Matthew Stafford, Steph Curry Saves America, Getting Excited About Preseason Football + Mt Rushmore of Steroid Users (Alleged)

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have Super Bowl winning quarterback, future Hall of Famer Hank, please stop doing what you're doing. Matthew Stafford on the show.
He's so loopy right now. He was just, he was mouthing.
Hank might just be loopy. He was mouthing what I was saying back to me.
He's doing part of my take karaoke. Yeah.
Matthew Stafford on the show. Great interview.
We have a violently hungover Hank. No.
Should be interesting. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of steroid users, alleged, just so that we don't get any legal problems.
Yeah, but just Mount Rushmore of steroids. Yeah, Mount Rushmore of steroid users.
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That's code TAKE for new customers to get $150 in bonus bets when bet just five bucks ufc 305 is coming this weekend from australia it's going to be a great time bet with draft kings the crown is yours today is monday august 12th and i know we want to talk about football but we also have to talk about the olympics and our team being so awesome that game being incredible but for the record i want to talk about i do but football. I do too.
But yeah, let's lead it off with the... Yeah, I was thinking about it.
I was like, should we lead it off with the fact that we both have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks? No, let's temper our excitement for a second, which we will get to that. And I said the two of us, because there was only one guy who seemingly didn't play great.
Well, I would say all three of us have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks if you include joe milton that's true but we should talk about the olympics in that usa game because it was fucking awesome steph curry is the man he saved america that was one of the most fun times i've had watching basketball and steph curry comes in and he was lights out for the last two games he was 17 for 26 from 360 points in the last two games and those it was a three-point game with 258 left and Steph was like fuck it I'm just gonna hit every shot and he had four threes and it was I I yelped on that last one yeah people were screaming yeah it was it was insane and uh if you listen to the French broadcast of it, I don't know if you've had a chance to go back. I saw the clips.
I always love to do that in college football season where you hear the home announcing team narrate a heartbreaking loss. The French guys were just like, this is impossible.
What's happening? They kept calling him the Devil Curry. Yes.
The Devil Curry just ended their dreams. And there were two shots that he put up that if it's anybody else on the planet, you're like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah.
At one point, he passed out of a double team to Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant was like relatively open as far as KD goes.
And he just said, fuck it. I'm going to throw it back to Steph Curry because Steph can't miss right now.
Shoots it over two guys. Kevin Durant.
He said it was a bad shot, too. Well, Kevin Durant and LeB lebron were wide open for the three yeah and under no circumstance do you ever not give the ball to kevin durant or lebron at the end of a game unless your name is steph curry and it somehow it went in but it is just so much fucking fun to get to root for steph curry i get it i i understand why warriors fans have been complete pricks to everybody else for the last 10 years.
I get it. I understand it.
Steph Curry, if I got to root for Steph Curry every day, I would develop the same superiority complex that Hank Lockwood has had from rooting for Tom Brady. It was so good and so incredible.
Steph Curry impressed himself. He said that.
He said afterwards, before every shot you take, you think it's going in. All I saw was, this is talking about the last shot.
All I saw was the rim. I didn't see who was in front of me.
I knew it was kind of late clock situation, but that one impressed myself. Yeah.
That's how good he is. Steph Curry's so good that he impresses Steph Curry.
Yeah, they were really good. And you know what I loved about these Olympics? The fact that the players cared.
Yeah. They cared very deeply about it.
Oh, dude. They cared.
If of them told you like oh you know i i just want to go over there and have fun didn't matter if i played didn't matter if they got me in the game didn't matter if i was in the rotation they're lying they wanted to be in there they wanted to be playing they wanted to do this i i guess for the country which is awesome to see because in olympics past some of the guys were just like yeah whatever it an exhibition. We're going to crush the world.
The days of just showing up and destroying the rest of the world are over. We have to actually put in work, put in practice, and play as a team if we want to win.
So to get a gold in that way, it was awesome. It was awesome.
They care. Even their family cares.
Yeah. To the point of, like, complaining publicly.
Yeah. Yeah.
They care a lot. And they flew in Draymond.

Yeah.

Which is the right move to do. Draymond flew in just to troll Gobert.
He tweeted. He's like, what should I say? I'm sitting right behind him.
But it also felt like the finale of an era in the NBA because it was KD. It was LeBron.
It was Steph. Those were the three guys.
Devin Booker was phenomenal, by the way. Like he was the unsung hero.
He completely changed his role to fit into this team and was so, so good. And like the three guys who have meant so much to basketball for the last two decades, finishing it this way, because all three of them are at the tail end of their career and maybe not going to win another NBA title.
But it was just awesome to watch. And LeBron was amazing.

And KD was amazing.

Steph was just going off.

Anthony Davis finished the game because I can't remember who our other center was,

but it was good that Anthony Davis was in there.

I think he had four blocks. The starting center, he had trouble defending against Wimby,

who everybody else also has that problem defending against Wimby.

The starting center looked slow.

He looked like he was a step late to every loose ball. He looked like he was out of shape a little bit.
Who was our starting center? I'm not sure. Bam, right? Bam.
No, no. It wasn't Bam.
Joel Embiid. Oh, thank you, Ewey.
Joel Embiid. Yeah.
I got the pleasure of watching this game with Max and his brothers, and it was just them screaming at the TV the entire time. Come on, Joe.
What the fuck, Joe? I knew it was not going well for Embiid when Max tweeted halfway through the game. He's like, everyone's shitting on Joel.
We wouldn't be here without him. True.
Yeah. He wanted to go back in time to the Serbia game.
I also love the way that Joel Embiid received his gold medal when the crowd was just booing the shit out of him because he chose to go with the U.S. instead of France, he was just like yeah give it to me i mean he's he's a philly guy yeah you think that bothers him france cannot boo out boo joel and beat yeah he had a quote going into it he was like yeah france is probably gonna boo me and i'm just gonna tell him to suck it yeah also very hit him with the ds like he there's there's one guy who can't like you can't boo Joel Embiid out of the building.
He plays in Philadelphia. He also – watching the clips of everyone post-game and then the next day, just how hungover they all were.
Actually, we have someone who basically won the U.S. gold right here, Henry Lockwood.
Looked like he parted with him. But Joel Embiid doesn't drink was like, like just side-eyeing everyone walking to, I think they were getting to the airport and it was just like, everyone had glasses on, looked like shit.
And Joel was just like, I'm ready to go. Let's get on the flight.
Maybe he needs to start drinking. Maybe that's the problem.
Yeah. It was get out of his own head.
It was awesome. So, and now there was two guys who maybe didn't play a lot.
Tyrese Halliburton who handled it in a in a very funny way, saying when you get an A and you did none of the work. That's kind of the way you have to handle it because you're still one of the best 12 players to be on that team, and you did contribute in the fact that there were scrimmages and all the weeks leading up to it.
You've got to take pride in that shit. You've got to take pride.
No matter what level basketball player you're at, if you help the team, that's first and foremost. Right.
And then Hank. Yep.
How do we feel? I mean, Jason Tatum did get into the final. Felt like he got bullied minutes.
He got bullied? He got bullied minutes. Curb got bullied into putting him in the game.
Interesting. Do you not agree? I mean, his explanation for Serbia made no sense when he said it's a math problem.
Well, there's eight less minutes. Right, but you could still...
Are you talking metric system? That's what Steve Kerr was saying. But there's eight less minutes in an NBA game.
Listen, the resume... No one really knows who does well or who does poorly in the Olympics.
At the end of the day, when you look back at his career, he's going to have two gold medals at least. Yeah.
Yeah. He said he would play in the 2020.
I mean, I do feel bad for Jason Tatum because I'll say this in defense of Jason Tatum. He did not say one word.
No. His mom did.
Fans did. He didn't.
Like, that's one of those situations where it gets put on him that he's upset, and he probably was upset because everyone wants to play, but he wasn't upset to – he wasn't being a malcontent. He wasn't saying anything.
Other people were saying things, and then it gets attributed to him. Right.
Which is not fair. But if you watch the games, the lineup that did not have Jason Tatum in it was vastly superior.
Yeah. We were dominating with that lineup.
They were really fucking good.

Our closing lineup was very good.

Anthony Davis was phenomenal at the end.

It was just fun. It was fun

to watch. Steph Curry's the fucking man.

Yabu dunked on LeBron. That was great.

Yabu did. He might have dunked his way back in the league.

Skip obviously went

straight to Twitter and was like...

Steph Curry won the MVP, right?

LeBron did win the MVP.

Skip was like, this is an indictment on LeBron's legacy. Just perfect spin zone.
That he won a fake MVP at the Olympics where they won gold? Yeah, and LeBron was, I mean, he got a triple-double against Serbia, and he was good in every game. Steph basically locked in for the last two games.
He closed it out at the end of the last two games, and we wouldn't have had that comeback against Serbia without him. and we probably wouldn't have beaten France without him just catching fire at the very end but if you look at what the numbers were LeBron he did not lead the team in points per game Steph did but it was like barely it was like he led the team in rebounds and rebounds and assists yeah and almost led the team in points like you could give it to any one of those guys but I love the fact that Skip he's going to find his angle yeah Skip Bales by the way doesn't have a show to do his lebron thing on he's just doing this for the love of the game yeah and it would have been if steph had gotten the mbp it would have been the same video being like lebron didn't get the mbp and this was his team yeah his olympics also shout out serbia probably the coolest dudes in the world they won the bronze medal game went straight to the bar and then came back for the medal ceremony and they were shithoused.
I love it. Jokic looked like he was going to puke at one point because guys were kind of grabbing him.
And then also, there's a club Jokic is already at the racetrack. Yeah, of course.
Jokic probably spent his entire Olympics watching dressage. That's why he probably didn't practice with the team that much.
That looked like they did it perfectly. This is why the the debate like would you rather win bronze or silver i'd rather win bronze because then you don't have to live like the rest of your life saying i was so close i would like to win bronze if i lost to the gold medal winner yeah but still like they had the best time yesterday france didn't france looked you know in front of the home crowd they lose and then all the serbians show up drunk as fuck there's also the stat continues that uh there's only three team three countries that

have won a gold medal outside of the u.s and men's basketball and two of those two of those

three countries do not exist so it was kind of a fun stat what countries were they it's argentina

was that the one argentina does exist yeah and then uh soviet union yeah yugoslavia okay yeah

If Yugoslavia had stayed a country they'd be a problem they'd be a real problem because they would they would have yokich and uh luca they should be allowed to compete it would be fun yeah but those two so so the only country that still exists that has won a gold other than us is argentina and soviet union would have uh kp yeah true yeah yeah there was no rush in these olympics right for the most part i guess not yeah and we won this asterisk we won the gold or we won the olympics we did yeah congratulations we did it we did it we tied with uh china for most golds and then the tiebreaker which i think is made up by us is it silvers is silvers and bronzes oh we want together yeah okay yeah we did it guys also we were very close to not winning the total golds and i just wanted to shout out um i don't know who this person is iman keeliff uh that person stopped uh china from getting uh one extra goal because if you might give now what what division were they competing this was women's boxing women's body okay the yeah shout out to her yeah so she stopped she she beat a chinese woman in the welterweight championship she's my favorite woman in the world that's a funny wrinkle let's go usa usa all of the united states was rooting for whoever that boxer that you said yes so that's all getting behind it's it's really good that we that we won yeah the medal count i love that i love just being able to say like fuck you to the rest of the world we still got it i don't care well what about the horses do we know where the horses were from no i don't know i don't know if you have to bring in the horses from the same place because i feel like the the horses should get the medals the riders should not get the medals at the equestrian. We did have an awesome...
I forget her name. Shit, what's her name? The female wrestler that suplexed the fuck out of her opponent in the finals and just dropped her on her head, basically broke her neck in the finals.
They had to stop her. For US? Yeah, it was an awesome move.
Fuck yeah. I forget who it was.
Hell yeah. But shout out to her because she's a fucking hoss.
Also, if we're going to try to figure out how to make sure that we win the golds outright in at la well first of all i didn't even realize that you get to the host country gets to add a sport yep that's how breakdancing came in shout out to ray gun yeah ray gun the goat took the world by storm we watched some of the the breaking on friday here in the office i was trying to live bet on it i had no idea how the point system worked but ray gun was she's she's a hero she's yeah she's amazing she was doing the kangaroo hop she was doing moves like an eighth grader would do at a talent show yeah she's the rest of the break dancers have to be very upset at her because i watched some of the others and they were incredible yeah like spinning on their heads for minutes at a time and then ray gun was just doing elaine you know bennis dance she's a uh she's a professor And one of the things that she teaches is break dancing. I would drop her class if I were in it.
But she basically found a way to get a free trip to France and get a team uniform. Yeah.
Credit to her. And she was wearing like an Australian cricket uniform.
She was wearing like the green pants, a green polo shirt, the green hat. It was awesome.
I was struggling to figure out what the rules were with breaking. I didn know if there was like a tko if you serve somebody so hard they just stop the fight yeah like that's too much that's too much someone's going to get hurt like battle rap like battle battle rap should be in the la being an olympian would be sick i think it might be more of a sport than than some of the sports that we saw yeah definitely more of a sport than curling i think we're are we adding football is that what it is being like football baseball oh it's baseball our sport baseball should be back anyways we might not win that we might not win that we we should win football but oh we definitely remember our team stinks no but we we're gonna have nfl players joe burrow yeah he said he wants to do it yeah the um was looking at it.
If we want to figure out a way to win it outright, China.

Now, I'm not saying that it's a Mickey Mouse gold half of a title, whatever you want to call it.

They won five ping pong events and eight diving events.

Seems a little.

How are there five ping pong events?

I have no idea, but they won them all.

Because there should be, at the max, there should be four, right?

I think there's-

Men's, women's.

Men's. Men's.
Men's doubles. Women's doubles.
men's doubles women's doubles mix doubles it's doubles they swept it they swept the board i don't like i didn't know there was eight divings that's too many diving swept the board on that there's yeah there's too many of the niche ones there should be maximum four medals in uh in table tennis yeah now maybe we got to sweeten the pot a little bit because we're giving each gold medalist 37 000 that's what the u.s gives and a job at home depot other countries no we

don't even do that anymore sometimes they get their picture on a wheaties box congratulations

here's 37 grand and your picture on the worst cereal in the world yeah joy uh hong kong and

singapore they do the highest payouts um hong kong gives 768 000 to their winner singapore gives

Thank you. Hong Kong and Singapore, they do the highest payouts.
Hong Kong gives $768,000 to their winner. Singapore gives $745,000.
And then the Philippines gives a house, a lot, a two-bedroom condominium, $18,000 worth of furniture, a lifetime supply of cookies. and free meals for life from local restaurant chains, including Korean fried chicken.
They should just do the Armageddon. If you win a gold medal for US, you never pay taxes.
Don't pay taxes. And also, you get to commit one felony.
Sure. Get out of jail for your card.
Well, not paying taxes. Not paying taxes, but also you can transfer okay up to manslaughter yeah i mean i caitlin jenner would having probably still be walking amongst us having everyone be like hey i don't have to pay taxes again that would be the greatest she is still walking well at least she's not driving driving yeah driving is her issue uh indonesia in 2021 gave their gold medalist five cows each and a meatball restaurant oh max wow yeah max you need to get a passport yep we gotta step our shit up and in south korea you get pensions so you get like the lump sum and then you get money every single year for the rest of your life yeah instead we have noah lyles who's winning he's he might be hater of the year he might have to do that as a takey, hater of the year, because he was the one who, before the Olympics, said you don't win a world championship if you win the NBA championship.
Yep. That's not the world.
Everyone's like, that's kind of weird. Whatever.
Hank, did you write that down? Takeys? Takeys. Got it.
Hank, write it down. What was it, Hank? Hater of the Year.
Who? Noah Lyles. Okay.
You got it? Why don't you write it down? Because you did say this year you're going to be on top of it. Mack said he was going to be on top of it.
Did I? I thought you said you were going to be on top of it. No, no, no.
So are you giving away? I can be on top of it. I can take this responsibility.
You're going to take the lead, Mack? You already did. All right.
So who's going to back him up? Are you going to back him up? This could be on me. This could be on me.
Hank, are you going to back him up? I told Max to write it down, and then Max, for some reason, turned his mic on to tell Hank. But me and him are in charge.
Hey, listen. Hank's playing hurt right now.
I support Max. No, that's on me.
That's on me. Will you be the backup? Yeah.
Okay. Well, he'll be the third.
Tell Max to write that down.

Yeah. Yeah, I'll write that down.

I'll write that down.

I feel like Hank could show some strong competition

hitter of the year.

Yeah, for sure.

It's an award that I guarantee you he will be nominated for.

But Noah Lyles, it came out that he was upset

because Adidas, when he was negotiating with Adidas

for his new contract,

they invited him to an Anthony Edwards event. Yeah.
And he was like, this guy hasn't even been to an NBA finals. So I actually, I understand.
No, Lyle's basically like, I need to get my name out there. So be hater of the year and people will talk about me.
I think he knows what he's doing. And I want to have his side in the fact that he can't be that dumb that he thinks that running track every four years is important as playing in the NBA.
He does. Okay, so maybe he's that dumb.
This is what I love about Noah Lyles. I think it all comes naturally to him.
Okay. He definitely got cut playing basketball, right? He's got some very deep-seated anger for any ball sport.
Yeah. And he's like, why is track not the number one sport in america he was like a point guard that didn't have any handles whatsoever and every time he's on a fast break he'd dribble it off his foot yeah no liles a little tip for you why don't you just say that you're going to try out for an nfl team that would get you some nice publicity people would talk about it people be like wow could you imagine no liles running down running running a go route now you probably can't catch because you're this upset about uh anthony abwards who's one of the best nba players but we'll deal with that later yeah he'd be he would be sick on the chiefs flag football flag football he probably he there's no i know lyle's definitely if you threw him a ball he would not be able to catch it no that's the vibe i'm getting from him his anger towards the NBA.
I felt like he excelled at puzzles from a young age. Yeah.
Yeah. And he also overcame COVID to get the hater going.
I like that. It was just better, and then he was just like, now I got my hater back.
I am a little bit concerned about the state of one sport in America. Okay.
Swimming. Yeah.
Male swimming in America. Oh, yeah.
The French guy kicked our ass the french guy kicked our french guy kicked her

ass katie ledecky shout out to her i think she's like tied for the the lead in gold medals shout out all our women yeah i think they dominated they dominated our men our men stink at swimming what happened what happened to american men is it fellas is it gay to swim phelps might need to make a comeback and i actually think he could i think he'd probably do better than whatever these jackasses were yeah but we only got one gold medal in male swimming uh i don't know i don't know what the problem is do we like i know huey you can definitely swim right well probably no probably wasn't caleb dressle the big story was that he was watching house of dragon too late one night yeah so maybe we just got to take away tvs yeah if we put our best players our best athletes into swimming we would dominate and we don't we don't i had fun i listen olympics were fun can't say i watched a ton of it but i watched it here and there yeah it was good it was good to have on in these desperate weeks that we just need to get through training camp and the basketball was awesome basketball the fact that the world has caught up and it makes it very exciting and there's drama involved in it like that was a dramatic game yeah and uh i'm happy we won i would like to see an olympics where they just select the athletes at random like anybody from the united states could get put on any team yeah and we have to compete just average people from around the world competing against other average people in random sports that they've never practiced. Well, they should have one average person in every single event just so that we have a barometer.
To show how hard it is. Like if you're just like, hey, here's the 100 meter dash, have just a random 35-year-old dude running it.
Yeah. And we can be like, oh, that's me.
Yeah. I suck.
I lost by seven seconds. I think one of the funniest events for that would be the high jump where you have to try to jump over it backwards yeah because i think most people if you tried to do that motion you would just land directly on your head and you wouldn't even get above the mat yeah pole vault you just go straight sideways i mean all these yeah we they should absolutely have just a base person just competing in all these events just so that we can see it because it would we would quickly realize how much better they are not that we don't but there's always a little bit of you where it's like that that doesn't seem that hard there should also they all are very hard there should be eating in the olympics too yeah joey chestnut joey oh we should put that in for that for 2028 that would have rocked hot dog eating that would have rocked um you want to talk about football yeah that was a fun a fun weekend of football.
It was a great week. It's back.
It's preseason. I lasted as long as I lasted longer than I ever could ever.
Oh, I didn't even try. Yeah, I tried.
Hour and a half I lasted. I didn't try.
I saw all I needed to see. People are impressed.
Yeah. So, Big Cat, congratulations.
Congratulations to you as well. How many Super Bowls do you think you're going to get? Listen, I don't want to talk about Super Bowls.
I just want to talk about the realization that I had. And this is going to get clipped, and people are going to say I'm stupid, and I'm doing it all over again.
Watching Caleb Williams play quarterback made me feel like the dumbest person in the entire world for ever thinking that Mitch Trubisky and Justin Fields were were the guys because it looks so different yeah and i know it's preseason i know it was only a few plays but it just looks different like he's his he's confident poised like reading the defense it just looks different i felt like such an idiot and yeah i lasted an hour and a half and i told the whole world to suck my dick from the back yeah as you should because my own experience watching jayden on uh on saturday that one throw he had oh so and then big when i found out that he audibled into that play oh my god i i covered my entire basement yeah i got stalactite stripping from the ceiling now gross i've never i don't want to say never he reminds me of rg3 in the rg3 good times it's been 30 years since i've had a quarterback that for longer than like 10 weeks i could really root for and really think this is the guy and know this is the guy but big head he's so i know i agree i agree ball is so good he's so fast i agree he's just and he looks good in the uniform it's awesome i mean you said rg3 i the the screen dump off that caleb williams made when a guy had his hand in his face and it was like a broken play yeah that looked like patrick robes yeah we got i i don't i but i'm not i'm not these are just we should have prefaced this segment with this is a safe space. We're just talking, two guys having fun talking.
None of this is, we're not putting this on anyone. This is not what we're saying is going to happen.
We're just saying what we saw. Yeah.
In a preseason game. What I saw.
Sickos. What I saw in preseason week one.
Preseason week one. Week one.
It was week two for the Bears, but Caleb Williams didn't play week one the excitement of having a team that uh that has a quarterback it's like we're we're fans of different sport this year it's like sundays are gonna be different deep sundays are different this year like being like third and long we could maybe still get this yeah hank did you feel the same way about joe milton yeah i actually i made a list i made a ranking oh should we do rankings of rookie quarterbacks? Sure. Number one.
I had Joe Milton. Yep.
Because Joe Milton is fucking awesome. Yeah, the boys fired up.
Yeah, boys. I also wouldn't have been watching.
It was on what we were doing. Coach Doug.
So I pretty much watched the whole game and you could tell, you know, coming off the sidelines like the team team was rallying. Already QB controversy was rallying behind him.
We'll see. I think so.
And we are in phase one of the Joe Milton experience. Would this be so mean, though, if Joe Milton did to Bailey Zappi what Bailey Zappi did to Matt Jones? Yeah, they're going to have a decision to make.
Four QBs, three spots. Yeah.
This segment is also... Milton tough.
We're pretending to be guys that have never watched Joe Milton play in college at all. Yeah, no.
That guy, how did that guy last until the sixth round? That guy should have been top 10. Patriots get a sixth round steal.
History repeats itself. Yeah.
Number two, I had a tie between Caleb and Jaden. That's fair.
I want to be fair. And Joe Milton, obviously, number one.
Caleb, Jaden, number two. J.J.
Arrington, number three. J.J.
Arrington? No, sorry, sorry. J.J.
McCarthy? McCarthy. Yeah, Viking, number three.
Second defense. Second defense.
Where did Arrington come from? I don't know. There's a player named J.J.
Arrington. LeVar Arrington.
Number four, Bo Nix. Bo Nix looked good.
This might be the season. Bo Nix.
Bo Nix, I feel like he's... J.J.
Arton was a running back for Cal. Yeah.
Bo Nix. A lot of Heisman buzz around him this year.
I think he's going to be good. Yeah.
Five. Spencer Rattler.
Spencer looked good. He plays for? He plays for an NFL team.
But I looked up his stats and they were good. Number six.
Michael Penix. And then number seven.
I had Drake May may it's a pretty good class and sets and pennant technically a rookie kind of kind of yeah because he sat out he bounced back really nicely from his fourth interception game-winning drive yeah yeah anthony richardson also kind of a rookie kind of yeah yeah it was fun watching football i'm very excited i'm gonna'm going to let myself... I really did.
I tried so hard, PFT. I was like, I'm not going to be...
I'm not going to do what I always do and just get crazy. And it was like...
I was basically the meme, the kid in class, like holding everything in. I was just for an hour, I was watching the Bears and I was like, I'm not going to get crazy and tweet crazy shit.
Like, this has got to be different. I got to act differently.
And then I just lost it and just busted everywhere. He looked really good.
He looked very good. So did Jaden.
I'll tell you what. This is going to be the worst clip ever.
I don't care. I'm ready.
Make no mistake. I'm ready to be hurt again.
I am. I haven't felt that way watching sports in a while.
Markel Fultz was so good in Summer why you have to make this about philadelphia good point what the fuck that's a good point i'm just saying what the fuck that's a fair point max i am not i want to say i am not ready to get hurt again oh i am i am not i've been hurt too many times too recently i feel like if we played the i am not ready first preseason yes that's why i'm not ready to get hurt again exact same but i just told you hank i watched never thought mitch i want to play justin i i knew mitch wasn't a guy i'm not ready to get hurt again i'm not i'm not mentally physically in a space where i could take the hurt again it will it will kill me it will kill me this would be the last hurt of my life. Max, if you had to pick, if you had to rank between just the three of us in this room, which quarterback would you want first? Joe Milton.
Good answer. He's got a rocket arm.
Stud. Threw an orange 106 yards.
Yeah. I was thinking about it.
I think I would want the Patriots to be the best. Why? Because I already know Cocky Hank.
I already know what it's like to be around Hank in good teams. Oh, it's the devil you know.
It's the devil I know. I don't know how I am.
That makes sense. On what planet would we be worse? No, that's a fair...
We can't be worse than this guy. That's not true.
He's drunk during a now because that's also not but i already hate hank i don't want to i don't want to hate i don't want to hate you guys yeah you pass a breathalyzer right now yeah we should get a breathalyzer i doubt it uh i i actually understand what you're saying max because i don't know what i'm capable of like i It's scary to think of what I could be capable of. If Caleb Williams was incredible, I might be a monster.
Yeah, I mean, it would be cool if Chicago was buzzing for the Bears. That would be fun.
Yeah, we would need the hopes to get up. I want both you guys to make the playoffs.
You're always doing it that way. Thank you, Hank.
He wants us to make the playoffs. Thank you, Hank.

It was

just preseason week one. It was.

And we might be a year out, but

Jaden... Yeah.
CJ Straub

was really good in preseason last year.

I think more than anything, it's just the ups

and downs I have to figure out how

to deal with better. It's the

ups and downs. We haven't been here before.

I'm like a drive-by-drive guy, and I need to figure out how to be.

We've both been here very recently.

I need to figure out like a month.

You had RG3.

Very recently.

That was 12 years ago.

You had Sam Howell.

And it lasted like.

Sam Howell, you did say, was a guy.

I was talking Soupy after two weeks last year.

Yes.

That was 12 years ago, Hank, and we had like maybe 13 weeks where he looked healthy.

Sam Howell was so good against the Eagles in that one game. He was.
It was incredible. It's been a time twice since the podcast has existed.
That's why I'm not ready to get hurt again. It's becoming all too familiar.
But like that, we haven't been here before. Yes, you have.
No, I haven't. Not since RG3.
Second pick overall. I know the sickos.
Croissant. Although, deep down, I feel like Packers fans might actually think they're a little worried.
Although Jordan Love looks good. But I think they're a little worried.
The RG3 croissant picture was so funny. Yeah.
Very, very funny. He was always horny.
He was deep-throating that thing. Yeah.
Deep-throating it. Greta was not.
Yeah. RG3, he had that past the gag reflex.
She was not in on the same joke that he was doing. I don't think it was a joke.
Yeah, I don either he just loves croissant he loves croissant uh-huh uh okay do we have anything else before we do who's back of the week ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working nah neither has ariat ariat work jackets and boots are packed with all the cold stopping waterproof protection you need to get the job done under any conditions so you can take any job out there and always deliver. Check out Ariat in your local workwear retailer or visit Ariat.com slash work to get 10% off your first order when you sign up for email.
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Henry, who's back of the week? My who's back of the week is Jameis Winston. Yes.
We're going to do same faces, new places. I think we'll do that Wednesday now.
Soon, but Jameis on the Browns is a match made in heaven.

He had a very funny pregame speech.

Getting the boys fired up.

Tell us what he said in the pregame.

Reenact the pregame speech.

Get us fired up.

What do you mean?

Come on, do it.

Get us fired up.

Pretend that you're... Where are my dogs at? Okay.
at okay that was good and yeah we're about to do a podcast he said like uh i'm gonna spell d-a-w-g-s and then we'll go okay so you do it but do it for us for the podcast give me a D. D.
Give me an A. A.
Give me a g g give me an s s where my dogs at right here james did it better yeah i wasn't as fired up as the browns were if you were deshaun watson you saw that you'd be a little bit nervous right of course james is the bestis is the best. He's got a captive audience.
Everyone hanging on every word that he says. At bare minimum, if Deshaun Watson has an MVP-type year, even with an MVP-type year, the rest of the locker room likes Jameis more.
Yeah. No matter what, you have a backup quarterback that is liked more.
The whole building likes Jameis more. Correct.
And he doesn't have all that baggage that Deshaun has with the history. Correct.
Facts. Good Who's Back.
Thank you. Was that the last tweet you saw? No.
No. That's a good Who's Back, Hank.
Great Who's Back. Thank you.
Way to do your job. Thank you.
He's back. He is.
I thought your Who's Back was going to be elevators. No.
No elevators. We did get stuck in an elevator.
Oh, do tell. We were just going down.
We had too many people in the elevator. Was Max in it? Max was not in it.
I was not in it. That was a bullshit question.
I was not in the elevator. I'm just asking questions.
I got down safely. I got down safely.
Wait, so how many people did you get in the elevator? It was probably like 15. I think it's like a 2,000 weight limit.
We had a couple. And no max.
A couple big boys, a couple football players, former football players, Quigs. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Quigs allowed to get fucking shots. Hank, you were in there too.
I was in there. And I was like, oh, yeah, we're good.
Let's just squeeze on. And then we got to the first floor, and then you just felt it go even lower.
Wait, you got down to the first floor? Got down to the first floor, and then it dropped. Oh, you sank too low.
So they had to open the door. It took like 10, 15 minutes, and then we had to basically climb out onto the first floor.
Was that a Thrice and Krupp elevator? I know it wasn't an Otis. I don't know what type of elevator it was.
Otis would never malfunction like that. So, Hank, answer me this.
Had you been drinking alcohol before this? Yes. Okay.
So I would imagine if you're stuck in an elevator with 15 people that had been drinking. Not Max.
Not Max. Somebody had to go to the bathroom at some point, right? No, it hadn't got to that point.
Everyone was pretty chill. Everyone was freaking out.
We were squeezed in pretty tight. That's a nightmare.
It good it was good vibes i think it if it went another like 10 minutes then you know some people might have been like claustrophobic or you know had to pee but it wasn't too too bad i'm so mad that max wasn't on that elevator did you get some tunes going i was playing some music yeah what's good elevator music billy strings yeah you're with Billy. Well, that was just what was on my Spotify being played.

So I just, you know, pressed play.

Kept it going.

Fired it back up.

We also were playing it.

We were playing a great playlist.

I think you asked for it.

I just looked it up on Spotify.

The playlist is called just Vietnam War Music.

Yeah, yeah.

I was watching the planes at Hank's place and they brought the helicopters out.

I was like, we got a blast fortunate song.

Yeah. It's a must.
But it's a great playlist. I've been playing it all day.
Nice. You've got a little mini Vietnam going on in your brain right now.
It's a constant Vietnam in my brain. Just try to avoid landmines.
No one's winning. Yeah.
A lot of resources. No one's winning.
All right. Elevators being, I've been stuck in one elevator in my life it was brutal it's just like that first five minutes like are we getting out are we never getting out and then you realize you're probably gonna be fine yeah did you call the fire department no it wasn't i wasn't that worried about it until once we got out i was like that was kind of bad like.
You had to step. So what if you got caught when you were stepping up? Or, yeah, if you were stepping up and the thing came down.
Yeah. That would have been bad.
Yeah, it would have been real bad. It would have been a shame.
Real bad. Okay, PFT, you're who's back.
My who's back of the week is the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah.
They just redid Lucas Oil Stadium. They did some renovations to it, some major renovations, to the point where i don't think they could open up the roof they opened up the window uh and they were trying to open the roof up but they couldn't i guess they've taken some things down from the stadium and the stadium roof is not used to being open in this new configuration one of the things they took down uh was sent to our office it's a piece of nfl history to say lightly um jim ursay specially packaged up and sent over first of all very nice letter yes for myself and big cat normal signature totally cool signature uh referred to as mr cat mr commenter i like that touch and he added in a little line about sometimes it takes a real friend to tell you when you're pissing in the wind yep So we opened up the package and what's inside but the 2014 afc finalist banner the one that was hanging up in lucas oil stadium so we have that here at barstool hq the deflake game it's the deflake game that hank actually is responsible for that banner yes and arrested because of that banner yeah that you can't tell the story story of the NFL without the 2014 Colts AFC finalist banner.

We've had a lot of fun with that banner over the years.

I think Memes has made like 70 Photoshop's of it.

And now it's ours.

And we got to figure out a place to hang it up.

We own it.

We own it.

But thank you to Mr. Ursa and the Colts.

Never in a million years. I knew that there was a package coming from them.

Never in a million years did I think it was going to be that banner. No.
So we tried to find a place to hang it up in the office. It's so big that there's maybe one or two places we can hang up, but we have to figure out a good place for it.
Yeah, we do. It's an incredible gift.
It is a piece of NFL history. Thank you to Mr.
Ursa. Also, very funny way to rid yourself of that.
Yeah. Because putting it back up, you really can't do.
been mocked a lot but to send it to us it's like we have it now yeah tj had a very good suggestion which was to get christian yushek to make jackets out of it i want to i want to upholster re-upholster i like that all of any woodhead just turn it into the banner on the inside the entire inside of vanny woodhead is just the banner what if we just uh got in touch with darren revell and clit and had him cut it up and then make trading cards probably with actual pieces of the banner on it we also had uh speaking the colts uh my new favorite nfl fan uh i didn't know this guy he apparently he's like i don't know colts fans know who he is. Flow with Seth makes a music video before every

game, including

preseason games. I'm going to play you

Flow with Seth. It's only 30 seconds.

His preseason music

video for the

Broncos versus the Colts preseason

week one. Shout out this guy.

We need to maybe get him to do a custom

song for us.

This is our Colts. This is our team.
We bleed blue. This is for preseason.
This is our Colts. Whether win or lose, we love them.
For the shoe, beat the Broncos. Let's show them who the real horse is This is our team Go Colts The nay really does it for me The nay does it for me That was horrible What are you talking about? That was awesome That's a football fan, Hank That's a football guy through and through He makes a custom song for every game I like the let's show them who the real Horses.
Yeah, and then the nay. The nay was everything.

The nay went like, you're kind of listening to it, like, I don't know, I don't know.

Then the nay hits, and you're like, this guy rocks.

I think Hank had already written him off after the opening line.

That was sad, Hank.

Yeah.

Take it back.

Flo with Seth is the man.

Flo with Seth is the man.

Say it.

No.

Okay.

He can do better.

He can do better.

I don't know. He can do better.
It was week one.'s pre-season for flow with seth too that's facts get used to it um i was thinking if they tried to auction off that banner how much it would go for and then i realized we'd probably the only ones that would bid on yeah we were just we'd drive yeah we'd drive the price up yeah yeah awesome gift awesome gift did guys like Flo with Seth? Loved him. Okay, good.
Voice of an angel. Yep.
I think the banner, I think we can put it behind the video board. Yeah, it needs to be somewhere prominent.
That's what I was thinking too. But that's pretty prominent.
You walk in and you see it. I just love it.
I look at it and I smile. Yeah.

It does need to be hung up.

I want to see it all the time.

It's probably the nicest gift I've ever gotten in my entire life.

Yeah.

Yeah, probably.

Yeah.

Think about it.

Yeah.

Like, what could top that?

Oh, they're trying to figure out if they can put it up.

We're trying to think of if we can make it our entire booth.

It's way too big.

No, but they could do it.

Like, all the way around.

Like, even on top, maybe.

Well, yeah. No, but everyone would do that in their dorm room trying to be cool.
Put the flag little drape down. Yes.
Like get the vibes right. I think PFT is jealous.
No, we can look at it. I want to find a good place.
I'm just telling you because I got to lay eyes on this thing when it was unfurled. It's way too big for that room.
But what if we wrapped it where it was on every single piece? Yeah, I'm thinking completely all the way around. I still think it'd be too big.
No, even in front of the glass. Yeah.
I can live with that. We should give it a try.
We should give it a try around the room. Okay, my Who's Back of the Week is a pga tour because uh graham mcdowell on the live got uh one game one week suspension uh for using nasal decongestant that's what he said yeah he said that it was vix yeah it was vix uh banned substance either way i was shocked to know does this count for announcers too because jake might be yeah time.
Yeah. But I was shocked to know that live had a steroid problem.
I thought that was the entire point. It was like, Hey, Dustin Johnson, come play on our tour.
Right. You're good.
So the PGA tour is back. Yeah.
Like this is bad for the live. You can, you have to, you, you, you have no rules.
You play golf with shorts. I'm pretty sure that they could say they could sweep this under the rug.
If you, who is it? Graham McDowell graham mcdowell yeah if it was somebody not named graham mcdowell that made the money the next event he'll be at is the live chicago event maybe we should go out with the big asterisk poster board i'm gonna use so much nasal spray before i am i can't believe you took away the game we love wait is that that's the next event that's the next well he's suspended event. Okay.
And then the next event he can play in is the Live Chicago event.

But yeah, when they said golf but louder, I didn't think it was going to have, you know,

Vic's vapor rub was going to be included.

Yeah.

It's fucked up.

Yeah.

They should.

You should.

If you're the live tour, make everything legal.

Yeah.

Have it be steroids, but golf.

Right.

Tackling.

Yes.

In a football.

In a football.

And then your championship game is in February. And then you redo the tee shot at the beginning.
I mean, they- Make it very confusing where nobody knows what's going on. They definitely will try to create a football league.
I'm in. Saudis.
More football. Yeah.
All right, Huey, your who's back of the week. My who's back, the good old quarterback controversy.
It's a perfect time of year for that. I think right now in New England and Denver, maybe a little talk about it happening in Tennessee maybe.
Oh. It's always the mid-tier teams.
It's never the top-tier Super Bowl winningwinning potential teams who are in quarterback controversies.

But the quarterback who could be a controversy

could come out like a Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn situation.

There could be a guy who comes out of this.

So it doesn't mean that they're going to be a guy this year,

but this could be a future thing, especially for a Patriots or a Denver.

This is the season.

This is the time when we all yeah

and i feel like in denver at least sean payton has said so many nice things about bo nicks you know how coaches don't really give a shit what you do in the preseason yeah sean payton probably felt like he had to let bo nicks have a great performance so he probably schemed some shit up for that's so he didn't look like an idiot that's a reputation pick yes his reputation is on the line.

I think the same with Penix,

although Kirk is going to be the

starter. look like an idiot that's a reputation pick yes his reputation is on the line um i think the same with pet penix uh although kirk is going to be the starter but yeah it is fun having this time of year well it's fun being on the other side yeah there's i don't have a quarterback no controversy here it's fucking as much as i love tyson bayesian there is no country yeah there's i literally have no other good quarterbacks yeah there was the year that the bears brought in brought in.
We brought in Foles and Andy Dalton. That was sad.
That was the saddest quarterback controversy. By the way, we should have said Foles.
Happy retirement. We didn't mention it on Friday.
Hank, your favorite Foles memory? None. None? You can't think of one? Nope.
Come on. Snow game.
Snow game was cool. You remember when you threw that? I don't know if he was a quarterback.
Wait, he didn't throw it. Fuck him.
Didn't he at one point catch a ball in the Super Bowl? Was it in the same game that Tom Brady didn't catch a ball? Where he dropped it? That seems like a very special play. It does seem special.
no i i like that play max what uh where does nick foals rank for you all-time eagles top five top five top five yeah for sure i mean yeah i guess that makes sense for sure without a doubt he didn't play long enough to be number one. More than Hertz? Yeah.
He won a Super Bowl. He did? Yes.

Right now,

football. Without a doubt.
He didn't play long enough to be number one. More than Hertz? Yeah.
He won a Super Bowl. He did? Yes.
Right now, Foles is above Hertz. What a career for Nick Foles.
Yeah, Nick Foles, not a Hall of Famer, but he did have that one season where he, like a magical season. We should do a Mount Rushmore of guys that had like- Well, he had two magical seasons.
Yeah, he had the one season that people... 22 and two, was it? 22 touchdowns, two interceptions.

Two interceptions.

It was crazy.

He couldn't throw a pick that year.

Yeah.

But no one thought...

That was for Chip Kelly, yeah.

And then we traded for Sam Bradford.

Yeah, but he had...

Let's see.

Nick Foles, Super Bowl, and...

Oh, this is...

He's got $87 million in the bank.

Cash.

Pretty good.

The snow game.

Also, this is very...

Yeah, that's on me.

Very depressing because I just pulled up his earnings.

I'm going to go to the bank cash. Pretty good.
He made the snow game. Also, this is very- Yeah, that's on me.
Very depressing because I just pulled up his earnings. I was at that game.
His birthday is January 20th, 1989. Oh, no.
I thought- That was what my- If you listen back when I said, oh, that was because I saw 1989, I was like, he just retired. He's four years younger than us.
If you had asked me, I would have said 1983. That sucks so bad.
He seems so old, right? God damn it. Nick Foles is old as fuck.
Oh. Actually, I was thinking about this side tangent.
If LeBron wanted to, how long do you think he could play? So he's embracing the gray thing. I don't know if it's a Paris pair of steel where he's like i'm gonna let my beard grow out and have it be gray so everyone sees how gray i am yeah oh old old king still reigns that type of thing um but based on the way that he played uh if he if his if his steroid guy is still around i think i'll get to the steroid mount rushmore i I think he could play another five years.
But hold on.

I asked that incorrectly.

If he embraced being like, I'm not going to be LeBron James, but I'm going to play till I'm not good enough to play in the NBA. I think it'd be 10 years.
Maybe. Like, if he, in five years from now, said, I'm cool, like, being a coming off the bench for five minutes a game, he will be better at 45, five minutes off the bench than a ton of players.
I think at least five more years. Right.
At least. It's very interesting.
I know that that's not how he's going to want to go out. He's not going to want to go out being on the bench.
But he's the first time where it's like what's his name? Haslam did. No, wait.
Yeah, you don't have to. Yeah, you don't have to.
Haslam. But he wasn't actually contributing at the end.
But LeBron, it's crazy to think. But I actually would say that LeBron, if he wanted to play basketball at 50 years old, could probably make an NBA roster.
He probably could, yeah. I don't think that's that far off because right now he's still top five in the world.
Easily. Top 10.
I think he's probably top five in the world. In the world now.
Top 10. In the U.S.
Top 10. But still, I feel like he could.
Well, Tatum's better. Is he? If they were on the same team, who do you think would get the menace? Hank, we didn't mean to get back to this point.
It just happened. What happens with LeBron? It's the magic of the show.
I was bringing up an actual hypothetical. We just ended up back in this spot.
If you were to take the five best players from the United States, would you have LeBron in there or Tatum? Tatum. But if you're trying to win.
So would he be in the closing lineup? He should be. He'd be in my closing lineup.
Okay. Yeah, I think at least five more years.
Yeah. I kind of want him.
LeBron, you can save your legacy for me personally, which I know you care so deeply about, if you just try to push it as far as you can and see if you can play when you're 55. Jordan never won sixth man of the year.
Right. He could be, I don't know, it'd be cool.
It'd be cool to see. He wouldn't do it, but it would be cool to see.
You get an entire season of load management. Right.
Just put him in. I'm going to go as hard as you can for five minutes.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Let's get to our incredible interview with Matthew Stafford, and then after that we will do our Mount Rushmore, hopefully not as contentious as yellow.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is a future Hall of Famer, Super Bowl champ.
It is our Grit Week interviews presented by Coors Light. it is a future hall of famer super bowl champ uh it is our grit week interviews presented by coors light it is matthew stafford first of all thank you for joining us of course thank you guys for having me on yes so we start every grit week interview with the same question how would you define the word grit oh man that's the good stuff um that's just being able to uh fight through whatever is ailing you whether it's a situation or how you're feeling but uh being able to push through anything to uh get whatever the goal is accomplished right whether that's winning a football game having a good play um you know rallying for the next night out whatever it is you gotta have a little grit separating your shoulder yeah coming down the field that clip uh you are a gritty.
You've gone through a ton. I mean, you've gotten hit a million times.
You're tough as hell. Do you ever watch that clip of you famously separating your shoulder and then being like, hey, come out? And you're like, no, I'm not fucking coming out.
Do you watch that and be like, man, I am tough? No, I usually think about that clip or I see that clip and I just start wincing again. But no, it's a cool thing that I got.
Luckily to have been mic'd up by NFL Films for that moment. Otherwise, everybody's just calling me an idiot.
Get back up. Let's go, you wuss.
But it was kind of a cool moment to have. Yeah, cool.
You were like, get off me. You actually had to push trainers off you.
Yeah. Does that usually work? Yeah, usually.
They're kind of know you can kind of get what you want um when it comes to those guys so no i uh yeah that was a weird one right they called time out and for some reason in my head the moment it clicked it was like that counts as basically my play that i had to sit out so i could go back in and i knew there was only going to be one more play so i could get through one play with whatever what's going on what hat are you wearing right now what is that uh dodger hat dodger hat do you know anyone that plays for the dodgers no i don't you know just a just an outside fan you never went to school with anybody no just you know from uh from the outside looking in really can we fact check that really uh do a deep dive i don't know if anybody's heard of it i mean you play the game so you don't listen to the games do you know how annoying that is yeah i mean i do yeah i mean all my friends and family do the same shit to me all the time and give me a tough time. But yeah, I get it.
It was cool 10, 12 years ago, but everybody gets it now. And now we add Scotty.
Scotty, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's just too much.
It's crazy. It's too much.
It's wild. When he got arrested, were you like, oh, man, this is dragging our high school.
No, I was like, good for you, bro, man. You're just trying your tee time, man.
Guy's just trying to make his tee time. Yeah.
Do you ever feel like you don't get enough credit for doing the no-look passes? I don't know. I don't think about it too much, to be honest, as far as credit goes.
I know that they're fun when they work. They're kind of shitty when they don't.
But it's part of it. I think defenses are are so good these days these guys are so good at reading what we're doing with our eyes so I'm just trying to take advantage any little way I can how long have you been doing that is that something that's just more of a recent thing that we're noticing because there's more camera angles everywhere or were you doing that like way back in the day um you know I think it's probably you know uh been publicized a little bit more recently but I was having to do that probably back in the day with Calvin.

Everybody in the building, I was trying to throw him the ball,

so I had to find different ways to make it look like I wasn't throwing him the ball

and try to move underneath coverage to throw it to him.

But, yeah, I mean, it's definitely gotten more publicity, I guess, recently,

but I had to do that with Megatron, just trying to get him the ball.

Yeah, when he retired, how often would you call and be like can you just maybe just just one more game love god please come back like i need you no it was uh you know what like that's one of those he was such a special player such like a generational player such a great teammate that i was i was genuinely just so happy for him that he was walking away when he wanted to walk away he was an all- great. We all knew it.
It was unbelievable to get the chance and the opportunity to play with him as a young player. But I was so happy for him, and I'm still so happy for all his success.
But, you know, yes, our team was better when he was out there. There's no question about that.
But I was happy for his career and his ability to walk away when he wanted to, which I think is such a cool thing. Do you have a favorite throw ever?

No, probably not.

There's got to be at least one or two that are up there.

There's a couple good ones that I can remember that were kind of fun and meaningful.

In the Dallas game back in the day at Detroit, big comeback late in the game.

That last two-minute drive, I ended up hitting a rail shot to Chris Durham,

who was my college roommate.

Played a few years in the league with me and hit him on a long ball

down the left side into like a two Tampa coverage, which was a cool shot. In London against the Falcons, we were down big, and I think it was the touchdown, I think that got me the career Lions TD Mark, passing TD Mark,

I threw one to Golden Tate

that was just a launch that was a good one um do you know when it's like when you when you're throwing like a deep ball yeah you know the second you release you're like damn that i fucking that's a good i threw the hell out of that's a good one yeah no doubt yeah well that was kind of a weird one they were like hey hey every once in a while they would just kind of rush three drop eight and i just told gt i was like hey man just keep running yeah and it was one of those i kind of bought a little bit of time um it was third crazy long might have been 20 something like that and hit a long touchdown um similar to the one i hit cooper in uh tampa in the divisional round right like third and 19 they're like oh they're just gonna check it down and that that's when you can kind of go for the dagger every once in a while. Now you're going to throw a couple picks doing that too, but some touchdowns that get you back in a game or do something big.
Yeah, that one against Tampa was sick. We also have a coworker who's the most annoying person in the world who's a diehard Bucs fan, and he literally snatched the soul out of his body, which was awesome to watch.
I love that. That was a crazy, crazy game.
I mean, honestly, the deep ball to cooper in that game to put us in field range is like yeah as far as a full play i mean the situation the whole thing that was a really really special weird question for you yes um first time you ever checked your amex points how many did you have this might have been a question from a weirder guy dan orlovsky oh gosh i don't know orlovsky did i tell him it's i don't know yeah he's just said that i said what it's a lot of points i've never used any let's put it that way i've never will you ever use any i don't know i'm kind of at the point now where i'm like i don't know if i will so our boss dave he has 60 million points and he said he will never use them i don't have that many but uh so you'll never use me i have a lot yeah i have a lot of points and you're never gonna use but i don't i don't know i don't think so wow what i love that what if somebody like wants your points like you're not i mean we could talk about it afterwards if that's okay you want to do your points listen i i don't want to say like i i didn't i'm a bears fan so i obviously lions and bears are playing but i always was like i respect the fuck out of stafford i had to take that you're going to be a Hall of Famer in 2018, and people laughed at me. Well, I appreciate that.
That sounds like it should be worth a few amics. Yeah, I can throw a couple points your way.
Have you thought of that, though? Amex points? Well, Amex points, but yes, also Hall of Fame. Your career has been phenomenal.
You are, and my point at the time was look at his longevity. If he has a deep playoff run, obviously win a Super Bowl, he's going to be right there.
And if you look right now, three to four, if you play three or four more years, you're going to be top five passing yards, top 10 touchdowns. Have you had a second to look back and be like, damn, like I'm stacking it up here.
Uh, yeah. I mean, I think I definitely every year that I play now, I just appreciate so much.
And I think back on, I mean, we were just talking about, you know, plays from my rookie year and it's like, man's like man that was a long long time ago I walk into a locker room with guys that were six seven eight nine years old when I first came into the league which is kind of crazy to think about um but I definitely appreciate my opportunities appreciate this game I mean it's given me a ton uh I hope I got three or four more left in me we'll see every year is a new year but uh I do feel good and and as far as the history books and all that kind of stuff, I have so much respect for this game. Like, I was the kid that grew up watching NFL films, watching Steve Sable and those guys, voiceover stuff.
And like, I was all in on Johnny Unitas and slinging Sammy Ball and all the guys, right? So I have a ton of respect for this game. And just being anywhere near guys like that in that kind of conversation is incredibly humbling and um something that uh you know i don't think about on a day-to-day basis but when it comes up man it's a it's a ton of appreciation for me yeah well i had your back yeah people i was going back through it today looking at it people like no chance yeah it's like dude he's been he's played so many games yeah i appreciate it yeah it's crazy super bowl on top of that yeah so what like a million amex points yeah i can get you that okay all right that actually speaks very highly for dan orlovsky the fact he is a great analyst if he knows how many amex points you have yeah the guys and you don't even know yeah he's a deep diver it's also very weird that he knows that i'm gonna check my password when we leave here just to make sure it's not orlovsky 8 do you ever tell dan like hey chill out man like you you love me a little too much no i don't you know i just Accept it all.
Orlovsky 8. Do you ever tell Dan, like, hey, chill out, man, like you love me a little too much? No, I don't, you know.
I just accept it all. I accept it all.
Keep bringing it. He's the man.
I had such a great time. He's such a good dude.
He's such a great guy to be, you know, a part of a team with. He was a great backup for me and taught me a lot.
So I appreciate Dan and everything he says. Did you get a little bit jealous when he started going hard about Carson Wentz? You're like, oh, no, does he have an issue? Yeah, I thought that was kind of fucked up.
I thought it was a trustee thing, and he just decided to turn his back for a minute. He came back.
Yeah, yeah. If you love something, set it free if it returns.
I mean, you throw a guy MX points, he'll do anything, you know? Yeah, yeah. So he'll turn right back around.
So I pulled up a stat earlier. Since 2011, you have the most fourth quarter comebacks of any quarterback.
Have you considered sucking less in the first three quarters? Yeah, I think about it, but that's such a good stat. I can't let that go to somebody else.
Three, four games a year, just kind of toy around the first three quarters and then figure it out late. Mr.
Comeback. Mr.
Fourth quarter. Why not? Yeah, I got a weird question our good friend tony scheffler he played with detroit when dave and i beat him two on one in his uh driveway did anyone in the lions locker room give him shit for that uh i don't know that we did but uh man how is tony doing i haven't talked to tony in forever yeah he's the freaking man he's the best i love that guy he was all-time celebrations guy yeah the the uh in tampa bay bay the buccaneer sword the kansas city chiefs he had the loin cloth we were he was making the smoke uh smoke signal he was all-time celebration guy super fun guy great dude the one of the hall of fame dude who's your favorite teammate you've ever played with oh man um that's That's a good question.
I got a bunch, man. I think early on, the offensive linemen, the guys that I had, like Dominic Riola was a big time.
Great teammate, taught me a bunch. Also kind of a psycho, but in a good way.
Yeah, kid baller. Yeah.
I mean, unbelievable talented quarterback. You're his godfather, right? Yeah, he's a stud.
He's one. Nate Burleson was a great dude to be around.
All-time fun guy to be around. Didn't have that long of a stretch with him.
Obviously, the guys here, Aaron Donald, Cooper, those guys are unbelievable. Do you still eat breakfast with Cooper every morning? Yeah, pretty much.
We sit in there. We were watching tape this morning a little bit.
We were actually watching the 2017 Rams-C colts season opener why because we wanted to see what the first game how the offense has evolved since sean's first game here calling it to now it's quite different and then we turned on 2018 rams uh lions at the lions and watch me lose a game which was kind of shitty but that's tough are you ever like hey can we watch something else besides football yeah i think about it all the time but you know cooper would be that's totally off limits totally off have there been any other players that are like you know trying to to kiss up a little bit too much to you and you're like i want to get in the breakfast club no you know it's i it's not even like an exclusive thing like puka's in there a bunch too um our cafeteria here I don't know if you guys have been lucky enough to have a meal here. We have not.
It's tight quarters. Yeah, please.
Okay. Please, on me.
On me. It's tight quarters in there, so there's not a whole lot of seats and tables.
And, you know, we're in the process of moving into a new facility. So it just kind of migrated into the QB room because we're always getting notes and stuff from Sean early anyways.
It's not some exclusive closed-door meeting thing. Everybody passes through and set us up.
Yeah. Going back to last year's playoffs, how tough was it to go back to Detroit? I know obviously you have that history.
All your daughters were born there. Was it a moment where it's like, man, this is going to be difficult, even though we've got to go play a game.
There's just more energy to it. Yeah, definitely.
It definitely was. I would be not human if I wasn't feeling some of those emotions, even like the week of practice, thinking about it, and talking to people that meant a lot to me in my life and in my career that still live in Detroit and are a big part of the community there.
So it definitely was, you know, kind of – it meant a lot. It was tough.
And then when I walked into the stadium, I definitely felt it. But once the ball was that, man, it was time to go.
I was just trying to throw for as many yards as I possibly could, score as many touchdowns and beat the hell out of them. It didn't go down that way, but that's all I was to do don't worry we gave sean a ton of shit for punting okay so he'll never do that again just because we shamed we're gonna go for every fourth down the fourth and 14 let's go that's stafford zone were you surprised at the uh the welcome they got in detroit no honestly i was uh i know what kind of fans they are and and like honestly i totally understand it i get.
They're going to want to do everything they can to make my life as uncomfortable as possible. They haven't had a playoff game there in 30 years, so they're going to be jazzed up for whatever.
The fact that it was me and our team, I'm sure it was even more so. That was honestly one of the best atmospheres I've ever played a football game in.
Sean and I talk about it all the time, and it was incredibly loud. we came up for warm-ups and there was not an empty seat yeah yeah and i mean it was go time from the the second we first stepped out of the tunnel so it was uh it was a lot of fun it was a great game were you rooting for them after they won uh no i'm not rooting for anybody at that point yeah um i have a couple teammates that i wanted to like ex-teammates that i really wanted to see play well, and they did.
But at that point, I wish everybody could lose. Yeah.
I like that. I like that.
Do you watch the playoffs? Sometimes, you know, it's hard. Yeah.
You know, I'll peak it, but I'm not, like, invested being like, oh, that'll be a good matchup next week. I'm like, F this.
I want to be out there. Yeah, right.
Yeah, so after you win a Super Bowl, though, it's probably got to take – does it take a little bit of the sting out of losing the playoffs? I think it's almost the opposite in the fact that, like, I know what that feels like now. You know, I've got to lose it in the first round.
I got that one locked up. I know what that one feels like.
Only gotten one taste at the Super Bowl, and I'm like, man, I want to do that. And when you get those opportunities – I've had so many years where we didn't have that opportunity at all to play in the playoffs that when you get um you know the opportunity you're really close you know i mean like the fact that you know detroit did what they did after they beat us man if we win that game who knows what happens so it's um i it makes it you know almost even harder to be honest chasing the dragon yeah another parade yeah you had fun at the parade yeah yeah i was gonna ask i was gonna ask if you remembered thinking that you were in st louis during the parade but you probably don't remember anything did you say like what's up st louis no i uh i don't know i uh i was having a good time uh that one was uh an early start limited breakfast all the good recipe for for a tough day but you know what we had a good time we enjoyed it we as from a fan's perspective, when guys get super drunk at the championship parade, it's the best.
It's like, that's what you should do. I know, right? I kind of felt bad about it, and Kelly was like, what are you talking about? You've been playing this game for forever, getting your ass kicked.
You deserve to do whatever you want, and I was like, yeah, I guess so. Have fun.
Speaking of your wife by the way are you nervous that she and jersey jerry have dm'd before uh yeah i guess i guess i am yeah i am uh she's gonna end up playing madden with him yeah that's great i can't wait and she's also he's also gonna find a way to get like all your signed memorabilia from your house oh perfect when it goes missing i'll know where to look uh yeah i uh i have no idea social media is a monster that is lost on me but i'll do you a favor i'll watch jerry for you thank you i'll make sure because if there's like some weird like stafford cleats showing up to the office yeah where'd that come ship them back yeah he's definitely gonna say like hey uh can you can you grab me a signed jersey? My son's a big Matt Stafford. Yeah, right.

Yeah, his name's also Jersey Jerry.

Yeah, right.

Make an autograph out to him.

He DMs a lot of players, players' wives, players' moms,

so at least you have that.

Okay, good.

I feel safe there.

That's just kind of his thing.

Yeah, right.

Actually, you'd be lucky if it was her sending you your shoes.

He's probably going to ask for her shoes.

Yeah, that's crazy.

That's what you got to watch out for, Jerry.

Little shoes.

You don't want those.

Quick break from Matthew Stafford. Talk about Hard Knocks.
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Yeah, I don't even know who that is. No, Chad's the man.
I'll tell you what, I'm not quite at the LeBron status where I just get to bring and hire whoever I want, but Chad is the man. I used to throw to him all the time in the offseason too.
He was like my receiver back in the day. But, yeah, I mean, we've been trying to get him out here some way somehow he would go great in california with the blonde flow i mean it's i mean sean just hired his best friend from college that's true but uh i don't make the coaching hires if chad could still run a route i could maybe get him a tryout as a receiver but no it's it's really cool to watch his career um you know and their family grow it's been cool yeah all right so just remember the name chad hall he's going to be a head coach oh yeah absolutely yes absolutely is he he's known as the best wide receiver coach that is what i rocked it on buffalo there for a long time yeah um and he's crushing it in jacksonville now so he uh he does a good job and that's not from him no no no no yeah i read that off that's from a different guy top my head yeah that's it well done so so what are we thinking for this year how are we looking to camp i know that uh coach told you guys not to fight right yeah have you fought anybody have you wanted to i have a theory that the new guardian the caps that they wear the soft ones yeah people are taking them off and swinging them at people more because they're softer well i saw some uh some clips from what detroit in new york the other day they were fighting pretty good and dudes were just smacking each other in the gardening cap but i guess yeah it doesn't uh doesn't hurt your hands as much i have not fought anybody haven't had the urge to yet i'm usually just too tired of practice to even think about fighting um but uh no we've we've we've kept the chippiness down which is good camp's been good um a couple guys dinged up which is like you know the worst you know for those guys i feel so bad for them you're trying to you know kind of come together but uh I feel good about this year so I as a veteran of the NFL for as many years as you played in it uh I imagine that going to camp every year in this middle of the summer you're like it's probably not a great feeling but also something you have to do something to learn like are you actually doing different things this year than you've done in the past no I mean it's, it's pretty standard for me.
I had one vet off day, the first day of pads this year. That was kind of like the only thing I've had that's been different than anybody else.
That was something that we kind of knew going into camp that I was going to do. But no, I mean, it is late July every year.
You just buckle your chin strap and get ready for a, you know, six, eight month grind. And, and it's, this is the start of it.
I know training camp has changed so much. When I first got in the league, I was part of the old CBA.
I mean, we were going two, three a days, full pads. I mean, just beating each other up for weeks on weeks.
And it's definitely player more, more player friendly now. But I also think it's just a better way to do it.
You know, I think we're getting better work out of it. Yeah.
So speaking of camp, how fast last year were you like, oh, Pukunuku is a dude? Yeah. I mean, Koop was out last year pretty quickly with a hamstring.
And we lost him. And yeah, I mean, you could kind of feel it.
You know, just physical. Like, it was always going to take time.
You're a rookie, right? Like, it's going to take time to keep understanding. but it was a testament to him to be able to learn on the go.
A lot of people need a full year to just learn and then go, and he was able to do it all in one. Physical tools are there.
I mean, big, strong, physical. So much of his yardage last year was hidden yardage, run after the catch.
And that stuff you can't really teach. You just kind of let him himself and and uh that's a pretty darn good player yeah yeah so go ahead i was gonna say on the college front um do you call the dogs do i call the dogs can you use the fan oh like a georgia thing they call on all the dogs they start barking at people oh yeah no i'm not like a yeah you know what i actually get wildly uncomfortable when people, bark at me or be like, they'll be walking down the street.
Oh, really? Go Dawgs. And I'm like, yeah.
I don't ever give them the Go Dawgs back. It just doesn't sit right with me.
I don't know why. It's definitely a player-fan disconnect.
I agree. We'll see, like, videos on flights, like, going across the country to a road game or a bowl game.
And there'll be guys just, like, jam-packed on Southwest Airlines just barking at the pilot when he gets on yeah what the fuck i'm screaming at me i'm like guys uh thanks you gotta start barking back yeah i need a little bark i know i need to my wife's from georgia so like yeah i gotta i gotta make her proud what what was your favorite game at georgia or your least favorite game um favorite game at georgia um probably two we had the the Blackout versus Auburn my sophomore year,

which was the first time we ever won black jersey, which was sweet.

We had a great game.

Keelan Johnson, I believe, with a pick on the first play, which was awesome.

And then Sugar Bowl that year against Hawaii was really cool.

Felt like we should have been in the national championship game that year.

We kind of got jumped because we didn't go to the SEC championship.

But went to New Orleans, had a good time in New Orleansleans and uh you know beat up on hawaii so that was a good one uh least favorite game probably at kentucky my freshman year got my helmet ripped off on a run qb run on third down kept running smashed in the forehead nose cut the whole thing so and we lost so i had the loss and just uh a mauled face for a couple weeks, which is a tough one. It probably looked pretty sweet, though, when it happened.
Yeah, I mean, I don't remember it that way. But as a fan, yeah, you probably thought it was sweet.
Yeah. Because I've seen, you seem to take a, how should I put it, a less physical approach to the game sometimes.
I've seen you out in space as like a lead blocker on a reverse. Oh, yeah.
Your it's something to watch yeah it is kind of like kind of get in the way yeah but then also kind of get out of the way nowadays nowadays i'm just talking to the defenders hey man hey man easy up easy up don't hit me you know i'm just trying to like you know get out of the way safely yeah but earlier in my in my career yeah i mean i uh i liked the physical part of the game a little bit more than i do now now. There's no question.
Yeah, in that game against Detroit, they beat you up pretty good. Yeah.
You got knocked around a little bit. Do you get mad in the games? Like when you have that adrenaline surge like you did in the rookie year, what we talked about, like are you mad? Are you mad that they're hitting you like that? No, it kind of fires me up a little bit.
There's only two ways for you to go react as a player, right?

You're going to either wilt and go sit on the sideline

and be intimidated by getting hit,

or you've got to charge yourself up and be like, keep bringing it.

I think the first, one of the early third downs of the game,

I threw one to Marcus Robinson and smashed my hand on the helmet

and got hit and hurt like hell,

but the only thing I knew how to do was just act like it didn't

and scream back at those dudes and get myself fired up.

That's grit.

It's a good one. hashed my hand on the helmet and got hit and hurt like hell.
But the only thing I knew how to do was just act like it didn't and scream back at those dudes and get myself fired up. That's grit.
How far can you throw the ball still? Still? Oh, man, I don't know. And maybe what was your peak? Yeah, I don't do it much anymore.
In high school, we went to that Elite 11 camp. I threw one 78.
That was like the longest I ever tried and threw it. I read a story that you story that you went to the manning passing academy or yeah they when you were on the manning cats maybe they told the story that they book eli and peyton were like we don't want to throw after stafford when you were like 17 years old because you were just like hucking it everywhere yeah back in the day i was the arm was live yeah it was live back in the day um taking a couple hits heard a couple things here and there but no i.
But no, I can still get it out there a little bit. I couldn't even tell you, to be honest with you.
It probably starts with a six instead of a seven like it used to, but it's probably a high six number. Do you guys not like catching your balls? Like when they come over from a different team, are they like, this guy, it hurts? Used to be that way.
Used to be when I was young and I didn't really know what I was looking at. Everything was coming out as hard as I could.
And I was trying to hurt people with it. Now I'm trying to help them catch it, which is better for the completion percentage.
People don't give Matt Stafford enough credit for your arm. Yeah.
Well, I don't know. It's whatever it is still anymore.
But back in the day, I could throw it around a little bit. Yeah.
Yeah. Did you ever play baseball? I did.
Were you on anyone's team? No. No.
Just kind No, no. It sounds like you've got a live arm.
It was a one-man show. Did you have the best arm on your team? No.
Oh. No.
Who did? That's crazy. Jake Felt.
I just picked another teammate. Jake, love you, man.
Shout out Jake. He's sitting in his office right now.
Fuck you. That's exactly what we needed another guy to talk about.
Yeah. A guy that nobody talks about.
Jake Felt. Jake Felt.
I'll tell you what. He was eighth grade.
You know, this guy was shaving in the eighth grade. He was an unbelievable stud.
We'd go to tournaments. He was winning MVP, hitting bombs.
Hell yes. Launching it.
Get that. Max Stafford and Jake Felt.
Jake Felt. Best it never was, Jake Felt.
I don't understand how people don't know that. Yeah.
But, fun fact about Jake Felt, five touchdowns in the state championship game, Texas high school record. Wow.
Jake Felt, legend. Jake Felt, legend.
And he caught, who threw those? Zero throws. Oh, so, wait.
How about that? What? Yeah. They were playing a lot of two deep show.
We were handing it off, coach. Take what to give you.
Jake Felt was just running with it? Running with it. Caught a pass from a receiver on a double reverse pass to a receiver.
Won 59 to nothing. It was kind of like a.
Jerry's World? No, back in the day, Tyler Rose Stadium. Jake Felt.
Jake Felt was a problem. We're going to just start saying that.
Like, who is the best to come out of Highland Park? Jake Felt. That's a Felt guy.
Ever heard Jake Felt? Yeah. He's going to be fired up.
Good for you, man. Deep cut.
Good for you, man. Who's going to hit? We got to have Jake Felt on this.
It was the last time you talked to Jake Felt? Yeah. He's going to be fired up.
Good for you, man. Deep cut.
Good for you, man. We got to have Jake Felt on the...
Have you once last time you talked to Jake Felt? I talked to Jake a decent amount. Oh, okay.
All right. All right.
Cool. All right.
Love that. We got to have him on the pot at some point.
Yeah, we got to. We actually are going to track him down.
Open invite. Yeah, we're going to track him down and we're going to interview Jake Felt.
That rocks. We're just going to be like...
What's in store for this year? Prediction. Record? Yeah.
I don't't do that um we're gonna try to win a whole lot more than we do uh lose but uh no it's um it's so much fun to get out there and do it man i i honestly do have a ton of fun with it um but as far as predicting a record i got no idea for you we'll see every year's a brand new brand new year if you'd have told me last year we're gonna be three and six at the bio i told you you're crazy because I thought we were playing really good. And then if I told you we're going to win 7-1, we're going to go 7-1 after that, you would have told me I'm crazy.
So it's just got to go out there and play them, and that's the cool and amazing part about NFL football is you kind of go into the season, you kind of know Georgia's going to be good. You kind of know Ohio State and those teams are going to be the big-time powerhouses, and then you come into the NFL, you're like, man, who knows? Nobody houston texans doing what they did last year so got to go out there and prove it every single year right how awesome was it at the end of the game against the commanders last year where uh ron rivera ran like nine plays inside the two yard line and he took like four minutes off the clock and didn't score a fucking point yeah off it are you bitter about that or no actually i was at the time i was very angry at the time yeah But because we lost that game, we drafted Jaden Daniels.
I think he's awesome. He's super fun to watch.
At least he was in college. And then an old backup of mine is a QB coach there, too, David Blau.
Shout out to David Blau. We did some good things for him.
Love it. David Blau.
Purdue? Purdue, Boilermaker. Wife ran the 400-meter hurdles.
That's right. When he was with the Lions, they did the whole deal.
The whole team watched it. I don't think she ran this year, but yeah.
Old David Blau's QB coach. All right.
So no predictions, but dream career. How many more years are you playing? I don't know, man.
I feel really good healthy right now um i know really good cliche answer no but i would say this yeah i mean i'm full of them um i've been doing this for a long time uh but uh no i do think that like there's no possible way i could tell you that answer right now because like at the end of last year i was like completely worn out and zapped right and then it takes me forever to kind of just get charged up to go again. And what I put myself through physically, emotionally, mentally, all that stuff for a football season, it takes a lot out.
And I got an awesome family that I love being around. So I don't know.
I know I'm going to enjoy this year. Hopefully I'm back next year playing.
Hopefully I'm back the year after that playing. But I can't make any fun.
But you feel great right now. I do.
do i feel really good matter i do yeah honestly like elbow was shit a couple years ago it feels great now there's a lot of me that has kind of revamped and feels a lot better so i feel good yeah it felt like when you're you're going through your elbow injury when you're trying to gut it out for a little bit like you had some weird games where you're like you had to like throw it weird i was i was in a bad spot yeah uh really you know that elbow started all the whole 21 season. I started wearing that sleeve because I was like taping myself underneath my sleeve just to keep the elbow going.
I heard it in camp that year and was able to get through that. And then we tried to do some things to help it fix.
And I had 22 was tough as far as the ability to go out there and execute. So it feels great.
Last year felt great. It feels good again.
Yeah. Are you like you like us as fans like if you have a bad game do you just try to avoid any sort of media coverage whatsoever and you're like i don't i don't want to listen to anything yeah i don't want someone to accidentally bring the game up then i have to listen to their dumbass like take about it because as fans we we avoid the media like the plague on monday tuesday probably wednesday even thursday then we're back into it yeah i don't want to accidentally catch any strays about like flashing back to that game yeah no i mean at that point monday tuesday wednesday i mean i'm like so moved on to the next game obviously i'm trying to figure out what the hell went wrong in the last game if we had a bad one or i had a bad one all right let's how do we fix it and if you're not thinking about the next opponent monday or Tuesday, like you Tuesday, you're way behind.
So that's where my focus goes, and I don't really do a whole lot of watching or listening to a lot of sports talk or any of that kind of stuff during the season for that reason. Stephen A.
Smith doesn't enter your head at all. No, Stephen A.
is not there. He doesn't have any space up here.
Hey, who would have won the between jim schwartz and uh jim harbaugh and that's a great throwback yeah um one of our i mean like harbaugh was already like derobing he was ready to shirt off at that point um so i mean like that's an early advantage you know we weren't going to be able to hockey pull the shirt over and go but uh no that would have been a good one to watch it would have been a really interesting one to see. That escalated quickly, as we like to say.
But man, I got to go with my guy that drafted me, Schwartz. I think he's a really sharp dude.
He probably would have found an interesting way to win that one. I think he would have had to kill Harbaugh.
Because unless Harbaugh is dead, he doesn't stop. Yeah, I mean i mean that's fair that's a fair point yeah did you ever tell coach schwartz that uh his nipples were showing because he always had like rock hard nipples you know that never came up okay you know you would think it was no it was just hallway i don't know what it was i think he was just so excited to coach football yeah i think he just gets geared up for it man just have that polo whatever it does it tucked in you know like damn have you noticed uh coach mcveigh's beards a little bit fuller yeah i think he uh i think he's always got a great beard yeah i mean is it all natural oh is that what you guys are yeah is he on the gear i don't know man he might be you know i'll have to i'll have to get back to you we're confirming he is he got we got out of him hair shot into his face yeah shit yeah that's a thing huh thinking it out yeah let him know he's not eligible for the hall of fame yeah i will yeah asterisk he's used he's shot asterisk yeah asterisk have you thought about by the way going to the hall of fame who you would want to give your introduction speech oh man uh no that's way too preemptive yeah i mean i was 2018 i was yeah no i can't think of anybody no i have no idea i wouldn't even want to speculate on something like that right now do you think about bad luck do you think about uh dying your beard no i'm full i'm full like whatever happens happens yeah gray situation i feel like it's i battle it yeah it's like you know what i got four daughters no shit you got a gray beard yes you know i mean i think that comes with the territory i get shamed for it all the time people just point it out every picture thank you i appreciate it that's crazy that you got four daughters yeah and there's only two parents yeah right so who watches the other two yeah nobody just kind of figured out yeah the old one it's like tag team you know they kind of come out come in come out come in we just hope we don't lose them when was the last time you got a full night's sleep um actually last night my my kids are actually uh vacationing at the beach right now so it's nice beautiful night's sleep it's why i look so rested yes good stuff thanks for saying um all right well matthew this has been awesome i got one last question chevy uh question go to chevy.com silverado toughest truck out there this might be a weird one you might not even have any idea who these people are were you ever in the same room or do you aware of super fan in Detroit Don two legends of the season ticket holding community in Detroit is that a crack man crack man or whatever no no they had a video famous video where they got kicked out and they were they they did a press conference from an alley.
I don't know that one. I don't know that one.
All-time video. I need to check that out.
Send it to me. Let me know.
Yeah, I'll say. The end zone.
They're the best. So I went.
I feel bad now. I went for the MAAC championship.
It was, I don't know, like 10 years ago, 11 years ago. And they said when they got kicked out, they said where their season tickets were.
So I went and bought tickets. I'm a Bears fan.
I hate the Packers. You guys were playing the Packers.
Went to the game, sat and watched the game with them, dressed up, everything. No shit.
It was the Aaron Rodgers Hail Mary game. That was a tough game.
Right in their face. They were sitting there telling me that they were – I don't remember what your guys' record was at the time.
We had just won the Thursday night game before that, or the Thanksgiving day before that. I think we missed the playoffs that year by one game.
Yeah, because they were doing the math. They're like, once we win this game, we're going to win the next one.
And then, boom, right in their face. Someone hurt.
Phantom face mask. Yep.
That's what Aaron, he gets away with that shit. Yeah, well, you know what? He should be in jail.
It was a nice toss. It was a nice toss.
I think we were in a tough defense. I think we had Ziggy Onsa guarding the sideline at that point, which didn't make.
Yeah, probably not the most sense. But yeah, Detroit, Don, and Superfan, they're big fans.
Appreciate you guys. They're what the crazy Detroit fans are.
We had Superfan on the show when the Lions made it to the playoffs just to get his reaction. And he said that there was a woman who sat next to him named Sprinkles who said, what's that, 2017?

She's like, I'm never coming to another game until they make it to the playoffs.

And then they saw her at the playoff game.

She showed up.

True to her word.

Yeah.

What a lady, Sprinkles.

Yeah.

I think she dressed like a clown.

Yeah, they thought she had died.

Yeah.

And they were like, what?

Sprinkles is my shit.

Yeah, so they brought her back to life.

Yeah.

Incredible.

Yes.

Good for them.

Yeah. But Matthew, thank you so much.
Best of luck this year appreciate it future hall of famer future giver of amex points to me former teammate of jake felt jake felt legend yeah and to let chef our guy and uh we'll watch jersey jerry because again appreciate it that's i need a little oversight there the minute you see that name i i don't even know what that conversation is like i don't want to know it's like hey i talked to this guy jersey jerry i'll uh i'll ask that's yeah we got to shut that down perfect i like that thanks man thanks for having me on guys appreciate it yep matthew staffer was brought to you by our great friends over at viator viator is a tool that you can use to plan and book travel experiences around the world.

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Okay. Time for Mount Rushmore.
Before we do that, we did promise that we would tell the Huey story after the Matthew Stafford

interview.

Huey,

obviously big lions fan.

He went up to Matthew Stafford and he said,

not,

Hey,

Matthew Stafford,

I'm a huge lions fan,

or thank you for being the quarterback on my favorite team.

He went up to Matthew Stafford and he said,

Hey,

Matthew Stafford, you're the first person I ever saw get drafted. I still don't really understand what that means.
And then we asked you, and he's like, well, I was nine. It was the first draft I watched.
Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense to me.
Yeah. So you don't remember any players ever getting drafted.
You don't remember Calvin Johnson. How old were you? I didn't watch it live, though.
He literally just saying physically he remembers. He didn't watch the draft before.
Where were you? Where were you when Matthew Stafford got drafted? On the couch. Yeah, nice.
First one. First player I ever remember getting drafted.
Yeah. Now, did you watch the draft the year after? Yeah.
Was it Sue? Sue and i don't know oh oh yeah i thought it was the sam bradford draft yeah it might have been yeah yeah that sounds right um yeah so yeah i do i get that's what got me into the draft i got super into all the drafts and got me into football but like the first season i ever watched was the owen16 season. Okay.
So I watched every game.

So the draft was your biggest game.

Okay, that makes more sense.

And then I kind of didn't know how the draft worked. And then the week of the draft, I kind of figured it out.

And I was like, oh, okay.

We're up first.

Snake.

Not the first pick.

Not a snake.

Yeah.

That would be sick if it was.

It would be.

I assumed Stafford was going to be a god day one. Like, all right, we're set.
He's the guy. And so that was weird when I had to deal with all that.
Huey, who was your favorite person to watch get drafted? Oh, it was Ndamukong Suh. Yeah.
Yeah. It wasn't he.
The year after. Yeah.
Because you knew what to draft. You were ready for that draft.
Yeah, I was ready. You were a draft vet.
Yeah, I've been through it before at that point.

I was so excited for that guy.

Stafford's face when you said that, he was just like, what?

He didn't-

But he laughed.

He was like, oh, okay.

Yeah.

All right.

I haven't heard that one before.

He probably has so many Lions fans that have gone up to him in his career.

Right.

And never once has somebody said that to him.

You were the first person I saw get drafted.

Like, that's impressive.

That's impressive.

Yeah, that's true. He's not going to forget that one.
No, he definitely will not. I love that because you're going up to one of your athletic heroes and being like, let me tell you about when I saw you on TV one time.
Yeah. It meant a lot to me to see you on my television.
Yeah. Do your name called.
I was getting emotional in the corner when you guys started to talk about the playoff game. Yeah.
And him getting his ass kicked in Detroit. That was...
It was very cool hearing both him and Sean McVay. Obviously, he's different with Stafford because of the time that he spent there.
But how much they loved that stadium and that environment. How cool they thought it was.
And Stafford was... I mean, we've been trying to get Stafford on forever and it did not disappoint just a fucking great dude yeah he's like awesome dude had a lot of fun uh talking to him hope everyone enjoyed the interview okay mount rushmore time so what is the score do we have it i can pull it up pull it up that's a slight little bit of controversy No, there's no controversy really.
Hank broke the rules. Yellow really set this thing off.
Feels like we're back into Mount Rushmore season. Yeah, I saw a lot of pictures of yellow cheese.
Thank you to everyone for having my back. What? Wait.
Yellow cheese. That wasn't what you said.
You saw no pictures of yellow pepper jack cheese. Wait, Hank.
All the pictures that people were sending you and me and Big Cat and Max, you thought that those were yellow pictures of pepper? They were sending that to you. Yellow-ish.
Get ready to get tortured, buddy. Get ready to get tortured.
What do you mean? Just this. Why? I don't think you're equipped.
Your brain's equipped right now. Oh, I'm ready to go.
Okay. So you cheated.
Yeah, but you cheated. I have the scores, by the way.
Okay, give us the scores. I mean, I came in dead last.
It didn't matter. But you still cheated.
I didn't. I did not.
You did cheat. The rule is you're not supposed to tip your picks beforehand.
The first tweet I saw from you on Friday morning was Coldplay Yellow. That was a coincidence.
You also had a picture of SpongeBob. These are your rules, SpongeBob.
SpongeBob and Pikachu. And you created that.
That was after you guys were slipping out. You created these rules.
Slipping out. Yeah, hey, you retweeted.
Yeah, I created the rules. I didn't break them.
You retweeted them out Rushmore, and you're not allowed to do that. I do that every fucking show.
You can't retweet the poll and say, vote for Team 2. No, you don't retweet the Mount Rushmore.
It's very different. Yes, I do.
You broke the rules on Mount Rushmore season, which we hold very near and dear. And that's what you do.
You've shown it time and time again that you break the rules. You don't care about the integrity of Mount Rushmore season.
How about minus one point? Him and PFT tied. I think that's fair.
No. Tied for last? Hey, when I broke the rules last year, you actually broke the rules.
What was the punishment that you had? I forget. You were the first one to break the rules in Mount Rushmore.
I think we gave you points. We need the commissioner of Rushmore to chime in.
You broke the rules in Mount Rushmore way back in the day. He broke the rules, but he also came in last.
Yeah, he came in last. The pizza drafts, you broke the rules.
Came in last, so it doesn't matter. Of what? This yellow.
Yeah, but this is a pattern. That's what we're saying.
There's a pattern of you flagrantly disrespecting Mount Rushmore season and the integrity of the operation. Which you did in the pizza draft.
Got it. All right, so what do you want to do? I'll just retire? Nothing.
All right, good. I don't want to retire.
You would be in last. I did see that clip of the pizza draft, which I had memory-holded some of it because you've put so much blame on us for ruining mount rush we seem like the bad guys and i forgot in that clip that before we admitted that we threw that draft you admitted that you had someone else make all the picks for you liam yeah not you which is illegal oh it's not it wasn't on your team you don't ask people for for...
No. Yeah, you do.
What? What are you talking about? Yeah, what? And Liam made your list. Wait, how many...
Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah. You ask people for help? No, but I'm sure you guys do.
No. What? It's not...
We're not doing rocket science. Yeah.
I was just curious. Okay.
All right, so Mount Rushmore of steroid users, alleged. We'll put alleged in for most of these people.
Do you want the score? I got the score. Yeah, yeah.
Hank, did you ask anybody for help in this draft? Yeah, I did. Billy Football? Oh.
He could be a pick. He could be a pick.
He could be a pick. All right.
Here's the scores. Max first 53.
You don't have to say it like that.

Big cat second 44.

Hank third 37.

Ooh.

PFT last 36.

And we have nine Mount Rushmore's left.

Is that it?

Hank got last place.

I got first place in the last one.

But memes, we need to figure out what the punishment is.

This is so we have nine Mount Rushmore's left because I believe we end it before the labor day is the last one it's gonna get tight boys okay memes i don't think hank should be yeah no punishment i think he should just be you should give him a warning though all right you get one You get one warning. There we go.
And then maybe another warning.

But I wanted a documented warning.

So when people look back at this summer's Mount Rushmore, it says the final scores,

but then it says Hank received one warning.

Actually, I'll find him.

I'll find him.

Memes, could you put that in writing?

Yeah.

A written warning?

I'll give him a fine.

$1,000 to the commissioner.

When people look back at the history of part of my take, and they go through every Mount Rushmore season,

it should say Hank one morning.

Do you agree?

I would love a suspension to do it.

Yeah, the yellow cold play, though.

We've never done that before.

I wasn't tweeting it.

That wasn't tipping a pick.

No, but you can't retweet it.

Oh, you just happened to tweet your pick that morning.

Yeah, it was just a video.

I mean, we could play that game.

You made this rule because we have bigger followings and we could play this game but we don't we we play by the rules like if i just tweeted out my pick in the morning everyone would be like oh i'm gonna go vote for that oh what you say you allege that i guess you do the whole reason we have the rule is because you're like the listeners listeners will vote for PFT and Big Cat over anyone else, so we can't let them know, and then you went and did that. It's almost like you did it intentionally.
Yeah. It's almost like you want to get kicked out of Mount Rushmore.
No, I guess that was a mistake. I wasn't really thinking that thoroughly about it, but that, I guess, by the letter of the law was wrong.
Your laws. What do you mean you weren't thinking that thoroughly? These are all points that you've said to us before.
You've made these laws on us. Yeah.
I wasn't tweeting it about my Rushmore. It was a great song.
I got reminded of it when I made the great pick, and then I was like, oh, it's a great song. Let me tweet it out.
It's not that good. Share it with my friends.
It's not that. Not in the top.
You came last. It's not my Rushmore.
It's cool to play songs. Yeah.
The anime freaks didn't show out. Shocker.
Part of my take in the anime crossover. We got a few.
Okay. Who goes first here? I'll rush more.
I go first. It's a terrible draft.
Shout out our guy at the meet and greet who gave us this idea. I think this is a good draft.
Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah.
This will also be a good. This will be.
It'll be a nice like change of pace from Friday. Yeah.
It'll be a lot of open-ended some more open-ended ones coming up, because I do like those the most. Yeah, but we needed a- We needed a straightforward one.
That one took a lot of years off my life, I think. We were arguing it days later.
Massabella, Italian, American, white. They're all white.
Yeah, no. There was times where I was laying in bed, and I was just thinking about the different white cheeses.

And then I was thinking, there was another time.

At one point, I was like, oh, that's a good argument that I should have used.

I was thinking, I was like, Hank said yellow Starburst.

Does that mean he gets all Starbursts because there's one yellow Starburst?

Oh, it really rattled you.

Well, taking yellow Starburst was maybe the worst pick out of it. yeah yeah the cold play song yeah it was very bad yeah yep all right so i first pick um pick patrick roams what nothing i did it i admitted it was a bad pick you haven't admitted any bad picks i said i got crazy with I got crazy with that one.
It was stupid. I got sometimes in Mount Rushmore.
I know the PFT can back me up, but sometimes you just like you just throw one and you're like, whoops, that was a mistake. I do it all the time.
Probably just happens where you just say it out loud and they're like, fuck, I wish I had that back. I should have said ice cream sandwich in the sandwich draft.
Yeah, right. It's a delicious sandwich, but it was a bad pick.
But it happens every Mount Rushmore season where it's just like you just lose your mind in the middle of a draft. Someone makes a good pick.
You panic. Patrick Mahomes gets picked.
I should have said meatball and pizza. Yeah, you should have.
Yeah. Didn't.
Okay. Okay.
My turn. Yeah.
First. I will go with I think steroids.
I think one person. I think Barry Bonds.
Yep. Okay, good pick.
That's a good 1-1. Yep.
That was a good 1-1. There are a lot of good picks, but that's the 1-1, I think.
Yeah. I still have my 1-1, but I had Bonds as 1-2.
It was Akin Seiko. Ooh, good pick.
Big steroids guy. He's like the Johnny Appleseed of steroids for Major League Baseball.
Taught everyone how to use it. Yep.
Bash Brothers. he looked like the johnny apple seat of steroids for major league baseball taught everyone how to use it yep bash brothers he looked like a like a uh like beached whale he was on so many steroids when he boxed billy um jose canseco's got to be one one yeah all right so i'll just stay consistent here mark mcguire broke the home run record that was steroid city he was also the tip of the uh the whole thing when they found the andro great intro yeah genius move on his part yeah by the way we don't talk about that's pr 101 yeah you leave a bottle of legal steroids in your locker so people talk about that and then that's the controversy yeah these are the i would say these are like the faces those are the three faces of steroids yep three Yep.
Yeah, the three pimply backs of steroids. Yeah, Mark McGuire.
He captured. I also, we should have said before, we got no problem with any of these.
Right. We like steroids.
They all should be in the Hall of Fame. Like, it's not a judgment thing.
Maybe not Canseco. No, his numbers probably aren't there.
Yeah. He lost to Billy football.
Well, yeah, that's the number one thing of why he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. But yeah, Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds, they should be in the Hall of Fame.
All right, Hank. I'm going to go with Lance Armstrong.
Good pick. Good pick.
And then I will go... Tough.
See, four is such a good spot. It is.
Four is a good spot. One.
Bangers back toers but yeah but then things are going to be pretty thin you get yeah there's a there's a wall like one one's a tough spot for this draft yeah Brian Cushon okay interesting I had him on my list he was much further down on my list but I had him I like it actually don't know. I'm going to take my next pick that I was planning on.
I would have even taken him one my first pick because he is also Mr. Steroid Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Yeah. I thought about him at one one.
I mean, he's like he actually also the way he talks about steroids is very funny. He's like I was prescribed by a doctor.
So. So now all these guys are doing steroids and it's bad.
Yep. But he was just roiding up.
He was. And I mean, all his, he's an icon.
Make you feel good about Brian Cushion? He's on my others. I did have him.
I had him as fourth round value. He's on my others.
I mean, he was roided out. He was.
And I think it was a combination of the arms with him screaming all the time with his bloody face. Yeah.
Good pick. Good pick, Hank.
Okay, P.O.D. I'm Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Hank's staring through my soul right now. He just...
Are you mad at me or are you mad at yourself? I'm not mad. I'm happy.
He took cold play again. I feel good.
He just did it again. I feel good.
Okay. Lance was a good pick.
Thank you. Lance had to go in the first round.
Had to go in the first round. Absolutely no-brainer for Lance.
All right. For my second pick, I'm going to go with Sammy Sosa.

Sammy Sosa.

Might not have done steroids.

Did steroids.

Definitely did steroids.

I don't was.

I think his head got twice as big.

I don't appreciate that question.

Didn't he get adult braces too?

I think he got braces when he was like 35 years old.

He was so pointed out.

I'm going to find that clip from this year when Luke and Ellis asked him if he finally is ready to talk about his steroid use. And he just didn't talk, right? No, he...
Hold on, I'm going to... This is what he said.
This is, like I say, this is um um not a question that i expected from you okay that's not a guy who did steroids yeah not a guy that's not a guy who did that's like the only question he's ever been asked i might have to put an asterisk on that pick pft big time steroid guy the biggest and he also did a genius movie he He did his own version of Andro, but it was with a cork bat.

Yeah.

Well, that was to put on a show for the people.

That was a batting practice.

I just love that he's still like, you can't be more of a steroid guy to have a steroid

question still like kneecap you in 2024.

Yeah.

Just say you did it, dude.

Just be like, not a question I expected from you.

Okay.

I'm gonna go with A-Rod.

Okay. Good pick.

I'm between two

A-Rod. I should have taken

A-Rod. No, I would have

suspended for a year. I would have rather

Well, you have another

pick. I know.
A-Rod. Oh, you're saying you would

have rather taken Sammy. I think I would have rather had Sammy.

I'll trade Sam.

You want to trade?

Can we do trades?

I mean, no, no.

We have the most passive.

We're basically, our commissioner is Bud Selig.

He's just like, I'm not looking at what you guys are doing.

All right, no trade.

No trade.

Okay.

This one's tough.

Between two guys. I'll go Roger Clemens.
Good pick. Roger Clemens.
Good pick. Yep.
Okay. My favorite Roy Rage moment from Roger Clemens was when he threw that bat at Mike Piazza.
Yeah. And then he yelled at him.
I thought it was the ball afterwards. Yeah, no.
He's a good. The other guy is probably a better player, but Clemens is more of a steroid guy.
Yeah. I mean, he just got so angry.
He's such a steroid guy. Yeah.
He got so angry. Okay.
PFT. I'm going to go with Vince McMahon.
Had him on my list. I had him on my list.
Yeah. Vince.
And he also did the butt ceiling where he just let everybody else use steroids yeah he didn't care he just was so fucking roided out that when he like the attitude era it was crazy yep crazy okay uh i'll go with someone different some may say best in the world best ever uh john jones yeah i had him on my list john jones the only thing about him is he did so many other drugs. Yeah, he did.
But he did do steroids. He did steroids also.
Yes. Yes.
He's a lot of guys. Yeah.
He's everything. He tried it all.
Okay. Hank.
Okay. I have two.
Yes. There's a big one there.
There's a big one.

Yeah.

Is there?

Yeah.

Really big one.

Big in his name.

Yep.

You would never pick him.

But you could maybe save your draft.

I will go.

There's honestly two guys.

Yeah, there's two guys. Actually, three.
Yeah. There's three guys.
There's three guys you could pick. What about girl? Should we give Hank five picks? No.
If he agrees to take Manny Papi and Nomar. No, I'll take Manny Ramirez.
Oh, okay. Oh, okay.
That was the one i was debating with with the way he got caught was very funny he was taking like a female fertility drug right yeah yeah and they had a system i think he just forgot he said he took his wife's by mistake no but they had a system they talked about it the guy that did it they had a system to kind of get by the testing that was foolproof manny ramirez just forgot and like took it on the wrong day came and got tested got got yeah busted he took the pill on the wrong day yeah because he's an idiot yeah and then i will go with lebron james oh oh interesting pick interesting very interesting that's fun that's a fun one hater of the year hank hater of the year. Probably you're not going to get any LeBron fans, which there are many.
LeBron sexuals are not going to like that one. I got a pick.
I mean, how is he not on steroids? Let me that. I'm not debating that.
I'm just saying. I'm not throwing a flag.
That's probably an honorable mention. Yeah, I have a pick that I don't want to hurt our future chance of having him back on.
Julian Edelman? No. I know where you're going, and I would take this.
Yeah. I will take this if you don't.
All right, fine. I will.
Peyton Manning's wife. Yep.
That was my fourth pick. I had him.
That was my fourth pick. All edged.
had Peyton Manning's wife. That was going to be that.
I almost took it 1-1, to be honest. I thought about it 1-1.
That was going to be my last pick. Yeah.
Yep, good pick. Thank you.
Thank you. Makes me feel better than everyone else would have done it.
Yep, people forget. Alleged.
Yep. But yeah, that was a hilarious story.
Very funny. And we're not saying Peyton did it.
No, no, his wife. His wife is a steroid guy.
His wife was coming back from a very bad neck injury. Yep.
Wanted to win a Super Bowl. Wanted to win a second one.
Okay. This is my last pick? Yeah.
I'm going to take Secretariat. I knew you were going to.
Secretariat, some would say the greatest athlete of all time time Yeah But it's heart was like three times too big We've documented that tirelessly on this show Secretary definitely on steroids Randy Moss, white Randy Moss Agreed chances are very very high That Secretary was doing steroids Dirty horse That's why Flightline's the goat Yep, Flightline is the is the goat okay max your last pick uh i really wanted peyton manning's wife that that's upsetting to me oh wow clip that there is another wife but you already know who you already you could get the couple roger clemens wife no i don't i don't i don't need was not as famous of a story, although there was the picture shoot. By the pool? Yeah, there's a big one out there.
I mean, I'll just go with Big Papi, but I don't know what you're thinking. I was thinking Tiger Woods.
Who? Did he? I mean. You could make the argument.
Yeah. I just went all baseball, which I hate, but whatever.

All right.

So, Hank, let's play a game where we'll do honorable mentions.

Tell us which ones you wouldn't take over Brian Cushing.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

Jared Karabas.

Terrible pick.

Okay.

Billy Football.

You'd rather have.

Nah.

Yeah.

Liver King.

Liver King's a good one I thought about taylor juan nah there's none of these pop no one uh hulk hogan i had hulk hogan i thought about it yeah decent but i'd still rather brian cushion what about dr dre didn't even know he was on steroids what about i actually think the when i think football steroids, Bill Romanowski You're old Oh yeah, that's right, he had a suitcase He broke the fucking face I should have went Stallone last Stallone, I had Ivan Drago If we want a fictional Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with wrestlers or actors Taking steroids We're not saying there's anything wrong with anyone taking... What about the Boz? When you think steroids, you think of rule breakers, not just like guys that get jacked.
Would you take the Boz over Brian Cushman? I don't know. Tony Mandrick? Nope.
You don't think of Schwarzenegger when you think of steroids? Oh, I definitely do. Yeah.
I think he's just jacked. Okay.
Joe Rogan? I'm going to come. Joe Rogan was another one that I thought about.
Would you take Joe Rogan over? Burr Kreischer? Nope. Nope.
Tom Segura? I like... Brian Cushing's a good pick.
When you see the name Brian Cushing, you instantly think steroids. Busta Rhymes.
Is he on steroids? Yeah, he's fucking swole, man. CT.
You sound like CT's a good one. Yeah, CT's a good one.
Also, what's his name? Wes. Yep.
Wes was a fucking classic steroid user. He was a skinny-ass fuck, and then he came back, roided out that one season.
Said he had over... A hundred companies.
He had a hundred companies, and then someone figured out he was just like... He just invested in a mutual fund.
Yeah. And so he owned technically a hundred companies.
Yeah. Eric Gagneagne he was a good one just because he was such a fucking head case uh his name translates to i win yeah uh deandre hopkins doesn't pop i like i like brian christian's a good pick okay macho man randy savage all wrestlers are on it.
Chris Benoit. I thought about Benoit.
Yeah. That's a tough one.
That's a tough one. That does not.
You don't want to. You don't want to vote.
Very big steroid. Undeniable.
But you don't want to. You don't want to.
You don't want to. You don't want to.
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You don't want to. You don't want to.
You don't want to. You don't want to vote on that guy.
Undeniable. Undeniable steroid guy.
Yeah. Yeah.
For sure. Ben Johnson, the runner.
Yeah. yeah to be honest did you know that i had no idea about anything of chris benoit until our co-worker mike greer wore a t-shirt that that said that had his name on it yeah i can believe i had no idea who i had no idea of any of that story i bought a shirt for one of my friends one time a chris benoit cross-faced crippler shirt yeah and i thought it was funny and then we both realized he's never going to wear it.
No. Yeah, never.
One of my personal favorites, Ryan Braun, because Aaron Rodgers said he'd bet a year's salary that Ryan Braun was clean. Yeah.
That was awesome. That's a good one.
They owned a restaurant together. Raphael Palmeiro.
Yeah. Just because he testified in front of Congress and he pointed his finger and he said, let me be very clear.
Yep. And then it turns out they did it.
Brady Anderson is another one that wouldn't play on the graphic, but one of my favorites because he hit like eight. I think he hit 210 home runs and 50 in one year.
Yeah. And it was literally like 18, 18, 18, 50, 18.
He played 15 years and a quarter of his home runs came in one year. Yep.
Jules. Jules list I'm not going to say the person I was about to say What were you going to say Because it's speculative It's a recurring guest on the show Very nice guy Very very nice guy I'll text it to you Jerry is on the worst steroids of all time if he's on steroids.
Yeah. Jimmy Garoppolo.
Who? I forgot Jimmy G just got busted for using PEDs. Yeah.
Those were some really bad PEDs. Yeah.
Blake? No. No.
Come on. Brooks? No.
No. He would never do that.
I'm trying to think who else I have on my list. Most of my names are off.
I didn't have many. Oh, yeah.
Who was it? Nah, he didn't do it. He probably didn't do it.
I'm so confused. Carl Lewis, was he? So Carl Lewis.
Carl Everett. Carl Lewis won three gold medals.
I think he won the 100-meter dash three Olympics in a row. And then got adult braces.
That'd be 12 years. And then he got the adult one can win the olympics three years in a row on the 100 meter dash adult braces we didn't both do it probably but he's a freak tom fornelly yes tom yeah he does him does steroids for sure does have you seen his balls like tic-tacs um good list though i feel good about it very good about it Who.
Who are you for again? Hank Lance Armstrong.

Brian Cushing.

Great pick.

Manny Ramirez.

LeBron.

I mean, how it's good list.

Hank is for sure going to tweet out like a video of Brian Cushing,

like bashing his skull tomorrow morning or just like been worn Starbucks

cup.

Is this for chicks?

Yeah.

All right.

Good Mount Rushmore.

Good show, boys.

We'll do an open ended one on chicks? Yeah. All right.
Good Mount Rushmore. Good show, boys.
We'll do an open-ended one on Wednesday.

Yeah.

Get back to the open-ended ones.

Tweet us any open-ended Mount Rushmore you want us to do.

Those are the fun ones.

This was a good one, though.

This was a good one.

Good one to get back on track.

All right.

Good show, boys.

Numbers.

Max, have you ever gotten the lottery ball machine?

I've gotten the numbers.

20. 17.
6. got the numbers.
20.

17. 6.
3.

42.

99.

21.

79.

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