Randy Moss is Talking Kentucky Derby, NHL Playoffs W/ Keith Yandle, The Sixers Get Bounced And Cocky Hank's Return

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have our good, good friend, the OG Randy Moss, talking Kentucky Derby. It's Kentucky Derby weekend.
We love having Randy Moss on. We're going to give you some picks.

Speaker 1 He's going to talk about the race on Saturday, some picks on Friday. We also have our good friend Keith Yandel on to talk some hockey.
Great hockey talk with him.

Speaker 1 We're going to recap the playoff games tonight. The Sixers are gone.
The Celtics are advancing.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, May 3rd, and the Philadelphia 76ers are dead.

Speaker 5 Sadly. Sadly.
The closest six-game series in the history of the sport, the Knicks ended up winning the series by one point.

Speaker 1 It was an awesome series. Yeah.
It was a great series. It came down to the last seconds of the last game six.
Obviously, we didn't get, we were robbed of a game seven.

Speaker 5 I wanted a game seven so bad.

Speaker 1 I wanted a game seven so bad.

Speaker 5 I know we're not supposed to look ahead in the playoffs. I wanted a game seven.
I wanted the Sixers truly to win the series. I wanted them to advance.

Speaker 5 I wanted Celtic Sixers at some point down the line looking ahead, and I feel like we were robbed of that. But credit to the Knicks.
The Knicks, they were

Speaker 5 and they're a very good team, well coached, fun to watch.

Speaker 1 They're just dogs. They just dominate the offensive class.

Speaker 1 They are a mirror image of their coach. Jalen Brunson had a tough first, what, couple games.
He then finished the last four games of this series, 39 points, 47 points, 40 points, 41 points.

Speaker 1 Yeah, crazy. Controlled the whole game.

Speaker 5 Controlled it all. Also, I noticed, I think Tibbs might be going bald.
Have you noticed that?

Speaker 1 You just noticed that? Tom Thibodeau.

Speaker 5 I think he's going.

Speaker 1 It's been probably bald for a while.

Speaker 5 It's probably reached the time. Like, I didn't notice it until it's just now because he's always had a little bit of hair on there.

Speaker 1 He's got the

Speaker 1 couple strands that are swooped over to give you the illusion of hair. No, yeah, I know.
I've noticed it for seven years.

Speaker 5 But it's time, Tom.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Doc Rivers also.
Doc Rivers bald? Well, he's got the line, and then there's just nothing on top. Yeah.
So it's like, it's, it's almost like

Speaker 1 when they basically, you know, when Manifest Destiny, we started making states out west. All right, we're just going to do, we're just going to make this one a rectangle.
Yeah. He's Utah.

Speaker 5 Utah.

Speaker 1 He's Utah's state border. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 No, but Tom, Tom is probably the goat of it's time to come home. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it's also never.

Speaker 5 But he's not going to do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because that's what he doesn't care.

Speaker 1 He cares about basketball. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 5 If he's getting a haircut, that's less time that he's grinding film. Yes.
I did see one Knicks fan that was really impressed. This was, I think maybe over the weekend.

Speaker 5 Tom Thibodeau was pumping gas at a gas station. Somebody took a picture of him.
They're like, oh my God, Tom Thibodeau, gritty guy, even pumps his own gas.

Speaker 5 That's wild. Yeah.
That man pumps his own gas.

Speaker 1 That's nuts.

Speaker 5 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 That must be a New Jersey Knick fan.

Speaker 5 I guess so. Yeah, they don't.

Speaker 1 They pump their own gas.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was a great series. I wish we would have had another game.

Speaker 5 I liked it back and forth between New York and Philly, too. I like the fact that New York is all in.
It's good. It's a good sports town where where they have a good team that's cooking.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 So I'm excited for the city of New York.

Speaker 5 I feel bad for the city of Philadelphia.

Speaker 6 However,

Speaker 5 happy Tobias Harris is no longer your problem day, Max.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Max, also, you said at the end of the game, this one feels different.
I agree with you, but I didn't hear your reasoning. So unload on us.

Speaker 4 Well, first of all, this is the first offseason where we have cap space and we have some room to make a difference in our lineup.

Speaker 1 LeBron James.

Speaker 4 Maybe LeBron James, maybe Paul George.

Speaker 1 I'm just coming into Villanova.

Speaker 4 Obviously, it would be nice to get Paul George or LeBron James. And even if we don't, just using that Tobias money to go get guys like Dante, like the role players that

Speaker 4 the Knicks had who are really good, go and get guys like that who can surround and beat and hit shots, which, to be fair, tonight, all the role players were fantastic.

Speaker 4 So I can't even really complain about that, except for Tobias Harris. Zero points.

Speaker 1 Last game was a sixer. And the Knicks role players were not good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They had five points off the bench. Like, their starters did everything.

Speaker 4 So, like, that was something that, like, going into the series, going, like, going into the night, that's what, that was like the silver lining

Speaker 4 in the back of your head. And it also feels different.
Like,

Speaker 4 I know Joe LMB gets a ton of shit. He had a great series.

Speaker 1 He had a fantastic series. Minus all the WWE shit.

Speaker 4 Minus the WWE shit.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 Yes. Minus the WWE shit.
But he was really good tonight. Closeout game.
That's a huge gripe that he's had against him in his whole career. Agreed.
Is that he's been terrible in closeout games.

Speaker 4 He was fantastic tonight, 39 points. Absolute dog.
Third quarter, like, really kept us in it. When Maxie couldn't really do anything, the end of the game,

Speaker 4 Maxie was the one that hit the big and one to tie it up. And we just made plays in this series that were very different than past Sixers' losses.
A lot of other times it was like we choked.

Speaker 4 We choked the Celtic series, we choked the Hawks series, and you go into the offseason and be like, what are we going to do? What are we going to do?

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 4 last year, we were like, we're going to lose James Harden. We're going to be a worse team next year.
How are we going to come back from this?

Speaker 1 Worse.

Speaker 1 Damn, he was like, he was on a really good path there. Sorry, sorry.
And it was like a rational,

Speaker 1 reasoned max that we were getting.

Speaker 1 And you know what?

Speaker 5 And you might have to say that.

Speaker 4 I don't think that we were worse this year.

Speaker 5 Personal growth for Max because in that moment, Max wanted to jump through the glass and strangle Hank with his own microphone cord. Max took a deep breath, composed himself.

Speaker 5 I think he's on the right track. Hank, please don't do that again.

Speaker 6 I apologize. Sorry, Max.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 it also was a very funny U-Work. And correct.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Well, yes, Joelle and Biade missed 50% of the season. So, yes, technically, they won less games this year than they did the year prior.
Correct.

Speaker 1 So good job, Hank. Didn't go as far in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, when you're the seventh seed and you have to go to the two-seed in the first round, it's not exactly the same.

Speaker 1 Right. So

Speaker 4 maybe you get a little bit of context one time, Hank.

Speaker 6 Well, maybe, you know, if you build

Speaker 6 someone that's not made out of class, and they wouldn't miss half the regular season, then they could go and have a better season.

Speaker 1 These are all fair.

Speaker 1 He's trying to cut your mic. He'd cut your mic.

Speaker 5 I actually think it's fair points on all sides. That's not a good point.
No, that's not.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 4 Hank is upset that I'm acting rationally right now, and he wants me to get angry. And I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 1 You're not going to do it. We're not even going to bring up the butt crack.

Speaker 4 The butt crack was bad.

Speaker 5 it wasn't that bad it wasn't that bad i see more of your ass on a daily basis yeah but do you understand like watching this series there were so many things that were not sixer like yes that happened i agree with you but yeah the way that you're it i think you're a hundred percent right and it's all positive stuff like i i think that this is something that you can build off of you're being people

Speaker 1 want

Speaker 1 you to be sad and angry and yes there is that part of it but with the cap space and the way they fought in this series especially Joel and Bi like having injuries, illnesses, everything, and Tyrese Maxi kind of taking that next step of like, oh, fuck, he is a killer.

Speaker 1 I agree with you.

Speaker 1 It sucks that the Sixers lost, but you're looking to next year being like, okay, if we can add this one piece,

Speaker 1 we might be in a really good spot next year. So

Speaker 1 fair points. And people want you to be,

Speaker 1 you're being real. You've always been real.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, I don't, like, this is how I'm feeling feeling right now. I could go on, like, do this whole act of

Speaker 4 getting really angry and just lie. Like, this is how I'm feeling right now about it.

Speaker 6 When the podcast ends and you're going to sleep, you know, scroll on Twitter and you see all the videos of Knicks fans walking out of your home stadium yelling fucking bead.

Speaker 6 Is that going to anger you?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it sucks. But yes, yes, that will anger me.

Speaker 1 What about. Is that what you want me to say? I was just curious.
No, I was. I just asked you a question.
Just curious.

Speaker 6 Journalists.

Speaker 1 Keep going, Inc.

Speaker 1 Max, Jalen Brunson,

Speaker 1 is this...

Speaker 1 Obviously, it was hard for you to root against your Nova guys, but there were moments in this series where it felt like this relationship with Jalen Brunson might not recover because you were getting very angry.

Speaker 1 He does a really good job of

Speaker 1 stopping in the lane, of getting contact, of finishing through contact.

Speaker 1 He's not one of those guys that one of my least favorite things that happens in the NBA is guys who constantly look for contact but aren't trying to actually finish the basketball.

Speaker 1 He does both exceptionally well.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling about your Nova Knicks in that relationship? Josh Hart also just an absolute dog. He's never seen an offensive rebound that he didn't think he could get.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling?

Speaker 4 I need like two days.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And also, like, I was getting very mad about the Brunson plays, but it's also not necessarily me getting mad at Brunson. If

Speaker 4 he is such a savvy, acts like a guy who's played in the league for 15 years and knows the game so well, like he knows he's getting those calls.

Speaker 4 He should continue to

Speaker 4 try to get those calls, but if the league has made an emphasis on taking away that play and then just continuing to give it to him time and time again, it was very frustrating for me to see.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and I agree with you that Maxie does not get the same calls that Brunson gets. Brunson, I think the difference is that Brunson, he plays a little bit more under control when he's driving.

Speaker 5 He seems like he's got his feet under him. When Maxie drives, sometimes, he's so fast.
He'll run past you, and he'll just start flying through the air, and it looks like he got hit by a car.

Speaker 4 I think that Tyrese Maxie kind of played.

Speaker 5 We don't know. Maybe.
We don't know.

Speaker 1 But you forgot about that,

Speaker 1 Hank, when you said they were worse. Kelly Ubre might have gotten hit by a car.

Speaker 5 But he also might not have gotten hit by a car. Correct.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 And he also crashed his Lambo a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 5 Schrödinger's wreck.

Speaker 1 That one was real, I think.

Speaker 5 But Max, what I'm saying is, like, that's something that he can work on because right now he's just focused on getting the shot off, getting to the basket. He'll learn with more time.

Speaker 5 And I think he'll eventually start to get those calls because this was a postseason where Max stepped up and it's like, okay, this is an emerging superstar right now.

Speaker 6 I think it's all.

Speaker 1 It's just the type of player, too. Like, Jalen Brett is just so good.
And his body control knows exactly when a guy is in a bad position

Speaker 1 and like when we were talking to Caruso about it on Monday his angles like if you if you just shift a little bit he knows okay I have you and I also can get you in a position where you're gonna you're gonna leave your feet I'm gonna get a foul and I also can score I think I think Maxie will learn some of that but I

Speaker 4 think that that's there's they're two different games and I don't think that he they should switch like Maxie at times yes looks out of control but he knows exactly the positioning of like where he is in relation to the basket and where exactly he needs to put the ball on the glass for it to go in.

Speaker 4 There's so many times where like he will put up a shot around the rim and it'll have zero angle to it, but he knows exactly where to put it and what spin to put on it for it to go in.

Speaker 4 So it's kind of like it's a little bit of controlled chaos that I think for Maxie, and I think that's part of what makes him really good.

Speaker 1 And he wasn't great tonight. He was kind of bad.

Speaker 1 He was bad. He looked a little lost in the beginning for sure.
sure.

Speaker 5 For sure. It was way off.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Hank actually winced when I said emerging superstar in Maxie.

Speaker 1 And we forgot to say Buddy Healed.

Speaker 8 And Buddy Healed, did. Buddy Healed game.

Speaker 1 He finally shot.

Speaker 1 He finally shot, and then they went in the Buddy Healed game.

Speaker 5 Also a campaign game.

Speaker 1 Well, every game's a campaign game.

Speaker 5 Per campaign.

Speaker 9 Buddy tried to get his revenge against Villanova.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was funny. I love that final storyline.
We're always thrown out there. What a story.

Speaker 4 They brought that up in the broadcast. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, great storyline.

Speaker 5 Hank, if you winced, I imagine that there's some listeners out there that winced as well. You do not think that Maxie is an emerging superstar.

Speaker 6 No, no, no. He is.
He's young enough. He's good.

Speaker 5 He's got potential.

Speaker 6 Maybe get him out of Philly and he'll really take the next step.

Speaker 4 I mean, Tyrese Maxie is better than Jalen Brown for sure.

Speaker 1 And for sure.

Speaker 4 You would trade Jalen Brown for Tyrese Maxie immediately.

Speaker 5 Trade offer

Speaker 1 right now. You'd take

Speaker 5 somebody Photoshop Max's face with a soul patch onto it onto that guy.

Speaker 1 Trade Trade offer.

Speaker 1 No, no,

Speaker 1 I decline that trade. I decline that trade.
Yeah, Hank. I think

Speaker 1 Hank takes that trade.

Speaker 1 I think Brad Stevens would take that trade.

Speaker 6 Yeah, maybe with their current contracts, but not off pure skill.

Speaker 4 I mean, Maxie's going to get a Max contract this summer.

Speaker 6 Jalen Brown just signed the biggest contract in NBA history.

Speaker 5 And he was about to get traded. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good recap of the series, Max. I'm proud of you.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 that's just genuinely how I'm feeling right now. I'm sure some Sixers fans will be, oh, fake fan,

Speaker 4 why aren't you crying?

Speaker 4 This is just how I'm feeling right now. It feels different.

Speaker 1 And it also feels

Speaker 1 like the right team won this series. I know that you might disagree, but we had the Game 2 fiasco.
We also had Game 5, which was crazy. And it feels like it all kind of evened out.

Speaker 1 And the Knicks were just the better team inside this series.

Speaker 1 And you could say injury, you could say whatever you want.

Speaker 1 But I think that when you have that result, where you're like, yeah, if they kept on playing, if they played a million seven-game series, I think the Knicks would take four before the Sixers every time.

Speaker 1 In this iteration. No?

Speaker 4 Every time. If they played the series a million times.

Speaker 1 In this exact setup, with Embiid, hurt, sick, everything.

Speaker 1 I just think the Knicks were like.

Speaker 4 A million times they get the same thing.

Speaker 1 Okay, maybe not a million times. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 I think if it was a 10-series series,

Speaker 5 I think the Knicks would win. I'd say like six.
I think they'd win six out of ten seven games too. Yes, I agree.

Speaker 4 I agree with

Speaker 1 a 10 series series.

Speaker 6 One or nine.

Speaker 1 No differential was one game.

Speaker 1 They won four games before the series.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but like

Speaker 4 to say that if they do that series a million times, they're going to win.

Speaker 1 10 million. Just shut up about a million.

Speaker 1 It's called a hyperbole.

Speaker 6 900,000 out of a million.

Speaker 5 Also, a 10-series series is a ridiculous format. It should be an 11-series series.

Speaker 1 Do you think the right team won this series?

Speaker 4 The Knicks played very hard.

Speaker 1 The better team.

Speaker 4 The Knicks played very hard.

Speaker 1 I think the right team won this series. I'm sorry to say it.
A million times was wrong. I strike a million times for the record.
When do we fucking do

Speaker 1 Semantics Police here? It's crazy. Hank, back me up.

Speaker 6 I think part of it, too, it's kind of sad to see as it's unfolded, but

Speaker 6 I think Max is just resigned to losing these games.

Speaker 6 He was a little green when he came on the podcast, and he was excited, and he wanted to

Speaker 6 be a passionate Philly fan and now he just knows like he's gonna lose. Every time he watched in the gambling cave, he's like, I always lose in here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's losing here.

Speaker 6 He wants to seem over. He's happy that he doesn't have to.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's like the.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he wasn't going to win the title. So it was like, yeah, he wanted to win this series, but the loss was coming eventually.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 What used to be a bright, sunshiny day when he got to the playoffs, it turns out that light is a freight train.

Speaker 1 He did have a bounce in his step today, though. It was nice to see him bouncing around.
He kind kind of floats when he's got that going. He does.

Speaker 1 It was good.

Speaker 4 Yesterday, I literally spent from morning until I went to sleep consuming all Tyrese Maxi content. I listened to every podcast that talked about him.

Speaker 4 I watched every ESPN high, like, YouTube highlight. And it was, it was, like, so much fun to just be like.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's, I mean, we say it a million times. If you're, you're, sports suck.
Rooting for sports suck. Your team is not going to win 99% of the time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you got got to enjoy the ride and you got to enjoy the big wins when they happen. Speaking of,

Speaker 1 Hank, we'll talk about the Bucks Pacers, but Hank,

Speaker 1 you have taken down the heat, 4-1.

Speaker 1 Easy win.

Speaker 6 Easy two wins, yeah.

Speaker 5 Didn't even break a sweat.

Speaker 1 Didn't even break a sweat.

Speaker 5 You held him to, what, under 90 points. He scored over 100 again.

Speaker 1 Just demolition.

Speaker 6 Bench players played like the last 10 minutes of the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 you're going to be be fresh. Every other team in the East is like injured, or, you know, Giannis is out and Bi is out.

Speaker 6 Hold on, yeah, the whole Sixers team is out.

Speaker 1 No, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 They're out of the playoffs. He wasn't talking about injuries.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Giannis is out of the playoffs as well. Got it.

Speaker 1 You're still going to be

Speaker 1 measured

Speaker 1 by game.

Speaker 6 Sour pussy.

Speaker 1 A little bit.

Speaker 1 Cocky Hank. I'm a cocky Hank.

Speaker 6 I'm positive vibes. I've always been positive vibes.
I'm just, you know, calm, cool, cool, collected.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 5 I have an offer for you, Hank.

Speaker 1 You're going to kill the East, Hank. What do you got?

Speaker 5 Because we do need Cocky Hank back.

Speaker 5 So I'm willing to negotiate on one point.

Speaker 1 If

Speaker 5 Cocky Hank does not make a return in this next series, sounds like ransom.

Speaker 1 He's negotiating.

Speaker 5 If he doesn't come back. Okay, I'll put it this way.
If Cocky Hank does come back,

Speaker 5 we won't release the Hank and Drake May t-shirt.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Do you want that t-shirt out?

Speaker 6 I mean, that picture's coming out. And, like,

Speaker 1 let it go. Yeah, it is.
No, like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Update it. There is now a Bruins flag and a Leaf's flag in the back.

Speaker 6 If you guys want to release that and start that, I will come back.

Speaker 1 I will come back.

Speaker 6 And that's fine. But I know you're going to hold it over my head no matter what.
Like, it's one of those things where if you're going to do it this way, if you're just like, no, we're going to

Speaker 6 keep asking you to do stuff. And if you don't do it, we'll release a picture.

Speaker 1 Just fucking release it. No, I want.

Speaker 1 Hank doesn't negotiate with Terrace. I'm not.

Speaker 1 I'm throwing the picture aside. I just want Cocky Hank because

Speaker 1 you know, I know,

Speaker 1 we all know the Celtics are going to the finals.

Speaker 8 Yeah, no, the East is a cakewalk.

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Come on.
East is a cakewalk.

Speaker 6 It should be.

Speaker 1 They should lose one, maybe two games. What did I say for you? Original? Yeah.
Yeah, four and a half.

Speaker 6 Whatever he said.

Speaker 1 So he said seven and a half.

Speaker 6 It's going to be, it should be three.

Speaker 1 The over-under should should be three maybe one series next next game which would you're playing the calves of the magic next yeah come on i where where do they even show these games there we go nba tv yeah like that we're playing the nba tv

Speaker 1 they're barely even televised on the play

Speaker 1 yeah people like logging into their parents youtube account oh man

Speaker 1 hank's back here's the thing hank i fully understand when like all we want is cocky hank for the rest of the eastern conference playoffs once you get to the final you can be, you can deal with the finals however you want to, because that's a totally different beast, and there's a lot of really good teams in the West.

Speaker 1 The East is a joke right now.

Speaker 6 The East is a joke, and as much as it's fun as it is to beat up on Philly and Philly fans in the playoffs, it has kind of gotten a little bit, I guess, stale just because it's happened, you know, over

Speaker 6 Knicks fans.

Speaker 1 Oh, they're high.

Speaker 1 They're riding high.

Speaker 1 And they got the whole stream riding high. They think shit.

Speaker 6 It would be great for them to beat Indiana probably in like seven games

Speaker 6 and then get all excited. Everyone's hyped up, the garden buzzing, and then just come out and smoke it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we got the big apple against the big asshole.

Speaker 1 Yeah, come on. Yeah, I'm back.
I want Knicks fans chanting, we want Hank after they win game one against Indiana.

Speaker 5 It is ridiculous that they, I think it was after game two, they said, we want Boston.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I love Knicks fans. I mean, they're also

Speaker 1 more delusional than Philly fans.

Speaker 5 No, but here's what's crazy about how likable this Knicks team is, how hard they play, is they have turned the city of New York into an underdog, which is so hard to do.

Speaker 4 Knicks fans fucking suck now.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about the team. I like that.

Speaker 5 I'm talking about the Knicks, just the team, not the fans. The team is fun to watch.
They're easy to root for. So they're going to be a lot of casuals.
Are they?

Speaker 1 I think so.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they play hard.

Speaker 1 I don't think New York's easy to root for in any sport.

Speaker 6 No, I guess if they're playing the Celtics, like people are rooting for the Knicks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I just like, I mean,

Speaker 1 listen, when the Knicks are good, like, New York is a basketball town first. And it's like, they're never good.
Right. But they're good now.

Speaker 1 And, oh, not good.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 1 He just fucking.

Speaker 5 It must feel so good for Hank.

Speaker 8 Like, you're letting it all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're back. Like, I see it on your face.
You're back. Well, I just had people who are rooting.

Speaker 1 The heat, like, the heat, the heat. He got used to that.
I've had our number.

Speaker 6 Yeah. That game two game when it's like, no, no, no.
Like, this can't be happening. I got rattled.
And then, you know, the last two games back.

Speaker 1 I did a lot easier than game four.

Speaker 6 That's why I said it had to be three blows to get through the series.

Speaker 1 We did. Our guy, Derrick White, has been insane.

Speaker 6 Everything just opens up. Yeah, the whole team has played well.
And Porzingis, don't even play him against whatever, the Cavericks.

Speaker 6 Just let him rest fully healthy for Knicks or Indiana.

Speaker 1 Wait, that was

Speaker 5 the Cavericks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the Mavericks and the Kicks.

Speaker 1 Cav Jacks. The Cavericks.
The Cavix. The Kajic.

Speaker 1 The Kajics. The Kajic.
The Maviliers.

Speaker 6 The Mageliers.

Speaker 5 The Magiliers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's good to have you back. Yeah, it feels really good.

Speaker 5 You know how, like, killer whales, their dorsal fin curls over when they're in captivity? That was Hank. Hank's Tokate.
Yeah. He's just been flown across the country.
Now his dorsal fin's up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was a dog with his tail between his legs. Now he's wagging his tail again, ready to go play some ball.
You're like Miss Peaches. Yeah,

Speaker 1 let me kiss that tummy. Oh, no hangs.

Speaker 1 Doesn't it feel good? It feels like a weight just came off your shoulder. Because I understand the heat were the boogeyman for you.

Speaker 1 They're scary in the fact that nothing makes sense with the heat. But now, dude, the magic, the calves.

Speaker 6 I think, again,

Speaker 6 the finals is a problem. I'm not looking past the finals whatsoever.
That's going to be a whole different issue. We just got to hope that we get in there well rested.

Speaker 6 Porzangas comes back healthy, and the next two series in the West are just seven games, seven games, seven games, seven games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you're not rooting for injuries again. You're back.

Speaker 6 Nope, I'm not rooting for injuries. I absolutely want that in the record.
I want every team at full health.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 Okay. That's big of you.

Speaker 1 Speaking of full health, the Bucs are out. Giannis never played in this series.
It feels like he was pretty close. If they had gotten to a game seven, he might have.

Speaker 1 Dame came back, and the Pacers, I mean, the Pacers played with their food on, what was it, Tuesday night? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 They thought they could just roll out and win that game without Dame and Giannis there.

Speaker 1 And credit to the Bucs for showing fight there. But the Pacers are fun.
They run up and down.

Speaker 5 Halliburton's very fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 they're just a fun, young team. We have a lot of that going on in the playoffs right now.
And now the Bucs, I feel like, have a lot of questions. A lot of questions.

Speaker 1 Because the Bucs, Giannis is still one of the best players in the NBA.

Speaker 1 But there's a...

Speaker 1 No, I don't want to. You know what? I'm not going to get into it because the Packers fans are Bucs fans.

Speaker 1 Some people could say.

Speaker 5 Wait, why don't you text it to me and then I'll say it? Okay,

Speaker 5 in the meantime, I'll just say that they do have a lot of weird decisions they have to make because they don't know what they're going to do with this new iteration of the Bucs team where they got Dame, they sacrificed defense, but then Dame gets injured, Giannis gets injured, so you don't really know what you have.

Speaker 5 You don't know what pieces you truly need next year because there wasn't a big enough sample of work against the best teams to say where your team's really deficient.

Speaker 5 So, who knows what they're going to do? They're going to throw a dart at the wall and figure out whether they want to run it back, whether they want to make a big change. I don't know.

Speaker 5 I don't know what the Bucs are going to do. But credit to the Pacers.
Very fun team to watch.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 Hank's not worried. Pat Bev.

Speaker 1 Belt to ass.

Speaker 5 Pat Bev, ball to face.

Speaker 5 Emotional. Pat Bev's in emotional.
No, no, no.

Speaker 8 He's just having a catch.

Speaker 6 I thought that was just like a cool moment that even after they lost, he was like, you know, sharing a catch with one of the fans.

Speaker 5 With one of the fans, that's a fan for life now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're like, Pat Bev, just giving him a souvenir.

Speaker 5 Threw me a chess pass.

Speaker 6 Yeah. I did.
Halbert and said the reporter asked, like, hey, I saw you you and Pat Bev

Speaker 6 exchange words at the end. Like, anything you want to share? And Albert just goes, just came up to me and said, good series.

Speaker 1 Some people could.

Speaker 1 So PFT has something he wants to say.

Speaker 5 The other thing I wanted to say earlier about the Bucs is that some people could argue that the Bucs championship was a fluke because it was off the bubble, and all the teams that had to play a long season deep into the next year got bounced, and the Nets got injured.

Speaker 5 And beating Chris Paul isn't that impressive. Some people would say.

Speaker 1 I disagree.

Speaker 5 With those people? Yeah, I disagree.

Speaker 1 You disagree. I mean, that was a real championship.
But they're now, the Bucs do have some questions because

Speaker 1 it felt like after they won their first title, it was like, ooh, this is going to be the Bucs on top of the East for a while now.

Speaker 1 And they've had, again, injuries this year were very, very important because anytime you lose Giannis, and it was last year too, because Giannis got hurt in that.

Speaker 1 But two back-to-back first-round exits for this Bucs team has a lot of people being like, well, what's going on here?

Speaker 5 Is Doc the answer? I don't know. See, that's another thing we don't know.

Speaker 5 Probably not. I'm going to say probably he's not the answer.

Speaker 1 With Giannis, you always are going to be contending. But

Speaker 1 you went all in with this Dame Lillard thing. Again, the injuries, I'm not diminishing the injuries, but if you're a Bucs fan, you're definitely, they have some big questions that are coming up.

Speaker 5 So that's what I was saying earlier.

Speaker 5 If you're the Bucs GM, do you go based off the sample size you had of Dame and Giannis playing together this year and what that looked like, and then use that to figure out what you're going to do in the offseason, the moves you have to make?

Speaker 5 Well, I mean, because we didn't get to see them in the playoffs together.

Speaker 5 So you don't know how they stack up against the best teams when you guys are both competing your hardest. Right.
So

Speaker 5 you kind of have to take a guess.

Speaker 1 And they also were, they had a disappointing, weird year, and they still were playing for the two seed in the last week of the season.

Speaker 1 So it's like, put into perspective, they're still going to be okay with Giannis.

Speaker 8 Yep.

Speaker 1 Because he's that fucking good.

Speaker 6 Early who's back of the week is Roger Miller. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, credit to the Pacers, by the way. I think that's our first series win in like 10 years.

Speaker 1 I think that's Rick Carlisle's first win since he won it all with the Mavs. I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 5 I'll look that up. Yeah, it's been a minute.
Yeah. But yeah, there's going to be a lot of Reggie Miller talk.
Hank's right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Pacers, Knicks.

Speaker 1 Pacers, Knicks.

Speaker 5 You think Doug Gottlieb was ever like, Reggie Miller needs to fix a mechanical flaw in his shooting? It's never going to be good.

Speaker 1 I actually thought Doug Gottlieb got unfair hate for that.

Speaker 5 Well, he's the easiest target ever.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Anyone else than Doug Gottlieb? So if you missed it, Doug Gottlieb basically was like, Caitlin Clark's shot is bad mechanics. Do you think they'll try to work on that?

Speaker 1 Doug Gottlieb is going to get shit on no matter what. Every single professional athlete works on their mechanics constantly.
Tom Brady like constantly is

Speaker 1 working on his mechanics. Tiger Woods has changed his swing three times.
Ask that question isn't crazy.

Speaker 1 There might be a better way, a more efficient way to shoot, especially going right for Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 1 It's not saying she's bad. That's incredible.

Speaker 6 Tigers changing his swing is what fucked him up.

Speaker 1 I think the implication

Speaker 5 was that it was broken.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not broken. It's not broken at all.

Speaker 1 He should have phrased it better. There could maybe be a way for her to become even better of a shooter.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that would be a great way to forget.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 every single professional athlete works on stuff like that constantly. So I don't know.

Speaker 9 You're right about Ric Carlo, by the way.

Speaker 1 His first series win since then?

Speaker 5 2011 over the LeBron's first year.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Wait, no, I'm seeing right now he won some playoff series in 2021.

Speaker 1 Check that. Double check.
Oh, no, maybe not. I see first.
Oh, yeah. Win loss.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 10 I see six first-round exits.

Speaker 5 Oh, I'm right.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Six missed playoffs since then.

Speaker 1 Wow. That's a long time for a really good coach.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, credit to the Pacers. They're fun.
They're young. They're fun.
They run. I love watching teams run.

Speaker 1 If you miss shots on them, you're fucked.

Speaker 1 Also, Clippers, Mavericks, Luca,

Speaker 1 incredible game. Kyrie,

Speaker 1 incredible game.

Speaker 5 I think we called those.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Credit to us for saying that Kyrie Irving and Luca Doncic were going to play well.

Speaker 1 We know ball. We know.
We know ball. And then the Clippers are stuck again, just being like,

Speaker 1 we had the opposite James Harden. That one, I thought maybe the extra rest, but.

Speaker 5 Nope. Nope.

Speaker 1 Should have known better.

Speaker 5 It was classic James. Classic James Harden.

Speaker 1 I think Nick Wright had a stat that he has the most games in playoff history with 10 shots and under 10 points. And it's like, yeah, it's like 30 of them.

Speaker 5 This is going to be a legacy game. I'm calling it right now.
This is a James Harden legacy game. And by that, I mean I hope he scores less than 10 points.
He's not.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think the Mavs are going to win this series. I mean, Luca is so good.

Speaker 5 If James Harden goes out there and drops eight points, that cements him as the greatest playoff not carer of all time.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That one clip of Kyrie just like cruising through everyone.

Speaker 5 So easy.

Speaker 1 Like he,

Speaker 1 it was so crazy to watch because Kyrie's such a good ball handler. His body was somehow out of control, but his ball handling stayed in control the whole time.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he knows exactly what he operates at, like, he processes things at such a fast speed. Right.
It's insane.

Speaker 5 Like, you can't even, if you watch him operate in real time, you have no idea how he gets the ball in the basket.

Speaker 1 It was so chaotic. And then, yeah, and it was, it still worked.
And, yeah, I love watching Luca. I mean,

Speaker 1 he does lead the league in bitching at everyone. Yeah.
But that's just part of his game. I think he's one of those guys that needs to just yell at fans, yell at refs to get going.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he'll yell at the ref after he makes a wide open three-pointer. He'll yell at him.

Speaker 1 Anyone?

Speaker 5 I try to figure out what he's screaming about. I can't figure it out.
Yeah. But he likes to have it be him against the world.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that game six and also the Mavericks, or sorry, the Magic Cavaliers game six is Friday night. So we'll see if we can finish those series.

Speaker 1 It does kind of suck that we're getting to Kentucky Derby Saturday. We're only going to have one NBA game.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's tough.

Speaker 1 Prayers for us. Yeah, we have the Nuggets and

Speaker 1 the Wolves playing

Speaker 1 game one. Hockey game seven.
We got Hockey Hank. Should we talk about it?

Speaker 5 Yeah, have a conversation. Bruins.
So the Bruins were up 3-1 in this series, huh?

Speaker 5 Then Austin Matthews not playing. What happened last year in the first round? What were you guys up?

Speaker 6 The Bruins were up 3-1, I believe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Fights tweeted out the stat that they're 0-6 in their last closeout, 6 close-out games.

Speaker 6 But the Leafs are 2-9 in their last 11 game sevens on the road.

Speaker 1 Right, but that means they've won twice. Yeah, correct.
0-6.

Speaker 6 0-6 in two years is almost impossible.

Speaker 1 That's pretty crazy hard.

Speaker 6 That's really crazy. Shocking.

Speaker 1 And with Austin.

Speaker 1 I think the Bruins are going to win this game. Me too.
Because I think... Are you in the house? I'll be in the building.
Oh, wow. So there you go.
That's all you need.

Speaker 4 Hank, did you want the Bruins to win this game?

Speaker 5 Good question. Good question, Max.

Speaker 1 Yes, I wanted the Bruins to win this.

Speaker 5 Because I heard a rumor. I heard a rumor that before the game started, Hank said.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 wait, Hank. No, Hank.

Speaker 5 I'm being a journalist.

Speaker 12 Hey, no fun when the rabbit got the gun, buddy.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Buttcrap Max is up your ass.
Yeah, buddied, pal. He's got time.
All his teams are eliminated.

Speaker 4 Six are, I mean, the Phillies are the best team in major leagues right now.

Speaker 1 So is that a fact?

Speaker 1 The rumor. 21 21 and 11.
Hold on. Hold on, PFT.

Speaker 1 I just want to.

Speaker 5 Because this is Hank's dream scenario. He's got you now stiffened down the Phillies.

Speaker 1 Braves are in first place. Yeah.
Just so just so we're clear.

Speaker 6 What division are they in?

Speaker 1 Different games. Also in the

Speaker 1 Phillies division, yeah.

Speaker 4 They're 20 and not. We have more wins and more losses, so it's different.

Speaker 1 Best team in baseball.

Speaker 5 So, Hank, there was a rumor that before this game started.

Speaker 6 Started by Max, so it's like how.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 5 Can I finish? Before this game started, Hank said,

Speaker 5 would it be wrong if I wanted the Bruins to lose this game so I could go to game seven?

Speaker 5 Factor fiction.

Speaker 1 Hank, can I defend you for a sec? Please. Sounds like he was just asking a question.
That's all I was doing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he didn't say he was rude. He said, would it be wrong? We were talking to a group of fans, and there was,

Speaker 6 I feel like an intern, I forget who was around, and I was trying to test test like what his sports fandom was like. Right.
So it was kind of like

Speaker 1 a quiz, like pop quiz.

Speaker 5 There was an intern around?

Speaker 4 So could you answer that question?

Speaker 6 Of course it's bad.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's horrible. You would never.

Speaker 4 So right now you're upset that you're going to go to game seven on Saturday.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I was rooting for the Bruins to win that game. I was upset when they lost.
I was upset when the leaves scored.

Speaker 4 I wish we were live for when the league scored that second goal.

Speaker 1 He was like, oh, no. No, because I'm actually putting words in my mouth.
He was like, no, no.

Speaker 1 Hank, no, no.

Speaker 5 Hanky, heart of hearts, your initial reaction was like, yes. No.

Speaker 1 What would you say? Oh, no.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 6 I was the only one watching the game. Shut up, Max.
You're watching, like, everyone else is focused on the Knicks Sixers. I was actually watching the Bruins locked in.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you were locked in to see if you could go to game seven.

Speaker 6 That has nothing to do with it. That's just a coincidence.

Speaker 1 It's a coincidence, Max.

Speaker 6 Like, I will be in Boston. It It is a Saturday night.
We do have a great partner at Game Time that will be helping me get in the game. I'm going to promote the company.

Speaker 1 Hank, see, you're a company man.

Speaker 1 This is a work trip.

Speaker 1 This is a work trip. Hank always does the company first.

Speaker 5 When did you first inquire about getting tickets to game time? After the game.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 6 Confirmed. I'll show you the text.

Speaker 5 After the point one second that was put back on the clock.

Speaker 6 After, well, after.

Speaker 1 Okay. Hmm.
Interesting.

Speaker 1 Okay, only I had one other thing. Go look up your text.

Speaker 6 9.44 p.m.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 The game ended at 9.47 p.m.

Speaker 1 No, it didn't. That just made that up.

Speaker 5 I'm looking at it right now.

Speaker 6 Where? Let me see if

Speaker 1 my computer froze. Hold on, I can find it.
Okay.

Speaker 5 Max, can you look it up?

Speaker 4 Yeah, let me pull this up real quick. Okay.

Speaker 4 Not 9.47 p.m.

Speaker 5 Yeah. 9.47.

Speaker 1 So you might have inquired a little early there? Nope.

Speaker 1 Joseph Wool was awesome.

Speaker 8 Their goalie was so good.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, it took him like a period to even get a shot on goal, but they played well.

Speaker 5 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 2 Let's see, Hank. Game seven.

Speaker 1 Final. The leaves posted a final at 9.45, so he might be right.
Of course I'm right. Wow, Hank.

Speaker 1 I think he's not guilty. Thank you.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So that was the first thing on his mind. Yes, that's true.

Speaker 1 Good point. Good point.
He couldn't have done it faster. But wait, Hank.

Speaker 5 What time did you say, Hank?

Speaker 1 You're absolutely right, Max. You couldn't have done it faster.

Speaker 4 I think Hank said 9.44. He said 9.44.

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought you said 9.47.

Speaker 8 What time did you say? No, I said 9.47.

Speaker 1 Hank said 9.44. What time did you send the text? 9.44.

Speaker 1 Oh, so yeah, no, you're wrong. You're guilty, guys.
Guilty, guilty. Guilty.
Guilty. The game was over.
They had to make a fucking whole ass graphic and cheated. You scored a goal.

Speaker 6 That's when the Bruins were to roll 9.45?

Speaker 1 No, they scored. Yeah, they scored a goal.

Speaker 6 At 9.45.

Speaker 1 You're going to make me do more. My work?

Speaker 5 No, I'm on it right now. Boston Bruins, 9.44.

Speaker 6 No, your PFT is lying.

Speaker 5 I swear to God, look at Big Cat.

Speaker 1 Well, there was 0.1 seconds left. Yeah, the game wasn't over.

Speaker 1 The game wasn't over. Big cat right there.
All right. Yep, 9.44.

Speaker 5 9.44.

Speaker 5 Bruins tweeted out. Hank

Speaker 1 after that. No, it's a liar.

Speaker 5 I asked you specifically about the 0.1 second, and you lied.

Speaker 1 I waited till whatever.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Hank's very excited that the Bruins are going to game seven. I'm

Speaker 6 very excited to have a chance.

Speaker 6 I'm excited to have a chance to advance.

Speaker 1 Bruins got to play well.

Speaker 1 Reverse the curse. Oh, Max, I had one last thing.
Do you have anything to say to Jerry O'Connell?

Speaker 4 He was all up your ass. Yeah, no, it was a masterclass that he put on me tonight, and

Speaker 4 I didn't really know how to respond to it.

Speaker 4 I didn't know he was a Knicks fan, number one, but he's been on my ass.

Speaker 1 Congrats to him. Here's what he says.
Congrats to all.

Speaker 6 I was going to say, awesome.

Speaker 1 Just me and you, Friction Boy.

Speaker 1 Just me and you, Friction Boy.

Speaker 1 See you later.

Speaker 1 Friction Boy. Friction Boy.

Speaker 6 Wait, we got this. One was my favorite.

Speaker 1 Fuck you life, Maxie.

Speaker 1 He also, he also, Jerry is so committed to this show, he even used Max's Little League pronunciation of his name in this one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maxie Delente. Little you small.

Speaker 1 Little you small. Little you small.

Speaker 6 Using it as one word is also just taking the game.

Speaker 4 People are also tweeting it, tweeting

Speaker 4 that on his talk show today that he was talking shit on.

Speaker 1 That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 I never saw the clip of it.

Speaker 5 I'm imagining his fans

Speaker 5 that go to see Jerry Hokado's talk show, and he's taking like 30 seconds to just rub one in Max Delente's face, and they're just so confused. But Jerry's loving every second, yeah.

Speaker 4 If someone could find that clip, send you small, let's

Speaker 1 just give it Hank.

Speaker 5 That's that's what you have to look forward to: you versus Jerry.

Speaker 1 Oh my god, yeah, Jerry be all up your ass.

Speaker 6 They got to get past the Pacers.

Speaker 1 We might have to get him out here, yeah.

Speaker 4 You got to get past him past whoever you're playing.

Speaker 1 The Kajic.

Speaker 1 I think if you combine the teams, you probably win. Yeah,

Speaker 1 this cocky ankle just building them up, building them up, build them up. All right, he's not picking up.
He's probably just, he's probably running around the streets.

Speaker 1 All right. We'll have him on, though, if you play the, if the Celtics play the Knicks.
Last thing I had.

Speaker 1 Deion Sanders should probably stay off Twitter. Yeah.

Speaker 5 The thing about Deion is when Colorado's winning and everything's working, he's super entertaining. He gets people talking about college.
Football, which is good. New rivalries forming.
That's good.

Speaker 5 He also has been going after former players on Twitter,

Speaker 5 which is not a good look for a coach. And then

Speaker 5 what I didn't like is he's now like he'll backtrack his way into

Speaker 5 using a quote from the Bible that then also justifies why he's hating on this 19-year-old kid. Right.

Speaker 1 And we.

Speaker 5 Dion wants to be treated like a player sometimes.

Speaker 1 Right. Like the

Speaker 1 player mentality. Yeah.

Speaker 5 He's got the player mentality, but you also have to be a good person to the players that you come across that you might not even.

Speaker 5 Like he inherited that guy as the guys that's on the team and then to be like cyberbullying him over his stats and stuff like that yeah Deion should probably stop doing that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean we are Dion fans. People know that we're biased in that respect.

Speaker 1 So when we say that he's going too far and should stay off Twitter, you know that he's gone probably well too far to stay off Twitter.

Speaker 5 Way too far.

Speaker 1 Just one of those things, like, what are you winning right here, Deion?

Speaker 1 There's nothing to gain from doing that. I understand defending your son.
Yeah. But other than that, let your sons do it.

Speaker 1 Like, I think Shadur Sanders, like, well, actually, you know, that was a little weird too. Because he was talking, because he's the coach's son, and he's talking shit to a former player.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And, like, I don't know, you must have been mid because we didn't even, I don't even remember you. And like, that seems like it's stupid, too.

Speaker 5 Making it clear that the two of them had talked about this.

Speaker 1 Right, right. Yeah.
Yeah. So, yeah.

Speaker 5 And that kid was, he was one of the guys that tried to stick around. Yeah.
And tried to like adapt to Dion's system, the new regime.

Speaker 5 And he tried to make it work, and apparently Deion just wouldn't give him the time of day, which that's also reality in college football. Right.

Speaker 5 If the coach doesn't think that you're good enough to play, you're going to be treated like less than nothing. You might as well be invisible.

Speaker 5 But then to have that same coach dunk on you online later, that seems like it should be beneath any college coach. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he should stay off Twitter and maybe learn the lesson that it's not nothing. You don't win on this.
You lose. He lost.
He lost lost in that exchange.

Speaker 1 All right, anything else? Oh, Justin Fields might return kicks. Yeah.
Bill Pullion somewhere is just smiling.

Speaker 5 I told you.

Speaker 1 I hope he doesn't.

Speaker 1 He would be electric, but I hope he doesn't because why would he ever do that? I think, I don't know.

Speaker 8 He's not.

Speaker 5 Just get the ball in his hands.

Speaker 5 I like watching him run.

Speaker 1 He's not.

Speaker 1 I still think he's going to play at some point this season for the Steelers, but even if he doesn't play, being a backup and being like, I'm not returning kicks, because what will happen is Justin Fields will return a touchdown and then he will be boxed into returning kicks.

Speaker 5 See, Corderelle Patterson. Yeah.
So, the one thing I'm looking forward to a lot about this, actually, there's a lot of things I'm looking forward to about this NFL season. I wish it started tomorrow.

Speaker 1 I can't. I'm starting to get the itch.

Speaker 5 I can't wait for it. I haven't been this excited in years for the NFL season.

Speaker 1 I'm starting to get really close to sending out my first. I can't wait for college football tweet.
It has to come organic.

Speaker 1 It has to be when I'm just daydreaming and just thinking, like, damn, I can't wait for this.

Speaker 5 So, one thing I'm really excited about, though, is with the new kickoff rules, watching teams absolutely screw it up. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 And like everyone's going to think that they've got a new system, a new way that they can take advantage of the new kickoff, and half of them are going to fail hilariously. Yes.

Speaker 5 And that's what I'm looking forward to watching. Yes.
It's going to be great. Some coach thinking that it's cooking.

Speaker 1 It's going to be great. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Happy we got Cocky Hank back.

Speaker 1 Happy Max is dealing with this somewhat well.

Speaker 5 I'm happy Max isn't sad. Are you sad?

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 I'm definitely sad.

Speaker 5 But we've seen sad Max before, and this pales in comparison.

Speaker 6 It's different, though.

Speaker 4 It's different. It's different.

Speaker 1 And I'm happy.

Speaker 6 Max earlier was like, would it be bad if I wanted the Sixers to lose this so this would be over?

Speaker 1 Did you say is that true?

Speaker 4 That is not true.

Speaker 5 What time did you say that?

Speaker 1 I think you did say at one point, I just want to get it. I just want to be out of here.

Speaker 1 That was talking about

Speaker 1 the physical space you were occupying. Yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 Probably. I hate that gambling game.

Speaker 4 I will never have a win in that game.

Speaker 8 I don't know if you want to be here anymore.

Speaker 1 You have had wins there.

Speaker 4 Name one.

Speaker 5 Oh, that's a good question.

Speaker 1 Villanova over DePaul.

Speaker 4 That was the worst.

Speaker 4 That was the worst win. Was that not a win?

Speaker 1 That was a seven-point favorite. Was that not a win?

Speaker 4 That was the worst win in the history of wins.

Speaker 5 Oh, you beat the Cowboys in there when Dad stepped out of the winter.

Speaker 4 That's the only game. I had one game in my mind.
That's the only one.

Speaker 1 What about when you guys took a lead in the NLCS?

Speaker 1 Lost. Yeah, but you had wins.

Speaker 4 Not in that room.

Speaker 1 To get there.

Speaker 4 Not in that room.

Speaker 1 Yeah, actually, that room's been really bad because I was even thinking like the

Speaker 4 Cowboys game's the only one.

Speaker 1 The series against the Braves was in the old office.

Speaker 5 Yes. Big Dom game.

Speaker 1 They lost that game. By a lot.
Oh, I forgot. By a lot.
All right, let's not play this game. Remember, that was the Niners.
Debo would just run. He'd just give a Debo.

Speaker 1 All right, let's not play this game.

Speaker 5 I thought they won the Big Dom game.

Speaker 4 Really good interviews coming up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we have so Randy Moss talking Kentucky Derby, Keith Yandel, one of our also good friends, talking some puck, and then we have a weird brainstorming session for Firefest that I thought was very...

Speaker 5 Yeah, it takes a lot of twists and turns. We need some help.

Speaker 1 I need some help with my words, and I also need some help on an idea and how to make it funny. Let's kick it to ourselves.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Randy Moss.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. He's one of our favorite guests long time.
I mean, we say this every year, Randy Moss, but

Speaker 1 I think you were probably the first three months of pardon my take history.

Speaker 1 You had no obligation to give two idiots a shot and hop on this podcast as it was kind of a bit at first, and then we became friends.

Speaker 1 But I can't tell you every single time we get to Kentucky Derby week, the amount of people who tweet me being like, Randy Moss, right? Randy Moss, Randy Moss. So it's great to see you.

Speaker 1 It is Kentucky Derby week.

Speaker 1 I have a question that's not horse-related first.

Speaker 1 Super Bowl week. Did Boomer and Geo try to steal our bit? Did they steal our bit?

Speaker 15 Boomer and Geo had no damn idea who they were getting, right? I was there to help, you know, promote horse racing. They asked me to come and all that.

Speaker 15 You know, they thought they were getting Randy Moss the football player. And who wouldn't want Randy Moss the football player on Super Bowl week as opposed to, you know the OG white bald Randy Moss?

Speaker 15 Yep, but uh, yeah, it was it went viral, it went viral that week when they realized at the last minute who they were going to be getting. So it was pretty, pretty funny.

Speaker 5 That wasn't a bit then.

Speaker 5 I wasn't sure, I wasn't sure if they were just going to do the, yeah, because I think the first time we had you on, we might have asked you only like Minnesota Vikings and New England Patriots-related questions.

Speaker 1 Uh, but yeah, it's good to have you back on.

Speaker 15 The very first time I was on, we played racehorse or porn star.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
You were really good at that game. You were really good at that.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you knew your porn stars. Yeah, you're a porn guy.

Speaker 15 And after that, my wife told me, you will never go on Bart My Dick again.

Speaker 15 And now she's a big fan.

Speaker 1 Oh, you want her over. It's a beautiful story.
It's a beautiful story. All right, so it is Kentucky Derby week.
Let's start with the guy that looms over everything every single Kentucky Derby week.

Speaker 1 It is Bob Bafford, who will not be involved.

Speaker 1 His horse, Muth, who probably would be, you could tell me, would be very much in the running to win this race, will not be there.

Speaker 1 What's the late? I read a story last night that essentially was like Bob Bafford just isn't sorry enough.

Speaker 1 And so you tell us from your angle, what's happening and what will happen going forward.

Speaker 1 And is there that feeling that not an asterisk, but there's a horse out there, a three-year-old that could compete in this race that won't be in this this race.

Speaker 15 So Bob Bafford had a couple of horses that would have been in this year's Kentucky Derby in a normal year. Mooth won the Arkansas Derby.

Speaker 15 He probably would be the third betting choice, the third favorite if he were here. And he also had another horse who had finished second, Imagination, in the San Denita Derby.

Speaker 15 So he would have had two horses kind of

Speaker 15 front and center. And we know, we all know that.
because of the medina spirit disqualification in 2021 churchill downs ruled him off for two years, right? That was the deal. Two years.

Speaker 15 If he had no more medication violations after two years, then he'd be welcome back to Churchill Downs.

Speaker 15 And then last July, suddenly kind of out of the blue, Churchill Downs said that they were extending the ban from two years to three years.

Speaker 15 As a justification, they cited a comment that Baffert made on Fox in an interview saying that if he had to do anything over again, he would do everything exactly the same. And that

Speaker 15 apparently angered Churchill Downs. In my opinion, the reason why Churchill Downs extended the ban, they didn't tell me this.
I'm reading the tea leaves here.

Speaker 15 This is the 150th anniversary of the Kentucky Derby. It means a lot to Churchill Downs, this 150th anniversary.

Speaker 15 I think they realized that if Baffert had come back to the Kentucky Derby this year, He would be one of the main stories.

Speaker 15 Bob Baffert being back would almost overshadow the storyline of the 150th Kentucky Derby. And I didn't think that after all was said and done, they wanted that to happen.

Speaker 15 And I don't think they wanted the possibility of Bill Carstanjan, the head of Churchill Downs, presenting the trophy for the 150th Derby to Bob Bafford

Speaker 15 in the winner circle. Okay.

Speaker 5 That makes sense.

Speaker 5 In theory, but if you're looking at it from a perspective of what's going to get the most buzz going, what's going to get the most people to tune in, what's going to be the biggest story, you could argue that Bob Baffert coming back, the bad boy returns.

Speaker 5 It's like a wrestling storyline. Bad boy returns, 150th anniversary.
If he does happen to win, that feels like that is a win for horse racing overall, if that happens.

Speaker 15 I think you're absolutely right. And what wins for horse racing, in my opinion, is the best horses being in the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 15 And this year, all the best three-year-olds are not in the Kentucky Derby. So that's where I come down on it also.

Speaker 5 I also love the idea that this dynamic between Bob Bafford and Churchill Downs is just exactly that detention scene in Breakfast Club. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where he just says one thing like another detention. Yeah.
All he has to do is say sorry and really mean it. And he'd be back.

Speaker 15 Yeah. And although this thing was in court up until like a week ago because the owner of Muth.

Speaker 15 uh challenged the extra year suspension. Not Bafford.
It was Amber Zidan who owned Medina Spirit and he also owned Mooth.

Speaker 15 Amber Zidane pointed out that he played, he took Churchill Downs at their word that if Baffert had no more medication violations, that they would be, they would welcome him back after two years.

Speaker 15 And he said, I went out and bought $10 million worth of horses on the assumption that Baffert would get to train my horses if they made it to the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 15 And then I got the rug pulled out from underneath me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 But he filed that lawsuit very, very late in the game, just four weeks before the Derby, right after the horse won the Arkansas Derby. So

Speaker 15 I think the timing is what did it, man, more than anything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it does lead us to an interesting Kentucky Derby. Like you said, not all the best three-year-olds are in this race.
And I was looking at it last night.

Speaker 1 Fierceness, who is going to be the favorite on Kentucky, he's a favorite right now. Mike Ropoli, shout out Mike Ropoli, our guy who helped us get Rick Petino on the podcast.
But Fierceness looks like

Speaker 1 He's a class above everyone else in terms of speed.

Speaker 1 Like the speed ratings for a lot of these horses are just not what it it doesn't look like what a kentucky derby should normally look like is this a situation where fierceness like you have to include them in your bets and this horse is just better than everyone else i on if all the horses run their best races uh fierceness wins the race hands down yep talent wise fierceness is probably three or four links better than any other horse in the field.

Speaker 15 But right now, you mentioned that Fierceness is the favorite. I hope this music's not too loud behind me.
I'm in the new paddock, by the way.

Speaker 1 No, you're good. It looks good.
See? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 15 I always want to give you guys up close and personal. Like, remember when I got under the stall webbing at the freakness and the answer he made?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 It was fantastic.

Speaker 15 So that's why I'm in the paddock. Anyway,

Speaker 15 back to Pierceness. The only, the drawback about Pierceness, who is right now an eight to five favorite.
is that he's had a couple of races on his form

Speaker 15 where he was terrible. The Holy Bull, Bull, the race before the Florida Derby, he had a little bit of an excuse, but he still underperformed.

Speaker 15 And, you know, there's that inconsistency in his form

Speaker 15 that is making a lot of people look elsewhere, especially at the eight to five price.

Speaker 5 And he's running 17th in the 17th position, right?

Speaker 15 Yeah, but that's good. Okay.

Speaker 15 He's a speed horse. And he doesn't want to be down inside where his hand is forced.
So if they could have picked their post position, they would have picked, you know, 16, 17, 18, somewhere out there.

Speaker 15 So that worked perfectly for them. He's had a scratch.
He was 17. Now he's 16.

Speaker 15 There may even be more, another scratch or two. Who knows? But they wanted to be outside.
So that's a good thing.

Speaker 15 But if you, on paper, and I know, you know, the Kentucky Derby, you don't often get to say this, on paper.

Speaker 15 it looks essentially like a two-horse race between fierceness and a horse felt sierra leone and right now sierra Leone is six to one.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 15 So I think Fierceness is the most likely winner, but the discrepancy of eight to five and six to one

Speaker 15 is very, very tempting given Fierceness's inconsistencies in the past.

Speaker 1 All right. So you mentioned, so he's going to be running out of 16, but he will be wearing the 17 silks, right?

Speaker 15 Correct, correct. 17 saddletown number.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yes, 17 saddletown number, correct.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we are superstitious superstitious guys, and you probably know this as well. 17, the number 17 has never won the Kentucky Derby.
44 years, never won the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 1 How does that not play into this, Randy?

Speaker 15 It has nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Speaker 1 Come on. It has to be something.
It has to be something.

Speaker 15 It's just coincidence. 18 is won.
Yeah. Right? 18 would be worse than 17.
Right, but 19 has won. Yeah.
20 has won. Exactly.
The rich strike wore, what, 21 or 20? I think he wore 21.

Speaker 5 You're proving why 17 is unlucky.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're making our point for us. 44 is not a 44 years is not a coincidence.

Speaker 15 You guys are going to get me on jinxes? Yes.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. I mean,

Speaker 5 the fact that he's wearing 17, but he's racing out of 16th position, that's not going to be a win for 17, though, even if he does win, right?

Speaker 5 Officially, in the record books, we're still going to say the 17th position has not won.

Speaker 15 Okay, well, how about looking at it this way? All right, 15 is one, 16 is one, 18, 19, 20. 17 17 is badly overdue.

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't know. I don't know about that.

Speaker 5 You're trying to time the market. Yeah, I don't know about that.
Advisors say not to do that. I think that's a bad idea.

Speaker 1 I think that's a bad idea. All right, so

Speaker 1 Sierra Leone,

Speaker 1 the second favorite,

Speaker 1 talk to me about this horse because this horse, I watched a couple races that this horse has run, and the MO for this horse is going to slow start, finish strong,

Speaker 1 which you don't, isn't always easy when it comes to Kentucky Derby with the amount of horses in the field and the traffic that could be there.

Speaker 1 So, are you concerned at all about the fact that traffic is going to be a problem? I think it might be a little muddy. You never want the mud in your eyes.

Speaker 1 Are you worried at all about Sierra Leone coming from the back in a huge, huge field?

Speaker 15 No.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 15 No, I'm not worried at all. And here's why.

Speaker 15 First of all, if you go back historically and you look at the Kentucky Derbies, like go back and look at the last 30 years, if you have access to the charts and things like that.

Speaker 15 And this whole mantra that has developed over the years of the 20-horse field and the Kentucky Derby making it a rough race, making it a crap shoot. The best horse doesn't win.

Speaker 15 They get stopped in traffic. It's all BS.

Speaker 15 Probably 70 to 80% of the horses that win the Kentucky Derby, if you go back and look at the charts and you ask yourself in hindsight, was this horse the best horse in the race? Right?

Speaker 15 Looking back in hindsight, it's all it's usually yes despite the traffic despite the running style part two to that there should be a fairly contentious early pace it almost always is in the kentucky derby and when that happens it spreads out the horses right they're going kind of fast early so it creates more gaps all the way back to the last place horse there's more of a gap between first and last when the pace is kind of fast and that means a little less traffic for the come from behinders back there to have to navigate through to get to the front.

Speaker 15 And you've also got, you know, 20 of the best jockeys in the United States and some of the best jockeys in the world.

Speaker 15 So typically

Speaker 15 they can find a way to do it. The cream usually rises to the top.

Speaker 5 So in terms of the jockeys, what's one jockey that you're looking at this week that will get the most out of their horse and provide good value maybe on whatever the betting line closes at?

Speaker 5 It might be a long shot, but they've got a great jockey that might work their way into the top three. three.

Speaker 15 Never, ever, ever handicap the jockeys in the Kentucky Derby because they're all good. They're all good.

Speaker 15 The difference between Joelle Rosario and Irad Ortiz and Tyler Gapleon and Jose Ortiz and Flavian Pratt is so minute, right?

Speaker 15 There may be a very slight difference in between one and the other if they get into a particular situation in the race, but you never can't predict if that situation is going to transpire or not.

Speaker 15 They're so evenly matched that you just have to go into it with the assumption that you're going to get a good ride.

Speaker 15 The horse is going to run up to his potential and just focus on the horse and not the rider.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Now, I think we do this every single year, Randy.

Speaker 1 We try to talk ourselves into a Japanese horse who won in

Speaker 1 the UAE or the Saudi Arabia Derby. We do this every single year.
So this year, Forever Young,

Speaker 1 what are we telling ourselves?

Speaker 1 I'm sick of

Speaker 1 basically being sold on these Japanese horses flying all the way around the world and then coming here and like, watch out for them. It never works out.

Speaker 1 But tell me how this is going to be different this year.

Speaker 15 Well, there's really only been one of them that had a legitimate chance, and that was last year of Derma Sotagake.

Speaker 15 And,

Speaker 15 you know, he ran six. He ran okay.
He put himself in good position at the top of the stretch. I thought he was going to be good enough to win,

Speaker 15 and he wasn't.

Speaker 15 So, you know, the sample size is not all that big. This year, Forever Young is the most accomplished of any Japanese horse that's ever come over here.

Speaker 15 He's a perfect five-for-five lifetime. But I've got two concerns about Forever Young that would keep me from being super confident in him, right?

Speaker 15 Talent-wise, he's as good as any of them except Pearson.

Speaker 15 But he traveled 5,000 miles to get from Japan to Saudi Arabia. He won the Saudi Derby.
Then he hopped over to Dubai, not very far. He won the UAE Derby.
Then he travels 7,000 miles to get here.

Speaker 15 After he won the UAE Derby, his Japanese trainer through a translator was quoted as saying that when he made the trip from Tokyo to Saudi Arabia, he did not travel well. The travel bothered him.

Speaker 15 And it took him a while to get back into his rhythm. With this horse, the travel over was delayed by a week because of logistical problems from Dubai to the United States.
Right?

Speaker 15 He had to fly from Dubai to Frankfurt, from Frankfurt to Chicago, Chicago, a 42-hour quarantine into a van, six hours, the turkey lounge. If he didn't travel well from Saudi,

Speaker 15 from Japan to Saudi, it concerns me

Speaker 15 that he's going to be a little bit less than 100% because of the travel all the way into here. The other thing,

Speaker 15 the trainer seems to be

Speaker 15 borderline obsessive about keeping this horse out of this kickback spray in his face.

Speaker 15 And if he tries to do that in the Kentucky Derby with 20 horses, the only way to do it would be to take him to the far outside.

Speaker 15 And in that case, he would have an impossibly wide trip and he'd be completely screwed.

Speaker 15 So because of those two factors, I'm not as confident about Forever Young running well as I was last year when German Soda got there.

Speaker 15 But he is a very, very talented, very, very determined and accomplished straightforward.

Speaker 5 Another crazy story is that Jason Worth actually owns one of these race horses, or he owns at least like 10% of one of the horses, right? Is it Dornock or Dornak?

Speaker 15 Yeah, Dornak. Dornak breaks from post-position number one.
He'll probably set the early face.

Speaker 15 Yeah, Jason is just now sort of getting started in a horse business, just dabbling in it.

Speaker 15 And, you know, it's such a long shot for someone to just buy a few horses and not spend an astronomical amount of money and yet have a horse in the Kentucky Derby. Yeah.

Speaker 15 He's over, he's, I talked to him yesterday back there in the barn area. He's over the moon about it.
Really good guy. And he's uh, he realizes how lucky he's gotten right off the bat.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's crazy to just get started. I think he's been doing this for like three years, and he has a horse in the Derby in the third year.

Speaker 1 It's insane. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Now, is it, is the horse, is it a Philly?

Speaker 15 No, it's a horse who actually happens to be a full brother, meaning the same sire and the same dam as Mage,

Speaker 15 last year's Kentucky Derby winner. It's never happened that two horses out of the same sire and mare both won the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 15 So this would make history if Dornick could manage to go wire to wire from the inside.

Speaker 1 Is there any nepotism concerns? Like, do you think that

Speaker 1 Mage maybe told him, like, hey, this is how you want to run the race?

Speaker 5 Are we worried about that the nepotism with seattle slough throughout the years has been ridiculous yeah

Speaker 15 maybe they hooked up a little face time with mage and uh and dornick here in the week before the kentucky derby right all right dumb question do they do they know their brothers

Speaker 1 no like if they see each other are they like yo you look like me well who knows right

Speaker 15 No, no, no one has any idea if a horse would actually recognize that. Now, there are some people who believe,

Speaker 15 and I can't argue with them necessarily. I mean, you can't factor this into your hand at that, but there's some people who believe that horses can be in the paddock, right?

Speaker 15 You can, before they even get to the racetrack, and you can have eight or ten horses together in the paddock, and they're getting ready to, which is where I am, obviously, right here, by the way, and they're getting ready to go out and run in a race.

Speaker 15 And some people believe that one horse can look at another horse and say, oh shit, I can't beat that horse.

Speaker 1 Mentally weak. I love that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know. Well, what about? Who knows?

Speaker 1 I believe that now. I absolutely believe that.

Speaker 5 Can horses, horses can have friends. I know that.
Can they have enemies, like rivals? Are there horses that look at another specific horse and be like, I fucking hate that horse.

Speaker 5 I'm going to run fast.

Speaker 15 You know, this is, this is, it's funny that you would say that. When I first started coming to Kentucky, I took a trip to

Speaker 15 some farms in Lexington. And I went to a Spendthrift Farm, which is a big farm.

Speaker 15 And they had a firm, the Triple Crown winner there who was a very entertaining horse he was he was said to be one of the most intelligent horses uh good horses that that ever lived right a very very smart horse he actually used to play a game where the tour people would be up including me would be up at the fence watching him in the back of the grassy paddock and then he would come charging full speed right at the people And it looked like he was going to just run right into the fence and he would wait till they scattered and ran away.

Speaker 15 And then he would come to a screeching stop.

Speaker 15 And just, it really entertained him to be able to scatter the people like that well his sire was in the paddock next door exclusive native and the the guy that took care of him told me that they hated each other

Speaker 15 and they would try to they would try to fight over the fence and they would sometimes race each other up and down the fence line but they did not like each other at all.

Speaker 15 So it was like a little, what do you call that? Oedipus

Speaker 1 complex. Yeah.
I like that. No love lost between the two.
All right, so talking about the whole field, give us some long shots that you are looking at, maybe including it in your exotics.

Speaker 1 I'll throw one out there that maybe you could tell me is stupid, but the horse Mystic Dan, just looking at the speed figures, is probably the second fastest horse if they all ran their top speed that they've run in the past.

Speaker 1 Is that stupid to include him in anything?

Speaker 15 Wait until you see the racetrack condition on Saturday.

Speaker 15 The speed figure you're talking about was in Arkansas at Oakland Park at a trail, at a race called the Southwest States, where it was a muddy racetrack.

Speaker 15 And he absolutely ran a freakishly good race coming down the stretch. He came back next start on a fast racetrack in the Arkansas Derby and wasn't nearly as effective.

Speaker 15 Now, that's not a lot of evidence.

Speaker 15 just you know two races to say that man this horse loves a muddy racetrack but it's supposed to rain friday it's supposed to rain maybe saturday morning if the track is muddy as for the kentucky derby and you know mystic nan is sitting on the board at 35 to one

Speaker 1 uh you could do a whole lot worse than to uh than to make that assumption okay and then what else what what other horses should we have our eyes on where you're like okay this horse is uh is something you want to include Yeah, two of the mid-price long shots that I like,

Speaker 15 16 to one right now in the betting is a horse called Just A Touch, who was second to Sierra Leone in the bluegrass. And he's a horse that's getting better and better and better.

Speaker 15 He's only had three races, just like Justify a few years ago. So he's very inexperienced, theoretically improving.
And then at he's 16 to one. And then at 17 to 1, there's a horse called Honor Marie,

Speaker 15 who was second in the Louisiana Derby, who had already shown last year that he loved Churchill Down. And he's looked really good here in workouts in the morning.

Speaker 15 Just a touch is up close to the face. Honor Marie will be back there with Sierra Leone toward the back of the pack.

Speaker 15 But both those horses, I think, have a really good chance, you know, to sort of sneak into the

Speaker 15 trifectas and the superfectors.

Speaker 5 So the horse that right now has a third best odds, maybe, I don't know what the scratches are, but catching Freedom is right now, I think, eight to one.

Speaker 5 I don't know if that's current, but we haven't talked about him. He seems to be

Speaker 5 right in the conversation here. What do you think about him?

Speaker 15 He ran a really good race to win the Louisiana Derby, right? Honor Marie was second. He beat Honor Marie by a lengthen there.
They were last and next to last in the early part of the race.

Speaker 15 So, just like Sierra Leone, you know, those horses will all be way back at the back of the pack. I think they found out something in that race about catching Freedom.

Speaker 15 He didn't break very well, and he had never been that far back before. And that was the best race of his life.
And I think they found out that's the way he wants to run.

Speaker 15 But he's still going to have to improve, I think, from that race into the Kentucky Derby. But no,

Speaker 15 he's definitely

Speaker 15 not without a chance.

Speaker 1 So you're in the new paddock right now.

Speaker 5 I know that they've changed the track up a little bit, aren't they? They nerfed the track. They made it softer.
They're trying to not have a repeat of what happened last year.

Speaker 5 What changes have been made to the actual surface of the track?

Speaker 15 It's the composition of the track. It's the percentages of sand, silt, and clay.
They bought some new equipment to take care of the track a little bit better.

Speaker 15 One of the things that's going to be interesting, I think, is that there's a higher percentage of clay apparently in the track.

Speaker 15 And if you know anything about farming or whatever, I don't, but whatever it is.

Speaker 15 Clay holds moisture more than sand and silt. This track was always known as a track that dried very, very quickly because it had a higher percentage of sand.

Speaker 15 And now with more clay in the track, there is at least some concern with the trainers back there that if it rains Friday and it rains Saturday morning, that the track may not dry as quickly on Kentucky Derby Day as it has in the past.

Speaker 15 So that, you know, that might be the most immediate impact that we see.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then

Speaker 1 talking about Friday, usually give us something on the Kentucky Oaks.

Speaker 1 You will be on the broadcast. We'll see you all weekend.
So what do you think in Kentucky Oaks for people who want to start on Friday?

Speaker 15 Look, I'll give you some horses to bet.

Speaker 15 Friday and Saturday, right? Okay. And the Kentucky Oaks, we'll start with the Kentucky Oaks on Friday.

Speaker 15 I have a very tough time separating the five Torpedo Anna and the 13 Just FYI.

Speaker 15 Right now, Torpedo Anna is the favorite in the early betting. Just FYI is, you know, it's almost a coin flip between the two horses.
So I would play exactly back and forth between those two.

Speaker 15 Right now, just FYI is, I think, five to one, which will be a great price for her.

Speaker 15 The horse I like the most in the two days for betting purposes is running on Saturday in the seventh race. It's a race called the Distaff Turf Mile.

Speaker 15 And her name is Coppis, C-O-P-B-I-C-E. She breaks from number 11 in the seventh race on Saturday.
Her first race in the United States.

Speaker 15 And the reviews of this horse back at the barn in the mornings have been absolutely glowing.

Speaker 15 And a lot of those European horses come over here and pick ass against the American horses when they switch into the turf.

Speaker 15 And then a few races later, the 10th race, there's a race called the Churchill Downs Stakes, the seven furlong sprint.

Speaker 15 I'm not positive this horse is fast enough to win, but it's going to be 12 or 15 to one.

Speaker 15 And the horse could be right there. And I'm going to bet it.
The horse's name is Track Mate.

Speaker 15 Okay. Track Mate number seven

Speaker 15 in the in the 10th race on Saturday.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
I like that.

Speaker 5 I like that endorsement of it. I'm not sure this horse is fast enough to win, but I'm going to bet on it.

Speaker 15 Yeah. At that price, you know, numbers-wise, he can win.
In his last race at Oakland Park, it was just an allowance race. You watch that race and you're like, whoa.

Speaker 15 I mean, he streaked around horses coming to the stretch and then drew off and won. Dwayne Lucas trains him.
He's had blinkers twice. He won both those races.

Speaker 15 Last race, he just, he really gave you that sort of wow factor when you watched him run. And this is not the toughest Churchville downstakes that we've seen seen over the years.

Speaker 15 So I think he's got a really good chance to be right there.

Speaker 1 When you go blinkers on, are we basically saying that the horse is just not mentally tough?

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 Yeah. It, it, it, it's, it's typically, typically that the horse is too distractive.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.

Speaker 15 The horse is looking at the other horses. The horse is looking at the crowd.
you know the horses especially in the infield of the kentucky derby oh look over there holy cow look at that.

Speaker 15 You know, and he's not, and he's not focused on what he's doing in front of him, right? So the blinkers sort of help him not look at anything else except what's just like right there.

Speaker 15 The other thing is that sometimes horses,

Speaker 15 what the blinkers will do, when they sharpen the focus, it makes horses often run faster early for whatever reason. I guess it's because they're just, they're, they're more focused.

Speaker 15 And so if some horses just have trouble early in the race and they drop too far back, trainers will put blinkers on the horse, hoping that it makes them show more speed. And oftentimes it works.

Speaker 1 Now, in terms of horse racing technology, have we ever thought about, you know how like outfielders would wear

Speaker 1 the sunglasses that you can flip on and off?

Speaker 1 Have we thought about doing blinkers where it's like you can have the blinkers on for the first start of the race and then you can flip them off at the end?

Speaker 1 I think I might have just invented a new thing.

Speaker 15 You may have.

Speaker 15 Before you know it, you may have those. You may have eye eye black under the horse's eye.

Speaker 1 You don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 15 I mean, what you do see in horse racing that's pretty funny is that some horses are claustrophobic and they don't want to go into the starting gate.

Speaker 15 This happens in Europe more than it does in the United States. So they'll put a hood on them, a complete hood, no eye holes.

Speaker 15 They can't see anything. And they'll put him in the gate.

Speaker 15 and they'll load him in the gate and they'll keep that hood on them and the jockey will have his hand on top of the hood And as soon as the gate opens, he'll throw the hood off,

Speaker 15 throw it behind him, and then the horse, the horse will go on. Now, the day that the jockey forgets to take the hood off, that should be very interesting.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 5 it sounds like they're taking the horse hostage, and then they're like, okay, you're free. Try to get away.
And then it runs out. That's actually a smart move.
What about this?

Speaker 5 What about if you were to take, uh, have a horse and have it train with a really fat jockey for a while? And then on race day, here's your real jockey. He weighs 150 pounds less.

Speaker 15 It's like like a batting donut yeah a batting donut yeah it's yeah it's like swinging a leaded bat or something like that uh there you know there was a trainer named larry jones which still trains horses every now and then uh he's had some really good horses over the years he had hard spun who was second in the kentucky derby way back when he went larry weighs about 100 and probably about 170 pounds or whatever he would like to breeze his horses and get on them in the mornings and that was a little part of the theory yeah thought it would strength it's thought thought it would strengthen them up a little bit right and then in the afternoon, you put on your, you know, 110-pound rider and

Speaker 15 boom. You don't see that very often, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Did it work?

Speaker 15 You want a lot of races?

Speaker 5 Okay. That's a smart move.
Yeah. It's a very smart move.

Speaker 1 What's the minimum weight a jockey has to be?

Speaker 15 Minimum or maximum? Minimum.

Speaker 1 Is there a minimum?

Speaker 15 Well, I mean, typically nowadays,

Speaker 15 you don't see many races at all. where the minimum weight is any lower than like 112, 113 pounds, right? So if you do happen to have a super duper lightweight jockey like Pat Day used to be, right?

Speaker 15 Pat Day was a natural lightweight, like I'm talking like 105 pounds or something like that.

Speaker 15 So when Pat would ride and his horse had to carry 115 pounds, they just put 10 pounds of lead weight into the saddle so that he can, you know, carry the amount of weight that he's required to carry.

Speaker 15 As far as a maximum weight, typically nowadays, you know, it's very difficult for a jockey to ride if he weighs more than 117 116 pounds okay because they're overweight they're overweight on too many races yeah um

Speaker 1 but yeah that's the way that works i'm just thinking like like

Speaker 1 what you know like maybe a seven-year-old on a horse yeah would they just be able to dominate yeah just ride just standing on him maybe

Speaker 5 like a 50 pound seven year old have we thought about getting jokic involved in american horse racing we know he loves horses and i feel like this would be right up his alley.

Speaker 5 He's in the playoffs, obviously, so he can't do it now, but getting him involved owning a horse, and then he would ride on the back of the horse to train it, and then put a jockey on that horse is going to be so fast.

Speaker 15 Hey, we got Jason Worth this year. You know, you got Aaron Rodgers will probably be here.
Tom Brady will be here. So, yeah, I mean, let's get to me and these athletes involved if you can.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
Last question. This has always been great.
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Speaker 1 Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com. So this year's a little interesting for the Triple Crown.
I'll actually be there for the Belmont, which is going to be at Saratoga.

Speaker 1 Is that going to change? Yeah, hopefully I'll see you. Is that going to change any of the horses that are in the Triple Crown?

Speaker 1 You know, because I know you can obviously race the Preakness in Belmont, even if you're not in the Kentucky Derby, but the fact that it's in a different place, in a different track, does that change the dynamic and how trainers are playing this out?

Speaker 15 not the fact that it's at a different track but the fact that it's at a different distance yeah because the belmont is being run at saratoga this year they don't feel comfortable running it at a mile and a half because then you'd have to start it halfway around the turn now it's been done in the past when the belmont was run at aqueduct a few way back when

Speaker 15 in the 60s, I think, when they were the first time they were rebuilding Belmont Park, they ran it a mile and a half and they started it on the turn with no problem because they felt it was important to keep that mile and a half distance.

Speaker 15 But this year, next year,

Speaker 15 the New York authorities have decided that it would be better to run the Belmont Stakes at a mile and a quarter, which completely changes the dynamic of the Triple Crown. Right.

Speaker 15 You know, the Belmont was always known as the test of the champion because of that mile and a half distance that was the undoing. of so many horses that were trying to sleep the triple crown.

Speaker 15 It's much to me

Speaker 15 the distances of of the races and the Belmont, especially being a mile and a half, it's much more important to keep that tradition than the amount of time between the Derby and the Freakless and the Freakless and the Belmont.

Speaker 15 But at a mile and a quarter, I think you're going to see a lot more trainers want to run in the Belmont States than if it were still a mile and a half.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so this is going to be whoever, if someone wins the Triple Crown this year or next year, we're going to just forever be like Asterix, bubble championship, different.

Speaker 15 You're right.

Speaker 1 yes

Speaker 5 absolutely i think that's unfortunate yeah but on the other hand you're going to get more horses running in in the other races which is good right

Speaker 15 well more in the more in the belmont yeah yeah man saratoga's incredible oh yeah yeah and this that's going to be quite the spectacle i i wish i could see you there i'm not going to be there okay uh a box says the belmont states nowadays But it's going to be like really, really something special to see.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Sounds good. Randy, thank you as always.
We'll talk to you before the preakness.

Speaker 1 We're excited. We're very excited for the Kentucky Derby.
It's like the official start of summer in my mind.

Speaker 1 And look at that scene. It looks beautiful.

Speaker 5 It's a nice paddock.

Speaker 1 And good luck on TV on Friday and Saturday. And I know you'll look great.
You got a good outfit, I'm sure, picked out. And we'll talk to you in a couple weeks.

Speaker 15 All right, guys. Take care.
This is always the highlight of my week. You're one of them.

Speaker 1 I love it. I appreciate it.
I love it. Good to see you.
Thanks, Randy.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, recurring guest, all-around great guy. It is Keith Yandel.
We're going to talk some puck.

Speaker 1 Yans, good to talk to you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 You guys went over last podcast, you saying very, very, very special guest, and I get fucking nothing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and actually, on this episode, people are going to listen to this after they listen to Randy Moss. I think I gave him four varies.

Speaker 1 Damn. Yeah, you got

Speaker 5 how many varies do you think you should get?

Speaker 11 None, but like, I don't know, fake one. Like, very.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. Very, very.
Yeah, there you go. There's two.

Speaker 1 Uh, Yens, before we talk about uh, some of these second-round matchups, um, you were texting me yesterday, and he uh, he said he wishes he had memes' phone number so we could have texted him and asked uh how many games he really thought the Islanders were going to win.

Speaker 1 So, what we might as well do it right now because you, you were dealing with Frankie Borrelli and Islanders fans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they thought that a 4-1 loss to the Hurricanes in that first-round series, they were right there.

Speaker 11 Which is insane. Is memes there?

Speaker 1 Yeah, memes, he's here.

Speaker 11 A, I wanted his phone numbers because I wanted to be friends with him. I love memes.
But

Speaker 11 second, but like, it's like Borrelli's making this big deal, having Stu Feiner come into his restaurant, watch games. Like, they had zero chance of winning that series.

Speaker 1 Zero.

Speaker 11 Do I love the fact that they did it in heartbreaking fashion? Yes, I love it because, you know, I played for the Rangers. I hate the Islanders.

Speaker 11 but the fact that they thought that they'd rather not be in the playoffs than think that you're going to win a series or think you're going to win a game.

Speaker 11 It's just typical thinking of

Speaker 11 the Borelli type fan.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Sad.

Speaker 5 So you hated the Islanders. Is that common? Like, do most players, if it's their rival, they actually have a hatred of them?

Speaker 11 Well, I think when you play a team,

Speaker 11 you know, you play a team so much, you're in the same division, you're a couple miles away.

Speaker 11 And when you played the Islanders, especially back then when they were at Nassau Coliseum, it was the worst hotel, the worst food. The walk to the rink is brutal.

Speaker 11 So it's just, there's nothing fun about going to that town to play a game. But great fans, loyal, passionate.
But,

Speaker 11 you know, they're hanging on to their 1970s a little bit too long.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
All right. So, memes, what do you say to that? Are you, do you think you were right there?

Speaker 1 I do think we were right there.

Speaker 11 that's that's crazy people talking

Speaker 1 how memes uh game two we probably should have won so it should have been 2-2 going into get game so that's one win yeah okay

Speaker 1 all right and then it would have been coming back to the island three two okay we would have won that and we would have stole one game seven okay all right so that's how they would have done it all right so my bad maybe they would have won it

Speaker 11 They would have got a pass right to the finals if they won that series. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 1 So let's start with

Speaker 1 the East because you just mentioned your former team, the Rangers. They uh beat the Capitals very quickly.

Speaker 1 It was seven days exactly, which uh, I was trying to help PFT being like, if you're out in seven days, you just were never in the playoffs, no one will remember.

Speaker 1 Are we at the point, is it early enough to do the rest versus Russ thing?

Speaker 1 Are we worried that the Rangers, they played four games, then they're going to take a week off, and now they've got to get back out there? Do they lose a little bit of their

Speaker 1 momentum going into the next round?

Speaker 11 I don't think so. I think, I think rest is such a big component, especially now during playoffs.
Anytime you can get it is huge.

Speaker 11 Um, at the end of every series, pretty much every guy's banged up, going through something, whether it's a, you know, bruises or, you know, stuff that's broken. Guys are battling through it.

Speaker 11 So I think the rest component is huge anytime you can get it, especially during the playoffs, because you don't know if you're going to get it next series or the series after.

Speaker 11 And, you know, they might have a slow first period, but Carolina's is going to have some rest too um probably take the under in that first game okay so the uh the Rangers is their penalty kill as good as it looked or is it just that the Capitals are atrocious I think a little bit of both

Speaker 11 you didn't you didn't see the Capitals power play that you used to see in the last what 20 years with Ovie it's you know they they did a good good job of eliminating him

Speaker 11 You know, I don't think he had his best series that he's ever had, and I'm sure he would be the first guy to tell you that but uh you know a lot of hard work from that team at the end of the season to try to get in they might have been out of gas but i do i do think that the rangers uh pk and their power play their special teams are great uh they got a lot of they got a lot of dogs out there just guys that are willing to pay the price uh block shots playoff time it that's what it's all about and uh guys sacrificing themselves and i think the rangers are are one of the best teams at doing that and you know they got the guys that want to pk and then when you have such a good power play like they do it just makes makes your

Speaker 11 PK look even better.

Speaker 5 With Ovie specifically,

Speaker 5 I've watched a lot of him this year. I've watched his entire career.

Speaker 5 In the playoffs, he looked like a different guy entirely.

Speaker 5 It was to a point where I started to get concerned: is this the new Ovi? Is this just who he is now? Because he seemed to hit a wall this year, so maybe it was.

Speaker 5 He's out of gas by the end of the season. But the way that he played, it was completely foreign to me.
As somebody that's seen this guy's entire career, I haven't seen that type of play from Ovi ever.

Speaker 11 And so now I'm worried next year looking forward is this just going to be Ovie trotting him out there trying to get him out on power plays until he gets the record and then then the franchise is just kind of treading water for the next season or maybe two seasons yeah I think it could I think it could be a little of that but yeah there were a few plays during uh that series when you know and we when I was with the Rangers we played the Washington and You know, a lot of times like he'll come down the wall.

Speaker 11 Like he's usually in his spot up there hitting a one-timer. But if there's a loose puck and you're a D-man going to get it, he's usually running you through the glass.

Speaker 11 And I didn't see much of that out of him, but you know, it's like you guys, you know, you've said before on the show, Father Time is undefeated. And,

Speaker 11 you know, I don't know if they had the best team to support him as well. You know, I think they were lucky to get in with, you know, obviously the goal differentials everyone's been talking about.
But

Speaker 11 you can see him, especially, you know, he'll put his 20 games together where he just goes on heaters, plays well, plays hard. But

Speaker 11 I think the days of where he's running guys through the boards,

Speaker 11 you know, a force to be reckoned with out there, those might be limited.

Speaker 11 But, you know, I think when it comes to goal scoring, I think he could do it till he's 45 years old because he's got one of those shots where no one wants to block it.

Speaker 11 Whether you're a defenseman or a goalie, you don't want to get hit by it. So

Speaker 11 I think you're still going to see the, you know,

Speaker 11 him scoring goals and getting opportunities. But I think that the rest of that stuff that made him so effective with being a force out there, scary to play against.

Speaker 11 He's a big, like, people don't realize he's probably 250 pounds, you know, especially when playoffs come at the end of the year. You're eating a lot of chicken parm during the season, right?

Speaker 11 So it's you're putting on weight. So he's probably playing at 250 running guys and not a fun man to play against.

Speaker 1 What, uh, so last question about the Rangers. Matt Rempe, who electrified the NHL when he, when he, when he came up, was fighting every single night.

Speaker 1 He turned down a fight in this series with Tom Wilson. Does that matter at all in the locker room going forward? Like, hey, dude, it's the playoffs?

Speaker 1 Or was it simply the Rangers were going to win that series no matter what? Don't waste your fights in this series?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think a little bit of both. The key thing to fighting is time and place.
And, you know, you talk to guys like Biz or guys like...

Speaker 11 You can hurt

Speaker 11 your own team's momentum. You can help another team's momentum.
If you're up by a goal, it's usually an unwritten law that you don't fight.

Speaker 11 The other team's fighter is probably going to to try to fight you to get his team going a little bit, but that's when you kind of you know shake it off and say, No, no, no, wait till it's tied or whatever.

Speaker 11 But usually, when fights like that happen, especially in playoffs, it's usually a little more organic, um, whether a guy gets ran from behind or stuck in the face.

Speaker 11 But I think, I think the days of where guys are just uh, you know, tapping shin pads at the red line and saying, Hey, we're going this shift, I think that's kind of done, uh, especially during playoffs because it's it's all about momentum for your team.

Speaker 11 Uh, I can't, I can't remember exactly the play.

Speaker 11 Was it at home or on the road?

Speaker 1 I think it was game three.

Speaker 5 No, it was either three or four. But Wilson was trying to get after him a couple of times in this series.

Speaker 1 And the Rangers were up one.

Speaker 11 Especially on the road, too. Like,

Speaker 11 you don't need to fight on the road because you're just going to get the other team's crowd into it.

Speaker 11 At home, you're probably looking for it a little more, but on the road, you don't need to get the other team's crowd into it.

Speaker 11 you know especially like pft he'll be taking his shirt off and

Speaker 11 waving it around like p.D.

Speaker 1 Pablo. Yeah.
Another dumb question about Rempey. So he comes up and he fights.
I can't remember. It was like four or five of the first games that he played.

Speaker 1 In the locker room, is there anyone like, hey, dude, we get it? Like, we love you. You're good.
Like, after the third fight, they're like, hey, you're good with us.

Speaker 1 Like, we know you're the tough guy now. Like, we're good going forward.
You're our guy. Or was he like, I'm just going to keep fighting until everyone in here says to me personally that they love me?

Speaker 11 It's a good way to get the, you know, get the graces of your teammates is by going out and fighting, especially when you're a young player trying to make a name for yourself. But

Speaker 11 I don't think he needs to do it. And you'll see during playoffs, like he won't be doing it as much.
He'll be playing.

Speaker 11 He's a scary guy to play against. He's 6'7,

Speaker 11 flies around. So I think he's more effective getting in on the four checks, scaring D-men,

Speaker 11 making plays when he can.

Speaker 11 But at the end of the day, the fighting stuff in playoffs

Speaker 11 is going to be more organic.

Speaker 5 How do you usually initiate a fight?

Speaker 5 You want to go?

Speaker 11 Yeah, you want one. A lot of guys say you want one.

Speaker 11 Or you want a shot at the belt.

Speaker 1 That's what I used to say.

Speaker 1 How many fights did you log?

Speaker 11 Not many. Maybe eight.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Seven, eight, and 16 years.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Is there a good way to turn down a fight or do you just skate away? Like, can you say, not right now, I can't do it right now. I'm busy.

Speaker 11 I used to always say either my hand hurts or

Speaker 11 a coach won't let me.

Speaker 1 Coach, won't let me know we'll let me know. Coach, so we know.
Okay, other series in the East that hasn't been finished. Do you want to? I know that we have game six tonight.

Speaker 1 We're taping this in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 Is there any way the Leafs can win this and take it to seven and then possibly steal this? Because it felt like they were dead, especially with Austin Matthews out.

Speaker 1 Like, they're yelling at each other on the bench. Like, is there any chance the Leafs can somehow get this to seven and maybe win?

Speaker 11 I don't know. A lot of it, it has a little bit of a feeling of last year when the Bruins lost to the Panthers with

Speaker 11 missing a couple goals. Marshawn missed last year.
I think Coyle missed one this year. So it has a little bit of that same feeling, but

Speaker 11 I think Toronto played their best game last game, and I thought the Bruins were not very good at all.

Speaker 11 It was a sloppy game, not a lot of, it looked like the ice that the parquet was still down, like pucks were bouncing everywhere. So, I don't think they can pull this one off.

Speaker 11 I think the Bruins have the leadership, the veteran presence in that locker room that they'll be able to win one of two. But if they lose tonight, man,

Speaker 11 it's going to get a little testy in the waters in Boston.

Speaker 5 Do you think maybe Ryan Whitney turned the series around with the Photoshop that he personally created and put out there online? And Delif saw that, and they're like, fuck this.

Speaker 5 We're going going to go out there and win.

Speaker 11 Oh, I didn't even see that.

Speaker 8 Oh, you didn't see the Photoshop.

Speaker 5 Big Cat, why don't you say that?

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 5 Send to Yanel so he knows what not to share online.

Speaker 1 It would be great if Yans was the one who created it.

Speaker 1 He's just like Kaiser Soze. He's like, I don't even have a computer.

Speaker 1 He's masterminding all these AI images. Yeah, I wouldn't put it past you.

Speaker 1 Out West. So the Dallas Golden Knights series, everyone said this is going to be a war.
You saw the Golden Knights win the first two games. Like, oh, shit, maybe the Golden Knights run away with this.

Speaker 1 Now we're back to war. And it's 3-2 Dallas.
They won three in a row.

Speaker 1 Same kind of question with the Leafs. Like, I know the Golden Knights can do it.
They just won a cup, but do you see them being able to force this to a game seven?

Speaker 1 And what happened in the last three games that the Golden Knights went from a 2-0 winning two on the road to now fighting for their life?

Speaker 11 Yeah, it's a good question. And I had Dallas going to the finals last year.

Speaker 11 I think I might even have them going to the finals this year because they got Ottinger, who is the top three goalie in the league. They got

Speaker 11 young studs. They got older guys that have been around forever, that have, you know, done a lot of damage in this league.

Speaker 11 So I think that their team, the way that they're made up, is a tough team to beat. But Vegas, I don't know if it's, you know, everyone complains about...

Speaker 11 you know, the guys being on LTIR and not playing the last half of the season to stay under the cap. But to me, it looks like it's hurting them a little bit this year.

Speaker 11 I think, you you know, Stone and Hurdle, I don't think they look, you know, like themselves as dominant as they are when they're 100% healthy.

Speaker 11 You know, they could be still hurt, but it's one of those things when you go on a, on a run like last year, you're winning games, you're beating people up.

Speaker 11 You know, they play a very

Speaker 11 physical game. So it could be one of those things where they're just tired.
They're...

Speaker 11 you know, kind of need the rest. But, you know, it's also they're running into a good team first round.

Speaker 11 I know that they were the eighth seed, but but it's, you know, playing Dallas first round is never fun. And this has probably been the best series I think of.

Speaker 11 It could be a Western Conference final matchup if

Speaker 11 Vegas

Speaker 11 had had their weapons all year. I think they would have finished a little bit higher.
But

Speaker 11 yeah, I think Dallas, I think this is their year to pull this one off

Speaker 11 and beat Vegas.

Speaker 5 What about Edmonton? I know it's hard to say how good they are right now because they beat the Kings. It feels like they do that every single season.

Speaker 5 If I was a Kings Kings fan, I would just, I would despise all of Canada.

Speaker 1 But they advance pretty easily.

Speaker 5 Is it three years in a row?

Speaker 11 I think, didn't.

Speaker 1 I think they lost in the first round.

Speaker 11 I think they lost to LA three years ago.

Speaker 5 Oh, did that? They lost three years ago. But yeah, it feels like it feels like.

Speaker 6 Last year I know they play.

Speaker 11 I don't know.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so Edmonton advances. Is this, do you think that this would be the year? Because we were all over it last year with Connor McDavid.

Speaker 5 We're like, this could be the year that he gets it done because we won't acknowledge his greatness until he gets a ring. Facts.
That's something that, you know, it's very important to us on this show.

Speaker 5 So until then, he's not a winner.

Speaker 5 Would this be, it feels like this is a tougher West with Colorado and then whoever comes out of that Vegas Dallas series.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 11 I think that they have the easiest

Speaker 11 matchups to get to the Western Conference Finals.

Speaker 11 you know obviously with playing LA who they've had their number the last couple years like you said and then they're going to get the winner of Vancouver Nashville and I think that they'll work either one of those teams.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 I don't think it's their year. And you hate to say it just because what McDavid and Dry Seidel and Hyman have done this year and what they do for the league.

Speaker 11 But I just think those other teams are a little bit more deep, better goaltending, better defensively. But I do like how Edmonton is bulked up on the back end, bringing in big guys.

Speaker 11 I think you see in playoffs,

Speaker 11 a lot of of the teams that have the big, strong heavy D,

Speaker 11 they're the teams that are usually winning it or going deep. But I just don't see it this year for them.

Speaker 11 You know, hopefully one day McDavid gets one, but

Speaker 11 I think the West is too stacked. And at the end of the day, I think the East is going to win it this year.

Speaker 1 Has the league gone back to bigger players? Because I know it switched a little bit in like the, you know, the Blackhawks run.

Speaker 11 They had big players, but like there were some teams with some a lot more skill and speed as it do you see it like going back towards like you need the bulky guys and and just kind of hammer teams i think i think in playoffs you have to but you know the the way that the game is you have to be mobile you can't just be a big you know when i started in the league it was 6'4 6'5 demon who just you know and you couldn't get near the front of the net that couldn't skate as well as the guys can now so i think you got to have a combination of you know big guys that can that can move the puck decently and and can clear the front of the net net.

Speaker 11 But,

Speaker 11 yeah, it's definitely, I think during the regular season, you see that, you know, the smaller guys, the more finesse guys, they'll shine a little bit more.

Speaker 11 But when it comes down time for playoffs, it's usually the teams with the big, heavy D

Speaker 11 that are winning games. Yeah.

Speaker 5 What do we think about what's going on with the whole Arizona-Utah thing?

Speaker 5 So the players were told at the end of the season, I have to imagine that some of them knew that this was a very good possibility that was going to happen.

Speaker 5 But they're moving to Utah. They don't have a name yet.

Speaker 5 Is there anything that you've heard in terms of what they're going to be called?

Speaker 11 I've heard a few things.

Speaker 11 I like the Yetis, but I don't know. It

Speaker 11 doesn't really matter to me. But

Speaker 11 I think it's a good thing. Obviously, you hate to see, especially

Speaker 11 Phoenix is where I started my career.

Speaker 11 You know, loved it there, loved my time there, but I think it's just time for them to move on and then hopefully get in the right owner and get a team back there.

Speaker 11 Because, you know, it's one of those cities that I think needs to have hockey.

Speaker 11 Like, if you look at Austin Matthews, a guy from Arizona, if he didn't have the, you know, the Coyotes there and a guy like Shane Doan to look up to, he would have never played hockey.

Speaker 11 And I think he's came out and said that. So I think you got to have a team there.
My guess is they're going to get the right ownership group to come in, build a stadium

Speaker 11 near where

Speaker 11 the

Speaker 11 highly dense population is in Scottsdale, Tempe, North Scottsdale, Get the right owners in, get the right guys to run that team. And I think it would flourish.

Speaker 5 I got a name for you that should be helping out to run that team. Commodore.
That dude's awesome.

Speaker 11 Mike Commodore? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That guy's the final thing.

Speaker 5 That guy is a fucking maniac.

Speaker 1 I love him.

Speaker 11 I don't know him that well, but he is a funny man.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, it's just hockey guys are always, every hockey guy is funny.
I don't understand what you guys do.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but the Utah Yetis, I think that's a winner of a name. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yans,

Speaker 1 I went back to Madison to do, they have like an end-of-the-year sports award. Uh, so I was the MC and it was like a thousand athletes in the whole auditorium.

Speaker 1 And of course, the entire hockey team was in the front row. I think they had been camping out for like a week.
And I was just like, now I feel at home. Like, cause I just know those guys.

Speaker 1 They're funny, and they're going to, they actually listen to Barstool. And pardon my take.
So it's something about hockey guys.

Speaker 11 Yeah, they're the best. And

Speaker 11 especially college kids, though, you know, obviously the audience that you guys have and what, you know, all the enjoyment you guys bring to everyone, it's they must have loved it.

Speaker 11 And I can only imagine being a young kid listening to you up there. And were they giving you shit or anything?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were giving me shit. And then they all came up and asked for a picture after, and they were giving me shit about my, I was wearing a shirt without a collar.

Speaker 1 It was, I don't know what someone sent it to me. It's fashion choice that I probably shouldn't have been doing.

Speaker 5 Do you have a stain on there?

Speaker 1 No, it looked like I looked like a priest.

Speaker 5 Oh, nice.

Speaker 1 And then they were giving me shit because I wasn't going to go to the bar with them.

Speaker 1 You didn't go out with them? Dude, I got to work.

Speaker 1 We didn't do PMT.

Speaker 11 You sound like Biz.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Biz is like that. Yeah, but Biz, when he says I got to work, he just goes and takes a nap.
Yeah. I actually had to work.
We had to do PMT after all the playoff games.

Speaker 1 I would have loved to go out.

Speaker 5 You tell me Biz doesn't go out anymore?

Speaker 11 He goes out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I actually had a fun night with him the other night. He is out of his mind, that guy.

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 1 Do Do you have any cameos?

Speaker 11 No, does he? Is he on cameo? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. You don't know about the

Speaker 1 famous cameo? Uh-uh. We'll send it to you.
Oh, yes.

Speaker 1 No, I think he got taken down. It might be gone.

Speaker 5 It was too hot for the internet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was too hot for the internet. It wasn't him.
It was the guy in the background. We have it, Max.
Somebody's got it. All right,

Speaker 1 I'll get that. We'll find it.
We'll send it to you.

Speaker 5 Tell us what an average night out on the town with business like.

Speaker 11 Well, the night he came up with me, it was me, uh, my wife, three of our friends, and their wives. And he had some girl who was going to come to dinner with us, like just some girl he's never met.

Speaker 11 Then he was like, All right, I'm going to go meet her. He shows up, she's with her boyfriend.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 5 he's like, Hey, what's going on here?

Speaker 11 Like, am I interrupting anything? And the guy was like, Yes, my girlfriend.

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 11 And then he went to the bathroom, and then the girl was like, No, he's not my boyfriend. So, he, his mind was in a pretzel.

Speaker 11 So, he uh, it was fun to pick him up the next day, go to lunch, and him tell me that story.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Only Biz.
Only Biz.

Speaker 5 I got my bull coming over.

Speaker 5 He's a former ice hockey player. I love him.

Speaker 1 Give me the three best goalies in the playoffs right now.

Speaker 11 I think you got to put Bobrovsky at one. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Ottinger, probably at two.

Speaker 1 Knights.

Speaker 1 And then I'll go Shasturk in three.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
So, and is it a big difference between the three? Like, is one just playing at such a different level or all three of those guys could easily win the cup?

Speaker 11 I think Bob's playing at a different level. I think, you know, that save that he made,

Speaker 11 I think it was game two,

Speaker 11 where he just reached back, made the save. I think, like, every time I see it, I just think that that's the start of the DVD.

Speaker 11 You know, when you win, when you win the championship, I just think you think back to all the Stanley Cup winners, there's always like that one save where a guy makes and it's, you know, it just cements his legacy as an all-time great.

Speaker 11 And Bob's one of those guys. He's, he's a competitor.
He's an amazing goalie and,

Speaker 11 you know, easy guy to root for. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So who do you have in the Stanley Cup final?

Speaker 6 I got

Speaker 11 Florida and

Speaker 11 Colorado. Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because Colorado gets like, you know, they win the cup, and then last year, it felt like it's hard to repeat, and so many miles on their legs. And now I'm watching them.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, yeah, this team was really dominant two years ago.

Speaker 1 And not a lot has changed.

Speaker 1 They made quick work of the first round, and they play such a fun style of hockey. It feels like maybe it's just personal, like people have kind of slept on Colorado a little bit.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think they have for sure. And I think it's probably because they don't have that, you know, household name goaltender.
If they did, then I think everyone would have them as their favorite.

Speaker 11 But you just love to like Nathan McKinnon, every shift, he's doing something that is just special.

Speaker 11 And, you know, getting to know, you know, hearing more about him, the way he is in the locker room, he trains with Crosby all summer.

Speaker 11 Like, you just know he's demanding a lot out of his team in between every period, after every game. He's holding guys accountable.

Speaker 11 You know, probably the best, you know, I don't know if he's a vocal leader, but the way that he plays, probably the best leader in the game right now, just giving 100% effort.

Speaker 11 Like, he skates like it's his last shift every single shift. It's wild to me.
Like, and he does it for 82 games and then in the playoffs, like most guys, like, it's a lot to do all year.

Speaker 11 And he brings it. He's worth the price of admission.

Speaker 11 And, you know,

Speaker 11 obviously he's won his cup, but I think it's one of those things he wants, he wants more. He's not satisfied.

Speaker 5 Yeah. So it sounds like you have the Panthers over the Avalanche in the finals then.
Because you you said you thought the East was going to win it this year, right?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think it's the Panthers year.

Speaker 11 I just, they're a fun team to watch.

Speaker 11 They play so hard.

Speaker 11 Their big guys are playing great.

Speaker 11 Barkov had an amazing closing game against Tampa. And, you know, Tampa was the Kryptonite for a long time, you know, those guys.
And I think you see the changing of the guard a little bit.

Speaker 11 A little 400 miles south. I think now it's like the Panthers are kind of running the east a little bit the last two years anyways.

Speaker 11 So it's it's fun to see what they've been able to do for hockey down here and you know getting people interested. And just every everywhere I go now, it's just people are talking about the team.
And

Speaker 11 it's just fun to have it around and especially in a market like this where it's not

Speaker 11 a cold city where people grew up playing hockey. It's one of those things.

Speaker 11 It's came organically with

Speaker 11 how well the team's been playing.

Speaker 5 Do you call them the the P's? Because we call them the P's, but that's only because Brooks calls them the Ps.

Speaker 11 I do not call them the P's, no.

Speaker 1 They're not the P's?

Speaker 1 The Thurs?

Speaker 5 What do you call them?

Speaker 1 The Cats. The Cats.
Oh, yeah. Ooh, I like that.

Speaker 1 This may be outdated because we're going to tape the beginning of the show after the playoff games tonight. But do you think Hank's being a pussy, not

Speaker 1 being cocky, Hank?

Speaker 11 I do kind of hate to pile on Hank because he's my guy, you know, mask guy. But

Speaker 11 I think you need to act a little more cocky, Hank. Like, it's in you.
It's in you to fucking give it to the people, you know.

Speaker 11 And I think a little bit that has hurt him is the Patriots and the whole Lighthouse thing. But fuck that.

Speaker 1 He hasn't recovered from the Lighthouse.

Speaker 1 He hasn't. He's not wrong.

Speaker 11 Am I wrong? He hasn't been the same since the Lighthouse.

Speaker 1 It's true.

Speaker 1 You can track it all back to the Lighthouse.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it's where his cockiness just kind of fell out of it. It might be he's in the Patriots in general.

Speaker 6 It's hard to be cocky, no, but the lighthouse mostly.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's a lighthouse.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 11 He's he's more into golf right now. That kind of that's a chill sport.

Speaker 1 Like, he's true.

Speaker 11 He's banging balls and

Speaker 11 just rooting for his teams like a gentleman. But yeah, I'd like to see that the cocky Hank, especially with the Celtics, like just fucking bring it out, Hank.

Speaker 5 Yeah, this is this is why we need the Sixers to play against the Celtics because that Hank would have no choice. He would not be able to contain himself.

Speaker 5 He would naturally naturally revert back to like, fuck you, Philly. I'm a dick.

Speaker 11 The Sixers fucking stink, and so does Max.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so we're going to. I mean, what do you have? Do you have anything to say to him before he goes to ward night? He's got a little bounce to his step.

Speaker 1 You know, winning, I don't think he thought he was going to win game five, and now he's got a little bounce to his step where he's like, this might be, we might be back. This might actually work.

Speaker 6 He's lifting this morning.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was what? He's lifting. He's getting back in shape.

Speaker 4 Third time this week for the record.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Matt, you want action on the game tonight?

Speaker 1 Matt, they're going to lose. What? Come on.

Speaker 1 This is going to be after. Yeah, he's doing a bit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're going to lose.

Speaker 1 He's doing a bit.

Speaker 8 We drove 1,700 miles of old Highway 61, the whole country, top to bottom, just to prove one thing. Comfort food can make anywhere home.

Speaker 8 Crave New World makes the classics you grew up with, cleaned up for right now. High protein, no fake stuff, no shortcuts.

Speaker 8 Bison meatloaf, chicken enchiladas, turkey lasagna, the kind of meals that taste like Saturday night, even on a Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Crave New World.

Speaker 8 Find it in Kroger Isles this October. The road trip might be over, but dinner's just getting good.

Speaker 1 How's a golf game right now? Are you in peak? Do you golf all summer in Florida? Because that's got to be miserable weather.

Speaker 11 No, I go up to Nantucket in the summer. I'm not down here.
I get out of, yeah, it's way too hot. But yeah, I play a decent amount in the summertime.

Speaker 11 Not as much as during the winter because I usually just play play when the kids are in school.

Speaker 1 How's the game going?

Speaker 11 My game's probably the best it's ever been. I'm playing well, steady,

Speaker 11 right around like 77, 78,

Speaker 11 pretty much every day.

Speaker 5 That's pretty good. What did you think about Tigers brand's rollout yesterday? Did you like it?

Speaker 1 His what?

Speaker 5 The rollout of his brand. Tigers knew the logo and all that shit that everyone was pissed off about.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Wit said it looked like,

Speaker 11 what's that? It's like a chain fish store, like a fish restaurant, like fish bones or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, bone fish grill. Yeah, bone fish grill.

Speaker 11 He said it looked like that, which I was dying laughing at.

Speaker 11 Yeah,

Speaker 11 I don't know. I don't love it, but

Speaker 1 I don't know. Yeah, Roback's way better.
That's why I brought it up.

Speaker 1 How long does it take you to get news? Because you're not online. Like, when did you find out OJ died? Did you find out when we said it on the podcast? OJ? Simpson?

Speaker 1 The running back?

Speaker 11 No, actually, my group chat with my buddies back home is probably where I get all my news.

Speaker 1 That's scary.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 And I'm one of those guys, like, I don't look stuff up. Like, I like to ask, like, you know, old school, like, ask people instead of looking things up.
So I like to ask people.

Speaker 11 So people, if I ask a question, someone could lie to me and I just believe it.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. We might have to start lying to Yans.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we'll have to implant some news into you next time you're on the show. Yeah.
That's fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Yans, we'll have you back on maybe cup final.
We also got to get you up here to play some golf.

Speaker 1 We got to do a golf video. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I told Hank, you guys got to play Butler National. It's my favorite course in

Speaker 11 Chicago, but it's an amazing track.

Speaker 6 And then I looked it up and it was like one of the most private clubs. You know, you got to know someone.

Speaker 1 Oh, Yance got us in there. Yeah, we know Yance.

Speaker 1 He'll get us in.

Speaker 11 As long as you're cocky about the Bruins and the Celtics, I got you.

Speaker 1 Oh, deal. There it is.
There it is. All right, Yans.
Thanks so much, man.

Speaker 11 Yeah, thanks for having me, boys.

Speaker 9 Man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 7 When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts. That's where Snickers comes in, man.

Speaker 7 That thing is packed. Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk chocolate.
It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 7 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this.
Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 7 Snickers satisfies, man. That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's wrap up the show. Firefest of the week.
Henry.

Speaker 11 Yes.

Speaker 1 Good. Thank you.

Speaker 6 Wearing a hat.

Speaker 6 I am wearing a hat. Good point.

Speaker 6 I worked out this morning and haven't showered yet, so I'm still, I had to throw the hat on.

Speaker 1 You look strong. I've been working out.
I've been grinding. Your legs look strong.

Speaker 5 Like, they got some bounce in them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Your whole body looks strong.

Speaker 6 Turning into an athlete. No one.
Did you say this is gaslighting?

Speaker 1 No. Oh, okay.

Speaker 6 Because you guys are being honest, like you always are. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Actually, we were gaslighting. Damn.

Speaker 5 Yeah. You look strong.
You're going to dunk in no time.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And Hank, he is so strong.

Speaker 5 If I were Hank, I'd probably even quit training because he's already so strong. Probably doesn't need to work out anymore.

Speaker 6 Have we settled on the, are we going to do that at the top of the show? Yeah.

Speaker 1 We already did. Got it.

Speaker 8 People already listened to it.

Speaker 5 How do you think it went?

Speaker 6 Well, you guys, you guys, you guys probably folded and listened to what everyone said. Actually, I won't.

Speaker 1 What do you mean, listen? I won't listen to what everyone said. Let's just do it right now.
Let's do it. No, no, no, no, because it's going to be at the top of the show.

Speaker 1 We already talked about it.

Speaker 5 What did everyone say?

Speaker 6 I'm not going to give away my hand. Okay.
Madras never reveals the secrets.

Speaker 6 But speaking of comments, and usually, you know, we're pretty elusive to comments, don't let them get to me.

Speaker 6 But I went on our our youtube the other day and the top comment just said hank feels like he hasn't wanted to do the show in three years oh that hurt my feelings that's not true yeah you can't it's been fun you can't let

Speaker 1 you can't let the comments get to you because there's always

Speaker 1 there's always someone who's going to say something mean like there's all there could be a hundred comments one could be mean 99 could be good the only one you're going to actually read is the one and then it will ruin your day well it's usually like you know if it's in my own personal you know twitter instagram whatever i'm used to just not you know filtering them out.

Speaker 6 It's when you catch a ricochet.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Like you're not expecting. You're not expecting it.
You're like, oh, let's see what people say about the episode.

Speaker 6 And it's like the number one comment is just like, Hank looks like he hates doing the show. And I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 5 No, hey, that was Hank. If you've noticed Hank, he has not been cocky Hank.
And he's been having, like, you can see it on his face.

Speaker 5 He's not being honest with us and not being honest with you, the listener, by not fully embracing his confidence and his cockiness.

Speaker 1 And it's only three years. We're talking three years.

Speaker 5 The defense mechanism is to just go,

Speaker 5 but, oh, hold hold on.

Speaker 6 I blame not having a desk over here.

Speaker 1 Oh. Not knowing what to do with it.
We'll get you a desk.

Speaker 1 Let's unpack this because remember, we also had a month where you had to do your stand-up special. So now we're down to two years, 11 months that you haven't wanted to do the show.

Speaker 5 And then the whole Lighthouse thing. The Lighthouse thing.
That affected him from September. That was September through December.
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 1 I have never felt like you don't want to do the show, except for that time you asked us to not do the show anymore.

Speaker 6 That was more than three years ago.

Speaker 1 That was more than three years ago.

Speaker 5 Actually, that was exactly three years ago when he said, I don't want to do the show anymore.

Speaker 4 I also had to do a vlog for an ad where I said in the video that Hank does nothing.

Speaker 1 Oh, so it's tough. And Hank does a lot.
To be fair to Hank,

Speaker 4 that was for the bit.

Speaker 5 The full story behind Hank not wanting to do the show wasn't because he didn't like doing the show. It was because he wanted...
For the show. It was because he wanted to

Speaker 5 take on bigger responsibilities across the board.

Speaker 5 You didn't know if you'd have time to do the show.

Speaker 6 I just didn't like listening to my voice. Yeah.
Really, being honest.

Speaker 1 When you had to edit it yourself, I've never felt like you didn't want to do the show.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 you can't let the comments get

Speaker 6 that was getting close to a butt.

Speaker 1 No, I've never really, like, there's, I mean, there's, listen, here's real talk. We've been doing the show for a fucking long ass time now, eight years.

Speaker 1 If you've been listening for eight years, there has been times when the show has been like humming. There's been times when it's dipped.
There's, it just goes in waves. Like, that's just what it is.

Speaker 1 Like, what other podcasts, there's not many podcasts with this many people who have been doing it for this long.

Speaker 1 Like, there's podcasts that have one person who does the show, and they have guests that, like, you know what I mean? Like, that's a different dynamic.

Speaker 1 So, I've never felt like, oh, man, Hank hates us or doesn't want to be here.

Speaker 5 No, I've definitely, I've thought that Hank hates us.

Speaker 1 Also, I feel like we're in a great, we've been, we've been humming for a while now. Yeah, like, I thought, I feel like I love coming to work every day.
Like, there's, I love doing the show.

Speaker 1 If, if we're a stock market, there's been times when it's like, oh, okay, yeah, it dips a little bit. I feel like we've been rising for a while and putting out great shows.
So, I don't, no.

Speaker 5 And Hank, I want you to know you're appreciated thing. But also, I appreciate the comment section.

Speaker 1 Of course. I just love to.

Speaker 5 I love every single internet comment out there.

Speaker 5 God bless you guys.

Speaker 1 I also, I think that, like, we, as human beings, just weren't ready for the internet as it exists today. Like, having...

Speaker 1 People who are passionate about the show comment on every single like minutiae and try to look into every little, like, what do you mean by that? What is these guys not like?

Speaker 1 We weren't built for that type of feedback.

Speaker 5 um so you got to just kind of ignore it like no human being's brain can handle that amount of feedback constantly coming at you i've said that for years that the the weird part about when the show took off and and got big is that the human brain it was not evolved for millions of people to have an opinion about you yeah that's just not something that anyone has ever had to deal with until the last like maybe

Speaker 6 three four hundred years on earth so yeah don't let it get don't let it get you down hey i'm not getting down i just you know i i gotta i gotta i don't know, pick it up somehow.

Speaker 1 I love you like a brother. Buy back in.

Speaker 5 You're gonna dunk on those comments. Yes.
Family. You guys are.

Speaker 1 I mean, we're gonna get to a point, Hank,

Speaker 1 where... How old are you? 30? 30.

Speaker 1 So we still got a

Speaker 1 few years to go, but like, there will be a point in the next six, seven years where it's like, I've known you for half your life.

Speaker 6 I said that the other day to someone, and they kind of laughed at me, but I do believe it. Like,

Speaker 1 10 to 20.

Speaker 6 You don't remember zero to 10.

Speaker 6 And you're in no control. Like, you don't have have any thoughts of your own.
You're not doing what you want to do. 10 to 20, you know, you have what you like.
You have your friends.

Speaker 6 You kind of make decisions. And obviously, like, you're still not in full control, but you're in more control of your life's and interests.
And then, so I have that.

Speaker 6 And then 20 to 30, it's just been, you know, with you and Barbara. Yeah.
So it feels like half my life. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right. And so that's why also when people

Speaker 1 try to, you know, not mentally get,

Speaker 1 they try to, what's the word I'm looking for, BFT? Help me. Manipulate? No, no, no.

Speaker 5 They try to mentally trick you. What are you saying?

Speaker 1 No, they try to think of what you're thinking. They try.
That's what I'm trying to do right now. No, fuck.

Speaker 11 God damn it.

Speaker 6 Teleport.

Speaker 5 God damn it. I don't know what word you're looking for.

Speaker 1 No, it's bad. So you're trying to think of a word.
I'm trying to think of that word. If someone tries to

Speaker 1 be like, this is what this person is thinking without knowing them.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Placate.
No. No.
Inception. No.
God damn it. This is going to be bad.
I'm not even going to try.

Speaker 5 You're trying to put yourself in somebody else's shoes?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but not really. You're trying to...
Oh, man, this is bad.

Speaker 5 I don't even know how you look that up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know either. This is bad.
Someone help me. Someone get me.
Give me that life line.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's Uzbekistan. This is Uzbekistan.

Speaker 1 God, say the definition again? Like,

Speaker 1 if I'm watching someone else's podcast, I'm like, oh, this person feels this way, but we don't have any idea how they actually feel.

Speaker 1 We're trying to basically put like thoughts into their head. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Empathy. No.
I typed in when you don't want to know how someone feels empathy is the first thing they can feel.

Speaker 5 But you're projecting your own thoughts into their head.

Speaker 1 No, yeah. Whatever.
Either way, the point is, someone will tell me what

Speaker 1 is rattling around in the little piece of brain that I have that works.

Speaker 1 Anyway. Allocate.

Speaker 1 People are going to try to be like, Hank's feeling this way from a little moment. that they watch when they don't realize that we have a ton of moments that they're not watching,

Speaker 1 that we are working together, friends, doing all these things, constantly communicating.

Speaker 1 So, and I'm not saying the person's wrong because that's all they get, but if they saw the full picture, they would never think what they're thinking as that Hank doesn't want to do the show.

Speaker 1 That was the least eloquent way I could ever put something.

Speaker 5 It makes sense, though. Yeah.
But now I'm trying to think of that word, too.

Speaker 1 I basically just did like four fullback dives to get a first down.

Speaker 1 Just ugly as fuck, just running it right up the middle, and we got there. I think we moved the chains.

Speaker 5 Word about what somebody is anticipating.

Speaker 1 It's something specific. Someone's going to tell me, and they're like, I'm going to feel like the dumbest person ever.
Yeah. Which is not.

Speaker 8 I mean, I had a moment earlier this week where I thought out loud.

Speaker 1 I thought out loud that the floors weren't invented till 1850.

Speaker 5 Floors? Floors. What do you mean? Like hardwood floors?

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 There's nothing more to say about that.

Speaker 5 Is it anticipate what somebody else is saying? Project?

Speaker 6 Oral sensory seeking.

Speaker 1 We've got to move on.

Speaker 1 We got to move on.

Speaker 5 You're projecting. Yeah, maybe projecting.
Projecting what you're thinking. Yeah, maybe projecting.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 All right, you're Firefest PFT.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we love you, Hank.

Speaker 5 I love you, Hank. My Firefest.

Speaker 1 Love you guys. Fuck.
Thanks, Hank. I fucking love you.
I love you, too. I'd fucking die for you.

Speaker 5 I'd die for you too.

Speaker 1 Maybe I wouldn't die for you.

Speaker 5 I don't know if I'd die for you.

Speaker 5 I would take like a bullet to the arm for you.

Speaker 6 If someone else wanted to die for you guys instead of me, I'd be down to let them. Fasoli.
But if it was, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 I'd die for you, Hank.

Speaker 6 I'd die for all of you guys. Thanks.

Speaker 1 Really? Yep. Fuck.

Speaker 1 You know what? I'd fucking die for you guys.

Speaker 4 I'd just die for Hank.

Speaker 1 Oh, not us, Max?

Speaker 1 Mimes, who would you die for?

Speaker 1 I'd kill for you guys. Oh!

Speaker 1 Respect. That's what I'm talking about, memes.

Speaker 5 It's my dog. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so we got a couple people. Darren Revell.

Speaker 5 Who else we got? Well, I was going to say OJ, but nature took care of that.

Speaker 8 Yeah, maybe it was memes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Thanks, memes.

Speaker 1 Thank you, memes. Hat tip, memes.
All right, your Fire Fest BFT.

Speaker 5 My Fire Fest is, again, Blake-related because I just found out yesterday. He's had his shoulder problems, right? And I'm like, what's going on with this dog? He can't walk.
He's limping around.

Speaker 5 We gave him rest. He's just been chilling.
Still limping around. Took him in yesterday for a CT CT scan, cat scan, which is ironic because he's a dog.

Speaker 5 But they scanned him, and his shoulder's fine, but both of his elbows are messed up. So he's getting double elbow surgery.
What? Next Thursday. Tommy John? He's getting double Tommy John.
Holy shit.

Speaker 5 Next Thursday. Jeff Passon's got a right of it.
Jeff Passon needs to, like, is it overuse? Is it the uniforms? What is it? Was he not trained as a young dog to play other sports besides jumping?

Speaker 1 So what does double elbow surgery look like?

Speaker 5 So I thought about that. I was like, is he going to have like casts on each each arm where he's going to be in

Speaker 5 a front wheelchair? Yeah. So apparently it's like it's scope.
So they say he's going to walk out of the hospital that day. Oh, they're going to clean something up.

Speaker 5 But then it's just, yeah, it's a cleanup surgery. Like Mark Pryor had seven of those.
It turned out fine. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So Blake is going to be on not necessarily bed rest, but just like walking around rest, no running rest for almost the whole summer. But then he should be good after that.

Speaker 5 But yeah, he's going to come home from the hospital with two big, like soft casts on each arm. Double elbow surgery is a crazy thing to go under.

Speaker 5 There's somebody in a TV show, I feel like, broke both their arms.

Speaker 1 Are you thinking of Ricky Bobby?

Speaker 5 Yeah, Ricky Bobby. Yeah.
Yeah, but that was... Both his legs.
Both his legs. Yeah, and they weren't actually broken.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's...

Speaker 5 Dog's arms are kind of legs, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like the old where would dog wear pants? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 I would assume that it would be around the neck, right? Because

Speaker 5 they're all legs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're all legs. All four legs.
They have four legs. They don't have to.
That's good that you're not doing this surgery before your Kentucky Derby party. That would have sucked for Blake.

Speaker 5 It's really good, yeah. Blake's going.
This is his last hurrah. He's going to jam out.
It's his bachelor party.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so anything that you need your dog to do with two legs, let me know what I should do with Blake in his last week on his original legs. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Double elbow.

Speaker 5 Double elbow surgery at the same time, which is good because if it was one elbow and then another elbow like six months later, he'd be like, fuck this. I don't want to go through rehab again.

Speaker 5 I already know this.

Speaker 1 I'm not doing it.

Speaker 5 That's the other thing. I got to take him.
I got to put him on like underwater treadmills and get him rehabbed. That rocks up.
Yeah, he's going to have a blast.

Speaker 1 You got to get a GoPro to get video of it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I should. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. My Fire Fest is, I've talked to Hank and PFT about this, and it's not a Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 It's a, I have a funny content idea that's not funny at all, Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 My daughter's class has lice, lice outbreak. She does not.
We've checked every single day, but it's crazy how fast the lice just goes around like a

Speaker 1 preschool.

Speaker 1 It was like, boom, boom. Oh, it's in this classroom.
Oh, no, it's in this. Oh, it's literally everywhere.
Either way, don't have lice in my house. Thank God.
Knock on wood. Checked every day.
No lice.

Speaker 1 But when I was telling PFT and Hank,

Speaker 1 it did dawn on me that it would be very funny if we had a lice outbreak here at Barstill, Chicago.

Speaker 8 So funny how.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 the idea.

Speaker 1 I have the idea. I don't know where, how it gets to make money and have everyone laugh.
But the idea is get a lice outbreak in the office.

Speaker 5 So I swear to God, I forgot about this conversation that we had a couple days ago.

Speaker 5 There's a nugget of a good idea in there somewhere. We've got to figure out how to present it.
I know. Hank, that's what you want to do, right?

Speaker 5 That's why you wanted to leave part of my take for good three years ago.

Speaker 1 This is a race. We got to talk out the idea.
It's a great idea.

Speaker 5 As head of content,

Speaker 5 you have to help us figure out how to turn this little nugget into a great package presentation that's fully sponsored. Just think of that thumbnail.

Speaker 1 That thumbnail. Yeah, we you all got lice.

Speaker 1 Like, lice invades Barsville Sports.

Speaker 4 It's so funny with, like, Nigga smokes his hair and, like, a scared face.

Speaker 1 Do you know what he needs? What happens?

Speaker 6 If you get bad lice, what actually happens? Shampoo.

Speaker 1 There's a shampoo for it.

Speaker 6 But, like, worst case scenario, say you didn't know you had lice. No, you know.

Speaker 1 Untreated lice. You know, because you scratch.
It's itchy.

Speaker 5 What I was going to say is I completely forgot about this conversation with you. I woke up this morning, swear to God, my head was super itchy.
Uh-oh. And I spent all morning just scratching my head.

Speaker 5 Took a shower, shampooed, didn't look for any lights or anything. But now I'm worried because I had an abnormally itchy head this morning.

Speaker 1 You might have lights.

Speaker 5 Do you want to look?

Speaker 1 No, I don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, Co, you look. You look.
No, you look.

Speaker 1 I said you look close. Do you need like a contact? You're a refine glass.

Speaker 1 I said it's. Let's figure it out.

Speaker 5 I swear to God, my head was super itchy this morning. I'm not joking.

Speaker 5 All right, Big Cat's looking through.

Speaker 5 The matching hoodies. This is nice nice visual.
We're like a couple monkeys picking bugs off each other.

Speaker 1 No, I think. Am I clean?

Speaker 5 No, you have dandruff.

Speaker 1 I have dandruff? Yeah, you need the same color. Yeah, no, you have dandruff.

Speaker 1 You need the dandruff shampoo. I have dandruff? I use the dandruff shampoo.

Speaker 5 I've never had dandruff. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just have dandruff. You just need some dry skin.
No, I've got Eric.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Dandruff is perfectly fine. Normal.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just use some...
Use some...

Speaker 1 Sell some blue. Well,

Speaker 5 that's a load off my back because for about 30 seconds seconds there, I thought you don't. I was putting the pieces together.
I didn't see any bugs. It's just some dandruff.

Speaker 1 Okay. Um,

Speaker 1 so yeah, back to the lice. How do we do it? I think maybe we need to get a sandbox and make everyone bring backpacks every day because that's lice go,

Speaker 1 they can survive in sand. That's how it happens a lot with like, you know, kindergarten and all that stuff.
Yeah. So maybe that's what we do.
And then I'll get the lice.

Speaker 5 In a jar?

Speaker 1 No, I'll put them in my head. Your head.
And then I'll be patient zero and I'll I'll just pass it around and we'll be like,

Speaker 1 yeah, think about the thumbnail. It's going to happen when COVID happened.
It's kind of like maybe like a Mr.

Speaker 6 Beast type video. Like the first person to knock at Lice wins.

Speaker 5 Lice survivor.

Speaker 1 I wonder if we could die the lice so we could see him more clearly. Day glow? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Just replace all the lights with UV lights.

Speaker 1 Someone figure out how to get from

Speaker 1 Office Gets Lice to make money funny.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let us know. Sound off in the comments.

Speaker 1 What, Max? You got?

Speaker 4 Max has something. No, this is just so random that I don't.
You brought up UV lights. Did you see that there's a college baseball team that's just doing a complete UV

Speaker 4 baseball game with a black light? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Glow-in-the-dark uniforms and balls.

Speaker 5 Savannah bananas? No.

Speaker 1 I'll say it. Black lights suck.
Yeah. Okay, because I don't come in my pants, but I always, when I see a black light, I'm like, did I come in my pants? Oh, yeah, in like a hotel room?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, or or like a bowling alley. I go to a black light bowling alley, and you're like, I don't, I don't remember ever coming in my pants, but who put this cum on my pants?

Speaker 5 I think from time to time, black lights are black lights matter to me.

Speaker 1 Black lights matter. Oh, this is actually awesome.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it is. That does look cool.
This is very cool.

Speaker 1 But do you guys not have the same fear whenever you go to like a black light bowling alley? You know, you know that there's not a problem. You're a spill guy.
There could be a problem.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is very cool. We should do a black light.
Pardon my take yeah there's probably come in this studio

Speaker 5 or something you think anyone's in the studio no i have not

Speaker 1 i have not pug i have not i have not i have not pug pug is not here to answer memes i have not oh a lot of people have been in this office memes memes definitely has uh okay jake finish this off yeah on a similar note um i've also twice yeah i've been itchy this week but it's because i got freaking destroyed by mosquitoes when i was in florida Florida.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Crushed. You don't got the marks to show it.

Speaker 10 It was really bad.

Speaker 6 No bugs, probably?

Speaker 1 After the first day, learned your lesson too late. Jake, are you one of those guys who's like, bugs for some reason like me more than ever? Yes.
My blood. Everyone's like, you have sweet blood.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 Remember that time we went to.

Speaker 10 Oh, sorry.

Speaker 9 Disc golf? I know that.

Speaker 1 No, Frisbee golf. Fuck that.
We say whatever we want. Remember when we went on Long Island and we got

Speaker 1 destroyed. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Billy got AlphaGal. Yeah.
It was so bad.

Speaker 10 This is similar to that.

Speaker 1 Bugs, yeah.

Speaker 1 That sucks that you missed the first day.

Speaker 1 Like the first day with the bug spray. Mom, I'll be back next week and I'll be prepared.
I like a good bug bite.

Speaker 5 How many did you kill, Jake?

Speaker 1 What was that, Max? That's just a horrible

Speaker 1 worse. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I agree with you. I don't like a lot of bug bites.

Speaker 4 No, you don't want any.

Speaker 1 But one or two good bug bites and you can itch it, I kind of like it.

Speaker 12 Yeah, but then it starts bleeding and the scabs and the scars come.

Speaker 1 I'd rather have three bug bites than one.

Speaker 5 If you have one, then that's all you're thinking.

Speaker 4 Well, scabs on each arm.

Speaker 1 If you have one, you just assume it was a spider that bit you and the spider bite.

Speaker 1 I'd like a good bug bite. Just a good old-fashioned bug bite.
Like maybe on the top of your shin.

Speaker 1 Nice little spot. You can scratch it a little.

Speaker 1 I feel like

Speaker 1 no one's with me.

Speaker 5 I feel like you might be on an island without a bad one.

Speaker 9 I'd like to have mosquito bites and lice and be like, what was I thinking?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but no one's with me? All right. No,

Speaker 5 that might be a little like S ⁇ M thing where it's like a little bit of pain feels good. Just one.
Sometimes feeling bad feels just like watching the create in a place like this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's just like one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one good bug bite. I don't want a lot.
Anything more than a couple, and you're just like, this fucking sucks. I can't believe I forgot to put on bug spray, which Jake's going through right now.

Speaker 1 But a single bug bite on the top of your shin. There's a little itch.
Not so bad.

Speaker 9 I'll give you some of my blood, and maybe they'll come fine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll do a blood transfusion.

Speaker 5 Get some of that young blood, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 We should do it. We should.

Speaker 1 We should a blacklight blood transfusion with lice.

Speaker 5 And then we should make all our our younger employees give their blood to us.

Speaker 1 This feels like an extra day has just been an extended brainstorming session. Yeah, it's been good.
Give it to go.

Speaker 5 Okay. Lice thing.
I do think that we can work with that.

Speaker 1 Yes, thank you. Because I remember when I initially said it, you're like, that's a bad idea.
I'm happy that you've seen the lice.

Speaker 5 I think you get two teams and then see which one can get fully covered in lice.

Speaker 8 A game of tag with lice?

Speaker 1 Lice cross. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Lice are so gross. Remember when Clay Travis just willing?

Speaker 8 He said his kids had lice?

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, because he was mad at the airline for not letting him fly.

Speaker 1 Siding with the airline there. Yeah.
Only time ever.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Good show, boys.

Speaker 1 Numbers. 8.
20. 246.

Speaker 9 18.

Speaker 1 What number is lice? 3.

Speaker 8 What number is lice? 99 pug.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 1 10 to 15. I'll go 10.
Whoa, what was that? 10.

Speaker 5 10.

Speaker 5 Any questions you want to ask?

Speaker 5 What? Is there a question you'd like to ask somebody?

Speaker 1 Why? Oh, Pug.

Speaker 4 PFT, have you ever got this?

Speaker 1 Oh, no. I was just asking Pug and Shane if they fucked in the studio.
Is that what you were talking about? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Pug, Shane, have you fucked in the studio?

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Have you got any shots?

Speaker 1 No, not yet.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice.

Speaker 1 Max, have you ever gotten this?

Speaker 12 Nope.

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Speaker 1 I would like to be added to the Wall of Fame.

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