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On today's part of my take, we have a twofer for the people.

We have Derek Carr, an interview we thought we'd never do.

Yeah.

But it was awesome.

He's a great guy.

We are Derek Carr fans now.

Great interview with him.

Got some awesome stories.

Talked about his career. We also have our good friend Shane Bacon on to preview preview the open championship you thought this was going to be the worst week in sports but we have the open championship we get to wake up at i think 409 on thursday to watch maxoma play we're going to do a choose your own adventure of the all-star game um we have the mount rushmore that will probably piss the most people off because we're going to do the Mount Rushmore of movies or shows that we have not seen.
This is going to make people very, very angry. I don't know how they're going to react in the voting process if they're going to see like really all time classics that we pick and get mad at us.
Yeah, and then vote against us. And not vote for us.
Yeah, but it's going to be great. And then we're going to do Hot Seat Cool Throne.
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Oh, good. I didn't.
I thought about it. And then I saw all the memes happen, and I was like, okay, now it's a safe space to do it.
Yeah, it's the Klay Thompson ear bleeding. It's the ear bleeding.
It was horrific. Who was it? It was awful.
I don't know, but apparently she's been nominated for several Grammy Awards. What? Yeah.
It seemed like a prank in real time. It really did.
And it also, it was so bad. It was one of those videos that if you pulled it up on your phone and started playing it, people would look and be like, are you watching porn? Yeah.
Because there was like some shrieks in there. Ingrid Andress.
Oh, Ingrid, that's tough. Yeah.
And then the end when she tried to really do something at the end with the scoops, it was awful. The home run derby itself stunk too.
It was bad. I mean, there's countless ways that you can improve the home run derby.
We just want to see all the dingers. Yeah.
We want to see the ball hit the bat. We want to see the ball sail.
We want to see it land, and then we want to wait for the next pitch. Yes.
Is that so hard to do? It shouldn't be that hard to fix this. No.
Shout out the Oscar Hernandez. Yeah, the Oscar Hernandez.
El Oscar. Yeah.
Had a great night. Yeah, winning the Home Run Derby.
Pete Alonso, bad night. And that's all he cares about.
Yep. But yeah, it was, I don't know.
I wish, Home Run Derby used to mean something, man. We sound like old men, but I feel like it's the truth.
It is the truth. I think our idea that we had last year was one of the best, which is if you test positive for steroids, you can get out of your suspension by winning the Home and Derby.
Yeah. Breaking Moose.
Give us a cow, Max. Is that Woo? Woo.
So we already taped earlier today, but the national anthem, Ingrid Andrus, released a statement saying, I'm not going to bullshit y'all. I was drunk last night.
I'm checking myself into facility today to get the help I need. That was not me last night.
I apologize to MLB. All the fans in this country I love so much for that rendition.
I'll let you all know how rehab is. I it's super fun hopefully she gets better also incredible move because now this goes down like if she gets better it goes down as like the funniest coolest national anthem ever this is how i knew to turn my life around yeah because i made america weep yeah so yeah i i hope she's good she says uh see you in rehab here it's fun oh so i don't know if't know if that's accurate or not.
I don't know who she should talk to about rehab. Yeah.
If I screwed up the national anthem, this would be a good PR 101 move, though. It's always a great move just whenever you screw anything up to say, I'm seeking treatment.
Right. I need to work on myself.
I'm seeking treatment. But yeah, that was, I mean, at least now we have an explanation for it because that would have been bad for her singing career if that was actually her.
Yeah, and also in the actual Home Run Derby, Max, was there controversy in your Phillies guy losing the semifinals? Yeah, are you talking about the foul ball? Well, I'm talking about that and also the format. I don't know.
I heard a rumor that they did a different format than they were supposed to do. I don't know if that's true or not.
Oh, I didn't know that. I did not know that.
Yeah. And the foul ball didn't really seem that controversial, but I didn't hear that, so I just kind of guessed.
Oh. Well, he hit a home run.
His last swing of the regular round was close to being a home run, but it was pretty clearly foul. I some some philly people thought that it was supposed to be a 60 second swing off in the semi-finals ah but mlb changed it to just what three screwed shorber the other year they did yeah yeah so this is they got it out for philly uh okay that was breaking moves back to what we were talking about um and then we have the all-star game which will choose your own adventure because we're going to hit some dingers tonight uh paul skeins was electric he was shout out mlb by the way for actually doing the right thing and having paul skein start this game well rob manford said that if they didn't make the right decision they would have stepped in so apparently the manager made the call that's a but then that's rob manford trying to get credit for something that he that's bullshit bullshit.
I would have done it too, is what Rob Manford said.

They screwed it on the AL side because the future AL Cy Young, Tariq Skubal, is not starting.

And he is going to be the AL Cy Young as that guy sent me the envelope.

What are you laughing about?

I said per you in Detroit.

Yeah, per – no, well, not per me.

That's not biased, yeah.

Per the guy who gave me the envelope that said bet him right now.

He is the odds-on favorite right now.

Nice. Yeah, so he's having a great year uh did the nl win how many years in a row is uh the nl nine and one al i think in the last 10 yeah the nl did not win sadly tonight damn it it's hard to win on the road it's hard to win on the road hostile crowd all right so All right, so that's another loss for the NL.

Brutal.

You know what?

I'm going to say the NL won.

That way we can cover both our bases.

You think they broke the streak this year?

Yeah, they broke –

I don't know what the streak is at right now.

What is it at?

NL All-Star losing streak.

I do think they won one –

Oh, no, they won last year, right?

I think the streak was over last year. It was nine years in a row.
The Midsummer Classic, who could forget? Yeah, they slapped it. Yeah, how could we forget? Last year, the NL won.
So, AL is going to win. Yeah, the AL is going to win.
The AL is going to win. Max is looking it up right now.
By the way, we have our intern starting on Wednesday, correct? Tomorrow? Today? Today. Today.
Very excited to introduce him to you. He's going to have to, because we obviously, you know, Jake left.
We need someone who's on their computer who can just be like, and this guy, by the way, I don't think this kid. He's not going to be able to do that, but he's going to at least give us moments where we're like, okay.
Based on his past, I don't think we should allow him near a computer. Yes, that's correct.
We'll have him tell the story when he gets debuted on Friday. We'll introduce him to the audience.
And he had one story that basically hooked us for life based on content. But, yeah, so the NL won last year.
Who could forget? We obviously knew that. But the al had won nine in a row before that so the streak is over al's back on top al's back on top and a new streak begins right now oh maybe a new streak starts with the nl i'm back on the nl you think the nl it's flipped this has been some really interesting talk bigger bases pft before we get to uh our mount rushmore and our hot seat cool throne i was Throne, I was cruising around the internet trying to find some sports stuff going on.
This is the deadest week in the sports calendar by far. And that means that ESPN will do something.
Remember when they ranked states, I believe? Was it states? Did they do states? Because I've ranked states before. I can't remember.
They did... SVP did something back in the day where it was either states or...
License plates? Whatever. Who's Now? Who's Now was one of them.
They're doing the top 100 athletes. That was what I was going to bring up.
So top 100 professional athletes since 2000. And they released numbers 51 through 60 today.
American Pharoah? Alex Ovechkin, 54.

Okay.

How do we feel about that?

Also, which makes...

I still respect hockey.

That one's...

Derek, this is a great hat tip to ESPN, an incredible engagement troll move.

They ranked Derek Jeter 53.

And that would get people very upset. But then then you remember he won the majority of his championships in the 90s in the 90s yeah so that was a that was a savvy savvy move by them takes out the meat of his career yeah they should have done like MJ 100 that's bullshit that's bullshit that uh Ovi is so far down like Hank said it's disrespectful to hockey it's to the entire country of Russia.
The man is about to surpass Wayne Gretzky for the top goal scorer of all time in the NHL. What hockey players would be above him? I don't know, but they also ranked...
He was above two soccer players. Why do we have soccer in this? Luka Modric and Alexia Patelos? Okay.
Yeah, it's garbage. Why would we...
J.J. Watt, 58.
That's got to make you feel a little better. Yeah, J.J.
Watt, he should be higher, though. I know.
That's what I'm saying. It should make you feel better about Ovechkin because J.J.
Watt is very, very good. These lists are designed to make you mad.
Yeah. That's what they exist for.
It's like... Oh, they have track and field? When Apple did their top 10 albums of all time, I think they had Frank Ocean ahead of Stevie Wonder.
Yeah. this is a crazy list.
They've gone every sport. There's more soccer and track and fish on.
White's on there. Mookie Betts, Hank, 73.
Great player. I don't think there's going to be a single...
Bryce Harper is 79. Yeah, these are...
Chris Paul, 83. Yeah, these are just made to make you mad we should do ours oh i have a prediction we should do our top 100 i have a prediction yeah i think esp is gonna put serena number one oh just to make people mad tiger's got to be very high tiger's gonna be up there but tiger also But Tiger also started in the 90s.
That's true, but his...

The Masters win.

Yeah.

The dominant Masters win, but the Tiger Slam was in the 2000s.

Rory was 93.

Yeah, I think you're right.

I think they'll do Serena.

They're going to go like Serena won, and then the rest of the top 10s is going to be the

U.S. women's national team.

Yeah.

American Pharoah should be top 10.

Flight line. Yeah, flight line.
Flight line should be number one. Connor McDavid's 98.
And Ed Reed, Charles Woodson 100. Okay, so yeah, this is going to make us mad.
Yeah, that's fine. They have now hooked me.
They've hooked me into it. I got to see.
Do you think they'll do Serena over like Tom Brady? Because Tom Brady also has the perfect, his career was literally the last 20 years.

Yeah, it started 2001.

Right.

Yeah, it should be Tom Brady, Serena,

duking it out for number one overall.

And LeBron as well. LeBron also was, so it should be Brady, LeBron, Serena,

but it will be Serena, LeBron, Brady.

Maybe Sasha Tendalkar, the cricket player?

Yeah, that could throw him in there.

This will be spicy.

How hot is the homes go?

I don't know. LeBron Brady.
Maybe Sasha Tendalkar, the cricket player? Yeah, that could throw him in there. This will be spicy.
How hot his homes go? I mean, shout out to ESPN for figuring out a way to fill up July. Yeah.
Adrian Beltran was 52. This right now, today, this is when we should be talking about the NBA NFL debate.
Yep. This exact day right now, Austin Rivers should have gone on McAfee's show and dropped that bomb on us yep got us through two weeks this is hot dog is a sandwich we wasted two weeks yeah during the nba playoffs and nhl playoffs when we could just make a meal out of that we said it in real time too yeah this is not when we're supposed to do this we're supposed to wait but yeah i'm hooked now now the the real question is going to be who is going to be the best male tennis player on the list is joe federer be jokovic jokovic i think we can agree nadal last and nadal for sure last it'll be federer yeah which is bullshit because jokovic worked him multiple times and has more can you be Alcatraz? He's 16 years older.
I know this is just going to happen to me like everyone. It happened with Federer and Djokovic are a lot closer in age, though.
Are they going to have any drivers on there? Are they going to have any F1 guys on the list? Yeah, Verstappen. Lewis Hamilton.
Hamilton, yeah. Hamilton.
Yeah, Lewis Hamilton. Sir Lewis Hamilton.
Sir Lewis Hamilton. Are you, Hank, quick check-in, are you okay with Jalen Brown and Derek White? Yeah.
Yeah. Why? Because they're NBA champions.
There was a little jab going back and forth because Derek White got on the team. Jalen Brown was like, I'm not on the team, and he basically was like, this is bullshit.
But they're also teammates. Yeah.
Not afraid of you or your resources. Jalen Brown said the first thing he did was call Derek White and tell him he loves him.
Love that. That's the first thing that he did? When he woke up that day? When he saw the news.
Didn't take a piss? When he saw the news. Also, Derek White is the perfect fit, and we like Derek White.

He's the perfect fit on this team that he's going to go and just be a really good teammate.

And you're the 12th guy now.

Not that he won't play, but you want that, right?

Right.

Bench experience. If you added Kyrie or Jalen Brown, it might be a little bit different.

Correct.

It might not want to be the 12th guy.

It'll be interesting to see in the top 10 how many of those are Nike athletes on the ESPN list. Very interesting.
And start connecting those dots there. That's very interesting.
And it can't just be because Nike has the best athletes on the roster. It's got to be because Nike's making the call.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, should we do Hot Seat, Cool Throne, and then get to our Mount Rushmore? Yeah. Again, the worst day in sports calendar.

I'd agree with that.

And the All-Star Game, it is sad because I feel like when we were kids,

maybe kids liked the All-Star Game.

Maybe it's just old people never liked the All-Star Game.

Yeah.

Although, no. So I think the All-Star Game got eroded.

The All-Star Game still, the MLB All-Star Game still is the best All-Star Game by far

because you can't half-ass throwing 99 miles an hour.

So it's still the best.

I noticed it was the dumbest rule in sports.

I did like when it decided home field advantage.

And the All-Star game lost a little bit of its luster

when interleague play happened.

Yeah.

Because that was the cool part of the All-Star game. You you'll never get to see paul skeins versus aaron judge yeah they probably are going to play next week i think i think the all-star game fell off for me when bud selig ruled it a tie that too that one year when he just stood up in the stands and he waved his arms he said no we're done playing right now that was and and growing up uh george w bush our former president his dream job when he was a kid and even as an adult was to be commissioner of major league baseball if george w bush had become commissioner major league baseball the world would be so much better baseball would be so much better say what you want about the man the fucking all-star game is not ending in a tie with george w bush what if that meant bud sealer was president though okay it could have been worse it could have been worse yeah way worse no one gets a bigger pass than bud sealer bud sealer looks terrible i know and you feel like he he just everyone just kind of forgets bud sealer sucked he's also the name bud does a lot of favors for you oh yeah if your name is bud people like you He was the least.
Right there in the name. He was the least Bud of all time.
Yeah. You look at Bud Selig, that's not his name.
He's enemy. Yeah.
He's like a Ernie Selig. Yeah, Ernie would have been a good name for Bud.
Yeah. Ernie Selig would have worked.
And then I remember he released something. They were doing like a profile on Bud Selig and he was like, yeah, I get my haircut once a week every Thursday at the same time.
Nice try, Bud. That was not your hair, buddy.
No, no. You couldn't pull a fast one on that.
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My hot seat's Jalen Brown.

Oh, why? Oh, that's why you didn't

want to skirt it. I thought you were going to skirt it.
I thought

that's what you were bringing up, but

I don't know. He's on the hot seat.
He's really just spitting facts,

but you know. Yeah.
It's headlines

that he probably doesn't want to be involved in.

He was at the Celtics Summer League game last night.

It was Celtics-Lakers, so they were playing Brawny Jr.

But Brawny Jr. is in the Lakers, too.

Well, yeah.

I guess people call him Brawn Brawny.

No.

Brawny is his son's name.

Give a name. It's in the box score.
That'd be wild if brawny had a kid who's also is that true i that's we talked about that a couple weeks ago how it pisses me off that his in the box score you can look it up and it says b james it's like his name is lebron james all right so brawny senior he was watching brawny senior and they showed him on the sidelines talking to his girlfriend. And you could read his lips.
And he said, I don't think Bronny's a pro. Yeah.
And then his girlfriend said, yeah, he'll play on the G League, though. And he said, I don't think so.
Because of his name, he's going to be playing for the Lakers. This is all lips being red.
Yeah. The G League, you could definitely say he says, I don't think Bronny's a pro.
And then the girlfriend definitely says, like, you can see her say G League. I couldn't really tell what he said after that.
But I think the way that he said, I don't think Bronny's a pro isn't that bad for him. No.
It's also not wrong. Yeah, it's not wrong.
No. And also, it's not like he was clowning him.
He was like, I don't think this guy's a pro. Yeah.
He's not a pro. Which is probably inaccurate, unless we're talking about Call of Duty.
In which case, shout out to Bronny, who won the Call of Duty tournament. That was my cool throne.
Yeah, $10,000 cash. Yeah, he won the Call of Duty Summer League tournament, which that wasn't the craziest part.
I mean, one, if you're Bronny, you can't win that. Agreed.
You're just going to get get made fun of the fact that you're very good at video games and you're not good at basketball. Two, Grant Williams is still playing in Summer League.
No, he beat out Bronny for the Summer League title in Call of Duty. He's probably just there, though.
You think so? He's not playing Summer League only two years. That's what I thought, too.
But I his name, and I was like, why is Grant Williams there? There's got to be a different Grant Williams. There's a lot of Williamses, I've learned.
I'm almost positive it's Grant Williams. That's true.
We have learned there's a lot of Williams. That would be crazy if he was playing.
It's impossible. All right.
I don't see him on the roster, so maybe he's just there? Yeah. He's just hanging out? That's what he does.
he's just there yeah so he's just hanging out so jalen brown he does okay yeah i guess he's just hanging out jalen brown tweeted out it's a flex to have your son alongside you in the nba it reflects greatness and longevity brawny has all the tools around to be successful i look forward to watching his growth so he's kind of walking it back a little bit there okay so that's what his statement is right but his statement is a flex he's basically just be like yeah lebron yeah that's but he's not a pro it's all lebron's ego that's what this whole thing is it's i don't want to i i don't want to get into the it's you know what it's non-sports week but some people could argue that lebron when he realized that he wasn't going to win six titles and match MJ, he's like, what else can I try to get that they'll say in my GOAT conversation and having Brawny, playing with Brawny, will be there. Even though it means nothing.
MJ's son never played in the league, right? That's facts. It means nothing, but that's exactly what's going on.
What was Angel Reese's reaction? Because she was next to jaylen brown's girlfriend her mouth is kind of blocked but she kind of says like he's not and like you can see play the clip you can see her say something like kind of you know be like yeah no he's not i don't think probably he's a pro yeah see she shakes her head yeah ain't an attractive lady angel reese is deep in her phone. She's a big phone girl.
So you ought to go back to this for a second, but Grant Williams is just playing Call of Duty Summer League? I got to see. What is going on? They probably asked Grant Williams, hey, we need another player in this tournament.
Can you come out and do it in conjunction with the Summer League? I guess. Well, he's on, like we said, he's the VP of the Players Association.
It players association it's very it's just very jalen brown's the vp it's very confusing that he was in this tournament but okay and brawny did uh earn ten thousand dollars for winning attorney yeah so does that count against the cap i don't know i don't know either so the call of duty thing that was only for summer league players right it's not like brawny is a world- Call of Duty player. Apparently not because Grant Williams is right there.
He's not playing in Summer League. Yeah, you can't win this.
You cannot win this if you're Bronny. Wow, he's cracked.
He's young. Dude.
He's in phase, dude. The jokes aren't.
Phase up. He's been so bad.
Phase up. Now, Hank, did he get into phase on his own merits or did he get in because his dad's LeBron Joe? No like a sniper trick shotter so his godfather's Nick Merckx yeah he's really good he got drafted uh yeah and by the way I did double check if you go on ESPN it is b.james and he was one for five oh for three from three-pointer be Hamas be Hamas be Hamas.
Okay. So Jalen Brown, I have no problem with Jalen Brown saying this.
This is why I ultimately, this whole entire thing, I feel awful for Bronny. I really do.
Because he knows guys are saying this. And he knows that this is going to be said in the locker room.
And it's going to be said when he's going up against another team.

Everyone's going to look at him and be like,

you're only here because of your dad,

which I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be there because of his dad

because LeBron James has done a ton for the NBA

and he's been the best player for the last 20 years,

but it has to suck deep down to be like,

everyone's talking about me in this way.

That does suck.

That part sucks, but I don't feel bad for him because he is in the NBA. I know.
He got an NBA contract. He gets to play in NBA games.
He's a Los Angeles Laker. If he didn't want all the stuff that goes along with it, all you have to do is say, you know what, Dad? Let's be realistic.
I'm not an NBA player. I don't know why he didn't go back to college.
Yeah. It would have been just as fun.
It would have been great. Yeah.
Cool Thrones Victor Hovland. Yeah.
You guys ready to get deep? Let's get deep. Get deep on me.
All right. So this is from Dylan Deathier, who is a writer for Golf Magazine.
Is that another Trump joke? D-E-T-H-I-E-R. Okay.
Deathier? Sure. Deathier.
He said, what's on Victor Hovland's mind? A lot about the golf swing. Plus this.
And this is a quote from Victor Hovland. What do you think happens after we die? We don't know.
The establishment will say your neurons will stop firing. Your body will rot.
Okay. The establishment? That's one explanation.
But if you look at our ancestors, there's a huge culture that goes into preparing for the afterlife. Were they just idiots or were they on to something? Did this guy just discover religion? I'm just curious to find out.
We've gotten sold that we have all the answers, but there's just so much we don't know. I find those questions super motivating and I just want to figure it out.
Okay. Yeah.
I think his mind is, I don't know how focused he is on the open this week. Just ask some questions.
What do you think happens after we die, Hank? Reincarnated into an animal. What animal? It's different for every person, but an animal where you can't speak, so you can't share your knowledge.
Oh, so you just have to exist with all your knowledge that you have? You would be a moth because you'd just fly directly at that lighthouse. Yeah.
Yeah. Or a whale.
So Victor Hovland's just sitting around with this in his brain right now? They're like, yeah, what's going on? How are you getting prepared for the US Open, Victor? And he was just like, what happens after we die? I think what happens after you die is you get eaten by worms. We all just become worms.
So this guy, this is not a championship mentality that he's in. I don't think so.
When you're entering a major championship week, you don't. Or maybe it is.
Maybe he's so unfocused on golf, he's just going to play well. How can you focus on golf? That's the thing.
He's just, I don't know. I don't think he's going to play well.
Not to get on the Victor Hovland thing, like going down this weird questions, but it is kind of weird that we bury people. Well, what are we going to do with them? I don't know, but just thinking about it, that is kind of weird.
Do you think in 50 million years, people are going to be digging? On Long Island, there's a giant cemetery that we have there. In 50 million years, are they going to be digging there, and they're going to find that huge cemetery and just make oil out of all of us? I don't know, but it's just...
I'm just... This is one of those things you shouldn't think about things too much.
Just thinking about, like, you put someone in a box, and you put them in the ground, and that's it. That's kind of weird.
Yeah. Or you could get cremation.
You could get cremated. Cremation is better.

Which feels a little less weird.

I like cremation.

It does feel a little less weird.

You could always be like, you know, put a little me here, put a little me there.

Put a little me on the golf course.

Yeah.

Put a little me more on the golf course.

You know what?

Just pour the whole thing on the golf course.

Ocean.

Chop me up, do a line of me.

Golf course.

Yeah.

Oh, Hank.

Oh, if Hank dies before us, we got to get him cremated and we'll fucking sit his ass in a chair at work every day. Fuck you, Hank.
You're coming to work, buddy. I will haunt you.
Yeah, you will. I won't be coming to work.
I fully. I'll be retired.
I fully believe that if Hank had the powers as a ghost to choose, if you want to be a friendly ghost or a haunting ghost. Oh, yeah.
Hank would show up and just ruin everything. Put Hank back in like the 10th grade math class yeah here you go buddy take a seat i want my body to be jettisoned into outer space after i die because it's a vacuum right so nothing nothing eats away at you so that way my body's just floating around space forever i like until like a civilization discovers me and brings me back to life puts me in a zoo i.
I like that. Yeah.
I like that. Thanks, Victor.
Yeah, thanks, Victor. Yeah.
Got us going. Got us talking.
Who is the establishment in this case? Yeah. The establishment tells you the neurons stop firing.
Earth? God? NWO. NWO.
Yeah. WEF? That is, yeah, the establishment's not the right word there.
The establishment says that when you die, you die.

The establishment will say your neurons will stop firing, your body will rot.

I think in this case, the establishment means people who are smarter than doctors.

Or could the establishment be your own body?

His own brain?

His own brain stops the neurons stop firing.

So he's at war against himself?

Yeah.

Okay, Victor, great thought starter.

Yeah. Way to go, dude.
What happens after we die? I might have to bet him i'm gonna do a death bet yeah i'm betting him fuck it for a little bit yeah he gets he gets the clear jug and he's just all morose and sad because he's like yeah but you know what like one day i'm gonna die and then what maybe he becomes a golf ball that would suck yeah just get smashed around maybe one of those old ghosts that hangs out at the golf course after they win a tournament there and we see in the movies all the time okay pft your hot seat cool uh my hot seat was gonna be brawny but i think i feel like we've reached the depths of the brawny conversation uh so my cool throne clark hot seat charlotte clark clark clark clark clark clark might get a free trip to paris i don't know we'll see uh

cool throne steven a smith yes because he won the divorce officially steven a smith has won the

skip bayless steven a smith divorce it took a few years to get there skip seemed like he was happy

with his new flame things were going well with him and shannon then shannon said you know what

i can do better he goes off does his own podcast gets 5 trillion views on it, works for ESPN, seems to be having a good time. Then they tried to replace Shannon with like five different people on Undisputed.
And it just wasn't hitting the same for Skip. So Skip is out at Fox Sports, I believe at the end of the summer.
Yeah, what is he going to do? I offered the intern spot on part of my take to Skip Bayless.

Love that.

I think that if Skip wants to reach the next generation,

this is a good place to do it.

Have him on that couch over there.

We need a Cowboys fan all the time.

I mean, there's always room in this world for Skip Bayless

taking off a Cowboys jersey and throwing it into a trash compactor

and walking out of the room.

Those videos are always going to hit. This is kind of a win for the world.
In what way? Like Skip, I've always thought Skip is the, he sucks. Like Stephen A.
Smith is playing a character. I like Stephen A.
Smith. I know that he can be a provocateur, but he's doing somewhat of an act.
Skip is kind of just an asshole. But I like that yeah i guess i guess like i wouldn't want to hang off shannon i wouldn't want to hang out with him i don't know but i would be bummed if we didn't get any more stephen a smith i'd be bummed if we didn't get any more shannon there's like a like coward is weird but like he still is kind of funny you know what i mean where he'll he'll say stuff you're like, that's funny.
Skip doesn't really add anything besides being an asshole and running like the same three plays. He just feels different than the other guys in that group.
But I do love something about Skip Bayless. I mean, I don't want to have a conversation with him.
I don't want to hang out with him. I don't want to work with him.
But I feel like the sports ecosystem needs a Skip Bayless. Somebody that's so so like dead set every single moment of skip bayless's life is focused on how can i make this about lebron james yeah or the cowboys or the cowboys he i mean he was heartbroken that brawny wasn't playing well because i think he wanted brawny to be better than his dad yeah he'll come on the show now i'm sure he'll have to like i'm sure we'll have Skip Bayless on in, like, the fall or the spring.
Him being like, you know, I have this new project. I think we should hire him.
Everyone please go listen. I think we should hire Skip Bayless.
Yeah. Imagine him just hanging out in the office all the time.
Ernestine, dual package. We need Ernestine.
Gotta have Ernestine. Gotta have Ernestine.
She's his producer. Can't sleep in the same bed, though.
Yeah. On the weekdays.
Oh, does that mean mean they're gonna are they gonna start sleeping in the same bed every night they might start fucking oh my god in which case this sucks for earnest i feel bad for earnest what if skip and earnest and start doing it and then all of a sudden like skip bayless changes his entire tune on life he's like i found the love of a woman yeah getting late is awesome lebron you're actually a great player. Yeah, you're a cool dude.
I apologize for everything. My bad.
Tim Tebow, I tried the virginity thing. Having sex is way better.
I no longer love you. Yeah.
So skips out. Sad day.
Crazy. Sad day for sports.
Yeah. Okay.
My hot seat is Florida State. Oh, they're doing top 10 quarterbacks.
See that, Max? Yeah. Top 10 quarterbacks, and Jalen Hurts is not in the top 10.
No, it's a Jalen Hurts revenge tour this year. It's going to be great.
I don't see a Dak on that list. Oh, there he is.
He's at 10 behind Jared Goff. Florida State has been announced, so the ACC is still up in the air.
Weird shit. Everyone thinks thinks they might leave the big 10 and the sec came out and said they are not uh interested in taking florida state uh they basically said it makes no financial sense for league and they have not been a good partner what does it not been a good part i think they've just been uh upset or just you know riled stuff up they've been a disruptive partner was the quote so reading between the lines it seems like Florida State wants to be treated like they're now the star of the Big Ten yeah but also this does me this means nothing because this is essentially they're saying so Big Ten SEC unlikely to add Florida State if it leaves acc and acc survives those two things aren't going to happen at the same time right this is like when when the big 10 was like we're not going to take washington and oregon if the pac-12 survives when washington and oregon are gone after uc usc and ucla are gone the pac-12 is not surviving yeah if clemson and florida state leave the acc they're not going to survive.
So the Big Ten and SEC basically are saying, we don't want them unless the ACC is gone, which if they leave, they'll be gone, in which case we want them. It also might seem like Florida State is, they're on the Titanic, which is the ACC, which is sinking.
They get on a lifeboat and they're like, why is there no open bar? It's like, the Big Ten feels like a great fit. sec florida state should be in the sec geographically it would make a lot of sense yeah but i understand partner part though's funny i understand why florida state would not want to be in the sec with the recruiting in that area right it's better if you're in the big 10 for that but uh yeah they're they're gonna get out at some point yeah it's we're still going we're gonna get two super conferences.
And then my cool throne is the haters and the doubters, of which there are many, because I came back with Doug's last night or Monday night. We're going to stream again tonight, Wednesday night, 730 Central.
I'm terrible at this game. Yeah.
It's going to take some time. What the fuck, Hank? You were before we started taping, you're like, it's fine.

You'll be fine.

Well, from, you were definitely.

Take your headphones off.

Take your headphones off.

Take your headphones off.

All right, I'm not listening.

It's better for you to be really bad to start.

But I don't want to be as bad as I am. I understand that.

I'm just saying.

I didn't sleep last night. From a holistic point of view.
I didn't sleep last night that's big picture kill me it's like it's it's training camp it's like you know you as a coach i'm not a coach but like looking at it from from from the outside it's like it's better to have you know but what if i never get good well like belichick like you like even no matter how good you are you want to break down the down the bad things it's almost good to have things to break down and improve on you learn more from mistakes than you do from success and Big Hat can learn textbooks from all the mistakes memes is my co-offensive he's my Ernie Adams wasn't a great night for my first night with Ernie Adams. How's that working?

Memes.

I thought I thought last night went well.

I went one and it went well.

No, yeah, it went well.

It went well.

It was a why can't you just blame your defense?

I did.

Okay, good.

I also blame my kids.

I blamed Xbox PlayStation.

You said that coach Doug's a one kid guy.

Yeah, I said he's a one kid guy.

We're going to have to have a talk with kids two and three and be like, hey, you might have to leave for a while. Yeah.
Because I got a coach. Minimize distractions.
Yeah, it's great. The game is great.
It's so much fun to be back. But I also feel really bad for Washington State because they're like, we believe in you, and they don't realize Doug's is – he'll be out as soon as he gets a better offer.

That's how Doug's works.

So if I win some games, I'm gone.

Either way, the haters and doubters, of which there are many, get a lot of –

Is this a lost season?

No.

Have you thought about expanding the playbook?

Yes.

But that's easier said than done.

What are you going to say, Max?

I just wanted the listeners to know that, like, you – this is real real football coach you're a real football coach right now i am trying it's consumed all of your brain i how many people was that the first thing that you said to today is like doug stinks oh every single person i saw like it's it's completely consumed it's all i've got on my mind it's a football coach you're a real football coach it's back into i forgot what it's like to be doing this where you're playing video games for a lot of people and it's just, it eats away at me. I didn't sleep last night.
I was like, God damn it, two and three is so much better than one and four if you just didn't, weren't an idiot in that Stanford game. Have you guys seen the screenshots that are going around of players, like people that, maybe it's when you're a player in the game and you get like text messages from your teammates? Yeah, I lot of them are fake are they fake i think so i'm asking you if you want to come out memes is my is is my recruiting coordinator as well because uh i need him to just we don't have time right now um so he'll let you know if that happens okay if he gets hit up uh okay should we do the mount rushmore let's do it this is gonna be a good one this is going to uh piss a lot of people off the mount rushmore is brought to you by our friends at body armor body armor is the greatest drink out there it is something we drink every day i have it right next to me the water they also have some great sports drinks real hydration.
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Okay. Mount Rushmore of movies and TV shows we've never seen.
Now this is going to be honor system. I think we all trust each other.
We also all know a lot of where our blind spots are. Also, these are deeply embarrassing things at times to admit.
Yeah, very. No, I've had this theory for a while where one of my picks might be out there, but I think that everyone has one or two movies or shows that they just missed.
And when you say it out loud, people are like, what? How is that possible? And you always hear them talked about. Yeah.
You're like, you don't want to. Because then you're just distracting the conversation about the movie or show to everyone be like, wait, you haven't seen that.
I have one on my list that I actually think that I've like just said, yes, I've seen. And I not seen and i know like because i'm so embarrassed about it and i it like eats me up inside because it's something i would love but yeah this is going to be mount rushmore people are going to be very upset about uh by the way but also everyone that's upset also has some that they like it's like yeah everyone has these yeah and and guess what? I would love for this list to be bigger

because there's nothing better than being like,

I haven't seen this classic movie or TV show

and now I get to go watch it.

Yeah, during COVID, I got to watch all of Game of Thrones

for the first time and it was incredible.

Yeah.

I was so happy about it and people were jealous

that I got to do it.

Right.

I wonder, there might be one person

that doesn't have anything they missed.

Jeff Lowe.

I don't think Jeff Lowe's missed anything.

He's a freak.

He sees everything.

He's a freak.

By the way, did you got, I don't think anyone responded to the AWO hit me up who said that

we could literally do cat in the hat in the punishments, that one of the punishments could

be getting a cat.

I'm down.

Okay.

Are you?

I'm allergic to cats.

Yeah.

Max, what? So you'll have to get one of those skinless weird cats yeah no thanks yeah i don't know there's hypoallergenic cats i went through this process last time i think blake would make short work of that cat so you're so you're out but the listeners do we want to murder a cat no content true good point all. Just for the record, I was down.

I was down, too.

I was in.

I'm not going to, but I have given it a little more thought.

I'm down, but since Max. But I just think it would be a weird mood.

I don't think we should have a cat as a single guy.

Yeah, no, definitely be a weird mood.

That's why you got to make it not weird and get three cats.

That's how you make it not weird.

All right.

Mount Rushmore. So what's the order? I'm going first.
Yep. Big cat how you make it not weird.
All right. Let me chill.
Mount Rushmore.

So what's the order?

I'm going first?

Yep.

Big Cat, Hank, Max, me.

Okay.

My 1-1.

I think this is going to hurt PFT.

Yeah.

It's an easy 1-1.

I've never seen any of the Star Wars.

Yep, me too.

Not a single one.

I didn't even put that down on my list because I knew you were going to take it.

And I know, obviously, Darth Vader.

I know, like, the story. Never it who's darth vader's son luke luke luke i am your father yeah like that's the shit that you know but you don't nothing else i yeah i just never i don't like sci-fi and that was i just never watched it Who's Darth Vader's real name? Anakin.

Luke Herringo. like sci-fi and that was i just never watched it who's darth vader's originals who's a real name anakin luke harren go there you go oh okay that was close uh wait anakin skywalker anakin is that's darth vader oh this is gonna get clem and robbie so mad this entire mountain and then i love this and then yoda is the grandfather groku no groku is y Nope.
What's R2-D2 in C-3PO? They're just computers? They're in all the movies. And then Chewbacca is...
R2-D2 might be the sneaky main character. So Luke and Princess Leia is his brother or sister.
Luke and Princess Leia are twins. And they fuck? And they make out.
Oh. And then Han Solo is, what's he? What does he do? He's Luke's buddy.
Him and Chewbacca are boys. Chewbacca's his pet.
Chewbacca's his partner. Pet.
Partner. Does he have a leash for him? No.
Who made C-3PO? Anakin. So he's a robot inventor? Yeah.
What's the guy you dress up as in case phrases? Who's that? Episode one. He is a Sith Lord that gets killed by Anakin after Darth Maul kills.
Oh, no. He gets killed by Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Who's that? That's Anakin's master. Or what do you call it? Anakin was his apprentice.
Sensei? Mentor? Anakin was Obi-Wan's apprentice. And the Ewoks are all just baby Yodas that hang out on a planet.
They're like little baby bears. How is Anakin related to Luke? Father.
Anakin is Luke's father, but Luke came first. No, but in Star Wars, it started 4, 5, 6, which is about Luke.
Darth Vader's the bad guy. Did they do that on purpose? And then 20 years later, they did 1, 2, 3, which is Anakin's beginning leading up to him becoming Darth Vader.
And then they did 8, 9, 10, which are fucking horrible and ruined the entire franchise. Anakin is Darth Vader? Yep.
And he is Luke's father? Correct. But the first...
Obi-Wan Kenobi is Luke's... Is this Rushmore just going to be explaining every single movie or show that I do here? No, just this one.
Just this one. Obi-Wan Kenobi was...
Luke was Anakin's master, and then he was in the sequel trilogy. He also was Luke's master.
And what's Jar Jar? But then Anakin kills, Darth Vader kills Obi-Wan. Who kills Jar Jar? I don't know.
I think Jar Jar survived. So Jar Jar wins.
What are the things that... People think Jar Jar was the ultimate villain, Snoke.
Oh. But that got proven to be wrong.
What are the big elephant things? That you just i did i did play the video game the video game rocked when the first video game you just ride around them and you rope rope them off and what is bill burr he's a mandalorian got it okay okay all right star wars all right um my one one i think you guys know this if people hated me before before, I think this might be the end of my career with the AWLs.

I apologize.

I know the characters.

I've seen Twitter clips of red blogs.

South Park.

Oh!

I've never seen South Park.

You've never watched an episode of South Park. Okay, Hank.
That's not the one. Can we talk, Hank? I have seen enough episodes of South Park that I made myself ineligible, but I have probably seen less than six episodes of South Park.
I've had roommates that have watched it. I never have really cared for it.
I've never sat down by myself or with a roommate and been like i'm gonna watch an episode of south park i've seen you know when they like someone will post to twitter like south park did this you know version of whatever talking about current events so i've seen clips i know cartman i know uh pc principal billy football the big balls guy i'm with you hank there's a guy that always dies eric dies every episode whatever no carl kenny kenny i was with cartman i i'm with you hank like i i had to take it off my list because i have i have sat down and watched probably like four to five of them but i never have watched a full season i don't really know like the jokes i know it's funny i just never got into it yeah did you watch the movie no no i and i see i my tiktok algorithm has like the behind the scenes of them doing the voice yeah they're incredible guys hater it's it's it's funny stuff it's like the funny i get i'm ashamed yeah i know i'm ashamed it's one of like my favorite were you not allowed to watch it when you were a kid that's part of it yeah so i never watched it i have one of those as well i think south park for me it just just came out at a time that I kind of wasn't watching that type of TV.

Yeah, I couldn't watch it in my house.

And then when I got older, I never got into it.

My parents were very cool about letting me watch.

If it was in cartoon format, I could watch any show.

So it was like Beavis and Butthead, Simpsons, South Park from the time I was really young, which I'm thankful for.

But South Park is a big one.

I did not think you were going with South Park. I need to know what one you guys thought i had we're not going to say it yeah because we don't want to trigger something that gets you to say it i mean i i'll say it at the end i also don't think i don't know i think yeah whatever all right we have we have more picks yeah all right max but that was the one i don't know know what...
Now I have no idea. Was it a movie or a TV show? TV show.
TV. Honestly, I didn't have this one on my list because I didn't even think about it because I've never seen it, but that just sparked me.
I've never seen The Simpsons. What? Never seen The Simpsons.
That's shocking. Ever? Never.
Never seen it. That's a great pick.
I should have said that. Great pick.
God damn it. It didn't even cross my mind because I've never even thought about watching it.
Wow. Because it was one of those things like when I was a kid, I couldn't watch it.
And then I just like South Park and Family Guy. So I was like, I don't care about The Simpsons.
South Park. It may have been something like Hank said.
People around me have probably been watching it, but I've never sat down and had the intent to watch an episode of The Simpsons. I think seasons three through eight on The Simpsons are the best TV ever made.
OG Simpsons. So Max gets OG Simpsons on this? OG Simpsons, yeah.
Get OG Simpsons. All right, all right, all right.
Okay. Good pick.
PFT. My one one is going to be the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
I've never seen a Marvel movie. Any of them? I've never seen a Marvel movie.
You've never seen Iron Man? Never seen Iron Man. Iron Man is the one that most people- I feel like you've seen at least one of these.
You have to pick one of them. I haven't seen any of them.
No, I think that counts. It's like Star Wars.
No, no, no. I know, but I feel like you've seen it.
No, no, I understand that. I'm saying I feel like there's one that he's seen that he doesn't realize he's seen.
Okay, all right. That's my point.
Unless it's Iron Man. Name the most common ones.
Iron Man. And none of the Avengers.
I did see 15 minutes of Iron Man 2. But that's...
None of the Avengers. That's fine.
Never seen never seen an Avengers. Captain America.
Nope. Spider-Man.
I have seen Batman. Daredevil.
Spider-Man. But it has been Tom Holland's Spider-Man.
Ant-Man? Nope. Batman's not in Marvel.
No Spider-Man. You've never seen even the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man? I haven't seen any Spider-Man.
Never watched the Spider-Man. That's insane.
I haven't either. You could even put the Spider-Mans on there.
Yeah. Blade? Like the Tobey Maguire.
Blade is not. I don't even know what Blade is.
Isn't Blade a Marvel? I don't think Blade is a Marvel. No.
I don't know what that is. Yeah.
I don't know what that is. That's Guardians of the Galaxy.
That's Guardians of the Galaxy. I've never seen it.
That's another one that's. I haven't seen most of them.
That's the one with the raccoon and the tree, right?

Yeah, the tree.

Endgame.

I've only seen the Iron Man's in one of the first Endgame movie, or the first Avengers movie. I promise you, I've never seen a Marvel movie.

Yeah.

And they're like, if you go down the list...

Black Panther.

Oh, is that a Marvel movie?

Oh, got him.

Yes.

Yes.

Black Panther's Marvel. I did watch Black Panther.
I did not see Black Panther. Yep.
Black Panther's Marvel. Damn.
Okay. I was actually worried about saying I hadn't seen Black Panther because I have not seen Black Panther.
Black Panther's good. It's good, too.
It's very good. I saw it on an airplane.
Dang. Yeah.
Okay. All right.
So I'll take. That was honestly integrity right there.
I'm going to take the Avengers franchise then. Yep, that works.
But also just know I've never seen a Marvel movie besides that. I have literally never seen any of these movies.
Not a single one. Blade is Marvel, by the way.
Is that the Wesley Snipes? Yeah. Did you ever see Blade? I haven't seen Blade from back in the...
Maybe I saw Blade 2. So you have what? The Endgame? Avengers.

I've got the entire Avengers series.

Okay.

Yeah.

Got it.

I had that on there as well.

I haven't seen any of these.

Okay.

Not a single one.

I hate that you found Black Panther.

I forgot.

I knew you had seen one.

I'm going to dig into your choices now, big time.

I mean, I knew you'd seen one.

I was going to pick...

I was going to pick...

Wait, you've seen Mandalorian, haven't you oh what baby yoda you never watch any of it no i like the memes and shit i post the memes with the coffee the uh end game was what i was gonna pick as well the avengers avengers yeah so i got the avengers franchise and then my second, Harry Potter.

Never seen a Harry Potter.

Also, that's a show.

Never read a book.

It's Star Wars.

But no, I haven't seen a Star Wars movie.

You want to put movie?

I'm just... Okay.

We can put movie.

I'm pretty sure I just posted the memes because I thought he was the cutest thing ever.

Maybe we should do a different...

The show is red and the movie is green on the graphic. I've never seen a Star Wars movie.
Okay, but Harry Potter. Yeah, I've never seen it.
Never read it. Those are two heavy hitters for you.
Never watched it. People get very mad at me about the Harry Potter thing.
I know that Max looks like that one guy. Hagrid.
I actually watched... I read the books as a kid.
Probably the last books I ever read. And I forget what caused it, but I got into Harry Potter movie binge this year.
I re-watched them all. I do that like once every like three years.
I love Harry Potter. It's my favorite one of those.
I haven't seen any Harry Potter as well. I went on a Harry Potter podcast a couple years ago.
Never saw anything. They explained Harry Potter to me, so I understand part of it.
And there's houses, right? So you can be in a different clan. Yeah.
Well, I don't know. I've never...
Would you rather be Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Slytherin, or Ravenclaw? Ravenclaw. Easy answer.
Slytherin. That's a good one.
That's a very happy people. Ravenclaw's a good answer? Ravenclaw's mid.
Ahlaw's mid You want to be Hufflepuff, right? Gryffindor Well, it depends Ravenclaw's not a bad pick Okay Max The Wire Never seen a single episode It's always one that's been on my list People are going to hate this I have to watch this People are going to hate this so much W Wire's favorite show of all time. Watch it probably once a year.
They're going to hate it so much. I have read the oral history, actually, of The Wire.
It's really good. Very good.
So good. Every season is good.
Every character is great. There's no good guys.
There's no bad guys. The bad guys are good.
The good guys are bad. It's incredible.
Mm-hmm. Shit.
You don't know Omar? Omar coming. No, not at all.
Damn. Chain of command, McNulty.
I say that all the time. I feel like even if you haven't seen a lot of these shows, you've been exposed to enough GIFs from the show.
See, I know nothing. I don't even know if I...
I probably have seen Wire GIFs. I would have no idea that they were from the Wire.
You've definitely seen the gif of WeeBay scratching his chin

when he realizes something's gone.

That's the, oh, shit.

Price of the brick went up.

Let him know we back up.

Yep.

That one you've definitely seen.

Oh, that one sounds familiar.

Yep.

You've definitely seen that.

Oh, this is such a good show.

Wait.

Am I up?

Oh, no, I went first, yeah.

It's in order.

I'm going to go. I said this on the show a couple weeks ago the matrix yeah red pill blue pill good pick dodging bullets you haven't seen any of them we're living in a simulation yep like red pilled is red pill political or is that matrix it's become, but the initial reference of the red pill and the blue pill was the red pill.
You can see what's really going on under the surface and the blue pill is just go back to your life and fuck around. So do you want the truth? And what does he take in the movie? He takes red pill.
Matrix one was so good. Loved that movie.
Yeah. It was so good.
It was a big-time deal, too. All right.
I got two. I think I've said this one before.
I've never seen a full episode of Friends. That one's on there.
I've just never seen a full episode. That's a banger.
I thought about putting that on my list. I think I've seen too many half episodes of Friends.
I've seen clips, but I was a Se and through yeah i've seen every seinfeld a thousand times i just never liked friends once you once you realize that they put a laugh track for every single like other word it kind of ruins it yeah not that i ever really loved it but listening to friends from a different room it will annoy the fuck out of you because you just hear pause laughter pause and you're like there's no chance this show could be that funny yeah all right here's the one that's been really shamed about really really ashamed about because i definitely have just been like yeah i've seen it um and i truthfully have never seen it and it's also movies that i would absolutely love and i know i'd love i've never seen a single fast and Furious. Yeah, it's good.
I'm like, this actually pains me. I'm actually kind of, I've only seen a couple.
It pains me to say, especially because Feidelberg is one of my favorite people in the entire world, and his excitement for it gets me excited. I'm like, I know I'd love this, and it fucking pains me.
I've never seen a single Fast and Furious.

Feidelberg turned me on those, but I've never loved the movies.

I saw the first two, and they're good that you can just turn your brain off.

Yeah.

But that's the type of movie I love.

Yeah, it's a great turn your brain off.

Yeah.

So that hurts.

It hurts.

I'm happy I've been able to say it out loud.

What's the... I don't want to talk about it.

Okay.

It's me?

Yeah.

Thank you. what's the i don't want to talk about it okay it's me yeah um these are more my last two are more from when we were younger or when i was younger okay jurassic park okay oh you stole that from me i never saw that people would always that's how i that's when that was the original when i said that like five years ago and people flipped on me.
Really?

Yeah.

I should have seen that.

You can get away with it.

Yeah.

I feel like there's movies that when I was younger, I had a lot of movies on VHS and

if it wasn't in my collection, I never saw it.

It's really about the first one.

The first Jurassic Park, I think is-

Yeah.

No, the first one.

Is the best.

The first one with Chris Pratt where he's doing the thing to the Raptors, the stop.

No, yeah. I'm talking about the OG Steven Spielberg.
Yep. Yeah.
I've the first one. Is the best.
The first one with Chris Pratt where he's doing the thing to the Raptors. The stop.
No, yeah.

I'm talking about the OG Steven Spielberg.

Yeah, I've seen Jurassic World.

I don't think I've ever seen Jurassic Park.

Why the fuck don't we have Jurassic Park yet?

Why is that not a real thing?

Because it'll take over the world.

I don't give a fuck.

Who cares?

Instead of buying a website so that you can post on an Elon, buy a fucking dinosaur.

Make dinosaurs for the people.

Yep.

All right, Hank. Or no, Max.
Good pick, Hank. I had it on my list.
Never seen Gladiator. Oh.
That's a good one. Never seen Gladiator.
That hurts. And that's one that I know is such a cool guy movie to talk about.
Are you not entertained? That's one, though, that I'm jealous of you because it is awesome. And there's a new one coming out.
Yeah. So you can watch it both.
I need to watch it, but I just never have. Joaquin Phoenix.
But that movie holds up. Yeah.
We should watch. Everyone should have to watch one of these and do a review.
Okay. Okay.
You guys have to watch eight movies. Yeah, I do have a lot of movies.
Well, no, PFTs is like 20. No, he just got Endgame.
Is Avengers. Avengers is three or four.
I have, what, set? How many Fast and Furious are there? Oh, you have Fast and Furious. Star Wars.
I think there's 10 Fast and Furious and 10 Star Wars. But that's also, it's easier to miss those because if you miss the first, you just say no.
And that's what I've done. All right.
You have two picks, PFT. I'm deeply ashamed of this one.
Because I do think at some point I have said that I've seen one of them. Yep.
The Godfather. What? I've never seen it.
I've never seen Godfather. There's no way that's true.
It is true. I don't believe that.
The scene I remember I saw there was a grandfather. We've joked about it a million times about LeBron.
You've known the characters. I know the characters.
I feel like this is. Well, no, you can't say that.
Oh, okay. I'm being honest.
No, that's fine. I know.
I'm being honest. I'm being honest.
I know the amount of times we've talked about it. I know the Corleone family.
I know that Fredo, I did it. I know it was you, Fredo, and it breaks my heart.
Kiss him, right? That's his brother, right? Fredo Corleone is Albuso's brother. Yes.
Kisses him, says, I know that. I know the references.
I know that the old guy dies having a heart attack in his garden. Yeah.
Right? With his granddaughter around him. Grandson, I think.
Never seen any of The Godfathers. I've only seen him like twice, so that's not that crazy.
And the first one I watched in school. The crazy part I was saying is we've made fun of LeBron like a thousand times talking about The Godfather.
For reading The Godfather. Right.
There's been times where I've tried to watch Godfather 2 and I feel like it's a movie. It's long.
It's as long as it is. It puts me to the Godfather 3 is the one with De Niro, right? No, Godfather 2.
De Niro's in all. No.
De Niro's in Godfather 2. But the third one is the one we don't talk about.
Third one is just... I've never seen Godfather 3.
Yeah. I've seen one and two.
I've never seen Godfather 3 either. But the gif.
Yeah. They pull me back in that is it i do want to watch them but i i hank kind of put the nail on the head that's a good pick it's a long ass movie yeah you should watch them though they're great i feel like you will enjoy that i know i'm jealous of you i know and i will watch them the first one i watched in like film school my teacher broke it all down so it's more interesting but i think if i was watching those on my own like i wouldn't have got past one yeah okay for the last pick i want to say i almost took one but out of the spirit of fairness i've seen over half this movie i've seen probably 60 minutes of it so i did not take toy story okay but i almost did i've never watched the entire thing i didn't watch toy story till i had kids yeah like i didn't see it as a kid.
Yeah. So, I'm going to go with Hunger Games.

Never seen Hunger Games.

Good pick.

Good pick.

Good movies.

Good movies.

Good books.

I'm jealous of you if you were able to watch Godfather.

I think I just read. I just realized I've only read books of, like, movies.

Do you ever read the book first?

Books of movies?

You watch the movie, then read the book?

Hunger Games, I watched the movie, and then the next movie hadn't been out yet yet so i read the book because i wanted to find out what happened got it catching fire okay max uh i have the same one as pft is that i don't think that i've seen it but i may have seen it so i'm not going to take it which which would have been the departed but hank's seen it 17

times the last two yeah i don't think i've sat next to hank on on two different plane trips and

he's been watching on both plane trips i was finishing it it's a good plane movie yeah it

was after missoula and then i i i was finishing it i wasn't watching okay okay you just go back

and forth between the town the departed yeah goodwill haunting uh big three it isn't it is a

Thank you. I was finishing it.
I wasn't watching it again. Okay.
You just go back and forth between The Town, The Departed, Good Will Haunting.

A big three. It is a nice big three for city movies.

The one that I know that I haven't seen that you guys are going to get mad about is Peaky Blinders.

That's not mad.

I'm just like, that's kind of like The Godfather with PFT.

I'm like, I'm actually kind of jealous.

Yeah.

Those are so good. Season one is really good.
Yeah. So good.
They're great. Those are great shows and movies.
Which city are they in? Birmingham? Yeah. It's got a little Philly in it.
Yeah. It's like the Philly of England.
A little grit. Okay.
Hank. This one I think about saying every year around Christmas time when the debate happens, die hard.
I had that on my list. I had that on my list.
It's a good movie. Never seen it.
Good movie. I don't know if it's a Christmas movie or not because I've never seen it.
Have you seen any of them? No. The Vengeance? I just know there's a tower because they put it in Call of Duty one year.
Okinawa Tower or whatever. Yeah, Die Hard 1 is awesome.
Awesome. Awesome.
So good. And I know that Snape from Harry Potter, I believe is the bad guy of diehard well they don't know snape so yeah that i don't know there's nothing yeah is snape the hat they don't they don't know harry potter and we don't know diehard what's wrong with harry potter like a hat tells you where you have to go to school i guess guess that's what people do on National Signing Day.
It's a sorting hat. All right, so my last pick, I'm going to go back to the TV show.
All I know about this show is that people were really pissed at the end, but I've never seen a second of Lost. I had that on my list, too, yeah.
Not a second of Lost. I also only watched that in school.
Your school played Lost for you?

We watched the first season, yeah.

I know the premise was awesome.

Which school did you go to?

I forget what classes were.

This was in high school.

How hungover were your teachers?

Yeah, dude.

Every day we'd go into class and watch Lost.

It was sick.

No, Lost is great.

That was the first show I ever binged.

I got Netflix when I was in high school,

and I learned that you could binge TV shows. That was the first one I ever binged.
I stayed up to like 4 a.m. every day watching it.
What grade did you get in that class? Probably like a C. In the Lost class? It was an elective, and I forget what the premise even was.
We watched Lost, and we watched the Bear documentary. Oh, Chris.
Oh, the guy who got eaten? This class sounds awesome. You just watched a ton of TV.
I think Hank's teacher was just hungover every day. Was it like a psych class? It was an elective.
I forget what the premise of the elective was, but it was a great, great class. It was me and, like, I don't know why.
I just remember it was me and a lot of females were in the class. There wasn't any other guys.
I like that. That rocks for you.
Look at that female. Nice job, Hank.
That's sick, dude. All right, what do you guys got? Let's do a brain dump.
I had Star Trek. I've never seen a movie or a TV show of Star Trek.
I don't even feel bad about that. Yeah, no, that's a nerd.
If somebody were to ask me, like, are you a Star Wars guy or a Star Trek guy? I would immediately say Star Wars, despite the fact I've never seen any of them. Yeah.
Rick and Morty. Same.
Had that on my list. I've seen a couple episodes.
Rick and Morty, people come up to me all the time and they're like, dude, you would love Rick and Morty. They want me.
They get mad that I haven't seen them. Yeah.
I had Mad Men. Yep.
I had Mad Men. Mad Men.
I started that, but I couldn't put it in good faith because I think I've watched two episodes. I tried to watch the first episode, got about 20 minutes in.
I was like, there's something else going on. I texted my wife just to tell me, what haven't I seen? Because there's so many times where she's watching a show and I'm watching sports.
But she wrote West Wing, Downton Abbey, Mad Men, Friday Night Lights. Oh, Friday Night Lights.
I've never seen Friday Night Lights. It's a football show.
I saw the movie. Yeah, it's like loosely a football show.
No, you've got to watch Friday Night Lights. Videlberg is going to kill you.
Yeah, I know. I had never seen Friday Night Lights until like two years ago when I watched the first couple episodes.
It seems like it's going to be a good show. Dexter.

Dexter.

You're still getting through it?

Yeah.

Boardwalk Empire, Yellowstone,

Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter.

Lord of the Rings, you should have said.

Homeland.

Lord of the Rings is a big one.

Lord of the Rings is a massive one.

Homeland.

Just watch the first two seasons of Homeland.

Yeah, so those are all the ones I haven't seen.

She just brained them. She was like, here you go.
All these popular shows. Yeah.
Okay. I've never saw Indiana Jones and House of Cards.
Those were the two that, the big ones. Should I pick Lord of the Rings over Lost? I think so.
I don't know which one's bigger. I think so.
You have Lord of the Rings and Star Wars. Lord of the Rings is a banger.
Lost? I don't even know. I've never even thought about even looking at Lord of the Rings.
That's how uninterested I am in it. I think the second movie is like three and a half hours long.
It's never even crossed my mind to be like, oh, I should check this thing out. I know there's a hobbit and a ring.
So probably the reason why Big Cat took Lost is the same reason I was thinking about taking Lost, which is when that show came out oh yeah it was massive it was all you talked about and you had you had weeks between episodes so you would just fill in your school week or your work week just talk with people about like what do you think is going to happen where are they so it was like a big part of of life in the early 2000s yeah just talking about loss yeah that was big by the way hank we thought I thought you were going to say The Office. Mm-hmm.
I thought you were going to say that you'd never seen The Office. Yeah, we thought you'd never seen The Office.
That's like the only show I've watched. Oh.
Why did that rumor start? I love The Office. Oh, we literally were convinced you'd never seen The Office.
That's Shane. Shane's never seen The Office.
Shane's never seen any of this. Shane's never seen the show.
Shane never had a television show. I think there's people that watch The Office in real time and then people that watch it after the fact.
I've done both. Same, but I was watching it in real time, too.
Yeah, I was watching it in real time. The episode after the Super Bowl was one of the most iconic episodes of all time.
The rumor started that you had not seen The Office. We were just sitting around being like, how did you not see The Office? I might continue to believe that.
I mean, Parks and Rec have only seen a couple episodes but i have seen a couple episodes have you seen seinfeld a million times i had the seinfeld seinfeld dvds office dvds were like the two shows i had on dvd i've watched every episode like a million times people in the office are chatting they're saying that you've never seen the office or seinfeld bro let's go head to head i'll take you all maybe not big cap you all. Maybe not Big Cat, but I think I could go head-to-head with anyone in this office on...

On The Office?

I have no idea.

Michael Scott Office.

I stopped watching after he left.

D'Angelo Vickers was pretty good.

Yeah, like sometimes I'll go, I'll be scrolling TV,

and then I'll turn an episode.

I'm like, I haven't seen this, and it's because Michael Scott left.

What was Dwight's cousin's name?

Moe's.

You have seen it.

You're good. Yeah.
Also wrote the show. I have no idea what was andy's uh acapella group called the oh i got this one what the fuck is it's the someone with the mascot no was it here comes trouble here comes trouble i didn't know at first Oh, yeah.
I didn't know. At first, I asked that question.
I was like, wait, am I thinking of Pitch Perfect? Can you name one of his co-singers in Here Comes Trouble? Yes. Broccoli Rob.
Broccoli Rob. Yep.
Great show. Great show.
Great show. Hank, I don't think you've ever seen The Office.
Can we go see The Godfather together? I can't wait. Yeah.
Yeah. I really want to see it.
Which one should I start with? One. Okay.
I think everyone should have to do one of these. Yeah.
One of these. I'll do all the Fast and Furiouses.
And should we, we should do a recap. I'm screwed.
I don't have, I don't have anything I can watch. I'll do Gladiator.
I guess. Gladiator.
I have 10 movies, seven movies, a show that was syndicated and on for 15 years. And how many seasons of Lost were there? So many.
What's the best Fast and the Furious? Because I feel like you can jump into Fast and the Furious at any moment. Yeah, just do one Fast and the Furious.
Probably the When I See You Again. I like Fast Five.
Okay. I've only seen the first two, I think.
I tried to do a thing where I would binge Fast and the Furious like it was a TV show, and then I stopped after, I think, movie three. Yeah.
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Derek, first of all, thank you for joining us. Absolutely.
We appreciate it. Let's start.
Let's ease in with some golf. How are we feeling about the golf? Golf, the game is nice right now.
Okay. I don't know what that means because you could wake up in golf and it could be terrible again.
Right. Right.

So we'll see how the weekend goes.

But I feel confident.

Yeah.

Golf's a weird sport where, for me at least, sometimes when I wake up and I feel great,

I play terribly.

When I wake up and I feel awful, I go out there and I just play really well.

So I don't know.

It probably says more about me mentally than anything else.

Definitely.

For sure.

But, yeah, so what's the expectation this week?

What would you be happy with?

Expectation, top 10. That's the expectation.
Oh, wow. I've gotten better every year.
Top 20 last year. Oh, you're a stick.
I mean, play quarterback. Yeah.
We have to be. Yeah, that's true.
It's pitchers and quarterbacks. Pitchers and quarterbacks.
We have to be. Yeah.
And so hopefully top 10 and then try and, you know, if you got a chance on the last day, go and win it. Yeah.
How's the body feeling because you i think you broke the record for most injuries last year what was the full list full list oh man two concussions some stuff about my shoulder that we'll just it was jacked up okay jacked up shoulder jacked up shoulder uh and then two two different broken ribs oh my god how many ribs have you broke in your career oh i think i'm up to five five or six nobody will ever break the record for for drew breeze that broke a lot of ribs that year on that one on one hit yeah yeah oh my god yeah and then just like being a rotational athlete like you i did one then it got better and i did the other one but like you imagine doing that many at once. I know.
And still trying to throw is, like, that's miserable.

So how long after the season ended did you feel like you were back to 100%?

Or maybe the answer is you're not yet.

No, I definitely – I feel 100% going into camp.

So that's awesome.

Okay.

I was able to do everything.

My shoulder didn't feel good until, like, probably when we were coming back in in April.

That one, it just took a while.

Yeah. You know, that one just took a while.
But they told me it was going to take a while but it is what it is yeah I think Big Cat mentioned this to you when he mentioned yesterday but we were we were feeling for you last year and you were the most injured quarterback and we were just not because we had anything against you we were like Derek please take a seat for a week so that Jameis can get in we just want Jame One week in Jameis. So he does seem like the best locker room guy ever.
Jameis is one of the greatest teammates I've ever had in my life. Like, there would be things, like if I said something back, hey, like this, man, he was like times 10 louder.
And like, hey, he needs it like this. And like just as a quarterback, you know, you're walking, I walked into a situation where, you know, he was their guy, you know, and who knows what happened the year before? I didn't pay much attention to it, but I know it was tough on him.
Now I'm walking into that situation, so who knows what it's going to be like. The organization wants to go in a different direction, all this kind of stuff.
He blew my mind on just the kind of person he was. I love him as a player.
We all love watching him because he does not care. No.
And it's like, you know you're going to watch something exciting. Whether it be good or bad, it's going to be exciting.
It's going to be exciting. Someone's band's going to play.
We just don't know which one sometimes. But the one thing I love about Jameis is he doesn't get enough credit for just how good of a player he is because he is hilarious.
He is a funny teammate. He has all the sound bites and all that, like the memes galore, right? But he's a great player, but he's just one of the greatest people.
Yeah. And you guys know that.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So you have an interesting career because your older brother, David, gets drafted number one overall, goes to the Texans.
I think he broke the record for most sacks taken. Still has it.
Still has it. Sam didn't take it from last year? I know it was like neck and neck for a while.
still has it still has it it was an expansion team by the way too so it's like an impossible spot to get into you're what like a teenager when you're watching all this was there any moment where you're watching it like football might not be for me because this i mean you have to see like you're sitting there and you're like i feel for my brother because he's just put in a terrible spot absolutely you know just as, just as a, you know, I'm just a kid. I'm like, I'm pretty good at basketball.
Yeah. Right.
I'm a good shortstop. And, you know, but like at the end of the day, I knew what I was just blessed and called to do, you know, football was just, it just came easy to me.
And so like, I'm watching that and I was like, well, what a great opportunity for me to learn. Yeah.
And I remember Reggie McKenzie, our GM with the Raiders, he said said the reason I wanted to pick you so bad was you lived you know a very difficult thing to watch right and you got and your brother taught you you were there with him like you were at his house every day right and my brother just grew me taught me everything he could you know got me around all the guys and and so like football at that point it was like that path looks so easy. Yeah.
You know, obviously it's not.

But, you know, just it looked normal.

Right.

You know.

Right.

How hard was it, though?

Because, you know, we're fans.

We sit on the couch.

A guy gets sacked.

We're like, get up.

Like, you know, like, come on, pussy, get up. But it's your brother.

And your family is watching this and he's going through basically literal torture.

Yeah.

Was it just, like, agonizing at times to watch, you you know him try to make it in the NFL and have that go down yeah you know the hardest part for me was like I didn't understand the why yet because you know I'm just 15 16 years old I'm sitting there watching it I don't know why you know I don't know what the protection I don't know what's going on and the hardest part was watching like my mom my grandma and like his wife. Like that was the hardest part for me just as, you know, we have a close family.
We all love each other so dearly and deeply. And so I felt like their emotions, you know.
Like watching his wife go through, I'm like, golly, like she's like a nervous wreck every game because like is he going to be okay after this? It wasn't like are we going to win? It was like I just want him to be intact. Yeah yeah just try not to get sacked more than five times 100 but you want to talk about like I always prided myself on being a tough tough tough football player play through anything all that like some of the stuff that he went through like I was like that's where I learned it yeah but I didn't I haven't had to deal with some of the stuff he did but you know thankfully but watching it was hard but it also gave me confidence to know like all right I you know he's like teaching me protections you know if you maybe if you're not so good here you know this is a way to fix that yeah so it's a really good learning lesson it's also I would imagine like difficult because the NFL and all pro sports a lot of it is the situation like where you end up and who you're around and and the situation that you're put in like

was it difficult for him to watch that and be like if i had just been drafted a little bit differently different team different circumstance things could have gone a different way for me yeah you know like he he won't say it but like for me watching now that i know what was going on i can go back and watch his games i'm like holy crap you know like i know what i'm seeing and you know I go back and I'm like, dude, like he's, he's way more talented than I am.

Yeah.

He's 240 you know runs a 4-6 throws the ball 85 yards like genius smart it's like when he went to New York and he was with Eli like it was really cool he's like I got an organization with like a great team great system great defense all this kind of stuff he's like I'd go in the game and go right down the field. It was easy.
Right. You know? Right.
He's like, I never felt football like that since college. Right.
And so, yeah, of course, you think like, man, what if he was in a different situation? Yeah. You know? So it'll never happen.
But it's a tough one to deal with, yeah, because you just have to sit there and be like, what if? It's interesting because where he got drafted, you ended up moving, the family moved to Texas, right? And so you played high school football in Texas for a little bit. The fact that he's on the Texans, I know how seriously they take high school football down there.
Oh, man. You get like a period in your school day dedicated to football.
That's right. The fact that he was with the Texans might have made you a better quarterback just because of the environment that you got to play in, which is kind of crazy to think about.
Yeah, 100%. Like I got got to play against, you know, Houston especially, you know, Texas 5A football.
Like, it was insane. You know, we're going against, we played one team, had 11 D1 dudes just on their defense.
And you're like, you know, that's, you're not going to get that competition in Fresno. Yeah.
No offense, but that's my hometown. But I was like, you're not going to get that.
So it absolutely helped. And then being able to, you know, throw routes to Andre Johnson wasn't bad.
That doesn't hurt Johnson wasn't bad that doesn't hurt either that's a fair point and one thing your brother's really good at he uh he is the number one Derek Carr defender it's true at your back and it's good to have family in your corner like that and he will go after anyone that says anything bad about you when you were uh when you were growing up and he was in the league yeah I know you don't listen to your own media you know you got to try to like tune out and listen to good or bad yeah yeah it's rat poison right even if it's good it's like just false sense of security but um when you're growing up and your brother's in the league yeah are you listening to are you listening to what the media is saying about him and then are you like calling up sports talk radio shows you're like hey this is derrick from sugarland you shut your mouth about david no you know what's funny is like back then media was so different. Y'all remember like it was like blogs, you know.
I'm not going on a website to look at a blog. You actually have to like opt into it.
Yeah, you have to like choose. I need to see this.
And so for me, it was just newspaper. But I'm a teenager.
I'm not reading the newspaper. Right, right.
And even like the team, like I would play against people people and they would just think it was cool that your brother was in the nfl yeah you know and so like i never i never had to deal with anything i don't like what he dealt with or his wife you know with but like for me as a kid like it was just like my brother's in the nfl i got sick yeah yeah yeah and then you have another brother right dude yeah he's he's the one who blocks everyone on twitter oh he's i love that he's ride or die he's aggressive yeah i think we're all blocked his fuse yeah his fuse is about this big uh he's like six six three hundo you know benches 450 so it's like he i mean he can do whatever he wants yeah and he just he patrols the streets for you do you know that like that he just has everyone blocked i didn't know that he had everybody blocked but which is hilarious yeah no i i it's like the most ride or die thing that i love i mean it's like yeah it's your brother like of course he's gonna block anyone who says shit about you of course yeah and i'll take him blocking someone rather than him reacting because there's times like where he'll react i'm like bro it doesn't matter bro like yeah like they're doing a job like at the end of the day like if i saw him they'd probably what's up there but what's up you know right right and so i was like bro don't like don't react to him but like for for me to say that to him i'm still little brother so he's like yeah bro like shut up yeah right right now it's probably a good time to bring this up then uh you actually blocked me on twitter oh i did yeah and so what was it about well so i i did some research because when you uh i'm not blocked when you left checked yeah you left the Raiders and then you posted like a goodbye statement.

Okay.

And then the guy sent that

in the group chat.

They're like,

hey, Derek Carr just said goodbye.

Yeah.

I couldn't see it.

And I was like,

oh, what's going on?

He's got me blocked.

So Hank looked it up.

We did this live on PMT

like three years ago.

Yep.

So you tweeted out,

this is like seven years ago.

Okay.

Those who control their tongue

will have a long life.

Opening your mouth

can ruin everything. Yeah.
And I i replied are you talking about herpes so i think that's a fair reply right yeah that is yo that's so funny that's a fair reply yeah so i think that's what it did it but i maybe you just saw herpes and you were like block maybe yeah because like that doesn't seem like something i'd block you for usually honestly if i block you it's probably something to do someone said something about my teammate my team or me yeah because i and it has nothing to do like i had this this one dude with the raiders like media he was like you blocked me i'm like you probably said something stupid yeah right and i just don't want someone to like it or what and i see it right i said it hasn't nothing is it's freaking social media it's not personal right but i was like my mindset is like i know i'm emotional so i have to defend myself to get away from that yeah and so i don't know i don't think the herpes thing would have got me yeah um it could have been something else but this is the one interaction i think that we had uh but i'm totally fine with you blocking me i think it's probably good for you to block me you don't need to true. I'm very dumb.
Yeah. If everyone in this room is agreeing, I probably should agree with you.
Yeah, yeah. Just keep me blocked.
Yeah, yeah. Keep them blocked.
You should do that at the Rookie Symposium. Just put out like a list of people.
Block all the aggregators. Block PFT commentary.
If I'm not blocked, so if PFT has something he wants to tweet at you, he can tell me, and then I'll be like, this is coming from PFT. I think that's a great way to do that.
Yeah, and then you can that and I'll get blocked yeah that's fine I don't care yeah that's hilarious I mean you you you said it you you are emotional which I feel like everyone has always been like Derek Carr is one of the best teammates and like he's the heartbeat of the team especially with everything you guys went through that Raiders season coaches you know the was it Ruggs oh yeah yeah I blanked his i blanked his name for a sec sorry yeah um do you think too that maybe because your uh eyebrows and your eyelashes are a little dark people think you're wearing mascara everybody like i can try have you ever worn mascara never is a better way to ask never once in my life are you sure try and prove it to you yep there's nothing there nothing coming off is it tattoo on? No. I have a lot of tattoos, but no.
Do you realize that sometimes it looks like you're wearing mascara? Absolutely. My whole life I had to deal with that.
I used to get made fun of when I was a kid. It was my mom's fault because she prayed that I'd have these bright blue eyes.
I was like, well, God maybe just made my eyelashes darker so my eyes look better. Yeah, right.
Mom, that's really your fault. Yeah, that is.
I get made fun of all the of all the freaking time bro i'm like i don't know how else to prove it to everybody i think you should start wearing mascara because then it's actually ridiculous yeah right like then everyone's like what like yeah oh it looks like derrick carr wears mascara it's like yeah i do oh yeah what are you gonna say now oh yeah i got the whole goth thing yeah the whole i was like bro like i don't know how else to react yeah i did think that you were the first goth quarterback when you got drafted. Yeah, I expected you to show up wearing a cannibal corpse shirt and just sulking around all the time.
Gruden would have had a lot of fun with that. Gruden used to tell me, that's what brings it up, is he'd be like, we'd have a bad game or we'd lose.
He'd look at me with his little growl and be like, you love the misery. I't i really don't love the misery yeah i mean he's an all-time football guy i would imagine he's uh he gave it to you guys a lot i'm sure absolutely you know what people don't know about him is like one everyone on our team loved him yeah hands down he he came out and told us everything he said this is what i said this is what guys.
Like, hopefully you know me by now, how I feel about you.

And we were like, okay.

And we went on with our day.

We didn't know it was going to lead to what it led to.

Yeah.

And then I guess when you call the commissioner certain things,

it's probably not going to end well.

Yeah, I'll tie football.

It's probably not going to end well.

That was kind of a cool line, though.

Yeah.

Not going to lie.

But he just, like, he would obviously rip everybody.

He would tell me going out to practice, he's like, look,

I'm going to cuss you out because I need to cuss somebody else out and they need to see the quarterback getting ripped. I'd be like, absolutely, dude.
Like, I don't care. Would he ever go like extra when you're like, all right, it's okay.
He would keep going and I'd be like, all right, bro. You better be squabbling.
We did it. We cussed out.
Yeah, you proved your point. He was great because like he – as you guys see like all the clips of him doing that to guys, like, there's not enough clips of how much he would love on a guy and encourage him.
Yeah. Like, any free agent we would sign, veteran, he would put, like, clips of them up in the team meeting, and he'd show, like, their three best plays.
And he'd just be like, look at this dude. You're going to play your best football for me.
This is what we're going to do. And I'm going to put you in position.
And,, all of a sudden, everyone's like, I'll run through a wall for this guy. You know, so he just, he doesn't get enough credit for that side of him.
Yeah. Yeah.
Would he just walk around muttering to himself like spider two, wide banana? Oh, yeah. Spider two, wide banana.
Jeff Leonardo is like one of his like closest friends, okay? And what Jeff Leonardo would do is any saying he would have or a play that he always said, he'd make shirts. So we'd come in one day and there'd just be like a picture of a spider to and a banana yeah and so every day it just he would have sayings he would literally be mumbling them to himself and the next day jeff would have a shirt with it i love it it was great he loved running spider two wide banana absolutely that was one of our favorites was there ever a time where like all right maybe this doesn't call for spider two wide banana coach oh you know what's crazy with him is he's the king of that play he called it like i want to say we were like 100 on that play yeah you can't work spam it yeah he's like he's playing madden he's just spamming a play over and over we used to do the wide banana the corner then we would do like the little hide one you know you'll see like that you've looked this way and then throw it to the guy wide open yeah we hit that play i'm not kidding you i was like there's no way it's gonna work like four weeks in a row right and it was open every time that's crazy oh yeah and you can't shake off spider 2 wide banana you can't be like no we're not running that that'll be in every playbook for the rest of my life yeah yeah i imagine that you got to spend some time with john madden as well i didn't get time just family members but okay which is it sucks yeah him and kenny stabler like i met kenny stabler's family but never got time with him yeah okay yeah the uh the other all-time football guy you you played with or played for I know it wasn't your full career but Pat Hill yes is my favorite we actually have a gambling trophy named after Pat Hill do you really yes because I love that I mean in his anytime anyplace anywhere Fresno State teams where he'd be like yeah'd be like, yeah, we'll go play Oregon.
Then we'll go play FSU. Then we'll go play USC.
The best. So what was like the recruiting process? Obviously, he knew you because of your brother.
But like, was it a no-brainer that you were going to go play for Pad Hill? Yeah, like. Your dad offered you too, right? No.
No, no. So he called my dad.
All right, okay recruited so i was in houston and i was getting recruited like starting in freshman football by everybody you know i was like what you know i didn't see this in california so i'm getting recruited i'm getting offered i'm starting to get well pat calls my dad he's like hey i'm this was my junior year he's like hey i'm checking on dave how's dave doing you know because dave's not gonna answer his phone you know right that was dave doing and my dad was like oh dave's doing great but derek's waiting for you to call him and as you could tell he pat was probably saying a few words that little mfr i didn't know he wanted to come to us and uh he offered me like through my dad my dad's like hey fresno offered i was like what and i wanted to commit right away because like the whole time like i just love that city I love the ramp like I was

like I want to get my name up there next to Dave's like I'd just be like what a cool thing that would be like just for our family right you know and uh and like he was like I called him the next day I was like I'm coming he's like okay good don't tell anybody because when we get good players to commit to us like USC offers like it I was like man screw that you know I told him and sure enough if USC showed up the next day at my school, like all this.

Like you sure?

Yeah. You sure you want to?

Yeah.

No. USC offers.
I was like, man, screw that. I told him, and sure enough, USC showed up the next day at my school, like all this.
Like you sure? Yeah, you sure you want to? Yeah. No, I was like, I'm going to Fresno, so it worked out.
He's an all-time football guy. He's my favorite.
Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
What was he like just like day to day? You'll love this. So this is like perfect Pat Hill.
He's aggressive. Yeah.
What you see is what you get. But I'll never forget two stories.
My freshman year, we kept dropping snaps because I was in the shotgun my whole center year. So I got to learn how to play under center.
Well, I drop a snap, and he goes, that's it. Get in here.
And he gets down, grabs the ball with two hands like this. He's like, get in here.
And he's only wearing grays. I'm like, bro, it was the nastiest snap I ever took in my life.
But I got the snap and then he think, and then right there, he's like, that solved all the problems. So we did that.
And then like later in that practice, I remember it was my first practice and I go to take a snap and like nine on seven or half line run. And I say, and they snapped it too soon.
And I break my finger and it's like out like this. I put it back in.
He's like, time to learn how to be tough. Get back in there.
So, man, I went back in there, broken finger. I handed the ball off right-handed all day, but that was Pat's way of pushing you to become a man, and he did that for sure.
And it was great. Those Fresno teams, he basically was like, we're not afraid of anyone.
We know we're not on the same level talent-wise, but it doesn't matter. We'll go play football.
And it's beautiful. Yeah.
And it worked for him. Yeah.
And hopefully we can bring that back someday. Yeah.
And talk about spamming plays. There's probably a lot of like Devontae's down there somewhere.
Yes, absolutely. Especially with some of the people we were playing.
We played one team and literally at the coin toss. This was me and tay were like at our peak uh before the game we're throwing routes and the coaches are like we have no chance i threw a ball from like the back 40 like threw it 60 or 70 yards hit the goalposts like they're like we have no chance come out to the coin toss and like they had a couple dbs and i like but please take it easy on us it's a college football game i believe it, yeah.
Yeah, you guys were electric. What was the scouting process like for the NFL coming out of Fresno? Did you have to answer questions about, like, why did you go to a small school? Because I know they, like, lean on you on that stuff.
Like, they're trying to find any bit of mental weakness that you have. Yeah, 100%.
And, like, they picked on that a lot. Like, you didn't play against good competition.
How are you going to play against the NFL? And then you would have to be like, I mean, I did play against good. This guy's in the league.
I played Bobby Wagner. All these guys.
And so I was like, I understand I didn't play in the SEC, but this was my choice to go to a school I love. And hopefully that just proves my loyalty and what I'll do for a team.
Was Mark Davis involved in those conversations? I never talked to Mark, not before. Not before.
Just Dennis Allen and Greg Olson. He seems like the coolest guy ever.
Yeah. Have you ever gone to P.F.
Chang's with him? I never went to P.F. Chang's, but he was there every day.
Yeah, I know. That's our dream is to go to P.F.
Chang's with Mark Davis. He would absolutely.
Yeah. He has to do that.
I know. He's there, so it's easy for him.
Right. We should just show up.
Yeah, honestly. Drives a little van around.
Drives a little van. He's got a little mini coupe.
He's got a lot of cars. Yeah.
Yeah. But that guy, he's, I'll tell you this, man.
Like, Mark was, Mark has been and will always be. He's been so good to me.
You know, he is, like, the biggest critic of his football team. But at the same time, nobody loves him more.
You know what I mean? Right. And so, yeah, sure, there's times where he's probably super frustrated with me with me you know why didn't we do this what but he just wants to understand because he didn't come like from that football like you know coaching background right and so he just wants to understand the why yeah and so you know as he keeps surrounding himself you know Tom's there now in the ownership and it looked like Seymour may join and all that like as he keeps surrounding himself with like football people and all that and understanding that the process and that,

I think that they'll have more success.

Yeah.

And he also is just swaggy as hell.

I freaking love it.

The white jeans.

All white is such a good look.

Oh, yeah.

And the haircut.

Yeah.

I mean, it's a crazy haircut.

He's the only one in the world who can pull it off.

He told me.

He's like, so when I signed my first contract with him,

he's like, I'm going to buy you a car. I was like, all right, sick.
Like,

do I need to take it out of the deal? He's like, no, don't even worry about it. You know,

Ferrari got you. I was like, sick, man.
Cause we always talk about cars together.

And so he's like, I'm coming over. So he comes over and he pulls out this car about this big.

So Ferrari's like, got it for your kids. I already gave you enough money.

I was like, but it was, I was like, this dude's awesome. Yeah.
That's a good prank. Would he get his hair cut in the facility? Never saw that.
Okay. I'd love to just be there to watch his hair.
He might cut his own hair. He could.
I know that there's one person that does it and wherever that, he flies them in. I do know that.
That's perfect. Yeah, we need to get P.F.
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Speaking of teammates, what was your favorite memory of Antonio Brown? That week? Was it a week? So me and AB, I loved AB. Yeah.
You know, I loved AB. Even at the end, like, he was like, you know, Derek Carr, good dude, but couldn't handle AB.
And I was like, you know what? You're probably right. Like, wait, that also is, like, kind of telling on himself.
Like, couldn't handle AB. It's like, well, dude, like, could you just tone it down? You're probably right.
And I was waiting for him to say something crazy because I something crazy because I got like – this is when I got mad at Pat McAfee, actually, because Pat was like, hey, B probably couldn't get the ball in practice and probably just wanted to leave. And I was like, bro, I got about 40 clips of I thought I was going to win MVP that year.
Yeah, getting him the ball. Oh, my gosh.
I was like this. He's the hardest practicing player I've ever seen in my life.
Yeah. And he he competes at just a different level and you know hopefully he's a hall of famer like as a player he's a yeah or insane yeah insane yeah um and I I love my time with him I let him borrow my car you know like when he was in town like he came out like it's like a little three four seater Mercedes like eight people come jumping out of it to come film I was was like, I freaking love this.
And it was only – was it like two weeks? We had – well, it depends. Like into camp I think it was two weeks.
Yeah, yeah. But he had signed before.
So we had him in the off season. So we had a lot of time together throwing.
But my man, there's so many freaking stories. Yeah.
I mean the hard knocks is like – it was just an electric hard knocks. My favorite part of that is like you want to see my feet like i would love to see your feet i need you out at practice yeah i'll never forget he came he comes out to practice the first time after all that he comes out in training camp he runs a post corner and usually we run the post corner and we want him flat at about you know 25 30 yards this man runs a post corner and takes off to the back pylon I'm like oh crap I had to throw this thing like 70 yards he just runs it down catches it ah it goes like this and to nobody yeah yeah wow he comes running back he's like let's go again he said throw me a go he goes over there runs a go route I launched this go route he freaking takes off touchdown I'm like I'm looking at grew I'm like bro I'm I might throw for 6 000 yards yeah him waller all these yeah yeah right crap yeah and then his trainer comes out yeah ab's done today i was like okay yeah i was like perfect he's showing off just get him to sunday yeah right right you got a buried delete on that though did you ever see his feet uh i did see his feet were they were they messed up they were messed up wait how do you get frostbite again like in a cryo bathroom.
Maybe wet socks in a cryo, which I did not know that was a thing. Yeah, I didn't either.
I've never heard anybody tell me that, so I'm glad I didn't walk in there and do that. There was the sock thing.
There was the hot air balloon. Hot air balloon was awesome.
It was great. He had the helmet.
He didn't like his helmet. Didn't like his helmet.
Tried to fight Mike Mayock. Yes.
Okay, so. It was like the most impactful two weeks ever.
He was really heard from. I thoroughly, I'll say this, like, I really enjoyed my time.
Like, you sit down one-on-one, you have a great conversation. Like, he is awesome.
Yeah. But then he'll do something that's just hilarious.
Yeah. And everyone would, like, come to me, like, Derek, can you go talk to him? I was like, bro, just let him be.
Yeah, right. If that's the biggest knock on your career that you couldn't handle AB I think I like that that's the line where you're like yeah you know I'm gonna agree with the media on this one I was like you know what I couldn't get it done yeah you know what you're probably I failed you yeah I'm sorry yeah I did my best you do seem like the best teammate ever and and we give you a lot of credit for the way things shook out in Las Vegas uh I'll just say because you won't say you're too nice Josh McDaniels was a snake and the way that whole thing went down was it was very snake-like and you just put your best face forward and then you have an opportunity to go out and kind of select your next team yeah Saints are talking to you the Jets are talking to you right yep so with the Jets thing that was weird because you had to know they were also they wanted Aaron Rodgers right yeah yeah? Yeah.
Yeah. And the thing which was different in that situation, like, you know, Aaron's a nine

billion time MVP, right?

And all that kind of stuff.

But you still have to trade for him.

Whereas I'm free, you know, and you can still keep those picks.

You can still, I'm not, I was not asking for as much money as whatever your market,

whatever they say your market is. Like, I was like, I don't want to do that because I want because wherever I go, man, I just want to win.
And so use the money. I don't care.
And so that situation, I remember sitting there with Salah. He's like, look, man, we'd love to have you.
It's up to you. I was like, I would love to make that decision right now because Robert Salah is, he is like, I am probably his biggest fan.
I absolutely 10 out of 10 love him, would run through a wall for him, even if he's not my coach. I'd still like, if he was like, I need you to do this, yes, sir.
Like I would do it. Yeah.
And so like that whole situation, that was the hardest thing because my brother knew Coach Sala and he was like, he knew I loved New Orleans, but he's like, you're going to see Sala. He was like, you're probably going to stay.
Yeah. Like he was like thinking I was going to sign because of because of Sala and I remember going there and I was like I promised myself I had to go through the process because I didn't want to sign and then think well what did that team think right or what could they do right and so that was hard but yeah I mean it was it was a weird situation but at the same time like trading for Aaron wasn't a guarantee yeah you know for them you know at that time yeah so you could have made the decision right then.
It was in your court.

They were like, we want you to be the quarterback. I could have, yeah.
I could have. But it just wasn't the right time for me because there was still like four or five teams that I had to hear from.
Right. And so it ended up working out really for both of us.
Yeah. So then you go to New Orleans.
How long after you became a Saint did you actually start hating the Bucs? It didn't take me long because literally, like, they talk about the Bucs and the Falcons. Falcons, obviously.
Yeah. Like, I was like, well, I was like, what about the Panthers? You know? Yeah, right.
But, like, the Falcons and the Bucs, like, in our building and, like, around town, like, there's, like, a real hatred. Oh, yeah.
For some Southern really kind people. Yeah.
They really hate those teams. Yeah.
The Bucs, yeah, the Bucs Saints games. I feel like there's been a million fights, hatred.
Oh, yeah. For some Southern really kind people, they really hate those teams.
Yeah. The Bucs-Saints games, I feel like there's been a million fights too.
Oh, yeah. Especially Marshawn.
I know. Yeah.
With Latz competitive. So him and Mike, they'd be getting after him.
Always. You can pencil that in.
Like Mike Evans probably will get ejected in the second quarter of this game. Yeah.
It's crazy because I know the fans – I think if you were to ask Saints fans, they would say they hate the Falcons. That's the big one.

But in terms of on-the-field stuff that we've seen, it's been Saints, Bucs,

just like World War II.

Oh, yeah.

I think there's some deep personal stuff there where people are just like,

I just hate that man.

When we come in that week and you're like, all right, Sean, you got Mike,

it's like he just blacks out for five days. You're like, oh, he'll be ready on Sunday.
Yeah, he's ready to go. Yeah.
What do you think the media gets wrong about Derek Carr? Oh, I don't know. Yeah.
Or like what do you – yeah, like, you know, there's definitely perception about every guy. Yeah.
But it's always good. I always like to give people a chance to be like, hey, look, like this is who I am.
This is what I'm about that people get wrong about me. You know, it's always good i always like to give people a chance be like hey look like this is who i am this is what i'm about that people get wrong about me you know it's hard like i know it sounds so silly but like i really have done my best especially the last few years like i just don't read or yeah you know i try and block all that out but for me like i can tell you like about me like i'm i absolutely work my tail off i've tried from the beginning to be someone that kids could look at and be like he does things the right way yeah you know like he he grinds he's maxed out whatever God gave him you know and he's gonna be a great teammate and he's gonna play consistent hopefully good football yeah you know and I think I think um you know the way with the Raiders how it ended and stuff like that you know the one thing I can't get rid of is on Instagram, these people put these lists out of quarterback rankings.
Yeah, I hate those people. Those people are the worst.
No, we're not going to look at ours. I don't know what it was.
We would Dak at 17 just to piss people off. We do them as trolls, and it's so much fun.
And my brother actually does the same thing, too. Yeah, right.
He'll be like, yeah, Joe Montana is not one of the greatest, though you know like people just start yeah they go they get people get mad about quarterbacks 100 and so I think like I think the disrespect of like you know some of the stuff I've been able to accomplish and like stuff I've put on film like even the last half of last year I was like bro I was the last half of last year was probably my best football I've played you know and you and, you know, 2016 MVP season that people want to talk about in this season.

And that's like, bro, like I feel like I'm going getting better.

Yeah, that's awesome.

I got comfortable.

I feel like I'm getting better.

I love my teammates.

And I don't know.

So I don't know what people are saying, but, like, I just feel like I'm still that guy.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah. I'm still that guy.

Yeah.

And, you know, none of it matters until you go prove it, you know know but we won nine games and we didn't really even play good yeah and so you guys it felt like it was always like one step forward one step back or two steps back kind of thing that's how it felt so hopefully you know we can just go out there and prove it you know that's what we want to do but I still feel like I'm at the you know at the best part of my game yeah so hopefully I can go out there and prove that I think we had you at 15, and I think we had Taysom Hill at 14. Taysom, Taysom.
Taysom's the best football player I've ever played with. He really is.
He's a jackknife. He does everything.
He's unbelievable. Not jackknife, Swiss Army knife.
Yeah, yeah. There we go.
So Ronald Curry, who is the greatest athlete of all time, I'll say that, was our quarterback coach last year. RC was like, bro, when Taysom runs the football, he sees red.
So I know that you're out there on the edge, probably wide open. He won't see you.
So we're playing in Carolina. I think it was Monday night football.
We're on the five-yard line. He runs a keeper right at me.
And I see my corner take off because they're like, they always talk about, don't touch anybody. Don't jam a finger for no reason.
So he takes off takes off and I slip and I'm open in the end zone

and I look at Taysom's face and for the nicest person in the world I looked at him as the most violent angry and he just puts his head down between like three dudes and pretty much trucked them all yeah and I was like dude that was like the most violent impressive thing I've ever seen yeah but he can do everything he could do everything throws runs catches fullback runs, catches, fullback, quarterback, tight end, receiver, slot. Blocks, punts.
Personal protector. Yeah.
I was like, I don't, just because of how stats work, I don't know how it'll work. But, like, that man is a Hall of Fame football player.
Because he does every, he's the true sense of a football player. He plays everything.
He really is. I love it.
He just looks at a linebacker, and then you just know he's going to run at that linebacker's face. That's it.
Like, I see a face, I'm going to run through the face. Yes.
I feel like Sean Payton was in love with him. Oh, yes.
Because he, like, had a weird man crush on him, right? Big time. Big time.
Big time. Oh, gosh, yes.
Big time. They, like, they taught.
I got nervous when I came, especially, like, I didn't know how we handled the cap situation in New Orleans. Somehow they always figure it out.
Yeah, they're always in cap. But somehow, all of a sudden, we're signing Chase Young.
I'm like, how did we just do that? But I was nervous. Oh, man, Sean's definitely going to try and trade for him or try and get him out.
But thankfully, I'm like, dude, please don't let Taysom go. That's my guy.
Don't let him go. Have you ever caught a touchdown? Not in the NFL.
I was wide open. Darren McFadden.
We ran a wildcat play my rookie year, and I'm wide open down the side, and he was throwing it, and it ended up getting tipped at the line of scrimmage. That would have been my one.
That would have been the one. So hopefully.
The other football guy we've got to talk about real quick because we're big fans of him is Rich Passaccia. Yes.
When he came into the locker room, was it just the vibe? Because, again, that was the season that everything could have gone wrong wrong went wrong for the raiders yeah but he like we wanted him to get the job he was he felt like such a football guy i would imagine it felt like that in the locker room like everyone's just rallying around this guy yeah man's man yeah yeah man's man uh cared just as much as he cared about us winning and all that he cared about you you as being a husband and a dad. And like two quick examples of him, like he, the whole Cleveland game, like gets postponed.
We don't know if we're taking our flight. Like we're about to get on the plane and they end up getting us off the plane.
So they end up postponing the game like two days. He's like, guys, next two days, take them off, rest your bodies.
And you get your mind right and prove to me that what I did was the right thing. We came out and we were like the most aggressive I've ever seen our team.
Like everyone did it because we didn't want to let them down for giving us those two days off, you know, which I was like two days off before a game. Right.
That's insane. Yeah.
You know, but crazy times, but he does that. And then the other thing he's like, you know what you need to do? He's like, you need to write a letter.
And he said, you need to start writing letters. And, you know, during this busy time and let your wife know how you feel about her.
And I was like, I was like, I'd like write a letter about like team, you know what, write a letter to your wife and just tell her, thank you. And he said, sometimes I'll do it and I'll put it in the mailbox for my wife.
So she'll find it whenever she checks me. I'm like, this guy is the most well-rounded all around person coach I've ever been've ever been around.
And so, like, he had the heart of our team. We all wanted him.
We all are like, okay, we have everything set. Now, Derek, go figure out how to get Tay here.
And we're good. And we'll just build on what we have.
And they ended up obviously making a different choice. Yeah, yeah.
They did. That was a bad choice.
Different vibes, for sure. They hired a snake.
For sure, different vibes. Yeah, so it must have been an interesting time for you guys.
The craziest game, maybe in the NFL, in terms of the way it was set up and what we almost saw happen was that game where you could have tied the Chargers, right? Yeah. Both teams could have gone to the playoffs.
Good memory. And it goes into overtime, right? Was it 29-29? Yeah, I think so.
Yeah. Was there ever any talk about maybe we just let the teams tie and everybody wins? So I think there probably was on the sideline, but in the huddle, they all of a sudden, like, so we had a third down and I hit Zay Jones on a bench route.
I remember I stepped up, hit Zay, and so I'm like, oh, here we go. Like, our mindset was like, go score.
This is a rival. Kick them out.
You know, like there was one of the most violent games I played too. Like it was everyone's battling for their life, basically.
And then we ran the ball. I think we ran it.
I'm like, wait, what's going on here? So I remember there was a timeout, and I walked over there. I was like, let's end the freaking game.
Send them home. Yeah.
I was like, even if we miss the kick, the worst thing that can happen is we get it blocked, and they run it back. Obviously, I get that.
But I was like, you got Carlson, who never misses, especially with the game on the line. I was like, let's just get in there, and let's run the football.
So then Josh ends up making a great run and getting us in position. And then they were like, all right down take the time out we'll kick it because there was a thought of if we just let the clock run out yeah we're all in yeah and pittsburgh would have hated that yep yeah um so i think a lot of fans would have hated that you guys did the right thing like you play to win yeah play to win yeah and and rich was that way too yeah so maybe they were talking about it but at the end he was like no beat them yeah let's go beat these guys yeah especially he gets to send his kicker out there.
It's his special teams. Yeah, that's true.
That's a good point. Let's do it that way.
Yeah. All right.
Well, Derek, this has been awesome. I have one last question.
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This has been so much fun. We really appreciate you sitting down with us.
How often, this is a tough question, how often have you watched the inadvertent whistle from the Bengals game? Oh, man, that was crazy. That's still, I watched it last night before this interview.
Yeah. And the whistle did come after Joe threw the ball, but it still is like the craziest thing because you can see everyone stop playing.
Yeah. And it's like, what the hell just happened? That one was hard because like it was, I mean, whoever won that game, just be honest, like we felt like it was set up for that team to have a good chance to get the Super Bowl.
Yeah. Just the way the seedings were and like where you had to play and all that kind of stuff and the matchups.
Right. And so for us, we're like, I sit back there and watch them like, what could have been? Yeah.
And the one that – I think the one that hurts the most is the last play to me is when I had to force the ball in there. It's the last play of the game, and I got to jam this ball in there, and it's like – even our coaches, I wish we just got everybody in the end zone on a certain play so we could read it out and try and give someone a one-on-one.
But I of those two plays like all the time when i'm working out yeah i'm like i'm gonna get back to that situation yeah you know and like it just it feels you you know you gotta find like i'm my my caddy who was my best friend he's like you're a psychopath because i'll make stories up like you talk about like i see jordan do that he's like i make stories out like yeah they thought i couldn't do this know, I'm like, he's like, bro, you're freaking weird. Those are two.
That's a game and that's a play. And the whistle thing, you're like, I got to get back there.
Yeah. You will.
Like a vision board. Just think about that.
Do you ever think about when you're working out, like getting way, way stronger in case you have to make a tackle like Mac Jones did when they did that double lateral against you guys. How crazy was that? That was nuts.
So I remember sitting there and, first of all, just being a Raider, and Raider fans know this, so I'm not being mean about it. We have lost in some crazy ways.
That's a fact. In the last 10 years plus, right? And I remember when he broke the line scrimmage and took off, I was like, there's no freaking way we're about to lose like this on a run where they're trying to run the clock out.
He threw that ball back in the air, which I've never seen before, and Chandler caught it. And I was like, there's no way Mack tackles him.
Chandler's arms are from here to there. Not a fair fight.
And when he broke that tackle, it was the craziest thing ever. But what I have learned is I hit mike mitchell in pittsburgh one time there was a fumble which was a blown whistle i didn't hear the whistle because it was so loud and he takes off i take off and i hit him as hard as i could which probably looked just normal yeah and my whole shoulder went numb i couldn't move it and my coach said if you ever do that again i just won't play you yeah and i was like okay so now i me and I just grab them.
Yeah, there you go. I'll take a horse call.
Get the backpack on him. Just let him go by and then jump on.
I threw a pick against Kansas City. I let Breland get in front of me.
And then I went because I could chase him. And then I grabbed him and threw him down.
You just got to show a little bit of effort for the tape. You don't have to make the tackle.
Yeah, you just got to try. Yeah, you got to be like, all right, there he is running down the field.
That's fine. I had one last year.
I threw a pick against the Rams. It's a terrible throw.
But I didn't see the guy throw it. And I'm standing there, and I'm like, please cut back.
And he runs right at me. I was like, crap.
And then finally, he cut back. I just jumped on the tackle to try and get a stat.
Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly.
Well, Derek, thank you so much, man. We appreciate it.
It's been a lot of fun. Tell your brother to maybe unblock us.
You don't unblock PFT, but tell your brother. We've got a system now.
I'm not going to because I like our system. Yeah, yeah.
But your brother could unblock us, and we'll probably get blocked again like two seconds later. But that's fine.
That's a part of the game. It's all love.
It's cat and mouse. I appreciate you guys for real.
Yeah, good luck this weekend. Thanks so much.
Thank you. Yep, thanks.
Hope you win. Yep, thank you.
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Okay, we now welcome on our good friend Shane Bacon. You can listen to him on Get a Grip and Ping Proving Grounds.
He's got a book, The Golfer Zoo, great children's book. He is a golf guy through and through, and we wanted to do an Open Championship preview with Shane.
So, Shane, let's start with this. Let's start with a – I know you always have great stories and backgrounds, but Royal Troon.
Give us the background of Royal Troon, the golf course, and what we should expect when we're watching this weekend, early mornings, which I actually love, at the Open Championship. Yeah, so I went over to Scotland after college, Big Cat, and actually caddied at St.
Andrews for a summer. That was like my job out of college.
And I went and played Royal Troon, didn't know much about it. And I walked away and said to myself, my dad was there with me, and I said, this is my favorite Lynx that I played to this point.
So I love it. This is 10th open championship.
It's hosted first since 2016 had both some awesome winners and some random winners, Todd Hamilton, of course, beating Ernie Els there back in the day. I think that was in 2004, but this is a pretty demanding driving golf course for an open, you know, you go to places like St.
Andrews and you can kind of hit it all over the place, even with fescue up. This is a place where if you start missing fairways, you can find yourself in the gorse.
I mean, some of these corridors are really, really tight and they've done a good job of kind of tightening those up for this open championship. So I love it.
It's, you see a lot of water when you play this golf course, probably as much ocean as you'll see play in any of the open road of golf courses and like I said I mean I get obsessed when uh when they return to Royal Choon just because it's one of my favorite personal golf courses over there so with the water if this uh if this golf course is windy any day is it become almost unplayable because I feel like that happens sometimes at the open championship where if the wind is really whipping it's like like these guys got no chance. I don't think I'd go as far as to say unplayable.
And the word I'm hearing from people over there is that this is a little bit of a greener golf course than some of the ones in the area. The RNA kind of making sure that with some of the weather they're predicting later in the week that the balls aren't going to roll off the greens.
If you guys remember 2015, Brooks Koepka, when he was not Brooks Koepka, basically told the RNA, I'm not going to keep playing at St. Andrews because it was so windy.
And this was like when he was just the European tour golfer, not kind of the stud that he is now. That, I think, is the fear for the RNA, is that if it gets super windy and there's that much exposed greens like you see at St.
Andrews and you see at Troon, then maybe they'd have to pull people off the golf course. So I think that's part of the reason you're going to see a little bit of a greener rural Troon than maybe you'd expect or even some of the golf courses in the area.
Yeah. Okay, so the wind is going to be the real X factor because I feel like with the U.S.
Open, we root for the course. It's our favorite thing to do.
With the British Open, it's almost like, excuse me, the Open Championship. Yeah, please.
I apologize. You root for the weather sometimes.
You root for the conditions. Yeah, Mother Nature is like the top pick at this one.
I think you can also root for the course, PFT. I mean, I think this is a place where they've condensed the golf courses on the road over there, so you only see six or seven courses, really.
So I think it's a chance to kind of root for your all-star team, right? I mean, true and you get st andrews they you know occasionally will pop over to ireland but for the most part there are six or seven places that we know and we love so you can root for both mother nature and the golf course yeah i like that so um yeah it's going to be very interesting we've already got some drama to start the week off tiger and uh and monty are going at it colin montgomery what did montgomery say he said like maybe it's time for tiger to retire talking about his his recent play and then tiger fired back and said well they let you play here for the rest of your life if you win yeah yeah montgomery was basically saying this is not the tiger woods that i grew up watching that i grew up competing against the fiery competitor i think is the terminology he used he used about Tiger. And he was basically saying, this isn't, you know, this is Roger Federer playing tennis at the age of 50, right? And Tiger fired back and said, I get a chance to play the open until I'm 60 years old.
That's basically the cutoff at the open. Colin Montgomery does not get so.
Colin Montgomery never won a men's major championship, arguably the greatest player in golf history not to win a men's major. So yeah, Tiger firing back.
Listen, Tiger's never going to dig deep into who you are, but he's going to lay lines out like that. Like you remember the Stephen Ames thing, his answer about the talk from Ames back in the match play days, he just simply said nine and eight is what he beat him at.
I think this is kind of typical Tiger in terms of the response. I'll say this.
I think it's good for Tiger. I think somebody taking a shot at this guy, you know, you guys follow golf, you know, around the major championships.
I know you guys follow Tiger Woods. When's the last time somebody took a shot at Tiger? It rarely happens if ever.
So if he needs bulletin board material or some reason to get a little bit more fired up and go out there and play well, maybe this helps him this week. Maybe he'll even make the cut.
That's right. More bulletin board.
He hasn't shot a round in the 60s since Riviera last year, so that's about 18 months ago. So, yeah, anything that could maybe help him go out there and play a decent round of golf would be helpful.
Okay, so the other story, Rory coming off of maybe the worst loss you could have as a golfer. He peeled out of the driveway after the US Open.
Everybody was safe. Everybody was safe.
He almost hit several people. Yeah, he didn't talk to the media.
He released a statement afterwards, so he's talking to the media this week. I saw that also there was a funny story that Tiger texted him two days after, gave him a couple days, but Rory had changed his number, so he ghosted Tiger.
But where do you think Rory is at mentally? Can he win this? He feels like the guy, especially in the last few years, where he has been so close so many times and played such great golf, and he has nothing to show for it. I think he can absolutely win in any major championship.
I think it's so easy for golf people to go, I like Rory this week. Well, you like Rory at every major.
He finishes in the top 10 every single time. There's a big difference, obviously, in finishing in the top 10 and winning.
I think for Rory, he can look back at 2011. You know, that complete, you know, like second nine at Augusta National, you know, basically debacle from Rory McIlroy.
He started hitting balls left and making huge numbers and loses the Masters. He won the next major championship after that by eight shots.
And that has been something that Rory has been great throughout his career is that kind of bounce back ability. So in that regard, yes, I think it could be a good week for Rory.
I don't see this being a great place for him. I just, I feel like the unpredictability of, of links golf, the weather expected with the high winds.
I'll give you guys this. I know you guys are an NFL podcast for the most part.
The Masters is a Super Bowl. The PGA Championship is opening week of the NFL.
Everybody gets excited, but it's not the most important part of the season. I feel like the U.S.
Open is kind of divisional championship weekend where everybody that makes it to that point has a chance to win, but it's going to be very, very tough to do so. The Open is a snow game.
There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game. Maybe you can throw the ball.
Maybe you got to run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all.
That's what I look at here. And you've got to go back to 2010 with Rory, the opening round of St.
Andrews, he shoots 63 and should have shot 62. The weather picks up, the wind starts blowing.
He shoots 80 the second round. There's just so much unpredictability going into this week and what we should expect from Rory.
He played fine last week. I just don't see him as a winner at Royal Troon considering the golf course and kind of the weather and what we expect to see there.
I love that you just mansplained golf to us in football terms, but that was the perfect analogy. I get it now.
Yeah, like you don't know if there's so much snow there's so yeah. If there's so much snow that it's going to be a really good for the offense or there's just a little bit of snow.
So it's just going to be a mucky game altogether. I like that.
Yeah. It was, it was an aha moment for me.
I was like, Oh that, Oh shit. That makes sense.
So if we're to pull on that thread a little bit and extrapolate it, LaShawn McCoy was like the greatest running back ever, the greatest snow game play ever. Who is the LaShawn McCoy of golf? Who can play the best in the worst conditions? I think Brooks would be my answer to this.
I feel like Brooks is the kind of guy that if it's windy, if it's nasty, if it's fine, obviously he's played well on golf courses with no wind at all. I feel like Brooks is one of those guys, kind of like Jack Nicklaus back in the day, or Jack, sorry, Jack Nicklaus, right? How do you say it? Nicklaus, my bad.
Sorry, the famous golfer. But you know, you think back to the way Jack kind of approached major championships.
You said, anybody that was a complainant at the US Open, I knew I could beat. I feel like Brooks is very similar in that vein, where he goes into these weeks going, I hope it blows.
I hope it's nasty. And if it's not, that's fine too.
I can still shoot 65. Yeah.
Can you, can you do a comparison for Bryson DeChambeau? What NFL player would he be? I mean, I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers. Maybe that's the comp for Bryson where you either love him or you don't like him at all.
I mean, I know big cat has had an interesting relationship with Aaron over the years. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, you know, the one Super Bowl, right? And I mean, if that's his legacy, that'll be a very interesting thing to follow up.
I mean, for Bryson, I think the biggest difference for me is Bryson's ability to play these types of golf courses. You think about the way he played Piners.
He's not winning at Piners three years ago, but he's changed his game, and he's kind of opened his mind up to playing different types of golf when it asks the one thing about this golf course is this is the most demanding driving golf course that you'll see all year long in terms of major championship golf and bryson can get a bit squirrely with the driver we know he hits it forever he doesn't always hit a ton of fairways so that'll be kind of the thing i pay attention to is bryson willing to hit the driving iron or the long iron off a lot of these tees like so many of the other players or, or is he going to try to bang driver? Like we saw at pine or sell over the place. So this golf course, um, correct me if I'm wrong, but like, I've been reading about like who to bet on and who, who has a good chance.
And the name Colin Morikawa comes up a lot because this golf course doesn't penalize guys who can't hit it a million miles, you know, down the, down the course. So a Rory like he his his biggest strength is a little bit neutralized is that fair to say and is it is it a golf course that guys who don't hit it the distance that Rory or Bryson hit it are going to have just as good of a chance to win yeah the PGA championship and the US Open have kind of become and even I mean even Augusta National for that matter I mean you want to be able to hit the ball as far as humanly possible.
That gives you the best edge. I got a great Justin Ray stat for you on that big cat, Justin Ray on Twitter, who has all the great stats and does an amazing job.
He said since 2014, 55% of the masters winners, PGA winners, and U S up U S open winners have ranked in the top 10 that week in driving distance. None of the last eight open champion winners have done..
To your point, you don't have to bang the golf ball to do well here. You look at Brian Harmon a year ago, not a long hitter of the golf ball.
He contends. This remains the random major championship.
This is the one where you can be older. You don't have to be the young dude.
You don't have to be the young stud. You can be an older player.
We've seen a lot of randomness across the board over the last 20 years in terms of winners at open championships so yeah I think for Colin Morikawa you heard him talk after the masters you know he goes I'm hitting five iron when Scotty Scheffler's hitting eight iron that's not so much the case at an open he can get around in similar fashion somebody like Scotty or Rory it's a thinking man's tournament yeah absolutely I think it's a thinking man's tournament I think it an old guy's tournament as well. I think this is the place where you can still see someone in their 40s or maybe even in their 50s compete, contend, and potentially win.
What about Scotty Shuffler? He's mentally kind of like a 55-year-old. He kind of looks like a 55-year-old as well.
He does. I mean, I love Scotty everywhere.
This is the one major he hadn't quite figured out yet. But I'll say this about Scotty.
He's had an unbelievable year. We talk about his wins.
Obviously, he wins the second time at Augusta National. If he goes through this season like he did last year without another of the majors, I think it'll be slightly glaring because when you talk about Scottie, you're talking about one of the greatest of this generation, if not the greatest of this generation.
He's only, quote unquote, only won the Masters, right? So for him to go through these US Opens and PGAs and be close and not win, I think this is as important a week as it is to Rory McIlroy, as it is for Scotty Scheffler in that regard. Because if he doesn't win this, do we look at the season as a great year where he only won one major championship? If he wins this, you're talking about one of the great seasons we've seen over the last 25 years, one of the great seasons over the last 40 years in the non-Tiger division.
Yeah, and what about our dear friend Max Homa? Is this a tournament that can shape up for Max's game? Tell us that Max has a chance. Max absolutely has a chance at an Open.
I just feel like with the way he can drive the golf ball, he hadn't played great golf as of late, but I feel like Max is one of those guys that, like I said about Brooks, he's one of those dudes that can kind of lean into nasty conditions, winds are up. I'm not going to let it affect me like some of the other guys that are maybe weaker minded out on the tour.
Okay. I like that a lot.
I like that very much. And yeah, I think, listen, we're all, we're all rooting for Max here.
It feels like the last couple of tournaments, he hasn't been at the top of his game. Is that fair to say? Yeah.
I think over the last, i think he'd be the first to say over the last five six months really since the masters he hadn't played his greatest golf he didn't play great at the scottish last week but the open last year was really important for max so maybe he'll get some good vibes from the way he played at the open last year and go out there and put together something like we saw at augusta okay so what about long shots or even any any any picks because i will probably these. I got so many for you.
By the way, I wanted to ask you this question because we were talking about snow games earlier. I think I've never won a bet betting on the weather, like betting the under in snow games or raining games.
How are you in terms of looking at the forecast and then making your bet on that? Snow games are my favorite because everyone thinks, oh, this is going to be an under, and they're snowverse for a reason because it's so hard for the defense to get off and to be able to – when the offense knows where they're going and the defense is trying to figure it out and they're sliding everywhere, that LeSean McCoy game, that had like a million points. So, yeah, whenever there's a snow game, wait until the last minute and then hit the over because it always comes down.
Everyone bets the under, and then you just bet the over right before kickoff, and it's usually a good bet. It's got to be like a good amount of snow, though.
It can't be just like a light dusting. It has to be real snow.
Like you need to be using the plow, not the shovel. Yes, right.
That's kind of the deal. I like that.
I like that. All right, I got some names that I like this week, and then I got a couple sleepers for you guys.
I like Shane Lowry this week, top 20 in his last two major championships. Been very, very consistent this year.
Seems to get good vibes. And also he's 16th on tour this season in driving accuracy, so hits a whole bunch of fairways.
Already won an open championship. I like Corey Connors this week a little bit.
He's played incredibly consistent golf. I think he's made 26 straight cuts.
Just feels like one of those guys. The Open Championship doesn't demand a ton when you get on the greens.
That's the part of Corey Connors' game that maybe he isn't as good as maybe a Scotty Scheffler or Rory McIlroy, but he is an incredible ball striker, so I like Corey. I like Aaron Rye a lot, the 29-year-old Englishman.
This is just his seventh major championship. He's played incredible golf as of late.
I think he's finished in the top seven in his last three starts, and he's played well in the majors this year. So those are my sleepers.
I got my pick. Do you want the guy I think is going to actually win this thing? Yeah.
I'm going to Adam Scott. He played well last week, so it's not as kind of like shocking of a pick.
He's 44 years old, finished in the top 10, hasn't finished in the top 10 in a major since 2019. But I feel like he's one of those guys.
It's Adam Scott and Sergio Garcia that shouldn't end their career with one major title. And so I feel like Adam is playing well.
He's talked a lot this year about prepping his game around the major championships still feels like he has a chance to win one and you go back to 2012 he came so close made bogey on his last four holes to lose to Ernie Els by one I think Adam's going to be a factor this week okay okay and and you used a word earlier in this interview I know what it means but I don't think big cat does so if you could explain it to big cat uh gorse yeah what yeah I'm an idiot I know exactly what it is. I thought it was a type of duck.
I know exactly what it is, but I just don't want to say it. So I was hoping that you would tell him.
Please tell me. Some would say it's a horse that kind of hangs out around Royal Troon, but it's the big green bushes with the stickers inside.
You can't go in there. You can't search for a golf ball, but it is nasty, gnarly, and if you hit it in there, it's basically like you hit a ball out of bounds so that's the no zone when I was caddying at St.
Andrews if a player hit it and hit it in there and asked me to look for it I would just kind of like walk slowly away from the player until I couldn't hear him anymore what so if it goes into the gorse there's a tournament official that comes out and says you can't even look for your ball in here I mean you can look for it but like legitimately the needles and and somebody from the UK is probably going to correct me on this but i've i've heard and this might be like the caddy thing we used to do this in scottsdale a lot when people come out to play like true i worked at true north and we'd always tell them it was rattlesnake season just simply to keep them going even if it wasn't rattlesnake season so they wouldn't go out and spend 20 minutes searching for a golf ball i heard that there are bacteria on the end of like the sticky parts of gorse bushes so not only do you get pricked and it hurts but it also gets infected quickly again that might just be a catty tail but that was what i was told back when i went over in uh and looped it i like that i like that yeah don't touch that yeah they should pull up like sick a blue injury if you get it's what we tell our children that's basically why all the time right it's right? It's like the children stuff. Oh, I had that happen to me.
We were on vacation July 4th week, and my kids picked some berries, and I was like, do not eat those berries. And then my wife was like, no, they can eat those.
Those are like blueberries. And I was like, oh, shit.
But then you have to explain for every berry now. Yeah, I was like, no, no, don't eat random berries.
Just say the gorse is hot lava. You can't touch it.
Yeah, right. Just say no to everything your children's asking, then you can go back from there is what I've basically learned in my young run of being a parent.
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How are the pop that's my favorite part of the open championship what are the pop what would you rank the pop bunkers at royal troon versus uh some of the other courses they play the open championship at i mean some of the best pop bunkers great pop bunkers all across the fairway around the holes there's a hole you're going to see a lot this week called the postage stamp very very short par three i think it's the shortest par three they play on the open road 123 yards tiny green ton of pop bunkers big cats so if you don't hit your wedge on the green uh you're going to be kind of scrambling to make uh to make four by the way my dad only time he played rule true and made birdie on uh on the postage stamp but he basically wanted to walk off the golf course so shout out out to Monty B on the great shot. He should have.

That's awesome.

Walk off after eight.

Wait, Monty B, is Bacon not your stage name?

No, real name.

Wow.

I thought it was like a porn star name.

Your dad's name is Montgomery Bacon?

It wasn't Montgomery.

It's just Monty.

By the way, Monty Bruce Bacon.

So very old school in terms of the one, two punches there.

But yeah, Bacon's the way to go. I mean, Big know big cats your name right that's yeah that's my given name that's that's crazy what i mean that's awesome powerful name was it one of those names that people made fun of when you were like a little kid yeah but then you realize like this rocks yeah because no one's gonna forget your name when you're five to 13 it stunk and then i post-13, people thought it was pretty cool.
Yeah, that is a very cool name. Wake up with your friends at like 7 a.m., hit a joint.
It's waking bacon time. Yeah.
You ever do that? I mean, I may have done that before. How hard is it not to do like every show that you've ever done trying to work bacon into the name? Well, I mean, I get a lot of people.
You know, the weirdest thing question I get big cat on a kind of a weekly basis is if you give somebody your name, they ask you how to spell it. Yeah.
I'll always say, how do you not spell it? Like there's only one way to spell bacon. Right.
Yeah. But yeah, I don't know if I always squeeze it in interviews, but I might start.
I mean, I think that might, could that propel me to another planet? You think? Yeah. Yeah.
Bacon and fried eggs, the golf podcast. Eggs and bacon, yeah.
Yeah. I think there's something to work with here.
So wait, going back to the postage stamp, why is it called the postage stamp? I think because it's the green so small. These are the smallest greens on the open rota, and the postage stamp is tiny, tiny, tiny.
So again, like it's a wedge. I mean, it's kind of one of those hit a good shot or you're going to make four.
And we've seen guys make holes in one there. We've seen great shots.
But you can make a huge number on it if you don't hit a great shot. And the wind on Thursday, it's supposed to be very windy on Thursday.
The wind's kind of coming in from a different direction. So I think it's going to be in the face on the postage stamp.
So you might see eight iron, seven iron from these players from 120. Oh, wow.
Interesting. So one last question for you.
There's a Swedish golfer, a Beric, and he seems to be always kind of hovering around the top of the leaderboard, at least recently at some of the majors from everybody that I've talked to. They say that physically he's one of the best golfers in the world.
Total stud. Yep.
So is is this a course that sets up perfectly for his game or is this one where it's like, OK, he needs more experience. The physical tools don't necessarily translate over.
I mean, it would be to me, and I don't want to like get above my skis here with Ludwig because he is so young and he hadn't played a lot of these things, but it would kind of be like asking, does this basketball court work for Steph Curry? Like shooting wise. I mean, all of these, the dude hits it a mile.
He hits it incredibly straight. He's an awesome iron player.
Really, the only thing he's got to figure out is how to kind of close these things out. He struggled in final rounds.
But absolutely, like this golf course, he could play well. He's going to hit driver a lot when a lot of guys won't because he hits it so straight.
I feel like he's one of those dudes that is going to play well at Open, play well at Augusta, play well at U.S. Opens.
He's kind of the next it dude, in my opinion. Okay.
Okay my opinion okay okay all right love it well shane thank you so much the the finale for uh the the major championships always kind of bittersweet feels like i know there's more golf to play but it does feel like this is kind of the end uh but we're excited to watch and we appreciate all your insight 260 days come sunday night until the next men's major round that's the first round of the master so yes it is uh it is a long long break thanks boys always appreciate the time all right thanks shane okay we'll wrap up with guys on chicks great interview with derrick car great guy we're derrick car fans now great guy you can't it's like the kirk cousins interview yeah he's such a nice guy that you can't help but root for. And he addressed the mascara allegations.
He did, which is good to hear. Yeah.
All right, guys on checks. Hank.
My husband claims that to be considered athletic, you have to be able to play multiple team sports. In his mind, the best athletes of all time are people like Danny Ainge and Deion Sanders because they excel in multiple sports.
According to his logic, people like Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt are not necessarily athletic unless they can play multiple sports. Yeah.
Michael Phelps is water merchant. I disagree.
This argument started after he claimed that even though I was nationally ranked figure skater, I'm not athletic because I didn't play sports like soccer, lacrosse, et cetera. Should he be admitted to a mental hospital or am I in the wrong here? Um, I think he has a fair point, which is you can specialize in certain things, but to get to the top of that field.
You have to be athletic to be a fucking figure skater, though. His idea is that Michael Phelps is not athletic? I think he's just trying to put his wife down, I guess.
Yeah, also saying Usain Bolt is a wilder take, I think, than saying Michael Phelps isn't. The Olympics are just basically for not ball sports.

Yeah.

Usain Bolt is the fastest human being that's ever existed on planet Earth.

He's the epitome athletic.

Yeah.

And so is Michael Phelps.

Michael Phelps, but take away the water.

What do you got?

True.

Probably a guy who would have been like an awesome rower.

Tight end.

I guess that's the water.

Awesome water.

Yeah.

Yeah, Michael Phelps,elps bum yeah just some random

pothead so happened to find a pool when he was young sucks come on the pod mike thought it was a gravity bong yeah my girlfriend has paid for a wedding venue for a wedding on may 31st and started buying everything for it the kicker is we just went ring shopping and i haven't proposed yet. Do you think this is strange? Yeah.

Wait, so you're engaged but not engaged. She got you engaged by renting a bin.
Yeah, but those things fill up. She acted fast, but yeah.
I'd be worried. I'd be a little worried.
That feels also like after you get married, she's going to name your children before you're pregnant kind of thing. Oh, she's already got them.
Weird. Yeah.
That is a weird thing to do. There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature with your boyfriend's last name.
Yeah. My third child went almost 72 hours without a name we were just like we don't know male because it was like we're like all right we'll figure it out like i would toss we were tossing around different names then finally when we like had to leave the hospital they're like you need a name to leave the hospital so i'm curious just from her perspective do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged uh yeah you gotta be this has got to be the girl that's like all her friends are already married yeah like she's on yeah she's got she's trying to yeah yeah no she's she's already got the she's already probably got a house picked out where the baby room's gonna be everything yeah she's got her She's got her vision board.
You've got to propose to him, and he just hasn't said yes yet. Yeah.
All right, last one. We don't want you to break up.
At what point do you start thinking to yourself, like, he hasn't asked me yet? Oh, she's definitely. Also, who goes ring shopping? Actually, no, maybe.

Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?

No, usually it's like best friend.

Yeah, we just went ring shopping.

But also PFT, I think she.

I thought that's the whole point.

She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked.

Like, we're doing this no matter what.

Whether you ask or not.

Yeah.

We're getting married.

There's going to be some tough questions you'll have to answer come thanksgiving yes regardless of whose house you go to yes all right last one my boyfriend plays in beer league hockey and we first started dating i went to everyone lately with life stuff i haven't gone much the last fee i went to was the only the last fee last time i guess i'm assuming it's last time last time i went last game i went to i was the only wife girlfriend there and worried that maybe i shouldn't go anymore because i didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing i guess my question is do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them does it make a difference no they're not no i feel like when i ask my boyfriend he doesn't want to make me feel bad i'm not going but i also don't want to intrude on guy time. Since the last few times I was the only girlfriend there.
Do not go. And also, when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking about? Yeah, do not go.
I don't go to your boyfriend's intramural games. Guys want to feel athletic.
They don't want to think about how their girlfriend's looking at them and being like, you are not athletic athletic and they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like you want to grab a beer after yes and they want to be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lie to you and if you were there then they can't do that and they also want to be they want to say hey i'm grabbing a quick beer with my with the team after i'll be home in a little bit and have six beers and be home in a lot of it. Yeah.
He wants the freedom to, to go on like a road trip with his beer league and sleep like six people in a one bed hotel room, get hammered until like five o'clock in the morning, smoke cigarettes and not have you be like, Hey, when are you coming home? Credit to you you though because you at least had the awareness

yeah feels like you were halfway there yeah step one yeah uh okay good show boys but on a heater heater uh let's do numbers 30 8 56 this is gonna be 20 today three no it's three today's gonna be I'm picking number three.

I'm picking 20.

Shane Pug.

29.

How about you? Three. Today's going to be 20.
I'm picking number three. I'm picking 20.
Shane Pug.

21.

How about just 20?

99.

PFT, did you pick?

I picked eight.

How about 20?

Three, three, three.

55.

Oh, my God.

That would have been awesome. I love that.

Love you guys. Today is a night, day to find you, shine it away, I'll be coming for your love, okay?

Take on me, take me on, I'll be gone in a day of tea Needless to say I'm hard to say it But I'm being stolen away Life is okay Say after me It's the better time. Take me I'll be gone In a day of dreams All the things that you say Is it life or just to play my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember You're shying away I'll be coming for you anyway Take on me Take me on I'll be gone in a day.

I'll be gone in a day. Thank you.