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Today is Wednesday, November 20th, and the Dallas Cowboys are deader than dead. It was already dead, but now it's really, really dead, and they're pathetic, and they shouldn't be on TV.
But, oh, wait, we still have them on Monday Night Football that they can't flex because there's a Simpsons broadcast. And also because of the Cowboys.
I think that's a convenient excuse because I don't think that they would ever flex the Cowboys because what you could get with any Dallas game is exactly what you got last night, which is chaos, the building falling apart in Dallas before the game. And it's still got 17 million viewers.
Yeah, well, I mean, that's Monday Night Football too. Yeah, but also primetime games, Monday Night Football, Sunday Night Football.
I'm good with not having to watch the Cowboys anymore. They're really bad.
Listen. They're not even fun bad.
I am too. But guess what? People in general are going to watch the Dallas Cowboys if they're on primetime.
That's the thing about them. And it sucks.
But the Simpsons broadcast, that'll be fun to see the team just completely implode. I hope that Mike McCarthy is either Chief Wiggum.
That'd be the perfect fit as Chief Wiggum or maybe just Smithers on the sideline. And Mr.
Burns needs to be Jerry Jones. I mean, I'm going to have to watch that broadcast because it's going to suck having to watch the Cowboys again.
It's just not. It's not fun.
Cooper Rush, not fun. Why don't they start Trey Lance? He's probably not good.
But he's not Cooper Rush. Right, but he's probably not good.
But not at this point I think I think you got to be at least like there's a level of competency that maybe he hasn't achieved I guess but I mean you traded a draft pick for him yeah what was it like a seventh rounder no I think it's higher than that was it yeah I mean I stupid I don't think that's that uncommon of a take to say that they should just try to start Trey Lance yeah I'm sure'm sure they will at some point. It was a fourth rounder.
And I'm sure they will at some point. I just, I would assume he's, there's got to be a reason he's not playing.
You know what the saddest part? Like, I think they will now maybe because he's, they're so bad and it's over. But I think they, this was the last moment where they're like, hey, maybe we'll win a game and change it around.
It's just, it's not there. You know what the saddest part to me is watching Cooper Rush play quarterback for this team? When he does the here we go that Dak does.
The Dak. He needs to come up with his own cadence.
Yeah. Don't just try to do like a cover of Dak Prescott's already annoying.
Here we go. It's very, very bad.
Yeah, the Cowboys are very, very bad. Jerry's very, very bad.
I feel like the fans have fully turned on him. He's like in late stage, like dementia, like weird.
Like he's, you know, he's given these press conferences after. He's like, I've been here for bad teams and, you know, bad years happen.
It's like, yeah, we get it. But this team sucks and you had no contingency.
And they're getting – it's getting hidden by the fact that Dak Prescott got hurt. They sucked before that.
Oh, well before, yeah. Yeah.
Their defense stinks. This isn't just that Dak Prescott got hurt they sucked before that oh well before yeah yeah their defense stinks this isn't just a Dak Prescott got hurt our year went to shit it was bad before that yeah it was already bad you're you're running back your play at the running back position from week one was awful yeah they just yeah the bad team and the Texans get a little right get a little mojo going right with just never trailing in that game just whooping up on them that's got to feel good that first play should have counted yeah i know it was such a good first play too it also was just classic for laramie tunsel they probably practiced that play all week and then he was like he just didn't do it right yeah it's the king of penalties uh but yeah the texans like i don't really know where i think the texans are still in that second tier in the AFC where they could maybe win

a playoff game. I just don't

know. I feel like they just don't have

enough against a Bills

Ravens Steelers Chiefs. So

Chargers Chargers like what

you just described is the Chargers second tier. No

I was you didn't let me finish.

Thanks for waking up Hank. You didn't let me finish.

I was going to say Chargers the Hank

might be eight o'clock at night. Hank was saying

a couple minutes ago. He might put a juicy little future

on the Chargers. That'd be a sharp bat rolling me

Thank you. Thanks for waking up, Hank.
You didn't let me finish. I was going to say Chargers.
8 o'clock at night. Hank was saying a couple minutes ago he might put a juicy little future on the Chargers.
That would be a sharp bet, Hank. He's just trolling me.
That would be a sharp bet. You're going to be so mad if the Chargers win a playoff game.
No. Yeah, you will.
Yeah, you will. You'll get a little bit upset.
No. Zero fear.
Okay, so if you're the Cowboys, one thing I didn't understand last night. Your season's over, right? You're not going to win anything.
You've long since given up on that. Why not just let Brandon Aubrey have that 64-yard field goal? Dude, he barely even kicked it.
It looked like a practice kick. It was nuts.
I understand the idea that, okay, they called a penalty, which by the way. No, no, never take points off the board.
Never take points off the board. We learned that a long time ago.
Yeah, coach, no, you don't want to take three points. You never know what could happen.
Yeah, but you got your drive extended, so you're trying to score a touchdown. Yeah.
As a Bears fan, did that piss you off that they called a slap to the head, which hasn't been called in decades? No, listen, Matty. And they didn't call running over the center's face? He sent it into the league.
I'm sure it will fix everything. I don't like you, Hank.
I'm stuck on the Chargers thing. By the way.
You just named five AFC teams, and you didn't name the Chargers but hold on the way you describe the Texans I want to play back it was the perfect description of the Chargers where they might win a playoff game they're not beating the Chiefs what was the original bet though I said that uh now I obviously believe in them fully but the original bet that we all put in together was I don't think the Chargers are gonna win the super bowl but they are at 45 to 1 insane odds because they're a playoff team and they could play they could basically beat anyone in a one game elimination seven and then i've been telling you like you're gonna cash out right all right so then we agree we agree to disagree no jay billis no jay billis agreed to disagree disingenuous you're disagreeing with yourself you're just being youing with your past self. That's true.
But that happens all the time. And you're taking it out on me.
No, I feel like... No, no, no.
The reason why I'm taking it... Hank, you're arguing with a ghost right now.
You're arguing with someone that doesn't exist anymore. I'm arguing with Big Cat's correct logic.
That was old Big Cat. Big Cat's incorrect logic is arguing with his correct logic.
What I'm arguing... I'm taking it out on you because I feel like...
I feel like the Chargers are basically the only thing you care about now. No.
Because you were trolling me before, and I think it's giving you life. So actually, you should thank me.
Well, no, we talked about it. We did talk about it on the show.
It's like when you cash out on the future, you're not going to root for it. Yeah, you're rooting against it, but you should thank me for giving you life.
You have purpose. You have purpose.
This is an abusive relationship right here. Front row tickets to gaslighting.
Well, he reverse gaslit me.

No.

There we go.

Yeah.

Yeah, let's keep going.

Me reverse gaslighting you

is just you saying things that you said previously.

Sorry.

You know what?

I want to talk to Max and Max only.

Sorry that I came up with a bet

that all the boys could ride on

and we could have fun and root for it together and then half of the boys cashed out. Sorry.
Sorry I was rooting for that. I'm still in.
Thank you, Max. I thought it would be fun.
No, no. You didn't let him play the butt.
No, my butt was going to be that before the show, we were all silent, and then Hank just whispers into the mic. He goes, Chargers are pretty good.
Yes, he's trolling me. Yes.
No one was talking, and Hank just was like. He's trolling me.
I think the Chargers. Can you at least admit that PFT? I know you're taking Hank's side, but he's trolling me.
Oh, yeah, no shit. Yeah.
Well, I mean, he is, but I can't castling someone who's trolling me. Sorry that I did something that we all could do together.
And then, like, listen, I know I got Max. Max will always have my back.
Everyone else just bailed on me. Listen, I have not had a good gambling season, and responsibly I cashed out of it.
Jerry got way madder than you about the cash. Jerry approached me one-on-one, pulled me aside, and had a sit-down with me about why I would cash out on his Steelers.
And I didn't have a good answer for him. No, I'm not mad.
It was fun to do it as a crew. It was fun to do it as a crew.
Travis Hunter has been fun for us. It was fun to do it as a crew.
And then I found out just we don't do it as a crew. I like friendship.
But you cash out of Travis Hunter too? No. No.
Absolutely not. Diamond hands.
Because I can't. They literally won't give it one.
If there was, they would have. I'd be lying if I said I didn't check DraftKings three times a day to see if they've given me an option to cash out on Travis Hunter or an option to cash out on Lamar Jackson.
The two of us will do friend bets together. Okay? Love it.
We'll ride. We'll ride.
Can he cash out or no? Yeah, if we talk about it, we did say, if he says, hey, remember how we talked about this, I'm going to cash out, I'd be like, yeah, you guys cash out for a loss. The whole point was to cash out for a win.
I don't know if I did. Yes, you did.
You 100% did. There's no chance.
No chance. No chance.
So, Cowboys-Texans. I don't even care about this game anymore.
I mean, that game sucked. Why are we even pretending about it? I just want to say that the Texans, you said that they're in that second tier with the Chargers.
No, Chargers in the first tier. No, Chargers in the first tier.
Yeah. I think that the Texans are exactly the same type of team that they were last year.
The difference is that C.J. Sproud's in his second season.
I think everybody expected them to be in that top tier of the AFC. Yeah.
And because they're just a very good team, we're kind of silently disappointed in them. Well, their offensive line is not great.
And they've obviously had some injuries. It's good that Nico's back because he's awesome.
Yeah, I think, yeah, I do think that we just expected C.J. Shroud to go into infinity.
Like, oh, that was his rookie year? He'll just be the best quarterback of all time. We expected him to be better than Patrick Mahomes in the secondomes.
He's just what he is, which is a good quarterback. Yeah, I think he's a very good quarterback.
He's had an up-and-down year. There's been some not great games.
They haven't really blown anybody. Have they blown anybody out? I just remember the Texans being in a shitload of close games, especially against teams that they should have blown out.
No, they have not really blown anyone out.

No.

Oh, they blew out the Patriots 41-21. What did you just do?

You're right.

It was for a loss. Yeah.
The whole point

was to do it for a win. I got even money.

Max, good investment. No chance.

Sure? Yeah.

I'm pretty sure. I'll look it up.

I highly doubt that. I'm pretty sure it's the same

exact odds, though.

Max, you and I will talk. We'll have a strategy, the two of us.
Just boys. I'm not cashing out.
No, but if we do, we'll do it together. We'll do it together.
We'll turn the key together. It'll be a great experience.
I don't want to look through this sea of red and losses. So here's what I'll guarantee.
It was the exact same cash out that they offered me right when I put the bet in. So that's...

Minus 10%.

That's minus money.

Minus 10%.

Yeah.

Good investment.

Okay.

So other things.

Clean up from Sunday.

I wanted to point out this stat from our friend Ben Baby.

This one's crazy.

Through the first 11 games on the 4-7 Bengals, Joe Burrow has 3,028 passing yards, 27 touchdowns, and 5 interceptions. Players to achieve 3,000 passing yards, 27 touchdowns, and 5 or fewer interceptions through the first 11 games.
Here they are. Tom Brady, 2007 and 2015.
His teams were 16-0 and 13-3. Aaron Rodgers, 2011-2020.
His teams were 15-1, 13 and 3 Aaron Rodgers 2011 2020 his teams were 15 and 1 13 and 3 Patrick Mahomes 2020 14 and 2 Drew Brees 2018 13 and 3 this entire exercise is just to prove that Joe Burrow is having an insane season and the rest of his team has let him down yeah it sucks it sucks that's every single I mean the lowest amount of wins was 13 and 3 of that list i just said and he's in a list with tom brady aaron rogers patrick mahomes and drew breeze and they're four and seven we should start talking more about joe burrow being the mvp all right you're trolling me too now i mean if they go on a little run. Yeah.
I just gotta live to get trolled.

Hank, you've seen these stats from

Joe Burrow. I have.

And if he finishes first in

the league, listen, my biggest

crime here, by the way, is being

early to all these takes that

actually have value. First in the league.

Chargers, Travis Hunter, Joe Burrow

MVP. Who told you about all three of those

a month and a half ago? Smart guy. That's my crime.
That is my crime. I mean, he has MVP numbers.
What do you want me to say? He is having an outstanding season. Sorry I know ball.
If they make the playoffs, he would be in the conversation. No, probably not because he's like the sixth seed now.
And I also, I mean, that was. Yeah, but if he made the playoffs, it would be so impressive that...
He should be. We discount...
The MVP conversation just becomes the team, the quarterback of the team on the one seed. That sucks.
But I think if his stats were all one and they somehow went on a run to make the playoffs, it would be different. I agree.
If he goes on like a... Yeah, no, if they run the table.
if they run the table and finally sneak in and he has insane numbers, he would definitely win. I'd feel vindicated.
Are you still in on that? Yeah. What's the number you got there? 15.
It's 20 now. Okay, so I might get in.
I might get in. I might get right out.
I might do a parlay. Fuck you guys.
You're an asshole. I'm done saying my takes that actually end up being good that have value.
I think that makes a lot of sense. Oh, fuck you.
You guys are welcome for telling you about Travis Hunter. Okay.
I had had that conversation with Brandon Walker that day. That's why I thanked you for bringing it up because I was going to bring it up on this very show.
And Brandon tried to talk me out of Travis Hunter. He's been a Travis Hunter hater for the whole year.
I know. Okay, so let's start talking about what a dumbass Brandon Walker is.
Fuck you, Hank. Okay.
All right. Now I won't.
Whatever. You know what? I'm going to keep my takes to myself.
Whatever. Whatever.
I'm just going to tweet him out. I was paying you a compliment.
I can't trust anything you say now. That's not nice.
I can't. I feel like I'm Max right now.
I'm being honest. My opinion is that the Tudors are going to win the Super Bowl.
Is that a crime? Great is honesty, Max. He's never honest.
Okay, thank you. What? I appreciate that.
I appreciate that, Max. I love this.
Everything he does on that couch is a troll. He's a troll.
I speak facts. What if I please point to me a fact that I've said that's been false? When you sat down on that couch before we were recording, you were just like, I think Chargers' future is a good bet.
We should build a little bridge that goes above Hank's head on that wall behind there. A little troll guy.
Trolls live here? Yeah. Don't feed the troll.
I do love the new partnership, though, that Max and Big Cat have. The Exist Bridge.
The Exist Bridge. I just took Joe Burrow 20-1, by the way.
Okay. No, what we should talk about before we talk college football is that guy over there that's just not said a a word for the whole show he's just watching the chaos loving the chaos thinking maybe maybe maybe they'll forget the fact that uh the jets fired their gm in the middle of the season and this is now just i mean even for the jets everything that's happened it's just there's such a dumpster fire.
Memes, Joe Douglas gets fired. Is this the thing that will fix everything? No, because he was pretty much.
This was his final season. He had six games left.
Yeah. So the timing of it makes absolutely no sense.
I still don't understand it. They want to jump on him.
They fired their GM six weeks before the season's over. What was he going to be doing in those six weeks? Well, I think you want to fire someone so that you can start your draft prep with someone who's actually going to be there to draft him.
I guess. Yeah, but...
I mean, they're scouting right now. A bunch of reports came out that he pretty much wasn't the GM for the past nine months.
Oh, who was? It was Woody Johnson. He took full control of the team.

That's awesome.

Memes, I don't know if you had a chance to see this.

This report just came out like five minutes before we started taping

that Woody Johnson tried to bench Aaron Rodgers after the Broncos game

and that Joe Douglas talked him out of it.

Who reported that?

Let me look it up.

It was on The Athletic.

I mean, I believe you because apparently there's a bunch of reports coming out. It's Diana Rossini and Zach Rosenblatt.
Uh-oh. That's a half of Rossini.
Jets owner Woody Johnson suggested benching Aaron Rodgers in September per sources. Per sources.
And apparently Douglas talked him out of it and all the other. uh after that game woody johnson summoned every coach

to the office to explain to him what went wrong like defense coordinator head coach offense coordinator um whatever it is nathaniel hackett does he was in the room too joe douglas was there and they asked uh he asked them to explain themselves and then he said well what about benching aaron rogers right now and they said you serious? They asked him if he was serious, and he was.

I kind of believe it.

Yeah.

Because everything that's coming out, I mean, this guy's just an asshole.

Yeah.

That's – the Jets are just – I mean, is Aaron Rodgers just the coach and GM right now?

No, he's gone too.

Fully.

Fully, he's gone.

Where's he going to go?

Is he the Titans quarterback? Titans would be a good fit for him. Oh, that would be fun.
Because he could win the AFC South, maybe. Maybe.
Probably not. I think he might walk across to the other locker room.
What? The Giants? He loves New York. If you look at which teams need a quarterback.
Oh, my God. I didn't even think about that.
They improved their own line. They have some receivers.
Their defensive line is good. He doesn't have to move.
Doesn't have to move. He loves New York.
And then somebody else threw out the Panthers, but he wouldn't go to the Panthers. No way.
That's beneath him. Yeah.
Wait. The Giants.
The Giants. That's intriguing.
And you know how this is going to work, Mims, right? Yeah, he'll be good again.

He'll be very good for at least one year.

He's going to go.

So if he goes to the Giants, he'll be awesome for a year.

Then it'll be over.

But he'll have one year just to – because he basically will just have a chip on his shoulder.

That's really what – if you break down what happened with Aaron Rodgers,

I know everyone goes with the Achilles, and the Achilles obviously ended that season.

The biggest reason that Aaron Rodgers didn't work in the Jets is because the Achilles took away his chip on his shoulder year. The guy is great when he has a chip on his shoulder.
He had it from Green Bay. He got hurt, couldn't play.
The chip on the shoulder goes away. Now he's got a year where he doesn't have to prove anything.
Next year is his chip on his shoulder year for the Jets. If he wanted a chip on his shoulder, he should have just taken the VACs.
It's true. Now, if he goes to the Giants, it would be a troll move too.
And I know that he loves – his next move might just be to piss off whoever his most recent enemy is. And in this case, it would be the Jets.
I feel like that would piss the Jets off the most, right? Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
Hmm. So that could happen.
That could happen. I was just looking at the list of teams, and there's not many suitors.
People were saying the Vikings, but J.J. McCarthy's going to start when he's healthy.
Yeah. It's like whichever team doesn't get Sam Darnold.
Yeah. Yeah, and then people were saying Jets get Daniel Jones.
what? Why? I don't know. What? I was getting thrown around yesterday.
That's just people trying to get to you. Yeah.
They're making photos. That's the people doing the Mike McCarthy to the Bears.
You can't let that get to you. It's just.
You're saying? It's a bad situation. Yeah.
I walked past earlier in the office. There was a huddle.
Memes were sitting at the table. I'm starting to see through Max's eyes, and it just feels good.
Okay, go ahead. Yes, yes, troll.
I saw Hank. He wanted to ask a question this entire time.
It's my favorite part. I love what you add to everything.
Go ahead. This isn't a troll.
Okay. This is a report.
No, yeah, I know what Hank's going to say okay please report i can't i literally can't even speak go ahead i want to hear your report giving a report i want to hear your eye like this is an eyewitness report from you from me okay my eyes witnessed this and heard okay memes were sitting around a table with the like pug liam His guys. Four other people.
His crew. And I was like, what are you guys huddling? Everyone's standing around.
Memes were sitting down, showing all the power. And I was like, what are you guys doing? And they said, they're fixing the Jets.
Yeah, me, Blutman, and Pug. What is the plan? We're fixing the Jets.
Okay, so go ahead. Is that a troll? No, that's not a troll.
We came up with a bunch of different scenarios. Condoleezza Rice was at one of the crazier scenarios.
Okay. One of the crazier scenarios.
Yeah, we went through as many scenarios as you could. Justin Fields was one of the options.
I would say no. That's not going to – no, that will not fix you.
As a bridge quarterback. No, that will not fix you.
The best scenario was Mike Vrabel is coach. Kevin Stefanski gets fired from the Browns.
He becomes the OC. Okay.
You bring in Jameis as the bridge. Okay.
And then Super Bowl. Wait, but there has to be something at the other side of the bridge.
You said Jameis. Jameis.
But he's the bridge. But he's the bridge.
No, but the bridge is also a Super Bowl. Oh, it's just a bridge.
It's just last forever. You win a Super Bowl in a rebuilding year.
Okay, got it. Got it.
But it's not. It's a rebuilding year, but it's not at the same time because the roster's still good.
We just don't have a quarterback. There's another name that you told me that you want.
And that's Sam Darnold. Oh.
Yeah, Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold got thrown out there, too.
Memes. We're in dark times.
Memes. Memes.
I think we asked you about that like a week ago and you puked. Memes.
But that's just as a bridge and none of this is going to happen because we're just going to draft someone who's going to suck. Memes.
You know, that's the difference between like American sports fans and European sports fans. European sports fans, if they had a Jets doing this to them, they would riot.
Yeah. There would thrown at cars.
They don't put up with shit over there. No, you're right.
We just take it. People just keep buying tickets.
We keep buying jerseys. We haven't made the playoffs in 14 years.
I went my entire 20s without seeing the Jets in a playoff. It's tough.
Yeah. And nothing's going to change because the owner is still the same.
Yep. What are you going to say, Hank? No, that sucks.
I didn't think about the 20s. What were your 20s like, Hank? There's a decade to win.
It's your 20s. But that's all right.
30s are fun, too. 30s are fun, too.
Are you 30? I'm turning. When? March.
So you've got to win a playoff game this year. Wait, your whole 20s? Whole 20s.
The Jets haven't been in the playoffs since I was a sophomore in high school. Hank, stop.
Stop it, Hank. Wild.
Stop it. I hope memes that you get to see a playoff one.
I truly do. I don't think it could ever happen.
Yeah. Well, yeah, you got to figure out Coach 2.
And your number one is Vrabes. I mean, memes, I've been to the playoffs.
But, yeah, we've talked about it. The same dysfunction happens in both places.
They're a little bit different because the Jets do a – the Jets' dysfunction is is more all in and then they fall on their face the bears dysfunction is more hey let's hope we catch lightning in a bottle every now and then and then fuck it up like you guys actually take a shot yeah well that's the one thing about this year we did yeah you do appreciate the effort of trying to go all correct right but it was just the biggest disaster of all time yeah man what are you gonna say man playoffs are overrated yeah yeah you just well hank's not allowed to say that no because losing sucks yeah getting to the playoffs getting your hopes up and then losing is so much pain yeah but going on a run is so much fun. Yeah, getting to the playoffs is fun.
You got it. Yeah, this is loser talk, yes.
100%. Hank? Guilty as charged.
Hank? Playoffs are overrated. There you go.
That's okay being mediocre. Pats are bad.'m i feel great all right speaking of playoffs should we talk some college football should we talk some college football we have the rankings out uh the rankings uh let me i just had them in front of me and then i just lost them here they are it is right now the playoff bracket would be one seed Oregon, two seed Texas, three seed Miami, four seed Boise State because BYU just lost.
Then it would be home game for Ohio State against BYU, home game for Notre Dame against Alabama. That would be awesome.
Home game for Penn State against Georgia, and home game for Indiana versus Ole Miss. So we're two weeks, three weeks really, because we have the conference championships away from the first 12-team playoff bracket.
I like how everyone's getting upset. What are your initial thoughts, PFT? My initial thoughts are it's fun to be mad about a hypothetical list that will ultimately look much different in two weeks so yeah get your anger out somehow it's probably there's a lot left it's probably healthy to get some of this anger that's pent up out um there is some anger that i guess could be pointed towards who would you say would be like the most um undeserving higher seed a lot of people are looking at ohio state indiana because they're about to play this weekend yeah indiana fans still have a right to be upset get here's what i'll say about indiana get all of your uh hatred out right now enjoy attacking the media for underrating you because you don't know what's going to happen there's a good chance you get your ass kicked by ohio weekend.
So take this time. Savor every moment of hate that you get to have at the committee for not treating you properly with enough respect.
Well, I think they're ranked fine right now. If you look at it, but, I mean, they don't have a loss.
You play who you play. Yeah, but this is also, remember, this is the rankings for the automatic qualifiers are one through four.
Yeah. So they're ranked fine.
You see what I'm saying? Like, Boise is not ranked higher than Indiana right now. They just are the automatic qualifier.
No, I know that. So Indiana's ranked fifth.
Yeah. Where else would you rank them? I mean, Penn State would be the only gripe you'd have, but, like, yeah, I think Indiana's ranked fine right now.
The problem with Indiana is that Greg Sankey made a call to all of media on Monday and had everyone in the media bash them when they have their big game coming up against Ohio State, and that makes no sense to me. Indiana has not played anyone.
Indiana's an awesome story. Indiana's an underdog story.
I'm rooting for Indiana. Let them at least go play Ohio State before we say Indiana sucks.
Like, that was my problem. They have the game to play.
They're going to play the game on Saturday. Let Indiana go play themselves.
If they get killed, I have no problem if people want to say that Indiana with one loss shouldn't be in the playoff. I really won't if they get killed because they have not played anyone.
But I want to see them play and compete, and I think they're going to do a good job staying in this game and maybe winning this game. Yeah, so Indiana this weekend, I want them to win.
I'm rooting for Indiana because I'm a fan of chaos first and foremost when it comes to all this college football talk. I'm rooting for the double doomsday scenario where the Big 12 doesn't even get anybody in.
That is a possibility. It's unlikely.
It's pretty unlikely. But it could happen.
I mean, at the start of the season, we were saying that there's no chance that a group of five gets a bye in the playoff. Yeah.
But that's become a possibility. Yes.
Now we're realizing that the double doomsday is also a possibility. I think if you're an SEC team, if you end up with two losses and you're an SEC team, you really don't have a right to complain about anything unless you're georgia pot potentially georgia played a gauntlet schedule potentially georgia now i understand that now i think georgia might they might be the best team in the country right and they played they they did they played clemson non-conference they had to play all their tough games on the road uh i georgia's the only one but like the big thing is my big takeaway from this entire week is everyone again I think there was a coordinated hit against Indiana which makes no sense to me because this is the last time they can say strength of schedule their strength of schedule is about to get a lot better because they're going to play Ohio State this weekend in Columbus let them play on the field before we say they shouldn't be in if they get smoked on Saturday then, then I'm fine.
They shouldn't be in. But let them actually play.
And since when did we not like these underdog stories? Actually, I kind of know the answer to that. It's pretty much the minute the underdog takes the blue bloods away, which is what happens in all sports.
We root for the underdog, and then if the blue blood gets squeezed out, we're like, no, we don't want this underdog anymore. Texas and Penn State have been hiding behind their resumes for the entire time, and no one's saying anything about that.
Texas is hiding behind just like a multi-decade resume at this point because if Texas loses, if they – They should be out. Then they should be out, right? Yes, 100%.
A two-loss Texas team. They have no big wins.
They don't best one is what michigan no vanderbilt vanderbilt yeah yeah and and penn state is the same way i know max you don't like hearing that but penn state like 100 they're hiding in place like the the the ire has been at indiana when it's like how about texas and penn state i have been saying we've been talking about this all day in the office i need ohio state to beat the shit out of Indiana. Right.
Because then that problems arise for Penn State, I think. Right.
If Indiana wins this game or, yeah, because there could be, yeah, but Texas, Penn State will not lose a game probably. I think they have Minnesota.
Minnesota this weekend is a tough game. Yeah, that's not easy.
And then they play, I think, finished with Maryland. Texas could easily lose to Texas A&M.
It is a mess everywhere. I just didn't like the coordinated hit on Indiana, and I do have something very funny to share with you guys.
This made me laugh. So Indiana Twitter, shout out to them.
They've been fighting really hard, and they've been going after people, and I respect it. This guy, fifth-ranked Indiana edits.
I'm just going to assume he's a stoolie. Uh, maybe not.
But anyway, he said he posted a group chat with his friends that said, we need to get Dan Dockage involved in this SEC fight. Let's bring out the big guns.
Got to find a way to show the SEC is woke. And then, uh, Chris DePlant wrote, he quote tweeted Rosillo and Mc mcshay talking he said hey dockage the west coast california liberals are trying to steal another election handing out a participation trophy to a two loss sec team is utter woke nonsense do something and then like five minutes my ass quote tweeted the same tweet and said dudes that this is about Rusilla McShay, dudes that were never in a locker room other than to take a peek, get an autograph, or take a picture.
He just like, mission accomplished, got him in. McShay played college football.
Yeah, he did. He was a quarterback, right? Yeah.
But it was so funny, they weaponized Dan Docich. That's how you do it.
I mean, Rusilla lives in locker rooms. They're usually at an equinox, but he's always in a locker room.
Yeah, I just loved it. So shout out Indiana fans fighting the good fight on Twitter.
I also love Joe Galloway. This is brain rot.
So college football has their brain rot, and it's reached its peak with Joe Galloway, who says that Indiana should consider benching their quarterback, Curtis Rourke, against Ohio State to avoid a repeat of what happened last year with FSU and their quarterback getting injured at the end of the season. It's broken everybody's brain.
And what I love about the college football playoff is you expand the argument. So there's, in theory, an argument that you could have every year about the 14 playoff.
And now you've just got so many other schools making a case that they deserve to be in it. Yada, yada, yada.
My resume is better than this resume. But at the end of the day, you can tell those teams that are bitching if they get left out.
You should have won more games. Yeah, you should have won more games.
And that's about as simple as it gets. And you could do it with almost like, listen, I think Tennessee is a very good team.
Obviously didn't go well for them in Georgia. Tennessee, you lost to Arkansas.
not good yeah you know I get it you play a tough schedule Alabama like you lost to Vanderbilt Vanderbilt had a nice run there but they're not going to finish it like there's if you have two losses and one of them isn't the best loss like that's why Georgia says two bad bad losses yeah yeah well wait they lost LSU is a bad loss now I mean it was that was a crazy game. That was a pure Saturday night in Baton Rouge game.
Kentucky's a bad loss. Kentucky's a bad loss.
So, yeah, it's just like you – and I get it. Indiana – the one thing I like about, like, people complain about the unbalanced schedule now.
I kind of like it just because a team like Indiana can have a season like this where the schedule bounces their way, and still they have to prove it. They have to prove it in Columbus on Saturday.
So wait, what were you saying about Joey Galloway further on that? No, I was done with Joey Galloway. I just think it's funny that he's reached that point where he's thinking through these scenarios to the point where he's got—it's that meme of the guy that his brain is so big that he's playing chess against his own brain.
That's what Joey Galloway is doing. I was going to talk about Georgia quick because i think georgia is the best team in the country um when it was texas and georgia playing each other i said that texas were going to i was wrong about that uh but the more i've watched georgia the more i've kind of it since there's no real dominant team in the sec this year uh i think georgia at their best beats any team at their best i think georgia at their worst also beats any team at their best.
I think Georgia at their worst also beats any team at their worst. Like the floor for Georgia is higher than any other team's floor.
And I think that Georgia, like medium Georgia, probably beats everybody at their medium except for maybe Alabama. I was going to say, counterpoint Alabama, they literally can't beat Alabama.
Yeah, Alabama. That was a weird game because you had...
But I'm saying like... You had Alabama at their best and Georgia at their worst in the first half.
Then it flip-flopped in the second half. But Kirby can't beat Alabama.
I think the way that Georgia's been playing recently, I think they are the best team in the country. But they're not a perfect team.
I think Oregon's pretty damn good too. I think Ohio State's pretty damn good.
This is why I like the 12-team playoff. I think there's a lot of good...
Ole Miss's defensive line can wreck anyone. Like, there's something about like seven or eight teams where I'm like, yeah.
If they do... Even a Miami who I don't think is great, like their defense is great, Cam Ward can win a playoff game.
You know? That's what I love about this. I also have no idea how to handicap a matchup between oregon and georgia no idea that to me it they might as well be playing in two different countries yeah like i don't my brain can't comprehend what that matchup would even look like i know oregon didn't look great against wisconsin on saturday um that was kind of like wisconsin was throwing everything they had at them and also o, that was their eighth straight game.
That was the longest streak of games without a bye week in the country. You could see that they were kind of running out of gas.
All in conference, do you think, right? Yeah, they were running out of gas, so I wasn't shocked that they played with fire there. I still think Oregon's very, very good.
And they also have some of their guys I think they're running back sud they have them on like load management basically the end of that game they'll stop doing that once they get to the playoff the end of that game was insane when dan lanning faked a punt yeah that was that was so stupid i think that's probably eight games he's his brain is probably exhausted at this point yeah because that was some dumb shit that he tried to pull he got away with it yes troll you had a question go ahead troll no i won't ask it then no no no i want it i want you raise your hand come out of the we need like a graphic where he like he oh he comes out from underneath what do you want me to do i want this is what i want i'm not trolling okay ask your non-troll question i want the question troll you are dismissed henry lockwood do you have a question I will go sit. Max can come sit on the couch.
I'll go sit inroll question. I want the question.
Troll, you are dismissed. Henry Lockwood, do you have a question?

I will go sit.

Max can come sit on the couch.

I'll go sit in the booth like Pug wants.

I don't know what I'm supposed to do sitting in this seat.

You're doing it.

You're doing a great job.

But I'm not trolling.

But when you do troll, you do a great job.

Like that's what the people want.

What did you think about Oregon flipping the jump around on Wisconsin by just going absolutely nuts? What do you mean? The fans? No, the players. Yeah, a lot of teams do that.
Yeah. You thought they took back jump around? They kind of did.
Yeah. Yeah.
Jump around's not great. Yeah, I know Max doesn't think so.
Guess what? Madison, with the new teams from the West Coast, there was a lot of Oregon fans there. Madison's a great college town.
Everyone puts it on their list of places they want to go see. So we have a lot of fans show up.
My buddy was there. He said there was Oregon fans everywhere.
Bucket list. I was just curious.
Okay. That wasn't troll.
Never is. How are your Washington Huskies doing? Bad.
Yeah. Play spoiler this week, though.
That's the other thing I want to say just in defense of Indiana. I know I'm defending Indiana a lot.
You don't know year to year what your schedule is going to look like. Everyone who had Florida State on their schedule this year thought – I understand what you're going to say.
They did cancel a game against Louisville for Western Illinois. That does hurt their case.
But they had on their schedule Michigan and Washington, two teams that were in the national championship last year, two teams that their coaches left, and their programs completely took a big step back. You can't really predict that part.
No, I'm rooting very hard for Indiana. You were going to say the Western Illinois thing, which is fair.
I learned about that like an hour ago. Oh, no.
Louisville fans are all up in Indiana's face. Kurt Signetti was not the one who canceled the game.
Yeah, but in Indiana's defense, like Indiana, if you look at their schedule this year compared to what Indiana has played in the past, you can't write any of these games down as easy wins for Indiana. No.
Like going into this season under a normal Indiana football team, this is a hard schedule for yes because they have not been good at football and they turned it around and they are very good at football i don't think that this is a fluke either yeah they got they got good players they got a great coach uh just got an extension by the way yeah which um i mean extensions in college football it means nothing it really means he got a temporary raise at least for the next month, and then he's probably free to go anywhere he wants to light that contract on fire. But, yeah, I mean, nothing that they've done this year, to me, screams fluke at all.
I think Cignetti, he's the real deal. Are you looking at their schedule next year? Well, this was just what somebody else was.
Oh, yeah, that's not a good non-conference. They've skipped non-conference.
They've decided to elect out of non-conference games. They do have to go to Oregon and Penn State next year.
ODU, Old Dominion. Yeah, Kennesaw State.
Kennesaw State won one game this year, then they fired their coach. Built their program.
Yeah, Indiana state sycamores uh yeah yeah that's fair they they don't they skipped they skipped on conference i wish wisconsin wouldn't play alabama at home and home that sucks it sucks i'd rather have that be a win we'd be bowl eligible right now but you know what there's really no need to schedule a tough out of conference scheduleconference schedule with a 12-team playoff. Well, you could make the case.
Yes, you should, because if Indiana had played and beaten Louisville, and then they lose to Ohio State, they would still have a case to be in the 12-team playoff. If they lose to Ohio State and they have no signature win, no big win, it's going to be harder to make that case.
I would like to see Indiana in it. Yeah, but you see what I'm saying? If they beat Louisville earlier, they would have a lot better of a chance.
But if you schedule hard games for yourself out of conference, it just makes it more likely that you're going to take away the possibility of you being in the playoff. Yeah, that's loser talk.
It's Coward's Way Out. Yeah, that was Coward's.
That's Coward's. But guess what? The Coward's Way Out is working right now.
Well, no, it could backfire on them. That's what I'm saying.
If they lose to Ohio State by a lot, it actually will be the wrong approach because playing and beating Louisville would have gotten them in. You're banking on the opportunity to get kicked out by your one tough loss that you have and then spending the time getting mad at the committee for not putting you in even though you only have one loss.
Correct. Which, as a loser, is a pretty satisfying way to deal with it.
Yeah. The Big 12.
So the Big 12 could be left out. I still don't think it's going to happen.
BYU lost to Kansas, which BYU's been playing with fire for a long time. Now we have Arizona State, who is a great story and has been playing great ball.
Could give BYU their second loss this weekend because they have to go down to Tempe and I'm... Colorado and Travis Hunter going to Kansas who's playing great ball as well is going to be a tough one.
The Big 12 just eats itself alive. Also, shout out Kenny Dillingham, the coach at Arizona State.
He's uh he's the guy who you're gonna try out for in the off season yeah i've been working out he's awesome i've been great i've been working the leg out the last couple days back on the peloton i think i can get up what if i 40 40 yards by my 40th birthday yeah i love that is that good enough i love that study law at arizona state sure they've got a good program right hot yeah they've got every p prisco what do you think that a law degree from arizona state would get me what's what would my hourly rate be you'd be like 100 bucks good ambulance oh i only know one person who went to arizona state and he's got issues i feel like law degree from arizona state a DUI specialist. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
I think that might be my goal.

Yeah. he's got issues i feel like law degree from arizona state uh dui specialist yeah okay yeah i think that might be my goal yeah um i i yeah the big 12 is going to be chaotic they this is what the big 12 is built on parody the big 12 is built on the chaos the big 12's chaos i unlike very unlikely but could fuck them what are the chances it It's probably unlikely, but Oklahoma State is having just an awful season.
They are shitty. Gundy is going to stick around for forever, right? Yeah.
And Stillwater. Yeah.
He's not going anywhere. No.
No matter how shitty it gets. No.
Well, I mean, unless he wants to leave. Yeah.
No. Jets.
Jets. Not a troll.
Oh, I mean, i mean i mean memes that was so perfect because he's like there's that fine line of him being like you guys accuse me of being a troll that he can't help dude mike gundy in new york would be so funny he was also is going off on rizzini back here right now. What are you saying? What are you saying? Where is he? Seriously, where is she getting these sources?

Where is she getting these sources? Where is she getting these sources? Why does that make any sense? We just beat the shit out of the Patriots before that game. We did.
I'm going to go out on a limb. I don't have any Rossini sources on this.
You are a Rossini source. No, but I'm saying I've not contacted my sources

at Rossini Incorporated.

But I'm going to guess, with the timing

of everything, maybe Joe

Douglas was a source.

Uh, you think?

Memes? It's just

a little far-fetched to believe

because they

just beat the shit out of the Patriots on primetime the week before, and they lost because of a missed field goal. Which would have made it a 12-10 win.
Okay. That really was the game that ended everything.
Everything. Mike Gundy, yeah, no.
Yeah, Mike Gundy. You declined Mike Gundy? Mike Gundy.
Biff Pogey. Bring him on in.
Dude, he's the best. He was fired at Charlotte, all-time football guy.
He's the dude that coaches and the cutoff, like the sleeveless vest on the sidelines. And is like independently very wealthy.
Yeah, they brought him back to practice this week. Yeah.
Do you see that? Yeah. Even though they fired him last week, they let him come onto the practice field and address the team this week.
Say goodbye, yeah. Which is, I guess it's pretty cool for Charlotte because he seems like a cool guy.
Yeah. Memes, would I actually expect the Jets to try to do, possibly? Cliff Kingsbury.
I saw people say that. No.
It's tough bringing up scenarios to Memes because he lives online, so no matter what scenario you bring up to him, he's like, yeah, I saw some tweets saying that earlier. I've seen most scenarios and I don't like most of them.
Okay. Mike Vrabel is the only one.
I think we would ruin Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson would come in.
He would just be Adam Gase 2.0. There's no chance Vrabel would go into that situation.
No. Yeah, no.
Adam Gase 2.0. But I'm saying he would go into that situation no yeah no adam gaze 2.0 he would once you run it back stop hyper drive hyper drive come on i i don't think there's a a coach that wants to coach the jets that will be the jets head coach next year wait say that again there's not a coach out there that wants to coach the the coach of Jets next year won't want to coach the Jets.
It'll just be the only available job open because they want to be a head coach. They don't want to be the coach of the Jets.
So it kind of sounds like you're saying there's no one out there who wants to coach the Jets. Correct.
That's an easier way to say it. I like the way I say it.
You got to find like a special teams coach that nobody knows about but is a great leader of men. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, again, we're in the same spot. I do not think that the Bears will get the first.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You have a rookie quarterback who still has a ton of potential.
But my point is, the number one choice the Bears could make, they'll say we're not going to interview him because he's too much of a man. The number two choice will probably say, I don't want to coach for the Bears because that's dysfunctional.
The number three choice will be like, I'm going to go do this. We'll get the fourth or fifth.
We're not the top choice team. Yeah, we're not the top choice.
Right. We've never been the top choice team.
But you're definitely a more attractive choice than you. Yes.
But we're not a top choice team. That's a fact.
Is there a college coach? I feel like that's where the Jets are at. The Jets are at that point.
Every franchise has been through this. You try every other way.
You try to get guys that you think might be surefire hits, and none of them work out. And then you say, Oh, fuck it.
I'll try to get a hot shot college coach.

And we'll just see if that works,

even though it has never worked with the exception,

maybe Harbaugh.

And,

but I don't,

I guess Harbaugh was like a college coach.

Pete Carroll.

Yeah.

But he also had like a previous stint in the NFL for the jets,

for the jets.

Yeah.

The jets tried doing with Pete Carroll.

Good point.

Jimmy Johnson.

Lou Holt. Lou Holt.
Yes. Great NFL career.
Yes. You guys want to hear or finish the college football talk with one of the craziest stats I've ever seen? Sure.
Not Travis Hunter, who should be the Heisman. He needs to be – we need – Colorado needs to be Kansas.
Kansas is very good now. That was a great, great touchdown run he had.

By the way, how sick – this is a really stupid thought, but how sick would it be if the commanders drafted the Kansas quarterback

as the backup?

Yeah, no, I don't want that because I was getting –

Jalen Daniels.

So I was rooting for Kansas on Saturday night when I was watching the game

just because they kept saying Jalen Daniels,

and it made me feel like half excited.

Yeah, it would be cool.

It would be cool.

Yeah.

Here's the crazy stat.

So Kentucky is playing Texas this weekend.

That is the farthest west Kentucky football has ever played a football game. Oh, wow.
Good stat. That's crazy.
It's like half the country. Half the country.
Kentucky has never played a football game west of Austin, Texas. Not even a bowl game? Nope.
That's nuts. Not even a bowl game.
Not even a bowl game. This is from the brian davis what was the previous record was that it was that baton they played austin they played in austin like 40 years ago so they're matching their matching their previous record well depending on where the stadium is i think dkr has been in the same spot okay but did they add to it they did add to it further did they add to it west they They built a highway, an overpass next to it, but I don't know if they moved it.
If they did move it, I think they would have moved it a little bit northwest because there's another field next to it. Yeah.
So it could possibly be the furthest they've ever gone. UK's last game at Texas was 73 years ago.
That's crazy. So this is the furthest.
That was Bear Bryant coaching them. Bear Bryant was a Kentucky coach in 1951.
That's just nuts to me. Never played a game further west than Austin, Texas.
Okay. Daryl K.
Royal Stadium has been home to the Longhorns football team since 1924. Okay.
So I'm thinking it has not moved. But have they added to the stadium, which I assume they did.
They added to the stadium, so the fans might be the furthest away from Kentucky, but I don't think the players will. Where do they walk in? Has the entrance changed? Is it further west than east? I think the entrance is on the south side.
Okay. I'm not sure, though.
I'll get boots on the ground to answer this in Austin. Find out if there's any orientation in the field that's changed at all.
Okay. Yeah, like even if they change the layout of the field and one of the end zone goes like five feet further west, that would be the furthest west they've ever played.
Right now I'm actually looking at the history of the renovations at DKR Stadium. They added suites.
When was the date of that game? 1951. post 1951 here uh they added lights so that was a day game okay um this is the important stuff i'm not i think it might be because they expanded both end zones okay so the walk in is going to be further away no matter what okay so might have something.
Okay. You're watching history when you watch that game.
Yep. Okay, last thing before we kick it to ourselves.
Hank, good job. We're going to talk about the Cavs with Pat Bev, but you broke up the Cavs.
Yep. Pop the champagne.
NBA Cup. They actually are very fun games.
It does feel like they try harder. I will say two things because there has been also a lot of talk and reports about the nba ratings being down and ask people you know asking what the cause is i do like the nba cup it makes it important the celtics lost the game last week to the hawks they never should have lost and all of a sudden if they had lost tonight then they would be screwed for the nba cup which is crazy but it made tonight's game that much more interesting i do not like the court i don't like i don't i think for a casual fan it's going to take a while for them to get the nba cup it just doesn't help it's like what is wrong with this court then you have to explain this whole long nba cup thing not a fan of the uh court i disagree i also hate wait wait are you a fan of the court? Are you not a fan of explaining to people? The courts.
I just don't like personally watching them. And it's like, why are they doing this? And they say it's because it's for the NBA cup.
I just don't think that's ever going to click to a casual fan. Like, ooh, new court.
I like it because it feels different. I like it because it comes with some nice time lapses.
Like, you get to watch when you see them changing the court out.

And the game feels different.

Yeah, it feels different.

It looks like you're watching it on Twitch.

It looks like it's in a Twitch streamer's room.

Yeah.

And I just hate the Celtics City Connect jerseys this year.

What are they?

They're Oregon jerseys.

I don't understand the City Connect,

we're going to connect it back to a city.

The Celtics have had the same jersey and scheme forever, and they just made jerseys. They legitimately look like Oregon.
Yeah, I don't love the crazy jerseys in the NBA. It's too many.
And the Cavs were playing on Sunday, and they were wearing blue jerseys. We've talked about it before on the show, but it's like when you turn on a game and you can't tell what the teams are unless you look at the scorebook, that's a problem.
It was when the Heat were wearing a yellow jersey and looked like the Pacers that I was like, this is too much. And it was I think the Blazers and Nuggets were playing and the Nuggets were wearing the Blazers colors.
Either way, we're running a contest, so we release our picks. We told you last week we release our picks on socials every single Tuesday for our NBA Cup picks So far we have

The first day so this isn't counting

What's playing right now

I'm 3-0, PFT's 2-1, Hank's 2-1

Max, you're 1-2

So you're at the bottom of both

Yeah and we're recording

This late right now

I just got absolutely fucked

In my pick for tonight

Okay so

But the NBA Cup you can bet on it in DraftKings

And you can follow our picks and we're running a competition. So we'll have the updated leaderboard.
I think I went 2-1. I'm going to be 3-3.
I went 1-2. Ah, shit.
I'm still waiting on the Spurs thunder. I like the NBA Cup, though.
It does feel different. November, NBA is tough to get into, and then you turn on the TV and it's a different court.
You're like, oh, okay. They're trying a little harder.
I want to win it. No team's ever won the NBA Cup and the finals.
So you'd have to win the finals after or are you counting it retro? No, no, no. We'd have to win the finals after.
Yeah, same year. Chris Paul has five assists.
I need two more. It's halftime.
I'm just going to count that as a win. So I'm 2-0.

Congrats.

I'm 1-1 right now.

I need AD tonight.

You need a – wait, say that again.

Oh, no.

Yeah, I need AD.

I need AD.

You need AD.

I need AD.

You need AD bad.

I need AD.

Bad.

In a big way.

Bad.

Bad.

I've been craving AD. I need AD D.
Bad. In a big way.
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Been craving a D. I need AD to be huge.
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My hot seat is John Stamos. Ah, I had that as well.
What's going with Stamos? I'm going to botch the pronunciation, but his friend and co-star, Dave Collier. Yeah, you could just say Uncle Danny, right? Dave Caillou.
Collier. Yeah.
Uncle Jesse, Uncle Danny. Fun fact, Danny wasn't actually an uncle.
Or no.

Yeah, I mean, that's... Joey was an uncle.

Stamos wasn't an uncle.

No, Joey...

It's not uncle.

Jesse was an uncle.

Jesse was an uncle.

I said it wrong.

Danny was the dad.

Uncle Joey.

Joey was the comedian that just lived.

Cut it out.

Yep.

He just lived in the house.

Very sad, but he was...

He revealed that he had a cancer diagnosis. Johnamos then To show support of him Did a photoshop of him Wearing a bald cap and posted that And that was his way to show it Crazy crazy crazy move Wait it was a photo he did a photoshop Of him wearing a bald cap He put on a bald cap and then he also Photoshopped it.
To make him look even extra bald. Extra bald.
More bald. I think he photoshopped where the lines on the bald cap are.
Yeah. Sounds like...
Insane move. Maybe his heart was in the right place? I don't think so.
I don't know. Couldn't cut his hair off? Well, I'll say this.
For his friend? I'll say this. There's one very lucky woman that's made the right decision not having to hang around that guy stamos anymore that would be rebecca romaine yeah talk about an upgrade moving on to joc i had it as my cool throne for joc cool throne joc joc is a stand-up guy joc would never do that joc is the just to shave his head yeah yeah 100 or just make a joke about how he's not going to shave his right and make it very funny and he would probably his lap like joc making you laugh would cure cancer yeah like that's how funny he is bing bong jesse yeah i like he blew it he blew it he would look at me like bing bong cancer you're out bing bong this is rebecca.
You know, Rebecca. This was crazy, though.

Like the fact that he did this, I guess the only little small part is that he admitted

to it.

Like it would have been worse if he had just pretended that he shaved his head.

But still an insane, insane move.

You I mean, just how big of a narcissist do you have to be?

Extremely.

That's that's really what it is.

It's like it is the how do I make this about me?

Right.

Don't even...

Just don't even...

Or just shave your head.

Or just don't shave your head, which you didn't do, and just don't wear a bald cap and be like,

I'm here visiting my friend.

I hope he gets better.

Crazy.

Also, some guys...

His culture is not your cost.

Right.

Yeah.

Some guys look better with a shaved head.

Hank.

Thank you.

One of them.

Facts.

He looks like just an evil, like an alien billionaire. He's a shaved head hank thank you one of them uh he looks like a just an evil like an alien billionaire he's a penis head what a dick jlc made me chuckle pretty hard monday night uh he just tweeted like need 44 from mixing tonight he almost got it yeah but that's just like a that's a very like yeah fantasy monday night like yeah yeah just let me i got one guy left just need.
Yeah. And we're we win this week.
Yeah. We're going to have JLC on I think next week for an update on the fantasy.
I miss JLC. Yeah.
We're going to have him because I know people are asking. My cool throne is Paul Skeens.
Yeah. That was.
He stole all my shit. Was he in the hot seat though? He was on the cool throne.
So you had two cool tonesones. I had two cool thrones.
I thought I was going to be okay, and it turns out I'm not. So Paul Skeen's great speech last night.
Can we play it? He was... Yeah, I don't want to...
Is it going to take too long? It probably will. Max is really bad at this.
Notice the speech goes on for a while. Oh, I thought you meant Max pulling it up.
No, it's really bad at that. I don't know if we have enough memory on the SD card.
But yeah, really heartfelt speech. Oh, we don't have sound again.
Wait, hit the sound thing. Yeah, there you go, producer.
Yep. I was waiting for a good time for you to start playing it, guy.
Okay, play it, guy. Yeah, come on, guy.
From all of us, what does this honor mean to you right now?

This is cool.

That's it.

He crushed it.

So good.

This is cool.

What more do you need to say?

You know what?

That was cool.

It was cool.

And what more do you need to say?

This is cool.

We don't need victory speeches where guys get up there and they misuse the word humble a million times.

Like every single award show, it's literally them sucking your dick. And God's dick.
And giving you an award for being great and being better than everybody else. And then you get behind the microphone.
You're like, yeah, now that you guys have all told me how great I am. The first word that comes to mind is humble.
Yeah. Yeah.
The meme of Paul Skeen's winning the rookie of the year and Paul Skeen sitting in firetruck. He's so much happier to be in a firetruck.
But that's what firetrucks do to people. Yeah.
Firetrucks are fucking cool. So did you hit Scooble? Is that not what this is? What is the award? They draw the whole thing out.
So tonight, if you're listening to this tonight, Tarek Scooble will win the AL Cy Young. What is it, like the 12 days of christmas it's crazy awards i've been waiting for this forever uh shout out the awl i gotta track him down who handed me a envelope on when we were in detroit for the draft and i opened the he handed to me walked away opened it and said take terek scoobel plus 400 to win the cy young It's fucking great why doesn't major league baseball do this like in the middle of the playoffs i know or before the playoffs start or just do like i or do it all in one night there was like major league baseball and and california yeah it's the same thing that they have going on they're like counting all the baseball writers signatures and matching them up to make sure the mail-in ballots are legit there was a i want, I want to say there was some type of event going on in Vegas with all the baseball players.
Why didn't they just do all the announcements then? It makes no sense. It makes no sense.
So yeah, shout out that AWL. I got to find it.
I got to find the original tweet. Just been sitting there for six months, but he nailed it.
Imagine if he doesn't win. I mean, you've jinxed this as much as any human being could possibly jinx it.
I mean, he was minus 2,000 the last time you could bet on it. He has to win it.
Yeah. That would be insane if he didn't win it.
I would be like voter fraud. This is unjinxable.
Yeah. I mean, this is...
You're Gucci. Oh, shut up.
I hate i hate that you just did that yeah his last odds were minus 5802 is that right is that possible would they take bets on that i mean if he loses there's someone in mlb's out to get me you know what i might i might fucking load up and see if i can just make some quick money on minus 5 000 now yeah let's go we're giving that out. I'm giving that out as an official pick.
I saw you on pick. An official pick.
How much money can I deposit responsibly? I don't think it's up anymore. I'm just going to see.
Hank, can you try to pull those odds up? Yeah, it's not up. Okay.
But let the record show I would have endorsed that pick. Yes.
My hot seat is the Utah hockey club. You pieces of shit.
You don't even have a fucking name. What kind of professional sports organization goes entire season just naming themselves after the sport? Alexander Vechkin was taken out by dirty knee to knee hitknee hit last night after scoring two goals, getting within 27 goals of tying Wayne Gretzky's all-time record.
Excuse me, 26 of tying the record, 27 of passing the all-time goals record. And he was on the best streak of his life, the way that Ovi started the season out.
39 years old, top goal scorer in the NHL. The Caps are on fire right now, and Ovi is just insane.
How many? So is he hurt? Yeah, they said week to week, lower leg injury. I looked at every single online Twitter doctor out there, and they came to the conclusion probably a torn MCL or a sprained MCL, which is the same thing depending depending on what grade the sprain is.
So he's week to week now, which probably means he'll be out for, I don't know, three weeks. But Ovi's different.
Russian machine never break. That was his famous quote when they asked him how he's been able to stay healthy throughout his career.
So I'm just going to hope and pray that whatever Putin's got left in the vault vault he can send over just inject it directly into ov's knee the that's the worst too because you can never figure out what a hockey injury is no lower body just no they will give no details nothing you can't even see like when when a guy gets hit he's got so many pads on that you can't you know where we zoom in on like a football player or basketball player like oh that's exactly what it was you just have no idea yeah and then i was watching right afterwards he goes back on the ice to try to skate on it see if he can do it and you're hockey tough and it looks like he's skating around but in reality he's just like barely touching one leg down and i'm like oh he can skate no you forget that they're wearing ice skates and so they can just glide on the other leg shit uh so yeah it's not good bad for hockey i would say yeah i'd agree i had i had done the math on this last night when he was on his tear and on this pace you know when he would have broken wayne gretzky's record when it would have been at edmonton felt like that was set up and he was gonna break it are you talking about this like two pace that he's been on? No, no. I took my own pace.
Here comes Hader Hank. Well, no, but like...
I did my own pace. I saw your tweet and I was like, that...
Did you start at Edmonton and work your way back? No, I did that my second time to see if I could increase the pace or decrease the pace. It was like, will Ovi break the record this year? That'd be crazy.
And PFT was like, January 21st. My pace that I had him on had him scoring, I think it was like .75 goals per game.
Okay. Which is taking, it's not as good of a pace as he's been on.
So at that pace, he would have broken it at Edmonton. Right now, I don't know if he's going to break it this season, which it stinks to maybe have to wait another year for this.
And people forget Ovi lost a full year to the first lockout, and then I think he lost like 50 games to the second lockout, plus COVID, lost games to that too. So he's actually on pace right now to break Gretzky's record in fewer games than gretzky played in which is kind of crazy that is crazy obi's been so much fun to watch his entire his entire career he was like the one bright light that dc sports had for a very long time so i've been counting down to to this for like the last seven years once it was theoretically possible so it stinks that those bastards in utah uh sent a hit out gretzky gretzky's got shooters i wouldn't be surprised if gretzky told biz like hey can you get on the horn with some of the guys that are up in utah i know you're not you know a lot of them from your time in arizona could you have i blame biz this is on theirs that's fair dirty guy fuck you guys um another hot seat is netflix because uh they're under a lot of pressure right now from the nfl yeah to make sure that they don't fuck up the christmas day stream like they did the jake paul mike tyson fight antonio brown could save their ass how uh he live streamed from his phone uh the jake paul mike tyson fight and he had seven million people watching it's pretty good he's taking a little pressure off him so he was live streaming from his Netflix no I think he was in the arena he was just doing the video board I love that 7 million people were watching did Antonio Brown have something to do with the roof panels falling off I don't know wouldn't surprise me so Netflix is in trouble because Christmas Day, with the Beyonce concert at halftime, probably going to have more viewers, I think, than the Jake Paul.
It's going to be close because that fight did numbers. Yeah.
Yeah. It's going to be close.
I don't know. What was it, 60 million was the total they were watching? So it might not be.
Average NFL game is, what, $20 million? I feel like this fight was like $34, $36 million. I don't know.
I think it was more than that. I saw $60 million as well.
Either way, Netflix has got to figure it out. They can make numbers up.
Yeah, they absolutely can. I guess that would be cool throwing NBA for Christmas Day.
Might be getting more ratings. No, they got cucked.
No, people would rather watch the wheel spinning. The wheel spinning? Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, how are you going to compete with Beyonce? Although the...
Oh, no, that's Thanksgiving. No, it's Steelers-Chiefs.
The Thanksgiving games suck. Whoa.
Yeah, they suck. One of them's good.
They suck. Which one's that, man? The Packers-Dolphins.
The Packers-Dolphins. It's pretty good.
I guess. I guess.
Yeah. But the other ones suck.
Hypothetically. Bears-Lions.
Sucks. Hypothetically, if the stream was not working on Netflix on Christmas Day, let's say 12 o'clock Central Time, that's when you're supposed to start.
We tune in. We start to watch.
It doesn't work for anybody. Does the NFL just delay the game until it can get broadcast? Or do they play it? No, but in those situations, the tech guys are like, it's fine.
It's fine. It's fine.
Yeah, all business Pete is sitting there being like, it's fine. I don't see any issues.
People are saying that it's fine. I can get on my phone right here in the stadium.
Yeah. Like, seriously, that would be an interesting problem for the NFLfl to have i think that they would delay the game i think they would delay it as long as it took to get it broadcast right yeah because you can't you can't play a football game and not have it be on tv i'd agree i have a question yeah why can't they just like get the pro the amazon guys and just be like hey help us yeah just Bezos ain't like that.
Bezos ain't like that. Bezos ain't like Peacock or.
Why would Bezos help Netflix? Bezos ain't like that. You just pay them.
They're all different production teams, right? That's true. Just get a bigger router.
Why no? Because Bezos wanted this game. It's like they competed.
Netflix won the rights to Christmas. Hey, we cucked you, got these rights, but now actually we need your help.
Yeah. They're going to be like, sure.
They're going to be a suck my dick. I feel like there's got to be a different production team that can put this on.
Servers. I don't know that it's the production team.
I think it's the Netflix infrastructure. They need a bigger router.
Yeah. Right.
They need a bigger router. Yeah.
I a bigger router yeah no i think amazon would be like no absolutely like fuck you for even asking us that question amazon has all the servers do you think pete could do it no absolutely not if he had the servers yeah i guess if he had the servers i feel like pete could do it no no it's just it's servers it's servers Pete, I want you to know that I think that you could do it. I think Pete- With no issues? No issues.
Also, can we get Pug and Shane some computers? Pete could definitely do it. Everyone tweet, everyone tweet all business Pete when you're listening to this and say Pug and Shane need new computers.
They have. Tweet them.
No, they don't have the desktops, though. They keep yelling at me to get the desktops.
I know. I know.
And Pete also, I think Pete has some free month trials for Netflix. So if anyone wants it for the game, tweet them and ask for a code.
Yeah, Netflix codes. Yeah.
I like how Hank said that Netflix bought the rights to Christmas. They did.mas is owned by netflix they did the handles at all business pete all at all business pete tweet him do you think uh i mean the craziest part about what netflix did to christmas and the nba is that they put it on their own app where you can't even flip back and forth to the nba games yeah it takes 30 seconds.
When the people with multiple TVs get a nice win.

Yep.

Get a nice win.

Okay, your cool throne?

My cool throne is the U.S. men's national team

and their new coach, Pochettino,

because he beat Jamaica 4-2 in some tournament

that I always forget the name of involving the words

Nations League CONCACAF Champions Tournament.

So they won 4-2 with Berhalter in the stands.

They made Berhalter go out and watch.

Thank you. involving the words Nations League CONCACAF Champions Tournament.
So they won 4-2 with Berhalter in the stands.

They made Berhalter go out and watch the game.

Cucked him. He sat in a little cuck chair in the corner

and watched Pepe and Pucilic dominate, just crush Jamaica.

Not to get political, but the Trump celebration is pretty fun. How everyone's doing it.
Is Pulisic getting under fire? He did it. I don't know if he's getting under fire.
I've seen more people saying like, what will it's going to be fun to watch Libs freak out about. Yeah, I feel like it's just a fun celebration.
I think it's just a fun dance to do. Yeah, you just do this.
Anyone can do it. Yeah, Anyone can do it.
Yeah. Yeah, so they went 42 against Jamaica, which leads us to a fun fact that now the U.S.
men's national team, and in fact, Greg Berhalter himself, who was fired in July of this year, he's got more wins in AT&T Stadium this year than Mike McCarthy and the Dallas Cowboys. Wow.
Wait, who does? Greg Berhalter, the fired coach, has more wins. But that wasn't the game, obviously, last night because they were playing football.
They were playing football last night. So he had already had that.
He already has those wins, even though he got fired in July. Got it.
Mike McCarthy will be fired. Doesn't have as many wins, even though he plays many more games.
That is a fun fact. I thought that was a fun fact.
Very fun fact. All right, my hot seat is, well, we're going to talk about it with Pat Bev, but I feel like we kind of glossed over it.
This Tyrese Maxey-Joel Embiid thing feels for real. What happened? So Tyrese Maxey called out Joel Embiid in a meeting and said that he's late and disrespectful to everyone.
I didn't realize that this is just like a well-known fact that he's always done this. There was a book written, what, in 2015, where everyone was like, Joel Embiid is just a terror to work with.
Feels like things are bad right now. Maxine and Embiid are friends.
They challenge each other often. What does that mean? Apparently, it was a constructive meeting.
What does that mean that they challenge each other? What about the 2017 comments? How many times did you practice this speech in the mirror before you sat down? Zero times. That's fake.
Maxine and Bede are friends. They challenge each other.
You had that ready to go. No, I mean, that's just a fact.
What about the allegations from the past? What were the allegations from the past, Hank?

That he showed up late and that he was a terror to the whole staff.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

What about those?

Did you say 2017?

Or whatever that book was.

Yeah, the book.

Who gives up?

Whatever the book came out.

I think that was maybe his rookie year.

Yeah.

It was when Brown was the coach, and he was mad because all of his assistants came up

to him, and they were like, hey, we have to have an intervention with you because Joel

is such a huge asshole to everyone that we needed to escalate this to the head coach. What's the date? We're worried about something 10 years ago? Nearly every member of the Sixers staff basketball was awaiting him.
Why are we here? Brown asked. He knew the meeting was about Embiid but didn't understand.
One of the assistant coaches stood up and said, Coach, we're here because there's a problem with Joel. He's disrespected just about everyone in this room and has become a major distraction.
You want to say something about when you were 18, Franny Lydon? No, I'm just saying. Ho, ho, ho! If it was still a problem 10 years later, then yeah, it's probably like a bad sign.
Yeah, if Hank was still on message boards.

Like him showing up late, that's different.

You think that's not a problem?

No, that.

What about the people?

I bet Ben said it wasn't a problem.

But what about the people saying that this is maybe the first time Embiid's ever been challenged?

It's said in the thing that Maxi and Embiid go back and forth at each other because there's a mutual respect and friendship. Sounds like there's not a lot of respect for Embiid.
You know what, you guys? This is where the national podcast thing turns disgusting. Why? All right, fine.
New segment alert, Hank. The national podcast thing turns disgusting.
Okay. New segment, a regional podcast,

Philly.

We're all right.

Philly.

Hey,

Hey,

welcome back to locked on Sixers.

Listen,

yeah,

we've won two games.

We're about to be losing to the wizards in the standings,

but like Joel's done so much for our cities,

you know,

so we got to give him some respect.

I think it's disgusting with some of the reporters in the locker room.

We're trying to do to divide us.

I,

we need to be unified and we're a great team.

I don't think that we change anything.

We don't change anything except maybe we keep the fucking reporters out of the locker room. Well, respectfully, Anthony and Gino, I disagree.
Joel Embiid's a bum. He's a bum.
He doesn't respect the hardworking people of Philadelphia. I get up every morning, 5 o'clock, think about the construction workers and the trash workers, and Joel Emb Joel B can't be there at 10 a.m.
for a shoot-around.

The problems with Joel started to get much more clear when Nick fucking Sirianni walked

through this door and he took his paws and put them all over a city and fucked it all

up.

He can't win a second-round matchup, but he can give us an MVP.

So, you know, you got to think about what he's given to us.

No, that's loser talk, Anthony.

All right.

How'd we do?

Great.

Really good.

That was a reach and reach for us.

I fucking love the fluffy eagles.

It feels like a problem.

Two and 11 in this feels like a problem.

Yeah.

It's November 19th. Okay.
So here's november it's november 19th okay so here's max here's where i think the real problem is um i'm sure that conversations like this happen a lot in nba locker rooms and we never hear about them i'm sure they're commonplace i agree with but the fact that it got out that tells me that there's something there tells me that people are sick of his shit because usually it wouldn't get out if it joe beat is maybe not been the best teammate shows up late whatever the story is but if he's playing well and the team's doing well that stuff never gets out he's playing poorly the team's playing poorly now the cracks start happening besides playing there's playing. There's a mole.
There's a mole in the organization which we got to sniff out because that should never have gotten out. That's correct.
But what if this is the turning point of the whole season and then we look back to this moment. This is a strange turning point.
Yeah. Or tank Cooper flag.
Oh. No.

I'm all right with both of those.

Max, you don't get to say that.

You don't get to say that because when I said that I want Cooper flag and I'm projecting Cooper flag, you said we are out.

You said the Sixers are out.

That's true.

I'm still in.

You're out.

Big Cat's in.

I'm out.

You said yourself.

I said I was out.

Yeah, but I say now I'm back in.

No, you can't do that.

You're out.

You're out.

Nope.

Back in. That's illegal.
That's illegal. I didn't realize i did that yeah you did i said i was out too i'm a man of my word thank you thank you hank man of honor what's crazy is that you're tied with the wizards right now it's nuts yeah i mean it doesn't it all doesn't fucking matter what point will it matter christmas so how many do you have to have by Christmas? How many times have we said on this show that the NBA starts till Christmas? I understand, but I want to hold you to this.
If this wasn't the Sixers, no one would care. Okay, agreed.
We would not be talking about this. Okay, if it was the Celtics, no.
If it was the Celtics, we would absolutely be talking about it. So lie.
Yeah, but Sixers, Celtics, that's it. Lie.
But Max, that's because you have these players, like the narrative that's been around them. The Bucs fucking suck.
We don't talk about that at all. I have.
I've brought it up multiple times. Yeah, I mean, what are we going to say? There's a mole in the bowls of the wizard? Like, we suck.
Nobody would care about that. Yeah, all right, so you have 13 games.
Christmas is your 13th game. How many wins do you have to have to be like, this is a problem? There's 13 games until Christmas.
I think you've got to get to 10 wins. I know.
10 sounds way too many. Let me see the schedule.
So you've got to go 10 wins and you've got to go 8 and 5. That's not that hard.
8 and 5 is not that hard. Oh, eight and five? Yeah.
Ten wins. Ten wins.

I can find you some.

Orlando twice without Palo.

There you go.

Chicago, Charlotte twice.

Detroit.

Yeah, there's eight.

Yes.

Ten wins.

Ten wins.

Got it.

Ten wins by Christmas.

Let's go.

Ten wins by Christmas. We're not allowed to talk about this until Christmas.

All right, but you have to get to ten wins.

Yep.

What if Yabu's the mole?

That. This never happened with B-Ball Paul.
All right, so Max, there's been a new wrinkle. A wrinkle reveal.
To the 76ers drama, to the saga. I want a saga.
What's the saga? We're doing this later on at night, 937. Somebody thinks that they found a leak of who reported this or of who gave the scoop away.

Okay.

This is from Raptor.

Wait, Max, Max.

I feel like memes right now.

Let me finish.

All right.

This is from Raptor Moments.

This is a stretch.

Raptor Moments?

Yeah, Raptor Moments online.

Raptor Moments is this source?

Yeah.

Well, just hear me out here.

Okay.

Wait, that's...

This is...

What's the name of the Twitter account? This is a... Raptor Moments.
This is a burner. Yeah, what? Huh? Okay.
Okay, well, just wait. Yeah, I'll hear it.
Okay. I'll hear the wrinkle.
All right, so the quote from the article was, Tyrese loves the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room, a person involved in the meeting told ESPN. If you go back to the Raptors over the last couple years, Nick Nurse is very fond of using the phrase elephant in the room.
He's done it at least three times. A common phrase.
A common phrase. This is an insane addition.
This is like Tatum stealing people's quotes, and the quotes are like, let's fucking go. What's his name? For saying an elephant in the room? Yeah, for saying an elephant in the room.
Everyone says an elephant in the room. That's like every report ever.
This is Raptor Moments. I believe Raptor Moments.
2,000 followers. Wait, Raptor Moments isn't actually reporting anything.
They're literally just being like, look, this phrase was used and this phrase was used. Yeah, Raptor Moments is connecting the dots.
Right, but you can't believe Raptor Moments because Raptor Moments doesn't have any actual knowledge of this. No actual knowledge whatsoever.
Yeah, he's just saying, oh, Nick Nurse has said elephant in the room and this person did? So Nick Nurse is the... I like the thought.
I do like to believe that. But an elephant in the room.
His coach is snitching on his players only meetings. That is a funny thought.
Yeah. So I'm going to believe it.
It also wasn't a players only meeting. Another fan pointed out that in a past NBC Sports Philadelphia story, it's explained that Nick Nurse said on Danny Green's podcast in 2018 that he had a mini elephant on his desk in Toronto which metaphorically helped him prevent obvious concerns with the team from growing before being addressed Nick Nurse loves the phrase elephant in the room everyone uses he had a fucking elephant when there's an elephant in the room You use the phrase elephant in the room He's right about that Yeah but if you walk into Nick Nurse's office There's always an elephant in the room He has an elephant on his desk To remind himself of elephants in rooms Have you ever used the phrase elephant in the room? Not to a reporter Wait what was the original quote? The original quote? It was the most standard quote of all time.
I'll read the quote. Tyrese loves the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room.
He was talking about how Tyrese loves Joel. Wait, but who wrote that? That was in the ESPN report.
So that wasn't even a quote. What? No, that is a quote.
The direct quote is from an anonymous source. Tyrese loves the big fella.
But this is the elephant in the room. No, Max, you don't know how to read quotation marks.
Tyrese is the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room is the quote. From an anonymous source.
An anonymous source with the Sixers. Max, you're looking at an apostrophe.
That's just the one mark. The quotation mark is two.
Who gives a fuck? Everybody says elephant in the room when there's an elephant in the room. I mean, it seems like Nick Nurse is obsessed with elephants.
Who else would the source be then, Max? Because it seems like we got one good lead and nothing else. Yeah.
That's a great lead. Hey.
Okay, here's the only pushback I'd have. Wasn't part of the report that the sixers players were like hey nick nurse you need to coach us harder why would nick nurse leak that his players are mad at him because he also in the report they said that in turn the players have to pay more attention to detail okay so maybe it is nick nurse so maybe nick nurse and the meeting was like, that's fair criticism.
I'm going to hear you. But can I ask you to also you buy in as well and we'll meet in the middle.
Good coaching. Okay, I'm on team.
Yeah, it was Nick Nurse. It was stupid.
It was a stupid thing. I mean, Max, I think everybody agrees.
He swayed me. Could you imagine if memes got this news? We should stop listening to reports.
We just went from the athletic to Raptors moment. Raptors moments with an S.
We should stop listening to reports. It's fucking us up.
Okay. Back to whatever we were talking about.
Okay. My cool throne is Kentucky basketball.
because i don't know if you guys saw but john calpa perry uh is now begging fans to show up to basketball games in arkansas and he was like if you don't want to come to the game give us the tickets back we'll find someone who can come to the game and uh they have also not looked great in the start of their season. And then on the other side, Kentucky, there's a clip going around that's awesome.
It's Mark Pope coaching in the huddle, essentially telling his players exactly what Cooper Flagg is going to do on that last possession against Duke and being like, this is how we're going to defend it. He's going to spin.
We're going to send the extra man, two hands, take the ball away.

And then it's like a cut up where he's saying it and it happens exactly like that.

Something that Kentucky basketball is missing, that in-game coaching.

So Kentucky basketball, good for you guys.

Yeah, it's an awesome clip.

It makes you think that Mark Pope is going to be a great coach.

Yeah.

But we are very easily sold on clips like that.

But I also saw, like, Cal in the red looks weird, and then him being like, please come to the games. Yeah.
Not a great look. They are 3-1.
They lost to Baylor, who's a pretty good team. But they also have kind of, like, they had a couple games where they were struggling a little bit with lesser competition.
Yeah, it's not. I would say so far, Kentucky won this trade.
Yes. For sure.

And also, Kentucky...

This also is probably because they were

playing against Duke, but Kentucky

seemed like a fun team. Yes.
Like an

easy, fun team to root for. I'm

sure that once they start becoming more

Kentucky, then they will be easier

to hate. But going up against Duke

and beating Duke in that way,

it made me feel things for the University of Kentucky. I got a little soft spot for Kentucky.
I got no problem with Kentucky. And that's probably because it's 2015.
What? I guess you beat them. Yeah, right.
Like, it's just. They beat you.
I know, but it's also like that was, I mean, they were undefeated that season. So, and I love Matt Jones and those guys.
So, yeah, I want Kentucky basketball to be good. I might be an honorary member of Big Blue Nation.
I don't know. Mark Pope.
I mean, very loosely honorary. Meaning, like, I'd put a future on him and be like, go Kentucky.
And then when they lost, he'd be like, oh, well, I lose it anyway. I like Kentucky.
You're right. The sport is better when Kentucky basketball is good.
I will say and repeat whatever propaganda Kentucky fans want me to do if it means that I get one step closer to at one point becoming a colonel. Being a Kentucky colonel would be sick.
That would be sick. Okay, we have more basketball talk with our guy Pat Beck.
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Right, right. Every American, every coach, every import, every import from another country, everywhere I go, it's, you know, they beat us.
Oh, we beat NBA team or NBA players. So I'm getting everyone's best shot.
Yeah. But that's what I asked for.
So it's perfect. Yeah.
How are the fans over there? Phenomenal. I mean, like, you got to think, I'm thinking like 8,000 to 9,000 a game.
It's a lot of smoke with Israel and other countries. So, like, we can't go play in Turkey.
We have to meet at a mutual site. So we'll meet in Serbia.
Teams that it's smoke with we always meet in a mutual site all our israeli games are played in israel of course but yeah our european league games the games that it's a you know a greek a greek team or a turkish team or you know any team like that or it's kind of smoke we all we always meet at a mutual site so what about the game how does the game translate to uh to the israeli league so first so first the the minutes i showed we play 10 minutes a quarter okay that's that's timing wise uh you can't it it's no um defense of three seconds so you can just stand in the paint off park out yeah yeah all day right so it's really beat your man to activate the big guy to make the next play, right? So you don't see a ton of guys scoring, I don't know, 20s and 25 points a game over there. Yeah.
So there's a guy just standing under the hoop basically just swatting shots. All day, all day.
That's crazy. Yeah, literally living in the paint, crowded paint, making you make the right play consistently every single time.

And you haven't gotten a technical yet.

Is that because of the language barrier?

Because I'm sure you've said things that should get you a technical.

Yeah, I just been, I don't know.

It's wild.

When I play, when I had a ball a lot, I'm so focused on the game

and focused on, okay, trying to win the game,

trying to do small things to win the game that I'm not over dramatic or over like i wouldn't say emotional but just uh in in character yeah in the nba i can do that i can get away with that a lot and they're quicker to give me a tech also yeah is it more like you're also like in the nba you there's the pat bev role where you come in you fuck shit up yeah you're kind of a pest you make things a problem for you get in their heads now and then i would imagine maybe i'm wrong but in uh in your current setup you get in

the game because you were expected to be like a leader and i don't know how ball dominant you are

but you're like one of the best players it's yeah over there yeah the superstar so you can't be

getting texts can't be getting texts can't have that type of energy you know so it's all it's for

me it's okay i'm seeing double teams every night i'm seeing triple teams every night i'm seeing uh

Thank you. getting taxed can't be getting taxed can't have that in a type of energy you know so it's all it's for me it's okay i'm seeing double teams every night i'm seeing triple teams every night i'm seeing uh you know the the best defenders on me every night i'm seeing i'm dribbling ice so i see guys running to me oh i gotta make extra play so it's just a different role i'm yeah so the people that are saying like pat bev got soft because he's not getting technicals what would you say to those people i mean my numbers are getting better offensively so so I guess it's working.
More focused. Yeah, more locked in.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I can get away with it in the NBA because, you know, NBA, the refs, they know me. They know me.
I'm an elbow, I'm a motherfucker. I'm going to say, yeah, he's a bum ass.
He can't fucking shoot. Fuck you.
You know, I'm going to say that type of shit in the game, which is, they'll give me a tech, but they're not going to really kick me out. You know, you can work your way with the refs in the NBA.
Yeah. All right, so I question for you how tough questions okay two first tough question is um the way last year ended not the best because obviously you guys got bounced you threw a pass to someone like i look ready for a pass no uh he's wearing a uniform yeah oh you're just trying to get some numbers up on the pod afterwards.
No. You were just asking people to subscribe.
No. Do you think any of that, like, how did it work in the offseason when you were trying to figure out where you were going to play? Was that part of it at all, or was it you wanted to go play in Israel? I don't think it helped.
It didn't help. Right.
Yeah. I'm going to say that.
I don't think it helped. But we still had two, three offers for the minimum.

Yeah. You know.
So it wasn't like a blackballed situation. No, I don't think so.
I had offers. See, I got offers now to come back.
Are you looking at those offers? I am. I mean, the goal, I would assume, is to eventually get back in the NBA, correct? I mean, not back in the NBA.
it's

it's

it's

when you're out of it

right

and you see teams that you used to be on kind of struggling a little bit. All of your teams.
Yeah, and you see that, you know, your setup, you know, the stage that you're on and like the big stage. Yeah.
Like being away from it, there's no other fucking stage like that. Yeah.
Like no other stage. And I don't't give a fuck and i'm not even talking about a playoff game or a cup game or like a eastern conference game or a championship game i'm i'm absolutely talking about fucking game 16 of the season you're on the fucking biggest show in the world right there's no other place like that right so like organically as a kid nba dream i feel the need of like damn i want that i want to go back back there yeah and the one thing I love about you is you have the utmost confidence at all times that's why you're that's why you've made it so far in the NBA that's why you've played for so long was how last season ended was it humbling at all where it's like okay Pat like just take a step back maybe gotta you know like was there any of that no okay in my mind you got to think in my mind i'm like shit i just literally want a playoff game by myself i ain't gonna say by myself but you know the uh you got everyone injured on the on the box yeah yeah and then i had to step up and then we win an elimination game that you know a lot of people counted us out for so in my mind and you know with the you know different games in boston and you know the the freedom I had with Nick Nurse and the freedom I had with the Bucs, for me that was probably one of my best NBA offensive years ever.
Yeah. You know? Yeah.
So I took it as, okay, cool, I still got a lot of juice in the tank. I take care of my body like a motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying? Like I spend a ton on my body each year to be healthy and, you know, prepare for an entire season.

So to me it's like, okay, now I've made a ton of money.

I made, you know, almost $100 million in the NBA.

I get to go somewhere else where they're paying me more

than the minimum, which, you know, no matter if I had

a career year or not, if Russell Westbrook takes minimum,

Kyle Lowry takes minimum, guess what?

Pat Bev, you get minimum.

Yeah.

That's just how it is.

Yeah.

Regardless of my play or a ball getting thrown or whatever the situation be and i don't think that's fair that's the that was my issue right i work my ass off i had better years than all the motherfuckers why the fuck i'm getting the minimum yeah yeah okay just uh podcaster to podcaster after the game when they ask you to elaborate on what happened yeah instead of just right away saying subscribe to the pat bev pod i know you're a great marketer but instead of saying that right away why don't you do like a tease you you'll start answering the question and you say to hear my full thoughts subscribe to the pat or you could do a podcast live in person to that reporter answer the question but in the middle of your answer throw in an ad read yeah so you start talking about what happened and then he says by the way it's uh subscribe to better help betterhelp.com yeah but mine was like originally that was mined throughout since i've had the pod right yeah you've been doing that that wasn't just a one-off yeah that wasn't yeah i agree with that have you thought about maybe instead of saying are you subscribed to pat bev pod you can can't ask me a question unless you subscribe to the Pat Bev pod if you ask them are you subscribed to Pardon My Take because the answer would probably be yes so then they can ask you the question. No, probably not though.
Depends on who I'm talking to. That was an NBA crew.
I mean that was an ESPN crew I'm talking to. They don't like us.
No, they're closeted fans. They go home in shame.
They won? They go home in shame. They won't admit it.
They won't admit it. For sure.
Yeah, no, that was, I mean, obviously, I think you said it afterwards, like, you should have handled it better, but it wasn't, it did get spun out as, like, I can't believe he said this. Like, no, he's been saying it all year.
Yeah, but it's like that because we're in media. Right.
So anything that, you know, is frowned upon, I don't know, something done, they go try to make the next thing seem like the worst thing. You know what I'm saying? I've never punched anyone, right? I never hit any of my teammates.
I never said, fuck you, coach, I'm walking out of practice. I've never got kicked out of practice ever since I've been in the NBA.
You know what I'm saying? So, like, my behavior is one thing, but, like, it's a lot of shit that I haven't done also, you know, which shows why i've been in the league so long also yeah right yeah no there's a reason why you keep getting you keep getting signed to teams in the nba is because you're a valuable piece and a good teammate for the most part yeah yeah but sometimes they get caught up in like the theatrics but we said at the time we were like pat has been telling every reporter since i have the you had the podcast. It's a standard answer for you.

I've got an easy question for you.

Talk to me.

And we talked about it a little bit

on Sunday when you came in.

You're playing overseas in Israel.

Solve the Mideast crisis.

Wow.

Solve the

Middle East crisis.

Let's create peace in the Middle East.

Yeah.

For one, I don't think that I can solve it. Okay, good answer.
That's a really good answer. That's the right answer.
That was a really good answer. Right.
So how are you keeping up with the NBA while you're over there? What's the time difference like? So, oh, shit. So what? My 3 p.m., it's 7 a.m.
here. So, the first game, 6 p.m., is probably like 1 o'clock in the morning, my time.
Okay. Right? So, not keeping it up with a ton of highlights.
But now that I'm with DraftKings, shout out to DraftKings. It's kind of exciting to kind of be up a couple hours now trying to see scores, trying to see who the fuck goal score wasn't in the first quarter type shit.

Shout out DraftKings. Alright, so I got a question about this NBA, the Cavs.

I mean, this is

running on Wednesday, so they play the Celtics

in a few hours and they might lose that

game, but they started undefeated.

What is

it about the Cavs? I mean,

Kenny Atkinson is a really good coach. He was my coach in Clippers.

So, yeah, so tell me about Kenny Atkinson.

What does he do that makes

it, because it feels like the Cavs, last year

the is it about the Cavs? I mean, Kenny Atkinson is a really good coach. He was my coach in Clippers.
So, yeah. So, tell me about Kenny Atkinson.
What does he do that makes it, because it feels like the Cavs, last year they were a good team, playoff team, but this is they're playing out of their mind right now. So, when he had, first off, Kenny A is a player's coach, right? First off, when you speak about Kenny A, you gotta understand this is a coach that crosses every T, dots I right when I was there he wasn't the coach running to go work with Kawhi Paul George he was working with me Nick Batum and Zubak you know so you can understand this kind of collar of work dealing with the type of players he dealt with and he was the head of the individual performance side you know so when you see a coach coach like that, his ability, I think he ran our offense.
But the way he teached it, the way he taught it, the way he ran it. I don't think I've ever heard him say, I don't know, probably heard him say some curse word, but never at someone.
Phenomenal guy. Phenomenal man.
Phenomenal man man and i think like if you if you have your coaching is all about your it's never about x and o's there is somebody down there fucking coaching staff got x and o's it's all about how hard can your players play for you motivation yeah right so right you can be a coach that has zero x knows but you have your team run through a motherfucking wall from you that's half the battle right there there. And that's all coaching is.
That's all coaching is. And the moment you take a player's side, and the moment you do something that just, you know, not go, you know, because as a coach, you have to think.
You're a coach, you're a father figure also. That's literally where coaches start from.
But the moment you cross that line because of money, the moment you cross that line because relationships, start letting guys do what they want, that's when you become a bad coach and lose the shit. All the good coaches, they coach the same.
Obviously, you have your star players, but we're going to coach you the fucking same. No, you can't be late or you can't be fucking late.
That's how we're going to run things. So if you have more of those, I think the game will change with basketball and with coaching, and that's all you're saying right there.
How much of the Cavs' success is because of the dancing frog? Put me on. I'm not aware so there was in Cleveland there was a guy in a frog costume that he was dancing in the streets after the Cavs won a couple games and now they've invited him in and he dances in the arena after they win how important is that if you're a player because I feel like that's pretty damn important okay I mean as a player I probably wouldn't even know that okay yeah yeah yeah I probably wouldn't even know that.
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I probably wouldn't even know that as a player. From a fan's perspective, I would say Kenny Atkinson deserves, I don't know, 20% of the credit.
The players, another 20. The Dancing Frog, 60%.
Okay. So from a fan, if you come there, Dancing Frog's not there, he's sick, you're like, oh.
We're losing.

Yeah, we're losing.

We're frogs.

Fake an injury.

Classic fan.

I like that though.

Yeah, give you a little management that night.

Yeah, it's like a gang within the game type of vibe.

Yeah, well, it's also one of those situations where every team that has that momentum and they're maybe like on the cusp of a special season,

it always feels like there's some little funny story that they start rallying around whether it's a slogan a dancing frog and we've seen a million times i'll give 25 credit to george niang yeah most wins in the nba since 2020 yeah and he's a he's he can hoop though yeah he can plays the right way yeah plays the right way all the time yeah he can hoop though yes i'm reading right. Jared Allen said, I've been wanting to dance with that frog since I've seen him.
So he was, and then Froggy the Frog finally showed up. Wait, his name's Froggy the Frog? Yeah, Froggy is here.
That's, okay. Froggy is here.
Oh, it's a she. I'm sorry.
Froggy is a she. Froggy is here and there are no plans for her to leave anytime soon.
Love that. City has embraced a dancing frog after the Cavs wins.
I need to understand. So, yeah, this is Miss Froggy.
Miss Froggy. Yeah.
And the whole city is just embracing the frog. Love that.
I think that's more important than people realize. It's just, it's a dancing frog.
Yeah, do vibes have anything to do with a team's success? Like, if a city is having fun? Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, though.
You go to a place like Miami. The vibe's always going to be fun, right? But you don't want it to be too fun.
It drains you, right? I think some of our sick game days and sick, you know, the night before the games is like Phoenix. Well, you can have some fun.
You can have a nice dinner. You can go out to a nice bar, but you're not going to be out to, you know, 4 o'clock in the morning, 5 o'clock in the morning.
That's a 1.30 type of night. But with the same amount of fun, the same adrenaline pumping through your veins, the same vibes going through around, you know.
But it gets when you're to a place like New York, and it's a lot of distractions and, you know hour here hour there next thing you know it's time to go to sleep and you're trying to battle with the time of getting rest and not doing things but keeping routine i think that's when it becomes a problem then so i got a dumb question how often if you're a player are you looking at the standings are you actually like okay where are we at the standings? Is it every day or is it just like we're playing? Every five games.

Every five games you look at it? Yeah, so every five games will kind of

tell you exactly where you

headed at. So if you're the

Sixers right now and you look at the standings and you're

2-11. Man, unbelievable.

2-11. Is that right, Max?

Can we get a stat check on that? I'll pull it

up because I texted to the group last

night just to make

Max aware. They're 12 games out of first place and they've only played 13 games.
My question to you all, who do you think they need more? Was it? Pepe. Yeah, 2-1.
Embiid, Paul George, or Maxie? Maxie's been out. All three of them I think they need.
The game that they've won, Maxie's played. Okay.
Is the record correct, Max? It's 2-11. That would be 2-11 correct and 11 correct two and 11 that's bad yeah how at what point in the season are you like because you've been on some teams that have not been great like is there a moment in the season where like all right this is kind of what we are um no you keep fighting yeah yeah you always keep fighting yeah right now i've not I haven't been on like a 2-11 team.
I'm shit with the Lakers.

Oh, yeah. Oh.
Yeah. Yeah, that was bad.
That was brutal. Where'd you guys end up that year? I don't know.
I ended up with the Bulls that year. Yeah.
Yeah. Hell of a run we made, too.
Yes. We made a run all the way to losing the playing game.
15-8 since I was there. 15-9 since I was there.
Yeah Jerry Reinsdorf special, lose the playing game. You think the Sixers, they could use a guy like Patrick Beverly? Any team, right? Any team.
I'm not gassing myself, but my work has been shown in the NBA. Any team.
Any team. When you get Pat, you adapt my personality to the team more than anything.
So the personality might be I don't know game I don't know 39 and you're playing in fucking Portland and it's cold and it's fucking gray outside. My competitive spirit go feel like game 39, game 2, game 3 of the playoffs.
I'm catching vibe and it rubs off on you my ability to be focused and shoot around and treat each game like a championship game like that shit rubs off on you and next thing you know yeah you playing 82 games but you treating the motherfuckers all like playoff games too so the energy is different you know the competitive spirit is there more you know when i'm on when i'm on a um when i'm on a team yeah and that's the the spark because it's a long season and you see that all the time where teams will just kind of take off nights they don't take off a night with pat bev on the team yeah i can't yeah yeah and at the same time i'm i'm the player also that's still trying to prove myself yeah so i'm like okay fuck it this guy's not playing okay this is. Okay, this is my time to come up and show every motherfucker, yeah, I can score it.
Oh, this guy's not playing. Okay, cool.
Let me lock his ass up. So it's always an opportunity for me.
I always took it as an opportunity to showcase my talents also. Yeah.
Is there one team that you watch not being in the NBA right now and you still feel like you root for them more? Like that was a special team? The Bucs. Yeah, man.
I saw you, you told Giannis, make your free throws. Yeah, that's my dog.
Yeah, that's my dog. I just, was there a short time, but like, when you go to the playoffs with a team, right, and you go through, not only the playoffs, but like, ups and downs with a team, right? And then you go through the playoffs, you go through the ups and downs, then you go through injuries with a team, right? I mean, that's everything you can ask for in sports, all summed up in one.
And to have a chance that happened all from my time there until the playoffs, it made us, okay, fuck it, no Giannis. We got to get closer.
We got to get better. Oh, fuck it.
No Middleton. Oh, fuck it.
We got to get better. We got to get closer.
Fuck it. No Dame.
Oh, fuck it. We no dang oh fuck we gotta get better we gotta get closer just made you a tight net ass family yeah you know and and then you know you have those opportunities the the playoffs the guy's not healthy everyone's rooting against you you're on the road it it forces a bond that you know you don't get from a lot of teams yeah you do you feel if you're a pat bev and you're playing on a team with LeBron or Giannis, do you feel extra pressure being like, there's a standard that they're playing at that I have to reach? Yeah, so it was one time I was with the Lakers and we were playing in Boston.
And I think I just got a tip dunk or I think I just hit a, and I'm at the free throw line, and I missed a free throw. And then Bron gave me a look like, come on, man, make your motherfucking free throws.
Right. And I'm like, oh, shit.
You right. Yeah.
Right? But now I take that. I think I've only missed three free throws this entire year.
And I remember that. That was my motivation to, you know what, make your motherfucking free throws.
That's like the definition of greatness is a great

player lifts everyone else's

game. So now that's me on my

team. I don't give a fuck man.
I don't give a fuck

how many free throws you miss one through three fourth quarter

make your fucking free throws. And do you have

that feeling too like say you're playing with Giannis

where it's not

like Giannis has got us but

I would imagine players play with more

confidence knowing Giannis is on your team and not

their team. Yeah and and then also on the other end, players play with less confidence when you know you got to go against Giannis.
Yeah, right. And I can make more mistakes.
Right. So my mistakes aren't magnified if Giannis is not out there versus when he is out there.
Yeah. So I can go for steal.
I can take a bullshit-ass charge. That ref might call charge because of my name,

not because of how my footing was.

I might take fucked-up shot.

I might go offensive rebound when I'm supposed to get –

Giannis got us.

Ron got us.

But that comes with greatness also.

And I'm learning that on the other end also.

Now that I'm playing where I'm playing at,

it's a lot of stuff that my teammates are allowed to do

that I just can't do.

They're looking to you.

Have you seen Cooper Flag play basketball?

Football player.

Basketball.

Never played basketball.

No, I haven't seen that.

Handsome white guy.

White boys might be back.

Yeah.

He might be the number one pick.

American white boy.

White boys might be back.

A lot has changed since you've gone to Israel.

He's so white.

The dude's from Maine. White boys might be back.
Cooper lot has changed since you've gone to Israel. He's so white.
The dude's from Maine. White boys might be back.
Cooper Flagg. Cooper Flagg, yeah.
Just keep your eye on that guy. He can ball.
He can hoop. He might be the first white guy drafted number one overall.
American white guy drafted number one overall since like the 70s. Yeah, but my thing about that, I like him.
I like him at Duke. I like him.
You've never seen him play? I've never seen him play up close in person but i've seen highlights okay okay he has size yeah um fact and he has it seems like he has some type of toughness he's got toughness and i think and i think regardless of what your skill is is that if you have size and you have toughness that's gonna carry you he's so good he's an he's an elite white guy that plays at Duke that is not hateable. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, it's a long season.
Right now, he's an easy guy to root for because he's just so fucking good. Yeah.
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Now more Pat Bev. Who had the most toughness that you ever played with? The most toughness.
Where you're like, damn, even... Because you're considered obviously a tough player.
Yeah. But you see you play with someone or play against someone, and you're like damn even because you're considered obviously a tough player yeah uh but you see you play with someone or play against someone you're like damn even even i feel kind like a wimp compared to this person russ yeah that motherfucker tough he don't die yeah yeah he just keep coming at you don't just i don't give a fuck fuck we down we're up i don't give a fuck what's going on i'm just keep coming at you keep coming at you like russ easy yeah unbelievable toughness i i can i see that yeah did you ever have a teammate that was that tough that was like uh you know like respect you two kind of went at it see who could be the toughest guy on your own team who was going to be the tough guy no because it's always you no yeah and like i get on the team with me and bob Bobby, but I'm older, so it's like Bobby understands it.
I went to Arkansas before him. You know, I've paid the way, you know, before him.
So it's always a respect thing. And I'm coming.
You got to think, when I'm on the team, I'm not coming like, hey, man, give me the motherfucking ball. I want to shoot it, you know.
Like, no, I'm not coming like that. I'm coming more like, hey, you know, if we swing that around a couple more times, you get that same shot wide open type you know so like it's just it's just different yeah you talk about yannis earlier you do a pretty funny impression of yannis like the first time that he told you like i want to play with you one day yeah you just can you tell that story no uh so i uh we're home we're playing milwaukee and uh i'm with with Minnesota.
And how the Western Conference and the Eastern Conference work that you don't really get to see Eastern Conference home a lot. It's just one home, one away.
So I think we've seen them in the first game of the season. And obviously, you know, we've seen them in Milwaukee.
So, you know, you want to play them while you're at home're at home. You practice pregame thinking it's Giannis.
You take your nap. Okay, cool.
You're thinking it's Giannis. You get to the game.
I don't see any Giannis. I'm fucking frustrated now.
I'm actually angry now. I think I got kicked out of that game.
game I think I've only played that game that same game that we're talking about I think I only played two minutes I think I shoved the guy and they kicked me out literally so we're working out pre-game I don't know 70 on the clock before the game starts and I see Giannis is a late scratch. I go, man, what the fuck, man? I wanted to play him.
I go out. I see Thanasis.
Shout out to Thanasis, his older brother. And his older brother has always been a fan of me, obviously, because I played in Greek when they were, you know, around there at the same time.
So he's always been a fan of, you know, my upbringing and howase. So I see him, and I'm like, yo, where the fuck your brother at? Why the fuck he ducking smoke? He laugh at me.
Like, nah, nah, man. He in the back.
He in the back. Nah, fuck that, man.
Tell his ass to play. So I start my workout.
I look up. I see Grease coming out the tunnel.
Okay. For sure he about to come over here he go excuse me guys excuse me guys excuse me guys like you gotta understand this is like uh this is greek freak yeah this isn't like uh i don't know grayson allen or somebody yeah you know this is Greek Freak walking through another professional's individual shooting time with other NBA coaches.
Stopping, excuse me, guys. Like, stopping everything.
Like, Pat, I never duck smoke. I never duck smoke.
I never, never I duck smoke. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, shout out to Greek, man.
That was the first time I'm like, oh, yeah, this motherfucker the real deal yeah motherfucker the real deal he's he also is like he's i feel like he because of the injuries and how everything's gone down the couple last couple years people have kind of forgotten him yeah like how great he is yeah i don't think forgotten i think that you know when you don't win it you get hurt you don't win it i don't know you win it yeah you win it while you're hurt you know you know you fuck this up early in that playoffs. Come back, give a motherfucker 60.
I think they're looking for that person all the time now since that happened. And I don't think that's fair to the player.
That was a legendary run he went on. That final's just absolutely dominant.
And then afterwards, he goes to Chick-fil-A and orders 50 chicken nuggets. Just a regular dude.
What was your favorite memory being teammates as Robin Lopez? Robin Lopez. I wasn't teammates with Robin Lopez.
Yeah, you were. He tweeted last year, February 8, 2024.
This is the trade deadline. I enjoyed being teammates with Patrick Beverly for all of an hour and 45 minutes.
I'll never forget those times. He's great, too.
Him and Brooke are great. You were teammates for an hour and 45 minutes.
Yeah, I don't think we even shook hands.

No, there's no way.

No, no way.

You didn't show off that.

No, no way.

Uh-uh.

He's great, though.

Yeah, the Lopez has been playing forever.

That family is great, man.

Mom is great.

Brooke went off the other night.

Didn't he?

What did he hit?

He went five for five from threes?

And I think he had the Magic Johnson up and under layup, too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're still dying. Hey, I have a teammate question though for real.
Yeah. B-ball Paul.
Paul Reed. Yeah.
Is he as cool as I've made it out in my head? Okay. Will you say cool? I mean, his nickname is B-ball Paul.
All right. That's it.
Okay, I got a question. When you look at a person like Paul Reed what do you instantly see well it's not looking at him it's the fact that he's b-ball Paul and they chant b-ball Paul and that's like the funniest nickname possible Frank the Tank vibe yeah right b-ball Paul like that's a funny kind of like the frog in Cleveland that's the fan experience yeah I mean you tell Max b-ball Paul I mean he hustles.
I love B-Ball Paul. He's not on the Sixers anymore, but he's a guy who came from the G League.
Out the mud. Out the mud.
The Out the Mud sweatshirts are funny and cool that he would make his own merch and sell it himself. Yeah, that was the other thing.
You'd have to just Venmo him. I Venmoed him for a shirt.
He didn't have a store. Yeah, he sent me out the mud.
Yeah, no, he's like a good success story. You know, fought for what he got, and he was a good player.
He's a dog. Yeah.
Yeah. B-Ball Paul.
I mean, you can't just throw a dog on everybody. I think B-Ball Paul's a dog.
A dog? Yeah. What kind? There's a difference.
I have a Yorkie. Yeah, I know.
You have a little... You have almost a cat.
Yeah. He might be like a golden retriever.
Yeah. Just like lovable.
Right. Yeah, right.
You like when he's around? Love when he's around. He's a golden retriever and then also like he's very lovable.
Also, maybe has like saved a kid out of a well or something. Type shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's had one like great moment where you're like damn. He had the dog that got the key to the city for having a great week.
Yeah. And then fell in a well.
Had to get helped out. Yeah.
Right. Right.
Right. We're on the same page.
So you were talking about Maxie earlier. Hank just sent this over to us here.
There's a report that the Sixers held a team meeting last night,

and Tyrese Maxey called out Joel Embiid for being late, quote,

to all team activities and everything.

Everything?

And everything.

Period?

All team activities and everything.

So that implies everything is even not team activities.

He's just late on everything.

He's just late to everything.

Damn. And he cites how that impacts the locker room, other players, and coaches.
Does being late, does that make an effect on the general climate of an NBA team? I think on any team. I think in any workspace also.
Right? I've always liked to be, I don't know, seven, eight minutes anything well let's be honest here we came recorded at 11 what nope it was at 10.30 but we recorded at 11 what time did you walk in? 12 minutes before recording you walked in at 10.41 19 minutes before recording okay. So I'm actually on time.
Okay, okay.

But as far as basketball though,

I'm the guy that's like,

I like to be on the bus first.

I like to be in the weight room first.

I like to be ready like that.

You're not on time.

It can rub off some people.

But if you're not on time and you give him motherfucking 70, it, it's been times with Joel and B, wasn't on time to motherfucking to practice. And you know me, come on, Joe, man.
What's up, G? Come on, man. Come on, Joe.
Come on, Joe. Be better, Joe.
Be great, Joe. Be great.
And then his response would be like, what the fuck, man, you getting me out of fucking bed? I'm fucking an hour and a half away. I mean, I had to get up two hours, you know, before, because everyone doesn't live at the same spots.
You know what I'm saying? So, like, what we gonna do? Give me the motherfucking ball. That same night, he had 50, and we won.
Yeah. You know, I think we were 21-9 the first 30 games, like the best record since 2004 with Allen Iverson when I was with Philly.
So it's just surprising to see, especially because all the hard work that Nick Nurse and his coaches have put in, it's to see. An hour and a half is a long way to have to travel.
Brandon Walker does. Before a 9 o'clock film, which means you got to get up at 7.
And I'm saying, I ain't saying that. You know, obviously, like, we have different jobs.
Every motherfucker is getting up at 6 o'clock in the morning, so everyone's different. But, you know, if you were to start, I don't have a problem with it.
And I'm the road and i'm the like the the the you know the temperature of the locker room you feel me like i know you're not doing it to be ultimately disrespectful i know you don't show up to games late you know i know you don't show up to practice this late like you know but if you got at nine o'clock in the morning shoot around and you gotta get up you know two hours before i you know i don't think that's fair also. So it's just different strokes, different folks.

And Tyrese is someone –

But if that was B-ball Paul, it wouldn't be – no, that's not even a conversation.

That's not a – you can't even be fucking late.

Right.

You can't be late.

Right.

But it comes with the status also.

Is there such a thing as too many player-only meetings?

No, I think we need to have more, no? This wasn't a player-only meeting. Fact check.
It says coaches were also involved in the meeting. Oh, coaches were there.
So he called him out in front of his coaches. You were giving false information.
I asked a question about players-only meetings. I actually wasn't giving false.
But it was in context. No, but I wasn't giving false information because I said, is there such thing as too many players-only meetings?

That's a fair question, right?

Players also asked the coaches to be coached harder.

Oh, okay.

So it also says that he was late to all team activities and everything,

also implying that Joel Embiid was late to players-only meetings.

That's part of everything.

Yeah, he would have been.

Yeah, but I don't think it was a players-only meeting that early,

before it ended anyway.

What's the earliest players-only meeting that you've had? It sounded like this one. Yeah, but it wasn't.
Max is saying it wasn't. When a players only meeting, is there too many though? Can you have too many? Because we see it every now and then where it's like they've had their third players only meeting in the last month.
That feels like too many. Yeah, but see you got to understand what goes on.
Like a player only meetingfucker get in there. Hey, so what the fuck going on? What we going to do? It's not really formal.
Did you kick out the coaches? Did you say, coaches, get out of here? Yes. I like that part.
Right, like, yes, y'all get the fuck out. Let's talk straight up.
Or you bring a coach in who's like the player's coach who's cool. That can kind of give you information of what the coach's style is, but also can take like this is the players thought also play in the middle yeah to kind of mesh it together because because you don't want to be in there having a meeting the whole time you get out of meeting you're like oh man that's you know yeah coaches they don't know same a whole different page than we on like okay cool let's all get organized we get a new plan we got this going on man you feel me like i feel like i i feel? I feel like I'm shooting the ball a lot.

I feel like I can get better shots.

What can I do to make a team better?

What can I do to help you?

What can I do to help you?

And then I go, like, okay, cool.

Fuck all that.

Let's just talk about roles.

You tell me your role.

I tell you my role.

And we just go all the way down.

And then you'll hear some people roles.

And then you'll be like, okay, y'all agree with that? And some guys will be like, no, I don't think that's your role. But that helps you though.
Right. Right? That helps you.
Okay, cool. In my mind, I thought my role was screen, screen, screen, roll, roll, roll the whole time.
This guy wants, the star player wants my role to pop and shoot all the time. Right.
I might have thought my role was to shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot. No, my role is not to shoot.
My role is to offensive rebound, block shots, and take charges. I might think my role is, okay, cool, I'm the leader of this team.
No, no, no, no, no. You're the energy guy of this team.
You're the guy to make sure we have energy. So getting roles with your players, with those guys first, kind of like, okay, cool.
It gets you a different perspective. And I think that helps more than anything.
It gives you clarity. Like what you actually should be doing to make the rest of the team better based on what they want from you.
Yeah, and then you'll say shit like, hey, bro, yeah, okay, I feel that. I feel that their role is to score, but you want to score that bitch like that, you got to show us you're a pro too, bro.
You got to be on time. Yeah.
Right? Like everybody got shit to do yeah right i remember one time i think why

i walked in late right and there's very few times but kawai kind of walked in late but i think something happened he walked in late he was standing in san diego i don't know helicopter was late type shit right i go i go quite like hey um i know shit happened but we all got shit to do right we all pros we all millionaires

shit most of all

us got kids like I understand like we sitting here waiting on you that's not 30 minutes at the end of practice that I could be on my way home to my son or some shit right like I ain't telling you what to do just respect the grind right you tell a motherfucker that straight up motherfucker got to do what to respect it like man you know what, man, you know what? You're right, bro. I can be better.
And that helps you too. Yeah, I can be fucking better.
All right? You know, so like I think any type of meeting, any type of, you know, any type of discussion about, I don't know, getting better, I think that's always perfect medicine. Who is the best player in the NBA right now? Jokic.
Yeah, that was the correct answer. All right, you still ball.
Good job. He is.
Jokic. It seems like he'd be fun to play with too.
Yeah. He just spreads it everywhere, makes everyone better.
Plays the right way. Plays the right way.
Every time he has the ball, it's like the gravity towards him just gets everyone open. It's nuts watching him play.
I had a... I don't know think this is the bubble year 2020 out we about to play denver and i'm watching him work out and it's one of the denver coaches i don't even know his fucking name assistant guy i go uh it's two things that make him great i go to the coach what do you think it is and the options in my head was his passing ability or his feel for the ball right you know a coach goes a coach that's probably never played NBA basketball goes oh the way he can pass it yeah that's a lot of motherfuckers that can pass though and I honestly think it's his feeling for the ball right I know a ton of motherfuckers that can pass.
But a one-second pass is worse than a .3 pass. Get it literally in your hand, out your hand to the next guy.
The defense can't even rotate. Then getting it, same pass, but defense is contesting the shot.
His feel for the game, his feel for the ball, I think is one of his best attributes. It's like the difference in football of like throwing someone open where it's like you're throwing the ball before they're open and they get open as the ball gets there.
Yoke is just doing that where he knows it where every it's almost like he's playing chess on the court where it's like I know where this guy's about to cut to the ball will be there. Look here pass here look here pass here.
Because you can't defend against that. You can't.
And he's so tall and a rather large, man, that it makes it very difficult. Yeah.
I love it when he puts the ball above his head. It's like he's going towards the ball above his head, and then he just throws it backwards.
Yeah. But it's like one of the fastest passes that you've ever seen.
And whips it backwards. It's where he shoots also.

So you have to not only,

what did you do with the ball up there?

He might shoot this motherfucker.

So he gives you a triple threat.

Usually you're taught triple threat.

You talk the ball down here.

You ha-ha jab, ha-ha-ha triple threat.

He's giving you triple threat here where he can pass

and he can shoot.

So it's even more deadly.

And who do you know defends? What big man you know that can defend up here yeah eyes up here boom one one dribble he's gone yeah so yeah so he's really good you mentioned something earlier i wanted to talk about uh your your pregame nap yeah so it sounds like that's something that you take you take serious very serious yeah so what's your nap schedule before so i go so so everything is different for me i don't talk a lot right i'm all about preserving energy right so i don't i don't talk a lot right i don't really break a lot of huddles game day i don't really speak a lot i'm just preserving a lot of energy so i wake up obviously shower um a little cold for just to wake me up go hot after that go to shoot around you know um i want to sweat but i but I don't want, like, a drippy sweat. I want a nice lather.
Not a drippy sweat. I like that.
You feel me? I don't want a drippy sweat. I know exactly.
I'm missed. Right, right, right.
I want to just be able to rub and just be okay, cool. I don't want to rub and have to, like, damn, this shit's getting in my eye.
Yeah. You know, so I'm just, as soon as I get there, I'm cool.
I'm 36, so I know my body. Like, as soon as I get there, I'm cool.

I don't eat breakfast.

I only eat once a day.

My meal that I eat every single day for, I don't know, the last nine years has been any type of mixed pasta, cream, and tomato sauce with any type of protein.

Chicken, fish, steak, right?

I eat, I don't know, I feast, eat a big-ass bowl of that shit.

Whatever I'm watching on TV, now it's the diplomats mixed with a little sopranos I pick off where I left off not on the TV because I can't watch them on TV it has to be my phone because when I go to sleep I you know my phone goes to sleep it turns off on its own I don't have to hear shit that might wake me up of a gunshot or just watching the soprano so i can't watch it on tv only has to be my phone so okay i'm cool i'm watching it cool cool i go to sleep i let my body do what it does if it sleeps for three hours sleep for three hours if it's tossing a turn and tossing turn you don't set an alarm no my body kind of does the same thing every time okay that's a good nap three hours is a that's significant so i go i go i come home i While I'm eating, I'm taking my mind off basketball, so I'm playing, I don't know, Call of Duty. I'm in fucking war right now.
I'm a soldier, right? Right, right, right, pregame, I'm a soldier. I don't know, 1.30 hit.
I probably have to be at the gym at 5.30, 5 o'clock. 1.30 hit, I'm making my way to my bed slowly.
Okay, cool, I'm turning off the lights. I'm pissing to make sure I don't have to get up for anything.
And after that, I just kind of let my body do what it does. If it's sleep for two hours, it's sleep for two hours.
If it's an hour here, 30 minutes here, 20 minutes here, I kind of let it do its thing. Have you ever overslept by accident? No.
Okay. So the internal alarm clock wakes you up.
And I'm a big iron. I iron before every game.
You iron? Myself. I love ironing.
I found that out, I don't know, three years ago. You just love ironing? I literally was ironing this today.
It is actually a therapeutic thing when you get the whole ironing board out. The whole ironing board, every hotel, I have to have it.
I didn't know I did it until three years. Until someone on the phone was like, there you go ironing again.
I'm like, ironing again? What do you mean? I thought about it i'm literally ironing every fucking day do you iron shit that you're not gonna wear that day no uh-uh just what you're gonna wear on the walk into the gym yeah that's awesome then you take your nap you think a lot of players take naps um a lot of people do but then i i heard the older did you get guys start like talk wing and shit so i think steph curry does like golf before you know just to take his mind off he got think he go shoot some holes and go from there right to the gym type shit some guys have to have naps you know like half that they don't have naps is you know you don't play well some guys don't sleep you ever dream about the game um not game but like opponent but it'd be crazy you're doing film doing film study. Yeah, but it won't even be like, it'd be like a guy like my fucking Shabazz Napier or some shit.
Raul Neto or some shit. Like man, I can't let him get off.
I can't let him. Like it ain't even about like Russ Dame or like, it's always like, oh, it's okay.
Fuck it, man. it man payton preacher i can't let him get off type shit you know i'm saying so that's that's how it is if it's if it is a dream i love that they're going into the game and they have no idea that pat bev's been literally dreaming about shutting them down and it's literally the same way while i'm in europe also it's a guy that i'm like could you guys just give me numbers because i know i don't know names right you know i I'm saying like I know all NBA names just give me numbers what does number 6 do what does number 95 do what does number 54 do and they have wild numbers I don't know why they're number 77 and shit like that but it's like that overseas where it's just like okay I just need to refer to people by numbers because I don't know names yeah alright Pat I got one last question rowback question are you guys coming to Tel Aviv? Probably not.
Okay. Rowback question.
Is that within five hours? No, within, I don't know, five years. No, but I mean like how long does it take to get there? Tel Aviv? Yeah.
From? From Chicago. So I got to go here, New York, which is two and a half.
Yeah. Three, two.
Two. Four when you talk about like getting to the airport.
Type shit, right. Then I go 12 hours straight flight.
Probably not. Nope.
Probably not going to do that. All right, rollback question.
Good luck. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah.
We'll be rooting for you. I'm talking about the Israeli culture and community loves me to death.
Yeah, we're rooting for you. I have people that walk up to me in airport like, thank you for all you're doing for Israel.
In my mind, I'm like, I'm just speaking on what I experience. Yeah, yeah.
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Did you see Hank on the float with Joe Mazzulla? He went on the parade. He went on the parade.
He was on the duck boat. You said Hank? Yeah, Hank, right there, sitting right there.
Producer, pardon my take. Future dunker.
One of our best friends, known him for almost half his life. No.
Hank was on the float with Joe Missoula. Greatest day of my life.
Yeah, greatest day of his life. I ask that because, hypothetically, if you were to ever win a title.
Roan is there 100%. Oh, no, I was going to ask for Hank.
No, it was going to be Roan. Would Roan be on the float or wherever with you? Roan's in my wedding.
Okay, great. So I just want to make sure, because I love Rone too, I wanted to make sure he will be able to live the day like Hank lived.

That's my nigga, Rone.

Okay.

Like, you guys have no idea.

You guys probably haven't an idea.

Yeah, we haven't an idea.

You stole him from us. Rone's the man.

He's the best.

He's actually phenomenal.

A phenomenal person first.

A phenomenal husband second.

And he's insanely talented.

I've been around a ton of guys where it's either either or they're really good and they're a shitty husband it's very rare that you get both phenomenal guy in both of those aspects talent wise it's something that gives me jim carrey vibes yeah he can do anything do you know what it is anything it. It's also how effortless it is.
Yeah. Not forced.

Because I feel like I have to work really hard to be entertaining.

He feels like you could throw him.

I always said this about Rone, too.

You can throw him in any setting.

Any situation.

Any setting.

Any person.

I agree.

And he'll have a conversation that you want to listen to.

President of the United States suited up.

Rone going to be there.

Yeah.

Black dude in the hood.

Rone going to be there.

Yeah.

A Mexican don't even know how to speak English. Yep.
Como te amo suited up, Ron gonna be there. Yeah.
Black dude in the hood, Ron gonna be there. Yeah.
A Mexican don't even know how to speak English, yep.

Come on, te amo. Ron gonna be there.

It's wild. It's crazy.

Put him on football, he gonna be there. Put him on basketball,

he gonna be there. Yeah.
Son of a boy dad

on fucking couch with his legs crossed, he gonna be there.

Fucking Pat Bill Pye with Ron.

Yeah, we talking about gangster shit

and who fucking better, white guys or black guys,

Ron gonna be there. He's absolutely phenomenal.
So he'll be on that parade. What was the answer to that question? Who's better, white guys or black guys? Remember Cooper Flagg? Jokic.
I think that's a difference. European is very different.
Why? You're white. I know, but European outranks both white and black.
A woman who gets a European, she thinks she's won. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, you get a last name with an itch or some Italian name.
Yeah, I think that woman for sure thinks she won. 100%.
Yeah, they are different. I mean, that whole region with Luka, Jokic.
Mind you, it's, I don't know, seven, eight countries. Mind you, if it was just Yugoslavia still.
It was, yeah. Mind you.
They would be dominating everything. It would be people who won't make the team.
I know. Yeah, who are super talented.
That's why they subdivided. Yeah.
Because they had too much talent. They were bad for basketball.
Yeah. Or like UConn women's hoop.
They had to break it up. Crazy smoke.
All right, Pat, everyone go subscribe to the Pat Bev pod. Please, we're all.
He's the best. Good luck for the rest of the season.
Maybe, hopefully, we'll see you back in the NBA at some point. We'll see Bev pod.
Please. He's the best.
Good luck for us this season.

Maybe,

hopefully,

we'll see you back in the NBA

at some point.

We'll see.

Yeah.

All right.

Thanks, Pat.

Love, guy.

Thanks, man.

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Okay, let's wrap up. We got Pardon Your Take.
Henry. Yeah, we do.
Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do.
Aaron Rodgers is dismantling the Jets organization in retaliation against the COVID vaccine. This is all Aaron Rodgers planned to get back at Big Farmer by destroying Woody Johnson's team from the ground up, sticking to the man and destroying the franchise.
Yeah, Woody Johnson, he did the one-shot thing. Aaron Rodgers gets traded to them, tanks their value.
I got a question for you guys. Did you know that there's boosters for COVID? I did know that.
I didn't. Stop it.
Yeah, you knew that. I got one shot four years ago, and that's it.

You didn't know that they release shots every six months?

That's the whole Stephen Chase job. I knew Stephen Say had shots.

I thought there was a new...

I didn't know it was the flu shot now.

I thought it was a whole new brand.

I didn't know it was seasonal boosters.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

Travis Kelsey, John Legend, they're talking about getting the new...

I thought that was a whole new shot.

Yeah, it kind of is.

I'm't. Have you guys got any boosters? Fuck no.
I got one, I think, six months after the first one came came out i got one because you had to get the card to like live i got that one the johnson johnson one was like the weakest one it was the one shot there was no follow-up that was like four years ago i didn't know that people were doing every single like season they were like i think uh i think old people yeah i think it's good for old people. And Stephen Chase.
And Stephen Chase. Yeah.
I'm also wondering, the person who does these, pardon your takes, is memes. I'm wondering if they're all going to be Jets, pardon your takes.
Oh, that would be a nice wrinkle. That would be nice.
Wait, memes, was that your idea? That Aaron Rodgers tanked the Jets because he hates Woody Johnson? No, somebody wrote that in. Okay.
What are your thoughts about that? It's believable. It is.
I'm dead. Yeah.
I guess I'm just an idiot because I thought I didn't realize boosters. I don't know what I thought.
I thought it was just a whole new brand new vaccine, but I guess that makes no sense. Yeah.
I'm dumb. If you were to ask Aaron Rodgers if he tanked the Jets because of Woody Johnson, what do you think is the answer? Yes.
I think so. Yeah think so yeah for sure pardon your take but if your team's biggest rival doesn't consider you to be their biggest rival you are little brother yeah example if you ask a michigan state fan who the biggest rival is in michigan no question if you ask anyone in michigan they're going to unequivocally respond that osu is enemy number one this exists in all sports everywhere sixers fans hate the celtics The Celtics have a historical rivalry with the Lakers.
Verbal meme, mad men, I don't think about you at all. Yeah, no, this is all facts.
And it sucks being that little brother. Yeah.
Hank, have you tweeted about the Sixers at all today? Yeah. So you do think about that? So you do think about that? Well, it's because Hank hosts a national sports podcast, so it's his job.
And sometimes a regional. I was reading the fucking question, dude.
Those weren't my words. I was quoting the person writing it.
That's big time little brother energy to give it off, Max. That's fair.
I was quoting. I was reading the question.
That was not me saying that. Who's the saddest one? I think about you guys all the time and laugh.
When I need to get a smile on my face or when I need to just get a quick boost of serotonin, just think about the Sixers. The saddest little brother? NC State, that sucks.
Yeah. Because you got Duke and UNC just duking it out, and they're like, hey, we don't like UNC.
We don't like Duke. Wake Forest is kind of in that spot.
Yeah, but I don't think that they're even farther away. They wouldn't consider themselves to be little brother to anybody.
To back a road, though. Michigan State's a high one.
I would agree with that that yeah michigan state's a big one um commanders yeah anyone commanders dallas yeah anyone who anyone who thinks they're a rival with notre dame like notre dame has a million rivals purdue would probably be like yeah yeah notre dame's our big rival yeah like the only ones i really think for notre dame is like usc and i don't play it anymore, but Michigan and Notre Dame was real. I feel like Tennessee has a bunch that they don't have anyone that says Tennessee.
Well, Tennessee has Alabama. Alabama, that's a little brother move by Tennessee.
I feel like there's a few with Tennessee where no one says Tennessee's their main rival, but they have like three. I think Kentucky would probably say that Tennessee's biggest rival, right? Yeah, and then Tennessee, little brother's Vanderbilt.
But yeah, that's a good one. Tennessee, Alabama, and Alabama is like, no, it's Auburn and it's kind of LSU too.
I would say the Mets are probably up there too. For who? Yankees.
Yeah. Yeah.
Wait, did you say Kentucky and Tennessee? I think that... Kentucky has Louisville.
Yeah, me and said Kentucky has Louisville. Yeah, Kentucky has Louisville.
That's their big rival. What about football, though? Also Louisville.
You think that they care more about it, even though they're not in conference? Definitely. They play every year, yeah.
What a little slander on a friend of the show here. What? But Memes sends questions.
I'll read them. Okay.
It's a hot one. When J.J.
Watt retired, people were having discussions about him being a first ballot Hall of Famer, which is absolute nonsense. Okay.
He's not even on the top 20 for career sacks. Meanwhile, Jared Allen is number 12 on that list and has still not gotten in.
I'm honestly not sure if Watt should ever be a Hall of Famer. Just thought someone should bring awareness to this issue.
Okay. So I love the take.
Yeah. Listen, it's a fair...
This is part of your take. You bring the spiciest takes.
I would say that J.J. Watts...
How many Defensive Player of the Year awards does he have? He won... Two? Two in...
Three in four years. Three in four years, and he probably should have had an MVP somewhere in there.
So J.J. Watt from 2012 to 2014 was probably the best one of, if not the best defensive players.
Probably Lawrence Taylor is obviously number one. But I mean, Aaron Foster was the best offensive player for a few years.
He should be in the Hall of Fame, too. I agree.
So he had 20 and a half sacks, 10 and a half sacks, 20 and a half sacks, 17 and a half sacks in those four years. That's an insane, insane clip.
67.5 sacks, 10.5 sacks, 20.5 sacks, 17.5 sacks in those four years. That's an insane, insane clip.
67.5 sacks or 68 sacks in four years. This guy's an idiot.
And he was dominant, and he was scoring offensive touchouts too. Yeah, JJ, if you look at the other guys that are eligible for the Hall of Fame, I will give you Jared Allen probably should be in the Hall of Fame.
He should, but I think the Hall of Fame, obviously you can go off career, but it's the Terrell Davis thing. His career wasn't super long, but the three- or four-year stretch where he was just so much better than everyone else.
Jared Allen, he did not win a Defensive Player of the Year, so you could never say he was by far the best defender.

I do think Jared Allen should be in the Hall of Fame,

but he did have 22 sacks in 2011.

But, yeah, I mean, he had a nice four-year stretch as well,

five-year stretch.

Jared Allen should be in the Hall of Fame.

Yeah.

That doesn't mean J.J. Watt shouldn't be.

Yeah, so J.J. Watt was so dominant in a relatively short career.

It's not like he only played a couple years and burned out. He had a good career.

But he was also so good in that short time period

that he ended up putting up all-time numbers in a lot of categories.

And he was double-teamed constantly. He was injured for four of his 12 years.
So he pretty much played eight years. Jared Allen played 12 years.
He was injured. He played more than 14 games pretty much every single year that he was in the NFL.
So he played more games. I think he got to go by games as well.

187 to 151.

I don't know.

Now I got to crunch the number sacks per game.

Because if J.J. Watt is in a first ballot Hall of Famer, then I honestly would have no idea who a first ballot Hall of Famer would be.

And we all agree that Jared Allen should be in the Hall of Fame.

So don't take it away from J.J. just because you want Jared Allen in.
All right, I'm doing the stats real quick. You ready for this? Sacks per game? Yeah.
I'm doing it. JJ Watt, remember this number.
Wait, is that right? No. Remember this number.
Fuck, I can't do math. Aaron Foster would be in the Hall of Fame if he wasn't an atheist.
I want to say that for the record. 0.75 sacks per game.
That's a science book. Yeah, the science book that made him retire.
0.75 sacks per game for J.J. Watt.
I'm not saying that he's being discriminated. I'm saying that he made a bad move by being like, hey, guys, I'm an atheist.
0.72 sacks per game for Jared Allen. Jared Allen was really, really good.

So J.J. Watt had 0.03 more sacks per game.

Yeah.

Got it.

I'm happy we did that number.

Also, not to get too granular with it, but he played on some bad Texans teams.

He did.

That weren't exactly having to pin their ears back and rush the the passer in the second half of a lot of games.

Why don't we just flip this into a positive?

We'll just become a Jared Allen should be in the Hall of Fame podcast.

Yeah.

He should.

I made one of the least sold shirts I've ever made

in my entire Barstool career.

I made a shirt that said Wine Em, Dine Em, 69 Em.

I thought he was the finishing piece for the Bears.

Second year at Trestman. Jared Allen, he's going to do this.
Holy shit. He's going to be awesome.
Also, people didn't really want to wear a shirt that said, why don't Dynam 69 him? The fact that he bounced around so much is not good for his Hall of Fame case either. Yeah.
I mean, I think obviously Vikings is the first jersey you come up with, but Chiefs, Vikings, and then at the end of his career. Yep.
All right. While most people watch my Cowboys get dismantled like a cheap tent on Monday Night Football, all I can think about is how our beloved owner, Mr.
Jerry Jones, actively attempted to murder multiple people with a piece of sheet metal. Under section 15.01 of the Texas Penal Code.
I like this. Attempted murder carries a charge of up to 10 years in prison.
It's time we stop letting the elites off the hook and hold them accountable for their actions. If you guys could get Mike Portnoy, Esquire, to begin proceedings, that would be greatly appreciated.
Class action. I mean, he got Mike Tyson, who couldn't even stand up illegally commissioned in Texas.
This guy's untouchable. He's tried to kill multiple people.
He took the top off in mid-November he could kill somebody's going to die no yeah he would not go to prison he would yeah or he would build his own prison like pablo escobar and be like just send me here yeah it would just be jerry yeah yeah but live in the stadium yeah that is that is the dream though to get like barely injured by a falling piece of metal in Jerry Jones Stadium. Oh, my God.

Just a scratch?

You'd never see me again.

I would be a billionaire.

It'd be awesome.

Or you'd just get Cowboys tickets.

That would suck.

Yeah.

No, that'd be...

Then I'd sue him again.

Yeah.

Did you guys see the Paul Skeen's giveaway?

There's giving away a card, and if you get it, it's a rookie Paul Skeen's card, and if

you get it, you get 30 years of Pir of pirates season tickets two seats behind home plate okay it's an interesting giveaway you guys in it seems like a burden it's a lot of years it's a lot of years for pirate season tickets can you resell them i don't know i would hope so here's. Here's what you get.
You get two Pirate season tickets behind home plate for the next 30 years. Meet and greet with Paul Skeens.
Two Paul Skeens autographed jerseys. Softball game for 30 at PNC Park.
That's awesome. That is the sickest.
Wait, someone did it? Someone got it? I don't know. I think the Pirates are looking for whoever pulls this card.
Oh, they're trying to buy it? The card is already out, but the Pirates are trying to get that card. So the Pirates are trying to get that card so they can sell it in four years so they can pay Paul Skeens.
Yeah, and Livvy Dunn also offered

they could watch a game in the suite with her.

That's one of the...

In her box?

Yep, in the box.

Livvy Dunn offered admittance to her box.

I didn't say it.

Okay.

Good show, boys.

Good show.

Let's do numbers.

Three.

Eleven.

Memes. You're never going to get it, numbers.
Three. Eleven.
Memes.

You're never going to get it, Memes.

Thirty-six.

Fifty-six.

Seventy-seven.

Ninety-nine, Pug.

Thirty-three.

Jack.

Twenty-one.

Everyone go?

I think Jack's at thirty-three.

What was your pick, Memes?

Fifty-six.

You've never gotten it.

Nope.

What was your pick, PFT?

Seventy-seven.

You also have never gotten it.

Thank you. Everyone go? I think Jack's at 33.
What was your pick, Memes? 56. You've never gotten it.

Nope.

What was your pick, BFT?

77.

You also have never gotten it.

Oh, that's what, yeah, Memes picked last time.

I'm trailing them.

95.

95.

Love you guys. Thank you.
Thank you.