NBA Finals With CJ McCollum, Oilers Get To The SCF Vs The Panthers, Who's Back Of The Week And The WNBA Has People Angry

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Speaker 17 On today's part of my take, we have a longtime friend back on the show, CJ McCollum.

Speaker 19 Great interview with him for longtime AWLs.

Speaker 24 Know that he was one of our favorite interviews back in the day, and we should have had him on earlier, but he's back now talking about the NBA finals, talking about playing in the NBA.

Speaker 19 Great interview with him.

Speaker 24 We're going to talk about the Stanley Cup final. We finally have it.

Speaker 22 It is the Edmonton Oilers versus the Florida Panthers.

Speaker 28 We've got some other sports to talk about.

Speaker 29 We have hotspots or sorry, who's back of the week.

Speaker 31 Great Monday show to kick you off while we wait for the NBA Finals, which should have been game one tonight.

Speaker 28 I think we can all agree.

Speaker 20 It feels like game one would have been perfect tonight.

Speaker 18 But we got some other things to get through.

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Speaker 21 Today is Monday, June 3rd, and the Edmonton Oilers are set to go to the Stanley Cup final where they will face the Florida Panthers and Connor McDavid.

Speaker 16 Can he win the big one?

Speaker 19 He's now in the big one.

Speaker 35 This is big for Canada.

Speaker 8 This is huge. This is for Canada.

Speaker 35 Think about that. An entire nation.
When was the last time? Was it 1993?

Speaker 46 That they won? 1995? That they won?

Speaker 35 That they won a Stanley Cup. It's been a long time.
It's been a long time for our friendly friends up north. And, goddammit, this is going to be good.
I'm excited about this.

Speaker 23 And the Connor McDavid goal to start the scoring tonight against the stars was absolutely unreal.

Speaker 16 I mean,

Speaker 43 that was the goal where you're just like, not that he needs it.

Speaker 24 Again, he still hasn't won the big one, so we're going to wait on that.

Speaker 24 But that goal was so silly and it was ridiculous, and it looked like a goal that you would see come across your timeline in the middle of December being like, oh, he's just trying some new shit out against, you know, the Coyotes.

Speaker 39 No, that was game six of a Western Conference final to Clinch going to the cup.

Speaker 49 He is so goddamn good, and the Oilers are so hot, and they have a celebrity fan now ready to take them to the cup against Brooks Kepka.

Speaker 35 Yeah, if you need a reason to root for the Edmonton Oilers, I will give you two reasons to root for the Edmonton Oilers.

Speaker 24 This fan. Oh, I thought you would say Dry Seidel and

Speaker 24 this fan.

Speaker 35 Yeah, yeah. Just this fan.
The two best reasons.

Speaker 41 Yeah.

Speaker 7 What fan?

Speaker 2 Oh, it was the fan that flashed her titties and they were really nice.

Speaker 35 You saw her.

Speaker 7 You'll probably date her.

Speaker 54 It was a great video. She's passionate.

Speaker 7 She's very passionate.

Speaker 7 I love the passion. She's very passionate.

Speaker 35 Yeah, we need to introduce her to

Speaker 35 our boy Kodak

Speaker 35 down in Florida.

Speaker 35 Get a little peas reunion going down there. Isn't it so funny that

Speaker 21 this Edmonton Oilers fan that was just flashing her whole section?

Speaker 35 Her upper section.

Speaker 43 Like, the internet is a crazy place.

Speaker 27 We've made some crazy technological advancements, and you can find porn, nudity, whatever you want at any time.

Speaker 43 But if you get a pair in the wild, it gets the boys going.

Speaker 32 It is. Unlike anything else.

Speaker 35 It is different.

Speaker 4 It's all the talk.

Speaker 40 I think I've seen that video a thousand times just put on my timeline, and it will probably be a thousand more by the time we drop the puck on Saturday night.

Speaker 35 And I'll watch it every time. Yeah.
And it's not like I'm getting horny when I'm watching. I'm just like, that's awesome.
Yeah. And maybe a little bit horny.

Speaker 41 Boobs Rock.

Speaker 35 What do you think? Those are A-Cups spelled E-H?

Speaker 8 Yeah. There you go.

Speaker 58 But yeah,

Speaker 16 we're going to have Whitney on, I think, Thursday for the Stanley Cup final preview. But we had the Oilers.

Speaker 22 I'm happy for Edmonton Oilers.

Speaker 49 I'm happy for their fan base. Connor Connor McDavid could be

Speaker 21 the next up in terms of best player. He's got to win the big one.

Speaker 48 I did.

Speaker 35 Right now he still sucks.

Speaker 42 I did play myself a little when I said we need to figure out who the next one is that we can say can't win the big one in case McDavid wins it.

Speaker 22 And then everyone was just like, Bedard.

Speaker 33 So I was like, fuck.

Speaker 35 Bedard's got to be.

Speaker 62 Yeah, he's only been in the league for one year.

Speaker 35 He's got a couple seasons for that. He has to get to the playoffs.
Correct. Then he has to lose a playoff series.
Then the narrative can be done.

Speaker 63 Correct. correct.

Speaker 56 But yeah,

Speaker 3 there's other friends of ours that you could put in that group, too, which that also would play ourselves.

Speaker 13 Not going to do that, though.

Speaker 44 Yeah, right.

Speaker 62 So we'll just say that we hope Conor McDavid wins it, and we can be like, he won the big one.

Speaker 64 Uh-huh.

Speaker 47 And if he doesn't, then he can't win the one.

Speaker 35 Then he can't win the big one. In a way, I'm kind of hoping that he loses so we can really focus this take on him.

Speaker 35 Like, losing in the Stanley Cup finals would be the ultimate point on that crown of cannot win the big one.

Speaker 28 Next step to not winning the big one.

Speaker 40 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 35 But I am, I think I'm rooting for Canada. Sorry, Jake.
Sorry about your P's. Sorry, broke.

Speaker 65 I am as well.

Speaker 35 Yeah, I just, Canada. You're so good.

Speaker 51 I just cares so much.

Speaker 35 I cares so deeply. Also, Edmonton's so far up there.

Speaker 65 Have you ever seen a map?

Speaker 8 Edmonton's all the way up there.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 the ice is different in Canada, too. Yeah, it's shinier.
Real shiny ice, fast ice, good ice. The crowd going nuts tonight was awesome.
How many shots on gold did Edmonton have tonight?

Speaker 8 Nine.

Speaker 7 Nine? Yeah.

Speaker 35 They had nine shots on gold.

Speaker 22 All they needed was McDavid's insane shot.

Speaker 35 And he had a great assist, too, to Hyman.

Speaker 49 Yeah, he was,

Speaker 49 that was, that was awesome.

Speaker 22 The other side, memes,

Speaker 22 you have to be so happy.

Speaker 4 I went immediately to memes just getting, first of all, memes tweeted, did you tweet from the part of my take account, just a Rangers jersey that said ass?

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 22 People were upset about that, but I love it because this is what memes does.

Speaker 18 Memes, congratulations.

Speaker 2 You've won your Stanley Cup as someone who also hates a lot in sports.

Speaker 52 I'm happy for you in this moment.

Speaker 51 Yeah,

Speaker 51 I'm super pumped.

Speaker 66 I took a couple victory laps last night.

Speaker 42 Yeah, I'm just very excited summer could officially start.

Speaker 35 Yeah. You do like watching the Rangers lose more than you like watching the Islanders win.

Speaker 22 Yeah, probably at this point. Yeah.

Speaker 49 Frankie did his tweet that he does every single year for the 83rd time in 84 seasons, the New York Rangers have been eliminated from the playoffs. And that got people very upset.

Speaker 28 It is crazy that a franchise has been around that long and gets talked about like that and has only won one.

Speaker 8 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 35 There was just that one season during the OJ year. And besides that, all theirs come from like World War II.
Yeah.

Speaker 43 Do you think they could ever win it?

Speaker 51 This year was probably their best year.

Speaker 12 Oh, man.

Speaker 54 There's also the stat from Josh Dubau.

Speaker 54 With the Rangers eliminated, there have now been 100 combined seasons by the Rangers, Islanders, Knicks, Nets, Yankees, Mets, Jets, Giants without a championship.

Speaker 51 That's wild.

Speaker 4 So what's the last one? It's the Giants?

Speaker 48 Yankees and 09. No, Giants.

Speaker 8 The Giants Giants 112, right? Yeah, yeah, Giants.

Speaker 33 That's crazy.

Speaker 17 100 combined.

Speaker 35 Bad sports town.

Speaker 21 Man, they do have Aaron Judge who can't stop hitting home runs.

Speaker 35 And Juan Soto, who's just absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 23 Well, it's more Juan Soto and Aaron Judge combined.

Speaker 68 Cole, hopefully, for the second half.

Speaker 30 Oh, once a Yankee, always a Yankee.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 22 The

Speaker 22 New York Sports down bad.

Speaker 13 100 combined?

Speaker 17 That's a lot of seasons in a row, isn't it, Hank?

Speaker 36 Because they have a lot of teams.

Speaker 54 Twice as many teams.

Speaker 69 Holy shit.

Speaker 35 I don't think Hank's ever gone that long as an alive person without a team winning a channel.

Speaker 13 Not even close.

Speaker 33 Yeah. Not even close to close.

Speaker 7 This is probably the longest stretch.

Speaker 39 Yeah, you're in the midst of your worst stretch.

Speaker 51 And you won a Super Bowl, what, like six years ago?

Speaker 54 Yeah, and the Red Sox won it in 2018.

Speaker 35 Oh, you're such a piece of shit.

Speaker 43 I'm excited, though.

Speaker 57 Speaking of it, Hank,

Speaker 49 I know we talked about it last week, but the NBA schedule,

Speaker 23 my body was ready for the NBA finals to start tonight.

Speaker 54 It's brutal. I mean,

Speaker 54 I'm just walking around the house being like, what do I do

Speaker 54 to start the game? Just start it. I just can't keep thinking about it.
Just start.

Speaker 19 And you still have three more days. I know.

Speaker 2 Three more full days to get through.

Speaker 35 Yeah. Are you weaponizing time?

Speaker 54 No, I'm not great with time management. I'm just waiting.
I'm just sitting and waiting.

Speaker 35 Yeah. You're getting hungry, though.

Speaker 54 I'm so ready. My body is so ready.

Speaker 35 As hungry as you've ever been. Longest route of your life.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 27 I'm sticking with my Celtics in seven, but I did find some stats.

Speaker 23 I told you I was going to search, and they're not.

Speaker 19 They make me think that

Speaker 17 I'm just nervous for you.

Speaker 54 It's going to be tight. I mean, it's not going to be an easy series.

Speaker 49 The Mavericks, with these starting five guys that they've had, are on a would be a 67-win team, which is, I know that they weren't a 67-win win team, but they've been playing like a 67 win team.

Speaker 54 They're a good team?

Speaker 8 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 35 Did you guys see the I still am taking Celtics and seven?

Speaker 33 I think, yeah,

Speaker 62 I feel strong about Celtics and seven.

Speaker 35 Did you guys see the sad over the weekend that going back to 2017, every NBA champion has had a former wizard on the team?

Speaker 35 All the role players, they're all wizards.

Speaker 35 So it's JaVale McGee, Sean Livingston, Jodi Meeks, JaVale McGee again, Dwight Howard, Markeith Morris, Bobby Portis, Gary Payton, Otto Porter, Chris Chioza, KCP, Jeff Green, Ish Smith, Thomas Bryant.

Speaker 35 That's just the list of former Wizards since 2017. So that means...

Speaker 54 Like everyone's a former Wizards.

Speaker 54 Everyone goes to the Wizards for one year.

Speaker 35 Yes, correct, correct, correct. But don't downplay the stat, Hank.
It's a true stat.

Speaker 35 This year, Porzingis.

Speaker 54 I didn't know any of those guys were on the Wizards.

Speaker 35 Borzingus. Borzingis, Hank.
Also, Gafford on the Mavericks. So the stat's going to continue for at least one more season.

Speaker 48 Yeah, I guess. It's important, though.

Speaker 22 It's very important.

Speaker 65 Those are the important stats. Yep.

Speaker 61 Okay.

Speaker 35 We could talk some soccer.

Speaker 28 I'm waiting just to, you know what?

Speaker 1 Fuck it.

Speaker 70 Let's just do it.

Speaker 2 The WNBA, I said this last week.

Speaker 21 The discourse fucking sucks.

Speaker 35 What happened this time? It got worse.

Speaker 5 It got way worse.

Speaker 35 It's so much worse than it was last week.

Speaker 43 Caitlin Clark got assaulted.

Speaker 23 She almost died. Yeah.

Speaker 19 And we all have to sit here and debate it and talk about things that are not basketball.

Speaker 35 Yeah, so Caitlin Clark, it was a good game.

Speaker 35 You watched the game between the sky and the fever on Saturday. These two teams don't like each other very much.
Little Raven Steelers.

Speaker 35 That's going to be the Raven Steelers of the next 10 years in the WNBA.

Speaker 35 The Fever

Speaker 35 beat Chicago on Saturday by one point. No one's talking about the missed free throw at the end.
Cost your team the game.

Speaker 35 It was a good game, but there was

Speaker 35 a lot of horseplay. A lot of antics.
A lot of antics. A lot of extracurriculars on the court involving

Speaker 35 hip-checking Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese celebrating, her teammates celebrating, and then none of them wanting to talk about it after the game. Yes, they hate.

Speaker 43 That part I actually think is a lame move.

Speaker 35 Yes, they hate Caitlin Clark. That could be good for the WNBA.

Speaker 24 That's been my point.

Speaker 35 But you have to acknowledge it. You have to not give a fuck.
You're like, yeah, we don't like her. Correct.
And you have to say it with your chest. A lady from Edmonton would do that.

Speaker 45 And the discourse has now become, it's so bizarre to me because, one, so it was a cheap shot.

Speaker 51 It's not like that wasn't like a regular foul.

Speaker 55 It also wasn't, in terms of cheap shots, a very dangerous one.

Speaker 49 It was just like a side check.

Speaker 47 And what you would think is that Caitlin Clark was maimed, assaulted, like beaten close to death by this one play.

Speaker 57 That wasn't the case.

Speaker 4 It also, it's so bizarre that every time one of these things happens, it just becomes something so much bigger than just talking about the basketball game.

Speaker 22 And yes, I do think there are women in the WNBA that are very jealous of Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 2 That is lame.

Speaker 71 But what I would say to that is the people who are jealous of Caitlin Clark, and when they take cheap shots at her, like Caitlin Clark, if she keeps being really, really good at basketball and if she has a career that she's expected to have, all those people will be a footnote to Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 71 It won't matter. She'll get the last laugh.

Speaker 1 Like, they'll just be the jealous haters that her rookie year tried to toughen her, you know, tried to be tough to her.

Speaker 43 It just doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 But it becomes this thing where it's like, we have to protect Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 18 I also don't understand PFD for the life of me. I get it.

Speaker 65 Like, Caitlin Clark is going to add viewership, but like asking all the women to basically be like, we have to bow down to her also makes no sense.

Speaker 35 Yeah, they shouldn't. They shouldn't.

Speaker 35 And honestly, if this was the NBA, and you see this happen in other sports leagues, somebody comes to the league as a rookie with all these expectations, if they're the main storyline that year, the players in that league are going to be pissed off about that, and they're going to take it out.

Speaker 35 And they'll say it, though. They'll be like, yeah, we're sick of people talking about her.
We've been playing basketball too here. And so we want to show her on the court.

Speaker 35 Like, yeah, we're going to beat you up a little bit.

Speaker 3 Can you find the clip?

Speaker 28 If we could play this clip, I remember it so well.

Speaker 19 When LeBron

Speaker 71 was going to Cleveland and they interviewed, it was like Boozer, Smush Parker, like complete no, like Boozer obviously had a good career, but Smush Parker, no name.

Speaker 40 I think Darius Miles, they basically were like, yeah, maybe he'll be able to like help us a little bit.

Speaker 31 And shitting on their teammate.

Speaker 20 Also, Caitlin Clark's teammates.

Speaker 33 Someone step up.

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 70 Stop.

Speaker 1 It's not the internet's job to defend Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 31 It's your teammates' job.

Speaker 32 That's who you should be mad at.

Speaker 31 It should be like, hey, where are the teammates?

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 35 Have they gotten any quotes from her teammates being like, do you like Caitlin Clark? Because it seems like they don't like her either.

Speaker 4 Either way, it's just, it becomes this

Speaker 22 enormous

Speaker 18 culture war that it's like, dude, I just wanted to watch some basketball.

Speaker 19 And if you think that I'm...

Speaker 39 I'm being very consistent because I said this last week when Angel Reese got clotheslined, which was probably a more dangerous foul, and people were making it bigger than basketball.

Speaker 49 I was like, this is going to ruin this, like, the WNBA, the amount of people who have started watching WNBA who are not actual sports fans are going to ruin the WNBA.

Speaker 33 Yeah. Because guess what?

Speaker 4 Like, cheap shots happen, hard fouls happen, like, rivalries happen.

Speaker 61 That helps the sport.

Speaker 5 Bad blood helps sports.

Speaker 35 I would like Angel Reese to just stand on it and say, yeah, fuck her. Agreed.
I don't like her. And what she said publicly this whole time has been, I have no problem with her.

Speaker 35 I like Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 35 And every single action that she's had since they had that championship game two years ago has been like, I hate her. Remember the little crown that she left? Yes.
Or like, she does not like her.

Speaker 35 And just say that you don't like her. And then, and then, guess what's going to happen after that? People are going to be like, yes, I love Angel Reese.
I don't like Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 35 Other people are going to be like, yes, that's awesome. I love Caitlin Clark.
I don't like Angel Rees. And then when they play each other, it becomes a big fucking moment and everybody does it.

Speaker 45 Right.

Speaker 71 And it's a good point because for the people who are freaking out, like, we must protect Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 22 She can't be, like, this is the worst foul ever.

Speaker 57 They're lame.

Speaker 1 The people on the other side who are saying essentially there's no jealousy and there's nothing involved, like, this is just, no, there's jealousy.

Speaker 73 They're jealous of Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 23 They 100% are.

Speaker 45 It's okay to admit it.

Speaker 16 They're going, again, they're going to be footnotes in Caitlin Clark's

Speaker 72 career.

Speaker 2 When it's all said and done, they're going to be the Lance Stevenson blowing in LeBron's ear.

Speaker 31 You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Like, that's what happens.

Speaker 16 When you can't beat him straight up, you end up looking petty and probably stupid.

Speaker 4 And if Caitlin Clark goes on and has an incredible career, she should invite, what's her name?

Speaker 36 Chaya. What's her name?

Speaker 49 Chennedy.

Speaker 48 Chennedy. Yeah.

Speaker 31 Chennedy to her Hall of Fame induction and single her out.

Speaker 5 Be like, hey,

Speaker 32 thanks for fucking being mean to me.

Speaker 56 You made me work harder.

Speaker 33 That's how sports work.

Speaker 35 And there was another shot that was called a cheap shot that it did look like Caitlin Clark might have flopped a little bit on one of them to try to sell it.

Speaker 35 So she flops, and that's going to make people hate her more. But again, this is all, I would already be saying this is good for the sport.
It might already be good for the sport. I think it is.

Speaker 35 I just get exhausted seeing people

Speaker 35 with the, like you said, the culture war takes online, like go all in on one side of it without like...

Speaker 35 taking the time to acknowledge that this could be good and feeling this way about sports can lead to some awesome stuff.

Speaker 47 And sports are tough and physical and these things happen in sports and we can't just be like,

Speaker 18 you cannot touch Caitlin Clark because she is good for the game.

Speaker 59 She's great for the game.

Speaker 39 She's going to get face guarded.

Speaker 27 She's going to probably, obviously, if there's cheap shots like at the knees and stuff, but in terms of, again, cheap shots, like a side check is nothing.

Speaker 35 Yeah, I also think that for a long time, women's sports has been talked about like in the sense of, at least by the major media places, like rooting for everyone. Right.

Speaker 35 Like, let's celebrate everyone.

Speaker 43 Right.

Speaker 35 And the way that we talk about men's sport is much different different than that where it's like, fuck this guy, I hate this guy. Right.
I want to like memes hatred towards the rangers. Right.
Right.

Speaker 35 Like, having hatred towards a different city when your teams are playing sports against each other. That's that's how we feel about sports usually.

Speaker 35 And now the WNBA is coming to this place where it's more of a reckoning of not always talking about every team like, oh, she's a star. Oh, she's so good.

Speaker 35 And rooting for every single player at the same time, but actually forming an identity around your team and around players that you care about and love. Yes.

Speaker 35 And even casuals forming that same love-hatred about players that they don't normally get or teams that they don't normally care about. Yes.
But now they're finding themselves invested into it.

Speaker 35 Having this type of hatred and love, I think, is ultimately going to be very, very good for the WNBA. Let sports be sports.
Let them be fun.

Speaker 35 Let just sports happen.

Speaker 42 It all evens out.

Speaker 19 Because at the end of the day, the best part about sports is if you're better than the other team or the other player who is doing this kind of shit, you will end up winning out.

Speaker 19 Caitlin Caitlin Clark will end up having a long career that makes millions of dollars because she's better than line, name, Chennedy.

Speaker 48 Chennedy.

Speaker 39 Okay?

Speaker 31 So Chennedy will look like a fool at the end.

Speaker 62 And that's the beauty of sports.

Speaker 47 We don't need to protect Caitlin Clark by making this some big,

Speaker 55 you know,

Speaker 18 discourse about society and everything.

Speaker 4 Just let it fucking play out.

Speaker 5 And when Caitlin Clark wins, it's going to be awesome for her.

Speaker 35 Yeah, so it's kind of like Larry Bird to me, where are some players in the WNBA resentful of Caitlin Clark because she's getting a lot of attention as a white woman, whereas the WNBA is predominantly black, and there have been a lot of great black players over the years that haven't gotten the same attention that Caitlin's gotten?

Speaker 35 Yes, they probably find some resentment in that and they're upset about that, just like a lot of NBA players were upset at the media attention around Larry Bird.

Speaker 59 Isaiah Thomas said it before

Speaker 19 NBA Finals and Larry Bird went and won the NBA Finals.

Speaker 51 Yes.

Speaker 16 Won three MVPs.

Speaker 45 And no one can say shit about him.

Speaker 35 And what Caitlin's done up to this point has been it's not because she's white that she's getting, she's really fucking good. Yeah.
She set the all-time record for point score in college.

Speaker 35 She's pretty good on her own, regardless of, of her race. But once she gets to WNBA, she gets her legs under her and she becomes the star that people think that she's going to become, guess what?

Speaker 35 A lot of that hatred is going to fade away from being like, oh, I'm mad that this white woman is taking attention from the predominantly black WNBA.

Speaker 35 And it's going to be just competition against each other. And I don't like her because we're competing against each other.
But goddammit, do I respect her because she wins?

Speaker 15 Anyone who's jealous like this,

Speaker 22 it's almost a compliment because you're basically like, you're essentially saying, I know that she's a problem.

Speaker 15 I know that she's going to be really, really good.

Speaker 23 It's like when we, when in the Final Four, when the UConn, all-UCon broadcast and like Diana Taurasi and all of them were like, oh, she's going to find out when they get to WNBA.

Speaker 32 They're threatened

Speaker 31 because she's young and better.

Speaker 62 And so it's like, this is how sports work.

Speaker 36 And then when she beats him, she's going to get the last lap.

Speaker 40 All right, play this clip.

Speaker 35 But, I mean, you want to talk about a can't win the big one conversation.

Speaker 48 Caitlin Clark. Caitlin Clark.
Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 7 They cannot win the big one. All right.

Speaker 22 This is from LeBron's rookie year.

Speaker 60 This is Carlos Boozer and his other teammates.

Speaker 74 We have better players than him and his position already on our team, bro. And he will come in and make an immediate impact like a Karan Butler.

Speaker 74 I don't think you can really just bring a high school player in

Speaker 74 and really just think your team is going to really turn around like that. If he come,

Speaker 74 you know what I'm saying? He can just hop on our bandwagon.

Speaker 8 Yeah, this is like,

Speaker 1 I mean, this is what happens when someone gets hyped and they show up.

Speaker 33 There's going to be resentment because she's better than them.

Speaker 51 LeBron was better than them.

Speaker 35 Also, if you're playing in the NBA,

Speaker 35 you're used to playing against grown men every single night. You probably would look down on a high schooler too and be like, this league is very, very tough.

Speaker 35 I don't know that a high schooler can come in and do it. Yes, you're going going to hate on youngsters.
Guess what? That's what old people do.

Speaker 35 And if you're a youngster out there listening to this, one day you're going to become old and you're going to hate on youngsters too. Yep.

Speaker 35 You're going to say right now, no, I'm never going to be a hater. Guess what? Time makes haters of us all.

Speaker 8 All of us.

Speaker 51 All of us.

Speaker 20 I just want sports to be sports.

Speaker 21 I'm just sick of when Caitlin Clark has a game, we just have to have everyone argue about culture.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 41 You're going to ruin the game.

Speaker 32 You're going to ruin the sport.

Speaker 35 We got three more think pieces coming today on Slate about Caitlin Clark and what she means. We must protect her.
The problem with Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 21 It is very funny when people are like, well, she got them that plane.

Speaker 20 Why would they not like her?

Speaker 13 It's like, because she's fucking better than them, and they're competing.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 35 Why would they? It's a nice plane. Yeah.

Speaker 19 They're competing against each other.

Speaker 35 But guess what? Caitlin Clark gets to the league. Now the rest of WNBA doesn't get to use their frequent flyer miles anymore and collect those sweet benefits on the back end.
So fuck Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 35 Yeah,

Speaker 60 it's quite something.

Speaker 50 All right, what else we got?

Speaker 52 We did have the Champions League, Real Madrid, talking soccer.

Speaker 65 You want to talk soccer real quick?

Speaker 56 Sure.

Speaker 47 15th Champions League.

Speaker 63 Yep.

Speaker 35 And Barcelona was the first to congratulate them. Really? You don't have to do that.

Speaker 35 If you're a

Speaker 35 official account of a team on Twitter, you don't have to congratulate your rival on winning a championship.

Speaker 13 No.

Speaker 23 That's a total cuck move.

Speaker 35 It is. They just did for the impressions.

Speaker 17 Oh, that's lame.

Speaker 13 Why would they do that?

Speaker 35 I don't know, but that was talking soccer.

Speaker 37 So is is Real Madrid the GOAT?

Speaker 35 Real Madrid.

Speaker 22 They're the best franchise?

Speaker 35 Man United would always just say that they were.

Speaker 49 15 is a lot.

Speaker 51 Feels like a lot.

Speaker 21 Is that the most?

Speaker 35 I don't know.

Speaker 35 Okay, let me look it up. I'm a Super League guy myself.
Champions League. Never forget those two weeks that we had a couple summers ago.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 49 Most titles in Champions League history.

Speaker 7 Here we go.

Speaker 37 I got it.

Speaker 39 All right.

Speaker 19 We've got Real Madrid with 15, Milan in second place with seven.

Speaker 21 I'm going to say it. Real Madrid, the best ever.

Speaker 35 Yeah, they're still.

Speaker 43 That's not even close.

Speaker 35 Still the best ever.

Speaker 24 Barcelona has five.

Speaker 2 Liverpool has six. Byron has six.

Speaker 51 Come on.

Speaker 32 Are they bad for soccer?

Speaker 35 Yeah, for sure. They're for sure bad for soccer.
For sure, bad for soccer. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 I missed the first half of this game.

Speaker 21 And then I saw the second half.

Speaker 3 Thrilling.

Speaker 35 I saw the end. I saw the celebrations.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 As someone who missed the first half, I was able to bet over one and a half goals in the second half. That was fun.

Speaker 7 Did cash?

Speaker 35 Yeah. Oh, nice.
Good work.

Speaker 49 That was like, I said, for anyone out there who might have forgotten that this game kicked off.

Speaker 35 Again, soccer should just make goals worth three points. Yeah.
And then everybody would be way happier. They'd be like, wow, what a high-scoring game.

Speaker 18 Did you guys see probably the biggest story of the Champions League is Joan Bede was there.

Speaker 32 Yeah. Got free time.

Speaker 35 Yeah. That was cool.
And he's tall. Who is he rooting for?

Speaker 3 Real Madrid. Okay.

Speaker 8 Real Madrid fan.

Speaker 44 He is?

Speaker 75 Did you see that? There was a clip of him.

Speaker 51 Wow, Max, what happened?

Speaker 75 I was singing on Friday.

Speaker 36 You sang one song?

Speaker 75 But it was one song loudly.

Speaker 63 Yeah, it wasn't. It was loud.
It was very loud.

Speaker 35 He also did crush it. Max got on stage, and there was a guy that was waiting for Max in the front row, and he had two sodas in his hands ready to go.

Speaker 35 And Max saw him and just scowled at him and then paced around the stage like a tiger circling his prey for a second. Was like, fuck it, I'm going to chug those sodas.

Speaker 35 And then just ripped the sodas right off the bat.

Speaker 4 You look like Jason Kelsey.

Speaker 75 I know.

Speaker 75 That was the greatest compliment that's ever been given.

Speaker 35 Yeah. Hank got booed.

Speaker 8 Oh.

Speaker 25 Did I?

Speaker 35 You got booed. Well, it was a clap.
It was a round of applause. And then you did like a little jump to show your vert, and then people booed your vert.

Speaker 8 Oh, no.

Speaker 54 I thought there. I just remember the cheers.
Okay, you remember the cheers.

Speaker 2 Were you going to say, Max, about Joe Embiid being at the Champions League?

Speaker 14 Because he's got time?

Speaker 8 What? No.

Speaker 75 I didn't say that. I just said that he was tall.
There was a clip of like

Speaker 75 two of the pregame guys on each other's shoulders to see if they were taller than Embiid.

Speaker 35 When do you think he bought those tickets?

Speaker 56 I don't know. He probably didn't pay for the tickets.

Speaker 35 What about his air flight? Like his airfare? He probably bought his flight a couple months ago. He's a rich man.

Speaker 35 Probably a couple months ago.

Speaker 49 He's a rich man.

Speaker 18 He's a rich man.

Speaker 30 Yeah, but he definitely had it planned.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 28 They probably were like, hey, do you...

Speaker 21 Like, before the season started, they're like, hey, can you come do the desk of the Champions League? He's like, when?

Speaker 51 Oh, yeah, no problem.

Speaker 19 Early June?

Speaker 32 I won't even. We could make it.

Speaker 7 You want to move it up a week?

Speaker 11 We do late May.

Speaker 56 I think

Speaker 75 i'm going to be in paris when the u.s play u.s plays and it's going to be embedded versus joker joker the one the one day that i'm there that u.s plays what yeah are you gonna wait i forgot embedd plays for us yes that's kind of weird he plays for us i love it but i i i'll be fight i'll be fighting that fight from the front lines in in france you'll be the big you a big usa guy but not really because who you think there's going to be a lot of

Speaker 29 like it'd be better if it was us versus france

Speaker 44 It's what?

Speaker 22 It'd be better if it was USA versus France.

Speaker 75 But it's USA, but it's Embiid versus Joker.

Speaker 51 You're just, oh, okay, so Embiid probably won't be playing.

Speaker 8 No, hopefully.

Speaker 47 Wait,

Speaker 47 is the game in altitude?

Speaker 13 No.

Speaker 59 Zero altitude.

Speaker 35 I don't know the altitude. It's in Paris, France.
Let's see. It can't be zero altitude.
Is it in Paris? Let's see, Paris, Altitude. No, I don't think it's actually in.

Speaker 65 Oh, you better hope it's not in the altitude.

Speaker 35 115 feet above sea level.

Speaker 32 Where is the game?

Speaker 45 Are you going to to go to the game?

Speaker 8 Yes. Oh, okay.

Speaker 75 If I can get tickets, I got to figure out how to get tickets.

Speaker 44 Game time. Game time.
Shout out game time. Game time, Matt.

Speaker 3 Where is the game, Max?

Speaker 16 Because if it's more than 300, 400 feet altitude, there's no chance Embiid shows up.

Speaker 35 If that game's in Burgundy, you're fucked.

Speaker 12 Okay.

Speaker 21 He's getting it. He's getting this.

Speaker 41 I forgot we had this this summer.

Speaker 12 That's going to rock.

Speaker 76 The schedule might not be out yet.

Speaker 51 Oh, no. Because they have to do like pools.

Speaker 75 No, it is.

Speaker 35 It is because I looked at it. You remember we learned about the Olympics because they did the sex bed thing? The no-sex bed thing.

Speaker 44 That's exactly what I'm doing.

Speaker 35 That's how we found out about it.

Speaker 75 You're right. June 20th.
Wait.

Speaker 43 Fuck. Why am I in Arizona basketball?

Speaker 8 All right. So,

Speaker 63 wait, Max, is this pool play that we're talking about here?

Speaker 5 This is going to be.

Speaker 39 This should just be a segment of Max Tries to Google.

Speaker 63 Is this pool play?

Speaker 41 It's a pool game. This is bad.

Speaker 35 It's a pool game of USA versus Slovenia or whatever. Serbia.
Serbia. If it's pool, I hope that the U.S.
has already won and locked up our spot in the pool and that Lily and B gets it.

Speaker 41 I found it.

Speaker 60 I just said it.

Speaker 8 Lille.

Speaker 54 Lily.

Speaker 8 Lily.

Speaker 35 Lily?

Speaker 35 You better figure that out.

Speaker 44 L-I-L-L-C.

Speaker 35 That's maybe the worst city for Philadelphian to try to pronounce.

Speaker 9 Lily. Lily.

Speaker 8 Lily. Lily.

Speaker 18 It is 82 to 147 meters.

Speaker 29 That's pretty big.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 35 So 100.

Speaker 57 So that's like 300 feet.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 35 That's almost

Speaker 35 almost a tenth of a mile high, almost.

Speaker 24 So he'll probably not play.

Speaker 51 Yeah.

Speaker 20 That would be funny if he just, if he was, if he was like on load management for the Olympics. Yeah.

Speaker 21 Especially if you got tickets to it.

Speaker 19 All right.

Speaker 16 Do we have anything else before we do who's back of the week?

Speaker 14 Hank, any thoughts on WNBA?

Speaker 54 No, I thought the

Speaker 72 cheering for the hit was

Speaker 54 the craziest part of the whole thing.

Speaker 59 Agreed. They're jealous.

Speaker 73 They're very jealous.

Speaker 18 Anyone who pretends they're not jealous is crazy, but

Speaker 29 that's part of sports is being jealousy.

Speaker 54 I'm more likely to watch the next time they play.

Speaker 16 Correct. And I do think that they should.

Speaker 22 I absolutely believe they should have to answer to it and be like, hey, we're jealous.

Speaker 35 Yeah, they should say all the reasons they're pissed off. They should be real about it.

Speaker 51 But acting like Caitlin Clark

Speaker 52 got memed is pretty insane to me.

Speaker 35 Yeah, it was a hip check. Not super, super hard.
They retroactively upped it to a flagrant one. Got it.
After the fact. Got it.
And then I think they fined Angel Reese a thousand bucks.

Speaker 35 Just a lot of money. Not talking to the media.

Speaker 23 Yeah, that's a lot of money.

Speaker 29 All right, let's do who's back of the week.

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Speaker 8 Hank.

Speaker 54 My Who's Back of the Week is Common Men.

Speaker 8 Oh, good.

Speaker 54 In the golf tournament this weekend, Fluff, the legendary Caddy Fluff, he got injured

Speaker 54 on the third hole. I think he fell down.

Speaker 7 And the golfer, C.T.

Speaker 54 Pan, just grabbed a random guy from the crowd and carried the bag for the rest of the day.

Speaker 54 Just a legendary common man move. Just like, yeah, I'll take the bag.

Speaker 20 Why don't we have emergency caddies like we do with the e-bug in hockey?

Speaker 68 Because they never, this never happens.

Speaker 48 Yeah, but

Speaker 63 it just happens.

Speaker 35 It's not about it never happening.

Speaker 35 It's like every round,

Speaker 35 they should pick out the spectators before the game happens and just assign however many, like 70 different spectators. Like, if this guy goes down, you're stepping in.

Speaker 35 So that person has to just be at the tournament all day thinking, I might get in.

Speaker 5 Well, this guy, he was perfect. He was perfect.

Speaker 18 You could just see that guy, like,

Speaker 43 he could carry a bag, no problem, Haas.

Speaker 23 But I'm saying, like, before a tournament starts,

Speaker 12 let's just put like three dudes with cankles into, like, a horse barn and just have them standing there with their polo on, ready to go.

Speaker 4 Like, this guy was just central casting.

Speaker 40 He is built like a man who can carry a golf bag around for a long time.

Speaker 31 But yeah, put him in a horse barn, do do a live shot to him every now and then.

Speaker 15 These caddies are ready to go.

Speaker 12 Do you think he was trying to give them reads?

Speaker 15 Yeah, do you think they asked him, like, have you played this before?

Speaker 8 I love the handshake.

Speaker 31 Do we know how it happened?

Speaker 45 Like, how he picked this guy out?

Speaker 7 I think he literally just grabbed it.

Speaker 35 He's trying to get it to fit.

Speaker 54 They literally just grabbed a guy from the crowd.

Speaker 35 Yeah, they said, you, sir, you look like you can carry a bag.

Speaker 29 And they picked a perfect guy.

Speaker 35 Yeah, if I were him, I'd keep my mouth shut on like the first two holes. And then if he got a couple birdies, I would start tossing it.

Speaker 4 Remember, Jerry did this on the Corn Ferry tour with Quade Collins Paul Emerson is the guy's name he hails from Ontario was traversing the par four third hole at Hamilton Golf and Country Club when he realized that CT Pan's caddy Mike Fluff Cowen had been injured and was unable to continue caddying pan's playing partner Shane Lowry was carrying his own bag and Lowry's caddy Darren Reynolds was carrying Pan's bag wow that's a good move by Lowry wow Awesome move.

Speaker 4 As Pan was walking Cowan over to a medic on the side of the fairway, Emerson asked Pan if he could lend a hand.

Speaker 39 Oh, so he just asked.

Speaker 35 He just picked him out. He identified him.

Speaker 40 Yeah, he said, I helped Fluff get the bib off, threw it on, and started walking up the hole.

Speaker 62 Pan was grateful for the support, and Emerson took the bag.

Speaker 23 He looped through the fifth fairway before a member of the caddy services team, Michael Campbell, stepped in.

Speaker 43 Campbell was replaced by Al Riddle.

Speaker 39 What the fuck?

Speaker 46 He had four caddies?

Speaker 35 So

Speaker 35 it was like the head caddy that took over for this guy. Yeah.
He was like, I'll get another guy in your bag soon. That's awesome.
How hard is it to be a replacement caddy?

Speaker 35 I feel like a replacement caddy is the easiest job in sports.

Speaker 21 We saw Scotty Scheffler's best friend do it on Saturday of the PGA Championship, and he shot his best.

Speaker 7 Well, that's because he got arrested today

Speaker 8 before.

Speaker 20 He shot a 66 with his caddy on Friday after he got arrested.

Speaker 68 Yeah, but he said it was a lot of adrenaline.

Speaker 49 There's no way that having his best friend Caddy didn't fuck him up on that.

Speaker 12 He definitely did a little bit.

Speaker 35 I think, no, but I do think that on Saturday you wake up, you realize what happened. You probably didn't sleep that well that night.

Speaker 4 He shot like 66 every round, except the one that he didn't have his caddy.

Speaker 35 I think I would almost take just a no-name, just a random guy like this guy. I would take this guy over a friend because a friend, you're probably chopping it up.
You're telling inside jokes.

Speaker 35 There's too much history there. You need a guy that's just going to do the job.
And this guy, this man right here, that's a man that can do the job. Yeah.

Speaker 16 But no, he definitely wasn't giving him reads.

Speaker 23 He wasn't helping him.

Speaker 24 No chance.

Speaker 35 I would have just tossed one out there. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Okay, PFT.

Speaker 35 All right. Good.
Who's back? Thanks.

Speaker 21 Great who's back.

Speaker 35 Appreciate it. This is also also in golf news,

Speaker 35 Kevin James is back because he's playing John Daly in a mini-series about John Daly. Oh, hell yes.
I think Kevin James is just like, just living out the dream.

Speaker 35 Just like, I just want to do sports movies, and I want to play guys that I like to watch on TV. Yeah.
So he did Sean Payton. Now he's doing John Daly.

Speaker 35 I actually think that playing John Daly in a movie is more physically draining than being John Daly in real life. Yeah.
Like trying to get in that lifestyle.

Speaker 35 We tapped into that lifestyle for a little bit.

Speaker 24 It wasn't nice.

Speaker 35 last week. That video is coming out Thursday, right, Max?

Speaker 35 You already have it ready to go, right? You just have to press the button.

Speaker 8 What? The John Daly challenge?

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, yeah. John Daly challenge.
Yeah.

Speaker 56 Yeah,

Speaker 75 you were working on it.

Speaker 65 Yeah, but that's

Speaker 65 an answer.

Speaker 35 To me, that's a cursed role playing John Daly. It doesn't, not every actor can do that.
I don't care if they're prop cigarettes. I don't care if they're prop ice-cold beers.
Yeah.

Speaker 35 You're going to put your body through a little bit of hell. It's like, yeah, it's like Jared Leto.
I would like to see Jared Leto play John Daly and go full method on it.

Speaker 1 Is Is Jared Leto the person you use for method acting?

Speaker 35 Well, yeah, because he's the real psycho that everybody hates on scene.

Speaker 16 So he's been replaced by Daniel Day-Lewis? Because Daniel Day-Lewis was the guy.

Speaker 35 He's the guy, but Jared Leto is like a real weirdo. He's a new guy? He's a weirdo when he does it.

Speaker 43 And then the guy before that was

Speaker 30 Tom Hagen.

Speaker 60 What was his name?

Speaker 12 Burt Reynolds. No.

Speaker 24 No. What was the actor's name?

Speaker 41 Tom Hanks.

Speaker 51 No.

Speaker 65 Tom Hagen. Robert Juval.

Speaker 13 Robert Juval.

Speaker 51 I'm pretty sure Robert Juval.

Speaker 35 He's Method?

Speaker 15 I think he was method because he...

Speaker 43 Was he the coach in the program?

Speaker 35 I think so.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was.

Speaker 35 There's

Speaker 35 Daniel Day-Lewis, big method guy. Jared Leto, he's just like an asshole method guy.

Speaker 35 And then the guy that plays Kendall Roy.

Speaker 54 Robert Duvall is not a method actor.

Speaker 56 Okay, no.

Speaker 24 It's the other guy, Sonny.

Speaker 7 Give me Sonny.

Speaker 7 No.

Speaker 29 Wait, what was your last thing you said there?

Speaker 35 Jeremy Strong, the guy from

Speaker 35 the profession. He's a psycho-method actor.
But I think that if either one of those two guys tried to go method on the John Daly, tried again to characterize him, I think they'd die before filming.

Speaker 7 Yes, James Kahn.

Speaker 19 James Kahn, I believe.

Speaker 4 Can you look up if he was method acting? Because

Speaker 20 he was the coach in the program.

Speaker 68 He was also the Dot and Elf.

Speaker 24 Yeah, that was method acting.

Speaker 60 As far as I can tell.

Speaker 4 Method acting. Kahn, son, never forgot.

Speaker 19 Learned the method.

Speaker 21 We learned the method and stayed for five years.

Speaker 30 I don't know if that means it.

Speaker 35 I don't think he's a method acting.

Speaker 35 The new Google searches are terrible.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 59 Oh, the AI?

Speaker 40 They're so bad, dude.

Speaker 35 They're really bad. Did you see that one where someone was like, can cockroaches live inside your penis? And it's like, yes, it's very healthy to have a couple cockroaches living in your penis.

Speaker 55 We won't eat the bugs.

Speaker 35 That's bullshit. Well, if it's inside your penis,

Speaker 28 they're trying to get us to eat the bugs.

Speaker 35 Hank would be into that.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 52 Method acting in the Godfather.

Speaker 36 Marlon Brano. Yeah, see? James Kahn.

Speaker 4 That was a stupid tangent.

Speaker 45 So it's just.

Speaker 22 Oh, did you see the picture of Tiger?

Speaker 35 I did not see the picture. He's looking old.

Speaker 41 Tiger is old.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 22 But it's like one of those pictures that I think he probably will see and be like, fuck.

Speaker 21 I got to do something about this hair.

Speaker 48 So, yeah, you got to.

Speaker 24 He was playing poker with Phil Ivey.

Speaker 35 You got to cut it. Tiger's been past that stage for a long time now.
I know. Long time.

Speaker 32 Phil looks diesel.

Speaker 35 Are we in the trust tree here? We won't even include this in the pod. It might be time for me to come home.

Speaker 24 Why?

Speaker 59 What? Shave your head?

Speaker 46 Yeah, come.

Speaker 72 You're so far away from shaving your head.

Speaker 35 Oh, I don't know, man. I saw a bad angle the other day.
Of the back? I saw a bad angle the other day, yeah.

Speaker 59 You wear a hat all the time.

Speaker 35 Maybe you should just get a hat with the funny hair in it. Yeah.
The spiky hair.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 35 Maybe I'll have to go see Brian Erlacher. Yeah.
We'll see.

Speaker 35 Something has to change. Something's changing before football season.

Speaker 21 Just keep the hat on.

Speaker 35 Yeah, but then it's bad. Then it's worse when you take the hat off.
I think that's.

Speaker 35 So I was in an airport a couple weeks ago, and there was a guy that was in front of me. He was about my height.
He had about my length hair. He was maybe five years older than me.

Speaker 17 Okay.

Speaker 35 Real bald with long hair. And I was standing behind him the entire time, just thinking to myself, I'm never going to.

Speaker 57 But he looks sweet.

Speaker 35 Maybe to himself. Okay.
But I don't think, I think everybody else was like, that guy needs to do something about that. I'm not going to get.
Oh, yeah, Tiger does. Yeah.

Speaker 35 I mean, he looks jacked up, though.

Speaker 35 He looks super strong.

Speaker 12 I have a question.

Speaker 61 And this is not, I want it on the record.

Speaker 51 We love Charlie Woods.

Speaker 25 Tiger, if you ever want to come on the podcast,

Speaker 65 we'd love to have you on the podcast.

Speaker 35 Did Tiger ever do steroids?

Speaker 35 You think?

Speaker 46 Why does it get talked about, though?

Speaker 35 Everybody was like, man, this guy is just.

Speaker 7 I know, but

Speaker 45 he says it. If no one says it,

Speaker 37 just out of respect for him?

Speaker 78 Is it deference?

Speaker 35 He definitely used it to come back from stuff for sure.

Speaker 48 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 18 Oh, there you go. You did.

Speaker 18 I mean,

Speaker 16 he definitely did it. And also his whole body type changed.

Speaker 35 Yeah, I forgot we did an entire macro dosing on that. Yep.
Yep. It has been talked about.
Okay.

Speaker 8 All right. There you go.

Speaker 4 He's definitely

Speaker 22 used steroids.

Speaker 35 I think he, without a doubt, 100%

Speaker 49 used HGH to come back from injuries.

Speaker 43 I like this.

Speaker 29 Maybe this is a summer of getting all of our goats, you know, Secretariat, Tiger Woods.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 48 They all use steroids.

Speaker 51 That's fine.

Speaker 65 Because did they even have testing?

Speaker 36 Tiger Woods' people told us to shut up about his steroid use, XPJ star claims.

Speaker 60 Oh, well, that sounds like it's very reputable.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 60 Not even Tiger Woods, his people.

Speaker 35 I mean, you've never seen a golfer as strong as Tiger before. No.

Speaker 54 Bryson.

Speaker 22 And

Speaker 19 his body completely changed, and then his body completely betrayed him.

Speaker 32 Yeah. And I know the whole Navy SEALs thing.

Speaker 51 I know that whole story.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 35 Do you think Bryson used gear?

Speaker 5 Yeah, like Tiger is just just as crazy of a before-after as Barry Bonds.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 24 Pirates Barry Bonds and 49ers Barry Bonds.

Speaker 28 Okay, you have any other who's backs?

Speaker 35 No, that's my Who's Back of the Week. Okay.

Speaker 54 Yeah, there's no way they test for.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I feel like they might have recently brought it in when it became an Olympic sport.

Speaker 21 I feel like that always happens, which is the dumbest thing ever.

Speaker 35 If I was the PGA, I would never test for any drug. No.
Why? Although it'd be so funny if a golfer got suspended for smoking weed. You remember they used to do that at the Olympics? Yeah.

Speaker 35 There was a snowboarder, a snowboarder that got his silver medal taken away because

Speaker 35 he tested positive for weed, and they asked him about it. The smart move on this guy's part would just have been like, yeah, dude, I'm a fucking snowboarder.
Yeah. I smoke weed.

Speaker 35 But he was like, no, I was at a party two months ago, and I think I got some second-hand inhalation. And I apologize.
I would never smoke weed. Yeah, dude,

Speaker 35 you board on snow. You're high all the time.
That's okay. You're still really good.

Speaker 18 Yeah, that's the one sport you can do that.

Speaker 24 All right, my who's back in the week is Tommy Pham.

Speaker 24 Tommy Pham got into it

Speaker 22 with the Brewers and then did a post-game press conference where he said that he trains for this and he will go after anyone who wants to go after him.

Speaker 51 Do you want to pull it up, Max?

Speaker 3 I have it right here.

Speaker 26 I could play it.

Speaker 21 Tommy Pham is about that shit.

Speaker 56 You don't want to fuck with him.

Speaker 59 Tommy Pham was the one who slapped.

Speaker 35 Slapped the fantasy football slap. All right, listen to this.

Speaker 14 This is Tommy Pham after the game.

Speaker 79 One run ball game,

Speaker 79 close play at the plate.

Speaker 79 Actually, it wasn't even fucking close. There's a shallow fly ball at the left field.
You you would expect the left fielder to throw the base runner out on that play. But the situation at the game,

Speaker 79 you know, I

Speaker 79 third base coach sends you, you gotta go.

Speaker 79 I'm nailed out at home by a mile.

Speaker 79 I'm going to the dugout and, you know, I hear the tough guy with all the hoorah shit.

Speaker 79 So I'll never start anything, but I'll be prepared to finish it.

Speaker 79 There's a reason why I do all kinds of fighting in the offseason because I'm prepared to fuck somebody up.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 Take it as what it is. Yeah.

Speaker 43 Yeah, it just kept on escalating. You're like, oh, this is routine.

Speaker 26 I'm prepared to fuck somebody up.

Speaker 35 Dude, I want to know what kind of hoorah shit this guy was on.

Speaker 49 We also had in this game, so I would understand that most of our listeners, not national audience, would know who I'm about to talk about, but it's been a big story in Chicago.

Speaker 21 John Schriffin, the announcer for the White Sox, might be the worst announcer ever.

Speaker 32 And he took over for Benetti, right?

Speaker 21 Who went to the Tigers.

Speaker 48 He went to the Tigers.

Speaker 18 Did John Shriffin go to Syracuse?

Speaker 61 No. Okay.

Speaker 31 This guy, like, he's trying really hard, but it's just everything is awkward.

Speaker 49 So this clip is just so awkward, if you can play it, Max, of him screaming about Tommy Pham.

Speaker 28 And he's had moments where he said something like, suck on that, losers,

Speaker 22 even though the White Sox are one of the worst teams.

Speaker 27 So no one's paying attention to him, but it keeps popping up every now and then.

Speaker 30 So this is it.

Speaker 30 He's out.

Speaker 80 And Contreras is barking at him. Tommy Pham barking back.
He's not backing down. He doesn't like that.
And now home plane umpire, Edwin Jimenez, has to hold back fam.

Speaker 80 Nah, we ain't taking that.

Speaker 64 We ain't taking that from the Brewers.

Speaker 80 I don't care how many L's we got this year.

Speaker 64 We ain't taking that.

Speaker 80 That's it.

Speaker 64 No, we ain't taking that.

Speaker 35 I love that. That's like, he needs to drop as God is my witness.
He's broken him in half.

Speaker 36 Nah, we ain't taking that.

Speaker 46 We ain't taking that.

Speaker 24 Yeah, he and the Oakland A's woman are 1-2 for the worst announcers in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 35 Jake, what are your thoughts on the White Sox announcer?

Speaker 73 What was that face, Max?

Speaker 75 The JMU baseball game yesterday.

Speaker 8 Oh, that was so bad as well. That was horrible.

Speaker 43 That was very bad as well.

Speaker 7 What happened there?

Speaker 71 The green.

Speaker 31 He likes greens.

Speaker 73 There's in the tree.

Speaker 50 It was bad. It was bad.

Speaker 21 Ready for this?

Speaker 51 Oh, man.

Speaker 8 Into one.

Speaker 35 It's hit in the air to left field.

Speaker 81 And that ball is gone.

Speaker 81 Mike Mancini's favorite color is green.

Speaker 9 It landed on the green grass.

Speaker 8 Two home runs. How about that?

Speaker 73 Two runs for James Matt.

Speaker 8 How about that?

Speaker 8 What a wild.

Speaker 35 That's wild.

Speaker 24 Put that on the wild.

Speaker 2 Man, Jake is uncomfortable right now with the direction of

Speaker 24 this podcast in this moment.

Speaker 7 Bray was talking broadcast. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 He ain't taking that. He ain't taking that.

Speaker 59 Also, the Brews are like way better than the White.

Speaker 35 Yeah, I like how he just threw in there. I don't care how many L's we got this year.

Speaker 71 Yeah, no, because he knows.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 16 He knows that they're very, very bad.

Speaker 35 Also, how about Tommy Pham just completely throwing his third base coach under the bus? Oh, big time.

Speaker 49 Entirely, though.

Speaker 37 But then he kind of, you forget about it by the end when he's just like, I'll fuck him up.

Speaker 35 I'll fuck somebody up. I'll fuck somebody up.
And if my third base coach tells me something, I'll fuck him up, too.

Speaker 51 All right.

Speaker 18 Jake.

Speaker 68 uh my who's back is joey chestnut yes obviously the main event is the fourth of july and we always see the press from the hot dog eating contests but we had joey chestnut taking down some pints of ice cream at a minor league baseball game we don't really see him do other competitions so this wasn't even a competition i don't think i think it was just him doing it for fun yeah he was just pounding i think four in a minute pints of ice cream you could tell too it kind of was giving him some brain freeze yeah i mean you you have to get brain freeze from that much ice cream for sure.

Speaker 35 I think he was also eating fried fish, too. Oh, the classic fried fish and ice cream.

Speaker 45 Oh, is that real? Yeah,

Speaker 65 that was the combo?

Speaker 35 Yeah, he was eating. I think it was fried walleye.

Speaker 13 Oh, man.

Speaker 76 So, this is like the preseason for him, I guess.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's got to warm up.

Speaker 35 All right, so what happened was he ate four pints of ice cream in 60 seconds, and then he ate 36 nuggets of fried walleye in 60 seconds.

Speaker 48 Oh, that's not good on the stomach.

Speaker 8 I hope he was diped up.

Speaker 35 I feel like that's just going to cut right through you.

Speaker 8 He is.

Speaker 8 That's insane.

Speaker 45 Say it again.

Speaker 35 He ate 36 fried walleye nuggets in one minute.

Speaker 35 And that's, I believe, right after he ate the four pints of ice cream.

Speaker 16 Oh, man. Yeah, you'd want to do it reverse, I think.

Speaker 35 Yeah, you eat the fried first.

Speaker 40 Yeah, you get the ice cream to cool you down.

Speaker 63 Exactly.

Speaker 28 Try to trick your body a little bit.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 66 Also, did you guys see the story about this D3 school? Yeah.

Speaker 68 The baseball team.

Speaker 14 Yeah, we talked about it on Friday, but they...

Speaker 56 They made it to the College World Series D3 and they lost.

Speaker 59 Oh, they did lose.

Speaker 13 They went on a walk-off the other night.

Speaker 66 Yeah, to stay alive.

Speaker 35 They weren't really a school, right?

Speaker 16 They had no longer been a school.

Speaker 66 They closed a few days ago. Yeah.

Speaker 68 But they still had the baseball season.

Speaker 66 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't understand how they couldn't have just added whoever they wanted.

Speaker 35 Yeah, really. You're not a school anymore.
Right.

Speaker 6 Like, Barry Bond should have been Homer at the bat.

Speaker 35 Yeah, absolutely. Recruit anybody that you can.
Anyone that got kicked off the team. Yeah.

Speaker 35 That would kind of of rock to be just like, we are the school now.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 35 Like, this is our school.

Speaker 21 Did you guys also see this is just a random story, but I saw someone noted that Jim McElwain, which, you know, we know Jim McElwain, Central Michigan, not a shark fucker.

Speaker 21 Apparently, he's got a lifetime sponsorship with Coors Light.

Speaker 35 Lifetime. Yeah.
We need to get on that.

Speaker 18 Pretty sick.

Speaker 21 They provide him with a Coors Light vending machine inside his house. That's awesome.

Speaker 51 Still monthly.

Speaker 35 That's awesome. That's great.
We should get on that. What a badass.
Lifetime sponsorship. Yeah.

Speaker 30 We need that vending machine.

Speaker 35 Let's do it.

Speaker 61 Yes.

Speaker 19 Okay, let's get to our interview with CJ McCollum, and then we will do lottery ball and some wrap-up after that.

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Speaker 26 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest, a guest who we should have had on a lot sooner since the last time we had him on because I think it was like a highly acclaimed This Guy Rocks interview that we did.

Speaker 6 It is CJ McCollum from the CJ McCollum show from the NBA.

Speaker 26 He plays for the Pelicans now. Last time we had him on, he was on the Blazers.

Speaker 49 But CJ, I want to start by apologizing.

Speaker 26 Bad job by us because the first time you were on, everyone's like, we love C.J. McCollum.

Speaker 40 I still get the Hezzy Hay tweets.

Speaker 26 So this was a bad job, but I'm happy that you're back on.

Speaker 25 We can talk about the finals and talk about some ball.

Speaker 81 No, I'm happy to be back on, man. That was a good time.

Speaker 81 That was a really good time in my life, too.

Speaker 81 We were in the city. I was young.
I was on the Blazers. And now it's a good time in my life.
I'm a little older. I'm in New Orleans.

Speaker 81 I get stopped in the street when I'm in the city. People at Eurostaff and me hit me with Hezzy.

Speaker 67 You got to go back on.

Speaker 81 You got to go back on the pod. I'm like, eventually I'm going to get back on, man, for sure.
Yeah.

Speaker 35 Yeah. The step back to freedom.

Speaker 7 Step back to freedom. That was a good one.
Yeah.

Speaker 35 The people love CJ McCall. And you're a wine mogul, too.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 81 I tried, man. I tried my best.
You see me sipping some Chardonnay right now. For those that don't know, this is for the free promo, baby.
There we go.

Speaker 81 I'm sipping some Chardonnay right now. We got Rose Chardonnay, Pinot, Blonde, Blanc.

Speaker 35 Maybe you can educate me because I'm not much of a Chardonnay guy. I'm more of like a Mad Dog 2020 guy myself.

Speaker 35 But I'll drink any kind of wine, but I always say, don't give me the Chardonnay because I don't like the oakiness to it. What's a good, like, Fisher price, my first Chardonnay?

Speaker 81 Well, I can just send you one to keep it a buck with you. But I think the cool thing about Chardonnay is it's an acquired taste.
And I didn't like Chardonnay for a long time.

Speaker 81 And we were in the bubble and Mello had some white burgundy. And Mello was like, yo, you got to try this white burgundy.
I'm like, Mel, I like Pinots. I like calves.
I like bubbles.

Speaker 81 I like rosé, but I'm not messing with Chardonnay. He's like, you got to try this white burgundy.
I tried the white burgundy and it was so fire.

Speaker 81 I was like, I got to, I got to continue to figure out ways to try Chardonnays that are similar to this.

Speaker 81 And then I ended up making a Chardonnay in partnership with Adelsein that is more reminiscent of white burgundy. So not as oaky, it's smooth.
You can like living in New Orleans is

Speaker 81 mad hot. So figuring out the balance between when to drink Pinot and when to drink like more refreshing drinks like Chard and Rose, but it's not for everybody.

Speaker 81 But if you drink the right Chard, it'll change your life.

Speaker 44 All right, I might have to try.

Speaker 62 Yeah. All right.
So that's awesome that you're a father now, too.

Speaker 51 So congrats on that.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 43 A lot has changed.

Speaker 24 A wine mogul.

Speaker 25 We wanted to have you on talk a little ball, talk a little finals.

Speaker 78 Let's start with your, do you have an official prediction?

Speaker 49 And then we can kind of unpack from there and figure out how you got there and how both these teams got there.

Speaker 81 Yeah. Yeah.
I was, I was talking to a good friend of mine, Coach Weiss, who coached me at Lehigh yesterday while I was pushing a stroller. Crazy.
I got two kids and I'm married and life is good.

Speaker 81 And I thought to myself, this is going to be a great finals. I got to get to a game.
I got to get to a game in Boston. I got to try to get to a game in Dallas.
I think it's Boston's series to lose.

Speaker 81 I think it's their series to lose. Christophe should be back.
They've had the best record all year. They got

Speaker 81 the Jays, right? Jason and Jalen. They got great role players.

Speaker 81 They got great supporting cast. They got a coach who's fiery.
I love Peyton Pritchard.

Speaker 81 I think

Speaker 81 it's their series to lose. And I will say this, though.

Speaker 81 I think Boston wins in six, but if it's a one-possession game, give me Dallas.

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 81 Boston's got to win by two, three possessions. They got to have a lead late in that fourth quarter.
They got to have a comfortable lead.

Speaker 81 By comfortable, I mean multiple possessions, or they're in trouble because Luca and Kyrie are not to be played with.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 45 Yeah. So what is it about Luca?

Speaker 26 We actually, I think everyone in this room has, I think I have Boston in seven, PFT has five, Hank has six.

Speaker 40 But what is it about Luca that makes him so impossible to guard?

Speaker 26 Because you've obviously played against him.

Speaker 61 Like,

Speaker 39 what specifically does he do that is so elite compared to anyone else on the court?

Speaker 81 I think it's a combination of things, man. Like, he's heavy, right?

Speaker 81 You know, with respect to the heavy people out there, he's got good size.

Speaker 73 That's a nice way of saying fat.

Speaker 16 He's heavy.

Speaker 35 I know, but respect all, we do have heavy listeners.

Speaker 11 You know, no, but heavy, heavies, like, Drew Holiday is a great defender.

Speaker 62 Drew Holiday cannot, I don't think, can guard Luca for the entire series because he's Luca's heavy.

Speaker 81 Luca is heavy, man, and he's a good, healthy heavy, like strong, sturdy. He's still quick.

Speaker 81 He has a great change of speed, great balance, great patience,

Speaker 81 amazing step back, and he's not afraid of the moment. I think what a lot of people don't realize is Luca turned pro at like 13.

Speaker 81 Luca's been playing pro since he was, you know, a middle schooler, basically. He skipped a lot of steps compared to what we do in the States, and he began hitting big shots at 14, 15, 16 years old.

Speaker 81 Led his team to a year league championship as a as a youngster, right? Like he's, he's not afraid of the moment. He's not afraid of the bright lights.
He loves it.

Speaker 81 They play better on the road because I think he likes tormenting the crowd. And I just think from a versatility standpoint, he's like six, eight.
I don't know his weight.

Speaker 81 I mean, he's got to be at least 245, maybe heavier.

Speaker 81 Healthy body fat. And he's in great shape.
And I think that's the thing that a lot of people didn't realize is Luca is heavy, hard to guard. He can lean on you.
He can post you up.

Speaker 81 He can get you on his back and make different types of moves around the pain area. He loves to step back.
He's going to hunt matchups, but he's in great shape.

Speaker 81 He's hitting big shots down the stretch of fourth quarters. High usage.
First quarters are basically his. Kai takes over second and third, and then it's take turns into fourth.

Speaker 81 But I mean, he's just, he's a wizard with the ball. He's going to have high volume, and there's a reason why he averaged 35 points a game, nine rebounds, nine assists, basically 35, 10, and nine.

Speaker 81 He can control the entire game.

Speaker 81 for four quarters. Yeah.

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 35 He's also very good at drawing fouls, too.

Speaker 35 He draws contact in a very, very smart way that I don't think I don't think a lot of players are on his same level in terms of knowing when he's about to get fouled, getting them off balance, and then using that while still like maintaining his own shot form as best as he can to try to get a three-point play out of it.

Speaker 35 Like he's not, sometimes you see guys that like set up the foul, but he sets it up in a way where he makes sure that he has a good look at the basket after he gets fouled too.

Speaker 35 Is that something that you know going into it? Like he's going to try to get you off balance?

Speaker 81 Yeah, it's like a running joke with him and B, a lot of those guys, they start the game with eight to 10 points, right? You know, they're going to have eight to 10 free throws.

Speaker 81 They basically establish rhythm early. You can't touch them.
They manipulate the defense the entire game. They can get you on their hip.
They got pump fakes. They got pivots.
They got pump fakes.

Speaker 81 They got pivots over and over again as the game progresses. And then it's about gameplay and discipline when you're going against those types of guys.
And you can get frustrated on tough makes.

Speaker 81 You know, it's a make or miss league, and there's going to be a lot of tough makes throughout the game.

Speaker 81 There's going to be a lot of questionable situations in which he's, you know, maybe foul baiting or whatever they like to call it, quote unquote, but he's a smart player.

Speaker 81 He knows how to, he knows how to get what he wants out there. And once he gets you off balance, it's all she wrote.

Speaker 35 Yeah. And obviously they've got two great players.
The two guards are going to be impossible to stop both of them. You just can't do it.

Speaker 35 Like you said, you have to build a lead, not let them get to a late-game situation where they can put the ball in one or two guys' hands and win it.

Speaker 35 But in terms of the role players on Dallas, who do you think is the most important outside of Kyrie and Luca?

Speaker 81 I mean, I like Derek Lightman. I mean, obviously they got other guys.
You know, TJ Washington has been great. Gaffney's been great.

Speaker 81 I think this may be a Tim Hardaway Jr. series.

Speaker 81 But if you really look at the last series in terms of what changed the game, is their ability to defend, you know, basically switching one through four, sometimes one through five.

Speaker 81 Kyrie was great defensively, but Lively really was amazing, right? I think he didn't miss a shot in the conference finals.

Speaker 81 He altered tons of shots he he continues to put rim pressure on the defense by his ability to roll and get behind the defense and pick and rolls when luca and kai come off he always finds himself behind the defense if they switch he makes him pay with lobs and and offensive rebounds but i think he's a huge huge piece because not only is he great at finishing around the basket but he makes great decisions in the pick and roll when they hit him in the pocket he's one of the best on their team at figuring out when to drive when to go weak side and kind of connect and He made a killing throughout this playoffs on just playing smart basketball and being athletic.

Speaker 43 Yeah. All right.

Speaker 78 So, and and then the Celtics, it does feel like they're the favorite, but they've, it's kind of twisted into like they can say they're the underdog just because people are like, hey, look, they had no one to play in the East.

Speaker 26 They ran through it.

Speaker 62 They haven't been tested, so to speak.

Speaker 26 I still think they're the better team, but is there anything to say for the fact that they haven't had like that tough playoff series where they've been pushed to make some changes and counteract and like, all right, you threw this at us.

Speaker 2 Now we got to throw this at you.

Speaker 73 Is there any reality to that or is that just completely overstated and it doesn't matter?

Speaker 49 They've handled their business.

Speaker 81 I think it's completely overstated for them, mainly because of the fact that they've all been there before. Outside of

Speaker 81 guys in rotation, this team has been to the conference finals five out of the last seven years. They were in the finals two years ago.
They had a lead on the...

Speaker 81 Champion Warriors and their experience. Like, they know what it takes to win a series.
They know what it takes to lose a series. It's not like shell shock, like, oh my goodness, we're in the finals.

Speaker 81 Like, oh, I've never seen this before. They've been here before.
And the second time around, it's when you really earn your stripes, right? Like the first time around, it's all new. It's fresh.

Speaker 81 You're trying to figure out the balance between tickets for family, like going through all of that stuff. Not that I've played in it, but I've been to the finals and I see.

Speaker 81 how much media is credentialed. I see how many interviews they got to do.
It's open practices. It's, it's, it's like the Super Bowl.
It's just, it's a big show up into the game.

Speaker 81 And I think think if you're not used to it, it can be mentally and physically draining. I think they've all trained for it.

Speaker 81 They all have a better understanding of how they had to kind of prepare for this. They got a champion on their team, Andrew Holiday.

Speaker 81 Derek White played for the Spurs. He's been across the league.
Like he's mature.

Speaker 81 The Jays, obviously, Christas Borzingis has played all across Europe. He's been in the NBA.

Speaker 81 He hasn't played in like a real big playoff moment like this, but I think playing with all those guys, it's helpful. And I really don't think it matters.

Speaker 81 If anything, they're just just going to be more fresh, more ready to go, home court advantage. The Jeters will be gone by the first time out, like Draymond said.

Speaker 35 Yeah. Yeah.
Is there any sort of advantage that they're going to get because Chris Stapps hasn't played in a long time? So Dallas doesn't have any like fresh tape on him.

Speaker 35 Is that going to make any difference whatsoever? Like, they haven't seen that look in the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 81 That's a good point. I mean, that's a good point.
I think. Good point.
Thank you. I think it's.

Speaker 81 I think it's a coin flip, right? Like, because

Speaker 81 Boston has played well without guys all year. They've been without Rosingis.
They've been without Drew Holiday at times.

Speaker 81 They figured out a way to kind of just keep moving. Al Hofford is a vet.
He's a pro. He's going to figure it out.
He's going to hit big shots. He's going to defend.

Speaker 81 I'm really just worried about Christophs because he hasn't played in so long. He's just jumping into the finals.
Like, if you really think about that, that's the part that's going to be interesting.

Speaker 81 And I'm not talking about offensively. I'm talking about defensively, conditioning-wise.
having to guard Kyrie and Luca in switches constantly.

Speaker 81 You know, everybody talks about Kyrie's returning to Boston, which is great. And it's going to be fun to see like the response that he gets and how he kind of plays through that.

Speaker 81 But Luca and Brzingis played together and it didn't go well.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 81 I think if you know anything about Luca, he takes things very personally. And

Speaker 81 this is a chance for him to

Speaker 81 really beat a guy he played with and wasn't able to necessarily get over the hump with.

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 46 So, all right.

Speaker 78 So the injury thing is an interesting one because we're sitting on our couch.

Speaker 26 We're idiots.

Speaker 6 I'm always always like, oh, why do they need, you know, like they've been practicing all Kristoff's been practicing for the last two weeks.

Speaker 22 He should be fine.

Speaker 26 But what is the difference in between, if you're coming back from injury, practicing and then getting into actual game minutes and like how quickly you get tired when you make that transition?

Speaker 81 Yeah, it's tough. And I've been fortunate or not so fortunate to have some injuries, but been able to come back from them and transition into return to play.
And it's difficult for everybody.

Speaker 81 And it's one one thing to return to play in a regular season game,

Speaker 81 it's another thing to return to play in the playoffs.

Speaker 81 And it's a whole nother level up to return to play in the finals where no matter what type of conditioning you're getting, no matter what type of live contact you're getting, those stakes aren't the same, right?

Speaker 81 Like you're not, you can't simulate a switch with Luca going against the backups in Boston or going against the coaching staff or the player development staff in a, in a conditioning league game where it's basically a lot of guys that are in the rotation and then you're going mixing in some coaches.

Speaker 81 You're getting switched on to Kyrie on the main stage for all the Marbles for the 18th banner in Boston. Like, this is completely like there's no, there's no comparison.

Speaker 81 And I think he'll be fine because he's a pro and he's had a lot of time to kind of adjust. And the way he plays, he shoots jumpers, he posts up a little bit, he dunks.
They got a lot of help.

Speaker 81 It's not like they're just going to say, Christoph's go win us the game. Like he's going to be playing on a good team and kind of playing a role.

Speaker 81 So that'll make things easier, but it's just difficult to translate and i think it's going to take some time from a rhythm standpoint but also for boston's rotation they just went through two series or three series without him right the rotation was set you know guys are playing heavy minutes daughters are playing basically 40.

Speaker 81 al horford was great he hit seven threes in one of those games like they're going to have to change the rotation and i'm just curious to see how the players respond to that from a rhythm standpoint as they were used to something and now there's going to be a little change.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 35 So if you're if you're coming back from injury and your conditioning isn't to the point where it should be if you had played like an entire season without this time off, what does that look like in a game?

Speaker 35 And I'm not talking about like putting your hand up being like, Coach, take me out for a little bit. I'm tired.

Speaker 35 Because I assume that guys, if they're in the NBA Finals, a lot of times they'll want to stay in the game no matter what. But what does that look like for a player when they're getting tired?

Speaker 35 Like, what's the first thing that goes? Like, for me, if I'm playing pickup, I just kind of stop guarding. I just kind of stopped playing defense entirely.

Speaker 35 And I hope that my guy doesn't run around too much. Or I'll

Speaker 35 be like, hey, I got to tie my shoe. That sort of thing.
But

Speaker 35 what does that look like in a game?

Speaker 81 It's actually hilarious, you're stalling. I think it's, I mean, similar in the NBA, right? Like, you just more turnovers, bad passes, bad misses.

Speaker 81 Instead of like a close miss, they're just bad air balls, wide left, wide right, super long,

Speaker 81 um,

Speaker 81 longer timeouts, dumb fouls. Like, you'll just start to see, like, oh, like, that was a stupid play.
Like, oh, he must be tired. Like, the fatigue is kind of kicking in.

Speaker 81 But I think historically, especially when you get to this stage, we're coming off the injury, you're either on a minutes restriction or they change the substitution patterns.

Speaker 81 Where when I came back from injury, I had a collapsed lung, I've had broken, broken foot, broken back, torn poplitius.

Speaker 81 You usually know, like, all right, I got a four minute streak stretch right here where they're going to play me four minutes and then I'm coming out. I'm first coming.
I'm coming out.

Speaker 81 First foul, first timeout, whatever, I'm coming out. And when you come back from the injury, you have to govern yourself the way you look at them.

Speaker 81 I mean, like a couple of times this year, I came back against the Sixers and I was on a minute restriction. I was like, I'm good.
Like, let me go. And it was like, no, it's 26 minutes.

Speaker 81 And I'm like, nah, I'm good. And I played like a six and a half or seven minute stretch and it was supposed to be five.
And at the six minute mark, I was like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 81 Or I was like, yo,

Speaker 9 foul. Somebody.

Speaker 81 Right.

Speaker 81 Foul. Like, we, we, we need to, I need to come out of this game before I mess this up for everybody.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 39 My move is I just yell, someone stop ball.

Speaker 22 And then I pick up whoever switches and I I just hold their shirt and I'm just like let's just hang out and not walk all the way back.

Speaker 35 It's like don't be a hero man. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 18 Yeah, let's just hang out here for a second and then we'll get back when we get back.

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Speaker 26 Who is who's the one guy in the NBA who has like a motor that you can't believe that like doesn't come out of games, but also just never gets fatigued?

Speaker 81 I would say Steph's got really good conditioning. He just always running around chewing his mouthpiece.

Speaker 18 Yeah, how annoying is that when you just have, when you just won't stop running?

Speaker 81 Chewing his mouthpiece, laughing, dancing, shimmy, and it's like it's really frustrating. But you could just tell that he prides himself on conditioning hard work reps.
I'd say the most

Speaker 81 JJ Reddick when JJ played, like the first quarter was insane. Just plays for him, illegal screens from DeAndre, illegal screens from Blake.

Speaker 81 But just give him the ball for like five straight minutes, then he would touch the ball for three quarters.

Speaker 81 The one that like was super impressive, Russell Westbrook.

Speaker 81 So, prime, like prime russ, when he played like 37 to 42 minutes a game, and you know, when he was in triple-double mode, he played so hard for so long, it was impressive because he's just rebound, pushing, yelling, screaming.

Speaker 81 And people don't understand, like, it takes energy to yell and scream. Like, a couple times I overcelebrated,

Speaker 81 and I was like, damn, I'm tired. I shouldn't have did that.

Speaker 81 Yeah, it takes away your energy, but like this guy, his motor is unbelievable for 82 games, like playing in the middle of nowhere. He could be playing a pickup game in the backyard.
Like his energy is

Speaker 81 always at a level that's super impressive.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 35 I feel like Luca gets stronger the angrier he gets.

Speaker 35 He's expending energy, right?

Speaker 35 He's using calories to yell at people, but he feeds off that. Damn, Samba.

Speaker 81 Yeah,

Speaker 81 he feeds off of that. Hookah Luca.
No, I think

Speaker 81 if you really look at how his career has kind of progressed, he came in like baby face, you know, a little thin.

Speaker 81 He started eating good in the neighborhood that American foot started treating him well. And then he came back a couple years where you see him training, running stairs overseas in Slovenia,

Speaker 81 running the stairs.

Speaker 81 You see his game kind of go to another level in terms of the range on his jumper, the step backs. Even in that last series against the Timberwolves, he started the game hitting like 30 footers.

Speaker 81 Like, he was sent a message: I've really been working on my craft. Like, I'm really about to just take over this league.
And this is an impressive run.

Speaker 81 And people don't remember, Jay Kidd said he was already better than Dirk. You know, he's 25 years old, and Dirk has the logo.
They got a picture of Dirk shooting the fadeaway, right?

Speaker 81 And they're already talking about he's better than Dirk. He ain't want to run yet.
And Dirk beat the king.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 81 Powers. Like, so this is

Speaker 81 telling you how special this kid is.

Speaker 81 This man is a real problem, and

Speaker 81 he's still not really in his prime. He's only 25.

Speaker 39 Yeah, that is true. It is crazy.

Speaker 6 He's only 25.

Speaker 22 I mean, Jason Tatum also, what, 26 or 25 as well?

Speaker 78 Do you think Jason Tatum's disrespected?

Speaker 73 Or is it that he's right where he kind of needs to be?

Speaker 26 And if he can, because this could be the summer of Tatum, if he wins this championship and then he's going to go play in the Olympics, and then I think he's up for the Super Max right after.

Speaker 78 Like, this could be a hell of a four-month stretch for Jason Tatum.

Speaker 81 This is huge for him and his legacy. And I think he's a Hall of Famer or whatever.

Speaker 81 You know, you can more 50-point games than Larry Bird, more career playoff points than Larry Bird, five straight trips to the conference finals, two finals appearances.

Speaker 81 This is the one they probably win. I think he's where he needs to be right now because he doesn't have the ring yet.
And people kind of like really value the ring.

Speaker 81 Those that are like real hoopers know Tatum is good. I think the casual fan is anti-Boston.

Speaker 81 Like a lot of people just hate that he plays in Boston and that they have so much respect and everything that comes with that.

Speaker 81 But I think if you're like a normal fan, like who really understands the game or if you hoop against him, you know Tatum is cold-blooded. You respect him.

Speaker 81 You respect Jalen Brown and you understand that they have a good team. And when you're in a good team, you're held to a higher standard.

Speaker 81 They expect you to, like he said before, like they expect you to basically win every game. And it's almost as if he's supposed to win this championship as opposed to him like going and taking it.

Speaker 81 It's like he's supposed to win and if he doesn't he got beat by Luca

Speaker 81 and it's like the narrative is going to shift as opposed to saying like he had a great year. They won 64 games.

Speaker 81 Jalen Brown is the highest paid player in NBA history and he's about to become the highest paid player in NBA history and then you're going to have two of the highest paid players in NBA history on the same team banner 18 in Boston two black guys.

Speaker 81 Like it's, I mean, if you think about it, like it's a really cool situation for the Celtics and their fan base to be able to say like we have a great young core who we weren't sure was going to work now it's working and we're this close to winning a championship and if the the worst thing you can say about them is that you know jason doesn't get enough love but he just averaged 30 and he was first team all nba right like

Speaker 26 what more do you want yeah and i i think i mean it is the dumbest thing we do as sports fans i i am definitely guilty of it i think we all are where if like you play on a better team you then get taken something away from you where it's like, well,

Speaker 43 wouldn't you want the best players to play on the best teams?

Speaker 26 I'd rather see that than have an incredible player struggle with just no one on their team. And you have to sit there and be like, well,

Speaker 25 I think they're really good, but they just got bums around them.

Speaker 43 So it's a weird thing we do where it's like, oh, he has too much help.

Speaker 22 It's like, who cares?

Speaker 81 Yeah, I mean, I would equate it to like football, like

Speaker 81 Deion Sanders, Barry Sanders in Detroit. And then you look at the flip side, Christian McCaffrey, right? Like how he was viewed before he got to the Niners.

Speaker 81 He's like, oh, he's great, but they lose all the time. And it's like, well, yeah, his team's not very good.
Yeah. Then you go to the Niners and it's like, oh, it's not fair.

Speaker 81 He has all of these weapons. And I'm like, no, he's still a monster.
He's just in a better situation.

Speaker 81 It's not his fault that they got great linemen, a great defense, great threats at the receiver spot. Like, he's still a monster.
It doesn't change that.

Speaker 22 Yeah, it's actually the Barry Sanders versus Emmett Smith.

Speaker 44 It happened at the same time.

Speaker 26 Yeah, where it's like, you know, there were Emmett Smith people. It's like, how could you be an Emmett Smith person if you have your eyes and a brain in your head?

Speaker 26 Like, yeah, he has the rings and he has the records, but like Barry Sanders is incredible.

Speaker 25 He, that's what he does.

Speaker 41 Yeah, so

Speaker 35 you were, you were talking earlier about some guys setting some pretty devastating illegal screens.

Speaker 35 From your perspective, because the NBA is all about responding to like switching on screens, picking rolls. That's, to me, like the teams that have the most success consistently.

Speaker 35 That's usually how they do it. Who is who's the best at setting illegal picks?

Speaker 81 Shout Shout out to my boy Nerk in Phoenix. Nerk is illegal, Draymond, one of the best illegal screeners of all time.

Speaker 81 Take it back a little bit.

Speaker 81 Omar Ace,

Speaker 81 he was a good screen setter. What's the big fella's name in Minnesota who had a huge head?

Speaker 81 He played with Kevin Love.

Speaker 81 He was a great screen setter.

Speaker 81 Looking at like today, it's funny because there's not a lot of actual fives. Shout out to my guy, JV.
JV is a great legal screen setter. He's had some really, really good screens.

Speaker 81 There's not a lot of true fives. What about Bam?

Speaker 28 Bam gets real wide on his screens.

Speaker 81 Bam gets wide on his screens, but he likes to get out. He likes to slip out so he can get dunks.

Speaker 81 He will make contact

Speaker 81 when it's there. I'm trying to think.

Speaker 81 It's not a lot of, like, when Zebo played, when Marcus

Speaker 81 played,

Speaker 81 those were like, when I first got into the league, that's when you had real fives. We had seven foot four, four men who posted up.
I played with Robin Lopez, great screensetter.

Speaker 81 LaMarcus was a really good screensetter, especially when he could, you know, roll to that mid-8 and knock it down.

Speaker 35 Boogie, Boogie was a good screenetter, too.

Speaker 81 Boogie. Boogie was a good screensetter.

Speaker 28 Are there ever times when you're playing in a game that someone forgets to yell out a screen?

Speaker 81 Yeah, all the time. Really?

Speaker 43 All right.

Speaker 43 Yeah, because I mean, I didn't know if like that was like so, you guys are obviously, you're so fucking good, but like it will happen not to relate it to pickup, but it will happen in pickup.

Speaker 56 And you'll be like, where the fuck?

Speaker 73 Why didn't you just say there's a screen?

Speaker 70 You just get absolutely crushed.

Speaker 62 So what happens when someone forgets to yell out that there's a screen coming?

Speaker 81 It depends on who didn't yell it out, right?

Speaker 81 Like if it's, if it's one of the OGs or vet, like somebody that you know historically yells it out and you either didn't hear them or they forgot, then you kind of give them a pass.

Speaker 81 But if it's like a, you know, it depends on the type of player, you're going to be like, yo, like, you can't, you can't be leaving me out here like that. Like, that's right.

Speaker 81 Like, you're going to get me hurt, or,

Speaker 81 you know, something worse can happen. You know what I mean? Especially if you're picking up and you turn and turning and they got that blind screen in the backcourt to try to knock you out.

Speaker 81 Like, that's the type of screen back in the, like, somebody like Patrick Beverly, right? Patrick is picking up full court.

Speaker 81 You want to get a blind screen on him just to get him off the guard to kind of free you up. And those are the times where,

Speaker 81 you know, if you've got the the ball, you're just trying to set them up and run them right into the screen. And if you're guarding the ball, you want somebody to yell out, like,

Speaker 81 screen coming, get back, or something. But it's happened.
I've been hit a few, like, it's happened, and you're just looking like, who is closest? Like, bro, why, why are you calling it out, bro?

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 35 When you're on offense, have you ever called out fake screens? Like, throwing them off their game, be like, pick right, pick right, switch, switch.

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 81 people put me on game that he used to do that all the time, or he would point like,

Speaker 81 set it right there, set it right there, and then just take off. And I was like,

Speaker 8 like, nobody is there. Yeah.

Speaker 81 A few times, and I played against guys where a lot of teams will say black or red, like, there's a call for switch, and the other team would run up and be like, black. Yeah.

Speaker 81 You'll think you're guarding, like, you'll think that you're supposed to switch, and it's the other team calling it. Um,

Speaker 81 I've seen that happen a lot of times, which is funny.

Speaker 81 And then you break down the coverage, and you're like, yo, I heard the call, but it wasn't, it wasn't your teammate calling, it was the other team.

Speaker 81 So, stuff like that, just trying to manipulate the game and get an advantage is an important part of the game for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 40 Speaking of that, you play with Jose Alvarado.

Speaker 39 Does he do his Grand Theft Alvarado thing in practice?

Speaker 23 And how much does that piss everyone off?

Speaker 81 He does. He tries to do it in practice all the time.
He picks up full part.

Speaker 81 Good dude, though. Works hard, man.

Speaker 62 Oh, it's awesome when he pulls it off, but I would imagine if he does it in practice, he would piss you off.

Speaker 81 Yeah, I mean, he's never gotten it with that in practice before, but

Speaker 81 he does pick up full in practice. He's talking trash.
He's getting after it, he's gotten a couple back tips. But the Grand Theft Auto, I think my favorite one is the one he got on Braun.

Speaker 81 He got Braun, and Braun was pissed.

Speaker 9 Uh,

Speaker 81 he was pissed, like looking around his teammates, like,

Speaker 8 yeah, you got it.

Speaker 43 Yeah, that's what you got to call it out.

Speaker 26 Someone's got to call it out, but they don't see it.

Speaker 28 What I, I, I, I can't remember if when you first came on, I asked you this question, and maybe I did, and it's just a repeat, but I don't care.

Speaker 28 Uh, when you were playing with Dame in all these big-time moments,

Speaker 62 could you, did you know when it was dame time?

Speaker 43 Could you, like, was there something that like flipped in his head or his eyes?

Speaker 18 Or like, would he say, hey, CJ, just so you know, it's dame time?

Speaker 8 Or like, look at your watch.

Speaker 81 Sometimes you can see the look in his eyes or just time and score, like filling the game out, feeling the momentum. Or

Speaker 81 depending on what play he calls, sometimes like we'd be, he'd be calling the game, we'd be calling plays back and forth, and then he'd call diagonal fists or he'd call a play, which diagonal fists for us was basically

Speaker 81 a wing goes and sets a screen for the five man. The five man runs up into a mid pick and roll and he kind of gets downhill or he shoots a three.
When he starts calling his own plays or his own number

Speaker 81 or no play, and he just pulls up from 40, I'm like, yeah, he about to turn up. Or if it was a momentum swinging play, right?

Speaker 81 Like they hit a shot, he gets a layup and one, and he starts celebrating or he yells because he never really celebrates until the game's over.

Speaker 81 If he yells or motherfucker, like he starts doing that, I'm like, oh yeah, he about to get in his bag, like he's about to really turn up. Um, and then he might start

Speaker 81 tapping his wrist, you know, but he was serious.

Speaker 35 And there's nothing you can do in the same time, nothing you can do at all. What's the farthest you ever saw him pull up from in practice?

Speaker 81 Half court, he shot, he shot the ball from half court in practice a lot of times, or a step in a step in front of half court, just coming off

Speaker 81 natural, natural shot, not even throwing the ball. Impressive, man.
He got he gets like really good, like

Speaker 81 flexion on the under on the wrist, good dip, strong ball ball just kind of flows off. It's an effortless shot.

Speaker 28 Yes, fun to watch. It's crazy to watch.

Speaker 35 I got some New Orleans questions for you. First question,

Speaker 35 how awesome is it to be the man in New Orleans?

Speaker 41 What does that mean? Just like you're the man.

Speaker 35 Like you are, you are a star. You're on the Pelicans.

Speaker 35 You live in New Orleans, which is probably the coolest city in the United States. Just how awesome is it?

Speaker 81 I live a good life, man. I'm thankful.
I'm blessed to be in a position where I get to play a sport. I get to be in a place like New Orleans that's hungry for success um

Speaker 81 great culture great community uh great food great drinks depending on what you like uh heavy under french influence and um to be able to go from you know where we were at before i got here to to two out of three years making the playoffs to really just kind of improve i think we had the second most wins in franchise history obviously this is like saints country right but um it's it's a blessing to be able to play here in my family and i love it and like we said before man i'm just trying to take advantage of the blessings work hard and just trying to get us to, in a position to go on a real run, man.

Speaker 81 We need, we need health. We need a lot of things to kind of go our way.
But I think we're right there, man. We close to making a real run

Speaker 81 eventually. Yeah,

Speaker 35 you said the food. If I lived in New Orleans and I was on your salary, I would be fat as shit.
I would get, I would eat so much. Not fat, heavy, not very sturdy.
I would be a sturdy man.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 81 Sturdy, heavy, heavy on the heavy and strong, man. I think it's balanced, man.
Like, nothing is perfect. You got to figure out.
I always say 80-20 rule, man, like 80%, 20. I'm more like 90-10.

Speaker 81 I love french fries. I like gumbo.
I eat out once or twice a week, but Chef Joy be holding me down and just making sure I'm doing what I'm supposed to do.

Speaker 81 But it's easy to, it's easy to venture out and

Speaker 81 eat some things you're not supposed to eat, especially out here.

Speaker 62 Yeah, I read an article that you, after the season, you do 21 days, no basketball.

Speaker 7 Now, does that, like, if you were walking, like you were saying, you were walking, you know, with the stroll, if you're walking by a park in the 21 days and a kid's playing and they're like, CJ, take a shot, you won't do it.

Speaker 81 Listen,

Speaker 81 that's a tough dilemma. So, like,

Speaker 81 I normally don't, I don't work out. So, like, shooting, I don't count shooting.

Speaker 81 So, like, if a kid was like, shoot the ball, whatever, I'd shoot it or like them old school commercials, I might try to go dunk it if the court was low or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 81 Like,

Speaker 81 two weeks into my break, I took my son to the gym and it was just way too hot outside. And he was like, too hot, too hot that day.
So I took him to the gym and

Speaker 81 he's like, ball, daddy, ball. So I started shooting.
That was in my slides, but like, I don't count that because I'm not actually working out.

Speaker 81 I'm just messing around, like, just playing with my son, having fun. Yeah.

Speaker 81 I don't count it.

Speaker 28 Okay, that's that's like the that's the height of my workout.

Speaker 55 So that's good.

Speaker 30 You're like, I don't count shooting.

Speaker 22 It's like if I shoot, we have our basketball court here.

Speaker 55 I shoot 100 jumpers.

Speaker 26 I'm like, man, that was a hell of a workout.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 that was that was my whole day.

Speaker 63 Got my cardio.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I really did it.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I really did it.

Speaker 81 100 is crazy. That's it.

Speaker 43 I'll do, I'll do more. It just depends on the time I have.

Speaker 62 We got the machine, so we'll fire it up.

Speaker 12 Yeah, what do you

Speaker 8 got a gun? Yeah, we got the gun.

Speaker 26 Yeah, we got the gun.

Speaker 35 What do you consider a workout? How many shots?

Speaker 81 100 would not be a workout.

Speaker 81 I mean, my warm-up is like 100 makes just to get loose.

Speaker 8 So So,

Speaker 35 how many do you make when you shoot?

Speaker 8 I'll make like 50 of them.

Speaker 35 It's pretty good.

Speaker 81 Say like 300 plus, depending on time. Like

Speaker 81 if I'm doing a

Speaker 81 if I'm doing a 45-minute workout,

Speaker 81 unless it's 10 or 15 minutes of ball handling, I'm getting 400 to 500 easy.

Speaker 9 Okay.

Speaker 81 Easy. And that's like movement.
That's off the bounce. That's catch and shoot.
I might finish with 100, 150 makes.

Speaker 35 This might be a dumb question, but have you ever, have you ever gone shooting and just one day you suck at basketball?

Speaker 41 You're just not good.

Speaker 81 You have days where you don't shoot the ball well. Like I've had days, and it's funny because the casual won't understand, like getting a gym with a pro, and it's completely different.

Speaker 81 Like a bad shooting day for me, I'm probably making 65% of my shots. And that's like a,

Speaker 81 it's like a bad, like, I'm bricking with nobody in the gym. Empty gym,

Speaker 81 65% of them make, like, it's a bad day. Like, I'm hitting eight, nine out of ten.

Speaker 81 Like, those are like normal days. If we go do

Speaker 81 we do 10 threes a bad day i'm making 75 out of 100 that's like a terrible day like that was a bad like

Speaker 81 my my second workout i hit 75 out of 100 it was a terrible day yeah that was after like 21 days like if

Speaker 81 normal day 80 plus out of 100 and i'm talking threes

Speaker 81 when i'm shooting how i normally shoot 90 92 93 out of 100 and

Speaker 81 the

Speaker 81 like a normal nba player empty gym jumper is wet like

Speaker 81 jumper is wet you put them in like fans whatever, like, that's going to change the game a little bit. But even, like,

Speaker 81 guys that missed free throws down in treachery games, like big men that can't make free throws, like historically, pick a big man, put them in empty gym,

Speaker 81 cash.

Speaker 26 Yeah, that's I, when we had the whole NBA NFL argument, and it's a dumb argument that we should save for the middle of summer, but that was the one thing I kept going back to.

Speaker 26 I was like, if you've ever had the luck of watching an NBA player shoot in an empty gym, they literally do not miss.

Speaker 40 It's not like a, oh, oh, this is the way like they will shoot and they'll take 10 threes and they'll they'll make 95 of them, no problem.

Speaker 3 Like that's the level that they're shooting.

Speaker 28 That's the baseline of like their shooting ability.

Speaker 62 And that's like everyone on the entire team, even the last guy on the bench is still an incredible shooter.

Speaker 82 Right.

Speaker 81 Yeah, I think it's that's a tough argument because like Every NFL player can't can't hoop in the league and every hooper can't play in the NFL.

Speaker 81 But there are some NFL guys that could come over and there's some nba guys that could slide over to the nfl it's not it's not to say one sport is harder than the other or whatever the case may be there's just some incredible athletes in this world like there's some dbs there's some receivers that like i didn't see hoop and i'm like oh he got game like he's nice and there's some guys that i've seen that are just freak athletes like braun and some of those guys where you're like Like you're telling me Zion can't go play football?

Speaker 81 Like,

Speaker 81 I could go play football if he really wanted to. Like, Braun could go play.

Speaker 81 Russ, there's some guys that could go go play football, and there's some NFL guys that could slide over and be a shooting guard or a small forward. I've seen some of those guys shoot the ball.

Speaker 81 I've seen some of those guys that are athletes.

Speaker 81 This is a quarterback from Florida. Like, I've seen some of those guys move and dunk and jump.
And

Speaker 81 they'll be all right. The hard part is, you know, the contact, figuring out, like, for the for the NBA guy that goes to the NFL, like, which, is he a DB? Is he a, is he a wide receiver?

Speaker 81 Because everybody everybody ain't trying to go across that middle.

Speaker 81 It's a different ballgame.

Speaker 35 So, talk about the difference in shooting when there's an arena filled with fans. There was a very funny video that went viral last week, and it was like

Speaker 35 a guy pretending to be an NBA player, and he's like, Oh, I don't shoot well on the road. The fans are mean, and they're saying I'm bad when I'm trying to shoot.

Speaker 35 What is it about shooting in front of a hostile crowd that makes you worse at shooting? Like, what ultimately is it just not being comfortable with the gym, or is it people

Speaker 35 saying you suck? Is it people booing you? Why are players worse on the road than they are at home?

Speaker 81 I think it's a combination of things. I think it's, it's not familiar territory.
Like your routine is different. You're sleeping in a hotel.
Pre-game meal is different.

Speaker 81 If you got a chef, travel, you're on a bus. Everything is a little different.

Speaker 81 And it's not a gym you shoot in every day. And then I think the factor of it's something psychologically when someone cheers for you versus when someone booze for you, especially when you shoot.

Speaker 81 But the funny part is most of our team this year in the ruling shot better on the road than they did at home. And we had the best roll record in the NBA.

Speaker 81 i think we went 28 and 14 or something like that and my numbers side by side i shot better from three

Speaker 81 better from two

Speaker 81 on the road so it's just a matter of like

Speaker 81 routine

Speaker 81 what you do how much time you have i think at home for me personally like i shoot more at home to try to get ready for home games than i do on the road and i shoot better on the road i get less reps probably get more sleep

Speaker 81 uh but i think i get less reps for sure on game days at home. I stay after I shoot.
I go through like a shooting drill.

Speaker 81 On the road, you got like 15 minutes on the clock before you're getting kicked out of the gym because they got to set up for something else or the other teams.

Speaker 81 So I think it's a combination of things

Speaker 81 that factor in. But it's something about being booed.
Like,

Speaker 81 as opposed to, imagine when you shoot a three and you're like, three.

Speaker 81 And then when you shoot three, you're like, you suck. You're at the free throw line.
They're booing you. They're talking about your mama.
Talking about your daddy, like whatever the case may be.

Speaker 35 And at the crib, they cheering for you until like something, something doesn't go right and then they might flip this flip the switch on you depending on what market you're in yeah yeah yeah um i was just gonna say in philly they start to boo you but then they start to be nice to you to get you out of a slump true and then you turn into a really good player true great good sports sound yeah uh what's what's the status of your beef with kd that i i think it's long since squashed but we actually had a part in the original beef Because you coming on our show started that a little bit.

Speaker 81 That is like KD, my guy. We in a group chat together, and I actually need to check on him, see how you doing.

Speaker 78 Text him right now and tell him you're doing PMT and said that we'd love to have him on.

Speaker 56 He'll probably leave the group chat.

Speaker 81 I'm doing PMT.

Speaker 7 He's going to leave the group chat.

Speaker 82 They would love to have you on.

Speaker 41 Yes, watch the beef.

Speaker 21 He still watches my Instagram stories I send him, and he just.

Speaker 8 Yeah, he's just,

Speaker 43 well, no, he'll just like, or like, if I like do an Instagram story, like playing pickup, he'll just respond and be like, get this trash off the court.

Speaker 49 And then I'll send him being like, hey, you want to come on?

Speaker 26 And he'll just read it and not respond.

Speaker 9 Oh, that's him.

Speaker 73 Yeah, it hurts my feelings every time, but I also kind of laugh.

Speaker 81 That's funny. I got to ask him.
I've seen this Tinder profile that looked like it was his.

Speaker 35 Yeah, I saw that too.

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 He might be out there.

Speaker 58 All right, I have one last question.

Speaker 26 Let us know if he responds real quick, but I have one last question.

Speaker 43 This has been awesome, CJ.

Speaker 6 We definitely have to get you in person, too, in Chicago when you're when you're here next.

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Speaker 40 All right, so what is, what are we adding to our game this summer?

Speaker 26 That's one of my favorite things that every NBA player...

Speaker 26 It's kind of a cool flex being like, my game is so good, I'm going to add this little, this little niche thing,

Speaker 25 this little one move that no one's expecting.

Speaker 16 What's the one move that you're adding this year?

Speaker 81 I wouldn't necessarily say move. I'm working on, see if he responded.
He didn't respond yet.

Speaker 9 What do you say?

Speaker 81 I said it to the group. I incentived it to him directly.
He didn't respond yet. Okay.
It says six swing swing to the corner with the first comment.

Speaker 81 I'm working on paint finishing. That's that's like a real a real big point of emphasis for me.

Speaker 81 Obviously, spacing and a lot of those things play a factor, but I got to have better court awareness and understanding of like just making sure people in the right spots, keep my assistant turnover ratio right.

Speaker 81 But paint finishing is huge. I was only like 58.3% at the rim.
So I got to get better. I got to get to at least league average, which is like 65, somewhere around there.

Speaker 81 My paint shots, non-restricted area, were like less than 50, 47. So I got to get better there.

Speaker 81 And then just a lot more of what I've been doing, like shooting the ball really well, shooting threes at a high clip, being good in pick and rolls over one point per possession.

Speaker 81 And then defensively, being better in pick and roll.

Speaker 81 And like, I'm never going to be like a lockdown defender but i got to be average to above average um statistically in terms of you know what the defense is like when i'm on the floor so i think that's the that's the thing that i'm working on really just pain paint finishing you know that's going to be huge uh spacing wise floaters touch shots being smart with the nash dribbles and then just trying to impact winning okay and what what's the move that you're i mean we you gave us the hesit

Speaker 81 back to freedom is there a move in the last few years that you've been doing that like you're like man this is so much fun whenever i can pull pull this off the hessey hay is just like a classic the step back to freedom i've issued a lot of transition trades lately um

Speaker 81 i just from a lingo standpoint what can i leave you with on the transition transition take that i probably shouldn't say take that now because of uh where we're at in society but i would say

Speaker 81 a lot of transition threes um

Speaker 35 We can say transition, take that.

Speaker 48 Yeah, take that.

Speaker 8 Take that. Yeah.
Take that. Yeah, transition, take that.

Speaker 9 Transition, take take that, yeah.

Speaker 81 I love the floater, float me, float me.

Speaker 81 Uh, one of my homies, shout out to Prentice. He used to say, You got to get up early in the morning for that.
Like,

Speaker 81 you got to get up early in the morning to get to that floater because it's just like above your head, especially with Wimby.

Speaker 81 Now, like, you got to shoot the floater, you got to have a floater, you got to shoot it high because guys is coming to get all of those. So,

Speaker 81 I say the float me in the

Speaker 81 pull-up trades is a game changer.

Speaker 81 It's a shot I love. It's a shot I've mashed and I shoot a high percentage at it.

Speaker 81 but that Hezzy Hay was was a legendary.

Speaker 35 It was golden. Yeah, I feel like Kyrie does a lot of the float me too.
He's a big float me guy.

Speaker 81 Kyrie's float is crazy.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 81 Best floats the world has ever seen. Left hand, right hand, glass, cash.
He got everything.

Speaker 35 How do you stop Kyrie? Is it possible?

Speaker 81 I think it's

Speaker 81 you hope they can contain him, man. He has every skill set in the book.
Three-level score, fast, quick, in great shape.

Speaker 81 I mean, he was, I mean, he was getting 40 during during Ramadan.

Speaker 81 He was fasting and scoring 40 on people, like hungry.

Speaker 79 No water,

Speaker 9 no water, no food.

Speaker 81 Like, that's a different, that's a different type of,

Speaker 81 that's a different type of killer, man.

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 81 You got to trap him.

Speaker 81 I think OKC did a good job of taking the ball out of his hands and just trapping him, showing them different looks, just making somebody else beat you because you show one body, even if you show too late, like he's, he's too good.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 16 No, OKC did a better job than Minnesota, that's for sure.

Speaker 72 All right, well, CJ, we got to, I promise you, it will be sooner the next time you're on than this gap.

Speaker 6 And we do have to get you in person, but it's great to see you.

Speaker 4 Congrats on all the success. Two kids, wine, mogul.

Speaker 26 Also, I just looked up since we last seen you, I think you've made like $150 million.

Speaker 22 That's pretty cool.

Speaker 12 That's good, yeah.

Speaker 8 That's nice.

Speaker 8 Do you ever just look at that?

Speaker 81 do you ever look at it like oh shit because it that's is that is that what happened since we last seen each other it's it's literally i think you last were on in 2017 18 you were around 60 million for your career and now you're around 215 that's pretty nice that's pretty nice praise the lord man this is a great great world we live in man where you know if you can master something and become really good at something, do things the right way, try to lead a good life, things can turn out well for you, man.

Speaker 81 So I'm just, I'm living a dream, man. I'm really thankful.
I'm really happy and blessed. And I got two beautiful babies married.

Speaker 81 I can't complain, man. I got a Hesse hay.
I got to step back to freedom. I got to float me.
I got a transition take that.

Speaker 81 I'm sipping Chardonnay talking to you guys.

Speaker 7 What can I complain about? Yeah. Some two Aspire.

Speaker 46 Yeah.

Speaker 35 Congrats, CJ. And also, we left out the part that you're also the manager of our high-stakes fancy football league that we're in.
And Jerry O'Connell screwed up our lineup entirely last year.

Speaker 35 So that's all on him.

Speaker 35 Is he a a pain in the ass to manage? Does he like send you messages behind the scenes that we don't know about?

Speaker 81 No, no, no. He's been cool, man.
No, no real issues.

Speaker 81 This is the year where I really need to win this, man.

Speaker 81 I've put too much money into this fantasy football league to just continue to lose like this. And this is taking away from money from my Brown sweet games.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah. Should have.

Speaker 43 You had to love that Joe Flacco run.

Speaker 5 Probably felt a little dirty, but still.

Speaker 81 It was legendary, man. And, you know,

Speaker 81 it was a situation where

Speaker 81 I thought the season was over and then it just kept getting better. And then it was like too good to be true.
And then we ran into a young Ohio state killer and that was all she wrote.

Speaker 81 But it was it was a hell of a run, man. And hopefully, you know, this year we can be good.
I mean, we're going to need Chubb. I don't know if Chubb will be ready, but Chubb was Chubb was huge for us.

Speaker 81 For him to be hurt and get injured the way he did was devastating. But I love my brows.
We open up against the Dallas Cowboys. It'll be Tom Brady's first game on Fox September 8th.
We rock it, man.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that's big.

Speaker 33 I like that you got it circled.

Speaker 26 That's the sign of a true

Speaker 22 football fan when you start just ripping off your schedule sometime in July or June.

Speaker 26 You're like, yeah, we open here, then the next week's tough.

Speaker 58 It's perfect.

Speaker 26 All right, well, CJ, thanks so much, man. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 81 You guys, man, y'all have a good one. And when I get to the shy, I'll hit y'all for sure.

Speaker 35 Man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 38 When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts. That's where Snickers comes in, man.

Speaker 38 That thing is packed. Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk chocolate.
It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 38 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this: Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 38 Snickers satisfies, man.

Speaker 81 That's a winning play.

Speaker 50 Okay.

Speaker 35 That is our show.

Speaker 4 Unless we have anything else.

Speaker 21 Oh, did you guys see Lenny Kravitz said that he hasn't had sex in nine years?

Speaker 35 Yeah, he hasn't fucked in nine years. That must be really difficult for Lenny Kravitz to do that.

Speaker 4 That's insane.

Speaker 28 I would actually believe it if he has not come in nine years, but he was fucking.

Speaker 55 But he's so good at holding it.

Speaker 35 Lenny Kravitz is so hot that there's no one on earth that can make him come.

Speaker 28 Right, and he's just like, I can control it so well.

Speaker 26 Like, yeah, I'll fuck you for an hour, but then I'm just going to go home.

Speaker 35 Maybe he's just done anal.

Speaker 44 That could

Speaker 44 be it.

Speaker 35 Strictly butt stuff. He does.

Speaker 35 There's just no way. I mean,

Speaker 62 he has cooler sex than everyone else.

Speaker 35 He keeps the scarf on.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Look at him.

Speaker 21 He's doing. Is that actually Lenny Kravitz? Is that just...

Speaker 50 Lenny Kravitz might lead the league in lookalikes if you just got some tattoos.

Speaker 35 Yeah, it's either Lenny Kravitz or like a anemic Larry Fitzgerald.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 44 Is he retired?

Speaker 35 No, he never actually retired.

Speaker 35 He just kind of stopped playing football. Yeah.

Speaker 2 We got to figure out something to talk about on Wednesday because we have just no sports going on.

Speaker 35 Let's see. What do we got? What do we got in the news?

Speaker 28 Let us know what you want us to talk about.

Speaker 31 You know, we could make a list.

Speaker 4 It's not my rush war season yet, but we could make a list for everyone.

Speaker 68 We could do that headline thing.

Speaker 16 Oh, yeah, we could do the headline. The headline.

Speaker 75 We could do NFL and NBA.

Speaker 24 No.

Speaker 24 No.

Speaker 35 I like the idea of making a list.

Speaker 4 Yeah, let's make a list.

Speaker 4 We'll do it.

Speaker 6 Let us know what list you want us to make.

Speaker 35 How about

Speaker 35 Hank's top 10 patriots of all time?

Speaker 8 Ooh.

Speaker 32 No, let's get, yeah,

Speaker 6 tell us, the AWLs, let us know what list you want sports related, and we'll come up with a list.

Speaker 35 We're going to rank something.

Speaker 49 Yeah, we'll rank something and get everyone upset about it.

Speaker 35 PMT makes a list and gets the internet mad at them. Yeah.

Speaker 23 And Mount Roshmore season will start after the NBA Finals, which actually

Speaker 13 are the Stanley Cup finals going to go later this year? No.

Speaker 35 I don't think so. Because they go every night.

Speaker 54 No, because there's less time.

Speaker 49 Yeah, they go every two nights because they're not pussies.

Speaker 35 That's a lot of travel for them.

Speaker 54 We deserve an eight-hour flight.

Speaker 49 There's not any

Speaker 21 nights where there's both.

Speaker 68 Actually, game seven of Stanley Cup would be Monday the 24th, which would be the day after game seven of Stanley.

Speaker 8 Oh, wow.

Speaker 66 They both go seven.

Speaker 68 Wow.

Speaker 9 Damn.

Speaker 17 Kind of tough by them. Hank,

Speaker 30 you got to get game one here.

Speaker 30 You just got to get game one here.

Speaker 54 I mean, get game one here.

Speaker 30 You got to get game one.

Speaker 66 It was actually two days off to arrive.

Speaker 7 Three of the games.

Speaker 54 I know.

Speaker 18 Like, I'm saying you physically can't handle just this weight.

Speaker 19 You got to get game one here.

Speaker 35 Is there any way to speed up time?

Speaker 40 Can you figure out a way to get game one here?

Speaker 19 Sleep?

Speaker 35 Golf. No.

Speaker 19 If you just golf every second between here and game one, it will get here fast.

Speaker 35 If you black out, that's kind of like time.

Speaker 68 I think Josh Allen just did like a charity 110 holes in one day thing

Speaker 68 last week. I don't know if you guys saw that.

Speaker 35 Hank could never do charity.

Speaker 21 He accidentally did that.

Speaker 48 Get game one here.

Speaker 54 I'll see what I can do.

Speaker 46 Figure it out.

Speaker 67 I will.

Speaker 51 Okay, number 20.

Speaker 33 56. 18.

Speaker 35 You're so pressed, Max. So pressed.

Speaker 63 That was 17. That was pressed.

Speaker 35 All right, I'm going to do eight.

Speaker 5 Three.

Speaker 5 99 vote.

Speaker 5 21.

Speaker 5 Oh

Speaker 5 damn

Speaker 46 59

Speaker 1 that make you a little nervous man I knew it was 59 I knew it was 59 that make you a little nervous

Speaker 17 have you ever gotten this nope that make you a little nervous

Speaker 35 talking away

Speaker 35 I don't know what I'm to say I'd say anyway

Speaker 35 Today's a not the day to find you shine away.

Speaker 35 Oh, I'll be coming for your love of the king.

Speaker 35 Take

Speaker 35 on

Speaker 35 me.

Speaker 35 Take

Speaker 35 me

Speaker 35 on.

Speaker 35 I'll be

Speaker 35 gone

Speaker 35 in a day of change.

Speaker 35 Needless to say,

Speaker 35 I hardly said it. It's about me stumbling away.

Speaker 35 Slowly learning that life is okay.

Speaker 35 Say after me.

Speaker 66 It's no better to be safe than sorry. Take

Speaker 9 on,

Speaker 9 take

Speaker 9 me

Speaker 9 up.

Speaker 9 I'll be

Speaker 9 gone

Speaker 9 and after

Speaker 9 day or two

Speaker 9 All the things that we say

Speaker 9 were just to play my memories away

Speaker 9 You're all the things I've come to remember You're shy and away

Speaker 9 I'll be coming for you anyway

Speaker 9 Take

Speaker 9 on

Speaker 9 me

Speaker 9 Take

Speaker 9 me

Speaker 9 I'll be

Speaker 9 gone

Speaker 9 in everything