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And, boys, it is officially the best month of sports because, holy shit, was Thursday night awesome. We had playoff baseball drama.
We had an incredible Thursday night football game. Kirk Cousins is back.
It's Kirktober. You remember that? It's Kirktober.
I feel like we should start with the playoff baseball just because, nah, let's do football. That was an awesome game.
I can't believe the Bucs blew it. And Kirk Cousins threw for the most yards in Atlanta Falcons history.
Yeah. 509? Yeah, the Falcons have become the Seahawks.
Everything that the Seahawks have been for the last 10 years, I feel like it's just utter chaos anytime the Falcons take the field. Their last four games have been all insane going down to the end.
I do think they play the Seahawks, too, in two weeks, which is going to be just a fun game. That'll be fun.
That'll be a fun game. Kirk is the first player in NFL history with a 450-yard passing game for three different teams now.
Wow. With the Commies, the Vikings, and now with the Falcons.
And he did the Taylor Swift dance after. Yeah, he did.
The one about swagging and surfing. Yeah, he did swagging and surfing.
It was nice to see Kirk just like, for some reason, at the start of every game and at the end of every game, Kirk Cousins has been awesome this year. Yeah, it looked like the Bucs had that game.
They had that game. All they needed to do was not have.
they had two times where they had that game because they had the fumble, who was a Bucky Irving fumbled, where if he just goes down and they get a field goal, maybe it changes it or get one first down to win the game. Then they have the penalty, the holding penalty.
It backs them out of field goal range where all they needed was a first down. After the Fal which i think was correct go for it on fourth and 15 yes and that's why you go for it yeah because you know listen they didn't get it but you knew that you needed at least you needed a stop no matter what whether it be a punt it and you need to stop or you go for it on fourth and 15 and they and they uh you don't get it you're gonna need to stop at least hold them goal.
But, yeah, that was an incredible game. The Falcons, like the last play, just broken tackles everywhere.
Feels like the Bucs just ran out of gas. Their offense stalled out in the second half after an explosive first half.
And, fuck, man, whenever we get a good Thursday night football game, it's like bonus football. Yeah, Al Michaels woke up tonight.
Yeah. Even Al had a good time.
yeah that that possession that you talked about when the bucks got it back it was after the uh the fourth and 15 play maybe raheem morris is a secret genius because he had kirk throw an interception that was basically as good as a really really shitty punt yeah and then they shanked punt a shanked punt then they got the ball the bucks got the ball with one minute 41 seconds left in It was on the 28-yard line. And then they somehow backed up out of field goal range.
Had to punt it. Punt goes through the end zone because of the field position they got from going for it on fourth and 15.
Sometimes it's the right move. Yeah.
Just say, fuck it. You know what? Let's try to get it.
We have a lot of plays in our playbook for fourth and 15. It was the right move in that situation because, again, you, if, if you punt there, you're going to need to stop regardless.
And, uh, like I just give yourself a chance to maybe get a first down there. They didn't get it, but they still, they still won the game.
We should give some credit to Mike Evans to had a hundredth touchdown tonight. He's, he is going to go down.
We, we, we did this all last year, but to remind everyone, if Mike Evans plays another four years at this level he's gonna go down like top five six in touchdowns and uh receiving yards he's just so consistently awesome uh mike evans deserves all the credit in that respect uh but yeah kirk cousins that last drive i and i'll say this too the. The fourth and 15, Kirk Cousins.
That was the interception, right? Yep. Didn't throw it in front of the sticks.
That's true, yeah. That's it.
He didn't check down. He didn't check down.
He was like, fuck it. I need a first down.
I need 15 yards. We're not going to check this down.
Good job, Kirk Cousins. Kirk might not agree with the science behind this,

but he is evolving. Yeah.

It was, ah, man, what a fun

game. I mean, the first half was just an absolute

shootout. I don't

know what happened to the Bucs' offense in the second half

because it did just kind of sputter. All

they needed was if they had just scored

a single touchdown in the second half

instead of getting two field goals, they'd win

this game in regulation. Well, also, maybe if Raheem Morris had tried to kick a field goal at the end of the first half yeah true it was so fun that was such a fun game of football yeah i love i love football i love football it's the best it's the best sport in the world yeah and then we had uh opposite the football was pete alonso being the hero that the mets have always wanted.
That they always knew was inside him. Thankfully, Mets fans never gave up on Pete.
He was, I mean, he strikes out there and he's definitely not a Met next year. And now I feel like you can't, you have to give him all the money.
So it's just based off a home run. It's very hard to get something trending within the span of one baseball at bat.
But double play was trending whenete alonzo got up to play because everybody thought okay here comes the season ending double play from pete alonzo goes oppo with it he was sitting on a change up also credit was it lindor that had the at bat before him yeah i'll say this about that lindor let off the inning lindor let off the inning and you know what it was a great piece of hitting i mean lindor's he walked wait yeah no but it was a great but it was a great piece of hitting. I mean, Lindor's a...
He walked. Wait.
Yeah. Did he walk? No, but it was a great piece of hitting, Max.
He fought. Learned ball.
It was a great at bat. Lindor's awesome.
I mean, Lindor's just awesome. And now Max has to be...
So the craziest stat, which I still don't believe because I've been playing baseball for fucking ever, that was the first time someone hit a down, hit a go-ahead home run in the ninth inning of an elimination game. Yeah.
That's ninth inning or later. Yeah.
Isn't that crazy, Max? Not elimination game. I thought you guys did that.
Not elimination game. No, eliminate? I thought it was elimination game.
No, it's winner take all. Yeah, whatever.
It's elimination. Yeah, but no, one team could be eliminated and not have winner-take-all.
Oh, yeah, well, you know what I mean. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
I'm not talking about game six. I'm saying, yeah.
Got it. Yeah, double elimination game.
Yeah, yeah. No, it's never happened before.
It's a crazy stat. When they said it, we couldn't believe it.
Well, it's basically only game three, game five, or game seven. Correct.
What was the big moment in the Cubs?

It was Raji Davis.

It was the eighth inning, and they tied it.

Okay.

They tied it.

Joe Carter was in game six.

And there have been.

But that wasn't a winner-take-all.

Right.

Well, no, that was game six.

But that wouldn't count for the stats.

Correct.

Yeah.

And there have been base hits that have taken a team from losing to winning in the ninth inning of a winner-take-all game that weren't home runs, but never just a dinger. It's crazy.
Yeah. It's a crazy stat.
They've been playing baseball for fucking 7,000 years, but I guess they didn't really have – they only played – isn't that crazy that they used to just have the World Series? Yeah. You'd win the pennant? If you won the pennant, it was a huge deal.
Yeah, you were just in the World Series. But now, the Mets, Team of Destiny.
The Dodgers would have loved that format. Yeah, people are mad that we keep calling the Mets Team of Destiny because their payroll is very big.
That doesn't – it doesn't – Team of Destiny. I know the Tigers are also – they're the AL Team of Destiny.
But the Mets, the way they keep winning games is ridiculous.

And they just like, like Max has been saying it for weeks now.

Like he'll just see a hit that will get fielded by the shortstop.

People like that would have gone through for the Mets.

Yeah.

That's the kind of stuff that's going through his head now.

The Oh My God song too.

They've got their own song that their own player made.

Yeah. It's pretty good.
It's pretty good vibe for the Mets. They've got their own song that their own player made.
Yeah.

It's pretty good.

It's a pretty good vibe for the Mets.

I think Pitbull's coming out of the remits.

Is he really?

Pitbull.

It's very hard to get America to root for the Mets.

Really, any team from New York, it's tough to get coast to coast.

Okay, this is a fun team behind them.

But yeah, Max, I feel like most neutral observers are going to be like,

these Mets are fun.

Are you afraid? People aren't rooting for Mets. I don't give a shit about that.
Are you afraid? What people think, I don't care. No, not about that.
I don't think there's ever a team people can root for from New York, like outside of New York. I'm saying that people are going to look at the Mets.
In this series, I think people are going to look at the Mets and be like, that's a fun team. I guess, but it's not.
I guess. Yeah.
But you're afraid because they're playing great baseball right now. The Phillies are better than the Mets at every aspect of the game.
They have a better lineup. They have a better starting pitching.
They have a better bullpen. Doesn't matter.
But. Doesn't matter.
But. But they're just the team right now.
I know. The Phillies have been that team in the past, and it ran out of juice.
So I'm just hoping that the day off tomorrow kills the juice. Oh.
What happens if the Mets wake up on Saturday and the juice is still there? Then it's trouble. I think it's going to go five.
I think it's going to go five and with my track record I probably you're going to fly to New York street stream it five with me Phil me Phil and Frank in my face and it's just going to be probably going to freak out going to be another screenshot that'll live on forever. Yeah.
Frank's going to tell you nine times the Mets have lost already and they're going to win. I suck and I'm going to freak out.
There's going to be another screenshot that will live on forever. Frank's going to tell you nine times the Mets have lost already.
They're going to win. They're going to suck, and I'm going to keep telling them to shut up.
There's going to be multiple moments where you and Frank are doing the same thing, and we can be like, yeah, early onset Fleming. Yeah.
I mean, it's going to go five. Should we get you some glasses? The Phillies are going to go up 2-1.

I'm going to be comfortable.

I'm going to be like, okay, we're going to win this.

It's all good.

We're going to get past the Mets.

We're going to be up in game four,

and then the Mets are going to have a heroic comeback in game four,

and then game five they're just going to smoke us, and it'll be like 4-0 Mets in game five.

That's how it's going to go.

Wow. I hope that doesn't happen to you.
Memes, you're a Mets fan. How are you feeling? I'm fired up.
Yeah? I was freaking out. You're going to take down Maxie? I don't know.
We already agreed to watch it in separate rooms. Oh, what? I don't agree.
I don't agree. Now, is that to preserve the relationship? Yeah.
Sunday, we're going to be streaming all day Sunday. You guys have to watch it in the same room.
What's going on? He leaned up to the mic to say something. Wait, hold on.
I have a question. Is this more for you, Max, or for for memes I feel like it might be more for Max because memes is low-key like would get physical I don't think it would ever get no it wouldn't get physical I just don't want it to be awkward and uncomfortable and I don't want to what are you what we I think we just yell at each other yeah it's one thing like Hank's a piece of shit I deal with Hank and then I know he's a piece of shit and I can walk away being thing like Hank's a piece of shit.
I deal with Hank. And then I know he's a piece of shit.

And I can walk away being like, there's a piece of shit.

Memes is like we sit next to each other.

And we work together.

And we're kind of like partners back here.

Oh, no.

But the tension would be great.

Sounds like it would be a great viewing experience.

Sounds like it's something that people want to see.

You guys are content producers, right? Thinking about good content to produce. Oh, that's a good point, Hank.
Yeah. You shouldn't have said this on the air.
Yeah. Okay.
Think about it. Think about it.
If it weren't you two. Okay.
If it was two other people on this podcast and they were exactly like you guys, you would probably want those clips, right? Correct. Say if PFT and I were playing in the NFC Championship game, we're like, we love each other.
No, but me and Big Cat. Or if you guys were playing in the NCAA tournament.
He went to the game. He had to go to a wedding, you idiot.
You know about weddings. Dumb-dumb.
Big Cat, if you and I were playing against each other in the NFC, we'd probably watch it in separate rooms and not really have any cameras on to preserve our relationship. No, yeah.
That would be an acceptable answer. No one would ever.
Yeah, People wouldn't needle us the whole time and it wouldn't be the most stressful thing of our lives. It wouldn't be like going back to Rajay Davis when the Cubs won the World Series and Dave showed up to Game 7 in a full Cleveland Indians uniform.
You know that he doesn't actually care. Yeah, but still.
I deal with that stuff. For some reason, Hank, I don't know.
I think we should put it up to a vote. I think we should ask the listeners if they would like to see Max and memes.
Yeah, they can cut it. We will have no idea.
Real quick, do an ad in the middle of the segment. We'll have literally no idea.
If you can hear this, they didn't cut it. Help us.
We'll give you Sunday. I'm all asking for Sunday.
I'm not asking for Tuesday or Wednesday.

Sunday's a deal.

We have a Tuesday.

What?

I want Tuesday.

You want Tuesday?

All right.

Hank wants Tuesday.

Saturday.

Saturday.

Fine.

Game one's fine.

I have a question, Max.

Yeah.

When are you going to put on the Phillies overalls that you got?

Not.

You have to.

That's not game one.

You said it was a must win.

Wait.

Fact of fiction. You said it was a must win.
But it's not game one. It's have to game one you said it was a must win wait fact of fiction you said it was a must win but it's not game one it's not a game one but it's a must win correct but it's not important enough to put it sounds like it's not a must win then it's not game one are you gonna watch at a bar at home it's a good question i've been a bar is tough because it's college football saturday because like no bar is going to be like giving the baseball game any i bet hank hank knows some bars that don't play college football a really shitty bar with like a bartender wears suspenders and makes a drink that you're absolutely not going to hate.

My best case scenario is finding a bar that no one wants to go to.

All right, so Saturday, you guys are fine to watch a part.

Sunday, we're going to be streaming.

That's fine.

You guys just sit on opposite sides of the road.

Okay, yeah, that's good.

That's good.

That's good.

And then Tuesday, we can do this couch.

Tuesday, we can do this couch. We'll just do clips.
We can couch. Yeah.
Yeah, because we're going to record after. Okay.
But not the couch. Oh, Maxie, are you afraid of getting bing-bonged, Maxie? I always get bing-bonged.
No, it's literally just that. It's the Villanova game that we watched with Shane Gillis here that has him like.
Why wouldn't we watch in the cave? This room has him bothered. I don't win in any room.
There's no good room. Every room ends in disaster for me.
And it always ends in like. Oh, should we watch outside? We don't have it.
Where are we? Where is somewhere? PFC's roof. Yeah, we can watch on my roof.
That's outside.

There's no room.

Max is not allowed inside.

Max is an outside cat.

Just lay a little tray of snacks out for him, a saucer of milk.

I will say Saturday morning is going to come.

I'm going to be like, Phil's in three.

Yeah, of course.

Of course.

You're scared right now.

The Mets are playing.

Baseball is the craziest sport where it's just like,

if you're hot at the right time, you can just ride it. it i mean last year we saw it with the diamondbacks and the rangers uh we do have so the other three series the padres uh it's not a sweep you can't say it's a sweep it's a two game sweep yeah but would you say two games are a sweep you have to i think you have to if it think you have to.
If it's a series and the other team doesn't win.

I just think they won the series.

Do we see any fans that brought brooms to the game?

I'm not sure.

I just don't feel comfortable winning two games a sweep.

I think you just have to say a two-game sweep.

Yeah.

So the Padres made quick work of the Braves.

Hank and I have futures on the Padres.

We're rooting for the Padres. We're all on board.
Pods, baby. Wait, when did you guys get Padres futures? I did mine late.
A month and a half ago. Dumb.
He's had his for a while. Fuck.
I wish I knew that you guys still had it. I literally did it the worst time.
I got my Padres future in, like, I want to say mid-August. And I cashed out to put it on Travis Hunter for Heisman, which, by the way, is a great bet because he's an Austin.
Travis Hunter, if we haven't mentioned, I don't know if you've heard us say it before, but Travis Hunter is, they have a bye week this week, so people are probably going to forget it. I'm not going to forget it.
We're not going to forget Travis Hunter. Because I'm going to be thinking about, he's the Heisman Trophy winner.
I'm going to be watching the Padres play baseball and I'm going to be like, you know what, that future I cashed out on, I'm actually happy that I did because I invested it. I made money, now I'm rolling that over, invest in Travis Hunter.
He's not getting injured this weekend. No, he's bye week.
He's getting healthier. So, yeah, the Padres play the Dodgers.
The Tigers, which are the other – that's the other great story in these playoffs. I mean, what was it? What is it? Like 0.2% chance to make the playoffs in August? And any team that beats the Astros gets a special place in everyone's heart.
I haven't forgotten. No.
A lot of people have forgotten. No.
Not me. I'm not going to forgive.
Never forget. I'm not going to forget because they ducked out.
They lucked out during the COVID year. Correct.
Where they didn't have fans there to give them shit. But, yeah, the Tigers, they're among the lowest payrolls in baseball, which is crazy.
They're the youngest team in Major League Baseball. Let's look up payrolls.
And also, let's look up how much younger the Tigers are than every other team. Yeah, and then we had...
So it's the AL Central and the Yankees in the AL playoffs now because the Royals beat the Orioles through the Orioles. Listen, you got to score more than one run in two games.
I'd like to retract what I said about maybe America finding the Mets fun to

root for just looking at their payroll.

Yeah.

That's see,

that's where I draw a line.

It's like,

they're not fun to root for,

but you have to,

they undoubtedly have team of destiny vibes.

And I don't think payroll matters for team of destiny.

Me was also right.

He said like a lot of the guys who are playing are not big money guys.

Correct. Like their, their top players are pennies on the dollar.
Right. All right.
So go scroll down. Scroll down.
This is actually awesome. So the Royals are the 20th payroll.
The Guardians are the 23rd payroll and the Tigers are the 26th.'s awesome so the the the entire uh al central still still alive in the playoffs everyone who made it from the al central and now they got to take down the yankees and yankees fans are cocky right now uh we got to look up and see how much money we owe gary sinise's foundation for paul skeins yes i think it's a decent amount i think it's a lot a lot memes. We looked at memes just said that Josh Hader, who blew the game for the Astros, makes more money than the entire payroll of the Tigers.
I love those. I love those.
By the way, did you guys see that? That sounded like a Revell tweet. Did you guys see he has a guy? Yeah.
So Revell has a guy who monitors the internet for him at all times and he sends him emails of like hey here's stuff that people are talking about on twitter emails are interesting stuff text is uh something that you should attend to pretty quickly and then there's a uh agreement that if a phone call happens it's something like woe's retiring he said something or that's the biggest thing that's imagine being revels guy i would love to see examples of times where his guy has emailed him something and revels like this should have been a text yeah yeah you know this yeah wait the guy that that caught shohei otani's 45th home run this year uh was esc out by security? That's a call. You have to call me that.
That's a call. That's absolutely a call.
What a night of sports, though. What a night of sports.
October's the best. Do you think his guys— And we started—what is it, memes? Today is the first day.
We have 57 days in a row of football? 55. Unbelievable.
Yeah. We're truly living in the best times, boys.
It is the best. So don't take it for granted.
Just remember where we were back in June and July. We would have sucked a dick for one football game.
And now we have football and playoff baseball. Do you think Ravel's guy calls him on the morning of November 22nd and is like, hey, just a quick reminder, you have to put JFK's brains on the time.
Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely. And MLK Day gets a, hey, here's all your memorabilia.
No, MLK, you have to go to his house. The guy has to go to his door, knock on his door, and be like, hey, remember, today is the day that you prove how un-racist you are.
Yeah, yeah, many. You ever do Mount Rushmore in months? Yeah, I think we did.
That's what I was just trying to look at. October's great.
October's 1-1. Okay, Mr.
fucking summer boy. October is 1-1.
October's so good. October has everything.
I've become more of an October boy. What about June? I've always been an October boy.
What about June? June can fucking take a hike compared to October. I kind of stand with Donnie on Jaloon.
The month that he made up, it goes from June 15th to July 15th. And there's also all four sports.
All four sports. The weather is perfect.
It's just the best. Halloween.
The funnest holiday. Halloween is the funnest holiday.
What? You don't think so? I'm a Thanksgiving guy myself I like Thanksgiving more than Halloween In terms of funnest though Actually I shouldn't say that Did you say St. Patrick's Day? I was going to say Memorial Day That's the funnest holiday? Memorial Day weekend is the best weekend of the year.
Hank? No.

Start of the summer?

July 4th.

So wait.

But July 4th is like summer's almost over.

No, it's not.

Memorial Day weekend is the Friday night of the summer.

I hate people like you, Max, that say the 4th of July is the end of summer.

We each get three picks.

We each get three picks.

Quick Mount Rushmore.

I said I hate people like you, Max, that say that the 4th of July is the start of the

end of summer.

No, that's me. That's how I believe it.
Hit the fast word. All right, you ready? Mount Rushmore.
Months. I'll take October 1st.
We'll go round snake draft, three picks each. Well, I'm going to lose because I'm making last.
All right, you go second. No, you get the snake.
Hank's going to lose. Watch me.
Okay, October. I'm going to go September.

I will go June.

I will take July and May.

Okay.

I will take March.

Shit. I love March.
I will take March. Shit!

I love March.

March is my favorite.

June and July both off the calendar, huh?

Still one summer month, it seems.

I'm going to take November.

That's what I would have taken.

All right, I'll take...

It's on my list.

Fuck.

I'll take December, holidays, just getting drunk. Fuck.
What's left? Do I go August or is April still there? April's on the board. The Masters.
Hello, friends. Yeah.
March Madness. Weather churns.
I'll take April. I'm taking August.
It's fine. It's hot january or february the last two right yeah it's an easy pick is it easy yes it's shorter it doesn't feel as bad no i think february is last february is definitely last january you get the playoffs every single weekend like every weekend of january is fun because you've got meaningful important playoff football game i disagree no i agree there's one month of the year that people agree to go sober and that's january that that was no good job max no sometimes sometimes you do so many years have you gone sober in january he didn't say he did it i didn't say no one has you like everyone wrong no one no one does that a lot of people a lot of people do that.
A lot of people do that.

All right.

And you also get President's Day weekend in February.

That doesn't matter.

You can go skiing.

Okay.

All right. So recap.

Memes.

Have Shane make your graphic.

Also, funnest holiday is January 1st.

College football playoffs.

NFL playoffs.

No, no, no.

January 1st is one of the most depressing days of the year. Besides football, it year's eve stinks i think new year's eve is a terrible holiday but here's what you do on new year's eve no even when i was younger than you Hank you're old when you go out to a bar on new year's eve what you do is you pay a hundred dollars to go to the crowdest bar that you've ever been in in your life then you have to wait about 45 minutes to get a beer and then the beer is really small and then you have to go to the backest bar that you've ever been in in your life.
Then you have to wait about 45 minutes to get a beer. And then the beer is really small.
And then you have to go to the back of the line, try to find the bathroom, then get back in line and go back to the bar and wait for another 30 minutes. It's a bad holiday.
What were your picks? So Shane's got to make the graphic. I had.
Well, I mean, we got fucked. You guys got the first two picks and we got the last two picks.
I actually think I bottled my first pick, so I gave you guys. You did with September.
Yeah, I was bottling. September.
You had to go back to school. Yeah, that was a mid-round.
It's kind of like in the middle of like. Put footballs back.
Yeah, but it's kind of in the middle of like, is it hot? Is it cold? I got July, May, January. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Oh, that's it. Yeah.
Well, that's why we couldn't do... That's why the draft is going to be lopsided, because there's only three...
We only could do three each. Yeah.
Not a true Mount Rushmore. Yeah.
We'll still make a graphic. Yeah, what was yours? I did June, March, February.
That's tough. February's bad.
When January was on the board. I had September, November, and August.
I like November. November's good, dude.
Thanksgiving? Thanksgiving rocks. I had October, December, April.
December's a fun month because no one gives a fuck. You easily won.
I guess we'll see. I'm pretty good at these.
It's not a Mount Rushmore. It was good.
There's a little bonus for us right now out of nowhere. It was also a fun Mount Rushmore bonus of having PFT have the whole calendar except October and just going September.
And we all were we all were like what honestly the real reason i picked it is because i had a great september oh there's literally a song that says wake me up when september it's true oh okay cool so we're gonna we're gonna base all of our takes on billy joe lyrics yeah okay that's fair okay definitely uh Okay, anything else? We also great song by earth wind and fire do you remember the 21st night of september buddy yeah um do we have anything else that was just a fun night of sports i'm buzzing off sports you guys feel the same way october's very own what what'd you say october's very own october's very own you know that is no drink oh all right we don't we don't we don't we're kendrick guys over here i know but you're not told you're you're not like us that's a fact but. But you picked October.
I'm going to fuck him up. All right, let's kick it to ourselves for a preview.
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Week five. We have bye weeks.
London. Bye weeks are here.
London is here. I'm going to say right now it's not my favorite slate in the fact that there are some tough games to pick.
But I do love the setup that we have a morning game in London. We have six games in the first slate, four games in the second slate, and a Sunday night football.
That is perfect amount of football watching where you can actually watch every game and not just be like, oh, eight, nine games at noon and we're just everywhere and don't know what's going on. I love how this day tapers out it's a good mix for sure yeah i hate it when there's all the games in the early slate and then we just get three and then two of them are stinkers in the afternoon i think it's set up for good day football i like the england game the first time it happens because it's something different it's something new and you get breakfast and football which is wonderful uh are we going to get the simulcast with like the toy story animated character animated character? I don't think so.
Shit like that. I don't think that's this week.
You remember when they had animated booger in the booth discussing the game? That was awesome. This is going to be fun, though, because I think the Vikings are undefeated in London, right? Yes, we have Jets at Vikings.
I think the Vikings are 3-0. 3-0 there.
Both teams did the stupid thing, and they're traveling on Thursday, practicing on Friday. They should have gone early in the week, but time zones, remember.
Vikings are going further. Vikings are going a little bit further, and they're going one hour further, too.
Yeah. So this is the ultimate East Coast game for the Vikings, who haven't been to England since the year 1065.
Yeah, Vikings, by the way, have only been trailing this season for three minutes and 26 seconds. That's pretty crazy.
Also, the crazy part is that was week one against the Giants when they were down 3-0. So they have been dominating everyone.
I feel like this might be where you have to try to start fading him.

Now, the Jets have a lot going on.

We have Cadence Gate.

Memes is back.

I'd like Memes to maybe address Cadence Gate because after the game on Sunday,

Aaron Rodgers said we'll just have to go.

Maybe it's on them.

Salah then said, what was his exact quote? I think he I think he said, there's no problem and there's no cadence issue. Yeah, there's no cadence issue, which means there's definitely a cadence issue.
Memes. There's a cadence issue with the Jets right now.
I don't think there's a cadence issue. What do you mean? There's just not one.

That's just how he plays.

What about their false starts, though?

This is just an outlier from the first four weeks

because the first three were fine.

Now, week four, the problem.

Here's Salah's exact quote.

He sounds like Danny Boy Kane right now.

There is no cadence issue.

There never was a cadence issue.

It was created.

At no time did I get attacked by a cadence. If I got attacked by a cadence, I'd be hightailing out of here like Carl Lewis.
And also, just on the record, Aaron Rodgers never had swine flu. We don't know that.
He's been immunized. Yeah, that's true.
Memes, this reminds me when you have Aaron Rodgers saying one thing, Robert Salah saying the other. Kind of reminds me of a little trip to egypt no do you think aaron rogers is going to stop by the british museum and see all the egyptian artifacts that that he didn't get to see while he was in cairo yeah i think during minicamp he'll probably go on a little fact-finding tour figure out what's going on princess kate too do you think do you think they could have probably figured out the cadence during minicamp that's that might be an issue they have worked on together.
Yeah. So, memes, this cadence issue, it's an issue.
Or are you saying that what Florio, or sorry, Salah said, there is no cadence issue. There never was a cadence issue.
It was created. Is that Salah talking? Or is that one of your many Florios maybe taking it out of context, even though he was very clear saying there's no cadence issue, there never was a cadence issue.
No, that's clearly Bob. That's Bob? That's Bob.
You're out on Bob. I've noticed.
Now that you're not calling him Robert? Yeah, I'm out on Bob. Bob Sala? Now, the question is, is Rodgers out on Bob? No, they're still good.
I think it's week to week. There was a video after the Patriots game where they hugged immediately, but they never put that out.
Ah, there's where the Florios come in. Because Jets PR, they should have put that out immediately, but instead they just waited to put in the YouTube episode of One Jets Drive and just never put it out online.
They didn't show the hug. The very dishonest media not telling the full picture about that.
No, you got to get that out, clip it, put it out immediately they love each other yeah look at this hug they clearly love each other so memes let me ask you this though aaron rogers knee is that an issue that i believe that's an issue that is an issue got a swollen knee and i don't think that a long plane ride helps with swollen knees let me ask you another question memes is there so davante adams, obviously in the news, wants to be traded. A lot of teams have said, you know, I saw the Chiefs are obviously in the market, but they're not going to probably do it in division.
There was the Steelers. The Cowboys came out and said they're not interested.
Thank you, Cowboys. No one asked you.
Well, they don't have any money left over. Yeah, but that was very Jerry Jones to be be like hey we're not interested we didn't fucking ask it'd be very funny though if jerry jones just a week after saying like we wanted derrick henry but couldn't get him because we're poor yeah and he's like yeah you know what a big name wide receiver we'll make it happen yeah saints dark horse devante adams derrick carr fresno state and then you have the jets where everyone thinks he will eventually end up.
Is there a possibility, memes, that Devontae Adams trading for Devontae Adams is kind of like having a kid to save the marriage? Just add another guy. We'll be fine.
Just add another guy and we'll be fine. This will make Aaron happy.
This finishes off Aaron's wish list. This will change my wandering eye to other coaches if I have Devontae Adams.
Just get me Devontae Adams, and I swear to God, I'll never bring up Cadence again. And if you get Devontae Adams, you could get yourself Aaron Rodgers for a couple more years.
Okay. Oh, interesting.
Because he'll be happy? He'll be happy. What about Robert Salah? He won't have many years.
Okay. Memes, do you want Aaron Rodgers for another four years? Yes.
Okay. Okay.
Quarterback is just the worst. He's off to his worst start in his career.
We had a tough schedule. Okay.
That's true. Tough schedule.
Alright, so how are you feeling about this game? I'm nervous. The Vikings are the best team in the NFL.
Sam Darnold, potential revenge game, even though we already had it one time. But it's a bounce back.
There won't be any rain. And the Jets normally.
Whoa, there won't be any. It's in London.
There won't be any rain? No, not on Sunday morning. It's in London, England.
Well, the game's not on Sunday morning. Sunday afternoon.
Yeah. Sunday morning here.
england well the game's not on sunday morning sunday afternoon yeah sunday morning here okay but the game's not we're here the game's in london excuse me sunday afternoon in london there won't be rain are we sure positive so the thing about that stadium it's at tottenham stadium right i'm gonna look it up right now it's at the hotspur stadium and the way that thing is set up

they've got an opening in the roof above the field so all the fans you don't get rained on if you're

a fan but the field will get slick it's the same field that last year i think the bills said it was

like playing on fucking cement i think that's the direct quote it was not good so what they do is

the nfl we know the nfl first and foremost protected shield they care about player safety

100 paramount to them so when they send teams over to england to play on grass soccer fields

We'll be right back. first and foremost protected shield they care about player safety 100 paramount to them so when they send teams over to england to play on grass soccer fields what they do is they have them remove the grass soccer field and install uh field turf so they're gonna be playing on a slick stadium maybe or a slick field okay chance of precipitation on sunday at tottenham stadium is no, 50%.
That feels like it could be rain. Could be rain, but 50% chance.
Just 50% of the area. True.
True. Good point, memes.
Only half the field will get rained on. Good point, memes.
Half the area. Half the area.
We just got to hope our area doesn't get wet. I think what really all cadence, rain, Salah, Devontae Adams, all that aside, I think the thing that's scary to you and should be is that the Vikings defense is a fucking monster unit right now, and Brian Flores has them playing incredible ball, and you have a quarterback who who has a gimpy leg he has a gimpy leg but he is a 20-year veteran so he might be able to find the holes yeah where to exploit the defense when you said that you've played a a tough schedule where did the Broncos at home fall in that one good question PFT and also the Patriots at home while you're talking about it.
The Broncos were number two hardest.

Broncos defense is good.

Yeah, they are.

They're the only team that blitzes more than the Vikings, I think.

And that didn't go well.

No, it did not.

Cadence.

Patriots were humming off two games.

They won one, went to overtime with Seahawks.

They were humming.

Yeah, I would agree.

That was a humming Patriots that you faced. Titans, Will Levis, most electric player in sports.
Yeah. So you played the Titans, the Patriots, the Broncos.
Yeah. When he says tough schedule, he's meaning they've started the season with the 49ers.
Yeah. And Robert Salah and Nathaniel Hackett are your coaches, so that's just tough in, too.
So I'm in a tough spot with the Vikings because I do believe the Vikings are very good. Also, Memes, can you do me a favor and find on Grit Week, we did our NFL Futures, and I believe I picked the Vikings over 6.5, and Max laughed in my face.
It's 100%. Can you find that video for me? This is wrong.
I picked the Vikings under six and a half, and you laughed in my face. You laughed in my face.
So can we find that video real quick? I just want to watch that. You can just find it, and we'll put it up.
But anyway, I believe in the Vikings. I think they're a very good team.
I just, in the back of my head, I'm like, at some point, they'll have a stinker, and I don't want to be involved when they do yeah you don't want to miss on and i don't know if it's this week because this does feel like it's the vikings have been underdogs they've been underdogs i think three out of the four games they've they've won outright obviously three out of four or they've won all their games they're now favorites the jets look Jets look like shit's going on. Old quarterback, tough knee.
Everything says Vikings. That's why I might take the Jets.
So I kind of agree with that, where it's the Vikings off a big win against the Packers. They dominated the first half, but Grenard said that they're actually, in film study, they're treating this as a loss.
Oh, I love that. They're just pretending that they lost last week to the Packers because the second half was so bad i love that so i like that too i but i do agree that if you're just looking at trends and the jets after losing that that 10-9 game at home to the broncos they can't look any worse than they did last week everybody has a fresh memory of how bad the jets were everyone has a fresh memory of how good the vikings were right this seems like the right time to flip it on everybody.
Yeah. So that's what you got going for you right now, Memes.
The flip. Yeah, and historically with Bob's Law teams, lose to the Broncos in a horrible fashion, one of the worst games of all time.
Yeah. Beat the best team in the NFL next week.
The best team in the NFL. Are you crowning the Vikings? Yes.
Chiefs, not? No. Oh, okay.
The three Super Bowls wasn't enough? No, that was last year. Okay.
All right. All right.
Fair, fair, fair, fair. Okay.
This is a crazy stat I came across. So when Darnold is targeting Justin Jefferson under the blitz, when they blitz Darnold, he's nine for nine, 227 yards, two touchdowns, no picks, and a perfect passer rating.
Justin Jefferson is the best wide receiver in the league, and it's not close. I agree.
I know that not close is a stupid thing to say. He has scored in every single game this year.
He is so goddamn good that it's—to me, it's not close right now. Thought experiment.
If Tyreek Hill was on the Vikings and Justin Jefferson was getting passes thrown to him

by Snoop Huntley, do you think we might be saying the same thing about Tyreek Hill?

No, I think Justin Jefferson would still be scoring somehow.

He's that good.

He's that goddamn good.

What were you going to say, Memes?

I just sent the video.

Oh, just play it on here.

I'd like to watch it.

Can I trust tree real quick? Because we're not right pretty much ever. I may have watched our Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold clip like 100 times.
It's so good to see, right? It's so good to see. Fucking nailed it.
The fact that it's those two guys and they're having these this year, it was just I need to stop because it's kind of fucking my head up where i'm like do i know ball so this is actually the perfect case of the jets versus the vikings we're high on ourselves because of our sam darnold and baker mayfield take so now is the exact time you should fade us correct we're reading our own press clippings which are also reported by ourselves yeah which you shouldn't So here's the clip of Max, dumb, dumb Max, saying that the Vikings were going to go under six and a half. You literally just said about how wrong you are.
Oh, you said under six and a half. Yes.
There's no audio. I know.
I'm getting to the part. Oh, okay.
Look at us. We're looking great.
Yeah, we look great out there

Grit week's the best. I want to do grit week again soon.
Maybe like next August got nice tans too. Yeah

Eagles under 10 and a half. Good job PFT.
Oh, no wait. I don't know what my pick was.
I think I flipped mine This is a problem. I don't know what my pick was

Here we go. They're unhappy with the coach already.
Nothing's going to work out in D.C. Nothing's going to work out in D.C.
Nothing's going to work out in D.C. Nothing's going to work out in D.C.
for the Eagles when we beat their ass. My pick for the under, don't clip that, Indianapolis Colts.
Oh, okay. I actually think the AFC South is going to be pretty good this year.
Jaguars bounce back. Oh.
Maybe sneaky. Yeah, sneaky.
Under 8.5 wins for the Colts. My pick is going to be the Seahawks, 7.5.
I don't think. Oh, hey.
You say under? Under. Under 7.5.
Yeah, all these picks suck. The Eagles is pretty good.
It's fine. 6.5 wins.
I think the division is going to be real. That's their line? Yeah.
I love that over. Okay.
I'm going to take the Vikings under six and a half wins. I think the division is going to be really tough.
They're going to have a rookie quarterback. I think it's going to be a rebuilding process.
Vikings aren't going to be there under six and a half for the Vikings. You didn't count on Sam Darnold.
Well, Sam Darnold wasn't going to start. So that was hit or miss for us.
All of us had bad picks. Listen, the Colts started 0-2.
If we had played this two weeks ago, I would look like a genius. Actually, Hank's under 7.5 for Seahawks.
Yeah, that's a bad pick. That's all right.
We're bad. Okay, let's go to the next game.
Ravens and Bengals. This one, I believe we can all agree, even though all of our teams are playing, that one should be middle sound.
Yes, I love this one. So we always forget to remind ourselves that Lamar Jackson really good against the NFC.
We should also remind ourselves Lamar Jackson 8-1 against the Bengals. Yes, he kind of owns the Bengals.
Did you guys see the thought starter that was floating around the internet this week, which I thought was very interesting, that Derrick Henry might be the last running back to go into the Hall of Fame, which was like, whoa, is that true? And then I started looking at it and it could be true. No, it's not true.
Okay, so different thoughts. So we'll say that's not true.
Here's a different one that I want to throw out there. Derrick Henry is 18 yards away from 10,000 yards.
He could be the last running back we see get 10,000 yards, which is crazy. Lamar.
Lamar is actually probably going to do it. But the list, Zeke is 1,000 yards away.
I don't know if Zeke has that much left. I wouldn't say that Zeke's a Hall of Famer.
No, to get 10,000 yards. Yeah.
Nick Chubb is at 6,500 yards. Obviously a bunch of injuries.
He'd probably have to play three or four more years at peak Nick Chubb. And then it goes to, like, Kamara, who's getting up there in age.
Christian McCaffrey, who the walls might have him retired. Saquon.
Like, how many more years is Saquon going to play? play four so if he plays four years and what is he he's he hasn't gone over a thousand and five yards 56 50 right now so he'd have to get he'd have to go over a thousand yards for those four years like it's kind of crazy to see the actual the the only answer that i'm looking at when i'm looking at all these is possibly jonathan Taylor because he Taylor because he's halfway there. He's only 25 years old.
If he just stays like a bell cow for another five years, he could get there. But it's nuts to look at and realize that Derrick Henry, when he gets to 10,000 yards, he'll be 32nd all time.
And we might not see a lot of 10,000 yards guys ever again. What about Bijan? Bijan doesn't get enough runs.
I know. Give Bijan the opportunity to get in the Hall of Fame.
The other crazy thing about Derrick Henry is if he – so he's 18 yards away from 10,000 yards. This is all just we should respect Derrick Henry more because it might be – it's the last of a dying breed.
He's 18 yards away from 10,000. He's five touchdowns away from 100.
If he gets 10,000 yards and 100 touchdowns, he'll only be the ninth guy ever in history to do it as a running back. And all the other eight guys are in the Hall of Fame.
So he's definitely going to be in the Hall of Fame if he hits that. Barry Sanders finished with 99 touchdowns.
Sean Alexander finished with 9,500 yards. I'm going to call my shot next Next running back after Henry into the Hall of Fame, Gentry.
Okay. From Boise State.
You're going to go that far? I'm going to go that far. Okay.
He's that good. I like that.
I like that. But no, I don't think he's going to be the last running back.
He benefited definitely from being in those Titans offenses for years, which the game plan was just let Derrick Henry eat. Yeah.
And let him cook the entire time. And you know what's the craziest part about Derrick Henry? His first two years in the league weren't like Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry.
His first year in the league in 2016, he had 490 yards and his second year he had 744 yards. So if they had started using him then, it's crazy though.
He's still so fast. it feels like the Ravens have figured out like hey we're not going to run the Titans offense we're not going to run him you know 35 times a game but we can run him in an effective way and this game comes down to me uh the Bengals defense is an atrocity right now a lot of it due to injury Trey Hendrickson might be out again, or he got injured.
He might be out. Their defensive line is a mash unit right now.
They're going to get guys back eventually, but I just feel like the Ravens are going to be able to run the ball down their throat. Joe Burrow is going to be in this game because the offense is not a concern, but I think it's just a bad time to have to play the Ravens.
The Ravens also are, according to Aaron Schatz, our friend, recurring guest, they are the second best team, 2-2 team of all time. Okay.
So 2-2 teams, obviously. So they're basically way better than their record says they are.
But that's kind of what we said even when they were 0-2. Yeah, of course.
But the stats back it up. I looked at the Ravens right now as being a 2-0 team.
Yeah. Their season started week three.
Are the Bengals one of the best 1-3 teams of all time? I think they might be, yeah, in the top 5%. I don't know if they would be because their defense is probably dinging them pretty bad.
It's pretty much that the Ravens have statistically won all four of their games, but they lost two of them. Now, did you see Jason Kelsey said that stats are numbers, numbers are nerds, nerds are for losers.
Oh, I like that. Yeah.
That's a good one. That's a good way of explaining the entire equation.
Yeah, he just dumbed it down. Well, yeah.
Well, Raheem Morris dumbed it down. He just said stats are for losers, but this shows us the steps in that equation to get there.
Yeah. Yeah, a number has never won a Super Bowl.
No. Think about it that way.
I want to take the Bengals because of the spot and desperation and all of that. I'm nervous that their defense is just going to get rolled over.
Their run defense, it's 31st in the league in run-stop-win rate. I don't know what that stat actually means, but that tells me that their defense can't stop the run, and that's what the Ravens want to do.
Also, we should appreciate Kyle Van Noy more. Kyle Van Noy, he is AFCc defensive player of the month yeah pretty wild right awl too awl he uh i saw him at the super bowl six sacks like keep doing what you're doing guys yeah yeah um this is gonna be a great game i'm very excited for this game i also think i'm gonna throw something out there you guys ready for this let's go on draft kings real quick i'm gonna look it up this one might be crazy but i'm just gonna say it and you guys can uh decide if if i'm stupid if this is if this is you know an idiotic thing to suggest but right now where is he where is he i'm looking for him joe burrow 22 to 1 to win mvp that's kind of wild he did have that locked in look this week he's all business at the press conference they would probably have to donation they would okay all right well then forget i said anything in my opinion if you guys can tell me if the bangles make the playoffs it would probably be because joe had his best season it would they probably would have to win the afc north that's the problem yeah is would probably have to win the AFC North.
So you're right in that Hank, that it would be a donation unless they win the AFC North. But I think they're off it.
He's going to, if their defense stays as bad as it is, he's going to have to play a style of football that is going to put up crazy numbers. They've got a couple hopes in this game.
One is the fact that, well they are 1-3, but the Ravens they're 2-2, so they're only one game away from them. Yeah, they're obviously two games back from the Steelers.
Yes, this would be a big win for the Bengals. Joe looked locked in, and also if Lamar gets his hands on Skyline Chili before the game, that butt is not holding up.
No, definitely not. I'd give it like a quarter.
Joe Burrow so far is 978 yards, seven touchdowns, one interception. Pretty damn good to start.

Pretty damn good to start.

So they have 67 points in the last two games, the Bengals do,

and they've got 36 plays gaining 10 yards or more,

which is the most a Bengals team has had in any two-game stretch

since Super Bowl season.

Starting to see it, Hank?

Yeah.

I guess it's – so the thing that I'm struggling with is

I think the Ravens are going to win this game. If you think the Bengals are going to win this game, you should take 22-1 right now.
Because it will go down if they win this game. Right? Like, if the Bengals win this game and they're now 2-3 and they beat the Ravens, I would imagine Joe Burrow's MVP odds on DraftKings would be like 15-1.
Yeah, they go up quite a bit. Right.
So, that would be the play. I'm going to call it must win for the Bengals.
Must win for the Bengals. Can't lose? Can't lose for the Ravens.
Can't lose for the Ravens. What are you going to say? I was just looking at MVP odds.
Did you take Jaden Daniels when I sent that the other day? No, I did not. It's gone.
It was at 65-1. Now it's 25.
I hate this whenever Max tries to just shoehorn in great Jaden Daniels stats in this podcast. I mean, all I tried to do was just tell you to take the bet.
Max, enough about Jaden. We know you love Jaden.
We know you think about him all the time. And you watch all his highlights, and then you say crazy stuff about him when the microphones are off.
I'm sick of it, Max, from you. I mean, that's such a jump.
He's sick of it. That was after the game.
I don't like hearing all these Jaden stats. I's sick of it.
I don't like thinking about the Super Bowls with Jaden. My bad, my bad.
All right, well, let's talk about that game, Browns and Commanders. PFT, I was thinking this was an easy bet on the Commanders, but something breaking news recently has made me switch my opinion.
Is it the picture of Jaden Daniels that he did with Mike Vick? It is not. Because for me, I saw the jersey exchange.
It was Jaden and Mike Vick signed each other's jerseys, held them up smiling. That makes me think that Swagger from Cleveland is going to have something to say about this game.
No. He's not going to like that.
Here's what made me change my opinion. Mad Dog, your producer for macrodosing uh tweeted out uh an hour ago whoever stole my buffalo chicken wrap from the chicago hq fridge i hope your football teams all lose this weekend and none of your bets hit now mad dog is a browns fan she is but she doesn't this iteration of the browns doesn't really do it for her i'll put it that way.
She is a Browns fan though. We have found the culprit.
The culprit is intern

Jacob who This iteration of the Browns doesn't really do it for her. I'll put it that way.
She is a Browns fan, though. Yeah.
We have found the culprit. The culprit is intern Jacob, who is a Commander's fan.
I disavow. That's tough.
The fact that they're playing each other and she said that. Well, he has to take Browns' money line.
That's nuts that that just happened. To have a theft in the office like that, which is savage behavior is savage behavior and then have the two the teams she's wishing that that person's teams lose all their games and it so happens that her team is going up against his team which is your team that's bad vibes i don't like it uh i'm gonna make jacob bet the browns money line because she said i hope all your bets lose yeah so the only way to combat this is to hope that he misses that one good point point.
I disavow Jacob. Mad dog, I will buy you sandwiches for the rest of the week.
No, I've already given my ruling. Jacob's buying her lunch all week next week.
Okay, that's fine. It's Friday.
Yeah. Yeah, I was including Saturday, Sunday.
But yeah, she's getting lunch all next week from Jacob. Okay, that makes me feel bad.
Also, if we're taking the logic that we had with the Vikings and the Jets, this would be the time to bet on the Browns, right? Yeah. Because the Commanders can't look any better than they have.
And the hook is just sitting there. The Browns can't look any worse.
Yeah. I think the Commanders win this game, but I think there's a chance the Browns might muck it up.
The Commanders have played not great defenses. The Browns are better than a not great defense.
Nick Chubb is back. I don't know if you...
The Browns are the worst vibe team in the NFL right now. Nick Chubb seems like an awesome dude.
When he came back to practice, everyone was pumped. But he's not going to play this weekend, right? No, but just being...
They have a three-week window to activate him off the pup. Being back at practice, though, everyone's like, what's up, 2-4? Oh, here comes Nick Chubb.b that's gotta help uh the browns are such a bad vibes team this tweet from greg rosenthal i i copied it because i was just like holy shit the browns are spending more cash in 2024 than any team in the nfl they're the league's second oldest team and they are dead last in total dvoa because of their number 32 ranked offense.
That is his most money, oldest,

b******. Second oldest team, and they are dead last in total DVOA because of their number 32 ranked offense.
That is most money, oldest, dead last. Yeah, especially when you consider that their defense should be good.
To be total DVOA in last place, it's terrible. It's very bad.
No, their offense is last in DVOA, which brings their whole rating down. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's what's crazy is their defense is good enough where you think that no matter how bad that offense is they'd still be you know like middle of the pack or so overall uh they've been very very tough to watch and you know how a couple weeks ago i think it was after maybe after the bucks game i said i get defensive of the commanders like they're my baby where i can call them ugly but then i get offended when other people say like oh your baby's ugly you're not allowed to say that i i've actually kind of reached the other end of it where now you've got people going so far over the top praising the commanders that i'm like it's kind of weird how much you love my baby chill out dude yeah so damien woody this week already proclaimed jayden daniels to be the best quarterback in the nfc yeah it's chill out man chill out chill out i i get to think that i don't get to say it out loud yet, but just know that I'm thinking it. I've actually said worse than that.
Way worse. And you said you would only trade him for Patrick Mahomes on the air, so that would mean that everyone in the NFC, he's better than.
No, that's for, like, future. Yeah, but he's better than.
The only quarterback you trade him for is an AFC quarterback. But that's taking into account the entire future.
Got it. Like right now, including the salary that we pay him.
But you'd understand the deductive reasoning there. I do understand the deductive reasoning.
However, I'm going to save. If we win this weekend, I'm going to say some reckless shit.
Okay. I'm going to say some very reckless stuff.
But it does feel like the time when the commanders are at their highest, the Browns are at lowest so i am nervous going into this week can i throw out one other thing and this is i i think it's different now because he's just the oc and not the head coach but we did have a narrative the last few years where we would always just bet on cliff kingsbury in september and then start fading up yep after october he's not he has a very everyone figures him out very bad record i don't know if that's going to be the case i don't think it is as a coordinator i he's a he's a guy that should just be a coordinator for life and be like the best coordinator agreed and he for whatever reason he develops great relationships with whoever his quarterback is they love him i'm partly saying this just so that no other team tries to hire him as a head coach. Yeah.
Which some other team will definitely try to do.

100%. But yeah, I'm not confident going into this weekend.
But I am excited because my days are better when I get to watch Jaden. Yes.
All right. Next game.
Colts and Jaguars. This week in Doug Peterson saying quotes that he doesn't realize are terrible to say out loud.
That we all look at him and like, huh? He said on Wednesday,

I... doesn't realize or terrible to say out loud that we all look at him and like, huh? He said on Wednesday, I, I have not lost the locker room when you have to say that.
Yeah. So a reporter asked, and he said, I would know.
I talked to those guys every day. I see them every day and no, I have not lost the locker room.
I know exactly where that locker room is. And there are guys in there that I talk to all the time.
So I can't have lost them. Right.
You see me wandering the halls, then you know I've lost the locker room. Maybe he's lost the front office.
Well, no. He and Shad Khan have great football conversations before and after every game this year.
That's great. So he's micromanaging you.
Yeah. Can I say something? I think even though we have Joe Flacco coming up and i love joe flacco i think this might be the get right spot for the jaguars so here's a fun stat uh the colts have not won a road game against the jaguars since when any guesses how long how many years has it been eight years longer 2014 whoa they have not they have not won in jacksonville since 2014 also tom coughlin this weekend is getting inducted into the jags ring of fame oh i love that which that provides a big boost for the jaguars they're going to show up early for the game also why the fuck isn't tom coughlin already in the jaguars ring of fame i don't know he should have been in there years, they might have just opened it.
That's true. Yeah, it feels like they just opened it.
I also think for this game specifically, in terms of slump busters for Trevor Lawrence, Gus Bradley is the perfect one because Gus Bradley is probably the poster child of the right place, right time. He was with the Seahawks as their defensive coordinator right at the start of the Legion of Boom when all those guys got drafted, then used that to get a head coaching job.
Then he was terrible as a head coach, and now he's been around everywhere. But those defenses with that talent, everyone's like, damn, this guy can coach.
Famously, Jalen Ramsey said, Gus Bradley never changes anything. Week one, the plays that we're calling are the same as week 17.
We don't change anything. We don't adjust.
We just run our defense. The Jaguars in the last four years have scored 24, 27, 31, 37 against Gus Bradley's defense.
I think this is where Trevor Lawrence is like, Hey, I know what they're going to do. I'm just going to get right.
Gus Bradley does not have a great record in Jacksonville either. Yeah.
Overall, that's a coach. Correct.
So as much as I love Joe Flacco, again, I'm rooting for Joe. I probably won't bet this game, but if I had to, gun to my head, I think I would go with the Jaguars.
So I like the Jaguars too just because that's 10 years. The Colts haven't won there in 10 years.
Last defeated team as well. Yes, that's true.
The last defeated team. I like the Jags this weekend, although I do think that Doug is going to be gone during the season.
Yeah. I think he might be a mid-season firing.
I mean, every single quote, he's basically writing the book for quotes that you don't want to hear from a head coach where he's like, yeah, we've had productive talks with the owner. No speeches.
No more speeches. No rah-rah.
That's a weird question that you'd ask about my seat being warm. Yeah.
I haven't lost a locker room. I haven't lost a locker room.
We can call the plays, but the players ultimately have to go out there and execute them. I would love to just hand a blind resume to Doug Peterson of these quotes he said in the last three weeks.
And he probably would look at it and say, whoa, that coach is in trouble. That guy's fired.
He's like, Doug, that's you. That guy's fired.
That's you, buddy. That's some Marvin Harrison, or not Marvin Lewis-esque conversation that he had right before he went out.
Yeah. Yeah, I think this is the weekend for the Jaguars.
Love the Jaguars this weekend, even though I don't think that they're as bad as their record says. I think that Trevor Lawrence played good enough last week where I can be like, I can see the vision there i can see it happening he missed those that one miss was so bad though yeah that's true i also had a drop in the end zone yeah he oh he dropped one uh no it's his player his player so i remember back it was uh justin field's rookie season i think and which was also trevor lawrence's right correct i said i would take justin field's career over trevor lawrence am i low-key right about that uh juries out because technically right now i mean just like justin field being on his second team would say that trevor lawrence still he just got paid a shitload of money yeah he did get paid a lot in terms of money yeah like if you're talking about actual career not just football career but like his how much money you get paid a lot of money.
Yeah, in terms of money. Yeah.
Like, if you're talking about actual career, not just football career, but like his, you know, how much money you get paid, it's definitely Trevor Lawrence right now. Because he's the only one who got the new contract.
I'll say this. I'm not as wrong as many thought that I was.
I would agree with that. Yeah.
That's absolutely right. And I take that as a win.
That's almost better than being right. Yeah.
It is funny looking back right now at the 2021 draft. Obviously, these guys still got to play a lot.
But the 2021 draft, ready for this? Trevor Lawrence, one. Zach Wilson, two.
Trey Lance, three. Kyle Pitts, four.
Then you get a great list of guys. Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, Penae Sewell, J.C.
Horn, Patrick Shrattan, Devontae Smith, and then Justin Fields and Mac Jones at 15. There are so many good players like Michael Parsons, Rashawn Slater in between Justin Fields and Mac Jones.
It's basically just the quarterbacks, man. Bad year to have to pick a quarterback.
Yeah, and you thought that it was a great year, too, at the time. Yeah.
Hank, do you think this makes it more or less likely that Bill Belichick coaches in Jacksonville after putting Tom Coughlin in the ring of fame? Less likely. I agree.
Less likely, yeah. He doesn't want to look up at that name all the time.
Alright, Bill's Texans. Another great game.
Very excited for this game. How much weight are we putting behind the H-Town blue uniforms? A pretty significant amount i think i don't know if i love the helmets have you seen them i don't know the helmets so these are the first time the jet uh the texans have ever worn them they're debuting their h-town blues here it is pft h-town blues that's kind of nice they're nice but i don't know.
I can't. I've just been staring at these uniforms for the last three days.
This is the extent of the analysis we do on this show. Those are the exact uniforms that look awesome if you win, and they look like dog shit if you lose.
I just don't know if I like the script H. Are you looking at them, Hank? I'm trying to find them.
Just search H-Town Blues. I don't know.
What would happen if they just came out wearing the Oilers uniforms? That would be sick. It's unannounced.
I bet them. I do actually think the Bills are going to win this game.
Oh, they're not blue. They are blue.
They look black, but they're blue. They're H-Town blue.
They're H-Town blue. They're H-Town blue.
I don't like these. I thought they were going to be the old school blue.
Yeah. Do you think Stefan Diggs is the one guy, if you're like he's got a revenge game that you don't want to bet on his team because he's going to be like, CJ Stroud, you better throw it to me 25 times today.
I was thinking their offense is just going to be get the ball to Stefan Diggs as much as possible. Yeah, and he's going to be really pissed.
Yeah, the Bills. So I think it's going to be a great game.
Both these teams I like, are deep playoff run teams. But the Bills' run defense got gashed against the Ravens.
Josh Allen did not have a good game. I think they get a bounce back.
And the Bills' pass defense has been good, and that's what the Texans want to do. So I think I lean the Bills.
Yeah, I think I like the Bills, too. I think they're going to be able to run the ball also.
Yeah. I think Joe Brady is just going to lean into Cook and just be like, okay, we're going to take what we give you.
I think CJ is that game against the game last week that he had against Jacksonville in the second half, the comeback. That told me, okay, let's remember CJ Stroud.
And Nico Collins. JustJ.
Stroud. He's still very, very good.
C.J. Stroud and Nico Collins is a deadly, deadly combo.
Is that the best quarterback wide receiver combo? Sam Donald, Justin Jefferson. Yeah, Sam Donald, Justin Jefferson.
I forgot. Sam Donald, Justin.
Maybe Aaron Rodgers, Devontae Adams. Yeah, that might happen too.
Yeah, Joe Burrow. Yeah, Jamar Chase is going to be – they're lighting it up.
Okay. Next game, Panthers at Bears.
This is – the next five games are going to tell the story of the Bears season. I'm going to – Hank, so you can hold me to this because I know that you love twisting the knife when I go on the roller coaster.
The Bears' next five games, if they go 4-1, it's Yoffs. If they go 3-2, it's maybe Yoffs, but probably not, but I'm right in that middle.
Anything worse than 3-2, it's on to next year. Okay? I'm holding myself to it.
This is the start of the soft part of the schedule where they have to win because then they have a gauntlet to end the season. They play the Panthers this week, Jaguars, Commanders are going to be a tough game, Cardinals, Patriots.
That's the next five games. I think you've got three wins in there.
Have to win three. Don't win three.
It's on the next year because then we start playing. We play all the division games, six of them, and then the only non-division games are the seahawks and the 49ers also you got a chance for a double win in this game so if you beat the panthers correct and the second round pick that you get from the panthers in the draft this year it gets better just like last year yeah yeah uh i do love that andy dalton is like getting to you know it's it like one of those situations where it's like oh i wish that uh i could could be at my own funeral so I could see all the nice things people say about me.
I feel like Andy Dalton's retiring while still playing because some of his quotes are like looking back. He said this week that he didn't like the Red Rifle nickname, but he grew to like it as years passed.
Feel a little bad about that. The Red Rifle is a good nickname.
He didn't like it. So he's talking about it.
It's almost like he's doing his retirement speeches in the media week to week.

He's having an exit interview with the media.

Yeah, he's like, I didn't like it.

I'm starting to grow on it.

He also said that the Bears are actually one of the three teams.

So the three teams that he has not beaten in the NFL, he played for all three.

The Bears, the Cowboys, and the Panthers.

He's never beaten those three teams.

How many times has he played the Bears?

He's played the Bears twice.

Okay.

Lost twice.

So he probably wants to win this one just to have that vote.

I'm going to be a little this, a little that, carousel. Yeah.
Do you think DeAndre Swift is fixed? We got to keep being mean to him. So no.
Okay. Not fixed yet.
Not fixed yet. But yeah, must win.
Must win for the Bears. Carolina's run defense is one of the worst in the NFL.
So that's why I asked about DeAndre Swift. Because I feel like if you get DeAndre Swift from last week, then things go a lot better for you.
I think I saw that Shy Tuttle, their nose tackle, might be back,

which I just wanted to say his name because his name is awesome.

Shy Tuttle.

But yeah, must win for the Bears.

I'm not going to waver on that.

If on Sunday night the Bears lose and we do this show, I'm going to be very upset and be like,

you just blew a great opportunity to get above 500. I think you have this.
I think that we're all in love from the panthers looking not as bad as they did look yeah yeah which was yeah they basically did the what's what's the movie where the girl is like a nerd and then she's all that she takes off the glasses yeah that's what the panthers did with any don't any don't sort of diaries princess diaries the taming of the shrew who was that Dan Hathaway? I liked ann hathaway i hated her really but then i started to like her when i started wearing a danny woodhead jersey she did yeah yeah she's a big danny woodhead fan shout out danny woodhead he qualified for the four ball oh really is that what what is that i know he is always trying to play in the like the US Open qualifiers andifiers and stuff he's gotten close he qualified i believe for the four ball in new jersey the four ball at what uh golf i think it's like a it's like a i don't know what he did the four ball tournament it's like a four ball usga thing i don't know go to his yeah there it is ticket punched so thankful we're able to get through to the usga four ball where we will play in jersey can't wait to go back to where we lived two years to complete thank god allowed willie and i to pull through thanks to paul and kobe for looping love that yeah let's go yeah oh but yeah and haway. I just thought she was annoying.
Yeah, okay.

I just thought she was very annoying.

That's fine.

We all have those people.

Yeah.

Why do you have that tweet up, Max?

Memes sent me.

That was just the last thing memes.

What's the tweet?

That's from the takeies.

A PNV.

Takeies.

That's from the takeies.

That's a PNV tweet.

Yeah.

It's from the takeies.

It's fine.

All right, next game. Dolphins and Patriots.
Oh, my God. This game stinks.
More Snoop, baby. Hank, this is gross.
David Andrews. You already had a bad offensive line.
David Andrews out for the season. Sucks.
I feel like he might be done, too. Yeah.
He might be done. Legend.
Great career. I mean, this game hank hope it's not jalen phillips also out what what's the record for punts you calling it we have no offensive line we didn't have one before now we lost like the captain of our team and offensive line center so it's a 35 is it still 35 and a half points for the over under? I believe so.
The Dolphins haven't won a road game straight up with a backup quarterback since Matt Moore in 2016, and they've had a lot of chances. Yikes.
Their backup quarterbacks that have started in that span are Skylar Thompson, Teddy Bridgewater, Jacoby Reset, Josh Rosen, Brock Osweiler, Matt Moore, and Tyler Huntleyley i've had a lot of backups mike mcdaniel also looks like he he is he is depressed he looks like a like a scientist in a movie that stayed up until 3 a.m for the last three nights trying to find an equation that just a chemistry reaction that just won't happen for him can i also say that i've been laughing a little bit about the memes that have been going around about mike mc and Tua? Have you guys seen some of them? No. There was one where they were, it looked like a Make-A-Wish thing where they were doing a wheelchair out to a kid in a football uniform to take a snap in a game, and it was like Mike McDaniel bringing out Tua.
Please do this. Because he can't play Tyler Huntley anymore.
Please get out there for me. Or Skylar Thompson.
Yeah. Poor taste.
Poor taste to everyone who's doing that. But send me any of those that you see.
So it's tied with the Raiders Broncos for being the lowest over under the year. I feel like it's going to go way under 35 and a half.
Nine to three. This is a tough game.
The only thing is Huntley might be able to run with the ball on broken plays because the Patriots defense not always great against that. Would you be excited if they all of a sudden were like Drake May? No.
Okay. You don't want to see Drake.
It doesn't matter who our quarterback is. They're going to have no time to throw.
Right. And the injury risk is obviously high.
Right. But do you want to see him get his feet wet? No.
Okay. Are you going to watch this game? If it's in the game, we can.
There's only six games. Okay.
So, unfortunately, yeah, I will. It will be on a big TV.
What's your reaction going to be if you win? You're going to be excited. Yeah, because fucking we work with the Dolphins fan.
Nicky Smokes is so annoying. It'll be great to rub it in his face.

Yeah.

I think what I'm going to do for this game is I'm going to flip a coin right before the game,

and I'm just going to bet it, whichever side it goes.

I'm going to bet the over.

I love that.

It's never going to be close.

I love that.

I might do that with you.

Fuck it.

You know what I might do?

I might do.

It will be over in the first quarter.

I might do the live unders as they keep getting lower and lower.

Yeah, we'll see how low I can go with it by the fourth quarter. Hey, let the live unders as they keep getting lower and lower.
Yeah, see how low I can go

with it by the fourth quarter.

Hey,

let's bet this over.

Yeah.

Fuck it.

It's so low.

What's the path to get there?

Pick six.

Even still.

Running.

Return for a touchdown.

Pick six.

A regular touchdown.

Safety.

Three field goals.

And another touchdown.

Shit.

See, I feel like you need two defensive scores in this game.

That's a lot.

That's a lot.

It can happen.

Maybe we just bet that.

Okay.

Raiders-Broncos. Afternoon slate.
No we just bet that. Okay.
Raiders Broncos afternoon slate. No Devante Adams.
He is obviously said he was going to the news broke this week. He's open to a trade.
It's also very interesting because how his contract works is I think you can basically cut him for free after this year. And if you trade for him every single week, he gets paid close to a million dollars.
I think it's like $900,000. So it kind of makes sense for a team that wants to trade for him to wait a couple weeks.
Because this is just the Raiders are paying it. If you trade for him in three weeks, you save $3 million.
The price is going down for what you have to pay for him. Would you trade Devontae Adams in the division? No.
Would you trade him to the Chiefs? No. But counterpoint, the Raiders are probably, what, three years out from contending? I still think you can't do it.
And by the time those three years goes by, Devontae's 35. If it was the best offer? Yeah, the best offer.
Let's just say they offer a second-round round pick everybody else is offering like a third and a fifth yeah i think you'd have to maybe a first rounder first would never do that but yeah you'd have to do it you'd have to listen to him i'll tell you this al davis would never do this never never but if you just blow him away with an offer i feel like you have to listen to him um antonio pierce is uh under a show now. That ruling just came down.
So from college football. Oh, from Arizona State.
From Arizona State. Allegedly, he took a recruit's parents out to a strip club.
Is that wrong? Is that wrong? No, that's vibes. Why are you not allowed to do that? I'm assuming they're above the age of 18.
Yeah. I think physically they have to be.
Correct. So it's just guys being dudes.
What's wrong with wrong with that no problem is there a difference between taking them out for lunch and then going to a place that has lunch and also entertainment no i don't think there is either no i think that's fucked up uh i think i hate this game because i feel like the broncos are gonna win but they're gonna win by two i like the raiders so they're eight no against denver in las vegas yes no they're they're playing in denver yes they're eight no against denver since they left oakland sorry since they became the las vegas raiders yeah they're okay yeah yeah i see what you're saying yes but that's that's in both places they've won eight straight against the the broncos correct i think they've won 10 out of 11 as well. Yes, it's kind of relocated.
They own them right now, but the Broncos look so shitty last week. But their defense, man, their defense is good.
And I think, like, when you have Devontae Adams out and then you have a lockdown cornerback, one of the best in the league, Patrick Shutan, now going up against their second option, everything gets easier. I just don't know how you move the ball against this Broncos defense.
If you want to say, hey, how do the Broncos move the ball? Period. That's a fair counterpoint.
But I think the Broncos defense is going to win this game. Do we have Max back? Is Crosby playing this weekend? I believe he's going to try to play.
I like that. I also know Denver Blitz is a shitload.
Gardner Minshew pretty good against the Blitz. Yeah.
So this is another game that's tough. It's a tough week.
Tough week. Tough week.
As our good friend Ben Mintz says, no bet. The line makers made it right.
Sometimes the best bet is not making a bet. Yeah.
All right. Cardinals at 49ers.
I actually don't know if this is a you want to feel old, but Tio's son was signed to the practice squad of the 49ers this week. Yeah, I feel old.
I don't know. Tio's kind of old.
Yeah, but Tio's also a guy that I feel like could play football. Yeah, Tariq Owens is signed to the practice squad.
They're getting all the sons, huh? Yeah, They got them all. I kind of want to take the Cardinals.
So Brock Purdy is 3-0 against Arizona. Arizona's lost four straight to the Niners.
All right, here's a stat for you. I got two stats for you.
Teams to lose by 17-plus points versus teams who won by a 17-point margin the previous week are 60% in the last 20 years. Teams to lose by 28-plus points the previous week and our dogs of four-plus points in their next game are 62%.
So this might line up with our theory that the Cardinals are just saving all their good plays for divisional opponents. I'm just saying it's the overreact game.
come back in the middle just come right back in the middle that was from bet labs yeah uh marvin harrison jr he was good in divisional games so that might be their formula it's like let's save this guy and only go to him in the games that really really matter really really matter and this one really really matters yeah uh but the 49ers offense been really good uh fred warner has an ankle

he's got two yep but he has an ankle he's got an ankle uh christian mccaffrey not back this week

he has two achilles two achilles well he's got one that's worse than the other yeah he does have

two achilles his two legs that might we don't know if they can we see a video of him walking

is he at the game is he going to this game that would be funny if they if if the 49ers were like

game in Germany?

No.

The 49ers were like,

hey, we wanted Christian

Thank you. video of him walking is he at the game is he going to this game that would be funny if they if if the 49ers were like hey germany no uh the 49ers were like hey we wanted christian mccaffrey on his birthday to come out and see the flyover and it was just jimmy carter yeah yeah this is what he looks like jimmy i he might actually be dead oh yeah oh yeah sad and it sucks because he would have been a talk to a fan for sure 100 he looked like he was getting that hot to a yeah um yeah mouth open catch some flies you they can't you don't bring them out don't get cameras around don't get cameras around the guy's 100 years old living to i i'm of the mindset that anything over 90 all all jokes are off like you can joke about anything because you've lived an incredible life but still don't bring them out yeah we didn't need to see that the fly who falls asleep during a flyover well i think they had to do a flyover because that's the only direction you can look it's so hard it's so hard to they couldn't they couldn't have done like a marching band you wouldn't be able to see it can you imagine falling asleep and you've got Jets just breaking the sound barrier over your face?

Well, he's never awake.

That's true.

Hank, is Christian still in Germany?

I don't know.

I don't believe so.

I think it was back and forth.

I would like to see him at this game because he might not be alive, actually.

We haven't seen him.

I'd like to see him as well.

Same.

Okay, wrapping up, we've got a few more games.

Packers at Rams.

I think this is the Packers look like one of the best teams in the NFL game. Unfortunately.
The Rams still very, very injured. Their defense not very good.
Jordan Love should be better this week. Yeah.
And I just, I don't know what the Rams just, yeah, they need some guys back. I think this is a major.
It's a teacher-pupil game, right?

Yeah.

And I feel like sometimes the pupil has to go out there, and he's prepared for a kitchen sink.

He knows what's in McVay's sink.

Yep.

He's seen that sink.

He's reloaded it.

He's cleaned that sink out.

His job working under McVay was probably do the dishes.

Yeah.

Like, come on, bitch.

I like the Packers in this game, too.

Yeah.

Rams, yeah, let me look up the Ramsers in this game, too. Yeah.
Rams.

Yeah, let me look up the Rams injury report.

It's probably just still a mess, an absolute mess, because Cooper Cup, although Cooper

Cup, they said that he's getting closer, maybe.

I don't know.

Yeah, they just keep losing guys.

They have a couple guys who opened up their 21 practice day window.

By the way, I forgot to mention this at the beginning. Remember TJ Hawkinson yeah yeah his practice window opened oh good yeah good so the vikings are gonna be even better they're gonna get better yeah uh the packers do have an issue they got a kicker problem uh big time they've got a kicker problem so around the league kickers have made a higher field goal percentage on kicks over 50 yards that's 75 percent um it's a higher percentage than Brayden Narvison.
Brayden Narvison has made on all of his kicks. He's at 69.2.
He hasn't tried one from beyond 50 yards, and he's the only kicker to miss a field goal from inside 40 yards this season. So they got a kicking issue.
They got a kicking issue. I don't think it's going to matter this week, but they do have a kicking issue.
Put a pin in that one. Put a big pin in it.
All right, Giants at Seahawks. I want to take the Giants so bad, but if Malik Nabors doesn't play, I don't know how they move the ball.
What's the point of watching a Giants game if you're a Giants fan if Malik Nabors isn't out there? Zero. Is there? Zero point.
I don't think that there's a point to it. Zero point.
There is zero point. I don't.
The Seahawks, this should be. They played a crazy Monday night game, a lot of snaps, all this shit.
You should want to take the Giants. But if you watch this game and Malik Nabors is on the field, what are they going to do? Yeah.
And the Seahawks have been pretty good against everybody except for that game against Detroit. Yeah, and their defense is hurt.
Daniel Jones, fun stat for him on deep passes. I'm talking like 20-plus yards downfield.
Okay, I like what you're talking about. He's thrown 13 passes this year.
How many of them do you think he's completed? 13 deep passes, over 20 yards. he's completed two passes over 20 yards so close uh and he's got one pick on those two so uh 16.5 passer rating when he's going downfield damn i was right there you were right there i was right there i was only eight off and the when the total was 13 dable's looking good though again every time i the Giants, I have to mention how good Brian Dable looks.
He looks good. Real good.
He's getting too skinny. All right, last game, Cowboys at Steelers.
Great, great color matchup. Love when these two teams just feels like football.
Feel like we might get a double renegade on a Sunday night against the Cowboys. Cowboys are hurt.
Michael Parsons not going to play, right? I don't think he's going to play. DeMarcus Lawrence not going to play, right? I don't think he's going to play.
But again, we're taping this early Thursday. So I'm not sure.
Now, Big Cat, I have a question for you. Yeah.
This is earlier posed, I think by Chris Canty. Do you think the Cowboys should start tanking? For what? Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. Do you know what the date is currently? Do you know how many games of football we've played? Do you know what their record is? It feels like it might be early to start the tanking conversation.
The only team that I could say confidently that should tank as of right now is the Miami Dolphins. Yeah.
I think that's the only team I would say you should tank because you're going to need a situation. If you get the first pick and you have your roster, like, oh, you put in Shadour Sanders or Carson Beck or someone who you want to draft because Tua, you can't say that he's going to go through a whole season.
So that would be the only team. Maybe after this week we add some more Panthers,

but Panthers, Andy Dalton's like trying.

But the perfect thing for the Panthers is losing games

where you score like 30 points.

Yeah.

All right, so Panthers and Dolphins,

and then we should update the tank list as we go along.

Because if the Jaguars lose again, they should start tanking.

Yeah, here's why I don't want the Cowboys to tank,

because if they start tanking,

that means that the Cowboys won't make the playoffs and lose in the first round again. Right.
We need to see that. Like, Chris Canty, what are you putting out there into the universe? If anything, we should hope that the Cowboys, all their momentum changes entirely.
Yeah. I want to see them get their hopes up a little bit.
You see Jerry landing the helicopter at practice? So funny. That was awesome.
Jerry Jones flew into Cowboys practice on the helicopter and landed it right next to the door to go inside the office like he had the helicopter fly to the corner real close to the building when it landed just so that jerry could get out and walk right into the facility yeah that's a fucking awesome move uh did you also see michael parsons uh quote where it's basically uh is it uh star uh star NFL player getting injured for the first time or like 27 year olds getting their first violent hangover? He said he was humbled by his ankle injury. I figured myself invincible for a while.
Yeah. That's hey, we know, man.
I'm human. Just everyone's been there.
Literally everyone's been there. Yeah.
He hadn't missed a game of football in his entire career, right? Yeah. That's kind of crazy.
It is crazy. So, yeah, he probably won't play.
And I think Trayvon Diggs and Zeke were limited in practice, and I think DeMarcus Lawrence won't play either. So I like the Steelers.
I think they'll run the ball. They've got a couple guys missing on defense, though.
Yeah, but I just think they got humbled a little bit by the Colts. Everyone's throwing accolades at their defense, and now they're going to get Mike Tomlin, double renegade, Sunday night, terrible towels, Justin Fields, narrative goes.
I like it. Yeah, Justin Fields.
I actually do think that he might be the starter. I think that Tomlin's, you know, he's talking about all the words that he's had with his players behind the scenes that he won't share.
Yeah. I think one of those things in the hot dog is he's told Justin Fields he's the starter.
Well, it's also, I think Russ's agent is just part of his contract was that Adam Schefter has to tweet every single week an update about Russell Wilson. So what's the latest update on it? It was that he's – what was it? Let me find it.
Because it's essentially the same tweet every single week that makes me think someone's making him do that because we don't need updates on Russell Wilson. I promise you.
Not even from the ultimate insider? We don't care about Russell Wilson updates. Justin Fields is better than Russell Wilson.
We don't need it. Steelers are preparing.
This is from October 1st. Steelers are preparing for Justin Fields to start versus the Cowboys as Russell Wilson ups his activity.
Don't care, dude. He's getting more active.
We knew Justin Fields was playing in this game. I want to see Russell on the sideline, though, thinking he might play.
Yeah, so DeMarcus Lawrence is on the injured reserve, so he's definitely out. Four weeks.
But yeah, I don't know why they keep telling us. It's going to be week 16.
The Steelers are going to be an 11-win team, and Adam Schefter is going to tweet, update on Russell Wilson. He feels like he's almost ready to come back, but Justin Fields will start again.
Justin Fields right now has momentum with the offense, so they're waiting for Russell to be 110% on his return. He better not come back and take this job.
I think Tomlin has made Justin Fields the secret starting quarterback. I agree with you.
Of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I agree with you.
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Did anyone else on our touchdown parlay? I was not in it. You three again.
I did not. Three again.
Max, did you not hit one last week? No, I stink. I've yet to hit one.
Okay. So, Hank, PFT, and myself, reminder, you can bet it on DraftKings.
We'll have our parlay, our touchdown parlay. If we hit it once, did we hit it the first week? I don't think we did.
I think we got to hit one. We got to hit one, boys.
The odds are nice and juicy, though. So, if you hit one, it's like that whole month never happened.
Okay. You know what? I'll start us off with a winner.
Derek Henry. I know it's minus 170, but that's the foundation we build off of.
Let's get a win. Let's get one win.
See one go through. I'm going to go with James Conner.
James Conner. Against the Niners.
You don't like that, Hank? No, I thought you were going to take my pick. Oh, Hank.
A different James. Hank, we're going to win this week.
Guess, based off of that. James Winston.
Correct. James Cook.
Okay. Like that.
Last 105, he is playing the Texans. James Conner, James Cook, Derrick Henry.
We're keeping it on the ground this week. Running backs are back.
Ode to the running backs. That's going to be plus 520.
Let's win this one. Yep.
Should we change one out so that we can get those odds up? I do have an idea. Get one through the hoop.
Yeah. I have an idea.
I got an idea. Get one through the hoop.
What are the odds on DK? No, no, no. Get one through the hoop.
Get one through the hoop. DK's going to score.
Get one through the hoop. How upset would you be if you changed it? Yes.
Yes. Yes.
But now that he said DK. I'm going to be upset if DK scores and then James Conner doesn't.
No, it would be Derek Henry that we take out. Let's see what DK is real quick.
It would be Derek Henry that we take out to bump it up. Fuck.
No, we got to get one through the hoop. If we hit this, we're plus.
Wait, would you trade it out with James Conner? We could do that. I think I would.
Because that way we have one in the late games. I mean, DK's only plus 120.
And what's Connor? He's plus 100, so it probably wouldn't change. But if you want to do it, PFT, just say it.
No, let's stick with running backs. Stay on the ground.
It would be your... If you want to do it...
Ground boys. It would be...
Yeah, it wouldn't change. Ground and pound.
Ground and pound. Ground and pound.
Let's play some fucking man football. All right, let's do our picks.

What is the updated records, memes?

And who's going first?

Double question.

PFT, four and four.

Big Cat, four and four.

Hank, three and five.

Me, three and five.

Max, two, five, and one.

Nice.

Hank leads us off.

I was hoping that you were starting with PFT and i four and four like the middle no we're the leaders four and four is good it's just two picks we're the leaders hank's up first henry i am going to pick oh it has changed in the in the 20 minutes since we looked. Fuck.

Come on, Hank.

Bears minus four.

Love it.

It was minus three and a half.

Yeah, it went up.

Like 30 minutes ago.

I had that too.

Love it.

Love it. I'll go Packers minus three.

Okay.

Maxie.

I will go Jags minus two and a half.

Fuck.

Ooh, Maxie.

Max, Max, Max.

Cowboys Steelers over 44.

Cowboys Steelers over 44.

Okay, I'm going to go

with the

Packers Rams over 48

and a half.

Sorry. Oh, and I have another one.

Ooh.

It's a tough week, boys. It's a really tough week.
It's a really tough week. I'll actually take that one off, Max.
You want it? I'll take the Ravens-Bengals over 49. And I'll take the Ravens minus 2.5.
I'll double up on the game. I'm going to double up on the game.
Throw your nuts on the table. Double up on the game.
I don't have anything that I love anymore. It's a tough week.
Nothing that I love this year. It's a tough week of football.
Okay, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to get a little weird with it. Yeah, get weird with it.
I like this number. It's a good number to bet on.
Yes. Plus seven and a half is a solid number, right? Love that.
Because then you're like a touchdown. You're always in it.
If they come out and score a quick touchdown, you're still good. We're down by 14 points in the fourth quarter.
Guess what? Just get downfield, score a touchdown. We could win.
Cardinals, plus 7.5 at the 49ers. I like that.
I'm going to take the Rams-Packers over 48 now. Okay.
Sunday night football under 44. What was your over-under? It was the Ravens-Bangals game.
I doubled up. All right.
I'm going to go just for a personal fun viewing experience on Sunday. Bills Texans over 47 and a half.
That's good. Love that.
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Hey, and Ray. Oi, oi, oi, oi.
I want to stand with you on a mountain. I want to bathe with you in the sea.
I wanna lay like this forever until the tide falls down on me. Oi, my name's Chapwick McSpringleberry.
McSpringleberry. My start on this week is Killer Whales.
What's all about them? Killer Whales They're not bad at all They're my start on What are they doing? Jalen Brown says the Celtics study Killer Whales And their hunting habits And that's their offensive identity That's fucking aura Wow They're gonna Offensive identity More like Orca That's Orca What if the basketball gets stuck in the blowhole? Then they'll fucking kill the weak teammate and keep the ball moving. No, they'd fucking die, you idiot.
It. It.
It. It.
It's free will, isn't it? It. All my sit-in this week is all Titans.
All Titans. They're fucking useless.
This is the Fantasy Lad Boids, and there's been no good Titans this this year It's a fucking struggle to get any points from the Toydies You say Titans or Titans Titans Bullocks You hear the one about P Diddy He went into jail as a tight end Came out a wide receiver That's very funny It's amusing indeed And my sleeper this week is Arsenal. They lost to PSG again.
They're fucking, their season's asleep. They suck.
Oh, the Gunners? Arsenal's rubbish. Ortega out.
Ortega out. Sucker.
We've got soccer. No, it's...
Oh, money, money. No, it's...
What do you forgot? Jimmy. Sala.
Sala. We got Sala.
Oh, money, money. You are my Sala girl.
The other one was... Oh, fuck.
What was it? It was... You will never...
Toot toot toot toot toot toot toot toot toot toot toot toot toot toot toot toot toot get enough. All right.
All right. He bites a guy and then everyone calls him a cannibal.
I just can't get enough. Chomp chomp.
I just can't get enough. Ow.
He scores the goals and the crowd. And I just can't get enough of Suarez.
Yes. Why don't we lose? Why don't Americans sing it all when they watch their football on TV? I fucking love it.
A nice pint with the boys and sing some tunes. Get the chance going, innit? Real guys being dudes.
Credit to the University of Michigan. They sing Mr.
Brightside. I believe they invented that.
Yeah, they did. They did.
That's their song. They did.
Oi. Oi.
I'm Prince Harry. Prince Harry.
Former Prince Harry. Prince Harry.
Former Prince Harry. Former Prince Harry.
My starter this week is Harry Kane. Harry Kane.
On account of there will be a game played in Hotspur Stadium this weekend, Brees Hall struggles to score from one yard out. Harry would never have that problem.
Tapping merchant. That's Harry's specialty.
Harry. I'm sitting my brother, Andrew Dalton, looks exactly like me, Prince Harry.
Prince Harry, don't call him the Red Rifle. I will call him Prince Andrew.
Prince Andrew, don't call him Prince Andrew. That's a good name for him.
Why? He's about to get exposed this weekend in very unflattering fashion indeed against the Bears. He doesn't sweat.
He doesn't sweat. He doesn't sweat.
It couldn't have been him in that picture. He doesn't sweat.
Just like Prince Andrew, I think Andy Dalton will have a very hard time scoring above 18 this weekend. Yes.
How about that against the Bears?

Lizzie's in a box.

What was that one?

Lizzie's in a box.

That's my mom.

In a box.

That's my mom.

Lizzie's in a box.

Wait.

Now, Harry.

Prince Harry.

Lizzie's in a box.

In a box.

Lizzie's in a box.

Andy Dalton can sweat, but he's going to have sweat all over him on Sunday.

Why's that?

Montez.

Oh, Montez sweat. That's very good.
Chip, chip. That's very entertaining.
Cheerio. My sleeper's Bigfoot.
Bigfoot? Absolute unit. You see he's back.
He's back. There was a video of Bigfoot this week from Oklahoma.
Oh. Oklahoma just chilling up against a tree, laying about, sniffing some daisies.
Daisies. And it looks very real.
Oh. I believe Bigfoot might be actually, he looks kind of like my pops, actually.
He looks a little bit like Prince Charles. Yeah.
Just covered in hair. Might be alive.
Might not be alive. Yeah.
Bigfoot's back. It's real.
Yeah. Bigfoot is real.
We found him. He's a ginger, just like me.
Prince Harry. Prince Harry.
My star is Aaron Rodgers. Oh, hello, guys.
My name is Henry Henry. Hey, Henry.
Henry Henry. My star is Henry II.
Henry II. My star is Aaron Rodgers.
He's going to go out there and show everyone who's the real king of England on Sunday. Is the game on Sunday? The game's on Sunday.
The game is on Sunday. It's going to be a great game.
But Aaron Rodgers, he's going to go out there and he's going to show everyone that his knee's fine and the cadence isn't an issue. It's going to be just fine.
No rain in England. Yeah, no rain.
This weekend. First time in 400 years.
My sit-in is Tim Waltz. That guy's fucking weird.
When they asked him if he went to China, he couldn't answer. He takes a lot of notes, doesn't he?

What the fuck was that?

You been to China?

I've never been to China.

I think that...

Ask me if I've been to China.

Have you been to China?

No.

Hank, Enri the Enri.

Hey, you been to China?

No comment.

Oh, shit.

Were you at the Tiananmen Square...

I dug a deep hole once.

Were you at the Tiananmen Square Massacre?

No comment. Okay.
It's a bit early to start the tanking conversation Square Massacre? No comment.

It's a bit early to start the tanking conversation.

Yeah, come on now, Henry.

Henry Henry.

And my sleeper is Jimmy Carter.

He's sleeping.

He's always sleeping.

Guy don't want to fucking wake up.

He's having a good dream.

He's having a nice fucking dream out there.

Just dreaming about God knows what.

Hammers and nails. Peanuts and hammers and nails.
That was great. I had a lot of fun doing that.
That was the best. I had a lot of fun doing that.
I had a fucking lot of fun doing that. The amount of times that me and me are laughing in the back.
We're just going to cut the music every time you guys sing your own song. Yeah, do it.
Yeah. And then it goes back.
You and I just go, oy oh and then it goes back to the music at one point i was i was doing such a heavy british accent i think i just spat all over myself and all over the mic that was a lot of fun that hock to a memes is on fire memes is on fire your defense is terrified seriously what would it take to get some some good song chants going in american football we just can't do it we can't do it i think we're all too drunk which is kind of like up yours we're drunker than them we're drunker than that no chance you're not allowed to drink in the stands at epl games but they get fucking they the a lot of the chanting happens on the way to the game when they're just hammered yeah we do some songs like what renegade renegade renegade fly eagles fly Oh, the Bengals. the bangles do a song too they have a song it's kind of like their version renegade i think they do wayward sun in between the third and fourth oh that rocks hail to the commander do they do our words hail victory yeah we score touchdown yeah what see yeah we do songs they just don't they're just not as fun song ever yeah i know but like it's more like the made-up songs that you like put your best player in those are the songs go cubs go i guess we do that for boomers yeah we do but i just yeah i don't know i just we we need more songs um all right let's kick it to an elite quarterback our good friend joe flacco before we get to joe flacco he's brought to you by our great friends over at coors light there's no sports experience quite like the rivalries between college football teams and now on saturdays you can get even closer to the action with coors light and with draft kings coors light teamed up with draft kings for the free-to-play college football pick and pools where you pick winners for a pick winners for a chance to win big, but when the rivalries heat up, you can choose chill, then reach for an ice-cold Coors Light.
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That's right.

You're waiting to pick up your kids.

Picking up the sixth grader from middle school.

And you're doing an interview.

I think it's our first carpool interview.

It might be.

The first time we had you on, what were you –

I think you might have been in like your brother's living room or something.

Yeah, you were in an office.

Yeah, probably.

Yeah.

I was probably at home or, yeah, somewhere.

Yeah.

Not too formal, but –

Thank you. You might have been in, like, your brother's living room or something.
Yeah, you were in an office. Yeah, probably.
Yeah. I was probably at home or, yeah, somewhere.

Yeah.

Not too formal, but.

So, off a big win against the Steelers, I got a couple questions about that game and then a few other ones.

But the first one is, you get, Anthony Richardson goes down.

You get in the game.

Was there a part of you like, oh, it's the Steelers.

Like, I know what I'm doing. I can beat these guys.
This is old school Joe Flacco. Oh, man.
I think you try to talk yourself into that. But there's always that piece of you when you have to get in as a backup that's a little bit more nervous than you normally are to have to go out there and do it.
When you go out there in a normal game, you go out there and you either receive the kickoff or, you know, you're getting it in a couple of minutes, you go out there, you get your first play over with, but this is a little bit different. It definitely took me a little bit of time to settle in.
Yeah. Did you have to get warmed up? Like how long does that take your body to get warmed up? Cause for me, when I wake up in the morning, it's like two hours.
I think the shot of adrenaline that you get is kind of unexplainable. Yeah, was on the sideline i didn't throw any i didn't do any warm-up throws just went out there and your body your body gets put into that mode pretty quickly when when you get hit with that little jolt of energy yeah and like big cat said going up against the steelers you've done that before was was big ben in the building was he there big ben big ben was in the building you know i was um i was at my locker and uh sam or other quarterback you know mentioned that he saw big ben in in pat's um box i'm getting poured on right now i don't know if you guys can hear that no we're good um all right good uh he he mentioned that big ben was in his box so we come out of the tunnel right where his box was.
And I look over and I see him over there. So I actually went up and said and said, what's up now? I don't know Ben that well.
But I think when you have when you've played against somebody that much, you just have like a little bit of a natural connection. So it was really cool to see him.
I think it probably did bring me back to 10 years ago when we were playing those guys. It made it a little bit more familiar, I think, for whatever reason.
Yeah. And you also, a cool part of your win on Sunday is you got $100,000.
So in your contract, it's if you play 50% snaps or more in a win. There you go.
Yeah. So was there.
You know what? My wife actually just asked me about that with a smile on her face did you happen to hit any incentives and i'm like listen i have no idea yeah i don't have a i don't have a copy of it and i can't remember what what we actually agreed to so there you go i appreciate you telling me yeah so so i guess that answers my question that you weren't because i mean a hundred thousand dollars is not chump change if you're sitting there on the sideline it of the game. You're like, all right, we got to win this game because I've done the snaps.
Get me that $100,000. That's right, man.
Hey, listen, $100,000 is $100,000. I mean, geez, like growing up, go make $100,000.
That's a big deal. So anytime you get something like that, you can't take that for granted.
Is that weird that we know more about how much you get paid than you know? I don't think so. I think that's kind of just the nature of the beast when you get to like professional sports.
It's a focus for the athlete like while you're doing it and while you're doing that negotiation. But it's really never about that.
You're just trying to make sure that you get the most that you can while you can because you understand that you kind of have to do that. Yeah, but then once you like we're really all doing this because it's the best job in the world and we love to do it.
I think there's like I said during negotiations and a couple other times there's probably times where that comes into play. But once it's done, it's kind of like out of sight out of mind and you just go just go play it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was very, very cool to watch you out there.
I know you're too nice of a guy. You won't say it, so we'll say it.
Big Cat, the Browns are morons. Yeah, the Browns are morons.
I didn't know this until, what, it was yesterday or something? So the Browns didn't even offer you a contract in the offseason? You got to keep Flacco in the building. Well, listen, guys, it's a business, you know.
You never know what to expect. You know, and listen, I said it last year when I was playing.
I mean, I was in a really good headspace and just was able to be super grateful for that experience. Cleveland gave me so much.
The fact that they were the team that was willing to bring me in last year, you know, I don't have any ill, ill, ill feelings towards them. I mean, I'll, I'll, I'll forever be grateful to be honest with you because I, I, without them signing me, I mean, I'm not, you know, I'm not here this year.
Um, I, you can go back to New

York in the same way. Like I would not say I had a very, um, enjoyable experience while I was in

New York, but they were willing to sign me after I got surgery that fused my neck and they kept

signing me. I was there for three years.
Um, without them, I mean, you have to look at it

this way. If you're me without them giving me those opportunities, even if they didn't amount

Thank you. was there for three years um without them i mean you have to look at it this way if you're me without them giving me those opportunities even if they didn't amount to anything they amounted to me ultimately being in the league that much longer and ended up getting a chance like i did last year and now i'm here this year because of that same thing so um listen i think there's probably a time where you want to let those negative thoughts creep into your head and get mad at everybody in the world.
But I think I've been through that. I think when I was younger, I probably had a little bit more of that in me.
But I've tried to let those things go. Listen, Cleveland was unbelievable.
The people there, everything about it was unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, you're a really nice guy.
I would say you don't know what to expect. I would expect the team that I took to the playoffs to want to re-sign me.

So we'll say that part for you.

We got you.

We got your back. So this offseason, I don't know how it worked for you.
I assume that you talked to a couple different teams, not just the Colts. Would that be fair? You know what? My agent thought that there would be a couple different teams interested, Cleveland being one of them.
But the nature of it was that when it came down to it, there really wasn't. And to be honest with you, I kind of had the same mindset as I did last year.
If I didn't have an opportunity that I felt really good about, I was at the point where I was willing to sit at home and do the same thing I did last year. But you never know if that's going to happen.
If it wasn't for the Colts being that one team, I don't know, you know, maybe a couple other teams I would have said yes to as well, but just the getting, being able to get back into an offensive room with Shane Steichen, just the little bit of time that I was with him in Philly, I just felt like he was really good at what he did, and he was going to put the quarterback and the offense and the team in a good situation. So I felt like this was one of those teams that I didn't have to wait around and sign with that I felt comfortable going to.
And if I did on the off chance have to go in there and play, it'd be a good situation for me. Yeah.
Cool. So have you thought about how long you can play for? Because I want you to play for – I want you to be like 45.
I want you – we need Joe Flacco in the league. We can't lose you.
I don't care if it's backup on every team, but having you in the league makes the league more fun. Yeah, I don't know why that is, but I appreciate it.
Something about your spiral. Yeah, it's a really nice spiral.
You almost hit the roof last week. It was awesome.
I'm having a lot of fun. My family's having a lot of fun with it.
Listen, I want to play as long as I possibly can. At some point, my kids are – I don't care about missing a few things here or there right now with my kids.
And to be honest with you, there's no really, there's no real better schedule than being in a professional football player. I mean,

you're right. You're with your kids way more than anybody that works a normal job gets to be with

them. Um, but there's going to be a cut.
There's going to be, there's going to come a point if I'm

fortunate enough to still be playing when they, when they get ready to play some high school

football, I'm probably going to want to be around to see them play some high school football um so i mean at 45 they'd be in high school uh i i'd love to say i'd still be playing at that point but you know the situation might have to be exactly right you never know i want to keep happening though i want i want big ben to be like you know getting wheeled in on a rascal scooter, watching you beat him. Yeah, Ben was thinking I was a little crazy when I went up and said hi to him.
You can see it in his eyes. Like, what are you still doing, you know? And I was talking to Pat yesterday, and I said, listen, I think that he was initially – that was his initial thought.
But when I got in there and all of a sudden I started to play, it had to bring back a few memories few memories and i for sure i'd be willing to bet that he had a few feelings inside like okay let me let me throw some pads on and get out there you know yeah yeah i would not be shocked if ben just showed up to the sealers facility on monday morning he was like i'm ready i'm ready to give another shot key card still works yeah wait so you you mentioned age you had a great line after the game that uh you're eight days older than anthony than Anthony Richardson's mom. So when did you find that out? Did he bring that up first? Because that is kind of like crazy to be in a locker room with a guy that could be your son.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy. That's the point I'm at.
We probably talked about it at some point. And then we were both at our lockers, which are right next to each other one day.
And he asked me when's your birthday i said i didn't know where i didn't know what he was getting at i said january and he said january what i said 16th he said and then that's when he told me my mom's january 8th and he was like 1985 right and i'm like yeah that's it and man like i i i think that's just incredible so obviously i go around and i tell everybody i possibly can. Wait, I didn't realize you were – Yeah, he's almost birthday week.
Yeah, your birthday month. We're January 85 as well.
We could be in the NFL still. Shit.
My son could be Anthony Richardson. Yeah, why do we hang up our cleats? There you go.
I still feel good. Yeah, I could get out there.
This shoulder's got a few reps in it. Wait, so are you going to do what we're doing? Because our big 4-0 is coming up.
Are you going to get in the best shape of your life? That's what our plan is. You guys sound like guys that haven't been, like you're going to be signing up for a triathlon all of a sudden because you haven't had competition in the last 20 years.
You got to do all this crazy shit that nobody ever actually wants to do. I hope I'm never at that point.
That is not me. I'm cool with just going and working out with my trainer and feeling like I'm doing a good job and staying in shape.
Dude, if you don't keep up with it, by the time you hit 40, it's hard to get out of that little rut that you're in. So, listen, good luck.
I don't, I think're gonna have to in my experience i think you're gonna have to stick with it for like a good solid month and then you'll feel really good about yourself and it'll be easy from that point on i like how you're like hey yeah you guys got to stick with it you're in the nfl yeah yeah yeah you're right thanks joe i appreciate it is though like whatever shape you're when you turn 40, that's the shape that you're in for the rest of your life.

Yeah, that's probably not – if you've made it to 40 and you're in pretty decent shape,

you look around.

I mean, a lot of your friends that are in – like when you hit 30 years old,

it's just gone to hell.

So if you've made it to 40, then I would say that you have pretty good discipline

and you're probably going to do a pretty good job.

I hope so.

I hope you're right.

So, Joe, I'm not sure if you're aware of this,

but there are a lot of Colts fans with Joe Flacco jerseys.

They went out there and bought them right when you signed with the team.

We did a giveaway because we're season ticket holders,

and we gave away two tickets to fans that had Flacco jerseys.

And we got like six or seven submissions, which is – that's kind of crazy.

They must have just gone out and bought that right when you signed.

Yeah, listen, that's cool. I mean, I don't think those things are just readily available.
So you have to kind of special order them, I'm sure. Listen, my son's one of them, at least one of my kids are one of those purchases, you know, every, every freaking place I go to, it's like, I get off the phone and one minute later, we have to have like all the gear in the world from that team uh i i'd like to think that there's more than just family members that bought some yeah it might just be all family members yeah so how how do you like playing with the colts are you familiar with any of the uh any of the historical things or fascinating things unique things about that franchise or the fan base well listen i may be i mean look i came came from Baltimore.
I mean, the Colts started in Baltimore. So when you play with the Ravens, I mean, they do do a good job of honoring the Baltimore Colts legends.
And there are a lot of those guys that were still around the building. I mean, Lenny Moore was in the building every week, you know, so I think just naturally from being there, it's kind of a unique situation.
You do get a little bit of that history. And it's kind of weird that I've kind of come full circle with this thing.
I've said it to somebody before, but I've played in Baltimore who came from Cleveland, just played in Cleveland. And now I'm playing in Indy who came from Baltimore.
So it's kind of like that little, I've completed the little triangle there of all the Baltimore, of all those little teams. Yeah, Joe Flacco triangle.
That is fascinating, but I was speaking more specifically about the This Is Our Colts theme song that gets put out every week. Have you had a chance to listen to that? No.
You got to. That'll pump you the fuck up, Joe.
Here, I'll find it. Yeah, yeah, track that down.
And then you also have to learn about, you might have a word with Mr. Ursa about this because every week he decides whether or not the roof is going to be open or closed.
You were drafted in that division at the beginning because you had the arm that could play outdoors. Tell Jim, hey, man, leave the roof open.
This arm's got a few reps in it. Yeah, you're still pretty much indoors.
We can open up the roof and still feel pretty good about where we're at. All right, I'm going to find this for you because this guy, Seth, he does a great job.
He'll be pumped.

He'll be pumped that you listen to it. Alright, here it is.

This was the theme song for

the Steelers game.

This is our cult.

This is our team.

We bleed blue.

This is our cult.

Whether win or lose, we love them. For the shoe, beat the Steelers.
Let's steal another victory. This is our team.
Go Colts. Woo! And then he nays at the end.
Pretty awesome, right? Seth's got some good flow. I love it.
He makes a new one every week. Yeah, every single week.
It's game specific. There you go.
Are we going to get more Flacco this week? Oh, he might have to work Flacco in it. I don't know.
We're going to have to wait and see. Okay, that's a good answer.
That was a smart way to answer that. You don't know.
We're going to go to the training staff. We're going to figure this out.
Can you throw it farther than Anthony Richardson? I don't think so. Shit.
But we were saying, like, it's the perfect, like, when Anthony Richardson gets hurt, which we don't want him to get hurt, but you come in, it's not like, oh, now we can't take deep shots. We got Flacco.
Yeah, we want to take those shots down the field. We have to.
I think we got the guys to do it too, man. We got some guys that can run.
Yeah. Yeah.
when you went into the game and then came back out of the game did you think okay I'm done for the day like nice day at work clocked in clocked out at that point I was probably on a little bit more high alert because you're not really quite sure how he's feeling obviously I saw him run off the field and seemed like he was doing pretty well but you never know when something like that happens yeah to be honest with you from from the very beginning you're on high alert as a backup because it's it's a little bit of a different situation so yeah no i i was still kind of i think i'm like i don't know if i unbuckled my chin strap i don't remember really but yeah i'd be willing to bet that i didn't even do that so so you're a perfect person to ask this we were we were uh thinking about this this on Sunday night when we were watching the Ravens versus the Bills. The Ravens, when they go all black uniforms on Sunday night or Monday night, if you were a video game, we said it would be like plus five in strength.
Did you feel that for the team that all the hits were just a little bit harder when you were in the all blacks at night. Yeah,

for sure.

There was something about it,

man.

When you showed up,

when you had the black jerse in your locker and it was a big game,

you're like,

it gave you that little extra,

like nudge,

like that little bit extra confidence.

Like,

Oh yeah.

Like we're supposed to win this one.

We're,

we're definitely winning.

Like everything's on our side.

So there's something about it,

man.

But that,

that,

that place just in general,

like Baltimore during a night game, I mean, they do an unbelievable job of really bringing some energy in that stadium. I don't know if you guys have ever been to a game there, but it's got to be one of the best places to play in the league.
Yeah, I do like it when it's night. You're wearing the All Blacks.
You got all the fans wearing the Baltimore Ravens camo cargo shorts. He's like leading the team.
That's right. That's right.
I forget where I was this year and I saw, I actually saw some of those camo pants and I don't know why, but oh man, that brings back some stuff right there. Yeah.
They're the best pants in sports. I'll go and say it.
They are the best pants in football. Yes, absolutely.
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So we saw you out in Tahoe.

I want to ask about

your golf game. Also, your hands

are massive. I don't know if you

knew that, but when I shook your hand,

I was like, what the fuck? I just

didn't have a hand.

It's so funny. People just assume I think I have...
There's no good... I'm not going to explain my hands.
I was about to and I'm like, I don't know how that's going to come out. They're just massive.
Hold them up to the camera. Let's see that hand.
That's a nice hand. I actually didn't measure at the combine.
I don't think I measured off the charts in hand. I think I had an average size hand.
But, yeah, my golf game, that's not good. I don't play enough.
I don't play enough. I played terribly out there, but it was a lot of fun.
It was a cool experience for sure. Yeah, it's actually good.
I think we shook your hand before we shook Albert Pujols' hand out there, and that's good for you because Albert Pujols has the biggest, strongest hands and the crazy – I thought it was going to break my hand. Yeah, baseball players in general.
I mean, they're up there. They're swinging a bat for almost like who knows how many days a year, but obviously they play a million games.
Their forearm and wrist and hand strength is probably insane. Yeah, yeah.
Rice bucket. I just was like, oh my god, you almost broke my hand.
You weren't doing anything abnormal. You just got massive hands.
Just being Flacco. Yeah, just being flacco um all right well joe thank you uh

play forever please yeah please we just want to we want to because as long as you play because

you're you're like two weeks older than us uh you can keep the dream a lot yeah we can keep being

like you know what like we're still out there representation matters 85 january birthdays

that's that's important there we go all right man thanks so much appreciate it, Joe. Yeah.
I appreciate you guys having me on. Have a good one.
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Okay, let's wrap up. We've got Firefest of the week.
Henry, my guy. What's up? Oh, Hank.
Yeah. Something popped in my head the other day.
What's up? We were talking a lot about dunking yep and uh your plan and everything

and it it just hit me and i was like oh man we've been talking so much about dunking um

we haven't said the two most famous words in this show's history in a while cat bet no

let's go man no let's rip vanny woodhead oh yeah how's that going it's going

Thank you. No.
Let's go. No.
Let's rip. Vanny Woodhead.
Oh, yeah. How's that going? It's going.
What do you mean going? It's definitely not going. Conversations are being had.
No, it's not currently going, but things are in the works. I get a good mechanic if you want to talk to him.
Yeah. Do you? I don't know.
Vanny Woodhead. What was the last conversations that were had, to use your own phrase? I talked internally with our salespeople about how we can package it to make money so that we can get it fixed.
Ah, okay. So it sounds like a lot of progress.
Just waiting for some loopbacks. Loopbacks.
We got to get some loopbacks going on, per my last email. Yeah.
Parking lot, Vanny Woodhead. We should up the ante on Vanny and see if Vanny is actually worth getting back on the road.
And the only way we can do it is we find a mechanic, and we have to bring Vanny to the mechanic by towing it with the El Camino. That's challenge level impossible.
Double whammy. Probably not going to happen.
But Vanny, I feel like that's a no-brainer right we'll be able to do interviews in vanny just assume the money's already there yeah yeah i'm down for that i just that's not really how it works but okay well explain to us how it works business guy well like max is just tickled pink back there it's gonna cost a lot money to fix. So if we spend that money and then don't make it back.

Have you reached out to Exhibit yet?

It takes money to make money.

Correct.

Try hitting up Exhibit.

Do a Pimp My Ride.

Run it back.

Yeah.

Probably could.

I can't imagine he's that expensive.

Yeah.

You know what? We should guilt one of our friends along the way that we've said that owes us for their contract. Jared Goff, Josh Allen, Blake Griffin, maybe.
We've been working with some weed companies. I was like, what if we just turn it into a dope den? Oh, okay.
I like that. A dope den.
Okay. Build a bong out of the tailpipe? Yeah.
Fill it with water? Make it a gravity bong? A huge gravity bong. Okay..
So you really, it sounds like there's progress.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How much progress?

Doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter.

Progress is progress.

How much time do you have on that again?

Spring.

Spring, summer.

It'll happen.

Spring, summer.

Yeah, but as far as the actual spring in your legs goes for dunking,

now is the time where steroids come into play, right?

Yeah, I don't think I'm going to do steroids. We'll see.
Pussy. Yeah, you've changed.
Pussy. It's just hard to get.
Someone's got to be able to get it. When I did them the first time it was just given to me.
Yeah, we'll get them. Billy Football got them.
No. No.
Light Switch Lou got them. But Billy would be the plug.
Billy's got you. Billy the plug.
All right, your Firefest. My Firefest is that I'm a hoarder, and I've come to grips with it.
Welcome. You're in the right place.
We talked about it when we were cleaning the studio, and I've been thinking about it, doing it for a while, and I finally started the process. I have been doing it of nuking all my clothes and just starting fresh.
Yeah. Oh, it's the best feeling.
But in that process, I'm like, take all of these clothes off the hangers, put them in a place, go through them one by one. Like the, what is it? Marie Kondo.
Yeah. Yeah.
Does it give you joy? But there's things I haven't worn since I've moved to Chicago and I'm still like, yeah, you never know. T-shirts are the hardest.
Yeah. Everything's the hardest.
But T-shirts are like, oh, they're sentimental.

I have some nicer clothes.

We don't really dress nice, but I'm like, oh, what if the one occasion that I need this,

which will never happen.

Never happen.

And the only way for me to actually change, get a fresh style would be to, because otherwise

I'm just going to wear the same shit, which I've been doing.

So I'm just trying to get rid of everything, but I've realized I just.

Why don't you just one day you say.

Okay, I just going to wear the same shit which i've been doing so i'm just trying to get rid of everything but i've realized i just why don't just one day you say okay i'm going to do it every single t-shirt gone that's what i've been doing i took everything i put it in a pile in my room and i've been going through one by one and that's the that's where i've realized like i'm making no progress there because i'm like keeping all the stuff even though yeah i haven't worn it just you just got to spread it out did i ever tell you guys when when we lived in in new york in my old apartment in brooklyn i had a closet uh that was higher than taller than me in terms of how much shit i had in it yeah when i went to move it was it was probably eight feet tall this closet just full of shit and now that i have a house the good news is i just have piles in secret places that like are you know like there's a little garage pile there's a little this basement pile you just you keep them you keep them spread out and it's harder to to pin me down as a hoarder yeah i have an extra bedroom that turned started that's turned into a closet so you're good like what's in here it's like oh yeah just a one giant pile it's also it's funny sometimes when you're going through your old t-shirts and you see a shirt that you made that's like specifically for 2016 back it's like coach o riding a tiger riding mike the tiger and you're like what do i do with this and then you think about donating it and you're like oh shit what if somebody sees this uh like pft football guy shirt where i'm kicking a field goal in the xfl like somebody sees that in a goodwill and then they're like man pft on hard times everyone's giving away his t-shirts you see them everywhere i have that happen here where there's just like producers and behind the scenes guys will just be walking around with with old sweatshirts and shirts that I have because I gave away my whole pile in New York and it's just traveled here. So the other day, there was just a guy walking around with a Wisconsin Taz sweatshirt.
It's like, that's mine. Is there somebody that- Oh, yeah.
Someone's wearing that Danny Ricardo shirt. I have the same shirt.
I was like, where did you order that shirt? He's like, no, it's in the pile. Yeah, right.
Or a hat. And I'm like, yeah, that's my hat.
I didn't know you were in the dead they're like no i just took this from your pile and someone that was actually another moment of realization because someone came up to me was like hey can i have this sweatshirt and i was like no i want it and then i was like wait i haven't seen that sweatshirt and you're like just take it my initial reaction was like no i want that even though it's been here i didn't know it was here i haven't thought about it i didn't try and find it but it's a beautiful thing to dress other men i'm just dressing other men have you walking around just hiring somebody to come to your apartment and just take the clothes just be like you don't need this oh you want us to stage a robber we'll stage a robbery that's probably what i come and rob you walk in yeah it needs to all be gone because yeah you can't do it yourself just give us your key and we'll come rob you. And you can just be like, oh, well, then you can maybe get insurance fraud.
Like that. What about hoarding spiders? Is that a problem for you too? Nope.
Just battling. Battling.
Okay. The battle goes.
PFT. My Fire Fest was on Tuesday morning.
True. I talked about it on the show.
So my car got towed. It's at the mechanic.
And I told um i have a a very deep fear that i still haven't called my mechanic to get get a follow-up on what's wrong with it because my deepest fear is that he's going to be like yeah there's no gas in it oh man would you be the biggest asshole but i don't think that's what happened so the gas gauge is broken on there but i filled it up with like 40 gas. And then I drove it, I want to say four times back and forth to the office and that's it.
So that would mean that the mileage would have to be about like 2.5 miles per gallon. Could be.
Could be. And that's, it's not unrealistic to think that the mileage on that thing is that bad.
But yeah, I'm just basically too much of a coward to call my mechanic and find out what's wrong because I'm afraid he's going to make me feel dumb. Yeah.
Yeah, that would suck. Yeah.
He'd be the biggest asshole ever. I don't think that's what it was, but that's the fear that's preventing me from checking up on it.
Yeah, I think you just never... I think you need to have...
I think he just owns that car now. I think you just need to have someone else reach out to your mechanic and be like, hey, I'll call him and I'll just be like, hey, if it's no gas just let's just not say it yeah or do we do we stage a robbery there and to fill up the gas tank like break in and put gas in my car yeah and then if he's like it was empty like no it's not it's not check again you're an idiot double check yeah you're a bad mechanic triple check i don't think that's what the problem was but there's like a 10 chance that i feel like a big asshole.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's tough. All right.
My fire fest. I've alluded to it, but I'm starting to get really anxious about what I'm going to be for Halloween.
I know you guys probably don't deal with this, but I need to nail my Halloween costume and my kids keep changing every single day what they want to be. And I can't base it off of them.
I have to base it off them and they keep they keep changing so what the fuck do i do you don't want to be batman they're not into batman the options right now are two days ago it was spider-man so then i was gonna be like all right i'll be doc or iron man uh yes you do doc though yeah i have a doc costume yesterday was uh a fireman so i just have to do that again. Easy.
This morning it was Super Mario,

which I would love to be Bowser. Or Wario.
You could be a good Wario. I could be a good Wario.
But if I buy Wario and then a day before he's like, hey, we're going to be cops and robbers or we're going to be firemen, what do I do? I just think I have to buy six costumes. I got a good one for the whole family.
Well, can't you? Isn't your enough Where you can just give him a costume Yeah he'll just be a fucking pumpkin So you can match with him no matter what Nah You gotta do the kids that are like The five and three year old They're aware of Halloween They're excited about Halloween I gotta build it up for them I have a question Yeah So you keep Do you keep getting all of these costumes i have not but i'm getting anxious because they haven't given me the the the answer to what they want to be for halloween changes every like 24 hours why don't you just be like okay what do you want to be we're getting it right now and this is what you're gonna they're gonna change it again my daughter also said she wanted me to be poop that's good like legitimate

just poop yeah goes the poop emoji they probably have poop emoji costumes for sure so i might just do that about this nba photo day was earlier this week what if you went as lebron and then you had your son go as brawny yeah and then one of the other kids dresses up as jj yeah suit and then the other one's a basketball. I like that.
I think that could work. I like that.
Did you see that, JJ, there's a DJ at the Lakers practice? It's already happening to our good friend, JJ Redick. Yeah, I did see that.
Will Compton's best friend, Max's mortal enemy. They asked, what's the deal with the DJ? He said, that's LeBron's call.
And he's like, I don't know who's paying for it, but we have a DJ at practice. Apparently, they had a big wine summit before the season started where he was going to lay out what the rules were going to be over a bottle of wine with LeBron.
And then LeBron was going to communicate those to the rest of the team so they don't have to waste practice time going over the rules. So in this game of wine telephone, I feel like LeBron is just going to give his rules to the team but jj can be like i told lebron what my rules were yeah he feels like he's getting forced to play brawny he's getting forced i mean he's probably gonna get forced to play brawny he's getting forced to have a dj at the practice i mean jj was you know he he came up with coach k.
There's no way he wants a DJ at practice.

But that's happening.

It'd be funny if he made them wear Duke uniforms in practice.

And then took them away.

So they can take away the letter D.

I just hope LeBron's nice to our friend JJ.

That'd be nice.

I think it'd be good for basketball if they were good.

He's got a good track record.

Yeah.

But yeah, I got to figure out what I'm going to be for Halloween.

I'll let you guys know.

I don't know. Maybe you guys might have to just.
just paint your nails gotta kill the wounds jersey yeah sure that'd be cool i thought hank was being nice i feel like a lot of guys i'm looking at him i'm trying to decide whether i need to go on attack mode or be like good good suggestion thanks okay yeah i Okay. Yeah.
I had to visually figure it out. He goes Eberflus.
Get a sick haircut. Just put my head in a toilet.
Just get a sick haircut. Yeah.
All right. Good show, boys.
Let's do numbers. Memes is back.
Memes. I didn't say that it would be funny if number three was called when you weren't here.

You didn't?

I did.

It would have been funny.

It would have been funny if we had number three.

Yeah, that would have sucked.

Let me go with five.

Shane and Pug here.

See, there's another one.

Shane, where'd you get that sweatshirt?

Where'd you get that sweatshirt?

Where'd you get that sweatshirt? Depop. Oh, I thought maybe it was a pile.
Nope. I got Shane a Chargers sweatshirt from the, they only sell it at the SoFi Stadium, so I hit up my Chargers Connect.
Shane came to my office, and the way he thanked me, it was like I saved his life he was just like thank you so much

it was very it's like a nice moment between us but it was just like it's a sweatshirt is it sick it is sick it's a sick sweatshirt i'm just appreciative i know but it was like yeah well i mean i did because i love you but like it was it was just like i was like borderline tears it was borderline tears he was getting choked up thanking me shane how many people did you he texted me about a connected sofa.

I was like,

I don't have a connected sofa.

I was like,

what are you need this for? He's like, there's a sweatshirt there. I can only get it there.
And I was like, all right, man. I guess it was more that you were so appreciative and all it took me to do was just send one simple text.
So it was like, yeah, it's not a big deal. I'll do anything for my boys.
But yeah, it was a touching moment. Yeah, I mean, it was inconvenient for you.
It was not inconvenient at all. That was my point.
All I said was, hey, my producers, who you met, wants this sweatshirt. Could you send us one? And they're like, yeah, no problem.
Oh, well, I'm still thankful. Yeah.
Now he's going to text you all the time You shouldn't have said how easy it was

I'll get more

I'll get more for my boys

Alright, numbers 3, 5 26 21 26 16 41 16.

41.

41.