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Week 16 in the NFL. Some pretty big results.
The Chiefs keep rolling. The Commanders take down the Eagles.
We had the Vikings continue their path to controlling their destiny to the one seed. We're also going to talk some college football because we don't have a show Wednesday we'll be back on Friday for a preview of week 17 but we're going to have to talk college football playoffs as well we're going to start with fastest two minutes all ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working nah neither has Ariat Ariat work jackets and boots are packed with all the cold stopping waterproof protection you need to get the job done under any conditions so you can take any job out there and always deliver check out Ariat in your local workwear retailer or visit Ariat.com slash work to get 10 off your first order when you sign up for email and weather whatever in Ariat Workyear.
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Today is Monday, December 23rd, week 16. They're not gonna get him.
Stumble! We start in Kansas City where Patrick Swayze Mahomes said pain don't hurt as he bounced off Texan defenders for a first half score on a bum ankle. Xavier, we are not worthy.
We're scum. We suck.
Was the opposite of that as he said game on Garth as the Chiefs come down the home stretch of the season. The Texans fought hard but CJ can't read cloud coverage through two picks spoiling the upset bid as Kareem Bergen Fish and Hunt Club said, murder? What murder? As the Chiefs continue killing their competition.
Chiefs 27, Texans 19. We go over to Baltimore where Najee, I see Harris, I see France, I dumped a log of Schittsburg in my underpants, had a costly fumble, and Ben, hooked on Scronics, gave Russell Wilson some very difficult reads, mixing up his L's and W's.
The Ravens' tight end touchdown duel was the answer to the question of what Air Force base is closest to M&T Bank Stadium? Likely Andrews. Derek Henry VIII took the Steelers for a pride, while TJ turned down for what? Got outplayed by Lil Jon Harbaugh, seeing the ball downfield, giving shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shots to everybody.
And let us be the first to wish you all a very Lamari Christmas as the Ravens roll Baltimore 34, Pittsburgh 17. Over to Sunday in Indianapolis where Jonathan Taylor Swift coming off a game where he was called the anti-hero decided to shake it off and tell the haters look what you made me do as he ran to all the blank spaces on Sunday amassing 218 yards on the ground at three touchdowns Rudolph the backup Q, made some very shitty throws.
Remember when Miles Garrett assaulted him? I would even say he blows. Colts 38, Titans 30.
To Carolina, where we say Murray Christmas to all and to all a Suge Knight as the Cards' playoff chances are on death row in this matchup of the two shortest QBs. Chuba Indian in the Hubbard has turned into a real young adult running for two touchdowns and the game winning score.
Dave Panama Canalis says it's not so easy to travel from west to east as the Panthers get their fourth win on the season. The Panthers 36, theinals, 30.
We head now to D.C. where Max was on scene for the Eagles and Commanders.
We head to land over Maryland where Jalen got hurt and was replaced by Kenny Let's Just Kick It who did a great job of leading field goal drives all game long. Hey, Braden, turn in your man card for being a pussy

who couldn't kick the ball into the end zone one time today,

and he allowed the commanders to start at the 40 on every fucking possession.

With a chance to win the game late, Devontae Smithy Elliott said,

Is it third down? Let me work it.

Put my hands up, drop it, and reverse it.

Ball's yours, Mickey Wickie Man, yet?

Ball's yours, Mickey Wickie Man, yet? Commander's 36. Eagles 33.
Thanks, Max. We now head to the Meadowlands where Memes was there for a great game between the Jets and the Rams.
It met life stadium. The Jets tried to breeze deck the halls with bows of holly, but it turned into the nightmare before Christmas for Jets superfan fireman Ed, as he wasn't shown on the Jets jumbotron not one time.
Ike ran, Ike ran so far away. Ike ran, Ike ran all night and day just to get away for 122 yards and a touchdown.
Tyler Higbee said I'm pouring honey on you, goat, as he walked it to the end zone for a go-ahead score. Joshua Playboard Cardi said he wasn't going outside today to seal the Rams' victory for a field goal.
With a field goal. Rams 19, Jets 9.
Thanks, memes. In Chicago, where Bears fans just want to be put in their caskets and go to die, the Lions decided to clown them one last time.
Hey, Teej, remember that song you just said? I remember that song. Boom.
Shot, shot, shot, shot, shot,

shots, everybody!

As it was shots of Jamison as Williams scored an 80-yard touchdown and Bears

fans won a shot to the head.

Talking suicide. In the third

corner, Jerry Goff goes back to pass

and fumble!

Just kidding. He did a fake fumble because Ben

Johnson has the bag deeper than the Mariana

Trench, someplace I'd like to be right

now. The Lions 34, the Bears

17. To all our listeners, lock the door, get the lotion out, and get nice and comfortable because it's men's sea time.
As the Vikings head out west to Seattle, Randy Jackson Smith Njigba said, that's going to be a Gino for me, dog, as he scored to tighten the game before halftime. Justin Timberlake Jefferson probably going to be popping a few bottles of Patron vacationing in the Samptons with Darnold stacking up first downs, reminding fans at home and Long Island police officers that the yellow line is not official.
The Vikings 27, the Seahawks 24. We finish in western New York where Hank is on the scene for the Bills and Patriots.
The Patriots and the Patriots. In Buffalo, it was Draco's season with the book Bag May, who started the scoring early with a touchdown to every kiss begins with K.
Sean Booty. Double.
J. Double Junk Dogger Cookie.

Scored twice.

And Teron Burgundy Johnson had a very important announcement,

and he needs all of you to stop what you're doing at once and listen.

Fumble!

Recovery touchdown.

And no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.

24.

Patriots 21. Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston, Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see.
It's DTR, won't make your pee-pee hard, cause you'll never see any TDs Come on Cincy You're looking frisky Please don't jerk around PMT Like you were Mancy The Bengals 24 The Browns 6 And that is fastest two minutes for week 16 in the NFL. When your home system or appliance breaks down, American Home Shield will help fix or replace the covered item, no matter its age.
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Okay, week 16 in the books as we watch the second half of the Bucks-Cowboys, which we'll recap at the end. Cowboys- Cooper Rush.
Might be... Is Cooper Rush a franchise quarterback? Are the Cowboys better with Cooper Rush? I don't know.
Mike McCarthy's saving his job right before Christmas. So, we got a lot of ball to talk about, boys.
We had Saturday football. Yep.
Hank, did you watch it? Did you see it? Yeah, sure did. We had Saturday football.
We got Sunday football. It's just awesome that finally we get football on Saturdays now.
Yeah, we finally get it. And we're going to talk a little college football because, reminder, we do not have a show on Wednesday.
It's Christmas Day. We'll be back on Friday.
That's going to be our schedule for the next two weeks. Also have an hour-long doc on Thursday, though, on YouTube.
Okay. A little extra.
Here we go. That's huge.
That's huge. So, yeah, it'll be Monday, Friday for the next two weeks during the holidays.
But let's get into it. Saturday football.
Chiefs 27, Texans 19. The Kansas City Chiefs are going to do it again.
They're going win the Super Bowl they are 14 and 1 and everything is rounding into shape exactly as we expected and exactly as they always planned Xavier Worthy is getting targeted yeah I think he had 14 touches Hollywood Brown is back yeah the offense looks legitimately good now yeah their defense is still like is you know the secondary is not great, but they still make big time plays in the fourth quarter. It just felt like they needed, whenever they needed a sack or a pressure that second half, they were all over CJ Stroud.
They're going to do it. I just, it's crazy, but they're rounding into form.
Between Hollywood Brown, Xavier Worthy, DeAndre Hopkins, Travis Kelsey, Gray, it's like they can go anywhere they want with the ball at any point. They can beat you in whatever way they want to at that given point.
They just have so many options right now, and they're looking good. And winning is getting boring for Patrick Mahomes, who's yawning on the sidelines.
Yeah, they still can't block for Patrick Mahomes, but it doesn't matter because his ankle is not hurt. hurt he ran for a 15 yard touchdown in the first half you're like oh this guy's not hurt at all he said that his plan was to not run and then he got in the game he's like fuck it i'm gonna run yeah because he just i think his body i think he's got a freak body that just can be contorted in all different directions and he'll be fine yeah he bounces back he's wolverine this is now their uh 14th win this season without scoring 30 points.
That is now an official NFL record. Yes.
Second place, the team they passed was the Frankfurt Yellow Jackets. Oh.
In 1925, led by Punk Berryman. You remember Punk Berryman? Yeah, Punk Berryman.
Punk Berryman. They had 13 wins without scoring 30 points.
The crazier stat with the no no game over 30 it's 31 points because they did score 30 I think against the Panthers but uh the teams that have not scored 31 points this season in a game are the Kansas City Chiefs 14 and 1 the New York Giants 2 and 13 the Las Vegas Raiders 3 and 12 and the New England Patriots 3 and 12 that's the company yep that's where you're in yeah the stat was most wins with 30 or fewer points they're just doing stuff just for fun it's not even like I mean that that that's a stat like the Chiefs don't have to score 30 points they're proving that they can do whatever they want uh and yeah I I really do like I watched that game I, yeah, this is their rounding into form. Exactly.
Like Xavier Worthy, just like Rasheed Rice last year, the beginning of the year, you know, he had that first game where he has that electric touchdown. Everyone's like, how could you let Xavier Worthy fall to the Chiefs? And then he has a stretch where he didn't look that great and they didn't really feature him much.
And he would get maybe one or two catches a game. And yesterday it was 11 targets.
and it was, I know he didn't look that great and they didn't really feature him much and he would get maybe one or two catches a game and yesterday it was 11 targets and it was I know he didn't have like crazy eye-popping numbers but he had seven catches he had another three rushes he had a touchdown they're just rounding into form and they've got they've got everything cooking so I feel like they're practicing getting him in the ball a lot right now because they're they might dial back on that a little bit in the playoffs but they'll go to him a few times a game and they want to know that he's ready when it happens. And he'll be ready.
And the Chiefs, yeah. Congrats to the Chiefs.
Congrats to the Chiefs. Three-peat.
As for the Texans, that game sucked a lot for them. Not only did they lose, but Tank Dell, horrific injury.
That was brutal, brutal, brutal. Especially because he just felt like he was rounding into form after his season-ending injury last year they also lost Jimmy Ward and Shaq Mason and their offense just it continues like CJ Stroud struggled and uh Joe Mixon couldn't get running and I just I don't have any any hopes for the Texans to make any type of impact on the AFC playoffs.
No, that was a tough, tough loss when Tank Dunn went down.

But we should say, tough motherfucker.

He held on to the ball after getting his kneecap dislocated.

Yes.

And you could tell it was serious.

And it happened as he was catching the ball.

Simultaneously, his knee gets bent to the side by some friendly fire.

And he hangs on to it as he rolls over as he's calling the cart onto the field. Unreal.
He's at the hospital now, and he's going back to Houston, so that's good. Yeah, that is good, but it's going to be a long...
It's a very long recovery. Yeah.
It also, just as a side note, Zach Miller did catch it, because that did happen, remember, when he basically went sideways? And you hear the news right away, Tankdale has to go to the hospital. You're like, like oh shit that's i think that's because of artery and they got to make sure the emergency surgery um so yeah really really tough cj stroud uh was obviously shaken up by it and yeah i don't know i don't know where like the texas are in the playoffs yeah and they have they now have they're now down to just nico collins in terms of their weapons that they started the season with, which sucks.
And, yeah, I don't really know. I don't know.
Their defense is still good but not elite. And, yeah, there's just going to be a bummer to watch because you're like, man, that season, everyone had hopes that they could be one of those dark horse Super Bowl teams and it kind of just fell apart for them.
And C.J. Stroud slump.
It's like, I don't know what D'Amico's going to do. Just tell him, reimagine yourself as being a run-first team.
Just ground and pound. Yeah, but they can't even run the ball all the time.
Mixon wasn't able to run the ball in this game. I don't know what they're going to do, but it is a bummer.
Yeah, total bummer. But yeah, the Chiefs are going to win three in a row.
Does anyone feel differently? Like, I don't want them to. I'm going to be rooting for the Bills to beat them.
I think they will. But I watched this game and I was just like, yeah, everything's kind of just starting to click for them.
And it's, yeah, they're just going to do it again. Yeah.
We'll see you on Christmas. And we'll just be like, how did that happen? See you on Christmas, Patty Mahomes.
14-1 is crazy. I mean, I know that there's been a lot of close calls, but still.
14-1, it's hard to win in this league. And they're getting Harrison Bucker back and healthy.
He looked okay. Why does he do the thing where he falls now? I don't know.
After every kick? I don't know. It has something to do with his follow-through.
Yeah. Like making sure he gets enough hip flexibility on it.
I don't know. Very bizarre.
Very bizarre. Also, the Chiefs, the other part is their defense is starting to take the ball away, which I think I mentioned this stat a couple weeks ago where they were third to last in takeaways.
They had 10 total through 14 weeks. They've had 8 in the last two weeks.
So, it's all starting to work. And it's all going to just...
I don't really know what else to say. The Chiefs are going to win the super bowl congrats to the chiefs yeah it's inevitable yeah and and your fan the fans can post a meme and be like oh man this game's gonna suck just kidding we won you guys will just figure out a way you'll figure out a way no matter what happens there is a path for you and you will find that one path it's gonna happen it's gonna happen uh.
The other Saturday game, Ravens 34, Steelers 17. This was basically, I felt like it was a Freaky Friday situation where the Ravens and Steelers switched bodies because it felt like the Ravens were playing Mike Tomlin Steelers football in that they were getting opportune turnovers.
Lamar didn't play out of his they just you know the Russ fumble basically changed the game they're going in 7-7 Russ is going in all he has to do is slide at the two-yard line instead tries to jump and uh be a hero fumbles and then the Ravens turn around and go on a 98-yard drive and that was it that was tough because I thought Russ was going to score on that too yeah he got in got in the open field and then yeah just unlucky play for Pittsburgh and then you couldn't do anything about Derrick Henry. No.
I don't know what kind of angles Minka Fitzpatrick was taking against Derrick Henry but they were the wrong ones. Yeah.
Derrick Henry was just an absolute he was a hammer and the Steelers were the nail on Saturday and it was he had a hundred what do you have a hundred and sixty believe 162 yards he's the fifth player in NFL history to have uh four 1500 rushing yard seasons which I always feel like running stats like passing stats have gotten out of hand like running stats those count because yeah they used to just run the ball all the time so it it's Edron James has four, Walter Payton has four, Eric Dickerson has four, Barry Sanders has five. And I feel like we're seeing more of the good Derek and less of the bad Derek where he's slow around the line of scrimmage and gets hit for a loss.
Yeah. Because that was the formula in Tennessee for a while.
It's like just keep feeding him. Eventually we'll figure out a way to break him on a long one.
And then a lot of the times he just would have gains of like one yard no yards minus one yard and baltimore feels like they've figured out how to get him on the edge and get him even going downhill before he hits the line of scrimmage yeah and then you good luck tackling him if you don't take the perfect angle on him i feel like yeah this is like the thing they were missing last year yeah it's it's it looks pretty good in baltimore now the steelers had some they're a little bit banged up in the secondary. That was tough.
Joey Porter. Getting hurt early.
That didn't do him any favors. And they are getting Pickens back.
Yes, for the Christmas Day game. Yeah.
Who – their entire offense, if you listen to some of our friends. I mean, it looks – Jersey Jerry.
It looks like they don't know how to pass the ball downfield without Pickens. Yeah.
I mean, that Russ pick too, Marlon Humphrey, who's been incredible this year, that was also the game. Russ didn't play.
He had to play clean football. The Steelers had to go into that game doing what they usually do against the Ravens, where they basically just trade field position, get a couple fumbles.
The Ravens put the ball on the ground, but the Steelers just didn't recover it and get to the end of the game and find a way to make one more play. And Russ just didn't keep him in that spot where they could be like, oh, we're just a TJ Watt strip sack away from winning this game.
Yeah. Stupid thing I noticed after this game was over.
It was like 30 minutes after the end of the game. Kyle Van Noy, he posts on Twitter a picture of him just de-cleaning Russellsell wilson and he says like it's hunting season and it was such a sick picture that's got to be an underrated part about being an nfl athlete is like right after the pictures you get to look at all these incredible pictures of you doing superhuman shit yeah and be like yep that's me look at me i'm sideways look how sick i love hitting Hitting the fuck out of Russell Wilson and making him look like a rag doll.

Yeah, me smashing some guy into the ground.

Like just having a professional photographer

follow you around.

Instead of, like here at Barstool,

the worse you look,

those are the ones that get posted.

Yeah, Hank just tries to find the worst pictures of you

and post it over and over.

Yeah, it's just-

Or memes just, you know, memes us to death.

You have a staff of people who are assigned

to find the best looking pictures of you

that they can get their hands on and amplify those to the masses you looking like a greek god in action yeah i agree that's why i want to play in the nfl one day we need to hire a personal photographer that just makes us look good they'll be corrupted soon because we literally have the opposite i mean i don't know shane with with the youtube thumbnails i does he edit us to make us look ugly it's crazy crazy. We don't even look like ourselves half the time.
He has a filter where he can add 30 pounds to you. Why? Wouldn't it be? Do you think it's? I feel like if you're scrolling, you'd want us to not look like we don't look well half the time.
Yeah. I know that there's, listen, when we look bad naturally, that's funny funny but he distorts us to make us look weird he's not gonna like this discourse i mean but it's the truth is it not is it the truth does he do that or no there's times i see my i'm i see myself i'm like why do i look like that no i look like an alien yeah one point i think he added 40 pounds to my body and he he drew circles under my eyes.
Yeah, or like I have like a weird, yeah, a smile I've never done before. I think he just kind of, I think he's just like a sicko, just like, oh, it's not a bad one.
He just likes to see us in the weirdest positions. But yeah, you're right, PFT.
We need to get a photographer who does that for us. Yeah, look at this.
I don't even know. Yeah, you're making the little yikes face.
We're both bad. Bad picture.
The Skip Bayless thumbnail all time. Yeah.
Somehow Skip looks awesome compared to us. Thank you.
I appreciate that. By the way, the Steelers still can win out and win the AFC North.
So they have the record versus common opponents. They have a better record versus common opponents.
They control their own destiny. Now, will they? Because they have to play the Chiefs and the Bengals.
But that wasn't for the AFC North. It obviously makes it a little more difficult.
But they absolutely still control their own destiny. You know, as crazy as this is going to sound, because the last two recaps we just did, I kind of like the Steelers on Christmas.
Yeah, I like them on Christmas. I do not like them in the playoffs.
I have them in my Texans category of team that I'm not expecting to be in the AFC championship game. Yeah, but I like them on Christmas.
Yeah, I do. But it's also the Chiefs.
Yeah, that's true. And the Chiefs.
But it's Tomlin as a dog at home. Tomlin, dog at home, Christmas.
Everybody in Pittsburgh is going to be at the – you're not anybody unless you're at that game in Pittsburgh. That's a fact.
That's a fact. All right, anything else on this game? I wish these teams would just play all the time.
It is fun, although this was the rare one that wasn't close. This is a blowout for this matchup.
Yeah, Russell Wilson didn't really help us because, like I said, I was expecting this game to be close down the end and the Steelers be able to have a chance to win it, and Russ kind of ruined that with his fumble and his pick six. The pick six was the big part of it.
Yeah. Well, I mean, the fumble was they were going to go 14-7.
Yep. Fumbles happen, though.
Fumbles do happen. Okay.
Sunday. So, before we get to Sunday, shout out Scott Hansen.
He did mention me and us for the witching hour, but also shout out Scott Hansen. He's now changed the tagline to seven hours of red zone football starts now.
Yeah. His apology that he issued on Saturday was great.
First of all, it started out with a football in a football in the camera yeah letting you know who you're dealing with here and then he he took ownership he said he wrestled with the concept of whether or not to say commercial free football before he knew that there would be commercials and i i can only imagine what an internal struggle struggle that must have been for scott hansen um so he discussed that he apologized which i appreciated as a football fan yes i think some people still know how business is done the red zone is one of those entities so thank you scott for acknowledging it appreciate it but can we maybe just lose the commercials they put you in a bad position scott they put them in a terrible position they don't care about you scott if they cared about you they wouldn't have marched you out there with a gun to your head and made you say that yeah it was uh it was very funny how serious he took it which i i liked it he cares that much yeah i want him to take it extremely serious yeah he was he lost sleep this week yeah that's a fact about you know the fact that people are like you lied to us about commercial free football um okay so sunday commanders 36 eagles 33 who would like to start actually I want to start real quick. Okay.
You can start. I'm going to start, and then I'm going to kick it to you.
Okay. I'm going to start with just this.
Is that the gorillas? That was a cackle. No, that was me.
You guys are hypocrites. FSU Brando made a remix of that.
You guys are hypocrites. I love that clip.
I love that clip. We still lose.
It's either I'm too scared and I'm not confident enough, or I talk some shit, or I talk some shit. Max, we'll get to you in a second.
I just wanted to play the clip. It was funny.
It was a funny clip. That's a funny clip.
I get to rebuttal that. I get to rebuttal that.
I liked that clip. What was that clip? Rebuttal what? That was Max laughing.
After they lost? No, probably after one of our five turnovers that we had. Yeah, five to one turnover for the Eagles today.
PFT, I mean, Max and PFT, go ahead. Here's some analysis.
Number one, great hit by Max. He hit a plus 220 Commanders money line.
This is just a lie.

Money line bet that you put in.

This is just a lie.

Max put in a money line bet

on the Commanders.

I was pissed about the drop.

I immediately said,

fuck, this is the Falcons

are going to lose this game.

Bet it and then cashed out

within maybe 30 seconds.

So you keep saying that

and I did not hit a bet.

Max made a great bet.

I lost.

You made a great bet.

No, you didn't make it. Yeah, you made it.
Sick, dude. You made a great bet.
You made a great bet. No, you didn't make it.
Yeah, you made it.

Sick, dude. You made a great bet.
Sick.

That's so cool of you. Keep going.

Fuck face. Here's some stats.

Jalen Hurts

to A.J. Brown.
Zero completion.

Zero yards. Kenny Pickett

to A.J. Brown.
Eight

completions. 97 yards.

A tutty. And we can tack

another 60 yards on there for pass interferences that he drew. the chemistry i'd say is like best friend status between kenny pickett and aj brown um the eagles pretty much wrapped up the division so that's good for them and max it's tough to beat a team three times in a season so that could be good if we end up playing you again in the playoffs because we already beat you once so then now it's like oh you don't have the pressure of having to beat the commanders three times um but as several smart people on this podcast have said you know everybody gets everybody gets injured everyone gets nicked up this time of year it's not like the detroit lions are the only team in the nfl that's injured next man up got to play through can't be an excuse.
And so someone really smart said that, so I wanted to make sure to amplify that. We're a national sports podcast.
Injuries happen. Next man up.
I don't think Kenny Pickett is the reason the Eagles lost that game. I think if Jalen Hurts plays the whole game, the Eagles definitely win that game, but I don't think Kenny Pickett is the reason they lost that game.
Does that? Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.
That makes sense. Braden Mann has to get the ball in the end zone.
The commander started at midfield every single possession. Luke McCaffrey.
Every single possession. Okay.
I don't understand. Like, that is a huge thing.
Devontae Smith has to catch that football, and the defense can't give up 22 points in the fourth quarter. That's what it comes down to.
None of that has to do with Kenny Pickett. Right.
And listen, Jaden Daniels was fucking awesome today. Jaden Daniels threw a fourth quarter pick with two and a half minutes to go that would have lost the game if one of the best receivers in football caught the fucking football.
Then you know what he did? He went down and he threw his fifth touchdown pass. He's a rookie that makes very good plays and also very bad plays.
Yeah, he made some rookie mistakes. He had two bad picks today, but he's still fucking awesome.
If Devontae Smith catches that ball, you are sitting here talking, Jaden Daniels is a rookie. I wish that he didn't make that rookie mistake.
Are we going to do the ifs game? I'm just saying.

You like to just nitpick plays, but he's a rookie that makes good plays and he makes bad plays.

He almost lost the game.

I always say when he screws up.

He should have lost the game.

He threw two bad picks.

If Devontae Smith catches that ball, he lost the game.

He threw two bad picks today.

Put them in a position where they could have lost, but guess what?

Where they should have lost.

And then he won the game.

And Devontae, yes, correct.

That last drive was very good by him. But the drive before was very bad.
And you have to say both. Yeah.
You have to say both. Bad pick.
No, no, no, no. You didn't say both.
I said both. Bad pick.
He did say both. Bad picks.
You didn't say both until he said both. He also had some dots.
Some downfield dots. But Max is right.
He went that little mini round. You have to acknowledge the good with the bad.
I fully admit. You weren't going to until I said it.
His picks today were bad. When the game was on the line.
Two bad picks. When it mattered.
When it was on the line he threw an interception with two and a half minutes to go, Hank. But then when the game was on the line.
Again. But the game could be on the line for you.
The game wasn't on the line then. Yes, it was.
No, because if it was on the line and he threw that pick, then we would have lost. Right.
That's true. Game wasn't on the line.
I point back to BFC. It was getting close to the line.
Okay. Fine.
Max, you lost to one seed today. Correct.
It's fine. That hurts.
Realistically, though, the way that the rest of the games played out, they probably weren't going to get it anyway. The Vikings beating the Seahawks, the Vikings would have to lose the next two games.
Well, no. If you had won today, the Vikings could have easily lost to the Packers and then beaten the Lions.
Yes, that's the only exact scenario that could happen. No, it could have also been the Lions losing to the 49ers and then beating the Vikings.
It's not that crazy. Yeah, just one loss.
You had a lot of ways to. Let's see how it shakes out, but odds are they weren't going to get the one seed anyway.
Well, no, that's not true. They were very much alive for the one seed.
Odds are they weren't going to get the one seed anyway. Are you worried about the defense? You have one bad game.
It's the best defense in the NFL for 13 weeks, and then you have one bad game. But you've got to admit the bad with the good.
Correct. And this is a bad game.
Correct. 22 points in the fourth quarter.
You want to remind me how I started off this segment? One bad game. The defense cannot let up 22 points in the fourth quarter.

Let's just go around the circle and keep saying

stupid fucking shit.

Alright, so

I guess I have to talk about what I don't like

about my own team because that's how we should

properly appreciate a win on this podcast.

Is betting against your team

when the game's almost over

is that stupid shit? You will bet against your team whenever. Never.
You don't give a fuck about your team. I would never.
You are watching your games, wanting to lose. I'm not betting against them.
You are watching your games, wanting to lose. Hank is at least consistent with that.
I would expect that from Hank. I didn't expect that from you.
You're better than that. That was a moment where I was like, this is going to lose.
Maybe if I bet on it, they won't lose. I was putting that money in.
Why did you cash out? Because I got bullied. I always get bullied.
You don't always get bullied. There was a point when Kenny got into the game and Max's initial reaction was, I hope Kenny plays well, but not really that well.
Do you regret that? I regret that. That was bad.

I regret that.

You didn't think that Jalen could take it?

He couldn't take a little pressure? No, not Jalen.

I just hate listening to the fucking media.

You are the media.

We are all the media with X.

Other media.

So can he pick it not?

Do you think you win that game if Jalen Hurts plays the whole game?

I don't know.

Yeah.

Ball bounces a couple of weird ways. Who knows? I'll say no.
Also, another thing we have to talk about. Two things we have to talk about.
Okay. Two things we have to talk about.
Please. CJ Gardner-Johnson getting thrown out of the game for being mean? For words, yeah.
For words. Has anyone ever seen that in the NFL? Hank has.
Number two. Hank said he has.
I guess Jalen Hurts has a concussion. We don't know what words.
I guess Jalen Hurts has a concussion. The NFL needs to be consistent about when they're taking players out because there are hits that are so much worse than what happened to him that never get addressed.
He gave thumbs up. He gave thumbs up, went to the medical tent, put his helmet back in to get back in the game, and then someone from the NFL took him out.
Explain this. Explain Josh Allen against the Texans.
Oh, you have this pulled up. I get it.
Player safety. I want everyone to be safe.
Make it make sense. Make it make sense.
Make it make sense. Memes was like, the Josh Allen thing you've got to talk about.
Five seconds before he started recording. But did Josh give thumbs up? No.
Hold on, Max. You don't know what they said.
They could have said, hey, Jalen, do you have a concussion? And he gave thumbs up. Like, yeah, I do.
Thumbs up. The C.J.
Gardner-Johnson getting ejected for being mean. I got you there.
We don't know. I got you there.
That's just so dumb it doesn't. It's not dumb.
You don't think they could have said, hey, Jalen, do you have a concussion? And he went, yeah. He doesn't deserve a response.
Thumbs up. Yeah, I do.
He doesn't deserve a response. And we don't know what C.J.
said. We don't know the words that he said.
Do you want to come out of the game, Jalen? Maybe they asked him, do you have a concussion? Yeah, Jalen, do you want to come out of the game? You feel like you have a concussion? He gave a thumbs up. Maybe they asked CD Deuce.
He took off his bike. Hey, CJ, do you have a concussion? He was like, yeah.
And then they threw a flag. They're like, okay, I'll kick you out because you're concussed.
Where's he going? Did he say where he was going? No, he just left. No, he just left.
Jaden Daniels' last drive was awesome. Yeah, he had a few really good drives today.
The legs were working. Not having Noah Brown out there is a pretty big impact.
Although, hey, credit to Jamison Crowder, who's still very much in the league. Caught two touchdowns today.
Yeah, Max, you're back? Yeah, I'm back. Where'd you go i just i just took did a little pacing outside took a lap what are they the anger sharks no i was good i was good i should do that more often okay that was just a quick timeout quick timeout so i need a quick timeout when you guys are just being so fucking dumb i also feel like i mean i was lost i think i kind of i think i think if we're honest here, I think you had not even thought about the fact that the concussion spotter could have said, hey, Jalen, do you have a concussion? And they went, yes, thumbs up.
Like that dawning on you crushed you because you realized everything you thought about the thumbs up was a lie. Yes.
I think I'm right. This loss is pretty much designed in the lab to piss max off the most the way that it went down because yeah uh get kicking kicking an impact player out for words like two personal fouls on words yeah pretty crazy yeah i don't know what he said i don't know what they were looking at but the first one was nuts because he he says something, then he gets punched in the face.
Yeah. And then they throw a flag and they say, yeah, personal foul on C.J.
Gardner Johnson. Yeah.
And it's like, wait, what happened there? Nobody knows exactly. But the ref was like right in between them.
So I guess he heard something. But yeah, it feels like this was just designed to get Max the angers.
As mad as possible. Good job, NFL.
Yeah. No, Max got as mad as possible.
I mean, I think, Max, here, something positive, I think you guys win that game easily with Jalen Hurts. Easily.
The way Saquon could not run like he could run in the first quarter, first half, without Jalen Hurts in there. Because they basically can play Kenny Pickett completely different.

They basically just said, we're going to make Kenny Pickett beat us.

Correct.

And Kenny Pickett, unfortunately, could not do that.

Yeah.

But I don't think Kenny Pickett did enough to win the game

if Devontae Smith catches the ball.

That's also a fact.

That's why I'm not going to put this blame on Kenny Pickett.

Also, Saquon had a drop, too.

He did. And so did A.J.
Brown. Yeah.
Saquon had a drop? He had a drop, yeah. Because he's dropped a couple.
Good defense by Bobby Wagner. Saquon's dropped a couple.
We should say that. It was good defense.
Correct. Yeah.
Also. So was the A.J.
It was a good defense by Lattimore. But the Devontae Smith, there was no one within three yards of him.
Lattimore did not look that good today. A.J.
Brown kind of abused him.

It was not looking great.

He got a couple bad PIs,

and he was getting cooked out there a little bit.

Made me pump my brakes on Lattimore a little bit.

Credit to you.

Credit to me.

Credit to you.

That's huge.

So, Max, we might be on a collision course.

There's a chance that, I mean, the commanders,

what are they at, 94% right now? Now I want you so bad.

Oh.

Okay, well. Oh, you want him.
The way it shakes out. With Kenny or Jalen? With Jalen.
Oh, okay. If Kenny.
Well, because Kenny wasn't the reason you lost the game, so I didn't know if that was. No, it wasn't.
It was more on their kickoff. Yeah, I thought maybe you were like, hey, we can beat him with Kenny, because that would be the ultimate revenge.
I still think that I still would be confident if we had Kenny at home and a week to prepare. Because if you're a man, if you're a man, you beat him with Kenny.
No, I'm just saying. If you're a man, you beat him with Kenny.
Yeah, I mean, the way that you're talking right now, a week to prepare with Kenny, I'll take that. I don't get the kickoffs.
Unless they were trying to not put it. Your special teams is just bad.
Bad. So bad.
And it's one-third of the game.

That's a thing that will rear its ugly head.

That's the thing.

You got to be – what's the quote?

Two-thirds of the game?

Two-thirds of the game is mental.

A third of the game is Jalen Hurts not getting cost.

No, this isn't.

Nope.

It's a third of the game.

The NFL didn't want Jalen Hurd to play today for some reason.

You don't think so?

They didn't want him to play?

He thumbs up, and then he had his helmet on the sideline ready to go back in.

What if they asked him, hey, what month is it?

And he gave a thumbs up.

I'm happy he's safe.

Yeah, me too.

I'm happy he's safe.

Me too.

I'm happy he's safe.

Player safety.

Yeah, player safety is important.

But again, he might have just said, yeah, I have a concussion. Thumbs up concussion thumbs up you didn't even think about that so Max should Sirianni shave his head oh yeah yeah we scalp him he should old school also huge huge weekend for the commanders got RFK Stadium back as a site that was like in the middle of the night on Friday Saturday morning that's huge and then following it up with this.
Listen, this is a game that we probably had no right to win. Don't apologize.
No, I'm not going to apologize. We lost this game like five different times, maybe more.
So I'll take a win. It's hard to win in the NFL.
It's hard to win in the NFL, Max. Okay, so Max, I'll take another shit on my team because apparently I have to do that.
Dan Quinn, his time management at the end of the game was terrible. It was awful.
But then Jaden said, doesn't matter because I'm Jaden. I would actually argue that it was great.
It ended up working out. Because you can't leave time for Kenny.
No, you can't leave time for Kenny. It ended up working out perfectly, but I'm a process guy.
Six seconds is actually maybe a little too much time for KP. Yeah.
No, unfortunately, it was not enough time. All right.
Well, it's good that you're not yelling at us and getting angry. I didn't get angry at all.
No, not at all. I didn't get angry at all in this segment.
This was a mature conversation between colleagues. Cause number one of the loss was your kickoff specialist not being able to reach the intel.
I was so mad about the kickoff team today. Every single time he brought it back to midfield.
Every time. But give credit to Luke McCaffrey.
I will. Give credit.
Sure. And I'll give credit to your return team for blocking well.
Yeah, thank you. But why couldn't you just put it in the end zone? Like we couldn't.
That That last drive is a different drive if it started from the 25 instead of the 45. Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. Okay, well, congrats, PFT.
93% chance to make the playoffs now. Love it.
And holy shit, would it be great if you guys played. First time since 2012 that we've had 10 wins.
And looking at a record like this, I believe that's the first time since 1991 that it's happened. That's crazy.
So it's been a long-ass time. Do you have any last words for Hank? Because you were very upset at Hank in the gambling cave as well.
Hank's just a prick that just wants to be so lame at all times. He just wants to exist? He just wants to be so...
I was going to yell at PFT regardless. That had nothing to do with you.
The clip in question, we can play it. I literally started the clip by saying, I just don't want drama.
You're being totally serious. No, he's been legit because he was talking about the Kenny Pickett.
Oh, yeah, yeah. The Jalen Hurts thing.
I just want the Celtics to just collapse in the playoffs this year so badly. That's all I want.
That's all I want. That's the only way you can hurt.
I'm going to be sitting right next to you with my face right in your fucking grill as Jason Tatum just bricks the three that would have sent the team to the finals. Is this to the Sixers? Sixers are dead.
Damn. Shit.
No, they're not. They can get to 10 wins.
No, Sixers are dead. Now my sole goal is to just somehow have the Celtics lose and look at your face when it happens.
Oh, not the Super Bowl. Look at your face.
Not winning the Super Bowl. I'm talking about the NBA season.
He's on the NBA season. This loss ended at the...
No, you guys love putting words in my mouth. Congrats, Max.
Second place in the NFC. Pretty good.
That's also not true. Also, the laughing clip was incredible.
I played that because it's a great clip great clip you laughing was very funny i don't even remember what part of the game that was yeah i mean we're one of the turnovers yeah i think it was after maybe the uh diami brown fumble i think it was brian robinson fumble no because brian robinson fumbles were early yeah it was early it was the laugh was early yeah yeah losing a game where you're 5-1 turnover battle is pretty crazy. Yep.
It's hard to do. That's really hard to do.
But Jaden Daniels is fucking awesome. Kenny, yeah.
Except for those picks which are bad. Not blaming Kenny.
Not blaming Kenny on the loss but if he could keep a drive going together a little bit longer that would have been great. Max, you think that by the end of games opponents actually like Jaden Daniel daniels as a friend because he's he spends like half the time between the plays talking to the other team and like joking around with him and they're like laughing and shaking hands and playing grab ass i feel like by the end of the game they're like fuck i respect that dude like they kind of like him him and jaylen carter were like boys during the game jaylen carter is a mean guy yeah why were they – it probably took him out of the game a little bit.
Yeah, Jaden – Because he probably likes to play with a little bit of edge. Yeah.
And you – He's too nice. He was just dapping him up after like a good pass rush.
He's a good play. I see you, good play.
I hate that. I hate that.
Yeah. But – But what? If Devontae Smith just caught that ball, you would have hated that a little bit more.
Is that what you meant when you said it was the Falcons game all over again? Yes. Oh.
Because you remember Saquon dropped a wide open pass that would have won the game? I do. Devontae Smith did that today.
Now I'm thinking about it. And then the Falcons went down.
And scored. And scored with very little time left.
It was Monday Night Football. That was Jason Kelsey night.
Yeah. So that's what I was referring to.
So if Saquon and Devontae Smith catch the ball, you one seed. Correct.
Oh, yeah. Minimum.
Both of those. If two of the best players in the league just catch a wide-open ball to win the game.
One seed. One seed.
One seed. So now the Commanders-Falcons game next Sunday night, big game.
Very big game, Falcons-Commanders. Yeah.
Well, not as much for you. No, it's big.
But the Seahawks losing, I mean, even if you lose, the Seahawks have to win out. No, but it's a big game for seeding, too.
Fuck, you still have six seed. You still have six seed potential.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. For seeding, it's a massive game.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess that is a big game.
I want your ass. The Packers are about to win.
Yeah, but then if the Packers lose to the Vikings next week and we win out, then I think we get the six seed. You'd have them even if the Packers have the same record? I think so.
The same record? I think so. We'll have to find that tiebreaker.
I've been screwing around with the playoff thing that I have no idea what's up. The tiebreakers all are very hard to figure out.
So here's what I'll put it. If the Saints win now both teams 10-5, it's got the commanders over the Packers if they're both 10-5.
Oh. So I would assume that, yeah, if we can win out and the Packers can lose one game, then succeed, then we're looking at the Rams.
Ty Berger versus the commanders. Yeah, it says right there.
Then we'd be going to the Rams. Wow.
And then the Packers go into the link. That would be scary.
Max, now who would you rather play?

I've already made that statement.

Yeah.

The Packers.

No, literally like 30 seconds ago.

He wants your ass with Kenny.

He said he wants your ass with Kenny.

I would prefer Jalen Hurts, but even with Kenny, I would still.

Yeah, okay.

All right, PFT, you want to rip a couple ads?

Good job, Max.

You didn't get so, so mad.

A couple times you got a little mad.

Not so, so.

I mean, he took a timeout.

He had to rip a couple ads? Good job, Max. You didn't get so, so mad.
A couple times you got a little mad. Not so, so.
I mean, he took a timeout. He had to take a timeout.
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Probably not. Probably not.
And then Joe Burrow, what did his teammates say about him? Like, that's not Batman. That motherfucker's Superman.
Yeah. T.
Higgins said that, yeah. He got knocked down by his own player and was able to throw the ball with his body horizontal, his knee on the ground.
And it just feels like the Bengals – I mean, there was nothing the Browns could do really with DTR as their quarterback. They couldn't put together a drive.
Well, I mean, the start of the game, they get a huge run from Jerome Ford. They get to goal line, and he fumbles on like the, maybe the inch line.
And it was like, all right, if you don't score there, it's not your day. And Joe Burrow, that was his seventh consecutive 3-TD, 250-plus-yard performance.
That's the first quarterback ever to do that in the NFL. He now has 39 touchdowns, 4,229 yards.
He leads the league in both. He's having an MVP season withoutvp because of the way uh the team is played but they're still alive also jamar chase i believe will get the triple crown uh he's i mean he i know he just eclipsed 1500 yards i feel like he has 100 touchdowns yeah how many what is he he broke his own franchise record he leads the nfl in receptions He's got 108 receiving yards with 1,510 and touchdown catches.

So, yeah.

16.

Triple crown. So, he's defeated everybody in the NFL, including himself.
He beat all of his own records from last year. Yeah.
And he's up four on the touchdowns. He's up a couple hundred yards.
Yeah. It feels like he's going to get, I guess, the only thing that could be close is receptions, but he's been incredible.
And this is all, this season is going to drive Bengals fans even crazier, although, again, week 17 is going to be that game against the Broncos, which I believe is Saturday, Hank, Saturday football, will

be massive because if they win that game, now they desperately need the Steelers to

beat the Chiefs.

The Steelers beat the Chiefs because the Chiefs will rest everyone, although maybe they wouldn't

because that would be, I was thinking about it, if the Chiefs win on Christmas Day and

then they decide to rest their starters in week 18.

Carson Wentz.

That would be, I don't know the exact amount of days. I'm going to look at it right now.
Because it feels like it would be a massive amount of days. It would be 1, 14.
I think it would be almost 25 days. 24 days that they would be resting.
Rest versus rust. If they rested their starters and got the bye, that's a lot.
That might be too much. Don't you agree? It's a lot because, well, that's also like a little mini-bye for Andy Reid to cook on, though.
Right. He probably schemed something up in that Week 18 game, even with his backups.
True. True.
But that feels like that would be a shitload of time to having everyone sit out. If Mahomes is dinged up at all after the Steelers game, they'll just sit them anyway if they win that game.
Either way, the point is the Bengals are still alive going into Week 17, which at many points in the season thought wouldn't be possible. We said they were dead like five times.
A million times. And I don't know.
There's nothing really to say about the Browns season because DTR is playing right now, so it's not even watchable. Miles Garrett, I guess I say this, Miles Garrett, the first player ever to get 100 sacks before turning 29 years old.
That's pretty cool. Pretty good.
And he also probably wants to trade. And you know what? I say trade him.
Dude, i don't know why anyone would have any problem with that when he's he's such an incredible player and he's like yeah i don't really want i like i'm 20 i'm about to be 29 don't really want to be here for a rebuild uh because if i'm here for a rebuild by the time i'm like 33 and we're rebuilding i don't know if i'll still have it i mean most of his has been for rebuild. That's what's so infuriating.
He should not. I wouldn't want to do that again if I were him.
Hell no. Hell no.
Set him free. Yeah.
I would love to see the Bengals somehow crash the party. It's going to be.
I think they still need the Colts to lose and the Dolphins to lose. So they still need a lot of help.
But again, they're still playing for something, which is cool. Because that's really what it was like.
I want to see Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase still playing for something. Just from a pure enjoyment standpoint, Stefanski not playing Jameis.
I guess he's got a bad shoulder, right? Yeah. So we're going with a shoulder excuse.
But at least in games where you're coaching Jameis Winston, it makes you use your imagination as a head coach because he gets you into some jams that you wouldn't normally be in. Right.
And you have to figure a way out of him. Right.
And then you can actually use the whole playbook and have him throw the ball downfield. It's got to be a lot more fun to coach him than it is to coach DTR.
Yeah. So hopefully, once he's healthy, put him back in.
Yeah, put him back in. Get him back in.
I don't think they're going to put him back in. But get him back in.
Make us enjoy watching Browns games, please. For the ratings.
We'd really appreciate it. For our personal enjoyment, I'll be selfish.
I want it for myself. I want it for the good of the league.
Yeah. For the good of the league and ourselves.
Yeah. Listen, there's probably like 50 or 60 first-time watchers every weekend for Browns games.
I've never seen a football game before. And they want to see Jameis.
Let's give them a show. Let them see Jameis.
Let them see Jameis. Okay.
Moving on. Next up.
Colts 38. Titans 30.
This was a crazy game. Oh.
Oh. We got a touchdown.
No. We got a pick.
The Bucs have found every single way to fuck up this game that was crazy that was crazy all right actually we're gonna do the lions bears i was gonna do the colts titans because i thought the bucks were gonna maybe score and i wanted to half watch see if mike evans so we could get the uh td parlay for the people uh but that doesn't look like it's in the cards tonight because that was an insane interception. How do you intercept that? The Cowboys, no one wants to play this Cowboys team.
No one's going to have to play this Cowboys team after week 18, but no one wants to play this Cowboys team. That was crazy.
Just took it away from all the way down. Oh, no.
Do you have to play this Cowboys team? Yeah, I'll be there, though. Okay.
So you're going to save the season. You have to play this Cowboys team, too.
Yeah. Wait.
So you just said that. No, I seriously.
No, I was saying that because they're actually playing decent football right now. All right.
Lions 34, Bears 17. I don't know what to say other than the Lions just clowned us, which I expected.
But the fake fumble play that Jared and Ben Johnson cooked up, that was extra clowning. It's crazy.
How many more trick plays does Ben Johnson have if he's asking his quarterback, hey, can you accidentally on purpose fumble the ball during the play and then fall down and then stand up and throw it? That's not a play that a normal, sane person would use in a use in a matchup no offense big cat no in a matchup against the no offense taken i mean well they said they liked the look against the bears i'm all right so here's what i'm hoping uh ben johnson was just he's just trying to make the bears pay even more money for him by it's negotiation because there was a report that he's intrigued by the Bears, which I don't even... He might be just intrigued.
How can they be so bad? I'm interested. How has this franchise been around for 105 years and been this bad? But he also said he likes the sound of Caleb Williams' pass.
He likes how the ball whistles. Yeah, loves his balls.
It would be funny if he came out and was just like, yeah, when I said I was intrigued by the Bears, I was literally just like, how is this possible? We all should be intrigued by the Bears. How have they never had a 4,000-yard passer 105 years in the league? To invent a new genre of play, the stumble ruski, and then pull it off, the balls that it takes to do that, and they're good enough to execute it.
It's crazy. And then, so it was.
When we were saying last week, like, I don't know how much new stuff the Lions can try on offense with all the injuries they have defensively. How many more games can they keep winning? I think Ben Johnson just has a never-ending bag of tricks.
Deepest bag. And then to add insult to injury, I did text our good friend Jared Goff, and I said, was the fake trip play necessary? And he replied, sorry, big guy.

Next year is the year.

Big guy, yeah.

Which I've also thought about this.

Maybe he knows his offensive coordinator is going to the Bears.

That's why he said next year is the year.

Or he was just saying that to get your hopes up.

That also could be the case.

Yeah, I don't know.

The Bears suck.

The defense is awful now. Caleb was, I mean, the Bears suck.
The defense is awful now.

Caleb was, I mean, he had a nice pass to Keenan Allen.

I don't really know.

I mean, just the whole team just bums me out so much.

Do you think the big guy was meant as like a pat on the head?

I think he was probably saying I'm fat.

Yeah?

Yeah.

It is what it is.

It's tough.

Yeah, I mean, the Bears are a four-win team that kicked a field goal down 20 points on fourth and seven from the 12. Thomas Brown, there's the door.
Well, yeah, they don't really have a coach. He should be coaching up in the booth.
He should be coaching up in the booth. Put the head coach up in the booth.
Let's see what happens. It's hard.
I just wanted to end. We have to play one more game on national television on Thursday night.
But the Lions deserve all the credit. They bounce.
They get off the mat. They're 7-0 on the road this year, which I know there's talk like, can the Lions go on the road? Yeah, they can.
They're 7-0 on the road. Jameer Gibbs also answered the bell of, can he be the guy? Because he carried the ball 23 times at 109 yards.

So, yeah, the Lions are just – that's how a good team bounces back.

That's what a good team looks like when they get punched in the mouth.

They come and take care of business, and it was never in doubt.

And Jerry Goff has learned how to defeat the cold.

Yeah.

The narrative's over.

He looked great today. And the only thing that was – the only cold that bothered him is I thought for a second that Dan Campbell's nose was going to fall off.
He had the reddest nose of all time. He was very, very red.
You can tell that shit was running, probably crossing over a little bit. Yeah.
The Lions are just very, very good and their defense, I know they have some no-names, but they played well. And so yeah, I just want this season to end.
The only thing I'm rooting for now is that I want Caleb to so he's the first rookie quarterback in Bears history to go over 3,000 yards I'm hoping that he can somehow I think he'd have to throw 364 yards twice so average 364 yards to break the all time record for Bears rushing or sorry passing a season. That's all I'm rooting for.
To defeat the graphic. Yeah.
So Caleb went over 3,000 yards. That is the 13th time the Bears have had a passer over 3,000 yards in their 105-year history.
To put that in perspective, Matt Ryan and Eli Manning both have 14 seasons seasons over 3 000 yards so matt ryan and eli manning by themselves have more 3 000 yards than a team playing football for 105 years it's pretty crazy so right now you guys are drafting ninth yeah this is the worst year to be bad because so many bad is bad every team's really bad yeah have you thought about what direction you're going to draft uh i would like offensive lineman, but I don't know if there's going to be one there, so then just take defensive line. Whatever the draft pick is, it has to say line.
Take a big guy. Has to be line.
That's it. It just has to be line with a letter in front of it.
That's it. Okay.
Nothing else. If you tell me anything else, I'm sending it

back. And Ryan

Poles should probably not be the one making

the pick because there's some things that have

just... Listen, I like

the guy personally, but

we took a project

in the third round who can't even

be on the field. From you.

Yeah. And then we took a punter in the fourth round

who I like, Torrey Taylor, because he had a sick punt today, Aren't you glad you took Torrey Taylor? Yeah, maybe not. Probably could have used an offensive lineman.
Yeah. He's a pretty good punter.
Congrats to the Lions, though. 13 wins is the most in the history of the franchise in a single season, so that's pretty awesome.
And yeah, they keep rolling, and they have endless trick plays that will just keep coming out. And I'm hoping that was Ben Johnson showing.
I mean, McCaskey, even if he was showing the McCaskeys what to do, they don't know. See, I'm kind of with you that that might have been more of a negotiation thing.
Yeah. Price just went up.
He knows they want him. That was another million dollars, that trick play.
But now look what I can do. Right.
Right. You're going to have to pay a premium.
Again, take out the sorry big guy part. Next year's the year.
Ben Johnson might have told Jared, like, hey, I'm going to go to the Bears. This is the last dance? Yeah, I'm going to the Bears.
Yeah. I'm intrigued by it.
I want to see just how dysfunctional this organization can be. I want to hear his balls whistling by my ears all night.
Hear those balls. All right.
Colts, 38, Titans, 30. This was a crazy game in the fact that it started 7-0 Titans.
Then it was 38-7 Colts. Then it was 38-30 final.
But I'd say because this game doesn't really have a lot of meaning. I know the Colts are technically still alive.
This game was the game, and everyone knows this, listening to this right now. Every year in the fantasy playoffs, there's one guy who, if you have him, you won.
And if you went against him, you lost. And it's just cut and dry, black and white, as clear as that.
And that was Jonathan Taylor this year. This was the year if you go, you could have the best team in the world, and you against jonathan taylor today who had 218 yards and three touchdowns and you're gone well also if you went up against jonathan taylor last week you probably won yeah a lot of jonathan taylor teams got bounced last week yeah and we're this is probably like a big consolation prize game well i have jonathan taylor team i had a bye okay yeah so you could have a bye congrats with jonathan Taylor.
So Jerry had I had a bye. Okay.
Yeah. Congrats.
So you could have a bye. Congrats.
With Jonathan Taylor.

So Jerry had Anthony Richardson starting for us today.

JOC.

JOC.

And it's going to be a big Monday night game for the boys.

We need Brandon McManus to get 13 points.

Okay.

And then we advanced to the finals.

You can do that.

Jerry.

You can do that.

Give him a pump-up speech, Jerry.

Yeah.

Anthony Richardson, his stat line was very funny today. He was 7 for 11, 131 yards, a touchdown, an interception, but did have also 70 rushing yards.
It felt like when he threw the interception, Shane Steichen was like, no, we're done. We're done throwing today.
We're not doing this anymore. So one thing I on on both of taylor's long touchdown runs and richardson's long run uh quentin nelson you remember him yeah he's still awesome and he's still just beer games bowling people over just destroying people out there yeah very fun to hang out with at beer games beer olympics he's one of those guys where you stand next to him and this is a different species than i am fun fact i ch chugged faster than Quentin Nelson at Beer Olympics.
That is fun. I told literally the whole place probably too many times because I was drunk off of three beers.
That's a man. Yeah, and Quentin Nelson was like, okay, dude, you've said this to me 17 times.
Why are you so drunk off three beers? But a sneaky fun game. Yeah.
Yeah, it was up and down, fun game. so the only so the colts are technically still alive what do the colts have to win out and then they have to have the broncos lose out and i don't know can you can you do that for me real quick colt's still alive yeah i i also we are we should have mentioned this on friday but anthony richardson is on tebow watch i don't know if you knew that.
So he's at 47.7% completion percentage this year. Tebow has the worst completion percentage for a starting quarterback in the season at 46.5%.
So today actually was a good day for Anthony Richardson because he went seven for 11. Okay.
The Colts can make the playoffs if they went out and the Chargers lose out. Okay.
So the Chargers would need to lose to the Raiders and the Patriots. Got it.
Probably not going to happen. Probably not going to happen.
Probably not going to happen. But it could.
Also, Mason Rudolph, not the guy. Not the guy.
We're going for a spark. He's not a spark.
Mason Rudolph. We've seen enough Mason Rudolph to know that that's not a spark guy.
No, he's not a spark. This game was a spark.
This game was more fun than we expected it to be when we were getting ready for this slate. But yeah, Mason Rudolph not the spark.
But you know what? The Colts are going to remember that they played the Titans. Yeah.
They're going to be like, I know who we just played. We remember that shit.
Titans go to 2-13.

Also, really 2-13 against the spread.

Sorry, are they 2-13 as well?

No, 3-12.

3-12, but they're 2-13 against the spread.

It's not great when you say your team's not soft and then you give up 335 yards rushing.

But you know what?

Because I like Brian Callahan.

Positive side, his team was down 38-7 and they did not give up. That's not a soft team.
That's true. That is not a soft team.
They kept fighting. Yeah.
When they come off the field, they know they just played us. Yeah, exactly.
Listen, there's going to be no mistaking, we were only able to do that against the Titans. Remember the Titans.
Okay. Do we have anything else from the colts titans i don't think so we're watching baker mayfield try to get the the bucks down the field to maybe get mike evans touchdown which would be um incredible incredible incredible but i don't think it's gonna happen it's gonna happen i don't think it's gonna happen It's going to happen.
Do you want to announce it, Hank, here? Because they're going fast enough that you could just say it. Yeah, the Bucs have the ball somewhere near the red zone.
We could do our recap of this game while we do this. Baker Mayfield snaps.
He drops back. He's looking at Mike Evans.
He fakes. Is he looking at Mike Evans? Complete to not Mike Evans.
Yeah, I'm impressed that the Cowboys did not give up. How about Ezekiel getting a touchdown, huh? Yeah.
Just rolling him out there, being like, hey, Zeke, you've been around. Give it up for the hometown fans real quick.
Let you take one last bow for them. It's Christmas time.
It was bad. It's been a bad game for the Bucs.
It's been a bad game for the Bucs, but again, I'm more impressed that the Cowboys just have not given up. They have no reason to play, and they've kind of been playing good football recently.
Yeah. I do think that McCarthy saved his job a couple weeks ago.
I do too. And Jerry can be like, hey, you know what? Win before Christmas? Feels like the win before Christmas means more.
It counts as a double win. So Jerry always does the opposite of what we think he's going to do.
We've pre-fired Mike McCarthy several times on this podcast. Yeah.
And then Jerry's kept him around. Is this...
But remember... We're saying McCarthy has done enough to stay around.
And then Jerry's like, we got to move on. We've said this before, but Jerry Jones from the 90s is not Jerry Jones of the last 20 years.
He kept Jason Garrett around for five years too long. Maybe we've just got Jerry wrong.
Maybe we just can't get inside that head of his. He and Mike McCarthy is a great coach.
It could all be true. All right, ready, Hank? Yeah, that was an injury on the field.
The Bucs are huddled up. They're going to call the Mike Evans play.
You sure? Score touchdown, yeah, this is it. They really need to.
They really, really need to. Steven Che is watching in the other room being like, the game's not over.
He's been saying that for the last three hours. 26-17 Dallas with 2.43 remaining.
And the Bucs only have two timeouts. So they have to score before the two-minute warning to have any chance of possibly winning this game.
And they just showed the graphic in the Bucs. Losing this game is very detrimental to their chances of making the playoffs.
Because right now, the Falcons would have – they'd be ahead of them. They would be ahead of them.
All right, here we go. You'd have to beat the Falcons for Stephen Shea.
Mike Evans, bottom of the screen. Baker Mayfield snaps the ball.
He looks at Baker. He's throwing it to him.
That's not him. That's not Mike Evans.
Fuck. Touchdown Bucs, whoever the fuck.
That's not him. Scotty Miller.
Scotty Miller. That would be Scotty Miller.
All right, now onside kick. Ryan Miller.
Ryan Miller. Scotty Miller's on the Steelers.
Yeah. We knew that.
That's not fair to us to have another Miller. But that's also where Mike Evans usually is, right? Catching touchdowns.
Yes. Fuck.
Damn, Hank. All right.
All right. We'll go to the next game.
Now declared onside kick coming up for the Bucs. Or do they kick it deep? I think we...
Oh, no. They could kick it deep.
Yeah, two timeouts. Two timeouts and the two-minute warning.
It could kick it deep. What would the pussy thing to do be?

What would the wrong decision be?

I don't know.

And also, Hank, they're not going to go for a touchdown.

So that's out.

Yeah.

I think the wrong thing to do would be to onside kick it.

Yeah, I think you've got to kick it deep because you can win with a field goal. That means that Todd Bowles is going to onside kick it.

Yeah, probably.

That's definitely what's going to happen. Okay.
Rams 19, Jets 9. This game was weird.
Very strange. The Jets opened the game with a 99-yard touchdown drive.
They did not punt a single time this game, and they scored 9 points. They're the first team in 25 years to not punt and score fewer than 10 points.
Yeah. How did that happen, Memes? This game was incredible.
Yeah, Memes said that they're the most electric watch. Yeah.
I think we're the most entertaining team in football. I noticed that the PMT made an account put out a post saying that they turned into the greatest show on turf today.
No, no, no. When the Jets get eliminated from the playoffs, they turn into the greatest show.
They scored nine points. They scored nine points points and then they didn't score after i press in on that tweet ah there was a great drive it was a great drive so yeah so what happened today memes uh the weather happened a lot of wind um a lot of drops that's pretty much it okay uh fireman ed fireman ed continues to be banned from the jumbotron yeah Fireman Ed made the game about himself as soon as we lost.
What'd he say? He put up a post saying, like, once again, I've been frozen out from the Jumbotron. Yeah.
They keep squeezing him out from the Jumbotron. Yeah.
Very sad. We need to get in touch with Fireman Ed, not to talk to him or have him on the show, but just to then get him in touch withlin's man okay here's i feel like they need to talk to each other because the fireman ed was like hey i got squeezed out marlin's man be like dude same with me jets nation i'm at the game but this is the second home game in a row i'm not included on the jumbotron to do the chant with the scott and jet man oh man they froze him out that's crazy what he needs he needs to pull a tebow and like rescue somebody in the stands having a medical emergency yeah and then jet then jet man is sitting over there with his thumb up his ass and fireman ed steps into action saves a life that would be nice yeah i'm gonna need a statistic on how many games we've won with Fireman Ed on the Jumbotron and not.
Probably bad both ways. Yeah.

Yeah. need a statistic on how many games we've won with fireman head on the jumbotron and not probably bad both ways yeah yeah if i had to guess uh the rams are a very big issue for my pinky because they're going to win the nfc west now um they they control their own destiny uh and they have gone from a one in four team to a what are are they, 9-6? So they're 8-2 in their last 10.
They're one of the hottest teams in the NFL. What's kind of crazy is, although you don't think of Sean McVay as being a cold-weather coach, they're kind of built for it a little bit now.
They're just running the football. Kyron Williams, he's so consistent.
Yeah. He's just always out there getting just enough to win.
And their defense played well. And it was cool to see Tyler Higby back from his ACL injury.
His first game back scores a game-winning touchdown. Nice jump into the end zone.
Yeah, I mean, this is a bummer to watch memes. I don't know how they could be exciting in any way.
I'll give credit to memes. When they missed field goal, Memes correctly was like, yes, that's good.
Yes. I also knew they were going to miss.
It was a 49-yard field goal into the wind. Yeah.
And you want them to lose. Yes.
It was a perfect game up until Olu Fashano got hurt. He hurt his foot.
And then it was like, God the fuck. No, we don't know.
But a lot of people thought it was his Achilles. Oh, no.
But it's his foot. And so right now you have the eighth pick.
This really is the worst year to be bad. You're 4-11 and you have the eighth pick.
But I think this is actually good for the Jets, though. Okay.
Go ahead. Jameis, bridge quarterback.
Bridge quarterback. But there's so many bad quarterbacks.
you let the other teams take that so it limits your options.

Then you get the good quarterback.

No, none of these quarterbacks.

You're not taking a quarterback this year?

Not in the first round.

Okay.

Because Shador, Cam Ward, once they go, it's going to –

Yeah, yeah.

Then you need that third team to take the reach quarterback.

Yep.

So that limits you to take the best player available.

Hopefully a D-line that drops. Mikel Williams would rock.
Or Mason Graham. A lot of people say we have Mason Graham coming.
I want him. I want him.
The Bears have lost nine in a row and have the ninth pick? Yeah. It's crazy.
That's insane. It's crazy.
The Bears are like the worst team in football right now. We accidentally tanked, but we have the ninth pick.
I think someone tweeted it, but a four-win team last year at this time would have the third pick. How many wins did you guys have last year? I think we had four.
Yeah, you had the second pick. It's crazy.
So I'm looking at... The teams that are now with four wins and three wins, do any of them play each other? I'm not sure.

Does Jacksonville play Tennessee again?

Yes, they do.

That's going to be a big game.

Oh, my God.

You could hear Stephen Shea go screaming.

Oh, I don't think that was actually.

Potential fumble either way.

Third down stop by the Bucs.

They're going to get the ball back. A minute and 50 left.
No timeout. Yes.
I'm talking about it. There's no way that was a fumble.
No, there's no way. Freaking out for no reason.
He somehow watches so much football and still doesn't really know how football works. He knows how football works.
He just always takes the most optimistic view of things, even though the facts are right in front of his face. I can hear what he's saying.
I'm pretty sure I just heard him scream fuck because he realized that it wasn't a fumble. It was never a fumble.
He was always down. He couldn't have been more down.
Also, always crazy that Vita V does not wear gloves. It was funny watching him.
That was so down. Jake Ferguson was laying on the the ground.
Like that's what Stephen Jay does though where he'd be like ball.

He's like, dude, are you watching this?

It was very funny watching him tackle Turpin in the first half.

Yeah.

It's like the smallest player on the field and by far the biggest player on the field.

Yeah.

The – so the Bucs have a chance here.

All right.

So Rams are dangerous.

I don't know.

They're going to – what? I don't think so. Why? Not in the cold.
You need them to play Philly in Philly. Okay.
They just beat them in the cold. Matt Stafford had 100 yards.
Yeah. Kyron Williams ran the football.
We didn't punt, and we would just go for it inside our own third. I did like that Jeff Ulbrich was just like, fuck it.
This season is over. He was basically coaching it like a bowl game.
Yeah, it was incredible. He was just like, I'm going for it all the time.
I don't care. Except that field goal at the end.
Yeah. Yeah, the not punting thing is a little bit of a fake stat.
Because I think a lot of teams would have punted a few times. Yeah.
No, there was only... Because they went for it in the red zone.
Yep. I think they only went for it on their own side of the...

They went a couple times.

Maybe twice?

The field goal at the end.

Yeah.

Off turnover on downs.

Yeah.

It was fun to watch.

Three turnover on downs.

Three turnover on downs.

But how many were on their own side?

How many would have been punting?

Definitely two.

Oh, my God. He's screaming.
I just heard what a play. Mike Evans bomb.
Something big is about to happen. Oh man, we're about to watch it.
Maybe it's a Mike Evans touchdown. That would be incredible.
Oh, Baker. That was a crazy play by Baker.
Oh, a little shovel pass. Rashad White.
That was a pretty nice play. Oh, they fumbled.
Oh, they fumbled. Oh, no.
They fumbled. That's very funny.
Was he screaming about that? No, he said, I heard what a play, and then he probably got quiet once the... Oh, my.
Once the fumble happened? This is chaotic. Yeah.
Wait. First down Dallas.
Cowboys ball. Game over.
How was he not down?

They did all that to get that.

A fumble.

Oh, he was holding the ball like a loaf of bread.

Yeah, I think he was.

I think that was a fumble.

Let's see.

Here comes the replay.

This is great podcasting, by the way. that is a fumble it pulls out game over tell steven chay to get in here okay i want to hear a recap real quick just the two seconds i want to because i bet on the bucks i want to yell at them ball security is very important in this league and the bucks just didn't do that uh memes that.
That was so Jets are most electric team. Most entertaining.
Most entertaining team. Most entertaining team.
Yeah. It's like a choose your own adventure when you watch him.
You never know what you're going to get. Well, I think you do kind of.
Yeah. So when they're going to lose, you're going to go to Buffalo, maybe play spoiler.
No. Okay.
No. But electric? Electric, yes.
Shootout? Probably not. Yeah, probably not.
Patriots played them too close. Now we're going to get fucking stomped.
Yeah, killed. How can you be electric if no shootout? Electric in the sense that you don't know what's going to happen.
Yeah, you don't know what's going to happen.

What the fuck?

I mean, you got to hold on to the ball, Steven.

I don't know shit.

How do we have a timeout right now?

Did NBC not fucking update the scoreback?

Steven, what?

You couldn't have thought that that was a fumble by Jake Ferguson.

What?

The play before. The Cowboys.
When Vita Vey hit him. You thought that was a fumble? No, no, no.
He's got to talk in the mic. Alright, you got to talk in the mic.
Are we recording something? Yeah, we're in the middle of the show. Oh, okay.
I mean, they're fucking... In victory formation.
What the fuck? Oh, this was brutal. Did you see Vita hit stick on third down? Yeah, did you think that was a fumble? No, but it was a fucking sick play.
Yeah. Where would you say tonight went wrong, Che? I mean, million turnovers.
The Jalen McMillan, that was a touchdown. He's down at the one.
The interception? Interception, yeah. Yeah, no, he intercepted him.
I thought that at least deserved a review. I guess they did review it.

They definitely reviewed it.

They needed a second review.

Yeah.

I mean, where it went wrong.

That was your biggest thing, your takeaway.

In all honesty, and I tweeted this out when it happened.

Bucs drive it down into the first half.

54 seconds left.

They get a first down.

They have one timeout left. They're on the 11-yard line.

It's first and 10 from the 11. They called a timeout with 54 seconds left that's crazy it was their last time out yeah so you have nothing left they score the next play yeah so they give the ball back 48 seconds left the cowboys go down and kick a field goal so we don't get you know just a seven point touchdown we then go in you know that score difference goes from seven to four and and we lose by two points.
So, yeah, I think things went wrong there. So you need to beat the Panthers next week.
I need you guys to handle business. But now things get really weird because if the Falcons win and we win, then you and I are now duking it out for the seventh spot, no? No, I don't think so.
Because we had a tiebreaker against you. Oh, yeah, I guess it's the Falcons win.
If the Falcons win and you win, then you and I are now duking it out for the seventh spot. No? No, I don't think so.
Because we had a tiebreaker against you. Oh, yeah.
I guess it's a Falcons win. If the Falcons win and you win next week, we're still in the seventh spot.
We would be in the seventh spot, but then it's going to come down to the last week. Then it would come down to the last week.
Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
You've got the Saints. Yeah.
Probably a win. Yeah.
And then we've got the Cowboys. And the Cow are playing well and hate you guys if they beat us then that's yeah what um yeah does this ruin christmas knocks us out yeah i mean this is horrible i also had a giant future ticket on the bucks parlayed with two other division winners that i could have cashed out and i didn't so this is bad but i mean it's not it's certainly not over i knew this would be a tough game but this was bad brandon aubrey is a fucking weapon every time they got every single time we're near midfield he's kicking it right down the middle and he he does it like so effortlessly oh yeah like no doubt field goals as soon as it touches his toe it's like right down the middle all they have to do is get to 75 yeah all they have to do is get to the 40 yard line it's three points this is really deflating though because when the bucks stopped them right there on third down it's like we're about to fucking win the game yeah we're gonna maybe mike evans will get 10 more yards if he got 11 luke blutman was one yard away from a 10 leg parlay whatever it's the whole the whole night sucked it was bad all right it's great well you should feel bad you ruined no this is horrible It's a neat little shovel pass by Baker there at the end, right? So that play, I was thinking it in real life.
The Bucs tweeted out from their official account 25 years ago this week. It was – Super Bucs fans probably don't remember this.
There's a play on Monday Night Football, Sean King to Warwick Dunn, where he's getting dragged around by his jersey, shoves it to Warwick Dunn. He gets like 20 yards in a first – or no to Warwick Dunn he gets like 20 yards in a first or no Warwick Dunn shovels it to Sean King he goes out of bounds gets clocked 15 yards they go on to win that game because of that play it was 25 years ago this week that was a very similar play and then I'm just freaking out because he's about to get sacked gets a great jump pass forward and then all of a sudden I'm seeing a guy and the Cowboys run to the ends like what the fuck just happened I'm unfortunately very clear that it was a fumble yeah Rashad White should probably have gone high and tight there tough situation but yes I mean he was holding it loose and then he did bring it in but he got stripped I mean the Cowboys the Cowboys if they're gonna play lights out special teams and just get three every time they cross midfield and they're uh four takeaways, I think, tonight.
That's a tough situation for us to win it. Yeah.
Okay. Thank you, Steven.
Thanks, Che. Good recap.
Yeah, it sucks. It's brutal.
It's over. Hey, Che, I'll beat the Falcons for you.
Yeah, if you can do that, that'd be great. You got it.
That would actually be better than I was winning tonight. Oh, it would be better than you winning tonight? I always want to win.
I'd rather win. That's just me.
Yeah, no. That's just me.
That's stupid. Okay.
Next up, Panthers. Hank, that sucked.
We're stupid. Panthers 36, Cardinals 30.
I don't really have anything for this game other than, well, the Cardinals are officially eliminated. the Panthers 36, Cardinals 30.
I don't really have anything from this game other than, well, the Cardinals are officially eliminated. The Panthers, it's crazy to say because the Cardinals were 6-4 going into the bye week, and they're 1-4 after that.
They were top of the NFC West. They played the Panthers today, and this might just be way too knee-jerk, but I think I'm buying more Panthers stock than Cardinals stock going forward.
So do you think Jonathan Gannon's safe? I don't know. He might not be.
Is Kyler Murray the franchise quarterback? So I think they had seven penalties in the first quarter. The Cardinals have stunk recently.
I mean, James Conner getting hurt did fuck things up because he was going off, and he had 111 yards in the first half. But I don't...
Kyler Murray, like, I know he has incredible plays, but I don't know if I feel so confident about him just going forward. I don't know.
So he's now 8-14 in December. And that was like a Cliff Kingsbury stat, too.
It still might be. I don't know.
But, yeah, Murray has not looked good at all the last couple weeks. And, yeah, Bryce Young, you know what I'm amazed by? His touch passes now.
Yeah. Because he had absolutely no feel for the football until like a month ago.
He's pulling up the trade. The trade right now.
I'd still rather have all those picks on that side. And I think that Caleb Williams is better than Bryce Young.
It was a topic of conversation today. Got it.
Who was having the conversation? Barstow Sports Twitter. Oh, okay.
Would you rather have Bryce Young or DJ Moore? Darnell Wright. Caleb Williams.
Tyreek Stevenson. Tyreek Stevenson did kind of that is a sliding doors moment.
Yeah, I'd still rather have... You'd rather take Caleb.
Yeah, because we're probably going to get a future Hall of Famer with the second round pick this year. There you go.
Yeah. Did you want to have this be a topic of conversation right now? I don't know.
You like to have topics of conversation. We can, but just you passively pulling it up like say something with your chest buddy it's not my show say something with your chest don't just don't just put stuff up on the on the computer about it or not no say with your chest let's go i'm just saying say it then just i thought i wanted you to say it no no you don't care about what it.
They care about what you have to say about it. I would still rather have the Bears side of this trade.
There you go. What would you rather have? Because you pulled it up.
For people who don't understand or listen to the podcast, there's a computer monitor right in front of me and PFT, and Max will sometimes scroll like Sydney Sweeney tits just out of nowhere. As we started the Panthers recap, he just went and scrolled and pulled up the Panthers-Bears trade, but then didn't say anything.
As passive-aggressive as it gets. What do you think about this, Max? I think that I would probably still rather be on the Bears side, but it's a discussion that was the biggest haul.
It's a discussion because you're making it the discussion right now. I didn't make this a discussion.
Barso Sports main account tweeted, what a great trade for the Panthers with the trade, and it got 23,000 likes on Twitter. Oh, no shit.
LOL Bears gets instant memes. Back me up here.
Discussion. Numbers.
Any dunk on the Bears. The Tyree Stevenson thing is wild.
Yeah, that part hurts. That is a sliding door moment.
I still am going to take Cale Williams over Bryce Young going forward. I am impressed with Bryce Young and what he's done, and I do think the Panthers have a quarterback going forward, which is crazy.
I'm kind of impressed with Canales. Yeah.
Big time. I mean Bryce Young looks good.

He was dropping dimes. I'm impressed with David

Tepper. But memes

back me up. If you post anything that's

LOL bears, it's instant.

LOL bears, LOL jets. It's like instant

just spawns. Yeah.

Alright, good topic of conversation.

Good producing, Max. Well,

next time when you produce, actually

say it. I can't interrupt your conversation.

Yes, you can.

I can't do that.

Okay.

Never.

Sorry.

The Panthers have...

Wait.

So, since Bryce came back, they're almost 500 since Bryce came back.

They are 3-4 since the bye week.

And three of their four losses were by one possession to division leaders. Although I guess the Bucs aren't division leaders anymore.
But yeah, they're playing good ball, and they're building something, and it feels like their future, which was nothing a month and a half ago is actually something now.

I think Bryce Young is the starter next year.

Dave Canales has proven that he's a good coach because he took a horrific situation

and has made them a competitive football team.

And yeah, I think the Panthers, like, they're also playing in a division that

no one's incredible right now.

I think they're going to win one of these next two.

I think they're going to be either the Clubs or the Falcons. I think they're going to be spoilers.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I'm impressed with the Panthers.
Yeah. I think Bryce Young is good.
They're the one... I'd still take Caleb Williams.
Would you rather play the Panthers or the Cowboys now? I can say both things. What? Would you rather play the Panthers or the Cowboys? The Cowboys.
Or no, the Panthers. Because the Cowboys beat the Panthers.
Just beat the shit out of the Panthers. Yeah that was also the Panthers being favorites, which wasn't fair to the Panthers.
That's not the Panthers. They shouldn't have done that.
That was actually very mean to the Panthers. But yeah, I think they're prime for spoiler season right now.
Yeah. And then the Cardinals are dead, and I don't really know what their future is.
I don't know. See, I don't know if it sticks around.
Future stock. Yeah.
Right now, I would buy the Panthers stock over the Cardinals stock. That's crazy to say.
Maybe. Maybe it's too in the moment.
Would you buy it? You buy the Panthers? Panthers over the Cardinals, 100%. Yeah.
Going forward, which is nuts because if you said that to me, if you said that to someone six weeks ago, you'd be like, what are you talking about? Are you crazy? I don't know. It's close.
It's close for me. I just don't.
I kind of. I mean, it's the two short kings.
And we've seen a lot of Kyler Murray. But Kyler's thicker.
There's some great flashes. I don't know.
Maybe it's, I take Kyler September, October, November, Bryce in December. And I know that this Cardinals roster isn't stacked and it's not all on Kyler.
But if you're paying him that much money and you're six and four, he feels like, and especially the fact that he's been in the league for, I think, what is this? His fifth year, sixth year? like this felt like a stretch that Kyler could have ascended a little bit and

kick. like, and especially the fact that he's been in the league for, I think, what is this, his fifth year, sixth year? Like, this felt like a stretch that Kyler could have ascended a little bit and carried the Cardinals to a playoff spot, and they'd just fallen on their face.
Is Marvin Harrison Jr. awesome? I don't know.
I don't know if he is or not. Yeah, I'm not sure.
He hasn't really... You'd like to see a little bit more out of Marvin Harrison Jr.
You'd probably like to see a little bit more out of Marvin Harrison Jr. But yeah, if Connor doesn't get hurt...
I mean, this game went to overtime. Yeah.
So it's not like the Panthers are leaps and bounds ahead of the Cardinals. No, agreed.
So it was a close game. You were down your starting running back.
One of your best players. But the Panthers also did come out to a pretty big lead.
But yeah. It just seems like things have not...
They haven't gone well recently for the Cardinals. Yeah.
Where they were six and four going to the bye week and I was like, they're impressing me. Turns out they had just beaten the Bears and the Jets and I think the Patriots.
How much time- That should have been the sign. How much time do you think is going to be spent on Arizona Sports Talk Radio talking about Gannon and whether or not he should stick around? I think it's going to be about Kyler.
You think so? Yeah. I mean, Gannon's only on year two.
Yeah. So I think he's probably going to have – and, I mean, they are better than they were year one.
What did they finish last year? What was it? They were picking, what, fourth? So they were pretty bad last year. So they've gone in the right direction if you want to just go wins and losses.
Overall. Overall in the season.
But recently it feels like it's been a lot worse. Yeah.
I think he probably is okay. I'm just saying more as Kyler is like this is the guy for the future, maybe.
I don't know. I have no idea.

I feel like we're six years into Kyler, and I still don't know.

Yeah.

There's sometimes where I'm like, oh, my God, there's no one like him,

and there's sometimes like, what's that?

That interception he threw, with like three and a half minutes left,

they got the ball back, but that was so bad.

I also think he throws some of the saddest interceptions.

He gets very down on himself right after he throws them. Yeah, yeah early game, Falcons 34, Giants 7, Michael Penix instant offense, first time Atlanta put up 30 points since October.
Huge offensive explosion going by points. Yeah, two pick sixes is how that happened.
This is more about more about I mean Michael Penix is actually not bad.

I feel like the

Falcons offense worked better.

It felt like they were better on third down.

It felt like they were pushing the ball further.

He was more mobile.

I know he threw a pick but it was not his fault.

Kyle Pitts basically bobbling the ball

into everyone else.

And it felt like Bijan

had more lanes because Michael Penix

the threat of Michael Penix was

This is... It's like basically bobbling the ball into everyone else.
And it felt like Bijan had more lanes because Michael Penix, the threat of Michael Penix was a lot more than Kirk has been in the last few weeks. Yeah, they couldn't just count on him to box himself in the pocket.
Right. So did you see the clip of Mr.
Mara? I did. He's reacting to the very mean graphic that they showed about the Giants? Yes.
I didn't realize, because the Giants are a historic franchise.

They've been around for forever. And this season, even amongst recent bad Giants seasons, has stood out as being, it can't get any worse than this.

Correct.

This is the first time they've ever had 10 losses in a row.

First time ever 10 losses in a row.

Everything looks just bad about the future of the franchise.

And then you're looking forward to week 18, where Philly comes in saquon potentially sets the nfl rushing record in your home stadium as like the ultimate nightmare but the good news for the giants is you are now drafting first overall yes and shador sanders is on the clock potentially he's ready to go or cam ward or somebody else who's really good but yeah that that clip where mr mara saw him i think he saw himself on whatever screen he was looking at up in the suite and he got pissed off at at fox broadcasters my prediction is that the uh the league's network partners are going to be told under no circumstances show mr mara during a broadcast anymore yes they'll get a letter from that um there was also a report this week that uh brian dable might be fired but joe shane might keep his job which makes no sense to me that's the opposite of what they should do yeah i agree um they're on the same timeline but that makes no sense i don't know who uh leaked that um joe shane how do you say his last name Sean? Sean? Sean? Shane? Anybody watch Hard Knocks?

No. leak that.
Joe Shane, how do you say his last name? Sean? Shane? Sean? Shane? Anybody watch Hard Knocks? No, I mean, I've seen that clip a million times. He is, so the Giants have been outscored 140-59 since he famously said they're not far off, which was five weeks ago.
They're the worst team in the NFL. Would we all agree? I don't think that's up for debate anymore.
I would agree with that. They're the worst team in the NFL.
And it's pretty clear that they're the worst team because I actually think they probably would have won it. They actually probably did it correctly by getting rid of Danielones because they might have won a couple of these games with daniel jones and now they are going to get the one pick and they're going to get to pick their new quarterback so the uh the graphic they showed the worst outright record of the nfl it's been since 1966 that giants had that winless at home since 1974 winless versus division never that still remains to be seen though and then the last time they had the number one overall draft pick was 1965 wow it's been a long time i think that uh it was the right move to get daniel jones out of there he definitely would have won one of these um but i it's it's also hard to watch the giants now if you're a giants fan oh yeah it's very hard a brutal watch.
You definitely want to lose at this point. You want the number one overall pick.
Yeah. That's worth a lot.
But at what cost? You have to watch alternating Tommy Cutlets and Duloc. It's only two more weeks.
Yeah. It's two more weeks.
I'm in a similar boat where it's two more weeks. Just get it over with two more weeks.
One of those could be a meaningless Eagles game, too, which would be so funny if they won. If they won that one?

Oh, wow.

That would actually be the meanest thing, Max. Wow.

If the Eagles beat the Cowboys next week, they lock in the two seed.

But I think their strength of schedule.

Oh, yeah, their strength of schedules.

So they would screw themselves if they won a game. They have to lose out.
Have to lose out. If they win a game, they could potentially go all the way down to six.
So what could happen is they win a meaningless game against the Eagles, and then Hank gets the number one overall pick. That's interesting.
Travis Hunter? And also that strength of schedule would be the Eagles are going to raise that. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
So they got to lose out. So it's actually a good thing that they suck so bad.
An incredible day for the Falcons. They're back controlling their own destiny.
Michael Penix looked decent in his first start. You got him a first start against the Giants.
So it's not like he has to go on the road for his first NFL start. Now you get to prove it Sunday Night Football.
Pretty big stage for him, but Falcons' defense is playing a little bit better. They also, I don't know how the Falcons always do this, but I become obsessed with them just because of where their players are drafted.

They were the first team in 40-plus years to have a top-eight pick

at QB, wide receiver, tight end, and running back.

It's wild.

And their tight end is – I mean, Kyle Pitts is just not good.

Kyle Pitts dropping that.

Yeah, that was a bad, bad drop for him.

But he might get unlocked by Michael Penix.

Is Drake London okay?

I don't know.

I think he had a hamstring at the end of the game.

So you might have to. Also, I'd like to say that Malik Nabors putting up these type of numbers, considering who he's had thrown in the ball this year.
It's impressive. We should not underestimate how good Malik Nabors is.
Agreed. He's very, very good.
Even though he's the king of checking himself out for a couple plays, might be hurt coming back in. But now he gets Shador Sanders.
Yeah, I mean, Kyle Pitts, that interception Michael Pennix technically threw. Kyle Pitts threw the interception.
Yeah. Threw it to him.
Yeah, you're right, though. Malik Nabors and Tyrone Tracy's really good.
That touchdown he had, the body control to get those feet inbounds was insane. So, yeah, they got a couple pieces.
Dexter Lawrence will be back. Maybe you get, yeah, you just need a quarterback.
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Okay. Dolphins 29, Niners 17.
You guys ready for the craziest stat ever? Hit me. So the San Francisco 49ers have been eliminated from the playoffs, and that means that the streak continues.
22 straight years, the San Francisco 49ers either do not make the playoffs or get to the NFC Championship game. That's wild.
That's it. Those are the only two outcomes.
Pretty impressive. That's pretty insane.
If they get to the playoffs, they're going to the NFC Championship game. If they're not going to the NFC Championship game, they're just not going to the playoffs.
And so the Dolphins are technically still alive. Yeah.
Right? That is. So what do the Dolphins have for them? You like that meme.
Meme's liked it. He's thinking about it hard.
He's really thinking it through. That's a good one.
Almost the same with the Jets. Yeah.
That's why you like it. Almost.
You could say that for the Jets the last 16 years. Yeah.
That they either go to the AFC Championship game or don't go to the playoffs. That's actually nice.
Yeah. AFC Championship game or have a losing season too.
Okay. There you go.
That's even crazier. Now the difference being that the Niners have been to like five NFC Championship games.
Yeah, they're better than us. Yeah.
So better than... Yeah, I mean they're...
I'm with you. They're better than us yeah so better than yeah i mean they're i'm with you they're better so for the dolphins to get in they need to beat the browns they need to beat the jets and then they need to have some help from the chargers the broncos and the colts that was way too much shit you just said they gotta win that was you just said like they need like five people to help them they got a win and they need they need uh the chargers and broncos to lose a lot and the colts to lose here's maybe one lost by the jaguars i don't know why they need the jaguars oh no no they need the colts to lose to the jaguars either the That's too much shit.
That's one of those. When we do the playoff iterations, if you need three teams to help you, I'm out.
Let me know when you get it down to one team to help you. Yeah, but Tyree Kill's back.
Yeah. They found him.
Why? Mike McDaniel doesn't need to wear those glasses, especially when they're not good. Yeah, it's a weird look when he's cold.
Yeah, and it just, I don't know. I feel like those are, we're scoring 50 points on the opponents, we're 10-4 glasses, not we're fighting for our lives and we need whatever you just said, all the things that you said that need to happen glasses he's just he's too far into we gotta believe mode yeah sometimes it's okay to stop believing yeah sometimes okay to give up journey said that it's actually really fun to give up it's fun to give up and just be like just give up it's never gonna get better why don't you just play well so that you have uh the ability to look back at what you just accomplished with pride yeah be like we won this game not because it means anything here's the here's the difference like the look at hank he's happy look at memes relatively happy i'm relatively fine max has a has the best chance on this on this entire podcast to win a super bowl and today pissed him off he's miserable when you come into into Sundays with no expectations and no hopes and no dreams and no future, you can't really get hurt.
Especially if you're looking at the draft. Yeah.
I can't get hurt. I'm going to get so hurt.
You're going to get so hurt. Join us.
No. That was a cute no.

No, I mean, there is something to that.

Not having any expectations whatsoever can't get hurt.

Yeah.

Can't get hurt.

So the Dolphins should just not try to do this.

You're going to hurt people.

Just give up.

Yeah, what's going to happen is you're going to win maybe next week.

Where do they play next week?

So I just had it up here a second ago.

How many teams do they need?

Well, they've got to win out.

Let's start with that.

They have to win out.

They've got to win out.

They can beat the Browns next week.

Yeah, they can beat the Browns.

So what's going to probably happen next week is you're going to beat the Browns,

and then you're going to get mad because the other three or four teams

that didn't have to help you out all helped you out.

Yeah.

You're going to be like, God damn it,

I can't believe that the Chargers beat the Patriots.

Right.

Browns or the Jets.

You're going to be pissed.

Oh, so they will win out.

Most likely.

But next week, if they beat the Browns.

It gets cold in New York.

And then the Chargers.

It's true.

If the Chargers beat the Patriots next week, then they're done.

Yeah, so they're out.

So you're going to put all this work in.

You're going to look through all the scenarios if you're a Dolphins fan.

You're going to take care of your business,

and then you're going to get super pissed off.

Patriots Charters is Saturday at least.

Okay, there you go.

So they'll figure it out.

All right.

Now I guess we just turn because the Niners have been eliminated.

Season from hell.

How much are we paying Brock Purdy?

You got to pay him.

I'm an owl, man. How much are we paying him? 50? Paying him 50? By the way, shout out to Brock Purdy.
They did the whole look at what these QBs gave to their offensive linemen last week, and he gave out. What did he pass out? It was something awesome.
They were trucks. They were all trucks, and it was an ad.
Yeah, it was an ad. It was 1,000% an ad.
This is what I've noticed is, like with Mahomes' one, too,

they took, like, glamour shots of the pictures.

I think they're all ads.

No, not Joe Burrow's.

Katanas are not ads. Yeah, the Katanas are not ads.

Those were sick.

Great gift.

So the lineman wanted guns.

Yeah, and he was like, I'm not going to get you guns.

You brought swords to a gunfight?

Does Cooper Rush have to get the gift?

He should.

Yeah, or does Dak still? I dak got that's hurt yeah um yeah no yeah he got them toyota tundras or something and they were like uh everyone's like oh my god he can't how can he afford this it's like well one he he still gets paid a decent salary and he also has a lot of endorsements and two an ad. It's an ad.
Yeah, these are all ads now. I don't like that we've turned this into the ad season.
Not the Katanas. And their worst trucks in Chevy Silverados.
Yeah, that's right. That's a fact.
I got you a death box. Yeah.
You probably killed his offensive lineman. Oh, we should get our offensive line Chevy Silverados.
Yeah. Chevy.
Let's do that ad next year. They have a wheelchair ramp? Yeah, we should get our offensive line Chevy Silverados.

Yeah.

Chevy.

Let's do that ad next year.

Do they have a wheelchair ramp?

Yeah, we'll get Memes, Max, Shane, Pug.

You're a... What?

The wheelchair ramp thing?

The whole wheelchair thing.

I come back.

I was so pissed off at PFC.

He's like, I got you this really expensive wheelchair.

Can you just roll around in it, please?

Is it not sweet?

The chat really...

I'm literally never...

I'm walking.

I'm going to go ahead'm walking. I'm walking.
You might have to have surgery. You keep saying that like you want me to have surgery.
I don't want you to have surgery, but at least if you do, you're covered. The doctor told me I'm not going to need surgery.
Wait, so you just came back and he had just put a wheelchair out in the middle and didn't say anything? No. Kind of like you did the fucking Panthers Bears thing in the middle of our conversation? That's not true.
The wheelchair arrived. I ordered it.
Max, I ordered it. That's really nice of you, P.F.T.
Thank you. The second I found out that my boy Max had a broken foot.
That was huge. Without knowing the diagnosis.
So let's not act like I did this after knowing that you'd be fine, Max. I thought the worst.
Maybe you'd never walk again. I ordered a motorized wheelchair with a joystick so you weren't going to have to lift a finger.
Yeah, thank you. It's awesome.
And you know what? Max, if you don't need it, guess what? We can use it for other stuff around the office. Oh, no, that's just a toy for the office.
You just didn't like that you had lost and he was like, here's a wheelchair. Go be my monkey.
Correct. Got it.
That's fair. Yeah.
Yeah, that's fair. Were you in the cave? I said that again.
No, I was upstairs. No, I was upstairs.
I said those exact words. What do you want? U.S.
fighter jet accidentally shot down. Fine, I'll be your monkey, and I just got in.
And then you did? Yeah, of course. You gotta stand up for yourself.
No, I always have to. Because of your broken foot.
No, I can stand now.

I'm basically walking.

Basically walking.

I'm not even bringing crutches home for Christmas.

Wow.

Is that a good idea?

Great idea.

What about the wheelchair?

No wheelchair either.

Why don't you bring a wheelchair?

What about the wedding?

I'm going to the wedding.

What about when you go to the Eagles game?

Going to the Eagles game.

Are you going to bring a wheelchair? No, I'm going to be walking. It's going to be sore.
You're going to try to get Big Dom to carry you. No, I'm not.
Yeah, you are. You're going to ask Big Dom to carry you, and he will because he's that type of guy.
I'm going to be walking. I'm good.
It barely hurts now. Oh, okay.
All right. Vikings 27, Seahawks 24.
Oh, I had Jake Moody sucks. I think they used a third pick on him, or a third-round pick on him.
Did they? Yeah, he sucks. He just misses kicks.
And Jason Sanders is good. Vikings 27, Seahawks 24, Sam Darnold, baby.
That was a – he got hammered on that play before he threw the game-winning touchdown to Justin Jefferson. I think he got his leg, and he also got face masks.
They did call the face mask. He just stepped up there and next play, dart to Justin Jefferson.
Sam Darnold, he's just good at football. Jefferson got penalized for gritting while making eye contact.
I thought the gritty was okay. I thought

that had been established, like case law

in the NFL. You can't do the eye contact.
But you can't look

at another man in the eye while you're gritting through the

flag. Can't do eye contact.
I didn't like that.

One thing I also...

I actually can't figure out if I like this or didn't.

Maybe you can help me figure it out. Jason Myers,

kicker for the Seahawks, trying

a 60-yard field goal.

I believe one minute, 57 seconds left in the fourth quarter.

He missed the 60-yarder.

Right afterwards, the camera caught one of his O-linemen jogging past him.

Sack-tapped him.

Hit him in the nuts.

I think I like that.

After he missed a kick.

Can you try to pull that video up?

I think I like that, and here's why.

Just look at sack-tap Jason Myers.

I think you basically give him and here's why. Just look at sack tap Jason Myers.
I think that

you basically

give him something else to think about

in that moment.

You know what I'm saying? Boom.

His homeboy got him. That's good.

You're

thinking about the kick. You're like, man,

that sucks. I can't believe I missed that.
He's like,

here, think about me sack tapping him. I think that

was a plot line in Major League Two. I feel like their catcher got kicked in the balls by a donkey.
And then his grandmother died. You think about his balls hurting so much.
Yeah, that's exactly what just happened. That's good.
The Vikings control their own destiny for the one seed. Has not been talked about enough.
They're just really good at football. Sam Darnold is just really good at football.

Their defense is just really good at football. Kevin O'Connell should be coach of the year.
He is now 25-9 in one possession games, which is second best in NFL history for a head coach. He should be coach of the year for what he's done with his team and for what he's done with Sam Darnold.
and they are a serious threat in the playoffs

especially if they get that one seed. I feel like there's going to be a lot of casual NFL fans who, if the Vikings win out, like, wait, what the hell? I thought the Lions had the one seed.
Yeah, but they play the Lions. Yeah, right.
And I mean, they have a big game against the Packers, who they've already beaten, but that will be a tough game. But yeah, the Vikings are just...
And Justin Jefferson is... It's Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase depending on...
They're both just the best receiver. Is that okay to say? Can I just say that? Can we make that an official declaration? Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase are the best receiver in the NFL.
And Malik Nabors is the best rookie receiver. Brian Thomas.
And Brian Thomas pretty good, too. Graphic.
Yeah. LSU.
Yeah, LSU makes good receivers. So what's going on with the Seahawks offense? Is it time to have a conversation about Ryan Grubb? I don't know if it's the Seahawks offense well they couldn't run the ball today they couldn't run the ball they don't try to run the ball they tried but no not really not really they they didn't really try well they also got down they got down in the game pretty quickly um i mean they were down 17 to 14 at halftime yeah well that Well, they scored to make it 17-14.

They were down 17-7 pretty quick. Even in the second half.

They never try to run the football.

That's the thing about the Seahawks.

Every week, they say, you know what?

We're going to recommit to the run.

Try to run it.

We've learned our lesson.

We're going to establish the run.

We're going to go out there, put our heads down,

and we're going to play off the run game,

and then we can go and play action.

And they never fucking do it.

They never even try to establish the run. Yeah.
They don't try. And I feel like we've had that same conversation about the seahawks for years yeah i don't know i mean kenneth walker's been banged up a bunch but yeah it's i i don't i also just don't know what to think of geno smith because he is at times great and then he just tries to throw picks half the time as well i also think that if you at least tried to run the football then you could do play action and then geno smith wouldn't be doing these things where he's like sprinting away from five guys throwing off his back foot while closing his eyes and saying a prayer getting picked off yeah that happens a lot for the seahawks happens a lot a lot yeah um memes did you like the three-way jets quarterback thing that was going on yeah fox just highlighting that the Jets are a QB factory and we know how to develop quarterbacks so they have success elsewhere.
Yeah, so Mark Sanchez is calling a game with Geno Smith and Sam Darnold all first-round Jets quarterbacks. Was Geno first-rounder? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know what to – I think Geno's good. I think he's fine.
But then I think he's bad. Gino would be a good bridge quarterback for the Jets.
He would be. To maybe get – To maybe jump off that bridge.
No, get Gino as a bridge quarterback and then sign Sam Darnold as your long-term option. Yeah.
I'll take Sam back. There was a lot of Sam discourse discourse I don't know if you want Just every time A guy Like sucks and then We should just remember That coaching matters so God damn much Kevin O'Connell is just a really good coach Coach of the year Yeah now Sam Darnold would suck on the Jets Yeah he'd suck at a lot of other places Kevin O'Connell is a great coach good coach.
Coach of the year. Yeah, now Sam Darnold suck on the Jets.
Yeah.

He'd suck at a lot of other places.

Kevin O'Connell's a great coach, and they have great receivers.

It is the perfect landing spot for a quarterback right now.

Yeah.

Okay.

Hank.

Welcome back.

Bills 24, Patriots 21.

Good game.

Did Gerard Mayo save his job with that first quarter? Maybe. Hopefully not.
Well, your quarterback disagrees with you. Yeah, I like this.
I like this comment from Drake. So Drake May said that he's had enough of the BS that there's a mutiny going on, that they don't want Mayo back.
They want Mayo. But except for Hank, Hank doesn't want Mayo.
What did he say? Is that exactly what he said? I think that was exactly what he said. I think it was more than backing up his coach was a sign of a good leader.
It's maturity. I'll look it up.
I'll look it up. I like that Gerard Mayo did the fake punt.
Fake punt was good. Drake May threw a couple of dimes.
Patriots were frisky. Patriots had a had a lead okay here's what he said uh on the net this is him speaking on the negative dialogue surrounding the coaching staff stuff like that i think it's some bs to be quite honest coach mayo like i said we've got his back i think we're building something good i'm proud to be a patriot yeah so he doesn't say i want that but he his back, which is respectable.
Well, he was referring to the negative dialogue surrounding coaching staff as being some bullshit. Yeah.
Which, again, he's having his coach's back. That's, again, sign of a leader, commendable.
He played pretty good. The touchdown pass in the first quarter was an absolute dot, but they lost, obviously, when there's a lot of bad teams and the you know the draft that was a good loss you win you win a game you can you can drop like six spots and that was a good loss that was a good loss how about how about drake may being the best scrambling quarterback ever yeah it's great perfect graph it was a great graph for you huge graph and the bills had their let down spot after a huge win against the Lions and still won.

Because that was they didn't look good i mean their defense got bullied in the first quarter they did kind of bow up in the second half getting forcing three turnovers then the the backwards pass was kind of all she wrote for that game josh didn't play great he also banged up he banged his funny bone. James Cook, though.
James Cook is a weapon. He's awesome.

And... She wrote for that game.
Josh didn't play great. He also banged up.
He banged his funny bone. James Cook, though.
James Cook is a weapon. He's awesome.
And I also liked Jordan Phillips. Did you guys see that on the Bills? He wore a full coat under his uniform to warm up.
He learned from the Tennessee Volunteers. I still don't understand why guys do that.
It makes no sense to me. Yeah, it's actually bad for you to warm up without a shirt on.
You do look cool as hell, though. Yeah, but it doesn't do anything for the tough intimidation.
It really feels like you're just trying to prove it to yourself. Yeah, you kind of are, because it looks sweet.
But the minute you do that, I'm like, you're going to lose. Because you're just trying to do it to yourself.
I mean, you guys went tarps off at Buffalo. It yeah because you were like hey let's take a picture you fat fucks in the in the snow and we're like okay it's a sick picture the thing is if you if you have to prove it to yourself and we put our shirts back on two seconds later and then when sat in a suite if you're trying if you're trying to prove to yourself that you're not cold by taking your shirt off, you're actually admitting that it does affect you.
Yeah, it's in your head.

But the cold's already won.

Yeah.

It's also like they make clothes for a reason.

That's true.

It keeps you warm.

It's pretty awesome.

Yeah.

You can wear warm clothes and stay warm.

Yeah, you have anything else this game?

No.

Good loss.

Good loss for Hank.

Good loss. Good win for Hank.
Good loss.

Good win for Buffalo.

Yeah.

It was weird seeing them wearing the Patriots uniforms.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was a little weird.

Trash.

Like, there were several times when actually, I think Drake May launched a bomb downfield.

It got picked off.

But then I thought that it was a Patriots receiver that caught it.

Yeah.

Even though the other uniform, it was a mind fuck.

I didn't like it. What do you have in your, what, what is that? Max is playing with dolls.
You're playing with dolls? I'm at the ADD portion. Yeah.
All right. It's a Chucky thing.
I've been scaring memes with it. Well, we have one last game.
Don't look at the light. We have Raiders 19, Jaguars 14, and we have a special announcement.
Okay, breaking moves. Breaking moves.
You guys remember the Pop-Tarts Bowl from last year. Oh, yeah.
Well, we got a big surprise. Hank, let's see it.
What do we got, Hank? We got the Pop-Tarts Bowl trophy. It's beautiful.
Right here in studio. PFT, guess what? This trophy has a built-in working toaster.
Can we get some Pop-Tarts going? Yeah, we sure can. Get some Pop-Tarts going.
The Frosted Cinnamon Roll Pop-Tarts. I've never had this kind, actually, and it smells delicious.
So this is the actual trophy they're going to give at the game they partnered uh with ge appliances to make the first ever championship trophy in all of sports that includes a built-in working toaster pop tarts delivering it on its promise of delivering crazy good surprises and a bowl experience like never before i'm so excited for the Pop-Tarts Bowl this year. You got to check it out.
It's going to be an incredible game. December 28th at 3.30 p.m.
Eastern on ABC. Two teams, three edible mascots, and a packed Camping World Stadium in Orlando.
So mark your calendars. There's tons of surprises, and we have the trophy right here.
This thing thing's a masterpiece this is the coolest trophy I've ever seen I love that it is actually it serves a purpose yeah it's just being a trophy yeah I would have this on my kitchen counter winning this trophy I'll say it better than winning the national championship yeah would you rather drink out of a trophy or eat out of it eat out of a trophy eat out of a trophy I mean how many people have eaten out of the trophy before yeah i would say probably none yeah so i'd like to be the first i would too we're about to do it so catch all the crazy good moments and get a sneak peek of each mascot by following at pop tarts us and at pop tarts bowl on social and visiting pop tarts.com slash bowl this year pop, Pop-Tarts is bringing more flavor, more fun,

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So mark your calendar.

Oh, it's ready.

Let's go.

Let's eat.

Hank, you want some? I'd love some. Okay.
Oh, man. That's delicious Pop-Tarts.
Hank, here. Got a share? Oh, man.
That's an incredible trophy. Max, how good does this look? It's incredible.
I'm so jealous. Greatest trophy ever.
So, again, check it out. December 28th, 3.30pm Eastern on ABC.
Two teams, three edible mascots in a packed Camping World Stadium in Orlando. And the greatest trophy ever created.
The Pop-Tarts trophy that is actually a toaster as well. I can't wait.
Okay, I think that's the best Raiders Jaguars recap you could ever have. Just getting to see the awesome Pop-Tarts trophy.
It was incredible. Also, Brian Thomas Jr.
very very good yeah and the Raiders Jaguars recap you'd ever have just getting to see the awesome Pop Tarts trophy. It was incredible.
Also, Brian Thomas Jr. Very, very good.
Yeah. And the Raiders screwed themselves in the draft.
I think that might be the worst win of the season. Yeah, I'd agree.
They went from the first pick in the draft to the sixth. That's crazy.
And they need a quarterback. Worst win of the season by far.

That might, I don't know, Jacksonville, Tennessee,

whoever wins that game, that might be the worst win. That could be very bad, yeah.

That could be very bad.

Because they're in the same division, implications.

Yeah, I mean, although Jacksonville doesn't need a quarterback.

But yeah, that's, the Raiders need a quarterback.

Yeah.

And they won that game.

This is a must lose.

Yeah.

Also, Brock Bowers continues to be incredible because he is uh 10 yards away from dick's rookie record and he also is the first rookie tight end to have over 100 receptions he's awesome it's what happens when you have too good of a coordinator like scott turner yeah uh he's yeah that's exactly what we got an update on his dogs did we say the update on We did not. Okay, so his dog is a Rottweiler, right? And then his parents' dog, is it a Dachshund? Yeah.
Small dog. So we were right on half of it.
We were right on his dad being a small dog guy. Yeah.
But he's not a small dog guy. Rottweiler.
Yeah. Man dog.
Also, great offensive coordinator because he has not been dealt the best hands. No.
But A. No, Connell, not so bad.

No, but again, he might be too good.

He might be too good.

He might be too good.

Go back to Desmond Ritter.

See what you can do with him.

Yeah.

Okay.

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Do you guys want to talk a little college football?

because we're not going to have a show on Wednesday. Yeah.
Let's a Roback question. How daunted are you? Uh, what? Hank? No, I'll let you guys go.
I got some, I got some, I got some, go ahead. Let's hear it.
Go ahead. You're going to be so miserable and what you're about to say.
No, go ahead. All week long, this is going to be the greatest weekend of football, the greatest weekend of football, college football.
You don't watch college football. How can you not watch college football? Wait, I said this is going to be the greatest weekend of football? Many people are saying that.
Okay. It was terrible.
It was essentially like reminding me of week. When you're playing random other teams from other conferences and it's just blowouts, no good games, not exciting whatsoever.
Just trash. Yeah, it was a bad first round.
Bad football. It was a bad first round.
College football is the only sport that I think that people are more obsessed with arguing online than actually watching the games. Because we had just the whole, you know, Indiana loses.
Indiana shouldn't be in. By the way, Kurt Signetti, biggest coward pussy of all time.
That's a bad punt. You should disavow.
That was the most daunting punt. You know what? I disavow that punt.
You can't talk shit like he talks shit on game day. Being like whenever we play a top 25 team, we beat the shit out of him, and then punt down 20 points, 20-plus points on midfield.
Like, what a pussy. He has mastered the art of losing to way, way, way, way, way better teams and then having the final score make it look like Indiana was still kind of in the game.
Yeah. He was literally playing for resume.
Like, Indiana fans. Like, there was another playoff.
Indiana fans at the end of the weekend were like, we actually lost by the least amount. It's like, we watched that game.
That is true. That game was never close.
You were never in that game. Also, I think you shouldn't like Kurt Signetti.
Okay. Because he's going to take more of your players this year.
I'll explain why I rooted for Kurt Signetti this year. It's because at this point, I have to accept reality.
I can fight reality or I can deal with it. JMU is a stepping stone school.
We might as well be the best stepping stone school so we get the best coaches that want to coach for us. But still, he took your whole team.

He's going to take more of your guys this year.

I'd hate that.

He might.

Like, that'd be a bullshit thing.

It was a pussy punt.

Insane punt.

It was crazy.

Listen, if you don't talk like Kurt Signetti talks, whatever.

You can be like, hey, the game's over.

We're just going to get our ass kicked. We're never going to get it.
It's fine. It would still be a pussy punt, but it'd be like, whatever.
He talks so much shit, and then he does that. That was crazy to me.
But either way, Hank, back to your point. Yes, the game sucked.
It is the first year of a 12-team playoff. I think the seeding obviously was a flaw in the system that they'll figure out.
It should have been Boise State and Arizona State should have been playing this weekend. That should have happened.
A team like Penn State should have had a bye. Texas should have had a bye.
They should have done the by buys based on the four highest ranked teams or whatever it would have been. I don't know if it would have been Notre Dame and Penn State.
Either way, they obviously have to figure out the seeding stuff. Here's my counterpoint to anyone who's complaining about how the first round went because people, again, college football fans, there's a whole group of them

that would rather complain online

and do the debates and, like, SEC hypotheticals

where the SEC's never lost a hypothetical.

Like, all Friday night, it was like,

Alabama would have been better in this spot.

Then you didn't hear them

when Tennessee got boat raced by Ohio State.

They kind of went away when you heard that

when the two-win team from the SEC got absolutely smoked by the Big Ten. The team that beat Alabama.
Right. Yeah, got smoked, and then Alabama lost to Oklahoma.
Yeah. A shitty team.
Correct. And then Ole Miss, you lose to Kentucky, another shitty team.
You don't know. But, yeah, no, they are right in that if you're an SEC school, a fan of an school you can just straight up say like sec is the best conference we would have done better than that yeah they they've never they're undefeated in hypotheticals so obviously the game i'm not gonna i'm not gonna pretend that the games were good they were not good i also think like you had four teams playing home games that were better than the four teams that were coming into their home stadium.
So I wasn't totally shocked. I mean, the closest point spread was seven points.
My pushback on anyone who's like, this doesn't work, blow it all up again. First of all, that's insane.
It's the first year. Second, what would be the alternative that you would rather have? Would you rather have Ohio State and Tennessee playing in the Peach Bowl that doesn't mean anything, that has 30 guys on each side opting out and transferring? Because that's what we did have.
We had guys opting out of the Rose Bowl two years ago. Listen, it was bad football, but it was still – Meaningful.
It means something because they're going to the next round. And you get to look at the brackets and who moves on and what those next matchups are going to be like.
And then that's where you run into some real complaining. Like Ohio State, by losing to Michigan – and credit to Ohio State, by the way.
Oh, they were awesome. Because they played really, really well in a situation where, like, we didn't know if they were just going to have given up on the season.
Correct. But they went out there and they just beat the fuck out of Tennessee.
But you're also in a situation where Ohio State, by losing that game to Michigan, ended up creating a great scenario for themselves and a bad scenario for Tennessee. Although Tennessee would have had to play Indiana, and Indiana lost by less to Ohio State.
That's true. Yeah, if you look at the scoreboard.
I'm just saying, I think Tennessee probably would beat Indiana.

Probably. But

Indiana did play better.

I mean, again, they scored late because

Kurt Signetti, that is what he does. Yeah, no.

He's really good at that. Number one

at Signetti

manufacturing a final score. Yeah, 10

point loss. Best loss of the weekend.

But yeah, it was not a

great weekend of college football, but I

think as soon as they figure

out the seeding,

which would be a lot better.

What would it be, Max?

If you go off the AP and then

you switch Bama and SMU,

let's just say they keep Bama in.

You'd have to switch Clemson too, obviously.

It would have been Penn State, Clemson.

Then it would have been Ohio

State, SMU. That would have been an

absolute route. But then it would have been Penn State, Clemson.
Then it would have been Ohio State, SMU. That would have been an absolute route.
Yep. But then it would have been Tennessee, Arizona State.
That would be a fun game, I think. Yep.
And then Boise State, Indiana. Would have been a great game.
Yeah. So I think if you go off of that, it should fix something.
Like the 5-12 kind of will look like a route again. But it kind of should be be like yeah that's exactly the point some of some of that the fifth ranked team should beat the 12th ranked team most times especially in their home place like that's that's just a fact and it's also not like college basketball right it's not football's never gonna be like that it's a different sport where if if you have one program has by far more talent, it's not like you will find yourself lucking into a road victory against that team as a vastly inferior opponent.
That's just not going to happen. The only other point I had, and this is where we react to these things in the moment, and I get it because I do the same thing all the time.
I'm way too reactionary with all this stuff. This weekend sucked, but remember the college football playoff going to 12 teams, in my opinion, made this season so much more fun.
Like we had weekends that didn't have, that would not have meant anything, mean something. Oklahoma beating Alabama meant something,

whereas in the 14 playoff, Alabama probably would have already been out.

So this weekend sucked, but you have to take what the 12-team playoff is

is not just this first weekend.

It's everything that happened all season long that got us to this point,

and it's also everything that's going to happen going forward where we have some really good – I penn state georgia is going to be a great matchup in my opinion or no that's not no notre dame georgia notre dame georgia is going to be a great matchup i mean we know ohio state oregon is going to be a great matchup because we saw the game earlier again the seeding part is kind of fucked up because they should have reseeded at least this year where oregon should played Arizona State or Boise State because Oregon got screwed having to be the number one seed, only undefeated team in the country, and having to play Ohio State. But it's a flawed first crack at it, and I'm sure they'll fix it.
Yeah, so if you were to go off of the 12, it would have been Oregon would play the winner of Boise State, Indiana. Right.
That makes more sense. That makes sense.
Right. They got screwed.
But that's going to be an awesome Rose Bowl. I mean, the best game was probably Texas-Klimson, and that wasn't even that close.
No. Just for a second, you thought, oh, Klimson, not as dead as I thought they were.
Yeah, they came back in that game. But yeah, I also like...
The NFL playoffs sucked sometimes too. Yeah, the first round last year I think wasn't great.
And again, Penn State's a really good football team. Notre Dame's a really good football team.
Ohio State and Texas are really good football teams. I expected them to win.
I wish it was closer, but that's just kind of how it goes. Oh, yeah, people are pointing out how last year was awesome, so they ruined it.
We still have this coming. The semifinals are still two rounds or a round away.
We still have more chances for great games. I still think on a whole, we had two great playoff games last year.
I think we'll get more than two great playoff games this year. Do you think people would be upset of a Penn State-Notre Dame semifinal and then a Texas-Ohio State? Yeah.
Those are good games. Right, yeah.
We're going to get there. You're complaining about the appetizers.
You haven't even ordered your entree. I'm not sleeping on Boise or Arizona State.
So Penn State's winning? No, I'm just saying we're going to get into games. Can we talk about that game real quick? Because I did bet Penn State, and it was based on the fact that that was the least big game of all time, and that's why James Frankel was going to dominate.
Oh, yeah, that wasn't a big game at all. Even waking up, it didn't even feel like a big game.
Kevin Jennings, the minute he started throwing those picks, you're just like, yeah, what is going on? Yeah, what was like even like waking up it didn't even feel like that's of you kevin jennings got the minute he started throwing those pics you're just like yeah what is going on yeah what was the mood like in the stadium did it have big game feel oh yeah it looked awesome was popping all of my buddies were there my brother his wife were there i i heard unbelievable things from within the stadium but but that's also like i'm happy i'm happy that we got that the people that were at that game that go to a bunch of games every year got a college football playoff yeah and got to be there for it yeah but when when what is his name jennings yeah i just said ken jennings yeah ken jennings like he did the thing where he put it he did the me where he put his hands over his ears, and then they had to call a timeout, and then he immediately threw the pick six to Tony Rojas, and it was like there's no way they were ever going to win that game. Penn State didn't even play well.
They did not play their best game at all, and they just smoked them. How about the big game environment inside the horseshoe? Pre-game, the band on the field.

Yeah.

What instrument was that lady playing where she just was like hyperventilating and crying?

She's probably a senior going out.

That was, I felt something.

I was like, this means more.

Yeah.

Also very funny where Penn State put SMU's band.

Oh, all the way up top.

It couldn't have been a worse section in the entire stadium. Yeah.
So, Hank, are you going to give the next round of college football a shot? Yeah. I mean, I'm going to give them a shot.
There's a lot left to be desired. We lucked into a real Rose Bowl matchup.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's pretty cool. Yeah.
The Rose Bowl is going to be awesome. And then you have Notre Dame and Georgia playing right after.
Yeah. And again, even if these games aren't close, I don't want to say it.
That's sports. You can't.
That's the beauty of sports. You don't know what's going to happen.
You can't just say every time there's a blowout being like, everything's broken, fix it. Do you remember when they went to the 14 playoff? I remember sitting and watching on New Year's Eve.
That sucked. Alabama versus Washington.
Yeah, it was versus Washington or was it Michigan State? There was a Michigan State one too where they didn't score any points and it was brutal. And then it slowly got better over years, but this is just a new system that they'll slowly figure out.
And I get it. There's probably only five teams realistically every year that could win a college football national championship.
I still like having more teams involved, and you can have the chance of something special happening in a single elimination tournament. There probably will never be a Cinderella to win it all, but I never expected that.
I mean, if you have teams that are loaded at the top with five-star players, and then you get SMU going into Penn State, that's always going to happen. Yeah.
But if you're SMU, at least you have that one week to be like, you know what? What if? Yeah. We could win the entire thing.
And the game does mean something, too. If to it if we keep playing this i don't know 25 years there will be a 12 that beats a 5 like it will happen because that's just football and that's sports and it's weird like that we used to have a computer pick the winner yeah there would be a computer and be like okay i'm going to spit out a bunch of numbers oh we have co-national champions this year yeah two teams would play in separate bowl games and have a chance to win a national championship.
Yeah. Oh, you beat them.
And then your team could win their bowl game, and then the computer doesn't pick you, and then you get to claim a national championship that nobody else will respect for the rest of eternity. Yeah, we're doing better.
Which actually kind of rocks. Okay, should we do who's back of the week? Wrap it up.
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I think it's just in tournament play. I'm sure he probably has a bunch otherwise.
I think he said it was his first. Even better.
Yeah. Hit a hole-in-one.
That's what they always say. Him and Tiger lost in the playoff.
So they almost won the whole thing. Yeah, fuck Bernard Longer.
Why, because he's old? Well, apparently the guy's coming back from an Achilles injury and he's hitting from the seniors' tees. That was crazy.
67 years old. He gets an additional 120 yards on every drive.
Whose side are you on? I mean, he's 67 years old. So then don't play golf in a tournament like this.
He literally walked like 100 yards up to hit his tee shot.

Senior tees.

It was crazy.

They were in front of that.

He was teeing off in front of amateurs.

Yes.

See, me personally, I'd have too much pride to do that.

Same.

I wouldn't hit from those tees.

Same.

Maybe I'd go one ahead.

I'd hit from the blues.

Also, he's won the tournament like seven times in a row.

Enough, dude.

Yeah, well, because he's got a system.

Right.

This guy's a hustler.

But, yeah, Charlie Woods, sick hole in one.

You got it?

You thinking about it?

No, I was just – his press conference afterwards was funny when he was like,

yeah, you know, I thought I'd seen my dad's best,

but he actually played really well today.

Yeah, he played great.

Charlie said that? Yeah, you could tell Tiger was like, yeah, it used to be good. I can be good.
I have the ability to be a good golfer. And Charlie almost nailed that putt, too, on 18.
I wanted it in so bad. We love Charlie Woods.
He's our guy. You got it stolen away from him.
Yeah. A moment taken away.
You just can't feel good if you're Bernard Longer and you're hitting from the...

His son's like 35.

Yeah, his son's like...

Yeah.

Charlie's 16 years old.

And this guy, his son was in college like 10 years ago.

He's like a doctor.

Yeah, I didn't like that.

Yeah, it's bullshit.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

PFT?

I was going to say Charlie Woods too, but I'll just say people talking about Ricky Henderson. Yeah.
Because he passed away, and it's sad because Ricky Henderson was such an awesome, awesome baseball player to watch. All his base stealing records are just insane.
They're the stats that you can look up and be like, oh, it takes somebody like 30 years stealing 70 bases a year to do what he did. And he played until he was old, but he was still really, really fast, and he was great to watch.
Best leadoff hitter of all time. Yeah.
But I'm just glad that people are talking about Ricky Henderson. Also the stories, whether it be he framed his million-dollar signing bonus check when he was a rookie, or the famous John Ulruod story where he he went up to john olrood and was like hey we we used to have a guy like uh who used to wear the helmet at first base when i was on the mets and john olrood was like yeah dude that was me we were teammates ricky yeah so he was the best it's sad because he was what 65 years? Yeah.
And he also was one of the only guys who I feel like everyone was okay with him doing first person. Yeah.
He just would say, Ricky thinks this, and be like, yeah, that's cool. You're Ricky Henderson.
He was a flashiest dude ever, but it matched up with watching him play. Yeah.
So, yeah, you can get away with anything that you want, Ricky. He was born on Christmas.
That's cool. Yeah, so flashy from day one.
Yeah. Yeah, a player could steal 60 bases a year for 22 straight years, and Ricky Henderson would still have more stolen bases.
Did he invent actually taking the base? Like when he had a milestone stolen base where he'd just take it out of the ground? I don't know. This is my base now.
The best tweet some baseball writer said is like,

Ricky Henderson was actually the first guy to pimp and showboat home runs,

but he would do it right in the pitcher's face,

and the pitcher knew they couldn't bean him the next time he was up because if they beamed him, he'd be on third base in two pitches.

Yeah.

Like, you couldn't put him on base intentionally. So yeah.
What's that one? Ricky Anderson trying to find a seat on the team bus. Teammate, tell one of them to move.
You got tenure. Ricky, tenure? Nah, Ricky's been in the league 15 years.
Yeah. I don't even know if half of these are true but they're funny and he feels like he was just a legendary legendary guy yeah that was good i had i had as my who's back as well um i don't know what my who's back would be then oh well oh i have one uh buy mike florio's book well actually you don't have to it's free on amazon on christmas day uh and christmas eve Mike Florio, our good friend.
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Yeah. So he's the best uh he'll always be number one

florio yeah number one florio for sure um do we have anything else boys i mean we're not gonna do a show wednesday we're gonna do friday our regular show we'll do zoom on friday and zoom on monday and then we'll be back together the following friday um max we good yeah i feel i feel okay yeah yeah. Yeah.
One hour, fourth episode of PMT Doc Thursday. There was one moment where you were screaming it.
I think you were screaming a PFT. It's okay.
It happens. I love it.
I love it. Yeah.
For this episode? Yeah, I love it. I think it's the best.
Because you're... Listen, we all have our passion.
I got mad at you when you pulled up that fucking meme. Yeah, I know that's that was payback, but that's but we should we should be OK with getting mad at each other.
That's what. Yeah, that's what makes this show great.
Right. We keep it in between the white lines.
Yeah. Except memes.
He hates us outside the way. That's actually he carries everything with him afterwards.
It is funny. Whenever I see whenever I see anybody out in public, pretty much the only thing that they say is, fuck Hank.
That's me. They think that I genuinely hate Hank.
Yeah. They're like, I fucking hate Hank, too.
It is funny when people think that. It's like, yeah, we spend 60 hours a week together.
Yeah. We genuinely love each other.
If you know Hank, you know he's not about the drama. It's like, yeah, we spend like 60 hours a week together.
Yeah.

We genuinely love each other.

If you know Hank, you know he's not about the drama.

It's also like.

Literally.

I don't.

He's trying to exist.

I don't know.

Do you think there are friends.

That's probably when you're in Philly.

Do you think there are friends out there that like root for each other's teams to do well if they have different teams?

That's a very.

I root for your guys' teams. No, you don't.
Shut the fuck up. No, you don't.
You literally bet against us to make the playoffs. Like, genuinely root for them? Like, there'll be times where I'll root, I'll like...
You liar? I bet them won the Super Bowl, too. There'll be times where, outside of bets, outside of bets, but there'll be times when I'll root for your guys' team, but.
But genuinely be like, I want my friends' teams to fucking rock. That's crazy.
Yeah, you want your friends to be just as miserable as you are. Right.
I just said my goal for the NBA season. He's still laughing his face.
Right. Right.
I want both of you guys to have maximum pain in the playoffs That's mean It's the truth I actually would like PFT to win one game That's mean, Big Cat I would like PFT to win one game You, Max Actually, no, I'd like Max to go to the Super Bowl That would be fun It'd be great for the show Okay, so would you actually be upset if the Commanders went to the Super Bowl? If they won the Super Bowl, I'd be like, this is fucking bullshit. Yeah.
Absolutely. But if you won one game, I'd be happy for you.
Genuinely happy for you for one game. That would be cool.
What if I beat Max? That would be very cool. But he would like that more for my pain than your ass.
Correct. No shit.
Correct. Yeah.
Yeah, so that actually would... I don't know, because it would be kind of wasting...
I'd rather you win... If you played the Packers, I'd be fucking...
I know that's not possible, but that would be incredible. I'd be rooting very hard for you.
Okay, so what about this scenario? The Packers play the Eagles in the first round. That's on the table.
I'm rooting for Max hard. Hard.
That would be the meanest thing the Packers could do to you

is take the joy out of enjoying an Eagles loss.

I would be more heartbroken than Max.

Yeah.

I think I would.

Because I wouldn't be able to enjoy your loss.

The Packers would rob my joy.

They'd steal all the joy.

They would rob my joy of your loss from me think about that yeah yes I mean paint the picture again real quick of is it game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals what is it maybe yeah like I don't know there's 10 seconds left. I don't know.
I just want to see Hank upset. He's never upset, ever.
He almost died the other week. No, but that's different upset.
But I'm pretty sure that we weren't even together during that. I don't know.
Actually, no. He was pretty upset after losing to the Heat.
I was thinking that was Memorial Day, but that was Memorial Day when they won. He was pretty upset when they lost the Heat.
I'm just a chill, happy guy. I'm sorry that upsets you.
The chillest, happiest guy. All right.
Merry Christmas, everyone. Well, no, we'll be back before New Year.
Yep. Happy Hanukkah.
Happy Kwanzaa. Happy everything.
Oh, that kid rocks. There's nothing like a 12-year-old fat kid in a jersey.
He was just going nuts for the game. This is great podcasting.
All right. Numbers.
11. Three.

33.

89.

21.

80.

80?

80?

I saw it on the TV.

I think 80 might hit.

It's meme said it, so no.

Can I change my number?

What did meme say? Can I change my number? What did meme say?

Can I change my number?

Yeah.

81.

I'll take three.

Okay.

Fuck.

What is it?

89.

Oh!

Is that you?

You got it?

Yep.

Fuck.

All right.

Let's go.

Wait.

Wait. That better be it.
Oh, this would be great. Nope.
68. Oh, you can't say that.
Let's go. Oh, man.
Sorry. That's bullshit.
Sorry. I didn't do that.
That's your job. You have one job.
I understand, but that's a... Have you ever guessed it by yourself, PFC? Look at PFT.
Look at... Yeah, but that's bullshit.
That's bullshit. That's your job.
What a great lot of men. That's bullshit.
It's 68. What's it called? Christmas? I'm sorry.
I apologize, PFT. It's been a long day.
What's it called? That's my bad. I'm not broken up by it because I've gotten it before.
I fucked up. Yeah, you have.
Yes, he has. Yes, he's gotten it.
He has gotten it. I got it before.
He's won. And also, the Panthers beat the Eagles today, so it's a good day.
That's true.

They did.

Yeah.

Max, congrats.

You won the National Championship in volleyball.

All right, we're done with this podcast.

In volleyball.

Oh, Penn State.

Congrats.

Congrats.

Good job, Max.

I didn't go to Penn State.

I'm a fan of their football team.

Love you guys. Thank you.
Thank you.