Derek Carr, Open Championship W/ Shane Bacon + Mt Rushmore Of TV Shows/Movies We’ve Never Seen

2h 28m

It’s the slowest day in the sports year and we choose our adventure for the MLB All Star Game (00:00:00-00:10:03). We get mad about an ESPN list (00:10:03-00:18:40). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Jaylen Brown talking about Bronny and Duggs may be in trouble (00:18:40-00:39:31). Mt Rushmore of TV Shows/Movies we’ve never seen (00:39:31-01:12:12). Saints QB Derek Carr joins the show to talk about his career, watching his brother play in the NFL, Antonio Brown, New Orleans, whether he wears Mascara and tons more (01:12:12-01:57:06). Shane Bacon joins us to preview this weekends final Major, the Open Championship at Royal Troon (01:57:06-02:19:10). We then finish with Guys on Chicks (02:19:10-02:26:38).


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Speaker 6 On today's part of my take, we have a twofer for the people.

Speaker 10 We have Derek Carr.

Speaker 9 An interview we thought we'd never do.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But it was awesome.

Speaker 11 He's a great guy.

Speaker 12 We are Derek Carr fans now.

Speaker 14 Great interview with him.

Speaker 15 Got some awesome stories.

Speaker 16 Talked about his career.

Speaker 18 We also have our good friend Shane Bacon on to preview the Open Championship.

Speaker 21 You thought this was going to be the worst week in sports, but we have the Open Championship.

Speaker 11 We get to wake up at, I think, 4.09 on Thursday to watch Maxoma play.

Speaker 9 We're going to do a choose your own adventure of the all-star game.

Speaker 26 We have the Mount Rushmore that will probably piss the most people off because we're going to do the Mount Rushmore of movies or shows that we have not seen.

Speaker 11 This is going to make people very, very angry. I don't know how they're going to react in the voting process if they're going to see

Speaker 11 like really all-time classics that we pick and get mad at us.

Speaker 28 Yeah, and then vote against us and not vote for us.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but it's going to be great.

Speaker 18 And then we're going to do Hot Sea Cool Throne.

Speaker 16 We have Guys on Chicks packed show for you on Wednesday.

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Speaker 35 and then a lot of

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Speaker 35 And then a candle game all on the sun. Oh, no, we're gonna rock it down to Electric I revenue.

Speaker 35 And then we'll take it higher.

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Speaker 43 And I'm going to say it right now: boys, the home run derby is officially dead.

Speaker 25 And here's why.

Speaker 5 We've talked about it in the past.

Speaker 45 The home run derby has lost its luster.

Speaker 26 The juice ball home run derby, the way the format was set.

Speaker 21 The home run derby is dead because all it took was one horrific national anthem to steal the night.

Speaker 11 Yeah, that was a tough way to get it started. Very tough way.

Speaker 48 And that's the story, though, of the home run derby.

Speaker 49 That was how bad.

Speaker 11 I mean, Donald Trump getting his ear shot off maybe had the right idea. He didn't have to listen to that.

Speaker 51 Oh, man.

Speaker 11 That was bad. I didn't tweet that out last night.

Speaker 52 Oh, good. I didn't.

Speaker 11 I thought about it. And then I saw the memes happen, and I was like, okay, now it's a safe space to do it.

Speaker 17 Yeah, it's the Klay Thompson earble.

Speaker 11 It's an ear bleed. It was horrific.

Speaker 52 It was. Who was it?

Speaker 53 It was awful.

Speaker 11 I don't know, but apparently she's been nominated for several Grammy Awards. What?

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 11 It seemed like a prank in real time.

Speaker 55 It really did.

Speaker 56 And it also, it was so bad.

Speaker 1 It was one of those videos.

Speaker 9 If you pulled it up on your phone and started playing it, people would look and be like, Are you watching porn?

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 57 Because there was like some shrieks in there.

Speaker 54 Ingrid Andres.

Speaker 50 Oh, Ingrid, that's tough.

Speaker 11 Yeah, and then the end when she tried to really do something at the end with the scoops, it was awful. The home run derby itself stunk, too.
It was bad.

Speaker 11 I mean, there's countless ways that you can improve the home run derby. We just want to see all the dingers.
Yeah. We want to see the ball hit the bat.
We want to see the ball sail.

Speaker 11 We want to see it land. And then we want to wait for the next pitch.
Yes. Is that so hard to do? It shouldn't be that hard to fix this.
No.

Speaker 43 Shout out the Oscar Hernandez.

Speaker 11 Yeah, the Oscar Hernandez. L.

Speaker 54 Oscar. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Had a great night.

Speaker 18 Yeah, winning the Homer and Derby.

Speaker 11 Pete Alonzo, bad night.

Speaker 58 And that's all he cares about. Yep.

Speaker 4 But yeah, it was.

Speaker 59 I don't know. I wish

Speaker 22 Homer Derby used to mean something, man.

Speaker 17 We sound like old men, but I feel like it's the truth.

Speaker 11 It is the truth. I think our idea that we had last year was one of the best, which is if you test positive for steroids, you can get out of your suspension by winning the Herndron Run Run Run Rerby.

Speaker 11 By winning the Homer and Derby, yeah.

Speaker 18 Breaking Moose.

Speaker 61 Give us a cow, Max.

Speaker 52 Is that Woo?

Speaker 51 Woo.

Speaker 19 So we already taped earlier today, but the national anthem, Ingrid Andrus, released a statement saying, I'm not going to bullshit y'all.

Speaker 65 I was drunk last night.

Speaker 19 I'm checking myself into a facility today to get the help I need.

Speaker 47 That was not me last night. I apologize to M.O.B., all the fans in this country I love so much for that rendition.
I'll let y'all know how rehab is.

Speaker 30 I hear hear it's super fun

Speaker 11 hopefully she gets better also incredible move because now this goes down like if she gets better it goes down as like the funniest coolest national anthem ever this is how i knew to turn my life around yeah because i made america weep yeah yeah so yeah i i hope she's good she says uh see you in rehab here it's fun oh so i don't know if that's if that's accurate or not i don't know who feels

Speaker 11 about rehab yeah um if i screwed up the national anthem this would be a good pr 101 move, though.

Speaker 11 It's always a great move just whenever you screw anything up to say, I'm seeking treatment.

Speaker 28 Right.

Speaker 38 I need to work on myself. I'm seeking treatment.

Speaker 23 But yeah, that was, I mean, at least now we have an explanation for it because that would have been bad for her singing career if that was actually her.

Speaker 11 Yeah. And also in the actual home run derby, Max, was there controversy in your Phillies guy losing the semifinals?

Speaker 29 Yeah, well, are you talking about the foul ball?

Speaker 11 Well, I'm talking about that and also the format.

Speaker 70 I don't know.

Speaker 71 I heard a rumor that they did.

Speaker 72 They did a different derby's out.

Speaker 11 That they did a different format than they were supposed to do. I don't know if that's true or not.

Speaker 73 I didn't know that. I did not know that.
Yeah. And the foul ball didn't really seem that controversial, but I didn't hear that, so I just kind of guessed.

Speaker 31 Oh.

Speaker 73 Well, he had a home run.

Speaker 73 His last swing of the regular round was close to being a home run, but it was pretty clearly foul.

Speaker 11 I think some Philly people thought that it was supposed to be a 60-second swing-off in the semifinals. Ah.
But MLB changed it to just what, three? They screwed Schwarber the other year.

Speaker 11 They did, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 13 So they got it out for Philly.

Speaker 29 Okay.

Speaker 13 That was breaking moves. Back to what we were talking about.

Speaker 42 And then we have the all-star game, which will choose your own adventure because we're going to hit some dingers tonight.

Speaker 3 Paul Skeens was electric.

Speaker 11 He was.

Speaker 17 Shout out to MOB, by the way, for actually doing the right thing and having Paul Skeens start this game.

Speaker 11 Well, Rob Manford said that if they didn't make the right decision, they would have stepped in. So apparently the manager made the call.

Speaker 17 That's Rob Manford trying to get credit for something that he...

Speaker 9 That's That's bullshit.

Speaker 11 I would have done it too, is what Rob Manford said.

Speaker 76 They screwed it on the AL side because the AL's future AL Cy Young, Tariq Skubel, is not starting.

Speaker 16 And he is going to be the AL Cy Young, as that guy sent me the envelope.

Speaker 77 What are you laughing about?

Speaker 78 I said, per you in Detroit.

Speaker 24 Yeah, no, well, not per me.

Speaker 22 Per the guy who gave me the envelope that said, bet him right now.

Speaker 13 He is the odds on favor right now.

Speaker 77 Nice. Yeah.

Speaker 80 So he's having a great year.

Speaker 81 Did the NL win?

Speaker 23 How many years ago is the NL?

Speaker 78 9-1 AL, I think.

Speaker 55 In the last 10?

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 11 The NL did not win, sadly, tonight. Damn it.
It's hard to win on the road.

Speaker 24 It's hard to win on the road.

Speaker 38 Hostile crowd.

Speaker 17 All right, so that's another loss for the NL.

Speaker 49 Brutal. You know what? I'm going to say the NL won.

Speaker 35 That way we can cover both our bases.

Speaker 11 You think they broke the streak this time?

Speaker 37 Yeah, I don't know what the streak is at right now.

Speaker 72 What is it at?

Speaker 78 NL also

Speaker 68 has a losing streak.

Speaker 24 I do think they won one.

Speaker 82 Oh, no,

Speaker 24 they won last year, right?

Speaker 35 And that streak was over last year.

Speaker 57 It was nine games in a row, nine years in a row.

Speaker 11 The Midsummer Classic. Who could forget?

Speaker 38 Yeah, they slapped it.

Speaker 35 Yeah, how could we forget?

Speaker 83 Last year, the NL won.

Speaker 56 So

Speaker 72 the AL is going to win.

Speaker 51 Yeah, yeah. The AL is going to win.

Speaker 14 The L is going to win.

Speaker 26 Max is looking it up right now.

Speaker 3 By the way, we have our intern starting on Wednesday, correct?

Speaker 27 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 60 Tomorrow?

Speaker 29 Today?

Speaker 11 Today. Today.
Very excited to introduce him to you.

Speaker 2 He's going to have to, because

Speaker 16 we obviously, you know, Jake left.

Speaker 42 We need someone who's on their computer who can just be like, and this guy, by the way,

Speaker 37 he's not going to be able to do that, but he's going to at least give us moments where we're like, okay.

Speaker 11 Based on his past, I don't think we should allow him near a computer.

Speaker 10 Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 9 We'll have him tell the story when he gets debuted on Friday.

Speaker 22 We'll introduce him to the audience.

Speaker 84 And he had one story that basically hooked us for life based on content.

Speaker 59 But the yeah, so the NL won last year.

Speaker 26 Who could forget?

Speaker 16 We obviously knew that, but the AL had won nine in a row before that.

Speaker 59 So the streak is over. AL's back on top.

Speaker 11 AL's back on top. A new streak begins right now.

Speaker 85 Oh, maybe a new streak starts with the NL. I'm back on the NL.

Speaker 11 You think the NL it's flipped?

Speaker 52 This has been some really interesting talk on bigger bases.

Speaker 24 PFT, before we get to our Mount Rushmore and our hot seat cool throne, I was

Speaker 87 cruising around the internet trying to find some sports stuff going on.

Speaker 6 This is the deadest week in the sports sports calendar by far.

Speaker 22 And that means that ESPN will do something that, you know, remember when they ranked states, I believe?

Speaker 23 Was it states?

Speaker 11 Did they do states? Because I've got a.

Speaker 11 I've ranked states before.

Speaker 37 I can't remember. They did.

Speaker 1 SVP did something back

Speaker 19 in the day where it was either states or license plates.

Speaker 50 Whatever. Who's now?

Speaker 43 Who's now was one of them.

Speaker 11 They're doing the top 100 athletes.

Speaker 28 That was what I was going to bring up.

Speaker 6 So, top 100 professional athletes since 2000, and they released numbers 51 through 60 today american pharaoh alex ovechkin 54.

Speaker 10 okay how do we feel about that also

Speaker 78 which makes

Speaker 49 hockey that that one's

Speaker 1 derek this is a great hat tip to espn an incredible engagement troll move they ranked derek jeter 53

Speaker 26 and that would get people very upset But then you remember he won the majority of his championships in the 90s.

Speaker 11 In the 90s, yeah.

Speaker 1 So that was a savvy, savvy move by them.

Speaker 11 Takes out the meat of his career.

Speaker 17 Yeah, they should have done like MJ 100.

Speaker 20 That's bullshit.

Speaker 11 That's bullshit that Ovie is so far down. Like Hank said, it's disrespectful to hockey.
It's disrespectful to the entire country of Russia.

Speaker 11 The man is about to surpass Wayne Gretzky for the top goal scorer of all time in the NHL.

Speaker 78 What hockey players would be above him?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but they also ranked, he was above two soccer players.

Speaker 69 Why'd we have soccer in this?

Speaker 24 Luca Modric and Alexia Patelis.

Speaker 60 Okay.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it's garbage. Why would we.

Speaker 1 JJ Watt, 58.

Speaker 16 That's got to make you feel a little better.

Speaker 11 Yeah, JJ Watt, he should be higher, though. I know, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 37 It should make you feel better about Ovechkin because JJ Watt is very, very good.

Speaker 11 These lists are designed to make you mad. Yes.
That's what they exist for. It's like, oh, they have track and feel.

Speaker 11 When Apple did their top 10 albums of all time, I think they had Frank Ocean ahead of Stevie Wonder.

Speaker 21 Yeah. This is a crazy list.

Speaker 86 They've gone every sport.

Speaker 24 There's more soccer and tracking Fishon White's on there.

Speaker 11 Mookie Betts, Hank, 73.

Speaker 55 Great player.

Speaker 14 I don't think there's going to be

Speaker 56 a single.

Speaker 61 Bryce Harper, 79.

Speaker 39 Yeah, these are Chris Paul, 83.

Speaker 3 Yeah, these are just made to make you mad.

Speaker 48 We should do ours.

Speaker 35 Oh, we should do that. I have a prediction.

Speaker 9 We should do our top 100.

Speaker 11 I have a prediction. Yeah.
I think ESPN is going to put Serena number one.

Speaker 27 Oh.

Speaker 11 Just to make people mad.

Speaker 21 Tiger's got to be very high.

Speaker 11 Tiger's going to be up there. But Tiger also started in the 90s.

Speaker 23 That's true, but his.

Speaker 11 The Masters win. Yeah.
Dominant Masters win. But the Tiger slam was in the 2000s.

Speaker 17 Rory was 93.

Speaker 23 Yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 72 I think they'll do Serena.

Speaker 43 They're going to go like Serena 1,

Speaker 87 and then

Speaker 17 the rest of the top 10 is just going to be the U.S.

Speaker 22 women's national team.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 11 American Pharaohs should be top 10.

Speaker 51 Flightline.

Speaker 90 Yeah, Flightline. Flightline should be number 4.

Speaker 17 Connor McDavids, 98.

Speaker 22 And Ed Reed, Charles Woodson, 100.

Speaker 3 Okay, so yeah, this is going to make us mad.

Speaker 49 Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 91 They have now hooked me.

Speaker 1 They've hooked me into it.

Speaker 21 I got to see.

Speaker 22 Do you think they'll do Serena over like Tom Brady?

Speaker 21 Because Tom Brady also has the perfect.

Speaker 1 His career was literally the last 20 years.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it started 2001.

Speaker 28 Right.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it should be Tom Brady, Serena duking it out for number one overall.

Speaker 92 And LeBron as well. LeBron also was.

Speaker 9 So it's...

Speaker 1 It should be Brady, LeBron, Serena, but it will be Serena, LeBron, Brady.

Speaker 11 Maybe Sasha Tendelkar, the cricket player.

Speaker 24 Yeah, that could throw him in there.

Speaker 1 This will be spicy.

Speaker 70 How high does Mahomes go?

Speaker 11 I mean, shout out to ESPN for figuring out a way to fill up July.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 40 Adrian Belchrick.

Speaker 11 This 52. This right now, today,

Speaker 11 this is when we should be talking about the NBA NFL debate. Yep.
This exact day right now, Austin Rivers should have gone on McAvee's show and dropped that bomb on us.

Speaker 55 Yep.

Speaker 11 Got us through two weeks.

Speaker 2 This is a hot dog. This is a sandwich.

Speaker 11 We wasted two weeks during the nba playoffs and nhl playoffs when we could just make a meal out of that we said it in real time too yeah this is not when we're supposed to do this we're supposed to wait but yeah i'm hooked now now the the real question is going to be who is going to be the best male tennis player on the list is it joker federer

Speaker 11 jokovic i think we can agree nadal last yeah nadal for sure last it'll be federer

Speaker 95 yeah which is bullshit because jokovic

Speaker 24 worked him multiple times and has more.

Speaker 78 Can he beat Alcatraz?

Speaker 43 He's 16 years older.

Speaker 74 I know this is just going to happen to me.

Speaker 24 Like everyone it happened with.

Speaker 18 Federer and Djokovic are a lot closer in age, though.

Speaker 11 Are they going to have any drivers on there? Are they going to have any like F1 guys on the list?

Speaker 25 Yeah, for stopping.

Speaker 11 Lewis Hamilton. Hamilton, yeah.
Hamiltremes.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 56 Lewis Hamilton. Sir Lewis Hamilton.
Yeah.

Speaker 77 Sir Lewis Hamilton.

Speaker 72 Are you, Hank, quick check-in?

Speaker 76 Are you okay with Jalen Brown and Derrick White?

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 29 Why?

Speaker 78 Because they're NBA champions.

Speaker 89 There was a little jab going back and forth because Derrick White got on the team.

Speaker 3 Jalen Brown was like, I'm not on the team.

Speaker 65 And he basically was like, this is bullshit.

Speaker 17 But they're also teammates.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Not afraid of you or your resources.

Speaker 78 Jalen Brown said the first thing he did was call Derrick White and tell him he loves him.

Speaker 11 Love that. That's the first thing that he did?

Speaker 94 When he saw the news when he woke up that day?

Speaker 55 When he saw the news.

Speaker 11 Didn't take a piss?

Speaker 45 When he saw the news.

Speaker 63 Also,

Speaker 9 Derrick White is the perfect fit, and we like Derek White.

Speaker 18 He's the perfect fit

Speaker 19 on this team that he's going to go and just be a really good teammate.

Speaker 44 And, like, you're the 12th guy now.

Speaker 13 Not that he won't play, but you want that, right?

Speaker 29 Right.

Speaker 37 Ben Shakespeare.

Speaker 9 Like, if you added Kyrie or Jalen Brown, it might be a little bit different.

Speaker 44 Correct. He might not want to be the 12th guy.

Speaker 11 It'll be interesting to see in the top 10 how many of those are Nike athletes on the ESPN list. Very interesting.
And start connecting those dots there. That's very interesting.

Speaker 11 And it can't just be because Nike has the best athletes on the roster. It's got to be because Nike's making the call.

Speaker 93 Yeah.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 79 Okay, should we do Hot C cool throw and then get to Armount Rushmore?

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 12 Again, the worst day in sports calendar.

Speaker 11 I'd agree with that. And the all-star game, it is sad because I feel like when we were kids, maybe kids liked the all-star game.
Maybe it's just old people never liked the all-star game.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 82 Although, no, so I think the all-star game got eroded.

Speaker 25 The all-star game still, the MOB all-star game still is the best all-star game by far because you can't half-ass throwing 99 miles an hour.

Speaker 21 So it's still the best.

Speaker 21 I did, I noticed that it was the dumbest rule in sports.

Speaker 17 I did like when it decided home field advantage.

Speaker 37 And the all-star game lost a little bit of its luster when interleague play happened.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 25 And you, because that was like the cool part of the all-star game is like, you'll never get to see Paul Skeens versus Aaron Judge.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 14 They probably are going to play next week.

Speaker 11 I think the all-star game game fell off for me when Bud Selig ruled at a tie. That, too.

Speaker 11 That one year when he just stood up in the stands and he waved his arms and said, no, we're done playing right now. That was a good time.
And growing up, George W.

Speaker 11 Bush, our former president, his dream job when he was a kid and even as an adult was to be commissioner of Major League Baseball.

Speaker 11 If George W. Bush had become commissioner of Major League Baseball, the world would be so much better.
Baseball would be so much better. Say what you want about the man.

Speaker 11 The fucking All-Star game's not ending in a tie with George W. Bush.

Speaker 65 What What if that meant Bud Selig was president, though?

Speaker 11 Okay, it could have been worse.

Speaker 29 It could have been worse. Way worse.
Yeah.

Speaker 58 Way worse.

Speaker 38 No one gets a bigger pass than Bud Selig.

Speaker 11 Bud Selig's terrible.

Speaker 17 I know, and you feel like

Speaker 6 he just...

Speaker 17 Everyone just kind of forgets Bud Selig sucked.

Speaker 11 He's also... The name Bud does a lot of favors for you.
Oh, yeah. If your name's Bud, people like you in general.
Yeah. He was the least.
Right there in the name. He was the least Bud of all time.

Speaker 11 Yeah. If you look at Bud Selig, that's not his name.
He's enemy.

Speaker 51 Yeah.

Speaker 18 He's like a Ernie Selig.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Ernie would have been a good name for Bud. Yeah.

Speaker 19 Ernie Selig would have worked.

Speaker 11 And then I remember he released something. They were doing like a profile on Bud Selig, and he was like, yeah, I get my hair cut once a week, every Thursday at the same time.
Nice try, bud.

Speaker 11 That was not your hair, buddy.

Speaker 24 No, no.

Speaker 96 You couldn't pull a fast one on that.

Speaker 10 Okay, let's do hot seat cool throwing.

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Speaker 60 Hank.

Speaker 78 My hot seat's Jalen Brown.

Speaker 29 Oh, why?

Speaker 24 Oh, that's why you didn't want to

Speaker 55 skirt it.

Speaker 78 I thought that's what you were bringing up, but I don't know. He's on the hot seat.
He's really just spitting facts, but you know. Yeah.
It's headlines that he probably doesn't want to be involved in.

Speaker 78 He was at the Celtics Summer League game last night. It was Celtics Lakers, so they were playing Brownie Jr.

Speaker 11 Brownie Jr. is the Lakers, too.

Speaker 55 Well, yeah, I guess people call LeBron Brownie.

Speaker 29 No. No.

Speaker 42 Brownie is

Speaker 38 his son's name.

Speaker 22 Given name. It's in the box score.

Speaker 73 That'd be wild if Bronny James.

Speaker 11 Brownie had a kid who was also.

Speaker 78 Is that true?

Speaker 17 We talked about that a couple weeks ago, how it pisses me off that his in the box score.

Speaker 25 You can look it up and it says B.

Speaker 42 James.

Speaker 9 It's like his name is LeBron James.

Speaker 78 All right, so Bronny Sr., he was watching Bronny Sr.

Speaker 78 and they showed him on the sidelines talking to his girlfriend, and you could read his lips. And he said,

Speaker 78 I don't think Bronny's a pro. Yeah.
And then his girlfriend said, yeah, he'll play on the G-League, though. And he said, I don't think so.
Because of his name, he's going to be playing for the Lakers.

Speaker 77 This is all

Speaker 55 lips being red.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 78 The G-League, you could definitely say he says, I don't think Brownie's a pro. And then the girlfriend definitely says, like, you can see her say G-League.

Speaker 78 I couldn't really tell what he said after that.

Speaker 11 I think the way that he said, I don't think Bronny's a pro isn't that bad for him.

Speaker 71 It's also not wrong.

Speaker 52 Yeah, it's not wrong. No.

Speaker 11 And also, it's not like he was clowning him. He was like, I don't think this guy's a pro.
Yeah. He's not a pro.
Which is probably an accurate say, unless we're talking about Call of Duty.

Speaker 11 In which case, shout out to Bronny. Won the Call of Duty tournament.

Speaker 13 That was my cool throne.

Speaker 11 Yeah, $10,000 cash.

Speaker 26 Yeah, he won the Call of Duty Summer League tournament, which that wasn't the craziest part.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 96 one, if you're Bronny, you can't win that.

Speaker 21 Like, that's just... You're just going to get made fun of.

Speaker 3 The fact that you're very good at video games and you're not good at basketball.

Speaker 4 Two,

Speaker 24 Grant Williams is still playing in Summer League?

Speaker 93 No.

Speaker 4 He beat out Bronnie

Speaker 24 for the Summer League title in Call of Duty.

Speaker 78 He's probably just there, though.

Speaker 56 You think so?

Speaker 78 He's not playing Summer League, only two years.

Speaker 43 That's what I thought, too, but I saw his name and I was like, why is Grant Williams there?

Speaker 78 There's got to be a different Grant Williams. All right, I'm going to learn.
There's a lot of Williams.

Speaker 64 I learned.

Speaker 98 I'm almost positive. It's Grant Williams.

Speaker 26 That's true. We have learned there's a lot of Williams.

Speaker 4 That would be crazy if if it was a point.

Speaker 36 It's impossible.

Speaker 24 All right. I don't see him on the roster.

Speaker 17 He's a roster. So maybe he's just there.

Speaker 57 Yeah. He's just hanging out.

Speaker 11 So Jalen Brown. He does.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, I guess he's just hanging out.

Speaker 11 Jalen Brown tweeted out: it's a flex to have your son alongside you in the NBA. It reflects greatness and longevity.
Bronnie has all the tools around him to be successful.

Speaker 11 I look forward to watching his growth.

Speaker 11 So kind of walking it back a little bit there.

Speaker 43 Okay, so that's what his statement is right now.

Speaker 78 But his statement is a flex. He's basically just being like, yeah, LeBron.

Speaker 55 Yeah, that's not pro.

Speaker 69 It's all LeBron's ego.

Speaker 35 That's what this whole thing is.

Speaker 17 I don't want to get into the.

Speaker 43 You know what?

Speaker 26 It's non-sports week.

Speaker 22 But some people could argue that LeBron, when he realized that he wasn't going to win six titles and match MJ, he's like, what else can I try to get that they'll say in my GOAT conversation?

Speaker 42 And having Bronny playing with Bronny will be there.

Speaker 11 You know, it means nothing. MJ's son never played it, never played in the league, right?

Speaker 58 That's facts.

Speaker 1 But that's, it means nothing, but that's exactly what's going on.

Speaker 11 What was Angel Reese's reaction? Because she was sitting next to Jalen Brown's girlfriend.

Speaker 78 Her mouth is kind of blocked, but she kind of says, like, he's not. And, like, you can see, play the clip.

Speaker 78 You can see her say something, like, kind of, you know, be like, yeah, no, he's not.

Speaker 11 I don't think Bronny's a pro.

Speaker 78 Yeah, see, she shakes her head.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 72 An attractive lady.

Speaker 11 Angel Reese is deep in her phone. She's a big phone girl.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 24 I have to go back to this for a second, but Grant Williams is just playing Call of Duty Summer League.

Speaker 49 I got to see what he's doing. What is going on?

Speaker 11 They probably asked Grant Williams, hey, we need another player in this tournament. Can you come out and do it in conjunction with the Summer League?

Speaker 64 I guess.

Speaker 78 Well, he's on, like we said, he's the VP of the Players Association.

Speaker 1 It's just very confusing.

Speaker 78 No, Jalen Brown's the VP of the Players.

Speaker 42 It's very confusing that he was in this tournament, but okay.

Speaker 20 And Bronny did earn $10,000 for winning the tourney.

Speaker 11 Yeah, so does that count against the cat? I don't know. I don't know either.
So the Call of Duty thing, that was only for Summer League players, right?

Speaker 11 It's not like Bronny is a world-class Call of Duty player.

Speaker 57 Apparently not, because Grant Williams is right there.

Speaker 24 He's not playing in the Summer League.

Speaker 20 Yeah, you can't win this.

Speaker 24 You cannot win this if you're Bronny.

Speaker 56 Why? He's cracked. He's young.

Speaker 21 Dude, he's in phase. The jokes aren't.

Speaker 55 Phase up.

Speaker 35 He's been so bad.

Speaker 11 Now, Hank, did he get into phase on his own merits or did he get in because his dad's LeBron J.

Speaker 78 Oh, he's like a sniper trick shotter.

Speaker 40 His godfather's Nick Mercks.

Speaker 29 Yeah, so he's really good.

Speaker 11 He got drafted.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and by the way, I did double check.

Speaker 22 If you go on ESPN, it is B.James.

Speaker 70 And he was one for five, 0 for 3 from 3 points. B.

Speaker 11 Hamas. B.

Speaker 70 Hamas. Yes.
B.

Speaker 60 Hamas.

Speaker 77 Okay.

Speaker 24 So, Jalen Brown.

Speaker 29 I have no problem with Jalen Brown saying this.

Speaker 18 This is why I ultimately, this whole entire thing, I feel awful for Bronny.

Speaker 55 I really do.

Speaker 1 Because he knows guys are saying this and he knows that like this is going to be said in the locker room and it's going to be said when he's going up against another team.

Speaker 23 Everyone's going to look at him and be like, you're only here because of your dad, which I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be there because of his dad because LeBron James has done a ton for the NBA and he's been the best player for the last 20 years.

Speaker 42 But it has to suck deep down to be like, everyone's talking about me in this way.

Speaker 11 That does suck. That part sucks, but I don't feel bad for him because he is in the NBA.
I know. He got an NBA contract.
He gets to play in NBA games. He's a Los Angeles Laker.

Speaker 11 If he didn't want all the stuff that goes along with it, all you have to do is say, you know what, Dad, let's be realistic. I'm not an NBA player.

Speaker 42 I don't know why he didn't go back to college.

Speaker 5 Yeah. It would have been just as fun.

Speaker 86 It would have been great.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 78 Cool thrown is Victor Holland.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 78 You guys ready to get you guys ready to get deep?

Speaker 11 Let's get deep. Get deep in me.
All right.

Speaker 78 So this is from Dylan Deathyer, who is a

Speaker 78 writer for Golf Magazine.

Speaker 15 Is that another Trump joke?

Speaker 78 D-E-T-H-I-E-R.

Speaker 51 Okay.

Speaker 78 Dathyer. Sure.

Speaker 78 Dathire.

Speaker 78 He said, what's on Victor Hovin's mind? A lot about the golf swing. Plus this.

Speaker 78 And this is a quote from Victor Hovlin. What do you think happens after we die? We don't know.
The establishment will say your neurons will stop firing, your body will rot.

Speaker 1 Okay. The establishment?

Speaker 78 That's one explanation. But if you look at our ancestors, there's a huge culture that goes into preparing for the afterlife.
Were they just idiots or were they onto something?

Speaker 11 Did this guy just discover religion?

Speaker 78 I'm just curious to find out. We've gotten sold that we have all the answers, but there's just so much we don't know.
I find those questions super motivating, and I just want to figure it out.

Speaker 29 Okay, yeah.

Speaker 78 I think his mind is, I don't know how focused he is on the open this week.

Speaker 40 He's just asking questions.

Speaker 11 What do you think happens after we die, Hank?

Speaker 78 Reincarnated into a different animal. What animal? So, like, it's different for every person, but an animal where you can't speak, so you can't share your knowledge.

Speaker 11 Oh, so you just have to exist with all your knowledge that you have?

Speaker 11 You would be a moth because you'd just fly directly at that lighthouse.

Speaker 100 Yeah.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 56 Or whatever. So Victor Havlin's just sitting around with this in his brain right now.

Speaker 78 They're like, yeah, what's going on? How's you know, how are you getting prepared for the U.S. Open, Victor? And he was just like, what happens after we die?

Speaker 16 I think what happens after you die is you get eaten by worms.

Speaker 15 And we all just become worms.

Speaker 11 So this guy, this is not a championship mentality that he's in. I don't think so.
When you're entering a major championship week, you don't or maybe it is. Questioning.

Speaker 78 Maybe he's so unfocused on golf, he's just going to play well.

Speaker 11 How can you focus on golf?

Speaker 78 That's the thing.

Speaker 78 He's just,

Speaker 78 I don't know. I don't think he's going to play well.

Speaker 18 Not to get on the Vitcher Hovin thing,

Speaker 46 like going down this weird questions, but it is kind of weird that we bury people.

Speaker 101 Well, what are we going to do with them?

Speaker 21 I don't know.

Speaker 20 But just like thinking about it,

Speaker 21 that is kind of weird.

Speaker 11 Do you think in like 50 million years people are going to be digging like on, you know, on Long Island, there's a giant cemetery. Yeah.
The giant cemetery that we have there. Yeah.

Speaker 11 In 50 million years, are they going to be digging there and they're going to find that huge cemetery and just make oil out of all of us?

Speaker 21 I don't know, but it's just,

Speaker 1 I'm just, this is one of those things you shouldn't think about things too much.

Speaker 3 Just thinking about like you put someone in a box and you put them in the ground and that's it.

Speaker 69 That's kind of weird. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Or you could get cremation.

Speaker 18 You could get cremated.

Speaker 11 Cremation is better.

Speaker 55 It feels a little less weird.

Speaker 78 I like cremation.

Speaker 28 it does feel

Speaker 29 at least be like you know put put a little me here put a little me there put a little me on the golf course put a little me more on the golf course you know what just pour the whole thing on the golf course ocean chop me up do a line of course yeah oh hank oh if hank dies before us we got to get him cremated and we'll fucking sit his ass in a chair at work every day

Speaker 11 fuck you hank you're coming to work buddy i will haunt you yeah you will i won't be coming to work i fully i'll be retired i fully believe that if hank had the powers as a ghost to choose, if you want to be a friendly ghost or a haunting ghost,

Speaker 11 Hank would show up and just ruin everything.

Speaker 17 Put Hank back in like the 10th grade math class.

Speaker 84 Yeah.

Speaker 76 Like, here you go, buddy.

Speaker 48 Take a seat.

Speaker 11 I want my body to be jettisoned into outer space after I die because it's a vacuum, right? So nothing eats away at you. So that way my body is just floating around space forever.
I like that.

Speaker 11 Until like a civilization discovers me and brings me back to life, puts me in a zoo.

Speaker 27 I like that. Yeah.

Speaker 65 I like that.

Speaker 78 Thanks, Victor.

Speaker 35 Yeah, thanks, Victor.

Speaker 90 us going.

Speaker 11 Got us talking. Who is the establishment in this case?

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 11 The establishment tells you

Speaker 11 neurons stop firing.

Speaker 63 Earth? God?

Speaker 55 NWO.

Speaker 76 NWO.

Speaker 11 Yeah, the WEF.

Speaker 38 That is, yeah, the establishment is not the right word there.

Speaker 1 The establishment says that when you die, you die.

Speaker 78 The establishment will say your neurons will stop firing, your body will rot.

Speaker 11 I think in this case, the establishment means people who are smarter than doctors.

Speaker 9 Or could the establishment be your own body?

Speaker 11 His own brain, maybe. So

Speaker 9 brain stops the neurons stop firing.

Speaker 11 So he's at war against himself? Yeah.

Speaker 30 Okay, Victor, great thought starter. Yeah.

Speaker 52 Way to go, dude.

Speaker 11 What happens after we die?

Speaker 52 I'm going to bet him.

Speaker 29 Yeah, I'm going to have to bet him.

Speaker 92 I'm going to do a deathbat.

Speaker 29 Yeah, I'm betting him.

Speaker 63 I have to

Speaker 78 a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 11 He gets the clear jug, and he's just all morose and sad because he's like, yeah, but you know what? Like, one day he's going to die. And then what?

Speaker 55 Maybe he becomes a golf ball.

Speaker 56 That would suck. Yeah.

Speaker 24 Just get smashed around.

Speaker 11 Maybe one of those old ghosts that hangs out at the golf course after they win a tournament there. That we see in the movies all the time.

Speaker 29 Okay.

Speaker 11 PFT, your hot seat cool throne? My hot seat was going to be Bronny, but I feel like we've reached the depths of the Bronny conversation.

Speaker 11 So my Cool Throne.

Speaker 94 Caitlin Clark?

Speaker 52 Hot seat.

Speaker 102 Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 29 Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 11 Caitlin Clark might get a free trip to Paris. I don't know.
We'll see.

Speaker 11 Cool throne, Stephen A. Smith.
Yes. Because he won the divorce.
Officially, Stephen A. Smith has won the Skip Bayless, Stephen A.
Smith divorce. It took a few years to get there.

Speaker 11 Skip seemed like he was happy with his new flame. Things were going well with him and Shannon.
Then Shannon said, you know what? I can do better.

Speaker 11 He goes off, does his own podcast, gets 5 trillion views on it, works for ESPN, seems to be having a good time.

Speaker 11 Then they tried to replace Shannon with like five different people on Undisputed, and it just

Speaker 11 wasn't hitting the same for Skip. So Skip is out at Fox Sports.
I believe at the end of the summer, what is he going to do? I offered the intern spot on part of my take to Skip Bayless. Love that.

Speaker 11 I think that if Skip wants to reach the next generation, this is a good place to do it. Have him on that couch over there.
We need a Cowboys fan all the time.

Speaker 11 I mean, there's always room in this world for Skip Bayless taking off a Cowboys jersey and throwing it into a trash compactor and walking out of the room. Those videos are always going to hit.

Speaker 18 This is kind of a win for the world.

Speaker 11 In what way?

Speaker 1 Like, Skip. I've always thought Skip is the...
He sucks. Like, Stephen A.

Speaker 17 Smith is playing a character.

Speaker 66 I like Stephen A.

Speaker 47 Smith.

Speaker 13 I know that he can be provocateur, but he's doing somewhat of an act.

Speaker 79 Skip is kind of just an asshole.

Speaker 11 But I kind of like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 70 I wouldn't want to kick off Shannon.

Speaker 72 I wouldn't want to hang out with him or

Speaker 2 I would be bummed if we didn't get any more Stephen A.

Speaker 17 Smith. I'd be bummed if we didn't get any more Shannon.

Speaker 6 There's like a like...

Speaker 21 Coward is weird, but like he still is kind of funny.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Where he'll say stuff and you're like, oh, that's funny.

Speaker 1 Skip doesn't really add anything, but besides being an asshole and running like the same three plays.

Speaker 37 Yeah, the he just feels different than the other guys in that group.

Speaker 11 But I do love something about Skip Bayless. I mean, I don't want to have a conversation with him.
I don't want to hang out with him.

Speaker 78 I don't want to work with him.

Speaker 11 But there's, I feel like the sports ecosystem needs a Skip Bayless. Somebody that's so like dead set.
Every single moment of Skip Bayless's life is focused on how can I make this about LeBron James.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Or the Cowboys.
Or the Cowboys. I mean, he was heartbroken that Bronny wasn't playing well because I think he wanted Bronny to be better than his dad.
Yeah.

Speaker 13 He'll come on the show now, I'm sure.

Speaker 22 He'll have to, like, I'm sure we'll have Skip Bayless on in like the fall or the spring. Him being like, you know, I have this new project.

Speaker 11 I think we should hire.

Speaker 11 I think we should hire Skip Bayless.

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Imagine him just hanging out in the office all the time.

Speaker 18 Ernestine, dual package, need Ernestine.

Speaker 11 Got to have Ernestine. Got to have Ernestine.

Speaker 76 Can't sleep in the same bed, though.

Speaker 49 Yeah. Skip.
On the weekdays.

Speaker 1 Oh, does that mean they're going to...

Speaker 74 Are they going to start sleeping in the same bed every night?

Speaker 11 They might start fucking. Oh, my God.

Speaker 58 In which case, you're going to be.

Speaker 11 This sucks for Ernestine.

Speaker 24 I feel bad for Ernestine.

Speaker 11 What if Skip and Ernestine start doing it? And then all of a sudden, like, Skip Bayless changes his entire tune on life. He's like, I found the love of a woman.
Yeah. Getting late is awesome.

Speaker 11 LeBron, you're actually a great player. Yeah, you're a cool dude.

Speaker 52 My bad.

Speaker 11 Tim Tebow, I tried the virginity thing.

Speaker 11 Having sex is way better.

Speaker 78 I no longer love you. Yeah.

Speaker 22 So Skip's out.

Speaker 11 Sad day. Crazy.
Sad day for sports.

Speaker 54 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 5 My hot seat

Speaker 6 is Florida State.

Speaker 17 Oh, they're doing top 10 quarterbacks.

Speaker 91 Do you map max?

Speaker 17 Yeah, top 10 quarterbacks.

Speaker 43 And Jalen Hurts is not

Speaker 27 top 10.

Speaker 73 No, it's a Jalen Hurts revenge tour this year. It's going to be great.

Speaker 11 I don't see a Dak on that list. Oh, there he is.
He's at 10. He's at 10.
He's behind Jared Goff.

Speaker 43 Florida State has been announced. So the ACC is still up in the air.

Speaker 16 Weird shit. Everyone thinks they might leave.

Speaker 42 The Big Ten in the SEC came out and said they are not

Speaker 18 interested in taking Florida State.

Speaker 44 They basically said it makes no financial sense to league, and they have not been a good partner.

Speaker 76 What is that? They've not been a good partner.

Speaker 15 I think they've just been upset or just, you know, riled stuff up.

Speaker 17 They've been a disruptive partner was the quote.

Speaker 11 So reading between the lines, it seems like Florida State wants to be treated like they're now the star of the Big Ten.

Speaker 35 Yeah, but also

Speaker 2 this means nothing because this is essentially, they're saying, so Big Ten, SEC, unlikely to add Florida State if it leaves ACC and ACC survives.

Speaker 20 Those two things aren't going to happen at the same time.

Speaker 42 Right. This is like when the Big Ten was like, we're not going to take Washington and Oregon if the Pac-12 survives.

Speaker 22 When Washington and Oregon are gone after

Speaker 56 USC and UCLA are gone, the Pac-12 is not surviving.

Speaker 6 If Clemson and Florida State leave the ACC, they're not going to survive.

Speaker 42 So the Big Ten and SEC basically are saying we don't want them unless unless the ACC is gone, which if they leave, they'll be gone, in which case we want them.

Speaker 11 It also might seem like Florida State is, they're on the Titanic. Yes.
The ACC, which is sinking, they get on a lifeboat and they're like, why is there no open bar?

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 11 It's like the Big Ten feels like a great fit. Really, anything.

Speaker 11 Florida State should be in the SEC. Just geographically, it would make a lot of sense.
Yeah, the discussion is

Speaker 11 the corner part, though, is funny. I understand why Florida State would not want to be in the SEC with the recruiting in that area.
It's better if you're in the Big Ten for that.

Speaker 11 But yeah, they're going to get out at some point. Yeah.

Speaker 3 We're still going. We're going to get two super conferences.

Speaker 13 And then my cool throne is the haters and the doubters, of which there are many because I came back with Doug's last night or Monday night.

Speaker 25 We're going to stream again tonight, Wednesday night, 7.30 Central.

Speaker 70 I'm terrible at this game.

Speaker 94 Yeah.

Speaker 11 It's going to take some time.

Speaker 10 What the fuck, Hank?

Speaker 82 You were before we started taping, you're like, it's fine.

Speaker 3 You'll be fine.

Speaker 55 Well, from.

Speaker 72 You were definitely.

Speaker 78 Take your headphones off. Take your headphones off.
Take your headphones off.

Speaker 24 I am not listening.

Speaker 78 It's better for you to be really bad to start.

Speaker 1 But I don't want to be as bad to start.

Speaker 49 I understand that.

Speaker 78 I understand that. I'm just saying

Speaker 97 from a holistic point of view.

Speaker 49 That standard.

Speaker 24 It's just going to kill me.

Speaker 78 It's like, it's training camp. It's like, you know, as a coach, I'm not a coach, but like, looking at it

Speaker 78 from the outside, it's like, it's better to have you know

Speaker 20 but what if i never get good

Speaker 78 like belichuk like you like even no matter how good you are you want to break down the the bad things like it's almost good to have things to break down and improve on you don't learn from you learn more from mistakes than you do from and big hat has could can learn you know textbooks from all the mistakes memes is my co-offensive uh he's my he's he's my Ernie Adams wasn't a great night for my first night with Ernie Adams.

Speaker 11 How's that working?

Speaker 83 Memes?

Speaker 102 I thought last night went well.

Speaker 29 I went one in the winter. It went war.

Speaker 64 Oh, yeah, it went well.

Speaker 51 It went well.

Speaker 11 Why can't you just blame your defense?

Speaker 24 I did. Okay, good.

Speaker 3 I also blamed my kids.

Speaker 61 I blamed Xbox, the PlayStation.

Speaker 78 You said that Coach Doug's a one-kid guy.

Speaker 89 Yeah, I said he's a one-kid guy.

Speaker 17 We're going to have to have a talk with kids two and three and be like, hey, you might have to leave for a while. Yeah.
Because I got a coach.

Speaker 11 Minimize distractions. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's great. The game is great.

Speaker 17 It's so much fun to be back.

Speaker 75 But

Speaker 16 I also feel really bad for Washington State because they're like we believe in you and they're they don't realize dougs is he'll he'll be out as soon as he gets a better offer that's how dougs works so if i win some games i'm gone

Speaker 11 either way the haters and doubters of which there are many get a lot is this a lost season no have you thought about expanding the playbook yes

Speaker 73 but that's easier said than done what are you gonna say max i just wanted the listeners to know that like you you're this is real football coach i'm a real football coach right now I am trying.

Speaker 101 It's consumed all of your brain.

Speaker 73 I, how many people was that the first thing that you said to today? It's like, Doug Stinks.

Speaker 9 Oh, every single person I saw. Like, it's, it's completely consumed.
It's all I've got on my mind.

Speaker 55 It's a football coach. You're a real football coach.

Speaker 57 It's back into.

Speaker 17 I forgot what it's like to be doing this where you're playing video games for a lot of people, and it's just, it...

Speaker 16 It eats away at me. I didn't sleep last night.

Speaker 66 I was like, god damn it, two and three is so much better than one and four.

Speaker 79 If he just didn't, we'ren't an idiot in that Stanford game.

Speaker 11 Have you guys seen the screenshots screenshots that are going around of players, like people that maybe it's when you're a player in the game and you get like text messages from your teammates?

Speaker 17 Yeah, I think a lot of them are fake. Are they fake? I think so.

Speaker 11 Someone's asking you if you want to come out.

Speaker 17 Memes is

Speaker 42 my recruiting coordinator as well because I need him to just, we don't have time right now.

Speaker 22 So he'll let you know if that happens. Okay.

Speaker 65 If he gets hit up.

Speaker 29 Okay.

Speaker 40 Should we do the Mount Rushmore?

Speaker 11 Let's do it. This is going to be a good one.

Speaker 79 This is going to

Speaker 11 piss a lot of people off.

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Speaker 75 Okay.

Speaker 14 Mount Rushmore

Speaker 1 of movies and TV shows we've never seen. Now, this this is going to be on our system.

Speaker 61 I think we all trust each other.

Speaker 24 We also all know a lot of

Speaker 5 where our blind spots are.

Speaker 11 Well, also, these are deeply embarrassing things at times, to admit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Very. No, I've had this theory for a while where

Speaker 43 one of my picks might be out there, but I think that there's everyone has one or two movies or shows that they just missed.

Speaker 2 And when you say it out loud, people are like, what?

Speaker 1 How is that possible?

Speaker 78 And you always hear them talked about.

Speaker 78 But you're like, you don't want to, because then you're just distracting the conversation about the movie or show to everyone be like, wait, you haven't seen that?

Speaker 57 I have one on my list that I actually think that I've like just said, yes, I've seen and I have not seen.

Speaker 16 And I know, like, because I'm so embarrassed about it.

Speaker 22 And it like eats me up inside because it's something I would love.

Speaker 95 But yeah, this is going to be Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 9 People are going to be very upset about.

Speaker 64 By the way. But also.

Speaker 78 Everyone that's upset also has some that they, like, it's like,

Speaker 78 everyone has these. Yeah.
And guess what?

Speaker 1 I would love for this list to be bigger because there's nothing better than being like, I haven't seen this classic movie or TV show, and now I get to go watch it.

Speaker 21 Yeah,

Speaker 11 during COVID, I got to watch all of Game of Thrones for the first time, and it was incredible. Yeah, I was so happy about it.
And people were jealous that I got to do it. Right.

Speaker 11 I wonder, there might be one person that doesn't have anything they missed: Jeff Lowe.

Speaker 11 I don't think Jeff Lowe's missed anything.

Speaker 55 He's a freak.

Speaker 11 He sees everything.

Speaker 80 He's a freak.

Speaker 20 By the way, did you guys?

Speaker 76 I don't think anyone responded to the AWL hit me up who said that we could literally do cat in the hat in the punishments, that one of the punishments could be getting a cat.

Speaker 60 I'm down. Okay.

Speaker 98 So you do like five or six.

Speaker 67 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Max.

Speaker 43 So you'll have to get one of those skinless weird cats.

Speaker 35 Yeah. No, thanks.

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 55 I don't think.

Speaker 78 No, there's hypoallergenic cats. Yeah, I went through this process last time.

Speaker 11 I think Blake would make short work of that cat.

Speaker 33 So you're out. But the listeners.

Speaker 101 Do we want to murder a cat?

Speaker 73 There's no content.

Speaker 71 True.

Speaker 44 Good point.

Speaker 78 Just for the record, I was down.

Speaker 17 I was down too.

Speaker 78 I'm not going to, but I have given it a little more thought.

Speaker 11 I'm down, but since Max.

Speaker 78 But I just think I'm going to wish I would have had as a single guy.

Speaker 20 Yeah, no, it would definitely be a weird mood.

Speaker 13 That's why you got to make it not weird and get three caps.

Speaker 83 That's how you make it not weird. All right.

Speaker 14 Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 24 So what's the order?

Speaker 13 I'm going first? Yep.

Speaker 11 Big Cat, Hank, Max, me. Okay.

Speaker 85 I 1-1.

Speaker 86 I think this is going to hurt PFT.

Speaker 21 uh, it's an easy one-one.

Speaker 61 I've never seen any of the Star Wars.

Speaker 52 Yep, me too.

Speaker 58 Not a single one.

Speaker 11 I didn't even put that down on my list because I knew you were gonna take it.

Speaker 76 And I know, obviously, Darth Vader. I know, like, the story.

Speaker 41 Never seen it.

Speaker 78 Who's Darth Vader's son?

Speaker 13 Luke. Luke.
Luke, I am your father.

Speaker 17 Yeah, like, that's the shit that you know, but you don't.

Speaker 85 Nothing else.

Speaker 59 I,

Speaker 21 yeah, I just never, I don't like sci-fi.

Speaker 22 And that was,

Speaker 13 I just never watched it.

Speaker 78 Who's Darth Vader?

Speaker 28 The originals.

Speaker 78 A real name.

Speaker 93 Anakin.

Speaker 55 Luke Haringo. There you go.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 31 That was close.

Speaker 6 Wait, Anakin Skywalker?

Speaker 11 Anakin is Darth Vader.

Speaker 17 Oh, this is going to get Clem and Robbie so mad this entire Mount Rushman.

Speaker 70 And then I love this.

Speaker 11 And then Yoda is the grandfather.

Speaker 55 Groku?

Speaker 11 No, Groku is Yoda's son.

Speaker 64 Nope.

Speaker 57 What's R2-D2 and C3PO?

Speaker 19 They're just computers?

Speaker 78 They're in all the movies.

Speaker 5 And then Chewbacca is...

Speaker 78 R2-D2 might be the sneaky main character.

Speaker 1 So Luke and Princess Leia is his brother or sister.

Speaker 78 Luke and Princess Leia are twins.

Speaker 10 And they fuck?

Speaker 78 And they make out.

Speaker 29 Oh!

Speaker 11 And then Han Solo is... What's he? What does he do? He's just a race.

Speaker 98 He's a party.

Speaker 78 Him and Chewbacca are boys.

Speaker 11 Chewbacca is his pet.

Speaker 78 Chewbacca is his partner.

Speaker 64 Pet.

Speaker 70 Partner. Does he have a leash for him?

Speaker 103 No.

Speaker 11 Who made C3PO?

Speaker 64 Anakin.

Speaker 11 What's the guy? He's a robot inventor?

Speaker 35 Yeah.

Speaker 2 What's the guy you dress up as in the diseases?

Speaker 78 Who's that? Episode one.

Speaker 78 He is a Sith Lord that gets killed by Anakin after Darth Maul kills.

Speaker 78 Oh, no. He gets killed by Obi-Wan, Kenobi.

Speaker 69 Who's that?

Speaker 78 That's Anakin's master.

Speaker 29 Or what do you call it?

Speaker 78 Anakin was his master.

Speaker 33 Mentor?

Speaker 78 Anakin was Obi-Wan's apprentice.

Speaker 11 And the Ewoks are all just baby Yodas that hang out on a planet, too.

Speaker 78 They're like little baby bears.

Speaker 43 Anakin is, how is Anakin related to Luke?

Speaker 60 Father.

Speaker 91 Anakin is Luke's father, but Luke came first.

Speaker 78 No,

Speaker 78 but in Star Wars,

Speaker 78 it started 4-5-6, which is about Luke. Darth Vader's the bad.

Speaker 24 Did they do that on purpose?

Speaker 78 And then 20 years later, they did 1-2-3, which is Anakin's beginning leading up to him becoming Darth Vader. And then they did 8, 9, 10, which are fucking horrible and ruined the entire time.

Speaker 1 Anakin is Darth Vader. Yep.

Speaker 18 And he is Luke's father.

Speaker 10 Correct.

Speaker 12 But the first.

Speaker 1 Obi-Kwan Kenobi is Luke's.

Speaker 101 Is this Rushboard just going to be explaining every single movie or something?

Speaker 55 No, that I do here.

Speaker 98 No, just this one.

Speaker 90 Just this one.

Speaker 78 Obi-Wan Kenobi was. Luke was Anakin's master, and then he was in the sequel trilogy.
He also was Luke's master.

Speaker 11 And what's Jar Jar?

Speaker 78 But then Anakin kills. Darth Vader kills Obi-Wan.

Speaker 11 Who kills Jar Jar?

Speaker 94 I don't know. I think Jar Jar survived.

Speaker 11 So Jar Jar wins.

Speaker 85 What are the things that...

Speaker 78 People don't think Jar Jar was the ultimate villain, Snoke. Oh.
But that got proven to be wrong.

Speaker 59 What are the big elephant things?

Speaker 72 Because

Speaker 81 I did play the video game.

Speaker 43 The video game rocked when the first video game, you just ride around him and you rope him off.

Speaker 11 And what is Bill Burr?

Speaker 64 He's a Mandalorian.

Speaker 91 Got it.

Speaker 16 Okay. Okay.
All right, Star Wars.

Speaker 78 All right.

Speaker 78 My 1-1, I think you guys know this.

Speaker 78 If people hated me before, I think this might be the end of my life.

Speaker 29 Yeah, it's going to be the one that I hated.

Speaker 78 And the end of my career with the AWLs, I apologize. I know the characters.
I've seen

Speaker 78 Twitter clips of red blogs.

Speaker 78 South Park. Oh,

Speaker 11 you've never watched an episode of South Park. Okay, Hank.

Speaker 98 That's not the one that I watched.

Speaker 98 Can we talk?

Speaker 92 Can we talk, Hank?

Speaker 2 I have seen enough episodes of South Park that I made myself ineligible, but I have probably seen less than six episodes of South Park.

Speaker 78 I've had roommates that have watched it. I never have really cared for it.
I've never sat down

Speaker 78 by myself or with a roommate and been like, I'm going to watch an episode of South Park.

Speaker 78 I've seen, you know, when they like, someone will post to Twitter, like, South Park did this, you know, version of whatever talking about current events. So I've seen clips.
I know Cartman.

Speaker 78 I know PC principal, Billy Football, the Big Balls guy. I'm with you, Hank.
There's a guy that always dies. Eric dies every episode or whatever.

Speaker 55 No, Kenny. Kenny.

Speaker 29 Kenny. I was going to say Cartman.

Speaker 20 I'm with you, Hank.

Speaker 2 Like, I had to take it off my list because

Speaker 13 I have sat down and watched probably like four to five of them, but I never have watched a full season.

Speaker 14 I don't really know

Speaker 76 the jokes.

Speaker 95 I know it's funny.

Speaker 17 I just never got into it. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Did you watch the movie?

Speaker 29 No. No.

Speaker 78 And I see my TikTok algorithm has the behind the scenes of them doing the voice.

Speaker 55 Yeah, they're incredible guys.

Speaker 78 It's funny stuff. It's like the funny.

Speaker 29 I'm ashamed.

Speaker 29 Yeah, I know. I'm a South Park.

Speaker 55 It's one of like my favorite shows.

Speaker 11 Were you not allowed to watch it when you were a kid?

Speaker 78 That's part of it. Yeah.
So I never watched it.

Speaker 55 I have one of those as well.

Speaker 17 I think South Park, for me, it just came out at a time that I kind of wasn't watching that type of TV.

Speaker 78 Yeah, I couldn't watch it in my house.

Speaker 78 When I got older, I never got into it.

Speaker 11 My parents were very cool about letting me watch, if it was in cartoon format, I could watch any show.

Speaker 11 So it was like Beavis and Butthead, Simpson, South Park from the time I was real young, which I'm thankful for. But South Park is a big one.

Speaker 11 I did not think you were going with South Park.

Speaker 78 I need to know what one you guys thought I had.

Speaker 36 We're not going to say it. Yeah.

Speaker 46 Because we don't want to trigger something that gets you to say it.

Speaker 78 I mean,

Speaker 78 I'll say it at the end. I also don't think...
I don't know. I think...

Speaker 64 Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 68 All right.

Speaker 24 We have more picks. Yeah.

Speaker 29 All right.

Speaker 78 Max. But that was the one.
I don't know what... Now I have no idea.

Speaker 55 Was it a movie or a TV show?

Speaker 93 TV show.

Speaker 29 TV.

Speaker 73 Honestly, I didn't have this one on my list because I didn't even think about it because I've never seen it, but that just just sparked me.

Speaker 93 I've never seen The Simpsons.

Speaker 98 What? Never seen The Simpsons.

Speaker 11 That's shocking. Ever?

Speaker 29 Never.

Speaker 11 Never seen it.

Speaker 11 That's a great pick. I should have said that too.

Speaker 73 It didn't even cross my mind because I've never even thought about watching it.

Speaker 68 Wow.

Speaker 73 Because it was one of those things, when I was a kid, I couldn't watch it. And then I just liked South Park and Family Guy.
So I was like,

Speaker 102 I don't care about The Simpsons.

Speaker 11 South Park.

Speaker 73 Yeah, it may have been something like Hank said, people around me have probably been watching watching it while I've, but I've never sat down and had the intent to like watch an episode of The Simpsons.

Speaker 11 I think seasons three through eight on The Simpsons are the best TV ever made.

Speaker 78 OG Simpsons. So

Speaker 78 Max gets OG Simpsons on this. OG Simpsons.

Speaker 61 You get OG Simpsons.

Speaker 62 All right, all right, all right, all right.

Speaker 71 Okay. Good pick.

Speaker 11 PFT? My 1-1 is going to be... The Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Speaker 11 I've never seen a Marvel movie.

Speaker 64 Any of them?

Speaker 11 I've never seen a Marvel movie. You've never seen Iron Man?

Speaker 29 Never seen Man's

Speaker 27 one that likes to move.

Speaker 98 I feel like you've seen at least one of these.

Speaker 20 You have to pick one of them.

Speaker 11 I haven't seen any of them.

Speaker 101 No, I think that counts.

Speaker 11 It's like Star Wars.

Speaker 29 No, no, no, I know, but I feel like you've seen at least one of them. No, no, I understand that.

Speaker 43 I'm saying I feel like there's one that he's seen that he doesn't realize he's seen.

Speaker 29 Okay, all right.

Speaker 55 That's my point.

Speaker 78 Unless it's Iron Man.

Speaker 11 Name the most common ones.

Speaker 78 It's Iron Man.

Speaker 37 Iron Man and none of the Avengers.

Speaker 11 I did see 15 minutes of Iron Man 2,

Speaker 72 but that's

Speaker 28 fine.

Speaker 49 I've seen an Avengers.

Speaker 78 Captain America. Nope.

Speaker 29 Spider-Man. Spider-Man.

Speaker 11 I have seen Batman. Daredevil.

Speaker 51 Spider-Man.

Speaker 78 But it has Tom Holland Spider-Man.

Speaker 85 Ant-Man? Nope.

Speaker 78 Batman's not an A-Man. No, Spider-Man.

Speaker 78 You haven't seen even the Toby McGuire? Have you Spider-Man?

Speaker 11 Any Spider-Man. Never watched the Spider-Man.

Speaker 64 That's insane.

Speaker 63 I haven't even more credit.

Speaker 55 I haven't either.

Speaker 78 You could even put the Spider-Man's on there. Yeah.

Speaker 73 Blade? Like the Toby McGuire.

Speaker 29 Blade is not. I might put a Marvel.

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 73 Isn't Blade a Marvel?

Speaker 29 I don't think Blade is.

Speaker 11 No, I don't know what that is. Yeah.

Speaker 33 I don't know.

Speaker 78 That's Guardians of the Galaxy.

Speaker 11 Guardians of the Galaxy.

Speaker 73 There's another one that's on him.

Speaker 55 I haven't seen the game.

Speaker 11 That's the one with the raccoon and the tree, right?

Speaker 55 Yeah, the tree.

Speaker 29 Endgame.

Speaker 78 I've only seen the Iron Man's in one of the first Endgame movie or the first Avengers movie.

Speaker 11 I promise you, I've never seen a Marvel movie. Yeah.
And they're like, if you go down the list.

Speaker 52 Black Panther.

Speaker 63 Oh, is that a Marvel?

Speaker 55 Oh, got him. Yes, Black Panther's Marvel.

Speaker 29 I did not see Black Panther.

Speaker 92 I did not see Black Panther.

Speaker 51 Yep, Black Panther too. Damn.

Speaker 94 Okay.

Speaker 17 I was actually worried about saying I hadn't seen Black Panther because I have not seen Black Panther.

Speaker 94 Black Panther is good.

Speaker 11 It's very good. I saw

Speaker 51 dang. Yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 11 All right, so I'll take that.

Speaker 98 That was honestly a terrorist right there.

Speaker 11 I'm going to take the Avengers franchise then.

Speaker 52 Yep, that works.

Speaker 11 I would also just know I've never seen a Marvel movie besides that. Yeah, besides that.

Speaker 41 I have literally never seen any of these movies.

Speaker 3 Not a single one.

Speaker 11 Blade is Marvel, by the way. Is that the Wesley Snipes? Yeah.

Speaker 11 Did you ever see Blade?

Speaker 11 I haven't seen Blade from back in the... Maybe I saw Blade 2.

Speaker 44 So you have, what, the endgame?

Speaker 11 Avengers? I've got the entire Avengers series. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 31 Got it.

Speaker 22 I had that on there as well.

Speaker 17 I haven't seen any of these.

Speaker 42 Okay. Not a single one.

Speaker 11 I hate that you found Black Panther. I forgot.

Speaker 70 I knew you had seen one.

Speaker 11 I'm going to dig into your choices now, big time.

Speaker 1 I mean, I knew you'd seen one.

Speaker 82 I was going to pick...

Speaker 1 I was going to pick...

Speaker 78 Wait, you've seen Mandalorian, haven't you?

Speaker 51 Oh.

Speaker 69 What?

Speaker 81 Baby Yoda.

Speaker 78 You never watched any of it?

Speaker 24 No, I like the memes and shit.

Speaker 40 I post the memes with the coffee.

Speaker 17 The Endgame was what I was going to pick as well.

Speaker 16 The Avengers.

Speaker 11 Avengers. Yeah, so I got the Avengers franchise.
And then my second, Harry Potter.

Speaker 11 Never seen a Harry Potter.

Speaker 89 Also, that's a show.

Speaker 11 Never read a book. Star Wars.

Speaker 37 But no, I haven't seen the Star Wars movie.

Speaker 9 You want to put movie?

Speaker 60 I'm just. Okay.

Speaker 104 We can put movie.

Speaker 9 I'm pretty sure I just post the memes because I thought he was the cutest thing ever.

Speaker 73 Maybe we should do like a different, like the show is red and like the movie is green on the graphic and do a little bit.

Speaker 43 I have never seen a Star Wars movie. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Okay, but Harry Potter.

Speaker 29 Yeah, I've never seen it. Yeah, no, that's it.

Speaker 11 Never read it. Those are two heavy hitters for you.
Never watched it.

Speaker 11 People get very mad at me about the Harry Potter thing. I know that Max looks like that one guy.

Speaker 78 Hagrid. Yeah.
I actually watched i read the books as a kid probably the last books i ever read uh

Speaker 11 and i i forget what caused it but i got into harry butter harry potter movie binge this year i watched them watch them all i do that like once every like three years i i love harry i haven't seen any harry potter as well i went on a harry potter podcast a couple years ago never saw anything they explained harry potter to me so i understand part of it and there's how there's houses right so you can be in a different clan yeah well i don't know i've never would you rather be gryffindor hufflepuff slitherin or ravenclaw ravenclaw easy answer slitherin that's that's a good one that's the very happy people yeah bad ravenclaw is a good answer ravenclaw's mid

Speaker 78 you want to be you want to be hufflepuff right gryffindor well it depends i want to be ravenclaw's not a bad pick okay uh max uh the wire never seen a single episode of terrace one that's been on

Speaker 78 like i have to watch this i have to watch this people are gonna hate this never Dwyer's favorite show of all time. Watch it probably once a year.
They're going to hate it.

Speaker 78 I have read the oral history, actually, of Dewyer. It's really good.

Speaker 11 Very good.

Speaker 11 Every season is good.

Speaker 78 Every character is great. There's no good guys.
There's no bad guys. The bad guys are good.
The good guys are bad.

Speaker 78 It's incredible.

Speaker 64 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 29 Shit.

Speaker 11 You don't know Omar?

Speaker 78 Omar Cummins.

Speaker 73 No, no, not at all. Damn.

Speaker 78 Chain of command, McNulty. I say that all the time.

Speaker 11 I feel like even if you haven't seen a lot of these shows, you've been exposed to enough gifts from the show.

Speaker 73 See, I know nothing. Like, I don't even know if I probably have seen wire gifts.
I would have no idea that they're from the wire.

Speaker 11 You've definitely seen the gif of

Speaker 11 Weeby scratching his chin when he realizes something's

Speaker 35 the oh shit. Price of the brick went up.

Speaker 24 Let him know we back up.

Speaker 90 Yep.

Speaker 13 That one you've definitely seen.

Speaker 73 That one sounds familiar. Yep.

Speaker 38 You've definitely seen that.

Speaker 27 Oh, okay.

Speaker 78 Such a good show.

Speaker 78 Wait.

Speaker 14 Am I up?

Speaker 77 Oh, no, I went first. Yeah.

Speaker 78 It's in order.

Speaker 78 I'm going to go. I said this on the show a couple weeks ago.
The Matrix.

Speaker 102 Yep.

Speaker 53 Red pill, blue pill.

Speaker 11 Good pick.

Speaker 78 Dodging bullets.

Speaker 11 You haven't seen any of them?

Speaker 78 We're living in a simulation. Yep.

Speaker 78 Like, red-pilled. Is red-pilled political or is that Matrix?

Speaker 11 It's become political. It's become political.

Speaker 11 But the initial reference of the red pill and the blue pill was the red pill, you can see what's really going on under the surface, and the blue blue pill is just go back to your life and fuck around.

Speaker 11 So do you want the truth?

Speaker 78 And what does he take in the movie? He takes a red pill.

Speaker 11 He takes a red pill.

Speaker 44 Matrix 1 was so good.

Speaker 68 Loved that movie.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 95 It was so good.

Speaker 65 It's a

Speaker 22 big-time deal, too.

Speaker 29 All right.

Speaker 1 I got two.

Speaker 66 I think I've said this one before.

Speaker 25 I've never seen a full episode of Friends.

Speaker 22 That one's on there.

Speaker 25 I've just never seen a full episode.

Speaker 30 That's a banger.

Speaker 11 I thought about putting that on my list. I think I've seen too many half-episodes.

Speaker 16 I've seen clips, but like I was a Seinfeld guy through and through.

Speaker 41 Yeah.

Speaker 22 I've seen every Seinfeld a thousand times. I just never liked friends.

Speaker 78 Once you realize that they put a laugh track for every single other word, it kind of ruins it. Yes.

Speaker 78 Not that I ever really loved it, but...

Speaker 11 Listening to friends from a different room will annoy the fuck out of you because you just hear pause laughter and you're like, there's no chance this show could be that funny.

Speaker 75 Yeah.

Speaker 29 All right.

Speaker 17 Here's the one that I'm really ashamed about. Really, really ashamed about because I definitely have just been like, yeah, I've seen it.

Speaker 25 and I truthfully have never seen it, and it's also movies that I would absolutely love, and I know I'd love.

Speaker 41 I've never seen a single Fast and Furious,

Speaker 11 yeah, it's good.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, this actually like pains me.

Speaker 78 I'm actually kind of, I've only seen a couple.

Speaker 43 It pains me to say it because, like, especially because Feidelberg is like one of my favorite people in the entire world.

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And his excitement for it gets me excited.

Speaker 17 I'm like, I know I'd love this.

Speaker 40 And it fucking pains me.

Speaker 25 I've never seen

Speaker 84 a single Fast and Furious.

Speaker 78 Feidelberg turned me on those, but I've never loved the movies.

Speaker 11 I saw the first two, and they're good that you can just turn your brain off. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But that's the type of movie I love.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it's a great turn your brain off. Yeah.

Speaker 51 So that hurts.

Speaker 58 It hurts.

Speaker 22 I'm happy I've been able to say it out loud.

Speaker 78 What's the.

Speaker 94 I don't want to talk about a cuh.

Speaker 63 Okay.

Speaker 27 It's me. Yeah.

Speaker 78 These are more. My last two are more from when we were younger or when I was younger.
Okay. Jurassic Park.

Speaker 77 Okay. Oh, you stole that from me.

Speaker 78 I never saw that. People would always say that.

Speaker 43 That was the original.

Speaker 16 When I said that like five years ago and people flipped on me.

Speaker 27 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 6 I should have seen that.

Speaker 24 You can get away with it.

Speaker 78 Yeah, because

Speaker 78 I feel like there's movies that when I was younger, like I had a lot of movies on VHS, and if it wasn't in my collection, I never saw it.

Speaker 11 It's really about the first one. The first Jurassic Park, I think, is

Speaker 11 the best. The first one with Chris Pratt, where he's doing the thing to the Raptors, the stop.

Speaker 78 No, yeah, I'm talking about the OpenStax. That one's pretty good, too, but the OG.

Speaker 36 Yep.

Speaker 73 Yeah, I've seen Jurassic World. I don't think I've ever seen Jurassic Park.

Speaker 11 Why the fuck don't we have Jurassic Park yet? Because

Speaker 29 why is that not a real thing?

Speaker 29 Why is that? You can take over the world.

Speaker 11 I don't give a fuck. Who cares? Instead of buying a website so that you can post on it, Elon, buy a fucking dinosaur, make dinosaurs for the people.
Yep.

Speaker 29 All right, Hank.

Speaker 68 Or no, Max.

Speaker 51 Good pick, Hank.

Speaker 43 I had it on my list.

Speaker 73 Never seen Gladiator.

Speaker 62 Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 73 Never seen Gladiator.

Speaker 29 And that's one

Speaker 73 that I know is such a cool guy movie to talk about.

Speaker 78 Are you not entertained?

Speaker 17 That's one, though, that I'm jealous of you because it is awesome.

Speaker 82 And there's a new one coming out. Yeah.

Speaker 64 So you can watch that one.

Speaker 73 I need to watch it, but I just never have.

Speaker 11 Walking Phoenix.

Speaker 55 But that movie is that movie holds up.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 9 We should watch it. Everyone should have to watch one of these and do a review.

Speaker 29 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 78 You guys have to watch eight movies.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I do have a lot of movies.

Speaker 78 Well, no, PFTs is like 20.

Speaker 17 No, he just got endgame. Is that

Speaker 64 Avengers is three or four?

Speaker 76 I have, what, how many Fast and Furious are there?

Speaker 78 Oh, you have Fast and Furious.

Speaker 27 You have

Speaker 78 10 Fast and Furious and 10 Star Wars.

Speaker 1 But that's also, it's easier to miss those because if you miss the first, you just say no.

Speaker 9 And that's what I've done. All right.

Speaker 30 You have two picks, PFT.

Speaker 11 I'm deeply ashamed of this one.

Speaker 11 Because I do think at some point I have said that I've seen one of them. Yep.

Speaker 93 The Godfather.

Speaker 55 What?

Speaker 72 I've never seen a Godfather.

Speaker 11 I've never seen a Godfather.

Speaker 57 There's no way that's true.

Speaker 11 It is true.

Speaker 44 I don't believe that.

Speaker 11 The scene I remember I saw, there was a grandfather.

Speaker 89 You've joked about it a million times about LeBron and you've known the characters.

Speaker 11 I know the characters.

Speaker 16 I feel like this is.

Speaker 21 Well, no, you can't say that. Oh, okay.

Speaker 29 I'm doing it.

Speaker 92 I know. I just

Speaker 29 shocked you.

Speaker 20 I know the amount of times we've talked about it.

Speaker 11 I know the Corleone family. I know that Fredo, I did it.
I know it was you, Fredo, and it breaks my heart. Kiss him, right? That's his brother, right?

Speaker 11 What? Fredo Corleone is Albert Shadow's brother. Yes.
Kisses him, says, I know that. I know the references.
I know that the old guy dies having a heart attack in his garden. Yeah.
Right?

Speaker 11 With his granddaughter around him.

Speaker 24 Grandson, I think.

Speaker 11 Never seen any of the Godfathers.

Speaker 78 I've only seen him like twice, so that's not that crazy. And the first one.
No, it's...

Speaker 72 The first one I watched in school.

Speaker 61 The crazy part I was saying is we've made fun of LeBron like a thousand times talking about The Godfather reading The Godfather.

Speaker 93 Right.

Speaker 78 There's been times where I've tried to watch Godfather 2 and I feel like it's a movie. It's as long as it is.
It puts me to sleep.

Speaker 78 I've turned it on and I fall asleep.

Speaker 11 It's so good. And so The Godfather 3 is the one with De Niro, right?

Speaker 78 No, Godfather 2. De Niro's in all.

Speaker 56 No.

Speaker 41 De Niro's in Godfather 2.

Speaker 11 But the third one is the one we don't talk about.

Speaker 79 Third one is just... Just when he's talking about the 2012.

Speaker 28 I've never seen Godfather 3.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 79 I've seen one and two.

Speaker 29 I've never seen Godfather 3. in.

Speaker 29 Yeah, they pull me back in. They pull me back in.

Speaker 49 That is it.

Speaker 11 I do want to watch them, but Hank kind of put the nail on the head. That's a good pick.
It's a long-ass movie.

Speaker 20 Yeah, you should watch them, though. They're great.

Speaker 49 You will enjoy that a lot of them.

Speaker 28 I am jealous of them.

Speaker 11 I know, and I will watch them.

Speaker 78 The first one I watched in film school, my teacher broke it all down, so it was more interesting. But I think if I was watching those on my own, I wouldn't have got past one.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 Okay. For the last pick, I want to say I almost took one, but out of the spirit of fairness, I've seen over half this movie.
I've seen probably 60 minutes of it. So I did not take Toy Story.

Speaker 60 Okay.

Speaker 11 But I almost did. I've never watched the entire thing.

Speaker 1 I didn't watch Toy Story till I had kids.

Speaker 23 Yeah. Like, I didn't see it as a kid.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 11 So I'm going to go with Hunger Games.

Speaker 11 Never seen Hunger Games. Good pick.

Speaker 50 Good pick.

Speaker 79 Good movies. Good movies.
Good books.

Speaker 47 I'm jealous of you if you're able to watch Godfather.

Speaker 78 I think I just read, I just realized I've only read books of movies.

Speaker 11 Do you ever read the book first?

Speaker 79 Of movies.

Speaker 9 You watch the movie, then read the book?

Speaker 78 Hunger Games, I watched the movie, and then the next movie hadn't been out yet, so I read the book because I wanted to find out what happened.

Speaker 51 Got it.

Speaker 78 Catching fire.

Speaker 50 Okay.

Speaker 3 Max?

Speaker 73 I have the same one as PFT is that I don't think that I've seen it, but I may have seen it, so I'm not going to take it,

Speaker 73 which would have been The Departed.

Speaker 61 Hank's seen it 17 times the last two weeks.

Speaker 29 Yeah, I don't think I've seen it.

Speaker 47 I've sat next to Hank on two different plane trips, and he's been watching on both plane trips.

Speaker 64 I was finishing it.

Speaker 11 It's a good plane movie. Yeah.

Speaker 78 Well, it was after Missoula, and then I

Speaker 78 was finishing it. I wasn't watching it.

Speaker 11 Okay. You just go back and forth between the town, the departed,

Speaker 11 Goodwill Haunting.

Speaker 52 A big three.

Speaker 11 It is a nice big three for city movies.

Speaker 73 The one that I know that I haven't seen that you guys are going to get mad about is Peaky Blinders.

Speaker 50 Ah, that's not mad.

Speaker 37 I'm just like, that's kind of like the Godfather with PFT.

Speaker 21 I'm like, I'm actually kind of jealous. Yeah.
See, those are so good.

Speaker 11 Season one is really good. Yeah.

Speaker 71 So good.

Speaker 86 They're great. Those are great shows and movies.

Speaker 11 What city are there in Birmingham?

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 11 It's got a little Philly in it.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 29 It's like the Philly of England. Grit.

Speaker 29 Okay.

Speaker 78 Hank. This one I think about saying every year around Christmas time when the debate happens, die hard.

Speaker 73 I had that on my list.

Speaker 51 I had that on my list.

Speaker 78 Never seen it. The movie.
I don't know if it's a Christmas movie or not because I've never seen it.

Speaker 11 Have you seen any of them? No. The Vengeance.

Speaker 78 I just know there's a tower because they put it in Call of Duty one year. Okinawa Tower or whatever.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Die Hard One is awesome. Awesome.

Speaker 77 Awesome. So good.

Speaker 78 And I know that Snape from Harry Potter, I believe, is the bad guy of Die Hard.

Speaker 73 Well, they don't know Snape, so yeah.

Speaker 70 I don't know. Yeah, there's nothing anything about that.

Speaker 11 Is Snape the hat?

Speaker 73 They don't know Harry Potter, and we don't know Die Hard.

Speaker 29 It's the hat that

Speaker 63 is.

Speaker 23 What's wrong with Harry Potter?

Speaker 11 Like, a hat tells you where you have to go to school? I guess that's what sorting. They'll do a national signing day anyway.

Speaker 64 Sorting at.

Speaker 38 All right, so my last pick.

Speaker 47 I'm going to go back to the TV show.

Speaker 2 All I know about this show is that people were really pissed at the end, but I've never seen a second of Lost.

Speaker 11 I had that on my list too, yeah. Not a second of Lost.

Speaker 78 I also only watched that in school. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Your school played Lost for you?

Speaker 78 We watched the first season, yeah.

Speaker 29 I know the premise was awesome.

Speaker 29 What school did you go to?

Speaker 55 This isn't high school.

Speaker 29 However, were your teachers?

Speaker 72 Yeah, dude. Every day we'd go into classes and watch Lost.
It was sick.

Speaker 54 No, Lost is great.

Speaker 73 That was the first show I ever binged. Like, I got Netflix when I was in

Speaker 73 high school, and I learned that you could binge TV shows. That was the first one I ever binged.
I stayed up to like 4 a.m.

Speaker 55 every day watching it.

Speaker 11 What grade did you get in that class?

Speaker 78 Probably like a C.

Speaker 11 In the Lost class?

Speaker 78 It was an elective, and I forget what the premise even was. We watched that.
We watched Lost, and we watched

Speaker 78 the Bear documentary.

Speaker 51 Oh, Chris.

Speaker 52 Oh, the guy who got eaten?

Speaker 73 This class sounds awesome.

Speaker 55 You just watched a ton of time.

Speaker 11 I think Hank's teacher was just hungover every day.

Speaker 73 Was it like a psych class?

Speaker 72 It was an elective.

Speaker 78 I forget what the premise of the elective was, but it was a great, great class. It was me and like,

Speaker 78 I don't know why. I just remember it was me and a lot of females were in the class.
Like there wasn't any other guy.

Speaker 64 Female females.

Speaker 29 I like that.

Speaker 24 Look at that female.

Speaker 29 That's sick, dude.

Speaker 72 All right.

Speaker 72 What do you guys got?

Speaker 17 Let's do a brain dump.

Speaker 11 I had Star Trek. Yep.
I've never seen a movie or a TV show of Star Trek.

Speaker 73 I don't even feel bad about that.

Speaker 50 Yeah, no, that's a fucking nerd.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I, if, if somebody were to ask me, like, are you a Star Wars guy or a Star Trek guy, I would immediately say Star Wars, despite the fact I've never seen any of them. Yeah, yep.

Speaker 11 Um, Rick and Morty, same, had that on my list.

Speaker 73 I've seen a couple episodes.

Speaker 11 Rick and Morty, people come up to me all the time and they're like, dude, you would love Rick and Morty. Yeah, like they want me, they get mad that I haven't seen him.
Yeah, yeah. I had Mad Men.

Speaker 55 Yep, yeah, I had Mad Men.

Speaker 78 Madman. I like like started that, but I couldn't put it in good faith because I think I've watched two episodes.

Speaker 11 I tried to watch the first episode. Got about 20 minutes in.
I was like, there's something else going on.

Speaker 16 I texted my wife used to tell me, what haven't I seen?

Speaker 21 Because she's like, there's so many times where she's watching a show and I'm watching sports, but she wrote West Wing, Downton Abbey, Mad Men, Friday Night Lights.

Speaker 63 Ooh, Friday Night Lights.

Speaker 97 I've never seen it.

Speaker 27 Friday Night Lights.

Speaker 72 It's a football show. I saw the movie.

Speaker 55 Yeah, it's like loosely a football show.

Speaker 78 No, you've got to watch Friday Night Lights Lights. Weidelberg is going to kill you.

Speaker 55 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 11 I have never seen Friday Night Lights until like two years ago, and I watched the first couple episodes. It seems like it's going to be a good show.

Speaker 60 Dexter.

Speaker 29 Dexter.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 37 Boardwalk Empire, Yellowstone, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter.

Speaker 13 Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 70 Homeland. Lord of the Rights.

Speaker 51 Homeland is a big one.

Speaker 11 Lord of the Rings is a massive one. Homeland.

Speaker 11 Just watch the

Speaker 11 first two seasons of Homeland. Yeah, Yeah, so those are all the ones I haven't seen.

Speaker 41 She just brained them.

Speaker 65 She's like, here you go. All these popular shows.

Speaker 54 Yeah.

Speaker 29 Okay.

Speaker 73 I've never saw Indiana Jones and the House of Cards.

Speaker 52 Those were the two that

Speaker 35 the big ones on the show.

Speaker 69 Should I pick Lord of the Rings over Lost?

Speaker 43 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 98 I don't know which one's bigger.

Speaker 55 I think so. You have Lord of the Rings and Stars.

Speaker 29 Lord of the Rings is banger.

Speaker 20 Lost.

Speaker 20 I don't even know.

Speaker 1 I've never even thought about even like looking at Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 24 That's how uninterested I am in it.

Speaker 11 I think the second movie is like three and a half hours long.

Speaker 47 Never, it's never even crossed my mind to be like, oh, I should check this thing out.

Speaker 56 Like, I don't want, I know there's a Hobbit and a ring.

Speaker 11 So, probably the reason why Big Cat took lost is the same reason I was thinking about taking lost, which is when that show came out,

Speaker 11 it was massive. It was all you talked about.
And you had weeks between episodes.

Speaker 11 So you would just fill in your school week or your work week, just talk with people about like, what do you think is going to happen? Where are they?

Speaker 11 So it was like a big part of life in the early 2000s. Yeah.
Just talking about loss.

Speaker 22 Yeah, that was big.

Speaker 73 By the way, Hank, I thought you were going to say The Office.

Speaker 73 I thought you were going to say that you'd never know.

Speaker 41 We thought you'd never seen The Office.

Speaker 78 That's like the only show I've watched.

Speaker 29 Oh,

Speaker 92 why did that rumor start?

Speaker 69 I love The Office.

Speaker 29 Oh, we literally watched it. I've never seen The Office.

Speaker 36 One thing I, that's Shane.

Speaker 11 Shane's never seen The Office. Shane's never seen any of this.

Speaker 72 I watched. I've never seen this show.
Shane never had a television show.

Speaker 78 I think there's people that watch The Office in real time and then people that watch it after the fact.

Speaker 50 I've done both.

Speaker 78 Same, but like I was watching it in real time, too.

Speaker 56 Yeah, I was watching it real time.

Speaker 78 The episode after the Super Bowl was

Speaker 78 iconic episodes of all time.

Speaker 61 The rumor started that you had not seen The Office.

Speaker 41 We were just sitting around being like, How do you not see The Facebook?

Speaker 29 I might continue to believe that.

Speaker 78 I mean, like, Parks and Rec have only seen a couple episodes, but I have seen a couple episodes.

Speaker 11 Have you seen Seinfeld?

Speaker 78 A million times. I had the Seinfeld, Seinfeld DVDs, Office DVDs were like the two shows I had on DVD.
I've watched every episode like a million times.

Speaker 11 People in the office are chatting. They're saying that you've never seen The Office or Seinfeld.

Speaker 78 Bro, let's go head to head. I'll take you all.
Maybe not big cat, but I think I could, I think I could go head to head with anyone in this office on

Speaker 11 The Office.

Speaker 78 I have no idea. Michael Scott's office.
I stopped watching after he left.

Speaker 95 D'Angelo Vickers was pretty good.

Speaker 78 Yeah, like sometimes I'll go. I'll be scrolling TV and I'll turn on episode.
I'm like, I haven't seen this. And it's because

Speaker 78 Michael Scott left.

Speaker 11 What was Dwight's cousin's name?

Speaker 31 Moz.

Speaker 11 You have seen it.

Speaker 78 You're good. Yeah.

Speaker 102 You're right. Also, wrote the show.
I have no idea.

Speaker 29 What was Andy's a cappella group called?

Speaker 62 The

Speaker 62 God.

Speaker 11 Oh, I got this one.

Speaker 78 What the fuck is it? It's someone with the mascot. No.

Speaker 11 Was it Here Comes Treble?

Speaker 33 Here Comes Treble. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 49 I didn't know that. I didn't know.

Speaker 1 I asked that question and I was like, wait, am I thinking of Pitch Perfect?

Speaker 11 Can you name one of his co-singers in Here Comes Treble?

Speaker 55 Yes, Brockley Rob. Frockley Rob.

Speaker 29 Yep.

Speaker 35 Great show. Great show.

Speaker 33 Great show.

Speaker 11 Hank, I don't think you've ever seen The Office.

Speaker 90 Can we go see The Godfather together?

Speaker 72 I can't wait to see The Godfather.

Speaker 11 I really want to see it. Which one one should I start with?

Speaker 70 One. Okay.

Speaker 73 I think everyone should have to do one of these.

Speaker 11 Yeah. One of these.

Speaker 40 I'll do all the Fast and Furious's.

Speaker 11 And we should do a recap.

Speaker 20 I'm screwed.

Speaker 89 I don't have anything I can watch.

Speaker 29 I'll do Gladiator. I get Gladiator.

Speaker 21 I have 10 movies, 7 movies, a show that was syndicated and on for 15 years.

Speaker 79 And how many seasons of Lost were there?

Speaker 71 So many.

Speaker 11 What's the best Fast and the Furious? Because I feel like you can jump into Fast and the Furious.

Speaker 73 One Fast and the Furious.

Speaker 78 Probably the when I see you again.

Speaker 102 I like Fast Five.

Speaker 44 Okay.

Speaker 73 I've only seen like the first two, I think. I'm trying to do a thing where I would like binge Fast and Furious like it was a TV show, and then I stopped after, like, I think, like,

Speaker 27 movie three. Yeah.

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Speaker 48 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest.

Speaker 39 It is our chill week interviews sponsored by Coors Light and Chevy Silverado. It's four-time Pro Bowler, New Orleans Saints quarterback, Derek Carr.

Speaker 41 Derek, first of all, thank you for joining us. Absolutely.

Speaker 76 We appreciate it.

Speaker 86 Let's start.

Speaker 48 Let's ease in with some golf. How are we feeling about the golf?

Speaker 93 Golf, the game is nice right now.

Speaker 29 Okay.

Speaker 93 I don't know what that means because you could wake up in golf and it could be terrible again. Right.

Speaker 93 So we'll see how the weekend goes, but I feel confident.

Speaker 67 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Golf's a weird sport where, for me, at least sometimes when I wake up and I feel great, I play terribly. When I wake up and I feel awful, I go out there and I just play really well.
So I don't know.

Speaker 11 It probably says more about me mentally than anything else.

Speaker 27 Definitely.

Speaker 11 For sure. But yeah, so what's the expectation this week? What would you be happy with?

Speaker 93 Expectation, top 10. That's the expectation.
I've gotten better every year, top 20 last year.

Speaker 5 Oh, you're a stick.

Speaker 93 I mean, I play quarterback.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 55 We have to be. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 29 It's pitchers and quarterbacks.

Speaker 93 Pitchers and quarterbacks. We have to be.
Yeah. And so

Speaker 93 hopefully top 10, and then try and, you know, if you got a chance on the last day, go and win it. Yeah.

Speaker 38 How's the body feeling?

Speaker 48 Because I think you broke the record for most injuries last year.

Speaker 33 What was the full list?

Speaker 93 Full list. Oh, man.
Two concussions, some stuff about my shoulder that

Speaker 93 it was jacked up.

Speaker 102 Okay. Jacked up shoulder.

Speaker 93 Jacked up shoulder.

Speaker 93 And then two different broken ribs.

Speaker 27 Oh, my God.

Speaker 11 How many ribs have you broken in your career?

Speaker 93 Oh,

Speaker 63 I think I'm up to five, five, or six.

Speaker 11 Nobody will ever break the record for Drew Brees.

Speaker 48 He broke a lot of ribs that year.

Speaker 93 On that one, on one hit, too.

Speaker 27 Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 93 Yeah. And then just like being a rotational athlete, like you, I did one, then it got better, and I did the other one.
But like, you mentioned doing that many at once. I know.

Speaker 93 I'm still trying to throw. I was like, that's miserable.

Speaker 48 So how long after the season ended did you feel like you were back to 100%? Or maybe the answer is you're not yet.

Speaker 93 No, I definitely, I feel 100% going into camp.

Speaker 99 So that's awesome.

Speaker 93 Okay. I was able to do everything.
My shoulder didn't feel good until like probably when we were coming back in in April.

Speaker 93 That one, it just took a while.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 93 You know, that one just took a while. But they told me it was going to take a while, but it is what it is.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think Big Cat mentioned this to you when he met you yesterday, but we were feeling for you last year, and you were the most injured quarterback.

Speaker 11 And we were just like, not because we had anything against you. We were like, Derek, please take a seat for a week so that Jameis can get it.

Speaker 102 We just want Jameis.

Speaker 27 We all love Jameis. One week in Jameis.

Speaker 11 So he does seem like the best locker room guy ever.

Speaker 93 Yeah, Jameis is one of the greatest teammates I've ever had in my life.

Speaker 93 Like, there would be things like if I said something in practice, hey, I need, hey, like this, man, he was like times 10 louder and like, hey, he needs it like this.

Speaker 93 And like, just as a quarterback, you know, you're walking, I walked into a situation where, you know, he was their guy, you know, and who knows what happened the year before.

Speaker 93 I didn't pay much attention to it, but I know it was tough on him. Yeah.

Speaker 93 And now I'm walking that situation. So who knows what it's going to be like? You know, the organization wants to go in a different direction, all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 93 But he like blew my mind on just the kind of person he was. You know, like I love him as a player.
You know, we all love watching him because he does not care.

Speaker 63 No, and it's, yeah, it's like, you know, you're going to watch something exciting.

Speaker 39 Whether it be good or bad, it's going to be exciting.

Speaker 93 It's going to be exciting. Someone's band's going to play.
Yeah. We just don't know which one's the best.

Speaker 93 But the one thing I love about Jameis is, you know, he doesn't get enough credit for just how good of a player he is. Yeah.
You know, because he is hilarious. He is a funny teammate.

Speaker 93 He has all the sound bites and all that, like the memes galore, right? But he's a great player, but he's just one of the greatest people. Yeah.

Speaker 67 And you guys know that.

Speaker 27 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 20 So you, I mean, you have an interesting career because

Speaker 48 your older brother, David, gets drafted number one overall, goes to the Texans. I think he broke the record for most sacks taken.

Speaker 50 Still has it. Still has it.

Speaker 11 Sam didn't take it from last year. I know.
It was like neck and neck for a while.

Speaker 102 Yeah. Still has it.

Speaker 33 Still has it.

Speaker 48 It was an expansion team, by the way, too.

Speaker 16 So it's like an impossible spot to get into.

Speaker 48 You're what, like a teenager when you're watching all this. Was there any moment where you're watching it?

Speaker 48 You're like, football might not be for me because this, I mean, you have to see, like, you're sitting there and you're like, I feel for my brother because he's just put in a terrible spot.

Speaker 93 Absolutely. You know, just as a, you know, I'm just a kid.
I'm like, I'm pretty good at basketball.

Speaker 29 Yeah, right.

Speaker 93 I'm a good shortstop. Right.
And, you know, but like at the end of the day, I knew what I was just blessed and called to do. You know, football was just, it just came easy to me.

Speaker 93 And so like, I'm watching that and I was like, well, what a great opportunity for me to learn. Yeah.

Speaker 93 And I remember Reggie McKenzie, our GM with the Raiders, he said, the reason I wanted to pick you so bad was you lived, you know, a very difficult thing to watch. Right.

Speaker 93 And your brother taught you. You were there with him.
Like you were at his house every day.

Speaker 99 Right.

Speaker 93 And my brother just groomed me, taught me everything he could, you know, got me around all the guys. And so like football at that point, I was like.

Speaker 93 That path looks so easy.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 93 You know, obviously it's not, but, you know, just it, it looked normal. Right.

Speaker 27 You know, right.

Speaker 48 How hard was it, though? Because I, you know, we're fans. We sit on the couch.

Speaker 39 A guy gets sacked. We're like, get up.

Speaker 48 Like, you know, like, come on, pussy, get up.

Speaker 9 But it's your brother and it's your family is watching this and him.

Speaker 51 He's going through basically literal torture.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 48 Was it just like agonizing at times to watch him try to make it in the NFL and have that go down?

Speaker 93 Yeah, you know, the hardest part for me was like, I didn't understand the why yet. Because, you know, I'm just 15, 16 years old.
I'm sitting there watching it. I don't know why.

Speaker 93 You know, I don't know what the protection. I don't know what's going on.
And the hardest part was watching like my mom, my grandma, and like his wife. Like, that was the hardest part for me.

Speaker 93 Just as you know, we have a close family. We all love each other so dearly and deeply.
And so I felt like their emotions, you know, like watching his wife go through.

Speaker 93 I'm like, golly, like, she's like a nervous wreck every game because, like, is he going to be okay after this? Yeah. It wasn't like, are we going to win? It was like, I just want him to be intact.

Speaker 93 Yeah.

Speaker 38 Just try not to get sacked more than five times today.

Speaker 93 100%.

Speaker 93 But you want to talk about, like, I always prided myself on being a tough, tough, tough football player, play through anything, all that but like some of the stuff that he went through like I was like that's where I learned it yeah but I didn't I haven't had to deal with some of the stuff he did but you know thankfully but watching it was hard but it also gave me confidence to know like all right I you know he's like teaching me protections you know if you maybe if you're not so good here you know this is a way to fix that yeah so it was a really good learning lesson it's also I would imagine like difficult because the NFL and all pro sports a lot of it is the situation like where you end up and who you're around and and the situation that you're put in Like, was it difficult for him to watch that and be like, if I had just been drafted a little bit differently, different team, different circumstance, things could have gone a different way for me.

Speaker 93 Yeah, you know, like,

Speaker 93 he won't say it, but like for me watching, now that I know what was going on, I can go back and watch his games. I'm like, holy crap.
You know, like, I know what I'm seeing.

Speaker 93 And, you know, I go back and I'm like, dude, like, he's, he's way more talented than I am. Yeah.
He's 240, you know, runs a 4-6, throws the ball 85 yards, like genius smart.

Speaker 93 It's like when he went to New York and he was with Eli, like it was really cool. He's like, I got an organization with like a great team, great system, great defense, all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 93 He's like, I'd go in the game, and it was like, we go right down the field. It was easy.

Speaker 93 He's like, I never felt football like that since college.

Speaker 93 And so, yeah, of course you think, like, man, what if he was in a different situation? Yeah. You know, so it'll never happen.

Speaker 48 But it's a tough one to deal with, yeah, because you just have to sit there and be like, what if?

Speaker 11 It's interesting because where he got drafted, you end up moving, the family moved to Texas, right? And so you played high school football in Texas for a little bit.

Speaker 11 The fact that he's on the Texans, I know how seriously they take high school football down there.

Speaker 93 Oh, man.

Speaker 11 You get like a period in your school day dedicated to football. That's right.

Speaker 11 The fact that he was with the Texans might have made you a better quarterback just because of the environment that you got to play in, which is kind of crazy to think about.

Speaker 93 Yeah, 100%. Like, I got to play against Houston, especially, you know, Texas 5A football.
Like, it was insane. You know, we're going against, we played one team, had 11 D1 dudes just on their defense.

Speaker 93 And you're like, you know, that's, you're not going to get that competition in Fresno. Yeah.
You know, no offense, but that's my hometown. But I was like, you're not going to get that.

Speaker 93 So it absolutely helped. And then being able to, you know, throw routes to Andre Johnson wasn't bad.
That doesn't hurt either.

Speaker 27 That would definitely.

Speaker 11 That's a fair point.

Speaker 11 And one thing your brother's really good at, he is the number one Derek Carr defender. It's true.
He's got your back. And it's good to have family in your corner like that.

Speaker 11 And he will go after anyone that says anything bad about you.

Speaker 11 When you were growing up and he was in the league, I know you don't listen to your own media. You know, you got to try to tune out and not listen to

Speaker 67 sports talk radio.

Speaker 11 Yeah. It's rat poison, right? Even if it's good, it's like just false sense of security.
But when you're growing up and your brother's in the league,

Speaker 11 are you listening to what the media is saying about him? And then are you like calling up sports talk radio shows?

Speaker 35 You're like, this is Derek from Sugarland.

Speaker 49 You shut your mouth about Dave.

Speaker 93 No, you know what's funny is like back then media was so different.

Speaker 93 Y'all remember like it was like blogs.

Speaker 93 So I'm not going on a website to look at a blog.

Speaker 48 You actually have to like opt into it.

Speaker 93 Yeah, you have to like choose, I need to see this.

Speaker 93 And so for me, that was like, it was just newspaper. But like, I'm, you know, teenager.
I'm not reading the newspaper. Right.
So, right.

Speaker 93 And even like the team, like I would play against people, and they would just think it was cool that your brother was in the NFL. Yeah.
You know, and so

Speaker 93 I never had to deal with anything. I don't like what he dealt with or his wife dealt with.
But for me as a kid, it was just like, my brother's in the NFL.

Speaker 99 That's sick. Yeah.

Speaker 81 Yeah. Yeah.
And then you have another brother, right?

Speaker 55 Dude, yeah.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 48 And he's the one who blocks everyone on Twitter. Oh, he's blocked.

Speaker 91 I I love that. He's ride or die.

Speaker 29 He's aggressive.

Speaker 29 I think we're all blocked.

Speaker 93 Yeah, his fuse is about this big.

Speaker 93 He's like 6'6 ⁇ , three hundo, you know, benches 450. So it's like, I mean, he can do whatever he wants.
Yeah.

Speaker 35 And he just, he patrols the streets for you.

Speaker 75 Do you know that?

Speaker 38 Like, that he just has everyone blocked?

Speaker 93 I didn't know that he had everybody blocked, which is hilarious. Yeah.

Speaker 90 No, it's like the most ride or die thing that I love.

Speaker 55 It's like, yeah, it's your brother.

Speaker 48 Like, of course he's going to block anyone who says shit about you.

Speaker 29 Of course.

Speaker 93 And I'll take him blocking someone rather than him reacting. Because there's times where he'll react.
I'm like, bro, it doesn't matter, bro.

Speaker 93 Like, they're doing a job.

Speaker 93 At the end of the day, if I saw him, they'd probably be like, what's up, Derek?

Speaker 94 What's up?

Speaker 29 Yeah, right.

Speaker 93 And so I was like, bro, don't like, don't react to him. But for me to say that to him, I'm still little brother.
So he's like, yeah, bro. Like, shut up.

Speaker 94 Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 38 Now's probably a good time to bring this up then.

Speaker 11 You actually blocked me on Twitter.

Speaker 70 Oh, I did.

Speaker 27 And what was it about?

Speaker 11 Well, so I did some research because when you're not blocked.

Speaker 20 When you left the checked.

Speaker 11 You left the Raiders and then you posted posted like a goodbye statement, okay. And then, uh, the guy sent that in the group chat, they're like, Hey, Derek Carr just said goodbye.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I couldn't see it, and I was like, Oh, what's going on? He's got me blocked. So, uh, Hank looked it up.
We did this live on PMT like three years ago. Yep.

Speaker 11 Uh, so you tweeted out, this is like seven years ago. Okay, uh, those who control their tongue will have a long life.
Opening your mouth can ruin everything.

Speaker 11 Yeah, and I replied, Are you talking about herpes?

Speaker 33 So, I think that's a fair reply, right?

Speaker 63 Yeah, that is.

Speaker 94 Yo, that's so funny.

Speaker 93 That's a fair reply.

Speaker 11 Yeah, so I think that's what it did it, but maybe you just saw herpes and you were like, block.

Speaker 29 Block.

Speaker 93 Maybe, yeah, because that doesn't seem like something I'd block you for. Usually, honestly, if I block you, it's probably something to do, someone said something about my teammate, my team, or me.

Speaker 103 Yeah.

Speaker 93 And it has nothing to do. Like, I had this, this one dude with the Raiders, like media.

Speaker 67 He was like, you blocked me.

Speaker 93 I'm like, you probably said something stupid. Yeah, right.
And I just don't want someone to like it or what. And I see it.

Speaker 29 Right.

Speaker 93 And I said, it has nothing is, it's freaking social media it's not personal right you know but i was like my mindset is like i know i'm emotional so i i have to defend myself to get away from that yeah and so i don't know i don't think the herpes thing would have got me yeah um it could have been something else but this is the one interaction i think that's hilarious that we had uh but

Speaker 11 i'm totally fine with you blocking me i think it's probably good for you to block me you don't need to see my thoughts that's true very dumb yeah if everyone in this room is agreeing i probably should agree with you yeah yeah just keep me blocked that's actually

Speaker 11 you should do that at the rookie symposium just put out like a list of people block all the aggregators

Speaker 11 Block PFT comments.

Speaker 35 If I'm not, if I'm not blocked, so if PFT has something he wants to tweet at you, he can tell me.

Speaker 48 And then I'll be like, this is coming from PFT.

Speaker 93 I think that's a great way to do it.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then you can judge from that.

Speaker 97 And then I'll get blocked.

Speaker 29 Yeah. That's fine.

Speaker 63 I don't care.

Speaker 29 That's hilarious. I mean,

Speaker 4 you said it.

Speaker 48 You are emotional, which I feel like everyone has always been like, Derek Carr is one of the best teammates. And he's the heartbeat of the team, especially with everything you guys went through.

Speaker 48 That Raiders season, coaches, you know, the

Speaker 27 was it Ruggs?

Speaker 99 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 48 I blinked his, I blinked his name for a sec. Sorry.
Yep. Um, do you think too that maybe because your uh eyebrows and your eyelashes are a little dark, people think you're wearing mascara?

Speaker 93 Everybody, look, I can try.

Speaker 29 Have you ever worn mascara?

Speaker 91 Never

Speaker 93 once in my life. Are you sure? Try and prove it to you.
Yep, there's nothing there. Nothing coming off.

Speaker 11 Is it tattooed on?

Speaker 93 Uh, no. Have you? I have a lot of tattoos, but no.

Speaker 48 Do you realize that sometimes it looks like you're wearing mascara? Absolutely.

Speaker 99 Like,

Speaker 93 my whole life I had to deal with that. I used to get made fun of when I was a kid.
And it was my mom's fault because she prayed that I'd have these bright blue eyes.

Speaker 93 And I was like, well, God maybe just made my eyelashes darker so my eyes look better.

Speaker 67 Yeah.

Speaker 93 Mom, that's really your fault.

Speaker 99 Yeah, that is.

Speaker 93 I get made fun of all the freaking time, bro. I'm like.
I don't know how else to prove it to everybody.

Speaker 29 I think you should start wearing mascara.

Speaker 94 It would actually be ridiculous. Yeah, right.

Speaker 27 Like, then everyone's like,

Speaker 86 yeah, oh, it looks like Derek Carr wears mascara.

Speaker 90 It's like, yeah, I do. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 58 What are you going to say now?

Speaker 93 Oh, yeah. I got the whole goth thing.

Speaker 93 The whole, oh, I was like, bro, like, I don't know how else to react.

Speaker 93 I did think that you were the first goth quarterback when you got drafted yeah expecting you to show up wearing like a cannibal corpse shirt and just like sulking around all the time gruden would have had a lot of fun with that oh gruden used to tell me that's what brings it up is like he would be like we'd have like a bad game or we'd lose he'd be like he'd look at me with his little growl and be like you love the misery

Speaker 55 i really don't i really don't love the misery yeah i mean he's an all-time football guy i would imagine he's uh he gave it to you guys a lot i'm sure absolutely you know what What people don't know about him is like, one, everyone on our team loved him.

Speaker 103 Yeah. Hands down.

Speaker 93 He came out and told us everything he said. This is what I said.
This is what I meant, guys. Like, hopefully, you know me by now, how I feel about you.
And we're like, okay.

Speaker 93 And we went on with our day. We didn't know it was going to lead to what it led to.

Speaker 93 And then

Speaker 93 I guess when you call a commissioner, certain things. Yeah.

Speaker 29 It's probably not going to end well. Yeah,

Speaker 67 obviously. Yeah.

Speaker 63 It's probably not going to end well.

Speaker 27 That was kind of a cool line, though. Yeah.
Not going to lie.

Speaker 93 But he just, like, he would obviously rip everybody. He would tell me going out to practice.

Speaker 93 He's like, look, look, I'm going to cuss you out because I need to cuss somebody else out and they need to see the quarterback getting ripped.

Speaker 99 I'd be like, absolutely, dude.

Speaker 27 Like, I don't care.

Speaker 48 Would he ever go like extra when you're like, all right.

Speaker 93 He would keep going and I'd be like, all right, bro. Like, better be squabbling.

Speaker 67 We did it.

Speaker 63 We cussed out. Yeah, you proved your point.

Speaker 93 He was great because,

Speaker 93 as you guys see, like all the clips of him doing that to guys, like. There's not enough clips of how much he would love on a guy and encourage him.

Speaker 93 Like any free agent we would sign, veteran, he would put like clips of them up in the team meeting and he'd show like their three best plays. And he'd just be like, look at this dude.

Speaker 93 You're going to play your best football for me. This is what we're going to do.
And I'm going to put you in position. And like, all of a sudden, everyone's like, I'll run through a wall for this guy.

Speaker 93 You know, so he just, he doesn't get enough credit for that side of him. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Would he just walk around muttering to himself, like, spider two, why banana?

Speaker 67 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 70 Spider two, why banana?

Speaker 93 Jeff Leonardo is like one of his like closest friends, okay? And what Jeff Leonardo would do is any saying he would have or a play that he always said, he'd make shirts.

Speaker 93 So we'd come in one day and there'd just be like a picture of a spider two and a banana.

Speaker 93 And so every day, just he would have sayings. He would literally be mumbling them to himself.
And the next day, Jeff would have a shirt with it.

Speaker 27 I love it.

Speaker 97 It was great.

Speaker 48 He loved running Spider 2Y Banana. Absolutely.

Speaker 93 That was one of our favorites.

Speaker 48 Was there ever a time you're like, all right, maybe this doesn't call for Spider 2Y Banana Coach?

Speaker 93 You know what's crazy with him is he's the king of that play. He called it.
Like, I want to say we were like 100% on that play.

Speaker 29 Listen, it works.

Speaker 28 Spam it.

Speaker 85 Yeah. He's like, he's playing Madden.

Speaker 90 He's just spamming a play over and over.

Speaker 93 We used to do the Y Banana, the corner. Then we would do like the little hide one.
You know, you always see like that. You look this way and then throw it to the guy wide open.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 93 We hit that play. I'm not kidding you.
I was like, there's no way it's going to work. Like four weeks in a row.
Right. And it was open every time.
That's crazy.

Speaker 99 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 11 And you can't shake off Spider 2 Y Banana.

Speaker 99 You can't be like, no, we're not running that.

Speaker 93 That'll be in every playbook for the rest of my life.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I imagine that you got to spend some time with John Madden as well.

Speaker 93 I didn't get time.

Speaker 93 Just family members, but which is, it sucks. Yeah.
Him and Kenny Stabler. Like, I met Kenny Stabler's family, but never got time with them.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 80 The

Speaker 48 other all-time football guy you played with or played for, I know it wasn't your full career, but Pat Hill

Speaker 48 is my favorite. We actually have a gambling trophy named after Pat Hill.

Speaker 69 Do you really? Yes.

Speaker 48 I love that. I mean, his anytime, anyplace, anywhere, Fresno State teams where he'd be like, yeah, we'll go play Oregon, then we'll go play FSU, then we'll go play USC.
The best.

Speaker 10 So what was like the recruiting process?

Speaker 48 Obviously, he knew you because your brother, but like, was it a no-brainer that you were going to go play for Pat Hill?

Speaker 93 Yeah, like

Speaker 9 your dad offered you too, right?

Speaker 27 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 103 So he called my dad.

Speaker 93 You're all right.

Speaker 29 Okay.

Speaker 93 So I was getting recruited. So I was in Houston and I was getting recruited like

Speaker 93 starting in freshman football by everybody. You know, I was like, you know, I didn't see this in California.
So I'm getting recruited. I'm getting offered.
I'm starting to get, well, Pat calls my dad.

Speaker 93 He's like, hey, this was my junior year. He's like, hey, I'm checking on Dave.
How's Dave doing? You know, because Dave's not going to answer his phone, you know, how's Dave doing?

Speaker 93 And my dad's like, oh, Dave's doing great, but Derek's waiting for you to call him. And as you can tell, Pat was probably saying a few words.

Speaker 103 That little MF, I didn't know he wanted to come to us.

Speaker 93 And he offered me through my dad. My dad's like, hey, Fresno offered.
I was like, what? And I wanted to commit right away because the whole time, like, I just loved that city. I love the ramp.

Speaker 93 Like, I was like, I want to get my name up there next to Dave's.

Speaker 93 I'd just be like, what a cool thing that would be like just for our family. Right.
You know? And

Speaker 93 like, he was like, I called him the next day i was like i'm coming he's like okay good don't tell anybody because when we get good players to commit to us like usc offers like it i was like man screw that you know i told him and sure enough usc showed up the next day at my school like all this you sure oh yeah you sure you want to yeah no i i was like i'm going to fresno so it worked out he's an all-time football guy my favorite yeah oh my gosh what was he like just like day to day you'll love this like so this is like perfect pat hill he's he's aggressive yeah you get what what you see is what you get um But I'll never forget two stories.

Speaker 93 My freshman year, we kept dropping snaps because I was in the shotgun my whole senior year, right? So I got to learn how to play under center. Well, I drop a snap and he goes, that's it.
Get in here.

Speaker 93 And he gets down, grabs the ball with two hands like this. He's like, get in here.
And he's only wearing grays.

Speaker 93 I'm like, bro, it was the nastiest snap I ever took in my life. But I got the snap and then he think, and then right there, he's like, that solved all the problems.

Speaker 93 So we did that. And then like later in that practice, I remember it was my first practice.
And I go to take a snap in like nine on seven or half line run.

Speaker 93 And I say, said, hut, and they snapped it too soon. And I break my finger.
And it's like out like this. I put it back in.
He's like, time to learn how to be tough. Get back in there.

Speaker 93 So I, man, I went back in there, broken finger. I handed the ball off right-handed all day.
But like, that was Pat's way of like, like. pushing you to become a man.
Yeah.

Speaker 93 You know, and he did that for me.

Speaker 39 And it was great.

Speaker 48 Like those Fresno teams, like he, he basically was like, we're not afraid of anyone.

Speaker 48 We know we're not on the same level talent-wise, but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 38 We'll go play football.

Speaker 93 And it's beautiful. Yeah.
And it worked for him. Yeah.
You know, and hopefully we can bring that back someday. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah. And talk about spamming plays.
There was probably a lot of like Devontae's down there somewhere.

Speaker 93 Yes, absolutely. Especially with some of the people we were playing.

Speaker 99 Like, yeah.

Speaker 93 Like, we played one team and literally at the coin toss. This was when me and Tay were like at our peak.

Speaker 93 Before the game, we're throwing routes and the coaches are like, we have no chance.

Speaker 93 I threw a ball from like the back 40, like threw it 60 or 70 yards, hit the goalpost like they're like we have no chance come out to the coin tossing like they had a couple dbs and they're like bro please take it easy on us

Speaker 11 yo geez i believe it though oh yeah yeah you guys were electric and what was the uh the scouting process like for the nfl coming out of fresno did you have to answer questions about like why'd you go to a small school because i know they they like lean on you on that stuff like yeah they're trying to find any any bit of mental weakness that you have yeah 100 and like they

Speaker 93 they they picked on that a lot like you didn't play against good competition How are you going to play against the NFL?

Speaker 93 And then, like, you would have to be like, I mean, I did play against, you know, this guy's in the league that I played Bobby Wagner, you know, like all these guys.

Speaker 93 And, and so, like, as I understand, I didn't play in the SEC, but this was my choice to go to the school I love. And hopefully, that just bruised my loyalty and what I'll do for a team.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 Was Mark Davis involved in those conversations?

Speaker 93 I never talked to Mark. No, not before.
Not before. Not before.
Just Dennis Allen and Greg Olson.

Speaker 11 He seems like the coolest guy ever.

Speaker 93 Yeah.

Speaker 38 Have you ever gone to PF Changs with him?

Speaker 93 I never went to PF Changs, but he was there every day.

Speaker 90 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 48 We want it. We want, like, that's our dream is to go to PF Changs with Mark Davis.

Speaker 93 He would absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 102 He has to do that.

Speaker 90 I know. He's there, so it's easy for us.

Speaker 33 Right.

Speaker 35 We should just show up. Yeah.

Speaker 93 He drives a little van around. Drives a little van.
He's got a little mini coupe. He's got a lot of cars.
Yeah. Yeah.
But that guy, he's, I'll tell you this, man.

Speaker 93 Like, Mark was, Mark has been and will always be. He's been so good to me.
You know, he is like the biggest critic of his football team. But at the same time, nobody loves him more.
Right.

Speaker 93 Right. And so, yeah, sure, there's times where he's probably super frustrated with me.
You know, why didn't we do this?

Speaker 93 But he just wants to understand because he didn't come from that football

Speaker 93 coaching background.

Speaker 93 And so he just wants to understand the why.

Speaker 93 And so, you know, as he keeps surrounding himself, you know, Tom's there now in the ownership, and it looked like Seymour may join and all that.

Speaker 93 Like, as he keeps surrounding himself with like football people and all that, and understanding that the process and that,

Speaker 93 I think that they'll have more success. Yeah.

Speaker 48 And so. And he also is just swaggy as hell.

Speaker 93 I freaking love it.

Speaker 29 The white chips. All white.
All white.

Speaker 67 Such a good look. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 28 The haircut.

Speaker 27 I mean, you.

Speaker 39 It's a crazy haircut.

Speaker 48 He's the only one in the world who can pull it off.

Speaker 93 He told me, he's like, so when I signed my first contract with him, he's like, I'm going to buy you a car.

Speaker 99 I was like, all right, sick.

Speaker 93 Like, do I need to take it out of the deal? He's like, no, don't even worry about it. You know, Ferrari, got you.
I was like, sick, man, because we always talk about cars together.

Speaker 93 And so he's like, I'm coming over. So he comes over.
And he pulls out this car about this big. So Ferrari, he's like, got it for your kids.
I already gave you enough money.

Speaker 93 I was like, this dude's awesome.

Speaker 29 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 11 That's a good prank.

Speaker 58 Did he get his hair cut in the facility?

Speaker 93 Never saw that. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 48 I'd love to just be there to watch his hair.

Speaker 99 I would.

Speaker 11 He might cut his own hair. He could.

Speaker 93 I know that there's one person that does it and wherever that, like, he flies them in.

Speaker 93 I do know that. That's perfect.

Speaker 94 Yeah. That's perfect.

Speaker 76 Yeah. We need to get PF changed with Mark Davis.

Speaker 99 Absolutely.

Speaker 97 He'd be a great interview. Yeah.
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Speaker 48 Speaking of teammates, what was your favorite memory of Antonio Brown?

Speaker 49 That week? Was it a week?

Speaker 93 So, me and AB, I loved AB.

Speaker 93 You know, I loved AB. Even at the end, like, he was like, you know, Derek Carr, good dude, but couldn't handle AB.
And I was like, you know what? You're probably right.

Speaker 90 Like, wait, that also's like kind of telling on himself.

Speaker 91 Like, couldn't handle AB.

Speaker 72 It's like, well, dude, like, could you just tone it down?

Speaker 64 You're probably right.

Speaker 93 And I was waiting for him to say something crazy because I got like, you know, that's when I got mad at Pat McAfee, actually, because Pat was like, AB probably couldn't get the ball in practice and probably just wanted to leave.

Speaker 93 And I was like, bro, I got about 40 clips of I thought I was going to win MVP that year. Yeah.

Speaker 29 You know, getting him the ball. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 93 I was like, this. He's the hardest practicing player I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 93 And he practices hard. He competes at just a different level.
And, you know, hopefully he's a Hall of Famer. Like, as a player, he's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 55 Yeah, or insane.

Speaker 93 Yeah. Insane.
Yeah.

Speaker 93 And I love my time with him.

Speaker 93 I let him borrow my car, you know, like when he was in town, like, he came out, like, it's like a little four-seater Mercedes, like eight people come jumping out of it to come film.

Speaker 93 I was like, I'd freaking love this.

Speaker 90 And it was only, what was it, like, two weeks? We had it.

Speaker 29 Well, it.

Speaker 93 It depends. Like, into camp, I think it was two weeks.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 72 So we had him in the office.

Speaker 93 So we had a lot of time together throwing.

Speaker 93 but my, my man, there's so many freaking stories.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 48 I mean, the hard knocks is like, it was just an electric hard knocks.

Speaker 93 My favorite part of that is like, you want to see my feet?

Speaker 93 It's like, I would love to see your feet.

Speaker 101 I need you out at practice.

Speaker 93 I'll never forget. He comes out to practice the first time after all that.
He comes out in training camp. He runs a post-corner.

Speaker 93 And usually we run the post-corner and we want him flat at about, you know, 25, 30 yards. This man runs a post-corner and takes off to the back pylon.

Speaker 93 I'm like, oh, crap, I had to throw this thing like 70 yards. He just runs it down, catches it.
Ah, it goes like this to nobody. Yeah.

Speaker 29 I'm like, wow.

Speaker 93 He comes running back. He's like, let's go again.
He said, throw me a go. He goes over there, runs a go route.
I launch this go route. He freaking takes off, touchdown.
I'm like, I'm looking at Grew.

Speaker 93 I'm like, bro, I might throw for 6,000 yards.

Speaker 55 Him, Waller, all these kids.

Speaker 97 I'm like, oh, right.

Speaker 93 And then his trainer comes out. Yeah, Abe's done today.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 29 I was like, perfect. He shows it off.

Speaker 93 Just get him to Sunday.

Speaker 29 Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 11 You've got to bury the lead on that, though. Did you ever see his feet?

Speaker 93 I did see his feet.

Speaker 11 Were they messed up? They were messed up.

Speaker 102 Wait, how did he get Frostbite again?

Speaker 11 It was like in a cryo bath or something.

Speaker 33 I think I was.

Speaker 67 Maybe wet socks in a cryo.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 93 Which I did not know that was a thing.

Speaker 76 Yeah, I didn't either.

Speaker 93 I've never heard anybody tell me that, so I'm glad

Speaker 93 I didn't walk in there and do that.

Speaker 11 Yeah, there was the sock thing. There was the hot air balloon.

Speaker 93 The hot air balloon was awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 67 It was great.

Speaker 93 He had the helmet. He didn't like his helmet.
Didn't like his helmet.

Speaker 11 Tried to fight Mike Mayock. Yes.

Speaker 102 Okay.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 90 it was like the most impactful two weeks ever.

Speaker 39 He was really really heard from.

Speaker 93 I thoroughly, I'll say this, like I really enjoyed my time. Like you sit down one-on-one,

Speaker 93 you have a great conversation. Like he is awesome.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 93 But then he'll do something that's just hilarious.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 93 And everyone would like to meet like, Derek, can you go talk to him?

Speaker 63 I was like, bro, just let him be.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 11 If that's the biggest knock on your career that you couldn't handle AB, I think

Speaker 11 I like that that's the line where you're like, yeah, you know what? I'm going to agree with the media on this one.

Speaker 94 I was like, you know what?

Speaker 90 Couldn't get it done.

Speaker 93 You know what? You're probably, I failed you. Yeah.
I'm sorry. Yeah.
I did my best.

Speaker 11 You do seem like the best teammate ever. And we give you a lot of credit for the way things shook out in Las Vegas.

Speaker 11 I'll just say, because you won't say, you're too nice. Josh McDaniels was a snake.
And the way that whole thing went down

Speaker 11 was very snake-like. And you just put your best face forward.
And then you have an opportunity to go out and kind of select your next team.

Speaker 11 Saints are talking to you. The Jets are talking to you, right?

Speaker 11 So with the Jets thing, that was weird because you had to know they were also... they wanted Aaron Rodgers, right?

Speaker 99 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 93 And the thing which was different in that situation, like, you you know, Aaron's a nine billion time MVP, right? And all that kind of stuff. But you still have to trade for him.

Speaker 93 Whereas I'm free, you know, and you can still keep those picks. You can still,

Speaker 93 I'm not, I was not asking for as much money as

Speaker 93 whatever your market, whatever they say your market is. Like, I was like, I don't want to do that because I want, wherever I go, man, I just want to win.
And so use the money. I don't care.

Speaker 93 And so that situation, I remember sitting there with Sala. He's like, look, man, we'd love to have you.
Like, it's like up to you. You know, I was like, I would love to make that decision right now.

Speaker 93 Because Robert Sala is, he is like, I am like probably his biggest fan. Like, I absolutely, 10 out of 10 love him, would run through a wall for him, even if he's not my coach.

Speaker 93 I'd still like, if he was like, I need you to do this, yes, sir.

Speaker 99 Like, I would do it. Yeah.

Speaker 93 And, and so, like, that whole situation, that was the hardest thing because my brother knew Coach Sala, and he was like, he knew I loved New Orleans, but he's like, you're going to see Sala.

Speaker 93 He was like, you're probably going to stay. Yeah.
Like, he was like thinking I was going to sign because of Salah.

Speaker 93 And I remember going there and I was like, I promised myself I had to go through the process because I didn't want to sign and then think, well, what did that team think? Right. Or what could they do?

Speaker 93 And so that was hard. But yeah, I mean, it was a weird situation.
But at the same time, like trading for Aaron wasn't a guarantee for them at that time. Yeah.

Speaker 11 So you could have made the decision right then. It was in your court.
They were like, we want you to be the quarterback.

Speaker 93 I could have. Yeah.
I could have. But there was a...

Speaker 93 It just wasn't the right time for me because there was still like four or five teams that I had to hear from.

Speaker 93 And so it just, it ended up working out, you you know, for really for both of us.

Speaker 67 Yeah.

Speaker 11 So then you go to New Orleans. How long after you became a Saint did you actually start hating the Bucs?

Speaker 93 It didn't take me long because literally, like they talk about the Bucks and the Falcons.

Speaker 27 Obviously, like,

Speaker 99 I was like, well, I was like, what about the Panthers?

Speaker 93 You know, like,

Speaker 93 but like, like, are the Falcons and the Bucks, like in our building and like around town, like, there's like a real hatred. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 93 For some southern, really kind people, they really hate those teams.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 48 The Bucks, yeah, the Bucks, Saints games.

Speaker 39 I I feel like there's been a million fights, too. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 93 Especially Marshawn.

Speaker 99 I know.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 93 With Lat, Lat's competitive. So him and Mike, they'd be getting after him.
Always.

Speaker 11 You can pencil that in. Like, Mike Evans probably will get ejected in the second quarter of this game.

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 11 It's crazy because I know the fan, I think if you were to ask Saints fans, they would say they hate the Falcons. Like, that's the big one.

Speaker 11 But in terms of like on-the-field stuff that we've seen, it's been like Saints, Bucks. Yeah.
Just like

Speaker 11 World War II. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 93 I think there's some like deep personal stuff there, like where people are just like, I just hate that man. Yeah.

Speaker 93 like when we when we come in that week and you're like all right sean you got mike it's like

Speaker 51 he just blacks out like for five days you're like yeah oh he'll he'll he'll be ready on something yeah he's ready to go yeah what do you think uh the media gets wrong about derek carr oh i don't know yeah

Speaker 93 like what do you yeah like you know i there's there's definitely perception about every guy yeah but it's always good i always like to give people a chance to be like hey look like this is who i am this is what i'm about that people get wrong about me you know it's hard like i i know it sounds so silly but like i really have done my best especially the last few years like i just don't read or hear you know i try and block all that out but for me like i can tell you like about me like i'm i i absolutely worked my tail off i've tried from the beginning to be someone that kids could look at and be like he does things the right way yeah you know like he he grinds he's maxed out whatever God gave him, you know, and he's going to be a great teammate and he's going to play consistent, hopefully good football.

Speaker 93 And

Speaker 93 I think

Speaker 93 the way with the Raiders, how it ended and stuff like that,

Speaker 93 the one thing I can't get rid of is on Instagram, these people put these lists out of quarterback rankings. Yeah.

Speaker 102 And that stuff.

Speaker 11 Those people are the worst.

Speaker 94 No, we're not going to look at ours.

Speaker 93 I don't know what it was.

Speaker 48 We're back at 17 just to piss people off.

Speaker 35 We do them as trolls, and it's so much fun.

Speaker 93 And my brother actually does the same thing, too.

Speaker 93 He'll be like, yeah, Joe Montana's not one of the greatest. Even though, you know,

Speaker 93 like people just start.

Speaker 99 Yeah,

Speaker 48 people get mad about quarterbacks.

Speaker 13 100%.

Speaker 93 And so I think like, I think the disrespect of like,

Speaker 93 you know, some of the stuff I've been able to accomplish and like stuff I've put on film, like even the last half of last year, I was like, bro, I was, the last half of last year was probably my best football I've played, you know, and, you know, 2016 MVP season that people want to talk about in this season.

Speaker 93 That's like, bro, like, I feel like I'm going, getting better. Yeah.

Speaker 91 That's awesome.

Speaker 93 I got comfortable. I feel like I'm getting better.
I love my teammates.

Speaker 27 And I don't know.

Speaker 93 So I don't know what people are saying, but like, I just feel like I'm still that guy.

Speaker 99 Yeah. You know?

Speaker 93 Yeah. I'm still that guy.
Yeah. And, you know, none of it matters until you go prove it.
You know, but we won nine games and we didn't really even play good. Yeah.

Speaker 21 So you guys, it felt like it was always like one step forward, one step back, or two steps back kind of thing.

Speaker 70 That's how it felt.

Speaker 93 So hopefully, you know, we can just go out there and prove it. You know, that's what we want to do.
But I still feel like I'm at the, you know, at the best part of my game. Yeah.

Speaker 93 So hopefully I can go out there and prove that this year.

Speaker 11 I think we had you at 15, and I think we had Taysom Hill at 14.

Speaker 63 Taysom Hill.

Speaker 93 Taysom's the best football player I've ever played with.

Speaker 29 He really is.

Speaker 90 He's a jackknife. He does everything.

Speaker 93 He's unbroken.

Speaker 93 Swiss Army knife.

Speaker 97 Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 93 So Ronald Curry, who is the greatest athlete of all time, I'll say that, was our quarterback coach last year. RC was like, bro, when Taysom runs the football, he sees red.

Speaker 93 So I know that you're out there on the edge, probably wide open. He won't see you.
So we're playing in Carolina. I think it was Monday night football.
We're on the five-yard line.

Speaker 93 He runs a keeper right at me, and I see my corner take off because they're like, They always talk, don't touch anybody, yeah, don't jam a finger for no reason.

Speaker 93 So he takes off, and I slip, and I'm open in the end zone.

Speaker 93 And I look at Taysom's face, and for the nicest person in the world, I looked at him as the most violent, angry, and he just puts his head down between like three dudes and pretty much trucked them all.

Speaker 93 Yeah, and I was like, dude, that was like the most violent, impressive thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 93 Yeah, but he can do everything, he can do everything, throws, runs, catches, fullback, quarterback, tight end, receiver, slots, blocks, punts, personal protector. Yeah,

Speaker 93 I was like, I don't, just because of how stats work, I don't know how it'll work. But like, that man is a Hall of Fame football player.

Speaker 35 He's the true sense of a football player.

Speaker 10 He plays everything.

Speaker 93 He really is. I love it.

Speaker 11 He just looks at a linebacker, and then you just know he's going to run at that linebacker's face. That's it.
Like, I see a face, I'm going to run through the face. Yes.

Speaker 11 I feel like Sean Payton was in love with him. Oh, yes.
Because he had a weird man crush on him, right? Absolutely.

Speaker 99 Oh, gosh, yes.

Speaker 93 I got nervous when I came, especially like, I didn't know how we handled the cap situation in New Orleans. Somehow, they always figure it out.
Yeah, they're always in cap.

Speaker 93 But somehow, like, all of a sudden, we're signing Chase Young. I'm like, how did we just do that?

Speaker 93 But I was like nervous, like, oh, man, Sean's definitely going to try and trade for him or try and get him out. But thankfully, I'm like, dude, please don't let Taysom go.
Yeah.

Speaker 93 That's my guy. Like, don't let him go.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 Have you ever caught a touchdown?

Speaker 93 Not in the NFL. I was wide open, Darren McFadden.
We ran a wildcat play my rookie year, and I'm wide open down the side, and he was throwing it and it ended up getting tipped at the line of skirmish

Speaker 48 that would have been my one that would have been the one so hopefully the other football guy we got to talk about real quick because we're big fans of him is rich bisachia yes when he came into the locker room uh was it just the vibe because again that was the season that everything could have gone wrong went wrong for the raiders yeah but he like we wanted him to get the job he was he felt like such a football guy

Speaker 48 i would imagine it would felt like that when in the locker room like everyone's just rallying around this guy yeah man's man yeah Yeah.

Speaker 93 Man's man

Speaker 93 cared just as much as he cared about us winning and all that. He cared about you as being a husband and a dad.
And like

Speaker 93 two quick examples of him. Like he,

Speaker 93 the whole Cleveland game like gets postponed. We don't know if we're taking our flight.
Like we're about to get on the plane and they end up getting us off the plane.

Speaker 93 So they end up postponing the game like two days. He's like, guys, next two days, take them off.
Rest your bodies. And you get your mind right and prove to me that what I did was the right thing.

Speaker 93 We came out and we were like the the most aggressive I've ever seen our team.

Speaker 93 Like everyone did it because we didn't want to let him down for giving us those two days off, you know, which I was like, two days off before a game? Right. That's insane.
Yeah.

Speaker 93 You know, but crazy times. But he does that.
And then the other thing he's like, you know what you need to do?

Speaker 99 He's like, you need to write a letter.

Speaker 93 And he said, you need to start writing letters and, you know, during this busy time and let your wife know how you feel about her. And I was like.

Speaker 93 I was like, I thought I'd write a letter about like team, you know what? Yeah, right. Write a letter to your wife and just tell her thank you.

Speaker 93 And he said, sometimes I'll do it and I'll put it in the mailbox for my wife so she'll find it whenever she checks me.

Speaker 93 I'm like, this guy is the most well-rounded, all-around person coach I've ever been around.

Speaker 93 And so, like, he had the heart of our team. We all wanted him.

Speaker 93 We all are like, okay, we have everything set. Now, Derek, go figure out how to get Tay here.
Yeah. And we're good.
And we'll just build on what we have.

Speaker 93 And they ended up, obviously, making a different choice.

Speaker 102 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 54 They did. That was.

Speaker 38 Bad choice. Different vibes.

Speaker 11 For sure. They hired a snake.
For sure.

Speaker 48 Different vibes.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 11 So it must have been an interesting time for you guys.

Speaker 11 The craziest game, maybe in the NFL, in terms of the way it was set up, and what we almost saw happen was that game where you could have tied the Chargers, right? Yeah.

Speaker 54 Both teams could have gone to the playoffs.

Speaker 38 Good memory.

Speaker 11 And it goes into overtime, right? Was it 29-29? Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Was there ever any talk about maybe we just let

Speaker 11 the teams tie and everybody wins?

Speaker 93 So I think there probably was on the sideline, but in the huddle, like all of a sudden, like, so we, we had a third down and I hit Zay Jones on a bench route.

Speaker 93 I remember I stepped up, hit Zay, and so I'm like, oh, here we go. Like our mindset was like, go score.
This is a rival. Kick them out.

Speaker 93 You know, like our, like, we, like, there was, that was one of the most violent games I played, too. Yeah.
Like, it was, everyone's battling for their life. Yeah.

Speaker 99 Basically.

Speaker 93 And, and then we, we ran the ball. I think we ran it.
I'm like, wait, what's going on here? So I remember there was a timeout and I walked over there. I was like, let's end the freaking game.

Speaker 93 Send them home. Yeah.
I was like, even if we miss the kick, the worst thing that can happen is we get it blocked and they run it back. Obviously, I get that.

Speaker 93 But I was like, you got Carlson who never misses, especially with the game on the line. I was like, let's just get in there and let's run the football.

Speaker 93 So then Josh ends up making a great run and getting us in position. And then they were like, all right, run it down, take the timeout, we'll kick it.

Speaker 93 Because there was a thought of if we just let the clock run out.

Speaker 29 Yeah, we're all in. Yeah.

Speaker 93 And Pittsburgh would have hated that. Yep.

Speaker 48 I think a lot of fans would have hated that.

Speaker 81 You guys did the right thing. Like, it's played a win.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 103 Play to win. Yeah.

Speaker 93 And and and Rich was that way too. Yeah, so maybe they were talking about it, but at the end, he was like, No, beat him.
Yeah, let's go beat these guys.

Speaker 93 Yeah, especially he gets to send his kicker out there. Yeah, special teams, like, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 27 Good point, good point.

Speaker 93 You know, like, let's let's do it that way.

Speaker 48 Yeah, yeah, um, all right, well, Derek, this has been awesome. I have one last question:

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Speaker 48 This has been so much fun. We really appreciate you sitting down with us.

Speaker 48 How often, this is a tough question, how often have you watched the inadvertent whistle from the Bengals game?

Speaker 93 Oh, man, that was crazy.

Speaker 4 That's still,

Speaker 48 I watched it last night before this interview.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 48 And the whistle did come after Joe threw the ball, but it still is like the craziest thing because you can see everyone stop playing.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 43 And it's like, what the hell just happened?

Speaker 93 That one was hard because, like, it was, I mean, whoever won that game, just be honest, like, we felt like it was set up for that team to have a good chance to get the Super Bowl.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 93 Just the way the seatings were and all, like, where you had to play and all that kind of stuff. And the matchups, right? And so for us, we're like, I sit back there and watch it.

Speaker 93 I'm like, what could have been yeah

Speaker 93 and the one that I think the one that hurts the most is the last play to me is when I had to force the ball in there it's you know the last play of the game and I gotta jam this ball in there and it's like you know even even our coach is like I wish I wish we just got everybody in the end zone on a certain play so you could read it out and try and give someone a one-on-one but I think of those two plays like all the time when I'm working out.

Speaker 93 I'm like, I'm going to get back to that situation.

Speaker 93 It feels you.

Speaker 93 You got to find like, I'm,

Speaker 93 my caddy, who was my best friend, he's like, you're a psychopath. I'll make stories up.
Like, you talk about, like, I see Jordan do that. He's like, I make stories up.

Speaker 93 Like, yeah, they thought I couldn't do this. Or they thought, you know, I'm like, he's like, bro, you're freaking weird.

Speaker 93 Those are two, that's a game and that's a play. Like, and the whistle thing, you're like, I got to get back there.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 51 You know, you will.

Speaker 11 Like a vision board. Just think about that.

Speaker 11 Do you ever think about when you're working out, like, getting way, way stronger in case you have to make a tackle like

Speaker 11 Mac Jones did when they did that double lateral against you guys?

Speaker 93 How crazy was that? That was just nuts. So I remember sitting there and first of all,

Speaker 93 just being a Raider and Raider fans know this, so I'm not being mean about it. We have lost in some crazy ways

Speaker 93 in the last 10 years plus, right?

Speaker 93 And I remember when he broke the line of scrimmage and took off, I was like, there's no freaking way we're about to lose like this on a run where they're trying to run the clock out.

Speaker 93 He threw that ball back in the air, which I've never seen before. And Chandler caught it.

Speaker 93 And I was like, there's no way Mac tackles him.

Speaker 93 Chandler's arms are like from here to there. Not a fair fight.
And when he broke that tackle, it was the craziest thing ever.

Speaker 93 But what I have learned is I tried to hit Mike Mitchell in Pittsburgh one time. There was a fumble, which was a blown whistle.
I didn't hear the whistle because it was so loud.

Speaker 93 And he takes off, I take off, and I hit him as hard as I could, which probably looked just normal. Yeah.
And my whole shoulder went numb. I couldn't move it.

Speaker 93 And my coach said, if you ever do that again, I just won't play you.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 94 And I was like, okay.

Speaker 93 So now I let people get past me and I just grab them. Yeah.

Speaker 27 There you go.

Speaker 97 Yeah, I'll take a horse call.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 102 The backpack on him.

Speaker 93 Just let him go by and then jump on. I threw a pig against Kansas City.
I let Breland get in front of me and then I went and

Speaker 93 I could chase him and then I grabbed him and throw him.

Speaker 86 You just got to show a little bit of effort for the tape.

Speaker 48 You don't have to make the tackle.

Speaker 90 Yeah, you just got to try.

Speaker 21 Yeah, you got to be like, all right, there he is running down the field.

Speaker 38 That's fine.

Speaker 93 I had one last year. I threw a pig against the Rams.

Speaker 93 It's a terrible throw, but I didn't see the guy throw it. And I'm standing there and I'm like, please cut back.
And he runs right at me. I was like, crap.

Speaker 93 And then finally he cut back. I just jumped on the tackle to try and get a stat.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 28 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 86 Well, Derek, thank you so much, man.

Speaker 48 We appreciate it. This has been a lot of fun.
Tell your brother to maybe unblock us.

Speaker 28 You don't unblock me. I don't know.

Speaker 91 But tell your brother.

Speaker 93 You got a system. I'm not going to because I like our system.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 17 But your brother could unblock us, and we'll probably get blocked again like two seconds later, but that's fine.

Speaker 55 That's part of the game.

Speaker 67 Yeah, it's all love.

Speaker 90 It's cat and mouse.

Speaker 78 I appreciate you guys for real.

Speaker 93 Yeah, good luck.

Speaker 29 Thanks so much. Thank you.
Yep.

Speaker 102 Thanks. Hope you win.
Yep.

Speaker 27 Thank you.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, Shane Bacon.

Speaker 48 You can listen to him on Get a Grip and ping proving grounds.

Speaker 86 He's got a book, The Golfer Zoo, great children's book.

Speaker 19 He is a golf guy through and through, and we wanted to do an open championship preview with Shane. So, Shane, let's start with this.

Speaker 77 Let's start with a, I know you always have great stories and backgrounds, but Royal Troon, give us the background of Royal Troon, the golf course, and what we should expect when we're watching this weekend early mornings, which I actually love, at the Open Championship.

Speaker 101 Yeah, so

Speaker 101 I went over to Scotland after college, Big Cat, and actually caddied at St. Andrews for a summer.
That was like my job out of college. And I went and played Royal Trune, didn't know much about it.

Speaker 101 And I walked away and said to myself, my dad was there with me. And I said, this is my favorite Lynx course that I've played to this point.
So I love it. This is the 10th Open Championship.

Speaker 101 It's hosted first since 2016. Had both some awesome winners and some random winners.
Todd Hamilton, of course, beating Ernie L's there back in the day. I think that was in 2004.

Speaker 101 But this is a pretty demanding. driving golf course for an open.
You know, you go to places like St. Andrews and you can kind of hit it all over the place, even with fescue up.

Speaker 101 This is a place where if you start missing fairways, you can find yourself in the gorse.

Speaker 101 I mean, some of these corridors are really, really tight, and they've done a good job of kind of tightening those up for this open championship. So I love it.

Speaker 101 It's you see a lot of water when you play this golf course, probably as much ocean as you'll see play in any of the open rota golf courses.

Speaker 101 And like I said, I mean, I get obsessed when they return to Royal Trune just because it's one of my favorite personal golf courses over there.

Speaker 29 So, with the water,

Speaker 22 if this golf course is windy any day, is it become almost unplayable?

Speaker 66 Because I feel like that happens sometimes at the open championship where if the wind is really whipping, it's like these guys got no chance.

Speaker 101 I don't think I'd go as far as to say unplayable. And the word I'm hearing from people over there is that this is a little bit of a greener golf course than some of the ones in the area.

Speaker 101 The RNA kind of making sure that with some of the weather they're predicting later in the week that the balls aren't going to roll off the greens.

Speaker 101 If you guys remember 2015, Brooks Kepka, when he was not Brooks Kepka, basically told the RNA, I'm not going to keep playing at St. Andrews because it was so windy.

Speaker 101 And this was like when he was just the European tour golfer, not, you know, kind of the stud that he is now.

Speaker 101 That, I think, is the fear for the RNA: is that if it gets super windy and there's that much exposed greens, like you see at St.

Speaker 101 Andrews and you see at Troon, then maybe they have to pull people off the golf course.

Speaker 101 So I think that's part of the reason you're going to see a little bit of a greener Royal Troon than maybe you'd expect, or even some of the golf courses in the area.

Speaker 54 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 11 So the wind is going to be the real X Factor because I feel like with the U.S. Open, we root for the course.
It's our favorite thing to do.

Speaker 11 With the British Open, it's almost like, or excuse me, the Open Championship. Please.
I apologize.

Speaker 11 You root for the weather sometimes. You root for the conditions.

Speaker 101 Yeah, Mother Nature is like the top pick at this one. I think you could also root for the course, PFT.
I mean, I think this is a place where they've condensed the golf courses on the Rota over there.

Speaker 101 So you only see six or seven courses, really. So I think it's a chance to kind of root for your all-star team, right? I mean, you get Royal Truon, you get St.
Andrews.

Speaker 101 they, you know, occasionally will pop over to Ireland, but for the most part, there's six or seven places that we know and we love, so you can root for both Mother Nature and the golf course.

Speaker 102 Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 11 So, um, yeah, it's going to be very interesting. We've already got some drama to start the week off.
Tiger and uh, and Monty are going at it, Colin Montgomery. What did Montgomery say?

Speaker 11 He said, like, maybe it's time for Tiger to retire, talking about his recent play, and then Tiger fired back and said, well, they let you play here for the rest of your life if you win.

Speaker 101 Yeah,

Speaker 101 Montgomery was basically saying, this is not the Tiger Woods that I grew up watching, that I grew up competing against, the fiery competitor, I think is the terminology he used about Tiger.

Speaker 101 And he was basically saying, this isn't, you know, this is Roger Federer playing tennis at the age of 50, right? And Tiger fired back and said, I get a chance to play the open until I'm 60 years old.

Speaker 101 That's basically the cutoff at the open. Colin Montgomery does not get so.
Colin Montgomery never won a men's major championship, arguably the greatest player in golf history not to win a men's major.

Speaker 101 So yeah, Tiger firing back. Listen, Tiger's never going going to dig deep into who you are, but he's going to lay lines out like that.

Speaker 101 Like, you remember the Stephen Ames thing, his answer about the talk from Ames back in the match play days. He just simply said nine and eight is what you, what he beat him at.

Speaker 101 I think this is kind of typical Tiger in terms of the response. I'll say this.
I think it's good for Tiger. I think somebody taking a shot at this guy.

Speaker 101 You know, you guys follow golf, you know, around the major championships. I know you guys follow Tiger Woods.
When's the last time somebody took a shot at Tiger? It rarely happens, if ever.

Speaker 101 So if he needs bulletin board material or some reason to get a little bit more fired up and go out there and play well, maybe this helps him this week.

Speaker 85 You maybe, maybe you'll even make the cut.

Speaker 27 That's right.

Speaker 13 I mean, more bulletin board.

Speaker 101 He hasn't shot around in the 60s since Riviera last year, so that's about 18 months ago. So, yeah, anything that could maybe help him go out there and play a decent round of golf would be helpful.

Speaker 96 Okay, so the other story: Rory, coming off of maybe the worst loss you could have as a golfer,

Speaker 86 he peeled out of the driveway after the

Speaker 11 he almost hit several people. Yeah,

Speaker 66 he didn't talk to the media.

Speaker 17 He released a statement afterwards, so he's talking to the media this week.

Speaker 66 I saw that also there was a funny story that Tiger texted him two days after, gave him a couple days, but Rory had changed his number, so he ghosted Tiger.

Speaker 4 But where do you think Rory is at mentally?

Speaker 57 Can he win this?

Speaker 66 He feels like the guy, especially in the last few years, where he has been so close so many times and played such great golf, and he has nothing to show for it.

Speaker 101 I think he can absolutely win in any major championship. I think it's so easy for golf people to go, I like Rory this week.
Well, you like Rory at every major.

Speaker 101 He finishes in the top 10 every single time. There's a big difference, obviously, in finishing in the top 10 and winning.
I think for Rory, he can look back at 2011. You know,

Speaker 101 that complete, you know, like second nine at Augusta National, you know, basically debacle from Rory McElroy. He started hitting balls left and making huge numbers and loses the Masters.

Speaker 101 He won the next major championship after that by eight shots. And that has been something that Rory has been great throughout his career is that kind of bounce back ability.

Speaker 101 So in that regard, yes, I think it could be a good week for Rory. I don't see this being a great place for him.

Speaker 101 I just, I feel like the unpredictability of Link's golf, the weather expected with the high winds. I'll give you guys this.
I know you guys are an NFL podcast for the most part.

Speaker 101 The Masters is a Super Bowl. The PGA championship is opening week at the NFL.
Everybody gets excited, but it's not the most important part of the season. I feel like the U.S.

Speaker 101 Open's kind of divisional championship weekend where everybody that makes it to that point has a chance to win, but it's going to be very, very tough to do so. The Open is a snow game.

Speaker 101 There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game. Maybe you can throw the ball.
Maybe you've got to run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all.

Speaker 101 That's what I look at here. And you've got to go back to 2010 with Rory.

Speaker 101 The opening round of St. Andrews, he shoots 63 and should have shot 62.
The weather picks up. The wind starts blowing.
He shoots 80 the second round.

Speaker 101 There's just so much unpredictability going into this week and what we should expect from Rory. He played fine last week.

Speaker 101 I just don't see him as a winner at Royal Troon, considering the golf course and kind of the weather and what we expect to see there.

Speaker 66 I love that you just mansplained golf to us in football terms, but that was the perfect analogy.

Speaker 41 I get it now.

Speaker 11 Yeah, like you don't know.

Speaker 86 You don't know if there's so much.

Speaker 57 Yeah, if there's so much snow that it's going to be really good for the offense, or there's just a little bit of snow, so it's just going to be a mucky game altogether.

Speaker 13 I like that.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it was an aha moment for me. I was like, oh, that, oh, shit, that makes sense.

Speaker 11 So if we're to pull on that thread a little bit and extrapolate it, LaShawn McCoy was like the greatest running back ever, the greatest snow game play ever.

Speaker 11 Who is the LaShawn McCoy of golf? Who can play the best in the worst conditions?

Speaker 101 I think Brooks would be my answer to this. I feel like Brooks is the kind of guy that if it's windy, if it's nasty, if it's fine, obviously he's played well on golf courses with no wind at all.

Speaker 101 I feel like Brooks is one of those guys, kind of like Jack Nicholas back in the day, or Jack, sorry, Jack Nick Loss, right? How do you say that?

Speaker 101 Nick Klaus, my bad, sorry, the famous golfer. But, you know, you think back to the way Jack kind of approached major championships.
You said, anybody that was a complaint of the U.S.

Speaker 101 Open, I knew I could beat. I feel like Brooks is very similar in that vein where he goes into these weeks going, I hope it blows.
I hope it's nasty. And if it's not, that's fine too.

Speaker 101 I can still shoot 65. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Can you do a comparison for Bryson DeChabo? What NFL player would he be?

Speaker 101 I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers. I mean, maybe that's the comp for Bryson where you either love him or you don't like him at all.

Speaker 101 I mean, I know Big Cat has had an interesting relationship with Aaron over the years. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, you know, the one, the one Super Bowl, right?

Speaker 101 And I mean, if that's his legacy, that'll be a very interesting thing to follow up. I mean, for Bryson, I think the biggest difference for me is Bryson's ability to play these types of golf courses.

Speaker 101 You think about the way he played Piners. He's not winning at Piners three years ago, but he's changed his game and he's kind of opened his mind up to playing different types of golf when it asked.

Speaker 101 The one thing about this golf course is this is the most demanding driving golf course that you'll see all year long in terms of major championship golf.

Speaker 101 And Bryson can get a bit squirrely with the driver. We know he hits it forever.
He doesn't always hit a ton of fairways. So that'll be kind of the thing I pay attention to.

Speaker 101 Is Bryson willing to hit the driving iron or the long iron off a lot of these tees like so many of the other players? Or is he going to try to bang driver like we saw at Pine Arse all over the place?

Speaker 1 So this golf course,

Speaker 14 correct me if I'm wrong, but like I've been reading about like who to bet on and who has a good chance.

Speaker 57 And the name Colin Morakawa comes up a lot because this golf course doesn't penalize guys who can't hit it a million miles you know down the down the course so that like speaking about a Rory like he his his biggest strength is a little bit neutralized is that fair to say and is it is it a golf course that guys who don't hit it the distance that Rory or Bryson hit it are going to have just as good of a chance to win Yeah, the PJA championship and the U.S.

Speaker 101 Open have kind of become, and even, I mean, even Augustin Ashley, for that matter. I mean, you want to be able to hit the ball as far as humanly possible.
That gives you the best edge.

Speaker 101 I got a great Justin Ray stat for you on that big cat. Justin Ray on Twitter, who has all the great stats and does an amazing job.

Speaker 101 He said, since 2014, 55% of the Masters winners, PGA winners, and U.S. Open winners have ranked in the top 10 that week in driving distance.
None of the last eight open champion winners have done so.

Speaker 101 To your point, you don't have to bang the golf ball to do well here. You look at Brian Harmon a year ago, not a long hitter of the golf ball.

Speaker 101 He contends this remains the random major championship, right?

Speaker 101 this is the one where you can be older you don't have to be the young dude you don't have to be the young stud you could be an older player we've seen a lot of randomness across the board over the last 20 years in terms of winners at open championships so yeah i think for colin moricawa you heard him talk after the masters you know he goes i'm hitting five iron when scotty scheffler's hitting eight iron that's not so much the case at an open he can get around in similar fashion to somebody like scotty orory it's a thinking man's tournament yeah absolutely i think it's a thinking man's tournament i think it's an old guy's tournament as well i think this is the place where you could still see someone in their 40s or maybe even in their 50s compete, content, and potentially win.

Speaker 11 What about Scotty Schuffler? He's mentally kind of like a 55-year-old.

Speaker 101 He kind of looks like a 55-year-old as well.

Speaker 27 He does.

Speaker 101 I mean, I love Scotty everywhere. This is the one major he hadn't quite figured out yet.
But I'll say this about Scotty. He's had an unbelievable year.
We talk about his wins.

Speaker 101 Obviously, he wins the second time at Augusta National.

Speaker 101 If he goes through this season like he did last year without another of the majors, I think it'll be slightly glaring because when you talk about Scotty, you're talking about one of the greatest of this generation, if not the greatest of this generation.

Speaker 101 He's only, quote unquote, only won the Masters, right? So for him to go through these U.S.

Speaker 101 Opens and PGAs and be close and not win, I think this is as important a week as it is to Rory McElroy as it is for Scotty Scheffler in that regard.

Speaker 101 Because if he doesn't win this, do we look at the season as a great year where he only won one major championship?

Speaker 101 If he wins this, you're talking about one of the great seasons we've seen over the last 25 years, one of the great seasons over the last 40 years in the non-Tiger division.

Speaker 11 Yeah, and what about our good, our dear friend Max Homa? Is this a tournament that can shape up for Max's game?

Speaker 11 Tell us that Max has a chance.

Speaker 101 Max absolutely has a chance at an open.

Speaker 101 I just feel like with the way he can drive the golf ball, he hadn't played great golf as of late, but I feel like Max is one of those guys that, like I said about Brooks, he's one of those dudes that can kind of lean into nasty conditions.

Speaker 101 Wins are up. I'm not going to let it affect me like some of the other guys that are maybe weaker-minded out on the tour.

Speaker 11 Okay, I like that a lot. I like that very much.
And And yeah, I think, listen, we're all rooting for Max here.

Speaker 11 It feels like the last couple tournaments, he hasn't been at the top of his game. Is that fair to say?

Speaker 101 Yeah, I think over the last, I think he'd be the first to say over the last five, six months, really since the Masters, he hadn't played his greatest golf.

Speaker 101 He didn't play great at the Scottish last week. But the open last year was really important for Max.

Speaker 101 So maybe he'll get some good vibes from the way he played at the open last year and go out there and put together something like we saw at Augusta.

Speaker 43 Okay, so what about long shots or even

Speaker 57 any picks?

Speaker 86 Because I will probably bet that.

Speaker 101 I got so many for you. By the way, Bitcoin, I wanted to say something.
I wanted to ask you this question because we were talking about snow games earlier.

Speaker 101 I think I've never won a bet betting on the weather, like betting the under in snow games or rating games. How are you in terms of looking at the forecast and then making your bet on that?

Speaker 87 Snow games are my favorite because everyone

Speaker 87 thinks, oh, this is going to be an under.

Speaker 87 And they're snow versus for a reason because it's so hard for the defense to get off and to be able to, like, when you, when the offense knows where they're going and the defense is trying to figure it out and they're sliding everywhere.

Speaker 87 That LaShawn McCoy game, that had like a million points.

Speaker 40 So, yeah, whenever there's a snow game, wait till the last minute and then hit the over because it always comes down.

Speaker 87 Everyone bets the under, and then you just bet the over right before kickoff, and it's usually a good bet.

Speaker 88 It's got to be a good, it's got to be like a good amount of snow, though.

Speaker 6 It can't be just like a light dusting.

Speaker 16 It has to be real snow.

Speaker 101 Like, you need to be using the plow, not the shovel.

Speaker 27 Yeah, like that's kind of the deal. I like that.
I like that.

Speaker 101 All right.

Speaker 101 I got some names that I like this week, and then I got a couple sleepers for you guys. I like Shane Lowry this week, top 20 in his last two major championships.
Been very, very consistent this year.

Speaker 101 Seems to get good vibes. And also, he's 16th on tour this season in driving accuracy.
So hits a whole bunch of fairways, already won an open championship. I like Corey Connors this week a little bit.

Speaker 101 He's played incredibly consistent golf. I think he's made 26 straight cuts.
Just feels like one of those guys. The open championship doesn't demand a ton when you get on the greens.

Speaker 101 That's the the part of Corey Connor's game that maybe he isn't as good as maybe a Scottie Scheffler or Rory McElroy, but he is an incredible ball striker. So I like Corey.

Speaker 101 I like Aaron Rai a lot, the 29-year-old Englishman. This is just his seventh major championship.
He's played incredible golf as of late.

Speaker 101 I think he's finished in the top seven in his last three starts, and he's played well in the majors this year. So those are my sleepers.
I got my pick.

Speaker 101 Do you want the guy I think is going to actually win? this thing?

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 101 I'm going to Adam Scott. He played well last week, so it's not as kind of like shocking of a pick.
He's 44 years old, finished in the top 10, hasn't finished in the top 10 in a major since 2019.

Speaker 101 But I feel like he's one of those guys. It's Adam Scott and Sergio Garcia that shouldn't end their career with one major title.
And so I feel like Adam is playing well.

Speaker 101 He's talked a lot this year about prepping his game around the major championships. Still feels like he has a chance to win one.
And you go back to 2012.

Speaker 101 He came so close, made Bogey on his last four holes to lose to Ernie Ells by one. I think Adam's going to be a factor this week.

Speaker 11 Okay, and you used a word earlier in this interview. I know what it means, but I don't think Big Cat does.
So if you could explain it to Big Cat, Gorse. Yeah.

Speaker 38 Yeah, I'm an idiot. I have no idea what it is.

Speaker 72 I know exactly what it is.

Speaker 38 I thought it was a type of duck.

Speaker 11 I know exactly what it is, but I just don't want to say it. So I was hoping that you would tell him.
Please tell me.

Speaker 101 Some would say it's a horse that kind of hangs out around a Royal Troon, but it's the big green bushes with the stickers inside. You can't go in there.

Speaker 101 You can't search for a golf ball, but it is nasty, gnarly. And if you hit it in there, it's basically like you hit a ball out of bounds.
So that's the no zone. And when I was caddying at St.

Speaker 101 Andrews, if a player hit it in there and asked me to look for it, I would just kind of like walk slowly away from the player until I couldn't hear him.

Speaker 11 So if it goes into the gorse, there's a tournament official that comes out and says you can't even look for your ball in here.

Speaker 101 I mean, you can look for it, but like legitimately, the needles, and somebody from the UK is probably going to correct me on this, but I've heard, and this might be like the caddy thing.

Speaker 101 We used to do this in Scottsdale a lot when people come out to play like True.

Speaker 101 I worked at True North, and we'd always tell them it was rattlesnake season just simply to keep them going, even if it wasn't rattlesnake season, so they wouldn't go out and spend 20 minutes searching for a golf ball.

Speaker 101 I heard that there are bacteria on the end of like the sticky parts of gorse bushes. So not only do you get pricked and it hurts, but it also gets infected quickly.

Speaker 101 Again, that might just be a catty tale, but that was what I was told back when I went over and looped it.

Speaker 27 I like that. I like that.

Speaker 28 Don't touch that.

Speaker 55 Yeah, they should pull up like sick.

Speaker 11 A blue Asian cat if you get it.

Speaker 101 It's what we tell our children that's basically a lie all the time, right? It's like it's like the children's stuff.

Speaker 1 Oh, I had that happen to me.

Speaker 66 We were on vacation July 4th week, and my kids picked some berries, and I was like, do not eat those berries. And then my wife was like, no, they can eat those.

Speaker 13 Those are like blueberries.

Speaker 76 And I was like, oh, shit.

Speaker 11 But then you have to explain for every berry now.

Speaker 92 Yeah, I was like, no, no, don't.

Speaker 28 Yeah. Don't eat random berries.

Speaker 11 Just say the gorse is hot lava. You can't touch it.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 101 Just say, just say no to everything your children's ask, and then you can go back from there is what I've basically learned in my young run of being a parent. Yes.

Speaker 36 All right.

Speaker 87 I got one last question.

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Speaker 96 How are the pop bunkers?

Speaker 86 That's my favorite part of the open championship.

Speaker 87 What would you rank the pot bunkers at Royal Troon versus some of the other courses they play the open championship at?

Speaker 101 I mean, some of the best pop bunkers. Great pop bunkers all across the fairway, around the holes.
There's a hole you're going to see a lot this week called the postage stamp.

Speaker 101 Very, very short part three. I think it's the shortest part three they play on the open road, 123 yards, tiny green, ton of pot bunkers, big cats.

Speaker 101 So if you don't hit your wedge on the green, you're going to be kind of scrambling to make to make four.

Speaker 101 By the way, my dad, only time he played Rule of True, and made Birdie on the postage stamp, and he basically wanted to walk off the golf course. So shout out to Monty B on the great shot into there.

Speaker 28 Should have. That's awesome.

Speaker 11 Yeah, that's a big moment.

Speaker 94 Walk off after eight.

Speaker 72 Yeah.

Speaker 57 Wait, Monty B, is Bacon not your stage name?

Speaker 101 No, real name. Real name.

Speaker 63 Wow.

Speaker 29 So your dad's like a porn star name.

Speaker 11 Your dad's name is Montgomery Bacon.

Speaker 101 It wasn't Montgomery. It's just Monty.
By the way, Monty Bruce Bacon. So very old school in terms of the one-two punches there.

Speaker 29 MBB.

Speaker 101 Bacon's the way to go. I mean, it's, it's, you know, Big Cat's your name, right? That's the one.

Speaker 57 Yeah, yeah, that's my given name.

Speaker 39 That's, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 What a name. I mean, that's awesome.

Speaker 11 Powerful name.

Speaker 1 Was it one of those names that people made fun of when you were like a little kid?

Speaker 35 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 But then you realize, like, this rocks.

Speaker 45 Yeah.

Speaker 24 Because no one's going to forget your name.

Speaker 101 When you're five to 13, it stunk. And then I've kind of post-13, people thought it was pretty cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 102 That is a very cool name.

Speaker 11 Wake up with your friends at like 7 a.m., hit a joint, it's wake and bacon time. Yeah.

Speaker 27 You ever do that?

Speaker 101 I mean, I may have done that before.

Speaker 98 How hard is it, Podcast?

Speaker 87 Yeah, how hard is it not to do like every show that you've ever done trying to work bacon into the name?

Speaker 101 Well, I mean, I get a lot of people. You know, the weirdest thing question I get, Big Cat, on a kind of a weekly basis is if you give somebody your name, they ask you how to spell it.

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 29 And I'll always say, how do you not spell it?

Speaker 101 Like, there's only one way to spell bacon right. Yeah.
But yeah, I don't don't know if I always squeeze it in interviews, but I might start.

Speaker 101 I mean, I think that might, could that propel me to another planet, you think?

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Bacon and fried eggs, the golf podcast.

Speaker 89 Eggs and bacon. Yeah.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I think, I think there's something to work with here. So wait, going back to the postage stamp, why is it called the postage stamp?

Speaker 101 I think because it's the green's so small. These are the smallest greens on the open rota, and the postage stamp is tiny, tiny, tiny.
So again, like it's a wedge.

Speaker 101 I mean, it's kind of one of those hit a good shot or you're going to make four. And we've seen guys make holes in one there.

Speaker 101 We've seen great shots, but you can make a huge number on it if you don't hit a great shot. And the wind on Thursday, it's supposed to be very windy on Thursday.

Speaker 101 The wind's kind of coming in from a different direction. So I think it's going to be in the face on the post-it stamp.
So you might see eight iron, seven iron from these players from 120.

Speaker 54 Oh, wow. Interesting.

Speaker 11 So, one last question for you. There's a Swedish golfer, Aberg, and he seems to be always kind of hovering around the top of the leaderboard, at least recently at some of the majors.

Speaker 11 From everybody that I've talked to, they say that physically he's one of the best golfers in the world, Barton. Total stud, yep.

Speaker 11 So is this a course that sets up perfectly for his game, or is this one where it's like, okay, he needs more experience, the physical tools don't necessarily translate over?

Speaker 101 I mean, it would be to me, and I don't want to like get above my skis here with Ludvig because he is so young and he hadn't played a lot of these things, but it would kind of be like asking, does this basketball court work for Steph Curry, like shooting-wise?

Speaker 101 I mean, all of these, the dude hits it a mile. He hits it incredibly straight.
He's an awesome iron player. Really, the only thing he's got to figure out is how to kind of close these things out.

Speaker 101 He struggled in final rounds, but absolutely, like this golf course, he could play well. He's going to hit driver a lot when a lot of guys won't because he hits it so straight.

Speaker 101 I feel like he's one of those dudes that is going to play well at Open, play well at Augusta, play well at U.S. Opens.
Like he's kind of the next it dude, in my opinion.

Speaker 27 Okay. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 28 Love it. Well, Shane, thank you so much.

Speaker 57 The finale for the major championships is always kind of bittersweet.

Speaker 13 Feels like I know there's more golf to play, but it does feel like this is kind of of the end.

Speaker 57 But we're excited to watch, and we appreciate all your insight.

Speaker 101 260 days come Sunday night until the next men's major round.

Speaker 27 That's the first round of the Master.

Speaker 101 Yes,

Speaker 101 it is a long, long break. Thanks, boys.
Always appreciate the time. All right.

Speaker 28 Thanks, Shane.

Speaker 90 Okay, we'll wrap up with Guys on Chicks.

Speaker 13 Great interview with Derek Carr. Great guy.

Speaker 10 We're Derek Carr fans now.

Speaker 11 Great guy.

Speaker 11 It's like the Kirk Cousins interview. Yeah.
He's such a nice guy that you can't help but root for him.

Speaker 61 And he addressed the mascara allegations.

Speaker 11 He did, which is good to hear. Yeah.
All right, guys on checks.

Speaker 83 Hank.

Speaker 78 My husband claims that to be considered athletic, you have to be able to play multiple team sports.

Speaker 78 In his mind, the best athletes of all time are people like Danny Ainge and Deion Sanders because they excel in multiple sports.

Speaker 78 According to his logic, people like Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt are not necessarily athletic unless they can play multiple sports.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Michael Phelps is water merchant.

Speaker 93 I disagree.

Speaker 78 This argument started after he claimed that even though I was a nationally ranked figure skater, I'm not athletic because I didn't play sports like soccer, lagros, et cetera.

Speaker 78 Should he be admitted to a mental hospital or am I in the wrong here?

Speaker 11 I think he has a fair point, which is you can specialize in certain things, but to get to the top of the figure skater, you have to be athletic to be a fucking figure skater.

Speaker 41 His idea is that Michael Phelps is not athletic.

Speaker 78 I think he's just trying to,

Speaker 78 you know,

Speaker 78 put his put his wife down, I guess.

Speaker 11 Yeah, also saying Usain Bolt is an athletic is a wilder take, I think, than saying Michael Phillips isn't.

Speaker 20 The Olympics are just basically for not ball sports.

Speaker 58 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Eustaine Bolt is the fastest human being that's ever existed on planet Earth.

Speaker 10 He's the epitome athletic.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 43 And so is Michael Phelps.

Speaker 11 Michael Phelps, but take away the water. What do you got?

Speaker 71 True.

Speaker 47 Probably a guy who would have been like an awesome rower.

Speaker 54 Tight end. I'll get some water.

Speaker 102 Awesome water. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Michael Phelps, bum. Yeah.
Just some random pothead. Happened to find a pool when he was young.

Speaker 27 Sucks.

Speaker 55 Come on the pod, Michael. I thought it was a gravity bong.

Speaker 51 Yeah.

Speaker 78 My girlfriend has paid for a wedding venue for a wedding on May 31st and has started buying everything for it. The kicker is we just went ring shopping and I haven't proposed yet.

Speaker 78 Do you think this is strange?

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Wait, so you're engaged, but not engaged. She got you engaged by renting a

Speaker 35 but those things fill up.

Speaker 17 So she has she acted fast.

Speaker 4 But yeah, that's

Speaker 4 I'd be worried.

Speaker 29 I'd be a little worried.

Speaker 19 That feels also like after you get married, she's gonna like

Speaker 35 she's going to name your, your children before you're pregnant, kind of thing.

Speaker 11 Oh, she's already got weird. Yeah.

Speaker 29 That is a

Speaker 78 weird thing to do.

Speaker 11 There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature with your boyfriend's last name. Yeah.

Speaker 41 My third child went

Speaker 17 almost 72 hours without a name.

Speaker 83 We were just like, wait, I don't know.

Speaker 11 Male.

Speaker 55 Because it was like, male,

Speaker 2 it's like, all right, we'll figure it out.

Speaker 9 It's like, all right, we toss it.

Speaker 66 We were tossing around different names. And then finally, when we had to leave the hospital, they're like, you need a name to leave the hospital.

Speaker 65 So.

Speaker 11 I'm curious, just from her perspective,

Speaker 11 do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged?

Speaker 89 Yeah, you got to be.

Speaker 78 This has got to be the girl that's like, all her friends are already married. Yeah.

Speaker 102 Like, she's off.

Speaker 35 Yeah, she's trying to, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, she's, she's already got the, she's already probably got a house picked out, where the baby room's going to be, everything.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 54 She's got her, she got her vision board.

Speaker 11 You got to propose to him, and he just hasn't said yes yet. Yeah.

Speaker 78 All right, last one.

Speaker 79 We don't want you to break up.

Speaker 11 At what point do you start thinking to yourself, like,

Speaker 11 he hasn't asked me yet?

Speaker 56 Oh, she's definitely.

Speaker 55 Also, who goes ring shopping? Actually, no, baby.

Speaker 55 Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?

Speaker 1 No, usually it's like best friend.

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 78 We just went ring shopping.

Speaker 43 But also, PFT, I think she...

Speaker 78 I thought that's the whole point.

Speaker 76 She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked.

Speaker 41 Like, we're doing this no matter what, whether you ask or not.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 23 We're getting married.

Speaker 11 There's going to be some tough questions you'll have to answer come Thanksgiving. Yes.
Regardless of whose house you go to.

Speaker 30 Yes. All right, last one.
My boyfriend plays in Beerly Cockey.

Speaker 78 When we first started dating, I went to everyone, but lately with life stuff, I haven't gone much. The last fee I went to was the only...

Speaker 78 The last fee. Last time, I guess, I'm supposed to be the last time.

Speaker 78 Last time I went, last game I went to, I was the only girlfriend there and worried that maybe I shouldn't go anymore because I didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing.

Speaker 78 I guess my question is: do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them? Does it make a difference when they are not?

Speaker 78 I feel like when I ask my boyfriend, he doesn't want to make me feel bad for not going, but I also don't want to intrude on guy time. It's the last few times I was the only girlfriend there.

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 49 Do not go.

Speaker 11 And also, when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking to me?

Speaker 44 Yeah, do not go.

Speaker 76 I don't

Speaker 42 go to your boyfriend's intramural games.

Speaker 55 Guys want to feel real athletic.

Speaker 78 They don't want to think about how their girlfriend's looking at them and being like, you are not athletic.

Speaker 47 And they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like, do you want to grab a beer after?

Speaker 76 Yes.

Speaker 11 And they want to be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lie to you. And if you were there, then they can't do that.

Speaker 19 And they also want to be, they want to say, hey, I'm grabbing a quick beer with the team after I'll be home in a little bit and have six beers and be home in a lot of of bit.

Speaker 11 Yeah, he wants the freedom to go on like a road trip with his beer league

Speaker 11 and sleep like six people in a one-bed hotel room, get hammered until like five o'clock in the morning, smoke cigarettes, and not have you be like, Hey, when are you coming home?

Speaker 2 Credit to you, though, because

Speaker 1 you at least had the awareness.

Speaker 101 Yeah, feels like you were halfway there.

Speaker 11 Yeah, step one.

Speaker 21 Yeah, uh, okay, good show, boys.

Speaker 1 Been on a heater.

Speaker 4 Heater.

Speaker 14 Uh, let's do numbers: 30, 8, 56.

Speaker 73 This is going to be 20. Today's 20.
3.

Speaker 29 No, it's 3. Today's going to be 20.
I'm picking number 3.

Speaker 95 I'm picking 20. Shane Pug.

Speaker 99 29.

Speaker 51 How about just 20?

Speaker 56 99 points. PFT, did you pick?

Speaker 93 I picked 8.

Speaker 51 How about 20?

Speaker 51 3, 3, 3.

Speaker 63 55.

Speaker 29 Oh, my God.

Speaker 29 That would have been awesome.

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