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Speaker 1 the Celtics have a commanding 2-0 lead over the Mavericks. We're going to talk about game two that we just watched.
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Today is Monday, June 10th, and Hank is bopping around. The Celtics are up 2-0.
Congratulations, Hank.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Your team is so much better than the Mavs.
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 4 They are a way better team.

Speaker 1 It's a better team win.

Speaker 7 Not even really close. So you're up 2-0 right now.

Speaker 7 92.6% of the time, the team that goes up 2-0 in the NBA playoffs ends up closing it out. And in the NBA Finals, it is 86.1% of the time.
So you guys are looking pretty good right now.

Speaker 1 Where were you for the Drew Holiday game?

Speaker 1 That was crazy because they basically, the broadcasting booth was like the Celtics have the best backcourt, one of the best back courts of all time with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and Drew Holiday and Derrick White were incredible tonight.

Speaker 1 They have Derrick White is their fourth,

Speaker 1 I mean, with a healthy Porzingus, Derek White is their fourth or fifth option.

Speaker 2 And he was like, imagine having that on your team.

Speaker 1 They're just such a good team.

Speaker 7 One of the all-time blocks in playoff history. I'm trying to think of some of the other chased-down blocks that have recorded in the finals.
That one really is the one that jumps to mind.

Speaker 7 Although you will have losers every time you talk about that block that will say it was a foul. Just tune the haters out.

Speaker 4 It might have been a foul, but who cares?

Speaker 1 They didn't call it. They didn't call it right.

Speaker 1 It was, yeah. Drew Holiday was out of his mind.
Derrick White was huge. Jason Tatum, I know he didn't shoot well, but he played an incredible all-around game, rebounding assists.

Speaker 1 He was one rebound away from a triple-double.

Speaker 7 He really wanted that rebound.

Speaker 1 He's also being guarded in a way that, you know, I mean, like, he, I think if you could make any critique on Jason Tatum, it's weird that he's missing some of his layups, but everything else, like, he's getting double-teamed.

Speaker 1 He's making the right pass. And he, you know, like his, the focus that they put on him opens up everyone else, and he had a great game, even though he didn't shoot well.

Speaker 7 I have a fun stat for you, big cat, about Jason Tatum and his shooting woes.

Speaker 7 The Celtics in the playoffs, when Tatum shoots beneath 50% this year, there's 6-0.

Speaker 7 Wow.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think he realizes when he doesn't have his, you know.

Speaker 2 Well, they've only lost two games.

Speaker 1 It's true. His eighth game, he does a great job facilitating.

Speaker 7 I'm trying to gas Hank up because I want cockier hands.

Speaker 1 Does Jason Kidd go into the next press conference saying Drew Holiday is their best player?

Speaker 4 He's going to have to. He's going to have to do something.
That was a smart move by him.

Speaker 5 it was basically like,

Speaker 4 we're already out of this. I need to just be the tank.
Yeah, it was desperate. It was anything I can because we're not going to beat them straight up.

Speaker 7 So set the table, if you didn't hear, Jason Kidd in a press conference said, Yeah, Jalen Brown, he's a great player. He's their best player.

Speaker 7 And it was very much designed to get, I don't know, maybe like Tatum reaching for something or Jalen Brown in his own head.

Speaker 7 He was trying to pull a move like a psychology move, like Phil Jackson used to do, but it does feel like it's too early in the series to break out the big guns.

Speaker 1 And it also feels like it's three years too late.

Speaker 9 Yeah, that's the narrative that they've been dealing with

Speaker 4 for their entire tenure together.

Speaker 1 And there was probably some truth to it a few years ago, but they've been through wars and they've, and like the maturity.

Speaker 1 I mean, you saw Jason Tatum, like he did not shoot well tonight, but he still was super impactful. And like, that's the difference in maturity and like where they are as a team.

Speaker 1 They're just way better than Mavs. And then on the Mavs side, Kyrie Irving, that's Luca can't do much more.
That first half, he was out of control, and he ran out of gas a little bit.

Speaker 1 And it was also smart. The Celtics basically

Speaker 1 played him one-on-one for a long time. Then they're like, all right, now we're going to double him.
No one's in.

Speaker 1 you know, in a feel for the game.

Speaker 4 And they just attack him on defense every offense every single possession.

Speaker 1 But Kyrie, like, that's the difference. Kyrie, you are supposed to be one of the best players on the court.

Speaker 1 And through two games, you have not, like, when Luca comes out, Kyrie has to be the guy and he hasn't been even close to the guy 0-12 since he stomped on Lucky

Speaker 7 do you feel that Kyrie is though kind of delivering on his promise to bring a championship to Boston because he is he kind of is like the way he's playing yeah no he's playing terrible I mean he's not shooting well he's not he wasn't even like a factor it felt like for half the game like he just disappeared he has it he hasn't made a single three-point shot yet and so I think he's what 0 for 8 from 3 right now and he somebody needs to like snap Kyrie out of this because we've been talking we've been been glazing Kyrie a lot these playoffs, talking about how mature he's gotten and how it's interesting how he's like found a fit on a team and he's not causing any division.

Speaker 7 He needs to get weird with it. Kyrie needs to get back.

Speaker 7 Has Kyrie gotten too mature is a question we should be asking.

Speaker 4 I do think this could just be dumb, dumb sports fan take, but I do think there is something to the fact that

Speaker 4 Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum played him one-on-one in practice all the time for years, and it's like that, they probably feel a lot more comfortable going up against him because they know his bag.

Speaker 4 He's one of the best players in the world, but they've been in those situations day in and day out. And you can see when they play that they're not, it doesn't matter who's guarding them.

Speaker 1 They're ready to face this out.

Speaker 7 You know what they're really good at doing? I saw this from Tatum and from Jalen Brown tonight.

Speaker 7 They can time when Tyree, when Kyrie does the almost fake spin and they poke their hand on the backside as the ball is coming up.

Speaker 7 And it's like a very, very small window that you have to hit with him, but they both do have that timed out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the Celtics defense has been incredible. They can't,

Speaker 1 the role players for the Mavs can't get any of their shots off.

Speaker 1 Like, they, you know, Luca, they basically like, Luca's going to do what he does, and we can live with that because no one else is going to be able to do anything because we can guard everyone else one-on-one and have no problem.

Speaker 1 And, like, every guy can play defense on their team, and Kyrie is just, yeah, I mean, he's just been completely shut down. Luca had eight turnovers.

Speaker 2 Like, that's just, that's how good the Celtics defense has been.

Speaker 1 They're just a better team front-to-back, back-to-front.

Speaker 1 The only bad thing that happened tonight was Porzingis looked like he got hurt again. And Max was celebrating before the podcast.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we walked in and Max goes, oh, Porzingis got hurt. Let's go.

Speaker 1 That is, let's play the audio. Play the audio.
We had audio.

Speaker 1 Are you gaslighting us, Max?

Speaker 2 This is out of context.

Speaker 5 Let's go.

Speaker 7 Porzingis kind of got hurt tonight.

Speaker 5 No, you're gaslighting. You're gaslighting.

Speaker 1 No, you're genuinely.

Speaker 7 I didn't have the cans on. I just heard everybody say, wow, Max just was celebrating that Christophe's got injured.

Speaker 5 I was not celebrating.

Speaker 4 Let's go.

Speaker 5 Me and Memes do a very poor job of updating the Herder

Speaker 5 Injured board behind Hank. And I realized that we did not update it before this game.
So I turned

Speaker 5 to memes. I was like, oh, nice.
Porzingis actually got hurt.

Speaker 2 So it's not out.

Speaker 1 That sounds like celebrating time. That's not what you said, though.
You said, oh, nice. Porzingis got hurt again.
Let's go.

Speaker 7 Shane, let's do a quote card. Oh, nice.
Porzingis got hurt again. That was only because it was like.

Speaker 1 Let's go. Don't forget to let it go.

Speaker 5 It was only because of the context of the herder injured board because I forgot to update it, but it updated.

Speaker 7 It kind of updated it. We don't celebrate injuries on this podcast.

Speaker 5 It's not an injury. That wasn't an injury.
That was legitimately just a.

Speaker 7 You were happy that he was injured.

Speaker 5 For the sake of that one thing. And he's not really injured.
Like, he's going to play next game. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 He's going to play and he's going to be fine next game.

Speaker 1 Max, you know what you need to transition your brain to because this series,

Speaker 5 the Celtics are just bad. Yeah, no, this is over.

Speaker 1 So you need, as a,

Speaker 1 to play. Jason Tatum just needs to play horribly.
That's all I care.

Speaker 5 He sucks. You guys were sucking his dick.
He sucked tonight.

Speaker 1 I mean, he didn't. He's terrified.

Speaker 5 He was terrified to shoot the ball to me.

Speaker 9 His shooting has been.

Speaker 5 It's weird. It's weird.
He had open looks at the rim, and then he would just pass out every time.

Speaker 2 It was weird.

Speaker 1 He did have like, what, 12 assists?

Speaker 5 Yeah, but there were times where he had the easier shot, and he just didn't take it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Max, what you need to transition to, because you are the biggest Hank hater on the podcast, which is actually, there is competition for that, and you take the cake. Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 PFT and I do try to vie for that every now and then. It's like one of those.

Speaker 7 Loki memes is the biggest Hank hitter.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, no, memes is 100% the biggest hanker. It's one of those interactive graphics where it shows like, you know,

Speaker 9 like followers year over year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like points leaders or home run leaders in Major League Baseball. And it just, you know, every now and then it will be PFT or me or memes will pop up, but you stay up there.

Speaker 1 You never leave it for very long.

Speaker 5 Well, I mean, Hank's such a dick to me whenever my team loses.

Speaker 4 I would be nice to you if they won, though.

Speaker 1 You need to be rooted. That's true.

Speaker 7 No, Hank would be. He's a very, very gracious friend when your teams end up winning.

Speaker 1 You need to root for a suite

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 1 Friday night would be game four, and we would have, it would basically be old news when we record on Sunday.

Speaker 5 I mean,

Speaker 5 I don't care anymore.

Speaker 7 Max, which would you be, as a hater of Hank, which would you be rooting for harder? Christophe Przingis to be injured and out for the rest of the day?

Speaker 1 I don't want.

Speaker 7 Wait, wait, let me finish the fucking question, Max.

Speaker 1 The other Hank is loving this. Okay.

Speaker 7 Or Luca's rib injury to be severe, severe, and he can't play for the rest of the series. That way you can tell Hank that's a Mickey Mouse champion.
Well, I can put it on.

Speaker 1 Well, I did.

Speaker 5 I said that to. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 He said that to me before.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he said

Speaker 1 Luca was out. Oh, my God.
He wanted Luca to be out for the rest of the day. He just rooted for injuries.
Yeah. He wanted Luca to be out for the rest.

Speaker 7 It doesn't matter who it is.

Speaker 4 What do you have against Europeans?

Speaker 7 Oh, that's a good point. That's a good point.

Speaker 1 Slovenia.

Speaker 5 Nothing. I just like, I don't know.
This is bullshit. This isn't even fun.

Speaker 7 None of these guys are even Italian.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're fake Italian.

Speaker 7 Galinari would never another fun fact about this Celtics team, Hank. They are now 13-0 on Sundays.

Speaker 4 That is a very fun fact.

Speaker 7 Crazy.

Speaker 4 Game seven.

Speaker 7 Game seven would be a Sunday. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's not going to get three. I don't think, I mean,

Speaker 1 if they don't win game, if the Mavs don't win game three, it's a sweep.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'd agree.

Speaker 7 I'd say that anything less than, if it goes six games, that's a big disappointment. I wouldn't even give the Celtics a championship if they would.

Speaker 4 I mean, the Mavs role players, like, they're going to, they, they're also going to make shots, but the Celtics also, like, their bad shooting game. You, you knew they were going to have one.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And this was the one. And they won.

Speaker 7 Were they 26% from three? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they even had Peyton Pritchard throwing in that half-court shot. That was huge.

Speaker 7 It was beautiful. It was beautiful.
I will agree with Max that Tatum, yes, he had a great statistical game, and he did really well in terms of his passing.

Speaker 1 But he

Speaker 1 doesn't touches the ball. They're putting a lot of focus on him.

Speaker 7 He's passing up open shots. It's in his head.

Speaker 4 He had 13 assists.

Speaker 7 He's thinking about it.

Speaker 5 You said it yourself. While we were watching the game, you were like, I don't know why he's not taking that shot.

Speaker 1 It was a couple, but it's not a problem.

Speaker 1 Obviously, because

Speaker 5 you won by 15 points, it's not a problem.

Speaker 1 As someone who thinks that Tatum is overrated just by sitting next to Hank when he said that Tatum was better than Luca,

Speaker 1 Tatum played well tonight. Like, he didn't shoot well, but the impact he had on the game was significant.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 5 but you can't say that you watch that game and you're like, that looks like a guy who was like one of... And the game was close at times, but he gave him a game.

Speaker 1 27 versus Philly when he was terrible and then he just took over in the fourth quarter. He does.

Speaker 1 But if you take him out of that game, it's a completely different Celtics team because they can't. Like he makes so much and his rebounding is so good.
And

Speaker 1 there's so many more parts of the game. I agree that his shot looks off.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 It's more of his layups. His layups have not been going in like they usually do, but everything else he does is winning basketball.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Right now, he would be, if you were to rank your NBA Finals MVPs for the Celtics, what would he be? Fourth?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Almost getting a triple-double today.
I mean, that would be fourth would seem.

Speaker 1 I mean, you can't do it after two games.

Speaker 4 It's pretty close, yeah. I mean, it's probably Jalenis or Krzingis would get some

Speaker 1 true would get some verse.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's two games, so it's like.

Speaker 2 It just shows how good there are as a full team.

Speaker 5 Yeah, there's so m there's just so many guys on this team.

Speaker 1 Brad Stevens should get the

Speaker 1 Brad Stevens should have said that. Lucky those games.

Speaker 7 Lucky should get MVP consideration.

Speaker 1 Kyrie, yeah, this is

Speaker 1 Kyrie, the Kyrie story arc just having like a renaissance this entire spring.

Speaker 7 But you know what I'm saying? Like, when they talk to him about Boston, he sounds like very mature. Like, I love the city.
Still a lot of people up there that I really care about.

Speaker 7 And yeah, it didn't go the way we wanted. But, you know, sometimes things in life, it's like too much perspective.
I want to hear like the Kyrie hatred for Boston.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's gotten too mature. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I want him to get.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's the.

Speaker 4 Well, I mean, what would you do if you tried to disrespect the entire city and then went where's Owen 13 against them since then?

Speaker 1 Is it Owen 13?

Speaker 1 Wow. Tip my hat and say,

Speaker 7 they're my daddy.

Speaker 1 The old Pedro. Damn.
Owen 13? That's crazy. Luca

Speaker 1 is hurt as well, but I don't really know.

Speaker 1 He's all-time hurt when he's missing shots. He did the big bend.

Speaker 1 Feeling good.

Speaker 4 He just runs out of gas, too. He was just out of gas.

Speaker 7 He did the big bend. He had his knee iced up.
He had his ribs iced up. Did you see the big wrap that they put around his torso?

Speaker 7 It was like something that you put on a stabbing victim. It was wild.

Speaker 7 We need a flowchart.

Speaker 1 Luca hits incredible shot,

Speaker 1 and then it leads to talking shit to someone sitting in the first 10 rows. Luca misses shot.
Oh my god, is he out for the series? Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 7 He got into it with one of the Celtics' owners, I think, sitting in the front row, and they started jawing at it.

Speaker 1 I did like the Celtics fan rubbing his belly during Luca's free throws. What's up with Luca and Jalen Brown just like being incredible offensive players and not being able to hit free throws?

Speaker 4 Jalen Brown hasn't been that bad in the finals, but

Speaker 1 it's weird.

Speaker 1 Luca makes even less. Luca makes some of the most

Speaker 7 hardest shots ever, and then he gets to the free throw line and it's like what is going on you know how we're saying that some players should just take a couple steps back like if if you're goal key and you're really good at shooting threes shoot from the top of the key um what luca should do first he should try to dunk a free throw i think that is in the rules yeah um the second thing he should do is try to do a fadeaway well he actually just needs a uh maybe one of his teammates to just stand behind him Yeah, like stand like, because you know that shot he makes where he gets a guy on his hip and he just makes that every single time.

Speaker 1 He needs a teammate to just stand on his hip and he kind of can lean away from it and hit it every time.

Speaker 7 And maybe like almost foul him. Yeah, right.
And then Luca can complain about getting fouled on a foul shot. On a foul shot.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think we solved it. Hank, what? I mean,

Speaker 1 you're as happy as it could be. You deserve it.
I mean, you were, well, you don't deserve it. No, I think I do.
You don't deserve it. Oh,

Speaker 7 I hate this smile. This is me bringing...
It's bringing me to Max's side very quickly, seeing this little grin on your face.

Speaker 2 Your happiness is deserved.

Speaker 1 You don't deserve it personally, but your happiness is deserved. It's been a long time.

Speaker 4 It's been a long time, and it's not over. It's only two games.

Speaker 1 Oh, come on.

Speaker 4 There's work to be done.

Speaker 1 80%, Hank. There's just.

Speaker 5 I'm done with cocky Hank. I don't need him to be any more cocky.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? Like, yes, the Mavs could win a game. Yes, they could even win two games.

Speaker 2 They could win the next two games.

Speaker 1 You still wouldn't be that nervous.

Speaker 4 Two games would be a little bit, depending on how they went. But no, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 Like, the Celtics shot like shit tonight, and they had that game in full control for the entire second half.

Speaker 1 The only time that the Mavs looked like they were going to maybe win this game was when Luca was just hitting absolutely everything in the first half.

Speaker 4 Their role players have been non-existent.

Speaker 7 Not good.

Speaker 7 Well, they could have been in it if they called that foul on the chase down block.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Max Chevy the better.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, I know he was hurt, but he doesn't want to shoot.

Speaker 5 Non-Luca guys were two for 17 from three tonight.

Speaker 2 Two for 17.

Speaker 7 And one of those was Dante Exum.

Speaker 5 One of those was Dante Exhem. I thought we were going to have the Dante Exum game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was one for one. He was actually their best player tonight.

Speaker 1 Beast.

Speaker 7 He killed the whole team out of Dante.

Speaker 2 He was a plus four.

Speaker 1 He actually was their only

Speaker 1 PJ Washington was plus two, but Dante Exum was plus four.

Speaker 1 Led the team.

Speaker 1 More Dante Example minutes.

Speaker 4 South's going seven-point favorites at home to two-point dogs on the road.

Speaker 1 I think that's just desperation. Like, they just.
You know, you'd think that the Mavs going home, they have some pride.

Speaker 1 There's going to be an But I feel like tonight was the off night for the Saunders, except for Drew Holiday.

Speaker 2 He was 11 for 14.

Speaker 1 He was insane.

Speaker 4 Because Tatum was just giving it, like, Tatum

Speaker 4 got him so many open looks.

Speaker 1 How stupid are the Bucs?

Speaker 6 So stupid.

Speaker 1 That really is. And I know that Giannis got hurt in the playoffs, but still,

Speaker 1 how stupid?

Speaker 1 How stupid.

Speaker 7 I mean, he's an elite defender.

Speaker 1 And he has games like this where it's like, he doesn't have to be the number.

Speaker 1 He's never going to have to be the number one option on offense, but he has games where he can play like the number one option on offense.

Speaker 4 And him and Porzingis have experience in their careers taking on more of a significant role. So when they have to step up, they're not going to shy away from it and be like, I'm a good guy.

Speaker 2 Well, maybe not Porzingis, but

Speaker 4 he was the

Speaker 4 guy in New York.

Speaker 1 This was his first

Speaker 1 game one was his first game after the first round.

Speaker 4 No, I'm just saying

Speaker 4 as a player on a team.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, it's like the number one option.

Speaker 1 You know you have to score 30 if your team's going to win.

Speaker 4 He's clearly the guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
That's true.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Anything else?

Speaker 1 I mean, Hank, you're just. Congrats, man.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Life is great. Congrats.
It's really good. It's great for you.
Nothing bad's going to happen after this. Now you got to wait

Speaker 1 for Wednesday, but you got Brady Day on Wednesday. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you're just.

Speaker 6 You're going to meet Brady.

Speaker 1 You're doing the past and the future. You're going to meet me.
On one day. What a day for you.

Speaker 7 How many minutes do you think you're going to get with Tom?

Speaker 4 I have no no idea. I don't even know if we're going to meet him, to be honest.

Speaker 1 You're going to go celebrate a guy who won you six Super Bowls and then at night watch Max just took off his headphones.

Speaker 7 Tom's probably going to be like, hey, hey, what are we watching the game tonight?

Speaker 1 Put your headphones back on. You're the producer of this podcast.
Produce. He's pointing to memes.
He's passing the ball. You just couldn't have me say that one set the stage for Hank that one night.

Speaker 5 I mean, Boston's, I fucking hate it.

Speaker 1 It's bullshit.

Speaker 1 Hank has his... He just can't.
He cannot take that smile off his face.

Speaker 5 I need the Phillies to win the World Series.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the Phillies were great today.

Speaker 4 Now they will.

Speaker 5 I mean, they lost one game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a heartbreaking. It was a big game.
It was a London Series.

Speaker 7 London Sunday morning.

Speaker 1 He wanted to lose the London Series.

Speaker 7 The Celtics would never lose on a Sunday morning.

Speaker 1 Every single team that's lost a London game has not gone on to win the World Series. That's a fact.

Speaker 2 I think that's a fact.

Speaker 7 That's a fact, right? Getting doubled up.

Speaker 1 When you play in the London Series,

Speaker 5 you could say the same thing about any team that's won the London Series.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 5 Has never gone on to win the World Series.

Speaker 1 Yeah, playing in the London Series means you won't win the World Series.

Speaker 7 The Mets are not going to win. But if they won today,

Speaker 5 it could have just said that.

Speaker 1 No, you're out. You're out, though.

Speaker 2 You shouldn't have played in the London Series.

Speaker 1 They're going to lose to the Cubs in the first round of the playoffs.

Speaker 7 Every time you'll lose to who?

Speaker 1 The Cubs.

Speaker 5 That's going to be the World Series.

Speaker 1 The Cubs aren't making the playoffs, buddy.

Speaker 5 They're in it right now.

Speaker 1 Dude, they stink.

Speaker 5 The pitching is good, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But they can't fucking hit for shit.
Yeah, because the wild card, the stupid wild card. Make a move at the deadline.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll make a move at the deadline. Get some bullpen depth.
You're right.

Speaker 5 That's my biggest nightmare. I keep thinking about it.

Speaker 1 By the way, can we say, real quick, Jazoo, because we're on baseball,

Speaker 1 you're at. Scoobel Cy Young.
Scoobel Cy Young, also bad Sports Town Philly. Scoobel Cy Young, he's been incredible.

Speaker 1 And that guy who gave me the tip when we did the cheesesteak pass out at Detroit, he just handed me a piece of paper and said, take Scoobel Cy Young.

Speaker 1 Because I said Scoobel, Cy Young, and then I had multiple, I think it was two or three Phillies fans reply, Ranger Suarez.

Speaker 5 But that's.

Speaker 1 It's really tough to not know that they give out two Cy Young's outs.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's tough. It's tough.
Very tough.

Speaker 1 Very, very tough.

Speaker 5 Well, I mean, Philly fans are, I mean, sometimes we're not the smartest people

Speaker 1 on the earth.

Speaker 1 There's just one guy just being like, it's already locked up, Ranger Suarez. Like, buddy, I hope you're sitting down.
They give two of these out every single year.

Speaker 7 If Kyrie Kyrie does the, I brought a championship to Boston, that's exactly what Bryce Harper did when he signed with the Phillies.

Speaker 7 He said, I've been looking forward to bringing a championship to Washington, D.C.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Crazy, right?

Speaker 1 He's fulfilling the prophecy. All roads lead back to the business.

Speaker 7 The Harper slide yesterday was so sick. What's up with him driving?

Speaker 1 We're done talking about baseball.

Speaker 1 We were currently talking about baseball.

Speaker 7 The city of Philadelphia has driven Bryce Harper to drink vodka in the dugout.

Speaker 2 Is that what I'm drinking?

Speaker 5 He doesn't drink.

Speaker 7 I know he's a Mormon. I think it's one of those Homer juice things where you do something good and they hand you like a fake bottle of liquor.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably. Hank, what's better winning

Speaker 1 Banner 18 or just having to or being around Max and watching just the pain and torture going through his body at all times?

Speaker 4 Banner 18, but

Speaker 4 you get the runoff forever.

Speaker 4 Whenever I see him, I'll get all the merch.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah. Where would you rank this championship when the Celtics do win? Is that in your top 10 of Boston championships?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Top five?

Speaker 1 It's up there.

Speaker 4 The Celtics are my favorite team as a Boston sports fan.

Speaker 7 It must be hard to have just one team.

Speaker 4 I was only a freshman when they won in high school. I wasn't fully developed.
My frontal lobe is all the way there now. Oh, it is? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's news to us.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 4 It'll be nice as an adult if they do win.

Speaker 7 This is the first Boston championship that you can truly remember.

Speaker 4 Celtics. Well, no, I remember the.
But your frontal lobe.

Speaker 5 Your week is incredible.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you have a golf day tomorrow, and then you can just go straight.

Speaker 1 Mandatory golf day. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 That's why he's rooting so hard for holiday. Reminds him of vacation.

Speaker 4 The truth.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Who came up with that one? I think Polar.

Speaker 1 The Truth. Fire.

Speaker 7 Okay. Drust the Process.

Speaker 1 The Stanley Cup final started. They did.

Speaker 2 And goalie Bob stood on his fucking head.

Speaker 7 Unreal. Unreal.
32 shots, 32 saves.

Speaker 1 It reminded me of Nick Turani when he made that save where he was coming across and did a cartwheel. Wild move.

Speaker 7 He even had a save where maybe multiple saves without a stick.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 He was just unconscious. Yeah.
And I feel like Edmonton might be the better team, but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Didn't matter that night. They outshot him.

Speaker 1 They looked like the better team, but it's just like you have the better goalie, and goalie bob was just insane. Not that Skinner played poorly, but it was just an all-time Stanley Cup performance to

Speaker 1 shut them down. And

Speaker 2 we also got, did you see Chiclets?

Speaker 12 Yep.

Speaker 1 Got the Oilers fan, the exclusive.

Speaker 7 I heard she's dating R.A.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I heard so. I heard that as well.
Long distance.

Speaker 7 Was R.A. the guy in the crowd tonight that was just grabbing his ribs at Luca?

Speaker 1 It looked like R.A., but

Speaker 7 if it was R.A., he'd just be grabbing his liver.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, ah. What do you say?

Speaker 4 They asked Missoula about Porzing. Oh, we were talking about hockey.
And he said, Zero, he's good. I just want to update Max.
So let me erase him off of this board.

Speaker 1 Zero, he's good.

Speaker 5 No, I am happy. I am happy that he's not injured.

Speaker 1 He almost slept right there.

Speaker 5 No, I am happy that he's not injured. And it still works for the board.
So

Speaker 1 all is well.

Speaker 5 He's neither hurt nor injured.

Speaker 1 All is well.

Speaker 7 It's the most panicking. All is well.

Speaker 1 All is well.

Speaker 7 Everything is well.

Speaker 1 Put Luca on there if you want, Hank.

Speaker 5 That works.

Speaker 7 Did you see the video of him walking into the game tonight? Yeah, he had his cup of coffee down on his side, and it looked like he shit himself. He was just doing the Chipotle walk down the aisle.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he looked like he was going to get a flight after a long weekend in Vegas. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's like, this is,

Speaker 1 I have to reassess everything.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the hockey game was incredible.

Speaker 2 Goalie Bob.

Speaker 1 We also had Mike McDaniels. I'm going to keep calling him Mike McDaniels.
People get mad about that, and I kind of enjoy it.

Speaker 1 Mike McDaniels got a playoff win because he banged the drum or whatever they do. What do they do?

Speaker 7 Bang the drum?

Speaker 10 They bang the drum. Yeah.
So then the crowd chants, let's go, Panthers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they got a drum.

Speaker 7 Oh, that's good.

Speaker 1 Also.

Speaker 7 Wait, does he have to update the meeting times now?

Speaker 1 I don't know why he didn't have number 24 in his jersey. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 24 just lives in his brain.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but yeah, the Panthers looked good. I mean, Goalie Bob looked good.
Yeah. I just like saying Goalie Bob.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the P's look.

Speaker 7 They are going to be very, very tough to beat if Goalie Bob does goalie Bob things.

Speaker 1 We deserve at least one of these series to go

Speaker 1 the distance or have some iconic moments.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's going to happen in the NBA Finals, Max Delente.

Speaker 7 Just get us to the Olympics.

Speaker 7 Get us as close to the Olympics as possible, and then summer's just on fast forward. And unfortunately, the big reason why we know you were really looking forward to cheering on our Olympic team.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah. Is Caitlin Clark? Yes.
Unfortunately, she's not going to be on the team, so I guess we're not going to be watching.

Speaker 4 That was true. It's just dumb.

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 4 dumb. It's not smart.

Speaker 1 It's okay. So I have.

Speaker 1 I agree with you. It is dumb.
You have a moment in time where everyone is tuned in to Caitlin Clark, and she is,

Speaker 1 maybe since like Tebow, in terms of the takes that she, she is just she generates them, yeah.

Speaker 1 She doesn't say anything, but she just generates takes because people are just angry all the time about Caitlin Clark. And it's also.

Speaker 2 I'd say Kaepernick.

Speaker 1 I think what it is, too.

Speaker 7 That was the

Speaker 1 remember Kaepernick didn't. He wasn't playing.
Yeah. Right.
So it was kind of the same thing.

Speaker 7 Well, he was playing at the start.

Speaker 1 No, but then he's.

Speaker 7 He had the shoulder injury.

Speaker 4 Most of his his takes were after

Speaker 1 he stopped playing. So it wasn't like new takes.
It was the same. Caitlin Clark, it's a new take, a new thing that has happened every single day.

Speaker 7 Yeah, there's an industrial complex.

Speaker 1 They're not recycled takes. They're just new ones about jumping around to each topic.

Speaker 7 There should be a different version of Twitter that's just Caitlin Clark Twitter. Yeah.
Where it's like, okay, you want to argue about Caitlin Clark? Okay, go here.

Speaker 7 Don't make all of us read it all the time.

Speaker 7 And I think there's a pretty big percentage of the reason why she's not on the team is just because they didn't want to deal with all the bullshit of people coming out with takes about Caitlin Clark every single day.

Speaker 7 Which is the dumbest reason ever. It's a dumb reason.
Not a good basketball reason.

Speaker 1 This happens in sports when

Speaker 1 it probably will never happen just like this again because you have a sport in WNBA that's not super, super popular and mainstream. And then you have...
Caitlin Clark fans show up to it.

Speaker 1 So it's like there's a bunch of people who are Caitlin Clark fans, not WNBA fans. And then you get, it's almost like an earthquake of takes where the two

Speaker 1 tectonic plates hit each other.

Speaker 7 Max, you're a plates expert. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Clean plate club.

Speaker 5 That was crazy.

Speaker 1 That was a crazy side swipe.

Speaker 1 But it's incredible.

Speaker 1 She's an industrial take complex that just keeps churning them off. The only thing I would say, Hank, and PFT, I don't know if you agree with this.
So dumb to not capitalize on her her here.

Speaker 1 Extra dumb if it was actually

Speaker 1 veterans on the team saying we didn't want to deal with her. Because, again, this is like if you're trying to grow the sport, this is going to grow the sport.

Speaker 1 Is it crazy to say, though, in a weird way, I think Caitlin Clark might have been a little bit relieved because she probably wouldn't have played that much, and

Speaker 1 she finally gets a little bit of a break from the take machine, and she's been going, going, because like the WNBA, the way it works is they played the whole college season and then she got drafted like two weeks later then she's playing in the WNBA I feel like this is I would hate to be you would hate to be the person on the team that's not getting any minutes and gets talked about more than everyone else yeah so I think that there's a probably a good amount of her that's like okay I I'm okay with not going she's playing she wants a break

Speaker 7 and I think that it's it would be uncomfortable for her if she was over there and all of her teammates were getting asked questions about her as they're winning a gold medal, yeah, that would be weird.

Speaker 7 Now, if you really want to see some fucking takes pop off this summer,

Speaker 7 this is going to be good. This is going to be good for the internet, just in general, for internet traffic.

Speaker 7 Brittany Griner gets all the minutes that Caitlin Clark was supposed to get, then everyone's pissed off. Then the takes are going to keep going, regardless of whether or not she's there.

Speaker 4 Is there any chance they lose? Because that would be

Speaker 1 minus 1,400.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They haven't lost

Speaker 1 in forever.

Speaker 4 That would be Take City.

Speaker 1 Now, I don't even know.

Speaker 1 I'm not an expert on the roster. Was there a person that was specifically you could point to and say that they shouldn't be on the team?

Speaker 7 I'm not an expert in women's basketball.

Speaker 7 Maybe Diana Taurasi. I don't know.
I don't know if she's still good, but I do know that this would be, I think, her sixth gold medal.

Speaker 1 So she's getting

Speaker 1 crazy.

Speaker 7 Yeah, right. So she would get in.

Speaker 7 And then I feel bad for the first time in my life, I felt bad for Christian Leitner today. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 7 he started to get trending online because everybody was like, well, you can always bring the best college player. Like when we got Christian Leitner on the dream team.
Yeah. And everyone said.

Speaker 7 When Shaq was still in.

Speaker 1 Everyone said at the time it should have been Shaq. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's just interesting.

Speaker 4 You get one player of the year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Championship. All right, Duke Boy.

Speaker 1 Shut up.

Speaker 1 Fact.

Speaker 1 There is an interesting dynamic. I asked that question because there's an interesting dynamic going on.
I don't know if she deserved to be on the team in terms of playing, right?

Speaker 1 I know she deserves to be on the team in terms of if you're trying to grow the sport, she should be on the team.

Speaker 1 But it is very funny to me if she didn't, if you could make the argument that she didn't deserve to be on the team just by, just from playing,

Speaker 1 that there's a group of people who normally would be anti-participation trophy now saying put her on the team just because of who she is.

Speaker 7 Also, USA basketball, their goal isn't to get eyeballs. Their goal is just to win the gold medal, and that's pretty much it.
So I don't know if

Speaker 7 it's players on the team or if it's the people that are in charge of the roster makeup, but

Speaker 7 I would not be surprised if they were just like, I don't want to deal with the Caitlin Clark shit.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 She should be on the team, though, just because it would be good for the sport.

Speaker 1 But again, I honestly think that if you hit Caitlin Clark with True Serum, she's like, that's a little bit of a relief because it just would have been a whirlwind.

Speaker 1 And I wouldn't, if she, if she was on the team and playing, then it, then, yeah, it makes sense. Like, she, she would want to be on the team.

Speaker 1 But if she's on the team and she's not getting any minutes, that would suck beyond belief.

Speaker 7 What if she shows up once the WNBA kicks back in and she just cuts her hair, dyes it? She's got like short blonde hair now.

Speaker 1 You know what she should do?

Speaker 3 She's Italian.

Speaker 1 If you have any amount of Italian in you, you can get an Italian passport.

Speaker 6 She should play for Team Italy. That'd be very funny.

Speaker 1 That would fucking rock.

Speaker 7 What if she won?

Speaker 1 She won and played for Team Italy?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't think they're in it. All right.
I'll save the 12 teams.

Speaker 7 They would let her in.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They should just make an exception.

Speaker 10 The second favorite is China at plus plus 2,000.

Speaker 1 We're going to fuck China up.

Speaker 7 If she became Chinese.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but should we be rooting against the U.S.

Speaker 7 just for the takes? Well, yeah, for the show.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 She's a take machine.

Speaker 1 She's incredible. All right.
Other things we've got to talk about. Let me see.
I had a list.

Speaker 1 Is Dan Hurley going to go to the Lakers? We're going to find out today.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, you have to make an announcement today.

Speaker 7 One way or the other. Which is it going to be? Because right now Vegas has him going to the Lakers.
I think he's plus 300 to stay at UConn.

Speaker 1 I think he is going to stay at UConn.

Speaker 7 The fact that it's taken this long and that he made an announcement, like, okay, I'm going to make my decision on Monday, it feels to me like it's going to be a hype video.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm back.

Speaker 2 I'm back.

Speaker 1 And he's also going to get a crazy contract. And he can essentially, this is the course of Dan Hurley's career.
He's going to stay, probably win another couple more. And then

Speaker 1 he's kind of told UConn fans, like, I do want to eventually go to the NBA. So when it, when it happens five, six years down the line, it won't hurt as much as it would have hurt right now.

Speaker 7 This is a dream scenario for Dan Hurley if he was just trying to get a raise. Yeah.
Like the way that the last three months have shaken out has been incredible.

Speaker 7 From the Kentucky job opening up to the LA Lakers job opening up. That's like the best one that he could ever have.
Yep. Just drive up his value.

Speaker 7 So of course, if he does go back to UConn and that's the plan all along, of course you're going to say, yeah, I'm I'm very interested in this Lakers job.

Speaker 7 They made a very compelling offer to me, knowing that your AD is back at home. Like, shit, I got to double the check now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And think about the recruiting when he can just be like, yeah, I turned on the Lakers because I love UConn so much. Yeah.
Come win a national title.

Speaker 7 He's an East Coast guy.

Speaker 1 He's going to take the next job in like five, six years.

Speaker 7 That would not surprise me. Yeah, like that.

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't you wait if you

Speaker 1 unless you think that

Speaker 1 I definitely don't think Dan Hurley suffers from imposter syndrome, but you have to assume, even if you don't win another national title, you're going to be in the mix every single year because winning national titles is hard.

Speaker 1 He will still get the pick of the litter when it comes to whatever job he wants. And if he wants the next job and he wants to stay close, not that Tibbs is on the hot seat, but five years from now,

Speaker 2 it could be Dan Hurley. It could happen.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I want him to stay, but also it'd be very fun if he went to the NBA.

Speaker 1 So, Hank, what do you think? Lakers. Oh, you think he's going to go?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Why?

Speaker 1 You have any inside sources?

Speaker 4 I don't have any inside sources. Billy Football reported that he was going to the Lakers.

Speaker 1 He texted the three of us on Saturday and said,

Speaker 1 I just found out, I ran into the Hurleys in L.A. and I got inside source that he's going to the Lakers.

Speaker 4 Which was basically, I think, he asked, and

Speaker 4 they made a face or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one of them shushed him. One of them shushed him.
And then he said,

Speaker 1 nothing. Means nothing.
They probably were were like, shh, Billy, we're having a conversation, please.

Speaker 7 Billy must think he gets tips all the time from people that are just telling him to be quiet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just looking at him, winking. Like,

Speaker 7 stop talking, Billy. He's like, oh, I got it.

Speaker 1 Something's up. Yeah.
So then he texts us that and said, please do not share.

Speaker 1 I don't want anyone to know. And then Hank even said that before you could even read the text, Billy had tweeted saying Dan Hurley, the Lakers confirmed by me.

Speaker 7 With a graphic.

Speaker 1 Me. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 He also has a 50-50 chance of getting it correct, and he's going to be like, I reported it first if he's

Speaker 7 a material change if he's not anything crazy. Yeah, but as Billy giveth, he taketh away.
If he does get this one wrong, at least he got us Vanny Woodhead.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Vanny Woodhead is

Speaker 7 now in our possession. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Big time who's back. It's got a lot of who's back.
You couldn't. Yeah, well, I could see it on Hank's face.

Speaker 1 Hank's who's back is no different than Steve Corell and Anchorman. Whatever's in front of his face right before we start recording is his who's back.
He's going to be like, who's back?

Speaker 1 The Washington Commanders. Correct.

Speaker 7 You would be right about that.

Speaker 1 Max,

Speaker 1 going or staying?

Speaker 5 There's zero chance he goes to the lake.

Speaker 1 All right, well, you're doing this as an emotional hedge.

Speaker 5 This is smart. Zero.
Very smart.

Speaker 5 I said this. I think I said this to you.
I said the exact same thing that PFT just said was

Speaker 5 the hype video tomorrow is going to be a crazy, I'm not fucking leaving.

Speaker 7 It might be the best hype video ever.

Speaker 5 It's going to be

Speaker 5 the man of theater, and he's very good at it.

Speaker 1 He also, I love that he went to Billy Joel at Madison Square Garden last night, or

Speaker 1 Saturday night, because you can basically play it. It's a choose your own adventure.

Speaker 1 He loves being a Northeast guy so much. This is the most Northeast guy thing to do.
He's staying, or he'd be like, he's saying goodbye to the Mecca and to Billy Joel.

Speaker 1 Well, he did go to Worry, his assistant. Yeah.
That would be very funny.

Speaker 2 I don't know what that means either.

Speaker 7 It would be very funny if he did plan that out as like a goodbye to New York. He's like, I'm going to do one more Billy Joel concert.
Don't know what that means. Yeah.
This is my so-long farewell.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So he's staying, Max.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 He's good. He's good.
He's good for the dramatics. He's

Speaker 2 he's going to fucking

Speaker 5 make me very upset to be a villain of a basketball fan for a long time.

Speaker 4 And that's not changing tomorrow.

Speaker 1 I just tweeted a poll.

Speaker 10 Who breaks the news? Woj Shams, Hurley himself, or the field?

Speaker 1 Ooh, I think Woad. Billy.

Speaker 5 It would be Billy. Yeah.
No, that'll be her.

Speaker 5 Hype video. That's going to be a hype video.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I think Woj might get

Speaker 1 him. He might beat the hype video by like three minutes.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 7 He probably has Hurley's hype video guy on retainer. Like that guy

Speaker 7 as he's producing the video is going to give Woach a heads up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's got Roth as a sleeper.

Speaker 1 Ralph Scene will not have this.

Speaker 7 Was it May?

Speaker 5 Phantom baby. He's awake.
Phanta could. Phantom.
Phanta, that'd be great for him.

Speaker 9 Phanta could.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's do who's back the week so that we don't take anything else that Hank was going to talk about.

Speaker 2 Hank, look around the room.

Speaker 1 You find something?

Speaker 1 You got something? I got something.

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Speaker 7 wait let me guess should we guess shorts Scotty Scheffler yeah I got it I know shorts oh

Speaker 7 shorts shorts are back shorts are back is a big big shorts weekend ah no Scotty Scheffler's back why

Speaker 4 He won the

Speaker 1 Memorial? The Memorial Tournament. Presented by Workday.
Presented by Workday.

Speaker 4 No free ads.

Speaker 7 Fuck Workday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck Work Day. How is his work day?

Speaker 7 Hank doesn't even know what a Workday is.

Speaker 6 I'm a fan of Work Day.

Speaker 1 That's like you're a big fan of Work Day. That's a.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 1 Golf

Speaker 1 Day? Yeah. Well, tomorrow is a golf work day.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 He almost choked.

Speaker 4 I had bet him, and I figured it was the one time I bet him. He was somehow going to choke more car.
Charged late. He He buried 18.

Speaker 4 He's won, I think, basically every tournament except for when he got arrested and when he had a baby.

Speaker 1 I think in his last 12 weeks he's won seven or something.

Speaker 4 I think he's five of eight.

Speaker 4 I think five of seven.

Speaker 1 How many, Jake? I think he's five of eight.

Speaker 1 I saw that.

Speaker 7 He did have his baby on him today.

Speaker 7 Oh, he did? Yeah. His baby was there.
He keeps that thing on him. He keeps it on him, yeah.
You never know. You'd rather

Speaker 7 you want a good guy with a baby instead of a bad guy with a baby.

Speaker 4 Yeah, first win going into Pinehars this week, major week. It's kind of cool.
We were there in the summer.

Speaker 10 Five of eight, and the three he didn't win, two T2s and a T8.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ. Insane.
His win.

Speaker 2 What are his odds for the future?

Speaker 1 Plus 300. Oh, my God.

Speaker 10 I think I saw something.

Speaker 10 He's a bigger favorite than Mavs are to win this series. Jeez.
There's 150 other people in this tournament.

Speaker 1 He's that good. We're going to have a U.S.
Open preview on Wednesday.

Speaker 7 Oh, did you see Detective Gillis's pants? Maybe

Speaker 7 they showed his pants. It was like torn on his butt.

Speaker 7 It still could have been that he shit and he shit so hard that he blew out his pants.

Speaker 1 It was a horrific image. Yeah.

Speaker 7 See, and his knee?

Speaker 1 Those pants. Yeah, he had a scrape.

Speaker 7 Imagine taking a shower after you get that.

Speaker 1 He had the very definition of a boo-boo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, if he went to a doctor and they're like,

Speaker 1 I need you to diagnose me for the police file after Scotty Schuffler dragged me with his car, the doctor would come back and be like, yes, sir, you have a grade one boo-boo.

Speaker 7 would you like me to kiss it

Speaker 1 we could put a band-aid on it even though it's not bleeding yeah with this boo-boo to make you feel better does us being at pionairs last summer do anything for you guys oh it does so much oh yeah i mean just the we didn't play the course they're playing yeah we were we were there we were we walked on a little bit if i had played the u.s open course i would be feeling yes very i saw it

Speaker 10 we were on the third fairway riggs's house yeah

Speaker 1 didn't play it though didn't walk on it all right just a question

Speaker 1 it does a lot for me.

Speaker 7 Does it do anything for you?

Speaker 1 Sounds like it does a lot for school, though.

Speaker 4 I went to Pioneers. I was like, I was just, I was just at Pioneers.

Speaker 7 Not really, though.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we played the

Speaker 1 Pinehurst.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but we were in the Pineha, like we were saying in the hotel, the history, the staff.

Speaker 1 So anytime you're around,

Speaker 1 it's cool. Okay.

Speaker 10 It's kind of like when you fly into a city as a connection, you're like, have you ever been to X? And it's like, well, I've been in the airport. You haven't really been to that city.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Like, if they played the U.S. Open on

Speaker 1 our basketball court, I'd be like, this is fucking sick. I know this course.

Speaker 7 I'm excited just for golf.

Speaker 1 I'm excited for golf.

Speaker 7 For the sport. I don't know what the course is going to look like.
Is Pinehurst, is it notoriously difficult?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, very difficult.
Okay. Well, it's all U.S.
Opens.

Speaker 7 Well, the last, I mean, Valhalla just got its shit pushed up.

Speaker 1 That wasn't U.S. Open.
U.S.

Speaker 2 Open, they make sure.

Speaker 5 Marion was easy. I just know because it's close to where I'm from.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 10 They're known for the turtle shell greens. So

Speaker 1 pretty much. It's a podcast, Mr.

Speaker 7 Pear.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's also YouTube. Use your hand.

Speaker 1 Yeah, use your use your words.

Speaker 4 It's like a bowl. It's like an upside-down bowl.
Yeah, it just makes it...

Speaker 7 It's just like a little middle. Like a helmet.

Speaker 2 That sounds difficult.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That sounds very difficult. I'm excited for the Pines.
No, Mid-Pines is where they're playing.

Speaker 4 Pines is where we played.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 10 Pinehurst number two.

Speaker 1 To Pinehurst number two. And we played Pinehurst number one?

Speaker 4 We played Mid-Pines. Oh, shit.

Speaker 7 So we didn't even play the the other course that Pinehurst has. They had like seven.

Speaker 1 Wait, so we

Speaker 1 didn't even play one of the seven? No. We were supposed to.
Okay.

Speaker 7 We basically played Pinehurst number eight.

Speaker 1 We just were in. We were near Pinehurst.
We were at the hotel.

Speaker 7 There was a pine tree.

Speaker 1 Well, the hotel they're going to be staying at? Some guys, yeah, some guys will definitely stay there. Okay.
By the way, I was so wrong, Marion.

Speaker 5 It was a plus one, the winner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the U.S. Open's always like, that's what they do.

Speaker 1 This is our week to root for the course. Yeah, I am rooting hard.

Speaker 7 I want the winning score to be plus territory. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we need one of our guys to win.

Speaker 4 Brooks. We need Bryson.
I think this is it for Bryson. If Bryson comes and wears, because remember he used to wear the scally cap?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Payne Stewart.

Speaker 1 I could see it happening. Oh, as a child.

Speaker 4 I'll call my shot right now.

Speaker 7 As a homage to Payton Stewart. Gonna bet him?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Hank tells me Bryson's back every week, though.

Speaker 1 He's great. He's played great.
Hank would know.

Speaker 2 He's our Liv correspondent. Yeah, that's true.
How did he do this with this?

Speaker 4 It was a tough week for Liv, to be honest.

Speaker 4 The leaderboard was so bad. Really?

Speaker 7 How can it possibly be bad?

Speaker 4 Because they only have so many top guys, and it was like Patrick Reed, Brooks played okay.

Speaker 1 But can I say something?

Speaker 4 The guy who won, it's like, I never heard of him in my life.

Speaker 1 Can I say something, too, about Liv? And

Speaker 1 I know you're a big Liv head.

Speaker 1 John Rahm got hurt.

Speaker 2 Something about getting hurt while wearing shorts.

Speaker 1 It was sad.

Speaker 7 When you're golfing, you mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was just sad to watch. It just didn't feel like a real golf injury.

Speaker 7 Well, I would say, just in general, getting hurt while golfing.

Speaker 1 He doesn't look good in shorts either, John Rahm.

Speaker 7 He's got a big body. Right.

Speaker 1 And the shorts don't really help. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, your who's back.

Speaker 7 My who's back of the week is Vince Young. Vince Young's back.

Speaker 7 There was a celebrity pro-am that was taking place on the golf channel, and they cut it down to do a walk-and-talk with Vince while he was on the course.

Speaker 7 So they talked to Vince about his

Speaker 7 championship at Texas, his rookie of the year in the NFL, what a great career he's had, what it's like playing golf at a pro-am for the very first time. And it just wasn't Vince Young.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 It was another black guy. Yeah.
It was a guy named Everett Sands, who's the assistant coach at the Citadel, and they thought he was Vince Young. And credit to Everett Sands, who handled it like a pro.

Speaker 7 He was just like, I think you have me confused with somebody else. And they tried to answer the questions very diplomatically.

Speaker 7 He was like, you know, anytime you're out here playing golf, it's great because you're competing against yourself and against everybody else. Just not answering her questions about Vince Young.

Speaker 7 So she probably thought he was being very rude and not answering any of the Vince Young questions. But turns out it just wasn't Vince Young.

Speaker 7 And this guy didn't look a single thing like Vince Young either. No.
He was probably like 5'10, maybe like 210.

Speaker 7 So yeah, tough look. Tough look for the golf announcers out there.

Speaker 1 I kind of like, though, just, you know,

Speaker 1 interviewing anyone.

Speaker 1 Remember that guy, the F1 guy, who was just going up to random celebrities in Miami? Yeah. He just got all of them wrong.

Speaker 7 Or just asking Dana White, what's Joe Rogan's dream? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Shout out to Sage Steel.
What do you got, Hank? We text some plans for...

Speaker 6 Are you going to see Tiff?

Speaker 4 She is.

Speaker 4 She is

Speaker 4 out. She's on vacation, so she's not around Dallas this week.
If it goes to game six, then yes.

Speaker 1 With whom is she on vacation?

Speaker 4 Her friends.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 7 What kind of friends?

Speaker 1 Guys or girls? I don't know. I don't really want to put her

Speaker 4 out there, to be honest, but

Speaker 4 I don't know. I don't know.
I think her friends.

Speaker 7 Did she ask you?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 1 So, game six would be on. On.

Speaker 2 So now we got to root for game six.

Speaker 7 And then that's when Max has to go down there and videotape everything Hank does.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yes. Everything.

Speaker 1 Everything.

Speaker 7 Need you on Hank's hip.

Speaker 7 Everything. On that hip.

Speaker 4 And now I'm rooting for a sweep. Okay.

Speaker 1 My who's back is James Harden. James Harden, very funny video.
He was at a wedding, and it looked like his girlfriend caught the bouquet.

Speaker 2 Incredible catch.

Speaker 1 It bounced off six people before it got to her. And James Harden's reaction was so fucking funny when he just had it all hit him that that means that he needs to get engaged by law.

Speaker 1 And I think it was just, it was basically a Rolodex of all the strip clubs going through his brain in that moment. Being like, I need to say goodbye to a lot of people.

Speaker 7 James Harden, I hope he gets married because he would have the best bachelor party in the history of bachelor parties. Yeah.
it would be

Speaker 7 drop whatever you're doing and just try to show up in the same town as he's at.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I it actually would be very similar to uh the Olympics or the World Cup strip clubs bidding for his bachelor party.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they would have to put out like the offers, and he I would hope he would do it where he'd just do like an announcement video.

Speaker 7 I'm going here because I don't think I don't think I can name a bigger strip club guy than James Harden. I think he is like number one currently at least.

Speaker 7 But he would have, how many, how many strip clubs would he go to on a bachelor party? He would probably just live in one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know if there is a bigger one.

Speaker 4 Future.

Speaker 1 Jersey Jerry.

Speaker 1 Jersey Jerry did give some money to

Speaker 1 back in the day. He gave money to a stripper and she just took it and went back to Brazil.

Speaker 4 That did happen to him.

Speaker 7 What a nice guy.

Speaker 7 If you give a stripper money, is it like a binding contract that she has to stay in the United States?

Speaker 1 No, of course not. But he thought maybe that was going to be the future and then it just wasn't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but James Harden, my who's back of the week, big time who's back.

Speaker 1 Also, just perfect that he's like the NBA Finals are going on.

Speaker 4 That's what we get from James Harden.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 7 Oh, also, talking tennis?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Alcatraz.

Speaker 7 Alcatraz one.

Speaker 1 Alcatraz.

Speaker 7 I think Alcatraz is next.

Speaker 1 He might be

Speaker 2 next.

Speaker 10 He's got the back big today. He blew that third set and he just dominated Foreign.

Speaker 7 Is Carlos Alcatraz him?

Speaker 1 Dude, do you see that video of him when he was 12?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they asked him what his dream was. He's like, gonna win Wimbledon, going to win

Speaker 1 the Spanish Open. Yeah.
Spanish Open?

Speaker 7 French.

Speaker 10 French Open? This is the French Open.

Speaker 7 This is the French Open.

Speaker 1 It's on Clay.

Speaker 1 What's the Spanish Open? There isn't a Spanish Open. I don't think so.
It's just Rafa wins the French Open.

Speaker 7 Correct. If there is a Spanish Open, Rafa has won that too.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Spanish Open.

Speaker 7 So, what is he won a Grand Slam title on every surface now? Alcatraz. Alcatraz.

Speaker 1 And he beat Zavearev, who was going to be next.

Speaker 1 Maybe, yeah.

Speaker 10 But Carlos, he's...

Speaker 1 He's for real.

Speaker 10 Great position to be.

Speaker 1 Great forehand, great backhand.

Speaker 1 Great torque. Great serve.

Speaker 2 Great serve.

Speaker 7 Is this passing the torch?

Speaker 1 Great conditioning. I think.
Great conditioning.

Speaker 7 Jake, look this up for me. When was the last time there was a French Open final that didn't have Nadal, Federer, or Djokovic in it?

Speaker 1 Well, Nadal, it's like never.

Speaker 7 Except for one. But like with those three,

Speaker 7 it's got to be like 15 years.

Speaker 1 Might be even more.

Speaker 10 You have to go all the way back to

Speaker 1 2023. Oh, shit.
Oh, really? Last year?

Speaker 10 Djokovic beat Casper. No, I said Jojo.

Speaker 1 I said Jokovich. Oh, sorry.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 I was looking at the Spanish.

Speaker 7 That would have been very funny if it was last year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I'm going to keep moaning until you get it, Jay.

Speaker 10 2009, Federer and Robin Soderlink.

Speaker 1 No, he said Federer.

Speaker 1 He said Federer. Federer

Speaker 1 Joker.

Speaker 5 You guys are distracting me.

Speaker 1 2004. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 So distracting. Oh.

Speaker 1 I got to take a shit.

Speaker 1 Gaston.

Speaker 10 Audio over Guillermo Coria.

Speaker 1 2004?

Speaker 7 Who could forget?

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 10 Wow, you guys have a hack to distract.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just got to come.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Jake, your who's back.

Speaker 1 Don't say.

Speaker 1 It's in my head.

Speaker 10 My who's back to the College World Series.

Speaker 1 Oh, ping.

Speaker 10 We had some crazy storylines from the Super Regionals.

Speaker 10 The Florida Clemson game today was bonkers. A Clemson player got ejected for celebrating a home run.

Speaker 10 It's always weird, too, when in the Super Regionals, the host team has to play as the away team in game two because Florida hit a walk-off on Clemson's field and sent them home, even though they're already home.

Speaker 7 But that's a cool moment.

Speaker 7 Like a walk-off, silence the crowd, game over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you never get that.

Speaker 5 That sports, you get it, right?

Speaker 10 You could hit a buzzer beater on the road. You could kick a field goal.

Speaker 10 But, yeah, that was crazy.

Speaker 7 My inning of the month goes to the Texas AM Oregon inning. Yeah.
Yeah, like that was crazy.

Speaker 7 They were down four runs, I think, going into it. And then it was like walk, walk, walk, hit by pitch, grand slam, walk, hit, hit by pitch, walk.

Speaker 7 It was crazy.

Speaker 5 Cam Canterella deserves his flowers. That was an unbelievable ninth inning by him.
It sucks that Clemson lost.

Speaker 1 You've always been a college baseball guy, first and foremost. You just lost his Italian.

Speaker 5 The behind-the-pitcher camera went out in the ninth, 10th, and 11th inning,

Speaker 5 which was insane. Watching a game just from

Speaker 5 like an ESPN broadcast on the wide angle behind the plate was one of the more infuriating things I've ever watched. It was torture.

Speaker 7 It was so bad. It's very hard to call balls and strikes with that angle.

Speaker 5 You can't watch anything. You couldn't watch a thing.
You were just like hoping

Speaker 5 you just heard what the umpire was saying.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 It was so, so bad.

Speaker 1 But yeah, college baseball, it rocks.

Speaker 2 We got some games today, right?

Speaker 10 Yeah, I believe there's a few game threes.

Speaker 1 One at Omaha. Love it.
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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very good friend of the program, very special guest, Emmy award winner, Greg Olson, who has TEU coming up in a couple weeks.

Speaker 1 Let's start with the, I want to talk about tight end university because we're year, whatever, five? Four. Four.
All right, we're year four. It's been incredible.
We were there last year.

Speaker 1 But first, we got to talk about this Emmy. You won an Emmy.
Did you ever think you'd win an Emmy?

Speaker 15 You know,

Speaker 15 I didn't. And, you know, I actually, humble brag.
amongst friends, obviously just between just the three of us and the 20 million people that watch this.

Speaker 15 I've actually won two now.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 15 yeah. So no big deal.
But yeah, so I didn't go to the ceremony last year. And so I always told myself, I'm like, you know, if I ever get nominated again, I'm going to go.

Speaker 15 Last year was for like breakout, you know, breakout artists, you know, like the equivalent of like, we, no one knew who you were. And now we kind of know who you are.

Speaker 15 So we're going to make that in any category.

Speaker 15 So it wasn't like a, it wasn't amongst with all the big boys, but this year I was nominated with all the big ones, you know, Aikman and Collinsworth and guys that have been obviously doing this at a high level for a long time.

Speaker 15 So my wife and I went to New York and went to the event, had really low expectations about whether or not we were going to win or not, and

Speaker 15 was able to pull one away. It's incredible.
And I had this really cool TEU background. My Emmys are actually behind me.
No big deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's incredible. They gave an Emmy for worst sport coat in a broadcast.
And like, that's, I do. Oh, my God.
I knew you could win. Oh, my God.
What? Hold on. Yeah, put it on.
Go get it.

Speaker 15 Hold on. No, no, no.
Hold on. Even better.
Oh, I literally almost called you from the Emmys.

Speaker 15 So, you know, like they call the person who wins, and then there's like a little highlight reel and you show like a clip and a picture.

Speaker 15 When they showed all of the nominees, guess what still photo they used of me in the booth?

Speaker 1 Yep, that's incredible. Worst coat ever.

Speaker 15 Wow. I was wearing the sport coat.
I literally laughed out loud.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 15 the host is like, you know, Troy Aikman, there's like a picture of him next to Joe Buck, Greg Olson. And when they shot to me on the camera, the picture was me in that sport coat.

Speaker 1 Wow, that might be why you won. You left a lasting image with the voting.

Speaker 7 I feel like the voters have like a disconnect with mainstream America.

Speaker 15 Or am I a trendsetter?

Speaker 1 No, I would not say trendsetter.

Speaker 7 How many ounces have you seen wearing that type of jacket since you wore it?

Speaker 15 How many of those people have Emmys?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 I think a lot of them probably do. Yeah.
I think they kind of give Emmys to just about anybody, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Have you ever won an emmy we have some fake ones there we bought them on amazon for like five bucks got it so they look pretty cool understood yeah yeah we were technically on tv long enough to get an emmy shortest show ever yeah we we should have worn for for yeah best one episode run yeah it was a great episode though it was it was pretty solid but congratulations emmy award winning i appreciate it

Speaker 15 i actually thought of you guys you were in my heart that day at the award show because i knew when that when that sport code came on what was your speech like did you give an acceptance speech? I did.

Speaker 15 So I actually during the day that day,

Speaker 15 you know, you do the whole like, I didn't expect to win, but then everybody has an acceptance speech, which means you're at least prepared for the fact that you were going to win.

Speaker 15 So I actually did write something in the notes of my phone, but so like there's no podium on the stage. So there's just like a stick mic, like on a big stand.
But so you get up.

Speaker 15 And you walk up on stage, you shake the guy's hand. He hands you the trophy.
He hands you the envelope.

Speaker 15 So I have that in one hand, and then I have my cell phone because I typed my like people I want to make sure I mention in my notes.

Speaker 15 So I'm holding my phone in one hand, my left hand's like full of envelopes and trophy and just stuff, but there's nowhere to set anything down because there's no podium.

Speaker 15 My phone turns off, like the screen goes black. So I'm like up there trying to do like face recognition, you know, to open my screen.
So it was a complete disaster. So I just made it up on the fly.

Speaker 15 Everything that I had typed on my phone in the notes,

Speaker 15 I didn't get to because I couldn't get my phone to unlock in real, you know, I panicked a little bit on stage.

Speaker 1 They should have taken your Emmy away right there. Yeah, they weren't prepared for the moment.

Speaker 7 Also, there should be a category for best accidental telestrator penis drawn during a game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Have you ever done that?

Speaker 15 It's my biggest, it's my biggest fear.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Booger used to, I think he was the goat at that. Booger drew some excellent songs.

Speaker 15 That was a, I think some guys do it on purpose.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. For sure.

Speaker 7 Yeah, RG3, I could see him.

Speaker 1 Yes, he absolutely does it. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Oh, RG3. Yeah.
But you know what? Like, it always starts when you go like all 22 and everybody wants to show the two high safeties.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 15 The second you start by circling safety, if you do any, you have to clear that screen before anything else gets written. That's like, that is rule number one of Telestrator.
If you circle two objects,

Speaker 15 the next button is clear because it doesn't matter if you draw a straight line, a squiggly line. It looks like a dick.
We'll find it.

Speaker 1 It's like a Rorschach.

Speaker 15 100% of the time, it looks like a dick.

Speaker 7 That was a big month for you. You had two two great television events.
One was the Emmys, and then the second was The Roast of Tom Brady, which must have been very fun for you to watch.

Speaker 15 I was a little jealous I didn't get invited.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You should have gotten invited.

Speaker 1 You and Drew Bledsoe could have had a really good talk.

Speaker 15 Me and Bledsoe. Yeah, exactly.
Me and Bledsoe could have had like a little moment there. Like, you know, we understand what it's like to lose our jobs.

Speaker 15 So I felt like we could have both kind of bonded over a glass of red wine and that. But I'll tell you, I didn't want to sit there.

Speaker 15 It's one thing for Brady to get paid a couple million bucks to get made fun. That was all in fun, but I thought everybody else on that stage was just like catching strays from all over town.

Speaker 15 Going in, I was like, man, that would have been cool. And then I was like, I'm thankful that I'm not up there.
Who knows what they would have said about me? I would have started crying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 Got to have thick skin.

Speaker 1 I think, though, and obviously, you know,

Speaker 1 you wish that you were still on the number one broadcast.

Speaker 1 You said it. It's like you're human.
You're a competitive guy.

Speaker 1 I think you're in a great spot, though, Greg, because you proved it that you're so good at it for a couple of years there, did a Super Bowl, that you now get in that spot where everyone's like, it's like the backup quarterback.

Speaker 1 Like everyone's like, ooh, we want him.

Speaker 2 We want him.

Speaker 1 And you know it in Chicago, especially backup quarterbacks, always the most popular guy.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 1 you're the people's champ is basically what I'm saying.

Speaker 15 Yeah, well, I appreciate that. And no, people have been super cool and the support has been great.
And listen, I've said it a million times. I haven't shied away from it.

Speaker 15 I understand why you go out and get Tom Brady, right? If there's anybody in the world that you understand the why, it doesn't mean like you love it. It doesn't mean you're not like disappointed,

Speaker 15 but you get it, right? It would take a very self-unaware person to be like, why am I being replaced for Tom Brady?

Speaker 15 People would be like, are you joking? Like, is that a serious question? So in one regard, like, I get, I get the why. I get why it's enticing.

Speaker 15 So I understand the business model and everything going on. For me personally, like, I want to get back to call number one games.
I want to get back to calling playoff games in front of 60 million.

Speaker 15 I want to call Super Bowls of 100 plus million. I want to call the only game on town at 425.
That's the national kickoff with, you know, 95% of the country, you know, have that as their window.

Speaker 15 So like, I want to, I love those games. I love those marquee games.

Speaker 15 So we'll see how it all shakes out. You know, there's not many of these jobs.
There's not a lot of seats that call playoff games. There's not a lot of seats that call Super Bowls.
There's only four.

Speaker 15 So, you know, that's the other issue, you know, with this line of work is, you know, a little patience is a a big element to it because you can be as good as you want, people can like you, people could want you, but until a seat opens,

Speaker 15 you know, it's kind of out of your control.

Speaker 1 Great answer, people's champ. That's good.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we love you. And we said at the time when you called the Super Bowl, you gave Fox something to think about.
Yeah, Tom Brady is Tom Brady, but at the end of the day, you've proven you can do it.

Speaker 7 And they at least had to have a conversation where it's like, I know we have Tom Brady, like literally Tom Brady, but Greg's really fucking good. Yeah, and he's attractive.
And he's

Speaker 1 all natural.

Speaker 7 Yeah, all natural.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're all natural.

Speaker 7 Are you all natural?

Speaker 15 All natural. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's all natural.

Speaker 15 Um, hair is real.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Body's real. I got to shave.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Um,

Speaker 15 yeah, this is just pizza, hot dogs, a couple beers, um,

Speaker 15 a couple youth baseball and football practices during the day to get my sweat in. And

Speaker 15 what you see is what you get. Yeah, man of the people.

Speaker 7 Tom Brady never did a rap song. Greg has.
True. You just relate to all demographics, Greg.

Speaker 1 Have you thought about that? How much money, NIL money you would have made in college? It had to have been, it would have been insane, right?

Speaker 15 Dude, I think I said, so my wife and I went to college together and, you know, she was my girlfriend for three of the four years that I was there and obviously saw everything.

Speaker 15 So I was like, could you imagine? Like when I would get my scholarship check in college, I would get like $1,200 a month.

Speaker 15 I lived in Miami and your rent, when you moved off campus, you know, to rent with four other dudes or three other guys, you know, you're probably paying between $500 and $600 a month, you know, $1,500, $1,800 a month rent for a decent house there by campus.

Speaker 15 It was not cheap. And, you know, $500, $600 would go to that.
And then another $100 in utility. So you had like $500 left over, $400, $500 left over.

Speaker 15 First week of college, first week of that month, man, we're eating that, you know, in our world, you're going for sushi, you're getting nice restaurants.

Speaker 15 By the end, you're at like the dollar menu at Wendy's, right? So I told her, I said, could you imagine if at any moment in college, someone gave me $50,000? Right.

Speaker 15 And some of these guys are making hundreds of thousands to a million. I'm just talking: if you gave me 50 grand, 20 grand in college, I would have been the richest.

Speaker 15 Like in my mind, I don't even know how I would have handled having that in my bank account. I'd have $1,200 in my bank account, and I thought I was the richest guy on campus.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it's true.

Speaker 7 I personally could relate to that and say I would spend money on the dumbest things possible.

Speaker 1 Gave me 50 grand a good job. Yeah, 50,000 when you're like 20 years old old in college, you're basically a billionaire.

Speaker 7 I would get like seven jet skis.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Oh, and then, and now remember, you're in Miami.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 I mean, you could go to clubs, you can go to bars. You, you know, you guys are driving.
I remember the stupidest thing I ever bought in college. So good.

Speaker 15 A buddy of mine, I don't know where it originally came from, but he bought from someone else. Like, remember when people would change out their like face, the screens of their radio?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. You would change

Speaker 15 the faceplate of like the stock radio of the car.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you'd pick it up.

Speaker 15 Pick it up, like the next thing was, then the next phase was they would come out and flip up, and it was like an external screen. You know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you, and you would, you would, you would take the screen with you or put it in your glove compartment because people would steal it. You would have to, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 15 Like a fate, yeah, exactly right. So, so this guy got when one of the guys on the team got one, he's like, hey, you want to buy this? I'm feeling good.
It's summer.

Speaker 15 I probably got a scholarship check like the day before. I'm like, yeah, I need that in my truck.

Speaker 15 It's like 400 bucks out the window because this guy sells me like this portable, doesn't do anything other than just look sweet popping out of your dashboard. But if you gave me 50 grand,

Speaker 15 the equivalence to that stupid $400 purchase, I can't even imagine what I would have bought.

Speaker 1 Neon lighting under the car, the black lights, subwoofers. That was big.

Speaker 15 That was big. Oh, I had a subwoofer in college.
I mean, in high school, I had a subwoofer. So that was, I thought I was cool.
Yeah. But we all kind of went through that.
That was like our era.

Speaker 15 That was like our generation where you spent all your money on like fun things on your car that were, you look back on and were like, that was really stupid.

Speaker 1 I remember one of my car when I was like, might have been right out of college had six CD changers.

Speaker 9 So six CDs you could hold.

Speaker 1 And I was like, this is fucking like, I can listen to anything. They'll never be able to say anything.
Six different CDs I can go to.

Speaker 15 Oh, and you put them in your visor. You can put them in your visor storage unit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, dude. That That rocked.

Speaker 7 I got spinners for my minivan at one point, spinning hubcaps. I felt like an absolute gangster.
But yeah.

Speaker 15 So just think, you had 50 grand in college. How nice your spinners would have been.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 They would have been incredible. Insane.
Yeah. So tight end university, very excited for what you guys have played this year.

Speaker 7 Will there be a class that somebody teaches on how to date the most famous woman in the world?

Speaker 15 Yeah, so it's a really good question. So we actually had that presentation last year, and

Speaker 15 Travis was paying the most attention and uh and seemed to have really taken that class to heart but draft's coming back i'm looking forward to seeing him making sure he hasn't changed um you guys saw it firsthand it's a it's a super cool event the fact that it just started from me and kittle kind of texting and bullshitting after i retired back in 2021 and coming down saying you know come down and work out with some of the guys and then it turned into 20 guys 30 guys and next thing you knew we had a full-on event that you know we now had we had over 80 85 guys last year.

Speaker 15 And, you know, obviously we, we pay for everything. You know, we have unbelievable sponsors that allow, if you couldn't see all my plugs behind me for any of you actually watching this,

Speaker 15 you know, obviously Charmin's our presenting sponsor because they love tight ends. You guys understand that.
Oh,

Speaker 15 you see how that works? Yeah. You see how that works? Yeah.

Speaker 15 So Charmin, Bridgestone, we're doing a really cool like girls football camp, like a little flag football camp with Bridgestone and Levi's and Bud Light.

Speaker 15 So they give us all the core, all the sponsorship money allows us to bring all the guys in, put them up.

Speaker 15 You know, we do everything first class from how we feed them to we bring in physical therapists and

Speaker 15 different PTs and chiropractors and do different kind of medical

Speaker 15 different things and food parties. We have a concert this year that we're doing Tuesday night, which will be super cool.

Speaker 15 We have some really fun guests that we're excited to kind of keep a secret until the night of. So it's going to be.

Speaker 15 As you guys know, it's three days of a lot of fun. We get our work done during the day and, you know, in the morning and during the day.

Speaker 15 And then at night, night, Nashville is not a bad place for 80 tight ends to let it loose a little bit and have a little fun. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Is there a guy that showed up last year that took something that he learned at TEU and then went on and had a breakout career or a breakout year afterwards?

Speaker 15 You know, so I think it's been cool. Like we, we typically always have like the young crop of incoming rookies.
So two years ago was Kyle Pitts and last year, you know, Laporta and Dalton Kincaid,

Speaker 15 who were, you know, they were about to be rookies. They were between draft and their rookie season.
So over the last two years, we've had those guys.

Speaker 15 You know, we'd love, you know, I got to actually go back and check. I'm not sure if Bowers,

Speaker 15 we'd love him to come. I have to check on the list and see if he said he's coming or not.
But it's really cool to see those young guys.

Speaker 15 And then, you know, in front of them, a couple, you know, right in their same line, when, you know, guys demonstrating the drill or running the route before them is Travis Kelsey and Darren Waller and.

Speaker 15 you know, George Kittle. And they're in a full sweat and they're going full speed 100 miles an hour.
And then here are these guys saying, you know, one day I want want to be them.

Speaker 15 I want to beat Kittle. I want to beat Kelsey.
I want to date Taylor Swift. Well, you better run full speed.
You better practice. You better have the intensity when no coaches are out here.

Speaker 15 You're not being judged. You're just trying to get better.

Speaker 15 Like for those young guys to see how hard these veterans, these all pros, these guys that everyone just thinks, oh, they've always been the best just because they are, they don't realize how much goes into it.

Speaker 15 And I think it's very eye-opening for the young guys to just see how much time and thought and effort is put in to why these guys are having Pro Bowl and in some cases, you know, Hall of Fame type years.

Speaker 1 Careers. If Brock Bowers does come,

Speaker 1 you got to give him a little tip to just never stand next to Gronk again.

Speaker 2 Because Brock Bowers is an incredible tight end.

Speaker 1 He does not give off the same aura as

Speaker 1 Gronk in terms of just maybe it's the way it was when he was wearing those black shoes. He might need to do something with the hair.

Speaker 7 He cut that short. It was also a lot of us in the media, we started talking about Brock Bowers like he was baby Gronk.
Yeah. And then when he's saying next to Gronk, he does look like baby Gronk.

Speaker 2 No one should stand next to Gronk. That should just be a tip at tight end you.

Speaker 1 Just don't ever stand, don't ever get a picture next to Gronk because people will be like, oh, this guy can't play tight end.

Speaker 15 Yeah, Gronk. Yeah.
If you think every tight end out there looks like Gronk and is 6'7, 265 and threaded and lean,

Speaker 15 that's not the reality. I can tell you that firsthand, coming from a guy who played 14 years and did not look like Gronk.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Yeah, you can't wear black cleats.

Speaker 15 That we should actually, that's a really good idea. Along with date the most famous person, we should do a what, like how to dress to look faster than you are.
White, like tall white guys

Speaker 15 cannot wear black cleats, in my opinion, unless you're just like an absolute freak.

Speaker 1 Yeah, agree.

Speaker 15 Black shoes with high white socks make you look slow. That's like, that's like one-on-one.
So white cleats. light color cleats always make you look faster than you are.

Speaker 15 And for a lot of these 6'5 tight ends, that is good. That's really good advice.

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Speaker 1 So not to get like nerdy football, but I'm sure you've thought about this and I'm wondering if you maybe are going to bring it up at tight end you, but the banning of the hip drop tackle.

Speaker 1 I actually think that will help tight ends more than any other position because the basis of the hip drop tackle is when you have a guy who's way bigger than you and you're trying to slow his momentum down and bring him down like undersized cornerbacks safeties trying to take a tight end down in space do you agree that tight ends should benefit from no more hip drop tap tackles where it's just that much harder to bring these weird freaks where they're too much bigger than a lot of the secondary and they're you know they can take a linebacker do you think that's going to help tight ends yeah i mean i can't tell you the amount of guys i've seen blow out their ankles their knees knees, break their legs on the hit drop.

Speaker 15 And, you know, selfishly, when we were playing, you know, if it wasn't a rule, you know, it's like when they changed the rule that you couldn't hit defenseless receivers.

Speaker 15 When I came in the league, you could. And you better be in a real good place with your quarterback and you better be really aware of where everybody is.

Speaker 15 And you got to be real smart or else you're going to run yourself in the ball or the ball is going to be thrown and get you in a lot of danger. When that got taken off the table,

Speaker 15 your fears go down. You're a little bit more free.
You're a little bit more willing.

Speaker 15 It's easier because you don't have that in the back of your head, like, hey, I got to protect myself because you know this guy, he can kill you, but at least there's going to be a punishment to prevent him from killing you a second time.

Speaker 15 The same thing now with the hip drop tackle.

Speaker 15 But on the other side of that, now that I'm out of the game and I'm just like looking at it from both sides, I'm not exactly sure how they expect some of these guys to tackle.

Speaker 15 You know, I think you're going to have a lot of guys going low. I think you're going to have a lot of guys taking shots to the knees and the legs to try to kind of knife you down.

Speaker 15 You're not going to tackle Gronk and Kittle and these guys up at their shoulder pads. You're just not.
It's just

Speaker 15 physics are what they are. You know, you're, you're 205 and they're 265.
It's just, it's not going to happen.

Speaker 15 So, yeah, I think these defenders, every year that these rules get put into place, it becomes harder to play defense. And I'm an offensive guy.
I get that.

Speaker 15 I don't envy the position that they're in, but I do understand the idea is you don't want George Kittle and Christian McCaffrey and, you know, Gronk in his day.

Speaker 15 Like you don't want those guys getting knocked out of the game for those kind of tackles and putting them in harm's way. You want these guys on the field playing.

Speaker 15 The league is better when our stars are healthy. So I get the rules,

Speaker 15 the method behind them and the idea behind them. I understand.
But I don't envy defensive players. I think it is becoming more and more difficult every year to play defense.

Speaker 15 But that's the rules of the game. It's an offensive driven league.
They want points. They want scoring.
They want passing. And they want their best players to be healthy.
They don't want injuries.

Speaker 15 They don't want to be the league where by the end of the year, it looks like an infirmary. That's not good for anyone.
So I also think that this is

Speaker 7 the hip drop tackle is a rule where the offense actually has a say in how they get hit. So they could bait themselves into getting hip-drop tackled.

Speaker 7 If you see a guy coming towards you, just turn around and twerk real quick. Just stick that ass out.
And then get that as the target. And then boom, next thing you know, 15 yards easily.

Speaker 7 It's going to be be very, very challenging to officiate it, I think, and to determine whether or not it was intent for them to hit from the back and then drop down.

Speaker 7 I feel like this is going to be a rule that we're going to get very angry about in about three weeks of actual gameplay. Yes.

Speaker 15 And the twerking part

Speaker 15 is an interesting angle, but I think what's inevitable is at some point, there's going to be a critical drive that on third down, They throw a dragger out underneath short of the first down, and some DB or linebacker is going to grab him from behind.

Speaker 15 He's going to hip, drop, tackle him. He's just going to say, I got to get him on the ground.
And they're going to celebrate. And all of a sudden, the flag is going to come in.

Speaker 15 It's going to be a personal foul. And the drive is going to be extended.
And they're going to go down to score and win the game.

Speaker 15 I mean, it's going to happen at some point that it's going to be a game altering.

Speaker 15 No different than how many drives have we seen in critical moments, past fall incomplete, and then that late flag come and it's a hit to the head.

Speaker 15 defenseless receiver, automatic personal foul, first down, and the drive continues. So it's going to happen.

Speaker 15 It's going to be controversy on Monday morning that a game is going to be viewed as being decided by

Speaker 15 is the right, is it the right call? Is it the wrong call? And then the next level is, is it the right rule or is it the wrong rule? There's like two, there's two levels to it.

Speaker 15 The interpretation of whether it's a foul or not is one. And then just on a bigger level, should this have even been a foul to begin with?

Speaker 15 Or should we just say, hey, get them on the ground however you can? This is big boy football. You know, I can make an argument both ways.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Yeah.
It's going to give fans an additional like three seconds after every play to be like, wait, wait, wait. Maybe there's a flag.
Maybe there's a flag.

Speaker 7 That like moment of hope when you get bailed out by something.

Speaker 7 One thing that you guys do a great job of, you kind of undersell at TEU, is you have great quarterbacks that come to throw balls and just hang out.

Speaker 7 So last year, I think there was, I know Josh was there. He was throwing some balls.
Sam Darnold. I forget who else was there.
Who's on your list of quarterbacks?

Speaker 15 Trey Lance. Trey Lance was there.

Speaker 15 Zach Wilson was there. You said Josh, Sam.

Speaker 15 Yes, we've had some good quarterbacks over the years. I think a lot of those guys are coming back this year.

Speaker 15 And what I think is cool for, especially the young tight ends, and you see it with a guy like Kittle and Kelsey and some of these guys and Gronk with Brady in their day, like the rapport and understanding that it's not what we want to do, right?

Speaker 15 We're the end of the equation, right? We want to get the ball thrown to us. And how do you do that?

Speaker 15 You got to be, you know, the quarterback's got to be on the same page and, you know, all those cliches that we all hear. So it's cool.

Speaker 15 We would let, say, Josh Allen, josh tell them what you're looking for what's good body language what's good indicators like what is a friendly target in and out of the break look like and say hey the reason kelsey gets a million balls thrown is because mahomes knows exactly what he's going to do he knows what every little head nod every little mannerism he knows what he's seeing and they're seeing the game through the same set of eyes like i think for these young guys It's not about what you want to run.

Speaker 15 It's not how you see the defense. You need to see it through the eyes of the quarterback.
That's your responsibility. So let's hear what the quarterbacks have to say.
Like, let's listen.

Speaker 15 When Josh Allen's telling you, this is what I'm looking for, you better listen. Like this guy, this guy knows what he's doing.
So I think that's not just an arm to throw the ball.

Speaker 15 You know, we can get anybody to do that. I think the perspective of a lot of these quarterbacks to share.
with tight ends, like how the quarterback sees the game is all that matters.

Speaker 15 It's our job to match how we see it with them.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I want to give you credit, by the way. You went on Pat Bev and Roan's show, and you said that the transition from sports to media is harder than people think.

Speaker 1 So I'm just going to, I read that, and all I took from it is it's really hard to be in the media and do the job that we do. So thank you for that.
Right. Yeah.
You're welcome. Yeah.
Harder than

Speaker 1 harder than being an athlete.

Speaker 15 I think it's different, right?

Speaker 15 I think any, and listen, you guys obviously do it at the, and I'm not just telling you this to. kiss your ass.
You guys know, obviously, you're really good and

Speaker 15 the most popular thing out there. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Kiss my ass. Yeah.
Kiss my ass. Kiss my ass.
No.

Speaker 1 Listen, I already wiped with Charmin, so you're good to go.

Speaker 15 Well done. Nice.
Well done. The Charmin folks are going to be thrilled.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 15 Very well done. You're a professional.

Speaker 15 No,

Speaker 15 I think the part that people don't realize, right?

Speaker 15 I mean, we were talking about it from the perspective of like, hey, you hang your cleats up, your shoes up, you're done playing, and everyone just assumes.

Speaker 15 All right, the most realistic thing is you either become a coach or you just all of a sudden get a microphone and you go tell everybody about what's happening.

Speaker 15 But on a global level, the media world, like it's very hard in today's world, I mean, you guys do it on a daily basis to break through what's a very complicated media landscape, especially in the world of sports, right?

Speaker 15 Like what makes what you guys say any more interesting than the other 10,000 sports pods or just, you know, current events or just fun guys on the internet? They're a dime a dozen, right? So it's...

Speaker 15 It's finding your alley. It's finding your voice.
It's finding a way to cut through all of the noise that's out there.

Speaker 15 And people go, of all the people I can choose with my time, of all the people that I can listen to, of all the podcasts I can listen to on the train into New York City or in my commute in Chicago or whatever, I get an hour of my morning.

Speaker 15 I could pick from a million different places. I'm going to pick PMT or I'm going to pick Bev or whatever it is.

Speaker 15 Like to find that lane and to be the people, to be the voice and the person that people look to and seek out. I'm curious what you think.
Like,

Speaker 15 I think people think that that's everybody. And the reality is, it's not.
There's a lot of really smart people that have interesting things to say.

Speaker 15 And it's hard to find that voice to cut through in today's world where you can get information at every corner and most of it's bad.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 1 you're absolutely right. Like the competition is there.
It's higher than it's ever been. And the fact that there are so many options out there.

Speaker 1 That is also where I always come back to, and I hate when people, successful people, just completely minimize what luck luck had to do with their success.

Speaker 1 Because I think what you just described and maybe our success is a lot of luck. We got very lucky.

Speaker 7 The right time.

Speaker 1 At the time when podcasting wasn't as big, when it was, there was that niche of like, where can we find a podcast that doesn't take sports too seriously?

Speaker 1 If you tried to replicate it today, it'd be a lot harder. So

Speaker 1 I always take a step back. And yeah, people are like, oh, you're really talented.
We got very lucky.

Speaker 7 We got very, very lucky. It's a combo of luck and pissing your pants and eating horse shit on camera.
Yeah. I think if you can get those three together in one place, that hits all the bases.

Speaker 15 Yeah. And remember, and again, not to get like super cliche and like hang a bunch of banners in the weight room with fun sayings, but like there is an element that, yeah, luck 100%.

Speaker 15 A lot of life is being right place, right time and having right situations unfold. But like.
Certain people tend to be lucky because they're constantly prepared.

Speaker 15 They're constantly ready for that moment. Then all of a sudden that right moment does flip and it clicks, right?

Speaker 15 But how many people aren't prepared for those moments, haven't put the work in, haven't studied the craft, haven't built their voice or whatever the industry is.

Speaker 15 And that moment came, but they never even knew it. And it came and it went and it was just, it was just poof.
It was gone in thin air. So yeah, there's, you got to have people believe in you.

Speaker 15 You got to have people that give you opportunities. I mean, that was the case with me.

Speaker 15 I mean, it was 2017 and Fox was kind enough to ask me to call a three-man booth with Kevin Burkhart and Charles Davis.

Speaker 15 And oh yeah, Kevin Burkhart and i knew each other since i was 15 years old because he used to cover my high school football games as like a young aspiring journalist because he went to college in my hometown and he worked for like the local am radio station that did friday night high school football so yeah i was very comfortable stepping into a live broadcast for the first time with a guy that i had known for 10 years and knew him since i was a young kid in high school yeah that that was very lucky.

Speaker 15 It could have been anybody under the world. And maybe we don't have that rapport.

Speaker 15 Maybe it doesn't get a click that I get asked to come back and do it in 2019 again and then obviously go on to do it in my career. So yeah, you're right.

Speaker 15 I mean, there's a lot of elements to all this that are outside of our control. All we can do is be good.
Success is successful. And that's what I always say all the time.

Speaker 1 Just be good. Yeah.
Yeah. Be good.
Yeah. And also show up every day.
That was one thing we learned very quickly is that if you, the consistency of delivering something to people is half the battle.

Speaker 1 Because if you, if, if a lot of people want to start a podcast and then you don't do it, you, you update it, you know, once a week for a month, and then the next month comes, oh, I missed an episode.

Speaker 1 Okay, that, that, I have in my mind, every time we don't really, I mean, we, we don't miss episodes, but even on like Memorial Day, we did two episodes that week instead of three.

Speaker 1 It's sick. It's absolutely sick in my head.
But I'm thinking we might have lost a couple listeners because there was a Wednesday where we weren't there. That's sick.

Speaker 1 I need to, I need to go to therapy. It has to feel that way.
Yeah, but I need to go to therapy.

Speaker 15 Remember,

Speaker 15 there's a lot of overlap between this.

Speaker 15 Success in any industry. Again, this is just one guy's opinion.

Speaker 15 I'm not the smartest guy in the room, but success in any industry. There is an element that your greatest asset to being successful also is a greatest detriment in your normal life, right?

Speaker 15 The obsessive nature of excelling and the obsessive nature is I can't take a pot off. Yes, I'm number one.
I've been the most watched sports podcast for five years.

Speaker 15 You don't have to do any on Memorial Day, but the fear that you're living in a constant threat of, I don't want to be three.

Speaker 15 And the next year we miss and we go to five is no different than what great players go through.

Speaker 15 You worry every single year. You're on your, you've just made your third, fourth Pro Bowl.
You've just signed your third contract extension.

Speaker 15 And the next morning, you're like, I wonder if they're going to draft a tight end.

Speaker 15 If they draft a tight end, I'm going to fucking kill them. I'm going to be at OTAs and I'm going to kill.
Like,

Speaker 15 that's what it takes. And

Speaker 15 know that's not like a secret formula just very few people are willing to live their lives like that every single day because as you said it's sick it's exhausting it takes a toll on your life but guess what it's a really good formula for being successful yeah also I just miss talking sports with the boys yeah if we don't have a show for a week if we take our vacation in the summertime stuff happens in sports I'm like damn I really wish I was here to make fun of Hank for that yeah you know yeah yeah maybe we're a little bit sick but that's fine oh I know sports with the boys is the best man that's what it's all about it Yeah, that's a great quote card.

Speaker 7 It really is. So you also touched on the NFL-NBA debate that's engrossing America.

Speaker 7 So let me ask you, do you think it's easier for NFL analysts to transition to the NBA announcing or for NBA analysts to transition to the NFL?

Speaker 1 Good question. That's a really

Speaker 1 good question. Thank you.
Really good question. That might be

Speaker 15 the best question. That might be the best question I've ever been asked.

Speaker 1 Ever been asked? Holy shit. Ever been asked?

Speaker 7 Put in the trophy case.

Speaker 15 The ass kissing.

Speaker 15 Oh, God, the internet is going to go bananas.

Speaker 1 All right, so bananas.

Speaker 15 All right, here's my honest answer. And the football people were not happy with my when I was on with Bev and Roan, and I said, like, maybe not 30.

Speaker 15 Austin Rivers might have been out over skis a little bit with 30, but for football people to not think that there's,

Speaker 15 I think the number we said there was like 10 seems realistic. We could probably come up with 10 names that could play in the NFL just on just their athletic freaking freakism.

Speaker 15 I think an NFL broadcaster could broadcast an NBA game with more understanding and clarity than vice versa.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 I'd agree. Offenses are too complicated, defenses too complicated in the NFL.

Speaker 15 You know, because you got, because remember, like in football, every play is an individual story, right? It's not just like a constant evolve where.

Speaker 15 when again this is my lame in basketball understanding when i'm watching you know when jj reddix who i think is awesome when he's broadcasting the game and I'm like genuinely listening to what he's saying, because I think it's fun to learn and whatnot, he's not, or the play-by-play guy is not saying like, hey, down screen, flare screen, then they run an Iverson cut and then they're going to backdoor pick and roll high, low screen.

Speaker 15 They're not really giving like the play by play exactly because it's happening so fast, right?

Speaker 15 They're, they're flowing from offense to defense, from transition to foul, inbounds, baseline out of bounds.

Speaker 15 They're, they're flowing through so many different situations in real time that they're only diving into like the real, real specifics of a great baseline out of bounds or a great side out of bounds or the strategy at the end of the game of who to foul, who to trap, how to get the ball out of their hand, really in just like a handful of those moments.

Speaker 15 And I find that super fascinating to like sit and learn as just like a basketball fan. In football, it's a start and stop, you know, 150 times.
You know, 104, each team says the ball 70 times.

Speaker 15 There's 70 offensive plays, 70 defensive plays, and then flips.

Speaker 15 So there's just a million different plays that you have to be prepared to explain what the offensive line is doing, why they're sorting pass protection, why the receiver cut his route off, what's the difference between a two shell and a single high shell, man leverage, zone.

Speaker 15 Like, I just think there's more need and space to fill in more like football lingo and talk than there is maybe in a.

Speaker 15 ever you know a constant flowing basketball game that you could kind of fake it a little bit more maybe i'm crazy and maybe the basketball guys are going to think I'm nuts, but that's if I found myself in a basketball game,

Speaker 15 I think that would be my approach.

Speaker 7 I think you'd be better than Reggie Miller.

Speaker 1 I think the other part to this is that a lot of football players did play basketball. Not all basketball players played football.
Whereas I think there's more of a crossover in that.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm way off.

Speaker 15 No, and I think people are just more familiar with the sport of basketball because,

Speaker 15 you know, you go to any local, and again, I'm not saying what's going on at the YMA. Let me just be very clear here before the NBA people jump over my head here.

Speaker 15 I'm not suggesting that what's going on with the men's over 40 league at the YMCA in downtown Chicago is NBA basketball. I'm not.
I'm just suggesting the fact that it's like golf, right?

Speaker 15 Like it doesn't mean we could do it.

Speaker 15 It doesn't mean we're good at it, but people are more comfortable with playing golf in a tradition, in just like a casual sense of exercise and fellowship and social than they are in like a competitive nature.

Speaker 15 If you're not playing competitive tackle football, you're not playing football. Like you're not doing it on the weekends.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 15 People are just more accustomed to basketball and they're playing it.

Speaker 15 It's just,

Speaker 1 I just think the sports is just more accessible.

Speaker 15 People are just more familiar with the ins and outs of it because more people do it than they do play tackle football.

Speaker 7 I'm going to push back real quick. A lot of people play Madden.
Oh. A lot of people play Madden

Speaker 7 and they understand

Speaker 7 timeouts. They They understand, you know, whether you're running cover two, cover three.

Speaker 7 I feel like more people play Madden.

Speaker 15 I think that's a good counter.

Speaker 15 I think that's a legitimate, I think you're right. I think the knowledge, especially of young people around football, has grown because of how popular and how great Madden is.

Speaker 15 That's fair.

Speaker 15 I would love to know how many basketball guys, like when I'd be very curious to know, like, do basketball guys play Madden or are they playing like 2K?

Speaker 1 I think Madden.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think they play Madden.

Speaker 1 I think NBA Jam was the last great basketball game. So that's so.

Speaker 1 So if you had a basketball guy, what?

Speaker 5 Max is very, very, very popular.

Speaker 1 2K is very popular, Max said.

Speaker 15 My kids, my kids, like in my house,

Speaker 15 obviously Madden is a big deal. Like Madden, our kids get it every year.
Who's on the cover? Blah, blah, blah, whatever. It's a big deal.

Speaker 15 We're a football, like for our whole lives, Madden was the thing. In my house, there is a ton of 2K tournaments when my kids' friends come over.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we definitely dated ourselves with NBA Jam. Damn it.
That video game.

Speaker 1 We'll cut that one.

Speaker 7 That was popular in like 1996.

Speaker 1 We'll cut that.

Speaker 7 It was a good video game, though. Speaking of Madden.

Speaker 15 How iconic was it when you could get like those secret NBA Jam players into the game?

Speaker 7 You unlock them. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Speaking of Madden, do you ever go back and watch John Madden highlights like the best of his announcing? And do you take anything from how he would call a football game?

Speaker 15 I never have. I mean, I've obviously seen a million highlights and watched that great documentary they did a couple years ago

Speaker 15 on him and Madden, which was ironic that it was shortly right before he passed.

Speaker 15 He called, he actually called my first ever touchdown when I was in Chicago. We played up in Green Bay on Sunday night football.

Speaker 15 And I caught my first career touchdown pass and he was the Sunday night football announcer. And so I've heard that call over.
I mean, I've heard his calls. I grew up with his voice.

Speaker 15 I mean, Madden, I think Madden 94 is the all-time greatest video game ever made.

Speaker 7 It's a good one.

Speaker 15 That was the Madden game. I don't even know if I got 95 and 96.
Like it was Madden 94 and NHL 94. Like those were the two games that we wore out growing up.

Speaker 15 But his voice, video games, calling my games, just watching games in my life. I've heard a million of his calls.
I've never really gone back and studied anybody.

Speaker 15 I don't really like it. I watch games now.

Speaker 15 you know the Thursday night games and the Sunday night games when I'm home Monday night football when I'm home I watch and listen to other announcers, and you know, you pick up little things about how they come in and out of breaks and how they use the telly and just different comments that you make.

Speaker 15 You go, Okay, yeah, that was really smart. Or I don't know if I would have said that.
Like, you're no different than when I was playing, I'd only watch the tight end. Um,

Speaker 15 but I think you have to be careful going back and trying to like recreate the magic of a guy like John Madden because I just don't know if anybody can.

Speaker 15 And I think you put yourself in a position where you end up sounding stupid.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it's true. He is a legend, legends, legend.

Speaker 7 When he would just say, like, boom, or bam, yeah, Sometimes something that simple just gets a point across. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So,

Speaker 1 Greg, I had one last question.

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Speaker 1 Last question,

Speaker 1 and a little personal question, but how's TJ doing, your son?

Speaker 15 Oh, he's doing awesome. He actually, yesterday, or actually, today's the sixth, two days ago, Tuesday,

Speaker 15 he celebrated his three-year heart anniversary of his transplant. Incredible.
So, super, so good timing on the question. And

Speaker 15 he's doing awesome, man. It's hard to believe he's been three years.
So, he was eight when he had his heart transplant. And he's 11.
He'll be 12 in the fall. So, that's awesome.
He's doing awesome.

Speaker 15 He's playing summer baseball and getting big and strong and running around. Yeah, he's.

Speaker 15 He's been through a lot, but these last three years have been the best.

Speaker 15 His life post-transplant is remarkably better than his life was pre-post his his first eight years of his life were a challenge he he had he was ups and downs almost on a daily basis since his transplant knock on wood i don't want to jinx it um his life is remarkably better it's pretty it's pretty incredible what what they can do i mean they literally took his heart out and threw it in the garbage and just put a new one in and just say like all right here we go let's start all over again yeah you're just like what it's pretty crazy but uh yeah i appreciate you asking he's doing great that's awesome

Speaker 7 three years great to hear yeah um one last last question just do you top fives can you do your top five tight ends in the nfl right now oh right now current yeah

Speaker 15 uh

Speaker 15 so kittle and kelsey obviously are the they're the top two speaking in everyone's mind kittle first kittle one i think i mean it's hard obviously self just personally being buddies with them it's hard to pick one i i've said on record during games and now i think kelsey's like one or two more years of what he's done you know a thousand yards i know he came up a a little short last year because he didn't play the last game, but 1,000 yards, what he does in the postseason.

Speaker 15 If he wins another Super Bowl, I don't even think he has to win another Super Bowl. If he has that thousand yard-ish production another year or two, I never thought this would be possible.

Speaker 15 I think Gonzalez, I always thought Gonzalez would kind of stand alone just from a production standpoint of what he was able to accomplish for so long.

Speaker 15 I think Kelsey becomes the first one who enters into that, you know, maybe even more than like, I mean, Gronk was on that trajectory, maybe just didn't play long enough to like get those stats and get that production and longevity.

Speaker 15 But Kelsey's production and longevity is now getting into that, like, Tony Gonzalez era, which I don't think anyone thought was ever going to be duplicated.

Speaker 15 So, I think I'd have to go with Kelsey, although he's asked to do a very different thing than Kittle is. They're in complete polar opposites of the position from a scheme standpoint.

Speaker 15 But those guys are for sure the top two.

Speaker 15 Um, I really like Sam Laporta in the Lions. I'm not saying he's three.
I'm just gaming guys that are in my top five, and I'd have to sort the order out.

Speaker 15 Who else? I've always loved Mark Andrews. I know he had a tough year.
He was banged up last year.

Speaker 15 Who else? Give me some other, throw out some other names. I'll tell you if they're in my top five.

Speaker 1 Cole Kabet,

Speaker 7 Kincaid,

Speaker 1 Dallas Goddard.

Speaker 15 They're close, though. They're getting there.

Speaker 1 Goddard Hawkinson.

Speaker 15 I like Goddard. I think Goddard's, I think he's special.
He's so damn big.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I would say Goddard's probably in my five.

Speaker 15 He doesn't get the like gross production that everyone else does, which I know everyone's obsessed with because, you know, he's got AJ Brown and Devontae Smith, and they're going to take a lot of the targets and a lot of the yardage.

Speaker 15 But I think Goddard, when you like watch him play run game, pass pro, passing game. Yeah, he's he's definitely a top five guy in my mind.

Speaker 1 David Joku was incredible down the stretch line.

Speaker 15 He was awesome last year. I always thought Darren Waller, like Raiders, Darren Waller

Speaker 15 before he got hurt in New York last year and everything, like

Speaker 15 three injured Raiders top of his game.

Speaker 15 Darren Waller I thought was a he was sick and Joku fellow Miami guy had an unbelievable year that guy never has a shirt on and if I didn't if I looked like him I don't think I would have a shirt on either fire um firemuth is good yeah I don't you know top five is that's that's tall company you know you start getting with the likes of those names we just mentioned that's tall company but I think we're in like one of the greatest eras of tight ends in a long time, right?

Speaker 15 I think we got stars and then we also have like a young generation of guys where it seems like every contending team has a tight end, and if you don't have one, you're probably not a contending team.

Speaker 15 Like, that's kind of what it feels like. And

Speaker 15 I think we're just going to see that tight end position just continue to become a bigger and bigger storyline.

Speaker 15 I think what's cool now for young kids in high school, when I came out, like Shocky was the cool tight end, right?

Speaker 15 He was just finishing up at Miami, he got drafted to the Giants, he was cool, he's at nightclubs, he he was like a star, star tight end, right?

Speaker 15 We, I mean, we had Gonzalez and Witten and Gates and those guys, Shannon Sharp, who were all-timers, but like Shockey made the position like mainstream and fun in New York City, at least in my generation, it was, it felt like that.

Speaker 15 Kelsey and Kittle and like these guys now are stars, not just amongst the tight ends, amongst any positions, you know, and I think it makes it a lot cooler and a lot more like, yeah, I'm willing, I'm a 6'4 kid that's gotten too tall to play.

Speaker 15 running back in high school or I'm a too slow of a wide receiver, but I'm pretty long and can run. Like it's cool to be a tight end now.
And I think this, the position is benefiting from it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I agree.

Speaker 1 All right, Greg, tight end you. Very excited to see what comes out of it.
We love having you on. We love you.
Also, a little spin zone. Now they're doing the two game on Fox.

Speaker 2 Maybe you'll be in Chicago a little bit more.

Speaker 1 Dude, that, hey, love that.

Speaker 15 You got to find the positives. Hey, we'll get a couple, get a couple Friday night, Saturday night dinners.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Cocktails. Yes.
And it's probably only this year because

Speaker 1 we're going to be Super Bowl. We might win the Super Bowl this year.
So then next year, we'd be, but this year, we got a chance.

Speaker 15 Yeah, we'll just take one year at a time. You never know what the future brings.
And because remember,

Speaker 15 it's about talking football with the boys. Yeah, it is talking football with all the men.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 15 You guys should sell that. That should be a PMT shirt on the website.

Speaker 1 Well, I would like to invite you to Dude Fest. We're in the works of putting it together.
So you're more than invited to that.

Speaker 2 That would actually be nice.

Speaker 15 What's that look like?

Speaker 15 Tell me what that entails.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it should be a festival where dudes, chicks allowed, just a bunch of dudes show up, and then we have a stage, and dudes can like show, like, we're going to do a topless contest, but it's scars.

Speaker 2 So it's just like a bunch of dudes showing their scars, and we like rank them.

Speaker 15 Shit, like, a bunch of guy, it's just like a bunch of guys being dudes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like you come up, you'd be like, hey, I got a presentation, and then you come up, and your presentation is literally just like an old jacked-up clip, and then we all just cheer and we're like, fuck yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, love it.

Speaker 15 I mean, talking football with the boys, that's the center of life. So that sounds right up my alley.

Speaker 7 Yeah, maybe we do like one where it's just have a catch with Greg Olson. Yeah.
And just you get to like five guys get to just throw a ball back.

Speaker 2 Yeah, mic'd up, and we just see what they talk about.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I love that.
I don't hate that at all. Okay.
All right. Well, Greg, you're the best.

Speaker 2 Can we post it? We love you, man.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much.

Speaker 15 I appreciate you guys. You're the best.
Look forward to seeing you guys when I come to Chicago.

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Speaker 2 The road trip might be over, but dinner's just getting good.

Speaker 5 Also, Hank, is that how you think you spell my name?

Speaker 1 No, he spelt it the way that, uh,

Speaker 1 but you say it.

Speaker 5 Delente. But

Speaker 5 the letters are still wrong.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he knows.

Speaker 5 I don't think he knows.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Hank's a great speller. His front of lobe is perfect.

Speaker 4 I want to get under your skin a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he did.

Speaker 2 He got under your skin a little bit.

Speaker 5 I mean,

Speaker 5 he didn't really have to try with that.

Speaker 1 Memes, Mr. Pear has been red hot.

Speaker 1 2-0.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That was great.

Speaker 1 I got him a new log.

Speaker 7 But he's been good with hockey, right?

Speaker 1 Can we talk about that?

Speaker 4 We've got to just gloss over Vanny Woodhead.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, we talked about it.

Speaker 1 Well, we've known he was coming back. I feel like the big Vanny Woodhead moment was when we got that text message from Billy while we were live that day, and he was like, it still exists.

Speaker 4 But that was so, like, I still, you know, if you asked me that day if we would ever see Vanny Woodhead again, I'd say no.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 It looks awesome to us here. It looks from the outside just like we left it.
On the inside, there's significantly more rat poop than there used to be there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm excited. We're going to pimp it out.
We're going to make it awesome. We're going to do stuff with Vanny Woodhead.
Vanny Woodhead's back. We should probably go.

Speaker 1 We should probably pick a random game that we go to every year.

Speaker 2 That would be sick.

Speaker 1 I've talked to you guys about how badly I want to go to just one game at Fog Allen, a college basketball game.

Speaker 1 That would rock if we hopped in Vanny Woodhead and just drove to Kansas. Like, that's what we should do it with.

Speaker 7 Oh, we should go with Tornado Chasing in Kansas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we should.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Twister's coming out this summer.

Speaker 1 Max can be

Speaker 1 played the role of Buddha Ben and cry. Yeah.

Speaker 7 That was cute.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm excited. What do you want to say?

Speaker 1 I'm excited.

Speaker 4 Was that in Vanny Woodhead?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was in Vanny Woodhead down the side of Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 That was the funniest.

Speaker 7 Driving through Ohio, there were two tornadoes. We saw one of the funnel clouds, and I think Buddha Ben called his mom.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did. He called his mom on me.
Yeah. I do love Buddha Ben, though.
I do, too. He's the best.

Speaker 1 I'm excited about Vanny Woodhead being back. It's more that, like I said, the moment that we found out that he was still alive was the crazy moment to me.
Now,

Speaker 1 getting him back functional is a lot. It's going to take a lot.

Speaker 2 You don't realize.

Speaker 1 No, I do. I don't think you do.
No, I do.

Speaker 7 As a car guy, there is a lot that goes into repairing a car like that.

Speaker 1 As someone who's very good friends with a car guy, I can concur. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I was working all day on the El Camino on Friday.

Speaker 1 I feel like I learned what does that mean?

Speaker 7 I popped the hood

Speaker 7 and then I stared at it and I started pulling some of the wires. And then

Speaker 1 I'll tell you why.

Speaker 7 Here's what my entire move was. Because I thought about this, because I don't know shit about cars.

Speaker 7 I was thinking that if I'm working on a sick-ass car on the side of the road, eventually a car guy is going to come by. You're right.
And he's going to be like, what are you looking at there?

Speaker 7 Can I give you a hand? And then I'd be like, yes, actually, you can just do the entire thing right now.

Speaker 7 I was hoping for that so badly. Didn't happen.
A lot of babes, though. A lot of babes.
Sweet ride.

Speaker 4 So who's up and running first? Vanny or

Speaker 7 Sexy Red. Sexy Red.

Speaker 1 Vanny is not running for you.

Speaker 1 I think you think that Vanny needs

Speaker 1 new tires.

Speaker 4 Yeah, maybe vacuum in the insides a little bit. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 You're thinking like you want an exhibit to walk. We also

Speaker 1 need to do it. We need a new engine.
Vanny needs new wiring. Vanny needs literally everything.
It doesn't work. It doesn't have a key.

Speaker 1 It needs, again, Vanny needs everything,

Speaker 1 which I'm very excited to get the process going and to see it get everything.

Speaker 1 But I also understand that this is going to be a very daunting task because we agreed that we're doing it ourselves.

Speaker 7 There's zero chance.

Speaker 7 Zero chance that it should do that.

Speaker 1 We should do it ourselves.

Speaker 7 Just watching YouTube videos? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do it ourselves. You could buy an engine.

Speaker 7 I think even if we got an actual car guy to work on it, no chance it gets up and running by football season.

Speaker 1 No, this is a spring 25 project. Yeah.
one year. Yeah.
One year from now, Vanny Woodhead is going to be rocking. I'm excited.
What's your first step, or are you just hoping I'll take the first step?

Speaker 1 Because this was the reason why Vanny was scrapped at the beginning was I was just paying the insurance every single month, and we weren't, it wasn't on the road.

Speaker 1 And it was, I was about to lose my license because it was just like, I don't want to, they're like, where is this car? So are you going to be dealing with the money?

Speaker 4 My first step is trying

Speaker 4 make some marketing and some sales packaging so that we can get some money into Vanny Woodhead that we can then spend on fixing it.

Speaker 1 But I'm willing to put some of my own money too, but what is the first step?

Speaker 1 Why don't you, oh,

Speaker 1 since this is a passion project for you, here's a good first step.

Speaker 6 Dunk.

Speaker 2 And you get $20,000 that you can put into Vanny Woodhead.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that makes sense. You will agree that if you dunk, you'll put that $20,000 into Vanny Woodhead? No, no, I.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. So I guess you don't really love Vanny Wood Woodhead.
What happens first?

Speaker 7 Vanny Woodhead gets driving or Hank dunks?

Speaker 1 If you loved Vanny Woodhead, he will be up and running on July 4th.

Speaker 1 If you loved Vanny Woodhead, you would pledge your money. I'll match.

Speaker 4 Well, I'm paying for training, and I told Donnie I'd give him money. The money that I get from this is still going to be negatives, probably.

Speaker 4 With taxes and stuff?

Speaker 7 with taxes what you know yes i mean yes i mean yeah with taxes yes look i would have to pay taxes on yeah good point on cash i think so no yeah definitely no no hank definitely would pay taxes for sure did you follow your taxes this year yeah but i mean i i'm you were gonna pay taxes on us giving you cash i don't know how that shit works they ask you what who asked you die like on your thing

Speaker 1 oh i guess they do they ask you like have you received cash for dunking no you don't have to cut this this is we'll give you 9 999 You can do that as a gift.

Speaker 1 Oh, true. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So you're fine. So we just made a dollar.
Yeah. So

Speaker 7 way to negotiate, Hank.

Speaker 1 All I know is that if I were the one who is going to dunk and get $20,000, I would definitely put it into Vanny Woodhead.

Speaker 7 I would split it. I go half into Vanny Woodhead, then the other half to charity.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But Hank's not going to do either. So he doesn't love the AWS.
I'll put it into Vanny. I don't care.
Oh, so you will pledge to Vanny Woodhead? Some?

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why not all? I'll get like one of those old dice cubes.

Speaker 2 How much can we put you down for right now?

Speaker 4 $2,000.

Speaker 1 That's it?

Speaker 1 $2,000? Let's bump that up.

Speaker 1 Let's get it to five.

Speaker 6 Come on.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 2 We can get you to five.

Speaker 7 I'll do five.

Speaker 1 I'll do five.

Speaker 4 What is that five getting

Speaker 9 a Vanny Woodhead?

Speaker 1 You're not getting anything back from that.

Speaker 7 That's $5,000 to the van.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Can we count on you for five grand?

Speaker 4 Yeah, but once we get money that goes into it, then I want to get recouped.

Speaker 1 Well, let's just

Speaker 1 investment.

Speaker 1 You've got to spend money to make money. You ever heard that? Yeah, I'm fine with that.
All right, so we can count on you for a $5,000 pledge today? Yeah, if I get it recouped. Okay, all right, great.

Speaker 1 Oh, I can't promise a recoup. I just want the pledge.

Speaker 7 All right, pledge. We'll get you a tote bag.

Speaker 1 Great.

Speaker 1 10? We can get all 10.

Speaker 1 Why not? Five. 10.

Speaker 7 You're in for 5? I got you for 5.

Speaker 1 2 to 5 so fast.

Speaker 1 Some old sales tricks right there. Well, yeah.
It's like when you're fucking

Speaker 4 two rich guys, it's hard to say no.

Speaker 1 You're a rich guy. You're driving Audi.

Speaker 7 This podcast is just rich guys. Rich guy problems.

Speaker 1 Rich guy's talking ball. All right, let's finish up the show.

Speaker 1 Pug, I think you're in for the beer games.

Speaker 1 He can't hear me.

Speaker 10 I'm ready to go. Put me in, coach, Pug.

Speaker 1 I think we need to. I think that's got to be our place.
We got to just like, we have to stack the the beer games with like

Speaker 4 you guys you guys should go and then drop out day of and have it just be pugging memes in your place.

Speaker 7 Just get sick.

Speaker 6 I'm down.

Speaker 4 But like still show Big Hat and PFT and all the graphics and stuff.

Speaker 7 And then we should just drink beer anyways.

Speaker 1 I hate that I'm such a good friend that I won't drop out, but I want to drop out.

Speaker 7 I thought about dropping out. I did.

Speaker 1 If you dropped out, it would definitely help push me towards dropping out.

Speaker 7 I've thought about it.

Speaker 1 You could be the linchpin of dropping out.

Speaker 5 I'll also drop out if you want me to.

Speaker 1 No, I can't be the first to drop out in this room because I promise Will.

Speaker 1 But if all my boys drop out and we got to do the podcast.

Speaker 7 Oh, no, like it's not a lie for me to say I am thinking about dropping out.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 1 When you've thought about it,

Speaker 7 I'm currently thinking about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've been thinking about it constantly. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Big Cat and PFT are both considering

Speaker 7 dropping out of the beer games. And in real small font, what it would be like if we...

Speaker 1 Will keeps getting mad at me because I said, I don't want to go, but I'm going to go. He's like, Can you just stop saying you don't want to go?

Speaker 1 It's like, But I'm being honest, I do not want to do this, but I'm going to.

Speaker 1 That's a great friend move.

Speaker 1 I don't want to, but I'm going to.

Speaker 9 Sometimes you got to do things you don't want to do.

Speaker 1 Like Hank pledging $10,000 to Vanny Wood.

Speaker 7 If James Harden invites us on the bachelor party, I'm not going to beer games.

Speaker 1 James, you have a chance to save us. All right.
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