Celtics Coach Joe Mazzulla Fresh Off The NBA Title, Oilers Force Game 6 And A Show Announcement

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Speaker 1 On today's Pardon My Take, we have Boston Boston Celtics head coach Joe Missoula fresh off their championship. Incredible to get Coach Missoula on the show.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about the Celtics winning. We're going to talk about Hank.

Speaker 1 We are going to put in what happens with game five of the Stanley Cup final after we talk about the Celtics. So we will be talking some hockey.

Speaker 1 We have hot seat, cool thrown, and then we have a show announcement after our interview with Coach Missoula that everyone will want to listen to.

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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, June 19th, and the Boston Celtics are champions of the world.

Speaker 6 Congrats, Hank. The summer of Hank is upon us.
It is nigh.

Speaker 1 The long,

Speaker 6 long drought for Boston, all the way back to 2018 is finally over. Five and a half years.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 6 It's really incredible that

Speaker 6 you survived this long. Maybe the biggest drought of your entire life as a sports fan.
I think it is. I'm so glad that it's over because you must have been in hell for those five and a half years.

Speaker 6 But the Celtics, they did in five games. You thought they'd do it in six.

Speaker 4 I bet them to win it under five and a half games, so that's that's just false.

Speaker 6 You said on this very show, yeah, I did say on the show.

Speaker 1 Listen, Hank, this is gonna be a Hank wet suck fest.

Speaker 6 You don't need to come in hot right now.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 Congratulations, Hank. You're better than us as a sports fan.
The city of Boston is better than us as sports fans.

Speaker 6 I'm very jealous of everything you've gotten to experience, but you had a great team. And Jalen Brown proved all the haters wrong, and he is

Speaker 6 in that top five now.

Speaker 1 He's the best player on the team.

Speaker 6 Jason Kidd was 100% correct. Congratulations to Jalen Brown.

Speaker 1 Very happy for you, Hank. Yeah.
Thank you. Hank.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Tell us before. By the way, people who are wondering,

Speaker 1 we're going to tape after the Stanley Cup, so you'll hear us react to game five. If there's any, if the Panthers end up winning and everyone's like, why didn't you say Panthers as well?

Speaker 1 We will, if they do.

Speaker 6 One more thing, real quick about Jalen Brown. You know how I know he's the man and he's Batman on that team? Yeah.
He wore the wire. Yeah.
He wore the wire.

Speaker 1 And Wendy taught us that's the man, the man who went the wire. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I do think they kind of switched that person game by game, but that's fine.

Speaker 4 It was a great night. There's truly nothing better.
The day after, you know, as fun as it is to win a championship that night, you don't go to sleep until like 2 a.m. You watch every video.

Speaker 4 You watch the locker room. You see all the quotes.
There's nothing better than the day after winning a championship as a sports fan, taking it all in, looking at all the old takes.

Speaker 4 There was a five-minute compilation of all of every single sports show saying Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum will never work together, break them up. And that's just the best stuff.

Speaker 4 It was an emotional night. It was great to watch.
Brad Stevens is the greatest GM of all time. Danny Ainge, recurring guest.

Speaker 6 You think Brad Stevens is the greatest GM of all time?

Speaker 4 I think he's got to be. He's in a

Speaker 1 conversation. All time.

Speaker 6 One title? He is in the conversation. We are having the conversation.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, we'll see. Yeah, I mean, the team is set up for a great, great run, which is the most exciting.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're thinking about the next one. I am thinking about it.

Speaker 4 I mean, you have to think about the next one. It's like, why?

Speaker 4 We made it to game seven last year. Jason Tatum rolled his ankle.
They almost came back from 3-0.

Speaker 4 We've been in the Eastern Conference finals, nothing but success. We win a championship now, and we're set up for the next 20 minutes.
Maybe a mini dynasty?

Speaker 1 Maybe a real one. Oh, I totally.
No, I'm saying already a mini dynasty final.

Speaker 4 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Speaker 1 no, no.

Speaker 6 I completely agree agree with Hank that he is laser-focused on the next one. He is wearing a shirt that says banner 18 on it.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, you've got to celebrate him when you get him.

Speaker 6 Shouldn't you wear a shirt that says banner 19?

Speaker 4 Question mark. No, I like the Celtics had a blank banner in their practice facility

Speaker 4 signifying the next one. Now they get to fill it out.

Speaker 1 Well, are they going to have another blank banner? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 The game was never really in doubt. It was the Celtics' coronation.

Speaker 1 The funniest part of the game I thought was the last 10 minutes when Tatum was trying very hard to get the MVP.

Speaker 4 It turned into a little bit of, it was Lucas staff padding. Yeah.
And then Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum just going for that.

Speaker 1 Trading off ISO. But yeah, you guys, and the Celtics were the best team by far in the NBA this year.
It showed in the regular season. It showed in the playoffs.
They had an incredible run.

Speaker 1 They only lost three games.

Speaker 1 I do think I don't want it to become a full glaze off of Hank.

Speaker 1 The story of Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum Tatum and like everything they've gone through, that is why you watch sports, and that is the culmination of like both from a fan perspective and from their perspective, of putting in the hard work and trying to get up to the top of the mountain, failing, failing, failing, and then reaching that point is very cool.

Speaker 1 Jalen Brown is like an all-time success story in player development. With, you know, when we had Danny Ainge on and he was talking about, you know, his game was far from being refined.

Speaker 1 Same with Jason Tatum, all the growth he's had. It's very cool, Hank.
It's very cool.

Speaker 1 You guys did it. And

Speaker 1 it does get to shut up all the haters that thought those two guys couldn't coexist. And you're right, Brad Stevens.
I mean, the Drew Holiday and the Christophe Sporzingis moves were all-time.

Speaker 1 I wonder who had a worse Tuesday, Marcus Smart or Emei Odoka.

Speaker 4 It's got to be Odoka. Marcus Smart is definitely happy, probably a little bit bittersweet, obviously.

Speaker 1 Odoka just had to not be horny.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Udoka fumbled the bag. Marcus Smart, it wasn't really his choice, but he does get to say, you know, he helped the culture and Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown.

Speaker 4 He was instrumental in their upbringing as players. So he, you know, I'm sure he's happy for them.
Obviously,

Speaker 4 it is sad, like it's bittersweet, I'm sure, but it's definitely a doca.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I would probably agree with that.

Speaker 6 Marcus Smart, though, not a great day either.

Speaker 6 No, I don't think he was, I don't think it was as much bittersweet as much as it was bitter for Marcus Smart, just because those are the guys that you played with.

Speaker 6 You probably really wished you were on that team, especially considering how this year went for him.

Speaker 1 And they needed the guys who they brought in for him to get over the hump.

Speaker 4 Drew Holiday was the difference maker.

Speaker 1 Drew Holiday was incredible. I still

Speaker 1 Bucs fans will get mad. I still think that I don't understand that.
Yeah, they just gave him away.

Speaker 1 And they let the Celtics. I know they didn't.
directly trade him to the Celtics, but they opened the door for the Celtics to get him.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 kind of a head-scratching move on that one. But KP, Christopse Przingis, he did play.
Hank was right. They got him in the rotation.

Speaker 6 A lot of people were questioning whether or not he actually should have been in the rotation.

Speaker 6 He was a massive liability last night. They were just going after him.
They were just like, we're going to take a three. We're going to get spacing, and he's not going to be within 10 feet.

Speaker 6 I'm glad that he got to show how tough he was and get to the game because he's probably... in some serious pain today dealing with that.
But yeah,

Speaker 6 you guys walloped the Mavericks so hard that you didn't even need a fourth guy on defense for a lot of the time. They were just a much better team.

Speaker 6 Celtics have been the best team all year, the best team all playoffs. Congratulations, Hank.

Speaker 6 You're better than us.

Speaker 1 Question. Yes.
Well,

Speaker 1 let's glaze a little bit more. Max, you want to glaze a little? You got to say something.

Speaker 4 I can get sentimental too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, get sentimental, and then I have some follow-up questions.

Speaker 4 Bay Cow remembers he was there when I started at Barcelona. Basically, for the first year, two years, I was thinking I was getting fired every

Speaker 4 step of the way. So I was like trying to think of things to do so that I could get some level of job security.
At the time, there was no Celtics blogger, so I started blogging the Celtics.

Speaker 4 Like, oh, you know, I'm blogging the Celtics. I'm doing stuff day to day.
That was basically right after the Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett trade when the rebuild happened.

Speaker 4 And so seeing it go from that team to developing. It was before they even drafted Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown like a year or two before.
And so just seeing it all kind of culminate into, you know,

Speaker 4 when they won the first championship, I was a freshman in high school. That was kind of the start of my adulthood.
And then it's like 16 years later, 31,

Speaker 4 this whole, you know, eight years of my life in the Celtics. It was just, it was a beautiful, beautiful night.

Speaker 1 Some say that you had a process and you trusted it.

Speaker 4 Big time, yeah. That's where Brad Stevens and Brad Stevens had the craziest process.
He developed them as a coach. Like he knew Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum as a coach.
He developed that team.

Speaker 4 They overperformed when he was the coach. They were rebuilding, but they still made the playoffs.
They still fought.

Speaker 4 They went to game seven against LeBron when Jason Tatum, I think that was Jason Tatum's 19 or 20-year,

Speaker 4 and then he became the GM, got in. He had a doca who was a player's coach.
He

Speaker 4 fumbled the bag, and then they brought in another even better football guy, like the best coach you could ever have, local guy, Providence, players coach to just make him that much better.

Speaker 4 Got Porzingis, got you holiday.

Speaker 4 Danny Ainge set the foundation, and then Brad Stevens just

Speaker 6 made it happen. Can you even truly say that you have a great culture, though, if you do things like not even give Grant Williams a tribute video?

Speaker 6 You see that? He was pissed about that. He said, I was pissed.
I was definitely pissed about not getting a tribute video.

Speaker 4 Did you see the video of Jalen Brown walking past him?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw it.

Speaker 4 It was like Jalen Brown and

Speaker 4 Grant Williams, like Reconnect. He was walking down a hallway, just giving people high fives, and he gave him a high five, like he was just a security guard or something.

Speaker 4 And then talked to like a lady with her baby for way longer than he acknowledged Grant Williams, then went to Taco Fall and goes, I love you, Taco. Like, he didn't say anything to Grant Williams.

Speaker 4 And then Taco, you could tell he was like, you know, love you, Taco. Like, we're boys.

Speaker 6 Do you tribute video needs to happen for Grant? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you think?

Speaker 1 He did.

Speaker 4 Grant Williams, everyone's ragged on him. That game seven against, like, he did have a huge, huge game for the Celtics game seven against the Bucs.

Speaker 1 But it's, why would you go to that? Yeah, I don't know. Why would you go to that? I don't know.
Do you think Jalen Brown was a deserving MVP?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I thought the votes, they put the votes out. I think it was, you know, seven or eight to four, or, you know, he had three or four more, which is fair.
He, he

Speaker 4 performed slightly better in the finals. I also, Jason Tatum did lead the team in points, rebounding, and assists for the playoffs.
So it's like, it just shows. And Jason Tatum said it after.

Speaker 4 I don't, it's a media thing to be like, oh, try and drive a wedge into him. But like, Kobe didn't, Kobe won two finals MVPs.
Like Steph Kirk, Andre Godal won. Andrew Wiggins won.

Speaker 4 Like, it's not that big a deal as people are trying, even though they just won the championship, even though they've been talking shit about him for so long, they're still trying to be like, There's issues here.

Speaker 6 We would never do that, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we would never do that.

Speaker 6 I do think Jalen is clearly the better player.

Speaker 1 I do think, uh, I don't think Andrew Wiggins ever won a finals MVP.

Speaker 4 Oh, Steph Curry won that. I thought he won that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Steph Curry won that.

Speaker 1 Uh, I do think Jalen Brown was a deserving MVP winner because if you look at this series, which wasn't really competitive, the only time that you could point to it and say, oh, this was the game that I thought the Mavs would win or, you know, be at least up for was game three going back to Dallas.

Speaker 1 and his second half in that game basically ended the series yeah like he he he single-handedly ended the series there so I do think he should have won MVP

Speaker 1 Tatum tried hard at the end

Speaker 1 I'm very happy for Al Horford that was cool I also got a little like it was it was cool watching Jason Tatum throw Deuce Tatum up in the air that picture you can't get emotional about that you're you got you got a cold heart all-time picture Max I would like to hear you maybe compliment Hank no thank you I would like to pass on that okay all right max is passing max what were your thoughts celtics won okay that's good thoughts that thought that that's that that's what's going on in this head

Speaker 1 going on in that head are you happy for hank no as a person a little bit no you're max come on come on max can't do this max that's bad karma but that's just billy scumbaggery that is won a billion championships i don't i'm not like happy that you got your won championships

Speaker 6 like you've never won i mean you did beat Patriots in the Super Bowl. A couple.
We did.

Speaker 5 No, I don't care. But the way you were saying that, you were like, everyone doubted them, said that they couldn't win a championship together.
That'll be great when that story is said about Embiid.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 that's what I was.

Speaker 6 Maxie?

Speaker 5 Maxie? Yeah.

Speaker 4 But I feel like he's had four teammates that he actually has just run out of town.

Speaker 6 Well, there's Al Ho Referred, there's True Holiday, Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 1 This is your moment, Hank. Why are you doing this? Don't let him drag you down.
This is your moment.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, you're right. It is.

Speaker 5 And you don't think that'll be a story of everyone being like, oh, yeah, everyone said MB couldn't win the big one, and then he wins the big one?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 There's nothing better than that moment.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to say I hope it happens for you because it's probably not. But there is nothing.
You're right that there's nothing better than when people say that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And you can just be like, send the picture with them holding the championship trophy.

Speaker 6 So you're thinking mini dynasty loading.

Speaker 4 I'm already thinking. I was looking at that picture and I'm like, the best picture ever is going to be when it's reversed.
When we win another championship, Jason Tatum's play up the finals MVP.

Speaker 4 Oh, so you're...

Speaker 1 Sounds like you're building a wedge. So you're already

Speaker 1 in the middle. Jason Tatum needs to win a finals MVP to be on the same level as you can.

Speaker 4 I'm just thinking

Speaker 4 how sick that picture will be.

Speaker 1 You think Tatum will play well enough in the future finals? Of course. Okay.

Speaker 6 It's interesting, though, because it's the day after you guys win a championship.

Speaker 6 You're already thinking in the back of your head,

Speaker 6 this kind of stinks that Jason didn't get MVP.

Speaker 1 Tatum needs to get one to even it up. Yeah.
That's kind of what you just said.

Speaker 6 It's like like there's a rivalry. It's like there's a mini Philly Boston rivalry.
No,

Speaker 4 I'm just thinking of then, then what do they say?

Speaker 4 Because it's crazy how quickly people jump to that.

Speaker 1 The tension, though, on when they were announcing the finals MVP was the best part of the game. Oh, yeah.
Like that was the most thrilling part of the game.

Speaker 6 I also think if I could be like a little bit serious about basketball here, I think that that does a disservice to the Celtics as a whole.

Speaker 6 Because if you just take Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and you put those two up against some of the other other big twos in the league. I don't necessarily think that they're the best two in the league.

Speaker 6 I think that there are some other teams that might have better

Speaker 6 duo. No, no, the rest of the Celtics.
Yeah. Like, the Celtics were an awesome team.
Yeah, they were. Like, Jason and Jalen are very, very good.
They're elite basketball players.

Speaker 6 They both sort of made one of the tiers of first team, all NBA.

Speaker 1 They're the Pistons.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 6 like the mid-2000s Pistons.

Speaker 5 That's correct. That's this.

Speaker 5 They ended Star Power, need star power to win finals last night.

Speaker 6 Yeah, well, if you were to take the starting five, even the top six or seven guys in the rotation, the Celtics are without a doubt the best team in the NBA. Like their depth is insane.

Speaker 6 They're very, very good. So when you boil it down to Jason or Jalen, you know, which one of these guys is going to be the guy that single-handedly carries, that's never going to happen with this team.

Speaker 4 No, and that's the beauty.

Speaker 4 It's a team sport. Like, I don't root for one of them more than I root for the other.

Speaker 1 Sounds like it will be.

Speaker 1 You're not rooting for the Celtics. No, I want

Speaker 4 just for the media. Because then it's like, this is what they're going to run with for the next year.
You are the media.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you are the media.

Speaker 1 You host the media. I'm not co-host.

Speaker 4 I'm not running for it. I'm happy for the Celtics.
I'm happy for the team. It is, like I said, Brad Stevens deserves as much credit as anyone.
Yeah, Brad Stevens.

Speaker 4 He's not playing the game, but Joe Missoula, Derek White.

Speaker 1 Brad Stevens made the moves to get Sam Hauser, was incredible hitting threes.

Speaker 1 Do you want to do the reveal?

Speaker 4 The shirt reveal, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, take off your hat and show everyone the shaved head.

Speaker 4 No, but I do have a plan.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 Plans are important. I would like to hear this play.

Speaker 4 I have volunteered myself.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're going to do charity, you motherfucker.

Speaker 4 To go to

Speaker 4 the first home game, Banner Night, and I will be in attendance with a fully bald shaved head.

Speaker 1 During football season? Yeah. Wow.
It would be like a weeknight probably.

Speaker 5 Also, the opposite of charity.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that is. I thought he was going to do like the Loves for Locks.
Loves for Love. Locks for love.

Speaker 6 His hair is not long enough for that.

Speaker 1 I was nervous that he was going to flip it on us.

Speaker 1 Lockwood for love. Oh.

Speaker 6 See, Big Cat, the thing about me is when I

Speaker 6 cut my hair off, I'm going to triple options for charity because I want people who are less fortunate to have my hair. Hank doesn't think about other people that way.

Speaker 4 I don't think anyone wants this hair.

Speaker 1 So, Hank,

Speaker 1 you deserve your happiness.

Speaker 1 Again, I don't. I don't know.
Does he? No,

Speaker 1 he deserves his happiness. The happiness that he has, there's something to back it up.
Yeah. I'm not wishing for him to be happy, but he deserves the happiness.

Speaker 6 Are we saying he deserves it in terms of he's worked so actually, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, he deserves to be happy right now.

Speaker 6 Right now, because of what happened. Correct.
I also think five and a half years is a long time.

Speaker 6 You put in the grind, so respect. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 And there is,

Speaker 1 like I said before, the Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, people can do revisit history, but there was a very big debate of whether those two guys can do it together. And they proved they could.

Speaker 4 Did you like Jalen Brown holding up the trophy with his left hand?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 Because he can't dribble with his left.

Speaker 4 He's the finals MVP.

Speaker 1 That is true. He's the finals MVP, which is pretty crazy.
It's actually the most amazing thing ever. War the wire.
To be the finals MVP without only using one hand.

Speaker 6 Yeah, imagine if he could use two.

Speaker 1 Be every MVP.

Speaker 1 Can I?

Speaker 1 Well, let's talk about the maths real quick.

Speaker 4 Also, the clip, and again,

Speaker 4 I shouldn't.

Speaker 4 be positive. Oh.

Speaker 4 And I got people were mad at me for that.

Speaker 1 Wait, what are you going to say?

Speaker 4 Did you see the video? And

Speaker 4 it was a good move. Kyrie, you know, he lost, but the leadership, but he waited on the court and dapped up every Mavericks player as they were walking off.
Like, he was the first one in line.

Speaker 4 He stepped back and then was dapping all the players up, waited for the last person, followed him in the tunnel. It was just green and white confetti just falling on his face.

Speaker 1 You liked that. I liked it.
Yeah. I liked it a lot.
I liked it a lot. I liked it a lot.

Speaker 6 He also kind of.

Speaker 1 You sound like you're getting horny right now.

Speaker 4 It was, and I didn't want to even, you know, I was just tweeting about the Celtics. I didn't want to

Speaker 4 say it, but it was, I watched it many times.

Speaker 6 He gave a little shout out to the fans, too, on the way out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he had him.

Speaker 6 I feel like the rivalry's over. It's 100% over.

Speaker 4 He hasn't won in Boston, and it's like he, you know.

Speaker 1 One in 13.

Speaker 4 One in 13, and I think

Speaker 4 0-9 or something.

Speaker 6 In Boston.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 So, what I was going to say with the Mavs, as bad as that finals was, I feel like you can. I would buy stock in Luca because it feels like he's getting shit on.

Speaker 1 He's 25 years old, and he's made all NBA, I think, four out of his first five years, something like that.

Speaker 1 And Derek Lively is going to be really good for a really long time. They probably need to add a couple more pieces, but

Speaker 4 you hear what he... But Mavs fans, like,

Speaker 4 at his press conference after he did the...

Speaker 4 I might be a free... Like, I got some things to think about.

Speaker 6 Oh, I didn't see that. What does he have to think about?

Speaker 4 That is what they they say when they might be doing be free agent or something.

Speaker 1 Oh, right? Is that

Speaker 6 what they are saying when they might be doing free agent?

Speaker 1 I think Luca just needs to get in better shape because this entire finals, every first half, he was the best player on the court, and then he would start to fade.

Speaker 1 And that is credit to Celtics' defense, which is phenomenal.

Speaker 1 But either way, I would be buying stock in the Mavs because as much as that sucked and you were far away from winning the title because it wasn't really a competitive series,

Speaker 1 you do have like like a young nucleus that feels like it will be competing for a lot of years going forward.

Speaker 6 Materik Lively, yes. I don't know if you're going to get the same Kyrie and Luka magic at the same time that we had this.

Speaker 1 I think Luca is going to be... Luca is

Speaker 1 the path that Luca's on, he's going to win a title. I would put,

Speaker 1 I'd bet it right now, Luca will win a title.

Speaker 6 I think he probably will. I just don't know if it's going to be with Kyrie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, like, Luca, if the Mavs can keep Luca, you should be, like, if you're a Mavs fan, as much as today sucks, you should be like, well, we have Luka, so we have a chance to win a title essentially for the next seven to ten years.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, the way that your team's constructed, you

Speaker 6 silence a lot of critics when you beat the Timberwolves, when you beat the Nuggets. Or no, the Timberwolves beat the Nuggets, you beat the Timberwolves.
That was a big series for you guys.

Speaker 6 It's not a fluke that you're there. Yeah.
You're that good offensively. And the defense is pretty good, but the problem with the Celtics is they're just too deep.

Speaker 1 What do you find in Hank? You find in this?

Speaker 4 I'm trying to make sure he said that.

Speaker 1 I don't think he did. I don't see it.

Speaker 5 I have one thing that we didn't talk about. Actually, memes brought this to my attention.

Speaker 1 Okay, because I have another thing that's maybe going to get a little negative that I don't maybe Hank should leave the room

Speaker 1 for, but go ahead.

Speaker 5 Well, mine is the

Speaker 5 Jason Tatum, Kevin Garnett.

Speaker 1 Yes. So that was it.
That was what I was going to say. Hank, would you like to speak at all about the fact that Jason Tatum has negative aura?

Speaker 4 I think we have a real-life case of this in our own crew, and it's just something with the younger generation. Like, everyone, it's just all nostalgia.
In today's day and age,

Speaker 4 they wear the old jerseys, they just remake the same movies, everyone's on social media, the memes.

Speaker 4 He has a little bit of that. Like, he just kind of speaks in memes and thinks in memes.

Speaker 1 Oh, you mean with your own current shot at memes? With our own crew.

Speaker 6 Who do you mean?

Speaker 4 Memes speaks in memes.

Speaker 6 Does speak in memes? Thinks in memes. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He thinks in memes.

Speaker 6 So you think Jason Tatum speaks and thinks in memes?

Speaker 1 It just didn't feel authentic, which, again, this is very nitpicky because they just won the title.

Speaker 4 They did do it. They did do it.
He said, we did it.

Speaker 1 They did it. And then he also did the Kanye at the after party.
Uh-oh.

Speaker 4 That was a. He's just

Speaker 4 speaks in memes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he speaks in memes.

Speaker 6 What was the Kanye?

Speaker 1 It was like everyone was wondering what would happen if we didn't win the title. I guess he'll never know.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 8 For a second, I thought. No, not the other Kyane.

Speaker 6 He might have thanked his doctor. I'm not going to say what kind of doctor.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 It was.

Speaker 1 I don't. Honestly, I don't.

Speaker 4 I don't give a shit. Nor should you.
He doesn't have aura.

Speaker 1 No, nor should you, but it.

Speaker 4 And he does. Would you?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know if he has aura.
Jalen Brown has aura. Jalen Brown has aura.
Wearing the mask. Yeah.
Something about Jalen Brown. He, like, he seems very cool.
Yeah. What?

Speaker 1 Would you say Jalen Brown has more aura than Jason Tatum?

Speaker 1 No. Oh.
I think they have equal aura. Do you? That's.

Speaker 1 No, you're not.

Speaker 1 How can you have the same aura when Jalen Brown has a finals MVP?

Speaker 4 I would say that Jason Tatum I feel like you either have aura or you don't right and Jalen Brown has it and Jason Tatum doesn't have natural I think it's a rare thing to have

Speaker 1 yeah almost as rare as winning finals MVP

Speaker 6 I'd say exactly as as rare yeah

Speaker 6 so when so they both have no aura

Speaker 4 just be honest with us for a second it's okay that's Jalen had I'm not trying to I'm not trying to shit on either I'm not trying to say he has no like

Speaker 4 me yeah, Jalen Brown has a little more aura, but they both have aura.

Speaker 1 He's trying to drive a wedge.

Speaker 6 I think Deuce has aura.

Speaker 4 Deuce had the best night of his life.

Speaker 6 Deuce has way more aura than his dad. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 There is, I mean, it's like, yeah,

Speaker 4 that kid got to, he was an NBA champion last night.

Speaker 1 Listen, no one cares. Like, Jason Tatum doesn't care that people are making fun of him online right now.
He just won the title. Who cares? It would be funny.
But

Speaker 1 it was a little bit of a.

Speaker 6 He's like refreshing the timeline, seeing all the memes, and he's immediately like put down in the dumps with the trophy.

Speaker 6 They're clowning me. They're saying I'm corny.

Speaker 1 What did he say when he tried to do the KG?

Speaker 4 The best, he said, we did it.

Speaker 1 We did it.

Speaker 4 We did it.

Speaker 1 But they did.

Speaker 5 Right. He looked up the same way the KG did.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It looked like he practiced it.
When I want just an authentic moment there. Like he'd just be authentic and be like,

Speaker 1 that was fucking awesome.

Speaker 4 On the flip side, the picture of him throwing deuce is the most authentic picture. I agree.
And that's one of the best pictures in sports history.

Speaker 1 That had a little aura to it. Right.
It was more deuce, but that had aura.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it wasn't the most natural moment.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, there we go. We got that.

Speaker 6 You don't think texting Kobe and then posting a screenshot, that's not aura?

Speaker 1 I don't think so. No?

Speaker 6 You think he texted Kobe?

Speaker 1 It is cool, though, looking back at the Tatum when he tweeted at LeBron asking for a follow. That's one of my favorite.
Yeah. When he...

Speaker 4 Let me pull it up.

Speaker 4 And they had Jalen Brown, I think it was right after he got drafted or before he even got drafted, he went to the finals when the Warriors were playing and they were following him for like NBA TV or some

Speaker 1 piece.

Speaker 4 And he was just like,

Speaker 4 I want to get here. I'm going to get here.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And like the young Al Horford, the picture, you know, because the crowd.

Speaker 1 Al Horford, I'm very happy.

Speaker 4 He was on the Celtics with young Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown,

Speaker 4 and left, and somehow the teams let him come back.

Speaker 1 Right. And what happened when he left?

Speaker 4 He signed a huge contract, got a fat bag, fat bag from the Philadelphia 76s.

Speaker 6 They didn't have any other players that they were going to give that bag to.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, I mean, it's a great, I mean, the NBA champion.

Speaker 1 Oh, except John James. College champion.

Speaker 4 It was a good, good, good signing for them. Bad organization, so they didn't work out, but it's just a miracle that he got back basically for nothing, which, again, is Brad Stevens.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Jason Tatum tweet to LeBron was when he was 14 years old. He said, King James, follow back.
It's Larry Hughes, nephew from St.

Speaker 1 Louis, and Abe and R.J., little cousin, and Justin's son, follow back.

Speaker 1 I love that.

Speaker 4 I love that. And the Matthew to Chuck.

Speaker 1 What did you say?

Speaker 1 What is it?

Speaker 4 Ta-Chuck.

Speaker 1 Ta-Chuck.

Speaker 4 Isn't it spelled?

Speaker 1 Learn Puck.

Speaker 5 Yeah. You gave him a shout out afterwards.
He's like, get another one for a kid from St. Louis.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, that video is viable.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it is. It is.

Speaker 1 And we'll put in what they're doing.

Speaker 4 I love basketball.

Speaker 1 In a second, yeah. But yeah.

Speaker 4 My guy, Matthew Tuchuck.

Speaker 1 So you're okay with just the allegations of negative aura.

Speaker 4 But you also literally just said that the picture of him and Deuce was aura. That's a picture of the picture.

Speaker 1 That was also because of Deuce.

Speaker 4 Minus, but

Speaker 1 Deuce had the aura. He's aura the Explorer.

Speaker 4 So he's got aura DNA. He's got aura in his DNA.

Speaker 1 No, it could come from the mom.

Speaker 6 No, it could come from the mom. It's true.
It could come from the moment. You inherit that from mother's side, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 You know who's got aura? It's Derek White. Yes.
Derek White's got aura. He's the best.
Smashing the tooth open. What did he say afterwards? Like, I would give up all my teeth for a championship?

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure he was concussed. Yeah, yeah.
Because he did not. He was like deadpan.

Speaker 1 And we were talking about it in the gambling cave. It has to suck.

Speaker 1 I know that it's obviously incredible to win a title, but you win a title and you're like, this is going to be the best week of my life. We're going to go party.

Speaker 1 And in the back of the head, anyone who's ever had tooth pain, he just keeps running his tongue over his broken tooth, being like, God fucking damn it. Yeah.
This fucking sucks.

Speaker 6 Like you've gone all your life with a great smile. Yeah.
And then you get ready to take the most important picture of your life and you're holding up the NBA trophy. He did no teeth.

Speaker 1 That's badass, though. Yeah.

Speaker 6 It is cool. And it's a hockey guy move to say, like, yeah, I'll give it my best.

Speaker 4 And those are the pictures that that get, like, hung up in bars forever. Like, it's always, like, the cool, like, bloody, or, like, whatever.
Like, that's, that's a badass picture.

Speaker 1 But that does have to suck, though, deep down where he's just, like, god damn it, I wish my teeth weren't broken.

Speaker 4 I feel like that's like after the parade, because he's going to have adrenaline. They went to Miami.

Speaker 4 I think Windhorse said they wrote on the

Speaker 4 whiteboard before the game, flight to Miami at noon.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 6 They had it booked. I like that.
That's pretty cool. Happy 617 day, also.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 617 days. Pretty called it.

Speaker 6 Are you guys doing championships every time the

Speaker 6 cicadas come out?

Speaker 4 No, that's way too much time.

Speaker 1 No, wait for the Celtics.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I hope not.

Speaker 4 This is, and it is like the

Speaker 6 last two championships. What, 2008?

Speaker 4 It's 16 years, yeah.

Speaker 1 So the Cicadas are 17.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I don't want to.

Speaker 4 Hopefully, we don't wait this long. It is, again, that 2008 Celtics team is when I fell in love with the Celtics and really started following them after that.

Speaker 5 Front runner.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 4 yeah, I mean, mean, a little bit for sure.

Speaker 1 God forbid you root for a team that's good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, I was like, I was 13 years old. It wasn't like I was like,

Speaker 1 Max is really hurt right now. He's in, he's just

Speaker 4 like a die-hard Sixers fan when you were 11.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I was of every sport when I

Speaker 4 was a Celtics fan, but I wasn't. I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I was like watching every game and following it.
After that season, I started following it forever and here on out.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you and I are just different. That's fine.

Speaker 1 He's hurt. He's a hurt animal.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 4 it was great that they won one. They're Legends Forever.
It did, you know, it does feel, and they say it, that it, you know, they should have won more. They could have won more.

Speaker 4 So hopefully that doesn't happen again.

Speaker 6 What did Dave say afterwards? Heroes die?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Legends Forever. Screwdriver said he got a little too high from the cigar.
What happened with Donnie letting the scar on the wrong end?

Speaker 4 That was great. I don't know what he was thinking.
I think that's just Donnie being Donnie.

Speaker 1 Did you guys go party?

Speaker 4 No. I played pinball here for like an hour and a half.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's beautiful. Drank some Coors Lights.
You also just showed up very early today, earlier than usual.

Speaker 4 No, I go, I showed the same time. I go to the gym eight to nine, then I walk in.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You were here. A pep in your step.

Speaker 4 So much. I mean, it's

Speaker 4 the best.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you get any nice texts. I didn't sleep.
You're watching every highlight.

Speaker 5 All right, we've done enough of this.

Speaker 5 We already did this. Come on.

Speaker 6 You get any nice texts?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who anyone congratulates you here?

Speaker 5 I did not.

Speaker 4 Jake texted me. Big hat texted me.

Speaker 1 I think that's it. Wow.
I verbally congratulated you.

Speaker 6 The first thing I said when I saw you was what?

Speaker 5 Yeah, you said you had to do it. And you did at halftime when you left the office.
Oh, yeah, I did earlier.

Speaker 1 So memes and max did not.

Speaker 4 Memes and Max did not.

Speaker 4 Memes was quick to post, you know, a third post share.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But the bald head got rave reviews.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it does. It's good.

Speaker 6 Oh, how about Missoula, by the way, coaching on a tournament Niskis? I know.

Speaker 6 Fucking beast. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll ask him. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, okay, let's. We're going to take.

Speaker 4 I mean, we could keep going. We can honestly talk about this.

Speaker 6 No, I do have one more stat here. So, Peyton Pritchard, the king of last-second shots in the gambling cave, we called it before it happened.
Yep. Like, put him in.

Speaker 6 He can close out a quarter like nobody's business.

Speaker 6 Stathole looked this up. He is 10 for 37 with less than one second left in a quarter.
It's pretty good. He's one of the better players of all time.
You know who the best is?

Speaker 1 Pal Gasol.

Speaker 6 Pal Gasol shot 47%. He went 22 for 47 in his career with less than one second left in a quarter.
Wow. That's crazy, isn't it?

Speaker 6 Shout out to the kids.

Speaker 1 Clutch. Clutch.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the slow-mo cams with that are great

Speaker 4 when he just takes like 10 steps.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Knowing that,

Speaker 4 because in real time, it doesn't,

Speaker 4 you're not going to catch that. But when they have the NBA Phantom cam,

Speaker 1 it's great to see. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we'll talk about the Stanley Cup, and then we're going to do Hot Sea Cool Throne.

Speaker 1 Okay, PFT, we promised the people that we would update the show before we get to Hot Sea Cool Throne in Joe Missoula with Stanley Cup final game

Speaker 1 five.

Speaker 1 And we thought we would be talking about another championship tonight. Instead, they're dragging their ass back to Alberta.

Speaker 6 That was... We got ourselves a series.

Speaker 1 That's what they kept on saying. I love that.

Speaker 1 Don't let us drag you back to Edmonton. Don't let us do it.
We're going to drag you all the way back. And Conor McDavid was fucking unreal.

Speaker 1 That goal, I think it was the third goal, fourth goal, maybe,

Speaker 1 where he just diced up the entire Panthers defense and then dished it at the last second to Corey Perry. I'm starting to think this guy could win the big one.

Speaker 6 So Connor McDavid should just do that every single time. If he's capable of doing that, just do that more.
And I I think that's the key to the game.

Speaker 6 Not to get all technical and in the weeds when it comes to hockey strategy, but just have Conor McDavid go one on four and then make a sick pass at the end. And that's pretty much unstoppable.

Speaker 6 I don't care who Bob thinks he is, but you're not stopping that guy. It was awesome.
It was good hockey. Second period, period of the week.

Speaker 1 Yep. Easy.
And actually,

Speaker 1 even the end when the goalie gets pulled and you're like, okay, game's over, the Panthers survived like multiple times where I thought there was going to be an empty netter and kept you on the edge of your seat.

Speaker 1 And it was just a great, great hockey game. The NHL is going to have to step up where the NBA failed us in maybe delivering us a classic final.
If this one goes seven, whoo? I mean,

Speaker 1 it was just great hockey. Great fucking hockey game.

Speaker 6 I'm putting this on the nation of Canada, our hat. Our neighbors to the north.
Canada, do the right thing. Give us seven games.
This is a a legacy series for Canada.

Speaker 6 Need to just buy some time before we get into dog days. If the hockey is going to be this good, I want more of it.

Speaker 1 I want two more games.

Speaker 1 I agree. I agree.
What did Conor McDavid? He had

Speaker 1 two goals and two assists. Two goals and two assists.
Yeah. He was crazy.

Speaker 6 The save that Katchuk made at the end is going to not be talked about. Maybe, you know what?

Speaker 6 I actually think that now that I'm saying it, just people will say nobody's going to talk about the Kachuk save. A lot of people are going to talk about that part of it.
But it was awesome.

Speaker 6 Hustling at the end, and he should have knocked the net off its moorings. That would have been a smart play, a heads-up play.
But yeah,

Speaker 6 it was great hockey. The cats are getting dragged back.
I saw a lot of gifs of cats just getting dragged across rooms.

Speaker 6 Kind of concerning that it's so easy to find a gif of a cat getting dragged, but here we are on the internet. But yeah, let's go hockey.
Give us more.

Speaker 1 Great hockey. Great fucking hockey.
And we got a game six dragging all the way back to Edmonton on Friday night. Before we do hot tee, cool throwing back to ourselves.

Speaker 1 Hank, I know that we talked about Aura.

Speaker 1 Have you seen the video that is now circulating?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Oh, can I send it to you and get a live reaction? Max, I'm sure you have seen this. No? I have video circulating online.

Speaker 4 I can just, I feel a reach.

Speaker 1 No, it's not a reach at all. It's not a reach at all.
It's just a mashup. It's a fun fun mashup.
And I want you to watch it.

Speaker 1 And everything I said stands.

Speaker 1 Tatum shouldn't have to apologize to any.

Speaker 1 He's a champion. Who cares if he's getting made fun of online? But I saw it, and I had to bring it up.

Speaker 1 I sent it to everyone.

Speaker 1 Why don't you narrate it,

Speaker 1 Max? Why don't you narrate it when you're watching it?

Speaker 1 This is after what we talked about all of this. I know we did.
But this is the new mashup that I didn't realize is all of it.

Speaker 4 What are they going to say now? Like, Steph Curry's not the only person that said that.

Speaker 4 There's no, like, it's a video of Jason Tatum saying what they're going to say now, and then Steph Curry saying it.

Speaker 4 I would have to imagine that's said in, like, a majority of championship locker rooms after a win. No?

Speaker 5 But it's a little bit tougher after he's already done it two other times in the same night with other people.

Speaker 4 The KG one, he didn't say anything is possible.

Speaker 1 He didn't.

Speaker 1 He said

Speaker 1 he was trying to do

Speaker 6 his body language.

Speaker 1 That's people's interpretation. The exact same thing.

Speaker 4 Art is interpretation. You're interpreting that way.
Like, that's, he didn't copy Kevin Garnett.

Speaker 4 If you're saying that Steph Curry has trademarked the phrase, what they're going to say now, that's crazy. The Kanye one, that was word for word.
He did it on stage in the same way.

Speaker 4 That was imitation.

Speaker 1 That was.

Speaker 1 Was there another one in there?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 6 this is a good video. This is a very interesting video, and it's from Hater Report.
I'm going to have to give Hater Report a follow.

Speaker 6 It sounds like they're doing good things there.

Speaker 4 It's pictures of him hugging the trophy, and then a picture of MJ and Kobe hugging the trophy.

Speaker 1 Every fucking player. I agree with that part.
That part was a reach. That part was a reach.

Speaker 1 That part was a reach. I couldn't.

Speaker 1 You know what he did?

Speaker 1 What are they going to say now? What are they going to say now?

Speaker 6 Hank, you know what he did right after they won? He sprayed champagne.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh,

Speaker 1 what? Yeah.

Speaker 6 Just like, just, I can think of a couple guys that have done that.

Speaker 1 He's Bron,

Speaker 6 Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's

Speaker 1 probably a reach. I'm just,

Speaker 1 I just, it was going viral on Twitter, so I thought we would talk about it, but that's fine.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, it's fair.

Speaker 1 I do like the cat. I don't think Tatum should apologize for anything.
I'm on your side, Hank. I'm just pointing this out.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying

Speaker 4 what they're going to say now is Steph. I can't get over that one.
Like, that one is

Speaker 1 trademarked.

Speaker 4 I can't even, like,

Speaker 1 what they're going to say now? Have you heard it?

Speaker 1 What they're going to say now? All right. Let's, you know what? Google will decide what they see what the Google trend on that is.

Speaker 4 There's probably a book written about it, about like the fucking

Speaker 1 19

Speaker 1 first hit is Steph Curry.

Speaker 4 Wait, Hank. I'm seeing Jason Tatum.

Speaker 6 Hank, what were you going to say? There's probably a book written about it?

Speaker 4 Yeah, about like the fucking St. John's Chicago men's basketball team from 1990 or something.

Speaker 6 Like, what they're gonna say now, St. John's Chicago, yeah, 1990.

Speaker 5 But the fact that there's so many people that have titled like videos, What They Gonna Say Now, Steph Curry, what they gonna say now, Shaquine Holloway, head coach.

Speaker 1 What did he say? Where are you seeing that? What did they say now? Oh, Angel Reese

Speaker 1 said, What they gonna say now, huh? Steph Curry,

Speaker 1 what they're gonna say now. He did do a tweet too.

Speaker 1 He's a lot of the top.

Speaker 4 Soul retriever on Instagram. What are they gonna say now with a video of his shoes? 57 likes, two comments.

Speaker 6 Sounds like it's pretty.

Speaker 4 Sammy Hager, what they gonna say now? 1987.

Speaker 1 Wait, Sammy Hagar?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hager.

Speaker 1 Sang for Van Halen? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Wills Alatoris in 2022 when he made the final putt.

Speaker 1 What are they gonna say now?

Speaker 4 That one is, that's such a, that's that's a beyond reach. And he didn't copy KG.
They're just like interpreting that video that way, but he didn't say the same words.

Speaker 1 Ron Suno and Zay Muna. What are they going to say? Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're debunking this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is good.

Speaker 1 We've debunked. Yeah, I agree.
Still bad aura.

Speaker 1 That's I can't wait for it. I can't wait for the teacher.

Speaker 4 It really just shows the true salt and and denial that the haters are in.

Speaker 1 No, but it's good.

Speaker 6 This is an ongoing narrative. Now we can take every word that he says in public and then cross-reference it to see if it's plagiarized.
I like that.

Speaker 1 Friends, 1994, season 6, episode 3. You're going to say things now, aren't you?

Speaker 1 That's basically the same thing, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, last two things before we get to Hot C Cool Throne. RAP Willie Mays, incredible life, incredible baseball player, one of the most iconic catches of all time.

Speaker 1 I mean, is he

Speaker 1 on the Mount Rushmore baseball players, right?

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 he's in the GOAT category.

Speaker 6 A lot of people, if you're like above the age of 50, you think that Willie Mays is the best baseball player to ever live.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he served. Yeah, the Say Hey Kid.
Great nickname.

Speaker 6 And that catch, the over-the-shoulder catch, every time I watch it, I'm always amazed that they actually played baseball on that field.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The polar grounds.

Speaker 6 It was like 500 feet to straightaway center. It was a rectangle.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's all-time, all-time legend.

Speaker 1 93, hell of a life. That's a hell of a life.

Speaker 1 We all would be lucky to live to 93. But how is it? What is the Sayhei Kid from?

Speaker 6 I think there was a song that they wrote about him called Say Hey.

Speaker 1 It's given his famous

Speaker 1 moniker, Say Hey Kid.

Speaker 1 Quit costing the ball club money with long-distance phone calls and join the team. It was also around the time that Mays is giving his famous moniker to the Say Hey Kid.

Speaker 1 He uh, yeah,

Speaker 1 one of the greatest of all time. So, R.I.P.
Willie Mays. And then what happened with Aaron Judge?

Speaker 6 He got hit by a pitch and he got x-rayed. So they were saying that maybe they threw at Aaron Judge intentionally.

Speaker 6 That might have just been Jason Luck and For the old Washington Post guy that was saying like good I'm glad they threw out him because

Speaker 6 Soho ran into the third baseman on the Orioles and I guess knocked him out of the game with a hip injury. And so

Speaker 6 some people were saying that maybe they went inside on Judge as retaliation for Soto. I don't know if that's the case.

Speaker 6 I don't think that's the case, but I think the x-ray you said, Jake, was negative, right?

Speaker 5 X-rays and scans have been negative.

Speaker 1 Oh, I found the say, hey, kid.

Speaker 1 Mays received $6,000 for signing with the Giants after graduating high school in 1950.

Speaker 1 New York Journal American sports writer Barney Kremenko said that in Mays' rookie season, the reticent Mays would blurt, say who, say what, say where, say hey, what are they going to say now?

Speaker 1 In my paper, I tabbed him the say hey kid. It stuck.

Speaker 1 That's great. I added the last one.

Speaker 5 When I answered on MLB Network, the cafeteria was the say hey cafe.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 I mean, nothing

Speaker 1 is way better than getting a cafeteria named after him. I mean,

Speaker 6 don't act like you wouldn't be flattered by that, big cat.

Speaker 1 Duh, better than an airport.

Speaker 6 Yeah, absolutely. Cafeteria is not bad.
People are happy in a cafeteria.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would much rather a cafeteria than an airport or a highway. Those would suck.

Speaker 6 I think my dream is a horse.

Speaker 1 Horse would be good. Horse would be good.
That would be great. To say, hey, horse.

Speaker 4 What if it loses?

Speaker 1 Yeah, true. Hank had a horse named after him, and it sucks.

Speaker 1 He's just finishing his race right now at Saratoga. That's how slow he was.
And that was he raced 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's kick it to ourselves. Hot T Cool Throne.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's do Hot T Cool Throne.

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Speaker 4 My hot seat are the haters.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 any in this room?

Speaker 4 Not in this room.

Speaker 1 Any in the other room?

Speaker 4 No, not them.

Speaker 4 They're not in the hot seat. They know where they're at.

Speaker 4 But the Oilers girl

Speaker 4 came online and just made a video just saying she's sick of the haters and to fuck off, basically.

Speaker 1 Good for her.

Speaker 6 What? She had haters?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll play the clip. She did have some haters.

Speaker 6 Can we do the video of the clip, actually?

Speaker 1 Wait, no, Max will get the clip. Here we are.
So it's not long and hard.

Speaker 6 I want to watch the clip.

Speaker 5 Me as goes, the name's Kate.

Speaker 5 He's got all the info.

Speaker 9 Oilers, girl. Actually, my name's Kate, but

Speaker 9 here we are. So I've thought long and hard about what I wanted to say to everybody.

Speaker 9 Anybody who knows me knows that I'm at one of my favorite places right now.

Speaker 9 Come here to do some thinking, we'll call it. But I just wanted to say, you could be the most perfect, godly fucking person in the world.
You could save kittens from a river if they were drowning.

Speaker 9 Someone's still going to hate you. So you know what? At the end of the day, I got drunk and whipped my tits out at an Oilers game and they went viral.
Fuck you if you don't like it. Woo! Go Oilers.

Speaker 6 She makes a lot of good points.

Speaker 1 I was just waiting for her to show her to.

Speaker 1 Like, that would have been a great mic drop.

Speaker 6 I think she is wise beyond her years. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 6 You could save burning kittens from a river, and they would find something wrong with you.

Speaker 1 Yep. The internet sucks.
We can't just get behind a nice pair of tits. What are we doing?

Speaker 1 And your cool throne, Hank?

Speaker 4 Cool throne? My cool throne is these great shirts.

Speaker 1 All right, now I regret looting all that glazing.

Speaker 6 Okay, lucky queueing the duck boats.

Speaker 4 Duck boats, city of champions, Max. We can get one of these for you.

Speaker 5 Plug God.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 I do.

Speaker 6 I love, but I hate at the same time the Title Town shirt that has all the banners on there. It's just, it's obnoxious.

Speaker 1 But I love it for you.

Speaker 4 18 years.

Speaker 1 Look at that.

Speaker 4 Nothing but success.

Speaker 1 Nothing but success.

Speaker 6 Nothing but success. For Jalen Brown, you're right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Even in the aura department.

Speaker 1 They have aura.

Speaker 1 They?

Speaker 1 They. No,

Speaker 1 I never claimed Jalen Brown didn't have aura. He's got fucking aura coming out of his ears.

Speaker 6 Two people can't share the aura.

Speaker 4 No. No.

Speaker 1 Which one of you guys has aura? There's only one aura.

Speaker 1 Which one of you guys has aura?

Speaker 1 You have the aura. On this podcast, you have the aura.

Speaker 6 Championship DNA. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You have positive aura.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, your hot seat, Coulteron.

Speaker 6 My hot seat is Les Miles.

Speaker 6 Les Miles, because

Speaker 6 he's suing LSU because they vacated his wins. They vacated vacated some of his wins as a coach.
And gave him to Coach K?

Speaker 6 They did not do that. But the reason why he's suing them is actually kind of interesting.

Speaker 6 So to get into the College Football Hall of Fame, you have to have, I believe, a 60% winning percentage, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm just looking at Hank because we're not talking about the Celtics, so he just went right to texting

Speaker 1 like the parades coming up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, keep going. Sorry.
All right. That's very rude of you, Hank.
So let's.

Speaker 1 We're going to do five minutes not on. I was scheduling.

Speaker 4 Sorry.

Speaker 6 What were you scheduling?

Speaker 1 A meeting. Oh.

Speaker 6 What? Always grinding.

Speaker 4 About the production plan for the Internet of Views.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 6 So Les Miles had his wins vacated by LSU. Hank, I'm up here.

Speaker 6 His wins were vacated by LSU. He had a 65% winning.
It's a little bit more.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're looking.

Speaker 1 I'm talking.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 man. Talking, Hank.
We're getting spicy.

Speaker 6 Hey, Max, cut Hank's mic off. Thank you.

Speaker 1 We're getting spicy. All right.

Speaker 6 So I promise this is interesting. Okay.

Speaker 6 So he had like a 65% career winning percentage. To get into the College Football Hall of Fame as a coach, you have to have a 60% winning percentage.

Speaker 6 The wins that were vacated by LSU drops it down to 59.7%.

Speaker 6 So Les Miles can no longer get into the Hall of Fame

Speaker 6 because LSU vacated his wins. So he's suing LSU to try to get back.
I don't know if LSU should give in to him, but what I think LSU should do,

Speaker 6 find something that happened when Nick Sabin was there. Because Nick Sabin is up for eligibility next year.
And if they took away his wins at LSU,

Speaker 6 that might drop below.

Speaker 6 You don't think so?

Speaker 1 Below what?

Speaker 1 Total? Of what? Because I think. Total what?

Speaker 6 Wait, do the losses remain?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but no, but even if

Speaker 1 they took away all the wins, but you're saying percentage.

Speaker 6 If the losses remained, but the wins remained.

Speaker 1 And what's the percentage? You have to be 60?

Speaker 6 60, yeah.

Speaker 1 PFT.

Speaker 6 If they keep the losses.

Speaker 1 PFT, do you know Alabama's record?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I know Alabama's record.

Speaker 1 I don't think you do. Yeah, they're really fucking.
When they go 12-1 every year, that's... It was a great idea.
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 It was a great idea that I had.

Speaker 6 What was his record while he was at LSU?

Speaker 6 That was good.

Speaker 1 Hey, it's talking.

Speaker 1 I was with you, PFT, until you said if we eliminate Nick Sabans LSU.

Speaker 6 Because if you want to be a real hater, you could do that to a coach that left you and then came and coached for your rival.

Speaker 1 I understand, but Nick Sabans.

Speaker 1 Hank, well, your mic's not on. You're not mic's on.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, double mute. How many wins did Nick Saban have at LSU?

Speaker 1 Let's find that.

Speaker 6 Oh, he was only there for five years. Yep, you're right.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And right, you're right. You're right.
You're right. You're right.
I'm wrong. You're right.
I'm wrong. You're right.
Nick Sabens.

Speaker 5 He's 48 and 16.

Speaker 1 Nick Sabens' win percentage rate is 80%.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's

Speaker 1 very far away.

Speaker 6 92 and 71.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So he could. And the tie.

Speaker 1 Well, in theory,

Speaker 6 what if Michigan State finds something and LSU finds something?

Speaker 1 Nick Sabin, we

Speaker 1 go ahead, Hank.

Speaker 1 Check, check, check. Hank, go ahead.
Check, check, check. Put Hank back on.

Speaker 4 What if PFT, they can add his NFL losses?

Speaker 6 Well, he's only like one season.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 All right, I'm sorry. I'm trying to help you out.
My bad.

Speaker 6 No, it was a dumb idea. I had a dumb idea.
I'm sorry. This show's built on dumb ideas.
That's true.

Speaker 1 If you took away 140 of his losses, I think he'd still be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 He could lose almost all his losses.

Speaker 6 That's crazy. I mean, all his wins.

Speaker 1 All his wins. All his wins.

Speaker 1 Okay, let me save this for you.

Speaker 6 I think LSU should acquiesce to Les Miles.

Speaker 1 Let me save this for you. The rule that you have to have 60%

Speaker 1 to make the college football Hall of Fame is bullshit and should be changed because I did see this last week. Mike Leach is like 0.03% away.
Okay. They need to let Mike Leach in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 6 Yeah, because who's to say that you weren't a giant contributor to the game if you didn't happen to have

Speaker 1 60%? It's crazy. And he was that close, and he obviously tragically passed when he was going to still coach more.
That's crazy. So let Mike Leach in.

Speaker 6 Let Mike Leach in, and then probably let Les Miles in. Yeah.
And also, but just to be haters.

Speaker 1 And also figure out how Sabin can.

Speaker 6 Also, just to be haters, they should vacate all of Nick Sabin's win so it looks worse on him.

Speaker 7 Yeah. If you're real about the rivalry.

Speaker 6 Yeah. you can find a way to do that.

Speaker 1 I'm doing the math right now. I think it would be,

Speaker 1 yeah, so if they vacated 160

Speaker 1 of Nick Saban's wins.

Speaker 6 What'd you do, Hank?

Speaker 1 Did he spill?

Speaker 5 This is something very bad breaking news is coming.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 All right, breaking moves in Max Texas is bad. He just said, oh, God.

Speaker 4 Oh, God. Celtics official account says we're going to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 And here's what I'm going to tell you today.

Speaker 6 I got the Dallas Mavericks.

Speaker 1 I think there's going to be a parade in Dallas. Who would you guys beat, though? Who'd you really beat? I have Dallas.
I think Dallas will win. So obviously I'm going with Dallas.

Speaker 6 Dallas. I got Dallas winning.
I think Dallas is deep roots.

Speaker 1 I don't think Boston is deep at all. I like Dallas in this series.
It's an easy choice for me. Dallas.

Speaker 1 The Boston Celtics have not seen anything close to the bottom of the bottom where Dallas Mavericks have

Speaker 1 this floor will be Lieutenant Guy

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 The Celtics are not beating Luca.

Speaker 6 I like how Max got second billing to the corgi that knocks basketballs down.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We couldn't even get a clip.

Speaker 6 Oh, that must double stink for Max because he hates dogs, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. I think that's an honor, Max.

Speaker 5 I think you could spend that as being like, whoa,

Speaker 5 they value my opinion.

Speaker 5 I mean,

Speaker 5 it just further cements me as such a fucking loser.

Speaker 1 But the problem is, I'm just a historic, historic loser. Here's the problem, Max, for you here.

Speaker 1 Picking Dallas is like, that's, you have to pick the series. Some people pick Dallas.
Some people pick the Celtics. I never think it's like, ooh, gotcha.
You picked the wrong side. That's what we do.

Speaker 1 But typing out, the Celtics are not beating Luca.

Speaker 5 That was also a game where I bet the Timberwolves. It was the game that

Speaker 5 the Mavs beat the Timberwolves, and I bet the Timberwolves big, and I was so pissed off. I was like, Luca is so fucking good.
And I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to spin this into

Speaker 1 the Celtics are not beating Luca.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 that was very incorrect.

Speaker 1 Damn. Damn.

Speaker 6 Sorry that happened to you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, it's whatever.

Speaker 4 Let's finish the video out.

Speaker 1 That could get to the finals, but it won't win it.

Speaker 1 Shh.

Speaker 1 But it's no longer what could be or what might be. Yeah, it just is.

Speaker 4 That's

Speaker 4 and then watching this past week when Boston sweeps Dallas or something like that, we got to sit here and be like, well, I guess we were wrong.

Speaker 4 Max. Also, one thing we didn't talk about.
That got me scared first. Oh, that got me.
Yeah, no, that was.

Speaker 1 I was like, I thought someone died. Yeah.
It's just our boy Max falling on his face yet again. Could be bad.

Speaker 1 You really could have just been like, we need to make, someone needs to remake that

Speaker 1 the video of the guy just fumbling all the Tupperware and everything. It That's Max.

Speaker 6 We should just do that video. Yeah.
Just put a bunch of shit in Max's hands. You just have to make that video.

Speaker 1 Oh, Max pooped his pants again. That's not really breaking moves.

Speaker 1 The sun comes up. Max does something that makes him be a loser.
The sun goes down. There's no breaking moves in that.

Speaker 5 Hank's talking about the can't win the big one. When I win the big one,

Speaker 1 that'll be a big move. Oh,

Speaker 1 what are you going to do?

Speaker 5 It'll never happen.

Speaker 1 I actually kind of want to see it.

Speaker 5 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 What are you going to do? Max, you're the producer of the show.

Speaker 4 It is cool that a team that just won the NBA championship are listeners and fans of yours, right?

Speaker 5 No, I mean, it's just that's a cool thing.

Speaker 4 That's a really

Speaker 1 cool.

Speaker 5 That's what I said. Big cotton's always said: if you're going to be wrong, be really cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point.

Speaker 5 That's a good point. At least I'm known for being very wrong and very much a loser with every sport that I root for.

Speaker 1 Right, you got aura. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I have losing aura. Heavy.
I have heavy losing aura. Laura, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, where were we? I was being very, very wrong about something.

Speaker 5 Les Miles hot seat.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 If they took away 182 of Nick Saban's wins, he would still have over 60%.

Speaker 6 Okay, well, that's probably not going to happen.

Speaker 1 But I tried. But maybe.
But I tried.

Speaker 6 The other hot seat is Justin Timberlake. Oh.
Got a DUI in the Hamptons.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. Yeah.

Speaker 6 It's pretty bad. Pretty bad stuff.
A picture came out of him in handcuffs being let out of the police station, and then a bunch of old clips of him saying, like, don't drink and drive came out.

Speaker 6 Old takes exposed on that one. And then he also

Speaker 6 was complaining about Brittany and telling her she needs to stop drinking. Oh.
All those resurfaced, too.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 So it's tough. It's tough for old JT.
Don't drink and drive.

Speaker 1 Also, there's like no, aren't there no roads?

Speaker 6 There's like one road in the Hamptons. Can't he just get he should get a cab?

Speaker 1 He should have a driver. He can get an Uber.
He should have a driver. He should get a driver.
I don't know why rich people don't have drivers. Yeah.
And I don't know why you don't call an Uber.

Speaker 6 This is viral marketing for Summerhouse, which, by the way, is an excellent show. I don't know if you've seen that.

Speaker 1 I haven't.

Speaker 6 It's terrible. It's actually the worst show I've ever seen, but it's so bad that it's good.
Okay.

Speaker 6 Check it out. Yeah, so Justin Timberlake, hot seat.
And then my cool throne is Notes Apps.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I had this as well.

Speaker 5 Big day for Notes Apps.

Speaker 6 Big day. Rory McElroy gave

Speaker 6 maybe the most important notes app that we've all been waiting for. Everyone was like, he's going to apologize.
He has to apologize.

Speaker 6 He gave a notes app apology without actually apologizing for anything. For the wheel spinning? For the wheels spinning.
He did not apologize for the wheel spinning. What?

Speaker 6 He said, firstly, I'd like to congratulate Bryson.

Speaker 6 Yesterday was a tough day, probably the toughest I've had in my nearly 17 years as a professional golfer. Bryson is a worthy champion and exactly what professional golf needs right now.

Speaker 6 I think we can all agree on that. Then he gets to, as I reflect on my week, I will rue a few things over the course of the tournament, mostly the two missed putts on 16 and 18 in the final day.

Speaker 6 But as I always do, I'll look back at the positives that far outweigh the negatives. And then he goes on, doesn't apologize, though.
Doesn't apologize for talking to the media.

Speaker 6 Doesn't apologize for almost hitting several spectators in the parking lot. Doesn't apologize for getting on a plane before Bryson got the championship trophy.

Speaker 6 So it's a no-tap apology with no apology from Rory. Damn.
Still, you know it's serious when he's in dark mode.

Speaker 1 I would have liked to see an apology about the wheels spinning, specifically. Yeah,

Speaker 1 in the tournament-issued Lexus.

Speaker 6 I feel like the dark mode was an intentional choice on his part to convey seriousness. Yeah.
If you just go normal daytime mode, that's more of a jovial notes app.

Speaker 6 But yeah, he was trying to convey being apologetic without apologizing. Yeah.
So he might need to do a notes app for the notes app and say, I apologize for not apologizing. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Which would still not be an apology.

Speaker 6 For the original thing. Correct.
You need a triple apology.

Speaker 4 We've all played golf in the last couple of days. I feel like he

Speaker 1 is not. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
PFT and I got up at at 7 in the morning to play 9 holes with Frankie.

Speaker 6 Oh, no, Piquette.

Speaker 1 I was a bunch of 30 this year.

Speaker 1 Might as well fight in consequence. PFT and I got up at 5.30 in the morning.
I got up at 5.30 on Monday.

Speaker 1 We did the show.

Speaker 1 PFT got up at 5.30 after the NBA Finals on Tuesday to

Speaker 1 do

Speaker 1 nine holes with our good friend Frankie Borrelli coming out soon.

Speaker 6 Which I'm happy to do.

Speaker 1 Hank, you

Speaker 1 golfed for all of Monday.

Speaker 4 I was here Monday. We streamed last night.

Speaker 1 I was here.

Speaker 4 I was the last person in this building last night. What time were you here till last night, big cat?

Speaker 1 What time did you get to golf? What time did you wake up to go golf? And did you play? 6:30. You only played nine holes?

Speaker 4 No, I played 18. We participated in the classic.

Speaker 1 I played too. I'm not sure.
So was that

Speaker 1 for content? Yeah, I posted content.

Speaker 5 I played literally we're entertaining clients.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 I posted a video. Everyone made fun of me.
How'd you play?

Speaker 1 I played Not Great. Jake carried us.
Nice trying lumps. Regardless,

Speaker 4 see, that's where it's like inconsequential because all I was saying, and because you guys also maybe felt this, is if I was Rory, I don't think I would golf for like a month.

Speaker 4 Like, looking at a putt that's shorter than four feet is actual PTSD for him. Well, he's not.

Speaker 5 He said in the notes app, he's taking off until they go to Europe.

Speaker 1 Shout out Smiley for calling that. Scott's like, he's going to pull out.
By the way.

Speaker 4 Like, did you guys have a putt where you're like, if I was Rory, like, I would, I would be hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I don't think a putt exists on planet Earth that you could miss and then take three months off from golfing afterwards.

Speaker 4 If I lost the U.S. Open because of two, three footers, my hand up, I would take three months off.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 By the way, we've been doing this show for so long. Did you know this, Hank?

Speaker 1 I fucked up on Sunday night. We had Smiley Kaufman on.
Great interview. We've had him on before.
I told you that. I forgot.
Yeah. I forgot.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 It was like 2018, maybe?

Speaker 1 17? 17? Earlier than that, yeah. Yeah, 17.
That's my fault. He's going to be on again.
Him and Ricky.

Speaker 4 Ricky gets no respect as one of the better interviews we had early on in this podcast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was great. All right, my hot seat is

Speaker 1 Landon Donovan. Landon Donovan's hair

Speaker 1 at the Euros.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. So I think he got a hair transplant and it didn't take.
Well, I think it's

Speaker 4 a process.

Speaker 6 It's a recent one, yeah. So it looks like his shoulders are eating the back of his head.
And he was told before he did it that he would not have that part of his head on TV.

Speaker 6 But then he turned to the side and immediately everybody was like, holy shit, what is wrong with Landon Donovan?

Speaker 1 It's so bad. This is how bad, if you missed the picture, you can go look it up, but I'll explain it to you if you're listening and not watching.

Speaker 1 It is so bad that I posted it and then about an hour later, I went back to it and said to myself, wait, did he just have like brain surgery for a tumor or something? Did I fuck up?

Speaker 1 Because that's how bad his hair looks. Yeah, just wear a hat, Landon.

Speaker 6 It's the reverse mullet.

Speaker 1 It's horrendous. It looks like he went through a medical emergency.

Speaker 6 It looks like he had said that he would shave his head if the Mavericks won the NBA Finals. And then after they won that game, he's like, okay, let's do this in steps.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know how you come back from that.

Speaker 4 Hopefully with a full head of hair.

Speaker 1 That would rock. But now everyone knows, too.
But still, I mean, in this day and age.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just wear a toupee. I don't understand what happened to toupees.
Toupees and just daring people to say, oh, you're wearing a toupee, would be so much fun.

Speaker 1 Just rocking a terrible toupee.

Speaker 6 If you're open about the toupee. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 If I ever have male pattern baldness, I will rock a toupee and it will be horrendous. And I dare you to say something.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 it's a really, really bad. If you know you're going to be on TV, just deal with one more week

Speaker 6 of having the shitty hair.

Speaker 1 Right. Or just shave your head and do schedule.
You knew the Euros were coming. Yeah.
Schedule your hair transplant after. Yeah.
All right. My cool throne is our guy, JOC.
He released a great video.

Speaker 1 Can you play it for us, Max?

Speaker 1 Congratulating Hank on his big win. He also was, I think, about to drown in the ocean when he posted this.
But this is a congrats, Hank, video from Jerry O'Connell.

Speaker 1 Hanky, Luko's back, Mr. Bing Bong.

Speaker 1 Congrats on your Celtics. Worst finals ever.
Sleepy finals.

Speaker 1 Sleepy Hank. Bing bong.

Speaker 1 Time to get back outside.

Speaker 1 In the waves, in the sun with the birds. I'm a birder.
Just like your high school science teacher. Bing bong.
Tweet, tweet.

Speaker 1 Speaking of birds, Tiffany Gomez was flying the birds. She's a pilot.
You could have been a co-pilot, but you blew it.

Speaker 1 You blew it.

Speaker 1 Even Belichick's got a girlfriend that does her homework. Bing bong.
Your back swing sucks.

Speaker 1 Wait now.

Speaker 1 Your back swing sucks.

Speaker 6 That felt unnecessary.

Speaker 1 That was the only part of that where I was like, what the hell, Jerry? Even Belichick has a girlfriend. It's so good.

Speaker 6 So Jerry went to the beach to get away from his wife so she wouldn't know that he was recording this video. Yes.
That's what I love about this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I think he was at the beach. He went in the water to get away from her.

Speaker 6 From a supermodel wife.

Speaker 1 They probably were

Speaker 1 at the beach as a family, and he's like, I'm going to go in the water real quick just to do this video.

Speaker 6 Scream at my phone for 15 seconds.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's the best.

Speaker 1 We need a Celtics Celtics Knicks series next year. Just fly him in for the whole thing.
It'd be great. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's so funny to think about Jerry. Like, he's a real person who has a real job, like, on TV, and just half his day is, like, what is Tiffany Gomez saying? And

Speaker 1 let me listen to PMT. So I love him.

Speaker 5 His show is on CBS. It's on national television.

Speaker 6 Yeah, his show is so funny, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So funny.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake, finish off Hot Sea Cool Trone.

Speaker 5 Trone. My hot seat, sorry, PFT, is Alex Ovechkin.

Speaker 1 No, he looks good.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so there's a picture going around of Ovie playing the sport called Padel, which is going to be this future game that I take on. You guys make fun of me for playing.
It's basically a mix of

Speaker 4 paddle.

Speaker 5 I've heard it's Padell. Jake is right, it's Padel.

Speaker 1 There's Padel and there's Paddle. Padell?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's different. It's different.
Padell and Paddle?

Speaker 5 I think so. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, no, it's the same sport. Same sport.
Oh.

Speaker 5 No, this is the one with the glass walls.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not chain walls.

Speaker 6 I've played the sport.

Speaker 6 With the glass walls?

Speaker 1 It was a chain.

Speaker 6 It was like a really tightly wound chain that it would bounce off of.

Speaker 4 Padel is a doubles game only.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a really mean tweet. It says breaking Alex Ovechkin is expected to replace Joey Chestnut in this year's hot dog eating contest.

Speaker 1 He looks like

Speaker 5 people are roasting him for looking big.

Speaker 1 Is there a chance that maybe he just didn't take off his pads after the last game?

Speaker 6 There is a chance that that happened. There's also a chance that he's trying to get out of shape so he doesn't get drafted by Putin.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 6 Trying to stay out of Ukraine. I respect that.

Speaker 1 He does look large.

Speaker 6 He looks powerful.

Speaker 6 That's a man that is

Speaker 6 old man strength.

Speaker 1 And that was taken before they started playing?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 5 I would say after. All four of them look pretty swell.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. Okay.

Speaker 5 And my cool throne, I think it's the first time this is ever on the cool throne, the New York Mets. Yes.

Speaker 5 Their season might have been saved by a hero no one saw coming, and it's Grimis, the McDonald's mascot. He threw out the first pitch last week.

Speaker 5 Since then, they're 6-0, and they are dominating on the field.

Speaker 1 The picture of Grimace is awesome.

Speaker 6 Grimace. It was a decent first pitch for a mascot.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was, we did the, I should have seen this coming, but I had to do the rundown today because the Celtics won. So Dave texted Kevin and I

Speaker 1 rundown at 11, like first thing this morning. And the rundown ended, and Kevin and I were just talking about how the Cubs suck.
And he's like, well, at least I have Grimace.

Speaker 1 And it was maybe the saddest conversation that's ever happened.

Speaker 5 I mean, the Mets are only a game out of the wild cards.

Speaker 1 Okay, I have a take, real quick.

Speaker 1 Major League Baseball completely fucked up the playoffs with this wild card. It's not overruns a lot.
Stupid.

Speaker 1 The Cubs are a bad baseball team.

Speaker 5 And they're two games out.

Speaker 1 And they're two games out. They're in last place in the NL Central.
And they're two games out. You shouldn't.
There should not be a playoff spot for like, you have to be, there has to be a limit.

Speaker 1 There has to be a

Speaker 1 fair.

Speaker 5 If they didn't add the third, they would only be three behind the Cardinals for the second wild card.

Speaker 1 It's just crazy. I don't know.
They're just not a good team. And I look and I'm like, oh, well, you can delude yourself.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't like that they did this in the NBA either.

Speaker 1 It's my biggest gripe about the play-in that you let owners get off on basically saying, well, we're putting together a playoff team when, no, if you're a play-in team, you're not.

Speaker 6 It's just bullshit. I think that there should be a rule where if you're beneath 500, you shouldn't even be listed in the wild card possibilities.

Speaker 1 But you could just owners get to sell their fan base on being competitive when they're not competitive.

Speaker 6 Well, here's the thing though, in baseball, if you get into the playoffs, you do have a chance to win. Anything could happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, anything could happen.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 let's get to our interview with Joe Missoula.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. Less than 24 hours after becoming a world champion, it is Boston Celtics head coach Joe Missoula.
Coach, oh, Hank's clapping for you.

Speaker 1 Hank's clapping for you in the room. Coach,

Speaker 1 let's start. I mean, just how are you feeling right now? I know that's the lamest question, but

Speaker 1 I have to imagine it's just the best feeling in the absolute world.

Speaker 11 Yeah, no, I definitely expected more from you for the first question.

Speaker 11 You know, I just really like gratitude. I mean, it's a lame answer, but for me, it's...

Speaker 11 hasn't really set in yet, I think, because everything just happened so fast and you got to go to a bunch of stuff. But I would say the first word is just, you know, being grateful.

Speaker 11 You know,

Speaker 11 never thought I would ever be in this position. And just great, like the type of players that we get to coach every day, the type of people we get to be around.
It's just an awesome experience.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I would imagine. How is the knee feeling? Because I didn't know this.
I don't know if it was public or not. I didn't realize you were coaching on a torn meniscus.

Speaker 6 How is it feeling, number one? And then number two, how did having a torn meniscus impact your coaching at all?

Speaker 11 Well, listen, that's what happens when you lose games in a regular season. Like you're just not allowed to lose.

Speaker 11 So after we lost to Atlanta at home, I went out, went on the mats, punished myself and just pounded my body until it couldn't take anymore and ended up just tearing my knee.

Speaker 11 So ended up being a great experience for me. I had to do like six hours of treatment in order to coach the next game without too much of a limp because I could not walk.

Speaker 11 But I'll tell you what, it almost, it was one of the best things that happened to me for the rest of the season because it put me in like this fight or flight mentality to where like I could just not relax.

Speaker 11 Like I had to constantly train to keep it pain-free. I had to constantly get,

Speaker 11 you know, physical therapy. My physical therapist has been great.
And it was just, it was awesome. I've been thinking about maybe getting hurt every like all-star break.

Speaker 1 Wait, fucking.

Speaker 1 So hold on a second. So

Speaker 1 you could make the argument then, the fact that you guys only lost three games in the entire playoffs, that that saved your life.

Speaker 1 Because if you had gone to like a seven-game series, you would have had to go to the mat after all of those times. Like you you could have died

Speaker 11 yeah absolutely I think the injury the injury probably did save my life because I was getting out of control I was getting carried away so

Speaker 1 yeah it's I mean

Speaker 1 your intensity is insane

Speaker 11 it was cool though like it just brought a different level of focus that I had to have because like it's like it's a like a bucket handle tear and like it would lock and like click from time to time so like I had to walk slower I couldn't move certain ways so it really forced me to focus more and so it was actually I'm really grateful that it happened.

Speaker 1 So that definitely

Speaker 11 missed the mats, though.

Speaker 6 Yeah. It impacted your shot blocking ability then, right? You're not able to go out on the court and swat anything away.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I've always been a two-foot block jumper, not a one-foot jumper. And so I need, you know, that power from both of my quads to kind of, you know, explode out.

Speaker 11 And so now that I can only jump off my left, I wasn't able to elevate the way I needed to get those.

Speaker 11 those deflections and blocks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So it's good to see you smiling.
I saw

Speaker 1 a Twitter thread last night of all the guys taking pictures with the Larry O'Brien trophy, and the two pictures I saw of you, you were just not smiling.

Speaker 1 What was that? Is it like jobs not finished?

Speaker 11 I was really pissed because I feel like all the other

Speaker 11 teams have gotten a head start on getting better for next season. And like, you know, it's middle of June and we're still focused on last season.
So I had to get over that for a second.

Speaker 11 But once I was able to enjoy it, it was a great moment.

Speaker 11 That thing's heavy, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That thing's heavy.
Yeah. We're talking about it.
Talking with the Tormaniscus.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we're talking to Hank earlier about the banner situation, how you guys have a blank banner for the next one that hangs up.

Speaker 6 When you guys do the banner ceremony, are you just going to unveil a brand new blank banner for next year?

Speaker 11 We should. I mean, we shouldn't act like it just didn't happen.
Just don't even put anything up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 No, it's got to be a great feeling. So walk us through what happened after the game.

Speaker 6 What do you do tonight after winning an NBA championship? This is like a lifelong accomplishment. Did Did you take time to celebrate or were you just busy with other commitments till now?

Speaker 11 So what happened? So the horn goes off. Obviously, they gather everybody around and find my wife and kids and spend that time with them.
And both my kids got to go on stage.

Speaker 11 And it was awesome to see them. I got a couple pictures of their reactions.
And then you go in the back and then the locker room turns into like a college 21, like an 18 and over nightclub.

Speaker 11 I felt like I was back in college again. So that was, that was cool.
Had to shower because I was drenched. And then I had to go to some media stuff.

Speaker 11 And then you go to like an after-party type thing, which we hung around. And then my wife and I stuck around and kind of just walked around the garden to just take in

Speaker 11 the confetti on the floor, visualizing the new banner being up, visualizing the old banner.

Speaker 11 There was like this blank.

Speaker 11 There's this blank place in the rafters that I would, every national anthem that I would visualize the 2024 one going. And that started in the preseason.

Speaker 11 And so we were able to just kind of pinpoint that. And you just take in, you know, what the city brings, what the arena brings, everything that comes with, you know, being a Celtic.

Speaker 11 And last night was like the culmination of like, you see the shirt I'm wearing with like red and Bill Russell, like culmination of history, the culmination of like greatness that you get to be a part of now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I saw too on the whiteboard before the game, you guys had flight at noon to Miami.

Speaker 1 I feel like you're you're a superstitious guy?

Speaker 1 That was not before the game. Oh, that wasn't before the game.
Okay, all right, good. All right, that was after the game.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, because I was like, when I saw that, I was like, no way did Coach Missoula let them do this before a closeout game.

Speaker 1 All right, so you were still, before the game, it was still jobs, you know, you guys better get ready, let's go.

Speaker 11 No, absolutely. Yeah, no, that came on right after the game.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. That's that's fair.
That's fair. What, uh, so you did, you're down in Miami now.
What movie did you watch on the way down to Miami?

Speaker 11 Um, We didn't watch one. We had the beats pill going and just had all the music.
So just

Speaker 11 one of the things

Speaker 11 in the back locker room before games, all the coaches sit in the same room and each coach picks a different playlist.

Speaker 11 And we just bump music back there the whole time, play a little soccer, listen to music. And so every player's got his...
I mean, every coach has his favorite song or favorite playlist.

Speaker 11 So we were in the coaches section just kind of going back and forth on all the songs that we listened to throughout the year. All right.

Speaker 1 So you haven't been able to watch The Town as a world champion yet? Not yet. Okay.
That's got to be. Are you going to cry, maybe? Like, that's got to be different.

Speaker 11 So I actually watched The Departed the night before game five. And the quotes from that, like, you can't really say those that much anymore.

Speaker 11 But the quotes from The Departed, like, it says every other line is something that you wish you could say out loud again.

Speaker 7 That movie's,

Speaker 11 I love that movie. So I watched that one before game five, getting ready, um, you know, for it.

Speaker 11 and uh i haven't watched the time but someone asked me and my new favorite scene is when like they're about getting ready to rob fenway and he's like

Speaker 1 he's like you know this is going to be hard right and he's like easy kid everybody would do it yeah yeah so yeah how how was it for the team and for you after friday night after that you know game four which was i mean it was uh ass kicking but you guys still had control of the series and you're going back home like did you was there i would assume there's no panic but that that had to be at least a little shocking in the manner it happened.

Speaker 11 Not really. I mean, we had had a couple of those throughout the year.
I think sometimes you lose perspective. And like that loss allowed us to keep perspective.

Speaker 11 Like we had won 10 games a row in the playoffs, which like doesn't happen. We had only lost two playoff games up until that point.

Speaker 11 And, you know, I had really trusted our team because like they, they, we bounced back from like small adversities and small times of not playing our best. Like we did it.

Speaker 11 We had a game like that at Milwaukee. We had a game like that home against New York.
I I think we had two games like that. I think both games against Milwaukee were like that.

Speaker 11 So, um, you know, it wasn't no room for panic or anything like that. It was more kind of like, okay, like, you know, why did this happen?

Speaker 11 And then really trust the guys because we've been able to bounce back before.

Speaker 11 But also, just keep in perspective, like, what we've been able to do throughout the playoffs up to that point was really, really hard.

Speaker 11 And you just got to know that it's never going to be that easy, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. So, would you almost rather get your ass kicked like that or lose a close one?

Speaker 11 No, I'd rather get my ass kicked than lose a close one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 11 You lose a close one, guys play 40, 42 minutes, they're tired, you know, you got to travel back.

Speaker 11 Like, you know, you get blown out, take the guys out, they play 25 minutes, get the boys some rest, and, you know, you kind of regroup the next day. That couldn't have worked out better for us.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you were talking about soccer a second ago. I read that you had Pep Guardiola in the stands and that you two have been, you've been talking, right?

Speaker 11 No, yeah, we've been friends for, you know, two years now. He's a beast, isn't he?

Speaker 6 Yeah, he is. So did he help you with anything?

Speaker 11 He did. So I think the way he, so if you know his story, he

Speaker 11 was the Barcelona's, you know, lack of a better phrase, like JV coach.

Speaker 11 And when they fired their first team coach, they promoted him from within. And he got the Barcelona job when it was at its prime.
They had just come off a Champions League.

Speaker 11 And instead of going out to get a bigger name, they got a guy like they got him, someone from the inside. And so I had always studied his career because, you know, that happened.

Speaker 11 And if someone hires from within of a company like that, you know, they're obviously a special guy. So, and they had so much success so fast.
I think they won five trophies in their first year.

Speaker 11 They won 12 in the four years that they were there. And so a lot of our conversations were really built upon how he handled that first year, like how he handled success.

Speaker 11 at such a young age as a coach, how he handled coaching Messi at such a young age and the other superstars that he had, how they gelled, and then how he's built long-term success at, you know, Manchester City.

Speaker 11 And so he was just able to give like great perspective on greatness, how to start it, how to sustain it, and then how to handle the ebbs and flows of it when it doesn't go your way. And then

Speaker 11 the way he coaches his teams, the tactical stuff, very, very similar.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So the loudest moment last night.

Speaker 1 other than the the the final buzzer was when payton pritchard hit the half court shot at what point in the last couple of years did you realize that this is like a secret weapon that you can unleash on the other team?

Speaker 1 Because it was so funny watching from our perspective, you see Peyton get checked in and we're like, well, he's going to hit this because that's what he's been doing.

Speaker 1 Tell me how, when, when did that light bulb go off? Like, oh, this is our end of half guy who can do this.

Speaker 11 So there's a stat around like when you don't shoot the ball at the end of the quarter, your percentage of winning goes down.

Speaker 11 And our player development coach who works with Peyton and Sam and some of the other guys, they like they study those type of stats because a lot of the bench guys, you have your second unit lineups are in at the end of quarters.

Speaker 11 Your starters usually aren't in at the end of the quarter. And so we were able to find those stats.

Speaker 11 And our player development staff and Peyton and Sam and those guys take great pride in those little details.

Speaker 11 And we were able to take advantage of that throughout the season. It's a credit to Peyton because

Speaker 11 it's the ultimate competitiveness, the ultimate humility to take that shot.

Speaker 11 And I promise you, and I said this to Peyton during the series, there's never a shot that he shoots that I don't think is going in.

Speaker 11 Because of his work ethic and because of his confidence. Every shot he takes, I think is going in, whether it's a layup, three-pointer, or from half court.

Speaker 7 That's yeah.

Speaker 6 And a lot of guys, I think, don't like to take those shots because they're you know low percentage shots for the most part, might impact the shooting percentage.

Speaker 6 And Peyton's just like, give me the ball, give me the rock, I'll do it.

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Speaker 1 Settle a debate for us. Game four, if you guys were winning.

Speaker 1 Yeah, here's the debate. So game four, if you guys are winning,

Speaker 1 would you have maybe put Chris Dops in just to let him be on the court for a clinching game?

Speaker 1 Because Hank here thought you were using Chris Dopps as a human victory cigar, and that was the only way he was getting it back in the series.

Speaker 11 We would have used him in like one of four or five different situations.

Speaker 11 Like, so if there was a critical jump ball, like that we needed to win like there was a jump ball in our offensive possession uh we would have put him in if there was a end of game situation where he had to guard the rim or like be over the ball to try to get a deflection and yeah like if we were winning i would have put him in the game for a minute or two and uh just because you like he he sacrificed his whole career hank was right sacrificed his whole career to get to this point and to not be a part of it would have just devastated him.

Speaker 11 And like, he had a serious, serious injury and like he worked his ass off to get back. And like what he brought for us in game five was like unbelievable and

Speaker 11 really led to winning. And so like we have a guy in his career that's been through a lot and sacrificed a lot.
Like you want them to be a part of it.

Speaker 11 So yeah, I would have used KP in game four under those circumstances.

Speaker 1 So it's nothing new for this show, but Hank was right. And Max, our producer, the Sixers fan, who got upset at Hank for saying that, was wrong.
So another loss for Max.

Speaker 1 That's another loss for Max.

Speaker 6 I mean, Hank knows ball. What can I say? How bad was the injury? Was he, were the trainers saying, like, you can't play on this? And he was like, no, I'm going to play.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I mean, that's kind of how it was. But it was like, we don't know how long the series is going to go on for.
Like, let's try to save him from himself because he was trying to play.

Speaker 11 So let's see if we can get through a game or two. And then like when it was game five at home, it was like, hey, like.
you know, this might be it. Like, I got to be out there.

Speaker 11 And so, you know, he was like, I'm playing. And so he overrode the medical team there.
I was just like, I'm playing.

Speaker 1 And credit to him.

Speaker 6 Tough guy. So, this might be a really dumb question.
So, I'm saying that in advance. Is there a small part of you that wishes that you had lost more games in the NBA Finals?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Not even a little bit.

Speaker 6 Not even a little bit where you're like, man, that would have been sick if we had gone down, if we had lost the first game and then we fought back.

Speaker 11 I mean, I do wish for things to be a lot harder, but no, once we got to the finals, I was like, man, I'll take the easy way if we can.

Speaker 6 All right. Smart answer.
Dumb question.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're getting soft. So is there, was there,

Speaker 1 I doubt last night you gave a speech, but after the parade on Friday, is it Friday's the parade? After the parade on Friday, will you

Speaker 1 get the team together and be like, hey, guys, fun's over. Time to get back to work?

Speaker 11 Well, some of our guys will play in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 no, I won't do that. Okay.

Speaker 1 So you have gotten soft. You've gotten soft.
I'd love to.

Speaker 11 I would love to. I mean, I was joking around in the locker room after yesterday.
I was like, guys, we're behind here.

Speaker 11 Like, you know, every other team's been, they started workouts, individual workouts. We're still worried about last season.

Speaker 1 You know, we're behind.

Speaker 11 Like, sounds good, but

Speaker 11 nobody cares. A week from now, it'll be zero and zero.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 If you were to put odds on it, who do you think from the team is going to make the biggest splash at the victory parade?

Speaker 6 Who's going to be the one that we're going to get all the videos of and be like, holy shit, this person's having the time of their life?

Speaker 11 Got to be KP, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I was thinking Cornette.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, Lou Cornette.

Speaker 11 Ooh, or Sve. Sve's a wild card there.

Speaker 6 Okay. Hank, do you have any questions for Coach?

Speaker 1 Hank is just... He's on Cloud Nine.
He's a winner. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I mean, that's a pretty arrogant stance right there. He's leaning back.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, I was just listening. Oh, he was taking it all in.

Speaker 4 I was taking it all in.

Speaker 1 Listen, he can't exist, Coach. Coach, the earliest Hank's ever gotten into this office was this morning, just so that people would ask him about the game.

Speaker 1 He was wearing head-to-toe Celtics gear, just walking around, hoping people would bring it up.

Speaker 11 Hank, how long have you been a Seas fan?

Speaker 4 I grew up in Massachusetts, so all my life specifically after 2008.

Speaker 11 I mean, people,

Speaker 11 you can't explain to people what it's like being a subject fan.

Speaker 4 No, I loved your quote when you were talking to the media saying, you know, it's, when they were talking about people, you know, coming at you and the Jays, and you said it's Boston, I won't want it any other way.

Speaker 4 I grew up here. I know what it's like.
When you obviously, you know, wanted to be a head coach, I think your old LinkedIn page is still active.

Speaker 4 I don't know if you saw that, but it had like your kind of write-up where it's like, I want to to help players personal training and eventually be a head coach.

Speaker 4 Was your dream to be a Celtics head coach or was that something that, you know, was, was unfathomable at the time?

Speaker 11 Um, so we had a, like a prayer board that my wife and I put up, and it was only like, it was the Celtics.

Speaker 11 Uh, it was like be a head coach for the Celtics. We were very, very, very specific.
I actually have this vision board that a friend of mine worked on.

Speaker 11 And the three things on there were the Larry O'Brien trophy, the Celtics logo, and then a picture of Brad, because I wanted to work for Brad.

Speaker 11 I wanted to work for the Celtics and I wanted to win a championship with the

Speaker 11 tutelage of Brad and for the Celtics. And those three things have been on there for like 10 years.

Speaker 4 What was the biggest thing that helped you break through into getting to Brad Stevens? How did you make that happen? What was the biggest part of that that led to you even getting in the door?

Speaker 11 So he, this is actually a funny story.

Speaker 11 We played against, well, we played in the same Final Four.

Speaker 11 And the point guard

Speaker 11 for Butler at the time was Ron Norad.

Speaker 11 And he had just left the Celtics to go be an assistant at Northern Kentucky. And Northern Kentucky and like Fairmont were relatively close, and they were both D2.

Speaker 11 So we were kind of recruiting the same type of guys, even though they were getting ready to go D1.

Speaker 11 And I kind of knew of him. And he had just left the Celtics to go to NKU.
And I walk under the basket and I'm like, you just did the dumbest thing I've ever seen in coaching.

Speaker 11 You just left the Celtics to go to wherever it was that you were. And we kind of struck a relationship from there.

Speaker 11 And long story short, he tried to hire me in Brooklyn when he got the G-League head job. Didn't work out.
And then he kind of made a call for me. And so that's kind of how I ended up in Maine was,

Speaker 11 you know, door closed in Brooklyn. He made a couple calls with some people, and then I was able to get in in Maine and get under the Celtics kind of, you know, franchise from there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, your story is incredible.
And the, like, they were showing it last night that you were coaching high school and then the Maine Red Claws a few years ago.

Speaker 1 Like, when do you think this will kind of set in that you are a NBA champion head coach? Like, that's just, it's awesome.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I mean, it's funny. Like people say enjoy it.
And I don't really, like, that is different for different people.

Speaker 11 So I don't really know yet. I think the biggest thing is making sure you don't change.
Like you don't like become too much of an asshole

Speaker 11 more than I already am. So you try to just stay consistent, I think is important.

Speaker 11 You try not to skip steps in the process. So like you got to coach the same way.
And And I think it would be more like how you treat people. Like, I think if

Speaker 11 I really want to make sure that I just continue to try to treat people the right way and not, like, because like, just because you win this doesn't mean you're better than other people.

Speaker 11 You know what I mean? Like, there's plenty of great people and coaches that have done great things and they haven't won. So, just because you win doesn't mean you're better.

Speaker 11 And so, I think the important thing is like recognizing that and kind of staying in your lane, you know?

Speaker 1 Well, it does mean that you were better this year

Speaker 11 for one year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, you were literally better.

Speaker 11 But I mean, over the course of like, you know, if you're not better than other people, like, right, right.

Speaker 1 As a human. But you should at least acknowledge that you were better this year.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we were. We were a better team.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you can give yourself that.

Speaker 11 Hank, we were talking about the Boston media. So one of the scenes

Speaker 11 me and Tatum kind of watched, because we both like

Speaker 11 the Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises.

Speaker 11 So like when we were working on like, okay, you know, this is how we're going to handle like expectations, pressure, like this is what, this is what we need to do.

Speaker 11 So we're watching a scene where Batman goes into the interrogation room with Joker and like they're talking and Batman's like, why do you want to kill me? And like the Joker starts laughing at him.

Speaker 11 He's like, I don't want to kill you. He's like, he's like, I need you.
He's like, you complete me. And it was like the coolest moment of like, you like, good and evil has to coexist.

Speaker 11 Differences have to coexist in order to bring the best out of each other and the people around you. So like.
Dark Knight, great movie.

Speaker 6 Great movie. So you're watching Batman with Jason Tatum.
That's interesting.

Speaker 6 just a scene that's one of his favorite sort of the clip okay got it interesting got it who between uh jason tatum and uh jalen brown who's batman who's the joker uh i want to be the joker okay you're the joker okay so wait is there any other options no just batman and joker i think they're the only two ones yeah we have two batmans and i'm the joker two batman

Speaker 6 so batmans win easy if two batmans against the joker I don't know.

Speaker 11 The Joker's willing to like, the issue with Batman is, is like, he's not willing to do whatever it takes.

Speaker 11 Like, he, there's like, that's the scene where he has a chance to throw him off the cliff at the end of the second one and he doesn't do it. He saves his life.

Speaker 11 And so like, the scary thing about Batman is like, is he willing to go the extra mile to do what's necessary for the greater good? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That sounds like some summer motivation for both your guys.

Speaker 11 And like, that's the danger part of Joker is like, he's willing to go the extra mile to get his point across, whether it's like healthy or not, which, you know, it's not.

Speaker 11 But like, Batman's not willing to go the extra mile.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's a good point. You are the joker in that relationship.
Yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Jalen and Jason will listen to this and be like, wow, so we have to kill Coach. You just were told that we have to go the extra mile to kill Coach.

Speaker 6 You'd probably like that, you sick fuck.

Speaker 1 Derek White.

Speaker 11 That's what we're motivation heading into next season. We got to kill Joe to win.

Speaker 6 Derek White and his teeth. I thought

Speaker 6 it was an all-time, like almost a hockey guy moment on the basketball court. The smile after the game was very funny.

Speaker 6 Did he, is he get his teeth fixed before the parade or is he just going to enjoy this time?

Speaker 11 Hopefully, he has time. I mean, we got to Miami here, so he's not going to have time today.
I mean, that's his fault. He shouldn't have gotten hurt.

Speaker 11 And he knows that. He knows that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the floor is right there.

Speaker 6 It's a big floor. Watch out for it.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 Don't have time to get hurt in the game five, the NBA finals.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 So we had a couple last questions. Thank you so much for joining us.
I know that you got a million dollars.

Speaker 11 I was dying to do it during the playoffs, but I'll do this. When I'm done, I'm just going to come hang out with you guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're.

Speaker 1 Well, that was the last time we talked was right before the Bulls played in their play-in game, and we were making plans for you to come and tap us out if the Bulls had gotten into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 So I hope that still stands, that when you're back in Chicago, you can

Speaker 1 get the mat out.

Speaker 1 Hank, we had Derek and Peyton Pritchard on

Speaker 1 in February, I believe, and Hank said that he was going to shave his head if you guys win the title.

Speaker 6 he said when they win the title when they win the title

Speaker 1 so how long do you think hank has to to make good on this 24 hours oh wow and that's from coach joe missoula well i'm listening

Speaker 1 because i want i want i want to

Speaker 4 be a man of your word to commemorate well to commemorate the bet i'm going to do it uh banner night i'll be

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 1 no because then we're on the next season

Speaker 11 because then now you're people like you hank will be the reason why we started next year

Speaker 11 we're trying to get ready for the next season.

Speaker 1 That's a great point. I mean, this is coming straight from Coach.
He just won you a title, and

Speaker 1 you're going to go against what he wants here. People like you.
24 hours, Hank. 24 hours.

Speaker 6 What do you say to that?

Speaker 1 Come on, Hank.

Speaker 1 You can do both? Well, you know what? I think let's give him a little leeway here. Let's say until the parade is over.

Speaker 11 Okay, that's fair. All right.

Speaker 1 So you have till Friday afternoon.

Speaker 11 Friday afternoon. Because after the parade's over.
Right.

Speaker 1 We turn the page.

Speaker 1 It's next season already. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
So

Speaker 11 we don't need Hank putting out things about last year during that banner night. Like it's next season.

Speaker 1 Very looking back.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you're still celebrating what happened already.

Speaker 1 Summer of Hank just took a twist.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's mad. No, but he has to listen to his coach.

Speaker 1 You're the one guy who can tell him what to do.

Speaker 11 Hey, Hank, whatever it takes, however long it takes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I guess I'll be at the parade with a shaved head.

Speaker 1 Oh, Hank is so you're so angry right now.

Speaker 6 Hank, it would be an honor for me to shave my head if any of my teams won a championship. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I mean, Hank, I think this is a huge moment for us because you're going to lead the charge on

Speaker 11 like, okay, we won now. It's like the next, we got to get ready for the next thing.
I think like you shaving your head is the beginning of us turning the page to get ready.

Speaker 7 Yeah. The longer you play that.

Speaker 11 The longer we're living in the past.

Speaker 1 The 24-25 Celtic season basically hangs in the the balance with Hank's head.

Speaker 11 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 11 You're a building to stay present and not focus on the past.

Speaker 6 All that hair that's grown out of your head, Hank, that's last season's hair. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to do all new hair.

Speaker 4 All right. Yeah.
We'll see you Friday, coach.

Speaker 11 Can you bring one of those hoodies for me? I like those. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll hand deliver them. Are you going to the parade? I am now.

Speaker 4 I mean, I. All right.

Speaker 1 So maybe we'll get Hank. Maybe we'll get Hank to an after-party with the shaved head.
We figure that out.

Speaker 11 Go.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's a good, that's a good deal, Hank. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, what if that's what? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm badly going to win, Hank. That, that,

Speaker 1 I'm in.

Speaker 4 I'm, I'm ready for, I'm ready for 19. I'm ready for 19 too.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 6 This is a great twist. I love this because he was trying to weasel his way out of it, but he can't.

Speaker 1 Oh, when the minute

Speaker 1 the minute that the coach said he could come on, I was like, this is the one guy that I know if he says it to Hank. Yeah.
He Hank cannot go against.

Speaker 6 He just put the alpha male challenge on you.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And I'm going to answer the bell.

Speaker 1 He put you in the box. That's what it's all about, Hank.

Speaker 6 Coach, what you should do is you were talking about having to maintain the same guy that you were before you won the championship moving forward.

Speaker 6 You were talking about how nice your house is and how you were thinking maybe you had to destroy it. You got to destroy part of your house.

Speaker 11 Bring it down.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Start over again.

Speaker 1 All right. So, last question.
This has been so much fun. Thank you so much, Coach, for joining us.

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Speaker 1 uh are you going to allow yourself to maybe buy something or go on a vacation? Like, you got to give yourself something, right?

Speaker 11 So, I mean, I'm going to take my youngest to Disney World. Okay.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 11 he's seven, so he's at the age where, I mean, that's going to be fun. Yep.
I'm going to the Olympics to see some of our guys.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 11 And then this is our 10-year wedding anniversary.

Speaker 11 So we're going to plan a trip for my wife. You know, I'd like to consider myself the more romantic type

Speaker 11 as she laughs in the background.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's more romantic than a little Olympic basketball?

Speaker 1 Who are you telling? What's more romantic than being in the garden every night? Yeah. I mean, you're well, she can decide.

Speaker 1 You should give her the choice. Olympic basketball or Disney World.

Speaker 11 On the way up here, I was holding the trophy and I was like, can we sleep with this one night?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 11 Can the three of us hang out?

Speaker 6 So what is protocol with a trophy?

Speaker 6 Do you get like a lone time with the trophy? Does it get passed around like the Stanley Cup?

Speaker 11 I mean, some of of the guys have been hogging a little bit, which they should be. So, I mean, I had my time.
I got a couple pictures with it. I gave it a kiss.

Speaker 11 But it just kind of passes itself around.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 I would just, I would be a hog of that trophy. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Well, then the other, the other one, I was supposed to, I am, I got to figure out when I'm going to go to Jerusalem.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I got to go back there.
Yeah. I got to figure it out.

Speaker 1 All right. So my last, last question.

Speaker 1 Al Horford, we're talking about him. Did you have any moments with him after where like, you know, I mean, he's been in the league league forever, and this is just an unbelievable moment for him?

Speaker 11 There's not a guy, I don't think there's a better guy in the league.

Speaker 11 He's awesome. So, the moment I got to be on stage, it was me and my son, him and his son, and his wife, and just all the work.

Speaker 11 Like, you could just see, like, he's more of a guy where he doesn't say as much. You can just see it on his body, you can see it on his face, you can see it by his energy.

Speaker 11 It was just a really cool moment, you know, for him to sacrifice everything that he has to be on stage there and get that. That was awesome.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm forever grateful for him.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you guys were a very easy team to root for. I do think that there was a part of you deep down inside that was like, one more loss would have been nice.

Speaker 6 Just if you give us two games to overcome adversity.

Speaker 1 Just two.

Speaker 1 Yeah, four to two. That's all you need.

Speaker 6 Well, congratulations, coach.

Speaker 1 Yes. Congratulations.

Speaker 6 You made a lot of people very happy, and we're very happy for you.

Speaker 1 And you made us very happy for making Hank shave his head. Yep.

Speaker 11 Oh, dude, yeah.

Speaker 11 And Hank, thank you for setting the example for what it means to be all in on winning and staying process oriented, not focused on the past, but just kind of worrying about, you know, what's next.

Speaker 11 So I really appreciate you doing that for us.

Speaker 4 Thank you, Coach. I die for you.
I'll see you Friday. I'll bring some gear for you.

Speaker 11 I can't wait, man.

Speaker 6 All right. Thanks so much, Coach.

Speaker 1 Thanks. Have fun.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we're going to wrap up the show. We've got a show announcement.
Jake, you're sitting on the couch. I am.
Welcome back to the couch. Thank you.

Speaker 5 It's not green. I don't have a fellow Billy Football by my side.

Speaker 1 Or a snuggling partner.

Speaker 5 Or a professional cuddler.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the cuddler was great. That was a great moment.
Yeah. But yes, you're here.

Speaker 5 I'm here to make an announcement. It's an announcement that is, I think what we all would have agreed was inevitable at some point.

Speaker 5 And I think after talking with you guys, now makes the most sense.

Speaker 5 And the fact of the matter is, this is going to be my last episode on part of my take. What?

Speaker 1 Why didn't you tell us so right now?

Speaker 1 We've actually been talking about this for like four or five months.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so it's been an ongoing discussion.

Speaker 6 We loved having you on the show, Jake. You're a big part of the Pardon My Take story.

Speaker 6 It does not feel like how many years has this been? Five years. It doesn't feel like it's been five years.
Five years.

Speaker 5 Which is what I would call wild.

Speaker 6 It is wild. It's more than half the show, which is crazy to think about.

Speaker 6 We're very glad that you're part of the story, and you're going to continue to be.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 6 me and Big Cat have always said, like, one day you're going to go try to do live broadcasts, and we're going to wish you the best, and we're going to be firmly in your corner. And

Speaker 6 that's very, very true to this day. Like, I wish you the best career possible.
I hope one day you're calling a Super Bowl that we're watching and losing bets on.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that would be the best case scenario. And then you guys are winning.

Speaker 6 And then blaming you for losing our bets.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so we can get into the details so there's no speculation. I know a lot of people might be surprised.

Speaker 5 A lot of people might not be just based on how closely they follow me, my career, and the show.

Speaker 5 But basically, one one of the biggest dominoes for this happening right now is that the direction that Barstall is going in,

Speaker 5 live broadcasting rights are no longer a priority for this company. And that's not a secret.
You've talked about it, Dave talked about it. And obviously, that was my bread and butter here.

Speaker 5 That's where I thrive the most.

Speaker 5 I mean, I'm so fortunate that I got the chance to call multiple bowl games on national television, college basketball, hockey, professional golf that led to those PGA tour events from the connections I made there.

Speaker 5 When you guys hired me as an intern five years ago to mock Darren Revelle, I never thought any of that was remotely possible.

Speaker 5 I was just here to say yes to whatever you guys wanted to prove that I was a hard worker and had this great opportunity on this massive platform. But

Speaker 5 might get emotional.

Speaker 1 It's okay. Yeah.
The fact that

Speaker 1 I'll help lighten the mood. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Remember how bad your handshake was? Yeah, clammy hands. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 I watched it back the other day, and something that stuck out is

Speaker 5 one of you guys asked me, Where do I see myself in five to ten years? And without hesitation, I said, I want to be a national network play-by-play broadcaster.

Speaker 5 And that brings us to now, and that is where I'm going all in on. I've been all in on it for a while.
There's a reason why I don't curse on the air. There's a reason why Ray Allen tweets.

Speaker 5 I'm not going to do the Raid Allen tweets because when I was making this inevitable jump,

Speaker 5 it's so that I have no regrets, I have nothing nothing to hide, and I am so proud of what I've done here in the five years.

Speaker 5 I've accomplished a lot thanks to you guys, and it has been an incredible ride. But doing it right now, making this jump, we all agree

Speaker 5 it makes the most sense because it's the beginning of the summer. It's kind of like the offseason in sports and broadcasting, right?

Speaker 5 So, if I make myself publicly fully available right now, best case scenario, I'm in the booth calling college football this fall. Is that going to happen? Is that reality? I don't know.

Speaker 5 But the odds are going to increase by making this jump right now. Right.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 1 we did start having these conversations back in February and March. So it's not a sudden thing.
I was joking when I said, wait, what? What? Tell us right now.

Speaker 1 And we back in February and March, we basically were like, what is the best way for you to make this jump? And this was always, hey, the NBA Finals is a good spot where you can have the summer.

Speaker 1 You can try to hopefully get something in broadcasting. And, you know, I'll say this right now.

Speaker 1 Anyone who wants to hire Jake, you're going to hire someone who works his absolute ass off.

Speaker 1 Sorry for swearing. It's a guy.

Speaker 1 Who's committed and he does everything the right way. And I, you know, you will always, if anyone hires Jake,

Speaker 1 you will have our support, Jake. You will have the AWL's support.
We don't want to, we want to see you have all the success in the world.

Speaker 1 And it's one of those bittersweet moments where it's like having you on the show for five years, which is more than half of the history of this show, has been awesome.

Speaker 1 Watching you grow into what you are and like, you know, adapt and have to go with the flow more has been very funny and enjoyable. And I know you've grown as a person.

Speaker 1 And I do think that you will be a better broadcaster for everything you did here. I also think that you added a lot to everything we've done in the last five years.

Speaker 1 And I'm excited for you because I do think that, you know, it's scary.

Speaker 5 It's very scary. It's scary to me.
I'm not going to lie. I'm scared.
There is no clear-cut plan for what's next. Right.
But we've been talking.

Speaker 5 You guys have been amazing with your help and trying to make that a reality.

Speaker 5 So the plan is I'm going to leave Chicago. I'm going to go back home to South Florida as I try to figure out the next step.
I think we all agreed that I don't regret.

Speaker 5 I'm so happy I gave Chicago a shot, but I moved here mostly because I wanted to be part of the team, part of you guys. So I feel like still being in the mix here,

Speaker 5 it might just get a little weird. Yeah.
So,

Speaker 1 yeah. Yeah, I mean, I really do, I think it's the right time in your life, in the move.
It's just like,

Speaker 1 I want to see you fulfill your dreams.

Speaker 1 And we had this conversation that it's like, as much as we love having you on the show, there's always going to be a foot in, foot out that makes it difficult for you to go all the way in and be available all the time where someone can be like, oh, we want to hire Jake to do this.

Speaker 1 You always were testament to you, you always thinking the show first.

Speaker 1 Now you should be a little more selfish and thinking Jake first. And

Speaker 1 I'm excited. And I truly love you.
And you'll always have a home here and you'll always have our backing 100%.

Speaker 6 Whenever you're on TV, whatever events you're doing, I know you're doing some PLL stuff.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I have a few PLL assignments this summer. Hopefully there's some more PGA on the table as well.
And like I said, perfect world. The fall comes around.

Speaker 5 There's a million college football teams and games out there and networks. Hopefully, you know, you guys gave me the shot of a lifetime, no pun intended, five years ago.
You really did.

Speaker 5 This is such an impossible business. It is so hard and so competitive.
And you have to think of ways to get really creative to stand out. And you guys gave me that opportunity.

Speaker 5 And like I said, I'm proud of what I did with this opportunity.

Speaker 6 I have zero regrets and now i'm just looking for someone else to give me my next shot in the booth the same way you guys and you'll get one you'll get one and uh you're you're very good at what you do and you put a lot of work into it and like big cat said whoever is out there if you're listening to this show and you're thinking well i've got you know i've got this one open spot for a game we don't have anybody lined up just yet or if there's a big route whatever the case may be if you're listening to this jake marsh will be the best worker that you'll ever hire

Speaker 1 yeah and he won't do the ray allen tweet i I won't do the Ray Allen tweet.

Speaker 5 And again,

Speaker 5 I could have caved just to make you guys happy, but now

Speaker 5 Jump. There is nothing I regret.

Speaker 6 Did not do Ray Allen tweet. Maybe doing the dip.

Speaker 1 Okay, what if, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 What if CBS calls you and is like, hey, we want you to be part of college football this fall. Okay.
But we need to do the Ray Allen tweet.

Speaker 5 But I have the job. Yeah.
And I, like, that's for life.

Speaker 1 Well, not for life.

Speaker 5 I mean.

Speaker 5 As long as it wouldn't.

Speaker 1 You got to be be ready for this, Jake. They might throw this out at you.
Then I'll do it.

Speaker 1 That's the reason I'm not doing it.

Speaker 5 It's not because, like, I'm against what it says.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, you know what? Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I like that. Let's go.
But freaking

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 That's the only reason I'm not doing it. It is multiple positions.

Speaker 6 You're also getting a guy that can lay the pipe.

Speaker 5 No, but in all seriousness, like, I know my role on this show. I know I'm a very small part of it, but it's been a major part of my life.
And I owe you guys forever.

Speaker 5 And this this is not building the bridge.

Speaker 5 No, I really mean that.

Speaker 1 No, but you gave us stuff too. So it's not, it's a, we all won with our relationship and our relationship isn't over.
Like I said,

Speaker 1 you're always a friend of the show and always have a home here and we'll always be rooting for you

Speaker 1 and spotlighting whatever you're doing next. So that's, that's never going to change.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And it is worth mentioning

Speaker 5 for the next few months, You two, Dave, Hank, we've come to the agreement that I'm still going to be employed by the company.

Speaker 5 and i'm really fortunate for that opportunity i'm still going to be active on social media writing blogs for the website still making golf videos hopefully hit another hole in one on camera first one second one

Speaker 5 um so i'll still be around the next few months but it's all systems go i'm looking for a full-time broadcasting job and hopefully it happens sooner rather than later.

Speaker 1 Love it. I think you'll get there.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 And when you're on TV, we will make sure to let people know so that they can follow you. Also, just follow Jake on social media.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you guys are letting me keep that Twitter account too, which is huge because if you do the Reality Tweet.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just kidding. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they'll know where you're at.

Speaker 6 Yeah. But we will also remind people once you're on TV, because you will be on TV.
People call on the game and we'll say with great pride, there's Jake Marsh.

Speaker 6 And I'm going to root so hard for a scoregami.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Dude, Vicadozan.

Speaker 1 I'll root for the first score. Only when Jake's on.
I'll just score a gami, I'll FaceTime you this year.

Speaker 5 That would be cool. Yeah.
I'm calling NFL game.

Speaker 1 All right, all the years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I will be mad at you if you do a call on a game that I'm gaming. You'll be able to get it.
You're a technique of your best friend. Oh, no, you'll hear from me.

Speaker 5 I know it's over. That's your system.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Oh, if I'm watching, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 No matter what. It's true.
One of my sisters.

Speaker 4 What were you going to say, Hank? Have you given any thought to the at name change?

Speaker 5 So PFTN, I talked about this beforehand. I'm down to keep it.
Indefinitely. Maybe there's probably a time where it will be appropriate to change it.

Speaker 6 I think at some point you should change it. You don't need to change it just yet, but at some point you should, yeah.

Speaker 5 But I think that would be a cool little thing for the AWLs.

Speaker 1 You might want to change it for yourself. Yeah, maybe.
But you can also just put, you know, that you were the PMT sportsman. I mean, that's up to you.

Speaker 5 I might change put in my alum, like, my bio, part of my take alums.

Speaker 1 Right, right, exactly. Because you might want to be like, hey, I would like to

Speaker 5 be there. That's what we talked about, too, is

Speaker 5 I'm not technically I am technically leaving the show, but I'm kind of graduating from it, and I still have the ties permanently to part of my take, which I'm so proud of.

Speaker 1 And you're like the safest bet that you won't do anything bad that will make us be like, wait, we're not associated with you. I don't think we would give that to anyone else.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I would keep the handle for now if you want.

Speaker 6 But then, yeah, change it because

Speaker 6 you've got to go out there on your own, and this is something that you're doing, and

Speaker 6 this is going to be Jake Marsh on TV. It's not going to be part of my take on TV because on the other end of it, there are certain networks that might not want

Speaker 6 part of my take

Speaker 6 as the host of whatever show it is. But yeah, you got to spread your wings at some point, but there's no rush on that.

Speaker 1 What are you

Speaker 1 last thing? Who's going to do some of the tasks you did?

Speaker 1 Should we give it like who's going to do nerd nugget? Oh, my God. Well, I think you can take nerd nuggets.
No.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
You can take it with you. But, like.

Speaker 5 Reminders? I still have plenty of reminders. I can still tweet you guys when they pop up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or you could, I would like to see someone fail at this.

Speaker 1 Maybe Pug. Maybe Pug has to do the reminders because because he'll just be like, I'm such a bitch.
I was supposed to remind you this a month ago and I forgot.

Speaker 5 We have a few, I think.

Speaker 6 Can you just tell Pug right now?

Speaker 1 Give us two. Give us two that you got off the top.
Yeah, I'm looking. Quick reminders.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 what we're going to say. Max, do you have anything to say?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no.

Speaker 5 It's a sad day.

Speaker 5 I know I was only joined with you in this booth for a a couple months, but you know, it always hurts to lose a member of the team.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 5 we're going to miss you back here.

Speaker 1 This is a good one. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And again,

Speaker 5 I thanked you guys, but the two of you and Hank, you gave me a break that I never saw coming. I never saw my career going in this direction, but I'm so happy and glad it did.

Speaker 5 And I learned so much about myself in this building. The first day, you guys told me, you have to grow thick skin.
It's the only way to survive here because of the massive platform.

Speaker 5 And I can say I've certainly done that. Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I think you've gotten, it's crazy to think about the changes. And

Speaker 1 they're all have been great. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So thank you guys.

Speaker 5 The four guys behind the glass are,

Speaker 5 with no doubt, the hardest working crew in sports media.

Speaker 1 Hank is behind the glass.

Speaker 1 Hank was there. Hold on.
You didn't mean Hank. If, Jake, if you were in Hank, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You meant Shane, you mean Shane, Pug, Max, and memes. Hank.
He's sitting right there.

Speaker 5 What I was going to say is...

Speaker 1 Be careful.

Speaker 1 He's got golf coming up.

Speaker 5 Not a lot of people know this. These guys are pulling nearly all nighters three nights a week.

Speaker 5 That's insane. We finish recording at 2 or 3 a.m.

Speaker 5 And we wake up. We go home at midnight.
They're here till 4 in the morning. We wake up three hours after they go to sleep and all the clips are done.
The YouTube is up.

Speaker 1 It's just... You actually should, you need to text us in the fall and tell us what it's like getting your Sundays back.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 That is going to be interesting. That is the one thing where I'm like, oh, my God.

Speaker 6 It'd be like every weekend feels like a holiday.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I actually think about that like the day that you retire where it's like, oh, wait, I can watch football on my couch and then go to sleep after Sunday night football. That's crazy.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 But yeah, thank you to you guys. Thank you to the producers and thank you to the AWLs.
You guys, every single in-person interaction I've had with you guys has been remarkable.

Speaker 5 You're the most loyal, passionate fan base in the world, really, more than any other sports team, I think because these guys live and die by everything we say they know every little detail about us what we talk about on the show and it's just so cool I think Ouler's fan base is pretty good too though I have a limited amount of interaction but from what I remember they're pretty strong yeah but I

Speaker 5 a lot of big big hearts yeah the same way my relationship with you guys in this room is not going to change.

Speaker 5 I hope to continue making relationships with AWLs around town and seeing seeing all of them and talking about PMT and talking about sports.

Speaker 5 I just think it's such a cool dynamic and connection that you really can't find anywhere else.

Speaker 6 You know, it'll be a very funny twist if Jake wrote a tell-all book about PMT. Oh, afterwards.

Speaker 1 There's really nothing I think of that would be. Which would be like, yeah, we order for dinner on Sunday.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Surprising.

Speaker 6 But, Jake, we love you and best of luck. And

Speaker 6 I look forward to seeing you do great things. Yes.

Speaker 5 Thank you guys.

Speaker 1 Flourishing. It's a scary time.

Speaker 5 It's an exciting time.

Speaker 1 I told you from day one,

Speaker 1 it's the goodwill hunting. Then one day I hope you're just like, hey,

Speaker 1 I'm going out. And I'd be like, that's great.

Speaker 1 Leave us fucking idiots to hear.

Speaker 5 You guys are not idiots.

Speaker 1 We're just sitting here being idiots and losing our money.

Speaker 5 Geniuses when it comes to sports media.

Speaker 1 The G-word is not correct. Yeah.
Do you want to take back the Hank hardworking?

Speaker 1 Hank's hardworking.

Speaker 5 For my first three years, he was pulling all-nighters. I'd walk in on Monday morning.
He's sleeping on the green couch.

Speaker 6 That's just because he was tired.

Speaker 1 Yeah, from staying up all night editing the podcast yeah but then he was he was very cool he was the first of our group to retire he's in retirement no

Speaker 1 basically but um i'm proud of myself for not crying because i yeah no that was big i was gonna cry that was huge you didn't i didn't you want to

Speaker 5 no okay it'll be perfect time to cry later yeah I think on like Sunday night's going to be weird.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I feel like you might

Speaker 1 be like, this is kind of rough.

Speaker 6 Going for brunch.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because it was college, and then I had one year in between, and then here. So, like, my post-grad life, all but one year has been here.
Yeah. And

Speaker 5 Sundays are a big part of that, but I wouldn't change a thing. And

Speaker 1 it's awesome. Yeah.
Well, we love you, Jake. We always will love you.
Thank you.

Speaker 6 Best in the office. Yeah.
Best one here. Yeah.

Speaker 6 That was a great handshake.

Speaker 5 That was a great memory. It was a great handshake.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're the best. And yeah, we'll always be team Jake.
And like I said, you'll always be a part of this.

Speaker 1 And whenever you're back in town you come by and say hello and uh i guess we got to do numbers huh are you gonna get this this would be an all-time walk-off yeah an all-time walk what i feel weird like what if if someone else wins it feels weird this would be awesome if max won this oh yeah

Speaker 5 i want to give jake my number

Speaker 1 i already have a win jake our number wait why i already have a win because this would feel so weird if i won right now max you just said you'd give jake your number like your number's gonna win that's true like come on no we gotta to be men about it.

Speaker 1 And if anyone steals Jake moment, be a man about it.

Speaker 1 Okay?

Speaker 6 I think we should retire number 18.

Speaker 1 No. No, that kid.
No, he's trying to. He's

Speaker 1 got better chances.

Speaker 5 He can retire 18, but throw in a 101.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 5 So it's still 100 numbers.

Speaker 1 18 could just be 101.

Speaker 6 When 18 hits, it's 101.

Speaker 1 We'll put 18 up in the rafters. It's Jake.

Speaker 1 When 18 hits, it's 101. Great.
Yeah. All right.

Speaker 1 Numbers. 8, 20.

Speaker 1 3.

Speaker 1 56. Oh, I should have said 81.
81.

Speaker 5 You already said 56.

Speaker 1 Whatever. 96.
All right, I'll say 56.

Speaker 6 What was your pick, A?

Speaker 1 99 Poke.

Speaker 1 96.

Speaker 1 Shane, what was it?

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 1 Shane tried to give me a... Bacon wrapped plantain off his fucking gross ass plate and and was so confused why no one was eating it.
Weirdo, Shane. See, this is what you're leaving us with, Jake.

Speaker 1 You're leaving us with weirdos like Shane.

Speaker 1 How do we get more Shane?

Speaker 6 Shane's never eaten a banana until today. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He actually told me the other day that the first grape that he had was last month. That's wild.
One grape. One single grape he ate.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 99 pug. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 You motherfucker pug.

Speaker 1 You stole his moment, pug. God damn it, pug.
Could you?

Speaker 5 Now I'm definitely not sharing those reminders.

Speaker 1 Oh, what a fucking moment, pug.

Speaker 6 You son of a bitch. This is for Jake, too.
This is for all of us.

Speaker 1 You son of a bitch.

Speaker 1 It's for the whole squad. That number's on five.
On five.

Speaker 6 No sense of the moment, pug. Yeah.

Speaker 1 God damn, pug.

Speaker 6 This is Jake's 99, too.

Speaker 1 It's all of our 99. No, no, it's your 99, pug.

Speaker 5 All right, it's mine, but.

Speaker 1 Pug.

Speaker 6 How many is that? That's like four.

Speaker 1 Is that four? That's four. God damn, pug.
All right,

Speaker 1 I think we should let Jake sneak. No, this is PFT.
No, no, no. I don't want it.

Speaker 5 I don't want it. Jake, I'm passing the rock to you.

Speaker 5 Come on, Jake.

Speaker 1 Love you, Jake.

Speaker 5 Love you, too.

Speaker 8 Love you guys.

Speaker 1 I'm getting there.

Speaker 1 When you masturbate, think about my tongue.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 your clip and switching back and forth.

Speaker 1 Switching back and forth from my day

Speaker 1 to my

Speaker 1 tongue

Speaker 1 to my tongue

Speaker 1 switching

Speaker 1 back and forth

Speaker 1 from my dick to my tongue

Speaker 1 I'm getting there

Speaker 1 when you've busted your bait, think about my tongue

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 your clip ends, switching back and forth,

Speaker 1 switching back and forth from my dick to my

Speaker 1 tongue,

Speaker 1 dick to my tongue, dick

Speaker 1 to my

Speaker 1 tongue,

Speaker 1 switching

Speaker 1 back

Speaker 1 and forth

Speaker 1 from my dick to my tongue.