
NFL Week 5, Fastest 2 Minutes, Recapping A Wild Sunday, Deshaun Needs To Benched Plus Playoff Baseball
NFL Week 5 and we start with fastest 2 minutes. We then get into every game from a wild Sunday (00:00:00-00:09:55) Vikings 23, Jets 17 (00:09:55-00:13:21) Ravens 41, Bengals 38 (00:13:21-00:25:38) Texans 23, Bills 20 (00:25:38-00:37:56) Commanders 34, Browns 13 (00:37:56-00:51:34) Jaguars 37, Colts 34 (01:11:43-01:18:26) Bears 36, Panthers 10 (01:18:26-01:25:45) Dolphins 15, Patriots 10 (01:25:45-01:38:19) Cardinals 24, 49ers 23 (01:38:19-01:42:51) Broncos 34, Raiders 18 (01:42:51-01:52:19) Giants 29, Seahawks 20 (01:52:19-02:00:03) Packers 24, Rams 19 (02:00:03-02:02:56) Talk some playoff baseball (02:02:56-02:14:01) Cowboys 20, Steelers 17 (02:14:01-02:21:27) We wrap up with who's back of the week (02:21:27-02:31:19).
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On today's part of my take, week five in the NFL, an incredible, incredible weekend of football.
Awesome Sunday.
We're going to recap it all.
This side of the desk is pretty happy. Good weekend.
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Today is Monday, October 7th, week five. What? What? What? What? What? What? Some spread.
What? We start in Cincinnati where Lamarie Miss Jackson, as the outcast big boy Derek Henry get up and got out of overtime with a bunch 52-yard run to make the Bengals one and four real. Zay Bouquet of Flowers showed the world that the Beng' defense smells like poo, poo, poo.
Like poo, poo, poo. After the Ravens put up 41 large ones.
Joe Burrow versus Wade had a nice run, but then was overturned once by the Baltimore defense. And that was all it took.
The Ravens 41. The Bengals 38.
In H-TTown Nico Tom Collins was shaken up after a big touchdown adding some extra sour lemon juice to the Texans offense upon his exit webcam acres exposed the Bills D as only fans of the Texans got aroused the Bills turned the lights back on with their offense when Neon Coleman scored a big touchdown cutting the lead to three, but it was too little too late. Though Sean McDermott had to take his hat off to the leadership shown by CJ Stroudy Arabia and his attack against New York's team.
The Texans 23, the Bills 20. In Chicago where Caleb Williams hit DJ Mandy Moore on a walk to remember to start the scoring as the Panthers took a page out of their owner's book, burning down the house with business decisions.
Andy Dalton went into his old roadhouse and learned that no one ever wins a fight, especially when the team you're fighting took all your draft picks of good players. Bryce, forever young, made an appearance in mop-up duty, still looking like a little kid sitting in a sandpit.
Panthers are a depressing trip, forever young. Bears, 36.
Panthers, 10. And now we head on overseas for our foreign correspondent, Memes, in London.
We head to foggy London town where Andrew Van Halen Ginkle was running with the devil on his way to a pick six, while CJ Hamcheese and Crumpet said, please sir, may I have some more? Touchdowns that is. Braylon Edgar Allen Poe said, believe nothing you hear and only half what you see except Nathaniel Cant Hackett was spotted at every single ditty party.
Source, trust me bro. Quincy Williams Shakespeare wanted some accountability after the game.
To ayahuasca or to not ayahuasca? That is the question. Happy Stefan Gilmore said the price is wrong, bitch, after sealing the win for the Vikings.
Vikings 23, Jets 17. Now, thank you, memes.
From London, we go to Foxborough where Henry Lockwood's on the scene. Over to Gillette Stadium for the AFC East Poop Bowl.
Ramondre 3000 Stevenson told the Dolphins D they weren't as fresh as him as he broke a fresh and clean, clean 33-yard scamper for a first-quarter TD. Jason Bernie Sanders added three field goals and taxed the Patriots' rich D so bad they wish they invested their money in gold.
Alex, that is, who scored a go-ahead
touchdown in the fourth quarter.
Jalen James Polk answered with what looked like a
go-ahead TD of his own, but the refs
say he annexed his feet out of the end zone.
Dolphins win, 15-10.
And if the season ended
today, the mighty
New England Patriots would be on
the clock.
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Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
Over to Denver,
where the only Colorado football game this weekend had
Celine Dion Sanders left
singing, My Heart Will
Bow On,
as SEAL Team Knicks sank the
Raiders' hope of
the ship. Gardner, it's
raining Minshew, danced around
I'm sorry. on as SEAL Team Knicks sank the Raiders' hope of the ship.
Gardner, it's raining Minshew, danced around but it looks like a Green New Deal as AOC Alex O'Connell took over and had a couple really nice cannons. The Broncos were wearing their throwback blue helmets as Sean Spaten made sure the team from the Infernal Desert won't be having any playoff berths.
The Broncos, 34. Raiders, 18.
Out west in Seattle where Rashawn Leroy Jenkins said, fuck this shit and returned to fumble 100 yards to start the scoring. Darius got Slaytanik on the Seahawks defense going for 122 and a score, but after Michael Jackson, Smith, and Jigba moonwalked to the end zone late, the game got tight.
The Seahawks lined up for a game-tying field goal only to have the kick blocked by the law offices of Bryce Ford and Wheaton as Isaiah Ben Simmons is different this year after his summer workouts returned it for a touchdown and the win. Giants 29, Seahawks 20.
Oh, and we have playoff baseball with Max. It was looking like another rough night for the fans in Philadelphia as Shark Viento said, smile you son of a bitch as he launched a bullet into the seats to take an early lead.
However, for the first time in forever, Ice Harper hit a frozen rope to deep center to get the Phillies back in it. But then, just like that, Brandon Limo gave a ball a ride as he escorted the Mets to a 4-3 lead.
But thankfully, the great stot cleared the bases while reaching 80. Oh, my phone just died.
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And then. And then.
And then. And then.
And then. And then.
And then there was a deep line drive to the left field
And Nick Cassiano's won the game
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We'll be right back. Standing on the corner Jameis Winston Cuyahoga Such a fine sight to see It's the Browns They suck another left hand up The commander's asking Who are we? Deshaun's no runner He's such a bummer How can anyone anyone root for such a pervert comer? The commanders take down the rounds 34-13.
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Okay, week five in the books while we wait for a stupid-ass lightning delay. We'll talk Steelers-Cowboys sometime at the end.
Yeah, I was just saying, when was the last time somebody got hit by lightning? Just get out there, suit up, and play like when America was great. And then Big Cat just told me that Martha Stewart has been hit by lightning five times.
Four times, I believe. Four times? Martha Stewart, lightning.
Four times, I believe. Martha Stewart still.
Still looking right, by the way, boys. After the third time you get hit by lightning, you got to stop going outdoors going outdoors lightning martha stewart three times sorry three times it's still three different times she's been hit by lightning uh that's crazy that is what also the guy that was
playing jesus during passion of the cross i think he got hit by lightning he did during the filming
yeah dude getting hit by lightning would you tell if you got hit by lightning and survived you would
just tell everyone like yeah like the first moment you met him oh yeah anytime there was like a cloud
in the sky, be like, oh, that reminds me of the time I got hit by lightning. Yeah.
And I beat lightning. Yeah.
I beat lightning mano y mano. I would have a lightning tattoo that was visible.
Yep. I'd probably become a Chargers fan.
Yep. Or Harry Potter.
Yeah. One or the other.
I never read Harry Potter or watched the movies, but I think that's what happened. Did he get hit by lightning? He got hit by a curse.
Oh, a curse. Same thing.
Same thing. He left a lightning bolt scar on his head.
Got it. Okay.
Good. He survived, though.
He did. The boy who lived.
Well, I would assume he survived because you had to write the books. It was a death spell.
Right. Like, if he didn't survive, the book would have been one page.
Yeah. All right, week five.
In the books, except for that game, which we will get to. It's pretty short to get hit by lightning.
Yeah, was he? He was a baby. I always thought he'd be safe.
He was a baby? What was his mom doing? Just holding him up to the lightning? She died. No, she got hit.
She got hit by lightning and he got hit by lightning? By the spell. Oh, yeah, right.
That by lightning we already lost the plot two seconds into you explaining it that's how quickly you're way more likely to get hit by lightning than i am big cat yeah that's true statistically also more likely for like you know a promotion uh yeah to be swiped right to don't swipe right yeah swiped To dunk a basketball. For people to respect me.
A lot of those things. I don't know about the respect part.
That's up in the air. I think that's a height thing.
Did you guys think that you could get hit by lightning if you showered during a lightning storm? No. I did.
I always just thought I was still in the car because the rubber grounds you. That's why Hank doesn't shower.
Yeah, that's a fact. And he's never been hit by lightning.
This is our preamble, lightning delay. That was our lightning delay to talk about week five.
Let's get into some football. That was an awesome, awesome Sunday.
It was a great weekend of football. We'll talk college football on Wednesday, but the whole weekend was like, man, I love football.
I feel like this was one of those weekends where it's like, what do people do when they don't watch football? And then you step outside and you're like, oh, yeah, it's actually also a really nice weekend outdoors. It was a beautiful weekend.
I think that as good of a weekend as it was outside for non-football fans, I think it was as good for football fans. Yeah, zero regrets watching all the football this weekend because it delivered time and time again.
We had an incredible witching hour. We had some shootouts.
We had some big... I mean, the early slate was really where it was at.
And we only had six games because we had the London game to start everything off at 8.30 in the morning. The Vikings 23, Jets 17.
God damn, does a London game always suck. When have we had a really great London game? I think there was a tie.
I want to say maybe the Redskins tied the Bengals at some point. It really is.
The London game always just proves that whenever they give us football, we'll watch it no matter what the quality of it. Because this game started with both defenses played well.
Both quarterbacks didn't play well. Aaron Rodgers threw three picks.
He looks old as fuck. He looks angry as fuck.
They still almost came back and won the game if it weren't for his third pick. And I feel like, so I walked in here on Sunday mornings.
I usually bring my kids to the office so they can run around the gym and everything. So I walked in here at like 9 a.m and uh i had my two oldest and memes was sitting by himself in the gambling cave screaming at the tv they were having they were laughing their butts off listening to memes go crazy memes kept apologizing i was like dude you don't think this happens at my house and they were giggling they're like who is that who is that guy? Yeah, it was a tough game for Jets fans because in the first half, it looked like it was going to be another Vikings blowout.
Yeah. And I guess we got the question answered, like, can the Vikings win a close game? Well, and can the Vikings win without Sam Darnold being awesome? He had his worst game of the season by far today.
I think he completed like 50% of his passes. Yeah, he didn't look good.
He also got banged up. But the Vikings the Vikings defense is for real for real for real.
Yeah, and that's that's the difference because they didn't play a perfect game and they still want their definitely engineered to play with a lead. Yeah, because their defensive line will get after you.
It'll be interesting to see if they play a game where they have to come from behind how their defense holds up then. But here's a here's an interesting stat that I read about Aaron Rod Rodgers today and the Jets.
Did you know that he has as many three interception games with the Jets as Zach Wilson had in his 11 starts last season? Wow. That's kind of interesting, isn't it? Wait, is this his second one? This is his third.
His third one? Let's see. Maybe second? Yeah.
Is it second or third? third anyways it's tied with zach wilson yeah he is uh he i mean he's not an interception thrower so this is this is he looks bad he looks old he looks angry memes um from your point of view it feels bad right now doesn't it? The offense feels bad. Everything feels bad.
Yeah.
Yeah, it feels really bad.
And then we had Quincy Williams afterwards in the locker room said,
people got to start taking accountability.
So that's where we're at with the Jets season.
People have to start taking accountability.
What does that look like?
I think it's probably Robert Salah saying, I'm in over my head, guys.
Nathaniel Hackett saying, hey, I know that you keep giving me a dummy headset. Just keep doing that.
Rodgers maybe saying, hey, I'm going to try to be a nicer person. And yeah, that's probably it.
And Hassan Redick coming to the team. Hassan Redick coming to the team.
Hassan Redick needs to take accountability. And Joe Douglas being like, hey, you know what? I'm going to take accountability.
I am going to trade for Devontae Adams because it won't solve everything, but it does feel like their offense doesn't have – their offense isn't inspiring. Let's say that.
So for me, it might be everybody on the Jets' front office, all the Jets' brass, as Adam Schefter put it, the brass, the full brass saying, I don't know if it was a great idea to mortgage our entire franchise for a shadow gm that's going to come in here when he's done taking drugs and then try to run the team correct and also he's 40 years old yes he's 40 years old and he's starting to look 40 years old i know he's been dealing with a knee issue i think he turned his ankle uh tottenham turf sucks yeah but But Aaron Rodgers, the Jets are obviously we have the Browns who we'll get to, but the Jets are the second team, in my advanced analytics, bad vibes team. Yeah, they're a bummer.
They've been a bummer and as bad as they are, they might be I think they might be the second best two and three team in the league. Yeah, no, they're still I still think they're going to probably go to the playoffs because Aaron Rodgers is still too good, even though he's not peak Aaron Rodgers.
He hasn't been for a while, but you thought you wouldn't get three interception Aaron Rodgers. There was a moment in the game where it felt like they were just showing.
It was like Robert Salah, then Rodgers, I think Hackett maybe for a second, a Jets fan, and everyone had a big frown on their face and looked like they were having a horrendous time. Yeah, Robert Salah does not look happy on the sidelines at all.
And it's not that he's mad. I would actually like it better if he got mad, but he never really turns the corner of that emotion.
He's just always got this look on his face like, I can't believe I have to fucking deal with this shit yeah and it's it's tough to watch but i i think that if the jets can beat the bills monday night football next week oh that's a good big game uh this this is a i'm gonna say it's a can't lose game for the jets i think it's a can't lose game for both because they got two teams in the division that are obviously not good correct right now as they stand who knows what's gonna happen when two gets back but right now the dolphins and the patriots are not good the jets in the now, as they stand, who knows what's going to happen when Tua gets back. But right now, the Dolphins and the Patriots are not good.
The Jets and the Bills aren't great, but you could convince me that either one of those two could win the division.
Yes.
And here's a positive for you, Memes, before we talk a little more about the Vikings.
Aaron Rodgers doesn't hate Garrett Wilson as much as we thought, because it felt like
he was force-feeding him.
It felt like he saw everyone say, hey, does Aaron Rodgers garrett wilson he's like no i don't here's how much i don't and i'm gonna throw him the ball a bunch so that's good memes that is positive and uh i found out today they call three plays at a time for aaron rogers oh okay is that why he was doing that clip is not did not look good when he was just motioning to the sideline to get the play in faster. It was that one and him crawling on the ground that were just, again, bad vibes for the Jets overall.
They're a bad vibes team. Yeah.
I mean, he did battle back from what I think everybody thought was like a season-ending leg injury. Yes.
When he got hit, his foot got pinned underneath the guy, and then he was out for a little bit.
It looked awful, about as bad as it can look for Jets fans,
but then he came right back in.
So, Memes, his knee is okay?
His knee is okay.
His knee is okay.
His knee is okay.
The crazy thing is, Memes, as bad as today was and last week,
so it's like a culmination of these two games,
if you look at the AFC, the AFC is kind of bad in general outside of a couple teams at the top because with the bangles being one and four we'll talk about next uh it just like the jets are right now in the eighth spot and ahead of them are the chargers the ravens who i are very good the broncos uh the bills and the steelers who who you could make an argument that the Chargers, Broncos, Bills, Steelers, there's a chance one of, if not a couple of those teams, don't make it and the Jets have a spot to – they'll be fine, I think. I think they would – if I had to go gun to my head, I think the Jets are still a playoff team, but it's just bad vibes.
Yeah, I'm looking through the records right now. Here are the other two and three teams, if we're doing two and three power rankings oh okay we got the dolphins they're two and three yeah bad the raiders are two and three bad we've got the colts are two and three bad if they go back to anthony richardson and then we go to the nfc we got the giants at two and three surprisingly uh feisty feisty feisty we got the uh cardinals and the niners also feisty Ninersisty, feisty.
We've got the Cardinals and the Niners. Also feisty.
Niners good, but bad record. Yep.
And then, yeah, that's it. That's all we got.
So you're going to be okay, memes. You just got to figure out a way.
Hank's just kind of smiling here, Hank, because, I mean, your team is bad, but you've got to love the fact that memes, they're all in. Yeah, I feel bad.
I want the best for memes and the Jets. It's unfortunate that in such a down year for the AFC, they're still losing to these bad teams.
I guess not the Vikings. Yeah, the Vikings are a good team.
I feel like the Tom Brady experiment in Tampa Bay really threw off the idea of how good it is to try to get a 40-year-old quarterback. the end of their and turn the entire franchise into like their little science project yeah because tom brady obviously worked very well for the tampa bay bucks um aaron rogers it seems like he's not moving around as well right now he also would have got devonta adams no question who brady yeah like if brady wanted him yeah so is rogers what i'm saying like but brady hasgers lost his fastball to be able to get a player? That's a good question.
I think so. That's actually a good take.
Yeah, that's a great take, Hank. Brady wouldn't take no for an answer.
Yeah. So, memes, looking at the schedule, you have the Bills and then at the Steelers, and then you play the Patriots again.
So you have to go 2-1 here probably.
I think we have a good chance to go 2-0.
No, no, that was three games I gave you.
We have a good chance to go in 3-0.
Oh, 3-0.
I think you said 2-0.
3-0.
Okay.
So you're fine.
You're not even freaking out.
We should be 4-1.
Listen.
Going into...
Which one should you have won? Both of them. The Broncos.
Well, I don't know about this game. Saltz Darnold dropped the easiest interception today.
Yeah, Sam Darnold wasn't good. I guess that would be the thing.
You played a game where Sam Darnold has been on fire the first four games of the season. The Vikings, we said this out on Friday, they only have been trailing for 2 minutes and 36 seconds or something this season.
The Vikings are really, really good. And you got a poor performance from Sam Darnold that you weren't able to capitalize because the Vikings' defense is very, very good.
And they made Aaron Rodgers look old and slow and bad in the pick six and the interception to seal the game. The Vikings, I think, are the most, besides the Chiefs, they're probably the team I believe in the most as of right now.
Yeah, they look very good. Again, I want to see them play if they have to come from behind.
I want to see what their defense does in a situation like that because they definitely are engineered to rush the pass or when they have a lead. And it's interesting because Sam Darnold didn't have his best game and Aaron Jones got hurt today.
Yeah, that's a bummer. And they still were okay.
Now, the bye week, probably a good time for the Vikings. Yeah, great time.
It's always a good time. Not as good as the Rams, but almost.
Yeah, if you're undefeated, the bye week is usually a good time. Yeah, it's got to feel.
We just got to regroup. That's got to feel awesome having a bye week undefeated.
But I was most impressed by the Vikings being like, we knew we were excited for Sam Darnold to play as good as he did the first four weeks of the season. We knew that there was probably going to be a game where he was, you know, not great Sam Darnold.
And can the Vikings survive that? And the answer is yes. And now you hope that great Sam Darnold comes back because he got that one out of his system.
Yep, he might. Here's another interesting stat about Aaron Rodgers here.
Did you know that he's 1-47 in games where he trails in the fourth quarter against a team that's above .500? Whoa. That's pretty crazy, isn't it? That is pretty crazy.
1-47 is a wild stat. Was the one win? I think it was two years ago.
I think it was last season at Green Bay. Okay.
But I forget who it was against. Okay.
Yeah, because I was going to say the one win i think it was two years ago i think it was last season green bay okay but i forget who it was against okay yeah because i was gonna say the the one that he got he came back against the bears 2018 that was opening night no i think it was um i was just expecting that to be like the one win was against the bears because i remember seeing that stat which looked a lot cooler when it said that it was 0 and whatever, like 0 and 35.
Yeah.
And then he gave up.
He got one back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
By the way, shout out Harrison Smith still out there doing it.
Yeah.
And all over the place.
I mean, you don't. Guys don't play on defense.
I feel like 35-year-olds.
That's not normal.
I think it's his long arm sleeves that he wears.
Yeah.
The ones that go up to the elbows.
He looks fast as shit. It completely.
Yeah. It makes him look fast sleeves that he wears.
Yeah. The ones that go up to the elbows.
He looks fast as shit.
It completely, yeah.
It makes him look fast and also protects him.
Yep.
Yeah.
All right.
So Vikings 5-0, best team in football going into the bye week.
You can't make an argument otherwise.
Yeah.
I mean, the Chiefs are the only other argument, and the Chiefs have not played yet.
So the Chiefs could lose to the Saints, and then we would look like the smartest people
in the world.
I think the Vikings are very, very much for real. I believe in Sam Darnold.
Yeah. Okay.
Next up. Ravens 41, Bengals 38.
This game was awesome. Great game.
Absolute shootout. Probably one of the coolest plays in the Ravens coming back.
And Lamar Jackson, when he fumbled the snap, then stiff-armed Sam Hubbard twice twice scrambled around and find found Isaiah likely in the end zone I think they were down 10 at the time uh this game had everything it was like Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow were just both playing perfect football and it was back and forth and the Bengals are now one and four in a game that they absolutely should have won. Because here's the problem for the Bengals.
Joe Burrow was phenomenal, and he made one mistake, and he has to play perfect for them to win because that one mistake basically cost them. It was a great game, and Jamar Chase was incredible, unguardable tonight.
Yeah. And, yeah, it's tough for the Bengals.
Joe said after the game we're not a championship team uh yeah i agree with that joe yeah he was he was 392 yards 76.9 completion five touchdowns and then the one interception is what killed him and for for a second there i look smart and hank looked dumb now i look dumb again because the bangles lost but i did look smart when it went you were. It went from 22-1 to 10-1 because he was playing so out of his mind.
And I do think the Bengals, with how bad their defense is, Joe Burrow has to play perfect, and he knows going into every game he has to play perfect, and he was playing perfect. And then that happened.
The one thing I don't understand, Zach Taylor. And so the Bengals obviously had a bad snap on the missed field goal in overtime the evan mcpherson missed field goal uh that should actually not count as a missed field goal like i don't know if they can do a stat it was crazy that he was able to kick that in uh relatively the right direction right the ball got put down about i don't know a tenth of a second before the foot hit it yeah but so my only uh qualm with Zach Taylor's coaching today was they get the the Ravens fumble because Lamar Jackson doesn't see the snap coming in overtime the Bengals get the ball back they're basically immediately in field goal range he calls three runs now I know that the the missed uh snap and hold would have you can't be like oh well if they were closer because if it was the missed snap and hold, you can't be like, oh, well, if they were closer, because if it was a missed snap and hold, even if it was a 20-yard field goal, they'd probably miss it because it was that bad.
But I don't know why, when you've had the type of game that Joe Burrow's played, and you basically have to put the whole team on Joe Burrow's back, why in that moment you wouldn't just continue to put the team on Joe Burrow's back? I agree. It was strange that he got very conservative with that because you do want to get closer.
You want to make it an easier field goal attempt if you can. Or, I mean, the way that Joe and Jamar were working, it was not unlikely that they could score a touchdown.
Right. Just be aggressive.
Let Joe Burrow win the game for you because he's been that good. And again, you have to go into every game, and it's not fair to Joe Burrow, but he has to play perfect because their defense is an absolute mess and was getting carved up.
And it looked like the Bengals' game plan was, hey, we're going to try to stop the run. Lamar Jackson was like, okay, fine.
I'll just throw the ball all over the place and hit everyone. He looks so good as a passer.
Incredible. Incredible.
That Isaiah Likely play was like play of the year so far.
It was like, I think he dribbled the ball off the ground a little bit.
I think he dribbled the ball, picked it up, two stiff arms, scrambled across his body
to Likely, just floated in there perfectly.
It was a sexual play.
Yeah.
It was a very sexual play.
And then Derek Henry ran the 52-yarder in overtime to seal the game. He's getting stronger.
He's getting stronger. He was kind of bottled up until that moment.
But it was just an awesome game. And now the Bengals, I don't know.
So I was looking at their schedule. I think they have four games coming up until they play the Ravens again.
I think they don't have any margin for error anymore. They have to win their games.
They play the Giants and the Browns, which they should win, and then the Eagles and Raiders. So I think they have to go 4-4.
That would get them to 5-4 going up against the Ravens. So this is a problem with 1-4.
We keep saying, oh, okay, they'll be okay. They'll probably be a playoff team.
They can't have another, like, whoops, we slipped up and lost the game like they lost today, where they were up 10 with five minutes left. This is true life.
Help. I am addicted to believing in the Bengals.
I still believe, too, but you see what I'm saying. If they have one or two more of these slip-ups, whether it be a week one game where they lost to a Patriots team, that might be their only win of the year.
Yeah. Or this game where they're up 10 with five and a half minutes left and they just like a comedy of errors to blow this game.
If you do that any other time, your season could be over. Yep.
And now Lamar is, as a starter, he is 9-1 against the Bengals. Yeah.
Jamar Chase torches the Bengals. Torches the Bengals.
Sorry. You were saying Lamar is against the Bengals.
But I was going to say Jamar Chase also torches the Bengals. I saw those stats.
He goes like 200 every time. But Lamar.
Sorry. I say Bengals.
Yeah, Bengals. Jamar Chase.
Jamar Chase torches the Ravens. Lamar Jackson torches the Bengals.
Now, how about this? All right, I got it. For the Ravens.
I got it. For the Ravens.
My brain just stopped for a second. We've got an Instagram update via the Devontae Adams situation.
Okay. I think this was on Friday.
Yes. He posted a picture of Edgar Allan Poe.
We all know who he looks like. The famous author who moved to New York City at the end of his his life did he yeah oh i didn't know that yeah wow i know i just remember that he died on the streets and nobody knows how he did yeah no from balt from baltimore yeah from baltimore but wait the team named after him yeah but he didn't actually move to new york i think he did at the end of his life a lot like aaron rogers a lot like a drug addict so you who moved to new york i saw jets fans trying to use that our friend tom lay was like edgar allen poe at the end of his life moved to new york city i did not know that he wrote he wrote the the raven he wrote the telltale heart tom lay might have also not fact checked that my fact checking is just reading tom lay's tweet it was and it was probably some guy online that he saw that yeah moved to new york i'm gonna look because i thought that he died on the streets of Baltimore.
Did I make that up? Maybe. He overdosed on ether or some bullshit like that.
That's badass. Yeah, it is kind of a cool way to go.
All right, later life. I'm going to look.
Either way, does that feel like he was forced to move between several cities, including Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York City. In 1836, when he was 27, he married his cousin.
God damn it.
These guys always just married their cousins.
He was real big back then, yeah.
Fucking Einstein did that shit.
I guess you didn't meet as many people.
I don't, yeah.
Communities didn't move that much,
so it's like chances are you're going to be...
Was that the version of your office wife?
Is it your family wife?
Yeah, it's my family wife. It's like, this is all the people I know so i'm just gonna start dating my cousin this is my thanksgiving wife we always really get get close during the holiday season so uh yeah yeah he moved to the bronx uh so yeah maybe that's so who knows what part of edgar allen poe's life that devont adams was referring to was referring to so yeah his final home was in the in the Bronx, New York.
If he does go to the Ravens, though, I feel like that's bad news for the AFC. Yeah.
That's bad news for the AFC. Good news for the Ravens.
Very good news for the Ravens. Good news for Stavi.
The Ravens are really, really good. And their defense did get gashed today, but here we go.
Full circle. Jamar Chase does own the Ravens.
That's true. You've always said that.
I've always said that. Not the Bengals.
He definitely doesn't own the Bengals because he can't get. Paul Brown would not.
Yeah, he can't get any money out of them. I'm going to look up Jamar Chase versus the Ravens.
This game rocked, though. That was so much fun.
Jamar Chase versus the Ravens. He owns the Ravens in the last couple times.
Oh, no, he had 193 in – that was today, 193 in two touchdowns. He had a game where he had 201 in a touchdown.
That's owning him a little bit, 125. The Bengals' defense is a big, big issue, though.
Oh, it's so bad. It's so bad.
They should just do – you know what they should do they should do the old coach's trick of you know what we don't have any more starters uh every position up for grabs when you just say that it sounds like you're trying something bring in the cincinnati basketball team who are they i just like they're usually oh this university yeah the university of cincinnati basketball team bring them in for open tryouts always tough as fuck yeah they always say they can't shoot and they rebound. Yeah, you got a football team out there.
Yeah, just bring them in and just do that. That's the old college coach would be like, open tryouts.
We want the basketball team to come in and try to play some football or other way around. Get Mick Cronin back there for just a little bit to coach your defense.
Yeah. Show me some effort.
They are bad. They are bad and the Ravens are good.
Anything else? Yeah, my brain broke for a second there i apologize to everyone got hit by lightning yeah i got hit by lightning uh i still can't get over that hold and that snap yeah so every time never had a chance every time i see something like that happen in a game i think about the position of being the holder to me that seems like it's one of the hardest things to do but they're really really good at it at a high level so you don't really hear about fucked up snaps and holds that much right and when you do it's a massive thing like tony romo but it feels like getting that snap and putting it down within like a quarter of a second and spinning the ball is a lot harder than we think that it is yeah it takes now actually you know what i'm sounding like it i'm sounding like a loser right now i could do that job i'm built different i could do that job it's the easiest thing you catch the ball you put it down how hard is that it was funny in the gambling cave people were uh had the bengals and there was some blame going around for the holder wearing a wedding ring uh yeah i'll listen to that we're like why the fuck does he have a wedding ring on? That had to have affected it.
You want eligible bachelors as your holder.
Yeah.
I also kind of like my holders wearing receiving gloves.
Yeah.
I don't mind that.
Not a wedding ring.
Yeah, not a wedding ring.
Since winter punters married.
I don't know.
If you're a Bengals fan, it has to feel so weird having such an explosive offense
and a team that has been in this hole before. So you have to tell yourself it's going to be okay, even though it might not be okay this year.
So if you're a Bengals fan, I'll give you a couple silver linings in all this. One, you'd much rather have an explosive offense and a terrible defense than have a terrible offense and a great defense.
Correct. It's way more fun to watch.
Yep. Two, you're probably an Ohio State fan, so that's fun.
Yep. You get to have a good Saturday.
Big game against Oregon. Have a great Saturday.
And then three, you're not the Browns. You could be a Browns fan.
Yeah, that's true. And four, Kentucky basketball is back, maybe.
Yeah. These are all big things.
You have to look at all the nice things that go along with Cincinnati. You got Coach Cal fired.
It is bad, though, for the Bengals. This game specifically, losing this to the Ravens, because you obviously, the way the NFL schedule goes, you play another division, and you play the first-place schedule, the last-place schedule.
The Ravens beat the bills and the Bengals lost the Patriots.
That's a,
that's a tough swing for their AFC East opponents.
That is.
Yeah.
It's not good.
Yeah.
So that,
that's where it's like,
God damn,
you can't have those.
I don't think,
I don't think the Bengals are going to make the playoffs,
but I do think that there'll be sniffing around.
They'll be in that graphic.
I'll say it.
They're going to make the playoffs.
Fuck it. All right.
I might, I might try to bet itraftKings. Make the playoffs.
Let's look it up real quick. Let's figure it out.
I mean, if you do it, I have to do it because I am addicted to still thinking. Yeah.
They'll figure something out on defense. You know what? Why don't we just bet them to win the Super Bowl? Soupy? You're thinking Soupy? What are the odds? So quick of they're dead.
Probably pretty tasty. To now, we're value hunters this is like they're 30 to 1 this is like buying penny stocks they're 30 to 1 why not this is yeah i might have to do it i might have to say fuck it we're gonna well because what's it even the bang what are their next games here they're going they're playing the giants and the browns win both.
They should win both those. Although the Giants are feisty.
Now, do you think the bookmakers are smart enough to also know what their future schedule is? I think they probably took a look at it. Yeah, they probably took a look at it.
Okay, let's go to the next game. Texans 23, Bills 20.
Another great witching hour game. It was all Texans to start.
Then Nico Collins got hurt, and their offense basically lost all of its explosiveness. They scored 14 points in the first quarter, nine points in the last three.
Josh Allen was bad. It was probably his worst game he's had in a long time.
I think it might have been his worst game ever. Rookie year, he had that were real bad but he was yeah like it was what he completed nine passes i think yeah nine for 39 for 30 and it there has to be his worst completion percentage of all time i might i it's hard to get worse than that it is hard to get worse than that but i remember his his rookie season was a lot of this guy is uh really bad people were were shitting him.
He was bad, though, and it's now a two-game stretch of being bad that has the Bills questioning, did they make a mistake? Was it really addition by subtraction getting rid of Stephon Diggs? Because it feels like the Bills don't have any, especially with Shakir Hurt, the Bills don't have anyone who is getting open routinely, and Josh is not finding any rhythm, and he's been missing guys as well. And their offense just, when they've stepped up in class, because their first three games weren't against the best opponents, they've stepped up, played the Ravens, played the Texans, two of the best AFC teams, and did not look good.
Yeah, I think I've found maybe a problem with C.J. Stroud.
Okay. I think he hits his guys on explosive long touchdowns so frequently that he injures them.
Yeah. Because they're burning guys with their deep speed.
They're making these catches. They're sprinting in the end zone trying to get away from the last cornerback, and then they get an injury like a hamstring.
Yeah.j maybe maybe stop being so good yeah you're being you're too good you got to check down more often cj you're too good uh josh allen did have a six for 15 game his rookie year and then he also had an eight completion game his rookie year but either way really bad game from josh allen maybe the bill's got to get back to like letting josh do design runs there was ground and pound they did have one sets they did have one that look well that's the other thing is dalton kincaid like we have two tight ends that i keep we've heard so much about in this in the nfl kyle pitts and dalton kincaid i feel like i'm just waiting for them to to do some cool shit yeah just go go heavy go heavy sets if you're the billsills. They can run the ball.
James Cook is awesome. But their offense looked so bad today outside of Keon Coleman's huge broken play kind of touchdown.
And the only thing that kept them in the game was the Texans just kept on trying to give them the game. There was a pick.
There was a fourth and one that they didn't convert. And then you get to the end of the game where people are going to go after Sean McDermott for his play calling.
So it was – I don't really know. I'm still thinking about it, and I don't know if I totally disagree.
You're talking about when they got the ball back pinned deep. They got the ball back with 40 seconds left, tie game on the four-yard line, and the Texans had all three timeouts.
Yeah. So under normal circumstances, you'd say, yeah, run the ball, go to overtime.
The problem is if you run the ball, the Texans are going to use all three of their timeouts, and if you're not running it trying to get a first down, you're just trying to run out the clock, they're going to have a chance to kick a field goal, which they ended up doing. Sean McDermott decided to pass the ball three times, which I don't hate the idea, but given how their passing game was working, it felt like it was a losing proposition.
Yeah, so if they had tried to run the ball three times, you burn it into three timeouts, they punt, they probably, the Texans get the ball back with, what, like 25 seconds left? Yeah. Certainly enough time to make a few yards around midfield probably.
Yep. And then that's definitely enough time to make a few yards and kick that same field goal that they ended up kicking.
Yes. So, yeah, at the time I wasn't, I guess I was a little confused when they ran it on first and second down.
But then I started thinking about it. You mean passed.
Oh, yeah, we passed. But then I'm like, yeah, this is a no-win situation.
And McDermott took blame for it afterwards. He's like, yeah, that was my call, kind of a shitty position I was in, but I'll take responsibility for that.
Well, yeah, you should take responsibility because you're the coach. But I don't think it was like a big colossal fuck-up.
I thought it was a fuck-up just because I thought they were going to get safetied. Just go play action.
They think you're going to run it. Yeah, I don't know.
I guess running it and then making them burn all three of their timeouts. But the other problem is Kymie Fairbairn is incredible.
He now has eight 50-plus yard field goals, and it's been five weeks. He has eight 50-plus yard field goals, and it's been five weeks.
That's the most ever through five weeks. It also – there's only four kickers last year in the entire season who had eight 50-plus-yard field goals.
It's crazy. It was a 59-yarder to win the game.
And it cleared it by – it looked like it was close to 10 yards. It landed – I think it hit the net.
Yeah. I think maybe even a fan might have caught it.
Yeah. It was incredible.
So, yeah, you're kind of stuck there. I think I'd probably lean running the ball and trying to make them burn their timeouts and maybe you can break one with James Cook.
Because, again, it's not as much... Like, the idea of passing to try to be aggressive and get a first down so you can go to overtime, I get.
But the way the Bills' offense looked passing the ball was so bad
that you have to think that you have a better chance
of getting a first down running the ball in that situation than passing.
And good news for the Texans, you didn't commit a single penalty,
I think, in the first half after we had Laramie Tunsil on watch
for most holding penalties ever.
I don't think he had a holding penalty today.
I don't know either.
I tried to bet on it.
You can't bet on penalties, but I figured he'd have a penalty, but maybe he didn't. What were you going to say, Max? Nothing.
You're just leaning towards the microphone. I thought you were going to say something.
No, I'm trying to, yeah. Here's the crazy thing about the Texans.
I don't think the Texans have played their best game and they're 4-1 and look, for real. For real, for real.
Like, they haven't. Today was a perfect example.
First quarter, lights out. Like holy shit.
This is going to be the Texans day. They're going to dominate them.
Nico Collins gets hurt. Their offense kind of sputters.
Like they haven't. It doesn't feel like they put together a full four quarters yet.
And they're four and one. And they are.
Like it feels like they can just keep going up and up from here. Yeah.
This is a big step too. I think for CJ for C.J.
Stroud. The Bills, I don't think, are a bad team at all.
I think that they've got some question marks, but being able to hold them off in the fourth quarter as they mounted a comeback, I think those wins and the win that he had against a not-so-great team, the Jaguars, he's not just blowing teams out. He's doing it in weird ways where he has to kind of engineer victories.
Yes. Yes.
So, yeah, I'm high on the Texans. And I guess if you're a Bills fan, I think the best thing you can do is say, well, we just played the Ravens and the Texans, who are two of the top three teams in the AFC.
So maybe we're not one of the top teams in the AFC, but you also have to put perspective that they're still a playoff team. Right.
So next week when it's going to be Bills and Jets, it's too easy to say loser leaves town, but it's like loser. Loser feels really bad leaving town.
Loser, go get your passport. Where's the game? Where's the game, memes? MetLife.
MetLife. Whose line is it anyway? Brought to you by DraftKings.
I'm going to pull it up.
I'm going to say it is Bills minus two and a half.
Can you pull it up?
My phone's dead.
Your phone's dead?
Yeah.
How's your phone dead?
How's your phone dead?
I don't know.
I just died.
It's Sunday.
You got to always be on top of it.
I've been here all day.
What are you going to watch on there?
That's something that's... You can't have your phone die.
I'm going to say Jets minus two. Ooh.
PFT was right. Oh.
Bills. What is it? Bills minus two and a half.
Let's go. All right.
So then... Over, under.
I got to take the Jets, I guess. The Jets are wearing their throwback jerseys.
Are those good or bad? No. Oh, fuck you, dude.
You know what ones I'm talking about. That was a real fuck you, dude.
Oh, man, was that a real fuck you, dude. It is the Mark Sanchez, Chad Pennington, Vinny Tessaverde ones.
Oh, boy. A lot of good memories.
I love those. Two AFC Championship games.
Yeah, exactly. Let me see them.
They should have never changed. Let me see the throwback jerseys.
They're shiny, right? Those are the shiny green ones. The Jets are...
Yeah, look how shiny those jerseys are. You know there are certain people that if you close your eyes, you can't remember if they have a mustache or if they wear glasses or something.
We were like, I think they have a mustache, but I'm not sure. That's kind of the Jets' jerse if you asked me to to remember their throwbacks like i think i remember them it's weird because i because i think you and i are old enough to see these jerseys and then remember when they would wear their throwbacks yeah right which are way more similar to their jerseys now right well their jerseys now are the throwbacks oh okay yeah see all right so that makes sense so they're wearing their they're not wearing their throwbacks they're wearing their new jerseys this is are the throwbacks.
Oh, okay. Yeah, see? All right, so that makes sense.
So they're wearing their... They're wearing their New Jersey's.
So they're not wearing their throwbacks? They're wearing their New Jersey's. This is throwback.
This is their in-between throwbacks? In-between throwbacks, and we're currently wearing the throwbacks. What were you going to say, Max? These look like their current jerseys.
That's what I'm saying. That's like when you close your eyes, you're like, wait, does that person have a mustache? Can't remember.
It's the circle logo. I look at these.
I'm like, oh, yeah, those are the Jets jerseys. What are the current Jets jerseys? Yeah, these are the most uninspiring throwbacks.
What do you mean? Because I wouldn't know. If you had not said anything, I would have been like, those are just the Jets jerseys.
See, it's like a... Is it the circle in the helmet? That's what it is? That's the current.
But those are the throwbacks. The current are the throwbacks.
The ones that they're wearing this year are their throwbacks to before they had their throwback jerseys. Right.
So they're wearing their... Next week, they're not wearing throwbacks.
They're wearing their new jerseys. It is a throwback.
No, it's their new jerseys. They look like the same jerseys, just the lines on the sleeves are a little different.
No, memes, you're not getting it. Their jerseys that they have right now are their throwback jerseys.
The ones that they wore in the mid-2000s to late-2000s, those are their new jerseys. So they're going to be wearing their new jerseys in New Jersey.
Yes.
These are their new jerseys that they're wearing on Monday,
not their throwbacks,
because they wear their throwbacks as their regular jerseys.
I mean, they technically will be new jerseys.
Yes, where MetLife is.
Right.
This was also the best week of jerseys of the year.
Oh.
All around the week. Bengals, we didn't even talk about the Bengals pants today were awesome.
Yeah, the Broncos.
The Broncos should never wear anything else.
That's, yeah.
Yeah.
I saw Bo Nix go out in pregame warm-ups, and I was like,
he looks so much like John Elway that I think he's going to think that he is John Elway.
Yeah.
I saw him in warm-ups, and I was like,
this guy, I'm going to have to wait a half, but then he's going to arrive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what I thought.
Okay, a timeless tradition lives on the classic. That's not the classic.
You're wearing the classic. This is a classic.
It's not. No.
Did you just point that out? Because you want. Just because it says the word classic.
You were like, look, it says classic. No.
And feeling nostalgic. No.
You don't feel. I guess you feel nostalgic all the time.
What was Joe Namath wearing? The ones they're wearing now, I think. When you look at that, the font that they have on classic is a classic font, but when you compare it to the jersey, it doesn't match the jersey at all.
The jersey's new and futuristic. Now, those are classics.
Yeah, and that's their jersey that they're wearing now. Oh, has a circle I'm now confused Kind of like a hybrid Yeah this fully Max you raised your hand No that was like a What was What are we doing Just I don't know We're just We're doing the show No no no That would be like What are the Jets doing They just have the same jersey Every time It's just different iterations Of the same jersey Can just show us? Can you Google the history of the Jets jerseys? Oh, yeah.
Give me a timeline. I think the New York Sacks.
Well, the most recent ones before now were trash. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those were trash. It was the worst.
Oh, yeah. When they tried to do the black and green ones that were super shiny helmets.
Along with Adam Gase, and they lost every single fucking year. Unlike all the other Jets years? No, the classics.
Good memories. Okay.
All right. Yeah, the Jets have just had the same jersey.
Yeah. From 1965, that's the same jersey.
It's the same uniform. Like the only helmet that's...
And the 1960 ones were the ugly ones I was talking about. Yeah.
The blue ones, right? Yeah. Yeah.
All right, so throwback night. Throwback night.
Well, is it? No. It's classic.
Are the Bills wearing their throwbacks? They should. That would be cool.
They have some good throwbacks. I feel like they wear them every week now, though.
These ones sucked. Yeah, those ones did suck.
Those ones were bad. They were the only ones that were different.
They tried to switch it up, and then they sucked. They sucked even harder, yeah.
So then we need to go back to we got to run the football with just the same jersey. That's not even that big of a change, though.
That's like we're just going to make the shoulders look like 20% sleeker. This is good Jersey talk.
All right. So Texans are really good and bills might have some problems.
Yep. All right.
Next up commanders, 34 Browns, 13 PFT. Yeah.
I said on, on Friday show that if we won this game, I am going to say some reckless shit shit then i saw that we're playing the ravens and i feel like that's my reckless shit game yeah like if we beat the ravens i will get so abnormally reckless with it that nobody will want to listen to the show ever again um i can say what i was going to say well i'll save it for the ravens okay i'll save the Ravens. Yeah, so you don't want to...
I think we should talk...
Give us one thing.
Don't say all of them because you want to save some of it.
And you're not saying this.
No, he's not.
I'll leave out one word.
Okay.
Okay.
I think that Jaden Daniels is the blank best quarterback in the NFL.
There's a word.
There's a word that's missing there.
Blank best quarterback in the NFL? He is the blank best quarterback in the NFL. Unanimous.
Eighth. No, it's not eighth.
That's why I'm not saying it, because it's not eighth. Second.
It's not second, no. Undisputed.
First? No, undisputed. Third.
No. It's around.
Fifth. I think it's third.
Eighteen. It's right in between what Big Cat and Max said.
Fourth. Fourth.
Here's the thing with Jaden Daniels today. He finally didn't have like a – like his last three games were basically perfect football.
He didn't have a perfect football game, but he still made just awesome big-time throws, and third down he just completely befuddles defenses. And he wasn't really doing it as much with his legs.
He had good numbers rushing in the other games, but in this game it's like he got out of the pocket, scrambled, had a bunch of chunk plays with his feet. He didn't have his best game with his arm.
He had that bad interception in the first half. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
It's almost better that he – obviously you want to be perfect all the time, but in the back of head, you're like, he can't be perfect every single game. So having a game where he wasn't perfect but still really fucking good has to be comforting.
And I think his whole stat line looks a lot better if Terry gets into the end zone on that first bomb that he threw. That was incredible where he just sprints away from the pressure and uncorks one.
It was like a Josh Allen type play. Then he had that great touchdown pass to Brown at the end yeah johnny brown that was a sick throw it was a sick throw uh yeah i i'm still not sold on the warthog as being his nickname i tried it out once today yeah not che had to point out he doesn't have any warts that we know that we know that we know that we know i don't know what his full medical panel says um but the warthog i'm struggling to come up with that one i i tried out jesus okay jesus christ maybe that's a little too confusing it might be a little confusing but it was uh it was mostly today it was about the defense what about what about his name just being cool yeah jayden jayden jayden jayden daniels is just a cool name it is a cool name like i don't think you even need to do a nickname for him.
So the defense the last two weeks has looked good. Now it's against the Cardinals, who I don't think are that bad offensively.
I think that they're okay. When they can't run the ball, they're very bad.
And then when they can run the ball, they look good. But you guys get credit for stopping their run.
Yes. Right.
get i will get way out of pocket if we happen to beat the ravens next sunday which is not going to be flexed it's going to be i think in the noon slate so i don't think they flexed till later anyway no they wanted to flex it cbs protected it cbs to camby swatted them i did see um florio they were they were trying to basically burn time during the weather delay and flor Florio did a weird FaceTime interview with Jaden Daniels and was like, have you heard people chanting MVP yet? And Jaden Daniels was like, no, I have not, because he's a humble guy. Yeah.
And Florio basically was like, get ready to learn MVP, buddy. I don't like that.
Florio, stay far away from my quarterback. Hey, Florio.
Itio stick to aaron rogers buddy yeah he was stay in your lane uh but yeah the the dan quinn defense is starting to round into shape uh the browns were one of 13 on third down until garbage time deshaun watson has to be benched there was a moment in this game where i was like holy fuck how is this guy still playing and that was I think it was like fourth and short maybe fourth and three fourth and four and uh Stefanski was looking out on the field like calling in the plate like we're gonna do this we're going for it Deshaun just started walking off the field and Stefanski just put his head down was like what the fuck going on? He doesn't want to go for a fourth down. Jameis Winston, say what you want about Jameis, but there has never been a fourth down that Jameis did not have to be dragged off the field.
Competitor. He wants to stay on the field.
Deshaun's teammates look like they're fed up with it too. Yep.
I don't think it's Stefanski's call at this point. No.
I feel like it's probably above his head because he wasn't the guy that wanted Deshaun Watson there in the first place. He didn't make that trade go through, that sign-and-trade.
I think that's probably the owner. I think that's probably where he's either not allowed.
Two theories. One, Stefanski's either not allowed to take Deshaun out because the owner says says not to or two Stefanski is so mad at the owner for making him take Deshaun he's like no you want Deshaun we're going to keep giving you Deshaun so you can see how wrong you were it's um the Browns are so unbelievably fucked that's really the only way to explain it because Deshaun is so bad.
I think even, I think Deshaun's so bad, even like the last bit of Deshaun
defender. That's really the only way to explain it because Deshaun is so bad.
I think even I think Deshaun's so bad, even like the last bit of Deshaun defenders being like, oh, the offensive line. Oh, this.
No, he's just bad. He holds on to the ball so long.
He takes sacks all the time. He gets lost.
He gets lost. He get like he misses throws.
He's a bummer. Then he gets in front of the, like, I don't know if you guys saw his postgame press conference,
but he's like, yeah, we just got to keep taking what the defense gives us.
What?
You haven't done that once.
Yeah.
The defense, there was no taking involved.
No.
So.
You just stink at football.
There was a tweet from Benjamin Solak.
He said, I'm confident I can name a hundred active NFL quarterbacks, XFL quarterbacks,
college quarterbacks, and retired quarterbacks who would be better at quarterbacking the Cleveland Browns than Deshaun Watson is right now. A hundred.
I think that we should just try to name the worst quarterback that you think would be better on the Browns right now than Deshaun Watson. I have a name and it's, it's disgusting when I, Peterman, definitely, definitely would be better.
Yep. Um, you don't think josh rosen would be better no i don't think i think that's probably where he might be business school one of the first ones off i think i think that name for me is desmond ritter i think desmond ritter would be better tim boyle yeah gets the ball out on time.
It's any other... Yates of hell? Oh, Field Yates.
Yeah, for sure. I mean, not Field Yates.
TJ Yates would fucking dominate. Yeah, Field Yates.
Also Field Yates might too. Yeah.
He could be better than Deshaun Mo... I'll tell you what.
Tyler Murray in him? Oh, his shoulder's fucked up. The guys would like him more.
Yeah. That's a fact.
Like, that's part of it.
It's just crazy the Browns are in this situation where they're so unbelievably fucked because if any other quarterback was playing like this, he would have been benched.
And they aren't going to bench him.
And it's crazy because, like you said, the owner's probably putting pressure on Stefanski.
Stefanski's in the worst spot ever.
He's a really good coach, and he's just stuck. There's a big enough body of evidence out there for Stefanski to say that he's in the worst spot ever.
He's a really good coach, and he's just stuck.
There's a big enough body of evidence out there for Stefanski to say that he's a much
better coach than this.
Yeah.
They were a playoff team last year with Joe Flacco.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
How many of the names on the back of that sad Browns jersey, how many of those names
do you think would be better than Deshaun Watson?
Let's assume at the peak of their powers.
Okay.
All right.
Maybe the average of their career.
I'm going to go back to the next one. How many of those names do you think would be better than Deshaun Watson? Let's assume at the peak of their powers.
Okay.
Or maybe the average of their career.
Okay.
Johnny Football?
Johnny Football I'd take.
I'd take him. Oh, man.
This is a –
Hank, who's the worst quarterback?
All right.
Ty Detmer, Spurgeon Wynn.
Doug Peterson's on there.
Is he really?
Yeah. Matt Schaub.
Kelly Holcombcomb Jeff Garcia would definitely be better yeah Trent Dilfer better Charlie Fry better also Kelly Holcomb was not bad no Brock Osweiler Anderson better Ken Dorsey better Brady Quinn better I can't read this oh Gasowski way better yep Colt McCoy better Jake DeLone better Seneca Wallace better. Oh, Gasowski way better.
Yep.
Colt McCoy better.
Jake DeLone better.
Seneca Wallace better.
Brandon Whedon.
Maybe.
He had a couple of flashes.
Kevin Hogan.
Yeah,
they're all better.
Brandon Whedon's probably like 70 now.
Yeah,
he was old.
He was old.
Connor Shaw.
Yeah, I remember Connor Shaw. I thought Connor Shaw was South Carolina.
Yeah, South Carolina. I was like was like damn deshaun kaiser maybe that's it sean kaiser yeah hoyer uh kaiser is probably yeah kaiser's probably i would say kaiser josh rosen not as good as deshaun watson it's so bad it's so bad it's so bad that terry bradshaw uh said on on fox during one of the game breaks that he would put deshaun Watson down.
Yeah. Put him down.
Now, he a little bit misspoke there because Howie Long was like, do you mean take him out, like bench him? He's like, yeah, I meant bench him. But putting him down was, it didn't sound crazy when it came out of his mouth.
Bring the tarp out onto the field. Yeah, I think that Howie saved him.
I think that Terry meant, yeah, just like, you know, he's an old dog. Just put him down.
He's a dog. He's an old dog.
Yeah, the Browns. Yeah, and also we saw that picture with Mike Vick and Jaden Daniels this week.
Yeah. What does the rest of Deshaun Watson's life look like? Let's see.
Like, does he just go into hiding? I don't know. Might buy an island somewhere in the Caribbean.
Yeah. What do you do? You think Deshaun went to any ditty parties? I don't know.
I think the Browns probably were hoping. Yeah, it'd be good.
It'd be good for your bottom line. If they could figure out a way to implicate him.
Do we have our Johnny Fanta video? One of my favorite. This one's got to be a doozy.
So we don't watch these until, I think it was like three minutes, which that's fine with me because I love Fanta. But he's got to be at the end of his rope here.
Oh, he's got the Halloween set up in the background. I bet Fanta goes all out at Halloween.
He definitely gives out full-size candy bars. He's got the sickest front lawn decorations.
Yep. Okay.
Guys, I've got to tell you about the best way to spend your Sunday afternoon. Oh, we didn't watch it.
It's called the Circus of Insanity. This is a brand new autumn activity in which you can spend 100 minutes on a Sunday afternoon watching someone try to do the same thing over and over again, believing that it may change one of these Sundays.
Even against the National Football League's worst pass defense. Yes, worst pass defense in which for a half of football, not 70 yards were amassed.
When will it end? If it hasn't ended now, It shouldn't end. Because at the end of the day, professionals or not, you all have jobs out there.
You've worked on a project with other classmates. or surely you've done something with your family, which everybody has to participate.
And you know if there's someone on your team or your group that you simply can't count on.
Sure, there's a lot of people in the cleveland browns organization right now in fact everybody everybody except the punter but horcus doesn't deserve to get looped into this oh everybody deserves some level of blame but this is a quarterback league and if you don't have an answer at that position you're're not going to do anything productive in the NFL. Especially when the other team that you're playing has capable quarterback play.
You could sit here and blame the defense. They came ready to play.
They came out and got a couple of stops. They came out with energy.
They got an interception at the goal line. They tried to open your window of opportunity a little bit more.
And instead your offense steps on the field it is dark storm clouds why because the quarterback can't play he doesn't have it anymore and the browns won't rip the band-aid off and if we can all realize it all the people in that locker room realize and know it. Okay?
I'm not that smart.
And it doesn't take someone smart to know that what the Browns have is a guy that's supposed to be a leader. A quarterback is supposed to be a leader of a football team.
And what that guy has done is totally, totally dissipate, shred away all of the momentum that you had 267 days ago when you were in a playoff game. In less than 270 days, your Cleveland Browns have gone from a playoff team with a loaded, talented roster to back to being the pumpkin of the NFL.
We brought it all together. The pumpkin of the NFL.
We're back to being the joke. And all you can do is laugh.
I'm past being ticked. I'm just chuckling.
Enjoy your Sunday. Maybe find a pumpkin patch.
Thanks, Johnny. Done.
He's past being ticked. He's just chuckling.
Yeah, all you got to do is laugh. And it's sad if you're a Browns fan.
There's no hope this season as long as he's the quarterback. There's just none.
And he's, yeah, man. Don't even bring Chubb back.
Let Chubb heal up entirely. It's crazy that the Browns felt like they were going in the right direction there for a second and now they're just and it's it sucks even more that like the Lions have figured it out and you thought what what like four years ago five years ago if you said who's gonna be in a Super Bowl first the Browns or the Lions like Browns all day now it's just it's just sad even a couple years ago the Browns it was nice, the Browns or the Lions? Like, Browns all day.
Now it's just sad. Even a couple years ago, the Browns.
It was nice seeing the Browns and the Lions come up together. I know.
And then, yeah. They just went right back to the slums.
The Browns couldn't get out of their own way. Yeah.
PFT, if the playoffs ended today, you would be the number two seed in the NFC. That's wild.
That's pretty cool. It's crazy to think about.
I yoffs i am you have to i'm i'm i'm four and one four and one this season honestly couldn't go any better for me i i'm so happy the weird sad part about as you know like we talk about the lions and the browns these are two franchises that have been beaten down into shit over the last 30 years or so um i have almost imposter imposter syndrome for having a good quarterback so i i wake up in the morning i refuse to believe like this can't be happening something bad is going to happen uh chaps the other day was telling me like hey congrats on jayden and i feel guilty i feel like i have to be like uh you had a good quarterback too yeah i have to like lie and be like yeah no it's it's not that great like i'm not having that much fun no i'm having the fucking best time ever and i'm not sad about it uh but i do have this like lingering guilt in the back of my head where when i hear from fans of other teams that are like i'm happy that you're finally tasting joy i'm like i can't i can't think of it that way because i know exactly what it's like to be stuck in a shithole. And I feel bad for people that have to deal with that situation because I've lived through it for so long.
And I'm reaching a point where, number one, it's awesome to watch Jaden play on. He brings me so much happiness in my life just watching him play out there.
But also, every single time somebody hits him or when he runs out of bounds, I scared i think what the fuck no not again and there was a moment today where i had some very very dark thoughts for about half a second when he ran out of bounds his knee jiggled a little bit and then he reached and he grabbed his leg as he did like a somersault on the sidelines and my life flashed before my eyes and i was like this is this is, this is the worst, my worst fears coming to fruition right now. So I am like, I'm, I'm dealing with, I'm learning how to enjoy having a good quarterback.
You got to block that out. And I don't know.
You're going to just end up being like someone who doesn't go out of their house. Cause they're scared.
They're getting hit by a bus. I'll be agoraphobic.
Yeah. Yeah.
You can't live like that. I'm trying not to, and I'm working on it.
I'm working very hard. But, yeah, it was another fun Sunday for me.
I mean, he makes me so happy. Yeah.
Four and one. He's my special guy.
Second seat overall in the NFC right now. Top of the NFC East.
It's awesome. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm loving it.
Things have gotten. I am starting to also recognize there are red flags that should be going up when you're enjoying something too much, because I did surpass one of those.
When you buy an alternate jersey for one of your third-string players, I reached that point in Jaden's career arc today with Luke McCaffrey. Okay.
I got an Arctic camo Luke McCaffrey jersey. But you had to buy that.
But I think that's going to be sad hands were tied i think that's going to stand up you see that jersey you have to buy you have to get they make that they when they sit in the nfl shop they basically make that because they're like at least we'll sell one yeah i i want to see a breakdown on the nfl like on fanatics or on the nfl official site where it shows um like what percentage of their worst pieces of merch get purchased by me yeah because sometimes i think they put things up there just for me to buy oh yeah definitely and you try to get you try to buy it for us i might be wearing one of them right now actually now that i'm looking at it yeah you absolutely are um all right uh let's take a break uh and we'll get some more games all protein bars generally taste the same not one bars. One made protein bars are actually delicious with Reese's and Hershey's.
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Okay, next up, we've got Jaguars 37, Colts 34. Another Sunday thriller.
First of all, happy birthday to Trevor Lawrence. It was his birthday today.
Yeah, I was upset that we didn't know that going into it. Well, so I thought the Jaguars would win this game because, like I said, I thought it was Trevor Lawrence's slump buster with Gus Bradley's defense that he knows well.
He did play well. It feels like he got out of his slump.
He had 371 yards and two TDs. Also, Doug Peterson, we've talked about his quotes, and he's basically like just the this is fine dog every single week.
I'll give him credit this week. He said there's a weight off everybody's shoulders.
I bet there is. That's really nice.
Because that was a game that you had to win. They almost jaguarded in the end, but you had to win that game, and they did win that game.
That's really nice, and so now this is 10 years
since the Colts have won
a game in Jacksonville, so there were a few things.
The Colts hadn't won there in forever.
Trevor Lawrence's birthday, and
the Tom Coughlin Ring of Honor. Correct.
This was a star's aligning. What's it called when the
planets all get together?
An eclipse? Yeah, an eclipse.
It was like an eclipse down in Florida.
And they still almost lost this game.
They still almost lost it.
They almost got Flacco'd.
Flacco looked pretty good again today.
And at one point when he took off for the football, he ran faster than anybody on the field.
Flacco ran.
They said, well, here's where I'm staying a little bit woke on the Amazon Next Gen stats or whatever.
Yeah.
They said Joe Flacco ran 18 miles per hour.
Yeah. That's really fast.
Imagine being on a treadmill and you turn it up to 18. Yeah.
That's really, really fast. I don't think he was going 18.
I don't think he was going 18. It also, while it was happening in the moment, it was the same feeling I had, like when my kids took their first step where I was very proud, but also very nervous that there was going to be a really, really horrific accident and like a fall or something was going to happen and we were going to lose Joe Flacco.
So I was like clapping and I was like, wait, get down. Please get down.
I had just never seen this. Yeah.
It's been years. It's probably been like seven years since I've seen Joe take off like that.
For me, it was more like seeing your teacher in the supermarket. Yeah.
It's like, you're not supposed to be doing that. Yeah, what are you doing right now? That's not your game, Joe.
It was the stat hole sent me the stat.
It was the second longest run for the oldest.
So Vince Evans had, I think he was a little bit older.
He had a 23-yard run in 1994 for the Raiders.
So this was the longest run for the oldest player since then.
Since 1994.
Yes. That 1994.
Yes.
That's pretty good.
So, I mean, listen, Kevin Durant put it perfectly.
He said, put Flacco anywhere and he's going to hoop.
He's going to hoop.
That's really what it is.
Joe Flacco is, I don't know how the Browns didn't keep him.
I don't know how other teams didn't call.
I know that you have to put Anthony Richardson back in
because you're hoping that he becomes the future but flacco's the best and it's so much fun watching him and he actually has a ton of weapons and he was spreading the ball everywhere he threw over 300 yards three tds he's just the best so it's so much fun when flacco's playing in flacco's last two games against the jags this one then also last year with the Browns, he's thrown for 670 yards and six touchdowns. As an old man.
Old man Flacco has their number. Old man Flacco.
Representation matters. Good job.
We learned he's an 85 January baby. Yeah, 39.
39 years old. The Jaguars, good for you.
Yeah. That's the best thing I can say.
It's good for you. Defense didn't look good.
Trevor did enough. But good for you getting a win.
Yeah. Good for you.
Can we do that thing now where we show the circle of parity in the NFL where every team has like a link? Oh, no, because I guess we've got undefeated teams. So we can't do the circle of parity just yet.
Where it's like this team beat that team, we beat that team, and then you make your way all the way through the league, and you're like, wow, that's wild. Yeah.
And he fell as king. Yeah.
He's, yeah, we finally popped the champagne. Not yet for that, because you have to wait for the Chiefs and the Vikings to lose.
Oh, no, I was just saying, pop the champagne for the Lions and the Browns defeated teams. Yes, yes.
Or I guess it would be like a Schlitz or something. They're going to go undefeated? Yeah.
Crack open the Mad Dogs. They get to keep it.
They get to keep it. The Jaguars have won a game.
Yeah, I was happy the Jaguars won a game. It feels like the locker room needed that.
As for the Colts, it is kind of a tough thing because they do have to go back to Anthony Richardson, but Joe Flacco is still got it. The guy still fucking got it.
You've got to say that Flacco gives you your best chance. Yeah.
But then you have to go back to Anthony Richardson. Right, because you're not.
Or if he gives us our best future chance. Right, and also you spent, oh, what, a fourth pick overall.
You can't be like, oh, no, we're not going to play you because Joe Flacco gives us our best chance. You're not a Super Bowl aspiration team.
You're a team where if Anthony Richardson becomes what you hope he becomes, then you're a Super Bowl aspiration team, so you have to keep him. And also you have to pay him $100,000 for every win.
So there's that. Joe Flacco, yes.
That's true. Jim Irsay looks at that and he's like, I could pay Joe Flacco or I could buy one of Willie Nelson's harmonicas.
Yeah. So I think I'd rather have the harp.
Tough choice. Yeah, good job, Jaguars.
You won a football game on Tom Coughlin Day. Pretty good.
Now you're going for your extended stay in London. Are they playing back-to-back? I think they are.
Pretty much a home game for the Jaguars. Yeah.
So the Bears play them next week, but then I think they stay for two weeks, which that's got to suck. There's no way the guys like that.
I would almost rather stay there for two weeks than just go over and then come right back. Yeah, true.
I guess that's true. But it's still like every year you're like, all right, now we've got to go to London for two straight games.
Oh, no, maybe they aren't. Oh, no, they are.
Yep, they're playing the Bears and then the Patriots. What are their travel plans? Are they going over there early in the week? The Jaguars have to have the travel plans to England locked down locked down perfectly they have to have this point there's no excuse yeah get on shod khan's yacht and seal across the atlantic there's no excuse for them not to just have it perfected for how much they go play there but then again it's the jaguars it is the jaguars but jaguars won and trevor lawrence birthday that would have been the worst birthday ever if he just continued to suck.
Yeah. Yeah, that would be bad.
That would be really bad. How old is he? 25? Trevor Lawrence.
I'm guessing 25. Drafted 2021.
There also were multiple times during this game that – yeah, he's 25 years old – that Chaps, our good friend who's a Jaguars fan, just kept on saying that's Jaguars football and it was always for the worst things yep so it's just like he kept on saying the Jaguars also were some sick throwbacks today yeah real throwbacks I like those are real actual pre-bortles throwbacks yes yeah yeah real throwbacks uh all right next up uh Bears 36 Panthers 10 that was a really fun game I don't know what else to say that was Caleb looked awesome The Bears defense continues to be really good. I'll say something nice about Matt Eberflus.
The Bears have allowed 21 or fewer points in 10 straight games, which is the longest streak in the NFL. And, yeah, this was the – obviously people were like, well, it's the Panthers.
I don't care. Good teams are supposed to destroy bad teams.
Yeah. That's what the Bears did today.
This was a must win. What do you say, Hank? Did you say something? Oh.
He was awesome. The touchdown throw to DJ Moore was incredible.
He had two touchdowns passing, a touchdown running, and yeah, it was fucking awesome. He looked like he was having fun.
So much fun. I was having fun.
He had a lot of fun. Also, credit to Matt Eberflus.
The Bears are now on a league high. Is it an eight-game home winning streak? Yeah.
That's pretty cool. We keep winning games at home.
We keep winning games at home. Yeah, this isn't, it's not.
Also, he didn't have a touchdown running. I forgot it got called back.
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
But then we ran it in. Because there was that moment after he got in and scored where he spiked it so hard that he fell over.
Yes, yes. We got our celebration caleb threw a couple dots today he looked really good out there and uh yeah big double win for the bears yeah people want so bad for him to suck and i just it i'm not gonna i mean i know they're gonna say panthers i don't care and the panthers the fact the panthers had bryce young in there is just insult to injury at the end of the game i i'm more i'm wondering if we've if any dalton is turned back into a little bit of a pumpkin here.
He might have. I mean, the Bears' defense is very good.
I think he's just Andy Dalton. Yeah.
And we had no negative plays, no interceptions. I think Caleb only had one sack when he had some time.
Shane Waldron also, he's actually calling some good plays. We're learning how to run the ball in a heavy set on goal line after the debacle in Indianapolis two weeks ago.
I said this was a must win going in, and it was a laugher. It was nice to have a laugher.
I feel like the players confronting Shane Waldron actually did some damage. Yes.
He was like, okay, I get it. I'm sorry.
That's the thing. It's like I know the limitations of this team, offensive line, the play calling has been suspect at times.
As long as they keep getting a little bit better and it looks like they're not just like, well, we are what we are. I'm happy and kill Williams has gotten better every single week of the season.
Everyone's going to yuck my yum. I don't care.
I'm as happy as I could be. You fucking looked awesome.
DeAndre Swift looked good. I do have one question for a person in this show.
Okay. It could be anyone.
Yeah, it's a draft question about the Bears and a player that was taken by another team. Okay, it could be anybody.
Are we ready to have the conversation that Gravon Dexter's better than Jalen Carter? Are we ready to have that conversation? I don't know who that is. Okay.
Well, he has significantly better stats than Jalen Carter. I'm just wondering if you want to have that conversation now or want to wait.
We have no edge rushers. Okay.
He gets doubled on every play. All right.
So, you know what? We'll save the conversation. Jalen Carter gets doubled on every play.
We'll save the conversation. Max, your answer is no.
We're not ready to have that conversation.
You're not ready to have that conversation.
That's fine.
The Bears' defense has been monstrous, and Dexter has been a monster.
But we are not ready to have that conversation.
We should have it at some point, but we don't have to have it right now.
Just say Phillies.
I'm looking at Nick Cassianos on the TV right now. So you don't want to have this conversation.
Look at Nick Cassianos. He's got in the water.
Because it would be a shame if our second round pick from that draft was better than the guy that you try to sometimes say that we passed up. When's the last time I said that? That's you projecting.
When's the last time I said that? When's the last time I said that? Probably recently. I haven't said that in a year.
Year. I think you sometimes look at me when you say Jalen Carter's so good, and then you look at me.
You give me a look. Well, let's just learn who Dexter is, and then we can have the conversation.
Okay. Just say Phillies, Max.
I'm looking at Bryce Harper. There we go.
I'm just kidding. Jalen Carter does get double teamed a lot.
I do not think that Dexter's just been really good. I just wanted to shout him out.
The Bears, as opposed to what we know about the Jaguars, the Bears are all over the travel schedule next week. Yes.
They're leaving tomorrow. Yes.
Getting a full week. Getting acclimated to that clock.
Bears know about sleep schedules. Yeah.
Smart move. Also, shout out to DJ Moore.
And have a new take on dj moore i think he's just a little bit of a loner he might be a loner he also has bad body language when things are he's a bad body language all-star but okay so my good friend uh mark silverman who i do my radio hits with waddle and sylvie he does uh he is part of the broadcast team for the radio and he took a picture of dj moore he scored a touchdown sitting by himself. And he's like, look, everyone's psychoanalyzing what DJ Moore thinks.
He's just kind of a locked-in loner guy on the sideline. Even in a good moment, he's sitting by himself just doing his own thing.
Well, that might be the case. It also might be that he knows that he's not a guy that needs to be around other people when he's not feeling good.
Yeah, but that was a moment where he was feeling great. He had an awesome game.
He tore up the Panthers. Yeah, Caleb had some absolute darts that he threw too.
He was moving around. He also was extending plays like he did at USC.
It looked awesome. I couldn't be happier.
And I know people don't want me to be happy. They don't want anyone to be happy on this show.
That's okay. If we're being honest.
But that's fine. Hank? Big Cat.
You know what? Big Cat, he can't exist. I can't exist.
I want you to be happy. I want the Bears to be good.
Yeah, I know you do. But do you agree people don't want us to be happy? No, that's fine, though.
Yeah, that get it too because i don't want well actually i do want max i want max to be really happy for a little bit yeah and then very happy and then no comment then no comment then no comment then then no cause i want to be happy right now yeah same yeah uh the panthers to just, yeah. Yeah.
If you're David Tepper, just stop going to these games. Because basically you're a giant target for every fan base to yell things at you.
And you want to pour drinks on them. Yeah.
You really want to. And you're going to feel bad if you don't pour drinks on them.
So you're tempting yourself by exposing yourself to all that negativity. Yes.
Just stay home. Yeah.
Don't. Yeah.
Just stop. Don't ever leave your house.
Although Bryce Young was four for seven for 58 yards. Yeah.
Bryce, when he was in, didn't look as bad as he did at the start of the season. It was, yeah, it was garbage time.
The whole second half was garbage time. Like, that was the only, I guess if I only had one critique about the game, it felt like the Bears took their foot off the gas.
They came out three and out, and I was like, God damn it.
And then Chubba Hubbard had that big run.
But then they scored four out of the next five drives touchdowns.
And then in the second half, they're just like, this game is over.
You know what we did this week in Big Cat?
We took care of business.
We took care of business. We took care of business.
I'm serious.
It was bad teams, but you know what? You got to take care of business sometimes. Killing bad teams still counts.
It's the NFL. It's hard to win in this league.
You're never as bad or as good as you think you are. They pay those guys to play, too.
That's what I was saying. All right.
Next up, Dolphins 15, Patriots 10. Yeah.
Ugh. Yeah.
I guess we'll start with the Dolphins. Good job winning a game, running the football.
It looks like that's their new plan. Jalen Wright, who was hyped up, like, oh, the Dolphins got another fast guy.
I think because H.A.N. got hurt.
Jalen Wright was a stud. He had 86 yards on 13 carries, and it looked like the Dolphins were like, hey, let's just try to run the ball instead of playing uh like we usually play where we don't have a quarterback um so good job i also think mike mcdaniel needed this win very badly because i don't know if you guys noticed he has been just like so sad to look at every time they show him he has the biggest frown oh yeah you know he looks he looks
like at the same time depressed and also very confused why it's not working yeah like he doesn't get it yet that's because two is not playing right that's a pretty pretty simple thing to figure out i had an obstructed view for this game because of where the tv situation was this is bottom right i only heard about this game through people yelling at hank to pay attention so Hank can you give me your rundown
that you got also second hand
I was watching. You watched the whole thing? What did you think? Yeah, I was sitting right behind you.
Oh, you watched the whole game? Yeah, he was there. He was there.
I didn't know he was there the whole time. Yeah, he was there the whole time.
Hopefully, he didn't say anything bad. Hank, question for you.
I'm confused, too. He was there the whole time.
Okay. Yeah, he was in the back.
Question for you i'm confused too he was there the whole time okay yeah he was in the back uh question for you i think you got to just put in drake may why why i this makes no sense to me okay well and i first of all there's a patriots fans say that as well i just don't it doesn't make sense did you see the report that there was a potential mutiny in the locker room? That just seems like Boston media going. But this is when you have a guy who's better than the other guy.
That can happen. Like they're looking and they're like, we don't have a chance.
We're not competitive with Jacoby Brissett. But we really we almost won this game.
We did win this game. Jalen Polk was in in the end zone.
feet were inbounds. So you're counting it as a win? I'm counting it as we didn't get blown out.
If we were getting absolutely torched every week, that'd be one thing. Okay, so here's my follow-up.
Why wouldn't you put in Drake May? Injury. Risk.
Injury. Risk.
Okay, so when will your offensive line be better enough to not have the injury risk? next year? That's crazy to me. I don't know why you'd sit him for an entire year.
I mean, you can play him at the end of the season. I guess, but the injury risk would still be there.
What I'm saying, like if you're going to, there's less games to get injured. Got it.
You're minimizing the risk. I kind of agree with Hank that you don't need to put in Drake May because you lose the locker you lose the locker room? Well, you could lose the locker room because the guys that are, like, catching the passes, blocking, running the football, they see a guy that's not that good and they're like, well, this is affecting my paycheck now.
Correct. The fact that we can't do anything.
Well, the guys blocking aren't going to be getting many more paychecks, I don't think. That's a valid point.
That's a good point. That's a valid point.
I just don't know. But as a fan, Hank, I kind of agree with the fact that you don't necessarily need to win games that Drake made this season.
No, you don't. I'm not talking about winning games.
I'm talking about getting Drake May. Wouldn't you rather Drake May play this year, take some of his lumps, learn the NFL game so next year you can hit the ground running? Yeah, then give him three games at the end of the year.
Okay. I know put them in blowouts maybe week five week six because now this is loser talk oh but go on we're not gonna win we're not gonna we're not thinking the offs we're not gonna make the playoffs can't be the best uh at the actual game of football but it's nice to go on a website and see your name at the top of the list do you think so go to the NFL draft order right now.
Number one. Wow, look at how this has changed.
All right, so Hank, tell me about your big board right now. Since you are on the clock, if the season ended today, anything can happen.
Not looking at Tankathon for this season has been so nice. We've just done a Freaky Friday switch.
So who do you want, Hank? You're on the clock. I think you probably got to go with the best player in college football.
Travis Hunter. Yeah, good point.
Yeah, that makes sense. He had a bye week this week, but we don't forget that he is the best player in college football.
That's a good point, Hank. Or, Hank, are you thinking trade? Belichick would trade.
What about Shador? Would you take Shador? No. Why not? We got a QB.
What about a lineman? Why wouldn't you trade? Trading and getting a lineman is definitely an option, too. That's a Belichick move, yeah.
Yeah. You don't want Shador because Shador's kind of a Travis Hunter merchant.
You know? Yeah. Travis Hunter's so good that Shador can't help but be awesome.
But I feel like you get Shador and then you trade Drake May before he starts. If you play him a little bit, yeah.
No, I trust in Drake May. It's a process.
It's a process. We can't, you know, Rome wasn't built in the day starting in week six and him getting smoked.
So when did you find this Tankathon? When did you find out about Tankathon? I just Googled NFL draft order. I don't even know what Tankathon is.
Oh, okay. You gotta go on Tankathon.
Wow. Look at our boy.
He's all grown up. This is Tankathon right here.
Yeah, Tankathon number one. Wow, the Bengals number two.
Oh, no, I am looking. This is the website I was on.
Do we really overrate that week one win for the Patriots? That's crazy. That is kind of nuts that you beat the Bengals and you're one spot ahead of them at one and two for the draft.
Yeah. Yeah, this mock draft.
New England Patriots, Travis Hunter. Wow.
Because he's the best player in college football? Yeah. That would make sense.
It makes sense, yeah. The scouts know.
I don't know what the Dolphins play.
I mean, someone had to win this game, right?
Kind of.
Yeah, technically it was.
You could have tied.
Yeah.
Did you take the over in this game?
No.
Yeah.
That was crazy to think about.
Hank, has the thought crossed your brain that the Patriots have not won a home game since you were the keeper of the light?
Oh, no.
Is that true?
Regular season, yeah.
No, it hasn't.
Has it now?
It has now.
Shit.
Also very funny in this game when the Patriots kicker missed a 33-yard field goal.
It was never even a chance, and Hank just goes,
that's when you should have known he was there.
He's like, it's windy there. And then they showed the replay and the flag would couldn't have been deader just limp flag it was a tough game to watch yeah it was ugly i mean i wasn't i was watching i wasn't i don't know that i was paying attention the whole time yeah where the the stands were full uh according to the app I was looking at before,
it said it was a sellout, 66,000 people.
Wow, good sports time.
There you go.
Hank, have you watched any of the Aaron Hernandez show?
No, just the clips that you've sent.
I have to watch it.
Is it all out?
It's not all out yet, no.
Okay.
So how many episodes? I think we've got, it's on FX, Hulu.
Yeah, I think it's on Hulu. But it comes out like once a week week but i think we're up to like five episodes now how many episodes total don't know when's kirk's episode the last one okay judging by hernandez's timeline i would guess the last episode yeah they're gonna do him dirty they're who hernandez no i think they're gonna do kirk dirty probably yeah so uh it it's one of my favorite shows it's awful it's really really bad but i can't stop watching it because it's so fucking funny how they portray like people that we know the actor they have playing belichick is laugh out loud funny uh the actor they have playing robert craft i think they just got a guy and they said um we're gonna just spray paint your hair white and then we're gonna spray paint.
You sent us that clip. That was incredible.
And the on-field stuff is so funny when they have these actors that don't play football trying to play football. And I'm going to guess that the guy they have playing, Hernandez, who's not a bad actor, but he runs, conservatively speaking, probably like a 5.840, and they have him repeatedly running the 40-yard dash.
It's one of my favorite shows in the world i love it okay so episode six that's the one kirk's in i think i might just watch that one just the last one yeah yeah no you should watch the whole thing because it's kirk for the kirk manhan yeah so he's he's on the imdb he's our colleague and friend and he's going to be in the last episode because uh i think he said that he was a he's a he was he works for barcel now he was a radio host in boston at the time of the hernandez stuff and he had the report that hernandez might be gay and then hernandez uh committed suicide like two days after and so i think what the fx thing is going to do is try to like put it on kirk which will be bullshit but i think they might i yeah i don't know but most of the show is just about how gay he was okay i'd say so then they won't probably not i'd say 60 percent of the show is like hernandez liked to smoke a lot of weed and because he was gay all right i gotta watch it i do love cheesy terrible television yeah it's and they got this dude playing Urban Meyer That is a cartoon character of Urban Meyer They got Arnold Schwarzenegger's son Plays Tim Tebow Who does a great job pretty much the entire time Being like, coach is right Oh man, all right, I'm gonna watch it It's not good I like bad television It's bad, but it's really, really good bad television. Yeah, I love bad television.
I mean, I'm our good friend Rob Lowe and doing the Drew Peterson. Yeah.
You know why they call me Big Daddy? I thought you were saying you're Rob Lowe in the stands wearing a hat that just says TV. Bad TV.
Yeah. I do love bad TV.
Okay, so don't start Drake May. Not yet.
When will you tell us when? Double digits game in the seasons. Okay.
Jacoby Rissett does. I'll say one thing about Jacoby Rissett.
He gets fucking killed. That's why I think that they're having him play.
Yeah. Because he looks, I want to say, somewhat competent.
Yeah. He understands.
I almost said he knows the offense. I don't know if somewhat competent would be what I would say.
He understands the offense, and he's a big guy. So when he gets hit, he's not getting broken in half.
So if they were to put Drake out there, they might be like, Drake is a little bit smaller, not built to absorb those hits. I feel like he understands the offense in the sense like he could – if you tell him a line, he could repeat it back.
But then if you asked him to like write down the full offense or execute it, it's just not, it hasn't been good. Like it's not good football watching at all.
It's a pretty big bummer. But you've got the right mindset, Tankathon.
Yeah, and at least it's much worse for Dolphins fans
because they look terrible and all they did was lose a QB.
Yeah.
Like if you would think with Mike McDaniel, Boy Genius,
all these weapons, they could string together some wins.
Boy Genius.
But they look bad.
Yeah.
No, it is true.
I'd rather be the Patriots than the Dolphins. Oh, that's bold.
Wow. Right? I mean.
Even with the mutiny? It depends on if the Dolphins end up getting a new quarterback. It seems like they still have enough talent to be good, but their talent will be like a year older.
Yeah, you might be right. Because I feel like – If you're doing a full rebuild because the Dolphins feel like – I don't know if Tua will – like is Tua going to play again? And then if he plays again, is he going to get hurt again? And then it's – are we going to do the whole thing again? I think Tua wants to play again.
I think he's – his intentions are that he's going to come back and play. But I'm going to – the entire time he's on the field, I'm going to be like, please don't get hurt again.
But it does feel like the Dolphins are kind of stuck. They are a little stuck, and the Patriots, if there is in fact a mutiny, then that might actually impact the full rebuild because you're not going to fire Jared Ayer, right? I don't play the mutiny.
Although you would want... One person's mutiny, that's another person's Patriot.
You would want the mutiny though, to be on the side of your rookie quarterback. That's the one good thing.
That's true. That they are galvanizing around him and maybe leader.
Maybe they'll just fire everybody that was on the mutiny. That would be hilarious.
If there was actually a mutiny. Yeah.
And they're like, you're not the coach anymore. Mayo Drake may is the coach.
You think they'd go straight to may. Yeah.
Just change one in his office placard. Yeah, just scrape it off the door.
Yeah. Okay.
Afternoon games. Cardinals, 24.
49ers, 23. This was the quintessential.
You're never as bad as you look, and you're never as good as you look because the 49ers kicked the shit out of the Patriots last week. The Cardinals got their ass kicked by the Commanders, and the Cardinals walked in and won this game.
And their defense was incredible in the second half. Shout out Jesse Lukita, who had not played a single game and was the guy who punched out the ball for Jordan Mason, which basically changed the game because the 49ers were going to score.
They stopped the entire second half. And Kyler's running.
That fourth down throw Kyler made to Marvin Harrison was awesome. Yeah, Kyler's looking good.
He's looking good. Was it the first series of the game that he took off for that touchdown? Yeah.
And he knew he was gone. He's like, nobody's catching me from behind.
See you. I'm out.
On the other side, Brock purdy feels like he's got a lot on his plate right now uh yeah so you like the the the niners have taken an offense that was built around having a sick-ass beautiful running game and then brock purdy not screwing things up and being like brock purdy go out there and have a sick-ass beautiful passing game and a running game won't screw things up yeah i don't think i don't think that's the formula for the niners yeah they did get brandon iuk going in the first half uh so that was good because that was the first time he felt like it was like oh shit yeah this is brandon iuk again uh but yeah i agree with you i i think we're also at the point where it's like the jordan mason's been good but christian mcafree is christian mrey. And then you have these moments where the fumble and just the game of inches where Christian McCaffrey is special and losing a special player like that, you lose games like this.
And at the goal line, when they're having him do some of the stuff that Christian McCaffrey used to do, don't do that. Just give him the ball and let him run.
Instead of splitting him out wide into the slot and then having him do those little option routes that McCaffrey does so awesomely. Don't ask Mason to do that.
Just hand the ball to Mason. Yeah.
The good news is for the 49ers, first of all, the Cardinals, I feel like this was a huge win. It was the first time they beat the 49ers in a few years.
It was also a huge win just because the Cardinals felt like they were teetering on the oh shit this season is going to really suck winning this game puts it back to oh maybe we could do something here they're they're kind of fun yeah the 49ers as a two and three team still good and the nfc west is completely in flux so you haven't basically you you're not going to get the one seed but you can still very much win the NFC West is completely in flux. So you haven't – basically you're not going to get the one seed, but you can still very much win the NFC West the fact that the Seahawks are only a game ahead of you and you play them on Thursday.
I have the Niners as my top two and three team in the NFL. Top two and three team.
And then the Jets probably – The Cardinals just beat them. Yeah, but so the Cardinals feel like – I still have the Niners ahead of me.
The Cardinals literally just beat them. But I'm talking about in terms of just total team.
They played them. And they beat them.
It was hot. It was really hot.
But they beat them. It was really hot.
The NFL wouldn't let them wear their white jerseys? That was the difference. They decided who was better on the field.
Yeah, but they wouldn't let them wear their white jerseys. The Cardinals is better than the Niners as of right now.
So it's interesting you said that because like seven hours ago, I had the Cardinals as a better 2-3 team than the Niners, but they flip-flopped after the game was over. Got it.
Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, the Niners wanted to wear the white jerseys in the 100-degree weather. The NFL said, no, you got to let us know before the season starts if you want to do that.
So the Cardinals got to wear it. And then they had – you see, Kyler on the sidelines had his two guys whose job it was to just hold a portable tent over his head at all times on the sidelines.
That's good work. That is good work.
Also, if you're a 49ers fan, Kyle Shanahan teams have – I know recently it feels like they've started fast, but here are his records in each quarter of the season. Kyle Shanahan, games 1 through 4, 17 and 15.
Games 5 through 8, 10 and 18. I guess that's 10 and 19 now.
Games 9 through 12, 17 and 11. Games 13 through 16, 20 and 8.
So the teams get better. Yeah.
The teams get better as the year goes along. But still, a bad loss.
They were up 13, and they didn't score in the entire second half. Bad loss.
Kyle in the red zone, he was just calling some weird shit tonight. Yeah.
It was really strange. I feel like, I don't know.
Kyle needs a guy. He needs to have a full-time coach that just stands next to him and says, run the ball.
Yeah, run the ball. You're on the one-yard line.
Run the fucking ball. Okay.
Broncos 34, 34 raiders 18 the broncos jerseys they should wear the only those jerseys they were so nice and bo nicks has arrived yeah bo nicks is fun i don't know i still don't know if he's good or not but he's fun bo nicks is fun certified yeah stamp it and when he wears the throwback uniforms are awesome i don't know if you saw this did you see the injury cart? No. They had a throwback injury cart that had the giant Broncos blue helmet on it.
That's awesome. And it was also like an old school, looked like a bullpen cart.
Kind of like a Buick type body frame. I love that.
It looked like maybe an old Bel Air, but it was sick. It was just a good look.
And they also had another throwback today, which was they had, I believe, the first white cornerback to get an interception in 22 years.
Whoa.
Since Jason Sehorne.
Whoa.
And it was funny because Minshew threw a pick to Riley Moss,
and then Minshew immediately got benched after that.
Yeah.
That's the line. I was going to say, is that the most depressing quarterback controversy?
I don't even know if it's a controversy, but Gardner Minshew and Aiden O'Connell? Yeah. That's just a bummer.
And I love Gardner Minshew. I think Gardner Minshew should just don't make him start too many games.
It's not fair. You have to know the limitations of what someone can do.
And him starting a bunch of games, don't do it do it because here's the thing you can't get a spark from Gardner Minshew if he's the starter and you can't get a spark from O'Connell if he just comes into the game he's not a spark guy right the only way you can generate a spark is if Gardner doesn't start then you put him in guess what you just got. You just got the spark.
So you can maybe tell AOC all week he's starting,
and then, I don't know, day of the game, be like,
we're going to give the ball to Gardner.
Right.
And then you got a spark.
Right, and the spark happens.
But yeah, it's just feels like they're asking too much of him.
They might be.
And he bummed me out. And he also got caught maybe eating his pokers on the sideline.
Did he really?
I didn't see that.
Yeah.
He went straight from nose to mouth. That's a bummer.
Nose to mouth. It was as clear as day.
What was it, the raccoon that they found? Yeah, there was a raccoon, a rally raccoon before the game. Nice.
He was climbing up the stands, looking spry, looking chipper. But Bo Nix, I don't know.
Do you think he's good, or do you think he's just fun? I think he's, um, I don't, can I say neither? You don't think he's fun? Mmm, no. I think Bo Nix is a little bit fun.
I watched too much Bo Nix in college to think he was fun early at Auburn, and then he was kind of just, he's like good-ish. Yeah, but I don't know, the way he runs around out there, he actually looks like he's on cocaine.
Auburn-Bow Nix was very fun. Oregon-Bow Nix was more buttoned up.
He got married and he threw the passes that were there. Remember Brock Purdy? Guys can change once they get in the league.
Yeah. Listen, he had a good game.
You have to give credit. And the Broncos defense is, we've been hyping it up, but the Broncos defense is a very very legit unit Patrick's 10 is incredible that hundred yard return was awesome like they their defense will keep them in a lot of games and they could they could be a sneaky playoff team in the conversation they're in the conversation that we're having right now if they keep those throwbacks they're more in But, yeah, the Broncos' defense is legit, and it feels like as long as Bo Nix keeps progressing, the Broncos, for the first time in a long time, probably since Peyton Manning, have a little bit of hope.
Yeah. And that's good.
Yeah, and Javante Williams is sick. Yeah.
He's one of my favorite players to watch. Yeah, they got a big one against the Chargers next week.
So that will be who can be – basically who can be the Chiefs bitch. It's a big battle to win.
But that's like a great prize to get. Yeah.
If you're the team in that division that everyone else is always disappointed for not beating the Chiefs, that's a good place to be. It could be the passing of the torch.
Oh, shit. Now it's the Broncos.
Watch out for them. But yeah, I'm pumped for the Broncos fans.
Like, the throwbacks were great, and the end zones were cool, and their defense, awesome, and Bo Nix had a great second half. He had three touchdown drives.
So, good for them. Brock Bowers also is sick, and it's too bad because he doesn't really have a quarterback.
Yeah, but when he caught that pass in the first quarter, that was nice.
Also, Max Crosby should just win Defensive Player of the Year
because he's doing it on a bad team and just keeps wrecking everyone.
I think he has a sack in 10 straight games or something.
I read it.
I don't know.
Yeah, and I also feel like Max is one of those guys
where if he's a game-time decision and he plays,
he has one of his best games ever.
Yeah, he had two sacks today.
He's a fucking beast.
He's an absolute beast.
Okay, should we take...
Oh, yeah, that was great.
There was a moment where Bo Nix was talking to his offensive line,
audible-ing, and Max Crosby just stood up and said,
Bo, speak up.
They don't fucking know.
Can you play the audio?
I love Max Crosby.
Damn.
That's got to be so emasculating.
Yeah.
Your opponent is coaching you up
because you're being too timid at the line?
Yeah.
Fucking speak with your chest, Bo.
You're a rookie.
Come on.
They should wear those uniforms every week.
Every single week.
Fans should get to vote on this where it's like, hey,
this is the uniform that we're just going with.
Yeah.
What was the other thing you said about a fan today?
Was it on that kickoff where they had to get a guy out on the field to hold the ball yeah so we had that uh there was a moment what game was super windy uh patriots no no it was bills played in a dome i can't remember which game it was but it there's a new rule with the new kickoff rule if it's super if it's super windy and they you know try to tee it up and then it falls up it might have actually been the bears game uh a 12th guy's allowed on the field to hold
it and then he has to immediately run off the field yeah you gotta you gotta hightail it off
because if you don't they can penalize you and this would be a wild scenario like if the guy
that's holding the ball he's not an actual player on that play he's just kind of like a piece of
equipment so he's helping hold the ball if that guy were to actually make a tackle on the kick
Thank you. the ball he's not an actual player on that play he's just kind of like a piece of equipment so he's helping hold the ball if that guy were to actually make a tackle on the kick return yeah the refs could throw a flag and award a touchdown right and say this is like unnatural to the game of football we're going to step in we're going to count as a touchdown so this is actually an idea from our good friend sam schwarstein because he created this this new kickoff and he when i think it was like over the summer he texted me he's like hey i think they're gonna do this where you can have a 12th guy and like they should they should make it so that a fan can win a contest i like and it would be incredible imagine if one of us were just fully padded running out onto an nfl field just to hold the ball problem is we'd have to hold well, I'd be really.
And we'd fuck that up. We already talked about that.
We'd be really good at holders. Mm-hmm.
It'd be sick. Really good.
I'd wear gloves. We'd never drop that.
I'd wear gloves. If they had the mascot do it in the full mascot uniform, that would rock too.
That would be sick. Or they should make the owner do it.
Yeah. Virginia McCaskey would never get off the field.
Yeah, some of them can't get off the field. It would be so great.
David Tepper just running out there, having to see his team face to face.
They say that you can't, you know, if you make a tackle as that player,
then it could be a penalty.
What about hitting that guy on their way off the field?
You should be able to.
Just absolutely light up David Tepper.
God, that would rock.
Yeah, it'd be cool.
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And it was like Giants did it in all three phases. Yeah, it was sick.
So on that last field goal, I went back, I watched the replay of it. You know what happened on it? They did a very smart play.
It's technically not legal, but it's smart what they did. After the snapper snaps the ball, you're not allowed to block him.
You're not allowed to push him. There were two guys on the Giants that were pushing.
One guy was pushing down on the back of the center that snapped it, the long snapper, and the other guy was pushing down on the back of one of the guards, keeping them low, and then they jumped over their head, blocked the kick, and it got returned. Because if you touch the center, it's a penalty.
It should be a penalty, yeah, to touch the long snapper within, like, I think a second or so of him snapping the ball, maybe even longer than that. But, yeah, they did a very smart thing that wasn't called.
It looked like when you fuck around in Madden and you just go off sides to just be like, fuck i just want to block this no matter what it looks so easy that i thought to myself why doesn't every team just do that right and it also it was it was a quintessential uh play that if you're a seahawks fan you watched it and for at least three minutes you're like so they're gonna throw the flag right yeah like the flag has to come out this can't be this can't be how this happened. Yeah.
It was a wild play. And this also, now we've got a trend in the NFL, Big Ed.
Have you heard about the trend? No. The Lions hangover? Oh.
So, yeah. I love these.
I love these. Okay.
So, the Rams, they played the Lions. Then they lost the Cardinals, 41-10.
Right? The Buccaneers, they beat the Lions. And then the next game, they lost to the Broncos, 26-7.
Yep. The Cardinals lost to the Lions.
And then they lost to the Commanders, 42-14. Now the Seahawks lost to the Lions on Monday Night Football.
And now they lose to the Giants. Wow.
So Lions hangover. I think it's a real thing.
So it sucks that they're on a bye week. Because we can't follow this trend right now.
We can't follow the trend, but we should. But remember it.
This is an old trend that would happen with Alabama. Actually, Brett Pielma's team in Arkansas, I would play this trend because they would just play like cement mixer games where they would just beat the fuck out of teams, and then they just be so beat up the next week yeah you'd go against them you got no kneecaps left after you played yeah and this is where i hank can you put in a reminder can you try to do that sure yes who do the lions play next week let's look that up on the old schedule oh yeah and then then find out.
And then we got to go against them.
Against them the week after.
It's a two-step process.
You got that, Hank?
You feel good about this?
So the Lions play the Cowboys next week.
Okay.
And then the Cowboys play.
And the Cowboys play.
Cowboys play.
Fuck, they're on a bye.
Damn it. All right.
So I'm not going to count that as being part of the trend. God damn it.
No, you can't. So then they play the Vikings the week after.
And then we'll have to bet against the Vikings the week after that. If the Vikings are on a bye, I'm going to fuck it.
They're not. They're on a bye this week.
Oh, yeah. That's right.
No, then the Cowboys play the 49ers.
Yeah, I know, but they're on a bye.
The Cowboys have a bye in between the Lions and the 49ers to get healthy
from playing against the Lions.
Got it.
It's like the Vikings are off this whole week because they went over to England.
They're giving the Cowboys that whole week off because they just had to play
the Lions.
The Vikings play at the Rams short rest Thursday night football.
Love that. Love that.
Hank, please remind us to hammer the Rams hammer the Rams on October 24th hammer I might put that in now hammer we got a look ahead line DraftKings does have some look headlines I don't think they have that far look ahead but hammer that might be one like Cooper Cupp cups back puka yeah hammer um uh yeah good for the giants this was the first time uh the giants had a 100 plus uh passer rating for a quarterback 100 yards plus rushing 100 yard plus receiving uh receiver in the same game since 2014. Damn.
Damn.
It's been a minute.
That's a long time it should have been worse because i think the giants scored a touchdown on that fumble return yeah i think the ball was on the line when it was knocked out but they for some reason some stadiums just don't have sideline games that show you down the goal line i don't know tyron tracy uh was awesome running back uh big 10 he played for iowa and purdue but he was he he was filling in for singletary and he had 129 yards and like giants had a good game plan dable could still coach did you see the funny video after dable shutting down the instagram live in the in the locker room i did see that yeah it's like turn that better not be posted yeah that better not be live yeah like yeah that's exactly what it is Going live in the locker room is just such a weird move, too. It is.
Especially because there's this new... What's this whole fight that's happening? So that was going to be my who's back of the week.
Okay, let's save it. Save it.
Save it. Yeah, and as for the Seahawks, I don't know if they're bad or just super, super injured, but their defense was gashed, and their offense couldn't really get going until the very end.
I don't really know what to make of the Seahawks.
I don't think that they're bad.
I think they just played the Lions.
Yeah, but their defense is getting gashed.
I mean, the Giants are not like an explosive team, and the Giants were able to move the ball up and down the field.
I still don't think the Seahawks are a fat team.
They have a lot of injuries.
They have a lot of injuries. They have a lot of injuries.
I know that. I know that for a fact.
Seahawks are going to be in the mix. Yeah, I would agree.
It's just, I don't know. This is maybe when, like, it's like, when you have a guy like Geno or Sam Darnold, there's always just, like, a nagging piece of you that's just like, what if they're back to that version? Yeah, you what I mean? You just can never get it out of your head.
And I don't think Gino was – he was under pressure instantly almost. I think he got sacked seven times.
And he was incredible the week before against the Lions. But there's just something in the back of your head that's just like, I don't know, man.
Because we saw a lot of it. Yeah.
Fucked you up mentally. Yeah.
Because, like, again, he wasn't great today, but it was also he was pressured like crazy, and they just felt like they never had the ball in the first half, never got into a flow. DK was kind of shut down by what's his name? DK looked kind of weird today.
Deontay Banks played really well. One of those weird games.
But yeah, there's just something in the back of my head. I can't shake it.
If either one of those guys walked out wearing their old Jets uniform, you'd be like, get them off my team. Yeah, right.
What the fuck? Okay. Last game, Packers 24, Rams 19.
Now I know the Packers won, and I know Jordan Love looked great in the second half that pick six was so fucking funny and I loved I loved it so so much it was a great one wasn't it it was it's a gunslinger it looked like he was playing for Tennessee Titans oh I know what you're saying yeah I was gonna say look it was was far-vesk. Yeah, but he avoided getting safety because that was also just a perfect encapsulation of how much new rules suck because the defender didn't want to hit him too hard because you never want to get a penalty, got bounced backwards, and then just threw it up into the other defender's hands for a pick six.
It's like he got knocked off yeah you know it was very very funny he was like horizontal when he threw that too but then he did
bounce back and the backers looked very very good until the very end when somehow the rams snuck
back in this game yeah they just find that the rain you can't get rid of the rams the rams are
uh number one needed to buy yeah so they got the bye week they're one and four then they have a
ton of injuries they need to get healthy uh they needed to buy very bad i also i hate to compliment
the number one needed the buy. Yeah.
So they got the buy week. They're one and four.
They have a ton of injuries. They need to get healthy.
They needed the buy very bad. I also, I hate to compliment the Packers in any way, but Xavier McKinney probably should be defensive player of the year if he keeps this up because he has an interception in every single game so far.
Yeah. Crazy would have a good defense for you.
Nuts. But the Packers deserve credit because they don't usually go out and get free agents and they got him
and he has been very, very good.
And I think, yeah, I don't
the Rams are just, it just
shows like they can lose all
this talent, but if you have a good quarterback and
coach, you can always be in these games.
And like Stafford
wasn't even that great today, but
I don't know. If they get
healthy, they could maybe start
rattling off some games. I'm happy they're my pinky
I need to get started. And, like, Stafford wasn't even that great today.
But I don't know. If they get healthy, they could maybe start rattling off some games.
I'm happy they're my pinky team. Imagine if it was the Ravens.
The word I would use for the Rams would be pesky. Yeah.
They're pesky. You got to be ready to go.
Yeah. If you let them hang around.
They're a professional football team. They are.
They're very much a professional football team. But, yeah, the Packers, I think Jordan Love is going to,
as fun as that pick six was,
I think he's starting to get warmed up and the knee injury is like, because he kind of did the same thing last week,
where the first half he wasn't looking great,
and then he got warm and everything started to get a little easier
and made some big throws.
Tucker Craft happened.
That pass to Jaden Reed was sick in the first half.
That was a great throw.
I can admit it.
I'll see it out loud. And they got a tight end.
Tucker Craft was very good today. Yes.
Yeah. So good games all around.
Just a fun football Sunday. Fun football Sunday.
Max, you want to talk baseball real quick before, while we wait for the Cowboys and Steelers game to finish
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Because you were on the stream in New York Company man Flying all the way there for just a stream By the way, after performing with Mount Joy on Friday Oh yeah, you guys rocked That was sick That was fun, Max You guys were awesome PFT was like PFT is just as good a guitar like anybody yeah that's not true yeah i don't know i think you were just ripping it cv ray vaughn pft yeah that's what they say um max took his hair down and when he let his hair down and start headbanging i would that freed me up max yeah we fed off each other i was just i'm i'm free to rock and roll now because max is leading the way the mount Mount Joy guys came by during the day. Awesome dudes.
Awesome dudes. Awesome, awesome dudes.
An amazing concert. Yeah.
If you, any AWLs out there, go to a Mount Joy concert. Great fall music.
So I wasn't able to be there because I was going up to Madison to have dinner with some friends. But I was listening to Mount Joy on the way up because they are great road trip fall music.
But saw the clips i watched all the clips biggest smile on my face because it's just great seeing the boys fucking rock i think they're probably my favorite philadelphia
sports fans yeah and they're they're such cool dudes they're the nicest guys in the world yeah
also they i i heard a little story now in chicago you hear about the dave matthews band
dumping the shit on the bus or on the the boat of people yep that were going underneath the
Thank you. I heard a little story.
Now, in Chicago, you hear about the Dave Matthews band dumping the shit on the boat of people. Yep.
That were going underneath the Kedzie Street Bridge, right? Yeah, on the Chicago River. I feel like I have to educate people about something that I learned.
The fact that it wasn't actually Dave Matthews' tour bus that did it. It was their violinist tour bus that did it.
And Dave Matthews, being a stand-up guy,
has taken the blame for it for all these years.
But it was Dave Matthews' band.
His violinist had his own tour bus.
But he's in the band.
He's in the band.
And Dave probably at the time couldn't say,
you know what, it actually wasn't me, it was my violin player.
That would have seemed kind of weird.
That guy would have been in a lot of trouble.
But the fact that he hasn't said it over the years and has taken the blame for it, stand-up guy.
That is a stand-up guy move.
Also, full story, they emptied their septic tank on the bridge
and it went on to the architecture boat tour.
Yeah.
Yes.
I know, but memes want to reset.
For people listening, the full story is what happens.
I feel like the Dave Matthews Band tour bus story is like Pete Weber.
I didn't know about it until Chicago.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like... For people listening, the fuck story is what that is.
I feel like the Dave Matthews Band tour bus story is like Pete Weber. I didn't know about it until Chicago.
Yeah. Until I moved to Chicago, I didn't know about it.
It was 800 pounds of shit and piss. Yeah.
The gray water. That fell onto tourists.
Yeah. Terrible.
I can never imagine. Terrible.
Yeah. But you're Phillies.
Congratulations. Yeah.
Sorry. So playoff baseball.
You know what? Let's talk Phillies last. Cardians killed the Tigers, but I think Scoobles going Monday, so they should have a chance there.
Yankees struggle with the Royals, but won game one. And then we have the Padres-Dodgers series, which has all the bad blood that I love.
Dodgers won game one. Padres hit a thousand home runs game two.
Fans were throwing shit onto the field. Yeah, this series is going to be awesome.
Bad sports town? Max, I'll step in for you. Imagine if Philadelphia did that.
I was trying to look up who the probable pitcher was for the Tigers. What were you saying? I think Scubble is pitching.
Dodgers fans were throwing shit onto the field. That's fucked up.
If that was in Philly, it would have been a disaster. But then Padres fans were throwing it back, or Padres were throwing it back, which was awesome.
I like that. Yeah.
They should be allowed to do that. Absolutely should be allowed to do it.
Absolutely. I saw another thing.
Yeah, it's Scubal on Monday. Okay.
I saw a tweet. Someone said it was like people in the dodgers were throwing shit onto the field so then the padre just started hitting home runs into at the people yeah yeah it's a good one yeah that is good that also might be what i meant by throwing it back because that's what i read the same thing and i thought they were literally throwing oh okay that's probably what that makes more sense that's what it was i don't think they were actually throwing shit back.
But it was a weird, like, long delay. Yeah.
Who's the Padres left fielder, Profar? He was talking shit after he robbed that home run, which is awesome. And also, kind of a – Smoltz, I think, said it on the broadcast, if any fan there was wearing a glove, it wouldn't happen.
Yeah, good point. So you should be wearing a glove.
Harbaugh was there. Yeah.
He was on a bye week, right? He was. Harbaugh's got a glove.
You should have brought him to the game. He should have been there.
But yeah, the, and then we have the Mets and Phillies, the game one, Max, well, I was watching you on that stream the whole time. It was painful to watch you because I think I saw it in your head when Schwarber hit the home run to start the game.
You were like, this is going to fucking rock. Well, yeah, because in the NLDS last year, like we just hit so many home runs, right? And you're like, this is going to rock.
This is how it's going to be. We're better than them.
We're going to fucking hit.
We're going to mash home runs.
These aren't the Brewers. I think that was your exact words.
But then the light started to go out of your eyes as the game got longer and longer. And Wheeler was dealing and you just weren't hitting any more home runs.
And I think you knew deep down, you're like, this is setting up to the worst. And that's what happened.
and then tonight, I actually think, Max,
tonight might have been the shift in the series because the Mets did what they've been doing. Did I see the stat? They have 44 comeback wins this year.
It's insane. The Mets did what they do.
They were down 6-4, and they tied the game in the eighthth and you guys still or was it the 9th they tied in the 9th we were too out we had two it was gonna be like up here the Mets this is a team of destiny is what they do but you guys might have killed that because you staved it off and won I don't know if we killed it but I think that we showed that we can also be resilient. You can also be a team of destiny? Not destiny, but like...
No, no, no. If you beat them, you're the team of destiny.
You might have stolen destiny from them. No.
You get team of destiny. You can't be a bi-team and be team of destiny.
Yeah, you can if you beat the team of destiny. Is that how that works? Yeah, it passes it off.
In a team of destiny type fashion, which you did tonight. That way we can always have the team of destiny win, and we can say, hey, look, we were right, Team of Destiny.
See, this way, if the Mets come back and they beat the Phillies, then they just took the Team of Destiny back from you guys. Right, and if you beat the Mets in this series, you're now the new Team of Destiny.
Then let's say the Padres beat you. Now they're the Team of Destiny.
I can see them being Team of too. Then they get to the World Series, and the Guardians beat them.
Guardians were always the team of destiny. See how right we were? I think really the only team that can't be the team of destiny is the New York Yankees.
Yeah. I'm done listening about this.
Or Dodgers. Or Dodgers.
Dodgers can't be the team of destiny either, yeah. But this game was awesome.
The Phillies were so dead. Like, zero life on any one of that team and then bryce harper hit the home run and it was incredible the whole team started to hit as soon as bryce did cassianos was amazing yeah cassianos absolute day two drives to left right well he hit a home home run the walk-offs like the walk-offs single that's what i'm saying how saying.
How did Jimmy Carter survive two deep drives to left by Castellanos?
That's insane.
Crazy.
Nothing can kill this man.
Also, earlier in the game.
So, Philly fans were very pissed, as you could imagine,
after scoring basically one run in a game and a half.
Yeah.
And Castellanos was getting a lot of shit for swinging at balls in the dirt.
Yeah.
And he laid off of one, and the crowd erupted mocking him. And the camera cut to him, and he was just shaking his head and saying, these fucking guys, talking about the fans.
Yeah. And then right after that, he had the best game of his career.
That's all up. So all the Philly fans are being like, bullying works.
Yeah, bullying works. Last Last year it was Trey Turner that you guys willed back through rounds of applause, right? Yes, this is the opposite.
No, you applauded for him, though. Yeah, I guess it was.
Yeah. It was a mocking applause.
Yeah, but still Philly applause. It gets the job done.
And then Max delivered an all-time showing on the stream, too, because he got closer and closer to the TV to watch as the game went on. And he was just sitting crisscross, just looking like a big baby.
Yeah. I mean that in, like, not you're a baby.
I mean literally looking like a big baby. You're sitting baby style on the ground.
Yeah, it was great. You look like a three-year-old sitting down trying to keep your attention while they do colors yeah we should stick with that baby style baby style that's good for you max and people love it when max gets like this we haven't seen him like this in a while but when he gets the best when he gets so excited and happy that he actually gets mad like you're i don't know if you know this about yourself max but your natural reaction when good things happen to you is you get mad.
You get angry at – I don't know who you get angry at. You have to be angry at somebody.
Oh, he gives the hardest high fives ever. And you get this scowl on your face.
He tries to hit through your hand. Yeah, you're so happy that you're extremely upset.
Yeah. And I love it.
Baseball is just – there's so many moments throughout a game, and it's really – it's tough. It's tough.
You fought. Yeah, today was a good one.
Today was a good one. I mean, it's still anyone's series.
Gotta take one in New York. Gotta take one in New York.
Well, you literally have to take one in New York. Literally, yeah.
If you don't take one in New York, the series is over. Alright, so next next game, must win.
Yeah, actually. Actually must win.
What do you mean actually? You lied about the other one? Sounds like you lied about it. Well, yeah, because we didn't win, and it's not over.
We told you that, though. Yeah, I thought it was must win.
But now. This one's must win.
Who's on the bump? Who's on the bump? We have Nola on the bump. Oh, let's go.
Is he good again? Yeah, he's good. We switched him.
He normally would be our second pitcher, but our third pitcher is really bad on the road and really good at home. So we had him pitch second at home, and then Nola.
Got it. Trust Nola to go.
And who do the Mets have? Memes said he thinks Minaya. Oh, okay.
Max, I'm confused though. When you said that it turns out that game one wasn't a must win because then you can come back and win another one, wouldn't that be the exact scenario that we're talking about going into this? No, but like Ranger Suarez has been pretty bad in the second half.
And Nola's been good. So you don't want to rely on a situation where they think Ranger Shores will probably only go like four innings, and then it's a bullpen game, and our bullpen's been really bad.
So that's why tomorrow's must win. Got it.
Yep, it's Nola versus Minaya. Okay.
Got it. Okay, we just finished the Steelers-Cowboys game.
The weather delay game. It's past midnight.
that was going to be the most Steelers win ever when, who was it who knocked the ball out? That was one of the coolest goal line tackles. The linebacker, Troy Palomalu.
Troy Palomalu with the haircut. One of the coolest tackles I've ever seen, but then Dak clutched up and won the game.
I would say dac clutched up twice yeah clutched up by recovering that fumble true and then he unclutched for a second he unclenched when he skipped that ball in about five yards short of tolbert hit his receiver in the nuts off the ground cowboys took a timeout in part uh to let tolbert's nuts recover correct because he was not able to walk out there and then then, yeah, found him in the end zone. Crazy ending.
But, yeah, that would have been the perfect Steelers game. And it feels like the Steelers play games like this every single week where they do nothing on offense.
They have, like, one or two decent drives. Yep.
And their defense just plays their lights out, and they get one or two huge turnovers and win the game. And you're like, are the Steelers good? Well, the, oh, shit.
Jordan Lewis, Cowboys cornerback, said Pittsburgh needs a receiver. George Pickens weak because George Pickens did try to fight the other team after the game, which was pretty stupid.
Pretty standard for George Pickens. Yeah, but this does feel like the good vibes.
Steelers starting 3-0. Justin Fields looked good.
Kind of fell back to earth tonight because the Cowboys came in with a bunch of injuries. They were underdogs.
Steelers are ready to go. And a winnable game that they just don't have enough offense for.
Again, couldn't run the ball.
Justin Fields was not what we saw in the first three weeks. And he didn't play terrible, terrible, but their offense just was tough to watch.
It looked like a lot of Steelers games that we've seen. Right.
It looked like a ton of Steelers games. And the Cowboys might have saved their season because if they had lost this game, not only would they be 2-3
and 2 games
back The Cowboys might have saved their season because if they had lost this game, not only would they be two and three and two games back from the commanders, but also you would have had an entire week of C.D. Lamb, Dak Prescott discourse after C.D.
Lamb. I think he yelled jump ball, jump ball after Dak Prescott read C.D.'s route wrong possibly and threw an interception in the first half, and then CeeDee Lamb basically went 25 minutes without getting a target after that.
Yeah, that's all we would have talked about this week. All we would have talked about.
And it almost ended twice in very Steelers' fashions. The first time when Dak ran out of bounds at like the half-yard line.
Yes. And then we almost got the fumble through the end zone touchback rule to end the game.
That probably would have been a more appropriate Steelers ending. Yep.
Because it would have been just like a little bit weirder. But yeah, the Cowboys, they did what they had to do.
Mike McCarthy wins his homecoming game. And who was it? Was it Damian Woody that said last week, should the Cowboys start tanking? Who? I guess not.
No. I guess probably not through just the end of September.
Are the Cowboys better without Micah Parsons? They might be better without Micah Parsons. They might be better without Micah Parsons.
But it did feel like, especially because the Cowboys have coming up the Lions and the 49ers, this was a game they had to have. Because Lions and 49ers, especially if the 49ers get desperate, Lions off a bye, then at 49ers, you could have been staring at, you know, a 2-5 record.
Yeah, especially because then you have to play the 49ers after you played the Lions. Correct.
Correct. Oh, no, that's the bye week.
It's the bye week. Yeah, that's the bye week we talked about.
Did you see George Pickens' eye black tonight? No. Oh, my God.
All right, so George Pickens, he's one of my favorite players to watch in the NFL. He really is.
I don't know if he's one of my favorite players, but he's- Definitely not one of my favorite players. He does just crazy shit every single week.
Yeah. And this week, they zoomed in on his face for a second, and his eye black said, open fucking always across it.
Oh. Not always fucking open.
It was open fucking always. Okay.
And when I look i look at that i think to myself why did he write it like that i think he knew that when you look at yourself in the mirror that you're supposed to be able to read things backwards so he wrote the last word first but he didn't write the letters backwards in him got it so it's just the last word first then fucking right across the bridge of his nose then always i would imagine he had someone write it for him you don't think he put it down and then wrote it with a marker and then took the eye black off the adhesive maybe that's what i think or or someone on the equipment staff but yeah yeah that's i don't know if any team employee would have written that on his i'd probably been like hey mike i don't am i allowed to write this i think if george pickens asks you to do anything, you probably just do it. Yeah, probably.
But, yeah, that's aggressive eye black for a game where I don't know what – I don't think he did much at all. It feels like George Pickens just – they take a couple shots to him, and either all of them miss or one of them will hit, and they'll just be like, holy shit, he's awesome.
He had three for 26. Yeah.
he also got a face mask after the end of the game he grabbed the cowboys guy he's gonna get fined yep that'll be a fine also uh good job chris collinsworth and uh mike trico for staying up they mentioned that like seven times oh man all the coffee that we've drank it's like maybe an hour later it's football it was an hour hour and 15
minute delay yeah you got to watch football tonight you're fine it was a perfect ending to a great football weekend though i feel so satisfied with football listen we would never complain about having to stay up late it is um 12 10 right now i could use a game right now if you told me there's a game right now i'd be like let's do it i'd watch all nighter with the boys because there's just something about a good game.
It wasn't a good game but it was a exciting game in the end ending where you just have that moment where you're like fuck i could use some more football i could always go for a double header oh guess what we got one tomorrow night yeah and we have one the next day and the next day and yeah that's right 55 days uh all right's finish up with who's back. PFT, you got one last ad for us.
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All right, who's back of the week, Hank?
My who's back of the week is Bronny James.
Yeah.
The NBA preseason is happening,
so he has been getting his first minutes of NBA experience.
Yep.
It's not going well.
What do you mean?
And this could just be my algorithm and my anti-LeBron uh you know life that i've lived but i saw a video that went pretty viral of just breaking down how like bad he was in his just in the first preseason game he played in terms of like spacing passing court everything so everything he was doing was was was Yeah, I mean, he's not an NBA
player.
But he's not an NBA player. Yeah, I know.
That's crazy.
I agree with you. Yeah, like,
he's bad. Really, really bad.
Yeah. They had a moment where they
stood next to each other when they both
got in at the same time tonight. It was
James and then James Jr.
LeBron went up to him, stood next to him
with his jersey. He knew that there were cameras behind him.
Yeah. But probably a pretty cool moment for LeBron.
Yeah. Very cool.
But does he have those moments now and they're going to get rid of him? No, he's definitely staying. How long can you keep that up? As long as LeBron's on the Lakers.
It would be very funny if LeBron traded his son. Who would trade for him? Yeah, good point.
A report came out that said the Warriors wanted to take him but didn't out of respect for LeBron. Which I'm guessing came from LeBron.
I think it was also LeBron saying if you draft him, he won't play for you. No, Hank's right.
It was LeBron saying because he wants people to back off on the idea that he wasn't going to get drafted. So he's just going to put it out.
Yeah. Yeah.
That was definitely LeBron reporting that. I want to see him play.
It would be fun. Yeah, me too.
Yeah. Especially, like, if he costs him a game.
That would be crazy. That would be really crazy.
Yeah, and if LeBbron controls jj like they're saying then that conversation is going to happen yeah uh by the way hank i know we talked college football wins but congrats thank you huge win thank you big upset yeah i mean you it's always good to be the defending national champion um did you watch it no No. But it was a big win.
It was a big win. Yeah.
You're Huskies. I'm happy for my Huskies.
Is there a moment that you get into college football or no? No. Okay.
That's fine. I thought maybe sometime when golf ends.
Yeah. Probably.
Okay. No.
It's been beautiful weather. It has been.
It's been gorgeous. I think it's going to take the sun.
You have Belichick coaching your team. If Tom Brady's son was the quarterback, then you get into it.
Yeah. That would be your team.
All right. PFT, your who's back? My who's back of the week is attacks on the First Amendment.
Oh. Because they're trying to limit freedom of the press.
The NFLPA is trying to tell the media where they can and cannot go, and the place that they cannot go is in the locker room anymore. Don't we do this every few years? So it says, Over the past three years, the NFLPA has tried to work with the NFL and the Pro Football Writers of America to move media interviews out of the locker rooms.
However, there has been little willingness to collaborate on a new solution. Players feel that locker room interviews invade their privacy and are uncomfortable.
This isn't about limiting media access, but about respecting players' privacy and dignity. The NFL's current media policy is outdated.
We call on the NFL to make immediate changes to foster a more respectful and safer workplace for all players. In the meantime, we encourage each player to ask for interviews outside locker room during the week.
So basically what's happened over the past three years is the NFLPA is like, hey, can you let us put our pants on before you interview us? Yeah. And the journalists are like, no, absolutely.
That's when you get the good stuff. When you're interviewing a fully nude man, they have no choice but to be honest with you.
And so now the NFL has not really been able to make any ground with the writers, the pro football writers. And so the NFLPA is now just saying, hey, if you're a naked player in a locker room, tell all the writers that you'll talk to them after you put your clothes on got outside the locker room got it it is it is kind of weird that in sports we just send journalists in the locker rooms when players are literally naked and they're like hey now is our time to interview you like imagine if we interviewed somebody naked on part of my take.
Yeah. I mean, they're not naked.
There's people in the background that might be naked, but guys aren't naked. They have towels.
Yeah. I mean, I don't think reporters go up to them when they're naked.
I think it happens. I don't know about that.
I think it happens. Fully naked? I think it happens.
I honestly, part of me obviously understands yeah it's weird that
the reporters are in there but uh i also think that those usually usually get the best quotes and the raw reactions in those moments that's true where it's like you'll if if everyone can compose themselves i i guess it falls on like which what are you looking for you looking for cliches and guys
being able to have like 30 minutes to
collect their thoughts yeah i guess that would be fair to the players but i also kind of like when a player says something crazy right after a game because that makes for the best stories and that's what we get to talk yeah when they're get when they're furious after a loss right or when they're like very very happy right after when yeah you get better stuff for sure i just think it's strange that there are people that are actually like nude in the locker room and then the reporters are just like walking around them yeah i mean there's a lot of people in those locker rooms though yeah yeah yeah uh i i couldn't understand the debate when i saw it i was just like what's going on i what are we gonna because it feels like are they gonna stop it or no well they're telling all the players if you feel uncomfortable tell the reporter i'll do my interview later got it yeah but i don't think that there's any change so the reporters still can go in there the reporters can still go in there and i also think don't they give them a little bit of time before they open the locker room i think they do like instant i think they give them a little bit of time and then that's when most of the guys actually shower right and then they come back from their shower and get changed got it yeah um all right my who's back uh because i didn't have one is that i just always i don't know do you guys do this on sunday nights when you when we leave and finish i just look at next week's slate right away yeah uh you want to look at it real quick yeah let's do All right. So we have another perfect setup of London game and then six games early and four games late, which I love.
Yep. Not the best slate, but I want to point to a couple.
Bucs-Saints. Also 49ers-Seahawks on Thursday.
49ers-Seahawks Thursday. Bucs-Saints, Commanders, Commanders Ravens, early.
Lions Cowboys in the afternoon is going to be awesome. And then Bengals Giants will be fun because Bengals are fighting for their life.
I like that. Yeah.
My who's back is always just more football. I do that every single Sunday night.
I just go look through the next week. Maybe even look a week ahead sometimes too just to get excited about it.
Texans Patriots hank that'll be big huge and then yeah bills jets next monday night get right game for you max yeah eagles browns baseball but phillies phillies you phillies just gotta do it i i'm i'm focused focused my voice is also cooked yeah you gotta take a day off You have a day off You have a scheduled day off right now Alright great show boys Football What a fucking week What a weekend of football Can't wait to talk college football on Wednesday Shout out Vandy Shout out Vandy What a fucking And that slate I was just looking at that slate for this weekend. Oh, yeah.
This is the best-looking slate of college football games maybe I've ever seen. Yeah, no.
I think two weeks from now is even better. Is it better? I believe so.
I'm a Georgia-Texas. That's pretty good.
Ohio State-Oregon is going to rock. But, yeah.
I mean, but that's the thing with college football. This week was supposed to be a bad slate and it was incredible yeah this is the best weekend so far it just went nuts everything went nuts um yeah wait no that's not two weeks that's that's uh is it two weeks or no it's i'm looking right now let's look at it this is fun just looking right now.
Let's look at it. This is fun.
Just looking at future football slates.
Oh, yeah.
Oregon, Michigan.
Ohio State, Penn State.
Is this where the Bama?
I don't know.
Ohio State, Penn State is November.
I don't know what memes is.
Here we go.
October 18th, we've got Georgia, Texas.
We've got Miami, Louisville.
We've got Alabama, Tennessee, Michigan, Illinois.
That's a good slate.
Good slate.
I think this upcoming weekend is the best slate, though.
Yeah, it's going to be great.
It's going to be great.
All right, numbers.
Five.
Seven.
PFT memes, you ever gotten this? great. It's going to be great.
All right, numbers. Five.
Seven. PFT and memes, have you ever gotten this?
No.
11.
No.
Three.
Memes hasn't gotten it anywhere, and that's not talked about enough.
That's a good point, Matt.
It's not talked about enough.
Yeah, that's more impressive.
No, you've never.
What's the guy's number that got the big hit tonight?
Stott?
99.
I don't know
that's alright numbers are stupid
I'll go 23
Hank what'd you guess
7
47
47 see everyone on Wednesday love you guys 47 47
See everyone on Wednesday
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