Derrick White, Adam Thielen, Hank Shaves His Head And Gets An Incredible Offer From A Special Call In

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On today's Pardon My Take, Hank shaves his head. Lockwood always pays his debts.
Lockwood always pays his debts. We have Derek White, Boston Celtic champion on the podcast because he was the original person who we did the bet with.
So he shows he comes on the show. We talked to him about what it was at Monday night.
Yeah, Monday night. What it's been like after the parade coming up.
We also have very special guest Adam Thielen from the Carolina Panthers. Great interview with him.
We're going to talk about J.J. Redick to the Lakers.
Catch up with anything else. We're going to do Mount Rushmore season on Monday.
That will be the official kickoff. I can't wait for that.
And we have Fyre Fest today. So we have a great show for you setting into the weekend.
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Boys! Okay, let $100. welcome to part of my take presented by draft kings download the draft king sportsbook app use code take new customers bet five bucks get 150 and bonus bets instantly that's code take only on draft kings the crown is yours today is friday june 21st and hank is going to shave his head let's go hank let's do it hank i going to look good, Hank.
Yeah, so if you're watching the show, he's shaving it right now, live on air. He's going to look good.
I feel good about this. Hank, walk us through what you're thinking about, and then we're going to talk some other sports.
I think I'm a man of my word. This show is built on being a man of your word.
I said I was going to do something, and I'm doing it. So, you know, someone here has to be accountable.
Yeah. You are that.
It seems like you should just celebrate what you're doing right now instead of trying to make a pointed reference. Well, I don't want to do it.
Like, you know, some people, when they don't want to do it, they just kind of avoid it or say blame other people and say they can't do it. No, it's memes' fault.
I don't really want this you can appreciate that i would do it as a man that i am that knows how tough memes can be to work with memes ruin the scheduling of the perm but this isn't about my perm heck this is about i didn't i didn't bring up your this is about you looking he didn't bring it up no he didn't no he didn't you look great i think this is a good look for you you might even just be a bald guy yeah memes said uh when you when we went down to just this so you got you got it obviously buzzed first now you're getting it fully shaved meme said if you just added uh some muscle you'd just be every dude from long island yeah i mean the eyebrows through the eyebrows i think it really exposes how i don't know i gotta do something with them we can clean them up yeah we can clean them? Yeah. It makes me look, I just look like a, I look scary.
You want to shout out your barber? Yeah. Joel Fresh Cuts.
Shout out to my guy. Pulls up to the office.
Great golfer. Great dude.
Follow him on Instagram. Golfer? I think every.
Wait, you guys have golfed together? A couple times. A couple times.
A couple times. Everybody Hank knows has played golf with him at some point.
Yeah. Yeah.
Who doesn't golf with their barber yeah hank oh he has best score thank you you do look good there is like a slight prison vibe going on yeah uh it's yeah yeah be honest with me i don't you agree i don't i don't need to hear that shit i know i look like a like a psychopath shank lockwood yeah that's what you're like i feel like if i see this guy he's wearing a seltic jersey probably has a knife in his belt. But I do think you look good and the way that you can tell that you actually look good is because right when you start to get shaved, Memes goes oh fuck, he actually looks good.
And Memes was rooting for you so badly to just look like a giant penis and it turns out that you look okay. Yeah, I mean if you, again, when Derek White and Pritcher were here, if you told me right then that the celtics would win the championship i just have to shave my head i'm making that bet 10 times out of 10 i'm going to the parade today should be a good time uh so you know what fuck you're ready to go all about confidence you're ready to go um all right so we'll update once you get fully shaved uh we do have news we have jj reddick is now the coach of the Los Angeles Lakers.
Oh, memes, are we ready for my surprise? I don't like this at all. Memes, are we ready for my surprise? Not yet.
All right, so just let me know when the – I have a surprise for Hank. But, yeah, J.J.
Redick, coach of the Lakers. Huge – so the news broke during the Derek White interview,

so we mentioned it quickly,

but my first thought was it's huge for the podcast community.

It is.

Us podcasters can do anything.

It's important to have representation in the media.

Yes. Growing up, if you're a kid out there with a podcast,

you can look at J.J. Reddick and say,

I too one day can coach the Lakers.

Yes.

And, I mean, a little behind the scenes here,

but this kind of means that Tommy Alter is the secret advisor to the coach of the Los Angeles Lakers. Oh.
So I think that makes us very powerful too. It does.
We have the ear of the man with the ear. Do you think JJ will continue to come on this show now that he's the Los Angeles Lakers head coach? No.
You think he's going to pretend that we never existed? Yes. Probably.
I think that's a safe bet. I think he'll still throw us a bone once in a while.
I think maybe. If he wants to be a champion.
If he wants to be a champion, yeah. That's true.
Precedent's been set. It's a good point, but also at the same time, there might be a guy on the team that probably doesn't want him to come on to part of my team.
Yeah, but he already was doing a podcast with said guy. Oh, are you talking about LeBronbron yeah actually that's that's our true representation we could be lebron as well we could well yeah so you could be lebron i'll be jj lebron gives me visibility because you can be a podcaster that loves to drink yeah and now i'm like okay i could also be a multiple time nba champion yeah exactly so i i mean good for jj congrats to jj I think we all thought this was going that way it is a very weird story on the surface level like JJ I think is gonna be a good coach so I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve the shot here but if you had said 15 years ago that there'll be these things called podcasts and uh JJj reddick will end up being the coach of the los angeles lakers because partly because he had a podcast with lebron james i what what are you fucking talking about right now do you think they're going to keep the podcast going i think they have to and then maybe this was just this might have been a play by both of them just to increase the podcast numbers true like lebron was probably going to retire jj's like i don't want to be a head coach oh well you know what's a great way to get the youtube account up how about we just work together for the lakers that's a great fucking point pft and i want it on the record that uh we've always done this podcast natural we've never we've never dated taylor swift we've never became the Lakers head coach it's the juice ball it is it's crazy everyone's got all these tricks and bits trying to get all their numbers up we just show up we run the ball every day that's all we do and we do the podcast because we do the podcast yeah while hank gets his head shaved yeah we're not about gimmicks no fuck that it is bullshit we're competing against

the juice ball of the podcasting yeah we need to figure out we were talking about maybe hank dating beyonce stealing away from jay-z as a possibility uh maybe max hooking up with sexy red maybe maybe memes getting cardi b pregnant yeah but you i just thumbs up that yeah i think we got to step it up i I think we really have to figure out a real solid play here.

Actually, Jake, he left part of my take to go marry Jill Biden. So Jill is divorcing Jill.
Dr. Jill? Yeah, Dr.
Jill is now Dr. Jill Marsh.
I could see Jake being the first. What would be the? His wife would be the president? Yeah, the first dude.
First dude of America. Yeah, first.
I could see that happening. Very cool, Jake.
Yeah, very cool. It was very nice to see all the love and support that Jake got.
Yeah, we appreciate that from the AWL. So Jake appreciates it a lot.
Yeah, it was one of those moments. We've been doing this for a long time, and we're now faced against the Juiced Ball podcast era.

But we have, I think through the years,

built a community and fans that will ride with us no matter what.

And we love you guys so much for that.

And it showed through when Jake made his announcement on Wednesday's show.

And it's just a reminder how lucky we are to have fans like everyone who listens to the show. Yeah appreciate that and Jake I talked to him earlier he really really appreciates everybody uh and their kind words so thank you guys for that yes um okay what else we got oh the Pistons fired their coach I think that this makes the job opening in Detroit way more attractive yeah because you can go there for a year get fired and still get paid for the remaining four or five years that you have on your contract yeah that's a destination i want a part of how much money is monty williams made in the last few years to not coach a lot not as much as what i yeah i mean i would i think he's a great coach and i think that somebody's probably going to hire him uh for a decent job in the near future but getting paid money not to work is the american dream and so that's ultimately the best thing that you want to be looking for when you're head coach which is why i would want to coach the pistons yeah get fired six years 78 uh and a half million dollars is the contract he signed last year was it six years i don't know it was 78 and a half million i don't know how many years it was but uh yeah six years 78 and a half million i was right yeah so they're like here's 60 million dollars to not work and you can move out of detroit and that is the best deal ever yeah no longer have to coach a 14 win team that's so good the pistons are i i do feel a little bit the Pistons, just in the fact that we talked about it when they did the lottery.

They've had just the worst lottery luck possible.

Yeah.

Because they've been the worst team in the NBA for three years running,

and they keep getting the fifth pick.

Yeah, they should just have a Twitter account or a Twitch stream with polls on it.

They should just have that run, the Detroit Pistons.

Oh.

And make all the personnel decisions, all the rotation adjustments.

Just have it be done by committee of Pistons fans.

I like that a lot.

I like that a lot.

But, yeah, he's living the dream.

He's able to do nothing and get paid millions and millions of dollars.

My hair is fucked up right now.

Damn.

Same.

Yeah.

Oh.

No, but mine's way more fucked up.

Oh.

Get the look.

We're going to. Scary.
I look fucking scary. Go back.
Hank, you look good. You got to get a little tan on, but that'll happen.
But don't get burned. Yeah.
What are you going to do about golf? Are you going to wear a hat? Because you can't wear a hat now as a bald man. I'm wearing hats all summer.
But then every time you take it off, you're going to look crazy. You're going to look like Stewart Cink.
I hope it just grows back. Yeah.
It will, but it's going to be at least a month or two. The eyebrows are a problem.
We'll clean them up. How long until the hair grows back to what it was before you shaved it? Like two months, Joel? Yeah.
Two months. Okay.
Yeah, that's not bad at all. It might be a month and a half.
His hair grows pretty fast. Yeah, he is.
He's got that testosterone bumping through. Big summer of Hank.
Summer of Hank. Other stories I have.
I'm going to get some toupees. Yes.
Finally. Do some experimentation.
I love that. Get the golf visor that's got the funny spiky hair poking through.
Yeah. The yellow hair, white hair.
That'd be a good look on you. Did you guys see the NCAAs trying to screw up the tournament again? Yeah, 72 to 76 teams.
Oh, we got our special guest. Hank, put on your headphones.
We got our special guest. Surprise.
Surprise. I told you, just trust me.
It's a good surprise. He's grunting.
He's grunting. He's very upset.
I wonder who it could be. All right, let him in.
It is. Here he is.
It's Coach Joe. Hey.
Do you see him? Look at his hair. It's looking good.
Hank, you look like you're ready, man. I'm ready.
Anything for the team, Coach? Yes. Coach wanted to say something to you, though, Hank.
Yeah, Hank, I forgot to tell you this the other day, but I saved a seat for you on the duck boat with me tomorrow. Let's go.
On the coach's duck boat. Are you serious? Yeah.
He can't wear a hat, right? No. Cannot wear a hat.
That's no problem. No problem at all.
Or sunscreen. You can't wear a sunscreen.
Whatever you need. Whatever whatever you need oh coach you're the best i'd love to have you uh spend the day with us i appreciate it that's gonna be there thank you it's incredible you're you're the best coach thank you so much for hopping back on to offer that and uh take care of our boy he he now the odds for drunkards uh at the parade have changed drastically because Hank is now going to be on a duck boat with you.
We'll see if we can get some moonshine for you. Let's go, Hank.
What a day. What a day.
A summer of Hank, right, Coach? All right, Coach, thank you so much. Thanks, Coach.
See you tomorrow. The best.
The absolute best. And then we had uh another uh special guest yes you're going on coach missoula's duck boat tomorrow that's insane he texted me yesterday

he's like hey i want he's like i think hank can get there by 9 30 in the morning i was like yes

i mean the the it's gonna be tough to beat the make-a-wish allegations yeah oh yeah yeah so

hank do you have a strategy in terms of uh how are you gonna pace out your drinking no

Thank you. I mean, it's going to be tough to beat the make-a-wish allegations.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. So, Hank, do you have a strategy in terms of how you're going to pace out your drinking? No.
Okay. That's a bad strategy.
Yeah. You just got to go for it.
The other special guest we had was our good friend Max. I wanted to see what his take was on that.
I had him join the Zoom as well. Max? Max? Are you there? Did you see that? Did you see Coach Joe Mazzula invite Hank on a duck boat for the parade? He's going to be on a duck boat with the coach of the Boston Celtics? Oh my god.
For their parade? Is he here? Max? I think Max is refusing to drive. Oh, come on, Max.
This is the equivalent of when he takes off his headphones and just sits back.

He doesn't want to entertain. Give the people what they want, Max.

You know he's not in it, right?

Why?

Where is he?

He just, like, ten minutes ago, he said, I'll be in in five minutes.

It just hasn't joined.

I see his name up there.

Oh, his name is right there, memes.

No, this is this computer.

He controls the power.

Oh, that's tricky.

Okay.

Join now.

All right.

Damn, that sucks.

I told him to join. All right, well, we'll get our thoughts from Max.
He might have joined and then left. What can we do with the eye? Thread him up, Hank.
Are you thinking they look too bushy? I think I just look ugly, but that is what it is. No, you're just not used to it.
It's fine. I mean, I don't really give a fuck.
I'm going to be on the duck boat. Coach Joe Mazzula.
I really just don't care. I mean, give a fuck i'm gonna be on the duck boat i really just don't i mean that means you're gonna be on the duck boat with the trophy at some point yeah i'm gonna touch the and then you also are gonna like the duck boat goes to the like wherever they're gonna give speeches you're gonna be standing on the stage and then hank you're like i'm gonna meet everyone you're gonna i mean i'll probably like the coaches that yeah and then hank you're also gonna like if you play your cards right you'll just go with the team wherever they go after the break yeah if you're a cool hang yeah if you're a cool hang do you have any like any thoughts in the off chance that this is crazy hank go say a word on the microphone this.
This is crazy. No, I'm not going to do that.
I'm going to be respectful. I mean, I'm coach's guest.
I got to be somewhat in control. Good luck.
Who knows? I mean, this might be the biggest day of your life. Yeah, I mean, it'll be up there.
The first time we got to party with the Patriots was incredible, but this could be better. like it probably will be this is every kid i mean i can't you're gonna be i actually can't believe that you're gonna be they're gonna be cheering for you in a parade in a championship god damn it this guy bro thinks he's on the team i should have told i should have told joe that he we had an interview on friday he can't make it oh that that be fucked.
But Hank, you're going to be great. You're going to be great on this boat.
I love Hank too much that when he said it, I was actually pumped for him. Yeah.
Well, there was a lot of confusion the past two days. Yeah.
Because Dave, I think, sent the wrong text to someone. It was like, he's all set with Missoula.
And then people were asking me, like, oh, you're on a duck boat. I was like, I haven't heard anything.
So, no. Yeah.
Yeah. And I also, I had Caitlin Walker book a couple flights to make sure you get there at 930.
And she accidentally sent it to your email. Well, I had already booked the flight.
Yeah, I know. But I didn't know if you had flights that got there at 930.
Yeah. No, I had booked a flight for 9 45 tonight in case we lost a dozen oh i for 6 a.m i double booked those yeah i booked those again because i didn't know because i didn't want to tell you yeah because missoula was like let me surprise me i was like absolutely well yeah you're gonna be i'm i'm very jealous of you hang i think that this is gonna be the best day ever you're gonna it's gonna be surreal the entire you might whole thing is real my life is oh here we go we got the extra special guest.
All right, Hank. I think that this is going to be the best day ever.
It's going to be surreal. The whole thing is surreal.

Oh, here we go. We got the extra special

guest. Alright, Max.

Here he is. He's getting

let in.

It's too bad he missed that, but

we can explain it to him.

Max, are you there?

Max is on such a sick vacation

too. Max!

Hey, Max.

Where are you?

I heard all that.

Where are you?

I'm having a sick vacation right now.

Yeah, what are you doing?

Best vacation ever.

Driving across the country and moving.

That sounds fun.

Oh, that sounds fun.

Well, at least you'll have to drive one way.

Yeah.

No, got to drive both ways.

What?

I'm shutting my ass off. It's 98 degrees in new york city right now i smell like shit i smell like absolute shit right now i'm taking this from from my car hank hanks looks like an alien yeah well all right thank you at least someone's honest uh max um what you missed because you were uh in the middle of moving in the middle of summer and you're what you're driving all the way from New York to Chicago this weekend no I just drove from wait yes Saturday okay Saturday so will you be what are you doing tomorrow tomorrow and I am I'm doing nothing tomorrow oh perfect all right so we need yeah we need you for something so So we need you to get clips for the social account, for the part of my take social account, because Joe Missoula just joined the show, and he asked Hank to be his personal guest on his duck boat.
Wait, what? Hank's going to the parade tomorrow. He's going to be on Missoula's duck boat.
He's going to be on the boat with Coach. What am I supposed to do? You have to watch every second of it and get every clip of Hank.
There's going to be some great clips of Hank tomorrow. So I just...
Wait a minute. Something just happened here.
What happened? Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. okay it's never good um wait so i just have to watch hank on the duck boat yeah you got to make sure you get every clip what does that even mean he's gonna be he's doing his own clip no no no no media footage yeah the tv footage like he'll probably be on sports center he'll probably you know i'm gonna be all over that for sure okay i got you yeah yeah so just make sure you're there i was gonna be watching anyway yeah yeah and any of the clips that people post on social where they tag you in it yeah if you see any good if you're at the parade and you get a good video of hank tag philly maize yeah make sure that he can see it and then he can repost it from all our socials.
Yep. Really excited.
That sounds great. Are you pumped for Hank? No.
I'm really happy that he looks like shit. He looks terrible.
This is the last time we'll see Hank without a hat for the next four months. Well, no.
Missoula said he can't wear a hat tomorrow. Okay.
So tomorrow will be the last time that we see Hank without a hat for the next four months. Yeah, but he – well, no, Missoula said he can't wear a hat tomorrow.
Okay, so tomorrow will be the last time that we see Hank without a hat for the next four months. Well, yeah, and you'll see a lot of them tomorrow because you're going to get all the clips, right? It's a good trade, though, you know? Yeah, yes.
I don't even know what that means, get all the clips. It means you have to just watch the entire parade.
We never – Hank does something – No, yeah, I'm going to watch the whole parade. I'm definitely I'm definitely going to do that 100%.
I'm really excited for it, and I'm definitely going to do that. Because Hank's going to be doing a lot of awesome stuff that winners do.
Chugging beers. And he's going to be so happy.
So we want to make sure that people see that for visibility. Yeah, no, I'm excited to do that.
Okay. I'm happy for him.
Yeah, it sounds like you are.

You'll maybe get invited to a parade someday.

Almost.

Almost did.

When?

Well, the Eagles lost in the Super Bowl.

Do you remember that?

Yeah, were you going to get invited to the parade?

Not the parade, but...

Was Sirianni going to have you next to him?

No.

Sirianni probably doesn't like me. Yeah.
Big Dom does, though. Yeah, Big Dom.
Maybe Big Dom. Big Dom is the best.
Listen, that's the thing. Hank just won a title, and he's going to be on a duck boat with the coach of the Boston Celtics, but at least you text with Big Dom.
Wait, so you're going to be on the boat? Yes. This is why we need all the clips, Max.
He's Missoula's personal guest. He's literally on a duck boat with Missoula.
I thought you were on a DraftKings boat. No, he's on Missoula's boat.
No, he's on the boat with the coach. Of the Boston Celtics.
That just won an NBA championship with multiple former Sixers players. The trophy will probably be in Hank's hands as he raises it and people cheer at some point tomorrow, and you have to be there to get the clip.
It's setting in. It's slowly setting in.
It's slowly setting in. in there's gonna be so many clips of Hank with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum yes on yes Hank might even give a speech so you need to be diligent I'm gonna I'm gonna do a really I'm gonna do an excellent job of this it's gonna be the best work I've ever done for this show.
Okay. Good.
All right. Good.
All right. That's great.
All right. Hey.
There's a 0% chance I do this. We kind of need you to.
We really need you to. Big for socials.
This is, I mean, bonuses come into play when it comes to socials. It's Friday, right? Is Friday a weekday or a weekend? Yeah.
Hank. Hank is friday a weekday or a weekend it's a weekday it's a workday okay yeah it's a workday you gotta be working about that yeah true true it's a good point yeah so yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna be all over it all right we don't want to put you on a pip i'm gonna be all over it okay great good good love to hear that it'd be a real shame if we had to put you on a pip just because hank got to be on the duck boat with joe mazula oh max at least well that was a nice clip of that was a nice camera cut by means right there that was really good stuff yeah yeah there was a second there when when it all sunk in for max where i actually thought you were crying.
For what? I mean,

it's whatever. I already...

I didn't know he was going to be on the duck boat.

I knew he was going to be on this.

Yeah. Well, good luck with the

move, Max. That sounds

fun, too. Yeah, I'm jealous.

Honestly, as fun as my day sounds, I'd rather

kind of be... If I could switch with you, I would.

Yeah, moving, driving.

Yeah.

All right. Thanks, Max.
All right. See you, Max.
Have a good one. Yeah.
Great. So bad.
His brain, he's in the middle of moving, so his brain is not working correctly. Yeah.
And it's slowly dawning on him what we're asking him to do. Mm-hmm.
And then having it set in, and you're on the boat. It's the bus meme where one guy on one side is Max, and he's in the dark, gloomy side of the bus, and he's driving across the country in 95-degree weather, sweating, moving.
And then on the other side, it's literally Hank Lockwood on the champion's duck boat. Yeah.
Man. I don't even know what to say.
What a life. What a life.
So, Hank, maybe one thing. Summer of Hank.
One thing maybe you can investigate for me, boots on the ground during the parade. How do duck boats work? How can you drive a car into the river and then it just works as a boat? I'll investigate.
I mean, it's just put wheels on a boat, basically, and you just pull the wheels up. Yeah, but what about the engine? Doesn't the engine get in the water? Put the engine up high.
Okay. You can have engines and boats.
Yeah, so this is all things I need to know about the duck boat. There's engines and boats.
I'm very curious about how it works. Aren't there, like, some cars that can do that? Yep.
Planes? Some planes. Some planes.
Can land on the water. Yeah.
Yeah. Get us the full detail.
I want to know more about the duck boat experience. All right.
We were talking about the NCAA tournament. The NCAA is trying to move the tournament to an expanded field.
This is going to suck. Yeah.
So 72 to 76 team tournament plans is what they're trying to do. Yeah.
By eight, they're planning on changing it by four or eight teams. 64 teams is perfect.
It's well, I like the 68. We had this debate, but the sick.
Yeah. They just don't need to add more bubble teams.
Yeah. We don't need that at all.
Also, you know, what's good for the tournament is having debates about bubble. Correct.
Yes. We were pissed off.
There were some teams that got left out last year. But you never them i remember st john's i remember saying just because yeah but i feel like in a weird sick way having those teams when they do a bad job with like one or two teams it's good for the overall brand because more people are talking about the tournament yeah so now if they if they do this perfectly then it gets less buzz and i don't like the idea of 72, 78.
I like 64. I agree.
Slash 68. The only thing that I would be okay with is the idea that we have, that if you have a certain allotment of bubble teams, if you want to expand to eight teams, all eight of those teams should have to play right after the bracket's announced.
Yeah, I like that. Maybe they do almost a second conference tournament, except it's just for bubble teams.
That's the part that's crazy. It's a bubble conference.
Everyone has a chance to get in. Yes.
It's the perfect system. Yeah, you're giving an extra conference tournament to teams.
Yeah. All right, do we have anything else before we get to our interviews? Are the Yankees and the Orioles done beating each other?

I don't know.

Pegging each other?

I don't know.

I think they're pegging each other pretty hard right now.

They are doing a lot of pegging.

Yeah, I don't know if they're done with that or not,

but it seems like Aaron Judge is fine.

So the fact that he's back in the lineup, maybe the pegging will stop.

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

Oh, I did have one more thing.

This is to bring it maybe hank down a second um well what was your fire fest was it anything that happened on twitter okay so i don't know if you saw this pft but hank and the boys oh yeah this was my fire fest it was fire fest okay we'll save it all right we'll save it all right i mean it's not even a fire fest no but it's a very funny thing that you went mega viral without realizing it this week yes uh okay i did see that the yeah yeah we'll talk about we'll talk about fire fest okay quick 60 second rant uh we finished recording this afternoon because pft was in the dozen finale i got my car to leave the office and i see that the bulls have traded alex caruso for josh giddy i am mad i continue to be mad at this franchise they fucking suck jerry reinsdorf all he wants to do is win 40 games let's throw aside stella's just gonna park in my back room st Stella. Everyone gets Stella in this too.
Stop. It's giving day.
Everyone should be giving to pause. Hold on.
Keep this in, but I'm going to kick her out. Come on.
Go. Go.
Okay. Giddy.
Caruso. I love Caruso.
He's a friend of the show. I love Caruso.
This comes down to you traded a winning player in Alex Caruso for a losing player in Josh Giddey, who I'll admit Josh Giddey is young. That's not a joke, but you get it.
Josh Giddey is young, could develop into something bigger. Here's the problem, though.
Here's the fucking problem. Oklahoma City has 1,000 draft picks.
The Chicago Bulls have no direction. They want, they're happy to win 40 games every single year and, and flirt with going to the playoffs.
Never actually be competitive. Never actually spend money.
Never actually be a winning franchise. They just want to fill the entire United Center through the end of the season.
So we'd be like, oh, maybe we're going to go to the playoffs. Oh, we'll get bounced in the fucking playing game every single year.
How you do a trade with Oklahoma City and don't get at least one draft pick is fucking insane. I swear to God, Oklahoma City, you can get a contact draft pick, a contact high from them.
You just stand next to them for long enough, and they'll just give you a draft pick because they have so many fucking draft picks, and they can't use all the draft picks. And now we got no draft pick when we could have traded Caruso, who I didn't want to trade, but could have traded him at the trade deadline for draft picks.
So you basically got a player that's not going to make you better. It got you younger, but it's not going to make you better.
And there's also still no future in terms of, oh, maybe we could rebuild or tank or something. They're going to win 40 games, maybe 41 without Alex Caruso.
And Alex Caruso is going to be awesome for the Thunder. The Thunder are going to be fucking awesome defensively.
They're going to win 40 games, 41 games, and then be like, damn, I wish things had gone different. Maybe next year if we roll back the same thing will happen again.

Oh, let's trade a draft pick in this.

That's what the Bulls will do.

That's what the Bulls will do.

There's two things.

One, they're probably going to trade Zach Levine with a draft pick to get rid of him.

And then they're also going to probably trade in a historically bad draft.

They're probably going to trade up.

They're probably going to trade a draft pick and trade up to like the seventh pick from 11 i fucking hate this franchise they drive me insane jerry reinesdorf sell the goddamn team you're a joke you're a fucking joke of a guy uh and i'm gonna miss caruso okay now let's get to the interview i'm sorry that i had to do that i had to rant so we have derrick white adam theelin and then we'll end with uh fire fest of the week. I'm sorry that I had to do that.
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Okay, we now welcome on a friend of the program, very, very, very special guest, because he just won an NBA title. It is Derek white.
He's back with us. And if you hear that buzzing in the background, Hank is getting his head.
He's starting the process of getting his head shaved. Let's start there.
Cause we want to talk about the game and the championship and everything. But did you see the clip of coach Missoula telling Hank that he has to have his head shaved by Friday afternoon? Yeah.
I knew when Joe put the pressure on him, it was going to get done. Yeah.
He had no choice. I got a question for you just about anatomy, really.
Do you consider is the face part of your head? He's got it. So when Hank said that he was going to shave his head, does that mean the beard too? Derek has a beard.
He's got to keep the beard. I got the beard still.
I'll let you keep it. Yeah.
All right. So, Derek, do you have any tips for Hank once he goes full? Because, Hank, have you ever been fully shaven, bicked? No.
Never. He's never.
So is there anything that you need to tell him tips wise? Probably put some sunscreen on your head. You don't want to get a sunburn on the head.
I don't know. Enjoy.
Enjoy the process. Yeah.
Does he have to put like moisturizer, lotion, anything like that? Any special care? Yeah. Yeah.
Moisturize it. Lotion.
You know, you don't want to be looking ashy on top of your head. Yeah, we can't have that as a podcast.
That's how it looks. Yeah, yeah.
He's going to look good. So, Derek, you look good.
I just saw that big smile. You got your tooth fixed? Yeah, I got it fixed this morning.
Okay, because we were wondering if you were going to have that chipped tooth still for the parade. Because during the game, when it happened, and you came out, you had that big smile on your face face it looked like you were kind of enjoying it you were like yeah you know what there's a battle scar that i've got right now uh i mean at first i thought like my whole tooth was gone and i'm like my tooth is gone they're like oh no it's just chipped i'm like oh let's go yeah um and then like there was like a couple of seconds i was like trying to hide it and then i'm like the moment i I opened my mouth, everybody's going to see it, so I just got to embrace it.
Yeah, it becomes an iconic photo. Now, this is maybe a really dumb thought that I had in the moment, but you win a title.
It's the peak of your professional career. You probably can't be happier.
Was there a small part of you that was like, God damn it, i wish my tooth wasn't fucked up for this yeah uh after like everybody's doing pictures and everything i didn't smile at one picture yeah i just had my eyes closed like the entire time and like uh for that moment i was like yeah i wish my tooth wasn't yeah right yeah how was uh how was miami with the guys it was a lot of fun um. It was just great to go out there and enjoy the heat.
And we had a lot of fun. Yeah.
What was the environment like in the locker room afterwards? Who was celebrating the hardest? I don't know. It was just a zoo of people coming in and out.
I mean, Brizzy, it's Brizzy's birthday today, happy birthday. And he was celebrating pretty hard.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was an incredible season.
You guys accomplished so much. And you, I mean, you especially played out of your mind, it felt like for the entirety of the playoffs.
Did you feel like this was, like, the best basketball you've ever played personally where, like, everything seems to be clicking at the right time with this team? Yeah. I felt confident going into the playoffs, and I was excited to play playoff basketball.
There's nothing like it, and so I felt confident going in and just wanted to do whatever it takes to help us win. I mean, it was just.
Yeah. Is there – I would imagine not because you just won a championship, but do you think there'll be a moment in the next couple of days where you're like, man, I wish we had a game? No.
Okay. All right.
All right. So that was a dumb thought.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
I don't know. You guys were so good and you were dominating everyone that, like, it had to have been so much fun these last two months yeah no but like being around the guys and like just the the team that we had it was just a lot of fun so i i won't miss that part of it but um i'm really gonna enjoy this championship uh i can't wait for the parade tomorrow it's gonna be crazy it's gonna hopefully not get too lit no no it's gotta get too lit get too lit hank will that it gets lit.
Yeah, get all the way lit. Come on.
You have to. You never know.
You guys feel like you're a good enough team where you might get back here again, but you never know. So you have to celebrate it like it's your last time.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, yeah, definitely going to enjoy this one. Yeah.
So during the finals, you guys are obviously already such an accomplished team with such good players uh i don't know how much like a pre-game speech matters or if coaches even bother giving pre-game pump-up speeches and delivering certain messages or if it's just like you know your assignment we've worked on this go out there and let's execute but did did coach give a pump-up speech before the last game uh we had nick lavery come in and talk to us uh and he's talked to us throughout the whole year um super badass uh green beret uh amputee like went to war he's crazy story um but he came in and talked to us and was just like i'm looking at some soldiers right here and like he kind of just got us all in the right mindset, and we knew we were going to win at that time. Yeah, you could feel it.
Yeah. What was the vibe like on Friday night after you guys lost in Dallas? Was there any wavering, any, like, that was pretty crazy? We got our asses kicked.
You're like, listen, one game's one game. We're the better team.
Yeah. I mean, honestly, I think, like, before the game, everything's like just – like, you're like, oh, it's almost over.
Like, you can, like, just see it. And then, like, you just get your ass kicked and you're just like, what just happened? But, I mean, I was like, hey, we're still up 3-1.
Like, I got nothing to worry about. I remember, like, going and talking to my family and friends.
I was like, come on, let's have some more energy here. Like, it's still 3-1.
Like, we get to go back home and try to close it i'm never like going and talking my my family and friends i was like come on let's let's have some more energy here like it's still 3-1 like we get to go back home and try to close it at home like let's do it yeah i i wonder like what is that a human nature loss in a way in game four where it's like you you all say the right things you think the right things but it's pretty it's i would imagine it's impossible not to have a creep in the back of your head we were like we could win a title tonight. And having the planning in the back of your head and then having that reset probably helped.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, especially because, I mean, outside of Drew, we didn't have one before, so you just kind of look ahead.
It's still a really good team, and that's what happens when you don't really focus on what we needed to focus on. Yeah.
Are you aware of how good Peyton Pritchard is with 0.5 seconds left in every quarter? Yeah, he's unreal. That's like my one thing I missed about because he subbed in for me, and I like walked straight to the back of my teeth fix, and I just hear – like I'm in the tunnel.
I just hear the garden erupt, and I'm like, what happened? And? And someone just like Peyton. I'm like, oh, he's unbelievable.
Yeah. Is there a small part of you that's like, man, how come he's better than me in the last like just second of every quarter? What is it about that? Is it, I know it's something that you guys practice, right? It's like, this is Peyton time.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, like he hit that one earlier in the finals, but he's been doing it all season long. And everybody knows, end of the quarter, you get the ball to Peyton, he's just going to make the shot, obviously.
And it's unbelievable. Yeah, there's two things he's really good at, making those shots and also shooting free throws blindfolded.
Yeah. Tough loss for us still to this day.
Yeah, that was probably the biggest loss the Celtics took all year. Yeah.
We're actually NBA champions.

Yeah.

Well done.

Congrats.

You guys.

I do have a little bit of a bone to pick with you though, because when you came in in February and I told the story how I was in an

elevator with you in October,

yeah,

it was October.

And I,

I awkwardly was like,

Oh yeah,

our producers are big Celtics fan.

You're like,

I know who you guys are.

Why didn't you tell me then that you guys were going to win it all? That would have been nice. A little heads up? I had a good feeling then, too.
Okay, you should have shared it with me. Then I got a really good feeling.
I feel like you had a good feeling about us, too. Yeah, I mean, I thought you guys were the best team.
I did think the Nuggets were the only team that would have given you guys a series, but I still, even if the Nuggets had made it, I think you guys would have won because you proved it out all year long. So it was pretty like there's very few titles that you can really look at, and I know that people say, oh, the East is easy, but losing three games in the playoffs is like that says it all right there.
It's crazy. You guys went, what, 10 games in a row that you won like that that doesn't happen yeah yeah i know it's been a fun year like we never really had like a drought like we were just consistently uh that team and i mean just to be able to win a championship is it's unreal yeah do you think about that uh like comparing yourself and this title run that you went on to other title teams in the past and just how you would stack up to other teams? Are you just focused on enjoying how good it feels to win a championship? Yeah.
I mean, you think about it. You're like, I mean, we're one of the all-time teams.
Obviously, I'm biased, and so I'm going to say it, but just, you think about it like you are enjoying it. It didn't matter.
We lost three games. As long as we get 16 wins in the playoffs, it doesn't matter.
But I do think we are one of those teams, and it's a special run. Yeah, one of the best ones ever.
So there was a report that came out, I think it was last weekend. I don't know if it's been updated yet, but apparently you're under consideration for the Olympic team to fill in for Kawhi if he can't make it.
Is that something that you're thinking about? And is that any, like, has that progressed at all since last weekend? That's funny because when that report came out, like that was when I found out about it too. So I was just like, oh, really? Like I haven't heard anything.
So, but if i do get an opportunity to play for sure yeah yeah right by the way jj reddick was just named uh lakers head coach oh okay official shout out jj shout out your fan i'm a fan of jj yeah he's got it's good it's good for it's let's just say this right now it's good for podcast community. That means that we could probably get a job as a head coach, right? Representation matters.
Right. Yes.
I can now see myself in a job as a head coach in the NBA. There we go.
Yeah. Chicago Bears beat you.
Yeah, right. Yeah, but you can do the NFL.
Yeah, I don't think I could do, I could do the NBA. You just be like, hey guys, hustle, rebound more.
Just roll the ball out there.

Here you go, LeBron.

What?

Just make some threes.

Yeah, just hit.

Hey, it's a make or miss league.

Got to make your shots.

That's all I would say before every game to the guys.

Here's how I would coach the Lakers.

I'd say, all right, LeBron, we're drafting your son, so you're happy now.

Problem solved.

Also, Anthony Davis, you're not actually hurt.

Get back in the game.

Right. That's what I would say to him.
And then, boom boom we just upped our efficiency by like 30 right there i don't know if you're getting the job probably not probably not they don't want me all right i got a question that's uh i don't want to jinx anything but i just another human nature question you're up for an extension and a lot of money have you let yourself think about it at all i mean it pretty cool and you deserve it. And I'm very happy for you, but has your mind wandered a little? I know there's negotiations that have to happen.
I'm sure you want to stay in Boston, but have you at least like had that moment where like, I've been playing so good that this is now on the table for me. Yeah.
I mean, I thought about signing an extension before the the season started and um and when that like deadline passed i hadn't really thought about it too much but um i know my agent and uh the team are going to talk and i mean i'd love to stay in boston for as long as i can and um i'm hopeful everything's going to work out exciting and uh but yeah at the moment i'm just going to join a championship and we'll worry about that later. Yeah.
Oh, I have a, I heard your kids screaming in the background. I have a dad to dad question.
Um, have you had that moment where you like had to get back into dad life and like take care of like clean a diaper or something? And you're like, God damn it. I'm a world champion.
Yeah. This morning I had a, had a change of, uh, a poopy diaper.
I'm like, is there nobody else around here like i still gotta do this yeah yeah it's like i would i would definitely if i won a championship be like at least get a week yeah like let me get someone to help me out here i just want to ring yeah don't take the trash out anymore it's like that 50 cent tweet like fuck this i'm too famous yeah going home that's probably good to bring bring you back to level. Like, oh, yeah, I'm still a dad.
Yeah, the kids change their perspective. And when you need it the most, that's what they're here for.
Yeah, wait, how old is your oldest? Two. Okay.
Two. So you got to win some more so they can have clearer memories.
That's your motivation now. Yeah, I know.
My oldest was at the game. And then my youngest is seven months, and he wasn't at the game.
So I'm like, now I got to get another one for you, Dax. Yeah, yeah.
Dax is a Fairweather fan? I don't know. He's not in that picture.
Did you make sure to get a picture with your oldest, though, like right after the game on the court with the confetti? Yeah, yeah. I got a bunch of pictures, and he was there when I was doing the interview and everything.
So that's going to be pretty cool to look back on.

That's awesome. That's really cool.

I got some advice for you during the parade.

So it feels like there's always one player on a team right after they win a championship.

They might be in the middle of a contract negotiation like you are.

They get too lit, as you would say, and then they get up to the podium,

and then they just say something their agent wants to kill them for.

It's like, I don't care. I'm sticking around, whatever.
Just don don't say that just don't say that but just be like i love boston just stick with like i love boston be like i'll take a pay cut let's run it back um because then that sets you up in a weird space and your agent will actually want you dead at that point yeah i just told my boy that like earlier today i was like every parade there's one lie, at least out there. I'm not trying to be a part of that.
Yeah. You could also do you could do a little bait and switch where you're like, like Steve Kerr did it in the I think it was 97.
You'd be like, listen, I know that everyone was debating who should be the finals MVP. And I'm OK that I didn't win it, even though I should have something like that.
So everyone's like, oh, he's going to talk about Jalen and Jason, then you get him. You get him like that.
That's an all-time. I don't know.
I got to think of something pretty creative to top that. Yeah.
Yeah. I'll start thinking now.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So with the injury that happened to KP, we were talking about it before game, was it game four, game three? We didn't think that he was going to be able to play on that at all. And he's still out there running around.
Did you get a sense for how bad that injury was? And was it something that you were surprised that he came back from? Yeah, I still don't know really what it was and what it is. so you could just tell he like really wanted to play in like a game three like he was out but that game four like they said he was active but like i'm like i don't know how how well you're moving right now in shoot around uh but kp you never really know like before game one he wasn't moving too great and then he has a crazy first half and i'm so like i was like i he's christoph brzingis like he'll figure it out so any any chance you can get on the court and he'll help us out yeah yeah yeah have you talked to uh blake griffin at all i really wish he had taken up joe mazula's uh offer and come back just so he'd have a ring but have you have you spoken with him since you won no i haven't spoken with him yet but i know it would be great that if blake was on our team and he could have a ring for his great career but um i know what i said i told you guys he should have a ring you said no i think he should have a ring yeah i think blake deserves a lifetime achievement ring yeah you know hey i'm sure that we can send him one yeah let's make it happen blake right right now hank is still waiting to get his hair shaved right now he's just he just looks good i think i just got a good haircut and a beard trim and then he sent the barber on his way and said okay that your service is no longer required yeah he looks awesome right now this is the last you're gonna look awesome i'm excited i'm excited for tomorrow derrick was there a moment when you went full shave where you're like, oh, shit, this was a mistake? Because Hank's going to have that for a couple days.
I mean, yeah, you guys, I didn't really have a choice. Well, no, Coach Missoula told you that it wouldn't, you have to get your head shaved.
Yeah. Yeah, but was there a moment, Derek, where you were like, oh, man, this was a mistake? I mean, just the first moment when they just go go straight over they like i was like damn this is really happening but i mean i'm cool with it so i think hank's gonna be great with us yeah good good showers are gonna be so easy now hank you don't you don't have to worry about shampoo conditioner you just get in rinse get out through yeah you might also find, a whole community of women that love bald men for a whole summer.
Summer, Hank back on. You might get hired as the D coordinator for Pete Carroll.
Yeah. All these things could happen.
It could happen. It might help you dunk, too.
Oh. Streamline, less weight.
He's making progress. I don't know if you saw, but he tried to dunk in front of Danny Ainge, and he's making progress.
There we go. Here we go.
We're going to get it. Not really but I'm trying to keep positive for him because he's having a big week.
We're going to get there. Yeah.
I believe in Hank. I think that he's made a lot of progress in the last couple months.
What like six inches four inches of vertical six six. So you're tracking to be able to dunk.
Yeah. Speaking of the executive side of things, did Brad Stevens, did he show up in the locker room? Was he getting torn up after the game? Yeah, he was there at the beginning.
And then, like, we had media. I didn't see him again.
So he might have snuck out the back somewhere. I think if there's one person I want to see absolutely hammered at the parade, it's Brad Stevens.
Yeah, that would be fun. That would be very funny.
That would be fun. So you'd probably get a cop would probably come up and ID him.
Yeah. Be like, sir, are you over 21? Okay.
All right. Proceed.
How does it work with Brad Stevens? Because he obviously picked you out and traded for you and saw in you what you've become as a player. Is there a special bond with him where he's, like, you know, obviously there's other guys who believed in you, but he specifically was, like, Derek White is a perfect piece for this team.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's been amazing. I mean, he's a great basketball mind.
Like, you could tell just when he was a coach, but now that he's doing what he's doing now, like he sees and everything he brings to our team has been unbelievable.

So he's always supported me.

He's always believed in me.

Even from my first year in Boston when I played that great, he always believed in me and saw something in me.

So I'm always thankful for that.

Yeah.

All right.

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Okay. Are you going to be up there? I was like, I mean, I can see that.
So yeah probably i'll probably be up there um i mean o'shea's just his birthday so i'm gonna go back with him yep and i can see sam hauser as a sneaky drunkest one sam hauser that's my dark horse yeah wisconsin guy yeah he can drink yeah jt probably too yeah jt yeah uh kp i mean like eastern europeans can really put them back yeah they got a high tolerance so they're probably not he's not going to be the drunkest but he might have the most to drink yeah yeah this will look normal yeah he's the most likely for me to like crowd surf or like you know a clip of someone throwing him a beer or something like that yeah gr, Gronk style, smashing on the boat. Yeah.

KP in Boston are like...

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, well, Derek, have an awesome time at the parade.

I'll send you a picture when Hank goes full bald.

Just no spoilers because we're going to post this all tomorrow's show.

He's going to get shaved at the beginning of the show so people can watch this. And, yeah, thanks for everything, man.
Appreciate you being a fan of the show, and congrats again. It was an awesome season, and hopefully you get really paid, and maybe you remember your friends at Pardon My Take when you do get paid.
I got you guys. Appreciate it.
That's legally binding. That was legally binding.
That was the first line of the parade. It was legally binding.
Yeah. Yeah.
There you go. Yeah.
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And now here's Adam Thielen. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.
It is Carolina Panthers wide receiver Adam Thielen. And we're also, Adam Thielen is about to get ready to play in the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship in Tahoe, which we will be there.
So let's start there. We got some football questions, but let's start with golf.
What are we thinking going into this? Are we thinking you're going to win it? I'd love a guarantee right now, but how is your golf game shaping up for this tournament? Well, unfortunately, I can't give a guarantee. Three young kids at the house makes it a little difficult to give a guarantee, but I will say I'm never going into that tournament thinking I'm not going to try to go win it.
So I'm going to do everything I can. I got to simulate the house.
I'm grinding away on that. I'm seeking out a few rounds here and there to get prepared.
But it's the best week of the year. I'm glad you guys are going.
It's something special there in Tahoe. Not only is Tahoe special, obviously, but then you add in the golf tournament, American Century does a great job just hosting a phenomenal event, not only for the celebrities, but for the fans.
I mean, there's really no other fan experience like it in my life. Yeah, we're so pumped.
This is one of those events that we've circled for many years, being like, why aren't we out there? And finally, we're going to go out there. So we're pumped.
What's your handicap right now? So I i'm a one right now i started the season as a zero because i usually grind it down to about a zero going into tahoe and then i play maybe one round after tahoe and then it's like boom training camp don't touch a club for six months and then i'm like now i'm like grinding just to to kind of bring it back to a zero but uh but yeah i'm a one right now so you actually could actually could win this thing. Who would you say is your biggest competition? So there's like 10 guys probably, maybe a few more that have – legitimately have a chance to win it.
You know, I think every year it's pretty much Marty Fish, you know, Mark Mulder, Smoltz, you know, Pavelski. I mean, there's more guys, but those are the guys that kind of usually win it

or are right there at the end.

I mean, obviously, Curry won it last year.

He won't be there, but he's always a guy that's in the top ten.

So, like I said, there's about 10 to 15 guys or females, you know, Anika,

that really have a legitimate chance to win it.

So, it all depends on how hot of a start you get

and then how consistent you can play.

Do you have any holes in one?

I have zero. Wild.
I've played a lot of golf in my life. Started when I was like three years old.
Zero hole in ones. My dad, who started playing when he was like 55 years old and really didn't start playing until he retired last year, like a lot of golf.
He already has like three hole in ones. So I'm like, what is going on? And he probably averages 100 a round.
So it's crazy how that works out. But, yeah, hopefully I'll get it on 17 in Tahoe this year.
And then I'll sprint in there. I'll dive into the lake, try to catch football in the process, and then I probably won't finish.
Do you think maybe your dad's lying to you? Maybe he's just jealous that you're so good at golf, so he just tells you that he gets all these holes in one, so that way just it pisseses you off. Well, that's a good point because every time I play with him, he thinks like, you know, I, my probably the strongest part of my game is I hit the ball a long way.
It's always sad since I was little, even when I was 150 pounds soaking wet in high school. And so my dad, whenever he plays with me, he thinks that he's going to like try to like hit it as far as me.
And so he swings out of his shoes. He's like basically falling over when he's swinging.
So yeah, maybe that's a good point. Maybe he's just like, all right, well, this is what I got on you.
So I'm going to, I'm going to make it up and say that I've got these only ones just so I have something on it. Yeah.
Yeah. Uh, all right.
Dumb question. It might not be a dumb question, but, um, last year wasn't the best for the Panthers.
Uh, how much did it suck? Yeah, it was brutal. It was brutal.
Um, you know, losing in any, you know, sport obviously, or anything you do losing is never fun, especially when you're a competitor. Um, and especially when you put so much into it, right? Like we got these OTAs, we got all the awesome training that we do our own, you know, you go through training camp and like the grind is only worth it if you like have like a good year, you know? And, and so it's, it was definitely tough.

There was a lot of adversity throughout it.

A lot of kind of stuff that people will probably never know that happened.

It's just, you know, that you can't make up.

But at the end of the day,

I believe not only was it probably the best thing that ever happened to me,

just learning how to deal with adversity,

learning how to be a leader through major storms.

But I think for, you know, Bryce, a lot of the young guys,

maybe some of the coaches that we still have around,

like all of our defensive staff,

I think it's probably the best thing that ever happened to us

because it really teaches you a lot.

When you're winning and everything is great,

you're not really learning a lot.

You know, the most, you know, I think the most, you know know things that you get better at the most are when things aren't good yeah and so we were able to get a lot of that last year yeah I like and obviously it's kind of a jokey question but I'm more like because we're we're obviously sports fans we're watching all the games and when you have a team that's losing the jokes get made but I would imagine just like having to show up and do your job every day has to take a little bit of a mental toll in that season where it's like we're doing the process and then we're not getting the results yeah 100% and then on top of that like you know you to be a good leader it's not it's not what you're doing when you're winning it's what you're doing when you're losing so every day it was kind of like a little bit of a pep talk as I'm going to the facility, like, hey, like, I don't really care what's going on in this season. I got to put a smile on my face.
I got to have energy. I got to have excitement to go to work every day.
And there's a lot of blessings in it, you know, through this year for my family outside of football and even in the building, just like the joy that I had coming to work every day was still there. You know, like, obviously it's like, like we've already talked about it.
It's stunk losing. It's, it's the worst as a team, you know, as coming together, it's the worst, but there was, there was a lot of joy for me.
I realized it made me realize how much I love the game, how much I love being around people, how much I love sacrificing things to try to have success. So there was a lot of blessings there.
Yeah. Is there something that you're working on this offseason? Because NBA players are always like, you know, I'm going to add this element, this wrinkle to my game.
You've been in the league for a long time. You're a pretty good route runner already.
But is there something that you're trying to work on to improve on, even at this stage in your career? Yeah, for sure. And people are probably going to laugh at this.
I just saw a thing that came out saying that I'm the oldest active wide receiver in the NFL, which is wild, but I don't feel that way. But, but in that being said, I, I want to be the fastest I've ever been.
So my goal is to lean out, to be as fast as I've ever been, top end speed, change the direction. And I truly, I think I can do it.
I feel great right now. I'm excited to go into training camp to kind of these next four or five weeks and really train and push the tempo, get in the best shape of my life and just to be a complete receiver.
You know, I think a lot of times as you get older as a receiver, you're like, oh, you got to put him in the slot and he's slowing down. But I truly believe that where I'm best is being outside, playing against one-on-one coverage, beating man coverage, and going and making plays.
So my goal is to be as fast and explosive as I possibly can. It's crazy to say that because it's not like you're 36, 37.
You're 33, and that's going to be the oldest receiver in the NFL. That's kind of wild to think about.
And when you came out of college, so you were undrafted, and having to grind to make the vikings we've talked to our good friend will copton he's kind of given us a peek behind the scenes about what it's like being an undrafted guy and having to prove yourself all the extra stuff you have to do especially that first year what was the process like of you trying out for the vikings and when did you realize i can do this like i'm good enough to play in the NFL yeah so it was uh it's crazy being undrafted obviously now that I like look back at it it probably makes me more like anxious or anxiety or like uh nervous uh looking back at it than I was in the moment in the moment I was just like going to work playing football having fun not even really thinking about getting cut or what that looks like as an undrafted guy especially but um but yeah it's a wild process i think for me i i got very little reps in preseason i think i got like three reps my first preseason um i go back to training camp and like i felt like i was making plays and i'm like you know in in rookie camp obviously was making plays because i was i was not even signed at the moment and then you, after rookie camp, I was signed and given an opportunity to go to training camp and see what happened. But in preseason games, I was getting zero reps, zero.
So it was hard to really prove myself to other teams. So I'm thinking, like, man, if I get released and not on practice squad, like, I'm probably, this is probably it.
But thankfully, the Vikings saw something in me, put me on practice squad. And that's when I really knew that I could do this at a high level, because during that first year of being on practice squad, I was able to go against the starters every single day.
And it was my goal to make them as mad as possible every single day. And so when I started beating the starters day in, day out, consistently, didn't matter if it was in the field or in the red zone, it didn't matter i was going out there with a mission to show them like i am going to whoop you every single day and show that i can play at a high level when i started doing that on a consistent basis i knew i could play at a high level it was just now it's like all right like how do i get an opportunity yeah going into the next year i go and um same kind of type of deal i'm like like, you know, playing some special teams,

like maybe the seventh, eighth receiver.

Thankfully, got an opportunity to make the active roster and basically just play special teams.

And again, I made it my mission that I was going to dominate my role.

I was going to go out there, and every single time I stepped on that field,

I was going to be noticed on tape.

And I kind of kept doing that and doing that until I got an opportunity

to play receiver and made the most of it, and the rest is history.

Yeah, I mean going to be noticed on tape. And I kind of kept doing that and doing that until I got an opportunity to play a receiver and made the most of it, and the rest is history.
Yeah, I mean, it's an incredible story. I also love the fact that you weren't invited to the combine, and then you did the regional combine, and you finished with, like, top 20 times.
That had to feel good in being like, hey, you were in a 4-4-5, which I don't know how you're going to get faster than that. That's a crazy statement.
Maybe you will. But that had to feel at least a moment where, like, I belong here.
You guys didn't invite me to the combine, and I went and I showed out, and if I had been invited to the combine, I would have been a top 20 guy in terms of metrics. Yeah, it's wild because I don't think people even know that those are my times.
Right. Like some of the numbers that stack up against the guys that were in the draft.
And so at the time when I, when I got those results back, I'm like, Oh heck, like I might get, I might get drafted like late, late rounds. Like there was never a question about my tape.
Like, could I run routes? Could I catch the football? Like there was never a question about that. It was more like, Oh, he's a D2 guy.
Like can he run, you know, competition wasn't great, blah't great blah blah so so when i started putting those numbers up i'm like well they don't really have anything to say that i i can't do and and uh obviously that's not how they think about it uh they didn't i don't think a lot of people still even knew who i was um i still remember the day that i went to that that super regional combine in d and at the at the stadium there and um I I kind of you know like I said I put those numbers up so you're getting some scouts coming up to you talking to you and and so I'm like man like this is a real opportunity to to get drafted here and before that I'm like there's no way I'll get drafted I just need an opportunity yeah uh but yeah it's crazy that still didn't didn't really get any interest at I'll hop to that. that yeah I want to go back to like halfway through your career for the Vikings when Teddy Bridgewater was the quarterback and he gets injured did you throw up? well I was I didn't throw up but man I have a vivid memory of that I was as close to Teddy as he probably could be I wasn't in on the play but I was like right behind where the quarterback stands on that play I believe if I remember right I believe it's just like a jog through we were like going into week one we were just finished up all of our preseason games and so it was kind of like a jog through practice right before they make all the cuts going into week one and he just was taking a three-quarter speed drop and stumbled and tripped

a little bit and stepped wrong and I will never forget what that looked like and then just the

pain um and and what just happened ensued after that with no one really everybody in shock but

I mean unbelievable job by the training staff and those guys the medical staff to to really save

Teddy and give him another chance at uh you know save his leg and give another chance at at playing

I don't know. unbelievable job by the training staff and those guys the medical staff to to really save teddy and give him another chance at uh you know save his leg and give another chance at at playing at a high level and going into that game it's kind of wild because we just had played a pre-season game i believe it was against the chargers at home and going going into that we were like going into that week one we're like man like this is our life's out right now.
He's taking this, like, crazy leadership role and just flourishing in that. Like, so confident.
And if any of you guys have been around Teddy, like, he is one of the most fun people to be around. Because he has this really cool ability to relate to everybody and have fun but also be serious at the same time.
So, like, there was a lot of expectations there. And when that happened, everybody was just kind of like in shock and didn't know how to feel.
So, so we were in a Vegas airport on a flight to Minnesota to come to your facility to interview Teddy and Zimmer and like everyone. And we were literally sitting, waiting for our flight.
When we saw the news, We still came, but the Vikings stashed us in, like, a basement and, like, didn't – it was crazy. We showed up the next day, and the facility, like, we saw it firsthand, everyone in shock.
So we're always linked to Teddy Bridgewater being like, man, we were this close to interviewing all the guys, and that happened. Did someone throw up? Oh, man, that's – I can't confirm or deny that okay someone did yeah yeah someone probably I mean honestly I'm no idea like I'm telling you I'm still like like I'm in shock from that moment like still to this day like it was just you can't explain it you can't explain the the feeling you can't explain anything because everyone was like no one knew what to do and um no one knew it was going to happen no one was going on with teddy like it was it was crazy and uh something that i'll never forget obviously yeah it must have been a wild day um also it went during your tenure with the vikings this is 2015 um a very important contract dispute went down i'm curious to hear kind of like what happened behind the scenes.
If you guys had any strong thoughts about it, your unofficial mascot Ragnar, the Viking, you remember Ragnar used to drive the motorcycle out onto the field. This is where I think the Vikings really took a big misstep here.
He held out and he demanded a 10 yearyear contract for $1.6 million.

And the Vikings said, no, we don't need you to drive the motorcycle on the field anymore.

This negotiation is over.

And they kind of washed their hands of Ragnar.

Were you trying to support Ragnar behind the scenes like we were?

Did you advocate like, hey, you've got to pay your best guys.

Let's get Ragnar paid here so we can keep the good vibes going. Or you were you in favor of uh of the the team line at that point and say you know what that's money that could be used on facilities well I'll say this I I have a different perspective because I grew up going to Vikings games as a kid and seeing it and one of the coolest things you're in the metrodome like loud environment the noises are echoing in there and then you got the regnar on the motorcycle ramping it up brings him out of the tunnel like one of the coolest things ever in my opinion and and then like for that to happen obviously i'm a big regnar fan i'd love to have him back in fact i think why not bring him back now yeah you know get him out i think i think he's like a high school principal or he was was at the time.
That was his story. And he demanded the raise, and they said no.
So tough negotiations there, but I think they bring him back. I think that's a reasonable request.
$1.6 million, eight home games a season, 10 years. He wanted to be a Viking for life.
You want to be locked up at that point. You got to lock him up.
You got to take care of your lock a guy up like that yeah just a big time vibes guy was that hard for you since you know you grew up in minnesota you're a vikings fan you play football in college at minnesota you go to the vikings was it was it hard for you to leave did you would you ever see a world where you're like yeah i am going to test free agency yeah I'll go play somewhere else or or how did that process go down well I was about to say you know Ragnar wanted to be a Viking for life so did I and it didn't work out for either of us so um yeah no it was tough it was tough it was a it was a weird thing um you know once you get into like year 10 with the team you're you're kind of thinking like man like getting close to the end, like hopefully you can just finish it out. And obviously what a, what a story, like grew up a Vikings fan, never left the state of Minnesota high school, college.
And then the NFL, um, you know, was able to be a part of some awesome teams. And I'm like, man, this is like storybook ending, right? Like I got to watch Chad Greenway come out of the tunnel the last tunnel the last time like knew he was retiring one of the coolest moments like chills down your body i always thought that would be me someday um and then for that to kind of end the way it did was it was a real bummer obviously but um at the end of the day it's it's a business um and like if i put myself in their shoes i probably would have felt like doing the same thing.
You know, old receiver, you know, coming out of his prime. You know, they got some young guys coming up.
I totally understand where they were coming from. And at the same time, I felt like, hey, like I can still play at a high level.
And I don't want to retire yet. So, yeah, I get it.
I got no hard feelings. I love love the Minnesota Vikings organization I love everybody in that building um I still have such a a great connection with so many people in that building so that probably makes it even harder because I'm like man I'm in Minnesota right now for a little month break I just want to go over to the building and say what's up to everybody uh but it's just a little bit different but uh when I'm done playing and stuff obviously I'll be back there there and can't wait to be able to reunite with a lot of those guys.
That's awesome. So the beef was squashed with the Vikings.
What about your beef with Belichick? Still going on? That's not squashed. I was hoping to be at the roast with Tom Brady so I could roast Belichick.
But no, there's no hard feels. Obviously, so much respect for that guy.
Man, playing against his defenses, wow, that was not fun, especially when you were making plays and stuff. He's just going to take you out of the game any way possible.
But yeah, I was a little frustrated at the time. So what exactly happened? It was an injury that he then was able to use to challenge a play, and then afterwards he did a blow-by on the handshakes? Yeah, so I felt like there was a little bit of, I don't want to say cheating, but there was a little bit of stretching the rules.
And we were losing at the time. I was frustrated.
They were double-teaming me. I wasn't getting to be able to do my thing.
And I'm a little bit hot headed. I've had to work on over my career.
So I saw him kind of look at a player. Player takes a knee.
He's not even injured, but he takes a knee. Gives him time.
They had given us the first down. We were finally starting to get a little momentum.
And then, you know, he was able to challenge the play. i was i wasn't too happy so i just kind of let him know like that i didn't i didn't feel like that was uh the right thing to do but uh it is what it is yeah yeah so but everything's okay now everything's good yeah i mean he's not coaching anymore so i don't have to deal with him yeah that's true it's all good that's true because i feel like uh i feel like bill belichick would historically really like somebody like you.

Well, it's funny.

Actually, after that, I believe that going to that next offseason,

he had reached out to the team about possibly trading for me,

trying to get me from there.

So it must have been a good impression.

He must have liked that kind of tenacity or competitiveness, I guess.

Yeah, yeah. So Kirk Cousins gets talked about a lot in the media.
He's had a really good career. Obviously, you're a teammate for a long time.
What does the media get wrong about Kirk? Well, I think just the type of person he is. I mean, again, as NFL athletes or athletes in general, people only see what they see on Sundays for us, Sundays, Mondays, whatever.
And they don't see the work that gets put in to get there. And that guy is the most process-driven person I've ever been around in my life.
It's unbelievable. He does not leave any stone unturned.
I mean, he will never not be prepared for a game. and when you're on that team you you can't you can't do anything but appreciate that and to really trust it and to buy into it so I think what people get wrong is is like yeah he's made a lot of money and no Super Bowls and all that but like he's putting everything he possibly can he's getting paid that money and he's not stealing from him he is putting every ounce of uh time effort money into having the most success as a team and as an individual so when you see that day in day out you're like you know what like i'm good with it like pay him as much as you got to because he's going to give you as a team a, a great opportunity to win games just because of his process.
Yeah. Has he ever cooked grilled for you where he put a steak on tinfoil? So, I saw the pictures.
I feel like this was, like, maybe four or five years ago when he posted on. And I texted him immediately.
I'm like, what is that? And, you know, he didn't like that. You know, he was kind of like, what do you mean? It was just, you know, it's a steak.
But it looked terrible. So I'm actually going out there this summer to his place out in Michigan and going to visit him for a day.
So we'll see how his food grilling ability is and if it's any good. Yeah.
What were his ox cord privileges like in the weight room? Because I know he's a big Creed guy. He likes to blast Creed and Nickelback, I think.
Was he allowed? Did you guys let him do like, okay, Kirk, you get the playlist for one day each summer? Or was there just an open thing? Like, if you want to blast Creed, go for it. Well, I think what played into his favor is like the O-line couldn't have been more on board on that.
So they took over the OXCORD and like 90% of the it uh but but the whole line like what are you gonna do like you're not gonna say anything to alignment like they they just kind of you know it is what it is they got their own little fraternity it's kind of funny like when you think about the old line in the nfl like pretty much every room i've ever been in uh or every team i've ever been on that has like the o-line is kind of like this little fraternity. Like they're like the boys, like they hang out together all the time outside the building.
Like they always have each other's backs. And so that was kind of what it was.
And they just took over the high score and Kirk was all for it, which was kind of a cool little bit there. I like how quarterbacks always get their offensive linemen.
They usually get them like golf carts, Yeti coolers, maybe like fishing gear nice present at the end of the year do you as wide receivers do you ever buy presents for the quarterbacks if you have a great year so so that's always an interesting thing because i feel like that that that whole bit has gotten like way overblown and now has made it like super awkward for the quarterbacks because now i feel like the old linemen are like expecting like this like grand prize and like this big show like walk out into the field I'll say oh brand new ATV like it's almost like it's like the best right or something and uh I don't know I just feel like it's been overblown like yeah is it nice to like yeah hey man like you're doing a great job you're protecting me keep me healthy that awesome but uh long straight short no i've i have not boughten a quarterback a gift um maybe maybe i should uh but uh but yeah it's uh it's kind of a weird awkward thing usually you try to take care of the people in the building right that like are not like making millions of dollars and are grinding away i mean you think about you go into this NFL building. I mean, you got so many employees that absolutely give everything they have into that organization and want to win probably worse than most of the players because they've been a part of this organization for so long.
I mean, our equipment guy, Dennis Ryan, in Minnesota, had been there forever, I think like 40-some years. I'm probably wrong on the number, but it was unbelievably just retired.
Now they named the equipment room after him. But there's so many of that in Carolina.
Donnie, he's the same thing. He's been there forever, been a part of all this history.
And, you know, those are the guys you usually want to take care of and you want to, you know, get them a nice Christmas gift just because, you know, of all the work they put in. Yeah.
All right. So this has been awesome.
awesome i got a couple last questions uh the first one is the minneapolis miracle i know this is you know you know it happened whatever six seven years ago but just take me back real quick to the locker room after because i would imagine that was the coolest locker room to ever be in after stefan digs makes that catch and you guys win with no time left on the clock i've never i never hugged so many people in my entire life i mean it was like you didn't even know the people you're like yeah giving a big hug dapping them up you're like i have no idea who you are i don't know if you're part of the team but like let's go like you're giving bear hugs to everybody um it was it was crazy i mean again like you put so much effort and time and energy and

sacrifice and um into this and like that's your goal right like you're doing it all with the end

goal like get to the super bowl get to the nfc championship game to give you an opportunity to

go to school and like to win the way we did like the year we were having um and like the saints

was always like this crazy rival we always faced them and it was always a tough matchup

and then like that game like the

Thank you. like the year we were having um and like the saints was always like this crazy rival we always faced them and it was always a tough matchup um and then like that game like the ups and downs like the emotions like oh we're gonna win this for sure oh wait now we're gonna lose this for sure oh now we're gonna win it like it was like four times that you were like oh like this is guaranteed like either win or loss and for it to end the way it did like it was it was the coolest experience of my life.
I'll never I'll never get tired of talking about the miracle. People every single day pretty much will come up to me and ask me about that game.
So pretty cool. A lot of memories from that game.
Obviously disappointed the next week very quickly because had our chance to go to a Super Bowl. It was in Minnesota.
First team ever to play in a Super Bowl in their own state. So that would have been pretty cool.
But, yeah, really cool memory. Yeah, it's an all-time sports moment, and it's why we watch sports as fans.
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great polos for golf uh so let's bring it back to golf real quick you are going to be like i said at the top at the american century celebrity golf championship in tahoe we'll be there too uh what do you drive like what's the what what's your what's your average length of your drive and uh what's the one part of your game that's like i got to this to be in the top five or maybe win this thing so i hit about 330 jesus again like that's always been my like my strength but the issue is i start to get a little bit of confidence and then i like and i'm a meathead so i like i'm like oh i'm gonna hit driver even though i shouldn't like there's like a 20 yard gap right and there's like out of bounds on the right water in the left I'm like I'm a driver I'm gonna vomit and so that gets me into a lot of trouble but so I what I would say is playing like actual smart golf like thinking through the golf course like Tiger says it in a lot of his stuff books and you can read about it you can hear interviews he talks about it like he's not gonna like overpower you in a lot of ways he's gonna outthink you he's gonna he's gonna play the course how the course is supposed to be played and not a lot of people can do that so i think that's what i gotta do um i also got it out there it's all about the wedges like can you hit those 60 to 120 yard shots um which you think would be the easiest shots but when you get a little pressure greens are tough um and you get uh it's just those shots become tough so i'm going to be grounded on those 60 to 120 yard shots and try to give myself a chance at you know going and winning that thing have you thought about the arm sleeve, the compression sleeve on your left arm like you do during games? Like maybe wear that on the course. That's a great point because I've never gone to a game without the arm sleeve in my entire career or a visor.
So maybe I should wear like some sort of a visor and arm sleeve and that could maybe help me out. Yeah, I think that's a smart move.
I that early when you were talking about the biggest threats i don't think you said patrick mahomes that's interesting i don't think patrick mahomes is the biggest threat on the golf course obviously he's the biggest but uh golf course i think a little different this is how you motivate a man like that yeah he's gonna win another he's gonna hear this yeah i know he does have like a real golf hole in his backyard. So maybe he's been grinding away and he's going to completely surprise me.
And he does get better every year. He's got a great swing.
I just, I don't see him winning it. But again, like I said, I probably just motivated him.
He's probably going to blow my butt. Do you have a caddy for this? Yeah.
So my brother-in-law, he's caddy for me the last few years. And we have a great time, very similar type of people.
So he loves a game of golf, so he's been my caddy. We've kind of switched caddies over the years, but I was always like a close friend, a buddy, and so just try to go out there and have fun.
But also I tend to get a little too competitive, so having somebody that knows how to calm me down a little bit and bring me back to reality that my real job is football and not golf, I tend to forget that pretty quickly when I get out to Tahoe. It's interesting because the old saying is, you know, Minnesota nice.
I don't think you're Minnesota nice, are you? I'm not Minnesota nice, but I do have like this – my wife hates it, probably the worst quality that I have for her. But I have this ability to be like a people pleaser a little bit, you know, where I just have a tough time like being the bad guy.
But when the competitive juices flow, it's – I always say like, you know, whenever I get a chance to talk to the team, you know, talk to the receivers, whatever, like I always say like when you get in between those lines, like you can't be Mr. Nice Guy.
You can't be the same guy you are every day that you should be right like the way you treat people in the building the way you treat your coaches the way that you you know handle your business and and do things the right way yeah like you should do those things obviously but when you step in between those lines like you can't be that guy because you will not be that dog that that different type of player that you want to be if you don't like hey like i remember like playing on special teams it probably helped me with that mindset is like if you go out there and just think you're just going to go out there and like do your job like you are going to get destroyed so like you gotta like somehow flip this switch to like no like i'm a dog like i'm gonna go out there and murder someone even though i'm like unmatched like i'm not matched up to that. But also, especially when I was 195 pounds, I was usually having to lock a 230-pound linebacker that was running a 4-4.
And so I'm unmatched here, but I'm just going to turn this brain off and flip a switch and just be a dog. And yeah, that's kind of where it comes from.
Minnesota Nasty. Love that.
That's what I call good well yeah adam thank you so much man we really appreciate it we'll see you out in tahoe best of luck uh we might have to try to heckle you because we're just going to try to get in everyone's head but uh we're excited to be there and uh good luck in the tournament i appreciate it looking forward to seeing you guys out there. a month, every month, taxes and fees included.
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You know what really sucks? Having to watch your co-producer get invited onto a duck boat to celebrate a championship with many of your own former players you know what else really sucks dealing with spiders on your porch you know it doesn't suck actually being in a championship parade and also calling morgan and morgan so they can help you get you what you deserve they can't help some of the other stuff but they can help fight to get you full and fair compensation when injured their fee is free unless they win for more information go to for the people.com slash pmt or dial pound law pound 529 from your cell phone okay let's wrap up the week what an eventful week it was yeah with fire fest of the week anti-fire fest by the way um we we never talked about it but last week uh real shame happened. We got kicked out of the beer Olympics.
It was a real shame. If we had a reverse Firefest, what a shame.
I'm really upset about that. What a shame.
That is my Firefest this week. I was very, very much looking forward to traveling for four days and not getting work done.
Ah, a shame, shame, shame. Getting out drank by a bunch of celebrities that are probably going to cancel yeah so fuck damn it damn it i'm drake oh no oh no ah no drake is that was tough night that was bad talk about firefuckedrick lamar had all of la out all of la he played the song five times in a row yeah lebron was dancing the cameraman he started to get it on the cuts for it.
Wap, wap, wap, wap. I didn't realize he played it five times in a row.
Five times in a row. I just saw the one with, like, DeMar and Russell Westbrook.
That was the fifth time. The track list is like he did, like, 20 songs or whatever, and it was 21, not like us, 22, not like us, 23.
Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome.
Yeah, you saw LeBron with Savannah standing by the stage. Everybody was there.
It was wild. Tyler, the creator, also put on a great show.
Yeah. Okay, Hank, your Firefest of the week.
My Firefest of the week is apparently I'm a bad celebrator of championships. Yes.
Barstool gambling. I knew this was happening in real time.
I think I might have said it like shortly after but when you're the favorite so there uh the barstool gambling account posted a clip of the gambling cave when we won the championship it was me and feidelberg dana clemmer wanton don all the boston celtics fans and it was pretty you know we just kind of clapped dapped it up like when you're in the gambling cave is weird. I'm big cat.
You kind of happened with you too in the Cubs one. It's like, you're not really like in the mode where you're, you know, drunk and celebrating and letting out all your emotions, especially when the game was over at halftime.
We knew we were, you know, it was basically a formality at that point. So we didn't have the crazy celebration.
And then the video what uh right now is 19.9 million views in every sports fan base quote tweeted it being like i've celebrated sacrifice bunts more than 2900 quote tweets yeah yeah uh no you you are right uh i mean i think the context of the fact that you guys were up the whole game too and the series of blow up but you are right because i remember like when the Cubs won the World Series I was in we were in the old New York office and it was like me and Glenny Balls no offense Glenny Balls love him he doesn't have any he doesn't care about the Cubs whatsoever and I was just like okay like I'm looking around it's just it was a bunch of people actually rooting against me and then they won I remember game six when they beat the Dodgers to go to the Series. I was at that game and I partied my fucking face off and it was awesome.
But yeah, like being in a gambling cave like that, it's a little bit different. Yeah, if it was a buzzer beater that you guys won on, I'm sure you guys would have gone nuts.
But the way that this clip, it starts in a bad look for you guys, which is fights on the couch and he just starts yawning. He's the champion as a final whistle is blown um and this is also just classic boston it gives a lot of like gives there's a lot of red meat on the bone for people that like to hate on boston sports fans because you guys have had so much success that it does piss a lot of people off myself which is good yeah i mean that's where it's like it's like it's literally hate us because yeah it's like you have championship fatigue.
It's like when Nancy Pelosi hits a massive winning trade,

she doesn't jump around and be like, yes, I don't have to work anymore.

This is as usual.

That's how we operate around it.

Yeah.

It does look, it gives a lot of vibes of finishing 18 holes with your friends.

There's just some nice, calm handshakes.

I'm like, all right, another one.

I got a couple of the best quote treats.

This guy said, my cat gets more excited to go to the vet than this. This guy, this might be Max's burner.
He said, I've celebrated a Tobias Harris corner three in a January game to cut the deficit to seven in the third quarter harder than this. That's a reverse zone right there.
Yeah. I've celebrated harder on a ghost wipe than these guys winning a championship.
That's i've absolutely celebrated harder on a ghost wipe save a lot of time yep i celebrated iowa punting harder than this yeah that's just iowa football yeah i've celebrated finding a five dollar bill in a coat i haven't worn in a while more more than this um and then on and on and on yeah every everyone has chimed in on that yeah i just don't know really like i was thinking, what should I do? And I kind of knew that that was going to be the reaction, but I also wasn't going to fake it. I wasn't going to drop to my knees and be like.
You guys knew you were going to win after game three. Yeah.
You had a lot of great moments that cumulatively built up to much more than this final thing. You got to enjoy the ride.
And you were locked in for the whole game.

Yeah.

But yeah, it's very funny that you became a quote tweet machine meme for not really caring.

Yeah, I mean, it's been 18 years of people hating on us for winning,

and it's not going to stop, and we're not going to stop.

White yawning is so great.

It's such a good yawn, too. Yeah.
And he's, like, laying back with his belly out. Yeah.
And everyone just does a really simple high five. Yeah, it's like a 18th hole.
Like, all right, good match. Yeah, right.
All right, we'll see you later. It could be worse.
It could be a lot worse if you guys had, you know, the golfers always miss the handshakes. They always screw up the handshakes and the high fives.
I think you guys connected on just about all of them. Yeah, true yeah true yeah so if you had messed up the handshakes then it's like it becomes more of an own than this yeah this is just yeah hate us because they hate us yeah uh pft what's your fire fest all right i've got a couple um one is uh blake has started to uh to go after my penis again uh-oh yeah cock hungry that's his thing he just like he follows me around especially in the morning if i'm getting out of bed he follows me from room to room and every time i turn around i think he thinks it's like a toy that he has to like go after and try to pick up and then run away with so i have to walk down my hallway with my ass towards blake like and i'm always guarding my boxing them out i'm always like i'm setting a pick i've got two hands in front of my balls at all points when I'm towards Blake.
And I'm always guarding myself. Boxing him out? I'm always setting a pick.

I've got two hands in front of my balls at all points

when I'm around Blake.

He did make contact the other day.

He didn't bite, but he just likes to play with it.

Yeah.

Or he thinks it's a toy, and I have to keep it away from him.

Maybe your dick's too big?

No, it's definitely not that.

I don't think it would remind him of maybe a milk bone.

It might remind him of a milk bone. Yeah.
That's it that's that's been a challenge that i've been dealing with and then the other is uh that the el camino won't start again and i drove to work i was so pumped i brought it in here on on i think tuesday and that thing was purring it was so loud really enjoyed the ride in and then uh we're getting ready to tape the dozen and jeff's like can you go out to your car because i want to get a shot of you pulling up in the el camino stepping out walking into the office confidently then we'll cut from that to you walking onto the set so it looked like you just arrived so we're pre-taping this thing i'm like okay this is gonna be awesome go out to the car and then i try to start it and then it just doesn't start at all and so they're just waiting for me i'm like i'm sorry my car won't start we open up the hood i don't know i'm not a car guy there's just gas gushing out of the car and so now i've got i got to deal with that and maybe replace the carburetor and it's uh i've for the first time yesterday i thought to myself what what if i just sold it i'm not going going to. But I had the thought.
I got to be honest.

You got to wait until at least the end of summer.

Yeah.

Because you definitely don't want it in winter.

Think about all of this stuff in 10-degree weather.

Yes.

That would be brutal.

That would be very bad.

Or I could try to give it away to somebody that I hate and act like I'm giving them a present.

Like, hey, guess what?

I got you an El Camino.

I like that.

Enjoy it.

I like that.

You sucker.

Give it a max. I am going to fix it.
I'm going to fix it. Shane's dad tried to help me fix it today, and we're looking good.
Pug, what's up? Pug, you got your hand up. No, nothing's working.
Just tune into PMTV to watch everything PFT just talked about. Pug.
Yeah. Nice.
It's been a real roller coaster. Pug the plug.
Pug God. Pug God.
I can't believe we don't have anybody really inside this building that knows about cars. Really? Not really.
No, I'm saying that's surprising. Or a bunch of fucking indoor bloggers.
I feel like there would be one person that knows about cars. Chaps is your only shot for all these things.
He was like, you want me to shoot it? He's the manliest man. And then, yeah, if he doesn't have it, it's over.
Yeah. I'm trying to think.
Who else? Yeah, there's not. White boy Rick.
One of our security guards? I've talked to all the security guards. Ran through all the security guards.
White boy Rick. No chance.
I even asked a random guy that was walking down the street if he knew about cars. Yeah.
I've reached that point. That's brutal.
Hey, you want to come help me fix my car? Okay. By the way, is Pug the hottest stock in the game right now? Oh, for sure.
It's crazy. For sure.
The 99 Pug just- On the way out. It's wild, Pug.
I mean, that's just how the lottery ball goes. You don't know when it's going to hit.
You're a beast. Pug.
You're a beast. I just had an idea for like a dating app but it's young dudes that want to meet up with old guys who know about cars oh i'll do that like an old guy i would like to yeah i feel like an old guy wants to share his car knowledge i'm an aspiring car guy like i want to at some point uh own an old bronco and a cadillac and i I know that I to when that day comes i have to have my schedule fully cleared to like dive into learning about cars yeah yeah that will be my thing when i retire it would be a great thing for just an old because they have all the time in the world right and they want to work on cars and all i want is just uh like to live uh in like a retirement area with drive my bronco around and then when i want to go to the horse track drive my cadillac yeah that's a that's a winning car yeah it's a winning car um all right my fire fest is uh well it's the good it's a good news bad news situation um the the good news or sorry the bad news is I have the replacement for this podcast.
So you have to admit sometimes when you get a little older that there might be an up-and-comer that is ready to take the reins. The good news of it is I think it's my three-year-old daughter because this week my my son who turned five uh on wednesday uh my daughter refused to wish him happy birthday for the entire day that's power move and it was one of the funniest things i've ever seen i literally kept on saying can you wish him a happy birthday and she's like no and just all day just held out and i was like this is the troll queen this is the heir to the to the troll crown what about the next day did she say like happy birthday yesterday no but she was just like so adamantly we we we we sang with the candles and everything didn't sing she said before she's like i'm not gonna sing what did he do nothing she just didn't she was just not acknowledging his birthday did he ask her to he was kind of like why aren't you saying happy birthday and she's like i don't want to i don't feel like it because she's a queen yeah it was it was i just because it started the beginning of the day where i was like can you please say happy birthday to your brother and then as the day progressed and she kept on staying firm about it i just started laughing every time she refused and then she obviously obviously went into that and was like, this is funny.

I'm doing something funny. Yeah.
You gave her the reinfusion. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Because it is hilarious.
It's very funny. To just be like, it might be your birthday, but I will not be acknowledging it.
Yeah. Did she get any presents for his birthday? She stole some of his.
Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, she might be my heir apparent in terms of trolling. Because that's a really young age to have that ability to really stick it to someone that you love.
I wonder if it's going to be every birthday or if it's just his. Like, does she just have a rivalry with the oldest? For the babies, yeah.
She won't give it to the babies. Yeah, everyone else that she goes crazy for.
Yeah. Then she would really be the troll.
She has one enemy. Yeah.
Okay, hank great show great week good luck great week hank see you on the see you on sunday you're gonna have a great time it'd be a real shame if you threw up on coach don't say that i said it was a real shame you don't think it'd be a shame oh you know it'd be a real shame oh no i'm not gonna say it you think they're gonna let hank i'm gonna i'm gonna be well we already said it would be a real shame if hank had a boating accident yeah what if it was what if it was this one you're certified right yeah i know but it's still you'd be part of a boat i mean would you say would you say someone would you say a person who died on the titanic was part of a boating accident yeah i don't think there's going to be a boating accident with the duck boats going like five miles an hour down the street. But who knows? You never know.
Well, no, not on the street. We're not saying on the street.
Are they going in the water? Yeah. No.
They don't go in the water too? Well, why do they use the duck boats if they don't go in the water? Because it's a Boston thing. They just drive the duck boats.
Correct. That's weird to me.
Okay, so maybe you have a boating accident on the road. I think you can have a boating accident the road in a duck boat any other any other thing down downfall you want to wish no i said it would be a shame i didn't say that shame if you got a really bad sunburn actually you need to sun take because that's the only part of your head that looks weird i know is that it's very white let me see look give us the whole you have a little bit of a scar yeah you got a good side of your head you got a one i have one back Yeah, you have one back there, but you also have one on the side.
That's from basketball. Yeah, if there's one thing you can say about Hank from today and from the Nicky Smokes clip, good head.
Good head. Hank, good head approved.
Okay. We'll see everyone on Monday.
Let's finish with numbers.

Eight.

Let's go 18.

Banner 18.

No, it's retired.

We said we weren't retiring.

We retired 18 for Jake.

Did we?

Yeah.

20.

You can say 101.

101 would be 18.

Okay, so 101. If 18 comes up, it's 101.

Three.

All right, 101.

99, Pug.

20.

21.

64.

Love you guys. 64.
Ooh.

Love you guys. Cheers.
I'll be coming for your love again. Take on me.
Take me on. I'll be gone.'s go on to you Needless to say I'm on sentence But I'll be stolen away Though we Telling them life is okay.

Say unto me.

It's for better to be safe than sorry.

Sorry.

Take on me.

Take me young I'll be gone In a day of truth Things that you say isn't a lot of hope

Just to play my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember You're shining away I'll be coming for you anyway Lay on me

Take me on

I'll be gone

It is deep Be young In a day