NFL Week 2, Fastest 2 Minutes, Ravens + Bengals In Trouble? Chiefs Are Inevitable + Bears Lose A SNF Stinker

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Speaker 16 On today's part of my take, week two of the NFL.

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Speaker 4 The crown is yours. Today is Monday, September 16th,

Speaker 7 week

Speaker 10 two.

Speaker 45 We start in Dallas, where there was little border control at the goal line for Alvin Kamara Harris as he scored four times on Sunday.

Speaker 9 Derek Cardi D had a wet-ass pussy, and when I say pussy, I'm I'm talking about his throwing game as the Saints put that whop on Bodak Prescott to the tune of 44 points hey Tege you heard this one you hear about this one tell me about it they call him Jersey Mike McCarthy because Jerry is gonna need a sub as a head coach sooner than later he's not on a roll boom saints go marching 44 cowboys 19

Speaker 72 Up north where Sam Darnold and the Monosota Vikings put the kiss of death on Kyle Shanahan Justin Thomas Jefferson had so much free room on his 97-yard cutback touchdown, it was like the Louisiana Purchase.

Speaker 72 George Skittle said, Taste the rainbow, bitch, after scoring a touchdown, leaving Harrison Booker Smith to shake his head in disgust. The Vikings win, and the Vikings are 2-0.

Speaker 10 The Vikings?

Speaker 10 With Sam Darnold?

Speaker 63 With Sam Darnold?

Speaker 63 Vikings, 23.

Speaker 63 The Niners, 17.

Speaker 72 In Baltimore, where the Raiders were down in the fourth quarter, when Gardner Minshew said, Go, go, Bower Rangers, as he hooked up with Brock Bowers in Las Vegas, morphed into an explosive offense.

Speaker 68 Daniel Carl's son Zoo said, The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without them realizing you're a real football team.

Speaker 10 Lamar Jackson had a chance at the end with a whoop and a whoop whoop and a whoop and a fumble, and the Ravens fall to 0-2.

Speaker 10 The

Speaker 68 26. Ravens 23.

Speaker 72 We go up to Raojon, Maryland, as an opening kickoff left the Giants with Gno kicker to work with.

Speaker 72 Brian Dayball looked like his brain was in outer space, emerging as the worst challenger since former Washington commander Ronald Reagan's administration.

Speaker 82 Too soon, boom. O-rings.

Speaker 72 That's the sound the Rocket made.

Speaker 72 Austin Siebert and Ernie said seven. Seven is the number of the day as the new Washington kicker accounted for all 21 points of offense.
Malik, it's a beautiful day in the neighborshood.

Speaker 72 Took his sweater and his shoes off and got comfortable in the secondary. But Brian from Family Guy Robinson had that dog in him.

Speaker 72 Leaving the Giants linebackers feeling very heaty. Comies, 21.
Giants, 18.

Speaker 83 And we go to Nashville to our correspondent, Memes, who did not delete everything off his phone.

Speaker 80 Memes.

Speaker 84 We go to Nashville where it was a wonderful day in Mr. Aaron Rodgers' neighborhood.

Speaker 84 Calvin Cambridge Ridley found a pair of touchdowns and said make me like Mike while Tony Polaroid Picture was an outcast in the second half.

Speaker 84 Will Levis Favre tried to take advantage with the Johnson being out, but Will McDonald said I'll take a number three.

Speaker 10 Sacks that is. Ooh.

Speaker 85 Bray Lynn Allen was getting there when you masturbate.

Speaker 77 Think about my legs going back and forth and running into the end zone.

Speaker 84 Jets 24, Titans 17.

Speaker 78 Thank you, memes. And then we head to New England.
The keeper of the lighthouse, Henry Lockwood, was on scene.

Speaker 75 Former keeper of the lighthouse, boom.

Speaker 78 Yes, and he didn't keep anything.

Speaker 87 Today, the keeper of the lighthouse was Malcolm Butler, who was there to keep the light and lead the Patriots, celebrating the 10-year anniversary of the greatest play in Super Bowl history.

Speaker 87 Gino Jaden Smith said, Yeah, I went 33 for 44 with 327 yards in a taught e to DK Met Calf.

Speaker 9 Breaking moves.

Speaker 87 But can we talk about the political and economic state of the world right now?

Speaker 87 Ramadre Lance Stevenson blew through the Seahawks defense into the ends over six to tie the game up in regulation. Jake Mike Myers was asked to kick three field goals and said, yeah, baby.

Speaker 10 Including the game winner in overtime.

Speaker 87 Patriots 20. Seattle Super Seahawks 23.

Speaker 71 Thanks, Hank.

Speaker 82 Good job, Hank. O'Brien Boom.

Speaker 79 To the stadium formerly known as Burrowhead, where a big man got in on the scoring as Wanya, Wanya, Wanya, Fanta, Morris caught a touchdown from Patrick Mahomes to take an early second half lead.

Speaker 73 The Bengals used a blue shell, finding

Speaker 74 Andre Yoshiva, Yoshi for short, for his second touchdown of the game.

Speaker 73 But it wouldn't be a Chiefs game if the Zebras didn't get involved as a late DPI led to Taylor Swift's favorite player, Harrison.

Speaker 68 I like big Buckers, and I cannot lie, as the Chiefs win a thriller. 26, 25.

Speaker 71 It's kind of ironic that she loves Harrison Bucker.

Speaker 67 I'm not going to say it.

Speaker 75 It's very ironic, boom.

Speaker 9 You're absolutely right.

Speaker 72 Out west to Denver, where Tebow Nick's mania has yet to set in as a rookie quarterback continued to struggle in his daddy, Sean Payton's offense. J.D.

Speaker 72 Vance Joseph couldn't stop the Steelers as Darnelli for Tito Washington was a man-eater after he cooked his defender for a score.

Speaker 72 There's no luck-shaming in Colorado as the Broncos used Will to make sure their number wasn't zero.

Speaker 63 Steelers 13, the Broncos six

Speaker 9 standing on the corner, Jameis wins in Cuyahoga.

Speaker 13 Such a fine sight to see.

Speaker 10 It's Deshaun, my lord, heading to Jerome Port.

Speaker 12 And Jameis running QB sneaks.

Speaker 10 No more updowns. He scored a touchdown.

Speaker 9 Deshaun hates PMT,

Speaker 10 but he loved cometown.

Speaker 68 Browns 18, Jaguars, 13.

Speaker 73 We kind of nailed that one to you.

Speaker 81 That was good.

Speaker 75 The harmony sounded good, boom. Yeah.

Speaker 93 All right, week two, fastest two minutes.

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Speaker 1 Okay, week two in the books.

Speaker 67 Let's talk some games, PFT.

Speaker 30 We had a 10-game slate to start the day in

Speaker 27 crazy.

Speaker 75 Too many games at once. Every week,

Speaker 75 I don't know if this is going to continue through the regular season, but at least through the first two weeks, at some point, I get lost in football. Yeah.

Speaker 75 I feel like I'm just spinning through a vortex. Yeah.
And I get the games. I start making like a melange of games.

Speaker 75 You ever have like dreams where you combine seven different things that happened between like your work and personal life?

Speaker 75 I'm out there, and I'm thinking like Baker Mayfield is getting sacked by like Josh Allen Hines from the Tag Wars at some point. I'm like, what's going on here? I can't straighten it out.

Speaker 75 I need to get better.

Speaker 30 Yeah, we're basically watching these games and we're the Tasmanian devil and there's just a cloud of dust and then the witching hour ends.

Speaker 100 We're like, wait, what just happened?

Speaker 46 And actually, we'll start with this game because this is the perfect encapsulation of what we're talking about.

Speaker 106 So I'd say the theme of this week was we had some pretty big upsets and Raiders 26, Ravens 23 was the biggest in terms of point spread and it also was the biggest in terms of as we were watching all the games, the Ravens were up 10 with like 13 minutes left and we all thought, oh, that game's over.

Speaker 104 And then we looked up and said, wait, the Raiders are about to win this game and now the Raiders are 1-1 and the Ravens are 0-2.

Speaker 75 Yeah, Max Crosby happened.

Speaker 9 Max Crosby happened.

Speaker 75 And then Brock Bowers got unlocked unlocked this week.

Speaker 52 As I was going to say,

Speaker 77 the Raiders, I think, are the number one team where I don't think they're good, but they have really good players because Gardner Minshew was under attack all day, but he then also reminded himself that he has Devontae Adams and Brock Bowers, who are both very, very good.

Speaker 25 And they won a game that I think we all thought was over.

Speaker 67 And now the Ravens are sitting here 0-2, and you're like, what the fuck's going on with them?

Speaker 114 And they have Dallas, Buffalo, and Cincy coming up next three weeks.

Speaker 75 Are we sure that the Ravens Ravens are good?

Speaker 96 They might not be.

Speaker 75 Now, they did have a shitload of penalties. Again, the offensive line is not good for the Ravens right now.

Speaker 83 10 penalties for 109 yards.

Speaker 104 Again, they were undisciplined.

Speaker 107 Again, they played sloppy.

Speaker 32 And I do think the Ravens are always good for one or two of these games a year where they just look like they're about to win a game, and then you look up and you say, What just happened?

Speaker 48 But it's significant because it's 0-2, and this is the first time the Ravens have started 0-2 since 2015, which is a long time.

Speaker 105 And now you're wondering, like, what?

Speaker 18 I'll read those games again.

Speaker 48 Dallas at Dallas versus Buffalo at Cincy.

Speaker 75 Yeah, it's going to be tough.

Speaker 12 It's going to be tough.

Speaker 77 It might have to be my pinky team.

Speaker 75 I think that they're probably a good pinky team to have because you know that they're going to be in contention.

Speaker 22 You're going to stemming.

Speaker 75 Lamar fans, it's going to be you versus Stavros. It's going to be you versus Jimmy Seafood.

Speaker 75 There's going to be a lot of

Speaker 75 no love lost in any of those matchups.

Speaker 9 Shout out the Raiders, though.

Speaker 75 Shout out the Raiders. Tough win.
I like that we called the Alexander Madison baby ball. Yep.
We told you. We told you about that.
He's been holding a baby all week.

Speaker 75 So that's better, actually, than when you, like a coach tells you, walk around holding a football all week. So you fumble.
If you're holding a baby, you got three points of contact.

Speaker 75 You're not dropping that thing. Yes.
Can't hold a baby like a loaf of bread. Madison got in.

Speaker 119 I'm also happy for Antonio Pierce because after the worst punt ever last week, I think everyone had the same thought of, are we sure he's head coach material?

Speaker 14 And then to have this win on the road, eight and a half point underdogs, down 10 with 12 minutes left, that's impressive.

Speaker 67 The Raiders are back to being a salty dog.

Speaker 85 Also, of note,

Speaker 120 this is the first time since 1980 that

Speaker 121 for everyone who does survivor leagues,

Speaker 44 that

Speaker 104 the biggest favorite in week one and the biggest favorite in week two both lost.

Speaker 75 Yeah, it's crazy. I got eliminated this week.
Yeah.

Speaker 104 The Bengals last week against the Patriots, and then the Ravens this week against

Speaker 6 the Raiders.

Speaker 40 So everyone's bracket is busted.

Speaker 75 Yeah, it's bad. It is bad for me.
I'm in Matt Jones' Survivor League right now, and I think like half the pool got eliminated in week two.

Speaker 115 Yeah, someone's going to win in week three.

Speaker 75 It's okay, but you know what? Here's the thing: is there are too many leagues that I'm in, right? When it comes to fantasy football, first touchdown score, other fantasy football, survivor.

Speaker 75 There's just too many different ways that you have to compete about watching football. Yes.
And I can't win them all. Yeah.
I'm lucky if I win one.

Speaker 122 And it's good to have this one just off the books.

Speaker 75 Yeah, so I don't even have to worry about it. That's one less text that I have to send on Thursdays every year.
Exactly.

Speaker 9 So, yeah, I'm in agreement with you.

Speaker 31 That is, it does feel like the Survivor League is, you don't pay attention to your Survivor League picks until like week seven.

Speaker 24 That's when you have to actually start thinking about it.

Speaker 46 I know that there will be some people like, hey, I mapped this whole thing out the whole time and I'm really smart about it.

Speaker 24 Well, that's not us.

Speaker 123 No.

Speaker 40 We think about it right before kickoff on Thursday night and then say, oh, who's the biggest

Speaker 124 spread?

Speaker 46 Okay, let's use them. And if you did that, you would have been out double.

Speaker 75 I think that two years in a row, not this year, because obviously I just got balanced this year, but the prior two years, I was eliminated by week five for not submitting a pick.

Speaker 75 Yeah, so that's just it's honestly good that I got eliminated this early. Yeah, I'm happy with that, but yeah, the credit to the Raiders.
I'm told that Antonio Pierce does have an analytics guy

Speaker 75 that tells him what to do. And Antonio Pierce just said, No, I'm going to go with my gut in week one.
It was Deu Scruton. It was, it was not Deuce Gruden.
That'd be a great analytics guy.

Speaker 75 Just like pick up heavier stuff. We were converting everything to kilograms.

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 97 I have a question for you, PFT.

Speaker 33 Derrick Henry.

Speaker 6 So he started very slow.

Speaker 125 He was good in the second half.

Speaker 91 Yep.

Speaker 32 But is that an issue for the Ravens in the fact that if you have Derrick Henry, the only way that you can effectively use Derrick Henry is that you have to keep running Derrick Henry?

Speaker 108 So you can have moments where you're like, hey, this isn't working, but we have to go through the wall.

Speaker 105 and

Speaker 115 keep running him in order to get the effective Derrick Henry.

Speaker 30 And he's clearly not the same as he was three or four years ago.

Speaker 86 No running back is.

Speaker 75 He does look better in the Ravens outfit, though.

Speaker 75 Those colors look awesome on Derrick Henry.

Speaker 91 He also had a nasty, nasty old-school Derrick Henry stiff arm that rocked.

Speaker 18 But is that, are you too beholden to Derrick Henry when you know that the only way to use him correctly is you just have to keep going, even if it's not working.

Speaker 75 See, I think that's exactly why they got him because the knock against the Ravens last year in the playoffs was they abandoned the run. So by having Derrick Henry on your team, it's almost

Speaker 75 forcing you like, hey, remember, you have to keep running the football because if you don't, there's no use in having Derrick Henry on your team.

Speaker 60 I was just thinking about it because, and I think the Ravens are going to end up being a playoff team.

Speaker 14 That's why I kind of don't want them to make my pinky team.

Speaker 31 Just a reminder, my pinky team is a team that has Super Bowl aspirations, starts 0-2.

Speaker 108 I say I'll cut off the tip of my pinky if they win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 67 I'm contrary to popular belief, I think people think that I'm trying to do it to pick a team that I still think can win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 33 I'm doing it because I think this team cannot win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 And I think the Ravens could still win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 31 So that's why, like, being true to myself, I can't really pick them.

Speaker 75 But I was thinking about it just. Some people will call you a coward for that.

Speaker 115 No, because the whole thing started with crossing a team off and saying they cannot win the Super Bowl if I

Speaker 77 like,

Speaker 60 why would I pick them if I still think they can win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 21 You won't.

Speaker 5 Right. You won't do it.

Speaker 104 I see what's happening here.

Speaker 56 I'm going to go back to the Derrick Henry talk.

Speaker 9 You're not going to do it.

Speaker 33 I was thinking about it because the Titans were, their identity was Derrick Henry.

Speaker 30 The Ravens have more guys than the Titans did.

Speaker 115 So

Speaker 59 is there

Speaker 79 this is

Speaker 79 not?

Speaker 10 I might be wrong.

Speaker 75 I know what you're saying because they have to spread the ball around.

Speaker 75 They can't rely on just being like Derrick Henry-focused offense because they've got Lamar Jackson, who's also great at running the football.

Speaker 75 He's got Zay Flowers, Isaiah Likely, and Mark Andrews. They've got good players on offense, and their offense has been good not having to just run the ball down your throat the entire time.

Speaker 75 Like they do more interesting stuff with their running game than the Titans did, which was Titans would just hear Derrick Henry, you take it. Tractor Cito season.

Speaker 30 Yeah, and he wasn't the problem today because, like I said, he did play well in the second half and got it going.

Speaker 115 It was just a thought.

Speaker 75 Yeah, no, I don't think it's a terrible thought to have.

Speaker 75 I think that the Ravens have, they've got a lot of issues, but I wouldn't look too heavily into Derrick Henry being a deep problem with the team just yet. Yeah.

Speaker 75 But he might not be the same Derrick Henry that we've seen in the past. I think that's fair to say.

Speaker 19 It just sucks when he starts slow and it's like, I think he had like seven carries for four yards to start the game, but that's kind of how it goes with him.

Speaker 75 I have a question for you, Big Cat.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 75 Is Justin Tucker washed? Yes.

Speaker 70 He is.

Speaker 118 Washed compared to peak Justin Tucker 100%.

Speaker 75 Yes, he's no longer Justin Tucker.

Speaker 97 He's no longer, hey, we have a 50-yard field goal.

Speaker 30 We're going to make it because we have Justin Tucker.

Speaker 75 Yeah, he got out-kicked today. Yeah.
This is actually a Tucker-Carlson game.

Speaker 10 There are also

Speaker 33 like two or three kickers that you could say off the top of your head that are better than him.

Speaker 75 Harrison Bucker.

Speaker 10 Aubrey from the Cowboys is better.

Speaker 115 Yep.

Speaker 4 McPherson might be.

Speaker 75 I I don't know. Missed an extra point today.
But yeah, yeah.

Speaker 75 I know what you're saying. Justin Tucker, he used to be automatic.
This is crazy to say. This is an insane statement to make.
He used to be automatic from 60 and in. Yeah.

Speaker 9 It would be

Speaker 10 never a problem.

Speaker 85 Never a problem for him.

Speaker 46 Yeah, and he did miss.

Speaker 30 What did he miss? A 50-yarder?

Speaker 75 Yeah, I think it was another bomb today. So don't get me wrong, I would love to have Justin Tucker.
Well, actually, no, I wouldn't. My kicker did miss a field goal today.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 127 Competitiveness.

Speaker 70 That's the thing that sucks for Justin Tucker is that we just compare him to old Justin Tucker.

Speaker 111 Yeah.

Speaker 104 So it's not that he sucks.

Speaker 43 He's still a very good kicker.

Speaker 61 He just, we expect him to make every single kick no matter what.

Speaker 46 Yeah.

Speaker 43 And now he's missed a few 50 yarders.

Speaker 128 Like, oh, well, he's kind of washed.

Speaker 75 Yeah.

Speaker 67 He was still still better than 90% of the kickers.

Speaker 75 This might be a Harbaugh problem. Harbaugh maybe hasn't realized that.
If he just uses Justin Tucker like a regular kicker, then he's going to be one of the best kickers in the league. Yeah.

Speaker 19 By the way, we still don't have a team that's lost the two Harbaugh brothers back-to-back.

Speaker 75 That is true.

Speaker 106 According to our research.

Speaker 75 And John Harbaugh is now one and one against Brothers this year. Yeah.

Speaker 116 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 85 Okay.

Speaker 111 Bucs Lions.

Speaker 67 Bucs 20.

Speaker 104 Lions 16.

Speaker 6 That was my gutsy win of the week by the Bucs.

Speaker 9 Gutsy, gutsy win.

Speaker 27 Because that was a Baker-Mayfield win.

Speaker 103 They had a ton of injuries on defensive back or secondary.

Speaker 25 They had Vita Vey went out halfway through the game.

Speaker 101 They got offensive line issues.

Speaker 67 They just found a way to win that game.

Speaker 6 And we'll talk about the lines in a sec, but I want to give props to Baker, who I just love watching and rooting for.

Speaker 3 He got sacked three times in the first quarter by Aiden Hutchinson.

Speaker 66 Most guys would be like, fuck this, I'm out.

Speaker 97 And he was just big play after big play, that QB draw for the go-ahead touchdown.

Speaker 104 It was the second team since 1970 to win despite being outgained by 200 plus yards and having a minus five sack differential.

Speaker 101 I don't know how many times that's happened, but

Speaker 30 that on paper, that's a bad game if you get outgamed by 200 and you have a minus five sack differential.

Speaker 75 It's very hard to win those games without the other team straight up giving you those games. And the Lions did make a couple mistakes, but the Bucs, you're right about Baker.

Speaker 75 Like when he runs with the football, we forget that Baker's sneaky elusive. Yes.

Speaker 75 Like not only is he tough, not only is he going to put his head down and try to run you over, but Baker in the open field, he will make a guy miss every time. Yeah.
And he's so fun to watch.

Speaker 75 I think it's because he carries the ball with almost a straight arm down at his legs as he's juking you out.

Speaker 75 A lot of other players will tuck it up and run, but he's got the ball dangling out there too. Like he's almost distracting you with it.
Gives you the dead legs, steps around you.

Speaker 75 And yeah, the Bucs, you called it the gutsy win of the week?

Speaker 115 Yeah, the gutsy win of the week.

Speaker 75 I think this might be Todd Bulls' signature win.

Speaker 132 Yeah, he won a playoff game.

Speaker 85 He won a playoff game, but he won a playoff game.

Speaker 75 But I'm going to give Todd Bullows his signature win this week. Okay.

Speaker 9 Signature win this year.

Speaker 75 This is a signature win for Todd Bullows. We've all been waiting for one.

Speaker 60 It was like

Speaker 107 they shouldn't have won that game if you just look at the box score and the Lions were able to move the ball and then they just stalled in the red zone.

Speaker 101 I think they were one for seven in the red zone.

Speaker 2 And the big issue, there were two big issues for the Lions.

Speaker 67 Jared didn't play well and Dan Campbell cost him.

Speaker 75 At the end of the first half.

Speaker 104 And I don't even know what was happening at the end of the game when they didn't take any shots to the end zone.

Speaker 75 Yeah, that was weird, too. That was very strange.
Dan Campbell,

Speaker 27 I love that he's, I think he's so disgusted with himself that he can't say the word I.

Speaker 41 So after the game, he said in the press conference, I asked for improvement.

Speaker 25 I guess he said I there.

Speaker 121 I asked for improvement from last week.

Speaker 67 We did improve.

Speaker 112 Their coach cost them.

Speaker 100 Their head coach cost them this one.

Speaker 75 I like that. He's making himself either a fan or a member of the media.

Speaker 2 It's like a disassociation of their head coach cost them this one.

Speaker 75 I like that a lot. Yeah.
I like that a lot. That's a really powerful way of taking accountability.
That's way better than saying we.

Speaker 133 Yeah.

Speaker 30 Yeah, exactly. It's way better than saying we.

Speaker 133 And Dan Campbell did cost him a game.

Speaker 109 Like, it was, he had multiple channels.

Speaker 43 I mean, he did a classic Dan Campbell where he ended up doing a fake punt out of the end zone that worked.

Speaker 85 But he also punted, I think, with like 10, 13 minutes left from the 41, which was a little weird.

Speaker 5 I think it was a fourth and seven, but still, I don't know.

Speaker 12 Dan Campbell was kind of all over the place.

Speaker 75 I think Dan Campbell is the league leader for the last three seasons of people saying, if that doesn't work out, that's a fireball offense. Yeah.
After it worked out. Yeah.

Speaker 75 You know, somehow it usually works out for Dan. But the end of the first half, they were in complete disarray.

Speaker 75 They were trying to get the field goal unit onto the field at the same time as the offense was running a play. Yeah, so I think they ended up having like 20 guys on 25 men on the field.

Speaker 101 25.

Speaker 75 That's slightly too many men on the field at any given time. And yeah,

Speaker 75 their coach really sold them short on that one. Yeah.
So Dan Campbell, not a good job there.

Speaker 110 Well, no, Dan Campbell's fine. It's their head coach.

Speaker 75 Whoever their head coach happened to be. Their head coach.

Speaker 97 Yeah, fuck that up.

Speaker 75 Yeah, but I guess you could say the Bucs have now beaten two outstanding teams. Yeah.
I think I I have the Bucs number one in my power rankings right now. Yeah, there you go.
So that's good.

Speaker 107 Commanders in the Lions.

Speaker 75 Commanders and the Lions. And also, if you're a Lions fan, just remind yourself that last year you won week one

Speaker 75 and then you lost week two. That's a good reminder.
You lost to the Seahawks at home week two last year. So this has happened before, and your team turned out fine.

Speaker 32 And you improved. Yes.

Speaker 2 Because Dan Campbell said you improved.

Speaker 124 It's just that their head coach did that.

Speaker 75 Their head coach said it to him.

Speaker 83 Their head coach screwed that one. Yep.

Speaker 123 Yeah.

Speaker 62 It also, this is why you can't do the the commercials because then people were clowning on the Applebee's commercial after that first half, end of first half.

Speaker 67 You just gave it to people.

Speaker 127 But that's their head coach.

Speaker 65 That's their head coach.

Speaker 75 That's not Dan Campbell. That's their actor.
Yeah, that's their actor. That's their actor who's different from their head coach.

Speaker 67 Who just plays a coach on TV?

Speaker 75 Yeah, their actor did a great job. Yeah.

Speaker 129 Okay.

Speaker 13 Next up, I had Saints, Cowboys.

Speaker 18 Saints 44, Cowboys 19.

Speaker 98 PFT, here's my question for you.

Speaker 44 If we were just going off of two weeks, are the Saints the best team in the NFL?

Speaker 135 Yes. They are.

Speaker 75 Second best.

Speaker 122 I think they are the best team in the NFL if you go off two weeks.

Speaker 75 I think that the entire NFC South is a lot better than we thought it was going to be.

Speaker 115 Yeah, I'd agree with that.

Speaker 80 But the Saints are,

Speaker 9 so their

Speaker 107 cumulative scores are 91 to 20.

Speaker 110 They have not had a second where they've been trailing in the first two games.

Speaker 104 Their defense is nasty.

Speaker 57 Derek Carr, 11-year bump, looks awesome.

Speaker 13 Alvin Kamara looks like like old school Alvin Kamara.

Speaker 97 He had 180 yards and four touchdowns.

Speaker 75 And their offensive line looked really good today.

Speaker 27 Yes, they kept him.

Speaker 85 So not only that, but Derek Carr,

Speaker 94 first 15 drives of the season, the Saints scored points.

Speaker 31 Now, they took him out of the game against the Panthers and they punted twice, but the next closest, next best was the 2000 Falcons started their season with seven straight drive scoring points.

Speaker 6 15 straight drive scoring points for the Saints.

Speaker 67 If you had to do a BCS poll, the Saints would be number one.

Speaker 75 Yeah, I mean, they have looked unstoppable. And it's not the Panthers that they're playing against.
The Cowboys and their defensive line is supposed to be really, really good.

Speaker 75 We saw week one that they can play really well, and the big question was going to be for the offensive line. They held up really well today.

Speaker 75 And so if you add that in to what they're doing with their offense with Rashid Shaheed and Alvin Kamara just getting open all the time. Looking like old school.
Old school Alvin Kamara.

Speaker 75 It's tough to imagine a team that you would put ahead of them besides the Buccaneers.

Speaker 123 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Hank, as a Cowboys fan, did you see the...

Speaker 67 Now, I don't really believe it, but it was still funny to think it might be real.

Speaker 67 Someone tweeted out that a Cowboys fan, Joan O'Barnes tweeted out, a Cowboys fan just airdropped this to my entire section.

Speaker 14 If we don't fire Mike McCarthy, I'm beating the fuck out of everybody here.

Speaker 62 Don't think it's real, but still kind of funny.

Speaker 128 Just to imagine that a Cowboys fan, I mean, you're a Cowboys fan.

Speaker 62 That's kind of what you guys get angry about.

Speaker 82 Yeah, I mean, I kind of gave up my fandom last year after the playoffs. We talked about it, but I think you got to have the conversation.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Well, this was, in a weird way, spin zone for Cowboys fans.

Speaker 5 This felt like a playoff loss because usually when the Cowboys get to the playoffs, they have a game where Dak maybe like on paper isn't like the main problem, but their defense gets bullied.

Speaker 60 And if you watch the game, you're like, oh, yeah, Dak, he didn't play so, so bad, but he also missed some guys and their

Speaker 91 offense stalled in the red zone.

Speaker 75 Yeah, he did play bad. I'll agree with you, but there was one interception that he had that was like, that's what we were waiting for, that press guide interception.

Speaker 127 And their offense stalled in the red zone, which is exactly what happened last year.

Speaker 115 And then their defense, which was good last year, got bullied against the Packers.

Speaker 104 And so maybe now you just have this conversation right now about Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 70 But I guess Jerry Jones already settled this by just turning up the heat.

Speaker 75 Yeah, he's like, he's all in. Jerry Jones is all in right now.
He's not going to get rid of Mike McCarthy. He's settled in with Dak.
He's settled in with CD.

Speaker 75 I feel like this is Jerry Jones just nesting. It's nesting for his imminent demise.
Yeah. So he's just like, I want to keep the guys around me that I'm going to have for the rest of my life.

Speaker 75 We're going to get to know each other. We're going to be a family.
So I, yeah, I don't know if Mike McCarthy is going to go anywhere unless they do something crazy this year.

Speaker 75 I've been thinking that he would for the last two seasons, but now I'm falling more into the camp of Jerry Jones. He just wants people that are going to be around him.

Speaker 112 Well, we talked about it in one of our preseason

Speaker 2 interviews with someone.

Speaker 67 Like, Jerry Jones, the

Speaker 67 90s Jerry Jones, we still think that's the guy.

Speaker 70 Jerry Jones is like too loyal to his coaches. He kept Jason Garrett for way too long.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 27 So I think he's going to probably just keep Mike McCarthy for way too long.

Speaker 75 Yeah, he probably, well, some might argue he already has. Yeah, that's true.
I have a fun fact. Did you know that Derek Carr's middle name is literally Dallas?

Speaker 9 Oh, I didn't. Yeah.
That's awesome.

Speaker 75 I guess he grew up, his like parents and grandparents were Cowboys fans. He's DDC?

Speaker 125 He's DDC.

Speaker 75 That's what that is. And he looks cool.
I think Derek Carr got cool this year.

Speaker 115 Yeah, he came on PMT.

Speaker 75 He came on PMT.

Speaker 75 He scored a touchdown, did a Michael Jackson end zone celebration. Yep.
He grabbed his crotch, which I never would have imagined that Derek Carr would do. Yeah, kids are watching at home.

Speaker 75 Kids are watching at home, Derek. I hope you apologize for that.
But yeah, he looks cool. He looks fun to watch.
He's throwing the ball deep.

Speaker 75 I mean, he's taking what the defense gives him, but having Rasheed Shahid out there, when he uncorks one, it looks good. Yeah.
It looks exciting.

Speaker 117 So Rasheed Shahid is top team to or top guys' name to say.

Speaker 75 Great name to say.

Speaker 12 Great name to say.

Speaker 75 Yeah, Big Cat, I have a question for you. Yeah.
Do you think that the Cowboys are frauds?

Speaker 115 No, because they

Speaker 115 have, who'd they play week one?

Speaker 21 Browns?

Speaker 75 They beat the Browns week one.

Speaker 67 No, I don't think they're frauds yet.

Speaker 14 I think they're to be determined because

Speaker 105 you have to have a good record and win games decisively to be certified.

Speaker 83 I don't think you can call anyone a fraud week two.

Speaker 130 I think it needs you need a little bit of a body of work.

Speaker 13 You need a month and a half where it's like, oh, we're four and two, and the four wins were by 20 plus, and the two losses were against good teams.

Speaker 108 Yeah, those are the fraud teams.

Speaker 38 So I don't think they're frauds yet.

Speaker 40 I just think I don't know if they're good.

Speaker 75 I think this loss today might be submitted as evidence down the line for them being frauds. Yeah.

Speaker 75 So I don't think we can call them frauds either, but I do think that this would be a big bulletin point if we reach that point where they're four and two.

Speaker 133 Yeah, I'd agree with that.

Speaker 67 I'm happy for Saints fans because it does feel like they've been, since Drew Brees, kind of just going in circles.

Speaker 77 Every year you hear about them being in Cap Hill.

Speaker 35 They kind of run it back.

Speaker 37 Dennis Allen is the most forgettable coach in the NFL.

Speaker 30 But credit to him, he did hire Clint Kubiak, who's done a really good job through two games.

Speaker 6 But it feels like the Saints are a fun team.

Speaker 105 And

Speaker 94 like I said, their defense is playing nasty, too.

Speaker 112 So it's not just their offense has been lights out.

Speaker 103 They've been both sides of the ball.

Speaker 116 So I'm happy for Saints fans.

Speaker 75 It's cool to have an identity besides we're going to let Taysom Hill run through linebackers' faces. Right.
And so that's a nice piece to have. Right.

Speaker 75 That's a great piece to have, but you don't want that to be your thing as an offense.

Speaker 139 Yeah, your only thing.

Speaker 8 Yeah. And the thing that you have to hope works every single time.

Speaker 107 And then once a year when he gets hurt, you're like, well, this is going to suck.

Speaker 75 Yeah, now what do we do? Yeah.

Speaker 44 So, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 141 good for the Saints.

Speaker 142 Yep.

Speaker 51 Happy for the Saints.

Speaker 83 All right, you want to go to the next game?

Speaker 75 Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 107 Commanders have won.

Speaker 75 Commanders are one and one.

Speaker 104 Commanders 21, Giants 18.

Speaker 25 I told you at the end of the game, it was actually very mean what you you did to the Giants because they had Graham Gnow who got hurt on the opening kickoff.

Speaker 98 So the Giants didn't play with a kicker, which I love games when a kicker's injured because you just don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker 25 And then the commanders basically went out and said, hey, you don't have a kicker.

Speaker 136 We're going to kick seven field goals right in your face.

Speaker 75 Right in your face. We got all the field goals on our side.
Yes. Seven field goals.
Now, I will say, the offense was pretty good today.

Speaker 75 Outside of what we did in the red zone, which was just take penalty after penalty until it backed us up a little bit. Then we couldn't actually score a touchdown.

Speaker 75 I'd like to see touchdowns, but in a weird way, I like winning a game like this because it's been so long since we've had a field goal kicker who's capable of making three field goals in a game, much less four, much less five, six, or seven field goals in a game.

Speaker 75 So having a guy that is that competent is a really good thing for our team. And this is a crazy stat.
This is actually insane. Austin Seaton

Speaker 75 our kicker right now. Okay.
He is our fifth kicker in the year 2024.

Speaker 59 Your fifth kicker? It's week two.

Speaker 130 Oh, yeah, because you got rid of Cade York.

Speaker 75 We got rid of Cade York. And

Speaker 75 I count that as a front office win for us. Yes.
It's a front office win because we cut Cade York after one game, which we would never do in the past. Right.

Speaker 75 And we got a guy that can make seven of seven. And I think we also saved on whatever compensation we owed the Browns for making that trade because we cut them after one game as opposed to two games.

Speaker 75 Right. So the fact that we were competent enough to address a problem and then bring it

Speaker 75 and then bring in a solution to that problem, that's what you want to see out of your front office. Yeah.
So I have no problem with how the offense looked today. I thought we played pretty well.

Speaker 75 Brian Robinson, he's our first,

Speaker 75 I think he's our first 100-yard running back in like a season and a half, which is also surprising to say.

Speaker 75 But he looked good today. He looked really good.

Speaker 60 Jay Daniels looked like he was...

Speaker 107 Because Dan Quinn said it in the middle of the week that they were going to try not to run him as much.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 25 And it looked like he was doing a better job of like, hey, I'm not going to just run right away.

Speaker 75 Yeah, and he got the ball downfield better than he did in week one. Yeah.
He looked good as a quarterback.

Speaker 75 I was very encouraged with how the offense moved the ball for the most part. Our defense still stinks, but that's fine.
Our defense is probably going to stink. Yeah.
And that's okay.

Speaker 75 We benefited very much from the Giants having to run fourth down plays whenever they cross midfield.

Speaker 25 Well, it's funny you say it that way because they didn't have to do that.

Speaker 50 So Brian Dable's going to be under a lot of fire in New York this week because Graham Gnow hurt his hamstring on the opening kickoff.

Speaker 67 He had a groin injury on Saturday.

Speaker 6 So he was already like, hey, something's a little off.

Speaker 34 The Giants went into this game with 52 guys on the roster.

Speaker 115 Could have got a kicker. Could have gotten a kicker.
They have a backup kicker

Speaker 110 they could have had, and they didn't, knowing that Graham Gnow had a groin injury, and they went into this game being like, he'll be fine. Got hurt on the opening kickoff.

Speaker 21 Brian Dable, what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 75 That's not great.

Speaker 81 It's not great at all. I would also.

Speaker 101 Torio, by the way, was the one who was on this, obviously.

Speaker 75 Oh.

Speaker 10 He was all over.

Speaker 21 He's like, I guess they put Gunnar Olchevsky on IR on Thursday, which made it go from 53 to 52.

Speaker 75 So they could have brought up a kicker.

Speaker 77 Could have brought up a kicker.

Speaker 75 Now, this is crazy, but you know, there's another Michael Florio that covers the NFL. Stolen Valor.
His name is Michael B. Florio.
Oh, like Michael B. Jordan? I think so.

Speaker 142 That's kind of cool.

Speaker 75 And memes, how has this guy not made your top Florio's list? His name is literally Florio.

Speaker 144 I think it's Michael F. Florio.

Speaker 10 Michael F. Florio.

Speaker 75 Okay, so yeah, it is. It's like that version of the the Michael B.
Jordan. But yeah, memes, how come this guy hasn't even crossed your radar?

Speaker 144 I've seen him on Twitter one time, and then I saw that same clip from Dan Patrick this weekend.

Speaker 81 That guy's very mad that Michael Florio is also named Michael Florio.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 145 Wait, Michael F.

Speaker 81 Florio is mad that our Mike Florio is named Mike Florio? Our Mike Florio is that.

Speaker 106 No, no, no. Big Cat's right.
Oh.

Speaker 144 That other guy is also mad that Michael Florio is Michael Florio.

Speaker 85 Well, fuck the fake Michael Florio.

Speaker 131 What gives you the right, dude?

Speaker 101 I would understand if our Mike Florio was mad about the other Mike Florio.

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 9 But the other Mike Florio being like, that's my name?

Speaker 83 No, no, no.

Speaker 60 That's not your name.

Speaker 16 Change your name, dude.

Speaker 75 No, it does piss me off. I kind of agree with him.
Like, Mike walks around calling himself PFT all the time.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 146 We got to stand up for our guy.

Speaker 75 Yeah, no, I stand with Mike Florio.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 75 Not F. In the Mike Florio versus Mike Florio debate.

Speaker 101 Yeah, we do not stand with Mike F. Florio.

Speaker 75 They should do a radio show together and call it Mike and Mike.

Speaker 106 That would be fun. Yeah, it'd be very fun.

Speaker 85 Florio on Florio.

Speaker 9 Florio on memes.

Speaker 30 That's literally memes hell. Yeah.

Speaker 112 His constant interviews.

Speaker 75 He's just dropping out of the woodwork.

Speaker 105 Florio interviewing Florio.

Speaker 75 So Brian Dable, yeah, he deserves a lot of blame for that. He also deserves a lot of blame.
He might be the worst challenger coach. Yeah.
He's a very bad challenger.

Speaker 77 He does what Belichick did a lot in his later days, the frustration challenge, where you're not really challenging anything other than you're upset with how the game's going.

Speaker 75 You're challenging reality.

Speaker 44 Yeah, you're challenging that you basically are a like seven-year-old turning off the console.

Speaker 81 You're throwing a flag.

Speaker 104 We're not playing this game anymore.

Speaker 75 You're throwing a flag and you're saying, nuh-uh.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 75 And it's yes-huh.

Speaker 4 Restart.

Speaker 75 No, it happened.

Speaker 115 You're like, hey, let's restart. Ball up top.
Restart. Zero-zero.

Speaker 75 Two bad challenges by Dable today. And Danny Jones didn't play terrible.
He didn't play terrible. No, he didn't.

Speaker 75 I think we told you that on Friday, which is Daniel Jones typically plays better against the commanders. And Malik Neighbors is good.
Really good. Yes.

Speaker 75 So he did have that one drop at at the end of the game that kind of costs you but he's not the reason why he lost no malik neighbors is good and i mean if they had a kicker they probably would have won this game maybe i mean they they had they had to go for it on fourth down they missed an extra point like they and they didn't get the two-point conversions so it felt like brian dable cost his team the game here by not having a kicker he might have yeah did you see jaden daniels handoff today though yeah it was pretty sick he had the best handoff of the week it was pretty sick it was sick he just he stopped froze turned around looked like a dance move That's awesome.

Speaker 75 He's so good at handing the ball off.

Speaker 100 He is good at handing the ball off.

Speaker 75 He's very good at playing quarterback, too. Yeah.

Speaker 54 Max, you got anything to say? Did you watch the game?

Speaker 47 No, I was flying back.

Speaker 9 Oh.

Speaker 10 Wedding, Max. But

Speaker 9 Blaine Daniels.

Speaker 47 That's a win.

Speaker 135 That's a win. That's a win.

Speaker 148 One and one.

Speaker 47 I love bragging about how good my quarterback is at handing the ball off.

Speaker 75 It was a great handoff. So you just told her yourself because you said you didn't watch the game, so you didn't see the handoff.
You have no idea. It was the handoff.

Speaker 9 I am i'm so happy for you to point it you didn't have to see it no it was so sick though yeah

Speaker 75 pull it up watch the clip best handoff i've ever seen

Speaker 3 it's so smooth i'm so happy for you to have a quarterback that's good at handing it off yeah so am i no the best handoff ever was the one i'll give you second best handoff the best handoff ever was when uh

Speaker 94 oh i guess it wasn't a handoff because when when jared goff did the uh fake handoff yeah and got sacked or no no sorry he handed the ball off, and he did it so well that the defensive end sacked him, and they're like, that's roughing.

Speaker 95 He doesn't have the ball right now.

Speaker 75 I think it's hard to compare those two handoffs because one was he did such a great job of the play action, and this was just so cool.

Speaker 61 No, but it wasn't play action.

Speaker 56 I was wrong.

Speaker 115 He did hand it off, and he didn't have the ball, and he did such a good job of pretending he had the ball that they sacked him and then called a roughing the pass.

Speaker 88 Got it.

Speaker 31 Yeah, that was one of the coolest handoffs ever.

Speaker 47 Nobody's talking about this handoff.

Speaker 15 It was so good.

Speaker 47 If it's this sick of a handoff, it shouldn't be this hard to find.

Speaker 9 The all-22.

Speaker 10 The gambling game was talking about it.

Speaker 9 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 12 The all-20 mountain in the game.

Speaker 71 It's going to come out, and you're going to be like, God damn, I wasn't.

Speaker 47 Who's the one who brought it up in the gambling?

Speaker 9 BFT shot. Oh, okay.

Speaker 75 That's true. It was a great handoff.

Speaker 67 I think how it went down is he shouted it, and then no one responded, then he shouted it again.

Speaker 47 And then everyone's like, although, yeah, I guarantee out of all of the games in the one o'clock slate, everyone was watching Giants Commanders.

Speaker 71 Oh, that's good eyes on it.

Speaker 75 Great sarcasm there, Max.

Speaker 81 Great new eyes on it.

Speaker 135 That game must have been a good one.

Speaker 75 Go get on another plane, Max. Yeah, have another wedding.

Speaker 77 Mr. Popper.

Speaker 47 I got one more. One more.

Speaker 75 Go to the 737, Max.

Speaker 47 I got a bye week this week, and then I have the finale.

Speaker 21 Finish strong. Rest up.
Yep.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 75 And watch the game.

Speaker 134 Yeah, you won a game, PFT.

Speaker 75 Won a game. It feels good to be one and one.

Speaker 104 Who do you have next week?

Speaker 75 That's actually a great question that I should know the answer.

Speaker 107 I know the answer.

Speaker 99 It's 0-2 Bengals.

Speaker 10 Oh, of course.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I'm going to that game.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 81 I was so laser focused on this. The Bengals are going to be angry.

Speaker 75 I was laser focused on this game. I wasn't looking ahead at all.
The Bengals are going to be angry.

Speaker 82 Is that Monday night?

Speaker 75 It's a Monday night game. I'm going to be in Cincinnati.
Yeah. Get some chili.

Speaker 111 Hank, you want to talk about your game?

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 67 Seahawks 23, Patriots 20.

Speaker 95 We almost had Hank almost all in.

Speaker 107 We were an overtime away from having Hank almost all in.

Speaker 117 That's how close we were.

Speaker 107 You wouldn't have been all in, but you would have been almost all in.

Speaker 85 And we were almost there.

Speaker 82 If the Patriots had won the Jets have lost, I would have been all the way all in.

Speaker 138 All the way all in.

Speaker 59 So you were.

Speaker 38 But that didn't happen.

Speaker 99 So now where do we stand?

Speaker 82 Kind of the same as last week.

Speaker 75 Almost, you're still almost all in.

Speaker 82 I want to beat the Jets. We talked about it.
If you beat the Jets,

Speaker 92 will you be

Speaker 82 back to almost all in?

Speaker 14 Back to almost all in.

Speaker 67 So you can't get all in by just beating the Jets. No.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 141 Got it.

Speaker 75 You're almost, almost all in.

Speaker 82 It's an exciting team to watch. It's way more exciting than I was expecting.
Is it?

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 60 I think you should start Drake May.

Speaker 104 Why?

Speaker 113 Maybe not this week on a Thursday.

Speaker 82 I thought Jacoby played really well.

Speaker 10 Did he? Yeah.

Speaker 53 He did okay. He was elusive.

Speaker 5 He was quick on his feet. I have a stat for you.

Speaker 65 Made some plays. I have a stat for you.

Speaker 75 Listen. You always have a stat.
I have a stat for you.

Speaker 61 Jacoby Brissette.

Speaker 67 Let me get his final stat line.

Speaker 82 He was getting the offensive line was the problem.

Speaker 10 Yeah, no, your offensive line is not good.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 82 why would you start a rookie QB with a bad offensive line?

Speaker 33 So here's the thing with Jacoby Brissett.

Speaker 130 He's a good backup quarterback.

Speaker 31 I don't know if he's a starter.

Speaker 101 He doesn't really push the ball downfield, so to speak.

Speaker 99 Jacoby Broussett was 15 for 27, 149 yards, and a touchdown, no interception. He doesn't make mistakes.

Speaker 19 How many completions and for how many yards did he have to wide receivers, which are usually the guys quarterbacks throw it to?

Speaker 82 Well, I know how many yards Hunter Henry had.

Speaker 135 He had a lot.

Speaker 82 So I'm going to go with

Speaker 82 seven for 40.

Speaker 94 Jacoby Broussett had three completions for 19 yards to wide receivers today.

Speaker 115 That's why I was saying start trade.

Speaker 104 Again, not this week, but Jacoby Roussett is a really good backup.

Speaker 111 If you want, and your wide receivers aren't like out of this world good, but if you want to push the ball downfield and give your team chances like that, you also need time in the pocket.

Speaker 111 True, true, good point.

Speaker 55 Good counterpoint.

Speaker 44 But three for

Speaker 60 19 yards is tough.

Speaker 75 So some quarterbacks are just, they're meant to be backup quarterbacks, and that's Jacoby Brissette.

Speaker 75 He has a hard time flipping the switch over into starter mode because he's still playing like the way that he played today would be a perfect backup quarterback spot start game.

Speaker 92 Yeah, like don't lose us the game. Yeah.

Speaker 133 He's a big don't lose us the game guy.

Speaker 112 Yeah.

Speaker 66 Which I guess if that's,

Speaker 99 I guess it's a question of whether you go all in or not.

Speaker 85 If you go all in, it should be Drake May.

Speaker 115 That's my point.

Speaker 54 If it's Tank, then Jacoby Brissette's perfect.

Speaker 104 That makes sense?

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 111 I think that's fair.

Speaker 75 Hank, let me ask you this.

Speaker 82 And I think it's still up in the air.

Speaker 75 If at the start of the year, you had been told you're going to to be 1-1 through two games, would you take it?

Speaker 9 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 22 Would you have rathered 0-2?

Speaker 10 No.

Speaker 135 Okay.

Speaker 82 I would have rathered 2-0.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 108 Because you won the first one.

Speaker 82 Because we won the first one. They went for it on fourth and

Speaker 82 they punted on fourth and one. They were on their own 40, 45 area in overtime.
I feel like they should have just went for it and tried to win the game.

Speaker 82 That was stupid because then it's just all the other team has to do is kick a field goal. That would be my only note

Speaker 148 from the game.

Speaker 82 If you're going to be in overtime, just go for the win. Yeah.

Speaker 75 How do you feel about Malcolm Butler being the next man to touch the bell after you?

Speaker 82 I thought he did a great job. It's crazy.
It's been 10 years.

Speaker 75 Yeah. Led the team onto the field.
Picked a good game to do it, too. Yeah.

Speaker 115 Hank, I actually want to give you credit.

Speaker 120 I think you're dealing with this Patriots season the correct way because you've never really been in this spot where it is a hard dance to do where

Speaker 10 you

Speaker 30 don't want to tank right away because then it's like, fuck, this sucks.

Speaker 98 We're tanking from game one.

Speaker 67 That's stupid.

Speaker 75 You want to have something to blame.

Speaker 105 But you also don't want to go all in

Speaker 122 and then end up with five or six wins and not a good draft pick.

Speaker 43 So you're in that middle ground right now where you've got to feel it out and figure out which way you want to go.

Speaker 82 And I was expecting us to look like the Broncos or the Steelers where it's just ugly games, not a lot of points.

Speaker 10 The Steelers are 2-0.

Speaker 82 But they're just ugly games. But they're 2-0.
They're 2-0. All right.
Broncos, maybe. Commanders, maybe.

Speaker 75 We're 1-1.

Speaker 82 I know, but I'm just saying the games are not fun to watch.

Speaker 75 Commanders' offense was good today.

Speaker 82 He just didn't score a touchdown. You kicked a thousand field games.

Speaker 47 I'm trying so hard to find this handoff.

Speaker 9 It's literally.

Speaker 97 There's nowhere around it.

Speaker 75 I guarantee you I am the only person online that cares about this handoff. Hey, honestly,

Speaker 75 I'm going to get it for you on the ultimate two and watch it.

Speaker 83 Hey, can I tell you something that would maybe be fun?

Speaker 107 Your number three overall pick, Drake May.

Speaker 77 That would be fun.

Speaker 53 No, I'm saying we've been having fun. I've been having fun.

Speaker 82 I was expecting not fun. Oh, I've been entertained and had fun in both games.
Got it.

Speaker 113 Oh, that's good. Then that's all matters.

Speaker 66 That's having fun. That's really what you want.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 104 I mean, you almost won that game. Yeah.

Speaker 21 You should have won that game.

Speaker 106 There was a bad defensive pass interference call that I think Tyler Lockett even told whoever your defensive back is, like, that actually was not a penalty.

Speaker 85 Like, on the field, he said it to him.

Speaker 82 So you can just say the refs. And they just had that one, you know.
brain fart on the DK Metcalf touchdown.

Speaker 75 Yeah, he was wide open. And credit to, that's not Pat the Patriot.
It's one of the live-action Patriots that stand in the end zone and shoot a gun when you score a touchdown.

Speaker 75 Are they the Minutemen? I think so.

Speaker 75 Okay, so one of the Minutemen, when DK scored his touchdown, DK almost ran up to him like he was going to use him for a prop, and the guy just turned around and was like, I'm not even going to look at you.

Speaker 9 Wait,

Speaker 85 you know,

Speaker 10 front line? Yeah.

Speaker 10 Defend the wall.

Speaker 85 Very discipline. Defend the wall.

Speaker 115 Yeah, your defense is good.

Speaker 121 I mean, Christian Gonzalez is incredible.

Speaker 46 He did a very good job against DK Metcalf.

Speaker 64 I know DK had a big day, but a lot of it was not

Speaker 82 just a one-player.

Speaker 108 And it wasn't against Christian Gonzalez.

Speaker 99 Right.

Speaker 34 I don't know. I just, for your sake,

Speaker 99 you should start Drake May.

Speaker 46 It's fun when you have a new toy.

Speaker 138 Yeah.

Speaker 99 And Jacoby Roussett, again, very nice guy.

Speaker 83 Like him.

Speaker 21 Want to have him on the show someday.

Speaker 77 He was a good backup quarterback.

Speaker 148 Smoked.

Speaker 82 Our offensive line is so bad. Yeah.

Speaker 82 Like, he had no time. I know the wide receiver thing, but he also had no time to throw.
If you throw in a rookie quarterback, the risk just goes through the roof.

Speaker 75 He did have a really fucked up hand, too. Did you see that?

Speaker 82 Yeah, they showed his arm at the end of the game. He had like, I don't know if it was turf burns.

Speaker 75 Yeah, he looked like a flesh wound. Yeah, it looked like the start of the zombie disease that this is us.
Yeah.

Speaker 37 By the way, we have an update on the handoff.

Speaker 101 Rashad White takes a handoff from Jaden Daniels and gets into the end zone for the nine-yard touchdown, 21-10 ASU with 45 seconds remaining in the third.

Speaker 75 I don't think that's two teams ago. That might not be from this year.

Speaker 47 I mean, I told you I was going deep trying to find this hand though.

Speaker 75 Well, it sounds like that was a great handoff, too. It sounds like there's a lot of tape on there, and scouts are buzzing about how good he is.

Speaker 104 Oh, no. Jaden Daniels' handoff to A.J.

Speaker 122 Carter never seemed to be secured, and it's a lost fumble on ASU's first play at its own 13-yard line.

Speaker 67 So that's a bad start.

Speaker 75 A.J. Carter wasn't ready for it.

Speaker 67 That's from December 31st, 2019.

Speaker 52 A.J.

Speaker 75 Carter has fumblitis.

Speaker 49 Everybody knows that.

Speaker 75 You guys are going to, whatever. Listen, I'm

Speaker 75 going to do it. It was a great handoff.
I'm not going to back down from that tape.

Speaker 146 I said it was a good handoff.

Speaker 75 It looked like he was doing a dance move. It was sick.
I did. So there was a point in the afternoon games where I just asked around the room, what do you guys think about Jaden Daniels?

Speaker 75 Because I feel like he's played well. I just need to have other people say it.
It might be some interesting. I thought he played well.
I thought he played well today. Yeah.

Speaker 75 And his chin strap was buckled.

Speaker 53 I thought he played well.

Speaker 60 By the way, the Seahawks might be good.

Speaker 75 I think they are. I mean, they're 2-0.

Speaker 83 Yeah, they're 2-0.

Speaker 19 I guess the Broncos and Patriots maybe aren't the best tests. They play the Dolphins.

Speaker 82 Broncos almost. I mean, the Patriots almost beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 49 What? Essentially.

Speaker 9 Oh, yes.

Speaker 27 We should have beat the Chiefs. You basically beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 75 Well, the Ravens.

Speaker 67 If you played the Chiefs in a seven-game series, that's going seven.

Speaker 82 Maybe not. It might be a 4-0 sweep.

Speaker 9 Patriots.

Speaker 75 The Ravens almost beat the Chiefs, but then the Ravens lost to the Raiders. So did the Raiders almost beat the Chiefs?

Speaker 123 Yeah.

Speaker 75 So the Patriots and the Raiders are two of the best teams in the NFL.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 75 Interesting.

Speaker 46 Yeah, I mean, the Patriots beat the Bengals soundly, and the Bengals only lost by one or two to the Chiefs.

Speaker 135 That's huge.

Speaker 10 I know. That's huge.

Speaker 75 So you're not thinking the offs yet?

Speaker 10 No. Okay.

Speaker 64 Smart.

Speaker 32 What did you think about Jerry O'Connell's video?

Speaker 41 I love that he's back in his bing-bong voice.

Speaker 70 Did you see the video?

Speaker 49 I did see it.

Speaker 102 Okay, let's play it for the people. I'm going to find it.

Speaker 110 Or you want to pull it up, Max?

Speaker 35 You pull it up.

Speaker 103 What did you think?

Speaker 82 I saw that he did it. I didn't watch it.
Oh, you didn't?

Speaker 81 Why not?

Speaker 67 So to set the scene for anyone who's listening on the podcast, Jerry's out what looks like some kind of

Speaker 69 hike with

Speaker 115 four dogs, four dogs, shirtless, great dogs, and he's got the arm weights on, the two and a half pound arm weights.

Speaker 5 It's going to be something about

Speaker 95 no,

Speaker 9 no, blowing it.

Speaker 53 I don't know what his obsession with me is.

Speaker 15 He likes you.

Speaker 10 Bong, Hanky, look at me.

Speaker 151 I'm outside. I'm doing my exercises.

Speaker 152 I'm I'm not inside of a golf simulator. My beautiful dogs, all of them.

Speaker 151 You got yaffs on the mine. You think your pets are going to beat Seattle today? I don't think so.
I'm taking Seattle plus the under

Speaker 151 because your team can't score. Bing-bong.
Get outside, Anki.

Speaker 145 You blew it.

Speaker 10 And then it cut off.

Speaker 75 I mean, he's just talking shit. Just guys, it's just smack talking.

Speaker 70 But Jerry's actually the most.

Speaker 70 Half of this show is just an obsession with you.

Speaker 104 PFTN, this desk has an obsession with you.

Speaker 82 Yeah, just let me live.

Speaker 104 Yeah, so, I mean, he's just, he's falling in line with the obsession with you.

Speaker 82 Did the under hit? No. No.
No.

Speaker 75 And the Seahawks also didn't cover.

Speaker 67 I think it ended up going to three or it was three a kick, so he pushed.

Speaker 106 So, oh, one and one for Jerry.

Speaker 75 I got him at three and a half. Yeah.

Speaker 67 All right. Well, good job, Hank.

Speaker 9 Thanks.

Speaker 67 Just being.

Speaker 53 Just existing.

Speaker 82 That's my first good job existing. Yeah.

Speaker 15 So thank you.

Speaker 60 Do you want to quickly just talk about the Apple Cup real quick?

Speaker 102 I know we talk college football on Wednesdays.

Speaker 97 Yeah. I mean, that

Speaker 9 was brutal.

Speaker 82 And then I woke up this morning and saw the news that they lost.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 75 Rivalry game. It's always tough.

Speaker 66 When did you find out they lost?

Speaker 82 I saw that they lost last night. I didn't see the play until today.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so we texted you right away. I texted you the minute the play happened.

Speaker 19 I said, sorry, Hank. And PFT was like, he doesn't even know what we're sorry for.

Speaker 27 And he said,

Speaker 9 I can't wait to see Hank's Google text or Google search to figure out why he's upset right now.

Speaker 10 Yeah, why he needs to be upset.

Speaker 75 Like, Hank, when you see that we're sorry for you and you have to find out why, what does that Google search? It will go through your head.

Speaker 82 I honestly didn't even, my phone was dead. And like, by the time I turned it on, I had like those messages got lost in the flood.
Got it. Got it.
So I didn't even see the apologies.

Speaker 105 So you weren't, your phone was dead.

Speaker 83 Were you not?

Speaker 99 Were you watching Kent State, Tennessee?

Speaker 10 Nope. Damn.

Speaker 16 Just living your life. Just live my life.

Speaker 46 And the Apple Cup.

Speaker 10 That's brutal.

Speaker 65 Because that one meant more.

Speaker 82 Yeah, it did. And we were right there at the goal line at the end.

Speaker 110 I know.

Speaker 75 Because you can't chant Mountain West at Wazoo anymore. Yeah.
Can't make fun of them for their non-conference.

Speaker 102 Are you still confident in the coach?

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 120 And his name is what?

Speaker 75 How do you think the quarterback played, Hank?

Speaker 148 I don't know.

Speaker 25 You got the coach's name.

Speaker 10 I don't.

Speaker 12 Jed Hoyer.

Speaker 85 No.

Speaker 67 Jed Fish. Jed Fish.

Speaker 106 Came from Arizona.

Speaker 75 That's an easy one.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 21 You got that now.

Speaker 65 We're going to quiz you next week.

Speaker 9 Okay.

Speaker 66 This is tough.

Speaker 101 I know how much that Apple Cup meant to you.

Speaker 82 I know. Like I said, it was seeing the play.
I couldn't even bring myself to watch the play until today. Yeah.

Speaker 85 And Tyler Van Dyke got hurt.

Speaker 10 Having that. That's brutal.

Speaker 75 Have you watched the play?

Speaker 112 I did. You You saw the play?

Speaker 9 Yeah. What happened on it?

Speaker 82 Oh, they ran to the right and got stuffed.

Speaker 75 Yep.

Speaker 23 He saw it.

Speaker 19 Confirmed he saw it.

Speaker 75 Was there any pitchback or

Speaker 75 what kind of play was it?

Speaker 9 It's a run play.

Speaker 75 I don't think you watched the play.

Speaker 9 You watched the play, right?

Speaker 135 Option play?

Speaker 44 You watched the play.

Speaker 9 Option play. The option play.
Yep.

Speaker 9 That is a run play.

Speaker 82 I understand. An option is a run.

Speaker 111 It was so hard for you to watch it.

Speaker 129 You barely.

Speaker 75 An option is a run. Yeah.
Piquetti probably watched it through his fingers because he was almost like, I can't look. I can't look.
I'm so nervous.

Speaker 10 He was essentially Roman Roy in succession when the rocket blows up and he sees the rocket blow up and he just puts the phone back in his pocket and he just goes on about his day.

Speaker 128 Yeah.

Speaker 81 You saw that and you're just like, I can't deal with this right now.

Speaker 82 Pretty much.

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Speaker 131 Okay,

Speaker 67 more games in the 10 10 game slate.

Speaker 113 Vikings 23, 49, or 17. Sam Darnold.

Speaker 75 Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold's back.

Speaker 80 Sam Darnold's arrived.

Speaker 75 Sam Darnold is our Baker Mayfield of this year.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it took him seven years. Yeah.

Speaker 104 But he has finally arrived in the NFL.

Speaker 50 He's not one of the worst quarterbacks in the world, which he was with the Jets. He is now, dare I say, good? Yeah.

Speaker 104 He had a 97-yard touchdown pass to Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 121 Justin Jefferson did some awesome work with the cutback there.

Speaker 98 QBs to never have a 97-yard or more touchdown pass in the NFL.

Speaker 119 This is from our friend Stadthole, who has a great blog every Monday recapping all the stats.

Speaker 95 Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 6 These are guys who have never had this that Sam Darnold now has.

Speaker 83 Patrick Mahomes, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Dan Marino, John Elway, Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers, Troy Eggman.

Speaker 61 Pretty good group of quarterbacks, and they never did what Sam Darnold did today.

Speaker 75 And it was incredible. It was a great pass.

Speaker 133 It was.

Speaker 75 And you can't help but root for Sam either. Yeah.
I feel like he's one of those guys where through no fault of his own,

Speaker 75 he's been just kind of like run through the dog shit. He was on those hyperdrive jets, right? When they were turning the offense to hyperdrive.

Speaker 6 He was poisoned by Adam Gase.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 75 Yeah. So you have to root for a guy like that to come back.
And yeah, he looked good today against his old team. Yeah.
I was very happy to see it. The 49ers did not look great.

Speaker 75 Fred Warner, by the way, that guy, he is so fun to watch. Yeah.
As fun of a linebacker.

Speaker 77 That's a football player. It's a football player.

Speaker 75 That guy plays football and he does it very well. I wouldn't smash the panic button yet if I was the 49ers.

Speaker 75 But today, I thought about the panic button.

Speaker 113 It's not.

Speaker 107 So Brock Purdy was under fire all day, it felt like.

Speaker 37 Brandon Ayuk has still not got going, which which I guess I understand.

Speaker 105 And Christian McCaffrey is now ⁇ is he on the ingredient ⁇ is he out for four weeks at least?

Speaker 75 He's on the IR.

Speaker 60 So not panic button because I think the 49ers could play bad and still tread water for a month because they have so much talent.

Speaker 116 But if

Speaker 60 you're expecting to go back to the Super Bowl,

Speaker 124 it hasn't been the greatest start with the fact that Christian McCaffrey is out for a while and the Vikings' defense kind of ate you you up a little bit.

Speaker 13 Brian Floors, he's a good defensive coach.

Speaker 94 Not a good head coach, good defensive coach.

Speaker 75 Yeah, they ate you up for sure. Christian McCaffrey being out week one didn't really seem to matter at all.

Speaker 75 But you think about how good the 49ers are and how many options they have, and you're like, oh, that won't be a problem not having Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 75 But then all you're saying is that you're just going back to the pretty good 49ers that you had before Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 75 And then he just makes your offense look entirely different when he's on the field. You can't play defense against the 49ers the same way at all when he's just there.
Right.

Speaker 75 His presence makes makes a huge difference hank what do you think about christian mccaffrey when do you think he's going to come back

Speaker 10 how long do people usually stay on the i are for four weeks is minimum and he just went on this week yeah so probably probably know around week six yeah you think he's he's definitely coming back yeah i don't see why he wouldn't yeah okay you think he loves football not like a barry sanders situation yeah he's a football he's from a football family football guy through and through he is he is a football family yep good point um brian floores not this just popped in in my head.

Speaker 154 I want to see how I can phrase this.

Speaker 101 Do you think there was a part of Brian Flores?

Speaker 115 Well, we know Brian Flores isn't like the nicest guy, right?

Speaker 25 I think that's been established.

Speaker 75 Correct.

Speaker 19 Do you think a part of him was like, man, Tua's concussion means I can't say, see, I told you so with how bad Tua was playing before the concussion?

Speaker 75 Yeah, he probably thought about that. He was definitely rooting against Tua.

Speaker 122 Yeah, he probably was like telling people, see, I told you so, and then had to delete the text message after Tua got the concussion because obviously that was a horrific concussion.

Speaker 75 He was probably upset.

Speaker 10 He was playing horrible before the concussion.

Speaker 112 Right, so Brian Flores was like, damn, now I can't say, hey, hey, I told to his close friends, he probably would say, hey, I told you so.

Speaker 75 He was equally upset with the hit as he was with not being able to take victory laps about Tua. Correct.

Speaker 111 Yeah. Because you know that.

Speaker 75 That's actually what the Vikings have done a very good job. They've just completely sequestered him from Sam Darnold.
Yeah. Brian Flores should not be allowed to even look at Sam Darnold.
Right.

Speaker 24 Because he'll just eat him alive.

Speaker 75 Don't let him speak to a quarterback ever.

Speaker 30 He probably mutters under his breath like Sam Darnold, you're not worth shit, dude.

Speaker 75 But I think that might be a mark of a great defensive coordinator. If you hate quarterbacks that much,

Speaker 75 that you just will do anything to break them down. Yeah.
Yeah, just that's great. Just coach defense.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 This game also could have gone very differently if Jordan Mason hadn't fumbled.

Speaker 111 Was it Jordan Mason who fumbled?

Speaker 75 I think Jordan Mason fumbled.

Speaker 110 He fumbled at the goal line going in. Yeah.

Speaker 74 And that like the 49ers, that's why the panic button would be stupid because you just had some plays not go your way, even though the Vikings deserved this win because their defense was very good.

Speaker 101 But like that fumble took all the momentum out of that game.

Speaker 75 Yeah, how mad do you think fantasy owners are if they drafted Christian McCaffrey first overall? Hank, what do you think? Might be a class action lawsuit. Yeah, very mad.

Speaker 75 But it's not like he's it's not like anything else is going on there, right, Hank?

Speaker 135 I don't think so. Okay.

Speaker 21 Oh, wait, maybe it was Brock Purdy who fumbled.

Speaker 75 Brock Purdy did fumble, and I think Debo might have recovered it.

Speaker 135 Oh, maybe the stat sheet stat sheet saying lost was only one from Brock Purdy, and Jordan Mason had a fumble as well.

Speaker 10 I don't know.

Speaker 111 Either way, they fumbled on the goal line.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Okay.

Speaker 83 Jets 24.

Speaker 94 Titans, 17.

Speaker 139 Memes.

Speaker 81 Congrats, memes.

Speaker 10 Let him know, baby.

Speaker 150 All the apps still on your phone?

Speaker 144 All the apps still on my phone.

Speaker 75 All TVs intact.

Speaker 23 Yes. Let's go, memes.

Speaker 115 So, how are we feeling?

Speaker 77 Currently feeling great.

Speaker 144 Beginning of the game,

Speaker 144 I was in a dark place because it was one of those, time is a flat circle. The Patriots are good and the Jets suck.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 144 Because it looked like the Patriots were going to win.

Speaker 101 Gonna win.

Speaker 144 I mean, it was 7-0. Yeah.

Speaker 75 Now, memes, you're a big TV setup guy, right? Yes. Like at your house.
You've got, it's quite the setup. How many do you have? Four.

Speaker 144 Four in the one room, one in the other.

Speaker 75 So, memes, you're also a big interactions, impressions guy on social media, correct? Correct. Have you thought about if the Jets lose a big game sacrificing one of those TVs just to do numbers?

Speaker 107 To buy another one easily.

Speaker 101 Just smash it.

Speaker 75 To win it many times.

Speaker 144 Well, no, I was going to if the Titans scored a touchdown and got the two-point conversion.

Speaker 145 So they would have gone for two.

Speaker 81 Were you going to film it?

Speaker 144 Probably not. It would have just been a full kick.

Speaker 75 Well, you got to film it. You've got to have like a GoPro going.

Speaker 144 Yeah, I'll set one up on the ceiling so it captures it. I don't think I have time to take the phone out and then.
Right.

Speaker 99 It's just got to be all one motion.

Speaker 75 Yeah. Have you thought about which TV you're going to sacrifice when it does happen?

Speaker 144 The one all the way to the left.

Speaker 10 Okay, okay.

Speaker 149 That's the one.

Speaker 56 That's like the bastard child.

Speaker 85 You don't like that one?

Speaker 115 Memes, how are you feeling about Nathaniel Hackett and Robert Salah?

Speaker 48 First quarter, I wanted every single person fired.

Speaker 128 As the game progressed,

Speaker 51 I'm okay.

Speaker 101 Because there's a chance Robert Salah is just not a good head coach, but he always had the excuse of Zach Wilson as his quarterback.

Speaker 6 Yeah, there's a very good chance.

Speaker 59 Because the Jets were kind of sloppy again.

Speaker 39 A lot of penalties.

Speaker 101 Just like, what was up with, there was multiple times where I feel like Aaron Rodgers, the play clock, they had to call timeouts.

Speaker 144 I believe that was on Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 49 Okay.

Speaker 135 Okay.

Speaker 144 He just forgot.

Speaker 10 He forgot about time.

Speaker 23 Yep. Okay.

Speaker 75 It'll happen when you're in a darkness retreat, yeah.

Speaker 110 What do you think about my guy Braylon Allen?

Speaker 100 Braylon Allen's a stud.

Speaker 144 Having him and Brees Hall in the same backfield is a problem.

Speaker 81 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 6 Do you want the craziest woe stat?

Speaker 64 Yes.

Speaker 19 It was such a woe stat that I actually had to call Jake and tell him the stat because I knew he'd appreciate it.

Speaker 101 I swear to God, I called him like an hour ago.

Speaker 67 Braylon Allen is the youngest player to score a touchdown in the NFL in almost 100 years since 1930.

Speaker 101 1930 was the last time there was someone as young as him.

Speaker 67 Braylon Allen today is 20 years old,

Speaker 94 239 days.

Speaker 113 In 1930, Arnie Herber.

Speaker 6 was 20 years old, 239 days.

Speaker 94 The exact same age.

Speaker 65 They're both from Wisconsin.

Speaker 6 They both are Badgers.

Speaker 75 that was the last time someone as young as him scored a touchdown to the day so they tied yeah or arnie herber was a problem i watched some of his uh he was actually like the first one to pass was he really yeah so was he quarterback or running back he was both okay so kind of like a dual threat guy yeah like a justin fields i like that yeah um yeah memes braylan allen he is very very explosive and this is why this is why running backs should be allowed to enter the draft earlier Because you get guys like that that are ready, and then they get to their second contract by the time they're, what, like 24, 25 years old?

Speaker 75 Yeah, I mean, he's young.

Speaker 70 He's always been young.

Speaker 75 Then you can dip on a second contract. But yeah, he's very fun to watch.

Speaker 25 He was 17.

Speaker 36 Was that a woe for you?

Speaker 81 That was a woe. It's crazy.

Speaker 79 Arnie Herbert. We might need

Speaker 92 his blown.

Speaker 110 We might need you to make an Arnie, like Arnie Herber was a problem.

Speaker 36 Highlight reel.

Speaker 66 What team did he play for?

Speaker 133 He played for the Packers.

Speaker 33 So he had a crazy story. He

Speaker 27 played freshman.

Speaker 91 for Wisconsin,

Speaker 30 then went to Regis College in Denver, and Regis College disbanded their football team.

Speaker 60 And so he moved back. He's from Green Bay.

Speaker 107 He moved back to Green Bay and was working as like a janitor.

Speaker 19 And then they were just like, he's like, can I try out for the team?

Speaker 101 And then he was a problem.

Speaker 75 And then he was a phenomen.

Speaker 48 And then he scored. He's still right there.
Yeah.

Speaker 101 He's running the ball.

Speaker 56 He's passing the ball.

Speaker 13 I saw one where he threw one of the worst passes ever, but it worked.

Speaker 9 Look at that.

Speaker 10 Back foot.

Speaker 6 He's actually known as like the predecessor to like the Sammy Baugh, like the guys who started really throwing the ball.

Speaker 81 This is sick. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Arnie Herber.

Speaker 95 problem.

Speaker 10 Look at him.

Speaker 80 Look at that field.

Speaker 49 That's trash. Bang.

Speaker 118 Dime.

Speaker 10 Oh, I love the reference. That's a milkman? Yeah.

Speaker 9 He looked like a milkman.

Speaker 75 Uniforms used to be newsboy caps and then pajamas.

Speaker 10 That guy rules.

Speaker 13 And there's all, yeah, look at that.

Speaker 80 That was a tight spiral.

Speaker 75 Yeah, they were probably saying that's witchcraft. You can't pass the ball.

Speaker 10 Arnie Herber, problem.

Speaker 2 So yeah, that 20 years old, 239 days.

Speaker 98 That's Raylan Allen did the exact same thing today.

Speaker 144 Yeah, I do like how Nathaniel Hackett is kind of figuring out all these guys that they actually do have in their offense. Braylon Allen was this week.
Next week, they'll figure out Mike Williams.

Speaker 53 Yeah, I think

Speaker 75 one week they'll figure out every single person they have on the team. When is Garrett Wilson going to be figured out?

Speaker 75 Thursday night.

Speaker 135 Okay.

Speaker 107 So Nathaniel Hackett is essentially renting an Airbnb, and like you get there, you check in at night, and then the next day you're like, oh, there's this room?

Speaker 70 Yes. Oh, shit.

Speaker 97 They got a back patio.

Speaker 76 Oh, cool.

Speaker 113 We can just unlock everything here. Yeah,

Speaker 144 one week at a time, though.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 75 You can't put too much on his plate. No.

Speaker 82 GTL for Thursday?

Speaker 82 That's that line?

Speaker 10 Oh. Oh.

Speaker 99 Where's the game being played?

Speaker 10 New York.

Speaker 75 I'm going to say it's New York.

Speaker 9 New Jersey.

Speaker 75 In New Jersey, I'm going to say the New Jersey Jets

Speaker 75 minus

Speaker 75 three and a half.

Speaker 112 I was going to say four.

Speaker 50 What is it?

Speaker 82 I'm going to guess four and a half.

Speaker 83 We've covered it all.

Speaker 60 Max, you want to go five and a half or or you want to go two and a half?

Speaker 47 I'll go two and a half.

Speaker 131 Oh, wow. Okay, we've got it all.

Speaker 14 I guess we didn't have three. All right, do we have a line? Is anyone looking at it?

Speaker 59 Hank, when you say, should we do GTL,

Speaker 70 you should look up GTL.

Speaker 146 So then you can tell us the GTL.

Speaker 156 My phone's dead.

Speaker 9 Oh, again?

Speaker 3 Whoa, Jets minus seven.

Speaker 49 Seven.

Speaker 119 Our advanced stats say you got to hammer the Patriots.

Speaker 75 Yeah, I'm going to hammer the Patriots.

Speaker 49 Damn.

Speaker 10 Wow. Damn.
Wow.

Speaker 34 That must have.

Speaker 110 Braylon Allen.

Speaker 106 He's only 20 years old, 239 days.

Speaker 75 Maybe, do they know Drake May's starting?

Speaker 10 Oh.

Speaker 75 Does Vegas know something?

Speaker 49 Push the ball downfield.

Speaker 138 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Will Levis, we like.

Speaker 75 Yep.

Speaker 64 Will Levis

Speaker 119 needs to maybe go to a Mike Pence conversion therapy where they're like sacks are okay.

Speaker 75 Well, that'd be the opposite. That'd be the opposite.
Yeah, that'd be the opposite.

Speaker 75 No sacks.

Speaker 3 Taking a sack is okay.

Speaker 75 No, still not Mike Pence.

Speaker 3 He did the same thing, different because it wasn't a pick six, but it was a fumble

Speaker 121 where he was getting sacked and he just threw the ball backwards when they were going in on the six-yard line.

Speaker 67 Yeah.

Speaker 150 It's okay to take a sack. Will Levis played better today, but it's okay to take a sack and not do.

Speaker 115 It's actually, Briscoe said he's kind of like Josh Allen, early Josh Allen, and there is a similarity in that just mash all the buttons and hope the play works.

Speaker 75 That play was, it was full Josh Allen. It was bad, Josh Allen.
I think Josh Allen did that exact same play when he was in the playoffs. Was it against the Texans? I believe it was.

Speaker 75 It was the same game where he threw the bomb downfield to the fullback.

Speaker 75 Yeah, it was the exact same type of play where he was upside down and then threw the ball underhand to some guy that wasn't standing there. Yes.
And one of the worst fumbles that you'll ever see.

Speaker 75 He is a little bit crazy. Crazy.
I think you're going to get a lot of, he's crazy.

Speaker 75 When he throws the ball downfield, sometimes it looks really good coming out of his hands. He's got a strong arm.

Speaker 75 He can look good. He can run.
But he needs to be just like 20% less crazy. Yeah.
Maybe even 40% less crazy.

Speaker 125 Because the Titans' defense is good.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 10 They are.

Speaker 30 That's a good defense.

Speaker 99 And like that.

Speaker 93 He's got some weapons, too.

Speaker 43 Yeah, they could have won.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 30 Like, the Titans are the Titans are the number one 0-2 team that could easily be 2-0.

Speaker 75 Yeah. LeGerry Sneed, pretty good at defense.
Yeah.

Speaker 139 Calvin Ridley. Great catch.
Unbelievable catch.

Speaker 75 Just dial back the crazy.

Speaker 31 Just turn it down a little bit.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 67 And just remind yourself that, hey, getting sacked is not the worst thing.

Speaker 75 Was his offensive coordinator or his head coach that was like, hey, Will, what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 75 I think it was Brian Callahan. Was that Brian Callahan? Yeah.

Speaker 141 Who we like as well. You like him too, yeah.

Speaker 157 Titans are going to be,

Speaker 43 they're not going to make the playoffs, but I think they will be one of those spoiler teams, tough out teams.

Speaker 67 You've seen it through two weeks,

Speaker 115 but just turn down the crazy a little.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 75 Also, that's the complete correct reaction. from your coach when you do something like that.

Speaker 82 Oh, 100%.

Speaker 75 You don't want to nurture that. You don't want to be like, that's okay.
It'll be better next. No, you want to correct that problem immediately.

Speaker 85 Yeah, you want to, yeah.

Speaker 18 You want to basically,

Speaker 44 they should do the,

Speaker 67 I know it's, it's kind of like a trope. It doesn't actually, I hope it doesn't still happen, but like you catch your kid smoking a cigarette, you make him smoke an entire pack of cigarettes.

Speaker 71 Yeah.

Speaker 19 They should just have him just keep getting sacked and throwing it backwards and being like, another fumble.

Speaker 43 Fuck you. What are you doing?

Speaker 75 I was going to say, actually, the next time they catch him doing that, he should make him smoke a whole pack of cigarettes.

Speaker 9 That too.

Speaker 75 I think that would fix the problem. That's actually the best way to correct any behavior.

Speaker 9 If he was just sitting on the sideline smoking like what happened will why are you smoking this pack of cigarettes did another crazy i turned the ball over crazy play where i could have easily just taken a sack i actually think that would work yeah yeah he should do that yeah just make or ban mayo from him yeah if you take away the mayo maybe he'll stop doing it that's cruel you just give it as a treat yeah you're just like hey you can't have mayo this week

Speaker 122 unless you

Speaker 75 turn down the crazy instead of those uh the things that go around your neck the collars that prevent concussions he should just wear an actual actual shot color. Yeah.

Speaker 75 And so during the game, just buzz him.

Speaker 67 Yeah, you buzz him when you need him to just go down for a sack. Yeah, that is Mike Pence.

Speaker 77 Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 59 We found it.

Speaker 57 Okay, next game.

Speaker 104 Packers 16, Colts 10.

Speaker 133 Malik Willis did it.

Speaker 75 There should be a giant blinking sign that appears on this podcast that whenever I say this is my favorite game to bet of all time, that you should take the opposite of what I say.

Speaker 75 And we call it it in real time, too.

Speaker 44 Yeah, I mean, I like to pack.

Speaker 139 They were my mortal.

Speaker 5 I am a big advisor.

Speaker 75 I'm a giant square. I have four equal distant sides.
I have

Speaker 75 six lines of symmetry. However many a square has, that's me.
I'm a square.

Speaker 75 When I told you I was going to bet this game heavier than any other game, that was the most obvious sign of all time that when it's reached me, when that level of confidence has reached me, you should do the exact opposite of what I say.

Speaker 32 Here's the thing. You can't.

Speaker 24 You weren't wrong in the fact that betting against Malik Willis is probably a good idea.

Speaker 40 It just overshadowed that, and I know that I'm in for a war.

Speaker 48 We're going to get to the Bears game.

Speaker 31 I'm in for a war next week with the Colts fans because the Bears play the Colts, but Anthony Richardson is just not that good at quarterbacking right now.

Speaker 40 Right now, he could get better.

Speaker 103 I know that there were also some drop passes, so I'll say that right up front.

Speaker 40 Like, there were definitely drop passes for Anthony Richardson, but he had two very, very bad interceptions and missing guys.

Speaker 40 And the Packers, like I said on Friday, I thought they were going to just run the ball.

Speaker 30 They ran the ball 53 times.

Speaker 38 They basically were like, Malik, here's the game plan.

Speaker 83 We're going to have you throw it.

Speaker 139 I think he threw it 14 times.

Speaker 30 He's 12 for 14.

Speaker 32 We're going to play defense.

Speaker 25 We're going to let Anthony Richardson make the mistakes, not you make the mistakes.

Speaker 44 And it was, we give Matt LaFleur a lot of shit.

Speaker 40 I think he's a phenomenal coach.

Speaker 123 And that.

Speaker 37 This game showed it.

Speaker 18 Like, this was a coaching game where Matt LaFleur was like, I know that I got my hand behind my back with Malik Willis, but I have a path, and this is the path.

Speaker 61 And the Packers ran it to perfection.

Speaker 75 Yeah, it was ugly for the Indianapolis defense, and their run defense stinks.

Speaker 60 This is two games.

Speaker 77 That was part of why, yeah, because I was like, Joshua.

Speaker 81 They were absolutely gashed.

Speaker 75 And it was ugly. And Josh Adams.
They could not stop anything. They did fumble.

Speaker 75 They got a break on that one.

Speaker 75 So, yeah, it was mostly about the Packers just owning the clock and then letting Anthony Richardson make the mistakes.

Speaker 75 He did not play well. Malik Willis played better than I thought that he would, too.
I was surprised.

Speaker 75 So he obviously didn't win the game for the Packers, but he had over 100 yards passing for the first time in his career. So that's pretty impressive.
He ran the ball.

Speaker 114 The Packers

Speaker 126 had the ball for 40 minutes.

Speaker 75 And the Packers have now won 12 straight home openers. That's the longest streak in the NFL.

Speaker 75 And the next longest going into this weekend, I'm not sure what it is now, but the next longest was three going into this weekend.

Speaker 75 So now I guess that would be 13 straight home openers that the Packers have won. Yeah.
So a tough place to play no matter what time of year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and and they looked, I mean,

Speaker 37 normally I'd be mad that the Packers won a game like this, but because I prepared myself and I was like, I think they're going to win this game because I think Matt LaFleur is going to do a really good job getting them ready.

Speaker 18 I was ready for it.

Speaker 139 And again,

Speaker 4 Anthony Richardson, I just don't, I don't see it, what other people see.

Speaker 32 Maybe, Hank, you're an Anthony Richardson guy.

Speaker 74 What do you see?

Speaker 46 And I know everyone's going to come after me and be like, Cale Williams has not looked good through two games.

Speaker 156 I agree.

Speaker 159 We're going to get to that.

Speaker 40 The only difference is Cale Williams was really good in college.

Speaker 20 Anthony Richardson wasn't.

Speaker 35 So that's where I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 18 I don't know where it came from.

Speaker 38 He's got a great PR team, Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 82 The college game that I saw, Minnie, was the greatest player I've ever seen play in person. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I know this is coming up for Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 82 That's what I've seen.

Speaker 88 To ball out against the game.

Speaker 75 Well, Anthony Richardson also had some cool games last year before he got injured.

Speaker 70 He's got, obviously, that arm doesn't grow on trees. So again,

Speaker 45 I feel like I'm repeating myself.

Speaker 101 I apologize if I am.

Speaker 40 I understand drafting him as a project is just not there yet where he should be a favorite on the road.

Speaker 75 I would say that Anthony Richardson's highlights are up there with almost any other quarterback's highlights. Yeah.
If you just watch his good plays. And the low lights are tough.

Speaker 75 Low lights are very, very bad.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah. No.

Speaker 18 Do you still believe in him?

Speaker 138 No.

Speaker 37 Okay, we had a quick technical issue.

Speaker 24 Hank just teleported over the couch.

Speaker 160 We also forgot where we were in our conversation.

Speaker 82 Quick in the pocket.

Speaker 9 Took a minute.

Speaker 69 Oh, Andy Richardson.

Speaker 126 Quick in the pocket.

Speaker 82 No accuracy, though.

Speaker 93 Yeah, I think I said, I think I was explaining it to someone.

Speaker 103 His deep ball, if he could throw his medium deep ball and his short ball like his sometime deep ball,

Speaker 74 it would be sick.

Speaker 75 If he could throw his short ball like his deep ball, yeah. Yeah, I agree, because his deep ball is awesome.
Yeah. Except when he throws picks on it.
Yeah.

Speaker 75 Yeah, he's, look, I think he's exciting to watch when he plays well, but right now he's got a lot of work to do.

Speaker 157 Yeah, young quarterbacks shouldn't be judged by

Speaker 60 a few games. He's what, on his fifth game?

Speaker 59 I'm just saying I don't see it right now.

Speaker 75 Maybe it could be the offensive line's fault. Could be.
Could be the defense's fault.

Speaker 10 Could be.

Speaker 75 Could be. The rushing defense.
Indianapolis needs to figure out the run defense.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 37 I mean, again, I just walked away from this game being like, this is what I've known it forever.

Speaker 143 The Packers run a model organization.

Speaker 37 That's what they fucking do.

Speaker 160 They're annoying that way.

Speaker 130 They have a guy who, by all

Speaker 40 visuals, can't play quarterback in the NFL, and they bring him out there, and then he wins the game.

Speaker 115 That's what they do.

Speaker 55 That's what the Packers fucking do.

Speaker 75 I think Hank give him a he gave him a nickname prematurely. What do you say? Tony Rich.
Tony Rich. Tony Rich, a little too soon for that.
Tony Rich. Today was not Tony Rich.

Speaker 56 Also, shout out Josh Myers for puking on the ball and then still snapping it.

Speaker 75 Yeah, that was a great part of the game. Wouldn't Malik say, like, I didn't throw the ball because it had a puke on it? Yeah.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 53 And not a gamer.

Speaker 18 And the ref, I guess, went up to Matt LaFleur after the game was like,

Speaker 37 or maybe after the play and said, hey, if that happens again, do you want us to stop the play?

Speaker 43 He's like, yeah, I'd appreciate that.

Speaker 75 That'd be fun. Now, is it a flag if your center pukes on a defensive lineman?

Speaker 100 I don't think so.

Speaker 75 Stink used to piss on people. Yeah, I would train my offensive line to do that.

Speaker 64 Yeah,

Speaker 64 that was quite a visual, though.

Speaker 62 Just puking directly on the ball and then snapping it.

Speaker 143 Yeah, then Malik Willis didn't throw the ball because he had puke on it.

Speaker 75 Now, next week, we have a Malik Willis revenge game. He's playing the Titans? He's playing the Titans.
So how do we handicap that?

Speaker 75 Because I feel like we got a good Malik game today.

Speaker 75 Are we going to bet on it tap in two games? I might just keep betting against Malik until I win.

Speaker 75 Just double my bet every time.

Speaker 8 I think he might be 3-1 against the spread.

Speaker 162 I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 82 And the Titans

Speaker 82 have snatched two defeats from the jaws of victory.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 75 Yeah, but everyone's down on the Titans.

Speaker 75 Maybe I'm just cashing at the right time.

Speaker 61 Wait, so you're down on the Titans?

Speaker 75 I think I might double my bets every week against Malik Willis until I hit one. Got it.

Speaker 76 Okay, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 115 it will happen eventually.

Speaker 5 It has to.

Speaker 66 Although, Jordan Love, that was weird when he was questionable and then doubtful, but it was weird that he was even questionable for a minute.

Speaker 75 Yeah, it was really strange. Yeah.
So then Jordan Love could start, and then I'd feel like a real asshole.

Speaker 60 Yeah, I was worried about that for you.

Speaker 75 I don't think, truth be told, Big Cat, you'll probably agree with this. I think that it's just the Packers.

Speaker 75 If somebody puts on a Packers uniform,

Speaker 75 then they become good at quarterback.

Speaker 139 It's bullshit.

Speaker 75 There's some teams where you put on their uniform and you become a bad quarterback. We know several of them.
And then there are some teams where it's just you fit in.

Speaker 93 And it's, it's, again, it's, they have a backup quarterback and they're like, hey, here's what we're going to do.

Speaker 28 We're going to draw up a perfect game plan.

Speaker 162 Yeah.

Speaker 67 This is how we can win the game and play to our strengths. And then they execute it.

Speaker 34 And then you walk away saying, how the fuck did they just do that? And everyone tweets you being like, Malik Willis has more wins or touchdown passes than Caleb Williams and shit like that.

Speaker 60 Yeah, that's mean.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 75 That's bullshit. And for a while, it was also true that he had more 100-yard passing games.

Speaker 81 Yeah, but not anymore. Not anymore.
Not anymore.

Speaker 40 Wow, you're failing yourself with the handoff king.

Speaker 75 Dude, he handed the fuck out of here.

Speaker 146 He's failing himself with the handoff king.

Speaker 75 Jane Daniels is good.

Speaker 85 He doesn't score a touchdown.

Speaker 75 Browns. Yeah, but guess what? We won, Hank.
We scored 21 points. First team in NFL history to win a game when your opponent scores three touchdowns and you don't score a single touchdown.

Speaker 82 Do offensive, do false starts

Speaker 82 come back to the quarterback or is that not related? It depends.

Speaker 75 It depends on what kind of false start, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 82 Because they had like 27 in the red zone.

Speaker 75 In the red zone, they did. Yeah, that's true.
And we overcame them. yeah um all right browns jaguars you want to see him fail hank

Speaker 60 i think you want to see kale williams fail i want no i want

Speaker 82 i want all of your teams to win i don't i want all of their teams to lose i want caleb i've been nothing but nice about jadeni i want every team in this room to win i want caleb to be good i don't i don't i was rooting for

Speaker 47 that's not the case i was rooting for caleb tonight hank and i just wanted jaden daniels to score a touchdown for yeah for the i bet that as well yeah yeah and they just there were so many times

Speaker 47 he was in great situations. And then

Speaker 9 I was following the game

Speaker 10 on the plane.

Speaker 75 I think I'm the second biggest Caleb fan in this room.

Speaker 100 I don't think so. I don't think so.
Why? I just don't think so.

Speaker 82 I think Hank. I'm on my fancy team.

Speaker 45 Yeah, Hank probably is.

Speaker 131 I like Caleb Williams.

Speaker 114 I think if there's like a mouse in here, he might be.

Speaker 75 I don't know what else to say.

Speaker 45 I'm a critter, creeping crawler on the ground.

Speaker 60 It's okay. He had a bad game.

Speaker 43 We're going to get to it, but it's okay.

Speaker 40 I can feel the shift.

Speaker 66 I felt the shift there.

Speaker 100 I did.

Speaker 47 You guys both want your quarterback to be better than the other.

Speaker 47 Of course.

Speaker 79 Well, yeah.

Speaker 60 Yeah, but I'm not rooting against Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 67 Like, I have never said, you can find one bad thing I've ever said about Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 88 I'm not rooting.

Speaker 47 To be fair, I don't think PFT is.

Speaker 47 I understand the vibe. The vibe shift.

Speaker 83 I'm talking about vibes shift.

Speaker 88 But purely the vibe.

Speaker 47 I think

Speaker 9 both of your vibes are shifting. I think Big Cat's vibes

Speaker 112 at first. Big Cat's on.

Speaker 12 You're on high alert.

Speaker 66 No, I mean, which is fine.

Speaker 21 I said the Malik Willis thing, and then you're like, and also Malik Willis had more 100-yard passing games before Caleb Williams.

Speaker 32 That was, you basically turned into a Twitter.

Speaker 75 Well, at this point in the podcast, I was also feeling salty about losing my bet so badly because it was a big bet.

Speaker 75 And so losing to Malik Willis, then I get mad about Malik Willis.

Speaker 4 But I've been gracious about it.

Speaker 70 I bet the Packers.

Speaker 115 I've been very gracious.

Speaker 96 Yeah.

Speaker 50 I've been very gracious.

Speaker 56 I just fucking hate the Packers, and I know when they're going to win.

Speaker 164 And that was such a Packers game.

Speaker 75 I told you I wanted Caleb Williams to win how many nine Super Bowls?

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 75 And then Jaden just gets three? Yeah. I feel like that's pretty gracious.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 75 We're doing a gracious off.

Speaker 62 Just saying the vibe shifted there.

Speaker 21 All right. Browns Jaguars.

Speaker 10 Let's talk about the Browns Jaguars.

Speaker 61 Browns defense is back.

Speaker 34 Trevor Lawrence had 16 yards in the first 35 minutes of the game,

Speaker 23 and they looked so bad.

Speaker 75 Yeah, I've got a sad Jaguar stat for you, Courtesy, for a good friend, Uncle Chaps. He sent this one over to me.

Speaker 75 You know how long it's been since Trevor has his last victory as a starter?

Speaker 75 It's 294 days.

Speaker 75 It's longer than the drought between his last college victory and his first NFL victory. Oh, man.
So it's been a while.

Speaker 25 Urban Meyer is his coach's first year.

Speaker 75 Yeah, it's been a while for Trevor. The Browns didn't look bad today, and it seems like maybe having their starting tackles back makes a pretty big difference.

Speaker 18 Yeah, they didn't look bad until they did look bad and tried to be the Jaguars.

Speaker 43 They tried to out-Jaguar the Jaguars.

Speaker 40 They had the game in hand, and then they're like, let's see if we can fuck around and give this game to the Jaguars.

Speaker 5 There was that moment with two minutes left where they had a third and 36, up 16 to 13.

Speaker 16 They ended up getting the safety, make it 18-13, but that was close.

Speaker 111 The Browns were close.

Speaker 75 They were close.

Speaker 75 The Browns also passed the ball for some reason when they had the ball, and they were up late.

Speaker 75 They could have essentially run out the clock, but then they decided that they were going to get cute with it and try to pass. Did not work for them.

Speaker 75 It was nice to see Jameis out on the field. Yes.
I guess he's

Speaker 75 their designated quarterback sneaker.

Speaker 154 Memes had the stat 1-0 in games that Jameis plays.

Speaker 121 That's pretty good graphic.

Speaker 75 I think we've got a formula there.

Speaker 121 That's pretty good graphic.

Speaker 6 So are the Browns good or the Jaguars bad?

Speaker 75 I think Jags bad.

Speaker 97 Yeah, I think the Jaguars are bad.

Speaker 43 I think the Browns' defense can still be good against bad quarterbacks.

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 75 Miles Garrett was making Trevor live in hell today.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 148 And Trevor Lawrence did have, he ended up with 220 yards, but yeah, it was ugly for a very long time.

Speaker 75 Yeah, it was very ugly.

Speaker 57 It was a very ugly game. Weird weather.

Speaker 62 And Deshaun Watson, that one graphic, oh man.

Speaker 75 Do we have that? The latest allegation graphic for Deshaun.

Speaker 133 He literally has, he has like working in a factory.

Speaker 34 You know, five days since the last time he's had an allegation against me.

Speaker 75 I have it right here.

Speaker 75 Deshaun Watson, latest. This was a graphic on the TV during the on the broadcast.
Yeah, I said it's bad when they have the latest allegations graphic ready to go. Yeah.
Latest allegations.

Speaker 75 Monday, accused of sexual assault, new lawsuit. This week, strongly denies allegation of 2020 incident.
NFL reviewing under personal conduct policy.

Speaker 75 2022 season, served 11-game ban for violating conduct policy, faces three active lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct, settled 23 claims in 2022, faced no criminal charges.

Speaker 75 That's a rough graphic for you to interrupt the football game with. Yes.
Now, I heard that when they restructured his contract, they did something with being able to cut him for moral issues.

Speaker 100 Yeah, so this summer that report came out that they took the clause out where if he gets another suspension by the NFL,

Speaker 159 he can be cut and not have to pay him as much.

Speaker 75 He's on a zero tolerance policy for committing sexual assault. Yes.
Let that be a lesson.

Speaker 42 It's finally, enough is enough.

Speaker 75 Yeah, after 22 allegations.

Speaker 16 Is it 22? I thought it was more.

Speaker 75 I forget how many. I think it might be in the 30s.
Well, I don't know by the time this podcast comes out. I think we learned our lesson last week.

Speaker 75 Yeah, the Browns didn't look great. Their offense didn't look great.
Jerome Ford looked okay at times, but they're not back where they were last year. They looked like they did with Flacco.
No.

Speaker 61 It's just such a you can't go with a different vibe than

Speaker 62 Joe Flacco to Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 75 Bad vibe. It was also Deshaun Watson's birthday this weekend, which the Browns pointed out by they put out a post on Instagram and on Twitter.

Speaker 75 It seems mean because you know the admin knew exactly what

Speaker 75 happened with the comment section. I don't know.
Maybe that's in his contract. You have to wish me your birthday.
I could see him doing that.

Speaker 75 I could see that too, because there's no other reason for them to just subject themselves to the worst possible replies.

Speaker 103 Yeah.

Speaker 75 It's like, well, I guess they know it's going to do numbers.

Speaker 37 They just stood out there and took it.

Speaker 75 It's going to do interactions. Why didn't memes? Why isn't that part of our social security?

Speaker 16 Yeah, why didn't we wish him a happy birthday?

Speaker 20 We should start wishing Deshaun Watson, please put that in the calendar.

Speaker 75 Yeah, for next year.

Speaker 62 Make sure you wish him a happy birthday on the part of my take socials.

Speaker 144 I think he has this blocked.

Speaker 9 It doesn't matter.

Speaker 100 Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 12 Still wish him a happy birthday.

Speaker 75 Means we're getting too close to the truth.

Speaker 136 Tell the truth.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 104 Last game of the early slate.

Speaker 2 Chargers 26, Panthers 3.

Speaker 64 This is exactly what we expected to happen.

Speaker 163 It happened.

Speaker 27 Jim Harbaugh has completely changed the culture.

Speaker 101 Now, the Panthers are bad. Very, very bad.

Speaker 61 Worst team in the NFL.

Speaker 108 Jim Harbaugh has completely changed the culture of the Chargers to the point where Quentin Johnson is catching footballs.

Speaker 75 Yeah, crazy, right?

Speaker 157 But it actually is, and I know, so I think there's some new,

Speaker 38 not new listeners, but also new just people to Jim, like my love affair with Jim Harbaugh, which has been a very long time.

Speaker 60 I had to have it kind of under wraps when he was the Michigan head coach just because I don't like Michigan.

Speaker 159 Now that he's back on the NFL, I'm going to be posting every single thing the guy does because I love him to death.

Speaker 130 But

Speaker 134 his backing of Quentin Johnson this summer, I feel like gave Quentin Johnson the confidence to be like, you know what, I can catch, and that is my job.

Speaker 67 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Let me go do it.

Speaker 75 Yeah, you need somebody else to believe in you sometime. And that's what happened.

Speaker 27 And he said it after.

Speaker 60 He's like, everyone just piles on the guy, and he's a good football player, and he's going to be a good football player for us.

Speaker 136 It's like, Jim Harbaugh has changed the culture where Quentin Johnson is catching footballs.

Speaker 75 And now Justin Herbert is accepting pregame dap ups from Jim where he just beats the shit out of his shoulder pads and his back.

Speaker 75 The look that Harbaugh gave him after the first week where he's like, no, we're not hugging. This is what I do to quarterbacks for every game.

Speaker 75 And then week two, it rolls around and Herbert's ready for it. He's ready.
He's ready for it. He's ready for contact now.
Yes. Harbaugh has been so much fun to watch.

Speaker 75 Now, if you're a Panthers fan, I do have a stat that will make you feel better.

Speaker 75 I feel like we should give them a little bit of positive, try to find something that Panthers fans can be mildly okay about. Yeah.

Speaker 75 So this is the stat to make you feel better of the week if you're a Panthers fan. Bryce Young had 38% more passing yards in the first half than Trevor Lawrence had.

Speaker 75 So Bryce had 22 yards passing in the first half. Trevor Lawrence had 16 yards passing in the first half.

Speaker 76 So that's big.

Speaker 19 Bryce Young did that little hop he did to try to get it over the lineman was so cute.

Speaker 136 It was.

Speaker 31 I feel bad for Bryce Young.

Speaker 38 I feel bad for Adam Thielen.

Speaker 80 They're a tough watch.

Speaker 27 They're a really, really tough watch.

Speaker 75 Yeah, there's not a lot to look forward to about those games.

Speaker 34 The Panthers didn't get a first down until their fifth drive of the game. And then when they got the first down, the very next play was a Bryce Young interception.

Speaker 75 That's sad. Now, is there something that Carolina Panthers fans could do to do like a reverse major league to make their owner, David Tepper, move the team out of town?

Speaker 75 Like, can you tank property values in the stadium area? He's probably looking for a new stadium anyways, because that's what owners do when they get a team.

Speaker 27 He's just getting restless.

Speaker 50 He's like, well, this toy isn't working. Yeah.

Speaker 75 It's not anything about how I'm running the team. It's just the walls that my team is forced to play in.
That's what's making us bad.

Speaker 75 But if I was a Panthers fan, I would strongly consider trying to force, to ask him to move the team.

Speaker 159 Yeah, this is bad.

Speaker 41 He said, asked

Speaker 56 about his confidence.

Speaker 70 Bryce Young says his confidence is in the Lord.

Speaker 37 At least he's getting it from somewhere.

Speaker 75 That's good. Yeah.

Speaker 33 I just, they're a tough watch.

Speaker 82 And that was. It's in God's hands.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's in God's hands.

Speaker 39 That was the worst matchup for them because the Chargers are a man football team now.

Speaker 38 They ran the ball 44 times.

Speaker 126 Jim Harbaugh just, I mean, yeah, the team is Jim Harbaugh's identity.

Speaker 147 He's so so enrapped in everything that he asked the equipment staff this week to give him Justin Herbert's shoes, whatever sneakers he wears, because there's not a gene in his body I wouldn't immediately trade for.

Speaker 19 Talking about Justin Herbert.

Speaker 75 That's amazing.

Speaker 50 That was his quote.

Speaker 75 That's amazing. I love it.
And I love that he's wearing his shoes now because it probably makes him feel like a quarterback, too. Yeah.
He's like, I'm a real ballpark.

Speaker 81 Yeah, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go.

Speaker 75 So he is keeping the team out east. We talked about this on Thursday.
Yep. So they're staying in Charlotte this week.

Speaker 81 Body clock.

Speaker 75 He said, bring the board games for the trip. I looked into it.
I found out the board game that I'm bringing along.

Speaker 75 I think this was on the athletic. It's called Chameleon.
It can be played by anyone from three to eight players. One player is secretly designated as the chameleon.
A code word is also selected.

Speaker 75 The other players must figure out who the chameleon is before the chameleon figures out the code word. That sounds like a fun game.

Speaker 81 Ooh. So Harbaugh loves it.
Wolf.

Speaker 10 Yeah, werewolf.

Speaker 75 Yeah, it sounds a little bit like secret wolves, right? Yeah, werewolf. So they're going to just be playing chameleon all week, which should be fun.
Just a little boys' trip.

Speaker 75 And Harbaugh was like, I love it. It reminds me of just being back in training camp doing this road trip.
I get it. I get it for him.
But also, like, training camp was like three weeks ago. Yeah.

Speaker 75 Four weeks ago. But he misses it.
He misses training camp. He misses it so much.
He's a football guy. Yeah.
Now, for Bryce Young, he did set a record today.

Speaker 75 So

Speaker 75 he threw for 84 yards on 18 completions, which is record low for that completions. The Panthers haven't led a game in 272 days.
I guess 273 now.

Speaker 75 It's a long time without a lead. So I have a question for you, Big Cat.
Yeah. Can the Panthers, should the Panthers bench Bryce?

Speaker 141 So

Speaker 85 why would you?

Speaker 75 Because he's not very good.

Speaker 48 But what's the point?

Speaker 61 Are you trying to win football games?

Speaker 78 Well,

Speaker 75 that's

Speaker 75 a problem. In theory.

Speaker 59 In theory.

Speaker 6 But you would have, if you're just this bad all year,

Speaker 16 you'd have the number one pick, then you can draft a quarterback of your choosing.

Speaker 156 Yeah.

Speaker 60 I see what you're saying.

Speaker 115 I do think they would maybe fuck around and win a couple games with Danny Dalton.

Speaker 25 I guess the question is what...

Speaker 9 Because

Speaker 4 it sucks for Bryce Young.

Speaker 37 I don't know if he ever would have been a good quarterback, but it doesn't feel like it's ever going to happen in Carolina.

Speaker 42 I feel like that part is kind of done.

Speaker 40 Because even if he plays the rest of this year, there's no way the Panthers are going to be good enough where they're like, we're going to keep him going forward, especially if they have the number one pick.

Speaker 75 Okay, so Canalis was brought in to fix Bryce Young. Right.
Because he's obviously still a very young quarterback. They still probably hope that he can be good.

Speaker 17 You can't give up hope in year two.

Speaker 75 Yeah, so they hired a head coach to fix him. He's not playing well right now.
Would he play better if he was benched right now and got to sit for a while and watch Andy Dalton?

Speaker 75 Would that improve the long-term prospects for Bryce Young? I don't know if it would.

Speaker 62 I don't know. I don't know what I don't.

Speaker 45 I don't think anything would improve.

Speaker 70 Maybe. I guess you could try it.

Speaker 52 Bryce Young.

Speaker 134 But then Andy Dalton, then you come into the problem of

Speaker 18 Andy Dalton plays better.

Speaker 37 Everyone in the locker room is like his guy's better.

Speaker 67 You try to go back to Bryce Young, and everyone in the locker room's like, what the fuck are you guys doing?

Speaker 147 Like, we're putting our bodies on the line, and you just benched the better quarterback.

Speaker 75 And then Bryce Young understands that the better quarterback is Andy Dalton, and then he feels weird about playing. I mean, he probably feels weird about his play right now.

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 66 I mean, it sucks. It's a bummer.
I feel bad for him.

Speaker 115 It's a tough watch.

Speaker 16 He didn't complete a pass over 10 air yards, and he only attempted two of them over 10 air yards.

Speaker 132 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So he's just not even.

Speaker 75 Was one of those a cute little jump?

Speaker 18 It might have been.

Speaker 40 No, that was kind of a sideways.

Speaker 75 Yeah, sidelines. Yeah.

Speaker 91 It's a tough watch.

Speaker 35 The last thing is, I think you posted this as well, PFT, but the Harbaugh quote that we got to play for the people is so, so good.

Speaker 45 I'm going to play it here.

Speaker 49 Let's see. I'm going to find it.

Speaker 9 Let me get it.

Speaker 49 Ready for this? Yep. Guys who like football.

Speaker 165 I love guys who like football. And guys who like football, they like me back.
And I like them back.

Speaker 165 And even guys that don't like football, I mean,

Speaker 165 they try to avoid me because I'm always trying to get them to like football more.

Speaker 109 One of the best quotes ever.

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Speaker 91 Let me play one more time, then I'm going to ask my question. Okay.

Speaker 165 I love guys who like football. And guys who like football, they like me back, and I like them back.

Speaker 165 And even guys that don't like football, I mean, they try to avoid me because I'm always trying to get them to like football more.

Speaker 115 Without saying too much,

Speaker 61 I think we should remix this and make it our new intro.

Speaker 135 Okay.

Speaker 143 What do you think? I'm in.

Speaker 138 Yeah.

Speaker 112 I mean, it's the perfect quote.

Speaker 9 He literally made that quote for us.

Speaker 75 I like guys who like that.

Speaker 163 He described our podcast.

Speaker 75 One of my favorite parts about that quote is he said, I love guys who like football. Yeah.
So you don't even have to love football for Jim Harbaugh to love you. Right.
You just have to like football.

Speaker 75 Right. If you like football, then he loves you.
And then later on in the quote, he almost says, even guys who don't like football, he was almost saying, like, I like those guys too.

Speaker 75 But then he stopped himself. He was like, well, no, they probably don't like me because I'm always trying to get them to love football.
Right.

Speaker 112 Which is so applicable to all of our lives, where it's like, people who don't like football,

Speaker 18 Everyone's been in that

Speaker 69 social setting where it's like you find someone who doesn't like football and you can get through maybe a few minutes of conversation, then just boom.

Speaker 142 Like, wait, so you don't, what do you, what do you do on Sundays?

Speaker 9 Don't watch football?

Speaker 75 Then what's your life? Yeah, what do you do?

Speaker 44 What do you care about?

Speaker 75 What do you love?

Speaker 67 We might as well just be from different countries.

Speaker 40 I don't understand this.

Speaker 75 I love guys who like football. There should be a dating app for just guys that like football.
Yeah.

Speaker 136 It's called Yahoo Fantasy Football.

Speaker 9 I like that.

Speaker 64 It's called DraftKings DFS, which,

Speaker 34 how do we finish? Did I win?

Speaker 82 I was close. Yeah.

Speaker 83 How'd you finish? Dead last.

Speaker 9 Oh,

Speaker 100 that was a great setup. I was

Speaker 49 close as fuck.

Speaker 35 You were?

Speaker 93 Should we remix that and make it an intro?

Speaker 9 I think we should. I'm already working on it.
Oh, hell yes, Max.

Speaker 83 I like it. Let's go.
All right.

Speaker 36 So that's a...

Speaker 115 I'm excited about that.

Speaker 32 And he's our good friend.

Speaker 50 It really is. It's so refreshing that I can just embrace and enjoy everything that Jim Harbaugh does again.

Speaker 27 Because it was like this when he was with the Niners.

Speaker 30 And then when he went to Michigan, I was like, well, I can't.

Speaker 61 I got to take a step back here because I got to play them and all that shit.

Speaker 55 And now we're back.

Speaker 75 It's great. I would watch a hard knocks on just Jim Harbaugh.
Yeah. Just Jim Harbaugh.
Like a nature show. Yeah.

Speaker 75 Like a guy in a khaki outfit just following him around like he's a wildlife photographer, observing Jim and talking about all the things that Jim's doing. Yeah.

Speaker 37 I did see a very funny

Speaker 34 Michigan fan, it seemed like, online, basically trying to get,

Speaker 2 it was very clear it was one of those people that only watches college football.

Speaker 135 Yeah.

Speaker 126 They're like, it took Jim Harbaugh

Speaker 61 two weeks to tie Urban Meyers' wins in the NFL.

Speaker 9 He was in the NFL for a while, and he won a lot of games before that.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I like that though.

Speaker 75 I love, because usually it's all the other way around when it's like NFL guys parachuting into college football and then talking about those players and then to see it come the other way. That's nice.

Speaker 75 Yeah.

Speaker 90 We all have that guy was watching the Chargers game like, wow, Jim Harbaugh is a pretty good NFL coach.

Speaker 75 You know, a lot of times these guys don't translate to the NFL, but Harbaugh does.

Speaker 26 So, yeah, Panthers are the biggest bummer.

Speaker 127 And I don't know what the spread, who are they playing next week?

Speaker 38 Oh, I think they're playing the Raiders.

Speaker 163 Whose line is it anyway?

Speaker 9 Can you find it? Yep.

Speaker 34 It's in Las Vegas, I believe.

Speaker 133 I don't,

Speaker 4 the Panthers are going to get to a point, if they keep losing like this, where their spreads are going to get they're going to be like college football spreads can you imagine yeah okay i'm going to say raiders

Speaker 75 minus seven i'm going to say raiders minus

Speaker 82 seven and a half one of you is correct which one

Speaker 39 pick out seven all right so it'll probably be seven and a half what let me see i'm going to look up the panthers schedule real quick let's see where find their win not only find their win but um I want to see

Speaker 9 how outrageous these games are going to get.

Speaker 82 A nice five and five split next week, too.

Speaker 75 Yeah. I like that.

Speaker 2 Bengals week four

Speaker 43 is going to be a pretty, that's going to be like a 10.

Speaker 60 So they play the Chiefs

Speaker 70 looks like after Thanksgiving.

Speaker 115 I mean, that's mean.

Speaker 136 That could be like a 17-point split.

Speaker 32 That's mean.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 131 They play the Eagles at the Eagles, Cowboys,

Speaker 136 those could be creeping up 14, 17 points, and then you're going to be like, I have to bet them.

Speaker 9 Oh, shit.

Speaker 82 What? I didn't realize we had a Tony Rich Caleb Williams bowl next weekend. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Dude, that's what I've been saying.

Speaker 10 Hello?

Speaker 82 I didn't realize that was all leading up to this.

Speaker 82 Now the feelings make more sense.

Speaker 114 I was saying that I'm like, it's going to be, no matter what, it's going to be hell for me for four hours because

Speaker 74 it's just going to be hell.

Speaker 131 It's going to be hell.

Speaker 85 Where have you been?

Speaker 135 Sorry.

Speaker 47 like a top that was like a point of conversation yeah

Speaker 9 i didn't realize it was next week

Speaker 9 that was the entire point behind

Speaker 134 rich stuff yeah but i'm saying all this stuff knowing there's a chance that anthony richeson could beat caleb williams and i'm just going to i will have to deactivate my twitter yeah

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Speaker 123 Okay,

Speaker 2 should we talk Chiefs Bengals first?

Speaker 75 Let's talk about it, big cat.

Speaker 10 Whoo,

Speaker 150 so Chiefs outlast the Bengals. Bengals looked a lot better.

Speaker 10 Yep.

Speaker 85 A lot better. Joe Burrow looked okay.

Speaker 22 Yep, Joe Burrow looked okay.

Speaker 115 I was like very walked away from that game saying the Bengals that I thought the Bengals might be in trouble.

Speaker 114 I was teetering on that with the wrist and everything and the water bottle.

Speaker 149 I do not think the Bengals are in trouble.

Speaker 136 They just couldn't beat the Chiefs because the Chiefs just are inevitable.

Speaker 155 Yeah, they're inevitable. Million times.

Speaker 1 We had one of the coolest interceptions ever

Speaker 34 by the Bengals, a one-handed grab down the sideline, and it was like this incredible play, Cam Taylor Britt.

Speaker 18 And then like three plays later, Joe Burrow fumbled

Speaker 8 and everyone stopped playing and the Chiefs ran in for a touchdown.

Speaker 75 Yeah, and Cam Taylor Britt was the guy that was talking shit about Xavier Worthy. Yes.
And Xavier Worthy didn't beat him. Patrick Mahomes had, what, like 154 yards passing today? Yeah.

Speaker 75 So they limited him a little bit.

Speaker 142 Xavier Worthy with two for 17.

Speaker 32 So he was kind of right.

Speaker 75 But there's an issue that I've seen creeping up, and it showed its head today. Maybe you'll agree with this.
That last flag of the game. Yeah.

Speaker 75 A lot of people have Chiefs' derangement syndrome when it comes to the refs.

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah. A lot.

Speaker 75 And it's an issue.

Speaker 75 So occasionally the Chiefs will get calls, and I think the biggest difference is with the Chiefs, if they get a call that's borderline, they make you pay for it, and they end up winning the game usually if they get one thing that goes in their favor.

Speaker 75 This was a perfectly normal call, and then you see all the people like across the NFL media landscape posting still shots of what appears to not be pass interference. Correct.

Speaker 75 It was very clearly pass interference. Yes.
Listen, the Chiefs, we can complain about the Chiefs being thieves of joy, but it doesn't always have to be the refs gave a win to the Chiefs.

Speaker 60 It's even one, I completely agree with everything you said.

Speaker 62 It's one more than that because it is the Bengals.

Speaker 37 Yes.

Speaker 12 And listen, we love Joe Burrow.

Speaker 34 We've spent some time in Cincinnati.

Speaker 48 Bengals fans, for the most part,

Speaker 131 are very good people.

Speaker 115 They also probably lead the league in online

Speaker 69 screen grabs, posting them constantly.

Speaker 40 This all started maybe with the DeMar Hamlin stuff, and like it's not fair that we're doing a coin flip, all this shit.

Speaker 10 But

Speaker 27 Bengals fans and Chiefs fans is a very combustible situation.

Speaker 147 And then you add a defensive pass interference, which I agree was

Speaker 9 pass interference.

Speaker 134 And you have what's going on right now where we have, the minute you have reply guys

Speaker 8 quoting the NFL rule book, you know you're in too deep.

Speaker 29 Yes.

Speaker 39 And we have, and then I don't know if you've seen this, PFT, but Bengals fans have now also, and I'm not.

Speaker 28 I'm not judging Bengals fans because I would do the same thing.

Speaker 44 So I just want that on the record that Bengals fans, you have every right to be upset about this, maybe for like two days.

Speaker 60 Then you got to get on with the season.

Speaker 85 They found a holding call or a holding call that was missed on that same play.

Speaker 48 So they're now screen grabbing that and throwing it under every single reply.

Speaker 44 But you're absolutely right.

Speaker 6 The Chiefs are very, very hard to beat.

Speaker 69 So if they get any call late in a game, whether it's warranted or not,

Speaker 18 Everyone's going to be like, this is bullshit.

Speaker 6 The Chiefs already are really good.

Speaker 36 Why are we helping them out at all?

Speaker 75 Yeah, and if you remember that game last year where Mahomes did not get the call, and then after the game,

Speaker 75 and then after the game, he was like, no, I'm not going to blame it on that. I'm not going to complain about that.

Speaker 9 I'm going to yell at my wide receivers.

Speaker 75 Yeah, like

Speaker 75 sometimes the shit doesn't go your way. And I get it, too, if you're a Bengals fan because you're furious.
You played good enough to win. You lose at the last second.

Speaker 75 So you are, and you can find all the screenshots that you want if you just look at every play.

Speaker 75 You can just pause it and it'll be blurry enough and take a picture and be like, look, our guy got held on that one. You didn't call it.
You have to have some.

Speaker 75 You can't just be like, okay, I admit it. We lost great game Chiefs.
You have to fight it for a a little bit. Yeah, you have to.

Speaker 75 You have to fight it, and you have to be like, well, we didn't really lose. The refs fucked us.
Yeah.

Speaker 75 And that'll make you go to sleep a little bit better if you can be angry at somebody that's not your own team. Right.

Speaker 75 Or just, you don't, you want to delay accepting the fact that the Chiefs are just really good when it counts. Right.
And they just are.

Speaker 40 We should note, there was that one game where he did complain.

Speaker 77 Remember, he went up, I think it was after, I think he went up to Josh after a game and was like, that was bullshit and you know it.

Speaker 70 He apologized afterwards.

Speaker 40 But that was heat of the moment.

Speaker 20 Bengals fans are in heat of the the moment right now.

Speaker 9 You get 48 hours, go off, say everything you want.

Speaker 17 It's going to make you feel a little bit better.

Speaker 60 It's not going to change anything.

Speaker 52 Yeah, screen grabbing.

Speaker 157 But it will make you feel better.

Speaker 75 Screen grabbing the NFL rulebook is a wild move.

Speaker 75 Right, but especially the one that was going around, which was like, you don't have to call pass interference if the defender is making a normal play of the ball and they're not like trying to move the other guy out of the way.

Speaker 75 Then you could say that about almost every pass interference. You'd be like, look, I think he was trying to make a play on the ball.

Speaker 9 And here's a pathetic fact about all of us, and I'm talking to all the listeners, all of us in this room, and this is just the truth.

Speaker 8 When you get screwed in a game like this,

Speaker 29 when you think you get screwed in a game like this, because again, we don't think that they got screwed.

Speaker 81 That was the right call.

Speaker 27 When you think you get screwed in a game like this, sometimes the best coping mechanism is to get in an hours-long argument with a random person on Twitter.

Speaker 33 Yeah, that's what you do. You just

Speaker 93 go back and forth with someone and you try to well-actually them, and you never get to an actual point that makes any sense whatsoever and you guys will never see eye to eye, but it's it's kind of it kind of brings off the stress and you're like, hey, you know what?

Speaker 6 I feel better that I just had a

Speaker 52 like two-hour argument with with fart sniffer69 and I don't even know where he is.

Speaker 75 Yeah, then you just get really mad at fart sniffer. Yeah, right.
And you're like this guy online. And then when he then block him.

Speaker 75 Then when he makes a good point, you just stop responding to the conversation. Yeah, agree to this.
And you move on. But

Speaker 75 you can see how the Chiefs are just morphing everybody into like a conspiracy theorist. Yes.
When they win these types of games. It's Chiefs Agate.
Right. Is what it is.

Speaker 75 And they're just like, this cannot be how the game ended. You must have cheated.
I'm going to get to the bottom of this.

Speaker 16 It's kind of like the Super Bowl against the Eagles.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 109 Where there's two things

Speaker 18 can exist in the same exact universe where a penalty can be a penalty, and you can also be mad that the game ended on that.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 97 That's the truth. Like the Eagles' penalty was a penalty.

Speaker 64 And we all said, well, that was a really underwhelming finish for a Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 This game was a really good game that was hard fought back and forth.

Speaker 18 And having it end on a penalty

Speaker 92 when it felt like the Bengals had the Chiefs on the ropes, that sucks.

Speaker 3 And guess what, Bengals?

Speaker 132 I feel like even though you're 0-2 and you got to start winning some games, which I think you will.

Speaker 75 A tough game on Monday.

Speaker 33 I think

Speaker 6 you proved that now that Joe Burrow is back, you guys are the hardest out for the Chiefs.

Speaker 142 That's a fact.

Speaker 6 They are the hardest out for the Chiefs.

Speaker 18 If you ask Chiefs fans, if you ask Patrick Molly, if you ask Andy Reid, you hit him with True Sear, and you're like, what team do you not want to play?

Speaker 115 It's the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 75 Yeah, I think the Bills could be up there in that argument, but if

Speaker 75 they're even a big game, but if you ask the Chiefs, they'd say we'd much rather play against the Bills than against the Chiefs.

Speaker 75 It's not that the Bills are like head and shoulders better, but I think right now I would put them easily ahead of the Bengals. Yeah, the Bengals

Speaker 75 haven't won a a game yet.

Speaker 75 What is going on with T. Higgins?

Speaker 85 I don't know.

Speaker 75 Do we know? Is T.

Speaker 91 Higgins? Yoshi's next up, though.

Speaker 75 No, Yoshi's fun. Yeah.
He's good.

Speaker 118 Very fun.

Speaker 75 But Jamar Chase is in. T.
Higgins is out. It's exactly the opposite of what we thought it would be like two weeks ago.
Yep. So I don't know what's going on with T.
Higgins.

Speaker 51 I think Jamar Chase and T.

Speaker 114 Higgins, from everything I understand, they just flip-flop with who's got the headlines this week that they're upset.

Speaker 75 That's what I'm saying. Like, it was Jamar Chase until the last week of training camp, and then T.
Higgins has an injury, and then some people are saying it's not a real injury. And T.

Speaker 75 Higgins had to come out last week and say, I'm not faking it. It's real.

Speaker 9 And Bengals. I don't know.

Speaker 8 Can Bengals fans explain it to me?

Speaker 28 Because I've heard conflicting reports.

Speaker 3 But essentially, what I understand is this all just goes back to the fact that Mike Brown is poor by

Speaker 48 NFL owners' standards.

Speaker 9 He's poor.

Speaker 18 Like, he doesn't have the money to throw at everyone.

Speaker 40 And

Speaker 30 this is what ends up happening.

Speaker 43 He threw all the money at Joe Burrow, which he obviously should have, but now he's got to pay everyone else, and it's difficult.

Speaker 75 And Jamar Chase says that he's not going to negotiate this season. He feels like they lied to him

Speaker 75 in the process. That's not good.
So it's not good. It's not good, whatever's happening in Cincinnati.
And I think it does boil down to the fact that he doesn't like spending money.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 75 You forced him. He had his back up against a wall and had to give a massive contract to Joe Burrow.
Yeah.

Speaker 75 And so now he doesn't have any money for his receivers.

Speaker 34 Yeah, this is why you just should never draft really good players because then you have to pay them.

Speaker 164 Yep.

Speaker 103 Facts. What a curse.

Speaker 48 We also have gotten a little too far with

Speaker 34 everything that Patrick Mahomes does is the best thing ever because did you hear that clip that Tony Romo, when Patrick Mahomes, he just missed Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 60 He threw it, underthrew Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 30 It went in the dirt.

Speaker 40 And

Speaker 45 Tony Romo, I got to find the quote.

Speaker 159 He basically was like, that's a winning play. He did that intentionally.

Speaker 60 It was so not intentional, but another Chiefs derangement where Patrick Mahomes could have an incompletion and Tony Romo would be like, that was awesome.

Speaker 75 Green himself, dude. I've been watching quarterbacks that throw that incompletion for the last 25 years.

Speaker 100 There's nothing special.

Speaker 132 No.

Speaker 39 A lot of guys can throw that incompletion, but not like Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 129 Yeah,

Speaker 93 it was a great game.

Speaker 161 I feel like the Bengals are going to be okay.

Speaker 126 I really do.

Speaker 159 I watched that game being like, the Bengals are going to be fine.

Speaker 62 They do have to win a couple games.

Speaker 142 It's the September Bengals.

Speaker 7 Well, yeah, they always get to this point where they're like, now we've got to win some games.

Speaker 75 They always start 0-2.

Speaker 75 This is a third straight year starting 0-2, I think.

Speaker 160 Yeah, I might have to just bet on them to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 103 It feels like they're probably a good price.

Speaker 53 They're probably good, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 23 Yeah,

Speaker 160 they started in a bad spot.

Speaker 27 It's crazy to say that

Speaker 34 the Pittsburgh Steelers are 2-0, and the Bengals and the Ravens are 0-2.

Speaker 138 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Both badly need a win.

Speaker 12 Who do the Bengals have next week?

Speaker 75 Bengals have the Commanders. Oh.
Monday Night Football.

Speaker 100 Then they badly need a win.

Speaker 75 It's an LSU quarterback party.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 75 And I'm going to be staring at it.

Speaker 37 And they play, so the Bengals have the Commanders and Panthers next two weeks.

Speaker 75 Yeah, this feels to me like I'm about to get my ass kicked. So this should be, the Bengals should get right-ish.
The only good news is that it's not the standalone Monday game.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Don't play.

Speaker 75 I feel like we play worse when we have the nation's undivided attention on our shitty team. Yeah.

Speaker 5 By the way, update on

Speaker 34 Dylan Riola cosplaying as Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 20 I feel very confident in my position that it's weird.

Speaker 75 What did he do this week?

Speaker 69 He did the exact replica of the run to the end zone to pump up the crowd doing this.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 34 And then he did the jump that Mahomes does where he does a jump squat.

Speaker 75 And it was weird. Okay, that's strange.
It's strange, but if it works,

Speaker 75 but if it works.

Speaker 66 No knock on the guy.

Speaker 92 He's a really good quarterback.

Speaker 33 It's weird what he's doing.

Speaker 113 Do you feel confident in it, Hank?

Speaker 142 Are you still...

Speaker 104 Oh, you have to defend it because of the Tatum Kobe stuff.

Speaker 82 I don't think it's that weird.

Speaker 9 Wait, all right.

Speaker 87 So

Speaker 82 let let me

Speaker 82 hear you out. Quarterback before the game goes up to a student section, gets them pumped up, and stretches.

Speaker 57 Okay, if a quarterback ran to the end zone and did the

Speaker 10 let's fucking go.

Speaker 145 You feel like every quarterback does it every game?

Speaker 79 Oh, no.

Speaker 9 You're reaching. No, I'm.

Speaker 10 Hank.

Speaker 53 Well, first of all, you don't watch college football, so I can't really

Speaker 6 know what you're talking about.

Speaker 82 I saw the same highlight you saw on Twitter.

Speaker 18 And you don't think that that's weird?

Speaker 5 If you put them side by side, I'm sure if you did that with a million other quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 But then you add in the hair and the facial hair.

Speaker 9 It's a trending hairstyle.

Speaker 17 I'll agree with you.

Speaker 114 If the facial hair and the regular hair weren't...

Speaker 6 If he had totally different hair, totally different facial hair, didn't wear the same shades, and he did the pump-up, I would agree with you.

Speaker 149 Like, that's all right, whatever, that's fine.

Speaker 87 It's everything.

Speaker 53 Max, I feel like you're.

Speaker 47 He's a fucking. It's so weird, and you know that it's weird.

Speaker 33 Like, the look on Hank's face knows that he knows that it's weird of course he does he's playing devil's advocate which I appreciate it's it's what you do if you're an 11 year old in your backyard there's not when you're the starting

Speaker 75 Nebraska who's just kidding he's a good quarterback that's the craziest part be yourself what happens if he gets drafted I know like is he gonna is he gonna still act like Patrick Mahomes when he's in the NFL no that would be an electric video though he shaves the head isn't he like gonna isn't he like

Speaker 10 the number one pick when he's very good

Speaker 37 yeah like and he's and it's not a knock on him as a person It's just weird.

Speaker 47 I think it's, I mean, it's so weird. I'm ready to say it's a knock on him.

Speaker 15 It feels like he wants to steal his life.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 47 It's weird.

Speaker 23 It's weird.

Speaker 75 So it was that talented Mr. Ripley? Yeah.
Is that the one where he just becomes people?

Speaker 30 Again, Hank has to defend it because of the Jason Tatum, Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 76 Yeah.

Speaker 71 Just kids, just kids.

Speaker 27 Just kids, just kids.

Speaker 82 I don't think it's that weird.

Speaker 74 Can you imagine?

Speaker 82 Again, it's like you want to be the best quarterback in the world. Why not emulate the best quarterback in the world? Hank.

Speaker 33 You are a starting quarterback quarterback for Nebraska.

Speaker 132 Why don't you just be yourself and be the best quarterback in the world?

Speaker 59 That's what he's doing.

Speaker 22 No, no, that's not what he's doing.

Speaker 77 He's getting the crowd pumped up.

Speaker 82 It's stretching.

Speaker 75 What if it's just a coincidence? What if he doesn't even know that he's a bad person?

Speaker 164 He did kind of try to say that.

Speaker 33 He's like,

Speaker 92 he had a quote where he was like, yeah, I was playing baseball when I was growing up, which, again,

Speaker 80 okay.

Speaker 6 He's like, I didn't really watch football, so I don't.

Speaker 74 Or what did he say?

Speaker 75 No, he said that he was like, why do you wear number 15 he goes oh yeah I was a big Tim Tebow fan yeah right yeah right and it's like you were no it's Patrick Mahomes like it's Patrick Mahomes yeah what if he like what if he starts dating a girl that looks like Britney Tebow he was he makes his brother act like like Jackson

Speaker 75 he had memes

Speaker 75 there was also a story that he transferred to Nebraska because the colors of the jersey look more like

Speaker 75 look more like the chiefs than Georgia does now is that is that true or is that something you read it's just a rumor, and there were a lot of people saying it.

Speaker 138 Okay, a lot of people saying it.

Speaker 77 I like that rumor.

Speaker 9 He's a good quarterback. Yeah, he is.

Speaker 9 Be yourself.

Speaker 53 You guys are haters.

Speaker 75 I think it's very funny. It's definitely weird, but it's also funny.
I think it's cool. You should start doing it, Hank.

Speaker 22 You should.

Speaker 82 Not Mahomes. Fuck that guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 51 You should start dressing like Shannon Sharp.

Speaker 9 Unk Lockwood. That would be cool.
Unk Lockwood would be awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 82 Double Unk. That'd be sick.

Speaker 80 All right.

Speaker 139 Next game. Yeah.

Speaker 30 I'm happy we are in complete agreement that the world has Chiefs' derangements.

Speaker 75 And it pains me to say that because, like, yeah, sometimes the Chiefs, they beat teams that I would prefer to beat the Chiefs. I'm not saying I'm a Chiefs hater because I'm not.
I respect the Chiefs.

Speaker 75 I respect greatness in all its forms.

Speaker 75 When they beat the Bills in the playoffs, sometimes I'm like, yeah, I wish Josh Allen was able to beat this team and go to a Super Bowl. That'd be fun.
So

Speaker 75 I'm not a Chiefs hater at all. And you're forcing me to to have to

Speaker 75 show you, like open your eyes. This is weird to complain about that pass interference call.

Speaker 114 I also think the Chiefs fans have a little part in this.

Speaker 115 They have to do their part where they have to kind of morph into Patriots fans and just.

Speaker 75 Circle the wagons.

Speaker 81 Well, no, no, no.

Speaker 32 Just admit, like, you're better than everyone, and you're not going to bother with the peons of the NFL because that's the best.

Speaker 60 The one thing that I can't stand is when Chiefs fans are like, well, we had so many bad quarterbacks before.

Speaker 40 Yeah, no shit. Everyone has had bad quarterbacks.

Speaker 70 You have the best quarterback.

Speaker 1 Just tell everyone that you're better than them.

Speaker 96 Yeah.

Speaker 97 I would respect that more.

Speaker 134 Don't get in arguments.

Speaker 7 Don't say, oh, oh, well, you know, what about this call and this call that went against us?

Speaker 4 No, no, just say, we're better than you. Yeah.

Speaker 33 That's what you need to do because you're going to be the villain no matter what.

Speaker 83 You win enough that you have become the villains, embrace the villain role, and just be the villains of the NFL.

Speaker 155 Yeah.

Speaker 75 It's crazy because there are thousands of unique Photoshops of refs wearing what appear to be Kansas City Chiefs gear. Usually it's like one or two.
Yeah. There's like the ref doing the Lambo leap.

Speaker 75 Yeah. There's that one.
But with the Chiefs, it's seriously, I've seen thousands of them that are all different.

Speaker 135 Yes, yes.

Speaker 135 Okay.

Speaker 18 The Cardinals-Rams, we can do quickly.

Speaker 69 Kyler Murray was sensational.

Speaker 75 Yeah, he was really good. Marvin Harrison Jr., awesome first.

Speaker 77 Called it on Friday.

Speaker 75 Awesome first quarter for him. It was the first win over the Rams at home for the Cardinals since 2014.
10 years.

Speaker 6 I seriously,

Speaker 115 Kyler was, he played perfect football to start that game. Yeah.

Speaker 123 And

Speaker 52 he was making the right, like running at the right time, passing at the right time.

Speaker 25 Marvin Harrison, deep balls.

Speaker 62 James Conner might be my favorite running back to watch just because of how he runs.

Speaker 40 It's crazy that he can run that upright and just like roll over people.

Speaker 81 It is crazy.

Speaker 52 It's so much fun.

Speaker 27 When he gets the ball with ahead of steam and he's just standing, he looks like a different creature out there.

Speaker 75 They're not used to hitting a guy that's upright like that.

Speaker 97 Yeah, and he shouldn't be that tall.

Speaker 61 They don't make running backs like that.

Speaker 75 Yeah, it was a fun game if you're a Cardinals fan. If you're a Rams fan, you're in trouble.
You're in trouble. Cooper Cup.
I don't know if he's actually injured or if he tweaks something.

Speaker 75 And then Sean McVay smartly was like, don't play for the rest of this game. You don't have to hurt yourself anymore.
We're already banged up to hell. So he didn't play in the second half.

Speaker 75 And the Rams are already crushed by injuries right now.

Speaker 60 It feels like 2022 Rams.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 164 When they had that year where it was just everyone got hurt at the same time and they were fucked.

Speaker 75 Yeah, your offensive line is not looking great. Two receivers that are injured.
I felt bad for the Rams in the second. It looked like McVay was just trying to get the game over.
Yeah.

Speaker 75 Like, let's just turn the page on this one.

Speaker 12 Yeah, because the Cardinals just rolled them.

Speaker 77 And

Speaker 83 I've said it, but the Cardinals are my fun watch.

Speaker 69 They're fun.

Speaker 75 They're a very fun watch.

Speaker 18 Tyler Murray, when he's healthy, is so much fun to watch.

Speaker 75 And that loss at the Bills week one looks like maybe the best loss of the year so far. That was a fun watch.
It was a great loss.

Speaker 52 Yeah, and it was a fun game.

Speaker 75 And you didn't have to show Marvin Harrison.

Speaker 131 Yeah.

Speaker 69 You knew they were going to get him.

Speaker 75 Save it for week two. Yeah.

Speaker 25 And then speaking of fun watches, the opposite of that was Steelers-Broncos.

Speaker 75 Yeah, I feel like the Steelers are like that every year. Yeah.
Not a fun watch, but they win.

Speaker 8 But then you add in Bo Nicks,

Speaker 103 who has struggled,

Speaker 162 still time. But, yeah,

Speaker 27 it was tough to watch.

Speaker 48 Justin Fields was good for a half.

Speaker 145 Yeah.

Speaker 6 What was his first half?

Speaker 34 I think he had like 100 yards in the first half and then ended with 117.

Speaker 75 Yeah, they just ran the ball in the second half. They didn't even really look like they wanted to score at all.

Speaker 115 Yeah, and their defense is so good.

Speaker 159 And you knew going into this game that Bonix would be in trouble.

Speaker 25 Sean Payton gets the double whammy of what the fuck are you doing, where he kicked a sad field goal because the Broncos have never been shut out at home.

Speaker 27 So that felt like he was kicking the field goal for that specific reason.

Speaker 159 That one came, let's see, it was 10 minutes left,

Speaker 103 Or sorry.

Speaker 59 Yeah, it was 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter, down 13 to nothing.

Speaker 36 They kicked a field goal. Yep.

Speaker 6 And then, I guess, because he kicked that first field goal, he did have to kick the second field goal.

Speaker 52 And then with, what, two minutes left, 154 left,

Speaker 96 he kicked it deep.

Speaker 34 He did not do an on-side kick.

Speaker 75 Yeah, so he only likes his prize on-side kicks. Yeah.
There's somebody out there online, Jacob Sanderson, wrote this up pretty good, I think. He said, Sean Payton made me suffer today.

Speaker 75 I'm going to make you suffer with me. So this spells out pretty good.
Sean Payton had four possessions that reached or began in the fourth quarter today, starting down 13-0.

Speaker 75 On possession one, Payton passed up a fourth and six from the 16 with 10.45 remaining in favor of field goals to make it 13 to 3.

Speaker 75 In exchange for giving up the ball, his team went from needing two touchdowns to needing two touchdowns.

Speaker 75 Fortunately for Payton, he did get the ball back, but this time he chose to punt on fourth and eight from the 33 with 7.57 remaining, locking himself into a best-case scenario of getting the ball back with about five and a half minutes remaining down two possessions.

Speaker 75 Again, he'd need his defense to either stop punting, stop either punting or missing on fourth down.

Speaker 75 So Peyton decided on the second straight possession that being down 10 instead of 13 was worth not having the ball and losing two plus minutes of the game.

Speaker 75 On possession three, Peyton faced a fourth and five at the 11 with 155 remaining.

Speaker 75 Once again, he chose the path of the foot, making it 13 to 6 and foregoing a chance to play to win regulation and to need only a field goal on his potential next drive so sean payton was playing extend the game until the game ended it's crazy so extend the game works if if you end up extending the game enough to win the game yeah but if you lose all that time by trying to extend the game you're actually shortening the game it felt like sean payton has a secret clause in his contract uh

Speaker 41 that who who's walmart family the waltons the walton family yeah the waltons gave him a special clause in his contract being like it doesn't matter wins and losses we just need to have the ball with a chance to to tie.

Speaker 164 Yeah.

Speaker 30 And that's how he played the game because they did actually get the ball back with nine seconds left.

Speaker 75 People watched the TV.

Speaker 115 And a chance to tie.

Speaker 75 You know what? If people are watching on TV all the way through the fourth quarter, that's good for business. Yeah.
That's good rating. It's like some Jerry Reinsdorf shit.

Speaker 75 You can sell advertising in the fourth quarter for way more than you sell it for in the first quarter. Yeah.
Yeah. I guess it's smart.

Speaker 75 They also did a Terrible Towel knockoff giveaway at the game today, which I feel like teams are 0 for lifetime when they play the Steelers and they try to do their own Terrible Towel giveaway. Yeah.

Speaker 75 Because what they try to do is they try to drown out the Towels in the stadium with their own home team towels. And you don't piss off the Terrible Towels.
No. You just don't do that.
No.

Speaker 6 It was bad.

Speaker 50 Steelers are well ahead of schedule for their 8-9 or 9-8.

Speaker 131 It feels like.

Speaker 27 So Russians is

Speaker 9 still out.

Speaker 75 He was inactive, but also the emergency quarterback. Again.
Again, today.

Speaker 115 Jussie's 2-0.

Speaker 75 Jussie's 2-0. Do you stick with Jussie? I think you got to go Russie.

Speaker 136 You think think you go Russi?

Speaker 75 I think you got to go Russie at this point because if you go Jussie again,

Speaker 75 you're essentially playing a game of Russian, Justin Roulette, I guess, with him. Because if you put Justin back in, eventually he will have a good game that they win because of him.

Speaker 75 And if that happens before he has his bad game, then you've got to keep going with Justin. At that point, you can't switch to Russi.

Speaker 75 Right now, Justin has played poorly enough where you can make that switch right now.

Speaker 75 And then maybe if Russell Wilson struggles, then you put Justin in.

Speaker 75 So I think you got to go back and then maybe you go back again. Yeah.
Switch back and forth. Yeah.
And there's also, there's always one play in every Steelers game.

Speaker 75 It happens every week where they run like an outside stretch play against the Steelers defense and they don't block TJ Watt. Yeah.

Speaker 77 And it's always a four-yard loss.

Speaker 75 And every week, TJ Watt makes a tackle easily in the backfield on the running back. Yeah.

Speaker 27 And it almost gives him like a freebie that just gets him even more juiced up.

Speaker 75 But why does every single team run that play?

Speaker 10 I don't know.

Speaker 75 He's such a monster. He is a monster.

Speaker 5 He's an absolute monster. Yeah, their defense looks awesome.

Speaker 75 I have a Bo Nick stat for you. Oh, no.
Bo Nix is 11 of 36 for 212 yards and four picks on passes that are more than five yards downfield.

Speaker 75 So more than five yards downfield, 11 for 36, four interceptions on those.

Speaker 75 Not very good. And he is like...
He's treated like a coach's son. Yeah.
Sean Payton looks at him like he's his son. Yeah.
And

Speaker 38 whatever was in that backpack.

Speaker 75 We got to know. Yeah.

Speaker 164 Famous backpack. All right.

Speaker 155 Last game before we do who's back week.

Speaker 35 We'll talk a little Monday night football as well.

Speaker 20 The Texans 19, the Bears 13.

Speaker 17 What would you, Hank? I'll let you decide.

Speaker 64 What would you like me to do first?

Speaker 159 You want me to get as negative as I've been getting in the last, I don't know, 45 minutes that we've been taping and talking about other games?

Speaker 6 Or do you want me to do what is trying to be a reasonable

Speaker 159 stop laughing, memes?

Speaker 76 Memes, you deleted deleted everything on your phone i haven't done that uh

Speaker 124 listen we all deal with losses poorly here i think that's i think that we've learned if we learn anything from from this podcast we all are not great when our teams lose would you like me to get really really dark really really negative or the calm easy like it's going to be okay

Speaker 82 let's get dark first and then do the calm at the end and then move on okay so the dark is uh kale williams is going to get murdered.

Speaker 155 He's going to get killed behind this offensive line.

Speaker 39 And I don't know how this offensive line is so, so bad, and we just completely ignored it.

Speaker 57 It's the old meme,

Speaker 57 you know, Panay Sewell blocking, throw it to literally anyone.

Speaker 60 Jamar Chase is in completion.

Speaker 114 He is going to get killed.

Speaker 50 He got, I think there was, what was the stat?

Speaker 115 He got pressured, and he did not play well.

Speaker 12 I want that on the record. He did not play well.

Speaker 80 He played well for a half.

Speaker 3 I thought his first half was very good.

Speaker 130 It was better.

Speaker 115 What do you do in that face?

Speaker 131 What was that face?

Speaker 53 Well,

Speaker 9 okay. I thought his first

Speaker 29 Sunday night football, first start on the road in the NFL.

Speaker 36 He played well in the first half.

Speaker 34 He did not play well in the second half.

Speaker 76 He still doesn't have a touchdown.

Speaker 12 Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 52 Those things kind of take some time, okay, Max?

Speaker 61 What was the stat? I'm going to find it.

Speaker 6 36 pressures on 42 pass attempts for Caleb Williams tonight.

Speaker 75 And he was getting hit on every single one of them. He was getting just driven into the, he took some big shots tonight.

Speaker 150 Six

Speaker 62 times he had a

Speaker 61 semi-clean pocket.

Speaker 159 He did not play well in the second half.

Speaker 62 I do think he looked better in the first half than he did against the Titans.

Speaker 42 Calmer, hitting some guys.

Speaker 27 He missed a lot of guys downfield.

Speaker 31 You could say that's pressure.

Speaker 115 You could also say that that's just what it is.

Speaker 41 I don't know.

Speaker 4 I just don't fucking know, okay?

Speaker 131 I don't know.

Speaker 103 Can I tell you something? It's all fucked up. It's all fucked up right now.

Speaker 75 Can I tell you something? What? Watching the game, I thought that Caleb Williams was like probably the sixth or seventh biggest concern.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 141 So I appreciate that.

Speaker 136 I appreciate that.

Speaker 47 Being honest, name a couple. Okay.

Speaker 18 I wish we had done...

Speaker 27 I wish, so we taped the first

Speaker 54 10 games, the recap of the first 10 games before Sunday night football.

Speaker 29 You've probably already tweeted this at me, but everything we said about Brian Dable and his challenges, Matt Eberflues is 100 million times worse.

Speaker 52 Those were two of the dumbest challenges I've ever seen.

Speaker 83 I don't know

Speaker 33 what the fuck he was doing.

Speaker 75 One was right in front of him. Right in front of him.
You could see him on the sideline watch the play, clearly two feet down, and then he challenged it because he didn't like it.

Speaker 75 And then later on, challenging with the interception.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 75 there was zero chance. Take the flag away from him.
Yeah. He shouldn't have access to that.
He's lost flag privileges.

Speaker 133 He has.

Speaker 5 His brain for those two challenges was no different than

Speaker 114 my five-year-old's brain when I watch him do something bad and then I'm like, why'd you do that?

Speaker 27 And he's like, I didn't do that.

Speaker 1 Like it was a five-year-old brain to try to convince someone that

Speaker 4 what just happened did not happen.

Speaker 9 We all saw it.

Speaker 7 We all watched it happen in slow-mo.

Speaker 1 And then you're like, nah, fuck it. Maybe they'll just look at it and be like, no, it's totally different.

Speaker 75 So listen, every coach kind of has that little bit of,

Speaker 75 I guess, delusion in them where they want bad things to not be true. I think a lot of people have that.
It's a natural thing.

Speaker 75 What separates good coaches from bad coaches is having some sort of system that accounts for that, where you have somebody that's not as emotionally attached to what just happened tell you, hey, Matt, that's a bad idea to challenge it.

Speaker 75 You're going to lose a challenge. Yeah.
Hey, Matt, don't do that. We're going to lose a timeout.
They don't have that in place.

Speaker 75 That's the concerning part to me.

Speaker 140 Um,

Speaker 164 so yeah, I'm borderline thinking like everything's fucked and

Speaker 124 everything's fucked.

Speaker 160 Do you want me to do the positive?

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Okay, so,

Speaker 10 boys, it's the second start.

Speaker 34 The offensive line is historically bad.

Speaker 34 People aren't talking about the fact that those two interceptions, he actually made incredible plays to extend the play and then had to throw them up hoping something worked.

Speaker 2 And the Bears' defense is elite.

Speaker 5 The Bears' defense showed up tonight where they time and time again were put in very bad spots, and they kept on answering the bell and kept on making big plays after big plays.

Speaker 36 And the Texans are a Super Bowl-contending team that they went in there and they held them to, I think they had one offensive touchdown, right?

Speaker 75 Let's see. Nico Collins scored.
Nico Collins scored.

Speaker 2 I think everything else was field goals.

Speaker 75 Mixing did not score. Yeah.

Speaker 76 I think it was all field goals.

Speaker 81 They were all long field goals, too.

Speaker 76 Long-ass. We kept them to long-ass fields.

Speaker 81 Long field goals.

Speaker 75 You held them to extremely long distance field goals. Also, you guys have a good kicker.

Speaker 41 Oh, yeah. Kyro Santos, I trust 100%.

Speaker 45 Yeah.

Speaker 60 And kicking has gotten easy for everyone.

Speaker 145 But yeah, I'm in a bad spot right now.

Speaker 18 I know that this is exactly what people wanted to hear.

Speaker 64 Guess what? You got your wish.

Speaker 5 I'm in a bad spot. I'm in a bad spot because I think

Speaker 137 I'm actually worried that even if Caleb Williams, I still believe in Caleb Williams.

Speaker 36 I don't know if Caleb Williams will survive.

Speaker 163 Yes. The offensive line is that bad.

Speaker 75 Yeah, the offensive line was bad on, was it the second to last play, that sack that he took, where Danielle Hunter just landed on him, just jumped on him like a spider-monk?

Speaker 164 Crushed time and time again.

Speaker 75 It was all night he was getting killed, and so he's going to be very, very sore.

Speaker 45 And also,

Speaker 75 you can run the ball next week.

Speaker 26 Yeah, probably. Maybe, hopefully.

Speaker 93 The worst part is that I think that Hank is going to be proven exactly correct that this was a huge mistake having Iber Flues come back.

Speaker 75 So Hank drafted him, though.

Speaker 51 And Shane waldron like i don't know what the fuck's going on with the calls on this like it felt like every single time it was either a false start or the call came in late or caleb didn't get it or everyone was running around and i i don't know if dj moore doesn't like caleb anymore i'm i'm everything's bad okay everything's bad yeah what was up with him like not running i don't know he was tired okay everyone gets tired on sunday nights oh you're tired right now you're big you're half asleep Not as bad as last week.

Speaker 82 There has been like, I think, a 75% increase in false starts in illegal formations across the league this year. It's

Speaker 82 unbearable to watch, yeah.

Speaker 75 Yeah, the uh, the play calls were getting in late. It seemed like they were up at the line of scrimmage, people were confused.

Speaker 75 Caleb, like, knew what was supposed to happen, but he could only, like, point and grab people so much until the clock was expiring.

Speaker 75 It looked a little bit out of sorts, but the good news is this is the Texans. The Texans are very good, and it's not as bad as some of the Bears' primetime games have been in recent history.

Speaker 39 It was pretty bad.

Speaker 136 That second half was really tough to watch.

Speaker 100 I kind of understand why memes cried.

Speaker 79 I'm going to cry.

Speaker 91 Can you guys just make me a promise to just don't call him a bust until I say he's a bust?

Speaker 150 I don't think he's a bust.

Speaker 81 I don't think he's a bust.

Speaker 9 It's only week two. It's only week two.
That's the only thing you have to say. Thank you.

Speaker 33 It's week two. We're one and one.

Speaker 79 We're one and one.

Speaker 47 I think you're like,

Speaker 47 he looked bad. But like, it's only week two and he's a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 79 I'm smiling, Hank.

Speaker 10 It's doing

Speaker 10 the truth.

Speaker 79 True.

Speaker 47 Like, people are listening, and they just watch that game. Like, Caleb Williams did not look good, but it's week two

Speaker 10 of his career.

Speaker 53 In the second half.

Speaker 47 But, like, he didn't look like a fucking superstar. He's averaging a half of a touchdown.
The offense is averaging a half of a touchdown per game right now.

Speaker 47 That's not good. But it's only week two.
That's the only thing that you got to say. It's only week two.

Speaker 67 It's only week two.

Speaker 47 You can't judge an entire guy by two weeks.

Speaker 9 Can't judge him.

Speaker 47 He's looked bad.

Speaker 17 For the second half.

Speaker 10 And the whole first half.

Speaker 47 No, no,

Speaker 47 bad.

Speaker 9 He looked bad.

Speaker 75 Max, he was good in the first half.

Speaker 47 What defines good?

Speaker 90 Compared to the Titans game.

Speaker 47 Yeah, they scored one touchdown in the first half.

Speaker 75 But he looked good in the first half. But you see,

Speaker 47 you guys have a wrong definition of good right now.

Speaker 74 But it was compared to last week.

Speaker 92 But like that.

Speaker 82 How are his handoffs, Max? Yeah, see, this is.

Speaker 10 Fuck about his handoffs.

Speaker 90 I don't care about his handoffs. I want him to throw the ball.

Speaker 157 I also want him to have time to throw the ball.

Speaker 47 Correct. And that is an issue for sure.

Speaker 88 But

Speaker 47 let's just not sugarcoat it.

Speaker 82 That's why I don't care if Drake

Speaker 82 is a good one.

Speaker 10 No,

Speaker 47 he looked very bad in the second half. He looked fine in the first half.
He didn't look good in the first half.

Speaker 47 He didn't have a touchdown.

Speaker 88 You can't say that a guy

Speaker 47 won in a whole half of football. That's not like a good half of offensive football.

Speaker 47 So we're looking to have 14 points as an offense?

Speaker 75 Max is very upset because we hold Jalen Hurts to quite a different standard on the show than no, it's just that we hold all quarterbacks to a different standard.

Speaker 47 But I understand it's a rookie, but like he didn't call a spade a spade.

Speaker 157 I agree.

Speaker 115 I was judging his first half based on the Titans game.

Speaker 47 But like that's not what you want to do. I understand

Speaker 9 baby steps.

Speaker 104 So I was basically saying compared to the Titans game, he looks like the greatest quarterback ever.

Speaker 40 Then in the second half, he looked almost worse than the Titans game.

Speaker 81 So we've gone backwards.

Speaker 126 I admit that. Week two, two weeks.

Speaker 141 I'm not going to sugarcoat it.

Speaker 47 And the Colts' defense stinks.

Speaker 96 I am not sugarcoated at all being like, Killed looks awesome.

Speaker 115 I just thought the first half he looked.

Speaker 47 Well, PFT tried to say that the sixth most concerning thing. Yeah.

Speaker 75 It's the first. No.

Speaker 47 Like, the Bears

Speaker 10 always will be.

Speaker 10 Max. No.
Okay. Okay, here.
Yes. Max, I'll give you my topic.

Speaker 75 What are you most scared about?

Speaker 167 I'll give you my topic.

Speaker 12 Offensive line.

Speaker 75 My top future of the Bears.

Speaker 10 What are you most scared of? Offensive learning.

Speaker 9 Offensive line.

Speaker 88 You can fix offensive line very quickly.

Speaker 75 Six maximums.

Speaker 69 Fixing a quarterback, not easy.

Speaker 49 Coaching?

Speaker 9 Hold on.

Speaker 47 Coaching, yes.

Speaker 83 But you all talk at the same time.

Speaker 6 Mean his brain is going crazy.

Speaker 33 Offensive line is my first concern right now because it directly impacts Caleb Williams' growth and health.

Speaker 10 That's why. That's fair, fair.

Speaker 88 But that's why.

Speaker 47 The quarterback is the most important thing always.

Speaker 69 I just don't know who would have played well behind that line tonight.

Speaker 88 That's fair.

Speaker 10 I don't.

Speaker 45 And I'm not saying that he's looked good because he's not.

Speaker 137 In week one, I didn't think the

Speaker 27 offensive line looked bad, but it didn't look as bad as it did tonight.

Speaker 36 And I said Kale played really bad.

Speaker 67 Tonight, there were times where I was like, this looks a little bit more comfortable, and then it just all went to shit.

Speaker 76 So, yeah, I'm in a fucking world of hurt.

Speaker 127 All my worst fears, it's all happened faster than I ever expected.

Speaker 83 And

Speaker 1 it just sucks. Everyone's just,

Speaker 114 I think I tweeted this fucking sucks, and maybe

Speaker 164 three minutes later, I had 550 replies, and they were all nasty.

Speaker 9 Very nasty. Very nasty.

Speaker 75 It is funny because it's like the bus meme where Big Cat's one and one. He's on the sad side of the bus.
I'm one and one. I'm on the happy side of the bus.
Yeah.

Speaker 75 It's just about, it's about the fact that it was a prime time game.

Speaker 10 I hate prime time games.

Speaker 75 Yeah, primetime games are mean. They're very mean to do to, especially a rookie quarterback, especially a team that has lost a lot of Sunday night football games.

Speaker 138 Eight in a row.

Speaker 75 It's very mean. And I didn't like the Bears' uniforms.

Speaker 22 I hate the fucking uniform. I did

Speaker 75 like the Traffic Cone helmets.

Speaker 27 The best way I could describe the Bears' orange uniforms when they wear them is like it looks like a seven-year-old's playing Madden. They're like, let me just do this combo of cool uniforms.

Speaker 75 It's bright. I like bright colors.

Speaker 2 They're just the Bears have a great uniform.

Speaker 5 Why fuck with it?

Speaker 115 But yeah, everything's bad.

Speaker 1 Everything sucks.

Speaker 97 Kill does not look good pretty much at all.

Speaker 37 Offensive line is terrible.

Speaker 121 Defense is great.

Speaker 22 So it's Bears football.

Speaker 51 We're back in the same spot.

Speaker 142 First half was okay.

Speaker 145 We really needed that.

Speaker 8 We really needed that punt block.

Speaker 1 Needed a punt block.

Speaker 114 Need Devin Hessler to come out of retirement.

Speaker 8 And then we might be cooking.

Speaker 75 Maybe Keenan Allen plays next week.

Speaker 157 Keenan Allen would be nice.

Speaker 75 Did you see how many chains? He had like a lot of chains. People are saying that Keenan Allen is overweight.
I think he just might weigh in wearing all his jewelry. Yeah.

Speaker 75 I think that adds like 15 pounds.

Speaker 75 Fuck, man.

Speaker 154 This fucking sucks.

Speaker 80 It happens so fast. It'll be okay.

Speaker 23 It's two weeks in the season.

Speaker 100 I told you this weekend was going to be shitty.

Speaker 135 Bookends.

Speaker 64 I had bookends of shit.

Speaker 27 This is a dumb sport to even be a fan of.

Speaker 126 I just want to talk about football and hang out with Jim Harbaugh.

Speaker 138 I don't want to root for anything.

Speaker 143 Now,

Speaker 154 I liked it when memes.

Speaker 154 I should do the memes thing and just delete everything.

Speaker 23 That sounds better.

Speaker 156 And I also don't like when Max is like sitting in like he's kind of talking down to us a little bit, which he has every right to do.

Speaker 136 Very much tell me.

Speaker 34 Hank always talks down to us, but we expect it.

Speaker 75 Max is like trying to snap us into reality. Yeah.

Speaker 9 And it hurts.

Speaker 82 You guys are trying to get to a winning place.

Speaker 82 You're sounding like losers.

Speaker 6 This is the hard part, PFT, where they can just do this to us.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And I know you're feeling a lot better, which I understand.

Speaker 131 Shaden Dales.

Speaker 83 Those handoffs. Yeah.

Speaker 10 No, but

Speaker 79 Hank, Hank,

Speaker 75 don't patronize me. Shaden Dale's has looked better.

Speaker 82 You patronized him.

Speaker 75 No, Hank, it was one handoff. It wasn't all his handoffs.
And you haven't even seen it, so you're talking out of your absence.

Speaker 47 It's impossible to find.

Speaker 88 Literally impossible to find.

Speaker 22 Have any of the first-round quarterbacks thrown a touchdown pass?

Speaker 47 I think Bo Nix may have thrown one last week.

Speaker 88 Did he? Did he?

Speaker 47 I think he threw one late.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 159 Because this would make me feel a little bit better where it's like, dude, maybe it's just really hard right now for rookies to come into the nfl uh no he did not throw all right so no no rookie quarterback has thrown a touchdown yet wow

Speaker 81 well that's good

Speaker 75 i think no that's i think that's good we should see if they do

Speaker 162 what what are you shaking your head about max no yeah i was i was i thought that he did but i was shaking my head i wonder oh he ran one that's what i'm thinking of oh he ran one i wonder if uh draft kings can do a bet next week because oh no you play a minute monday night yeah i was gonna say it would have been great if we did a race the first touchdown yeah I feel like, but you get juicy odds on Jaden.

Speaker 76 I don't know. Caleb might never throw a touchdown.

Speaker 67 I honestly think that at this point, it feels like there's a force field and we're never going to get there.

Speaker 37 Chris Collinsworth even said it where he's like, they haven't really run any plays in the red zone, so they don't know what to do.

Speaker 75 I think it'll happen. It's hard not to overreact to it because he did get his ass kicked tonight.
He got his ass kicked.

Speaker 47 You got some good defenses, like some exploitable defenses coming up.

Speaker 83 Yeah, and also,

Speaker 33 the Bears' defense is very good.

Speaker 5 It's going to to keep, I mean, the Bears got the ball back with a chance to win the game with a minute and a half left.

Speaker 129 Their defense is awesome.

Speaker 160 What are you laughing about, memes?

Speaker 144 You're fine. I'm looking at the schedule.
You got a couple Colts, Rams, Panthers, Jaguars.

Speaker 75 He'll be fine.

Speaker 101 He just got to find it. Cardinals.

Speaker 76 Yeah, the Texans are good. They're probably going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 135 All right.

Speaker 69 Max, let's talk Monday night.

Speaker 69 How are you feeling?

Speaker 25 Would be a shame if you guys lost after you've been belittling us.

Speaker 47 I wasn't belittling. I just wanted to have an honest conversation.
And I think it was good. I think it was constructive.

Speaker 12 Did we not have an honest conversation?

Speaker 27 You said that he was bad.

Speaker 47 No, we did. I think we had a good conversation.
That's all I wanted to do.

Speaker 39 And in relation to last week, there were moments where he looked good because he was so bad.

Speaker 47 Yeah, you just got to hang on to those plays that were like, oh, that's a good play.

Speaker 15 That's a good throw.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 47 You'll go back and watch the highlights, and you'll just look at those plays where it's like, this is a really good throw. Someone will make

Speaker 47 alt-22 breakdown of the good plays that Caleb Williams did, and then

Speaker 47 that's what you will think of going. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 47 There'll be a Bears guy who like goes and I know that.

Speaker 76 Someone make that for me, please.

Speaker 47 Someone did that for Jalen Hurts last week. Okay.

Speaker 76 So that's why I was going to do that. Someone, please make that for me.

Speaker 47 The picks weren't his fault.

Speaker 111 All good ones.

Speaker 61 Please make that for me.

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Speaker 106 Are you nervous about this game?

Speaker 47 I'm nervous about every game.

Speaker 76 Are you going to the game?

Speaker 9 I am going to the

Speaker 18 hopefully I'm going to the game. But are you nervous or like I said, scared?

Speaker 9 You asked me before the Sunday night football.

Speaker 53 That's definitely nice.

Speaker 71 I was nervous. I said scared.

Speaker 47 I think we're six-point favorites right now. Yeah.
Okay. So I'm definitely not scared.
We should win the game, but we look sloppy.

Speaker 47 We won week one against the Packers, but it was a weird game. The field was shit.

Speaker 47 It was a sloppy win. I would love.
If we finished tomorrow winning by like 20 points, that would be great.

Speaker 75 I have a prediction.

Speaker 75 I think defense is going to eat.

Speaker 75 I think you guys are going to get after Kirk. Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 9 That'd be great. I would love that.

Speaker 75 Yeah, he didn't look like he could really move around. I got deep into some Falcons film breakdown Twitter last week.

Speaker 75 Apparently, they're having Kirk Cousins stand with his right foot back when he gets snaps, and the entire rest of his career he's going left foot back.

Speaker 75 So he might be uncomfortable, might not be fully healed. I feel like your

Speaker 75 defensive line is going to tee off on him.

Speaker 88 I would love that.

Speaker 10 I would love that.

Speaker 132 I think you guys are going to win.

Speaker 156 I think he's going to win by

Speaker 156 a D.

Speaker 76 Do you know what jerseys you're wearing?

Speaker 47 I do not.

Speaker 164 That's kind of significant.

Speaker 20 That would be important. Because if you're wearing, you're not wearing Kelly Green, right?

Speaker 47 No, that would be everywhere. That would be significant.

Speaker 9 Hopefully they're wearing black. I would like black.

Speaker 103 Okay, so, yeah.

Speaker 8 Good luck. You're going to the game.

Speaker 137 Are you tailgating?

Speaker 47 Kind of. Yeah, kind of, yes.

Speaker 114 Are people going to be...

Speaker 17 I mean, you're the king of Philly.

Speaker 76 You're going to get... People are going to be like, Max, Max, Max.

Speaker 47 I can't find my flight info right now.

Speaker 49 Oh, no.

Speaker 9 That's kind of stressful.

Speaker 75 Is that where you said you might be going?

Speaker 139 Yeah.

Speaker 139 What do you mean?

Speaker 160 You can't find your flight info.

Speaker 47 It was booked for me, and there's no confirmation.

Speaker 47 It'll be fine. It'll be fine.

Speaker 1 Okay, find your flight, and then you're going to the game.

Speaker 47 Yeah, yeah. No, I got to figure that out.
Be a real show. Also, an early flight.

Speaker 10 Hank.

Speaker 88 Hank is such a fucking

Speaker 17 bullshit about Hank, though, is that he's so removed where it's like,

Speaker 29 I lose a game.

Speaker 16 Memes loses a game.

Speaker 18 Max, if you lose Monday night, it's like ruined your week.

Speaker 47 Oh, that would be. Yeah.

Speaker 76 Hank, it doesn't matter to him.

Speaker 47 That'll be a sad feel.

Speaker 9 He's great.

Speaker 3 He can just fucking just sit up in his tower and just count the banners.

Speaker 76 Oh, Dylan Rayleigh is cool and count the banners and just fucking chirp at us.

Speaker 75 Because Hank has the reassurance of the universe that eventually things will swing back in his favor. We don't have that same luxury.
No.

Speaker 75 We have to trick ourselves into thinking that it's happening right now for us all the time.

Speaker 47 And he just won an NBA final.

Speaker 9 We have the reverse.

Speaker 47 That's the worst part is that he just won his number one championship. Yeah.

Speaker 96 You know what I mean?

Speaker 75 Here's the harsh reality that me and Big Big Cat have to live with.

Speaker 81 Okay.

Speaker 75 When you have a quarterback, when he releases a pass,

Speaker 75 we feel an impending sense of doom every single time.

Speaker 75 I yearn to have a quarterback that when the ball comes off their hands, I get excited and I'm like, something good is going to happen to me.

Speaker 75 But until I get enough of that positive reinforcement for the rest of my life, I will just be thinking something bad is about to happen every time we attempt a pass. I don't prove it otherwise.

Speaker 40 I don't remember the last time I watched a quarterback for one of my teams drop back in a clean pocket, like perfect five-step drop, step up,

Speaker 163 like 30-yard dime down the middle of the field.

Speaker 34 The guy's wide open.

Speaker 138 Yeah.

Speaker 18 I don't even know what that looks like.

Speaker 82 And I do mean earnestly, like, I want for you guys what I've been able to experience.

Speaker 92 But we are the reverse where.

Speaker 82 You can't sit here as you guys try and justify these terrible games and be like, oh, everything's great. Like, you also have to to be

Speaker 9 realistic?

Speaker 48 I never said everything.

Speaker 6 Show me where I said everything's great. Never said everything's great.

Speaker 82 I'll take nine Super Bowls, you take three.

Speaker 142 Well, that was exciting.

Speaker 18 We have the exact reverse where he knows that everything will work out for him. We know no matter what happens, we'll just end up back in square one.

Speaker 156 I'm literally at square one where the Bears' defense is elite and everything else sucks.

Speaker 10 Square one.

Speaker 75 It's just nice to be able to not really care.

Speaker 47 I was saying this earlier. Right now, it's gross,

Speaker 47 but things are turning out very similar.

Speaker 10 Everything.

Speaker 47 The Patriots look kind of good. The Bears and Commanders both look pretty bad.
The Eagles

Speaker 88 look good, but

Speaker 47 not good at the same time.

Speaker 9 The Jets are the Jets.

Speaker 148 The Jets are the Jets.

Speaker 75 The Jets are pretty hard. What the fuck?

Speaker 9 I mean, that is the truth, memes. The Jets are the Jets.
They're the best.

Speaker 75 The only big winner is Shane.

Speaker 55 Shane owns the podcast. Shane's a Chargers fan.

Speaker 38 He owns a podcast.

Speaker 40 And it's because he's got Harbaugh. Yeah.

Speaker 76 All right.

Speaker 60 Let's finish up the show. We got Who's Back of the Week.

Speaker 130 PFT, you're going to do a quick ad before we go to Who's Back of the Week.

Speaker 158 Man, I'll tell you what. When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 158 That's where Snickers comes in, man. That thing is packed.
Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk chocolate. It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 158 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger.

Speaker 169 Remember this.

Speaker 158 Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else. Snickers satisfies, man.
That's a winning play.

Speaker 60 Okay, Hank, who's back of the week?

Speaker 18 Late on us.

Speaker 82 Who's back of the week is the sphere. Yes.
Yes. UF at the sphere.

Speaker 59 Hey now.

Speaker 82 UFC at the sphere.

Speaker 82 I feel like that's going to be the future of UFC.

Speaker 75 I think it should be the future of all sports. Yeah.

Speaker 75 Basketball game at the sphere. That's where the NBA Cup, the finals, should be held in the sphere.

Speaker 60 It looks so sick.

Speaker 160 Every time I see the sphere, I'm like, why do I not just live there?

Speaker 25 Why don't I just figure out a way to get a job at the sphere?

Speaker 82 I don't think you could do basketball, but that would be insane. Why not?

Speaker 155 Yeah, why not? It's definitely not.

Speaker 82 Would it distract the players? I guess maybe not.

Speaker 148 I don't know.

Speaker 81 Honestly, who cares?

Speaker 66 No, you could probably black out the sphere.

Speaker 82 It's like the one-on-one aspect of fighting. It's like, yeah,

Speaker 82 you have to f focus on the guy in front of you because he's literally trying to choke you out.

Speaker 97 Basketball,

Speaker 82 you're moving, you're looking around, there's like a little more moving pieces, but it would be unbelievable.

Speaker 75 Yeah, it'd be great. You could do the first half and have the sphere light up like it was one team's home arena, and then second half, have it be the other team's.

Speaker 82 I'll watch any event that they have there.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 75 How big is it? Could they do a football game in there?

Speaker 82 You've been. I haven't.

Speaker 136 No.

Speaker 75 No football in the sphere? Probably not. We've got to build a bigger sphere.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 161 We do need a bigger sphere.

Speaker 100 It looked awesome.

Speaker 53 Were the fights good?

Speaker 159 I missed it.

Speaker 82 Shoshan lost.

Speaker 148 Oh.

Speaker 75 There was maybe one of the gnarliest cuts I've ever seen.

Speaker 9 You see that? Oh, I saw that. Yeah.

Speaker 75 Forehead was split open.

Speaker 93 I saw that.

Speaker 77 Also, shout out our guy, Robbie Fox.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 49 Broke news on Friday night.

Speaker 160 Did you see that, Hank? I did.

Speaker 129 Okay.

Speaker 161 He broke news that Michael Chandler is going to fight in a fight before he potentially fights Conor McGregor.

Speaker 57 So it's going to be Michael Chandler, Conor McGregor.

Speaker 161 Michael Chandler's sick of waiting for Conor McGregor.

Speaker 82 Well, I think they're UFC. Michael Chandler are a good friend.
McGregor.

Speaker 131 What?

Speaker 82 They're like holding him out.

Speaker 131 Why?

Speaker 82 Because he has two fights left on his deal, and then once his deal is done, then he can obviously make another deal. So UFC is delaying him, so he can't do that.

Speaker 26 Do you think it might also be that Conor McGregor really likes to party?

Speaker 80 Yes.

Speaker 131 Probably

Speaker 82 somewhere in the middle.

Speaker 162 I don't know how that guy keeps going on camera zooted out of his mind.

Speaker 100 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Allegedly.

Speaker 116 But

Speaker 76 just

Speaker 75 stop going live, Connor.

Speaker 155 Be so paranoid to just be on, he's just on TV on the moon.

Speaker 75 You know, it was great breaking news about Robbie. He also got, Dana gave him 20 grand for his wedding.
Yeah. That was

Speaker 75 the chance.

Speaker 83 Robbie won it.

Speaker 9 Tunnel of Chaos. Yeah, Tunnel of Chaos.

Speaker 12 Tunnel of Chaos happens. Yeah.

Speaker 83 Tunnel of Chaos.

Speaker 76 I want to go back to the Tunnel of Chaos.

Speaker 9 Maybe me too.

Speaker 2 The bears don't lose in the tunnel of chaos.

Speaker 75 At the sphere, they could definitely set up like 10 TVs, right? You could watch 10 NFL football games at the same time in the sphere on a Sunday. Yeah.

Speaker 59 They should do that. They should do that.

Speaker 154 That would be sick.

Speaker 103 All right, PFT, your who's back.

Speaker 75 My who's back of the week is bands getting into fights on stage. Yeah.

Speaker 75 Jane's Addiction got into a little fracas. I think that was Friday night.
Yep.

Speaker 75 Perry Farrell went after Dave Navarro as the song ended. Threw maybe the wimpiest, least

Speaker 75 intimidating punch of all time when he punched him off. I guess they've kind of been like biting at each other's heels for a while.
Perry Farrell's been a dick on stage a few times.

Speaker 75 I didn't actually know that Jane's Addiction was still a band. Yeah, I didn't even know.
I just thought that Dave Navarro, his full-time job, was just being cool with tattoos on TV. Yeah.

Speaker 75 I thought that's what he got paid for.

Speaker 156 And also being married to Carmen Lecture.

Speaker 164 Are they still married? No, for like a year.

Speaker 138 Yeah.

Speaker 75 That was awesome.

Speaker 125 She was, she, she was 1-1 for a little bit.

Speaker 85 Yes.

Speaker 75 Long time. She was great.

Speaker 82 For me.

Speaker 45 Well, it was like her and Pam were like Sosa Maguire.

Speaker 138 So I liked Pam. But yeah.

Speaker 10 Both,

Speaker 10 yeah.

Speaker 75 Both really good.

Speaker 53 Starskin Hutch, elite.

Speaker 135 Yeah.

Speaker 138 Sneaky. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 75 But yeah, they got into a fight, and it looks like the band's breaking up now. Damn.
So maybe they took the bullet for Oasis. Maybe Oasis is going to be just fine.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 82 I think you and Ron got to do that this weekend.

Speaker 75 That's a good point.

Speaker 75 I should try to fight Ron on stage in Austin. Go viral.
Yeah, that would be awesome. We are playing in Austin on Friday night, free show, West 6th Street.
Hell yes. Come out, check it out, Pup Punk.

Speaker 75 Excited to be back in Austin. I'm going to eat so many breakfast tacos.

Speaker 138 Love that.

Speaker 76 Put it on your Mount Rushman.

Speaker 75 Drink a couple margaritas.

Speaker 45 All right, My Who's back?

Speaker 160 We talked about it earlier, but I got to pick a pinky team.

Speaker 136 So let's do it.

Speaker 82 I think. Right now? Yeah.
I thought I'm going to wait till Wednesday.

Speaker 69 No, we got to do it right now.

Speaker 28 We have 0-2 teams.

Speaker 76 The Falcons weren't.

Speaker 126 Were the Falcons... Could the Falcons be in there?

Speaker 103 They could.

Speaker 138 No. Yeah.

Speaker 87 If you're doing it right now, they're going to be able to do it.

Speaker 75 No, but if the Falcons lose Monday night, then the Falcons are 0-2 teams. I'm going to lose Monday night.

Speaker 23 All right, so I think...

Speaker 9 Don't say that.

Speaker 83 What I'm going to do

Speaker 45 is I'm going to ⁇ for the first time ever, I'm going to put three teams in a hat, and I'll just pick them out.

Speaker 103 Is that fair? Yeah.

Speaker 10 Lottery ball?

Speaker 63 Oh, lottery ball.

Speaker 6 Okay, we do lottery ball.

Speaker 28 I am not going to pick the Cincinnati Bengals, I believe, in Joe Burrow.

Speaker 156 That would be disrespectful to Joe Burrow.

Speaker 26 I think the three teams are the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 25 Again, by the way, I just wanted to clear, it's going to be from

Speaker 10 the,

Speaker 50 like, right here up, the tip of my pinky.

Speaker 75 So, are you going to go to the joint?

Speaker 81 No.

Speaker 81 Where's the joint?

Speaker 45 Here? No, it's going to be like half of my nail.

Speaker 75 Got it.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 75 But also the flesh.

Speaker 15 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 92 Yeah.

Speaker 111 I still don't really know.

Speaker 29 Yeah, wherever the bone, I don't, I still don't know you legally can do this.

Speaker 75 Are you going to take off bone?

Speaker 111 I'm going to not take off bone.

Speaker 21 Where's the bone start?

Speaker 47 I don't think that's possible.

Speaker 9 I think you would have to take off bone.

Speaker 111 I'm going to take off some bone.

Speaker 75 Because if you take off just, does that regenerate?

Speaker 9 I don't know.

Speaker 47 I don't like talking about this like makes it.

Speaker 82 I think you just go full line.

Speaker 148 Full line.

Speaker 9 No, Hank. I'm not going.

Speaker 47 No, don't. You can't go full line.
It's a pinky bed.

Speaker 9 The nail would fucking hurt.

Speaker 145 The nail would hurt. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 34 Well, I'll consult a doctor, but it's not.

Speaker 45 I have the right to go half-nail up.

Speaker 39 If a doctor's like, hey, man, just go to the line or just take the whole thing.

Speaker 161 I'll just do that.

Speaker 131 Either way,

Speaker 36 every year I pick a pinky team.

Speaker 142 They're not going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 This team is not going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 18 I believe they're not going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 47 Don't do the Ravens. Don't do the Ravens.

Speaker 9 Why?

Speaker 142 The Ravens could win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 10 I don't know if they can.

Speaker 75 Their offensive line is bad. What are the other two teams?

Speaker 1 Well, I was going to do Ravens, Falcons, and Rams.

Speaker 9 What?

Speaker 82 Rams and Ravens would be scary.

Speaker 47 You think so? No,

Speaker 47 Ravens is scary.

Speaker 75 I mean, the Rams.

Speaker 9 You're an ass kick today.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 158 All right.

Speaker 32 I should just pick the team that I think is not going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 47 Yes. I don't know why you're like.

Speaker 96 You're right.

Speaker 66 Because, well, PFT got in my head.

Speaker 53 This is like amputating PFB.

Speaker 77 I know. I know.

Speaker 2 The whole point of this was that it's a team I confidently think will never win the Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 75 The reason I told him you won't when it came to the Ravens is because the Ravens definitely have a chance to win the Super Bowl. Correct.

Speaker 77 And I was just saying,

Speaker 97 I don't want this to happen. I know.

Speaker 1 It's getting reversed in everyone's head where they want me to play

Speaker 37 and definitely win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 It's like, no, the whole point of it was that it started with the Texans that one year where I was like, the Texans aren't winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 134 I'll cut off the tip of my pinky if they do.

Speaker 114 Then they went on this crazy run and got to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 But I still was right and I still believed in it.

Speaker 53 Okay, so I think I know Big Cat pretty well.

Speaker 75 I'm translating his brain. He does think that the Ravens could win the Super Bowl.
Correct.

Speaker 27 So it would actually be against what this pick is.

Speaker 75 He does not think that the Rams could win.

Speaker 115 I do not think the Rams could win.

Speaker 75 You're very sure that the Ravens.

Speaker 37 I guarantee the Falcons don't win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 9 Just pick the Rams.

Speaker 75 Rams or Falcons.

Speaker 21 But the Falcons are not 2-0.

Speaker 9 They're not 0-2 yet.

Speaker 10 Yeah, they are. No, they're not.

Speaker 52 Yeah, they're 0-2.

Speaker 75 You guys got this, Max. I hate this.

Speaker 95 All right.

Speaker 91 Final say. I'm going to take the Falcons.

Speaker 8 If the Falcons somehow win this game on Monday night, I have to also have the Rams.

Speaker 149 That's fair.

Speaker 9 So So you'll have two. I'll have two.

Speaker 77 I'll have two.

Speaker 47 So you're big on

Speaker 15 your Eagles fan tomorrow.

Speaker 29 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 The Falcons are not winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 111 Yeah. Like, they're not.

Speaker 142 They're the Falcons. You guys agree?

Speaker 75 Well, just because of the fact that they're the Falcons, they could have, you could switch their uniforms with the Chiefs, and you'd be like, well, no, they're not winning the Super Bowl because they're the Falcons.

Speaker 75 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Let me look at the Rams schedule real quick.

Speaker 82 I could never see the Falcons winning a Super Bowl.

Speaker 75 Well, you could see them winning a Super Bowl during the Super Bowl. No.
Like in the process of winning it. When you're up 28-3, is one team winning?

Speaker 49 Winning in the Super Bowl. The

Speaker 75 Falcons were they, at one point, were winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 100 This is really stupid that I do this anyway because, like, eventually I'm going to have to do this.

Speaker 160 Yeah, Falcons are not winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 147 Guaranteed.

Speaker 83 Falcons are not winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 I believe it.

Speaker 8 End the season.

Speaker 75 But if they win on Monday night, then it's the same.

Speaker 128 And then I have to take the Rams. Yep.

Speaker 162 Tip of the pinky.

Speaker 127 Anything else? Do you have a who's back, Max?

Speaker 10 Oh,

Speaker 33 I do want to say who's back of the week.

Speaker 23 I'm so, so, so excited for playoff baseball.

Speaker 9 Yeah, it's not back yet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I can feel your anxiety, and I'm excited to.

Speaker 47 Nothing makes me more anxious than playoff baseball.

Speaker 15 I know. Nothing.

Speaker 131 Because it's the most...

Speaker 2 I mean, playoff hockey, yes.

Speaker 115 But playoff baseball, I think, is just a different beast that playoff hockey, things happen so so fast that you can't even register it.

Speaker 6 Playoff baseball, you just sit there and you're like,

Speaker 131 well, here we go. Like, another pitch.

Speaker 34 You just have so much downtime to, like, let it all walk.

Speaker 47 Every pitch feels like 20 minutes.

Speaker 154 Should we all bet on the Phillies with him?

Speaker 75 I bet on the Padres, but I can also sprinkle on the Phillies.

Speaker 55 I'm going to bet on the Phillies with you.

Speaker 60 Why can't I do that?

Speaker 88 Sure.

Speaker 47 I mean, Dave's already on the Phillies, so it doesn't matter at this point.

Speaker 100 Yeah.

Speaker 70 All right, maybe I'll just watch.

Speaker 160 I'll just bet him game to game.

Speaker 82 I'm on the pods as well. You are? Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 4 So what's the number?

Speaker 82 Well, I had that. It's the first time winner from like.

Speaker 9 Oh, I forgot about that.

Speaker 82 I put it in forever ago, but.

Speaker 145 Remember he did that bet?

Speaker 9 The team to win the World Series for the first time?

Speaker 82 Are the Brewers in the playoffs?

Speaker 10 Yes.

Speaker 82 So Brewers, pods.

Speaker 75 Did the Brewers just clinch?

Speaker 55 They might have. The Cubs just kept on losing games.

Speaker 82 Because Rockies, Mariners, and Rays are not in it. Correct.
So Brewers or pods.

Speaker 75 Yeah. What were the odds on that one?

Speaker 82 Plus 900.

Speaker 43 All right. Good luck.
It's pretty good.

Speaker 26 That's going to be great.

Speaker 62 That's going to be fun.

Speaker 32 Shane, congrats on 2-0.

Speaker 159 You're the king of the podcast.

Speaker 75 Well, also, Max. Max is 2-0.
Yeah, Max is 2-0.

Speaker 62 I have the film with them.

Speaker 143 Stop it.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 23 Good show, boys.

Speaker 5 We'll talk college football on Wednesday.

Speaker 40 Numbers.

Speaker 88 9, 3, 8, 20.

Speaker 47 Did you not pick a number yet? Wait, what number did you pick, Big Ad?

Speaker 10 I haven't. Oh.

Speaker 166 Three.

Speaker 115 Fifty-six.

Speaker 47 I don't understand why you keep doing the number thing with me.

Speaker 9 I already I already won.

Speaker 83 Yeah, I don't either. I don't know why I'm doing it either.

Speaker 55 I have no idea how to send you.

Speaker 76 Congrats on the win, Pug.

Speaker 47 There's a number. There's a ball up there.

Speaker 76 There's a ball up there.

Speaker 116 What, uh, what what what what what number would that have been?

Speaker 9 It would have been

Speaker 130 eighty-three.

Speaker 143 Congrats on what win for Pug?

Speaker 81 Eagles. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 75 You guys are jerks.

Speaker 37 It comes from a place of pain.

Speaker 88 You get that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 17 Like, it's pain.

Speaker 18 All right, numbers. Say it again.

Speaker 82 29.

Speaker 3 56.

Speaker 3 97 per.

Speaker 9 20? Yep, bang. Damn it.

Speaker 47 Like, it does. It really, at this point,

Speaker 47 I don't really know what to do. I love you guys.
Because I'm just a winner. Love you guys.
I'm just a winner.

Speaker 47 I'm specifically just a winner. Love you guys.

Speaker 49 All right. Congrats, Max.

Speaker 47 Yep.

Speaker 91 Congratulations, Maxwell.