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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, week 11 in the NFL, we're going to talk about every game from Sunday.

Speaker 1 The Steelers win a big one against the Ravens. The Bills win a big one against the Chiefs.
The Bears did the Bears thing. The Jets are officially dead.
We got a lot to talk about.

Speaker 1 And then we're going to do Fastest Two Minutes to Start. We also got who's back of the week.

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Today is Monday, November 18th, week 11.

Speaker 1 Whoop, whoop,

Speaker 1 whoop, whoop, poop,

Speaker 1 and let me be the first to wish a congratulations to the Toronto Argonauts in the Gray Cup. In the Grey Cup and the CFL.
In the Gray Cup.

Speaker 1 We start in Pittsburgh, where you can throw out the record books when these two teams play.

Speaker 1 Many people think you can't win a football game without getting in the end zone, but Boswell actually can, as Chris scored six times for the Steelers.

Speaker 1 LaMarvelous became unremarkable on Sunday as the Steelers defense bottled him up, forcing fumbles on Likely and Henry.

Speaker 1 Likely Henry, that's what tiffany gomas said when asked who smashed a hole in her back wall the steelers put a stranglehold choke me daddy on the afc north steelers 18 ravens 16 punk

Speaker 1 we go to michigan get up everybody's going to score tds get down jamison says hold my id gotta lose your coach in detroit proc said hey as the lions punked the jags and even brock right got it on the action with a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Doctor says I need a macchiotomy as Jones couldn't help the broken spine of the Jaguars and I haven't seen anyone miss Lawrence since Darren Aronofsky.

Speaker 1 Doug Peterson is looking less like Quailman and more like Failman as it's only a matter of time before he's fired. Now that's funny.
Lions 56. The Jaguars.
Lions 52. The Jaguars 6.

Speaker 1 Down in Miami where it's a John New World Order as Smith scored twice and had over 100 yards receiving.

Speaker 1 Through a tough start to this season, Mike McDaniel told fans that if you don't love me now, you'll never love me again.

Speaker 1 I can still hear you saying you will never break a chain. As Devon laid the fleet wood on the Raiders' defense all afternoon long.

Speaker 1 As for the Raiders, their season has boiled down to whether or not Brock Tua could keep spitting on that thing as their rookie tight end had another career day. Dolphins 34.
Raiders.

Speaker 1 Raiders 19. A lot of Brocks this week, boom.
A lot of Brocks. A lot of Brocks.
A lot of Brocks. A lot of Brocks.
In Nashville, Sam Darnold Schwarzenegger said, I'm back.

Speaker 1 Nick Westbrook and Kenny Rogers say, you got to know when to hold them. Know when to skull them.
Know when to walk away. Know when to run 99 yards for a score.

Speaker 1 Brian's supercalahanalistic Titans are atrocious as Tennessee remains the chimney sweep of the AFT South. But a spoonful of draft picks helps the losing go down.
The Vikings 23. The Titans 13.

Speaker 1 In Chicago, where the Bears played the Packers and lost again because the Bears never beat the Packers and life is meaningless.

Speaker 1 And Mike Tyson was right that there's no such thing as legacy because we all die in the end. Also, Carl Brooks Burke got wild on the game-winning field goal, blocking it with his hand.

Speaker 1 Remember that show? I used to jerk off to it, but it doesn't matter because we're all going to die one day. Packers 20, Bears 19.

Speaker 1 We head to Foxborough with Henry Lockwood on the scene. In New England, Drake Mayflower continued his stellar rookie campaign in the first quarter with a passing touchdown to Kendrick.

Speaker 1 Born to be wild.

Speaker 1 Methuen Stafford responded with a touchdown of his own to Cooper Capow.

Speaker 1 Rams defense forced a fumble on a play that was actually a tuck rule, whatever, and got the ball back in the red zone.

Speaker 1 Pookie Nakua was looking absolutely fire in the end zone, so Stafford rewarded him with a touchdown of his own.

Speaker 1 The pass fought back valently in the fourth quarter, but not even a touchdown from offensive lineman Jeff Viazen Vidarian low was enough, and the Rams win 28-22. Was that Lightning McQueen, Henry?

Speaker 1 All right, we had to stick it in the AFC East.

Speaker 1 Memes

Speaker 1 in MetLife Stadium, where Anthony Soprano Richardson finished off the big pussy, which is the Jets defense.

Speaker 1 No spoilers, boom. Metal World Brees caused malice at the Metal Lands as he scored two touchdowns of his own.
Drake and Josh Downs said to the Jets defenders, whoa, just take it easy, man.

Speaker 1 As he scored a touchdown, as far as Aaron Rodgers, it was time to quitty pay the piper with the sack and put an end to this game and the Jets season. Colts 28, Jets 27.

Speaker 4 They shot him on the boat, Boom.

Speaker 1 No spoilers.

Speaker 4 Did a drink with him first.

Speaker 1 we finished in buffalo where the bills were flaunting their bodies as skirtish samuel showed a lot of legs and khalil shakira shakira said these hips don't lie as he went whoop and whoop and

Speaker 1 some spread on the chiefs defense Xavier, we are not worthy, had Chiefs fans saying, game on, Garth, after a first half score.

Speaker 1 The game was back and forth, back and forth, as Noah 50 Shades of Gray had Josh Allen feeling like he was back in bondage after a second touchdown.

Speaker 1 But the Bills finally got their release, shooting a massive buffalo and a win.

Speaker 1 No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 1 Bills starting. The Chiefs 21.

Speaker 1 Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston, Cuyahoga. Such a fine sight to see.

Speaker 1 He's throwing seeds against his old team. Revenge against New Orleans.
The gumbo sword.

Speaker 1 You gotta boil

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 Rizzy bog them like a pregame toy.

Speaker 1 The Saints go marching 35-14.

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Speaker 1 Okay, week 11 in the books. We have

Speaker 1 Sunday Night Football that we'll talk about at the end that is about to start. We're going to tape some of this early, but week 11 in the books.
I feel like we're officially at the point

Speaker 1 where there are some teams that we can just stop paying attention to, and that became clear this week,

Speaker 1 specifically the Jaguars.

Speaker 4 Well, what's the thing about the Jaguars is you can stop paying attention to them because they're relevant, and the NFL makes perfect sense sometimes.

Speaker 4 However, we might have to start paying attention to the Jaguars again because they're probably going to have an interim coach. Yeah, we'll have to see.

Speaker 1 We'll have to see how the interim head coach, if he's fat or fun or passion.

Speaker 4 You want to look at their coaching staff right now and predict who it should be?

Speaker 1 It's not going to be their defensive coordinator. No.

Speaker 4 You know what?

Speaker 4 Let Tony Khan do it. Yeah,

Speaker 1 let Tony Khan get on the sideline. Let's wait.
Let's wait till we get to the Jaguars lines. Let's get into the games.

Speaker 1 We'll start with the most important game from Sunday, and it was Steelers 18, Ravens Ravens 16, exactly how you expected a Steelers-Ravens game to go. We said this on Friday.

Speaker 1 All they do is play close games. All you got to do is take the underdog, and the Steelers win the game with six field goals, never getting into the end zone.

Speaker 1 Not the best game from Russell Wilson, but I think this was the game that was like, damn, the Steelers need to be taken very much for real because their defense just bottled up a very, very explosive Ravens offense.

Speaker 1 And they now have a two-game lead in the AFC North, and they are in play for a one-seat as well because the Chiefs lost. So the Steelers, like you, you had,

Speaker 1 I actually think if you went in this game and you said that Russell Wilson was going to play like that, I would say the Steelers had no chance because it was all kind of short underneath.

Speaker 1 He had that one really nice pass to George Pickens, but when he was pressured, he was sacked a bunch of times, threw

Speaker 1 one of the worst interceptions in the end zone. But the Steelers' defense did it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Steelers' defense, they take away the long ball. They're like, we'll give you stuff underneath.
And really, I feel like this game came down to a couple things.

Speaker 4 One was the Derrick Henry fumble on the very first drive. Yep.
One of the first plays of the game.

Speaker 4 That added up with the missed field goals by Justin Tucker.

Speaker 1 He might actually be bad.

Speaker 4 Who now should either fake an injury and be like, yeah, I've been dealing with this since like week two. I don't know, just say that you've had a hamstring problem that's gotten worse.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Or say that you've got like the measles. But there's something wrong with Justin Tucker.

Speaker 4 And we've been calling him washed, I think, ever since it might have been 2017 when he missed that extra point against the Saints.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's how this show goes. We're very rarely right.
The only times we're right, it usually is because we joke about something and then enough time elapses that it becomes right.

Speaker 1 Because we were the first that Justin Tucker is washed as a joke. And now I think he legitimately might be washed.
He's 30th in the NFL in terms of accuracy this year in kickers. He also lost,

Speaker 1 he's no longer the most accurate kicker of all time. So he's in a battle by percentage points.
It's basically like tallying votes. Is that a coup?

Speaker 1 I think California still has like a million votes still left to go. No, it's Eddie Pinero.
Oh, really? Eddie Pinero is 89.38%,

Speaker 1 and Justin Tucker is 89.32%.

Speaker 1 If he goes three for three in his next three, he will be back at number one.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so this is like, you can do this with any player, really. You can say that they stink, that they're over the hill, and eventually you will be correct.

Speaker 4 But the only person who's probably immune to that was Barry Sanders.

Speaker 1 Well, and Tom Brady and Tom because Max Kellerman did it like every year, and then he looked like a fool every year.

Speaker 4 That's true. Yes, the uh, was that show, Dexter? It was like the Dexter on Showtime principle.
It's like you want to move on one season too early, not one season too late, right?

Speaker 1 Right, but Justin Tucker's a legitimate problem. He missed back-to-back field goals, it was the difference in this game.
The Steelers kicker Chris Boswell made all his field goals. Yeah, are like

Speaker 1 that was something that the Ravens always could just rely on. Like, hey, if we get past the 50-yard line, we're going to score points.

Speaker 1 Justin Tucker, like, are they, if you're a Ravens fan, are you legitimately worried now going into the playoffs? You have to be worried. This could be an issue that rears its ugly head.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the strength of your team, like, the most dominant player, one of the most dominant players ever at their position, Justin Tucker.

Speaker 4 I would say, like, for a while, Justin Tucker was as good at kicking as Tom Brady was at playing quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's automatic.

Speaker 4 Hank's nodding his head back and forth. You disagree, Hank?

Speaker 5 He was good for a few years.

Speaker 4 No, I'd say probably like seven years, eight years, Justin Tucker, unquestionably the best kicker in the history of the game.

Speaker 5 That's a stretch, but that's fine.

Speaker 4 I think it's probably. Harder position to play, too.

Speaker 4 Yes, that's accurate. I will give you that.
We are an international podcast, so I will make sure to cede important points to you. Yes.

Speaker 4 But yeah, Justin Tucker, there is an actual issue with him. I don't know.
If I was Harbaugh, I would probably just say that he was injured because you can't deactive.

Speaker 4 You can't bring in competition to kick against Justin Tucker if he's healthy, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, he still came in.

Speaker 1 After he missed those two, what he hit a 50-yarder later on in the game. So he's still good.
He's just not Justin Tucker.

Speaker 1 The Ravens essentially just have an average kicker now where it's like, I hope it goes in if it's deep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's essentially it. And then the big story, though, is Lamar can't figure out the Steelers.
He's now one in four

Speaker 1 in his career against the Steelers. He has as many wins against the Steelers as Russell Wilson has against the Ravens in this rivalry.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And the one win is against Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 4 It was Mason Rudolph and Duck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 In 2019.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you got half of Mason Rudolph, and then you had Duck Hodges in the second half. Besides that, he hasn't gotten it done.
Now, I looked this up.

Speaker 4 I went back to the start of the Harbaugh-Tomlin rivalry. So I think that's 2008.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Matchup between these two teams since 2008. The total points, Steelers are now winning by 10 points.

Speaker 1 That makes sense.

Speaker 4 Over the course of that entire time, that's an average of 0.3 points per game between the two of those guys.

Speaker 1 Every single game

Speaker 1 is just

Speaker 1 within a touchdown.

Speaker 1 It's usually a weird score. This was a weird score.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, if it's a two and a half point spread, just take the two and a half because it probably will be a one-point game. And yeah,

Speaker 1 it was pretty shocking to see the Ravens defense be bottled.

Speaker 1 Actually, weirdly, both defenses, like, I felt like overperformed because I knew the the Steelers' defense was really good, but I thought, you know, the Ravens' offense is really, really good.

Speaker 1 So they would have more success. And then the Ravens' secondary has been a problem all year, and the Steelers weren't able to

Speaker 1 gash them, really. Yeah.
So it's just both these teams, they get together and they just play old school football every time.

Speaker 4 On both sides, it was like neither team wanted to make a mistake. Yeah.
And so they were just taking what the defense was giving them.

Speaker 4 And the Steelers, yeah, the difference was the kicker in this game. A gray kicker and a wash kicker.

Speaker 1 And what's his name? The other Wilson for the Steelers. That interception he had was just man football.
Yes,

Speaker 1 he literally took it away, and that was a huge pivotal play.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I think both these teams are very good, but the Steelers, I think for the majority of this season, we've been playing this game in our head. We're like, the Steelers are good, but how good?

Speaker 1 Why aren't they in the category with everyone else when it comes to their defense? They are.

Speaker 4 Their defense has always been good.

Speaker 4 Like this modern era of the Steelers, they've always had a dominant defense, but then they've had to go out there and win games on their own sometimes.

Speaker 1 I would be concerned a little bit about Russell Wilson because it's, I mean, he was great in the fourth quarter against the Commanders, but he wasn't great the first three quarters.

Speaker 1 And then this game, are we getting back to like Russell Wilson just throwing check downs and being a little, you know, when he's under pressure, he doesn't have the mobility that he once had.

Speaker 4 I'm going to talk it up to just going against the Ravens. Okay.
Just the Ravens didn't want to give up anything big.

Speaker 1 That interception. Arthur Smith's face during that interception was perfect.
Because everyone was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 Russell Wilson had the largest target maybe in the NFL. Yeah.
The largest pass-catching target, and he just airmailed it by about, well, it really wasn't that high of a throw.

Speaker 4 I would like to see Washington try to jump up in the air.

Speaker 1 Agreed. He should have played defense on it, but it was more time and place.
It's a 15-10 game.

Speaker 1 If you get a field goal, you're up eight, and you just, like, the one thing you can't do is throw an interception.

Speaker 1 And then we also had, unfortunately for Justin Fields, his, it didn't, well, fortunately, it didn't matter, but his one big play was actually a really smart, well-designed uh QB run by Arthur Smith to try to win the game late and get that first down, and he slid like a full yard and a half short.

Speaker 4 And then he gave like the first down signal because he didn't know where the sticks were. That was bad.
And then they zoomed in on his face for about 15 seconds on this.

Speaker 4 I feel like that's most of the camera time that Justin Fields gets is right after a boneheaded mistake where they just show him staring off into the distance like he's in Vietnam and it just zooms in on him and he just looks upset.

Speaker 4 We also had, we get this every week. George Pickens temporarily goes insane during a game.
They were actually, I got two of them. I got two of them this week.

Speaker 4 So this is why we've said George Pickens is a must-watch player. Yes.
There needs to be an all-22 of just George Pickens, an all-1 of just George Pickens every single play.

Speaker 4 The first one was early in the first quarter. He caught a pass.
It was first and 10, goes out of bounds after two yards, and then makes the first down sign in the defensive back space. There was that.

Speaker 4 And then at one point, he caught a pass, and then he just started walking off the field.

Speaker 4 Like, when Forrest Gump just ran through the end zone into the tunnel, he was just walking down the field to nowhere.

Speaker 4 And Tomlin had to pull him off the field and explain to him, hey, the game's still going on.

Speaker 1 He just kept on walking.

Speaker 4 It's not halftime yet, George. But I just, I love watching this guy.
I can't get enough of him.

Speaker 1 It's so much fun.

Speaker 1 He's the absolute best.

Speaker 1 Okay, so yeah, the Steelers are sorry, the Ravens' chances to win the North went down to 37%

Speaker 1 with this loss. And the Steelers, Steelers do have a tough schedule, but

Speaker 1 Browns. Yeah.
Yeah, the ultimate Tomlin trap game.

Speaker 1 Let's play Whose Lines Anyway, if it's been released on DraftKings. The Browns are the bet on Thursday night because the Steelers are coming off.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's just Mike Tomlin is a dog all day, every day, and then they're going to go to Cleveland.

Speaker 5 Whose lines is it anyway? Four by DraftKings.

Speaker 1 I think Steelers minus three and a half.

Speaker 5 It's at Cleveland.

Speaker 1 At Cleveland.

Speaker 5 It is Steelers minus five and a half.

Speaker 1 Whoa. Okay.
Browns. Yeah.
Love it.

Speaker 4 Browns. Give me the Browns all day.
Browns. There's no reason for it, but Jameis, primetime, Steelers looking ahead.
Feeling good about themselves.

Speaker 1 Road favorite. Yeah.
Almost a touchdown.

Speaker 4 Yep. Munilot's going to be drunk as fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's Browns. This is a Munilot legacy game.

Speaker 1 You like that, Hank? That's Browns. That's Browns.
And the under.

Speaker 1 And the under.

Speaker 5 AFC North divisional games.

Speaker 1 These teams know how to play. Well, except for Ravens-Bengals.
Yeah. Literally like 150 points between the two of them.
Both games.

Speaker 1 Jamar Chase. I think Jamar Chase

Speaker 1 by himself hit every over.

Speaker 1 True. End of the season.
End of the season and not Ravens-Bengals.

Speaker 5 Well, no, now we're in those games.

Speaker 1 Those were in the early in the season. Got it.
It was last week. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
This is the end of the season.

Speaker 5 This was week one.

Speaker 1 This is week one of the AFC North Unders. Yes.
I like that. That's smart.
Hank,

Speaker 4 as a man with championship pedigree. I want to know.
As a man with championship pedigree, can you tell me when good teams should say that they start paying attention to football?

Speaker 5 I mean, you're always paying attention, but you're not really,

Speaker 5 it's the playoffs. This is this

Speaker 4 time. Would you say December even?

Speaker 5 Yeah, late November, December.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 5 Thanksgiving. Big Cat made a comment, and we'll probably probably get to it last week that kind of stuck with me when it was like,

Speaker 5 it's not even Thanksgiving. Yeah.
And the season's over.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And it's the opposite for good teams.

Speaker 1 It's like Thanksgiving is when it's really time to lock in and the season starts. But they also did make Thanksgiving extra late this year.
It's the latest it can possibly be.

Speaker 4 Is it on a Thursday this year?

Speaker 1 It's on a Thursday this year. But it is this week.
It's the latest it can possibly be.

Speaker 1 So, yeah. It kind of fucks everything up.
Yeah. Yeah, it should, yeah.
It should have been, it should be like in four days.

Speaker 4 Instead, it's in whatever 10 days I also have a real problem with the schedule makers because we've got six buys next week. Yeah, then we have no buys.

Speaker 1 Well, they have no buys because of Thanksgiving. You got to play on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 And then after Thanksgiving, we go back to six buys again. Yeah.
Don't like it.

Speaker 1 I actually do like the six buys just because it's less games to like I want to be able to you get through all the buys and you get to the other side and it's like you have buys because there's just a bunch of teams that are so bad you don't have to pay attention to it.

Speaker 4 They should be able to do flex scheduling but with buys.

Speaker 1 They should be able to to just, teams should be able to say, we're done. Opt out.
Yeah, we're done for the year.

Speaker 1 Like, there are definitely teams where if they said, hey, we're done for the year, you're going to pay all the players, that's fine, but we're done for the year. It'd be fine.
Be fine by me.

Speaker 1 Okay. Next game.
The reason the Sickos and Purverts are tuning in. Packers 20, Bears 19.

Speaker 1 I got... Fully baited.
I got fully drawn back in. Thought the Bears were going to win this game.

Speaker 1 Really thought the Bears were going to win this game. Matt LaFleur goes to 11-0

Speaker 1 against the Chicago Bears. We haven't beaten them since 2018.

Speaker 4 I got completely baited. So I went back a little bit further than that.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's like 52-14 or something?

Speaker 4 I went to in the Favre Rogers love.

Speaker 1 Since 92.

Speaker 4 In the Favre Rogers Love Willis Love era, the Packers are 51- Flynn. 15.
Flynn. 51-15.
I forgot Matt Flynn. He's the actual record.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, we can't beat them.
And this is a game we should have beaten them. And we played better than them.
And it doesn't matter. Can I? Because we have a stupid fucking head coach.

Speaker 1 There was a guy who wanted me to apologize to Matt Eberflus halfway through this game.

Speaker 1 Matt Eberflus is now 14 and 30 as a head coach. He's 5-17 in one score games.
He's 5-17 in one score games. And I want a little credit, Shane Waldron being the worst coach of all time.

Speaker 1 That actually turned out to be true.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the offense looked pretty good today.

Speaker 1 It looked significantly better. They basically were like, Caleb, get the ball out fast.
We're going to to try to run the ball. They called even amount of runs and passes.

Speaker 1 Caleb got the ball out of his hands in 2.3 seconds average.

Speaker 1 He was decisive. On third and fourth downs, he was 10 for 12 for 112 yards passing and 40 yards.
Yeah, 40 yards rushing. He got 10 first downs on those plays.

Speaker 1 Even the end of the game, third and 19.

Speaker 1 The Bears played well offensively all game. Then you get to the last two minutes.
It's like, all right, he's got to go on a drive. And

Speaker 1 they reverted back to the Bears of the last three weeks, sack, sack. And then Caleb gets him out of it.

Speaker 1 He's now, in the last four weeks, he's gone on two game-winning drives that Matt Iberfoos has fucked up.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think

Speaker 4 if you're a Bears fan, don't let the fact that you had a game-winning field goal distract you from the fact that Caleb should have been sacked on that play that he got out of

Speaker 4 and converted a miracle first down.

Speaker 1 It's just the fact that it's the Packers. That's the part that really kills because it's, it's,

Speaker 1 I'm, I'm not stupid to think that this team is a playoff team. And in reality, I don't even like Matty Braffo is such a bad head coach.
I don't want to keep this going for much longer.

Speaker 1 But the Packers, like, you can't, we can't beat the Packers. They have Voodoo Magic where Matt LaFour's 11-0.

Speaker 1 You have Caleb Williams, get him to the field goal range. And then all the quotes afterwards, just out-coached again.

Speaker 1 Rich Basatia, who we like, said in the team meetings on Saturday night, he said that he would be shocked.

Speaker 1 He wouldn't understand if they came out of the game today without a blocked field goal or extra point.

Speaker 1 And the Packers also said that in the last seconds of the game, several players, this is from Kaylin Kaler.

Speaker 1 She said, just talked to several players in the Packers field goal block unit, and all of them said they noticed that Cairo Santos kicked with a low trajectory when doing film study, and they expected the Bears to run another play, which in their opinion would have made it more difficult to block.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, if they'd run it, that's that's the question is why did the Bears just agree to a 46-yard field goal?

Speaker 1 Because we have a coach that's 5-17 and one-score games. And he also,

Speaker 1 he's coaching like a guy who has like a 10-year contract. He's coaching like he shouldn't push the buttons to be like, hey, you're a 4-5 team, now 4-6, that is spiraling out of control.

Speaker 1 You finally have

Speaker 1 a solid effort from offense. And, you know, the defense got gashed on some big plays.
We can get to that. But you finally are in a spot to win a game.

Speaker 1 And not only do you not run an extra play when you have a timeout in your back pocket to try to get closer, but in the drive before that,

Speaker 1 it's fourth and three on the 50-yard line. Try to win the game right there.
Like, try to win the game right there. I don't know.
There's four minutes left. Just go win the game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're right about him coaching like he has job secure. He needs to coach scared.
He's not scared. No,

Speaker 1 he coaches like extra scared, though.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but no, he needs to have not going forward forward on fourth and three.

Speaker 1 Right. He's the opposite of Dan Campbell.
He's the exact opposite of Dan Campbell. It's like he's nad damp.
It's so fucking frustrating.

Speaker 1 And at this point, so

Speaker 1 the part that really hurts is the Packers because we can't beat the Packers, and we finally were going to beat the Packers, and then, of course, we get a field goal block.

Speaker 1 By the way, I thought you couldn't touch the center when he had his head down.

Speaker 4 So I was going to give you some copium because I've got the screenshots, and I looked at them. Oh, yeah.
The people who are complaining about a no-call on that, you're actually right.

Speaker 4 They bowled over the long snapper on that last one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not going to complain because it's like

Speaker 1 the Bears are the Bears, and this is just, it was just bound to happen. I can't believe I fell for it.
I can't believe I thought we were actually going to hit that field goal.

Speaker 1 But at this point in the season,

Speaker 1 if we had won this game

Speaker 1 five and five, oh shit, we might be back in it. Like, I'd start thinking at this point, it's like it makes it pretty cut and dry.

Speaker 1 Just salvage Kilbs rookie season, more days like today, and make sure that you lose enough games that Matt Iberflues is gone. Yeah, so this is it.

Speaker 4 This might have been the perfect result then.

Speaker 1 But it's still the Packers. That's the part that hurts.

Speaker 1 If it was anyone else, I would have been like, I could have, I could have, if it was the Vikings, if it was any other team, I could have twisted myself and been like, you know what?

Speaker 1 That was actually a good loss. The fact that it was the Packers and Packers fans are going to go away being like, oh, we're so much better than the Bears.
And yeah, I know they are, but like,

Speaker 1 Jordan Love is throwing the interception every fucking game.

Speaker 4 I got a question for you, though. When it comes to the low kick trajectory thing, that's not really a coaching point.

Speaker 4 Kyro Santos has to kick with a low trajectory because he's got a very accurate leg. He's a good kicker, but he doesn't have the biggest leg in the world.

Speaker 4 Like, he has a 2009 leg where 56 yards an in, you can probably count on him to get it there, but he's not going to set any records.

Speaker 4 So to kick it that distance, you have to have lower trajectory than most other kickers do.

Speaker 1 But But that's why you go get more yards. That's why you get more.

Speaker 1 That was what the Packers were saying. They were surprised they didn't run another play.
That's the coaching part.

Speaker 1 That's the coaching part where he had a timeout and the Packers are like, they're going to run another play because they know what we know, that he has a low trajectory.

Speaker 1 But no, he's,

Speaker 1 it's just, it's so frustrating because it's the Packers. That's the part that kills me because I fucking hate the Packers and all they do is beat the fuck out of us time and time again.

Speaker 1 And it was going to be so big that like Caleb Williams beat the Packers his first start against the Packers and everything was going to be good for a week until we played the Vikings and then the Lions on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 But I was going to have one week where everything was good. And

Speaker 1 I thought about it and I believed it and I thought it was going to happen and then it just didn't happen. And we're back to there.

Speaker 4 It's frustrating. You would have had such a good night's sleep.

Speaker 1 I would have had such a good night's sleep.

Speaker 4 Post-win sleep is so good.

Speaker 1 DJ Moore's back. Shane Waldron caused all his problems too.
Yeah, DJ Moore. He looks great.
Four receivers over 40 yards.

Speaker 4 The great part about what they did with DJ Moore was they got him the ball early. So they're like, we're not going to let this guy have time to get upset at the quarterback.

Speaker 1 Shane Waldron was the worst coach of all time. You can't tell me differently.
And that is also

Speaker 1 on the head of Matt Eberflues. That's on the head of Ryan Poles.
The fact that Shane Waldron was hired is just an abomination.

Speaker 1 The Bears looked so dead the last three games, and to have an offense that was actually functional this week just is such an indictment on Shane Waldron being the offensive coordinator for a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they look great.

Speaker 4 The offense looked really, really really good this week.

Speaker 1 They still didn't get, I mean, I wish we had scored a couple touchdowns. And then, of course, Jordan Love,

Speaker 1 he just, no matter what, like two or three times a game, he's just going to throw a deep bomb to Christian Watson and it's going to work. And I knew it was going to work.

Speaker 1 And I knew, and like, there's nothing you can do about it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I hate that. It's like when Josh rolls out to the sidelines and he's going to his right, you know that he's about to do something crazy and unspeakable to a defense.

Speaker 4 That's what it's like when Jordan Love starts backpedaling. Yeah.
Like, here it comes.

Speaker 1 God damn it. Just fucking

Speaker 1 win that game.

Speaker 4 Is it week 17?

Speaker 1 I don't even know. I think it's week 18 that we win.
Wee game again.

Speaker 4 So last game of the season.

Speaker 1 And it's just the fact that, like, the two, now I'm going to play the game where it's like, if Matt Eberflus plays sideline defense against the Commanders on the play before the Hail Mary, and if he runs another play or two in this game, the Bears could be sitting at 6-4, and I'd be thinking Yaffs.

Speaker 4 In the hunt.

Speaker 1 And I'd be thinking, holy shit, everything looks different. And it'd be like, oh, Caleb Williams has gone on two game-winning drives.
And yeah, it's been bad at times.

Speaker 1 I'm not, I, I've never said I was giving up on Caleb Williams. I still think that whoever they hire as the next coach will be very, very important.
But this was a good day for him.

Speaker 1 And I, I, it was good to bounce it back. He addressed the whole team and apologized to them for his part in getting Shane Waldron fired.
He should have actually been like, you guys should thank me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because Shane Waldron never should have had a job.

Speaker 4 I've got the schedule right here. You You do have the Packers week 18, last game of the season.
I know this

Speaker 4 you could play spoiler and that would be a great win if you go into Lambeau and then the next day, if they don't fire Iberflues the day after that, then that would be literally your January 6th. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Stormy. Yeah, no, we would.
We'd have to. We'd have no other choice.
A little dust up, as Jack D'Rio said.

Speaker 1 Hank, do you have any questions that are going to put me in a bind

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 make me talk out of both sides of my mouth? You're really good at that.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 No, you usually ask a question, then I give an answer, and then the people are like, Well, you said this, and now you're saying this, and I get, you know,

Speaker 1 I'm an emotional wreck. I just, I mean, and then the Badgers on Saturday night, that was devastating.
Don't smile at me like that, Max. I would just like to point out, you went like this.

Speaker 4 I would just like to point out that I agree with you.

Speaker 6 That was a tough loss. I was rooting for the Badgers.

Speaker 4 On Friday's show,

Speaker 4 it was brought up that if the Bears look good against the Packers, you might be like, Bears are all the way back during the game. Did Did you think that the Bears were back?

Speaker 1 I said, Bears might, I think I tweeted exactly, Bears might be back. Situation remains fluid.
Okay. They had to win the game.
Caleb looks confident.

Speaker 6 Today was a positive day for me.

Speaker 1 I understand, but it's the Packers. But who came?

Speaker 1 I do. What do you mean? It was the Packers.
Max, I agree with you. Everything you're saying is correct, but it's the Packers.
We can't beat the Packers.

Speaker 1 Matt LaFleur has literally never lost to the Bears. It's insane.
It's like the beating just won't stop.

Speaker 4 It just happens every year like clockwork.

Speaker 1 So if it was any other team, if this was a game against fucking the 49ers, I would have been like, you know what? Rookie quarterback, we're still working on things.

Speaker 1 Next year's the year, that was great performance by Caleb Williams, but it's the Packers. And we had the game.
We had it.

Speaker 6 That field goal was never going in. It was never going in.

Speaker 1 If he didn't block it,

Speaker 1 if they didn't assault the long snapper,

Speaker 4 might it might be a good thing it got blocked there's worse ways to lose a game on a he easily could have just missed it it was going in it was going in

Speaker 1 it was going in he don't miss kayla williams looked really good this is this is a good day for bears fans has to be a good day for bears we lost to the pack that's crazy that's not that you would if you if the roles were reversed and it was the cowboys for you and you were going through the same thing also matt eberflues Fuck you, dude.

Speaker 1 He said tough times don't last. Tough people do.

Speaker 1 First of all, you're not going to last, buddy he has second of all tough times do last what was the stat it was 55 and 15 it was going back to 1992 the start of brett farr 51 15.

Speaker 1 that's literally tough times lasting

Speaker 1 tough times literally do not stop it's just tough times i just saw the uh replay of the attempted field goal that was going to go in yeah it was that was going to go in we've beaten the packers like like three times in the last 10 years.

Speaker 4 All right, so can I just confess that while watching the game, I wanted the Bears to win. I wanted that field goal to to go in.
I wanted Big Guette to be happy.

Speaker 4 However, during the setup, I thought, how fucking funny would this be if it double-doinked?

Speaker 4 That would have been funny. There's worse ways to lose.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, it would have been funny for a lot of people. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I'm still rooting for the roller coaster, so I was really, really hoping that the game was.

Speaker 1 That was going to be all the way back in, yeah.

Speaker 5 Also, that was the worst overgame to have in the history of overgames.

Speaker 6 You need to see points, and they stopped at the goal line twice, two-point conversion, missed twice, and the block field goal.

Speaker 5 It was the worst overgame.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, defense played well in that goal line saying they just couldn't stop the long

Speaker 1 passes. It was just Jordan Love would just rip a 60-yarder.

Speaker 1 All right, so Hank, you got any last questions that will twist me up and will end up being in the roller coaster reel at the end of the year?

Speaker 5 No, I felt bad. I was looking at the game, looking at the record, and I was like, if the Bears win this game, the records are going to be one game apart.
They could be better than the Packers.

Speaker 5 Not the last team in the NFC North. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I'll say this, Max. You're wrong on the take that it was a good day for the Bears.
It was not because we lost the Packers.

Speaker 1 The one positive out of this is the rest of the season is as clear as it could possibly be. Just have Caleb Williams be good and not regress

Speaker 1 and not look like last three weeks Caleb Williams looked like this Sunday Caleb Williams and get Matt Eberflues fired. That's it.
That's it.

Speaker 1 Those are the only two objectives at the rest of the season. That's it.
There's nothing else that matters. He looked good, though.

Speaker 4 Winning and losing, which is a good thing.

Speaker 1 Does not matter because we know Matt Ibraflus, if given the chance to win, he will choose the loss every time.

Speaker 4 Max is confusing seeing good signs with having a good day.

Speaker 1 And it also is against the Packers. He's just completely, like, he's pretending like he doesn't become a nervous wreck when he plays the Cowboys.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I get it.

Speaker 6 I get it. But the Bears were never doing anything this year, and Caleb Williams looked good, and you don't have to freak out of him.

Speaker 5 They win that game.

Speaker 5 No, I'm looking, the schedule is

Speaker 1 the gauntlet of all.

Speaker 1 No, it's why the last three weeks i've been as emotional as i have been because the schedule was going to be a disaster all right another positive thing on thanksgiving that's going to be we're going to get fucking smoked on thanksgiving holy but imagine if you don't suck imagine if you don't

Speaker 1 that would be fun

Speaker 1 that would be fun i'll i'll agree with you guys that'd be fun yeah another positive thing the offensive line looked good yeah because they actually ran the ball and they actually got the ball out fast turns out if you don't make caleb williams go through five progressions and also you you tell Caleb Williams, hey, just fucking throw it underneath if the guy's open.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Things can work.
Who is that? You play to your strengths.

Speaker 4 Who's your tackle that laid that block?

Speaker 1 Braxton Jones.

Speaker 4 Braxton is a road grandmother. Yeah.
Where has that been? Offensive linemen have to be so pissed off at Shane Waldron.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because they're not being asked to block for a million seconds anymore where the route trees don't make sense and no one's open.

Speaker 1 Like it was very clear that they were like, Caleb, throw the ball when a guy's open and just get the ball out of your hands. And when you do that, your offensive line line can look good.

Speaker 4 And also, if you don't see anybody open, just run.

Speaker 1 The Packers fucking stink. They stink.
Okay? They're not winning shit this year.

Speaker 1 They aren't. You guys agree?

Speaker 4 I don't think they're going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 They're not winning shit.

Speaker 1 Jordan Love just throws fucking balls.

Speaker 6 You probably would have said the same thing about the.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 6 Like last year at this time.

Speaker 1 They ain't winning shit. They stink.

Speaker 4 Josh Jacobs is pretty good.

Speaker 6 Jordan Love's not fully healthy.

Speaker 1 He's fucking healthy. He's healthy.

Speaker 1 If he's throwing a pick, he's healthy. That's Jordan Love.

Speaker 4 They have a kicker now. He throws picks.

Speaker 1 That's what he does.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Rams 28, Patriots, 22. Henry?

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Drake May looked good. Drake May looked good.

Speaker 5 Bad interception at the end, last play of the game.

Speaker 1 That might have been on the receiver, too.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was a weird route. It looked like he was wide open.
Miscommunication.

Speaker 5 Kind of what I thought might happen where Safford picked apart the defense. They kind of did whatever they wanted.
Through for four touchdowns, Drake May looked good.

Speaker 5 Exciting loss.

Speaker 1 Exciting loss. I love that.

Speaker 4 You're excited. Look at you.
It was a fun, it was a fun game to watch.

Speaker 5 And again, like going into this season, I wasn't expecting to go into the Sundays expecting to win. I'm not super disappointed that they lost, but Drake May looked good.
It was a fun game to watch.

Speaker 4 He had a bad fumble. He did.

Speaker 5 His hands moving forward. It was kind of like a a tuck rule situation.

Speaker 4 Small hands.

Speaker 1 You basically watched my game, except you weren't playing a rival. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who beat your brains out?

Speaker 5 And we also weren't going into the season being like Drake May as the best talent.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, all right.

Speaker 5 And this is going to be a huge year, yoffs, etc. Right.

Speaker 5 But yeah.

Speaker 1 You didn't want to play him at all this year.

Speaker 5 No, that was a mistake. I don't know.
I don't know. Well,

Speaker 1 if we're just doing like takes from August, we could go take for take.

Speaker 5 Band for band?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we could go band band for band.

Speaker 1 I don't want to look in the past, though. Yeah, no, me neither.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Drake Mate, he was like under a lot of pressure and he looked good.

Speaker 5 He had a couple like, you know, blitz coming at him, guys running at him full speed, still throwing it, making completions, driving the ball down the field. Another like five drops from receivers.

Speaker 4 Yeah, every time I see Booty, he's dropping a ball.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, there's.

Speaker 5 Pats need some help on the receiving side.

Speaker 1 They do.

Speaker 4 Is that the draft or free agency?

Speaker 5 Probably the draft.

Speaker 4 I would would be scared if I were you about the Patriots drafting receivers. I feel like it never works out.

Speaker 5 But we never draft receivers.

Speaker 5 Like, we're going to, in theory, have a chance at the best receiver.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but you guys have tried to draft good receivers before. Right.
And they just end up not being good.

Speaker 5 But we don't draft. We've never had a chance at drafting the best receiver in the draft.

Speaker 1 Are you saying the best receiver or the best cornerback?

Speaker 1 Maybe both. Oh, Travis Hunter? Oh, good, good point.

Speaker 5 Or this guy from Arizona.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 But Travis Hunter would be the best of both.

Speaker 1 Get two players. So the Rams,

Speaker 1 they needed this win bad. And they also, they started slow again.

Speaker 1 They are being outscored by 50 points in the first quarter this year, which leads the NFL.

Speaker 1 I still don't really know what to make of the NFC West other than the only team I trust is the Arizona Cardinals. Maybe.

Speaker 4 Maybe trust the Cardinals. I don't know.
I feel like the Rams.

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 4 At their best,

Speaker 4 the Rams are better than the Cardinals, I think. But at their best, the Niners are better than the Cardinals, but neither team is ever at their best.

Speaker 1 The Cardinals killed the Rams. I know.
Like, obliterated them.

Speaker 4 I know, but I don't know. I don't think that I trust the Cardinals either.

Speaker 1 I think I trust them more than the Rams at this point, and maybe the 49ers. I might just be all in on the Cardinals.

Speaker 4 I think I just love Cooper Cup and Puka Nakua.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they're awesome. I mean, Cooper Cup, that was...
His beard. There was no one around him.

Speaker 5 No, that was like the easiest touchdown.

Speaker 1 70 yards right down the dick.

Speaker 1 And Matthew Safford, like, whenever he,

Speaker 1 even though they started slow, he'll just rip a couple passes in a game where you're like, holy fuck, no one else can make that pass. Yeah.
Like the Puka Nakua touchdown was insane.

Speaker 6 Is the Rams a pinky team or a Falcons a pinky team?

Speaker 1 The Rams are the pinky teams. The Rams are the pinky team.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I think the Cardinals are the best team in the West right now. I mean, right now,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just saw, like, the Rams, I expected the Rams to win this game.
They just started really slow again. I was like, what's going on?

Speaker 1 And they also also didn't really have that, like, they let the Patriots kind of hang around as well. Maybe the Patriots are just better than I think.

Speaker 5 I think the Patriots are good. Like, I think they've turned the corner.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 they're now in like a frisky spoiler role.

Speaker 5 The post-mutiny Drake May era

Speaker 5 feels different.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it does feel different.

Speaker 1 It feels real different.

Speaker 5 Guys are excited. He's giving speeches.
Big speeches. Everyone's fired up.

Speaker 4 We'll see how his speech is this week.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, that fumble, that fumble was basically an instant touchdown. They lost by six points.
Like,

Speaker 5 you know, a couple mistakes here, a couple mistakes there. They could have won that game.

Speaker 4 I did look up his hand size because I was like,

Speaker 4 is this a cold weather November, December type fumble? I forgot he only has nine and an eighth-inch hands. Oh, no.
That's why the ball looks so heavy. Who told us that? Somebody said

Speaker 1 he throws a heavy ball

Speaker 1 in their analysis.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was pissed that he drafted him.

Speaker 4 But yeah,

Speaker 1 you were Matt. No, false.

Speaker 4 I think you want to trade back and get like Joe Alt.

Speaker 5 I wanted Jaden Daniels, but.

Speaker 4 Yeah, would have been a good pick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Hank, you're... So are you now ⁇ are you tanking or spoiling?

Speaker 1 I'm in a very important spot.

Speaker 5 I'm exactly

Speaker 5 going to be in this spot every Sunday where I don't want to root for the Patriots to lose. I'm not going to say let's tank because who knows with the draft.
I don't have experience in the draft game.

Speaker 5 It's not a sure thing. I will be rooting for the Patriots to win games as I was today.
If they lose, I will instantly be like, that's good, good draft position. Welcome to

Speaker 1 this side of the table.

Speaker 5 I don't want to tank. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's been every season. I want to see.

Speaker 5 I would prefer to spoil.

Speaker 1 It's between the white lines.

Speaker 1 Every week

Speaker 1 you're like, I don't care if we win this game. Then the game starts.
You're like, I want to win this game. Then you lose.
And the game ends. You're like, that was good.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then after you, if you happen to win a game on Sunday, you feel good about it for like 30 minutes and then you're like, oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 That was pointless. Then you go to tank-a-thon.

Speaker 4 It's post-win clarity. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm basically back in that spot. Yeah, let's spoil.

Speaker 1 Let's start spoiling.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 you got two opportunities to spoil something for the Bills.

Speaker 1 Oh, that would be, oh, man, now I'm thinking about how I can get my revenge.

Speaker 1 What if the Bears and the Patriots end up with the same record, but because they beat us, we get a higher pick and that guy becomes a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 4 That'd be nice.

Speaker 5 That's some serious cope.

Speaker 1 That would be nice.

Speaker 4 Learn how to cope, buddy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got a lot more of that where it came from. Just twisting my brain around, trying to find wins where there's losses because there's nothing but losses.

Speaker 5 I don't see it as a competition. I want all our guys to do well.

Speaker 4 No, you don't. That's a fucking lie.
No, it is.

Speaker 1 That's such a lie.

Speaker 4 You want the Eagles to do well?

Speaker 5 No, ours and our guys are quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. You don't want the Eagles to do well.

Speaker 6 You want Jalen Hurts to do well? No.

Speaker 1 You don't want the Jets to do well.

Speaker 4 So by R,

Speaker 1 I mean this room.

Speaker 1 You want the NFC brothers. Well, no, not

Speaker 1 guys. Our guys.

Speaker 1 Our guys. Yeah.
Our three guys. You all took the wrong guy, but we'll get to that later.
What? Oh, Bo Nix.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's

Speaker 1 we are. I am a Boliever.

Speaker 1 You're not wrong. Bo Liever.
Bo Nix is

Speaker 1 incredible.

Speaker 4 Hank, I do have a question for you. Did you find out who the Keeper of the Light was?

Speaker 5 No, I'm so.

Speaker 1 How have you not been able to get this fact?

Speaker 4 There's something screwed up. I texted one person.

Speaker 5 They didn't answer me.

Speaker 4 Because they haven't publicized this information. They did no press about it.
It's not on the website.

Speaker 4 I think either they didn't have a Keeper of the Light or they're embarrassed about who the Keeper of the Light was.

Speaker 5 I'm still on it. I'll get it by the end of the show.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 4 It is funny when you go to the Gillette Stadium website and you can look through the pictures. There's

Speaker 1 one of Hank.

Speaker 4 Took a screenshot of it.

Speaker 1 It's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. We need to find this, Hank.

Speaker 5 I'm on it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Next game, Saints 35.
Browns 14. Taysom Hill is back.
And Darren Rizzi, he's got the Rizzi juice. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Guys, 2-0, first head coach, or only other head coach to go 2-0 for the Saints to start their career is Sean Payton.

Speaker 1 I still can't believe, I mean, there's a lot of Darren Rizzi left, but Darren Rizzy did

Speaker 1 interview for the job that Dennis Allen ended up getting, the 8-28 man, Dennis Allen.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Rizzy Juice, like, he has like high, he has celebrations and handshakes with all his players. The guy just hasn't pumped up.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they play hard, and Taysom Hill had a stat line that has never been done before in the NFL today.

Speaker 4 It was just, they built the entire team out of Taysom, and they say, okay, you go ahead and you do your weird thing where you just run people over, you catch passes, you return kicks, you throw interceptions.

Speaker 4 What did he have, three touchdowns?

Speaker 1 He had seven rushes, 138 yards, three touchdowns, eight catches for 50 yards, and he threw an interception.

Speaker 1 He did the Jimmy V, like, you got to laugh, you got to cry, you got to, you know, do something for someone or whatever. Yeah, you got to do it all, and that will be a full day.

Speaker 1 Taysom Hill was everything in this game. And the Browns' defense was,

Speaker 1 I don't know what happened, but they were the arm tackle kings today. They just tried to just swipe at Taysom Hill, who's an absolute load.

Speaker 1 And they look so bad. And Jameis didn't even play bad.

Speaker 1 Like, he, I mean, he didn't, obviously they didn't win, and they could have scored more points, but like he didn't have any terrible Jameis interceptions.

Speaker 1 He's so much fun to watch because every snap for Jameis is either deep ball or

Speaker 1 it's like a fire alarm drill inside the pocket where he's just like running around and doing this the high knees and everything.

Speaker 4 His touchdown pass that he had early in the game to the back corner of the end zone was an awesome throw. Then he had another to, I think it was Jerry Judy, where Jerry Judy did most of the work.

Speaker 4 But it's cool to see the Browns functioning as like, you know, a reasonable offense in the NFL. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to say that they're a good offense right now, but they do look qualified to be playing football on Sundays.

Speaker 1 He threw 395 and two touchdowns. Yeah.
And it's just the Browns' defense was atrocious today. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Taysom Hill, I don't know what, it almost looked like they were, it looked like at points, like Taysom Hill, you know, when we always see those, we'll see like a random clip from like a Pop Warner game where there's one eight-year-old who's somehow 6'2,

Speaker 1 like 220, and everyone's just bouncing off him? That's what the Browns look like against Taysom Hill.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you have to bring at least three guys to bring him down. Yeah.
When he gets ahead of steam, he might even just run through three guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 4 I would like to see Taysom Hill get an entire season starting at quarterback.

Speaker 1 Remember that one game when Troy Aikman was just like, he's way better than Drew Brees. Yeah.
He kind of was at that point in Drew Brees' career.

Speaker 4 They called him a poor man's Lamar Jackson at one point, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, his throwing's not great, but

Speaker 1 he can run the rock.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I can't wait to see what the Pope tweets about this game.

Speaker 1 Have you been following that? Yeah, he's been been doing the hashtag Saints.

Speaker 4 Hashtag Saints. Yeah.
All the time.

Speaker 1 Also, the Browns, Dustin Hopkins is terrible.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so are kickers shittier than they've ever been in the NFL?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it seems like it. They've gone that way.
Also, Darren Ricksburgs.

Speaker 4 One through seven, we were like, the kickers are too good. Now kickers just suck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Darren Rizzy also might just have great field goal defense because it happened last week with Young Hoku. Yep.
Something about Rizzy, Rizzy Magic. He's got a missing everything.

Speaker 1 But Dustin Hopkins missed two field goals, but really three, because there was a penalty, and he missed like a 27-yarder.

Speaker 4 Yeah, chip shot.

Speaker 1 Terrible.

Speaker 4 Make the goalposts wider.

Speaker 5 I got the Keepers of the Light.

Speaker 1 Oh, you do?

Speaker 5 It was Families of the Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors for Salute to Service.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, cool.
That's great. Salute to Service.
Salute to Service. Shout out to them.

Speaker 4 Maybe put out a tweet with them. Maybe publicize a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Is Darren Rizzy going to get this head coaching job?

Speaker 4 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 What if he fucks around and does?

Speaker 4 I mean, that'd be great, but I almost would prefer to have a black magic guy like Darren Rizzi in your back pocket as an interim head coach in case you need him.

Speaker 1 But here's the question. So

Speaker 1 the Saints are in Cap Hell. The Saints roster is a mess.

Speaker 1 What guy, I know everyone, like, there's only 32 jobs, so there will always be someone who wants the job, but it's not going to be the top job that people are looking for.

Speaker 1 Could it just be Darren Rizzi?

Speaker 4 If you're looking for a guy to manage your way through Cap Hell and to win some games that you probably shouldn't win,

Speaker 4 but also cap out at like six wins a season, get the boys to fight hard for you, then he would be your guy.

Speaker 1 Right. You could do worse.
You could do Dennis Allen.

Speaker 4 Yeah, bring him back.

Speaker 1 Dennis Allen.

Speaker 1 They literally were like, oh,

Speaker 1 you've coached before. You were 8-28.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 4 Do you think Dennis Allen is still rooting for the Saints?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I don't even think Dennis Allen's watching football.

Speaker 1 He probably watches football like

Speaker 1 my five-year-old watches football. He's just watching and being like, what does that mean? What is the first down?

Speaker 4 He might hate football, too, because he associates it with so many bad memories of losing games. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's like, oh, that's a game I would lose.

Speaker 1 You know how

Speaker 1 representation matters.

Speaker 1 You need to see yourself on the screen in movies and stuff. Dennis Allen, every game, no matter what the game, he just sees himself as a losing head coach.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Even when it's the Saints, he's like, oh, man. I feel bad for that.
I feel bad for Kevin Stefanski right now.

Speaker 4 That would be me right now. That sucks.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, no, Dennis, you were coaching the Saints, the team that won that game. He's like, yeah, but it still would have been me.

Speaker 4 I got to know if the Risonator clogged a toilet before the game. Yeah.
You should just say that he did.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What does it matter? Although then someone would investigate and be like, he actually didn't, and that would be a big to-do.

Speaker 4 That would be a to-do, yeah.

Speaker 4 But he does look like a man that could clog a toilet with his piss. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you see his celebration with one of the guys? Yeah. He's the best.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's great.

Speaker 1 I thought the interim juice, I was wrong about this game. I thought the Browns were going to win this game because I thought it was just going to

Speaker 1 be gone after a game. But I think Rizzy might have enough juice to have it.
They might finish.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be shocked if he wins a few more games down the stretch.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, I'm going to root for the Saints fans because they're one of the coolest fan bases in the NFL.

Speaker 1 And they also have to deal with Brian Kelly right now.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so ultimately, I think where I'm at is where Hank is at with the Patriots.

Speaker 4 Monday through Friday, I want the Saints to lose, and then on Sunday, when I'm watching them, I want them to win. Yeah.
Yeah. For their own goodness.

Speaker 1 That feels good. That feels good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Colts 28, Jets 27.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Anthony Richardson. He played well today.
The Jets made him look good.

Speaker 1 Maybe the time on the bench helped. I also feel like Shane Steichen did a lot better job of playing to his strengths, a lot more designed runs.

Speaker 1 He threw the ball well, still a couple inaccurate passes, but it doesn't matter. He likes two big drives in the fourth quarter,

Speaker 1 two rushing touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Like this was a good day for Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 4 I have a radical suggestion for the Colts. Yeah.
You know how we talk about going two QB system? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Why not just have Joe Flacco be your quarterback until you get to the red zone?

Speaker 4 And then put Anthony Richardson in.

Speaker 1 But Anthony Richardson was throwing he was throwing deep balls too today.

Speaker 4 He does air it out.

Speaker 1 He was 9 for 12, 185 yards on passes 10 plus yards.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he looked good against the vaunted Jets defense.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 I'm not going to take anything away from Anthony Richardson. He's had a

Speaker 1 tough go of it this year,

Speaker 1 especially with the last few weeks coming out of the game and getting benched. I thought that was a win for, I mean, it was a win for the Colts, but it was a win for Anthony Richardson.
And

Speaker 1 they're still in the playoff hunt with Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 4 No, I didn't mean that as a slate against Anthony. I meant that as a slate towards the Jets defense.
Yes.

Speaker 1 No, no, the Jets' defense is atrocious.

Speaker 1 I have a stat for you.

Speaker 1 Zach Wilson era for the New York Jets, winning percentage, 364.

Speaker 4 Aaron Rodgers is way better than that.

Speaker 1 Sam Darnold, winning percentage for the Jets, 342.

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers, winning percentage with the Jets,

Speaker 1 273.

Speaker 1 They all had seasons. Seasons.

Speaker 1 Multiple seasons. But if Aaron Rodgers has multiple seasons at 273, it might actually get worse.
Or it could get better if they just never lose next year.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's a good point.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so next year, is he going to be on the team next year?

Speaker 1 I don't think so. I saw a couple of reports that even if he wants to play...

Speaker 1 Oh, they're going to say no? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Where did you see those reports?

Speaker 1 I believe it was Connor Hughes. Okay.
Okay. Sounds like a Rossini.

Speaker 1 No, he works for SMY. Okay.
Yeah. Because

Speaker 1 that's interesting.

Speaker 4 I did read her article, and she said that they might not want her back. Yeah.
No, she didn't credit her when she delivers good news.

Speaker 1 Is that good news?

Speaker 1 Is that good or bad news? What? If he doesn't, if they don't want him back. I don't know.

Speaker 1 The future is not bright.

Speaker 4 What did you say when they asked him?

Speaker 1 He said, I think so, yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, that's a good answer. He wants to come back.

Speaker 1 Did you cheer like the crowd cheered when the Jets got their first first down

Speaker 1 under the two-minute warning in the first half? I was fired up. Okay.

Speaker 1 What about when Aaron Rodgers, instead of throwing an interception because he wants to

Speaker 1 make sure his stats feel okay, took a sack to end the game?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that entire sequence was horrible.

Speaker 1 The pass, pass, the lateral behind the line of scrimmage that went 20 yards backwards, didn't know what that was. Then he threw it to the middle of the field.

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 pain.

Speaker 4 I do feel bad for you, memes.

Speaker 1 No, thanks. I do.
I do too, but not really because it's Aaron Rodgers. If there's any other quarterback, I'd be like.

Speaker 1 Although, maybe I feel bad for you because I really wish this had happened with him on the Packers.

Speaker 1 Like, this isn't really doing anything for me.

Speaker 4 It's just hurting you. I have a question for you, memes.

Speaker 4 If you had a time machine and we sent memes back in time, like a year and a half, as you're courting Aaron Rodgers, what do you tell the Jets' front office? Are you like screaming?

Speaker 4 Are you waving your hands being like, please don't, don't sign this guy? Or do you say, yeah, let's try it and hope he doesn't tear his Achilles this time?

Speaker 1 Are you killing baby Hitler?

Speaker 1 I think so.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I think so, yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay. So I think you could say, like, definitively, Aaron Rodgers, he probably regrets going to the Jets and picking the Jets as his team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but everything comes back to his Achilles.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but I'm wondering if the Jets feel the same way. Like, we really fucked up by bringing Aaron.

Speaker 1 No, everything comes back to drafting Zach Wilson.

Speaker 4 Oh, so it goes further. Yeah, it goes further back.

Speaker 1 All right, so. But that entire draft was terrible, so whatever quarterback you pick is just would have sucked.
So the Achilles, though, that was...

Speaker 1 If the Achilles doesn't happen, do you think that all this plays out differently?

Speaker 1 Yes, because you have that entire year to evaluate the Jets and how it went. Then you could evaluate how Robert Sala did with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 You could evaluate how Aaron Rodgers did that entire season. You could be like, all right, he's washed.
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 I could have drafted a quarterback this year because there was fucking seven of them.

Speaker 1 I agree with you. And also, I mean, Robert Salah obviously was a big scapegoat.
The Jets' defense is so bad since he's left. I know it wasn't great when he was still there, but like.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, the season wasn't.

Speaker 1 As soon as they fired him, the season was over. Yeah.
Demonti Adams didn't fix anything. Hasan Reddick, I don't even know if he's still on the fucking team.

Speaker 4 Yeah, is he?

Speaker 1 He is, but he just doesn't do anything.

Speaker 4 Oh, man. What about Ahmed Gardner?

Speaker 1 He's having a bad year. He'll bounce back next year.

Speaker 1 Golf. Golf.
Andres Carlson might have found a cricket for the next 10 years. Oh, wow.
That's huge.

Speaker 6 Memes ripped Aaron Rodgers' head off.

Speaker 4 Oh, what'd you do?

Speaker 1 What do you do? We have a sad bad head. Wait.

Speaker 4 Oh, like, literally ripped his head off.

Speaker 1 Is it in there?

Speaker 6 Yeah. Yep.
Let me change the the camera so that people can see it.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 You ripped his head off? Yeah, I had to cut it off. Why did you do that? Oh, man.

Speaker 4 I mean, you took off the top 5% of his body.

Speaker 1 Did you watch the game here?

Speaker 1 No, in my apartment. And you were just.

Speaker 1 How was that going? Sad. Shit.

Speaker 1 It was sad.

Speaker 1 I saw you tweet. Did the Bears and the Jets lose at the exact same time? Exact same time.

Speaker 1 Field goal got blocked. Aaron Rodgers got sacked.
Oh, man.

Speaker 4 So, right now, at three and eight, you guys will be picking seventh.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 Hold on, though, memes.

Speaker 1 Memes, shut up, Max. Max is the only one who won in week 11.
He's loving it. Loving it.
Memes, hold on, hold on. Just hold on a second.

Speaker 1 Seahawks at home. Loss.
At Dolphins. Loss.
At Jaguars. Win.
Rams, Bills.

Speaker 1 You guys could run the table. Loss.
Nine and eight.

Speaker 1 Loss, loss, loss. Do you think that will they ever stop making the Jets favorites?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 1 They were four-point favorites in this game.

Speaker 4 Are they going to be favored against the Seahawks? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Whose line is it anyway? DraftKings.

Speaker 4 No way. They're the worst team that has been favored in this game.

Speaker 1 They can't be favored in this game. They can't be.

Speaker 1 It's got to be Seahawks like minus two,

Speaker 1 minus three.

Speaker 5 Do they have a buy? Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's a bye.

Speaker 4 Shit. All right.

Speaker 1 Probably lost a bye. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They can't be favored against Seahawks.

Speaker 4 They'll be favored against the bye, memes.

Speaker 6 You've got to be excited for the buy.

Speaker 6 You need a week off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you do need a week off. You need a week off bad.

Speaker 4 What about this, memes? You come back from the bye, and you want to win more games.

Speaker 1 There's nothing to look forward to.

Speaker 4 No, Aaron Rodgers might be appointed ambassador to Costa Rica.

Speaker 1 Ooh. How about that? That's sick.

Speaker 4 I mean, I just made that up, Hank.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I could tell. Yeah.
So, memes,

Speaker 1 is it hurt that this guy is sitting right here?

Speaker 1 No, the Patriots also suck. Yeah, but

Speaker 1 don't shake your hand. The Patriots fucking suck.
I mean,

Speaker 1 they have this record.

Speaker 1 Same record so much brighter. It doesn't matter.
Josh Allen is still in the division. Okay, but it doesn't matter.
Same record.

Speaker 1 Same record, and they beat you. We all beat them.
Okay, but same record, and they they have a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 5 We've also beaten the Bills before.

Speaker 1 We'll beat them again. Hank answer this.

Speaker 1 Are you in a room?

Speaker 5 We forget that Monday Night Football game. I don't.

Speaker 4 Would you say that the Patriots have been in win-now mode for the last two seasons? No.

Speaker 5 The opposite, in fact.

Speaker 1 Building. Build now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, memes. I'm sorry to tell you, but that's you're you're wrong if you think that the situations are the same right now.
No, it doesn't matter, Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 But like Drake May could be

Speaker 1 a mini Josh Allen. Based on the AFC E cycle, Josh Allen will run it for 20 years, and then next team will get their guy.

Speaker 4 So how much more time do we have for Josh Allen? I think 13 years. 13 more years.

Speaker 1 Do you crunch the numbers? Yeah. So wait, then who's up after that? I think the Jets.
You think it's Jetson? Damn Marino. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Tom Brady. Okay, so this

Speaker 1 is 13 years.

Speaker 4 Start tanking now for 2037.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's not bad. 2037 is our year.
That's a little hope.

Speaker 4 There's no hope. Maybe a Manning brothers in that draft.

Speaker 1 Yeah, be like a Murchary will have a son. Yeah, be like a Manning grandson.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's no hope. There's no hope.
So, definitively, though,

Speaker 1 you want him back or not?

Speaker 1 Depends who the coach is.

Speaker 4 What's funny is. Mike McCarthy?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 What's funny is that they have like Aaron's answer to the question of if he's coming back next year is probably the exact same answer that the Jets front office would give right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, yeah, sure, I guess.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if we can't get someone better, which it's crazy, but there's a lot of people better.

Speaker 1 He's just old now. It sucks to watch.
Yeah, you need to be aware of that.

Speaker 1 It doesn't suck to watch those perfects. I think he's a defensive line.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Apparently, he still wants to play next year, but a lot of people are saying it just won't be with the Jets. It would be really funny if he ended up on the Vikings somehow.

Speaker 1 We really need that to happen and then goes to like an NFC championship game. That would rock.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up, Dolphins 34, Raiders 19.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins don't look now, but the Dolphins,

Speaker 1 they're kind of in it.

Speaker 5 A little bit. You don't know what?

Speaker 1 What did you say? What were you going to say? I don't know. What were you going to say?

Speaker 1 I'm just down. What did you just say?

Speaker 1 What did you say, though? I don't even know. I don't know.
I don't know where we go.

Speaker 5 I think that was an internal monologue.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what just happened there?

Speaker 1 i'm down

Speaker 1 you are down i'm down

Speaker 1 this game did not matter yeah but creating a winner winning culture does me

Speaker 4 gets himself up every single week you have an interim coach there's you can't create a winning culture andy richardson's you can't there's only so much you can do here's the good news

Speaker 1 here's the good news you fucking

Speaker 1 that was it That was it.

Speaker 1 There's no more like that was it. That was it.
Because I know that you were saying to yourself they won that game and then they keep winning, like, they could do it, but that was it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, it's dead.

Speaker 1 It's as dead as possible. That was it.

Speaker 6 It's been dead. The team has sucked.
The team has sucked.

Speaker 1 I don't tell you how to be a fan of the game.

Speaker 6 But every Sunday, you're like, this team sucks. I can't keep rooting for this team.
They're so bad. They're not going to make the playoffs.
And then every Thursday comes around.

Speaker 1 It's like, we got a shot. That's sports.
We got a shot. That is sports.
That is sports. No, that's not true.

Speaker 1 Mek has known that he's been fucked for weeks now. Yeah, but

Speaker 1 you have to keep coming back, though.

Speaker 4 It's sports. It is sports.
If you win your next game, you have to re-head the Aaron Rodgers fat.

Speaker 1 And you have to say you might run the table. Okay.

Speaker 1 If you win, you're next. You're not going to win.
Right, but

Speaker 6 Thursday's going to come around, and he's going to think that they're going to win.

Speaker 1 We have a 3% chance. We can't run the table.

Speaker 4 What are making the playoffs?

Speaker 1 But what is five? Hit it real quick. What happens if they beat the Seahawks? What's their chance then?

Speaker 1 It's got to go up to at least like 5%.

Speaker 1 Max

Speaker 1 isn't.

Speaker 4 He's not. I mean,

Speaker 6 they don't give you that option.

Speaker 1 It is funny that it took until this year.

Speaker 6 What are you trying to put that on me?

Speaker 1 I was. You should hit the button.

Speaker 1 What button?

Speaker 1 I declared the Bears fucked when they were four and four.

Speaker 1 It took you all the way to three and eight. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Memes, let me ask you this. If I had a gun and I told you there's a 3% chance that it's loaded, would you want me to pull the trigger on you? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's why you guys get spots.

Speaker 1 All right. Dolphins 34, Raiders 19.

Speaker 1 2-0 was awesome. Kind of makes sense that Antonio Pierce said that he should retire after his last concussion.
He probably saw the schedule.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, we could get maybe an easy win on Skylar Thompson.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins. The Dolphins could be frisky.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins are frisky. Let me say that.
The Dolphins are frisky. The Dolphins could somehow make the playoff.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, with a win, I think they're playing the Patriots next, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think they would be, well, they definitely would be back at 500 with a win there.

Speaker 1 No, they would be 5-6.

Speaker 4 They'd be 5-6. 5-6-6.

Speaker 1 And then they played the Packers on

Speaker 1 Thanksgiving night, I believe.

Speaker 4 They have a commanding second-place lead in the AFC East right now. That's what I'm saying about them.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's something. Tua has looked good.
Tua has looked good since he's come back, and it felt like today today was like they put it all together.

Speaker 1 John U. Smith went off.

Speaker 1 It was just, yeah, I don't know. The Dolphins, watch out.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins are going to play spoiler or maybe fuck around and find a way into this playoff.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think so. Yeah, definitely spoiler.
I don't know if they're going to make the playoffs, but they do have... insane skill positions and Tua's getting the ball to him.

Speaker 4 He's finding them in space and the offense looked, A-chan looked really good today. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's the Dolphins' chance getting the playoffs? 12%.

Speaker 1 That's four times as much as the Jets.

Speaker 4 It could happen. And as for the Raiders, the only thing I'm tracking now with the Raiders is Shador Sanders.

Speaker 4 After every loss, Shador Sanders tweets, thank you God.

Speaker 4 Now, I don't know if this is intentional or not on his part because I saw the meme going around earlier this week, so I kept my eyeball on it.

Speaker 4 And after this game, I noticed that he did immediately tweet, thank you God. So I went back and I looked at every single week that the Raiders have played this season.
Okay.

Speaker 4 And he has done it after every Raiders' loss, except he didn't do it at all weeks one and week two.

Speaker 4 So this boils down to the fact that Shador has been posting every Sunday except for September 29th since week three.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 So it has tracked so far, but the thing is, the Raiders just haven't won very many games. Yeah.
So the only weeks that he's missed doing it have been during Raiders' wins. Got it.

Speaker 1 So he,

Speaker 1 has he tweeted every time for a loss?

Speaker 4 No, because he didn't tweet week one.

Speaker 1 Has he tweeted every time, has he ever treated it with a win?

Speaker 4 No, he has not. Since he started tweeting Thank You God

Speaker 4 on Sundays, it has only been after Raiders' losses. Okay.
And he did skip the week where they won a game. Where they beat the Browns.
So that's what I'm tracking right now.

Speaker 1 Got it. He started in week three.
He missed week four. He's tweeted every other week.
Yes. Got it.

Speaker 4 Which coincides very neatly with the Raiders' schedule.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think he would be awesome on the Raiders.

Speaker 4 He would be. And I feel like Tom Brady would love to have a guy like that on the Raiders.

Speaker 1 And Deion is head coach of the Raiders. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also, Scott Turner definitely,

Speaker 1 he's

Speaker 1 he's not given the best situation, but he's made the Raiders. The Raiders' offense looked better today than they've looked in the last few weeks.
Brock Bowers was incredible.

Speaker 1 They still can't run the ball, but I don't think that's Scott's. I think that's just they can't run the ball.

Speaker 4 I think what he did this week was probably pretty smart, which is just get Brock Bowers at tight end, get him the ball there, get Brock Bowers the ball at receiver, get Brock Bowers the ball out of the backfield at running back.

Speaker 4 So we're just going to get this guy the ball as much as we can. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Scott Turner watch, he did better with what he's had than what Luke Goetze, who also stinks.

Speaker 4 Also, Brock might be a Blake. Oh, really? They called him Blake Bowers during the broadcast today.

Speaker 4 And I think Kyle Rudolph said that he wanted Brock Bowers to be big country.

Speaker 1 Big country, right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because he's from

Speaker 4 Napa Valley, which is as country as it gets. The most country.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I have my eye on the Dolphins. That's all I'm going to say.
I've got them circled because since two has been back, they beat a Rams team, which

Speaker 1 people can say whatever they want. The Rams still have some very good players, and they're still in the playoff picture.

Speaker 1 They lost by three to the Bills, and then they took care of business against the Raiders. I have my eye on them.

Speaker 1 I think we'll see on the Thursday night, Thanksgiving night, when they have to go to Lambeau. It's going to be cold.
That will be it.

Speaker 1 If they win that game and they're back to 500, if they beat the Patriots next week,

Speaker 1 they might be the seventh seed.

Speaker 4 And we're not going to call them frauds.

Speaker 1 If they win in Lambeau, and it's got to be under 40 degrees.

Speaker 4 I feel like on a holiday that...

Speaker 4 I don't think it has to be that cold.

Speaker 1 No, if it's like 60 degrees.

Speaker 4 I mean, if it's balmy, if we're talking a nice humid Thanksgiving, I'm going to adjust that up to if it's under 60 degrees at all.

Speaker 1 I need at least the announcer to say, welcome to the Frozen Tundra. And then the Dolphins won't win at the Frozen Tundra.
Okay. Vikings, 23, Titans, 13.

Speaker 1 Sam Darnold, Pumpkin Watch is on hold. He's back to being a good quarterback, not Pumpkin Watch anymore.
The Titans,

Speaker 1 this game was not. super exciting other than Will Levis had an awesome 98-yard touchdown pass.
That was sick.

Speaker 1 And the Titans are just like the number one team that just beats themselves because we've talked about their special teams really bad.

Speaker 1 They also had 13 penalties for 91 yards today, and they gave the Vikings seven first downs with penalties. So that was kind of the name of the game.
And the Vikings keep just rolling along.

Speaker 1 Eight and two, right? No.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're eight and two.

Speaker 1 Eight and two.

Speaker 4 And this was the Sam Darnold audition for the Tennessee Titans. Yes.
Who have become the Indianapolis Colts where they just sign old quarterbacks. Yes.

Speaker 4 I guess Sam Darnold's not old, but he does fit that bill of a guy that's got a lot of free.

Speaker 1 He's been passed around.

Speaker 4 He's been, yeah, he's purchased townhomes in several cities. Yes.

Speaker 4 And yeah, so Sam went off for, he had 246, two touchdowns, known receptions.

Speaker 4 This was like a big titty bumping game. Every time I looked up at the screen, somebody was in between the 40-yard line.
Yeah. And it felt like they didn't really move all that much.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because the big touchdown was that 98-yarder. And then I think Jordan Addison had a big touchdown as well.
So, yeah,

Speaker 1 it just wasn't a lot happening.

Speaker 1 And the Vikings are better than the Titans. We all thought that, and that it was proved.
It's actually, it was a good win for the Vikings, just the fact that the Jaguars' win was unimpressive.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't know what you want from the Titans for the rest of the season. I don't know what their fans want.
I don't either.

Speaker 1 This is one of those teams where it's like, just bye-week for the rest of the year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't really want to watch this. No.
I don't think anyone wants to watch this.

Speaker 4 Titans, I think they should be on the extra TV.

Speaker 4 Yeah. They should go to side TV.

Speaker 1 Although we made a good choice today because that was, and we could talk about that game.

Speaker 1 Oh, I should say Justin Jefferson officially becomes the most reception yards in a player's first five years, and we still have, what, eight games left?

Speaker 1 Seven games left. Yeah.
So

Speaker 1 he has 6,811 yards in his first five seasons. That is a record.
He is just so good. Yeah.
So good.

Speaker 1 Also, it's pretty crazy that the Vikings have the one in three in that list because Randy Moss was three.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I can't keep a beat on Aaron Jones and how injured he ever is. Yeah.
Because he looked like he had some explosiveness, and I think he got carted off the field last week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He always has like a groin leg.

Speaker 4 A groin leg. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you don't really know what's going to happen. And he wasn't very explosive today.
Yeah. So, okay.

Speaker 1 Talk about explosive. Last game, the early slate.
Lions 52, Jaguars 6.

Speaker 1 Holy fuck.

Speaker 1 Someone in this room said this is their

Speaker 1 NFL Makes No Sense game of the the year.

Speaker 4 It said very confidently, too.

Speaker 1 On the Jaguars spread and money line.

Speaker 1 Let me just read that again. 52-6.

Speaker 1 The Lions had 645 yards of offense.

Speaker 5 The Jacks were winning this game at one point.

Speaker 1 They were. They were up 3-0.

Speaker 1 What were you thinking when they were up 3-0?

Speaker 5 It was on the side TV, so I couldn't even really pay attention. It was 3-0.
I was like, yes. Listen, if the TV is taking a turn,

Speaker 6 wait a minute. What does that mean?

Speaker 6 What do you mean? Because it was on the side TV, you didn't pay attention?

Speaker 5 Yes, Max. It was on the side TV.
So when you're looking forward at all these TVs, you don't forget about looking to the side.

Speaker 5 By the time I remembered to look to the side, it was 21 to 3, maybe five minutes later.

Speaker 4 He's not talking about a side TV on the main wall. He's talking about the TV that's across the line.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 It was the 8th TV. We put it on the 8th TV because we knew this was going to happen.

Speaker 6 I thought it was just like one of the other TVs. No, no.

Speaker 1 We said it on Friday that this was a game where the Lions will come out.

Speaker 1 They will kill the Jaguars and the Jaguars will quit because Doug Peterson is going to get fired because they have the bye week next week.

Speaker 1 There was a report this morning that Doug Peterson will probably get fired. I would assume by the time you're listening to this, Doug Peterson's been fired.

Speaker 1 This was

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 Alabama versus Kent State.

Speaker 1 Like, I think Tennessee played Kent State this year and it was like 71-0.

Speaker 1 This was an early September

Speaker 1 little school going to an SEC school game, which isn't supposed to happen in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Jared Goff had 412 yards, four touchdowns. He's the only quarterback ever to have multiple games with a perfect passer rating that had 400-plus yards.

Speaker 1 Seven touchdowns, seven touchdowns, five guys scored. I mean, this was insane.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Hank, how much of you saying that the NFL doesn't make any sense in picking the Jaguars was because Mac Jones was starting?

Speaker 5 Zero. I just.

Speaker 1 If anything, it should have been reverse.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was a bad pick. I'm very dumb.
I don't know ball.

Speaker 4 ball i i tried to call my shot and i was i was wrong and and that will be the last time i do that if you had known that before the game there would be a report that if the uh jaguars don't show up if they get blown out then their head coach will be fired would that have made you more inclined or less inclined to bet on them more inclined because if there was ever a world where they were going to win it was going to be because they were fighting for their coach clearly

Speaker 4 they did the opposite right but they're like oh wait he's going to be fired if we get if we get blown out bet right

Speaker 5 but if, you know, in hindsight, if the situation is reversed, they actually wanted to play for him, like a Disney movie or something, they beat the Lions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when they did.

Speaker 4 This win this one for Doug. They did.

Speaker 1 When they were up 3-0. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Some other crazy sets. Amon Ra had 11 targets.
He had 11 catches, 161 yards, and two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 This one's nuts. So these teams actually played two years ago.
And if you don't remember, it's because it went almost exactly the same.

Speaker 1 In the last eight quarters, the Jaguars and Lions have played. The Lions are up 92 to 20, and they have not punted.
That's nuts. 92 to 20.

Speaker 4 You want to hear something else that's crazy? This is just a little bit over a year ago. This is August 2023.
There was a poll. I think the athletic put it out.
Who would you rather be?

Speaker 4 The Lions or the Jaguars?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 66% of people said the Jaguars. Wow.

Speaker 1 This was. So

Speaker 1 it sounds crazy. It was.
It is crazy. But it's basically

Speaker 1 less than a year ago,

Speaker 1 the Jaguars were 8-3 heading into that Monday night football game against the Bengals. Since then, they have lost 14 of their last 17 games.
Think about that. 8-3.

Speaker 1 That was the Pete Prisco year, the schedule, the schedule, the schedule. They were going to the Super Bowl.
They were 8-3, and since then, the absolute bottom has fallen out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's been bad. It's been real bad.
Real bad. And when you think it can't get any worse in Jacksonville, it somehow does find a way.
It's their worst loss in organization history.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's not supposed to look like this in the NFL. Like, it's just not supposed to look like this.

Speaker 4 Jameson Williams did the hold my dick tool.

Speaker 1 He did the hold my dick. Every time we looked up, there was another long touchdown.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 I also think in this game, we can talk about their skill position players because they are awesome on the lines.

Speaker 1 And Sam Laporta didn't even play.

Speaker 4 Sam Laporta did not play.

Speaker 1 You got Brocked.

Speaker 4 Everybody at the skill position is awesome on the Lions, but their offensive line

Speaker 1 was just gaping people. Mauling.

Speaker 4 It's a tired thing to say. Like, I could have rushed for X amount of yards in this game.
I think I probably would have had 12 yards.

Speaker 4 I would have had 12 yards rushing today if I played on the Lions.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. When it looked like, not just in score, but in just watching the game, it looked like an SEC team versus a MAC team.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it was like the difference in, I should say, Toledo did beat Mississippi State this year. So it doesn't always beat me.
Mississippi State. Yeah, Mississippi State.

Speaker 1 They beat Mississippi at Mississippi State. But it was like men and boys playing in this game.
And

Speaker 1 the only bad news for the Lions is Alexandalone broke his arm. So he is going to be out for six to eight weeks.
But other than that, the Lions are just incredible.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, they'll probably have a buy. So back for the playoffs, maybe?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And the Lions, by the way, for the first time in franchise history, are officially Super Bowl favorites.
Wow. Good for them.

Speaker 4 Good for them.

Speaker 1 They are officially Super Bowl favorites.

Speaker 4 Love that. Max, have you reached the point where you're now rooting against the Lions? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Have to be. Plus 350 the Lions are to win the Super Bowl.
The Chiefs are plus 450. It's crazy.
Lions are Super Bowl favorites. So I don't know.
I mean, like, that's nuts.

Speaker 4 Their schedule's not easy, though.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 they're better than everyone.

Speaker 6 The Chiefs are at home, though, which sucks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they're also better than everyone. They are.
So their schedule is kind of easy.

Speaker 1 So they got the colts better than better than uh chicago who better than chicago is capable of almost beating anyone if we got if we brought back justin fields for just the lions game because he actually was the lions killer uh and that doesn't mean he beat them a bunch it means that he was just good against them and met iberfluis happened a bunch uh then packers bills better than bills bills is a tough game good game 49ers better than that's the only one on the road though they're better than the 49ers what are we talking about But that happens all

Speaker 1 the time.

Speaker 1 I understand better than all of them. I think they're significantly better than the 49ers right now.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 they've got two outdoor games, which is the

Speaker 4 knock against Jared Goff. Although Jared Goff played well outdoors.

Speaker 1 And the 49ers game will be fine weather, most likely. The Bears, yeah, the Bears might.

Speaker 6 But that's also the second last game of the season. Like, the Niners team could get, could look different then than they do now.

Speaker 6 I hate the Niners. I hate that I'm even justifying this, but

Speaker 1 they would have beat you guys. Oh, you're thinking the Purdue.
Oh, I know what he's saying.

Speaker 1 I know what he's thinking.

Speaker 4 When Brock Purdy got hurt.

Speaker 1 What, one seed? No, you're thinking maybe you get two seed, and what if the Niners got the seventh seed?

Speaker 1 Oh, I would hate that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would be bad.

Speaker 6 I know. I mean,

Speaker 6 the NFC, the seven.

Speaker 6 There's so many teams I don't want to see from the seventh seed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the NFC is going to be a tough battle for that, you know, six, seven seed.

Speaker 4 Give me your acceptable list of teams that you would like to see at the seventh seed.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like this.

Speaker 4 Who would you like to host?

Speaker 6 I don't like this because then it puts it puts bullets.

Speaker 1 Bulletin board material of the year. Yeah, but you got to sell it.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 Get him. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Get his.

Speaker 6 Seahawks, I would love.

Speaker 1 Okay, fair.

Speaker 6 We play the Rams next week. I'll answer that question after we play the Rams.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 49ers, you wouldn't Bucks. I wouldn't

Speaker 6 not want to see the 49ers. I would not want to see the Bucs.

Speaker 4 Bears? Might be getting healthy.

Speaker 1 Bears.

Speaker 6 Bears would suck just because

Speaker 6 I would have to do it with you.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? You'd kill us?

Speaker 1 Rizzy?

Speaker 1 Saints?

Speaker 6 Saints would be great.

Speaker 1 Cowboys would be great. Panthers? Panthers would be great.
Giants?

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.

Speaker 4 What about Commanders? You didn't say them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you didn't say them. Their current seventh seed.

Speaker 4 If the season ended.

Speaker 1 Vikings, I would love.

Speaker 1 I would love the Vikings.

Speaker 6 We beat the fuck out of the Vikings every time.

Speaker 1 Bulletin board.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's bulletin board that I don't care about saying because the Vikings fans know it too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Now I really want it to be the Vikings. Vikings are the Seahawks, based on what Max just said.
That's what I would love.

Speaker 1 So, I mean,

Speaker 1 they're just so good. The Lions are so good.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'm going to be able to do that. I would really just like the one seed.

Speaker 6 The one seed would be phenomenal.

Speaker 1 They're just, and this was part of why I bet on them today. It's like, they're so good, and they also are in a way where, like, Dan Campbell, like, doesn't have them in,

Speaker 1 like, he somehow has them. He's got them scared every week.

Speaker 4 He's got the juice. It's like, you better go out there and play fucking hard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, or I'm going to fucking beat you up. I will kick your ass.
Yeah. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 He didn't do any of that in the first half of the first quarter, though.

Speaker 1 Do you remember that, Hank? True.

Speaker 4 3-0. 3-0.

Speaker 1 59-yard field goal.

Speaker 4 If the quarter was only 10 minutes long, I think the Jaguars would have won the first quarter.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, also, we should say the Jaguars punter was great today.

Speaker 1 He had

Speaker 1 five punts, 53.5-yard average, and three that he put inside the 20. It's good.
That's a really good day.

Speaker 4 That's something that you can build around. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Build the whole team around the Jags Punter.

Speaker 4 All right, so let's take a look at the Jaguars' coaching roster right now, figure out who the interim head coach is going to be. Yes, please.
Press Taylor, offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 Friend of the show. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't think he would get the off. I don't think he would get the.

Speaker 1 He's not a perfect

Speaker 1 meatball interim head coach.

Speaker 4 Okay, um, then the other options we have Mike McCoy. That's a football guy.
That's a name that's been around football for a long time. I could see him.

Speaker 4 Chad Hall, way too much of a Chad.

Speaker 1 Also, a friend of the program. He helped us get the Matthew Stafford interview because that is Matthew Stafford's brother-in-law.

Speaker 4 He is also 100% Chad, though.

Speaker 1 And he actually might be a good interim.

Speaker 4 His parents accurately named him. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he could be a good interim because he does have the juice.

Speaker 4 Their running backs coach, I've got my eye on this guy just because his name is Jerry Mack.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's a good

Speaker 4 interim head coach name.

Speaker 4 Phil Rauscher's got a nice goatee for an interim coach, kind of Dan Campbell hat tip there.

Speaker 4 And then on defense, Ryan Nielsen has a fucking mustache. Look at this guy.
Look at their defense. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Ryan Nielsen could be the guy.

Speaker 4 I just don't know if you

Speaker 4 just got 50 hung on you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't do that.

Speaker 4 I don't know what kind of message that sends.

Speaker 1 You can't do that.

Speaker 4 Although maybe it makes your defense better because he's no longer coaching. That's true.

Speaker 1 Chad Hall. Chad Hall's a scrap.
He's a gritty guy. Okay.
He's a gritty guy.

Speaker 4 I'm going to guess Chad.

Speaker 1 Chad Hall was the wide receivers coach for a while with the Bills.

Speaker 1 He could be the guy.

Speaker 4 Chad or J-Mac?

Speaker 1 Chad or J-Mac? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I just like saying Jerry Mac.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not Mike McCoy. Remember, he was a head coach.
He was bad. Yeah, but he's got experience.
Through the Chargers.

Speaker 4 Sometimes they like to do that, and they say, this guy's got experience.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, Chad Hall was, I think he played football at Air Force, so he would be fuck yeah, yeah, military, you know, military time, everything. Also, is Trevor Lawrence just not gonna play anymore?

Speaker 1 I wouldn't, yeah, I'd agree.

Speaker 1 Why would you want him to play right now? Big time business decision.

Speaker 4 Got family on the way. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Okay, afternoon games.

Speaker 1 Max alluded to this, but Broncos 38, Falcons 6.

Speaker 1 I'm so happy I came out as a believer

Speaker 1 to get you on this game. Well, you understand.
Like, I explained it. I had been through the Auburn Bo Nicks.
I had Oregon Future last year.

Speaker 1 I've been hurt many times by Bo Nicks,

Speaker 1 but I am a believer

Speaker 1 as of last Friday. And holy shit, did he light it up?

Speaker 1 307 yards, four touchdowns, 28 for 33. The first rookie quarterback ever to have a game with 80% completion percentage.
Four or more touchdowns and 300 or more yards.

Speaker 1 The Broncos, that's how you get off the mat against, you know,

Speaker 1 with a terrible, terrible loss to the Chiefs. They get off the mat, they throttle the Falcons, and now we have to have the difficult conversation, is Bo Nix going to win rookie of the year?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 4 he's worked his way back into contention for it. What are the odds right now?

Speaker 5 I will look them up right now.

Speaker 4 Because for a while, Jaden was like minus 400, but

Speaker 4 it's got to be much, much closer than that right now. Bo Nick's playing awesome.
The last nine games for Bo Nicks have been unreal in terms of scoring touchdowns and not turning the ball over.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he stopped, which it's like give and take for me with Bo because part of what I loved about Bo, at least early on in the season, is he did make some of those crazy laser beam throws directly at a defender.

Speaker 4 Correct. But he stopped doing that now.
So it's only good Bo. We're getting just good Bo now.

Speaker 5 I think it's down right now, maybe because until after Monday night. Maybe.
Right now it's just MVP I'm seeing on DraftKings.

Speaker 1 Although it shouldn't be because there's no Monday night rookies playing that I can think of. Cooper Rush, does he still have rookie eligibility? Trey Lance?

Speaker 1 Can he still be considered a rookie?

Speaker 4 Who the Texans have?

Speaker 1 Texans don't have offensive rookies.

Speaker 1 So either way, Bo Nix has been incredible. Bo Nix,

Speaker 1 yeah, he right now has 14 touchdowns, 2,200 yards, four rushing touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Max, you think we all picked the wrong guy, which, by the way, would be very funny if Bo Nix went on to win like multiple Super Bowls and then we could just all be miserable together.

Speaker 4 And there's a shitload of tape of us saying bad things about Bo Nicks over the last year.

Speaker 1 I don't take anything back because, again, I've been hurt by Bo Nick's so many times.

Speaker 4 I mean, even like during the draft. Before I saw him in a Broncos uniform, I think we all thought the same thing, which was Sean Payton found his son.
But that's my point, is

Speaker 1 I had history. Bo Nix didn't come into the NFL as a rookie.
Bo Nix was part of my life for what feels like a decade.

Speaker 1 But yeah, he's playing incredible ball, and the Broncos look good. Like, their defense is good.
Their defense completely discombobulated the Falcons. They looked so bad today.
And,

Speaker 1 like, I said, that's how you get off the mat. Like, the Broncos are a good football team.

Speaker 1 And to respond like that after a loss like they had to the Chiefs, where you saw all the quotes afterwards saying that was a gut punch and it was going to be tough to come back from, they came back from it and they demolished, demolished the Falcons.

Speaker 4 Okay, so we alluded to this on Friday's show, but an update to it. Sean Payton is now 4-0

Speaker 4 against the NFC South.

Speaker 4 His point differential is plus 88.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 4 He's averaging, I'm not a math guy, 22 points.

Speaker 1 Killing them.

Speaker 4 Of point differential against all those teams in the division that he used to coach. Killing them.

Speaker 1 This game was never even, like, it wasn't even, the Falcons never got, I think their first drive was decent, and they got a field goal, and it was 7-3, and then you blinked, and it was over and bonics just was dicing them up the defense is suffocating the the rare times that bijan robinson got the ball in open space it closed up really quickly on him yeah he was able to get like one cut in one and a half cuts and boom get hit the defense for the broncos is they are really really good yes they got their asses kicked by the raiders or excuse me the ravens um but they're they're a very good football team i think the and and on the falcons side i i i'm i'm done with the falcons they're like they'll they could they could be in the playoffs because they obviously

Speaker 1 have those two wins over the Bucs, so it's going to be hard for the Bucs to, although I wouldn't be shocked because the Bucs could get Mike Evans back, but I think I'm done with the Falcons.

Speaker 1 They don't do anything on defense. I mean, they don't rush the passer whatsoever.
I love Bijan.

Speaker 1 I just,

Speaker 1 they're so frustrating to watch defensively that I think I have to be done with them.

Speaker 1 They're not going to, like, this is the NFC South for the first month and a half of the season, especially the first two weeks, we're like, holy shit, Saints are incredible.

Speaker 1 Or, you know, Saints look great.

Speaker 1 The Falcons, you know, have some big-time games. They had a couple tragic losses.
The Bucs are firing everywhere. Baker, the NFC South is back to just being the NFC South, where I don't,

Speaker 1 are they going to win a playoff game? The NFC South? Maybe if the Bucs get in, because Baker,

Speaker 1 I just don't. I don't know what to make of the Falcons.
I just, I'm

Speaker 1 thoroughly unimpressed.

Speaker 4 I'll tell you what to make of the Falcons. They are Kirk Cousins.
It's perfect.

Speaker 4 It's actually a perfect marriage that they have because if you look at them, they have lost to every really good team, every good team that they've played.

Speaker 4 Not true.

Speaker 1 What? Oh, the Eagles?

Speaker 4 Well, you guys, the Eagles lost that game.

Speaker 1 They beat the Eagles.

Speaker 4 I don't know if the Falcons won that.

Speaker 1 Depends on what you think of the Bucs, too.

Speaker 4 Depends on what you think of the Bucs. But

Speaker 4 the Falcons are exactly who you would think that they are. They're going to be an above-average team ultimately because there's a lot of shitty teams in the league.

Speaker 4 They're probably going to make the playoffs. They might not win a playoff game.

Speaker 4 They might win a squeaker in the first round, but I don't think that they're going to do any damage whatsoever in the NFC. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for the Bucs to make the playoffs now,

Speaker 1 even in spite of Stephen Che. Well, he's been released.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he has been released, and I like Baker is more fun in a playoff setting than what I'm watching from the fat. I just don't understand how they can, they get nothing in terms of defensive push.

Speaker 1 And they signed Matthew Judon. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's crazy to watch.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, this was an ass-kicking from start to finish. Michael Pennix got in with, it felt like the entire fourth quarter in front of him.
Yeah. Didn't look bad, actually.

Speaker 4 Shout out to Michael Pennix.

Speaker 4 But yeah, it's a good time to be a Broncos fan.

Speaker 1 I kind of want to bet the Bucs to win the NFC South. They play basically the identical schedules down the stretch.
The only difference being,

Speaker 1 I believe,

Speaker 1 I believe the Bucs have a game against the Cowboys, which might be good now

Speaker 4 that Dak is out.

Speaker 1 But other than that, they kind of have the same schedule. They both play the Raiders, both play the Giants, both play the Panthers.
So

Speaker 1 it's going to be tough for the Bucs to make it up because they've lost both the games to the Saints, but I'm Team Bucs. Sorry, Falcons fans.
I just can't. Maybe.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know what you can do.
Give the ball, make the whole team out of Bijan because I love him, but I just can't watch your defense anymore.

Speaker 4 I got news for you. I think that the Broncos could get 11 wins.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think it's very possible.

Speaker 1 I was talking about the Falcons and Bucks, but yeah.

Speaker 4 But we said a couple weeks ago that this was going to be like the hard part of the Broncos schedule because they had to go up against the Ravens, had to go at the Chiefs, and then the Falcons, they might have been a good team.

Speaker 4 We weren't really sure. Now I think we have a better understanding.
But then they get the Raiders, the Browns, the Colts, the Chargers, the Bengals, and the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 I think 10 or 11 wins is very, very realistic for the Broncos.

Speaker 1 11 is going to be probably tough.

Speaker 4 I have a feeling like they're going to win one of those two games against either the Chargers or the Chiefs at home.

Speaker 1 They'd have to go 5-1 down the stretch. But yeah, no, the Broncos are good.

Speaker 1 The Broncos are a good team, and they feel like the future is bright for the first time in a long time with the Broncos because since Peyton Manning, they've been through a lot of shit.

Speaker 1 They had Peyton Manning, and then the decade it's been, or nine years since then,

Speaker 1 they've been going through quarterbacks and been

Speaker 1 going through coaches and kind of a laughingstock for a franchise that was the model of consistency for a very long time, but now it feels like they're going the right direction.

Speaker 4 So you can look at this one of two ways. The first being like Sean Payton, great job against the NFC South.

Speaker 4 But then when you take away all those games and you're left with what they've done besides those games,

Speaker 4 they've won two games outside of the NFC South. They've beaten the Jets 10-9.

Speaker 1 No longer a good win. Never a good win.

Speaker 4 And then they beat the Raiders.

Speaker 4 Those are the two wins outside that.

Speaker 1 Those aren't big wins. They're not.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so now I'm talking my way out of it now.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Let's not put...
We almost beat the Chiefs though. All right, but

Speaker 1 let's not put a cap on the like if the Broncos don't get to 10 or 11 wins, that's not a failure of a season because it feels like they have a quarterback that they can build around and they have a good young defense and like Sean Payton might have his mojo back.

Speaker 1 So the future's bright because we don't want to say they're going to win 10 or 11 games and then they don't. Like, oh man, that was a disappointing situation.

Speaker 4 Because we set them up for that failure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we set them up for failure. That's what we're doing.
Let's not do that.

Speaker 4 But that's our job. It is our job.

Speaker 1 That's the media.

Speaker 1 We got a job to do. They got a job to do.

Speaker 4 If the Broncos, they play at the best of their ability today. If they can do that, they should win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 What is their,

Speaker 1 if they play the Super Bowl against the Falcons, I'm taking the Broncos.

Speaker 4 I'm taking the Broncos minus 31.

Speaker 1 So if the playoffs started today, the Broncos would be in. And

Speaker 1 if they can get to 10 wins,

Speaker 1 they should get in there because the teams behind them have a lot of ground to make up, especially now that the Bengals, which we'll get to, have caught another loss, and we'll have to discuss that.

Speaker 1 Still don't want to stop believing in them, which I should.

Speaker 1 But the Broncos do feel like they should get into the playoffs. Yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 4 That schedule coming up, they should.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the Falcons, I'm just, I don't know. I'm just,

Speaker 1 whatever. Whatever with the Falcons.

Speaker 4 Hank, are you doing reminders?

Speaker 1 Whatever. Yes.

Speaker 4 Hank, can you remind me to bet against the Falcons in Wild Card Weekend? Excuse me, Super Wild Card Weekend.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
Please. Let me just look up the date to bet against.
Although,

Speaker 1 if it was started right now,

Speaker 1 it'd be the Vikings getting against the Falcons. That's two franchises with some really sad playoff history.

Speaker 1 And they played in a very famous game. That's true, but also Kirk Cousins Revenge came in the playoffs.
Ty. Yeah, that would be fun.
Fun storyline.

Speaker 1 Okay, another team I don't know what the fuck to make of. Well, actually, both of them.
Seahawks 29ers, 17.

Speaker 1 I think the Niners are in a lot of trouble because they've,

Speaker 1 but I said it on Friday. Like, I was like, I think they're in a lot of trouble.
And they blew another fourth quarter lead.

Speaker 1 Geno Smith. This was the full Geno Smith roller coaster of a game where we had a terrible interception, another snap issue where

Speaker 1 we've said it a million times, but if you watch a Seahawks game without fail at least once a game they will lose 10 to 15 yards on a snap problem but then Geno put on his hero cape and led a fourth quarter drive that was awesome he was seven for eight fifty four yards two rushes 29 yards he now since 2023 has seven uh fourth quarter game winning drives that's the most in the nfl that's geno smith the whole like the whole roller coaster you saw it all with geno smith today the bad the good, the ugly, the great, it was there.

Speaker 4 And it was weird because the Seahawks, they kept it, they kept it relatively close, but it didn't feel like they had enough going on where they were going to win.

Speaker 4 But you kept watching the Niners fail to put them away, and you're like, they're just letting the Seahawks hang around way, way, way too long here. The Seahawks could fuck around and win this game.

Speaker 4 It seemed like every time I looked up, JSN had another catch for like 12 yards. And little by little, they got it done at the end.

Speaker 4 I am very worried about the Niners now.

Speaker 1 i figured that they were going to kick join me i thought that they were going to kick the shit out of the seahawks yeah the nfl makes no sense and they play at green bay and at buffalo their next two games the niners so and and uh if you look at the standings they're one and three in the end in the nfc west yeah so the nfc west is a complete shit show uh very fun division but it's a shit show because every team is still very much alive and the niners like this is the four like this happened in the cardinals game this happened in the seahawks game this happened in the rams game where they can't put teams away.

Speaker 1 And I know they didn't have Kittle today, and obviously Brandon Ayuk's out, but it's very concerning.

Speaker 1 It seems like they cannot put teams away and win these games where they feel like the better team for three quarters, and then it just falters. And Brock Purdy, like, he was running for his life.

Speaker 1 I give a lot of credit to the Seahawks defense. They were all over the place.
The only person they couldn't guard was Juwan Jennings. But the Seahawks defense was flying.

Speaker 1 Brock Purdy felt like like he had to scramble for a million yards in the pocket and then out of the pocket.

Speaker 1 And yeah, the Niners, like, it's crazy how quickly you can look at it and be like, wow, the Niners, this is going to be very, very, they don't have much margin for error going down the stretch.

Speaker 4 Nobody in that division does. No.
Even the Cardinals who lead the division right now, I think they're up by one game, right? And then there's a three-way tie for second place.

Speaker 1 Although the Niners would be in fourth place because

Speaker 1 they're one and three in the division.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but what I'm saying is like no team can, like, tiebreakers are one thing, but no team in that division should be comfortable right now.

Speaker 1 No. It's going to be chaos.
Yeah. Yeah.
And with the NFC North, the three teams, the NFC North all playing well,

Speaker 1 there's not a lot of room for error in your commanders. Like, that's the seventh seed is not.
You're going to have to get to probably 11 wins.

Speaker 4 It's going to be, I think, one team out of the West. Yeah.
I'm pretty confident with that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, it better be.
Because if it's not, then something bad happened to you.

Speaker 4 Something bad happened to either me or to maybe the Packers.

Speaker 1 That's true. Yeah, think about that.
That would be nice. That would be nice.

Speaker 1 Okay, so, and you had the Seahawks off a bye with their leading, so their leading tackler got cut, and then another guy retired, and they answered the bell.

Speaker 4 And then Geno Smith hit him with a night knight. Night Knight.

Speaker 1 Steph Curry Night Knight. Yeah, so

Speaker 4 there was a 90.3% win probability that the Niners had.

Speaker 1 That's every game for them.

Speaker 4 It is. It's crazy.
So I was looking at the chart and I was like, that seems bad, but no, this is kind of the story of how Kyle Shannon has been operating recently.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Every game for them feels like they have it. And then, oh, whoops, something happened.
I mean, like I said, especially in the division, they lost that Rams game.

Speaker 1 They got outscored 13-3 in the fourth quarter in that game. The Cardinals game earlier in the year, remember when they were like, what were they, 10-point favorites or something?

Speaker 1 The Cardinals beat them 11-0 in the fourth quarter, so they can't put teams away.

Speaker 1 They just cannot put teams away. And I know Kittle would definitely help, but they can't put teams away right now.

Speaker 4 They broke into all their bag of magic tricks that they had without Kittle and they were trying to get the ball around, trying to have different people rush it,

Speaker 4 spread it around a lot on offense. Zero catches today for Ricky Pearsall, though.
Yeah. And that's the guy that you can go to downfield.
And I don't even know if they target him.

Speaker 4 Maybe they target him a couple times. But

Speaker 4 the offense does, it's not fun. I used to watch the 49ers play and be excited to watch them play, and that stopped when this season started.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Even though they got Christian McCaffrey back, they're not fun to watch on offense right now. No, they're not.

Speaker 1 They're not. They're broken.
All right. Last game in the afternoon slate, and then we'll talk Sunday Night Football.
Bills 30, Chiefs 21.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs' perfect season is done.

Speaker 1 The Bills, Sean McDermott, has learned. He's starting to learn.

Speaker 1 He's getting smarter because this game essentially came down to the fourth and two on the Chiefs' 26-yard line where the Bills could have kicked a field goal to go up five.

Speaker 1 And he said, wait a second, Patrick Mahomes is on the other sideline. If I go up five, he will go down, score a touchdown, and rip all of our hearts out of our chest.

Speaker 1 And he said, Josh Allen, go do something crazy. And that's exactly what he did with the 26-yard touchdown run to win the game, seal the game.

Speaker 1 Good for the Bills for getting smarter and winning a game like this.

Speaker 1 I know they've beaten the Chiefs, I think, four straight years in the regular season and then lost three straight years in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 So this doesn't really mean much, but it's still nice because they have a chance at the one seed, and Sean McDermott's getting smarter.

Speaker 4 It's also better than the alternative. Correct.
So the alternative is to lose to the Chiefs in the regular season and then lose to them again in the playoffs. Right.
This is better.

Speaker 4 You would rather have the confidence that maybe you can win if your coach doesn't absolutely screw himself over to another game.

Speaker 4 And yeah, if Sean McDermott had kicked that that field goal and then kicked off to Mahomes and then lost, I would say there would be an argument to be made for Sean McDermott to start packing his bags up to the end of the season.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Like he's at that point, it's like, what have you learned? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Nothing, because everybody that's watching this knew that was the right call. You would have been an utter bonehead not to do it.

Speaker 4 Also, congratulations to Josh Allen because on that rushing play, he became the all-time leader in rushing touchdown for the Bills, surpassing O.J. Simpson.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice.

Speaker 4 A record that the Bills were desperately hoping

Speaker 4 to be broken. Fuck you, O.J.
That's huge.

Speaker 1 He has more than Thurman Thomas? Yeah. That's crazy.
Yeah. Damn.
Good for Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 He remains two ahead of O.J. in the category of people that he never murdered, though.

Speaker 1 That's also a fact.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think right now the Bills are a better team than the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the playoffs are a different animal, and Patrick Mahomes will do Patrick Mahomes things and will be like, hey, how'd they win three in a row? But the Bills' defense is good.

Speaker 1 Their offense is good. They couldn't even run the ball today.
And Josh was without Keon Coleman and Dawson Knox. And they still found a way.
They're going to get Matt Milano back.

Speaker 1 Like the Bills, like you said last week, for a team that had their championship window closed, they're pretty damn good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this is all extra. For an off year.
No one expects the Bills to do anything this way.

Speaker 1 For a rebuilding year, they're pretty damn good.

Speaker 1 It turns out you can rebuild when you have Josh Allen as your quarterback.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and you let Josh Allen be Josh Allen. Yeah.
Just let him go back there and figure something out. Yeah.
And And he'll make it happen.

Speaker 4 Except we almost got, there was a moment at the end of the first half where Allen threw that interception where the Chiefs go down, and I thought, I think they get three points out of it.

Speaker 4 But to me, that felt like one that

Speaker 4 we're going to be looking at at the end of the game and be like, fuck, Mahomes has the ball down like three points. Yeah.
And now he's going to go win the game because of that costly interception.

Speaker 4 But no, the Bills overcame it. Congratulations to Buffalo.

Speaker 1 No, Josh didn't play a perfect game, but he did just enough, especially at the end of the game. And he is is very much in the MVP conversation.

Speaker 1 Also, the Bills' defense did a very good job of bottling up Travis Kelsey, which, you know, he's killed them in the past. I think he had eight yards total.

Speaker 4 Then they went to Brock, though.

Speaker 1 That left Brock open. Or, excuse me,

Speaker 1 Noah Gray, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, this is a crazy stat. The Chiefs, so

Speaker 1 the Bills scored 30 points. That's the fifth straight game they scored 30 points.
The Chiefs hadn't allowed 28-plus points in a regular season game since week four, 2022

Speaker 1 to Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 So that was 38 straight games that their defense held a team under 28, which is a winning recipe when you have Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 But it also showed that if the Chiefs' defense doesn't ball out, the Chiefs' offense is like, it's not the perfect offense, and they don't have, they have a lot of answers, but they don't have every answer to play in like a shootout type game.

Speaker 4 There was a moment in the first half where I thought to myself, like, how the fuck did the Chiefs get Xavier Worthy? Oh, yeah, the Bills let the Chiefs have Xavier Worthy.

Speaker 4 But then you see where Xavier Worthy is lacking what the Chiefs have had in the past at receiver, which is I think Xavier Worthy has the least amount of sideline awareness of any receiver in the NFL.

Speaker 4 Also,

Speaker 4 it's happened to him a few times this year where he's wide open downfield for like 40 yards, and then he catches it and doesn't even think to get, I think today he dragged his foot a full, I think it was a full step before the ball got there.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And so then he just steps out of bounds.
Earlier this year, he just stood out of bounds and made a catch. It's small things that I maybe, you know what?

Speaker 4 Maybe this is how the Chiefs are getting me right now. Maybe it's like, okay, they're convincing me that they're a flawed football team, that they don't have it like they did in years past.

Speaker 4 And then all of a sudden, the playoff Xavier Worthy is going to have like a perfect, perfect understanding of how to get his toes in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know there's still, I mean, they're both rookies, but I would much rather have Keon Coleman right now. Right now, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's the, I mean, that's the meme, like, I can't believe the Bills let Xavier Worth, you know, the Chiefs get Xavier Worthy. Well, they got Keon Coleman.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I know he didn't play in this game, but Keon Coleman has looked like he has been more of a complete receiver in the last month and a half. And Xavier Worthy's nice.

Speaker 1 Xavier Worthy is super, super fast, but he hasn't been like a guy that you can go to time and time again.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that one we might have gotten ahead of ourselves.

Speaker 4 Maybe. I still think Xavier Worthy.

Speaker 1 Week one, we were just like, damn, Xavier Worthy. It was his first touch.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. First time he touched the ball, scores a touchdown.
Yeah, I think Xavier Worthy is going to be really, really good and very, very, very good fit for Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 But I think most receivers would probably be a better fit with Mahomes than anybody else.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd agree with that.

Speaker 1 So this was a great game, though. We had great football on Sunday.
And we should talk about the Sunday Night Football game, which we just ended up watching. Oh, by the way, so

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 Chiefs, obviously, first loss.

Speaker 1 It will be very interesting because now with the Steelers winning and the Bills winning, the one seed is definitely up for grabs, and the Steelers do play the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 So it will be interesting how it shakes out.

Speaker 1 The Bills have a little bit of a tough schedule because they have to play the Niners, and I think they have to go to the Lions.

Speaker 1 But this is up for grabs, and it feels so, so important to get that one seat in the AFC because the AFC is so top-heavy that

Speaker 1 if you get the one seed

Speaker 1 and you can avoid playing the Chiefs or like if you're the Bills and you can avoid playing the Chiefs in the second round, that would be pretty nice.

Speaker 1 And vice versa.

Speaker 4 So last year,

Speaker 4 was it the second round? Steelers had to go to the Chiefs and got the shit kicked out of them?

Speaker 1 I believe, right? No, the Steelers.

Speaker 1 The Steelers haven't won a playoff game in the game.

Speaker 4 Those wild cards. That was week one of the playoffs last year.

Speaker 1 The Steelers went to the Bills.

Speaker 4 Went to the Bills? What am I looking at here?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know what year you're looking at.
Remember, it was the snow, they changed the game.

Speaker 1 Changed the table. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 This is a couple years ago. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was the TJ Watt first touchdown game when

Speaker 1 the Steelers had to go to the Chiefs. Oh, that's right.

Speaker 4 Two or three years.

Speaker 4 We thought, yeah,

Speaker 4 Hank might have won a shitload of money.

Speaker 4 But I guess I don't get the feeling like Mahomes can go into Pittsburgh and do the same kind of stuff that he's done in the past, like going into Buffalo and shutting them down. I feel like

Speaker 4 the Steelers' defense at home is good enough to stop Mahomes.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 last year he went into Buffalo and Baltimore. So I'm not going to say that Mahomes can't go into anywhere and win.

Speaker 4 I feel like the Steelers' defense, though, at home.

Speaker 1 But he's Patrick Mahomes. Listen, maybe you might be right.
The Steelers might be able to.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I'm never going to doubt Patrick Mahomes going anywhere in a playoff game. After last year, when it was like the Chiefs are bad, and they have to go play

Speaker 1 at Buffalo, then they have to go play at Baltimore, and they beat them both. Yeah.
That kind of ended that one for me. I don't know.

Speaker 4 Tomlin at home. Nighttime playoff game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Towels going. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Cold.

Speaker 1 I'm getting pumped up for playoff football. I'm getting pumped up for playoff football, which

Speaker 1 you probably unfortunately are not if you are a Bengals fan because that Sunday night football game was incredible. Chargers 34, Bengals 27.

Speaker 1 This game was everything that we wanted out of both teams because we had the Chargers were incredible in the first half.

Speaker 1 Then Justin Herbert was bad for a good portion of the third and fourth quarter. And Joe Burrow put the Bengals on his back and was like, We're going to, we're winning this game.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do everything we can.

Speaker 1 And then they just both kind of like lost their minds. The Bengals miss a couple kicks.
Evan McPherson misses a couple kicks. There was that stretch where we had, what was it, 11 plays in a minute?

Speaker 4 It was 11 plays in a minute. I'm pulling up the exact drives here.
They both lost their minds. They did, because it was a tie game.
It was 27-27, and both teams felt like they were going to try to...

Speaker 4 Axe, are you just hitting yourself on the head with the football right now?

Speaker 1 You okay?

Speaker 1 I have ADD. Okay.

Speaker 4 He was seriously slamming at full speed into his head.

Speaker 1 ADD?

Speaker 4 It was 27-27, and both teams felt like they had to throw the ball to win. And neither team wanted to admit that

Speaker 4 they might

Speaker 4 want to give up on this game and just take it to overtime. So what ended up happening was the ball going back and forth, back and forth at the end through incompletions.
And it was insane.

Speaker 4 I felt like I was going crazy. Like, neither one of these coaches has ever watched the end of a football game before.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it was the one where

Speaker 1 Evan McPherson misses a kick. There's a minute and 45 seconds left.
The Chargers have, I think, two timeouts, and they need... I don't know, 25 yards to get in range for Dicker the kicker.

Speaker 1 And they just went pass, pass, pass, incompletion, incompletion, incompletion, and punted it back to Joe Burrow 10 seconds later.

Speaker 1 Like, run the ball and try to get, you know, like run a little clock off.

Speaker 1 You have timeouts, get some yards, but, and then the Bengals just did the same thing back to them, and you get the end of the game where, um,

Speaker 1 not to make it about the Bears, but Jim Harbaugh did everything that Matt Ibrafus cannot do

Speaker 1 in both,

Speaker 1 like he basically took both the Commanders and the Packers loss into one last minute of the game because with first and 10 on like the Bengals, whatever it was, 25, and a timeout in his pocket, instead of just being like, oh, we'll kick a field goal from here, they ran a play and J.K.

Speaker 1 Dobbins scored a touchdown. And then when the Hail Mary, they played sideline defense, took a timeout before the Hail Mary.

Speaker 1 and blitzed Joe Burrow and didn't let him get a clean pass off and were able to win the game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so it was, I believe.

Speaker 1 Good job, Jim Harbaugh. You're a good coach.

Speaker 4 I believe it was 15 plays in the last two minutes, but in that first minute after the two-minute warning, I think they got 11 plays off in that short time span.

Speaker 4 At the end, what you're talking about with Harbaugh trying to go for the win and continuing to actually play off the football.

Speaker 4 Do you think for a second that Brandon Staley would have done that? No. Brandon Staley would have been so happy to settle for a 52-yard field game.

Speaker 1 Hell no.

Speaker 4 And if you know anything about the history of the Chargers, and

Speaker 4 I think Harbaugh has done research about the history of the Chargers' painful losses because he managed that in a way that was so completely different from everything that the team has done in the past.

Speaker 4 It makes you think he's actually sat down and watched that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because they almost charged this game away. They did.
Justin Herbert was, I think he was six for 20 at one point in the second half where he was almost perfect in the first half. They tried.

Speaker 4 Joe Burrow played an awesome second half.

Speaker 1 He always has to. He has to put the team on his back constantly.

Speaker 1 And, you know,

Speaker 1 maybe if they had done more on offense in the first half, because they only scored six points in the first half. But

Speaker 1 I'm sad that the Bengals can't make the playoffs. I wish they just put them in the playoffs.
Yeah. Because they're not making the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I think I'm ready to officially say the Bengals are not going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 I'm going to look at the playoffs and when they come out, I'm going to think that the Bengals would be favored over like 70%.

Speaker 1 They might not be favored over them, but they would be the team no one wants to play. Yeah.
100%.

Speaker 1 What is, yeah, they have to play

Speaker 1 the Steelers, the Cow. I mean, they have to win every game.
They have to win every game.

Speaker 1 They have to run the table. They have to go 6-0 down the stretch to finish 10-7 and have a chance to make the playoffs.
And they have to play the Steelers twice. So

Speaker 1 I don't know how they're going to win every game. And the Broncos are in there as well.

Speaker 4 I don't know how.

Speaker 4 We've also said the same thing about the Bengals for, I think, the last five weeks.

Speaker 1 But they keep losing games like this where their offense looks incredible. And T.
Higgins was finally back, and he was awesome. And they just put themselves in such a hole this season.

Speaker 4 Did you see that one reporters tweet about how you can tell if T. Higgins is going to play?

Speaker 4 It's based on how he goes goes up the hill to practice. Oh.
Because the Bengals have to cross a street to get to their practice facility. And then there's a small hill that they have to go up.

Speaker 4 And I think when he doesn't, when he's not going to play that week, he walks up the hill. And when he is going to play,

Speaker 4 he does like a little jog up it.

Speaker 1 Hey, Mike Brown, why wouldn't you just pay T. Higgins and Jamar Chase? And

Speaker 1 because they're really fun to watch in tandem, and they're really, really hard to defend. Yeah.
Really, really hard to defend.

Speaker 4 I just think he doesn't want to pay him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he's cheap. And it's got to be so frustrating for Bengals fans because this team,

Speaker 1 like, you're going to look back at this season, and it's going to be a season that you just are like, how did we blow this? How did we not make it to the playoffs? We had it.

Speaker 1 You lost to the Patriots week one. You lost the Ravens in two games where you could have easily won either of them.

Speaker 1 I think this game tonight, I think Evan McPherson makes a kick, and it's totally different.

Speaker 4 I think Mike Brown looks at his receivers and he's like, I guess I have to pay one of you guys because you have to have one good receiver.

Speaker 4 But the more I pay my second receiver, that just means I'm going to have to pay my quarterback more in like six years. Yeah.
So I don't want to do that either.

Speaker 1 Also, I gave you guys the stat about Matt Eberflues in one-score games. Zach Taylor, also not great in one-score games.

Speaker 1 So he is 39% in one-score games, which is third worst or second worst of active coaches because Dennis Allen was second, but he's not an active coach anymore.

Speaker 1 By the way, Max Nick Siriani is second best behind only Kevin O'Connell. These are from Stadhole in one-score games.
Pretty good. Great coach.
Pretty good.

Speaker 4 But how many of those are backdoor one-score games? I don't know. Where you've got a two-score game and then you take your foot off the gas.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 for Nick Siriani? Yeah, I'm just saying. Yeah, yeah, true.
It's a good point. You got to think about it.
You do have to think about it.

Speaker 1 Consider a thought. Okay.
Thought. And how did you process it? I don't know.
By the way, thank you to everyone who bet with us on the TD parlay. We hit one.

Speaker 4 Decisively.

Speaker 1 Decisive. Next week, when we do our show on Thursday, we have to be decisive.
Shout out that AWO who told me, you guys need to be decisive.

Speaker 1 When you're not decisive, it's got a 0% chance of hitting. J.K.

Speaker 4 Dobbins, he was like an exclamation point with the second touchdown.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they didn't even want him to score the first one. They ran three plays without him on the field.

Speaker 4 All right, so I heard some people saying that J.K. Dobbins should have gone down instead of scoring that last touchdown.

Speaker 4 I say to that person, you need a better understanding of the history of the Los Angeles Chargers. I'm okay.
Like, yes, Joe Burrow had 18 seconds left.

Speaker 4 There's a lot that can go wrong with a field goal in that minute.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll take a chance with that. I'll take a chance with that for sure.
Because especially, I mean,

Speaker 1 we know kicks get blocked. The Broncos last week.
That happens. Yep.
That happens.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 What? It did. It happened last week.
Yeah, no, kicks get blocked. The kicks get blocked.
They do. Sometimes they get blocked.
The Broncos against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1 Do we want to do a quick who can win the Super Bowl recap? Yeah. Bills.
I think it's Bills. Steelers.
Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens. Chargers.

Speaker 1 Kate doesn't think the Chargers can win the Super Bowl. And you know they can't.

Speaker 5 We were arguing about this in the studio when the Chargers were up, and then Big Cat was like, save for the show, save for the show. Chargers

Speaker 1 proceeded to blanket. They charged.
They chargered.

Speaker 5 And then he was like, I take it all back. But now it's back.

Speaker 5 But you know, I think in that 30 minutes, I showed you everything that I was saying was correct. And that, yes, they're a good team.
Yes, they have Harbaugh. Yeah, they have a good quarterback.
Sure.

Speaker 1 They are not beating the Bills.

Speaker 5 They are not beating the Chiefs. They're not beating the Steelers.
They're not beating the Ravens. They're not beating the Lions.
They're probably not beating the Eagles.

Speaker 5 They're not winning the Super Bowl. They will make the playoffs.
They might win a game in the playoffs. They will not win the Super Bowl.
Still a good bet.

Speaker 5 If you're going to cash out, that's 40 to 1.

Speaker 1 35 to 1. We talked about it at 45 to 1.
They're down to 20 to 1.

Speaker 5 But if you don't cash out, it's a bad bet.

Speaker 1 But that was good eyes.

Speaker 5 But you have to cash out. But it was good eyes.

Speaker 1 Admit that part.

Speaker 1 Admit that part. Yeah, kind of.
We talked about it at 45 to 1. They're down to 20 to 1.

Speaker 4 Are you going to cash out?

Speaker 1 Hank has put me in a spot. Because Hank has put me in a spot now where I don't think I can.
Because I want them to win the Super Bowl. I'm going to laugh at you.
I'm going to cash out one of them.

Speaker 1 If you're not going to cash out,

Speaker 4 then it's a bad bet. I have a 35 definition.

Speaker 1 I have a 35 to 1 and a 4. No, no, because the Chargers can win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 And then when they do, I'm going to laugh in your face. I think it's a good bet.
What do you have to do if they win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 5 Eat a column.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think you have to get a back tattoo of a lightning bolt or a cat.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like it. I'll get a lightning bolt tat.
A Chargers can.

Speaker 1 I'm talking Ben Affleck back tattoo.

Speaker 5 But I will get a back tattoo of a lightning bolt if the Chargers

Speaker 5 Bowl this year.

Speaker 5 Depends how much much they win the super bowl by

Speaker 5 how big they get a point for every point so how but what are we starting with one inch to win the super bowl they get what that's it if they win the super bowl by one they i'll get a one inch charger or a lightning bolt if they win by 20 20 inches 20 inches

Speaker 1 now i need this

Speaker 1 i think hank you should have to buy the bolt man costume i need him to blow him out

Speaker 1 okay so charger not in the could win the super bowl according to hank i i would also agree i it's not it's a good listening it's a good bet if you cash out but they cannot win the super bowl max would you find it interesting that the two people who don't think the chargers can win the super bowl are the two people who already cashed out the chargers future that we placed as a podcast together from camaraderie not me that was because of responsible gambling or are you saying that you don't encourage responsible gamblers i'm just saying that you guys both if you guys had stayed stayed the course as a podcast i got two would you be thinking differently

Speaker 1 i'd be fiction

Speaker 5 because i I don't like to give away money. I like to actually have a chance to win it.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Also, there's just too many.

Speaker 1 When you cash out for a loss, you could have stayed the course. J.K.
Dobbins,

Speaker 1 huh? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, cash out of that and bet the bangles, whatever. Fuck you, man.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 And then in the NFC, I'm going to say the Eagles and the Lions.

Speaker 1 Maybe the Cardinals.

Speaker 5 I don't know. No, not the Cardinals.
49ers can make a run. No, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 5 They could make a run.

Speaker 4 I could see them. I could see I could still see the Vikings.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 I could. Let's get serious.
Falcons? No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Were you listening when we were talking about the Falcons? They can't rush the passer.

Speaker 1 We're getting to the

Speaker 1 real football time. Maybe the Packers.

Speaker 1 No. Jordan Love just throws picks.

Speaker 1 Stinks. He gets lucky.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's do who's back of the week and wrap up the show.

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Speaker 1 The Bengals also could win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 If they were allowed to play in it.

Speaker 1 If they can get in, if they can run the table, they could win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 If, yeah, if the NFL stepped in at the last second and said every team from the AFC has been disqualified, Bengals, you're our only hope, then I would think that they could, but then they'd lose.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They would lose in a tragic fashion.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel bad for Bengals fans.

Speaker 1 Same. I mean, think about if you're...

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel bad for Bengals fans because that was like, what,

Speaker 1 three years ago, Burrowhead.

Speaker 5 All that stuff. And they're playing well, and it's like the Chiefs are playing bad, but they're like, I feel like the Bengals have played better than than the Chiefs have this whole season.

Speaker 5 The thing is,

Speaker 5 I'm not joking. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 they've gotten

Speaker 1 some bad losses.

Speaker 4 See, when we think about playing better, we think about offense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, their offense has

Speaker 4 been bad. Defense is very bad.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs' defense is very good.

Speaker 4 The tough part about being a Bengals fan is also that

Speaker 4 you know that you're not going to go out and fix your needs in free agency. No.
No. You're going to have to have

Speaker 4 a great draft next year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel very bad. Because, yeah, if you talk to a Bengals fan after the 2021 season when they go to a Super Bowl, you're like, this is going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 And this is the worst part about sports is like Joe Burrow gets injured for a year,

Speaker 1 year gone.

Speaker 1 Defense is bad, you know, takes a huge step back and is bad, year gone. And it's just like, you start doing the math in your head and you're like, fuck.

Speaker 1 How are we three years down the road and we haven't been even like remotely back to it?

Speaker 4 Yeah, but at times you look like you're back.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They play fun offense.
But yeah, their defense,

Speaker 1 they have not played better than the Chiefs this year.

Speaker 4 Take it back. No.

Speaker 5 I test.

Speaker 1 My test. My test.

Speaker 5 All right, who's back of the week? Who's back of the week is Rory McElroy.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 He won the race to Dubai.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he said that. He said that's what he was focusing on.
That's all he cares about.

Speaker 5 It's a prestigious race to Dubai. It's his sixth.
race to Dubai. He loves racing to Dubai.
He does it and wins every year.

Speaker 1 It's the perfect tournament for him because we're all watching football, and so he has no pressure. And if he chokes, no one would even know.
Yeah,

Speaker 5 it was actually like when I woke up this morning and opened my phone because it's Dubai, it was the first thing I saw. So no one even watched it either.

Speaker 1 No. It was like, congrats to Rory for winning the race in Dubai this morning.

Speaker 4 So was this in

Speaker 4 Dubai?

Speaker 5 I don't know. I don't know if it's like one of those.

Speaker 5 Well, they race to it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's a horse.

Speaker 5 You know, like that horse race where they race across the desert? Yeah. It's like one of those where they start in one place and go and end up in Dubai.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 But he won the road to Dubai.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So now, does he have to go to Dubai?

Speaker 1 I think he won it there.

Speaker 4 So that's confusing. The road to Dubai is played in Dubai.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, no, the road to Dubai leads up to it.

Speaker 5 I think it's the race to Dubai.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a race to Dubai, and then he leads up to what he won today, the DP World Tour.

Speaker 6 This trophy is incredible.

Speaker 5 Look at this thing. That's why he's so focused on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he loves it. He's got six.
It's like walking sticks.

Speaker 4 It's a scepter.

Speaker 1 Why? That's a crazy.

Speaker 1 Two trophies. To hold up.
Six for this trophy is quite something.

Speaker 1 Quite something. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's like Jordan.

Speaker 5 One more Ty Brady.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Good for Rory. Best to ever do it.
Good for Rory.

Speaker 1 Good for Rory.

Speaker 4 His home course. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, PFT, your Who's Back of the Week?

Speaker 4 My Who's Back of the Week is the Cleveland Cavaliers. Oh.
Cavs are back.

Speaker 4 They put a graphic on the broadcast tonight. I'd like you guys to take a guess about this.
Who do you think leads the NBA

Speaker 4 in wins? Player that has the most wins in the NBA since the year 2020.

Speaker 1 Who has the most wins in the NBA since 2020?

Speaker 4 Yep, since the 2020 season.

Speaker 1 What player?

Speaker 5 It's got to be Donovan Mitchell if you're asking that question.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, it does not. It is the minivan, George Ngang.

Speaker 1 Oh, that makes sense.

Speaker 4 George Nyang, 214. Nikola Jokic distance second with only 203 wins.
Then Tatum with 202.

Speaker 4 Drew Holiday with 201 wins.

Speaker 1 Huh.

Speaker 4 Weird stat. Good for him.
I don't know how that works out. Good for him.
And then also along those same lines,

Speaker 4 Inside the NBA is back. Yeah.
Because they've agreed to keep it running next year. They're going to license it to ESPN.
So it's not going off the air.

Speaker 1 I'm happy we did a whole year where we

Speaker 1 said that it was going to be gone forever and everyone got really upset. It's like, I remember at the end of last year when everyone was pretending like it was done forever.

Speaker 1 It's like, wait, they have another year? They're going to get it figured out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so

Speaker 4 they got a victory lap and a goodbye tour.

Speaker 1 They did an obituary.

Speaker 1 They did a funeral for themselves.

Speaker 5 That's got to be regular season wins.

Speaker 4 It probably is regular season wins, but it didn't. Let's see what the graphics say.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's got to be regular season wins because he played on the Sixers, and that's not why you're still upset about that. Just as

Speaker 4 most player wins since 2020,

Speaker 5 that's a crazy stat. Good for George.
Yeah, he's our guy.

Speaker 1 Front of the program.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. And the Sixers get the one seed a couple of years? Yeah, Sixers were good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They were good.

Speaker 6 Regular season.

Speaker 1 Regular season, they were really good.

Speaker 1 It's football.

Speaker 1 It's football season.

Speaker 5 Are they good this year? I actually have a fun stat, too.

Speaker 6 Jared McCain's really good.

Speaker 4 Is this stat about the Celtics?

Speaker 5 This was sent over from our stats guy, Paul. Jason Tatum traveled.

Speaker 1 Is Paul bald?

Speaker 1 Our stats guy? I've never met our stats guy.

Speaker 5 I've never seen it. Paul Paul?

Speaker 1 I've never seen it without us. Is it bald, Paul?

Speaker 4 When you say stats, what kind of stats are we talking about?

Speaker 5 So he sent us from the status.

Speaker 1 Are you talking about the bar he likes to go to?

Speaker 4 By stats, do you mean body count?

Speaker 5 No, the stat was that Paul said was the 76ers are 11 games back, 12 games into their season.

Speaker 1 I love that Gaz, Gaz's clips of this show are so, they crack me up every time.

Speaker 4 He just takes every pro-Hank stand. Yeah, he just says,

Speaker 1 he tweets a clip of Hank and says, tell your co-host.

Speaker 1 That's a good stat, though. It's a good stat.

Speaker 1 Good to the show. What do you think about that stat, Max? What is the stat again?

Speaker 5 The Sixers are 11 games back, 12 games into their season. How's that possible?

Speaker 4 How's that possible to do, Hank?

Speaker 1 Yeah, isn't that...

Speaker 5 I don't know.

Speaker 5 That's insane. I trust our stats department.
That's interesting.

Speaker 1 They're 12 games back. Look at this travel from Jason Tatum.

Speaker 1 Look at this.

Speaker 4 What are they 12 games back? One, two, three.

Speaker 1 Four.

Speaker 1 Dribble.

Speaker 6 He was doing like a.

Speaker 5 Oh, wait, was that the game-winning Buzzer Beater 3 he had last night?

Speaker 1 Travel.

Speaker 5 Did you see the

Speaker 5 flagrant when Jalen Brown almost got a switch?

Speaker 1 Sitting in the back?

Speaker 4 Travel. Also, shout out to Julius Randall.

Speaker 5 They cut it before this clip. One second before this clip, Jalen Brown almost got killed.
Jason Tatum had to improvise, cash the game-winning three.

Speaker 1 Who'd they beat?

Speaker 5 The Raptors. Got it.

Speaker 6 The Raptors are having a good year, right?

Speaker 1 They were playing good last night. It went to overtime.

Speaker 4 You would suck a dick to beat the Raptors.

Speaker 6 They're the same record as us.

Speaker 4 You'd still suck it.

Speaker 1 All right, My Who's Back. Playoffs? I think the Raptors beat us earlier in the year.

Speaker 1 That's a good question, Hank.

Speaker 4 What'd you say? So remember when you guys played in the playoffs?

Speaker 1 Oh, I do remember that.

Speaker 6 Nope.

Speaker 1 That's when the process died.

Speaker 6 I didn't exist yet.

Speaker 4 I wasn't born yet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you did. No, he didn't exist on this show.
He existed to me. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 All right, Mike, who's back of the week is being a national sports podcast because people really like that. So,

Speaker 1 quick national sports podcast.

Speaker 1 The Jake Paul-Mike Tyson fight.

Speaker 1 I guess credit to Jake Paul for not knocking out Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 And we said it before, but this has been two decades of me buying, I guess I didn't buy the fight because it was Netflix, of watching Mike Tyson fights and being like, well, all it takes is one punch because he's Iron Mike.

Speaker 1 He had no chance of winning that. Jake Paul took mercy on his soul.

Speaker 4 Which should never happen in a boxing match. Like, you should not spend rounds taking mercy on your opponent.

Speaker 1 But I'm happy he did.

Speaker 1 It would have been sad. I get it.

Speaker 4 No, listen, it was the right move for him to do. I'm just saying the entire setup of it.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 If you're talking about, like, I always respect a guy in the UFC that clearly knocks his opponent out and doesn't go in for the kill shot and like try to kill him as he's on the ground unconscious.

Speaker 4 That's a cool thing to do.

Speaker 4 But if you're going to have a boxing match that is licensed as a boxing match, it should not be one guy taking his foot off the gas, trying not to hurt his opponent.

Speaker 1 Counterpoint, Mike Tyson is 60 years old.

Speaker 4 And he also got five transfusions of blood.

Speaker 4 He said he almost died over the summer.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 He couldn't move forward. Like, I just was fixated on his right knee and how it was.
No, he couldn't do anything.

Speaker 5 As a national podcast, we need to start the movement and take a stand because the worst part about that fight is that I think the takeaway was that it was a success. And it was not.

Speaker 5 It was just shitty.

Speaker 1 It was not. It was shitty.
It was not.

Speaker 5 Shitty sporting event. But because of the numbers and the viewership and all that bullshit, they're going to be like, oh, we need to do more of this when it was so bad.

Speaker 4 Okay, so as a national sports podcast, I think we should.

Speaker 5 We need to bring back real fights.

Speaker 1 I think we should. Like John Jones, who's a beast.
National Sports Podcast, he's a beast. He's all the way back.

Speaker 4 I'll say something good about the fight.

Speaker 4 One, it was very easy to find an illegal stream of it because Netflix just fucked up. Netflix, and they're doing Christmas games.
They're not ready. They're not ready.
Netflix is not ready.

Speaker 4 I couldn't get it to load on my phone, on my TV. It didn't work.
It didn't work.

Speaker 4 But the good thing about what happened with that fight was after watching that shitty, shitty match, I immediately went on YouTube and watched hours of good boxing matches.

Speaker 4 I watched Hearns Hagler. I watched Castile Corrales, two of them.

Speaker 4 I watched all the Katie Taylor fights because she's fun to watch, too.

Speaker 4 She's a dirty fighter, but in a good way.

Speaker 5 We saw that first one. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I got a question. It's a national sports podcast.
And this is Circle of Trust PFT. Feel free to be honest, and we don't have to.
I always am. Okay.

Speaker 1 When I rode with you on the under six and a half rounds,

Speaker 1 did you know there were two-minute rounds? I did.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because when I turned on the fight, I was like, fuck, they're two minutes.

Speaker 4 National Sports Podcast.

Speaker 1 National Sports Podcast.

Speaker 4 And I'm being completely honest. Yeah.

Speaker 4 When I put the bet in, I did not know that there were two-minute rounds.

Speaker 1 But are you going to tell me that you told me to put the bet in?

Speaker 4 But then I found out not long after I put the bet in, and I started telling people I love this bet.

Speaker 4 I found out there were two-minute rounds, and I was like, I still really like this bet. So I felt more, I felt just as comfortable with two-minute rounds.

Speaker 1 I wish I had known the two-minute rounds. I did not.
And when I turned it on,

Speaker 1 I appreciate your honesty. Wouldn't that have pissed you?

Speaker 5 Doesn't that piss you off, even though it was whatever, like the right thing to do, and he didn't knock him out? It's like, people are going to bet it is officially saying

Speaker 1 that it pisses me off. Oh, yeah, of course.
But

Speaker 1 it was so apparent that Mike Tyson shouldn't have been in that ring.

Speaker 1 Like, I didn't want to see him get knocked out. He's fucking, it was elder abuse.
That third round was elder abuse.

Speaker 1 That was the round where Jake Paul was like, I'm going to start unloading, and Mike Tyson couldn't move. And then for the rest of the fight, he's like, I'm just going to.

Speaker 1 And I think he obviously, like, there was the whole story that Jake Paul's dad, like, was a Mike Tyson super fan and and I don't know they just let's stop doing it Mike Tyson's done he's been done for 20 years he was washed 20 years ago this is stupid Jake Paul fight someone your own age please he did he lost yeah he lost the only guy his own age that's right

Speaker 4 also what's ridiculous about this is that Mike Tyson said afterwards like it was it was an honor for my family in the crowd to be able to watch me fight in a fight like this yeah he wanted his family to see him get his ass kicked as a six-year-old man.

Speaker 1 I think he wanted his family to see him be in a one last big fight and also he wanted to see his family cash $20 million. That's true.

Speaker 4 That was the part. The money is pretty good.
That was the part. There was a report that the fight was not going to be officially sanctioned at all.

Speaker 4 But then Jerry Jones wanted to make more money off of it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So Jerry Jones circumvented the Texas Boxing Commission or whatever, called the governor and just said, hey, can we just certify this fight as a legit fight? Yeah. And it was done.

Speaker 4 It should never have been a legit fight. No, it was.

Speaker 1 That rules.

Speaker 1 This whole thing. I kind of agree with Hank.
Like, to have that kind of power,

Speaker 4 it's like old, like Game of Thrones shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they just showed Mike Tyson using a cane to walk two years ago. Also, his ass cheeks were very funny.

Speaker 1 That was worth it alone. That was such a great clip.

Speaker 5 I feel like Serrano was a good match, although Serrano gets

Speaker 5 bang-jobbed every time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, credits to Jake Paul. He put a very good female fight, right? Like, that elevated it.
But, But,

Speaker 1 yeah, we should stop with that. Jake Paul, fight someone your own age, please.

Speaker 1 Also, as a national sports podcast, we should shout out our guy, Rick Petino, because he tried to

Speaker 1 silenced the crowd at MSG today because he was beating his son, coach of New Mexico, and the crowd started chanting, who's your daddy? And he was like, please stop.

Speaker 4 Let's keep it classy, guys. Let's keep it classy.

Speaker 1 And as a national sports podcast, I just want to say,

Speaker 1 I don't know if you guys have seen Marcus Johnson on Bowling Green, but he's

Speaker 1 he might be better than DJ Burns. He's a big man who shoots threes and he's fucking awesome.
He looks so smooth doing so smooth. Did you guys see him? No, pull up.
Two, here we go. He is.
He's a tank.

Speaker 1 He's a tank and he just whaps threes and he like he

Speaker 1 has handle.

Speaker 1 He put 26, I think, on Michigan State at Michigan State. It was awesome to watch.
So we need to get Bowling Green Bengals into the playoffs, Bowling Green into the tournament Because

Speaker 1 he's doing everything. He's just a

Speaker 1 smooth, big man, left, right, whatever you need, three-pointers

Speaker 1 in the paint. He can do it all.

Speaker 1 What was his sat line for this game? Because I realize we also just only are watching his makes.

Speaker 1 That would be really funny if he was 10 for 28.

Speaker 6 That's fine. The misses don't matter.

Speaker 4 That one part of the highlight cut away before the ball even got to the basket. Probably a miss.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But he's, as a national sports podcast, we need to say, Marcus Johnson, he's awesome.

Speaker 4 I always love that when they show like either hockey compilations or soccer where something cool happens and then it just stops.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, he's nine for 24. Oh, God.

Speaker 1 Oh, the highlight tape was cool. 9 for 24.
He's one for 11 from 3.

Speaker 1 He was 1 for 11 from 3.

Speaker 1 We saw his one-made three.

Speaker 4 He's the Spice Adams.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. That's incredible.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's so good. I don't regret this.

Speaker 1 I don't either.

Speaker 1 No, actually, you know what?

Speaker 1 Spin it the other way. Just have him stop shooting threes because if he didn't shoot any threes, he would have been 8 for 13 in the game.
He was smooth. Now let the man shoot.

Speaker 1 1 for 11 from 3 is hilarious. And then to have a highlight tape of him hitting 1-3 that was just so wet.
And you're like, oh, man, he's a lethal three-point shooter.

Speaker 4 National Sports Podcast, Avechkin's now 29 away from the record. Oh.
He's unhuman. That is a big one.
I think he's got 11 goals in the last 10 games.

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 1 he's not a terrible three-point shooter. He went 5 for 10, 2 for 5, 5 for 6 in his other three games.
So, National Sports Podcast, maybe he should keep shooting threes.

Speaker 4 What was the score of the game?

Speaker 1 They only lost by 6.

Speaker 1 I'm also wrong. What?

Speaker 1 They lost by 14.

Speaker 1 That was close. So he had to shoot.
That was close.

Speaker 1 That was pretty close. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where has he been? Where did he play before this? Or has he been on Bowling Green?

Speaker 1 Can you find that?

Speaker 6 They also have losses to Southern Miss and Davidson. Listen,

Speaker 1 they're not going to be able to get in the winter.

Speaker 1 He's awesome.

Speaker 1 He should be in the tournament.

Speaker 5 They're not going to be in the tournament, so it's not going to be. The Taylor Trojan.

Speaker 1 But he still was awesome. That highlight tape was sick.

Speaker 1 Where has he been playing before? Did he

Speaker 1 say C2 or something? Sounds like a local.

Speaker 1 You think we're no longer national sports podcasts because of this?

Speaker 1 It sounds like a beat reporter you know covering their local team big man balling is national sports podcasting news you know that come on it's got a win taylor's an naia team that's the only win that they have the nation wants oh he was the nation wants winners he was a division two player last year so um

Speaker 1 the name marcus johnson's a winner i don't know if you just take out the win i don't know if we want winners we want big dudes that can move doing cool shit

Speaker 1 We want

Speaker 4 big boy grilling on the roof. That's what the nation wants.

Speaker 1 One for 11 from three is so funny. That highlight tape had me like he was a lottery pick after I watched that highlight tape.
So one for

Speaker 1 so smooth. All right, that was good.
National Sports Podcasting.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 National Sports Podcast, WNBA draft happened, or the lottery happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah, who ended up winning? I know the Scott got the third pick.

Speaker 4 National Sports Podcast, Dallas.

Speaker 1 Dallas.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's your National Sports Podcast update. Let's do numbers

Speaker 1 three. 12.

Speaker 1 11. 77.

Speaker 1 Oh, memes. 85.

Speaker 4 99.

Speaker 1 Pug. Oh, his mic wasn't on.
99.

Speaker 6 Pug.

Speaker 1 Shane. Shane.
73. That was Jack.
Shane.

Speaker 1 Give us the number and also Chargers.

Speaker 5 21.

Speaker 1 What about him? Just, you know what about him? Great win. Yeah.
Great win. Not the Chargers anymore.
Not the Chargers. That was a game they lose 100 times out of 100.

Speaker 4 Staley would have lost that by 30.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Every coach of yours ever would have lost that.
Harbaugh. Harbaugh.

Speaker 1 Nine

Speaker 1 nine

Speaker 1 nine.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.