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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take. It is week 15 in the NFL.
We've got a lot of games to talk about. Bills Lions.
Bills, maybe the best team in the NFL. Eagles, Statement win.
Chiefs going to 13-1.

Speaker 1 PFTU surviving in the dome.

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The crown is yours. Today is Monday, December 16th, week 15.

Speaker 1 What? What?

Speaker 1 Not gonna get him. Some spirit.

Speaker 1 We started Nashville where running back Chase Antonio Brown got to CTE. See the end zone as the Bengals were fighting for their playoff hopes.

Speaker 1 The Hennessy Titans came out hot and looked to be in it until Spill Levis left a brown stain in his pants, throwing three picks. But what's that?

Speaker 2 What's that?

Speaker 1 Is that Mason Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeers music? Oh my god, it is. Who comes in relief to save the season and he threw a pick.
The Bengals stay alive thanks to Sam I.

Speaker 1 Am Hubbard saying, I do like touchdown passes, Sam I.M. Bengals 37, Titans 27.

Speaker 3 Over to New York where Rashad Master Bateman shot out a couple seeds and permanently ended the Giants season.

Speaker 3 There's been a lot of talk about dangerous flying objects in New Jersey, as both Tim Boyle and Tommy DeVito attempted passes on Sunday, furthering concerns residents of the Garden State.

Speaker 1 LaMartha Stewart Jackson might be getting older, but that butt don't quit, as he did unspeakable things to the New York Stock Exchange Giants on the way to a blowout. Ravens, 35, the G-men, 14.

Speaker 1 In Carolina, where Cowboys ride receiver Cree Dee Lamb couldn't be be stapped. While on the other side of the line, Micah Parsons saying, my sack for the Bryce.

Speaker 1 Absolutely destroying the tiny young, making him regret his pro choice.

Speaker 1 The lone highlight for Carolina came when the offense got a huge bump from Jalen Coker to end the first half, but they were only able to return to the bathroom/slash end zone one more time in the second half.

Speaker 1 Cowboys 30, Panthers 14.

Speaker 1 And we head down to Florida where Memes is there for the Jets Jaguars tilt.

Speaker 2 In Florida, where Aaron Rodgers committed several HIPAA violations against the Vaxonville Jabawars, throwing for three touchdowns. Devontae Diggs

Speaker 2 Adams at the half said, give me the ball or I will dust your ass, Biach.

Speaker 1 Brian Rob Thompson said, baby, baby, it's 1 p.m. I must be lonely.

Speaker 2 In the end zone with the Jaguars only touchdowns. The end zone was calling for Trevor

Speaker 2 Etienne to come home with the help from the wizard of ass, Doug Peterson, but fell short. Jets 32, Jaguars 25.

Speaker 3 Thank you, memes. We go to Tampa, where Mike Elangelo Evans is experiencing a renaissance as he painted a masterpiece with 159 yards.

Speaker 3 And the Bucs had a nice little package featuring Levante's statue of David and a touching tribute to Max Delente. Justin Hertbert suffered another ankle injury after taking way too many shots.

Speaker 3 Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin-McConkey's offensive efforts were stalling as the Chargers' offense continues to lack real and Russian threats.

Speaker 3 Los Angeles, Laker Mayfield, and LeBronte David are back from their unexplained absence from earlier this season, leaving Judge Judy saying, he didn't just beat us, did he?

Speaker 1 Bucks, 40.

Speaker 3 Chargers, 17.

Speaker 1 We head out west where Hank is out there for the Cardinals and Patriots game.

Speaker 1 In Arizona in the first quarter, Rakhyler Murray said, it gets to a point, dude, after Craig Craig Lou Dorsch fumbled the ball into the end zone, but it was recovered by Jonah Hill Williams for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 And he said, I'll tell you what, I'm never eating at a Benny Hanna again. I don't care whose birthday it is.
Drake K.

Speaker 1 Rowling May was a sorcerer with the stone all day, throwing for a TD to Demario Douglas Dimodome, owner of the Dimsdale Dimodome, and running for another in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 But it wasn't enough to take down the Cardinals and James Sean Connery, who said, winners go home and fuck the prom queen after stealing the victory with two fourth quarter scores.

Speaker 1 Cardinals win 30-17. Over to Pennsylvania where Max Delente, who's on the IR,

Speaker 1 was at the game. We head over to Philadelphia where Kenneth 2 Chainswell had everyone saying, oh, yeah, follower alert.
Lil Steelers a bitch and are now on fraud alert.

Speaker 1 TJ Squat had the weight of the whole team on his back, as seemingly he was the only Steeler to show up to Philly today.

Speaker 1 Jalen Skirtskirtz played like an absolute savage today and had all the haters in Philly eating their words. Eagles 27, Steelers 30.

Speaker 3 We go over to Detroit where Josh Ray Allen was getting there, switching back and forth between throwing and passing touchdowns on the Lions D Sunday.

Speaker 3 Dan John Skipper ran furiously towards the white line, but claimed it was the first time he tried it as he scored a touchdown in the first half.

Speaker 3 Sean McDermatologist was able to help James Cook with his hair loss as the Buffalo Bills Clintons pulled out their victory cigar against the Detroit Leonskis and their snazzy blue dress.

Speaker 1 Bills 48, the Lions 42.

Speaker 1 Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston, Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see.

Speaker 1 It's Carson Winston. He's locked up the Carson since he burned down Washington, D.C.

Speaker 1 Come on, Mahomes. You've got some strong

Speaker 1 bones.

Speaker 1 The Sky Cam looks just like the LEN

Speaker 1 drones. Chiefs, 21, Browns, 7, and that is the fastest two minutes for week 15.

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Speaker 1 Okay, week 15 in the books. Boys, we had a lot of football.
Got a lot of football to talk about. Early was tough.
There was a moment early

Speaker 1 where we were watching Jakener, Spencer Rattler, Tim Boyle, Tommy DeVito, DTR. Who am I missing? Mac Jones.
Mac Jones, Cooper Rush.

Speaker 1 It got ugly for a little bit there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Carson Wentz.

Speaker 1 Mason Rudolph, Will Levis. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was ugly for a little bit there, but we got some great games in the afternoon, but we're going to recap them all, and we'll start with

Speaker 1 PFTU surviving the dome, Commanders 20, Saints 19. Yeah.
Holy shit.

Speaker 1 You almost got screwed with the clock, but also if Darren Rizzi had maybe started Spencer Rattler instead of Jakeer, who I don't think I've ever seen a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Like, we watch all types of quarterbacks. Jay Kaner, it actually looks like a dangerous for him to be out there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he looks like an acrobat back there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 He wearing the black tights. It looked like he was wearing Lululemon athletic pants instead of football pants.

Speaker 2 The pictures of Jake Hayner, I was nervous about it because I could not lose to Jake Haner. That's a loss that will follow you around.
But Hayner's going to hate, I guess, because

Speaker 2 he was not good. No, he was bad.
He was not good. And then Spencer Attler got in and looked pretty decent, actually.

Speaker 2 I thought that Jaden played pretty well. He missed a couple wide-open bombs to Terry McLaurin by like a total of, probably a total of eight inches away from three more touchdown passes.
Yeah, Terry.

Speaker 2 So we had our chances, missed some of the chances. Defense played good enough.

Speaker 2 At the end, when they got the ball down to like the two-yard line and the clock just stopped with nine seconds left, I was screaming. I was going nuts.
I don't know how that happens. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I guess it's in the dome. It was crazy.
It was the dome clock operator. So after the game, Sean Hockey Lee was like, yeah, that shouldn't have happened.
Our bad. Sorry about that.

Speaker 1 It almost cost you the game.

Speaker 2 Almost cost us the game. If you had the commanders minus seven, you should be eligible eligible to sue Roger Goodell.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I agree. You should demand restitution from him for that because that was dirty what happened at the end of that game.

Speaker 2 But Darren Rizzy's field goal defense remains excellent.

Speaker 2 So we missed a field goal at the very end from like 50-some yards, and we missed a field goal at the end of the third quarter that didn't count.

Speaker 2 And because I guess the clock had expired before it was snapped. So then he got to kick it again at the start of the fourth corner.
Rizzi was not happy about that.

Speaker 2 He said, I've coached kickers for 30 years, and I can tell you if they get a practice shot, they're going to make the second one more often than not. So listen, not going to apologize for a win.

Speaker 2 It's hard to win on the road in this league.

Speaker 1 That was a game. It was the weirdest game because with Jakener in, it was never in doubt.
And it was like, the commanders are going to cakewalk to this one. It's easy.

Speaker 1 And then they put in Spencer Rattler, and there was, you know, seven games going on, so you kind of lose track. And then you look up and you're like, oh, shit, the commanders are in one right now.

Speaker 1 Yes. And you can't lose this game.

Speaker 2 So it was awesome to see Lattimore out there. Because Marshawn Lattimore played for the first time against his old team, the Saints.
They didn't throw at him a single time. Smart.

Speaker 2 No catches, no yards, no targets.

Speaker 1 That also might be because of the quarterbacks playing.

Speaker 2 Probably also because of the quarterback. But they threw to other guys.
Yeah. They just didn't target him at all.
Mike Sanders still, I love that dude. He's come on strong.

Speaker 1 I'm a little bit

Speaker 2 apprehensive about the Eagles next week. The Commanders.

Speaker 2 They're a good team, but I don't think that

Speaker 2 they're not going to win a playoff game if they keep playing like this. Yeah.
So listen, they're 9-5. The Commanders are not

Speaker 2 for the first time since 1992.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 That's pretty crazy. So

Speaker 1 I'm happy.

Speaker 2 I could have dealt with a little bit less stress today, but overall, I did find myself saying, though, like right after the game, I started doing the playoff machine thing.

Speaker 2 There's a possibility we get the sixth seed.

Speaker 1 And avoid the Eagles. The Eagles are banged up, though.

Speaker 2 I'm going to need you to beat the Packers week 18.

Speaker 1 Again,

Speaker 1 you keep saying that. It's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 That's the key to all this. It's not going to happen.
That's the key to all this.

Speaker 1 It ain't going to happen. Yeah.

Speaker 2 A win is a win.

Speaker 1 Wait, that's you guys winning out and

Speaker 1 the Bears beating the Packers? Yeah. No.

Speaker 1 You got to move on from something else.

Speaker 1 You got to move on to something else. That's just not going to happen.
Don't waste any energy on that.

Speaker 2 What if you guys win tomorrow?

Speaker 1 We're not going to win tomorrow. We're not going to win another game.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it was crazy because

Speaker 1 I'm sure you felt the same way where it was like, wait, what's happening right right now? Why is this a game?

Speaker 1 How is this possibly a game right now?

Speaker 2 A few things. Like, again, Terry McLaurin could have had three more touchdown catches.
Yeah, there was a few more. They were just like very, very slight overthrows.

Speaker 2 The big issue for the Commanders, I don't think we'll stick around, and that's like the running game sucked today, with the exception of Jaden just tucking it and going 20 yards whenever it felt like it.

Speaker 2 But our center was out, and we couldn't block anybody, so we couldn't get Brian Robinson to run game going. So hopefully when he gets back, I'm still,

Speaker 2 I feel like this could be an inbound shit pumping because I thought we were going to wamp the Saints. Yeah.
And it was not a womp.

Speaker 1 It was a womp until Spencer Rattler showed up.

Speaker 2 And again, I don't know what the hell Rizzy thought he was going to get a spark with Jake.

Speaker 1 Also, did you see Rizzy like caressing the back of Jakeer's head? That doesn't really help Jake.

Speaker 2 I did that to Blake this morning. That same move, like scratch on the back of the head.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was weird.

Speaker 2 Who's a good quarterback?

Speaker 1 I didn't really understand that. But yeah,

Speaker 1 listen,

Speaker 1 hey, next week, anything, anyone can win any game. Yeah.
It's at home. Listen, Kevins are banged up.
Max has got one foot.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Max is banged up. But we can get to that later.
I think that the foot thing might be a good thing for Max. Really? I think it might be good vibes.
Like, everyone's banged up.

Speaker 2 Like you said, Max absolutely gritting out a foot injury to do a podcast. True.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 your win today officially eliminated the Bears. Oh, sorry.
So that's okay.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 they really need to change in the hunt and just be like, teams teams that are not eliminated, but everyone knows they're eliminated, just eliminate them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, come on.

Speaker 1 Just be like, hey,

Speaker 1 they're eliminated. Yeah.
Like, stop fucking around. This is stupid.

Speaker 1 Spencer Rattler, maybe the future. I don't know.
I mean, probably not.

Speaker 2 I would, without doubt, start him next week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, definitely. I don't understand how you get to Jakeer.
No. Like, I don't know how that decision took place when watching him.
It seriously, it felt like a danger to him.

Speaker 1 When he got sacked, he looked so much smaller than everyone else. And And you're like, this is a problem.
He's going to be in bodily harm every time he takes a snap.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he was like a crash test on me. His ankles were like ending up over his head because he got sacked somehow.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, okay.

Speaker 1 Good win, needed that win. What's the playoff percentage at?

Speaker 1 Max, what did you make that face for? Not a good win? I mean, that wasn't a good win.

Speaker 1 Everyone had to win. Had to win that game, did win that game.
How about that? Had to win that game, did win that game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm not going to apologize, Max.

Speaker 1 What's What's the commanders' chance of getting in? 82%?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, if they had lost that game, it would have been very, very bad.

Speaker 2 But I don't know if I don't know if that counts this week because it says right there, it's got the New Orleans Saints symbol. No, it does.

Speaker 1 It counts this week. Okay.
Okay. 82% is pretty fucking good.

Speaker 2 82% is good. I'm happy.
Listen, this season was supposed to be the season before the season.

Speaker 1 Who do you guys have after the Eagles?

Speaker 2 We got the Eagles and the Falcons and the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Right. And the Rams have the Jets, I believe.
Yeah. Who they could be hot.
Oh, Memes is smiling again. All it took was one Jets win for Memes to be like.
He put Aaron Rodgers' head back on his head.

Speaker 1 He just keeps doing AI of me on different famous

Speaker 2 wheelchair people.

Speaker 1 Like who, Stevie Hawking? He just face swapped me and Sister Jean.

Speaker 1 That's good.

Speaker 2 I like that. If you could forward that to the group chat, Memes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would be nice. I would like to see all those.
All right, so just hold off the Rams, PFT. I need you to hold off the Rams.

Speaker 2 I'm doing everything that I can to hold off the Rams.

Speaker 1 Rams have Jets, Cardinals, Seahawks.

Speaker 2 It's going to be tough. Listen, I'm excited.
I'm happy. This is awesome for me.

Speaker 1 And also, we might have Seahawks with Gino.

Speaker 1 We just watched that. He might be in trouble.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he might be in trouble. Yeah.
Significant trouble. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, you should be happy.

Speaker 2 I'm very happy, and I'm not going to apologize for winning. I'm enjoying this season.
It's been great.

Speaker 1 You needed that win. You got that win.
Yep. That's all that matters.
All right. Next up.

Speaker 1 Chiefs 21, Browns 7. Chiefs finally win a game easily.

Speaker 1 The big story, though, is: well, there's two big stories. Patrick Mahomes' high ankle sprain.
Do we believe it? Do we think it matters?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like this happens to him once a year and he ends up being totally fine. And everyone's like, oh man, he's banged up, but he'll be fine.

Speaker 1 So do we believe it? I think.

Speaker 2 No, I don't believe it. Yeah.
He has the ability to just go back and like hover over a medical device kit like in a video game for a little bit and he just recharges.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, even if he misses a game,

Speaker 1 they're 13 and one. They're two games up on the buy.
So like they could afford

Speaker 1 The one bad thing for him is they play Saturday and Wednesday. So, that's not exactly an easy schedule if you have a high ankle sprain.

Speaker 1 But the Chiefs could realistically sit him for a game, let him get healthy, and then win the last two games and still get the one seed.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the NFL is not going to let Patrick Mahomes sit out on Christmas.

Speaker 1 No, no, absolutely not. It happened in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Carno was like, he's going to be here for the Super Bowl, and he went in halftime, got the super steroids, and was fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, didn't it happen in the playoff game against the

Speaker 1 Bats as well?

Speaker 4 Whichever, there was one where it was like, it looks bad. Yeah.
It's really bad. Went to locker room, he was fine.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
So, who do they have on Christmas Day again?

Speaker 1 They have the Steelers. They play the Texans on Saturday and the Steelers on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 There's 0% chance that Carson Wentz, he'll be the Wentz who stole Christmas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they cannot let us have Carson Wentz on Christmas. But the bigger story is

Speaker 1 it might be over for Jameis. In Cleveland.

Speaker 2 We needed something from him today.

Speaker 1 In Cleveland.

Speaker 2 We needed to see him play against the Bengals defense.

Speaker 1 In Cleveland is what we're saying. Not over forever, but he had three picks.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs' defense was insane today.

Speaker 1 They had

Speaker 1 six turnovers. They had a bunch of sacks.
They were also the third worst team in terms of takeaways going into this game. So they had 10 going into the game.
They got six just today.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 when you get benched for DTR,

Speaker 1 it's bad.

Speaker 1 I'll say this: if you watch this game, the Chiefs' defensive line was on fire, and Jameis had no time. So no one would have been able to handle that.

Speaker 2 Also, he continues to be delivered from pick sixes.

Speaker 2 I think two of his interceptions were thrown into the opponent's end zone, which is as far away from a pick six as you can get. Yep.
So he's improving. You know what?

Speaker 2 I'm okay with Jameis just like traveling the United States playing for various teams. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, like every fan base should be so lucky to have an experience like Jameis Winston for a season as a bridge bridge quarterback.

Speaker 1 I don't know what's going to happen now.

Speaker 1 Getting benched for DTR is bad. Maybe it was just we need to see a different look in this game.
Maybe.

Speaker 2 There was also one of the interceptions, I think, was Trent McDuffie's. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He said after the game that he saw Jameis throw it to his side of the field on the video board during the play, so he turned his head around. So he's cheating.
So he's cheating.

Speaker 2 So you can see it also on the replay of it from the end zone angle. He's trailing his guy into the end zone.

Speaker 2 He looks up at the video board in the end zone, and then he turns his head around to intercept. That's cheating.
That's cheating. You shouldn't be allowed to do that.

Speaker 1 That shouldn't count as a pick against Jameis.

Speaker 2 No, it shouldn't. That's a pick against the Jumbotron.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Browns are just a bummer to watch. And

Speaker 1 this is so Chiefs that they finally had a game where it was like never a worry.

Speaker 1 They still didn't look like incredible because Patrick Mahomes is under fire.

Speaker 1 Their offensive line's a problem. But they have...
No, no problems taking care of the Browns. They're 13-1.

Speaker 1 And then they're like, hey, let's just throw in a Patrick Mahomes ankle injury just so that we can get the haters and doubters back out.

Speaker 2 And then after the game was over, to make matters worse for Browns fans, they leaked a story that Deshaun Watson might come back and compete to be the starting quarterback next year. Why?

Speaker 2 They're not closing the door on Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 1 Why? What was his injury? Achilles?

Speaker 2 He should never be in a room with a door closed. Yeah, it was Achilles.

Speaker 1 I'm just bummed about Jameis.

Speaker 1 I'm really bummed about Jameis. Where does he go? Memes wants him on the Jets.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he wants him as a bridge quarterback who wins the Super Bowl on on the Jets.

Speaker 1 That's actually a really, that's the perfect bridge quarterback.

Speaker 2 All right, so let's find a landing home for Jameis next season. Maybe the Saints.
Go back to New Orleans.

Speaker 1 Saints would be good. I actually wouldn't hate him on the Seahawks as Geno's back up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would be fun. He should actually, you know where he should go? He should go to the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 If Jameis was on the Dolphins this year, they wouldn't have lost all the games that Tua was out for.

Speaker 2 That's true.

Speaker 1 And they'd still be alive.

Speaker 2 And he would take shots. He would try to find Tyreek.

Speaker 1 Right. He wouldn't do this stupid dump-off offense that they showed us today.
Yeah. Chiefs.
Chiefs?

Speaker 2 Get him a ring?

Speaker 1 That would be great. I'd be fine with Jameis ring chasing.
Uh-huh. I have a question.
Yeah. Eagles.

Speaker 1 Do you guys get nervous about him going to a team that you can't rhyme the Jameis song with? Oh, we'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 We can figure it out. Because I get worried.

Speaker 1 That's something that gets you worried? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what I think of. I mean, it's down in Cuyahoga now, so it's like you can think of something.
I know, that was a good one. It would just find a city near wherever he's playing.

Speaker 1 Just a random city? I get nervous of him like going to the Packers because that would suck.

Speaker 2 Yeah, going to a place where he couldn't root for him. Yeah.
That's what I would hate.

Speaker 1 That would really suck. Yeah, if you went to the Eagles, that would suck.
Or he went to the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 That would be bad.

Speaker 1 It's just bad. It's a bad, it's a bummer.

Speaker 1 And there's something about the Browns, too, like, it's extra bummer because late season Browns games, the weather just is so gross. Yeah.
And the game looks disgusting.

Speaker 2 If he went to the Cowboys, that'd be fun for a little bit because you could just, I would just lean into like bench Dak Prescott. Right.

Speaker 1 Right, James. QB controversy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Jameis is so much better. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what we're going to do.
I don't know what it feels like a crisis, though. Mahomes limping off.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I mean, if it's a high ankle sprain for real, that's not.

Speaker 1 He does do these crazy. Have you seen his workouts where he's like,

Speaker 1 he does the off-season workouts where he's just twisting himself constantly?

Speaker 1 I feel like that does keep him like very healthy routinely, but high ankle sprain for two games, three games in 10 days, is not exactly what you want if you're the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 No, and also for the Browns. It was just a bummer day for the Browns because Nick Chubb out for the season

Speaker 2 broke his foot.

Speaker 1 And that might be, I don't want to say his career, but it definitely. How old is Nick Chubb?

Speaker 2 It just feels. I don't think he's that old, but yeah, it seems like him and he's had so many injuries.

Speaker 1 He's going to be 29 in a week. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I got a question for you. Bummer.
Where was Taylor Swift today?

Speaker 1 Is she not at the game?

Speaker 2 Does she hate Cleveland? Because my thought was the two biggest stars in the world both refused to go to Cleveland. Taylor Swift, Marlin's Man.
That's the only place that Marlin's Man won't go.

Speaker 2 That's true.

Speaker 1 You know that.

Speaker 2 What is it about Cleveland? I thought she was keeping all the stars out.

Speaker 1 I thought she was in Cleveland. Dante DeDan said that he was trying to get her to go to John Boy in Cleveland this weekend.
Was he just anticipating that galaxy? Well, I guess it was her birthday.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 1 what?

Speaker 4 What? I just, that's funny that he was trying to get her to go to

Speaker 1 John Boya. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Save a table for her. Yeah, I mean, he was,

Speaker 1 you got a dream.

Speaker 4 It's a great place to have a birthday. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I thought she was there, but maybe she wasn't.

Speaker 2 She didn't go to the game. Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 Isn't he from Cleveland?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Travis was from Cleveland, so that was like, it was like a big deal deal that it was you know maybe his last game in cleveland where was marlinsman today where was marlin's was he with taylor swift that was the big question is where was marlinsman yeah yeah i wonder if official word from stadium security is that taylor swift is not attending today's game interesting

Speaker 1 interesting but she was in cleveland according to my sources dante the donkey this weekend

Speaker 1 she decided not to go to that really just tell me trying to get you to help no no he just tweeted i just saw him tweet it i think he probably thought that she since the Chiefs were in town, she might be there.

Speaker 1 And it was her birthday. So he was like, yeah, it's her birthday dinner, and then we're going to try to get her to go to John Boy.
I was like, fuck, let's do it.

Speaker 1 Let me find the tweet. I listen, you're laughing, but hey, he's a businessman.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 That would be unbelievable if that had happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would have been incredible. It would have popped off.

Speaker 1 He might have deleted the tweet. Shit.
Well, he's going to be mad at you, Hank, for laughing at this.

Speaker 4 I love Dante. I love John Boy.

Speaker 1 John Boy's a great bar. Also, great ratio for any guys out there.
Not anymore. But

Speaker 4 thinking Taylor Sword is going to go to John Boy for her birthday is crazy.

Speaker 1 Why not? You're in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 Yeah, where else are you going to go? It's true. It's true.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Next game.

Speaker 1 Bengals 37. Titans 27.

Speaker 1 Bengals still alive.

Speaker 1 The Bengals.

Speaker 2 It could happen.

Speaker 2 It could happen.

Speaker 2 There is a path for the Bengals now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's unfortunately at the expense of the Chargers, which I will get to, but I'm going to admit the Chargers are not going to win the Super Bowl or maybe even get to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 So look at the Broncos schedule, though. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It might be more at the expense of the Broncos. Okay.
Because the Broncos, they do play the Chargers next week, I think.

Speaker 1 And then they play the Bengals, right?

Speaker 2 And they play the Bengals, and I think they play the Chiefs, too.

Speaker 1 Right. Who they might, the Chiefs will most likely have everything wrapped up, so they probably won't play anyone.
Yeah. But still.

Speaker 1 It could happen. It could happen.
The Bengals. This a game where,

Speaker 1 like at the beginning of the game, I was like, what the fuck is going on? They're down 14-7,

Speaker 1 and Joe Burrow's throwing a pick, and everything looks weird, and then it's like, oh, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, it's Will Levis versus Joe Burrow, and he'll just throw some interceptions your way, Bengals, and you'll be fine.

Speaker 1 The Bengals even had a, we had two Deshaun Jackson moments today, one, which we'll talk about later, that was very significant. But the Bengals, like,

Speaker 1 they had no problem winning this game, even though they started as slow as you could start.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this one was an unintentional, unintentional Deshaun Jackson. He was just kind of just

Speaker 2 excited at the one-yard line. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Freaked out.

Speaker 2 I thought the better defensive player running with the ball in this game was Tevondre Sweat. Oh, yeah.
So, our guy Stad Hole posted this. I think it's true.

Speaker 2 That's the heaviest player to ever run with a football in NFL history.

Speaker 1 He sent me that, too. And Ted Washington, I feel like, was heavier.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 Tavondre Sweat is 366 pounds.

Speaker 1 He might be, yeah.

Speaker 2 And I'll tell you what, he's faster than I am.

Speaker 1 The stiff arm he threw on Alex Kappa was ferocious. Yeah.
Ferocious. And he was, I love when a big guy picks up the ball and he's like, I may never get this again.
I'm going to the house.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he made the most.

Speaker 1 And he was maybe 60 yards away from getting to the house, but he was trying to go to the house.

Speaker 2 So the league has an abundance of sweat on defense. Yeah.
They got Montez, Tavandre, and Josh Sweat on defense. This is probably the sweatiest the league's ever been.
Yep.

Speaker 1 It's awesome. It was an awesome run.

Speaker 1 And we also are just going to continue the Joe Burrow

Speaker 1 should be in the MVP discussion, but his team sucks because Joe Burrow,

Speaker 1 six straight games with three plus passing touchdowns. And he is now six straight games, 250-plus passing yards, three-plus touchdowns.
Only other person to do that is Tom Brady. He's insane.

Speaker 1 It's insane how good he's been, and they're not going to make it in the playoffs, but he's been incredible.

Speaker 2 Yep. And the Titans, good luck.
Good luck with the rest of your season. I vote that we should probably put the Titans with the Jaguars.
Yeah. We'll find something else to talk about.

Speaker 1 We don't need to talk about them anymore.

Speaker 1 They're probably not going to win another game. I would say.
Oh, no, they play the Jaguars. So I guess that game.

Speaker 4 On Thursday?

Speaker 1 I don't think it's a Thursday.

Speaker 2 It should be. You should flex that to Thursday.
Like a double-header Thursday. That should be played at 4 p.m.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Titans. Titans are the six pick right now.
There's so many bad teams.

Speaker 2 So how many teams have three wins right now?

Speaker 1 There are the Patriots, the Jags, the Panthers, the Titans, the Browns.

Speaker 1 So that's, what, five teams? And then there's another two teams with four wins.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 there's nine teams with four or less wins. Damn.
It's a lot of bad teams.

Speaker 4 Pats and Panthers are good three-win teams, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 Good?

Speaker 4 For three-win teams?

Speaker 1 They're good?

Speaker 2 One of the best three-win teams in history?

Speaker 4 Out of that group, yeah. Like, the Pats and Panthers are,

Speaker 4 the future is bright.

Speaker 1 Okay. Would you, power rankings, you'd say they're the top three-win team?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, the Panthers have been coming on strong, but I would say it's New England and Carolina.

Speaker 1 Cleveland? No.

Speaker 4 With James? They just got rid of. They don't even have a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. That's true.
By the way, shout out to Sam Hubbard because he scored a touchdown, which is very cool. Also got hurt on that, which sucked.
And like, in reading the tea leaves,

Speaker 1 he might be a cap casualty this year,

Speaker 1 which would suck because he's, you know, been a Bengals legend for them for however long now. But if that was his last play for the Bengals, kind of a cool way to go out scoring a touchdown.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what was the injury that he had?

Speaker 1 I think he said possible PCL. Oh, that's not good.
But it was like a contested catch, too. It was an awesome catch.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was great. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that does suck for him. But if it's the end, that's a very cool moment to have it be the end.
I don't, there's no way the Bengals are making the playoffs. What's their odds?

Speaker 1 There's no way the Bengals are making the playoffs.

Speaker 2 What, like three percent?

Speaker 1 I mean, we all want them to make the playoffs just because it'd be so much fun.

Speaker 2 It is, there is a path, though.

Speaker 2 I don't believe the percentage that I saw earlier. My personal math,

Speaker 2 I did the math in my head. I've got them at 24%.

Speaker 1 I have them at 5%.

Speaker 1 They're at 5%,

Speaker 1 5%.

Speaker 1 There's no chance. It's too low.

Speaker 2 It's way too low. It's a big 5%.

Speaker 1 It's a huge 5%.

Speaker 2 It's a long five.

Speaker 1 I just want them to at least be able to keep saying, like, we're still alive until the very end so they can keep trying as hard as they can.

Speaker 2 Well, we have killed them like nine times. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Joe Burrow is going to probably end if he plays the rest of the season, which I would assume he will,

Speaker 1 he's going to probably lead the league in passing yards and touchdowns. So he's had an incredible year.

Speaker 1 And they just, man, that's, it's got to be the most torturous feeling to look back at that schedule and be like, how do we lose this game?

Speaker 1 Let's do that real quick. Sorry, sorry, Bengals fans.
You're going to want to maybe skip ahead here.

Speaker 1 Let's do the top three.

Speaker 4 Week one.

Speaker 1 Top three. How did they lose that game? Yeah, week one to the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Week one of the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Oh, the Chargers game was pretty bad, too. That Chargers game was bad.

Speaker 2 I think maybe the Ravens

Speaker 2 35-34. Both Ravens.
And then Ravens 41-38. Yeah.
The Steelers too.

Speaker 1 Chiefs game when they got screwed by the refs. All they needed was one.
If one of these changed.

Speaker 2 And you could look at the Commanders game week three and say, like, if

Speaker 2 we had forced them to punt one time, we could have won that game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If we had taken the Commanders seriously. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Next up, Cowboys Panthers.
Cowboys 30, Panthers 14. Hank, credit to you.
You're exactly right. Thank you.
Let's not have the Panthers be favorites anymore. Thank you.
Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 2 Very stupid. What, 33 weeks in a row that they were underdogs? Yep.
Should have been 34. Yep.

Speaker 2 That was an oversight by Las Vegas. Yep.
But yeah, the Cooper Rush looked pretty good today. Because I think he realized I should just continue to throw the ball to Ralph Wiggum.
CeeDee Lamb. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Ralph Wiggum, feed him the ball.
Enrico Dowdell is awesome. Yeah.
He had like 149 yards. He's been awesome.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys defense was all over Bryce Young. He had no, especially in the second half, felt like he had no time.

Speaker 1 Bryce Young kind of

Speaker 1 i mean we're not a day you want to forget uh he's he's gone he's done a lot better but this was definitely a day he wants to forget because he had four turnovers or six sacks he was just harassed the entire game and i i think if you just keep getting the ball to dowdle and mix in a little turpent too yeah because like he's dynamic with the ball in his yeah and then every now and then just be like zeke yeah uh you need two yards zeke will get you one i think they put zeke in just just to make jerry jones happy i feel like he had one good just to make jerry feel young i I feel like he had one good play.

Speaker 2 I feel like I looked up and I was like, oh shit, Zeke.

Speaker 1 And he wasn't tackled for a loss.

Speaker 1 His longest rush was five yards. There we go.
Oh, yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 He caught one ball for 11 yards. He's back.
That's huge.

Speaker 2 It's like depressing watching Ezekiel Elliott run with a football in his hands.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you think he's happy, though?

Speaker 1 Well, probably not. But he gets at least...
Like, he shouldn't be on an NFL roster anymore, and at least he gets to

Speaker 1 keep catching a paycheck.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they did the rare bring him back and then pay him for his service that he provided you over the years. Yeah.
Usually that doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 Usually you give some guy a contract who's still on your team. Like in the NBA, this happens.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jerry's good to his guys.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're good to your guys. But to bring someone back and then give them like a retirement contract is crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Rico Dowdle was 25 carries, 149 yards, six yards a carry.
Zeke, they gave it to him nine times for 30 yards, 3.3 yards per carry. That's really nice.

Speaker 1 That's really nice that they did that for him. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Letting your oldest dog have like a T-bone steak. Yeah.
Like, okay, this might be your last week. Yeah.
Let's make you feel good.

Speaker 1 By the way, the Cowboys won three straight, and I think Mike McCarthy, or no, they've, sorry, they've won three out of the last four at the Bengals game, obviously, with the Leon Lett play.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 they've saved Mike McCarthy's yacht.

Speaker 2 I think they might have.

Speaker 2 I think he might be coming back next season. This is a game that if they lose, then you would think, okay, time to get rid of Mike.
Right. But I think he's done enough where they'll bring him back.

Speaker 2 And then Stephen Jones was talking about how

Speaker 2 they need to figure out what they did wrong, the different procedures and mechanisms that need to be put in place as a front office to make sure that they can turn this around.

Speaker 2 It's still going to be Jerry and Stephen Jones making all the decisions. Yes.
So it's going to continue to be fucked.

Speaker 1 And they said, I think it's going to be tight this offseason because they don't have a lot of money. Yeah.
Which is what they always are at.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, they couldn't get Derrick Henry last year. Yeah, they couldn't get Derrick Henry.

Speaker 1 He wasn't a fit. Also, shout out to Cowboys and Mike McCarthy for at least attempting a 70-yard field goal.
There should be more of that in the NFL. It was great.

Speaker 2 It was nice to see. I actually think that he can make that.
I do too.

Speaker 1 Maybe not outside,

Speaker 1 but I would agree. Indoors, I think Brandon Aubrey could make that.
It's just fun to attempt it. Like, we haven't had that since Janakowski.

Speaker 1 I just want to see it. Every time there's a 70-yard field goal, you're like, holy shit, everyone, stop.
Let's watch this.

Speaker 2 The Janikowski field goal was especially funny. 76.
It was 76 yards at the end of the half, I think. And

Speaker 2 it probably landed 15 yards short into the left. Yeah.
This one, he also hooked to the left a little bit, but I think just give him, that's your purpose for the rest of the season, Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 2 Let's have him break the NFL record for longest field goal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, why not? But credit to you, Hank. You were right.

Speaker 1 The Panthers,

Speaker 1 as better, they've been playing better football, should never be favorites. Should never, ever be favorites.

Speaker 2 Also, there was a report that came out today. Stephon Diggs,

Speaker 2 he's going to need like massive surgery.

Speaker 1 Trayvon?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, yeah. Trayvon Diggs is going to need massive, massive surgery.
Oh, keeping him out making

Speaker 2 into next year. So

Speaker 2 things are not looking good in Dallas.

Speaker 1 Wait, we're watching the Janikowski. Yeah, he was so short.

Speaker 2 I missed it to the right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he missed it so, so short. But it was awesome.
They attempted. Was that Lane Kiffen? I think it was.
I think Lane Kiffen was the coach of the Raiders then.

Speaker 1 More of that. We need more of that in the NFL.
Why not? Just the fuck it 70-yarder. Let's give it a shot.

Speaker 1 All right. Anything else? I mean,

Speaker 1 these early games were just like, like I said, we went through it and we're just like, what are we watching? Like all these games,

Speaker 1 there's not a lot of teams that have winning records.

Speaker 1 But the Cowboys, again,

Speaker 1 they're 6-8. I wouldn't have expected them to be 6-8 at this point in the season if you'd asked me a month ago.

Speaker 2 Cooper Rush, he's been a good backup quarterback before.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's kind of putting it... I don't want to say putting it together, but yeah, he's putting it together as a backup quarterback.

Speaker 2 I think he's

Speaker 2 handling business.

Speaker 1 Yeah, relatively speaking, he's putting it together.

Speaker 2 He might be, if you had a better record going into the Cooper Rush experiment, he would be keeping you afloat.

Speaker 1 Treading water. Yeah, he would have been able to tread water for you.
That's the thing: the Cowboys sucked before Dak got hurt. Yeah.
So you can't be like, oh, Dak got hurt.

Speaker 1 And CeeDee Lamb is still incredible.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Ravens, 35, Giants, 14.

Speaker 1 Another one that was, oof, the New York Giants. So before the game,

Speaker 1 the new sign on the plane was, Mr. Mara, enough, we won't stop until you fire everyone.

Speaker 1 Plane or drone.

Speaker 1 It was a plane.

Speaker 2 No, that was one of the good aliens.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was a good one. The aliens that watched ball.
Mr.

Speaker 1 Mara, enough, we won't stop until you fire everyone. It should be next week or whenever their next home game is, their last home game of the season.

Speaker 1 The tweet that was

Speaker 1 to start the second half that said, Tim Boyle is warming up as if he's going to play in the second half. No sign of Tommy DeVito out of the locker room.
That's it. That's the Giants.

Speaker 1 That sentence right there is the New York Giants, and it's as sad and bad as it gets.

Speaker 2 I like that because if you read that in a sarcastic voice, it's very funny. It's like Tim Boyle is warming up as if he's going to get into this game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he was. Tim Boyle's threatening to get into this game.

Speaker 2 As if he would, and he did.

Speaker 2 Bad times in New York, but credit to Lamar Jackson. Great game from Lamar today.

Speaker 1 More touchdowns and incompletions. Five touchdowns, four incompletions.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Is Lamar back in the MVP conversation?

Speaker 1 He absolutely is. I think Josh Allen is, I mean, what Josh Allen's done the last few weeks has been insane.

Speaker 1 But I know you have an MVP ticket on Lamar.

Speaker 2 That's why I want to

Speaker 1 back in MVP. I'm happy to help.
I do too. I'm happy to help.
All right. Let's start.
All right, let's discuss this. People aren't mad at us at all about Travis Hunter, so let's just hop right back in.

Speaker 2 Let's have the conversation. National Sports Podcast.
Second place.

Speaker 4 As of right now.

Speaker 1 So he's in the hunt. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And listen, if he just goes nuts for the last four games,

Speaker 2 who's to say?

Speaker 4 Who is Odd Schmadz? All that matters is he's in second. He's one behind the leader.

Speaker 2 Odd Schmods. Odd Schmads.

Speaker 1 That's what we say. Lamar should be the MVP.
Although, I love Josh.

Speaker 2 No, I'm willing to say right now he should not be the MVP. Okay.
That's Josh Allen right now.

Speaker 2 But I think he's lurking.

Speaker 1 I will help you if you need me.

Speaker 2 No, you know, I don't want to get greedy. I don't want to get greedy.
All right.

Speaker 1 I mean, we would have voted for Ash and Genti if we had a vote.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think we all agree on that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Rashad Bateman's really good. That was the only other note I took.
That's like, finally,

Speaker 1 it feels like the Ravens, they had that little lull, and it feels like they're, I mean, we'll find out on Saturday when they play the Steelers, because if they beat the Steelers,

Speaker 1 it like kind of changes how the playoff picture might look.

Speaker 1 And, you know, they could hop up into the three seed, and it's like, oh, shit, this is going to be a packed top three. Not that the Steelers aren't bad, but I do think the Ravens are better.

Speaker 1 And so this will be a very interesting question on Saturday because Lamar has struggled against the Steelers.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 back to what we talked about on Friday, with this loss, now they are 0-8 at home.

Speaker 1 0-home.

Speaker 2 And so they would be the first team to go 0-9 if they lose at home to the Colts. Yeah.
Which is like a double insult that it's the Colts that are going to do it to them. Potentially.

Speaker 2 Maybe not, though. We don't know.
Maybe they'll win. I'm going to root for the Giants in that game.

Speaker 2 I don't want to see the Giants do that. Yeah, win one game.
Give your fans one thing to like a happy Sunday to drive home with.

Speaker 1 Guy who flies the plane, please do use that tweet, though. Tim Boyle

Speaker 1 is warming up as if he's going in. Yeah.
That's a good one. Also,

Speaker 1 fun fact, Mark Andrews now is the franchise record holder for the Baltimore Ravens for touchdowns. That is a fun fact.
Good for him. Kind of crazy.
Yeah. Jamal Lewis was the person he passed.

Speaker 2 This was maybe a get-right game for Justin Tucker. Yeah.
Extra points only. Yeah.
Five for five. Yeah.
It looked like it went right down the middle. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Felt good that he could see one go through.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he saw five go through today. Yeah.
That's got to be good for the confidence.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this was not even. I mean, this game was,

Speaker 1 it's rare that you have a 16-point spread in the NFL and you're like, yeah, I'll take it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, never in doubt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll fucking. It's Tim Boyle.
And I mean, Tim Boyle did do an okay job force-feeding it to Malik Neighbors in the second half. Yeah.
And Malik Neighbors is good. Yeah.
So, and Malik Neighbors.

Speaker 1 Okay, here we go, Giants fans. Malik Neighbors was seen warming up in the streets of New York with Shador Sanders this weekend.

Speaker 2 Is that true? Yeah.

Speaker 1 They were throwing a ball. They were just playing catch.

Speaker 2 I mean, that would be awesome for the Giants fans. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that's a little glimpse.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they got a little chemistry going. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were just throwing a little toss.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 game of the year for memes. Jets 32, Jaguars 25.

Speaker 1 This was memes. This was everything you wanted to see.
Not in the first half. Aaron Rodgers started three three for eight, 55 yards in the first half.

Speaker 1 And then in the second half, he was like, oh, yeah, Devontae Adams is my best friend, and I'm just going to throw the ball to him.

Speaker 1 And Devontae Adams, in the second half, he had no catches in the first half. He had nine catches, 198 yards, two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Devontae Adams had 145 yards in the final four minutes in regulation. And memes,

Speaker 1 are you back?

Speaker 1 Are you back?

Speaker 2 Unfortunately, not.

Speaker 1 It was almost every.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm back in on Rodgers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that's what I'm asking. That's what I'm asking.
I'm back in on Rodgers. Yeah, I'm not asking if you're back.
Like, you guys have been eliminated from play.

Speaker 1 I was asking for the future Rodgers.

Speaker 1 Back.

Speaker 1 No, you're right. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you're eliminated. You have a quarterback.
I got to remind you, you're eliminated.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but your team could be complete as a whole going into next year.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 Would be being back in my head.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 We don't have a coach. Unfortunately, our defense is

Speaker 2 bad. Yeah.
It's very bad. Sauce Garner was also bad.

Speaker 1 Got the game-winning pick.

Speaker 2 Got the game-winning pick, but he was very bad today as well.

Speaker 1 Okay, but are you back? I'm back. On Rod.
Rogers.

Speaker 2 I'm back in on Rodgers.

Speaker 1 You put his fat head back up on the.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I didn't put him on his body, but he's next to.

Speaker 1 Because you had ripped it off? You had ripped his head off his body? Yep. Ripped it completely off.

Speaker 2 His arms are also gone.

Speaker 1 So are you putting him back on?

Speaker 1 His arms? Everything.

Speaker 2 Just the head. I think the arms got thrown out.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Did you throw him out?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 So are you back in on Aaron Rodgers with Devontae Adams? I'm back in on Aaron Rodgers if that means we get to keep Devontae Adams. Okay.

Speaker 1 But if you have to parent-trap Devontae Adams into staying?

Speaker 2 What if something happens and Devontae's not there next year?

Speaker 2 Still back on Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 You need both. We need both.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's my combat.

Speaker 2 Who's daddy?

Speaker 1 Damn. That was, I mean, it was incredible the second half.

Speaker 1 It felt like vintage Rodgers and Devontae Adams.

Speaker 2 Felt like Vintage Rodgers.

Speaker 1 The offense was clicking.

Speaker 2 Garrett Wilson is still stud. Alan Lazard still can't catch.
So there'd be another touchdown added onto that.

Speaker 2 There was a dot in there.

Speaker 1 It was beautiful. Yeah.
Jaguars' throwbacks were awesome. Doug Peterson's hair looked extra white.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they were great jerseys.

Speaker 1 And also, I came to the conclusion that I I don't think there's maybe we could do a research topic on this, but I think Mac Jones might be the cockiest bad quarterback of all time.

Speaker 2 Drew Locke.

Speaker 1 Drew Locke is cocky, but like not in a

Speaker 2 Drew Locke has swagger. His highs are.

Speaker 1 And he also has swagger. It's not like cockiness that's like...

Speaker 1 Like Mac Jones made... He had like a run today where he was like, he was doing the Dekembe finger.
He had the Rizzler. Yeah, he was doing everything.
It's like, dude,

Speaker 1 you're Mac Jones. What are you doing?

Speaker 2 He called his honored a bitch.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, he is legitimately cocky for how bad he is.

Speaker 1 Because, you know what I mean? Like, Drew Locke has swagger, but

Speaker 1 I don't

Speaker 1 think of it as like total cockiness. Mac Jones,

Speaker 1 like, he'll talk shit to someone down on a 3-10 team down a million. Mm-hmm.
And cry. And then cry.
Yeah, look at this. Look at this.
He did the Rizzler. Oh, wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He did. I don't know if you have have the finger wag.
He did one where he was just like, he was doing the DeKembe finger wag at them.

Speaker 2 I need to sit down and think about this.

Speaker 2 The worst quarterbacks with the most confidence.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not confidence. It's cocky.

Speaker 2 Cockiness.

Speaker 1 It's because confidence, like, I want confidence, and confidence is good, but he's cocky.

Speaker 2 Johnny Mantel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he was so good in cocky. He was so good in college.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was Johnny Football.

Speaker 2 I mean, Mac Jones was good in college, too. Yeah, true.

Speaker 2 He's just Jimmy G.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he does.

Speaker 4 Jimmy G wasn't cocky.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, Jimmy G wasn't cocky.

Speaker 4 He didn't come off cocky. No, no.

Speaker 1 Mac Jones is cocky. You agree, right? Oh, yeah, for sure.
It's crazy. It's crazy to watch him play football and be like, why is he talking about

Speaker 4 country club kid cocky, dude?

Speaker 1 He's like, my dad's a little bit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like he's a rich kid cocky. Yeah.
Drew Locke actually had possessed swag.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. He's got aura.
Mac Jones is just like, yeah, he's got the cockiness of my dad will sue you,

Speaker 1 which is not good cockiness. Brian Thomas is also really, really good.
Yeah. He was, they were force-feeding him, and it was, but yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I, something about it, Mac Jones, he just, he just because most backup QBs too are like backup QBs.

Speaker 4 They, like, he's still got that I'm a starter energy.

Speaker 1 Like, yelling at people, pointing to people. He's like, what are you doing, dude?

Speaker 2 Kind of a dirty player. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Definitely. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's good that you can say that.

Speaker 1 It took you a while, but you can finally say that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he was just a competitor when he was on the Patriots. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Memes, would you like to talk about Bill Belichick trying to be the Jets head coach?

Speaker 2 Sure.

Speaker 1 Well, do you believe that report?

Speaker 2 I do believe it.

Speaker 1 But it was done by a Rossini. Yeah.
The Rossini.

Speaker 2 I'm marking down which one she's right about and which one she's wrong.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 2 So we talked about this earlier, and I think she's, what, three for four?

Speaker 2 Two for three. Well, what was the one that she was wrong about that you claim? That they were benching Aaron Rodgers.
That there were discussions discussions about benching

Speaker 2 after the buy,

Speaker 2 they're going to bench him. Was the report they will be benching Aaron Rodgers? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't remember. I don't remember.
So you believe the Belichick one?

Speaker 1 That's what I'm talking about. Please forward that to our files, please.
You believe the Belichick one? I believe the Belichick one.

Speaker 1 Actually, I mean, it would make sense why he all of a sudden decided to go to UNC. Like, if he tried to go to the Jets and the Jets were like, no.
That's the one franchise that should say yes.

Speaker 1 It's the one franchise he shouldn't want to go to. So it's almost like him bending over backwards to be like, Give me a job, please.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he seemed desperate. Right.
Yeah, which is why I think the report was put out there by the Jets.

Speaker 2 They saw their one opportunity to get a clean shot in at Bill and be like, Hey, he's down so bad that he even wanted to work for us.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Which is maybe not the same own that they think that it is.

Speaker 1 Hank, do you believe it?

Speaker 4 No, I mean, he took shots at the ownership on the manicast. I could definitely see it being a petty, like, I could see him floating it out there, but I don't think it was too serious by Belichick.

Speaker 4 He also, did you guys see his contract details with the buyout?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, it's like $1 million.

Speaker 4 He basically has it set up where he could potentially take an NFL job this offseason.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, if some team needed to coach in June, he would just do it.

Speaker 1 He could do it.

Speaker 4 So he might never coach at UNC.

Speaker 1 That would be very funny.

Speaker 2 So if an NFL coach gets fired during the offseason,

Speaker 2 then Bill could take their spot.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I guess that's true with Black Monday or whatever. They usually get settled settled by June.
But yeah.

Speaker 4 The way they structure their contract to be specifically

Speaker 4 after June 1st, then the buyout's a lot less makes it seem like he is still

Speaker 4 telling UNC, like, I kind of want to coach the NFL. Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 What do we found here, memes?

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers disputed Diane Rossini's report. He doesn't want to play for the Jets in 2020.
That doesn't say anything about benching.

Speaker 2 That's for next year.

Speaker 1 But he does say, I don't talk to that person. Yeah.
Okay. Well, we didn't think he did.

Speaker 4 She can have sources that aren't finding Rodgers.

Speaker 1 But also, it feels weird that you're...

Speaker 4 You're talking to yourself? You're picking in.

Speaker 2 I'm telling Max. Max is in charge of looking stuff up.

Speaker 1 You're telling me to find something that doesn't hurt.

Speaker 1 He's mad at you saying that. Find the report.

Speaker 2 You haven't found anything. Find the report.
It's an imaginary story.

Speaker 1 Behind Max.

Speaker 1 You write it.

Speaker 4 He's got one foot, dude.

Speaker 1 If Max can't find Luigi being Greek, he's not going to find this.

Speaker 1 We're going to have to talk about your foot.

Speaker 1 Okay, so back in on Rodgers being the quarterback next year with Devontae Adams.

Speaker 2 I think so because this game told you a lot.

Speaker 1 Did it?

Speaker 2 The defense led up so many points against a Mac Jones-led team.

Speaker 1 But he's cocked.

Speaker 2 He couldn't score a touchdown until the fourth quarter against the Titans last week.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 So I think you just... Because if you draft a quarterback top 10, you're still neglecting so many parts of the team that you have so many holes.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but the thing is about the NFL, if you have a very good quarterback, then everything else kind of changes.

Speaker 1 But you are going to have the eighth pick, so you probably don't want to take a quarterback there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and all the quarterbacks are going back to their team in college.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true.

Speaker 1 It's like day by day, somebody just keeps going back.

Speaker 2 Yeah. All right, so you want to fix the defense first? I think fix defense.

Speaker 2 Hire coach.

Speaker 1 Hire coach. Hire coach.
Well, no, hire coach first.

Speaker 2 Wait, hire a GM first or a coach?

Speaker 1 Hire a GM.

Speaker 2 Hire GM first.

Speaker 1 Coach. Coach.

Speaker 4 Promote son.

Speaker 1 Promote son.

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 4 The owner's son. Yeah, promote your son.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. There was a rumor he was making

Speaker 1 a lot of the decisions.

Speaker 2 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Promote your son.

Speaker 2 Just make your son the GM.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And coach. Yeah.
Aaron Rodgers Bridge. Bridge.
Okay. To Jameis.

Speaker 2 Jameis could be on the team, too. Okay.
Co-bridges. Co-bridges.
If you have two bridges, you don't have one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would actually make it a lot stronger. Yeah.
Just Just two bridges sitting going right next to each other.

Speaker 2 Give it another go next year. Yep.

Speaker 1 Then

Speaker 2 quarterback the next year.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
All right. That's a good plan.

Speaker 2 So maybe

Speaker 2 compete for the division next year with the bridge?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. We're definitely competing next year.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 In your mind, what does a bridge quarterback mean?

Speaker 2 Someone to help you compete

Speaker 2 and win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Okay, got it. That is exactly.
Okay, that's the bridge. Got it.

Speaker 2 Realistic.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 Okay, next game. Texans 20, Dolphins 12.

Speaker 1 Tua.

Speaker 1 That was bad.

Speaker 2 The Dolphins might bum me out as much, if not more, than any other team.

Speaker 1 We talked about it on Friday, though. We forgot about it.

Speaker 1 I was trying to remind everyone, the Dolphins playing good teams will always suck. And that's what happened.
The Texans are over 500. The Dolphins suck against them.
But yeah, they were.

Speaker 1 Now, obviously, Jalen Waddell getting hurt and Du Bois getting hurt, which was very, very scary and hope he's okay.

Speaker 1 Limited their offense. But watching that game and watching the Dolphins just run basically the same like little dump off screen over and over and over again.

Speaker 1 And then it was just dump off, dump off to an interception was so maddening and so frustrating to watch. And the Dolphins' defense actually played pretty well, but get this team out of here.

Speaker 2 I thought that, I mean, Tua was dumping off a little bit early in the game, and then after the injury to his receiver DeBose,

Speaker 2 he felt it to me, it felt like he didn't want to throw anything across the middle, which on a human level, I kind of get it. Yeah, I understand it.
That was like a really scary moment for everyone.

Speaker 2 But yeah, the offense didn't look like it looked like the Steelers' offense that we saw like the last two seasons. Yeah.
It was

Speaker 2 not fun.

Speaker 1 No, it was not fun. It was a bummer to watch.

Speaker 2 And when you you see Mike McDaniel on the sideline, when he's bummed out, that bums me out, too.

Speaker 1 Yep. And it was just...

Speaker 2 It's like some coaches have the capacity when their team is playing bad to at least get super pissed off. And then that makes me entertained.
Right.

Speaker 2 When I get to see them grabbing people and spitting and shit. Mike McDaniel just, he just gets sad on the sideline.

Speaker 1 It was a tough, tough watch. And Tua just, ugh.

Speaker 4 It was bad.

Speaker 1 He just kept on throwing picks at Derrick Stingley.

Speaker 2 So you remember that Dolphins-Broncos game? Remember that one where the Dolphins scored 70 points? Yes. And blew out the Broncos? Yes.

Speaker 2 So since that game, the Dolphins are 14 and 15, and the Broncos are 17 and 11.

Speaker 1 Yikes. Yikes.
It flipped. They flipped.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're a bummer to watch. I don't want to watch the Dolphins anymore.
No. And that was their season because I think if they had won this game, they would have a 31% chance.

Speaker 1 And now they have a 4% chance of making the playoffs.

Speaker 2 And the Texans, I believe, they clinched the the AFC South. Yes, they did.
Because they won and the Colts lost, right?

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, they did.

Speaker 1 Credit to the Texans. I still don't know what to make of the Texans, especially offensively.

Speaker 1 They had 181 total yards, which is kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 They couldn't run the ball at all. It felt like their offense was

Speaker 1 Tua throwing a pick and then C.J. Stroud doing something awesome to Nico Collins.

Speaker 1 And I mean, the game flipped on the incredible fake punt, which was an awesome call. Awesome play call, awesome design.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I don't know what to make of the - like, the Texans don't give me any confidence when I'm watching them offensively. It doesn't feel like they have any rhythm.

Speaker 2 So the Texans,

Speaker 2 they could win two out of their next three because they got the Chiefs next week, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And

Speaker 2 maybe No Mahomes. Then they host the Ravens.
Probably a loss.

Speaker 2 But that's Christmas, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's the Beyonce game. And then last week at the Titans.
So they'll probably end up with 11 wins.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they're going to win two out of the last three. You don't think so? I don't think, even without Mahomes, I don't know if I trust.
Is that at Kansas City?

Speaker 2 That is at Kansas City.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Carson Wentz is going to win that game. You think so?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Carson Wentz wins that game. I think the Texans end up with 11 wins and they become the most disrespected 11-win team of all time.

Speaker 1 But rightfully so.

Speaker 2 But maybe rightfully so. Maybe rightfully so.
And then you've got, they could then play against the Ravens

Speaker 1 Yeah, it'd be the Ravens or the Steelers, depending on who wins the AFC North. Yeah, I don't know if the Texans are going to win.

Speaker 1 I still, even with Carson Wentz, I just don't trust their defense. I mean, their offense at all.
Yeah. Their offense doesn't ⁇ it hasn't looked ⁇ it's boomer-bust.

Speaker 1 If Joe Mixon's going crazy, like it feels like every game, it's either you'll know right away, like Joe Mixon's going to go for 150 or he's going to go for 20.

Speaker 2 So if you're a Texans fan, you're probably not happy with how your offense looked this year compared to last season, right? Right.

Speaker 2 So, Bobby Sloick was a name that was thrown out a lot last season as being like the next up-and-coming coordinator that's going to be a head coach somewhere. Yep.

Speaker 2 He's probably not going to get that buzz this offseason.

Speaker 1 No. In fact, the Bears will probably find a way to fire him.

Speaker 2 Texans fans, I think a lot of Texans fans want to fire him. Yeah.
Want to move on. This might be the best thing, though.
You might get three seasons of C.J. Stroud with Bobby Sloick

Speaker 2 because he didn't have a great second year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Sophomore slump.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so yeah.

Speaker 1 I think the Bears are going to hire him somehow. You think so? Yeah, somehow.
I mean, CJ looked good last year. He did.
He looked really good last year. And it's not all on C.J.
Stroud.

Speaker 1 I mean, their offensive line has struggled, and

Speaker 1 I just don't have any confidence. It's weird because like what you said, say they get to 11 wins.

Speaker 1 Like, when I look at the AFC, I don't know if you feel the same way, but I think of the Chiefs, the Bills, and the Ravens, and maybe the Steelers. We'll see.

Speaker 1 I haven't even thought about the Texans as being a threat to any of those teams. No.
In any type of capacity.

Speaker 2 I mean, the Broncos are kind of there, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Broncos are there. I don't know if the Broncos can win, you know, multiple playoff games.

Speaker 2 But right now, if the Broncos went to Houston, he's trying to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Are you taking the Broncos? I would take the Broncos.

Speaker 1 I'm not putting the Broncos in the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens category.

Speaker 1 That seems a little too far. Wouldn't you agree? Yeah, I would.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, bummer of a game. Bummer of a game.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up, we're finally in the afternoon. We're finally get to some good games.

Speaker 1 But we got one more game that didn't really matter. Cardinals, 30.
Patriots, 17. Hank, Drake May, 10 for 10 in the first half.

Speaker 4 He's played well.

Speaker 4 He's enjoyable to watch.

Speaker 4 Interceptions, not his fault. Hits guys in the hands, and they just hand it to the other team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was that one that was so, like, who was that to? Booty. Booty, yeah.

Speaker 2 How many times has Booty done that this year?

Speaker 1 A lot.

Speaker 4 And a lot of drops.

Speaker 2 I think probably like three or four times. He's just played volleyball to a defensive player.

Speaker 4 But it's the path is clear.

Speaker 4 Keep losing.

Speaker 1 Travis Hunter. Okay.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, Drake May, Travis Hunter, gets the juices from the brain. So Travis playing wide receiver.

Speaker 1 I mean, Travis Hunter and Christian Gonzalez.

Speaker 4 And then Travis Hunter, Christian Gonzalez, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's elite.

Speaker 4 Why not do it both in the pros? Be the first to do that.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 What about Mayo? You still a Mayo boy? No, and even better.

Speaker 4 So then today, no, I've never really been a Mayo boy.

Speaker 4 I think the whole, everything I've ever said on this program has not been

Speaker 4 a big bought in on Mayo. I've always kind of said he feels like a puppet for Kraft.

Speaker 4 But today they were cutting to the booth and the lip readers, they had Jonathan Kraft taking notes, and you could clearly read his lips being like the play calling is terrible oh

Speaker 2 uh oh but that's not Mayo is it

Speaker 4 it's the head coach I mean that if you're taking notes and you're the you know the owner owner's son like oh is that a catch ah

Speaker 4 that's not a good sign no no it's not but it is a good sign if you want a new head coach yeah so I think I think it was a win today was a great day when wins all around if you were to find out that mayo was coming back next season you would be bummed out Yeah.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't understand it. I would be like, let's, let's, I would say exactly what I said about Matt Eberflus,

Speaker 4 but I would, I was joking, being like, there has to be a reason to bring it back, knowing that there isn't, and he's a bad coach.

Speaker 2 I think they will bring him back. And the reason why is because of Robert Kraft.
Because Robert Kraft doesn't want to seem like he's a guy that's short-tempered.

Speaker 2 He doesn't want to admit that he made a bad decision. He wants a guy that he will allow to grow into the role of a head coach.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. Is he actually on the hot seat like this? I think he is.

Speaker 4 I mean, you tell me, why would you're, why would, if you're the owner and your son sitting next to you taking notes?

Speaker 2 Probably because Alex Van Pelt is on the hot seat.

Speaker 1 I mean, I didn't realize he was maybe on the hot seat, but it would make sense. He hasn't been, it hasn't exactly been an inspiring.

Speaker 4 And I don't think Kraft, I mean, I think there's something to be said about like the, you know, he clearly cares about the PR and the perception and stuff. The fans are not necessarily on his side.

Speaker 4 I don't think they like Mayo, so this might be like a way for for him to kind of get back, you know, in the good graces of the fans. Right.

Speaker 2 I just think that Robert Kraft, he wants to be,

Speaker 2 he visions himself like the Steelers organization, where it's like a stable franchise. So I don't think he would want to fire a coach after one year.

Speaker 1 What is this? Jared Mayo giving his post-game press conference after the game is just a video of Osama bin Laden. Yeah, that's not, that's not.
So maybe he is on the hot seat.

Speaker 2 Community notes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that does seem like.

Speaker 1 All right, this guy said the Kraft family would bring back Gerard Mayo and his staff because they do not want to admit a mistake. Yeah, there you go.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 it seems like a bad situation, Hank, because you don't want to.

Speaker 1 Why would you bring him back just so you don't want to make him like you're just making a mistake? You're delaying the inevitable.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're delaying the inevitable.

Speaker 2 If you think he's not the guy,

Speaker 2 Belichick would get rid of him one year too early.

Speaker 1 He did what he was playing.

Speaker 1 Patriots head coach Gerard Mayo was asked if there was a consideration to running Drake May on third and one and fourth and one in the red red zone because of his rushing ability, Mayo responded, you said it, I didn't.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What is that?

Speaker 2 So that seems like it's a shot at Alex Van Pelt.

Speaker 1 Oh, on a follow-up, he said, it's always my decision. I would say the quarterback obviously has, you know, a good pair of legs.
Huh.

Speaker 1 Huh.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so he's blaming his coordinator.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's, that's not, that does seem Matt Eberfloos-esque.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're dealing with a similar situation.

Speaker 1 Cardinals,

Speaker 1 I mean, I expected them to play well today, and they did. James Conner had a big day.
They still are alive, especially because we're watching Sunday Night Football right now, and Geno

Speaker 1 might be out for the year. So that kind of opens some things up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there was one.

Speaker 1 Although the Cardinals already have played the Seahawks twice, and they lost both times.

Speaker 2 Kyler did have

Speaker 2 that one interception. It was a bad interception, too.
They got called back from roughing the pass. Yeah, which was a bullshit.
I feel so bad.

Speaker 2 I feel so bad for defensive players, especially when you're trying to hit Kyler Murray, who's his strike zone, the head is already pretty low for him.

Speaker 2 And then he ducked into it as he was going to the ground.

Speaker 1 That was purely an interception that, or sorry, a roughing the pass. It was like, he's too small.
We have to protect him.

Speaker 2 He's just a little guy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like his heads are at the defender's arms.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And he ducked, too.
This is why the NFL needs the super challenge. We've seen it a bunch this year.
The super challenge should be a thing. Challenge anything.

Speaker 1 Challenge anything.

Speaker 2 Once again, if you can see that the call is wrong on the replay, the super challenge turns it over immediately.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 4 Doesn't matter if it's an orange flag. Yeah, orange.

Speaker 2 You like that? Ooh, the orange flag. What if you have to light it on fire?

Speaker 4 That would be cool, too. You can't use it after.

Speaker 1 Like a magician?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you light it on fire, but then it's got to like, maybe it explodes

Speaker 2 on the field. Like a grenade.

Speaker 1 You get a grenade. You get a grenade.

Speaker 2 The challenge grenade.

Speaker 1 If you hit a ref, that's fair play.

Speaker 2 Dude, the challenge grenade, you tell me that that wouldn't drive ratings up? It would stop the game. The NBA fucked up their whole challenge system.
Now nobody watches.

Speaker 2 If Steve Kerr had a grenade that he would throw onto the court, damn right people would tune in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm in. Challenge grenade.
Yeah. Do it.

Speaker 1 All right, Hank. Anything else?

Speaker 4 No. Good loss.

Speaker 1 Good loss. Good loss.
Yeah, you're

Speaker 1 on your third pick overall. Yeah.
So it could be Travis Hunter. Although the Jags.
Oh, no, sorry.

Speaker 4 No, it's too

Speaker 4 Giant T Raiders.

Speaker 1 Two QE teams.

Speaker 2 Would you want him primarily as a receiver or primarily as a corner?

Speaker 4 Primarily,

Speaker 4 I think he's better as a corner. I don't know.
He's better as a corner. He's better as a corner.
Him and Chris.

Speaker 1 But he's really good as a corner.

Speaker 4 But it's also like he'd be fun because they would mix it up and probably do returns. He could probably

Speaker 4 every time they put him on the field. Like they could throw him in the field for

Speaker 4 formations and stuff and just get the people going.

Speaker 2 If you had him and Christian Gonzalez, that would be such an awesome pair of corners. That'd be the Patriot missile, no fly zone.

Speaker 1 Very hard to stop. Yeah.
Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Okay, we got some games that actually had some meaning in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 Bucks 40, Chargers 17. I'd like to speak to Max and Max only.
Max, I think that the Chargers are probably dead.

Speaker 1 I think I agree. Yeah, J.K.
Dobbins getting hurt against the Ravens. Really, they can't run the ball anymore.

Speaker 1 And that wasn't the difference in this game because the Bucs are actually really good and Baker was incredible. But

Speaker 1 I think the Chargers can still make the playoffs. I do not think they can win a playoff game.

Speaker 2 Sucks. Ladd's back, though.

Speaker 1 Ladd is back. He had a couple drops.

Speaker 2 A few drops today. Two drops.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 1 it was a close game, and then it was just the Bucs dominating him in the second half. Mike Evans, who we are a big Mike Evans podcast, respect Mike Evans as one of the greatest receivers of all time.

Speaker 1 He had 159 yards, two touchdowns. He is now 749 yards, so he's got to average 83.7 yards in his final three games to reach 1,000 yards for the 11th straight season.

Speaker 1 And that's all 11 years of his career.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 1 Mike Evans is incredible. Yeah, he's legit.
But yeah, Baker was on fire today. Baker was 22 for 27, 288 in four touchdowns, and the Chargers just like, they got gashed.

Speaker 2 And he also ran with the ball pretty well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they gave up 505 yards to the Bucs.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the defense, the once-vaunted Chargers' defense does not look good when they have to play against good quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 They just look like they've run out of gas. And I don't know what it is.
I mean, the Bucs, it's more the Bucs are playing great football right now.

Speaker 1 And the Bucs, that was a huge win for the Bucs because that was their last game against a team over 500. So,

Speaker 1 you know, they're up in the NFC South right now, and they control their own destiny. And they have the Cowboys, Panthers, and Saints to finish the season.

Speaker 1 Last two games at home, the Bucs are a dangerous team. Yeah.
The Bucs are a dangerous team.

Speaker 2 I think they're a very good team. Yeah.

Speaker 2 They've played well all season, and when they had their best players out, they still played well just with worst players.

Speaker 2 So they've been kind of like consistent, even though at times they weren't very good, if that makes sense at all. Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense.

Speaker 2 So now that they've got some of their better players back, yeah, they're a legitimate threat, I think, in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 This game got off to a great start because our good friend Coach Harbaugh had Judge Judy serve as one of the captains of the Chargers before the game. He's been a huge fan of Judge Judy.

Speaker 2 I always laugh when I see those pictures of Harbaugh and his dad sitting at a live taping of Judge Judy. The best.
So he's pulling out all the stops. What else can you do if you're Harbaugh?

Speaker 1 I know if you're Harbaugh. He brought up some big guns.
You can't lose the Judge Judy game. You can't lose the Judge Judy game.
That's brutal.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's bad. Like, what do you do next? Well, to be fair, also, Herbert, he got hurt in the first half.
Yeah. He got rolled up on it, fucked his ankle up.

Speaker 2 He's had just a rotating series of, I feel like he goes back and forth between both of his ankles. Yeah.
You just keep getting fucked up all the time.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm not going to make excuses. I think the Chargers are just playing bad football right now.

Speaker 1 Like, they, even that game against the Falcons, they kind of got dominated and were lucky to win it. So, you know, they've been playing good teams, the Chiefs and the Bucs and the Ravens.
So

Speaker 1 you can say, like, hey, they've had a tough schedule. But still, you would have liked them to be a little bit more competitive against the Bucs in the second half.

Speaker 1 And they just got absolutely worked, worked. And it feels like it's just two teams going in two different directions when you're talking about the Bucs and the Chargers.

Speaker 2 This is a a big game for the Bucs, too. So now, what are they at? 87% to make the playoffs?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I wouldn't be...

Speaker 1 I don't think the Falcons are going to lose

Speaker 1 to the Raiders on Monday night football, but I wouldn't be shocked. It could happen.
Because that's just something the Falcons would do.

Speaker 1 They would do something stupid like that and have Desmond Ritter

Speaker 1 revenge game. And yeah, the Bucs are a team I want to see in the playoffs because they will, and that will be a very, very interesting first-round matchup because they'll play

Speaker 1 one of the NFC North teams, and it will be like.

Speaker 2 They've beaten the Lions.

Speaker 1 They've beaten the Lions. They've beaten the Eagles.

Speaker 2 But they're not going to play the Lions in the first round.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, no, they absolutely could play the Lions in the first round.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The Vikings could get the one seat.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or the Vikings could get the two seed. Vikings are very much alive to be, and they play the Lions, I think, week 18.
So the Vikings are not.

Speaker 1 Vikings are there.

Speaker 1 We kind of forgot about the Vikings, but with the Lions loss today, the Vikings are there.

Speaker 2 I've mentally had the Vikings just locked into that fifth seed. No,

Speaker 1 they are very much

Speaker 1 sitting there being like,

Speaker 1 this one seed could be ours if they keep winning, because I think the one seed comes down to conference record.

Speaker 1 So I guess they would be tied with the Eagles.

Speaker 1 I don't know how they'd figure that one out, but the Vikings, if they went out,

Speaker 1 if they went out, they win the North. That's for a fact.
So they control their own destiny in that respect.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Bucs, I'm excited to see the Bucs in the playoffs. I like Baker.
He's been awesome. Todd Bull still can't figure out when to go for two.

Speaker 2 He has no idea. No idea.
No idea when to punt. No idea when to call a timeout.
No idea when to go for two.

Speaker 1 None.

Speaker 2 But it didn't matter today.

Speaker 1 Didn't matter today because they kicked the shit out of the

Speaker 1 kicked the shit out of the Chargers and the Chargers. It's sad.
I'm sad. I'm sad about the Chargers.

Speaker 1 They're going to still make the playoffs. The problem is, the entire idea of them making the playoffs was that they wouldn't have the seven seed.

Speaker 1 They'd have the six seed, and they wouldn't have to play the Bills. Now they're in the seven seed, and they would have to play the Bills if the playoffs started today.

Speaker 1 I think the Eagles have the tiebreaker over the Vikings, by the way. Oh, they do.
They lost to the Rams, and we beat the Rams. Oh, there you go.
Okay. But the Vikings, if they won out,

Speaker 1 would at bare minimum have the two seed.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they would win that division. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Next up.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait, no, yeah, Memes makes a good point. They beat the Falcons.
Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 Crunch the numbers. Crunch the numbers.

Speaker 2 Well, you guys beat the Falcons, too, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit, PFT. I don't know if you saw this, but Saquon.
We beat the Commanders. That's true.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. So you guys have the tiebreaker over us.

Speaker 1 I don't know the numbers. I don't know the numbers.
Find it.

Speaker 1 You need to know the numbers. These are the the most important.

Speaker 1 You've been begging for the Lions to lose another game for the last month, and they finally did, and you don't have the numbers.

Speaker 1 You got to know the numbers. This is inexcusable.
There it is. Affilian Vikings went out.
There it is. The tiebreaker for the number.
Click that. Click the

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 1 Your foot's broken, not your brain, right?

Speaker 1 Okay, scroll down. Scroll down.
See, it's a red. It literally says it right there.

Speaker 2 Strength of victory would be your your

Speaker 1 tiebreaker.

Speaker 2 What does strength of victory mean?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I like that, though. Like the best teams that you've beaten?

Speaker 1 Yeah, or how bad you've beaten them?

Speaker 1 I think it's how bad you've beaten them.

Speaker 1 Minnesota has a higher strength of victory.

Speaker 2 It sounds like a shitty video game, doesn't it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's

Speaker 1 the teams you play, like the win-loss record for the teams you play. Okay.
So that will probably hurt the Eagles because they're going to be.

Speaker 2 The win-loss record for the teams you beat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, teams you beat. Yeah, yeah.
Strength of victory. So that would hurt the Eagles because they don't.

Speaker 1 I think they still have to play the Cowboys. And

Speaker 1 have you played the Giants twice?

Speaker 1 No, we're not. So that's bad.
But if bad for your strength of victories. Bad.

Speaker 1 That's bad for your strength.

Speaker 2 But if you lose to the Commanders this week, then that victory over the Commanders from Thursday night looks a lot better.

Speaker 1 Strength of victory. But then if you have a third loss, then you're in trouble.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. Okay.

Speaker 1 We got to win now. All right.
Broncos 31, Colts 13. This game was crazy because the Colts were in full control,

Speaker 1 and then Jonathan Taylor dropped the ball going into the end zone to go up 20-7, and all hell broke loose, and the Broncos ended up kicking the shit out of the Colts in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, we could sit here and say how stupid it is to drop the ball on the one-yard line.

Speaker 1 I'd never do it.

Speaker 2 I have never dropped the ball on the one-yard line.

Speaker 2 If my body was teleported into Jonathan Taylor's body at the one-yard line, you bet your ass we scored that touchdown. Yep.
I could have scored that touchdown.

Speaker 1 Every time.

Speaker 2 It's mass hysteria at this point. It's crazy.
Because it's made no sense since day one when it first started, Deshaun Jackson. Yep.

Speaker 2 And the fact that people keep doing it for absolutely no reason at all. There's no other explanation.

Speaker 1 They think it looks cool, I think. I think they think it looks cool.

Speaker 2 I think they just give up on it. You know what? We can make this about society.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know what, Big Get? That's the problem with Zoomers. Yep.
Is that they never finish anything.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They don't finish what they started.
No. Go score a touchdown.
Not like us.

Speaker 2 I only finish.

Speaker 1 I would always finish.

Speaker 2 That's the only thing I'm good at is finishing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I barely start. Yeah.
I finish so fast you didn't even know I started.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. And look, the Colts,

Speaker 1 I've talked a lot about Anthony Richardson. I'm not a big fan.

Speaker 1 He has guys dropped the ball a lot, but he also misses a lot of throws and he throws bad interceptions.

Speaker 1 But Jonathan Taylor, like, you get that ball in the end zone, and the pressure is on the Broncos, who Bonix was not playing well at the time, and

Speaker 1 like everything fell apart from there. It was the punt return that put him into

Speaker 1 great field position. It was the stupid gimmick play that the Broncos picked off.
Nick Bonetti picked off and took to the house.

Speaker 2 So was that a pick six? Was that technically an interception? It might have been a fumble. Like a backwards pass or backwards fumble that went 30 yards in the air? I don't know.

Speaker 1 It was weird.

Speaker 2 So what would the score of that game have been if Jonathan Taylor?

Speaker 1 20 to 7.

Speaker 2 It would have been 20 to 7 at 12. 20 to 7.
Way down.

Speaker 1 20 to 7

Speaker 1 in the start of the third quarter. And they were still leading in the start of the fourth quarter.
But, yeah, that was their season, too. That was the Colts season.
It's all over now.

Speaker 1 They're pretty much on the outside looking in.

Speaker 2 I think 6% to get in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you just don't have any excuse for that because it was just, I don't know how you do that. It was so, so monumentally stupid in that moment to drop the ball.

Speaker 1 And by the way, the Broncos. Broncos are one of the best stories in the NFL right now.
So this is from Zach Bayh.

Speaker 1 The Broncos came into the season with a win total set at 5.5%, a roster ranked dead last by PFF,

Speaker 1 absorbing the largest dead cap in NFL history and the least thought of rookie quarterback. And they just secured their first winning season since 2016 and have a playoff probability north of 90%.

Speaker 1 They're the best story right now in the NFL in the fact that no one expected the Broncos $90 million in dead cat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Sean Payton was, I think we all thought he might have lost the touch last year with how that season went. And he's still a really, really good coach.

Speaker 1 And Bonix is, even though he didn't play great today, is a baller. And yeah, the Broncos, like, that's 2016, that was the last time they had a winning season.

Speaker 2 I would say probably the Broncos is a franchise that wakes up today, the fan base, and just looks at the playoffs and they deserve it. And they're like, look at that.
They never.

Speaker 2 We're the sixth seed right now, baby.

Speaker 1 This was going to be, going into this year, a true rebuilding, see what you got in your rookie quarterback type of year. And now they're sitting here with nine wins after week 15 in the sixth seed.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 their defense is good. When Bo Nicks is playing well, like he, again, again, he had three picks today.
It was windy.

Speaker 1 We'll say that. It was windy.

Speaker 1 But, yeah, I just can't get over how bad the Colts blew this game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was bad. It was very bad.
Benito, was that his second pick six of the year?

Speaker 2 He does the hold my dick jumping in the end zone. Yeah, he got a flag.

Speaker 2 The ref had the flag out of his pocket while the hand was still on the dick jumping into the end zone. But yeah, if you're a Broncos fan, just spend all day Monday looking at the standings.

Speaker 1 Just looking at the playoffs. And I'm happy the Broncos are like back in the playoffs and back to winning football because they're a fun franchise.
They're like,

Speaker 1 I don't know. They had the longest time where they were just consistently there.
And then they've obviously had a really bad nine years.

Speaker 1 But now they're back, and the future is bright. And it feels good to be a Broncos fan.

Speaker 2 It does feel, you look back at that loss against the Dolphins. That was the bottom.
That was the tournament.

Speaker 1 That was it. Yeah.
That was literally the bottom.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. $90 million in dead cap.
That's crazy. And it's just a bunch of young dudes and Sean Payton showing everyone that he can still coach his balls off.

Speaker 1 That, yeah. Fuck Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 Badger. That was tough.
What do we do with Anthony Richardson?

Speaker 1 I feel like Colts fans are starting to be a little more aware. And again, I've liked a couple of the things he's done, game-winning drive against the Patriots, game-winning drive against the Jets.

Speaker 1 He just can't consistently be accurate.

Speaker 2 I mean, the Colts have a very rich recent history of hiring like the least mobile old-ass quarterback in the NFL. Yeah.
So Flacco, Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers,

Speaker 1 the traditional Sean.

Speaker 2 Who can fill that void

Speaker 2 as a bridge?

Speaker 1 Jameis. Jameis.

Speaker 1 He's mobile. Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, I'm saying, but like Jameis would actually be a good fit.

Speaker 1 I have a question for Colts fans.

Speaker 1 Chris Ballard, I don't know the

Speaker 1 in and outs of the Colts franchise. That guy feels like he's had a job for way too long.

Speaker 2 All I know about Chris Ballard is that he is maybe the leading recipient of the Dan Dockich My Ass tweets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but doesn't it feel he's been the GM for what feels like a very long time, and

Speaker 1 it just doesn't feel like the Colts are ever going, they're never, they're always like right around that middle ground, but they're never going forward.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I get a feeling like Ursay is not a fan of cycling through his right-hand men. Yeah, but it might be time to keep those guys around.
It might be time.

Speaker 1 And I don't know what to do with Anthony Richardson. I mean,

Speaker 1 I just don't know what to do. You just can't.
Like, again, there was a lot of guys. He does.

Speaker 1 It feels like his receivers let him down a lot, but he also will have multiple times a game where it's like, oh, here's a 10-yard out, and I'm going to throw it 15 yards over the guy's head. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I do like the idea of Jameis.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 The game's on at noon on Saturday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a game on at noon.

Speaker 4 That's weird.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 4 Saturday at noon is like not a holiday. It's just bizarre.
Saturday night.

Speaker 2 You don't watch college football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a new.

Speaker 4 Well, no, college football, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 You don't watch. Well, yeah, there's always games on at noon on Saturday.

Speaker 4 No, I'm saying college, no sh.

Speaker 2 They're doing big noon kickoff on Saturday.

Speaker 1 But Penn State's playing at the same time.

Speaker 4 That makes sense. It's college football.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Which NFL game, too.

Speaker 2 They had to do it. Chiefs Texans.

Speaker 1 They had to do it because they're making them play four days later on Wednesday. Got it.
So the four teams that are playing on Saturday play again on Wednesday.

Speaker 4 Got it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I don't think they wanted to make either of those teams play late on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 It's pretty crazy that

Speaker 1 they're having to turn around and play that. Like the three games in 10 days.
Yeah. All because we need football on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 Well, because we needed to take over the NFL or the NBA on Christmas.

Speaker 1 I mean, we've taken over the NBA.

Speaker 1 That's been done.

Speaker 1 That's.

Speaker 1 We could just play replays on Christmas and probably still win that battle.

Speaker 2 That's a good idea. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Eagles 27, Steelers 13.

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Speaker 1 Max, how was your weekend? Broke my foot.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Broke my foot. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Listen, sometimes

Speaker 1 you get out of a car and you break your foot.

Speaker 1 That's facts.

Speaker 1 Wait, so

Speaker 2 you broke it getting out of the car or going to it?

Speaker 1 It's so true. So relatable.
Getting out of the car. I slipped.

Speaker 1 It was a rainy night. Were you drunk?

Speaker 1 Very much so.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 2 Which is a problem.

Speaker 1 Wine drunk? Wine drunk. Oh, no.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You were overserved.

Speaker 1 What time was this?

Speaker 1 Like 11. Oh.

Speaker 2 It's pretty early to be wine drunk. I know.

Speaker 1 We had a birthday party during the day. Shout out Quiggs.

Speaker 1 And then we went from that into

Speaker 1 a dinner where Jack McCarthy and I just had too much red wine.

Speaker 1 So it's Jack McCarthy's fault.

Speaker 4 It's Jack McCarthy's fault.

Speaker 1 What's the exact prognosis, diagnosis?

Speaker 1 I have a Jones fracture in my left foot.

Speaker 2 Did any famous Philadelphians have that same? Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons.
But he's okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No. He turned out fine.
So are you going to have surgery?

Speaker 1 Excuse me. He's still drunk.

Speaker 1 The doctor today said that I probably will not need surgery. So my friend Dr.
Dan did tell me that they'll tell anyone who they don't deem an athlete that they don't need surgery. Correct.

Speaker 1 So you're good. You're an athlete.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not an athlete. I do not want to get the surgery.

Speaker 2 I mean, how are you going to pitch?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's...

Speaker 1 That's a problem. That's a problem.

Speaker 1 That's a problem.

Speaker 2 They're going to have to have you out there in a wheelchair. That's a problem.
Like George H.W. Bush at the Astros game.
That's a problem.

Speaker 1 That's a problem.

Speaker 1 Walk me through waking up this morning because I still don't. We spent all day together.
I still don't think you fully have it's registered in your head how awful this is. No, yeah, this is terrible.

Speaker 1 This is so, so, so, so, so, so bad.

Speaker 1 Uh, I woke up this morning, honestly, kind of forgot about it, got out of bed to

Speaker 1 take a piss,

Speaker 1 and the battle to get to the bathroom was one of the most difficult things I've ever done. Oh, my God.
And then

Speaker 1 I ended up sitting and peeing.

Speaker 1 And then I just sat there for an extra like 10 minutes because I was like, I can't,

Speaker 1 like, I'm dreading getting up and getting back to this, getting back to this bed. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, you couldn't even put any pressure on you.

Speaker 1 Zero weight. Zero weight.
Oh, the Joe's fracture.

Speaker 4 Is it like, is it black and blue?

Speaker 1 And it wasn't as swollen as you would have thought. Or as I would have thought.

Speaker 2 It'll probably be worse tomorrow.

Speaker 1 But I can't even look at it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so it would be.

Speaker 1 It might be swollen right now. I have to go to a foot doctor at some point this week, like a specialist, to look at it.

Speaker 2 How many foot doctors have you seen in the last eight months?

Speaker 2 This will be. Do you have a frequent flyer account at the time? This will be my third, I believe.

Speaker 1 So you're going to be.

Speaker 1 Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 The foot specialist, I think, will give me more information. We need to get you in a boot.

Speaker 1 Once you're in a boot, you'll be fine. My toes are so cold.

Speaker 1 My toes are cold.

Speaker 2 So the very first year of part of my take, that fall, I had the exact same thing happen where I was stepping off of a curb after it was my buddy Quigs' birthday party, and basically Jack McCarthy forced me to drink wine, and I fractured my foot, got the Jones fracture.

Speaker 2 You're going to go to a doctor. They're going to x-ray you.
They're going to hopefully put you in a boot, And then they're going to check you again in a couple weeks to see if it healed.

Speaker 2 And if it doesn't, then you have to get the surgery. And then at that point, you're off it for like two months.

Speaker 1 Did you get the surgery? No. I did have the surgery.
I do not want the surgery. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Anyone out there?

Speaker 4 That was when we checked him out. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Just tell me I don't need to get the surgery. Okay, but

Speaker 1 I need you to be okay for Super Bowl. No, I think.

Speaker 4 I'm going to be like Lieutenant Dan on bourbon. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank wants me scooting around bourbon shit. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, Max, you in a wheelchair, if the Eagles are in the Super Bowl, going to the game in a wheelchair.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 It would be. And guess what? We got you a wheelchair.
Yeah. We got you a joystick wheelchair.

Speaker 1 I wanted to get you one with the straw. That's

Speaker 1 crazy.

Speaker 2 A motorized wheelchair. How sick is that going to be? That'll be cool.

Speaker 1 That'll be cool.

Speaker 1 What, Max? Last question. How worried am I about being fat? No, how much.
That's not what I was going to say. I was going to say, how fat are you going to get? So

Speaker 1 I need to just not eat. I'm just not going to eat food.

Speaker 2 Have you thought about the showering situation? Because

Speaker 2 you're going to be taking some SpongeBash, buddy.

Speaker 1 I think I'm going to be taking real baths with my foot out of the path.

Speaker 2 But how about the fat?

Speaker 1 I am so, so, so worried about that.

Speaker 4 How are you going to get it?

Speaker 1 I don't even want to think about that.

Speaker 1 It's all gross.

Speaker 4 If your foot is elevated and you're in the bath, how are you going to get out?

Speaker 1 That's a great point, Henry. Yeah.
It's a great point.

Speaker 2 Here's what you're going going to have to do, Max.

Speaker 2 You're going to be sitting on the edge of the tub with a garbage bag tied around one of your feet, and then you're just going to take a washcloth and just wash yourself with a rag.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yep.
You're going to get so fat.

Speaker 1 I'm just not going to eat. I don't know how that, how does that, you're going to eat? I'm just not going to eat.
At all. Yep.
No eating. Salads.
Just salads. What if you lost weight?

Speaker 1 There's no way.

Speaker 4 Calors in, colors out.

Speaker 1 What about shake weight? You could do it. I need to figure out how.
You could curl, you could bench. Yeah, no, I'm still going to do some upper body, but that's not really like burning calories.

Speaker 2 You know, if you do it fast enough, the problem with that, Max, is you're going to do like arms workouts and you're going to get sweaty, and then your foot's going to sit.

Speaker 1 Can you stop?

Speaker 1 You guys just keep bringing up things that are going to suck for me. It's reality.
I'm worried about the plane.

Speaker 1 I have to take...

Speaker 1 You get to use a wheelchair.

Speaker 1 You don't have to go to any weddings. I got a wedding next week in New York.
So I have to go to Philly.

Speaker 4 You won't split your pants dancing.

Speaker 1 I have to go to Philly, take a train to New York, take a train back to Philly, go to Hilton Head, and then come back to Chicago all within the next three weeks. How good on Crushes? Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Bad, really. Bad.
Really, really.

Speaker 4 Like, shockingly bad.

Speaker 1 I almost slipped

Speaker 1 walking here. Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, it was a good idea. And that's bad because every time you put pressure on that foot, you make that fracture worse.

Speaker 1 Also, the elevator to my parking garage is broken right now.

Speaker 1 I just. I feel really bad for you.
This is the worst, like, it's one of the worst times to do it. Like, right before the holidays when you have to travel and like

Speaker 1 you're also going to have like time off and you're just, you can't do anything.

Speaker 1 Nothing. Nothing.
Except eat. Nope.
Not going to eat. Salads.
Salads. Salads.
Salads. You can drink.

Speaker 2 You can drink a lot.

Speaker 1 Shrimp. I got some shrimp cocktail today.
That was nice.

Speaker 2 You're not in danger of falling down, so you can get as drunk as you want. Can you get a DUI in a wheelchair?

Speaker 1 You ordered shrimp cocktail. Yeah, what? Yep.

Speaker 1 I got a steak salad and shrimp cocktail

Speaker 4 for lunch today.

Speaker 1 All right, the game. Eagles dominated the Steelers.
The Eagles are so good. The Eagles dominated the Steelers.
We had

Speaker 1 one of, so the Eagles, I think the, what was the stat? Oh, 401 yards to 163. The Eagles' defense is ferocious.

Speaker 1 And we had one of the all-time, what the fuck is he doing moves by Mike Tomlin today because the Eagles, the Steelers couldn't do anything offensively.

Speaker 1 They were down 27-13 with 10-40 left in the game and 4th and 7 on the Philly, 46, so plus territory. And Mike Tomlin decided to punt, and they never got the ball again.

Speaker 1 10-40, and they never got the ball again. The Eagles went on a 21-play, 88-yard drive.
They never got the ball.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they started with 10 minutes, 29 seconds left, and

Speaker 2 they picked up 12 on third and 13.

Speaker 2 They

Speaker 2 converted a fourth and one. They converted another third down.
21 play, 88 yards, 10 minutes, 29-second drive at the end. The decision to punt was

Speaker 2 just unreal in real time as you're watching it. Like, what the fuck are you? You're down by two scores.

Speaker 1 Why are you kicking the ball away?

Speaker 2 You're down 14 points. You're in plus territory.
Mike Tomlin, why is this even a thought that you would consider?

Speaker 1 It was something that we were saying. This is so stupid.
While it was happening, little did we know that they would never get the ball back.

Speaker 1 Like, we thought it was stupid because they were going to punt and maybe get the ball back one more time. They punted and they never got the ball back.

Speaker 1 And the Eagles, the Steelers had two possessions in the second half. Two.
Two possessions in the second half. And the Eagles' defense is awesome.
And Jalen Hurts, he answered all the critics.

Speaker 1 He threw the ball well today. He had

Speaker 1 AJ had eight catches, 110 yards in a touchdown. Devontae had 11 catches, 109 yards in a touchdown.

Speaker 1 We also had the anecdote from Jay Glazer, which made me laugh, that in a team meeting earlier this week, Brandon Graham apologized for his radio comments, and then Jalen Hurts and A.J.

Speaker 1 Brown dapped each other up in front of the team to show that everything is good. That's good.
That's great.

Speaker 1 They literally got in front of the team, and they're like, watch this.

Speaker 2 So they're friends.

Speaker 1 They're friends. Did you see their touchdown dance? Was it cool?

Speaker 2 Are they best friends?

Speaker 1 They might be back to best friends. They dapped each other up in front of the entire team.

Speaker 2 What a good moment that must have been.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. Yeah, see, look at this touchdown dance.
So fun. They don't look like they're in sync.

Speaker 1 They didn't practice that. That was like, we got to do a touchdown dance to make everyone think that we did a touchdown dance together, but it's not.

Speaker 2 No. Here's what happened.
Here's what that happened with that. Jalen, he texted AJ

Speaker 2 a YouTube link to say, hey, this is the dance that we're going to do together. And then they both learned it at their own houses.
Yeah. And then they did it together for the first time right there.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But the Eagles are back. 10 in a row.
Statement win against a very good defense.

Speaker 1 And now the one seed is right there, Max. And it is pretty crazy to think about the difference in.
The Eagles welcoming a Minnesota Vikings or Detroit Lions or them having to go on the road.

Speaker 1 But the Eagles might be just good enough to beat all of them.

Speaker 2 I think the Eagles are very, very, very good right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, they're the most complete team in the NFC.

Speaker 2 Is Dickerson hurt?

Speaker 1 I don't know if there's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you need him not hurt.

Speaker 2 I mean, it does matter, but today it did not matter because you were able to do that drive without one of your best players.

Speaker 2 Also, Kenny. Kenny Gainwell.

Speaker 1 He was great today. Yeah, he was great today.

Speaker 2 He was a great team of his entire career today.

Speaker 1 I was happy for him. Yeah, no, it was a dominant effort by the Eagles, and the Steelers, I don't know.

Speaker 1 This is why I've always been a little bit half in, half out. I know George Pickens is in there, but their offense,

Speaker 1 it doesn't feel explosive, and it doesn't feel like it can get you out of a game like this.

Speaker 2 When Najee fumbled that pitch,

Speaker 2 it felt like the game was over.

Speaker 1 But even the way they, like, the only reason it was a close game was you had Cooper Dejine fumbling that punt.

Speaker 1 And, like, other than that, the Steelers never sustained anything that felt like they were threatening. No.
And I just don't know. And now TJ Watt might be hurt.

Speaker 1 So he left the game with an ankle injury. I think it's just a sprain, which is good.
But I just walked away being like, the Eagles, I'll say it. The Eagles are the best team in the NFC.

Speaker 1 After today, they are.

Speaker 2 With the injuries in Detroit, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think they probably are. They are.
They're the best team in the NFC as of right now. I changed my opinion when the Vikings beat the Bears by 100.

Speaker 2 Are you worried about Jalen Hurt's broken ring finger?

Speaker 1 It's his non-throwing finger. Oh, okay, so no problem.
And he threw today.

Speaker 1 Isn't that weird that he just needed to be called out to actually throw?

Speaker 1 Yeah, 290, two touchdowns, 125 quarterback ratings. Great game.
Are you worried at all that Nick Siriani's grown back his hair a little bit and they have not lost a game since he shaved his head?

Speaker 1 Do you think he needs to reshave his head? Only if you lose. You keep it going

Speaker 1 until you lose.

Speaker 2 We talked about that. Then he shaves it and then you start winning again.

Speaker 1 His beard looks horrendous today, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But Nick Shiriani has been really good.

Speaker 1 Everyone gave him a bunch of shit in the beginning of the year, as they probably should have, but he's adjusted, and he's done a really good job with this team.

Speaker 1 And it wasn't even like a Saquon is the best player in the league game. So he still feels like the Eagles had something left in the tank.
I just think their defense, I mean,

Speaker 1 the drafting all Georgia players is starting to work wonders because Nicobi Dean is awesome.

Speaker 1 And obviously, your guys on the defensive line, Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter. I mean, Nolan Smith is really also really coming into his own.
Yeah, so Max, you got to be thinking Soupy or bust.

Speaker 1 100%. 100%.
Anything less than a Soupie is a disappointment. Winning a Soupie or giving to a Soupie? Winning a Soupie.
Got to win a Soupie. Winning a Soupie.
Got to win it. Must win.

Speaker 1 I don't know why you guys wouldn't. I mean, you have everything.
It feels like you have everything.

Speaker 2 Must win. How do you feel about Kicker?

Speaker 1 Kicker had a better day today. He did.
He didn't have to kick anything over 50.

Speaker 1 He made a 49er. 49er didn't count.
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's not 50, though.

Speaker 1 It's not 50. It's close.
50's in his head. That's for sure.

Speaker 1 Okay. Anything else in this game? Yeah, I don't know.
The Steelers are, if the Steelers can beat the Ravens, then it doesn't feel like the Steelers might be

Speaker 1 not fading, but like

Speaker 1 they have to play the Ravens, and then they have to play the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 and if they lose those two games they're going to now be a road playoff game to start and it's it definitely feels a little different well Pickens being out makes a big difference oh for sure their offense just goes back to what it was before Russia when you don't have him in there it just becomes find a tight end hopefully run the football try to and then maybe convert like a three-yard out yeah and with Pickens in there they're they throw the ball down the field they push it Russi does his moon balls without him in they're again back to being very boring to watch without Georgie.

Speaker 1 We'll see what happens with the Ravens game on Saturday. That's a massive, massive game.

Speaker 2 But the Steelers, they are built to beat the Ravens.

Speaker 1 Yes, no, absolutely. If there's one team that can beat the Ravens, it's the Steelers.
We know that for a fact. Lamar struggles with the Steelers.

Speaker 1 It's just crazy how hard their schedule is down the stretch. Like the fact that they're going Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs, and then a Bengals team that could be still alive.
Yeah. Who knows?

Speaker 1 Okay, last game, best game. Bills 48, Lions 42.

Speaker 1 This was a Josh Allen masterclass. He was on fire.
I mean,

Speaker 1 every single time he touched the ball, it was basically a touchdown.

Speaker 2 He's a tough motherfucker, too. He gets hit so hard.
Yeah. He just bounces right up from it.

Speaker 1 He is. Josh Allen is now the first player in NFL history.
to have 35 or more passing slash rushing touchdowns in four consecutive seasons.

Speaker 1 Pretty crazy. Yeah,

Speaker 2 it was an awesome game today. Not a lot of defense being played.

Speaker 1 Not a lot of defense.

Speaker 2 The Lions got a couple more injuries on their defense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Lee McNeil and Carlton Davis is bad.

Speaker 2 They can't really afford having any more injuries on their defense, but they got him. And then Dan Campbell, I don't know what he was doing with the on-side kick.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 With what, 12 minutes left in the game? 10 minutes left. 10 minutes left in the game.
That made no sense to me. And they asked him about it afterwards.

Speaker 2 He's like, yeah, I kind of wish that I hadn't done that at the time. The recovery rate's, what, like 7% for an on-side kick?

Speaker 1 So I would understand it if you could still surprise on-side kick. Yeah.
Because the idea is our defense can't stop them at all. Yeah.
Like the Bills came into this game.

Speaker 1 They were up 14-0 in the blink of an eye, and they were going right down the field, doing whatever they wanted. If you could do a surprise-on-side kick, you're like, hey, our defense can't get a stop.

Speaker 1 Let's try to catch them off guard. The fact you can't do a surprise on-side kick anymore makes it really the dumbest thing you could possibly do.

Speaker 2 It really made no sense. It was very, very stupid.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Matt Collins returned it to like the five-yard line.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then they tried to do an on-side kick to get the ball back one last time at the end, and that was a way better on-side kick. That one almost worked for him.

Speaker 1 Well, and the Lions pointed first, so I thought they had gotten it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they did a great job of really good job of pointing first.

Speaker 1 If you point first, I'm just going to always assume that

Speaker 1 you recovered it.

Speaker 2 This was such a cool game, not only because there were so many points scored, but also everybody out there is in fantasy playoffs. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And having like all the stars get yards and get points all at the same time, that fourth quarter felt like it was going to last forever. Yeah.

Speaker 2 When like every league was still like up in the air at that point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, Jared threw five touchdowns. He spread it around to everyone.
Yeah. He's making sure everyone got a touch.

Speaker 1 But I just, I mean, I said on Friday, I was like, I love this spot for the Bills. And I know, listen, the Lions are very injured.
It sucks. I don't know what you want.
Like, I feel bad for Lions fans.

Speaker 1 It sucks that they have this many injuries. I think this is going to be a very, very big problem getting into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Like, when they're in there, playing a game where their defense i i feel like their defense hasn't gotten a stop in forever at this point and uh it's just it's a problem they they no team has ever given up 45 points at home in the regular season and went on to win the super bowl yeah so losing two more cornerbacks bad bad spot and a lean mcneil yeah that's that's i mean he's very very important but yeah and listen the bills have defensive uh injuries as well their defense has gotten gashed the last two games but Josh Allen is playing at such an insane level that it hasn't mattered.

Speaker 1 I guess it mattered last week because they lost the Rams.

Speaker 2 Because this is like the best Josh Allen that we've ever seen.

Speaker 1 He just, everything works. And it's just every

Speaker 1 when he just gets, all he has to do is just hike the ball.

Speaker 1 And it's like, either someone's going to be open, or he's going to run around long enough that someone won't be open, or he'll just run for a touchdown.

Speaker 2 And James Cook looked good today. Yeah.
I feel like they're getting James Cook going. They were saving him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That was the theory.
What do you have? You have all the. I mean, the Lions are just ravaged by injuries.
It sucks. It sucks.

Speaker 1 This is the shitty part of the NFL, that you could have everything set up for a dream season, and then you get the wrong guys injured, and you're just stuck with a defense that can't stop anything.

Speaker 1 So I don't know. I mean, if they can figure out a way to hold on to that one seed, that would be obviously massive because they would get the buy, but also having to play these teams at home.
But

Speaker 1 I don't know if they're going to be able to win out. I don't know.

Speaker 2 If you thought that Dan Campbell was reckless with fourth downs earlier, now that he's got all these injuries, he might not punt for the rest of the season.

Speaker 1 He might cut the punter for another defensive player.

Speaker 2 Yeah, sorry, Jack Fox, thank you for your service. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I was in. I mean, the Bills are,

Speaker 1 I don't want to get ahead of myself, but the Bills are legit, legit. And they're...

Speaker 1 I mean, we'll see what happens in the playoffs because we know the Bills' history in the playoffs, but Josh is playing out of his mind.

Speaker 2 I went into today thinking, like, Super Bowl preview in this game. Now I'm like, yeah, Bills could definitely make the Super Bowl.
Lions, I'm not confident.

Speaker 1 It's just their defense is just, it's so, it sucks. It sucks a lot that their defense is this many injuries and it's fallen off this much.

Speaker 1 And their offense is still elite and still, I mean, that pass to Dan Skipper was sick. And Jared was hitting big, I mean, Amon Rau scored, what, like a 60-yarder.
But,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Sad for the Lions that their defense got the way. Listen, their schedule isn't, it's all gonna come down to week 18 for them because they play the Bears next week.
They're gonna kill us by 100.

Speaker 1 And then the Niners, who might, who knows where the Niners are gonna be at, is a franchise at that point.

Speaker 1 And then week 18 against the Vikings could be for the one seed, could be for the two seed, could be for everything.

Speaker 2 I feel bad now about the Lions.

Speaker 2 Feel very bad. I've been super high on them all season, even when they had a lot of injuries.
Now they've just got like their morgue.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's tough.

Speaker 1 Max, you got your wish in the fact they took another loss.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but still work to be done. Still work to be done.
They do play all their games at home. Yeah.
Today at home?

Speaker 1 Today at home. They played at home.
All right. Last game we're going to talk about Sunday night football at all.
I think the big story is Geno Smith might be out for a while because he left the game.

Speaker 1 With a knee injury. Packers looked awesome.
Packers are a problem. The NFC playoffs are loaded.
Yeah, the Packers looked good.

Speaker 2 Really good.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Seahawks, they didn't even look that good when Geno was in the game.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Geno was just like drifting back and sacked a lot. The offense looked disjointed.

Speaker 2 The defense did not look.

Speaker 2 They're like a very schizophrenic defense, too. Yes.
They can look very good.

Speaker 1 I bought into the death zone.

Speaker 1 Death zone got me. And then Josh Jacobs showed up in the first drive and just ran it down their throat.

Speaker 1 Let's do a quick.

Speaker 1 I mean, in the NFC,

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 six,

Speaker 1 five out of seven teams, are you saying that you can't win the Super Bowl or get to the Super Bowl PFT?

Speaker 2 I'm saying that I cannot win the Super Bowl this year. Get to the Super Bowl.
Get to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Can you get to the Super Bowl? Let's see.

Speaker 2 Can I answer that question after next weekend against the Eagles?

Speaker 2 Because right now the answer is no. Okay.
But I reserve the right to change that if we somehow beat the Eagles.

Speaker 1 But the Lions, the Eagles, the Bucs, the Rams, who are now at the four seed because of the Seahawks loss,

Speaker 1 I mean, the Rams are a problem for me big time.

Speaker 2 The problem with the playoffs is you don't get to beat any bad teams in the playoffs. So that's where I think we might run into a small issue.

Speaker 1 A tiny issue.

Speaker 2 A tiny issue.

Speaker 1 If you play the Panthers in the playoffs, it'd be awesome.

Speaker 2 That could all change.

Speaker 2 If we beat the Eagles next week, if we beat the...

Speaker 2 The Falcons are above 500, right?

Speaker 1 I got to be able to. What's the reference about the Rams?

Speaker 2 Are they one game below? Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 What? Say it against the Falcons. I think it's Eagles

Speaker 4 and then a big cluster.

Speaker 1 You think it's a big cluster after the Eagles? Yeah. Because the Bucs, the Rams,

Speaker 1 the Vikings, the Packers. Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, the Vikings and Packers are both very good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I think the Eagles are a slight step above. Max, I might.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I might have to lose my pinky if the fucking Rams.

Speaker 1 The Rams are scary.

Speaker 1 Rams are scary the Rams are scary we we smoked the Rams in LA okay you're right you did you smoked the Rams in LA that made me feel a lot more confident yeah my my NFC power rankings are Eagles one

Speaker 2 Vikings two

Speaker 2 Packers three

Speaker 1 Lions fourth Bucks fifth I'm not gonna dump the pa the the Lions all the way the lions just the Lions just beat the Packers yeah they beat them twice yeah but now they're so banged up they can't get a stop on defense yeah I'm still gonna I'm still gonna going to keep the Lions at second

Speaker 1 until we play out the strength, just because they deserve that and their offense is still elite. Yeah, I'll still say that the Lions are the team I'm still most scared of.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 For sure. Yeah, I mean, their offense is insane.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would say Lions too, and then it's like the clump of Vikings, Packers,

Speaker 1 Rams, Bucs.

Speaker 1 I don't know. All those teams.
They're fucking good.

Speaker 2 Do you have the commanders in last place in your NFC playoff pack i probably do yeah that's that's fair i probably do they could beat like the bucks they won't play them but well we lost to the bucks

Speaker 1 they won't play them that is the last team that we beat in the playoffs was the bucks 2006 yeah it's the first year of a rebuild i would put us there's nothing there's nothing to be ashamed of oh i'm not ashamed you guys could win a playoff game i'm not saying that you can't i would put us above the seahawks Yeah, well, Seahawks aren't in the playoffs right now.

Speaker 2 Right now, they're not. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, yes, you are above the Seahawks. Absolutely.
You're above the Seahawks, you're above

Speaker 1 the Panthers, you're above the Cowboys, you're above the Giants, you're above the Bears.

Speaker 2 Cowboys beat us,

Speaker 1 okay? Maybe not the Cowboys, you're above the Saints, Cardinals, Cardinals, Niners, yep, love it. A lot of these teams, a lot of these teams.
Yeah, Seahawks. Do we have an update on what Gino?

Speaker 2 I thought it was his ankle, knee, maybe?

Speaker 4 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 But that just changes everything if he's out.

Speaker 1 Because he's like, the Seahawks are, like I said, if the playoffs started today, they wouldn't be in it. Just it happened just like that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 Who's Back of the Week? Hank.

Speaker 4 My Who's Back of the Week is LeBron James.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he is back.

Speaker 1 Is he back? Oh, yeah. Where was he?

Speaker 4 No one knows. People, there's rumors that

Speaker 4 so he left the Lakers a few days ago. They were asking J.J.
Reddick. He said he doesn't really know.

Speaker 4 And there was, you know, internet rumors circulating that he was maybe getting arrested, that he was disappearing. He was never coming back.
He was retiring. It was very odd, to be honest with you.

Speaker 4 And then Sunday comes around and he gets reported that he's with the team, shoot around, comes out, plays tonight, played really well,

Speaker 4 had some explosive plays, a couple chased down blocks, a couple dunks in traffic.

Speaker 4 I saw one tweet that said, you know, the time that he was gone is just enough time to go to Germany, re-up on some, you know, PED

Speaker 4 and come back. I'm not saying that's what he was doing, but it was weird the way it was, you know, he left.

Speaker 4 And with LeBron in the media, they, you know, will talk about him non-stop, and it kind of got swept under the rug. So it was strange, but he's back, and all is well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he just left. He's done this before,

Speaker 1 He did it in Miami. I know that for a fact.
Maybe the Germany thing. But it is weird.

Speaker 2 The problem is that LeBron James has his own little media ecosystem that's right around him. Yeah.
And so they're people that have proven loyalty to LeBron's people. Right.

Speaker 2 And so they will not put out anything that's bad about him if

Speaker 2 he's not around.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 What do you think is going on, Hank? It's weird.

Speaker 4 I have no idea.

Speaker 4 I really don't, you know,

Speaker 4 I'm not an investigative journalist. I was getting DMs and random, like, someone got my number.
I don't even know who it was, texting me and being like, LeBron just got arrested, report it.

Speaker 4 And obviously, it's a random number. I'm not going to report that.
And I got DMs being like, you know, he's... Who knows? It's all conspiracy shit.
So it's like, I have no idea.

Speaker 4 I literally have no idea. It makes no sense.
All I know is the fact that

Speaker 4 the way it was under-reported is odd.

Speaker 2 If LeBron got arrested, somebody would have leaked that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Teams.
Obviously. TMZ.

Speaker 4 Yeah, obviously. No, he didn't get arrested, but the whole thing is just odd.
It's weird.

Speaker 1 It's weird, and I would love to know, like, do you think JJ Reddick's having fun?

Speaker 4 Do you think he knows and has to pretend like he doesn't know?

Speaker 4 The way he responded seemed like he actually didn't know.

Speaker 1 I think he doesn't know. Right.
I don't think LeBron tells anyone.

Speaker 2 There also is a chance that there's something going on with his family. True.
Sure. So we don't know.

Speaker 1 We don't know.

Speaker 4 But like you would think he would say, you know, I got some stuff going on. Just telling people I have some stuff going on.
Yeah, right. No one's that night.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, I have stuff going on with my family. I'm not going to be here.
Yeah, I feel like JJ probably is not having the best time

Speaker 1 right now.

Speaker 4 Also,

Speaker 1 did you guys see the

Speaker 1 NBA? The NBA ratings are not doing well.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 1 Time for a change.

Speaker 2 Maybe different color balls.

Speaker 1 Maybe different color balls. Maybe

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know what the the answer is.
I still like playoff basketball. The season is very long.

Speaker 2 I've got an idea.

Speaker 2 What if the players really cared?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That'd be good.

Speaker 2 They could try that.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the answer is, though.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 1 are you a little salty that the ratings are down when the Celtics are going to be?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I knew that. I knew you were going to be.
In this era,

Speaker 2 who even notices?

Speaker 4 I'm as tuned in as I ever have, though.

Speaker 2 But it's tough to watch.

Speaker 4 It's tough to watch, meaning like it's hard to find the games. Like you have to have a bunch of, you know, they have

Speaker 4 all these games and all these different apps. I think it's the same with the MLB

Speaker 4 where it's like

Speaker 4 you can't just turn on the TV and watch a game. You have to, you know, sometimes you have to log into this app to watch it or log into that app.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was watching it in the metaverse on Saturday. That's sick.
It was awesome. Joelle Embiid, I saw him fall down in the metaverse.
I felt like I was there for it.

Speaker 1 Oh, how are we doing on the 10-win hunt?

Speaker 1 Dead. Everyone's hurt.
Yeah. Wait, what happened to Joelle?

Speaker 2 And Bede.

Speaker 1 Wait, did Jared Cain, though, didn't get hurt, did he? Yep, dead. Oh.

Speaker 4 Max gone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Max. You just did it in solidarity, huh?

Speaker 2 He has Sympathy Foot.

Speaker 1 Sympathy Foot, yep, correct.

Speaker 2 So is Joelle, is he out for a while?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 He got a sinus fracture. Fracture.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Tom Wilson came back and played, scored two goals.

Speaker 1 A sinus fracture.

Speaker 2 Same injury. Sounds very painful.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hey, I love that Hank is salty about this. This is great.

Speaker 2 Well, Hank also said

Speaker 2 Hank told me that he thought when he first read the report that Joelle Embiid was out indefinitely because he had a sinus infection. Oh,

Speaker 2 which would have been, that would have been very funny.

Speaker 1 That would have been very funny. Yeah.
If he just needed the little netty pot, whatever the fuck it is.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's just going to blow his nose. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good.
Who's back? I don't know where LeBron has been.

Speaker 2 I'll tell you what will say to the NBA.

Speaker 1 Cooper Flag. Yeah.
Cooper flag. Cooper flag.

Speaker 1 It is like they're, I feel like they're at a little bit of a crossroads because

Speaker 1 they got, like, the stars of the league are old.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the league has been LeBron James. Right.
For, what, 21 years? Right.

Speaker 1 And you got to, like, LeBron. I mean, I don't know.
Let me look at the standings. But LeBron, like, the Lakers are the 10th seed.

Speaker 1 If you think about, like, the biggest stars, the Steph and the Warriors are, what, the eighth seed?

Speaker 1 So, yeah, it's, I mean, KD's the sixth seed it's it's hard when the the biggest stars you need a new new age it's analytics I blame analytics that too three-pointer

Speaker 1 dunks should be three

Speaker 2 that'd be sick that would be nice dunk should be three

Speaker 2 that would be awesome what if they in the NBA Cup they just got rid of the three-pointer

Speaker 1 yeah But imagine if they made dunks threes, everyone was just trying to fucking yam on each other constantly. Yeah, that would be sick.
That would be sick.

Speaker 1 Okay, who's your who's back, PFT?

Speaker 2 My who's back of the week is America because the Army-Navy game. Went over.
Went over. Yes.
A lot of points. Throwing the ball a little bit.
That was a fun game to watch.

Speaker 1 It was very fun.

Speaker 2 It was a good time.

Speaker 2 And also, I like it when rivalry games happen like this, when one team is... Obviously, when it's Army-Navy, it's up in the air no matter what, but it's kind of like Michigan, Ohio State.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Where it was like, okay, Army's having their top year this year, and then Navy goes in and just smashes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was also.

Speaker 4 It would have been great if Army had made the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. I mean, the people who are saying that Army should have made the playoffs, that's a tough take.

Speaker 2 But that would be a very funny thing to wake up to on Sunday morning.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because Navy was just the better team for the entire game.

Speaker 2 But it was awesome. It was a fun game to watch.
And I like the fact that it's its own thing. Yeah.
There's no other games on.

Speaker 2 I'm glad that, like, if the NFL was in charge of college football, they would schedule a new weird round of the playoffs for that same day as Army Navy.

Speaker 1 All right, Mike, who's back is Chicago Cubs because we got Kyle Tucker. Big.
All right. For one year.
Huge. And then we're not going to pay him.
Huge. But one year is going to be sick.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just want to watch someone who actually can threaten to hit home runs on a consistent basis, and he can do that.

Speaker 1 And also, the Yankees wanted him, but the Astros wouldn't trade it to him.

Speaker 2 Are the Yankees back, too?

Speaker 1 Yeah, who'd they get?

Speaker 2 They got Williams.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to get Cody Bellinger.

Speaker 2 They got a closer, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think they're going to get him.

Speaker 1 They traded for Devin Williams. They also signed Max Freed.
Yeah. They're going to try to get Cody Bellinger, I think.

Speaker 1 Which, if they want to trade Luis Gill for him, I'd do that.

Speaker 1 The Phillies also tried to trade for Kyle Tucker. Yeah.
The Astros said no. He's awesome at baseball.

Speaker 1 That actually makes me feel bad because I feel like the Astros are like, well, the Cubs won't be a problem.

Speaker 2 Yeah, why did they say no to the Phillies?

Speaker 1 Because they said no to the Yankees. They said no to the Phillies.
The Cubs, sure. Yeah, sure.
They won't pay him in a year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But one year of

Speaker 1 maybe winning more than like 83 games. That's kind of fun.
I'm excited about it.

Speaker 1 I wanted something. I wanted them to show a little life of like, hey, we can actually do something.
Again, they probably won't re-sign him, and that will make me even more mad.

Speaker 1 But at least it's going to be fun.

Speaker 2 You want to be in a playoff chase. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I want a guy who the opposing pitcher fears.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Kyle Tucker. It's nice.

Speaker 2 It's good to have at least one of your teams be in the mix for something. I don't have any.

Speaker 1 Yeah. At all.
Even close.

Speaker 2 The Cubs, I feel like the Cubs could be in the mix.

Speaker 1 Probably not, though.

Speaker 1 Probably not.

Speaker 1 Probably not.

Speaker 1 All right. Anything else? Good show, boys.

Speaker 1 Anything else? Max? Do we have to feel bad for you? I feel really bad. Oh, Max, are you going to cut out the lottery ball today?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Sorry to everyone.

Speaker 2 Cut out the lottery ball. TD Parlay hit.

Speaker 1 The lottery hit. TD Parlay Parlay hit.

Speaker 2 TD Parlay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Ho-ho.

Speaker 2 Did I get it?

Speaker 1 You did not get it. That was memes.
Memes was sabotaging lottery ball. Max, Max, Max called me.
Like, obviously, I understand people like it. It's part of the show.

Speaker 1 But it was on the YouTube and the Rumble, so you could have watched it. Like, it was documented.
It just got cut out of the podcast. But I did appreciate Max's remorse when he called me

Speaker 1 on Friday morning. It sounded like he was going to cry.
He's just like, I don't know what happened. I don't like fucking up.
I don't know what to do. I don't know what to happen.
I got karma.

Speaker 1 I got punished for my actions on Friday. That doesn't feel like a fair punishment.
I lost a foot.

Speaker 1 Losing a foot off of screwing up the lottery ball. All right.
Well, this is going to be in there, right? This will be in. All right.
Numbers. Memes, have you gotten this before?

Speaker 2 I did not win this. No, you never got it.

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