Pat Bev In Studio, The Cowboys Are Deader Than Dead, College Football Talk + The Jets Have Reached The Bottom

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Pat Bev, Patrick Beverly, in studio. Talking some ball with him.
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Speaker 1 A little break in the action. Talk some ball with him.
Talk Joel and Bede.

Speaker 1 Maybe Trouble in Paradise in Philadelphia. We got Hot Hot Sea, Cool Throne,

Speaker 1 College Football Rankings. We have two weeks and then Conference Championship Week left in the season.
We're getting down to it.

Speaker 3 Big time

Speaker 1 debates going on. We're going to talk Monday Night Football.
The Cowboys are dead.

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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, November 20th, and the Dallas Cowboys are deader than dead. It was already dead, but now it's really, really really dead, and they're pathetic, and they shouldn't be on TV.

Speaker 1 But, oh, wait, we still have them on Monday Night Football that they can't flex because there's a Simpsons broadcast.

Speaker 3 And also because it's the Cowboys. I think that's a convenient excuse because I don't think that they would ever flex the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 Because what you could get with any Dallas game is exactly what you got last night, which is chaos, the building falling apart in Dallas before the game. And it still got 17 million viewers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I mean, that's Monday Night Football, too. Yeah,

Speaker 3 but also primetime games, Monday Night Football, Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 1 I'm good with not having to watch the Cowboys anymore. They're really bad.
Listen. They're not even fun bad.

Speaker 3 I am, too. But guess what? People in general are going to watch the Dallas Cowboys if they're on primetime.
That's the thing about them. And it sucks.

Speaker 3 But the Simpsons broadcast, that'll be fun to see the team just completely implode.

Speaker 3 I hope that Mike McCarthy is either Chief Wiggum. That'd be the perfect fit as Chief Wiggum or maybe just Smithers on the sideline.
And Mr. Burns needs to be Jerry Jones.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm going to have to watch that broadcast broadcast because it's going to suck having to watch the Cowboys again. It's just not fun.
Cooper Rush, not fun.

Speaker 3 Why don't they start Trey Lance?

Speaker 1 He's probably not good.

Speaker 3 But he's not Cooper Rush.

Speaker 1 Right, but he's probably not good.

Speaker 3 But why not at this point?

Speaker 1 I think you ought to be at least like, there's a level of competency that maybe he hasn't achieved.

Speaker 3 I guess, but I mean, you traded a draft pick for him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what was it, like a seventh rounder?

Speaker 3 No, I think it's higher than that. Was it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Stupid.

Speaker 3 I don't think that's that uncommon of a take to say that they should just try to start Trey Lance.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm sure they will at some point. It was a fourth rounder.

Speaker 1 I'm sure they will at some point. I just, I would assume he's,

Speaker 1 there's got to be a reason he's not playing.

Speaker 3 You know what the saddest part is?

Speaker 1 Like, I think they will now, maybe, because they're so bad and it's over, but I think they, this was the last moment where they're like, hey, maybe we'll win a game and change it around.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's not there.

Speaker 3 You know what the saddest part to me is watching Cooper Rush play quarterback for this team when he does the here we go that Dak does.

Speaker 1 The Dak.

Speaker 3 He needs to come up with his own cadence. Yeah.
Don't just try to do like a cover of Dak Prescott's already annoying. Here we go.

Speaker 1 It's very, very bad. Yeah, the Cowboys are very, very bad.
Jerry's very, very bad.

Speaker 1 I feel like the fans have fully turned on him. He's like in late stage, like dementia, like weird.
Like he's, you know, he's given these press conferences after.

Speaker 1 He's like, I've been here for bad teams and, you know, bad years happen. It's like, yeah, we get it, but

Speaker 1 this team sucks and you had no contingent. And

Speaker 1 it's getting hidden by the fact that Dak Prescott got hurt.

Speaker 1 they sucked before that oh well before yeah yeah their defense stinks this isn't just that dak prescott got hurt our year went to shit it was bad before that yeah it was already bad your your running back your play at the running back position from week one was awful yeah they just yeah the bad team and the texans get a little right get a little mojo going right with just never trailing in that game just whooping up on him that's got to feel good that first play should have counted yeah i know it was such a good first play too it also was just classic for laramie tunsell they probably practiced that play all week, and then he was like, he just didn't do it right.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It's the king of penalties.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Texans, like,

Speaker 1 I don't really know where. I think the Texans are still in that second tier in the AFC where they could maybe win a playoff game.
I just don't know.

Speaker 1 I feel like they just don't have enough against a Bills, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Chargers.

Speaker 5 Chargers. Like, what you just described is the Chargers, second tier.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 1 You didn't let me finish. Thanks for waking up, Hank.
You didn't let me finish. I was going to say Chargers.

Speaker 3 Hank might be.

Speaker 5 8 o'clock at night.

Speaker 1 Hank might be a good job. I was going to say,

Speaker 3 he might put a juicy little future on the Chargers. That'd be a sharp bet.

Speaker 3 That'd be a sharp bet.

Speaker 1 You're going to be so mad if the Chargers win a playoff game. No.
Yeah, you will. Yeah, you will.
You'll get a little bit upset. No.

Speaker 5 Zero fear.

Speaker 3 Okay, so if you're the Cowboys, one thing I didn't understand last night, your season's over, right?

Speaker 3 You're not going to win anything. You've long since given up on that.
Why not just let Brandon Aubrey have that 64-yard field?

Speaker 1 Dude, he barely even kicked it.

Speaker 3 It looked like a practice kick.

Speaker 1 It was nuts.

Speaker 3 I understand the idea that, okay, they called a penalty, which, by the way.

Speaker 1 No, no, never take points off the board.

Speaker 3 Never take points off the board.

Speaker 1 You learned that a long time ago.

Speaker 3 Yeah, coach, no, you don't want to take three points. You never know what could happen.
Yeah, but you got your drive extended, so you're trying to score a touchdown.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 3 as a Bears fan, did that piss you off that they called a slap to the head, which hasn't been called in decades?

Speaker 1 No, listen, Mattie Reflew says, he already called

Speaker 3 running over the center's face.

Speaker 1 He's sent it into the league. I'm sure it will fix everything.
I don't like you, Hank. I'm stuck on the Chargers thing.
By the way, You just named five AFC teams and you didn't name the Chargers.

Speaker 5 But hold on.

Speaker 1 The way you described the technology.

Speaker 1 It was the perfect description of the Chargers.

Speaker 1 They might win a playoff team.

Speaker 5 Hold on. They're not beating the Charles.

Speaker 1 What was the original bet, though? I said that

Speaker 1 now I obviously believe in them fully, but the original bet that we all put in together was, I don't think the Chargers are going to win the Super Bowl, but they are at 45 to 1, insane odds, because they're a playoff team and

Speaker 1 they could basically beat anyone in a one-game elimination setup.

Speaker 5 And then I've been telling you, like, you're going to cash out right here.

Speaker 1 So then we agree.

Speaker 5 We agree to disagree. No.
Jay Billis.

Speaker 1 No. Jay Billis agreed to disagree.
Disengaging. You're disagreeing with yourself.
No, you're just being disengaged. You're disagreeing with your past self.
That's true.

Speaker 1 But that happens all the time.

Speaker 5 You're taking out on me.

Speaker 1 No, I feel like

Speaker 3 you're arguing with a ghost right now. You're arguing with someone who

Speaker 1 doesn't exist anymore. Big Cat's correct logic.
That was old Big Cat. Big Cat's incorrect logic is arguing with his correct self.

Speaker 1 I'm taking out on you because

Speaker 1 I feel like the Chargers are basically the only thing you care about now. No, because you were trolling me before, and like, I think it's giving you life.
So, actually, you should.

Speaker 1 No, we talked about it.

Speaker 5 We did talk about it on the show. It's like when you cash out of a future, you're not going to root for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're rooting against it, but you should thank me for giving you life. You have purpose.
I mean, that's you have purpose.

Speaker 3 This is an abusive relationship right here.

Speaker 3 Front row tickets to gaslighting.

Speaker 1 Well, he reverse gaslit me. No.
There we go. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, let's keep going.

Speaker 5 Me reverse lighting, gaslighting you is just you saying things that you said previously.

Speaker 1 Sorry. You know what? I want to talk to Max and Max only.
Sorry that

Speaker 1 I came up with a bet that all the boys could ride on and we could have fun and root for it together and then half of the boys cashed out. Sorry.
Sorry I was rooting for that. I'm still in.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Max. I thought it would be fun.
No, no, you didn't let him toy the butt.

Speaker 1 No, my butt was going to be that before the show, we were all silent, and then Hank just whispers into the mic, he goes,

Speaker 3 Charger's a pretty good field.

Speaker 1 Yes, see, he's trolling me.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's no one was talking, and Hank just was like, He's trolling me. I think the Chargers.
Can you at least admit that, PFT? I know you're taking Hank's side, but he's trolling me.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, no shit. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he is, but I can't do that. He's a great one who's trolling me.
Sorry that I did something that we all could do together, and then

Speaker 1 like.

Speaker 1 Listen, I know I got Max. Max will always have my back.

Speaker 3 Everyone else just bailed on me. Listen, I have not had a good gambling season, and responsibly I cashed out of it.
Jerry got way madder than you about the cash out.

Speaker 3 Jerry approached me one-on-one, pulled me aside, and had a sit-down with me about why I would cash out on his Steelers. And I didn't have a good answer for him.
No, I'm not mad.

Speaker 1 I just liked it. It was fun to do it as a crew.
It was fun to do it as a crew. Travis Hunter's been fun for us.
It was fun to do it as a crew. And then I found out just

Speaker 1 we don't do it as a crew. I like friendship.
But you cash out of Travis Hunter, too?

Speaker 3 No, no. Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Diamond Heads. Because I can't.
They literally won't give it one. If there was, they would have.

Speaker 3 I'd be lying if I said I didn't check DraftKings three times a day to see if they've given me an option to cash out on Travis Hunter or an option

Speaker 3 to cash out on Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 Yes, the two of us will do friend bets together. Okay.
Love it. We'll ride.
Love it. We'll ride.

Speaker 5 Can you cash out or no?

Speaker 1 Yeah, if we talk about it. We did say if he says, hey, remember how we talked about this? I'm going to cash out.
I'd be like, yeah, you guys cash out for a loss.

Speaker 1 The whole point was to cash out for a win. I don't know if I did.
Yes, you did. You 100% did.
There's no chance. No chance.

Speaker 1 No chance.

Speaker 3 So, Cowboys Texans, the Texans.

Speaker 1 I don't even care about this game anymore.

Speaker 1 I mean, that game sucks.

Speaker 3 You're not even pretending about it. I just want to say that the Texans,

Speaker 3 you said that they're in that second tier with the Chargers.

Speaker 1 The Chargers in the first tier.

Speaker 3 The Chargers in the first tier.

Speaker 3 I think the Texans are exactly the same type of team that they were last year. The difference is that C.J.

Speaker 3 Stroud's in his second season, I think everybody expected them to be in that top tier of the AFC. And because they're just a very good team, we're like kind of silently disappointed in them.

Speaker 1 Well, their offensive line is not great,

Speaker 1 and they've obviously had some injuries. It's good that Nico's back because he's awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think, yeah, I do think that we just expected C.J. Shroud to go into infinity.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, that was his rookie year. He'll just be the best quarterback of all time.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 we expected him to be better than Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 He's just what he is, which is a good quarterback.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think he's a very good quarterback.

Speaker 1 He's had an up-and-down year. There's been some not great games.

Speaker 3 They They haven't really blown anybody.

Speaker 1 Have they blown anybody out?

Speaker 3 I just remember the Texans

Speaker 3 being in a shitload of close games, especially against teams that they should have blown out.

Speaker 1 No, they have not really blown anyone out.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Oh, they blew out the Patriots 41-21. What did you just do, Hank?

Speaker 1 You're right. It was for a loss.
Yeah. The whole point was to do it for a win.

Speaker 3 I got even money. Max,

Speaker 3 no chance.

Speaker 1 Sure? Yeah.

Speaker 3 I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1 I'll look it up.

Speaker 5 Highly doubt that. I'm pretty sure it's the same exact odds, though.

Speaker 1 If I think you and I will talk, we'll have a strategy, the two of us. Just boys.

Speaker 1 I'm not cashing out. No, but if we do a money, we'll do it together.
We'll do it together. We'll turn the key together.
Yep. It'll be a great experience.

Speaker 3 I don't want to look through this sea of red and losses.

Speaker 3 So here's what I'll guarantee: it was the exact same cash out that they offered me right when I put the bet in. So that's minus 10%.
That's minus money. Minus 10%.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Good investment.
Okay, so other things, clean up from Sunday. I wanted to point out this stat from our friend Ben Baby.
This one's crazy.

Speaker 1 Through the first 11 games on the 4-7 Bengals, Joe Burrow has 3,028 passing yards, 27 touchdowns, and 5 interceptions.

Speaker 1 Players to achieve 3,000 passing yards, 27 touchdowns, and 5 or fewer interceptions through the first 11 games. Here they are.
Tom Brady, 2007 and 2015. His teams were 16-0 and 13-3.
3.

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers, 2011-2020, his teams were 15-1, 13-3. Patrick Mahomes, 2020, 14-2.
Drew Brees, 2018, 13-3.

Speaker 1 This entire exercise is just to prove that Joe Burrow is having an insane season, and the rest of his team has let him down. Yeah, it sucks.
It sucks.

Speaker 1 That's every single, I mean, the lowest amount of wins was 13-3 of that list I just said. And he's in a list with Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, and Drew Brees, and they're four and seven.

Speaker 3 We should start talking more about Joe Burrow being the MVP.

Speaker 1 All right, you're trolling me too now.

Speaker 3 I mean, if they go on a little run. Yeah.
I just got to live to get trolled.

Speaker 3 Hank, you've seen these stats from Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 I have.

Speaker 3 And if he finishes

Speaker 1 in the league, listen, my biggest crime here, by the way,

Speaker 1 is being early to all of these takes that actually have value.

Speaker 3 First in the league.

Speaker 1 Chargers, Travis Hunter, Joe Burrow, MVP. Who told you about all three of those a month and a half ago? Smart guy.
That's my crime. That is my crime.

Speaker 1 I mean, he has MVP numbers. What do you want me to say?

Speaker 3 He is having an outstanding season. Sorry, I know ball.

Speaker 5 If they make the playoffs, he would be in the conversation.

Speaker 1 No, probably not because he's like the sixth seed now. And I also, I mean, that was.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but if he made the playoffs, that would be so impressive that.

Speaker 1 He should be.

Speaker 1 We discount

Speaker 1 the MVP conversation just becomes the quarterback of the team on the one seat.

Speaker 5 That sucks. But I think if his stats were all one

Speaker 5 and they somehow went on a run to make the playoffs, it would be different.

Speaker 1 I agree. If he goes on like a meeting,

Speaker 1 if they run the table and finally sneak in and he has insane numbers, he would definitely win. I'd feel vindicated.
Are you still in on that? Yeah. What's the number you got there? 15.
It's 20 now.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I might get in. I might get in.
Might get right out.

Speaker 5 I might do a parlay.

Speaker 1 Fuck you guys.

Speaker 1 I'm done saying my takes that actually end up being good that have value. I think

Speaker 1 so down makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck you.

Speaker 1 You guys are welcome for telling you about Travis Hunter.

Speaker 3 Okay, I had had that conversation with Brandon Walker that day. That's why I thanked you for bringing it up because I was going to bring it up on this very show.

Speaker 3 And Brandon tried to talk me out of Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 He's been a Travis Hunter hater for the whole year. I know.

Speaker 3 Okay, so let's start talking about what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 I'm dumb straight from you. Brandon Walker is.
Fuck you, Hank.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.

Speaker 1 Now I won't.

Speaker 1 Whatever. You know what? I'm going to keep my takes to myself.

Speaker 5 Whatever. Whatever.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to tweet him out.

Speaker 1 I was paying you a compliment. I can't trust anything you say now.
That's unique.

Speaker 1 I can't. I feel like I'm Max right here.

Speaker 5 I'm being honest. My opinion is how to change.

Speaker 1 Great is honesty. That's crime.
Great is honesty, Max. He's never honest.
Okay, thank you. I appreciate that.
I appreciate that, Max.

Speaker 3 I love this.

Speaker 1 Everything he does on that

Speaker 1 couch is a troll.

Speaker 1 I speak facts.

Speaker 5 What if I please point to me a fact that I've said that's been false?

Speaker 1 When you sat down on that couch before we were recording and you were just like, I think Charger's future is a good bet.

Speaker 3 We should build a little bridge that goes above Hank's head on that wall behind there.

Speaker 1 Little troll guy.

Speaker 1 Trolls live here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Don't feed the troll. I do love the new partnership, though, that Max and the big ass.

Speaker 1 I think Bridge.

Speaker 1 I just took Joe Burrow 20 to 1, by the way. Okay.

Speaker 1 No, what we should talk about before we talk college football is that guy over there that's just not said a word for the whole show.

Speaker 1 He's just watching the chaos, loving the chaos, thinking maybe, maybe, maybe they'll forget the fact that

Speaker 1 the Jets fired their GM in the middle of the season, and this is now just, I mean, even for the Jets,

Speaker 1 everything has happened. It's just, there's such a dumpster fire.
Memes, Joe Douglas gets fired. Is this the thing that will fix everything? No, because he was pretty much, this was his final season.

Speaker 1 He had six games left.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
So the timing of it makes absolutely no sense. I still don't understand it.
They want to get a jump on him. They fired their GM six weeks before the season's over.

Speaker 3 What was he going to be doing in those six weeks?

Speaker 1 Well, I think you want to fire someone so that you can start your draft prep with someone who's actually going to be there to draft them.

Speaker 3 I guess.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean, they're scouting right now. A bunch of reports came out that he pretty much wasn't the GM for the past nine months.
Oh, who was? It was Woody Johnson. He just, he went,

Speaker 1 he took full control of the team. Okay, so that's awesome.

Speaker 3 Memes, I don't know if you had a chance to see this. A report just came out like five minutes before we started taping that Woody Johnson tried to bench Aaron Rodgers after the Broncos game.

Speaker 3 And that Joe Douglas talked him out of it.

Speaker 1 Who reported that?

Speaker 3 Let me look it up. It was on the athletic.

Speaker 1 I mean, I believe you said apparently there's a bunch of reports coming out.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's Diana Rossini and Zach Rosenblatt.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. That's a half of Rossini.

Speaker 3 Jets owner Woody Johnson suggested benching Aaron Rodgers in September per sources.

Speaker 1 Per sources.

Speaker 3 And apparently Douglas talked him out of it. And all the other.
So after that game, Woody Johnson summoned every coach to the office to explain to him what went wrong.

Speaker 3 Like defense coordinator, head coach, offense coordinator, whatever it is Nathaniel Hackett does, he was in the room too. Joe Douglas was there.
And

Speaker 3 he asked them to explain themselves. And then he said, well, what about benching Aaron Rodgers right now? And they said, are you serious? They asked him if he was serious, and he was.

Speaker 1 I kind of believe it. Yeah.
Because everything that's coming out, I mean, this guy's just an asshole. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 the Jets are just. I mean, is Aaron Rodgers just the coach NGM right now? No,

Speaker 1 he's gone too. Fully.
Fully, he's gone. Where is he going to go? Is he the Titans' quarterback?

Speaker 3 And Titans would be a good fit for him. Oh, that would be fun.

Speaker 1 Because he could win the AFC South, maybe.

Speaker 1 Maybe. Probably not.
I think he might walk across to the other locker room.

Speaker 3 What? The Giants?

Speaker 1 He loves New York.

Speaker 1 If you look at which teams need a quarterback. Oh, my God.
I didn't even think about that. They improved their O-line.
They have some receivers. Their defensive line is good.
He doesn't have to move.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have to move. He loves New York.
And then somebody else threw out the Panthers, but he wouldn't go to the panthers no no no that's beneath him yeah wait the giants the giants is intriguing

Speaker 1 i could see and you know how this is going to work memes right

Speaker 1 yeah he'll be good again he'll be very good for at least one year he's going to go so if he goes to the giants he'll be awesome for a year then he'll it'll be over but he'll have one year just to because he he basically will just have a chip on his shoulder that's really what if you break down what happened with aaron rodgers i know everyone goes with the achilles and the achilles obviously ended that season.

Speaker 1 The biggest reason that Aaron Rodgers didn't work in the Jets is because the Achilles took away his chip on his shoulder year.

Speaker 1 The guy is great when he has a chip on his shoulder. He had it from Green Bay.
He got hurt, couldn't play. The chip on the shoulder goes away.

Speaker 1 Now he's got a year where he doesn't have to prove anything. Next year is his chip on his shoulder year for the Jets.

Speaker 3 If he wanted a chip on his shoulder, he should have just taken the vax.

Speaker 1 It's true.

Speaker 3 Now, if he goes to the Giants,

Speaker 3 that would be, it would be a troll move, too. And I know that he loves.
his next move, might just be to piss off whoever his most recent enemy is. And in this case, it would be the Jets.

Speaker 3 I feel like that would piss the Jets off the most, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hmm.

Speaker 1 So that could happen.

Speaker 1 That could happen.

Speaker 1 I was just looking at the list of teams, and there's not many suitors. People were saying the Vikings, but Gigi McCarthy's going to start when he's healthy.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It's like whichever team

Speaker 3 doesn't get Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, and then people were saying just get Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 What? Why? I don't know.

Speaker 1 That was getting thrown around yesterday.

Speaker 1 That's just people trying to get to you. Yeah, they're making it.
That's the people doing the Mike McCarthy to the Bears. You can't let that get to you.

Speaker 1 It's just

Speaker 1 a bad situation. Yeah, I watched it.

Speaker 5 I was about to say

Speaker 5 earlier in the office, there was a huddle. Memes were sitting in the background.

Speaker 1 Yes, Troll.

Speaker 1 I'm starting to see through Max's eyes, and it just feels good. Okay, go ahead.
Yes, Troll. I saw a hand.
You want to ask a question this entire time. It's my favorite part of it.

Speaker 1 I love what you add to everything. Go ahead.

Speaker 5 This isn't a troll.

Speaker 1 Okay. This is a report.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, I know what Hank is.

Speaker 1 Please report.

Speaker 5 I literally can't even speak this question.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. I want to hear your report.
Giving a report.

Speaker 5 I want to hear your report.

Speaker 5 This is an eyewitness report.

Speaker 1 From you? From me.

Speaker 5 Okay. My eyes witnessed this and heard.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 Memes was sitting around a table with like Pug, Liam, his guys, four other people.

Speaker 1 His crew.

Speaker 5 What are you guys huddling? Everyone's standing around. Memes was sitting down, showing all the power.
And I was like, what are you guys doing? And they said, they're fixing the Jets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, me, Bluntman, and

Speaker 1 what is the purpose? Fixing the Jets. Okay, so go ahead.

Speaker 5 Is that a troll?

Speaker 1 No, that's not a troll.

Speaker 1 We came up with a bunch of different scenarios.

Speaker 1 Condoleezza Rice was at

Speaker 1 one of the crazier scenarios.

Speaker 3 One of the crazier scenarios.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we went through as many scenarios as you could.

Speaker 1 Justin Fields was one of the options.

Speaker 1 I would say no.

Speaker 1 No, that will not fix you.

Speaker 1 As a bridge quarterback. No, that will not fix you.
The best scenario was Mike Rabel's coach, Kevin Stefancy, gets fired from the Browns. He becomes the OC.

Speaker 1 You bring in Jameis as the bridge. Okay.

Speaker 1 And then Super Bowl. Wait, but who's the new quarterback?

Speaker 3 There has to be something at the other side of the bridge.

Speaker 1 You said Jameis. Jameis.
But But he's the bridge. No, but the bridge is also a Super Bowl.
Oh, it's just a bridge. It's just last time.
You win a Super Bowl

Speaker 3 in a rebuilding year. Okay, God.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 it's a rebuilding year, but it's not at the same time because the roster's still good. We just don't have a quarterback.
There's another name that you told me that you want.

Speaker 1 And that's Sam Darnold. Oh.
Yeah, Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 Sam Darnold got thrown out there, too. It was dark times.
We're in dark times. Memes.

Speaker 3 I think we asked you about that like a week ago, and you puked.

Speaker 1 Memes.

Speaker 1 But that's just as a bridge, and none of this is going to happen because we're just going to draft someone who's going to suck. Memes.

Speaker 3 You know, that's the difference between American sports fans and European sports fans. European sports fans, if they had a Jets doing this to them, they would riot.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 There would be like stones thrown at cars. They would not.
They don't put up with shit over there.

Speaker 1 No, you're right.

Speaker 1 People just keep buying tickets. People keep buying jerseys.
We haven't made the playoffs in 14 years. I went my entire 20s without seeing the Jets in a playoff.

Speaker 1 It's tough. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And nothing's going to change because the owner is still the same.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 5 What are you going to say, Hank? No, that sucks. I didn't think about the 20s.

Speaker 3 What were your 20s like, Hank?

Speaker 5 There's a decade to win to your 20s.

Speaker 1 But that's all right.

Speaker 5 30s are fun, too.

Speaker 1 30s are fun too. Are you 30?

Speaker 1 I'm turning. When? March.
So you got to win a playoff game this year.

Speaker 1 Wait, your whole 20s? Whole 20s.

Speaker 1 Not haven't been in the playoffs since I was a sophomore in high school.

Speaker 1 Hank, stop.

Speaker 1 Stop it, Hank.

Speaker 1 Wild. Stop it.

Speaker 5 I hope, memes, that you get to see the playoff one. I truly do.

Speaker 1 I don't think it could ever happen. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, yeah, you got to figure out coach, too. And your number one is Vrabes.

Speaker 1 Yes. I mean, memes, I've been to the playoffs, but yeah,

Speaker 1 we're not. We've talked about it.
It's the same dysfunction happens in both places. They're a little bit different because the Jets do a

Speaker 1 Jets' dysfunction is more all in and then they fall on their face. The Bears' dysfunction is more, hey, let's hope we catch lightning in a bottle every now and then and then fuck it up.

Speaker 1 Like, you guys actually take a shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 that's the one thing about this year. We did.
Yeah. You do appreciate the effort of trying to go all in.
Correct. Right.
But it was just the biggest disaster of all time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Man, what are you going to say, man? Playoffs are are overrated.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You just, well, Hank's not allowed to say that. No.
Because losing sucks. Yeah.
Getting to the playoffs, getting your hopes up, and then losing is so much pain.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but going on a run is so much fun.

Speaker 3 Yeah, getting to the playoffs is fun.

Speaker 1 You guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 This is loser talk. Yes.

Speaker 1 100%. Hank?

Speaker 3 Guilty as charged.

Speaker 1 Hank?

Speaker 5 Playoffs are overrated.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 5 That's okay being mediocre.

Speaker 5 Pats are bad. I feel great.

Speaker 1 All right. Speaking of playoffs, should we talk some college football?

Speaker 1 Should we talk some college football? We have the rankings out.

Speaker 1 The rankings, let me, I just had them in front of me, and then they just lost them. Here they are.
It is right now the playoff bracket would be

Speaker 1 one seed Oregon, two seed Texas, three seed Miami, four seed Boise State, because BYU just lost.

Speaker 1 Then it would be home game for Ohio State against BYU, home game for Notre Dame against Alabama. That would be awesome.

Speaker 1 Home game for Penn State against Georgia, and home game for Indiana versus Ole Miss.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we're two weeks, three weeks really, because we have the conference championships away from the first 12-team playoff bracket. I like how everyone's getting upset.
What are your initial thoughts, PFT?

Speaker 3 My My initial thoughts are: it's fun to be mad about a hypothetical list that will ultimately look much different in two weeks. So, yeah, get your anger out somehow.
It's probably a lot left.

Speaker 3 It's probably healthy to get some of this anger that's pent up out.

Speaker 3 There is some anger that I guess could be pointed towards who would you say would be like the most

Speaker 3 undeserving higher seed? A lot of people are looking at Ohio State, Indiana, because they're about to play this weekend. Yeah, Indiana fans still have a right to be upset.

Speaker 3 Here's what I'll say about Indiana. Get all of your hatred out right now.
Enjoy attacking the media for underrating you because you don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker 3 There's a good chance you get your ass kicked by Ohio State this weekend. So take this time.

Speaker 3 Savor every moment of hate that you get to have at the committee for not treating you properly with enough respect.

Speaker 1 Well, I think you're ranked fine right now.

Speaker 3 If you look at it, but I mean, they don't have a loss. You play who you play.
We talked about that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but this is also, remember, this is the rankings for the automatic qualifiers are one through four. Yeah.
So they're ranked fine. Like, you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, Boise is not, Boise is not ranked higher than Indiana right now. They just are the automatic qualifier.

Speaker 3 No, I know that.

Speaker 1 Indiana is ranked fifth. Where else would you rank them? I mean, Penn State would be the only gripe you'd have, but like, yeah, I would, I, I think Indiana is ranked fine right now.

Speaker 1 The problem with Indiana is that Greg Senke made a call to all of media on Monday and had everyone in the media bash them when they have their big game coming up against Ohio State, and that makes no sense to me.

Speaker 1 Indiana has not played anyone. Indiana is an awesome story.
Indiana is an underdog story. I'm rooting for Indiana.
Let them at least go play Ohio State before we say Indiana sucks.

Speaker 1 Like, that was my problem. They have the game to play.
They're going to play the game on Saturday. Let Indiana go play themselves.

Speaker 1 If they get killed, I have no problem if people want to say that Indiana with one loss shouldn't be in the playoff. Like, I really won't if they get killed because they have not played anyone.

Speaker 1 But I want to see them play and compete, and I think they're going to hold themselves. I think they're going to do a good job

Speaker 1 staying in this game and maybe winning this game.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so Indiana this weekend, I want them to win. I'm rooting for Indiana because I'm a fan of chaos first and foremost when it comes to all this college football talk.

Speaker 3 I'm rooting for the double doomsday scenario where the Big 12 doesn't even get anybody in.

Speaker 3 That is a possibility. It's unlikely.

Speaker 1 It's pretty unlikely.

Speaker 3 But it could happen. I mean, at the start of the season, we were saying that there's no chance that a group of five gets a buy in the playoff.
Yeah. But that's become a possibility.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Now we're realizing that the double doomsday is also a possibility. I think if you're an SEC team,

Speaker 3 if you end up with two losses and you're an SEC team, you really don't have a right to complain about anything.

Speaker 1 Unless you're Georgia.

Speaker 3 Potentially Georgia.

Speaker 1 Georgia played a gauntlet schedule.

Speaker 3 Potentially Georgia.

Speaker 3 I understand that. No, I think Georgia might, they might be the best team in the country.

Speaker 1 Right. And

Speaker 1 they played Clemson, non-conference. They had to play all their tough games on the road.

Speaker 1 Georgia's the only one.

Speaker 1 But like the big thing is, my big takeaway from this entire week is everyone, again, I think there was a coordinated hit against Indiana, which makes no sense to me because this is the last time they can say strength to schedule.

Speaker 1 Their strength of schedule is about to get a lot better because they're going to play Ohio State this weekend in Columbus. Let them play on the field before we say they shouldn't be in.

Speaker 1 If they get smoked on Saturday, then I'm fine. They shouldn't be in.
But let them actually play. And like, since when did we not like these underdog stories?

Speaker 1 Actually, I kind of know the answer to that. It's pretty much the minute the underdog takes the blue bloods away, which is like what happens in all sports.

Speaker 1 Like, we root for the underdog, and then if the blue blood gets squeezed out, we're like, no, we don't want this underdog anymore.

Speaker 1 Texas and Penn State have been hiding behind their resumes for the entire time, and no one's saying anything about that.

Speaker 3 Texas is hiding behind just like a multi-decade resume at this point. Because if Texas loses, if they

Speaker 1 should be out. Then they should be out, right? 100%.

Speaker 3 A two-lost Texas team. They have no big wins.
They don't have their best win is what, in Michigan? No, Vanderbilt.

Speaker 1 Vanderbilt? Yeah. Yeah.
And Penn State is the same way. I know, Max, you don't like hearing that, but Penn State, like 100%.
They're hiding in play.

Speaker 1 The ire has been at Indiana when it's like, how about Texas and Penn State? I have been saying, we've been talking about this all day in the office. I need Ohio State to beat the shit out of Indiana.

Speaker 1 Right. Because then that problems arise for Penn State, I think.
Right. If Indiana wins this game, or yeah, because there could be, yeah, yeah, but Texas, Penn State will not lose a game, probably.

Speaker 1 I think they have Minnesota this weekend. That's not easy.
Yeah, that's not easy. And then they play, I think, finished with Maryland.
Texas could easily lose to Texas AM.

Speaker 1 It is a mess everywhere. I just didn't like the coordinated hit on Indiana, and I do have something very funny to share with you guys.

Speaker 1 This made me laugh. So, Indiana Twitter, shout out them.
They've been fighting really hard, and they've been going after people, and I respect it.

Speaker 1 This guy, fifth-ranked Indiana edits. I'm just going to assume he's a stoolie.
Maybe not.

Speaker 1 But anyway, he said he posted a group chat with his friends that said, we need to get Dan Dockich involved in this SEC fight. Let's bring out the big guns.
Got to find a way to show the SEC is woke.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 Chris DePlant wrote, he quote tweeted Rosillo and McShay talking. He said, hey, Dockich, the West Coast California liberals are trying to steal another election.

Speaker 1 handing out a participation trophy to a two-loss sec team is utter woke nonsense do something and then

Speaker 1 five minutes later my ass quote treated the same tweet and said dudes that were this is about rascal mcshea dudes that were never in a locker room other than to take a peek get an autograph or take a picture he just like mission accomplished got him played college football he did yeah he was a quarterback right yeah yeah but it was so funny they weaponized in dockichillo Rosillo lives in locker rooms.

Speaker 3 They're usually at an equinox, but he's always in a locker room.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just loved it. So shout out Indiana fans fighting the good fight on Twitter.

Speaker 3 I also love Joe Galloway.

Speaker 3 This is brain rot.

Speaker 3 So college football has their brain rot, and it's reached its peak with Joe Galloway, who says that Indiana should consider benching their quarterback, Curtis Rourke, against Ohio State to avoid a repeat of what happened last year with FSU.

Speaker 3 Yep. And their quarterback getting injured at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 It's broken everybody's brain. And what I love about the college football playoff is you have, you expand the argument.

Speaker 3 So there was, in theory, an argument that you could have every year about the four-team playoff. And now you've just got so many other schools making a case that they deserve to be in it.

Speaker 3 Yada, yada, yada. My resume is better than this resume.
But at the end of the day, you can tell those teams that are bitching if they get left out, you should have won more games. Yeah,

Speaker 3 you should have won more games. And that's about as simple as it gets.

Speaker 1 And you could do it with almost like, listen, I think Tennessee is a very good team. Obviously, didn't go well for them in Georgia.

Speaker 1 Tennessee, you lost to Arkansas. Arkansas is not good.
Yeah. You know, I get it.
You play a tough schedule. Alabama, like, you lost to Vanderbilt.

Speaker 1 Vanderbilt had a nice run there, but they're not going to finish it. Like, there's, if you have two losses and one of them isn't the best loss, like, that's why Georgia.

Speaker 1 Le Miss has two bad, bad losses. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, wait, they lost.
LSU. Yeah, LSU is a bad loss now.
I mean, it was, that was a crazy game. That was a pure Saturday night in Baton Rouge game.

Speaker 3 Kentucky's a bad loss.

Speaker 1 Kentucky's a bad loss. So, yeah, it's just like, like, and I get it.
Indiana, the one thing I like about like, people complain about the unbalanced schedule now.

Speaker 1 I kind of like it just because a team like Indiana can have a season like this where the schedule bounces their way and still they have to prove it. They have to prove it in Columbus on Saturday.

Speaker 1 So, wait, what were you saying about Joey Galloway further on that?

Speaker 3 No, I was done with Joey Galloway.

Speaker 3 I just think it's funny that he's reached that point where he's like thinking through these scenarios to the point where he's got it's that meme of the guy that's his brain is so big that he's playing chess against his own brain.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's what Joey Galloway is doing. I was going to talk talk about Georgia again, real quick.
Oh, okay. I think Georgia is the best team in the country.

Speaker 3 When it was Texas and Georgia playing each other, I said that Texas was going to win. I was wrong about that.

Speaker 3 But the more I've watched Georgia, the more I've kind of,

Speaker 3 since there's no real dominant team in the SEC this year,

Speaker 3 I think Georgia at their best beats any team at their best. I think Georgia at their worst also beats any team at their worst.
Like the floor for Georgia is higher than any other team's floor.

Speaker 3 And I think that Georgia, like medium Georgia, probably beats everybody at their medium except for maybe Alabama.

Speaker 1 I was going to say Counterpoint Alabama, they literally can't beat Alabama.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Alabama.

Speaker 3 That was a weird game because you had

Speaker 1 Alabama

Speaker 3 at their best and Georgia at their worst in the first half. Then it flip-flopped in the second half.

Speaker 1 But Kirby can't beat Alabama.

Speaker 3 I think the way that Georgia's been playing recently, I think they are the best team in the country. But they're not a perfect team.

Speaker 1 I think think Oregon's pretty damn good, too. I think Ohio State's pretty damn good.
This is why I like the 12-team playoff.

Speaker 1 I think there's a lot of good misses Ole Miss's defensive line can wreck anyone. Like there's

Speaker 1 something about like seven or eight teams where I'm like, yeah, if they do, even in Miami, who I don't think is great, like their defense is great, Cam Ward can win a playoff game.

Speaker 1 You know, that's what I love about this.

Speaker 3 I also have no idea how to handicap a matchup between Oregon and Georgia. No idea.
That to me, they might as well be playing in two different countries. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, I don't, my brain can't comprehend what that matchup would even look like.

Speaker 1 I know Oregon didn't look great against Wisconsin on Saturday. That was kind of like Wisconsin was throwing everything they had at them.
And also, Oregon, that was their eighth straight game.

Speaker 1 That was the longest streak of games without a bye week in the country.

Speaker 1 You could see that they were kind of running out of gas.

Speaker 3 All in conference, too, I think, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were running out of gas. So, like, I wasn't shocked that they played with fire there.
I still think Oregon's very, very good.

Speaker 1 And they also, like, they have some of their guys, I think they're running back,

Speaker 1 they have them on like load management, basically. The end of that game.
And they'll stop doing that once they get to the playoffs.

Speaker 3 The end of that game was insane when Dan Lanning faked a punt. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That was so stupid. I think that's probably eight games.
His brain is probably exhausted at this point. Yeah.
Because that was some dumb shit that he tried to pull. He got away with it.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Troll, you had a question.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Troll.

Speaker 1 No, I won't ask it then. No, no, no.
I want it. I want you to raise your question.
Come out of the. We need like a graphic where he like

Speaker 1 he comes out from underneath. What do you want me to do? I want this is what I want.
No, but I'm not trolling. Okay, I want to ask your non-trolling.
I want it. I want the question.

Speaker 3 Troll, you are dismissed. Henry Lockwood, do you have a question?

Speaker 5 I will go sit. Max and come sit on the couch.
I'll go sit in the booth.

Speaker 1 President Pudd wants.

Speaker 5 I don't know what I'm supposed to do sitting in this seat.

Speaker 1 You're doing it. You're doing a great job.
But I'm not trolling. But when you do troll, you do a great job.
Like, that's what the people want.

Speaker 5 What did you think about Oregon flipping the jump around on Wisconsin by just going absolutely nuts?

Speaker 1 What do you mean? The fans?

Speaker 5 No, the players.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 a lot of teams do that.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You thought they took back jump around?

Speaker 5 They kind of did. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jump around's not great. Yeah, I know.
Max doesn't think so. Guess what? Madison, with the new teams from the West Coast, there was a lot of Oregon fans there.
Madison's a great college town.

Speaker 1 Everyone puts it on their list of places they want to go see. So we have a lot of fans show up.
My buddy was there. He said there was Oregon fans everywhere.
Bucket list. I was just curious.

Speaker 1 Okay, that wasn't troll.

Speaker 1 Never is. How are your Washington Huskies doing? Bad.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Could play spoiler this week.

Speaker 1 That's the other thing I want to say just in defense of Indiana. I know I'm defending Indiana a lot.
You don't know year to year what your schedule is going to look like.

Speaker 1 Everyone had Florida State on their schedule this year. Thought, I understand what you're going to say.

Speaker 1 They did cancel a game against Louisville for Western Illinois.

Speaker 1 That does hurt their case. case.

Speaker 1 But they had on their schedule Michigan and Washington, two teams that were in the national championship last year, two teams that their coaches left, and their programs completely took a big step back.

Speaker 1 You can't really predict that part. Yeah, no, I'm rooting very hard for Indiana.
You were going to say the Western Illinois thing, which is fair.

Speaker 1 I learned about that like an hour ago. Oh, no,

Speaker 1 Louisville fans are all up in Indiana's face. Kirstignetti was not the one who canceled the game.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but in Indiana's defense, like Indiana, if you look at their schedule this year compared to what Indiana has played in the past, you can't write any of these games down as easy wins for Indiana.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 Like going into the season under a normal Indiana football team, this is a hard schedule for them because they have not been good at football and they turned it around and they are very good at football.

Speaker 3 I don't think that this is a fluke either.

Speaker 3 They got good players. They got a great coach.
Just got an extension, by the way. Yeah.
Which, I mean, extensions in college football. It means nothing.

Speaker 3 It really means he got had a temporary raise, at least for the next like month. And then he's probably free to go anywhere he wants to light that contract on fire.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, nothing that they've done this year to me screams fluke at all. I think Signetti is he's a real deal.

Speaker 1 Are you looking at their schedule next year? Well, this was just what somebody else was. Oh, yeah, that's not a good guy.
They're non-conference. They're non-conference

Speaker 1 they've skipped non-conference.

Speaker 1 They've decided to elect out of non-conference games. They do have to go to Oregon and Penn State next year.

Speaker 3 ODU, Old Dominion.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Kennesaw State.

Speaker 1 Kennesaw State won one game this year, and then they fired their coach who

Speaker 1 their program. Yeah, Indiana State Sycamores.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's fair.

Speaker 1 They skipped non-conference. I wish Wisconsin wouldn't play Alabama at a home and home.
That sucks. It sucks.
I'd rather have that be a win. We'd be bull eligible right now.

Speaker 3 But you know what? There's really no need to schedule a tough out-of-conference schedule with a 12-team playoff.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 you could make the case. Yes, you should, because if Indiana had played and beaten Louisville and then they lose to Ohio State, they would still have a case to be in the 12-team playoff.

Speaker 1 If they lose to Ohio State and they have no signature win, no big win, it's going to be harder to make that case.

Speaker 3 I would like to see Indiana in it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you see what I'm saying. I know if they beat Louisville earlier, they would have a lot better of a chance.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 if you schedule hard games for yourself out of conference, it just makes it more likely that you're going to take away the possibility of you being in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's loser time. It's Coward's Layout.
Yeah, yeah, that was Cowards. That's Cowards.

Speaker 3 But guess what? The Cowards Wayout is working right now.

Speaker 1 Well, no, it could backfire on them.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. If they lose to Ohio State by a lot, it actually will be the wrong approach because playing and beating Louisville would have gotten them in.

Speaker 3 You're banking on the opportunity to get kicked out by your one tough loss that you have and then spending the time getting mad at the committee for not putting you in, even though you only have one loss.

Speaker 3 Right. Which, as a loser, is a pretty satisfying way to deal with it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Big 12. So, the Big 12 could be left out.
I still don't think it's going to happen. BYU lost to Kansas, which

Speaker 1 BYU's been playing with fire for a long time.

Speaker 1 Now, we have Arizona State, who is a great story and has been playing great ball, could give BYU their second loss this weekend because they have to go down to Tempe.

Speaker 1 And I'm

Speaker 1 our Colorado and Travis Hunter going to Kansas, who's playing great ball as well, is going to be a tough one. The Big 12 just eats itself alive.

Speaker 1 Also, shout out Kenny Dillingham, the coach of Arizona State.

Speaker 1 He's the guy who you're going to try out for in the offseason.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I've been working out. He's awesome.

Speaker 3 I've been working the leg out the last couple days back on the Peloton. I think I can get up.

Speaker 1 What if I 40?

Speaker 3 40 yards by my 40th birthday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 Is that good enough? I love that. Study law at Arizona State?

Speaker 1 Sure. They've got a good program.
Why not? Yeah, they've got everything. He's Pete Prisco.

Speaker 3 What do you think a law degree from Arizona State would get me? What would my hourly rate be?

Speaker 1 You'd be like 100 bucks. Good ambulance.
Oh, I only know one person who went to Arizona State and he's got issues.

Speaker 3 I feel like law degree from Arizona State, DUI specialist. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think that might be my goal.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Big 12 is going to be chaotic.

Speaker 1 This is what the Big 12 is built on parody. The Big 12 is built on the chaos.
The Big 12's chaos,

Speaker 1 very unlikely, but could fuck them.

Speaker 3 What are the chances? It's probably unlikely, but Oklahoma State is having just an awful season. Yes.
They are shitty. Gundy's going to stick around for forever, right? Yeah.
In Stillwater? Yeah.

Speaker 3 He's not going anywhere. No.
No matter how shitty it gets.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, unless he wants to leave. Yeah.
No. Jets?

Speaker 1 Am Mike Gundy is the Jets? Not a troll. Oh, I mean.

Speaker 1 I mean, memes. That was so perfect because Aid's like, there's that fine line of him being like, you guys accuse me of being in troll and then he can't help.

Speaker 3 Dude, Mike Gundy in New York would be so funny.

Speaker 1 Memes also is going off on Rossini back here right now.

Speaker 1 It's like, where is he?

Speaker 1 Seriously, where is she getting these sources? Where is she getting these sources? Why does that make any sense? We just beat the shit out of the Patriots

Speaker 1 before that game.

Speaker 1 You did.

Speaker 3 I'm going to go out on a limb.

Speaker 3 I don't have any Rossini sources on this.

Speaker 1 You are a Rossini source.

Speaker 3 No, but I'm saying I've not contacted my sources at Rossini Incorporated, but I'm going to guess with the timing of everything, maybe Joe Douglas was a source.

Speaker 1 You think?

Speaker 1 Memes? It's just a little far-fetched to believe

Speaker 1 because they just beat the shit out of the Patriots on primetime the week before and they lost because of a missed field goal, which would have made it a 12-10 win.

Speaker 1 Okay. That really was the game that ended everything.
Everything.

Speaker 3 Memes.

Speaker 1 Mike Gundy, yeah, no. Yeah, Mike Gundy.

Speaker 3 You declined Mike Gundy?

Speaker 1 Mike Gundy, Biff Pogey. Bring him on in.
Dude, he's the best.

Speaker 3 He was fired at Charlotte, all-time football guy. He's the dude that coaches in the cutoff, like the sleeveless vest on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 And is like independently very wealthy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they brought him back to practice this week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you see that?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Even though they fired him last week, they let him come onto the practice field and address the team.

Speaker 1 Say goodbye, yeah.

Speaker 3 Which is, I guess it's pretty cool for Charlotte because he seems like a cool guy.

Speaker 3 Memes, would I actually expect the Jets to try to do possibly Cliff Kingsbury?

Speaker 1 I saw people say that. No.

Speaker 3 It's tough bringing up scenarios to memes because he lives online. So no matter what scenario you bring up to him, he's like,

Speaker 3 I saw some tweets saying that earlier.

Speaker 1 I've seen most scenarios, and I don't like most of them.

Speaker 1 Okay. Mike Vrabel is the only one.

Speaker 1 I think we would ruin Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson would come in.
He would just be Adam Gates 2.0. There's no chance Vrabel would go into that situation.
No. Yeah, no.
Adam Gates 2.0. He would.

Speaker 3 Why don't you run it back?

Speaker 1 Stop. Hyperdrive.
Hyper Drive. Come on.

Speaker 1 I don't think there's a coach that wants to coach the Jets that will be the Jets head coach next year. Wait, say that again.
There's not a coach out there that wants to coach the

Speaker 1 coach

Speaker 1 next year won't want to coach the Jets. It'll just be the only available job open

Speaker 1 because they want to be a head coach. They'll not want to be the coach of the Jets.

Speaker 1 So it kind of sounds like you're saying there's no one out there who wants to coach the Jets. Correct.
That's an easier way to say it.

Speaker 1 I like the way I i say you got to find like a special teams coach that nobody knows about but is like a great leader of men yeah yeah i mean memes again

Speaker 1 we're in the same spot i do not think that like the bears will get the first no no no no no no no no you have a rookie quarterback who still has a ton of potential but my point is i don't the bears will the the the number one choice the bears could make they'll say we're not going to interview him because he's too much of a man the number two choice will probably say i don't want to coach for the bears because that's a disruption.

Speaker 1 The number three choice will be like, I'm going to go do this. We'll get the fourth or fifth.

Speaker 1 We're not the top choice. Yeah, we're not the top choice.
Right. We've never been the top choice team.
But you're definitely a more attractive choice than you. Yes.
But we're not a top choice team.

Speaker 3 That's a fact. Is there a college coach?

Speaker 3 I feel like that's where the Jets are.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the Jets are at that point. Like every franchise has been through this.
You try every other way. You try to get guys that you think might be surefire hits, and none of them work out.

Speaker 3 And then you say, oh, fuck it. I'll try to get a hot shot college coach, and we'll just see if that works, even though it has never worked, with the exception of maybe Harbaugh.

Speaker 3 But I don't, I guess Harbaugh was like a college coach. Pete Carroll, yeah, but he also had like a previous stint in the NFL.

Speaker 1 For the Jets.

Speaker 3 For the Jets. Yeah.
The Jets tried doing it with Pete Carroll. Good point.

Speaker 3 Jimmy Johnson.

Speaker 1 Lou Holt. Lou Holtz.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Great NFL career.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 You guys want to hear finish the the college football talk with one of the craziest stats I've ever seen?

Speaker 5 Sure.

Speaker 1 Not Travis Hunter, who should be the Heisman. He needs to be, we need Colorado needs to be Kansas.

Speaker 3 Kansas is very good now. That was a great, great touchdown run he had.

Speaker 1 By the way, how sick, this is a really stupid thought, but how thick, sick would it be if the commanders

Speaker 1 drafted the Kansas quarterback as the backup?

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, I don't want that because I was getting

Speaker 1 Daniels.

Speaker 3 So I was rooting for Kansas Kansas on Saturday night when I was watching the game just because they kept saying Jalen Daniels. And it made me feel like half excited.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would be cool. It would be cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Here's the crazy stat.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Kentucky is playing Texas this weekend.

Speaker 1 That is the farthest west Kentucky football has ever played a football game. Oh, wow.
Good set. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's like half the country. Half the country.
Kentucky has never played a football game west of Austin, Texas.

Speaker 5 Not even a bowl game? Nope.

Speaker 1 That's nuts. Not even a bowl game.
Not even a bowl game.

Speaker 1 This is from

Speaker 1 Brian Davis.

Speaker 3 What was the previous record? Was that

Speaker 1 Baton Rouge?

Speaker 1 They played in Austin like 40 years ago.

Speaker 3 So they're matching their records.

Speaker 1 They're matching their previous record. Well, depending on where the

Speaker 3 stadium is. I think DKR has been in the same spot.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But did they add to it? They did add to it.

Speaker 1 Did they add to it west?

Speaker 3 They built a highway, an overpass next to it, but I don't know if they moved it. If they did move it, I think they would have moved it a little bit northwest because there's another field next to it.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So it could possibly be the furthest they've ever gone.

Speaker 1 UK's last game at Texas was 73 years ago. That's crazy.
So this is the furthest what? That was Bear Bryant coaching them. Bear Bryant was a Kentucky coach in 1951.
That's just nuts to me.

Speaker 1 Never played a game further west than Austin, Texas. Okay, Daryl K.

Speaker 3 Royals Stadium has been home to the Longhorns football team since 1924. Okay.
So I'm thinking it has not moved.

Speaker 1 But have they added to the stadium, which I assume they did?

Speaker 3 They added to the stadium, so the fans might be the furthest away from Kentucky, but I don't know if they're going to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 Where do they walk in?

Speaker 1 Has the entrance changed? Is it further west than east?

Speaker 3 I think the entrance is on the south side.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 I'll get boots on the ground to answer this noise.

Speaker 1 Find out if there's any orientation of the field that's changed at all. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like even if they change the layout of the field and like one of the end zone goes like five feet further west, I'm looking at the furthest west they've ever played.

Speaker 3 Right now, I'm actually looking at the history of the renovations at DKR Stadium.

Speaker 3 They added sweets, and when was it the date of that? 1951. 1951.
Anything post-1951 here?

Speaker 3 They added lights, so that was a day game. Okay.

Speaker 1 This is the important stuff.

Speaker 3 I'm not.

Speaker 3 I think it might be because they expanded both end zones. Okay.
So the walk-in is going to be further away no matter what. Okay.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, we might have something. Okay.

Speaker 1 You're watching history when you watch that game. Yep.
Okay. Last thing before we kick it to ourselves.
Hank, good job. We're going to talk about the Cavs with Pat Bev, but you broke up the Cavs.
Yep.

Speaker 5 Pop the Champagne.

Speaker 1 NBA Cup. They actually are very fun games.
It does feel like they try harder.

Speaker 5 I will say two things because there has been also a lot of talk and reports about the NBA ratings being down and asked people, you know, asking what the cause is. I do like the NBA Cup.

Speaker 5 It makes it important. The Celtics lost a game last week to the Hawks.
They never should have lost.

Speaker 5 And all of a sudden, if they had lost tonight, then they would be screwed for the NBA Cup, which is crazy, but it made tonight's game that much more interesting.

Speaker 5 I do not like the court. I don't like it, I don't, I think for a casual fan,

Speaker 5 it's going to take a while for them to get the NBA Cup. It just doesn't help.
It's like, what is wrong with this court? Then you have to explain this whole long NBA Cup thing. Not a fan of the court.

Speaker 5 I disagree. I also hate.

Speaker 3 Wait, wait, are you not a fan of the court? Are you not a fan of explaining to people?

Speaker 5 The courts. I just don't like personally watching them.
And then it's like, why are they doing this? And they say it's because it's for the NBA Cup.

Speaker 5 I just don't think that's ever going to click to a casual fan like, ooh, new court.

Speaker 1 I like it because it feels different.

Speaker 3 I like it because it comes with some nice time lapses that you get to watch when you see them changing the court out.

Speaker 1 And the game feels different.

Speaker 3 It looks like you're watching it on Twitch. It looks like it's in a Twitch streamer's room.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 And I just hate the Celtic City Connect jerseys this year. What are they?

Speaker 5 They're Oregon jerseys. I don't understand the City Connect.
We're going to connect it back to a city. The Celtics have had the same jersey and scheme forever, and they just made jerseys.

Speaker 5 They legitimately look like Oregon.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't love

Speaker 1 the crazy jerseys in the NBA. It's too many.

Speaker 5 And the Cavs were playing on Sunday and they were wearing blue jerseys.

Speaker 5 We've talked about it before on the show, but it's like when you turn on a game and you can't tell what the teams are unless you look at the scorebook, that's a problem.

Speaker 1 It was when the Heat were wearing a yellow jersey and looked like the Pacers that I was like, this is too much. And it was, I think, the Blazers and Nuggets were playing it.

Speaker 1 The Nuggets were wearing the Blazers

Speaker 1 colors. Either way, we are doing, we're running a contest.
So we release our picks. We told you last week, we release our picks on socials every single Tuesday for our NBA Cup picks.

Speaker 1 So far, we have the first day, so this isn't counting what's playing right now. I'm 3-0, PFT is 2-1, Hank's 2-1, Max, you're 1-2.
So you're at the bottom of both.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we're recording this late right now.

Speaker 1 I just got absolutely fucked in my pick for tonight. Okay.

Speaker 1 So, but the NBA Cup, you can bet on it in DraftKings, and you can follow our picks, and we're running a competition.

Speaker 1 So we'll have the updated leaderboard.

Speaker 3 I think I went 2-1.

Speaker 5 I'm going to be 3-3. I went 1-2.

Speaker 3 Ah, shit. I'm still waiting on the Spurs Thunder.

Speaker 1 I like the NBA Cup, though. It does feel different.

Speaker 1 November NBA is tough to get into, and then you turn on the TV, and it's a different court. You're like, oh, okay.
They're trying a little harder.

Speaker 5 I want to win it. No team's ever won the NBA Cup and the finals.

Speaker 1 So you'd have to win the finals after, or are you counting it retro?

Speaker 5 No, no, no, no. We have to win the finals after.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Same year.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Chris Paul has five assists. I need two more.
It's It's halftime. I'm just going to count that as a win.
Oh, so I'm 2-0.

Speaker 1 Congrats. I think one and one right now.
I need AD tonight. Need a little bit.
You need a wait.

Speaker 3 Wait, say that again?

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I need a D. I need A.
I need a D. I need AD.
You need AD. I need AD.

Speaker 3 You need a D bad.

Speaker 1 I need a D. Bad.

Speaker 5 Big D in a big way. Bad.
Bad.

Speaker 1 Been craving a D.

Speaker 1 I need AD to be huge.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 let's do Hot T Cool Throne, and then we have Pat Bev.

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Speaker 1 Otto Henry.

Speaker 5 My hot seat is John Stamos.

Speaker 1 Ah, I had that as well.

Speaker 5 I'm going to botch the pronunciation,

Speaker 5 but his friend and co-star, Dave.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could just say Uncle Daniel. Dave Cayou? Coolier.

Speaker 5 Uncle Jesse, Uncle Danny. Fun fact, Danny wasn't actually an uncle.

Speaker 1 Or no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's

Speaker 1 an uncle.

Speaker 5 Stamos wasn't an uncle. No, Joey.

Speaker 1 It's not Uncle. Jesse was an uncle.

Speaker 3 Jesse was an uncle.

Speaker 1 I said it wrong.

Speaker 1 Danny was the dad. Uncle Joey.

Speaker 3 Joey was the comedian that just lived.

Speaker 1 Cut it out.

Speaker 3 Yep. He just lived in the house.

Speaker 5 Very sad, but he was... He revealed that he had a cancer diagnosis.
Jon Stamos then, to show support of him, did a Photoshop of him wearing a bald cap and posted that. Yes.

Speaker 5 And that was his way to show it.

Speaker 1 Crazy, crazy, crazy move.

Speaker 3 Wait, it was a photo. He did a Photoshop of him wearing a bald cap?

Speaker 1 He put on a bald cap.

Speaker 1 Right. And then he also photoshopped it to make him look even extra bald.

Speaker 3 Extra bald, more bald.

Speaker 1 I think he photoshopped where the lines on the bald cap are. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sounds like face-tuned, yeah. Insane move.

Speaker 3 Maybe his heart was in the right place. I don't think so.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Couldn't cut his hair off

Speaker 1 for his friend.

Speaker 3 I'll say this. There's one very lucky woman that's made the right decision not having to hang around that guy, Stamos, anymore.
That would be Rebecca Romaine. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Talk about an upgrade moving on to JOC.

Speaker 1 I had it as my cool throne for JOC.

Speaker 1 Cool throne, J-OC. J-OC is a stand-up guy.

Speaker 3 JOC would never do that.

Speaker 1 J-O-C is the.

Speaker 5 Jesse would just shave his head.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 5 Or just make a joke about how he's not going to shave his head.

Speaker 1 Right. And it'd make it very funny.
And he would probably

Speaker 1 making you laugh would cure cancer. Yeah.
Like, that's how funny he is.

Speaker 3 Bing-bong, Jesse. Yeah.
I like it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he blew it. He would blew it, Jesse.
He would look at him and be like, bing-bong, cancer, you're out.

Speaker 3 Bing-bong. This is Rebecca.
You know, Rebecca.

Speaker 1 This was crazy, though. Like, the fact that he did this, I guess the only little small part is that he admitted to it.

Speaker 1 Like, it would have been worse if he had just pretended that he shaved his head, but still.

Speaker 1 An insane, insane move.

Speaker 1 I mean, just an...

Speaker 1 How big of a narcissist do you have to be?

Speaker 5 Extremely. That's really what it is.
It's like, it is the, how do I make this about me? Right.

Speaker 1 Don't even, just don't even. Or just shave your head.
Or just don't shave your head, which you didn't do. And just don't wear a bald cap and be like, I'm here visiting my friend.

Speaker 1 I hope he gets better.

Speaker 3 Crazy. Also, some guys.

Speaker 5 His culture is not your cost.

Speaker 3 Right, yeah. Some guys look better with a shaved head.
Hank.

Speaker 1 Thank you. One of them.
Max.

Speaker 3 He looks like just an evil, like an alien billionaire.

Speaker 1 He's a penis head. What a dick.

Speaker 5 JLC made me chuckle pretty hard Monday night. He just tweeted like need 44 for Mixon tonight.

Speaker 1 He almost got it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but that's just like a very fantasy Monday night.

Speaker 5 Yeah, just let me. I got one guy left.
Just need a 44.

Speaker 5 And we win this week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're going to have JOC on, I think,

Speaker 1 next week for an update on the fantasy.

Speaker 3 I miss JOC.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're going to have him because I know people have been asking.

Speaker 5 My cool throne is Paul Skeens.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was... He stole all my shit.

Speaker 5 Was he in the hot seat, though?

Speaker 1 He was on the cool throne. So you had two cool thrones.
I had two cool thrones. I thought I was going to be okay, and it turns out I'm not.

Speaker 3 So Paul Skeens.

Speaker 3 Great speech last night.

Speaker 1 Can we play it?

Speaker 1 He was. Yeah, I don't want to.

Speaker 5 Is it going to take too long?

Speaker 1 It probably will.

Speaker 3 Max is really bad at this. Notice the speech goes on for a while.

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought you meant Max pulling it up.

Speaker 3 No, it's I don't know if we have memory on the SD card.

Speaker 5 But yeah, really hard felt.

Speaker 1 Oh, we don't have sound again. Oh, wait.
Hit the sound thing. Yeah, there you go, producer.
Yep. I was waiting for a good time for you to start playing it, guy.
Okay, guy, guy. Yeah, come on, guy.

Speaker 1 What does this honor mean to you right now?

Speaker 1 This is cool.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 He crushed it. So good.
This is cool.

Speaker 1 There's no way to say. You know what? That was cool.
It was cool. And what more do you need to say? Yeah, this is cool.

Speaker 3 We don't need victory speeches where guys get up there and they misuse the word humble a million times. Like, every single award show, it's literally them sucking your dick.
A God's dick.

Speaker 3 And giving you an award for being great and being better than everybody else.

Speaker 3 And then you get behind the microphone and you're like, yeah, now that you guys have all told me how great I am, the first word that comes to mind is humble. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the meme of Paul Skeens winning the rookie of the year and Paul Skeens sitting in a fire truck. He's so much happier to be in a fire truck.
But

Speaker 1 that's what fire trucks do to people. Yeah.
Fire trucks are fucking cool.

Speaker 5 So did you hit Skubel?

Speaker 5 Is that not what this wins the awards?

Speaker 1 They draw the whole thing out. So tonight, if you're listening to this, tonight,

Speaker 1 Terek Skubel will win the AL Cy Young. What is it, like the 12 Days of Christmas? It's crazy.

Speaker 1 I've been waiting for this forever. Shout out the AWL.
I got to track him down, who handed me an envelope

Speaker 1 when we were in Detroit for the draft. And

Speaker 1 he handed it to me, walked away, opened it, and said, take Tarek Skubel plus 400 to win the Cy Young.

Speaker 3 It's fucking great. Why doesn't Major League Baseball do this in the middle of the playoffs?

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 3 Or before the playoffs start.

Speaker 5 Or just do, like, I or do it all in one night.

Speaker 3 There was like Major League Baseball in California. Yeah.
It's the same thing that they have going on.

Speaker 3 They're like counting all the baseball writers' signatures and matching them up to make sure the mail-in palettes are legit.

Speaker 1 There was a, I want to say there was some type of event going on in Vegas with all the baseball players. Why didn't they just do all the announcements then?

Speaker 1 It makes no sense. It makes no sense.
Doesn't. So, yeah, shout out that AWL.
I got to find it. I got to find the original tweet.
Just been sitting there for six months, but he nailed it.

Speaker 1 Imagine if he doesn't win.

Speaker 3 I mean, you've jinxed this as much as anyone.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 he was minus 2,000 the last time you could bet on it.

Speaker 3 He has to win it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That would be insane if he didn't win it.

Speaker 3 I would be like voter fraud. This is unjinxable.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What are you? I mean, this is just.
You're Gucci. Oh, shut up.

Speaker 1 I hate that you just did that. Yeah, his last odds were minus 5,802.
Is that right?

Speaker 3 Is that possible? Would they take

Speaker 1 bets on that? I mean, if he loses, there's someone in MLB's out to get me. You know what?

Speaker 3 I might fucking load up and see if I can just make some quick money on minus 5,000.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 We're giving that out. I'm giving that out as an official pick.

Speaker 1 That's my young pick.

Speaker 3 An official pick. How much money can I deposit into the responsibly?

Speaker 1 I don't think it's actually. I don't think it's up anymore.

Speaker 3 I'm just going to see. Hank, can you try to pull those odds up? Yes, I'm up.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 But let the record show I would have endorsed that pick.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 My hot seat is the Utah Hockey Club.

Speaker 1 You pieces of shit.

Speaker 3 You don't even have a fucking name. What kind of professional sports organization goes an entire season just naming themselves after the sport?

Speaker 3 Alexander Vechkin was taken out by a dirty knee-to-knee hit last night. Oh, after scoring two goals, getting within 27 goals of tying Wayne Gretzky's all-time record,

Speaker 3 excuse me, 26 of tying the record, 27 of passing the all-time goals record. And he was on the best streak of his life, the way that Ovi started the season out.

Speaker 3 39 years old, top goal scorer in the NHL. The caps are on fire right now, and Ovi is just insane.
And how many.

Speaker 1 So is he hurt?

Speaker 3 Yeah, they said week to week.

Speaker 3 Lower leg injury.

Speaker 3 I looked at every single online Twitter doctor out there and they came to the conclusion probably a torn MCL or a sprained MCL, which is the same thing depending on what grade the sprain is.

Speaker 3 So he's week to week now, which probably means he'll be out for, I don't know, three weeks. But Ovie's different.
Russian machine never break. That was his famous quote when they asked him

Speaker 3 how he's been able to stay healthy throughout his career.

Speaker 3 So I'm i'm just going to hope and pray that whatever putin's got left in the vault he can send over just to inject it directly into ovi's knee the that's the worst too because you can never figure out what a hockey injury is no labor

Speaker 1 just no they will give no details nothing you can't even see like when when a guy gets hit he's got so many pads on that you can't you know where we zoom in on like a football player or basketball player like oh that's exactly what it was you just have no idea yeah and then i was watching right afterwards uh he goes back on the ice to try to skate on it, see if he can hit it.

Speaker 3 You're hockey tough. And you're hockey tough.
And it looks like he's skating around, but in reality, he's just like barely touching one leg down. And I'm like, oh, he can skate.

Speaker 3 No, you forget that they're wearing ice skates and so they can just glide on the other leg. Shit.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, it's not good. Bad for hockey, I would say.
Yeah, I'd agree. I had done the math on this last night when he was on his tear.

Speaker 3 And on this pace, you know when he would have broken Wayne Gretzky's record? When? It would have been at Edmonton.

Speaker 3 Felt like that was set up.

Speaker 1 And he was going to break it in.

Speaker 5 You're talking about this like two goals a game pace that he's been?

Speaker 3 No, no, I took my own. I did my own pay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, no, but like.

Speaker 3 I did my own pace. I saw, I saw, yeah, I saw your tweet and I was like, that.

Speaker 1 Did you start at Edmonton and work your way back?

Speaker 3 No, I did. I did that my second time to see if I could like increase the pace or decrease the pace.

Speaker 5 It was like, Will only break the record this year. That'd be crazy.
And PFT was like, January 21st.

Speaker 3 My pace that I had him on had him scoring, I think it was like 0.75 goals per game. Okay.
Which is taken, it's not as good of a pace as he's been on.

Speaker 3 So at that pace, he would have broken it at Edmonton. Right now, I don't know if he's going to break it this season, which it stinks to maybe have to wait another year for this.
And people forget,

Speaker 3 Ovie lost a full year to the first lockout, and then I think he lost like 50 games to the second lockout. Plus COVID lost games to that too.

Speaker 3 So he's actually, he is on pace right now to break Gretzky's record in fewer games than Gretzky played in, which is kind of crazy. That is crazy.
Ovi's been so much fun to watch his entire career.

Speaker 3 He was like the one bright light that DC Sports had for a very long time. So I've been counting down to this for like the last seven years once it was theoretically possible.

Speaker 3 So it stinks that those bastards in Utah

Speaker 3 sent a hit out.

Speaker 3 Gretzky's got shooters. I wouldn't be surprised if Gretzky told Biz, like, hey, can you get on the horn with some of the guys that are up in Utah?

Speaker 3 I know you know a lot of them from your time in Arizona. Could you have I blame Biz?

Speaker 1 This is on.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 3 Dirty guy. Fuck this.

Speaker 3 My other hot seat is Netflix because they're under a lot of pressure right now from the NFL to make sure that they don't fuck up the Christmas Day stream like they did the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight.

Speaker 1 Antonio Brown could save their ass. How? He live streamed from his phone the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight, and he had 7 million people watching.

Speaker 3 It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 He's taking a little pressure off him.

Speaker 3 So he was live streaming from his Netflix film.

Speaker 1 No, I think he was in the arena.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he was just live streaming.

Speaker 1 He was just doing the real board. I love that.
7 million people were watching. I love that.

Speaker 3 Did Antonio Brown have something to do with the roof panels falling off?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 Wouldn't surprise me. No.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so Netflix is in trouble because Christmas Day with the Beyonce concert at halftime.

Speaker 3 Probably going to have more viewers, I think, than the Jake Paul. It's going to be close because that fight did numbers.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's going to be close. I don't know.

Speaker 1 What was it? 60 million was the total they were watching. So it might not be.

Speaker 1 Average NFL game is what, 20 million?

Speaker 3 I feel like this fight was like 34, 36 million.

Speaker 1 But I don't know what that total was. I think it was more than that.

Speaker 5 I think it was

Speaker 1 60 as well. Either way, Netflix got to figure out.
The numbers up. Yeah, they absolutely can.

Speaker 3 And I guess that would be cool throwing NBA for Christmas Day. Oh, it's a good thing.

Speaker 3 Might be getting more ratings.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 cocked. No, people would rather watch the wheel spinning.

Speaker 3 The wheel spinning? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I mean, how are you going to compete with Beyonce? Although, the. Oh, no, that's Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 No, it's Steelers, Chiefs.

Speaker 5 The Thanksgiving games suck.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 One of them sucks. One of them sucks.
Which one's the Packers Dolphins? The Packers Dolphins. It's pretty good.
I guess. Yeah.
But yeah. But the other ones suck.

Speaker 3 Hypothetically.

Speaker 1 Bears Lions.

Speaker 3 Sucks. Hypothetically, if the stream was not working on Netflix on Christmas Day, let's say 12 o'clock Central Time,

Speaker 3 that's when you're supposed to start. We tune in, we start to watch.
It doesn't work for anybody.

Speaker 3 Does the NFL just delay the game until it can get broadcast? Or do they play it?

Speaker 5 No, because in those, no, but in those situations, the tech guys are like, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, all business Pete is sitting there being like, it's fine.

Speaker 1 I don't see any issues. People are saying that it's fine.

Speaker 3 I can get it on my phone right here in the the stadium. Yeah.
Like, seriously, that would be an interesting problem for the NFL to have. I think that they would delay the game.

Speaker 3 I think they would delay it as long as it took to get it broadcast, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because you can't play a football game and not have it be on TV.

Speaker 1 I'd agree.

Speaker 1 I'd agree. I question.

Speaker 1 Why can't they just

Speaker 1 get

Speaker 1 the Amazon guys and just be like, hey, help us?

Speaker 1 Yeah, just do the, we'll pay you. Bezos ain't like that.

Speaker 1 Why would Bezos help Peacock or why would Bezos help Netflix? Bezos ain't like that. You just pay them.

Speaker 1 They're all different production teams. That's true.
Just get a bigger router.

Speaker 1 Why no?

Speaker 5 Because Bezos wanted this game. It's like they competed.
Netflix won the rights to Christmas.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 5 we cucked you. We've got these rights, but now actually we need your help.
Yeah. And they're going to be like, sure.

Speaker 3 They're going to be a suck by dick.

Speaker 1 I feel like there's got to be like...

Speaker 3 a different production team that can put this server I don't know that it's the production team I think it's the server's infrastructure They need a bigger router.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right.

Speaker 1 They need a bigger router.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I think Amazon would be like, no, absolutely.
Amazon would be a good person. Like, fuck you for even asking us that question.

Speaker 1 Amazon has all the servers.

Speaker 1 Do you think Pete could do it? No.

Speaker 1 Absolutely not. If he had the servers.
Yeah, I guess if he had the servers. I feel like Pete could do it.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 1 No. It's just it's servers.
It's servers. Pete, I want you to know that I think that you could do it.
I think Pete. With no issues? No issues.

Speaker 1 Also, can we pug and chain some computers?

Speaker 3 Speak could definitely do it.

Speaker 1 Everyone tweet all business, Pete, when you're listening to this and say Pug and Shane need to have Twitter. They have

Speaker 1 no, they don't have the desktops.

Speaker 1 They keep yelling at me to get the desktops.

Speaker 5 I know. I know.

Speaker 1 And Pete also, I think Pete has some free month trials for Netflix. So if anyone wants it for the game, tweet him and ask for a code.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Netflix codes. Yeah.
I like how Hank said that Netflix bought the rights to Christmas. They did.
Christmas is owned by Netflix.

Speaker 1 They did. The handle is at AllBusiness Pete.

Speaker 1 At AllBusiness Pete. Tweet him.
Do you think,

Speaker 3 I mean, the craziest part about what Netflix did to Christmas and the NBA is that they put it on their own app where you can't even flip back and forth to the NBA games. It takes you 30 seconds.

Speaker 1 When the people with multiple TVs get a nice win. Yep.
Get a nice win.

Speaker 1 Okay, your cool throne?

Speaker 3 My cool throne is the U.S.

Speaker 3 men's national team and their new coach, Pochettino, because he beat Jamaica 4-2 in some tournament that I always forget the name of involving the words Nations League, CONCACAF, Champions Tournament.

Speaker 3 So they won 4-2 with Burhalter in the stands.

Speaker 3 They made Burhalter go out and watch the game, cucked him. He sat in a little cuck chair in the corner and watched Pepe and

Speaker 3 Pusilich dominate, just crushed Jamaica.

Speaker 1 Is

Speaker 1 not to get political, but

Speaker 1 the Trump celebration is pretty fun. How the guy, everyone's doing it.
Is Pulisich getting under fire? He did it. I don't think he's getting.

Speaker 3 I don't know if he's getting under fire. I've seen more people saying, like, what will it's going to be fun to watch Libs freak out about?

Speaker 3 I think it's just a fun dance to do.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you just do this. You just do the golf swing.
Anyone can do it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so they won 4-2 against Jamaica, which leads us to a fun fact that now the U.S.

Speaker 3 men's national team, and in in fact, Greg Berhalter himself, who was fired in July of this year, he's got more wins in ATT Stadium this year than Mike McCarthy and the Dallas Cowboys do.

Speaker 1 Wow. Wait,

Speaker 3 who does? Greg Berhalter, the fire,

Speaker 3 has more wins.

Speaker 1 But that wasn't the game, obviously, last night because they were playing football.

Speaker 3 They were playing football last night.

Speaker 1 So he had already had that.

Speaker 3 He already has those wins, even though he got fired in July. Got it.
Mike McCarthy will be fired, doesn't have as many wins, even though he plays many more games. That is a fun fact.

Speaker 3 I thought that was a fun fact. Very fun fact.

Speaker 1 All right, my hot seat is: well, we're going to talk about it with Pat Bev, but I feel like we kind of glossed over it. This Tyrese Maxie, Joel Embiid thing feels for real.

Speaker 5 What happened?

Speaker 1 So, Tyrese Maxie called out Joel Mbi in a meeting and said that he's late and disrespectful to everyone. I didn't realize that this is just like a well-known fact that he's always done this.

Speaker 1 There was a book written, what, in 2015, where everyone was like, Joe Mbiat is just a terror to work with.

Speaker 1 Feels like things are bad right now. Maxie and Embiid are friends.
They challenge each other often.

Speaker 3 What does that mean?

Speaker 1 Apparently, this is a problem with a constructive meeting.

Speaker 3 What does that mean that they challenge each other?

Speaker 5 What about the 2017 comments?

Speaker 1 How many times did you practice this speech in the mirror before you sat down? Zero times. That's a that's zero times.
That's fake. Maxie and Embiid are friends.
They challenge each other.

Speaker 1 You had that ready to go. No, I mean, that's just a fact.

Speaker 5 What about the allegations from the past?

Speaker 1 What were the allegations from the past, Hank?

Speaker 5 That he showed up late and that he was a terror to the whole staff.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you say 2017 or whatever that book is who gives up? Whatever the book is. I think 2017.

Speaker 3 I think that was maybe his rookie year. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It was when Brown was the coach and he was mad because all of his assistants came up to him and they're like, hey, we have to have an intervention with you because Joell is such a huge asshole to everyone

Speaker 3 that we needed to escalate this to the head coach.

Speaker 1 Wait, you say two. two? Is it what's it? What's the date? We're worried about something 10 years ago?

Speaker 5 Nearly every member of the Sixers staff basketball was awaiting him. Why are we here? Brown asked.
He knew the meeting was about Embiid, but didn't understand.

Speaker 5 One of the assistant coaches stood up and said, Coach, we're here because there's a problem with Joel. He's disrespected just about everyone in this room and has become a major distraction.

Speaker 1 You want to say something about when you were 18, Franny Lydon?

Speaker 5 No. I'm just saying, like, oh,

Speaker 1 if

Speaker 5 it was still a problem 10 years later, then, yeah, it's probably like a bad sign.

Speaker 3 Yeah, if Hank was still on the bottom.

Speaker 1 That's not the problem. Like, him showing up late isn't, that's different.

Speaker 3 You think that's not a problem?

Speaker 1 No, that.

Speaker 1 What about the people who... Mark Sim said it wasn't a problem.
But what about the people who say that this is maybe the first time Embiid's ever been challenged?

Speaker 1 It said in the thing that Maxie and Embiid

Speaker 1 go back and forth at each other because there's a mutual respect and friendship. Sounds like there's not a lot of respect for Embiid.

Speaker 1 You know what? You guys, this is where the national podcast thing turns disgusting. All right, you just turn into the node.
Okay, all right, all right, all right, fine.

Speaker 3 All right, new segment, alert, Hank, dog.

Speaker 1 Podcast thing turns disgusting.

Speaker 3 Okay, new segment, regional podcast.

Speaker 1 Philly. Philly.
All right, Philly. Hey, hey, welcome back to Locked on Sixers.
Listen to us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, where we've won two games and we're about to be losing to the Wizards and the Standings, but like Joel's done so much for our city, so you know,

Speaker 1 we've got to give him some respect.

Speaker 3 I think it's disgusting what some of the reporters in the locker room are trying to to do to divide us.

Speaker 3 We need to be unified, and we're a great team. I don't think that we change anything.
We don't change anything except maybe we keep the fucking reporters out of the locker room.

Speaker 1 Well, respectfully, Anthony and Gino, I disagree. Joel and Biad's a bum.
He's a bum. He doesn't respect the hardworking people of Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 I get up every morning, 5 o'clock. Think about the construction workers and the trash workers.
And Joel and B can't be there at 10 a.m. I go

Speaker 1 around.

Speaker 3 The problems with Joel started to get much more clear when Nick fucking Siriani walked through this door and he took his paws and put them all over a city and fucked it all up.

Speaker 5 He can't win a second-round matchup, but he can give us an MVP. So, you know, you got to think about what he's given to us.

Speaker 1 No, that's loser talk, Anthony. All right, how'd we do? Great, really good.

Speaker 1 Those are reaching podcasts.

Speaker 1 I fucking love the Fluffy Eagles. It feels like a problem.

Speaker 1 and 11 and this feels like a problem. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's November 19th.

Speaker 3 Okay, so here's Max. Here's where I think 76 is hard.

Speaker 3 Here's where I think the real problem is.

Speaker 3 I'm sure that conversations like this happen a lot in NBA locker rooms, and we never hear about them. I'm sure they're commonplace.

Speaker 1 I agree with.

Speaker 3 But the fact that it got out,

Speaker 3 that tells me that there's something there.

Speaker 1 Tells me that people are sick of his shit because usually it wouldn't get out if Joe and Beat has maybe not been the best teammate, shows up late, whatever the story is.

Speaker 1 But if he's playing well and the team's doing well, that stuff never gets out. He's playing poorly.
The team's playing poorly. Now the cracks start happening.

Speaker 5 He's not even playing.

Speaker 1 There's a mole. There's a mole in the organization, which, you know, we got to sniff out because that should never have gotten out.
That's correct.

Speaker 1 But what if this is the turning point of the whole season? And then we started

Speaker 1 going back to this moment.

Speaker 3 This is a strange turning point.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or

Speaker 1 tank Cooper Flag. Oh, no.
No, you're right. No,

Speaker 3 you don't get to say that. You don't get to say that because when I said that I want Cooper Flag and I'm projecting Cooper Flag,

Speaker 3 you said we are out. You said the Sixers are out.

Speaker 1 That's true. I'm still in.
Big cat's in. Big Cat could get him.
I'm out.

Speaker 3 You said just

Speaker 1 out. Yeah, but I say now I'm back in.
No, no, you can't do that. You're out too thick.
Nope, I'm back in.

Speaker 1 That's illegal. That's illegal.
I didn't realize I did that. Yeah, you did.
You did.

Speaker 5 I said I was out too. I'm a man of my word.

Speaker 1 I will hang out. Thank you, Hank.
Man of honor.

Speaker 3 What's crazy is that you're tied with the wizards right now.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 it all doesn't fucking matter. What point will it matter? Christmas.
So, how many wins do you have to have by Christmas? How many times have we said on this show that?

Speaker 1 But I want to hold you to this.

Speaker 1 If this wasn't the Sixers, no one would care. Okay, I agreed.
We would not be talking about it.

Speaker 5 Okay, if it was the Celtics, no. If it was the Celtics, we would absolutely talk about it.
So, lie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Sixers, Celtics, That's it.

Speaker 3 Lie, but Max, that's because you have these players in her, like, the narrative that's been around them.

Speaker 1 The Bucks fucking suck. We don't talk about that at all.
I have, I've brought it up multiple times. Yeah, I mean, what are we going to say?

Speaker 1 There's a mole in the bowls of the wizard. Like, we suck.
Nobody would care about that. Yeah, all right.
So, you have 13 games. Christmas is your 13th game.

Speaker 1 How many wins do you have to have to be like, this is a problem?

Speaker 1 There's 13 games until Christmas.

Speaker 3 I think you got to get to 10 wins.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 10 sounds way, like, way too many. Let me see the schedule.
So you got to go 10 wins, and

Speaker 1 you got to go 8 and 5. That's not that hard.
8 and 5 sounds like hard. 8 and 5? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Find me 8 wins. 10 wins.

Speaker 1 I can find you some.

Speaker 1 Orlando twice without Powell. There you go.
Chicago, Charlotte, twice. Detroit.
Yeah, there's eight. Yes, 10 wins.
10 wins. Gotcha.
10 wins by Christmas. Let's go.
10 wins by Christmas.

Speaker 1 We're not allowed to talk about this until Christmas. All right, but you have to get to 10 wins.
Yep.

Speaker 3 What if Yabu's the mole?

Speaker 1 This never happened with Beatball Paul?

Speaker 3 All right, so Max, there's been a new wrinkle

Speaker 3 to the 76ers drama, to the saga.

Speaker 1 I want a saga. What's the saga?

Speaker 3 We're doing this later on at night, 9.37.

Speaker 3 Somebody thinks that they found a leak of who reported this or of who gave the scoop away.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 This is from Raptor Moments. Wait, Max, Max.
Max.

Speaker 1 Let me finish.

Speaker 3 All right, this is from Raptor Moments.

Speaker 1 This is a stretch.

Speaker 8 Raptor Moments?

Speaker 5 Yeah, Raptor Moments are.

Speaker 1 Raptor Moments

Speaker 1 is this source?

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, just hear me out here, okay? Wait, that's.

Speaker 1 This is.

Speaker 1 What's the name of the Twitter?

Speaker 3 This is a Raptor Moments.

Speaker 1 This is a meme burner. Yeah.
What? Huh?

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay, well, just wait.
Yeah, I'll hear it. Okay.
I'll hear the wrinkle.

Speaker 3 All right, so the quote from the article was: Tyrese loves the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room, a person involved in the meeting told ESPN.

Speaker 3 If you go back to the Raptors over the last couple years, Nick Nurse is very fond of using the phrase elephant in the room. And he's done it at least three times.

Speaker 3 A common phrase. A common phrase.

Speaker 1 This is an insane addition. This is like Tatum stealing people's quotes in the quotes are all

Speaker 1 fucking go. Be like,

Speaker 1 what's his name for saying

Speaker 1 elephant in the room?

Speaker 3 Yeah, for saying an elephant in the room.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 everyone says an elephant in the room.

Speaker 1 That's like every report ever.

Speaker 3 It's Raptor Moments.

Speaker 1 I believe Raptor Moments. 2000 for the moment.
Wait, Raptor Moments isn't actually reporting anything. They're literally just being like, look,

Speaker 1 this phrase was used and this phrase was used.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Raptor Moments is connecting the dots.

Speaker 1 Right, but he's not.

Speaker 1 You can't believe Raptor Moments because Raptor Moments doesn't have any actual knowledge of this.

Speaker 3 No actual knowledge whatsoever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's just saying, oh,

Speaker 1 Nick Nurse has said elephant in the room and this person did.

Speaker 1 So Nick Nurse is the...

Speaker 5 I like the thought. I do like to believe that Nick Nurse

Speaker 5 coach is snitching on his players-only meetings. That is a funny thought.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So I'm going to believe it.

Speaker 1 It also wasn't a players-only meeting.

Speaker 3 Another fan pointed out that in a past NBC Sports Philadelphia story, it's explained that Nick Nurse said on Danny Green's podcast in 2018 that he had a mini elephant on his desk in Toronto, which metaphorically helped him prevent obvious concerns with the team from growing before being addressed.

Speaker 3 Nick Nurse loves the phrase elephant in the room.

Speaker 1 Everyone uses that phrase. He had a fucking elephant in the elephant.
When there's an elephant in the room, you use the phrase elephant in the room. He's right about that.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but if you walk into Nick Nurse's office, there's always an elephant in the room.

Speaker 3 He has an elephant on his desk to remind himself of elephants in rooms.

Speaker 1 Have you ever used the phrase elephant in the room?

Speaker 3 Not to record it.

Speaker 1 Wait, what was the original quote?

Speaker 1 The original quote was the most standard quote of all time.

Speaker 3 I'll read the quote. Tyrese loves the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room.
He was talking about how Tyrese loves Joel.

Speaker 1 Wait, but who wrote that?

Speaker 3 That was in the ESPN report.

Speaker 1 So that wasn't even a quote.

Speaker 3 What? What? No, that is a quote.

Speaker 1 The direct quote is from the Ravens.

Speaker 1 Tyrese loves the big fella.

Speaker 1 But this is the elephant. No, no, Max, you don't know how to read quotation marks.

Speaker 3 Tyrese is the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room, is the quote.

Speaker 1 From an anonymous source.

Speaker 3 An anonymous source with the Sixers. Max, you're looking at an apostrophe.
That's just the one mark. The quotation mark is two.

Speaker 1 Who gives a fuck? Everybody says elephant in the room when there's an elephant in the room.

Speaker 3 I mean, it seems like Nick Nurse is obsessed with elephants.

Speaker 5 Who else would the source be then, Max? Because it seems like we got one good lead and nothing else. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a great lead. Hey.

Speaker 1 Okay, here's the only pushback I'd have is wasn't part of the report that the Sixers players were like, hey, Nick Nurse, you need to coach us harder? Why would Nick Nurse

Speaker 1 leak

Speaker 1 that his players are mad at him?

Speaker 5 Because he also, in that report, they said that in turn, the players have to pay more attention to detail.

Speaker 1 Okay, so maybe it is Nick Nurse.

Speaker 3 So maybe Nick Nurse in the meeting was like, that's fair criticism. I'm going to hear you.

Speaker 3 But can I ask you to also

Speaker 3 you buy in as well, and we'll meet in the middle. Good coaching.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm on team. Yeah, it was Nick Noso.

Speaker 1 This is a stupid.

Speaker 3 I mean, Max, I think everybody agrees to persuade me.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine if memes got this got this news? We should stop listening to reports.

Speaker 1 We just went from the athletic to Raptors Moment.

Speaker 3 Raptors moments with an S.

Speaker 1 We should stop listening to reports. It's fucking us up.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 Back to whatever we were talking about.

Speaker 1 Okay, my cool throne is

Speaker 1 Kentucky basketball because I don't know if you guys saw, but John Calpaperi

Speaker 1 is now begging fans to show up to basketball games at Arkansas. And he was like, if you don't want to come to the game, give us the tickets back.
We'll find someone who can come to the game.

Speaker 1 And they have also not looked great in the start of their season. And then on the other side, Kentucky, there's a clip going around that's awesome.

Speaker 1 It's Mark Pope coaching in the huddle, essentially telling his players exactly what Cooper Flagg is going to do on that last possession against Duke and being like, this is how we're going to defend it.

Speaker 1 He's going to spin.

Speaker 1 We're going to send the extra man, two hands, take the ball away. And then it's like a cut up where he's saying it, and it happens exactly like that.

Speaker 1 Something that Kentucky basketball is missing, that in-game coaching. So, Kentucky basketball, good for you guys.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's an awesome clip. It makes you think that Mark Pope is going to be a great coach.
Yeah. But we are very easily sold on clips like that.

Speaker 1 But I also saw, like, Cal in the red looks weird, and then him being like, please come to the games.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Not a great look. They are 3-1.
They lost to Baylor, who's a pretty good team.

Speaker 1 But they also have kind of like, they had a couple games where they were struggling a little bit with lesser competition.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's not. I would say so far.
Kentucky won this trade. Yes.
For sure. And also, Kentucky, this also is probably because they were playing against Duke, but Kentucky seemed like a fun team.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Like an easy, fun team to root for. I'm sure that once they start becoming more Kentucky, then they will be easier to hate.
But going up against Duke and beating Duke in that way,

Speaker 3 it made me feel things for the University of Kentucky.

Speaker 1 I got a little soft spot for Kentucky. I got no problem with Kentucky.
And it's probably because it's 2015. What? I guess you beat them.
Yeah, right. Like, it's just.
They beat you.

Speaker 1 I know, but it's also like that was, I mean, they were undefeated that season.

Speaker 1 And I love Matt Jones and those guys. So, yeah, I want Kentucky basketball to be good.
I might be an honorary member of Big Blue Nation. I don't know.
Mark Pope. I mean, very loosely, honorary.

Speaker 1 Meaning, like, I'd put a future on him and be like, go Kentucky. And then they lost.
He'd be like, oh, well, I lose it anyway.

Speaker 3 I like Kentucky.

Speaker 3 You're right. The sport is better when Kentucky basketball is good.

Speaker 3 I just, I will say and repeat whatever propaganda Kentucky fans want me to do if it means that I get one step closer to at one point becoming a colonel.

Speaker 3 Being a Kentucky colonel.

Speaker 1 That'd be sick. That would be sick.

Speaker 1 Okay, we have more basketball talk with our guy, Pat Bett.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our co-worker, very special guest, recurring guest. It is Pat Bev, Patrick Beverly,

Speaker 1 back from Israel for a short stint.

Speaker 1 I thought World War III had broken out when you walked into the gambling cave on Sunday, unannounced. Okay.
I was like, why is Pat here? Why is he like, I thought he was in the middle of the season.

Speaker 1 So you have a break. You have a break.
And you are how how far into the season in Israel?

Speaker 1 About two and a half months in. And how's the team playing? Phenomenal.
Number one team in Israel right now. Number one team? Number one team, yeah.
How are you playing? Phenomenal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've been fucking hooping. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 How's the game different over? Like, is it when you go over there, because you played obviously in different leagues around the world before, but you go over there, is it,

Speaker 1 I don't want to say easier, but is it like. It's easier, but like

Speaker 1 I get everyone's best shot. Yeah, you know, because they're like this is an NBA player, right? Right.
Every American, every coach, every import,

Speaker 1 every import from another country, everywhere I go, it's

Speaker 1 you know, they beat us, you know, oh, we beat NBA, NBA team, we're NBA players, so I'm getting everyone's best shot. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you know, but you know, that's what I asked for, so it's perfect.

Speaker 3 Yeah, how are the fans over there?

Speaker 1 Phenomenal. I mean, like, you got to think, I'm thinking, like

Speaker 1 8,000 to nine thousand a game. Um, it's a lot of smoke with Israel and other countries.
So, like, we can't go play in Turkey. We have to meet at a mutual site.
So, we'll meet in Serbia.

Speaker 1 Teams that it's smoke with, we always meet in a mutual site. All our Israeli games are played in Israel, of course, but our European League games, the games that it's

Speaker 1 you know, a Greek team or a Turkish team or, you know, any team like that, or it's kind of smoke, we all, we always meet at a mutual site.

Speaker 3 So, what what about the game? How does the game translate to the Israeli league?

Speaker 6 So first, the minutes are short.

Speaker 1 We play 10 minutes a quarter. Okay.
That's timing-wise.

Speaker 1 It's no

Speaker 1 defense of three seconds. So you can just stand in the panel.
Probably you just park out there. Para.
Yeah. All day.
Right. So it's really beat your man to activate the big guy to make the next play.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right.
So you don't see a ton of guys scoring, I don't know, 20s and 25 points a game over there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 you know so he's there's a guy just standing under the hoop basically just squatting uh all the shots all day that's crazy yeah living literally living in the paint crowded paint making you you know make the right play consistently every single time and do you do you uh you haven't gotten a technical yet is that because of the language barrier because i'm sure you've said things that should get you a technical yeah i i just been i don't know it's it's wild when i play when i had a ball a lot i'm so focused on like the game and focused on like okay trying to win the game trying to do small things to win a game that I'm not over dramatic or over like, I wouldn't say emotional, but just

Speaker 1 in character. Yeah.
In the NBA, I can do that. I can get away with that a lot.
And they're quicker to give me a tech also. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Is it more like you're also like in the NBA, there's the Pat Bev role where you come in, you fuck shit up.

Speaker 3 You're kind of a pest. You make things a problem for them.
You get in their heads.

Speaker 3 And then I would imagine, maybe I'm wrong, but

Speaker 3 in your current setup, you get in the game because you are expected to be like a leader. and I don't know how ball-dominant you are, but you're like one of the best players.
It's a star.

Speaker 1 Over there, yeah, the superstar.

Speaker 3 So, you can't be getting texted.

Speaker 1 You can be getting texted. You can't have that type of energy, you know.
So, it's all for me, it's okay, I'm seeing double teams every night. I'm seeing triple teams every night.
I'm seeing

Speaker 1 the best defenders on me every night. I'm seeing I'm dribbling the ISO.
I see guys running to me. Oh, I got to make extra plays.
So, it's just a different roll-up.

Speaker 3 So, people that are saying, like, Pat Bev got soft because he's not getting technicals, what would you say to those people?

Speaker 1 I mean, my numbers are getting better offensively, so I guess it's working. More focused, yeah, more locked in.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And I can get away with it in the NBA because, you know, NBA, the refs, they know me, they know me. I'm an ill-boy motherfucker.
I'm going to say, yeah, he's bum ass. He can't fucking shoot.
Fuck you.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm going to say that type of shit in the game, which is, they're going to give me a tag, but they're not going to really kick me out. You know, you can work your way with the refs in NBA.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So I got a tough question for you. Two tough questions.
Okay. Two.

Speaker 1 First tough question is:

Speaker 1 the way last year ended,

Speaker 1 not the best because obviously you guys got bounced. You threw a pass to someone.
Like, I look ready for a pass.

Speaker 1 He's wearing a uniform. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You were just trying to get some numbers up on the pod afterwards. No.
You were just asking people to subscribe. No.

Speaker 1 Do you think any of that, like, how did it work in the offseason when you were trying to figure out where you're going to play? Was that part of it at all, or was it you wanted to go play in Israel?

Speaker 1 I don't think it helped. It didn't help.
Right. Yeah.
I'm going to say that. I don't think it helped.
But we still had, what, two, three offers for the minimum. Yeah.
You know.

Speaker 1 So it wasn't like a blackballed situation. No, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I had offers. See, I got offers now to come back.

Speaker 1 Are we looking at those offers? I am. I mean, the goal, I would assume, is to eventually get back in the NBA, correct? I mean, not back in the NBA.

Speaker 1 When you're out of it, right, and you see teams that you used to be on kind of struggling a little bit. All of your teams.
Yeah. And you see that,

Speaker 1 you know, your setup, you know, the stage that you're on and like the big stage. Yeah.
Like being away from there's no other fucking stage like that. Yeah.
Like no other stage.

Speaker 1 And I don't give a fuck. And I'm not even talking about a playoff game or a cup game or like a Eastern Conference game or a championship game.

Speaker 1 I'm absolutely talking about fucking game 16 of the season. You're on the fucking biggest show in the world.
Right. There's no other place like that.

Speaker 1 So like organically as a kid, NBA dream, I feel the need of like, damn, I want that. I want to go back there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the one thing I love about you is you have the utmost confidence at all times. That's why you're, that's why you've made it so far in the NBA.
That's why you've played for so long.

Speaker 1 Was how last season ended, was it humbling at all where it's like, okay, Pat, like, just take a step back. Maybe got a, you know, like, was there any of that? No.
Okay.

Speaker 1 In my mind, you got to think of my mind. I'm like, shit, I just literally want a playoff game by myself.
I ain't going to say by myself, but, you know, the.

Speaker 1 you got everyone injured on the on the box, yeah, yeah, and then I had to step up, and then we win an elimination game that, you know, a lot of people counted us out for.

Speaker 1 So, in my mind, and you know, with the you know, different games in Boston, and, you know, the freedom I had with Nick Nurse and the freedom I had with the Bucs, like you, for me, that was probably one of my best NBA offensive league years ever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, yeah, so I took it as, okay, cool, I got it, I still got a lot of juice in the tank. I, I take care of my body like a motherfucker, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, I spend a ton on my body each year to be healthy and, you know, prepared for an entire season. So to me, it's like, okay, now I made a ton of money.
I made almost $100 million in the NBA.

Speaker 1 I get to go somewhere else where they're paying me more than the minimum, which, you know, no matter if I had a career year or not, if Russell Westbrook takes minimum, Cal Lowry takes minimum, guess what?

Speaker 1 Pat Bev, you get minimum. Yeah.
That's just how it is. Yeah.
Regardless of my play or a ball getting thrown or whatever the situation be, and I don't think that's fair. That was my issue.

Speaker 1 I worked my ass off. I had better years than all of them motherfuckers.
Why the fuck I'm getting a minimum? Yeah, you know, okay.

Speaker 3 Just a podcaster to podcaster after the game when they ask you to elaborate on what happened. Yeah.
Instead of just right away saying, subscribe to the Pat Bevpod.

Speaker 3 I know you're a great marketer, but instead of saying that right away, why don't you do like a tease?

Speaker 3 You start answering the question and you say, to hear my full thoughts, subscribe to the Pat Bevpod.

Speaker 3 Or you could do a podcast live in person to that reporter, answer the question, but in the middle of your answer, throw in an ad read. Yeah.
So you start talking about what happened and then you say,

Speaker 3 by the way,

Speaker 1 subscribe to betterhelp, betterhelp.com. But mine was

Speaker 1 like originally that was mine throughout since I've had the pod. Yeah, you've been doing that.
That wasn't just a one-off. Yeah, that wasn't.

Speaker 1 I agree with that. Have you thought about maybe instead of saying, are you subscribed to the Pat Bev pod? You can't ask me a question unless you subscribe to the Pat Bev pod.

Speaker 1 If you ask them, are you subscribed to Pardon My Take? Because the answer would probably be yes. So then they can ask you the question.
No, probably not, though.

Speaker 1 Depending on who I'm talking to, that was the NBA crew. I mean, that was the ESPN crew I'm talking to.
Yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 They don't like

Speaker 1 fans.

Speaker 1 They go home and shame. They won't admit it.
They won't admit it. For sure.
Yeah, no, that wasn't.

Speaker 1 I mean, obviously, I think you said it afterwards, like, you should have handled it better, but it wasn't, it did get spun out as, like, I can't believe he said this.

Speaker 1 Like, no, he's been saying it all year. Yeah, but it's like that because we're in media.
Right.

Speaker 1 So anything that, you know, it's frowned upon, I don't know, something done, they go try to make the next thing seem like the worst thing. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I've never, I've never punched anyone, right? I never hit any of my teammates. I never said, fuck you, coach, I'm walking out of practice.

Speaker 1 I've never got kicked out of practice ever since I've been in the NBA. You know what I'm saying? So like my behavior is one thing, but like it's a lot of shit that I haven't done also.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, which, you know, which shows why I've been in the league so long also. Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, there's a reason why

Speaker 3 you keep getting assigned to teams in the NBA is because you're a valuable piece piece and a good teammate for the most part.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And sometimes they get caught up in like the theatrics. But we said at the time, we were like, Pat has been telling every reporter this since I have the podcast.

Speaker 1 Since you had the podcast.

Speaker 3 It's a standard answer for you. I've got an easy question for you.

Speaker 3 And we talked about it a little bit on Sunday when you came in. You're playing overseas in Israel.

Speaker 3 Solve the Mideast crisis.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Solve the

Speaker 1 Middle East crisis. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Let's create peace in the Middle East.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for one, I don't think

Speaker 1 that I can solve it. Okay, good answer.
That's a really good answer. That's the right answer.
That was a really good answer.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 how are you keeping up with the NBA while you're over there? What's the time difference like?

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 oh, shit. So what? My

Speaker 1 3 p.m., it's 7 a.m. here.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the first game, 6 p.m., is probably like 1 o'clock in the morning, my time. Okay.
Right. So not keeping it up with a a ton, but a ton of highlights.

Speaker 1 But now that I'm with DraftKings, shout out to DraftKings.

Speaker 1 It's kind of exciting to kind of be up a couple hours now trying to see scores, trying to see what the fuck gold score wasn't in the first quarter type shit. So yeah, shout out to DraftKings.

Speaker 1 All right, so I got a question about this NBA, the Cavs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They've, I mean, this is running on Wednesday, so they play the Celtics in a few hours, and they might lose that game, but they started undefeated.

Speaker 1 What is it about the Cavs? I mean, Kenny Atkinson is a really good coach. He's my coaching Clippers.
So, yeah, so tell me about Kenny Atkinson. What does he do that makes it?

Speaker 1 Because it feels like the Cavs, last year they were a good team, playoff team, but this is, they're playing out of their mind right now. So when he had,

Speaker 1 first off, Kenny A is a player's coach, right? First off, when you speak about Kenny A, you got to understand this is a coach that crosses every T dots every I. Right.

Speaker 1 When I was there, he wasn't the coach running to go work with Kawhi, Paul, George. He was working with me, Nick Batum, Batum, and Zubach.

Speaker 1 So you can understand this kind of collar of work dealing with the type of players he dealt with. And he was the head of

Speaker 1 the individual performance side.

Speaker 1 So when you see a coach like that, his ability, like, you know, I think he ran our offense, you know, but the way he teached it, the way he taught it, the way he ran it, or the, the, the, the, I don't think I've ever heard him say, I don't know, probably heard him say some curse word, but never at someone, you know, phenomenal guy.

Speaker 1 yeah phenomenal man yeah phenomenal man and i think like if you if you have your coaching is all about your it's never about x and o's there is somebody down that fucking coaching staff got x and o's it's all about

Speaker 1 how hard can your players play for you emotivation yeah right so right you can be a coach that has zero x no's but you have your team run through a motherfucking wall from you that's half the battle right there and that's all coaching is that's all coaching is and the moment you take a player aside and the moment you do something that just you know does not go you know because as a coach you have to think you're a coach, your father figure also.

Speaker 1 That's literally where coaches start from.

Speaker 1 But the moment you cross that line because of money, the moment you cross that line because relationships start letting guys do what they want, that's when you become a bad coach and lose the shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, all the good coaches they coach the same. Obviously, you have your star players, but we're going to coach you the fucking same.
No, you can't be late, or you can't be fucking late.

Speaker 1 That's how you're going to run things. Right.
You know, so if you have more of those, I think the game would change with basketball and with coaching. And that's all you're saying right there.

Speaker 1 How much of the Cavs' success is because of the dancing frog?

Speaker 1 Put me on. I'm not aware.

Speaker 1 So there was in Cleveland, there was a guy in a frog costume that he was dancing in the streets after the Cavs won a couple games, and now they've invited him in and he dances in the arena after they win.

Speaker 1 How important is that if you're a player? Because I feel like that's pretty damn important. Okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, as a player, I probably wouldn't even know that. Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I probably wouldn't even know that as a player.

Speaker 1 From a fan's perspective,

Speaker 1 I would say Kenny Atkinson deserves, I don't know, 20% of the credit. The players, another 20%, the Dancing Frog, 60%.

Speaker 1 Okay. So, like, from a fan, if you come there, Dancing Frog's not there, he's sick.
You're like, we're losing.

Speaker 1 You're going to lose the game. That's the expectation.

Speaker 1 Classic fan. I like that, though.
And give you a little management there. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's like a game within the game type of vibe. Yeah, well, it's also one of those situations where

Speaker 1 every team that has that momentum and they're maybe like on the cusp of a special season, it always feels like there's some little funny story that they start rallying around, whether it's a slogan, a dancing frog.

Speaker 1 We've seen it a million times.

Speaker 3 I'll give 25% credit to George Ngang. Yeah.
Most wins in the NBA since 2020. Yeah.
And

Speaker 1 he can hoop, though. Yeah, he can.
Plays the right way. Yeah.
Plays the right way all the time. Yeah, he can hoop, though.
Yeah, see?

Speaker 1 I'm reading it right now. Jared Allen said, I've been wanting to dance with that frog since I've seen him.
So he was, and then Froggy the Frog finally showed up.

Speaker 3 Wait, his name's Froggy the Frog?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Froggy is here. That's okay.

Speaker 1 Froggy is here. Oh, it's a she.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 Froggy is a she.

Speaker 1 Froggy is here, and there are no plans for her to leave anytime soon. Love that.
City has embraced a dancing frog after the frog wins. I need to understand.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, this is

Speaker 1 Miss Froggy. Yeah.
And the whole city is just embracing the frog. Love that.
I think that's more important than people realize. It's just.

Speaker 1 It's a dancing frog.

Speaker 3 Yeah, do vibes have anything to do with a team success? Like, if a city is having fun?

Speaker 1 Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Like you go like

Speaker 1 a place like Miami. The vibes are always going to be fun, right? But you don't want it to be too fun.
It drains you. Right.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 some of our

Speaker 1 sick game days and sick like,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 the night before the games is like

Speaker 1 Phoenix.

Speaker 1 Where you can have some fun. You can have a nice dinner.
You can go out to a nice bar, but you're not going to be out to, you know, 4 o'clock in the morning, 5 o'clock in the the morning.

Speaker 1 That's a 1.30 type of night.

Speaker 1 But with the same amount of fun, the same adrenaline pumping through your veins, the same vibes going through around, you know, but it gets when you're to a place like New York and it's a lot of distractions and, you know,

Speaker 1 an hour here, hour there. Next thing you know, it's time to go to sleep.
And you're trying to battle with the time of getting rest and not doing things, but keeping routine.

Speaker 1 I think that's when it becomes a problem then. So I got a dumb question.
How often, if you're a player, are you looking at the standings? Are you actually like, okay, where are we at the standings?

Speaker 1 Is it every day, or is it just like

Speaker 1 every five games you look at? Yeah, so every five games will kind of tell you to exactly where you at, where you headed at.

Speaker 1 So, if you're the Sixers right now and you look at the standings and you're 2-11, man, unbelievable. 2-11.
Is that right, Max? Can we get a stat check on that?

Speaker 3 I'll pull it up because I texted to the group last night.

Speaker 1 12 games out of first place, and they've only played 13 games. My question to you all: who do you think they need more? Was it Pape? Yeah, 2-1.
MB, Paul, Georgia, Maxie.

Speaker 1 Maxie's been out. All three of them, I think, they need.
The game that they've won, Maxie's played.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Is the record correct, Maxie?

Speaker 3 That's 2-11.

Speaker 1 That would be 2-11, correct? 2-11.

Speaker 1 That's bad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 At what point in the season are you like, because you've been on some teams that have not been great.

Speaker 1 Is there a moment in the season where you're like, all right, this is kind of what we are?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 You keep fighting. Yeah.
Yeah, you always keep fighting. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 1 I haven't been on like. A 2-11 team.

Speaker 1 Shit. The Lakers.
Oh, yeah. Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, that was bad.
That was brutal.

Speaker 3 Where'd you guys end up that year? I don't know.

Speaker 1 I ended up with the Bulls that year. Yeah.
Yeah. Hell of a run we made, too.
Yes.

Speaker 1 We made a run all the way to losing the playing game. 15-8 since I was there, or 15-9 since I was there.
Yeah. Do you think Jerry Reinsorf special? Lose the play-in game.

Speaker 3 You think the Sixers, they could use a guy like Patrick Beverly?

Speaker 1 Any team, right? Any team.

Speaker 1 and I'm and I'm just no I'm not you know gassing myself but you know my work has been shown in NBA any team spark any team any team it's just I'm I'm you you when you get pat you adapt um

Speaker 1 my per my personality to the team more than anything yeah right so the personality might be I don't know game I don't know 39 and you're playing in fucking Portland and it's cold and it's fucking gray outside right my competitive spirit go feel like game 39 game two, game three of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm catching vibe.
And it rubs off on you.

Speaker 1 My ability to be focused

Speaker 1 and shoot around and treat each game like a championship game. Like that shit rubs off on you.

Speaker 1 And next thing you know, yeah, you're playing 82 games, but you're treating them motherfuckers all like playoff games, too. So the energy is different.
You know,

Speaker 1 the competitive spirit is there more, you know,

Speaker 1 when I'm on a team. Yeah.
And that's the spark because it's a long season and you see that all the time where teams will just kind of take off nights.

Speaker 1 They don't take off a night with Pat Beva on the team. Yeah, I can't.
Yeah. And at the same time, I'm the player also that's still trying to prove myself.
Yeah. So I'm like, okay, fuck it.

Speaker 1 This guy's not playing. Okay, this is my time to come up and show every motherfucker, yeah, I can score it.
Oh, this guy's not playing. Okay, cool.
Let me lock his ass up. So it's always

Speaker 1 an opportunity for me. I always took it as an opportunity to showcase my talents also.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Is there one team that you watch not being in the NBA right now and you still feel like you root for them more, like that was a special team, the Bucs. Yeah, man.

Speaker 3 I saw you, you told Giannis, make your free throws.

Speaker 1 Coach them up. Yeah, that's my dog.
I just

Speaker 1 was there a short time, but like

Speaker 1 when you go to the playoffs with a team, right, and you go through not only the playoffs, but like ups and downs with a team, right?

Speaker 1 And then you go through the playoffs, you go through the ups and downs, then you go through injuries with a team, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, that's everything you can ask for in sports, all summed up in one. And

Speaker 1 to have a chance with that happen all from my time there into the playoffs, it made us, okay, fuck it. No, Giannis, we got to get closer.
We got to get better. Oh, fuck it.
No, Middleton. Oh, fuck it.

Speaker 1 We got to get better. We got to get closer.
Fuck it. No, Dame.
Oh, fuck it. We got to get better.
We got to get closer. It just made you a tight-net-ass family.
Yeah. You know, and then

Speaker 1 you have those opportunities, the playoffs, the guy's not healthy. Everyone's rooting against you.
You're on the road.

Speaker 1 It forces a bond that you don't get from a lot of teams.

Speaker 1 Do you feel, if you're a Pat Bev and you're playing on a team with LeBron or Giannis, do you feel extra pressure being like,

Speaker 1 there's a standard that they're playing at that I have to reach? Yeah, so it was one time I was with the Lakers and

Speaker 1 we were playing in Boston.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I think I just got a tip dunk or I think I just hit a big shot and I'm at the free throw line. I missed a free throw.

Speaker 1 And then Braun gave me a look like, come on, man, make your motherfucking free throw.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, oh, shit.

Speaker 1 you're right. Yeah.
Right. But now I take that.
Like, I think I've only missed three free throws this entire year. And I remember that.

Speaker 1 That was my motivation to, you know what, make your motherfucking free throws.

Speaker 1 That's like the definition of greatness is

Speaker 1 a great player lifts everyone else's skin. So now that's me on my team.
Yeah. I don't give a fuck, man.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck how many free throws you miss one through three, fourth quarter, make your fucking free throws. And do you have that feeling too? Like, say you're playing with Giannis, where

Speaker 1 it's not like Giannis has got us, but I would imagine players play with more confidence knowing Giannis is on your team and not their team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then also on the other end, players play with less confidence when you know you got to go against Giannis. Yeah, right.
You know, and I can make more mistakes, right? Right.

Speaker 1 So my mistakes aren't magnified if Giannis is not out there versus when he is out there. Yeah.
So I can go for steal. I can take a bullshit-ass charge.

Speaker 1 That ref might call charge because of my name, not because of how my footing was. I might take fucked up shot.
I might go offensive rebound when I supposed to go, you know, Giannis got us. Yeah.

Speaker 1 brawn got us but that comes with greatness also yeah you know and i'm learning that on the other end also now that i'm playing what i'm playing at like it's a lot of stuff that my teammates allowed to do that i just can't do yeah you know they're looking to you yeah yeah uh have you seen coober flagg play basketball uh

Speaker 1 football player basketball Never played basketball. No, I haven't seen that.
Okay, because handsome white guy. White boys might be back.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The number one pick.

Speaker 3 American white. White boys might be back.
He's so white.

Speaker 1 He's changed since you've gone to Israel.

Speaker 1 He's so whack. The dude's from Maine.

Speaker 1 White boys might be back. Cooper flag.
Cooper flag, yeah.

Speaker 1 Just keep your eye on him. He can ball.
He can hoop. He might be the first white guy drafted number one overall.
American white guy drafted number one overall since like the 70s.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but my thing about that,

Speaker 1 I like him. I like him at Duke.
I like him. You've never seen him play?

Speaker 1 I've never seen him play up close in person, but I've seen highlights. Okay, okay.
He has size. Yeah.

Speaker 1 In fact.

Speaker 1 And it it seems like he has some type of toughness. He's got toughness.

Speaker 1 And I think, and I think regardless of what your skill is, is that if you have size and you have toughness, that's going to carry you on.

Speaker 3 He's so good.

Speaker 3 He's an elite white guy that plays a Duke that is not hatable.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, it's a little dominant.

Speaker 3 Right now, he's an easy guy to root for because he's just so fucking good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Who had the most toughness that you ever played with? The most toughness.

Speaker 1 Where you're like, damn, even, because you're considered obviously a tough player. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But you see, you play with someone or play against someone, you're like, damn, even

Speaker 1 I feel kind of like a wimp compared to this person. Russ.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That motherfucker tough. He don't die.
Yeah. Yeah, he just keeps coming at you.
Don't just, I don't give a fuck. Fuck it.
We down, we're up. I don't give a fuck what's going on.

Speaker 1 I'm just keep coming at you. Keep coming at you.
Like, Russ, easy. Yeah.
Unbelievable toughness.

Speaker 1 I see that.

Speaker 3 Did you ever have a teammate that was that tough? That was like,

Speaker 3 you know, like respect. You two kind of win at it, see who could be the toughest guy on your own team, who was going to be the tough guy?

Speaker 1 No, uh-uh.

Speaker 3 Because it's always you?

Speaker 1 No, yeah. And like, I get on the team with me and Bobby, and then, but I'm older, so it's like, Bobby, understand that I went to Arkansas before him.

Speaker 1 I've paid the way, you know, before him. So it's always a respect thing.
And I'm coming.

Speaker 1 You got to think, when I'm on the team, I'm not coming like, hey, man, give me the motherfucking ball. I want to shoot it.

Speaker 1 I'm not coming like that. I'm coming more like, hey, if we swing that around a couple more times, you get that same shot wide open type of shit.

Speaker 1 It's just different.

Speaker 3 You were talking about Giannis earlier. You do a pretty funny impression of Giannis.
Like the first time that he told you, like, I want to play with you one day.

Speaker 3 Can you tell that story?

Speaker 1 No, so

Speaker 1 we're home, we're playing Milwaukee, and

Speaker 1 I'm with Minnesota, and

Speaker 1 how the Western Conference and the Eastern Conference work, that you don't really get to see

Speaker 1 Eastern Conference home a lot. It's just one home, one away.

Speaker 1 So I think we seen them the first game of the season, and obviously, you know, we seen them in Milwaukee, so, you know, you want to play them while you're at home, you know.

Speaker 1 You practice pre-game thinking it's Giannis.

Speaker 1 You take your nap. Okay, cool.

Speaker 1 You're thinking it's Giannis.

Speaker 1 You get to the game. I don't see any Giannis.

Speaker 1 I'm fucking frustrated now.

Speaker 1 I'm actually angry now.

Speaker 1 I think I got kicked out of that game. I think I've only played that game, that same game that we're talking about.
I think I only played two minutes. I think I shoved the guy and they kicked me out.

Speaker 1 Literally. So we're working out pre-game.
I don't know, 60 on the

Speaker 1 70 on the clock, you know, before the game starts. and um i see yannis is a late scratch i go man what the fuck man i wanted to play him

Speaker 1 i go out i see uh thanassus shout out to uh thanassus is uh his older brother and his older brother has always been a fan of me obviously because i played in greek when they were you know uh around there at the same time so he's always and you know been a fan of you know my upbringing how i started from greece so i see him And I'm like, yo, where the fuck your brother at?

Speaker 1 Why the fuck he ducking smoke? He laugh at me like nah nah man he in the back he in the back nah fuck that man tell his ass to play

Speaker 1 so i finna i start my workout

Speaker 1 i look up i see greek coming out the tunnel um okay

Speaker 1 for sure he about to come over here he go excuse me guys excuse me guys excuse me guys

Speaker 1 like you gotta understand this is like uh

Speaker 1 this is greek freak yeah this isn't like uh

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 i don't know grayson allen or somebody You know, this is Greek freak walking through another professional's individual shooting time with other NBA coaches. Stopping, excuse me, guys.

Speaker 1 Like, stopping everything. Like, like, Pat, I never duck smoke.
I never duck smoke.

Speaker 1 I never, never, I duck smoke. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, shout out to Greek, man.
That was the first time I'm like, oh, yeah, this motherfucker, the real deal. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Motherfucker, the real deal. He's, he also is like, he's, I feel like he, because of the injuries and how everything's gone down the couple last couple years, people have kind of forgotten him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like how great he is. Yeah, I don't think forgotten.
I think that, you know, when you don't win it, you get hurt. You don't win it.
I don't know. You win it.

Speaker 1 You win it while you're hurt. You know, you fucked this shit up early that playoffs.
Come back, give him a fucking 60. I think they're looking for that person all the time now

Speaker 1 since that happened. And I don't think that's fair to the player.
Yeah. That was a legendary run he went on.

Speaker 3 That final is just absolutely dominant. And then afterwards, he goes to Chick-fil-A and orders 50 chicken nuggets and snaps it.

Speaker 1 Just a regular dude. What was your favorite memory being teammates with Robin Lopez? Robin Lopez.
I wasn't teammates with Robin Lopez. Yeah, you were.

Speaker 1 He tweeted last year, February 8th, 2024. This is when the trade deadline.
I enjoyed being teammates with Patrick Beverly for all of an hour and 45 minutes. I'll never forget those times.

Speaker 1 He's great, too. Him and Brooklyn.
You were teammates for an hour and 45 minutes. Yeah, I don't think we even shook hands.
So there's no way.

Speaker 1 You didn't show up. No, no way.

Speaker 1 He's great, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 that family is great, man. Mom is great.
Tiffany went off the other night. Didn't he? What did he hit? He went five for five from three.
And I think he had the Magic Johnson up and under layup, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
They're still dominating. Hey, I have a teammate question, though, for real.
Yeah. Beball Paul.

Speaker 1 Paul Reed. Yeah.
Is he as cool as I've made it out in my head? Okay.

Speaker 1 Will you say cool? I mean, he just, his nickname's B-Ball Paul. All right.
Okay. I got a question.
When When you see, when you, when you look at a person like Paul Reed, what do you instantly see?

Speaker 1 Well, it's not looking at him. It's the fact that he's B-Ball Paul and they chant B-Ball Paul, and that's like the funniest nickname possible.
Frank the Tank vibe. Yeah, right.
B-Ball Paul.

Speaker 1 Like, that's a funny, kind of like the frog in Cleveland. That's the fan experience.
I mean, you tell, Max, B-ball Paul. I mean, he hustles.
I love B-ball Paul.

Speaker 1 He's not on the Sixers anymore, but, you know, he's a guy who came from the G-League. Out the mud.
Out the mud.

Speaker 1 The out the mud sweatshirts are fun are funny and cool that he would make his own merch and sell it himself. Yeah, he would, that was the other thing.
Yeah, you would, you'd have to just Venmo him.

Speaker 1 I Venmo him for a shirt. He didn't have a store.
Yeah, he sent me out the mud.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he's like a good success story. You know, fought for what he got, and he was a good player.
And

Speaker 1 he's a dog. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 B-ball Paul. I mean, you can't just throw dog on everybody.
I think B-ball Paul's a dog. A dog? Yeah.
What kind? That's the difference.

Speaker 1 Like, I have a Yorkie. Yeah, I know.
You have a little, little, you have almost a cat. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He might be like a golden retriever.

Speaker 5 Yeah, just like lovable.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 You like when he's around?

Speaker 1 Love when he's around. He's a golden retriever, and then also, like, he's very lovable.
Also, maybe has like saved a kid out of a well or something. Type shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's had one like great moment where you're like, damn.

Speaker 3 He had the dog that got the key to the city for having a great week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then fell in the whale. Yeah.
Had to get helped out. Yeah, right.
Right, right, right. We're on the same page today.

Speaker 1 So you were talking about Maxie earlier.

Speaker 3 Hank just sent this over to us here.

Speaker 3 There's a report that the Sixers held a team meeting last night, and Tyrese Maxie called out Joel and Bede for being late, quote, to all team activities and everything.

Speaker 3 Everything. And everything.

Speaker 1 Period?

Speaker 3 All team activities and everything. So that implies everything is

Speaker 3 even not team activities.

Speaker 1 He's just late on everything.

Speaker 3 He's just late to everything.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 3 And he cites how that impacts the locker room, other players and coaches. Does being late have, does that make an effect on the general climate of an NBA team?

Speaker 1 I think on any team. I think in any workspace also.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 I've always liked to be, I don't know, seven, eight minutes early before anything. Well,

Speaker 1 let's be honest here. We came record at 11.
What? Nope. We recorded.
Is it 10:30? Well, we recorded at 11.

Speaker 3 What time did you walk in?

Speaker 1 12 minutes before we recorded.

Speaker 1 You walked in at 10.41.

Speaker 1 19 minutes before recording. Okay, okay, okay.
So I'm actually on time. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 But as far as basketball, though,

Speaker 1 I'm the guy that's like, you know, I like to be on the bus first. I like to be in a weight room first.
I like to be ready like that. You're not on time.

Speaker 1 It can rub off some people.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 if you're not on time and you give him motherfucking 70,

Speaker 1 right? It's been times where Joe L. MB won on time to motherfucking to practice.
And, you know, me, come on, Joe, man. What's up, G? Come on, man.
Come on, Joe. Come on, Joe.
Be better, Joe.

Speaker 1 Be great, Joe. Be great.

Speaker 1 And then his response would be like, what the fuck, man? You give me out of fucking bed. I'm fucking an hour and a half away.

Speaker 1 I mean, I had to get up two hours, you know, before, because everyone doesn't live at the same spot. You know what I'm saying? So, like, what we go do? Give me a motherfucking ball.

Speaker 1 That same night, he had 50, and we won. Yeah.
You know, I think we were 21-9 in the first 30 games, like the best record since 2004 in Allen Iverson when I was with Philly.

Speaker 1 So, it's just surprising to see, especially because of all the hard work that Nick Nurson and his coaches have put in. It's just hard to see.

Speaker 3 An hour and a half is a long way to

Speaker 1 travel.

Speaker 3 That's what Brandon Walker does.

Speaker 1 Before a 9 o'clock film. Yeah.
Which means you got to get up at 7. And I ain't saying that, you know, obviously, like, we have different jobs.

Speaker 1 Every motherfuckers is getting up at 6 o'clock in the morning so when everyone's different.

Speaker 1 But, you know, if you're to start i i don't have a problem with it and i'm the role guy and i'm the like the the the the you know the temperature of the locker room you feel me like i know you're not doing it to be ultimate disrespectful i know you don't show up to games late you know i know you don't show up to practices late like you know but if you got a nine o'clock in the morning shoot around and you

Speaker 1 You got to get up, you know, two hours before, you know, I don't think that's fair also, you know, so it's just, it's just different strokes, different folks. And Tyrese is

Speaker 1 B-Ball Paul, it wouldn't be, no, that's not even a conversation. It's not a conversation.
You can't even be fucking late. You can't be late.
But, you know,

Speaker 1 it comes with the status also. Is there

Speaker 1 such a thing as too many player-only meetings? No, I think you need to have more, no? This wasn't a player-only meeting. Oh, fact-check.
What was it? Because

Speaker 1 coaches were also involved in the team. Oh, coaches were

Speaker 1 coaches

Speaker 3 in front of his coaches.

Speaker 1 You were giving false information. I was asking.
That's a question about players-only meetings. I actually wasn't giving it to you.
But it was in context.

Speaker 1 No, but I wasn't giving false information because I said, is there such thing as too many players-only meetings? That's a fair question.

Speaker 5 Players also ask the coaches to be coached harder.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 So it also says that he was late to all team activities and everything, also implying that Joel Embiid was late to players-only meetings. That's part of everything.
Yeah, he would have been.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I don't think it was a players-only meeting that early before it ended anyway.

Speaker 3 What's the earliest players-only meeting that you've seen?

Speaker 1 Sound like this one. Yeah, but it wasn't.
Max is saying it wasn't.

Speaker 1 When a players-only meeting, is there too many, though? Like, can you have too many?

Speaker 1 Because we see it every now and then where it's like, they've had their third player's-only meeting in the last month. That feels like too many.
Yeah, but

Speaker 1 see, you got to understand what goes on. Like, a player-only meeting is

Speaker 1 motherfucker get in there. You, hey, so what the fuck going on? What we go do? It's not really formal.
Do you kick out the coaches? Do you say, coaches, get out of here? Yes. I like that part.

Speaker 1 Like, yes, y'all get the fuck out. Like, let's talk straight up.

Speaker 1 Or you bring a coach in who's like the player's coach, who's cool, that can kind of give you information of what the coach's thought is, but also can take information like this is the player's thought, also playing the ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, to kind of mesh it together because you don't want to be in there having a meeting the whole time.

Speaker 1 You get out of the meeting, you're like, oh man, that's you know, yeah, coaches, they don't have a whole different page than we're on. Like, okay, cool, let's all get organized.

Speaker 1 We get a new player, and they don't know right. We got this going on, man.
You feel me? Like, I feel like I, I feel like, you feel me? I'm shooting the ball a lot. I feel like

Speaker 1 I can get better shots. What can I do to make a team better? What can I do to help you? What can I do to help you? And then I I go like, okay, cool.
Fuck all that. Let's just talk about roles.

Speaker 1 Like, let's, you tell me your role. I tell you my role, and we just go all the way down.
And then you'll hear some people's roles, and then you'll be like, okay, y'all agree with that?

Speaker 1 And some guys will be like, no, I don't think that's your role. But that helps you, though.
Right. Right? That helps you.
Okay, cool.

Speaker 1 In my mind, I thought my role was screen, screen, screen, roll, roll, roll, whole time. This guy wants the star player wants my role to pop and shoot all the time.

Speaker 1 I might have thought my role was to shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot. No, my role is not to shoot.
My role is to offensive rebound,

Speaker 1 block shots, and take charges.

Speaker 1 I might think my role is, okay, cool, I'm the leader of this team. No, no, no, no, no.
You're the energy guy of this team. You're the guy that makes sure we have energy.

Speaker 1 So getting roles with your players,

Speaker 1 with those guys first, kind of like, okay, cool. It gets you a different perspective.

Speaker 1 And I think that helps. more than anything.
It gives you clarity.

Speaker 3 What you actually should be doing to make the rest of the team better based on what they want from you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then you'll say shit like, hey, bro, yeah, okay, I feel that. I feel that their role is to score, but you want to score that bitch like that.
You got to show us you're a pro too, bro.

Speaker 1 You got to be on time. Yeah.
Yeah. Right? Like, everybody got shit to do.
Yeah. Right.
I remember one time I think why I walked in late, right?

Speaker 1 And there's very few times where Kawhi kind of walked in late. I think something happened.
He walked in late. He was standing in San Diego.
I don't know. Helicopter was late type shit.
Right.

Speaker 1 I go, Kawhi, like, hey,

Speaker 1 I know shit happened, but we all got shit to do, right? We all pros. We all millionaires.
Shit, most of all, all of us got kids. Like,

Speaker 1 I understand, like, we sitting here waiting on you. That's not 30 minutes at the end of practice that I could be on my way home to my son or some shit.
Right. Like, I ain't telling you what to do.

Speaker 1 Just respect the grind. Right.

Speaker 1 You tell a motherfucker that straight up. Motherfucker got to do what? Respect it.
Like, man, you know what? You're right, bro. I can be better.
Yeah, that helps you too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can be fucking better. All right.
You know, so like, I think any type of meeting, any type of, you know, any type of discussion about, I don't know, getting better, I think that's always

Speaker 1 perfect medicine. Who is the best player in the NBA right now?

Speaker 1 Jokic. Yeah, that was the correct answer.
All right, you still no ball. Yeah.
Good job. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He is. Jokic.

Speaker 3 It seems like he'd be fun to play with, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He just spreads it everywhere, makes everyone better. Plays the right way.
Yeah. Plays the right way.
Every time he has the ball, it's like the gravity towards him just keeps

Speaker 1 everyone open.

Speaker 1 It's nuts watching him play. I had a, I don't know, I think this was the bubble year, 2020.
We're about to play Denver, and I'm watching him work out, and it's one of the Denver coaches.

Speaker 1 I don't even know his fucking name, assisting guy.

Speaker 1 I go,

Speaker 1 it's two things that make him great.

Speaker 1 I go to the coach, what do you think it is? And the options in my head was

Speaker 1 his passing ability or his feel for the ball.

Speaker 1 You know, a coach goes, a coach that's probably never played NBA basketball goes, all the way he can pass it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a lot of motherfuckers that can pass, though. And I honestly think it's his feeling for the ball.

Speaker 1 I know a ton of motherfuckers that can pass, but like

Speaker 1 a one-second pass

Speaker 1 is worse than a 0.3 pass.

Speaker 1 Get it literally like in your hand, out your hand to the next guy. Like the defense can't even rotate.
Then getting it, same pass, but defense is contesting the shot. Like

Speaker 1 his feel for the game, his feel for the ball, I think is one of his best attributes.

Speaker 1 It's like the difference in football of like throwing someone open, where it's like you're throwing the ball before they're open. Type shit.
And they get open as the ball gets there. Type shit.

Speaker 1 Jokic is doing that where he knows it.

Speaker 1 It's almost like he's playing chess on the court, where it's like, I know where this guy's about to cut to. The ball will be there.
Look here, pass here. Look here, pass here.

Speaker 1 Because you can't defend against him.

Speaker 1 And he's so tall and so a rather large man that it makes it very difficult.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I love it when he he puts the ball above his head. It's like he's going towards the hoop ball above his head and then he just throws it backwards.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But it's like one of the fastest passes that you've ever seen. And it just whips it backwards and

Speaker 1 it's shooting

Speaker 1 it's where he shoots also. Yeah.
So you have to not only, oh, what are you doing with the ball up there? Oh, shit, he might shoot this motherfucker. So

Speaker 1 he gives you a triple threat of a, you know, usually you're taught triple threat. You talk the ball down here.
You ha jab, ha, ha, ha, ha, triple threat.

Speaker 1 He's giving you triple threat here where he can pass and he can shoot. So it's even more deadly.
And who do you know defends? What big man you know that can defend up here? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I ask up here, boom, one dribble, he's gone. Yeah, so he's possible.
Yeah, so he's really good.

Speaker 3 You mentioned something earlier I wanted to talk about your pregame nap.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So it sounds like that's something that you take seriously.

Speaker 1 Very serious, yeah.

Speaker 3 So what's your nap schedule before a game nap?

Speaker 1 So I go, so everything is different for me. I don't talk a lot.

Speaker 1 I'm all about preserving energy.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I don't talk a lot. I don't really break a lot of huddles game day.
I don't really really speak a lot. I'm just preserving a lot of energy.
So I wake up, obviously shower,

Speaker 1 a little cold for us to wake me up, go hot after that, go to shoot around, you know.

Speaker 1 I want to sweat, but I don't want like a drippy sweat. I want a nice lather.

Speaker 1 Not a drippy sweat. I don't want to.
You feel me? I don't want to. I know exactly a miss.
Right, right, right. I want to just be able to wake up and just be okay, cool.

Speaker 1 I don't want to rub and have to like, damn, this shit's getting in my eye. Yeah.
You know, so I just, as soon as I get there, I'm cool. I'm 36, so I know my body.

Speaker 1 Like, as soon as I get there, I'm cool. I don't eat breakfast.
I only eat once a day.

Speaker 1 My meal that I eat every single day for, I don't know, the last nine years has been any type of mixed pasta, cream, and tomato sauce with any type of protein, chicken, fish, steak, right?

Speaker 1 I eat, I don't know, I feast, eat a big ass bowl of that shit. Whatever I'm watching on TV, now it's the diplomats,

Speaker 1 mixed with a little sopranos. I pick off where I left off, not on the TV, because I can't watch them on the TV.
It has to be my phone. Because when I go to sleep,

Speaker 1 my phone goes to sleep. It turns off on its own.
I don't have to hear shit that might wake me up of a gunshot or just watching the Sopranos. So I can't watch it on TV.
It only has to be my phone.

Speaker 1 So, okay, cool. I'm watching it.
Cool, cool. I go to sleep.
I let my body do what it does. If it sleeps for three hours, sleep for three hours.
If it's tossing a turn, then toss and turn.

Speaker 1 You don't set an alarm? No, uh-uh. My body kind of does the same thing every time.
Okay, that's a good nap.

Speaker 3 Three hours is a significant.

Speaker 1 So I go, I go, I come home, I eat. While I'm eating, I'm taking my mind off basketball.
So I'm playing, I don't know, Call of Duty. I'm in fucking war right now.

Speaker 1 I'm a soldier, right? Right. Pre-game, I'm a soldier.

Speaker 1 I don't know, 1.30 hit. I probably have to be at the gym at 5.30, 5 o'clock.
1.30 hit, I'm making my way to my bed slowly. Okay, cool.
I'm telling off the lights.

Speaker 1 I'm pissing to make sure I don't have to get up for anything. You know, and I just, after that, I just kind of let my body do what it does.
If it sleeps for two hours, it'll sleep for two hours.

Speaker 1 If it's an hour here, 30 minutes here, 20 minutes minutes here, I kind of let it do its thing. Have you ever overslept by accident? No.
Okay. So the internal alarm clock wakes you up.

Speaker 1 And I'm a big iron. Like, I iron before every game.
You iron? Myself. Like, I love ironing.

Speaker 1 You found that out, I don't know, three years ago. You just love ironing.
I literally ironed it. I was ironing this today.

Speaker 1 It is actually like a therapeutic thing when you get the whole ironing board out. So I'm the whole ironing board, every hotel, I have to have it.

Speaker 1 And I didn't know I did it until like three years until someone on the phone were like, oh, there you go, iron again. I'm like, iron again? What do you mean? I'm like,

Speaker 1 and I thought about like, damn, I am. I'm literally ironing every fucking day.
Do you iron again? Do you iron a lot?

Speaker 3 Do you iron shit that you're not going to wear that day? No, uh-uh. Just what you're going to wear on the walk into the gym.
Yeah. That's awesome.
So then you take your nap.

Speaker 3 You think a lot of players take naps?

Speaker 1 A lot of people do, but then I heard the older that you get, guys start like talk wing and shit. So I think Steph Curry does like golf before, you know, just to take his mind off.

Speaker 1 He got to think he goes shoot some holes and go from there right to the gym type shit. Some guys have to have naps, naps, you know, like have to have.
They don't have naps.

Speaker 1 You know, you don't play well. Some guys don't sleep.

Speaker 3 You ever dream about the game?

Speaker 1 Not game, but like opponent.

Speaker 1 It'd be crazy. So you're doing film study.
Yeah, but it won't even be like

Speaker 1 it'd be like

Speaker 1 a guy like my fucking Shabazz Napier or some shit.

Speaker 1 Raoul Netto or some shit. Yeah.
Like, man,

Speaker 1 I can't let him get off. I can't let him.
Like, it ain't even about like

Speaker 1 Russ Dame or, like,

Speaker 1 it's always like, oh, it's okay, fuck it, man. Peyton Preacher, I can't let him get off.
Type shit. You know what I'm saying? So that's how it is, if it is a dream.
I love that.

Speaker 3 They're going into the game and they have no idea that Pat Bev's been literally dreaming about shutting them down.

Speaker 1 And it's literally the same way while I'm in Europe also. It's a guy that I'm like, could you guys just give me numbers? Because I don't know names.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Like, I know all NBA names. Just give me numbers.
What does number six do? What does number 95 do? What does number 54 do? And they have wild numbers. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 They're number 77 and shit like that, but it's like that overseas where it's just like, okay,

Speaker 1 I just need to refer to people by numbers because I don't know names. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Pat, I got one last question.

Speaker 1 Robot Question: Are you guys coming to Tel Aviv? Probably not. Okay.

Speaker 1 Robot Question.

Speaker 3 Is that within five hours? No, within, I don't know, five years.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 No, but I mean, like, how long does it take to get there?

Speaker 1 Tel Aviv? Yeah. From Chicago.
So I got to go here, New York, which is two and a half. Yeah.
Three. Two.
Two.

Speaker 3 Four when you talk about like getting to the airport. Type shit.

Speaker 1 Right. And then I go 12 hours straight flight.

Speaker 3 Probably not. Nope.

Speaker 1 Probably not going to do that.

Speaker 1 All right. Rollback question.
Good luck. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah.
We'll be rooting for you. I'm talking about the Israeli culture and community loves me to death.
Yeah, we're rooting for you.

Speaker 1 I have people that walk up to me in the airport like, thank you for all you're doing for Israel. In my mind, I'm like, I'm just speaking on my own.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm just speaking on what I experienced at home.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

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Speaker 3 Celtics won last year.

Speaker 1 Did you see Hank on the float with Joe Missoula?

Speaker 1 He went on the parade. He went on the parade.
He was on the duck. Is it Hank? Yeah, Hank, right there, sitting right there.
Producer, pardon my take. Future dunker.

Speaker 1 One of our best friends, known him for almost half his life. No.
Hank was on the float with Joe Missoula.

Speaker 1 I asked that. Yeah, greatest day of his life.
I asked that because, hypothetically,

Speaker 1 if you were to ever win a title. Ron is there 100%.
Oh, no, I was going to ask for Hank.

Speaker 1 No, it was going to be Roan.

Speaker 1 Would Roan be

Speaker 1 on the float or wherever with you?

Speaker 1 Ron's in my wedding. Okay, great.
So I just wanted to make sure, because I love Roan too. I wanted to make sure

Speaker 1 he will be able to live the day like Hank lived. That's my nigga, Ron.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Like you guys have no idea. You guys probably haven't an idea of it.
Yeah, we have an idea. I just stole him from us.
Ron's the man.

Speaker 3 He's the best.

Speaker 1 He's actually phenomenal. A phenomenal person first.
A phenomenal husband second. And he's insanely talented.
I've been around a ton of guys where it's either either or.

Speaker 1 They're really good and they're a shitty husband. It's very rare that you get both.

Speaker 1 Phenomenal guy in both of those aspects. Talent-wise,

Speaker 1 it's something that gives me Jim Carrey vibes. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He can do anything. Do you know what it is?

Speaker 1 Anything. It's also how effortless it is.
Yeah. It's not forced.
Because I feel like I have to work really hard to be entertaining. He feels like you could throw him.
I always said this about Ron 2.

Speaker 1 You can throw him in any situation. Any setting, any person.
I agree. And he'll have a conversation that you want to listen to.
President of the United States suited up, Ron, go be there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Black dude in the hood, wrong, go be there. Yeah.
A Mexican don't even know how to speak English. Yep.
Uh-uh.

Speaker 1 Come on, Team Amo. Wrong, go be there.
It's wild. It's crazy.
We put him on football. He go be there.
Put him on basketball. He's going to be there.

Speaker 1 Son of a boy dad on fucking couch with his legs crossed. He go be there.
Fucking Pat Bill Pie with Ron. Yeah, we're talking about gangster shit and who fucking better? White guys or black guys?

Speaker 1 Wrong go be there. He's absolutely phenomenal.
Which will be on that parade.

Speaker 3 What was the answer to that question? Who's better? White guys or black guys?

Speaker 1 Remember Cooper Flag?

Speaker 1 Yo, Kitch.

Speaker 1 I think that's a difference. European is very different.
Why? European. They're white.
I know, but European

Speaker 1 outranks both white and black. A woman who gets a European, she thinks she's won.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, you get a last name with an itch or

Speaker 1 some Italian name. Yeah, I think that woman for sure thinks she won.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are different. I mean, that whole region.
With Luca, Jokic. Mind you, it's, I don't know, seven, eight countries.
Imagine if it was just Yugoslavia. It was, yeah.
Imagine.

Speaker 1 They would be dominating everything. It'd be people who won't make the team.
I know. Yeah.
Who are like super talented. That's why they subdivided.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Because they had too much talent.
They're bad for basketball.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They're like UConn women's hoop.
To break it up. Crazy smoke.
All right, Pat. Everyone go subscribe to the Pep Bev Pod, please.
He's the best.

Speaker 1 Good luck for the rest of this season. Maybe, hopefully, we'll see you back in the NBA at some point.
We'll see. Yeah.
All right. Thanks, Pat.
Love, guy.

Speaker 3 Thanks, man.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. We got pardon your take, Henry.
Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do.
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 5 Aaron Rodgers is dismantling the Jets organization in retaliation against the COVID vaccine. This is all Aaron Rodgers planned to get back at Big Farmer by

Speaker 1 Woody Johnson's team from the ground up, sticking it to the man and destroying the franchise.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I like Woody Johnson.

Speaker 3 He did that the one-shot thing. Aaron Rodgers gets traded to them, tanks their value.

Speaker 1 I got a question for you guys. Did you know that there's like boosters for COVID?

Speaker 3 I did know that.

Speaker 1 I didn't.

Speaker 1 Stop it. Yeah, you knew that.
I got one shot four years ago, and that's it.

Speaker 3 You didn't know that they

Speaker 3 released shots every like six months.

Speaker 5 That's the whole Steven Chase shot.

Speaker 1 I knew Steven Say had shots. I thought there was like a new.
I didn't know it was like the flu shot now. I thought it was like a new, like a whole new brand.

Speaker 1 I didn't know it was like seasonal boosters. Yeah, I mean, every

Speaker 3 Travis Kelsey, John Legend, they're talking about getting the new shots.

Speaker 1 I thought that was a whole new shot.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, it kind of is. Yeah, yeah, I know, but I didn't realize that like a flu, like you get the flu shot and then you get the COVID booster.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The booster. I've only got one.

Speaker 3 Mincy boosts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I didn't. Have you guys gotten any boosters? Fuck no.

Speaker 3 I got one, I think, six months

Speaker 3 after the first one came out.

Speaker 5 I got one because you had to get the card to live.

Speaker 1 I got that one. The Johnson ⁇ Johnson one was like the weakest one.
It was the one shot. There was no follow-up.
That was like four years ago.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that people were doing every single season. They were like,

Speaker 1 I think old people.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I think it's good for old people.

Speaker 1 That makes and Stephen Chase.

Speaker 3 And Stephen Chase. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm also wondering, the person who does these pardon your takes his memes, I'm wondering if they're all going to be Jets Pardonier Takes. Oh, that would be a nice wrinkle.
That would be nice.

Speaker 3 Wait, memes, was that your idea? That Aaron Rodgers tanked the Jets because he hates Woody Johnson?

Speaker 1 No, somebody wrote that in. Okay.

Speaker 3 What are your thoughts about that?

Speaker 1 It's believable.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 I'm dead.

Speaker 1 I guess I'm just an idiot because I I thought I didn't realize boosters.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I thought. I thought it was just a whole new, brand new vaccine, but I guess that makes no sense.
Yeah, I'm dumb.

Speaker 3 If you were to ask Aaron Rodgers if he tanked the Jets because of Woody Johnson, what do you think his answer would be? Yes. I think so, yeah.

Speaker 1 For sure.

Speaker 5 Pardon your take, but if your team's biggest rival doesn't consider you to be their biggest rival, you are a little brother.

Speaker 5 For example, if you ask a Michigan State fan who the biggest rival is, they say Michigan, no question.

Speaker 5 If you ask anyone in Michigan, they're going to unequivocally respond that OSU is enemy number one. This exists in all sports everywhere.
Sixers fans hate the Celtics.

Speaker 5 Celtics have a historical rival with the Lakers. Verbal meme, madmen, I don't think about you at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, this is all facts.

Speaker 3 And it sucks being that little brother. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank, have you tweeted about the Sixers at all today? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you do think about it. So you do think about it.

Speaker 3 It's because Hank hosts the national sports podcast. I do.

Speaker 1 It's his job. And sometimes he's.

Speaker 5 I was reading the fucking question, dude. Those weren't my words.

Speaker 1 I was quoting the person. That's big-time little brother energy you're giving off, Max.
That's fair.

Speaker 1 I was reading the question.

Speaker 5 That was not me saying that.

Speaker 1 Who's the saddest little brother?

Speaker 5 I think about you guys all the time and laugh.

Speaker 5 When I need to get a smile on my face or when I need to just, you know, get a quick boost of serotonin, just think about the Sixers.

Speaker 3 The saddest little brother?

Speaker 1 NC State, that sucks.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because you got Duke and UNC just duking it out and they're like, hey, we don't like UNC. We don't like Duke.

Speaker 5 Wake Forest is kind of in that spot.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but I don't think that they... They're even farther away.
They wouldn't consider themselves to be little brother to anybody.

Speaker 1 It's a back of the road, though. Michigan State's a high one.

Speaker 3 I would agree with that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Michigan State's a big one.

Speaker 1 Commanders.

Speaker 3 Commanders, Dallas.

Speaker 1 Anyone who thinks they're a rival with Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 Like Notre Dame has a million rivals. Purdue would probably be like,

Speaker 3 yeah, Notre Dame's our big rival.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like the only ones I really think for Notre Dame is like USC.

Speaker 1 And I mean, they don't play it anymore, but Michigan, Notre Dame was I feel like Tennessee has a bunch that they don't have anyone that's well Tennessee has Alabama, Alabama.

Speaker 1 That's a Little Brother move right now.

Speaker 5 I feel like there's a few with Tennessee where no one says Tennessee is their main rival, but they have like three.

Speaker 3 I think Kentucky would probably say that Tennessee's biggest rival, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then Tennessee,

Speaker 1 Little Brothers, Vanderbilt. But yeah, that's a good one.
Tennessee, Alabama, and Alabama's like, no, it's

Speaker 1 Auburn, and it's kind of LSU, too.

Speaker 3 I would say the Mets are probably up there, too.

Speaker 1 For who? Yankees.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wait, did you say Kentucky and Tennessee? I think that

Speaker 1 Kentucky has Louisville. Yeah, meme said Kentucky.
Yeah, Kentucky has Louisville. That's their big rival.

Speaker 3 What about football, though?

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 3 you think that they care more about even though they're not in conference? Definitely.

Speaker 1 They play every year, yeah.

Speaker 5 A little slander on a friend of the show here. What? But memes sends questions.
I'll read them. Okay.

Speaker 1 It's a hot one.

Speaker 3 When J.J.

Speaker 5 Watt retired, people were having discussions about him being a first ballot Hall of Famer, which is absolute nonsense.

Speaker 5 He's not even on the top 20 for career sacks. Meanwhile,

Speaker 5 Jared Allen is number 12 on that list and has still not gotten in. I'm honestly not sure if Watts should ever be a Hall of Famer.
Just thought someone should bring awareness to this issue.

Speaker 3 Okay, so

Speaker 3 I love the take.

Speaker 1 Yeah, listen, it's a fair, like, this is part of your take. You bring the spiciest takes.

Speaker 3 I would say that JJ Watts, how many Defensive Player of the Year Awards does he have?

Speaker 1 He won

Speaker 1 two in three and four years.

Speaker 3 Three and four years, and he probably should have had an MVP somewhere in there. So, J.J.

Speaker 1 Watt, from 2012 to 2014, was probably the best, one of, if not the best, defensive players. Probably Lawrence Taylor is obviously number one.

Speaker 5 I mean, Aaron Foster was the best offensive player for a few years stretching.

Speaker 3 He should be in the Hall of Fame, too. I agree, Hank.

Speaker 1 So, he had 20.5 sacks, 10.5 sacks, 20.5 sacks, 17.5 sacks in those four years. That's an insane, insane clip.
67.5 half sacks or 68 sacks in four years.

Speaker 1 This guy's an idiot.

Speaker 3 And he was dominant, and he was scoring offensive touchdowns, too.

Speaker 3 Yeah, JJ, if you look at the other guys that are eligible for the Hall of Fame, I will give you Jared Allen probably should be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 He should, but I think the Hall of Fame, obviously you can go off career, but there's like, I mean, it's the Terrell Davis thing.

Speaker 1 Like, he wasn't, his career wasn't super long, but the three or four year stretch where he was just so much better than everyone else.

Speaker 1 Jared Allen,

Speaker 1 he did not win a defensive player of the year, so you could never say he was by far the best defender. I do think Jared Allen should be in the

Speaker 1 Hall of Fame, but

Speaker 1 he did have 22 sacks in 2011, but yeah, I mean, he had a nice four-year stretch as well, five-year stretch. Jared Allen should be in the Hall of Fame.
Yeah. That doesn't mean

Speaker 3 J.J. Watt shouldn't be.
Yeah, so J.J. Watt was so dominant in the, like, a relatively short career.
It's not like he only played a couple years and, like, burned out. He had a good career.

Speaker 3 But he was also

Speaker 3 so good in that short time period that he ended up putting up all-time numbers in a lot of categories.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he.

Speaker 3 And he was, like, double-teamed constantly.

Speaker 1 He was injured for four of his 12 years, so he pretty much played eight years.

Speaker 1 Jared Allen played

Speaker 1 12 years. He was injured.

Speaker 1 He played 16, like more than 14 games pretty much every single year that he was in the NFL. So he played more games.
I think he got to go by games as well. 187 to 151.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Now I got a crunch number, sacks per game.

Speaker 3 Because if J.J. Watt would get in a first ballot Hall of Famer, then I honestly would have no idea who a first ballot Hall of Famer would be.

Speaker 1 And we all agree that Jared Allen should be in the Hall of Fame. So don't take it away from JJ just because you want Jared Allen in.

Speaker 1 All right, I'm doing the stats real quick.

Speaker 3 You ready for this? Sacks per game?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm doing it. J.J.
Watt, remember this number. Wait, is that right? No.

Speaker 1 Remember this number.

Speaker 3 Fuck, I can't do math. Aaron Foster would be in the Hall of Fame if he wasn't an atheist.
I want to say that for the record.

Speaker 1 0.75 sacks per game. The science book.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the science book that made him retire.

Speaker 1 0.75 sacks per game for J.J. Watt.

Speaker 3 I'm not saying that he's being discriminated. I'm saying that he made a bad move by being like, hey, guys, I'm an atheist.

Speaker 1 0.72 sacks per game for Jared Allen. Jared Allen was really, really good.

Speaker 3 So J.J. Watt had 0.03 more sacks per game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 I'm happy we did that number.

Speaker 3 Also, not to get too granular with it, but he played on some bad Texans teams. He did.
That weren't exactly having to pin their ears back and rush the passer in the second half of a lot of games.

Speaker 1 Why don't we just flip this into a positive? Will just become a Jared Allen should be in the Hall of Fame podcast.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He should.

Speaker 1 He also, I made one of the least sold shirts I've ever made in my entire barstool career. I made a shirt that said Wynam Dynam 69.

Speaker 1 And when we signed, I thought he was the finishing piece for the Bears. Second year Tressman.

Speaker 1 He's going to do this. Holy shit.
He's going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 Also, people didn't really want to wear a shirt that said Wynam Dynam 69 him.

Speaker 3 The fact that he bounced around so much is not good for his Hall of Fame case either.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I think, obviously Vikings is the first jersey you come up with, but Chiefs, Vikings, and then at the end of his career. Yep.

Speaker 5 All right, while most people watch my Cowboys get dismantled like a cheap tent on Monday Night Football, all I can think about is how our beloved owner, Mr.

Speaker 5 Jerry Jones, actively attempted to murder multiple people with a piece of sheet metal under section 15.01 of the Texas Penal Code. I like this.

Speaker 5 Attempted murder carries a charge of up to 10 years in prison. It's time we stop letting the elites off the hook and hold them accountable for their actions.

Speaker 5 If you guys could get Mike Portnoy Esquire to begin proceedings, that would be greatly appreciated.

Speaker 3 Class action.

Speaker 1 I mean, he

Speaker 5 got Mike Tyson, who couldn't even stand up illegally commissioned

Speaker 5 in Texas. Like, this guy's on touch.

Speaker 3 He's tried to kill multiple people. Yeah.
He took the top off in mid-November and

Speaker 3 somebody's going to not go to prison.

Speaker 1 No. Yeah, he would not go to prison.

Speaker 3 He would, yeah. Or he would build his own prison like Pablo Escobar and be like, just send me here.

Speaker 1 It would just, he would just be Jerry Roberts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he should live in the stadium. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That is, that is the dream, though, to get barely injured by a falling piece of metal in Jerry Jones Stadium.

Speaker 3 Oh my God. You would just scratch.
You'd never see me again. I would be a billionaire.
It'd be awesome.

Speaker 1 Or you just get Cowboys tickets. That would suck.
Yeah. No, that'd be then I'd assume again.
Yeah. Did you guys see the Paul Skeens giveaway?

Speaker 1 There's giving away a card. And if you get it, it's a rookie Paul Skeens card.
And if you get it, you get 30 years of Pirates season tickets, two seats behind home plate.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 It's a interesting giveaway. You guys in?

Speaker 3 It seems like a burden.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of years. It's a lot of years for pirates' season tickets.

Speaker 5 Can you resell them?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I would hope so.
Here's what you get. You get

Speaker 1 two pirate season tickets behind home plate for the next 30 years. Meet and greet with Paul Skeens.

Speaker 1 Two Paul Skeens autographed jerseys. Softball game for 30 at PNC Park.

Speaker 1 That's awesome.

Speaker 1 That is the sickest. Wait, someone did it? Someone got it? I don't know.
I think

Speaker 1 the Pirates are looking

Speaker 1 for whoever pulls this card.

Speaker 1 Oh, to give it. Oh, they're trying to get it.
So buy it. Like, the card is already

Speaker 1 out, but the Pirates are trying to get that card. So the Pirates are trying to get that card so they can sell it in like four years so they can pay Paul Skeens.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Livvy Dunn also offered, they could watch a game this week with her. That's one of the in the box? Yep, in the the box.

Speaker 3 Livvy Dunn offered admittance to her box.

Speaker 1 I didn't say it.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good show, boys.
Good show.

Speaker 1 Let's do numbers. 3.
11.

Speaker 1 Memes. You're never going to get it, memes.

Speaker 3 36.

Speaker 1 56.

Speaker 3 77.

Speaker 1 99 puck.

Speaker 1 33. Jack.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 1 Everyone go? I think Jack said 33. What was your pick, Memes? 56.
You've never gotten it. Nope.

Speaker 3 What was your pick, PFT? 77. You also have never gotten it.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's what, yeah, memes picked last time.

Speaker 3 I'm trailing them.

Speaker 1 95.

Speaker 1 95.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.