, Travis Kelsey. Also, remember that stat?

Speaker 1 They were one of like three teams to not score 30 points. Yep.
That's still going.

Speaker 1 Do you know who scored 30 points 11 times? The Detroit Lions. Yeah.
Like that's...

Speaker 1 They don't give a fuck. The Chiefs are not trying to win style points.
They're just winning football games, and they do it at a level that is insane.

Speaker 5 I respect the hell out of the Chiefs for being able to do this.

Speaker 5 For keeping this up, it's honestly pretty incredible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, like I said, Mahomes has reached a different level where

Speaker 1 it's not the wow, eye-popping numbers that he's had in years past, but it doesn't matter because he's just at a, he's like thinking the game at a different level.

Speaker 1 And every time you need a big play, it's Mahomes. And yeah, I mean, the Chiefs fans, like, I think Chiefs fans need to just embrace the fact that the refs

Speaker 1 did help them in this game and just be like, sorry, don't make mistakes. Don't ever lead with your helmet near within 10 yards of Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 If you put your helmet even 10 yards within Patrick Mahomes, there's a chance it's going to get flat. It probably will.
Yeah. So just don't do it.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And you mentioned it in the fastest two minutes.
They did have the box of the year. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Taylor Swift, Caitlin Clark, Tommy Alter, our friend, put some respect on Tommy was just lingering in the background of that.

Speaker 1 Big time lingering.

Speaker 5 And then they had Donna Kelsey, right? She was up there.

Speaker 5 Yep. Donna Kelsey was

Speaker 5 Mr. Kelsey around?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 5 He never gets talking. He never gets FaceTime.
Mr.

Speaker 1 Kelsey never gets it. Yeah.
Box here. It was also Dave Portnoy's like dream, dream box.

Speaker 5 Yep.

Speaker 1 There was.

Speaker 1 He probably saw that and was like, man, I wish I was there.

Speaker 5 Are you guys box guys?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Big time. Like just the box or do you need the game? You need TDs around the game?

Speaker 1 I would like the game, yeah. No, I would like the game.

Speaker 1 I don't think I could just watch a box. I could hold it.
I love being in a good box.

Speaker 5 Yeah. But not watching the box.

Speaker 1 But if you go into a box, you're just not going to watch the game?

Speaker 5 No, but if you're watching the box.

Speaker 1 I like going inside the box. You would like to just watch the box instead of the football game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sometimes I would like to just watch the box i'd like to watch the whole thing i want everything around the box like what's a box if you don't have the football game the goal is to get into the box what's a box if you're not inside of it the box is that's what you want to get into yeah that's just sometimes that's just looking at a picture of a box right and that doesn't do anything no sometimes the chase to get in the box is better than being in the box

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah i mean if you never get in the box so that kind of sucks it does yeah you look back on it you're like maybe i could have gotten in that box but we'll never get get it.

Speaker 1 Maybe I should have just asked if I could have gotten in that box. Yes.

Speaker 1 And the box would have been like, yeah, why did it take you so long to ask?

Speaker 1 That is

Speaker 1 the worst feeling.

Speaker 5 But then maybe there are some boxes that you think that you could have gotten into, but in reality, you wouldn't have. But you always will go on thinking, I could have been in that box.

Speaker 5 And you can tell your friends, I could have been in that box.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, those are some of the best boxes when you go and you're like, oh, did you see how many boxes I could have gotten into tonight? But I didn't, you know what? I'd rather just have pizza.

Speaker 1 All of them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I'd rather just have pizza and hang with the boys at 2 2 a.m instead of getting into all those boxes that were inviting me when you saw tommy your friend in the box were you like damn like were you like mad or you like happy no i asked him i asked him to please not shower so i could smell him after i was happy i was i was super pumped for tommy yeah like you got to gas your bros up yeah for sure of course we did we we texted him we're like dude big time how sick was that box

Speaker 1 looked pretty sick it looked really sick yeah

Speaker 1 Chiefs are just going to go to the Super Bowl again, aren't they?

Speaker 5 I mean,

Speaker 5 you'd be a fool to say, to write them off or to doubt them.

Speaker 1 I tweeted it a month ago. I was like, everyone needs to just recognize that the Chiefs are going to three-peat and then act accordingly.
And it's not like

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for the opposite to happen.

Speaker 1 I bet the Chiefs in this game because I was like, well, it's playoff Mahomes. And I was actively rooting for the Texans during the game.

Speaker 1 Also. It was the Travis, the Travis Kelsey parallel to the ground touchdown.
That's when it was like, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's Mahomes. That's like he has.

Speaker 5 He just stood there looking at the defender like you tried.

Speaker 1 And he's going to have like two or three of those plays a game where like no one else can do that. And he did that.
And that's why he's Mahomes and everyone else is everyone else. I

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 just thinking about this game,

Speaker 1 I do want to say anyone who bet minus nine and a half, apologies, because I know it was eight and a half all week. And then on Saturday, it was nine and a half.
That safety was so fucked.

Speaker 1 That's an all-time, all-time safety goal. After the misfield goal.
After the misfield goal where you're like, holy shit, we did it. And then to lose it.
I think some people pushed it nine as well.

Speaker 1 That's one that you have a right to complain about just as much as the Texans can complain. Again, I don't think the

Speaker 1 Texans, when you score one touchdown and have those gaffes on special teams,

Speaker 1 you can't be like, man, we should have won that game if those calls go differently. But that doesn't, that's, that's common sense.
That's the, the two things can be true. That's common sense.

Speaker 1 A rational fan brain, complain the fuck away.

Speaker 5 Yeah, at least you have a great complaint to just bitch about yeah you can always in your mind you can look back on this game a year from now being like we should have beat the chiefs but the refs us yeah we got screwed and that's that's good it's it's nice to have an excuse that is not your fault at all yeah uh okay so anything else from this game the chiefs i believe are one and a half point favorites over the bills okay which that's disrespectful to patrick mahomes i would say so i would say

Speaker 1 they'll just throw that out there they just i also did you guys see that picture of the Texans fans that were at the last, last row of Arrowhead? No. Oh, my God.
I want to just, I don't know.

Speaker 1 They probably don't. If they're hearing this, if they know someone, if someone knows these people, just be like, hey, we mentioned them.
I'll try to find it for you.

Speaker 1 It's like a narrow portion where it like.

Speaker 1 They were so far up there and it was so cold and so windy that I don't know how they survived. And those are just, those fans need a shout out.
Let me find a picture. Can you find it, Max?

Speaker 1 One thing I do like to talk about

Speaker 5 the cold weather is when the coaches wear the ski mask on the sidelines because the one that goes like above your mouth, it blocks out the lip readers out there. Yeah.
It's perfect.

Speaker 5 That's why Andy Reid has a big mustache. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look at that. Look at that picture.
Yeah, go. Those Texans fans, that's...
I don't even know if they make you pay for those seats.

Speaker 5 Is that a safe row? Is that

Speaker 5 structurally sound?

Speaker 1 That's so far up there.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you know, they're just getting their fucking dicks kicked in by the wind up there yeah that's like uh that thing that leans out over the willis tower yeah that you look at yeah so shout out to those texans fans arrow pointing up for the texans i i really do think that like this this was weirdly uh bad season because you know the injuries and cj stroud step back but they they're gonna be there next year yeah and they're gonna they they are the only team to never be in a champion championship game.

Speaker 1 I think I saw that stop.

Speaker 5 I didn't think that CJ played bad. I think that this is something that you can be happy with going to next year.

Speaker 1 And remember, you have more playoff wins than the Cowboys since your franchise was created. Pretty good.
Just,

Speaker 1 we made that graphic. Just take that graphic, save it to your phone.
Show it to everyone.

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Speaker 1 Okay, night game. Commanders 45, Lions 31.

Speaker 1 PFT. What a game.
Yeah. What a fucking game.

Speaker 5 If you're a Lions fan, please fast forward probably for the next three minutes. I understand that you would not want to.
That's going to be longer than that. That you would want to listen to this.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 But for the first time

Speaker 5 that I can ever remember in my life,

Speaker 5 I'm thinking Soupy.

Speaker 5 I'm finally thinking Soupy.

Speaker 5 And the turnaround this team had is fucking unreal from last year. Last year, the Commanders were 4 and 13.

Speaker 5 We had the worst defense in the NFL, ranked number 32. We had the 25th offense in the NFL,

Speaker 5 a minus 189 point differential.

Speaker 5 This year, 14 and 5.

Speaker 5 16th ranked defense, 5th ranked offense, first ranked offense on on fourth down. A couple weeks ago, we weren't sure if they were good.
We thought that they just won games.

Speaker 1 They're good.

Speaker 5 They just kicked a great team's ass in their house. They're a fucking good team.

Speaker 5 And Jaden Daniels, he is God.

Speaker 5 Jaden is, he's the best. I think he's the best quarterback in the NFC.

Speaker 5 I think he's... probably top five in the NFL.

Speaker 5 This team is just incredible to watch. It was a lot of fun.
That second quarter was just, it was nuts. Just score, score, score.
And the defense stepped it up big time, creating turnovers.

Speaker 5 The interceptions of Jared, the interception of the trick play that Ben Johnson tried to run. They did kind of a bin-but-don't break thing.
The Lions were scoring touchdowns.

Speaker 5 They were gashing us with Jameer Gibbs. And then for some reason, they kept putting Montgomery back out there.
On Friday, I said, Montgomery's a great player, and he's tough as fuck.

Speaker 5 If he's battled back and he's playing in this game, I respect the hell out of him.

Speaker 5 But at the same time, if you're going to tell me I'm either getting Montgomery on the field or Gibbs on the field as a Commanders fan, give Montgomery as many touches as you can possibly give him because we couldn't stop Jameer Gibbs at all.

Speaker 5 And yeah, they scored their points, they took their shots, but their defense, I think, probably sustained too many injuries over the course of the season to be able to do much to stop the Commanders.

Speaker 5 But it is

Speaker 5 incredible.

Speaker 5 It's been such a fun season, and Jaden is the first quarterback quarterback that's drafted in the top four to ever make a championship game as a rookie. And,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 5 it was a lot of fun. I was scared going into the game.

Speaker 5 I wasn't feeling confident until we recovered that on-side kick at the end.

Speaker 5 But, yeah, man,

Speaker 5 I think we can beat anybody. Yeah.
That's what Jaden has done. I don't think that we're the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 5 I don't think we necessarily have the best roster top to bottom in the NFL, but I think that we could beat any team on any given Sunday.

Speaker 5 And the keys to the game, fuck them up, put the women and children to bed. Yep.
Jaden Daniels and the hype video for check marks.

Speaker 1 Which is a great hype video.

Speaker 5 Thank you. I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 Max didn't care for it. I watched the whole thing.

Speaker 1 It was a great hype video.

Speaker 1 And then I listened to Coldplay in my car.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I did.
That's a lie. That's when you know a hype video is good, that you listen to the song after the hype video.

Speaker 5 It's a great song. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a lie saying that I didn't care for it. I thought it was a really good video, but it

Speaker 5 other people agreed with me that it seemed more like an end-of-season video. Guess what?

Speaker 1 It worked. It worked.

Speaker 5 It worked. Was it supposed to hype up other people or Commanders fans?

Speaker 1 No, there were Commanders fans that were saying that, too.

Speaker 5 No, I didn't see that.

Speaker 5 I saw almost 100% approval rating on the hype video.

Speaker 1 No, everyone said it. It was a good video.
It was a great video. It just, the vibe.
But, you know, it worked. So, what can I say? It worked.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was telling a story. I was telling a story.

Speaker 1 It was a great storytelling.

Speaker 1 This game, to me, came down to two things. One,

Speaker 1 a guy by the name of Philly Mays on Twitter tweeted out the Lions may win this game by 100 when they were up 7-3.

Speaker 1 That was almost instantly proven incorrect. And then the real thing was,

Speaker 1 I think we all had the same thought when we were watching this game. Commanders were incredible in the first half.
We're like,

Speaker 1 can they hold on? And what happened in the second half? Commanders get the ball three and out. Lions go down the field, score, make it a three-point game.
You're like, uh-oh, here it comes.

Speaker 1 And then Jaden Jaden Daniels went on a 15-play, 70-yard drive, started with 8.28 in the third quarter, gave the ball back to the Lions with 13.29 in the fourth quarter, got a touchdown, back to a 10-point lead.

Speaker 1 That was it. Like that, that drive, because that was the moment.
That was the moment. And I think I tweeted Jaden Daniels unflappable.
That was the moment where the commanders could have blinked.

Speaker 1 And like, you know, you're in a ruckus environment. You're an eight and a half point dog.
You just went three and out. They just went and scored.
It's a three-point game. And he didn't blink.

Speaker 1 And he's, I mean, he's special. Like, that's what I wrote down right here.
Jaden Daniels is special.

Speaker 1 He's incredible. Like, his rookie season has been out of this world, probably one of the best of all time rookie seasons.

Speaker 1 Obviously, I get tagged in a lot of tweets.

Speaker 1 He's way better than Caleb Williams right now. I still have hopes for Caleb Williams, but I also think that if Jaden Daniels was drafted by the Bears, he wouldn't have been good.

Speaker 1 That's neither here nor there. This is more about Jaden Daniels.
He's special. He's an incredible, incredible talent.
And I said this to you on Friday. I was like,

Speaker 1 I went in the game being like, the Lions are better, but Jaden Daniels is just different.

Speaker 1 And like, that was, I kept on saying in my head, I ended up betting the commanders on the spread.

Speaker 1 I wish I'd been a money line, but I just kept on saying, like, whatever's happening here, it's a whole team believing and this guy just carrying them all.

Speaker 5 to this place where it's like they're just everyone's playing better and everyone plays different knowing they have that guy who can make those type of drives and those type of plays fourth down plays where it just it's incredible so on fourth down i i noticed this early on in the season uh like third and short fourth and short jaden daniels just doesn't care he just doesn't care at all he's he's the same guy he acts like it's a first and 10 every time he acts like it's the easiest play in the world he's unflappable he's cool he does not panic ever so when we we do these fourth down conversions i'm always like yeah you know what Dan?

Speaker 5 Fuck it. Let's go for it.

Speaker 1 Except for Marcus Mariota. That was one of the worst.

Speaker 5 That was bad. So I think we were three for four on fourth down conversions.

Speaker 1 Don't take the ball out of Jaden Daniels' hands.

Speaker 5 Don't do it. With the Commanders, I think after Saturday night's game, we now have the most fourth-down conversions in playoff history after two games.
Like they go for it. They're consistent.

Speaker 5 Dan Quinn's been doing this all year.

Speaker 5 Like he out-danned Dan. Yeah.
It was, this is the type of game playing that Dan Campbell's known for. Dan Quinn did it.
We executed better.

Speaker 5 Just he doesn't he does not give a fuck that it's fourth down. Yeah.
I don't know how he does it. He doesn't feel emotions.
He just goes out there and he acts like it's practice.

Speaker 1 The term or Lofsky, I like the term he uses. He says pocket peace.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's got the best pocket piece. Like he's just peace.

Speaker 1 He's at peace.

Speaker 1 He's unflappable. That was the two words.
Unflappable and special.

Speaker 1 Like there's just something going on there where he's just he's the game is slowing down for him almost where he just looks like he's playing it at a completely different speed than everyone else.

Speaker 1 Also, to add to your, like, turnaround,

Speaker 1 each of the top eight commander tacklers this year on defense were not on the roster a year ago. And Dan Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury and your ownership group and, you know, your GM, everyone.

Speaker 1 Like, this is.

Speaker 1 Watching this,

Speaker 1 I've come to peace with it. Obviously, I've had

Speaker 1 mixed feelings where I, you know, tried to fight against it. And I was like, fuck, this is not, like, this isn't happening.
Jaden Daniels is special.

Speaker 1 I had, I, I've given up probably like three weeks ago where I was like, this is just, I think it was the Falcons game where I was like, why even fight it? The guy is on another level.

Speaker 1 And if anything, it gives hope to anyone who roots for a bad team. It's like, you just got to get a new owner.
Yeah. And then everything can work because Dan Quinn, everything's working for him.
And

Speaker 1 everything's working for Cliff Kingsbury. Everything's working for Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 1 The only thing that's not working is Stu Feiner did say that after everyone on the Commanders hugged Magic Johnson after the game, that the whole team is out with AIDS next week.

Speaker 5 Well, that's not true scientifically.

Speaker 1 That was Stu going back in his bag.

Speaker 5 But you know what? It's a playoff. Everybody's dealing with something.
Everyone's nicked up in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 No, it's crazy. I'm happy for you.
It's crazy. Like, I know people are like, oh, you're not actually happy for him.

Speaker 1 I gave up on trying to fight it, like I said, a month ago, where it's like, you just got to sit back and watch and be like, this is what we're watching is incredible and enjoy it as a sports watcher and not think about, you know, what could have been.

Speaker 5 It's just, on he's a joy to watch play football he's unreal he's unreal yeah with the the turnaround that they've had and the the guys on defense the the second drive that the lions had going in they were up 7-3 and we forced a fumble recovered it i think if the lions score that it but it might be a different game and but to come up with a big play at the right time between him jeremy chin mikey sanderstill i fucking love this guy I love him so much.

Speaker 5 Got two picks. He played receiver at Michigan too, not just cornerback.
He is the best. And

Speaker 5 tough break with Sam Cosme, who was playing well, and then he got rolled up on. Probably our best offensive lineman.
He's our only Pro Bowl offensive lineman. He is now out with an ACL.
That sucks.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 5 we saw the emergence in the last couple weeks of playoff Diami.

Speaker 5 So Diami Brown is absolutely, the story behind him is wild. So Grant Paulson tweeted out these stats.
Diami Brown went four years in the NFL without catching five passes in a game.

Speaker 1 Jeez.

Speaker 5 Not once over four seasons did he do it. In the last two games, in the playoffs, five catches, 89 yards, and a touchdown, six catches, 98 yards.
And this is going up against Amon Ross St.

Speaker 5 Brown, who is a great receiver. That talked shit about Diami.
I think that was last year, being like, tell me how many catches this guy has. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, I think he might have been drafted ahead of him. So that's one of the guys that he remembers on that list.
But playoff Diamond is a different guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And that drop in the bucket that Jaden had to him on that post-route while he was blindfolded with the hand of the defender.

Speaker 5 Just absolutely incredible stuff.

Speaker 1 And DeAmi Brown, like what you just, all the stats you just said, that really goes back to what I was saying with Jaden Daniel being special.

Speaker 1 And you know, when you're watching a special quarterback because he just elevates every single person. Yeah.
Like every single person plays better. The line blocks better.
Running backs run harder.

Speaker 1 Just everything looks better because of that guy. And I know that's oversimplifying it, but I truly believe it.
That's why it's the most important position in all of American sports.

Speaker 5 Yeah, like the culture and the GM and the head coach and the belief in yourself, like none of that means shit unless you have a special quarterback. And that's the biggest part of the equation.

Speaker 5 But yeah, I love Dan Quinn. I love Jayden Daniels.
I love Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 5 I'm so happy for him every time he does something that stands out because it's like this guy has been a great, great wide receiver for some really shitty quarterbacks. So it's fun seeing him.

Speaker 5 And just saying the words, the Washington Commanders are in the NFC Championship game. It's crazy.
I feel like I died. I feel like I'm a dead person, and this is the sixth sense, or I'm in heaven.

Speaker 5 Hopefully, I mean, if I'm in heaven, cool. That rocks.
Tommies were there, too. So it's like win-win.
But yeah, I feel like I'm dead, and this is something that's not real that's happening.

Speaker 5 I'd never, never thought that this would happen this quickly.

Speaker 5 But yeah, if you have a shitty owner, just all you have to do is protest for 20 years, have him found culpable for sexual harassment via multiple investigations, have him be investigated for cooking the books and stealing money from the other owners, and then maybe you'll end up getting him out, too.

Speaker 1 Because you agree with this statement, because what I was saying was if the Bears, like revisionist history, if the Bears had drafted Jaden Danos, I think he would not have had this rookie year because he would have been on the Bears, and we had Iber Fluis as a coach, and all this turmoil and all this shit and offensive line, all that crap.

Speaker 1 Like, I just don't think it would have gone the same way. Just like that, if Dan Snyder still owns a team, you guys aren't in the NFC.

Speaker 5 No, this happens. No, if Dan Snyder owns a team, the field goal last week is missing by 40 yards.
The circumstance and everything around it never even gets to the holder.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it matters so much.

Speaker 5 The Hail Mary would have never happened if it were Dan Snyder that owned the team. You don't get good luck on your side if you have a shitty owner.

Speaker 1 I'd say the one good thing.

Speaker 5 I do think he watched the game. Yeah,

Speaker 5 I hope that he watched the game, and I hope he's so fucking pissed off.

Speaker 5 I hope you're just miserable right now, Dan, wherever you are. Fuck you.

Speaker 1 It would be hard not to watch football.

Speaker 5 Yeah, even if it's a team that you used to own.

Speaker 1 I also will, one spin zone, because obviously, you know, the Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams, and my own personal hell, it does mask the fact that Dan Quinn also was a finalist for the Bears head coaching job.

Speaker 1 And they were like, nah, Iberflues.

Speaker 5 I think he was the last person hired.

Speaker 1 They flew him commercial.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.
He was the last coach hired.

Speaker 1 He was commercial middle seat.

Speaker 1 And let this show. That masks that whole thing.

Speaker 5 Let this also show for the record that in case you were somehow a fucking moron and you thought that me and Big Cat no ball,

Speaker 5 Dan Quinn was the last guy on my list. Yeah.
I did doubt Dan Quinn. I wanted Ben Johnson last year.

Speaker 1 Hopefully that happens for me with Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 5 I wanted Ben Johnson last year, and guess what happened? I didn't get Ben Johnson. I was upset.
Instead, I got Dan Quinn. What does Dan Quinn do? He goes and he beats Ben Johnson in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And he gets Cliff Kingsbury.

Speaker 1 And that was so huge because Cliff Kingsbury has done an incredible job of basically making sure that a rookie quarterback is in the perfect spot to succeed.

Speaker 1 Essentially everything that I said that was wrong in the offseason just applied to Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 5 You know what's crazy is I'm a fucking moron. That this game probably should have been 45 to 24 instead of 45 to 31.
There was the Phantom face mask penalty that they called that was not a face mask.

Speaker 5 Extended that drive that was on third down, third and long. They would have punted that ball away.
and they ended up scoring a touchdown off it.

Speaker 1 Now, if we're going to do what ifs, I have one question for you.

Speaker 1 That was a crazy hit on Jared Goff on the pick six.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but also.

Speaker 1 And he might have been concussed.

Speaker 5 But also, Jared was kind of engaged with a different defender. And Luvu came in.
It was a little bit high, but it was like by the way.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm just saying it's crazy in the fact that quarterbacks don't, like, usually that's a flag. Yeah.
That's you. Max.
No. That's a flag, Max.
Yes. Yeah, that's definitely a.
All right. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You agree with me. Wait.

Speaker 5 So what I'm saying is it might be.

Speaker 1 But he went

Speaker 1 crazy. It might be a flag.
All right. I thought you were disagreeing with me.
That was a crazy hit.

Speaker 5 It might be a flag, but also Newton shoved him at the last second, so the target moves.

Speaker 1 I mean, he launched into him.

Speaker 1 This is crazy. Jared Goff probably got...

Speaker 1 Listen, Jared Goff played a bad game. We love Jared.
He's a friend of the show, been a friend of the show since the beginning of this show. He had a bad game.
He was careless with the ball.

Speaker 1 I wonder if he got concussed there because he did go back to the locker room and he got fucking wrecked on this play. Yeah.
And that is usually, that's flagged almost all the time.

Speaker 1 Like when you hit a quarterback like that after a pick,

Speaker 1 that's a flag. I mean, that's Mahomes.
That's jail if you do that to Mahomes. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Drop a bomb on you.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say, Max? Throw a grenade at some point. No, I mean, Memes told me to bring this up earlier because he was like, you have to play.
Oh, I was always going to bring it up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. No, that was that.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if he got concussed or not. Like, he obviously threw that pick before that hit, so he was not playing great before that hit, but he didn't play great after either.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I don't think it made a difference in the game. No.

Speaker 1 No. The Lions were never winning that game.
But that was like, that was a crazy hit. That was a crazy hit.
Yeah, so it's, I mean, if they didn't, the, the, the trick play interception, like, that was,

Speaker 1 that was a 10-point game. If they scored a touchdown on that drive, they easily could have won the game.
Where the Lions really lost the game, J-Mo lost the game for them.

Speaker 1 And I, like, it sucks because I like watching Jamison Williams play football, and he's electric, but, and he had that incredible run.

Speaker 1 But Jamison Williams lost this game for them in two different ways. And Jared Goff, obviously, deserves in the the defense, all that stuff, which we can get to all the Lions stuff.

Speaker 1 But I thought the Jameson Williams trick play where he threw the ball, just don't

Speaker 1 throw it out of bounds. I don't know, do something else.
And then I actually thought in the end of the first half was where the Lions really

Speaker 1 kind of lost the game because they're going down to score and Jared throws a pass to Jameson Williams in the end zone that gets intercepted. And that was like...

Speaker 1 Maybe Jameson Williams being a younger receiver where a savvy vet, you slow down and let the cornerback make contact through you and you get a flag.

Speaker 1 Like, he kind of wasn't strong enough on the ball there, and the cornerback made a great play. And that was maybe

Speaker 1 the Lions are down three going in the half, and now they're down 10 and they don't get the ball.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I thought that was a great play by Sandra Strillon. That way, he kind of undercut the route.
Yeah, but

Speaker 1 he just wasn't strong enough to the ball. You know what I mean? Like, he, like, a vet receiver is stronger to the ball there than Jameson Williams.

Speaker 5 And then he kind of mentally checked out in the second half.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So,

Speaker 1 but we should talk about the Lions.

Speaker 1 That was about as devastating of a loss as you can have for a team. Now,

Speaker 1 you have a season that's a dream season in terms of record and 15 wins and number one seed for the first time in franchise history.

Speaker 1 But the defensive injuries, and I know, listen, everyone gets injured. I saw the depth chart.
Did you see that?

Speaker 1 That they basically, I'm going to look it up real quick. I think I bookmarked it.
The Lions, because they lost to Meek Robertson in the first quarter of the game, and he's obviously a very important.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so here it is. So they had,

Speaker 1 by the end of this game, they were out one, two, three, four, five, six week one starters on defense,

Speaker 1 and then one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven backups. And

Speaker 1 what is that?

Speaker 1 Four of them were they lost the starter and the backup. They had basically no one playing defense at the end of the game.

Speaker 1 So I do feel bad in that respect because that's just the shittiest,

Speaker 1 the shittiest luck with injuries on defense that you could possibly have.

Speaker 5 It's actually pretty remarkable that they got this far and they got the buy in the one seat. Like, they did a great job.

Speaker 5 Aaron Glenn did a great job getting every single bit that they could have gotten out of the players that they had.

Speaker 5 By the time you're on like the third string at multiple positions, it's going to be tough no matter who is going to coach you up. But they did a good job this season.
It just, it ran too thin. Yeah.

Speaker 5 They just didn't have anybody back there.

Speaker 1 And now you have a Lions

Speaker 1 franchise that's kind of at a crossroads because you're going to lose your offensive corner. You're going to lose your defensive corner.
Most likely your defensive corner.

Speaker 1 Schefter already reported that Ben Johnson will take a head coaching job between the Raiders, the Jaguars, or the Bears.

Speaker 1 And you just won 15 games. You come off an NFC Championship appearance last year.
You climbed back to the mountain. You could see it in Dan Campbell's post-game press conference.
He was crying.

Speaker 1 He was very emotional. He took all the blame.

Speaker 1 Again, I think it's when you look at the blame pie for the Lions, Jared had a really bad game at the worst time, and their defense couldn't withstand the amount of injuries they had.

Speaker 1 And Jaden Daniels is special.

Speaker 1 Our friend Detroit Dodd did hit me up. He said,

Speaker 1 this was at midnight on Saturday night. He said, I'm staying off social media for a month.
See you on the backside. Me and Superfan are sick.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you could see it. They were showing the Lions fans at the end of the game, and it was just shock and disbelief.

Speaker 1 And they, I mean, the first time in franchise history that they have the path goes through to Detroit and to have that happen where

Speaker 1 it wasn't a fluke. It wasn't like a crazy, you know, bounce off a helmet.
It wasn't a Hail Mary. It was, the commanders were better.

Speaker 5 They had all the guys from Detroit. They had Calvin Johnson there.
They had Barry Sanders. They had, they pulled out all the stops.
It felt like this was going to be the Lions year, if there was one.

Speaker 5 And Dan Campbell seemed to have the team just humming. Like they were, they were playing with the same intensity in that game against the Vikings that you saw.

Speaker 5 out of week one out of the lions it was a pretty incredible season for them but you're not going to remember the incredible season you're going to remember this is the team that that should have gone farther how quickly is the

Speaker 1 storyline going to be that like Dan Campbell pushes too hard and the practices are too hard and that's why they're injured so much?

Speaker 5 I actually think there will be a different story before that one. Okay.
The story before that one will be

Speaker 5 did Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn lose focus on this game because they were doing interviews

Speaker 5 going into this week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Ben Johnson didn't have his best game, although the double shovel pass was awesome.

Speaker 5 That was a great play.

Speaker 1 That was an incredible play. But yeah, the trick play to J-Mo was

Speaker 1 baffling. And don't get me wrong.
And they were were just running it. They didn't need it.

Speaker 1 It just run Jameer Gibbs.

Speaker 1 I know David Montgomery came back faster than anyone ever expected. Jameer Gibbs is such an insane talent.

Speaker 1 And the way he runs and how fast he is and his vision just run the whole game through Jameer Gibbs.

Speaker 5 In the first half, it was like he was averaging 15 yards a carry.

Speaker 5 It was crazy. The fact that they went away from him was nuts.
The commanders also did get a little bit of luck on their side.

Speaker 5 They had, like you mentioned, okay, there's a call that probably should have been made.

Speaker 5 There was also a route that Amon Ra just slipped on when he would have been wide open for a first down on an important drive. So, yeah, there's luck.

Speaker 1 You can't,

Speaker 1 that happens every game. There's breaks.

Speaker 5 There's a game of inches. There's breaks that you get.
And fortunately, we got more breaks. And I think we were the better team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you absolutely were. And Jaden Daniels significantly outplayed Jared.
Like, that's just a fact.

Speaker 1 You can't sugarcoat it or do anything.

Speaker 5 I thought that there was a pretty interesting stat. This is the first time that a Josh Harris-owned team has gotten past the second round of the playoffs.
Oh, isn't that interesting? Wow.

Speaker 1 Whoa. How many teams does he have? Yeah, what are the teams?

Speaker 5 Well, he owns the Devils, the New Jersey Devils, and then I believe he owns a basketball team. I think it's the Sixers.

Speaker 1 Oh. He's been doing that for a while, right?

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's had Sixers.

Speaker 1 And they haven't gotten to the.

Speaker 1 They haven't. We're talking football here.
No, but

Speaker 5 yeah, Josh Harris is the owner of the. Keep talking shit.

Speaker 1 Keep talking shit. We'll see you next week.
Washington Commanders. Oh, this is, I can't wait.

Speaker 5 He's the owner of the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 1 I don't want to talk commanders eagles until after we talk all the games but then i wanted to no i i just want to remind

Speaker 1 it while he's talking shit who he where he has to go next

Speaker 1 what's going to win the nba championship that was just a fact what where was the shit he was just doing

Speaker 1 i'm happy for josh

Speaker 5 talk i'm a fan of josh harris and i'm happy that he's owning a team that's that's living up to his ability as an owner that was no that was just a stat he just did a stat okay and everything jaden daniels has done for the city i'm so glad that he was able to to help Josh out in that same way.

Speaker 5 Josh is a DC area guy.

Speaker 1 That was just a stat.

Speaker 5 Josh Harris, thank you for everything that you've done for the city.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for you, PFT. Get ready for Washington.
Get ready for the longest week of your life, though. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Listen, I'm taking today to celebrate just like we won a game. Today I'm going to celebrate.
I'm going to enjoy the victory. And then starting Monday, guess what?

Speaker 1 Back to work. I'm not celebrating for the record.
Oh,

Speaker 1 I am doing zero celebrating. Back to work.
Okay.

Speaker 5 Sometimes you got to stop and smell the roses. And you're saying, act like you've been there before.
I have not been here before.

Speaker 5 I'm going to enjoy a day. I'm giving myself a day.

Speaker 1 And guess what?

Speaker 5 You're not going to see me anymore locked in. You better fucking believe I'm doing a hype video again on Friday.
And it's going to kick the shit out of the last one that I did.

Speaker 1 There was rumors it might be Freebird, which is like nine minutes long. Yeah.
I'll have to talk to

Speaker 1 Quig's about that.

Speaker 5 I haven't decided.

Speaker 5 What's your schedule, Quakes?

Speaker 1 Have not made a final choice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Advisor's done. He's got the time.

Speaker 5 I haven't made a final choice on what song is going to be the soundtrack, but Free Bird is one of the names that's in the hat right now.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for you, too, PFT. I'm happy that I also made the decision to let go of

Speaker 1 just trying to fight it. Yeah.
Like a month ago. I just had to do it because it's better for my mental health.
And because it was like one of those things where people would text me.

Speaker 1 I think I got in a fight with SVP on text

Speaker 1 about a month ago, and I was like, what are you doing, dude? Like, Caleb, I still think he could be great, but he had a disaster.

Speaker 1 Like, the Bears were a disaster this year, and Jaden Daniels is special. Just let go.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and the way I look at it, I honestly don't care if you're upset or not.

Speaker 1 There are a lot of people. No, but I'm not.
Yeah. Like, that's the thing.
I know people are going to be like, oh, he's so upset. He mentions it.
I literally have.

Speaker 1 Jaden Daniels is so much fun to watch.

Speaker 5 Listen, to me, I'm not. There are people that are also out there like, oh, you know that Big Cat's so mad at you right now.

Speaker 1 I want to be perfectly clear.

Speaker 5 I'm enjoying this. The thought of whether Big Cat is enjoying my success does not ever enter my brain.
Correct. I do not give a shit about that.

Speaker 5 I'm going to love what's happening to my team because it's a miracle what I'm seeing from the Washington.

Speaker 5 The Commanders are in the NFC championship game.

Speaker 1 I do think that the, I mean, we, you know, our words get dissected over a million times. I do think people would have noticed that I have had a shift in

Speaker 1 general vibe just because

Speaker 1 it's fun to watch Jaden Daniels play football. And I'm not going to rob myself of having fun watching someone play football, just thinking about what could be.

Speaker 1 Because, again, Jaden Daniels would have sucked if he was on the Bears. Yeah.
He just would have. And Kale Williams would be here.

Speaker 5 I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't go that far. I don't fucking know.

Speaker 5 I had Jaden number one on my big board. Glad that we got our top guy.
We had him tagged as a commander going to the draft. We only gave out three commanders tags.
That's true. He got one of them.

Speaker 5 So I had him number one.

Speaker 1 By the way, the NFC North, most regular season wins, 45 with zero playoff wins.

Speaker 5 The NFC Beast is back.

Speaker 1 Bears had just as many playoff wins as the the rest of the division. Yep, that's a fact.
Also tied for the most wins in 2025.

Speaker 1 One to one with the Lions. Yep.

Speaker 5 Who do you think had a worse time watching this week in Slate? Cowboys fans?

Speaker 5 Because you've got their former defensive coordinator, Dan Quinn, and then you've got their former offensive coordinator, Kellen Moore, winning.

Speaker 5 Also, Jaden Daniels just tied Dak Prescott for most career playoff wins.

Speaker 5 I guess

Speaker 5 Jaden Daniels now has as as many career playoff wins as Dan Snyder, too, which is pretty cool. Do you think they had a worse time or Giants fans watching Saquon?

Speaker 1 Lions fans.

Speaker 5 Lions fans. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not. I don't feel bad for Lions fans because they're in the division and they've talked a lot of shit.
I do feel bad for Detroit Dunn and Superfan. Yeah.
Those two guys specifically, I think.

Speaker 1 I feel bad for Lions Sprinkles. I feel bad for Lions fans.

Speaker 1 Tortured fan bases will always have a soft spot in my heart.

Speaker 1 And I feel bad. I feel bad for Sprinkles.

Speaker 5 I don't feel bad that we won the game, but I feel for Lions fans. And I feel bad for Dinkles.

Speaker 1 When you have a season like that and you have the bye week,

Speaker 1 you're not even thinking about the divisional round. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what, like, they got hit in the mouth and they didn't realize it till like probably halfway through the third quarter.

Speaker 1 It's just their D, like, their defense was just so, so broken. They had no names.
They had guys who didn't practice, who just showed up and had to play in a divisional round playoff game.

Speaker 5 So the top seeds are now 12 and 8 in their first playoff games in the divisional rounds. So getting the bye doesn't, it's not that great.

Speaker 1 No. No.
I got to say it. Say it.
I got to say it. Say it.
We love Dan Campbell. We can't say it.
We can't keep saying the winner thing. We can't.
I didn't say winner. When did I say winner?

Speaker 1 But when did I say it now? Did I say winner? We haven't. But I didn't say it.
Did I say it?

Speaker 1 You had to say it. I had to say it.
But I mean, we didn't

Speaker 1 call him a week. We've had this back and forth for the past two years.
Yeah, I mean, he was a winner this year, but

Speaker 1 he's not a winner for this game. The team wasn't ready.
Correct. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 That's all we have to say. I had to address it.

Speaker 5 What, did we say that Dan Campbell is a winner? Do we say that a lot?

Speaker 1 Well, I had the argument that you can't keep calling him a winner.

Speaker 1 Until he wins in the playoffs. But he did go to the NFC Championship game last year.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 5 And during the season, he was winning a lot of football games.

Speaker 1 Correct, but that doesn't make someone a winner. Winning regular Championships.
But we didn't call him a winner.

Speaker 1 Like, imagine if we had started this and been like, all right, PFT, hold on a second. But you said it you said.

Speaker 1 I know you want to talk about the commanders being the NFC championship game, but I'd first like to say Dan Campbell's a winner.

Speaker 5 I also don't think that we've had long, extended conversations about what it is.

Speaker 1 We had that one debate

Speaker 1 where he was like, you can't say he's a winner until he wins in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I still think Dan Campbell is a very good coach,

Speaker 1 but that's something that we talked about, and he's got to win in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I think grading it on a curve, Dan Campbell's a winner because he changed the complete culture of the Detroit Lions. The Detroit Lions.
That's fair. It's fair.

Speaker 1 The entire culture and performance of the Detroit Lions, a franchise that just there's

Speaker 1 besides the Cleveland Browns, they're the franchise. You'd never say winning in the Detroit Lions.
And he made that a

Speaker 1 real thing that happened the last couple of years. He's not a winner today.

Speaker 1 They lost. He wasn't ready.

Speaker 5 How many playoff games would we need to win to become a winner in your eyes?

Speaker 1 Super Bowl. That's what I said.
Okay. That's what I said the first time.
I'm happy you addressed that because I was worried. There's a lot of people out there.

Speaker 1 I was worried

Speaker 1 that someone was going to be like, hey, why didn't they talk about Dan Campbell? Well,

Speaker 1 we're going to, whatever.

Speaker 5 Dan Campbell did not have his team ready to play. Yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 Yeah. People are, you know.

Speaker 1 There was a lot of blame, a lot of blame to Ben Johnson. A lot of blame the.

Speaker 1 I said that Dan Campbell. I'm pretty sure I said that.
If I didn't, I'm sorry. Dan Campbell got out coached.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank?

Speaker 1 What? Are you happy he said that? He had to say it. I had to say it.
I had to say it.

Speaker 5 National Sports Podcast.

Speaker 1 I do think Dan Campbell's a very good coach, but I wanted to. I don't know.

Speaker 1 He didn't have his guys ready to play at all. I do think that anyone who makes the Lions a 15-win team

Speaker 1 by nature is a winner.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's a pretty tough thing. Like, that's almost impossible.
Getting a buy, top seed.

Speaker 1 I mean, the most wins in franchise history.

Speaker 5 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 So let me ask you a question.

Speaker 5 Are you, if you're a Lions fan, has the thought entered your head at all? Like, maybe Dan Campbell's the problem? Should we fight?

Speaker 1 If you're a Lions fan, are you thinking what? If you're a Lions fan, are you like

Speaker 1 crucified on the show when I said that you can't call him a winner until he wins in the playoffs? He has won in the playoffs. He has

Speaker 5 a championship game. But

Speaker 1 that doesn't make you a winner. Winning a playoff game does not make you a winner.

Speaker 1 Until he wins in the playoffs, but he has won it. But he hasn't won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Well, a lot of coaches haven't won a Super Bowl. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Should Lions fans think about Dan Campbell being fired? No, that's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 He's not a winner. And you need a winner to win.
That's true. I'm not even saying that he's not a winner.
I'll tell you what. I'm not even saying that he's not a winner.
All I'm saying is that.

Speaker 1 You literally said it has to be said. No, but it has to be.
Yes, it has to be said because we add this to the coin. So you are saying it.
No, I'm not saying that he's.

Speaker 1 I'm just not giving him the label of Dan Campbell winner. So that would imply that he's not going to be aware

Speaker 1 Dan Campbell loser either. So what is he? He's just not

Speaker 1 a queen. He's just good coach.
He's a good coach. He's a good coach.

Speaker 1 But not a winner.

Speaker 1 He's not labeled winner. Is Jaden Daniels a winner?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 we haven't seen him lose. Yeah, but he hasn't won a Super Bowl.
He hasn't won a winner. He hasn't seen him lose in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 He hasn't won a Super Bowl, so Andy Reid was not a winner until he went to Kansas City.

Speaker 1 That was literally the big thing of Andy Deid.

Speaker 1 But Jaden Daniels is not a winner.

Speaker 1 That was it.

Speaker 1 Josh allen's that actually made my argument perfect yeah that that hurt josh allen and lamar jackson not winners correct jaden daniels not a winner not yet i don't know why all of us i'm asking

Speaker 5 but he might turn he might turn into a loser next week you correct we never know i'm it happens that fast i mean i

Speaker 1 we this is just a different discourse for different people

Speaker 1 so happy you brought this up

Speaker 1 i want someone to tweet and be like i was waiting for max to say that

Speaker 5 Max, does this have anything to do with the fact that

Speaker 1 memes was back here with me? Speak up.

Speaker 5 Does this have anything to do with

Speaker 1 the fact that... I told him to take notes and then bring it up in the Eagles.

Speaker 5 Does this have anything to do with the fact that we give credit to Dan Campbell for going forward on fourth downs?

Speaker 1 Well, yes, this is basically the same. This is an exact card.
So we're on Slavic.

Speaker 1 We're going to call Nick Siriani a loser and Dan Campbell a winner.

Speaker 1 You gave us the right to call Nick Siriani a loser by calling him a loser.

Speaker 1 Fair. But now I don't think so.

Speaker 1 But he's not won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 He's also not a winner.

Speaker 1 He's in the middle category. He's coach.
He's good coach.

Speaker 1 Both in the same category of I had I wrote down praise for Nick Siriani. It's coming, buddy.
All right, we'll get to it. You shouldn't have jumped the gun.
I had praise for you.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I shouldn't have said anything.

Speaker 1 I shouldn't have said anything. I liked it.
I liked it. Fired up.

Speaker 5 I like it, Max.

Speaker 1 We shouldn't have said anything. I would say Dan Kimball's still a winner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would agree. I would agree with that.
Bad game.

Speaker 1 I had a bad game.

Speaker 1 Team wasn't ready. They got punched in the mouth.

Speaker 1 They're supposed to be the tougher team that punches other teams in the mouth, biting kneecaps, all that shit. That was a bad, like, he just, they weren't ready.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 yeah, but he is a winner. This is what Memes really wants to talk about, his PFT fucking the floor.
He was doing the J-Mo. I did the J-Mo.
Yeah, I know. That was great.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Jameson Williams caught the touchdown, fucked the carpet, didn't get a flag for it. He was having sex with the ground at Ford Field.

Speaker 5 So the first thing I thought about was, yeah, fuck that carpet.

Speaker 1 Also very funny because PFT was wearing an outrageous,

Speaker 1 for the outsiders, an outrageous

Speaker 1 jumpsuit, Washington Commander's jumpsuit. And Coach Gruden even said to me, he's like, Can you believe what this guy's wearing today?

Speaker 1 And I had to look and be like, oh, yeah, I guess for you, that would be weird. I was like, that's...
I didn't flinch when PFT walked in with that on.

Speaker 5 Number one, it's jumpsuit January. Number two, that's a commander's jumpsuit.
Yep. Number three, I've worn that jumpsuit before.
Yeah. So I've broken it in a little bit.

Speaker 5 But yeah, I mean, it's the playoffs. You have to pull out all the stops for the playoffs.

Speaker 1 There's really nothing besides if you walked in with like new tuxedo

Speaker 1 that I would be shocked.

Speaker 5 If I wear a collared shirt, people are like, you have court later, don't you?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm like, who died? That was the most average PFT outfit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, shocked. The fact that anyone was saying anything.
Well, Gruden doesn't know.

Speaker 1 So he was like, can you believe this? I was like, yeah, no, I can. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 5 And Gruden, he hates the Commanders. I probably would hate the Commanders if I were him, too.
Yes.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 5 I converted him like halfway through the second quarter. He's like, I can't root against this guy anymore.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. James, if you are rooting against, obviously, if you're an Eagles fan, but if you're a neutral party,

Speaker 1 it's way more fun, especially if you're a neutral party and you're, you know, a Bears fan who has Caleb Williams, like myself.

Speaker 1 If you're a neutral party, though, it's a lot more fun to just let go and be like,

Speaker 1 he's awesome to watch because he is. He's awesome to watch.
And that was a very fun game.

Speaker 5 I would say even probably like 50% of Eagles fans are kind of rooting for Jaden Daniels this weekend because he's that fun to watch. And there's some

Speaker 5 city known for their sportsmanship. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd say most Eagles fans are like, damn, he's so much fun to watch.

Speaker 5 They'd probably be a little bit happy if they lost the game. They'd be like, you know what? I want to see that guy play in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 That is incorrect. I will say,

Speaker 1 no notes for Jaden Daniels this week. He was incredible.
He's really fucking good. And the Eagles better win now because I'm scared that that guy is going to that.

Speaker 1 I'm officially scared that he is around for the rest of my life. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He is that good. Yeah.
Max.

Speaker 1 I hope you live

Speaker 1 fast. I hope you live more than 45.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Max. Eagles 28.
Rams 22.

Speaker 1 Saquon Barkley. That's it.
Saquon Barkley. I mean, obviously the Eagles defense as well, which I want to talk about, but Saquon Barkley is so fucking good.

Speaker 1 Saquon Barkley had, that was his sixth touchdown of 60-plus yards. Four of the six have come against the Rams.
He had

Speaker 1 534 total yards is the most a player's ever had against another opponent in a season. And he only played the Rams twice.
Think about that. He only played him twice.

Speaker 1 He had 534 total yards of scrimmage from scrimmage.

Speaker 1 The run in the first half, the run to end the game. He is so goddamn good.
And Max, did you see that clip, which was one of the coolest things I've ever seen before the 78-yard touchdown?

Speaker 1 He turned to Jalen Hurts. They did a mouth reading.
He said, watch this. He just knew what was going to happen, and he ripped off a 78-yard run.

Speaker 1 And the Eagles are back in the NFC championship game. Nick Siriani,

Speaker 1 really good coach, winner. Nick Siriani is now 3-0 versus Sean McVay.

Speaker 1 Nick Siriani is 8-0 versus Sean McVay, Matt LaFleur, and Dan Campbell.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. It's a winner.
Those are three coaches that everyone's, you know, like, hey, coach of the years and everything, Super Bowl coach and Sean McVay. He's 8-0 against those guys.

Speaker 1 That's a winner. I may jump the gun a little bit here.
Why? The whole thing. I mean, yeah, you didn't know I had that.

Speaker 1 Yep, I may have jumped the gun. I was going to be praising Nick Siri.
I may have jumped the gun a little bit here. That's fair.
That's fair. Sometimes you got to.
You had to say that.

Speaker 1 I had Dan Campbell in the stat.

Speaker 1 Yep, that's on me. That's on me.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I get a little excited. Oh, that's fair.

Speaker 1 Well, it's more so, whatever. It had to to be said.
We'll get to it. It had to be said.
It had to be said.

Speaker 5 And to be fair, he's beaten a bunch of losers.

Speaker 1 But it had to be said. That's on me.
That's on me. Those three coaches, you would say, if you're like, hey, who are the top three coaches in the NFC? I mean, maybe you throw in Kyle Shanahan as well.

Speaker 1 But those are three names that come up. And Nick Siriani has not lost to any of those guys.
He's 8-0. And the Eagles,

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts gets hurt. I don't know what his status is, Max.
Can you tell us? Also, shout out Mother Nature because she showed up at the perfect time.

Speaker 5 Got a great snow game, yeah.

Speaker 1 Kurt Warner was sick. I love it.

Speaker 5 I love it when playoff games are half not in the snow and then the second half in the snow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gruden kind of was, we were watching the game with Gruden, and he kind of had the same take as Kurt Warner. Really? Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's like, wait, play Kurt Warner's take because he still fights this all the time. This is from our show.

Speaker 1 I get it.

Speaker 9 What everybody says, it's football weather. This is what it is.
But here's the problem that I have. And it doesn't necessarily apply to these two teams.

Speaker 9 But being a guy that played in a dome, being a guy that played in Arizona, I have no way to get ready for those conditions.

Speaker 9 And so you can say all you want about home field advantage, and that's why you play.

Speaker 9 Well, no, because the Patriots can come to Arizona, and there's no difference other than we have our fans, obviously, but they can play in my weather.

Speaker 9 I can't play in their weather because I can't get used to it.

Speaker 9 There's nothing you can do to get used to cold weather in a situation. So to me, I'm just like, I want the best.
I want to be able to be my best. I want to play against their best.

Speaker 9 And I want the best to advance. And so for me, last night, I mean,

Speaker 9 I played in that weather before. I grew up in Iowa, so I played in all that stuff.
I feel like it's just like Bass kicking that ball. I'm sure when he kicked it, he was like, oh, that's money.

Speaker 9 That's right down the middle. This is taking

Speaker 9 even more mad.

Speaker 1 He's just like, it's not fair.

Speaker 5 I think it's a fair point to say, I can't simulate practicing in the snow. Of course.
But this is also where you're going to be able to get a single- Get homefield advantage.

Speaker 5 Yeah, number one, win more games. Number two,

Speaker 5 I don't really give a shit because I love watching snow football on TV. It's one of the weird things.
Like the NFL is a weird sport.

Speaker 5 You have to be able to respond to different things that you don't expect happening, and you have to be able to deal with shit. Yeah.
And just as a fan watching on TV, do not take away my snow games.

Speaker 5 I love watching snow football because you think back to when you were a kid and you're like, oh, I would be so good out in the snow. I was unstoppable in my backyard when it snowed outside.

Speaker 5 I don't give a shit that Kurt Warner thinks it's unfair. I think it's the best thing.

Speaker 1 And the snow fucked up the Rams because it was, I mean, they fumbled.

Speaker 1 The Eagles didn't fumble.

Speaker 5 Matt Stafford looked like he didn't want to be out there for the entire third quarter.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They did.
By the way, the Eagles also didn't really love playing on it. Did you see Josh Schwetz

Speaker 1 quote after he said, ass. playing on the snow today.
That's what he said, ass. He said, I'd rather play on the shitty Brazil field before playing playing on that again.
I ain't going to lie to you.

Speaker 1 I like that quote. Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's ass. I'm fine with the players thinking that it's ass.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 this game was very tight at the end. But the Eagles, they did the thing that they are built around.
Their offensive line mauled. Saquon Barkley was special, and their defense was incredible.

Speaker 5 Jalen Carter.

Speaker 1 Jalen Carter was insane.

Speaker 5 The guy scares me.

Speaker 1 He was so good.

Speaker 1 He had five tackles, five pressures, three QB hits, two sacks, two fumbles or two to uh uh one force fumble and two tackles for a loss and he made the biggest play like the vic fangio is obviously deserves a lot of credit as well because what he was doing in that game when uh i think it was around the second quarter they started stunting and you could see stafford was like it was fucking stafford up because he'd try to step up and there'd be a guy in his face and then on that that uh second what was it third and two third and two on the 13 yard line with a minute and change left.

Speaker 1 They faked a stunt, and that's where Jalen Carter just basically blew right by his guy because he tried to pass him off. And that was the game.

Speaker 1 Like, that sack saved the Eagles' season because I do think, if you even watch that play, Tyler Higbee was wide open. He had beaten his guy.

Speaker 1 Tyler Higbee was going to catch that ball, maybe even score on that play, and Jalen Carter made the play and saved their season.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they got dudes up front that will just wreck your shit constantly. Yeah.

Speaker 5 The defensive line scares me on the Eagles very much.

Speaker 5 And then when they're not getting cute, when they decide, okay, we're just going to hand the ball to Saquon because he's the best, and we're going to let our offensive line do what our offensive line does the best, then they're almost impossible to stop.

Speaker 5 I don't know how you slow them down. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Have you let go of Jalen Carter, too? That one's totally different because you can't say the Bears don't address offensive line.

Speaker 1 and be like, we should have taken Jalen Carter, but then we also took Darnell Wright in that position, who's a really good offensive lineman, and then got Dexter as well in the second round, who's a really good.

Speaker 1 He's not Jalen Carter, but you can't criticize the Bears for not being like, why didn't you dress off the offensive line? Also, why didn't you take Jalen Carter?

Speaker 1 Without Darnell Wright, he's a really good offensive lineman. You can't have it both ways.
But when you're watching it, you're not like, fuck.

Speaker 1 Honestly, Dexter is really awesome, and I said it at the time.

Speaker 1 Jalen Carter would have been drafted to a locker room that was in complete flux, and he had some character issues, and I don't think it would have worked the same.

Speaker 1 He went to a locker room with Brandon Graham and a bunch of veterans who probably

Speaker 1 Fletcher Cox, who probably helped him a lot. You got to know, like, hey, we have a rebuilding team that sucks ass.
If we draft Jalen Carter, it might not work out.

Speaker 5 You could probably also make a criticism for every other team that picked, that did not take Jalen Carter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was eight picks before.

Speaker 5 CJ Stroud, or who else got drafted before him? I don't know.

Speaker 1 But either way, you got Darnell Wright, who's a really good offensive. He's our best offensive lineman.
So you can't, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 You can't be like, man, they don't do anything for the offensive line. Oh, yeah, you should have taken Jalen Carter.

Speaker 5 So let's see here.

Speaker 5 We got the draft order.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I mean, that's also like the Bears' history. It's like, oh, that guy could have been.
Okay.

Speaker 5 Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud, Will Anderson, great players.
Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 1 Devin. The Cardinals could have used them.

Speaker 5 Witherspoon. Yeah.
Paris Johnson.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Terry Wilson. Yep.
That's probably the one that's really, if you're a Raiders fan, that should have been Jalen Carter.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I mean, Jameer Gibbs went 12th.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and people shit on that pick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 By the way, Saquon Barkley

Speaker 1 wouldn't be a top 30 paid wide receiver.

Speaker 5 That's crazy to say.

Speaker 1 Gabe Davis gets paid more than him.

Speaker 5 It's also, I think it's fair to say that the better your team is, the more you should spend on running back. Yeah, of course.
As like the final piece to make you a great team.

Speaker 5 It's like a tight pair of jeans. Like,

Speaker 5 if you're in really good shape, then yeah, spend a lot of money on tight, fashionable jeans. If you're fat,

Speaker 5 buy Jinkos.

Speaker 1 It's why I have some sympathy for Giants fans who have to fight this fight.

Speaker 1 And yes, you probably should have kept Saquon Barkley, probably shouldn't have paid Daniel Jones, hindsight 2020, although a lot of Giants fans said that in the moment.

Speaker 1 But Saquon Barkley on the Giants this year

Speaker 1 doesn't make the Giants a playoff team. It makes them more fun to watch.
They probably win a couple more games because he's their most explosive player. But you're right.

Speaker 1 Saquon Barkley works

Speaker 1 when it's on a great team, and then he becomes the complete X factor that can dominate these type of playoffs.

Speaker 5 Like, Derrick Henry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 5 If the Cowboys had signed Derrick Henry, who gives a shit? Right. But yeah, on a great camera.

Speaker 1 Derrick Henry's on the Panthers. Not the Panthers deserve credit.

Speaker 1 Derrick Henry's on the Raiders. Yeah.
Doesn't change anything.

Speaker 1 Max, let's hear from you.

Speaker 1 It was a hard fought game. Snow games are tough.
We're kind of built for it. The offensive line was fantastic.

Speaker 1 Those two long touchdown runs,

Speaker 1 yes, Aquan bursts through the line and was, you know, once he gets through, he's gone. But there's huge holes, and those huge holes are from the offensive line just dominating the trenches.

Speaker 1 I'm happy with the win, but we're on the next week.

Speaker 1 The goal is to win a Super Bowl. The goal is to win a Super Bowl in Philadelphia, and I'm happy with taking this step.
That's very good. Can I give you a home game?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you get a home game game game game game.

Speaker 1 Can I give you two stats, Max, that

Speaker 1 might be of use for you

Speaker 1 in terms of online discourse? Sure. Okay.

Speaker 1 Here's the first one.

Speaker 1 The Eagles in the playoffs are 4-0 when Jake Elliott misses an extra point. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Maybe he's missing him on purpose.

Speaker 1 I'm so nervous about him.

Speaker 1 He's nerve-wracking. He's so bad right now.
He's nerve-wracking.

Speaker 1 Here's another one. Jalen Hurts didn't really, I mean, the weather was a big factor.

Speaker 1 He also was banged up. Jalen Hurts in his four playoff wins, 154 yards passing, 121 yards passing, 131 yards passing, 128 yards passing.

Speaker 1 Doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 Is that because they're running the football?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he also does more.

Speaker 1 I know. I'm saying, like, don't.
I'm giving you these stats. Right, yeah, yeah, no.
And he doesn't have to be

Speaker 1 what you know. He had the incredible Super Bowl they lost.
Yep. No, I.

Speaker 1 These are good stats. I agree.
Maybe Jake Elliott might, that one might be a little more precarious, but yeah, yeah. But it's still 4-0.
Right. No, I had the one stat I.
Jake Elliott was going to do.

Speaker 1 Winner. Jake Elliott's a winner.

Speaker 5 He wins games.

Speaker 1 I wish that. Yeah, no, I shouldn't have said this.

Speaker 1 The reason why I said it is is because Eagles fans are so pissed off at Nick Siriani right now because

Speaker 1 for

Speaker 1 the past play on second down when they had the ball where Hurts took the sack.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but on the sliding scale of things that you should be upset with Nick Siriani for, I think, Philly fans are going to be upset about something. Right.

Speaker 1 That was a bad play call. It was.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was a bad play call, but ultimately, I think Siriani, he did the right thing.

Speaker 1 Also, that's Kellen Moore, no? So that, yeah.

Speaker 1 I had this whole thing in my head that

Speaker 1 that was going to be a topic of conversation, and then you were going to blame Tiriani.

Speaker 1 I jumped the gun. Sometimes you jump the gun.

Speaker 5 In the moment, we said, Why are you taking a quarterback that can't run right now, rolling him out to his left, and having him try to escape the pocket and then stop, throw across his body?

Speaker 5 And then we said, That's a weird play call. That's on Kellen Moore, isn't it? We were like, Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 This is the most max thing ever that he had a pre-fight

Speaker 1 with us.

Speaker 1 A hypothetical pre-fight.

Speaker 5 Wait, you want to just let's let's run it back and play into his fantasy. Yeah, but

Speaker 1 he had a hypothetical pre-fight and never in the

Speaker 1 wildest imaginations realized that I actually wrote down pro-Nick Siriani stuff instead of negative Nick. We're so in his head that he's thinking, this is the madman mean.

Speaker 1 Like, we're not even thinking about you, dude. Yeah, no, that's, that's, that's madman.
We're just talking about the games.

Speaker 1 I wish I could rewind time and not have that fight that I had. Instead of enjoying the win, you're just paranoid.
Like, at least BFT is giving giving himself a day to, like, enjoy the win.

Speaker 1 That's why you need to give yourself a mental day. I gave myself an hour.
We've actually caused psychological harm to you. Yes.
Like,

Speaker 1 I will take hand up.

Speaker 1 Everyone in this room should put their hand up. Memes.
Please put your hand up. We have battered.
Peeves just said, what did I do? We have battered this man to the point.

Speaker 1 There are fucking memes that are about me.

Speaker 5 Even Max Face Photoshop says.

Speaker 1 We have battered this man to the point where he is literally fighting his shadow. Yeah, no, I'm a broken man.
And that's the other thing. Like,

Speaker 1 I think Dan Campbell was a good coach. Do you talk to yourself in the shower?

Speaker 5 You're still fighting yourself.

Speaker 1 I know. I think Dan Campbell's a good coach.

Speaker 1 I wish I didn't make that fight. It had to be said, though.
No, I'm actually, I'm so happy you did that because of this moment right here where we just get, we just fully went into Max's mind.

Speaker 1 And Max's mind is just like, it's

Speaker 1 Max

Speaker 1 larger man with his hair up up in a ninja thing. He's got the kimono on and he's got maybe the Donatello stick.
What is that called?

Speaker 5 The kinja stick? Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 1 The kinja stick? Yeah. And he's just kinja sticking all four of us in his brain constantly.

Speaker 1 He's like, oh, I got to get them this, this, this.

Speaker 1 And we're,

Speaker 1 I didn't even think I was in your brain, but I guess I am. Yeah, I need a graphic of that.
You kinja sticking like the four of us

Speaker 5 inside of your brain. Let's see what it's called.

Speaker 1 You want to know another secret yeah

Speaker 1 i had another fight planned in my head as well oh tell us i was going to do blind quarter blind quarterback resumes for the day and then do josh allen stats and jalen hurts's stats never was yeah

Speaker 1 but i've had a positive jalen hurts no i know i mean his touchdown run was awesome i know i know and he got banged up like it was clear that he was in aj brown dropped an easy easy ball that would have made his stats look a little bit different.

Speaker 5 He was a tough dude today.

Speaker 1 He made that one throw to double coverage to A.J. Brown was bad in the end zone.
That was a bad throw. That was a bad decision.
But otherwise,

Speaker 1 he played winning football. He made the plays that he had to play, and he knows that he's got a running back that can do everything.
Do you want to do that fight with him?

Speaker 1 No, thank you. I would prefer for my mentals.

Speaker 5 My next thing was just, I thought the Eagles, I thought they executed well today.

Speaker 5 Sirianni's play calling at times left me with a big question mark.

Speaker 1 On offense and defense.

Speaker 5 Offense and defense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he went into pre. Sirianni went in prevent defense way too early.

Speaker 5 You've got Saquon Barkley as your running back, Nick.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 5 And on second down, when you had the opportunity to ice the game, burn the clock, you're having your injured quarterback roll out to his left, throw across his body. What the fuck are you?

Speaker 5 What kind of play call was that shit? Oh, let me guess.

Speaker 1 Nick, did you, after Saquon Barkley ran a 74-yard touchdown pass, did you look into the camera and point at it? No, I bet he did. That was so sick, dude.

Speaker 5 I bet he did. That was just,

Speaker 5 what goes on in this guy's brain sometimes, it makes me quick.

Speaker 1 He's got shit for brains. Yeah.
He's going to be there undoing.

Speaker 5 Dumbass. Thoughts?

Speaker 1 I would like to pass on this discourse.

Speaker 5 Hank, do you have anything to add?

Speaker 1 It had to be said. I just had it all.
I want you to come and look at my notes after this just so you can see that I literally had it all written down. Yeah, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 The Jalen Hurts, like, people are going to shit on Jalen Hurts. I don't.
He does what he's supposed to do.

Speaker 1 And yeah, there'll be moments where he has to make some more throws, but he was clearly hampered by both snow and injury. Is he going to be okay?

Speaker 1 That's a question, Mark. His answers to that question after the game were not great.

Speaker 5 Why? What were his answers?

Speaker 1 They asked about him. He said, we'll see how the week works.
What was the injury?

Speaker 1 He got squished on his knee. I know.
Was it like a knee sprain? His knee. Also, the hip drop tackle just doesn't exist.
Yeah. Like every single week, there's a hip drop.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm not saying that that should have been called one because they just haven't been calling it at all. But why do they implement that rule into the game if they're just never going to call it?

Speaker 5 Because they wanted to invent something that looked like they were doing something for player safety.

Speaker 5 So they made the most nebulous tackle of all time a penalty, where it's like, nobody, we're probably not even going to enforce it during games because it's impossible to tell what is a hip-drop tackle.

Speaker 5 But if there's somebody that gets injured, we can always find that guy a week later.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's, I mean, it's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is Quinny on Mitchell going to be okay? That seems honestly, which is crazy because Jalen Hurts finished the game. Quinnian Mitchell did not.

Speaker 1 The reports of that is that he will be fine, but Jalen Hurts is still up in the air. Okay.

Speaker 1 If I had to guess, I think I'm optimistic about Quinnian Mitchell. It seems like that it's just a sprain and that he'll be ready to go

Speaker 1 almost at 100% next week. Jalen Hurts,

Speaker 1 if I had to make a guess, and I'm pretty confident in this guess, I think he will be playing at

Speaker 1 probably around 60 to 70%. 70 percent.

Speaker 5 I just want to say for the record, I want the Eagles to be healthy. I want all their starters.
I don't want injuries. Max and I agreed to turn injuries off this week.

Speaker 5 I want the Eagles at their best.

Speaker 1 I also would like to say this:

Speaker 1 I want the Commanders at their best as well. And I take back a lot of the criticism I had towards the Commanders.
They are a worthy opponent, and I'm looking at them.

Speaker 5 I don't know if you can take that back. No, you can't take that back on a lot of things.

Speaker 1 So you want the Commanders at their best.

Speaker 1 Will you apologize for the Brock Purdy injury?

Speaker 1 If I could take back the Brock Purdy injury, I would. Okay, that's a big man of you.
If I could, I would.

Speaker 5 So, Max, we're getting a lot of questions about if we're going to do a hair bet.

Speaker 1 Wait, let's say this for after we talk Bills Ravens. I want to preview the light preview and we can set the stage for you guys

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 I want to do that. We should talk real quick, Rams.
First of all, Jared Verse. I love when people talk shit and then back it up.
He backed it up. He had a great game.

Speaker 1 He said that he hated Philadelphia fans. That was awesome.

Speaker 1 I think the arrow is pointing up for the Rams because they did flip this roster very quickly, but Matthew Stafford's not getting any younger.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I would agree with that.

Speaker 5 They got strong at running back. They've got a great running back now.
Yep. And their defense is awesome.

Speaker 1 This is a tough.

Speaker 1 I mean, Cooper Cup kind of disappeared at the end of the season. He's getting a little older, too.

Speaker 5 He looked okay today, but

Speaker 5 it's more like this is a weird game. This was a very tough tough game for the Rams to win in that environment.

Speaker 5 They almost pulled it out at the end.

Speaker 1 They were a play away.

Speaker 5 You're not happy if you're a Rams fan.

Speaker 5 You're pissed off, but ultimately, I think the big question for Rams fans is: how much older are we going to let Matt Stafford get before we do something about it?

Speaker 5 It's not like Matt Stafford sucks. He doesn't suck.
No. But you have to naturally ask that question.

Speaker 1 They stayed in this game. I mean, it was a nerve-wracking game.
I mean, even that sack.

Speaker 1 Should we talk about the overalls?

Speaker 1 What's the plan? So, for people who didn't watch the stream, we had a couple things working mojo-wise.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the Rams were my pinky team.

Speaker 1 I may be done with the pinky bet because

Speaker 1 that was the most I've been afraid. And I know people are like, they were two games away from the Super Bowl.
The idea of the Rams being able to host an NFC championship game and then

Speaker 1 if a pinky team ever gets the Super Bowl, I'm going to shit myself. I don't know what I'm going to do.
I'm going to be a wreck.

Speaker 5 I think the move is if it's like the Chiefs and the Rams in this year's Super Bowl, then you just bet your dick on the Chiefs. And that way, if the Rams win, at least I only cut my finger off.

Speaker 5 That's true.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. But I might be done with it because it was...

Speaker 5 You're actually playing, you're doing the pinky bet in the safest era to do it in because it's just Patrick Mahomes every year.

Speaker 1 True. But there's just no upside.
It was the moment when I had explained it to Coach Gruden, and he was like, what?

Speaker 1 It really stuck to me. Like,

Speaker 1 why do you do this? But what?

Speaker 1 Listen, I need to, I'm not going to make any rash decisions

Speaker 1 after successfully keeping all 10 of my fingers for another season.

Speaker 1 You know, it's an emotional season, a long season, like Dan Campbell said. So

Speaker 1 I'm not going to do any retirement talk until we maybe get into the offseason.

Speaker 5 You're going to see how you feel after training the camp.

Speaker 1 That was insanely stressful. I think, Max, you felt the stress on me.
But we had, so we had two things. We had

Speaker 1 the TV broke in the gambling cave for the first quarter in the first quarter, and they had to reset it. And I pulled up my phone, and as I pulled up my phone, Jalen Hurst ran for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 And after he ran for a touchdown, the TV came back on and Jake Elliott missed an extra point. So for the rest of the game, I was basically playing a game of should I watch it on my phone?

Speaker 1 Should I not? I went and took a shit and watched it on my phone, and the Rams went three and out, and I was like, there's something about this phone. And then we also had Max overalls.

Speaker 1 He had a sweatshirt on over his overalls. We flipped a coin to see if he should do overalls or not.
Well,

Speaker 1 the chat just started spending a shit ton of money

Speaker 1 for me to do it. And at that point, I felt bad that fans were spending their hard-earned money to see me in the overalls.
So I thought I would give them at least a drive. And then, obviously.

Speaker 1 It was instant safety. Max.
Instant safety. Instant safety.

Speaker 5 Do you think they were spending their hard-earned money in the chat because they wanted to see you win in overalls or they wanted to see you lose in overalls?

Speaker 1 Probably wanted to see me lose, but I respect the fans.

Speaker 1 Max, are you going to be wearing the overalls for the NFC Championship game? See, that's what I don't know because

Speaker 1 I may just need to wear them underneath the sweatshirt again.

Speaker 1 But you call it overalls.

Speaker 1 Overalls. Yeah, so I might be wearing a

Speaker 1 little bit of a drawer. Yeah, you're wearing underalls.
I might be wearing underalls.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 it's kind of if it's not broke, don't fix it. Right.
But it's not. It even went well when I had...

Speaker 1 the underalls

Speaker 5 under my sweatshirt. But you're also wearing underwear.

Speaker 5 So you're wearing underalls over your underwear. You're wearing middles.

Speaker 1 Underalls.

Speaker 1 You're wearing the Dan Campbell of alls.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not. Dan Campbell is a good coach.
I wish I never said that.

Speaker 1 It was pre-anger. It was pre-anger.
Sometimes more potent than just anger. That's right.

Speaker 5 After the game, Max, to his credit, he went right into the weight room, started working out.

Speaker 5 And by working out, I mean just sitting on the bench press, just refreshing Twitter, trying to see if there were any injury news that he could I did end up I think I did I sat there for about an hour and a half and I think I did

Speaker 1 five sets of bench press oh wow which still counts that does count that still counts he probably also was just watching our Twitter to see if we tipped our hand on what angle we were going to no yeah I was watching so many I cannot wait the one thing that I will say about the highlights I cannot wait for the baldy breakdown of how good Jalen Carter was in this game.

Speaker 1 He was incredible. He was so fucking good.
He was incredible.

Speaker 5 I think that scares me because being down, our right guard, our best offensive lineman, that is, it's troubling to think about that. That dude scares me.
Your offensive line scares me too.

Speaker 1 He was insane. He was insane.
Good win.

Speaker 5 Do you see the graphic that memes posted? He's got a memes graveyard.

Speaker 5 So these are memes that he constructs. in anticipation of something potentially happening.
Okay. And then when it doesn't happen, then he has to just throw them by the wayside.

Speaker 5 So there's a big graveyard of memes out there that never get used.

Speaker 5 And the one for the NFC Championship game, if it was going to be Rams versus Commanders, was me for the Commanders and then Big Cat holding up a hand with the pinky cut off

Speaker 5 for the Rams.

Speaker 1 And he also had

Speaker 1 Max

Speaker 1 Sad Max with my face over it.

Speaker 1 Do you see that? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I honestly didn't know that that was your face.

Speaker 5 I thought he was just posting sad max.

Speaker 1 Max, do you want to say anything about the spitting?

Speaker 1 No, that's passion.

Speaker 1 I'll never apologize for that. Good, good.

Speaker 1 Fact.

Speaker 1 Okay, we are going to talk about the matchup and a little preview of what's coming this week. But let's get to the last game before we do that.
Bills 27, Ravens, 25.

Speaker 1 Wow. This was an awesome game.
And

Speaker 1 this is another two things can be true. Lamar had an incredible drive because he won the game.

Speaker 1 Mark Andrews is having probably the worst night of anyone in America right now because he not only fumbled, but he dropped the two-point conversion.

Speaker 1 Lamar had two turnovers, and he hasn't had two turnovers all year. And he now has four games, four of his eight playoff games, has two-plus turnovers.

Speaker 1 I don't want to do the like Lamar sucks and Lamar because he doesn't suck.

Speaker 1 But it's okay to say that he did not play his best when the Ravens needed him to play his best.

Speaker 5 Sometimes it's hard to beat good teams on the road. That's a fact.
And that's what he ran into. Yeah.
And the Ravens, to their credit, they did keep running the ball.

Speaker 5 This is not on Harbaugh, like we could say it was last year. This game, I would say it's on two guys.
It's probably on Mark Andrews and Lamar. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And the fumble that he had was, it was a weird fumble. I don't know how he dropped that ball.

Speaker 5 He was getting tackled around his legs. Yeah.
And then he just kind of dropped it.

Speaker 1 But I think it hit out.

Speaker 1 This will obviously be the narrative coming out of this game: playoff Lamar can't get it done.

Speaker 1 And while it's very reductive to say that, because I still think think he's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL,

Speaker 1 you can't, he didn't play his best.

Speaker 1 He actually had his worst game probably of the year because he had two turnovers. And you need your best player to play his best in these games.

Speaker 5 I like that we've got a nice clean hierarchy for now, though, of AFC West quarterbacks, right?

Speaker 1 AFC Worlds.

Speaker 5 Or AFC quarterbacks. Yeah.
It goes Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. And then Joe Burrow, if he was in the playoffs, he'd just probably be beating everybody.
Yeah. But

Speaker 1 it sucks for Lamar because obviously you have all this season where you were incredible. I mean, he had four turnover, four interceptions all year, and then he threw one.

Speaker 1 And I know that was probably a miscommunication with Bateman, but the fumble led to points, and that was, and they were playing from behind the whole game. Like, that was,

Speaker 1 he put them in a spot where it was not great for the Ravens, and especially a team that likes to play from ahead and run the ball. I also do think that

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 two-point conversion, the first one, that one kind of didn't make any sense because they ran right down the field and then they passed in the two-point conversion.

Speaker 5 It's not just that they passed. They also moved Derrick Henry out to the side where he wasn't even a threat of running the ball.
Yeah. They just got him out of the play entirely.

Speaker 1 The thing I'll say about the Bills here, so the reason why I like the Bills in this game, I've been on the Bills this game, we talked about it on Friday.

Speaker 1 If you thought the Bills Ravens first game was going to be just a replay for today, you just weren't paying attention to who the Bills had back on defense. And

Speaker 1 two of the biggest plays in the game came from two of those guys. Matt Milano tipped the pass on the first two-point conversion to keep it a two-point game.

Speaker 1 And then Bernard, who didn't play in the first game, had the game-changing fumble on Mark Andrews that was really like

Speaker 1 that did change the entire course of the game because I don't know what the Bills' plan was.

Speaker 1 Obviously, you win and you just survive in advance. They had a very weird offensive game plan where they were just very conservative and they didn't let Josh Allen just be Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 Like it was a lot of dump-offs, running the ball a lot. Maybe they saw something.
They were like, we can control the game this way.

Speaker 1 But I thought the second half for the Bills, they were just trying to hold on instead of just taking it to the Ravens and finishing that game earlier.

Speaker 5 I think there were multiple times where each team was just trying to kill as much of the clock as possible. Right.

Speaker 1 So scared of the other guy.

Speaker 5 That was the game plan, is like just end with the ball. And I mean, who knows what what would have happened if Mark Andrews catches that two-point conversion? He should have caught it.

Speaker 5 It was a very easy catch for him. But there's still a lot of time left in that game.

Speaker 5 This is growth, though. You want to talk about growth with Josh Allen?

Speaker 5 There was the run that he had. There was four minutes, 15 seconds left in the game.
Third and goal from the two-yard line. Josh keeps it, runs up the middle.
Yep. And he thinks.

Speaker 5 He stops himself like mid-action.

Speaker 5 He thinks about trying to pitch the ball out of a group of like four Ravens defenders back to James Cook, who's standing like 12 yards away as Josh's arms are tied up. He wanted to do it.

Speaker 5 And in that moment, Josh was like, you know, all the people that think maybe you shouldn't be so reckless with the ball all the time? They're right in the circumstance.

Speaker 5 And he pulled it in and got tackled.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was third down or second down?

Speaker 5 That was third down.

Speaker 1 Third and goal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 5 You're absolutely right.

Speaker 5 That's personal growth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was definitely looking to pitch it.

Speaker 5 And it probably would have ended up costing them dearly. That would have been a tough play to make.
So credit to Josh Allen for not being a for not matching all the buttons. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He hit what he held on to it.

Speaker 5 Yeah. What's the just go down button?

Speaker 1 Why? Yeah. He hit why.

Speaker 1 He made the right choice. Also, Josh Allen, like, so he statistically, he didn't, it wasn't like he lit the world on fire.
No.

Speaker 1 They really didn't try to go deep. often.

Speaker 1 But he's such a weapon when you get into goal line where he had those two touchdown runs where it's like you get within 10 yards and Josh Allen is going to just bowl you over a couple times.

Speaker 1 And I do think he's going to have to, they're going to have to let him be himself more against the Chiefs because

Speaker 1 you just can't expect to beat Patrick Mahomes in his house unless Josh plays out of his mind. And I think he has that in him.
But it was the Bills, their defense stood up.

Speaker 1 Like besides that really long Ravens drive, they had a really good plan for Derrick Henry, and

Speaker 1 they weren't going to let the Ravens run it down their throat. You could see that from the very jump, that was their plan.

Speaker 1 They're like, we're going to have to let Lamar beat us with his arm, which he did a couple times.

Speaker 1 But for the most part, the plan worked, and they made the big plays when you had to make the big plays. They got three turnovers that changed the game.

Speaker 5 They had enough plays where they stopped Derrick Henry for one or two yards and just hit the fuck out of him up the middle. That it set a tone for their defense.
And Derrick was never, ever...

Speaker 5 He had a couple of nice runs in the open field that they kind of shoestring tackled him on.

Speaker 5 but if you can if you can prevent him from doing the home run ones where he goes 70 yards scores a touchdown good job to the bills defense your linebackers and and Ed Oliver was was hitting people too great game from Ed yeah they the the Bills defense stood up when they needed to stand up and

Speaker 1 the Bills keep going I by the way we should mention also the DPI call at the end of the first half was bullshit Ravens fans Similar to Texas fans, you have a right to be upset about that.

Speaker 1 Also, but if we're doing fairness, the Deion Dawkins hold call was bullshit, and that was when the Bills were driving and they immediately had to punt after that.

Speaker 1 The only person who thought the DPI call wasn't a good call or was a good call was Tony Romo.

Speaker 5 Tony Romo. Let James Cook.
You ever heard of that one?

Speaker 1 Let James Cook.

Speaker 1 They're trying to impose their will. Imposing their will.
They're imposing their will. Yep.
Over and over.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Tony Blue. Imposing their will.
Also, shout out Josh Allen. He did the Aaron Rodgers where he just developed a spontaneous southern accent in the post-game interview.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Was that the Perk Rogers game? I think so. I think that was a Perk Rogers.
Maybe we got Perk Allen today.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Bills are a tough team.

Speaker 1 I don't know. The Chiefs fucking going to win.
We need the Bills. We need the Bills.
They can't play conservative like they did. It did feel in the second half because they had the perfect first half.

Speaker 1 They go up 21-10 before halftime. They get the ball.
And it just felt like they're like, hey, we're just going to hold on here.

Speaker 1 I will say, Sean McDermott, I did like, I know we've had a a lot of discourse about being aggressive, trying to win the game. I thought that was the right call to kick that field goal

Speaker 1 with four minutes left because it was a long two.

Speaker 1 Well, if it was one, maybe you do the push, but with two and to be able to go up eight and exactly what happened, the Ravens have to go down the field, score, and then get a two-point conversion.

Speaker 1 At the moment, I was like, I think you got to kick the field goal here.

Speaker 5 Weird stuff happens.

Speaker 5 And on that two-point conversion, yeah, it should have been a catch, should have been two points, but because you played it smart, kicked a field goal, put them in a position where weird shit benefits you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you put them in a position where they have to execute an extra play. Yeah.
And it's like you have another chance to have them not be able to execute this play.

Speaker 5 Max, I'm curious to hear your take on this. There was a Baltimore radio host that called Buffalo a city of losers today.
Would you concur with that guy?

Speaker 1 They lose a lot in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 Would you concur that they're losing a

Speaker 5 playoffs? A city of losers? Because then Sean McDermott said in his post-game speech: this is a city of winners. The people of the city deserve more than whoever said that about them.

Speaker 5 Do you agree with Sean McDermott or the radio host that called them a city of losers?

Speaker 1 I would say they're probably in between. Not necessarily losers nor winners.

Speaker 1 I'm sure the citizens of Baltimore... Buffalo.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait. Buffalo's winners or Baltimore's winners?

Speaker 5 The Baltimore radio host called Buffalo a city of losers.

Speaker 1 Buffalo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, Buffalo's a city of winners.

Speaker 5 They've never won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 No, the people are winners, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 the team has not won a Super Bowl, so yeah.

Speaker 5 He's kind of backtracking on the whole winner-loser thing.

Speaker 1 Sounds like you're confused. Yeah, he is.
Yeah, no, I am.

Speaker 1 That's fine.

Speaker 1 I'm not calling anyone a loser. I'm saying that there's winners, and then there's everyone else.

Speaker 1 Patriots, winners. Chiefs, winners.

Speaker 5 I would love Buffalo to get to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I would love it. It would be so fucking wrong.

Speaker 5 I love for the Bills and Bills fans.

Speaker 5 What's that face, Hank?

Speaker 1 Are you okay? What is that face?

Speaker 5 Oh, Big Cat took a piss. I had to piss.

Speaker 1 I could hear it. We pre-taped the ads.
I had to piss. We were going to take a break.
What are you going to do?

Speaker 5 He's not using the sync.

Speaker 1 What do you want me to do?

Speaker 1 Gross me out.

Speaker 1 The sound is.

Speaker 5 Number one sportspot.

Speaker 1 I was still talking during that. I was following along.
I had to piss.

Speaker 5 So, what's your take on it?

Speaker 1 Buffalo is trying to be a city of winners. They're trying their best.
They're trying their best to be a city of winners. There's a better way than I put it, but I concur.

Speaker 1 They're on their path to trying to be winners.

Speaker 5 This is their year.

Speaker 1 This is their fucking year. Fuck the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 They're going to win Sunday. I want Johnson.
Go to New Orleans.

Speaker 1 Buffalo.

Speaker 1 Buffalo. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Is that... What's the thing where they have like sister schools or sister cities? Like, Buffalo and New Orleans, that is the same same city.
And it doesn't make sense, but it does.

Speaker 1 Like, if Buffalo is going to win a Super Bowl, it should be in New Orleans. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It would be awesome. I mean, partying with Bills fans all week would be awesome.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want Hank to

Speaker 1 Buffalo. That made no sense.
No, no, I get it.

Speaker 5 They're both drunk. That's what he was going for.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. They're drunk.
I feel like they're very different cities. No.

Speaker 1 It's called Buffalo. New Orleans at least.
New Orleans at Sea level.

Speaker 1 Tourist trap of a city.

Speaker 5 Sister cities. Sister cities.

Speaker 1 Sister cities. Sister cities.

Speaker 5 They don't always look alike, Max.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 5 But they can still be sisters.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one has huge tits that they show every couple of years, you know, a couple times a year. The other likes.

Speaker 1 The other likes beef on weck and wings. They're sisters, though.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Buffalo's got a great personality.

Speaker 1 Right. I love Buffalo.
We've been to Buffalo. The people of Buffalo are great.
The city of Buffalo is great. Have you guys thought about that possibility?

Speaker 1 Because obviously, if you go, if either of you goes against the Chiefs, America's going to be on your side.

Speaker 5 I'm taking it one game at a time.

Speaker 1 We'll be on your side. I've thought about it.
If you guys go against the Bills, I will be rooting for my friend Josh Allen.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I expect that Buffalo would probably be the darling of America if they got it.

Speaker 1 I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about

Speaker 1 the East.

Speaker 5 You can control what you can control.

Speaker 1 That's not true, Hank. No, it's true.
I've thought about it. Trust me.
I've done the calculations.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, I'm saying if the Bills are. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like, I would root for the Commanders against the Bills. I would not root for the Eagles.
I thought you were.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 I thought you were saying I would never root for the Eagles in any end. No, no.
If it was Bill's Eagles, I'd root for Josh full-throated. If it was...

Speaker 1 Bills, full-throated. Yeah, I said it.

Speaker 1 I mean, listen, we get accused of it, so why not just come out and say we do it?

Speaker 1 If it was Bills, Commanders, I think I would just take a step back and be like, well, there's a positive one way or the other.

Speaker 5 That's not, you would root for the Bills. I don't know.
You said like two weeks ago that you hoped that I would lose the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I know, but then

Speaker 1 I'm let go. Although I said I hope you don't get to the Super Bowl, I said it would be bullshit if you got to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I hadn't really think about what would happen if you got to the Super Bowl because then it's like one of the closest people in my life to have a ton of happiness.

Speaker 1 I think I'd have to be like, yeah, I want Josh Allen to win.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for the Commanders

Speaker 5 and I'm rooting for the Bills.

Speaker 1 No, I think if you went to the Super Bowl PFT, I would be rooting for you. Because, I mean,

Speaker 1 it would be fucking awesome for you.

Speaker 1 I'd get back to probably being bitter about Jaden Daniels, but I'd be happy for you.

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't it be awesome for me? Nah,

Speaker 1 we all know what we want. I mean, Max, you want to be.
You want the sad Max.

Speaker 5 You had your shot, and you got to the Super Bowl, and you would never see somebody rooting harder for you in that Super Bowl than Big Cat was. Because he had $200,000 on the line.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, maybe that's the recipe then that I don't need. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for the Eagles. I don't care who we play on the other side.
I'm rooting for the Eagles. All right, let's wrap up this game.

Speaker 1 Yes. I don't know about that.
Let's wrap up this game.

Speaker 1 Ravens, what do they do?

Speaker 5 I don't know that you change anything.

Speaker 1 It's got to be. I mean, they're starting to get to that point of like

Speaker 5 what's happening. I don't know that you make any drastic changes.
I don't know that you can look at this game and say, like,

Speaker 5 the guys that made mistakes, Mark Andrews, still a good player. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you guys see the tweet from the Ravens?

Speaker 1 No. They tweeted a pregame clip of Mark Andrews warming up and was like, Mark Andrews, not affected by the snow.
Oh,

Speaker 5 shit. So maybe you do cut him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just,

Speaker 1 yeah, you still have to keep going because you have Lamar Jackson and your window's open as long as you have Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 But this is now how many years of Lamar Jackson being one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL? And they have not, I mean, they had a,

Speaker 1 I wonder, last year probably hurt more. Yeah.
Because they were favorites at home against Chiefs and

Speaker 1 they lost. A little snow doesn't bother Mark Andrews was the wording on it.

Speaker 5 Maybe you cut the social media person.

Speaker 5 I think what happens is Ravens fans just go into next season with

Speaker 5 an impending

Speaker 5 sense of doom. Whereas this season, it was like, okay,

Speaker 5 this is the year we believe they still were very optimistic. Lamar was playing as good as he has in his entire career.

Speaker 1 And they were the hottest team.

Speaker 5 But next year, you go into the season being like a little bit jaded. I don't know that we can do anything until I see it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because they were playing. I mean, you know, they beat the Steelers.
They kicked the shit out of the Texans down the stretch.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 1 it felt like everything was clicking at the right time for them.

Speaker 1 And yeah, they go back to the well.

Speaker 1 They go back to the well. That's a tough one.
That's a really, We're going to try to get Stavian,

Speaker 1 so maybe he can answer that for us.

Speaker 1 I feel bad, but I'm going to have to ask him. I'm not going to, I didn't ask him today.

Speaker 5 I'm going to wait till tomorrow. It kind of sucks.
Whoever lost this game was going to have to deal with a significant narrative. Right.
Right.

Speaker 5 And as members of the media, it's our responsibility to uphold those narratives. Right.

Speaker 1 And they would have both quarterbacks had stat, like Lamar with the turnovers and Josh. They didn't really stretch the field and they didn't let him be himself.

Speaker 1 So they both, whoever lost was going to have to to answer to it.

Speaker 5 It was going to be execution by the internet.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Uh, okay.
Let's take another break. When we come back, let's talk national championship and also a little tiny first thoughts about the championship Sunday coming up.

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Speaker 1 Boys,

Speaker 1 PFT, Max,

Speaker 1 what's this week going to be like for the AWLs, for us in the room?

Speaker 1 How are we feeling?

Speaker 5 Speaking for myself, I'm going to be on edge. A week.
Yeah. I mean, to be fair, I'm playing with house money.
Max has a lot more to lose than I do right now.

Speaker 5 I like this. If the commanders lose the NFC championship,

Speaker 5 this is the start.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 5 the window's open. Our window is just, I'm lifting up the window right now.
It's cracked, and I'm getting

Speaker 5 that nice gust of cool air in on a hot summer day. So this is the start of something.
For Max, this is like maybe

Speaker 5 middle to end of something. The pressure.
I feel like I'm playing with house money, but I'm still going to be very nervous this week because it's the biggest game that I've seen since 1992.

Speaker 1 I don't disagree with anything you just said. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think that's why there's a difference in

Speaker 1 where you are

Speaker 1 watching the highlights. You're celebrating the win.
It's been over 24 hours. You're back to work.

Speaker 5 I watched 14 hours worth of highlights. My phone died.
The battery on my phone died twice since the game ended last night because I was watching too many highlights.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 I'm on to next week.

Speaker 1 I don't care that I just beat the ran that I just that I don't care about being in the conference championship. That means so little to me.

Speaker 5 It's Monday right now. I've moved on.
Just turned 1201.

Speaker 5 Back to work. Okay.

Speaker 1 If the Eagles lose on Sunday, this season is a complete failure. What about? If the Commanders lose, which is a terrifying place to be in.
Yeah, what about for this podcast?

Speaker 1 Will it be the lowest point?

Speaker 1 Will it be the lowest point?

Speaker 1 No, I think it'll be a really downloaded episode. Will it be the lowest point, Max?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I have not had

Speaker 1 a good track record in this.

Speaker 1 But that's actually way worse that you've had only low points, and this will be the lowest point.

Speaker 5 I mean, the Super Bowl, Max.

Speaker 1 But I think this might, like,

Speaker 1 the Super Bowl was

Speaker 1 the opening of a window, and you lose to Mahomes, and as much as it sucks, it's Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 He would have to look at you every single day,

Speaker 1 pretty much for the rest of his life, because he says he's only going to live to 45,

Speaker 1 and that will be in his head every single day. And you know, PFT would buy every single piece of NFC champion gear.
Oh, my God! And that would basically be his wardrobe for the shoes.

Speaker 1 He buys the shit for years, no one will. I would make my own.

Speaker 1 Have you ever seen a plaid NFC championship shirt?

Speaker 5 You're about to.

Speaker 1 I have one:

Speaker 1 losing to Hank is worse than losing to PFT. I will say.
Have you lost to PFT? No. Well, yes, I have lost.

Speaker 1 Regular season. Correct.
But

Speaker 1 you're so much more of an asshole. And the look on your face

Speaker 1 when you win. Like, there's a part of

Speaker 1 PFT will be, you know, he'll have his moment and it'll suck to see him, but I won't hate him the way that I hate Hank. However, I do care way more about the Eagles than I do

Speaker 1 the Sixers. And the Sixers,

Speaker 1 that was such a long shot for them to like. The Eagles have a real chance of winning.
22.

Speaker 1 No, but

Speaker 1 the Sixers are the Sixers, like the chances of them,

Speaker 1 like they weren't in like a, like a, like the Eagles are favored to win the Super Bowl right now. The Sixers were never favored to win the NBA Finals.

Speaker 5 They're favored to win the Super Bowl, but they're probably going to be underdogs to whoever they play for the Petsy.

Speaker 1 As of right now, the Eagles are favored to win the Super Bowl. They are in a window.

Speaker 1 This is a time that you have to win. Right.
Especially,

Speaker 1 I mentioned it earlier.

Speaker 1 Jaden Daniels is terrifying. That game against the Lions was incredible.
He looked like a guy that I am very scared of for a very long time.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you got to beat him now.

Speaker 1 You got to beat him now. Yeah, I think

Speaker 5 if any rookie quarterback is capable of doing what seems to be impossible and winning a Super Bowl in their first year, what I've seen from Jaden, he seems to be the kind of guy that could do that.

Speaker 1 That throw to DeAmi Brown was so fucking good. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And I'm not saying that I'm not confident that the commanders are going to win the Super Bowl, but I think that they could, which is crazy, the growth that we've seen out of this guy. Two games away.

Speaker 1 You absolutely could.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we absolutely could. And I'm entitled to think Supy now because by thinking Supy, that just means I'm thinking about this game this weekend.

Speaker 1 100%. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 5 Listen, Max, we said it before we started taping. Like,

Speaker 5 things are going to get contentious by the end of the week.

Speaker 5 I think we're both trying to start this week out not firing the other guy up too much, not talking as much shit because that's naturally going to occur as we get closer to the NFC championship.

Speaker 5 But shout out to the NFC East. We are who the

Speaker 5 people thought the NFC North were.

Speaker 1 PMTV, we should try to...

Speaker 1 We should do some kind of competition where Hank and I versus Max PFT, let them get maybe closer as friends.

Speaker 1 Get him on the same team.

Speaker 5 I think I'm going to just scout Max this week. I'm going to watch a lot of Max film.
I'd like to

Speaker 1 put out a lot of bad tape, I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 1 I think you should pay no tape.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Everything I do is bad tape.
Oh, he's talking about himself.

Speaker 5 Oh, himself, okay.

Speaker 1 No, yeah. Who sleep on it, obviously, and I think we can reconvene Tuesday, but people have been saying it a lot, and you guys do both have long hair.
We do.

Speaker 5 I was thinking maybe a mullet bet.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 I would do

Speaker 1 buy Super Bowl tickets bet.

Speaker 5 I think

Speaker 5 I also want to say for the record that if the Eagles

Speaker 5 are lucky enough to make it to the Super Bowl, I think Max should attend that game in person.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so wait, I was going to ask this memes, Hank, who are you guys rooting for? So I am in an interesting spot because

Speaker 1 why are you asking me?

Speaker 1 Such a great noise. No,

Speaker 1 obviously he has an answer. Yeah, no shit.
I have an answer for everything. Everyone does.

Speaker 1 I went on a heater a couple weeks ago. I was up.
I went up like 15 grand on one Sunday, and I was like, I'm going to put a future. I put it on the Eagles.

Speaker 1 $5,800. Biggest future I've ever put on, plus $450,000.

Speaker 1 Right now, I could cash out for $10,000, so I could cash out and make money.

Speaker 1 But I don't think I should. No.

Speaker 1 Probably not. So I think I'm going to.

Speaker 1 I will make a decision by the end of the week. I will also be sleeping on it.

Speaker 1 And I thought initially going into this game, I was like, if the Eagles win, I'm cashing out and running for the Commanders. Once that happened and I was looking at it, I have thought about it more.

Speaker 1 And the Eagles, I feel like, are the better team. They got more guys, better defense.

Speaker 1 Commanders are playing with house money. If they lose, they're not going to be that upset about it.

Speaker 1 My gut, my Sunday gut is telling me to stick with the Eagles and ride with Max.

Speaker 5 I think the commander, the team is going to be upset they lose.

Speaker 1 Very upset. Well, obviously, but.

Speaker 5 That's what you just said.

Speaker 1 I honestly think that's a better scenario for you. Like, I think that that is a reason.

Speaker 5 Well, Hank's been betting against this all season long, so why mess up a good thing?

Speaker 1 And people are going to bring up the commanders. I have $100 on the Commanders to win $1,000.
I have $5,800 on the Eagles to win the Super Bowl

Speaker 1 to win $38,000. And the other thing that I'm thinking about, because I'm, you know, next level thinker,

Speaker 1 the Eagles have a much better chance to beat the Chiefs. That's true.
And so

Speaker 1 I don't want to roof with the Commanders, have them win, and then just get smoked by the Chiefs and then three Pete.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I'm leaning heavily Eagles. Memes?

Speaker 1 No offense, 15.

Speaker 1 That's understandable.

Speaker 1 That's not a personal thing.

Speaker 5 Counterpoint.

Speaker 5 Everyone thought that the Lions were going to smoke the Commanders.

Speaker 1 The Lions don't have devil magic.

Speaker 5 That's true.

Speaker 1 They have actually

Speaker 1 the devil on like against them. Yeah.
Memes.

Speaker 1 I woke up.

Speaker 5 I was going to root for PFT to win the Super Bowl, and then he tweeted a picture of Amy Schumer

Speaker 5 interviewing for the Jets head coaching job.

Speaker 5 Breaking news, Amy Schumer has just completed her interview.

Speaker 1 I like that meme. They're talking to everybody.

Speaker 5 That's all the joke was.

Speaker 1 We get to stay in New Orleans. Well, no, so memes, that, yeah.
That's.

Speaker 1 we were talking about it before and uh

Speaker 1 if the Eagles go to the Super Bowl I think you will be able to regardless memes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you might be able to regardless I gotta do the podcast if the Eagles go to the Super Bowl is Max is gonna go to the Super Bowl Max

Speaker 1 Yes, I would love to go to the Super Bowl so Max is gonna go to the Super Bowl but we will not stay in New Orleans because we can easily have Max zoom in after the game if the Commanders go PFT is gonna go to the Super Bowl and we can't do

Speaker 1 a Super Bowl show with PFT PFT and I both on Zoom. So I'd have to stay three extra days in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 And I want to kill myself just thinking about that.

Speaker 1 No offense, New Orleans, but I also like

Speaker 1 to see my kids.

Speaker 5 Why wouldn't she just fly back and then fly back?

Speaker 1 That sounds even worse.

Speaker 1 That sounds way worse. So it sounds like PFT got a stacked.

Speaker 1 I actually was thinking about

Speaker 1 shocking. Anybody, anytime.

Speaker 1 Well, I wanted to root for the the commanders and then i because i want to see max sad but then when we mapped out the plans i was like wait what we have to do to monday and then i'm going on vacation on wednesday so i basically just wouldn't see my kids for two weeks and that would suck a lot i want to be perfectly perfectly clear i do not give a shit who you guys root for i know i just wanted to throw it out there for the listeners because the listeners might want to know who the thing is i'm on your side thanks memes oh you're back no no because we're staying until monday oh me and memes all the way.

Speaker 5 Always been best friends.

Speaker 1 That's huge for me. That felt like a

Speaker 1 graphic. That felt like a graphic.
All right, I'm back on Max. I also might switch.
I might switch, too. I might try to figure out how to just not go to New Orleans until the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Skip Super Bowl week.

Speaker 1 I wish the Bills Chiefs game was first.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because if the Bills win, I'm cashing out and rooting for the Bills.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was really nice being able to watch the games today, knowing that I was already in the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 5 Next week, it's going to suck because I'm either going to, well, if I lose, I'm going to be so upset during the AFC Championship game that I'm not going to be able to properly enjoy it.

Speaker 1 Man, this is going to be fun.

Speaker 1 House money. This is going to be fun.
This is going to be fun. I wish I had house money.
In a vacuum. Take your headphones off, PFT.
In a vacuum, big hat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who do you think, though?

Speaker 1 I think the exact same thing I thought before the Lions Commanders game. And I ended up betting the Commanders.
Now, I didn't bet a money line, but I bet him eight and a half.

Speaker 1 The Eagles are a better team.

Speaker 1 Jaden Daniels is special. Like, I don't,

Speaker 1 if they play this game 10 times, I think it's 5-5 because I think Jaden Daniels just does something.

Speaker 1 Like, if you give him the ball late, he's going to do something special, and he's going to beat them. So,

Speaker 1 yeah, on paper, Eagles are way better. Most talented Russian in the NFL.

Speaker 1 They don't have Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 1 That's just, it just keeps sticking in my head.

Speaker 1 They barely beat him with Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 1 But it doesn't matter. There's something going on that you just can't.

Speaker 1 The Eagles dropped a pick at the end of that game.

Speaker 1 Didn't they? Didn't they drop a game? No, Devontae Smith dropped the first down

Speaker 1 to the game. Right.
Like, that shit is happening where it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 We should also say, though, that Jaden did throw two interceptions.

Speaker 1 Wait, you weren't supposed to be listening.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, I'm just saying. I want to make sure to point that out because Max was going to say we have to talk about that.

Speaker 1 No, no, I told you no notes, Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 1 I have given Jaden Daniels the utmost respect in this episode. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Max and I are both being very careful with our words.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's early.

Speaker 5 It's early in the week. We're going to ease our way into work.
We're going to work up a lather by Friday.

Speaker 1 I agree with everything that Big Cat just said, by the way. The Eagles are for sure.

Speaker 1 I think you agree with that. The Eagles are the better team, but we don't have.

Speaker 1 Jaden Daniels is a scary player.

Speaker 5 I would kind of, yeah, on paper, the roster, you know.

Speaker 1 No, they are.

Speaker 1 The team is better, but Jaden Daniels and the team of destiny vibes of the Commanders is a thing.

Speaker 5 But you also have to look at that. The Lions were better.

Speaker 1 You guys still won that. But the Lions were playing.
They were like scrubs.

Speaker 5 The thing is, the Lions were not better. We were the better team.
It's not like

Speaker 5 our guys were better than their guys on Saturday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, all their guys were better.

Speaker 1 I mean, obviously.

Speaker 1 But in the grand scheme of things, if you were

Speaker 1 like the Lions were the better football team all year than the Commanders. But on that, yes, obviously on that day, the Commanders were better.
But

Speaker 1 overall, you wouldn't say that if you look at this whole team. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, if we're doing a guy-off, I would agree with you.

Speaker 5 What's the most important position?

Speaker 1 Quarterback, and that's what I am.

Speaker 1 I am agreeing with you. Yeah.
I think I've also realized that

Speaker 1 for a logistics standpoint, I think I want the Eagles to win the NFC Championship.

Speaker 1 If the Commanders win the NFC Championship, I think I am going to be rooting for the Commanders in the Super Bowl because I'm going to have to stay an extra three days and I want it to be worth it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, not against the Bills, though. You're going to root for the Bills.

Speaker 1 I don't know, dude. Again, it comes down to like you actually, like,

Speaker 1 you're there, and it's like your ultimate happiness.

Speaker 1 I'd be bitter about Jaden Daniels, but he'd be happy for you. And I'll also be like, at least we stayed for you to win.
Yeah. Because if you lost, I'd be like, fuck, why'd we stay?

Speaker 5 On the numbers side of it, misery always does better than being happy, right?

Speaker 1 Well, we're getting that no matter what. That's the beauty.
That's the beauty. That's the beauty of this.
That is the beauty of this.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we get a chance for double misery, but it can't be against the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Hank is ridiculous. Basically, what I'm telling you, PFT is a good thing.
I'm ready for double misery bills. If you get to,

Speaker 1 I'm not with you next Sunday, but if you get to the thing, win the whole fucking thing. But no, actually,

Speaker 1 that's where I'm at. If you get to the Super Bowl, you fucking win that whole thing.
I kind of agree, actually. Double misery bills, I would rather have

Speaker 1 Max Misery

Speaker 1 PFT win the Super Bowl, but also I have this fucking stupid thing. Like, the worst case scenario here is

Speaker 1 the Chiefs just win.

Speaker 5 I would also say

Speaker 1 that's what's going to happen. And it's like we go and we go to the Super Bowl and we stay.
And then that's pod misery. Yeah, so that's why I'm like, I will be rooting for you.

Speaker 5 I'll also say that if we get to the Super Bowl, if we're lucky enough to win the Super Bowl,

Speaker 5 that night is statistically my most probable night of dying that I think I've ever had in my life.

Speaker 5 New Orleans, Super Bowl victory.

Speaker 5 I'm 40.

Speaker 1 You're a man.

Speaker 5 That's like, if you look at a pie chart of different days and how likely I was to die on each day in my entire life, that would be like

Speaker 5 12% of the entire pie. Just one day.

Speaker 1 Just promise me if I have to stay three extra days in New Orleans, you win the whole thing. Okay.
That's all I ask.

Speaker 1 Then it's worth it for me.

Speaker 5 Wait, listen, I'm focused on this week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I understand, but could you promise me? Yeah, I promise you. If the commanders go to the Super Bowl, I'm going to get more drunk that weekend than I did last year.
Than I did the last time.

Speaker 1 Because I will be so miserable that I am like,

Speaker 1 I will be so miserable.

Speaker 1 I'm probably going to game of the year at the Commanders' Money Line to try to make that extra three days in New Orleans worth it. I don't hate it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I might have to do that because I might just be like, fuck it. I'm going all in with you.
Like,

Speaker 1 if you're going to be miserable, I'll just join you. Memes also has something to say.

Speaker 5 I know misery sells, but has

Speaker 1 anything positive happened to you guys that, like, we know the outcome of that? Like,

Speaker 1 numbers-wise? Number-wise. Like, Double Doink was the most listened to podcast.
No, misery, dude. Misery.
But has anything positive happened? No.

Speaker 5 When Hank was in the victory parade, that was huge.

Speaker 1 But that's misery. Parting with the Patriots after they won two Super Bowls.
Misery is two times what would happen.

Speaker 5 Okay, I think it would actually be. I think people would listen at a super high clip if it was Commanders, Chiefs, and the Super Bowl, and the Commanders beat Mahomes and the Chiefs.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 I think that would do some numbers.

Speaker 1 But it still would be misery. Yeah.
Misery is always number one. Sickos and perverts love it.
But we don't know. No, I think we know.
It's how the internet works, memes.

Speaker 1 You are a student of the internet. You live on the internet.

Speaker 1 I think the NFC championship game will be bigger. That will be a bigger episode regardless of what happens in the Super Bowl.
What clips get watched more?

Speaker 1 When fans freak out and lose, or when fans get happy?

Speaker 7 Hank celebrating the Boston Celtics went viral.

Speaker 1 But freakouts and losses are.

Speaker 1 Max's Super Bowl loss wasn't bigger.

Speaker 5 Hank, what you just said was insane, though. You think that the episode after the NFC Championship game is going to be bigger than the episode after the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 Potentially, if it's a close game, if it's a

Speaker 1 way, we're in a good spot. spot gods in awl just not the championship work boys uh

Speaker 1 who do you guys like tonight

Speaker 5 oh state ohio state yeah

Speaker 5 but i think lou holtz is going to be in the building

Speaker 1 what are you shaking your head about max i forgot that there was a college game this is why they should have been no there's been zero buzz about this

Speaker 1 in the definition

Speaker 1 negative buzz about this this is why the season lasts too long i've been locked in on the nfl i haven't had time This game feels like an exhibition. I do think

Speaker 1 Ohio State's the better team.

Speaker 1 I feel like it's one of those things where Notre Dame,

Speaker 1 two out of ten times maybe, could win this game. They got to get Will Howard to turn the ball over.

Speaker 1 They got to be able to like... I mean, Notre Dame's defense is very good.

Speaker 5 I do love Notre Dame's rushing attack, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Riley Leonard's going to have to play perfect. But it could be there.
Get him into a tight game. Let Marcus Freeman out coach Ryan Day.

Speaker 1 I just, I'm worried about

Speaker 1 Notre Dame's rush defense. And

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, if Ryan Day is sweating in the second half, he's going to drop the ball. And

Speaker 1 the problem with Ohio State, like, obviously everyone knows Jeremiah Smith, and they got dudes everywhere. But like, their defense, their defensive line is so nasty.

Speaker 1 And they'll just be able to get pressure with four

Speaker 1 and be able to play coverage. And Notre Dame doesn't exactly have like...

Speaker 1 They don't have Jeremiah Smith. That's really what it comes down to.
They don't have a difference maker on the outside. Although, Faison.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's quick.

Speaker 1 He could do something. It's probably Ohio State.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 the college football season goes on too long. Also, we talked about it with Booger, so if you want a full.

Speaker 5 Well, like, I'm okay with the season going on this long because it's more football.

Speaker 5 We have a meaningful football game tomorrow night, but also I was not thinking at all about college football this week.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying take, I'm not saying do less football. Just

Speaker 1 do it it earlier. Yeah.
Like there's a there's spots in the schedule where they could just be like, hey, we're going to play a game instead. And now the

Speaker 1 college football national championship should be like January 10th at the latest. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's that's what it feels like.

Speaker 5 Make week zero, week one.

Speaker 1 Or just get rid of the conference championships and start the playoffs there. Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's really what it is. Just give the conference championship to whoever the home like whoever would have won the home team seating for the conference champions game.

Speaker 1 Also, there's an entire week between conference championship week and the or two weeks between conference championship week and the playoffs.

Speaker 5 Move them up. But also keep Army Navy as a standalone.

Speaker 1 You might have to play it on a different day.

Speaker 5 I don't like that. I like that as a standalone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just, it's too late. It's too late for it.
Okay, let's finish up. Okay, before we get to who's back of the week.

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Speaker 1 All right, who's back of the week? Hank. My who's back of the week is TikTok.
Yeah!

Speaker 1 So Saturday.

Speaker 5 Our national nightmare is over. Yeah, Saturday.

Speaker 1 Because there was an announcement last week that they were banning TikTok on January 19th.

Speaker 1 Saturday, if you went on tick tock every single person was basically there was people crying everyone was acting like the world was ending people at this office asking us to not fire them people in this office asking us to not fire them what's going to happen how this is going to affect us

Speaker 1 you would have thought the world was ending uh the the funny trend that was happening was like you know tick tockers and and influencers that got big on the tick tock app were basically revealing all their dirtiest secrets like oh you know one last day on this app i might as well tell you this and then just tell like basically them, like, lying about something or doing something nefarious.

Speaker 5 And then the plane's going to crash, and so you just confess your love to the person that you're next to. Yes.

Speaker 1 But in this

Speaker 5 analogy, like, life does go on.

Speaker 1 Well, basically, that's what's the Almost Famous. It was basically that scene in Almost Famous.

Speaker 1 Because it got banned, I think, 10 o'clock, and then the next Sunday morning, it was back. Just completely fine.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 what a smart marketing move by TikTok to have everybody celebrate the death of your app, talk about how great it is, start crying because they can't use your app anymore. Boom, we're back.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it wasn't even 24 hours. I thought it was going to be maybe till the inauguration officially happened, but no, they just brought it back Sunday morning.
Yeah, yeah. So we're back.
So TikTok is back.

Speaker 5 What about all the influencers that signed up for, what is it, Red Scare? RedNote. RedNote, yeah, the Chinese government-owned app that's like glorified.

Speaker 5 I think in the terms of service, it said to promote the values of socialism.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we were like sharing, there was a bunch of clips of like people sharing videos from aircraft carriers and shit. Yeah.
Not great.

Speaker 5 So TikTok back.

Speaker 1 TikTok's back. I think they said they're doing like a 90-day extension and then it might be banned again, but there's just no way that it ever gets banned.

Speaker 5 I thought the Supreme Court, was it like 9-0?

Speaker 5 It was unanimous and it upheld the ban.

Speaker 1 But it's back. So how like...
We're back. Yeah, we're back.
If you can beat a 9-0 Supreme Court vote, they beat the alley. They're back.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's like having infinity stars in GTA.

Speaker 1 It also is like

Speaker 1 Zuckerberg.

Speaker 1 Are we much better? Are the other apps much better? Like, everyone's going to switch. Like, I don't, I don't, I've never understood that part of it.

Speaker 5 Well, the thing about it, I read something, and I think it was from.

Speaker 1 The Devil You Know versus The Devil You Don't.

Speaker 5 Yeah, from the court briefing on what they were saying about TikTok.

Speaker 5 I think that with TikTok, if you like, if you have TikTok, and let's say your mom doesn't have TikTok, by you being on TikTok and allowing access to your contacts, the Chinese government now has access to everything about your mom, who's not even on the app.

Speaker 1 But they have that shit anyway.

Speaker 1 They have it all. Everyone has it.
My brother's watching everything. If you have an iPhone,

Speaker 1 everything's out there. TikTok, dope.
Congrats to everyone who makes a living on TikTok because that would have sucked for them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, there's a lot of people who are probably freaking the fuck out. Yeah,

Speaker 1 there was real tears tears going on yeah yeah also did you see snacking girl came back i did say that was great saw some

Speaker 5 snacking oh she ran it back yeah no she's like this might be the end here it is one last time yeah all right pft year who's back uh my who's back of the week well i have an update on the falconer for lazio oh so he disputes the claim and to refresh your memory he is the falconer for the soccer team lazio that got kicked out never needed the surgery because he got a penis enhancement surgery and then he barricaded himself inside the team facility to protest his firing.

Speaker 5 He is claiming that he never barricaded himself inside the team facility. Rather, that he had a medical condition after the surgery where if he stood up, he would have started bleeding from his penis.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 5 And he said that, he said, I have a medical certificate. If I get up, I will lose blood from my penis.

Speaker 5 So he's got a note from the doctor saying the only reason he barricaded himself was because he was not allowed to stand up and move around. Got it.
So we'll see. As of now, still fired.

Speaker 5 I don't think the Falcon was ever in any immediate danger, but we do advocate for his reinstatement as Falconer, official team Falconer ASAP. My other who's back of the week is Willie Mammoths.

Speaker 1 They're back.

Speaker 5 There's a company called Colossal Biosciences, and they just raised $200 million.

Speaker 5 Their company is valued at $10.2 billion. to bring back and clone Willie Mammoths.
Whoa. And I'd say it's high time that this happened.
That's pretty hard.

Speaker 5 I've been waiting for a billionaire to actually do Jurassic Park ever since that movie came out. We have the technology.
Like, what bad could happen from reinventing all these old extinct animals?

Speaker 5 Yeah. So Willie Mammoth might be back soon, which I would fucking love to see Willie Mammoth walking around out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, why not?

Speaker 5 We got coyotes. Let's do it.
Why not Willie Mammoths? Yeah, let's fucking do it. I'm all in.
Willie Mammoth.

Speaker 1 All right, Mike, who's back? I got two. The Dodgers, they signed another

Speaker 1 guy who's going to be incredible.

Speaker 1 Two of them, Tanner Scott and Sasaki.

Speaker 1 They're just really fucking good. I don't really know what else to say.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 He wanted to be a Dodger because he grew up loving Jackie Robinson.

Speaker 1 Oh. That's what he said.

Speaker 5 Nice.

Speaker 1 And then my other who's back is Gun Girl, aka Poop Girl. Oh, yeah.
She's back. What's doing interviews again?

Speaker 5 I debated her one time. Yeah.
You did?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 She's got hot and heavy. She's, yeah, she said, I'm back.
First time on campus in five years.

Speaker 5 I didn't debate her about anything political. I debated her on whether or not she pooped her pants.
Ah. I took the position of yes, she did.

Speaker 1 And she said no.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I won the debate. Yeah.

Speaker 1 She said, stay tuned for some wild conversation about transgenderism and abortion at USF.

Speaker 1 Great. Awesome.

Speaker 5 That sounds fun.

Speaker 1 I saw it because someone quote you was like,

Speaker 1 her face looks like when you eat mushrooms and you look at yourself in the mirror. I thought that was funny.
Yeah. All right.

Speaker 5 I'm glad she's back. Welcome back.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good show, boys.
What a week we got coming up.

Speaker 5 Huge week.

Speaker 1 What a a week we got coming up.

Speaker 5 Max, let's just agree that this week a lot of stuff is going to be said.

Speaker 5 There's no but after that. Just a lot of stuff is going to be said this week.

Speaker 1 That's it. I'm like, not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're not in a... Like, you just need the game to kick off because you're not.

Speaker 1 Well, no. You're not in exactly a.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say that you versus PFT in a battle of words, wits. I'm coaching.
It's not going to go. It's not going to go your way.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you're calling for daddy. You want daddy to to fly.
You're trying to fly out Roan.

Speaker 1 Facts. You need Roan.
Facts. You need him.

Speaker 5 For the record, I do not want Roan to fly out. Not because I don't like

Speaker 5 hanging out with Roan and being with him.

Speaker 5 Roan scares me. You need Roan.
Roan and Big Dom scare me. You need Roan.

Speaker 1 Bad. Real bad.

Speaker 1 Real, real bad. I mean, the words doesn't really, if the Eagles, it's just whoever wins.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, Roan will give you support to feel like you can fight a fight, and then, like, the backup is Conor Griffin. Yeah.
No, no, yeah.

Speaker 1 I love Conor Griffin. I love Conor Griffin.

Speaker 1 Is there a butt? Anything else?

Speaker 1 We said no butts.

Speaker 1 We did say no butts.

Speaker 5 I mean, also, Pug's here. Pug is here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Pug. Pug is an Eagles fan.

Speaker 5 Pug, you want to talk shit?

Speaker 5 No, no. It's NFC East Respect.
We respect each other.

Speaker 1 Love that. Love that Pug.
Is Jack here?

Speaker 5 Jack is here.

Speaker 1 Where is he? Pug. He's all the way back there.
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Speaker 1 Jack, Jack's a Lions fan.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 What do you got?

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 honestly, I will take that loss if if it means OSU loses tomorrow.

Speaker 1 But that's probably not going to happen.

Speaker 1 Yikes. I know.

Speaker 1 Who did you think you were making that deal with?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 5 Like, if this is the universe's plan, then you're kind of okay with it.

Speaker 1 We did establish that God is an AWL, so maybe you can tell him right now, like, hey, dude, I really need you to get OSU to lose. So Lions are obviously second behind Michigan football.
Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Man, that was really sad coming out of your mouth, dude. Because, like, OSU's probably going to win, and then you're going to have

Speaker 1 Lions loss, and then.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's going to be a rough week. That's a hell of a cope that he's in right now.
Yeah. Like,

Speaker 1 you went to bed on Saturday night, and you're like, well, at least this probably means that OSU is going to lose.

Speaker 1 There's a chance.

Speaker 5 All the bad things can't happen.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. All right, I'm rooting for Notre Dame now, for your sake.
Thank you.

Speaker 5 It's funny that Notre Dame is like the plucky underdog.

Speaker 1 Yeah. America's rooting for Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 Nobody believes in them.

Speaker 1 Okay, numbers: 17,

Speaker 1 5, 8, 3.

Speaker 1 99, put

Speaker 1 11,

Speaker 1 45,

Speaker 1 21,

Speaker 1 85.

Speaker 5 Love You guys.