
Paul Bissonnette, NFL Christmas Day And The Bears New Low, Week 17 Picks And Preview + New Years Resolutions
The Bears hit a new low on a stand alone primetime game (00:00:00-00:09:26). We talk Christmas NFL and the Chiefs wrap up the 1 seed while the Ravens keep rolling (00:09:26-00:37:20). Week 17 picks and preview including our New Years Resolutions in place of the Titans/Jags game (00:37:20-01:37:38). TD Parlay and fantasy Fuccbois (01:37:38-01:44:57). Our good friend Paul Bissonnette joins the show to talk about his 1 on 7 with the Irish Travelers, hockey season, glass bang kid, and the Chiclets lives show in Chicago on Sunday (01:44:57-02:26:40). We finish with Fyre fest of the week (02:26:40-02:35:29).
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On today's Pardon My Take, we have our good friend Paul Bissonette on the show
talking about his fight with the Irish Travelers.
Maybe a little preview of the NHL preview, which we're not ready to do yet,
but he does get us ready for some hockey. He took us around the league.
Yeah, around the league. Great interview with him.
He's the best. We're going to talk some football.
We have week 17 picks in preview. The Bears played on a standalone game.
It was horrific. We're going to talk a little Christmas Day games, maybe a little NBAba as well ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working nah neither has ariot ariot work jackets and boots are packed with all the cold stopping waterproof protection you need to get the job done under any conditions so you can take any job out there and always deliver check out ariot in your local workwear retailer or visit Ariat.com slash work
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Today is Friday, December 27th, and I just to apologize to america for what they had to watch
with the bears on their final prime time game of the year the final thursday night football game of the year um holy shit was it horrific six to three seahawks win i just want this season to be over so badly. It's such a complete disaster and mess, and it feels, again, like there's no way out.
I'm still going to stay optimistic about Caleb, but he was bad. The whole team's bad.
Defense was good. Yeah, defense actually – I thought the defense was going to give up a million yards after the first drive, and then they didn't.
Yeah, Brian Poles did an interview before the game and said that some of the slow starts are some of the things that weren't fixed in training camp. So he's talking about training.
He's blaming training camp in week 17. Fire this whole fucking organization to the sun.
I'm so sick of it. I apologize again from the bottom of my heart.
That is some of the worst football. Like, it's just a perfect fitting end to not only the Bears playing standalone games, but Thursday night football.
The only thing I'm worried about is, like, Kirk Herbstreet, our good friend, he's going to get even more aggro after having to watch that. And, like, he's going to be in just a sour, sour mood next week
after having to watch that.
So I apologize to everyone.
It was a horrific game.
They're a horrific organization.
They're a complete joke.
George McCaskey should feel shame.
He won't feel shame.
Fans rightfully were booing.
Fans also got Thomas Brown, who can't figure out a clock
to save his life.
I think he might have been behind the Detroit collapse on Thanksgiving to go for it on fourth and five with like 2.15 left. I was like, fuck it, just punt it.
I don't even care. What does it matter? But this is the dumbest organization ever, and I apologize to everyone.
Also, the Seahawks are bad. Can we just say that the Seahawks are really bad as well? Because 6-3 is not a game you should be in with the Bears.
Yeah, you shouldn't feel good about yourself if you're the Seahawks are really bad as well because like you shouldn't six to three is not a game you should be in with the Bears yeah you shouldn't feel good about yourself if you're the Seahawks for sure and it's it's mean what Roger Goodell keeps doing to my good friend Big Cat and and making them play primetime games right when you think you're done oh no we've got another Bears primetime game it's meaner what they're doing a Big Cat than what he did to Hank and Tom Brady the Patriots Roger. Roger Goodell is a bigger dickhead for making Big Cat be exposed to the Bears in primetime all these times this year.
Then deflate gate sanctions? Yep. I'll say.
I mean, next year the schedule will come out and they'll do it again. They'll just be like, fuck it, I'll do it again.
So, so big cat, there's some coaching search news for the bears. So this is the other part of this.
Yeah. Let's talk about it.
So Ben Johnson's still like, you're going to interview Ben Johnson. He's intrigued.
Yeah. He's intrigued by Caleb Williams balls.
They whistle and he likes that. Pete Carroll has also thrown his hat into the ring as he did with with the Jets.
But he wouldn't mind coaching the Bears, apparently. Or maybe it was his agent saying that to drum up interest.
I don't know. It depends on which side you fall on in the Schefter-Florio dispute.
Yeah. So this was news, I think, on Christmas morning that Pete Carroll would like a job.
Everyone wants a head coaching job in the NFL.
These are the reports that, like,
why don't you just put everyone's name?
Have a list.
Have a huge list.
Like, hey, listen, Ben McAdoo wants a job.
Matt Patricia wants a head coaching job.
Rex Ryan, Ron Rivera, Pete Carroll.
Just go down the whole list of guys that want a head coaching job in the NFL because they all want a job because they're the best jobs in the world in terms of like pay and the height of your profession. As for Pete Carroll, he's a very good coach.
He's 73 years old. And guess what? Pete Carroll is exactly what the Bears will do.
They would do that where they'll just be like, you know what, we need someone stable to right the ship, to be a professional in Hallis Hall, instead of being like, hey, why don't we try to just pay Ben Johnson $20 million and be like, hey, yeah, you know what, Ben Johnson might not work out, but at least we tried to get the best possible hire out there instead of being like, oh, won a super bowl a decade ago cool let's bring him in that will be fun he's 70 fucking three years old it's john fox all over again john fox all over again at least p carroll won a super bowl yeah i think i think there's like a difference between john fox and p carroll he's got a little bit more energy to him. But, yeah, it's like a very safe hire for them to do.
The only safer hire in their mind, in their fucked up mind,
would probably be Ron Rivera because of the ties back to the 85 Bears.
And he was a defensive coordinator there for a long time.
Did you see that article?
It was in the New York Times or The Athletic.
It said, the Bears need a coach who holds players accountable. Look no further than Ron Rivera.
Again, I like Ron Rivera. He's a friend of the show.
Great guy. But this is my point that I was just saying every single one of these guys wants this job because you get paid a shitload of money to coach an NFL team.
So that doesn't mean like it would just be so bears to go hire Pete Carroll. Like that's what they would do.
They would do it. And then they'd be like, listen, this guy is stability.
And we need to get, you know, we, we need, we need someone who knows how to win and a culture and all the 73 years old. Go fucking give Ben Johnson every last dollar in your bank account, George McCaskey.
And, and, If Ben Johnson turns out to be a bad coach, I can't be mad that they at least tried. You know what I mean? They went and tried to get the number one guy out there.
Wouldn't you guys say he's the number? I mean, Mike Vrabel obviously is also a number one guy out there. But go get the number one guy.
I would say the safest guy is Mike Vrabel. Right.
Well, no, Pete Carroll will be the safest in terms of like, you know, Pete Carroll won't have a two-win season. Vrabel's going to be a good head coach.
Yes. He might not drive the price tag that Ben Johnson's driving right now because he's going to have a crazy bidding war for his services.
But I feel like if you're going to try to save on price, just get Vrabel. He's going to be a great coach.
Yeah, I love Mike Vrabel. If Mike Vrabel's the coach of the Bears, I'll be very happy.
I just want them to once go and get the number one guy, the guy that everyone's like, holy shit, Ben Johnson. And it probably won't happen.
I'll say it almost definitely won't happen, but at least go try. Don't say fucking Pete Carroll.
I just want to get to the playoffs. I don't have to think about the Bears.
I just don't want to even, they're not worth anything. They should sell the team.
You know what the McCaskies should do? They should sell the team for $100, what their family bought the team for, and be like, you know what? We did such a bad job, we're going to sell it for $100. Do a lottery.
You've been watching Yellowstone? Someone gets to win the Bears. Yeah.
Yeah. Sell it to a Native American tribe for what they stole it for.
I like that. Yes.
I have not been watching Yellowstone, but I'm in. Okay.
Should we talk some Christmas Day games? Some actual football that actually matters. The Chiefs, 15-1, clinched the one seed.
They now have like 24 days off. I don't care what – you know, people can poke holes in the Chiefs and be like, they're not impressive because they haven't scored over 30 points
and they've had a couple close calls.
They're going to win the Super Bowl again.
Just accept it.
Like, if you don't accept it, I hope it doesn't happen.
I want to see the Bills win the Super Bowl.
I want to see, you know, a new team get to the Super Bowl
that hasn't been to the Super Bowl in a long time.
You have to say in your head, like, what's going to end up happening is the Chiefs now with the one seed, their second round game is going to be a team that they will kill, and then they will play one game to get to the Super Bowl. They will have one tough game to get to the Super Bowl, and it will be at Arrowhead, and they deserve it because they're the best team in football right now, 15-1.
But just think about it in your head, who they're going to have to play in their first playoff game is going to be like the Texans or the Steelers or the Broncos or the Chargers, like one of those teams, and they're going to fucking demolish them. So you can't even do the rest versus Russ because they're going to get a tune-up game, and then they just have to beat the Bills or the Ravens at home, and they'll be in the Super Bowl.
And then it's Patrick Holmes in the Super Bowl. That's exactly it.
It's going to be probably the Texans or the Steelers in the first round, two teams that they've already beaten this year. They decided they whooped the shit out of the Steelers in that second half.
They beat the Texans pretty convincingly, so they're going to have to play one of those two teams at Arrowhead, and then they're going to play, in all likelihood, the Bills or the Ravens. But they get it at home.
So congratulations to the Chiefs. You guys did it.
You've won almost all your games, even though there were a lot of close ones. It's the Chiefs.
And I'm still impressed by the Chiefs. Oh, me too.
Their offense is looking good, like actually good. Patrick Mahomes is throwing the ball in like under a second.
They're getting the ball out of his hands. The offense looks alive.
The running game looks pretty good. They're just, yeah, it's not even frustrating to me because like, yeah, I would ultimately like to see another team, like a team that maybe hasn't won in a long time, win a Super Bowl.
But at the same, they're so good. It's kind of like the Steph Curry effect where you're like, it's still kind of entertaining to watch greatness at this level.
So congrats to the Chiefs. I watched the Chiefs-a-holic documentary today.
Have you guys seen that yet? No, I haven't. I need to.
I recommend it. We show up in there for about three seconds.
It's Billy asking if he can go hunt down Chiefs-a-holic when he skipped bail. And us saying, yes saying yes please go go hunt him down um also the hard factor guys are in there robbie fox is in there for about a quarter of a second somehow of it that part didn't make any sense um but yeah good documentary chiefs aholic's gonna be very happy in his prison cell somewhere it's they're just inevitable they are they're just really really fucking good and we've said this before but if you are someone who is sitting there being like, the Chiefs aren't that good, they're lucky to be 15-1.
I can't stress enough how stupid that sounds because they are just the best coach team with the best quarterback, and it might not look pretty, but when they need – like if you make a mistake against the Chiefs, the way they're set up and the guys that they have, they will always capitalize. And every single mistake is magnified by that much because you have Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and Chris Jones on the other side.
We didn't even play against the Steelers. They're just really good at football.
And to discredit them is silly at this point. And, oh, yeah, they got Hollywood yeah and xavier worthy who we talked about is starting to work his way in like he's gonna be a big big factor in the playoffs and a pretty rested healthy travis kelsey and oh yeah their coach is literally santa claus so good luck with that it rocks as for the steelers i'm so happy that i didn't always go all the way in on the Steelers I always was one foot in one foot out because that team is a fraud and they just did the same thing that they've done every single year where they win more games than you expect and then at the end of the season they start to to to fall off a cliff and they're limping into the playoffs here after losing to the Eagles the Raven Ravens, and the Chiefs, who are all very good teams.
Like, if you ask me, are the Steelers better than 20 teams in the NFL? Yeah, they are. But they're nowhere near the top five teams in the NFL, and that's what you judge it on, especially in a town like Pittsburgh.
They're just not to be taken seriously in the AFC playoffs. Yeah, I mean, I think they can beat the Texans.
But, I mean, the Texans are bad too.
Texans aren't looking so good, but I think they can beat the Texans.
They might just be right outside that Chiefs, Ravens, Bills kind of.
They're not serious.
If they're not, it doesn't mean that they're a bad team.
I think that they're a good team, actually.
They're just not going to win it. They're not good.
They're not to be taken seriously. They're not they're a bad team.
I think that they're a good team, actually. They're just not going to win it.
They're not to be taken seriously.
They're not playing for a Super Bowl.
Correct.
Yeah, they're just not.
They're not playing.
There's no world where they're going to win three playoff games in January.
Yeah, it's still a cool Russ Wilson story.
I think.
What do you do with him now?
I think you kind of just let him hang around. Resign him? For how much? I think you wait to see if he comes to you and asks you for a contract.
You just hope it's an on-auto renew? Yeah. At the current price? Yeah, you just kind of wait him out.
Maybe just do that. Maybe just send him an email.
Congratulations. Your contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers has auto renewed for the next 12 months the same price at one million dollars yeah that I I don't think that you like pay him a shitload of money um but I make make him an insulting offer and see how insulted he is at it I I do feel bad for oh yeah the yeah, the Steelers also – memes just texted this.
They have an issue on defense because basically it was like Cam Hayward, T.J. Watt, I think Patrick Queen, they all have been alluding to there's one guy who's just not doing their job.
It seems like people are thinking this might be Minka, but I don't know. But Cam Hayward said when 10 guys do their job, one guy doesn't, we are screwed.
And there's been these like weird things, quotes the last three weeks, that it feels like there's a big problem on the defensive side in that locker room and someone's not pulling their weight. So I don't, I mean, Tomlin's a guy who can figure it out, but I also, Steelers fans I feel bad for because most of the NFL looks at the Steelers and they're like, I want that, never going under .500.
Mike Tomlin, I think, is still a very good coach, but the Steelers fans and the city of Pittsburgh, they are one of those franchises that judges on Super Bowls. So, like, I can say I want what the Steelers have, but then the Steelers are like, hey, we haven't won a playoff game in like seven years.
This is bullshit. And this is – I think it was the fourth time in the past six years the Steelers have lost three consecutive games in December.
So this is just kind of what they've been doing. So I feel bad for Steelers fans because for the majority of the NFL, we're jealous of what you have, but Steelers fans are like, no, no, no, this is not Steelers football.
We are not a serious contender. They kind of have been dealing with it, though.
Like, yeah, they're not happy with it. Steelers fans aren't happy with it, but the organization is okay with it.
They have to be. The model, I don't know what – I just feel bad for Steelers fans because they're like...
You can't... If you're a Steelers fan and you complain to a lot of people in the outside world, they're like, dude, shut up.
You guys never go under 500. But their standard is different.
So I understand their complaints. And it's definitely Minka.
That's the guy he's talking about. Yes, definitely Minka.
Definitely. If you saw the most recent uh the last two games he's just i he's just like completely freelancing when he comes in trying to tackle and run support he's just yeah he'll be in the wrong channel and then it'll be a 50 yard run and it's all because he took the wrong angle on it and they're not even like that that was such a mike tomlin spot on christmas day chiefs don't want to have to go there.
Chiefs don't. All they got to do is win one of their last two games.
Underdog at home for Mike Tomlin. And they just got absolutely worked.
It wasn't really a competitive game. No.
Well, the first half, at the end of the first half, I thought it was going to be competitive because they put together a nice little drive, and you thought maybe, but then second half was just all Chiefs. Yeah.
And then for the other game, I mean, that was a shit kicking. What was the final score? 31 to 2? 2.
Not a scorigami, right? Not a scorigami. Not a scorigami.
The Ravens absolutely killed the Texans. The Texans are in a bad, bad spot.
Let's talk about the Texans real quick, and then I want to talk about Lamar and the Ravens. CJ Stroud has regressed.
I know there's a lot of things around him that are not going well. Two out of two out of his top three wide receivers got hurt his offensive line is a joke but he's regressed and i i don't know what else to say like he he was anointed uh and we did we did it too we're just you know like some of that talk about being like he's so good and and his contract so cheap like he has not been good this year.
Who would you rather have, C.J. Stroud or Bryce Young?
I ask again.
Redraft.
Redraft.
Definitely C.J. Stroud.
But, yeah, they're a sad offense to watch right now.
Mixon looked like he was going to get into the end zone,
and then once he got stopped at the one,
it felt like nothing at all went the Texans' way.
You're probably not looking forward very much to that opening round playoff game if you're the Texans. No.
It's like you would rather just try to lick your wounds and be like, okay, let's regroup, try to get people healthy if we can. They couldn't do anything with Derrick Henry, couldn't do anything with Lamar.
Also, Derrick Henry, I don't know how we missed this. We haven't talked about this.
Derrick Henry cut his hair. Yeah.
He did a couple weeks ago. After the bye week.
Yeah. So he got – well, I guess it wasn't – I don't know if it was a haircut or not, but he turned the giant-ass braids into cornrows.
So you can no longer tackle Derrick Henry. That was his one – that's a surefire way to get him down, just grab that big clump of hair and jerk his neck backwards.
So he can't, that's championship mentality, by the way,
because he's been growing that out for probably 10 years.
And he's like, I'm going to change it for this playoff run.
I feel like that's a good vibe.
His head's in the game.
But they couldn't do anything with Lamar,
who just passed Michael Vick's record.
41 fewer games, by the way.
Yeah, it's insane. The defense couldn't do anything at all against him.
Also, shout out to Netflix. Shout out to Netflix.
The score bug was awesome. Score bug was cool.
It felt like it was classic. Minus the fact that they just took away a Steelers timeout to start the game.
That confused the fuck out of me. The game hadn't kicked off, and the Steelers had two timeouts.
But other than that, it was a good broadcast. But yeah, the Christmas Day solidified what we already knew, but it was like really crystallized that the AFC is the Chiefs, the Bills, the Ravens.
That's it. There's no one else.
Like those are the three teams and watching them duke it out. And this is why the Chiefs getting the one seed is so important because the Bills and the Ravens are going to have to play and then play the Chiefs.
But the Ravens are playing great ball, and Lamar is out of his mind. He said on the 48-yard touchdown run, he said he was just jogging.
He was 21.25 miles per hour, and Lamar Jackson has 41 games fewer than than michael vick all-time record he also has uh the second highest passer rating in a single nfl season this year so 2011 was uh aaron rogers 122.5 lamar this year is 121.6 he's been out of control you see that that uh after the game some news broke about Josh Allen's hand. He's been playing with a broken left hand all season.
And then people were saying, like, oh, is Josh doing, like, some PR work here because Lamar had such a good game? I wish they could both win MVP. I want there to be co-MVPs like there were.
It was Peyton Manning and Steve McNair, right? Yeah. As a messed up time to be alive.
2004?
I don't care.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
But yeah, Lamar seems like this game was a step towards maybe an MVP for him.
I just wish we could find out who was going to win MVP before they played
the playoffs because then I would bet on the other side.
Yeah.
That's it.
What were you going to say?
Beyonce.
Oh, didn't watch.
Your thoughts?
I was in Lego hell in this game.
I was in Lego hell. I just want to say that.
I did not watch the Beyonce halftime show.
I mean, they did this. They basically did a Super Bowl
halftime show. It was
a spectacle. Impressive.
I watched with the sound off. I thought it was pretty good.
There's our reviews. I saw people were mad about it online, so she probably did an okay job.
Was there any satanic imagery in this one? Yeah, there was some satanic imagery. There were some people talking about Jay--z and diddy so that means she did a good job i guess if you get people if people watch music a halftime music show and then take to uh what's the app called pft uh the everything app yeah they take to the everything app and they talk about how america's uh eroding and and and our country's going to going to shit off of a 10 minute musical performance at a half time of a football game that means they probably did a good job yeah i would i would agree as somebody who watched it with the sound off i think at one point she did that uh texas hold'em song one where it's like, down, down.
That's a great song. It probably sounded good if you listened to it.
There's another note from the halftime show. They were all wearing Cowboys gear.
What? Yeah, her album's called Cowboy Carter. But it was like the same colors as the Dallas Cowboys.
You know what it was? You know what it was? It was probably Goodell sending his smoke signal that the Cowboys are going to play a triple header next year on Christmas day. After what LeBron said.
They were in, it was in Texas. Yeah.
But the Cowboys weren't in the game and they were wearing stuff that said Cowboy Carter. This is a Philly complaint if I've ever heard one.
This is a Philly complaint. I was not the only one that said that.
Well, yeah. It was probably other Philly people.
And your dad all sitting in your living room. Did you know until just now that her album was called Cowboy Carter? No, I did not.
Max is definitely... There were multiple people in my household who were pissed about this Cowboys gear they were wearing.
Why did it have to be that color? Yeah, Max, it was... Max, if they had the Eagles playing at a halftime show, you think actually, yeah, Cowboys fans would be pissed about that.
See, Max, I can appreciate this complaint.
This is a complaint more in my wavelength than being like the, say, Titanic imagery and all that shit.
That shit's always over my head.
But just a pissed off, like way too full Max with his broken foot,
probably leaking farts out of his ass, being like,
what the fuck are the Cowboys gear on?
Also may not exactly be the Cowboys color, but it was the Cowboys font.
It's whatever that like Houston blue is, their uniform.
Battle blue.
I think there's a lot of white, wasn't it? It was a lot of white uniforms. Cowboys were white.
How many games do you guys think we're getting next year on Christmas after what LeBron said? I think we get six. No, no.
They won't do a full slate. They'll do three.
But Goodell might just be like, you know what? Fuck you, LeBron. 9 a.m.
football. NFL on Christmas is the only thing that matters.
Only sport that matters. Christmas is the NBA's day.
I like how he said that after the game. He knew what the ratings were already.
Just because he felt good about how he played on Christmas. In LeBron, listen, I know christmas has historically been the nba's day but historically it's been jesus's day it's been jesus's day but i'm saying like in the sports world it has been the nba's day uh lebron i i don't know if you knew this but like the nfl whatever they want they're gonna take and you can't say shit about it because I watched, I't watch a second of because that was the other thing the fuck you by the nfl is being like we're doing it on netflix so you can't even flip back and forth yeah i watched you can't log out of the app there's no there's no channel changing i basically my nba watching on on christmas day was literally just the sandwich of the football i watched the first quarter of the Spurs and Knicks game, and I watched the fourth quarter of the Warriors-Lakers game.
It was just when football wasn't on, I turned on the basketball. Yeah, so I was at a party and I got schooled by two middle schoolers.
The first thing, I got schooled by a middle school girl
who told me all these stats about Travis Kelsey
and how great he is that I didn't even know.
And I was like, fuck, you really know football
because she's a Taylor Swift fan.
And then there was another middle school guy
that right when the NBA games kicked off, he goes,
can we please change the channel off the NBA?
This product is unwatchable.
And I was like, yeah, you guys know ball.
Yeah.
The Lakers Warriors game was great.
Now, so Max and Hank, you guys went up against each other.
You fought on the text chain where it was just, you guys were just congratulating each
other back and forth for what felt like a half hour.
Any thoughts on the game? Hank, I'll let you start. Max, I'll kick it to you.
No, you can go ahead on this one. Congrats.
Congrats. Yeah, Sixers are back.
Everyone knows the NBA starts on Christmas. The Sixers are 1-0 in the NBA season this year.
The Celtics are 0-1. That's the only way that you can really look at it, and that's just a fact.
All right. Are you back out of the Cooper flag business? Out of Cooper flag.
Officially out on Cooper flag. 11 wins on Christmas.
You got one more than you told us you were going to get. We also said that if the Sixers beat the Celtics on Christmas, that counts as 10 wins in itself.
Wow.
That was part of the stipulation.
Is Joel okay?
Yeah.
He played great.
He tripped over a Joel beat and Bryson DeChambeau.
Don't put any ropes near those guys.
I'm just going to ignore that. That was a nothing thing that Twitter got excited about for no reason.
One thing that is relevant is Caleb Martin might be the Celtic killer. That might be the difference.
I hate that guy. Caleb Martin, he has been horrendous this year and all of a sudden shows up on Christmas Day, goes seven of nine from three and just buries every single shot against the C's.
He's a Celtic killer. He's going to be the difference maker this year.
We'll always say to Al Horford, I don't understand why he plays so well against the Sixers every single time. Yeah, I mean, listen, it was a good win for the Sixers.
Obviously, they're not that good of a team. I wouldn't say it was a championship DVD starting win, but it is like when they're in the play-in game in April, they'll probably have to run some video to start that game, and it will probably start with the Christmas game.
So that's little victories, and I'm happy for Max. Congrats.
Hank, you're so mad because you don't... You're so mad.
You just gave them life. There are still six games under .500.
They're one game ahead of their progress report, which was 10 wins on Christmas. It sucks Jerry McCain's out for the season because then I'd be really worried, but
yeah, I mean, if you're counting
on Caleb Martin to black out and hit every
shot every game, good luck with that.
That's not a winning formula.
Against the Celtics, he does.
Against the Celtics, he cooks the Celtics. He's the
Celtic killer.
Yeah, we'll see in the playoffs
I guess if you guys make it.
I like that though, Hank. It's the play-in-game hype video for the Fixers.
Yeah. Eight and three in their past 11.
Sixers are eight and three in their past 11. Two words for you, Max.
Mack McClung. Do it.
Call him up. Do it.
I don't even know if he's still in the organization, to be honest with you. How did that name just come to your...
Okay, so at this same Christmas party, I was talking to the world's number one Mac McClung fan, probably even more so than his parents. And by the end of it, I'd watched all the highlights.
I was like, it is bullshit that he's not in the league. The Sixers should bring him back.
He's on the Osceola magic. I'm like visualizing you sitting at the kids' table for some reason during all these discussions.
Oh, no. It was a podcast meme from the basement.
Yeah, with three kids sitting on the couch. Yeah.
Bring him back. Bring him back, Max.
I made a promise to a child.
Oh, man.
All right.
Jason Tatum will just forever be able to get
away with push-offs until the end of time.
It's incredible. Every single time
he shoots
a three, he just completely
pushes off to create separation
every time, and then he whines that he got fouled. Jason Tatum is just as much of a whiner as Joel Embiid I will stand on that hill Jason Tatum push off whiner okay so the Celtics Sixers game had 5.1 million viewers the Ravens Texans game again what was the score that 31 to 2 31 to 2 they had Beyonce 20 3 million viewers uh yeah the only thing I didn't really love about the broadcast was how it seemed like I don't know what the rules are but they had people from like every channel now it was like the Avengers that they brought in where it's like they have hosts of people from ESPN, NFL network, Amazon.
They like mixed it all together.
And they're like, here's our studio.
And then they had Netflix rules analyst, Gene Steratore.
And I was like, that's not right.
He's not Netflix rules analyst.
I don't know what the rules are, but they can just pick anybody off.
Shout out CM Punk who went on before the game and was like, sell the team. George Mokowski, you're a piece of shit.
I like that. But, yeah, you're right.
It was the Avengers. It was like, wait, RG3 and Mina Kimes and who else? Oh, Manti Tao? Manti Tao from NFL Network was on there.
Drew Brees? Was he on there? Yeah, I think he was. I'm surprised.
I was waiting for a jump scare cut to tony dungy to to frighten everybody yeah jj watt did a good job on the first game like it was yeah it was it was both the eagles yep calling the games uh but yeah the uh it was a good listen i'll watch football a hundred times out of a 100 times over NBA. I will – I still love the NBA playoffs.
And that fourth quarter of the Lakers-Warriors was awesome because that was throwback. Steph hitting that three and then Austin Reeves, terrible defense.
Austin Reeves went right to the cup. But that was an awesome game.
Like I had a lot of fun watching that. Good job, NBA.
Good job, NBA. But yeah, I wouldn't pick a fight with Roger Goodell because I seriously think the Cowboys might play a quadruple header on Christmas Day next year.
What would be the ideal Christmas Day matchup for the NFL? Oh, if you don't think the Chiefs and the Bills are going to play, no, it's going to be Chiefs and Bills, and then it might be Cowboys-Eagles. It's going to be – Roger Goodell is going to drop the hammer on the NBA with the matchups because it's also a Thursday game, so it's like it won't be as weird with the Wednesday stuff.
He's going to drop the hammer on the NBA. What about Aaron Rodgers comes back,
Jets at Packers?
He'll be the Vikings quarterback next year,
probably. Vikings at Packers.
No, but
if I had to predict it,
it's going to be
Bills,
Chiefs,
it might even be Ravens, Bengals,
and then Cowboys, Eagles,
or Cowboys, Lions.
It's going to be
I'll see you next time. Chiefs.
It might even be Ravens Bengals and then Cowboys Eagles or Cowboys Lions. Like it's going to be awesome.
The triple header that Roger Goodell, he's going to drop his nutsack on Adam Silver's face and bet all the away teams because Christmas, like if the games are on Christmas, you don't think that the away teams have a big advantage on that? Oh, yeah. There's my under theory that is no longer existing, but it worked for like a decade on NBA unders.
I think it's a little bit different even with the NFL because the road teams, they don't have to worry about having a big meal Christmas Eve, Christmas morning. It's like the opposite of the baby bump.
When you're a home team and you have your parents in town that you're hosting you actually play lethargic having relatives in town is is a detriment to your game what did we have last year christmas it was uh was it raiders chiefs nfl uh eagles played the giants 49ers played eagles played the giants yeah the Raiders Chiefs? NFL. Eagles played the Giants.
49ers played.
Eagles played the Giants.
Yeah, the Raiders won.
The Eagles did win.
They were home.
And then the Ravens won.
So two and one road teams.
Yeah.
Eagles almost blew that game, though.
They were.
Well, they blew every game last year.
True.
True.
Very good point.
Hank, can you set a reminder for Christmas next year, the most important thing is to bet on the road teams? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, it's sad. My NBA unders.
We had a hell of a run. It's just they shoot too many threes now.
It was eight years in a row where it was a sound investment, where it was just every single Christmas day, it would go two-1 unders for the first three games or 3-0.
Bare minimum, 2-1.
Because they would just all be like, I just ate a big breakfast.
I opened presents to my kids.
I didn't do shoot around.
And now I'm here playing an NBA game.
Because you've got to think that the road teams celebrate
when they get back home, right?
Yeah, big time.
They don't do it early.
Big time. Okay.
Good show, boys. We're going to kick it to ourselves for some week 17.
Pick some preview. Make sure you listen to our really in-depth Jaguars-Titans preview, and then we will see you on Monday.
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Okay, boys, weekend preview. We've got a lot of games that mean absolutely nothing.
We've got a few games that mean a lot. Should we start with Saturday? Saturday, Saturday, Saturday.
Hank, there is Saturday football again. Just so you know.
I know. Patriots are playing.
Oh, okay. Alright.
He's aware there's Saturday football. We got that at least covered.
Let's start with that game. Chargers at Patriots.
Patriots plus... 10 a.m.
for me. I'm in San Diego.
It's delightful. Oh, wow.
10 a.m. football.
10 a.m. football.
It's a true house divided for Hank. Who are you rooting for? The city of San Diego? The LA Chargers or the city of New England? I had to put all my bets in before I left Chicago because they don't have DraftKings in California.
I bet the Patriots, but I'm, as usual, kind of rooting for them to lose. Okay, so Patriots plus four.
What did you get them at? Over-runners 42.5. Let me check.
You might have got them even better because I think it came down. I think he had some sharp money on it.
Did you guys see Jim Harbaugh had a quote this week that was, you know, sir, we asked if this was your handwriting. He was asked about playing in the cold in Foxborough.
And he said, these guys are young. They're healthy and their heart pumps warm blood.
It pumps it from the arteries to the veins, the tributaries to the capillaries throughout their whole body. You just play ball.
Now, I might have gotten that in the wrong order there as well documented i'm not a doctor yeah i saw that that was literally my only note on this game besides bust hank's balls for going up against his home city uh yeah um the only other thing that i really thought about going into this is i'd like to see stone smart score touchdown just because he's got a very underrated name oh well the chargers do have the best name in football and jim harbaugh that was his other one he said it was one of the great names in football dicaprio booty dicaprio booty yeah dicaprio boodle yeah um it's a great quote by harbaugh i'm not a doctor either uh but i'm pretty sure that young guys and old guys when their hearts beat it doesn't matter if you're young. It sends the blood through your body.
But he's not wrong. Young guys do it too.
Yeah, and also he's not wrong. Old guys, definitely the cold weather bothers them more.
That's why everyone moves south when they get older in retirement. Yeah, the only thing I had noted in this game was Chargers clinched the playoffs with a win.
I do think that Drake May has been, this might be Drake May's best game. I'm going to say it right now, Hank, because he's kind of flirting with it.
He's had some really nice games. He's had some really nice moments.
That Bills game, almost taking down the Bills in Buffalo last week, it wouldn't shock me if Drake May just goes nuts in this game because the Chargers defense has been fading a little bit, and you're like, holy shit, how did the Patriots just beat the Chargers? Is this going to tell us actually whether or not Drake May is a good quarterback? Because the Chargers defense is very, very good against bad quarterbacks, and they're not so great against good quarterbacks. So this might be a Drake May.
Which side are you on game? Yeah, this could be. This could be the litmus test for Drake May, what will happen in this game.
So, Hank, you're rooting for Drake May to go off and the Patriots to lose, but also come. I bet the money line, so I'm actually rooting for him to win this game, which I don't know why I did that.
Oh, wow. I got him plus 195.
It's plus 185 now. Okay.
That's huge. Hank, does this have anything to do with you rooting against the Chargers? No.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Hank would love nothing more than for the Chargers not even to make the playoffs.
He would love it because if they make the playoffs,
my reasoning on the Chargers' future wasn't completely unsound.
It was always get to the playoffs, maybe win a game, and then you can hedge out.
So if they don't make the playoffs, Hank can laugh in my face and be like,
hungry dog, boo-boo-boo-boo-boo-boo.
No, I also think I've been pretty honest with the Chargers. Like I said, when they won that Thursday night game, they showed me something.
I did not think that they were a good team. I thought they were fraudulent and that it was a dumb bet.
They showed me something with that Thursday night game. People can change.
People can't change. The moment of realization on Hank's face when he realized that even his subconscious is a troll when he puts in these types of bets, it's pretty excellent.
Well, that was like I literally was just firing through. It was a week away.
I don't know exactly why I picked the Patriots' money line, but I did. And maybe, yeah, maybe it was my subconscious.
The Chargers are going to maybe get J.K. Dobbins back.
Not probably this week, but his practice window open. That is enormous.
But, I mean, I'll be honest. I obviously would love if the Chargers could win a playoff game, but the 6-7 seed in the AFC are just heading for, like, an absolute ass-k or Baltimore.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's we probably already talked about this with the Chiefs or we haven't talked about the Chiefs yet. I get confused when we record these out of order.
But the fact of the matter is really not hard. We were doing a show opening with the Chiefs and Christmas Day in the Bears game.
Well, we already talked about that. So we Yeah.
Yeah. But you also could save it.
No, yeah. We've already talked about it.
That was your point, which is really smart. Yeah, it was really smart what you said.
I agree. Yeah.
Okay. All right.
Broncos at Bengals. This game actually means something.
It means a lot. It means a lot.
The Bengals Bengals though are probably fucked because the Broncos have to lose out for the Bengals to have a chance they also need the Colts and the and the Dolphins to drop a game now the Chiefs can rest everyone it looks like that's not going to happen but they're going to try to win this game obviously and Riley Moss should be back do you know, this was actually courtesy of our friend and future recurring guest, because we have to have him on at some point, Ben Baby. The Cincinnati Bengals have not beaten a QB1 this year.
I did not know that. Yes, the QBs they have beaten are Andy Dalton, Mac Jones.
Oh, I guess was it Deshaun?
Deshaun Watson, I guess, would be one of the QB ones.
So maybe it's not just QB ones.
It's just really bad QBs because Andy Dalton, Mac Jones, Deshaun Watson,
Gardner Minshew, Cooper Rush, Will Levis, and DTR.
Yeah. So Will Levis is QB1.
It was QB1. It was QB1.
Yeah. And Deshaun Watson was QB1.
And there was another one that you mentioned. Gardner, I think, was.
Gardner Minshew. So I misquoted Ben, baby.
It's just, oh, sorry, not beating a current QB1. So current QB1, which is fact.
But also, if you list all those QBs, they're terrible. Yeah, pretty bad.
I did not realize that. Cooper Rush is the best one.
Cooper Rush is the best quarterback I listed. You don't think about the Bengals that way because they do score such a fuckload of points that you think, oh, it's not just but their defense is just that bad where they have to have a bad quarterback that they're going against if they have a chance of outscoring that person.
I looked up the stats for Burrow and Chase, and I did not realize that the Bengals, their quarterback, leads the league in passing yards. Their wide receiver one leads the league in reception yards, and they also have the number one sack getter in the NFL this year on defense, and they still stick.
yeah and they still suck because their pass rush as a whole is bad which yeah makes you think that Bo Nix might have a oh Bo Nix is good game because Bo Nix basically has Bo Nix is good games when he has a clean pocket and then whenever he has a little bit of pressure it's oh the Denver Broncos defense is good yeah we're going to figure out whether or not Lou Anarumo's got a little bit of Greg Williams in him this week. Because with Mahomes being out, would you be surprised if they hit Bo Nix a little extra hard? They hit Mahomes? Yeah, I mean, they have to figure out some way to get pressure on them because they can't get pressure.
They're 22nd in the league in pressure rate. So they've got to figure out something.
If they also need the Broncos to lose the Chiefs next week, what would Greg Williams do? That's what I'm saying. We'll see how old school Anarumo is.
You don't think Zach Wilson could beat the Chiefs? Well, it's going to be Carson Wentz, right? Yeah, but Zach Wilson will be the Broncos' backup. Yeah.
Anybody can beat Carson Wentz. Yeah.
Maybe Zach Wilson carrying the Broncos to the playoffs. Here's another crazy stat for you.
Patrick Sertan this year has allowed a passer rating of 39.1 when targeted. A QB's passer rating would be higher if they threw it in the ground on each pass.
39.6. So it's smarter just to throw it into the ground than test Patrick's for 10.
And Riley Moss should be back, which makes a huge difference because the Broncos defense without Riley Moss, they basically are fucked because they don't have another corner. Yeah, they're forcing us to learn the names of all the anonymous crush like John Gruden calls them.
We're up to, what, three now? Yeah. Let's just chill at three.
Three's good. Because it's like a compliment to their defense if you can't name any more than that and you just know that they're fucking awesome.
Yeah, and you don't want to. I mean, anonymous crush is a great nickname.
If we learn too many, you can't do that nickname anymore. Yeah, I had several Anonymous Crushes back in my day.
I want the Bengals in the playoffs. I don't think the Bengals are going to make the playoffs.
It doesn't look good for them. I was hoping for the Steelers to do their part just because I feel like the playoffs will be that much more chaotic.
They might not win, but you know you can circle that one and be like, be a fun ass game yeah i wait i gotta find it because uh our good friend mike florio go get his book uh it might not be free anymore but you should still buy it he had one of the dumbest hypotheticals ever um oh yeah here it is ready if you're the chiefs would you rather have the number one seed but the bangles make the playoffs or the number two seed and the Bengals don't make the playoffs? That's a very interesting hypothetical. I think I'd rather have the buy and home field advantage and not worry about the Cincinnati Bengals who can't beat a good quarterback all year.
Yeah. Would you rather play the Bills or the Ravens in round two or the Steelers? Or let's see, I guess it would be the Steelers, the Texans round two.
Well, I guess his thought process was the Bengals would win their first round game. So then the Chiefs would have to play the Bengals in the second round because of the reseed.
I don't think that the Steelers would win a first round game. They would make an entertaining game.
It would be very, very fun to watch, but we've seen enough. There's enough body of evidence out there on the Bengals this year to know that they're just not that good of a team overall.
Their offense is electric, but their defense is so, so fucked that it's beyond hope. Yeah.
Here are the quarterbacks again. Andy Dalton, Mack Jones, Deshaun Watson, Gardner Minshew, Cooper Rush, Will Levis, DTR.
Literally, the Cooper Rush is the one I would take out of all those. Yeah.
I think Cooper Rush might be QB1. Yeah.
He would be. Yeah.
You're right. We started that debate last.
People are having the discussion. Is Cooper Rush really the guy in Dallas? Not Dan.
You know me, big cat. I'm a results guy.
He's got them. He's got them playing hard.
All right, next game. This is the Saturday night game.
Cardinals at Rams. Rams minus 6.5, over under 48.
The only note I have from this is the Cardinals are dead. The Rams look like they're going to be in the playoffs.
They control their own destiny.
I would like to just say to Jonathan Gannon, shots, explosives, pew, pew, pew,
treat this game how it should be treated.
Treat it like a bowl game, not like Pat Narduzzi,
all-time coward moved by him in the whatever bowl that was, Toledo versus Pitt.
Treat it like a bowl game where you have nothing to lose,
and just empty the clip.
Get Trey McBride a touchdown.
Do trick plays.
Go for it on fourth down.
Fake punts.
Just empty the clip.
Just let them just be loose and just go nuts.
I just want to see a coach do that once.
Just fucking go crazy.
Jeff Olberg did it, but he did it in the most boring way ever where the Jets scored nine points in an entire game and never punted. Kyler Murray's the perfect guy to just empty the clip and do a bunch of fuck shit.
Yeah, I'd like to see that. You remember what happened week two with these teams? It feels like it was forever ago.
Week two, the Cardinals won 41- 10 against the rams which seems yes absolutely insane right now but the rams did not have puka in that game and puka i feel like puka is a wide receiver that like gives i don't know what his what his war is like how many wins he adds just by starting but i feel like it's a lot because i feel like everybody in the secondary is thinking, like, where's Puka all the time?
Yeah.
And he's obviously a dynamic pass catcher and great running with ball.
So it's going to be a different game.
I feel like it's going to be shit pumping,
but I do agree with you that you don't have anything to lose.
Like, the Cardinals fans are pissed off right now
because of the collapse that we've seen the second half of the season.
Like, at least give them something exciting.
Give them a team that does not give a fuck,
that will let their balls hang a little bit.
Thank you. of the collapse that we've seen the second half of the season, like at least give them, give them something exciting.
Give them,
give them a team that does not give a fuck that will let their balls hang a
little bit.
Right.
And,
and,
and it's not like there are a lot of teams that have nothing to play for,
but there's a lot of those teams don't even have the ability to do the fuck
shit I'm talking about.
Like the saints don't have anything to play for.
They're not going to be able to do anything crazy with Spencer Rattlerattler the the Cardinals still have an offense that could go crazy and nuclear just do it just like whatever crazy play you've always dreamed up that you're like now we can't try that it's too nuts do that play on Saturday night do it just go nuts they're not gonna have James Connor though I don't think right no I don't think so but still it might even be down to their third string running back get tree mcbride five touchdowns so that his season looks like he had a really like good season touchdown wise yeah they they tried to last game they drew something up for him in the first half didn't work out but yeah just it okay so either do all the fuck shit all the pew pew explosives don't let anybody name McVay hear that or you just make the entire game plan feed the ball to Trey McBride yes yeah that's one or the other because listen it's a Saturday night game we're all going to be watching the Cardinals have nothing to play for let us let us enjoy something crazy Give it to us. I'm asking you, Cardinals.
We deserve it. Saturday night football.
Jonathan Gannon, I will forever have loyalty towards you and never say a bad word against you ever again if you go for it on at least three fourth downs and there's at least three trick plays in this game. That's what I'm – you get full, pardon my take, immunity for life.
That's it. We'll never say a bad word against him.
Maybe even citizen of the year. Citizen of the year.
It's up there. Okay.
Sunday, Jets at Bills. Bills minus 9.5, over-unders 46.5.
Now, the Bills don't have anything to play for, but they kind of do. They have to still get the two seed.
They have to win one more game out of the last two. I don't know if you saw, but Josh Allen, he had a quote last week, I believe.
It was maybe after the Patriots game where he essentially was like, we're in this like weird zone where we know we're not going to get the one seed, but we, so we don't want to show too many things. So he basically was admitting that the game plan is probably going to be a little vanilla.
And this game, I don't even know what's like the Jets have a million injuries. Aaron Rodgers knees hurt.
So I don't even know what we're going to get out of the Jets. I don't really have any thoughts other than I'd probably take the under.
That's it. Yeah, I don't want to speak too much because Brick's definitely listening right now.
Also, shout out Brick. I hope they gave you more responsibility last week.
Let's get to work, buddy. I think that the Bills definitely do have...
They're going to try to play vanilla unless it's close and then they will they because they have to get the two seed they have and ideally you would like to be able to use next week to rest up correct so this is this is a game where i wouldn't mind seeing them open up the playbook a little bit if it's even remotely close just so that they can make sure that they don't have anything to worry about going to next week also shout out jack we always forget jack uh Jack bricks. Jack, Brick's trying to outshine you.
You're actually the real GM. We stand with Jack.
You just say the word, and we'll go against Brick and be Team Jack. But we're not trying to divide him.
Wait, so his name is Jack Johnson? I'm pretty sure, right? I think we looked it up. Brick and Jack? That's amazing.
Memes, thoughts on this game? This game I thought was going to be good, but I checked the weather. It's going to rain, so it's going to be bad.
Okay. Who does the rain favor, Memes? The rain favors the Bills.
Jets can't play in the rain. The Bills defense has been playing bad.
Jets offense is is electric so it would have been over city but now it's gonna rain so now it's under over so then yeah nine points last week it was windy it was windy and also that first drive and the first drive was sick yeah yeah first drive was so sick but joe brady smart, so they're probably just going to run for 300 yards.
Yeah, I feel like that's exactly what's going to happen.
It's not even going to be James Cook.
It's going to be Ty Johnson or whoever and just run it down their throat.
We might even see some Mitch.
Yeah, Memes, do you think that when this game kicks off,
are you going to be rooting for the Jets?
I'm rooting for no injuries.
Okay. Okay.
What do you care? No more injuries. You're rooting for health.
Olu got hurt last week. I just want no more injuries for people for next year.
Can I say something real quick? I agree with you. No more injuries for next year.
But I'm of the mindset that next year is so far away that no injury matters. Like, even Tank Dell, it came out in his rehab.
He might miss all of next year. but in my head I'm like, no, no injury matters.
Like I, like even, I mean, tank Dell, it like, it came out in his, his rehab. He might miss all of next year, but in my head, I'm like, no, no, no, he'll be fine.
Cause I just can't even comprehend next year yet. You know what I mean? A 12 year recovery.
Yeah. Yeah.
Or 12 month recovery. That doesn't, that's not a football number.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
So even now we're kind of seeing like what happened with Adrian Peterson's's knee now that's happening with guys that tear their achilles where it's like oh they can be back in eight months whose dog is barking that's that memes no that is yeah i thought memes he's blake's mad at me i farted on blake by accident on the couch earlier and he he stood up and he barked at me and he left the couch and went and laid down. He won't even look
at me now. I'm sorry.
I didn't
mean to. I was on airplay.
Pro code.
Pro code.
Okay. Memes.
So Memes
official statement on this game is he thought it would be
electric and then it's going to rain so it won't.
Yeah, no, it'll stick.
Okay. Great.
I'm going to go talk to Blake real quick.
Okay. Okay.
Memes, I started watching the aaron rogers documentary how do you like it i don't like it but that's not like i think it's well done it's just i don't i mean i i just when he did i'm still in the packers stuff so it's like i still hate it you know what i mean like it's just him telling his side yeah no i i like like that part. He's an interesting guy.
Yeah, he's an interesting guy. I just don't care for Aaron Rodgers highlights in a Packers uniform.
It's not my cup of tea. Yeah, yeah.
Okay. Raiders at Saints.
Saints plus one over under 38. The only note I have in this game is I feel like there's a chance the Saints might win because, and there's no insider information.
I don't have any insider information on the Saints. I feel like Darren Rizzi probably cried in front of the boys after the shutout.
I think he got embarrassed. Yeah.
Yeah. I think he cried.
I would have liked to see him take it out a little bit on LeFleur after Monday night, like give you know, one of the drive by handshakes or like yell something at him. I seem very undare and Rizzy like that.
He didn't say anything during that. Like you're an interim coach, dude.
What do you have to lose? Like just, just fucking lay into him. You got embarrassed on Monday night.
The fact that he didn't do that, he bottled that shit up. So he either took it out on the team or his family.
And I, he looking for a little retribution but i just think that i don't know there's something about the raiders where they are like anti-tanking they yeah i feel like they are trying to win as hard as they can every single game they're preparing like it's their super bowl every week even though ultimately they would they would much rather lose yeah no they they they said they – like Antonio Pierce was like – I mean, he's coaching for his job. Well, his job is to coach.
But he was like, yeah, I don't care about the number one pick. They did so much damage to their future by winning last week.
And if they win this game, it's going to be even more damage. But, yeah, there's something in my head that I'm just like, I can close my eyes and see it.
Like Darren Rizzi got in front of the team probably Wednesday morning, and he cried, and he just cried. And the guys are like, man, I can't believe we made Coach cry.
And there were manly tears, just so we're clear. They weren't like whimpering tears.
They were manly tears. Like, I love football so much, and what happened on Monday night, like, you know, hurt me to my core.
So I just – I think they're – I guess it wouldn't have been Wednesday. It would have been Thursday because Wednesday was Christmas.
They – I think the Saints might come out hot because of the cry. Yeah.
Also, the seven fishes probably did something to them. It's true.
Yeah. Maybe Antonio Pierce is just fucking Tom Brady over one last time.
Maybe that's why he's winning these games. That's true.
Okay. Colts at Giants.
Giants plus seven and a half over under his 40. Colts are still alive.
They need the Broncos to lose out as well. Everyone's hoping the Broncos lose out.
We are on Tebow. Tebow watch for Anthony Richardson, which we mentioned on Sunday.
He's at 47.7% completion percentage. Tebow finished an entire season at 46.5.
This is a game that's just going to stink. This is going to be one of those, I don't even know the weather.
Maybe it won't, maybe it will be rainy, but it just feels like you always mention at PFT, sun shining bright at MetLife Stadium, and this game is going to suck. Yeah, the sun shining bright as fuck and the temperature being like 25 degrees.
One of those late December games that's just very, very depressing to watch. I'm pulling up the weather right now.
Oh, no, it's going to be rainy. It's going to be rainy and like in the 50s and 40s there.
So that's that is going to suck. That's this is going to be a bad game.
This is going to be this is going to be a really bad game. They should not televise this game.
Yeah, just give us the updates. And if Anthony Richardson throws or runs like a 50 yard run or a 50 yard bomb, then like give us a live look at that Scott Hanson.
But yeah, yeah, it's going to be stinky. They do have a lot to play for, but did I hear that Anthony Richardson might not play? Joe Flacco was getting some reps.
Okay. Well, that's what I'm rooting for.
Yeah. I mean, Joe Flacco coming in would be awesome.
Maybe they know that Anthony Richardson's on Tebow watch, so they're like, let's not leave this up to chance. Let's just get old Joe Flacco in there.
That would be nice. Yeah.
That's why they drafted him. Because he can play in the rain.
Yeah. And you basically were like, all right, Anthony Richardson, you cleared it.
You went seven for 11 last week. We don't have to do the Tebow thing.
Let's just get Joe Flacco in and we'll finish off the season.
Yeah.
This is...
I know that Week 17 and 18
are always kind of tough, but there are
just so many bad teams this year.
It's just... I know the Colts
are technically still alive, so I'm not even putting
them in the bad team, even though they kind of
are a bad team.
The Raiders and Saints,
the Giants and Colts,
the Titans and Jaguars, some of these games Thank you. them in the bad team even though they kind of are a bad team but like the Raiders and Saints the
Giants and Colts like the the Titans and Jaguars some of these games man and we're gonna watch them all and they're gonna help they're gonna outrate LeBron in his little league his little basketball league no their ratings are up 84 percent in the NBA big cat you see that up 84 84 percent year over year and they got smoked by like five times by the NFL.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cowboy. Up 84% year over year, and they got smoked by like five times by the NFL.
Yeah. It's our bet.
Okay. Cowboys and Eagles.
Eagles minus seven over under 38 and a half. Max will be there.
Max, I saw the saddest tweet of all time earlier today, I believe, although I think it's been updated. This is what it was said.
With Jalen Hurts and Kenny Pickett banged up, former Eagles QB Ian Book paid the team a visit today. That is gun-in-the-mouth stuff.
Yeah, got to get healthy. There's nothing else really to say.
Quarterback room is not looking great. Tanner McKee.
Tanner McKee is underrated ball player, though. I wouldn't hate to see Tanner McKee get a shot out there.
Yeah, I think I'm afraid of Tanner McKee
just based on the fact that all the time is the guy.
I'm always terrified of like a third string quarterback
that the hometown absolutely loves.
And Tanner McKee seems like that guy.
Also, Pug loves Tanner McKee
and he's been hiding himself from this Zoom this entire time. And I said Tanner McKee.
He went off of hiding himself, gave me a fierce nod, and then went right back to hiding himself. All right, Pug, can you give us a kind of report on Tanner McKee? He's been the Eagles' third string.
He lights it up every preseason, and he's just the best-kept seeker in the NFL. Hey, you got to up he played at stanford he looked like if you pull him up it he just looks like a guy who should be doing your taxes it is not a foot he looks like the nicest like he is the number one like guy who you want to date your daughter because he's he's just gonna like you.
He's got 100 Q-Zips. Yeah, right.
He's a baller, though. Tanner McKee will always put a coaster down before putting a drink on a wooden table.
Always. I'm a fan of Tanner McKee.
Tanner. Why? Just from preseason? Yeah.
No, he throws a nice spiral. Okay.
Throws a nice spiral. He beat cancer.
Stud. That's huge.
Max, where do you stand on the latest Nick Sirianni on the field incident where he had to be separated from Zach Ertz by Big Dom? Good question. Passionate guy.
Passionate guy, fiery guy, fights for his team. You like it? You like that stuff? Yeah.
I feel bad for Big Dom at this point because it's like Nick Sirianni is like Kevin Ertz. He's got his money to work.
He's drawn off at people, and then he has to have the Rock come in and pick him up and escort him away. Since I mentioned a bad Florio tweet, I'll give him credit for a good one.
He said Nick Sirianni gives him the vibes of an Eagles fan that won a contest to coach the team, and that is exactly right. Him getting in a fight with Zach Ertz and Big Dom having to break it up.
What are we talking about? At some point, Big Dom has to be like, Jesus Christ, I got to go manage this guy's emotions again. Big Dom has the hardest job in the world.
He literally just is living the meme where it's like big guy goes out to bar and the little friend always gets into shit that the big guy has to get him out of. Yeah.
I don't know what you want me to say, but I will say if we're talking about... We're defending Big Dom.
Nick Sirianni is the problem. Shouldn't you be giving...
Isn't Zachary an Eagles legend? Is there no respect for Zachary? Hey, why don't you worry about your basketball team over there? All right, buddy? I'm just asking questions. I think what Hank is trying to say is that we love Big Dom so much that at one point does it become a distraction for Big Dom where now his full-time job is just have a leash on Nick Sirianni.
Yeah. He also had to walk C.J.
Gardner-Johnson to the locker room the other day, so that was important. He looked awesome.
He looked awesome. He did.
He want to. The Eagles should be very thankful for Big Dom.
Big Dom, say what you want about it.
He earns his paycheck.
Imagine what the Eagles would be like without him.
Also, he's kind of Big Dom's relationship with Nick Sirianni.
He's kind of proving that the old saying,
there are no bad dogs, only bad dog owners, is wrong.
Because Nick Sirianni is a bad dog.
Big Dom's not doing anything bad as his dog owner he doesn't know what we want to say we love big dom like i just don't know why nick sir he's getting in a fight with zach hurts what are we talking about good to know it's how you treat your your champions your former champions come into philly and get trying to beat up by their coach. He tried to beat him up, Max? Yeah, he tried to kick his ass.
He didn't try to beat him up. Sometimes, you know, Italians, just their words get misconstrued by the other guy when he's just trying to have a conversation.
Well, that's not what I heard. I didn't hear that it was misconstrued.
Also, put some respect on Julie Ertz's husband's name.
That's a goddamn national hero.
What I heard was that Nick Sirianni initiated a Zoom call with Zach Ertz where he apologized to him via Zoom.
Oh.
If you have to Zoom call someone to apologize, you did something fucked up.
Yeah.
Damn.
Not even FaceTime.
He sent him an email invite for the apology. Sometimes family members fight.
It's Christmas. It's Christmas.
I apologize. All right.
I feel like the Cowboys are live in this game, even though CeeDee Lamb is out for the rest of the year. So that's their one awesome player on offense uh but cooper rush might be their second awesome player on offense cooper rush might be awesome uh dowdle is close to a thousand yards i think which is pretty cool for him i guess uh yeah and then there are other wide receivers who's the guy that they that they got that they traded for with the panthers when they were going all in this trade deadline uh mingo yeah.
Yeah, so now they got Mingo and Flournoy. Dave Flournoy is playing receiver for them.
That's going to be sick. Are you – no, Max, you have nothing to play for, right? Like there's nothing – just get healthy.
I mean, I guess Saquon Yards is what you're playing for, but you're going to this game.
You always want to beat the Cowboys, but there's nothing to play for, right?
Technically, we're still playing for the NFC East,
but we would just have to win one out of the next two games.
Wait, what?
You could not win the NFC East?
They're going to win the NFC East. But they could not? If they lose the Cowboys and the Giants.
If the Giants won next week, it would ruin their franchise. Shefty actually had that as a little win horse moment on NFL Countdown.
He's like, watch out for the Eagles week 18. They're going to try to throw that game so the Giants don't get the one pick and the Giants stay in the cellar.
See, I don't know that Sirianni is capable of pulling off that type of mastermind. I think Sirianni is more likely to just give Saquon the ball 40 times.
Yeah. And have him try to get the record against the Giants.
Yeah.
Did you also see Shefty got community noted yesterday?
Oh, no.
For what?
He reported Jalen Hurts did not practice today when none of the Eagles
practiced yesterday on Christmas.
Oh, but wait.
So he was right, though.
Correct.
But he still got community noted.
Jalen Hurts, he did not practice on Wednesday.
I didn't practice either.
Could have added me in there.
Yep, neither did I.
Wow, so you think you just owned Shefty and really, like,
community notes just proved it was wrong.
I don't know what you own.
I didn't own anything.
I just told you what happened.
Sounds like you were the one who did the community notes.
Yeah.
You filled out the community notes.
What I heard is that Jalen Hurts was absent from the team facility
on the day when Ian Book paid them a visit,
which is actually a good move by Jalen Hurts.
I saw a report that Ian Book was seen in the parking lot
dapping up A.J. Brown.
Yeah, they're great friends. Good.
I love everyone in the locker room to be friends. They are great friends.
I would like everyone in my locker room to be dapping each other up. No, Max, as an Eagles fan, you still got to hope that you destroy the Cowboys.
Yeah. You got to beat them.
Yeah, of course. Always.
Embarrassing. Especially with you in person.
Okay, next up, Panthers at Bucs.
Bucs minus eight, over under 48 and a half.
Did you guys see that Xavier Leggett brought leftover raccoon to the locker room from Christmas Day?
That rocked.
Nice guy.
What a good dude.
I love Xavier Leggett.
I wish he had caught that pass against Max,
but besides that, awesome dude.
Yeah.
I also think the Panthers are live in this game.
I think they're just full on.
The Panthers and the Cowboys are the two teams that stink
but are playing actually good ball in the last month
and feels like they're just ready to play spoiler.
Yeah, if there's a team that starts out the season and they suck, their play chances are over in like october but then they get hot at the end of the year that's actually a team that will they'll have a ton to play for even though they don't have any playoff hopes or aspirations like they've turned something around so they're trying there's going to be a lot of guys that uh will probably be back next year for the panthers and so they are actually like they're looking at this as the preseason for next year. So I like the Panthers in the points.
I don't know if I like them money-lined against the Bucs, but I feel like that's a lot of points for this team. A lot of points.
They're factoring in weeks one through eight in this spread, I think, a little bit. Yeah, and Bucs, figure it out.
I want to see the Bucs in the playoffs. No offense to the Falcons.
I would like to see the Bucs in the playoffs. That's a personal choice of mine.
I want to see Baker in the playoffs. I'll see Bucky in the playoffs.
Yeah. Okay.
Titans and Jaguars. Jaguars minus one over under 39 and a half.
Do you guys have any New Year's resolutions? I do. I've got a couple of New Year's resolutions.
Okay. Lay them on me.
I'm going to drink more water
again this year. I'm going
to get a six-pack
by the summer. Six-pack
summer. And I'm
going to get a couple new
planes and
hit the flight simulator back up
now that I've got the virtual reality 360.
Hell yes. That's pretty much it.
Yeah. I've got the virtual reality 360.
Hell yes.
Hell yes.
Yeah.
I have two.
Oh, let me hear them.
Get a physical.
Okay.
Go to the dentist.
Okay.
That's good.
That's huge.
You can do that in the same week.
Yeah.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
You can do that in 12 months.
Wait, having a New Year's resolution be go to the dentist, that's something that you should do every year. That wasn't the question.
It's literally every 12 months. It's every six months.
My actual resolution is to get my drive about 15 yards longer so that Hank will owe me more money. I love that.
I love that. tune into the the last episode of the doc it's out uh go watch it um all right my uh my new year's resolution is there's a there's a dive bar or like maybe i don't know like three blocks from my house that i i want to try to become a regular at now i don't really have time to go to the bar, but I'm thinking if I can get there like
six or seven times next year
and just kind of really show face,
it's my goal.
That's my goal. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
Maybe I'll bring you guys once.
Maybe become like a morning drinker.
Ooh, just a couple pops
before work.
It's not too far from my son's school.
Yeah, there you go. Then you'll stand out like all the bartenders will know your name like oh that's there comes dan yeah he just dropped his son off at 7 45 in the morning daddy needs to stop by the office real quick and do some paperwork before uh before he drops you off um that it's a great move being a regular is so fun i walk by by it all the time.
I'm like, damn, I really want to go there. So that's my goal.
Now, I crushed my goal last year. I looked at my Uber Eats app, and I ordered Blizzards 27 times last year.
So pretty good. Pretty good.
That's a lot. I said I was going to eat more Blizzards.
I ate a whole shitload more blizzards. I think I had two the year before.
I like that. Yeah.
Anyone else got New Year's resolutions for the Titans-Jaguars preview? Yep, I got two. I would like to lose a lot of weight, also learn how to make bread.
So those two things aren't going to go super hand in hand, but I'm pretty confident that I'm going to be able to do at least one of those. And I think it's going to be the bread.
You've been talking for a while. Well, no, well, I brought it up to chef Donnie a couple months ago and now he, he got super excited and he's like trying to get it sold and we're trying to do a series out of it.
But me and Donnie will be the bread boys in 2025, and I'm going to learn how to make bread, but I'm also going to lose weight. Learn weight.
Yeah, lose weight. I'm going to learn weight and lose bread.
Okay. You didn't say that you were going to eat more bread.
You were going to make it for other people. True.
But part of like trial and error is like you got to taste it at least some of the bread yeah but i mean this is like just the next step for max's deli at work you got to i know it's all part of it bread max what about what about when people say don't trust a skinny chef how can i get bread bread from a skinny max? No. See, here's the thing.
I think that I could still lose 30 pounds but also be fat. So that's where I would like to get to.
I want to get to a point where I lose weight but am still fat. Yeah.
I think I've lost like 15 pounds, and if I typed it into the obesity thing, I'm still obese. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
By the way, I forgot. I'm also going to read a book.
I haven't read a book in a decade. I'm going to read a book.
Oh, does this count? No, read with my two eyes. It might take me the entire year.
I'm going to fucking do it. I feel it.
This is the year I'm going to read a book. It can't be a movie.
You should read The Art of War. Can I read? All right.
If it can't be a movie, can I read a Michael Lewis book knowing that eventually it will be a movie? Yes. Okay.
All right. Cool.
You just want to tell people you read that the book was bad. Yeah, that's why I've read every Michael Lewis book, because they always become movies.
And I can be like, oh, yeah, I have Moneyball.
Read that.
Big short.
Know it.
All right.
Memes.
Any New Year's resolutions?
I'm going to go to a doctor.
I don't know which one, but I'm going to go to a doctor,
and I'm going to get at least two more TVs.
Okay.
I like that. Fuck yes.
Fuck yes. The boys are up.
The boys are up. All right, Shane, anything? I think I want to try an apple.
Try an apple. Try some fruit.
I think I want to go to Italy this year, so hit up Duolingo. Get a nice Duolingo street going.
Oh, you're going to bring back a bride, aren't you? Shane's going to have a kid. Yeah, he is.
Yeah, you are. You're going to have a kid.
Yes, I love it. I love it.
Shane's going to be walking in and being like, hey, I need – can you talk to HR? I have an Italian wife and child now I have to put on health insurance. Like, what, dude? You went there for three days.
We got to get you one of those – you know how the NFL coaches wear the shirts and the hats with the flags on them? We got to get you a Chargers Italy sweatshirt. Yes, yes, Yes.
And a little one, a toddler one for your kid. All right.
Pug, last one. Say play more NFL blitz.
Fuck. Okay.
Once a day. Because I play like sometimes every other day, but I got to stay committed if i want to be good and cook for
myself more oh okay look this is we might have the best year of this podcast with all these new year's resolutions yeah we're gonna be sitting pretty yeah we're gonna fucking be be i mean we're gonna get max skinny bread making shane and his italian kid memes all he has to do is go to Target once.
He's got his... Max, skinny, bread making.
Shane and his Italian kid. Memes, all he has to do is go to Target once.
Get your blood pressure checked in a Target. That's kind of a doctor.
Go to Walmart. Get your blood pressure tested.
Get your two TVs. Boom, you're done.
You're done on January 1st. There really should be like a doctor's office for guys where in the same doctor's office they have the doctor they've got your dentist they've got like a secondary doctor that does like blood work and all that and maybe like a place for lunch one of my ideas that i pitched to cuban is we got to figure out a way to get uh a dentist on a plane so it's like you know you have you you know you're stuck you know, you're stuck on a plane, you know, travel sucks.
Just have a dentist do your teeth. Then it's a little bit turbulence.
I haven't been able to figure that part out, but everything else makes sense. Like why aren't we doing more of the shitty things we have to do in life on planes? Like imagine getting on a flight and being like, yeah, this is actually the accountant's flight.
They're just going to do everyone's taxes coast to coast yeah it's not a bad idea they've already got the the oxygen mask things that come down just put nitrous in there knock it out on the plan right any any shitty thing you have to do like imagine if you have to like oh yeah you got to get divorced okay get on this flight to hawaii by the time you land we'll have you divorced and then you're in hawaii single there should be an airline that has like professors that are the the stewards and the stewardesses and they just teach you like a college class if you fly in there like six times yeah then you get yeah you can get a diploma pass the bar yeah pass the bar that's Or teach you Italian if you take four plane flights. Teach you how to fucking Italian.
Yeah. Figure out a way.
Traveling sucks. Planes suck.
Figure out a way to double it up. Alright, that was our Titans-Jaguars preview.
Dolphins at Browns. Browns plus six and a half over under 39 and a half.
I don't find I mean this is DTR. I'm going to bet against DTR if he plays if he starts.
I know he's got like maybe a calf injury, but I'm I'm I'm a I have faded DTR I think in every single one of his starts in the NFL and I'm going to continue to do so. Yeah, I read I read one update from him where I think his was like, I've got a sore little calf.
That didn't really give me a lot of inspiration. So we're probably not going to get Jameis, even if we don't get DTR, right? Because his shoulder is still banged up.
But I saw Jameis eating chicken wings online this week. And the man just – he just needs to be in front of a camera at all times.
That's my only note here. This is going to be a poopy game.
Dolphins, I guess, still entertaining at times, but yeah. Ish.
Ish. I don't even know.
They don't even do the crazy explosives anymore. So yeah, it's going to be a bad game.
All right, here's a good game. Packers and Vikings.
Vikings plus one over under 48 and a half. This game's going to rock.
They flex this game to the afternoon. The Green Bay Packers, this is a hurtful stat for myself and anyone who hates the Packers, they have now made the playoffs 13 of the last 16 years, which is the most in the NFL in that time frame.
They also, obviously were the first team to uh pitch a shutout against the saints on monday night football um yeah i mean the vikings are going for the one seed the have you seen pft the discourse this is like uh nfc north fans are now doing the like hey we got to change the rules because it's not fair that the packers are gonna to have to go on the road it's like come on guys like the whole point is divisions should matter that that's the fun of it like if we get rid of divisions and it's just the four best records divisions won't fucking matter anymore yeah and we do have divisions for a reason because it's good for the game to have rivals that you play every single year you're in and you're out it's not like playing an unbalanced schedule or anything right and yeah It will suck for the game to have rivals that you play every single year. You're in and you're out.
It's not like they're playing an unbalanced schedule or anything. Right.
And, yeah, it will suck for the Vikings if they end up being like a great, great wild card team and get that first wild card spot. That's going to suck to have to go on the road.
But, I mean, that's such is life. Deal with it.
Yeah, for both of them, it would suck. I mean, for the Packers and the Vikings, theyers and the Vikings, no matter what, they're going to both have more wins than the team they play in the first round because they will be slotted into the Obviously, the Lions can also get one of those spots, but two out of the three NFC North teams will be the fifth or the sixth seed, and they're going to have to play against a team that did not win as many games as them, but that's just how it works, and I kind of like how it works because divisions matter.
Yeah, two good quarterbacks, very good quarterbacks in this game. I saw a stat that they're both – I think they're two of the top three quarterbacks against man-to-man so far this year, and they are two of the five worst, I believe, against zone this year.
so um the v Vikings, I know they do a lot of zone blitzing and shit like that. I don't know if they'll be able to get in Jordan, but I feel like Jordan Love does better when he's off his back foot anyway.
So I'm truly, I'm just like excited to watch this game. It's going to be, this is going to be a playoff game.
Yeah, this is going to be a great, great game. And like you said, the Vikings, they're still going for that one seed.
They play the Lions week 18. And the Packers, I guess you're rooting for the Vikings, PFT, because you can still jump the Packers, right? Yeah, it's still possible that we could jump the Packers, but then you start getting into – there's a lot of other stuff that has to shake out too.
So could jump the packers and get that get that succeed i believe um but then you'd be looking at maybe playing uh at the rams in the first round which is not really there's no good place to play in the first round i guess if i if i had to draw it up i would want to go to philadelphia and beat the fuck out of max so that's what what I'm hoping for. And Max said he'd do it with Kenny.
He'll fucking beat you with Kenny. He said he actually doesn't want Jalen Hurst to start.
He wants to beat you with Kenny. Listen, I would love to fucking start that game.
Tanner McKee. What you know about Tanner McKee, bitch? All right.
Last game. Falcons and commanders.
PFT. Commanders minus four over under 47 and a half.
Oh, man. The Bears fourth and one, and they just.
They're so fucking bad. I'm sorry, America.
PFT. Thoughts on this game? They didn't get it.
You're ahead of me. No, they got a false start.
Oh my god. I am bummed out.
I'm bummed out that we're not going to get Kirk Cousins. Yeah.
I had mentally prepared myself to face Kirk Cousins at home. I don't know what we're going to get with Penix.
I don't think anybody really knows. We had a little bit of a clue last week, but not really.
So it's kind of like the unknown that we're going into. I think I like the commanders.
Their offense played pretty well last week against a really, really good Eagles defense, kind of embarrassing in the fourth quarter. But I'm always afraid to see the commanders in primetime.
And I always will be. Those scars run very, very deep where it's just like I'm always thinking in the
back of my head this is about to be the most embarrassing thing ever uh but I don't know I I don't know that I truly believe in Michael Pennant how can you after one week so there's a chance that he goes out there and just lights us up because our defense not that great we've been playing a little bit better with Lattimore I actually went back and watched the tape grinded some all 22 on Lattimore.
He didn't play that bad.
He had some good plays.
He played much, much better than... You did the All-22 on Lattimore? I did the All-22 on Lattimore.
He didn't play that bad. He was getting worked.
He had a couple PBUs. Again...
Your All-22 is, I feel like, broken. He was getting destroyed.
If you watch ball, you're exposing yourselves as non-ball knowers right now because pass interference penalties, not always a bad thing for cornerbacks. It means that they were in position to make a play.
Oh, my God. Bears picked it up.
Bears might win this game. Sorry.
We already talked about this.
PFT, continue on.
You're also ahead of me.
Marshawn Lattimore.
Also, no one is listening to you because you sound like an idiot, but continue.
Oh, here we go.
Max, you don't know ball, Max.
You don't talk to somebody that watches ball for a living.
They'll tell you that pass interference penalty is not always that bad.
Keep coping. Yeah, but that one drive when he basically gave they'll tell you that pass interference penalty is not always that bad.
Keep coping.
Yeah, but that one drive when he basically gave up 107 yards of pass interference, that was bad.
I agree with you, PFT, by the way.
I talked about that on Monday, and I said how bad that was.
And then Max said, well, first of all, you've got to say that Jane Daniels threw two interceptions in addition to his five touchdowns.
First, you have to say that.
I agree with you, PFT. It's kind of like the quarterbacks, not all interceptions in addition to his five touchdowns first you have to say that well i i agree with you pft it's kind of like the you know you like quarterbacks not all interceptions are bad like pass interference sometimes is not a bad play yeah i mean it gets penalized but and don't get me wrong like it's not good that he got called for pass interference but it also means you can't get called for pass interference if you're five yards away from a guy like emmanuel forbes used to be and there's times when you actually getting called for a pass interference is good because you would have given up a touchdown easily.
That is not good. If you were going to give up a touchdown, that is bad.
That is bad, but that's good to then get a pass interference instead of a touchdown. Right now we have a Bears fan arguing that interceptions are good for quarterback and a Washington fan arguing that pass interferences are good for corners.
That's just what's going on. Kittle Williams doesn't throw interceptions, so I actually wouldn't mind if he threw a couple more.
So I stand by what I said. Yeah, I seriously do.
I stand by it. And I stand by what I said too, Max.
I think i think it okay it sounds stupid and it probably is stupid
to a strike but if you talk to ball knowers real ones out there they'll be like yeah that's a bad stat to to ding a cornerback for also now it's probably a good time to mention that marshall latimore might not even play this week oh no what happened yeah uh he's yellow he's dealing with everyone's dealing with something this time of year his hamstring player it out he was great Okay.
Okay.
All right.
So you're worried about this game?
Yeah, I'm worried because I think there might be like a post cousins bump. It's the fear of the unknown.
It's the fear of the unknown. And I feel like the, the Falcon skill players, when they're not like deflecting passes that get intercepted and returned for six points, they're probably pretty excited to have somebody that can throw the ball and hit somebody outside the numbers.
It's also, you guys went through, like, that game was, I mean, it was an incredible game against the Eagles, incredible win, gutsy team. Yes, but Jaden did throw two interceptions, Big Cat.
That's true, but, like, off of that divisional game that you didn't expect to win, there might be a little bit of a letdown. I don't know.
I like the commanders of this game. I'm just for fodder.
That would be why I would – if you want to get scared, there's things you could get scared about. I don't think Dan Quinn is going to let him get scared like that.
I don't think he's going to have him ready to play. But I'm not like supreme.
We're not a great team right now.
We're capable of doing great things, and when everything works for us,
we are a great team, but it's nothing that you can count on.
I can't bank on beating the Falcons, especially in primetime.
Yeah.
Okay.
Picks.
What are those standings memes?
I think we crushed the Week 17 preview.
When you've got to talk about every game, it's tough this time of year, but we did it. Hank, 17 and a half points.
Me and Big Cat, 16. PFT and Max, 14.
Hank just needs one win, and he clinches. He doesn't have to do the punishment.
Maximum amount of points for PFT and Max is 18. Are we not doing playoffs? Are we doing playoffs? We didn't last year.
Yeah, that's true. We didn't last year.
Nobody was tied. I think it's normally a regular season thing, right? It is all regular season.
I just wanted to say that because it would piss Hank off because he'd be like, I fucking had to do an hour stand up. This is bullshit.
You guys are trying to find
a way for me to lose.
This one doesn't even matter. It's like I
picked the bad
ones to win.
You run away from winning.
So basically, it's
a two-way race and
maybe a four-way race.
It looks like it's going to be me and Max.
Yeah, with Max.
Okay. Who's up
Thank you. a two-way race and maybe a four-way race.
It looks like it's going to be me and Max. Yeah, with Max.
Okay, who's up first? PFT's up first. Okay, PFT.
I love that. I'm going to go with the Eagles, minus seven.
I think they're going to spank the Cowboys. Ooh, spanking? Max and house? Spank.
All right, I'll take the Panthers plus eight.
I will take the New York Jets plus nine and a half.
Packers, Vikings over 48.
I like that.
I am going to take the Giantsants Colts under 40 and a half. That's okay.
You do that every time. Max was in the cave last Sunday being like, you guys fucking made sounds after my pick and I won.
And we're like, dude, we make those sounds after every pick you've ever made he's like fuck i didn't realize that last week it's a bad pick even if it wins you should know that it's a bad pick you could be like yeah you could be like the bill you'd be like josh allen to get one yard passing and we'd be like oh gross dude also max We all suck. All right.
What's your second pick? But I suck the most.
My second pick will be the Rams minus six and a half against the Cardinals. After we just told Jonathan Gannon to do some fuck shit.
Dude, the Cardinals beat him 41 to 10. Yeah.
He wants immunity for life. Okay, who's up next? Memes? I'm going to take the Lions minus 3.5.
I like that pick. I think Dan Campbell basically was like, yeah, we're not sitting anyone.
We're out for revenge. Yeah, it's going to be like that Cowboys game earlier in the year i'm yeah yeah i'm gonna take uh one of the most slept on backup qbs to just go the fuck off give me the uh eagles cowboys over 38 and a half tanner mckee tanner mckee tanner mckee going nuts um okay I am going to take I have to do an over under
And they all suck. Did anyone take the under in the Jets bills? I will take the under in Jets bills, 46 and a half.
Thinking maybe we get Mitch in the second half, run out the clock. That'd be bad.
Mitch to Mac. Yeah.
Okay. PFT.
Okay. I'm going to take the over in Colts Giants.
Oh. Head to head.
Head to head. I like that pick.
I like that pick a lot. This is Flacco.
He loves the rain. He's a mutter.
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Sponsored by DraftKings. Okay, so it's up to me, Max, a PFT.
We're going to do afternoons or nights. I will.
Let's just start with an easy one. Josh Jacobs.
Okay. I've got Diami Brown.
Okay. What's three 70.
Whoa. But I like them.
They look for him in the red zone a lot. That was decisive.
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Don't tell anybody. Keep your mouth shut.
Don't sing. Don't say a word.
My sit-em is Red 1. Worst fucking Christmas movie I've ever seen.
I don't know how they made so much money. Also, Caleb Williams sit-em.
He just threw a fucking interception. This team is fucking horrible, dude.
I said I like my guys throwing more interceptions. Yeah, I knew that was going to happen when you said that.
Stay with me. I knew it too.
They're a joke. They're really bad.
My sleeper is mouth tape. If you want to fall asleep, throw some fucking tape on your mouth.
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We taped up my friend Billy Bats' mouth one time. Worked real good.
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Full names. Remember them all.
I'm starting seven fishes this week. What's your guys' favorite kind of fish? Mine's shrimp.
Mine's when anyone's swimming with them. Calamari.
Yeah, you love the calamari. You love it for appetizing and everything.
My sit- boston celtics boston celtics fucking suck bro they fucking suck what's going on in boston right now this team can't win a fucking game bad bad basketball coach trying to fight guys at half core what the fuck is going on with these clowns fuck you whoa uh my sleeper is cheap flights to hawaii from chicago because you can get them for zero dollars if you just climb up into the landing gear.
And then you just kind of hold on and you hope that you get there safe and sound.
But you usually die.
So RIP to that guy.
Love that.
RIP to that guy.
Real great guy.
My guy left Chicago and he was like, I want to go to Maui.
What's the best way to get to Maui?
Oh, I'll just climb up into the landing gear compartment. And then the landing gear crushed him to death.
And also it was like negative 70 degrees on the flight. I think they did a study, and they said 70% of people that have tried that move have died.
But the 30%, you get a great deal. Great deal.
Great deal. All right, what's up's up guys it's frankie pastrami my stardom this week is teddy bridgewater because he's back and he might win a ring because he's with the detroit lions now teddy bridgewater stand-up guy daddy big stick stand-up guy stand-up guy my sit-um is this week in the calendar because it's no man's week i don't know where the fuck i am i don't know what's going on there's football games all hours i love that part but holy shit you start a diet do you not start a diet do you read a book do you go to the dentist you don't do shit it's just no man's land all week long i don't know about you guys but on sunday uh well i thought christmas was sunday because there was football on tv and so so I've been referring to Thursday as being Monday and Friday as being Tuesday.
Yeah.
All fucked up.
It kind of reminds me of when we change our clocks in two weeks.
My sleeper is Xavier Leguette because he brought that raccoon with him to the locker room.
That was that shit.
It actually looked kind of good.
It looked like pulled pork.
Yeah.
That guy's a gamer. Gamer.
Teddy Bridge teddy bridgewater by the way being back is awesome it is very cool i love that so he just won a state championship coaching his high school team right and then he's like you know what i'll just come back yeah it's crazy um okay uh let's it's a hire that they're making just because he's a good guy that people like to be around. Yeah, I like that.
That's a culture changer.
Culture change.
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And now... Okay, we now welcome on a very very good friend of ours recurring guest
it is Dwayne the Rock Johnson it's Paul Bissonette uh the man who has been I don't know I
I don't really know where to start you're you're my hero I've told you that over and over that
you're my hero uh you've lived basically every guy's fantasy, non-sexual fantasy in terms of like, man, if I could be so tough that I could take on seven dudes. Let's start with this.
How are you doing overall? And maybe like a little background for the people that don't know what we're talking about. I'm doing fine.
I got cocky, obviously.
I was just kind of on the IR for a couple weeks there,
but I've been getting some good Thai massages recently,
and it's been working out the kinks in my neck,
so I'm not as fucked up as I was.
But for those of you who have no clue what's going on,
I went to eat at a family restaurant called Houston's
that I normally go to.
I go there like three, four, five times a week sometimes when I'm back. And just these drunk Irish travelers, I don't know people who are listening know what Irish travelers are, basically like modern day gypsies.
But they were in there causing a ruckus. They got in the manager's face.
They assaulted them. They harassed them.
And then finally I'd seen enough. I go over and I said, hey, I said, if you guys keep doing that, I'm going to bring in the parking lot.
We're going to have issues. And then they just started swinging.
So that fight went from inside the restaurant all the way over to the CVS. It was a three minute round.
And I was gassed by the end of it. Took a couple boot fucks to the head.
But all in all, doing good. Doing pretty good, boys.
Took some, gave some more.
It was my favorite line.
Yeah, you fought seven dudes in a parking lot
and you held your own.
Again, you're my hero.
You're my hero.
I mean, I want you singing the national anthem
at a rough and rowdy
in which I'm beating the fucking wheels off
this Danny Bradley puke.
The kid who was caught on video an hour and a half
before that altercation sucker punching a guy at Ravens golf club and then moseyed on over to Houston's to do the exact same thing to that manager but before he was able to cock his right back and swing I went over there and uh and then the rest the rest of it ensued and on top of all of what has gone on.
Now Glassbanger ends up in prison.
Yes.
Yeah.
All your foes are going down. You're just having an insane run right now.
So what's going on right now with the legal proceedings with these guys? I saw one clip of one of the dudes who said, yeah, I'll try to make it back. And the judge is like, well, you have to do better than try.
Have we got an update on that guy? He never made it back. Oh, shocker shock he hired a lawyer named larry kazan a local scottsdale guy whose kid uh ben kazan ended up dming the shea stevens guy who's been doing all the undercover work on behalf of spitting chicklets barstool and then our side of it it was just some random chicklets fan who's also a private investigator who has been uncovering all this crazy about these irish travelers like how they scam all these guys records in the past the fact that they have affiliation to these people who have caused our or who have been involved in murders for insurance fraud scams uh the list goes on and on and on as to how big of a dirt bag or how big of dirt bags these guys are so uh shout out to shea stevens but that ben kazan kid ended up sending him a dm basically being like eat a bag of dicks fuck you you canadian because the shea stevens kid's canadian so now we got this slimy lawyer in the mix oh and that's why he didn't have to show up because he hired this big wig lawyer and he ended up uh you know taking taking the stand as far as his defense so they know they dropped three of their charges to enhance them to felonies so i'm gonna end up going after these guys civilly we're probably gonna have to wait till all the uh legal proceedings from a criminal side uh and uh you know going out and about but i don't like i don't even want – I want my hospital bills recovered.
I want my physio and all that paid for because my neck's still jacked up and I dealt with concussions. But I won't go after him that hard civilly if that Danny Bradley is willing to fight me.
So that's basically what I'm going to present to their side, saying I won't ruin your lives if you end up paying the piper inside of a ring. Yeah, just be a man about it.
Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I feel like you could take them all out one by one, rough and rowdy, just biz versus the Irish.
Do it one night only. And then just give them three rounds, and everybody steps up.
You out of them you beat the next guy but you're such a nice guy you're willing to say that you just want one of them you just want one of their scalps i so danny bradley was the guy in the lime green golf shirt who you see at ravens golf club who suckers the employee he ends up clipping one of the girl waitresses too he was the instigator in that one he was also the instigator who was getting in and putting his hand inside the manager's face like giving her one of these ones right and backing them up onto the back bar that's when i kept turning around in my seat being like like like did i smoke a bad batch of weed here like am i going fucking crazy like we're at houston's restaurant and these nine drunk golfers are getting in these guys face and the lime green golf shirt guy was the guy who was the antagonist in both situations and they're just all scumbag piece of shit who rip off everyday americans anybody's grandparents who are listening who live in texas they're going around knocking on their door saying they're going to to perform asphalt jobs. They say, hey, do half down.
If you don't like it, we'll give you all your money back. See you later.
Never to be seen again. Go to the next town.
These guys are absolute scumbags. It's a wild, wild story.
So when I heard about, like, obviously I heard it, I was very concerned for, like, because, you know, you hear seven on one. That's scary.
You know, like a guy could get knocked out and then
get hit in the, you know, kicked in the face. They
tried to kick you in the head like that.
You know, like shit, bad shit can happen in
a street fight. And when I thought about
it, I was like, oh, it's probably just some like
random, you know, college bros or something.
But then to find out that they're
legitimate like
like criminals, traveling
criminals that go around
and do this. You're
All right. but then to find out that they're legitimate like uh like criminals traveling criminals that go around and do this you're it's the whole story is insane the way that it unraveled because the next day i was expecting maybe like like officers call and say hey these guys want to reach out to you about what happened where we could all just kind of go our own way and even though they kicked me in the head it's just like well maybe they just had one too many drinks and this was a one-off and a horrible mistake they made and i understand that those types of things happen but when i end up seeing that other video uh when that shea stevens who the undercover detective or whatever the pi or whatever you want to call him he'd been getting messages like crazy from people from their their town in fort worth texas being like these guys show up to bars and restaurants and they'll get so rowdy to where they're going to be they rip flat screen tv tvs off the wall they like go and terrorize small businesses so the exact opposite of basically what barstool stands for and dave portnoy what he does for small businesses these people are terrorizing them and then ripping off everyday civilians in order to buy their G-wagons or Escalades.
These guys are cruising around, living life very lavishly by ripping people off with other people's money. So these guys, they need to pay the piper this time.
We finally got these guys. We got them pinned down and including not only that danny bradley kid but that sean daly kid who i mean he's got a rap sheet as long as fucking a santa list and he ended up having a military id on him a fake one so he could get discounts at hotels and restaurants and then they go do that at these places and then when he got caught after kicking me in the head because keep in mind so at the raven golf club about an hour and a half two hours earlier it had been called in but they didn't catch them so they were off and running around town and apparently they stopped at a ruth's crisp before they ended up getting to houston's so um the cops were aware that these guys were out and about so the minute that houston's called in and and they kind of were like okay it's probably the same guys they were over there in like three minutes because by the time the fight ended some of them had been caught some of guys some of these guys were able to like run away and avoid police but the camera operators there was a camera across the street they were operating it because they heard the call and they're like okay it moved outside and then they followed it along so they
were able to identify what the guys were wearing and then call out to the cops being like this is
what these guys are wearing and then like a few of them were caught a few miles down the road
which included that sean daly kid with the red shirt who boot fucked me in the head three four
times um at one point his his foot when he missed me ended up getting to the probably the
Thank you. included that sean daly kid with the red shirt who boot fucked me in the head three four times um at one point his his foot when he missed me ended up getting to the probably the height of his shoulders so they were if i would have if i would have gotten knocked out out they would have kept boot fucking yeah they would have like like it would have it would have they would have maybe killed you that's that's the craziest part these guys are the absolute scum of the earth pieces of shit and like they the other part about about it is they do this all around and they fight people and they take advantage of people and they are able to do it because they're you know they do it to anonymous regular civilians they just happen to do it to someone who has a huge following that's tremendously like well liked across the internet and now they fucked up because now the world knows about them so i feel like it's my duty at this point like i don't care about like getting kicked in the head or any of that stuff but i just feel like it's my duty now to publicly humiliate these guys yeah if they're willing to pay the piper and and and go through the legal system and and pay their dues not only criminally but somewhat civilly.
As I said, you sign the documentation, we meet in a ring somewhere, I'll make an example out of you, and then we can all move on from this. But if they don't, and they keep, I said to them on the podcast, I've said it in clip, I'm going to smoke them out.
I'm going to use every resource I got. I got, you know, there's some bad people out there.
Irish travelers are not the only bad people out there. Right.
Yeah, that's true. You might know some bad people out there, some bad on.
And their own Irish, the other Irish travelers are probably not very happy that they're doing this. They had a good thing going until they fucked with the wrong guy.
Yeah. That's my understanding is there's an Arizona chapter and a Texas chapter.
I know. It's just wild.
It's just ridiculous. Because we had never heard about the subculture until you got into a fight with seven of them.
And now it's like I'm obsessed with finding out more about these guys. Until they tried to boot fuck you.
Outside the CVS. That's what I'm saying.
So apparently therizona chapter is very angry being like we're doing these small petty crimes under the table and you guys are bringing us all this negative attention like fuck off so i don't know it's uh it's a gong show but it also seems like something that like uh like the government or the feds need to get involved in like from a bigger scale in order to take these guys down like they like it's you know i i think that uh you know immigration and people coming over is great man like uh you know north america is the land of opportunity but to come over here and then do that like come on here what are we talking about this isn't people that we want inside of our country is it no let's get the feds involved let's get the fbi monitoring the uh the irish travelers they boot fucked the wrong guy they did they did they stepped in it that's a fact and i love the fact that you're formally offering uh you know a retribution challenge for yourself like i will i will drop everything if i can just beat the fuck out of one of them you're like jason have you figured out like how do you how do you how do you send that that offer to him do you send that to their attorney or are you just just faxing a document over and be like, you want to go? Paul Bissonette. You want one? Yeah.
Officially, you want one. It reads, tap on the shin pads.
You want one. You want one.
And just a circle, yes or no. Yeah.
But you laugh. That is exactly the way you you do it we slide over the number that we want to cover my hospital ambulance and all the the bills and of course the lawyer fees or whatever it is and it's like this is going to be a lot less painful uh financially if you just meet me in the middle of a ring somewhere yeah i don't want to do it in a boxing ring i want to do it in an mma ring i want the punches to hurt yeah yeah yeah there you go like gloves arm barham yeah because i want to i want to just pin down a couple details because i've done a lot of reading about this and i've been i i'm i'm so happy that you're okay and i think it's it's a uh it's ended up being one of these stories where paul bisnet becomes a legend you're like paul bunyan you can tell me anything about Paul Bissonnette.
It's like, okay, I believe. You guys would have done the same thing, though, if you would have.
No, I wouldn't. I would like to say that I would have.
Hold on, PFT. If I ate it at Houston's four or five nights a week, maybe I would have.
Well, so that was one of the details I wanted to clear up here. So Houston's, this place, it's a family restaurant.
Yes. And how many times a week do you eat there? I would say at the, at the height, probably like, I would say four to five times at the height.
Like I haven't, I've only been there back twice since the ordeal in the last month, just cause like, I just don't, you know, it just doesn't feel as comfortable and cozy as it once did. And maybe a little PTSD.
Yeah. And just like, I don't want to go in there and just i have to talk about it every time right so i've hit up a few other local spots where i just moved into my place not too long ago uh my newer spot so i haven't gotten back into my cooking routine like i was when i was renting my apartment the last few years yeah so you eat there you said four to five times a week yeah yeah yeah like at the height of it yeah okay so you do you get the the thing every time you go i switch it up a little bit okay because i've heard that their salad is outstanding traditional salad yeah how would you know it's a kickstarter it's a family restaurant it is a family restaurant you confirm that yeah but so 39 locations have you ever eaten at a houston's i have not no i have okay it's it's uh it's very military-like like it's it's like they are they are hardcore like the process to get hired there like they don't fuck shit up they are everything's always cooked perfectly the service is incredible they run a tight tight ship so that's why i go there i usually get the rotisserie chicken I I do the filet sometimes.
If I'm feeling like extra wild, maybe the French dip. And yeah, that's usually the extent of it.
Okay. And then in the fight, I saw the video several times.
I'm pretty upset. I know that you're upset about this.
The part where you clock the guy, you're behind the tree. So you don't get to see like the full on clock.
Can you tell me just about that punch and how good it felt and seeing that guy get knocked out? So, yeah. So I kept getting backed up through the parking lot.
And I don't know how many people who are listening. The videos are everywhere if you go search them online.
Like if you go on my Twitter timeline, if you back it up a little bit, Shea Stevens has them the local fox station posted it so uh probably like three quarters like through the distance of the fight because remember this started inside the houston's and it made its way all the way over to cvs inside the same um strip mall because they kept backing me out and and when you're fighting like that you don't want to get clipped to the where you end up getting knocked out where you're asleep. Because like I said, they'll just keep kicking your head in.
So as I kept backing up and then there would be a little bit of engagement, kept backing up, a little bit of engagement. The one, one of the one guys who was the biggest dickhead, William Carroll, he ended up sprinting past the group to try to get me, like to try to catch me off guard.
And I hit him with a right hook and you could see in his mugshot that he's all fucked up on his left temple and the minute i got him right on the temple with my right he just dropped right to his knees ready to fucking suck on my foursy right right like he was getting ready to unzip my zipper that fucking piece of shit um i should have fucking pulled it out and gave him a little bit of a nighting trash fucking irishman um but and then i guess their side was trying to say that he like fell on the golf course and that's why he was all yeah the fact that i did that like give me a hey but if you watch the surveillance from across the street in which catches them as they continue to kick me in the head after that you could see him point at at me and sprint at me in the, into the frame. And then he disappears behind the dumpster and then out the other side, there's four of them sprinting at me.
Cause they're pissed off. I just knocked out their buddy and he doesn't come out the other side.
So pretty hard to deny. And then below the tree line, when the camera follows it, as he runs in where you get blocked, you blocked you could kind of see him drop yeah and then you come see me sprinting out the other side so listen to this before any of the surveillance came out didn't even know if they had surveillance i recounted the whole story on the podcast and i posted something on social media i was 95 percent bang on with all of the details of what happened i thought the guy i knocked out was bald he wasn't bald he had a little bit of hair he was maybe a little bit thin on top uh keep in mind i was kicked in the head three four times so my memory was a little bit blurry but every every detail about the whole ordeal i pretty much got bang on in my statement and even the cops said like they were like wow you were unreal at recounting this before they'd even show me the tape myself and then and then the post-game pressers were incredible i mean you should watch it any weirder yeah the post-game pressers you got guys like they're finding guys in hotels like two miles down where they're pretending they weren't there you got another guy who basically who literally was like direct quote He's like i he looked like dwayne the rock johnson he didn't have a lick you know a lick of body fat on him but i i said it i was like they they basically were talking like braveheart like you're william wallace they're like he's nine feet tall and shoots fireballs out of his ass it was so awesome watching it they were they were so scared what a scene in Braveheart when he's running on the hills and they're like telling the tale of William Wallace that that's goosebumps when you said that yeah that's you in the after report I think the guys wanted to fuck you for the most part they're like he had his body was just covered with awesome tattoos yeah he's Mexican is awesome beat the fuck out of us so there was there was one moment uh where you're backing up through the parking lot and it seems like there are three guys that are walking at you but they're not they're not running at you yet you're just kind of keeping your head on a swivel backpedaling trying to get out of the situation where it seems like you guys are exchanging words at that point yes what do you say are you having a conversation at that point are you like i'll fuck you up and up.
The one guy's, no, the one, I'm being like, I said, what the fuck are you guys doing, man?
Like these people are good people.
And I pointed at the assistant manager who walked out, the one that that guy at the red
shirt was screaming his face.
That's when it all started and I turned around.
So he ended up being removed from the restaurant.
So when the assistant manager came out to try to break it up, that William Carroll guy grabbed him by the neck and threw him against the car. You could see that in one of the clips.
So as he veers off and goes and does that, you could see me pointing. And then one of the other guys is like, fight him, fight him.
And pointing at the Danny Bradley guy, I go, I go, you guys back up and I'll square off with them one-on-one, but they never backed up. It was never, it was never going to be a fair fight.
Right. At one point, I think there was three or four of them because two or three of them had veered off to go fuck around with the assistant manager.
But the minute that they'd thrown them against the car and assaulted him again, they hop back in to come out by the dumpster. So that's the, the words being exchanged we're like yeah i'd love to go the guy in the lime green shirt one-on-one but i know yet that ain't gonna happen yeah because it didn't happen in the restaurant it didn't happen when you guys got me down by the rock pile quickly when you started punching and kicking me and then it obviously didn't happen after i knocked the william carroll out when one of them tackled me like it It was a rugby match and then the other three had their way with me yeah they didn't they never wanted to fight fair i mean the whole story it's not fight yeah and if and if a few of them want to jump in the ring we'll let sean daly the boot fuck specialist we can let him i'll take him as my uh my traditional salad appetizer and then send in danny bradley when i'm done with him i'm We're going to make these fucking guys famous, boys.
Yeah, I love it. We're going to make them famous.
We got to have front row all the Houston staff sit in front row of the fight. You know, VIP, just treat them well and they get to watch these idiots get their ass kicked by you.
But in the meantime, we're going to let the legal process figure it it out and let's hope larry kazan the local big wig lawyer whose son wants to get in the mix firing dms off the good side like this guy lives locally his son ben went to asu and these guys are jumping on those guys side that's crazy these guys terrorizing the streets of scottsdale when they live here i think it's a bad look for larry kazan and he can eat a bag of dicks too just like his kid um all right so biz i do have a couple uh hockey questions uh but i want to say a couple other things so uh we have the uh winter classics coming up at wrigley the blackhawks are playing the Winter Classic this year, and the Spittin' Chicklets boys are doing a live show on Sunday, December 29th at 4 o'clock p.m. local time at the Riv.
There's still some tickets left. Chelios is going to be a guest.
Confirmed. Confirmed guest.
Any other confirmed guess? Jeremy Roanick. Two Hall of Famers.
Love it.
And a local legend, JR.
He started his career there.
I think Mike Keenan was the head coach.
This guy's got the best stories of all time.
So does Chelly.
These guys are unbelievable dudes.
So happy that JR finally got inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
That was much needed and long-awaited based on what he did for the game. Not only on the ice but off the ice.
So great to have those two guys in the mix. We're actually going to have Tim Stapleton as well, who is one of the OG favorite Chicklets interviews, probably a top five guy.
He was the guy who kind of cracked open the can on all the Russian KHL stories. So he'll be joining us.
Yans will be there. The Game Notes guys, Merle and Army will be there.
And I think at this point right now, there's about 150 tickets left over. I want to say the venue seats about 11 to 1200.
Yeah. So there's some lower bowls available.
There's some upper bowls available, but it's going to be a live show at four o'clock. So even if you're a Hawks fan and you're going to the game that night, you be downtown come grab a couple cocktails come to the show at four and then you'll be out of there by 5 30 you can go grab a quick bite to eat and then off to the chicago blackhawks game and then of course they play two days later on the 31st which is going to be the winter classic it's going to be awesome i actually like that it's on new year's day yeah rather or sorry new year's day day yeah rather than new year's day just because people are like hung over it's almost like you go to the game you get that little buzz going you go have fun and then the next day you could just sit on the couch and watch football yeah and also it doesn't compete against college football uh bingo the bowl game so uh which by the way, he might stick around and watch a little bowl games with us on New Year's Day.
I'm going to. I'm going to.
And I'm trying to convince Yans as well. I changed my flight.
All right. I'll tell Yans.
I'll text him that. All right.
So, definitely buy tickets to that. You can buy it.
We'll put the link in the YouTube for our show today. So, go buy it.
Tickets for the live show. It's going to be awesome.
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Hockey question. Is it the Leafs year finally? Give us a quick, I don't know, three-minute, playing well who's playing like dog shit who's who's you know Macklin Celebrini he's been awesome like give us a quick this isn't our full NHL preview that probably won't happen for another two months but just give us a quick like hey here's what's going on in the league uh refresher because football's winding down and hockey starts for us.
I would say this is the best lineup the Leafs have had in the last 15, 20 years. Very solid back end.
They're getting incredible goaltending. They have three guys, actually.
Matt Murray, who finally came back from injury, who won a couple Stanley Cups with the Penguins. Mind you, he does deal with the injury bug.
They have that Joseph Wall who last year played incredible got injured for game seven um and then uh oh god I'm drawing a blank here uh their starter who just got hurt I'm drawing a blank but he's been unreal all season long for them he just went on the IR I think he's out four to six weeks help me out by googling him I can't I can't believe I forgot his name but they're back end solid they're core four all the guys making all the big dough uh matthews marner uh taveras and nylander are buzzing matthews has been out a little bit with back issues i don't know if it's spasms or whatnot he actually went over to germany to get looked at came back was buzzing when he returned and then left uh or got re-injured the other night after taking a cross-check in the back in the Buffalo game. But very solid team.
They're at the top of that Atlantic division, which is very strong. They're tied in points with Florida, who's a juggernaut again, who has the possibility to reach their third Stanley Cup finals in a row if they stay healthy.
Looking around the rest of the league, New Jersey, great bounce back here. Stolarz is the goalie's name for the Leafs.
Yeah, he's been incredible for them. A great pickup.
Going to the Metro, New Jersey just looks really solid. They solidified their goaltending.
They got Markstrom. And then who's the other one? Not Elliott.
Fuck. No, I'm drawing a lot of blanks on the goalie's names today jesus christ a little what's that you got poop fucked i got boot fucked in the head sorry folks uh but their offense is incredible they got a great top nine forward group great defense uh the probably the biggest surprise so far this year has been the washington capitals pfts team yeah Yeah.
They made a lot of trades in the offseason, like five or six guys they brought in, like whether it was signings or trades. And they have just really panned out.
Pierre-Luc Dubois playing solid. They got Jacob Chikrin over from Ottawa, who's a great defender.
Mangio Pani's been solid. Roy.
So they just, they went out and got five or six guys where they were able to gel very quickly i would say the overall mvp of their team uh not only ovechkin because of the goal chase but because of the mojo he's created around the team uh him and dylan strome have had incredible chemistry they really slow the game down it's almost like the reincarnation of backstrom yeah Not to insult Backstrom at all, but just the chemistry that these two have together.
But I would have to say Carberry, the coach.
He's the frontrunner for the Jack Adams.
He just is such a modern-day coach, players coach, really inspires the players,
and they've really gotten behind him.
Carolina's always solid with Rob Brindamore,
although people don't have much trust for them to get past the conference finals. They seem to get there every year and they blow their load and they just can't get over that hump.
Winnipeg had a crazy start to the year where they were 15-0-1. People didn't expect that, so that was another huge surprise.
And then Minnesota, Kirill the Thrill, another crazy Russian in the league who's been lighting the lamp. Probably a top three candidate for MVP right now and just an unreal player to watch where every game, game in, game out, shift in, shift out.
He has much watched television. And then probably just have to give a little bit of love to W witty's oilers who have made a a great comeback in a sense of another slow start they were bullshit off the beginning uh probably some uh hangover from going all the way to the cup finals and then oh god we got to do this all over again and then um probably the front runner in that pacific division is the vegas golden knights uh they got great depth up the middle have a really, really good back end and good goaltending, and they're well coached.
So that's a good synopsis of the league. I don't know if you guys had any further questions about the NHL, but that's pretty much my rundown.
I had one further question. That was a great rundown.
Are you worried at all about, because I was actually texting with wit about this uh that the dallas stars are going to be a team of destiny because glass banger kid got put in jail and he is going to get out right as the western conference finals start i i think dallas is a top five team in the league so yes like i i think that they could be a problem with glass banger. So a little bit of a backstory.
So for you non-hockey fans, it's a faux pas to continually bang on the glass as the play gets close to you, right? I can understand some people, it's their first hockey game, they're getting excited, the play comes over, and they want to start body checking the glass a little bit to like feel like they're in the mix but eventually you figure it out you stop doing that or someone just grabs your shoulder and says hey buddy stop banging the glass or i'm going to give you a knuckle sandwich or i'm going to kick boot fuck you like an iris traveler well this guy he's a trust fund baby uh he has glass seats he calls himself the glass banger he bang brings a sign every game has the hashtag bang he wears a full white suit and anytime the play comes near him or anytime he wants to distract the gold he's just continually banging the glass throwing body checks against the glass so even last year during playoffs the camera would pan over there'd be a battle behind the net and he'd be over there getting in on the four check with the rest of the team. Just bang and bang and bang.
And so the section that he sits in, the people are fed up with him. They hate him.
He also, to put a cherry on top, brings pay-for-play hookers to every game. Like he'll bring, like he'll call a girl from back pages, get sucked off in limo outside and then bring him on in and then just be obnoxious and then that's it every game in game out so apparently he ended up like what getting a dui and then forgot about it it happens yeah he was like he got pulled over he's like there was miscommunication he had a worn out first arrest for a previous DUI.
So now he's in jail. I mean, I don't know how that happens where you're like, oh, whoops.
Better call Saul. Yeah.
Like, I didn't realize that I had a warrant for the DUI I had. But yeah, you're mowing them down one by one.
What about Marchand? What about him? What bad stuff is going to happen? Because he boot fucked you in the face on TNT. Yeah.
He got good just one just when i didn't need it brad marshall comes in the cosa nostra uh brad marshall is such an
incredible ambassador to the nhl so i have no more beef with him nor do i want to get to put
any more headlocks with noogies from from brad but uh we had a fun little back and forth on tnt after that happened and i don't know how many people watched the the clip online but so every time
from brad but uh we had a fun little back and forth on tnt after that happened and i don't know how many people watched the the clip online but so every time pre-game the whole panel usually asked one question so they had just replaced their coach they fired jim montgomery they brought in joe sacco and i was curious to know because it's the first time that we got a chance to talk to him what was it it that Brad, as captain of the Boston Bruins, took away from when Sacco first addressed the team? What did you guys need to button up and change and what was the message? So I asked that and he's like, well, that's a bit of a boring question and then proceeds to answer it. So he antagonized me.
So I tap Liam. I go, give me one more.
So the other guys are in the midst of asking their questions and then finally they're they're done and he's not answering and i say brad uh one last question here from biz i said uh you're you know i hear it about all these uh off-season surgeries because he had like two or three off-season surgeries i said was one of them getting a turkish hair transplant because his hair looked great filled in some spots as the guys at barstool this thing can really change the the top of your dome he can big so he he had a good chuckle and he goes ah hi he goes i'm just trying to look like one of those irish travelers that beat the wheels off you the other night and just on the broadcast unexpectedly so i get i get nose kicked and he gets the last laugh so sure enough we have them on back-to-back broadcasts so we plan this whole skit where i do a department of player safety like george peros used to film the clips and we roll it and then i come out of it and i got the neck brace on and the head wrap and he didn't know So we got him a monitor so he could see me asking that next question. And then we shared another awesome back and forth.
But these are the type of things that I think the NHL needs in order to draw outside interest. And I just can't thank Marshy for being a good sport and not only involving himself, but definitely giving it back.
So it was a fun exchange. Yeah, you guys are so good on TNT.
It feels like inside the NBA. It feels like Chuck and Kenny and those guys.
You guys have caught the same vibe. I got to go sit and do a hit with those guys.
I sat down with them for 10 minutes to go on and promote the Winter Classic. So I got to down with those guys and as you just said they they laid the foundation so you know we could be a little bit more personable and maybe be a little less stale and traditional broadcast so not only you know thank you to tnt for everything they've done for me but also those guys for for laying the foundation of what is just non-stop entertainment and yeah, very grateful and honored to get to sit down with,
with all of them.
Ernie,
Shaq,
Kenny and who's in Barkley.
Sorry.
I'm drawing a blank to the guy to who was to my left.
Is it Kenny's I think you were in the middle.
So Kenny was to your left.
Yeah.
Kenny,
Kenny.
Yeah. I feel like he's like the glue guy.
Yeah. You always talk about Shaq and Barkley, but he has some quick one-liners.
He's a funny fucker, man. Yeah.
They have just great chemistry. Oh, yeah.
I'd like to present you with a part of my take, Citizen of the Year Award. I don't think we've ever done that.
I feel like 2024 should go to Paul Bissonette. bissonette citizen of the year wow you get the key to the podcast yeah citizen of the year it's got
a little bump on there for you boys boys i'm honored like i always get a little bit envious
when i see like the blank of the year or the awards that you give out and the fact that i'm
i'm taking in my first ever citizen of the year well i mean the year isn't over but right now
you're the front yeah don't don't mess anything up You're minus 900 to be the Citizen of the Year. Citizen of the Year award.
Okay, I didn't have a speech prepared, but I guess I should wait until the new year. Yeah, wait until you officially win it.
You got to officially win it for you to, yeah. I'll just say if I do win it, okay, I'm not saying I'm going to.
Don't want to jinx it. If I do win it, I want to pass I'm going to don't want to jinx it if I do win it I
want to pass it along to all the the the citizens of Scottsdale and also the the police fire department all the first responders and the amazing people incredible what do you why you do it what this is why you're gonna win it probably I just wanted to solidify that but all those police officers that caught those scumbags and helped rein those guys in from creating more terror in our city. So thank you to the police department of not only Paradise Valley but Scottsdale Road.
Bad boys bad boys What about the Don't do when biz comes forward Alright so biz I got one last question some road back question. RHOBACK.com promo code TAKE 20% off your first purchase Q-Zips, Polos, Hoodies, Joggers, Shorts so hopefully you will first of all go buy the tickets again the Chicklets boys are doing a live show on Sunday December 29th at 4pm at the Riv you can go buy tickets we'll it here on the YouTube.
And we'll put it in the episode description if you're listening on the podcast. Go buy.
It's going to be a great show. So my last question is, well, you're going to hopefully win Citizen of the Year.
You're going to come watch maybe some college football with us on January 1st. If you do, then we'll have you back on to do a Citizen of the Year acceptance speech.
But would you maybe decide, would you display your Citizen of the Year award in Houston's if you want it? Because I would love for the people of Houston's to pay their respects. Pay their respects.
So would you do that? Would you consider that? I would 100% bring it over and say, hey, the PMT boy. Only if next time you're in there, they give you a traditional salad on the house.
Okay. Okay.
I like that. Listen, you should not pay for another meal there ever.
Ever. We'll see.
We'll see. Okay.
But if you do the traditional salad, you got to do it with Thousand Island dressing. Okay.
Okay. They should at least name a menu item after you that salad should be called the biz yeah well maybe i could bring i know you're not going to be here pft but big cat maybe i can bring you when you're here on the 26th yeah bring you in there show you around show you the blood spatter that's still on the ground there be nice show me the people the chalk line yeah tremendous staff yeah we'll get like x's put on the ground like it's Dealey Plaza so people can go through it and relive the night.
Be like, oh, that's where he got boot fucked.
Also, your recap speech.
You didn't plan on doing it this way, but you have a way about speaking that's like, maybe it's part, you know, the Canadian part of you.
Where you're retelling this very scary event, but almost like in a whimsical way where you're like yeah three or four guys just boot fucked me in the parking lot outside the cvs and it makes you want to laugh as you're recapping it but it's like serious stuff it was just it's been a it's been a whirlwind of last month for you yeah you're our hero you're and thank you biz thank you for your service i also i first of all thank you guys for having me on and the kind words. And the last thing I'll say is, like, I was never that much of a fighter growing up.
Like, yeah, I got in a few dust ups on the playground and did a little bit in junior. But when I got to the American Hockey League and I switched from defense to forward, that's kind of when I got thrown in the fire where I had to start playing that role.
So when I was playing in the AHL, back-to-back years, I got over 30 fights. So we would get on a bus.
We'd drive to the away city. Get off the bus.
You get dressed. I'd have to fight Jeremy Oblonsky in Binghamton once or sometimes even twice.
Get bambied. Get conkied.
Go to the penalty box. There was no spotter back then.
You just went and licked your wounds in the box and acted like nothing was wrong. And then after that game, you put your gear back in your bag.
You hop back on the bus. You travel four hours to the next city.
You'd go and unpack your gear at that rink at 2 a.m. or whatever time it was.
You'd go to the motel. You'd sleep.
You'd wake up, and you'd do it all over again. You'd do that three in a row, three and th threes so that basically prepared me to get boot fucked in the cvs parking lot like i was i need to thank jeremy oblonski and the john morasties john nasty morasty and all those other guys who used to beat the wheels off me when i was learning how to scrap that prepared me for the irish traveler so without them i'd probably be drinking out of a straw on a respirator right now yeah well we're glad that you're not yeah but i do hope you get your nose fixed at some point they fucked you up pretty bad there yeah i'm gonna add that to the note that i'm sliding across larry kazan's desk yeah your business nose is perfect pay for the nose job you had a great nose before that fight they need to fix that uh all right well biz you're the best, man.
And Citizen of the Year award, we have
five days left in the year.
So hopefully you can
wrap it up. Yeah, don't fuck up.
I hope
this doesn't become a Jussie Smollett in the next
week where we found out that
none of this actually happened. But right now,
right now, minus 900.
They were hired actors.
We'd still probably give you
the award. All right.
Thanks, Biz. Appreciate it, man.
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Fire fest of the week to wrap us up, Henry. I mean, tough, tough to have a fire fest on a great week like this.
I don't know. I guess I watched.
I played nine holes on Christmas, had a great time with the fam, shot five over. It was like a part three, part four course, short course.
People were very mean to me online, but that's to be expected, not really a Fyre Fest. I watched Red One, the raw Christmas movie.
Horrible. Just an abomination of a Christmas movie.
You expected more? No got well i guess i guess the real fire fest i got trolled i got satired oh no i read a tweet i read a tweet thread from someone that was like i know all the reviews of red one were bad but actually it was pretty good and then there was a few replies from people that were also in on the bit being like, yeah, this movie was really funny. Like people don't like it was good and I bought it.
So I recommended it to my family being like, I think this movie is good. We should watch it.
No, you got more views. It pretty much within five minutes.
I was like, no, this is that. Like I, I went back and checked.
I was like, yeah, no, this was satire. I didn't pick up on it, and this is so bad.
Damn.
That's tough.
Add it to New Year's resolutions.
I'm going to get satire.
I think I'm going to read one book this year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's going to be huge.
All right.
In terms of FireFest, that's nothing.
No, I mean, yeah.
We got last week, and then we got this week.
Not every week is the same. Not all FireFre Fest are created equal.
Yeah. All right.
PFT? Yeah. Kind of like Hank, it's a good week.
Christmas. The joy is here.
I'm in the Christmas spirit. Got to see some family and hang out.
It's been a good week. My only Fyre Fest is, I guess, I went to a speakeasy on monday you guys ever go to a speakeasy maybe i never really know what the definition of a speakeasy is because like i feel like it's like something from like the prohibition era and and now bars just say it's a speakeasy but yeah unless there's a secret entrance i don't think it should be called a speakeasy i i agree and i don't think that there should be speakeasies unless they're actually like illegal places where you can like smoke inside and like it's against the law.
That's what a speakeasy should be. There are way too many speakeasies in America right now.
If you want to have a cool bar, you just call it a speakeasy and you just go up to the door, you like knock on it. You just have to know the right door.
And then you walk in and it's a bar. There's this one that's down in Texas that I just heard about where you go up to it and it looks like it's a flower shop that's closing.
And you go in and there's a guy that's like cleaning off the counters. And then you go in and he lets you into the actual bar.
So this guy up front is just like an actor playing somebody that cleans up at night. And then he's like, okay, here's the bar.
There's way too many speakeasies. If you're going to have a speakeasy, it should be illegal.
You should feel like you're getting away with something. Like you could, you stand the chance of getting arrested and have, or at least watching the entire place get shut down while you're in it.
There's way too many speakeasies out there. They're just bars.
You're looking for an excuse to charge like $7 more for a beer and $10 more for a cocktail, but you're just a bar you're not a speakeasy it's it's stolen valor yeah bars during covid that actually like ran yes were open like that was some true speakeasy shit where they like black out the windows and like would be like the cops are coming turn the music down for 10 minutes like i uh during covid i got a haircut and my it like when they weren't allowed to be open and in the bar my barber let let me in through the back door and then like kept all the lights off off in the front and i was like in the way back that was fucking cool that's what a speakeasy should be yeah that that counts as a speakeasy but now the term just gets thrown around fast you have it's not a speakeasy if i look at your wall and you have your health department grade on the wall you're right it pisses me off i don't know maybe there maybe there's people out there that like the whole speakeasy trend i'm not one of them can i piggyback real quick pft uh another trend that i fucking hate uh bars i can't stand i don't know why this pops up every now and then the bars that have the like pour your own beers yeah i hate that shit that shit is so stupid the whole point of going to a bar is have someone like you get to sit down you get to have a little conversation with the bartender they pour you a beer you feel like a man like i don't want to have to get up and go pour my own beer i suck at pouring beer yeah and you need to have a card to activate yeah yeah you feel like you're playing laser tag or some shit yeah sucks a dave and Buster's Mega Beer that you need to have a card to activate. Yeah.
You feel like you're playing laser tag or some shit. Yeah.
Sucks. A Dave and Buster's mega beer that you have to pour yourself.
I didn't like it when Elon did that, the Tesla convention or whatever, and he had the robot bartender. I don't want a robot bartender.
I want a bartender that's going to be friendly with me and trick me into thinking that we're friends now. And then I'm going to have a good conversation with them.
I don't want to have to like wait patiently for a robot or a machine to pour my beer. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
My fire fest. I mean, it's the bears and what just happened on national television, but it's also because Sundays we always stream.
So I'm not home. I watched the first half with my son and he was just like, why, why bears always losing and I just couldn't answer that I was just like I it was just I don't it's kind of similar to when he was like how how hot is the sun I was just like I don't fucking know like I don't have an answer don't same answer don't look at it yeah yeah don't look at it he was just like the he was like the the like, the bad guys have three and the Bears have zero.
Why are we always losing? I was like, dude, I don't fucking know. Have you had the conversation about, like, did you try to turn him off tanking? Yeah, no, he's been off tanking.
We had a long discussion about Caleb in the offseason that's not aging well. That was in the privacy of my own home.
I might have taken some videos on draft day saying this is the day that's going to change our lives, and we're going to play this later when you're like 15. But, yeah, no, it sucks.
It sucks. The Bears are miserable.
Thank God they don't have any more nationally televised games because there's only one more game left. But holy shit.
It's setting the game of football back decades. Decades.
It's so bad, dude. So Caleb had a dime, an absolute dot for a touchdown.
What are you laughing at, Hank? That's unbelievable. Yeah, I drafted it.
I was like, today's the day that we're going to laugh about this in a decade. That touchdown pass that he threw, was it to Roman Duns in the first half? This is awesome.
That was a sick pass. Personal highlight reel.
Didn't count. It's bullshit that the Bears aren't allowed to cheat.
They should be allowed to cheat. One guy should be allowed to cheat on every play.
I'm going to have to find these videos. it to you Hank it's just so bad it's just me being like you can just blame Thursday night football yeah all right good good good good Thursday night football there it is there it is okay we did record numbers so reminder we'll be back on Sunday night so you'll have a show Monday, and then we'll have a show on Friday as well next week.
So, Monday, Friday, next week as well. But yeah, let's kick it to ourselves in the studio where we recorded some lottery ball.
Okay, we're back in studio. Numbers? 17.
11. 80.
He's looking around for numbers. 21.
70. 67.
24. 25.
74. 5.
Shane Daniels.
Is he?
Yep.
He hates Shane Daniels.
Wow.
Quite the contrary, man.
He's so good.