Matthew Stafford, Steph Curry Saves America, Getting Excited About Preseason Football + Mt Rushmore of Steroid Users (Alleged)

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Super Bowl-winning quarterback, future Hall of Famer Hank. Please stop doing what you're doing.
Matthew Stafford on the show. He's so loopy right now.

Speaker 1 He was just, he was mouthing.

Speaker 4 Hank might just be loopy.

Speaker 1 He was mouthing what I was saying back to me.

Speaker 4 He's doing part of my take, karaoke. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Matthew Stafford on the show. Great interview.
We have a violently hungover Hank. No.
Should be interesting.

Speaker 1 We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of steroid users, alleged, just so that we don't get any legal problems.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but just Mount Rushmore of steroids.

Speaker 1 Yes, Mount Rushmore of Steroid Users. We're gonna talk some Olympics.
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Speaker 1 And I know we want to talk about football, but we also have to talk about the Olympics and our team being so awesome and that game being incredible.

Speaker 4 But for the record, I want to talk about football.

Speaker 4 But yeah, let's lead it off with the.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about it.

Speaker 1 Should we lead it off with the fact that we both have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks? No, let's temper our excitement for a second, which we will get to that.

Speaker 1 And I said the two of us because there was only one guy who seemingly didn't play great.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 I would say all three of us have future all-Fame quarterbacks if you include Joe Milton.

Speaker 1 That's true. But we should talk about the Olympics in that USA game because it was fucking awesome.
Steph Curry is the man. He saved America.

Speaker 1 That was one of the most fun times I've had watching basketball. And Steph Curry comes in and he was lights out for the last two games.
He was 17 for 26 from 360 points in the last two games.

Speaker 1 And those, it was a three-point game with 258 left. And Steph was like fuck it I'm just gonna hit every shot and he hit four threes and it was I I Yelped on that last one.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 people were screaming. Yeah, it was it was insane and uh if you listen to the French broadcast of it I don't know if you've had a chance to go back and I always love to do that

Speaker 4 in college football season where you hear like the home announcing team like narrate a heartbreaking loss. The French guys were just like, this is impossible.
What's happening?

Speaker 4 They kept calling him the devil curry. Yes.
The devil curry just ended their dreams.

Speaker 4 And there were two shots that he put up that if it's anybody else on the planet, you're like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. At one point, he passed out of a double team to Kevin Durant.

Speaker 4 Kevin Durant was like relatively open as far as KD goes. And he just said, fuck it, I'm going to throw it back to Steph Curry because Steph can't miss right now.

Speaker 4 Shoots it over two guys, Kevin Durant and LeBron.

Speaker 1 He said it was a bad shot, too.

Speaker 4 Well, Kevin Durant and LeBron were wide open for the three. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And under no circumstance do you ever not give the ball to Kevin Durant or LeBron at the end of a game unless your name is Steph Curry.

Speaker 4 And somehow it went in, but it is just so much fucking fun to get to root for Steph Curry. I get it.
I understand why Warriors fans have been complete pricks to everybody else for the last 10 years.

Speaker 4 I get it. I understand it.
Steph Curry,

Speaker 4 if I got to root for Steph Curry every day, I would develop the same superiority complex that Hank Lockwood has had from rooting for Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 It was so good. And so incredible.
Steph Curry impressed himself. He said that.
He said afterwards, before every shot you take, you think it's going in.

Speaker 1 All I saw was, this is talking about the last shot. All I saw was the rim.
I didn't see who was in front of me. I knew it was kind of late clock situation, but that one impressed myself.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's how good he is. Steph Curry's so good that he impresses Steph Curry.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they were really good. And you know what I loved about these Olympics? The fact that the players cared.
Yeah. They cared very deeply.
Oh, dude. They cared.

Speaker 4 Like, if any one of them told you, like, oh, you know, I just want to go over there and have fun. Didn't matter if I played.
Didn't matter if they got me in the game.

Speaker 4 Didn't matter if I was in the rotation. They're lying.
They wanted wanted to be in there. They wanted to be playing.
They wanted to do this.

Speaker 4 I guess for the country, which is awesome to see because in Olympics past, some of the guys were just like, yeah, whatever. It's basically an exhibition.
We're going to crush the world.

Speaker 4 The days of just showing up and destroying the rest of the world are over. We have to actually put in work, put in practice, and play as a team if we want to win.

Speaker 4 So to get a gold in that way was it was awesome. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 They care, even their family cares. Yeah.
To the point of like complaining publicly. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
They care a lot.

Speaker 4 And they flew in Draymond. Yeah.
Which was

Speaker 1 the right move to do. Draymond flew in just to troll Gobert.

Speaker 1 He tweeted. He's like, what should I say? I'm sitting right behind him.
But it was, it also felt like the finale of an era in the NBA because it was KD, it was LeBron, it was Steph.

Speaker 1 Those were the three guys. Devin Booker was phenomenal, by the way.
Like he was the unsung hero. He completely changed his role to fit into this team and was so, so good.

Speaker 1 And like the three guys who have meant so much to basketball for the last two decades, finishing it this way, because all three of them are at the tail end of their career and maybe not going to win another NBA title.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 it was just awesome to watch. And LeBron was amazing, and KD was amazing, and Steph was just going off.

Speaker 1 Anthony Davis finished the game because I can't remember who our other center was, but it was good that Anthony Davis was in there.

Speaker 4 I think he had four blocks. The starting center, he had trouble defending against Wimby, who everybody else also has that problem defending against Wimby.
The starting center looked slow.

Speaker 4 He looked like he was a step late to every loose ball. He looked like he was out of shape a little bit.

Speaker 1 Who is our starting center?

Speaker 4 I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 Bam, right? Bam. No, no, it wasn't Bam.

Speaker 1 Who's our Joel Embiid? Oh, thank you,

Speaker 4 Joelle Embiid. Yeah.
I got the pleasure of watching this game with Max and his brothers, and it was just them screaming at the TV the entire time.

Speaker 1 Come on, Joe. What the fuck, Joe? I knew it was not going well for Embiid when Max tweeted halfway through the game.
He's like, Everyone's shitting on Joel. We wouldn't be here without him.
So, true.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 He wanted to go back in time to Serbia game.

Speaker 4 I also love the way that Joelle and Biede received his gold medal when the crowd was just booing the shit out of him because he chose to go with the U.S. instead of France.

Speaker 4 And he was just like, yeah, give it to me.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's a Philly guy. Yeah.
Do you think that bothers him? France cannot boo, out-boo Joel Embiid. Yeah, he had a quote going into it.

Speaker 1 He was like, yeah, France is probably going to boo me, and I'm just going to tell him to suck it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Also, very.
He hit him with the DS.

Speaker 1 There's one guy who can't, like, you can't boo, you can't boo Joel Mbi out of the building. He plays in Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 He also, uh, watching the, like, the clips of everyone post-game and then the next day, just how hungover they all were. Actually, we have someone who basically won the U.S.

Speaker 1 gold right here, Henry Lockwood. Looked like he parted with him, but Joel Mbi doesn't drink.
So he was like, like, just side-eyeing everyone walking to, I think they were getting to the airport. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it was just like everyone had glasses on, looked like shit. And Joel was just like, I'm ready to go.
Let's get on the flight.

Speaker 4 Maybe he needs to start drinking. Maybe that's the problem.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Get out of his own head.

Speaker 1 It was awesome. So and now there was two guys who maybe didn't play a lot.
Tyrese Halburton, who handled it in a very funny way,

Speaker 1 saying when you get an A and you did none of the work.

Speaker 1 That's kind of the way you have to handle it because

Speaker 1 you're still one of the best 12 players to be on that team. And you did contribute in the fact that, you know, there were scrimmages and all the weeks leading up to it.

Speaker 4 You got to take pride in that shit. You got to take pride.
no matter what level basketball player you're at, if you help the team, that's first and foremost.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 Hank. Yep.
How did we feel? I mean, Jason Tatum did get into the

Speaker 1 final. Felt like he got

Speaker 1 bullied minutes. Bullied? He got bullied? He got bullied minutes.
Kerb got bullied into putting him in the game. Interesting.
Would you not agree?

Speaker 1 I mean, his explanation for Serbia made no sense when he said it's a math problem. Well, there's eight less minutes.
Right, but you could still.

Speaker 4 That's a metric system? The math.

Speaker 1 That's what Steve Kerr was saying. But there's eight less minutes in the NBA game.
Listen, the resume, you know, no one really knows who does well or who does poorly in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 At the end of the day, when you look back at his career, he's going to have two gold medals at least. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, he said he would play in the 2020.

Speaker 1 I mean, I do feel bad for Jason Tatum because I'll say this in defense of Jason Tatum. He did not say one word.
No. His mom did.

Speaker 1 Fans did. He didn't, like, that's one of those situations where it gets put on him that he's upset.
And he probably was upset because everyone wants to play. But he wasn't upset.

Speaker 1 He wasn't being a malcontent. He wasn't saying anything.
Other people were saying things, and then it gets attributed to him. Right.

Speaker 4 Which is not fair. But if you watch the games, the lineup that did not have Jason Tatum in it was vastly superior.
Yeah. We were dominating with that lineup.
They were really.

Speaker 1 And we barely played. Our closing lineup was very good.
Yeah. Anthony Davis was phenomenal at the end.
And it was just fun. It was fun to watch.
Steph Curry's the fucking man. Yabu dunked on LeBron.

Speaker 1 That was great. Yabu did.
He might have dunked his way back in the league. And Skip obviously went straight to Twitter and was like, well, Steph Curry won the MVP, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 1 LeBron did win the MVP.

Speaker 1 And yeah, Skip was like, this is an indictment on LeBron's legacy.

Speaker 1 Just perfect spin zone.

Speaker 4 Daddy, won a fake MVP at the Olympics where they won gold?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and LeBron was, I mean, he got a triple-double against Serbia, and he was good in every game. Steph...
basically locked in for the last two games.

Speaker 4 He closed it out at the end of the last two games, and we wouldn't have had that comeback against Serbia without him.

Speaker 4 And we probably wouldn't have beaten France without him just catching fire at the very end. But if you look at what the numbers were, LeBron, he did not lead the team in points per game.

Speaker 4 Steph did, but it was like barely.

Speaker 1 He led the team in rebounds and assists.

Speaker 4 Rebounds and assists. Yeah.
And almost led the team in points per game. Like, you could give it to any one of those guys.
But I love the fact that Skip, he's going to find his angle. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Skip Bales, by the way, doesn't have a show to do his LeBron thing on. He's just doing this for the love of the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it would have been if Steph had gotten the MVP, it would have been the same video being like LeBron didn't get the MVP, and this was his team, his Olympics. Also, shout out Serbia.

Speaker 1 Probably the coolest dudes in the world. They won the bronze medal game, went straight to the bar, and then came back for the medal ceremony, and they were shithoused.
I love it.

Speaker 1 Like, Jokic looked like he was going to puke at one point because guys were like, kind of like grabbing him. And then also, there's a club, Jokic is already at the racetrack.

Speaker 4 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 Jokic probably spent his entire Olympics watching Dressage. That's why he probably didn't practice with the team that much.

Speaker 1 That looked like they did it perfectly.

Speaker 1 I would much rather. this is why the debate, like, would you rather win bronze or silver? I'd rather win bronze because then you don't have to live like the rest of your life saying I was so close.

Speaker 4 I would like to win bronze if I lost to the gold medal winner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but still, like, they had the best time yesterday. France didn't.

Speaker 1 France looked, you know, in front of the home crowd. They lose, and then all the Serbians show up drunk as fuck.
There's also, the stat continues that

Speaker 1 there's only three teams, three countries that have won a gold medal outside of U.S. in men's basketball, and

Speaker 1 two of those three countries do not exist. So it's kind of a fun stat.

Speaker 4 What countries were they? Argentina? Was that the one that's going to be a statement?

Speaker 1 Argentina does exist.

Speaker 1 And then Soviet Union, Yugoslavia. Okay, yeah.
If Yugoslavia had stayed a country, they'd be a problem. They'd be a real problem.
Because they would have Jokic and Luka.

Speaker 4 They should be allowed to compete. It would be fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So the only country that still exists that has won a gold other than the U.S. is Argentina.

Speaker 4 And Soviet Union would have KP.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 There was no Russia in these Olympics, right? For the most part. I guess not.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We won the gold, or we won the Olympics. We did, yeah.

Speaker 4 Congratulations, we did it. We did it.

Speaker 1 We tied with

Speaker 1 China for most golds, and then the tiebreaker, which I think is made up by us.

Speaker 4 Is it silvers?

Speaker 1 Is silvers and bronzes. Oh, we won.
Together. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we did it, guys.

Speaker 1 Also, we were very close to not winning the total golds. And I just wanted to shout out.

Speaker 1 I don't know who this person is, Iman Kealiff.

Speaker 1 That person stopped China from getting one extra gold.

Speaker 4 Because if Iman Kilif,

Speaker 4 what division were they competing? This was women's boxing. Women's boxing.
Okay,

Speaker 4 shout out to her. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So she stopped.

Speaker 1 She beat a Chinese woman in the welterweight championship.

Speaker 4 She's my favorite woman in the world.

Speaker 1 That's a funny wrinkle.

Speaker 4 Let's go. USA.

Speaker 1 USA would have had it.

Speaker 4 All of the United States was rooting for whoever that boxer that you said.

Speaker 1 Yes. So that's all getting behind us.

Speaker 4 It's really good that we won the medal count. I love that.
I love just being able to say like, fuck you to the rest of the world. We still got it.
I don't care. Well, what about the horses?

Speaker 4 Do we know where the horses were from?

Speaker 1 No, I don't know if you have to bring in the horses from the same place.

Speaker 4 Because I feel like the horses should get the medals. The riders should not get the medals at the equestrian events.
Yeah. We did have an awesome.
I forget her name.

Speaker 4 Shit, what's her name? The female wrestler that suplexed the fuck out of her opponent in the finals and just dropped on her head. Basically broke her neck in the finals.
They had to stop her.

Speaker 4 For U.S.? Yeah, it was an awesome movie.

Speaker 1 Fuck yeah.

Speaker 4 I forget who it was. Hell yeah.
But shout out to her because she's a fucking hoss.

Speaker 1 Also, if we're going to try to figure out how to make sure that we win the golds outright at L.A., well, first of all, I didn't even realize that you get to, the host country gets to add a sport. Yep.

Speaker 4 That's how breakdancing came in. Shout out to Raygon.
Yeah, Raygun

Speaker 4 took the world by storm. We watched some of the breaking on Friday here in the office.
I was trying to live bet on it.

Speaker 4 I had no idea how the point system worked, but Raygon was, she's a a hero she's yeah she's amazing she was doing the kangaroo hop she was doing moves like an eighth grader would do at a talent show yeah she's the rest of the break dancers have to be very upset at her because i watched some of the others and they were incredible yeah like spinning on their heads for minutes at a time and then raygon was just doing a lane you know bennis dance she's a uh she's a professor and one of the things that she teaches is break dancing uh i would drop her class yes if i were in it but she basically found a way to get a free trip to to france and get a team uniform uniform.

Speaker 4 Yeah, credit to her. Yeah.
And she was wearing like an Australian cricket uniform. She was wearing like the green pants, a green polo shirt, the green hat.
It was awesome.

Speaker 4 I was struggling to figure out what the rules were with breaking. I didn't know if there was like a TKO.
If you serve somebody so hard, they just stop the fight. Yeah.
Like that's too much.

Speaker 4 That's too much. Someone's going to get hurt.
Like battle rap?

Speaker 1 Like battle rap.

Speaker 4 Battle rap should be in the LA.

Speaker 1 Our own being an Olympian.

Speaker 4 Would be sick. I think it might be more of a sport than some of the sports that we saw.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Definitely more of a sport than curling.

Speaker 1 I think we're re adding football. Is that what is being our black football, baseball? Oh, is baseball our sport?

Speaker 4 Baseball should be back, anyways.

Speaker 1 We might not win that.

Speaker 4 We might not win that.

Speaker 4 We should win football, but

Speaker 4 remember our team stinks.

Speaker 1 No, but we're going to have NFL players.

Speaker 4 Joe Burrow. Yeah.
He said he wants to do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was looking at it. If we want to figure out a way to win it outright,

Speaker 1 China, now, I'm not saying that they, you know, it's a Mickey Mouse gold half of a title, whatever you want to call it. They won five ping pong events and eight diving events.
Seems a little.

Speaker 4 How are there five ping pong events?

Speaker 1 I have no idea, but they won them all.

Speaker 4 Because there should be, at the max, there should be four, right?

Speaker 1 I think there's women's

Speaker 1 men's doubles, women's doubles, doubles.

Speaker 4 Mixed. Mixed doubles.
Mixed doubles.

Speaker 1 They swept it. They swept the board.
I don't like that. I didn't know there was eight divings.

Speaker 4 That's too many divings.

Speaker 1 You swept the board on that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there's too many of the niche ones. There should be maximum four medals in table tennis or football.

Speaker 4 Now, maybe we've got to sweeten the pot a little bit because we're giving each gold medalist $37,000. That's what the U.S.
gives.

Speaker 1 And a job at Home Depot.

Speaker 4 Other countries, no, we don't even do that anymore. Sometimes they get their picture on a Wheaties box.
Congratulations, here's 37 grand and your picture on the worst cereal in the world. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Enjoy.

Speaker 4 Hong Kong and Singapore

Speaker 4 do the highest payouts.

Speaker 4 Hong Kong gives $768,000 to their winner. Singapore gives $745,000.

Speaker 4 And then the Philippines gives

Speaker 4 a house, a lot, a two-bedroom condominium, $18,000 worth of furniture, a lifetime supply of cookies. That's sick.
And free meals for life from local restaurant chains, including Korean fried chicken.

Speaker 1 They should just do the Armageddon. If you win a gold medal for the U.S., you never pay taxes.

Speaker 4 Don't pay taxes. And also, you get to commit one felony.

Speaker 1 Sure. Get out of jail for you.
Not paying taxes.

Speaker 4 Not paying taxes, but also you can transfer that up to manslaughter.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 4 Caitlin Jenner would probably still be walking amongst us. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Having everyone be like, hey, I don't have to pay taxes again, that would be the greatest. She is still walking.

Speaker 4 At least she's not driving.

Speaker 1 Driving. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Driving is her issue. Indonesia in 2021 gave their gold medalist five cows each and a meatball restaurant.

Speaker 1 Oh, Max. Wow.
Yeah. Max, you need to get a passport.
Yep.

Speaker 4 We got to step our shit up. And in South Korea, you get pensions.
So you get like the lump sum, and then you get money every single year for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Instead, we have Noah Lyles, who's winning.

Speaker 1 He might be hater of the year.

Speaker 1 He might have to do that as a takeie, hater of the year, because he was the one who, before the Olympics, said you don't win a world championship if you win the NBA championship. Yep.

Speaker 1 That's not the world. Everyone's like, that's kind of weird.
Whatever. Hank, did you write that down?

Speaker 1 Takeies. Takeies.
Got it. Hank, write it down.
What was it, Mike?

Speaker 1 Hater of the year.

Speaker 1 Who? No Allows. Okay.
You got it? Yeah. Once you write it down.
What's going on? Because

Speaker 1 you did say this year you're going to be on top of it. Max said he was going to be on top of it.
Did I? No, I didn't. Absolutely not me.
No.

Speaker 1 No, no. So are you giving away? I can be on top of it.

Speaker 1 I can take this responsibility. Can I take the lead there?

Speaker 4 You already did.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 This could be on me. This could be on me.

Speaker 7 I told Max to write it down, and then Max, for some reason, turned his mic on to tell Hank. But me and him are in charge of it.

Speaker 1 Hey, listen, Hank's being hurt right now. I support Max.
No, that's all me. That's all me.

Speaker 1 Will you be the backup? Yeah. Okay.
Well, he'll be the third.

Speaker 1 Maybe tell Max to write that down. Yeah, Max write that down.
Yeah, I'll write that down. I'll write that down.

Speaker 4 I feel like Hank could show some strong competition hater of the year, too. Yeah, for sure.
It's an award that I guarantee you he will be nominated.

Speaker 1 But Noah Lyles, it came out that he was upset because Adidas, when he was negotiating with Adidas for his new contract, they invited him to an Anthony Edwards event. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he was like, this guy hasn't even been to an NBA Finals. So I actually, I understand.
Noah Lyles is basically like, I need to get my name out there.

Speaker 1 So be hater of the year and people will talk about me.

Speaker 1 I think he knows what he's doing. And I want to have his side in the fact that he can't be that dumb that he thinks that.
like running track every four years is important as playing in the NBA.

Speaker 1 He does.

Speaker 4 He does.

Speaker 1 Okay, so maybe he's that.

Speaker 4 This is what I love about Noah Lyles. I think it all comes naturally to him.

Speaker 1 Okay, he definitely got cut playing basketball, right? Like he's got some very deep-seated anger for any ball sport. Yeah.
And he's like, why is track not the number one sport in America?

Speaker 4 He was like a point guard that didn't have any handles whatsoever. And every time he was on a fast break, he'd dribble it off his foot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Noah Lyles, a little tip for you. Why don't you just say that you're going to try out for an NFL team? That would get you some nice publicity.
People would talk about it.

Speaker 1 People be like, wow, could you imagine Noah Lyles

Speaker 1 running a go route now?

Speaker 1 You probably can't catch because you're this upset about Anthony Edwards, who's one of the best NBA players. But we'll deal with that later.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he would be sick on the Chiefs. Flag football.

Speaker 1 Flag football. He probably, there's no, I know Lyles definitely, if you threw him a ball, he would not be able to catch it.
No. That's the vibe I'm getting from his anger towards the NBA.

Speaker 4 I felt like he excelled at puzzles from a young age. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And he also

Speaker 1 overcame COVID to get the hater going. I like that.
He was just better, and then he was just like, now I got my hater back.

Speaker 4 I am a little bit concerned about the state of one sport in America. Okay.
Swimming. Yeah.
Male swimming in America.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, the French guy kicked our ass.

Speaker 4 French guy kicked her ass. Katie Ladecki, shout out to her.
I think she's like tied for the lead in gold medals.

Speaker 1 Shout out to all our women. Yeah.
I think they dominated.

Speaker 4 They dominated. Our men.
Our men stink at swimming. What happened? What happened to American men? Is it Fellas? Is it gay to swim?

Speaker 1 Phelps might need to make a comeback. Because I actually think he could.

Speaker 4 I think he'd probably do better than whatever these jackasses were. Yeah.
But we only got one gold medal and male swimming.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I don't know what the problem is.
Do we, like, I know, Huey, you can definitely swim, right? Well, wasn't.

Speaker 1 Probably. No, probably.
Wasn't Caleb Dressel the big story was that he was watching House of Dragon too late one night? Yeah. So maybe we just got to take away TVs.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 If we put our best players, our best athletes into swimming, we would dominate.

Speaker 1 And we don't. We don't.
I had fun. Listen, Olympics were fun.
Can't say I watched a ton of it, but I watched it here and there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was good. It was good to have on in these desperate weeks that we just need to get through training camp.

Speaker 1 And the basketball was awesome.

Speaker 1 Basketball, the fact that the world has caught up and it makes it very exciting and there's drama involved in it. Like, that was a dramatic game.
Yeah. And I'm happy we won.

Speaker 4 I would like to see an Olympics where they just select the athletes at random. Like anybody from the United States could get put on any team.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And we'd have to compete just average people from around the world competing against other average people in random sports that they've never practiced.

Speaker 1 Well, they should have one average person in every single event, just so that we have a barometer. To show you that.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're just like, hey, here's the 100-meter dash, have just a random 35-year-old dude running it. Yeah.
We can be like, oh, that's me. Yeah.
I suck. I lost by seven seconds.

Speaker 4 I think one of the funniest events for that would be the high jump. Where you have to try to jump over it backwards.

Speaker 4 Because I think most people, if you tried to do that motion, you would just land directly on your head and you wouldn't even get above the mat. Yeah, pole vault.
You just go straight sideways.

Speaker 4 I mean, all these.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they should absolutely have just a base person just competing in all these events just so that we can see it because it would, we would quickly realize how much better they are.

Speaker 1 Not that we don't, but there's always a little bit of you where it's like, that doesn't seem that hard. There should also be.

Speaker 4 They all are very hard. There should be eating in the Olympics, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Joey Chestnut.

Speaker 4 Joey, you should put that in for 2028. That would have rocked.
Hot dog eating.

Speaker 1 That would have rocked.

Speaker 1 You want to talk about football? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was a fun weekend of football.

Speaker 4 It was a great week. It's back.

Speaker 1 It's preseason. I lasted as long as I lasted longer than I ever could ever.

Speaker 4 Oh, I didn't even try.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I tried. Hour and a half I lasted.

Speaker 4 I didn't try.

Speaker 1 I saw all you were impressed.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So, Big Cat, congratulations.

Speaker 1 Congratulations to you as well.

Speaker 4 How many Super Bowls do you think you're going to get?

Speaker 1 Listen, I don't want to talk about Super Bowls. I just want to talk about

Speaker 1 the realization that I had. And this is going to get clipped, and people are going to say I'm stupid, and I'm doing it all over again.

Speaker 1 Watching Caleb Williams play quarterback made me feel like the dumbest person in the entire world for ever thinking that Mitch Trubisky and Justin Fields were the guys because it looks so different.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I know it's preseason.
I know it was only a few plays, but it just looks different. Like

Speaker 1 he's confident, poised, like reading the defense.

Speaker 1 It just looks different. I felt like such an idiot.
And yeah, I lasted an hour and a half and I told the whole world to suck my dick from the back.

Speaker 4 Yeah, as you should, because my own experience watching Jaden on Saturday. That one throw he's had.

Speaker 1 Oh, so sick.

Speaker 4 And then Big Ed, when I found out that he audibled into that play, oh my God, I covered my entire basement. Yeah.
I got stalagtites dripping from the ceiling now. Gross.

Speaker 1 I've never, I don't want to say never.

Speaker 4 He reminds me of RG3 in the RG3 good times. It's been 30 years since I've had a quarterback that for longer than like 10 weeks, I could really root for and really think this is the guy

Speaker 4 and know this is the guy but because he's so fucking I know I agree I agree ball is so good he's so fast I agree he's just and he looks good in the uniform it's awesome I mean you said RG3 I

Speaker 1 the the screen dump off that Caleb Williams made when a guy had his hand in his face and it was like a broken play yeah

Speaker 1 that looked like Patrick Mahomes yeah we got I don't I but I'm not I'm not these are just we should have prefaced this segment with this is a safe space.

Speaker 1 We're just talking, two guys, having fun, talking. None of this is, we're not putting this on anyone.
This is not what we're saying is going to happen. We're just saying what we saw.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 In a preseason game.

Speaker 4 What I saw. Sickos.
What I saw in preseason week one.

Speaker 1 Preseason week one.

Speaker 4 Week one.

Speaker 1 It was week two for the Bears. With Williams didn't play week one.

Speaker 4 The excitement of having a team that has a quarterback, it's like we're fans of different sport this year. It's like Sundays are going to be different.
Deep. Sundays are different this year.

Speaker 1 like being like third and long. Sundays hit.
We could maybe still get this. Yeah.
Hank, did you feel the same way? About Joe Milton? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I actually, I made a list. I made a ranking.
Oh. Should we do rankings of rookie quarterbacks? Sure.
Number one, I had Joe Milton. Yep.
Because Joe Milton is fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 You had the boys fired up.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Boys on the side.

Speaker 1 I also wouldn't have been watching. It was on when we were doing Coach Doug, so I pretty much watched the whole game.

Speaker 1 And you could tell, you know, coming off the sidelines, like the team, team was rallying. It's already a QB controversy.
Team was rallying behind him.

Speaker 4 We'll see. I think so.
And we are in phase one of the Joe Milton experience. Would

Speaker 1 this be so mean, though, if Joe Milton did to Bailey Zappi what Bailey Zappi did to Mac Jones?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're going to have a decision to make four QBs, three spots. Yeah.

Speaker 4 This segment is also

Speaker 4 pretending to be guys that have never watched Joe Milton play in college at all. Yeah, no.

Speaker 4 That guy, how did that guy last until the sixth round? That guy should have been top 10.

Speaker 1 Patriots get a sixth round steal.

Speaker 4 History repeats itself. Yeah.
Number two, I had a tie between Caleb and Jaden. That's fair.
I wanted to be fair and Joe Milton, obviously, number one. Caleb Jaden, number two.
J.J.

Speaker 4 Arrington, number three. J.J.
Arrington? J.J., no, sorry, sorry. J.J.

Speaker 6 McCarthy? McCarthy.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Viking, number three.

Speaker 1 Second defense.

Speaker 4 Second defense.

Speaker 1 Where did Arrington come from?

Speaker 4 I don't know. There's a player named J.J.
Arrington.

Speaker 1 LeVar Arrington.

Speaker 4 Number four, Bo Nicks.

Speaker 4 Bo Nicks look good. This might be the season.
Bo Nicks.

Speaker 4 Bo Nicks.

Speaker 4 I feel like he's. J.J.

Speaker 1 Arrington Arrington was a running back for Cal. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Bonix, a lot of Heisman buzz around him this year. I think he's going to be good.
Yeah. Five, Spencer Rattler.
Spencer looked good.

Speaker 1 He plays for?

Speaker 4 He plays for an NFL team. But I looked up his stats and they were good.

Speaker 4 Number six, Michael Pennix.

Speaker 4 And then number seven, I Drake May.

Speaker 4 It's a pretty good class.

Speaker 1 And Stetson Bennett.

Speaker 4 Technically a rookie, kind of. Kind of.
Yeah, because he sat out. He bounced back really nicely from his fourth interception.

Speaker 1 Game-winning drive. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Anthony Richardson, also kind of a rookie.

Speaker 4 Kind of, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was fun watching football. I'm very excited.
I'm going to let myself.

Speaker 1 I really did. I tried so hard, PFT.
I was like, I'm not going to be, I'm not going to do what I always do and just get crazy. And I was like, I was basically the meme, the kid in class.

Speaker 1 like holding everything in. I was just for an hour, I was watching the Bears and I was like, I'm not going to get crazy and tweet crazy shit.
Like, this has got to be different.

Speaker 1 I got to act differently. And then I just lost it and just busted everywhere.

Speaker 4 He looked really good.

Speaker 1 He looked very good. So did Jaden.
I'll tell you what. That was going to be the worst clip ever.
I don't care. I'm ready.

Speaker 4 Make no mistake. I'm ready to be hurt again.

Speaker 1 I am.

Speaker 4 I haven't felt that way watching sports in a while.

Speaker 1 Markel Fultz was so good in Summer League.

Speaker 4 Why do you have to make this about Philadelphia? Good point.

Speaker 1 What the fuck? That's a good point. I'm just saying.
What the fuck? That's a fair point. Max.
I'm not. I want to say I am not ready to get hurt again.
Oh, I am. I am not.

Speaker 1 I've been hurt too many times too recently. I feel like if we've played the

Speaker 1 Fields' first preseason, yes, that's why I'm not ready to get hurt again. Exactly.
But

Speaker 1 I just told you, Hank. I watched it.

Speaker 1 Once I saw Justin,

Speaker 1 I knew Mitch wasn't a

Speaker 1 guy. I'm not ready to get hurt again.

Speaker 1 I'm not mentally, physically

Speaker 1 in a space where I could take the hurt again.

Speaker 1 it will kill me. It will kill me.
This would be the last hurt of my life.

Speaker 4 Max, if you had to pick, if you had to rank between just the three of us in this room, which quarterback would you want first? Joe Milton.

Speaker 1 Good answer. He's got a rocket arm.

Speaker 4 Stud. Threw an orange 106 yards.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about it.

Speaker 1 I think I would want the Patriots to be the best. Why?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 I already know cocky Hank. I already know what it's like to be around Hank.
Oh, it's the devil you know. It's the devil I know.
I don't know how I am. That makes sense.

Speaker 1 On what planet would we be worse? No, that's a fair.

Speaker 1 That's a fair.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 We can't be worse than this guy.

Speaker 1 That's not true.

Speaker 4 He's drunk during a show right now.

Speaker 1 That's also not true. But I already hate Hank.

Speaker 1 I don't want to hate you guys. You pass a breathalyzer right now? Yeah.

Speaker 4 We should get a breathalyzer. I doubt it.

Speaker 1 I actually understand what you're saying, Max, because I don't know what I'm capable of. Like, it's scary to think of what I could be capable of if Cale Williams was like incredible.

Speaker 1 I might be a monster. Yeah, I mean, it would be cool.
Like, if Chicago was buzzing for the Bears, that would be fun. Yeah.
But we need the hopes to get up. I want both you guys to see.

Speaker 1 Oh, see, you're always doing it that way, though. You never know.

Speaker 4 Thank you, Hank. He wants us to make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Hank.

Speaker 1 It was just preseason week one.

Speaker 4 It was. And we might be a year out, but Jaden.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 CJ Stroud was really good in the preseason last year. I think more than anything, it's just the ups and downs I have to figure out how to deal with better.
It's the ups and downs.

Speaker 4 Well, we haven't been here before.

Speaker 1 I'm like a drive-by-drive guy, and I need to figure out how to be.

Speaker 1 You had RG3.

Speaker 4 Very recently. That was 12 years ago.
You had Sam Howell. And it lasted like...

Speaker 4 Oh, remember?

Speaker 1 Sam Howell, you did say was a guy?

Speaker 4 I was talking Soupy after two weeks last year. Yes.

Speaker 4 That was 12 years ago, Hank. And we had like maybe 13 weeks where he looked healthy.

Speaker 1 Sam Howe was so good against the Eagles in that one game. He was.
It was kind of twice since the podcast has existed. That's why I'm not ready to get hurt again.

Speaker 1 It's become a little bit more. But like, though, we haven't been there before.
Yes, you have. No, I haven't.

Speaker 4 Not since RG3.

Speaker 4 Second pick overall.

Speaker 1 Sickos. Croissant.
Although, deep down, I feel like Packers fans might actually think they're a little worried. Although Jordan Love looks good.
But I think they're a little worried.

Speaker 4 The RG3 Croissant picture was so funny. Yeah.
Very, very funny.

Speaker 4 He's always horny. He was deep-throating that thing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Deep-throating. Rena was not.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 RG3. He had that past the gag reflex.

Speaker 1 She was not like in on the same joke that he was doing. I don't think it was a joke.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't think so either. He just loves croissant.

Speaker 1 He loves croissants.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Do we have anything else before we do who's back of the week?

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Speaker 1 Henry, who's back of the week? My who's back of the week is Jameis Winston. Yes.

Speaker 1 We're going to do new face, same faces, new places. I think we'll do that Wednesday now.
Soon, but

Speaker 1 Jameis on the Browns is a matchmate in heaven.

Speaker 1 He had a

Speaker 1 very funny pregame speech. Go ahead.
Getting the boys fired up. Tell us what he said in the pregame.
Reenact the pregame speech. Get us fired up.

Speaker 4 What do you mean? Come on, do it. Get us fired up.

Speaker 1 Pretend that you're... Where are my dogs at? Okay.
That was good. And yeah, we're about to do a podcast.
He said, like,

Speaker 1 I'm going to spell D-A-W-G-S, and then we're going to go whoo-hoo-hoo. Okay.

Speaker 1 So you do it. But do it for us, for the podcast.
Give me a D. D.

Speaker 1 Give me an A. A.

Speaker 1 Give me a W.

Speaker 1 W.

Speaker 1 Give me a G. G.
Give me an S. S.
Where are my dogs at?

Speaker 1 Right here.

Speaker 1 Jameis did it better. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I wasn't as fired up as the Browns were.

Speaker 4 If you were Deshaun Watson, you saw that, you'd be a little bit nervous, right? Of course.

Speaker 1 Jameis is the best.

Speaker 4 Like, he's got a captive audience. Everyone hangs every word that he says.

Speaker 1 At bare minimum,

Speaker 1 if Deshaun Watson has an MVP-type year,

Speaker 1 even with an MVP-type year, the rest of the locker room likes Jameis more. Yeah.
Like, no matter what, you have a backup quarterback that is liked more.

Speaker 4 The whole building likes Jameis more. Correct.

Speaker 4 And he doesn't have all that baggage that Deshaun has. Correct.
The history.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 1 Facts. Good, good.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Was that the last tweet you saw?

Speaker 1 No. Oh.

Speaker 4 That's a good who's back accurate.

Speaker 1 That's a great who's back. Thank you.
Way do your job. Johnston.
Thank you. It's back.
He is. I thought your who's back was going to be elevators.

Speaker 1 No, no elevators. We did get stuck in an elevator.
Oh, to tell.

Speaker 1 We were just going down. We had too many people in the elevator.
Was Max in it? Max was not in it. I was not in it.
This is bullshit. That was a bullshit question.
I was not in the elevator.

Speaker 1 I'm just asking. I got down safely.
I got down safely. Wait, so you, how many people did you get in the elevator? It was probably like 15.
I think it's like a 2,000 weight limit. We had a couple.

Speaker 1 And no Max. A couple big boys, though, a couple football players, former football players, Quiggs.

Speaker 1 Whoa, come on. Come on.

Speaker 1 Whoa. Quigs is allowed to get fucking shots.

Speaker 4 Hank, you were in there, too.

Speaker 1 I was in there. And I was like, oh, yeah, we're good.
Let's just squeeze on. And then we got to the first floor, and then you just felt it go even lower.
Wait, got down to the first floor?

Speaker 1 Got down to the first floor, and then it dropped. Oh.
Oh, you sank too low. So they had to open the door.
It took like 10, 15 minutes, and then we had to basically climb out

Speaker 1 onto the first floor.

Speaker 4 Was that a Thrice and Krupp elevator? I know it wasn't an Otis. I don't know what type of electronic electric would never malfunction like that.
So Hank, answer me this.

Speaker 4 Had you been drinking alcohol before this? Yes. Okay, so

Speaker 4 I would imagine if you're stuck in an elevator with 15 people that had been drinking, not Max. Not Max.

Speaker 4 Somebody had to go to the bathroom at some point, right?

Speaker 1 No, it wasn't. It hadn't got to that point.

Speaker 1 Everyone was pretty chill. No one was freaking out, even though we were squeezed in pretty tight.

Speaker 1 It was a nightmare.

Speaker 1 It was good vibes. I think if it went another like 10 minutes, then, you some people might have been claustrophobic or had to pee, but it wasn't too, too bad.

Speaker 1 I'm so mad that Max wasn't on that elevator.

Speaker 4 Did you get some tunes going?

Speaker 1 I was playing some music. Yeah.

Speaker 4 What's good elevator music?

Speaker 1 Billy Strings.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're obsessed with Billy Strings.

Speaker 1 Well, that was just what was on my Spotify being played, so I just pressed play.

Speaker 9 Kept it going. I already back up.

Speaker 1 We also were playing it. We were playing a

Speaker 1 great playlist.

Speaker 1 I think you asked for it. I just looked it up on Spotify.
The playlist is called just Vietnam War War Music. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I was watching the planes at Hank's place, and they brought the helicopters out. I was like, we got to blast Fortunate Sun.
Yeah. It's a must.

Speaker 1 But it's a great playlist. I've been playing it all day.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 You've got a little mini Vietnam going on in your brain right now.

Speaker 1 It's a constant Vietnam in my brain.

Speaker 1 Just try to avoid winning. No one's winning.
No one's winning.

Speaker 1 Yeah. A lot of resources.
No one's winning.

Speaker 1 All right. That elevators being, I've been stuck in one elevator in my life.
It was brutal. It's just like

Speaker 1 that first five minutes, like, are we getting out? Are we never getting out? And then you realize you're probably going to be fine. Yeah.
Did you call the fire department? No. It wasn't.

Speaker 1 I wasn't that worried about it until once we got out. I was like, oh, that was kind of bad.

Speaker 1 You had to step. So you would, what if you got caught when you were stepping up? Or yeah, if you were stepping up and the thing came down.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would have been bad.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it would have been real bad. Would have been a shame.

Speaker 1 Real bad. Okay, PFT, your who's back.

Speaker 4 My who's back of the week is the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah.
They just redid Lucas Oil Stadium.

Speaker 4 They did some renovations to it, some major renovations, to the point where I don't think they could open up the roof.

Speaker 4 They opened up the window, and they were trying to open the roof up, but they couldn't.

Speaker 4 I guess they've taken some things down from the stadium, and the stadium roof is not used to being opened in this new configuration. One of the things they took down was sent to our office.

Speaker 4 It's a piece of NFL history, to say lightly.

Speaker 4 Jim Merce

Speaker 4 specially packaged up and sent over, first of all, a very nice letter for myself and Big Cat.

Speaker 1 Normal signature.

Speaker 4 Totally cool signature. Referred to us as Mr.
Cat and Mr. Comets.
I like that touch. And he added in a little line about sometimes it takes a real friend to tell you when you're pissing in the wind.

Speaker 4 Yep. So we opened up the package and what's inside but the 2014 AFC finalist banner.
The one that was hanging up in Lucas Oil Stadium. So we have that here at Barstow HQ.

Speaker 1 The Deflate Gate game.

Speaker 4 It's the Deflate Gate game. Hank actually is responsible for that banner.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Got arrested because of that banner.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you can't tell the story of the NFL without the 2014 Colts AFC Finalist banner. We've had a lot of fun with that banner over the years.
I think Memes has made like 70 Photoshops of it.

Speaker 4 And now it's ours, and we've got to figure out a place to hang it up. We own it.
We own it. But thank you to Mr.
Ursula. Incredible Colts.

Speaker 4 Never in a million years, I knew that there was a package coming from them. Never in a million years did I think it was going to be that banner.
No.

Speaker 4 So we tried to find a place to hang it up in the office. It's so big that there's maybe one or two places we can hang it up, but we have to figure out a good place for it.
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 1 It's an incredible gift. It is a piece of NFL history.
Thank you to Mr. Ursay.
Also, a very funny way to rid yourself of that. Yeah.
Because putting it back up, you really can't do it.

Speaker 1 It's been mocked a lot. But to send it to us, it's like we have it now.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 TJ had a very good suggestion, which was to get Christian Yushek to make jackets out of it.

Speaker 1 I want to upholster, re-upholster.

Speaker 4 I like that idea. All of Vanny Woodhead.
Just turn it into the banner on the inside.

Speaker 1 The entire inside of Vanny Woodhead is just the banner.

Speaker 4 What if we just got in touch with Darren Revell and Clit and had him cut it up and then make trading cards with actual preseason

Speaker 4 of the banner on it?

Speaker 1 We also had,

Speaker 1 speaking of the Colts, my new favorite NFL fan, I didn't know this guy. Apparently, he's like, I don't know.
Colts fans know who he is. Flow with Seth.
He makes a music video before every game,

Speaker 1 including preseason games. I'm going to play you flow with Seth.
It's only 30 seconds. His preseason music video for

Speaker 1 the Broncos versus the Colts preseason week one. Shout out this guy.
We need to maybe get him to do a custom song for us.

Speaker 1 This is our Colts. This is our team.

Speaker 1 We bleed blue. This is for preseason.
This is our Colts. Whether win or lose, we love them.

Speaker 1 For the shoe, beat the Broncos.

Speaker 1 Let's show them who the real horse is. This is our team.
Go Colts.

Speaker 4 The nay really does it.

Speaker 4 The nay does it for me. That was horrible.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 That was awesome. He's a football fan, Hank.
That's a football guy through and three. He makes a custom song for every game.
I like the let's show them who the real horse is. Yeah, and then the nay.

Speaker 1 The nay. The nay was everything.

Speaker 1 The nay went like, you're kind of listening to it, like, I don't know, I don't know. Then the nay hits, and you're like, this guy rocks.

Speaker 4 I think Hank had already written him off after the opening line.

Speaker 1 That was sad, Hank. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Take it back.

Speaker 1 Flow with Seth is the man.

Speaker 1 Flow with Seth is the man. Say it.

Speaker 1 No. Okay.

Speaker 1 He can do better. Sour pussy.
He can do better.

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 4 He can do better. It was week one.
It's preseason for Flow with Seth, too.

Speaker 1 That's facts.

Speaker 4 Get used to it.

Speaker 4 I was thinking if they tried to auction off that banner, how much it would go for, and then I realized we'd probably be the only ones that would bid on it. Yeah.
We would just

Speaker 4 drive ourselves up. Yeah, we'd drive the price up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Awesome gift.
Awesome gift. Did you guys like Flow with Seth?

Speaker 1 Loved him. Okay, good.
Voice of an Angel. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we got a.

Speaker 1 I think the banner, I think we can put it behind the video board.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it needs to be somewhere prominent.

Speaker 1 That's what I was thinking, too. But that's pretty prominent.
Yeah. Like you walk in and you see it.

Speaker 4 I just love it. I look at it and I smile.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It does need to be hung up.
I want to see it all the time.

Speaker 4 It's probably the nicest gift I've ever gotten in my entire life.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably. Yeah.
Think about it.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Like, what could top that?

Speaker 1 Oh, they're trying to figure out if they can put it up in the booth. We're trying to think of if we can make it our entire booth.
It's way too big. No, but they could do it like that.

Speaker 1 Like all the way around. Like, even on top, maybe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, no, but

Speaker 1 everyone would do that in their dorm room, trying to be cool, put the flag, a little drape down. Yes.

Speaker 1 Like, get the vibes right. If we're jealous.

Speaker 1 No, we don't know.

Speaker 4 I want to find a good good play. I'm just telling you, because I got to lay eyes on this thing when it was unfurled.
It's way too big for that room.

Speaker 1 But what if we wrapped it where it was on every single piece of room? Yeah, I'm thinking completely all the way around.

Speaker 4 I still think it'd be too big.

Speaker 1 No, even in front of the glass. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can live with that.

Speaker 1 We should give it a try. We should give it a try around the room.

Speaker 1 Okay, my who's back of the week is the PGA tour

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 Graham McDowell on the live

Speaker 1 got one game, one week suspension

Speaker 1 for using nasal decongested.

Speaker 4 That's what he said, yeah. He said that it was VIX.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was VIX. Banned substance.
Either way, I was shocked to know that. Does this count for announcers too? Because Jake might be

Speaker 1 in trouble. Big time, yeah.

Speaker 1 But I was shocked to know that Liv had a steroid problem.

Speaker 4 I thought that was the entire point. It was like, hey, Dustin Johnson, come play on our tour.
Right.

Speaker 1 You're good. So the PGA tour is back.
Yeah. Like, this is bad for the Liv.

Speaker 1 You have to,

Speaker 1 you have no rules. You play golf with shorts.

Speaker 4 I'm pretty sure that they could sweep this under the rug. Who is it, Graham McDowell?

Speaker 1 Graham McDowell.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if it was somebody not named Graham McDowell that made the money.

Speaker 1 The next event he'll be at is the Live Chicago event. Maybe we should go out with the big Asterix poster board.

Speaker 4 I'm going to use so much nasal spray before.

Speaker 1 I can't believe you took away the game we love.

Speaker 4 Wait, is that the next event?

Speaker 1 That's the next. Well, he's suspended from the next event.
Okay. Then the next event he can play in is the Live Chicago event.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 when they said golf but louder, I didn't think it was gonna have, you know, Vic's vapor rub was gonna be included. Yeah, just fucked up.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they should, you should, if you're the live tour, make everything legal. Yeah.
Have it be steroids, but golf.

Speaker 1 Right. Tackling.
Yes.

Speaker 4 And a football. And football.
And then pilons. And then your championship game.

Speaker 4 February. Yeah.
Yeah. And you redo the t-shot at the beginning.
I mean, they make it very confusing when nobody knows what's going on.

Speaker 1 They definitely will try to create a football league. I'm in.
Saudis.

Speaker 1 More football. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Huey, your who's back of the week. My who's back.

Speaker 1 The good old quarterback controversy.

Speaker 4 It is perfect time of year for that.

Speaker 4 I think right now in New England and Denver, maybe a little

Speaker 4 talk about it happening in Tennessee, maybe.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 Just a good old, it's always the mid-tier teams.

Speaker 4 It's never the top-tier Super Bowl winning potential teams who are in quarterback controversies.

Speaker 4 But the quarterback who could be a controversy could come out, you know, like a Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn situation. Yeah.
There could be a guy who comes out of this.

Speaker 4 So it doesn't mean that, you know, they're going to be a guy this year, but this could be a future thing, especially for a Patriot or a Peter.

Speaker 1 This is the season. This is the time when we all.

Speaker 4 And I feel like in Denver, at least, Sean Payton has said so many nice things about Bo Nicks. You know how coaches don't really give a shit what you do in the preseason? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Sean Payton probably felt like he had to let Bo Nicks have a great performance. So he probably schemed some shit up for him.
That's so he didn't look like an idiot.

Speaker 1 That's a reputation pick. Yes.
His reputation is on the line.

Speaker 1 I think the same with Pettix,

Speaker 1 although Kirk is going to be the starter. But yeah, it is fun having this time of year.
Well, it's fun being on the other side.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't have a quarterback controversy.

Speaker 1 No controversy here. It's fucking, as much as I love Tyson Bajant, there is no controversy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I literally have no other good quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was the year that the Bears brought in, we brought in Foles and Andy Dalton.

Speaker 4 That was sad. That was the saddest quarterback contest.

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 1 we should have said Foles. Happy retirement.
Yeah, happy.

Speaker 1 We didn't mention it on Friday. Hank, good friend.
Foles' memory?

Speaker 1 None.

Speaker 1 None? You can't think of one? Nope.

Speaker 1 Come on. Snow game.
Snow game was cool.

Speaker 4 You remember when he threw that?

Speaker 1 I don't know if he was a quarterback. Wait, he didn't throw it.

Speaker 4 Fuck him.

Speaker 4 Didn't he at one point catch a ball in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 Was it in the same game that Tom Brady didn't catch a ball where he dropped it?

Speaker 1 That seems like a very special play.

Speaker 4 It does seem special.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 Max?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I like that play. Max,

Speaker 1 where does Nick Foles rank for you, all-time Eagles?

Speaker 1 Top five. Top five? Top five, yeah, for sure.
I mean, yeah, I guess that makes sense. For sure, without a doubt.
He didn't play long enough to be number one more than Hurts? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He won a Super Bowl. He did? Yes.

Speaker 1 Right now, Foles were a good one. What a career for Nick Foles.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Nick Foles, not a Hall of Famer, but he did have that one season where he, like a magical season. We should do a Mount Rushmore of guys that had like.
Well, he had two magical seasons.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had the one season that played. 22 and 2, was it? 22 touchdowns, 2 interceptions.
Two interceptions. It was crazy.

Speaker 1 He couldn't throw a pick that year. Yeah.
But no one thought he could kill it. And then we traded for Sam Bradford.
Yeah, but he had, let's see, Nick Foles, Super Bowl. And, oh, this is.

Speaker 1 He's got 87 million in the bank, cash. Pretty good.
He played the snow game. Also, this is very

Speaker 1 depressing because I just pulled up his earnings. I was at that game.

Speaker 1 His birthday is January 20th, 1989. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 I thought that was what my if you listen back when I said, oh, that was because I saw 1989. I was like, he just retired.
He's four years younger than us.

Speaker 4 If you had asked me, I would have said 1983.

Speaker 1 That sucks.

Speaker 1 He seems so old, right? God damn it.

Speaker 4 Nick Fool's as old as fuck.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Actually, I was thinking about this.

Speaker 1 Side tangent.

Speaker 1 If LeBron wanted to, how long do you think he could play?

Speaker 4 So he's embracing the gray thing. I don't know if it's a Paris deal where he's like, I'm going to let my beard grow out and have it be gray so everyone sees how gray I am.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh, old king still reigns. That type of thing.

Speaker 4 But based on the way that he played,

Speaker 4 if a steroid guy is still around,

Speaker 1 we'll get to the steroid Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 4 I think he could play another five years.

Speaker 1 But hold on. I asked that incorrectly.
If he embraced being like, I'm not going to be LeBron James, but I'm going to play till I'm

Speaker 1 not good enough to play in the NBA, I think it'd be 10 years. Maybe.

Speaker 1 If he in five years from now said, I'm cool

Speaker 1 being a bench guy, coming off the bench for like five minutes a game,

Speaker 1 will be better at 45, five minutes off the bench than a ton of players.

Speaker 4 I think at least five more years. Right.
At least.

Speaker 1 Like, he, it's very interesting. I don't think that I know that that's not how he's going to want to go out.

Speaker 1 He's not going to want to go out being on the bench, but he's the first time where it's like,

Speaker 1 like what,

Speaker 1 what's his name? Haslam did. No, wait, is that? Yeah, Eudonas has.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Eudonis Haslam.

Speaker 1 But like, he wasn't actually contributing at the end.

Speaker 1 But like LeBron, it's crazy to think, but I actually would say that LeBron, if he wanted to play basketball at 50 years old, could probably make an NBA roster. He probably could, yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't think that's that far off because right now he's still top five in the world.

Speaker 1 Easily. Top 10.

Speaker 4 I think he's probably top five in the world.

Speaker 1 In the world. Yeah.

Speaker 4 In the U.S.

Speaker 1 Top 10.

Speaker 4 But still, I feel like he could.

Speaker 1 But Tatum's better.

Speaker 1 Is he?

Speaker 4 If they were on the same team, who do you think would get the menace?

Speaker 1 Hank, we didn't mean to get back to this point. It just happened.
Well, we're talking about LeBron. This is the magic of the show.

Speaker 1 I was bringing up an actual hypothetical. We just ended up back in this.

Speaker 4 If you were to take the five best players in the United States, would you have LeBron in there or Tatum?

Speaker 1 Tatum.

Speaker 4 But if you're trying to win.

Speaker 1 So would he start? Yeah, he'd be in the closing lineup. He should be.
He'd be in my closing lineup. Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think at least five more years.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I kind of want him.

Speaker 1 Here, LeBron, you can save your legacy for me personally, which I know you care so deeply about, if you just try to push it as far as you can and see if you can play when you're 55, Jordan never won sixth man of the year.

Speaker 1 Right. He like he could be, I don't know, it'd be cool.
It'd be cool to see. He wouldn't do it, but it would be cool to see.

Speaker 4 You get an entire season of load management.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 Just put him in.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go as hard as you can for five minutes. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Let's get to our incredible interview with Matthew Stafford.
And then after that, we will do our Mount Rushmore. Hopefully, not as contentious as Yellow.
Actually, I hope it is.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is a future Hall of Famer Super Bowl champ.
It is our Grit Week interviews presented by Coors Light. It is Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 1 First of all, thank you for joining us. Of course, thank you guys for having me on.
Yes, so we start every Grit Week interview with the same question. How would you define the word grit?

Speaker 9 Oh, man.

Speaker 9 That's the good stuff.

Speaker 9 That's just being able to fight through whatever is ailing you, whether it's a situation or how you're feeling, but being able to push through anything to get whatever the goal is accomplished, right?

Speaker 9 Whether that's winning a football game, having a good play,

Speaker 9 you know, rallying for the next night out, whatever it is. You got to have a little grit.

Speaker 1 Separating your shoulder and coming down the field.

Speaker 1 That clip,

Speaker 1 you are a gritty quarterback. You've gone through a ton.
You've gotten hit a million times. You're tough as hell.

Speaker 1 Do you ever watch that clip of you famously separating your shoulder and then being like, hey, come out? And you're like, no, I'm not fucking coming out.

Speaker 1 Do you watch that and be like, man, I am tough?

Speaker 9 No, I usually

Speaker 9 think about that clip or I see that clip and I just start wincing again. But no,

Speaker 9 it's a cool thing that I got. I luckily to have been mic'd up by NSL Films for that moment.

Speaker 9 Otherwise, everybody's just calling me an idiot. Get back up.
Let's go. You wusp.
But

Speaker 9 it was kind of a cool moment to have. Yeah, it was cool.
You were like, get off me.

Speaker 4 You actually had to push trainers off you. Yeah.
Does that usually work?

Speaker 9 Yeah, usually. They're kind of soft.

Speaker 9 You can kind of get what you want when it comes to those guys. So, no,

Speaker 9 yeah, that was a weird one, right? They called timeout.

Speaker 9 And for some reason in my head, the moment it clicked, it was like, that counts as basically my play that I had to sit out so I could go back in.

Speaker 9 And I knew there was only going to be one more play, so I could get through one play with whatever was going on.

Speaker 4 What hat are you wearing right now? What is that? Dodger hat. Dodger hat.
Do you know anyone that plays for the Dodgers?

Speaker 1 No, I don't.

Speaker 9 You know, just an outside fan.

Speaker 4 You never went to school with anybody that was?

Speaker 9 No, just, you know, from the outside looking in, really.

Speaker 1 Can we fact-check that? Really?

Speaker 9 Do a deep dive. I don't know if anybody's heard of it.

Speaker 1 I mean, you play the games, so you don't listen to the games. Do you know how annoying that is?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, I do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, all my friends and family do the same shit to me all the time.

Speaker 9 And, you know,

Speaker 9 give me a tough time. But, yeah, I get it.
You know, it was cool 10, 12 years ago. But

Speaker 1 everybody gets it now. And now we add Scotty.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, it's just too much. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's too much. It's wild.

Speaker 4 When he got arrested, were you like, oh, man, this is dragging our high school?

Speaker 9 No, I was like, good for you, bro, man.

Speaker 1 You're just trying to make your tea time, man.

Speaker 9 Like, guy's just trying to make his tea time.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Do you ever feel like you don't get enough credit for doing the no-look passes?

Speaker 9 I don't know. I don't think about it too much, to be honest, as far as credit goes.

Speaker 9 I know that uh they're fun when they when they work they're kind of shitty when they don't but uh it is it's part of it you know i think defenses are so good these days these guys are so good at reading what we're doing with our eyes so i'm just trying to take advantage any little way i can how long have you been doing that is that something that's just more of a recent thing that we're noticing because there's more camera anglers everywhere or were you doing that like way back in the day um you know i think it's probably you know uh

Speaker 9 been publicized a little bit more recently, but I was having to do that probably back in the day with Calvin. You know, everybody in the building I was trying to throw him the ball.

Speaker 9 So I had to find different ways to make it look like I wasn't throwing him the ball and try to move underneath coverage to throw it to him. But yeah, I mean, it's definitely gotten more

Speaker 9 publicity, I guess, recently. But

Speaker 9 yeah, I had to do that with Megatron just trying to get him the ball. Yeah.

Speaker 4 When he retired, how often would you call him and be like, can you just maybe please just one more game? For the love of God, please come back.

Speaker 1 Like, I need you.

Speaker 9 No, it was, you know what?

Speaker 9 Like, that's one of those, he was such a special player, such like a generational player, and such a great teammate that I was, I was genuinely just so happy for him that he was walking away when he wanted to walk away.

Speaker 9 He was an all-time great. We all knew it.
It was unbelievable to get the chance and the opportunity to play with him as a young player.

Speaker 9 But I was so happy for him, and I'm still so happy for all his success. But, you know, yes, our team was better when he was out there.
There's no question about that.

Speaker 9 But I was happy for his career and his ability to walk away when he wanted to, which I think is such a cool thing.

Speaker 1 Do you have a favorite throw ever?

Speaker 9 No, probably not.

Speaker 1 There might be at least one or two that are up there.

Speaker 9 There's a couple good ones that I can remember that were kind of fun and meaningful. I, in the Dallas game, um,

Speaker 9 back in the day at Detroit, big comeback late in the game. That last two-minute drive, I ended up hitting a rail shot to Chris Durham, who's my college roommate.

Speaker 9 Um, you know, played a few leagues or a few years in the league with me and uh hit him on a long ball down the left side into like a two-tampa coverage, which was a cool shot.

Speaker 9 Um, in London against the Falcons, uh,

Speaker 9 we were down big, and I think it was the touchdown, I think, that got me the

Speaker 9 Career Lions TD mark, passing TD mark. I threw one to Golden Tate that was just a launch.
That was a good one.

Speaker 1 You know, when it's like

Speaker 1 when you're throwing like a deep ball, you know, the second you release, you're like, damn, that I fucking. That's a good one.
I threw the hell out of it. That's a good one.

Speaker 9 Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Well, that was kind of a weird one. They were like, hey, hey, every once in a while, they would just kind of rush three, drop eight.
And I just told GT, I was like, hey, man, just keep running.

Speaker 9 And it was one of those I kind of bought a little bit of time.

Speaker 9 It was third and crazy long, might have been 20, something like that, and hit a long touchdown. Similar to the one I hit Cooper in

Speaker 9 Tampa in the divisional round, right? Like third and 19. They're like, oh, they're just going to check it down.
And that's when you can kind of

Speaker 9 go for the dagger every once in a while. Now you're going to throw a couple picks doing that too, but some touchdowns that get you back in a game or do something big.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That one against Tampa was sick. We also have a co-worker who's the most annoying person in the world who's a diehard Bucks fan.
And You literally snatched the soul out of his body. Which is awesome.

Speaker 1 I love that. That was a crazy, crazy.

Speaker 9 I mean, and honestly, the deep ball to Cooper in that game to put us in field goal range is like,

Speaker 9 as far as a full play, I mean, the situation, the whole thing, that was a really, really special one.

Speaker 1 Weird question for you. Yes.

Speaker 1 First time you ever checked your MX points, how many did you have? This might have been a question from a weirder guy, Dan Orlofsky.

Speaker 9 Oh, gosh. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Orlovsky, did I tell him it's a good question? I don't know. Yeah, he just said that.
I said,

Speaker 9 it's a lot of points. I've never used any.
Let's put it that way. I've never used any points.

Speaker 1 Do you ever use any?

Speaker 9 I don't know. I'm kind of at the point now where I'm like, I don't know if I will.

Speaker 1 So our boss, Dave, he has 60 million points, and he said he will never use them.

Speaker 9 I don't have that many, but.

Speaker 1 So you'll never use them anymore?

Speaker 9 I have a lot. Yeah, I have a lot of points.

Speaker 1 And you're never going to use them. But I don't, no, I don't think so.
Wow. I love that.

Speaker 4 What if somebody wants your points? Like, you're not?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, we could talk about it afterwards if that's what you're doing.

Speaker 4 If you want to sell your points, listen,

Speaker 1 I don't want to say, like, I didn't, I'm a Bears fan, so I obviously the Lions and Bears are playing, but I always was like, I respect the fuck out of Stafford.

Speaker 1 I had the take that you're going to be a Hall of Famer in 2018, and people laughed at me. Well, I appreciate that.
That sounds like it should be worth a few MX.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can put a couple points your way.

Speaker 1 Have you thought of that, though? Like, you are Amex points? No, well, Amex points, but yes, also Hall of Fame. Your career has been phenomenal.

Speaker 1 You are, and my point at the time was: look at his longevity. If he has a deep playoff run, obviously win a Super Bowl.
He's going to be right there.

Speaker 1 And if you look right now, three to four, if you play three or four more years, you're going to be top five passing yards, top 10 touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Have you had a second to look back and be like, damn, like I'm stacking it up here?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, I think I definitely, every year that I play now, I just appreciate so much. And I think back on, I mean, we were just talking about, you know, plays from my rookie year.

Speaker 9 And it's like, man, that was a long, long time ago.

Speaker 9 I walked into a locker room with guys that were six, seven, eight, nine years old when I first came into the league, which is kind of crazy to think about.

Speaker 9 But I definitely appreciate my opportunities and appreciate this game. I mean, it's given me a ton.

Speaker 9 I hope I got three or four more left in me. We'll see.
Every year is a new year, but I do feel good. And as far as the history books and all that kind of stuff, I have so much respect for this game.

Speaker 9 Like, I was the kid that grew up watching NFL films, watching Steve Sable and those guys, voiceover stuff. And I was all in on Johnny Unidas and Slinging Sammy Ball and all the guys, right?

Speaker 9 So I have a ton of respect for this game. And

Speaker 9 just being anywhere near guys like that in that kind of conversation is incredibly humbling and something that,

Speaker 9 you you know, I don't think about it on a day-to-day basis, but when it comes up, man, it's a ton of appreciation for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I had your back. Yeah, I was going back through it today, looking at it, and people are like, no chance.
I was like, dude, he's played so many games. Yeah, you're not appreciated.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's a Super Bowl on top of that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, what, like a million Amex points? Yeah, I can get you that. Okay, all right.

Speaker 4 That actually speaks very highly for Dan Orlovsky. The fact he is a great analyst.
If he knows how many... Amex points you have.
Yeah, the guy's. And you don't even know it.
Yeah, he's a dad.

Speaker 4 It's also very weird that he knows that.

Speaker 9 I'm going to check my password when we leave here just to make sure it's not Orlovsky 8.

Speaker 1 Do you ever tell Dan, like, hey, chill out, man, like you love me a little too much?

Speaker 9 No, I don't. You know, I just accept it all.

Speaker 1 I accept it all.

Speaker 9 Keep bringing it.

Speaker 9 He's the man. I had such a great time.
He's such a good dude. He's such a great guy to be

Speaker 9 a part of a team with. He was a great backup for me and taught me a lot.
So

Speaker 9 I appreciate Dan and

Speaker 9 everything he says.

Speaker 4 Did you get a little bit jealous when he started going hard about Carson Wentz? You're like, oh, no, does he have a chance?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I thought that was kind of fucked up.

Speaker 9 I thought we had it was a trust tree thing and he just decided to turn his back for me.

Speaker 1 He came back. Yeah.

Speaker 4 If you love something, set it free if it returns.

Speaker 9 I mean, you throw a guy MX points, he'll do anything, you know? Yeah. Turn right back around.

Speaker 4 So I pulled up a stat earlier. Since 2011, you have the most fourth quarter comebacks of any quarterback.
Have you considered sucking less in the first three quarters?

Speaker 9 Yeah, you know, I think about it, but that's such a good stat.

Speaker 1 Like, I can't let that go to somebody else.

Speaker 9 Yeah, no. Three, four games a year, you know, just kind of toy around the first three quarters and then figure it out late.
Mr.

Speaker 1 Comeback, yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I got a weird question. Our good friend Tony Scheffler, we know him in Detroit.
When Dave and I beat him two-on-one in his driveway, did anyone in the Lions locker room give him shit for that?

Speaker 9 I don't know that we did, but

Speaker 9 man, how is Tony? Do I have Tony in forever? He is freaking man. He's the best.
I love that guy. He was all-time celebrations guy.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 in Tampa Bay.

Speaker 9 Tampa Bay, the Buccaneer Sword, the Kansas City Chiefs, he had the loincloth.

Speaker 9 He was making the

Speaker 9 smoke signal. He was an all-time celebration guy.
Super fun guy to have a guy. Great dude.

Speaker 1 A Hall of Fame dude.

Speaker 4 Who's your favorite teammate you've ever played with?

Speaker 9 Oh, man.

Speaker 9 That's a good question.

Speaker 9 I got a bunch, man. I think, like, early on, the offensive lineman, the guys that I had, like Dominic Rayola, was a big-time, you know, great teammate, taught me a bunch.

Speaker 4 Also kind of a psycho, but in like a good way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, kid, baller.

Speaker 9 Yeah. I mean, unbelievable, talented quarterback.

Speaker 1 You're his godfather, right?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, he's a stud.

Speaker 9 He's one. Nate Burleson was a great dude to be around, all-time fun guy to be around.
Didn't have that long of a stretch with him.

Speaker 9 Obviously, the guys here, Aaron Donald, Cooper, those guys are unbelievable.

Speaker 4 Do you still eat breakfast with Cooper every morning?

Speaker 9 Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, we sit in there.
We were watching tape this morning a little bit. We were actually watching the 2017 Rams Colts season opener.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 9 Because we wanted to see what the first game, how the offense has evolved since Sean's first game here, calling it to now. It's quite different.
And then we turned on 2018 Rams

Speaker 9 Lions at the Lions and watched me lose the game, which was kind of shitty.

Speaker 4 Wow, that's tough. Are you ever like, hey, can we watch something else besides football?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I think about it all the time, but you know, Cooper would be, that's totally off line.

Speaker 4 That's totally offline. Have there been any other players that are like, you know, trying to kiss up a little bit too much to you and you're like, I want to get in the breakfast club.

Speaker 9 No, you know, it's not even like an exclusive thing. Like, Puka's in there a bunch, too.
Our cafeteria here, I don't know if you guys have been lucky enough to have a meal here.

Speaker 1 We have, it's, uh, it's tight quarters. Is that in there? Tight quarters? Yeah, please.
Okay. Please on me.
On me.

Speaker 9 It's, it's tight quarters in there, so there's not a whole lot of seats and tables. And,

Speaker 9 you know, we're, we're in the process of moving into a new facility. So it just kind of migrated into the QB room because we're always getting notes and stuff from Sean early anyways.

Speaker 9 So it's not some like exclusive closed-door meeting thing. Everybody passes through and said, what's up?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Going back to last year's playoffs,

Speaker 1 how tough was it to go back to Detroit? And like, I know, obviously, you have that history.

Speaker 1 All your daughters were born there. Was it a moment where it's like, man, this is going to be difficult? Even though we got to go play a game,

Speaker 1 there's just more energy to it.

Speaker 9 Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 9 It definitely was.

Speaker 9 I would be not human if I wasn't feeling some of those emotions, even like the week of practice, thinking about it, you know, and talking to people that,

Speaker 9 you know, meant a lot to me in my life and in my career that still live in Detroit and are a big part of the community there. So it definitely was,

Speaker 9 you know, kind of, it meant a lot. It was tough.
And then when I walked into the stadium, I definitely felt it. But once the ball was sat, man, it was time to go.
I was just trying to

Speaker 9 throw for as many yards I possibly could, throw score as many touchdowns and beat the hell out of him. It didn't go down that way, but that's all I was trying to do.

Speaker 1 Don't worry, we gave Sean a ton of shit for punting. Okay, good.

Speaker 1 So he'll never do that again just because we shamed him.

Speaker 9 We're going to go for every fourth down the show. Yeah, it was fourth and 14.

Speaker 1 Let's go. That's Stafford Zone.

Speaker 4 Were you surprised at the welcome that you got in Detroit?

Speaker 9 No. Honestly, I was,

Speaker 9 I know what kind of fans they are. And like, honestly, I totally understand it.
I get it. They're going to want to do everything they can to make my life as uncomfortable as possible.

Speaker 9 They haven't had a playoff game there in 30 years. So they're going to be jazzed up for whatever.
And the fact that it was me, I mean, and our team, I'm sure it was even more so.

Speaker 9 That was honestly one of the best atmospheres I've ever played a football game in. Sean and I talk about it all the time, man.
It was incredibly loud.

Speaker 9 It was, we came up for warm-ups, and there was not an empty seat. Yeah.
Yeah. And I mean, it was go time from the second we first stepped out of the tunnel.
So it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 9 It was a great game.

Speaker 4 Were you rooting for them after they won?

Speaker 9 No, I'm not rooting for anybody at that point. Yeah.
I have a couple teammates that I wanted to, like ex-teammates that I really wanted to see play well and they did.

Speaker 9 But at that point, I wish everybody could lose.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like that that's good yeah i like that do you watch the playoffs sometimes you know it's it's hard yeah um

Speaker 9 you know i'll peek it but i'm not uh i'm not like invested being like oh that'll be a good matchup next week i'm like f this i want to be out there yeah right yeah so after you win a super bowl though it's probably got to take does it take a little bit of this thing out of losing the playoffs i think uh it's almost the opposite in the fact that like i know what that feels like now you know i've got the i've got the losing in the first round i got that one locked up i know what that one feels like only gotten one taste at the super bowl and i'm like like, man, I want to do that.

Speaker 9 And when you get those opportunities, I've had so many years where we didn't have that opportunity at all to play in the playoffs that when you get,

Speaker 9 you know, the opportunity, you're really close. You know, I mean, like the fact that, you know, Detroit did what they did after they beat us, man.
If we win that game, who knows what happens?

Speaker 9 So it's, um, I, it makes it, you know, almost even harder, to be honest.

Speaker 4 You're chasing the dragon. Yeah.
Another parade. Yeah.
You had fun at the parade.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I was going to ask.

Speaker 1 I was going to ask me.

Speaker 4 I was going to ask if you remembered thinking that you were in St. Louis during the parade, but you you probably don't remember anything.

Speaker 4 Did you say, like, what's up, St.

Speaker 1 Louis?

Speaker 9 No, I don't know. I was having a good time.
That one was an early start, limited breakfast, all the good recipe for a tough day, but you know what? We had a good time. We enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 From a fan's perspective, when guys get super drunk at the championship parade, it's the best.

Speaker 1 It's like that's what you should do.

Speaker 9 I know, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I always kind of felt bad about it.

Speaker 9 And Kelly's like, what are you talking about? That's what exactly. You've been playing this game for forever, getting your ass kicked.
Like, you deserve to do whatever you want.

Speaker 9 And I was like, yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, have fun. Yeah.
Uh, speaking of your wife, by the way, are you nervous that she and Jersey Jerry have DM'd before?

Speaker 1 Uh, yeah, I guess, I guess I am.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I am.

Speaker 1 Uh, she's gonna end up playing Madden with him. Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 And she's also, he's also gonna find a way to get like all your signed memorabilia from your house. Oh, perfect.

Speaker 9 When it goes missing, I'll know where to look. Uh, yeah, I uh, I have no idea.
Social media is a monster that is lost on me.

Speaker 1 I'll do you a favor. I'll watch Jerry for you.
Thank you. I'll make sure.
Because if there's like some weird Stafford cleats showing up at the office, I'm like, where'd that come from? Ship him back.

Speaker 4 He's definitely going to say like, hey,

Speaker 4 can you grab me a signed Jersey? My son's a big Matt Stafford.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, right. Yeah, make it out.

Speaker 4 His name's also Jersey Jerry.

Speaker 4 You can autograph that to him.

Speaker 1 He DMs a lot of... players, players' wives, players' moms, so at least that you have to be able to

Speaker 1 get out of this thing.

Speaker 4 Actually, you'd be lucky if it was her sending you your shoes. He's probably going to ask for her shoes.
Yeah, that's what you got to watch out for.

Speaker 1 You don't want size six.

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Speaker 1 I have a question that's totally not written and sent to me by someone else.

Speaker 1 Here it goes. I thought for sure you would have recruited your brother-in-law here by now to take over as QB coach or OC.
He is known as the best wide receiver coach in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't even know who that is.

Speaker 9 No, Chad's the man. I'll tell you what, I'm not quite at the LeBron status where I just get to, you know, bring and hire whoever I want.
But Chad is the man.

Speaker 9 I used to throw to him all the time in the offseason, too. He was like my receiver back in the day.
But yeah, I mean, we've been trying to get him out here some way, somehow.

Speaker 9 He would go great in California with the blonde flow.

Speaker 1 I mean, Sean just hired his best friend from college. That's true.

Speaker 1 I don't think the coaching hires.

Speaker 9 If Chad could still run a route, I could maybe get him a tryout as a receiver. But no, it's really cool to watch his career and their family grow.
It's been cool. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 So just remember the name, Chad Hall. He's going to be a head coach.
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 4 He's known as the best wide receiver coach. That is what I.

Speaker 1 He procted out in Buffalo there for a long time.

Speaker 9 Yeah. And he's crushing it in Jacksonville now.
So he does a good job.

Speaker 4 And that's not from him.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 I read that off. That's from a different guy.
Top my head. Yeah.
That's in it over. Well done.

Speaker 4 So what are we thinking for this year? How are we looking to camp? I know that coach told you guys not to fight, right? Yeah. Have you fought anybody?

Speaker 9 Have you you wanted to i have a theory that the new guardian the caps that they wear the soft ones yeah people are taking them off and swinging them at people more because they're softer well i saw some uh some clips from what detroit and uh new york the other day they were fighting pretty good and dudes were just smacking each other in the gardening cap but i guess yeah it doesn't uh doesn't hurt your hands as much i have not fought anybody haven't had the urge to yet i'm usually just too tired of practice to even think about fighting um but uh no we've been we've we've kept the chippiness down which is good camp's been good um a couple guys dinged up which is like

Speaker 9 the worst, you know, for those guys. I feel so bad for them.
You're trying to kind of come together, but I feel good about this year.

Speaker 4 So, as a veteran of the NFL for as many years as you played in it, I imagine that going to camp every year in the middle of the summer, you're like, it's probably not a great feeling, but also something you have to do, something to learn.

Speaker 4 Like, are you actually doing different things this year than you've done in the past?

Speaker 9 No, I mean, it's pretty standard for me.

Speaker 9 I had one like vet off day, the first day of pads

Speaker 9 this year. That was kind of like the only thing I've had that's been different than anybody else.

Speaker 9 That was something that we kind of knew going into camp that I was going to do. But no, I mean, it is, you know, late July every year.

Speaker 9 You just, you know, buckle your chin strap and get ready for a six, eight month grind. And

Speaker 9 this is the start of it. I know training camp has changed so much when I first got in the league.
I was part of the old CBA. I mean, we were going two, three a day, full pads.

Speaker 9 I mean, just beating each other up for weeks on weeks. And it's definitely

Speaker 9 more player-friendly now. But I also think it's just a better way to do it.
You know, I think we're getting better work out of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So speaking of camp, how fast last year were you like, oh, Pukunaku is a dude?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, Coop was out last year pretty quickly with a hamstring, and we lost him. And,

Speaker 9 yeah, I mean, you could kind of feel it. You know, just physical, like, it was always going to take time.
You're a rookie, right?

Speaker 9 Like, it's going to take time to keep understanding, but it was a testament to him to be able to kind of learn on the go.

Speaker 9 You know, a lot of people people need a full year to kind of just learn and then go, and he was able to do it all in one.

Speaker 9 Physical tools are there. I mean, big, strong, physical.

Speaker 9 You know, so much of his yardage last year was like hidden yardage right after the catch. And that's stuff you can't really teach.
You just kind of let him be himself.

Speaker 9 And that's a pretty darn good player. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So go ahead.

Speaker 4 I was going to say on the college front,

Speaker 4 do you call the dogs?

Speaker 1 Do I call the dogs? Can you

Speaker 1 fan? Oh, like Georgia thing? They call on all the dogs. They start barking at people.

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah. No, I'm not like a, yeah.
You know what? I actually get wildly uncomfortable when people like bark at me or be like, I'll be walking down the street. Like, go dogs.
And I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 9 I don't ever give them the go dogs back. It just doesn't sit right with me.
Yeah. I don't know why.

Speaker 4 It's definitely a player fan disconnect. I agree.
We'll see like videos on flights like going across the country to a Georgia, like a road game or a bull game.

Speaker 4 And there'll be guys just like jam-packed on Southwest Airlines, just barking at the pilot when he gets on. He's like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 Go dogs. Screaming at me.

Speaker 9 And I'm like, guys, thanks.

Speaker 1 You got to start barking back.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I need to. Just a little bark.
I know. I need to.
My wife's from Georgia, so, like,

Speaker 9 I got to make her proud.

Speaker 1 What was your favorite game at Georgia or your least favorite game?

Speaker 9 Favorite game at Georgia,

Speaker 9 probably two. We had the Blackout versus Auburn, my sophomore year, which was the first time we ever wore a black jersey, which was sweet.
We had a great game.

Speaker 9 Keelyn Johnson, I believe, was a pick on the first play, which was awesome.

Speaker 9 And then Sugar Bowl that year in Hawaii against Hawaii was really cool. Felt like we should have been in the national championship game there.

Speaker 9 That year, we kind of got jumped because we didn't go to the SC championship. But went to New Orleans, had a good time in New Orleans, and

Speaker 9 beat up on Hawaii. So that was a good one.

Speaker 9 Least favorite game, probably

Speaker 9 at Kentucky, my freshman year. Got my helmet ripped off on a run, QB run on third down, kept running.

Speaker 9 Smashed in the forehead, nose cut, the whole thing. And we lost.

Speaker 9 So I had the loss and just a mauled face for a couple weeks, which is a tough one.

Speaker 4 It probably looked pretty sweet, though, when it happened.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, I don't remember it that way, but as a fan, yeah, you probably thought it was sweet.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because I've seen, you seem to take a, how should I put that, a less physical approach to the game sometimes. I've seen you out in space as like a lead blocker on a reverse.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Your blocking is, it's something to watch. Yeah, it is.
You kind of like kind of get in the way. Yeah.
But then also kind of get out of the way.

Speaker 9 Nowadays, I'm just talking to the defenders. Hey, man, hey, man, easy up, easy up, don't hit me.
You know, I'm just trying to like, you know, get out of the way safely.

Speaker 9 Yeah, but earlier in my, in my career, yeah, I mean, I uh

Speaker 9 I liked the physical part of the game a little bit more than I do now. That's there's no question.

Speaker 4 Yeah, in the uh that game against Detroit, they beat you up pretty good. Yeah, you got knocked around a little bit.
Are you getting do you get mad in the games?

Speaker 4 Like when you have that adrenaline surge like you did in Rookie Year, what we talked about, like, are you mad? Are you mad that they're hitting you like that?

Speaker 9 No, I uh it kind of it kind of fires me up a little bit. You know, like there's only two ways for you to go react as a player, right?

Speaker 9 Like, you're gonna either like wilt and go sit sit on the sideline and be intimidated by getting hit, or you got to charge yourself up and be like, keep bringing it.

Speaker 9 And I think the first, one of the early third downs of the game, I threw one to DeMarcus Robinson and smashed my hand on the helmet and got hit and hurt like hell.

Speaker 9 But the only thing I knew how to do was just act like it didn't and, you know, scream back at those dudes and get myself fired up. That's grit.

Speaker 1 How far can you throw the ball still?

Speaker 9 Still? Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 9 And maybe what was your point?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I don't do it much anymore.

Speaker 9 In high school, we went to the Elite 11 camp. I threw one in 78.
That was like the longest I ever tried and threw it.

Speaker 1 I read a story that you went to the Manning Passing Academy.

Speaker 1 When you were on the Manning Cats, maybe they told the story that

Speaker 1 Eli and Payton were like, we don't want to throw after Stafford when you were like 17 years old because you were just hucking it everywhere.

Speaker 9 Yeah, back in the day, the arm was live. It was live back in the day, taking a couple of hits, hurt a couple things here and there.
But no, I can still get it out there a little bit.

Speaker 9 I couldn't even tell you, to be honest with you it's probably starts with a six instead of a seven like it used to but it's probably a high six number that's still do guys not like catching your balls like when they come over from a different team are they like this guy it hurts used to be that way used to be when i was young and i didn't really know what i was looking at everything was coming out as hard as i could and uh i was i was trying to hurt people with it now i'm trying to help them catch it which is better for the completion percentage people don't give matt stafford enough credit for your arm yeah well i uh i don't know it's it's whatever it is still anymore but uh back in the the day, I could throw it around a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Did you ever play baseball?

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 4 Were you on anyone's team?

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 Kind of like you got a live arm.

Speaker 9 It was a one-man show alone.

Speaker 1 Did you have the best arm on your team?

Speaker 9 No. Oh.

Speaker 1 No. Who did? That's crazy.

Speaker 4 Jake Felt.

Speaker 1 I just picked another teammate. Jake Felt.
Shout out, Jake. He's just Jake, man.
He's sitting right now. He's like, fuck you.

Speaker 1 That's exactly what we needed

Speaker 1 to talk to. Yeah.
A guy that nobody talks about.

Speaker 4 Jake Felt.

Speaker 9 Jake Felt. I'll tell you what.
He was eighth grade. You know, this guy was shaving in the eighth grade.
He was an unbelievable stud.

Speaker 9 We'd go to tournaments. He was winning MVP, hitting bombs.
Hell yes. Launching it.

Speaker 9 Get that. Matt Stafford and Jake Felton.

Speaker 1 Jake Felt. Best it never was.
Jake Felt. I don't understand how people don't know that.

Speaker 9 But fun fact about Jake Felt, five touchdowns in the state championship game. Texas high school record.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Jake Felt, legend.

Speaker 9 Jake Felt, legend.

Speaker 4 And he caught, who threw those?

Speaker 9 Zero throws.

Speaker 1 Oh, so. How about that? What? Yeah.

Speaker 9 They were playing a lot of two-deep show. We were handed off, Coach.

Speaker 1 Take what you give me. You were just running with it? Running with it.

Speaker 9 Caught a pass from a receiver on a double reverse pass to a receiver. Won 59-0.
It was kind of like a.

Speaker 1 Jerry's World?

Speaker 9 No, back in the day, Tyler Rose Stadium.

Speaker 4 Jake Felt. Jake Felt was a problem.

Speaker 1 We're going to just start saying that. Like, who's the best to come out of Highland Park by Jake Felt?

Speaker 1 Ever heard Jake Felt? Yeah. He's going to be fired up.
Good for you, man. Deep cut.
Good for you, man.

Speaker 1 We got to have Jake Felt. When was the last time you talked to Jake Fell? I talked to Jake a decent amount.
Oh, okay. All right.
All right. Cool.
Love that.

Speaker 4 You got to have him on the pod at some point. Yeah, we got to go.

Speaker 1 We actually are

Speaker 9 going to invite. Yeah, we're going to track him down.

Speaker 1 We're going to invite you to Jake Fell. That rocks.
We're just going to be.

Speaker 4 So what's in store for this year? Prediction.

Speaker 1 Record? Yeah.

Speaker 9 I don't do that. We're going to try to win a whole lot more than we do

Speaker 9 lose. But no, it's.

Speaker 9 It's so much fun to get out there and do it, man. I honestly do have a ton of fun with it.
But as far as predicting the record, I got no idea for you. We'll see.
Every year is a

Speaker 9 brand new year. If you would have told me last year we're going to be three and six at the bio, I would have told you you were crazy because I thought we were playing really good.

Speaker 9 And then if I told you, you know, we're going to win seven and one, we're going to go seven and one after that, you would have told me I'm crazy. So, you know, it's just got to go out there and play.

Speaker 9 I mean, that's the cool and amazing part about NFL football is, you know, you kind of go into the season, you kind of know Georgia is going to be good.

Speaker 9 You kind of know Ohio State and those teams are going to be, you know, the big-time powerhouses. And then you come into the NFL, you're like, man, who knows?

Speaker 9 Nobody had the Houston Texans doing what they did last year. So got to go out there and improve it every single year.

Speaker 4 How awesome was it at the end of the game against the Commanders last year where Ron Rivera ran like nine plays inside the two-yard line?

Speaker 4 I mean, he took like four minutes off the clock and didn't score a fucking point off it.

Speaker 1 Are you bitter about that?

Speaker 4 No, actually, I was at the time. I was very angry at the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But because we lost that game, we drafted Jaden Danis.

Speaker 9 I think he's awesome. Yeah.
He's super fun to watch. At least he was in college.

Speaker 9 And then an old backup of mine is a QB coach there too, David Blau. Shout out to David Blau.
He did some good things for him.

Speaker 1 Love it. David Blau, Purdue?

Speaker 9 Purdue, Boilermaker. His wife ran the 400-meter hurdles

Speaker 9 when he was with the Lions. They did the whole deal.
The team watched it. I don't think she ran this year, but

Speaker 1 yeah. Old David Blau's QB coach.
Yeah, that. Yeah.
All right. So no predictions, but dream career, how many more years are you playing?

Speaker 9 I don't know, man. I feel really good and healthy right now.

Speaker 9 That's a really good cliche answer.

Speaker 1 No, No, but I would say this.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, I'm full of them.

Speaker 1 I've been doing this for a long time.

Speaker 9 But no, I do think that

Speaker 9 there's no possible way I could tell you that answer right now because at the end of last year, I was like completely worn out and zapped, right?

Speaker 9 And then it takes me forever to kind of just get like charged up to go again.

Speaker 9 And what I put myself through, like physically, emotionally, and mentally, all that stuff for a football season, it takes a lot out.

Speaker 9 And I got an awesome family that I love being around.

Speaker 1 So I don't know.

Speaker 9 I know I'm going to enjoy this year. Hopefully I'm back next year playing.
Hopefully I'm back the year after that playing, but I can't. I can't.

Speaker 1 Do you feel great right now? I do. I feel great.
That's all that matters.

Speaker 9 I do. Honestly, like, elbow was shit a couple years ago.
It feels great now. There's a lot of me that is kind of revamped and feels a lot better.
So I feel good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it felt like when you were going through your elbow injury, when you were trying to gut it out for a little bit, like you had some weird games where

Speaker 1 you had to like throw it weird.

Speaker 9 I was in a bad spot. Yeah.
Really, you know, that elbow started all the whole 21 season.

Speaker 9 I started wearing that sleeve because I was like taping myself underneath my sleeve just to keep the elbow going. I heard it in camp that year and was able to get through that.

Speaker 9 And then we tried to do some things to help it fix. And I had

Speaker 9 22 was tough as far as the ability to go out there and execute. So it feels great.
Last year felt great. Feels good again.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Are you like us as fans? Like if you have a bad game, do you just try to avoid any sort of media coverage whatsoever? And you're like, I don't want to listen to anything. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't want someone to accidentally bring the game up. Then I have to listen to their dumbass take about it.

Speaker 4 Because as fans, we we avoid the media like the plague on Monday, Tuesday, probably Wednesday, even Thursday. Then we'll get back to those.

Speaker 4 I don't want to accidentally catch any strays about like flashing back to that game.

Speaker 9 Yeah, no, I mean,

Speaker 9 at that point, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I mean, I'm like so moved on to the next game.

Speaker 9 Obviously, I'm trying to figure out what the hell went wrong in the last game if we had a bad one or I had a bad one. All right, let's, how do we fix it?

Speaker 9 And if you're not thinking about the next opponent Monday or Tuesday, like you're way behind. So

Speaker 9 that's where my focus goes. And I don't really do a whole lot of watching or listening to a lot of like, you know, sports talk or any of that kind of stuff during the season.

Speaker 4 Stephen A. Smith doesn't enter your head at all.

Speaker 1 No, Stephen A.

Speaker 9 is not

Speaker 9 there. He doesn't have any space up here.

Speaker 1 Hey, who would have won the fight between Jim Schwartz and Jim Harbaugh? Harbaugh.

Speaker 9 Man, that's a great throwback.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 One of our first. I mean, like, Harbaugh was already like de-robing.
He was ready to shirt off.

Speaker 1 He was ready to throw down.

Speaker 9 So, I mean, like, that's an early advantage. You know, we weren't going going to be able to hockey, pull the shirt over and go.
But, no, that would have been a good one to watch.

Speaker 9 It would have been a really interesting one to see.

Speaker 9 That escalated quickly,

Speaker 9 as we like to say. But,

Speaker 1 man,

Speaker 9 I got to go with my guy that drafted me, Schwartz. Yeah.
You know, he's a really sharp dude. He probably would have found

Speaker 9 an interesting way to win that one.

Speaker 4 I think you would have had to kill Harbaugh.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because Harbaugh is dead. Yeah,

Speaker 9 that's fair. That's a fair point.

Speaker 1 Did you ever tell Coach Schwartz that his nipples were showing? Because he always had fuck hard nipples.

Speaker 9 You know, that never came up. Okay.
You know, you would think it wasn't. I saw it.

Speaker 1 No, it never came up.

Speaker 1 It was just always. I don't know what it was.
I think he was just so excited to coach football. Yeah, I think he just gets geared up for it, man.

Speaker 9 Just have that polo. Whatever does it tucked in.

Speaker 9 Like, damn.

Speaker 4 Have you noticed Coach McVay's beard's a little bit fuller?

Speaker 9 Yeah,

Speaker 9 I think he's always got a great beard. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is it all natural? Oh, is that what you guys are having? Yeah, is he on the gear?

Speaker 9 I don't know, man. He might be.

Speaker 9 I'll have to get back to you guys on that one.

Speaker 1 He's affirming he is. He got firm.
We got out of him.

Speaker 4 Hair shot into his face. Yeah.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 That's a thing, huh?

Speaker 4 To thicken it out.

Speaker 1 Let him know he's not eligible for the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I will. Yeah.
Asterisks.

Speaker 1 Asterisk. He's juiced.
He's juicy.

Speaker 1 Asterisks.

Speaker 4 Have you thought about, by the way, going to the Hall of Fame, who you would want to give your introduction speech?

Speaker 9 Oh, man. No, that's way too

Speaker 9 preemptive. Yeah, I mean, I...

Speaker 1 It was 2018. I was.

Speaker 9 No, I can't think of anybody.

Speaker 1 No, I have no idea.

Speaker 9 I wouldn't even want to speculate on something like that right now. Do you think about bad luck?

Speaker 1 Do you think about dying your beard?

Speaker 9 No.

Speaker 9 I'm full, like,

Speaker 9 whatever happens, happens. Yeah.
Gray situation. I feel like it's to battle it.
It's like, you know what? I got four daughters. No shit.
You got a gray beard. Yes.

Speaker 9 You know, I mean, I think that comes with the territory.

Speaker 1 I get shamed for it all the time. People just point it out.
Make it look good.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 It's crazy that you got four daughters. Yeah.
And there's only two parents. Yeah, right.
So who watches the other two? Yeah, nobody.

Speaker 1 Just kind of figure out. Free range.
Yeah. The old one

Speaker 9 tag team, you know, they kind of come out, come in, come out, come in. We just hope we don't lose them.

Speaker 4 When was the last time you got a full night's sleep?

Speaker 9 Actually, last night, my kids are actually vacation at the beach right now. So it's a beautiful night's sleep.
That's why I look so rested.

Speaker 4 Yes. Good stuff.
Thanks for saying that.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Matthew, this has been awesome.
I got one last question. Chevy question.
Go to Chevy.com. Silverado, toughest truck out there.

Speaker 1 This might be a weird one. You might not even have any idea who these people are.

Speaker 1 Were Were you ever in the same room, or do you aware of Superfan in Detroit Don, two legends of the season ticket holding community in Detroit?

Speaker 9 Is that

Speaker 1 Crackman, Crackman, or whatever his name is? No, no. They had a famous video where they got kicked out and they did like a press conference from like an alley.

Speaker 9 I don't know that one.

Speaker 1 I don't know that one. All-time video.
They need to check that out. They gave that to me.
Let me know. Yeah, I'll say.

Speaker 4 The end zone.

Speaker 1 They're the best. So I went,

Speaker 1 I went for the MAC championship.

Speaker 1 it was like i don't know like 10 years ago 11 years ago and they said when they got kicked out they said where their season tickets were so i went and bought tickets i'm a bears fan i hate the packers you guys were playing the packers yeah went to the game sat and watched the game with them dressed up everything no

Speaker 1 it was the aaron rods hail married game that was a tough game right in their face they were sitting there telling me that they were i don't i don't remember what your guys record was at the time we had we had just won the thursday night game before that or the thanksgiving day before that i think we missed the playoffs that year by one game yeah because they were doing the math they're like once we we win this game, we're going to win the next one.

Speaker 1 And then, boom, right in their face. No one hurt.

Speaker 9 Phantom face mask. Yep.

Speaker 1 That's when Aaron Ryan, he gets away with that shit.

Speaker 9 Yeah, well, you know what? He was in jail. It was a nice toss.
It was a nice toss. I think we were in a tough, tough defense.

Speaker 9 I think we had Ziggy Ansa guarding the sideline at that point, which didn't make.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably not the most sense. But Detroit Dodd and Superfan, they're big fans.
They appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 What like the crazy Detroit fans are. We had Superfan on the show when the Lions made it to the playoffs just to get his reaction.

Speaker 1 And he said that there was a woman who sat next to him named Sprinkles who

Speaker 1 said, What's that? 2017. She's like, I'm never coming to another game until they make it to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And then they saw her at the playoff game. She showed up.
True to her word.

Speaker 1 What a lady, Sprinkles.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you know, I think she dressed like a clown.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they thought she had died. Yeah.
And they're like, what? Sprinkles. She was alive.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So they brought her back to life.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Incredible.

Speaker 9 Yes. Good for them.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But, Matthew, thank you so much. Best of luck this year.
Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Future hall of famer future giver of amex points to me yeah former teammate of jake felt jake jake felt legend yeah and to chaffler our guy and uh we'll watch jersey jerry because again appreciate it that's i need a little oversight there the minute you see that name i i don't even know what that conversation is like i don't want to like hey i talked to this guy jersey jerry i'll uh i'll ask that's yeah we got to shut that down perfect i like that sounds man thanks for having me on guys appreciate it yep

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 time for Mount Rushmore. Before we do that, we did promise that we would tell the Huey story after the Matthew Stafford interview.

Speaker 1 Huey, obviously, big Lions fan.

Speaker 1 He went up to Matthew Stafford and he said,

Speaker 1 not, hey, Matthew Stafford, I'm a huge Lions fan, or thank you for being the quarterback on my favorite team.

Speaker 1 He went up to Matthew Stafford and he said, hey, Matthew Stafford, you're the first person I ever saw get drafted.

Speaker 1 I still don't really understand what that means. And then we asked you, and he's like, well, I was nine.
It was the first draft I watched. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So you don't remember any players ever getting drafted.

Speaker 1 You don't remember Calvin Johnson.

Speaker 4 How old were you?

Speaker 4 I didn't watch it live.

Speaker 1 He literally just saying physically he remembers

Speaker 1 he didn't watch the draft before. Where were you?

Speaker 4 Where were you when Matthew Stafford got drafted? On the couch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, nice.

Speaker 1 First one. First player I ever remember getting drafted.
Yeah. Did you watch the draft the year after?

Speaker 4 Yeah, was it Sue? Sue and the

Speaker 1 I don't know. Oh, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Was it?

Speaker 4 I thought it was. The Sam Bradford draft.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mike. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. That sounds right.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 That's what got me into the draft. I got super into all the drafts and got me into football.
But like, the first season I ever watched was the 0-16 season.

Speaker 1 Okay. So, I watched every game.

Speaker 4 So, the draft was your biggest game.

Speaker 1 Okay, that makes more sense.

Speaker 4 And then, like, I kind of didn't know

Speaker 4 how the draft worked.

Speaker 1 And then, like, the week of the draft, I kind of figured it out. And I was like, oh, okay.
We're out first. And then

Speaker 1 the first bit against not a snake.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But, like, I'll be sick if it was. It would be.

Speaker 4 I assumed like Stafford was going to be like a god, like, day one.

Speaker 1 Like, all right, we're set. Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 And so that was weird when you had to deal with all that.

Speaker 4 But Huey, who was your favorite person to watch get drafted?

Speaker 4 Oh, it was Nadamikin Sue. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It wasn't the year after. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because you knew what the draft was. You were ready for that draft vet.

Speaker 1 You were draft vet. Yeah.
I've been through it before at that point. I was so excited for that guy.

Speaker 1 Stafford's face when you said that, he was just like, what? He didn't. But he laughed.
He was like, oh, okay. Yeah.
All right. I haven't heard that one before.

Speaker 1 He probably has so many Lions fans that have gone gone up to him in his career. Right.
And never once has somebody said that to him. You can see this person I saw get drafted.
Like, that's impressive.

Speaker 1 That's impressive.

Speaker 1 That's true. He's not going to forget that one.
No, he definitely will not.

Speaker 4 I love that because you're going up to one of your athletic heroes and being like, let me tell you about when I saw you on TV one time. Yeah.
It meant a lot to me to see you on my television. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Get your name called.

Speaker 4 I was getting emotional in the corner when you guys started to talk about the playoff game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And

Speaker 4 him getting his ass kicked in Detroit. Like, that was.

Speaker 1 It was very cool hearing both him and Sean McVay.

Speaker 4 Obviously, it's different with Stafford because of the time that he spent there, but how much they

Speaker 4 loved that stadium in that environment. How cool they thought it was.

Speaker 1 And Stafford was, I mean, we've been trying to get Stafford on forever, and it did not disappoint. Just a fucking great dude.
Yeah, he's like, awesome dude. Had a lot of fun talking to him.

Speaker 1 Hope everyone enjoyed the interview. Okay.

Speaker 1 Mount Rushmore time. So, what is the score?

Speaker 1 Do we have it? I can pull it up. Pull it up.
That was was a good one. I'm in first.
There's a slight little bit of controversy, maybe?

Speaker 4 No, there's no controversy, really. Hank broke the rules.

Speaker 1 Yellow, yellow, yellow really set this thing off. Feels like we're back into Mount Rushmore season.
Yeah, I saw a lot of pictures of yellow cheese. Thank you, everyone, for having my back.

Speaker 1 What? Wait.

Speaker 1 Yellow cheese.

Speaker 1 That wasn't what you said. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You saw no pictures of the picture.

Speaker 1 I saw a lot of cheese.

Speaker 4 Wait, Hank, all the pictures that people were sending you and me and Big Big Cat and Max, you thought that those were yellow pictures of Pepper? They were sending that to you for yellow-ish.

Speaker 1 Get ready to get tortured, buddy.

Speaker 1 Get ready to get tortured.

Speaker 4 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Just this. Why? I don't think you're equipped.
Your brain's equipped right now. Oh, I'm ready to go.
Okay. So you cheated.
This one. Yeah, but you cheated.
I have the scores, by the way.

Speaker 1 Okay, give us the scores. I mean, I came in dead last.
It didn't matter, but I still don't know. But you still cheat.

Speaker 1 I didn't. I did not.
You did cheat. The rule is you're not supposed to tip your picks beforehand.
The first tweet I saw from you on Friday morning was cold play Yellow. That was a coincidence.

Speaker 4 You also had a picture of SpongeBob.

Speaker 1 These are your rules, Mike. SpongeBob and Pikachu.
And you created

Speaker 1 you guys were

Speaker 1 flipping out. Yeah, Hank, you retweeted.
I created the rules.

Speaker 4 I didn't break them. You retweeted the Mount Rushmore, and you're not allowed to do that.
I do that every

Speaker 1 fucking show. You know, you can't retweet the poll until you code for Teams.

Speaker 4 No, you don't retweet.

Speaker 1 No, you don't retweet. Very different.
Yes, I do.

Speaker 1 You

Speaker 1 broke the rules on Mount Rushmore season, which we hold very near and dear. And that's what you do.
You've shown it time and time again that you break the rules.

Speaker 4 You don't care about the integrity of Mount Rushmore season.

Speaker 1 How about minus one point?

Speaker 1 Him and PFT tied. I think that's fair.
No.

Speaker 4 Tied for last? Hank, when I broke the rules last year,

Speaker 1 you actually broke the rules.

Speaker 4 What was the punishment that you had? I forget.

Speaker 1 You were the first one to break the rules. Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 We need

Speaker 1 the commissioner of Rushmore to.

Speaker 1 You broke the rules of Mount Rushmore way back in the day. He broke the rules, but he also came in last.
Yeah, he came in last. The pizza drafts, you broke the rules.

Speaker 1 Came in last, so it doesn't matter. Of what?

Speaker 1 This yellow.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but this is a pattern. That's what we're saying.
You

Speaker 1 know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Flagrantly disrespecting Mount Rushmore season and the intention

Speaker 1 draft. Got it.
All right, so what do you want to do? I'll just entire nothing. All right, good.
I don't want to be entire. You would be in last.

Speaker 1 I did see that clip of the pizza draft, which I had forgot. I had memory-hold some of it because you've put so much blame on us for ruining Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 4 We seem like the bad guys.

Speaker 1 And I forgot in that clip that before we admitted that we threw that draft, you admitted that you had someone else make all the picks for you. Liam.
Yeah. Not you.
Which is illegal.

Speaker 4 Oh, it's not. He wasn't on your team.

Speaker 1 You don't ask people for.

Speaker 1 No. Yeah, you do.
What are you talking about? Yeah, what? And Liam made your list of people.

Speaker 4 Wait, how many.

Speaker 1 Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah. You ask people for help? No, but I'm sure you guys do.
No. What?

Speaker 1 It's not. We're not doing rocket science.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was just curious. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. So Mount Rushmore

Speaker 1 of steroid users, alleged. We'll put a legit in for, but a lot, most of these people.
Do you want the score? I got the score.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. Hank, did you ask anybody for help in this draft?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did.

Speaker 4 Billy Football?

Speaker 1 Oh. He could be a pick.

Speaker 1 He could be a pick. He could be a pick.

Speaker 1 All right, here's the scores. Max, first, 53.

Speaker 1 You don't have to say it like that. Big Cat, second, 44.
Hank, third, 37. Ooh.
PFT last, 36. And we have nine Mt.
Rushmores left. Is that it?

Speaker 4 Hank out last place. I got first place in the last one.
But memes, we need to figure out what the punishment is.

Speaker 1 This is, so we have nine Mount Rushmores left. Because I believe we end it before the Labor Day is the last one.

Speaker 1 It's going to get tight, boys.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Memes?

Speaker 4 I don't think Hank should be punished.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no punishment. I think he should just be...
You should give him a warning, though. All right, you get one warning.
There we go.

Speaker 1 Thanks for maybe another warning. But I wanted a documented warning.
So when people look back at this summer's Mount Rushmore, it says the final scores, but then it says Hank received one warning.

Speaker 1 Actually, I'll fine him. I'll find him.

Speaker 4 Mimes, could you put that in writing?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 A written warning?

Speaker 7 I'll give him a fine, $1,000 to the commissioner.

Speaker 1 When people look back at the history of Pardon My Take and they go through every Mount Rushmore season, it should say Hank one warning.

Speaker 1 Do you agree?

Speaker 1 couldn't say that. I would love to tweet that about Rushdale War.
Yeah, the yellow cold play, though.

Speaker 4 We've never done that before.

Speaker 1 I wasn't tweeting it. That wasn't tipping a pick that way.
No, but you can't read it. Oh, you just happened to tweet your pick that morning.
Yeah, it was just a video. I mean, we could play that game.

Speaker 1 You made this rule because we have bigger followings, and we could play this game.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 we play by the rules. Like, if I just tweeted out my pick in the morning, everyone would be like, oh, I'm going to go vote for that.
Oh, what you say. You allege that.

Speaker 1 I guess. You do.
The whole reason we have the rule is because you're like, the listeners will vote for PFD and Big Cat over anyone else, so we can't let them know.

Speaker 4 And then you went and did that. It's almost like you did it intentionally.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's almost like you want to get kicked out of Mount Rushmore. No, I guess that was a mistake.
I wasn't really thinking that thoroughly about it, but that, I guess, by the letter of the law was wrong.

Speaker 1 Your laws.

Speaker 4 What do you mean you weren't thinking that thoroughly? These are all points that you've said to us.

Speaker 1 You've made these laws on us. Yeah, just like, I wasn't tweeting it about Mount Rushmore.
It was a great song.

Speaker 1 I got reminded of it when I made the great pick, and then I was like, oh, it's a great song. Let me tweet it out.
It's not that good.

Speaker 1 Share it with my friends.

Speaker 4 Not that, not in the last one.

Speaker 1 You came in last. It's not Melt Rushmore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the anime freaks didn't show up.

Speaker 1 Shocker. Part of my take in the anime crossover.
We got a few.

Speaker 1 Okay, who goes first here? Mount Rushmore. I go first.
It's a terrible draft to go first. Shout out our guy at the meet and greet who gave us this idea.
I think this is a good deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a good one.

Speaker 1 This will also be a good one. This will be

Speaker 1 a nice change of pace from Friday to Russia. It'll be a lot of fun.
There's a lot of open-ended ones coming up because I do like those the most. Yeah, but we needed a

Speaker 1 straightforward one.

Speaker 1 That one took a lot of years off my life, I think. We were arguing it days late.
Lozzarella, Italian, American, white. They're all white.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I was. There were times where I was like laying in bed and I was just thinking about the cheese, the different white cheeses.
And then I was thinking,

Speaker 1 there was another time. Yeah.
At one point, I thought, I was like, oh, that was a good argument. That's a good argument that I should have used.

Speaker 1 I was thinking, I was like, Hank said yellow starburst. Does that mean he gets all starbursts because there's one yellow starburst?

Speaker 1 Oh, it really rattled you. Yeah, no.

Speaker 4 Well, taking yellow starburst was maybe the worst pick out of a

Speaker 1 yellow, the cold play song.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's picked up.

Speaker 1 Was very bad. Yeah.
Yep.

Speaker 1 All right. So I first pick.

Speaker 1 I picked Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 What? Nothing. I did, and I admitted it was a bad pick.
You haven't admitted any any bad picks.

Speaker 1 I said I got crazy with that one. It was stupid.

Speaker 1 I got sometimes in Mount Rushmore. I know the PFT can back me up, but sometimes you just like, you just throw one and you're like, whoops.
That was a mistake. I do it all the time.

Speaker 1 Probably shouldn't have. It just happens where you just say it out loud and they're like, fuck, I wish I had that back.

Speaker 4 I should have said ice cream sandwich in the sandwich draft.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 It's a delicious sandwich, but it was a bad pick.

Speaker 1 But that's, it happens every Mount Rushmore season where it's just like you just lose your mind in the middle of a draft someone makes a good pick you panic Patrick Mahomes gets picked I should have said meatball and pizza yeah you should have yeah didn't okay okay uh my turn yeah first I will go with

Speaker 1 I think steroids I think one person I think Barry Bonds yep okay good pick that's a good one one yeah that was that was a good one one there's there are a lot of good picks but that's the one one I think yeah I still have my one one but I had I had Bonds as one two

Speaker 4 it was a Kinseiko oh good pick big steroids guy He's like the Johnny Apple seed of steroids for Major League Baseball. Taught everyone how to use it.
Yep. The Bash Brothers.
He looked like

Speaker 4 beached whale. He was on so many steroids when he boxed Billy.

Speaker 4 Jose Conseko's got to be 1-1.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So I'll just stay consistent here.

Speaker 1 Mark Maguire broke the home run record. That was steroid city.
He was also the tip of

Speaker 1 the whole thing when they found the Andro. Great.
Andro?

Speaker 4 Yeah, genius move on his part. Yeah.
By the way, we don't talk about, that's PR 101.

Speaker 4 You leave a bottle of legal steroids in your locker, so people talk about that, and then that's the controversy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, these are the, I would say these are like the faces, those are the three faces of steroids. Yep.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the three pimply backs of steroids.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mark McGuire, he captured.

Speaker 1 I also, we should have said before, we got no problem with any of these. Right.

Speaker 6 We like steroids. They all should be

Speaker 1 in the Hall of Fame. Like, it's not a judge.
Maybe not Kinseiko.

Speaker 1 No, his numbers probably aren't there. Yeah.
He lost to Billy Football. Well, yeah,

Speaker 1 that's the number one thing of why he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. But yeah, Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds, they should be in the Hall of Fame.
All right, Hank. I'm going to go with Lance Armstrong.

Speaker 1 Good pick.

Speaker 1 And then I will go.

Speaker 1 Tough.

Speaker 1 See, four is such a good spot. It is.

Speaker 4 Four is a good song. You have bangers back in the way.
But then things are going to be pretty thin.

Speaker 1 You get, yeah, there's a wall. Like, one's a tough spot for this draft.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Brian Cushion. Ooh.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 4 Interesting. I had him on my list.
He was much further down in my list, but I had him. I like it.

Speaker 1 I actually don't know. I'm going to take my next pick that I was planning on.
I would have even taken him one my first pick

Speaker 1 because he is also Mr. Steroid.
Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah.
I thought about him at 1-1. I mean, he's like, he actually also, the way he talks about steroids is very funny.

Speaker 1 He's like, I was prescribed by a doctor.

Speaker 1 So what, like, now all these guys are doing steroids and it's bad. Yep.
But he was just, he was just roiding up. He was.
And I mean, all his, just, he's an icon.

Speaker 1 Make you feel good about Brian Cushing.

Speaker 1 He's on my, he's on my others.

Speaker 4 I did have him. I had him as fourth round value.
He's on my others. I mean, he was roided out.

Speaker 1 He was.

Speaker 4 And I think it was a combination of, like, you know, the arms with him screaming all the time with his bloody face. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good pick.

Speaker 4 Good pick, Hank.

Speaker 1 Okay, PFD. Arnold Schwartzeney.

Speaker 4 Hank's staring through my soul right now.

Speaker 1 He just.

Speaker 1 Are you mad at me or are you mad at yourself? I'm not mad. I'm happy.
He took cold play again. I feel good.
He just did it again. I feel good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Lance was a good pick. Thank you.
Lance was

Speaker 1 in the first round. Had to go in the first round.

Speaker 4 Absolute no-brainer no-brainer for Lance.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 For my second pick, I'm going to go with

Speaker 4 Sammy Sosa.

Speaker 4 Sammy Sosa. Might not have done steroids.

Speaker 1 Did steroids. Definitely did steroids.

Speaker 4 I think his head got

Speaker 4 twice as big.

Speaker 1 I don't appreciate that question.

Speaker 4 Didn't he get adult braces, too?

Speaker 4 I think he got braces when he was like 35 years old.

Speaker 1 Hold on, I'm going to find that clip from

Speaker 1 this year when

Speaker 1 Luke and Ellis asked him if he finally is ready to talk about his steroid use.

Speaker 4 And he just didn't talk, right?

Speaker 1 No, he,

Speaker 1 hold on.

Speaker 1 This is what he said.

Speaker 4 This is,

Speaker 1 like I say,

Speaker 1 this is

Speaker 4 not a question that I expected from you.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's not a guy who did steroids. Yeah.
Not a question that I expected.

Speaker 4 That's not a guy who did steroids. That's like the only question he's ever been asked.

Speaker 1 I might have to put an asterisk on that pick, PFD.

Speaker 4 Big-time steroid guy.

Speaker 1 And he was the biggest.

Speaker 4 And he also did a genius movie.

Speaker 4 He did his own version of Andro, but it was with a cork bat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where it was like, everyone,

Speaker 1 that was to put on a show for the people.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 that was a batting practice.

Speaker 1 I just love that he's still like, you can't be more of a steroid guy to have a steroid question still

Speaker 1 like kneecap you in 2024. Yeah, just say you did it, dude.
Just be like, uh,

Speaker 1 not a question I expected from you. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with A-Rod. Okay.
Good pick. Good pick.

Speaker 1 I'm between two. A-Rod was a big deal.

Speaker 4 I should have

Speaker 4 taken A-Rod.

Speaker 1 No, I would have

Speaker 1 spent it for a year. I would have rather.

Speaker 1 Well, you have another pick. I know.

Speaker 4 Oh, you're saying you would have rather taken Sammy.

Speaker 1 I think I would have rather had Sammy. I'll trade Sam.
I'll trade Sam. What trade?

Speaker 4 Can we do trades?

Speaker 1 Me.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 We have the most passive. We're basically...
Our commissioner is Bud Selig. He's just like, I'm not looking at what you guys are doing.

Speaker 4 All right, no trade.

Speaker 1 No trade. Okay.

Speaker 1 This one's tough.

Speaker 1 Between two guys.

Speaker 1 I'll go Roger Clements. Good pick.
Roger Clemens. Good pick.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 1 Yep. Okay.

Speaker 4 My favorite Royd Rage moment from Roger Clemens was when he threw that bat at Mike Piazza. Yeah.
And then he yelled at him. I thought it was the ball.
Afterwards.

Speaker 1 The other guy

Speaker 1 is probably a better player, but Clemens is more of a steroid guy. Yeah, I mean, he just got so angry, he's such a steroid guy, yeah, he got so angry.

Speaker 4 Okay, PFT, I'm gonna go with Vince McMahon.

Speaker 1 I had him on my list.

Speaker 4 Yep, I had him on my list, yep, yeah, Vince, and he also did the Bud Ceelig where he just let everybody else use steroids. Yeah, he

Speaker 1 just was so fucking roided out that when he, like the attitude era, it was crazy. Yep, crazy.
Okay, uh, I'll go with someone different. Some may say, best in the world, best ever.

Speaker 1 John Jones.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I had him on my list.

Speaker 1 John Jones.

Speaker 4 The only thing about him is he did so many other drugs. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 But he did do steroids. He did steroids also.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 4 He's a lot of guys. Yeah, he's everything.

Speaker 1 He tried it all. Okay.
Hank.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I have two.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 There's a big one there.

Speaker 1 There's a big one. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Is there? Yeah. Really big one.

Speaker 1 He's big in his name.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 You would never pick him. But you could maybe save your draft.

Speaker 1 I will go.

Speaker 1 There's honestly two guys in there. Yeah, there's two guys.

Speaker 1 Actually, three. Yeah.
There's three guys.

Speaker 1 There's three guys you could pick.

Speaker 1 Give a girl. Should we give Hank five five picks? No.

Speaker 1 If he agrees to take Manny Poppy and Nomar.

Speaker 1 No, I'll take Manny Ramirez. Oh, okay.
Ow. Okay.
That was the one I was debating with. The way he got caught was very funny.

Speaker 4 He was taking like a female fertility drug, right?

Speaker 1 Yep. Yeah.
And they had a system. I think he just forgot.

Speaker 4 He said he took his wife's by mistake?

Speaker 1 No, but they had a system. They talked about it.
The guy that did it, they had a system to kind of get by the testing that was foolproof. Manny Ramirez just forgot.

Speaker 1 and like took it on the wrong day, came in, got tested, got

Speaker 4 busted. He took the pill on the wrong day?

Speaker 1 Yeah, because he was an idiot.

Speaker 1 And then I will go with

Speaker 1 LeBron James. Oh,

Speaker 1 interesting pick. Interesting.

Speaker 4 Very interesting. That's fun.

Speaker 1 That's a fun one. Hater of the year, Hank.
Yeah, hater of the year.

Speaker 1 Probably, you're not going to get any LeBron fans. Yeah, the prins.
But there are many.

Speaker 4 LeBron sexuals are not going to like that one. All right.
I got a pick.

Speaker 1 I mean, how is he not on steroids?

Speaker 1 Listen, that.

Speaker 4 I'm not debating that. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 I'm not throwing a flag.

Speaker 1 That's probably an honorable. Yeah, I mean, that's probably an honorable mention yeah i have a pick that i

Speaker 1 i don't want to hurt our future chance of having him back on julian edelman no

Speaker 1 i i know where you're going and i would i would take this yeah i will take this if you don't mind all right fine i will

Speaker 1 pay manning's wife yep that was that was my fourth pick i had him that was alleged alleged i had payment mannings wife

Speaker 1 that was that was gonna be that i almost took it one one to be honest

Speaker 1 it was

Speaker 1 I thought about it 1-1. That was going to be my last pick.
Yeah. Yep.
Good pick. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would have done it. Makes me feel better that everyone else would have done it.

Speaker 4 Yep, people forget.

Speaker 1 Alleged. Yep.
But, yeah, that was a hilarious story. Very funny.

Speaker 1 And we're not saying Peyton did it. No, no, his wife.

Speaker 4 His wife is a steroid.

Speaker 1 His wife was coming back from a very bad neck injury. Yep.

Speaker 4 Wanted to win a Super Bowl. Wanted to win a second one.
Okay.

Speaker 4 This is my last pick? Yeah. I'm going to take Secretariat.

Speaker 1 I knew, I knew you were going to secretariat.

Speaker 4 Some would say the greatest athlete of all time, yeah, but its heart was like three times too big. We've documented that tirelessly on this show.

Speaker 4 Secretary, definitely on steroids, Randy Moss, white Randy Moss, agreed chances are very, very high that Secretariat was doing steroids. Yes, dirty horse.
That's why Flightline's the goat.

Speaker 1 Yep, Flightline is the goat. Okay, Max, your last pick.

Speaker 1 I really wanted Peyton Manning's wife. That's upsetting to me.
Oh, wow. Clip that.

Speaker 1 There is another wife, but you already... No, who...
You already, you could get the couple.

Speaker 1 Roger Clemens' wife. No,

Speaker 1 I don't need that. That was not as famous of a story.
Although there was the picture shoot.

Speaker 4 By the pool? Yeah, there's a big one out there.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I'll just go with Big Poppy, but I don't know what you're thinking.

Speaker 4 I was thinking Tiger Woods.

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 1 Did he? I mean.

Speaker 1 You could make the argument. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maria. I just went all baseball, which I hate, but whatever.
Yeah. All right.
So, Hank, let's play a game where we'll do honorable mentions. Tell us which ones you wouldn't take over Brian Cushing.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 Jarek Robbis.

Speaker 1 Terrible pick. Okay.
Billy Football.

Speaker 1 You'd rather have. Nah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Liver King.

Speaker 1 Liver King's a good one I thought about. Taylor Luan.

Speaker 1 Nah. None of these pop.
No one knows it's pop. Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 1 I had Hulk Hogan. I thought about it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Decent. But I'd still rather have Brian Cushing.

Speaker 4 What about Dr. Dre?

Speaker 1 Didn't even know he was on steroids. What about...
I actually think when I think football steroids, Bill Romanowski.

Speaker 1 You're old. Okay.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, that's right. He had a suitcase.
I thought about

Speaker 4 it.

Speaker 1 I should have watched it last. It's Stallone.

Speaker 6 Stallone.

Speaker 1 I've had Ivan Drago. If we want fictional.
Yeah, but like, it's not, there's nothing wrong with wrestlers or actors taking steroids. We're not saying there's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 4 There's nothing wrong with anyone taking steroids.

Speaker 1 No, I know, but it's like, it's, it's.

Speaker 4 What about the boss? Would you take it?

Speaker 1 When you think steroids, you think of rule breakers, not just like guys that get Jack.

Speaker 4 Would you take the Boz over Brian Cushman?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Tony Mandrick.
Nope. You don't think of Schwarzenegger when you think of steroids? No, I definitely don't.
Yeah. No, I think he's just jacked.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Joe Rogan. I'm going to come.

Speaker 1 Joe Rogan was another one that I thought about.

Speaker 4 Would you take Joe Rogan over?

Speaker 1 Kurt Kreischer? Nope. Nope.

Speaker 1 Thomas Gura. I like.
Brian Cushing's a good pick. Like, when you're in the middle of the day when you see the name Brian Cushing,

Speaker 1 you instantly think steroids.

Speaker 4 Buster Rhymes.

Speaker 1 Is he on steroids?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's fucking swole now.

Speaker 1 CT. You sound like CT is a good one.
Yeah, CT is a good one. Also, what's his name? Wes.
Yep. Wes was a fucking classic steroid.

Speaker 1 He was a skinny ass fuck, and then he came back, roided out that one season. Said he had over

Speaker 1 100 companies. He had 100 companies, and then someone figured out he was just like, he had, he just invested in like a mutual fund yeah and so he owned technically 100 companies yeah eric gagne

Speaker 1 he was a good one just because he was such a fucking head case uh his name translates to i win yeah

Speaker 1 uh deandre hopkins

Speaker 1 doesn't pop i like i like brian cushion's a good pick okay macho man randy savage

Speaker 1 all wrestlers are on it chris benoit

Speaker 4 i thought about benoit yeah

Speaker 1 that's a tough one. That's a tough one.

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Speaker 1 You don't want to make a statue made of them. You don't want to vote on that guy.
Undeniable. Undeniable steroids.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Ben Johnson, the runner. Yeah.
To be honest, did you know that I had no idea about anything of Chris Benoit until our coworker, Mike Greer, wore a t-shirt

Speaker 1 that had his name on it? Yeah. I could believe it.

Speaker 1 I had no idea of any of that story.

Speaker 4 I bought a shirt for one of my friends one time, a Chris Benoit cross-faced Crippler shirt. Yeah.
And I thought it was funny. And then we both realized he's never going to wear it.
No.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No.

Speaker 1 One of my personal favorites, Ryan Braun, because Aaron Rodgers said he'd bet a year's salary that Ryan Braun was clean.

Speaker 1 That's a good one.

Speaker 4 They owned a restaurant together. Rafael Palmero.

Speaker 4 Just because he testified in front of Congress and he pointed his finger and he said, let me be very clear.

Speaker 4 And then it turns out they did it.

Speaker 1 Brady Anderson is another one that wouldn't play on the graphic, but one of my favorites because he hit like eight. I think he hit 210 home runs and 50 in one year.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it was literally like 18, 18, 18, 50,

Speaker 1 18. It's just he played 15 years and a quarter of his home runs came in one year.
Yep. Jules.
Jules. I had Jules on my list.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Jules is on my list too. I didn't want to, I'm not going to say the person I was about to say.
What were we going to say? Because it's speculative. Who? It's a recurring guest on the show.

Speaker 4 Very nice guy. Oh, no.
Very, very nice guy. Text it to me.
Jerry? I'll text it to you. Jerry is on the worst steroids of all time if he's on steroids.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Garoppolo.

Speaker 4 I forgot Jimmy G just got busted for using PEDs. Yeah.
Those were some really bad PEDs.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Blake? No. No.
Come on. Brooks? No.
No.

Speaker 1 He would never do that. I'm trying to think who else I have on my list.

Speaker 1 Most of my names are off.

Speaker 1 I didn't have many.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Who was it? Nah, he didn't do it.

Speaker 4 He probably didn't do it. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Carl Lewis, was he?

Speaker 1 So, Carl Lewis, Carl Everett.

Speaker 4 Carl Lewis won three gold medals.

Speaker 4 I think he won the 100-meter dash three Olympics in a row.

Speaker 1 And they got the adult braces.

Speaker 4 That'd be 12 years, and then he got the adult. No one can win the Olympics three years in a row on the 100-meter dash.

Speaker 1 Wait, didn't bolt do it?

Speaker 4 Probably, but he's a freak.

Speaker 1 Tom Fornelly.

Speaker 4 Yes, Tom Fornelly. Yeah, he does them.
Does steroids for sure does him? Have you seen his balls? Like Tic Tacs.

Speaker 1 Good list, though. I feel good about it.

Speaker 1 Very good about it. Who are you for again, Hank?

Speaker 1 Lance Armstrong, Brian Cushing, great pick.

Speaker 1 Many Ramirez, LeBron. I mean, how.
It's a good list. Hank is for sure going to tweet out like a video of Brian Cushing bashing his skull tomorrow morning.

Speaker 4 Or just like

Speaker 4 Starbucks Cup. Is this for chicks? Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 1 Good Mount Rushmore. Good show, boys.

Speaker 1 We'll do an open-ended one on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Get back to the open-ended ones. Tell us, tweet us any open-ended Mount Rushmores you want us to do.
Those are the fun ones that get a good one, though.

Speaker 4 This was a good one.

Speaker 1 Good one to get back on track. All right.
Good show, boys. Numbers.
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