Randy Moss is Talking Kentucky Derby, NHL Playoffs W/ Keith Yandle, The Sixers Get Bounced And Cocky Hank's Return

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have our good, good friend, the OG Randy Moss talking Kentucky Derby. It's Kentucky Derby weekend.
We love having Randy Moss on. We're going to give you some picks.
He's going to talk about the race on Saturday, some picks on Friday. We also have our good friend Keith Yandel on to talk some hockey.
Great hockey talk with him. We're going to recap the playoff games tonight.
The Sixers are gone. The Celtics are advancing.
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I know we're not supposed to look ahead in the playoffs. I wanted a game seven.
I wanted the Sixers truly to win the series. I wanted them to advance.
I wanted Celtic Sixers at some point down the line looking ahead, and I feel like we were robbed of that. But credit to the Knicks.
The Knicks, they won. Oh, the knicks and and they're a very good team well coached fun to watch it they're they're just dogs they just dominate the offensive glass they they they are a mirror image of their coach jalen brunson had a uh tough first what couple games he then finished the last four games of this series, 39 points, 47 points, 40 points, 41 points.
Yeah, crazy. Controlled the whole game.
Controlled it all. Also, I think Tibbs might be going bald.
Have you noticed that? You just noticed that? Tom Thibodeau. I think he's going bald for a while.
It's probably reached the time. I didn't notice it until just now because he's always had a little bit of hair on there.
He's got the couple strands that are swooped over to give you the illusion of hair. No, yeah, I know.
I've noticed it for seven years. But it's time, Tom.
Yeah. Doc Rivers also.
Doc Rivers bald? Well, he's got the line and then there's just nothing on top. So it you know, when Manifest Destiny and we started making states out west, I'm like, all right, we're just going to do, we're just going to make this one a rectangle.
Yeah. He's Utah.
Utah. He's Utah's state border.
Yeah. No, but Tom is probably the goat of it's time to come home.
Yeah. But it's also never.
But he's not going to do it. Yeah, because that's what he, he doesn't care.
He doesn't care. He cares about basketball.
Yeah about basketball yeah that's it if he's getting a haircut that's less time that he's grinding film yeah i did see one nicks fan that was really impressed this was i think maybe over the weekend uh tom thibodeau was pumping gas at a gas station somebody took a picture of him they're like oh my god tom thibodeau gritty guy even pumps his own gas that's wild yeah that man pumped his own gas that's nuts it's crazy that must be a new jersey nick fan i guess so yeah They don't pump their own gas. That's wild.
That man pumps his own gas. That's nuts.
It's crazy. That must be a New Jersey Knick fan.
I guess so, yeah. They don't pump their own gas.
Yeah, it was a great series. I wish we would have had another game.
I liked the back and forth between New York and Philly, too. I like the fact that New York is all in.
It's good. It's a good sports town where they have a good team that's cooking.
Oh, yeah. So I'm excited for the city of New York.
I feel bad for the city of Philadelphia. However, happy Tobias Harris is no longer your problem day, Max.
Yeah. Max, also, you said at the end of the game, this one feels different.
I agree with you, but I didn't hear your reasoning. So unload on us.
Well, first of all, this is the first offseason where we have cap space and we have some room to make a difference in our lineups. Maybe LeBron James, maybe Paul George.
And Bronny to Villanova. Obviously, it would be nice to get Paul George or LeBron James.
And even if we don't, just using that Tobias money to go get guys like Dante like the role players that the Knicks had who are really good that going get guys like that who can surround and beat and hit shots which to be fair tonight all the role players were fantastic so I can't even really complain about that except for Tobias Harris zero points last game was a sixer and the Knicks role players were not good yeah they had five they had five points off the bench like their starters did everything so like that was something that like going into this year going like going into the night that's what that was like the silver lining like in the back of your head and it also feels different like i know joe ellen beat gets a ton of shit he had a great series he had a fantastic series minus a fantastic series. Minus all the WWE shit.
Minus the WWE shit. Yes.
Yes. Minus the WWE shit.
But he was really good tonight. Closeout game.
That's a huge gripe that he's had against him in his whole career. Agreed.
Is that he's been terrible in closeout games. He was fantastic tonight.
39 points. Absolute dog.
Third quarter, like, really kept us in it. When Maxie couldn't really do anything.
The end game maxi kind of maxi was the one that hit the big and one to tie it up and we just made plays in this series that were very different than past sixers losses a lot of other times it was like we we choked we choked the celtic series we choked the hawks series and you go into the offseason be like what do? What are we going to do? Like, last year we were like, we're going to lose James Harden. We're going to be a worse team next year.
How are we going to come back from this? It was. Damn, he was on a really good path there.
Sorry, sorry, sorry. And it was like a rational, reasoned Max that we were getting.
Sorry. And you know what? And you might have just triggered it.
I don't think that we were worse this year. Personal growth for Max because in that moment, Max wanted to jump through the glass and strangle Hank with his own microphone cord.
Yeah. Max took a deep breath, composed himself.
I think he's on the right track. Hank, please don't do that again.
I apologize. Sorry, Max.
You're not sorry. But it also was a very funny you were.
Incorrect. Yes.
Well, yes. Joel Embiid missed 50% of the season.
So, yes, technically they won less games this year than they did the year prior. Correct.
So good job, Hank. Didn't go as far in the playoffs.
Well, yeah, when you're the seventh seed and you have to go to the two seed in the first round, it's not exactly the same. Right.
So maybe get a little bit of context one time, Hank. Well, maybe if you build a team around someone that's not made out of class and they wouldn't miss half the regular season,

then they could go and have a better season.

These are all fair.

He's trying to cut your mic.

He's trying to cut your mic.

I actually think it's fair points on all sides.

No, it's not.

This is a great conversation.

Hank is upset that I'm acting rationally right now,

and he wants me to get angry, and I'm not going to do it.

You're not going to do it. We're not even going to bring up the butt crack the butt crack was bad it wasn't that bad it wasn't that bad I see more of your ass on a daily basis yeah but do you understand like watching this series there were so many things that were not sixer like yes that happened I agree with you but the way that you're it I think you're 100% right and it's all positive positive stuff.
Like, I think that this is something that you can build off of. You're being, people want you to be sad and angry, and yes, there is that part of it.
But with the cap space and the way they fought in this series, especially Joel Embiid, like, having injuries, illnesses, everything, and Tyrese Maxey kind of taking that next step of like, oh, fuck, he is a killer. I agree with you.
It sucks that the Sixers lost, but you're looking to next year being like, okay, if we can add this one piece, we might be in a really good spot next year. So fair points.
And people want you to be, you're being're being real you've always been real yeah no i don't like this is how i'm feeling right now i could go on like do this whole act of like getting really angry and just like this is how i'm feeling right now about when the podcast ends and you're you know going to sleep you know scrolling twitter and you see all the videos of nicks fans walking out of your home stadium yelling fucking bead you're is that going to anger you yeah it sucks but yes yes that will anger me what about that what do you want me to say I was just curious no I was asking a question just curious journalists could keep going uh Max Jalen Brunson is this obviously it was hard for you to root against your Nova guys but there were moments in this series where it felt like this relationship with Jalen Brunson might not recover because you were getting very angry, he does a really good job of being Trae Young of stopping in the lane of getting contact, of finishing through contact, he's not of those guys that one of my least favorite things that happens in the NBA is guys who constantly look for contact but aren't trying to actually finish the basketball. He does both exceptionally well.
How are you feeling about your Nova Knicks and that relationship? Josh Hart also just an absolute dog. He's never seen an offensive rebound that he didn't think he'd get.
How are you feeling? I need like two days. Yeah.
And also, like, I was getting very mad about the Brunson plays, but it's also not necessarily me getting mad at Brunson. He is such a savvy, acts like a guy who's played in the league for 15 years and knows the game so well, he knows he's getting those calls.
He should continue to try to get those calls. But if the league has made an emphasis on taking away that play and then just continuing to give it to him time and time again, it was very frustrating for me to see.
Yeah, and I agree with you that Maxie does not get the same calls that Brunson gets. Brunson, I think the difference is that Brunson, he plays a little bit more under control when he's driving.
He seems like he's got his feet under him. When Maxie drives sometimes, he's so fast.
Yeah. He'll run past you, and he'll just start flying through the air, and it looks like he got hit by a car.
No offense to Kelly Oubre. I think that Tyrese actually kind of plays.
Maybe. We don't know.
Maybe. We don't know.
With control. But you forgot about that, Hank, when you said they were worse.
Kelly Oubre might have gotten hit by a car. But he also might not have gotten hit by a car.
Correct. I don't know.
And he also crashed his Lambo a couple weeks ago. Schrodinger's wreck.
That one was real i think but but max what i'm saying

is like that's something that he can work on because right now he's just focused on getting getting the shot off getting to the basket he'll learn with more time and i think he'll eventually start to get those calls because this was a postseason where max he stepped up and it's like okay this is an emerging superstar right now i think it's all it's just the type of player too Jalen Brunson is just so good, and his body control knows exactly when a guy is in a bad position. And when we were talking to Caruso about it on Monday, his angles.
If you just shift a little bit, he knows, okay, I have you, and I also can get you in a position where you're going to leave your feet. I'm going to get a foul, and I also can score.
I think Maxey will learn some of that. But I think that they're two different games, and I don't think that they should switch.
Like, Maxey at times, yes, looks out of control, but he knows exactly the positioning of where he is in relation to the basket and where exactly he needs to put the ball on the glass for it to go in. There's so many times where he'll put up a shot around the rim and he'll have zero angle to it, but he knows exactly where to put it and what spin to put on it for it to go in.
So it's a little bit of controlled chaos that I think for Maxie, and I think that's part of what makes him really good. And he wasn't great tonight.
He was good in the fourth, but he was bad. He looked a little lost in the beginning of the game.
For sure. His shot was way off.
Yeah. Hank actually winced when I said emerging superstar in Maxie.
And we forgot to say Buddy Heald. Buddy Heald, yeah.
Buddy Heald game. He finally shot.
He was incredible. He finally shot, and then they went in the Buddy Heald game.
Also campaign game. Well, every game's's a campaign game per campaign yeah he tried to get his revenge against villanova yeah yeah you love that storyline thrown out there what a story in the final they brought that up in the broadcast yeah great storyline if you win so i imagine that there's some listeners out there that winced as well you you do not think that maxi is an emerging superstar no no no he is he's young enough he's good he's got potential maybe get him out of philly and he'll really you know take the next step i mean tyrese maxi is better than jalen brown for sure and for sure you would trade jalen brown for tyrese maxi immediately trade take that.
Somebody photoshopped Max's face with a soul patch onto it, onto that guy. Trade offer.
No. I decline that trade.
I decline that trade. Yeah, Hank, I think.
And I think Hank takes that trade. I think Brad Stevens would take that trade.
Yeah, maybe with their current contracts, but not off pure skill. I mean, Maxey's going's gonna get a max contract this summer jalen brown just signed like the biggest contract in nba history and he was about to get traded yeah good good recap of the series max i'm proud of you yeah that's just how that's just genuinely how i'm feeling right now i'm sure some sixers fans will be oh fake fan why aren fan, why aren't you crying? This is just how I'm feeling right now.
It feels different. And it also feels like the right team won this series.
I know that you might disagree, but we had the Game 2 fiasco. We also had Game 5, which was crazy, and it feels like it all kind of evened out.
And the Knicks were just the better team inside this series. it just and you could say injury you say whatever you want but I think that when you have that result where you're like yeah if they kept on playing if they played a million seven game series I think the Knicks would take four before the the Sixers every time in this iteration no every time if they played the series a million times in this exact setup, Hurt, Sick, everything, I just think the Knicks were like a million times.
Okay, maybe not a million times. I'm sorry.
I think if it was a 10-series series, I think the Knicks would win, I'd say like six. I think they'd win six out of ten seven games.
Yes, I agree. I agree with.
A ten series series.

The point differential was one point.

The point differential was one point.

They won four games before the six.

Yeah, but to say that if they do that series a million times,

they're going to win a million times is crazy.

I take back a million.

Just shut up about a million.

It's called a hyperbole.

900,000 out of a million.

Also, a ten series series is a ridiculous format.

It should be an 11 series.

Do you think the right team won this series?

The Knicks played very hard.

The better team.

The Knicks played very hard.

I think the right team won this series.

I'm sorry to say it.

A million times was wrong.

I strike a million times from the record.

When do we fucking do...

The Knicks played very hard.

When do we do semantics police here?

It's crazy. Hank, back me up.
I think part of part of it too it's kind of sad to see as as it's unfolded but i think max has just you know resigned to to losing these games yeah he's numb he was a little green when he came on the podcast and he was excited and he wanted to you know it's over be passionate philly fan and now he just knows he's going to lose.

Every time he watched in the gambling cave, he's like,

I always lose in here.

I always lose in here.

This game's over.

He's happy that he doesn't have to deal with it.

Yeah, he wasn't going to win the title, so it was like,

yeah, he wanted to win this series, but the loss was coming eventually.

Yeah, what used to be a bright, sunshiny day when he got to the playoffs,

it turns out that light is a freight train. He did have a bounce his step today though it was nice to see him bouncing around he kind of floats when he's got that going he does it was it was good yesterday i literally spent from morning until i went to sleep consuming all tyrese maxi content i would listen to every podcast that talked about him.
I watched every ESPN, like YouTube highlight.

And it was like so much fun to just be like.

Yeah.

I mean, we say it a million times.

Sports suck.

Rooting for sports suck.

Your team is not going to win 99% of the time.

So you got to enjoy the ride and you got to enjoy the big wins when they happen.

Speaking of, Hank, we'll talk about the Bucks Pacers.

But, Hank, you have talk about the Bucks Pacers, but Hank, you have taken down the heat, 4-1, easy win. Easy two wins, yeah.
Didn't even break a sweat. Didn't even break a sweat.
Congrats. You held them to, what, under 90 points.
You scored over 100 again. Just demolition.
Badge players played the last 10 minutes of the game. Yeah, you're going to be fresh.
Every other team in the East is injured. Or Giannis is out.
Bede is out. Well, yeah, the whole Sixers team is out.
No, that's what I'm saying. They're out of the playoffs.
He wasn't talking about injuries. Yeah, Giannis is out of the playoffs as well.
Got it.

You're still going to be measured game by game.

Sourpuss?

Yeah, a little bit.

Cocky Hank.

I'm positive vibes.

I've always been positive vibes.

I'm just calm, cool, collected.

But I have an offer for you, Hank.

You're going to kill the East, Hank. What do do you got because we do need cocky hank back so i'm willing to negotiate on one point if cocky hank does not make a return in this next series sounds like ransom he's negotiating if he doesn't come back okay i'll put it this way if cocky hank does come back we won't release the hank and drake may t-shirt okay do you want that t-shirt out i mean that picture is coming out and like no no no yeah it is no i like i did update it there is now a bruins flag and a leafs flag in the background if you guys want to release that and and start that i will i will come back and that's fine but i know you're going to hold it over my head no matter what like it's one of those things where if you're going to do it this way if you're just i'm not like no we're going to i don't keep asking you to do stuff and if you don't do it we'll release a picture just fucking release it no i want i doesn't negotiate with terrorists i'm not i don't i i'm throwing the picture side i just want cocky hank because you know i know we all know the celtics are going to the finals you know the east is a cakewalk there we go come on the cakewalk it should be they should lose one maybe two games what did i say original yeah yeah four and a half.
Whatever he said, crazy. He said seven and a half.
It should be three. The over-under should be three.
Maybe one series next game. You're playing the Cavs with the Magic next.
Yeah. Come on.
Where do they even show these games? There we go. NBA TV.
Cocky. It's back.
We're playing the NBA TV. They're barely even televised on the play-in game.
People like logging into their parents' YouTube account. Oh, man.
All right. Hank's back.
Here's the thing, Hank. I fully understand when all we want is Cocky Hank for the rest of the Eastern Conference playoffs.
Once you get to the final, you can deal with the finals however you want to because that's a totally different beast, and there's a lot of really good teams in the West. The East is a joke right now.
The East is a joke and as much as it's fun as it is to beat up on Philly and Philly fans in the playoffs, it has kind of gotten a little bit, I guess, stale just because it's happened over and over and over again. Knicks fans, they're high.
They're riding high right now. They got the whole.
They got the whole city riding high. They think they're the shit.
It would be great for them to beat Indiana probably in like seven games and then get all excited. Everyone's hyped up.
The garden buzzing and then just come out and smoke it. Yeah, we got the Big Apple against the Big Asshole.
Yeah, come on. Yeah, I'm back.
I want Knicks fans chanting, we want Hank after they win game one against Indiana.

It is ridiculous that they, I think it was after game two, they said, we want Boston.

Yeah, I mean, I love Knicks fans.

They're the worst, but they're also better back.

More delusional than Philly fans. No, but here's what's crazy about how likable this Knicks team is, how hard they play,

is they have turned the city of New York into an underdog, which is so hard to do. Knicks fans fucking suck now.
I'm talking about the team. I like Knicks fans.
I'm talking about the Knicks, just the team, not the fans. The team is fun to watch.
They're easy to root for. So there are going to be a lot of casuals.
Are they? I think so, yeah. They play hard.
I don't think New York's easy to root for in any sport. I think the Knicks are.
If they'reeltics like people are rooting for the knicks and that's yeah yeah i just like i mean nick listen when the knicks are good like new york is a basketball town first and it's like they're never good right but they're good now and oh not good cocky he just fucking it must feel so good for hank like you're letting it all yeah you're back like i see it on your face you're back well I just had people to see with the Heat. Like, you're letting it all...
Yeah, you're back. Like, I see it on your face.
You're back. Well, I just had people...
You are who you are. The Heat, like, the Heat...
The Heat got you scared. ...have had our number.
Yeah. That Game 2 game, and it's like, no, no, no.
Like, this can't be happening. I got rattled, and then, you know, the last two games...
Back to status quo. That's why I said it had to be three blowouts to get through the series.
We did. Our guy Derek White has been insane.

Everything just opens up.

Yeah, the whole team has played well.

And Porzingis, don't even play him against whatever, the Cavrics.

Just let him rest fully healthy for Knicks or Indiana.

Wait, that was the Cavrics.

That's the Mavericks and the Cavs?

Cavrics.

Cavics.

The Kajic.

The Kajics.

The Kajics.

Thank you. The Cavrix.
Cav. Yeah, that's the Mavericks and the Cavs? Cav.
Cav. Yeah.
Cav. Cav.
Cav. Cav.
Cav. Cav.
The Kajic. The Kajics.
The Kajics. Yeah, the Kajics.
The Mavelier. The Magileers.
Magileers, yeah. It's good to have you back.
Yeah, it feels really good. You know how, like, killer whales, their dorsal fin curls over when they're in captivity? That was Hank.
Hank's Tokate. Yeah.
He's just been flown across the country. Now his dorsal fins up.
Yeah, he was a dog with his tail between his legs. Now he's wagging his tail again, ready to go play some ball.
You're like Miss Peaches. Yeah.
Oh, Miss Hank. Tummy tags.
Tummy tags. Let me kiss that tummy.
Oh, no. Doesn't it feel good? It feels like a weight just came off your shoulder.
Because I understand. The Heat were the boogeyman for you.
They're scary in the fact that nothing makes sense with the Heat. But now, dude, the Magic, the Cavs.
Like you said, I mean, again, the finals is a problem. I'm not looking past the finals whatsoever.
That's going to be a whole different issue. We just got to hope that we get in there well-rested, Porzing back healthy and the next you know two series in the west are just seven games seven games seven games seven games yeah you're rooting for injuries again you're back i'm not rooting for injuries absolutely want that in the record i want every team at full health okay okay that's big of you um speaking of full health the bucks are out yannis never played in this It feels like he was pretty close.
If they got into a game seven, he might have. Dame came back, and the Pacers, I mean, the Pacers played with their food on, what was it, Tuesday night? Yeah, yeah.
They thought they could just roll out and win that game without Dame and Giannis there. And credit to the Bucs for showing fight there, but the Pacers are fun.
They run up and down hella burton's very fun yeah they're like they're just a fun young team we have a lot of that going on in the playoffs right now and now the bucks i feel like have like a lot of questions a lot of questions because the bucks yannis is still one of the best players in the nba uh but there's a no i don't want to die you know what i'm not get into it. Because the Packers fans are Bucs fans, and I don't...
Some people could say... Why don't you text it to me, and then I'll say it.
Okay. In the meantime, I'll just say that they do have a lot of weird decisions they have to make, because they don't know what they're going to do with this new iteration of the Bucs team, where they got Dame, they sacrifice defense, but then Dame gets injured, Giannis gets injured, so you don't really know what you have.
You don't know what pieces you truly need next year because there wasn't a big enough sample of work against the best teams to say where your team's really deficient. So who knows what they're going to do? They're going to throw a dart at the wall and figure out whether they want to run it back, whether they want to make a big change.
I don't know. I don't know what the Bucs are going to do.
But credit to the Pacers. Very fun team to watch.
Pat Bev? Hank's not worried. Pat Bev.
Built the ass. Pat Bev, ball to face.
Emotional. Pat Bev's an emotional guy.
Well, no, he's just having a catch. I thought that was just like a cool moment that even after they lost, he was like, you know, sharing a catch with one of the fans.
With one of the fans. That's a fan for life now.
Yeah. They're like, Pat Bev giving him a souvenir.
Threw me a chess pass. Hal Burton said, the reporter asked, hey, I saw you and Pat Bev exchange words at the end, like anything you want to share.
And Hal Burton just goes, just came up to me and said, good series. Melted ass.
So PFT has something he wants to say. The other thing I wanted to say earlier about the Bucs is that some people could argue that the Bucs championship was a fluke because it was off the bubble and all the teams that had to play a long season deep into the next year got bounced and the Nets got injured and beating Chris Paul isn't that impressive.

Some people would say.

I disagree.

With those people?

Yeah, I disagree. That was a real championship.

But now the Bucs do have some questions because it felt like after they won their first title, it was like, ooh, this is going to be the Bucs on top of the East for a while now. And they've had, again, injuries this year were very, very important because anytime you lose Giannis, and it was last year too because Giannis got hurt in that, but two back-to-back first-round exits for this Bucs team has a lot of people being like, well, what's going on here? Is Doc the answer? I don't know.
See, that's another thing we don't know. Probably not.
I'm going to say probably he's not the answer. With Giannis, you always are going to be contending.
But you went all in with this Dame Lillard thing. Again, the injuries, I'm not diminishing the injuries.
But if you're a Bucs fan, you're definitely, they have some big questions that are coming up that's what i was saying earlier if you're the bucks gm do you go based off the sample size you had of dame and yannis playing together this year and what that looked like and then use that to figure out what you're going to do in the offseason the moves you have to make well i mean because like we didn't get to see them in the playoffs together and so you don't know how they stack up against the best teams when you guys are both competing your hardest. Right.
So you kind of have to take a guess. And they also had a disappointing, weird year, and they still were playing for the two seed in the last week of the season.
So it's like put into perspective, they're still going to be okay with Giannis. Yeah.
Because he's that fucking good. Early who's back the week is Reggie Miller.
Yeah. Well, credit to the Pacers, by the way.
I think that's our first series win in like 10 years. I think that's Rick Carlisle's first win since he won it all with the Mavs.
I'm pretty sure. I'll look that up.
Yeah, it's been a minute. Yeah.
But yeah, there's going to be a of reggie miller talk hank's right yeah pacers nicks pacers nicks you think doug gottlieb was ever like reggie miller needs to fix a mechanical flaw in his shooting it's never gonna be good i actually thought doug gottlieb got unfair hate for that well it's he's the easiest target correct yeah but yeah anyone. But, yeah.
Anyone else than Doug Gottlieb?

So, if you missed it, Doug Gottlieb basically was like,

Caitlin Clark's shot is bad mechanics.

Do you think they'll try to work on that?

Doug Gottlieb is going to get shit on no matter what.

Every single professional athlete works on their mechanics constantly.

Tom Brady, like, constantly is working on his mechanics. Tiger Woods has changed his swing three times.
Ask that question isn't crazy. There might be a better way, a more efficient way to shoot, especially going right for Caitlin Clark.
It's not saying she's bad. She's incredible.
I think Tiger's changing his swing is what fucked him up. I think the implication was that it was broken.
Yeah, it's not broken. It's not broken at all.
He should have phrased it better. There could maybe be a way for her to become even better of a shooter.
Yeah, that would be a great way to phrase it. But every single professional athlete works on stuff like that constantly.
So I don't know. You're right about Riccardo, by the way.
His first series win since then? 2011 over the lebron's first year wow in the heat wait

no i i'm seeing right now he won some playoff series in 2021 check that double check oh no

maybe not i see oh yeah win loss yeah yeah you're right i see yeah six first round exits i'm right

yeah six missed playoffs yeah wow that's a long time for a really good coach uh so yeah credit

to the pacers they're fun they're young they're fun they run i love watching teams run

I'm sorry. Six missed playoffs.
Yeah. Wow.
That's a long time for a really good coach. So, yeah, credit to the Pacers.
They're fun. They're young.
They're fun. They run.
I love watching teams run. You miss shots on them, you're fucked.
Also, Clippers, Mavericks, Luka, incredible game. Kyrie, incredible game.
I think we called those. Yeah.
Credit to us for saying that Kyrie Irving and Luka Doncic were going to play well. We know ball.
We know. We know ball.
And then the Clippers are stuck again just being like we had the opposite James Harden. I thought maybe the extra rest, but should have known better.
It was classic James. Classic James Harden.
I think Nick Wright had a stat that he has the most games in playoff history with 10 shots and under 10 points, and it's like 30 of them. This is going to be a legacy game.
I'm calling it right now. This is a James Harden legacy game, and by that I mean I hope he scores less than 10 points.
Yeah, I think the Mavs are going to win this series. I mean, Luka is so good.
If James Harden goes out there and drops eight points, that cements him as the greatest playoff not care of all time. Yeah.
That one clip of Kyrie just like cruising through everyone. So easy.
Like he, it was so crazy to watch because Kyrie's such a good ball handler. His body was somehow out of control, but his ball handling stayed in control the whole time.
Yeah. He knows exactly what he operates at, Like, he processes things at such a good ball handler his body was somehow out of control but his ball handling stayed in control the whole time yeah he knows he knows exactly what he operates it like he processes things at such a fast speed right it's insane like you can't even if you watch him operate in real time you have no idea how he gets the ball in the basket it was so chaotic and then yeah and it was it still worked and yeah i love watching luca i mean he's he he does lead the league in bitching at everyone yeah but that just part of his game.
I think he's one of those guys that needs to just yell at fans, yell at refs to get going. Yeah, he'll yell at the ref after he makes a wide-open three-pointer.
He'll yell at anyone. And I try to figure out what he's screaming about.
I can't figure it out. Yeah.
But he likes to have it be him against the world. Yeah.
So that game six and also the Mavericks – or sorry, the Magic Cavaliers game six is Friday night. So we'll see if we can finish those series.
It does kind of suck that we're getting to Kentucky Derby Saturday. We're only going to have one NBA game.
Yeah, that's tough. Prayers for us.
Yeah, we have the Nuggets and the Wolves playing your game one. Hockey game seven.
Hank, should we talk about it? Let's have a conversation. The Bruins.
So the Bruins were up 3-1 in the series, huh? Then Austin Matthews not playing. What happened last year in the first round? What were you guys up? The Bruins were up 3-1, I believe.
Yeah, Fights tweeted out the stat that they're 0-6 in their last closeout games. But the Leafs are 2-9 in their last 11 Game 7s in the road.
Right, but that means they've won twice. Yeah, correct.
0-6? 0-6 in two years is almost impossible. That's pretty crazy.
That's really crazy. Shocking.
I think the Brews are going to win this game. Me too.
Are you going to be in the house? I'll be in the building. Oh, wow.
So there you go. That's all you need.
Hank, did you want the Bruins to win this game? Good question. Good question, Max.
Yes, I want the Bruins to win this game. Because I heard a rumor that before the game started, Hank said No, no, no, Hank.
I'm being a journalist. Ain't no phone when the rabbit got the gun, buddy Oh, shit Butt crap max is up your ass He's got buddied, pal He's got time All his teams are eliminated I mean, the Phillies are the best team in major leagues right now Is that a fact? The rumor Hold on, PFT I just want to Because this is's dream scenario.
He's got you now skipping down the Phillies. Braves are in first place.
Yeah. Just so we're clear.
What division are they in? Different games. Also in the Phillies division, yeah.
They're 20-9. We have more wins and more losses, so it's different.
Best team in baseball. So, Hank, there was a rumor that before this game started.
Started by so it's like how wait wait wait can i can i fish before this game started hank said would it be wrong if i wanted the bruins to lose this game so i could go to game seven fact or fiction that hey can i can i defend you for a sec please sounds like he was just asking a question that's all i was doing yeah and he didn't say he was rude he said would it be wrong we were talking to a group of fans and there was uh i think an intern i forget who was around and i was trying to test like what his sports fandom was like right so it was kind of like a quiz like quiz like pop quiz there's an intern around so could you answer that question of course it's bad yeah it's horrible you would never do so right now you're upset that you're gonna go to game seven on saturday yeah i was i was rooting for the bruins to win that game i was upset when they lost i was upset when the leafs scored uh i would i I wish we were live for when the Leafs scored that second goal. He was like, oh, no.
No, because Max was putting water in my mouth. He was like, no.
Hank, heart of hearts, your initial reaction was like, yes. No.
What would you say? Oh, no. No.
No. I was the only one watching the game.

Shut up, Max.

You're watching.

Everyone else is focused on the Knicks, Sixers.

I was actually watching the Bruins locked in.

Yeah, you were locked in to see if you could go to game seven.

That has nothing to do with it.

That's just a coincidence.

It's a coincidence, Max.

I will be in Boston.

It is a Saturday night.

We do have a great partner at Game Time that will be helping me get in the game.

I'm going to promote the company.

Hank, you're a company man.

I've seen this many times.

This is a work trip.

Hank always does the company first.

When did you first inquire about getting tickets to GameTime?

After the game.

Really?

Confirmed.

I'll show you the text.

After the .1 second that was put back on the clock?

After, well after.

Okay.

Interesting. Okay only i had one

other thing go look up your text 9 44 p.m okay the game ended at 9 47 p.m no i didn't that just made that i'm looking at it right now where let me see your computer froze hold on i can find it Okay.

Max, can you look it up?

Yeah, let me pull this up real quick.

No. computer froze hold on i can find it okay max can you look it up yeah let me pull this up real quick um not 947 vm yeah 947 so you might have inquired a little early there nope there uh joseph wool was awesome their goalie was so good yeah it took them like a period to even get a shot on goal,

but they played well.

Let's see.

Let's see.

Let's see, Hank.

Game seven.

Final.

The Leafs posted a final at 945, so he might be right.

Of course I'm right.

Wow, Hank.

I think he's not guilty. Thank you.
Yeah. So that was the first thing on his mind.
Yes, that's true. Good point.
Good point. He couldn't have done it faster.
But wait, Hank, what time did you say, Hank? You're absolutely right, Max. You couldn't have done it faster.
I think Hank said 944. He said 9.
Oh, I thought you said 947. No, I said 947.
Hank said 944. What time did you send the text? 944.
Oh, so you're guilty. Guilty, guilty, guilty.
The game was over. They had to make a fucking whole-ass graphic and cheat it.
No, you scored a goal. That's when the Bruins scored a goal, 945? No, they scored...
Yeah, they scored a goal. At 945.
You're going to make me do more work? No, I'm on it right now.

Boston Bruins, 944.

No, your PFT's lying.

I swear to God. Well, there was .1 seconds left.

Yeah, the game wasn't over.

The game wasn't over.

Big Cat right there.

Yep, 944.

944.

Bruins tweeted out.

Hey, liar.

After that.

Liar.

I asked you specifically about the .1 second, and you lied. I waited until whatever.
Okay, so Hank's very excited that the Bruins are going to game seven. Hank's very excited he's going to game seven.
I'm excited to have a chance to advance. Bruins got to play well.
Reverse the curse. Oh, Max, I have one last thing.
Do you have anything to say to Jerry O'Connell? He was all up your ass. Yeah, no, he, it was a masterclass that he put on me tonight and I, I don't, I didn't really know how to respond to it.
Um, I didn't know he was a Knicks fan. Number one, but he's been on my ass and congrats to him.
Congrats. I was going to say, awesome.
Just me and Friction Boy. Just me and you, Friction Boy.
It's a funny thing. Friction Boy.
Friction Boy. Wait, we got this one.
It was my favorite. Friction Boy! Fuck your life, Maxie! Fuck your life, Maxie! He also, Jerry is so committed to this show, he even used Max's Little League pronunciation

of his name in this one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Maxi Valenti.

Little U Small.

Little U Small.

Using it as one word is also just taking the game to a new level.

People are also tweeting at me that on his talk show today that he was talking shit on. Good.
That's awesome. I never saw the clip of it.
I'm imagining his fans that go to see Jerry O'Connell's talk show, and he's taking like 30 seconds to just rub one in Max Delente's face, and they're just so confused. But Jerry's loving every second of it.
Yeah, if someone could find that clip, send it. Are you small? Hank, that's what you have to look forward to.
You versus Jerry. Oh, my God.
Jerry be all up your ass. They got to get past the Pacers.
We might have to get them out here. Yeah.
You got to get past whoever you're playing. The Kajic.
I think if you combine the teams, you probably win. Yeah.
It's cocky Hank. I'm just building them up, building them up, building them up.
All right, he's not picking up. He's probably just running around the streets.
All right, we'll have him on, though, if the Celtics play the Knicks. Last thing I had, Deion Sanders should probably stay off Twitter.
Yeah. The thing about Deion is when Colorado's winning and everything's working, he's super entertaining.
He gets people talking about college football, which is good. New rivalries forming.
That's good. He also has been going after former players on Twitter, which is not a good look for a coach.
And then what I didn't like is he's now, like, he'll backtrack his way into, like, using a quote from the Bible. That then also justifies why he's hating on this, like, 19-year-old kid.
Right. And we – Deion wants to be treated like a player sometimes.
Right. Like the man.
He's got the player mentality, yeah. He's got the player mentality, but you also have to be a good person to the players that you come across that you might not even like he inherited that guy as yeah guys that's on the team and then to be like cyber bullying him over his stats and stuff like that yeah dion should probably stop doing that the uh yeah i mean we're we are dion fans people know that we're we're biased in that respect So when we say that he's going too far and should stay off Twitter, you know that he's gone probably well too far and should stay off Twitter.
Way too far. Just one of those things, like, what are you winning right here, Deion? There's nothing to gain from doing that.
I understand defending your son. Yeah.
But other than that, let your sons do it. Like, I think Shadour Sanders i think shador sanders like well actually no that was a little weird too because he was talking because he's the coach's son he's talking shit to a former player yeah i'm like i don't you must have been mid because we didn't even i don't even remember you and like that seems like it's stupid too making it clear that the two of them had talked about this right right yeah yeah so yeah and that kid, yeah.
And that kid, he was one of the guys that tried to stick around. Yeah.
And tried to, like, adapt to Deion's system, the new regime. And he tried to make it work, and apparently Deion just wouldn't give him the time of day.
Which, that's also reality in college football. Correct.
If the coach doesn't think that you're good enough to play, you're going to be treated like less than nothing. You might as well be invisible.
But then, to have that same same coach dunk on you online later that seems like it should be beneath any college coach yeah he he he should uh stay off twitter and maybe learn the lesson that it's not nothing you don't win on this you lose he lost he lost in that exchange uh all right anything else oh justin fields might return kicks. Yeah.
Bill Pullian is just smiling like told you i i hope he doesn't he would be electric but i hope he doesn't because why would he ever do that i think i don't know he's not just get the ball in his hands there's just i like watching him run he's not i i still think he's gonna play at some point this season for the steelers but but even if he doesn't play, being a backup and being like, I'm not returning kicks, because what will happen is Justin Fields will return a touchdown, and then he will be boxed into returning kicks. See, Corderell Patterson.
Yeah. So the one thing I'm looking forward to a lot about this, actually there's a lot of things I'm looking forward to about this NFL season.
I wish it started tomorrow. I agree.
I'm starting to get the itch. I can't wait for it.
I haven't been this exciting in years for the NFL season. I'm starting to get really close to sending out my first, I can't wait for college football tweet.
It has to come organic. It has to be when I'm just daydreaming and just thinking like, damn, I can't wait for this.
So one thing I'm really excited about, though, is with the new kickoff rules, watching teams absolutely screw it up and like everyone's going to think that they've got a new system a new way that they can take advantage of the new kickoff and half of them are going to fail hilariously yes and that's what i'm looking forward to watch yes it's going to be great some coach thinking that it's cooking it's going to be great yeah um okay happy we got cocky hank back uh happy max dealing with this somewhat well. I'm happy Max isn't sad.
Are you sad? I mean, I'm definitely sad. But we've seen sad Max before, and this pales in comparison.
It's different. It's different.
It's different. And I'm happy.
Max earlier was like, would it be bad if I wanted the Sixers to lose just so this would be over? Is that true? That is not true. What time did you say that? I think you did say at one point, I just want to be out of here.
That was talking about the physical space you were occupying. Probably.
I hate that gambling game. I think you should leave.
I will never have a win in that place. I don't even want to be here anymore.
You have had wins there. Name one.
That's a good question. Villanova or DePaul? That was the worst.
That was the worst win. Was that not a win? That was the worst win in the history of wins.
Oh, you beat the Cowboys in there when Dak stepped out of bounds. That's the only game.
I had one game in my mind. That's the only one.
What about when you guys took a lead in in the nlcs that lost yeah but you had wins not in that room to get there not in that room yeah actually that room's been really bad because i was even thinking like the series the cowboys games the only series against the braves was in the old office yes big dom game they lost that game By a lot. All right, let's not play this game.
Remember that was the Niners? Ebo would just run. He'd just give it to Ebo and just make touchdown.
All right, let's not play this game. I thought they won the Big Dom game.
Yeah. Really good interviews coming up.
Yeah, we have, so Randy Moss talking Kentucky Derby, Keith Yandel, one of our also good friends talking some puck, and then we have a weird brainstorming session for Fyre Fest that was very yeah it takes a lot of a lot of twists and turns we need some help we need i need some help with my words and i also we need some help on an idea and how to make it funny let's kick it to ourselves okay before we get to randy moss and keith yandel quick word from our friends at aura frames All moms want for Mother's Day is to see you more often, right? An Aura digital picture frame is the next best thing. You can preload mom's frame with unlimited photos so she can see everything from her grandkids' dance recitals to what you ate for lunch.
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May be inappropriate for children under 13. Okay, here he is, Randy Moss.
Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. He's one of our favorite guests, long time.
I mean, we say this every year, Randy Moss, but I think you were probably the first three months of Pardon My Take history. You had no obligation to give two idiots a shot and hop on this podcast as it was kind of a bit at first, and then we became friends.
But I can't tell you every single time we get to Kentucky Derby Week, the amount of people who tweet me being like Randy Moss, right? Randy Moss, Randy Moss. So it's great to see you.
It is Kentucky Derby week. I have a question that's not horse-related first.
Super Bowl week. Did Boomer and Geo try to steal our bit? Did they steal our bit? Boomer and Geo had no damn idea who they were getting, right? I was there to help, you know, promote horse racing.
They asked me to come and all that you know they thought they were getting randy monster football player and who wouldn't want randy monster football player on super bowl week as opposed to you know the og white bald randy moss yep but uh yeah it was it went viral it went viral that week when they realized at the last minute who they were going to be getting so it was pretty

pretty funny that that wasn't a bit then i i wasn't sure i wasn't sure if they were just going to do the yeah because i think the first time we had you on we might have asked you only like minnesota vikings and new england patriots related questions uh but yeah it's good to have you back on the very first time i was on we played racehorse or porn star yeah yeah you were really good at that game.

You're really good.

Yeah.

You know, you knew your porn stars.

Yeah.

You're a porn star. Yeah.

You were really good at that game. You were really good at that game.
Yeah, you knew your porn stars. Yeah, you're a porn guy.
And after that, my wife told me, you will never go on Pardon My Day again. And now she's a big fan.
So you won her over. It's a beautiful story.
It's a beautiful story. All right, so it is Kentucky Derby week.
let's start with the guy that looms over everything

every single Kentucky Derby Week. It is Bob Baffert who will not be involved.
His horse, Muth, who probably would be, you could tell me, would be very much in the running to win this race, will not be there. I read a story last night that essentially was like bob baffert just isn't sorry enough and uh so you tell us from your angle what what's happening and what what will happen going forward and is there that feeling that not an asterisk but there's a horse out there a three-year-old that could compete in this race that won't be in this race so bob baffertert had a couple of horses that would have been in this year's Kentucky Derby in a normal year.
Muth won the Arkansas Derby. He probably would be the third betting choice, the third favorite if he were here.
And he also had another horse who had finished second, Imagination, in the Santa Anita Derby. So he would have had two horses kind of front and center.
And we know, we all know that because of the Medina spirit disqualification in 2021, Churchill Downs ruled him off for two years, right? That was the deal. Two years.
If he had no more medication violations after two years, then he'd be welcomed back to Churchill Downs. And then last July, suddenly kind of out of the blue,

Churchill Downs said that they were extending the ban

from two years to three years.

As a justification, they cited a comment that Baffert made on Fox

in an interview saying that if he had to do anything over again,

he would do everything exactly the same.

And that apparently angered Churchill Downs.

In my opinion, the reason why Churchill Downs extended the ban

Thank you. everything exactly the same.
And that apparently angered Churchill Downs. In my opinion, the reason why Churchill Downs extended the ban, they didn't tell me this.
I'm reading the tea leaves here. This is the 150th anniversary of the Kentucky Derby.
It means a lot to Churchill Downs, this 150th anniversary. I think they realized that if Baffert had come back to the Kentucky Derby this year, he would be one of the main stories.
Bob Baffert being back would almost overshadow the storyline of the 150th Kentucky Derby. And I didn't think that after all was said and done, they wanted that to happen.
And I don't think they wanted the possibility of Bill Karstangian, the head of Churchill Downs, presenting the trophy for the 150th Derby to Bob Baffert in the winner's circle. Okay.
That makes sense in theory. But if you're looking at it from a perspective of what's going to get the most buzz going, what's going to get the most people to tune in, what's be the biggest story you could argue that bob baffert coming back the bad boy returns it's like a wrestling storyline bad boy returns right 150th anniversary if he does happen to win that feels like that is a win for horse racing overall if that happens i think you're absolutely right and what wins for horse racing in my opinion is the best horses being in the kentucky derby and this, all the best three-year-olds are not in the Kentucky Derby.
So that's where I come down on it also. I also love the idea that this dynamic between Bob Baffert and Churchill Downs is just exactly that detention scene in Breakfast Club.
Yeah. Where he just says one thing like, another detention.
Yeah. All he has to do is say sorry and really mean it.
And then he'd be back. Yeah.
And this thing was in court up until like a week ago because the owner of Mood challenged the extra year suspension. Not Baffert.
It was Amber Zidane who owned Medina Spirit, and he also owned Mood. Amber Zidane pointed out that he took Churchill Downs at their word that if Baffert had no more medication violations, that they would be, they would welcome him back after two years.
And he said, I went out and bought $10 million worth of horses on the assumption that Baffert would get to train my horses if they made it to the Kentucky Derby. And then I got the rug pulled out from underneath me.
But he filed that lawsuit very, very late in the game, just four weeks before the Derby, right after the horse won the Arkansas Derby. I think the timing is what did him in more than anything.
Yeah, so it does lead us to an interesting Kentucky Derby. Like you said, not all the best three-year-olds are in this race, and I was looking at it last night.
Fierceness, who is going to be the favorite on Kentucky. He's a favorite right now.
Mike Rapoli. Shout out Mike Rapoli, our guy who helped us get Rick Pitino on the podcast.
But Fierceness looks like he's a class above everyone else in terms of speed. The speed ratings for a lot of these horses are just not – it doesn't look like what a Kentucky Derby should normally look like.
Is this a situation where fierceness, you have to include them in your bets, and this horse is just better than everyone else? If all the horses run their best races, fierceness wins the race hands down. Talent-wise, fierceness is probably three or four lengths better than any other horse in the field um but right now you mentioned that fierceness is the favorite i hope this music's not too loud behind me i'm in the new paddock by the way no you're good yeah it looks good right see yeah yeah i always want to give you guys up close and personal like remember when i got under the stall webbing at the freakness and you got to? Yes, that was fantastic.
So that's why I'm in the paddock. Anyway, back to fierceness.
The only drawback about fierceness, who is right now an 8-5 favorite, is that he's had a couple of races on his form where he was terrible. The Holy Bull, the race before the Florida Derby, he had a little bit of an excuse but he still underperformed and you know there's that inconsistency in his form that is making a lot of people look elsewhere especially at the eight to five price and he's running 17th in the 17th position right yeah but that's good Okay.
He's a speed horse, and he doesn't want to be down inside where his hand is forced. So if they could have picked their post position, they would have picked 16, 17, 18, somewhere out there.
So that worked perfectly for them. He's had a scratch.
He was 17. Now he's 16.
There may even be another scratch or two.

Who knows? But they wanted to be outside, so that's a good thing.

On paper,

and I know the Kentucky Derby, you don't

often get to say this. On paper,

it looks essentially like a two-horse

race between fierceness and a

horse called Sierra Leone.

Right now, Sierra Leone is 6-1.

I think fierceness is the most likely

winner, but

Thank you. called Sierra Leone.
And right now, Sierra Leone is 6-1. Right.
So I think fierceness is the most likely winner, but the discrepancy of 8-5 and 6-1 is very, very tempting given fierceness's inconsistencies in the past. All right.
So you mentioned he's going to be running out of 16, but he will be wearing the 17 silks, right? Correct. Correct.
17 Saddletown number. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Yes.
17 Saddletown number. Correct.
Okay. So we are superstitious guys, and you probably know this as well.
17. The number 17 has never won the Kentucky Derby.
44 years, never won the Kentucky Derby. How does that not play into this, Randy? It's nothing whatsoever to do with it.
It has to be something. It's just coincidence.
18 is one. 18 would be worse than 17.
19 is one. 20 is one.
Rich Strike wore 21 or 20. I think he wore 21.
You're proving why 17 is unlucky. Yeah, you're making our point for us.
44 years is not a coincidence. You guys are going to hit me on jinxes? Yes.
Although, I mean, the fact that he's wearing 17, but he's racing out of the 16th position, that's not going to be a win for 17, though, even if he does win, right? Officially, in the record books, we're still going to say the 17th position has not won okay well how about looking at it this way all right 15 is 16 is 1 18 19 20 17 is badly overdue oh i don't know i don't know about you're trying to time the market yeah i don't know about advisors say not to do that i think that's a bad idea i think it's a bad idea all right so so sierra leone the the uh the second favorite um talk to me about this horse because this horse i watched a couple races uh that this horse has run and the mo for this horse is going to slow start finish strong which you don't isn't always easy when it comes to kentucky derby with the amount of horses in the field and the traffic that could be there. So are you concerned at all about the fact that traffic is going to be a problem? I think it might be a little muddy.
You never want the mud in your eyes. Are you worried at all about Sierra Leone coming from the back in a huge, huge field? No.
Okay. No, I'm not worried at all.
And here's why. First of all, if you go back historically And you look at the Kentucky Derby Go back and look at the last 30 years If you have access to the charts and things like that And this whole mantra that has developed over the years Of the 20-horse field and the Kentucky Derby Making it a rough race Making it a crap shoot The best horse doesn't win.
They get stopped in traffic. It's all BS.
Probably 70 to 80% of the horses that win the Kentucky Derby, if you go back and look at the charts and you ask yourself in hindsight, was this horse the best horse in the race? Looking back in hindsight, it's usually yes. Despite the traffic, despite the running style.
Part two to that. There should be a fairly contentious early pace.
It almost always is in the Kentucky Derby. And when that happens, it spreads out the horses.
Right. They're going kind of fast early.
So it creates more gaps all the way back to the last place horse. There's more of a gap between first and last when the pace is kind of fast and that means a little less traffic for the come from behinders back there to have to navigate through to get to the front and you've also got you know 20 of the best jockeys in the united states and some of the best jockeys in the world.
So typically they can find a way to do it.

The cream usually rises to the top.

So in terms of the jockeys, what's one jockey that you're looking at this week that will get the most out of their horse and provide good value maybe on whatever the betting line

closes at?

There might be a long shot, but they've got a great jockey that might work their way

into the top three.

Never, ever, ever handicap the jockeys in the Kentucky Derby. Because they're all good.
They're all good. The difference between Joel Rosario and Ired Ortiz and Tyler Gaflion and Jose Ortiz and Flavian Pratt is so minute.
Right? There may be a very difference in between one and the other if they get into a particular situation in a race. But you never can predict if that situation is going to transpire or not.
They're so evenly matched that you just have to go into it with the assumption that you're going to get a good ride. The horse is going to run up to its potential.
And just focus on the horse and not the rider okay um now i think we do this every single year randy uh we try to talk ourselves into a japanese horse who won in you know the uae or the saudi arabia derby like we we do this every single year so this year uh forever young uh what what are we telling ourselves i i'm i'm sick of i'm sick of of of basically being sold on these Japanese horses flying all the way around the world and then coming here and everyone like, watch out for them. It never works out.
But tell me how this is going to be different this year. Well, there's really only been one of them that had a legitimate chance, and that was last year at Dermasodagate.
And, you know, he ran sixth. He ran okay.
He put himself in good position at the top of the stretch. I thought he was going to be good enough to win, and he wasn't.
So, you know, the sample size is not all that big. This year, Forever Young is the most accomplished of any Japanese horse that's ever come over here.
He's a perfect five-for-five lifetime. But I've got two concerns about Forever Young that would keep me from being super confident in him, right? Talent-wise, he's as good as any of them except Pierceman.
But he traveled 5,000 miles to get from Japan to Saudi Arabia. He won the Saudi Derby.
Then he hopped over to Dubai, not very far. He won the UAE Derby.
Then he travels 7,000 miles to get here. After he won the UAE Derby, his Japanese trainer, through a translator, was quoted as saying that when he made the trip from Tokyo to Saudi Arabia, he did not travel well.
The travel bothered him. And it took him a while to get back into his rhythm.
With this horse, the travel over was delayed by a week because of logistical problems from Dubai to the United States. Right.
He had to fly from Dubai to Frankfurt, from Frankfurt to Chicago, Chicago, a 42-hour quarantine, into a van, six hours, the third lounge.

If he didn't travel well from Saudi, from Japan to Saudi, it concerns me that he's going to be a little bit less than 100% because of the travel all the way into here. The other thing, the Troner seems be uh borderline obsessive about keeping this horse out of this kickback spray in his face and if he tries to do that in the kentucky derby with 20 horses the only way to do it would be to take him to the far outside and in that case he would have an impossibly wide trip and he'd be completely screwed so because of those two factors i'm not as confident about forever young running well as i was last year with german soda got there but he is a very very talented very very determined uh and accomplished great boy another crazy story is that j Wirth actually owns one of these racehorses,

or he owns at least like 10% of one of the horses, right?

Is it Dornak or Dornak?

Yes, Dornak.

Dornak breaks from post position number one.

He'll probably set the early pace.

Yeah, Jason is just now sort of getting started in the horse business,

just dabbling in it.

And, you know, it's such a long shot for someone to just buy a few horses and not spend an astronomical amount of money and yet have a horse in the Kentucky Derby yeah he's over he's I talked to him yesterday back there in the barn area he's over the moon about it really good guy and he's uh he realizes how how lucky he's gotten right off the bat yeah that's crazy to just get started I think he's been doing this for like three years and he has a horse in the Derby in the third year it's an it's insane yeah now is is the horse is it a philly no it's a it's a horse who actually happens to be a full brother meaning the same sire and the same dam as mage last year's kentucky derby winner it's never happened that two horses out of the same sire and mare

both won the Kentucky Derby. So this would

make history if Dornick could manage

to go wire to wire from the inside.

The odds are...

Is there any nepotism

concerns? Do you think that

Mage maybe told

him, hey, this is how you want to run

the race? Are we worried about that? The nepotism

with Seattle Slough throughout the years

has been ridiculous.

Maybe they hooked up a little FaceTime with

Thank you. him like, hey, this is how you want to run the race? Are we worried about that? The nepotism with Seattle Slough throughout the years has been ridiculous.
Maybe they hooked up a little FaceTime with Mage and Dornick here in the week before the Kentucky Derby, right? Dumb question. Do they know their brothers? No.
If they see each other, are they like, yo, you look like me? Well, who knows, right? No one has any idea if horses would actually recognize that. There are some people who believe, and I can't argue with them necessarily.
I mean, you can't factor this into your hand at that. But there are some people who believe that horses can be in the paddock, right? Before they even get to the racetrack.
And you can have eight or ten horses together in the paddock, and they're getting ready to, which is where I am have eight or ten horses together in the paddock and they're getting ready to which is where i am obviously right here by the way and they're getting ready to go out and run in a race and some people believe that one horse can look at another horse and say oh shit i can't beat that horse mentally weak i love it yeah yeah i know well what about who knows i believe that now? I believe that now. I absolutely believe that.
Can horses, horses can have friends. I know that.
Can they have enemies like rivals? Are there horses that look at another specific horse and be like, I fucking hate that horse. I'm going to run faster.
You know, this is, it's funny that you would say that. When I first started coming to Kentucky, I took a trip to some farms in Lexington.
And I went to Spend Thrift Farm, which is a big farm. And they had a firm, the Triple Crown winner there, who was a very entertaining horse.
He was said to be one of the most intelligent horses, good horses that ever lived, right? Very, very smart horse. He actually used to play a game where the tour people would be up, including me, would be up at the fence watching him in the back of the grassy paddock, and then he would come charging full speed right at the people.
And it looked like he was going to just run right into the fence, and he would wait until they scattered and ran away, and then he would come to a screeching stop. And it really entertained him to be able to scatter the people like that.
Well, his sire was in the paddock next door, exclusive native. And the guy that took care of him told me that they hated each other.
And they would try to they would try to fight over the fence and they would sometimes race each other up and down the fence line. But they did not like each other at all.
So it was like a little, what do you call that? Oedipus? Oedipus complex. Yeah.
I like that. No love lost between the two.
All right. So talking about the whole field, give us some long shots that you are looking at, maybe including in your exotics.
I'll throw one out there that maybe you could tell me is stupid but uh the horse mystic dan just looking at the speed figures is probably the second fastest horse if they all ran their top speed that they've run in the past um is that stupid to include him in anything uh wait until you see the racetrack condition on saturday the The speed figure you're talking about was in Arkansas, at Oakland Park, at a race called the Southwest States, where it was a muddy racetrack. And he absolutely ran a freakishly good race coming down the stretch.
He came back next start on a fast racetrack in the Arkansas Derby and wasn't nearly as effective. Now, that's not a lot of evidence, just two races to say that, man, this horse loves a muddy racetrack.
But it's supposed to rain. Friday, it's supposed to rain maybe Saturday morning.
If the track is muddy for the Kentucky Derby and Mystic Nan is sitting on the board at 35 to 1, you could do a whole lot worse than to make that assumption. Okay.
And then what else? What other horses should we have our eyes on where you're like, okay, this horse is something you want to include? Yeah, two of the mid-price long shots that I like, 16 to 1 right now in the betting is a horse called Just a Touch, who was second to Sierra Leone in the Bluegrass. And he's a horse that's getting better and better and better.
He's only had three races, just like Justify, a few years ago. So he's very inexperienced, theoretically improving.
And then at, he's 16 to 1. And then at 17 to 1, there's a horse called Honor Marie, who was second in the Louisiana Derby, who had already shown last year that he loves Churchill Down.
And he's looked really good here in workouts in the morning. Just a touch is up close to the face.
Honor Marie will be back there with Sierra Leone toward the back of the pack. But both those horses, I think, have a really good chance, you know, to sort of sneak into the trifectas and the superfectas.
So the horse that right now has the third best odds, maybe I don't know what the scratches are, but Catching Freedom is right now I think 8-1. I don't know if that's current, but we haven't talked about him.
He seems to be right in the conversation. What do you think about him? He ran a really good race to win the Louisiana Derby, right? Honor Marie was second.
He beat Honor Marie by a length in there. They were last and next to last in the early part of the race.
So just like Sierra Leone, you know, those horses will all be way back at the back of the pack. I think they found out something in that race about catching freedom.
He didn't break very well, and he had never been that far back before, and that was the best race of his life. And I think they found out that's the way he wants to run.
But he's still going to have to improve, I think, from that race into the Kentucky Derby. But no, he's definitely not without a chance.
So you're in the new paddock right now. I know that they've changed the track up a little bit.
They nerfed the track. They made it softer.
They're trying to not have a repeat of what happened last year. What changes have been made to the actual surface of the track? It's the composition of the track.
It's the percentages of sand, silt, and clay. They bought some new equipment to take care of the track a little bit better.
One of the things that's going to be interesting I think is that there that there's a higher percentage of clay, apparently, in the track. And if you know anything about farming or whatever, I don't, but whatever it, clay holds moisture more than sand and silt.
This track was always known as a track that dried very, very quickly because it had a higher percentage of sand. And now with more clay in the track, there is at least some concern with the trainers back there that if it rains Friday and it rains Saturday morning, that the track may not dry as quickly on Kentucky Derby day as it has in the band.
So that, you know, that might be the most immediate impact that we see. Yeah.
And then I'm talking about Friday. Usually give us something on the Kentucky Oaks.
You will be on the broadcast. We'll see you all weekend.
So what are you thinking, Kentucky Oaks, for people who want to start on Friday? Look, I'll give you some horses to bet Friday and Saturday, right? Okay, and the Kentucky Oaks, we'll start with the Kentucky Oaks on Friday. I have a very tough time separating the five Torpedo Anna and the 13 Just FYI.
Right now, Torpedo Anna is the favorite in the early betting. Just FYI, it's almost a coin flip between the two horses.
So I would play exactly this back and forth between those two. Right now, Just FYI is, I think, five to one, which would be a great price for her.
The horse I like the most in the two days, for betting purposes, is running on Saturday in the seventh race. It's a race called the Distab Turf Mile.
And her name is Coppice. C-O-P-P-I-C-E.
She breaks from number 11 in the seventh race on Saturday. Her first race in the United States.
And the reviews of this horse back at the barn in the mornings have been absolutely glowing. And a lot of those European horses come over here and kick ass against the American horses when they switch them to the turf.
And then a few races later, the 10th race is a race called the Churchill Down Stakes, the seven furlong sprint. I'm not positive this horse is fast enough to win, but it's going to be 12 or 15 to one.
And the horse could be right there. And I'm going to bet it.
The horse's name is Track Mate. Okay.
Track Mate number seven in the 10th race on uh on saturday okay all right i like that i like i like that endorsement of it i'm not sure this horse is fast enough to win but i'm gonna bet on it yeah at that price yeah you know numbers wise he can win in his last race at oakland park it was just an allowance race you watch that race and you're like whoa i mean he streaked around horses coming to the stretch and then drew off and won they dwayne lucas trains him he's had blinkers twice he won both those races last race he just he really gave you that sort of wow factor when you watch them run and this is not the toughest churchill down stakes that we've seen over the year so i think he he's got a really good chance to be right there. When you go blinkers on, are we basically saying that the horse is just not mentally tough? Yeah.
Okay, yeah. Yeah.
It's typically that the horse is too distracted. Right.
Right? The horse is looking at the other horses. The horse is looking at the crowd.
You know, the horses, especially in the infield on Kentucky Derby. Oh, look over there.
Holy cow, look at that. You know, and he's not focused on what he's doing in front of him.
Right. So the blinkers sort of help him not look at anything else except what's just like right there.
The other thing is that sometimes horses uh what what the blinkers will do when they sharpen the focus it makes horses often run faster early for whatever reason i guess it's because they're just they're they're more focused yeah and so if some horses just have trouble early in the race and they drop too far back trainers will put blinkers on the horse hoping that hoping that it makes them show more speed. And oftentimes it works.
Now, in terms of horse racing technology, have we ever thought about, you know how like outfielders would wear the sunglasses that you can flip on and off? Have we thought about doing blinkers where it's like you can have the blinkers on for the first start of the race and then you can flip them off at the end. I think I might have just invented a new thing.
You may have. Before you know it, you may have those.
You may have eye black under the horse's eyes. I like that.
You don't know, right? Yeah. What you do see in horse racing that's pretty funny is that some horses are claustrophobic and they don't want to go into the starting gate.
This happens in Europe more than it does in the United States. So they'll put a hood on them, a complete hood, no eye holes.
They can't see anything. And they'll put them in the gate, and they'll load them in the gate, and they'll keep that hood on them, and the jockey will have his hand on top of the hood.
And as soon as the gate opens, opens he'll throw the hood off throw it behind him and then the horse the horse will go on now the day that the jockey forgets to take the hood off that should be very interesting yeah it hasn't happened yet it sounds like they're they're taking the horse hostage and then they're like okay you're free try to get away and then it runs out that's actually a smart move what about this what about if you were to take to have a horse and have it train with a really fat jockey for a while and then on race day, here's your real jockey. He weighs 150 pounds less.
It's like a batting donut. Yeah, it's like swinging a leaded bat or something like that.
There was a trainer named Larry Jones who still trains horses every now and then. He's had some really good horses over the years.
He had hard spun. He was second in the Kentucky Derby way back when.

Larry weighs about 170 pounds or whatever.

He would like to breeze his horses and get on them in the mornings,

and that was a little part of the theory.

Yeah. I thought it would strengthen them up a little bit, right?

And then in the afternoon, you put on your 110-pound rider, and boom boom you don't see that very often though yeah did it work i even we won a lot of races okay that's a smart move yeah it's a very smart move what's the minimum weighted jockey has to be minimum or maximum minimum oh is there a minimum well i mean typically nowadays uh you don't see many races at all where the minimum weight is any lower than like 112, 113 pounds, right? So if you do happen to have a super duper lightweight jockey, like Pat Day used to be, right? Pat Day was a natural lightweight, like I'm talking to like 105 pounds or something like that. So when Pat would ride and his horse had to carry 115 pounds, they just put 10 pounds of lead weight into the saddle so that he can carry the amount of weight that he's required to carry.
As far as a maximum weight, typically nowadays, it's very difficult for a jockey to ride if he'd be weighs more than 117, 116 pounds. Okay.
Because they're overweight. They're overweight on too many races.
Yeah. But, yeah, that's the way that works.
I'm just thinking, like, you know, like maybe a seven-year-old on a horse. Yeah.
Would they just be able to dominate yeah just ride just standing on him maybe like

a 50 pound seven-year-old have we thought about getting yokich involved in american horse racing we know he loves horses and i feel like this would be right up his alley he's in the playoffs obviously so he can't do it now but getting him involved owning a horse and then he would ride on the back of the horse to train it and then put a jockey on that horse is going to be so fast hey we got Jason

Wirth this year you know

Aaron Rodgers will probably be here. Tom Brady will be here.
So, yeah, I mean, it's good to be and these athletes involved if you can. Yeah.
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Roback.com. So this year's a little interesting for the Triple Crown.
I'll actually be there for the Belmont, which is going to be at Saratoga. Is that going to change? Yeah, hopefully I'll see you.
Is that going to change any of the horses that are in the Triple Crown? Because I know you can obviously race the Preakness in Belmont, even if you're not in the Kentucky Derby, but the fact that it's in a different place, in a different track, does that change the dynamic in how trainers are playing this out? Not the fact that it's at a different track, but the fact that it's at a different distance. Yeah.
Because the Belmont is being run at Saratoga this year, they don't feel comfortable running it at a mile and a half because then you'd have to start it halfway around the turn. Now, it's been done in the past when the Belmont was run at Aqueduct way back when, in the 60s, I think, when the first time they were rebuilding Belmont Park.
They ran it a mile and a half, and they started it on the turn with no problem because they felt it was important to keep that mile and a half distance.

But this year, next year, the New York authorities have decided

that it would be better to run the Belmont Stakes at a mile and a quarter,

which completely changes the dynamic of the Triple Crown.

Right.

You know, the Belmont was always known as the test of the champion

because of that mile and a half distance that was the undoing of so many horses that were trying to sweep the triple crown. It's much, to me, the distances of the races and the Belmont, especially being a mile and a half, it's much more important to keep that tradition than the amount of time between the Derby and the Freakness and the Freakness and the Belmont.
But at a mile and a quarter, I think you're going to see a lot more trainers want to run in the Belmont States than if it were still a mile and a half. Yeah, so this is going to be whoever, if someone wins the Triple Crown this year or next year, we're going to just forever be like asterisk, bubble championship, different.
You're right. Yes, absolutely.
I think that's unfortunate. Yeah.
But on the other hand, you're going to get more horses running in the other races, which is good, right? Well, more in the Belmont. Yeah.
Yeah. Man, Saratoga's incredible.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
And that's going to be quite the spectacle. I wish I could see you there.
I'm not going to be there. Fox says the Belmont States nowadays, but it's going to be like really, really something special to see.
Okay. All right.
Sounds good. Randy, thank you as always.
We'll talk to you before the Preakness. We're excited.
We're very excited for the Kentucky Derby. It's like the official start of summer in my mind.
And look at that scene. It looks beautiful.
It's a nice paddock. And good luck on TV on Friday and Saturday.
And I know you'll look great. You got a good outfit I'm sure is picked out.
And we'll talk to you in a couple weeks. All right, guys.
Take care. This is always the highlight of my week for one of them.
I love it. I appreciate it.
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It is Keith Yandel. We're going to talk some puck.
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Jens, before we talk about some of these second round matchups, you were texting me yesterday, and he said he wishes he had Memes' phone number so we could have texted him and asked how many games you really thought the Islanders were going to win. So we might as well do it right now because you were dealing with Frankie Borelli and Islanders fans.
Yeah. They thought that a 4-1 loss to the Hurricanes in that first-round series, they were right there.
Which is insane. Is Memes there? Yeah, Mem memes there yeah memes he's here hey i wanted his phone numbers because i wanted to be friends with them i love memes but um second but like it's like borelli's making this big deal having stew finer come into his restaurant watch games like they had zero chance of winning that series zero and do i love the fact that they did it in heartbreaking fashion? Yes, I love it because I played for the Rangers.
I hate the Islanders. But the fact that they thought that they – I'd rather not be in the playoffs than think that you're going to win a series or think you're going to win a game.
It's just typical thinking of the Borelli type fan Yeah. Sad.
So, you hated the Islanders. Is that common? Like, do most players, if it's their rival, they actually have a hatred of them? Well, I think when you play a team, you know, you play a team so much, you're in the same division, you're, you know, a couple miles away.
And when you play the Islanders, especially back then when they were at nassau coliseum it was the worst hotel the worst food the walk to the rink is brutal so it's just there's nothing fun about going to that that town to play a game but um great fans uh loyal passionate but uh you know they they're hanging on to their 1970s a little bit too too long yeah yeah Yeah. All right.
So, memes, what do you say to that? Do you think you were right there? I do think we were right there. That's crazy people talking.
How, memes? Game two, we probably should have won. So it should have been 2-2 going into game.
So that's one win. Yeah.
That's one win. All right.
And then it would have been coming back to the island 3-2. We would have won that.
And then we would have stole one in game seven. Okay.
All right. So that's how they would have done it.
All right. So my bad.
Maybe they would have won it. They would have got a pass right to the finals if they won that series.
Yeah. All right.
So let's start with the East because you just mentioned your former team, the Rangers. They beat the Capitals very quickly.
It was seven days exactly, which I was trying to help PFT being like, if you're out in seven days, you just were never in the playoffs. No one will remember.
Are we at the point? Is it early enough to do the rest versus rust thing? Are we worried that the Rangers, they played four games, then they're going to take a week off, and now they've got to get back out there? Do they lose a little bit of their momentum going into the next round? I don't think so. I think rest is such a big component, especially now during playoffs.
Anytime you can get it is huge. At the end of every series, pretty much every guy is banged up.
Going through something, whether it's bruises or stuff that's broken. Guys are battling through it.
So I think the rest component is huge anytime you can get it, especially during the playoffs, because you don't know if you're going to get it next series or the series after. They might have a slow first period, but Carolina's going to have some rest too.
Probably take the under in that first game okay so the uh the rangers is their penalty kill as good as it looked or is it just that the capitals are atrocious i think a little bit of both um you didn't you didn't see the capitals power play that you used to see in the last what 20 years with ovary it's you know they they did a good good job eliminating him. You know, I don't think he had his best series that he's ever had, and I'm sure he would be the first guy to tell you that.
But, you know, a lot of hard work from that team at the end of this season to try to get in. They might have been out of gas.
But I do think that the Rangers PK and their power play, their special teams are great. They got a lot of dogs out there, just guys that are willing to pay the price, block shots, playoff time, that's what it's all about, and guys sacrificing themselves.
And I think the Rangers are one of the best teams at doing that. And, you know, they got the guys that want a PK, and then when you have such a good power play like they do, it just makes your PK look even better.
With O ov specifically uh i i've watched a lot of him this year i've watched his entire career uh in the playoffs he looked like a different guy entirely i'm i it was to a point where i started to get concerned like is this the new ov is this just who he is now because he seemed to hit a wall this year so maybe it was he's out of gas by the end of the season but the way that he played it was completely foreign to me as somebody that's seen this guy's entire career haven't seen that type of of play from Ovi ever and so now I'm worried next year looking forward is this just going to be Ovi trotting him out there trying to get him out on power plays until he gets the record and then then the franchise is just kind of treading water for the next season or maybe two seasons yeah I think it could I think it could be a little of that but yeah there were a few plays during uh that series when you know when I was with the Rangers we played the Washington and you know a lot of times like he'll come down the wall like he's usually in his spot up there hitting a one-timer but if there's a loose puck and you're a d-man going to get it he's usually running running you through the glass. And I didn't see much of that out of him, but it's like you guys, you've said before on the show, Father Time is undefeated.
And I don't know if they had the best team to support him as well. I think they were lucky to get in with obviously the goal differentials everyone's been talking about.
But, you know, you can see him especially, you know, he'll put his 20 games together where he just goes on heaters, plays well, plays hard. But I think I think the days of where he's running guys through the boards, you know, a force to be reckoned with out there, those might be limited.
But, you know, I think when it comes to goal scoring, he's I think he could do it until he's 45 years old because he's got one of those shots where no one wants to block it. Whether you're a defenseman or a goalie, you don't want to get hit by it.
So I think you're still going to see him scoring goals and getting opportunities, but I think that the rest of that stuff that made him so effective with being a force out there, scary to play against. He's a big dude.
People don't realize he's probably 250 pounds, especially when playoffs come at the end of the year. You're eating a lot of chicken parm during the season, right? So you're putting on weight.
So he's probably playing at 250, running guys, and not a fun man to play against. So last question about the Rangers.
Matt Rempe, who electrified the nhl when he when he when he came up was fighting every single night he turned down a fight in this series with tom wilson does that matter at all in the locker room going forward like hey dude it's the playoffs or was it simply the rangers were going to win that series no matter what don't waste your fights in this series yeah i think a little bit of both the key thing to fighting is time and place and you know you talk to guys like biz or guys like you can hurt a team's moment your own team's momentum you can help another team's momentum if you're up by a goal it's usually an unwritten law that you don't fight um the other team's fighter is probably going to try to fight you to get his team going a little bit but that's's when you kind of, you know, shake it off and say, no, no, no, wait till it's tied or whatever. But usually when fights like that happen, especially in playoffs, it's usually a little more organic, whether a guy gets ran from behind or stuck in the face.
But I think I think the days of where guys are just, you know, tapping shin pads at the at the red line and saying, hey, we're going this shift. I think that's kind of done, especially during playoffs because it's all about momentum for your team.
I can't remember exactly the play. Was it at home or on the road? I think it was game three.
It was either three or four, but Wilson was trying to get after him a couple times in this series. And the Rangers were up one.
Especially on the road, too. You don't need to fight on the road because you're just going to get the other team's crowd into it.
At home, you're probably looking for it a little more. But on the road, you don't need to get the other team's crowd into it.
Especially like PFT will be taking his shirt off and waving it around like Petey Pablo. Yeah.
Another dumb question about Rempe. So he comes up and he fights.
I can't remember. It was like four or five of the first games that he played in the locker room.
Is there anyone like, Hey dude, we get it. Like we, we love you.
You're good. Like after the third fight, they're like, Hey, you're, you're good with us.
Like we, we know you're the tough guy now. Like we're, we're good going forward.
You're our guy. Or was he like, I'm just going to keep fighting until everyone in here says to me personally that they love me?

It's a good way to get the uh you know get the the graces of your teammates is by going out and fighting um especially when you're a young player trying to make a name for yourself but i don't i don't think he needs to do it and you'll see during playoffs like he won't be be doing it as much. He'll be playing.
And he's a scary guy to play against.

Like he's six, seven, flies around.

So I think he's more effective getting in on the four checks,

scaring D-men, you know, making plays when he can.

But at the end of the day, the fighting stuff in playoffs is not going to be,

is going to be more organic.

Yeah. How do you usually initiate a fight? Is it, you want to go? Uh, yeah, you want one.
A lot of guys say you want one. Yeah.
You want a shot at the belt. That's what I used to say.
How many fights did you log? Not many, maybe eight, seven, eight and 16 years. Is there a good way to turn down a fight or do you just skate away like can you say uh not right now i can't do it right i'm busy i used to always say either my hand my hand hurts or um or coach won't let me coach show me no uh okay uh other series in in the east it hasn't been finished do you want.
I know that we have game six tonight. We're taping this in the afternoon.
Is there any way the Leafs can win this and take it to seven and then possibly steal this? Because it felt like they were dead, especially with Austin Matthews out. They're yelling at each other on the bench.
Is there any chance the Leafs can somehow get this to seven and maybe win? I don't know. A lot of it, it has a little bit of a feeling of last year when the Bruins lost to the Panthers with missing a couple goals.
Marshawn missed last year. I think Coyle missed one this year.
So it has a little bit of that same feeling. But I think Toronto played their best game last game.
And I thought the Bruins were not very good at all. It was a sloppy game.
It looked like the ice that the parquet was still down. Like pucks were bouncing everywhere.
So I don't think they can pull this one off. I think the Bruins have the leadership, the veteran presence in that locker room that they'll be able to win one of two.

But if they lose tonight, man, it's going to get a little testy in the waters in Boston.

Do you think maybe Ryan Whitney turned the series around with the Photoshop

that he personally created and put out there online and the Leafs saw that

and they're like, fuck this, we're going to go out there and win?

Oh, I didn't even see that.

Oh, you didn't see the Photoshop. Why don't you, Big Cat, why don't you see it? Why don't you send Yann so he knows what not to share online.
It would be great if Yann was the one who created it. He's just like Kaiser Soze.
He's like, I don't even have a computer. He's masterminding all these AI images.
Yeah, I i wouldn't put it past you um out west so the dallas uh golden knights series everyone said this is going to be a war you saw the golden knights win the first two games like oh shit maybe the golden knights run away with this now we're back to war and it's three two dallas they won three in a row uh that same kind of question with the leafs like i know the golden knights can. They just won a cup.
But do you see them being able to force this to a game seven?

And what happened in the last three games that the Golden Knights went from a 2-0,

winning two on the road, to now fighting for their life?

Yeah, it's a good question.

And I had Dallas going to the finals last year.

I think I might even have them going to the finals this year because they got Ottinger, who is a top three goalie in the league. They got young studs.
They got older guys that have been around forever that have done a lot of damage in this league. So I think that their team, the way that they're made up is a tough team to beat.
But Vegas, I don't know if it's you know, everyone complains about, you know, the guys being on LTIR and not playing the last half of the season to stay under the cap. But to me, it looks like it's hurting them a little bit this year.
I think, you know, Stone and Hurdle, I don't think they look, you know, like themselves as dominant as they are when they're 100 percent healthy. You know, they could be still hurt, but it's one of those things when you go on a run like a run like last year, you're, you're winning games, you're beating people up.
You know, they play a very physical, physical game. So it could be one of those things where they're just tired.
They're, you know, kind of need the rest, but you know, it's also they're running into a good team first. And I know that they were the eight seed, but it's, you know, playing Dallas first round is never fun.
And, uh, this has probably been the best series I think of, it could be a Western conference final matchup if, if, um, you know, Vegas, you know, had, had their weapons all year, I think they would have finished a little bit higher, but, um, yeah, I think Dallas, I think this is their year to pull this one off and, and, uh, and beat Vegas. What about Edmonton? I know it's hard to say how good they are right now because they beat the Kings.
It feels like they do that every single season. If I was a Kings fan, I would despise all of Canada.
But they advanced pretty easily. Is it three years in a row? I think they lost in the first round.
I think they lost to L.A. three years ago.
Oh, did they? They lost three years ago. But yeah, it feels like...
Last year, I know they play. I don't know.
Yeah, so Edmonton advances. Do you think that this would be the year? Because we were all over it last year with Connor McDavid.
We're like, this could be the year that he gets it done. Because we won't acknowledge his greatness until he gets a ring.
Facts. That's something that is very important to us's very important to us on this show.
So until then, he's not a winner. Would this be – it feels like this is a tougher West with Colorado and then whoever comes out of that Vegas-Dallas series.
Yeah, I think that they have the easiest, you know, matchups to get to the Western Conference Finals. You know, obviously with playing L.A., who've had their number the last couple of years, like you said, and then they're going to get the winner of Vancouver, Nashville.
And I think that they'll work either one of those teams. But I don't think it's their year.
And you hate to say it just because, you know, what McDavid and Dreisaitl and Hyman have done this year and what they do for the league. But I just think those other teams are a little bit more deep, better goaltending, better defensively.
But I do like how Edmonton is bulked up on the back end, bringing in big guys. I think you see in playoffs a lot of the teams that have the big, strong, heavy D, they're the teams that are usually winning it or going deep, but I just don't see it this year for them.
Hopefully one day McDavid gets one, but I think the West is too stacked. At the end of the day, I think the East is going to win it this year.
Has the league gone back to bigger players? Because I know it switched a little bit in the Blackhawks run. They had big players, but there were some teams with a lot more skill and speed.
Do you see it going back towards you need the bulky guys and just kind of hammer teams? I think in playoffs you have to, but the way that the game is, you have to be mobile. You can't just be a big...
When I started in the league, it was 6'4", 6'5", D-men who just... You couldn't get near the front of the net.
That couldn't skate as well as the guys can now. So I think you've got to have a combination of big guys that can move the puck decently and can clear the front of the net.
But yeah, it's definitely – I think during the regular season,

you see the smaller guys, the more finesse guys,

they'll shine a little bit more.

But when it comes down time for playoffs,

it's usually the teams with the big heavy D that are winning games.

Yeah.

What do we think about what's going on with the whole Arizona-Utah thing?

So the players were told at the end of the season,

I have to imagine that some of them knew that this was a very good possibility that was going to happen. But they're moving to Utah.
They don't have a name yet. Is there anything that you've heard in terms of what they're going to be called? I've heard a few things.
I like the Yetis, but I don't know. It doesn't really matter to me.
But I think it's a good thing. Obviously, you hate to see, especially, you know, Phoenix is where I started my career.
You know, loved it there, loved my time there. But I think it's just time for them to move on and then hopefully get in the right owner and get a team back there because, you know, it's one of those cities that I think needs to have hockey.
Like, if you look at, you know, Austin Matthews, a guy from Arizona, know if he didn't have that you know it's one of those cities that I think needs to have hockey like if you look at you know Austin Matthews a guy from Arizona if he didn't have the you know the Coyotes there and a guy like Shane Doan to look up to he would have never played hockey and I think he's came out and said that so I think you got to have a team there my guess is they're going to get the right ownership group to come in build a stadium stadium near where the highly dense population is in Scottsdale, Tempe, North Scottsdale. Get the right owners in, get the right guys to run that team, and I think it would flourish.
I got a name for you that should be helping out to run that team. Commodore.
That dude's awesome. Mike Commodore? Yeah.
That guy is a fucking maniac. maniac yeah i love him i don't know him that well but he is a funny man yeah i mean it's just hockey guys are always every hockey guy's funny i don't understand what you guys do yeah but the the utah yetis i think that's that's a winner of a name yeah i i uh yans i went to i went back to madison to do they have like an end of the year sports award.
So I was the MC and it was like a thousand athletes in the whole auditorium. And of course, the entire hockey team was in the front row.
I think they had been camping out for like a week. And I was just like, now I feel at home.
Like, cause I just know those guys. They're funny and they're going to, they actually listen to Barstool and pardon my take so it's something about hockey guys yeah they're the best and uh especially college kids though you know obviously the audience that you guys have and what you know all the enjoyment you guys bring to everyone it's they must have loved it and i can only imagine being a young kid listening to you up there and were they were they giving you shit or anything yeah they were giving me shit and then they they all came up and asked for a picture after and they're giving me shit about my uh i was wearing a shirt without uh collar it was i don't know what someone sent it to me it's fashion choice that i probably shouldn't have been doing you have a stain on there no it looked like i look like a priest oh nice um and then they were they're giving me shit because i wasn't going to go to the bar with them um you didn't go out with them? Dude, I got to work.
We did do PMT. You sound like Biz.
Yeah, Biz is like that. Yeah, but Biz, when he says I got to work, he just goes and takes a nap.
Yeah. I actually had to work.
We had to do PMT after all the playoff games. I would have loved to go out.
You tell me Biz doesn't go out anymore? He goes out. Yeah.
I actually had a fun night with him the other, the other night. He is out of his mind.
That guy. What happened? Do you any cameos? No.
Does he, is he on cameo? Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
You don't know about the, there's a great one. You don't know about the famous cameo.
I'll send it to you. Oh yes.
No, I think he got taken down. It might be gone.
It's too hot for's too hot for the internet yeah it was too hot for the internet it wasn't him it was the guy in the background we have it max somebody's got it all right i'll get i'll get we'll find it we'll send it to you tell us what like an average night out on the town with biz is like well the night he came out with me it was me uh my wife three of our and their wives. And he had some girl who was going to come to dinner with us, like just some girl he's never met.
Then he was like, all right, I'm going to go meet her. He shows up.
She's with her boyfriend. He's like, hey, what's going on here? Like, am I interrupting anything? And the guy was like, yes, my girl.
And then he went to the bathroom and then the girl was like, no, he's not my boyfriend. So his mind was in a pretzel.
So it was fun to pick him up the next day, go to lunch and him tell me that story. Oh, my God.
Only biz. Only biz.
I got my bull coming over. He's a former ice hockey player.
You love him. Give me the three best goalies in the playoffs right now.
I think you got to put Bobrovsky at one. Yeah.
Ottinger probably at two. Knights.
And then I'll go Schusterck in three. Okay.
Yeah. So is it a big difference between the three? Like is one just playing at such a different level or all three of those guys could easily win the cup i think bob's playing at a different level i think you know that that save that he made uh i think it was game two um where he just reached back made the save i think like every time i see it i just think that that's the start of the dvd um

you know when you win when you win the championship i i just think you think back to all the stanley cup winners there's always like that one save where a guy makes and it's you know just cements his legacy as an all-time great and bob's one of those guys he's he's a competitor he's an amazing goalie and um you know

easy guy to root for yeah so who do you have in the Stanley Cup final I got Florida and Colorado oh yeah because Colorado gets like you know they win the cup and then last year it felt like it's hard to repeat

and so many miles on their legs

and now I'm watching them. I'm like, Oh yeah, this team was really dominant two years ago.
Like what? And not a lot has changed. They, they, they made quick work of the first round and they play such a fun style of hockey.
It feels like maybe it's just personal. Like people have kind of like slept on Colorado a little bit yeah i think they have for sure and i think it's probably because they don't have that you know household name goaltender if they did then i think everyone would have them as their favorite but you just love to like nathan mckinnon every shift he's doing something that is just special and you know getting to know you know hearing more about him the way he is in the locker room he trains with Crosby all summer like you just know he's demanding a lot out of his team in between every period after every game he's holding guys accountable um you know probably the best you know I don't know if he's a vocal leader but the way that he plays probably the best leader in game right now, just giving 100% effort.
He skates like it's his last shift, every single shift. It's wild to me.
He does it for 82 games and then in the playoffs. Most guys, it's a lot to do all year.
He brings it. He's worth the price of admission.
Obviously, he's won his cup, but I think it's one of those things. he wants more.
He's not satisfied. Yeah, so it sounds like you have the Panthers over the Avalanche in the finals, because you said you thought the East was going to win it this year, right? Yeah, I think it's the Panthers' year.
I just, they're a fun team to watch. They play so hard.
Their big guys are playing great. Barkov had an amazing closing game against Tampa.
And, you know, Tampa was, you know, the kryptonite for a long time, you know, those guys. And I think you see the changing of the guard a little bit, you know, a little 400 miles south.
I think now it's like the Panthers are kind of running east a little bit the last two years anyways. So it's, it's fun to see what, what they've been able to do for hockey down here and, and, you know, getting people interested and, you know, just every, everywhere I go now, it's just, people are talking about the team and, and you know, it's just fun to have it around.
And, you know, especially in a, in a market like this, where it's not, you know, a cold city where people grew up playing hockey. It's one of those things.
It's came organically with, you know, how well the team's been playing. Do you call them the peas? Because we call them the peas, but that's only because Brooks calls them the peas.
I do not call them the peas, no. They're not the peas? The thurs? What do you call them? The cats.
The cats. Oh, yeah, that's good.
Oh, I like that i this may be outdated because we're going to tape the beginning of the show after uh the playoff games tonight but do you think hank's being a pussy not uh being cocky hank i i do kind of hate hate to pile on hank because he's my guy you know mass guy but um i think i think you need to you need to act a little more cocky hank like it's in you it's in you to fucking give it to the people you know i and i think a little bit that has hurt him is the patriots and the whole uh lighthouse things but he hasn't recovered from the lighthouse he has not been am i wrong he hasn't been the same since the lighthouse it's true you could all you could track it all back to the lighthouse yeah it's where it's where his cockiness just kind of fell out of it might be he's in the patriots in general it's hard to be cocky no but the lighthouse mostly yes that's fair he's more into golf right now that kind of that's a chill sport like he's true he's banging balls's banging balls and just rooting for his teams like a gentleman. But, yeah, I'd like to see the cocky Hank, especially with the Celtics.
Just fucking bring it out, Hank. Yeah, this is why we need the Sixers to play against the Celtics because Hank would have no choice.
He would not be able to get himself. He would naturally revert back to, like, fuck you, Philly, the sixers fucking stink and so does max yeah so we're gonna i mean what do you have do you have anything to say to him before he goes to ward night he's he's got a little bounce to his step you know winning i don't think he thought he was gonna win game five and now he's got a little bounce to his step where he's like this might be we might be back this might actually work he's lifting.
He's lifting this morning. Yeah.
He was what? He's lifting. He's, he's getting back in shape.
Third time this week for the record. Hell yeah, Matt.
Yeah. Matt, Matt, you want, you want action on the game tonight? No, they're going to lose.
What? Come on. He's going to be after.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. They're going to lose.
He's doing a bit. All right.
Well, yeah, I I got one last question. It's the Roback question.
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How's the golf game right now? Are you in peak? Do you golf all summer in Florida? Because that's got to be miserable weather. No, I go up to Nantucket in the summer.
I'm not down here. I get out of.
Yeah, it's way too hot. But, yeah, I play a decent amount in the summertime.
Not as much as during the winter because I usually just play when the kids are in school. How's the game going? My game's probably the best it's ever been.
I'm playing well, steady, right around like 77, 78, pretty much every time. Oh, that's pretty good.
What did you think about tiger's brand's rollout yesterday did you like it his what the rollout of his brand tigers knew the the logo and all that shit that everyone was pissed off about yeah uh wit said it looked like um what's that it's like a chain fish store like a fish restaurant like fish bones or something yeah yeah on fish grill yeah bone fish grill he said it looked like that which i was dying laughing at yeah um yeah i don't know i don't love it but i don't know yeah robeck's way better how long i brought it how long did how long does it take you to get news because you're not online like how when did you find out oj died did you find out when when we said it on the podcast oj you're running back no actually my group chat with uh my buddies back home is probably where i get all my news that's scary yeah and i'm one of those guys like i don't look stuff up like i like to old school, like ask people. Yeah.
Things up. So I like to ask people.
So people, if I ask a question, someone could lie to me and I just believe it. Oh shit.
We might have to start lying to Yans. Yeah.
We'll have to implant some news into you next time you're on the show. Yeah.
That's fine. Yeah.
Yeah. All right.
Well, Yans, we'll have you back on maybe cup final. We also got to get you up here to play some golf.
I know. We got to do a golf video.
Yeah. I told Hank, you guys got to play Butler National.
It's my favorite course in Chicago, but it's an amazing track. Yeah.
Then I looked it up and it was like one of the most private clubs. You know, you got to know someone.
Well, Yans can get us in there. Yeah.
We know Yans. He'll get us in.

As long as you're cocky

about the Bruins and the Celtics,

I got you.

There it is.

Alright, Yans.

Thanks so much, man.

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I worked out this morning and haven't showered yet, so I'm still... I had to throw the hat on.
You look strong. I've been working out.
I've been grinding. Your legs look strong.
Like, they've got some bounce in them. Yeah.
Your whole body looks strong. Turning into an athlete.
Did you say this is gaslighting? No. Oh, okay.
You guys are being honest, like you always are. Yeah.
Actually, we were gaslighting. Damn.
Yeah. You look strong.
You're going to dunk in no time. Yeah.
And Hank, he is so strong. If I were Hank, I'd probably even quit training because he's already so strong.
Probably doesn't need to work out anymore. Have we settled on the, are we going to do that to top the show? Yeah.
We already did. Got it.
People already listened to it. How do you think it went? Well, you guys probably folded and listened to what everyone said.
Actually, I won't spoil it. What do you mean listen? I won't spoil my hand.
Listen to what everyone said. Let's just do it right now.
Let's do it right now. No, no, no, because it's going to be at the top of the show.
We already talked about it. What did everyone say? I'm not going to give away my hand.
Okay. Magician never reveals the secrets.
But speaking of comments, and usually we're pretty elusive to comments. Don't let them get to me.
But I went on our YouTube the other day, and the top comment just said, Hank feels like he hasn't wanted to do the show in three years. Oh.
And that hurt my feelings. That's not true.
Yeah, you can't. It's been five.
You can't let the comments get to you. Because's always someone who's going to say something mean.
There could be 100 comments. One could be mean.
99 could be good. The only one you're going to actually read is the one, and then it will ruin your day.
Well, it's usually like if it's in my own personal Twitter, Instagram, whatever, I'm used to just not filtering them out. It's when you catch a ricochet.
Yeah. You're not expecting.
You're not expecting. It's true.
You're like're like oh let's see what people say about the episode it's like the number one comment just like hank looks like he hates doing the show and i was like what the fuck no hey that was hank if you've noticed hank he has not been cocky hank and he's been having like you can see it on his face he's not being honest with us and not being honest with you the listener by not fully embracing his confidence and his cockiness. Well, it's three years.
We're talking three years. Wait, wait.
The defense mechanism is to just go, hmm. But hold on.
I blame not having a desk over here. Oh.
Not knowing what to do with ourselves. We'll get you a desk.
Let's unpack this because remember, we also had a month where you had to do your stand-up special. So now we're down to two years, 11 months that you haven't wanted to do the show.
And then the whole Lighthouse thing. The Lighthouse thing? That affected him from September through December.
Yeah, you can't. I have never felt like you don't want to do the show except for that time you asked us to not do the show anymore.
That was more than three years ago. That was more than three years ago.
Actually, that was exactly three years ago when he said, I don't want to do the show anymore. I also had to do a vlog for an ad where I said in the video that Hank does nothing.
Oh. Hank does a lot.
To be fair to Hank. That was for the bit.
The full story behind Hank not wanting to do the show wasn't because he didn't like doing the show. It was because he wanted- It was for the show.
It was because he wanted to take on bigger responsibilities across the board. I've never- And you didn't know if you'd have time to do the show.
Yeah. I just didn listening to my voice yeah really being honest when you had to edit it yourself i've never felt like you didn't want to do the show um yeah you can't you can't let the comments get that wasn't that was getting close to a butt no i i've never really like there's i mean there's listen here's real talk we've been doing the show for a fucking long ass time now, eight years.
If you've been listening for eight years, there has been times when the show has been like humming. There's been times when it's dipped.
There's, it just goes in waves. Like that's just what it is.
Like what other podcasts, there's not many podcasts with this many people who've been doing it for this long. Like there's podcasts that have one person who does the show and they have guests like you know what i mean like that's a different dynamic so i i've never felt like oh man hank hates us or doesn't want to be here no i've definitely i've thought that hank hates us also i feel like we're in a great we've been we've been humming for a while now yeah like i thought i feel like i love coming to work every day like there's i love doing the show if if we're a stock market, there's been times when it's like, oh, okay, yeah, dips a little bit.

I feel like we've been rising for a while and putting out great shows.

So I don't know.

And Hank, I want you to know you're appreciated.

Thanks.

But also, I appreciate the comment section.

Of course.

You have to.

I love every single internet comment out there.

God bless you guys.

I also, I think that we as human beings just weren't ready for the internet as it exists today like having people who are passionate about the show comment on every single like minutiae and try to look into every little like what do you mean by that what do these guys not we weren't built for that type of feedback um so you got to just kind of ignore it like no human being's brain can handle that amount of feedback constantly coming at you. I've said that for years, that the weird part about when the show took off and got big is that the human brain, it was not evolved for millions of people to have an opinion about you.
That's just not something that anyone has ever had to deal with until the last maybe 300, 400 years on four hundred years on Earth. So, yeah, don't let it get you down, Hank.
No, not let it get me down. I just, you know, I gotta, I gotta, I don't know, pick it up somehow.
I love you like a brother. Buy back in.
You're gonna dunk on those comedians. Yes, family.
You guys are. I mean, we're gonna get to a point, Hank, where, how old are you, 30? 30.
So we still got a few years to go, but, like like there will be a point in the next six seven years it's like i've known you for half your life i said that the other day to someone and they kind of laughed at me but i i do believe it like 10 to you don't remember zero to 10 or zero and you're and you're and you're in no control like you don't have any thoughts of your own you're not doing what you want to do 10 to 20 you know you have what you like you have your friends you kind of make decisions and obviously like you're in no control. You don't have any thoughts of your own.
You're not doing what you want to do. 10 to 20, you have what you like.

You have your friends.

You kind of make decisions.

And obviously, you're still not in full control, but you're in more control of your life and interests.

So I have that.

And then 20 to 30, it's just been with you and Barclay.

Yeah.

So it feels like half my life.

Yeah.

Right.

And so that's why also when people try to not mentally get – they try to – what's the word i'm looking for bft help me manipulate no no no they try to trick you what are you no they try to think of what you're thinking pinpoint that's what i'm trying to do right now no fuck god damn it tell it teleport i don't know what word you're looking for no it's bad so you're trying So you're trying to think of a word. I'm trying to think of that.
Illuminate. Someone tries to be like, this is what this person is thinking without knowing them.
Fuck. Placate.
No. No.
Inception. No.
God damn it. This is going to be bad.
I'm not even going to try. Trying to put yourself in somebody else's shoes? Yeah, but not really.
You're trying to, oh man, this is bad. I don't even know how you looked that up.
Yeah, I don't know either. This is bad.
Someone help me. Someone get me.
Give me a lifeline. Yeah, it's Uzbekistan.
This is Uzbekistan. God damn it.
Say the definition again. Like when I, if I'm watching someone else's podcast, I'm like, oh, this person feels this way, but we don't have any idea how they actually feel.

We're trying to basically put like thoughts into their head.

Yeah.

Empathy.

No.

I typed in one. It's not a word.

You know how someone feels.

Empathy is the first thing that came off.

But you're projecting your own thoughts into their head.

Oh, yeah.

Whatever.

Either way.

The point is, someone will tell me what is rattling around in the little piece of brain that I have that works.

Anyway.

Allocate.

People are going to try to be like, Hank's feeling this way from a little moment that they watch

when they don't realize that we have a ton of moments that they're not watching,

that we are working together, friends, these things constantly communicating so and i i'm not saying the person's wrong because that's all they get but if they saw the full picture they would never think what they're thinking as that hank doesn't want to do the show yeah that's that was a the least eloquent way i could ever put something it makes sense though yeah but now i'm trying now I'm trying to think of that word, too. I basically just did, like, four fullback dives to get a first down.
Just ugly as fuck. Just running it right up the middle.
And we got there. I think we moved the chains.
Word about what somebody is anticipating. It's something specific.
Someone's going to tell me, and they're like, I i'm gonna feel like the dumbest person ever yeah she's not i mean i had a moment earlier this week where i i thought out loud i thought out loud that we the floors weren't invented till 1850 floors floors what do you mean like hardwood floors that's that's's it. There's nothing more to say about that.

Is it anticipate what somebody else is saying?

Project?

Oral sensory seeking.

We got to move on.

We got to move on.

You're projecting.

Yeah, maybe projecting.

Projecting what you're thinking.

Yeah, maybe projecting.

I don't know.

All right, you're Fyre Fest, PFT.

Yeah, we love you, Hank.

I love you, Hank.

My Fyre Fest.

Look at me in the eye.

Love you guys.

Thanks, Hank.

I fucking love you.

I love you, too.

I'd fucking die for you.

I'd die for you, too?

Thank you. I love you, too.
I'd fucking die for you. I'd die for you, too.
Maybe I wouldn't die for you. I don't know if I'd die for you.
I would take like a bullet to the arm for you. If someone else wanted to die for you guys instead of me, I'd be down to let them.
Fasoli. But if it was, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'd die for you, Hank. I'd die for all of you guys.
Thanks, Jake. Really? Yep.
Fuck. You know what? I'd fucking die for you guys.
I'd just die for Hank. Oh, not us, Max? Yeah.
Memes, who would you die for? I'd kill for you guys. Oh! Respect.
That's what I'm talking about, memes. It's my dog.
Yeah. All right, so we got a couple people.
Darren Revell. Who else we got?

Well, I was going to say OJ, but nature took care of that.

Yeah.

Maybe it was memes.

Yeah.

Thanks, memes.

Thank you, memes.

Hat tip memes.

All right.

Your Firefest BFT.

My Firefest is, again, Blake related because I just found out yesterday.

He's had his shoulder problems, right?

And I'm like, what's going on with this dog?

He can't walk.

He's limping around. We gave him rest.
He's just been chilling. Still limping around.
Took him in yesterday for a CT scan. Cat scan, which is ironic because he's a dog.
But they scanned him. And his shoulder's fine.
But both of his elbows are messed up. So he's getting double elbow surgery.
What? Next Thursday. Tommy John? He's getting double Tommy John.
Holy shit. Next Thursday.
Jeff Passan's got it right about him. Jeff Passan needs to – is it overuse? Is it the uniforms? What is it? Was he not trained as a young dog to play other sports besides jumping? So what does double elbow surgery look like? So I thought about that.
I was like, is he going to have casts on each arm where he's going to be in a front wheelchair? Yeah. So apparently it it's scope so they say he's going to walk out of the hospital that day but they're gonna clean something up but then it's just yeah it's a cleanup sir like mark prior had seven of those he turned out fine yeah so blake is going to be on not necessarily bed rest but just like walking around rest no running rest for almost the whole summer but then he should be good after that but yeah he's going to come home from the hospital with two big like soft casts on each arm double elbow surgery is a crazy thing to go under there's some somebody in a tv show i feel like broke both their arms are you thinking of ricky bobby yeah ricky bobby yeah yeah that was both his legs his legs yeah and they weren't actually broken yeah but that's dog's arms are kind of legs too yeah it's like the old where would dog wear pants yeah yeah i would assume that it would be around the neck right because they're all they're all legs yeah they're all legs all four legs they have four legs they don't have that's good that's good that you're not doing this surgery before your kentucky derby party that would have sucked for blake it's really good yeah blake's going this is last hurrah last hurrah.
Yeah. He's going to jam out.
It's his bachelor party.

Yeah.

So anything that you need your dog to do, two legs, let me know what I should do with Blake in his last week on his original legs.

That's crazy.

Double elbow.

Double elbow surgery at the same time, which is good because if it was one elbow and then

another elbow like six months later, he'd be like, fuck this.

I don't want to go through rehab again.

I already know this.

I'm not doing it.

That's the other thing.

I got to take him. I got to put him on like underwater treadmills and get him rehabbed.
That rocks. Yeah.
He's going to, fuck this. I don't want to go through rehab again.
I already know this. I'm not doing it.
That's the other thing. I got to put him on underwater treadmills and get him rehabbed.

That rocks him.

Yeah, he's going to have a blast.

You got to get a GoPro to get video of it.

Yeah, I should.

Yeah.

All right.

My FireFest is, I've talked to Hank and PFT about this, and it's not a FireFest.

It's a, I have a funny content idea that's not funny at all, FireFest.

My daughter's class has lice, lice outbreak.

She does not.

We've checked every single day.

But it's crazy how fast the lice just goes around like a preschool.

It was like boom, boom.

Oh, it's in this classroom.

Oh, no, it's in this.

Oh, it's literally everywhere.

Either way, don't have lice in my house. Thank God.
Knock on wood. Checked every day.
No lice. But when I was telling PFT and Hank, it did dawn on me that it would be very funny if we had a lice outbreak here at Barstool Chicago.
So funny how? I don't know. I haven't.
That's right. I have the idea.
I have the idea. I don't know where, how it gets to make money and have everyone laugh.
but the idea. I have the idea.
I don't know how it gets to make money and have everyone laugh. But the idea is get a lice outbreak in the office.
So I swear to God I forgot about this conversation that we had a couple days ago. There's a nugget of a good idea in there somewhere.
We've got to figure out how to present it. I know.
I think that's what you want to do, right? That's why you wanted to leave part of my take for good three years ago this is it this is a race we got to talk out the idea it's a great idea as head of content you have to figure us how you have to help us figure out how to turn this little nugget into a great package presentation that's fully sponsored just think of that thumbnail that thumbnail yeah we all got like like lice invades barstool sports it's so funny with like nicky smokes hair and like a scared what happens if you get bad lice what actually happens if there's a shampoo for it but like worst case scenario say you didn't know you had lice no you know untreated lice you know because you scratch it's itchy what i was gonna say is i i completely forgot about this conversation with you i I woke up this morning, swear to God, my head was super itchy. Uh-oh.
And I spent all morning just scratching my head, took a shower, shampooed, didn't look for any lice or anything. But now I'm worried because I had an abnormally itchy head this morning.
Uh-oh. You might have lice.
Do you want to look? No, I don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, go. You look.
No, you look. No, you look.

I said you look close. Do you need like a magnifying glass?

I said it's-

Let's figure it out.

All right, fine.

I swear to God, my head was super itchy this morning.

I'm not joking.

All right, big cat's looking through.

The matching hoodies.

This is a nice visual.

We're like a couple monkeys picking bugs off each other.

No, I think- Am I clean? No, you have dandruff. I have dandruff? Yeah, you need- They're the same color.
Yeah, no, you have dandruff. I have dandruff? You need the dandruff shampoo.
I have dandruff? I use dandruff shampoo. I've never had dandruff.
Yeah. Yeah, you just have dandruff.
You just have some dry skin. No, I've got Eric-if.
Yeah. Dandruff is perfectly fine normal Yeah just use some Use some

Sell some blue well that's a load off

My back because for about 30 seconds there I thought

No yeah you don't I was putting the pieces together

I didn't see any bugs it's just some dandruff

So yeah back to lice

How do we do it I think

Maybe we need to get a sandbox

And make everyone bring

Backpacks every day because that's Lice go they can survive in sand. That's how it happens a lot with like, you know, kindergarten and all that stuff.
Yeah. So maybe that's what we do.
And then I'll get the lice. In a jar? No, I'll put them in my head.
Your head. And then I'll be patient zero and I'll just pass it around and we'll be like yeah think about the thumbnail.
It's gotta happen when

COVID happens. It's kind of like a

maybe like a Mr. Beast type video like the last person

to not get lice wins. Oh it's a contest

yeah. Lice survivor.

I wonder if we could dye the lice so we could see

him like more clearly.

Dayglo? Yeah. UV just

replace all the lights with UV lights.

Someone figure out how to get

from office gets lice to make money funny.

Yeah.

Let us know.

Sound off in the comments.

What, Max?

Max has something.

No, this is just so random that I don't.

You brought up UV lights.

Did you see that there's a college baseball team that's just doing a complete UV baseball game with a black light?

No. And, like, glow-in-the in the dark uniforms and balls.
Savannah Bananas? No. I'll say it.
Black lights suck. Yeah.
Okay. Because I don't come in my pants, but I always, when I see a black light, I'm like, did I come in my pants? Oh yeah.
And like a hotel room? Yeah. No.
Or like a bowling alley. I just go to a bowl, a black light bowling alley.
And you're alley and you're like, I don't remember ever coming in my pants, but who put this cum on my pants?

I think from time to time, blacklights matter to me.

Blacklights matter.

Oh, this is actually awesome.

Yeah, it is.

That does look cool.

This is very cool.

But do you guys not have the same fear whenever you go to like a blacklight bowling alley? You know that there's not a problem.

You're a spill guy.

There could be a problem.

Yeah, this is very cool.

We'll see you next time. like a blacklight bowling alley, you know that there's not a problem.
You're a spill guy. There could be a problem.
Yeah. This is very cool.
We should do a blacklight, pardon my take. Yeah.
There's probably come in this studio or something. You think anyone's fucked in the studio? No.
I have not. I have not.
Pug? I have not. I have not.
I have not. Pug is not here to answer.
Memes? A lot of people have been in this office. Memes.
Memes definitely has. Okay, Jake, finish us off.
Yeah, on a similar note, I've also been- So lice? Yeah, I've been itchy this week, but it's because I got freaking destroyed by mosquitoes when I was in Florida. Crushed.
You're all tripped up? I've got the marks to show it show it. It was really bad.
No bug spray? After the first day. Learned your lesson.
Too late. Jake, are you one of those guys who's like, bugs for some reason like me more than everyone? Yes.
My blood. Everyone's like, you have sweet blood.
Yeah. Remember that time we went to, oh, sorry, disc golf? I know that.
No, frisbee golf. Fuck that.
We say whatever we want on this. Remember when we went got billy into a vegetarian yeah billy got alpha gal yeah it was so bad yeah similar to that bugs yeah the the um that sucks you missed the first day like the first day with the bug spray because i'll be back next week and i'll be prepared i like a good bug bite how many did you did you kill jake what what.
What was that, Max? That's just a horrible take. Yeah, bug bites are the worst.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I agree with you.
I don't like a lot of bug bites. No, you don't want any.
But one or two good bug bites and you can itch it? I kind of like it. Yeah, but then it starts bleeding and the scabs and the scars come.
I'd rather have three bug bites than one. That's kind of where I'm at right now.
If you have one, then that's all you're thinking about. I've got like six on each arm.
If you have one, you just assume it was a spider that bit you in the middle of your sleep. Yeah, a spider bite.
I'd like a good bug bite. Just a good old-fashioned bug bite.
Like maybe on the top of your shin. Nice little spot.
You can scratch it a little. No one's with me? I feel like you might be on an island with that one's with me.
You're going to have mosquito bites and lice and be like, what was I thinking? Yeah, but no one's with one's with me i feel like you might be on an island with mosquito bites and lice and be like what was i think that but no one's with me all right no you might be that might be a little like s&m thing where it's like a little bit of pain feels good just one sometimes feeling bad feels like watching great in a place like this yeah no i just like blood yeah one one good bug bite i don't want a lot anything more than a couple and you're just like this fucking sucks i can't believe i forgot to put on bug spray what jake's going through right now but a single bug bite on the top of your shin there's a little itch not so bad i'll give you some of my blood and maybe they'll come fine yeah we'll do a blood transfusion get some of that young blood yeah yeah we should do it we should do a black light blood transfusion with lice and then we should make all our younger employees give their blood to us this is this feels like an firefest today has just been an extended brainstorming session yeah it's been good to go uh okay lice thing i i do think that we can work with that yes thank you i because i remember when i initially said you're like that's a bad idea i'm happy that you've seen the i think you get two teams and then see which one can get fully covered in lice for a game of tag with lice liceice cross. Yeah.
Lice are so gross. Remember when Clay Travis just willing

he said his kids had lice? Oh yeah, because

he was mad at the airline for not letting him fly.

Signing with the airline there.

Only time ever. Okay.

Good show, boys.

Numbers.

8. 20.
46.

18.

What number is lice? 3. What number is lice? 99, Pug.
21. 10 to 15.
I'll go 10. 10.
10. Any questions you want to ask? What? Is there a question you'd like to ask somebody?

Oh, Pug PFT, have you ever got this?

Oh no, I was just asking Pug and Shane if they fucked in the studio

Is that what you're talking about?

Yeah

Pug, Shane, have you fucked in the studio?

No, not yet

Okay, nice

Max, have you ever gotten this?

Nope

We have to add you to the wall of fame

Good answer, buddy

See you next week. No, not yet.
Okay, nice. Max, have you ever gotten this? Nope.

We have to add you to the Wall of Fame.

Good answer, buddy.

I would like to be added to the Wall of Fame.

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