Nick Foles In Studio, Week 15 Picks And Preview With Bonus Hank Conspiracy Corner, TNF Clunker + Fyre Fest of The Week

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Super Bowl MVP Nick Foles in studio. Don't shake your head, Hank.

Speaker 1 Great interview with him. Awesome time.
Great dude. We're going to do week 15 picks and preview with a little special conspiracy

Speaker 1 time with the Jets Jets Jags.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, December 13th. And boys, that was a tough, tough watch.

Speaker 1 And PFT, you should be nervous, and I should be nervous because the Rams are now eight and six.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the game was terrible. Terrible.
It was a bad game. It was raining pretty hard for the first half, but it looked like neither team could, they couldn't get the ball going on the ground.

Speaker 3 They couldn't get the ball going in the passing game. Nothing happened in the first half.
Nothing. That's like the first game that I can remember where absolutely nothing happened in a half.

Speaker 3 Puka Nakua made a good catch. The camera misidentified a player as being Trent Williams.
Yep. That might have been the highlight of the first half.

Speaker 1 That might have been it.

Speaker 3 Just looking at the TV and being like, hey, that's not Trent Williams.

Speaker 1 The first quarter specifically went three plays punt, four plays punt, five plays punt, three plays punt, three plays punt, three plays punt, punt. Six.

Speaker 1 This is going into. Wait, we started the game one, two.
Oh, I guess there was a field goal in there. But one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten punts.

Speaker 1 Ten punts and one field goal was the start of the game.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 when I watch games like this, especially in prime time, because if it's on a Sunday and it gets swallowed up by the rest of the slate, you can overlook it.

Speaker 3 But if it's a primetime game like this, I look at watching it like we're making a deposit into the future football bank. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That money is going to go ahead and make money. You don't always see medium returns on your investment.
But I know if I watch enough games like that, then I'm going to watch.

Speaker 3 If you don't love me at my 49ers Rams, you don't deserve me at my Bills Rams.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That was, I mean, it it was bad.
It was bad. I mean, we had, yeah, the Lions Packers game last week was great.

Speaker 1 This just happens late season, Thursday night football, just a little bit of rain, fucks everything up. We also have to have a conversation about Brock Purdy.
We should probably walk back.

Speaker 1 Well, you know what? I'm not going to walk it back because last year he was playing like a top-five quarterback, but there's been talk about him getting an extension.

Speaker 1 I know a lot of guys are hurt, but how much can you pay Brock Purdy knowing that he's a good quarterback? He's not in the level of make everyone better quarterback.

Speaker 3 I think he is. I think he had a very bad game tonight.
Like, he looked stupid and shitty tonight. That's my opinion.

Speaker 1 That last throw was so bad.

Speaker 3 He was stupid and shitty in one throw. It was dumb to throw it, and it was a bad pass.

Speaker 3 I think he's still a very good quarterback.

Speaker 1 You think he's? Give me a number.

Speaker 3 How much I would pay him?

Speaker 1 I mean, 60 has been floated around.

Speaker 3 It's not my money.

Speaker 3 60 a year? 60. 60 what?

Speaker 1 I think it was

Speaker 1 60 was floated around.

Speaker 1 What was the number? Do they want to know the number? I have a question for you. Yes.
If he was in the NFC East, would you want

Speaker 1 a rival team to sign him long-term?

Speaker 3 Good question.

Speaker 1 $65 million a year was the super pool.

Speaker 3 I have a question for you, Matt. Holy shit.
Would I want the Giants to sign Brock Purdy? Yes, I would.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but if he's on a team that's got weapons, I guess Malik Neighbor's pretty good. But if he's on a team that's like, if he's on a good team, he can be a very, very good quarterback.

Speaker 3 We've obviously seen it from him.

Speaker 1 But that's the point that once you pay them, then you have to. Actually, I don't get the cap.
I don't get the capital. No, the cap makes no sense.
The cap doesn't exist.

Speaker 3 I think you make kind of a valid point, though, which is like if he's not on a team with good players, then he's not like a difference maker that can take a team to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 The projections that I'm reading right now,

Speaker 1 there was a report: 60 a year. That's insane.
You can't pay Brock Purdy 60 a year. A year? A year.
Again, all these things are like fake money, but

Speaker 1 because you don't know how much is guaranteed.

Speaker 3 Cap is going up.

Speaker 1 You could just be like, we're going to pay him 60 a year, and then you can cut him after a year. Hank,

Speaker 3 how did you think that salaries were broken down?

Speaker 1 You thought it was just 60 total? Yes.

Speaker 3 Just give him $60 million.

Speaker 1 You're a quarterback?

Speaker 4 For like five years.

Speaker 1 So you're $60. $60 for five five years? For Brock Purdy? I would do that in a second.
I would do that in a second. Yeah, no, I think it's got to be more in like the 30s.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 He's not.

Speaker 1 Brock Purdy?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 1 this is the conversation that's going on.

Speaker 3 I mean, we've seen Brock Purdy be a good football player.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very good at times. But it's also when all his guys are healthy and everyone else is very good at it.
Also, the thing with Debo Samuel, my ass.

Speaker 3 The thing with Brock Purdy is John Lynch kind of owes Brock Purdy.

Speaker 1 He can't play like that. No, but

Speaker 1 think about it.

Speaker 3 The move that John Lynch made on draft day to move up, get Trey Lance.

Speaker 3 He's not talked about as being one of the bigger draft busts of all time.

Speaker 1 He just needs more snaps.

Speaker 3 But the fact is, Brock Purdy saved John Lynch's ass by being good with the very last pick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know what they're going to pay him.

Speaker 1 The Niners need a full reset, though, I feel like. This was the game.
If they win this game, they're like, all right, maybe we'll make it the playoffs. I don't think they're making the playoffs.

Speaker 1 What are the odds? Can we get the odds up?

Speaker 1 You have us watching some stupid show right now on this they're not going to make the playoffs certainly we're watching a show we're watching a happy holidays show maybe this game just taught us that trend williams was the most valuable player of this team and brandon iuk and less than one percent chance and a four and a and a what what's less than for the nine oh the nine and uh

Speaker 1 trent williams is very important brandon ayuk's very important debo samuels four years ago was very important

Speaker 1 or i mean even last season christian mccaffrey is very important very very important i they're gonna have to make some hard decisions

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 shed some of these guys. So we're less than 1%.
What about the Rams? Because the Rams, let's talk about the Rams.

Speaker 1 The Rams, credit the Rams, they've won games in very, I mean, you can't win games in two different ways than what they did against the Bills four days ago, five days ago, in that shootout where they scored 44 and then figure out a way tonight to grind it out and win a 12-6 game where it felt like nothing was happening.

Speaker 1 Cooper Cup, did he have a catch? I know he didn't have have a catch until going into the fourth quarter. I don't think that he did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, Puka Nakua had a couple of big plays, but they, you know, that was a gutsy, find-a-way-to-win, tough, tough game for the Rams, and now they are 8-6.

Speaker 1 They play the Jets. They play the Cardinals.
They play the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 Again,

Speaker 1 I'm the biggest Commanders fan in the world now because

Speaker 1 this is.

Speaker 1 Well, Hank, too. Hank has a strength for him.
I can't have the Rams in the playoffs. No.

Speaker 4 The Rams have a 48% chance right now to make it to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And what are the Commanders at?

Speaker 4 The Commanders.

Speaker 1 That was current if win

Speaker 1 jumped up to 50 from 48. Oh, Max.

Speaker 1 The way Max said 50 there, he's so excited. Well, that was also like it went from 48 to 50.
It wasn't like a game.

Speaker 4 The Commanders, if they win on Sunday, have an 86% chance. Okay,

Speaker 1 I can't control my own destiny.

Speaker 4 If they lose 57.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. But there's no way.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
Jacob.

Speaker 4 There's literally no way.

Speaker 1 All right, yeah, we're going to get to that.

Speaker 1 We talk about it in the preview, but

Speaker 1 oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I can't have the Rams in these playoffs.

Speaker 3 Max, you would still rather play, you'd rather play the Rams than the Commanders?

Speaker 1 I mean, the Rams.

Speaker 4 Which world are we in?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I might paint myself green if the

Speaker 1 Rams.

Speaker 4 That's actually a fair question.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say this.

Speaker 1 Say it. Who would you rather play?

Speaker 1 That game we just watched, I didn't watch a game that had been like, holy shit, I don't want to play this team. Yeah.
No,

Speaker 1 that was the worst football game ever. But

Speaker 1 the Rams do deserve credit for finding a way to win that game because it was ugly. It was terrible.
And the Rams horrendous.

Speaker 3 The Rams did look much better in a very, very shitty game than the Niners did.

Speaker 3 I said it during the game, but if that was the first game ever played of football, they would never play a second game of football. Maybe this is solid.
Maybe like this sport is not good.

Speaker 3 Let's retool, get back together.

Speaker 1 We're playing rugby now. Maybe this is a solution because Al Michaels is back for another year.

Speaker 3 So they announced that this week.

Speaker 1 He's back for another year. Really? Yeah, he's year to year.
Listen,

Speaker 3 I've had my sword out for Al Michaels the last two seasons. I don't know if I've got a sword.

Speaker 1 Hold on, PFT. Maybe the solution is they just have to guarantee that there's no touchdowns scored on Thursday night football because Al Michaels was not a problem tonight.

Speaker 1 He matched the energy perfectly. Yeah.
Like he was the perfect announcer for this game.

Speaker 3 When he's annoyed at an appropriate time, then it's okay. But I can't do another season of defending Al Michaels.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I just can't do it.

Speaker 1 What were you looking for?

Speaker 3 My men are tired.

Speaker 1 Do you have anything for us?

Speaker 3 Oh, I thought you had one other thing for us looking up.

Speaker 1 What are the chances? Oh, no, the Niners really did one.

Speaker 3 So wait, what are the commanders at right now, Max?

Speaker 4 78%.

Speaker 1 78. Okay.
That's good.

Speaker 3 You guys are acting like that. Wait, Max, you never answer the question.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. You never answered the question, Max.

Speaker 4 The playoffs start tomorrow.

Speaker 1 In this world, I would like the Rams. But in the real world.
In the real world, I would like

Speaker 1 it the same world. But see, Hank doesn't get it.
Because Hank never loses the big game. He always wins it.
Hank.

Speaker 4 Who the fuck is the guest on this show today, dude?

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 Hank. Nick Foles on the show, and Hank had to leave midway through.

Speaker 3 Once he started talking about the Super Bowl, Hank gets up. Watch for this in the YouTube.

Speaker 1 He took his headphones off, and he was just going off what Nick Foles was saying by like my reaction.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he was getting angry, and I was looking at him.

Speaker 4 He was like, oh, can't hear. Everyone was acting like the fucking president was here.
It made me sick.

Speaker 3 You and Hank are pretty much the same person, Max. Did you know that?

Speaker 3 Like, deep down in your core, you're the same guy.

Speaker 4 Also, Bruins lost game seven like two years ago.

Speaker 1 Oh, Hank, don't even. I saw you retweet that

Speaker 1 horrendous, horrendous stat of all the time. I want Chicago to be good.

Speaker 1 That's that is insane. It was insane.

Speaker 1 It was honestly, though.

Speaker 4 I read it as a good thing because the tides have to turn.

Speaker 1 It was I want

Speaker 4 Chicago is a very fun city. I love living in Chicago.
Great sports town, passionate fans. They deserve better.

Speaker 1 Here it is, and I'm going to give you guys some guesses. So, this is from Jay Kuda.

Speaker 1 So, in the last seven years,

Speaker 1 he did a combination of wins, playoff wins per city,

Speaker 1 last seven years.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 Boston has 133 wins between their four teams in the last seven years. Philly, 72 wins.

Speaker 1 The Bay Area, which has five teams, 81 wins. Phoenix, 38.
Atlanta, 38. Atlanta only has three teams.
Denver, 94. Tampa, 83.
Toronto, only three teams.

Speaker 4 Doesn't Tampa only have three, too?

Speaker 1 Tampa has three teams, 83 wins. Toronto has 51 wins.
They have three teams. How many playoff wins do you think the city of Chicago has in the last seven years? Five teams.
By the way,

Speaker 3 five teams. So the Blackhawks, none.

Speaker 1 The Cubs,

Speaker 3 this does not count

Speaker 3 2016 or does it?

Speaker 1 It does not. Okay.

Speaker 3 So none for the Cubs then.

Speaker 3 None for the White Sox.

Speaker 3 The Bears

Speaker 3 don't have any either.

Speaker 1 You're off on a couple.

Speaker 3 Wait, does a play-in count?

Speaker 1 Play-in counts.

Speaker 3 Okay, maybe it's five.

Speaker 1 Four.

Speaker 1 The answer is four. The White Sox have two.
The Blackhawks have one. The Bulls have one.

Speaker 1 So shut the fuck up, Hank.

Speaker 1 Max, I got your back.

Speaker 1 He doesn't understand.

Speaker 4 All right, but again.

Speaker 1 You couldn't take Nick Foles sitting in here.

Speaker 4 The fact that you want to play

Speaker 4 the Rams, Super Bowl champion Rams, stud quarterback, great coach.

Speaker 1 What year are we in?

Speaker 4 No, like they've won a Super Bowl recently.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like

Speaker 1 they have a Super Bowl. Three years ago.

Speaker 1 But like Aaron Donalds.

Speaker 4 Same coach, same quarterback.

Speaker 1 Aaron Donaldson is very important.

Speaker 4 Same coach, same quarterback.

Speaker 4 That's the

Speaker 1 same core. Okay.

Speaker 1 Or the most dysfunctional franchise of all time with a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 1 Hank. And you're taking the Rams.

Speaker 3 Hank, three Super Bowls, okay? Joe Gibbs.

Speaker 1 I don't want to lose

Speaker 1 again to another

Speaker 1 person on this podcast in the playoffs. I've done it to you twice, and it's the worst feeling.
You don't understand how how bad the feeling is

Speaker 1 when you lose to somebody in this podcast in a playoff game. He doesn't.
He does not.

Speaker 4 He's wrong, Jake Marsh.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 You got you there.

Speaker 3 Gotcha.

Speaker 1 Either way,

Speaker 1 the Niners are dead. It's over.
Reset, everything.

Speaker 1 It's over. And then the Rams, we got a Rams problem on this podcast.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a big Rams problem. We got a Rams problem.
I'm knee-deep in the Rams right now.

Speaker 1 I'm with you. I'm a brother-in-law.

Speaker 3 You've got a great coach. And somebody sent this scenario to me.
And

Speaker 1 the more it plays. This is sick.
It's perverted. This person goes to jail.

Speaker 3 Disgusting. Pre-crime.
They should be arrested and prosecuted. There is a scenario that is looking more likely.

Speaker 3 I don't want to say it's probable, but the scenario is out there, and it's talking to me every day. That week 18.

Speaker 1 Hank is so hate. I want to take off your pants.
I'm excited. I'm very excited.

Speaker 3 I need to beat the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 or maybe it doesn't matter if I beat the Cowboys or not, but the Commanders' playoff chances come down to the Bears beating the Packers.

Speaker 1 When PFT told me that, I was like, dude, that sucks. And he's like, no, I'll root for the Bears.
I'm like, no, no, we won't beat the Packers.

Speaker 3 It's a scenario that's out there.

Speaker 1 There's no screen.

Speaker 3 And that's all I'm going to be thinking about.

Speaker 1 It would be...

Speaker 1 The worst scenario ever because there's no chance.

Speaker 4 Is it separate time? They don't do that.

Speaker 1 They don't announce it till before. But

Speaker 3 I think if the Bears lost that game,

Speaker 3 that might be the top part of my take.

Speaker 1 There's not an if, PFT. They're going to lose that game.

Speaker 3 If you lose by like 45 points to the Packers again,

Speaker 3 and then that knocks me out, and then that makes Hanks bet win, and then Max is happy.

Speaker 1 That would be real sick if it, like, if the market is.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 not 45.

Speaker 1 One. If it came down, it would be really sick if it was

Speaker 1 like all the tiebreakers, then it came down to point differential.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Packers won by like 50.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we're rooting in the fourth quarter because the Packers are only winning by 40 points.

Speaker 1 And the Bears have four yards.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and then the Packers score a meaningless touchdown on the last drive. You just got to be.

Speaker 4 Don't send me that.

Speaker 1 I want to try it. No, don't.

Speaker 1 I need to send it to me.

Speaker 3 Do your own homework. Okay.

Speaker 4 Someone send me the notes.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, we got the rest of week 15 picks and preview.
That game sucked. I am impressed with the Rams just because if you could win both, again, if you win those two ways in five-day span,

Speaker 1 that's, I mean, they weren't the problem tonight. The Niners were the problem.

Speaker 3 Yeah, somehow Sean McVay looked less wet than Kyle Shanahan, and he wasn't even wearing a hat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kyle Shanahan had that hood up where it's like, I want to be anywhere but here.

Speaker 3 McVay was just gliding between the raindrops.

Speaker 1 Someone asked him if he wants to leave again tonight because I know he said no after he won by a million.

Speaker 3 Better weather in Chicago.

Speaker 1 Listen, you don't have to pay Caleb Williams for a few years. Brock Purdy's got to get paid right now.

Speaker 1 Right now.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to ourselves. Picks and preview, Nick Foles, and then Firefest.

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Speaker 1 Okay, boys, week 15, and we have no more buys, and we have maybe the grossest early slate and just an incredible treat in the afternoon with all the games that have, I mean, the early slate has some games that have playoff implications, but it's a lot of good team, bad team matchups.

Speaker 1 The late slate is everything.

Speaker 3 The late slate is maybe the most perfect part of an NFL Sunday that we've had all season.

Speaker 4 You'd rather have it better late than early, though, right? Like, you'd rather have this be this way than if you reversed it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, shout out to people that go to church. They're going to get back, have great NFL matchups ready for them.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 This might be the slate of the year. The afternoon slate, week 15.

Speaker 1 Church normally ends before.

Speaker 4 Yeah, church is like 10 a.m. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Maybe if you got the way you guys worship, maybe.

Speaker 1 What time did you go to church?

Speaker 3 I went to Quaker meeting. That was a little bit more relaxed.
Would you be hungover, stumble on in?

Speaker 1 I went to 11.30 Mass, but it would be done at 12.30 and

Speaker 3 you'd be home by the one. What time do games start in Central Time Zone next?

Speaker 1 Well, 11.30 is East Coast time.

Speaker 3 I think they're at 10.30 and they schedule church for football.

Speaker 1 Do they? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Smart.

Speaker 1 They should.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's multiple masses, you know? Yeah, there are. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that's the setting for this weekend. We've got to get through the early slate.
We just got to get through the early slate.

Speaker 1 First up, let's do some games. First up, Chiefs at Browns.
Browns plus four over, under, 43.5.

Speaker 1 The Kansas City Chiefs are in a seven-game against the spread losing streak, which is pretty crazy.

Speaker 3 It is.

Speaker 1 Especially because they are 11-1. Yeah, well, maybe they're 12.
No, 12-1. Are they 12-1? Maybe 12-1.

Speaker 3 They're just perfect at not exerting themselves too much. They don't waste any energy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they don't waste any energy. They're 12-1, and they've lost seven games against the spread in a row.

Speaker 1 Basically, they're testing everything where it's like, we're going to be so great, but also anyone who's like, you don't get rich betting against Patrick Mahomes. Actually, you do this year.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's been the year to do it. Yeah, I just want Jameis to play well enough in this game that he doesn't get bitched next week.

Speaker 1 I I agree with that.

Speaker 3 Because next week, it will be Browns-Bengals, and I just want to see Jameis Winston and Joe Burrow duel it out.

Speaker 1 I want to see 85 points. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think Jameis is going to be okay. The Chiefs' past defense.
The Chiefs have a couple problems. Their offensive line's a problem.
Their past defense is a problem.

Speaker 1 Their past defense, since Jalen Watson, one of their great defensive backs, went out for the season, is 28th in EPA. So Jameis might be able to cook.

Speaker 1 And also, DJ DJ Humphreys is already questionable. So he had a hamstring issue.
So they might be back to like, holy shit, we're shuffling along the line.

Speaker 3 Did they get that MRI back? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they got it.

Speaker 3 I know that Andy was waiting on that.

Speaker 1 The MRI. The MRI.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's like, I'm waiting on this MRI.

Speaker 1 We ordered an MRI.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so we'll see what happens with that.

Speaker 3 I like what the Browns did this week. They cut Kadarius Toney, which is smart.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's addition by subtraction.

Speaker 3 It also tells me that they probably asked Kadarius Tony, hey, can you give us any information about the the Chiefs' playbook? Realize that he had absolutely no help on that regard.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And they're like, well, that's really the only reason why we're hoping to have you around this week. Yeah, we'll see you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like the Browns in this game.

Speaker 3 Do you like them straight up?

Speaker 1 I don't know if I like them straight up. Also, another stat that might be pro-Jameis.
The Chiefs are third fewest in the league in takeaways. So they've only had 10 takeaways this year.

Speaker 1 Not turning the ball over on opposing offenses that much. Maybe we know he's been.
Jameis has been. so he had the game against the Broncos, pick six after pick six.

Speaker 1 He asked the Lord to deliver him from pick sixes against the Steelers. No pick sixes.
Did throw two picks. Maybe the final iteration is no picks.

Speaker 3 No picks this week. I don't know.

Speaker 3 I wouldn't mind if he had, like, I don't want Jameis to throw no picks. That means he's not taking enough chances.
True. I want full-blooded Jameis.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we need full-blooded Jameis.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know which Jameis we're going to get this week.
It could be good, could be bad. I'm hoping for good.

Speaker 1 I'm hoping for great.

Speaker 1 Browns against the spread not a bad play browns straight up i don't know it's up to you i don't know well here's the thing too is this is probably the best game in the early sleek just because it is the chiefs and it's jameis yeah like this is the game that uh i'll be watching the most i would say for ball knowers this game should catch your eye yeah this game this game will be will be the best so i i will have something for this game um what do you say hank i know no one cares about your fantasy team but i do i am wrestling between patrick mahomes this week and jayne daniels and I, this game could mean a lot for me if I go with Patrick Mahomes, but I don't.

Speaker 4 It should, yeah. What do you guys think?

Speaker 3 I think that's a man's fantasy questions are between him and Lord.

Speaker 1 I want to answer this, but I got a buy in both my leagues. Okay, thanks.
I mean, well, actually, no, I have my the big league, I don't have a buy, but that Ebo and Bluttman are going to handle that.

Speaker 1 Say the question again. I got you.

Speaker 4 Jayden Daniels, Patrick Mahomes. Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 1 Easy.

Speaker 1 No question.

Speaker 3 Just in general or this week?

Speaker 1 Because I would say this week in fantasy.

Speaker 3 Okay, this week in fantasy guy.

Speaker 1 This week in fantasy, that's, yeah, Jaden Daniels, for sure. Smart man.
I mean, Mahomes

Speaker 1 could do great, but like.

Speaker 4 I've done that too many times where I'm like, it's Mahomes, and he just sucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I think he's going to, I think the Browns' defensive line is going to be all over him. So I, like, they haven't been able to protect him.

Speaker 3 Have they been saving Kelsey for the playoffs?

Speaker 1 I thought so, but also they, yeah, maybe they have.

Speaker 1 That's what we, we have to give them the benefit of every single doubt that i don't think the chiefs are bad i'm not one of those they're just lucky i've we've said this before i think that the chiefs the the the championship dna they have andy reed patrick mahomes they're a type of team that if you make one mistake they will capitalize on it and they will make that into winning football i'm just more pointing out that like

Speaker 1 the if you're a chiefs fan you know there's holes like the secondary's been struggling the offensive line's been struggling can they can patrick mahomes overcome all of that probably maybe you probably he probably still can.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I like that the Browns are live here. Okay, next game.
Bengals at Titans. Titans are plus five and a half over under 46.
All the lines on DraftKings.

Speaker 1 Does the words Brian Callahan revenge game mean anything? A little bit.

Speaker 3 Well, maybe not because him and Zach Taylor are like best friends.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So Callahan would say that like after losses, I think actually it was the other way around.

Speaker 3 I think Zach Taylor was saying after losses, the only people that hit you up are like your wife and maybe like one of your parents hit you up.

Speaker 3 But apparently, Callahan would hit him up after every loss, too, and know exactly what to say. So these guys are like very, very close friends.

Speaker 3 So I don't know if revenge is going to be the right thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So there's maybe

Speaker 1 a little bit of a

Speaker 1 hybrid revenge. I love this guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's an I love this guy game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Joe Burrow got robbed when he was playing Monday Night Football.

Speaker 3 That fucking sucked. Yeah, so there's a criminal syndicate out there that is targeting players based on their Monday night football schedules.
It's nuts. And then just invading their homes

Speaker 3 while they're known to be away. I feel bad for Joe.
I feel bad for Joe. He said his privacy has been invaded in more ways than one.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 I won't touch on the other part. I'll just say that Joe Burrow is so handsome that literally everyone finds him attractive.
Yes, regardless of your sexual orientation.

Speaker 3 That's just a good-looking human.

Speaker 1 That's a good-looking human and a cool dude. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like the Bengals just because the Titans are so bad.

Speaker 3 Have the Titans given up?

Speaker 1 I don't know if they've given up. I don't know if they're good enough to,

Speaker 1 like, if they were trying their hardest,

Speaker 1 I don't think it would look good anyway.

Speaker 3 What would be worse if this was them trying their hardest? Right. The last two weeks, the loss against the Commanders and then losing to the Jaguars,

Speaker 3 would it be worse if they were trying their hardest in those games? Or would it be worse if they were just kind of giving up on this?

Speaker 1 I think it'd be worse if they're trying their hardest, and I think they still are trying their hardest, and it's so bad that it looks, it masks as giving up.

Speaker 3 I feel like everybody except Calvin Ridley is trying their hardest. Calvin Ridley kind of gave up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, but it's, it's bad.
The Titans are really, really bad.

Speaker 1 And the Bengals are alive-ish.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 3 we're going to keep doing it.

Speaker 1 Listen, if the Bengals, they get to play the Broncos.

Speaker 1 If the Colts beat the Broncos this weekend, and then the Colts lose a couple games, the Bengals are, they kind of start not controlling their own destiny, but they have at least a little more say in their destiny than they would otherwise.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I want the Bengals to keep winning.

Speaker 3 Just because it'd be great going into the last couple weeks of the season if they were still theoretically alive.

Speaker 1 It also would just be a great playoff, like it would just bolster the playoff matchups if we're like, oh, first round is Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 I mean, Bo Nicks would be awesome, too. So I'm not, we got good options, but the Bengals, at least we know they are statistically, or technically still alive and still playing for something.

Speaker 1 They sure are. And they're doing the whole, I'm I'm sure they're doing the playoff start now speech.

Speaker 3 Where's the ping pong table at?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 That's going to be key for me.

Speaker 1 The playoffs start now.

Speaker 3 Every game is a must.

Speaker 1 Every game is a playoff game for them. And they still might not even get in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 This is super, super wild card weekend.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
Commanders at Saints. Saints minus seven and a half.
Over-under is 44. PFT, I think this is going to be a whomping.

Speaker 3 It should be a whomping.

Speaker 1 Can I give you some confidence?

Speaker 3 Well, so my first question is, because I don't know. I haven't seen anything out there about this.
Are we getting Spencer Rattler on the Saints, or are we getting Jake Hayner on the Saints?

Speaker 1 I don't think it matters because I have some things that are going to maybe fill you up with confidence. The first is: Jaden Daniels is 7-1 against spread versus teams under 500.

Speaker 1 The Saints are under 500. The second is: here's a list of games, and I want you to tell me what they have in common:

Speaker 1 Bucks 51, Saints, 27, Broncos, 33, Saints, 10, Chargers, 26, Saints 8.

Speaker 3 The overhit in three out of four of those.

Speaker 1 Those were the three games that Derek Carr missed. They got fucking smoked.

Speaker 1 Derek Carr, you can say whatever you want about him, but I think he masks a lot of the badness of the Saints, even though they're still bad with Derek Carr sometimes.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to, they can't, how are they going to move the ball?

Speaker 3 No, Derek Carr and no Taysom Hill.

Speaker 1 Two of those games were no taste of mill. One, you know, they lost by 20 plus.
They lost by 20 plus.

Speaker 3 Yeah, also, Jaden makes his return to Louisiana. Gonna be in the dome.

Speaker 3 I feel like he's fully healed now. I think this is gonna be

Speaker 3 shit. You know what? You know what they're gonna do this weekend? They're gonna turn him loose.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 3 This is the Jaden Daniels gets turned loose weekend.

Speaker 1 Off a bye?

Speaker 3 Off a bye, feeling good, going back to Louisiana, playing. I think this is his first game in a dome on artificial turf because he played in Arizona, but that's grass.

Speaker 1 And he played in Cincy, but that's not a dome.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it is turf, but this is the first combo artificial turf.

Speaker 1 Wow, he's anti-Jared Goff.

Speaker 3 He might be. I feel like this is going to be a

Speaker 3 this could be a whomping. I don't want to get too confident, but it's a must-womp.

Speaker 1 I think there's no thing as like, I think you guys are going to win this game. I feel confident in the commanders, and it's a must-win.

Speaker 3 It's a must-womp. It's a must-womp.

Speaker 1 No, I don't say must-womp. For me, for me, it's a must-what.

Speaker 1 I think it's just a must-win.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so anyway.

Speaker 1 And then you got to look at it over there if the Eagles lose. Then you're starting to think, ooh, next week.
Don't look look in that rearview mirror watch out so watch out buddy i'm not gonna

Speaker 3 don't drop the soap i'm not gonna overlook the saints though uh saints are a good football team i'm just trying to do like coach speak right now yeah you know they're good jake hainer does a lot of good things jake

Speaker 3 he's looked good in some of his uh pictures that he took the official team photos were very interesting that jake hayner took this season uh spencer rattler five-star guy out of high school we know he's got the talent yeah it's somewhere in there alvin kamara i mean what hasn't he done in this league says that's all you you got to say.

Speaker 3 He does it all. You got to just say that.

Speaker 3 They got some playmakers on defense that have been around.

Speaker 3 Good kicking game.

Speaker 4 They pay those guys.

Speaker 3 They pay those guys, too. Being a road favorite like this is still a very unusual sensation for me.

Speaker 3 I don't know how to feel about it, but Marshawn Lattimore should play this weekend.

Speaker 1 Revenge game for him.

Speaker 3 Revenge game for him, which will be nice. And good vibes in the district.
It looks like we're getting RFK Stadium back. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 All we had to do was trade a squadron of F-16s to Maryland for it. Oh, hell yes.
Which is an awesome trade. That's a story that was, I think, only written for me to read.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But yeah, why does Maryland need DC's F-16s? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Are we thinking about naming it RFK Jr.

Speaker 3 Stadium? RFK Junior Stadium.

Speaker 1 That would be kind of cool.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no shots allowed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's some

Speaker 1 dead animals in the end zone. I kind of like that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, put one at midfield. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not bad. Got to play around the whale carcass? Yeah.

Speaker 3 You get brain worms if you play there.

Speaker 1 Hank, have we mentioned any of your Hungry Dog teams yet?

Speaker 3 No. Okay.
So the Saints are not in the Hungry Dog.

Speaker 1 So you're in the clear? Yeah.

Speaker 3 The Browns are not in the Hungry Dog.

Speaker 4 Nope.

Speaker 1 Titans.

Speaker 4 Nope.

Speaker 1 God, no.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
Hank, are you,

Speaker 3 what are your thoughts on this? If the Commanders win, I know you put that bet in for them to not make the playoffs because you're Jake Hater. I did.

Speaker 4 Well, if the Commanders win, my Super Bowl future gets that much better, so I'd be excited.

Speaker 3 I love you, Hank. That's so nice.
That's very nice.

Speaker 1 That's very nice of you. How about this one, Hank? Ravens and Giants.

Speaker 4 There's no way they lose this game.

Speaker 1 Okay, now you're being mean. Further, he went a little further.
Now you're being mean.

Speaker 1 Give me everything you just said.

Speaker 3 Give me Hank's supercomputer projected outcome for this game.

Speaker 1 The things we just said were Coach Speak talking up the Saints.

Speaker 4 You could simulate this game a thousand times. The Saints might win twice.

Speaker 1 Oh. Okay.

Speaker 3 But what's the aggregate projection?

Speaker 4 Aggregate projection 35-7.

Speaker 3 Okay. All right.
So that's.

Speaker 1 That's your statistical model.

Speaker 3 All right. So

Speaker 3 are you taking the Commanders this weekend?

Speaker 1 I mean, that's a pretty powerful model.

Speaker 1 A thousand times,

Speaker 1 the Saints only win twice.

Speaker 4 Seven and a half points NFL team, though, it's a lot. You should just tease them.

Speaker 1 Why don't you throw the Commanders in the Hungry Dog? Yeah, I'll tease them. Why don't you throw the Commanders Moneyline in the Hungry Dog? Just use those Sats.

Speaker 4 That's not how the Hungry Dog works.

Speaker 1 But I mean, you could just, it's just, it's a thousand times they play, only two times they would lose.

Speaker 1 I'll tease them.

Speaker 3 Yeah, if you tease them, what would that be? Seven and a half down to one and a half, yeah,

Speaker 4 yeah, something like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 there's no chance, right? Literally, no chance.

Speaker 3 Well, no, you said two, two out of a thousand.

Speaker 1 I'll hop on that teaser, too. Yeah, just let me know what you want.

Speaker 3 Give me the second leg. Find the second leg for that teaser.
We'll find it as we go through the games. How about that? Yeah.
We'll make a PM tease.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 This is not a teaser game, but Ravens and Giants. Giants plus 16 over-unders, 42.5.
16.

Speaker 3 It's a lot of points.

Speaker 1 The Giants have not been underdogs of double digits in the last 50 years at home. It's a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of points.

Speaker 3 Okay, so this is the centennial season for the New York Giants. It's their 100th season.

Speaker 3 There is a chance

Speaker 3 because their last two home games are against the Ravens and the Colts.

Speaker 3 They're going to be underdogs, I would imagine, against the Colts as well. Yeah.

Speaker 3 If they lose those two games, they will become the first team in NFL history to go 0-9 at home in a single season.

Speaker 1 Damn, that's crazy. You got to redo the centennial season next year.
Yeah. You just got to pretend this season didn't happen.

Speaker 3 Well, because there's no year zero, right? Right.

Speaker 1 So do that. This is also, it's only the 10th time in the last 40 years, 48 years,

Speaker 1 that a road team has been...

Speaker 1 this big of a favorite. It's an insane spread.
This is a college football spread.

Speaker 3 No home team has been this much of an underdog since 2021. You know who it was? The Jaguars when they hosted the Bills, but the Jags won 9-6.

Speaker 1 Oh, I remember that game.

Speaker 3 Who could forget that game?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's... Yeah, I do remember that game.

Speaker 3 Was that like week two or something?

Speaker 1 Was it the week two or was it the last week game? Remember the season... Wait, Jaguars versus...

Speaker 3 Who was it? Jaguars-Bills.

Speaker 1 Bills. Oh, yeah, that was.
Was that week two? Yeah, that was like something, early in the season. I remember that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so we'll see what happens. Tommy DeVito, he's back.
Tommy DeVito

Speaker 1 Talions are back.

Speaker 1 Also, we had a weird story this week that Lamar Jackson shared that his mom was mad at him for not running enough. So he said, My mama just told me that.
She cussed me out.

Speaker 1 This is after the game against the Eagles. I'm mad.
We're going to get after it. I'm not going to lie to you.
We're going to go get after it. I can't wait for this buy to get on.

Speaker 1 We got the Giants coming up. She said, there were lanes I should have taken and ran.
I was just trying to let guys develop routes.

Speaker 1 Yada, yada, yada. He then also had a tweet yesterday that said, I can't wait for the internet to crash.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is that because people were like, hey, your mom tells you what to do?

Speaker 3 I don't know what that was about.

Speaker 1 Why the buddy pregnant? Yeah, why the buddy pregnant?

Speaker 1 All-time tweet. I don't know.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Why was Lamar Jackson?

Speaker 3 I would imagine that most people, most of the feedback Lamar gets online is generally positive.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would think so. Right?

Speaker 3 Unless he's missing a practice for diarrhea. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or losing in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 Or losing the playoffs, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's probably not a good time for him to go online.

Speaker 3 This would make more sense if you tweeted that out in January.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But the Ravens are also prone to weird games.

Speaker 1 But the Giants are really bad.

Speaker 3 That's a good point.

Speaker 1 Counterpoint, the Giants are so, so bad.

Speaker 3 So in their seven home losses, they've been outscored 164 to 71.

Speaker 1 No Dexter Lawrence. They're just so bad.

Speaker 1 They're such a bummer. Are they the worst team? They might be the worst team.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 Titans.

Speaker 1 Titans might.

Speaker 1 I'll say this. Without Dexter Lawrence, I think they might be the worst team.

Speaker 1 I think they would take the cape. So it would

Speaker 1 be between the Giants, the Raiders, and the Titans.

Speaker 3 If Daniel Jones was starting, I don't think that they would be the worst team, though.

Speaker 1 I agree with that.

Speaker 1 It is kind of crazy that he definitely would be... He probably would have found them a win somewhere.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 They're doing elective

Speaker 1 to make themselves uglier right now right um okay

Speaker 1 so uh the next game cowboys at panthers panthers minus three over under 43.

Speaker 3 so the panthers i think we all agree have been playing good football i think if you just look at the pan if you throw away uh everything before andy dalton got into a car accident yep then i think the panthers are like an average team that has actually been trending in a very good direction like an above average team right now they're the one of the bad teams that is still playing really hard and pushing teams to the limit.

Speaker 1 And I was thinking about it, I was like, man, what is this turnaround? Like, you know, Bryce Young obviously has been great.

Speaker 1 There was a report this week that David Tepper has actually taken a hands-off approach to the team.

Speaker 3 Smart.

Speaker 1 So that might be why the Panthers are good again.

Speaker 3 Very smart.

Speaker 1 And good is a relative term. This is the first time they have been favorites in 33 games.

Speaker 3 So I kind of like the Panthers this week. I do too.
I kind of like them straight up. Uh-oh.
I mean, they are. Oh, Hank's going hungry, dog, with the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Gomez, Hank.

Speaker 4 They let down spot.

Speaker 1 Hank, Gomez.

Speaker 3 A letdown spot for the Panthers.

Speaker 1 Listen to you guys. They've lost three in a row.

Speaker 4 But you guys are talking about them like they're a good team.

Speaker 3 That's fair.

Speaker 1 I said relative. I said they're a good team relative to.

Speaker 4 PFT just said above average.

Speaker 3 I think they're playing above average football right now.

Speaker 3 They should have beaten the Eagles last week.

Speaker 1 They should have beaten the Chiefs. They should have been the Eagles.
They went to overtime against the Bucs. Let down.

Speaker 1 But they haven't won those games.

Speaker 4 But they're riding high.

Speaker 1 But they haven't won them.

Speaker 3 Hank kind of makes a little bit of sense. Like, the Panthers, we are.
It's the Panthers. We've never talked about the Panthers.

Speaker 4 It's like Mike Tomlin, Steelers as home underdogs.

Speaker 3 Panthers as favorites. As road favorites.

Speaker 1 But the Cowboys stink. They almost beat the Bengals.

Speaker 3 Well, the Cowboys also have some bad injuries. Yes.
And Overshawn's out, right?

Speaker 1 Yep. And he's out for a while.

Speaker 3 So to me, Overshawn,

Speaker 3 the way that he's played this season, if you compare it just straight up to how Micah Parsons has played this season, Overshawn, I think, has been their best defensive player.

Speaker 1 Kubra Rush isn't good.

Speaker 4 Neither are the Panthers.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 they're playing good ball.

Speaker 4 It's just Panthers Road favorites.

Speaker 1 No, they're not Rode. They're home.
Home.

Speaker 4 Panthers favorites fade.

Speaker 1 You don't want to go into the

Speaker 1 bank, probably?

Speaker 1 Bank of America, I think. That type of bank.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you don't go into the bank like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't do that. You don't go into that bank.

Speaker 3 They're gonna pound that keep pounding drum. Somebody's gonna break that drum this weekend.
That's my call. Chubba Hubbard.

Speaker 1 Memes, what do you got? What's up with the sunglasses?

Speaker 1 So there's a light in there that I guess I haven't noticed till now, and I've just been staring at it. Now my eyes are all fucked up.
You couldn't stop staring at the sun?

Speaker 1 It's literally been there since we've been in this studio. Which light? It's above your left shoulder.

Speaker 3 And you just started staring at it and couldn't stop? Yeah. What are you, moth?

Speaker 1 I was looking at the screen and then I was seeing dots, so now I got some.

Speaker 3 You look ridiculous wearing sunglasses. What light podcast?

Speaker 1 A both. This one? Yeah.
Oh, it doesn't even look like it's on to very bright. Got it.

Speaker 1 It's literally been there since we've started the show. And you just caught eyes with it.
Yeah. And it's just.
It's all I could see.

Speaker 3 Are you still staring at it right now with the sunglasses?

Speaker 1 Is this a rebrand?

Speaker 1 Yeah, make me like PFT. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 You wish.

Speaker 3 You get a lottery ball, maybe. Set myself up there.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you're going to Cowboys. Panthers have covered five straight as well let down

Speaker 1 they've lost three in a row i mean hank

Speaker 3 hank is kind of right in that nobody has talked about the panthers in such glowing terms as everybody's been talking about the panthers recently but that might just be because they've been playing well and we're so shocked that bryce young like it's been shocking yeah because we thought it was we thought we had written the book yeah classy guy very classy that bryce young did you see him he he said a prayer yeah in the game who was it that got injured on the eagles i don't know but there was a guy who got went down down.

Speaker 1 CJ Gardner Johnson went down twice.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it was him, but he said a prayer. Yeah.
I didn't see this. Yeah, you would never do that for an opponent.
No. Yes, I would.
Is C.J. Gardner Johnson okay? I believe so.

Speaker 1 Oh, so the prayer worked.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So, wow, Bryce Young.

Speaker 1 Maybe you should thank Bryce Young.

Speaker 1 Say thank you to Bryce Young. Thank you to Bryce Young.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I have no problem with Bryce Young.

Speaker 3 He's a good quarterback. He thought some prayers do, and it worked.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, next game. Jets at Jaguars.
Jaguars plus three over under 40 and a half. We have said we're not talking about the Jaguars anymore.

Speaker 1 We also said that this would be when Hank can maybe unload some conspiracy theories on us. I also have a very funny anecdote I'd like to share with the boys before we hear from Hank.

Speaker 1 Remember on Wednesday when we were talking about Juan Soto and the fact that Yankees fans are now doing a spin zone where they're like, oh, that guy, he can't even play defense.

Speaker 1 Well, we actually had a similar situation happen for a murder because I overheard Max in the gambling cave yesterday say,

Speaker 1 yeah, I heard actually Luigi is Greek.

Speaker 1 A real thing he said.

Speaker 1 He's like, oh, that's

Speaker 3 his full name, Luigi Mangioni.

Speaker 1 He's Greek. Greek guy.
He's a Greek guy. I saw a tweet.
Okay, but that was an all-time spin zone to be like, yeah, someone told me that he actually might be Greek.

Speaker 3 This guy. This guy right here.
Greek individual.

Speaker 1 Greek and Italians are sometimes

Speaker 1 close. Luigi Mangioni?

Speaker 3 Is Mangioni? Is that...

Speaker 3 What's the country of origin on that?

Speaker 1 Greece. It could be.
You can't find anything. None of these say Greek.
I know. I don't know where I...
It was like an ancestry thing. Wait, what happened to Austrian B?

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 But it's just so funny that Max is like, I've got to move away from this murder. He's Greek.
He's actually Greek.

Speaker 3 Eastern, Eastern Italian, which is pretty much Greek.

Speaker 3 You know, there's countries in between

Speaker 1 Italy. I just never thought that would happen where you get that kind of spin zone where you're trying to disavow

Speaker 1 by changing where he's from.

Speaker 1 Mangioni. All right, so Hank,

Speaker 3 your conspiracy theory. What do you got for us?

Speaker 4 The government.

Speaker 1 All right, good start. Good start.

Speaker 4 They have technology that's illegal to use to track and find someone like Luigi, which they used.

Speaker 1 The Greek guy?

Speaker 4 The Greek guy,

Speaker 4 which they used illegally to find him and then planted,

Speaker 4 you know, they planted all the evidence, the McDonald's worker, the written manifesto to cover their tracks about the fact that they illegally they basically just like

Speaker 4 Edward Snowden type stuff where he uncovered that they were, you know, illegally surveying people and illegally tracking people.

Speaker 4 They basically used that type of technology to find him and then planted evidence that fit the narrative.

Speaker 3 Okay, how'd they know it was him, though?

Speaker 4 They used illegal stuff.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 And then the McDonald's worker, also a government employee.

Speaker 4 The McDonald's worker was a plant, and that's why they're not going to get paid.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, so I did hear that. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 So the person in McDonald's that allegedly called the cops is not going to get whatever the $50,000 reward.

Speaker 3 This is honestly like a low reward for this, but $50,000 reward because they did not call like Crime Stoppers. They dialed 9-1-1.

Speaker 3 What is Crime Stoppers? Crime Stoppers is the company that you call if you see a criminal and they give you money.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so this guy's not, or this man or woman is not getting paid for that because it dialed 9-1-1.

Speaker 1 That makes no sense. It's a loophole.
What do you think about the eyebrows?

Speaker 4 Eyebrows are suspect. There's some pictures where there's a much bigger separation in the pictures they use to try and find him than what he actually has.

Speaker 4 And then I don't know how this connects to the drones, but I'm still working on that. Yeah,

Speaker 1 drones. We need some reports.

Speaker 4 I'm happy we're out of Jersey. I was in Jersey.
I'm happy I'm out of there.

Speaker 1 Those drones are just hovering, huh?

Speaker 1 Someone was like, not to be an alarmist, but I've figured out what the drones are doing, and they're looking for atomic bombs. Okay, not to be alarmist.

Speaker 3 Yeah, not to be alarmist. But the drones, I've heard that they came out of the ocean.

Speaker 3 Somebody, like, in the Coast Guard, said that the drones came out of the ocean, which means that they could be aliens, too.

Speaker 3 And then President Pug was reporting that they might be aliens, but good news, they're aliens that are fighting against other aliens, protecting us from the other aliens.

Speaker 1 So President Pug's got it. By the way, Max is still looking for the Greek thing, and he can't

Speaker 1 kidnap it. You made this up.

Speaker 1 I may have just made this up in my head. I could have sworn it.
The whole time we've been talking, he's been furious. We can see his computer.

Speaker 1 He's been furiously typing in different things in the search bar, being like, Greece, Greek.

Speaker 3 There's just no ancestor. It's like, there's no way that an Italian could commit murder.

Speaker 1 I saw. Does Luigi Mangioni pay his taxes?

Speaker 3 You all hear of Sako and Ansetti?

Speaker 1 I saw like an ancestor.com thing that was just like

Speaker 1 a screenshot of his.

Speaker 1 It could have been any screenshot now that I think about it. I don't.
I'm just going to shut up.

Speaker 3 How about his cousin, though?

Speaker 3 Or not his cousin, his old roommate throwing him under the bus. Dude, his roommate called up, was it the Daily Mail, called up the newspaper and said, yeah, you know, I lived with him for a while.

Speaker 3 His back was so bad that he couldn't fuck. He never had sex because his back was too bad.

Speaker 3 I'm pretty sure that if you are able-bodied enough to get up, go to New York, shoot somebody, ride a bike, get on a bus, go to Altoona, Pennsylvania, you could probably have sex.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd agree.

Speaker 1 There's nothing. Whenever something happens, whether it's a murder, a tragedy, whatever it could be, and you have the

Speaker 1 news the next day and it says former roommate or former friend. I immediately am like, that guy's a scumbag.
Yeah. He literally saw something and was like, oh, ask me about this.

Speaker 1 What the fuck, dude?

Speaker 4 Also, this is just conspiracy theory. I'm not saying I believe this, just connecting dots.

Speaker 4 Diddy allegations come out, bridge blows up, right? Remember that? Could pull out? Jay-Z allegations come out, drones happen.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 So, like, whenever something in the news happens then there will be another news story that happens well there's these elite rings that there are you know the the the elitists and the people in the illuminati they're worried about getting busted and they're pushing the like

Speaker 3 the button distraction button

Speaker 3 and it's like distraction button is drones drones bridge where does mangioni fit into this

Speaker 3 a distraction we just need to send him back to greece was he a distraction from jay-z or was jay-z a distraction from him he was because he because Because Jay-Z happened.

Speaker 1 What is going on with Jay-Z? Can someone tell me? Yeah, Diddy. Yeah, did he

Speaker 3 related allegations? There's a woman that is suing him, so it's a civil case. And the same attorney, David Busby, I think that's his name, Busby, whatever it is.
He's out of Houston.

Speaker 3 He's the same guy that represents all the Deshaun Watson accusers.

Speaker 3 Him and his client have filed a civil case against Jay-Z claiming that he raped like a 14-year-old girl. That's bad.
And then Jay-Z said, like, take my name out of your mouth.

Speaker 3 You're about to find out where I come from.

Speaker 1 Got it. And then Roger Goodell said, we're still doing the halftime show.

Speaker 1 All's good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Roger Goodell would never lie.

Speaker 3 Roger Goodell said, we're going to stick with Jay-Z and wait for all the facts to come out.

Speaker 4 Got it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was yawning, so I asked President Pug to grab me a coffee real quick. Pug, do you have any thoughts on the drones real quick? Do you want to say it in there?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's probably alien i've heard it's aliens protecting from other aliens is what i've heard okay

Speaker 1 got it that kind of wraps it up

Speaker 1 i don't know what anyone else is gonna look for marvel versus dc probably aliens protecting from other aliens that's what i've heard so that's what i've heard read that the whole quote it's good aliens probably good aliens are protecting us okay why do they why do the good aliens wait come back in come back in come back why do the good aliens why why are they protecting us what's in for them are they just nice no Apparently, they've been here the whole time, but just in the water.

Speaker 1 Okay. And then when the bad aliens, I guess, are threatening now, so they came out to protect us

Speaker 3 against the bad aliens.

Speaker 1 So they're our saviors. Yes.

Speaker 3 And how do I tell the difference? If I'm outside and I see an alien, how do I know if it's a good alien or a bad one? That's the scary part.

Speaker 1 I don't think we know. Okay.
Okay. But you know the other part.
Yeah. Because like saying I don't think we know would imply.

Speaker 4 Is this just the plot of Transformers?

Speaker 1 You understand saying I don't think we know would imply that everything else you said before that is like, well, that's facts. Well, we know they're protecting us, but we don't know like

Speaker 3 the war with the bad aliens. Got it,

Speaker 1 got it.

Speaker 3 Okay, we don't know like the result of that yet. Yeah, because it's ongoing.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, keep us updated.

Speaker 3 I'm on whoever's side wins. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 3 Who just said all this stuff?

Speaker 1 Pug. All right.
Thank you, Pug.

Speaker 3 Memes, do you have anything about the Jets?

Speaker 1 We can talk about the Jets.

Speaker 1 I think this is going to be a shit kicking.

Speaker 1 Buy the Jets. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 This is actually my game of the year. Oh.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to take all the frustrations out of this dog shit season onto the Jaguars this Sunday. And that's it.

Speaker 1 I actually don't disagree. And it's also just simple, like Aaron Rodgers versus Mac Jones.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you guys want to hear the sad stat of the day?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Aaron Rodgers averages 260 yards for the next four games.
He'll be the single season passing leader of the New York Jets. Wait, say it again?

Speaker 1 If he averages 260 yards a game for the next four games, he'll be the single season passing leader for the Jets.

Speaker 3 That seems like a lot of yards, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he's kind of in that range. And it's an extra game.
Yeah. Yeah, but still.
Those aren't like the Bears passing sad stats. When they do the thing like the, what is it, 4,000-yard passer?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it's everyone's, it's all the pictures and they're just blank for the Bears.

Speaker 3 Is Galeb on track for that?

Speaker 1 I don't think this year, but next year, yes, he is. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 3 I don't disagree with you. It feels like this is a weekend for the Jets offense to actually do something.

Speaker 1 Well, the Jets' offense hasn't been bad.

Speaker 1 Top five. Top five.
They put over 20 the past

Speaker 1 couple games. Not the offense for Seahawks, but.

Speaker 3 Okay, let's see. The last couple games for the Jets here.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the last couple games for the Jets.

Speaker 1 The Seahawks game, they did not score 21 on offense.

Speaker 1 14. Okay.

Speaker 3 And then you scored 27 against the Colts.

Speaker 1 Was that any? None of that was pick sixes or anything? Nope. All offense, Brees Hall.
All offense, Brees Hall. Okay.

Speaker 1 And then you scored six against the Cardinals. So two out of the last four games,

Speaker 1 the offense has scored over 20 points. They're figuring it out.

Speaker 3 This is actually the last few games of the season for the Jaguars. I know we're not supposed to preview them, but we have a potential narrative that could stick around for a while developing that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 3 head coach of the Jaguars, Doug Peterson, still the head coach.

Speaker 3 If he wins this game, they should fire him because that would put him one game above 500 lifetime.

Speaker 1 Oh, as a head coach. I like that.

Speaker 3 And you don't want to be like one of those statistics where it's like this Super Bowl-winning coach is actually below 500 in his career. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 The nice thing to do for the Jaguars would be to fire Doug Peterson with a win.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fire him after a win. Let him get above 500.
They're not going to win this game, though. Memes is right.

Speaker 3 I think Memes is right, too. Okay, Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Memes is always right. Dolphins and Texans.
Texans minus three. This is the last game of the early slate.
This one actually has some playoff implication because Texans are 8-5 off of by.

Speaker 1 Dolphins still technically alive. So Texans minus 3, over-under is 46.5.

Speaker 1 Can I point out one thing?

Speaker 1 Because Tua has been hurt this year, we haven't been able to do the like, hey, Fraud Dolphins thing.

Speaker 1 Tua's five wins this year are the Rams, good, good-ish team. Yeah, good team.
Are they above 500?

Speaker 3 No, they're six and seven.

Speaker 3 So,

Speaker 1 close enough. The Rams, the Jaguars,

Speaker 1 the Raiders, the Patriots, and the Jets. Oh, there are

Speaker 1 7-6.

Speaker 1 So, let me say it again. The Rams, the Jaguars, the Raiders, the Patriots, and the Jets.

Speaker 1 The losses for two of this year, Buffalo twice, Arizona, Green Bay.

Speaker 1 Texans are above 500.

Speaker 1 We should remember the fact that the Dolphins just can't beat a team above 500.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but I think I liked the Dolphins straight up this weekend.

Speaker 1 But did you hear what I said?

Speaker 3 I did.

Speaker 1 I heard that.

Speaker 3 I still like them. I still like them because I don't think the Texans, they're not in that.

Speaker 3 Obviously, the Cardinals, they don't kind of qualify the same way that the Bills would qualify as a very, very good team or the Packers would qualify as a very, very good team.

Speaker 3 But I don't think that the Texans are a super good team.

Speaker 1 But are the Texans closer to the Bills and the Packers or

Speaker 1 the Jaguars, Raiders, Patriots, and Jets?

Speaker 3 Probably closer to the Packers.

Speaker 1 That's my only... That's my only thought in this game.
Not really deep level thoughts, but that was my thought.

Speaker 3 So, I mean, what you're you're saying is essentially, if the Texans beat the Dolphins, then the Texans are a good team. And if they lose, then they're a bad team.

Speaker 1 They're a bad team. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 This really has a lot to do with

Speaker 3 outside the ball.

Speaker 1 Tell us what happens. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Basically. That makes sense.

Speaker 1 Anything else for this game?

Speaker 3 I got nothing else. That's about it for me.

Speaker 1 That's the early slate. Let's get into it.
You know what? Let's build up to the three games. Let's build up to the three great games.

Speaker 1 We'll start with the ones. There's a couple mixed in there that are not.
Actually, there's four great games in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 But one bad one. Hank, Patriots of Cardinals.
Cardinals minus six over under 46.

Speaker 4 I'm happy this game's in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Get swallowed up. Swallowed up.

Speaker 1 Should we talk about Bill Belichick? Yeah.

Speaker 1 UNC.

Speaker 3 Happy for him. Your beloved Tar Heels.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Think it probably will work out.

Speaker 1 It was funny seeing that whole, like, Bill Belichick basically was saying, fuck you, to the NFL.

Speaker 1 While I believe that, I also think there's an element of Bill Belichick being like, if I'm not going to get, I don't want to do another hiring cycle where I don't get hired, I'm going to go take this into my own hands.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I think he's going to be successful at UNC.
I really do.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 I'm not saying that he's not because he's obviously one of the smartest and best football coaches of all time. But there's a lot that's different about college from the NFL.

Speaker 3 Well, that was the funny thing. And like to think that you're going to jump into it and immediately be able to run the

Speaker 1 best program. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I don't think that, I think it's going to be a lot more complicated complicated than even he thinks it's going to be.

Speaker 1 I mean, Bill O'Brien has done decently well with Boston College this year in terms of like writing them. And I don't think they're going to win the ACC next year.

Speaker 1 I think they'll just look a lot more competent than they have.

Speaker 1 But did you read that article where he was like, I'm just tired of the bullshit in the NFL? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Feels kind of weird to be like, I'm tired of the bullshit in the NFL. Let me go to somewhere where there's significantly more bullshit.

Speaker 3 Yeah, college football is the bullshittest sport.

Speaker 3 That's what we love about it.

Speaker 1 It's all bullshit.

Speaker 3 It's insane. There's so much crazy shit that happens all the time.
Like, the NFL is pretty buttoned up for the most part. Yeah.
But there's wild stuff that he can't even account for.

Speaker 3 I like the people that are pointing out some coaches have been successful as NFL coaches that then transition into college coaches.

Speaker 3 And I love the fact that they're including Nick Sabin in that list as like a great NFL coach that proved that he just made the transition to college football and win there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Hank?

Speaker 4 I think he spent, you know, obviously he wasn't coaching this year.

Speaker 4 His son was, so I think he obviously got to, you know, hear and see how the way things worked and made the decision that he thought he could handle it.

Speaker 4 I don't think he's going into it blind and is going to be blindsided by the way, you know, college and recruiting and all that stuff works.

Speaker 1 He's

Speaker 4 seen it. He knows how it goes and he made the decision himself to take the job.
He obviously has the 400 page. I would love, love, love to get my hands on that.
On his manifesto? On his manifesto.

Speaker 4 I think it's going to be exciting.

Speaker 4 I think you're going to see see a different side of bill i think you know you saw it this year where it's like he was a hard ass nfl coach because he knew that's what it took to win i think he's going to know that he has to show his softer side which he did this year in the media and he's going to do it with coaching where it's like it's not going to be the same nfl bill belich it's going to be a different type of bill belichick where it's like he's going to do what he has to do to win it's like back to school with rodney dangerfield he's going to be he's going to be cool guy bill To an extent, yeah, to a certain extent.

Speaker 4 I think he's going to be more like the NFL. You know, the NFL players will be like, he was such a hard ass.
But it's different when players are under contract, they're getting paid so much money.

Speaker 4 Obviously, with NIL, it's a little bit similar, but I think he's going to be successful.

Speaker 4 I'm happy that he's at UNC.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's cool. He's been a tar heel.

Speaker 4 I mean, listen, I obviously the Dukes. I was a Duke fan growing up, but like, again, I am very close with Caleb.
I've known him since I was 22.

Speaker 4 When I first went to UNC, it was like Mitch, Mac Collins, Switzerland, Jeff Schotmer. And so I've had some Carolina football relationships since I've been 22.
So

Speaker 4 I have nothing against Carolina football. Drake May, great.

Speaker 4 And if Bill Belichick is using Caleb to recruit, that's going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 Can we make you a split jersey? That would be awesome. A UNC football, Duke basketball?

Speaker 4 Or yeah. And golf.
I'm going to get a Drake May Patriots UNC split.

Speaker 1 Oh. I like that.
Those would be hot, yeah.

Speaker 3 So you think he's going to be...

Speaker 3 When you say successful, first year.

Speaker 4 Playoff.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 3 College football playoff.

Speaker 4 We should have won the ACC.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Playoff in the first year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What kind of props is old Bill going to have on the sideline?

Speaker 3 You know, the turnover chain, turnover hoop?

Speaker 3 You got to appeal to the kids.

Speaker 4 I feel like he's going to build a staff of people that do all that.

Speaker 4 That's the other thing.

Speaker 4 He's got Lombardi as the GM, which I didn't even really, I guess that's a new thing with NIL, but he's going to build a staff, and he's like, he knows what he wants to do, and he's going to build a staff.

Speaker 4 He's got his son. He's going to build a staff who do most of the shit he doesn't want to do, and he's going to focus on winning.

Speaker 1 Do you think he's going to ban TikTok? No. Yeah.
Probably can't do that.

Speaker 1 I agree with you that I don't think he's going to go to the playoff in one year, but I think if he sticks it out, like I think I said this on Wednesday, but there is a compelling case for Bill Belichick shows up to your living room and says, hey, I can get you in the NFL.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like the Cal. Like, I can get you in the NFL.
I know what it takes to get you in the NFL. I know what it takes to play NFL football.
If you want, like,

Speaker 1 I'm not going to sit here and pretend that you need an education and, like, UNC is like some, you know, all this. I'm just going to get you the NFL.

Speaker 3 Go back to what works at UNC, the Butch-Jones era.

Speaker 1 Like, I wouldn't be shocked if Bill Belichick gets a program running that's like, maybe they don't win, get get to the playoff, maybe they don't win

Speaker 1 like a ton and ton of games, but they're like getting guys in the draft every year.

Speaker 4 And the transfer portal, like he's always been good at getting the most out of guys that you wouldn't expect. True.

Speaker 4 He's going to be able to, you know, watch film and watch other teams and players and stuff and get them in the transfer portal. And all of a sudden, they're going to be good.

Speaker 1 And evaluate a quarterback.

Speaker 3 I think that there will be some people in the portal that would take less money to play for Bill Belichick. For sure.

Speaker 1 Can he evaluate a quarterback? Yes.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 3 Yeah. With the new rules.

Speaker 1 Black Jones.

Speaker 3 So there's

Speaker 1 Cam Newton.

Speaker 4 Cam Newton was good. Cam Newton got hurt.
He was good his first year, and then he had a little bit of, he got injured.

Speaker 3 Well, how come he didn't start Tom Brady initially?

Speaker 1 Why didn't he draft Tom Brady in the first round?

Speaker 3 He had a six-round grade on Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 I actually agree with you, so I don't know. I'm just trolling you.
I think he's going to be good.

Speaker 1 And it's also just going to be hilarious watching him be like pissed off at like 18-year-old kids on the sideline. Yeah.
Like it makes the ACC significantly more fun with Bill Belichick.

Speaker 3 Also, if you're a college ref and Bill Belichick's screaming at you from his call, you think you're so I fucked that up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's going to hate Dabo so much. I saw a tweet.
It's like the Bill Belichick's face when he sees Dabo running down the hill. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's going to.

Speaker 4 He's the anti-Dabo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also think there's part of this was just the colors because I've said it before. Like if you're thinking about going to a school and you see the Carolina blue, do it.

Speaker 3 Is that going to mellow him out?

Speaker 3 The nice calming shade of blue?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think he's been chilled. I mean, I think

Speaker 4 you've seen the good side and the chill side of Bill Belichick this year. I think he's going to,

Speaker 1 to some extent, the only thing that shocks me like that. I did think he wanted that Shula record,

Speaker 1 but maybe he also was like Andy Reid is hot on his tails and Andy Reid's going to, like, if you go, if Bill Belichick goes, takes over another NFL team, there's no guarantee they're going to win 12 games a year.

Speaker 1 Andy Reid's almost guaranteed 12 games a win a year.

Speaker 4 And he's kind of, I think he's a control freak.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It also would be a crazy, like.

Speaker 4 And he's a family man.

Speaker 1 Well, and it also would be like his legacy is already cemented as one of, if not the best coach of all time. If he does successful in college, that's like insane.
He's like, oh, I just did it for fun.

Speaker 3 His girlfriend going to enroll at grad school?

Speaker 1 Maybe. She probably already is.
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, Cardinals. I like the Cardinals.

Speaker 4 I don't disagree. I think they need this game.

Speaker 1 I also think they're going to be able to run the the ball, and that's like the big thing. The Cardinals can run the ball.
Everything else works.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I agree. I think the Cardinals by a decent margin in this game.

Speaker 3 If Kyler can stop turning the ball over, because he had two last week and then one or two interceptions each in the previous two games. He needs to stop turning the ball over, Kyler.

Speaker 1 Stop turning the ball over.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Colts at Broncos. Broncos minus four over, under 44.

Speaker 1 This is a crazy swing game in the playoff picture. So the Colts, if they win this game, will have a 66% chance of making the playoffs.
With a loss, they'll have an 11% chance.

Speaker 1 And the Broncos, with a win, will have an 89% chance of making the playoffs and a 42% chance with a loss. So holy shit, it means a lot.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of rooting for the Colts in this just to keep more chaos in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Because we don't, this is the first time in a while, I feel like, where we're kind of almost set.

Speaker 1 Other than this, and, you know, I guess the Rams and Commanders, but it's not, there's not like a ton that's still up for grabs in terms of we have, at least in both division or both conferences, five or six teams that are almost guaranteed set.

Speaker 3 And if you're rooting for the Bengals to still be in the conversation at all, then you're definitely rooting for the Colts this weekend. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, no Riley Moss. Hungry Dog, Hank?

Speaker 3 Hungry Horse? Yep.

Speaker 1 Colts. No Riley Moss for the Broncos.
That's significant.

Speaker 1 Shane Steichen off of bye. Both teams are off of bye, right? Yeah.
Both teams are off of bye.

Speaker 1 I kind of like that, Hank.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they can win outright. But Anthony Richardson, he's kind of showing me something.

Speaker 3 Colts defense not that great recently.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Bo Nicks might go off. He is Bo Nicks.

Speaker 1 He's got so much dog, he makes people uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 I want the Colts to win this weekend, but I feel like it's the Broncos. The Broncos have been playing much better football.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 The other one that's significant in the afternoon, but not one of the marquee ones, Bucks at Chargers. Chargers minus two and a half, over under 45.5.

Speaker 1 I need Lad McConkey to play. That's really all I got.

Speaker 3 Yeah, people are pissed off. Chargers fans are pissed off because Lad was left off of ESPN's list of top 10 rookies.

Speaker 1 Oh, that is actually very...

Speaker 3 I would be pissed off. Yeah, so they're mad about that.
And I think they're mad fairly, not just because he should be on there, but when they listed what the

Speaker 3 stats for each rookie were,

Speaker 3 they had the wrong number of of receptions and yards for him. I think they shortchanged him by like 150, 200 yards.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So

Speaker 3 Chargers fans are pissed off. They have every right to be pissed off.

Speaker 3 The Bucs, this is a big game for them. Huge.

Speaker 1 Huge game for the Chargers.

Speaker 3 Back to percentages. If the Bucs lose, their playoff chances are down to 59%.
If they win, they're up to 87%.

Speaker 1 And no Antoine Winfield, which is big.

Speaker 1 Also, do you guys know that Justin Herbert's only thrown one interception this year?

Speaker 3 Yeah, was it 14 touchdowns? Week two. One pick, so he's gone 11 straight games with no interceptions.
Week two. And I think, is that the record, or he has like one more to go?

Speaker 1 I think he has one more to go.

Speaker 3 So if he throws no picks against the Bucs, then he has the record for most consecutive games started with like a minimum of 15 attempts, I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Also,

Speaker 1 the Bucs are going to want to Blitz, and Justin Herbert's the best quarterback in the NFL this year against the Blitz.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 what do you got, Max?

Speaker 3 Talk us through the top 10 list here.

Speaker 1 Lad McConkey just missed is the category that they have. Yeah, I don't agree with that.

Speaker 3 And I think they updated those receiving yards for him.

Speaker 1 Did he used to be wrong?

Speaker 3 Yeah, those were lower. It was like 600-something.

Speaker 1 Wait, Lad McConkey just missed, and they did a top 10 with 11 because they have a tied for 10th. Yep.
Brian Thomas and Cooper Jean Tom. Okay, I mean, those guys are both Marvin Harrison.

Speaker 1 I don't think Marvin's missing.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Marvin Harrison shouldn't be on there. Joe Alt.

Speaker 1 Yep, that makes sense. Zach Frazier.

Speaker 1 Malik Neighbors. Yeah.
Quinyon Mitchell. Bo Nicks.
Number four. Jared Vurst.
Wait, hold on. Jane James, two.
Brock Bowers, one. Brian Thomas is in there?

Speaker 3 He was tied for 10. Oh, he's tied for 10.

Speaker 1 But he was the first one. I missed it.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 He's been

Speaker 1 good rookie class. Good rookie class.

Speaker 3 He should be in there instead of Marvin Harrison.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Marvin Harrison, 45 receptions.

Speaker 1 Brian Thomas also has been very consistent.

Speaker 1 Caleb Williams also just missed. Just missed.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I got no issues with that except for Ladd. Ladd should be on there.

Speaker 3 I don't know if Brock should be number one.

Speaker 1 He's broken records in his position. He's great, but quite literally.

Speaker 3 It's the most important position in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Probably tight end. Maybe tight end.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Bucks, Chargers.
I kind of like the Chargers.

Speaker 3 I kind of like the Bucs. Hmm.

Speaker 3 Kind of like the Bucks quite. I don't know.
What are they going to do with Bucky Irving? Is he going to play? Or are they going to dangle Bucky around for us again? They're going to screw us.

Speaker 3 We're going to have to file a lawsuit.

Speaker 1 They might screw us. They might.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Max. Steelers and Eagles.

Speaker 1 Eagles minus five and a half. Over-under is 43.

Speaker 1 Will Jalen Hurts play better?

Speaker 1 He said that he will. Oh.
Oh. How'd he say

Speaker 1 He said that I do well when criticized or something like that.

Speaker 3 So he's saying that. Wait, so AJ Brown's criticizing?

Speaker 1 Wrong. He said that when the media and the fans are criticizing.
A.J. Brown did say BG was just being BG, talking about Brandon Graham, which means everything Brandon Graham said was correct.

Speaker 1 Jordan Milata had the best response to it. He was just joking around, saying he was like,

Speaker 1 I'm happy to be talking about it now because the more we can talk about it now, the more we can eliminate and just focus on the stuff. It doesn't sound like a joke.

Speaker 3 That's a good spin zone. No, he wasn't joke.

Speaker 1 I got it at first.

Speaker 1 Well, they start off, he was like, you guys think I did the, you guys think I spread the rumor? You guys think I spread the rumor? And then he was joking. And then

Speaker 1 started. It's classic.
And then he went down.

Speaker 3 It's classic, Jordan Milad.

Speaker 1 Are you nervous, Max? So

Speaker 1 I like the Steelers in this game just because Mike Tomlin is an underdog.

Speaker 1 The Steelers have not won in Philadelphia since 1965.

Speaker 1 Been a long, long time.

Speaker 1 But Mike Tomlin is an underdog. We've said it a million times.
65% against the spread. He's 5-0 this year, straight up and against the spread.

Speaker 1 So every time he's been an underdog this year, they've won straight up. And more than anything, this is.

Speaker 1 Max, I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this. This feels like it could be a recipe for disaster where you have an entire week of everyone being like, the passing game's broken.

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts doesn't look good. So now he's like, I'm going to play better.
I'm going to throw it more versus a really good Steelers defense.

Speaker 1 I don't think that that's necessarily going to be the case. You think they're going to charge? They're still going to run the ball.

Speaker 1 It's a very good defense, though.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Correct. And we have a very good defense, and their best weapon is out.

Speaker 1 So that's

Speaker 1 where are they going to score?

Speaker 3 Well, they got other receivers.

Speaker 1 Mike Williams, who's. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He played good last weekend.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 It sounds like you're overlooking the Steelers.

Speaker 1 I'm not overlooking the Steelers, but it seems like you're underlooking the Eagles. No, I don't think we are at all.
I mean,

Speaker 1 you just went for 10 Steelers status. We're underlooking the...

Speaker 3 The Eagles are favored. Correct.
So how can we underlook them?

Speaker 1 We're underlooking the Steelers. Or the Eagles.
Yeah. We're underlooking them.

Speaker 3 We just said that Pittsburgh hasn't won in Philly since 1965. They've lost 10 straight.

Speaker 1 I know, but you were saying that as like,

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling on this game? I feel good. You feel good? I feel good.
You feel strong. Yeah.
You feel confident. Yeah, I should.
I feel confident every week.

Speaker 1 Jerry said he wasn't going to bring his gun. Jerry doesn't feel confident.
Jerry said he was not going to bring his gun to the gun. I know that was nice of him.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 You can tell Jerry when he's scared of.

Speaker 1 I'm

Speaker 1 scared of Jerry. Yeah.
What do you mean you're scared of Jerry? He's.

Speaker 3 You should be.

Speaker 1 If you have to clarify that you're not going to bring your gun. Yeah.
No, but he said, I'm not going to bring my gun. Correct.
So that should make you not scared of Jerry.

Speaker 1 How clear could it be when he's not bringing his gun?

Speaker 1 I'm not going to bring a gun either. There you go.

Speaker 3 Max. When Jerry doesn't say that before game two, you should be terrified.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should, when he says he's not going to bring his gun, it's like, damn, all right, great. Like, it's not even the point.
He told me that in the context of if I bring my gun, I may shoot you.

Speaker 1 So I'm not going to bring my gun.

Speaker 3 You can tell Jerry's nervous, though, because he is doing the thing where he walks around and he's just telling everybody, I don't think George Pickens is going to play at all for this game.

Speaker 1 He's like out.

Speaker 3 According to Jerry, George Pickens has retired from the NFL because his hamstring hurts. Max, can I overlook you? Can I stop underlooking you for a second with a stat? Yeah, overlook them.

Speaker 3 And I love these stats.

Speaker 3 The rushing yards leaders, Saquon Barkley is in first, right? We know that. 1,623.

Speaker 3 Second place, Derrick Henry, with 1,407 yards. You know who third place in the NFL is?

Speaker 1 Saquon Barkley in the second half.

Speaker 3 Saquon Barkley before contact.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 3 With 1175. Wow.
So

Speaker 3 your offensive line has done a very, very, very good job for your boy Kwan, as you call him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, good offensive line, good running back, good run games.

Speaker 3 Yeah, those are Jacob Neerab, by the way. That's his stat.

Speaker 1 Steelers have a very good defensive line.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts

Speaker 1 takes sacks on his own.

Speaker 1 Slides.

Speaker 3 Are you worried about TJ?

Speaker 3 Are you worried about TJ Watt hitting Jalen Hurts very hard?

Speaker 1 Lane Johnson. What about Alex Highsmith?

Speaker 1 Jordan Milata. What about Nick Herbig?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know what you want me to do.
He's run out of guys. You just,

Speaker 1 but I also don't know where that guy plays, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 Are you worried about getting Russied?

Speaker 1 That I'm worried about. Yeah.
It's going to be an awesome game. I'm so excited for it.

Speaker 3 Should we talk about the Stegles at all?

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 3 So the Stegles, the team that was put together during World War II, a combination effort

Speaker 3 between the Steelers.

Speaker 1 What did you just say?

Speaker 3 Would meme say? Oh, your mic was on it.

Speaker 3 Would meme say?

Speaker 1 You keep accidentally ordering hot chocolate. Oh.
How many hot chocolates you got? Oh, no.

Speaker 3 How do you accidentally order hot chocolate?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that sounds like something you've ordered before. You order hot chocolate as an adult.
No. Yeah.
I did take a couple sips of this hot chocolate. It's fire.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you don't accidentally order hot chocolate if you haven't ordered a hot chocolate. Like you've just been reordering what you always order, hot chocolate.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 How do you accidentally order a hot chocolate? It said hot, and then I large, and then I pressed order. Hot and large? You just missed the middle word?

Speaker 1 The actual.

Speaker 1 But he made a mistake once, and then he did it again.

Speaker 3 Wait, on the same day?

Speaker 1 In the same episode of this podcast. And I had Pug get it twice.
Where are you ordering these from?

Speaker 1 No free ads.

Speaker 3 Okay, but you've placed the same wrong order twice in a row in the last 30 minutes. Correct.

Speaker 1 It's a place down the street. Okay.

Speaker 3 Stop looking at the Sun memes. All right.

Speaker 1 Steagles.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the Stegles. There were a team that was put together in 1943, I believe, during World War II when a lot of players had to be shipped overseas to go fight.

Speaker 3 The NFL tried to carry on, and they combined the Eagles and the Steelers into one team called the Steagles.

Speaker 3 And they finished 5-4-1, which is the Eagles' first winning season, officially, is how it's been written down in the record books. And I looked at some of their players that they had.

Speaker 3 Their leading receiver had 17 receptions named Tony Bova, and he was blind in one eye. Oh, I love it.
Because in order to get out of serving in World War II, you usually had to have like a disability.

Speaker 1 To become a Steagle, you had to be the few, the proud.

Speaker 3 Their center was deaf,

Speaker 3 and their kicker and punter, Troy Smith, had a fake leg. Oh.
I would love to go back and find footage of this.

Speaker 1 I want to see the steel collection.

Speaker 3 This team won five games. That's awesome.
It was a deaf receiver and a kicker with one leg.

Speaker 3 They also

Speaker 3 did a draft in 1940. I think it was in 1944.
They drafted together.

Speaker 3 And they selected a guy named Max Kilbasa.

Speaker 3 Fucking great name.

Speaker 1 Max Kilbasa.

Speaker 3 Great name.

Speaker 1 That's literally just Max at lunch.

Speaker 3 Yeah, or that translates to Nick Foles.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't think I've ever had a Kilbasa.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have. Yeah, you definitely.
You definitely have. I don't lie.
I don't even.

Speaker 1 Is it a brat? Is that also a brat? Don't lie, you've had a lot of killbases.

Speaker 1 I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 1 Remember, we made shirts back. That was actually a really cool shirt.
It made no sense.

Speaker 1 The Bears and the Eagles were both bad at the same time, and we made Philadelphia Beagles shirts. Yeah.
Which would have been... That's a sick name.

Speaker 3 It is sick.

Speaker 1 It's Chiladelphia Beagles.

Speaker 1 It was a cool shirt. Look at that.
Look at that. Look at that dog.

Speaker 3 It's chill.

Speaker 1 That's a chill-ass dog. Just a chill guy.
Philadelphia Beagles.

Speaker 3 Those are fucking cool ass Beagles. Do they still sell Steagles merchandise?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I want Beagles merchandise. Steagles merchandise.
Yeah, I'm sure like Canton probably has something.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Do you think there's anyone wearing a Steagles?

Speaker 3 Are there any Steagles still alive today?

Speaker 1 No, probably not.

Speaker 1 I mean, there might be, be, but it would be, there's only, what, there's only 40 Steagles? Well, yeah, and it would all be. And they all have to get, like, to, they'd be 100 plus right now.

Speaker 3 And it would have to be somebody that probably had a disability.

Speaker 1 And it also had to be someone who played professional football in the 40s, which also creates disabilities? Probably not. Yeah, probably not.
Probably lost all of our Steagles.

Speaker 3 But I do want to see highlights, if there's any highlights out there of Steagles games.

Speaker 1 We need to make a movie about this. Yeah.
Steagles.

Speaker 1 Okay. So, Max, you think they'll cover the five and a half? I don't care about covering anything.
All right.

Speaker 1 I like the Steelers

Speaker 1 plus five and a half. Okay.
Wait, why is that funny? It's just funny. I don't care about covering anything.
I know. I just want to win the game.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. The big one.
The big kahuna. Bills at Lions.
Lions minus two and a half over under 54.

Speaker 1 Thoughts.

Speaker 3 This is getting an awesome game.

Speaker 3 My thought on this game is it fucking rocks that we're getting this game in week 15. Rocks.
So you got two teams, double-digit wins, playing each other in week 15.

Speaker 3 The last time that happened was all the way back in 1985.

Speaker 1 So it fucking rocks. Rocks.

Speaker 3 This is a historically fucking rocks matchup.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm contemplating a game of the year in this game. Contemplating.

Speaker 3 On the over?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 This is a very fun over.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 It'd be on the Buffalo Bills. Okay.
I love this game for the Bills. Okay.

Speaker 1 Last week, I had the Rams. I kind of saw that coming where it's like, hey, they just clinched the AFC East.
They went all the way west. I think Josh is just playing out of his mind.

Speaker 1 I think this is the week that the Lions, all their defensive injuries, I know they might be getting a couple guys back, but this is an elite, elite offense. And Aaron Glenn...

Speaker 1 I know this from experience because Justin Fields used to play well against the Lions. Aaron Glenn's defenses don't do well against running quarterbacks.
He refuses to do a spy.

Speaker 1 The only thing that's holding me back is I think that the Lions are going to be able to run the ball.

Speaker 1 And if I get into a situation where the Lions are just grinding them out and then Josh Allen's scoring quick touchdown, then they're grinding him out. That feels scary.

Speaker 1 I'll know on Sunday if I have the balls to do it. I'd love it to get to three.
I don't think it will.

Speaker 3 What's the over-under on this game? 54.5.

Speaker 1 Over.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Over.
The funnest over possible.

Speaker 1 You know, I should just do that as a game of the year.

Speaker 3 I mean, the game of the year is pretty good.

Speaker 4 You're going to do a game of the year.

Speaker 1 I might not this weekend, Hank. It's called responsible gambling.
But yes,

Speaker 1 there is a people who are like, oh, you're going to do a game of the year 12 hours after Travis Hunter wins the Heisman, possibly. Oh, that's right.

Speaker 3 I need to recalibrate my thinking about this weekend. Correct.
Because my bank account

Speaker 1 has game of the year.

Speaker 3 I'm talking about arsenal.

Speaker 1 Basically, someone's just walking over and just loading my gun with bullets, and I'm just firing everywhere as fast as I can.

Speaker 3 I'm Ukraine right now. What?

Speaker 1 I'm still nervous about Genti.

Speaker 1 No, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Stop. Which done is done.
Which done is done. The votes are in.
Yeah, but it doesn't matter. We still don't know.
All right, here's something.

Speaker 1 Here's something that will help you. Ready?

Speaker 1 Travis Hunter won the AP College Football Player of the Year,

Speaker 1 and every player who's won that has won the high has been since Chris McCaffrey.

Speaker 3 And that award goes out to the best football player of the year, I would imagine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Although Gentie did win the Maxwell.

Speaker 1 That was fine. Okay.
I'm a little nervous.

Speaker 1 There's so many people on Twitter that keep saying that

Speaker 1 Genti.

Speaker 3 When I hear Maxwell, I think second place.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true.

Speaker 1 That's my name. I mean, listen,

Speaker 1 I have to go to a Christmas party on Saturday night, and I'm going to have to ask for them to put on the Heisman Trophy

Speaker 1 ceremony while I stand like anti-social, just staring at a TV with probably no sound on it.

Speaker 1 This is, I'm, I'll just go home. I'll just leave if this happens.

Speaker 3 I think me and Blake might get dressed up in suits and sit down on the couch like we're the family and watch this game. But yeah, no, you reminded me.
I'm Ukraine right now. I have no bullets left.

Speaker 3 And then there's a shipment coming over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Joe Bines is about to come and give us a little package.

Speaker 3 And then Sunday, you better fucking watch out, NFL.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm saying Game of the Year might be on, but it feels scary because it's like this, the Lions are so good. I'm not saying that

Speaker 1 no Game of the Year. It's going to be a nuclear missile whale play.
Okay? Let's just do that. Bills, nuclear missile whale play is what I'm going to do.

Speaker 1 And we'll save a Game of the Year for maybe the playoffs.

Speaker 3 Possible Super Bowl preview.

Speaker 1 Possible Super Bowl preview. This would be my dream Super Bowl matchup in terms of fans in New Orleans.
Holy shit, would it rock? Just like partying with Lions and Bills fans all week.

Speaker 3 Also, it would be heartbreaking for whoever lost that game. Yes.
But also,

Speaker 3 maybe the most merchandise ever sold the day after the Super Bowl, regardless of fan base.

Speaker 1 I threw out this trivia question the other day.

Speaker 1 Last time, if it was Bills, Lions, what was the last time there was a chance for a first-time Super Bowl winner, double chance for first-time Super Bowl winner?

Speaker 3 The Indians and the Cubs.

Speaker 1 No, Super Bowl. And also, no.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, it's like 100 years. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 Double chance first

Speaker 3 time.

Speaker 1 Super Bowl winner.

Speaker 1 The Super Bowl guarantees a first-time Super Bowl winner.

Speaker 4 Patriots Rams.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Close.

Speaker 3 Bucks Ravens. Rams Titans.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Patriots, Rams. Rams have won the year before.
Oh. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Rams, Titans.

Speaker 1 This would be fun. i mean it doesn't happen very often i hope it doesn't happen very often where you get a chance for a you guaranteed chance for a new super bowl winner

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 yeah i so the other parts about the bills keon coleman and kincaid i think will be back that might be that might push me over the over the ledge of saying i'm gonna have to take it um

Speaker 1 josh allen's also good against the blitz uh aaron glenn's gonna want to blitz he's gonna want to you know like i said running quarterbacks not the best.

Speaker 1 And I just think the Lions, I mean, the defense of the Lions is good, but it's also been very banged up. And this is

Speaker 1 the Bills' offense is one of the top, what, three, like the most elite offenses. So, I mean, the Lions obviously have one as well.
I'm just excited for this game. I'm so pumped up for this game.

Speaker 1 I should not make a game of the year because I want to watch. I could not bet on this game.
This game is going to be so awesome.

Speaker 3 That's not true.

Speaker 1 I could not. No, you couldn't.
Just like Jerry could not bring his gun.

Speaker 3 I bet you a thousand dollars that you'll bet on this game i'm not gonna take that bet

Speaker 3 i thought that there was a chance that you could not bet on this game yeah i'm not gonna take that bet okay

Speaker 3 that's a great bet that i just offered nuclear missile whale played you a thousand dollars to not lose money well no because the minute i say yes you're gonna be like well you just bet on this game

Speaker 3 i would have said that yeah

Speaker 1 you're not max i'm not hank i'm not max my memes max would have fallen first come on in a second in a second. They would have walked right into that.

Speaker 1 Okay, last game. Seahawks, Cardinals.

Speaker 1 Did you guys see that

Speaker 1 the Seahawks are plus two and a half, over-under is 45 and a half?

Speaker 3 Wait, Seahawks.

Speaker 1 Or sorry, Packers. Packers and Seahawks.
Seahawks plus two and a half, over-under, 45.5. Did you see the Seahawks are calling their defense the death zone? Okay.

Speaker 3 How you like that? In what way are they at the death zone? Is that like on a mountain?

Speaker 1 You just die when you go up against them.

Speaker 3 Once you get up a certain altitude?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They have been really good. I like the bye.

Speaker 3 Legion of Spoon better.

Speaker 1 Legion of Spoon. Oh, no.
Death Zone. What?

Speaker 3 Death Zone? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You've got to earn Death Zone. Legion of Spoon? Yeah.
No way. In terms of intimidation, Death Zone.

Speaker 3 You got to earn Death Zone, though.

Speaker 1 Death Zone.

Speaker 3 Death Zone rocks if you're an elite defense that is like dominating people.

Speaker 1 They have been since the bye.

Speaker 3 They've been

Speaker 1 top five in D. Well, this is a name that's come about since the buy.

Speaker 3 So we entered the Death Zone after the Buy.

Speaker 1 They have just started being the Death Zone. Okay.

Speaker 1 So yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 Also a reminder, the NFC North, which this goes against what I just said about the Bills, but the NFC North is 28-3 outside of the division. Yep.

Speaker 1 Or sorry, the Packers, Vikings, and Lions are 28-3 outside of the division.

Speaker 3 Those three teams.

Speaker 1 Those three teams, not the NFC North.

Speaker 3 Not the Bills. It's not the whole division? Not the Bears.

Speaker 1 Definitely not the Bears.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I like the Seahawks, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is one of those games. I'm sure we all have them, but if you have a certain matchup, you just think of like the iconic, like they had the Fail Mary, and then obviously the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 And it's fun when you have these matchups where you can immediately be like, oh yeah, I've seen this, and it was fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 You just might, yeah, this might just be a wild ending to a game. Right, right.

Speaker 1 You just have wild endings in your head when you see that matchup.

Speaker 1 This is going to be a great afternoon of football, boys. I can't wait for it.
Max is stressed.

Speaker 1 I wish one of those games was in at the noons. I do too.
They could have given us, well, no, they couldn't have given us Bucs Chargers.

Speaker 1 They could have given us Lions.

Speaker 1 It would have been nice. I would have taken Lions.

Speaker 1 Eagles Steelers. I would have taken Eagles Steelers.
That would actually have been the perfect someday if Eagles Steelers.

Speaker 1 And you swap out the Jets and the Jags, put them in the afternoon, just forget about it. Set it and forget it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 TD

Speaker 1 parlay. Man, I'll tell you what.
When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 1 That's where Snickers comes in, man. That thing is packed.
Roasted peanuts, nuggets, caramel, milk chocolate. It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 1 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this: Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 1 Snickers satisfies, man. That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to sit out. You guys pick.
Conviction.

Speaker 4 Amon Ross St. Brown.

Speaker 1 Like it. AJ Brown.
Oh.

Speaker 3 Okay, this is crazy.

Speaker 3 Rashad White.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Brown, Brown, White. Brown, Brown, White.

Speaker 1 Brown, White, Brown. Oreo.
Kind of.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like it. All right.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 4 They're not Twinkies. They're

Speaker 1 the Ho-Hos. The Ho-Ho.

Speaker 1 This is the Ho-Ho. Brown, brown, white, brown.
All right, so it's Amon Ra.

Speaker 4 Amon Ra.

Speaker 1 Rashad White.

Speaker 1 And then AJ Brown. All right, good luck, boys.
I'm going to bet it. I'm riding.

Speaker 3 Let's go.

Speaker 1 Sorry again to everyone last week. Okay, let's do our picks.
Our picks. We're so bad.
I think we're. Are we all under 500? Collectively,

Speaker 1 Yikes.

Speaker 1 Yikes. Who's up first?

Speaker 1 That'd be me.

Speaker 1 I feel like you went first last week. Hank went first.
I feel like it was you. Sure? Yes.
I feel like that was you.

Speaker 3 Memes, what about the graphic that you put out besmirching my NBA Cup reputation?

Speaker 1 My apologies. I don't make that graphic.

Speaker 1 You don't make a lot of graphics, huh, buddy? I make memes. My name is Memes.

Speaker 1 Because every time there's a graphic, you're like, I don't make that one.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, putting 0-3 up there when it was not 0-3 is a dirty move.

Speaker 1 Nah, that was McCarthy's fault.

Speaker 3 He's a scumbag. Yep.

Speaker 1 Everyone knows that. My apologies.
I'll take the Jets minus 3.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I am going to take

Speaker 1 Colts Broncos under 44. Ooh.

Speaker 3 Okay, interesting.

Speaker 3 I'm going to take the Arizona Cardinals minus 6.

Speaker 3 Love that number six.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take the

Speaker 1 Buffalo Bills plus two and a half.

Speaker 4 I'm going to take the over in that game, 54.5. Like it.
And I'm going to take the

Speaker 4 yeah.

Speaker 4 Box plus two and a half.

Speaker 1 Box plus two and a half. Um, Okay.

Speaker 1 You know what? Give me

Speaker 1 the over

Speaker 1 46.5 Patriots Cardinals.

Speaker 3 Give me.

Speaker 3 What's I didn't look at the weather that

Speaker 1 do you? I got you.

Speaker 3 I need the Cleveland weather forecast.

Speaker 1 Don't have it. Thought I had you.
If you had asked me Seattle, I would have said rain.

Speaker 3 Can I ask Max to bring up the weather forecast? Yes.

Speaker 1 Sunday, rain. Sunday.
Should have said rain. No, that's...
Yeah, that's rain. That could be rain.

Speaker 3 That's grapple.

Speaker 1 That could be rain.

Speaker 3 Okay, I'm going to stay away. Glad I looked at the weather forecast.
I'm going to take the over in the Commie's Saints, 44.

Speaker 1 Nice. Dome.
Dome.

Speaker 1 I will take the Bengals minus five against the Titans.

Speaker 1 Okay. Memes?

Speaker 9 I will do Texans Dolphins over 46 and a half.

Speaker 1 Okay. And a reminder, let me see the standings again.

Speaker 1 We got to remember for standings, we got to start going back to the point system because that makes it a lot easier to follow. Memes has 14 points.
Hank has 13 and a half points. I have 13 points.

Speaker 1 PFT has 12 points. Max has 11 and a half points.
So it's anyone's game. Anyone's game.
It's anyone's game. We are all within.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're all within two and a half points. Whoa.
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 We're all so bad together, which I appreciate. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It would be really a bummer if one of us was just like insanely good right now or one of us was insanely, insanely bad. We all just are like bad.
We're very bad. Yeah, we're not insanely bad.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Well, no, memes is bad. Hank is bad.

Speaker 1 I'm

Speaker 1 really like, not really bad.

Speaker 1 I'm really bad. PFT is really bad.
Max, you're really bad. Getting close to insanely bad.

Speaker 1 I'm just telling you what the records are saying, Debbie.

Speaker 1 Don't get me wrong. Wait, I'm a half.
But look at it. He's a half level point behind BFT.
But he's 12 and 17. You're 11-17 and 1.

Speaker 1 How are you and PFT the same when you guys are a full point away from each other?

Speaker 1 Because 13 and 12 look very similar.

Speaker 1 11 looks as a different. But it's 11 and a half.
But

Speaker 1 13 and 12 look very similar number wise. 11 is totally an outlier.
But you're forgetting about the half. Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 3 But Max, you just have to accept where you are right now. By the time next week comes around, I might be insanely bad.
Like, if I go 0-2, 12-19, I would say that's insanely bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I'm insanely bad.

Speaker 1 I think, like,

Speaker 3 that's pretty much I'm losing almost twice as much as I'm winning.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 13 and 18, I'd be insanely bad. I also feel horrible about my picks this weekend.
What were they again?

Speaker 3 Yeah, one was bad.

Speaker 1 Bengals minus five.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a bad pick.

Speaker 1 What was the other one? Colts, Broncos under 44. Yeah, that's a bad pick.
I mean, you. No, I actually like the Bengals pick.

Speaker 3 No, I hate the bad pick. I like that pick.
Good pick. It's a bad pick.

Speaker 1 Anyone could be in last place. Other than memes, anyone could be in last place at the start of next week.
And also, for the AWL's sake, me and Hank could be.

Speaker 1 Memes is the one that everyone should be rooting against

Speaker 1 or rooting for. Why?

Speaker 1 Do you... I don't think they want you at your bachelor party.
Why?

Speaker 1 No, you're a fun guy. Yeah, you're a fun.
Yeah, imagine going to the bachelor party and having them just like bust your balls the entire time. Me and Hank would also be boring.
No. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 No, that's fun.

Speaker 1 But we're both in bachelor party age. I'm saying for the

Speaker 1 great Max. But it would be the funniest outcome would be either.
I understand the funniest, but I also would not, like, I have, I could, I could.

Speaker 4 I would find a way to go for like six hours.

Speaker 1 If I went on a bachelor party, I have,

Speaker 1 I'm like, I got, I got four innings of like, like, low 90s fast. You would do a Chicago bachelor party.
Yeah, I'd love to do Chicago. I'd go to a Cubs game.
We'd go to a Cubs game. I'd get drunk.

Speaker 1 I'd go home. Yep.
No, I'd have to travel. I'd have to travel.

Speaker 3 I would be a lot of fun for one night. Yeah.
One night. And then after that night's over,

Speaker 3 I'd just be miserable.

Speaker 3 We'd be talking about different aspects of my hangover for the next seven hours.

Speaker 1 We have very few details.

Speaker 1 We haven't put out any ground rules to this.

Speaker 3 Hank might just not come back.

Speaker 3 Hank might have such a great time on your bachelor party that he just goes wherever you go.

Speaker 1 He's just hoping it's a golf trip. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Max, you'd be fun on the party.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we also need to figure out who's filming.

Speaker 4 Whatever, that's a later thing. Yeah, that's whatever.
Forget it.

Speaker 1 All right, let's

Speaker 1 do fancy fuckboys before we get to an awesome interview of Nick Foles in studio. Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Terms apply.

Speaker 1 Yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 4 My name's Mario Maggioni.

Speaker 1 Hey, Mario.

Speaker 1 Mario.

Speaker 4 My stardom is Greeks.

Speaker 1 Greeks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh, wait, that was my sitem. Fuck it.
Greeks, Greek freak. Giannis, fucks are playing good.
Greeks are back.

Speaker 4 Fucking love Greeks.

Speaker 1 Alpha males.

Speaker 4 Gyros.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 My sitem, YouTube TV.

Speaker 1 Ah, yeah.

Speaker 3 They're jacking up the price. They banged us.

Speaker 4 I just made the switch to YouTube TV this week, and they fucking yacked up the price.

Speaker 3 $9 a month. Some bullshit.

Speaker 4 Absolute bullshit.

Speaker 3 It is bullshit. When they started, it was $40.

Speaker 4 Cord cutters,

Speaker 4 they should have just kept stuck with cable. It's a shit show now.
You got to have every fucking app. You got to pay out of your fucking ass.

Speaker 3 I would pay a lot of money to have just one app.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait.

Speaker 3 X, the everything app. Love it.

Speaker 1 It's all happening on X.

Speaker 4 My sleeper is hoctua.

Speaker 4 She did her spaces. She was getting called out.
She said, I'm going to sleep.

Speaker 1 Ah!

Speaker 4 Haven't heard from her since. So she's sleeping.
She's having a good time.

Speaker 3 I thought that was a respectful way to get out of a very awkward conversation. Just being like, I'm tired.
I'm tired.

Speaker 1 I'll see you guys tomorrow.

Speaker 1 It was like a cartoon voice, too. Yeah.
Respect. Respect.
You know, she makes the money. Hey,

Speaker 1 you make her the money. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Hey, this is Luigi Mangioni. Oh, Luigi.
Just heard from my brother Mario.

Speaker 3 I'm starting the McRib.

Speaker 1 Oh. It's back.
Fuck yes.

Speaker 3 If loving the McRib is a crime, then lock me up and throw away the key. I just want to get a McRib.
That's why I go to McDonald's. Love that.
It's great.

Speaker 3 I'm sitting in a jail cell right now.

Speaker 3 And then my sleeper this weekend, it's fuck

Speaker 3 winter. Jack Frost is my sleeper this weekend.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck.

Speaker 3 I woke up this morning, my balls was up in my stomach.

Speaker 1 It had no balls. No balls.
No balls at all.

Speaker 3 Like a castrated ball.

Speaker 1 It wasn't that bad. No ball.
It was bad.

Speaker 1 Luigi, you're Mario. You're tougher.

Speaker 3 I had a friend. I had a friend.
Last year, he said, Chicago winner, not that bad. Kind of a pussy.
That was Mario. That was Mario.
Today wasn't that bad.

Speaker 1 Mario's staying with it. He's sticking with it.

Speaker 3 This winner's bad.

Speaker 4 Get a fucking coat, dude.

Speaker 3 You talk shit to the wrong guy. I ain't scared.
You're not made. You thought you was made.

Speaker 4 I was born in the winter.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I am one.

Speaker 1 You were born in June. You were born in June, bro.

Speaker 3 Bro, you were born in June. Fucking June.

Speaker 1 June. Still.
Australian winter. That ain't winner.
What's up, fuckers? It's Wario. Hey, what's up, Wario?

Speaker 1 My stardom this week is our

Speaker 1 pal. I can't remember her name.
Is it Livy or something? The girl who took a

Speaker 1 thousand dicks. Yeah, she's 100 dicks?

Speaker 3 She's the world's guma.

Speaker 1 That was something.

Speaker 3 You watched the documentary about her?

Speaker 1 No. The documentary? Fuck no.

Speaker 1 It was sad. Fuck no.

Speaker 3 It was very, very sad. I ain't watching that.
It was sad.

Speaker 1 My sitter is lasagna. I think it's overrated.
I like a little pasta. Just lasagna too much.
Too much co-author.

Speaker 4 I've never liked lasagna. It's a a bad take.
I don't like Lakota.

Speaker 3 You don't like lasagna?

Speaker 1 I hate lasagna.

Speaker 1 My sleeper this week is Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 Touchdown machine. That's

Speaker 3 that rock it off.

Speaker 1 Wario. I'm gonna win.
Oh, is that Mario?

Speaker 3 I think so.

Speaker 1 What does Wario say? I'm gonna win. It's Ami Wario.

Speaker 3 The

Speaker 3 documentary thing about that girl. It's just.
She was like... They interviewed the dudes.
The dudes were like, yeah, you can.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 you watched it.

Speaker 3 I saw clips.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 you watched it?

Speaker 3 No, I saw clips.

Speaker 1 Um, I think he watched it, guys.

Speaker 3 I did not watch it, uh, and I don't think it was, I don't think that there was porn in it if you did watch it. No, I

Speaker 1 think the like the sadness of it's very the clips I used worse than the porn.

Speaker 3 The clips I saw, she was like crying afterwards.

Speaker 3 Bad choice, yeah.

Speaker 1 And somehow my algorithm is just it's like Luigi memes and

Speaker 1 the woman who took a thousand cocks.

Speaker 3 Well, she took I think she took a hundred, hundreds and she wants to take a thousand cocks. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I just want to know more about the

Speaker 3 order that the guys got put in when they went there. If you just showed up and you were put in a waiting room or if there was a lottery ball like the NBA draft.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 If you're a virgin, you get to go first. I don't know.
I don't know how it worked. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. Crazy.

Speaker 1 Okay. Should we get to our interview?

Speaker 3 Maybe that's what Lamar Jacks was talking about.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 That is what he was talking about. Because that's what I thought when I saw it.
Like the internet was a bad idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Do you guys really?

Speaker 1 Lasagna just like in terms of pastas,

Speaker 3 it's great.

Speaker 1 I'm not a lasagna fan. Lasagna.
It depends on the lasagna.

Speaker 1 It is easy to fuck up lasagna. And it's just too much going on.

Speaker 1 Lasagna, it's like, yeah. Yeah.
Fuego? Yeah. It might be

Speaker 3 like a good lasagna might be my favorite Italian dish.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 You just haven't, you're telling yourself for never eating good lasagna.

Speaker 1 No, I've had good lasagna. I just don't, it's just too much.
I just like it. You gotta get

Speaker 1 good lasagna. I gotta get all of you.
Make me some lasagna. Make some lasagna.

Speaker 3 You've offended the booth.

Speaker 1 Make me some lasagna.

Speaker 1 Okay. Let's get to our interview with Nick Foles.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

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Speaker 3 And now here's Nick Foley.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. He is Super Bowl champion, Legend forever in Philadelphia.
Super Bowl MVP. Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 1 Played a bunch of different places. Nick Foles,

Speaker 1 QB1, in studio. First of all, welcome.
Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for coming here.

Speaker 1 Have you been harassed by any of our Philly fans yet? Because they're lingering.

Speaker 1 Like the buzz of Nick Foles in the office was, we said it, I think a couple days ago, and all the Philly fans were like, oh my God, I got to wear my best Kelly Green shirt, like Nike shoes and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 They dressed up for you. They did.
And I wouldn't say harassed. I'd say it's love.

Speaker 1 You know, it's just, you know, there's that Philly love. There's something, we were talking about last night when you've been a part of Philadelphia, you're from Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 There's just something special about it. And, you know, I know you being a Bears fan,

Speaker 1 you're longing for that. It's been since the mid-80s.
So, So, you know, we've had it more recently, and the Eagles are doing pretty good right now. So, there's a lot of love to go around.

Speaker 1 I mean, he walked in today, and Paige was showing the inside of her shoes to him. Yeah, hey, like, look at this type of green I got.
Hey, you know what?

Speaker 1 Inside the shoes, it's like the streets of Philly, of South Philly, the heart of Philly. I mean, Nike did those shoes right.
Yeah, yeah, you got to show them.

Speaker 3 If there's one city to be a legend in, I feel like Philadelphia would be a pretty good one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 it's an awesome city. I mean, if any of y'all have ever been to a game in the link, I mean, it is an amazing place to be the home team.
Yeah. If you're the weight team, it sucks.

Speaker 1 But there's also a lot of places in the NFL it's that way, right? You know, there's a lot of home field advantages, but um, Philly's amazing, you know, going back there.

Speaker 1 I'm not one to want all the limelight, so going back there and walking around, and I love seeing everyone, but I'm not built for that. Like, I'm more of a laid-back, like, even kill.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't mind going to the grocery store, not getting recognized and stuff. So, but it's a lot of love in Philly.
I mean, you have a statue, right? Yeah, there is one.

Speaker 3 statue outside the stadium it's a good statue it's a great statue

Speaker 3 it looks like me yeah it actually looks like me there's been some statues uh the last several years that just aren't great so whoever you know created the statue is it's fantastic yeah an iconic moment that will that will stand the test of time that's got to be cool to think about it's like Philadelphia will always remember this one moment and you're you're a hero forever in their eyes and yeah Philly fans they can be a little bit over the top sometimes but they also have your back were they ever down on you as a quarterback where you felt like the wrath of the Philly fans?

Speaker 1 I mean, I would say down, never the wrath, but yeah. I mean, I think part of being a Philadelphia athlete or quarterback is they're going to be down at you at times because you're not perfect.

Speaker 1 You're going to throw an interception. You're going to have some bad games.
You might even have a length of bad games, and it's going to be tough. You're going to get booed.

Speaker 1 I mean, I've even had a great game of throwing like three in completions. You're going to get a couple of booze.

Speaker 1 But I think you just have to start owning that and realize that is the city, and they have your back. They love you.

Speaker 1 But you also have to buy into that and you have to understand their perspective like blue car hardworking city like you know their grandparents their their moms their dads took them to games now they're taking their kids to games it's a generational like place so there's a lot of heart a lot of heartbreak and that's where like the super bowl year was so special because we finally were able to break that heartbreak yeah and now there's a super bowl there they want more but that's just part of you got to understand that do you think that maybe you screwed up by that one season that you had i forget how many interceptions there were just like a few just two interceptions right over the course of one year 27 and two, 27 touchdowns, two interceptions.

Speaker 3 Was that a mistake on your part to do that? Because you set the expectations.

Speaker 1 So if you

Speaker 3 throw like nine interceptions the next year, they're like, this guy sucks.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 1 It was amazing having that year, and I was having so much fun playing in chip system. It was like playing basketball.
You're just, you know, letting it rip, playing a point guard.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, it was different. You know, the next year, halfway through the season, I got injured, but I think I had thrown like 10 interceptions.
Everyone thought like

Speaker 1 everything was falling apart, but like I was still like, we were still playing well.

Speaker 1 We were six and two, but I think you do set expectations so high that you can't keep meeting that because there's always changes in the offseason. The offense starts evolving.

Speaker 1 Coaches leave, players leave. So, but yeah, I think I definitely set expectations really high in 13.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also, I would assume, like, as playing quarterback, you know, like, there's an element of luck to have that specific, like 27 and two.

Speaker 1 You know, like, okay, a couple of them might have been dropped that won't go my way next year. Oh, for sure.
I mean, I had one,

Speaker 1 you know, we're going back in time, but I think it was after the seven touchdown game we were in Green Bay and I threw like a post route down the middle to D-Jack and I think it went through like two

Speaker 1 corner and a safety's hands and then just popped up and D-Jack caught it and just walked in backwards. And I'm just like, all right, you're just filling it.

Speaker 1 You got to take the luck and the juice and that favor when it comes.

Speaker 1 But we had a lot of it that year and, you know, we were fortunate to, you know, unfortunately we didn't win the playoff game, but we still had a good year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so your Super Bowl season, Carson Wentz gets hurt in that Rams game. You come in and you're like, what's going through your mind when you come in? Because you're a really good team, and

Speaker 1 it's a weird spot to be in in the fact that you've been rolling as a team and you know that this team has big-time aspirations and now everyone's going to look at you and be like, all right, dude, don't fuck this up.

Speaker 1 Did you feel that pressure? Were you like, this team is so good,

Speaker 1 I feel like almost supported by everyone? I mean, Carson, as we all know, was having an MVP caliber year that year.

Speaker 1 And then when he got hurt on the play, he actually stayed in and threw a a touchdown the next play. And I knew something was wrong because I've been around him enough.
I know how tough he is.

Speaker 1 So I knew something was wrong. When he came off and they took him up, I knew it was going to be probably bad just from being around him and knowing his toughness.

Speaker 1 And, you know, your body knows when something like that, like I'm about to step in. So all of a sudden the adrenaline changes.
The nerves start coming.

Speaker 1 Your stomach starts getting what we say butterflies. And I think the key in that is I just took a moment, took a deep breath, you know, just said a prayer and just was like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I'm not going to be out there alone.

Speaker 1 I'm with 10 other guys in the huddle and i have a great team around me i just i need to do my job i still have to execute at a high level i can't just go out there and just sit there and hope someone else is going to make a play i'm a quarterback i have to make a play but i also know there's like an acclimation period so there was grace and understanding but that was from my you know previous part of my career in playing football my whole life like i think you have expectations to go out there and if you don't meet them then all of a sudden it gets in your head i knew i would need to acclimate so i gave myself grace and eventually it hit at the right time but yeah i mean the nerves start hitting i'm human man the next day i mean mean, I'm in a QB room, just Nate Subfeld and I watching film, and we know what's happened.

Speaker 1 We get the news about Carson. And I say we were watching film.
We had the film on. We did not watch film that day because we were both going through emotions because we're going to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 We have a great team. And then we realize it's on our shoulders.
So we just talked about that and hashed it out as humans do because it's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 1 But having that brother like Nate there during that time, you know, we developed such a brotherly bond that will last for life. Yeah.
I'm so grateful I had him.

Speaker 1 But that was the realness after the situation. It's like, we're not in there like watching film.
We're like dealing with the emotions of what is about to happen. Right.

Speaker 3 So you get to the Super Bowl that year and you're going up against the Patriots.

Speaker 3 What did you, what were your feelings? What was the mentality that you had going into that game?

Speaker 3 Because the Patriots, obviously, Dynasty, one of the greatest football teams of all time, right in the thick of their groove that they had.

Speaker 3 What was the mentality going into that game to prepare yourself to compete and eventually beat them?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think the biggest thing leading up to that, I mean, you get a bye week before the Super Bowl, so you have that time at home to go through a normal prep week.

Speaker 1 So the biggest thing was preparation and then eliminating distractions.

Speaker 1 So, a lot of going into the Super Bowl, there's a lot of hoop law, and then you know, you got a lot of tickets and you're trying to get family there.

Speaker 1 So, my wife was the instrumental part of like taking control of all that so I didn't have to deal with it.

Speaker 1 So, I could just focus on ball, wasn't on my phone a lot, wasn't like you know, I might have talked to my dad once, I was just so locked in because we have so much respect for the Patriots, one of the greatest dynasties, if not the greatest dynasties in NFL sports history.

Speaker 1 Um, we know what we're going against, so just the preparation, the hard work, you know, testing things at practice, being super aggressive at practice to test my limitations.

Speaker 1 And, you know, going into the game, I felt like we had a great preparation those two weeks. And, you know, we shredded all our papers and we hit all our stuff.

Speaker 1 And in the walkthrough, we had 13 to 15 guys. So if they did have cameras in the stadium, you know, we were set.

Speaker 1 So like when we do our walkthrough in the stadium, when we did our Super Bowl picture, like we literally had 13 guys in the huddle and we just said, do whatever you want.

Speaker 1 And we're like hiding simple place. Oh, you had like decoy guys running.

Speaker 1 You know what? I think it's just, you know, it's correct.

Speaker 1 I understood that you want to take precautions like even like when we got sheets of paper at the hotel they're like you done with that i'm like well yeah we got a new one they'll give it to me and they shred it right there wow because you took precautions like going through your trash yeah you know what any you know the teams want the advantage i mean we see it in sports all the time every team's trying to find the advantage to get the upper hand so but going into the game so much respect for the patriots um but i you know doug peterson and you know even like when i play for any reason the biggest thing they talk about is faceless opponents like don't like think about who they are, their history, or what's on their helmet.

Speaker 1 Just like they're objects out there. So just treat them as objects and play them and do your job and just execute the play.
So I just kept it simple. All right.
So I need an honest answer here.

Speaker 1 Was there any part of you when you got in the huddle, you're getting in the game, you're getting in the flow of the game, you're like, man,

Speaker 1 it would probably be a lot harder if Malcolm Butler was out there. You know what? I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 1 Faceless opponents. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I didn't even like, even like, you know, Gilmore out out there like I who's one of the greatest DBs of all time I didn't even think about it really because I had so much trust in my guys that I didn't really care who was on them and I know afterwards that was a topic and everything and you know Malcolm Butler a great player physical player You know, they were talking about how he'd you know be up in the grill holding on the guys getting them off the line But I still take Al Sean any day of the week or any of my guys.

Speaker 1 And I have so much respect for Malcolm. Like that's not me taking a slide.
That's just my mindset with them. And my teammates know that.

Speaker 1 Like I would tell them, like, I don't care if there's two guys on you, make a play. Right.
Worst case scenario, knock the dang ball down, but make a play.

Speaker 1 And I think when you tell your teammates that and they know that, that gives them a little bit extra juice when they're going there, but hey, he's going to throw me the ball even if I'm covered.

Speaker 1 So I better just be ready and I better be aggressive. Yeah.
And Al Shaw was one of those guys who could make, you know, the play whenever he was covered. He would go up and get it and be physical.

Speaker 1 The Philly special play, when that happens, walk us through it because, I mean, it's still a really cool thing to watch even the mic'd up where it's like the moment where you guys kind of, I don't know if it was you or Doug who first said, Hey, should we do this?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Was it you? Yeah, I ran over there.
We had a play call beforehand, and we called a timeout. So I ran over to Doug.

Speaker 1 And it just, you know, sometimes you have this instinct, like, hey, this play could work.

Speaker 1 You go run over to your coach almost like you're in high school or middle school, and you're like, hey, you know, you want Philly Philly. And the headset goes quiet.

Speaker 1 You know, Doug's got to make a decision. Like, he can say no.
But, you know, Doug was the quarterback coach, my quarterback coach, my rookie year. He worked me out at Westside High School.

Speaker 1 So So there's a lot of history between me and Doug and a lot of trust. So I think in that situation, he knew that my instincts were, you know, he trusted it.

Speaker 1 I mean, if I'm going to go over there and ask for Philly Philly while I'm running a route, Trey's throwing the ball and Corey's pitching it to him and we're doing the lane lane stuff.

Speaker 1 Like, he's probably thinking, if Nick's feeling confident about this right now, this is the one time we probably should run it. So I'm just grateful he allowed us to do it.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, going into the huddle, the biggest thing was just not to smile because I was excited to run it because I didn't think we'd be like talking about it here and I'd be signing Philly's special autographs all the time.

Speaker 1 For the rest of your life. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was a play that has a great name that just worked. You just needed six points on fourth and one going into halftime.
Like I, to me, that's what that play was.

Speaker 1 It was not like, hey, I'm going to run this play and I'm going to sign autographs for it afterwards. Like, no, no, no, this play will, they're not going to expect me to go on a route.

Speaker 1 They're going to be in man coverage. They're not going to account for me and it's going to work.
We just have to, you know, get the lane-lane stuff. Corey's got to get the snap.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of moving parts in it. Right.
But that was the best we ever ran it.

Speaker 1 And and tray threw an absolute dime was there any part of you when the ball is in the air where you're like don't fuck this up because that is it was so you were so wide open yeah and it was right there that it's like that actually can happen where guys no doubt will like they'll stare at it for so long they'll drop it you know previous in the game this is no slight of him because you know tom's the greatest yeah uh but they had ran a similar one um it was different but you know a quarterback going out and pass and you know it was right where i was standing on the sideline so like i saw it go through his fingertips and drop it and in my mind, that might have even put it more at the forefront of my mind, watching him do it.

Speaker 1 Like, all right, we're going to get this called, but I'm going to make sure I look this thing in.

Speaker 1 And I don't care if I look like an idiot, I'm going to look it in like I'm like in elementary school and catch the ball. I just need to catch it.
I don't want to drop it or act cool. Not that Tom was.

Speaker 1 I think Tom just had taken a rib shot or something. So he was feeling it.

Speaker 1 But no, I felt confident. I mean, I, you know, basketball player going up.

Speaker 1 I, you know, they, the reason they had me go out on routes because before every every game, I go out there catching one-handed passes and throwing it all around like I'm a kid so I can get that like kid feel, warm up the body.

Speaker 1 So I can catch the ball one-handed all that. I was not going to do it on that play, though.
I was going to look that thing in. And you see me, I make the triangle and everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was like picture perfect. Yeah, you look like a 12-year-old trying to figure out how to catch a pass.

Speaker 1 So now when I coach you sports, I say, even, you know, when you're in the Super Bowl, I'm making the triangle. I'm keeping my hands together.
I'm not, you know, trying to do all this stuff.

Speaker 1 So I have a teaching photo and a teaching kit of me going out on route.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so when you guys practiced it that week, you said that was the best that you'd run it was during the game. Yeah.
Were you confident in the play?

Speaker 3 Like you had, how many times did you practice it beforehand?

Speaker 1 You know, we had it in before we played the Vikings in the divisional round. We put it in the bye week.
And, you know, any great trick play, you know, Doug Peterson, Andy Reno say it needs marination.

Speaker 1 There's always like food terms with those guys. They love food, so marination.
You got to let it set, marinate until it's ready. You know, that does sound like Andy Reid, right?

Speaker 1 That's where it comes from. So, you know, we had had it in, and we probably ran it full speed, maybe like twice the whole month, and then walked through a few times.

Speaker 1 So it was, I don't even know if I asked Doug right now if he really thought he was going to call it that game. We had talked about it, but he might have just been making me feel better.

Speaker 1 I mean, I just talked to Jason Kelsey about it a couple weeks ago, and he said when I called it in the huddle, he's like, we're calling this play.

Speaker 1 So I didn't know he felt that way, but you're not, now we can all look back and be really happy about it. But that was the best we had ever ran it and the best trade through it and everything.

Speaker 1 The craziest part about that play, if you watch it back, is too that Torrey Smith was wide open as well. Yeah, he was not open.
I was the only option.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know you were the only option, but it was like such a well-written, drawn-up play. Like, he was running over the middle, wide open.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's just supposed to, Al Sean's supposed to, you know, create confusion. Tori's supposed to create confusion.
And then they're supposed to drop me. Yeah.
And it worked like that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So you mentioned Tom Brady and how he was not able to catch the ball earlier. But do you know that to this day, like he has a hard time saying your name? You're his kryptonite.

Speaker 3 He just won't even acknowledge you.

Speaker 1 And honestly, I think that's

Speaker 1 a huge sign of...

Speaker 1 I respect Tom so much. I feel like that is his way of giving me respect.

Speaker 1 I've actually had a time to FaceTime him, and he actually shared that there's just a lot of respect. And

Speaker 1 he's such a competitor. There's a reason he's the greatest of all time because he...
He has those emotions. And, you know, he's not focusing on all his Super Bowl wins.

Speaker 1 He's focusing on where he could have have been better, and that's why he's so great. And that's why, you know, I know even in broadcasting, he's working to continue to grow.

Speaker 1 I mean, everything he does, he's always working. That's like in his DNA.
So, I take it as a sign of respect for him. And,

Speaker 1 you know, that's saying a lot to have that from Tom.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there was a famous clip in the Patriots documentary, the Dynasty documentary.

Speaker 1 Did you see that?

Speaker 1 I didn't watch it, but I heard some things. Okay, so

Speaker 3 they had the NFL Films version of the Philly special, and they put that in, in, and he edited out Foles.

Speaker 3 Like, the word Foles has actually been removed from that as they broadcast. I think that's a pretty healthy mentality to have to be like, you know what? Tom Brady wouldn't do this about somebody that

Speaker 3 he doesn't respect because you beat him.

Speaker 1 No, for sure.

Speaker 1 But I think you have to realize that. I think at first you're like, oh, man, but then you realize, you know what, that is a sign of respect.
So you just, it's perspective. So

Speaker 1 all admiration for Tom, and that's cool. You know, like I said, we've FaceTime since then, and I know for a a fact it's just a, you know, he has a lot of respect for me, and that means a lot.

Speaker 3 He probably thinks about you all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I hope not. I don't think about it a lot, so

Speaker 1 hopefully he's think about better things than me.

Speaker 1 So you mentioned something there when you were talking about like the, you know, you played basketball and you, that's how you'd warm up.

Speaker 1 A lot of guys, obviously, in the NFL are like, yeah, I had another sport that I was really good at. You got recruited by Georgetown.
You got offered by Georgetown. Recruited.

Speaker 1 I would say, you know, I could have played potentially D1. I mean, those guys are so dynamic, though.
I was a good basketball player.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, it sounds like you were a great basketball player if those, if Georgetown, Baylor, and Texas were all looking at you. Yeah, they were all looking.

Speaker 1 You know, potentially would have had a chance to play at Baylor,

Speaker 1 but, you know, ended up at Michigan State my first year. But, you know, basketball and football, you know, if you, there's just, there's such a different

Speaker 1 feeling when you step on the court.

Speaker 1 You know, basketball, I mean, football, when you're playing quarterback, like, you're, you're trying to think about execution, you know, making sure, you know, you're always thinking about like, all right, protections, you got to be protected first, all these different things.

Speaker 1 Basketball, you're just like, I'm going to let it rip. You make a mistake on the basketball court.
You can fix it on the defensive end. Right.
You know, all the ways. And that's possession is right.

Speaker 1 Football is very different.

Speaker 1 You know, football is very different. So there's a different emotion.
My brother-in-law, you know, both of them played basketball in college. One, you know, was a two-sport athlete.

Speaker 1 Evan was a two-sport athlete at Stanford, played in the NFL for five years, you know, as a tight end. And we talk about it all the time.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, going to the football game, you're just thinking about execution and doing your job. Basketball, you're just like going out there and just letting it rip.

Speaker 1 What was your game like? What was your, you know, I was all over the place.

Speaker 1 I was a big, you know, three-point shooter, but obviously being, you know, 6'5 and I was probably in high school, you know, 235.

Speaker 1 I take it down low, big, you know, aggressive with rebounding, a little bit of everything. Yeah.
You know, definitely, you know, shot some threes.

Speaker 1 When could you first palm a basketball? Because your hands are huge. Yeah, I palmed it in middle school.

Speaker 1 First time I dunked it was eighth grade. Wow.
Jesus.

Speaker 1 That's pretty cool. That's pretty awesome.
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So when you went to Michigan State, I know that Izzo likes to get basketball players sometimes to compete against the football team to like toughen them up and to learn how to rebound.

Speaker 3 Did you ever get that call?

Speaker 1 I never got that call.

Speaker 1 When I went to the University of Arizona, though, in the offseason, you know, we did a lot of pickup ball. We had a lot of great basketball players on our football team.

Speaker 1 So we would scrimmage the basketball team at the rec center. So we had a lot of good battles with the basketball team.

Speaker 1 And that was fun because those guys, I mean, basketball players, and I just went to an NBA game not long ago.

Speaker 1 Those guys are just so talented. Like those, the guys on the court are just so athletic, big, fast.
Like The way they can play, the way they can shoot.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think I saw like 10 straight baskets made. And then you go watch college.
College players are amazing as well, but it's definitely different than the NBA. A little more chaos.

Speaker 1 It's always the shot making the NBA always just try.

Speaker 1 It always shocks me because they just do not miss open shots. They don't.
No matter what.

Speaker 1 It just doesn't happen. In college, you see it all the time.
In the NBA, they just drain it. Yeah, every single time.

Speaker 1 All right, so. I have to ask you, and I don't know how much insight you can give me, but you obviously, you played for the Bears for two two years um

Speaker 1 you also were kind of on a team that's kind of like this year's bears in the fact that it's a young quarterback and they're transitioning coaches and you were there for the last year in nagi um

Speaker 1 how much shoot me straight how much of a clusterfuck is it at house hall just from an organizational standpoint you know what they're sort of in this cycle that it's just not a healthy cycle and and what i why i say that is you know you look back to their last three um draft picks at quarterback.

Speaker 1 You know, you got Mitch, you got Justin, you got Caleb, right? So

Speaker 1 their coaching staff, at the end of their, like, their prove it year, they draft a quarterback in the first round. So they get that rookie quarterback for one year.

Speaker 1 They throw them out there with, they've been struggling. They're on their last leg.
They have to win that year to stay there. And if not, they're gone.
So they bet on everything.

Speaker 1 So then they get the rookie quarterback gets one year with the coaching staff, and then they've just been fired. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then that rookie quarterback who mind you all three of those guys are outstanding players you know caleb's a great player justin mitch all outstanding players um then they have to get a whole new regime with a whole new offense after taking a beating and going through that psychological battle as a rookie where you come from college you're the man you're a first-round pick you have all this confidence not saying you lose it all but it takes a you know it takes a hit and then you have a whole new staff and then you you have to deal with that again so it's not a great cycle you'd rather uh you know as ownership and everything, if you know that, like, don't let them draft a quarterback, even at the end of their leg, you want a new staff come in, choose a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Now, fortunately, they've inherited three great quarterbacks. Yeah.
It just hasn't worked out.

Speaker 1 So my hope for them is because, you know, playing for Chicago for two years and just seeing how much the Bears fans love the Bears and how much they want to succeed.

Speaker 1 You know, they had the great year in 2018 that, you know, I was with the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll bring it up. I'm sorry about that.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That was the only great year for a long time. Yeah.
But they just, you know, they're not far away. There's, there's you know i was in the locker room it feels so far away it feels so far away

Speaker 1 you literally were in you because you were last year mitch first year justin right yes yeah so you have you've seen it you've seen it i've seen i know it you you know it as intimate as as you can you watched it happen where it's like and then not only first year justin but last year nagi yeah and they and you know when i was there like the locker room was so good like the we had good talent we had great leadership we had great guys we had a locker room that could win um because i had seen winning locker rooms.

Speaker 1 I was like, we have a winning locker room. They're just missing some pieces outside it.

Speaker 1 And what I've seen, you know, through my career is when I started my career, I always thought it's the locker room. It's the locker.
And that is a huge part.

Speaker 1 But what helps create the locker room is top-down. You know, when I was in Philadelphia, you know, just with Mr.

Speaker 1 Lurie, just how he approached ownership, you know, in Kansas City, you know, the Hunt family. You know, I always say about Mr.
Lurie is like he was at a lot of practices.

Speaker 1 And before every game, he's in there and he goes around and shakes everyone's hand. And then, you know, he wants to win just as bad as anyone.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying that's different like in Chicago, but I just, you know, they're going to make those plays. You know, Howie Roseman's super aggressive with getting guys.
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 I mean, I love the locker room when I was here. I love my teammates when I was here.
It was unfortunate we didn't have success. I mean, Coach Nagy's had great success since he's gone back to KC.

Speaker 1 I mean, now, what does he have? Two rings? Yeah, I mean, Patrick Mahomes. I mean, Pat definitely helps, but, you know, they have a...
Yeah, I'm going to give those to Patrick Mahomes and Andy Riggs.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to let you do that.

Speaker 1 but yeah no i i so so what is a locker room like a win when you say a winning locker room because i i agree like obviously we don't we don't know the the intimacy of an nfl locker room but it does feel like culture matters a lot and yeah talent is important but like guys who feel like they want to like die for each other can go a long way yeah and and how does that like is it is there a certain amount of leaders is there a certain amount of or or is it like you said top down the owner the the gm the coach they all have to be aligned You know, you definitely want an alignment up there.

Speaker 1 I think you got to have a strong head coach.

Speaker 1 You got to have a strong personality that when they take the job, you know, you see a lot of coaches that take a lot of input from outside sources or like maybe the ownership, like, and then it changes the way that they view how they'd run a team.

Speaker 1 I always go to the example of Andy Reid. I think Andy Reid is the greatest.
I love Coach Reid. Andy Reid has a way he knows he's going to coach, and you're not going to change.

Speaker 1 He's going to listen to input. But Big Red's going to make the best decision.
Like, you might think you have said something that's really going to impact and change the way.

Speaker 1 He knows what's best for the pulse of his team, and he's going to take you that direction. He's going to lead.
Whereas sometimes we listen to outside sources, and then we'd be like, you know what?

Speaker 1 Because so-and-so said this, I need to do it. Maybe ownership said, hey, you need to do this.
And then you do it. Coach Reed, they trust Coach Reid.

Speaker 1 Rightfully so, to make those decisions and do those things. So in my opinion, you know, ownership's got to be strong, but you have to have a head coach that can take the reins.
And he just goes.

Speaker 1 And he makes all those decisions.

Speaker 1 But when he's in front of the team, like you have a lot of guys and a lot of different personalities and a lot of different backgrounds which i think is so awesome about like football because you come together as one and you go on the field as one and you there's you know all these different backgrounds but you need someone at the you know lead of it the head coach that's like gonna you know do all that like you know coach tomlin like how much success has he had in pittsburgh with all these different things you know he has a way he leads that is his way yeah it's no one else's he's not gonna be anyone else so if i'm getting a head coach i'm gonna be like hey i want a coach with a personality that's going to move a room.

Speaker 1 Now, the locker room, you got to have talent, you got to have guys, and you got to put egos to this side to be great. Because if egos come in, it can be, you know, toxifying to a locker room.

Speaker 1 But what helps that is a head coach that sees that and stops it before it gets started. So I don't know.
Andy Reid was always a great example for me in doing that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he also had Big Dom.

Speaker 3 I think Big Dom helps the locker room, too.

Speaker 1 You know, Big Dom, you know, he has a great pulse on the locker room and the guys. Yeah, he does.

Speaker 1 And, you know, he's one of my, you know, just being in Philadelphia, just going and sitting with Big Dom and his, you know, his office is one-tenth this size. It's literally just like a little story.

Speaker 1 And he loves it. He loves it.

Speaker 1 You know, he has a great, because they're not going to let things fly. They're, you know, if something's going on, they're going to, you know, nip it in the butt.
They're going to knock it out.

Speaker 1 They're not going to let it fester. They're going to find a way to get through it.
And that's why they have success in Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 That's why the teams that have success, when things become toxifying the locker room, they stop it before it gets started.

Speaker 1 Whereas, you know, teams that ultimately fall apart, it's the coach feels uncomfortable to like step in because of the, you know, Mac.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's like a high-paid player or something like that, and it's scary. But like, we're all human beings.
We're all players. We want to succeed at this level.

Speaker 1 Sometimes we just need a coach to come in and intervene and like, you know, separate and then let's talk this thing out.

Speaker 1 Usually when you talk it out and you put everything on the table, we usually get through it. I mean, that's just part of it.
Do you think Big Dom had A.J. Brown and Jalen Hurts have a sit-down?

Speaker 1 You know what? I have no information on that. I do know if it's...
Would that surprise you if Big Dom was like, hey, boys, we got to have a sit-down? It would not surprise me

Speaker 1 if Big Dom came over and was like, hey, no, like, that would not surprise me. Yeah.
But I have no idea if that happened. If it happened, yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 3 I do have another Big Dom question. Just walk me through, like, what's Big Dom's day-to-day?

Speaker 1 What does he do? You know what? When I was there, it's very different. The guy, you know, Big Dom's a celebrity now.
I mean, he's going to, like, you know, take pictures and sign a hoggass.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's, he's big, sexy. So, uh,

Speaker 1 you know, his day-to-day, I mean, he's there in the morning, goes to his office. I mean, I could not tell you everything that man does.
That man is a secret weapon for the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 1 He's been that way for a long time. But it's funny just seeing him, you know, being around him.
And that's my guy. And just seeing him in his track suits.
Yeah, he's the best.

Speaker 3 He used to be the best kept secret. And me and Big Cat were upset that we didn't know about Big Dom until just a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 We were mad at Max on the 49ers game when Big Dom was introduced to America. We're like, you've been keeping this from us? Yeah, why isn't Big Dom here with me right now? He should be.

Speaker 3 He sent us some footballs.

Speaker 1 I think he autographed some footballs.

Speaker 1 He texts me.

Speaker 1 He calls me my, he says you're my paisons to us so he's we're i think we're big dom approved and then i'm at the super bowl and he was uh i i forget what he said like i was like kid rock on mushrooms or something like that it was the highest compliment i've ever almost arrested you

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Speaker 3 So Max is a huge Eagles fan, big Philly sports guy. I'm sure he has some questions for you.

Speaker 1 He said many, many questions. Oh, we got to put the headphones on.
They're right next to you. Oh, I got it.
Yeah, there you go. Look at that.
I said few for the record. Okay, few.

Speaker 1 So, how many is a few?

Speaker 1 I think I have three. Three questions.
I didn't write any of them down.

Speaker 1 You also screwed up Nick, giving him like a short chord on the phone. That's all right.
I'm making it work. That's Hank.
That's Hank.

Speaker 1 Hank also, by the way, couldn't listen. He didn't have his headphones on the entire time back here.
He couldn't listen? Couldn't listen to a single word that he was saying.

Speaker 1 Hank's like Tom Brady's fan. He literally left.
Yeah. Yeah.
He walked out. This is an ultimate sign of his own.
So

Speaker 1 he walked out for a meeting. I'll give him credit for that.
But as soon as he got it,

Speaker 1 he was talking about the Super Bowl. He said he couldn't listen.
He couldn't listen. All right.
Go ahead, Max.

Speaker 1 First of all, I want to thank you for everything you've done for the city of Philadelphia and for the people of Philadelphia. You're the best, and I love you.

Speaker 1 This is very similar to what Luca Brazzi and the Godfather, like,

Speaker 1 you know, practicing his speech, like, hey, I just wanted to thank you on your daughter's wedding day.

Speaker 1 He's got his notes right in front of him, so he's good.

Speaker 1 I got nothing. You can see

Speaker 1 what I'm looking at.

Speaker 1 First question,

Speaker 1 Philly Philly call. Had you ever gone to Peterson before and like recommended another call, or was that a one-and-done situation?

Speaker 1 You know, I've definitely had times in my life where I've gone over to coaches and recommended plays.

Speaker 1 You know, before the Philly Philly call with Doug, I'm sure we talked about things on a sideline.

Speaker 1 The next big moment play call that I ran over to the Doug for was actually against the Bears in the playoff game.

Speaker 1 I was like, hey, let's do Q8 to Golden Tate and let's just run it because we had two plays called and they were doing like a 0-0 hole coverage, which basically means it looks like they're bringing everyone, but they can also drop out.

Speaker 1 And so that was the next time, but that was the next year. So there's only a few times that I've run over there because usually, you know, Doug's a a great play caller.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, most of the time when he'd call plays, I'd approve. And I knew what he was thinking.
That was the biggest thing with quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 That if you have quarterbacks listening to this, the biggest thing you can do is, you know, know your play caller and why they're calling a play.

Speaker 1 You know, that's the what's the intentionality of the play. So I knew that with Doug.
So I really never had to do that other than that. Were you confident that he was going to say yes to that?

Speaker 1 I mean, that is a crazy call. You know what?

Speaker 1 I think me mispronouncing the name of the play, the Philly special, and asking for Philly Philly, I don't know if it it was all the commercials on TV or what it was that were going Philly Philly.

Speaker 1 Maybe rattled his brain to where he just said yes. But no, I, you know, we had talked about it.

Speaker 1 We were more thinking second half, go up by two scores, you know, safer place to do it, not fourth and one in that situation.

Speaker 1 But at the same time, like I said, you know, when a quarterback runs over there and you trust the quarterback, a lot of times the coach goes with it.

Speaker 1 Okay, that was great. That was it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's letting it soak in.
He just

Speaker 1 re-visioned. He just thought about that memory one more time.

Speaker 1 I thought that was great. I'll never forget where I was.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I know it's been said before, I think, in different media outlets.

Speaker 1 Where did the Hungry Dogs thing start? And what was the story of that came from there? Yeah, Hungry Dogs Run Faster

Speaker 1 was from, you know, and this is from my knowledge, and, you know, I'll get fact check, but from Jeff Stoutland, the offensive line coach, who is still at Philadelphia and, you know, is with Chip Kelly, Doug Peterson, and, you know, now with Siriani, he's just an amazing O-line coach, does a great job.

Speaker 1 The guys love him. I mean, the line play consistently since 2013 has been fantastic.
And that's one, been because of the O-lineman and the quality of O-linemen, but also because of Coach Stoutland.

Speaker 1 So that's one of his sayings is, you know, hungry dogs run faster. And that's the mentality he wanted from his O-line.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, the underdog stuff came in because, you know, we were one of the top teams statistically going into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 But then when I took over, we then became the least feared, which we printed all over our facility.

Speaker 1 So even when you went to the restroom and you went number two, where you thought you could have peace from everything, you look to your right and it's just on the wall. So there was a reminder.

Speaker 1 Like what it reminded me of is like, don't take anything for granted. No one expects anything from us.
So put in the work. So Coach Stout, like that was forever.

Speaker 1 That wasn't just because they were underdogs in every game. Like all year, he was saying hungry dogs run faster.

Speaker 1 From what I know, that's always been one of his sayings in the O-line. And then it just sort of transformed to the underdog mentality and then, you know, underdog mentality with what is underdog?

Speaker 1 Well, hungry dogs run faster.

Speaker 1 But once again, now I got another

Speaker 1 guest for y'all. Get Coach Stout on the show.
He'd be better than me. Yeah, no, I think they just came out with NFL Films about him last night.
I didn't get to watch it. Yeah, he's fantastic.

Speaker 1 I mean, fantastic. Yeah.
Eagles O-line, always the best. Yep.
All right.

Speaker 4 Last question, I think.

Speaker 1 You talked a little bit about the Philly media. They like to emphasize drama.
What was a quarterback room like when you were taking over?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, they're always going to emphasize drama. I mean, we had a really solid quarterback room in Philadelphia.
I mean, with Carson, Nate, and I was really solid.

Speaker 1 Obviously, with Carson going down, I mean, that, you know, the one thing I always do with my teammates is try to put myself in what they're going through, whether it's an injury or, you know, that's difficult.

Speaker 1 So, you know, with Carson having such an amazing year and then getting injured like that down the stretch, and then, you know, we keep going, that's tough, man. He handled that so well.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it was a really great quarterback room, and we've all stayed in touch. I'm, you know, I was in Nate Sudfeld's wedding, and, you know, when Carson went to Kansas City, I...

Speaker 1 I texted him and was like, pump for him because I got to play for Kansas City in 16 with Andy and just said how much he's going to love it. And, you know, I was like, hey, go get some burn-ins.

Speaker 1 You know, make sure you enjoy it while you're there. So really, you know, for the NFL standards, a great quarterback room.

Speaker 1 I love what Max did right there because he was like, you know, the Philly media, they always try to get drama. Can you please talk some shit about Carson Wentz? That wasn't what I said.
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 He was a newer person.

Speaker 1 I was just acknowledging that that was something that was being talked about at that time.

Speaker 3 I also like how you say the word drama with a J.

Speaker 1 There was a lot of

Speaker 3 drama.

Speaker 1 That's what Philly media likes to do. They're doing it right now.
You're doing it right now.

Speaker 1 You're literally doing it. Max.

Speaker 1 I wanted him to give the opportunity to say that the Philly media media overemphasizes things, and that's what's going on with Jalen Hurts and A.J. Brown right now.

Speaker 1 They were saying that Nick and Carson were, that Carson was pissed off that he was there, and I wanted to give him the chance to say that that wasn't true, or if it was true.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, you got it from me that we had a great quarterback room, and

Speaker 1 the life emotions definitely go in, but we had a great quarterback room in the sense of like caring for one another and having like, you know, being there during an injury, being there during a difficult situation.

Speaker 1 And, you know, the Philadelphia media is nationally known for, you know, being, you know, putting stuff out there and being aggressive with it. I mean, that's what they do.

Speaker 1 And that's their job to do that. That's how they put food on the table for, you know, their family.
And that's what they're asked to do.

Speaker 1 It is a, you know, when you go into the media and the thing with them is I always had a great relationship with the media because I eventually just took the perspective. I was like, listen.

Speaker 1 These are human beings. I know what they're doing.
I know they have to ask these questions. They have maybe they want to ask you or their boss is telling them like, you have to ask this.

Speaker 1 It's my job to not get offended or be upset about it and if i can't answer a question i just have to pivot it and give them something to write about like they have to write something so instead of just being upset and like oh oh why'd you ask this like you know i i'd eventually be like you know i can't answer that so nice try but what i can give you is this but it was more just having that because i mean you don't want the media mad at you right in philly i mean if they're mad at you they're gonna go at you so i always want to treat them as human beings and have that perspective and in doing so um i felt like I had a really great relationship with them.

Speaker 1 And I never really had an issue with it. I actually had fun going into the media.
I changed my perspective.

Speaker 1 I was like, when I go into this, I get my, you know, heads up, like, hey, here's some stuff that's going on. But I'm like, all right, let's see what they're going to try to ask.

Speaker 1 As opposed to like, I hope they don't ask this because I'm going to get pissed off. I was like, let me see if they go this way.
And if they did, I just had fun with it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Would you listen to Philly media? Would you find yourself in the car tuned in?

Speaker 1 No, I actually don't listen to much. I don't literally listen to media.
I listen to country music, some Christian raps and Christian music, and then my kids running around screaming. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's about it.

Speaker 3 To me, there would be like a little bit of morbid curiosity where I would know that it wouldn't be healthy for me, but I'd find myself on the drive into the facility and I'd be like, let's just see what WIP is saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would do like one minute of radio on, one minute off. Yeah.
She'd be like, all right, give me a little tape. You're going to do like a little interval save.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. That's your mental.
So the problem with that, okay, if you're a normal fan, I get it.

Speaker 1 But if you're a player or a coach, and I know the coaches, the normal coach out there actually do listen and they could say it's their prep work for the media and stuff but my thing is this it goes back to what I said at the beginning with like coach read and stuff like you have to have a clear-cut direction of where you want to go without the outside sources coming in so the second you bring in someone talking potentially bad or ill or draw dramatic about your team no matter what you do it's going to be a part of your mind like you're not tough enough to say I'm not going to let this affect me.

Speaker 1 It might affect you 1%, but that 1%, you're going to need need to be the best that you can be in the NFL.

Speaker 1 So that's why I think, you know, anytime you do that as a, you know, coach or a player, you're creating clutter in your brain that you don't want in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's better to just ignore it completely.

Speaker 3 If you hear them say like one thing nice about you, if you have a good game and you tune in real quick and they're like, oh, Nick Foles, he's the best.

Speaker 1 This guy's the best. You don't want that either.

Speaker 3 And then you don't want that either because when you have a bad game, they say something bad about you.

Speaker 3 Then that's going to absolutely crush you because you already put, you gave them power in the first place to like have your emotions affected by them. So you don't want to swing the other way.

Speaker 3 What about the offseason after the Super Bowl? Was there, did you think that, like, hey, I might just stick around in Philly for a little bit?

Speaker 4 You know what?

Speaker 1 I knew that I was signed for two years. So I was signed to go there as the backup Carson for two years.

Speaker 1 So I was under contract, and I love Philadelphia. I wish, you know, it's one of those places you wish you could play your whole career, and that's why I retired there.
But

Speaker 1 we restructured my deal. I wasn't going to be like, hey,

Speaker 1 I want to be released.

Speaker 1 So we restructured it and added some bonus protection and all that if I played again. But after winning the Super Bowl,

Speaker 1 that never crossed my mind. You're so busy, too.
We wrote a book. You're doing different tours and it just happens.

Speaker 1 Our daughter Lily was seven, eight months old when we won it. You're going on shows.
So then all of a sudden the offseason hits. And it was really nice going back to Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I took all the reps in the offseason as Carson healed. But, you know, once he came back, I was running Scout Team.
And it was good for my heart, though.

Speaker 1 You know, you go from winning the Super Bowl and being Super Bowl MVP, and then all of a sudden, you're running Scout Team, and it's just part of it.

Speaker 1 But it was a lot of, you know, I love the, I love the guys, the locker room, and I really loved going to work there.

Speaker 1 But I knew after that season, when Carson in 18, when we beat the Bears in the playoffs, and I say that, but I'm also

Speaker 1 a bear. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I knew that game broke Matt Nagy's brain forever. I know.
Yeah. I know.
I remember running that same play in practice as a bear, and I completed it. It broke his brain.

Speaker 1 And I, and I, and they were just like, oh, we can't have you run that play.

Speaker 1 like i'm like dang there's some ill will towards here but um yeah i think you know i was excited to go back and we restructured it and i'm glad i had 18.

Speaker 1 i'm glad you know i didn't have to go reset somewhere else after winning the super bowl and being there you know we love it like i said that's why i retired there is how much i love the eagles was that a humbling moment like you you're super bowl mvp and then boom scout team

Speaker 1 you know it's definitely humbling but you know god worked so much in my heart through the years and you know when i almost stepped away from the game after my year in St.

Speaker 1 Louis, that I realized when I came back to the game, I was like, you know, whatever I do, I want to glorify God throughout that. So I just looked at that as another, you know, opportunity to do so.

Speaker 1 And, you know, God had done such a work that he took the, you know, maybe the football being an idol or my identity. And I was like, you know what? You know, you're a representation of me.

Speaker 1 You're not perfect. I'm, I'm a, you know, I'm a human.
I'm sinful. I, I'm, I've fallen short, but like, I, I got to be an example in that situation.

Speaker 1 So you definitely have to fight the demons of like, man, like when I'd walk into the facility, like the first picture is like me catching the Philly special on the Super Bowl 52 logo.

Speaker 1 But then I reminded, like, I get to be an example in the locker room with the young guys, the guys coming in, the guys that are here.

Speaker 1 You know, even I remember when we were going to London for the London game, you know, all the starters were in the first class because they're playing.

Speaker 1 And then I'm in the back of the plane, you know, with a lot of the, you know, scout team and guys who are, you know, back up because I was back up.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we even had some starters come back there with me. I was like, well, Nick's in the back of the plane.
You know, I'm going to be back there too.

Speaker 1 So it was one of those things where it was really cool.

Speaker 1 And I just didn't want to let that ego uh you know take over my heart because if it does it can become toxic to the team yeah max was just shaking his head like don't let nick force in the back of the plane he was upset about that so when you look back because it's it's really interesting your career is fascinating because you had the highs the lows like backup a bunch of different teams Do you look back and you're just like, well, at least, you know, there was that year I proved that like what my peak was.

Speaker 1 And like that was, I was able to find, I was able to show everyone, this is the guy that was inside me the whole time. And yeah, there was some time, you know, the Jaguars didn't go so well.

Speaker 1 And, you know, there's, there's times where you bounce around. You even said you thought about retiring.
But do you, do you look back and the first thing you think of is like, yeah, see that?

Speaker 1 I, I was able to prove to everyone I'm a Super Bowl MVP. You know, I look back on my career just because it was such a wild journey, you know, from the beginning to the end.

Speaker 1 And I look back with gratitude.

Speaker 1 And the one thing is funny because like, you know, growing up and growing in my faith and through different situations in life, I always prayed for wisdom.

Speaker 1 So, like, I feel like you want to be downloaded with wisdom. I just download it.
Like, we download it, update it on our iPhone or Android, or whatever y'all. Yeah, no worries.
Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you, Android? I go back and forth. I'm on iPhone right now, but I go back and forth.
I go back. I like technology.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hey, I like testing out.
I always try to, you know, test different things out.

Speaker 1 But when I look back at it,

Speaker 1 I gained a lot of wisdom through the ups and downs. And, you know, even the, you know, when we got to the high,

Speaker 1 I had the heart to realize that, you know, this is really special. Embrace it, enjoy it.
And it's about the journey and the people alongside it. It's not about the trophy.

Speaker 1 It's about, you know, you remember the moments, the tough moments, because it was so hard to get there.

Speaker 1 And then why was I able to endure those moments with my teammates? Well, it was because of the...

Speaker 1 bad moments before that I thought were bad that taught me something inside when every time we'd step on the field, we'd get killed. Maybe when I was in St.

Speaker 1 Louis, when I was struggling, when I got benched,

Speaker 1 you know, where I almost left the game and came back to Kansas City. All those different moments come to fruition.

Speaker 1 And I realized how much wisdom I gained to where now I am retired and, you know, raising three children.

Speaker 1 And raising kids is not easy because you're being intentional and all the different things go on, but it's also the most special thing in life. But I say that as it's also very hard.

Speaker 1 So, you know, even coaching you sports, there's a lot of wisdom, and I'm grateful for that. So when I look back, I know what I was able to do.
I showed moments of that, but I also think it was a great

Speaker 1 example of how important important a team is yeah you know it wasn't me it was my teammates and our coaches and everything together so whenever i had success everyone always says like why did you have so much success in philadelphia well they have a great owner they have you know how he's done a great job as gm and they've done great with coaches and the locker room they they have a system that they hold to and then also i think the fan base the fan base really like makes you know it's like we said like they're gonna hold you accountable just as much if not more than any fan base so like you better lock in because because you can't go out there complacent on Sunday or Monday or Thursday, whenever you're playing.

Speaker 1 Like, you have to bring it every single day because those fans are going to let you hear it. So, you, you remember that when you said, it's not that way all the time.

Speaker 1 Sometimes the stadium is not even full, so there's not that accountability.

Speaker 3 So, when you almost walked away from the game, that was in St. Louis after St.

Speaker 1 Louis. I just, it was such a turmoil of years.
The year that the last year there in St. Louis, going to LA, and there was a lot of different moving parts that happened.

Speaker 1 And I had just been traded from Philadelphia, and it was just, I just did not have fun playing the game, lost heart for the game and really needed to take a, you know, deep breath.

Speaker 1 And I just feel like playing football, you know, in the NFL, it's a business. But at the same time, like, you got to play the game with a childlike heart and a love for the game.

Speaker 1 Like, that's got to be a part of it. So I had lost that part of it.
And I didn't know if I was going to get it back.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, went through this journey and, you know, it was all based on a journey God had presented before me. You know, my wife was such a huge piece of that.

Speaker 3 I read that she wrote you a letter.

Speaker 1 She wrote me a letter that I keep in a Bible at my house. And, you know, I have several different study Bibles and everything.

Speaker 1 And occasionally, whenever I'm using that study Bible, it'll be there and I'll reread it. And

Speaker 1 it was her being an amazing wife and best friend. And just, one, challenging me, but two, realizing like she was there no matter what I decided.

Speaker 1 But she also felt like I was going through something and I needed to face it head on and not let that darkness overtake me.

Speaker 3 So was it a handwritten letter?

Speaker 1 It was, she typed it up. I think she probably handwrote it and then typed it up.
But it's,

Speaker 3 And then she just handed you what she's like. She's a great writer.
She's like, here are my words. And then you sat down, you read a letter.
That's very old school, but it sounds like it was powerful.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a long letter. It was like four pages.
So it was a long letter. I mean, you have to think back now every now and then being like, what if I had retired?

Speaker 1 I know money's not everything, but you ended up making like $60 more million dollars and won a Super Bowl MVP. That's an all-time what-if.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's crazy. Yeah, I mean, in the moment that I decided to go back and play, I'll never forget it.

Speaker 1 You know, we were in California, and I was, you know, I just got back from a camping trip with Tori's brother, Ryan.

Speaker 1 We went camping and fly fishing, and, you know, it was actually the first time I had peace since I was probably a kid because football did not consume me.

Speaker 1 I had just been released from the Rams, so I was free. No team controlled me.

Speaker 1 I got to go on a camping trip. Andy Reid and I were texting because I was a free agent, and, you know, he wanted me to go to KC, and I just told him, like, hey, I think I'm done.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to go on this trip and just enjoy being out in the wilderness and fly fishing. I never got a chance to do that because I was always training.

Speaker 1 And then I got back and I had to deal with, you know, six teams that called and all these different things. And Tori and I are talking about everything.

Speaker 1 And it's just really hard for me to take because I'm not ready to make a decision. And I just didn't feel like I could do it.

Speaker 1 But then I remember just saying a prayer, you know, prayer to God, like, God, like, I really don't know what to do. I'm struggling.

Speaker 1 And, you know, there was the calming voice or something inside me, whatever it was, discernment from the Holy Spirit that said, just move. Yeah.
Like, stop being paralyzed. You're living in fear.

Speaker 1 That doesn't come from me.

Speaker 1 Either retire and I'll be with you and I love you and I'll be be with you or go back and play. And then the ultimate deciding factor is what are you most afraid of?

Speaker 1 Like what is, and I was most afraid of going back to play. So that's why I made the decision.
It was like, that was the thing I did not want to do, but I was most afraid of.

Speaker 1 And I knew that he'd be walking alongside me. So I called Andy Reid.
I left. My wife thought I was calling my agent to just put in my retirement papers.
Wow. And she had no idea.

Speaker 1 Because the conversation had gone where I was probably going to retire. Yeah.
Because we're like in tears. It's close.
It was tough. And she was there and she's our rock of our family.
I walk outside.

Speaker 1 I call Andy Reid, and I'm like, hey, if you'll have me, the training camp's already a week or two in. I was like, I'll come.
I was like, and I told him 100% what was going on in my heart. So he knew.

Speaker 1 I'm like, hey, but if the love of the game can come back, I know it's playing for you in Kansas City. And if you'll still have me, I'd be honored to come here and give it a shot.

Speaker 1 Because training camp, you have so many guys. So like, if I don't cut it and I lose heart, they're just going to cut me anyway.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 So I called my agent, told him, and then I hadn't thrown a ball for like three, four months or something.

Speaker 1 So that night, you know, I called Tori's brothers, Evan and Ryan, who, like I said, both great athletes.

Speaker 1 I'm like, hey, we got to go find a field and throw. I got to see if I can still throw this thing.
So I went through. And then like a day later, I'm on a fight KC, you know, get to training camp.

Speaker 1 They don't have like pads or shoes or helmet that fit a quarterback because they didn't count on that. So like I'm wearing number one.

Speaker 1 I'm wearing like lineman shoes, receiver shoulder pads, and like a random helmet. And I felt.
So dumb like immortal. I just felt like an imposter.
Right.

Speaker 1 But it was the fourth day of training camp where I woke up and I was doing my Bible study and watching film.

Speaker 1 And honestly, like full transparency, like tears came to my eyes because I realized it was the first time in a long time I was pumped to go to practice. I hadn't felt that in a long time.

Speaker 1 So that year in 2016, being with the Kansas City Chiefs was my favorite year of football because of everything it led to.

Speaker 1 And that's why when, you know, I cook with Chef Donnie and, you know, I do all these different things. Like Big Red is always a big part of like my journey.

Speaker 1 And I'm super grateful for him having me and the leader he is as a head coach. Yeah, I mean, it sounds like Andy Reid, like, not save your career, but like, he

Speaker 1 having that relationship with him and having someone you can call and be like, hey, here's, because if you, if you call, uh, you said six teams called you.

Speaker 1 If you call one of those other teams and you're like, hey, I don't know if I really want to do it, they'd be like, all right, fine, fuck you, don't come on. No doubt.

Speaker 1 You know, but like, Andy Reed being like, no, I want to give you this opportunity, that's awesome. Yeah, and he drafted me.

Speaker 1 So he knew me for my rookie year and playing and going through the draft process. And we stayed in touch after.

Speaker 1 And, you know, even when I was with Chip and having success, I'd always get a text from Andy. And,

Speaker 1 you know, that meant a lot to me. And that was, you know, really, really special.
And that's why, you know, he means so much. And I had so much fun.
You know, Alex Smith, Tyler Bray, our QB room.

Speaker 1 You know, Coach Nagy was our offensive coordinator. It just, you know, it showed me so much structure.
Alex's preparation was amazing.

Speaker 1 So I got to learn a lot from him and his preparation and just the man he is. And we had a really great quarterback room that the environment was healthy.
We had a lot of success.

Speaker 1 You know, I played in two games that year and had success and sort of got my mojo back. So Andy Reid gets credit for the Eagles Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And also Alex Smith might be the best starting quarterback of all time to be a backup quarterback for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's yeah, he's, you know, yeah, he's done, you know, durable, done, you know, just such an amazing player, such an amazing leader.

Speaker 1 And I will tell you this, like, Alex in the facility, the way he locks in at the facility is...

Speaker 1 Truly amazing because then we'd have like quarterback date nights and I'm like so used to like like with the wives not quarterbacks

Speaker 1 I assume that's been fine.

Speaker 3 Wait, did you have quarterback date nights in Philly with Carson Wentz?

Speaker 1 How close were we?

Speaker 1 We did a couple.

Speaker 1 So Carson was not used to. Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 Nate wasn't married. Nate just got married a year ago.
They're about to have their first kid. They might have had their first kid right now.
And then Carson was not married at the time. Okay.

Speaker 1 So is it just a moment?

Speaker 3 He was not invited to date night. Got it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I did date night with my wife. Okay, so you had skipped.

Speaker 3 So you and Carson Wentz were not as close as you were.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but context is everything. You're not married.

Speaker 1 But you had a girlfriend?

Speaker 1 He had a new girlfriend who's now his wife. Oh, okay.
And they have, you know,

Speaker 3 sounds like things weren't so rosy. That's interesting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, see, y'all are just like, I see what y'all are doing. This is why y'all do what you do.
This is why y'all do what y'all do.

Speaker 3 In Philly, did you ever learn all the lyrics to Dreams and Nightmares?

Speaker 1 I did not, but

Speaker 1 to this day, when that song comes on, so I listen to like the beat and everything. When that song comes on,

Speaker 1 there's something inside of me that just juices me up because of like running out of the tunnel and what it meant to our team and Meek Mill and everything he's going through like that song forever will like get me going yeah yeah that was i mean yeah that was a

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Speaker 1 So, my last question was, do you want to give, we've kind of been, you know, singing your praise, Nick Fole, Super Bowl MVP, everything.

Speaker 1 Do you want to give us any credit for not asking a question question about everyone saying you have a big dick? Well, I mean, in a way, you just sort of did that. No, no, no, no, you didn't.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Do you want to give us credit?

Speaker 3 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, if you ask the question, so we're doing this, and, you know, like when I go on the show, I'm like, all right, you know, is it weird that the first thing I thought of is like, that's going to be the question?

Speaker 1 Didn't ask the question. Didn't ask the question.
Play the tape back. I asked if we

Speaker 1 get credit for not bringing up the fact that other people say that you have a big dick. So it's really the question is, do we get credit?

Speaker 1 Y'all do get credit. Okay, there we go.

Speaker 1 But, you know, it's, you know,

Speaker 1 yeah, I mean, y'all get credit for not asking.

Speaker 1 Now we get the awkwardness of it all. So you get what you need.

Speaker 3 We get credit. Speaking of Roebeck, they've got very roomy pants and joggers and shorts for all types of bodies.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say, Max? I was going to ask if there's ever anyone in Philly who's asked you to that who has asked you to sign their dick. What?

Speaker 1 All right, so now you can take the credit away because he made it even worse.

Speaker 1 That arguably was a little worse because then when you ask the question, then you're like thinking about what he just asked. You're like, what? I feel like

Speaker 1 you're

Speaker 1 crazy. I could see it.

Speaker 1 Or like tattoo.

Speaker 1 Gratefully, no.

Speaker 1 But there's a lot of tattoos of the Super Bowl 52 or me.

Speaker 1 Funny story. Funny story about a tattoo.
So I was in San Francisco doing a speaking thing, and I'd been in Philadelphia for a few days with Sam Fran before I went back to SoCal.

Speaker 1 and I really needed to go like get a shower because I travel cross-country in the morning. So, I'm like, all right, there's a YMCA.
So, I go to the YMCA.

Speaker 1 I'm like, all right, hopefully, you know, these gyms now with day passes, I don't even know. I just work out in my garage.

Speaker 1 So, I go in there, walk in, I'm in San Francisco, and I'm like, hey, do you have a, and the guy just pauses, he's staring at me, and my marketing agent, buddy Austin's with me, and I'm like, and he just lifts up his shirt, and it's just a full Super Bowl 52 tattoo.

Speaker 1 And this is San Francisco. Wow.
So I was like, oh, wow. And, you know, I was like, so I can get a day pass.
Like, yeah, we get free day passes anyway.

Speaker 1 But I'm like, well, you're going to give me a free day pass.

Speaker 1 So I need a shower. Yeah.
But yeah, that's just sort of the, you know, they're

Speaker 1 everywhere. They love the team.
They love the city. And it's an amazing fan.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Max, was that you asking him if he would sign your penis?

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 No, no, that's not what I was saying. That's what it sounded like to me.
That's not what I was saying. I just, I really wanted to ask, like, what was the craziest Philly thing that you saw?

Speaker 1 And then you talked about that. And then it made me think, damn, I wonder if that has ever happened.
Listen, in terms of rumors about you, it's the best one that you can have.

Speaker 1 The best possible rumor to have. And I don't even think it's a rumor, but in terms of people talking about something.
Yeah, I mean, it could be worse. Yeah, very worse.

Speaker 1 I mean, listen, I have a small dick. So, like, that sucks.

Speaker 3 I've never had that rumor start about me.

Speaker 3 I've never had former teammates go on podcasts and be like, hey, yeah, I'd just like to confirm the size of TFT's dick for you.

Speaker 3 That's the dream scenario.

Speaker 1 Wait, so what is the last, last question? What is the craziest Philly fan story or weird or request that you've gotten

Speaker 1 that was basically what i was meant to ask yeah you just did a terrible job like hey dude did anyone ask you to sign your dick yeah i mean you know you'll run in occasionally like maybe an image of you know uh a dick yeah

Speaker 1 um you know stuff like that but you know usually it's it's not too crazy um they i think they know me too so they yeah you know a lot of it's just like a philly special thing or something like that so yeah they're helpful like us.

Speaker 1 You did not ask the question. I did not ask the question.
You didn't ask the question. He brought in a worse question.
Max. I disgusted him.

Speaker 1 I didn't even ask him. But my thing is this, can we tell people?

Speaker 1 But Max back there is thinking, like, what can I ask? Like, my question is, like, how do you get to that? Yeah. Because he was thinking, he was thinking in his head.

Speaker 1 He was like, I think Nick Foles has had a good enough time on this interview. He'll sign my dick later.
That's not what I was saying. That's absolutely.
That's not what I was saying.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 Not what I was saying. Because he's done this before with guests.
He's had guests sign his dick. So he was like,

Speaker 1 and then he goes and gets it tattooed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, his dick is like a wall of graffiti. Nope, this is incorrect.
This is incorrect. This is not how I wanted this podcast to end.

Speaker 1 You became a huge part of this podcast. Nope.

Speaker 1 Now on social media, when we pump out, y'all pump out all the this is like what you're pumping out. Yeah, he's going to be very upset about that.
World just popped into my head.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 All right, wait, so last last question. You have a merch brand now.
So you're wearing the hats. Yes.
Dad season. Dad season.
I like it. Dads need more representation.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 story about it. So like Pat O'Donnell was punting for the 49ers, teammate in Chicago.

Speaker 1 One of my best friends,

Speaker 1 we co-founded the brand Dad Season. And at the beginning of any brand, the idea was 2023 really got going in 2024 throughout the course of this year.
It's like, how are we going to do this?

Speaker 1 You're figuring out what is a podcast? Is this? And we're like, you know what? Let's do great hats. Let's do merch.

Speaker 1 So right now in 2025, we have a great plan to scale more merch, more hoodies, more shirts. We want like performance golf, performance.

Speaker 1 The hat I'm wearing right now is a hydro performance hat. So, you know, moisture wicking, water repellent.
These will come out in like January. So we want to create and spec out great hats.

Speaker 1 So we have a line of that. And, you know, it's dadszn.com and then on our social.
But, you know, it's been a lot of great feedback.

Speaker 1 And we're also going to make things for, you know, we have a mom brand coming out. We have kids stuff coming out.

Speaker 1 You know, a Philly Philly girl hat because we have a Philly line that's really cool. Love it.
And then we're going to do stuff for people that are not dads.

Speaker 1 You know, we have, you know, we're going to drop a lot of our performance hats without, you know, just our logo on the side that even if you want to wear it, like you can wear it.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, you want Philly Philly Beanie just because we have the Philly Philly dad line. So we have a lot of great ideas.
My brain is always churning with ideas and we have a great team.

Speaker 1 We're truly small. It's, you know, Pat, myself, and our wives are heavily a part of it.
And then we have, you know, a small team of people that,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 love the brand. They're dads and they love what we're doing, and they help with the, you know, as we grow in content and merchandise planning and scaling.
So, it's pretty awesome. Nice.

Speaker 1 Being a dad rocks. Yeah.
It's fun.

Speaker 1 Sometimes it's not fun. In Chicago, it becomes a little more difficult because of the cold weather, huh? Yeah.
Well, thank God we have this office. I just have my kids just come here and run around.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's pretty cool.
That's a lifesaver. Yeah, yeah.
This office is like

Speaker 1 an adult music. It's amazing.
They love it.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Nick, thank you so much, man.
It was awesome having you on. Awesome meeting you.
Max is going to ask for the dick signing after this. Nope, nope.
Yep. We won't do that.

Speaker 1 If you want something else sign, we'll sign yourself. No, we're not going to cut any of this.
This is what he didn't ask that. This is what goes on.
This is the real nitty-gritty.

Speaker 1 He actually did a good job, too, with his previous question.

Speaker 1 Like, I was proud of Max for not asking a weird question earlier in the interview. You know what? He's a true Philly fan.
Yeah, yeah, but you can only contain it for so long.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to know about other Philly fans. Once you know, Max, you know what you've done is now Philly fans are going to ask him that all the time.

Speaker 3 It's all because of you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you actually just created a lot of issues for me. You cut all of you.
You are in. You really need all of this kinetic.
Oh, no. You did it to him.
All right. Thanks so much, Nick.

Speaker 1 All right, thank you. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Firefest of the week, boys. It's time.
Henry?

Speaker 4 Yeah, my Fire Fest is dunk related. Oh.
Next week is the day I'll be attempting. I think I will be close-ish.

Speaker 1 Yep. When is PMTV coming out? Today.

Speaker 4 Okay. Now.

Speaker 1 So PFT. Yeah.
We have some negotiating.

Speaker 1 We did some pre-negotiation. I said to Hank when we were negotiating that none of this counts because PFT is not here.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I heard some things from the walls regarding the pre-negotiations.

Speaker 3 There were some slander. There were some slander.
Well, I know, because slander is when it's not true. Oh, yeah, yeah.
But just some insults

Speaker 3 that were thrown around very loosely.

Speaker 3 But yeah, Hank, this has been like a six-month firefest for you because you've just, there have been so many ups and downs, and having this challenge just looming out in the distance has really put you through a mental wringer

Speaker 4 yeah i mean i've been i've enjoyed the training i i've seen progress i will see if i've seen enough progress i think it will be close i probably didn't go as hard as i should have in the beginning and you know much like a project or whatever in school i procrastinated too long i was going through the motions i just wasn't i've been locked in for like two months i just needed to be locked in for like probably an extra two or three.

Speaker 4 But there is a second part of the dunk bet where it's like we went back and watched the footage when we recorded it last year. Yeah.
It was go perfect. It was go.
Can I

Speaker 4 explain it? No, you want to explain it?

Speaker 1 I knew this day would come.

Speaker 4 You want to explain it?

Speaker 1 You got it. My bad.

Speaker 4 In the when we discussion was, BitCat said, if you go perfect from three-point contest, 25 or 25, then you win as well. I said, that's never going to happen.
You said, okay, 20.

Speaker 1 That's not how it was said.

Speaker 4 All right, you explain it. No, you explain it.

Speaker 1 You explain it.

Speaker 3 So Max is walking around showing everybody this clip yesterday, trying to figure out what this clip means if you watch it.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, hey, put it back. Put it back.
I watched the clip, Hank.

Speaker 3 My initial reaction was 20 for 20.

Speaker 1 We got a mic off right now. We got two podcasters just not talking into a mic.
Put it back.

Speaker 1 Put it back. We got a mic off.
Put it back.

Speaker 3 Hank, what did you think that the

Speaker 3 second part of it? I don't know, PFD.

Speaker 4 Maybe if you let me fucking speak, I would explain it. But you guys got it.
You take it away. No.
Fire passes. I'm not good at at shooting threes.

Speaker 1 No, say it. Say it.
I just, you didn't.

Speaker 4 You didn't say it. You literally didn't let me finish.

Speaker 1 I did let you finish the part where you have to speak every time we're speaking.

Speaker 4 That's not what I said. Okay.

Speaker 1 Restart.

Speaker 4 I misinterpreted what the initial discussion was. I'm not going to be able to shoot 20 threes in a row.
That's it.

Speaker 3 I have a question, Eric. Yeah.
What was the initial discussion?

Speaker 1 Do we have a clip?

Speaker 4 The initial discussion was 25 for 25. I said that's never going to happen.
You said okay, 20.

Speaker 4 There was discussion. you have to go perfect from three point 25 or 25 i said that's never gonna happen you said okay 20.
i heard that as 20 out of 25.

Speaker 4 when i re-watched the clip this week i realized you guys meant 20 for 20.

Speaker 4 so i attempted to shoot i i had three shots at it uh i took 25 attempts at it on tuesday and i didn't make it more than five times in a row so that's that's that's over we have to we have to figure out something that I don't want you to be as down as you are because I actually still think you might be able to dunk

Speaker 3 You're not giving up on the dunk, are you?

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 3 So, why are you this upset about the three-pointer?

Speaker 1 I'm not.

Speaker 1 You're not. The text you sent me last night makes me think that you might be close to dunking.

Speaker 4 I thought Bicat lowered the rims, which he said he wants to do to fuck with me.

Speaker 1 I can't. I tried.
I don't think I'm going to dunk.

Speaker 4 I think I'm going to be. I'm just not.

Speaker 4 I can jump 10 feet four inches. I think I probably need another inch.
I don't think I'm going to run out of time.

Speaker 3 All right, so let's negotiate.

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 let's negotiate because here's what it comes i don't mind it is what it is we made the bet no no no honor me no no no i'm not i'm not trying to get out of it no no so what i told him pft is like we this is for the viewers uh we want it to be fun for the viewers so obviously if he can't dunk and he can't do the 20 for 20 uh we should come up with a uh like redemption bet for hank where it's not us at stake so we don't have to pay him anything it's just him getting out of paying us getting back to zero.

Speaker 3 Yeah, okay. So, here's the here's the clip.

Speaker 1 Okay, if you want to play it: if you can't dunk, I'll give you uh three chances

Speaker 1 to go perfect from a three-point contest, and if you get that, then you get the money, okay?

Speaker 1 That was smart by me because now he's gonna like halfway through not training, he's gonna be like me just training. He's gonna get three-pointers, and he'll stop training to dunk.

Speaker 1 That works. So, three

Speaker 1 times through, you'd have to make 25 three-pointers in a row.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that'll never happen.

Speaker 1 All right, we'll say 20. That is so much more likely to happen than you.

Speaker 4 So, I, again, like, I didn't,

Speaker 4 I remember talking about it, and I remember 20 in my head for the last few months. It was 20 out of 25.
Watching the clipback, I realized it was 20 for 20, which is impossible.

Speaker 4 I think 20 for 25 is possible. Obviously, that's not what we discussed.

Speaker 1 So, the thing we could do, and I propose this, is that we could do you

Speaker 1 get a a redemption rack or a run-through, and I get three chances to beat you. And if I beat you,

Speaker 1 or we could do the average of me and PFT, and then the difference is what you pay us

Speaker 1 was the other thing I proposed.

Speaker 4 Say that again?

Speaker 4 You and PFT both do one time through.

Speaker 1 We get, no, no, no, you go one time through, that's your score. So let's say you get

Speaker 1 20. Okay.
PFT and I go three times through each and we average our best scores. And then the difference is like, you know, like, so say our average is 14

Speaker 1 and you get 20.

Speaker 1 We would then take off whatever it is. So what do you would owe us? 8 grand? 8 grand.
You'd owe us $2,000. So it'd be like $1,000 a point or something.

Speaker 1 What do you think about that, PFT?

Speaker 3 What were the terms that you guys were throwing around yesterday?

Speaker 1 That was kind of it. It was like that.
It was us going.

Speaker 1 Is Hank going to risk anything more? It was going to be

Speaker 1 money.

Speaker 1 It was going to be PFT versus Hank straight up one time going through for a million dollars. He would have to pay us a million dollars if you beat him.

Speaker 1 And we wouldn't have to pay anything if you if. Ernos, if he beat you, we wouldn't have to pay anything.
That was where the insult came in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was willing to do a million dollars and get a cat and shave his face.

Speaker 3 I kind of want to take that bet.

Speaker 1 A million?

Speaker 3 Dude, a million. It's not the million is cool, but getting a cat.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And shaving.

Speaker 4 I mean, I'm open to either of those.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, we could do this. All right.
So, how about we do this? Because

Speaker 1 you'd owe us four grand, four grand, right? Correct.

Speaker 1 I would be willing to go heads up with you, one round versus one round. If you beat me, I'll wipe mine clean.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And then PFT could go heads up with you. If PFT beats you, you got to get a cat.

Speaker 3 And shave.

Speaker 1 And shave.

Speaker 3 But here's what I'll do. Wipe it clean.

Speaker 1 I'll also wipe it clean if I beat you.

Speaker 3 I'm willing to

Speaker 3 trade $4,000 cash for you. Yeah,

Speaker 1 so you'd be wiped clean on PFTs no matter what. And then if he beats you, you got to get a cat and shave your face.

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't you take this?

Speaker 3 You just said a million dollars.

Speaker 1 Why would you take this? And listen, I do not shoot three-pointers.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 1 we're just going heads up. One time, one time.

Speaker 3 I feel like I would. You have to go first.

Speaker 1 I'd probably make four three.

Speaker 3 If PFT goes first, remember, I have a

Speaker 1 broken pin.

Speaker 4 If PFT goes first, I'll do it. I'll go first against you.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
Yeah, I don't care when I go. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 3 Why don't you want me to go second?

Speaker 4 It's a lot of pressure for me.

Speaker 1 Oh, I think he's got to go second. I think he's got to go second.

Speaker 3 I think there's way more pressure on you if you go second.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Way more pressure.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I want Hank to go second. I accept PFT.
Okay, yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 I want Hank to go second again. Except,

Speaker 4 I don't, I don't, I'd rather.

Speaker 1 You already accepted.

Speaker 4 No, I didn't. I literally did not.

Speaker 1 You just said if PFT goes first, I'll do it.

Speaker 3 And I said, okay,

Speaker 1 fine.

Speaker 1 I think this is fair.

Speaker 1 So you're going to go, so you're going to try to dunk. If you don't dunk, you're going to try to get 20 threes in a row.
You have three shots at that. If that doesn't happen,

Speaker 1 we owe you nothing. So we've won that side of the bet.
And then we have the elimination is essentially me and you heads up one time, one time.

Speaker 1 If I beat you, you owe me the four grand.

Speaker 1 If you beat me, we're clear. And then one time, one time, you're already clear with PFT.
But if he beats you, you have to get a cat and shave your face.

Speaker 1 It's the shaving the face, isn't it?

Speaker 1 Oh, it's the cat. Oh, it is? Oh, I thought it was the shaving.

Speaker 3 The cat might take care of the spiders.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true.

Speaker 4 Spiders have gone away for winter.

Speaker 1 The cat doesn't. A cat is fine.
I love Hank's ongoing war against the spiders. I think this is a fair deal.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, I don't want to own a cat,

Speaker 1 but I also

Speaker 4 beat PFT, so whatever.

Speaker 1 You could also adopt an elderly cat. They need homes too.
True. From paws.

Speaker 1 That'd be so sad if you just adopted a cat for it to die die like six months later. You would definitely love that cat.
All right.

Speaker 1 We're good. All right, we're good.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 So, so already you've, you've, the most you're going to have to pay is four grand.

Speaker 1 Correct. Yeah.

Speaker 3 This is a win. This is a massive win for you, Hank.

Speaker 1 And you've been shooting a lot more than me, so I think you're going to beat me.

Speaker 1 Although you've never beaten me in a three-point contest. But I think you could beat me.

Speaker 1 I'll walk in. This is going to be great.
Imaginative PFT beat.

Speaker 1 PFT, you got to fucking get. I'm going to talk.

Speaker 3 I'm texting Titus.

Speaker 1 You got to get tight. You got to get your shit on.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 4 Pressure makes diamonds. Or I can just dunk.

Speaker 1 Or you can just dunk. If you dunk, you just, what would you get? 18 grand or something? 20.
20? Damn.

Speaker 1 What a, what a, I mean, I'm rooting for you to dunk.

Speaker 4 Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 Would you still do heads up against PFT just for the cat?

Speaker 1 Come on. The people need the cat.

Speaker 3 Hank, if you can dunk, I think you should go heads up against me, and I'll double how much I owe you.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna dance. Deal.
Oh, my God. Deal.
Deal.

Speaker 3 So you're shooting for a cat no matter what.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 I love that.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 3 And what day are we doing this? Friday.

Speaker 1 Friday.

Speaker 3 Okay, I'm texting Mark.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 There also might be someone who could help you. Like a week from today.
There's also someone who might be here who can help you shoot too, PFT.

Speaker 1 Yes. A coach of some kind.

Speaker 1 But I got to put the output. That won't add any pressure to you.

Speaker 4 No, I mean, I'm going to fall apart. This is going to be terrible.

Speaker 1 I'm already.

Speaker 4 But you know who wins? The AWS. And that's all that matters.
That's all that matters.

Speaker 1 They are winning.

Speaker 1 This is going to be a big win for them.

Speaker 4 And we're doing the racks, not the guns.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.
Racks. Racks.
Also, this will be the finale of the PMT documentary.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this will air Christmas week.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. So just

Speaker 1 everyone who's been asking about that.

Speaker 4 This will air Christmas week.

Speaker 1 This will air Christmas week at the end of the last episode of the PMT documentary. Yes, yes.
Okay. PFT Your Fire Fest.
That was good. That was good.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry for interrupting you at the start. It's okay.
I apologize.

Speaker 3 My Fire Fest kind of addressed a couple of them already. One was that Hank brought back winner by provoking it.

Speaker 4 Dude, it was, it's fucking like, whatever.

Speaker 1 Today's not that bad.

Speaker 3 No, it was negative five wind chill this morning. It's okay.

Speaker 3 My other Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 It's going to get to be 40 degrees again tomorrow.

Speaker 1 It'll be okay. It'll be okay.

Speaker 3 My other Fire Fest is that I have entered the metaverse.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 3 And I think I like it. I think I enjoy it.
So I got the Apple Vision Pro like seven months ago. What a waste of fucking money that was.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 That was, that's probably the biggest waste of money I've ever had in my entire life is buying that. But a couple of days ago, I went out, picked up

Speaker 3 the MetaQuest 3.

Speaker 3 That thing rocks.

Speaker 3 So you can watch NBA games and feel like you're actually courtside at it. It's not an ad.
I just enjoy being in the metaverse. Shit, I might have to buy it.
You feel like a court side?

Speaker 3 It's great for flight simulators. I know you love those, big cats.
So I'm just like rocking my meta helmet. at home.
I was watching college football on Saturday.

Speaker 3 I had three games on at once on like big screen TVs that were just floating in my room.

Speaker 1 It is, it's awesome.

Speaker 3 I think I'm just a full-time metaverse guy. I guess I got to get it.

Speaker 3 You can troll in the metaverse, too? Oh. You can go up to other people and start fucking with them.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's fun. Okay.
It's fun.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be a metaquest guy.

Speaker 3 I'm in the metaverse right now.

Speaker 1 That sounds sick. Was it hard to set up?

Speaker 3 No, it was very easy to set up.

Speaker 1 Did you get any headaches?

Speaker 3 No headaches. No headaches.

Speaker 1 I remember because we had this in the New York office and I played like two games of something and my brain could. I also have a fucked up brain.

Speaker 1 That's a me thing. That's a me thing.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah yeah yeah stop talking i know that like if you don't adjust it if you don't adjust the uh like tightness of it or the lens distance or whatever it fucks with you but if you have it set up perfectly it's man i'm telling you the apple vision pro was like five grand this thing was 500 this kicks the shit out of the apple vision pro apple vision pro sucks ass but this rocks i might have to get it um all right my firefest i get two one is i do think i have a broken pinky i've had it for two weeks i don't know what to do about it i don't think you can do anything for a broken pinky.

Speaker 1 You cut it off. It just hurts really bad.
It hurt really bad when I hurt it, and then it got a little better, and now it hurts again.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I don't think you can, they don't do anything for a broken pinky, right? No. You can like tape it, I think.
Yeah, I'm not doing anything.

Speaker 1 So I think I'm just like a hurt hand guy for the rest of my life. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then the other one was that

Speaker 1 my son just threw up all over my car on Saturday, and that was fun. So, oh, and we were in a parking lot after lunch, and I said to him, I was like, you look like you're gonna throw up.

Speaker 1 Do you need to throw up? And he's like, No. And then we got in the car everywhere.

Speaker 3 Spin zone, though, big cat. At least now you have a sick car.

Speaker 1 Yeah, real sick car. Real sick car.

Speaker 1 Oh, it was everywhere. And then I got blamed for it because he was like, You shouldn't have made me eat the single noodle that he ate for lunch.

Speaker 3 That was your fault.

Speaker 1 He was like, I told you I didn't want that single noodle. It would make me sick.
Like, damn, you're right. You got me.
All right. Thank you.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 1 You're fine. You're.

Speaker 1 What just happened here is that you already are down. You already don't have to pay four grand.

Speaker 1 You're high. You're in hell.

Speaker 4 I would pay four grand to not have a cat and cheese in my face.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to do it to PFT. No, I know.
Dude, I suck. It's pressure.
PFT, you shouldn't practice. No, shut.
No, stop. Stop.

Speaker 3 I mean, it's not going to make a difference. I think I would honestly shoot.
I'm probably like

Speaker 3 7% from three.

Speaker 3 Is that fair?

Speaker 1 And you're also going to be on, you're already going to have done it.

Speaker 1 You're going to to do it like, what, three times?

Speaker 1 So you're going to be warmed up.

Speaker 1 And you're in great shape.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm excited. I'm nervous, but I'm excited.

Speaker 1 You shouldn't be nervous. I think you're good.
I think you're going to walk away from this and probably not owe anything. Hopefully.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Or be up 20.

Speaker 1 Or be up 20. Yeah, you could dunk.

Speaker 3 Dude, how sick would it be if you were to dunk and you'd have that video for forever?

Speaker 4 Oh, the way I'm going to dunk it.

Speaker 3 Wait, how many times does he get again?

Speaker 4 To dunk unlimited.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because you'll stop being able to jump as high after that, but you'll quit. Memes, are you still staring at that light?

Speaker 1 I was showing Pug off the light.

Speaker 1 I can't stress enough how long this light has been there. Forever.
And you can also

Speaker 3 just stop looking at it.

Speaker 1 All right. Now I have to look at it.
All right. We ready for numbers?

Speaker 1 11. 3 nice

Speaker 4 what the man two that's a big thing for me

Speaker 1 94 pug 35 uh

Speaker 1 i'll go 10

Speaker 1 21 thanks to the nationals

Speaker 3 oh yeah the national the nationals tweeted at memes after they won the ladder saying memes have you ever gotten this you've never gotten it memes

Speaker 1 you've never gotten

Speaker 1 memes